TBH I think she would be a pretty good foil for Benny.

Yeah, I agree

More Eight Temporal Fighting on the wayhttps://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/the-time-war-2

More Eight Temporal Fighting on the wayhttps://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/the-time-war-2
Nice. Been looking forward to seeing what's next in that. Gotta wonder how those thick-headed Ogres are gonna make sense of the Chrono Conflict, though...

More Eight Temporal Fighting on the wayhttps://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/the-time-war-2

Although I enjoyed the War Meister I'm beginning to side with RTD's view that the chrono-conflict is best referred to rather than explained. It's catnip to the Briggster of course with all those Dull-aches to voice. I miss eight having fun adventures rather than on a collision course with his regeneration.

Although I enjoyed the War Meister I'm beginning to side with RTD's view that the chrono-conflict is best referred to rather than explained. It's catnip to the Briggster of course with all those Dull-aches to voice. I miss eight having fun adventures rather than on a collision course with his regeneration.

Absolutely, totally agree! Also, the McGann story arcs over several box sets is too much. My attention span just isn't up for it!

It seems that, in a "sub-franchises" point of view, the 8th Doctor's Time War is just a NewWho spin-off prequelling the Hurt stories, while Ravenous is the continuation of the actual "8DA" range.

I organize it that way here and it makes sense to me.

8 was my favourite LC medic a few years ago. I now find his adventures miserable and depressing and quite hard listening. Life can be miserable enough without this.

8 was my favourite LC medic a few years ago. I now find his adventures miserable and depressing and quite hard listening. Life can be miserable enough without this.

It's his darkest hour, and the worst is yet to come. At least he had a few happy moments before then...

It seems that, in a "sub-franchises" point of view, the 8th Doctor's Time War is just a NewWho spin-off prequelling the Hurt stories, while Ravenous is the continuation of the actual "8DA" range.

I organize it that way here and it makes sense to me.


Yes, it makes sense :)

8 should be about fun. his character is more light hearted. Or should be... (Just my point of view)

I'm back, and I bRought snacks for anyone Who's Quite rav... hungry

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Greatly appreciated. I was starving.

Thanks for the snacks Jez

Yes, I was starting to get a bit peckish... Much appreciated!

I'm back, and I bRought snacks for anyone Who's Quite rav... hungryThanks, Jez, I was starving. I mean I was absolutely ravenous.

Cheers Jez!

Thankyou Jez, I was feeling peckish!

Its all there, soup to nuts, thanks Jez.

Most kind of you to share,
CHEERS.

Cheers The Jez
Hunger satisfied (for now)!

Thanks for the buffet, The_Jez. Always filling.

Yum yum! I do enjoy free food - thanks

Quick change of topic. Was wondering if anyone else saw Barrowman's recent Facebook video where he rails against Target for admonishing him after he decided to be nice to a homeless guy by buying him a coat, a gift card, and a couple of other things. John was seriously pissed by the cavalier attitudes of the management and employees.

Quick change of topic. Was wondering if anyone else saw Barrowman's recent Facebook video where he rails against Target for admonishing him after he decided to be nice to a homeless guy by buying him a coat, a gift card, and a couple of other things. John was seriously pissed by the cavalier attitudes of the management and employees.

I did see that. Big ups to him, and shame on them.

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Thank you both for an outstanding meal!!!

You know, it might just be me, but somewhere between the last 8D release featuring NW and this one --- I guess I really fell out of love with how she performs the role.... maybe it isn't just me .. she seems to actually be so acerbic that you'd want to just dump her in a hospital where she can get treatment for all that depression and cynicism she leaks.

8 should be about fun. his character is more light hearted. Or should be... (Just my point of view)

Absolutely.
How I long for Lucie Miller or Charlie.

The bleakness of his stories post Lucie Miller is a bit much for me. Though I did find the Doom Coalition series a big improvement on Dark Eyes.

And yes, I know after the events in "To the Death" he's bound to feel bleak. But that only emphasises why I think that story was a massive mis-step

Absolutely.
How I long for Lucie Miller or Charlie.

The bleakness of his stories post Lucie Miller is a bit much for me. Though I did find the Doom Coalition series a big improvement on Dark Eyes.

And yes, I know after the events in "To the Death" he's bound to feel bleak. But that only emphasises why I think that story was a massive mis-step
For me the worst block of stories for Eight will always be the Alternate Reality nonsense with C'Rizz. Recent entries have been bland when compared to early Edwardian Adventuress or the Girl from Blackpool stories but nowhere near as horrible as that mess.

I'm a little surprised that none of the new Bullseye books, or the two most recent Medic magazines (regular and special) haven't surfaced online anywhere yet. Are those only to be found at 'the other place' now?

I'm a little surprised that none of the new Bullseye books, or the two most recent Medic magazines (regular and special) haven't surfaced online anywhere yet. Are those only to be found at 'the other place' now?

There's an audiobook from Bullseye about an Incursion at x-mas -- down at the 'bay...

You know, it might just be me, but somewhere between the last 8D release featuring NW and this one

The 8th Doctor obviously didn't think that much of Liv - she didn't get a mention in his farewell speech!

The 8th Doctor obviously didn't think that much of Liv - she didn't get a mention in his farewell speech!
In a retconned universe where that scene was filmed after she became a companion she was included along with the others.

The 8th Doctor obviously didn't think that much of Liv - she didn't get a mention in his farewell speech!

In a retconned universe where that scene was filmed after she became a companion she was included along with the others.
My head-canon is that Eight simply name-dropped the companions that he feels the most regret about because of how they were lost to him.

In a retconned universe where that scene was filmed after she became a companion she was included along with the others.

If we're retconning the universe, I have some requests. Mostly about stuff I got up to in the 90's....

I'm a little surprised that none of the new Bullseye books, or the two most recent Medic magazines (regular and special) haven't surfaced online anywhere yet. Are those only to be found at 'the other place' now?

Not sure if these are what you wanted.
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Nope, it was the one after. But thanks for offering anyway, Sensorite! *thumbsup*

The offering didn't go to waste, Sensorite. Cheers.

OK. That's the latest I've got. Glad they didn't go to waste though. :)

Hela's awesome ax riff. Well, quit dawdling and rock out.<!----https://www.sendspace.com/file/diu5nr--->

rock on thanks webs

Thanks webs!

I can provide a link (of sorts) to one of the bullseyes if some one can tell me how to hide it in my post.

Seems we have the first LC covers featuring the new logo. Worth noting is each cover will have a reversible side with a Classic Era logo instead.

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Thoughts?

Classic logo better

Has the CB art been stretched a little?

It looks like the CB Classic logo one has the art scaled larger than the cover, so might just be an error they didn't catch when they published it.

why tho

Each Medic has their own logo from the era. why put new one on? I don't understand the need.

Each Medic has their own logo from the era. why put new one on? I don't understand the need.

New BBC guidelines.
All merchandise must feature the new logo

Each Medic has their own logo from the era. why put new one on? I don't understand the need. I also wondered why the push to the New logo. LC never felt the need to switch to the Eccleston-Tennant or Smith-Capaldi era logos so why change now? I can only assume the Beeb ordered all Medic products to use the same branding including the LC audios.

morning lovely people............would some kind soul please share the war medics first 2 volumes from LC, ive had an unfortunate PC accident and lost them. thank you in advance.

morning lovely people............would some kind soul please share the war medics first 2 volumes from LC, ive had an unfortunate PC accident and lost them. thank you in advance.

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Fake Ten. Not quite as good as the real thing, but what are you going to do?
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Thanks so much for this webs
Much appreciated

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"Fake Ten. Not quite as good as the real thing, but what are you going to do?"

Thanks for these also webs, so quick

Beat me to it. was just in process of upping. ne-er mind. :)

Probably should have done it before the other ones.

I also wondered why the push to the New logo. LC never felt the need to switch to the Eccleston-Tennant or Smith-Capaldi era logos so why change now? I can only assume the Beeb ordered all Medic products to use the same branding including the LC audios.

Brand management in order to increase net profits. Pretty typical strategy when uniting customerbases. In this case, it is probably aimed at getting fans of one era or another to be 'curious' enough about a product with a similar logo to pick it up as well - thereby increasing the chance they might do so again.

It is theoretically something that could profit LC in a positive way, if they can get fans of the newer series who haven't yet been interested in picking up the classic stuff due to the "retro" identifier marks. Likewise it all has potential to increase the market for the Beeb.

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thank you kind sir, your fabulous, you just saved my weekend :) :)

Thanks Webs

Many thanks also.

thank you kind sir, your fabulous, you just saved my weekend :) :)

Welcome.

Problem with putting the modern merchandising on the classic stuff is someone familiar with the 1x1 hour zippy pacing of JW as the Medic might pick up a 6x25 Minute meandering pacing of a JP thinking its the same thing because the branding matches, which is why we had that branding to start with.
Personally it annoys me because stuff like LC thats set in a past era will date inappropriately, and will have to constantly change from this point until they inevitably revert to the "classic" logo in who know how many years time.
It's not like the Beeb are confident in the classics' mass marketability anyway, there are DVD collections out for the silver men and pepper pots containing most of their modern stories, plus a classic buried in the bonus features of all places! If they're willing to put whole stories as "bonus features" not to potentially scare people off, why would they market the whole series exactly the same?

Each Medic has their own logo from the era. why put new one on? I don't understand the need.

Same reason they never used their own logos before. Why is it an issue now?

I think it looks good. This seems like a lot of fuss over nothing.

I think it looks good. This seems like a lot of fuss over nothing.

They are just discussing it. Honestly, I mostly agree with you, though time will tell if the LC artists are able to make it work across all the various Medic ranges they have (I am interested in how the early adventures will look...)

They are just discussing it. Honestly, I mostly agree with you, though time will tell if the LC artists are able to make it work across all the various Medic ranges they have (I am interested in how the early adventures will look...)The one major advantage I see to returning to a full cover layout is it opens space for more detailed designs. The artists will no longer be limited to restricting their artwork so it fits within the three fourths cover layout.

Actually the sidebar freed up more room then having the logo top and centre, which squashed the artwork into the bottom two thirds of the cover. The Sidebar allowed artists to use a lot more room in portrait, and it wasn't unheard of for bits of art to obscure bits of the side bar. But that's not a problem with the new logo, which isn't stacked.

Not LC but there's a radio interview with both the two old Nu Who showrunners here by a certain Irish TV personality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Y5VXkkOik

Latest Burning Trees are both up in the bay... ;)

Hello, I'm looking for the remastered 2 x CD reissue from 2005 of "The Medic and the Fish of 1000 pounds", in which the 2nd disc contains an interview with the leading lady from that era and recording.

If anyone has this, I'll be forever thankful.

Latest Burning Trees are both up in the bay... ;)

The Final Light

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Thanks Sensorite

Any kind soul got latest LC Schluk Homes to share Please,
Cheers.

Any kind soul got latest LC Schluk Homes to share Please,
Cheers.

Seconded.

The Final Light

Thanks Sensorite.
Did anyone ever post the previous one with the 2 Capitans?



Hello, I'm looking for the remastered 2 x CD reissue from 2005 of "The Medic and the Fish of 1000 pounds", in which the 2nd disc contains an interview with the leading lady from that era and recording.

If anyone has this, I'll be forever thankful.

Here's the interview.... RWQ
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Too many Capitans spoil the plot.

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Or I think that is the saying....

Many thanks Sensorite

Too many Capitans spoil the plot.

Or I think that is the saying....

YOU LEGEND!!!!!! :)

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could someone point me to the post where it explains how to use RWQ please?
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don't worry I worked it out!

Does chakoteya still post here?

What I love about this interview with RTD and Moffat is Russell admitting he no longer had the script for "Rose" when he came to write the novelisation and Moffat sending him a link to chakoteya's transcripts site.
(That site is a great example of why I love fandom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JtGluXxx4E

hi all, theres a show up on bbc iplayer by julian simpson who wrote some stuff for chinny medic. it's called Mythos and stars nicola walker, three episodes. also if you google his name you can get his other radio plays from his site. listened to 2 and they're excellent.Oh and Nicola Walker is in all of them.

For fans of the every-seven-day publication in 1979, RWQ

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Holy crow, Roberts is making his LC debut along side the other Misters and Miss. Never thought that would happen.

Thank you @timevortex! Any chance you got the full 2 CD set in which this interview is from? Thanks!

Thank you @timevortex! Any chance you got the full 2 CD set in which this interview is from? Thanks!

Sorry, just seem to have the interview.

Holy crow, Roberts is making his LC debut along side the other Misters and Miss. Never thought that would happen.G�mez's involvement was actually leaked in this thread but I could never expect Roberts being along for the ride. Song's gonna have some predicament.

The fact that LC is utilizing Roberts Mister may open the door to the possibility of a return appearance by the San Fran doctor and the Chinese kid. Both actors have expressed in the past a desire to return as those characters and have worked with LC before so there's already an established relationship.

The fact that LC is utilizing Roberts Mister may open the door to the possibility of a return appearance by the San Fran doctor and the Chinese kid. Both actors have expressed in the past a desire to return as those characters and have worked with LC before so there's already an established relationship.

I think there's still an issue with rights though.
I believe The Mister is owned by BeeeBeeeeCeee - regardless of who's playing the role - whereas the other two are owned by the company that produced 8's movie episode.

Grab your towels and fire up the sub ether radios because that quartet of space faring weirdos are back for more interstellar hijinks.
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One question, does anyone here manage to read DWM's latest Time Team articles on classic series episodes without puking? The "Spearhead from Space" one just went viral on some facebook groups because of it's sheer teenagery.

What do you mean by teenagery?
I have not had a chance to read it yet

The fact that LC is utilizing Roberts Mister may open the door to the possibility of a return appearance by the San Fran doctor and the Chinese kid. Both actors have expressed in the past a desire to return as those characters and have worked with LC before so there's already an established relationship.

They tackled this on the LC podcast this week; they cannot use any character that was created for the movie, but any that existed before it came out is fair game.

One question, does anyone here manage to read DWM's latest Time Team articles on classic series episodes without puking? The "Spearhead from Space" one just went viral on some facebook groups because of it's sheer teenagery.

There comes a day when you realise that you are growing old and that you are no longer the target audience for marketing. I guess that today is your day.

I'm that exact age and its definitely puke worthy. But then again a few of those members aren't even *fans* or haven't even watched since RTD and are just on there because they have social media followings.

Thanks Sensorite.
Did anyone ever post the previous one with the 2 Capitans?




Here's the interview.... RWQ
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Darn it - I missed this interview - anyone re-up it for me?

Thanks is advance...

Sorry, just seem to have the interview.

I see. Still, I thank you, because I really loved listening to that interview.

She was taken away from us too soon, I say... :(

What do you mean by teenagery?
I have not had a chance to read it yetComplaints against "slow pace", a girl saying "if it was a Moffat episode, the first part would be the first 20 seconds" as if that would be a good thing, "Pertwee's era opens up with the same shot as Rose (the episode)"... comparisons between Liz and Rose (the character)...

It's unswallowable.

I agree.
Be interesting to re-edit an episode from back then and set it up like a current episode and vice-versa

I agree.
Be interesting to re-edit an episode from back then and set it up like a current episode and vice-versa



Since the pre-nu-who episodes were paced at a rate that makes it impossible to reedit into a current episode (i.e. a 45m story that is action from start to finish versus a 3/4/6 episode that takes time to actually narrate) === I feel this is unlikely.

Complaints against "slow pace", a girl saying "if it was a Moffat episode, the first part would be the first 20 seconds" as if that would be a good thing, "Pertwee's era opens up with the same shot as Rose (the episode)"... comparisons between Liz and Rose (the character)...

It's unswallowable.

Whats wrong with that? Grump older fans need to accept the world doesn't revolve around their blinkered opinions.

The classic series actually required an attention span that lasted more than two seconds, something today's nuwho audience is incapable of.

Someone edited Twice Upon a Time in the style of the classic black and white serials, complete with radiophonicesque soundtrack replacing Murray Gold's stuff.

It turned out ok.

The classic series actually required an attention span that lasted more than two seconds, something today's nuwho audience is incapable of.

Ah, the old "back in my day...." and "when I were a lad..." thing. I think what older fans have to realise is that new viewers aren't any less attentive than the old series viewers and it is a mistake to think that old Doctor Who required a greater attention span. That simply isn't true, old Doctor Who was padded out to sometimes ridiculous lengths (3rd Doctor 6 parters anyone?) so nuwho, cutting out the padding and faff, isn't pandering to an audience without attention but to an audience that won't hang around for an entire episode while nothing happens to advance the plot.

Complaints against "slow pace", a girl saying "if it was a Moffat episode, the first part would be the first 20 seconds" as if that would be a good thing, "Pertwee's era opens up with the same shot as Rose (the episode)"... comparisons between Liz and Rose (the character)...

It's unswallowable.

Not liking the slower pace seems fair enough - that's something the modern audience would obviously struggle with. However, complaining about using the same shot as Rose, but 35 years earlier, seems a little bit dense.

Since the pre-nu-who episodes were paced at a rate that makes it impossible to reedit into a current episode (i.e. a 45m story that is action from start to finish versus a 3/4/6 episode that takes time to actually narrate) === I feel this is unlikely.

I wouldn't be too sure. There is a faneditor out there that specializes in doing exactly that, and has edited the entirety of the old show (including the audio-only ones) into much faster versions of themselves. He's currently tinkering with the newer stuff, fan-fixing select ones (he flat-out refuses to follow the show past Twelve's era). Look around and you'll probably find it.

Ah, the old "back in my day...." and "when I were a lad..." thing. I think what older fans have to realise is that new viewers aren't any less attentive than the old series viewers and it is a mistake to think that old Doctor Who required a greater attention span. That simply isn't true, old Doctor Who was padded out to sometimes ridiculous lengths (3rd Doctor 6 parters anyone?) so nuwho, cutting out the padding and faff, isn't pandering to an audience without attention but to an audience that won't hang around for an entire episode while nothing happens to advance the plot.

So if we apply that logic to The Last Jedi, cutting out the faff, where nothing happens, we would have a 45 minute movie where Leia and co are chased across space, land on a planet, get attacked, Luke turns up, and with clever editing, does not die! sounds good to me! lol
On a series note, I agree, I still think the 60 min original home release of Brain of Morbius gallops along compared to the full version, as does the two 50 min episode version of Genesis of the daleks.
However, I still would not be without the original versions.

So if we apply that logic to The Last Jedi, cutting out the faff, where nothing happens, we would have a 45 minute movie where Leia and co are chased across space, land on a planet, get attacked, Luke turns up, and with clever editing, does not die! sounds good to me! lol


If we apply the logic to The Last Jedi we'd have a one minute long movie which just consists of the opening crawl saying "don't waste your time, seriously - nothing that anybody does in this movie matters" Not a fan.

I wouldn't be too sure. There is a faneditor out there that specializes in doing exactly that, and has edited the entirety of the old show (including the audio-only ones) into much faster versions of themselves. He's currently tinkering with the newer stuff, fan-fixing select ones (he flat-out refuses to follow the show past Twelve's era). Look around and you'll probably find it.

Whoflix ? Some of that stuff's great. Some of it's less successful. There's a brilliant edit of Dalek Invasion Of Earth using the soundtrack from the movie.

Old Doctor Who was padded out to sometimes ridiculous lengths (3rd Doctor 6 parters anyone?) so nuwho, cutting out the padding and faff, isn't pandering to an audience without attention but to an audience that won't hang around for an entire episode while nothing happens to advance the plot. I will concede that there were a fair number of classic stories that felt overpadded and pointless, but the longer runtimes did allow for something which has been sorely lacking in NuWho, and that is better development of the secondary characters. Unless they are part of a running subplot, secondary roles have little to no character development whatsoever, mainly because the shorter runtime doesn't allow for it.

If we apply the logic to The Last Jedi we'd have a one minute long movie which just consists of the opening crawl saying "don't waste your time, seriously - nothing that anybody does in this movie matters" Not a fan.

You know what, I was going to post a spirited defence of my 45 minute edit and say things like, " But we would have missed this good part, or that good part", and the more I thought about it, the more I struggled to actually think of ANY good parts!
Taking away my misty childhood joy of seeing legacy characters, badly handled as they were, there is simply nothing there..... my god Del, you were right..... YOU WERE RIGHT!

Taking away my misty childhood joy of seeing legacy characters, badly handled as they were, there is simply nothing there.

My main problem is that nothing the lead characters do in the entire film materially affects the plot. This isn't always fatal to a film, I really like Raiders of the Lost Ark despite the fact that Indy doesn't change a thing (in actual fact if it hadn't been for Indy the Nazis wouldn't have even got the ark, they were digging in the wrong place remember) but in The Last Jedi the film takes two hours to get to the outcome that would have happened if the characters hadn't actually done anything. They literally waste a character to get to that point as well.

The main difference to me is that the first Time Team were funny

This lot try to be, and fail.
If they made me laugh I'd happily overlook their idiocy

I loved TLJ, though I can see why some might not. Bits and pieces hit uncomfortably close to home. Luke has learned the wrong message from Obi-Wan and Yoda. He understands that when accidentally creating an enemy, he should hide away in the arse end of the galaxy while things get worse. Perhaps he feels that if he can't be part of the solution, at least he's no longer part of the problem. But he doesn't realise that sooner or later, he needs to step back in and fix his mess. Even when Rey calls him on it, he refuses. It takes Yoda to nudge him into action.

If there's one DW story that should be sped up, IMO, it's the Web Planet. It's weird, but the pacing detracts from the fun weirdness. It could be enjoyably WTF if done faster.

The classic series actually required an attention span that lasted more than two seconds, something today's nuwho audience is incapable of.

Utter bollocks and elitist snobbery. People like different stuff. That's it.

It's like me says older fans are incapable of keeping up with fast moving and multi-layered stories because they need a simple slow story.

Its more how they went about it. It only really made me cringe, not throw my arms up in anger. There's a lot more dumb stuff in the article, but as i said most of them aren't even fans anymore which makes a lot of it unsurprising. It's not so much a case of "newer fans vs older fans," its more two young classic fans plus a handful of new series only fans with a couple of famous bloggers who used to watch the show between 2005 and 2011.

A heart-rending plea on the Bay - "Andrew! Please don’t share this! SAVE your money!" - offers NUTI Cyborg Realness.

"Andrew! Please don�t share this! SAVE your money!"

I don't understand what that means.

It's a comment made by an uploader to a fellow uploader. Have a gander and it'll make sense. Andrew has taken decisive action!

Complaints against "slow pace", a girl saying "if it was a Moffat episode, the first part would be the first 20 seconds" as if that would be a good thing, "Pertwee's era opens up with the same shot as Rose (the episode)"... comparisons between Liz and Rose (the character)...

It's unswallowable.

God, that sounds awful.

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I loved TLJ, though I can see why some might not. Bits and pieces hit uncomfortably close to home. Luke has learned the wrong message from Obi-Wan and Yoda. He understands that when accidentally creating an enemy, he should hide away in the arse end of the galaxy while things get worse. Perhaps he feels that if he can't be part of the solution, at least he's no longer part of the problem. But he doesn't realise that sooner or later, he needs to step back in and fix his mess. Even when Rey calls him on it, he refuses. It takes Yoda to nudge him into action.

If there's one DW story that should be sped up, IMO, it's the Web Planet. It's weird, but the pacing detracts from the fun weirdness. It could be enjoyably WTF if done faster.

I'm finding I agree with you, with TLJ (though it probably could have used a bit more tightening here and there. Mind you I quite like some of the deleted scenes and would have liked to have seen some reinstated, but that would have made it even longer!) and Web Planet (plus I can't stand that awful noise throughout the episodes)

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Utter bollocks and elitist snobbery. People like different stuff. That's it.

It's like me says older fans are incapable of keeping up with fast moving and multi-layered stories because they need a simple slow story.

Yes, we all like different stuff, doesn't make one right or wrong, or even better or worse. I hate Nu vs Classic, whereas actual, proper critique is justifiable. It's important to remember that, at the very beginning of the show it was basically a serial, with different adventures every four to ten or more episodes. Plus we have the way things were funded, when they got into the 70's and they had to choose which stories were going to be four or six episodes long. Budgets actually necessitated story length. It's an unusual show in that the only real standing set is the interior of the time-machine. In the 60's you could get away with twelve episode length stories as people were used to tuning in each week, when there wasn't much competition for people's attention. Nowadays we tend to want to watch everything at once (hello shows like Stranger Things, the new Lost in Space) where looking at an older story, with the budget of a drama show, designed to be watched week by week, and watched only once, it will seem worlds apart. Personally I try to remember the circumstances in which something was made, the era it was made, the budget etc. The behind the scenes have really made me appreciate what went into making of the shows before my time. Funnily enough, being a fan of the classic era, I'll sometimes watch the old episodes and wish some things would speed up, just like my attention span requires something faster. I do admire attempts, like Deeds of Soom, where they split the episode up to have two separate settings. Two episodes in antarctica (or was it the arctic?) and the last four episodes in the UK. Now that was a good use of a six-parter. I do long for stories around the four episode mark. Forty-five minutes is sometimes too fast to tell as story in, and some stories they tell in two parts feel like they could have been told in one episode. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how things pan out later in the year.

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It's a comment made by an uploader to a fellow uploader. Have a gander and it'll make sense. Andrew has taken decisive action!

Is that directed at AndrewO54 by any chance?

God, that sounds awful.

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I'm finding I agree with you, with TLJ (though it probably could have used a bit more tightening here and there. Mind you I quite like some of the deleted scenes and would have liked to have seen some reinstated, but that would have made it even longer!) and Web Planet (plus I can't stand that awful noise throughout the episodes)

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Yes, we all like different stuff, doesn't make one right or wrong, or even better or worse. I hate Nu vs Classic, whereas actual, proper critique is justifiable. It's important to remember that, at the very beginning of the show it was basically a serial, with different adventures every four to ten or more episodes. Plus we have the way things were funded, when they got into the 70's and they had to choose which stories were going to be four or six episodes long. Budgets actually necessitated story length. It's an unusual show in that the only real standing set is the interior of the time-machine. In the 60's you could get away with twelve episode length stories as people were used to tuning in each week, when there wasn't much competition for people's attention. Nowadays we tend to want to watch everything at once (hello shows like Stranger Things, the new Lost in Space) where looking at an older story, with the budget of a drama show, designed to be watched week by week, and watched only once, it will seem worlds apart. Personally I try to remember the circumstances in which something was made, the era it was made, the budget etc. The behind the scenes have really made me appreciate what went into making of the shows before my time. Funnily enough, being a fan of the classic era, I'll sometimes watch the old episodes and wish some things would speed up, just like my attention span requires something faster. I do admire attempts, like Deeds of Soom, where they split the episode up to have two separate settings. Two episodes in antarctica (or was it the arctic?) and the last four episodes in the UK. Now that was a good use of a six-parter. I do long for stories around the four episode mark. Forty-five minutes is sometimes too fast to tell as story in, and some stories they tell in two parts feel like they could have been told in one episode. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how things pan out later in the year.

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Is that directed at AndrewO54 by any chance?

Not sure but has some kind soul shared NUTI cyborg realness?

Is that directed at AndrewO54 by any chance?

Yes, indeed. He's taken all of the attention someone else wanted.

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Not sure but has some kind soul shared NUTI cyborg realness?

Not here, on another site. It'll make its way here, I'm sure.

God, that sounds awful.[COLOR="Silver"]



Yes, we all like different stuff, doesn't make one right or wrong, or even better or worse. I hate Nu vs Classic, whereas actual, proper critique is justifiable. It's important to remember that, at the very beginning of the show it was basically a serial, with different adventures every four to ten or more episodes. Plus we have the way things were funded, when they got into the 70's and they had to choose which stories were going to be four or six episodes long. Budgets actually necessitated story length. It's an unusual show in that the only real standing set is the interior of the time-machine. In the 60's you could get away with twelve episode length stories as people were used to tuning in each week, when there wasn't much competition for people's attention. Nowadays we tend to want to watch everything at once (hello shows like Stranger Things, the new Lost in Space) where looking at an older story, with the budget of a drama show, designed to be watched week by week, and watched only once, it will seem worlds apart. Personally I try to remember the circumstances in which something was made, the era it was made, the budget etc. The behind the scenes have really made me appreciate what went into making of the shows before my time. Funnily enough, being a fan of the classic era, I'll sometimes watch the old episodes and wish some things would speed up, just like my attention span requires something faster. I do admire attempts, like Deeds of Soom, where they split the episode up to have two separate settings. Two episodes in antarctica (or was it the arctic?) and the last four episodes in the UK. Now that was a good use of a six-parter. I do long for stories around the four episode mark. Forty-five minutes is sometimes too fast to tell as story in, and some stories they tell in two parts feel like they could have been told in one episode. Anyway, I look forward to seeing how things pan out later in the year.


I remember being a young fan in the 1980s constantly told by older fans how anything new was and how much better it was when they were younger. It really put me off 1970s stuff for ages because these fans create divisions.

Snagged from the Bay...

New monthly medic #238 - Appeal of the Wanderer

RWQ

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Cheers, spevman!

Has this site been hacked?
Almost as soon as the page loads I get redirected to half a dozen spam sites

Has this site been hacked?
Almost as soon as the page loads I get redirected to half a dozen spam sites

Yeah, something's going on. I was able to ascertain that the page keeps trying to redirect to a couple URL addresses in sequence. If you are using Firefox, download and install the add-on Blocksite and then add the following to domains to the block list: katie.runtnc.net & iyfnzgb.com

Has this site been hacked?
Almost as soon as the page loads I get redirected to half a dozen spam sites The site has been having issues for months. Previously programs like Ublock Origin prevented any annoyances from affecting your browser while here, but the threats seem to have gotten even more aggressive and are now getting around adblockers. There are a couple of threads which have attempted to alert admins of the situation but with zero response outside of posts telling users to alert someone named Sarah....who apparently has been MIA from the forum for some time now.

I can confirm that the add-on Blocksite works. If you right click on the highjack page when it loads you can block it from the menu. Not very satisfactory but it works for now.

Will that work through firefox? Been having the same issues past couple of days

Took seven attempts to get through this time. It's getting worse

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Will that work through firefox? Been having the same issues past couple of days

Yes it's an addon

Was going to post this yesterday but saw Spevman posted the bay version. This is an alternate single file version of Wanderer's Appeal for anyone who wants it.
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It seems Sarah finally showed up and took care of the malicious code issue....at least for now.

Snagged from the Bay...

New monthly medic #238 - Appeal of the Wanderer

RWQ

<https://mega.nz/#!ZUsjDLII!qPGgPvPZUH4I3BmsTqQ2oyMHkmJbwISjpWjH946aJOw>

<or>

<https://openload.co/f/QsA8GKWfjGU/DWMR238.rar>

Thank you so much spevman & so quick!

I remember being a young fan in the 1980s constantly told by older fans how anything new was and how much better it was when they were younger. It really put me off 1970s stuff for ages because these fans create divisions.

It's funny really. Where I grew up (or,at least, spent the years I was seven to just over 16) we had only one channel and nearly everyone would watch the Medic. I don't remember any of the discussion that goes on. People just watched and enjoyed the show. My experience of the show was from Third Medic to Sixth Medic then. No-one would say anyone was better than the other, or that previous eras were better, or worse. We all just enjoyed the show. I do remember the TV station playing two Second Medic stories, as they hadn't been shown since they were originally shown. I did find them a bit slower, and a bit clunky technically - I found it odd that the reprise from the previous week was re-staged, rather than repeated, as I was used to seeing. Other than that I enjoyed the chance of seeing the Second Medic and team in action (plus I adored Wendy!). They weren't exactly the type of stories that were a good representation of the era though (D0m!n@ators and The Croutons).

The only time I got the inkling that certain fans were critical was when I started ordering some issues of DWB. And, these days anyone and everyone waxes lyrical about the show, past & present, myself included. I try to enjoy the show as it comes out, going in with no preconceived thoughts. One test I have used of late is the DVD/Blu-ray test. I'll explain. When I started buying Nu Medic on DVD I'd eagerly devour the DVDs, going through, watching everything again, listening to the commentaries, watching all the extras. I did this up until the Sixth series. I still buy the show, on DVD or Blu-ray, but I will hardly watch much of it. One thing that happened was that I was hospitalised (my wife brought me in the Series Six box-set to hospital). That did put things back as I was very very ill. But still I haven't been as keen to dip into watching as it used to be for me. The last series was an improvement, but the grand Moff was well past his use by date. Those three monk-centric episodes were absolute bores. I look forward to the new series, when it finally airs (at last, a Medic that I can fancy! Your tastes may differ).

I've always enjoyed the Sixth Medic and Seventh Medic, for the record. Though, for some people it's only been LC that has changed people's minds. It was funny, reading one of the Handbooks, about the Sixth Medic and how Mr CB wanted to portray the Medic - thankfully the powers that be saw sense and reigned him in (I always put P3ri's attempted strangulation and bad moods down to post renewal problems - but now I see it was really just how CB wanted to portray the character - boy did that get a lot of backlash!).

Anyway, that's my two cents worth of nattering. Normal service has resumed...

I finally got round to reading the article & I honestly couldn't see anything wrong with it! They seemed to enjoy the episodes, overall. There was the odd comment about pacing & Liz Shaw but, in my opinion, they were fair & the comments were generally positive. They were more than generous about Time & The Rani.

Thanks webs, I can't get that openload site to work so your link did me nicely.

I think some wires might have been crossed there, as CB wanted to play the Medic way more likeable than we saw. JNT was the one who wanted the character to start out like he did in Double Problem and slowly mellow over CB tenure.

I think some wires might have been crossed there, as CB wanted to play the Medic way more likeable than we saw. JNT was the one who wanted the character to start out like he did in Double Problem and slowly mellow over CB tenure.
CB said somewhere that Six's persona during that first year was the the one disagreement he had with JNT and was happy that the writers dialed back the harder edges during the Trial arc, but that he felt it was LC who really redeemed Six's persona. The Six we hear in the audios was much closer to the way he had originally intended to approach the character.

I think some wires might have been crossed there, as CB wanted to play the Medic way more likeable than we saw. JNT was the one who wanted the character to start out like he did in Double Problem and slowly mellow over CB tenure.


CB said somewhere that Six's persona during that first year was the the one disagreement he had with JNT and was happy that the writers dialed back the harder edges during the Trial arc, but that he felt it was LC who really redeemed Six's persona. The Six we hear in the audios was much closer to the way he had originally intended to approach the character.

I'm sure I've read in lots of interviews that Colin wanted the Sixth Doctor to start off that jagged and to have his edges soften up over the six years he wanted to play the Doctor.

Given that there was virtually no directorial input into his character I'm afraid that only Colin and Eric Saward are to blame for how the Sixth Doctor comes across.

Thankfully he had Big Finish to give a new lease of life later

I'm sure I've read in lots of interviews that Colin wanted the Sixth Doctor to start off that jagged and to have his edges soften up over the six years he wanted to play the Doctor.

Given that there was virtually no directorial input into his character I'm afraid that only Colin and Eric Saward are to blame for how the Sixth Doctor comes across.

Thankfully he had Big Finish to give a new lease of life later

Yeah, in the Trials & Tribulations documentary, Colin says that it was his suggestion to have his Doctor start out that way & become more likeable as we "peel the banana" & learn more about him over a lengthy run of adventures.

You can hardly blame him for wanting a character arc, he was promised and Expected a job that carried for at least a few years of consistent releases, not a major hiatus meant to kill the series off 1/3 of the way through.

You can hardly blame him for wanting a character arc, he was promised and Expected a job that carried for at least a few years of consistent releases, not a major hiatus meant to kill the series off 1/3 of the way through. Not even Colin could have anticipated that soon after being cast as the Medic that a man with a personal beef against him and a deep hatred of Medic Who would be made Beeb's Head of Programming and make it his mission to ruin both.

Yeah... I think Colin's intention was great and he can't be blamed for it being sabotaged.

A quote from the Medic What Handbook: The Sixth Medic, page 60. Colin says "I thought it would be quite nice if sometimes he didn't behave in the way we would expect him to behave . So, on one day, if a person was mown down in front of him he might just step over them and ask somebody the time; on another day, he might go into terrible paroxysms of grief about a sparrow falling out of a tree. Obviously we'd have to explain why, and what it was that was concerning the Medic. I just didn't want him to behave in an obvious, sentimental, approachable way. I wanted him to be a little bit unapproachable. He could get extremely angry about something - a build up followed by a sudden explosion, so that the rage might seem to be about one thing when it was actually about something which had happened two episodes ago, perhaps. I think there's a danger with this kind of programme that it's all too pat, all too obvious".

On page 63: After talking about early meetings the authors say of a meeting with the then controller of BeebBeebCee1: "As is apparent from this account, Medic What's then script editor, 3ric S@ward, made relatively little contribution during the meeting when the Sixth Medic's character was being conceived." and that he was unhappy with the casting of CB as the Medic. The authors also make known that in early interviews CB chose to emphasise the sheer unpredictability of his character, saying in a 1984 interview "He has many facets to his personality and, bearing in mind that he is an alien, some are difficult to understand. When he's a little bit curt to his assistant. Impatient. Irascible. I think that these are very important aspects for the Medic to have. For him to behave as a human behaves would be a shame. It would be wasting the character... He's not a slavish follower of anybody. He is prone to reacting very differently to exactly the same situation, according to the way he feels....In casual conversation he won't always be polite...He can't be bothered with social graces".

On page 65: The authors talk about early criticisms to CB's portrayal of violence in the series in season 22 and his reaction was "I personally would go a bit further".

On pages 68-69 the authors then address how, in CB's final season, it was when they reached this point that CB and N1c0la Bri@nt started to play against what had been written as both actors realised that the antagonism couldn't go on.

Make no mistake. Jay En Tee was quite happy to go along with the way CB wanted to portray the character and what you saw of the way CB's Medic acted was the way CB wanted to go. He wanted to go even further in some instances. It's only in later years that CB realises the way he played it was probably wrong. I think what you get is a producer and main star wanting to go a different direction to what went before with the portrayal, a script editor who didn't like the star an audience who didn't take to things at all and, at the end, a controller who hated the whole lot and got rid of the show for a while, as well as its star. So we ended up with the mess we ended up with.

I will say again though, that I never minded CB's Medic in the 80's and enjoyed the stories. As I say, I always put CB's portrayal in Tw1n D1l3mma down to post renewal problems. But, please don't mistake how they intended things during this time.

The various interviews with CB since his run went off the air are marvelous. His growth as a person is really magnificent in how he was able to overcome what the drama director did to him. ANYWAY, enough of my sermonizing about CB, haha.

The various interviews with CB since his run went off the air are marvelous. His growth as a person is really magnificent in how he was able to overcome what the drama director did to him. ANYWAY, enough of my sermonizing about CB, haha.
Yeah, CB's probably the one who has the most justifiable reasons to fling mud at the show because he got the shit end of the stick during his time in the blue box. The fact he doesn't and continues to be a fan of the newer stuff should be an example to a lot of the fans who've been coming out of the woodwork lately shitting on Ms. Whittaker before she's had her chance to show what 13 can do. Not only that, but I read somewhere that the drama director who gave him so much grief is the only one not to be knighted. Given that it's said that the Queen herself loves the Medic's adventures, I wouldn't be surprised if that was Her Majesty's way of looking out for CB. :)

The problem with having an unlikable Medic is you need two likable companions to compensate. It worked will with Ian & Barbara as they could be the characters we liked and shared our fears about this new Doctor with. Instead we got a passive aggressive whining stripper.

I'm completely lost, now.

Well, I mean we had Mel too !

New set for TB is down at the bay...

Glub Glub

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Thanks Sensorite

Thank you Sensorite!

Thank you Sensorite!

Thanks!

Newest burning branch and what I assume is new dude with painting in the attic over on the bay.

Not seeing the new burning branch release there. Might it have been removed?

Not seeing the new burning branch release there. Might it have been removed? It's here <!----http://audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/bf-torchwood-we-always-get-out-alive-guy-adams/---'>

Thanks webs.

thanks sensorite

The motherload just dropped into the bay - including the final outing for the victorian gentleman.

I cannot Believe that the LC podcast did not cover the final J&L. At all.

I cannot Believe that the LC podcast did not cover the final J&L. At all.

Maybe they just let it speak for itself, or that they still felt the loss keenly, or thought there was nothing more to say?

Or perhaps there's an upcoming J&L podcast special.

Maybe they just let it speak for itself, or that they still felt the loss keenly, or thought there was nothing more to say?

Thats what my thought was as well.

Or perhaps there's an upcoming J&L podcast special.

Is there?

Is there?

There is not. They did acknowledge the release exists by doing a 15m drama tease at the end of the podcast this week though.

They already did a J&L podcast back when Trevor died.

There is not. They did acknowledge the release exists by doing a 15m drama tease at the end of the podcast this week though.

They already did a J&L podcast back when Trevor died.

Well, I'm going to savour all those series and releases I haven't had the chance to listen to yet. I'm glad they let the guys do that special about their lives. I really enjoyed that.

Did unit ever turn up? I don't think I was paying attention.

Talk about beating a dead horse.http://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2018/05/28/big-finish-to-revive-doctor-who-spin-off-class-featuring-ace-and-the-daleks/

Talk about beating a dead horse.http://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2018/05/28/big-finish-to-revive-doctor-who-spin-off-class-featuring-ace-and-the-daleks/

Oh god..... I never actually made it through actually watching the series, still have 3 to go.... just cant get around to it! I understand that one and a half people (more or less), actually give a shit and are happy about this, but for me, this is a complete and utter MEH!

Oh god..... I never actually made it through actually watching the series, still have 3 to go.... just cant get around to it! I understand that one and a half people (more or less), actually give a shit and are happy about this, but for me, this is a complete and utter MEH!You've gotten further than I ever did. I didn't make it past the second episode.

I wasn't thrilled by it.
But I'd have much more interest in this than in the further adventures of Jenny or Lady Christina

I wasn't thrilled by it.
But I'd have much more interest in this than in the further adventures of Jenny or Lady Christina

I AM a little curious about Jenny... Christina, not so much, However IF the do for Jenny what they did for Jago & Lightfoot ( though I doubt it!), it may have some promise.

I'm surprised they feel confident enough to put out 2 box sets without testing the water first.

I'm surprised they feel confident enough to put out 2 box sets without testing the water first.
I'm not. I mean, when they announced they had done full-cast 1st Medic stories with Bavid Dradley and the other people from Sam Kisgart's docudrama about the Medic's origins on TV, they announced 2 box sets at the same time. If anyone has the right to be confident about their output lately, it's LC. Especially since they seem to have handled Capt. Jack and co. a lot better than the people at AudioGO used to. At least, that's my opinion.

I'm not. I mean, when they announced they had done full-cast 1st Medic stories with Bavid Dradley and the other people from Sam Kisgart's docudrama about the Medic's origins on TV, they announced 2 box sets at the same time. If anyone has the right to be confident about their output lately, it's LC. Especially since they seem to have handled Capt. Jack and co. a lot better than the people at AudioGO used to. At least, that's my opinion.

Yes, that's all true. And I suppose they're relying heavily on Ace & the Daleks to draw in some listeners.

You've gotten further than I ever did. I didn't make it past the second episode.

I only got through the first episode.

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I'm not. I mean, when they announced they had done full-cast 1st Medic stories with Bavid Dradley and the other people from Sam Kisgart's docudrama about the Medic's origins on TV, they announced 2 box sets at the same time. If anyone has the right to be confident about their output lately, it's LC. Especially since they seem to have handled Capt. Jack and co. a lot better than the people at AudioGO used to. At least, that's my opinion.

I agree with you too.

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I'm not. I mean, when they announced they had done full-cast 1st Medic stories with Bavid Dradley and the other people from Sam Kisgart's docudrama about the Medic's origins on TV, they announced 2 box sets at the same time. If anyone has the right to be confident about their output lately, it's LC. Especially since they seem to have handled Capt. Jack and co. a lot better than the people at AudioGO used to. At least, that's my opinion.

I agree with you too.

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Yes, that's all true. And I suppose they're relying heavily on Ace & the Daleks to draw in some listeners.

Yes, that's the feeling I got too. Though, without that, would they get the listeners. That would be a true test.

My "Class(tm) tolerance rate" rests at four whole episodes. I never even liked Torchwood because it was so edgy and all, but Class managed to top it.

However I am interested in seeing how those kids would perform against the Daleks. Glad LC didn't wait for the corpse to rot.

I just want them to resolve the TV cliffhanger.... bet these stories all sit inbetween the televised stuff instead...

I just want them to resolve the TV cliffhanger.... bet these stories all sit inbetween the televised stuff instead...

Yes, they do. The BF site says they're set 'during the television series', 'within the TV run'.

Yes, they do. The BF site says they're set 'during the television series', 'within the TV run'.

Not that I saw them all, but I think the reason they have gone this way, is because, not all the characters make it out alive. I only say that on what I have read, but as I understand it, one maybe two of the regular cast don't survive.
I may be wrong, as I said, have not watched them all, so maybe somebody with more staying power can enlighten me on this matter?

It makes sense to tell new stories in that setting rather than resolve a cliffhanger that almost nobody saw.

I bought the Blu ray, second hand, as it was reasonably priced. Now that a lot of TV shows have their (Northern) Summer break we might catch up with the rest of the episodes.

Never mind. Didn't reload the page and other people already answered the question.

I'm surprised they feel confident enough to put out 2 box sets without testing the water first.

If the first one is well-received, they want to have the next one ready to capitalize on that reception before interest fades in favor of something else. It makes more sense to script and record both box sets at once, instead of possibly scrambling to get new scripts and reassemble the actors for a second box set in the event that the first one is a success.

I feel like it will be a race to see which of the two is less popular; School or Car Stops.

I feel like it will be a race to see which of the two is less popular; School or Car Stops.I'll see you and raise with the Medic's kid or the Lady from the Bus.

I'll see you and raise with the Medic's kid or the Lady from the Bus.

Fair enough. Just listened to the preview track of Medic's kid on the weekly podcast and CANNOT FATHOM why they thought it was a good idea.

Gotta save Chenny......

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Thank you Sensorite! Much appreciated.

No prob. I knew everyone was awaiting this with baited breath......

Thanks Sensorite

I hope the Medic's Kid sells well. If nothing else, it surely can't hurt LC (or its fans) for them to have a successful franchise with the spouse of a very-busy-and-difficult-to-schedule popular Medic.

It doesn't bode well for Chenny that only 5 people wanted this.

It doesn't bode well for Chenny that only 5 people wanted this.

I think this one will get a warmer reception from the general listening public than it's had from people here.

Thank you Sensorite!
I will give it a listen.

I think this one will get a warmer reception from the general listening public than it's had from people here.

Thank you, S! Chenny is sitting on the dock, too, so some people may have grabbed it there first/instead.

I think we would be fooling ourselves if we all didn't just straight admit that David Tennants cameo is going to be what sells the set to the General Listening Public .

I think we would be fooling ourselves if we all didn't just straight admit that David Tennants cameo is going to be what sells the set to the General Listening Public .

Yup

I think we would be fooling ourselves if we all didn't just straight admit that David Tennants cameo is going to be what sells the set to the General Listening Public .

Who's this "we"??? I've not heard about your spoiler and I've bought the set. If it was "what sells", wouldn't it be publicised rather than being kept secret?

Who's this "we"??? I've not heard about your spoiler and I've bought the set. If it was "what sells", wouldn't it be publicised rather than being kept secret?

Word of mouth.

Word of mouth.

Ironically, you've probably sparked new interest for some people...

Ironically, you've probably sparked new interest for some people...

My boat is made out of irony.



On the extremely rare chance that what I said actually results in them selling a CD to someone, I am ok with that.(It isnt what will happen, but... :P )

No prob. I knew everyone was awaiting this with baited breath......

Thanx Sensorite,

have been waiting, not with baited breath, but more, mild curiosity.

hope it's not as bad as people are suggesting!?

Honestly I want to hear what people have to say about Janet before I even decide whether it's worth a listen. I made that mistake with the awful Edwardian Adventress set. I don't want to waste my time like that again.

I think this one will get a warmer reception from the general listening public than it's had from people here.

Yes, my fellow podcaster said she wasn't sure that this was up her alley, gave it a listen and said that she really enjoyed it. She said it really brought to mind the era it was from.

Maybe it's just that we've become a bit cynical, jaded. Though, it may be just that it's not to some people's tastes.

Honestly I want to hear what people have to say about Janet before I even decide whether it's worth a listen. I made that mistake with the awful Edwardian Adventress set. I don't want to waste my time like that again.

It all depends on personal preference, however my thoughts are:
Episode 1 - utter bilge and a trial to get through
Episode 2 - a little better but still not brilliant
Episode 3 - gripped me from the start and I thought was excellent
Episode 4 - not as good as the last, but better than the first two episodes, and don't expect much from the 30 second cameo, because all it does is POTENTIALLY set up a future cross over.

On the whole I would give it 5 out of 10, but if they use Eps 3 and 4 as a template, rather than 1 and 2, it does show promise.
On the plus side Mrs T, herself, is rather fun and injects a feeling of flirty playfulness into the character and its easy to listen to!

It's weird seeing 7 looking so old, in Sense8.

My only real complaint about ... I guess we are calling it Janet ... is that the scripts were all 10th Medic scripts Per the BtS stuff, that they just repurposed for this series. It is pretty clear that this is what they did in retrospect.

Also, Janets laugh is incredibly annoying, she sounds like a female version of Tigger.

I won't really go into the storylines. There are some good points (the first episode is spectacular entirely because of Garundel) and there are some annoying points. Overall, it feels like they took the premise of the Charley series and replaced the LC characters and settings with the RTD versions of the same. Which is neither Good nor Bad, it's just what I came away with from it.


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It's weird seeing 7 looking so old, in Sense8.

I mean thats what hes looked like for a while, haha. Minus the various bits and bobs.

So the Janet set was meant to be for 10? That's a shame, I would have been far more interested in hearing him encounter a 7th Medic baddie than her, especially one from the Curse era and the pre movie one.

Also, Janets laugh is incredibly annoying, she sounds like a female version of Tigger.

I won't really go into the storylines. There are some good points (the first episode is spectacular entirely because of Garundel) and there are some annoying points.

I feel completely the opposite. The most consistently good thing about the entire box set is GT's performance & the most annoying is Garundel.

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So the Janet set was meant to be for 10? That's a shame, I would have been far more interested in hearing him encounter a 7th Medic baddie than her, especially one from the Curse era and the pre movie one.

I think that, while the stories are all good enough for a spin-off show, they would have made very weak 10th Doctor tales.

I think that, while the stories are all good enough for a spin-off show, they would have made very weak 10th Doctor tales.

That is true. 10 was sort of the beginning of the OMEGA sonic, he would have just waved it around and the whole set would have resolved itself while he was being held captive by Garundal. haha

That is true. 10 was sort of the beginning of the OMEGA sonic, he would have just waved it around and the whole set would have resolved itself while he was being held captive by Garundal. haha

God how I hate that. Makes you realize why 80's producer destroyed it!

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So the Janet set was meant to be for 10? That's a shame, I would have been far more interested in hearing him encounter a 7th Medic baddie than her, especially one from the Curse era and the pre movie one.

It must be my dyslexia, but I've only just now just realized that your name should be TeMporal Tomato.

It must be my dyslexia, but I've only just now just realized that your name should be TeMporal Tomato.

I mentioned that ages ago!

Funnily enough I think Exterminate Me also said the same thing right down to the dyslexia bit back when Medic 12 was new! And checking my profile he did indeed, back in 2015. Still better than my memory in general, which is a bit sad on my part. :P

Perhaps we're stuck in a time loop....

Perhaps we're stuck in a time loop....

We're stuck in a time loop....

Must be stuck in some kind of time loop as i keep buying the same lottery ticket that never wins. ��

I knew there was a reason I keep repeating myself.

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I knew there was a reason I keep repeating myself...

The LC podcast this week had an indepth look at the effect of piracy on their company courtesy of a listener e-mail. Worth a listen.

(Sorry to break the timeloop).

The LC podcast this week had an indepth look at the effect of piracy on their company courtesy of a listener e-mail. Worth a listen.

(Sorry to break the timeloop).

Bet it does not make people rush out and purchase though!

The LC podcast this week had an indepth look at the effect of piracy on their company courtesy of a listener e-mail. Worth a listen.

(Sorry to break the timeloop).

Did you just waggle Canine's tail?


Oh, and what number is it? (they've released three so far this month!)

Did you just waggle Canine's tail?


Oh, and what number is it? (they've released three so far this month!)
The most recent one for this past weekend.

I can't sit through an hour of Benji and Nicky nattering on so someone either please give the clip notes version of what was said or tell me at exactly what point the bit about pirating was discussed.

It clocks around 26m45s

It clocks around 26m45s

Thanks for that. I'll give it a listen.

I think that NB thinks that we think that we're more clever and cunning than we in fact think we are (or even want/try to be).

I don't think there are enough pirates here to crew a galleon. Maybe just enough to make a crew to row for Cambridge in the boat race....


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Call me a pirate and you'll feel the bite of my blinding steel.
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Thanks Sensorite and pirate webs

I just feel so sorry for the LC lawyer (waves at Mr M) who has to plough through this stuff (here and other places) in the hope of tracking down mass illegal sharing of their product that he can actually do something about....

Just call me greyhair.

Scourge of the shrine, demon of the web, couch potato of the shires.
Tremble at my massive girth, weep when you hear my knees snap, crackle and pop and marvel at my over acting. Mwah ha ha ha!

I think that NB thinks that we think that we're more clever and cunning than we in fact think we are (or even want/try to be).

Oh, yes, I agree with you there.

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Just call me greyhair.

Scourge of the shrine, demon of the web, couch potato of the shires.
Tremble at my massive girth, weep when you hear my knees snap, crackle and pop and marvel at my over acting. Mwah ha ha ha!

Lol

You and me both!

Can somebody pass me my pills.

Can somebody pass me my pills.

Here, take two and have a lie down

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Arrrr!

Honestly I want to hear what people have to say about Janet before I even decide whether it's worth a listen. I made that mistake with the awful Edwardian Adventress set. I don't want to waste my time like that again.

Won't be sacrificing goats to the gods to wish for more, but I'll not complain if more turn-up behind a freezing fuschia.

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Thanx Sensorite & Webs01

So as a complete change of subject what are everyone's thoughts on the news that the Mouse has suspended all future SW stand alone films after Solo failed to reach box office hyperspace?

So as a complete change of subject what are everyone's thoughts on the news that the Mouse has suspended all future SW stand alone films after Solo failed to reach box office hyperspace?
This was actually a rumor that - thanks to the sad toxicity of the SW fanbase right now - spread across news organizations who didn't bother to check facts because - hey, thats a click and ad revenue!.

Anyway, a google search of "StarWars not cancelled" will get you the appropriate facts.

I've always been more SW than ST, but I will be honest when I say that the level of degradation we have seen from them since last December has made me ashamed as a fan.

I've always been more SW than ST, but I will be honest when I say that the level of degradation we have seen from them since last December has made me ashamed as a fan.

It's definitely a case of quantity over quality.

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first look at 13 in action
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Quite impressed with that tbh. Thanks.

the level of degradation we have seen from them since last December has made me ashamed as a fan.
I personally think the degradation started back when the Prequel Trilogy was the target of ire, and Red Letter Media's videos on them became the stuff that members of the SW fanbase took to parroting as if it were actual "facts" about the movies themselves instead of actually thinking for themselves and developing their own opinion and insight on them. The radical direction Ep. VIII went in following Ep . VII (mostly) playing it safe from a storytelling standpoint just made it a helluva lot worse. And I say this as someone who actually likes the Prequel Trilogy, genuinely loves the radical direction Ep. VIII took with the series, and hopes that Mr. Abrams and co. maintains that going forward into Ep. IX.

So as a complete change of subject what are everyone's thoughts on the news that the Mouse has suspended all future SW stand alone films after Solo failed to reach box office hyperspace?

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I thought Solo was a very good movie. It nicely tied into the back story snippets that were set in previous movies - but with sufficient twists to keep you on your toes - and I think the lead actors did a damn fine job. Certainly a big act to follow HF, but done well and I often thought that he acted exactly like him.

I for one hope they do more.

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I thought Solo was a very good movie. It nicely tied into the back story snippets that were set in previous movies - but with sufficient twists to keep you on your toes - and I think the lead actors did a damn fine job. Certainly a big act to follow HF, but done well and I often thought that he acted exactly like him.

I for one hope they do more.

Yes, I enjoyed it too. I loved the meeting of Han and Chewie - that had me laughing (and we actually get Chewie ripping the arms off someone!). They guy playing Han did an admirable job - I could have actually believed it was a young Han. I did like that it had its twists and turns. I didn't find it predictable in that I, mostly, didn't know what was going to go on next.

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Quite impressed with that tbh. Thanks.

Glad you were. While I thought JW was good, I find that the writing seems more of the same. Swap out to MS, #11, and it could be him saying those lines. I know it's just a snippet, but if such a snippet closely follows how things went before... I know the character is and always has been slightly eccentric but it should be organic. I hate overt writing - oh look, I said on the tip of my tongue, so I'll show the tip of my tongue. That could be written by Moff. I'm sick of that type of writing. Number 3 and number 4 were eccentric, but it came more from the person playing the part. Look, they had the guts to change the sex, but not to have the metaphorical balls to change up the writing. I got sick of the Moff's stale style and predictability and this plays upon those same lines. I hope things are going to be different, I really do. Let's see come October.