hm i wonder if someone will still post the l.e.

I hope so, I want to hear the This Is Big Finish cd, just to hear what it is. I'm going to try and wait for my cd to arrive before listening. I got the Standard edition as I could not justify spending $70 on the limited edition.

I pre-ordered the vinyl and was planning on buying both of the CD sets just before release. Then the surprise. When the site came back on, I still didn't have my digital copy that should have come with my vinyl waiting. Comments here would suggest I should have. Not a big deal as I have already purchase/downloaded the CD sets but still annoying. Luckily my order history still shows the vinyl purchase because I'm paranoid enough to believe they lost it.

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Many, many thanks! :)

GOLDIE!!! thank-you so much!!!!
to get this and share even before you hear it yourself is truly amazing!
I have a 4 hr bus trip on Sat, so I know what I'll be doing, *hugs*

Oh, and to everyone else: can we reconsider the statue thing now? I really don't think a park bench is gonna cut it after this

Thanks goldie!!

Thank you goldie2012! What a treat! :-)

Thank you so much Goldie, will you marry me? I will just have to clear that with my wife first though.
This is a tricky one, I've been bursting to listen to this, like a drunk man in a taxi bursting for a wee, but I was going to listen to it on my 2 hour train journey down to the excel next month on the 22nd..
So question is, do I have the self control to wait?.
Also it's inevitable that in time bits of the story line will come out on here. I think I may have to lock myself in a nice dark room this weekend and pretend I have a migraine so I can enjoy it in it's full uninterrupted glory.

Looking for baby clothes for my little one,

Just saw this and like it, even though I feel I shouldn't

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Also Just seen this is coming to my local cinema, thought it was just a few selected ones.
http://www.myvue.com/latest-movies/info/cinema/norwich/film/doctor-who-the-day-of-the-doctor-3d

But I didn't realise that tickets actually go on sale from tomorrow
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/27833/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-cinema-screening-details

Oh, and to everyone else: can we reconsider the statue thing now? I really don't think a park bench is gonna cut it after this

Hmmmmmm - spend a fortune on a massive statue of one of MANY people who share things here, or on further audio goodies that can be shared here??

Gee, that's a toughie... ;)

(BTW: Thank you goldie - tides me over 'til the physical version arrives...)

Hi everyone,
I haven't started the special audio because I'm still catching up on a few recent ones (almost there, yay!!!) but I keep coming in here to make sure I don't miss something in the meantime.

So, I just wondered if I could make a suggestion; before putting something in spoiler tags, can we maybe have a brief sentence/few words to give us an idea of the likely subject matter? That way we can see if it's something new to download/picture to see etc without accidentally seeing a real spoiler for a story.

Thanks guys!

PS I've just finished that final homeworld set. I'm probably in the minority, but I quite enjoyed it. Also, the last bit after the theme on the bonus disk - the savage (and others) talking about timelady 1 - was very moving.

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Can I ask anyone who's listened to it - do I need to be completely up to date with BF storylines to understand what's going on? I still haven't gotten around to Dark Eyes or the latest few of the main range yet...


Nope. Stands on it's own 16 feet.


What about any relationship to the 1963 Trilogy? Since the description for Light@End specifies the same year (Anno Medici), I expected that the one storyline would have to be listened to before the other. However the early release of the Special has left me confused on what the ideal order should be. Any suggestions?

Thanks Goldie, much appreciated.

What about any relationship to the 1963 Trilogy? Since the description for Light@End specifies the same year (Anno Medici), I expected that the one storyline would have to be listened to before the other. However the early release of the Special has left me confused on what the ideal order should be. Any suggestions?

As far as I know, the only connection between any of the 4 stories is that they all take place in 1963. I haven't heard the last two stories of the trilogy (since they haven't come out yet!), but there were no links that I could see between the first of the trilogy and the special. Besides, I doubt that they would have released this special so early if you needed to listen to the others first, especially since they've released the second of the trilogy later than usual. There's no ideal order.

The three CC anniversary stories will have the connection to each other of one new character from the home planet. It would probably make sense to listen to those in order.

What about any relationship to the 1963 Trilogy? Since the description for Light@End specifies the same year (Anno Medici), I expected that the one storyline would have to be listened to before the other. However the early release of the Special has left me confused on what the ideal order should be. Any suggestions?

It's completely stand-alone. The only thing that even vaguely connects it to anything else is the year.


And ... it's a bit ham-fisted about that bit, to be honest. Subtlety, thy name is not NB ...

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Thanks Goldie you are one lovely lady! Slightly OT had an intersting dream about the medic last night, about the 50th, Hurt was really the first medic before Hartnal and was taken control of by the Pepperpots using a nanobot type device and used during the time war. This of course took place in an old church building I used to go to long years ago

It's completely stand-alone. The only thing that even vaguely connects it to anything else is the year.


And ... it's a bit ham-fisted about that bit, to be honest. Subtlety, thy name is not NB ...

There is also one previously used LC character from several past stories - but it really doesn't matter if you don't know that, it's not important to...

Hi all,

I know most are focusing on the 50th festivities, and I don't want to be a distraction, but does anyone have active links for Fourth Medic 2.06 and 2.07?

Much appreciated!

And the song from Fanfare of the Common Man is on the radio at the start. Though that is just a nice touch (well I thought so!) as opposed to a crucial plot point!!

Definitely stand alone.

Regards the story ...

SNIP


I thought I recognised that radio music, but I didn't connect it.

On the story ...


I was a bit underwhelmed, if I'm honest. Perfectly good fluff and fine performances all-round. TB+PMcG make an excellent team - more please!

Jammy Robbyson seems to have been delving into the Giacchino, Arnold and Gold play-book for the score. Not a bad thing, as such, but I kept finding myself thinking "Oh, that's the Giacchino opening from Star Trek, there's the Arnold Star Gate horn-calls, and there's the Gold 'throw everything at it' moment."

But my main problem is that The Masters plot is complete rubbish and, to all intent, solved with 'one jump and all eight were free'. And ... plot hole? ... if The Doc hadn't set off with that Tardis etc etc he'd never have met The Master who'd then not be in a position to do the plot he just did ...

It didn't hang together quite as well as The Four Ds. That was an excellent multi-D story.

The very closing scene is quite funny, but over-all it just left me with a bit of an "Yeah, it's OK" feeling.


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There is also one previously used LC character from several past stories - but it really doesn't matter if you don't know that, it's not important to...

Couldn't think of who you were talking about for a moment! But, yeah, you don't need to know that character for the story.

My random thoughts on IT
The irony is that it would have been a stronger story with fewer Doctors.

The irony is that it would have been a stronger story with fewer Doctors.

Okay... Well I for one, listened to Part one in bed last night. The mind's visual images were good, as listening to HHGTTG for the first time. Listening to part two as working on a work based project, and again, getting some lovely images. BUT... It is a bit of a mismash.
HOWEVER... Lovely to hear the medics that are no longer with us in a story. Will Bloody Blatant Cretins manage to do the concept justice in the half century shindig?
Just rejoice. Its the four plus one medic story we always wanted, with a few extra medics thrown in the mix.
Ok, I'm dead meat. :(

Thank you goldie!! What nice early surprise

My random thoughts on IT
The irony is that it would have been a stronger story with fewer Doctors.

Or an extra part or two?

The Four D's showed how well the 'multi-doc but doc's don't really meet and get in the way of each other ' format can work.

Or an extra part or two?

The Four D's showed how well the 'multi-doc but doc's don't really meet and get in the way of each other ' format can work.

An extra two parts would have done it justice I believe. The chemistry between a few of the companions was really great as well.

I am going to try and listen to it on the Anniversary Weekend. Believe my CD will be sent out tomorrow. I only went for standard as I am not a fan of Interviews and stuff.

I don't wish to be that guy that asks for stuff that is just released and I apologise if it seems I am (hope I have proved I am not in the time I have been here) but with all this going on did I miss the Oct releases or did they not get released yet?

I am going to try and listen to it on the Anniversary Weekend. Believe my CD will be sent out tomorrow. I only went for standard as I am not a fan of Interviews and stuff.

I don't wish to be that guy that asks for stuff that is just released and I apologise if it seems I am (hope I have proved I am not in the time I have been here) but with all this going on did I miss the Oct releases or did they not get released yet?

Not out yet

...did I miss the Oct releases or did they not get released yet?

Don''t panic. It's not out yet.

Not out yet

Thanks for that. I guess they are leaving it late this month because they wanted to trump it with the special and allow bandwidth for that.

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Don''t panic. It's not out yet.
Cheers Nobber

Thanks for that. I guess they are leaving it late this month because they wanted to trump it with the special and allow bandwidth for that.

Most likely. Which is fine with me. Months where everything pops out the first week are HORRIBLY long months.

I've got a yes/ no question for you ( remember I haven't listened to it yet ) but is TLATE going to be better than TODAY OF THE MEDIC ? I know we haven't seen it but let's guess.

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I thought The Illumination in the Rear was just "meh".

It started out promisingly, despite the sub-standard Murray Gold pastiche theme, and for a while I was engaged with the Bob story - John Dorney chanelling Russell Tovey had me hooked for a while, but then it all got lost in the usual Braggs brew of fannish, fawning, fuddle-flab.

On the plus side...
at least the Daleks didn't turn up!

On the plus side...

OR DID THEY



I was more bothered by It had nothing to do with the Mistermind than ANYTHING else in it to be honest.

thank you katrinaau

OR DID THEY





HAHAHAHAAA!!



I was more bothered by It had nothing to do with the Mistermind than ANYTHING else in it to be honest.

I'd not thought about it like that, TBH, but now that you've mentioned it ... spoilered if you've not heard Mastermind.


Having five individual stories for the Doctor(s) that we find are linked to, and masterminded by, The Master during his body rental period would be a superb tale.

Nyssa should have turned on the Medic thus saving first daddy and then Traken.

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And ... plot hole? ... if The Doc hadn't set off with that Tardis etc etc he'd never have met The Master who'd then not be in a position to do the plot he just did ...


The Doc and The Master were childhood friends, BEST friends in fact, and The Doc didn't "set off with that Tardis" until he was over 600 years old...ergo, u'r argument is invalid.

The Doc and The Master were childhood friends, BEST friends in fact, and The Doc didn't "set off with that Tardis" until he was over 600 years old...ergo, u'r argument is invalid.

Don't forget the spoilers for those that haven't heard it yet ....


Fair enough. But had The Doctor not RE-met The Master whilst off on his travels, the Master would have been off doing various evil moustache-twirling across the galaxy and never had to think abut de-railing The Doctor in the first place. It's a Grandfather Paradox.

It really says a lot for the justification of staying on Gallifrey when a medic can go 600 years without regenerating and then in the following 300-ish years he does is nearly 12 times.

for a wildly imprecise value of 300-ish.
Also bear in mind that if he was like the other TLs he could have traveled around for all those years and still not regenerated.

It does say a lot about Gallifrey's stick-mittens-on-everyone approach:
'On Gallifrey, we can save you from yourself.
Of course, if you don't want to be saved you'll "borrow" a TARDIS and bugger off to the back of beyond whatever we do...'

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learning that the Lloyd Center Mall Theater will be showing "The Day of the Doctor" in my neck of the woods, is making me want to cry.
Even though I should be happy since I will soon be the proud owner of a 4th Doctor Sonic Screwdriver. :'( :)

Two thoughts;

1. "Superfan's Shada" is actually really, really good. The Tom Baker impersonation is off, but I actually like it after a while. The animation is decent and it is better than watching 70s clips intercut with Tom Baker in a pin stripe suit talking in front of a Skagra outfit! Weird thing is the alternating K9 voices; 1970s David Brierley and current day John Leeson. But other than that absolutely tremendous and enjoyable.

2. Ive noticed this before, but judging by the downloads I get every time I post something clearly there are a LOT more people out there who never post or make a peep. Say hello good people!! We dont bite and we're all friendly...

I never have anything interesting to say but I love looking at this thread.

Don't forget the spoilers for those that haven't heard it yet ....


Fair enough. But had The Doctor not RE-met The Master whilst off on his travels, the Master would have been off doing various evil moustache-twirling across the galaxy and never had to think abut de-railing The Doctor in the first place. It's a Grandfather Paradox.


fair enough

Surely, the Master would have Paradox blocked himself again like he did when he took over the Earth on the TV a couple years ago, other wise he wouldn't know that he won. What would have been the Universal consequences of the Three Doctors with Omega coming back if the Medic wasn't there to cock block him?

Gave it another spin this evening ... so updated thoughts ...


Primary I'm still not convinced that the plot actually hangs together that well, but, hmm, let's just put it down to timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly bollocks. Not the most satisfying of suspension-of-disblief, but we'll go with it to a degree.

On the whole, though, it's just that the pacing is all off. There's story beats that seem to feel a cliff-hanger is due that never comes, so the mid-break cliff-hanger feels overdue. Definitely feels like it should have been fleshed out a bit more to a 6x25min story.

Slight shame that TB's stuff feels to have been recorded in isolation (not heard the extras, so if that's wrong please forgive me) as his takes never feel to quite fit with the rest. There's just a teeny pause too long before he kicks in.

I really applaud what NB tried to do, but honestly don't feel he pulled it off as well as he did with The Four.

So to end on positive notes - at least he didn't have them bickering all the time like previous multi-doc stories have done, and it really does sound superb and there's no denying that the cast obviously enjoyed themselves.


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..Paradox blocked ...?

Is that the Time Lord version of C*ck Blocking?

has anyone got a copy of the m*y*t*h m*a*k*e*r*s tv soundtrack please

I have just one major MAJOR gripe with TLATE

Straxus. Being a massive Robin of Sherwood fan, he was my favourite recurring BF character purely because of Nickolas Grace's brilliant performance (I reckon he'd have made a cracking Doctor back in the 80s). If they couldn't have gotten Nickolas in, I'd rather they just had a different timelord - the fella playing him in TLATE is rather forgettable. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with it, great bit of fanwank. The story isn't mindblowing (they shoulda gotten Rob Shearman!) but the charm of the lead actors carries it through. I reckon TDOTD will have a stronger story, but less fan service.

Other than that, I'm a happy bunny, massive thanks again and marriage proposals etc to Goldie!

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has anyone got a copy of the m*y*t*h m*a*k*e*r*s tv soundtrack please

I can do that for ya but it might well be tomorrow before it's upped...

Two thoughts;

1. "Superfan's Shada" is actually really, really good. The Tom Baker impersonation is off, but I actually like it after a while. The animation is decent and it is better than watching 70s clips intercut with Tom Baker in a pin stripe suit talking in front of a Skagra outfit! Weird thing is the alternating K9 voices; 1970s David Brierley and current day John Leeson. But other than that absolutely tremendous and enjoyable..

actually I thought it was pretty good too ... certainly a great improvement on what we had before (though The Hon. LW's reading of the new novelization is a joy).

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Two thoughts;

1. "Superfan's Shada" is actually really, really good. The Tom Baker impersonation is off, but I actually like it after a while. The animation is decent and it is better than watching 70s clips intercut with Tom Baker in a pin stripe suit talking in front of a Skagra outfit! Weird thing is the alternating K9 voices; 1970s David Brierley and current day John Leeson. But other than that absolutely tremendous and enjoyable.

2. Ive noticed this before, but judging by the downloads I get every time I post something clearly there are a LOT more people out there who never post or make a peep. Say hello good people!! We dont bite and we're all friendly...

I'll take you up on that!

I don't tend to post much, as I don't have much to say (besides thanks!), and I'm never sure how up to date I am with the audios, so I can't keep up with all of the conversations. I'm also away from home for weeks at a time, so I lose track of the thread easily :P (also I've become infuriated by forums in the past [not just Who], and so I tend to keep my distance). But I check in when something's happening in the Whoniverse; I like to see the responses. I also like to find out what the opinions of the audios are, since they get a relatively low profile elsewhere on the web.

That Sha'da was very good. I tried watching the VHS a few years ago, but I couldn't engage with it, with the older Ba'ker cutting in every now and again. Superfan's is very good, very well made. I'm not sure if I'd have preferred John Leeson to re-record Brierly's voice for the flow of the sound... but that might have been disrespectful. In any case, the cuts between live action and animation (and between the Doctor and K-9's voices) were relatively comfortable. It's not a perfect story, but a very entertaining one, and pretty completely so, now.

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I do have a question, though. I'm just starting on the Home Planet series, and I'm wondering if anyone knows an approximate chronology for the characters. Obviously it picks up after Zaqreus, but does anyone know where the other audios fit into it? Particularly Romania and Leeeeeela's timelines (I'm only really interested in the audios, but any info about significant events in the novels/comics wouldn't hurt). I've heard the Quay2Time, which has some involvement from Romania, and the first four series of the Victorian Chaps, which includes Leeeeeeeeeela, but I'm not sure whereabouts they go, or if there's any other stories that involve those two (or the events of Home Planet)

I'm a bit of a chronology freak. I like an order to these things. I have no idea why.

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Any chance of the 5.1 mp4 video version being posted? this seems to be in regular stereo...

It's not a perfect story, but a very entertaining one, and pretty completely so, now.....

Just get the LC version of Shardah with PMcG and Ms W. Yes, the animated version has questionable visuals, so just LISTEN to the full CD release. It's a far better telling of the story, IMHO, than the various recons/re-do's to date.

(And I didn't rate her reading of the book last year, either, She's, with respect, too poe-faced to read an Adams' inspired book. Her comic timing just isn't up to it.)

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]I do have a question, though. I'm just starting on the Home Planet series ...

TBH, I honestly wouldn't get that too hung up on that. After S1 it goes on it's own merry way with scant regard to other bits of the universe as LC have already described. It's not until much later (S5, IIRC) that it even touches on the extended universe via Ms Summeryfield and even that's tenuous.

Suffice to say. It's after The Savage leaves the TARDIS and then it follows its own timeline.

has anyone got a copy of the m*y*t*h m*a*k*e*r*s tv soundtrack please

Here ya go (least I could do!)

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I'm a bit of a chronology freak. I like an order to these things. I have no idea why.

Aren't we all? We're all Medic fans, after all :D

Good to hear from you, btw! Nice to have other voices pop in from time to time!

My 2 Grotzits on TLATE:

Agree with most people's opinions re: the plot - it's a bit light and silly, but so was 5 Medics.

- The music was a little OTT & derivative - ofter sounded like Gold trying to rip-off Howard Shore's LOTR score. Also, not as impressed with the special version of the theme as others - started well, then just turned into an Uber-Gold mess. And I HATE the Electric Guitar in it...

- Pleasantly surprised that the title was actually, quite literally, related directly to something in the story, and not just a pretty turn of phrase.

- Disappointed by the portrayals of the first 3 medics: Russell was mostly ok, but often too obviously himself (but at least less OTT than the guy on the Planet of Bigguns re-con!!), the guy doing Perters was just just CRAP, not convincing at all, and even the usually reliable Mr Hines seemed to be having an off day... They were used well, however, and it was nice to have them invovlved in the story in some way...

- Beevers was as superb as usual, but had sod all to actually do. Nobber, love your idea of 5 separate stories...

- Agree McGann & TB worked beautifully together, as did Charles & the Savage. Wished TB had had more time with the others, too. Also really liked the synergy between Sixie & Percy James Patrick Kent Smith - didn't expect that. Interesting that Davo was mostly on his own, though...

- Surprised by how large a chunk of the story stayed with 5 & Nyssa. However, as a confirmed Sixie lover, I'm thrilled he 'saved the day' as such...

- Loved Ace's descriptions of the other Medics: "Longscarf Bigeyes" just had me in stitches for some reason!!

- Glad NB managed to contain himself to just one alien voice, but oh, dear lord, his son has such an ANNOYING voice!! :)

All in all, more or less what I'd expect from an NB scripted multi-doc story. Not great, but far from awful, and great fun to listen to. But yes, and extra part would've been nice...

Aren't we all? We're all Medic fans, after all :D

:)

I'm trying to work out where to slip it into my 8th chronology (he's the first Doc to appear, so it's his story. YMMV) but it means re-doing all the track numbers as I've not left space for more early Charley stories. Obviously early in their partnership, at the very least.

Or ...


As it's Six that comes up with the idea that starts the 'save the day', I could make his his story?

Yeah, I'd count it as an 8th tale, but god knows where I'd put it!! :)

Above post amended to include my thoughts on the thing...

Oh, and thanks for the extras, katrinaau - much appreciated! :D

She's, with respect, too poe-faced to read an Adams' inspired book.

Just get the LC version of Shardah with PMcG and Ms W. Yes, the animated version has questionable visuals, so just LISTEN to the full CD release. It's a far better telling of the story, IMHO, than the various recons/re-do's to date.


I watched that when it first came out, and it was good... but I didn't think McG handled the Adams/Ba'ker dialogue particularly well. I still enjoyed it, but certain bits I felt would be better with 4 rather than 8. It was great to have the full story, though.


TBH, I honestly wouldn't get that too hung up on that. After S1 it goes on it's own merry way with scant regard to other bits of the universe as LC have already described. It's not until much later (S5, IIRC) that it even touches on the extended universe via Ms Summeryfield and even that's tenuous.

Suffice to say. It's after The Savage leaves the TARDIS and then it follows its own timeline.
I haven't listened to any Bennny, what connections are there? Besides Irviiing Brax, who I know is a key character in Bennny. Also, are they any good? 12 series or so is a lot to try and get into, let alone get hold of, is it worth it?

Picture

Blimey. I thought that was Nigel Planer at first!

can someone post the pics that came with the LE set?

huge thanks

hm how many 50th audios are they doing or is it just this one?

and umm in what ep or audio thingie has there been a successful time-ram?

I haven't listened to any Bennny, what connections are there? Besides Irviiing Brax, who I know is a key character in Bennny. Also, are they any good? 12 series or so is a lot to try and get into, let alone get hold of, is it worth it?

There's a connection via the character of Brax, but it's one of those that it honestly doesn't matter if you've not heard the Bennyverse stories.

As for the Benny lot ... personally I really liked up to the penultimate series before they moved to boxset format (S8?) and there's some cracking stuff along the way. She's played well, and has a generally fine supporting cast in some very good stories.

Are they worth listening too? On the whole, I'd say .. yes. But start at the beginning - S5 at the latest.

I know LC keep saying that that each of the recent boxsets are meant to be 'new listeners start here' but, IMHO, they never managed to really sweep the story-deck clean enough to make it as clear a new story line as they'd hoped. The character at that point at the end 'season CDs' move to boxset run honestly never gave them a position to entirely wipe the story slate clean.

So, IMHO, the boxset ones have been a bit of a 'stutter' as they can't make their minds up what the heck they're doing with the character.

As with any long running series it has it's ups and downs, but probably worth trying.

Even if the first audio outing is a bit of an odd-ball! :)

But that's soon made up for by Just War.

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hm how many 50th audios are they doing or is it just this one?

IIRC - 3 x monthlies (Sep, Oct, Nov) are nods to the 50th, and 3 x CCs (Oct, Nov, Dec) are connected to the very start of it all.

and umm in what ep or audio thingie has there been a successful time-ram?

not sure if this question was in context of some conversation on here, but my notes tell me there was a successful time-ram in The Vurmery.
well, to be precise they say "solve all your problems with time ramming! XD" so... I guess?

There's a connection etc

Thanks! All good to know. I've listened to some of the Bennnny and Medic audios, although I haven't listened to Love and War. Would that be a good place to start? If I listen to them in order, are there any extraneous ones I need to include for completion, or for important plot points (like fitting the Voyages into the Victorian Gents series after s4), or just for completion (like hearing Living Leggend before Saesons of Faer)?

BWAAAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! That. Is. Pure. Genius.

(Good thing she wasn't described as sh*t-faced...)

Holy Crap - Really??

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FFLAXK6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=14FRGSYXC8GK5E1E1F3G&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=429454147&pf_rd_i=468294

^ lmao

Holy Crap - Really??

The Adventures Of K9: Amazon.co.uk: Music (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FFLAXK6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=14FRGSYXC8GK5E1E1F3G&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=429454147&pf_rd_i=468294)

so me immediately going to check if i can get it locally is wrong? LOL

edit: then i found this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/K9-Stole-Trousers-Bob-Baker/dp/1781961018

then i found this:

K9 Stole My Trousers!: Amazon.co.uk: Bob Baker: Books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/K9-Stole-Trousers-Bob-Baker/dp/1781961018)

Damn, I'm going to have to go out and buy that now!!

There was once a dog, a robot dog - named K9. Ol' K traveled the universe in his magic time machine righting wrongs and having a generally great time while doing it - so long as the floor was even, and the monsters not too fast.

There was once a dog, a robot dog - named K9. Ol' K traveled the universe in his magic time machine righting wrongs and having a generally great time while doing it - so long as the floor was even, and the monsters not too fast.

PMSL

:)

I'm trying to work out where to slip it into my 8th chronology (he's the first Doc to appear, so it's his story. YMMV)



I think it's notable that the Master mentions he hasn't met Nyssa yet. I tend to agree that since it begins and ends with 8 that it's his story but the plot revolves around this villain so...

If you haven't already seen this, have a look - very funny & very catchy (not sure if I'll ever listen to the original without hearing this anymore)...

Yetis Underground - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWOKQr2ofmQ)

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There was once a dog, a robot dog - named K9. Ol' K traveled the universe in his magic time machine righting wrongs and having a generally great time while doing it - so long as the floor was even, and the monsters not too fast.

Yeah, that sums up these books almost perfectly! :D

Thanks! All good to know. I've listened to some of the Bennnny and Medic audios, although I haven't listened to Love and War. Would that be a good place to start? If I listen to them in order, are there any extraneous ones I need to include for completion, or for important plot points (like fitting the Voyages into the Victorian Gents series after s4), or just for completion (like hearing Living Leggend before Saesons of Faer)?

Her universe is pretty self-contained, so any "guest" appearances outside of that (such as CoFriends) can be heard separately.

L&W is as good a place to start as it's her first story anyway, but can be held off if needs be.

S1 - 54 can be heard, really, in any order without spoiling too much.

S5 - S9 are linked, so skipping ahead can result in MAJOR spoilers

S10 - Boxsets have plenty of back-references to major characters up to S10, so spoilers there.

Her universe is pretty self-contained, so any "guest" appearances outside of that (such as CoFriends) can be heard separately.

L&W is as good a place to start as it's her first story anyway, but can be held off if needs be.

S1 - 54 can be heard, really, in any order without spoiling too much.

S5 - S9 are linked, so skipping ahead can result in MAJOR spoilers

S10 - Boxsets have plenty of back-references to major characters up to S10, so spoilers there.

Also, a lot of important things happen in the books in between audios, but you can find plot details of these on-line, so don't let that put you off - the series is very good, and often very funny...

I think it's notable that the Master mentions he hasn't met Nyssa yet. I tend to agree that since it begins and ends with 8 that it's his story but the plot revolves around this villain so...



Interesting you should mention that. With it being the Burnt Master I'd considered making a 4th D story, especially as this is his only multi-D story to date.

Just listen to part 1 of LATE and loved the first 15 minutes as it felt like a decade ago when 8 first started and Charlie wasn't a miserable cow but fun. Wish they could just return to that period and make some more :(

SORRY TO BE A PAIN BUT COULD I REQUEST THE TV SOUNDTRACK TO THE F*A*C*EL*ES*S O*N*ES WITH NARRATION PLEASE. THANKS XXX

The Master jumped his own time track and which was a further black eye for the first law of time. The Doctor face palmed about this infraction in the story.

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Here you go. And it was SUCH a pain I cant tell you...I shall need the surgery to be recovering hey! :P

The Faceless Ones - Download - 4shared - David Banner (http://www.4shared.com/zip/dYJCg7s1/The_Faceless_Ones.html)

Had a glitch uploading, but hopefully its okay. If not. Let me know.






Some people are SO fast! My upload rate is like 30 kb/s.

I hope Foe From the Future is alright - he hasn't been on here since Sep 14! Hope you're alright mate.

Some people are SO fast! My upload rate is like 30 kb/s.

I hope Foe From the Future is alright - he hasn't been on here since Sep 14! Hope you're alright mate.

He got erased from Doctor Who! :(

Imagine if you were the Big Cheese at Bog Furnish at the 50th Anniversary of a show you loved the most. Then imagine you ran a company that made original audio dramas based on the show and, as luck would have it, were surrounded by briliant writers and directors, and the key members of the original cast who were willing to perform in them!

Sounds like a dream come true eh?

Would you...

[a] Get your brilliant writers to pitch story ideas for a spectacular 50th anniversary.
[b] Just bash it out yourself because you know best after all.

Would you then...

[a] Get one of your talented directors with years of experience to take charge of a spectacular 50th anniversary.
[b] Just bash it out yourself because you know best after all.

If your answers are mostly Bs then: You are Knickerless Braggs, and are in charge of Biggus Finnus.
If your answers are mostly As then: You are not Knickerless Braggs, and should be in charge of Biggus Finnus.

Knicker-less loves the Who, and can actually do the Who, almost quite well, when he's not too tired. But on the 50th Anniversary of the show, the show that he loves the most, he's allowed his ego to botch a golden chance. It's clear that he wanted to be more closely aligned with the current "proper" TV series (hence the shoddy Gold-a-like theme tune), but his choice of script writer and director has let him down � badly.

It was an opportunity for Bag Frobish to shine, but, sadly, it didn't.

New balls...

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It too easy to continually slag someone without something constructive to say...

I enjoyed Dark Eyes and I absolutely loved "UNIT: Dominion" – Bug Furnish at its best! Admittedly that was an NB "re-write" of a Jason Arnopp script, but... err... I'm being generous.

I think that Briggles is absolutely the right man to be at the helm – He has the PASSION! – but he's certainly earnt his place on the subs bench when it comes to writing and directing...

Some people are SO fast! My upload rate is like 30 kb/s.

I hope Foe From the Future is alright - he hasn't been on here since Sep 14! Hope you're alright mate.

Thanks xxxx

So DotD 3D was just announced at my local theatre in the US....
..................
/dies

So DotD 3D was just announced at my local theatre in the US....
..................

Tried to buy tickets at my local cinema (Brixton, South London) but the site's crashed...

Anyone have 10's ebook?

Does anyone have the individual covers for the last series from the batty old bird in the bus?

Thanks xxxx

For a second I thought you were saying you were Foe. That would have been a reveal for the ages.

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Hopefully you can get bigger versions from someone, but these will do for now...ish.

1.
2.
3.

They will do me. Thanks.

^ Didn't know Paul Hanley was doing cover work. Good for him! :)

I read an interview with Chris Eccles cake in the Metro newspaper on the bus today, in it he says that he’ll take any job that pays his mortgage; he talks about his role in the upcoming Thor movie and his love of sta rt rek.

Interestingly the interviewer mentions that he was only granted the interview on the sole understanding that he must not ask and Eccles cake would not answer any questions about Medic What, which I thought was very odd, and left me wondering why.

To my mind He (Eccles) didn’t come over that well.

Has anyone else read it? If so I’d like to know what you think about the interview.

To my mind He (Eccles) didn’t come over that well.

Has anyone else read it? If so I’d like to know what you think about the interview.

If you look at recent interviews with him, or really any interviews with him that are taped, he very clearly expresses (either through speech or facial expressions) that he doesn't want to talk about his time as the Medic. For him, it was a job he took that he didn't expect would result in the notoriety it achieved, he also had issues with the production team (if it is to be believed, this was mostly with RTD). In spite of this, the media and fans both never hesitate to ask him about something he very obviously wishes he could forget.

On the one hand, I can totally understand his stance. On the other hand, my fan hand, it bothers me that he doesn't embrace it as openly as those that came before him have done.

However, don't forget TB went through a LONG period (far longer than #9) where he shunned his involvement after what he perceived as shabby treatment on the part of the B.

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Katrinauu glad to see you have finally seen the light and ditched 5 and adopted 6.

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[QUOTE=CelestialTeaBoy;2498289] (hence the shoddy Gold-a-like theme tune) [QUOTE]

I thought the new theme was awful...

...

Eccleston's issue was with the hours of work that BBC top brass were forcing on Cardiff workers. ...

I've also heard he had 'professional issues' with Barrowman, too, who would rather mess-about on set rather than get on with filming.

...what Jon Pertwee as much of an egocentric as was made out...

I used to know people in Ibiza who knew Jon Pertwee from the time he owned a house there.
"Egocentric" is one of the kinder words they had to say about him, sadly.



Having said that, I still think he was a great Doctor.

I've also heard he had 'professional issues' with Barrowman, too, who would rather mess-about on set rather than get on with filming.

Barrowman seems like a complete pain to work with, so I'm sure he contributed to whatever problems he had with the show.

Barrowman seems like a complete pain to work with, so I'm sure he contributed to whatever problems he had with the show.

I used to work with someone who was as 'hyper' as JB and, honestly, there were times I wanted to spike his tea with Valium. Nice bloke but, blimey, you can't take that much energy being thrown around all day.

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I used to know people in Ibiza who knew Jon Pertwee from the time he owned a house there.
"Egocentric" is one of the kinder words they had to say about him, sadly.



Having said that, I still think he was a great Doctor.

I was at a convention and Katy Manning was reminiscing about how much she loved working with Jon. She was telling us how funny it was when he would bend at the knees like a ballerina, evrytime they had to share a shot for a particular scene to work when they were talking to each other.

The guy with the microphone running the event, popped her bubble... "You understand that he only did that because he didn't want you to have a close-up by yourself without him?"

I think her reply was something like "OOoooooo! That kad!"

I met Jon Pertwee twice and on both occasions I was struck by his sheer presence, that is to say he had a very dominating aura about him, I think it is safe to say he also had a sizable ego to match, but I also remember how charming and friendly he was.

I have read that in the later part of his tenure he was more concerned with his looks rather than his dialogue, and that he was incredibly difficult at times. He was personally responsible for the recasting of SJ Smith as he didn’t like April Walker, so that suggests he had a ruthless side to him.

As for the reason Eccles left, I think it was all to do with a conflict of work ethics. Has he worked for the Beeb since he left DW?

Just finished watching "Tommy" on BBC4. I would pay good money (preferably lots of someone elses money, mind you) for Pete Townsend to do a version of the DW theme.

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He's probably too busy...What with that book of his he's been writing...for some time...which he has extensively researched on the internet....

Hmm. I'd forgotten about that ...

He's probably too busy...What with that book of his he's been writing...for some time...which he has extensively researched on the internet....

How long does it take to write a who theme? I'm sure the one for the dark at the beginning only took about 5 minutes by the sound of it ;)

Could I please just check - has Fire At The Finish been posted here in an MP3 version, or is the only version posted the M4B version?
Just checking I haven't overlooked anything.

Thanks.

Could I please just check - has Fire At The Finish been posted here in an MP3 version, or is the only version posted the M4B version?
Just checking I haven't overlooked anything.

Thanks.

Only the M4B version has been posted.

There's an mp4 version at the other place, but that's answering a question you didn't ask.

However an mp4 can easily be stripped down into a high quality mp3, whereas an m4b can't.

....whereas an m4b can't.

Er ... yes it can ... if you've the right software ... a 256m4b will go to a 256mp3 quite easily.

And isn't the mp4 version the 5.1 mix? That would need more work to make a regular mp3 than the m4b would.

Meh.

I didn't like the reduction in quality when I tried.

I didn't like the reduction in quality when I tried.

I've been using AudiobookBuilder (for OSX) for ages and never noticed any issue with loss of quality.

Interesting. :)

Now, think of all the fantastic TV shows killed too early.

:(

So how come I just watched the first episode of season 2 of the Carrie Diaries?

Interesting. :)

Now, think of all the fantastic TV shows killed too early.

:(

So how come I just watched the first episode of season 2 of the Carrie Diaries?

For the same reason there's a new Bridget Jones novel & 50 Shades of Grey movie coming out...

Could I please just check - has Fire At The Finish been posted here in an MP3 version, or is the only version posted the M4B version?
Just checking I haven't overlooked anything.

Thanks.

I use this freeware:-

Free M4a to MP3 Converter - CNET Download.com (http://download.cnet.com/Free-M4a-to-MP3-Converter/3000-2140_4-187723.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=button)

for converting m4b to mp3 - doesn't take long at all.

There's an mp4 version at the other place, but that's answering a question you didn't ask.

However an mp4 can easily be stripped down into a high quality mp3, whereas an m4b can't.
Thank you. I always forget about the other place. Very helpful.


So how come I just watched the first episode of season 2 of the Carrie Diaries?
(At the risk of being intolerably rude to someone who was just very helpful to me...)
I think that question stand by itself, regardless of any discussion of other shows killed too early.

For the same reason there's a new Bridget Jones novel & 50 Shades of Grey movie coming out...You can't blame this on women.

Women have some great programming I really enjoy.

The Carrie Diaries is sponsored by morons.

There's an mp4 version at the other place, but that's answering a question you didn't ask.

However an mp4 can easily be stripped down into a high quality mp3, whereas an m4b can't.

Actually rename the m4b to m4a then you can convert it into an mp3...there are lots of programs (for free) which can do this.

Actually rename the m4b to m4a then you can convert it into an mp3...there are lots of programs (for free) which can do this.

The actual important word there was HIGH QUALITY.

I assumed there was a reduction of quality in the conversion as you reduce the bitrate which you couldn't come back from, but yes I have converted m4b to mp3 before, but the M4b in question had already been through the ringer a couple times and there was some serious replicative fading.

What I should have said, is that you can't make high quality MP3s from an M4b, but you can make shitty quality MP3's from an M4b, but looking back, I still think that is exactly what I said... Which in any case appears not to be the complete truth.

You can't blame this on women.

Women have some great programming I really enjoy.

The Carrie Diaries is sponsored by morons.

I wasn't. I was blaming it on, as you said, morons. And women can be morons too, you know (less likely, but true)...

I read an interview with Chris Eccles cake in the Metro newspaper on the bus today, in it he says that he�ll take any job that pays his mortgage; he talks about his role in the upcoming Thor movie and his love of sta rt rek.

Interestingly the interviewer mentions that he was only granted the interview on the sole understanding that he must not ask and Eccles cake would not answer any questions about Medic What, which I thought was very odd, and left me wondering why.

To my mind He (Eccles) didn�t come over that well.

Has anyone else read it? If so I�d like to know what you think about the interview.

He came across as a bit of a miserable old git to me, however that could be down to the way it was written. Text can be read in different ways and also has a lot to do with how it is written too!

The Master jumped his own time track and which was a further black eye for the first law of time. The Doctor face palmed about this infraction in the story.

I would assume that BF intentionally made the time frame of the story vague so that it could be every medic's story.

As for the reason Eccles left, I think it was all to do with a conflict of work ethics. Has he worked for the Beeb since he left DW?
He played John Lennon in a drama called "Naked" for BBC4 a few years ago

Tried to buy tickets at my local cinema (Brixton, South London) but the site's crashed...

Sold out now - :(

He played John Lennon in a drama called "Naked" for BBC4 a few years ago

Remind me.

Did the BBC make either of the GI Joe movies?

Was trying to get the 5 Disc version from the other placed bay but only seems to download half way sadly at the moment.

The actual important word there was HIGH QUALITY.

I assumed there was a reduction of quality in the conversion as you reduce the bitrate which you couldn't come back from, but yes I have converted m4b to mp3 before, but the M4b in question had already been through the ringer a couple times and there was some serious replicative fading.

What I should have said, is that you can't make high quality MP3s from an M4b, but you can make shitty quality MP3's from an M4b, but looking back, I still think that is exactly what I said... Which in any case appears not to be the complete truth.

Well, yes, what ever the source file format if it's a crummy bit-rate you can't manage to magically make it better quality when converting to another.

But in the context of this thread and the quality of source m4b's normally under discussion it's not really an issue. 256 in, 256 out.

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Remind me.

Did the BBC make either of the GI Joe movies?

Oddly enough, no. They haven't made the recent Thor movie, either, but what's that got to do with it?

And according to IMDB the BBC haven't made quite a lot he's been in over his career.

So I'm not sure what your point is?

Ecclescake was in the first GI Joe.

Funnily enough I'm watching the second GI Joe now - what does that say about me?!!!

Ecclescake was in the first GI Joe.

Yyyyeeesss ... but what's that got to do with GG point that Ecclescake hasn't worked (much) for the BBC since leaving DW?

Genuinly curious, but had he done all that much for the beeb before?

It actually bugs me that CE gets so much stick for not wanting to do DW promo stuff etc. TB didn't do anything for a long time but he consistently gets the favourite classic vote.

We don't own CE, and if he has made the choice not to be involved with DW then that's surely his decision, and not one we have, or should expect, any control over. Perhaps he'll change his mind in the future, just as TB did.

I remember watching the PD ep Five Medics and hearing later that TB didn't want to be involved. Why is that ok but CE not wanting to do a multi-doc ep not?

He did a great job of the medic, and he should get credit for that, but it's not the be all and end all of his life. Nor should it be. Give the guy a break and be glad that he took the role, and hope that one day, whatever problems he had with the show, he'll make the choice to come back and do DW associated stuff again.

Genuinly curious, but had he done all that much for the beeb before?

Probably as much as any actor of a similar nature, I'd say. Probably the last 'big one' he did prior to DW was 'Clocking Off'. Was "Our Friends In The North" a BBC one? Can't remember.

Hi does anyone happen to have the *S*u*m*m*e*r F*a*l*l*s R*e*a*d* B*y C*l*a*r*e C*o*r*b*e*t*t

Thanks

Probably as much as any actor of a similar nature, I'd say. Probably the last 'big one' he did prior to DW was 'Clocking Off'. Was "Our Friends In The North" a BBC one? Can't remember.

He does a fair amount for iTV. He also recently(ish) was in "The Borrowers", which was for the B.

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Sold out now - :(

I got a ticket, but then I realized it is only playing on the 25th and that by then I will have seen it on the 23rd :/

anyone happen to have light at the end? Yet :) Thanks

Is it me, or is Wi*ll Arr*owsmi*th really annoying in the last few LC shows?

Can't help but feel he's ruining some good stories....

He sounds like an archetypical Poindexter in the show, but behind the scenes not so much.

It's called acting.

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Is it me, or is Wi*ll Arr*owsmi*th really annoying in the last few LC shows?

Can't help but feel he's ruining some good stories....

Didn't like him at first, but he grew on me. Made a change to have the dynamic where he was, effectively, the damsel in distress character.

I'll agree that his second story may not have helped him, but I mainly put that down to being paired up with an alien character that used phrases like "totes amazeballs".

With only three stories under his belt it's perhaps too early to write him off yet. Hex took a few stories for his character go get going. (Now there's a good character let down by a terrible actor, IMHO)

Hex
I enjoyed Hex from the getgo, mostly because I enjoyed his moms story a *lot*.

I got my 4th Doctor Sonic Screwdriver!!!!!!! :D

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...Now what to do with the money I have left: try to get tickets for 24hrs of the Medic, use it to go watch it at the TARDIS Room, or waste on nothing of value whatsoever and just watch 24hrs of the Medic at my friends house and suffer through them pausing it and wasting time on half-hour intervles?

I enjoyed Hex from the getgo, mostly because I enjoyed his moms story a *lot*.

The CHARACTER I completely agree.

His actor ... not so much ...

It looks like he could model bathing suits if he wanted to.

Philip Olivier - Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Olivier)

I listened to his entrance episode the other night.

His "Oh my god, oh my god" chorus upon entering the TARDIS was adorable.

It looks like he could model bathing suits if he wanted to.

Philip Olivier - Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Olivier)

I listened to his entrance episode the other night.

His "Oh my god, oh my god" chorus upon entering the TARDIS was adorable.

I've always thought that the voice that comes out of his head is pretty shocking given his appearance.
And then I saw Christian Edwards.

Was trying to get the 5 Disc version from the other placed bay but only seems to download half way sadly at the moment.

Luminance at the conclusion?

Is anyone else having a similar problem?

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So I'm not sure what your point is?

GI Joe was fucking awful.

GI Joe was fucking awful.

But what does that have to do with whether the beeb made the movies or not?

Chris left Doctor who and then costarred in GI Joe as Destro after he claimed to never want to return to the BBC.

I just thought I would make absolutely positive that GI Joe wasn't made by the BBC to check if Eccleston was keeping to his word.

Chris left Doctor who and then costarred in GI Joe as Destro after he claimed to never want to return to the BBC.

I just thought I would make absolutely positive that GI Joe wasn't made by the BBC to check if Eccleston was keeping to his word.

Quick check on Wiki and it looks like most of his work since then has been for the beeb. Shadowline, Accused, Top Gear (among others). Not sure why you would think that the beeb would be behind a so-called big budget movie like GI Joe. Generally speaking, if the beeb commission a show or movie it tends to get shown on then beeb and not at the cinema.

Chris left Doctor who and then costarred in GI Joe as Destro after he claimed to never want to return to the BBC.

I just thought I would make absolutely positive that GI Joe wasn't made by the BBC to check if Eccleston was keeping to his word.

Seriously? I really don't understand what point you are trying to make. So what if he has worked for the BBC since? Perhaps it was a particular person that he had a problem with and that person is no longer there, or isn't associated with the work he is doing. Perhaps it was a particular incident or incidents and that problem has been resolved?

Or perhaps he has the right to change his mind?

Every time you've watched GI Joe The Rise of Cobra, doesn't it just scream Bangers and Mash?

Chris left Doctor who and then costarred in GI Joe as Destro after he claimed to never want to return to the BBC.

I just thought I would make absolutely positive that GI Joe wasn't made by the BBC to check if Eccleston was keeping to his word.

He never said such a thing

Or perhaps he has the right to change his mind?

Ignore me - I'm arguing in circles. Need coffee.

Every time you've watched GI Joe The Rise of Cobra, doesn't it just scream Bangers and Mash?

The food? No. Not really.

The podcast by Pappys? No. Not really.

Don't even make me think of Bangers as a euphemism for female mammalian protuberances.

According to Fandango says tickets are the 25th of Nov in Oregon? Wtf?

Ignore me - I'm arguing in circles. Need coffee.

sorry andy - i was replying to guy

Every time you've watched GI Joe The Rise of Cobra, doesn't it just scream Bangers and Mash?

In what way?

Sure he didn't say it, but right before I said what I said, Tomoph asked if Christopher had worked for the BBC since leaving Doctor Who.... And that's when y'all started taking me far too seriously.

You guys never cease to amaze me with your generosity.
goldie2012 in particular, thankyou from the bottom of my heart. ♥

And that's when y'all started taking me far too seriously.

Not really. I think we were just curious where the whole GI Joe thing came from.

And at the end of the day, you can't really blame Eccles. Every other actor who has played the medic will, seemingly, only be remembered for that one part. I think Eccles wants to be remembered for more than playing him.

It looks like he could model bathing suits if he wanted to.

Philip Olivier - Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Olivier)

He'll always be "Tinhead" offa Brookie to me...

Luminance at the conclusion?

Is anyone else having a similar problem?[COLOR="Silver"]

Is the five disc version available? If so, could someone link me in the right direction? Many many thanks.

Ive read other interviews with different papers .
Basically its a 15 minute slot to promote Thor movie so its only fair that other topics are out of bounds so to speak.
What did make me smile was his lack of enthusiasm in promoting the new Thor movie and his flat denial from the film studio rep that he was ever a comic fan.
I do admire his integrity stroppy or not :)

I read an interview with Chris Eccles cake in the Metro newspaper on the bus today, in it he says that he’ll take any job that pays his mortgage; he talks about his role in the upcoming Thor movie and his love of sta rt rek.

Interestingly the interviewer mentions that he was only granted the interview on the sole understanding that he must not ask and Eccles cake would not answer any questions about Medic What, which I thought was very odd, and left me wondering why.

To my mind He (Eccles) didn’t come over that well.

Has anyone else read it? If so I’d like to know what you think about the interview.

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Sure he didn't say it, but right before I said what I said, Tomoph asked if Christopher had worked for the BBC since leaving Doctor Who.... And that's when y'all started taking me far too seriously.

Still don't get the bangers and mash reference Guy! Could you help a poor confused soul by explaining :)

I love the first line of the interview. The man just does not give a toss!

Thor?s Christopher Eccleston: I was never a big fan of comics | Metro News (http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/25/thors-christopher-eccleston-i-was-never-a-big-fan-of-comics-2-4159699/)

Eccleston has always been a serious guy, but has always been respectful and polite to those he works with. Even when he left Cracker, he gave his reasons that he wasnt getting the meaty drama and the "brilliant" Robbie Coltrane was deservedly getting the spotlight. When he told producers he wouldnt be back for Series 2, Jimmy McGovern rang him up to convince him to come back for one more story which he did.

I think he has relaxed a lot more now than he used to be...the very fact he took on Thor and formerly "Claude" in Heroes shows that.
I've recently come to the conclusion that Eccleston is Britain's equivalent to Harrison Ford. Both are very good actors who are very blue-collar in their approach to it. But given the right material, they'll both give it their all and really go for broke on it. Not to mention that they're both very private men who seldom give interviews, but when they do, they're very down-to-earth, reserved, and fiercely intelligent.

I've recently come to the conclusion that Eccleston is Britain's equivalent to Harrison Ford. Both are very good actors who are very blue-collar in their approach to it. But given the right material, they'll both give it their all and really go for broke on it. Not to mention that they're both very private men who seldom give interviews, but when they do, they're very down-to-earth, reserved, and fiercely intelligent.

I enjoyed CE as the Medic, but at least 30% of his performances are piss-poor. The scene with Rose and the Darlek ("Oh, Rose, I couldn't, I wouldn't..." - or however the dialogue went) is bloody terrible.

There's an mp4 version at the other place

Can I be na�ve enough to ask what "the other place" is and whether anyone is allowed to point me in the right direction? Even by PM? Thanks :)

Seriously? I really don't understand what point you are trying to make. So what if he has worked for the BBC since? Perhaps it was a particular person that he had a problem with and that person is no longer there, or isn't associated with the work he is doing. Perhaps it was a particular incident or incidents and that problem has been resolved?

Or perhaps he has the right to change his mind?

According to wiki, he has stated that he didn't like the conditions that the crew were forced to work under. This is fairly vague where multi-faceted projects like the Medic are concerned - it could have been the higher-ups, it could have been the writers, it could have been the production team itself, it could have been an overbearing member of the cast. Really, it doesn't matter. He left because he was unhappy.

Recent video interviews show that when he is approached about it, he doesn't want to talk about it. He gets snarky, his facial expression freezes. He isn't interested in discussing it at all. As fans, that is all we really need to know about his time on the show until he is more willing to discuss it.
So, as evilmonk says, he has the right to change his mind. This relates to all aspects of his life and career.

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GI Joe is the most American thing in the universe, (Yes, I know about Action Force) and those movies are horrible and gratingly American in the least flattering way imaginable... I assumed to suggest that they were in some way not American might be comical.

Although I'm just realising that they had an actor who formerly played the Master as the President in both movies.

I wonder how miffed Chris would have been when he was told that the Baroness, Sienna Miller was supposed to be his character's girlfriend and that GI Joe lore was turned upside down to steal her away from him. :(

I wonder how miffed Chris would have been when he was told that the Baroness, Sienna Miller was supposed to be his character's girlfriend and that GI Joe lore was turned upside down to steal her away from him. :(

I doubt he'd have given a toss.

GI Joe is the most American thing in the universe, (Yes, I know about Action Force) and those movies are horrible and gratingly American in the least flattering way imaginable... I assumed to suggest that they were in some way not American might be comical.



Still not getting the bangers and mash thing unless that's your assumed suggestion of not being American?

GI Joe is the most American thing in the universe, (Yes, I know about Action Force) and those movies are horrible and gratingly American in the least flattering way imaginable... I assumed to suggest that they were in some way not American might be comical.

Although I'm just realising that they had an actor who formerly played the Master as the President in both movies.

I wonder how miffed Chris would have been when he was told that the Baroness, Sienna Miller was supposed to be his character's girlfriend and that GI Joe lore was turned upside down to steal her away from him. :(

I've never seen them, but I was a fan of the old cartoon. Come to think of it, that is probably why I have never seen the movies.

Still not getting the bangers and mash thing unless that's your assumed suggestion of not being American?

Yes!

Good lord yes!

The idea that the BBC made GI Joe is ludicrous.

The idea that "bangers and mash" is the first thought in your head when watching GI Joe is also ludicrous, because the movie is in almost every conceivable way not British.

Really, at this point, I think that you're all just ganging up on me because I'm so pretty.

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I've never seen them, but I was a fan of the old cartoon. Come to think of it, that is probably why I have never seen the movies.

To clarify Jonathan Price played the Master in the Curse of the Fatal Deaths, as well as the president in both GI Joe movies with a stodgy southern accent, but that's neither here nor there.

Yes!

Good lord yes!

The idea that the BBC made GI Joe is ludicrous.

The idea that "bangers and mash" is the first thought in your head when watching GI Joe is also ludicrous, because the movie is in almost every conceivable way not British.

Really, at this point, I think that you're all just ganging up on me because I'm so pretty.

Well your initial comment of ...


Every time you've watched GI Joe The Rise of Cobra, doesn't it just scream Bangers and Mash?

... did come across that you were making a positive connection between them.

I hadn't broken character at that point.

but the correct answer to "Every time you've watched GI Joe The Rise of Cobra, doesn't it just scream Bangers and Mash?" is "No, good lord no, no fucking way, no, no, no, fuck you, no."

If the movie is so non-British then why would anyone's first thought be bangers and mash, if you equate bangers and mash with being British that is?

This whole conversation really has me scratching my head in serious confusion and wondering what I need to be smoking for it to make any sense.

I hadn't broken character at that point.

but the correct answer to "Every time you've watched GI Joe The Rise of Cobra, doesn't it just scream Bangers and Mash?" is "No, good lord no, no fucking way, no, no, no, fuck you, no."

I'm not sure I'm any the wiser. I feel the conversation took a bit of a left turn at the lights and we're now in a scary part of town. Also I haven't seen GI Joe so this may be holding me back :)

This is how I thought it would go...

"Has Chris worked for the BBC since he left Who?"

"Was GI Joe made by the BBC?"

"No, of course not, don't be a fucking idiot."

The end.

This is how I though it would go...

"Has Chris worked for the BBC since he left Who?"

"Was GI Joe made by the BBC?"

"No, of course not, don't be a fucking idiot."

The end.

Ok, now I really don't follow. CE has done a number of things since Who, some with the BBC and some not. So GI Joe not being a BBC production is not the end of the discussion. He clearly has no problem working with the BBC as the briefest of glances at IMDb will confirm.

This is how I though it would go...

"Has Chris worked for the BBC since he left Who?"

"Was GI Joe made by the BBC?"

"No, of course not, don't be a fucking idiot."

The end.

It may well have ended there if we'd had some kind of idea where you were headed with your train of thought.

Ok, now I really don't follow. CE has done a number of things since Who, some with the BBC and some not. So GI Joe not being a BBC production is not the end of the discussion. He clearly has no problem working with the BBC as the briefest of glances at IMDb will confirm.

And it's not like GI Joe was the first thing he de post-Who, so that didn't help. Wasn't Heroes before that?

I think, well I know, what guy is trying to say is that GI JOE is in no way English in any way shape or form! The whole bangers and mash thing was a sarcastic comment, as bangers and mash, by many are considered to be totally English, which GI JOE is the is not!
I don't know why many didn't get that, but I have sure had fun reading the confusion and bewilderment of many at this, but then I am just an evil and twisted soul! lol
And andy...."It may well have ended there if we'd had some kind of idea where you were headed with your train of thought" - this is guy we are talking about.... its like skutter after far too many drinks, but ALL the time!!! no bugger ever has a chance of knowing his train of thought.....just go with the flow...its a magical mystery tour without the drugs!

And it's not like GI Joe was the first thing he de post-Who, so that didn't help. Wasn't Heroes before that?

Not sure but a quick count on IMDb shows he has appeared in (I believe) 5 productions aired on the BBC since Who, both series and a TV movie. He obviously has no problem having his name attached to BBC programmes.

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I think, well I know, what guy is trying to say is that GI JOE is in no way English in any way shape or form! The whole bangers and mash thing was a sarcastic comment, as bangers and mash, by many are considered to be totally English, which GI JOE is the is not!
I don't know why many didn't get that

I get it but it seems a complete non sequitur.

EDIT: I just read the whole sequence of posts back and forth again and it still doesn't make sense in the context of the previous posts.

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Oh Christ, here comes Jawa. Better prepare for the shitstorm that usually accompanies his posts. :D

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I too thought it was obvious. The 2 pages worth of "But...but...but Guy what do you mean? Explain yourself..." was baffling...I thought I had missed a row somewhere and decided to keep my head down till it blew over!

It was, I was just bored. Sorry Guy....

[QUOTE=andyb2011;2500391]Oh Christ, here comes Jawa. Better prepare for the shitstorm that usually accompanies his posts. :D[COLOR="Silver"]

It would be funny if it wasn't so bloody true! LOL

I knew I blinked too soon.

According to wiki, he has stated that he didn't like the conditions that the crew were forced to work under. This is fairly vague where multi-faceted projects like the Medic are concerned - it could have been the higher-ups, it could have been the writers, it could have been the production team itself, it could have been an overbearing member of the cast. Really, it doesn't matter. He left because he was unhappy.

Recent video interviews show that when he is approached about it, he doesn't want to talk about it. He gets snarky, his facial expression freezes. He isn't interested in discussing it at all. As fans, that is all we really need to know about his time on the show until he is more willing to discuss it.
So, as evilmonk says, he has the right to change his mind. This relates to all aspects of his life and career.

'the crew' is most likely just 'the crew', not the cast (he didn't mentionthe cast or the actors had rough time), writers, directors or anything else. The interviews of that time give enough information that it was very hard work (the second series was less). And because the pressure always comes from the top, and he worked with RTD before with a lot of pleasure, I'm affraid that, as exec.producer, Phil Collinson was the problem in that time...

I knew I blinked too soon.

Don't blink...

Doctor Who Confidential seemed to depict everything was not only fine, but they all became stars of their own TV show, and the camera followed the boom operators and production assistants around like they were glitteratti.

They mentioned Doctor Who on Castle last week as the series skipped the genre tracks admitting that Time Travel existed and was real.

But then Torchwood and Law and Order are in the same Universe too, so who am I to marvel?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/203/660/crossovers(full).jpg?1321898560

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/203/660/crossovers(full).jpg?1321898560

What the zarking fardwarks is that meant to be? Please don't tell me it's a some "if an actor played a character in Thing A they must be the same character in Thing B" fanwanks, is it?

Oh i actually sort of get that - it's like a six degrees of kevin bacon thing, isn't it?

I hope...

oh and someone with far too much time on their hands

I too thought it was obvious. The 2 pages worth of "But...but...but Guy what do you mean? Explain yourself..." was baffling...I thought I had missed a row somewhere and decided to keep my head down till it blew over!

We will have the usual "sensitives" coming on the forum next saying "Boys and girls, I really like this forum and all the love people show to each other, so can we lay of Guy's Bangers...There his bangers and he wants to mash them, that's his business"...

PS Apologies. I have had half a bottle of wine and the above may come across a narky, cynical and bitchy...because it is...

just another case of 'lost in translation', really. Let's move on... :)

Oh i actually sort of get that - it's like a six degrees of kevin bacon thing, isn't it?

I hope...

oh and someone with far too much time on their hands

Could be - but being called "Crossovers" implies characters, doesn't it?

It would be funny if it wasn't so bloody true! LOL

And just WHAT exactly are you implying with this typically snotty and self-regarding "post" jawamaster? HUH??? HOW DARE YOU!!!! You can just take your [Expletive Deleted] sense of entitlement and shove it up your [Expletive Deleted] with a Peter Davison action figure's [Expletive Deleted] [Expletive Deleted]ing all over your [Expletive Deleted] Christopher Eccleston-style [Expletive Deleted] Bangers and [Expletive Deleted] until GI [Expletive Deleted] [Expletive Deleted]s all over [Expletive Deleted] iTunes and so-called 'missing episodes' until you [Expletive Deleted][Expletive Deleted][Expletive Deleted][Expletive Deleted]with a MELON!!!!

So there.

:D

(sorry, couldn't resist...)

Could be - but being called "Crossovers" implies characters, doesn't it?

Well I know that Detective Munch from Homicide was in The X Files so that ties those together which means that The X Files is in the same universe as Law And Order (since Munch moved onto one of those shows). Quite a lot of genre TV should be called Six Degrees Of John Munch

.. with a MELON!!!!...

A melon? That's harsh, dude. That's harsh.

Doctor Who Confidential seemed to depict everything was not only fine, but they all became stars of their own TV show, and the camera followed the boom operators and production assistants around like they were glitteratti.

They mentioned Doctor Who on Castle last week as the series skipped the genre tracks admitting that Time Travel existed and was real.

But then Torchwood and Law and Order are in the same Universe too, so who am I to marvel?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/203/660/crossovers(full).jpg?1321898560


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The argument for Doctor Who being part of the Westphall universe is Sexy is docked in the hanger in one scene in Red Dwarf...

That cross over list is about character crossovers.

I was warned that sometimes those links were created from exposition where one character talks about a friend or cousin or someone he went to school with... You know like how Quatermass got slipped into Remembrance of the Daleks slylike, but Superman was on I love Lucy as Superman with all his usual superpowers and there have been lots of other weird things like that too.

The root of the list is Saint Elsewheres (And that jpg is several years old and hasn't been updated recently) and how every show on that list is inside a snow globe created by a magic autistic kid.

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The argument for Doctor Who being part of the Westphall universe is Sexy is docked in the hanger in one scene in Red Dwarf...


That cross over list is about character crossovers.

I was warned that sometimes those links were created from exposition where one character talks about a friend or cousin or someone he went to school with... You know like how Quatermass got slipped into Remembrance of the Daleks slylike, but Superman was on I love Lucy as Superman with all his usual superpowers and there have been lots of other weird things like that too.

The root of the list is Saint Elsewheres (And that jpg is several years old and hasn't been updated recently) and how every show on that list is inside a snow globe created by a magic autistic kid.

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Oh, good grief ...

I mean, I can sort-a-kind-a admire the mental gymnastics and leaps of faith behind such a venture ... until you realise it's that sort of thing that gives 'fandom' a bad bad name.

Hay Ho.

On a completely unrelated note ... never been a fan of Gaiman - I find him a one-note hack - and I've never warmed to him when I've seen him interviewed. But this recent tweet from M. Benn that's obviously meant to make him sound good, makes me think "Urgh! Sounds like a bit of a creep ..."


.@"NGs Twitter" superpower is to be your best pal the first time you meet. It even worked on Lou Reed.

Sorry, but if someone's trying to be my "best pal" the first time we meet, I'll be checking where my wallet is and making sure I'm not accidentally signing up for some bizarre cult that involves time-shares.

For those looking for mp3 multiparts of the SE of Luminescence at the underground passage's end, look to my post at the Other Place.

Has anyone been able to find the individual covers?

Speaking of crossovers, wouldn't it be completely ridiculous (and kind of cool in a nerdy fan wank way) if the John Hurt Doctor turned out to be a future Peter Cushing Doctor? A multi-doctor, multi-dimensional story for the 50th......

Speaking of crossovers, wouldn't it be completely ridiculous (and kind of cool in a nerdy fan wank way) if the John Hurt Doctor turned out to be a future Peter Cushing Doctor? A multi-doctor, multi-dimensional story for the 50th......


:) I think I'll pass on that idea!

Can't remember where I read it, but the best 'explanation' for The Human Doctor Who was that I&B wrote a screenplay about their adventures and changed a few details to protect the The Timelord known as The Doctor ...

Latest Medic ebook: The Hystery of the Caunted Mottage (what as fiendishly clever code I've used!!).

RWQ

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Epub version only, but I'm sure most of you can convert it if you need to, right? Right?? Right!

Speaking of crossovers, wouldn't it be completely ridiculous (and kind of cool in a nerdy fan wank way) if the John Hurt Doctor turned out to be a future Peter Cushing Doctor? A multi-doctor, multi-dimensional story for the 50th......

I'm still hoping the Moff somehow spins the Mighty Intellect invading the Medic's timeline as a way to bring Dickey Grants into canon as the (impostor, implanted) Shalkkuh Medic

I too thought it was obvious. The 2 pages worth of "But...but...but Guy what do you mean? Explain yourself..." was baffling...I thought I had missed a row somewhere and decided to keep my head down till it blew over!

We will have the usual "sensitives" coming on the forum next saying "Boys and girls, I really like this forum and all the love people show to each other, so can we lay of Guy's Bangers...There his bangers and he wants to mash them, that's his business"...

PS Apologies. I have had half a bottle of wine and the above may come across a narky, cynical and bitchy...because it is...

C'mon everyone, can't we just all love each other and get along? Stuff that, where's the other half of that bottle of wine?

No need to aplogise, that was bloody funny!

As I arrived to the internet party pretty late I've only been acquiring the audios over the last two years. Now I've got things sorted out, a bit, I'm finally getting around to having a serious listen, rather than one here and there. I've been listening to about 40 stories over the last two weeks or so, in a vain effort to try and catch up - I'll get there one day...one day...

It seem this is the ONLY forum that seems to have panned TLATE.
Must be because this seems to be a forum that has a very blatent anti-NBRIGGs faction.
It one of the reasons i am only a lurker here.

It seem this is the ONLY forum that seems to have panned TLATE.
Must be because this seems to be a forum that has a very blatent anti-NBRIGGs faction.
It one of the reasons i am only a lurker here.

I didn't mind it. Love hearing all those voices from the past in it.
NB can write good stories but, as has been said before, doesn't mean he should write it. Some of us seem to be of the opinion that maybe another writer could have done better. Ego can sometimes get in the way of things. He can always give other people a chance but it seems it's "Well, no-one else can do this but me"!

He should be a bit more of a sharer, also he doesn't have to do every alien voice too. Is anyone else aloud to be a Kaled voice? NO!

He's good at what he does, he can write good stuff, but there's a limit. That's all. I don't think people on here are anti NB. I think people are quite balanced.

Good to hear from you anyway. Please don't lurk. It's good to hear opinions.

It seem this is the ONLY forum that seems to have panned TLATE.
Must be because this seems to be a forum that has a very blatent anti-NBRIGGs faction.
It one of the reasons i am only a lurker here.

It isn't a bad story.

However, simply adoring a story because it is a 50th anniv. event and because it features all the surviving classic medics is NOT showing "those mean old fans" that you love the series and they are just old curmudgeons - it is being blindly adoring of the entirety of the Medic franchise.

Again, this is not wrong. Nor is it wrong for people on this forum to not like it. There are many good points to the story that pretty much everyone here has stated their love for; the interaction of the medics and the companions, the recognition that there is a good story in it, albeit it is too abridged to really blossom into its own. These are simply opinions, not unlike those of the people that purely enjoyed it with little to no complaints.

But it is clear in the interviews in the extras that is exactly what he didn't do.
He said he didn't want to do it. They had another writer that was tapped and couldn't pull it together while he worked on something else and then he was persuaded to write it. The opinions [and even yours] is based on a false premise. He isn't going around saying mine mine mine.

You wrote: Ego can sometimes get in the way of things. He can always give other people a chance but it seems it's "Well, no-one else can do this but me"!

But that isn't what happened at all in fact in previous podcasts he said he didn't think he could do it justice, and that someone else had been tapped. This is ego at at -- it is however you placing a false blame on NBRIGS for doing something he didn't do just because it seems in fashion to paint him in the light on this forum. Not the first time i have seen it and listening to the podcasts his comments are the exact opposite than what is posted here of in video interviews elsewhere. This forum i have been lucking since page 2 and it is clearly anti NBRIGGS --you may think it is balanced but frankly you are wrong and i can post dozens of time that people rag on him for ranges and stories he has nothing to do with. This forum is about as fair and balanced as Fox news when it comes to NB.
Back to lurking.

TLATE was pure fun, wonderful moments and wonderful lines and portrayals. Overall, one of the best "group" stories the show ever had, a nice little celebration having a little bit of everything and everyone.

He should be a bit more of a sharer, also he doesn't have to do every alien voice too. Is anyone else aloud to be a Kaled voice? NO!He's good at what he does, he can write good stuff, but there's a limit. That's all. I don't think people on here are anti NB. I think people are quite balanced.

There is a point during the interview disc where he says he had an entirely different plot developed for the 50th anniv story when he was approached about the multi-medic story (I think we know what his would have involved) and that he just didn't want to write the first part of the story - so that is all down to those other than Mr. Pepperpot.


**Edit**
Stop sneaking into my pc and stealing my post!!

Then you are reviewing what it isn't - not what it is.

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There is a point during the interview disc where he says he had an entirely different plot developed for the 50th anniv story when he was approached about the multi-medic story (I think we know what his would have involved) and that he just didn't want to write the first part of the story - so that is all down to those other than Mr. Pepperpot.

See a veiled dig at NB . Balanced. Nope

Then you are reviewing what it isn't - not what it is.

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See a veiled dig at NB . Balanced. Nope

There is a difference between a dig and simply being snarky.

It seem this is the ONLY forum that seems to have panned TLATE.
Must be because this seems to be a forum that has a very blatent anti-NBRIGGs faction.
It one of the reasons i am only a lurker here.

i haven't panned it. I don't pan anything unless i've listened to it a couple of times at least...well mostly. I have found a couple of their audios I just couldn't finish but still most are great.

But i think you might find that a lot of forums jump down the throat of anyone who dares to not like something who, whether it's a book, the show or an audio. This site allows difference of opinion without the person getting attacked by others, so you will find people feel able to state their opinion. That's a good thing. Nothing gets only positive reviews, and expecting that is not realistic.

If you like it, say it. Your opinion is just as respected as that of anyone else who comes here. The only thing that really gets jumped on here is personal attacks on other members. They are few and far between, fortunately. I can't say the same for other forums that won't allow negative opinions.

Personally, from one listen, interrupted by kids and, well, life, I liked it. I'm looking forward to having time for another listen, but I can't see myself liking it any less.

We don't bite. Well, most of us don't ;)

Speak up. Your opinion is as important as anyone elses.

And I'm not anti-briggs. I'm not pro-briggs. I just enjoy (most) of the audios :)

I'm not anti-Briggs. I AM, however, anti-blind worship. If there are things I don't like, I'll say so, and so do the others here. Your opinion is as valid as ours. Please don't paint us as something we're not.

We are CRITICAL, not ANTI. There is a huge difference. If Mr B does something well, we will all say so, if we don't like it - we're not gonna lie.

I think a lot of us feel he takes on too much work, and should share the load a bit more - if for no other reason than to ensure the quality of his (& others) work doesn't suffer. This is a little different from saying he has a massive big head and wants to rule the (Who) world. Sometimes we make sarky little comments, sure - who doesn't - but for my part, and I'm assuming most others, they are usually mostly tongue in cheek. I'm sorry if you don't see that...

I'm not speaking for everyone here - I don't have the right to do so - and some of us probably aren't NB fans. But I think the majority of us enjoy his work for the most part, but think he's in danger of working himself thin (& not just him - other, mostly great, writers like J Morris, are on the verge of over-use).

This is NOT an Anti-Briggs thread - it really isn't. If we didn't like the stuff, why would we listen to it?? And we're all thankful to him to helping keep the original series flame alive so well.

But we DO have our own opinions, and have every right to express them, ever if we sometimes go a little OTT. We're hardly alone there. At least we don't jump down the throats of people who disagree with us, and that includes you. I do hope we'll hear from you again - we welcome all comers... :)

Thanks for your thoughts.

Like I said - I'm back to lurking, but coming from another forum this place is known for being ANTI NB and that is pretty much part of the reason why you have an insular clique that many people don't feel comfortable contributing to. Because no matter what the release, it always seems to time of the month to BriggPile on Nick.
Sorry no matter how much you deny there are pages and pages of anti NB rhetoric that is anti NB even when he has nothing to do with what you are complaining about. [you can deny it all you want and paint it in a different light but there are hundreds of pages that paint a very different picture]
Other forums see it, we may not talk to you but we see you.
That is part of the answer why you see people grabbing a share but not saying anything.
Funny how there is more praise that goes on here for the person that does the share than the people that put the effort into making the product. i.e. Let's build a statue for the person that shared it,but stone the person that wrote it.

Huh? Maybe I'm missing something?

I love most of the audios, even NB's ones. As has been said above. We're not blind to love everything and call it as we see a story. LC do a bloody great job, we all know that.

Please read the above posts again. People put a lot of effort into expressing things - I think they did a better job than myself (I'm dyslexic and find it hard at times to put things properly), and we all want the good stuff to continue from LC. As has been said above - the talent needs to be shared around. That includes voice actors, story writers, sound design etc, so that a quality product can continue.

I did listen to the extras disc. Just because he didn't want to write it doesn't mean he couldn't have said "Such and such can write this" while I produce. Hell, give a talented fan a chance to write (after all that is what NB and most of the LC writers are). Please see beyond what you see as criticism - read the above posts again.

Like I said - I'm back to lurking, but coming from another forum this place is known for being ANTI NB and that is pretty much part of the reason why you have an insular clique that many people don't feel comfortable contributing to. Because no matter what the release, it always seems to time of the month to BriggPile on Nick.
Sorry no matter how much you deny there are pages and pages of anti NB rhetoric that is anti NB even when he has nothing to do with what you are complaining about. [you can deny it all you want and paint it in a different light but there are hundreds of pages that paint a very different picture]
Other forums see it, we may not talk to you but we see you.
That is part of the answer why you see people grabbing a share but not saying anything.
Funny how there is more praise that goes on here for the person that does the share than the people that put the effort into making the product. i.e. Let's build a statue for the person that shared it,but stone the person that wrote it.

So you came out of lurking (after 15 days membership) to criticise the people who post in here? Ok. But you see, that's exactly the reason why many of us don't go to the forums you are talking about, or never post there. Because saying anything negative is jumped on.

I'm a member of at least one of those forums you are talking about, and I have never posted. The first day i joined I saw a horrible attack on someone who had the cheek to say they didn't like a particular just aired episode of who. I agreed with them but there is no way I was going to post on there, witnessing that attack was more than enough to put me off.

Given a choice of a forum where we are allowed opinions, and others where we are only allowed positive opinions, I'll stay here thanks. And my opinion, the vast majority of the time, is positive. Don't make the other forums out to be somehow superior because they are only positive. They are only positive because the ones who don't like what they have seen or watched or read come to sites like this where they are allowed to speak.

Differences of opinion are a good thing.

I might add, i'm a member of seven different who-related forums. I've seen what the other forums are like. I only post on three of them. All of those allow different opinions.

Again sounds more like some weird form of Jealousy. He did exactly what you said and expressed so in interviews and the podcasts, the story wasn't working and he was persuaded to write it by David Richardson and Haige-Ellergy with some input from Russsel. He NEVER went me first me first me first. In fact this is very similar to THE 5Docs where BobHolmes was asked to do it and it ended up a mess so Dicks who turned it down once came back to re-work it.
I get the feeling all you want NB to do is sit on the sidelines. And this is the worst forum for the blatant NEGATIVITY toward the people that run BF no matter what it it. Even a server overloading [and put back up in 6 hours] gets flack from you guys.
I never see anything said about Alan Barnes David Richardson and they much larger control of what happens with the stories currently

You really need to read more posts. We are not anti-BF at all. We do, however, reserve the right to speak when something goes wrong. Whether that's a server overload (and people on their own forum weren't happy about it either), or they screw up a story or range or we don't like the picture they've used.
No business will ever survive if they never know what they are doing wrong. If they hear that a particular range isn't selling well because of...whatever....then that gives them a chance to fix that problem and get the range back on track.

We review what we listen to. Some reviews are positive, some are negative. That's the real world. Books get bad reviews, movies get bad reviews, businesses get bad reviews. It's not the end of the world, it's an opportunity to listen and get it right next time.

I will agree with you on one thing. There should be far more praise for the creator then the uploader. If people are happy with an upload, they only need to click like for the person to know. And i will never build a statue to anyone ;)
But as for praise for the creator - sometimes they get it wrong. We are human, we all have different opinions and we all like different things. Some of us will love what we are listening to, some of us will hate it, and the majority will say, oh well that was interesting, what's next?

We are not going to stop speaking out, negative or positive, because other forums don't like the freedom we have here.

:)

What evilmonk said.

Sorry you disagree, KawCMH, but if you're that critical of our discussion, then I really don't know why you're here.

Oh, and pretty much all forums are clique-y. That's the internet for you...

And BTW I actually LIKED TLATE. It wasn't a classic, but it was very enjoyable.

Anyway, I've said my piece, and listened to yours. I'll agree to disagree with you and move on...

BF isn't a perfect company - they do make mistakes and given the fact that people can generally post negative comments without getting jumped on probably skews the point of view of the negativity thing. Yes we can be critical at times, but I've yet to see a post that everyone agrees with - there will usually be at least some discussion.

Like evilmonk, I frequent a few forums (most not who-related) and there are only a couple where you can discuss things freely. I've seen simple questions lead to arguments that have lasted months on a couple of them.

I agree that there is a lot of negativity towards Briggs, but I don't subscribe to it. Without knowing more about the set up at BF and the beeb regarding WHO, I prefer to think that with Briggs it's the work ethic and not his ego that leads to him wearing so many hats. I don't think we've panned LATE either. There have been comments from both camps and personally I liked it (apart from the theme music), but would have to listen to it properly to get the most out of it.

I haven't listened to all the audios, under 50 at the moment, but I have liked most of what I hear. Several of those from NB. How is that hate for the man?

I didn't have a go at the servers going down - it was fine for me when I downloaded. It seems that maybe, learning from things that have happened in the past (of servers going down/ overloading) that they would have addressed the situation, using past experience. They would have known that the 50th story was going to be popular and planned accordingly. That is all people have said.

No, we don't just want NB to sit on the side-lines. I'm impressed at what they've achieved at LC. Again, read the above posts - we don't want him to spread himself thin, which can affect quality, especially when they pump out so much. I don't know what you meant about jealousy? Listened to an 8th medic story last night and they were talking about some actor coming on board and he was told it was as a monster - this actor thought "Oh, the Kaleds", only to be told by NB - "No, I do their voice". That's a bit selfish, I think. Only because I would like to hear someone else do the voice.

We only express our opinions because we care. And, again, we all have different tastes. One may love something, another hates. Personal opinion.

You guys put it a lot better than I can!

In an old comicbook forum a long time ago, I went by the handle "Nuditybuffer".

I have to remind myself here, that you're not all talking about me when you're praising and lampooning "NB" so willy nilly without a care for how I may be feeling.

Just remember, everything is always about me.

Thank you.

In an old comicbook forum a long time ago, I went by the handle "Nuditybuffer".

I have to remind myself here, that you're not all talking about me when you're praising and lampooning "NB" so willy nilly without a care for how I may be feeling.

Just remember, everything is always about me.

Thank you.

Dammit - he's rumbled us!

Everybody - scarper!!!

In an old comicbook forum a long time ago, I went by the handle "Nuditybuffer".

I have to remind myself here, that you're not all talking about me when you're praising and lampooning "NB" so willy nilly without a care for how I may be feeling.

Just remember, everything is always about me.

Thank you.

You have a nilly willy? That must be uncomfortable...

I'll put my hand up and admit that I panned "The Light in Your End" but I am in no way AntiBriggs - "Unit Dominion" was my favourite story from this year's releases.

Some people think NB is like marmite, - either you love him or you hate him - but that's not true. NB is NOT like marmite. Marmite is best served thinly spread, NB is spread much too thin at the moment - he's doing too much whilst the strongest writers in his stable; Platt, Robson, Morris, Magrs, et al, are doing too little.

Can someone PM me as to where on the other site the mp4 of TLATE is...I know where the site is but I just can't find the mp4.

Thanks in advance...

Again sounds more like some weird form of Jealousy. He did exactly what you said and expressed so in interviews and the podcasts, the story wasn't working and he was persuaded to write it by David Richardson and Haige-Ellergy with some input from Russsel. He NEVER went me first me first me first. In fact this is very similar to THE 5Docs where BobHolmes was asked to do it and it ended up a mess so Dicks who turned it down once came back to re-work it.
I get the feeling all you want NB to do is sit on the sidelines. And this is the worst forum for the blatant NEGATIVITY toward the people that run BF no matter what it it. Even a server overloading [and put back up in 6 hours] gets flack from you guys.
I never see anything said about Alan Barnes David Richardson and they much larger control of what happens with the stories currently

Hi Nick, welcome to the forum. Did you get the script I sent in where the medic has to visit the planet of the lady mudwrestlers?

....whilst the strongest writers in his stable; Platt, Robson, Morris, Magrs, et al, are doing too little.

It could be that they are busy elsewhere; I know they don't write exclusively for BF. Without being privy to all the ins-and-outs at BF it's easy to criticise without knowing the facts ;)

The dig about the criticism isn't directed at you CTB, it's at everyone who constantly criticises Briggs for everything he does.

It must have been a difficult script to write since there were far too many character on deck that could not be ignored.

To get all the cute moments between the Medics, the author chose to sacrifice mounting a credible threat from the Master, but lets face it, most of his plans on the telly were quite balls.

He mucked up so bad once that he turned into a kitty cat.

It could be that they are busy elsewhere; I know they don't write exclusively for BF. Without being privy to all the ins-and-outs at BF it's easy to criticise without knowing the facts ;)

The dig about the criticism isn't directed at you CTB, it's at everyone who constantly criticises Briggs for everything he does.

Don't know about Platt, but Robson is a successful Radio comedy writer & Magrs writes novels. Morris, though, writes HEAPS for LC, so I'm not sure how he's doing 'too little'??

I'm confused. As I obviously hate NB (sorry, but my critical thinking rated LATE below The4Ds) does that mean I've been lying to myself all these years as I thought LucyM/TTD was one of the best things to come out of LC Towers. And 'Folks Of Beauty' is a cracking story. Or so I thought. Obviously I was wrong.

So, OK yeah, we're not allowed to think bad of NB.

So are we OK to think bad of others, say, LC stalwart music monkey Jammy Robbyson who in this case managed to do a score that borrowed so liberally from Giacchino, Arnold and Gold that pastiche bordered on plagiarism. Which was a shame as when he doesn't try so hard he's really rather good at his own Horner-inspired style (BF-Planet, I'm looking at you.)

Perhaps we need a graded list of how were allowed to like/dislike various aspects, and decide if this is Absolute or Relative.

EDIT - Yes, I was being sarcastic.

Nobody said we're not allowed to think bad of NB, we're all allowed our opinions.

All I'm saying is that there may be very good reasons why he does what he does and without knowing these reasons I for one will give him the benefit of the doubt.

My main peeve with him is all the spin-offs he's ok'd. I think he's spreading his writers a bit thin and I honestly think that the quality has slipped a little.

Nobody said we're not allowed to think bad of NB, we're all allowed our opinions.

All I'm saying is that there may be very good reasons why he does what he does and without knowing these reasons I for one will give him the benefit of the doubt.


True.

I think part of what the issue is (especially if viewed as an outsider) is that the thread on the whole is not one that dips into any regular or formal 'critique'. There's such a large volume of LC stuff and this thread moves so fast that most of the time it's only the The Big Ones that get any attention in that respect, and then it tends to a very wide range of views.

I think it's generally acknowledged there are better places for proper debate over stories.



My main peeve with him is all the spin-offs he's ok'd. I think he's spreading his writers a bit thin and I honestly think that the quality has slipped a little.

Agreed. They really need to get some more staff on-board otherwise they're going to stretch themselves so thin something's gonna snap. It's Paul S I feel sorry for. Every time a new range is announced there must be a small part of him that goes "Oh, great, more work for the one person that seems to actually run the back-end."

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GI Joe...Bangers and Mash...NB hate clubs...

...anyone for some Lemon Curry then...
:-)

If I didn't adore him, would I have added him to the cover of tLatE ?



I think not.

I think not.

GI Joe...Bangers and Mash...NB hate clubs...

...anyone for some Lemon Curry then...
:-)

I'd prefer Goat Curry, if that's OK. It's been far, far, far too long since I've had a decent goat curry.

I think its only natural that given the sheer amount of material BF release and how long they've been going that we can be fans but still find stuff that is disappointing or feels like a missed opportunity. Plus with any long running series or franchise there's going to be people who periods they feel are golden ages which we have a strong emotional attachment to. And of course with different people having different jumping on points, those golden ages will often clash :D

To somewhat segway for a moment; I love Stephen King, my favorite author of all-time hands down. I buy two copies of every book he publishes (one to read, one to worship/get signed on rare occasions). However, that does not stop me from critiquing his books in an intelligent manner. Some are great, some are super-great, some are just better than anything anyone else could do.

To somewhat segway for a moment.

Cool, you're going to ride a motorized scooter! ;)

Can someone wake me up when you've finished deciding whether Mr Briggs should be lionized or mauled!

What does the title mean?

Everyone is in the middle of their adventures.