Are you looking forward to November 23rd? Of course you are!

That's because it's... One Direction Day (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/24381472)


One Direction have announced plans for a day of continuous live streaming, giving fans from all over the world chance to interact with them. 1D Day will feature sketches with the band, special guest appearances and fan-generated videos.

It's set for 23 November to coincide with the release of the band's new album Midnight Memories...

#savetheday

Happy Daylight Saving Time to most of Australia today. Except Queensland and Western Australia. (Yay!!!) Adjust clocks and countdowns where needed.

does anybody happen to have a copy of weel of eyes a 2nd medic audio read by his son, I have been trawling through this site back to august last year and found alieonicfreak's original post of it, but as i had already guessed it's long gone now :-(

Look in "Books", at the other place. Fourth post.

Bloody slackers, is what I say. Accept no excuses. We want Blokes now!

Which, coincidentally, is also the war cry of the Frustrated Northern Slapper On The Pull...

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I am laughing so hard at the fact that that nobody one-off character was chosen to be the big-bad. His story was TOTALLY over. There was no way *at all* for him to become any sort of villain. And what is his whole motivation by the way? I was given an opportunity to do great things and then I blew it. YOU WILL ALL PAY!!

And no, sadly the B and/or Moff have pretty much nothing to do with it. IDW can do anything they want with it, such as the Star Trek crossover.

I actually figured it out a couple of issues ago. Still crap, though!

I still remember when there was fan theory that that character would somehow evolve into Dave-Ross, just because of the 'implant' in his nut!!

And I kinda figured IDW had free range to plunder when they used Grayce in the 8th Medic issue - one of THE most Verboten characters in Whodom, due to 'rights issues'...

Real news? Or real bull?

106 Doctor Who episodes uncovered in Ethiopia featuring William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/106-doctor-who-episodes-uncovered-2343474)

Real news? Or real bull?

106 Doctor Who episodes uncovered in Ethiopia featuring William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/106-doctor-who-episodes-uncovered-2343474)

to quote Barnabas Collins (yes, i'm aware that this is a thread for DW not DS): "To hope and to wait are two of life's most rewarding virtues."...that being said, i'm calling BS.

Real news? Or real bull?

106 Doctor Who episodes uncovered in Ethiopia featuring William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/106-doctor-who-episodes-uncovered-2343474)

I remember an interview with some of the old 1st and 2nd gen companions where they said that it was lucky that so many episodes were lost, because fans have managed to blow them so far out of the scope of the original show that the actual episodes would just be a disappointment.

That said, if 100+ episodes were actually recovered, that would be really great.

To throw a cat amongst the pigeons, are we being sold another serve of; "Old episodes found in a garage" [which turns out to be a large number of canisters containing already existing and known episodes], that, when revealed in a few months time, ends up as better copies of, or foreign language versions of, ones that have been released.... they can't always be "The Lion" in Arabic......
And none of the rumours or stated stories state whether the 'hoard' is tape or reel [images of old reels usually being shown].
Remembering that broadcast 'tapes' in the 60's and 70's were 10-15 minutes long and that would mean 2 tapes per episode, 8-24 per story, depending on length... Evil of the Daleks + The Dalek Masterplan would be 40 tapes or 20 movies reels [for stations which used reel to reel broadcast] 106 is not a lot of stories..... in 1968 the broadcast of the cricket test match from Lords used 132 tapes for domestic replay and 40 reels for overseas release.
We forget how much satellites have changed things.

There is quite a bit of confidence from a couple of people over on GB who feel that around 90 have been located. There is no verifiable proof, but I remain hopeful for that large return. The fact that it has been discussed for over 6 months without any kind of resolution is frustrating, but the people who feel they are in the know are also setting a short time frame for the announcement. If it passes with no word, it will be easier to dismiss their information. I am growing very tired of "there was a hiccup at the last minute" which really does come across as someone being played along.

I think the sons of gallifrey idea could work if it takes place off of gallifrey. Two tls exploring the universe in a (gasp) functioning capsule that get drawn into adventures where they have to decide whether or not to intervene. I'd give it a shot.

We should set a date for the missing episodes to appear. If we don't see them by then, we simply stop discussing it regardless of new rumors, news articles, or "my friend who works at the beeb showed me...".

Look in "Books", at the other place. Fourth post.
thankyou mr greenfingers, i was lost, now i am found

We should set a date for the missing episodes to appear. If we don't see them by then, we simply stop discussing it regardless of new rumors, news articles, or "my friend who works at the beeb showed me...".

We've tried not talking about it, but somebody insists on bringing it up every couple of weeks or so. Personally, I think it's all bs and I'll believe it when we see an official announcement from the beeb and not before.

We should set a date for the missing episodes to appear.

Yeah. November 23rd... Then I start losing hope...

We've tried not talking about it, but somebody insists on bringing it up every couple of weeks or so. Personally, I think it's all bs and I'll believe it when we see an official announcement from the beeb and not before.


Ooops! Sorry.

Totally off-topic, but if you haven't yet done so, try and take yourself off to see Gravity - preferably in 3D and on the biggest screen possible. It's superb, gripping, beautifully shot and somehow manages to be both mind-blowingly huge and claustrophobically intimate at the same time. HIGHLY recommended...

Ooops! Sorry.

Hang your head in shame and go sit on the naughty step :)

Happy Daylight Saving Time to most of Australia today. Except Queensland and Western Australia. (Yay!!!) Adjust clocks and countdowns where needed.

I'm in WA and I'm happy we don't have daylight savings here. We have enough light in the evenings here without changing the time so that the sun's going down at midnight (and, after getting up when it's dark during a lot of the year, my wife finally has daylight when she gets up in summer).

Oh, I'd love you to have our Premier - the one we have is a dick-head. Please take him, please!

Hang your head in shame and go sit on the naughty step :)

That's where one of my many emergency stashes of beer is. (It's only the cheap stuff. So that's punishment enough.)

I'm in WA and I'm happy we don't have daylight savings here. We have enough light in the evenings here without changing the time so that the sun's going down at midnight (and, after getting up when it's dark during a lot of the year, my wife finally has daylight when she gets up in summer).

Oh, I'd love you to have our Premier - the one we have is a dick-head. Please take him, please!

I always remember the state government pushing so hard for daylight savings over here. It was a combination of funny, pathetic, and annoying. First they tried it for one year, and held a poll. It was voted down. A few years later, they tried it for three years, possibly on the rationale that if we had it three times we'd learn to cope with it. No such luck. Voted down once again. We're three hours behind in the summer and we like it that way!

On premier news, Prince Harry was in the state today, I believe. He got to talk with our premier for half an hour. I'm not the biggest fan of royalty, but that's just cruel. Still, could have been worse. Could have been the PM.

I'm in SA, and I bloody HATE Daylight Savings, especially now it goes on even longer, if for no other reason than it means summer's coming (I'm very much a winter person, so, boy do I live in the wrong country)...

I think we've got one of the better Premiers here, but then we hardly hear about him (good thing in itself), so who knows. At least he's not one of Abbott's cronies...

Anyway, off to sleepy-bobos - thank Rassilon* it's a public holiday tomorrow!!


* See how I cunningly slipped in a Medic reference there, so my post isn't *completely* off topic??!! :D

This i s a long shot but does anyone know where i can find the 2 documentaries from the bluray release of S*P*E*A*R*H*E*A*D* from S*P*A*C*E?

a d*and*y and a c*low*n and Carry on: The life of C*a*r*o*li*ne J*o*h*n?

thanks

* See how I cunningly slipped in a Medic reference there, so my post isn't *completely* off topic??!! :D

Well done sir, thou art surely The Master.

thankyou mr greenfingers, i was lost, now i am found

Alas, a clueless wretch like me can only wait for the ice to come round again. None other.

MEDICS FATE 1*0 DOOMS BARGAIN


Download DESTINY 10 DEATH'S DEAL.mp3 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/b8bc8g)

Thanks Goldie:)
Its all getting a bit exciting again with the news today. DWO tweeting they HAVE been found makes my fan heart skip a little if true.

Crikey. That rumour again? I'm with andyb2011 - I'll wait for the official announcement.

Amazing actually how fast this year went - it's barely a month until the 50th anniversary.

I'm sleep deprived so this might be unwise, but... Where is this Other Site? (puppy eyes)

DWO would appear to know something about all this from their twitter feed this afternoon ...



There is definitely some misinformation with the #DoctorWho Missing Episode rumours in todays @DailyMirror. We will finally break our...

http://tinyurl.com/m5ygle9

....silence on subject by saying missing episodes HAVE been found and some official news will be released within the next month! #Yay!

http://tinyurl.com/mv87tpu

Just to add a bit of oil to the flames the Radio Times website have posted this

Doctor Who: newly discovered missing episodes to be released for sale this week | Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-10-06/doctor-who-newly-discovered-missing-episodes-to-be-released-for-sale-this-week)

Life, Doctor Who & Combom: Radio Times: Two Missing Episodes to be Released This Week! (http://www.combom.co.uk/2013/10/radio-times-two-missing-episodes-to-be.html)

Again ... no proof. Just rumour and supposition. :(

If the missing episode news is true, and I believe it is, huge props to Foe.

It's in the Radio Times - they really wouldn't print it unless they were 100% sure
Doctor Who: newly discovered lost episodes to be released for sale this week | Radio Times (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-10-06/doctor-who-newly-discovered-lost-episodes-to-be-released-for-sale-this-week)

The Mirror is also saying they have been invited to a press conference by BBC Worldwide
Long-lost Doctor Who episodes to be unveiled THIS WEEK by the BBC - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/long-lost-doctor-who-episodes-unveiled-2345526#.UlG4dDRZ2OI.twitter)
Which is vastly different to the vague story they (or The People) ran this morning.


If the missing episode news is true, and I believe it is, huge props to Foe.
Indeed :)

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god if they are released through iTunes. Better save some money for this week.

I am tremendously excited to hear any news related to lost episodes being found and Patrick Troughton being the Medic in them.

Totally off-topic, but if you haven't yet done so, try and take yourself off to see Gravity - preferably in 3D and on the biggest screen possible. It's superb, gripping, beautifully shot and somehow manages to be both mind-blowingly huge and claustrophobically intimate at the same time. HIGHLY recommended...

"See it on the biggest screen you possible can" seems to be THE line in reviews for this one. Which is exactly what they'll say about the restored Underwater Menace.

I'm in SA, and I bloody HATE Daylight Savings, especially now it goes on even longer, if for no other reason than it means summer's coming (I'm very much a winter person, so, boy do I live in the wrong country)...


Come to the prairies of Canada, where winter lasts 6 months of the year, it gets dark at about 4:30pm, and the temps can hit minus 40 - and that's not including the wind chill. Guaranteed to cure anyone of being a winter person. :)

Re: daylight savings - I'd happily sacrifice one hour from the REALLY long summer days to make winter one hour less dank and dreary.

daylight savings neeeds to screw itself! i really hate that crap

Totally off-topic, but if you haven't yet done so, try and take yourself off to see Gravity - preferably in 3D and on the biggest screen possible. It's superb, gripping, beautifully shot and somehow manages to be both mind-blowingly huge and claustrophobically intimate at the same time. HIGHLY recommended...

i agree it is great! i really hope it makes it to the oscars!

So we should see or hear something this week? Promise?

God, I friggin' hope so...

I want you all to think about the future for a moment.

Half a generation from now, "The Kids" will not know that there had ever been missing episodes.

...Bastards.

I want you all to think about the future for a moment.

Half a generation from now, "The Kids" will not know that there had ever been missing episodes.

...Bastards.

that'd be great aint it?

I always remember the state government pushing so hard for daylight savings over here. It was a combination of funny, pathetic, and annoying. First they tried it for one year, and held a poll. It was voted down. A few years later, they tried it for three years, possibly on the rationale that if we had it three times we'd learn to cope with it. No such luck. Voted down once again. We're three hours behind in the summer and we like it that way!

On premier news, Prince Harry was in the state today, I believe. He got to talk with our premier for half an hour. I'm not the biggest fan of royalty, but that's just cruel. Still, could have been worse. Could have been the PM.

Too bloody true!!!

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I'm in SA, and I bloody HATE Daylight Savings, especially now it goes on even longer, if for no other reason than it means summer's coming (I'm very much a winter person, so, boy do I live in the wrong country)...

I think we've got one of the better Premiers here, but then we hardly hear about him (good thing in itself), so who knows. At least he's not one of Abbott's cronies...

Anyway, off to sleepy-bobos - thank Rassilon* it's a public holiday tomorrow!!


* See how I cunningly slipped in a Medic reference there, so my post isn't *completely* off topic??!! :D

Yeah, I'm a winter person too - NOT looking forward to summer at all! Who the hell voted for bloody Abbott and his knobs too?!!!

Phil Morris of episode-hunting fame has just now (in the last 17 hours) opened a twitter account for his company under @archive1963, opening with a tweet 'saluting' & 'thanking' DW fans for their passion, and following that with a reply to Ian Levene's tweet about staying quiet until Wednesday morning: "wise choice, Ian"...

It's all feeling pretty real now - the next day or so's going to be hard to get through!!

Foe, where are you?? I'd love to know what you're hearing/feeling/thinking about all this right now...

Wednesday Morning: The B announces they have fully recovered the soundtracks of all episodes of Hartnell and Troughton era episodes. They will be contracting A CERTAIN AMAZING animation company that they have worked with before to produce a 52 episode animated series for UK Television.

[keeps it zipped]... waiting...

The Mirror are now saying that the announcement has been delayed and that we can expect a press conference on Friday. Grr!

The Mirror are now saying that the announcement has been delayed and that we can expect a press conference on Friday. Grr!

It was all a cruel lead-on.

The Mirror are now saying that the announcement has been delayed and that we can expect a press conference on Friday. Grr!

BASTARDS!!!!

I, as much as anyone, would love for a stash of episodes to have been found in some dusty vault under a TV station in Africa. But if that proves to be the case, would they REALLY be made available through iTunes first? I may be wrong, but I sincerely doubt that is the route the BBC would choose to take in releasing any newly found episodes.

I hope the arabic dubbing won't be too intrusive...

I, as much as anyone, would love for a stash of episodes to have been found in some dusty vault under a TV station in Africa. But if that proves to be the case, would they REALLY be made available through iTunes first? I may be wrong, but I sincerely doubt that is the route the BBC would choose to take in releasing any newly found episodes.

Easy. Release what you've got, regardless of state, now via digital download gives the fans a 'birthday present' and then they can make an even bigger song'n'dance about releasing them on physical media later on fully restored complete with the usual extras such as commentary tracks.

Easy. Release what you've got, regardless of state, now via digital download gives the fans a 'birthday present' and then they can make an even bigger song'n'dance about releasing them on physical media later on fully restored complete with the usual extras such as commentary tracks.

Can't imagine they'd do this. Although the BBC does have form for putting out substandard quality Doctor Who in 2013. ;-)

The Moonbase was recently postponed on DVD from October to January, maybe the reason could be a missing episode needs to be restored and included?

And in Whoville the Whos were all happy and bright
For the missing lost stories were now in plain sight!

But one Who was sat in a terrible stew
A Who who felt he was the Whoiest Who
Who was better than me and far better than you!

"An announcement they've promised! These stories for sale!
But now a delay! WHAT A TOTAL BETRAYAL!"
(As every Who knew, he had no sense of scale.)

And most would perceive him as just a big troll
Regardless of how much they liked Northern Soul.

So while King Who poo poo'd the shiny old Whos
The rest of the Who's simply welcomed the news.

And in Whoville the Whos were all happy and bright
For the missing lost stories were now in plain sight!

But one Who was sat in a terrible stew
A Who who felt he was the Whoiest Who
Who was better than me and far better than you!

"An announcement they've promised! These stories for sale!
But now a delay! WHAT A TOTAL BETRAYAL!"
(As every Who knew, he had no sense of scale.)

And most would perceive him as just a big troll
Regardless of how much they liked Northern Soul.

So while King Who poo poo'd the shiny old Whos
The rest of the Who's simply welcomed the news.

Dr. Who-uess?

Can't imagine they'd do this. Although the BBC does have form for putting out substandard quality Doctor Who in 2013. ;-)

Money and good PR.

Good PR from releasing the returned stories as soon as they could. Money from a simple distribution system that they know 'hard core' fans will grab ASAP.

More money further down the line when they release the fully restored versions on physical media they know the completists will certainly purchase.

Or, in other words, the same reason they phaff doing the Special Releases.

I hope the arabic dubbing won't be too intrusive...

Just overdub with the soundtracks available.

I really hate Mega, just trying to replace an audio and it keep freezing, and I'm actually using chrome for once. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

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Does anyone know where I can find blank (free of text and logo) versions of The Two Victorian Gentlemen's Adventures with the 6th Medic and 5th Medic?

Does anyone know where I can find blank (free of text and logo) versions of The Two Victorian Gentlemen's Adventures with the 6th Medic and 5th Medic?

I take it you mean the covers?

But ... 5th??? Did I miss one?

BBC recovers early Doctor Who episodes | Television & radio | The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/oct/07/doctor-who-early-episodes-recovered-bbc)

Article written by a reporter whose written a number of articles recently about the BBC. Now that a real paper is reporting, and by a writer who seemingly has good inside sources, I think its pretty clear this is no longer a hoax. Now the only question is what is the actual size of the find. The talk on Gallifrey Base is Enemy of the World and Web of Fear (sans episode 3 which needs further restoration work) will be available to download this week. Might more be on the way after? Either way, this is a great find however you look at it.

Enemy of the World is one of the stories that I want to see ALOT!! Hope this is my week. Fingers crossed now fro Fury From the deep. 2 Dalek Throughtons and some yeti's too!
No I hope it's OUR week and we get something that we All want

Phil Morris of episode-hunting fame has just now (in the last 17 hours) opened a twitter account for his company under @archive1963, opening with a tweet 'saluting' & 'thanking' DW fans for their passion, and following that with a reply to Ian Levene's tweet about staying quiet until Wednesday morning: "wise choice, Ian"......

It's actually @archives1963
:)
https://twitter.com/archives1963

Question: Why hasn't anyone ever posted the current episodes of LC's very fine DS franchise? Despite the fact that new ones are produced virtually every month and are qualitatively on a par with every other audio drama that LC produces all which eventually are posted right here on the V.

Except the DS series.

Answer: Could it be, yes, I believe it is, because it's not a native son franchise, but a foreign one.
In fact American. Yup, the good ole US of A.

That's the only logical reason that comes to mind.

I can't believe it's because of UK Jingoism, because you guys are so cool and generous when it comes to sharing and supporting each other and so thoughtful and kind heartened with sincere condolences to anyone at all who informs us of the loss of a loved one no matter where they may be located.

Therefore I can only assume it is because your just not that familiar with it because since it's not indigenous to the UK or even England, it's not a part of British culture - like our beloved DW franchise and all it's numerous constituents - and consequently it's not really part of fan culture and consequently V culture here in the isles.

However I also feel confident that if someone who had access to these dramas especially the current ones, or knew of someone who had access to them and would be willing to post and share, because of the inherently good story telling and dramaturgy of LC's continuing product line, these episodes would soon become as big a favorites as the rest of LC continuing high quality audios. And would become a part fan culture and thus V culture.

I'd do it myself to give you guys a head start, but to tell you the truth I haven't the fogiest how to upload. My cyber stills are pretty elemental. I've even checked out other sites to read up on the "how to", but I just can't get past all the nomenclature.

So I'm hoping some angel out there will get the ball rolling and start posting the latest DS stuff like say from the last 3 months or so.

With Halloween just around the corner, what could be a better time!

Question: Why hasn't anyone ever posted the current episodes of LC's very fine DS franchise?

They used to have their own thread, but it (like many of the characters) died a death. Every-so-often one will pop-up here, but they never seem to have been that popular. Or, at the very least, popular enough for people to ask for with regularity.

Sharing's easy - just register on somewhere like ...


www.4shared.com

.... and you're good to go.

Damn it, I hate waiting for news...

Thanks for the response Nobber, but do you mean all I need do is ask for the DS audios on the share site and that they could be forthcoming?

Just when I was beginning to shift my DVD budget to the audios...

Thanks for the response Nobber, but do you mean all I need do is ask for the DS audios on the share site and that they could be forthcoming?

He was showing you where to upload.

You go to the mainpage.

(register with the site.)

where it says "click here to upload" you click there.

An explorer window opens which shows files on your own personal hard drive.

You navigate to the file you want to upload, click on it and then 4shared starts uploading for you to your personal folder on their private sever which is not your PC, and they give you a "link" which you can then share and anyone who can then download that file from 4shared.

There's a multi file upload option, or whatever you are using to unzip your files from zips or rars, and you use that to zip or rar a cluster of your files into one single zip or rar.

There are HUNDREDS of other flielockers to chose from and some or less or more user friendly than 4shared depending on where in the world you are and what's happening with your PC.

Check your PM buzzco.

It's actually @archives1963
:)
https://twitter.com/archives1963

My bad - ta.

Y'know, what's getting me het up right now is that we're faced with some truly wonderful news for all fans of 'Classic' Who, and all a big, loud bunch of so-called 'uber-fan' DICKS can do is whinge, moan, complain and scream about how they've been LIED to.

Chrissake, get a sense of f***ing perspective. Be happy we've got something (possibly a LOT) back at all...

This. Is. Great. News.

Rejoice!

:whatislove:

My bad - ta.

Y'know, what's getting me het up right now is that we're faced with some truly wonderful news for all fans of 'Classic' Who, and all a big, loud bunch of so-called 'uber-fan' DICKS can do is whinge, moan, complain and scream about how they've been LIED to.

Chrissake, get a sense of f***ing perspective. Be happy we've got something (possibly a LOT) back at all...

This. Is. Great. News.

Rejoice!

:whatislove:

Exactly how I feel.

My bad - ta.

Y'know, what's getting me het up right now is that we're faced with some truly wonderful news for all fans of 'Classic' Who, and all a big, loud bunch of so-called 'uber-fan' DICKS can do is whinge, moan, complain and scream about how they've been LIED to.

Chrissake, get a sense of f***ing perspective. Be happy we've got something (possibly a LOT) back at all...

This. Is. Great. News.

Rejoice!

:whatislove:

Hi there, don't suppose you had any luck with the conviction of a medic audio books did you? X thanks x

...

...

I am smooth aren't I !!!

I don't like to assume that anyone has to shave more often than I do.

My bad - ta.

Y'know, what's getting me het up right now is that we're faced with some truly wonderful news for all fans of 'Classic' Who, and all a big, loud bunch of so-called 'uber-fan' DICKS can do is whinge, moan, complain and scream about how they've been LIED to.

Chrissake, get a sense of f***ing perspective. Be happy we've got something (possibly a LOT) back at all...

This. Is. Great. News.


I suspect that what's getting to people, and the real die-hard/uber-fans are getting it the hardest, is probably the lack of verified news announcement, and dicking around with changing announcement dates at this point must be incredibly frustrating for some.

Me, I'm still comfy in my spot on the "believe it when see it" sofa. But a certain part of fandom must be feeling some real pain at the moment.

I suspect that what's getting to people, and the real die-hard/uber-fans are getting it the hardest, is probably the lack of verified news announcement, and dicking around with changing announcement dates at this point must be incredibly frustrating for some.

Points taken, and it really only boils down to a few VERY obnoxious people (*cough* Mr Levene *cough), but really, there's a difference between being frustrated & angry, and acting like a baby whose toys have fallen out of the crib!

If they postponed the announcement by, say, a month, I'd understand it more, and probably grumble a bit myself - but two days isn't very long, so it comes across as a massive over-reaction, especially to non-fans/casual fans/BBC employees ( ;P)...

Points taken, and it really only boils down to a few VERY obnoxious people (*cough* Mr Levene *cough), but really, there's a difference between being frustrated & angry, and acting like a baby whose toys have fallen out of the crib!

If they postponed the announcement by, say, a month, I'd understand it more, and probably grumble a bit myself - but two days isn't very long, so it comes across as a massive over-reaction, especially to non-fans/casual fans/BBC employees ( ;P)...

Exactly, Looshkin. There's absolutely nothing to be gained by ranting and raving and calling the people who are presumably going to supply missing episodes of your favourite programme a word that rhymes with 'runts' publicly.

Babelcolour, he of the colourisation of Mind of Evil 1 (plus other fantastic work) said over on Roobarbs...


Originally Posted by Babelcolour
This is all a rather intriguing situation which has left me completely unsure what to feel!

Am I excited? Suspicious? Optimistic? Pessimistic? sceptical? Elated? Weary? Cynical? Enthused? Well, yes, all of them actually, scrambled-up and and sprinkled with confusion.

People I respect and trust have poo-pooed the story, yet The Radio Times and the Guardian and Sky and the wider media are maintaining its veracity. So I'm torn - like thousands of others - on who to believe. I'd certainly like the story to be true, of course, but the frankly astounding way this is all being people-managed is ridiculous. Every Corporation has effete and weak management - central Government, Local Authorities, the NHS, British Gas, the Beeb, they're everywhere - but surely, surely to God, when TV News and national papers are reporting a story about your company someone, somewhere would have the mettle to take the bull by the horn and formulate a response via their Communications Department one way or the other. To leave an omni-rumour brewing for a year is one-thing, but National Media speculation hanging in peoples' homes for a week whilst sitting in silent impotence in an office saying "I want NO-ONE to speak of this" is a management strategy that certainly calls into question the competencies of the decision makers. I won't point my finger at the Radio Times, or The People, or Bleedin' Cool or the Restoration Team or Forum Moderators, because they must all be as frustrated at the situation as I am, but I do point a finger at the people in suits who have engineered this confusion and doubt purely by lacking a coherent strategy to address the situation in a world that is no longer the 1950s but one that is very much globally active with Twitter, Blogs and forums melting down under the weight of speculation and optimistic frustration.

I couldn't agree more.

R

Points taken, and it really only boils down to a few VERY obnoxious people (*cough* Mr Levene *cough), but really, there's a difference between being frustrated & angry, and acting like a baby whose toys have fallen out of the crib!

If they postponed the announcement by, say, a month, I'd understand it more, and probably grumble a bit myself - but two days isn't very long, so it comes across as a massive over-reaction, especially to non-fans/casual fans/BBC employees ( ;P)...

Recon's quote of Babelcolour, above, is far more polite than my version ... their PR dept is a fecking disgrace. And I'd argue that changing by one day is actually worse than one month. Especially given the month in question. They *SHOULD* have just come out and said "Yes! We've found some. And they will be announced on 23rd November."

Rumourmill killed in one fell-swoop, gives folks a 'birthday present' and lets the well founded speculation begin.

This stuttering, will we/won't we/can't we have this dance, approach is absolutely shocking.

If anyone here is of a Project And Programme Management bent, this is a fantastic case-book example of how NOT to do the Stakeholder And Communication Management aspects.

I'm willing to give the Beeb and the episode hunters the benefit of the doubt purely because we have no idea all the negotiations, politics, etc that have gone on and what state things were in. What if they had some back but not all so announcing too early would create a sea of angry fans trying to track down who has the remaining ones? Or well intentioned but misguided super-fans wading in looking for the glory?

It seems odd that those people who leaked the rumours are left blameless and the BBC gets demonised.

I'm willing to give the Beeb and the episode hunters the benefit of the doubt purely because we have no idea all the negotiations, politics, etc that have gone on and what state things were in. What if they had some back but not all so announcing too early would create a sea of angry fans trying to track down who has the remaining ones? Or well intentioned but misguided super-fans wading in looking for the glory?

It seems odd that those people who leaked the rumours are left blameless and the BBC gets demonised.

Good point.

To quote Spike Milligan: "It's all rather confusing, really..." :S

As long as we end up with more episodes existing than we have now, I'm happy.

'Nite all - bed time in Oz-land...

To quote Spike Milligan: "It's all rather confusing, really..." :S

As long as we end up with more episodes existing than we have now, I'm happy.

'Nite all - bed time in Oz-land...


:D

At least it's taking my mind of working through the maze of getting planning permission to repair/rebuild a G2 listed wall that could fall down during the next bout of farting from my general direction.

The way I see it, if it is true - that is great and I am totally, totally hoping it is.

If it isn't? We have heard it before. And, to be fair, at least one of the media outlets that has reported on it is not exactly amazingly accurate with facts sometimes.

To put it into perspective, whether it is 100 episodes or 2 episodes or, hell, 5 episodes - What we have right now is 0 recovered episodes in years. Even a single would be a pretty good victory.

(Note: That doesn't mean I am not hoping for an "Every episode recovered!" announcement.)

True.

I was thinking the other day. We all remember The Moff's now infamous "DW is going to take over television" sound-bite that's now generally used to mock the output we've had this year. I got to wondering if that was originally intended to hint at a much earlier, proper, announcement about recovered episodes and their re-transmission over the year. Looked at from a certain POV it sort of makes sense along with the "more DW than ever before" comments. Much like the Cylons; he had A Plan. But it wasn't a very good one and fell apart before it had even started.

Or something like that.

Oh, look, there's a cloud inside that silver lining!

BBC News App Reports :

"A number of early episodes of the medic, which were believed to have been permanently lost, have been returned to the BBC"...press conference later on in the week...
Details of how medic fans will be able to watch the recovered episode are also expected to be revealed later THIS WEEK.

does this make it 100 officil whe The Beeb are announcing it on their web-Apps???

well missing episodes are certainly going to be released...now it's a case of are the rumours of which episodes it is going to be accurate?

Just when I've burned all the missing stories telesnap versions to DVD to complete my collection this happens.
Should have done it years ago

BBC News App Reports :

"A number of early episodes of the medic, which were believed to have been permanently lost, have been returned to the BBC"...press conference later on in the week...
Details of how medic fans will be able to watch the recovered episode are also expected to be revealed later THIS WEEK.

does this make it 100 officil whe The Beeb are announcing it on their web-Apps???

Here's a link to the story :D :D :D
BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://bbc.in/17jq2yu)

"A number" of episodes. Well, think of a number between 1 and 106. It would certainly indicate more than 2 at least.
It would be nice if the recovered episodes complete a story or three. I'm hoping for a completion of the invasion personally as it's one of my faves.

Worst thing that could happen is that they are all racist ones. Imagine, full press conference and they screen that monkey man from MPolo.

Here's a link to the story :D :D :D
BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://bbc.in/17jq2yu)

Still speculating, though. When they start saying "BBC Worldwide *WILL* be ...." that's when we crack-out the expensive beers.

Worst thing that could happen is that they are all racist ones. Imagine, full press conference and they screen that monkey man from MPolo.

nooo...a monkey man? Really? Now that is a racist comment. And i must say, i've just gone and looked at images from the episode and didn't see any photos of anyone i would describe as a 'monkey man'. I just cringe reading your post.

It was the 1960's. No, the episodes weren't PC and made liberal use of stereotypes, yes, but racist? No i don't think so. Nothing like that dreadful episode of ST-TNG Code of Honour.

Episodes of the Medic were far more PC than a lot of Sci-fi, not to mention other television of the time.

The fact that the BBCs own entertainment correspondent on a BBC info source has (virtually) confirmed a number of episodes have been returned just gave the rumour credibility IMO.

Lost episodes stand at 106, how many will be lost by the weekend?

Lost episodes stand at 106, how many will be lost by the weekend?

105.5!

On the BBC News website - which is about as officials as you can get!

BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)

A number of early episodes of Doctor Who, which were believed to have been permanently lost, have been returned to the BBC.
BBC Worldwide is expected to confirm the find at a press screening in London later this week.
It follows weeks of speculation that some lost episodes had been located.
Details of how fans will be able to watch the recovered episodes are also expected to be revealed later this week.

On the BBC News website - which is about as officials as you can get!

BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)

A number of early episodes of Doctor Who, which were believed to have been permanently lost, have been returned to the BBC.
BBC Worldwide is expected to confirm the find at a press screening in London later this week.
It follows weeks of speculation that some lost episodes had been located.
Details of how fans will be able to watch the recovered episodes are also expected to be revealed later this week.

I'm still not holding out much hope that many lost Troughton episodes will be there. As far as I know they weren't sold overseas nearly as extensively as Hartnell.

OK, so even I have to admit that there may be something to this story but I doubt there are 100+ eps like some newspapers are reporting. And even if there are so many, how many exactly are missing episodes and how many are copies of existing ones?

http://
Here. Man with monkey. Sorry. I didn't thought that through.
Also, there is Pin-Cho who was played ethnic asian, so... Bad example?

While you're waiting for an announcement of some sort why not play The Doctor Who Pub Quiz (http://tinyurl.com/plvj2ca)?

OK, so even I have to admit that there may be something to this story but I doubt there are 100+ eps like some newspapers are reporting. And even if there are so many, how many exactly are missing episodes and how many are copies of existing ones?

I worried about that, all these found episodes and they might be ones we already have!

Although, I am starting to believe all the Ian Levine stuff, everything in these leaked emails and stories from May(ish) has come true. Which pisses me off that we have to wait until August for a reduced episode count!

I doubt there would be so much hoo-ha (WHO-ha geddit) over episodes already kept by Auntie. I think these must be lost episodes in the truest sense.

Uh...
By the way, what change there is that this gets cast record?
http://http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24431026

I doubt there would be so much hoo-ha (WHO-ha geddit) over episodes already kept by Auntie. I think these must be lost episodes in the truest sense.

No, I know.

I am meaning that if there are 106 or whatever it is, then the number of actual 'lost' episodes might be significantly lower.

Okay, got it.

Uh...
By the way, what change there is that this gets cast record?
http://http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24431026

huh?

Oh ... CHANCE, you mean.

Must musicals seem to get released these days, so I'd say pretty high.

No, I know.

I am meaning that if there are 106 or whatever it is, then the number of actual 'lost' episodes might be significantly lower.

Thats because they are so lost that we don't even have records of them. Such as the first REAL appearance of the Silvermen; "Doctor Who and the Boxing Day of Steel".

am i the only one who sees McGann in this poster?

What the hell is that meant to show?

am i the only one who sees McGann in this poster?




No sorry, I don't see anything.

Remember my first WHO convention back in the 80's.

Was so excited about seeing black and white episodes I'd only imagined courtesy of TARGET books that I threw up on way to destination.

VHS, Laserdisc, DVD and Blu-Ray were not an option.The internet as real as The Matrix. Flirting with Sophie Aldred, chatting to Pertwee at length. Great days.

I remember the HK discovery of Tombs with absolute delight. Feel the same way again. If six or sixty episodes, I'm grateful.

Agree it could have been handled better, but feel that someone has broken embargo and things have snowballed.

Anyway, all will be revealed soon.

Best wishes to all you waiting for info, one day they shall come back, yes they shall come back, until then go forward....

Nothing like that dreadful episode of ST-TNG Code of Honour.

I was staggered when I saw that episode for the first time a few years ago. If they were going to be that blacksploitative, they might as well have called it Planet of the *******. I am neither shocked nor offended easily, but that was shameful.

Anyone who is familiar with the telesnaps will know that there is progressively more "yellow face" as Marco Polo goes along. I consider that a product of the time, and not played to be offensive. It is not in the same tradition as black face, which sent up the most offensive stereotypes of a culture half a century removed from slavery. There are instances like Breakfast at Tiffany's, where Mickey Rooney plays a stereotypical Chinese character, but for Polo, it was a matter of necessity. And I don't recall there being any snide or derogatory comments in Polo. It was simply a matter of necessity at the BBC in 1963, when there were probably fewer than 5 Asians in all of Equity.

am i the only one who sees McGann in this poster?




I see him! He's right next to that red circle.

Agree that the TNG episode was shameful.

However don't think we should try to change history with old shows like WHO.

I'm a great fan of the Ian Fleming 007 novels, but it is a different world now (for better or worse).

Who was a product of it's time, Toberman may just have been a strong black servant in Tomb of the Cybermen to some, to me the hero.

Opinions welcome

I think it boils down to Mark Twain. There is plenty of thematically racist language and content, but it is an honest picture of life in those times. Read in context, its words and subject matter are not offensive, they just live in an offensive world. Sanitizing history is a disservice to what has been accomplished.

DemonSeedMonkey,

Thank you for putting my thoughts down in such a superb way.

Regards,

DoctorFab

I think it boils down to Mark Twain. There is plenty of thematically racist language and content, but it is an honest picture of life in those times. Read in context, its words and subject matter are not offensive, they just live in an offensive world. Sanitizing history is a disservice to what has been accomplished.

Thirded

lol an article on the brit corp's site says 106 eps have been found and everything gets revealed at press conference friday

A few people have PM'd me asking why I have not said anything about the current "news"......
I am sitting, waiting, rocking back and forth, laughing to myself and talking to the insects...
When we know I shall party like its 1963 if its good news...
or unleash a living hell upon all who approach me if its bad! lol

Haha.

Did that idiot who got banned and came back and got banned and came back and got banned and came back and got banned, ever come back? I would love to hear their take...

Haha.

Did that idiot who got banned and came back and got banned and came back and got banned and came back and got banned, ever come back? I would love to hear their take...

No he didn't....And I was one of the ones roasted by him back then....That's why I am silent..just me and the insects...listening to the tick, tick, tick of the clock, awaiting vindication......

I take it you mean the covers?

But ... 5th??? Did I miss one?

Sorry I was multitasking on a library computer with the timer at less than a minute left. So toy clarify, yes covers of them an 4th not 5th Medic.

nooo...a monkey man? Really? Now that is a racist comment. And i must say, i've just gone and looked at images from the episode and didn't see any photos of anyone i would describe as a 'monkey man'. I just cringe reading your post.

It was the 1960's. No, the episodes weren't PC and made liberal use of stereotypes, yes, but racist? No i don't think so. Nothing like that dreadful episode of ST-TNG Code of Honour.
I think the poster is referring to a character with an eyepatch and a spider monkey on his shoulder.
A character who is chinese but is played by a caucasion actor in make-up.






Episodes of the Medic were far more PC than a lot of Sci-fi, not to mention other television of the time.
There is also the episode of Celestial Toymaker which has the line from a nursery rhyme "Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo, Catch a [N-word] by his toe..."

But as other posters have said - it's a product of it's time.

I'm still not holding out much hope that many lost Troughton episodes will be there. As far as I know they weren't sold overseas nearly as extensively as Hartnell.

The strong rumours are 9 eps (all troughton, including 1 full story) are ready to roll with Marco Polo also returned, but requiring some extensive restoration work.

If you think you know all about who try this, it's a tough old bugger of a quiz

http://www.you-know-who.info/quiz2013/

If you think you know all about who try this, it's a tough old bugger of a quiz

http://www.you-know-who.info/quiz2013/

"Academy Initiate" - Probably could have gotten higher had they been all multiple choice. The ones where you've got to move the letters/pictures around are a PITA and I did skip a few.

No sorry, I don't see anything.

just me then, ok. i thought i was going mad, i guess i am

just me then, ok. i thought i was going mad, i guess i am

I see a sailboat (Mallrats reference :D)

If you think you know all about who try this, it's a tough old bugger of a quiz

http://www.you-know-who.info/quiz2013/

High Council Member. Quite proud of myself :) [although a couple of questions, eg the actor ones, I did guess]

just me then, ok. i thought i was going mad, i guess i am

....is this a "find it in the clouds" thing!!!! All Humanoid lifeforms look alike to me....

High Council Member. Quite proud of myself :) [although a couple of questions, eg the actor ones, I did guess]

Show off!

:D

You obviously had more patience with the scrabble-tile bits than I did!

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Hold your hats, people ... from Ms Watling's site ...

DEBORAH WATLING OFFICIAL SITE (http://www.deborahwatling.net/News/index.htm)


{08/10/13}
Deborah, along with Frazer Hines, will be helping the BBC to launch the newly found Dr.Who episodes this Thurs (10/10/13), betwwen 3.30pm and 7.00pm approx.

True.

I was thinking the other day. We all remember The Moff's now infamous "DW is going to take over television" sound-bite that's now generally used to mock the output we've had this year. I got to wondering if that was originally intended to hint at a much earlier, proper, announcement about recovered episodes and their re-transmission over the year. Looked at from a certain POV it sort of makes sense along with the "more DW than ever before" comments. Much like the Cylons; he had A Plan. But it wasn't a very good one and fell apart before it had even started.

Or something like that.

Oh, look, there's a cloud inside that silver lining!

I've been thinking that for a looooooong time now - his way of commenting without being specific. "More DW than ever before... in the archives, that is"... :)

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No he didn't....And I was one of the ones roasted by him back then....That's why I am silent..just me and the insects...listening to the tick, tick, tick of the clock, awaiting vindication......

I want to force him to keep his word - I would love to see that F***er eat a Dalek :)

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am i the only one who sees McGann in this poster?




After squinting painfully for about 10 minutes, I can 'see' what looks like a midget Silent going "Shhhh", and a headless man in a sports-coat clutching his chest!!!!???? Does this mean the plot involves baby Silents beheading McGann during the Time War(TM)???? :D

High Council Member. Quite proud of myself :) [although a couple of questions, eg the actor ones, I did guess]

I got the same ranking - 960 out of 1200 - but I know I spelled at least one incorrectly, so it would have been a little higher.
I didn't guess any, but skipped a couple I had no idea about.

{08/10/13}
Deborah, along with Frazer Hines, will be helping the BBC to launch the newly found Dr.Who episodes this Thurs (10/10/13), betwwen 3.30pm and 7.00pm approx.



Is this for a press conference? If so, they set up appointment times like your typical cable company. "It'll only take a few minutes, but you don't mind leaving us a four-hour window, right?"

Crikey.

Doctor Who News: BBC News confirms episodes found (http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/10/episodes-found-081013150008.html)

Crikey.

Doctor Who News: BBC News confirms episodes found (http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/10/episodes-found-081013150008.html)

That's just a report about the speculation, though. The 'confirmed' link just goes to the previous BBC link that has the word 'expected" in. Still not 100%. Close, but no cigar. Yet.

The closest there is to anything utterly concrete, IMHO, is that snippet from Debbie Wattlings site that I linked to previously.

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Is this for a press conference? If so, they set up appointment times like your typical cable company. "It'll only take a few minutes, but you don't mind leaving us a four-hour window, right?"

Ha! Dunno.

Enough time for speeches, Q&A and show half-a-dozen episodes ....

That's just a report about the speculation, though. The 'confirmed' link just goes to the previous BBC link that has the word 'expected" in. Still not 100%. Close, but no cigar. Yet.

The closest there is to anything utterly concrete, IMHO, is that snippet from Debbie Wattlings site that I linked to previously.

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Ha! Dunno.

Enough time for speeches, Q&A and show half-a-dozen episodes ....

Well... no - we still don't know how many, etc. But:

"BBC News have now confirmed that a (currently unspecified) number of previously assumed missing Doctor Who episodes have now been returned to the BBC."

So we do definitely have some missing episodes back. Even if it only turns out to be two. Imagine the JOY if it were more, but - CRIKEY.

I really hope we get some Troughtons. Sorry Bill, I love you and everything , but I really want some more Trought.

Well... no - we still don't know how many, etc. But:

"BBC News have now confirmed that a (currently unspecified) number of previously assumed missing Doctor Who episodes have now been returned to the BBC."

So we do definitely have some missing episodes back. Even if it only turns out to be two. Imagine the JOY if it were more, but - CRIKEY.

I really hope we get some Troughtons. Sorry Bill, I love you and everything , but I really want some more Trought.

The point I'm making is that 'confirmed' links to the BBC page that just says 'BBC Worldwide are expected'.

So all it's doing is just confirming the expectation.


BUT .... Hang on a second ... I may owe you a slight apology ... on the BBC page (BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)) is the bolded text


A number of early episodes of Doctor Who, which were believed to have been permanently lost, have been returned to the BBC.

new?

The page claims to have last been updated 14:47 yesterday, but I'm blowed if I saw that text before.

But, still, the page is still saying "expected to announce" and not "will announce".

The point I'm making is that 'confirmed' links to the BBC page that just says 'BBC Worldwide are expected'.

So all it's doing is just confirming the expectation.


BUT .... Hang on a second ... I may owe you a slight apology ... on the BBC page (BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)) is the bolded text



new?

The page claims to have last been updated 14:47 yesterday, but I'm blowed if I saw that text before.

But, still, the page is still saying "expected to announce" and not "will announce".


That's what I read. Looks new t'me!

I don't usually allow the speculation to get to me. Caution and patience precludes disappointment. But SOMETHING is occurring here...! I'm excited, despite meself...

Haha.

Did that idiot who got banned and came back and got banned and came back and got banned and came back and got banned, ever come back? I would love to hear their take...

I wouldn't, since I'm sure it would be nothing but four letter words. And, since he's not here, I'm going to say what I wanted to say back then but didn't because I was afraid to unleash yet another backlash - refusing to admit even the possibility of hope and attacking those who do hope is very un-Doctor like. The Doctor himself would always admit the possibility of hope, no matter how unlikely or farfetched.

And it certainly looks like Foe was right all along and can say "I told you so!" But he's probably too nice to do that. :)

yes - can confirm that is the wording that was originally there nobber - so they are confirming that there are new eps, but not confirming when we will be told what they are or when we can get them...

that's how i see it anyway :)

I would just like to say that it was due to Foe's comments that I was cautiously optimistic about the rumours. I would normally dismiss any such rumours, but with Foe being an established member and the unambiguous manner that he was talking about it (stating he'd actually seen the footage) made me think it might be true. And now it looks like we're about to get an announcement, so I'd like to thank Foe for his initial comments about the discovery, for giving me reason to actually believe the stories, and for staying on through the abusive storm that erupted following your initial comments.

A few people have PM'd me asking why I have not said anything about the current "news"......
I am sitting, waiting, rocking back and forth, laughing to myself and talking to the insects...
When we know I shall party like its 1963 if its good news...
or unleash a living hell upon all who approach me if its bad! lol

You make me laugh.

DemonSeedMonkey,

Thank you for putting my thoughts down in such a superb way.

Regards,

DoctorFab

I'm just trying to even out my petty, snarky comment ratio. Still a long ways to go.

I'm just trying to even out my petty, snarky comment ratio. Still a long ways to go.

heh. In the original post's context, I read DoctorFab's response probably as it was intended: as thanks for being eloquent and saying what he was thinking.
but in your quote here, I read it as a passive-aggressive response to a put-down. curious.

Certainly not passive-aggressive, just praising Demon for his post which as you rightly suspected was exactly the point I was trying to get across.

He just did it so much better than I!

I would just like to say that it was due to Foe's comments that I was cautiously optimistic about the rumours. I would normally dismiss any such rumours, but with Foe being an established member and the unambiguous manner that he was talking about it (stating he'd actually seen the footage) made me think it might be true. And now it looks like we're about to get an announcement, so I'd like to thank Foe for his initial comments about the discovery, for giving me reason to actually believe the stories, and for staying on through the abusive storm that erupted following your initial comments.

HUGELY seconded! Your presence is much missed, Mr Foe. Hope we'll have you back in the fold soon, no matter what unfolds... :)

I took it in the spirit it was intended.

So, Watling's going to be at this press conference? I hope they point her in the right direction.

Having Fraser and Deb in attendance might give credence to the idea that the recovered episodes are indeed from Season Five or possibly Evil of the Daleks.

Anneke Wills and The Padders are still available for any other finds......

High Council Member. Quite proud of myself :) [although a couple of questions, eg the actor ones, I did guess]

Me too - 1110/1200. Most of it was easy...

I would like to be able to see what the correct answers were at the end, it's driving me bonkers, and my bonkers don't normally like being driven

I know it will never happened but I'd love a warts-and-all documentaries on the DVDs about what went on behind the scenes, which person made which demands, whether the whole "episode hunter was searching in genuinely dangerous places" claims are true, the effect it had on fandom when people started to blab, etc :D

Or maybe do a Jeremy Kyle style show full of grudges, recriminations and DNA tests.

I know it will never happened but I'd love a warts-and-all documentaries on the DVDs about what went on behind the scenes, which person made which demands, whether the whole "episode hunter was searching in genuinely dangerous places" claims are true, the effect it had on fandom when people started to blab, etc :D

Or maybe do a Jeremy Kyle style show full of grudges, recriminations and DNA tests.

I am not so interested in stuff like that, as it almost certainly included a lot of sitting on the internet and hunting that way type of stuff.

Now, if they wanted to glam it up and make it like Indiana Jones, that would be alright.

Deleted

8th and the Irish lass confirmed for three more sets.

Sets 2, 3 and 4 will be released over the course of next year from Feb.

http://tinyurl.com/pa76qqk

When it's on the BBC News website... it's official...

BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)

When it's on the BBC News website... it's official...

BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)

Yet again ... it's still not official. It's close. But ... and, yes, this is a particularly fine hair to split ... but until they say "BBC Worldwide WILL announce" and drop the speculative "expected" it's still not that 100% we need. 98.9% there, but we still need that last 1.1%

That's not to rain on parades. but that 1.1% is important.

8th and the Irish lass confirmed for three more sets.

Sets 2, 3 and 4 will be released over the course of next year from Feb.

Big Finish announce three new series of Dark Eyes | Articles | Doctor Who (http://tinyurl.com/pa76qqk)

Seems like DE2 was split into three?

I just finished relistening to darkpeeper 1.

Her peepers are dark no more.

There must be a name change unless they go dark again?

In fairness to most posters Vertigo, most of us were supportive to Foe and did not resort to abuse (this isnt GallifreyBase you know!?). It was one very vocal FORMER member who got banned and resorted to creating multiple accounts who caused the stir. We're a nice lot here...but your main point is spot on. We need Foe back to show him some love...some of our members could take him into the Zero Room for a "happy ending"...

Well I for one have never made any secret of the fact that I didn't believe the rumour, but I never doubted Foes' sincerity. All he did was let us all in on something he'd been told in confidence and he certainly didn't deserve the shite that got flung in his direction.

If these rumours are true and some of these missing stories have been found (although I doubt it will be the 100+ he claimed), then I think he deserves the right to post an 'I told you so' in big letters and I'll be right there with the apology I promised at the time.

I just finished relistening to darkpeeper 1.

Her peepers are dark no more.

There must be a name change unless they go dark again?

Nah. Probably just a now tenuous nick-name that gets carried over. I just hope it doesn't feel hammered-home like the constant naming of Ms Shelly in her stories. That was terrible writing.

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Seems like DE2 was split into three?

Three 5 disc sets according to the BF site. Feb and Nov '14 and Feb '15 for release.

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"A BBC spokesperson declined to comment on the news."

I do not believe that Sir Pepperpot will be able to meet that sort of schedule.

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Nah. Probably just a now tenuous nick-name that gets carried over. I just hope it doesn't feel hammered-home like the constant naming of Ms Shelly in her stories. That was terrible writing.

What are you talking about Nobber. I swear you are always making crazy statements just to show your craziness Nobber. You old Nobber you.

What are you talking about Nobber. I swear you are always making crazy statements just to show your craziness Nobber. You old Nobber you.

There may be a 'wwooooosshhh' as a joke just flew over my head ... but ... The way they constantly used her full name rather than just Mary seemed somewhat heavy-handed and it felt very unnatural in the dialogue.

There may be a 'wwooooosshhh' as a joke just flew over my head ... but ... The way they constantly used her full name rather than just Mary somewhat heavy-handed and it felt very unnatural in the dialogue.

You don't have a lastname on your username sir. I do what I can.

When it's on the BBC News website... it's official...

BBC News - BBC to reveal a number of missing Doctor Who episodes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063)

Makes you wonder just how many more 'lost' episodes are out there...

We know the exact number of episodes that are lost, the number that still exist is what we are unsure of.

Makes you wonder just how many more 'lost' episodes are out there...

and beyond the Who episodes, there are still many missing ones from "Out Of The Unknown" from the 1960's.

and beyond the Who episodes, there are still many missing ones from "Out Of The Unknown" from the 1960's.

I was wondering if anything else has been found along with the medic. Dad's Army or A for Andromeda would be nice. Of course I'm not sure if they were ever broadcast in Ethiopia, if indeed the missing episodes have come from there.

Because of those spam emails trying to borrow bank accounts... Africa could have been trying to give all this Who back for years.

Stoopid spam filters.

Dads Army would be pretty great.

Because of those spam emails trying to borrow bank accounts... Africa could have been trying to give all this Who back for years.

Stoopid spam filters.

Sometimes I like to think that there really IS an African Prince who's desperate to give money away. Poor chap just sits there all day, every day, wondering why no-one ever replies to his honestly kind efforts.

Sometimes I like to think that there really IS an African Prince who's desperate to give money away. Poor chap just sits there all day, every day, wondering why no-one ever replies to his honestly kind efforts.

I've got this lovely bridge in Brooklyn for sale...if anyone's interested!

That makes me want to reply and help him out now. Bless him.

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Donna??

Flight Risk | OK UK SAYS CATHERINE TATE WILL RETURN IN THE 50TH... (http://teprometo13.tumblr.com/post/63565312882/ok-uk-says-catherine-tate-will-return-in-the-50th)

Donna??

Flight Risk | OK UK SAYS CATHERINE TATE WILL RETURN IN THE 50TH... (http://teprometo13.tumblr.com/post/63565312882/ok-uk-says-catherine-tate-will-return-in-the-50th)

Not entirely sure I'd put much faith in OK Magazine's "entertainment" reporting beyond who made her bra.

I just want to see her force Jack into a broom closet, and keep him there for ten minutes.

You know, if she wasn't already married happily ever after.

I wouldn't either, but it does look like a great fake or like it is from a forthcoming issue.

It could be bollocks, but it could be the best 50th Episode present. Well, that for me would be McGann but I would take Donna if I can't have him.

You would take Donna?

I probably would, but I didn't realise I had written it like that...

I would happily have Donna in the episode.

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I think enemy of the world and web of fear will be revealed tomorrow, followed by various vague responses at to anything else, because the 90 eps initially reported by Foe is true. but, no 90 'missing' eps, just 90 eps recovered, including many already in the archive. the newly recovered eps I believe include superior quality recordings, not the daleks master plan, not power of the daleks or the highlanders but will leave the 1st doctor more or less complete and full in valuable gaps in the 2nd doctor archive.

Just a reminder in the midst of all the hopes about what tomorrow may bring. Tomorrow is very apt as the new US version of the People of Tomorrow starts tonight.

Anneke Wills tweeted about six hours ago that she was going to a secret screening tonight. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.

Thoughts on US:TP2013 so far ...

One of the major tenets of the original has been broken. The acting is terrible. There's too many of them.

MUCH darker than the original.

Upside? The jaunt effect is pretty neat (even though they call it ... teleport!). Decent eye-candy appropriate for whatever ones tastes and predilections.

It might make a moderately decent SciFi series a-la Alphas or Heroes, but what ever it was that made TP the series it was is certainly missing.

I was wondering if anything else has been found along with the medic. Dad's Army or A for Andromeda would be nice. Of course I'm not sure if they were ever broadcast in Ethiopia, if indeed the missing episodes have come from there.

From what I've been hearing, they've apparently (& this is NOT definitely the case) also found missing eps of Dad's Army, Morecambe & Wise, Out of the Unknown & Callan. I'm personally hoping for some Doomwatch.

I'm also hoping this is why Network's "Complete & Utter History of Britian" DVD has been postponed to March next year... :)

UPDATE: Apparantly add "At Last the 1948 Show" to the pile!

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I probably would, but I didn't realise I had written it like that...

I would happily have Donna in the episode.

So EVERYONE can see... :D

US:TP2013

As a series in it's own right? Needs some work but shows early promise.

As what we'd think of TP based on the original series and the LC audios? Awful.

Make of that what you will.

The CW tend to have more faith in series than SyFy, so it may well make its own place. I just wish they'd called it something else. Or taken Alphas from SyFy.

And they don't even use that iconic theme tune. The swines.

The jaunt effect is pretty neat (even though they call it ... teleport!).

This caught my eye, even though I've never seen the show. I hadn't realized the term 'jaunt' was used (in that context) anywhere beyond Alfred Bester's novel "The Stars, My Destination."

And at some point I'm going to have to play a round of 'will someone help me figure out which British kids' series with supernatural themes that aired on Nickelodeon when I was a wee lad it is that I can sort of vaguely remember but not really. As you can see, I haven't even figured out what my question is. I'll work on it.

One other thing: whatever the news that emerges at the end of the week, I'm definitely not to be considered a dupe, fool, sap, or sucker for having endured reconstructions(!!!) of the first two medics' tenure. If anything, it'll just be that much more heroic. Definitely.

This caught my eye, even though I've never seen the show. I hadn't realized the term 'jaunt' was used (in that context) anywhere beyond Alfred Bester's novel "The Stars, My Destination."


I'd only heard it in TP! Spooky. I've tried some of Bester's stuff in the past but it never clicked with me.



And at some point I'm going to have to play a round of 'will someone help me figure out which British kids' series with supernatural themes that aired on Nickelodeon when I was a wee lad it is that I can sort of vaguely remember but not really. As you can see, I haven't even figured out what my question is. I'll work on it.


I'm sure we'll figure it out with the hive mind here.

I was listening to the BMFcast podcast the other day whilst out getting the shopping and one of them was talking about a series they'd seen on Nickelodeon. "Children Of The Stones!!" I thought and cursed that I couldn't head back home and tell them on their forum. Twenty minutes later in the podcast one of the other presenters had obviously googled it and announced the name. Was gutted I didn't get the chance to show off!



One other thing: whatever the news that emerges at the end of the week, I'm definitely not to be considered a dupe, fool, sap, or sucker for having endured reconstructions(!!!) of the first two medics' tenure. If anything, it'll just be that much more heroic. Definitely.

Hay! It was a hard, dark, time and, you-know, a fan's gotta do what a fan's gotta do.

Hancocks Half Hour/Steptoe and Son would be up there, but for me ANY footage of the old "Not Only But Also" shows with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore would take priority...

True enough, I would be happy for pretty much any of it to be honest.


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And, as little as I like Rose after it is all said and done - I like her more than CatherineT. While Donna was a better character (up until the whole end nonsense, hell she is basically nu-who Tegan - which I love) CatherineT drives me insane with her voices.

And, as little as I like Rose after it is all said and done - I like her more than CatherineT. While Donna was a better character (up until the whole end nonsense, hell she is basically nu-who Tegan - which I love) CatherineT drives me insane with her voices.

I think I know what you mean. I still prefer Donna over Rose, but it's a fine line. With Donna I find that just as I can really start to accept her as her own character, something Ms T does/says/acts breaks it and I'm reminded of one of her comedy characters and the suspension of disbelief is gone.

Donna as nuWho Tegan? Well mouth on legs is a fairly apt description, but Donna knew when to keep her mouth shut. And she wasn't whine whine whine I want to go home with a put-upon air all the time like Tegan.
I guess I'm lucky I hadn't watched any of the Cat T8 before Donna, so she wasn't spoilt for me in that way.

Ah thats right, my dad just messaged me that the NextDay People was on. Worth my time?

And yes, Nobber you totally nailed what I was trying to say about the companion.

Ah thats right, my dad just messaged me that the NextDay People was on. Worth my time?

And yes, Nobber you totally nailed what I was trying to say about the companion.

See my post #17439

I'd only heard it in TP! Spooky. I've tried some of Bester's stuff in the past but it never clicked with me.

'Stars' and 'The Demolished Man' are the only two I've read. I actually wasn't wild about the former, though it's certainly full of vivid imagery, but I thought the latter was absolutely brilliant. If showing its age in spots.



I was listening to the BMFcast podcast the other day whilst out getting the shopping and one of them was talking about a series they'd seen on Nickelodeon. "Children Of The Stones!!"

In the course of my own investigation I decided that's what my mystery show must've been. I was wrong, but it was still a fantastic series. The thing is, I'm half-convinced that I've just mashed together a bunch of vague memories into something that I didn't actually see. But you're right-- if there's a group of folks who can come up with it, they're right here. I'll have to try and put it together in a coherent question to toss out there.


It was a hard, dark, time and, you-know, a fan's gotta do what a fan's gotta do.

In a couple of days, I'll know if it was a case of a fan gotta-doing what a fan mistakenly thought a fan had to gotta do. (?!?) If nothing else, I'm primed and ready to have an excuse to say "You have it so easy these days!" whenever the topic comes up. Ha!

Tomorrow People was very bland.

anyone happen to have M4B's of the oGoiduA versions of "llA sekaT renniW", "naM esiwkcolC ehT", and "edisnI sretsnoM ehT"? i have the BINR versions.

Or you could ask for suggestions for a good audio conversion/ripping program? :)

I think I know what you mean. I still prefer Donna over Rose, but it's a fine line. With Donna I find that just as I can really start to accept her as her own character, something Ms T does/says/acts breaks it and I'm reminded of one of her comedy characters and the suspension of disbelief is gone.

Donna's one of the only thing I love Tate in, and she's far and away my fave companion of the first 4 years. But if she does return, she'd better bring Wilf with her, and they'd better find a way to at least partly reverse that horrible thing RTD did to her at the end of that season (I still haven't forgiven him for it)...

by the way - just a quick heads up to everyone - when the episodes do come out, be very very careful of d/ling anything from 'sharing' sites unless it's been confirmed that you are not downloading something else entirely...remember what some people found they were d/ling last time and it certainly wasn't something they would have wanted to sit down with their kids to watch..

and please, if you can, spend a little money, even if it's only for one of the episodes for now. Put some money back in if you can.

Before it all hits the proverbial fan tomorrow, I just wanted to check to make sure I didn't miss the final two audio book installments of Trail of the Thyme Lard.

So excited for today's news... Don't care if it's 100 episodes or 1 I'll be happy. Constellation Four (only synonym even close I could think of) part 3 and Undersea Annoyance part 2 were huge unexpected treats to me. Anyway, i wanted ask if anyone knows the exact dates that this month's 3 audios come out. A certain site's merchandise page only lists the months that the audios come out, and I can't seem to find any site that has this info. Not that I don't love reading each and every one of your posts, but it would just make it easier to find them on the days they come out. It would be nice knowing the exact days they come out each and every month, too, if anyone knows where there's a schedule. If not, does anyone know why this is? Does LC not have a firm release day each month, and just puts them out when they're ready? Thank you.

Well Nobber, you almost gutted my chance to show off by naming "Children of the Stones" before i could. Love that one!! "Into the Labyrinth" is the other British kids show which aired on Nickelodeon at the same time. Both shows were produced by Peter Graham Scott.

Also, if you like that kind of stuff, I would recommend "The Stone Tape" by Nigel Kneale. A lovecraftian scifi story which predicted solid state hard drives by the man who gave us Professor Quatermass, one of the chief inspirations for Doctor Who.

In fairness to most posters Vertigo, most of us were supportive to Foe and did not resort to abuse (this isnt GallifreyBase you know!?). It was one very vocal FORMER member who got banned and resorted to creating multiple accounts who caused the stir. We're a nice lot here...but your main point is spot on. We need Foe back to show him some love...some of our members could take him into the Zero Room for a "happy ending"...
Sorry if my comment was unclear or cast aspersions on others - I realise it was that one person (whose name I don't even remember) who created that environment, and almost everyone else expressed support for Foe, even some who were dubious of his claims but were at least constructive and polite in their expressions of doubt. It goes to show how toxic that one person made things that it felt like an "abusive storm" to me. The truth is, this is the only forum that I go to for any DW discussion (although I rarely post, and tend to be more of a lurker unless I have something significant to add), and that's partly because it is a genuinely friendly place.

A certain site's merchandise page only lists the months that the audios come out, and I can't seem to find any site that has this info. Not that I don't love reading each and every one of your posts, but it would just make it easier to find them on the days they come out. It would be nice knowing the exact days they come out each and every month, too, if anyone knows where there's a schedule. If not, does anyone know why this is? Does LC not have a firm release day each month, and just puts them out when they're ready? Thank you.

there is no set date they come out but it's usually after the middle of the month :)

LC just puts them out whenever they feel like it. No warning, then BAM! - available for download.

Thank you both so much evilmonk and jlatx.

anyone happen to have M4B's of the oGoiduA versions of "llA sekaT renniW", "naM esiwkcolC ehT", and "edisnI sretsnoM ehT"? i have the BINR versions.


Or you could ask for suggestions for a good audio conversion/ripping program? :)

well, i don't have copies of the oGoiduA versions at all, just the BINR...i'm also looking for the audios of "tsoL xodaraP", "emiT deworroB", "snoziroH karD", & "sllaF remmuS". i've got ebooks of all of'em.

Sorry, I thought BINR was code for an audio format. My bad.

Well Nobber, you almost gutted my chance to show off by naming "Children of the Stones" before i could. Love that one!! "Into the Labyrinth" is the other British kids show which aired on Nickelodeon at the same time. Both shows were produced by Peter Graham Scott.

Also, if you like that kind of stuff, I would recommend "The Stone Tape" by Nigel Kneale. A lovecraftian scifi story which predicted solid state hard drives by the man who gave us Professor Quatermass, one of the chief inspirations for Doctor Who.

Also, "king of the castle" - Baker & Martin at their most bonkers - and terrifically good fun, too...

Really like Stone Tape, but to be honest the constant screaming gets on my tits after a while (Mel Syndrome??) :)

Also, just watched the animated re-construction of the 'trailer' for The Nice Worriers, and it's just struck me how much the animated Penley looks like Mike Nesmith of The Monkees!!...

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Oh, **** me, sorry! Wrong forum!

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G*snigger* *snort* B

I'm laughing on here a lot these days. Thank.

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ARF ARF!!!

Were I to ever actually bother posting on there, I'd embargo the place now purely on principle.

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There is no genital compensation. There never will be any genital compensation. Genital compensation will ALWAYS be missing, everything you've been told is a lie and will NOT be tolerated here. The end.

Now please go away - you are annoying the Gods of Ragnarok, SILLY LITTLE FAAAAAANNNNNNNSSSSSSS... :)

‘Programme One: Control must always be believed and obeyed. Programme Two: There is no such thing as Lost Episodes. No such thing as Lost Episodes. No such thing as Lost Episodes…’

'Missing', not Lost!......maybe???? :)

Totally off-topic, but if you haven't yet done so, try and take yourself off to see Gravity - preferably in 3D and on the biggest screen possible. It's superb, gripping, beautifully shot and somehow manages to be both mind-blowingly huge and claustrophobically intimate at the same time. HIGHLY recommended...
big thanks for the recommendation!
at one point, i really jumped out of the seat when the satellite debris flies towards the centre of the screen :D

https://twitter.com/Telegraph_TV/status/388259611310317569

Hurry up midnight!

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I think I know what you mean. I still prefer Donna over Rose, but it's a fine line. With Donna I find that just as I can really start to accept her as her own character, something Ms T does/says/acts breaks it and I'm reminded of one of her comedy characters and the suspension of disbelief is gone.

Have you heard her Fate Of The Medic audio? I gained a lot of respect for her as it's obvious her shouty voice isn't the only thing she can do :D But do get what you mean as occasional on TV she'd slip in Lauren mode.

https://twitter.com/Telegraph_TV/status/388259611310317569

Hurry up midnight!

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Have you heard her Fate Of The Medic audio? I gained a lot of respect for her as it's obvious her shouty voice isn't the only thing she can do :D But do get what you mean as occasional on TV she'd slip in Lauren mode.

Agreed! Midnight can't come soon enough. But what a farce in this day and age. Just release the information!

Yeah, heard her Fate story and she was superb in it.

Apparently midnight will bring news that it's complete versions of THE NME OF THE WORLD and THE WEBB OF FEAR that have been returned to the BBC.

Apparently midnight will bring news that it's complete versions of THE NME OF THE WORLD and THE WEBB OF FEAR that have been returned to the BBC.

Hmmm, well I heard that WOF is still one episode missing...
But, that is by all accounts a "Classic". I remember watching it when it was first broadcast!

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Hmmm, well I heard that WOF is still one episode missing...
But, that is by all accounts a "Classic". I remember watching it when it was first broadcast!

Damn! was hoping to be the first post on page 700...

Damn! was hoping to be the first post on page 700...

Does this help?

Does this help?

Closer!!! I think we need less than 25 for my browser!!!

Make of this what you will ....

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10732000._Lost__Dr_Who_serial_found_gathering_dust _abroad/

Think The Northern Echo have broken the embargo...... ohh dear!

Especially quoting a response from BBC Worldwide.

Just hope we find out there are more finds undisclosed as yet.

If true, I will happily toss my money at the yeti.

I'm hearing there's been a terrible mistake, and they have actually only found Enema of the World. So while they were technically correct about seeing more Troughton than ever...

Think The Northern Echo have broken the embargo...... ohh dear!

Especially quoting a response from BBC Worldwide.

Just hope we find out there are more finds undisclosed as yet.


I think, unless the link is incorrect, its been taken down...

soooo looking at that northern echo link. they are on itunes now, as in right now? anyone see em?

The Northern Echo article has just been pulled...... so assume someone got a flea in their ear!

There seems to be an awful lot of hoohaa concerning missing episodes, surely with all these rumours floating around there must be something in it, but in this day and age I am absolutely amazed Auntie has managed to keep it quiet for this long.

here's hoping.........

For those who missed the recent rumours...

UPDATE #1: And The Missing DOCTOR WHO Episodes Which Have Been Recovered Are... - Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/64571)

oops

Dr Who - an apology (From The Northern Echo) (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10732135.Dr_Who___an_apology/)

midnight uk time is coming and then the rush to itunes for more drs

oops

Dr Who - an apology (From The Northern Echo) (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10732135.Dr_Who___an_apology/)

I like how, even though they are apologizing, they pretty much drop the episode names in the apology letter anyway.

oops

Dr Who - an apology (From The Northern Echo) (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10732135.Dr_Who___an_apology/)

Opps!!!

Glad to see that their editor has a sense of humour, though.

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oops

Dr Who - an apology (From The Northern Echo) (http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10732135.Dr_Who___an_apology/)

Opps!!!

Glad to see that their editor has a sense of humour, though.

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...however I have to ask...what the feck is the point in releasing 5 episodes of one of the stories if the other episode is still missing?

Money.

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Well, it looks like the UK is finally getting some 50th action. Starting this week on Watch, they're starting Revisited and a full story from the Doc featured. :D

Ummm the new Tomorrow People....

Well... it might have promise but the acting is dodgy to say the least and it really doesn't have much basis on the original series. Still as always give it half a dozen episodes and see how it goes. Sort of Supernatural meets Alphas with a tinge of Buffy.

Shame they didn't keep the original theme tune and credits style though

The software behind Tim is worth a billion, billion dollars.

But they steal watches from malls to feed themselves?

I wasn't going to go into the gaping plot holes and inconsistencies :)

Ummm the new Tomorrow People....

Well... it might have promise but the acting is dodgy to say the least and it really doesn't have much basis on the original series. Still as always give it half a dozen episodes and see how it goes. Sort of Supernatural meets Alphas with a tinge of Buffy.

Shame they didn't keep the original theme tune and credits style though

With all the "we didn't come up with that...." bits, I wondered were they a) trying to link it to the old series or b) distancing themselves from the old series.

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Anyway ...

Had posted an article on The Independent, but it's been pulled ... but the key bit was �1.79 per ep or �9.99 for series on iTunes.

The independent has now also reported the Web/Enemy news, but the article has been pulled from their website. That article (which I only found the first few lines of in the cache of a Google search) officially gives Philip Morris the credit for the finds.

With all the "we didn't come up with that...." bits, I wondered were they a) trying to link it to the old series or b) distancing themselves from the old series.

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Anyway ...

Had posted an article on The Independent, but it's been pulled ... but the key bit was �1.79 per ep or �9.99 for series on iTunes.

Maybe it's a reference to the Galactic Trig... Or as you said to the stodgy old Brits in the 70's. Interesting there is still a TIM with a technology that is far in advance of current technology. Ups Heading to one of the plot holes and inconsistencies!

Ignoring all media regarding found episodes till the official announcement

One important thing to consider: the rumors flying around are that there are more episodes that could come soon. Some are saying that Morris is deliberately holding back to wait and see the reaction from fans. Some are claiming that negotiations are ongoing. Some are saying that it will take longer (and more money) to restore more episodes. If there is any truth the these rumors, it is ESSENTIAL that lots of people actually BUY the episodes when they're released.

I know that many of us are poor or unemployed. But this is one time that it is essential to BUY the episodes to help ensure that we all can watch more of them! There's plenty of other stuff to share! But at least buy SOME of the recovered episodes. Especially if they do get released to iTunes and are only 1-2 pounds or dollars or euros each.