It's up on the soviet site...

Im stumped on this one. lol Edi: figured it out!!!

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I somehow am not seeing anything about CC boxsets, but that would be a great way to do some Third medic stories.

They announced it a few months back. The CC's will be back with a First Medic Box Set next June, with 4 discs in the set. You can find it by going to the CC's page on the dropdown menu, and looking at forthcoming releases. I'm actually surprised that they're going this route, since this set will be so much cheaper than the individual releases. (Heck, it's cheaper than two of them!) it may be another pricing experiment to see if more people will buy them at the cheaper price. You can't really complain at 15 for 4 of them. At that price, they're only a touch more than the much shorter journeys that are starting next year.

Never mind. Davros took care of it.TY Davros!!

....wait did I really just write that? :D

Thanks Davros2014 for the brilliant share,
Cheers!

Four's got his own series. And what can LC really do with Three when three-quarters of the cast are dead and one of the three remaining wants nothing more to do with them? They're at the point of either recast the whole bunch or let Three rest in peace.

Okay as far as i know the 3 surrviving cast members of the 3rd medic era have all worked with LC --- the SGT. hasn't been involved as much because of the distance.. but he has done one. Capt. is actually in the Medic World IIRC ,.... and Ms Katie loves working with LC.

The only one that has really turned them down flat was the extinct bird .....and the man who played the 4th medic now is their biggest draw.... and waterboat just had a box set.

[ and word has it that if/when the rights are released for the new series the actors from the 10 era have said they would do it in a heartbeat or 2 and in a sense we have seen the Destiny series dip the LC toe into that era.]

Okay as far as i know the 3 surrviving cast members of the 3rd medic era have all worked with LC --- the SGT. hasn't been involved as much because of the distance.. but he has done one. Capt. is actually in the Medic World IIRC ,.... and Ms Katie loves working with LC.

The only one that has really turned them down flat was the extinct bird .....and the man who played the 4th medic now is their biggest draw.... and waterboat just had a box set.

[ and word has it that if/when the rights are released for the new series the actors from the 10 era have said they would do it in a heartbeat or 2 and in a sense we have seen the Destiny series dip the LC toe into that era.]

I am all for medic adventures of any kind, but I just can't bring myself to care about 10 or 11 doing stories if it was at the expense of the Classic medics - which it almost certainly would be - LC doesn't have infinite resources.

I don't think it would be.... -- i think we would see less spin off material -- frankly i would trade in a Ultravox song and Edwardian adventuress for a yearly box set of 10 [[ and we do have to face facts that certain eras are going to become unworkable in the near future.... [ 1 companion teacher and 4th medic are getting on in years]

frankly i would love to see Ms Manning paired with the 11th medic. -- they seemed to bond quite well in the SJAs
and i know we love the 4th medic pairings... but maybe and interesting 4th medic season could be a sgt./capt/medic trio
and i would love to hear a measured count series that brings in Ms Right. [and she can do more than just make coffee]

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Thanks for this.... did this set have any extras? or was it just the 4 stories?

Brilliant davros2014!

And DWSST4 thanks you!


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Good call Davros2014! Thanks a lot!

Old style iPod covers for the box sets for anyone who wants continuity in their LC, more at my flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/95226274@N03/with/14986431890/ :

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Does anybody have the Rad*io T**imes digital special that included their Medic 10th ann sp*ecial? Cheers

did LC make a cover in their usual style for for the Planets set?

Okay as far as i know the 3 surrviving cast members of the 3rd medic era have all worked with LC --- the SGT. hasn't been involved as much because of the distance.. but he has done one. Capt. is actually in the Medic World IIRC ,.... and Ms Katie loves working with LC.

The SGT has been extremely disparaging about the day he spent at Large Conclusions recording his CC. He's made remarks about it at conventions.
I very much doubt that he'll want to do another one.

He can be very... umm..."difficult"

did LC make a cover in their usual style for for the Planets set?
I've been wondering that, too. Or at the very least, individual cover arts for each story in that set.

The SGT has been extremely disparaging about the day he spent at Large Conclusions recording his CC. He's made remarks about it at conventions.
I very much doubt that he'll want to do another one.

He can be very... umm..."difficult"

Shame. His CC was quite fun.

Shame. His CC was quite fun.

wow he is pretty one of the only actors to make negative comments about working with them...... i mean if Janet and Tom could be won over ... you would think the Sgt. could.

It would be a shame if he did not get to work with Richard and Katie again... we have lost too many in the past 2-3 years to take these people granted... Liz,Caroline,Nick,Mary, and with Roger,Ian,Michael and Jacqueline already gone along with Pat Jon and Bill ... those early years cast members are precious.

Why is Daphne speaking in a fake yank accent?

Chase too, if I really think about it.

Is this what Americans think the British think that Americans sound like?

Why is Daphne speaking in a fake yank accent?

Chase too, if I really think about it.

Is this what Americans think the British think that Americans sound like?


you got a wonder how high the fees are to use Grace and Chang Lee in any LC production would be because clearly the actors want to be involved...it is one of those few thing i hope to see someday the original 8th medic team reunited..

wow he is pretty one of the only actors to make negative comments about working with them...... i mean if Janet and Tom could be won over ... you would think the Sgt. could.

I agree.
But it was it "eccentric" demands that meant he recorded the his few DVD commentaries the way he did - in a room by himself.
It wasn't because he was living so far away.
I believe he's based back in Salisbury now.

Wait.... you want Grace and Chang Lee....but no Charlie P!?!? :( That's cool, I guess. I do truly love that we all have different favs, but I personally loved the Edwardian adventuress series. But then again, I could listen to India read a phone book.

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Golden & Polly - yes they did. FYI - LC does have it's own website and Fbook too. Whenever they release a title - a medium-high resolution cover gets posted to their FB page. I usually use those for my digital collection.

Fox would probably charge American rates to use Grace and Chang, because they expect anyone wanting to use their characters to be able to still make a profit, because the renter is not likely to be a dinky boutique venture mostly selling to a tiny island in the middle of no where exclusively.

Although they referenced the post 9 BBC and Audio Go in one of the planets of the medic that I was listening to earlier today without fear of litigation.

Wait.... you want Grace and Chang Lee....but no Charlie P!?!? :( That's cool, I guess. I do truly love that we all have different favs, but I personally loved the Edwardian adventuress series. But then again, I could listen to India read a phone book.

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Golden & Polly - yes they did. FYI - LC does have it's own website and Fbook too. Whenever they release a title - a medium-high resolution cover gets posted to their FB page. I usually use those for my digital collection.

i loved the edwardian adventuress......however i think they went back to the well one too many times with her... i would like to hear 1 off tales set in her time with either of her doctors ...but to me the spin off was one spin off too far. I would love to see possibly yearly stories with her 1 with medic 6 and one with medic 8

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Fox would probably charge American rates to use Grace and Chang, because they expect anyone wanting to use their characters to be able to still make a profit, because the renter is not likely to be a dinky boutique venture mostly selling to a tiny island in the middle of no where exclusively.

Although they referenced the post 9 BBC and Audio Go in one of the planets of the medic that I was listening to earlier today without fear of litigation.

they seem to be getting closer and closer of adding in some references and monster and characters to the pre 9 eras ..... [ didn't one of the stories "maker of Kings" have a fleeting appearance of the 9th medic?]

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Thanks for the box set covers!

Anybody happen to have stumbled on the bonus disc for the worlds?

Anybody happen to have stumbled on the bonus disc for the worlds?

The "ehindB heT cenesS" is in here:


heT orldsW of octorD hoW


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(...)the icing on the cake of "HOLY CRAP WHAT A GREAT EPISODE" is "Curse..."!

[D]uring the "vampire" siege one of the hands through the door gets a FIRM grasp on Ac3s right breast and then when it knows what it has adjusts his grip and REALLY gets a good feel. lol


Impudent zombie bastards. They have no sense of decency.

it occurs to me that i haven't been to the Zero Room lately.....

Thanks Davros - btw saw this picture of the 12 and thought I'd share it with y'all. Late Night Fun ? Kevin Maguire Tackles The Doctors - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/08/late-night-fun-kevin-maguire-tackles-the-doctors/)

That's been doctored.

https://lookitseugeneabano.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/

In the original picture, Hartnel is pushing Cushing out of the frame.

That's been doctored.

Yeah, 12 times ;)

It seems pretty obvious that the reason for this new not late series is that they were quickly running out of unfinished stories to "adapt". (And by adapt, by the latest series, that had come to basically mean write an entirely new story around a one page outline.) At this point, any marketing advantage to using stories for the original show is pretty much negated by the fact that none of these stories were ever seriously considered for production. They were just idea pitches. At this point, they might as well go ahead will brand new full cast stories that let the writers really go to town. ...

With this being the case, and with #4 being a BIG part of LC these days, I wonder how viable it would be for them to adapt whatever script exists from 4's original "movie' idea; "Medic What meets ItchMan" ?
I know they KIND OF addressed "ItchMan's" minions (the straw-men) in two medic10 episodes ("Non-Alien Factor" / "Brood of Red-Humors"), and MAYBE they addressed "Itchman" in 10's; "Biblical-Baddie Pit" but not 4's adventure.



The SGT has been extremely disparaging about the day he spent at Large Conclusions recording his CC. He's made remarks about it at conventions.
I very much doubt that he'll want to do another one.
He can be very... umm..."difficult"

While I was in the middle of my marathon of watching the first 26 seasons of Medic What recently, I discovered a website that features a bloke torturing - er - sharing with his wife Medic What and she would comment on the episodes as they went along.
An Adventure with his Spouse in Space (and Time) as it were.

Anyway, she mentioned meeting the SGT and he was less than an ideal meeting.
SO much so that they would from then on refer to anyone having a negative outburst as "having a B3NT0N".
lol



it occurs to me that i haven't been to the Zero Room lately.....

Ah... I miss Z03.
Oddly, as I had mentioned the adventure where Vampire/Zombies firmply grasped the bre@st of 7's companion, AC3, it was always unbelievable how many time poor Z03 was groped (by baddies, the Scot;s lad and the Medic2 alike).
Maybe the zero room was INSTALLED by Medic2 (for the Scot's lads to work off steam).
lol


Thanks Davros - btw saw this picture of the 12 and thought I'd share it with y'all. Late Night Fun ? Kevin Maguire Tackles The Doctors - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/08/late-night-fun-kevin-maguire-tackles-the-doctors/)

THAT is AWESOME!
Maguire is always good!


That's been doctored.
https://lookitseugeneabano.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/
In the original picture, Hartnel is pushing Cushing out of the frame.

Yes, but also 6ies face has been altered as well.
More than likely, the original idea was nixed by an editor and wanted some adjustments to be made.
I wonder what it was to be used for?


Yeah, 12 times ;)

Zing!

Ah... I miss Z03.
Oddly, as I had mentioned the adventure where Vampire/Zombies firmply grasped the bre@st of 7's companion, AC3, it was always unbelievable how many time poor Z03 was groped (by baddies, the Scot;s lad and the Medic2 alike).
Maybe the zero room was INSTALLED by Medic2 (for the Scot's lads to work off steam).
lolAnd can you blame them. ZO3 was an uber hotty with a mega body. Of course in the Scotty's case he spent a lot of time groping the little Victorian Lass as well.

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On the subject of Planets of the Medic, is it really necessary to listen to all of them because the only entry I'm really interested in hearing is The Homeworld story with 6.

On the subject of Planets of the Medic, is it really necessary to listen to all of them because the only entry I'm really interested in hearing is The Homeworld story with 6.

AFAIK it's one long story over the four CDs.

I see LC are starting to adapt the V1rg1n range of books. Should be plenty of decent stories to keep them occupied, as long as they don't do tr4n51t.
Can't wait for the 4th medic and 2nd r0m4n4 releases though.
I remember reading most of these books when they first came out but due to entering my dotage years I can't actually remember which ones were any good.

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it occurs to me that i haven't been to the Zero Room lately.....


I met her last year at a signing thingy, she still looks good for her age.

AFAIK it's one long story over the four CDs.

It's the same bad guy in every story who keeps popping up again and again over the course of 150 years.

2 old gits - 21st century UNIT.

Like what they did with Anthony Head in X-sell-ice, or that urning prince stuff.

All in all it's really quite meh.

What I find alarming is how much the guy on the cover looks like Joel McHale from the Soup/Community.

So I was expecting something completely different.

What I find alarming is how much the guy on the cover looks like Joel McHale from the Soup/Community.

THANK YOU! It's been bugging me that he reminded me of someone else, but I just couldn't pin it down.

Has anyone found a cover for the fate of the medic bonus disk: meeting fate?

Here's an Alt-Cover for "The Globes of Gynaecologists" for those squaresville purists...

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Thanks Davros - btw saw this picture of the 12 and thought I'd share it with y'all. Late Night Fun ? Kevin Maguire Tackles The Doctors - Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/08/late-night-fun-kevin-maguire-tackles-the-doctors/)

This is great! I wish there was a comic for this cover!

Here's an Alt-Cover for "The Globes of Gynaecologists" for those squaresville purists...

It's such a clunky series title, isn't it? I get what they're trying to do, but there must be something more elegant?

I know it's been asked by others, but I can't seem to find any answer (maybe PMs were sent), but does anyone have the D!$C0NT!NU!TY GU!D3 to share?

I'm about to read the "season 6b" stories and I always love having extra informational bits to research while reading the main crux of a story.

On a side-note, I just read "War Medic's Motor of Battle" and found it a fairly enjoyable, if light, read.
Sadly, it HAD to end the way that it did, so the book was written with the end in sight, and the whole time the reader is just waiting for it.
Then, when the ending was broadcast - er... foreshadowed - it just removed all hope for the companion-character to maybe make it out alive.

There were some truly good ideas in there though.
B@rus@'s original demise in "the 5 Medics", always made me sad because he was such a good friend to 4, but to have his fate even further destroyed was crushing.
The other "interstitials" were interesting concepts, but nothing really happened with them and they proved to be superfluous.

Never was a fan of R@ss@l0n making constant reappearances (in the Nu series, as well as 8thMedic audios, and here he just irks me as well).

I'm torn about what I think about the D@l3ks time-eraser cannon. The gun itself seems a bit silly, as no one would know HOW the total erasure of an entity from time would affect everything (although the peppots probably don't give a cr@p either way), but I do like how it's powered by the anomaly.

Still, there was some fun with a lot of promise, and really just makes me want to see MORE of War Medic.

I see LC are starting to adapt the V1rg1n range of books. Should be plenty of decent stories to keep them occupied, as long as they don't do tr4n51t.
Can't wait for the 4th medic and 2nd r0m4n4 releases though.

I don't think we'll be hearing those ...as the two actors have ...uh, let's say ..."grown apart".

I don't think we'll be hearing those ...as the two actors have ...uh, let's say ..."grown apart".

well, they've already done the OldRoberts books AND a whole season together, so not THAT apart, then...

And somehow, I don't think ANYONE is stupid enough to do Transhit - Even Baronovitch doesn't think much of it...

In terms of audio adaptations of the novels, I'd love to hear several ones with Eight. As much as I'm loving the Black Pupils story arc, it'd be nice to hear Eight's adventures post-Charley, but pre-Lucie.

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Oh dear, I went out of town and I missed the scarfed ones producer special. Any chance of a re-up?

Same here dwst4, would also sure appreciate a re-up too.

Another great share from you.

Thanks ever so.

And to Davros 2014 also for his glorious share.

Same here dwst4, would also sure appreciate a re-up too.

Another great share from you.

Thanks ever so.

And to Davros 2014 also for his glorious share.

You're both members at the [COUGH!] Other Place, and it's there in Baked Goods, but I might remember that Buzzco has issues with Mega he can't seem to get around.

Anyone got some cough syrup?

Medic 4 Producer's Adventures is up.

Oh dear, I went out of town and I missed the scarfed ones producer special. Any chance of a re-up?

Same here dwst4, would also sure appreciate a re-up too.


Re-up of dwst4's finches.

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I don't think we'll be hearing those ...as the two actors have ...uh, let's say ..."grown apart".


they have already recorded one season plus the 2 adaptation already... so i think we'll be hearing them. no make that i know we'll be hearing them ... the reports of the animosity have been exaggerated

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Greatly enjoyed the Pinch-Cliff/Platt/Baker set – probably the first Bog Furnish I've liked since last year, or possibly even the year before.

It's great to have a briggs-free baker story to enjoy.

Knickers needs to step back from producing the fourth medic's adventures and let Richardson take over. It's certainly true that Briggers can write a decent tale but he's so star struck and over excited by Tom's aquiessence that all that he can produce is fawningly awful who-fan-fic and there are many/too many other balding 40-somethings on the nerdy webisphere who could do better.

Greatly enjoyed the Pinch-Cliff/Platt/Baker set – probably the first Bog Furnish I've liked since last year, or possibly even the year before.

I just could not like it. I tried. I tried really hard. And that is my favorite classic (pre-Mccoy) era of the entire series. I just felt like the stories could have been shorter and had more of a memorable impact. Not to mention the two stories happen back-to-back but none of the supporting cast carries over (I mean, they couldn't really support more actors in the second story, but why even bother mentioning it at the start of the second story at all).

I sort of feel like the stories could have been two different years worth of 4DA's, rather than making them a box set.

Bizzarely, out of all of this months releases, the star boy ones entertained me the most.

Each to his own I suppose...

they have already recorded one season plus the 2 adaptation already... so i think we'll be hearing them. no make that i know we'll be hearing them ... the reports of the animosity have been exaggerated

Yeah they get along fine. Just because you marry in haste, if you figure it out soon enough you can still have a pretty decent relationship after the seperation.

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Each to his own I suppose...

Yeah, that is the beauty of a long and varied series though.

Wow! I've been told...FOUR TIMES! Which is totally cool by me. I'm just surprised. Last time I heard either one mention the other one, things were still MORE than a lil awkward between them. They had seemed to bury their contempt for one another, but didn't sound like they were ever gonna work together again. I wonder what changed. Maybe they're both old enough to let bygones be bygones? Or did the chief Kaled work some kind of strange magic to make that happen? Either way I'm glad, if a wee bit shocked.

Only heard the first one of the Hunchcluff and between two stools. Loved it, want more, and for him to do some for 8 aswell. But it was WAY too long. As Kimekaro says, the set could have been cut down easily into 2CD stories and sold as part of the regular 4DA sets.

About half-way through the second one at the moment and that's cracking only nicely.

Wow! I've been told...FOUR TIMES! Which is totally cool by me. I'm just surprised. Last time I heard either one mention the other one, things were still MORE than a lil awkward between them. They had seemed to bury their contempt for one another, but didn't sound like they were ever gonna work together again. I wonder what changed. Maybe they're both old enough to let bygones be bygones? Or did the chief Kaled work some kind of strange magic to make that happen? Either way I'm glad, if a wee bit shocked.

On the TB@80, he talks about it for a minute or two. They do talk and have done the con circuit together. Speaking from the experience of having an ex, I will say that we will never be cordial, but we do get along bracingly enough.


So it might be like that with them. Plus 30ish years is a lot of water under the bridge. For awhile Lou didn't think much of him either and look at that relationship now!

I would be interested to know if they have recorded them together or not. I suppose in the grand scheme of things it makes no difference, but would be nice to think they have buried the hatchet after all this time.


well the thing is even in the other instances the voice actors never reall see the 4th medic when they are acting but only hear him . as he is usually in on separate days or in another booth sight unseen.-- mainly they get together for the photo shoots and lunches

Thanks for re-uping those for me, Ironhead2. Much appreciated.


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You know Ironhead I was getting ready to additionally thank you for the BTS extra you generously supplied to The Planets.. set which I didn't originally see when I first DLed Davros' post.

But then you go ahead and repost dw's post on your own proving to me your not Ironhead 2, but IH No.1.

Thanks a lot pal.

Oh, and as for GG's comment regarding the other (Cough) site, one issue I have with it is, I don't see the latest LC stuff there when I look and no one alerts us if it is there.

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You know Ironhead I was getting ready to additionally thank you for the BTS extra you generously supplied to The Planets.. set which I didn't originally see when I first DLed Davros' post.

But then you go ahead and repost dw's post too on your own proving to me your not Ironhead 2, but IH No.1.

Thanks a lot pal.

Oh, and as for GG's comment regarding the other (Cough) site, one issue I have with it is, I don't see the latest LC stuff there when I look and no one alerts us if it is there.

On the subject of Lalla and Tom-I read an article where she touched briefly on the subject and she explained that their separation was a mutual decision that had nothing to do with any kind of animosity. Nor did it have to do with their vast age difference. (he was in his late 40s while she was in her mid-20s) She claimed that it was their careers that broke up the marriage. Due to various acting commitments she says that they spent more time apart than together and realized that it made no logical sense to stay married.

Bollocks!

Had to revert to an old phone after I dropped the last one in a pond (Don't ask).

Had my listening lined up for the day whilst I was at work. Inserted the SD cards and then realised it didn''t have an M4b player installed and no signal or WiFi to download one.

And again Bollocks!

Bollocks!

Bollocks, indeed.

i ask this a while back but anywhere i could get started on doctor who audio dramas? would look through the thread for suriving share links but i rather not spend a day and age pilfering from 1000+ pages. any help would be great.

Arghh...No SD slot on Nexus 7.

But OTG cable and 99p shop card reader works but still a PITA!

i ask this a while back but anywhere i could get started on doctor who audio dramas? would look through the thread for suriving share links but i rather not spend a day and age pilfering from 1000+ pages. any help would be great.

Not unlike you, I don't want to spend a day and an age looking over the last thousand pages. Since the main range has many layers of stories built up over the last 15 years, the best recommendation I can give is to go to tABB and search for their LC torrent. It is pretty massive, but you will get everything up to 2012 or so. Then the rest are easily searchable on the same site.

And this thread has nothing.

For the last year or so, uploaders have only been leaving their links active for a few days to avoid their accounts being frozen by Johnny Law.

Links older than that have expired or been murdered.

And this thread has nothing.

For the last year or so, uploaders have only been leaving their links active for a few days to avoid their accounts being frozen by Johnny Law.

Links older than that have expired or been murdered.

Also true.

Arghh...No SD slot on Nexus 7.



That's why I went with a Samsung Galaxy 4. Should be here tomorrow!

i ask this a while back but anywhere i could get started on doctor who audio dramas? would look through the thread for suriving share links but i rather not spend a day and age pilfering from 1000+ pages. any help would be great.
Try Ulozto.net or myfreemp3.eu. both sites have nearly all of the LC audios, though you may need to do a little creative searching in some cases. 4shared.com also has some audios available. Hope this helps.

tABB? is that abrevation of a site? cause im not sure i went to the right place, going to the wrong torrent site can spell virus problems for anyone and dont want to get stuff from dodgy places yknow?

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DO NOT go to the 2nd site Webs01 mentioned!!! Not even to see why. It is currently "under investigation" from those claiming to be the authorities.

T*h*e*A*u*d*1*0*B*0*0*k B*a*y I think?

That's the one. If you're OK with p2p then it's definitely the best place to start if you've got a lot to get.

On the subject of Lalla and Tom-I read an article where she touched briefly on the subject and she explained that their separation was a mutual decision that had nothing to do with any kind of animosity. Nor did it have to do with their vast age difference. (he was in his late 40s while she was in her mid-20s) She claimed that it was their careers that broke up the marriage. Due to various acting commitments she says that they spent more time apart than together and realized that it made no logical sense to stay married.

Nah, she HATED him - listen to any of her commentaries (except the last 1 or 2) for proof. She was a right cow about him sometimes, and always got at least one go at him in there. That's probably why she & Dawkins get along so perfectly: like attracts like...

Thom being Thom, however, couldn't give a monkey's one way or the other (Quote: "I think I was married to her once")... ;P

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A while back someone was after a war doc figure. I notice popcultcha.com.au have them back in stock for $29.99 Aus.

DO NOT go to the 2nd site Webs01 mentioned!!! Not even to see why. It is currently "under investigation" from those claiming to be the authorities.That's new. Site worked fine day before yesterday.

That's new. Site worked fine day before yesterday.

Seems fine to me. The site helped me fill in my collection.

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Seems fine to me. The site helped me fill in my collection.

Double checked and the site says it is being investigated. Can't tell if real or somebody's hack.

DO NOT go to the 2nd site Webs01 mentioned!!! Not even to see why. It is currently "under investigation" from those claiming to be the authorities.


We find your lack of faith in authority... disturbing.

Those claiming to be the authorities have been alerted to your suspicious behaviour.
Your Zero Room privileges are hereby suspended pending further investigation.


All other citizens of this forum: Please disregard this notice. You may carry on, confident in the knowledge that no one is watching you.

A while back someone was after a war doc figure. I notice popcultcha.com.au have them back in stock for $29.99 Aus.

That is pretty good, it was me looking for one wife found one in America which was about 25 quid including delivery. she's got it for me as a late birthday present, but i think this one is about 20 quid including delivery which considering it's from aus is very good

Thank you Looshkin!!! I felt like I was in some weird version of 1984, where everyone decided to re-write the past and no one told me.

Of course, Ironhead2 just reinforced that feeling. Or is that "re-enforced" in newspeak?

Is it me or does the villain in The Worlds sort of belittle the impact of the Meister by having all of his powers (including is plot device-powered unkillability?

Is it me or does the villain in The Worlds ...

Oi! Spoilers, ol' bean! Spoilers!

New Medic ebooks. azw (not protected) and epub. enjoy.

RWQ

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Oi! Spoilers, ol' bean! Spoilers!

Sorry! Thought I was being vague enough. Adjusted!

And this thread has nothing.

For the last year or so, uploaders have only been leaving their links active for a few days to avoid their accounts being frozen by Johnny Law.

Links older than that have expired or been murdered.

Links can be regenerated.
The Cloud is us.

Sorry! Thought I was being vague enough. Adjusted!

Cheers!

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Arghh...No SD slot on Nexus 7.!

Which is why I'm looking at the Asus Memo 7 - Asus make the Nexus, and their 7 looks to be a reasonable 'budget' Nexus. And has SD card slot.

Anyone happened upon the Factor yet?

Anyone happened upon the Factor yet?

The Ω actorF (read by Lεεla)
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you mean this?

Thank you Ironhead 2

Much obliged Ironhead, and yeah I mean that :p

The second DT10 graphic work from Saturn VI mags came a while back... Has anyone come across the 2nd MS11 one, or has it not been released yet? Have any PC12 ones been released?

Yup.

ComicList: The New Comic Book Releases List (http://www.comiclist.com/index.php)

The second DT10 graphic work from Saturn VI mags came a while back... Has anyone come across the 2nd MS11 one, or has it not been released yet? Have any PC12 ones been released?

Another month until PC, but the second eleven is out. ULing now, link soon.

EDIT: as promised...

RWQ

<http://www.mediafire.com/download/h8mkdgk9tx0k05i/11_#2.cbr

I'm downloading the two new Monthly stories from LC right now. I have to go to work, so I won't be able to post them until late this evening.

I'm downloading the two new Monthly stories from LC right now. I have to go to work, so I won't be able to post them until late this evening.
Appreciated as always.

I'm downloading the two new Monthly stories from LC right now. I have to go to work, so I won't be able to post them until late this evening.

Thank you dwst4, something to look forward to.

3/4 of the way through Wurlds and finding it rather fun. Interesting to note that (and I don't think this is really a spoiler) the 4th adventures Hairnets Net, et al, are now part of the LC canon.

New Medic ebooks. azw (not protected) and epub. enjoy.

RWQ




Legendary! I'll edit this post with a link to PDF versions shortly, thanks!

3/4 of the way through Wurlds and finding it rather fun. Interesting to note that (and I don't think this is really a spoiler) the 4th adventures Hairnets Net, et al, are now part of the LC canon.

I enjoy that Wurlds confirms my previous belief that MeisterMind is the best story that came out of the CCs.

3/4 of the way through Wurlds and finding it rather fun. Interesting to note that (and I don't think this is really a spoiler) the 4th adventures Hairnets Net, et al, are now part of the LC canon.

So far enjoyed all of this months releases!

I enjoyed the first Hunchcliff story. I know it was long, but it was nice to have a slower pace story for a change.

The second story was okay. I think I'll get more out of it on a second listen.

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Medic 7 Monthlies are up.

First link: Medic 7 Displays and Miracles
Second link: Medic 7 Masque of Sadness

Due to some people who have more of a life on weekends than I do, I'll leave the links up until Monday evening. After that, they will come down.

Please realize, I work long hours now and reposting links, while not difficult, is not always convenient during the week. If people miss my original postings, I would greatly appreciate other members of the board stepping up to re-post. Again, thanks goes to Ironhead2 for re-posting the Hunchcliff stories. He really did save me a lot of trouble.

Happy listening!

And while you're waiting for your downloads, here's a link to a montage of Giles (from Buffy the Vampire Slayer) getting knocked out. Anthony Head sure knows how to take a fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uge0nZDI6g

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I enjoyed the first Hunchcliff story. I know it was long, but it was nice to have a slower pace story for a change.

The second story was okay. I think I'll get more out of it on a second listen.

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Medic 7 Monthlies are up.

First link: Medic 7 Displays and Miracles
Second link: Medic 7 Masque of Sadness

Due to some people who have more of a life on weekends than I do, I'll leave the links up until Monday evening. After that, they will come down.

Please realize, I work long hours now and reposting links, while not difficult, is not always convenient during the week. If people miss my original postings, I would greatly appreciate other members of the board stepping up to re-post. Again, thanks goes to Ironhead2 for re-posting the Hunchcliff stories. He really did save me a lot of trouble.

Happy listening!

And while you're waiting for your downloads, here's a link to a montage of Giles (from Buffy the Vampire Slayer) getting knocked out. Anthony Head sure knows how to take a fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uge0nZDI6g

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Thanks once again dw for playing Santa to us.
Your a pal.
Hope those long hours your putting in earn you some very long bread. You deserve it.

I just checked and myfreemp3 is still active and accessible if you use this alternate address-myfreemp3.cc

I enjoyed the first Hunchcliff story. I know it was long, but it was nice to have a slower pace story for a change.

I think it's a bit of 'nature of the beast' for me. I tend to listen to the whole play in one sitting, and 2CDs feels to be just the right time - even if that 'right'ness is born out of habit. (If you see what I mean). It feels 'odd' having to actually pace yourself for a longer story like this and some of the 'Lost' stories.

But, on the whole, this was a brilliant set. Hope they do more, and I suspect he could do great things for 8th given the chance.

I think it's a bit of 'nature of the beast' for me. I tend to listen to the whole play in one sitting, and 2CDs feels to be just the right time - even if that 'right'ness is born out of habit. (If you see what I mean). It feels 'odd' having to actually pace yourself for a longer story like this and some of the 'Lost' stories.

But, on the whole, this was a brilliant set. Hope they do more, and I suspect he could do great things for 8th given the chance.

I listen to two episodes back-to-back, take a break (usually to do chores) and then come back to listen to two more episodes back-to-back. I guess that's why this six parter didn't feel like such drag for me. I was able to stop and process what was going on. I find that's the best way to get through some of the audio stories, especially some of the more abstract tales. Although, if the story really grabs my attention, I'll go through it all in one sitting.

Thanks again DWST4!!!

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Has anyone found a cover for Fate of the Medic bonus CD?

I listen to two episodes back-to-back ....

Mrs N does the same. Her trip to/from work just fits a CD so she'll normally listen then. I work from home so it's so easy just to put one on and let it run.

Mrs N does the same. Her trip to/from work just fits a CD so she'll normally listen then. I work from home so it's so easy just to put one on and let it run.

I USED to work from home (ahh... but didn't have Medic Audios at the time), but these days only get to listen while taking long drives.
(Each family member lives 2 hours away so visiting means one 2-hour audio each way)
But, it looks like I may be getting a new gig soon in NY with a MONSTER commute, so I should be able to listen to several audios per day.
*fingers crossed*

Really enjoying the creepiness of the TV this week right up to the point where ...


... it all got all self-referential with Clara turning up on homeworld and doing the whole self-fulfilling prophecy stuff.

Reply...

But if that's a dream every one has, then she is going to get shattered into a hundred trillion trillion pieces and do it to everyone... or (Yes, Hitchhikers, I know.) spend a hundred trillion trillion years tracking down everyone that had ever been born, and pull their leg?

Thanks again DWST4!!!

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Has anyone found a cover for Fate of the Medic bonus CD?

There's a bonus CD?

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Well my life sucks. Two days in a row upon which I was at my public library, I had some high school aged girl making googly eyes at me:

Thurs. Sept. 4th:
Shortly after 3pm at the library, I was sitting at Internet station 3. I looked up at one point to see a high school aged girl smiling at me as she locked eyes with me, as she headed strait to the teen room. She seemed vaguely familiar and I decided to past it off as that she may have been trying to figure out if she knew who I was. I later determined that she was a semi regular attendant of the library's Doctor Who Club.

Fridaday Sept. 5th:
On my way home from the library near one of Gladstone's main intersections just after 3pm I saw a high school aged girl walking toward me, as I was about to pass her I saw that it was the same girl from the day before. She was smiling at me again while making direct eye contact. We passed each other, moments later I got the impression I was being watched, as I kept walking I turned my head back to see the girl looking back at me still smiling at me.

WTF?!?!?!? My instincts are to avoid the library and the Doctor Who Club. Though one of my friends advised me to nip the whole thing in the bud and talk to the girl making it clear that I'm not interested, and getting it through to her that any man my age who was interested would be a great danger to her and that she needs to stay well clear of such men.

The whole thing is giving me the creeps, and for a brief while I had the determination to address the issue if I did see her again, but it's been over a week now. And that means my cowardice is in full effect again.

I'm dreading this month's DW Club meeting, what if that's the next time I see the kid? That would just ruin the Club for me.
...Maby I should just quit and hide in my house forever.

Has anyone found a cover for Fate of the Medic bonus CD?

The only one I could find is this small 298x300 image, which is ok for picture taging your music files, but not much else really.

- Australian Music Books (http://ozmusicbooks.com/product/meeting-destiny-cd/)

For anyone who hasn't got the bonus disc...

BBC - Destiny of the Doctor - 12 - Meeting Destiny MP3 downloads | www.MyFreeMp3.cc (http://www.myfreemp3.cc/l/-42102992_248986867/)

There's a bonus CD?

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Well my life sucks. Two days in a row upon which I was at my public library, I had some high school aged girl making googly eyes at me...
...
I'm dreading this month's DW Club meeting, what if that's the next time I see the kid? That would just ruin the Club for me.
...Maby I should just quit and hide in my house forever.

As a serious answer, probably the best time to address this is at the next meeting, where you won't be alone with her, and to talk about some other girlfriend that you have (even of you don't).

As a non-serious answer...
"Your 40, she's 10" - classic Abbott & Costello (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO6JcXXAqec)


For anyone who hasn't got the bonus disc...

BBC - Destiny of the Doctor - 12 - Meeting Destiny MP3 downloads | www.MyFreeMp3.cc (http://www.myfreemp3.cc/l/-42102992_248986867/)

That source is coming up as unavailable.

Jlm. You may think that having a child attracted to you is awful, but it could be worse.

Is there any chance that she is your illegitimate lovechild who needs a kidney no one told you about?

And that's not the wost of it.

You're in recovery, missing a kidney when you get a letter from her mother's solicitor demanding 16 years back pay on child support.

Whoever told you to approach her does not live drowning in an appropriate amount of fear.

Adult men do not approach young girls.

They lie.

You could have been asking for directions to the gas station, but they tell the pigs that you were trying to buy their used panties.

All they have to do is scream because they think it's funny, and you're off to the copshop.

You need to bring your own female with you to monitor the situation, or maybe have your cellphone set to record.

She's probably a halfwit.

Although if she is from the Doctor Who group, odds are that she's there with her parents, and those people that made her, you will recognize, and then of course this girl should have been allowed to smile and wave towards you , because you are their parents friend.

Completely innocent.

Although.

No matter what happens.

Keep an eye on your kidneys.

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As a serious answer, probably the best time to address this is at the next meeting, where you won't be alone with her, and to talk about some other girlfriend that you have (even of you don't).

As a non-serious answer...
"Your 40, she's 10" - classic Abbott & Costello (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO6JcXXAqec)



That source is coming up as unavailable.

Other place.

Fate of the Medic.

COUGH!

Just watched this week's episode and I thought it was brilliant.

I won't leave any spoilers, but noticed in the trailer for next week's they splashed a few images on a screen - including slitheen, sensorite, tricker, terileptil and......Abslom Daak!!!!! So I guess that makes him canon now. Do you think that automatically makes all the comics canon?

Sorry for the rant guys it's been bothering me for a week. But thanks for the support.

Illegitimate daughter? Kidney? Hmmmm.... So guy, have you been watching the US version of Shameless, perchance?? ;P

Not very helpful, I know, but kinda funny I read this while watching the episode of The Office US where Andy doesn't realise he's made out with a High School girl...

thanks dwst4

I keep meaning to try out Shameless.

Finishing off Being Erica at the moment, which has had nothing to do with kidneys.

I enjoyed this weeks episode... but then, I have enjoyed every episode so far.

Really loved all the callbacks in this one, the paper made me laugh.

Hello.

Hello?

My episode scorecard so far
Deep Breath-7
Into the Dalek-8.5
Robots of Sherwood-6
Listen-9
Still hate the new version of the theme.

My episode scorecard so far
Deep Breath-7
Into the Dalek-8.5
Robots of Sherwood-6
Listen-9
Still hate the new version of the theme.

You're not the only one. The new theme feels like a practical joke that Moffet is pulling on the audience.

I love it for some reason, I think it's because it reminds me of all the 80s themes combined with a bit of orchestra. Also, anyone have any opinions regarding whether or not the Medic was really onto something? I thought this would be a fun discussion to have while we wait for the next wave of Audios. In my opinion, the Medic was onto something and aralC was responsible for creating a paradox that let those creatures off the hook by drawing suspicion away from them. Lucy buggers. ;)

my scorecard is the same but i rated the Outlaw episode higher..... the only drawback there was the edit

Deep Breath -------- 02.0
Into the Dalek ------ 06.0
Robots of Sherwood- 07.0
Listen -------------- 03.0
(next week) -------- 01.0

There's a bonus CD?

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Well my life sucks. Two days in a row upon which I was at my public library, I had some high school aged girl making googly eyes at me:

Thurs. Sept. 4th:
Shortly after 3pm at the library, I was sitting at Internet station 3. I looked up at one point to see a high school aged girl smiling at me as she locked eyes with me, as she headed strait to the teen room. She seemed vaguely familiar and I decided to past it off as that she may have been trying to figure out if she knew who I was. I later determined that she was a semi regular attendant of the library's Doctor Who Club.

Fridaday Sept. 5th:
On my way home from the library near one of Gladstone's main intersections just after 3pm I saw a high school aged girl walking toward me, as I was about to pass her I saw that it was the same girl from the day before. She was smiling at me again while making direct eye contact. We passed each other, moments later I got the impression I was being watched, as I kept walking I turned my head back to see the girl looking back at me still smiling at me.

WTF?!?!?!? My instincts are to avoid the library and the Doctor Who Club. Though one of my friends advised me to nip the whole thing in the bud and talk to the girl making it clear that I'm not interested, and getting it through to her that any man my age who was interested would be a great danger to her and that she needs to stay well clear of such men.

The whole thing is giving me the creeps, and for a brief while I had the determination to address the issue if I did see her again, but it's been over a week now. And that means my cowardice is in full effect again.

I'm dreading this month's DW Club meeting, what if that's the next time I see the kid? That would just ruin the Club for me.
...Maby I should just quit and hide in my house forever.

You need to regenerate into a Capaldi look-a-like. That should put her right off.

You need to regenerate into a Capaldi look-a-like. That should put her right off.
Go Hartnell or go home.

Let us not forget that teenage girls are a much different beast than adult women. She might just be trying to intimidate you.
I recommend getting a manly shirt like this for your next meeting

Report back the results!

That source is coming up as unavailable.

It works fine for me, but it may depend on what browser your using.

My episode scorecard so far
Deep Breath-7
Into the Dalek-8.5
Robots of Sherwood-6
Listen-9
Still hate the new version of the theme.

That's probably just about how I'd rate them. I might go a bit higher for this week's.

And yes, I HATE the new theme arrangement! It's the first one that truly bothers my ears.

So, who exactly was in the bed in the scene with Rupert? Did I miss the explanation?

After re-watching this weeks offering I'd give the following ratings:

Deep Breath 8.0
Into the Dalek 6.0
Robots of Sherwood 7.0
Listen 3.5

There were Clockwork Androids under Reinette's bed.

Did they grab a leg?

Oh, and it's finally Canon.

You're only a Timelord if you graduate the Academy.

You didn't notice that bit?

Also, the medic doesn't sleep "now" but he did as a child, so when did he stop?

So, who exactly was in the bed in the scene with Rupert? Did I miss the explanation?

The whole point is that it doesn't matter.

So, who exactly was in the bed in the scene with Rupert? Did I miss the explanation?

It was just a kid playing a trick. But, as has been more elegantly stated, it doesn't really even matter.

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There were Clockwork Androids under Reinette's bed.

Did they grab a leg?

Oh, and it's finally Canon.

You're only a Timelord if you graduate the Academy.

You didn't notice that bit?

Also, the medic doesn't sleep "now" but he did as a child, so when did he stop?

I guess after so many years of sleeping, it wears thin.

Regarding who was lurking under the red cover in Listen.

Well, obviously it was either Medic 4 or 8 taking part in the sequel to The Five(ish) Doctors!

Regarding who was lurking under the red cover in Listen.

Well, obviously it was either Medic 4 or 8 taking part in the sequel to The Five(ish) Doctors!

It was only a short guy, so must have been Definitive Medic 7....8)

I am enjoying all the crazy fan theories about the kid under the bed being The Silence/Some Amazing New Monster.

Have all these people really never been scared by a kid hiding with a halloween mask on?

Okay, I know this is going to be a tiny thing for most people but, what's with the reference to the Okapi in the Ghosts story in PH Presents box set?
It's supposed to be set in 1860 - if I'm not mistaken - and I believe the Okapi wasn't discovered/known about by westerners until late in the 1800s (about 1887?) and wasn't widely known about until about 1901.
So why is there one on the wall in the manor and how can they know what the Medic is talking about when he names it?

An adverse accidental anachronism against artiodactyl animalia....as Jago might say! If it wasn't 40 years before his time.

It was probably Clara.

Okay, I know this is going to be a tiny thing for most people but, what's with the reference to the Okapi in the Ghosts story in PH Presents box set?
It's supposed to be set in 1860 - if I'm not mistaken - and I believe the Okapi wasn't discovered/known about by westerners until late in the 1800s (about 1887?) and wasn't widely known about until about 1901.
So why is there one on the wall in the manor and how can they know what the Medic is talking about when he names it?

An adverse accidental anachronism against artiodactyl animalia....as Jago might say! If it wasn't 40 years before his time.

How did Ace know about Buzz Lightyear in BF189?

How did Ace know about Buzz Lightyear in BF189?

It's pretty obvious that she's using time travel to sample future "culture" eg Hollyoaks in 190

Dr Who fan here since Pertwee era...

So, new series...

Ep 1 - Pretty lame. Very disappointed that they didn't take a more serious tone with it instead of the Carry On Film slapstick it seems to be degenerating into these days. They missed an opportunity here to make it fresh again, dial back the kid's show syndrome and use Capaldi to his fullest.
Ep 2 - Dalek's Indigestion - Mildly interesting view of a Dalek's interior and what could have been good battle scenes let down by mediocre writing IMO.
Ep 3 - Robot Of Bonkers - Just ludicrous - especially the final arrow shooting scene. Enjoyed the Clara moments with the Sheriff and thought Capaldi was having fun exploring his character's spectrum of emotions / acting but again - the writing was just terrible.
Ep 4 - Keep Listening...Please - Most interesting episode so far - Completely different tone. After a discussion with BF about whether we'd even watch "Listen", can safely say we'll be giving it another week of viewing after finally seeing Capaldi let loose to deliver some darker, weightier Who.

Oh and most of the Big Finish stuff just puts the TV episodes to shame.

I wish the BBC would also consider re-making all the lost William and Patrick episodes in a similar style to "An Adventure In Time And Space" or just re-make the lost stories in a more modern way. At least new fans would get to enjoy some of those great stories and older fans would finally get to see the stuff they've been missing all these years.

I was really enjoying this weeks episode! and then Moffat decided to be himself and retch up all kinds of retcon into it...
still overall for me it was the strongest of the new episodes.

poor Clara, first scattered thru out the time vortex to save ALL the Doctors....and now relegated to grabbing peoples ankles inunder eons of beds...and is it just me or is Pink Blue's supposedly dead brother?

I summoned a pony with my Dr.Whooves pic a few posts back, didn't I?

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I wish the BBC would also consider re-making all the lost William and Patrick episodes in a similar style to "An Adventure In Time And Space" or just re-make the lost stories in a more modern way. At least new fans would get to enjoy some of those great stories and older fans would finally get to see the stuff they've been missing all these years.

Absolutely agree, but they would likely have both the current show and the re-makes share budgets. While there is something to be said about the old series, the new one will always make more by virtue of it's ingrained appeal with the current audience.

I wish the BBC would also consider re-making all the lost William and Patrick episodes in a similar style to "An Adventure In Time And Space" or just re-make the lost stories in a more modern way. At least new fans would get to enjoy some of those great stories and older fans would finally get to see the stuff they've been missing all these years.

Well, there's the LC 'Lost Stories' range that have as many of the available cast as they can. I'd rather have them than some 'understudy' doing the parts.

Or do you mean the Missing stories? Nah, happy enough with the narrated audio we've already got (though some of them could probably do with some work using the latest tools to clean up the tracks a bit more).

So, who exactly was in the bed in the scene with Rupert? Did I miss the explanation?

The whole point is that it doesn't matter.

It matters if Rupert ever wants his blanket back.

It matters if Rupert ever wants his blanket back.

ah man! it TOOK the blanket??? That sucks dude... I thought it just dropped the blanket and ran... :D
...poor Rupert...

I need to have a small rant. I have loved DW since Peter Davison took over as the Doctor (whe I started watching). I embraced NewWho and loved it. But it has all crashed down for me with Series 8 (althougn it has been heading downhill since Moff took over).

Even though stylistically it looks better than it ever with great direction and sets, it is falling down on so many fronts for me.

Moffatt seems like a Robert Holmes or a Eric Saward rather than a RTD - ie. he needs a producer as he can't make solid scripts on his own. There were great parts in this weeks episode, as in most weeks, but they never feel structured like a proper story. I have never felt that way about DW before.

Capaldi is undoubtably a great actor but for some reason, even though I saw past Colin Baker as Maxil by Attack of the Cybermen, I can't get the guy from Pompeii out of my head every time I see him. I wonder if it will ever go away as I want it to, it's annoying. He seems to be channelling more Colin Baker (pre LC) than Tom Baker to me.

I don't like the theme tune, I even prefer the one from Dimensions in Time!

I feel like I've become old and grumpy at 40 but I feel it's time for new blood producing DW already. Someone told me Moff is planning on staying for Season 10. What an egotist, he has had the 50th, the first regeneration cycle (which he accelerated so he would get it) now he wants Season 10. Grrrr.

The best things about the Moff era are Clara and River, two strong, likeable women although overcomplicated by the Moff and his poor scripting. I think the reason he did so well in the RTD days was he had someone to force a satisfying format on him, RTD knew a good story and structure that satisfied. Left alone we end up with this week's episode which was like the terrible third part of a trilogy with Fear Her (not Moff I know) and Night Terrors. I'm tired of seeing frightened children... DW had a strength in being pitched at adults and loved by children in the past.

Night Terrors and Listen had potential to be great stories if they had been structured into full stories with a point and resolution rather than nice ideas that Moff had come up with and thrown in rather than making cohesive. having said that, it's how I feel about the Harry Potter movies, they have great characters and "bits" but seem unstructured and flow poorly. Shows like Under the Dome, Hannibal and Misfits keep me entertained each episode without feeling like something is wrong structurally, as there always feels like a point to each episode with dramatic building and resolution. MoffWho doesn't feel like that, I come away unsatisfied to some extent every week.

The best things about the Moff era are Clara and River, two strong, likeable women although overcomplicated by the Moff and his poor scripting..

I argue that the only thing that is really likeable or differentiating about either Clara or River is the overcomplicate storytelling, otherwise, River is an older Rose and Clara is Rose with a different personality but the same general setup.


NOW, that aside, my CD has arrived and I wanted to share it with my fellow long-timers!

I was listening to the Quintessential Phase of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Mostly Harmless) Radio play this morning, and it seems that the tenth planet from our Sun is called "Rupert".

I'm sure the Book was written before Pluto was declassified, but they found some more Pultonian moons which might earn the little bugger reacreditation in the eyes of science.

Regardless, is the tenth planet going to be found by a Pink and named after if not Danny himself, then named after a recent ancestor by one of Rupert's grand babies?

Wonder Woman is a child of Zeus/Jupiter.

As the whole god thing goes, there could be a planet Wonder Woman one day, which is still more likely than a planet Rupert.

OH!

The Cybermen come from the Tenth Planet!

Do the Cyberman come from Rupert?

Are then less scary to be referred to as Rupertonians?

Rupertlings?

Rupert-Men?

Ruperters?

But does this mean that Clara is the Mother of All Cybermen?

The Cybermen come from the Tenth Planet!

Do the Cyberman come from Rupert?

Are then less scary to be referred to as Rupertonians?

Rupertlings?

Rupert-Men?

Ruperters?

But does this mean that Clara is the Mother of All Cybermen?

Rupertoorians.

I thought "Listen" had the courage of it's convictions.

How about a revised draft of the 12th Medic Dalek stor

Wounded Muto, lost both legs. Medic and Clara do fantastic voyage to attempt to repair damage internally, only to realise it's a pre Genesis Davros!
Would give credence to conflict in Medics mind

There is no alien life in the 12 galaxies surrounding (the original) Skaro.

It's pretty obvious that time travelling Daleks cleared those galaxies to reinforce Skarosian xenophobia, before the Thals and Kaleds had harnessed the technology to probe their immediate neighbourhood.

I was listening to the Quintessential Phase of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Mostly Harmless) Radio play this morning, and it seems that the tenth planet from our Sun is called "Rupert".

I'm sure the Book was written before Pluto was declassified, but they found some more Pultonian moons which might earn the little bugger reacreditation in the eyes of science.

Regardless, is the tenth planet going to be found by a Pink and named after if not Danny himself, then named after a recent ancestor by one of Rupert's grand babies?

Wonder Woman is a child of Zeus/Jupiter.

As the whole god thing goes, there could be a planet Wonder Woman one day, which is still more likely than a planet Rupert.

OH!

The Cybermen come from the Tenth Planet!

Do the Cyberman come from Rupert?

Are then less scary to be referred to as Rupertonians?

Rupertlings?

Rupert-Men?

Ruperters?

But does this mean that Clara is the Mother of All Cybermen?

Why not just Ruperts?

or

Cyber-Ruperts?

I thought "Listen" had the courage of it's convictions.

Up until they left the time-station thing I would have agreed with you. A scare story where the only villain was the concept of fear.

And then SM shot his fan-wonk all over the early back-story and continuity.

EDIT TO ADD - UK fans (and those that can convince iPlayer to work abroad) may wish to know that LC's Jon Dawn-y is a contestant in Only Connect (BBC2) this evening.

I need to have a small rant. I have loved DW since Peter Davison took over as the Doctor (whe I started watching). I embraced NewWho and loved it. But it has all crashed down for me with Series 8 (althougn it has been heading downhill since Moff took over).

Even though stylistically it looks better than it ever with great direction and sets, it is falling down on so many fronts for me.

Moffatt seems like a Robert Holmes or a Eric Saward rather than a RTD - ie. he needs a producer as he can't make solid scripts on his own. There were great parts in this weeks episode, as in most weeks, but they never feel structured like a proper story. I have never felt that way about DW before.

Capaldi is undoubtably a great actor but for some reason, even though I saw past Colin Baker as Maxil by Attack of the Cybermen, I can't get the guy from Pompeii out of my head every time I see him. I wonder if it will ever go away as I want it to, it's annoying. He seems to be channelling more Colin Baker (pre LC) than Tom Baker to me.

I don't like the theme tune, I even prefer the one from Dimensions in Time!

I feel like I've become old and grumpy at 40 but I feel it's time for new blood producing DW already. Someone told me Moff is planning on staying for Season 10. What an egotist, he has had the 50th, the first regeneration cycle (which he accelerated so he would get it) now he wants Season 10. Grrrr.

The best things about the Moff era are Clara and River, two strong, likeable women although overcomplicated by the Moff and his poor scripting. I think the reason he did so well in the RTD days was he had someone to force a satisfying format on him, RTD knew a good story and structure that satisfied. Left alone we end up with this week's episode which was like the terrible third part of a trilogy with Fear Her (not Moff I know) and Night Terrors. I'm tired of seeing frightened children... DW had a strength in being pitched at adults and loved by children in the past.

Night Terrors and Listen had potential to be great stories if they had been structured into full stories with a point and resolution rather than nice ideas that Moff had come up with and thrown in rather than making cohesive. having said that, it's how I feel about the Harry Potter movies, they have great characters and "bits" but seem unstructured and flow poorly. Shows like Under the Dome, Hannibal and Misfits keep me entertained each episode without feeling like something is wrong structurally, as there always feels like a point to each episode with dramatic building and resolution. MoffWho doesn't feel like that, I come away unsatisfied to some extent every week.

Then it is time to walk away... there are plenty of people loving it currently.--- a quick review search has the reviews of this episode generally positive and some extremely positive and the negative one are getting like you grousing more about Moffatt than anything else [the moff bashing in some places is getting as tiring as the RTD bashing was back in the day ironically] Just walk away and do the people that are enjoying it a favor and not grouse about something you know now you hate and go in hunting for bear with.

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Up until they left the time-station thing I would have agreed with you. A scare story where the only villain was the concept of fear.

And then SM shot his fan-wonk all over the early back-story and continuity.

EDIT TO ADD - UK fans (and those that can convince iPlayer to work abroad) may wish to know that LC's Jon Dawn-y is a contestant in Only Connect (BBC2) this evening.

curious as why people hate moff for adding to the Legend. yest other writers [Holmes,Dicks, RTD] seemed to get pass when they did it].

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curious as why people hate moff for adding to the Legend. yest other writers [Holmes,Dicks, RTD] seemed to get pass when they did it].

Personally, I have nothing against the Winner of Oz herself. It's the way SM has turned her into a kind of "keystone companion" by making her intrinsically important to the Medic's story and the show as a whole. It's as if SM wants to say "Ah, see, if it weren't for my character the entire show would never have existed!"

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They should do another 200 year jump.

"Why do you keep calling me Lara?"

"Well, that's your name isn't it?"

"Clara with a C, Clara."

"Really? I'll check my diary to make sure."

Yeah, it does seem kind of egocentric. And as much as I enjoyed the anniversary special, that story seemed a bit like he was trying to force the whole thing so that he could have the glory of writing the revitalization crossover, and the return of the chrono-barons. I did like the story, and wouldn't necessarily want it changed at all, it just felt a little like that to me.

Not that any of it really matters in the medic's universe, as seemingly anything can be re-written to happen/not happen/both at the same time/only kind of happen etc. Yay for alternate universes? :) If it's decided by future writers that Carla's importance to the Medic's early life needs to be written out of the show at some later point in time, it's easily done.

that's when i see people gets worked up about things ..just walk away and stop... it'll change in a few years..... all i have to say The Scrapyard ... that rewrote everything... and see how it was was added and left behind? half human? the bloomedpetal show? chronokings change from omnipotent being to petty policticians? ... come on at the end of the day it is you now the show. the show will change bitching about it will accomplish nothing...but every era has rewritten history and added and substracted their own material - moff is no different than any of the other and you are projecting your own emotions and reasons rather than him being egotistical >>>>>>>i doubt this was the though process at all >>>>>.. It's as if SM wants to say "Ah, see, if it weren't for my character the entire show would never have existed!"

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Yeah, it does seem kind of egocentric. And as much as I enjoyed the anniversary special, that story seemed a bit like he was trying to force the whole thing so that he could have the glory of writing the revitalization crossover, and the return of the chrono-barons. I did like the story, and wouldn't necessarily want it changed at all, it just felt a little like that to me.

Not that any of it really matters in the medic's universe, as seemingly anything can be re-written to happen/not happen/both at the same time/only kind of happen etc. Yay for alternate universes? :) If it's decided by future writers that Carla's importance to the Medic's early life needs to be written out of the show at some later point in time, it's easily done.

again you are projecting the egocentric emotions rather than accepting that he is the show runner.

@Tagan&Sarah: please understand that having gripes doesn't mean one considers the show to have no mitigating qualities. "Just walk away" is rude. We could all just walk away, but then we would miss episodes that we could really love.


You don't want to hear griping?
just walk away.

I was listening to the Quintessential Phase of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Mostly Harmless) Radio play this morning, and it seems that the tenth planet from our Sun is called "Rupert".

I'm sure the Book was written before Pluto was declassified, but they found some more Pultonian moons which might earn the little bugger reacreditation in the eyes of science.

Regardless, is the tenth planet going to be found by a Pink and named after if not Danny himself, then named after a recent ancestor by one of Rupert's grand babies?

Wonder Woman is a child of Zeus/Jupiter.

As the whole god thing goes, there could be a planet Wonder Woman one day, which is still more likely than a planet Rupert.

OH!

The Cybermen come from the Tenth Planet!

Do the Cyberman come from Rupert?

Are then less scary to be referred to as Rupertonians?

Rupertlings?

Rupert-Men?

Ruperters?

But does this mean that Clara is the Mother of All Cybermen?


Can I please have some of what you're on?!!!

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@Tagan&Sarah: please understand that having gripes doesn't mean one considers the show to have no mitigating qualities. "Just walk away" is rude. We could all just walk away, but then we would miss episodes that we could really love.


You don't want to hear griping?
just walk away.

Yeah, we all have opinions - it doesn't mean whether we're right or we're wrong. We share our opinions because we're passionate about the show.

Personally I'm really loving this series. I'm stoked that we're having a complete run of episodes this series, rather than the splits of the previous years. I'm loving Cap-aldi too.

BTW sashabot I'm not having a go at you, I'm just re-inforcing what you said :)

Up until they left the time-station thing I would have agreed with you. A scare story where the only villain was the concept of fear.

And then SM shot his fan-wonk all over the early back-story and continuity.

EDIT TO ADD - UK fans (and those that can convince iPlayer to work abroad) may wish to know that LC's Jon Dawn-y is a contestant in Only Connect (BBC2) this evening.
They never said The War Doctor was on Galifrey when he got that big red button.
>_>

@Tagan&Sarah: please understand that having gripes doesn't mean one considers the show to have no mitigating qualities. "Just walk away" is rude. We could all just walk away, but then we would miss episodes that we could really love.


You don't want to hear griping?
just walk away.


just walking away... this was civil until you opened your trap... just walk away shitbot.... sheesh!

Just walk away wasn't rude it was a suggestion that if they feel they don't l;ike it anymore they should not watch something they don't like. You just lost a member of this community goodbye.!

Man, I'm going to join Skutter in getting drunk...

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Yikes, it's a real hornets nest in here tonight. Seems like the latest episode had rubbed some people the wrong way and started an avalanche of vitriol. Need to post a warning sign - Shit storm ahead Beware of flying excrement.

I didn't really like the latest episode, it all seemed a bit of a swiz at the end. It was a great idea for a monster that then just turned out to be Clara.

Just imagine how stupid the whole universe is going to feel after being terrified by 'the monster under the bed' when they found out it was a hot chick instead!

Any how I've been checking under my bed, and all I've found is fluff. If anyone does find a Clara under their bed, its probably mine and they should return her to me immediately. :)

Does anyone know if the 'monster that lives in the wardrobe' will turn out to be a hottie too? I'd be perfectly happy if it was Karen Gillan.

How did Ace know about Buzz Lightyear in BF189?

She mentions The Matrix, too. I gather the TRADIS has a very good selection of movies?? (Or JM just f-ed up!!)

How did Ace know about Buzz Lightyear in BF189? One word, Hex. He was from the mid 21st century after all.

One word, Hex. He was from the mid 21st century after all.

In my opinion, once someone has travelled forwards in time there is no reason they shouldn't become aware of future events/media/celebrities etc.
Don't forget, she first met the Medic on the cold planet in the future, so she may well have come across an ancient personal entertainment device loaded with a range of sounds and/or moving pictures from the 20th and 21st centuries.

Of course, there's also the adventures they go on that we don't get to hear about.....at least until LC gets around to writing, recording and releasing them.

For all we know, she might have even travelled back in time with the Medic and appeared in the Keanu movie herself! 11th got into another fine mess with those B&W comedians after all..

I think the problem comes when they mention events in the future that they can't have known about before travelling in time (applies to companions and other guests/incidental characters......and okapis)!

curious as why people hate moff for adding to the Legend. yest other writers [Holmes,Dicks, RTD] seemed to get pass when they did it].

I just find SM's method just so cack-handed. The whole regeneration recount, for instance.

Big changes should be a Milestone you move forward from; Regeneration, 3rd being stranded on Earth, 4's 'Watcher', 8 kissing a girl (and liking it), RTDs Time War. etc

They shouldn't be Big by dint of going back and fiddling with others stuff.

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Yikes, it's a real hornets nest in here tonight. Seems like the latest episode had rubbed some people the wrong way and started an avalanche of vitriol. Need to post a warning sign - Shit storm ahead Beware of flying excrement.

One would like to think 'Reasoned Adult Debate' rather than 'Vitriol'

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They never said The War Doctor was on Galifrey when he got that big red button.
>_>

It was very heavily implied, though.

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that's when i see people gets worked up about things ..just walk away and stop... it'll change in a few years..... all i have to say The Scrapyard ... that rewrote everything... and see how it was was added and left behind? half human? the bloomedpetal show? chronokings change from omnipotent being to petty policticians? ...

True. But as I said, those sort of things are Milestones. The mark a point where it's easier/better/simpler to move forward and leave to acknowledge as required.

What SM is doing, IMHO, is rather inelegantly showing us who carved those milestones in the first place.

He stole the bomb from Gallifrey itself... Flitting through a pepperpot blockade to get it, and back past it again to go to that shack he lived in as a boy... It was a barn, away from the rest of the Orphanage/Summercamp?

They shouldn't be Big by dint of going back and fiddling with others stuff.....

What SM is doing, IMHO, is rather inelegantly showing us who carved those milestones in the first place.

To be fair to SM, the regeneration limit was a milestone carved years ago that in a matter of a few years would become an issue anyway. When Holmes put a limit on the regeneration cycle it was a bit of a daft thing to do so why not deal with it in the 50th? Why not undo a bit of ill thought out plotting in a big story?

To be fair to SM, the regeneration limit was a milestone carved years ago that in a matter of a few years would become an issue anyway. When Holmes put a limit on the regeneration cycle it was a bit of a daft thing to do so why not deal with it in the 50th? Why not undo a bit of ill thought out plotting in a big story?

Oh, I get that, but I still think it could have been done so much better without having The War Doctor and using up 10th's non-regeneration; that was the recount bit I meant.

The Limit could have been addressed by, say, having The Sisters turn up at Trenlazore, giving him The Potiion, he asks "How many more?" To which they reply "We don't know ..." and nicely leaving it open ended again.

The Limit could have been addressed by, say, having The Sisters turn up at Trenlazore, giving him The Potiion, he asks "How many more?" To which they reply "We don't know ..." and nicely leaving it open ended again.

Good grief, imagine what the "fans" would say if the whole thing was resolved by a magic potion? Almost 40 years of continuity undone with a single line. There'd be outrage. At least the way it was done you can argue that the Time Lords gave him the new cycle for purely selfish reasons and it ties in to an ongoing mythology.

Good grief, imagine what the "fans" would say if the whole thing was resolved by a magic potion? Almost 40 years of continuity undone with a single line. There'd be outrage. At least the way it was done you can argue that the Time Lords gave him the new cycle for purely selfish reasons and it ties in to an ongoing mythology.

Ha! True! Especially if they'd not seen "Night Of ..."

And I'm OK (to a degree) with the 'here, have a bunch more regens for helping us' aspect. My main gripe is the whole number/regeneration juggling.

(the 'to a degree' bit being that I wasn't too impressed with the whole regen energy being used as a superweapon bit. It felt clumsy.)


But to deliberately say something +ve about the current run, Gold's scoring has been superbly subtle and restrained.

Good grief, imagine what the "fans" would say if the whole thing was resolved by a magic potion? Almost 40 years of continuity undone with a single line. There'd be outrage. At least the way it was done you can argue that the Time Lords gave him the new cycle for purely selfish reasons and it ties in to an ongoing mythology.

And matches in with the idea of them also giving the Master a new set..

I don't like all the things Moff has done, but that equally applies to everyone who's been before (and will come after).
Some of the things we think of as being big milestones were just little things that they thought up at the time.

For instance, we hear of the double heart in 3rd's first story (correct me if I'm wrong), but what about all the times he'd been examined previously? No-one ever mentioned him having weird anatomy.

As for the 10th extra regen, we did see it on screen and others, including me, had spoken about/wondered if it counted as a regen, so it wan't exactly Moff's idea. If anything, blame RTD for writing it as a fun cliff hanger and/or CE for not coming back to do the 50th.

What about all the characters who've been killed off (or presumed killed off) and then come back again (eg Davros)? Should we be having ago at the producers/writers who bring them back?

Yeah Moff is the show runner and one of the major writers, but he doesn't write everything either.

If we blame him for everything we don't like, should we also praise him for all the bits we like?

I'm not trying to be pro-Moff here, just trying to be balanced.

Some stuff he (and others) does is great, some not so much. Some of teh stuff I like, others don't (and vice versa). Doesn't stop me loving the show though.

If people get to the point of hating the whole thing, they should stop watching and, maybe, come back later to see if it's changed again. Sure as eggs is eggs, at some point it's gonna be different. AFter all, isn't that why we love it? Isn't that why people love making it? It can be anything in time and space and can be anything for anyone. Good or bad!

My main gripe is the whole number/regeneration juggling.

Again, to be fair to SM, people were already wondering if 10 burnt through a regeneration by coming back as himself and if you've decided to deal with the regeneration limit in the 50th you should probably reach the limit by then. Hopefully one day we'll know how much 9 declining to appear affected the 50th scripting. I do like the idea of the 50th setting it up for the next 50 years though




But to deliberately say something +ve about the current run, Gold's scoring has been superbly subtle and restrained.

I'd agree with that. Hopefully Gold has decided to reign in his "feel this emotion now!" style of bombast.

At least I've not got to the point of not watching at all yet, which is a good thing. There's still enough going on to entertain each week.

I guess 'over analysis' for me probably does stem from SM's way of doing arc stories. All the little details/clues/misdirects scattered through the scripts makes it harder just to enjoy each week as it comes. I like arc/long-term stories that build over time, but not to the point where you're having to keep wondering if what you're seeing is part of a loop you've not seen the start/end of yet.

And, ha-ha, there's never been anything quite as bad as Pertwee's first season. Apart from Inferno there's very little about his first block that makes me want to sit through it all again.

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I like the LOTR books, and I like the movies, but ...

Yeah, I know that feeling. Have friends that just can't understand when I say "I love the movies, but they are terrible adaptations of the book"


Back on the subject of Audio; having fun with 7 and co this month. Very much a Tmrw People feel to 191, I thought.

My only issue with the storyline that Moff is doing is that I find it ridiculous that The Medic needs a detailed backstory. That roots him and makes him human, the companions are the humans, thats why they exist.

Oh and regarding the monthlies, Hextor is now easily competitive with Mel for most womanish shriek.

Yeah, it does seem kind of egocentric. And as much as I enjoyed the anniversary special, that story seemed a bit like he was trying to force the whole thing so that he could have the glory of writing the revitalization crossover, and the return of the chrono-barons. I did like the story, and wouldn't necessarily want it changed at all, it just felt a little like that to me.


Sounds familiar.

Sixie did warn us that there was going to be some dastardly dude in his future who would exploit the Timelord High Council in order to grab up the Doctor's future regenerations for himself.


Moffat is the Valeyard?

(Well it would explain the skull cap.)

Sounds familiar....

HAHA!! That's sublime! :D

:O

All of this Moff bashing I've been reading about (including those who are whining because Capaldi isn't playing the Medic the same as Smith or Tennant) on other sites reminds me of when JNT was running the show. The complaints about Moff are virtually identical to what people said about Turner's tenure. About how he's stayed too long (which in JNT's case was unfortunately true), the writing was subpar, the actors playing the Medic or companions were miscast, so on and so on. Admittedly Moffat has made some missteps along the way (series 6 I'm looking at you) but his tenure hasn't been nearly as disastrous as some make out. Even the oh-so-revered RTD made mistakes as show runner, as have some of the classic series producers. I'd have to say that so far Moff and company have performed adequately this series, producing mostly solid stories and restraining some of the more over-the-top elements of the Smith era. Just my opinion mind.

All of this Moff bashing I've been reading about (including those who are whining because Capaldi isn't playing the Medic the same as Smith or Tennant) on other sites reminds me of when JNT was running the show. The complaints about Moff are virtually identical to what people said about Turner's tenure. About how he's stayed too long (which in JNT's case was unfortunately true), the writing was subpar, the actors playing the Medic or companions were miscast, so on and so on. Admittedly Moffat has made some missteps along the way (series 6 I'm looking at you) but his tenure hasn't been nearly as disastrous as some make out. Even the oh-so-revered RTD made mistakes as show runner, as have some of the classic series producers. I'd have to say that so far Moff and company have performed adequately this series, producing mostly solid stories and restraining some of the more over-the-top elements of the Smith era. Just my opinion mind.

So, without the SM, like RTD, both who loved the programme, where would we be now? We are all human, we all make errors, so, I ask you to enjoy a series, that without them, it would not be on the goggle box. I remember when RTD was poached from ItV he said "only if I can do a new series of the "medic". The CBB moaned, but said ok. Now look at us... at least he's back! Would you rather have just the LC to keep the dream alive? I'm not going to get into any conversations about this, as I just want "Which" to carry on for another half century, no matter how good or bad it is. Johnny notwithstanding Turnabout did his best in the early years, but stayed too long. It was the CBB who told him to carry on, refusing him a move to other projects. At least the RTD had the sense to move on, as Muppet will. I ask myself, once muppet moves on, who will take the baton? Garcia? As with Muppet, his writing can be good, but as a show runner? Personally, I feel that the show runner should be limited to X number of episodes per season, allowing them to concentrate on running the show. It's high profile, and you can't do two jobs at once, unless you have an ego... Rant over!

Capaldi is an old man who has been working for the last 40 years.

There's a good chance that he hasn't seen the medic since 1983, so why would his interpretation be anything like Dave and Matt?

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The Limit could have been addressed by, say, having The Sisters turn up at Trenlazore, giving him The Potiion, he asks "How many more?" To which they reply "We don't know ..." and nicely leaving it open ended again.

Which has all the drama of a wet fart in a rainstorm :P

Capaldi is an old man who has been working for the last 40 years.

There's a good chance that he hasn't seen the medic since 1983, so why would his interpretation be anything like Dave and Matt? It shouldn't. But these young kids who've never experienced any other Doc save Dave or Matt think that their interpretation is how the Doc is supposed to be. Pete is more old school Who and his Doc reflects that, which would explain why the nuwho fans don't like him.

It shouldn't. But these young kids who've never experienced any other Doc save Dave or Matt think that their interpretation is how the Doc is supposed to be. Pete is more old school Who and his Doc reflects that, which would explain why the nuwho fans don't like him.

Must also explain why I love him and am beginning to think he is the best medic since the show returned in 2005!

It shouldn't. But these young kids who've never experienced any other Doc save Dave or Matt think that their interpretation is how the Doc is supposed to be. Pete is more old school Who and his Doc reflects that, which would explain why the nuwho fans don't like him.
I still hold out the belief that true fans will adjust to him. Hell, it happens with all fans every time he regenerates. Its part of the brilliance of the series.

Just so I have this straight:

Newer fans are complaining about the fact that the current Doc is nothing like the ones they know, and are turned off by that fact.

Older fans are complaining that in efforts to tie the new show in with what came before and appeal to older fans, Moff is stepping on the toes of those who came before, even though a show that's been around for 50+ years probably should be building on that 50+ years of mythology to keep the older fans interested, and also using that mythology to draw new fans to what we call "the classic series"

Got it.

The real problem is that the audience is not pacified.

Double the episode count per year.

Add a couple spinoffs.

They'll be too inebriated from media overload to remember how to bitch.

Got it.


Well personally this 'old fa(n)(rt)' would just rather the series stopped trying to be so clever all the time.

The real problem is that the audience is not pacified.
Double the episode count per year.
Add a couple spinoffs.
They'll be too inebriated from media overload to remember how to bitch.
I'd LOVE to see two 10 EP series per year, plus the Xmas specials.

I'd LOVE to see Torchwood brought back, we'll just ignore that American/Canadian season.

I'd LOVE to see another K9 series.

I'd LOVE to see more of the hold 'barely saved' episodes of Classic Who animated.
-Though, with better animation.

Is LC on the verge of announcing another title to their ever expanding rage?

Quatermass

If so, this is one series I'll definatly pre order.

Just to clarify, I've heard about this a few times on other forums, but it's still just a rumour.

I've got to say, as much as I like the concept of the new doctor, the shows really haven't set me alight yet

Is LC on the verge of announcing another title to their ever expanding rage?

I sincerely hope so. There was talk of a new television series or something, and that Hammer were involved. If this has fallen through, LC are right to jump straight in there. It's a title ripe for telling interesting stories. I caught an exchange on Roobarbs once where one guy was saying that to add stories to Quatermass would spoil it and spoil the (basically anti-war) message it had. The other guy simply made the point that the reboots and reimaginings that had worked had done so because, although there is always some new material or updating here and there, they'd managed to stay true to the spirit of their originals. This was certainly true of Smalliville and Battlestar Galactica. The first bloke was having none of it, though.

I'd be happy to see (or hear!) new Quatermass, well produced and thought out. It would need to be tighter and less fanciful than Counter Measures. I wonder who they would get to play the lead.

I must agree that this series is a bit lacklustre, I was just saying as much on another forum.

I'm also not liking the shift of emphasis onto the companion with the Medic taking a lesser role in the stories (so far).

I must agree that this series is a bit lacklustre, I was just saying as much on another forum.

I'm also not liking the shift of emphasis onto the companion with the Medic taking a lesser role in the stories (so far).

Ha! That's exactly the opposite of what my friends and family think.
They're loving the new doc and are glad that he's taking the initiative rather than the companion coming to the rescue (a major complaint they had of the ginger scottish lass).

Personally, I think the new series has been brilliant so far, with the pepper pot one being my least favourite.

I watched the World Tour Special Today... Why?

Sure they need press for the new season, but no one knows who he is and she's abandoning them.

Why bother?

I watched the World Tour Special Today... Why?

Sure they need press for the new season, but no one knows who he is and she's abandoning them.

Why bother?

They know he's the new medic. The second is conjecture and, in any case, she seems a popular companion judging from the crowd reactions. Why not do it?

EDIT: and since you watched it and are talking about it that shows it has succeeded to some degree in getting the show into the public conciousness.

Watching it is easy, I was more thinking about the crowds thronging in the streets treating Peter and Jenna like the second coming of The Beatles, only so that a small fraction of them who paid their ticket vendor US$400 (??) for the privilege of stuffing themselves into an auditorium to listen to them prance about telling...

Conventions are different.

I sincerely hope so. There was talk of a new television series or something, and that Hammer were involved. If this has fallen through, LC are right to jump straight in there. It's a title ripe for telling interesting stories. I caught an exchange on Roobarbs once where one guy was saying that to add stories to Quatermass would spoil it and spoil the (basically anti-war) message it had. The other guy simply made the point that the reboots and reimaginings that had worked had done so because, although there is always some new material or updating here and there, they'd managed to stay true to the spirit of their originals. This was certainly true of Smalliville and Battlestar Galactica. The first bloke was having none of it, though.

I'd be happy to see (or hear!) new Quatermass, well produced and thought out. It would need to be tighter and less fanciful than Counter Measures. I wonder who they would get to play the lead.

I was wondering if they'd ever tackle Quatermass a few hours ago, I hope this turns out to be true.

I was wondering if they'd ever tackle Quatermass a few hours ago, I hope this turns out to be true.

I've never quite 'clicked' with Quatermass. Tried the movies and the Mills TV series (available on YouTube) and its always felt a little dry to me. Like eating a cream-cracker without butter. The only one that I've really enjoyed was the one they did for BBC4 and part of the enjoyment of that was knowing it was being done live. (And, in hindsight, knowing it's also when DT discovered he was taking over from CE.)

I've never quite 'clicked' with Quatermass. Tried the movies and the Mills TV series (available on YouTube) and its always felt a little dry to me. Like eating a cream-cracker without butter. The only one that I've really enjoyed was the one they did for BBC4 and part of the enjoyment of that was knowing it was being done live. (And, in hindsight, knowing it's also when DT discovered he was taking over from CE.)

You need the BBC version of Q and the Pit. Classic!

You need the BBC version of Q and the Pit. Classic!

Yeah, tried that one, too. Still the same dryness.


Finished the latest LC and ...


There's a terrible sense of 'Finality' at the end. That's not the end of 7th's time with LC, is it?

Yeah, tried that one, too. Still the same dryness.


Finished the latest LC and ...


There's a terrible sense of 'Finality' at the end. That's not the end of 7th's time with LC, is it?



That is all the stories he is down for right now, but as he says in the extras; he is excited for where he will go next, given the refurbished Tardis and having had all his companions up to this point in his LC timeline cleaned up (except Ace).

Does anyone have any of the Altered Vistas CGI animations? They sound pretty interesting :)

That is all the stories he is down for right now, but as he says in the extras; he is excited for where he will go next, given the refurbished Tardis and having had all his companions up to this point in his LC timeline cleaned up (except Ace).



Phew! I suppose I'd better give the Extras a listen for a change.

But he's definitely coming back, just not with Ace any time soon?

Phew! I suppose I'd better give the Extras a listen for a change.

But he's definitely coming back, just not with Ace any time soon?


I bloody well hope so!

Does anyone have any of the Altered Vistas CGI animations? They sound pretty interesting :)

I've seen them. Not flashy expensive animation, but bloody good. The ones with lip-sync work better IMHO, but even so, they're very entertaining. For me the success of them is half in the original stories and half the production. Good effort all round, I thought. Definitely brought the comics to life. Pity he didn't go on and do more.

I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, and the ability to rant about it a little if they choose. We all like different episodes, audio stories, writers, and concepts. Our discussions would get very boring if we all thought exactly the same way!

Just because there's an element someone doesn't like, It doesn't mean they suddenly hate the whole thing, or need to stop watching, listening or reading. When there's something I don't like about a show/book/comic whatever, I just enjoy the parts I do like, and ignore the rest. If there's something I really liked, or really didn't like, (And both of those events will occur, regardless of which show/writer/story/etc. There will always be things I like, and things I don't like.) I might share my thoughts on the matter.

I think the same policy is good when it comes to differing opinions, agree with what you agree with, ignore the rest. The other person's opinion is just as valid as yours, and they have just as much right to share. And just as you wouldn't expect everyone to agree with you, they don't expect everyone to agree with them.

I personally don't care for SM's writing any longer, it worked for a bit, and there are a few stories I really liked, but it mostly now feels tired and repetitive to me, like he really only knows how to write a handful of character types and stories. He also seems to have a tendency to sledgehammer points home quite unnecessarily, (I've noticed this in the modern version of S. Ho1mes as well, not at all subtle!) and to write overly dramatic and convoluted stories with lots of loose ends and endings that just sort of fizzle out.

I don't expect everyone else to agree with me on that, it's just my opinion. :)

If anyone here also reads comicbooks (yes, it's one word ;-)) (and yes, many of you probably DO read them) then you're probably familiar with a writer by the name of Bri@n Mich@el Bend!s. He too has many interesting concepts that tend to never properly pan out and end in a fizzle (if they are properly addressed at all), and he too has become a huge, integral part of M@RVEL comics' entire operation.
So, whether you love him or hate him... there he is, and a LOT of his stuff could be described as fan-wank.
But, he (like Moff) is the paid professional in charge, and that makes his fan-wank canon-wank (or fannon).
It's that way in any medium when the fans become the professionals.
All their ideas of how they'd do it better are now seeing the light of day and are the ideas that the current fans are thinking that THEY can do better.

It's all fiction and fiction can be rewritten to accommodate any and all story ideas - even via retcon and the "magic eraser".
Of course, it's better (and far more professional) if the new writer uses a building-technique (or utilizing what has come before to explain his/her new take on things) rather than just pissing all over a previous pro's work and changing/dumping it.

I always liked when an old writer sets something up (like the death of a character) and the new writer has to think of a logical way to bring about the change to that situation (and not just say; "meh... he didn't really die.")

Just sit back, enjoy what you like, try to deal with that which you don't and know that YOU might be able to change what you see as being wrong... just start writing.

Listened to the 191 Extras and feeling a bit more assured about ...


7th's future with LC. For an awful moment there I honestly thought McC had hung up his mic.


Other thoughts ...


Will miss Hex. Don't think Oliver was that great an actor, but I really liked the character and his story. Will have to give his run a complete listen as the dark nights draw in.

What are the Altered Vistas CGI animations? Does anyone have a link?

What are the Altered Vistas CGI animations? Does anyone have a link?





http://www.alteredvistas.co.uk/index.php




Looks like you can get legit copies easily enough.


EDIT TO ADD LATER ...

Something SHMBO just bought up. Slight confusion at the end of 191 ...


The Tardis is rebuilding so, I guess, we're moving into the console room being the one we see at the start of The Movie.

But wasn't it already that configuration for most (all?) of the Hex stories? The background ambient sounds would seem to indicate that?

Listened to the 191 Extras and feeling a bit more assured about ...


7th's future with LC. For an awful moment there I honestly thought McC had hung up his mic.




Good. When I opened your first spoiler, there were suddenly icy tentacles of panic crawling everywhere. I'm terribly behind on the main range but whenever I do attempt to catch up, it's always the ones featuring McC that I reach for first. If he does retire from LC, I'll be retiring them from my drama library until I'm done mourning. Not sure how long that would take. The funny thing is that having actually entertained the thought of no 7 dramas for a few seconds, it's finally dawned on me who my favorite Medic is. (He was my first DW encounter ever, so I guess that's predictable.)

Well personally this 'old fa(n)(rt)' would just rather the series stopped trying to be so clever all the time.

That's my problem too.

http://www.alteredvistas.co.uk/index.php




Looks like you can get legit copies easily enough.


EDIT TO ADD LATER ...

Something SHMBO just bought up. Slight confusion at the end of 191 ...


The Tardis is rebuilding so, I guess, we're moving into the console room being the one we see at the start of The Movie.

But wasn't it already that configuration for most (all?) of the Hex stories? The background ambient sounds would seem to indicate that?


CONVOLUTED THEORY BRINGING TOGETHER MULTIPLE RANGES AND FORMS OF MEDIA WARNING, OPEN AT OWN RISK!

considering Ace saw the NAs in her future and the TARDIS resetting itself to it's 1980s look, I've put this forward as a timeline for 7 & Ace's adventures post Survival:

-Lost Stories (Seven & Ace still quite early on)
-Early BF releases
-Early Hex stories (80s console room, Seven in brown safari get up and pullover)
-Elder God shenanigans (Black and White TARDISes, one continues to use the 80s desktop while the other uses the TVM arrangement (as the TARDIS archives future themes) to help the Doctor tell the difference. This is supported by the fact that the TARDIS engine noise is the same as the one used in the later Seven audios, while the ones shortly after changing the theme retain the 60s-80s version until The Shadow Heart)
-New Adventures (The TARDIS has been reset to it's 80s look after being wiped during the events of Signs and Wonders)
-Lungbarrow (The TARDIS adopts the look of the House of Lungbarrow, >conjecture< the restructured rooms are moved aside as they clutter the control room, Ace joins the academy after being left on Gallifrey >conjecture<
- New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield (Ace and Benny rejoin the Doctor)
-The Prisoner's Dilemma (Benny has left and Ace and the Doctor are travelling alone, Ace has her memory wiped and is only able to recover her pre NAs memories, and believes that she is still a Teenager. Supported by the fact it doesn't fit anywhere during the NAs yet references Benny travelling with them recently.)
-Ground Zero (Apparently Teenage Ace is killed, 80s TARDIS destroyed.)
-The Eight Doctors (Depressed after Ace's death, the Doctor rebuilds the TARDIS based on it's configuration during Lungbarrow.
-Kein Trilogy (The TARDIS engines sound the same as they did during the 60s-80s, the Doctor reacts negatively regarding Klein's questions regarding Ace's whereabouts.
-Late Seventh Doctor stories. (featuring Ace in the Academy during UNIT: Dominion, however this can be cast aside as Ace's message being sent slightly into the future, and Raine not being told about her death.)

And there you have it, how I believe it all fits together. Basically this has been put together with conjecture and small clues and details scattered around the Audios. I hope it makes sense to those of you wondering where these adventures take place.

CONVOLUTED THEORY BRINGING TOGETHER MULTIPLE RANGES AND FORMS OF MEDIA WARNING, OPEN AT OWN RISK!

Haven't read the NA's, so I'll have to take your word for it.

I'd forgotten about the



Black and White Tardis shenanigans.


You know, after all 7th appears to have put old girl through, it's not surprising that The Tardis gets into a right-royal strop in Zaggrayous.

Been away and missed the latest LC Medic monthlies any chance anyone could help me out with links ? Many thanks

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If the rumours of JC/CO's leaving at Christmas turn out to be true. (It was in the Mirror so it must be!)

Can I have Lauren Grace/Kitty as her replacement?

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Thought Auntie was going broadcast this but they didn't/haven't.

Something that should have been done by Captain ALDI but wasn't. From the reviews I was expecting something completely shite, upon listening and despite not being anywhere near as good as the first 2 this third installment made me chuckle a few time's.

Haven't seen it posted here so...

De Ravenge O' de 1st Khing O' Murs. (https://mega.co.nz/#!pcJUWAJC!bnV2tTiIBZnjJug1_NFS2IurqdrPP_qtllloC6N LRxM)

I would happily take a companion that is not a love interest of some sort.

Happy International Talk Like A Pirate day everyone. Shiver me Timbers!!! Had fun with this while doing community radio this morning. Best joke: Why do seagulls fly over the sea? Because if they flew over the bay, they'd be bagels...Ho Ho Ho!!!

Just got a pirate copy of Transformers 4. Optimus Prime just doesn't suit an eyepatch :p

This isn't tremendously important, since we're going to see it next week no matter what happens, but I heard that the first six episodes were leaked. I've only ever seen five. Did anyone ever find the sixth?

Has anyone got a download of the war medic novel?

I think your info might be wrong. Certainly the screendump of the unprotected ftp site I saw only had episodes and scripts for the first five episodes.

Has anyone got a download of the war medic novel?

Mobilism ? Doctor Who: New Series Adventures by Various Authors (.ePUB) (http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=889697)

not my link and it's bundled with Capaldi's new stories...

I ran into someone on a fan club page that claimed to have watched #6 before it was pulled

Mobilism ? Doctor Who: New Series Adventures by Various Authors (.ePUB) (http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=889697)

not my link and it's bundled with Capaldi's new stories...

Thanks very much! I'm really hoping they get John Hurt to read the audio version...

Something SHMBO just bought up. Slight confusion at the end of 191 ...


The Tardis is rebuilding so, I guess, we're moving into the console room being the one we see at the start of The Movie.

But wasn't it already that configuration for most (all?) of the Hex stories? The background ambient sounds would seem to indicate that?

Actually this is what the interior is supposed to look like post season 26 Redirection ( c3009289&ts=1411154735)

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CONVOLUTED THEORY BRINGING TOGETHER MULTIPLE RANGES AND FORMS OF MEDIA WARNING, OPEN AT OWN RISK!

considering Ace saw the NAs in her future and the TARDIS resetting itself to it's 1980s look, I've put this forward as a timeline for 7 & Ace's adventures post Survival:

-Lost Stories (Seven & Ace still quite early on)
-Early BF releases
-Early Hex stories (80s console room, Seven in brown safari get up and pullover)
-Elder God shenanigans (Black and White TARDISes, one continues to use the 80s desktop while the other uses the TVM arrangement (as the TARDIS archives future themes) to help the Doctor tell the difference. This is supported by the fact that the TARDIS engine noise is the same as the one used in the later Seven audios, while the ones shortly after changing the theme retain the 60s-80s version until The Shadow Heart)
-New Adventures (The TARDIS has been reset to it's 80s look after being wiped during the events of Signs and Wonders)
-Lungbarrow (The TARDIS adopts the look of the House of Lungbarrow, >conjecture< the restructured rooms are moved aside as they clutter the control room, Ace joins the academy after being left on Gallifrey >conjecture<
- New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield (Ace and Benny rejoin the Doctor)
-The Prisoner's Dilemma (Benny has left and Ace and the Doctor are travelling alone, Ace has her memory wiped and is only able to recover her pre NAs memories, and believes that she is still a Teenager. Supported by the fact it doesn't fit anywhere during the NAs yet references Benny travelling with them recently.)
-Ground Zero (Apparently Teenage Ace is killed, 80s TARDIS destroyed.)
-The Eight Doctors (Depressed after Ace's death, the Doctor rebuilds the TARDIS based on it's configuration during Lungbarrow.
-Kein Trilogy (The TARDIS engines sound the same as they did during the 60s-80s, the Doctor reacts negatively regarding Klein's questions regarding Ace's whereabouts.
-Late Seventh Doctor stories. (featuring Ace in the Academy during UNIT: Dominion, however this can be cast aside as Ace's message being sent slightly into the future, and Raine not being told about her death.)

And there you have it, how I believe it all fits together. Basically this has been put together with conjecture and small clues and details scattered around the Audios. I hope it makes sense to those of you wondering where these adventures take place.

Nice theory save for one fact, Ace never died. SJ states quite emphatically in 'Funeral of the Medic' that McShane was alive and well and running an organization called A Charitable Earth in 2010.

Actually this is what the interior is supposed to look like post season 26 Redirection ( c3009289&ts=1411154735)

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Nice theory save for one fact, Ace never died. SJ states quite emphatically in 'Funeral of the Medic' that McShane was alive and well and running an organization called A Charitable Earth in 2010.

not to mention that careful listening invalidates a lot of these ideas. Not to further mention that some of those stories occur to an alternate universe Medic and thus that alternate Medics Ace plays no role in the primary timeline.

I know the answer is probably; "sh!te surface-glitz hype-fo-tainment"...
And I KNOW I'm just being hyper-critical (or AM I?), but...

...what the heck is the problem with all those UK CCB Medic What? specials and extras where they have some over-excited V-O announcer talking informational tidbits with various contemporary, minor "celebs" tossing in their own two cents... the FACTS being bandied are often incorrect OR many are omitted.

Case in point: Last night I was watching 2013's "Ult!m@te Gu!de" and among the many irksome moments are numerous glaring errors as well as omitted facts pertinent to the subject which they were discussing; such as completely bypassing MANY companions when giving an account of them.

They omitted so many - mostly early ones (I may have blinked, but I think they skipped the original two!!) and pretty much just name dropped some of the women from 3's time onward.
They skipped over both versions of R0m@na, and 5's girls when discussing female shipmates (among others - they just went from Savage-Lass to "Pert"i, making sure to keep the hotness factor high) and omitted the Ginger-Assassin and Math-boy when discussing the menfolk. Worse yet, no mention of the longest-running mate: Kilt-lad!

They even skimmed over the tin-dog (just a quick video shot, but didn't do more than that! Not even a name drop)!

Also, the clips used were poorly researched (for instance; AC3 is discussing beating a peppot with a baseball bat and they don't show the scene of her really clobbering it, instead just a clip of her giving one a love-tap as she runs away down the staircase... and much of beloved SJS's best scenes are omitted in favor of a few lame clips from Tin-Dog & Co intro credits).
SO... shoddy.

If it weren't for the (then) all-new material of 11 and !mp0ss!ble Grrl at the start and end it would have been utterly worthless.

I've noted this poor production quality in many of these special features (Medics Revisited et. al).


Sorry folks.
It just irritated me and needed to vent to people who'd understand.

/gripe

If anyone here also reads comicbooks (yes, it's one word ;-)) (and yes, many of you probably DO read them) then you're probably familiar with a writer by the name of Bri@n Mich@el Bend!s. He too has many interesting concepts that tend to never properly pan out and end in a fizzle (if they are properly addressed at all), and he too has become a huge, integral part of M@RVEL comics' entire operation.
So, whether you love him or hate him... there he is, and a LOT of his stuff could be described as fan-wank.
But, he (like Moff) is the paid professional in charge, and that makes his fan-wank canon-wank (or fannon).
It's that way in any medium when the fans become the professionals.
All their ideas of how they'd do it better are now seeing the light of day and are the ideas that the current fans are thinking that THEY can do better.

It's all fiction and fiction can be rewritten to accommodate any and all story ideas - even via retcon and the "magic eraser".
Of course, it's better (and far more professional) if the new writer uses a building-technique (or utilizing what has come before to explain his/her new take on things) rather than just pissing all over a previous pro's work and changing/dumping it.

I always liked when an old writer sets something up (like the death of a character) and the new writer has to think of a logical way to bring about the change to that situation (and not just say; "meh... he didn't really die.")

Just sit back, enjoy what you like, try to deal with that which you don't and know that YOU might be able to change what you see as being wrong... just start writing.

Bendis is a perfect example, as his ham-handed, anti-climactic crossovers (that always ended in a fan-favorite character dying for no good reason) and Marvel's insistence on letting him do what he wants are the main reasons why I haven't spent penny one on Marvel comics in years, when I'd been steadily collecting since the mid eighties. And I know I'm not alone. If Marvel was in such tip-top shape, they wouldnt've needed the Disney bailout.

I'm sorry but "you do better, then" is a cop out. To each their own, to be sure, but long-standing fanboys (and girls) can only take so much fan-wank before we say enough is enough. I can deal with Muffit ruining Sherlock, because I can dismiss it as one of MANY shoddy adaptations... but when he introduces his cheap twists into Who, it becomes canon.

Trials and Tribulations on Ultimate Foe still UNBELIEVABLY hard to beat as a Special Feature...


Trials & Tribulations is excellent! I watch it quite often!

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Bendis is a perfect example, as his ham-handed, anti-climactic crossovers (that always ended in a fan-favorite character dying for no good reason) and Marvel's insistence on letting him do what he wants are the main reasons why I haven't spent penny one on Marvel comics in years

Regularly killing off big characters is a Marvel policy, it's got nothing to do with Bendis. All the big heroes that have (temporarily) gone over the last 10 years or so - he didn't write any of those stories. Well, Ultimate Spider-Man, maybe...

Damn. I was really hoping LC Classic Fraank-en-steen would be released this week. I per-ordered it months ago. Really looking forward to that one. Especially as it supposed to be a rainy weekend. Some natural atmosphere to enhance the story.

Oh well. At least I can catch up with the monthlies this weekend.

Trials & Tribulations is excellent! I watch it quite often!

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Regularly killing off big characters is a Marvel policy, it's got nothing to do with Bendis. All the big heroes that have (temporarily) gone over the last 10 years or so - he didn't write any of those stories. Well, Ultimate Spider-Man, maybe...

I beg to differ:

Dissassembled (Hawkeye, Vision, Ant Man)
House of M (Magneto, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch AWOL for years... effectively dead)
Secret Invasion (Wasp)
New Avengers (Brother Voodoo, Carnage, almost all of Alpha Flight)
Siege (Ares, Sentry)

This just off the top of my head (note I said fan favorite, not big characters). And I'm not counting classic characters depowered/ruined/taken out of the picture for years, like Doctor Strange, Doctor Doom and Nick Fury.

not to mention that careful listening invalidates a lot of these ideas. Not to further mention that some of those stories occur to an alternate universe Medic and thus that alternate Medics Ace plays no role in the primary timeline.

I'm pretty sure that the console room from the scrapped season 27 isn't actually canon... I think?

Also out of interest, which ideas are invalidated? I listen quite carefully to LC's stuff and relistened to a few stories when I was making sense of it, though I did make a number of assumptions.
Oh, and I'm personally against the idea of different ranges taking places in Bottle Universes as Marence Liles suggests, especially as every range is referenced some way in every medium, it makes more sense just to brush some things under the carpet and say "it was just the Time War messing about with history" or something about Paction Faradox or the Wime Tyrmm.

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Actually this is what the interior is supposed to look like post season 26 Redirection ( c3009289&ts=1411154735)

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Nice theory save for one fact, Ace never died. SJ states quite emphatically in 'Funeral of the Medic' that McShane was alive and well and running an organization called A Charitable Earth in 2010.

Ah, that's a whole different kettle of fish.
Well, let's not forget that she also says that Ian and Barbra hadn't aged since the 60's. ;)

Oh, and I'm personally against the idea of different ranges taking places in Bottle Universes as Marence Liles suggests

From what I've heard, even Liles eventually decided that this was a bad idea.