[QUOTE=andyb2011;3589237]I quite liked it, but it didn't feel like it was part of the whoniverse. I think that was partly because it didn't actually begin in Who (unlike TW & SJA). The Doc was in ep 1 but felt like he'd been squeezed in just to link the two shows. Worth a watch, but don't expect too much.

Thanks andyb! i'll probs binge it sometime this week gotta few days off.

Have any of you guys ever had the thought of, I dunno, your watching summit rubbish or your other half is watching summit rubbish and you get the thought that whate ever your watching would be improved significantly if a bunch of pepperbots arrived a just started exterminating people. I have that thought when me mates watch the walking dead and as a good host put up with it lol


Eastenders or Corrie both need a good extermination :)

Corrie & Easteenders..Both Very depressing and a load of verbal guff!!,
No offense to anybody that does like them,just my personal opinion.

In Australia and other areas, today is Anzac Day - remembering the fallen soldiers who gave so much so we can live a free, good and happy life.

P.s is Schoolkids worth a watch? the general consensus in "MEH" yes, no, maybe so...

General consensus is often wrong. General consensus in some places is that Medic Whatsit is a silly kids show. Better to give Schoolkids a try and see what you think. Me, I liked it. There was one full-on stinker, imho, and a couple of weak ones, but there were some quite good episodes and some great moments along the way.

Edited to add: my sweetie and I both enjoy Corrie and Medic. We tend to like a lot of the same stuff. That's why we got together.

General consensus is often wrong. General consensus in some places is that Medic Whatsit is a silly kids show. Better to give Schoolkids a try and see what you think. Me, I liked it. There was one full-on stinker, imho, and a couple of weak ones, but there were some quite good episodes and some great moments along the way.

Edited to add: my sweetie and I both enjoy Corrie and Medic. We tend to like a lot of the same stuff. That's why we got together.

My personal opinion is that I wasn't a fan of Schoolkids, but then I've not really a fan of the usual "Kids in School with school drama" shows. I did enjoy the sci-fi elements of it though, and liked the finale. My own gruff was that I expected a lot more Turlough-like "Why can't we just stay safe instead of running towards a monster" than I actually got.

I watched the first episode of School Kids and that was enough for me. There was nothing about the premise that I found even the least bit appealing. It was like a bad mash-up of SJA, Birchwood, and 90210.

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I liked Grinning much more than the premiere. Didn't find Billy nearly as annoying this time out and the story was much stronger. That being said the whole reset button ending did feel like a little bit of a cop out after all the build-up, so it had that mark against it.

Was reading DWM and the interview with Rubert Hound, and a comment was made that the good thing about Sci-fi is that with culture issues like rascism, refugees, interracial sex and other taboos or areas of uncomfortable nature, they simply set it in 'A galaxy far, far away' on another planet to get away with talking about it. So what is considered taboo or a too sensitive subject (political or otherwise) is okay if you set it in the future, or another society, planet, etc.
Political issues, (such as The Happines Patol), can be more easily discussed if set away from this world.
Where do you think Doctor Who has gotten away with that?
What other Sci-fi in TV, movies, etc has broadened its horizons to speak of judgemental and taboo subjects in a galaxy far, far away.
Thoughts...

Star Trek in it's many iterations tackled taboo subjects, Next Generation had The Outcast and DS9 had Rejoined for example, both attempting to discuss same sex relationships. Being somewhat taboo at the time though and having to get the stories past the studio meant the message was diluted. For example the alien that Riker was attracted to in The Outcast was obviously played by a woman, far braver to have it be a man. It was always so, the interracial kiss in Plato's Stepchildren was filmed in such a way that you can't see Uhura and Kirk's lips meet, a deliberate choice of angle to lessen the controversy. Also having an interracial kiss only performed under duress probably isn't the taboo breaking message they were intending.

Things like cloning for body parts, see the movie The Island (Michael *spit* Bay directs) and Gattaca covers genetic discrimination. Two things that often get mentioned.

Of course Soylent Green - what do we do with the sick and dying? (also tackling the world's food crisis at the same time - bonus!!!)

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And people's lust for violence as entertainment - Rollerball and The Running Man.

Also, why we shouldn't train monkeys and gorillas, that it could be dangerous - see Planet of the Apes.

Also, why we shouldn't train monkeys and gorillas, that it could be dangerous - see Planet of the Apes.

I don't think training monkeys should be taboo, I still want a monkey butler.

I don't think training monkeys should be taboo, I still want a monkey butler.

Oh, I wouldn't. Haven't you seen Monkey Shines?!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpG4R3Sjf4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-2CzXEqb_I

I'm prepared to risk it just to be served dinner by a monkey in a bow tie.

I'm prepared to risk it just to be served dinner by a monkey in a bow tie.




Just for you DEL37...

Just for you DEL37...

Thank you! That's exactly how it'll be in my primate staffed mansion after my big lottery win (which is bound to happen one day)

While there's lot of old examples, I find it interesting being told that Sci-fi still does that today. Can anyone give me any 2010+ examples from TV or movies.

While there's lot of old examples, I find it interesting being told that Sci-fi still does that today. Can anyone give me any 2010+ examples from TV or movies.

I suppose Avatar was like the cowboys and indians. Hey those natives are on a gold mine, Let's move them on/kill them and take what we want. But it's ok really as they are only aliens.

If that's the kind of thing you meant.

I suppose Avatar was like the cowboys and indians. Hey those natives are on a gold mine, Let's move them on/kill them and take what we want. But it's ok really as they are only aliens.

If that's the kind of thing you meant.Avatar was the preachiest load of nonsense I think I've ever seen. I go to the movies to be entertained not sit through a three hour lecture about exploitation and tree hugging environmentalism. If I want to watch something like that I'll stay home and watch PBS.

Avatar had all the depth of an evaporating puddle. Unobtanium - really? I am a fan of environmentalism though.

Speaking of movies, Guardians of the Galaxxy starts this week. From the Whoniverse, I think it has Karen Gillian in it again. The first one was a real hoot. Don't like the green comic con chips though. Oh...also Vin Diesel and Sylvester Stallone...

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!! Ignore them, spoil their fun. Let them rant and rave at thin air, words full of sound and fury, signifying...nothing. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!"

Speaking of movies, Guardians of the Galaxxy starts this week. From the Whoniverse, I think it has Karen Gillian in it again. The first one was a real hoot. Don't like the green comic con chips though. Oh...also Vin Diesel and Sylvester Stallone...


I saw it on the weekend. It's a really good movie, we laughed all the way through (not because it was shit). If you liked the first one you'll love this - Drax and Baby Groot were hilarious all the way through (especially the beginning battle scene). Make sure you stay all the way to the end though, there are about 5 post credit/mid-credit sequences.

Speaking of movies, Guardians of the Galaxxy starts this week. From the Whoniverse, I think it has Karen Gillian in it again. The first one was a real hoot. Don't like the green comic con chips though. Oh...also Vin Diesel and Sylvester Stallone...

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!! Ignore them, spoil their fun. Let them rant and rave at thin air, words full of sound and fury, signifying...nothing. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!"


the only one ranting and raving is you joining the golden boy in the garden of shite.... dont you feel better now?

Avatar was the preachiest load of nonsense I think I've ever seen. I go to the movies to be entertained not sit through a three hour lecture about exploitation and tree hugging environmentalism. If I want to watch something like that I'll stay home and watch PBS.

I have to agree with both you and del37. I was wondering what all the fuss about it was. And there's going to be another two?!!!

Could never get into Avatar. And most 3D movies only have a lasting 3D effect for 30-40 mins before your eyes become accustomed to it. That's why you go Wow! at the start and, while the effect is still there, it's not as strong.

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!! Ignore them, spoil their fun. Let them rant and rave at thin air, words full of sound and fury, signifying...nothing. DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!"

And there's going to be another two?!!!

Another four! Apparently the demand for films that have good 3D but otherwise suck is high.

While there's lot of old examples, I find it interesting being told that Sci-fi still does that today. Can anyone give me any 2010+ examples from TV or movies.

Currently Supergirl does that. In the best ways. But that's just something you throw in to shows like star trek and supergirl. And i love that about them.

But im going to have to strongly disagree with RH there. While that's all well and good. Its just dressing, and mainly just pandering to it's forward thinking demographic and trying to show less forward thinking people their own biases might be false. (one could even argue that its almost like a bad apology - "see? see? look!! in the future we eventually stop discriminating against you!! we promise") Tangent aside, i think that type of dressing's heart is trying to be in the right place, and has the best of intentions, and i mostly approve. But all too often, it's just window dressing for some grand adventure story.

But I'd argue - that what makes truly great scifi, is things that challenge our thoughts and perspectives even more. When the MATERIAL itself (not just the dressing) actively pushes us to be more aware of our biases that we DONT recognize nearly so clearly. Many old DWs did this. Some new ones even do. Occasionally TOS did that. But as the later Trek series went on, it just seemed more like beating us over the head with the same lessons over and over again. (admittedly i met a racist who'd been reading xmen for 30 years and was pissed that it was becoming about the acceptance of diversity. i still dont know how he missed the message the first BILLION times) But for my money its more about...

Twilight zone & Black Mirror. That type of scifi gives us daring unexpected looks at ourselves, our societies, and where we might be headed. It challenges the way we accidentally do bad things. and the lies we tell ourselves. And i would argue that, THAT is what makes exceptional scifi.

This month's Monthly is up on VeeKay now.

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Another four! Apparently the demand for films that have good 3D but otherwise suck is high.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Yeah. Totally agree. The Twilight Zone really did a good job in creating another environment to teach us a lesson. Just look at Eye of the Beholder. What a lesson in...intergration, discrimination, races. Oh man!! If you've never seen the original 60's version, check it out. The 2001 is on YT, but good luck finding a complete 60's. (or just buy the dvd) The 2 revivals touched apon it, but not as good or direct.

Yeah. Totally agree. The Twilight Zone really did a good job in creating another environment to teach us a lesson. Just look at Eye of the Beholder. What a lesson in...intergration, discrimination, races. Oh man!! If you've never seen the original 60's version, check it out. The 2001 is on YT, but good luck finding a complete 60's. (or just buy the dvd) The 2 revivals touched apon it, but not as good or direct.

Can I suggest getting the blu rays of Twilight Zone? It polishes up brilliantly and the special features are great.

[QUOTE=Exterminate Me;3590139]This month's Monthly is up on VeeKay now.[COLOR="Silver"]

If it's not too much trouble, could someone who already has an account upload it for me here? I can't seem to sign up for VeeKay without using a phone number.

I'm able to get on V K but have absolutely no idea how you download the source. I don't see a download icon anywhere.

I'm able to get on V K but have absolutely no idea how you download the source. I don't see a download icon anywhere.

You'll have to use an extension. If you have Firefox, I suggest 'Flashgot'. Once installed, press play on it and then click the Flashgot icon.

Alternatively, there's a website that claims to be able to DL it. I haven't tested it, but give this a try: http://en.mediagetter.com/

You'll have to use an extension. If you have Firefox, I suggest 'Flashgot'. Once installed, press play on it and then click the Flashgot icon.

Alternatively, there's a website that claims to be able to DL it. I haven't tested it, but give this a try: http://en.mediagetter.com/

Actually, there's also vk downloader on the google store that I swear by:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D1%83-%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D 0%B5/joaplibfhijpjafmlkgjonfgldcmhhca?hl=en

It's an extension for Chrome. You'll see a download icon on each upload (be it video of audio) that you just click on and it downloads. Very simple.

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Yeah. Totally agree. The Twilight Zone really did a good job in creating another environment to teach us a lesson. Just look at Eye of the Beholder. What a lesson in...intergration, discrimination, races. Oh man!! If you've never seen the original 60's version, check it out. The 2001 is on YT, but good luck finding a complete 60's. (or just buy the dvd) The 2 revivals touched apon it, but not as good or direct.

I love all the great anthology shows. They, mostly, have a good moral for each story.

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Can I suggest getting the blu rays of Twilight Zone? It polishes up brilliantly and the special features are great.

I wish I had the money. I'd buy it in a flash.

Actually, there's also vk downloader on the google store that I swear by:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D1%83-%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D 0%B5/joaplibfhijpjafmlkgjonfgldcmhhca?hl=en

It's an extension for Chrome. You'll see a download icon on each upload (be it video of audio) that you just click on and it downloads. Very simple.[COLOR="Silver"]
That didn't work for me at all. Guess I'll have to wait for it to be shared where I can get it.

I'm in the same boat webs01 but as a consolation GOTG's MAD TITAN story is now on the bay for any fellow true believers

That didn't work for me at all.

That's a shame as I swear by it. It's very handy.

Anthology series are great. What are peoples favourites?
I've been watching Tales from the Crypt and The (new) Outer Limits for a while now. Tried Ray Bradbury, but a lot of his stories don't have any twist, just ended in a whimper.
Outside Sci-fi, love Hitchcock Presents.../Hour for good twists.
Least favourite would be Tales of the Darkside. Bit too horrific for my taste.
Any favourite anthology TV shows and episodes worth checking out?

Anthology series are great. What are peoples favourites?
I've been watching Tales from the Crypt and The (new) Outer Limits for a while now. Tried Ray Bradbury, but a lot of his stories don't have any twist, just ended in a whimper.
Outside Sci-fi, love Hitchcock Presents.../Hour for good twists.
Least favourite would be Tales of the Darkside. Bit too horrific for my taste.
Any favourite anthology TV shows and episodes worth checking out?

Have you tried Night Gallery?

Started to. They're kept in another hard drive somewhere.
I didn't like Tales of the Unexpected either. Being a bit pointless by the end.
Just watched a '85 Alfred Hitchcock presents, The Final Twist. Funny to see Hitchcock in a bathtub. You don't need much more horror than that. :-0

Anthology series are great. What are peoples favourites?
I've been watching Tales from the Crypt and The (new) Outer Limits for a while now. Tried Ray Bradbury, but a lot of his stories don't have any twist, just ended in a whimper.
Outside Sci-fi, love Hitchcock Presents.../Hour for good twists.
Least favourite would be Tales of the Darkside. Bit too horrific for my taste.
Any favourite anthology TV shows and episodes worth checking out?

I love them all. Haven't had a chance to watch any for ages though. One story that stuck in my mind (probably one of the 80's Hitchcock Presents) where a person (I can't even remember if it was a man or woman it was that long ago since I've seen it) is given a chance to escape from prison by an offer from an old man who looks after the the coffins of those who die (probably the undertaker), or whatever. He says to this person that she can get into a coffin, with a dead person and she'll be buried. The old guy promises that he'll dig this person up later, so that they can go free. The more I think of it, I think this person was a woman. So, later, she sneaks into a coffin and gets buries. Time passes and she's beginning to panic. So she flicks the lighter and finds who's in the coffin with her...

And, found the episode: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvk2ap_alfred-hitchcock-presents-1985-final-escape_creation

Of course there's Spielberg's Amazing Tales too.

I really must sit down and watch more.

Thank goodness they used colourised segments of the old Hitchcock Presents in that show. It was a bit disturbing that he was presenting a new show 5 years after he died. Though if anybody would do that it'd definitely be Hitchcock.

Thank goodness they used colourised segments of the old Hitchcock Presents in that show. It was a bit disturbing that he was presenting a new show 5 years after he died. Though if anybody would do that it'd definitely be Hitchcock.

Exactly. I'm sure there were still people who thought he was alive when they watched though. Remember, there are still people out there who confuse the characters people play as being the actual person. Hitchcock was a bloody genius though.

The latest monthly is up on the bay

Ruddy warbling quarks

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I know what you mean.

Quarks are rubbish monsters. They can't even walk up stairs.

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Anthology series are great. What are peoples favourites?
I've been watching Tales from the Crypt and The (new) Outer Limits for a while now. Tried Ray Bradbury, but a lot of his stories don't have any twist, just ended in a whimper.
Outside Sci-fi, love Hitchcock Presents.../Hour for good twists.
Least favourite would be Tales of the Darkside. Bit too horrific for my taste.
Any favourite anthology TV shows and episodes worth checking out?The short-lived Monsters wasn't too bad. The limited series NIGHTMARES AND DREAMSCAPES based off of King's short stories was pretty decent as well. The best was the episode featuring William H Macy.

Thanks Jez.

I love those ruddy warbling quarks.
They're delightful!

Thanks, Jez.

Speaking of Quarks, just came across this. Would be an interesting redesign if NuHu ever decided to brng them back. Certainly make them more menacing than those boxes with pinball flippers.

The victorian gentlemen have also arrived on ABB

Anyone who's interested and looking for something other than Medic audios to listen to I ran across a site that has downloadable copies of the CCB audio drama version of Stephen King's vampire story. http://www.sffaudio.com/bbc-radio-drama-stephen-kings-salem-lot-podcast/

Speaking of Quarks, just came across this. Would be an interesting redesign if NuHu ever decided to brng them back. Certainly make them more menacing than those boxes with pinball flippers.


They're good, but would be classed as Transformers by some. Just another robot. I guess they tried to replicate the success of the Daleks by keeping it square or non-human.
Considering that the birth of Doctor Who was based on flukes, we are very lucky to have what we got.
* Terry Nation only wrote The Mutants (or whatever we call that title!!!) after leaving his writing comedy duties with Tony Hancock. If Terry and Tony had got along well enough, The Mutants, as far as we know, would never had been written.

I guess they tried to replicate the success of the Daleks by keeping it square or non-human.
Considering that the birth of Doctor Who was based on flukes, we are very lucky to have what we got.The Pepperpots were a once in a lifetime phenomenon that just couldn't be replicated. They first tried with the giant mechanized Golfballs and they went over like a lead brick.

The Pepperpots were a once in a lifetime phenomenon that just couldn't be replicated. They first tried with the giant mechanized Golfballs and they went over like a lead brick.

Indeed.

I agree with WhoLover too. We've been lucky with flukes.

Thanks jez!

I, for one, love the quarks. I even named one of my budgies after them. I also named another one Xoanon. Yeah I'm a little bit obsessed.

Is anyone sharing the new Jago and Litefoot? it looks to be pretty good. Probably means that Omega Factor 2 will be the first release on monday since the Short trips were already released this moth from Big Finish.

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i see that Audiobook bay has posted it

http://audiobookle.com/audio-books/bf-jago-litefoot-series-13-paul-morris-jonathan-barnes-matthew-sweet-justin-richards/

Thanks Jez, Quarks rule!

Some of the first 2 seasons of 80s TZ hold up rather well. Great directors like Wes Craven and Joe Dante. With some stories by the likes of Ellison, Bradbury, Sturgeon, etc. (The 3rd season is produced by an almost completely different crew.)
There are other obscure attempts that also deliver. "Quiet Please" being a fav. The Ray Bradbury theater and Vonnegut's Welcome to the Monkey House are also worth looking into.
But this discussion was started looking for 2010+ scifi. So I will re-iterate...
Black Mirror is the best successor TZ has had in years, quite possibly ever. Even episodes that seem to fall flat, stick with me and make me ponder the world and myself, months and years later. (Admttedly, there's one that i thought sucked, but that's to be expected) But some episodes, like the "Waldo Moment" , are more insightful than they seemed upon initial viewing. I can"t recommend Black Mirror highly enough.

Quarks rule!

I can't see what's really wrong with quarks, I mean they are robotic, quite scary, move really slowly so that you can run away from them if need be.

there's nothing wrong with quarks in my opinion.


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Don't suppose anyone has come across Vol.2 of the Aviator of Next Week yet?

Thanks jez!

I, for one, love the quarks. I even named one of my budgies after them. I also named another one Xoanon. Yeah I'm a little bit obsessed.

That's cool.

One of my cats is named Lara, after Lara Croft, named by my son when he was young. Haven't thought to name animals from Who names though.

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Don't suppose anyone has come across Vol.2 of the Aviator of Next Week yet?

No, sorry. I've been looking, but we might just have to wait.

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Black Mirror is the best successor TZ has had in years, quite possibly ever. Even episodes that seem to fall flat, stick with me and make me ponder the world and myself, months and years later. (Admttedly, there's one that i thought sucked, but that's to be expected) But some episodes, like the "Waldo Moment" , are more insightful than they seemed upon initial viewing. I can"t recommend Black Mirror highly enough.

Great, that's the second enthusiastic response about Black Mirror that I've heard. I'd never heard of it at all until a few weeks ago, so I might just have to check it out. Thanks for the other recommendations too.

You can't get enough of these shows in my opinion. They really allow the writers, directors and all involved to try different things and, has been pointed out, address controversial or taboo subjects whilst being entertaining.

Great, that's the second enthusiastic response about Black Mirror that I've heard. I'd never heard of it at all until a few weeks ago, so I might just have to check it out. Thanks for the other recommendations too.

You can't get enough of these shows in my opinion. They really allow the writers, directors and all involved to try different things and, has been pointed out, address controversial or taboo subjects whilst being entertaining.

I wouldn't really call Black Mirror entertaining. It's horrifying, mostly in how plausible it all is (it's very much speculative fiction, rather than way-out scifi). Undoubtedly excellent, but not entertaining as such. Excellent like Jubilee was excellent, or like Midnight was. In much the same way, at that.

I have son and daughter, Ben & Tegan. :)

I wouldn't really call Black Mirror entertaining. It's horrifying, mostly in how plausible it all is (it's very much speculative fiction, rather than way-out scifi). Undoubtedly excellent, but not entertaining as such. Excellent like Jubilee was excellent, or like Midnight was. In much the same way, at that.

That's okay. It sounds up my alley.

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I have son and daughter, Ben & Tegan. :)

I named my son James, after both James Herriot (Alf Wight) and James Bond. Where are my Medic credits there?

I named my son James, after both James Herriot (Alf Wight) and James Bond. Where are my Medic credits there?

James Herriot Wrote All creatures great and small, Peter Davison Played Tristan Farnon in said tv adaption, as well as playing the medic.

Sean Connery played James Bond, His son Jason was in Vengeance on Varos.

Medic credits intact. Connection Established. :)

I knew a bloke who named his daughter Romanadvoratrelundar. I'm not bragging - he was a bit of a dick. I also knew a girl called Leela but she said she was named after an African goddess. I suspect her dad was a Doctor Who fan & her mum just told her that.

I knew a bloke who named his daughter Romanadvoratrelundar. I'm not bragging - he was a bit of a dick. I also knew a girl called Leela but she said she was named after an African goddess. I suspect her dad was a Doctor Who fan & her mum just told her that.

That's a brave man. Romana on it's own you could get away with.
I wanted to name my girl Nyssa but my wife didn't like it, but she liked Tegan, so we went with that.

We named our daughter "Abigayle Susan" - my wife didn't realize why I aggreed to Susan so quickly...

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The victorian gentlemen have also arrived on ABB

Anyone happen to know where would be a good place to find the full size covers?

I named my dog Adric. He was a skinny German Shepard, who was afraid of balls. Would never chase one. If one came near him, he would run away. But it was fair enough, they did seem to hit him when they got the chance.

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So I finally made myself listen to Absolution, the last with Eight's second C-named companion... what a horrible wretch of a production that is. Might be the absolute worst script for any of the audios I've heard, and that includes MiH...

Don't know if anyone knows this, but LC's HG classic about those guys in Luna is now available on that popular dock at the bay.
Surprising it's not available here.

Don't know if anyone knows this, but LC's HG classic about those guys in Luna is now available on that popular dock at the bay.
Surprising it's not available here.

The men in the moon by Wells has been on Audiobook bay for a while now...

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So I finally made myself listen to Absolution, the last with Eight's second C-named companion... what a horrible wretch of a production that is. Might be the absolute worst script for any of the audios I've heard, and that includes MiH...

Absolution was pretty bad -- the whole ending of the 8th Dctor and his Divergent arc companions really was rushed....

along with the Torchwood The Dollhouse ;Graceless and Charley Pollard 2 the spi-offs have really been lacking in substance and quality Big Finish may have stretched the rubber band too far

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So I finally made myself listen to Absolution, the last with Eight's second C-named companion... what a horrible wretch of a production that is. Might be the absolute worst script for any of the audios I've heard, and that includes MiH...

along with the Torchwood The Dollhouse ;Graceless and Charley Pollard 2 the spi-offs have really been lacking in substance and quality Big Finish may have stretched the rubber band too far

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLrVHM1kbo

Dis someone say QUARKS???

I actually enjoyed the play on Charlie's Angels - I found it very fun (and that's the original TV not the movie remakes...)

James Herriot Wrote All creatures great and small, Peter Davison Played Tristan Farnon in said tv adaption, as well as playing the medic.

Sean Connery played James Bond, His son Jason was in Vengeance on Varos.

Medic credits intact. Connection Established. :)

Phew!

https://indiemacuser.co.uk/2017/04/24/review-jago-litefoot-series-13/

Here for covers of Lago & Jitefoot

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I named my dog Adric. He was a skinny German Shepard, who was afraid of balls. Would never chase one. If one came near him, he would run away. But it was fair enough, they did seem to hit him when they got the chance.

That's hilarious!

How does everyone feel about the blatant use of the REG/GI photo to create the Warner image on the new JL cover(s)?

How does everyone feel about the blatant use of the REG/GI photo to create the Warner image on the new JL cover(s)?

If I only knew what REG/GI meant I could tell you!

It looks fine to me.

How does everyone feel about the blatant use of the REG/GI photo to create the Warner image on the new JL cover(s)?

I have no idea what that means, so don't really worry about it.

I assume GI stands for Great Intelligence.... It DOES look like him...

REG - Richard E. Grant? Definitely not him on the cover. Looks more of a Dickensian character to me.

Thanks for the heads up E.M. on Jarrgo Covers,
Cheers.

REG - Richard E. Grant? Definitely not him on the cover. Looks more of a Dickensian character to me.

Look at this image and compare it to Warner on https://www.bigfinish.com/img/release/bfpjlcd13_jago_and_litefoot_series_13_slipcase_sq_ cover.jpg.
It's exactly the same body & coat, just flipped and with the cane removed!

Oooh! yes I can see it now. That's cheating a bit. Not really worried too much about it though, as long as REG don't mind. ;)

Also heads up, just noticed the two gentlemen I upped were numbered wrong. Sorry. But not really my fault as I was just passing it on. :)

Or, I'm assuming they were numbered wrong and not titled wrong, as to what on LC site, as I haven't actually got round to listening to them yet. :(

Thanks Robot D84 for the generous response to quarks!

Welcome. :) I like quarks. And trains. oooooh! Quarks on a train. ;)

I can see it now.....

An old lady on the orient express sees a quark walking towards her menacingly, but nobody else can see it, she tries to point out to everybody that there is something trying to kill her, and for the next hour and a half everyone thinks she's mad until the quark reaches her and kills her. dun dun dun!!

Think it could be a two parter though!!! :)

timevortex you're right well spotted.
All LC covers must use a lot of shopped images though. I don't expect Louise would be to keen on wearing the savage outfit these days, and the curator would look a bit out of place on the cover of a 4th medic adventure.

timevortex you're right well spotted.
All LC covers must use a lot of shopped images though. I don't expect Louise would be to keen on wearing the savage outfit these days, and the curator would look a bit out of place on the cover of a 4th medic adventure.










Still some lookers out there :)

Also heads up, just noticed the two gentlemen I upped were numbered wrong. Sorry. But not really my fault as I was just passing it on. :)

Or, I'm assuming they were numbered wrong and not titled wrong, as to what on LC site, as I haven't actually got round to listening to them yet. :(

I noticed that as well so I did a quick scan through the files trying to avoid any spoilers but still getting enough info to work it out.
I think the titles are correct but the numbers in the filenames are wrong. However, the numbers inside the mp3 tags appeared to be correct though.
Hopefully if someone's listened through the whole thing they can also confirm this.

Look at this image and compare it to Warner on https://www.bigfinish.com/img/release/bfpjlcd13_jago_and_litefoot_series_13_slipcase_sq_ cover.jpg.
It's exactly the same body & coat, just flipped and with the cane removed!

Well spotted Sir!!!

Very creative of them I think. After all, an audio budget wouldn't stretch much to outfitting all, just for the purposes of a cover.

Still some lookers out there :)

https://ibb.co/mAVsT5

Still some lookers out there :)

I don't know, I was stuck on the second last picture for some reason! ;)

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https://ibb.co/mAVsT5

No. Just plain NO!!! That'll give me nightmares!

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Welcome. :) I like quarks. And trains. oooooh! Quarks on a train. ;)

I can see it now.....

An old lady on the orient express sees a quark walking towards her menacingly, but nobody else can see it, she tries to point out to everybody that there is something trying to kill her, and for the next hour and a half everyone thinks she's mad until the quark reaches her and kills her. dun dun dun!!

Think it could be a two parter though!!! :)

I like the sound of that. It'd be an improvement on their first appearance.

https://ibb.co/mAVsT5

LOL.

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I don't know, I was stuck on the second last picture for some reason! ;)


Really! how did that one slip through. ;)

Must be time for a Zero room joke!!!!

Must be time for a Zero room joke!!!!

Just make sure that's it's cleaned before AND after use, especially after!!!

Something's up with the costless mp3 site I was on there two days ago and there were lots of LC stuff: painted man, trail seeker lore, immortal scotsman, etc.I found my way there today and almost nothing shows up in a search and what lc stuff I do find you download it and it's a 25 second thing in russian or something audiodustoppy or something like that.I have a great deal of LC material on 2 external drives in mostly m4b, m4a and mp3 and I've been redownloading some things in mp3 so I can play them on my tv or would it be easier to download an audio file converter and convert my m4bs and m4as to mp3?Can external drives be connected to a blue ray or dvd player?What other devices can play off external drives besides labtops, desktops and tvs?Any help anyone please?

Something's up with the costless mp3 site I was on there two days ago and there were lots of LC stuff: painted man, trail seeker lore, immortal scotsman, etc.I found my way there today and almost nothing shows up in a search and what lc stuff I do find you download it and it's a 25 second thing in russian or something audiodustoppy or something like that.I have a great deal of LC material on 2 external drives in mostly m4b, m4a and mp3 and I've been redownloading some things in mp3 so I can play them on my tv or would it be easier to download an audio file converter and convert my m4bs and m4as to mp3?Can external drives be connected to a blue ray or dvd player?What other devices can play off external drives besides labtops, desktops and tvs?Any help anyone please?

A good audio converter would be all you need. I generally use Freemake audio converter (it's free).Just tick custom install and untick any software suggestion that may come up. http://www.freemake.com/free_audio_converter/

You should be able to connect any external drive to your Blu-ray or DVD player, provided they had a USB port. I find it's good to transfer a file to a USB thumb drive and plug that in to play things on my TV (through my Blu-ray player). They say that, if you're plugging in a decent sized drive (1TB or more) that it would be good if that drive had an external power supply.

Hope that helps some.

Just seen GOTG2. First movie in ages made me outright laugh and also make you care about the characters. Lots of Cameos too

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Also heads up, just noticed the two gentlemen I upped were numbered wrong. Sorry. But not really my fault as I was just passing it on. :)

Or, I'm assuming they were numbered wrong and not titled wrong, as to what on LC site, as I haven't actually got round to listening to them yet. :(


I noticed that as well so I did a quick scan through the files trying to avoid any spoilers but still getting enough info to work it out.
I think the titles are correct but the numbers in the filenames are wrong. However, the numbers inside the mp3 tags appeared to be correct though.
Hopefully if someone's listened through the whole thing they can also confirm this.

I just verified, they are NAMED correctly, just numbered wrong.

The proper numbering is:
13.1 - The gunk of Sleepscares
13.2 - Church of Evening
13.3 - Grass is always greener (or: "I wonder what the poor people are doing this season?")
13.4 - S#!T's Just Got Real!
13.x(5) - Xtras

Just seen GOTG2. First movie in ages made me outright laugh and also make you care about the characters. Lots of Cameos too

I quite enjoyed the first one. Looks like I'll enjoy this one too.

Does The Charley Series 2 have individual Covers?

Anybody Know Where To Get Them?

Thanks

I just verified, they are NAMED correctly, just numbered wrong.

The proper numbering is:
13.1 - The gunk of Sleepscares
13.2 - Church of Evening
13.3 - Grass is always greener (or: "I wonder what the poor people are doing this season?")
13.4 - S#!T's Just Got Real!
13.x(5) - Xtras


Thank you for that.

https://ibb.co/mAVsT5

Hahaaa! I'd love to print that and bring it to a convention for a signing

Hahaaa! I'd love to print that and bring it to a convention for a signing

Reckon Colin would see the funny side, he's good like that.

Hahaaa! I'd love to print that and bring it to a convention for a signing

You should do it....and get a photo of his face when you hand it over! 8)

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Just seen GOTG2. First movie in ages made me outright laugh and also make you care about the characters. Lots of Cameos too

Yeah, I thought it was fantastic....especially the opening few minutes....better than the first one. Very funny throughout.

Was nice in Guardians that the soundtrack played a major part of the movie. In the way that they recognized what was playing for the scene. Very creative. And baby Groot is a hoot.

Just so everyone can be aware of spoilers, the DW News Page has put a handy guide of how and when the episodes are broadcast across the world. I've tidyed this up. If you're in the UK, look for BST time for each country.

United Kingdom BBC One Sat 29 Apr 2017 7:20pm Britian Standard Time (BST)

Middle East BBC First Sat 29 Apr 2017 9:20pm AST (Sat 7:20pm BST)

United States of America BBC America Sat 29 Apr 2017 9:00pm EDT (Sun 2:00am BST)

Canada SPACES Sat 29 Apr 2017 9:00pm EDT (Sun 2:00am BST)

Finland YLE2 Sun 30 Apr 2017 11:00am EEST (Sun 9:00am BST)

Australia ABC Sun 30 Apr 2017 7:40pm AST (Sun 10:40am BST, also on ABC ME) Whovians ABC 2 8.30pm

Brazil SyFy Sun 30 Apr 2017 8:00pm BRT (Sun 11:00pm BST)

Latin America SyFy Sun 30 Apr 2017 11:00pm CDT (Mon 4:00am BST)

New Zealand PRIME Sun 30 Apr 2017 7:30pm NZST (Mon 8:30am BST)

Denmark DR3 Sat 13 May 2017 8:00pm CEST (Sat 7:00pm BST)

Just so everyone can be aware of spoilers, the DW News Page has put a handy guide of how and when the episodes are broadcast across the world. I've tidyed this up. If you're in the UK, look for BST time for each country.


Denmark DR3 Sat 13 May 2017 8:00pm CEST (Sat 7:00pm BST)


Wow, two weeks later, poor Denmark.

Well, back in 2010, ABC Australia didn't show it for 3 months. By which time, all the bootlegs had gone out to everyone.
Now, they actually extend their news bulletin by an extra 10 mins to accommodate the 46 min episodes (5 mins of ABC Shop online ads, news headlines and coming up afterwards. Not that that matters as we all switch over to Whovians on ABC 2).
However, the above guide is handy so folks don't start saying in ep 12 "boy, that was some regeneration. And into a woman/Kris Marshall/Patrick Stewart" before anyone else has seen it.

Well, back in 2010, ABC Australia didn't show it for 3 months. By which time, all the bootlegs had gone out to everyone.
Now, they actually extend their news bulletin by an extra 10 mins to accommodate the 46 min episodes (5 mins of ABC Shop online ads, news headlines and coming up afterwards. Not that that matters as we all switch over to Whovians on ABC 2).
However, the above guide is handy so folks don't start saying in ep 12 "boy, that was some regeneration. And into a woman/Kris Marshall/Patrick Stewart" before anyone else has seen it.Then cover your ears because boy have I got a spoiler for you. I couldn't wait to see the finale so I went forwards in time to watch it....and boy howdy was it a doozy. The Medic went one better than changing genders - he changed his entire species. He's now a Scot Terrier who wears a bow tie and a bowler. They even changed the name of the series to DOGTOR WHO. Next series is going to be a real howl.

LOL

I just verified, they are NAMED correctly, just numbered wrong.

The proper numbering is:
13.1 - The gunk of Sleepscares
13.2 - Church of Evening
13.3 - Grass is always greener (or: "I wonder what the poor people are doing this season?")
13.4 - S#!T's Just Got Real!
13.x(5) - Xtras

That's just great, now I have to listen to the series again. Oh well, if one must! ;-)

He's now a Scot Terrier who wears a bow tie and a bowler. They even changed the name of the series to DOGTOR WHO. Next series is going to be a real howl.

I did think it was a step too far to change the acronym to Terriers And Randy Dachshunds In Space though.

Feeling slightly generous today, so here's February book shares.

New Feb books. I've focused on the beginnings of DW fandom in Britain, Sydney & Brisbane and how we all survived "The Wilderness Years" of 1989 - 2005. Also the latest Brig book, spooky stories from the Darlek writer, etc...
List:
A House of Mirrors - Liz Hedgecock
Dimensions Behind the Twilight Zone A Backstage Tribute - Stewart T. Stanyard
Downtime - The Lost Worlds of Doctor Who
Lethbridge-Stewart Blood of Atlantis - Simon A Forward
Marc Scott Zicree - The Twilight Zone Companion
Moving Target (Elite Guardians Book #3) - Lynette Eason
Philosophy In The Twilight Zone
Remember Why You Fear Me - Robert Shearman
Richard Matheson's Monsters Gender in the Stories, Scripts, Novels, and Twilight Zone Episodes (Studies in Supernatural Literature) - June M. Pulliam
Whovian The True Story of BTR and Doctor Who
Zerinza Volume One
File:
http://tinyurl.com/ heovn55
Password:
TZ&DWfandom

Thank you Wholover

Thank you Who Lover! :)

Just so everyone can be aware of spoilers, the DW News Page has put a handy guide of how and when the episodes are broadcast across the world. I've tidyed this up. If you're in the UK, look for BST time for each country.

United Kingdom BBC One Sat 29 Apr 2017 7:20pm Britian Standard Time (BST)

Denmark DR3 Sat 13 May 2017 8:00pm CEST (Sat 7:00pm BST)


It's poor old Ernie, he's 83 years old, he takes the film canister from Aunty and gets on his bicycle and rides all the way to Denmark to deliver it.

So, Thin Ice thoughts. I did some extra prep by reading a Wikipedia article on the Frost Fairs which enhanced my viewing. The acting was superb. PC finally gets to act a gentleman (fisticuffs and all) and we see some lovely moral questions being asked by companion Bill. Except for trying to blow up the fish (was never sure why that was a goal), the two main characters stayed together for most of it, making it easier to follow for new viewers. The child's role was handled very well. Overall 8/10.

So, Thin Ice thoughts. I did some extra prep by reading a Wikipedia article on the Frost Fairs which enhanced my viewing. The acting was superb. PC finally gets to act a gentleman (fisticuffs and all) and we see some lovely moral questions being asked by companion Bill. Except for trying to blow up the fish (was never sure why that was a goal), the two main characters stayed together for most of it, making it easier to follow for new viewers. The child's role was handled very well. Overall 8/10.


Well the Frost Fair feature heavily in all of Doctor Who lore in prose and audio as well as in the TV show

the first Doctor took Steven and Vicki to one in Frostfire
the second Doctor took Ben and Polly to one in The Roundheads
the eleventh Doctor took River and Stevie wonder to one in a Good Man goes to war
the 12th said he was going to take Clare to one in The Caretaker

it is amazing we took this long to see one on screen.

another thought if we get another River song reference in any of the upcoming episodes -- i am almost certain she will be coming back for the Christmas Special.
in Mysterio ..the pilot and this episodes there have all been River Song callbacks.

I did think it was a step too far to change the acronym to Terriers And Randy Dachshunds In Space though.

They've dropped the S from the D word again, remember.

Just so everyone can be aware of spoilers, the DW News Page has put a handy guide of how and when the episodes are broadcast across the world. I've tidyed this up. If you're in the UK, look for BST time for each country.

That NZ time is wrong. NZ is ahead of UK, not behind: Sun 30 Apr 7:30pm was Sun 8:30am BST. So spoilers aren't spoilery for very long :)



Except for trying to blow up the fish (was never sure why that was a goal)
Nobody was trying to blow it up. Lord Sutcliffe was trying to blow up the fair, to give the fish a feast. The Doctor was trying to free the fish.

That NZ time is wrong. NZ is ahead of UK, not behind: Sun 30 Apr 7:30pm was Sun 8:30am BST. So spoilers aren't spoilery for very long :)



Nobody was trying to blow it up. Lord Sutcliffe was trying to blow up the fair, to give the fish a feast. The Doctor was trying to free the fish.

The guide follows Britain Standard Time, not the Time Zones. Most channels will only air the episode after 7pm, so some may be earlier, but won't air during the daytime. It really depends who gets night first, and as NZ is the start of the time zone, it's automatically last as night from the UK must follow to the USA first.
... Checked. It's right. New Zealand is 2 hours ahead of Australia. So, it being 5.38pm here, it is 7.38pm in NZ and 8.38am in UK. As last night showed. But it is in the last place (apart from Denmark) because it's furthest from the UK time zone. When really, they air the episode 2 hours before Australia because the time zone begins in NZ, not in the UK or USA. As we are 2 hours closer to the UK time zone, but not the first night in the time zone, Australia is placed above NZ.
However, you are correct that if all of UK goes to bed and don't talk about the episode until around 10am UK next morning, it should be safe. But, for those recording it, best to aim for a straight 24 hours after broadcast, just to be safe and polite to others.
Wibberly Wobberly Timey-wimey.
...I've got a headache...

And if you check right now, in 12 mins (from 11.48pm Monday in Eastern Australia, Hawaii will hit the last time zone at 12 midnight Sunday night/Monday morning...

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And spare a thought for poor EM who, being in Australia's West, has to wait an extra 3 hours after any Australian time mentioned.

And if you check right now, in 12 mins (from 11.48pm Monday in Eastern Australia, Hawaii will hit the last time zone at 12 midnight Sunday night/Monday morning...

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And spare a thought for poor EM who, being in Australia's West, has to wait an extra 3 hours after any Australian time mentioned.

Thanks. I do wait too, despite downloading the episode earlier. I gather that the ABC is still broadcasting the episode on iView just after it airs in the UK?

Yes, that's why they no longer air it in the early morning.

Slight correction to above. The NZ time zone should be called the International Date Line. Where each day starts from London time zone is Greenwich Mean Time.

Slight correction to above. The NZ time zone should be called the International Date Line. Where each day starts from London time zone is Greenwich Mean Time.

I used to do a podcast in which the members live in the Eastern States and Western Australia, various States in the US and in the UK. You can imagine the troubles we had to co-ordinate when we were recording. We even had guests on from Russia at one stage. It got even worse when each place would change for Daylight Savings.

I think I've confused everyone now... :-)

I think I've confused everyone now... :-)

DuH! run that by me again! think I nearly got it. ;)

I still get confused by Daylight Saving, which is rather strange as Queensland (Australia) doesn't have it here... Always trying to work out the 'live' summer broadcasts of tennis each year. Our 'live' or dst 'live' can be a bit tricky.

I still get confused by Daylight Saving, which is rather strange as Queensland (Australia) doesn't have it here... Always trying to work out the 'live' summer broadcasts of tennis each year. Our 'live' or dst 'live' can be a bit tricky.

Yep! didn't even have to duck to let that one go over my head... :)

I still get confused by Daylight Saving, which is rather strange as Queensland (Australia) doesn't have it here... Always trying to work out the 'live' summer broadcasts of tennis each year. Our 'live' or dst 'live' can be a bit tricky.

WA doesn't have Daylight Savings too.

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I think I've confused everyone now... :-)

Oh, I'm always confused. Nothing new.

"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day and hello all! I am back!

"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day and hello all! I am back!

Hi Jawa, good to see you back. Hope you're keeping well :)

"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day and hello all! I am back!


thank heavens i was wondering when trash return day was ...the golden gleam was back but then the smell returned as well

Hi Jawa, good to see you back. Hope you're keeping well :)

Thank you my friend, yes I am doing ok. glad to be back and life is returning to what passes as normal.

"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day!

Ouch! think it was TB but can't remember which story. Failed. :(

"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day and hello all! I am back!

Hi Jawa.
Glad to see you're returning to what passes for normal around here.

Oh. And "S#ADA".
(If I'm not mistaken. I only think I know because I re-watched the vid AND the web-animated fairly recently, and that rang a bell.)

Hi Jawa.
Glad to see you're returning to what passes for normal around here.

Oh. And "S#ADA".
(If I'm not mistaken. I only think I know because I re-watched the vid AND the web-animated fairly recently, and that rang a bell.)

Yes, that's it... May week is in june, etc..... Well done SBM.

Glad you're back Jawa. You're more than welcome here.

You're more than welcome here.

Here, here.

"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day and hello all! I am back!
Greetings :)

So, this week's DW is supposed to be scary. And yet, including Blink, I've yet to be scared yet by Nu-Who. Perhaps I simply don't like the soapy elements in the 2005+ series.
What about others? Any particular episode from the new (or old) series that has given you nightmares?

Not nightmares, but I found the gas mask child quite creepy and I did jump at Blink.

Most folks will probably say Blink is the scariest of the nu stories but I'd say Midnight is easily the scariest for me.

Most folks will probably say Blink is the scariest of the nu stories but I'd say Midnight is easily the scariest for me.

That's the one I was thinking of.

Not that I really get scared by what I watch. I used to get scared with the Classic series but, mind you, I was only a child with the Pert-wee and Bread maker years. Stuff like Pl@net of 3vil, giant m@ggots, the creepy Nurse in Zigons.

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"I'm confused....."
"so is the TARDIS"
trivia for the day and hello all! I am back!

Great to see you back...and front...and sides.

Most folks will probably say Blink is the scariest of the nu stories but I'd say Midnight is easily the scariest for me.See I'm in the minority when it comes to Midnight. I personally thought it was the worst episode of Series 4. I was bored watching it.

See I'm in the minority when it comes to Midnight. I personally thought it was the worst episode of Series 4. I was bored watching it.

Why did it bore you?

For me, I tend not to like stories that have, virtually, the one confined area but this episode had me riveted. I thought it was a good example of how to do a low budget episode. Actually, the thing that worries me was that kids would watch and then go around copying what everybody said and annoy the heck out of people.

Why did it bore you?
It just didn't hold my attention. I nearly turned it off the first time I watched it but kept watching hoping it'd get better....it never did. When I rewatch Series 4 I skip that one completely, I find it that unwatchable.

Not quite on the same subject, but I still can't see why Roberts of Death and Caves of Androzini are considered classics. I do get Caves a bit, but robots...nah, just don't get it. And I've read the book to try to understand. Is it liked by closet gays (not being offensive, I'm talking only about the attraction by some, of the villain at the end in makeup)? Or is the dialogue somewhat different and magical?

So what I am saying is that we Who fans are a pretty diverse lot when it comes to having favourites.

Not quite on the same subject, but I still can't see why Roberts of Death and Caves of Androzini are considered classics. I do get Caves a bit, but robots...nah, just don't get it. And I've read the book to try to understand. Is it liked by closet gays (not being offensive, I'm talking only about the attraction by some, of the villain at the end in makeup)? Or is the dialogue somewhat different and magical?


So what I am saying is that we Who fans are a pretty diverse lot when it comes to having favourites.

Both of which I love. I love the great design of Robots and the Robots themselves are well realised. The setting is different, both the planet and the Sandminer. And the dialogue is just fantastic, full of great one-liners, so quotable. L33la is well written for. I love the bits about body language. It's full of great actors too. The scenes where the Robots try to get into the bridge area. Dee84's sacrifice. Great music and sound effects (the visual effects are quite good too - the Robot's red-eye and the view in the bridge from the exterior of the model). In short, it's one of my favourites

BTW, there's a mistake in the book. Mr Dicks starts a conversation between characters, including one who has just been killed off.

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It just didn't hold my attention. I nearly turned it off the first time I watched it but kept watching hoping it'd get better....it never did. When I rewatch Series 4 I skip that one completely, I find it that unwatchable.

Fair enough. We all can't like everything.

...Is it liked by closet gays (not being offensive, I'm talking only about the attraction by some, of the villain at the end in makeup)?...

I'm assuming this is an attempt at humour.
But that actually is bloody offensive.
Seriously. Can we stop with the homophobic comments on here? There have been a few instances recently and it's just unnecessary

Fair enough and point taken. Didn't mean to offend and sorry if I had offended you or others personally. It was unfair to say that and as this is a forum concerning DW audio's and/or our love for the program, it was, admittedly, out of place.
Perhaps I'll watch those episodes again and try to understand it's appeal. Sorry again.

No worries.
I appreciate the apology x

Hi Jawa.
Glad to see you're returning to what passes for normal around here.

Oh. And "S#ADA".
(If I'm not mistaken. I only think I know because I re-watched the vid AND the web-animated fairly recently, and that rang a bell.)

Well done for the quick answer!
I would have also let you have the 4+1 Medics, as that footage was used in that too!

Now in the Grand Marvel Tradition, I present you with a "No Prize"!
use it wisely lol

Watched ep 1 & 2 of Roberts of Death. Yes, I do think the cosplayers of today would get a lot out of it. Some nice costumes, simular to the rich fashion of Blake's 7 Gambit. And the info tells me Borg played the 2nd Travis. Didn't know that.

Well done for the quick answer!
I would have also let you have the 4+1 Medics, as that footage was used in that too!

Now in the Grand Marvel Tradition, I present you with a "No Prize"!
use it wisely lol

Thanks!
I'll Non-cherish it not-always!

"Make Mine Medic!"

Watched ep 1 & 2 of Roberts of Death. Yes, I do think the cosplayers of today would get a lot out of it. Some nice costumes, simular to the rich fashion of Blake's 7 Gambit. And the info tells me Borg played the 2nd Travis. Didn't know that.

And the priceless bit where Borg knocks the baby jellies out of the medic's hand - "A simple 'no thanks' would have been sufficient"!

I'm not a big fan of Caves either to be honest. I've rewatched it several times to see what I was missing but I just didn't like it at all. Didn't like the main antagonist and wasn't a fan of that particular medic-companion combination (my opinion of that combo has vastly improved thanks to LC).

Midnight, however, I find chilling. I think it's the lack of true resolution to that story that haunted me. The identity of the villain, the final death, confined space. No real explanations. I was never one of those fans who ever found the classic series scary ( I mostly thought the pepper pots and potatoheads were loltastic).

This title is proving to be rather elusive,anyone had more luck than me?

I'm not a big fan of Caves either to be honest. I've rewatched it several times to see what I was missing but I just didn't like it at all. Didn't like the main antagonist and wasn't a fan of that particular medic-companion combination (my opinion of that combo has vastly improved thanks to LC).

Midnight, however, I find chilling. I think it's the lack of true resolution to that story that haunted me. The identity of the villain, the final death, confined space. No real explanations. I was never one of those fans who ever found the classic series scary ( I mostly thought the pepper pots and potatoheads were loltastic).

It just goes to show our wide and varying tastes. It's good to see the work LC has done though, I think there are a lot of people who feel like you do in regards to medic/companion teams, even various medics.

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This title is proving to be rather elusive,anyone had more luck than me?

No luck, sorry.

Not quite on the same subject, but I still can't see why Roberts of Death and Caves of Androzini are considered classics.

AS you can probably tell roberts of Dearth is one of my all time favourites, I've watched it more than any other episode.
I cannot pinpoint exactly what it is about it, it's a murder mystery in an enclosed environment, the costumes and the way all the robots are choreographed to walk exactly the same. I just love it.

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Dee84's sacrifice.


I got better :)

Interesting debate re Robots. It sort of raises interesting issues about how one views the old series. I love Robots - absolutely adore it because it takes me back to being 8 years old in 1977 and the excitement I felt - huge, huge excitement, of watching each episode of the show when I was that age. If I had never seen Robots before, and watched it for the first time now, in my late 40s - would it have the same effect on me? Almost certainly not. One of my favourite stories is Planet of the Spiders - I know it's not very good, it'll never feature highly on anyone's all time classic list, but i watched it spellbound as a 5 year old and have never forgotten that feeling. Earthshock's probably the ultimate example; adult me could rip it to pieces - the wafer thin plot, Beryl Reid's acting etc, but 13 year old me wouldn't stand for it, as it's one of my all time favourites. The excitement I felt watching the ep1 cliffhanger, as for so many fans, was epic. In short I find it hard to judge the old show fairly now that I'm a middle aged old dodderer!

I'm in the same boat as Big Mocha. Robots was one of the stories that little me recorded on tape to enjoy over and over. I must have sat there patiently holding this ancient tape recorder (which I can still vividly see in my minds eye) to the TV week after week. That tape had the worst sound quality, the sound was muffled, it had the voices of my mum and dad (now sadly long gone), it had my own breathing on it, but it was good enough for me to listen to endlessly so Robots is a sound track that I am intimately familiar with. I can't watch Robots now without a warm rush of memory and I can't do anything but love it.

Well it looks like the 4th Doctor gets his very own audio only companion....

Ann Kelso who joins the Doctor and a still in the box K-9 II [this will be set post invasion of Time and pre-Ribos] in the next two box sets of 8 stories in January and February 2019

The title of the Season with be an umbrella title The Syndicate Master Plan
4 2 part stories in each set


Let see if Big Finish can work magic with an audio only companion for the 4th Doctor like they did with Erimem;Evelyn;Hex;and Charley and Lucie among others

Happy Star Wars Day. Australian viewers can enjoy the Family Feud Star Wars special at 6.00pm tonight (EM is 3 hours behind, so still current for some) or 8am tomorrow morning.
Any other SW specials worth checking out?

Not the least bit Who related but I thought maybe some of you comic fans would get a kick out of my latest bit of artistic nonsense.Someone I was talking to about the upcoming Netflix series inspired me to make this.
http://jimg1972.deviantart.com/art/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Defenders-Comic-Cover-678677659

As for classic episodes that stick with you I'd say The Ark in Space was one that still holds up even after all these years. I remember it was the first full Who story I watched, this was back in the halcyon year of 1981 when Who first started airing on PBS, and it's one of the few classic era stories that can still really hold my attention, unlike the Potatohead and Tin Men stories that followed which seem kinda silly to me now.

New 12th Medic Audioread, "The Missing Advanced Science", can be found when rabbits walk quietly.

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Well it looks like the 4th Doctor gets his very own audio only companion....

Ann Kelso who joins the Doctor and a still in the box K-9 II [this will be set post invasion of Time and pre-Ribos] in the next two box sets of 8 stories in January and February 2019

The title of the Season with be an umbrella title The Syndicate Master Plan
4 2 part stories in each set


Let see if Big Finish can work magic with an audio only companion for the 4th Doctor like they did with Erimem;Evelyn;Hex;and Charley and Lucie among others

Very interesting. I wonder, is this an older companion? Mr Bread Maker has stated in the past of a fondness for an older companion (see how well he got on with Emilia Rumford in Bones of Stud and the old lady in the car in Deeds of Soom). Though, what with Six and Evie they may not want a repeat.

I quite like all the Classic series. One of my earliest memories of the medic is Planet of the Arachnids - I had nightmares of giant spiders for years afterwards. I do love it though - the Flowers for Algernon Tommy, the chanting, spider-web sleeping bags, Mike's redemption, the chases. Such memories.

Thank you agent619!!!
I saw a couple this morning in my yard to this was very appropriate.

I'm not a big fan of Caves either to be honest. I've rewatched it several times to see what I was missing but I just didn't like it at all. Didn't like the main antagonist and wasn't a fan of that particular medic-companion combination (my opinion of that combo has vastly improved thanks to LC).

Midnight, however, I find chilling. I think it's the lack of true resolution to that story that haunted me. The identity of the villain, the final death, confined space. No real explanations. I was never one of those fans who ever found the classic series scary ( I mostly thought the pepper pots and potatoheads were loltastic).

I always feel like a "false fan" because I don't see how CAVES wins "best of" awards... Sure, it's good, but I just don't feel it warrants it.
That MAY be because the cause of the Medic's demise seemed so irritatingly stupid ("oops. I stepped in cosmic poison ivy. Welp. I'm dead.") and the baddie had a disco-fever "Phantom of the Disco" costume/mask... sorry, I don't mean to rant.
Yes. The Medic is heroic and selfless and that alone makes it good, but I can't elevate it beyond that.

MIDNIGHT was, in fact, a bit of a gripping yarn (although far too many irritating characters - I was kinda hoping they'd all snuff it, actually).
I'd say it was a tense thriller, but not "scary" per se.

Just MY 2cent perspective. I've been known to be wrong.


I'm in the same boat as Big Mocha. Robots was one of the stories that little me recorded on tape to enjoy over and over. I must have sat there patiently holding this ancient tape recorder (which I can still vividly see in my minds eye) to the TV week after week. That tape had the worst sound quality, the sound was muffled, it had the voices of my mum and dad (now sadly long gone), it had my own breathing on it, but it was good enough for me to listen to endlessly so Robots is a sound track that I am intimately familiar with. I can't watch Robots now without a warm rush of memory and I can't do anything but love it.

That is a lovely, lovely and touching personal account.
Thank you for sharing.

I do love "ROBOTS" as well.


Well it looks like the 4th Doctor gets his very own audio only companion....

Ann Kelso who joins the Doctor and a still in the box K-9 II [this will be set post invasion of Time and pre-Ribos] in the next two box sets of 8 stories in January and February 2019

The title of the Season with be an umbrella title The Syndicate Master Plan
4 2 part stories in each set


Let see if Big Finish can work magic with an audio only companion for the 4th Doctor like they did with Erimem;Evelyn;Hex;and Charley and Lucie among others

I ALMOST thought they were going to give him... (warning; minor spoiler for "D3thR@s"): the talking chimpanzee..

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Not the least bit Who related but I thought maybe some of you comic fans would get a kick out of my latest bit of artistic nonsense.Someone I was talking to about the upcoming Netflix series inspired me to make this.
http://jimg1972.deviantart.com/art/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Defenders-Comic-Cover-678677659

As for classic episodes that stick with you I'd say The Ark in Space was one that still holds up even after all these years. I remember it was the first full Who story I watched, this was back in the halcyon year of 1981 when Who first started airing on PBS, and it's one of the few classic era stories that can still really hold my attention, unlike the Potatohead and Tin Men stories that followed which seem kinda silly to me now.

THANK you for that "Protectors" photo cover. A Shame there's no actual live-actor of Subby yet.

"ARK" is enjoyable! But I STILL can't look at colored bubble-wrap without a grin.
;-)

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New 12th Medic Audioread, "The Missing Advanced Science", can be found when rabbits walk quietly.

Many Thanks, Agent!
I almost didn't hear those sneaky rabbits.
(I'll have to try to nab it tonight. Cant do so at work. But wanted to say "Thanks".)

We have a Springer Spaniel that accidentally finds rabbits over the field,but when he looked this morning he found something equally rewarding for his master!!
CHEERS

Thank you agent619.

I think it's about time they gave old scarfie another companion. adds a fresh new approach with dilemma too as they could kill her any time, which they can't do with known companions.

I think it's about time they gave old scarfie another companion. adds a fresh new approach with dilemma too as they could kill her any time, which they can't do with known companions.

Very true! There's definitely an element of the unknown added, which is going to be refreshing. I'm looking forward to this series too.

I did like the twist they gave when the Savage "left" midway through the fourth audio series as it gave her a proper farewell speech with old Toothy/Curly she was denied onscreen.

erm not getting this rabbit thing, a little help for an old man please!!

We have a Springer Spaniel that accidentally finds rabbits over the field,but when he looked this morning he found something equally rewarding for his master!!
CHEERS

I hope you cleaned up after him!

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erm not getting this rabbit thing, a little help for an old man please!!

Reply With Quote back up in that post that mentions about 12 and rabbits.

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I think it's about time they gave old scarfie another companion. adds a fresh new approach with dilemma too as they could kill her any time, which they can't do with known companions.

Yes, I think it's very good. Just seen a picture of her and glad it's not like the casting for the TV series (nothing against Bill, I think she's great) - they've chosen someone a bit older. I like the unknown factor.

Thanks Agent619

I'm guessing Caves of Androzini is liked at #1 because we may have been informed that the 6th was going to take over before the story finished, and the end of ep 3 with PD death cry, some thought that was the moment (in next episode).
And how diverse is Doctor Who. According to the DWM poll, [checks...CB not hanging around...all safe to mention then :-)] Caves is the #1 show, and the very next story in the very next week, Twin D is the least fav at #200. And has remained there. Diverse indeed.

i just saw this weekend's episode a leaked copy from a friend.....and i think this one catapults itself right into the top 5 instant classic and that harken back to thiose Hinchcliffe era episodes that were loved yet complained about by certain white houses.... yet pretty equal on the empty child ;blink; midnight

Wait til you see this one AMAZING

any clue where your friend got his and i still don't get this rabbit gag?!?!?!?

any clue where your friend got his and i still don't get this rabbit gag?!?!?!?

Go back to the post that first mentions the rabbit.

Click on Reply with Quote to reveal something...

I don't think that could be any clearer.


Oh, and for those of you looking for the just released Wallace set, it's on vk.

I had seen a tweet (or a post or web-blurb, I don't recall) that had a link to DL a "leaked" version of the next episode, but I thought it was a trojan/clickbait ruse.
Either way, I thought; "It won't be the same quality of the actual ep", so I let it pass.

Interesting to find that it was authentic.

Now I wonder, might the (completely assumed by me) poorer quality HELP maintain an atmosphere conducive to a horror/haunted tale?
Sometimes, I find, a blurry, darker (bootleg? bad-transfer?) copy of a horror movie helps make it creepier.

Thanks for the nickle, here's three cents back.
This is MY 2 cents.
;-)

I had seen a tweet (or a post or web-blurb, I don't recall) that had a link to DL a "leaked" version of the next episode, but I thought it was a trojan/clickbait ruse.
Either way, I thought; "It won't be the same quality of the actual ep", so I let it pass.

Interesting to find that it was authentic.

Now I wonder, might the (completely assumed by me) poorer quality HELP maintain an atmosphere conducive to a horror/haunted tale?
Sometimes, I find, a blurry, darker (bootleg? bad-transfer?) copy of a horror movie helps make it creepier.

Thanks for the nickle, here's three cents back.
This is MY 2 cents.
;-)

there was nothing poor in quality in the picture or the copy you are making assumptions on no evidence. It looks like a broadcast quality copy. -- maybe just 10 seconds of credit snipped off at the end... as it cuts off right after the main cast members scroll

and i have no idea what link you are talking about but this was given to me friend who is a sound engineer ...and he was given an advance copy due the the special sound nature of the episode... binaural or something like that..... [he says you'll want to have headphones or suround sound on for this]

there was nothing poor in quality in the picture or the copy you are making assumptions on no evidence. It looks like a broadcast quality copy. -- maybe just 10 seconds of credit snipped off at the end... as it cuts off right after the main cast members scroll

and i have no idea what link you are talking about but this was given to me friend who is a sound engineer ...and he was given an advance copy due the the special sound nature of the episode... binaural or something like that..... [he says you'll want to have headphones or suround sound on for this]

No offense intended, and I even said that it was purely my assumption (of poorer quality) within my post.

As for where I saw the link post, I honestly don't recall.
I was skimming around and it registered in my eyes - enough for me to muse about its veracity (virus? bot? clickbait?) and quality (bootleg? leaked? etc), but not enough for me to linger upon it.

The surround-sound notice has been mentioned elsewhere, and now I know it's true.
I'll have to watch it twice then, once on the tele and then I'll rewatch on my laptop with headphones (or maybe first with headphones to get the full effect and then on the tele just to see on a bigger screen).

Thanks!

Go back to the post that first mentions the rabbit.

Click on Reply with Quote to reveal something...

I don't think that could be any clearer.


Oh, and for those of you looking for the just released Wallace set, it's on vk.

Please excuse my ignorance,but what is the wallace set?...Please enlighten a simple dimwit like myself,Thanks!!!

Please excuse my ignorance,but what is the wallace set?...Please enlighten a simple dimwit like myself,Thanks!!!

Damn, I knew someone would find that too obscure.

If you've heard the preview for the 9th Medic Chronicles you would have noticed that the person doing the 9th voice sounds uncannily like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit. So, yes, I'm referring to that 9th Medic set. On vk. Now.

I have searched the site but am only finding the covers for 9th Medico
What am i doing wrong?,please.

I have searched the site but am only finding the covers for 9th Medico
What am i doing wrong?,please.

Did you check your PM?

There`s normally a button that says download all
any ideas?

EM, would you be able to PM as well with that information?
Thank you!

There`s normally a button that says download all
any ideas?

At the end of each file you'll see three dots. Click on each one and choose the option to transfer to your music files. Then go to your music files and they'll be there, ready to download.

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EM, would you be able to PM as well with that information?
Thank you!

Done.

Actually to save me doing this for everyone, try Reading With Quite bright lights

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Thank you very much!

Thanks for link EM, but it keep asking me to sign up with a phone number, do you have to do that???

For anyone wanting to listen or download old LC episodes from VeeKay, here's a great site. For anyone wishing for alternate covers to the older 1-100 series, this site is also good for that.
https://m.vk.com/fansofdw

At the end of each file you'll see three dots. Click on each one and choose the option to transfer to your music files. Then go to your music files and they'll be there, ready to download.[COLOR="Silver"]


There are three dots (There are FOUR LIGHTS!!), yes... but clicking on them only produces a box that does...nothing.
Well.... actually, at the bottom of the track list is a command to "download all tracks", but if you click those three dot boxes, you can de-select that track and thus reduce the number of downloads.

A weird, reverse, counter-intuitive way of selecting your DL choices.
BUT... when you do select download, they don't GO anywhere (it was DLing forever with no change of status, or indication of location).

If I select the "+" sign at the end of the track, it sends me to the sign up page.

*sigh* VK used to be easy.

Thanks for link EM, but it keep asking me to sign up with a phone number, do you have to do that???
I attached it to my FB account since my FB account only has fake details anyway.
And thanks EM

There are three dots (There are FOUR LIGHTS!!), yes... but clicking on them only produces a box that does...nothing.
Well.... actually, at the bottom of the track list is a command to "download all tracks", but if you click those three dot boxes, you can de-select that track and thus reduce the number of downloads.

A weird, reverse, counter-intuitive way of selecting your DL choices.
BUT... when you do select download, they don't GO anywhere (it was DLing forever with no change of status, or indication of location).

If I select the "+" sign at the end of the track, it sends me to the sign up page.

*sigh* VK used to be easy.

I think you have to have an account with vk. As I do, I can transfer to my account using the method described. You can get an account doing it foru1's way.

Weird. I have an account there (and the downloader plug-in) and there's no way on either the original page or on the my music page to download anything.

Weird. I have an account there (and the downloader plug-in) and there's no way on either the original page or on the my music page to download anything.

I can't get anything to work in Firefox so I tried Chrome. Everything works fine now in Chrome.

Thanks Exterminate Me and Who Lover for the heads-up on these groups.

Finished Roberts of Death. I have to agree with the above posts, that, if this was the first time you saw it, and as a kid, it would leave a impact on you. Considering that Mandragura, Deadly Assasin and Talons had a lot of dark/night scenes, Roberts was a breath of fresh air with its gleaming corridors and shiny art Deco robots.
Did enjoy the mystery music. And I can imagine some parts were very scary in 1976.
It's popularity, I think, it being one of the first videos released helped somewhat. While us Aussies got lots of repeats, it was a one show only in the UK, so guessing sales and repeated viewing via video paid into that somewhat.
It is different for sure. Still reminds me of Blake's 7 in its glamour, the style of sets and direction.
Has it changed my opinion? It's made me more aware of why this is considered one of the top 5, but it's never going to be my favourite.

Next episode to analyse...The Nightmare of Edden...

* if you've seen (ex Mythbusters) The White Rabbit Project, I'm doing something simular, using 3 basic critetia.
1) Viewing it during original broadcast with kids and adults.
2) What are the aspects that make it popular/unpopular.
3) Has my opinion changed about it?
Feel free to join me...

There is a new design for the Tin Doghttp://images.doctorwhonews.net/image.php?pid=24528Apparently it's for a new film being produced by Bob Baker and the guys behind the Aussie series and will feature the dog facing off against the anti-matter timelord.

That's also the design used for the Australian TV series produced a few years ago and available on DVD. One season only. The movie was announced a while back, but it seems unlikely that it will ever actually happen.

The partially visible poster in the background is promoting a book by one of Bob's partners on the TV series. Crowdfunded but also, at least briefly, available as signed copies from a UK store, which is how I got my copy. Badly written, unedited, horribly laid out, but it's the only book dealing with that particular TV series we're likely to get.

ETA: I just saw what appeared to be a new article using that picture. I'm inclined to think it's recycled from an older article, but who knows.

Slightly off topic - does anyone have a digital copy of the five issues of the Medic What Classics (Series 5) comic from an Independant Devious Witness Publishing?

Medico #9 @ ABBay

So going back to previous posts, how about Robots with Quarks on a train. :)


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Medico #9 @ ABBay

Yup, Who ever andyo is, is a big hero of mine.

Just read on LC's site that they're doing a continuation of Burning Trees with a series of stories following MD! This is something I was waiting to see if LC would do since they announced that they had the license to do Burning Trees in the first place! :D

Saw that article. Also read that RTD signed off on it and gave LC his full blessings on the project.

Thank you very much for those, Robot. But listening, I was struck by a great idea. Make CE & BP listen to them and those terrible impressions. They'll be off to LC studios in a shot.

Watched ep 4 Knock Knock. Okay, but thought the acting was a bit wooden... :-)

Chapeau Robot D84.

Was totally disappointed by episode 4. It started out good, had a real creepy horror vibe going but fell flat on it's face with that dreadful ending. Hopefully next week's Zombies in Space episode is better.

Really enjoyed the new episode. I've been going in blind and I've been pleased with the whole season so far. Shame they put who is so obviously in the vault in the trailer :P

Shame they put who is so obviously in the vault in the trailer :P


Yeah! Obviously.... UH! Who???

I was going with Mr or Mrs. But I thought that would be too obvious, but what do I know?

Read an interesting theory that the music played in the vault (half a pound of tupenny rice) is the standard music for a Jack in the box. Though I doubt it will be "the face".

Read an interesting theory that the music played in the vault (half a pound of tupenny rice) is the standard music for a Jack in the box. Though I doubt it will be "the face".

And don't forget that the name Jack is often used for boys/men who's real name is John......Simms? Barrowman? 8)

I think you're overthinking the importance of the tune. I think it was more about how the tune was played than the tune itself, but yeah ... I think it's John Simm in there (but only because it was leaked that he's coming back).

Read an interesting theory that the music played in the vault (half a pound of tupenny rice) is the standard music for a Jack in the box. Though I doubt it will be "the face".

The music played on the piano in the vault was:

Beethoven’s F�r Elise. (the first tune played)

Some music boxes do use it, but Jack-In-The-Boxes usually use "Pop goes the weasel" (which was the second tune played).

(All around the mulberry bush, the monkey chased the weasel, the monkey thought twas all in fun, POPP goes the weasel) (which seems to have lyrics in the UK about tuppeny rice, and a cobbler's bench elsewhere).

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Watched ep 4 Knock Knock. Okay, but thought the acting was a bit wooden... :-)

Ba-dum-bum!
Don't forget to tip your waitresses, folks!

I dont suppose any one has the latest HG W�ll$ story?

I dont suppose any one has the latest HG W�ll$ story?
I was wondering that, too. I've just been a bit too busy to bring it up.

My Vault theory. As we know, in S9, Moffat and crew kept Daveos a secret from everybody and got naughty smacks, even by DWM (would never happen in JNT's time) for not allowing a sure headliner be known to increase and boost the ratings.
According to the press report in DWM, this time, realising the huge mistake from last season, they told the media about John Simm and asked to keep it a secret...and it all appeared in the papers the next day. "Ouch!!", they said. "Quick, let's release a trailer with John in it". Even though it was all filmed, (they did all of Simms scenes in total secret), they really had no choice. They had already teased us with Mondasian Cyberfolks, remembering the mistakes of last season. But now, they had to give this secret out before they were made fools again.
Pop goes the weasel used for Jack in the Box is a good fit for Jack/John.
Then again, we could all be wrong and it turns out to be Susan (who has been strangely name checked three times already).

Finally got round to listening to the two gentlemen today. Thought they were very good, then I had a sudden wish for them to appear in one medic episode, ala SJS. How cool that would be, Moff missed a biggy there.

Another thing that's slightly bothering me with Vault theories is the food the Doctor had. This is what was said:
Nardole looks at the 2 bags of food and says "I'm actually not that hungry". Doctor replies "Well, I am". "Obviously" is the reply.
It's a bit of a far stretch, but, perhaps what the Doctor was referring to is another past (William Hattnell) or future Doctor. If his intention was to share it with the prisoner, would he have replied "Well, WE are". If, by saying, well I Am, he might, might be addressing his two seperate selves. And in the Vault is actually the 13th Doctor Kris Marshall. (who will finally be young and ginger).
However, that goes right against what was said regarding children being tortured, etc. So it's still more than likely the John Simms Master. (perhaps Missy is really the Rani, but then DWM would not have put the special out detailing the Master history).

River and Susan have been been either name checked or referenced in almost every episode this year....i really hope they kept some secret because a surprise cliffhanger with one of these ...leaves plenty of time for promoting either the next week or the Christmas episode....

Doesn't fit in with the gleeful playing of the 2nd song at the mention of children being eaten, but the 1st has a new point...
Fur Elise = for sweetheart = for…. Sweetie?
Hello Sweetie...
Shhh...spoilers... :-)

My Vault theory. As we know, in S9, Moffat and crew kept Daveos a secret from everybody and got naughty smacks, even by DWM (would never happen in JNT's time) for not allowing a sure headliner be known to increase and boost the ratings.
According to the press report in DWM, this time, realising the huge mistake from last season, they told the media about John Simm and asked to keep it a secret...and it all appeared in the papers the next day. "Ouch!!", they said. "Quick, let's release a trailer with John in it". Even though it was all filmed, (they did all of Simms scenes in total secret), they really had no choice. They had already teased us with Mondasian Cyberfolks, remembering the mistakes of last season. But now, they had to give this secret out before they were made fools again.
Pop goes the weasel used for Jack in the Box is a good fit for Jack/John.
Then again, we could all be wrong and it turns out to be Susan (who has been strangely name checked three times already).

Or another Jack.....Jackie Lane. As Dodo she was dumped by the Doc in the War Machines.....Susan was dumped by the Doc as well...So there's a connection.

Dodo might be really pissed off by being dumped, has held a grudge all that time, and gone on a killing spree wiping out all children that she thinks are potential companions for the Doc! Hence the glee at the thought of dead kids.

As if........8)

Fur Elise = for sweetheart = for…. Sweetie?


Fur Elise = Furry Lisa = Furry Lisa Bowerman. Conclusion, it's the cat people from Survival.

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Or another Jack.....Jackie Lane. As Dodo she was dumped by the Doc in the War Machines.....Susan was dumped by the Doc as well...So there's a connection.

Dodo might be really pissed off by being dumped, has held a grudge all that time, and gone on a killing spree wiping out all children that she thinks are potential companions for the Doc! Hence the glee at the thought of dead kids.

As if........8)

I like it!

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Fur Elise = Furry Lisa = Furry Lisa Bowerman. Conclusion, it's the cat people from Survival.

Yes!

I'm going to be boring and guess Missy's Master.

I'm going to be boring and guess Missy's Master...

...bater

1500 pages yay

Or another Jack.....Jackie Lane. As Dodo she was dumped by the Doc in the War Machines.....Susan was dumped by the Doc as well...So there's a connection.

Dodo might be really pissed off by being dumped, has held a grudge all that time, and gone on a killing spree wiping out all children that she thinks are potential companions for the Doc! Hence the glee at the thought of dead kids.

As if........8)

Dodo wasn't dumped by The Doctor. He waited for her to show up before leaving & she sent him a message to say she wasn't coming.

I have no theory about the vault.

1500 pages yay

Very observant! Yay!!! :)

1500 pages yay

Just thought I'd get in on the act. :)

1500 pages yay
Awww!
I remember it when it was just 6 pages old

Awww!
I remember it when it was just 6 pages old

Oh, and remember when it had the terrible twos? So many temper tantrums!

Oh, and remember when it had the terrible twos? So many temper tantrums!

Unfortunately it's now a stroppy teenager ...

I'm not sure if anyone can help me with this. But I just found out that *J*i*m* F*r*e*n*c*h *I*m*a*g*i*n*a*t*i*o*n T*h*e*a*t*r*e closed down in March and you can no longer purchase CDs or MP3s of the shows. Does anyone know if there is somewhere to download them. In particular I am after shows from 750 on wards

Its very sad as they ran for 21 years.

Thanks

Unfortunately it's now a stroppy teenager ...

Yeah, that's the problem, unfortunately ;)

The JS leak came from them putting him in the trailer, not the other way around. I don't think SM was aware that the editors had put him in from the comments he made after the premiere. Reminds me a bit about what infamously happened in 2006 at the Baftas.

I'm not sure if anyone can help me with this. But I just found out that *J*i*m* F*r*e*n*c*h *I*m*a*g*i*n*a*t*i*o*n T*h*e*a*t*r*e closed down in March and you can no longer purchase CDs or MP3s of the shows. Does anyone know if there is somewhere to download them. In particular I am after shows from 750 on wards

Its very sad as they ran for 21 years.

Thanks

That's very sad news. I had known of his illness for some time, and they stuck it out to complete the original canon. But the further adventures were all over the place, with episodes no longer available, sequels being done to prequels no longer in existence and a weekly schedule that, due to their ill health, was never consistent.

As far as audio's go, I have the SH collection that I brought for myself to air on radio, but always found the new single episodes never available via download except through the YT channel. I couldn't buy and support what was never available.
In the end, the whole company centred on just 4 people, producing, editing, writing and performing everything on a weekly basis. But when ill health happens, you've got to end on a high.
The SH Mystery Magazine is also due for the chop, with fewer contributions and fewer sales. The only SH item going strong (that I currently buy) is the 2 issues of MX series publications of which the 2017 annual will be available this month (May).

As far as your original question, the weekly CDs, downloads and sales have all been suspended. But, I'm guessing that items like the original canon may be available from other retailers in the future, simply for the work involved in completing it. 8 best of shows are on YT (2 unfortunately the same). And that's all folks...

The JS leak came from them putting him in the trailer, not the other way around. I don't think SM was aware that the editors had put him in from the comments he made after the premiere. Reminds me a bit about what infamously happened in 2006 at the Baftas.

Read DWM. :) He goes into a lot detail about how it was it was originally edited and why they didn't hold it back until the actual episode.

NM. Nothing to see here. Please move along.

NM. Nothing to see here. Please move along.

Oh, drat. Now I can't rest - I can't move along!

Oh, and remember when it had the terrible twos? So many temper tantrums!
Hey, my nephew's 2, and he's not that bad! Not all the time, anyway... :D

My theory about the vault is that it's Susan. As already pointed out she has been mentioned and her photo shown. Bill calls the medic Grandfather, which I think is a cheeky reference and then there is the nursery rhyme. One verse goes "Up and down the city road
In and out the Eagle". The City Road and the Eagle pub are very close to Shoreditch, the site of a certain school and junkyard.

Hey, my nephew's 2, and he's not that bad! Not all the time, anyway... :D

Yeah, my sons weren't that bad when they were two, it's just when they became teenagers onwards that it became a different matter...

Read DWM. :) He goes into a lot detail about how it was it was originally edited and why they didn't hold it back until the actual episode.

Hard to find DWM in print here these last couple of years. Wouldn't mind having it explained to me though. :) *wink wink, nudge nudge*

I thinks its the Doctor 2.5 in the vault, that faulty scarecrow regeneration or maybe its Missy in her Aunt Sally phase.

R.I.P. Catweazle, loved that show when I was a kid and keeping the Worzel theme, Jeffrey Bayldon was the Crowman.