Congrats FFS Doctor Who 'fred' on reaching your page 600. I've been away for a few months due to a dead computer - so I'll have a lot of reading to catch up on- I'm happy to be starting page 601

Welcome back wall :)

Hi. Two questions:

1) Is the July CC out yet and if so is there a link?

2) Does anybody have this: Music from the Eighth Doctor Audio Adventures?

Thanks,

Firestars004

Hi. Two questions:

1) Is the July CC out yet and if so is there a link?

2) Does anybody have this: Music from the Eighth Doctor Audio Adventures?

Thanks,

Firestars004

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Congrats FFS Doctor Who 'fred' on reaching your page 600. I've been away for a few months due to a dead computer - so I'll have a lot of reading to catch up on- I'm happy to be starting page 601

And welcome back Wall, good to see you :-)

Thanks for the pm :)

Be glad I'm only on my second pint.

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Ohh and thanks to usual suspect for the recent uploads....would have thanked before but my net connection is at an all time low.

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Bloody connection dropped out twice as I was typing this sentence, very annoying when trying to download anything.

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Edit now i'm double posting somehow and make that four times.

ahhh the joy of wearing Beer goggles! :)

Nice to see you wall...quiet round here innit.

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ahhh the joy of wearing Beer goggles! :)

These are my new beer goggles Newcon NZT-22 Nachtsichtbrille kaufen bei Optical-Systems.com (http://www.optical-systems.com/newcon-nzt22-night-vision-goggles-p-5865.html?currency=GBP&language=gb)

We hear nothing all week then as soon as someone mentions beer - poof - redskutter appears ;)

catnip I tell you.... catnip!!!

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Congrats FFS Doctor Who 'fred' on reaching your page 600. I've been away for a few months due to a dead computer - so I'll have a lot of reading to catch up on- I'm happy to be starting page 601

welcome back buddy! damn those dead computers, damn them all to hell.....(or slough....take your pick!)

(or slough....take your pick!)
there speaks someone that's been there...

there speaks someone that's been there...

Dont remind me....(shudders), sorry to anyone who lives there, but take my advice....MOVE! lol :)

Gosh. According to my iTunes it's been just over two years since I last gave 8+Charley a listen. I feel a summer re-run coming on.

(or slough....take your pick!)

Slough (poem) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_%28poem%29)

To buy or not to buy [the boxset]
that is the question,
whether it is smarter to buy now,
or wait later,
do the slings and arrows of outrageous fortunes
mean that having is better
or to spend until the the card squeals ENOUGH!

apologies to the bard... but the way shows and movies are marketed, is the main reason for piracy.
I spent many years trying to track down episodes of Alien Nation, and 1 day, on eBay, lo and behold, the complete set from China [fully pirated] in region 0, less than the postage on a DVD listed with 1 movie.... did I think, did I care, did I buy...... so I watched episode 1, the smile spreading [option of chinese subtitles switched off] happy day... I did the same with 'Sharpe' staring Sean Bean.

If some backroom pirate can create and sell boxsets, why are we forced into vanilla episode dvd's, 3 episode release, box set, box collection, steel case collectables, Dr '' retro box sets [more than 1 series]...WHY? Because we are that stupid... ['fan': the action of a, or abbreviation of the term; fanatic]... we want, we buy, we complain, we get screwed.

My personal solution, download [yes I know, I know], watch, wait and when the best deal comes... buy.

Does anyone have a copy of the CC called the "KID" featuring aleeL and Medic 4?

My copy is corrupt...thanks in advance

Does anyone have a copy of the CC called the "KID" featuring aleeL and Medic 4?

My copy is corrupt...thanks in advance
hopefully the one in your pm works

Yeah, that's a series I'd like to see on Bluray, except I actually like the CGI especially considering how primitive the equipment was back then. My main problem with the DVDs is the poor quality of the actual encoding - hell I can do a better job with some of the cheap software I've bought.

I'd buy 'em in a heartbeat, but JMS and several others have stated it'll probably never happen, at least not with their knowledge. The problem is, they don't want to just release 'up-scaled' 'as-is' versions, as it would apparently show up way too many imperfections in the effects which, as we all know, are a major component on B5, and we done in SD, so would not sit well in an HD master. They would wish to do a 'trek' style reconstruction with all film elements re-composed & properly HD encoded, etc, with new,and/or 'touched-up' effects. Only trouble is, they apparently no longer have the original CGI/effects materials and to recreate them from scratch would be far too time consuming and expensive.

Mind you, the huge success of the re-mastered/cleaned-up Trek blus have proved this can be profitable for the company and satisfying for the fans, so who knows - maybe Warners may take a punt on testing the waters with a best-of collection one day. I for one hope so... :)

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bought.....BOUGHT.......BOUGHT!!!!!!

*faints*

Sixie? Is that you? ;D

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I remember having a bit of a hard time finding Talons on R1 DVD when it went out of print.... thankfully, Medic NA had some still in stock, but they didn't have as many payment options as they do now. After finally getting it through a mate, they re-released it in less than a year -_- I will probably end up getting it after I finish getting the rest of the TB DVDs I'm missing (only 8 to go, including Sai-gones!)

I resent the lack of information when that happens. There are a few DVDs from other Medic eras that I might consider getting, but don't want to pay scalper prices for. For instance, the Pair of Medics will probably get a spec ed re-release. as it was fairly old... but the Saber-Men Incursion? (the first one to have missing parts filled in by animation) that's fairly recent, and I don't see them re-releasing unless the actual episodes are found. The Chronal Monsters? (Third era serial starring Hammah's own Ing-reed Pett) That only came out in '10!

I dislike paying scalpers, period. But I dislike it even more when they end up re-releasing things down the line.

"Invasion" is still available in Australia, and only costs around $20AU...

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Congrats FFS Doctor Who 'fred' on reaching your page 600. I've been away for a few months due to a dead computer - so I'll have a lot of reading to catch up on- I'm happy to be starting page 601

Oooooh, BOY, have you missed a lot of stuff... :S

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My personal solution, download [yes I know, I know], watch, wait and when the best deal comes... buy.

...and then scream, cry and complain when the supa-mega-ultra-ultimato-supremo-nevertobebettereduntilthenextone edition comes out a year later, featuring extra features you never realised you wanted, but really, really do, re-mastered in holodeck surround picture, and with a free snog from David Tennant/Jenna Coleman (delete as applicaple), all for 10 pounds less than the one you own... :D

I'm still drooling over the idea of a remastered blu ray xfiles... Agent scully wandering around the zero room with a torch with the lights down low... There's a whole show right there

Btw anyone got any working links to counta mesuirs 2?

A humble request for the latest DWM special if anyone has it scanned.

Oh Woe is me.....
I started collecting the DVD editions of DW starting in 2000, replacing a full and complete set of videos
[which are now still packed in a box ready for this 'DVD' rubbish to be over, and back to the ever reliable, good old cassette tape, ... don't laugh too hard, record players and 12" records came back.....]
I looked over the next block of releases, in the next 4 months... remake, remix, repeat, re-release and there on the 30th of September.... the very last release needed for the 'new' collection - "Terror of the Zygons",

How am I supposed to wait until September??? :) 13 Years for 126 releases..... not even 1 a month

{I would only be interested in 'Peri' for the big snog, - The Impossible Girl..., 10 years too young, 5" too short and far too ugly for me :) }

I'm still drooling over the idea of a remastered blu ray xfiles... Agent scully wandering around the zero room with a torch with the lights down low... There's a whole show right there

You do realise that's not what they mean by BLU-ray, don't you??

I'll get me coat... :D

Deceased of Cold has been posted here yet? Thanks!

My heartfelt best wishes go to Lynda Bellingham and her family this morning after reading the terrible news of her diagnosis.

Many of us have felt the presence of this terrible disease either personally or as a family.

Get well soon Lynda.

I bought all every single doctor who video that was released, I even got some of the covers signed. Then DVD were released. Aaaarghhh!! Sold all my videos and started collecting DVD's. Aaarrgh!! Blu Rays. I'm never going to be rich.

I bought all every single doctor who video that was released, I even got some of the covers signed. Then DVD were released. Aaaarghhh!! Sold all my videos and started collecting DVD's. Aaarrgh!! Blu Rays. I'm never going to be rich.

I'm part of that club too I'm afraid. It's hard for me too as I'm only a Disability Pensioner!

Going back to the discussion from a page or two ago about the Blu-Rays of the first four seasons...

The Firefly BDs were mentioned as an up-convert. My understanding was that they went back to the original film elements, but that the effects shots were finished in SD and had to be upconverted for the BDs. So those discs may not be helpful in assessing upconversions from SD, since most of the show actually was authentic HD.

Personally I wouldn't bother with buying an upconversion for the first four seasons. I have the Specials BD with the upconverted Next Medic, and to my eyes it's barely better than DVD - it probably is a better image, if only because there's less compression, but in my view it's not very noticeable and is certainly incomparable to the remaining episodes that were shot in HD.

As for the superiority in general of professional-upconversions over player upconversions - don't be too optimistic about that. I assume the first-4-seasons would undergo a similar conversion process to that of the Next Medic, and to be fair that was a decent upconversion, so these discs would probably be fine. But I have the BDs of season 2 of Star Trek: TOS, and those discs have as a special feature a upconversion of the DS9 episode with the Tribbles that I cannot stand to watch because the upconversion is so bad (it's almost like there's a variable lag in different parts of the image).

Are you sure your on the right thread??

We are wailing about the number of re,re,re,releases, at our cost, and the fact that we fall for it and buy them - that the upgrade is usually for the 'new' format, or to include an 'extra or 2' and you are talking techno babble.

Now the big question... who bought a Laser Disc Player? [yes there are DW out there, on Laser Disc], or...... the defunct, yet better than BlueRay 'other' format.... HD DVD??? Anyone want a copy or two, of DW on BetaMax?

Going back to the discussion from a page or two ago about the Blu-Rays of the first four seasons...

The Firefly BDs were mentioned as an up-convert. My understanding was that they went back to the original film elements, but that the effects shots were finished in SD and had to be upconverted for the BDs. So those discs may not be helpful in assessing upconversions from SD, since most of the show actually was authentic HD.

Personally I wouldn't bother with buying an upconversion for the first four seasons. I have the Specials BD with the upconverted Next Medic, and to my eyes it's barely better than DVD - it probably is a better image, if only because there's less compression, but in my view it's not very noticeable and is certainly incomparable to the remaining episodes that were shot in HD.

As for the superiority in general of professional-upconversions over player upconversions - don't be too optimistic about that. I assume the first-4-seasons would undergo a similar conversion process to that of the Next Medic, and to be fair that was a decent upconversion, so these discs would probably be fine. But I have the BDs of season 2 of Star Trek: TOS, and those discs have as a special feature a upconversion of the DS9 episode with the Tribbles that I cannot stand to watch because the upconversion is so bad (it's almost like there's a variable lag in different parts of the image).

To-May-to, to-mah-to...

I'll still wait and see...

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Are you sure your on the right thread??

Doctor Who AUDIO Drama - Of COURSE it is!! ;)

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Now the big question... who bought a Laser Disc Player? [yes there are DW out there, on Laser Disc], or...... the defunct, yet better than BlueRay 'other' format.... HD DVD??? Anyone want a copy or two, of DW on BetaMax?

I've been fairly lucky with formats in my life - VHS, couldn't afford LaserDisc (y'know, "the future"?), and plumped for BluRay early on - albeit mostly because I thought the cases were nicer!! One of my best friends, who's very techno savvy, owned an LD, and chose HD-DVD, like many other others, because it was apparently a better format. I own his HD-DVD player now - it's a spare DVD machine!! :P

Hello all, I'm new to all this, have been a medic fan since forever.... have I missed this month's main release yet?

Are you sure your on the right thread??

We are wailing about the number of re,re,re,releases, at our cost, and the fact that we fall for it and buy them - that the upgrade is usually for the 'new' format, or to include an 'extra or 2' and you are talking techno babble.

Now the big question... who bought a Laser Disc Player? [yes there are DW out there, on Laser Disc], or...... the defunct, yet better than BlueRay 'other' format.... HD DVD??? Anyone want a copy or two, of DW on BetaMax?
I love collecting DW on other formats I have several VHS and have always wanted it on Betamax even if I don't have the player yet I still love collecting the stuff. I have seen DW on Laser Disc on ebay and I think of amazon but to much for my pocket.

Thanks for all the 'welcome back' messages- very much appreciated. WOW! I've missed a lot- did anyone mention 90 missing Who episodes being returned????? LOL

My 'puter had to be completely rebuilt- luckily my bruv is a PC Genius so it didn't cost me anything, but I lost everything on it (luckily all my downloads are stored on 2 external hard drives -otherwise I would have cried for a whole year, at least)

I was a member of a few other sites but have lost their addys & my sign on so I need to track them down, but that'll give me something to do over the next few days.

The moral of my story is a simple one - DONT let your son download sod all without your supervision (especially games)- if you do. then please don't make the same mistake twice ...... like I did :-(

Thanks for all the 'welcome back' messages- very much appreciated. WOW! I've missed a lot- did anyone mention 90 missing Who episodes being returned????? LOL(

Who knows - it may actually be possible to discuss them like adults now ;)

I need a huge favor please.....
I have been out of work since February and just started working again...

Is there a list of audio since that time that is available?
I just need to know what I missed since that time...
Also, if there are any links, could someone let me know where to find them so I can get caught up?

I would really appreciate it
Thank you for your help!

I need a huge favor please.....
I have been out of work since February and just started working again...

Is there a list of audio since that time that is available?
I just need to know what I missed since that time...
Also, if there are any links, could someone let me know where to find them so I can get caught up?

I would really appreciate it
Thank you for your help!

Wiki will probably be a good place to start with a list of everything. Links will be another thing; with all the scares lately a lot of them will be inactive now I should think.

how about recent links?
just something to get me started.....thank you!

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i feel bad about asking but i wasn't sure where to start....

how about recent links?
just something to get me started.....thank you!

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i feel bad about asking but i wasn't sure where to start....

Any particular series? Or are you looking for everything that's been released?

pretty much everything unfortunately....i didn't have a computer because it died and I am buying a new one in a couple weeks...using work computer for now

pretty much everything unfortunately....i didn't have a computer because it died and I am buying a new one in a couple weeks...using work computer for now

Unless anyone can point you towards any links, all I can suggest is reading back and looking for links (a big job given all the random posts). Sorry I can't be more help but with all the problems I've had uploading anything lately it would take me a month to upload what you're asking for - it's quite a feat going back 5 months :(

I know it's going to be a challenge....
Hopefully, someone could point me in the right direction.....
In the meantime, I will start back in the February posts and start working my way up.....

Who knows - it may actually be possible to discuss them like adults now ;)

nah.....I doubt it! lol we are all big kids! :)

PM sent.

nah.....I doubt it! lol we are all big kids! :)

You all just wait until Terror of the Zygons DVD gets released, wink wink- a very interesting 'coming soon' is on there

That's all I'm saying (now that's really p/ssed you all off hasn't it?)

You all just wait until Terror of the Zygons DVD gets released, wink wink- a very interesting 'coming soon' is on there

That's all I'm saying (now that's really p/ssed you all off hasn't it?)

Um... sort of, yeah.

Honestly, I think the Moonbase DVD is the one that will make or break these rumors for me. That was announced months ago via a random Amazon posting, later to be confirmed only with a couple of concept art images in DWM. Since then, we haven't heard much about it, despite an October release. Now, perhaps they are just holding off on showing stuff, but with only a few months left, it is odd and against the norm for us to not have any footage of the animation at this point. If they can actually manage to release a complete story like this I'd be shocked, but I think this might be a clever way to surprise it. Of course, when some actual footage shows up I'll back down, but until then, I have faith in the idea of recovered episodes (though 90 still seems way to fortunate).

Gents... PM please!

You all just wait until Terror of the Zygons DVD gets released, wink wink- a very interesting 'coming soon' is on there

That's all I'm saying (now that's really p/ssed you all off hasn't it?)

As is my understanding, you are referring to the trailer for Moonbase. However, the trailer apparently only includes footage from the two extant episodes so will in no way confirm or deny any rumours.

You all just wait until Terror of the Zygons DVD gets released, wink wink- a very interesting 'coming soon' is on there

That's all I'm saying (now that's really p/ssed you all off hasn't it?)

I have heard its old Salamander himself..... but we will see!

Sorry guys, wrong conspiracy theory again..... Terror of the Shapeshifters, has tributes to various artists [such as MT] who have passed, it was sealed nearly 18 months ago,

"They just make us wait,..... -.. because, they can- [said, a'la Jeremy Clarkson],

The Moonport, is 50% anime, also done 18-24 moons ago...

BBC has a list of releases 'as of now', up until July 2014

The Blue releases will be the ones with 'missing episodes', until they release vanilla, full stories, series, boxsets etc.......

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Gents... PM please!


"PM will tell, it always does"

cited from 7....... :)

The Moonport, is 50% anime

Gravity Super Force make Doctor GO TIME!

TARDISbirds are Go....???
Cyberman, Defender of the Universe....???
Doctor 6, I choose You....???

Yep, I 'm off to the Zero Room.....

TARDISbirds are Go....???
Cyberman, Defender of the Universe....???
Doctor 6, I choose You....???

Yep, I 'm off to the Zero Room.....

Wow, you must get REALLY excited by the idea of Medic Anime... ;D

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I have heard its old Salamander himself..... but we will see!

That's the rumour that's been put out there, yes...

Do I like Anime????, not really, but I thought that hiding in the Zero Room, would defend me from the stones coming my way :)

At this time, there are no leaks of any cover-art, for BBC releases after July 2014, when we see those, we will know what will come out next.

We've just finished watching "Ollympus Has Fallun" - What a brilliantly silly film. It's essentially "Die Hard:White House Edition" Definitely recommended if you like your OTT Action Thrillers.

We've just finished watching "Ollympus Has Fallun" - What a brilliantly silly film. It's essentially "Die Hard:White House Edition" Definitely recommended if you like your OTT Action Thrillers.

... and if you liked that, Whittehouse Ddown is another clone. Both movies are great fun and have their strengths and weaknesses. Heck, I'm sure they even used the same sets... Summer 13 - 1 movie for the price of 2!

This thread is sure entertaining. Lol.

That's the rumour that's been put out there, yes...

This rumour is based purely on a typo on the BBFC website where the words "easter egg" got foreshortened to "gg", the production code of the story in question. It was just (it seems) a simple error.

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erm would it be possible for someone to provide a link for the regular july medic release?

This rumour is based purely on a typo on the BBFC website where the words "easter egg" got foreshortened to "gg", the production code of the story in question. It was just (it seems) a simple error.

That's actually quite funny - and a bit sad (as in desperate, not boo-hoo)...

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Do I like Anime????, not really, but I thought that hiding in the Zero Room, would defend me from the stones coming my way :)

Trust me, go back through earlier 'zero room' mentions on this thread, and you'll know it's not really somewhere you'd want to hide (unless you're into that sort of thing, of course...)!! :D

Well, I will have my blown up photo of 'Nicola' with me, so I may be a-while :)....

Well, I will have my blown up photo of 'Nicola' with me, so I may be a-while :)....

Don't let Nev Fountain hear you say that (the lucky bastard)... :P

... and if you liked that, Whittehouse Ddown is another clone. Both movies are great fun and have their strengths and weaknesses. Heck, I'm sure they even used the same sets... Summer 13 - 1 movie for the price of 2!

And that's an Emerich film. Which means LOTS of things will go BOOM in a spectacular manner. :)

This rumour is based purely on a typo on the BBFC website where the words "easter egg" got foreshortened to "gg", the production code of the story in question. It was just (it seems) a simple error.

Although having said that I've just checked and the salamander production code is PP so your guess is as good as mine. I read that the trailer on Zygons is Moonbase with no new footage (reported by someone who has seen the preview copy) so unless you want to speculate about conspiracies (which frankly goes nowhere quite rapidly) it is best to assume that the zygons release will neither confirm nor deny the rumours.

I shall write it down now, so people can look back and and think what a "sma&t a$$"

In September we have releases of linked stories - both DVD and Blue Ray.. classic doctor and new doctor of
The Auton, The Daleks, The Cybermen, The Silurians, The Ice Warriors, The Great Intelligence and The Sontarans....

So next year expect to see doctor 12 [11] stories with: The Zygons, The Robots of Death, The Draconians, The Mechoniods....
[if the rumors are true, there will be Macra Terror and Yetis - not because the fans demand them but so they can sell the next block]

try the audiobook bay you should get them there

Just watching the BluRay Special Edition of the Spearhead from Space - Classic Who in fantastic quality. Really looking forward to the extras on the disc. If only Moffatt et al would take note and tone down the frantic running around in the current series...

I have heard its old Salamander himself..... but we will see!

tee hee, that's wot I've been hearing - didn't want to be the first 1 to say it

This rumour is based purely on a typo on the BBFC website where the words "easter egg" got foreshortened to "gg", the production code of the story in question. It was just (it seems) a simple error.

for me it's these rumours that have made Anniversary year a bit more exciting. Whether they turn out to have any substance or are all just wishful thinking.

Ignoring the books & BF audios I think the BBC (so far) have really disappointed me with how they have treated their no 1 show, their biggest money spinner & the World's longest running sci fi series.

All we really have (that we know of) is 1 docu drama & 1 3D Anniversary special. We haven't had a proper series this year- what we had at the start of the year was the second half of last years series. The Christmas Special happens every year.

I would love a celebration of the series history - The 11 Faces of Doctor Who- the BBC showing 1 story from each Doctor on TV in the run up to November. I would love them to show Unearthly Child episode one at 5:15 on Saturday 23rd November as a fitting tribute. I would love a new Documentary featuring new interviews with the original cast & crew (and not just churning out the same old clips & interviews that we see as extras on the DVD's that we've all seen 100's of times before)

I'm not impressed by the 'Monsters' DVD's they're gonna release- its stuff we already have - rehashed for cash- I'm not impressed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still excited and looking forward to the Anniversary & Christmas (Regeneration) Specials & the Docu Drama, I just feel that the BBC could be giving us more Televisual treats throughout the year

Wall there is a series devoted to being a documentary about each doctor. One per month. As part of that series they show a complete story for each doctor. So they are already doing at least one of the things you're asking for. Agreed on the missing season though. We were short changed. Good to have you back Wall.

Moff simply isn't capable of managing two series at once. I also don't think he understands what makes Who great. Blink worked as a one-off oddball story, but he seems to think that a whole era can be oddball. In my eyes, 11's run was a complete failure. I know others disagree, and I'm happy if people have enjoyed it. What's nice about this place is that I can give my opinion without an out of work Australian author taking three posts and 10 paragraphs to explain that my opinion is wrong.

Cheers,

DemonSeedMonkey

I need some help.
I have a file on my computer called "transformer huzbult.rar". It is has mp3 files from SJA. It is PW protected and I don't know where I downloaded it from, though I did find a post with the same tracks in the SJA fourm here http://tinyurl.com/l8bnvb7 , but that PW doesn't work. Does anyone know what PW it might be? If I can open it, I will repost it here.

Thanks.

A ridiculous suggestion. Is the password "huzbult"?

I tried that.

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Just watching the BluRay Special Edition of the Spearhead from Space - Classic Who in fantastic quality. Really looking forward to the extras on the disc. If only Moffatt et al would take note and tone down the frantic running around in the current series...

I watched the extras first lol. Its a good package

I would love a celebration of the series history - The 11 Faces of Doctor Who- the BBC showing 1 story from each Doctor on TV in the run up to November. I...

And what *REALLY* *PISSES* *ME* *OFF* is that the BBC / BBC-Worldwide can do this for BBC America with the 'revisited' series with a reasonably good documentary followed by an entire story ... but then dont't show it on the the F*CKING BBC!!! Not even on bloody iPlayer.

SERIOUSLY???


What the hell are channels like BBC Three and Four about?

In the year that "Doctor Who will take over television" they couldn't keep a two - threes hours A MONTH of BBC One Saturday Evening to show the same thing?

I almost hate to say this as it still sounds rather trite but if Broadcasters and Distributors want to *REALLY* examine why TV Piracy is so bloody prevalently then this is a case-study wrapped in a velvet box.

I haven't been able to see them over here in Canada either. I had to find the revisited series online to download.

And what *REALLY* *PISSES* *ME* *OFF* is that the BBC / BBC-Worldwide can do this for BBC America with the 'revisited' series with a reasonably good documentary followed by an entire story ... but then dont't show it on the the F*CKING BBC!!! Not even on bloody iPlayer.

SERIOUSLY???


What the hell are channels like BBC Three and Four about?

In the year that "Doctor Who will take over television" they couldn't keep a two - threes hours A MONTH of BBC One Saturday Evening to show the same thing?

I almost hate to say this as it still sounds rather trite but if Broadcasters and Distributors want to *REALLY* examine why TV Piracy is so bloody prevalently then this is a case-study wrapped in a velvet box.

If there was a button to like this a million times I'd so press it. I'm very annoyed to. It's just so unfair. Having been a doctor who fan for 25 years I thought the bbc would treat us UK viewers better, after all we pay there bloody wages not the US viewers!!! So disappointed . Big finish are really way ahead of the bbc regarding a decent anniversary year.

Yes. i'm really looking forward to November's CC where we'll get to experience where it all began, with the medic and granddaughter leaving their home planet.

Moff simply isn't capable of managing two series at once. I also don't think he understands what makes Who great.

(SNIP)


I see where you're coming from, and to an extent I agree with you. I think he'd have been better off running an 'old school' run of just plain stories that just happened to run from one to another. He's over-thought the whole Time Travel aspect.

Taken over 50 years the series runs best *DESPITE* Time Travel and not *BECAUSE* Time Travel.

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Yes. i'm really looking forward to November's CC where we'll get to experience where it all began, with the medic and granddaughter leaving their home planet.

I really hope that it *IS* the story and that (and I know some will hate this idea) we have JLCs line about 'take this one, you'll have more fun') ... but there's a horribly cynical part of me that suspects we'll get a good story - and I want to really emphasis that - A GOOD STORY - but a good story that *JUST* falls short of *REALLY* filling in that gap.

But I really don't actually mean that in a bad way.

The full "Origin Story" should be like "The Time War" something that's referenced, but never properly told because there should always still be some mystery.

And what *REALLY* *PISSES* *ME* *OFF* is that the BBC / BBC-Worldwide can do this for BBC America with the 'revisited' series with a reasonably good documentary followed by an entire story ... but then dont't show it on the the F*CKING BBC!!! Not even on bloody iPlayer.

SERIOUSLY???



In the BBC's annual report they say something about the fewer hours that the show is on contributes to overall lower sales for the corporation:

Doctor Who News: BBC Worldwide Annual Report 2012/13 (http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/07/bbc-worldwide-annual-report-201213.html)

...and I agree with you about BBC America and BBC UK. Sometimes the left hand doesn't appear to know what the right hand is doing. But I'd say that report sends a clear signal that someone high up will be wanting more episodes next year. Five in one year, followed by eight and two specials isn't (apparently) enough. Where I don't ever want to sacrifice quality over quantity, it'd be nice to get back up to 13 or 14 a year. We really should've got that in this anniversary year.
What the hell are channels like BBC Three and Four about?

In the year that "Doctor Who will take over television" they couldn't keep a two - threes hours A MONTH of BBC One Saturday Evening to show the same thing?

I almost hate to say this as it still sounds rather trite but if Broadcasters and Distributors want to *REALLY* examine why TV Piracy is so bloody prevalently then this is a case-study wrapped in a velvet box.

In Australia, 'the 11 Doctors in 11 months' are being played on UKTV [Foxtel cable/satellite TV], which would mean, that it should be played on UK Gold in the UK, the cynic in me believes that it has less to do with making the show popular [when it is already popular] but to get people to buy 'The Monster' sets, for youngsters who haven't seen the old episodes, bought the old episodes.....

Last week, as a treat to myself, I bought 'Face of Evil', single disc version, $10.00 [6.00GBP] cheaper than the usual release price.... looking at the ABC [BBC Australia] website, they have layer pricing, 1 at $19.99, 1 at $29.99 and the
Monster Sets at $39.99.. boxsets start at $75.00...

A slight rant about LC and it's policy... in Australia, BFAudioGo are available in store @ $29.00/$34.00 but the rest of the range are imports at specialist stores [3 of them in the whole country] @ $65.00 - $100.00, therefore Australian fans are the download buyers, and peppered all over site such as here to obtain DL and copies....

A slight rant about BBC and it's policy.... Not all DVD releases in the UK are released, at the same time, in Australia, an example of this was "The Krotons", the stores only received copies which had been pre-ordered, most still have not received copies 6 months later, but, the latest bollocks video, of an old story remastered - shelves full!

And why can't we get a decent length special? Back in the ol' classic days, 90min stories were the norm, with the occasional 2hr story for extra oomph (or even longer in the olden classic days with those 8 or more episode long stories).
Nowadays the longest special has been a little over 70min, and a near 2hr with the 2-part end of the 10th.
And how long is the 50th anni gonna be?
The 10th and 20th anni specials were both 90min.
I feel that there's a lot more they could do, but they're not giving themselves a fair amount of time to do it.
Most of the 7th series episodes this past year felt as if they were rushed, as if they should've been longer to give more depth to the stories.
I don't want to have that feeling at the end of the 50th. I want to be satisfied with what I watch.

In Australia, 'the 11 Doctors in 11 months' are being played on UKTV [Foxtel cable/satellite TV], which would mean, that it should be played on UK Gold in the UK, the cynic in me believes that it has less to do with making the show popular [when it is already popular] but to get people to buy 'The Monster' sets, for youngsters who haven't seen the old episodes, bought the old episodes.....

HA!

I don't think it's even anything near quite as clinical as that.

I suspect that there's an air of smugness in DW Cardiff Towers that thinks that UK Fans don't NEED these stories re-transmitted because ... engage clich� Upper Class Hooray Henry Accent ... Everyone's Seen Everything By The BBC Don't''Cha'Know!

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And why can't we get a decent length special? Back in the ol' classic days, 90min stories were the norm,...

I think that part of it is that that 'story telling' has changed under the SM tenure.

RTD had fairly loose 'arcs' that held each week together. You could view each run as 13 stories that just happened to join together.

But under SM's tenure it's shifted a bit.

To get the most out of Matt's Doctor I think you really have to view each season as a whole, other wise it's like trying to judge The Dalek Masterplan or The War Games on just each episode in isolation.

And why can't we get a decent length special? Back in the ol' classic days, 90min stories were the norm, with the occasional 2hr story for extra oomph (or even longer in the olden classic days with those 8 or more episode long stories).
Nowadays the longest special has been a little over 70min, and a near 2hr with the 2-part end of the 10th.
And how long is the 50th anni gonna be?
The 10th and 20th anni specials were both 90min.
I feel that there's a lot more they could do, but they're not giving themselves a fair amount of time to do it.
Most of the 7th series episodes this past year felt as if they were rushed, as if they should've been longer to give more depth to the stories.
I don't want to have that feeling at the end of the 50th. I want to be satisfied with what I watch.


The same problem occurred with STNG [wash my mouth out, spit, spit!], 2 part'ers, the unbeatable Borg, then in the first 10 seconds of part 2, Geordie resets his visor, and they can defeat everything....
In the last 2/3 years, we have had 'Problem', flick out Sonic Screwdriver, touch a few dials, problem solved..... it is not the intention of a 'British' show to have the problem solved so easily, the 'British way, is to draw out the action, the clues, the solutions, to the cliffender, just before the credits, only with extreme courage, potential death or really clever thinking can the hero win... the wrist flick solution has destroyed the suspense, shortened the show... the argument that Generation Z wont watch because they have the attention span of a goldfish... sod them, write a show for them, "Aliens vs Wizards" comes to mind, and leave a 50 year old show to the fans who want 75/90/120 or even 180minutes of entertainment....

If you want suspense, try "The Moonbase", the hand of the Phantom Piper coming through the wall at Polly, yes NOW we know it was a Cyberman, but in 1968, the last time they had been seen, they had cloth faces and human hands, not metal 3 fingered ones..... what is the modern equivalent, 'can the Doctor come of the locked box?' , boring to the extreme, let's argue all over the net, for the answer... why?, the answer was 'YES', or else there was no episode, the week after..... think about it.

A few years ago I did a massive marathon of all the classic episodes, from An Unearthly Child down to Survival, even watching recons of all the missing episodes.
The Moonbase was very good. Another high point was an excellent recon of Marco Polo, in color, with an intro and epilogue filmed with the actor who played Marco Polo in additional scenes of an older Marco looking back at his adventure.

Just in case anyone fancies it, itunes in the uk has "crazy home of the pepper pots" in HD as a free download at the moment.

A few years ago I did a massive marathon of all the classic episodes, from An Unearthly Child down to Survival, even watching recons of all the missing episodes.
The Moonbase was very good. Another high point was an excellent recon of Marco Polo, in color, with an intro and epilogue filmed with the actor who played Marco Polo in additional scenes of an older Marco looking back at his adventure.

I know the recons which you mean, I am the Dubsite for them, in this end of the globe, [I hadn't read any comments for a 100 or so pages, due to work, and at first didn't recognise BF stated as LC, LC being the designation of Loose Cannon for the past 10+ years]

Their recons have kept many people happy, while we wait for more and more footage to be found.
Dean and the boys, try hard to keep the story alive, in the spirit of the original.

There is a movement to link old and new, re-imagine old stories to give more credence to the NuWho of the modern show, but it falls down for me in having the Macra as huge crabs without intelligence as a sideline to the story of 'Gridlock' and not the protagonists of the story itself, the main character in the end, being the face of Bo....and his sacrifice to save humanity.
All heart wrenching, but is it, turn up, fix problem, leave to the next place [running up and down corridors included].
The audios owe most of their popularity, to length [as discussed earlier], and linkage to original style.
So the show, the novels,and the audios, are what we are loving as fans, not the short cuts to finish the story.... how many of the episodes of the last 3/4 years would be better as old episodes?, does 'Dalek' have the same impact upon us as 'Genesis of the Daleks'? Does 'Dalek' work as well in audio, as 'Genesis' does?

I would love a new Documentary featuring new interviews with the original cast & crew (and not just churning out the same old clips & interviews that we see as extras on the DVD's that we've all seen 100's of times before)

They did announce a new full-length Documentary was being prepared a few months back, so I'd assume that will fit the bill...

Yeah Hew, LC (as short hand for "large conclusions" and NOT "loose cannon") almost confused me the very first few times too. As per usual, since reconstructions have been mentioned, i will recommend "Recon_Mission" as simply the best reconstructions to date, hands down. Better than the animated - IMHO.

I know others disagree, and I'm happy if people have enjoyed it. What's nice about this place is that I can give my opinion without an out of work Australian author taking three posts and 10 paragraphs to explain that my opinion is wrong.

Well, I disagree, and I'm Australian, but I'm not an author (tho' I wish I was), or out of work, and that's all I have to say about it, and don't think you're wrong - just have a different opinion to me!! ;) I'm very curious who you mean, though - as I've encountered a few people in my time who'd fit that description...

All I will say is that let's not forget Moff's not the only person with a say on the show - there are other execs involved, some at higher levels (including BBC management themselves, as has been noted above), and Gatiss is his co-ex on Sheer-luck...

I'm very curious who you mean, though - as I've encountered a few people in my time who'd fit that description...

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I really hope that it *IS* the story and that (and I know some will hate this idea) we have JLCs line about 'take this one, you'll have more fun') ...

There was a bit in Priss-o-nerrs o' Fayte that already seems to contradict that, where the Doc says he took the first one he could get to, but that was probably recorded and done before 'Name' was broadcast, so who knows. I agree it would be great, and would go some way to breaking down the walls beteen new & old Medic on audio...

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Yeah Hew, LC (as short hand for "large conclusions" and NOT "loose cannon") almost confused me the very first few times too. As per usual, since reconstructions have been mentioned, i will recommend "Recon_Mission" as simply the best reconstructions to date, hands down. Better than the animated - IMHO.

100% agree - they are top notch!

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"Aliens vs Wizards".

Christ, that show is shite...

Christ, that show is shite...

Yep, picked it like a nose... last week's episode..... His mother was cloned as a food source, fixed with a spell, no more food, clone expires, then Mommy came back 'from beyond the veil' to save the universe....... can we all say HP!!, scifi/fantasy/ et all......and this was to replace Sarah Jane Adventures???

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Yeah Hew, LC (as short hand for "large conclusions" and NOT "loose cannon") almost confused me the very first few times too. As per usual, since reconstructions have been mentioned, i will recommend "Recon_Mission" as simply the best reconstructions to date, hands down. Better than the animated - IMHO.

I just had a look at Richards recons, very good, on par with some of the better ones in my collection, but they are still stop/go movement, with some live footage thrown in, it wouldn't surpise me, if he had worked with Dean - some of the ex-LC animators/reconstructionist are now at the BBC in the art department - I can not think of why the BBC are using low grade anime [see drawings for The Ice Warriors, PT looks well executed and the Warrior looks like his 'drawer' should have been executed.....] when there are talented people who, with a little amount of re-shot footage, could turn out a decent recon'ed episode

I love the work that Loose Cannon & Recon Mission have done down the years & they are by far my favourites out of all the fan made recons out there. Although I would love to personally thank everyone out there that has spent their time & energy putting them together & sharing them so freely with us fans. Their enthusiasm & dedication to Doctor Who astounds me.
The money grabbing, fund hungry BBC could learn a lesson there - I'm pretty sure all of us would buy an officially produced BBC recon of all the missing stories- digitally remastered pictures & audio with a host of extras

Hi.

I just started to create edited epub versions of the EDA novels the same way I did for the NA and MA books.
But I was not able to find the back covers for most of them.
It would be nice if somebody could provide those of EDA 01, 03, 08, 09, 11-20, 23, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30-38, 40-59, 61, 62 and 64-67.

Also the pdf versions of EDA 01, 03, 08, 09, 11-20, 49 and 50 have a very bad quality (faulty whitespaces and quote characters) and are missing much formatting information. I will try to make the best of it, but if somebody has a better source for any of them, it would be very helpful.

Greetings,
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For those of you who missed the older books, RWQ.
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3 Dec*a*log, 3 TC, 3 TM, 3 Short Trips, Kennedy (http://www.4shared.com/rar/yQZrMHuJ/dwdectctmstken.html)
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omg Voga! (http://science.time.com/2013/07/18/gold-in-space-a-collision-between-stars-produces-moon-sized-riches/)

omg Voga! (http://science.time.com/2013/07/18/gold-in-space-a-collision-between-stars-produces-moon-sized-riches/)

It's fantastic when life imitates DW!

Dont remind me....(shudders), sorry to anyone who lives there, but take my advice....MOVE! lol :)

I moved from there about thirty years ago.

Wow! Now that's a make-over ... and honestly can't decide if I like it or not ...




Karen Gillan shaves her head!

Karen stunned fans at the Comic-Con convention in San Diego, California on Saturday when she debuted her bald new look, revealing the hairdo she'd sported just hours previously had in fact been a wig - sneaky!


Yahoo! (http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/karen-gillan-shaves-her-head-102623733.html)

I love the work that Loose Cannon & Recon Mission have done down the years & they are by far my favourites out of all the fan made recons out there. Although I would love to personally thank everyone out there that has spent their time & energy putting them together & sharing them so freely with us fans. Their enthusiasm & dedication to Doctor Who astounds me.
The money grabbing, fund hungry BBC could learn a lesson there - I'm pretty sure all of us would buy an officially produced BBC recon of all the missing stories- digitally remastered pictures & audio with a host of extras

Wall I've seen some of the Loose Cannon recons but not the Recon Mission ones. Is there a website for them???

Wow! Now that's a make-over ... and honestly can't decide if I like it or not ...

Indeed, the 'Mindwarp meets Sinead O'Connor' look. Nice legs, though... ;)

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Wall I've seen some of the Loose Cannon recons but not the Recon Mission ones. Is there a website for them???

R_M (recon_mission): his videos on Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/recon_mission#video=xpd8mh)

Enjoy!

I moved from there about thirty years ago.

Good man Skutter! lol you know what I mean then lol

Hi, does anyone have please

3rd medic h*arv*st of t*me text or audio
pepperpots children
cybermen feeling ill
cover of sadness?

All this year? Thanks

3 sets of twins.....Bamebra and Morgan la Fae......

I'm gonna in the zero room for a while

(yes I'll clean up)

I agree about Android Inv.
cracking little story when viewed in isolation, but sandwiched between Pyramids and Morbius it does suffer by comparison.

I don't want to start a "Who hierarchy" as such things are complete codswallop, so if this offends then tell me to go shove it
but i find such things interesting so I'll ask anyway

How much of the medic have you guys seen/heard/read?
my tally is TV: all the stories that still exist (recent rumours and the Gal 4 ep excepted [so happy to have seen the leaked "submarine danger" ep, PT in that hat!!!])
Audio: catching up! upto about september 2011 releases
Books and comics: almost none. (must find the time!!)
Any recommendations of what I'm missing out on/ should avoid for a while?

How much of the medic have you guys seen/heard/read?
Seen, all of it that isn't lost. Heard, all of LC to date including most of the spin-offs. Reconstructions - prefer listening to them than watching.
Books and comics: The original ones, plus selected 'new' ones. Half a dozen VA ones. No comics

Recommendation? Lago and Jitefoot.

Indeed, the 'Mindwarp meets Sinead O'Connor' look. Nice legs, though... ;)

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R_M (recon_mission): his videos on Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/recon_mission#video=xpd8mh)

Enjoy!


Cheers looshkin!!!!!!

Hi, does anyone have please

3rd medic h*arv*st of t*me text or audio
pepperpots children
cybermen feeling ill
cover of sadness?

All this year? Thanks

Post 14792 for two of those. The other two have also been posted, pots by me and silver men by someone else. Links should still be active, so just look through the posts.

So I got around to listening to Hamma 4 and, wow, I have been missing something really interesting! Can anyone shoot me 1-3 or direct me to post#'s?

I'll ask again as I think my original request is now buried under loads of other posts!
Does anyone have the recent Target readings of THE RES-CUE and TOOMB OF THE CIDER-MEN ??!
Thanks in advance!

Can anyone point me in the right direction for Bloke*s 7 Looosifar PLEASE
Many Thankyous
PS LC needs to bring back The S*ea D*evils with Tim Beaker....Now that WOULD be something!

Hi, bit of an OT request but if anyone on the net can help it's probably the fine folks of this forum.. I'm trying to track down the second volume of The Adventures Of Sherlock Holmes read by the sixties movie medic (let's call him 'not Christopher Lee') from the production company behind 'The Frightenifyers' .. does anyone happen to be able to help at all? It would be much appreciated if so, cheers :)

I've just started re-listening to selected LC audios starting from the very first story - "The Nee-naw-nee-naw-thingys of Time". I expected there to be quite a difference in approach and finished product to what we have now, but was surprised to see how little has really changed. For one thing Briggsy's all over the story - writing, directing, sound design, music, at least 6 different characters - so no difference there then!! ;)

Seriously though, the diiferences are mostly miniscule or cosmetic things like the use of the older theme for each story, occasional less expert use of the audio medium (ie: slightly clunky expositional dialogue in some places), and Colin & Pete in particular sounding SO MUCH younger... Basically, though, the LC audios were exceptionally professionally presented from the start, and stand the test of time extremely well. It's no wonder they've lasted so long. A very pleasant surprise...

I've just started re-listening to selected LC audios starting from the very first story - "The Nee-naw-nee-naw-thingys of Time". I expected there to be quite a difference in approach and finished product to what we have now, but was surprised to see how little has really changed. For one thing Briggsy's all over the story - writing, directing, sound design, music, at least 6 different characters - so no difference there then!! ;)

Seriously though, the diiferences are mostly miniscule or cosmetic things like the use of the older theme for each story, occasional less expert use of the audio medium (ie: slightly clunky expositional dialogue in some places), and Colin & Pete in particular sounding SO MUCH younger... Basically, though, the LC audios were exceptionally professionally presented from the start, and stand the test of time extremely well. It's no wonder they've lasted so long. A very pleasant surprise...

Yes, I agree.

As someone who's only just listening to those older stories now they do stand the test of time and the points you raised are what I find too.

Love the description "The Nee-naw-nee-naw-thingys"!!!

Find Peter Davison can sound older in real life, but i find it hard to distinguish with some of the audios like woman of mercy-ia. Also remember the older 4th Doc theme was due to permission and didn't change until Genesis of Cybermen 5th Doc story.

Post 14792 for two of those. The other two have also been posted, pots by me and silver men by someone else. Links should still be active, so just look through the posts.

Thanks- got 14792 but been back through june and july and not found pots or cybers, will persevere....

As someone who's only just listening to those older stories now they do stand the test of time ...


I've just started on an Eight+MsPollard listen and whilst I definitely agree that the stories, the acting, the production values really have stood the test of time, there's one thing I'm glad they've improved on ... Pacing! Was listening to "Seasons Of Fear" and at one point I was thinking "Bloody hell ... I've been listening to this all day ... is it not over yet ..."

I've just started on an Eight+MsPollard listen and whilst I definitely agree that the stories, the acting, the production values really have stood the test of time, there's one thing I'm glad they've improved on ... Pacing! Was listening to "Seasons Of Fear" and at one point I was thinking "Bloody hell ... I've been listening to this all day ... is it not over yet ..."
Seasons of Fear is fantastic! It's one of my favourites :)

Seasons of Fear is fantastic! It's one of my favourites :)
It's one of mine, too. Especially loved the subtle bits of foreshadowing to the next few Eight stories. I also loved that the Big Bad of the piece -unsurprisingly- inspired some of the Greek myths. As a big geek for mythology in general, it was great to hear that. Now, I gotta wonder if there's a DW explanation for why the Greeks and Romans essentially worshiped the same pantheon of gods, but each gave them different names... XD

For all it's pacing (in hindsight) issues, Seasons is the one that really hooked me in BF when I realised that there was more than just 'monster of the month' stories going on.

Last year I met three doctors at Collectormnia, Coln Bakr and Pal McGnn couldn't have been more welcoming and friendly, both of them extremely happy to meet you and pose for photo's, but Petr Davson was most unfriendly, he seemed as though it was a chore for him to be there and meet his fans, when I asked for a photo I got tutted and very little effort from him.
I still like his stories but was not impressed with his attitude to fans. This might have been an off day or something for him but it definitely put him down in my opinion as that was my first and only time of meeting him to date.
I have met CB and SM a few times and they were always friendly and welcoming.

Last year I met three doctors at Collectormnia, Coln Bakr and Pal McGnn couldn't have been more welcoming and friendly, both of them extremely happy to meet you and pose for photo's, but Petr Davson was most unfriendly, he seemed as though it was a chore for him to be there and meet his fans, when I asked for a photo I got tutted and very little effort from him.
I still like his stories but was not impressed with his attitude to fans. This might have been an off day or something for him but it definitely put him down in my opinion as that was my fist and only time of meeting him to date.
I have met CB and SM a few times and they were always friendly and welcoming.
I recently met Colin Baker this past May at a local comic con here in Michigan. In fact, he was the sole reason I decided to go. He was such a gentleman, and very self-deprecatingly witty. I say the latter because I happened to meet Lou Ferrigno before I found Colin Baker's booth, and got a Polaroid pic taken with him. When I got to Colin's booth, I set my stuff down to shake hands with him. He spotted the Polaroid and looked at it. Then he said "Oh, you met Lou, did you? He's in better shape than I am!" We had a big laugh about that. I almost wanted to chime in with "What are you talking about, Mr. Baker? You're in shape. If you can call round a shape, that is." but I decided that would be bad form since I was just meeting the guy. I did tell him that stories with his Medic and Paul McGann's are the ones I most look forward to from LC, and he was quite touched by that. It was a wonderful experience, I'm hoping to God that my local comic con gets more of the Medics here. It'd be awesome if I got to meet them all.

I have met Colin on 4 occasions and every time he is brilliant. Friendly witty and engaging, the perfect gentleman and a great ambassador for the medic.

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They had the most elusive one of all last year The great Tom B. But I never got to meet him. I was 127th in line and after 6 hours they were still only letting up to number 80 and I ran out of time before I had to collect my kids from the child minder. I'm so gutted but still live in hope of meeting him one day.

Have you seen the cover of the November main release?




http://tinyurl.com/kly7mzn



Can't decide if it's brilliant or terrible.

But mainly ... if you're going to ape a classic record cover - how about using one from the right year, and not one that was released six years later?

Good man Skutter! lol you know what I mean then lol

Oh yes! I went to visit some relatives there last year was kept awake by a fight in the street 'till about 1ish and then ended up talking to the police until 4 in the morning after my cousins car was broken into, I'd been there less than 8 hours.

Have you seen the cover of the November main release?




http://tinyurl.com/kly7mzn



Can't decide if it's brilliant or terrible.

But mainly ... if you're going to ape a classic record cover - how about using one from the right year, and not one that was released six years later?

My Vote - terrible!, it is a very lazy, a frequently used image, frequently copied.

I saw a recent fan made T Shirt with the 'Foreman's Sign' Logo on it, to celebrate the 50 years, so much better.

The more I look at it, the worse it gets.

You know ... it now may be in the running for the worse cover since 'Red Dawn'.

Post removed by request.

I'm very curious who you mean, though - as I've encountered a few people in my time who'd fit that description...

I'm very curious who you mean, though - as I've encountered a few people in my time who'd fit that description...

Oh I couldn't possibly say...

Cheers,
Regards,
All the best,
Sincerely,

DemonSeedMonkey (Yes, THE DemonSeedMonkey. Can you believe it?)

Cheers,
DemonSeedMonkey

Oh I couldn't possibly say...

Cheers,
Regards,
All the best,
Sincerely,

DemonSeedMonkey (Yes, THE DemonSeedMonkey. Can you believe it?)

Cheers,
DemonSeedMonkey

????

We love you DemonSeedMonkey!

It's actually my all-time favourite LC audio. I absolutely adore it. I was completely SHOCKED that in the 8th Medic review book "Tales of an Edwardian Adventurer" both reviewers absolutely despised it!

Firstly - what is this book of which you speak? Never heard of it.

Secondly - Despised? That's harsh. Really the only thing wrong with it - and it's very much "your mileage may vary" - is that it does go on a bit.

The more I look at it, the worse it gets.

You know ... it now may be in the running for the worse cover since 'Red Dawn'.

in the running?
it is quite clearly the winner of that title by a country mile! Not only is it out of time by a good few years, it's an over done image (the chili peppers did it much better - and with socks too!) and looks like amateur photoshop.

the story, however, sounds interesting - i REALLY like the idea of a universe without the beatles :)

and at that opening of can of worms i shall retire once more

Have you seen the cover of the November main release?




http://tinyurl.com/kly7mzn



Can't decide if it's brilliant or terrible.

But mainly ... if you're going to ape a classic record cover - how about using one from the right year, and not one that was released six years later?

What??? What?????
HOW VERY DARE THEY!!!!!

for those (very few) of you who have not yet followed the link in my signature to my fan fic I call upon you to do so now!

Also here is a link to a (extremely) basic pic I made at the same time (and have since raided for my avatar(s) here!)
CoverPic (http://www.mediafire.com/view/wad1911rq4wppha/AR.gif)

Should I sue?

(oh and Nobber....while that cover isn't from 63, it was a significant year for the band (the year of the -mania) and they were there in Abbey Road.)

He's going to save them from some zoo that nabbed them with a time scoop.

What's so bad about that?

(oh and Nobber....while that cover isn't from 63, it was a significant year for the band (the year of the -mania) and they were there in Abbey Road.)

But Malinson could have used 'Please Please Me" as an inspiration. Just as iconic and from the right year.

But Malinson could have used 'Please Please Me" as an inspiration. Just as iconic and from the right year.

While impressive I wouldn't say the cover was as iconic as the Abbey Road one,
Iconic one thinks of Abbey road or Sgt Pepper, not PPM

and believe me I know it was from the right year....recorded 11th feb from 10 am in 3 sessions; Twist and Shout last as suggested by "someone" and it did bad things to John's throat......

Sorry, I've done a bit of research on this...

How about using 'Beatlemania! With The Beatles (1963)', it was released in October 1963 so it would have been all over the high streets in both albums in the windows and posters on the walls..... plus it is in B/W with 4 faces on it and enough room for the logos......

I'm liking the idea of a universe without the beatles more and more as this discussion goes on.

I hold the unpopular opinion that they are the most overrated band ever and would gladly never speak of them again

... or Sgt Pepper.....

You know, I don't think I've seen a DW take on the Sgt Pepper cover.

I'm liking the idea of a universe without the beatles more and more as this discussion goes on.

I hold the unpopular opinion that they are the most overrated band ever and would gladly never speak of them again

I wasn't too impressed with them either, putting it all down to hype and nostalgia.....
then I listened to all their albums in order.....
as you see the dramatic change in their output, it does become apparent that they were actually VERY good


You know, I don't think I've seen a DW take on the Sgt Pepper cover.

not been looking hard enough

actually, I think I first saw this from a link from this thread....

... not been looking hard enough ....

Suffice to say ... I don't think I've actually LOOKED! :)

BBC - Blogs - Doctor Who - The Daleks to Return in the Anniversary Special! (http://bbc.in/1b5XgJk)

Is that Gallifreyan architecture in the background? If it is, could we be seeing snippets of the Time War?

Is that Gallifreyan architecture in the background? If it is, could we be seeing snippets of the Time War?


Now that you mention it ... yeah ... I can see that fits the style. Flash-back, perhaps?

Now that you mention it ... yeah ... I can see that fits the style. Flash-back, perhaps?


That's what I was thinking. You can't really have JH as the doc who fought during the war, without actually showing at least part of it.

????

We love you DemonSeedMonkey!

Thanks ;) Apologies if my mocking impression of Jon Blum wasn't clear.

Have you seen the cover of the November main release?




http://tinyurl.com/kly7mzn



Can't decide if it's brilliant or terrible.

But mainly ... if you're going to ape a classic record cover - how about using one from the right year, and not one that was released six years later?

Totally agree on the terrible front...although I am left wondering why the November release is out in September?

Have you seen the cover of the November main release?



http://tinyurl.com/kly7mzn


Can't decide if it's brilliant or terrible.
But mainly ... if you're going to ape a classic record cover - how about using one from the right year, and not one that was released six years later?

Totally agree on the terrible front...although I am left wondering why the November release is out in September?
It's terrible - truly terrible.
But it is the September release - the November release is two months (and two stories) later.

Totally agree on the terrible front...although I am left wondering why the November release is out in September?

That's probably because I'm an arse and thought "anniversary related released = November"

And I was probably sober at the time and therefore in a diminished state of responsibility and not paying attention.

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Hello. I haven't made any requests in awhile, and I figured I'd ask for some. I'm starting to delve into the Medic's Friends range after listening to this month's story with the Medic's nemesis. I got most of them from another site, but I need the following to complete the collection til next month's is released:
The Great Space Elevator, The Doll of Death, The Pyralis Effect, A Town Called Fortune, and Freakshow.
If anyone can provide any of them via PM or otherwise, I'd be very grateful. Also, I didn't feel like being oblique about the titles because I wasn't feeling especially creative. Sorry. At least I put them in spoilers.

I know this is the Doctor Who (And Related) Audio Drama Thread, but as it seems to have some other Big Finish Production titles here, would anyone have the second series of the "Highlander" title as listed here:

Highlander - Released Items - Ranges - Big Finish (http://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/released/highlander)

Thank you for any help.

Hello. I haven't made any requests in awhile, and I figured I'd ask for some. I'm starting to delve into the Medic's Friends range after listening to this month's story with the Medic's nemesis. I got most of them from another site, but I need the following to complete the collection til next month's is released:
The Great Space Elevator, The Doll of Death, The Pyralis Effect, A Town Called Fortune, and Freakshow.
If anyone can provide any of them via PM or otherwise, I'd be very grateful. Also, I didn't feel like being oblique about the titles because I wasn't feeling especially creative. Sorry. At least I put them in spoilers.

If nobody else does in the meantime, will up them when I get in from work tonight.

Not the trailer we all want to see, but the Adventures In Space And Time trailer has been leaked. Not the best copy, but the content looks decent.

An Adventure in Space and Time Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_wo_2XNE0)

Now, I'm definitely looking forward to this. It looks great!

Now, I'm definitely looking forward to this. It looks great!

Looks fantastic, am I alone in looking forwards to AAISAT more than the special?

Every time David Warner says "Ramona", it totally cracks me up. Reminds me of "Chetterton" and "Rickey" !! Ive enjoyed this season of 4th Doc, immensely. David Warner is no small part of that. I still wish he was the new Doctor on TV.

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Hello. I haven't made any requests in awhile, and I figured I'd ask for some. I'm starting to delve into the Medic's Friends range after listening to this month's story with the Medic's nemesis. I got most of them from another site, but I need the following to complete the collection til next month's is released:
The Great Space Elevator, The Doll of Death, The Pyralis Effect, A Town Called Fortune, and Freakshow.
If anyone can provide any of them via PM or otherwise, I'd be very grateful. Also, I didn't feel like being oblique about the titles because I wasn't feeling especially creative. Sorry. At least I put them in spoilers.

sent the last 3 to pm

The same way UBER- FAN Ian, tries to control everything to do with DW, remakes, original missing stories, lost episodes, his own fan creations, suing everyone and everything in a valiant attempt to overcome his own impotence....
Nick B, was, and is; Mythmakers, LC, AITS and BBV.. so of course, he has a hand in everything and changes ideas to suit himself...

B7 was a Terry Nation creation and is owned by Paul Darrow... he only wants people to enjoy, and is happy to help anyone start a re-boot, write fiction, borrow props... he may need the money, but he doesn't have the ego

David Warner was good value, ...

Generally agree with the rest of your points, bar this one. Due to the character he was playing, and his portrayal, it's one of the few times I wished David had dialled his performance back just a little bit.

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The same way UBER- FAN Ian, tries to control everything to do with DW, remakes, original missing stories, lost episodes, his own fan creations, suing everyone and everything in a valiant attempt to overcome his own impotence....

And my god his creations are garbage. Of course if you brought this to his attention, he'd foist the responsibility for it onto someone else. He's more of a Roald Dahl antagonist than anything.

"Proud of his work on Blake's 7, Darrow has acted as the show's most prolific spokesperson, both in the UK and during the late 80s, in the U.S., when the show was frequently broadcast on US public television. In the mid to late 1990s, he has also purchased the rights to Blake's 7 and attempted to produce a big-budget follow-up miniseries, Blake's 7: A Rebellion Reborn. According to Darrow, it would have begun 25 years after the ending of the original series and might have included an aged Avon passing the torch to a new generation."

His company is B7 Media, responsible for the New Adventure audios now on LC, and the Chronic.. releases

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And my god his creations are garbage. Of course if you brought this to his attention, he'd foist the responsibility for it onto someone else. He's more of a Roald Dahl antagonist than anything.

Usually he is referred to as : 'He who can not be named', 'Here comes the Law Suit', or @#$#@%$........

David Warner was good value, but I was very disappointed with this season as opposed to the first Leela one.



I think Tom's portrayal is getting worse!

"Proud of his work on Blake's 7, Darrow has acted as the show's most prolific spokesperson, both in the UK and during the late 80s, in the U.S., when the show was frequently broadcast on US public television. In the mid to late 1990s, he has also purchased the rights to Blake's 7 and attempted to produce a big-budget follow-up miniseries, Blake's 7: A Rebellion Reborn. According to Darrow, it would have begun 25 years after the ending of the original series and might have included an aged Avon passing the torch to a new generation."

His company is B7 Media, responsible for the New Adventure audios now on LC, and the Chronic.. releases

Wow! I didn't realise he was behind B7 Media; I knew he'd tried to get a mini-series off the ground a while back.

So far, the LC stories have managed to capture the characters almost spot on and hopefully they'll continue without you-know-who's interference. I have to say I'm really looking forward to the next series and finally finding out exactly what happened to Blake and Jenna

Let's not forget, without NB, we would have none of this. He was heavily involved in the beginning, then not much except dalek voices etc. It seems to be only in the past couple of years that he's been using himself too much again. I didn't care for the Laan storyline very much, and it was obvious from the interviews that David W was still warming to his character.. But I thought the recent 2 part story was most enjoyable, even if it was difficult to care about the under-developed and unmemorable side characters (besides Warner and his assistant, that is). With BF, we do get plenty of awesome writers though - Jonathon Morris being my personal fav in the current staff. (Since Mark Gatiss is busy with other things, like the TV show). And top notch production, with as many original who cast members as possible. There's a ton of great things to be said about BF productions. But i do agree there are WAY too many long running multiple story arcs, which is a complaint I hear a lot about the show currently. I personally, love a good self contained story, especially when it comes to scifi/speculative fiction. The format lends itself well to the genre. Because you can't be that speculative when you have to carry a plot thread over many episodes. That's why ST TOS and early X-files was so good. That's ONE of the reasons Xmas Carol was so enjoyable. Even on repeat viewings when it's not even xmas. Don't get me wrong, I love a good soap-opera/comic book etc - where i get to look forward to the next installment of "What will happen next?" But I don't think that's what Doctor Who is, nor should it be. Partly because it's not nearly as much fun that way. And Doctor Who should always be fun, even when it's touching our hearts. Looking back at the year of specials with Tennant, I was originally a little upset that we were cheated of a proper season. But I think the format was exactly what Doctor Who needed and much more like a traditional 90min Who story. If there were only more of them.... Anyways, I'm sure it's tough not to get so caught up with it all, that you get completely out of touch with the fans. When you're in that position you just do your best. I think Moff's a great writer, but I wish Gatiss was the one running things. He's much more of a Hardcore old school Whovian. If BF or BBC really does have spies here, I truly hope they read and share this.

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As I have said before, we do have a lot to be grateful to Nick Briggs for, but he has currently got an incestuous relationship with all the ranges now. I am sick of Daleks and am sick of NB continually hand picking the best stories for himself to write. He is a talented writer ...

Hear, Hear!

It's frustrating to hear him come back with the "well I'm such a fan of ... I had to do it myself" - I know it's probably not intentioned as such, but it does come across now and then as him saying that he's The Biggest Bestest Fan In The Whole Wide World and others aren't worthy.

It's why I quite like B.Edwards approach; very understated and never comes across as being egocentric. He and A.Barnes made a great team for the EDAs - despite You Know Who trying to claim credit more than is due ...

TBH the whole company is spread far too thin over too many ranges, and yesterday they announced they're moving into Movie production!




http://tinyurl.com/mqvcz9q



They really need at least another body in there full-time to keep track of all this before they rupture themselves.

But, you know, it's still constantly amazing that they CAN push so much stuff out at very high standards. Obviously there's always going to be a handful that slip through the Quality Control Net, but over-all it's all still pretty damn good.

(Apart from G-Less, obviously.)


And another "You Know" - I'd be quite happy to see NB take over the TV version for a season or two. No more circularly-wibbly-timey-wobbly-circular stuff, and just a good run of serialised "Adventures!".

Since we are talking about it, one thing I *really* noticed with the final disc of this series of 4DA was how exhausted Mary Tamm was sounding - it was actually sort of painful to listen to it. Ultimately, it didn't hurt the release as much as other things, and I wouldn't have wanted them to just dump her off the final story or anything - but it was poignant.

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TBH the whole company is spread far too thin over too many ranges, and yesterday they announced they're moving into Movie production!

To be fair, their movie is made. They are just trying to get it redone with a bigger budget. (Having watched it, it isn't bad as it could be though, Considering)

There was always something robust about her voice that comfortingly denoted chest size.

It's not important, but it amused me how she tickled a 6th sense I didn't even know I had.

That Adventure in Space & Time trailer has been blocked :\ Did anyone download it? Perhaps put it up for download, as the BBC seem to be very hot in blocking YouTube videos of it!

Easy as pi.

Download An Adventure in Space and Time Trailer(240p_H.264-AAC).mp4 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/eo0yae)

Anyone got the latest anniversary ebook?

If nobody else does in the meantime, will up them when I get in from work tonight.
I still need the first 2 of my request, so if you'd like to provide them, it would be awesome. Thanks.

I still need the first 2 of my request, so if you'd like to provide them, it would be awesome. Thanks.

No sweat. Will PM them when they're done.

I was really disappointed today, I drove through Tooting Bec for the first time today, but didn't see any Yetis on any loos.

I was really disappointed today, I drove through Tooting Bec for the first time today, but didn't see any Yetis on any loos.

Would a Yeti need to use the loo? ;)

I found a link that was still up:

Heck Ya Doctor Who, An Adventure in Space and Time Trailer SUPER... (http://heckyadoctorwho.tumblr.com/post/56087234777)

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Easy as pi.

Download An Adventure in Space and Time Trailer(240p_H.264-AAC).mp4 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/eo0yae)

Oh, thanks very much! Didn't see your reply before I posted a link. Looks amazing, despite the shakey cam!

Another one who was disappointed with the second 4th Medic series
I did really enjoy The Anti Mater - and also the first half of the underwater one - But the first two parter with Mr Warner and the Lan was just dismal - so I was very discouraged to see that the final two would be a continuation of that. I haven't had the heart to listen to them yet (I'm really not a fan of the Daleks either which makes matters worse).

The thing is that NB can write great stories - but he hasn't for a long while now and it really feels like he is being over-used and spread too thin.
I dread seeing his name on the cover.

Easy as pi.

Download An Adventure in Space and Time Trailer(240p_H.264-AAC).mp4 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/eo0yae)

Thanks!!! I will watch this oveer and over.....

Anyone got the latest anniversary ebook?

seconded, i'm really enjoying those...tho, i did expect colfer's to be better, i really love his work.

Looks fantastic, am I alone in looking forwards to AAISAT more than the special?

I think that I am too.

Just got back from a (generally shitty) trip to Melbourne to see Pacific Rim in IMAX - well worth it, if you get the opportunity - looks and sounds great. Nice to see Burn Gorman in a reasonably meaty role, too - even if he was playing a cartoon character (but then, so was everyone else).

Anyhoo - catch up time...

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I've just started on an Eight+MsPollard listen and whilst I definitely agree that the stories, the acting, the production values really have stood the test of time, there's one thing I'm glad they've improved on ... Pacing! Was listening to "Seasons Of Fear" and at one point I was thinking "Bloody hell ... I've been listening to this all day ... is it not over yet ..."

The pacing was actually really good in the very early ones - usually episode length was around or under the 25 minute mark - it was a little later on that they got out of control with running times. That's one of the good things Briggs did when he took over, to try and bring the episode lengths back down to 'normal' again...
Will be embarking on an 8/Charley re-do soon myself.

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Have you seen the cover of the November main release?




http://tinyurl.com/kly7mzn



Can't decide if it's brilliant or terrible.


No decision required - it's terrible. End of conversation... :)

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But Malinson could have used 'Please Please Me" as an inspiration. Just as iconic and from the right year.

If it's a world without Beatles, why reference them at all? They never existed, so the image isn't iconic in that universe!! Aaaargh - wibbly-wobbly...

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Thanks ;) Apologies if my mocking impression of Jon Blum wasn't clear.

Ohhhhhh, HIM. Actually, he's American, but he MARRIED an Aussie (Kate Orman, who's quite nice, or used to be, but they do both seem to have an inflated sense of worth as writers)... When he writes a successful book that's NOT about the Medic (ie: Cornell, Aaronovich, Shearman), then he can call himself an "author". Frankly, he's a "published fan writer". That's all. His opinion is no more "worthy" than any of ours, so sod him...

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As I have said before, we do have a lot to be grateful to Nick Briggs for, but he has currently got an incestuous relationship with all the ranges now. I am sick of Daleks and am sick of NB continually hand picking the best stories for himself to write. He is a talented writer (Creatures Of Beauty is THE BEST 5th Doctor story), but I feel he and quite a few of his colleagues are being stretched extremely thin of late. One of the reasons why I support the end of the Companion Chronicles. I would rather have fewer top quality Who stories as opposed to a millennia of poor quality ones which leave me thinking "DO I care about listening to these anymore?"

Absoultely agree - Johnny Morris is a case in point. Usually one of the most reliable of LCs writers, he's churned out a few clunkers of late, simply because he's writing WAY too much, and the quality meter is slipping. I think it's time they opened their doors again to new talent, or invited a few under-used writers back. Great to see Jonathan Barnes turn up recently, and Matt Fitton shows a lot of promise, but we need MORE variety.

What Briggs said recently about loving the 8th Medic stories too much to give them up was so sickeningly selfish and egotistical, and just confirmed to me that he's a control freak when it comes to 'his' babies, and need to defer at least some of his power to other people.

And I totally agree about the Daleks, but they'll keep churning 'em out because a) Briggs loves 'em too much and b) they sell. At least in the early days they found interesting things to do with them, plus NB didn't write them all, and even let other people occasionally do a voice for them (gasp, shock!!)...

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Ohhhhhh, HIM. Actually, he's American, but he MARRIED an Aussie (Kate Orman, who's quite nice, or used to be, but they do both seem to have an inflated sense of worth as writers)... When he writes a successful book that's NOT about the Medic (ie: Cornell, Aaronovich, Shearman), then he can call himself an "author". Frankly, he's a "published fan writer". That's all. His opinion is no more "worthy" than any of ours, so sod him...

No, I'm pretty sure he's extremely important. I mean why else would you sign your name as though it matters after every post? He'd have to be a sniveling egomaniac or something.

Cheers,
DSM

Another one who was disappointed with the second 4th Medic series
I did really enjoy The Anti Mater - and also the first half of the underwater one - But the first two parter with Mr Warner and the Lan was just dismal - so I was very discouraged to see that the final two would be a continuation of that. I haven't had the heart to listen to them yet (I'm really not a fan of the Daleks either which makes matters worse).

The thing is that NB can write great stories - but he hasn't for a long while now and it really feels like he is being over-used and spread too thin.
I dread seeing his name on the cover.

NB can write, but recently you can too easily spot the adventures from the classic TV series that he's liberally borrowed ideas from.

I haven't been too keen on many of the 4th medic adventures this series either - Happenings of Your Dad's Sister was fun but lightweight, Ghosts of the Below was quite atmospheric and the J&L- starring one was fun. The rest were rather humdrum, with the Lan 2-parter being a particualr nadir.

Does NB do so much to avoid having to pay other writers? Maybe Tom + companion is more expensive?

Despite the Moff Fatwa decreed against anyone discussing the 50th Anniversary trailer shown at Comic-Con, i09 seem happy to spill the beans:

The trailer starts out on a haunting, dark note — Matt Smith is walking in the TARDIS, while in voiceover he says, "I've had many faces. Many lives. I don't admit to all of them. There's one life I've tried very hard to forget." And we glimpse the Doctor talking to Clara about his greatest secret.

And then — what looks like the Time War, between the Daleks and the Time Lords! Seriously. Daleks blowing up, flames everywhere, everything going to Hell. And in the middle of all the carnage, John Hurt as the non-Doctor, looking resolute. "Great men are forged in fire," he says. And then something about being the man who lit the flames.

And then, we get Tennant and Smith. Tennant, in his TARDIS, yells "Allons-y," while Matt Smith, in his, yells "Geronimo!"

Rose pops up and warns that "the moment is coming." And John Hurt's non-Doctor says that he is ready for what's going to happen.

And then: the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors comparing their sonic screwdrivers, as Tennant looks possibly a bit jealous of Smith's screwdriver. And then a shot of both of them wearing clever glasses, while Smith wears his fez and they look delighted with their cool gear. And then a glimpse of Rose, looking excited.

Oh, and the TARDIS being airlifted down to Trafalgar Square with the Doctor hanging down from it.

The Doctor Who 50th Anniversary Trailer is an Amazing Thrill Ride

Smith is in the TARDIS, when he says, "I remember this. I pretty much remember." And we see twinkly lights traveling across the Earth.

David Tennant and John Hurt are inside Matt Smith's TARDIS. "Oh, you've redecorated. I don't like it," Tennant says, channeling Patrick Troughton in "The Three Doctors."

A title appears: "This fall, the Doctor will face his darkest day: Himself."

And we see Zygons, plural. Busting out of a glass case. And then some more shots of Daleks blowing up and being torn apart and generally being Da-wrecked.

Inside the TARDIS, Tennant tells Smith, "For once, I would like to know where I'm going." Smith responds: "No, you really wouldn't."

And then, someone says, "I'm looking for the Doctor." And the camera pans around to show Hurt, Tennant and Smith, with the two Doctors trying not to look at their unacknowledged predecessor. Tennant shrugs and says, "Well, you've certainly come to the right place."

Full (spoilery) article here (http://tinyurl.com/le8pzsu)...

Despite the Moff Fatwa decreed against anyone discussing the 50th Anniversary trailer shown at Comic-Con, i09 seem happy to spill the beans:

The trailer starts out on a haunting, dark note — Matt Smith is walking in the TARDIS, while in voiceover he says, "I've had many faces. Many lives. I don't admit to all of them. There's one life I've tried very hard to forget." And we glimpse the Doctor talking to Clara about his greatest secret.

And then — what looks like the Time War, between the Daleks and the Time Lords! Seriously. Daleks blowing up, flames everywhere, everything going to Hell. And in the middle of all the carnage, John Hurt as the non-Doctor, looking resolute. "Great men are forged in fire," he says. And then something about being the man who lit the flames.

And then, we get Tennant and Smith. Tennant, in his TARDIS, yells "Allons-y," while Matt Smith, in his, yells "Geronimo!"

Rose pops up and warns that "the moment is coming." And John Hurt's non-Doctor says that he is ready for what's going to happen.

And then: the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors comparing their sonic screwdrivers, as Tennant looks possibly a bit jealous of Smith's screwdriver. And then a shot of both of them wearing clever glasses, while Smith wears his fez and they look delighted with their cool gear. And then a glimpse of Rose, looking excited.

Oh, and the TARDIS being airlifted down to Trafalgar Square with the Doctor hanging down from it.

The Doctor Who 50th Anniversary Trailer is an Amazing Thrill Ride

Smith is in the TARDIS, when he says, "I remember this. I pretty much remember." And we see twinkly lights traveling across the Earth.

David Tennant and John Hurt are inside Matt Smith's TARDIS. "Oh, you've redecorated. I don't like it," Tennant says, channeling Patrick Troughton in "The Three Doctors."

A title appears: "This fall, the Doctor will face his darkest day: Himself."

And we see Zygons, plural. Busting out of a glass case. And then some more shots of Daleks blowing up and being torn apart and generally being Da-wrecked.

Inside the TARDIS, Tennant tells Smith, "For once, I would like to know where I'm going." Smith responds: "No, you really wouldn't."

And then, someone says, "I'm looking for the Doctor." And the camera pans around to show Hurt, Tennant and Smith, with the two Doctors trying not to look at their unacknowledged predecessor. Tennant shrugs and says, "Well, you've certainly come to the right place."

Full (spoilery) article here (http://tinyurl.com/le8pzsu)...

Yeah, the EXACT same description's been on Doctorwho.TV for a few days now...

Hopefully we'll get officially released trailers for this and AAISAT soon...

The pacing was actually really good in the very early ones - usually episode length was around or under the 25 minute mark - it was a little later on that they got out of control with running times. That's one of the good things Briggs did when he took over, to try and bring the episode lengths back down to 'normal' again...
Will be embarking on an 8/Charley re-do soon myself.

Just at "Natural History Of Fear" - it's a STORY that I really like with a great idea, but another one that just seems to be going on-and-on-and-on-and-on ...

(But please note that according to my iTunes it's at least the third time I've heard it, so that could be influencing thinking.)



What Briggs said recently about loving the 8th Medic stories too much to give them up was so sickeningly selfish and egotistical, and just confirmed to me that he's a control freak when it comes to 'his' babies, and need to defer at least some of his power to other people.


The irony being that the 8DAs weren't HIS baby at all, but A.Barnes and B.Edwards.

I *may* have a proper False Memory of this, but I seem to remember him being relatively dismissive of them when they first started?

Just got back from a (generally shitty) trip to Melbourne to see Pacific Rim in IMAX - well worth it, if you get the opportunity - looks and sounds great. Nice to see Burn Gorman in a reasonably meaty role, too - even if he was playing a cartoon character (but then, so was everyone else).

Anyhoo - catch up time...

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The pacing was actually really good in the very early ones - usually episode length was around or under the 25 minute mark - it was a little later on that they got out of control with running times. That's one of the good things Briggs did when he took over, to try and bring the episode lengths back down to 'normal' again...
Will be embarking on an 8/Charley re-do soon myself.

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No decision required - it's terrible. End of conversation... :)

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If it's a world without Beatles, why reference them at all? They never existed, so the image isn't iconic in that universe!! Aaaargh - wibbly-wobbly...

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Ohhhhhh, HIM. Actually, he's American, but he MARRIED an Aussie (Kate Orman, who's quite nice, or used to be, but they do both seem to have an inflated sense of worth as writers)... When he writes a successful book that's NOT about the Medic (ie: Cornell, Aaronovich, Shearman), then he can call himself an "author". Frankly, he's a "published fan writer". That's all. His opinion is no more "worthy" than any of ours, so sod him...

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Absoultely agree - Johnny Morris is a case in point. Usually one of the most reliable of LCs writers, he's churned out a few clunkers of late, simply because he's writing WAY too much, and the quality meter is slipping. I think it's time they opened their doors again to new talent, or invited a few under-used writers back. Great to see Jonathan Barnes turn up recently, and Matt Fitton shows a lot of promise, but we need MORE variety.

What Briggs said recently about loving the 8th Medic stories too much to give them up was so sickeningly selfish and egotistical, and just confirmed to me that he's a control freak when it comes to 'his' babies, and need to defer at least some of his power to other people.

And I totally agree about the Daleks, but they'll keep churning 'em out because a) Briggs loves 'em too much and b) they sell. At least in the early days they found interesting things to do with them, plus NB didn't write them all, and even let other people occasionally do a voice for them (gasp, shock!!)...

Yep, all what you said!

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No, I'm pretty sure he's extremely important. I mean why else would you sign your name as though it matters after every post? He'd have to be a sniveling egomaniac or something.

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You do make me laugh!

One thing that's just struck me about some of the 8+Charley stories - there's not as much incidental music as we get now. Just listening to 'Twighlty Kingdoom'.

Struck, yet again, just how much slower paced it feels and then whilst considering the production values it struck me how 'quiet' it is. There's 'atmospheric' music (sorta like a Dudley Simpson-lite) but none of the more 'emotional driving incidental' music we get from the likes of Robertson now-a-days.

Hah! I find myself suddenly wishing that I'd taken a more 'formal review' approach to this relisten session as it's fascinating to hear how the format has change in some very subtle ways over the years.

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Latest Vortex did say that an early 2014 release looks likely.
Can't remember where I read it, but I'm fairly certain I've seen it mentioned somewhere that there will be a Dark Eyes III later next year as well.

If it's a world without Beatles, why reference them at all? They never existed, so the image isn't iconic in that universe!! Aaaargh - wibbly-wobbly...


Evidently the crossing of Abbey Road must be a fixed point in time, even sans Beatles.

It's not like there's razor wire stopping anyone from crossing the road. Even ordinary people do it every day.

(c) the BBC asked for major rewrite of DE2 because it was supposed to dovetail into Eccleston's first appearance (I may have imagined this but didnt Briggs say he wanted to do a series after Lucie Miller which would lead up to Time War and regeneration)

I think what it is is that LC have never NOT said that it would dove-tail. There was plenty of fan speculation that LC never scotched.

I'm not sure what they gain by keeping that 'tease' going as (and I mean this in a nice way) their fan-base is generally pretty stable and it's unlikely they'd get a big "brand new buyers" bump out of it, and non-LC-ers would probably still deny it's Canon status.

But, saying that, we've just had a big "gap filling" story in the latest CC for The Master, and we've RTD-Daleks to appear in the final Gally series, so ... er ... I dunno!

The Paul McGann rumour vs LC Productions

I am sure we have all heard the rumours that Paul McGann is going to appear in the 50th Anniversary.

Was thinking about how LC have to run all plot points past BBC Production office and approve releases (for example LC werent allowed to use the Master for a while as he was due to make an appearance on the googlebox). I then thought about how Dark Eyes II boxset was "suddenly" postponed as mentioned by NB in Vortex

We’ll be making an announcement about when the further Dark Eyes releases are coming out. My workload and Paul McGann’s availability have been significant factors in the delay of these releases. We hope to get into studio by the end of September, so an early 2014 release looks likely.

The line about getting into studio suggests the thing has been written and given the speed LC churn these things out now (i.e. 2 days max for a single release) I find it hard to believe time couldn't be found for a week or two to make the original deadline.

So could it be;

(a) the BBC needed Paul McGann hence availability issue
(b) the BBC asked LC to hold off on 8th Doc release due to PMcG appearance on googlebox
(c) the BBC asked for major rewrite of DE2 because it was supposed to dovetail into Eccleston's first appearance (I may have imagined this but didnt Briggs say he wanted to do a series after Lucie Miller which would lead up to Time War and regeneration)
(d) having made Dark Eyes 2, LC decide to hold off on the release till after the 50th Anniversary when Paul McGann's Doc will be more recognisable to fans therefore getting better publicity for sales?

I am likely grasping at straws in my desperation for McGann to "get a go" at the role on tv again, but it seems to me the postponment of DE2 was done VERY late in the day (i.e. scheduled for Nov/Dec - cancelled in July???). Thoughts?

I like your thinking! Fingers crossed; I watched the TV movie recently (still a f*cking edited version on Lovefilm!) and it was so weird. McG pitches his voice quite oddly and I never released how few lines McC gets. So it would be great if McG got at least one more appearance on TV, seeing as he is now the ultimate audio Medic.

...So could it be;

(a) the BBC needed Paul McGann hence availability issue
(b) the BBC asked LC to hold off on 8th Doc release due to PMcG appearance on googlebox
(c) the BBC asked for major rewrite of DE2 because it was supposed to dovetail into Eccleston's first appearance (I may have imagined this but didnt Briggs say he wanted to do a series after Lucie Miller which would lead up to Time War and regeneration)
(d) having made Dark Eyes 2, LC decide to hold off on the release till after the 50th Anniversary when Paul McGann's Doc will be more recognisable to fans therefore getting better publicity for sales?

I am likely grasping at straws in my desperation for McGann to "get a go" at the role on tv again, but it seems to me the postponment of DE2 was done VERY late in the day (i.e. scheduled for Nov/Dec - cancelled in July???). Thoughts?

I think that you're thinking about this too much. :)
Just don't fret about it and enjoy the anniversary special when it happens.

(I'd really love McGann to be in it too - but if you're half expecting him and he doesn't turn up the you'll be disappointed - if you stop thinking about it and he turns up unexpectedly then it'll be fantastic :) )

blah @ major rewrites

I honestly can't see McGann in the 50th, but if he is it'll probably be in the same vein as McCoy in the Movie - he'll appear for 5 minutes just to show him regenerate into Hurt.

I'd love to see McGann get a proper chance but from all the rumours floating around, it seems that Moff really isn't interested in celebrating the whole 50 years. I get the feeling that he doesn't care for anything that doesn't have his fingerprints all over it.

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The Paul McGann rumour vs LC Productions

I am sure we have all heard the rumours that Paul McGann is going to appear in the 50th Anniversary.

Was thinking about how LC have to run all plot points past BBC Production office and approve releases (for example LC werent allowed to use the Master for a while as he was due to make an appearance on the googlebox). I then thought about how Dark Eyes II boxset was "suddenly" postponed as mentioned by NB in Vortex

We�ll be making an announcement about when the further Dark Eyes releases are coming out. My workload and Paul McGann�s availability have been significant factors in the delay of these releases. We hope to get into studio by the end of September, so an early 2014 release looks likely.

The line about getting into studio suggests the thing has been written and given the speed LC churn these things out now (i.e. 2 days max for a single release) I find it hard to believe time couldn't be found for a week or two to make the original deadline.

So could it be;

(a) the BBC needed Paul McGann hence availability issue
(b) the BBC asked LC to hold off on 8th Doc release due to PMcG appearance on googlebox
(c) the BBC asked for major rewrite of DE2 because it was supposed to dovetail into Eccleston's first appearance (I may have imagined this but didnt Briggs say he wanted to do a series after Lucie Miller which would lead up to Time War and regeneration)
(d) having made Dark Eyes 2, LC decide to hold off on the release till after the 50th Anniversary when Paul McGann's Doc will be more recognisable to fans therefore getting better publicity for sales?

I am likely grasping at straws in my desperation for McGann to "get a go" at the role on tv again, but it seems to me the postponment of DE2 was done VERY late in the day (i.e. scheduled for Nov/Dec - cancelled in July???). Thoughts?

I think Paul's availability has always been a problem. He keeps busy. In the 8th Adventures extra's they go on about it, endlessly. That's possibly why they've got him doing boxsets rather than just putting him back in the main range.

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I'd love to see McGann get a proper chance but from all the rumours floating around, it seems that Moff really isn't interested in celebrating the whole 50 years. I get the feeling that he doesn't care for anything that doesn't have his fingerprints all over it.

I dunno. As unpopular as it's been, I think he's been wise to avoid pulling the old Doctors out of retirement. Perhaps McGann could pull it off but any appearance by the others would be a joke! It would be a sure-fire way to ruin the anniversary (& the same fans who feel cheated by their absence would probably never let him forget it)!

More possibly bullshit rumours from the website that loves bullshit rumours....

I'll believe it when Ian Levine denies it! :)

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I honestly can't see McGann in the 50th, but if he is it'll probably be in the same vein as McCoy in the Movie - he'll appear for 5 minutes just to show him regenerate into Hurt....

With the greatest of respect to McCoy, if only he HAD been in for just 5 minutes before Paul was on screen. It's Twenty minutes before the Regen scene. Which may not seem much, but is a heck of a long time to introduce a new face into the role. It's one of the TVM's biggest issues for me.

Just noticed this quote from the Wiki entry on 8th ...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Doctor#Television

The Eighth Doctor appeared very briefly in The Name of the Doctor', where he seems to have shared one adventure with the Second Doctor and both were seen and presumably saved by a version of Clara Oswald[6]

I'm not conceived the two clips were connected, but, by gum, wouldn't 2+8 have made a great combination?

In fact ... BF ... Do a 2 (as played by Hines) + 8 story NOW. And this is from someone that's against recasting! :)

(b) the BBC asked LC to hold off on 8th Doc release due to PMcG appearance on googlebox



As best as I could find that's a media box (like a roku) made by Google. I assume it's something different?

I'll believe it when Ian Levine denies it! :)

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I'm not conceived the two clips were connected, but, by gum, wouldn't 2+8 have made a great combination?

In fact ... BF ... Do a 2 (as played by Hines) + 8 story NOW. And this is from someone that's against recasting! :)

I liked the one with 2 & 4 and thought that the son did a good job. I'd love to hear more from him.

BTW I'd love to fill in the gaps of my 8th medic run. I need the latter half of his first series and just about all of 2 & 3. Any help would be appreciated.

As best as I could find that's a media box (like a roku) made by Google. I assume it's something different?

katrinaau meant "gogglebox" - a British nick-name for TV.

Regarding another Doctor appearing in the 50th -http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/355000 (that mentions another Doctor, along with the return of Confidential).

And this further speculates: At least four Doctors for Doctor Who 50th-anniversary special (http://digitaljournal.com/article/355002)

Who can it be.....

The answer is: Peter Davison
After all, he is 'Dr Everything'... he played a doctor, his daughter played a female incarnation [Jenny], his daughter is married to David Tennant, and his incarnation [the 5th] was the 10th's favourite.
He, also has not commented, that he wouldn't be in the show.
How much nepotism does there need to be?

Personally, and apologises to all those who 'love' 5, but he was the weakest actor to play the role, all of his stories were rubbish [find a good one - even the Dalek one was sooooo tweet], he had the worst fashion, the worst companions, and as a person, he is quite unlikeable, so of course he will be the one forced upon us, with the statement that he is the only one under 70. [he is 62], he wasn't believable as Tristan Farnon, as Inspector Christmas, as [add any of his roles] and now he looks more like Tim Brooke-Taylor than Doctor 5..... how are we supposed to forget that he died in The Caves of Androzani.
and accept that he is OLD. They used an unseen young actor to play 5 in 'The Name of the Doctor', because he is fat and grey.
The second reason:
He is next to PMcG, in number of audios/appearances and comics, so they are both the likeliest to be in the 'special'


The question I have, isn't who will be the 'classic', but why the 'F' Rose????, Dr 9 had her, Dr 10 had 3/4 companions, if 10 not 9 is in, why does that useless, Billie Piper have to get the gig.??.... the only way, or reason for it to work, if 10 is not 10 but is the 1/2 doctor with his 'wife' turning up, but we know that she left the 1/2 dr, as seen in 'Turn Left', because he wasn't good enough for her.

Who can it be.....

The answer is: Peter Davison
After all, he is 'Dr Everything'... he played a doctor, his daughter played a female incarnation [Jenny], his daughter is married to David Tennant, and his incarnation [the 5th] was the 10th's favourite.
He, also has not commented, that he wouldn't be in the show.
How much nepotism does there need to be?

Personally, and apologises to all those who 'love' 5, but he was the weakest actor to play the role, all of his stories were rubbish [find a good one - even the Dalek one was sooooo tweet], he had the worst fashion, the worst companions, and as a person, he is quite unlikeable, so of course he will be the one forced upon us, with the statement that he is the only one under 70. [he is 62], he wasn't believable as Tristan Farnon, as Inspector Christmas, as [add any of his roles] and now he looks more like Tim Brooke-Taylor than Doctor 5..... how are we supposed to forget that he died in The Caves of Androzani.
and accept that he is OLD. They used an unseen young actor to play 5 in 'The Name of the Doctor', because he is fat and grey.
The second reason:
He is next to PMcG, in number of audios/appearances and comics, so they are both the likeliest to be in the 'special'


The question I have, isn't who will be the 'classic', but why the 'F' Rose????, Dr 9 had her, Dr 10 had 3/4 companions, if 10 not 9 is in, why does that useless, Billie Piper have to get the gig.??.... the only way, or reason for it to work, if 10 is not 10 but is the 1/2 doctor with his 'wife' turning up, but we know that she left the 1/2 dr, as seen in 'Turn Left', because he wasn't good enough for her.

Yes, piss off Rose!!!

A Rose by any other name would smell of Exterminate me's piss.

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...Personally, and apologises to all those who 'love' 5, but he was the weakest actor to play the role, all of his stories were rubbish...

I'm no Fan of Five but I would strongly diagree that "all his stories were rubbish". "The Caves of Androzani" is widely aknowledged as one of the very best stories from the classic era. "Mawdryn Undead", "Earthshock" and "Black Orchid" weren't bad either.

I'm no Fan of Five but I would strongly diagree that "all his stories were rubbish". "The Caves of Androzani" is widely aknowledged as one of the very best stories from the classic era. "Mawdryn Undead", "Earthshock" and "Black Orchid" weren't bad either.

Widely acknowledged by whom???? Mawdryn Undead has a bunch of pizza heads in silly dresses, and a big bang when the 2 Brigs meet, apart from that we have "Oh please don't make me give up all my remaining lives..." and part 1 of the Black Guardian's plot. Earthshock's claim to fame is the death of Adric [and the "Who cried when Adric Died' TShirt], Black Orchid??? please find a better one... [Of course you could have said 'Planet of Fire'...... but the first appearance of Nicola Bryant doesn't even save that one...]

Oooh - I'd forgotten "Planet of Fire" - Doctor Who versus Jason King - it's shite alright, but watchable shite.

I never warmed to Five - it was the early 80s and the height of the Thatcher/Reagan era. He was a product of his time. In my mind the Fifth Doctor will always be the Thatcherite Doctor...

TeaBoy,

I went to the net to prove my point and found this; ?The Caves Of Androzani? | Doctor Who (Classic) | TV Club | TV | The A.V. Club (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-caves-of-androzani,91898/)
I have no idea if this guy was writing a thesis or a dissertation, but I think he has spent too long in the Psychology Dept.
Either way, he likens 'Caves of Androzani' to 'Pyramids of Mars'...have a read.....

5 doesn't suck. Peter Davison sucks, [if I was given control of BBC Dr Who production, it would be the first thing I would re-shoot, with better actors in the Dr & Companion roles, better sets, better graphics and better scripts, the books are quite good, the audios even work..a bit..], that, was my reply to 'Ex,Me'

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I found another web site - it also loves 'Caves', and most of the actors, the writing, the directing...and even the characterisation of the Doctor,... but I still feel it is the actor, not the role, as to why, all of Davison's episodes don't work.. but I have to agree, Caves has a popularity in 2009, listed at top of the 200 episodes listed.... but that also relies on the 'young' vote not the full fan-dom vote.

...but we know that she left the 1/2 dr, as seen in 'Turn Left', because he wasn't good enough for her.
3 words: WATCH "JOURNEY'S END"...10.2 didn't even exist in "Turn Left", igit.

"Turn Left was the eleventh episode of the fourth series of Doctor Who. It was the first Doctor-lite episode to focus on the main companion without the Doctor and marks the first main reappearance of Rose Tyler."

It has Rose traveling in time, or do you think she is going back to change everything because it worked out in Journey's End??

And what has a comment, stating the actress Billie Piper, and the world's most over-rated DR Who companion Rose, being in the 50th, have to do with which episode she leaves 1/2 in?, how about you read the comments, understand what we are saying to each other and join in, with something that makes sense or at least makes it sound like you may have watched the classic series when it was first run, and not on DVD.

Had to be one..... good night guys

5 doesn't suck. Peter Davison sucks, [if I was given control of BBC Dr Who production, it would be the first thing I would re-shoot, with better actors (...)


When I get that way, I have to tell myself that accepting an (arguably) weaker casting choice simply reminds us to sympathize with the Doctor's lack of control over his own regeneration process.

Of course, I'm not sure how much control any person can be expected to have to focus his will properly when:
* he's dying of organ failure and old age;
* being regeneration-raped by Time Lords;
* demented from spider-radiation;
* cracking his skull falling from a tower;
* drugged and poisoned;
* fainted from a harsh landing (and canceled contract);
* shot and toasted with a monocardic defibrillator...

So what do we think of the casting for "The Avengers : Lost Stories" - I like what Howell (who's playing Keel) has done for BF so far, but don't know enough about Wadham (Steed) to comment. Never seen any of the existing stories from that era, so don't now how they'll fit the roles.

I hadn't seen this before today, the 9th installment of the Fate of the Medics will be performed by ......

Cast
Nicholas Briggs, John Schwab (McNeil)
??

It has to be a dalek Adventure. He does the Cybermen too? One of them.

Stick all his episodes together and he's more stand out than some of the companions.

Besides? Nine means Rose, Jack or to a inoverstatable degree Adam.

The Pedia of Wiki lists the 9th "Fate of" as having both Rose and Jack. 10th will have Donna, and 11th, Clara.

It has to be a dalek Adventure. He does the Cybermen too? One of them.

Stick all his episodes together and he's more stand out than some of the companions.

Besides? Nine means Rose, Jack or to a inoverstatable degree Adam.

I am sure JB would have done it in a heartbeat if asked, and you know what, there would have a slither of a chance to use Adam, and I am sure the ex soap actor, who nobody has seen in anything for ages, would have done it too! Maybe its the "contractual" excuse being rolled out again, however Cathrine is doing 10 and Jenna is doing 11, so I doubt it actually is!
Really am wondering why no one from the show is doing 9's though.....its strange!

They still can't do the time war?

Becuase it didn't seem like the first time that 9 had met the Dalek Emperor.

Penelope Wilton would have been fun.

Especially if she's meeting 9 again after 10 already did her over.

but that would be far to much to ask for. :)

Or they could have asked Camille Coduri to read it.

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Confidential returning is like a mind-blowing major thing for me. I enjoyed it more than many of the actual episodes themselves.

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It has to be a dalek Adventure. He does the Cybermen too? One of them.

Stick all his episodes together and he's more stand out than some of the companions.

Besides? Nine means Rose, Jack or to a inoverstatable degree Adam.

Do not overlook The Mickster.

Confidential returning is like a mind-blowing major thing for me....

As long as they keep it about how the programme was made and doesn't turn into back-slapping. (LC Extras, I'm looking at you ...)

As long as they keep it about how the programme was made and doesn't turn into back-slapping. (LC Extras, I'm looking at you ...)

Very True.
Although there was a CC recently where the extras were done by the sound design team - that was pretty great.

thanks Bulletzen ...once again :)

I read something today, can't remember where unfortunately, but i'm now slightly hopeful of Paul McGann being involved - likely only in a small way.



The Paul McGann rumour vs LC Productions

I am sure we have all heard the rumours that Paul McGann is going to appear in the 50th Anniversary.

Was thinking about how LC have to run all plot points past BBC Production office and approve releases (for example LC werent allowed to use the Master for a while as he was due to make an appearance on the googlebox). I then thought about how Dark Eyes II boxset was "suddenly" postponed as mentioned by NB in Vortex

We�ll be making an announcement about when the further Dark Eyes releases are coming out. My workload and Paul McGann�s availability have been significant factors in the delay of these releases. We hope to get into studio by the end of September, so an early 2014 release looks likely.

The line about getting into studio suggests the thing has been written and given the speed LC churn these things out now (i.e. 2 days max for a single release) I find it hard to believe time couldn't be found for a week or two to make the original deadline.

So could it be;

(a) the BBC needed Paul McGann hence availability issue
(b) the BBC asked LC to hold off on 8th Doc release due to PMcG appearance on googlebox
(c) the BBC asked for major rewrite of DE2 because it was supposed to dovetail into Eccleston's first appearance (I may have imagined this but didnt Briggs say he wanted to do a series after Lucie Miller which would lead up to Time War and regeneration)
(d) having made Dark Eyes 2, LC decide to hold off on the release till after the 50th Anniversary when Paul McGann's Doc will be more recognisable to fans therefore getting better publicity for sales?

I am likely grasping at straws in my desperation for McGann to "get a go" at the role on tv again, but it seems to me the postponment of DE2 was done VERY late in the day (i.e. scheduled for Nov/Dec - cancelled in July???). Thoughts?

Anyone have the 7th anniversary ebook yet?

Glad Charley is in this, I miss her!



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Me too, Charley is one of my favourites on and off screen.

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Thankz Bulletzen!!!!

Thanks Bulletzen!

...
I think Outpost Skaro is just a fan group (albeit an at timed well informed one), but its adding fuel to the fire of the Paul McGann rumour.

Again, I believe it when Levine denies he's seen three tonnes of evidence to support it. :)

(really has fingers crossed we do get PMcG back on screen.)

Thank you Bulletzen

Confidential returning is like a mind-blowing major thing for me. I enjoyed it more than many of the actual episodes themselves.

I read it as returning to announce the new Doctor.

Does it say it's returning for the anniversary special as well somewhere?

Bulletzen....you are the best!

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Bulletzen...you ROCK!!!

Grazie, Bulletzen! Been looking forward to this one! I'm friends with Alan Barnes on Facebook, so I'll be able to give him direct feedback on it. :)

Outpost Skaro is full of crap, and only ever correct by sheer coincidence.

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Maybe that's why he was only in one frame in the Doctor's name? So no one would spasm about how much he's changed in the course of one episode?

I agree that Charley is one of my favorite companions. Don't care much for Lucie Miller. Same goes for Kitty in The Minister of Chance is chalkboard scrapping level irritating. Nothing wrong with a strong, feisty female characters but written or acted the wrong way and they just come off as loud and annoying *cough*ROSE*cough* =)

Thank you Bulletzen - you legend!!!

And thank you everyone else for their debate and discussion. Very entertaining, as always. Glad that if we disagree on stuff we do it nicely - it would be pretty boring if we did all agree!

Again, I believe it when Levine denies he's seen three tonnes of evidence to support it. :)

(really has fingers crossed we do get PMcG back on screen.)

And that he's wearing the new costume.

Thank you so much Bulletzen! I've probably been looking forward to this one the most of all - I miss Charley desperately!

As for the article, I've been hearing for months now that McGann will appear in

Any morsels on the missing episode front? (he says, opening a kettle of fish something akin to Pandora's Box)

Any morsels on the missing episode front? (he says, opening a kettle of fish something akin to Pandora's Box)

Not that I've heard lately.

The new D*o*r*i*a*n g*r*e*y is out today. What's people's thoughts on the first series. Is it worth time?

The new D*o*r*i*a*n g*r*e*y is out today. What's people's thoughts on the first series. Is it worth time?

100% worth the time in my opinion!

The Dorian vs. Bernice Summerfield over in Bennyland was outstanding, but by the time I noticed that, I'd already filed away "his" series into deep storage, and I'm afraid of the bats that roost in that part of the house.

Do bats roost?