Nothing like ending a series on a happy note, eh LC?

Hang on ... Didn't S4 end on a cliff-hanger? Does this mean they'll do S5 and that's it, or that there's no S5?

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Well, that sucks bottom. I'm sure Katy's none too pleased either, since she was just saying more were in the works. Maybe some other audio company will take a chance and pick her up...



Fingers crossed for someone like Bagglegab then. Thankfully her creators can take her anywhere they like.

I'm sure there will be plenty of mirrors.

But in the meantime...
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thanks! :)

Did you buy them all? It's low sales that did for it.

Was a little late to that party but started getting the box-sets in time for season 2

FISH DOCTOR REVEALED!!!!

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Hmm......
(comment on "The Final 24 hrs")....(Earth time).

Give us joy with a glorious 8th reprise episode and then try to charge us for a dodgy (non) game intro.
...Hmm.

lol the last miniep reminded me of dead space...

up til the invasion that is

It does look rather like a game intro. I really hope that wasn't what they were going for though, that would be slightly worse than if it had been unintentional I reckon

I'm just wondering , why for telepathic super geniuses, did it seem so analogue?

yeeah... it is a bit low-tech especially when you compare it to the Time War with the Enemy, from the EDA books. Damn that was a good Time War.

Are the Sky trenches different to the transenduction barriers?

I get the feeling that the sky trenches are exactly that: trenches, in the sky.
a moronic concept, especially considering Gallifrey is supposed to be time-misphased like the Medusa Cascade, and the transduction barriers prevent anyone phasing in. They'd better explain this well, or my eyes shall narrow mightily.

After WWI the French built a 25 mile deep wall of trenches and machine gun towers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_Line) covering all of their border with Germany.

The Nazis went around it, cutting through Belgium, and took France in two days.

latest minisode
Ten said he was at the fall of arcadia and that maybe one day he'd be all right with it. Or something. This seems less interesting. Even if ten had been in it.

latest minisode
Ten said he was at the fall of arcadia and that maybe one day he'd be all right with it. Or something. This seems less interesting. Even if ten had been in it.

I take that to mean that Ten has memories of being there as the Hurt Doctor (Eight Point Five?) rather than being there himself but I guess when you're a Time Lord the word I is a bit flexible

Just as well I checked. Didn't realise AAiSAT was on TV tonight. I expected it to be on Saturday.

Not forgetting that Medic 1's first story is on BBC4 (UK) at 10:30 onwards.

Gosh getting excited. I hope LC does a huge sale (fingers crossed) & I hope we get a Google doodle that is really cool, that would make my day!

Not forgetting that Medic 1's first story is on BBC4 (UK) at 10:30 onwards.

Already have that on DVD so not all that fussed about it.

But it's different and special when you get to watch it with advertisements.

I refuse to watch a show/movie on tv with adverts if I can watch it on DVD without. Adverts spoil the flow of a show and always seem to crop up during the most important/action-packed scenes. :(

For anyone wanting to convert audio or video formats on a PC - this program I swear by. FormatFactory

Format Factory Home Page - Free media file format converter (http://www.pcfreetime.com/)

Another extra tonight

BBC - Blogs - Doctor Who - William Hartnell: The Original (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/William-Hartnell-The-Original)

I refuse to watch a show/movie on tv with adverts if I can watch it on DVD without. Adverts spoil the flow of a show and always seem to crop up during the most important/action-packed scenes. :(

Erm .... The BBC channels don't have adverts ....

I hope we get a Google doodle that is really cool, that would make my day!
If The Medic doesn't get a Google doodle, given all the random crap that does, I will feel like Google has slapped the whole thing in the face.

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Erm .... The BBC channels don't have adverts ....

BBC-A does. And boy do they make liberal use of them.

I know doodle doesn't always mean penis, but c'mon!

Already have that on DVD so not all that fussed about it.

I thought I read somewhere that it has been Restored or something. First time aired looking like this something or other

BBC-A does. And boy do they make liberal use of them.

Ah! Forgot about them.

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I know doodle doesn't always mean penis, but c'mon!

Seeing as doodle never means penis. WTF are you on about?

I thought I read somewhere that it has been Restored or something. First time aired looking like this something or other

Its a different and better print so its a lot sharper and with more detail than what has been shown before and released on video and DVD.

Ah! Forgot about them.

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Seeing as doodle never means penis. WTF are you on about?

Urban Dictionary: doodle (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doodle)

I've seen it here (http://tinyurl.com/pfldkfn)...


Aaaaaannnd yet another place with stuff for me....

Thanks, CelestialTeaBoy

Just heard that AUC won't be on eyeplayer tonight after it airs due to rights restrictions.

Urban Dictionary: doodle (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doodle)

Well you learn something new everyday. But I'm still not sure what point, if any, you were trying to make.

For anyone wanting to convert audio or video formats on a PC - this program I swear by. FormatFactory

Format Factory Home Page - Free media file format converter (http://www.pcfreetime.com/)


Annoyingly it doesn't work if you have DRM but otherwise it's a great bit of software

Just heard that AUC won't be on eyeplayer tonight after it airs due to rights restrictions.

What is AUC?

What is AUC?

An Unearthly Child

(I had to think about it, too!)

No doubt the transmitted version will be released into the wild regardless of them not iPlayering it.

I just want to say that I'm so excited about watching An Adventure in Space and Time tonight

Anniversary week has been better than expected here in the UK, there's been lots of coverage on local TV stations and the usual tea time/early evening and early morning news/chat shows

Its only just really occurred to me how much weight & expectation there is in relation to the Anniversary Special on Saturday- it really has to be a blockbuster.... I bet Moffy & everyone involved are really nervous- Good Luck to them all - I hope they succeed & delight all of us...and maybe, just maybe still deliver a surprise or two that throws us off balance

Does anyone have copies of the 50th Medic specials: Medic 2 The Unnamed Town or Medic 3 The Sharp pointy stick of fate?

I missed those 2 and now that the 11th medics story is out Amazon has jacked the price up twice what I payed for the others :(

Well you learn something new everyday. But I'm still not sure what point, if any, you were trying to make.

Imagine how silly and gross the google home page would look if it was just penises wearing Tom Baker Scarfs.

The previous poster said that this would be a good thing.

I disagreed.

Imagine how silly and gross the google home page would look if it was just penises wearing Tom Baker Scarfs.

The previous poster said that this would be a good thing.

I disagreed.

The OP said no such thing.

Gosh getting excited. I hope LC does a huge sale (fingers crossed) & I hope we get a Google doodle that is really cool, that would make my day!

What do you think a medic google doodle looks like?

Maybe a bunch of time rotors with big hairy balls going vroop, vroop?

What do you think a medic google doodle looks like?

A google doodle would be about the show, not the fevered pornographic delusions you seem to be aspiring to...I'm sure we have a few under 18's reading this thread so let's at least pretend to keep it relatively clean?

I don't have a fever.

An Unearthly Child

(I had to think about it, too!)

No doubt the transmitted version will be released into the wild regardless of them not iPlayering it.

It's got to be on a gazillion torrent sites already...

https://www.google.co.nz/

Okay, well played Google.

It's got to be on a gazillion torrent sites already...

Ah! Sorry. I was referring to the possibility that what's to be transmitted is a print that's not been released before.

I'm in tears!!! That was so good. Loved the little cameo at the end by 2 certain doctors x loved, loved , loved!!!

An Adventure ...

Even if you're not a fan, that was a superb bit of drama. Really well done, indeed.

Spotted a few 'well known' faces, but will have to watch it properly again tomorrow.



And great that they kept the tradition ... the girl playing Susan couldn't act either ...

:D

I'm in tears!!! That was so good. Loved the little cameo at the end by 2 certain doctors x loved, loved , loved!!!

I loved it too, but Gatiss's love letter to Doctor Who was almost TOO personal - it was a bit like stumbing across a weird shrine while trying to find the toilet at a party…

Hi found this if anyone is interested

Medic 11 - 0 Time by Gil Naiman in epub, just click on the Nownload Dow button

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https://www.google.co.nz/

Okay, well played Google.

Cool.

I'm in tears!!! That was so good. Loved the little cameo at the end by 2 certain doctors x loved, loved , loved!!!

I have to admit my eyes were stinging a little at the end as well, I thought it was beautifully written and acted[COLOR="Silver"]

Thank you salteran

Now that felt special.

AUC Pt#1 just finished on Four. Better and sharper eyes than mine will have to decide if it's a 'new' print or not. The credits certainly looked crisper, though.

I came looking for adventure, and all I got was spoilers.

I came looking for adventure, and all I got was spoilers.

Yep..

Apparently this is how Doomsday should have ended:

Doctor Who: How Doomsday Should Have Ended - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfK8y7KVADo)

Slim*oo has put a deluge on the Viking lagoon.

Apparently this is how Doomsday should have ended:

Doctor Who: How Doomsday Should Have Ended - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfK8y7KVADo)

How the heck have I never seen that before? Superb!

I love the How It Should Have Ended series.
This was just added a few days ago to celebrate the 50th

Apparently this is how Doomsday should have ended:

Doctor Who: How Doomsday Should Have Ended - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfK8y7KVADo)

V. funny!

Medic 11 - 0 Time by Gil Naiman in epub, just click on the Nownload Dow button

Since it was only �1.99. less than a pint of lager, I didn't have a problem actually paying for this.

It was 50p cheaper than the laughable iTunes "Last Day" video, and lasts, dependant on your reading speed, considerably longer...

Slim*oo has put a deluge on the Viking lagoon.

Never considered Vikings to be pirates before now.

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Since it was only �1.99. less than a pint of lager, I didn't have a problem actually paying for this.

It was 50p cheaper than the laughable iTunes "Last Day" video, and lasts, dependant on your reading speed, considerably longer...

But that does only leave me with a third of a pint.

Loving the line "...but probably not the one you expected."

Don't think that counts as a spoiler.

I'm sure there will be plenty of mirrors.

But in the meantime...
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Great!!!! any of the others available? Like the McGann?

Great!!!! any of the others available? Like the McGann?

I posted that one here http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-audio-drama-thread-85235/766.html#post2515375

Was the actor playing William Russell told that William Russell was an awful actor and that he should act awfully?

hmm.. did I miss poofin number 10? i think i did, somewhere.

10 isn't listed on imdb, but Moffet is supposed to have played 4. Did I blink? Oh... William Russel played a security guard. Anneke "Polly" Willis and Jean "Sarah Kingdom" marsh were party guests... Carol An Ford was there too.

I really wasn't paying attention.

Does anyone have copies of the 50th Medic specials: Medic 2 The Unnamed Town or Medic 3 The Sharp pointy stick of fate?

I missed those 2 and now that the 11th medics story is out Amazon has jacked the price up twice what I payed for the others :(

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Was the actor playing William Russell told that William Russell was an awful actor and that he should act awfully?

William Russell WASN'T an awful actor. Still ISN'T. Carole Ann Ford, however... ;P

I can't comment on this fellow playing him, as I've not seen it yet.

Was the actor playing William Russell told that William Russell was an awful actor and that he should act awfully?

I know ... didn't even look like him either ... that very minor point aside, what a brilliant love letter from a fan for the fans ... superb tribute to the show we love. Moffat has a long way to go to top this on Saturday!

Really great anniversary. I do not expect the actual 50th anniv. ep to match it.

Really great anniversary. I do not expect the actual 50th anniv. ep to match it.

Was better than I expected. I thought David Bradley and Jessica Raine were brilliant as Hartnell and Lambert but I don't think we can judge most of the other acting when most of the story seemed to centre around those two.

Gatiss did an awesome job bringing the story to life and Moffett is going to have to pull off something spectacular to not be overshadowed by last night's offering.

LC sale this weekend - 10% off with the code "50years"

10% Off Anniversary Offer - News - Big Finish (http://tinyurl.com/kx9bbpo)

Was better than I expected. I thought David Bradley and Jessica Raine were brilliant as Hartnell and Lambert but I don't think we can judge most of the other acting when most of the story seemed to centre around those two.

Gatiss did an awesome job bringing the story to life and Moffett is going to have to pull off something spectacular to not be overshadowed by last night's offering.

Totally agree. One small little touch that I *really* loved Hartnell telling Ford to not waste her money. I remember when Carole Ann Forde mentioned that story in an interview, pretty cool to see them act it out.

I enjoyed AAITAS but it did feel like the entire dialogue was stolen from interviews and used willy nilly in the place of characterisation.

Or maybe it's meant to be a cheesy nostalgia fest and I'm wrong to have expected "Mad Men at the BBC" :D

Cool retro 8-Bit Who arcade action courtesy of today's Google Doodle (http://tinyurl.com/q9z5ntm)...

I enjoyed AAITAS but it did feel like the entire dialogue was stolen from interviews and used willy nilly in the place of characterisation.

Or maybe it's meant to be a cheesy nostalgia fest and I'm wrong to have expected "Mad Men at the BBC" :D

At this point, the long-time fans have heard pretty much everything that is possible for us to know about the time in which the show originated, so, of course it will seem like there is a lot of dialogue we have already heard.

One thing that I thought was handled very well was the total disregard for women in authority roles. They even TOUCHED on the racism present as well.

One thing that I thought was handled very well was the total disregard for women in authority roles. They even TOUCHED on the racism present as well.

Even a nod to homophobia, too.

As an aside, but inspired by this, all the channels really must stop this damn thing of talking over the end of programmes. I was feeling just a tad emotional by the ending and then ... BAM!! ... back to earth with a crunch as miss-what-am-I-doing-in-the-office-so-late continuity crashed her bunged up nose over the music. Really broke the moment.

At this point, the long-time fans have heard pretty much everything that is possible for us to know about the time in which the show originated, so, of course it will seem like there is a lot of dialogue we have already heard.

One thing that I thought was handled very well was the total disregard for women in authority roles. They even TOUCHED on the racism present as well.

I think you are right there. There was never going to be any shocking plot twists for fans like us.

Well apart from Hartnell's amazing precog abilities as displayed near the end when he was about to do the regen scene :P

LC sale this weekend - 10% off with the code "50years"

10% Off Anniversary Offer - News - Big Finish (http://tinyurl.com/kx9bbpo)

Poor show for me really : 10% off everything EXCEPT - subs, pre-orders & Destiny of the medic range. Everything that i want to get is in those categories.

Thank You my dear hellybelly! You are a peach! :D

also Thank You to solteran for the 11th!

Cool retro 8-Bit Who arcade action courtesy of today's Google Doodle (http://tinyurl.com/q9z5ntm)...



Has anyone figured out if there's a way to use the sonic screwdriver in the game? It seems a little too prominent not to serve some purpose in the game.

Has anyone figured out if there's a way to use the sonic screwdriver in the game? It seems a little too prominent not to serve some purpose in the game.
You use it when you click the switches.

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Well apart from Hartnell's amazing precog abilities as displayed near the end when he was about to do the regen scene :P

No, I clearly remember Wilkes mentioning he had that ability.

AAiSaT was quite something. Much bigger emotion than I expected. Not a dry eye in the house, here.

Has anyone figured out if there's a way to use the sonic screwdriver in the game? It seems a little too prominent not to serve some purpose in the game.You use it when you click the switches.

I see. Guess I grew up with Doctors who didn't need a sonic just to operate a switch.

I see. Guess I grew up with Doctors who didn't need a sonic just to operate a switch.

Well, It is just a decoration. No doubt whoever made the doodles art assets is a fan of the modern show - thus even the regens that didn't have one do in the game.

I am simply giving you an imaginary mechanic based on your desire to have one :)

Life, Doctor Who & Combom: Peter Davison confirms some involvement in the 50th anniversary (http://www.combom.co.uk/2013/11/peter-davison-confirms-some-involvement.html)

the google doodle medic game has made me very happy - when I was five years old watching creature from the pit (my earliest medic memory) - I probably wanted to wish for one day, a wife of mine saying 'i just wanted to get back to the tardis' in utter frustration!!

Watching Feb of Wear on on demand with MirginVedia. It's good of Aunte to put this one on when it hasn't been released on DVD yet.

Thank You my dear hellybelly! You are a peach! :D/

Any resemblance to fruit is entirely coincidential :)
Pleasure to be of assistance.

Watching Feb of Wear on on demand with MirginVedia. It's good of Aunte to put this one on when it hasn't been released on DVD yet.
I want to see that tale sometime. I hear it's really atmospheric for the time it was made. :)

I want to see that tale sometime. I hear it's really atmospheric for the time it was made. :)
The set is VERY good for the time. Although it does sort of meander a bit. Ironically, there is still the one missing episode, but if it was totally cut out and things were reorganized, it would probably have resulted in a stronger story.

Plus that one guy totally reminds me of Elvis from Fireman Sam..

The set is VERY good for the time. Although it does sort of meander a bit. Ironically, there is still the one missing episode, but if it was totally cut out and things were reorganized, it would probably have resulted in a stronger story.

Plus that one guy totally reminds me of Elvis from Fireman Sam..

I think with a bit of CGI magic you could probably 'build' the missing episode from the footage of the other three episodes. There's not many sets used and I'm sure that a sufficiently talented CGI bod could re-work mouth movement to fit the words, or some careful edit where you see the reaction shot rather than the speaker.

The guys behind the Google doodle "Whodle":
Doctor Who Google doodle: the story behind the Whodle | Technology | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/22/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-the-story-behind-the-google-doodle)

Some interesting news breaking, obviously still just rumours at the moment but so were EOTW and WOF at first....

Doctor Who missing episodes: Seven episodes of Marco Polo series from 1964 featuring William Hartnell to be unveiled next month - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-missing-episodes-seven-2839102)

Missing episodes of Doctor Who serial Marco Polo rumoured to have been found - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/doctor-who/10468931/Missing-episodes-of-Doctor-Who-serial-Marco-Polo-rumoured-to-have-been-found.html)

'Doctor Who': BBC responds to 'Marco Polo' recovery rumours - Doctor Who News - Cult - Digital Spy (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a533296/doctor-who-bbc-responds-to-marco-polo-recovery-rumours.html)

Fingers crossed!

I recall several members of the cast saying that the Marco Polo episodes are probably better as lost episodes than found, thanks to the viewers nostalgia and imagination.

That said, I admit my desire to see it is pretty huge.

There is going to be a minority of puritans who refuse to watch it.

I'm off to bed now and I would like to wish the best programme in the world a happy birthday and to all my wonderful friends on here I hope you have a fantastic anniversary weekend. Never been so proud to be a doctor who fan!!! SO EXCITED!!!! Nite xxxx

I'm off to bed now and I would like to wish the best programme in the world a happy birthday and to all my wonderful friends on here I hope you have a fantastic anniversary weekend. Never been so proud to be a doctor who fan!!! SO EXCITED!!!! Nite xxxx


I agree. This is a good weekend for Medic fans Worldwide.
Lets raise a glass to the best show on the planet!!

Non Medic related - can you help?
I'm looking for copies of Bluewater Comics Logan's Run - Rebirth issues 2, 3 & 4 to complete my collection- can anyone help? I'll take them in any format- I know they're available for download on Amazon for Kindle (which I don't have) & on Comixology for Windows 8 (I have Windows 7) PM me if you can help - Cheers

I recall several members of the cast saying that the Marco Polo episodes are probably better as lost episodes than found, thanks to the viewers nostalgia and imagination.

That said, I admit my desire to see it is pretty huge.

Assuming the new rumours to be true, it'd be interesting in a few months time to review stories once the glow of "Oh! We FOUND IT!!" has rubbed off. There used to be an excellent podcast (Cadmium2 ?) that was reviewing each and every DW story in order but they stopped early Troughton, but they did do 'Tomb Of The Cybermen' which was lost for a long time and had been venerated to high-heaven by 'old fans' - their review was "yeah, it was OK, but beyond a few set pieces (eg: the breakout) it was a bit 'meh' "

From what I remember HEARING of of Marco Polo it's a good story but, and even taking into account the one week break between episodes, it really is one of those that was dragged out far too long. But I'd love to see the sets, if nothing else. From what we've seen of telesnaps and BTS photos there's no doubt that what it 'lacked' in story-telling it more than made up with in production values.

YIPEEEE 50 TODAY!!!!!

And as a reminder - can folks keep discussion of the episode in well marked SPOILER tags for a few days? 50 hours, at least.

Even with the live stream and how fast copies will profligate across the net, we still need to appreciate that fellow fans still may have missed it.

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But in the mean-time ... feel free to mentally update this song from Mitch Benn ...

Mitch Benn - Call Me During Doctor Who and I'll Kill You - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hW_UQASjY)

Happy Birthday Doctor Who

I hope all us fans have a great & memorable Anniversary Day

my list of hopes & wishes are
Hurt to Eccleston regeneration scene
more missing episodes returned, being announced during the after show party

cameos by some old companions and other Doctors (no matter how brief)

and maybe Moffy told a whopping big fat lie & we get a Smith to Capaldi regeneration as well

all will be revealed.... I cant wait

and maybe Moffy told a whopping big fat lie & we get a Smith to Capaldi regeneration as well


I wouldn't be holding your breath for this to happen tomorrow :p

Happy 50th all!! :D

(And my 500th post - how very apt...)

Has anyone seen the audiobook versions of the puffin books for Medic What's 50th?

Have I seen them? Yes.

Have I got them? No.

501!

I hope I get as much attention when I'm 50!

Happy 50th all

I hope I get as much attention when I'm 50!

I was 50 last year - you had to press the red button to see my special...

Happy Anniversary everyone... especially "to all of you at home"!

I hope I get as much attention when I'm 50!

Happy 50th all

I bet you don't get your own 75 minute Special, LOL

I was 50 last year - you had to press the red button to see my special...

If your avatar is representative of your parties, count me in!

who is the medic auntie wireless doc.

https://mega.co.nz/#!RxcTATwa!AcRD8lRX6x41J_om7_6VnDQzscxk-cpnbVbTaK8x010

Happy 50th anniversary! Here's to 50 more years.

Just watched AAISAT - still a bit teary - so wonderful, and such a beautiful ending. Well done to Gatiss, Bradley & Co all round.

Good that they didn't veer away from the 'problems' with Hartnell, but didn't dwell either. The appearance of MS was inspired. And lovely to see Jean Marsh & Anneke Wills cameo - didn't expect that!

Now roll on the Day - 3D Cinema version!!

What a great weekend!!!! :)

8 and a half hours to go!!!!! Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e!

I tell you something, the BBC don't half get away with some liberties

I think most of us know that Ray Cusick didn't get any royalties for HIS Dalek design

but I just found out that Delia Derbyshire dint get any royalties for her work on the Doctor Who score

what a flipping cheek!

Loved AAITAS - very touching.

Happy 50th Anniversary to my favourite show.

Great to celebrate with such wonderful company :)

I tell you something, the BBC don't half get away with some liberties

I think most of us know that Ray Cusick didn't get any royalties for HIS Dalek design

but I just found out that Delia Derbyshire dint get any royalties for her work on the Doctor Who score

what a flipping cheek!

In fairness, though, those that managed to wrangle some sort of 'licence/royalties' deal from their work on DW are the exception rather than the rule.

7 1/2 hrs to go people. Watched Adventures. Drooled over The Vault. Enjoyed BBC America Tales of the TARDIS. Listened to [LC CC] The Start, played Doctoring' the TARDIS and Jon Pertwee I am the Doctor on local radio. All set for 5.50am ast 2 have my mind blown yet again. Then the 3D movie experience. Then more BBC America specials. Then the novel. Then the Puffin bk. Then the....

HAPPY 50TH DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!

Missing Episodes rumour mill kicking right off- BBC Radio just mentioned an announcement is expected in the next few days to answer fans enquiries about more returns (NOTE 'returns' plural)

if there were none, why would an announcement be expected in the next few days?????

BBC Radio - that pretty much seals it for me. the pattern is repeating, folks. All looks good!! :O

I'm only expecting Marco Polo- and not 60-90 episodes- when Web & Enemy were originally announced as found the BBC DID initially report that Hartnell & Troughton episodes had been found, but then nothing was heard of in relation to Hartnell. I know NOTHING IS CONFIRMED as yet, but I'm keeping my fingers firmly crossed- after a slow boring start Anniversary Year has been great for me. The Troughton returns & McGann regeneration have definitely been my personal highlights so far.

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Phil Morris Interview on BBC News live in about 5 minutes-

Phil Morris Interview on BBC News live in about 5 minutes-

Damn. I must have missed it. Anything new to report?

I missed it as well - if there was anything, I'm sure it'll hit the tinternet any minute now

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Phil Morris at Excel today. Rumours of a big announcement at 5.15.

Happy 50th anniversary to Doctor Who fans old and new. Have a great day and enjoy tonight's Doctor Who 50th.

Happy anniversary everyone! And thanks AdrianHula!!

Mitch Ben DW music podcast - The Mitch Benn Doctor Who Music Podcast | Mitch Benn (http://tinyurl.com/q5m38me)

Just watched AAITAS. Well... what can I say?

David Bradley should get a BAFTA for that performance. Absolutely brilliant! Does the anniversary justice. Lovely touch at the end too.

Just watched AAITAS. Well... what can I say?

David Bradley should get a BAFTA for that performance. Absolutely brilliant! Does the anniversary justice. Lovely touch at the end too.
My feelings exactly. Hell, if this were an actual movie, I'd even say that Bradley's performance is Oscar-worthy. But I'm not that brazen. The guy they got to play Patrick Troughton certainly captured his mannerisms pretty well, too.

Happy anniversary everyone!! I just watched AAiTaS myself. Absolutely wonderful stuff! Couldn't help but shed a tear. Was very moving to see Bill's reaction when Carol Ann left. Not being british myself, I hadn't realized just how many walls DW actually tore down. Verity Lambert is nothing short of a monument! Also watched the latest mini episode. To be honest, I was scared half to death. Haven't seen the Daleks so scary since their first episode with CE. They had to be there for the 50th and if this minisode is any indication, I think they'll be brilliant and just maybe I'll be able to forget the ridiculous Victory episode... I think even Davros would be ashamed of that one!

Well, here we are, awaiting the "Big moment". As for me, a home cooked curry, a beer, and watching "AAITAS" [The "starter course"] for the FIRST time before the main event, [the main course] I hope that the main course will be as good as the starter... fingers crossed. Here we go folks, its almost time! I hope we can all enjoy the festivities! This is a lovely warm place, and sooo many peeps have helped me out. One Person, and you should know who you are, take a silent but well deserved bow!

Well, here we are, awaiting the "Big moment". As for me, a home cooked curry, a beer, and watching "AAITAS" [The "starter course"] for the FIRST time before the main event, [the main course] I hope that the main course will be as good as the starter... fingers crossed. Here we go folks, its almost time! I hope we can all enjoy the festivities! This is a lovely warm place, and sooo many peeps have helped me out. One Person, and you should know who you are, take a silent but well deserved bow!

My imagination right now is that DotD will have more bang but ultimately AAiSaT will have more emotional resonance for fans.

Hi,
Was unable to get the Torygraph today so missed the code for the free download. Does anybody here have it.

My feelings exactly. Hell, if this were an actual movie, I'd even say that Bradley's performance is Oscar-worthy. But I'm not that brazen. The guy they got to play Patrick Troughton certainly captured his mannerisms pretty well, too.

Reece Shearsmith played Pat T.

I should add that there wasn't a bad character in the whole show. well worthy of a prime time drama slot

Reece Shearsmith played Pat T.

I should add that there wasn't a bad character in the whole show. well worthy of a prime time drama slot
Name sounds familiar. What else has he been in?

Name sounds familiar. What else has he been in?

He's one of the League Of Gentlemen of Royston Vasey

He's one of the League Of Gentlemen of Royston Vasey
I keep putting off watching that. I hear it's got a rather dark brand of humor, though...

I keep putting off watching that. I hear it's got a rather dark brand of humor, though...

*VERY* dark, and probably a bit of an acquired taste. IIRC there was a radio version that wasn't quite so dark.

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we have never had so much publicity for our show - i really hope we get some sustained momentum from this, i love you alll and the show is on soon, see you all after! moff has a lot to live upto!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 minutes and counting....

dr whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tiime

personally, loved it!

bracing for the inevitable 'i hated it, it was awful', blah blah blah.

Still loved it.

So this does change things somewhat. Will we see a return to the classic era? Loved the surprises. Aaagghhh....spoilers. Talk soon.

Another vote for "loved it" - I actually stood up at one point and said "yessss!"

not a bad show at all.

personally, loved it!

bracing for the inevitable 'i hated it, it was awful', blah blah blah.

Still loved it.

Same here. Thought it was fantastic - especially the cameo at the end :D
Moffett finally comes good after a pretty poor season.

I AM NOT DISAPPOINTED! No Spoilers

Well done to Moffy & the Team - I salute you

Please use spoilers...I can't watch it until tomorrow night...some work issues!!!!

SM is a git - i was blubbing like a child!!!! i've been v miserable, suffered from depression for 20 years, tried to kill myslef etc but SM has just broken down all of my emotional barriers - medic what is a gift from god.

Still trying to make our minds up over it. A mixed, but enjoyable, bag.

It was all-around brilliant! I loved the hell out of it. I always thought Moffat was a barking mad genius, and that episode proved it in SPADES!

My mom was watching the episode with me, and she actually squealed with delight at Tom Baker's cameo. XD

Also, did any one catch the fleeting cameo appearance of Capaldi there or am I just as mad as Moffat...? XD

New Zealand yet to watch it due to PG restrictions. Ahead with same-sex marriage. Behind with Doctor Who.

Loved it, especially in 3d. Roll on the Christmas episode!

...

You definitely saw what you thought you saw ...

Now an unrelated question. I thought the special would finally tell us something about the new Tonka-toys Daleks. So here are my questions Mr Moffatt. What is hidden in the hump at back and when do we get to see it? If the new Daleks destroyed the old regime, why are we suddenly back to the 2005 versions? I can follow the Cult of Skaro story, but after that, a bit lost I'm afraid. What do others think??? Did the Moff back out of the new Daleks and put in the 2005 ones again in the Asylum? Or did I miss something.

You definitely saw what you thought you saw ...
Good. Just wanted to be sure I wasn't the only one who caught that, because one of my friends just told me on Skype she didn't notice it...

I've come to the conclusion that today has been a very good day, especially if you have been a doctor who fan since the age of four. There's even a tardis on the top of cardiff castle today.

BBC One - Doctor Who, The Day of the Doctor, The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01m3kfy)

AMAZING!!!! THE TWIST AT THE END OF THE FIVE(ISH) DOCTORS WAS FOR ME THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE ANNIVERSARY!!! WHAT A STROKE OF GENIUS!!!

DoD was GREAT!!!! Lots of fun, bit confused on how things quite work with the Time War stuff, but I don't care too much. I just loved how much fun I had watching it.

New Zealand yet to watch it due to PG restrictions. Ahead with same-sex marriage. Behind with Doctor Who.

It was on Prime at Nine AM, an hour after it screened in the UK.

I actually contemplated finding bunny ears for my gathering dust haven't been used as a tv in 7 years TV, because the internet was letting the side down.

Just wanted to say that if Gallifrey now exists , does that mean that Rassilon and The Master are on Gallifrey and could return?

AMAZING!!!! THE TWIST AT THE END OF THE FIVE(ISH) DOCTORS WAS FOR ME THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE ANNIVERSARY!!! WHAT A STROKE OF GENIUS!!!

There's no need to shout, though!

Just wanted to say that if Gallifrey now exists , does that mean that Rassilon and The Master are on Gallifrey and could return?

The End of Time happened the day before the last day, and the day of the doctor happened on the last day... Although it could be a question of hours, since they knew he had the moment in the End of Time and that he was pondering when to use it.

The Master ran to the end of Time at the Beginning of the Time War, you're suggesting that he was sucked into the last day of the Time War in the End of Time, rather than dying in the kerfuffle?

If he was added to the mix at a late date and he wasn't supposed to have, then surely that could have changed what was happen on the last day to some degree?

Anyone else watch the near farce that was the 'after party' on BBC3? That was ... erm ... an abject leason in how not to do live TV?

Great to see everyone together though, even if they did have an air of "Can't we all just get drunk and PPPARRRRRTTTYYY!!!! now?"

The End of Time happened the day before the last day, and the day of the doctor happened on the last day... Although it could be a question of hours, since they knew he had the moment in the End of Time and that he was pondering when to use it.

The Master ran to the end of Time at the Beginning of the Time War, you're suggesting that he was sucked into the last day of the Time War in the End of Time, rather than dying in the kerfuffle?

If he was added to the mix at a late date and he wasn't supposed to have, then surely that could have changed what was happen on the last day to some degree?

My head hurts trying to figure that one out ... I hate time travel :D

Kathryn Janeway? Is that you?

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Day of Medic, Absolutley brilliant apart from one thing that was missing in my opinion but I shall bang on about that at a later date

Thought day of - was brilliant, although still confused about how many docs we have now, and the five(ish) docs was hilarious.

Behind the Lens - The Day of the Doctor - Doctor Who 50th Anniversary - BBC - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UVt0NF5j0g)

Any chance anyone can post the Davison skit? I really want to be able to watch it tonight after the anniversary with my friends but I can't connect my computer to the tv.

I only really had two issues with it. One: They kind of left the Zygon plot dead in the water. and Two: Why couldn't they finish that regeneration scene!? Otherwise it was brilliant, and well I'm pretty sure my fanself is gloating over the potential of being right since the end of time and the regeneration issue.

The End of Time happened the day before the last day, and the day of the doctor happened on the last day... Although it could be a question of hours, since they knew he had the moment in the End of Time and that he was pondering when to use it.

The Master ran to the end of Time at the Beginning of the Time War, you're suggesting that he was sucked into the last day of the Time War in the End of Time, rather than dying in the kerfuffle?

If he was added to the mix at a late date and he wasn't supposed to have, then surely that could have changed what was happen on the last day to some degree?

Nothing's changed. The End Of Time gave us a portrayal of the Time Lords & an account of the Time War that completely contradicted everything the 9th & 10th Doctors had EVER said about them/it (because RTD favoured an epic finale over keeping continuity). The Day Of The Doctor very neatly explained why that was. The Time Lords were only able to return in The End Of Time because of the 11th Doctors actions in Day Of The Doctor!

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Now an unrelated question. I thought the special would finally tell us something about the new Tonka-toys Daleks. So here are my questions Mr Moffatt. What is hidden in the hump at back and when do we get to see it? If the new Daleks destroyed the old regime, why are we suddenly back to the 2005 versions? I can follow the Cult of Skaro story, but after that, a bit lost I'm afraid. What do others think??? Did the Moff back out of the new Daleks and put in the 2005 ones again in the Asylum? Or did I miss something.

The hump contains specialist weapons & tools (supposedly) & yes, Moffat did do a u-turn after all the negative feedback the new Daleks received! All the publicity about Asylum featuring every kind of Dalek ever seen was a smokescreen used to reintroduce the RTD Daleks without anyone asking awkward questions (& they seem to have gotten away with it, too).

No, because The Day of the Doctor hadn't happened yet. :)

I've decided to blame 7 for the Time War.

Seven claims that 8 is too much of a wussy to survive, so he clears the universal chess board of all the major players who were keeping both the Timelords and Daleks in check.

If 7 had trusted 8 to fight his own battles and not spent decades destroying elder gods and monsters to build McGann's Doctor a playpen where nothing bad could happen, then the Daleks and the Timelords would never have been allowed to meet head on by the elder powers.

The hump contains specialist weapons & tools (supposedly) & yes, Moffat did do a u-turn after all the negative feedback the new Daleks received! All the publicity about Asylum featuring every kind of Dalek ever seen was a smokescreen used to reintroduce the RTD Daleks without anyone asking awkward questions (& they seem to have gotten away with it, too).

Yup! On either one of the Extras, or Commentary or Confidential (one of them, anyway) Gattis says they just couldn't get the 'hump' to work as a practicable effect and it would cost too much to CGI it all the time. They also say that the realised design doesn't quite match their intention and that it really never quite worked as well as they'd hoped.

I like the idea behnd the design, but it never quite worked for me with the hump-back, short neck, look.

But the new paint job they gave them for Asylum helped at lot, as did moving them to the background a bit.

So half the planet is going to be occupied with Zygons...Did the Doctor think to warn these two civilizations about the millions of Silurians thinking that they have a home on the 22nd century Earth?

And what about the successful Dalek Invasion of 2157?

Meanwhile the 30th century solar storms that cause man to evacuate?

Would the Zygons and Silurians be fine with the radiation?

I thought the sister was a daughter.

No, because The Day of the Doctor hadn't happened yet. :)



Of course it had. 10 & 11 went back in time to make their momentous decision. The results of that are exactly what we see in The End Of Time.

Do we see the moment destroy Gallifrey and the Daleks in the End of Time?

Nope.

Gallifrey and everything else is just sucked back into the timelocked segment of space time. And once everything is stuck back in the Time War, "when" it's still almost a day before the Doctor uses the moment.

So half the planet is going to be occupied with Zygons...Did the Doctor think to warn these two civilizations about the millions of Silurians thinking that they have a home on the 22nd century Earth?

And what about the successful Dalek Invasion of 2157?

Meanwhile the 30th century solar storms that cause man to evacuate?

Would the Zygons and Silurians be fine with the radiation?

I thought the sister was a daughter.

i imagine the inner earth theory could rectify that and one could be there an indeterminable amount of time til things are better "above"

Do we see the moment destroy Gallifrey and the Daleks in the End of Time?

Nope.

Gallifrey and everything else is just sucked back into the timelocked segment of space time. And once everything is stuck back in the Time War, "when" it's still almost a day before the Doctor uses the moment.


That's not what I'm saying, at all. I don't think you're following me. Somebody remind me how to make a spoiler box & I will lay it all out, for you.
Cheers.

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I cocked that up, somehow. I'll have to practice & get back to you.

I will say that my favorite parts of the anniv. were aAiSaT and the Five(ish). The 50th ep had a lot of nods to fans, but *awesome* Zygons aside, plus you know Who, I was much less impressed.

back slash not forward slash.

Other side of the shift button.

Someone jiggered 8.5's memories which tracked forward, wiping memories is not the same as creating false memories, it was probably the Moments conscience. The illusion persisted that Gallifrey was destroyed and the moment was used... This doesn't change what happens in the End of Time or everything the Doctor believes to be real as of Rose, because in the End of Time, the moment both has and has not yet been used.

Why is there a K9 and Friends Christmas special listed as 2013 being dropped online right now?

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Righto then; this is the story I see Moffat telling us & why I say nothing has changed:

1. Doctor's 9 & 10 go on & on about the Time War & it's all, pretty much, the same - The Doctor has killed all the Time Lords & Gallifrey has burned away to nothing (& they're quite specific about this).

2. In The End Of Time, we find that, contrary to everything The Doctor has said, Gallifrey is not actually destroyed & The Time Lords aren't dead - they've all been time-locked away from the rest of the universe. They briefly escape, then go back.

3. In Day Of The Doctor, the 3 Doctors go back to the Time War & decide that, instead of killing the Time Lords, they are going to lock them away from the rest of the universe, letting everyone think they're all dead. They realise, though, that Doctors 8.5, 9 & 10 will not remember this & will go through life thinking they've destroyed Gallifrey & killed the Time Lords.

4. Doctor's 9 & 10 go on & on about the Time War & it's all, pretty much, the same - The Doctor has killed all the Time Lords &...

Sorry, I got my backslash and forwardslash mixed up.

Back slash just sounds cooler.

Sorry, I got my backslash and forwardslash mixed up.

Back slash just sounds cooler.

No worries; I meant to say thanks but in my rush to delete my failed spoiler box, it got lost. So sorry & thanks.

K9 Adventures. A Christmas Tale (2013) has nothing to do with the Medic. It's a feel good hallmark movie starring Luke Perry about a dog who saves Christmas from Burglars.

Of course Luke Perry did play the US Inspector Spacetime, so maybe if I tried to watch This K9 Adventures Movie very very carefully...

Why are people saying 8.5? The cameo clearly states 13 Doctors, so that would make JH 9, CE 10, DT 11 (who regenerated back into himself), MS 12 and current PC 13. And he said "make that 13 Doctors". So this is the last regeneration, although the prequel may suggest that the Doctor now uses the elixir of life from the Sisterhood of Karn to regenerate. (Doesn't explain Master except that may be how he kept going after Deadly Assassin)

[code] Why are people saying 8.5? The cameo clearly states 13 Doctors, so that would make JH 9, CE 10, DT 11 (who regenerated back into himself), MS 12 and current PC 13. And he said "make that 13 Doctors". So this is the last regeneration, although the prequel may suggest that the Doctor now uses the elixir of life from the Sisterhood of Karn to regenerate. (Doesn't explain Master except that may be how he kept going after Deadly Assassin).

13 Numerically, yes. "All 13 of them". But, even though Hurt had earned the right to call himself Doctor by the end, it was also stated that he wouldn't remember it, so still not "The Doctor" as such. That said, they've just reissued the 11 Docs anniversary artwork with Hurt inserted, so I'll wait and see what the Moff says! :P

Just got back from the cinema after seeing it there and, apart from the first 2 minutes being blurry coz they cocked up, the 3D was excellent & served the story well. A terrific episode with almost everything I could've reasonably hoped for, with some fantastic surprises and fan 'squee' moments. I loved it IMMENSELY and left the cinema with a HUGE grin on my face. Also loved the little special pre-show bits we got - one with Strax & one with Tennant & Smith - hope we get them on the blu!

I laughed out loud in sheer joy at Capaldi's brief appearance. There were gasps when Tom turned up at the end, and predictable fan-girl 'awwws' for Tennant, especially when he said "I don't want to go" (bleaghhh...)... I just wanted to run around the cinema pumping my fist and screaming "Yes!" when the other doctors all 'cameo-ed' (and I'm pretty sure the living ones - except, I guess Eccles - all recorded new lines. Lovely reference to the "UNIT Dating" kefuffle, too!

All in all, a PERFECT celebration, and, like GoldenTalesGeek, my faith in Moffat is strengthened & renewed. Will watch again tonight. Looks like Xmas will answer some questions, too. Can't wait for the Capaldi years!

We've been calling him 8.5 for months.

Whatever happened today, hasn't shook us of that yet.

Are we really moving them up a number?

If PC said there are 13 Doctors, then he would remember it. Mind blown yet again...

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Gallifreyian - "I didn't know when I was well off - all 12 of them". Voice - "No sir, all thirteen" pic of PC's eyes. Yep, that does it for me. PC is now the 13th Doctor, even if the others do forget.

SmugglerTrev, the question of possible (yet unlikely) changes to the timeline that I was suggesting, that you were trying to explain to me didn't happen, had nothing to do with the medic. I was asking what (as yet unseen) Impact did the Master have on the last day after he got sucked into timelocked Gallifrey.

Too many pronouns.

Gallifreyian - "I didn't know when I was well off - all 12 of them". Voice - "No sir, all thirteen" pic of PC's eyes. Yep, that does it for me. PC is now the 13th Doctor, even if the others do forget.

13th incarnation, inarguably. Hurt is the same man. 13th "Doctor"? Yet to be completely clarified, for me, but I think right now whatever someone thinks is the case, can be the case... :)

Showing Tom at the end, suggested that although he can't create "new bodies" he can still roll the odometer back to old bodies, which might make him effectively immortal and this could be an unnatural ability or even a technological enhancement.

The regeneration limit is moot.

Indeed. There'll be as many Doctors as there "need" to be.

(57 by 2063 according to Smith in the spoof intro we got at the cinema today!!...)

I just feel so disappointed that CE could not have given a small slice of his time for the regeneration sequence, I really thought I was going to see his jug lugs appear, however I'm sure some technical geek out there could run his regeneration into tennant backwards and try and create an illusion of him appearing ?Doctor Who?: Christopher Eccleston?s ?The Day of the Doctor? absence was unnecessary - Zap2it (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/11/doctor-who-christopher-ecclestons-the-day-of-the-doctor-absence-was-unnecessary.html)

According to Nicholas Courtney's own invention...

Alistair had a wife, then had an affair and then married his mistress... Are we sure that those two women are full sisters and not half sisters?

I loved it! My nephew was over to take care of something and he came in and watched it from 15 minutes in. Never saw an ep before and he liked it. Fingers crossed that I can get him hooked now!

I think it's safe to say that CE is still the ninth medic despite the fact that he's the tenth version of this particular timelord. All the merchandise isn't going to be changed to bump everybody up a number and PC doesn't get to be unlucky 13. I still think they'll throw the regen limit out the window.

It was somewhat criminal that they didn't at least mention Rassilon and that scheme to make it fit established events.

To clarify something: 10 saying the time war was time locked has nothing to do with Gal current status. The fact that the war can't be entered has nothing to do with whether or not the planet was destroyed. You simply can't time travel back into the war.

The curator needs explaining.

I think this would have been a good time to show us PC costume.

I'll take half a regen over no regen.

When the hell are we going to find out who blew up the tardis in season 5?

Didn't EoT take place will before DoTD?

If so then Rassilon tried to break out of the time lock and escape the war but was foiled and Gallifrey was sent back. The rest of the war played out until the events of DotD when the 3 docs came up with their plan.

Seeing the explosion the doc didn't know if he'd killed the Time Lords or not, until the conversation with TB.

So there's no actual conflict between the 2 stories cos they take place at different stages of the war.

The End of Time happened on the day before the last day of the time war.

The Day of the Doctor happened on the last day of the time war.

Time locking means that nothing changes (All timetravel that has happened is all the time travel that ever will have happened.) and nothing gets in or out.

(Things have gotten out. I know.)

Using clumsy terms, inside the timelock is the entire universe between two points in time.

Which means that what is inside the timelock is as-if/similar to a copy/mirror/alternate universe (yet actually still real), except outside the lock is the universe (which is simultaneously as real) which we know to be real that is free and capable of unpredictable growth and change.

The Doctor used the moment, or seemed to use the moment and the superficial effects of which to Gallifrey is identical because there are clever forces at work making sure time doesn't spin out of control from inconsistencies in the doctors personal timeline.

It doesn't matter if all of his past happened, only that he continues to do everything he's supposed to do because he believes all of his past happened. Cause and effect.

Gallifrey briefly left the timelock, and then returned without anyone important being aware, so that Gallifrey continued on doing what it had always done and no choice but to always do inside the Timelock.

Did anyone think that all of Gallifrey was in the painting?

Can anyone figure out WHY The War Doctor regenerated? Because I didn't see him get shot, stabed, or even kicked in the shin.

I think this would have been a good time to show us PC costume.

When the hell are we going to find out who blew up the tardis in season 5?

PC is apparently still choosing/finalizing his costume, according to an interview with Moff yesterday at ExCel, thus the extreme close-up.

And Christmas would be my guess, going by Moff's comment & the teaser trailer...

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Can anyone figure out WHY The War Doctor regenerated? Because I didn't see him get shot, stabed, or even kicked in the shin.


"Body's wearing a bit thin", a la Hartnell. & Pls use spoiler tags, there may still be handful out there who have yet to see it. :)

The thing that struck me was...

Look at how tall Sylvester McCoy has gotten!

The thing that struck me was...


He's standing on The Step-Ladders Of Rassilon.

And is it just me or...

...does Tom still look like his 5 Docs waxwork in that shot?? :D

Showing Tom at the end, suggested that although he can't create "new bodies" he can still roll the odometer back to old bodies, which might make him effectively immortal and this could be an unnatural ability or even a technological enhancement.

The regeneration limit is moot.

It also begs the question if all the other living Doctors could be brought into future shows as their older selves...

And is it just me or...

...does Tom still look like his 5 Docs waxwork in that shot?? :D

absolutely

We were rather hoping that ...


The Curator was Ian.

We were rather hoping that ...


The Curator was Ian.


Given the way the rest of the show had gone, I half expected it to be Capaldi.

LC latest monthly, 1962+1 Murderous Olympics.

Apologies if this has been posted already, but I could only find part 1. Here it is complete as a single mp3 file.



Download BF180 - 1963 The Assassination Games.mp3 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/0n7hmt)

Just watched 5(ish) Doctors Reboot and almost pmsl. Absolutely brilliant.

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Any chance anyone can post the Davison skit? I really want to be able to watch it tonight after the anniversary with my friends but I can't connect my computer to the tv.

I downloaded it from here.
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I downloaded it from here.

Thank you very much. I look forward to showing my friends that next time they are over.

As for the Curator..
I am of the opinion that he was put in simply as a nod to Tom, who has been shafted pretty regularly either by the B or by himself. Since he has come back into the fold through LC, he has wanted to get more involved overall. While it as cleverly phrased, I just took it as "Tom Baker, The Actor, referring to his time as The Doctor." not "The Fourth Doctor, magically reborn and living in UNIT as a groundskeeper."

Some stuff I *loved* in Five(ish)
Janet Fielding. The companion dream with Adric at the end. Best Adric scene of all time.

As for the Curator..
I am of the opinion that he was put in simply as a nod to Tom, who has been shafted pretty regularly either by the B or by himself. Since he has come back into the fold through LC, he has wanted to get more involved overall. While it as cleverly phrased, I just took it as "Tom Baker, The Actor, referring to his time as The Doctor." not "The Fourth Doctor, magically reborn and living in UNIT as a groundskeeper."



I take the exact opposite view, the curator makes it quite clear (IMO) in talking to Eleven that he is a future version who has the power to look like (revisit) his older selves. This ties in with Eleven thinking how good it would be to be the curator in the future

I take the exact opposite view, the curator makes it quite clear (IMO) in talking to Eleven that he is a future version who has the power to look like (revisit) his older selves. This ties in with Eleven thinking how good it would be to be the curator in the future

I see it as totally a meta moment where Matt Smith, the actor, is speaking personally. And the curator is speaking as an actor who is now older (thus "the future" bit).
Regardless, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in it :p

I see it as totally a meta moment where Matt Smith, the actor, is speaking personally. And the curator is speaking as an actor who is now older (thus "the future" bit).
Regardless, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in it :p

I think you're BOTH right.


A nod for TB, and at some point in the far future for The Doc he 'retires' into older version of a previous self.

And it also makes some head-canon space for the A-Go adventures ... They're the Curator Doctor having adventures! :)

So I am wondering...the line "No sir, all 13!", right before we see Capaldi's face - was it or was it not said by him?

So I am wondering...the line "No sir, all 13!", right before we see Capaldi's face - was it or was it not said by him?

No, it was the junior time lord in the war room.

I take the exact opposite view, the curator makes it quite clear (IMO) in talking to Eleven that he is a future version who has the power to look like (revisit) his older selves. This ties in with Eleven thinking how good it would be to be the curator in the future

It's pretty spelt out in the dialogue with the Doctor saying one day he might want to be a curator and then a guy who looks like the 4th Doctor is the curator saying he's the the same person as Matt and using an old face of his

The difference between time line A and time line B.

the moment is a weapon which destroys galaxies.

In Timeline A, if it had ever happened, and not only been just a cunning ruse, Kasterborous burned. The entire galaxy. Woosh! Remember what it looked like after man started removing galaxies to get rid of the Cybermen? Vast open stretches of nothingness.

In Timeline B, which seems to have now happened, since the button pushing was not timelocked even though the rest of the war supposedly was, Gallifrey dimensionally shifted and the Dalek Fleet shot itself. Which means that Kasterborous survived.

Timeline? Wrong word.

I'm talking about (stage magician level) illusions (Send Darren Brown some more flowers.). Planting fake evidence rewriting some memories. This is barely about time travel or time lines at all. :)

Really because of timelocking, effect does not follow cause and it didn't matter if the Doctor pushed the button or not, the galaxy has to burn because that's what the evidence has always indicated had happened, and really how dumb was the Doctor not to ask why the galaxy destroying super weapon didn't destroy the galaxy?

Unless the Moment rewrote it's specs, or annotation about it's specs afterwhich people only think that it's supposed to merely just blow up tiny planets and not entire Galaxies? Unless of course if after the Doctor saved Gallifrey and destroyed the Daleks, once everything was safe, the Moment then destroyed an "Empty" galaxy to cover up the truth?

Years ago, when the Master went looking for Gallifrey, all he said was that "It''s not there" nothing about how there's an hole the size of a galaxy where it used to be.

By the way?

How come the Daleks don't have planet killer super weapons?

The fleet should have been split in two, one to distract the Time lords and the other to trigger a super nova.

Conventional bogstandard weapons against planetary defences?

No wonder they needed a fleet.

Timey Wimey, Wibbly Wobbly, still a darn good romp, hope Grand Moff can keep up the same standard for Next season.

He can't.

This was a trick.

A very expensive trick.

An unsustainably expensive trick.

Remember Oswin Osgood from Dalek Asylum?

Is Osgood (in the scarf, with the inhaler.) really just a shard of Clara from the name of the Doctor doing her course correcting thingy?

oswin oswald not osgood....

Hey, I googled it!

oswin osgood - Google Search (http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=oswin+osgood&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&gfe_rd=ctrl&ei=NWSSUqzMJs_C8gfgoYH4BA&gws_rd=cr)

It seems google found some other people's spelling mistakes.

Osgood was a unit tech guy from worzels the Daemons.... I just assumed that THIS Osgood was his daughter/granddaughter or something.
Just waiting for the offspring of Benton, yates and for the ADHD in me, corp. Bell!

Offspring of Benton, Yates and Bell???? cue slash fiction writers going into overdrive, and as its here on this site....here comes Guy..........lol

Yes, here I come.

In the beginning, I thought Osgood said "mum" when talking to Kate.

But it was Ma'am, not mum, because there's no way later on that she would call her mum Kate... Although calling her sister "ma'am" is also a bit of a stretch.

Later when the Zygon was talking about Osgoods sister, I thought, "oh! kate is her sister!"

(Turn on slash fiction mode.)

The Brigadier had two wives.

What if after Alistair moved on, Tom Osgood from the Daemons, pulled the first original wife, which would make Kate and Osgood half sisters without making her a Lethbridge-Stewart.

Otherwise that Zygon was just being a bitch to say that she'd rather have taken over Osgoods sister, if the other Osgood was a Primary School teacher half a country away and of no tactical value whatsoever.

Has anyone not seen it yet?

Yes, here I come.


Otherwise that Zygon was just being a bitch to say that she'd rather have taken over Osgoods sister, if the other Osgood was a Primary School teacher half a country away and of no tactical value whatsoever.



That's exactly what the Zygon was being, using the gained memories of Osgood to torment her with her own insecurities - that's all you can read into it

Until later when it turned out to be a nice "girl".

Yes, here I come.

In the beginning, I thought Osgood said "mum" when talking to Kate.

But it was Ma'am, not mum, because there's no way later on that she would call her mum Kate... Although calling her sister "ma'am" is also a bit of a stretch.

Later when the Zygon was talking about Osgoods sister, I thought, "oh! kate is her sister!"

(Turn on slash fiction mode.)

The Brigadier had two wives.

What if after Alistair moved on, Tom Osgood from the Daemons, pulled the first original wife, which would make Kate and Osgood half sisters without making her a Lethbridge-Stewart.

Otherwise that Zygon was just being a bitch to say that she'd rather have taken over Osgoods sister, if the other Osgood was a Primary School teacher half a country away and of no tactical value whatsoever.

Has anyone not seen it yet?

Now that WAS timing! lol we should be a double act... Django & Lighthouse!.... I am of course open to other suggestions

That's what she said.

Was Torchwood One in direct competition with the Tower of London?

"If it's Alien, it's ours."

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

"No ours!"

Well Torchwood was started by Queen Victoria....UNIT, the united nations, and we ALL know how effective THEY are!
Torchwood would win! lol
Well unless the Brig was still head of the British division that is...He would just blow it up!

He was regular Army in Web of Fear?

Regular Army answers to Parliament, not the crown.

Yes he was, then seconded to UNIT by the time of the Invasion, then off for hot chocolate in Geneva throughout Worzels reign.
Maybe that's why he blew up a lot of shit.... the Government would not let him, but the UN did! lol

Now things get really confusing...
When one says "the ninth Doctor" it can have multiple meanings:

1) The ninth incarnation/body/face in chronological order which would be John Hurt.
2) The ninth actor to play the doctor which would mean Christopher Eccleston.
3) The ninth incarnation to use the title "doctor" which could mean Hurt or Eccleston.

When I hear "the ninth Doctor" I go with 1) although i realise a lot of people picture Eccleston. The same's with Capaldi. He's the last one* - that is thirteenth, but many refer to him as the twelfth. That's going to be hell during discussions ;)

*For the time being. They'll come up with something to raise the limit on regenerations anyway.

Well, if he still has that bondage harness, after he finds some more timelords he can suck out their regenerations using the eye of harmony in the TARDIS... And just because present day Gallifrey is "missing" he still has access to Gallifrey from the past if he wants to dance around a few paradoxes.

Question about DotD, apologize if this question has already been asked.

Why don't Ten and Hurt!Doctor remember the events of DotD? I don't feel as if it is explained very well, other than a throw away line about the time streams being out of sync. I've been trying to find some sort of evidence to support loss of memories after multi-doctor stories. Anyone have any idea?

Remember when Amy couldn't remember Rory?

Timelines out of sync.

Remember when Amy couldn't remember Rory?

Timelines out of sync.

I don't feel like those are the same thing. Rory is absorbed by the crack in the wall and is erased from existence. I think that's different from what I asked above.

Please, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. This question has just been bothering me since it aired. I just feel like the explanation in the episode was bare and unhelpful.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed DotD. Hurt was fantastic.

Rose spread out across all time, along ab illion different nooks and crannies... When she finally put herself back together again, he memory was swiss cheese about the eternity she spent as a goddess.

The universe forgot/removed the doctor after the second big bang until River gave it's recall the kiss of life.

Eccleston is the Ninth Doctor, and 10th incarnation.
Tennant is the Tenth, & 11th incarnation.
Smith is the Eleventh & 12th incarnation.
Capaldi is the Twelfth & "final" (as if...) incarnation.
John Hurt still does not count as a Doctor, but is the ninth incarnation.

Seems pretty simple to me. When the people in charge say otherwise, then it's otherwise. 'Til then, as Moffat has said "THE NUMBERING DOES NOT CHANGE"

Nothing confusing there, then.

The end.

:)

Eccleston is the Ninth Doctor, and 10th incarnation.
Tennant is the Tenth, & 11th incarnation.
Smith is the Eleventh & 12th incarnation.
Capaldi is the Twelfth & "final" (as if...) incarnation.
John Hurt still does not count as a Doctor, but is the ninth incarnation.

Seems pretty simple to me. When the people in charge say otherwise, then it's otherwise. 'Til then, as Moffat has said "THE NUMBERING DOES NOT CHANGE"

Nothing confusing there, then.

The end.

:)

I understand all of that. I'm just confused about the time streams line.

I'm not sure why Hurt!Doctor and Ten forgot about the events that took place.