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Momonoki
08-11-2015, 10:30 PM
Oh my god...
I'm going to watch The Lord of the Rings again. Something has just made me want to watch it.

Better watch the extended versions!

DAKoftheOTA
08-11-2015, 10:30 PM
You can't go much further, if at all. Can you?

Maybe I should get back to writing.

Sure we could! Things could get real weird up in here....

http://i.imgur.com/GbwCjfL.gif
http://i.imgur.com/VutYde2.gif

Momonoki
08-11-2015, 10:34 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/fbb.gif

TheSkeletonMan939
08-11-2015, 10:35 PM
Sure we could! Things could get real weird up in here....

Did you mean this kind of weird?

http://crazyhyena.com/imagebank/g/crazy-gif-Dole-bananas-commercial-weird.gif

James P.Sullivan
08-11-2015, 10:35 PM
Oh my god...
I'm going to watch The Lord of the Rings again. Something has just made me want to watch it.

I still haven't seen these films yet. Nor the Hobbit trilogy either.

The books are absolutely amazing, and the 1978 animation of LOTR is brilliantly horrendous.

But a friend of mine really wants to show me the new films, and I want to see them, so we're going to arrange to meet up and watch them together. :)

emptymetaljacket
08-11-2015, 11:00 PM
I still haven't seen these films yet. Nor the Hobbit trilogy either.

The first films are beautifully done though maybe over-rated. Jackson was simply clever in taking advantage of novel technologies to bring to life what even in imagination was utterly awe-inspiring. They do remain a must see. However, skip the Hobbit trilogy. After watching them you run the real risk of not being able to appreciate Howard Shore's music in the same way and thinking Peter Jackson is just one big joke of a fluke... at least that's how I see him now. Yes, they are actually that bad. The first seeks to be a brain-less adaptation of "Waiting for Godot" set in Tolkien's world: nothing happens. The second is actually the most entertaining of the three blockbusters, though it really isn't saying much. The third is outright laughable, from beginning to end, lacking any redeeming quality.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-11-2015, 11:04 PM
I still haven't seen these films yet. Nor the Hobbit trilogy either.

The books are absolutely amazing, and the 1978 animation of LOTR is brilliantly horrendous.

But a friend of mine really wants to show me the new films, and I want to see them, so we're going to arrange to meet up and watch them together. :)

The extended editions are the best.
But know that the color grading is different between the Theatrical and Extended cuts.

I still prefer the extended no matter what.

For the Hobbit, The Battle of the Five Armies has yet to be released.
In Oct, I think, this year, they're going to have limited theatrical extended releases to all 3 Hobbit films.

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The Hobbit is best seen in the filmed 48fps and 3D, though.

James P.Sullivan
08-11-2015, 11:11 PM
I'll watch them all. I won't be able to stop myself watching the Hobbit, I don't think.

Azetlor
08-11-2015, 11:14 PM
The Hobbit is awesome! You won't be able to stop yourself, no, I couldn't.

hack3rman
08-11-2015, 11:17 PM
The Hobbit is best seen in the filmed 48fps and 3D, though.

I've never got the chance to see the 48fps version yet (though I'd like to sometime), but the 3D is great!

DAKoftheOTA
08-11-2015, 11:24 PM
The Hobbit is best seen in the filmed 48fps and 3D, though.

Does not compute

TheSkeletonMan939
08-11-2015, 11:28 PM
I've never got the chance to see the 48fps version yet (though I'd like to sometime), but the 3D is great!

Here's a glimpse of what it looks like at 48fps. (http://www.lukeletellier.com/?portfolio=post-converting-the-hobbit-trailer-to-48fps) It's fan-made, not official, but looks neat nevertheless.

Electra
08-11-2015, 11:34 PM
Does not compute
Figures lol

James P.Sullivan
08-11-2015, 11:37 PM
Going to bed. Goodnight folks, sleep well whenever you get to that time of night.

Killgrave
08-11-2015, 11:41 PM
I say we keep going

:awsm:

Said General Custer to his men.

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Guide us, oh thou great Killgrave, back into the light, I pray.

:awsm:[COLOR="Silver.

In lieu of prayer I accept all major credit cards, checks and of course cold hard cash.

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 12:13 AM
On Steam having a nice conversation with the developers of Quadrant.
I need the soundtrack for it. Effing amazing!!

Shad
08-12-2015, 12:23 AM
But he's not a sheep.


Azetlor
08-12-2015, 12:23 AM
Just found out I only have The Lord Of the Rings on VIDEO CASETTE. WOW.

DAKoftheOTA
08-12-2015, 12:27 AM
Going through my iTunes library trying to find a good song (or 2, or 3) to use as background music as a montage for an upcoming project.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 12:40 AM
I've never got the chance to see the 48fps version yet (though I'd like to sometime), but the 3D is great!

I only saw the first 2 in 48fps.
I think 48fps is only available in 3D.

48/3D
24
24/3D


Hobbit 1: 48fps/3D, then again but in 24/3D
HUGE difference. Much smoother in 48fps plus the 3D details were lost in the 24fps version.
Way more 3D details in the 48fps, probably because the added frame adds to the perception (the brain can easily more anticipate what is to be extended in depth).

Hobbit 2: same deal. 48/3D, 24/3D.

Hobbit 3: Could only afford one viewing.
I went with 24/3D/Atmos...
Unfortunately, the theater I went to was more of a gimmick for Atmos.
It was really just 7.1 in the end. The site advertises Atmos (at no extra charge).
It was less than significant.
Last time I go to that theater.


Does not compute

:rofldata:

HFR is not for everyone.
Conversions can look decent if you take the time on them.


Here's a glimpse of what it looks like at 48fps. (http://www.lukeletellier.com/?portfolio=post-converting-the-hobbit-trailer-to-48fps) It's fan-made, not official, but looks neat nevertheless.

I remember several of these popping up.
One person used expensive software to do it. We're talking at least a couple thousand dollars.
And it wasn't an easily pirated program either. You really had to work to get the latest updates and the installation is far worse than repacking any Sony product in a box.

There is an avisynth (http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Main_Page) plugin that also helps:
InterFrame (http://www.spirton.com/interframe-2-8-2-released/) (Inter, because you interpolate frames to higher frame rates)
It's a good, fast solution for beginners. Can deliver very nice results.
Can be used in FFDShow for live playback in supported players that allow DSF (DirectShowFilters).
And avisynth (http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Main_Page) must be installed.
MPC-BC, MPC-HC, PotPlayer, etc.
VLC does not allow any external codecs, nor does it have FFDShow, so you can't use it in that.

My favorite is the same as InterFrame but way more advanced.
Requries player to use FFDShow and avisynth.
Much more robust than InterFrame.
SmoothVideo Project (SVP) (http://www.svp-team.com/)

I donated $10 to their campeign on IndieGOGO to be a pro member for life (free updates when they come out).
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/real-time-video-frame-rate-conversion-for-pc#/story
In less than half a week from when they opened their campaign, they exceeded their goal.
They updated to allow more goals and work on support for MAC and Linux users.

I can say, that over the years of using SVP, they've definitely improved the process to make it look as smooth as possible with the least amount of artefacts on-screen.
I've kept some test encodes over the years, and the most recent version (not the alpha V4 series) is definitely improved.

Mind you, with frame interpolating, there will be artefacts and other visual destruction.
It really depends on your system, the settings you choose and what type of video it is.

I love going double on everything I watch.
It's much smoother with less chance of artifacts appearing.
Plus it helps the pseudo-3D methods of the Pulfrich effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulfrich_effect) and ChromaDepth (http://chromatek.com/what-is-chromadepth/chromadepth-basic-explanation/).

SVP won't be releasing anything new for awhile until SVP4 is ready for stable release (not alpha/beta).

I think I might convert the first LOTR movie to 48fps. ;)

DAKoftheOTA
08-12-2015, 12:44 AM
:rofldata:

HFR is not for everyone.
Conversions can look decent if you take the time on them.

It was absolute shit. Saw the midnight opening show in HFR 3D. Being the extreme film snob I am, I immediately noticed it and it distracted me the entire time. It was like watching a sped-up film. Or when your TV isn't set right and the motions are too fast. I absolutely hated it and will never see another film in anything other than 24fps (or 23.97 :p)

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 12:44 AM
I think I might convert the first LOTR movie to 48fps.

Please.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 12:47 AM
anything other than 24fps (or 23.97 :p)

What if it's made in PAL countries?
UK TV is usually filmed in actual 25fps.
Blurays get 1080i/50.

hack3rman
08-12-2015, 12:56 AM
I almost wish the LOTR trilogy would get a 3D conversion theatrical re-release... but ONLY if the conversion is as good (Or close at least) to the 3D in the Hobbit trilogy.

DAKoftheOTA
08-12-2015, 01:00 AM
What if it's made in PAL countries?
UK TV is usually filmed in actual 25fps.
Blurays get 1080i/50.

I guess as long as it's not in 48fps and doesn't look unnatural (which The Hobbit totally did, to me) then I guess I'd give it a shot. But it just looked wrong. And not to mention the overall "look" of the film. The entire trilogy, to be exact. It's like they have this soft, glowing, vignette on them. Like a stupid instagram filter or something. Don't know if that has anything to do with how they were shot, but I hated that as well. Compare Hobbit with LotR and there's a huge difference. I wish they were made the same exact way.

I'm just glad HFR hasn't taken off like Peter Jackson hoped/thought it would. As long as movies are still put out in 24fps, I'll be happy.

hack3rman
08-12-2015, 01:03 AM
I'm just glad HFR hasn't taken off like Peter Jackson hoped/thought it would. As long as movies are still put out in 24fps, I'll be happy.

James Cameron is shooting the Avatar sequels in 60fps...

emptymetaljacket
08-12-2015, 01:06 AM
The Hobbit is best seen in the filmed 48fps and 3D, though.

I'm disagreeing with this and fervently so. First off, 3D at its current state is immensely detrimental to the cinematic detail and experience. All it does is make a blur of everything. Secondly, 48 FPS (and anything else absurdly and implausibly north of that) looks horrid - on anything. It's the idiot's "avant garde" and those having anything more than mere videophile "knowledge" will know that it is quite literally the stupidest way to exponentially inflate time and cost of production. Frame rates should be meddled with to help the visual narration of what is happening on-screen but an indiscriminate use of HFR, like Peter Jackson's for the Hobbit series, is pointless; he couldn't even justify his insistence for it with any other words besides "just because". I'm guessing he thought the success of LoTR was completely owed to the extravagance of its visual treatment.

DAKoftheOTA
08-12-2015, 01:13 AM
I'm disagreeing with this and fervently so. First off, 3D at its current state is immensely detrimental to the cinematic detail and experience. All it does is make a blur of everything. Secondly, 48 FPS (and anything else absurdly and implausibly north of that) looks horrid - on anything. It's the idiot's "avant garde" and those having anything more than mere videophile "knowledge" will know that it is quite literally the stupidest way to exponentially inflate time and cost of production. Frame rates should be meddled with to help the visual narration of what is happening on-screen but an indiscriminate use of HFR, like Peter Jackson's for the Hobbit series, is pointless; he couldn't even justify his insistence for it with any other words besides "just because". I'm guessing he thought the success of LoTR was completely owed to the extravagant of its visual treatment.

:this:


I'm disagreeing with this and fervently so. First off, 3D at its current state is immensely detrimental to the cinematic detail and experience. All it does is make a blur of everything.

When done properly and right (Avatar, TF3, Gravity, AoE), it can be amazing and completely immerse you in the film. I saw all 4 of those in 3D and they were the best 3D films I've seen yet. 3D should be more than dirt, swords and blood and guts flying in your face. There should be depth to make you feel as if you're there. The first time I felt this was the interior space ship scene in the beginning of Avatar when Jake wakes from his cryotube. That was definitely a "wow" moment to me. Latest film I saw in 3D was Fury Road and it sucked - because George Miller eventually went with the conversion route. I should've stuck with my gut and seen it in 2D.

Shad
08-12-2015, 01:18 AM
Wrastlin' the puss gator.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 01:21 AM
I almost wish the LOTR trilogy would get a 3D conversion theatrical re-release... but ONLY if the conversion is as good (Or close at least) to the 3D in the Hobbit trilogy.

It would take them years to get it to look good.
IMAX should step in as a 3D conversion powerhouse. Not just in-house conversions.
Teamed with some of the other leading 3D conversion powerhouses, it could look really good.

If they did this, I would go see TFOTR in theaters just to see how it turned out.

Jurassic Park was decent, but could have used more work.
IMO, I think for post-production conversions, those should be watched in real IMAX theaters, since their inhouse conversion also helps a lot.
The theater I went to, was really bad. It's an actual Cineplex theater with lots of revenue. Constantly busy on opening weeks.
The conversion was decent (not great) but I also was sitting in a bad seat at a bad angle.

My friend has an LG 3D SmartTV and it's own 3D conversion is really nice.
I've watched Star Trek Into Darkness IMAX (from the Compendium) in 3D at his place one time and it was really fun.
I dind't see the movie in theaters to compare how it's 3D was for theatrical release.
But the LG conversion was way better than what they did for Jurassic Park.



PJ always had that issue with his Tolkien films.
For the LOTR trilogy, there was either a blue or a green tint over the film.
There are some projects out there that try to make it more natural and flesh tone.

For The Hobbit, I noticed immediately the golden and bright overlay he had for them.
That was more distracting to me than the 48fps.

It's too shiny and "glamorous".
The RED EPIC cameras used for the movies had depleted colors at first; they had to over saturate the sets , costumes, and makeup .
However, the cameras were excellent for filming in 48fps and allowing dual-camera rigs (tight, compact) to film in 3D.
I think the one thing they couldn't really control is the natural light for outdoor scenes.
I notice the sun is the most annoying thing in the first film.
Come films 2 and 3, things got better with experience.

Here's a short youtube about the cameras used and what they had to do for filming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzidriniP6Y

I also notice with FHR, it's much easier to "see" the "Hollywood magic" (props, etc).
The thing about real hair vs. wigs is fascinating.

DAKoftheOTA
08-12-2015, 01:28 AM
For The Hobbit, I noticed immediately the golden and bright overlay he had for them.
That was more distracting to me than the 48fps.

It's too shiny and "glamorous".

Well I'm glad I'm not the first/only one to notice this.

Overall, due to both this "look" and HFR, I lost interest in the trilogy. I've seen all 3, don't really care for them. LotR>Hobbit. An Unexpected Journey is the only one I own, and I won't buy any more of them until Jackson is completely done (which I don't think will ever happen, he's constantly pulling a George Lucas on us) and releases what I'm tentatively calling "The Middle Earth Collection": every film available in every format with all special features. Until that day comes, not a penny of my money is going towards any of it.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 01:35 AM
First off, 3D at its current state is immensely detrimental to the cinematic detail and experience.

We went over this before.
If it's filmed for 3D, it's 3D with 3D details.
The Hobbit wasn't covnerted to 3D in post-production.

There is blur for the 24/3D version, as I've mentoined the difference is huge.
The motion blur in the 24 version looks like natural motion blur, as with any 24 film, 3D or not.

Between 24/3D and 48/3D, the HFR really did help translate the 3D process.


When done properly and right (Avatar, TF3, Gravity, AoE

As with before, filmed in 3D has a huge sucess over production houses that post-convert.

Except, Gravity wans't filmed in 3D.
It was 2D filmed with lots of CG, which is easy to covnert to 3D.
Just the non-greenscreen parts needed conversion. And that won't even put a dent in the process as the background/CG parts will take emphasis over the non-3D parts of the film.

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which I don't think will ever happen, he's constantly pulling a George Lucas on us

He only has the theatrical and extended editions to do, just like with the LOTR trilogy.
He suffered a heart attack taking over AUJ when Guillermo del Toro dropped out of directing.
He's not adding new details to existing Theatrical scenes.
it's just extended, theatrical scenes intact.

Lucas is an overstretch for a point.

If there are to be any more films about JRR Tolkien's Middle-Earth, I highly doubt PJ will return as director.
He might produce. But nothing extensive.

Electra
08-12-2015, 01:38 AM
Wrastlin' the puss gator.
Hopefully you'll think of me

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 01:49 AM
I just checked out SVP for myself.... Why have I not ever heard of this..
Anime and Game of Thrones.... Omg... perfect with SVP...

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 01:56 AM
One thing I will give though, it's not a Lucas thing, but it's a limitation on consumer end:

The only thing to top off sales is for the studios to release the original 48fps movie. (with/without 3D)

Probably as a digital format, if they can work it out.

Because current bluray format doesn't allow 48fps playback.
Maybe some telecining to 60fps (59.94).
But for 3D/48, it would be out of the question. The limitations on bluray spec is too limited.

I'm guessing the reason they don't sell digitally is that DRM would be an issue.
Windows Media Player supports DRM-protection but doesn't offer much else.
iTunes would just decimate the movie quality entirely and they don't offer any such super HD services.
A deal would have to be struck between WB and Apple for something to happen.
And most home consumers wouldn't know what to do or what they're getting into.
The market for it would be incredibly small.

UHD-BD ("UltraHD Blu-Ray") might be feasible for 48/2D.
But not 48/3D (48 left eye, 48 right eye = 96 fps total for one frame).
UHD-BD has a maximum support of 60fps. Not sure if it allows different framerates inbetween (like 48).

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I just checked out SVP for myself.... Why have I not ever heard of this..
Anime and Game of Thrones.... Omg... perfect with SVP...

The current version on that site, keep it archived and stored away somewhere.
When they start Version 4, it will be going "free" and "pro" versions.
Free will have limitations and the Pro will have loads of options.

The current 3.x version has a lot to offer, but they're saying the 4.x versions will offer a lot more.
Even more complex scripting (since it involves mvtools plugin) and options.

Plus, if you don't like the stable 4.x versions, you can easily downgrade back to 3.x versions.

DAKoftheOTA
08-12-2015, 02:00 AM
Adding lyrics to various songs in iTunes

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 02:01 AM
James Cameron is shooting the Avatar sequels in 60fps...

That would actually make it to bluray easier.
For 2D at least.

They would need to worka miracle to get 60fps/3D to home consumers.

It would mean a new format (again). Or a new dlivery system.
Perhaps 60fps/3D for digital sales, ala Sony box (4K digital downloads, harsh DRM protection and TOS agreement worse than Apple's).
For those with >=120Hz 3D TV's.

maybe a new machine that plays two discs at once?
Disc A: Left eye
Disc B: right eye

More shit to buy and learn how to hook up.

Or maybe the blurays (since they'll be around just as long as the new UHD-BD) will be 60i/3D (30 progressive).
Decimating frames in half is always easiest, that's what they did for the 24 Hobbit.

I'm curious about that one when it comes out.
Especially, the home consumer version.

If you think The Hobbit caused an uproar, wait until this reaches home.

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 02:07 AM
I donated the $10 for all free future releases. In your opinion, Spark, what are some good examples where interpolation works
really well movie-wise?I was thinking about Interstellar.. Would it be worth it to try Interpolation on that?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 02:35 AM
All this talk... I'm going to dig up a trailer to LOTR trilogy and give that a conversion to 48fps with SVP.

Actually... I should just remux the FOTR.
Trailers can alter video to make some scenes in slow motion when wasn't filmed in higher frame rates (at least 96fps; filmed in 96 played back in 24 gives slow motion).
I don't know what shenannigans the trailers did.

I just watched a trailer the other day where I saw the artifacts in it due to frame rate manipulation to get a slow motion scene just for the trailer.

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I donated the $10 for all free future releases. In your opinion, Spark, what are some good examples where interpolation works
really well movie-wise?I was thinking about Interstellar.. Would it be worth it to try Interpolation on that?

Newer movies, definitely.
Filmed in digital works nicer than filmed in film.
Because of film grain, you're likely to see more artifacts because of the calculations with mvtools.

If you have a decent graphics card, you can do older films nicely.

Make sure in SVP, you have "Interface type" set to "expert".
And "GPU-acceleration (Open-CL)" enabled. It should be enabled by default if you have a decent GPU supported for it.

I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 750ti and a 3.x Ghz processor with 4 solid cores.
4 cores with no Hyper-Threading.
Not 2 cores with Hyper-Threading either.
It helps a lot with more solid cores than virtual cores.

Interstellar:
I converted "going through the wormhole" scene into 60fps and it looks great.
Nolan's work translates very welll.

Inception:
Slow motion scenes will work the best, since they're filmed in higher frame rate and played back in slow rates, so there are way more details in the motion compared to filmed in 24 played back at 24.
The slow motion scenes in Inception are awesome.



Here's a project I did to illustrate: Slow Motion Test
You will need Google Chrome to view in the higher frame rates.

Godzilla (2014), opening titles, nuclear explosion.
0:15 seconds worth.
I used SVP to create profiles (after testing different settings) for conversion to "59" (59.95 (60000/1001) for NTSC).

23fps ("23" for 23.976 (24000/1001)) played back in 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7xyPpWEwMs

59fps played back in 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUk8fkZM1Ng

59 played back in 59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnFjbKsuzxY

599 played back in 59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxqabdMIzw

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I'll remux a slow motion scene from Inception and do the same.

Test 1 shows 24fps filmed details.
Slowing it down illustrates everything you see when you play back in 59.
Playing back at 59, you might miss something.
So I made the 599 version to give you enough time to see everything on-screen that you might miss playing back at 59.

If you can follow what I mean. :laugh:

Test 2 will show slow motion scenes in SVP@59.

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Gah, I hate watching on youtube.
For some reason "stats for nerds" shows a lot of dropped frames.

Youtube is just not a powerful vehicle for video delivery like it used to.


I'll uplaod the Godzilla samples (if I still have them).

The Interstellar clip I did is still in lossless video format (UtVideo).
It's about 5-6 minutes long, 1080p, 59fps, so it's about 10GB right now. :laugh:
I'll convert it to AVC/H264 and up that too.

Uploads should be ready tomorrow or the day after.

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 02:46 AM
How do you save remuxed videos with SVP and do higher frame rates (like 599)?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 03:01 AM
Firefox updated to 40.0 and now it plays back HFR youtube videos.
(http://imgur.com/BjpHlPl)

Only dropped frames where when the video started, buffered, etc.
Momentary lapse. After that, it smoothed out until end.
WAY BETTER THAN CHROME!


How do you save remuxed videos with SVP and do higher frame rates (like 599)?

Well,
(http://imgur.com/kBwx3Zg)

And then pipe the script to x264.
The script is an Avisynth script, so there's no remuxing involved.
But you can't save the movie in interpolated fps as a remux.
It needs to be encoded.

avs4x26x (http://tmod.nmm-hd.org/avs4x26x/): to pipe svp_script.avs to x264 (http://komisar.gin.by/).exe to get movie.mkv

Shad
08-12-2015, 03:02 AM
Hopefully you'll think of me

Sully is always on my mind.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 03:03 AM
luls. black screen.

It's transparent really.
Play a movie in the background and then look at the picture.
If you got "Aero" and other crap enabeld lol.

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 03:24 AM
Thanks for the help Spark! Naruto looks really nice at 71 fps lol (3x target frame rate)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-12-2015, 03:43 AM
Thanks for the help Spark! Naruto looks really nice at 71 fps lol (3x target frame rate)

Check out this page for watching anime: Watching anime - SmoothVideo Project (SVP) - frame doubling interpolation (http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Watching_anime)

Just a note, if you watch any 10bit anime conversions, it will be dithered down to 8bit.
Avisynth doesn't natively support >8bit.
There are plugins but they are not meant for watching live playback.

I don't know exactly the dither algorithm used.
Maybe truncated, it's fastest.
(not that you will actually notice this truncation; it's not native 10bit video so difference will be marginal)

Even if you use:
MPC-HC
LAV Video (P010 enabled)
FFShow (P010 enabled) <---- this is where 10bit gets converted to 8bit
MadVR (10bit; exclusive; D3D_11; etc),

The process chain will go:
10bit ---> 8bit ---> 10bit (then ----> 8bit again as most home consumers have 7-8bit monitors; actual 10bit monitors are rare and expensive).

Then again, even if you have an actual 10bit monitor, you're not going to see real differences.
Real world applications is not really worth it to the human eye.
It's only good for video/photo editing so you see actual data and not dithered data due to hardware/software limitations.
And, we're talking raw formats, not demuxed bluray elementary streams (as they are encoded from studio masters; which are losslessly encoded from raw elementary streams from the cameras; rarely printed film these days digitally transferred to renders).

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 07:19 AM
Made my own end credits music rip of Interstellar while I finished watching it just now.

ManRay
08-12-2015, 10:32 AM
Reading Comics, at the moment :





Highly Entertaining...

James P.Sullivan
08-12-2015, 10:50 AM
Looks charming.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 11:05 AM
One of the guys from the Supernatural TV Show, link (); trying to hone my skills with shades/hues.

You Drew That Picture Of Dean (Jensen Ackles)?? Man That Is Super It Looks Great!!!

James P.Sullivan
08-12-2015, 11:16 AM
I don't know who Jensen Ackles is, but it has a Tom Hardy vibe to it... :D

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 11:19 AM
I don't know who Jensen Ackles is, but it has a Tom Hardy vibe to it... :D

Jensan Ackles Is The Actor In The TV Series Supernatural And A Few Other Shows And Films. I Like Him In It And His Short Performance In Dark Angel And Smallville.

Most Of My Rcent Mr Gold/Rumpelstiltskin Avatars Have Been Fan Art. I Like the Fan Art Of Movie/TV Characters It Shows The Love of the Show And Films They Appear. I Wish I Could Draw Like That. I Would Love to Make My Own Art of Him To Use As Avatars :(

Leon Scott Kennedy
08-12-2015, 11:53 AM
You Drew That Picture Of Dean (Jensen Ackles)?? Man That Is Super It Looks Great!!!
Yeah, thanks for the compliment. I'm not entirely satisfied with how it turned out, but it could have been worse.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 11:55 AM
Really? Why I Think It Looks Good You Can Defently Tell Its Him :D

Leon Scott Kennedy
08-12-2015, 11:57 AM
Some of the shading seems out of place to me.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 12:03 PM
Hmm, I Donno. But I Am Not An Artist LOL. But It Looks Okay To Me. :)

TheSkeletonMan939
08-12-2015, 12:24 PM
Some of the shading seems out of place to me.

The only glaring shading issue I see is right above the nostril. I think the shading there is a tad too heavy; if you were to tone it down a little in that spot it might look better.

But otherwise it looks fantastic to me, amazing work.

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 01:11 PM
Drawing fan art.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 04:02 PM
Going to Pic Up A Box Of Disney CDs My Mum Picked Up At Work Today, So As To Rip Into Higher Quality Plus I Have More Disney Goodies Found on the Net To Add to Itunes :awsm:

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 04:48 PM
My account will say I'm online but I'll be away. Thought I'd just let everyone know.

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 06:33 PM
I'm cutting old ties, and moving on with my life. Also waiting for a friend to come over to hangout.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 07:16 PM
Compiling The New HOTEL NEW YORK Background Playlist At Disneyland Paris

Zoran
08-12-2015, 07:48 PM
Relaxing after exorcising my tricep muscles.

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 08:33 PM
My friend decided she wanted to be lazy so now I'm just going to lay in bed until 5pm when I have to go to work.

Killgrave
08-12-2015, 09:16 PM
Relaxing after exorcising my tricep muscles.

Your triceps were possessed by demonic forces? Who was the exorcist: Richard Simmons?

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 09:18 PM
Your triceps were possessed by demonic forces? Who was the exorcist: Richard Simmons?

James Woods!

(Scary Movie 2) :awsm:

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 09:22 PM
Making food.

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 09:25 PM
What food?

Zoran
08-12-2015, 09:27 PM
Your triceps were possessed by demonic forces? Who was the exorcist: Richard Simmons?

Haha...As I have mentioned a few times I injured my elbow three weeks ago. The prognosis was a bone spur on the olecranon bone and a rip in my tricep muscle.

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 09:28 PM
Haha...As I have mentioned a few times I injured my elbow three weeks ago.

May I ask how?

---

Ouch Zoran... A rip in the muscle?!

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 09:32 PM
What food?

A bagel with chicken and cheese broiled in the oven at High temp. Just something simple..

Zoran
08-12-2015, 09:38 PM
May I ask how?

---

Ouch Zoran... A rip in the muscle?!

A stupid thing really, I was pulling up two dead bushes and planting two new replacements when I hit a rock with the shovel and felt a tremendous jarring pain go up my arm.

James P.Sullivan
08-12-2015, 09:49 PM
Ow.

Killgrave
08-12-2015, 09:54 PM
A stupid thing really, I was pulling up two dead bushes and planting two new replacements when I hit a rock with the shovel and felt a tremendous jarring pain go up my arm.

Sometimes its the little things that cause the most injury.

---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:53 PM ----------


James Woods!

(Scary Movie 2) :awsm:

What, no comment appropriate gif?

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 09:58 PM
What, no comment appropriate gif?
Nope. Peter Griffin has something to say though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRZcirkhiQ

AberZombi&Flesh
08-12-2015, 09:58 PM
Uploading more bootlegs to mega. :)

Aside..I've not watched cable tv since Desperate Housewives was new. Can't say I miss it either.. so, when y'all mention characters/shows..I've no clue.

I'm kinda ok with it too. :awsm:

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 10:00 PM
Uploading more bootlegs to mega. :)

Uploading... Gah, I always hate it.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 10:00 PM
What, no comment appropriate gif?

Not Doing Gifs Anymore, This Will Be The Last.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/98c8bf6adaa42187184a03ecd5ec9674/tumblr_mfi950mZjp1rp0vkjo1_400.gif

AberZombi&Flesh
08-12-2015, 10:04 PM
Your mother sucks cocks in HELL!

The best line ever..and I quote it all the ephin time. :P

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 10:05 PM
Your mother sucks cocks in HELL!

The best line ever..and I quote it all the ephin time. :P
Suck on this!

AberZombi&Flesh
08-12-2015, 10:07 PM
I was gonna post in the spaghetti lossless thread, but I discovered all my files were penne rigate lossless.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-12-2015, 10:25 PM
Going To Bed, Reallt To Depressed to Be Any Sort of Good Company At The Moment. Good Night.

Azetlor
08-12-2015, 10:32 PM
Going To Bed, Reallt To Depressed to Be Any Sort of Good Company At The Moment. Good Night.

Night. Feel better soon.

Momonoki
08-12-2015, 10:54 PM
Looking for Flac of Japan Break Industries REMIX.

emptymetaljacket
08-13-2015, 12:03 AM
I finally finished working on another cover.
Yay, my will-be second contribution to this forum :D.

I almost lost my sanity over this one because
1. the source material was, in my opinion, quite ugly hence unusable for my intents and purposes and, being relatively old, accessible promo material was scarce;
2. the film was so bad the only worthy screencap I could find was of the freeze-frame ending;
3. I'm also really unsatisfied with the title font because I couldn't find anything better than Cinzel (the "llusionist" portion from my The Illusionist cover (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/official-custom-covers-thread-90457/338.html#post3028416) - yes, that was a wholesomely shameless plug).

If anyone has any ideas to improve, I am totally receptive and looking forward to them. I think the final result is, though generic, kinda neat and a slight improvement on the original that had not only way too much stuff going on but... inexplicable shapes decorating I don't know what. I'll be posting it tomorrow morning (GMT, bitchez http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool14.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)) and hope Horner fans will appreciate.


Peace out

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/nothingtoadd.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Shad
08-13-2015, 12:06 AM
Awakening the timid unicorn.

Azetlor
08-13-2015, 12:27 AM
That's right, get it hard.

( ͡� ͜ʖ ͡�)

Shad
08-13-2015, 04:38 AM
Unicorns are actually quite supple beasts.

Killgrave
08-13-2015, 06:12 AM
And tasty too.

DAKoftheOTA
08-13-2015, 06:17 AM
Slicing up some fresh mozzarella while staring at my street through the kitchen window. Blackness.

James P.Sullivan
08-13-2015, 06:52 AM
About to get in the shower. Here comes another day. Looks like we might be getting some thunder later. I frickin well hope so.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-13-2015, 07:34 AM
having fun playing with Avisynth... :)

Buffy, 2 episodes at once:
(http://imgur.com/YJzz5em)

Buffy, 3 episodes at once:
(http://imgur.com/2Nw8a1u)

V For Vendetta (normal):
http://zippy.gfycat.com/PoshUnacceptableDogwoodtwigborer.gif (https://gfycat.com/PoshUnacceptableDogwoodtwigborer)

V For Vendetta (rippled):
http://zippy.gfycat.com/EmptyUncommonBustard.gif (https://gfycat.com/EmptyUncommonBustard)

James (The Disney Guy)
08-13-2015, 09:15 AM
Reading Last Nights Activities, Not Really In A Socialisng Mood, So Just Gonna Down A Couple Of Things, Then Maybe Log Off.

DAKoftheOTA
08-13-2015, 07:49 PM
Starting my Complete/Film Mix (a combination of both) edit of The Spectacular Now. Should be fairly easy. Fingers crossed.

Lockdown
08-13-2015, 07:53 PM
Starting my Complete/Film Mix (a combination of both) edit of The Spectacular Now. Should be fairly easy. Fingers crossed.
Will you include the songs (source cues), like you did with your Oblivion edit?

DAKoftheOTA
08-13-2015, 08:02 PM
Will you include the songs (source cues), like you did with your Oblivion edit?

Nah. ONLY Phosphorescent's Song for Zula, which is also used in TASM2. But it was used in TSN first ;)

James (The Disney Guy)
08-13-2015, 08:26 PM
So did you give up with the island dak? Or is it shelved for another occasion?

DAKoftheOTA
08-13-2015, 08:29 PM
So did you give up with the island dak? Or is it shelved for another occasion?

Shelved. That's not a passion project, the score isn't as close to my heart as The Spectacular Now

James (The Disney Guy)
08-13-2015, 08:30 PM
Shelved. That's not a passion project, the score isn't as close to my heart as The Spectacular Now

I get that lol. Bu shelved i mean like with disney. Were they put a project on the shelf and return later.

I have never heard of spectacular now. I may have to at some point.

DAKoftheOTA
08-13-2015, 08:31 PM
I get that lol. Bu shelved i mean like with disney. Were they put a project on the shelf and return later.

I have never heard of spectacular now. I may have to at some point.

Shelved as in "I'll get back to it later, after some more important things are taken care of". It's not going anywhere, I'll post it eventually.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-13-2015, 09:22 PM
Was Watching a film, but decided to go to bed. Laued here with my tablet on shuffle. Today has been a hard day. Sorry for going on, tbh no one gives a shit. I will shut up now.

James P.Sullivan
08-13-2015, 09:34 PM
What film was it?

James (The Disney Guy)
08-13-2015, 09:35 PM
What film was it?

Ed Wood.

theone2000
08-13-2015, 09:42 PM
If you really want to know, I believe masturbation is an inappropriate use of God's gift of sexual pleasure. I believe we should be patient and wait until marriage to satisfy our God-given sexual desires. Sex was created by God for the union of man and woman, and to take the pleasure of it out of it's proper context is impatient and wrong.

Again, I'm not saying I don't do it. But by God's strength I try not to. But it's difficult, I won't deny that! :p


You have to find it in yourself to resist the charms of Rosie Palm and her five sisters. And stay away from those left-handed web-sites. :)

James (The Disney Guy)
08-13-2015, 09:48 PM
Goodbye.

Electra
08-13-2015, 09:54 PM
cya

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 12:21 AM
Using AviSynth to do some interpolation magic and render videos at 60fps. Overall it looks a little too weird, but certain sequences look amazing.

One thing I think would be cool to do is use that method on all the non-Earth scenes in Interstellar after they go through the wormhole - like the Wizard of Oz turning into a color film once Dorothy goes to Oz.

emptymetaljacket
08-14-2015, 12:34 AM
Starting my Complete/Film Mix (a combination of both) edit of The Spectacular Now. Should be fairly easy. Fingers crossed.

I think I will love you for this.

DAKoftheOTA
08-14-2015, 12:41 AM
Making a fire in the backyard. Not to worry, in the fire pit. It's a little cool out, so it's a good night for one.


I think I will love you for this.

;)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 12:43 AM
One thing I think would be cool to do is use that method on all the non-Earth scenes in Interstellar after they go through the wormhole - like the Wizard of Oz turning into a color film once Dorothy goes to Oz.

Oz the Great and Powerful has some really fun scenes.
When flying through the storm to get there is really neat.
Plus the continuous shot when they're running away from the evil flying ape, when the camera follows behind them and swoops with them is awesome.

Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows

Shad
08-14-2015, 01:44 AM
Milking the speckled crow.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:02 AM
Milking the speckled crow.

Yep, masturbating.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 02:08 AM
Actually all of Days of Future Past looks great in SVP.
Not just the kitchen scene.

Going double the rate will keep it smooth and reduce artifacts, too.
24 goes to 48, 25 goes to 50.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:11 AM
How many frames are the Jurassic Park films recorded at?

Lockdown
08-14-2015, 02:20 AM
I've been cleaning my room for about 2 hours and not even half way done. :/

I found a bible verse card from a church dated 2007, and a ticket to see 'The Dark Knight Rises' dated back August 24th, 2012..guess I haven't cleaned my room in a while.

Reasoning: Graduation party coming up.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 02:55 AM
How many frames are the Jurassic Park films recorded at?

24 frames per second (FPS)

but for NTSC (Canada, USA, Japan) home mediums, the video is converted to 23.976.

NTSC Bluray: 23.976
NSTC DVD: 23.976 but with "3:2 pulldown" applied to achieve 29.97.

PAL bluray: 24fps
PAL DVD: converted to 25fps (old movies might scale the audio without fixing pitch so the audio gets ruined)

---------- Post added at 06:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:21 PM ----------


Reasoning: Graduation party coming up.

Might I suggest finding oldschool songs to get the party started.
90's hiphop hits are always a riot.

:erm: or not.
I really loved that bit in Pitch Perfect 2 about the 90's pop songs

---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------

NTSC TV's (older, "CRT" with bulbs and tubes in the back, the really heavy ones) run at 59.94 (60,000 / 1001).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC#Lines_and_refresh_rate

That's mostly SD content back in the 90's and going as far back as the Stone Age. :laugh:

Today, with all new TV's being HD and digital (you can view older, heavier CRT TV's as analogue), there's no real reason to worry about frame rates.
LCD, Plasma, OLED, Smart TV's, etc etc etc can run 25fps content without problems.

On older TV's, playing 25fps on NTSC TV would cause visual flicker to the point where you can't watch it.

It gets very technical, the further into the past you go.

If you have a TV that's post-2008, you should be fine.
It's just the disc machines themselves you have to worry about.
Importing a bluray from another country, you have to make sure the disc is "Region Free" or your bluray machine is "unlocked".
Or decrypt it with computer and playback from various ways: PC to TV (via HDMI), external HDD/USBthumbdrive, stream, etc.

Shad
08-14-2015, 03:19 AM
Yep, masturbating.

Why are so many of you obsessed with randomly mentioning masturbation any time I post?

Lockdown
08-14-2015, 04:32 AM
We just love masturbating.

Shad
08-14-2015, 06:19 AM
I see. Well, it is a healthy activity in moderation. If you begin to develop sores do see a medical professional.

Lockdown
08-14-2015, 06:21 AM
Thanks for looking out for me :)

But, I don't do it to an extent where that has ever happened.

DAKoftheOTA
08-14-2015, 06:37 AM
But, I don't do it to an extent where that has ever happened.

Apparently you've never done it (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/what-you-doing-188411/106.html#post3027757)

This only further proves I was right in the fact that everybody does it, even James P. Sullivan :p

Lockdown
08-14-2015, 06:39 AM
Apparently you've never done it (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/what-you-doing-188411/106.html#post3027757)

This only further proves I was right in the fact that everybody does it, even James P. Sullivan :p


It's not like you're some scientist with your discovery, any normal person would know that everyone does/has done this.

DAKoftheOTA
08-14-2015, 06:43 AM
Mmm hmm

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 07:27 AM
I like to use body paint.

My hand a copper/bobby/officer and it the bandit.
It's a fight to the death.

CRIME DOESN'T PAY!
(just once a day, maybe twice...if you wait half an hour)

Zoran
08-14-2015, 12:21 PM
Organizing my music collection. (unpacking and tagging)

Leon Scott Kennedy
08-14-2015, 12:42 PM
Right now I'm cursing: MEGA finally switched to the mega.nz domain on my end, too (still had the old layout and mega.co.nz working this morning). My God, it loads a lot slower for me now, does anyone know if they fixed the Firefox add-on? It used to freeze both my uploads and downloads, but I can barely use MEGA in this "condition", that's pretty much my last hope.

EDIT: Situation has seemingly improved a bit.

emptymetaljacket
08-14-2015, 02:30 PM
I like to use body paint. My hand a copper/bobby/officer and it the bandit. It's a fight to the death. CRIME DOESN'T PAY!

Ummm... you're easily the most twisted mind on here. Easily.

On a different note, I'm surprised nobody took the opportunity to make a "money shot" pun.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:35 PM
Looking through the website code to see if I can find the MP3 song files for ah2music.com - can't find it anywhere! Where is it all kept?

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 02:38 PM
Looking through the website code to see if I can find the MP3 song files for ah2music.com - can't find it anywhere! Where is it all kept?

Are you trying to download a streaming music file?

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:40 PM
Are you trying to download a streaming music file?

Go to ah2music.com and you'll see what I mean.
Perhaps it's hidden somewhere in the player.

Edit: Nope. Ripped open the player code - nothing.


TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 02:44 PM
No, don't waste your time trying to find the MP3 file URL.

Download FireFox and install this addon (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Us/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/).

It detects when a music file is playing and rips it for you. The original file, no transcoding. Has saved me a lot of trouble in the past.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:45 PM
Alright, thank you.

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 02:45 PM
Go to ah2music.com and you'll see what I mean.
Perhaps it's hidden somewhere in the player.

Edit: Nope. Ripped open the player code - nothing.



Are not all the samples on that site limited to 1 minute or something?

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:47 PM
Are not all the samples on that site limited to 1 minute or something?

Hm... 45 seconds...
Why am I even bothering? I've got Getty Images RIGHT THERE. xD

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 02:52 PM
I've got Getty Images RIGHT THERE. xD

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3868727-confused+yo.gif

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 02:56 PM
Why am I even bothering? I've got Getty Images RIGHT THERE. xD

http://i.imgur.com/8HkjFrq.gif

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 02:59 PM
I got the same addon for Chrome. Works like a charm. Thanks.

Getty Images has ALL of AH2's songs in full length, all variations (Drums, NoBass, etc.)

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 03:30 PM
Never knew there was a Chrome version. Cool, that makes my life that much easier.

---------- Post added at 10:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:02 AM ----------

Looking at this image right now.

Notice anything interesting in the bottom right?



I think it's a mistake, but wouldn't it be neat to have an Atmos mix for the film?

I'd like to pop open the hood of an Atmos mix and see how all the different sound elements are separated, but I don't think Audacity, or any audio editing program, has the capability to import it right now. Even with the FFMPEG plugin.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 03:36 PM
God I wish I could remove that stupid "Premiumbeat Dot Com" dialogue from Premiumbeat songs.

Lockdown
08-14-2015, 03:36 PM
Or just illegally download songs.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 03:37 PM
Or just illegally download songs.

Heh. I would but they're nowhere to be seen.

Lockdown
08-14-2015, 03:38 PM
Heh. I would but they're nowhere to be seen.
Send me a PM of what songs you're looking for, I'll take a look around.

Shad
08-14-2015, 03:39 PM
Twiddling the bo jangles.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 03:41 PM
Twiddling the bo jangles.

^ True Love, The Most Powerful Magic Of All hehahaha

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 03:51 PM
Atmos

Actual Atmos data cannot be used on PC or anything except an Atmos receiver.
Trying to split actual Atmos into separate WAV files for each channel wouldn't work at all.
It's entirely different format with no conventional setup since you can have 7.1, 11.1, 11.2 and other channel setups.

Decoding Atmos with eac3to or ffmpeg, you get regular 7.1 audio.
Most of the sound effects will be mixed for discreet, dynamic 7.1.
The score will get discreet, dynamic 7.1, too.
But commercial music not made for the film will be horribly upscaled. Just like half the end credits to John Wick.

That's a custom cover. The specifications list 5.1 DTS-HD MA while Atmos is explicity hosted on 7.1 TrueHD.
Also, Nolan explicity works in 5.1 only. He's not into modern technology like 7.1, 3D, or high frame rate.

Speaking of Atmos,

Mad Max is in Atmos/TrueHD 7.1.
Incredibly nice mix.
I don't have Atmos reciever, but ripping the 7.1, it shows up so pretty.
It sounds interesting using different things like Dolby Headphone, Bauer crossfeed, J. Meier crossfeed, and ambiophonic DSP.
I think the Ambiophonic dsp works best to simulate surround sound through headphones.

mboy114
08-14-2015, 03:54 PM
Watching Bates Motel

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 04:02 PM
Decoding Atmos with eac3to or ffmpeg, you get regular 7.1 audio.

But what about extracting the separate sound objects? Is that feasible yet?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 04:06 PM
I should add that it's not a matter of backwards engineering the codec to get the audio.

The 7.1 audio being used for the Atmos extension is very discreet and super nice.
It's true 7.1 audio.

Atmos is more math than an actual audio stream.
It more or less mathematically tells Atmos recievers how to bounce the audio around using the 7.1 stream to get that magical Atmos experience.

The TrueHD streams on Atmos blurays is the same typical size as any other TrueHD stream out there.
So we can induce that there aren't two-in-one streams where one is Atmos and the other is TrueHD.

To shed more light on the subject, the patches that everyone uses to read the TrueHD audio and not the Atmos "audio" works by skipping a few bytes of info in the header.
Maybe a megabyte, but not like 3-5GB or anything.

Another trait I notice with Atmos streams is that when you decode it to another format, you will always see that it has an average bit depth of 20 or 21 in different channels.


eac3to v3.29
command line: eac3to "MadMax-EndCredits.mka" "MadMax-EndCredits.flac"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MKA, 1 audio track, 0:07:18
1: FLAC, 7.1 channels, 2:00:23, 24 bits, 48kHz
Track 1 is used for destination file "MadMax-EndCredits.flac".
[a01] Extracting audio track number 1...
[a01] Decoding FLAC...
[a01] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a01] Creating file "MadMax-EndCredits.flac"...
[a01] Original audio track, L+R+C+BL+BR+SR: max 24 bits, average 20 bits.
[a01] Original audio track, LFE: constant bit depth of 20 bits.
[a01] Original audio track, SL: constant bit depth of 21 bits.
eac3to processing took 23 seconds.
Done.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 04:10 PM
So it doesn't store all the sound elements separately (like stems would), it just moves the (very) discreet TrueHD mix around to all those extra speakers. Is that what you mean?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 04:12 PM
But what about extracting the separate sound objects? Is that feasible yet?

No.
That's part of the "magic" on the reciever end.

To get down to a replicated version of Atmos on PC, you would need to buy out the documentation (specifications, white papers, etc) and even the SDK (Software Development Kits) from Dolby.
And no developer for any program can afford those.

The best anyone can do PC-side is bit-stream to an Atmos-ready receiver.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 04:18 PM
... I know less about Atmos than I thought I did. :p

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 04:18 PM
So it doesn't store all the sound elements separately (like stems would), it just moves the (very) discreet TrueHD mix around to all those extra speakers. Is that what you mean?

From the looks of it, no.
Bluray-side, at least.

Bluray spec wouldn't be able to support "True Atmos" technology what theaters have.

On RuTracker, they have a Dolby Atmos demo video from DCP or something (theater file).
The stream was a 11 channel audio stream.
Which could not be played back properly.
That internal channel layout was completely out of whack.

Some channels were even blank. Not LFE or anything, but just total blank and empty.

I ended downmixing (incorrectly due to severe lack of compatible channels) to get a 5.1 mix.
There's enough to make a 7.1 but it wouldn't match any compatible 7.1 layouts. :erm:

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 04:37 PM
Making Custom Covers, Quite Bored Really LOL Maybe Some More Interesting Titles To Choose.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-14-2015, 04:51 PM
does anyone know if they fixed the Firefox add-on?/QUOTE]

I'm using the latest version in Firefox and Firefox is also updated to latest version, too.
Try resetting your TCP/IP settings?

CMD:

netsh int ip reset all

Double check your TCP/IP is optimal?
SpeedGuide TCP/IP Analyzer (http://www.speedguide.net/sg_tools.php)


[QUOTE=emptymetaljacket;3030673]"money shot" pun.

QFP.

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 04:57 PM
Waiting for a bus, sucking a mint (extra strong), listening to The Help by Thomas Newman. Again.

The weather is utterly miserable right now. My least favourite of all weathers. Solid light-grey sky and constant rain. :p

And here's the bus! :D

DAKoftheOTA
08-14-2015, 05:11 PM
Waiting for a bus, sucking a mint (extra strong), listening to The Help by Thomas Newman. Again.

The weather is utterly miserable right now. My least favourite of all weathers. Solid light-grey sky and constant rain. :p

And here's the bus! :D

Don't own a car yet? You at least drive, right?

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 07:16 PM
Sitting At The Balcony Watching The Rain, Whilst Doing A Jigsaw Puzzle With Nice Warm Caramel Latte.

Azetlor
08-14-2015, 07:27 PM
Wishing that my parents could go away. I'd sit down, put the radiators on (we dont have a fire...), get my Laptop, get a nice warm bowl of rice pudding and jam, a lovely hot chocolate with puffy marshmalllow, stick my feet up, get a blanket and stick a movie on. Oh, bliss!

RathianJazz
08-14-2015, 07:45 PM
Thinking about what to cook

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 10:38 PM
Don't own a car yet? You at least drive, right?

Nope - I could have been driving for a few years already, but the insurance is too expensive. Besides, I have no real need for a car at present. However, in 3 years, yes.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 10:55 PM
Logging Off The PC, And Getting Into Bed. So On Mobile.

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 11:07 PM
Just shut my MacBook lid, and getting ready for bed. So on iPod. ;)

Killgrave
08-14-2015, 11:08 PM
Preparing salad for tonight's dinner: lettuce, tomatoes, green and yellow peppers, sweet onions and a balsamic dressing.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 11:09 PM
Preparing salad for tonight's dinner: lettuce, tomatoes, green and yellow peppers, sweet onions and a balsamic dressing.
OOO Lovely. Hmm. Yes.

Killgrave
08-14-2015, 11:11 PM
Nope - I could have been driving for a few years already, but the insurance is too expensive. Besides, I have no real need for a car at present. However, in 3 years, yes.

I've heard the insurance rates in Monstropolis are killer. Of course, when you have drivers like Mike . . . .

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 11:13 PM
I've heard the insurance rates in Monstropolis are killer. Of course, when you have drivers like Mike . . . .

https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lymsmhbyGq1qm6oc3o1_250.gif

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 11:21 PM
https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lymsmhbyGq1qm6oc3o1_250.gif

We try to forget this^ incidence right here, Mike and I do.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 11:23 PM
We try to forget this^ incidence right here, Mike and I do.

I Donno About Mike, He Was Really Proud of the 6 Wheel Drive.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-14-2015, 11:41 PM
Desperate for another latte. This will keep me up all night lol.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-14-2015, 11:50 PM
LOL, Mega's gone to shit.

Kim Dotcom agrees with you.

I wonder where Mega will be in a year.

James P.Sullivan
08-14-2015, 11:55 PM
I Donno About Mike, He Was Really Proud of the 6 Wheel Drive.

Emphasis on the was. Remember what happened after I shut him under the hood and he chucked me out?

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-15-2015, 12:01 AM
I remember reading that in article article.

They got such limited plans.
(http://imgur.com/u22b3Y4)

DAKoftheOTA
08-15-2015, 02:26 AM
Laughing over the huge fail in the new MJ poster:



cunt

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-15-2015, 02:50 AM
2004:
(http://imgur.com/LHjKQo7)

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Plus, I'm sure there's some older movies involving aboriginals of different countries that war red face paint for a movie poster.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-15-2015, 06:42 AM
Been Up Nearly 2hrs Just Finished A Heck Load of Spider-Man Custom Covers :p Now Having A Drink And Reading The Paper.

James P.Sullivan
08-15-2015, 08:01 AM

ROKUSHO
08-15-2015, 04:04 PM
thinking of my next multi-image story.
already did a gorilla x female story. should i do the cliched alien invasion (ala invasion of the body snatchers) or sex zombie apocalypse? man, this kept me up all night. i havent slept yet. (its 8 am right now. aside from saturday morning cartoons back in my childhood, IM NEVER AWAKE AT THIS HOUR ON WEEKENDS).

hack3rman
08-15-2015, 04:13 PM


The Help!

And I'm currently trying to finish Season 1 of Goof Troop.

ManRay
08-15-2015, 04:50 PM
Reading, alternating between

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/NeedfulThingsBookCover.JPG

&

https://gabbinggeek2.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/200px-robert_rankin_-_the_hollow_chocolate_bunnies_of_the_apocalypse.jp g

Shad
08-15-2015, 06:36 PM
Pecking the pickled pepper.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-15-2015, 06:41 PM
Boy it is quiet here today lol.

hack3rman
08-15-2015, 07:13 PM
Listening to The Legacy Collection: Toy Story while working on another Disney related set I hope to post sometime today...

DAKoftheOTA
08-15-2015, 07:25 PM


Looks like you've got a 17-incher, just like me. I NEVER keep any liquids that close to mine, though. You crazay.

Sometimes I hate how big it is. My brother has a 13" and it's nice and small. Good size. Mine is big and heavy - but at the same time I needed a larger screen so I can be working in Final Cut and Audition simultaneously. They take up the entire screen.

James P.Sullivan
08-15-2015, 07:38 PM
Looks like you've got a 17-incher, just like me. I NEVER keep any liquids that close to mine, though. You crazay.

Sometimes I hate how big it is. My brother has a 13" and it's nice and small. Good size. Mine is big and heavy - but at the same time I needed a larger screen so I can be working in Final Cut and Audition simultaneously. They take up the entire screen.

Nope.



The major difference is that on the 17-incher the speakers are on either side of the keyboard instead of underneath it. So I'm guessing that's what yours is.

I find mine is ok with video editing software and Audacity (although bigger never hurt anybody). I'll be working on huge iMacs for editing at uni, and I'm really looking forward to that. :D

And I'm careful with liquids. ;)

DAKoftheOTA
08-15-2015, 07:48 PM
Ahh yes, I see now. Yeah I like that my speakers are on the side. Better sound imo.

Why are you still on 10.10.4? Didn't update to 10.10.5 yet. What about iOS 8.4.1 or iTunes 12.2.2?

Momonoki
08-15-2015, 07:54 PM
Canadian MSP is trying to screw me over by charging me money I do not and never will owe them, So, resolving that right now.
Also, getting ready to head to work. Last shift before I go on Vacation, woohoo.

DAKoftheOTA
08-15-2015, 08:26 PM
Last shift before I go on Vacation, woohoo.

This coming Wednesday is my last shift before I go on vacation. My body is ready. Seriously, I do a lot of physical work for the stick figure that I am. I actually kinda have biceps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t20E2nvcZF8) now :p

hack3rman
08-15-2015, 08:35 PM
This coming Wednesday is my last shift before I go on vacation. My body is ready.

This coming Friday is my last shift before I go on vacation... What a coincidence!

DAKoftheOTA
08-15-2015, 09:53 PM


Here's my work station. It's also as close as any liquid EVER gets to my Mac ;)


theone2000
08-15-2015, 09:56 PM



Orange Mocha Frappuccino!!!!!!!

James P.Sullivan
08-15-2015, 10:21 PM
Ahh yes, I see now. Yeah I like that my speakers are on the side. Better sound imo.

Why are you still on 10.10.4? Didn't update to 10.10.5 yet. What about iOS 8.4.1 or iTunes 12.2.2?

I have iTunes 12.2.2.25

Is iOS 8.4.1 worth it?

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Here's my work station. It's also as close as any liquid EVER gets to my Mac ;)



Haha that wasn't my work station - that was Costa Coffee. :p

Very neat and tidy. I'm impressed.

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Orange Mocha Frappuccino!!!!!!!

Nope, sorry - medium drink-in hot chocolate with cream. :p

DAKoftheOTA
08-15-2015, 10:23 PM
I have iTunes 12.2.2.25

Is iOS 8.4.1 worth it?

It fixed up a few things, like that whole Apple Music/iCloud Music Library/album artwork fuck-up debacle - which never affected my anyway. But it's always good to be up-to-date


Very neat and tidy. I'm impressed.

My entire bedroom is neat and tidy. Gotta keep it looking good for the ladies :D

And a messy work station is a messy mind

James (The Disney Guy)
08-15-2015, 10:25 PM
Please Do We Need to Keep Quoting All The Images Again And Again.

theone2000
08-15-2015, 10:34 PM
Please Do We Need to Keep Quoting All The Images Again And Again.


What? You mean like this? :)


Here's my work station. It's also as close as any liquid EVER gets to my Mac ;)


James (The Disney Guy)
08-15-2015, 10:38 PM
Yes. I Am On A Mobile Device, With Very Weak Signal And It Is Freezing Up. Please.

James P.Sullivan
08-15-2015, 11:01 PM
It fixed up a few things, like that whole Apple Music/iCloud Music Library/album artwork fuck-up debacle - which never affected my anyway. But it's always good to be up-to-date

Ok then. Installing now...


My entire bedroom is neat and tidy. Gotta keep it looking good for the ladies :D

And a messy work station is a messy mind

Agreed. 100%.

In which case, going by the state of my bedroom at the moment, my mind must need seeing to.

Sounds about right.

It's not normally like that, but right now keeping it clean and tidy is the last thing on my mind. I gotta get this last bit of work done. Then I can focus on cleaning up before I head off.

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Damn. I completely forgot about my nettle tea, which has now iced over. Guess it's more refreshing that way, and I am thirsty.

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Going to bed. Night all.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 12:22 AM
Waiting for coffee. First cup of the (late) day.

Fell asleep watching " The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Her (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3720788) " (2013)
It was going really good until I got really tired.

The movie is originally 2 stories:
Her
Him

Told from each side of the two.

The director decided to re-cut the two movies into one: "Them".
For the Cannes festival.

I don't think I'll watch Them for a long time.
Him and Her will be good.

I think "Them" would be good for people who don't want/have-time to watch both films.
It's severely condensed since it's 123 minutes while the other two are 100 minutes each.

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Trying to figure out what's breaking Tumblr (https://www.tumblr.com/).

Won't let me sign in with all the security add-ons I have.
Just keeps redirecting me after I try.

Firefox: v40.0.2 (latest; no new updates in "About")
Add-ons:

Adblock Edge (https://bitbucket.org/adstomper/adblockedge)
Disconnect (https://disconnect.me/)
Ghostery (https://www.ghostery.com/en/)
HTTPS-Everywhere (https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere)
NoScript (https://noscript.net/)


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Ghostery broke Tumblr.
All other add-ons work.

I guess it's time to individualize all the different rules to see what's really breaking it... :sigh:[COLOR="Silver"]

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okay, test failed. lol
Forum doesn't like javascripts and Tumblr doesn't have share options like Imgur does.
Have to do this the long-hand method...


Zoran
08-16-2015, 12:24 AM
I am taking advantage of the last few hours of my three month Uploaded premium account by mass downloading lots of music...multi genre music that is, not soundtrack related at all.





I am still extracting the multitudes of rar files I downloaded during my Uploaded premium membership. I will probably be at it until the end of this year!


Looks like you've got a 17-incher, just like me. I NEVER keep any liquids that close to mine, though. You crazay.

Sometimes I hate how big it is. My brother has a 13" and it's nice and small. Good size. Mine is big and heavy - but at the same time I needed a larger screen so I can be working in Final Cut and Audition simultaneously. They take up the entire screen.

I have a HP Biscotti 17.3" G72-252US Laptop and I love it...the only downside is it's kinda heavy and doesn't fit in the standard laptop cases on the market.

(http://www.imagebam.com/image/705114429248050)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 12:39 AM
I am still extracting the multitudes of rar files I downloaded during my Uploaded premium membership. I will probably be at it until the end of this year!

I did that once when I used to download movies from tehparadox.
I went crazy grabbing as many bluray remuxes as fast I as I could.
Went with JDownloader to keep things going while I slept. :laugh:

Zoran
08-16-2015, 02:13 AM
I did that once when I used to download movies from tehparadox.
I went crazy grabbing as many bluray remuxes as fast I as I could.
Went with JDownloader to keep things going while I slept. :laugh:

I would have preferred using JDownloader but I have had issues with the program on my laptop so I used MiPony instead.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 02:21 AM
The main issue I have is the extractor.
It's a hack-job on WinRAR, since it's a paid-licence program.

It can have issues combining split archives (.001/.002/.003) if there isn't enough free space.
Have to be very careful with non-standard archived downloads.

Momonoki
08-16-2015, 02:23 AM
Since we're posting photos of our desks...
I need a bigger desk to fit my other two monitors. And
basically everything else I have too LOL. The second monitor there
is for consoles at the moment so it's off.

Contents: (from left to right)

Wii U
WD Ultra 2TB
Laptop (ontop of an egg tray for cooling)
GameCube Controller adapter for Wii U
WD Ultra 2TB
USB 3.0 Hub
Xonar U7 External Audio Controller
Monitor 1
Logitec Webcam
Blu Yeti Mic
Astro Mix Amp (Hidden)
WiiU Gamepad
Xbox One Kinect
Xbox One
Xbox 360
Gamecube (Hidden)
Moniotor 2
Xbox One Controller

More hidden things:
Video Game collection
Blu Ray collection
WD 12TB
Elgato HD60
HDMI Splitter (For when I hookup my other monitors)



Cable management? Forget about it XD

Zoran
08-16-2015, 02:39 AM
Wow that's a lot of gear Zaralyth! I don't have nearly as many devices...I have thought about starting a new thread in general discussion called "Your Gear".

BTW, I am cooking dinner right now.
Pork tenderloin with roasted red bell pepper and California mix veggies.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 02:45 AM
Drinking A Iced Caramel Latte, While Watching A Film. Not Much Happening Here At 2:45 A.M.

Azetlor
08-16-2015, 02:51 AM
Falling asleep.

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Edit: Listening to The Shawshank Redemption score as I do.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 03:10 AM
@TheSparktank™ 2.1

Do You Have The Day After Tomorrow On DVD Or Blu-Ray?? And If So Are You Able to Get Any Images From It (Simular to What You Did For The Island?? I Was Hoping For Some Of The Tornado Scene To Make Some Custom Covers. The Source Images On The Net Are Mainly The Ice And Water In New York. :(

Thanks If You Can.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 03:39 AM
I sure do!
I believe I bought it on DVD then BD after.

I'll dig it up and remux it to do some scans on it.
Should have stuff up by tomorrow.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 03:41 AM
I sure do!
I believe I bought it on DVD then BD after.

I'll dig it up and remux it to do some scans on it.
Should have stuff up by tomorrow.

You're A Legend Thanks Man. Really Appreciate That.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 03:45 AM
Just remuxing "Night Watch" (Nochnoy Dozor). Can't to rewatch this.

In SVP_60 :awsm:
(interpolated to 60fps)

DAKoftheOTA
08-16-2015, 03:45 AM
Pork tenderloin

My dad always calls the tenderloin "porklog" lol

Momonoki
08-16-2015, 04:31 AM
Cleaning my desk and organizing it after seeing how gross that picture I posted was.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 09:03 AM
Sitting the my villages Local tea room. Waiting for my order. Listening to my ipod and reading the paper. Its early and quiet. Nice.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 10:18 AM
Playing with Adobe Audition.

Audio: Jupiter Ascending: End Credits (9min)
Fingerprint: the whole movie
(http://imgur.com/csJYboO)

ROKUSHO
08-16-2015, 11:41 AM
having an internal debate that maybe you guys can help me with.
during my weekly expedition to flea markets in my never ending quest to become the greatest pokegame master in the multiverse, i stumbled upon a rather odd thing, the film the ten commandments on dvd. me being a person of science, this films existence offends me of course. but what got my attention was that its in a huge ass box (like, bible huge), and inside was.... replicas of the two tablets. nothing else. however, after closer inspection i noticed the tablets could be pulled off, and inside each theres a dvd, the movie is split in two. the first thing i noticed is that it says "for awards screening only" (or something like that) " not for salel". it baffles me that a version that is supposed to be seen by few, has such a fabulous package. now, ive spent the last hour looking for info of this version online and no luck. which tells me two choices: this is an incredibly rare version, its existence is debated. or C) its a worthless copy that nobody wants hence why nobody talks about it.
the asking price is a mere 3 dollars, im tempted to buy it if this is the equivalent of stadium events of versions. but if its a worthless piece of shit (as the movie inherently is) then 3 dollars will still hurt me. i could have bought a shitty game for that (or less)

ROKUSHO
08-16-2015, 11:54 AM
You do know that the movie is a big Hollywood movie and that no matter if it's about religious events it could still entertain you and such? I mean, I'm atheist, but I'd still the movie, it's a big Hollywod epic about a Bible story, not a propaganda. (in my opinion) and yes, get it it's just three dollars. You won't regret it if you sell it on Ebay

ive seen the movie waay too many times when i was a kid. and i finally found some info on this box, its not the heston movie, its a two-part movie from 2006. the promo is called THE TEN COMMANDMENTS Emmy ABC Promo. and found some copies on ebay (on europe) asking for over 120 euros. found just ONE match in ebay US asking for 25 usd.
tried amazon and no results seems this is truly a collectors item, so i guess, despite reading the two parter is boring as hell, ill buy this, and jew some religious zealot into buying it for a 100 usd.


also, right next to it is a factory sealed complete sherlock holmes movie collection. i am DEFINETELY getting that one in a few hours.
the asking price is also 3 dollars, and i just checked its fetching for 110 online. of course i would be braindead retarded if i sold this.
i dont have 3 times my house's value in my room for selling stuff.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
08-16-2015, 12:58 PM
eh. Spent too much time on this.
Tried 30 different configurations.

Works in HTML5 video but sucks in GIF form.
640*640
HTML5: https://gfycat.com/BlaringScaryAmethystinepython

400*4000
HTML5: https://gfycat.com/AlarmingElasticGallinule

300*300
HTML5: https://gfycat.com/WelcomeMerryBluefish

Gah. No matter what, the GIF is much slower.

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200*200
GIF:
http://zippy.gfycat.com/LiveIncompatibleDugong.gif
see how slow it goes?

HTML5: http://gfycat.com/LiveIncompatibleDugong

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 01:50 PM
You do know that the movie is a big Hollywood movie and that no matter if it's about religious events it could still entertain you and such? I mean, I'm atheist, but I'd still the movie, it's a big Hollywod epic about a Bible story, not a propaganda. (in my opinion) and yes, get it it's just three dollars. You won't regret it if you sell it on Ebay

:this:

ROKUSHO
08-16-2015, 02:04 PM
:this:

as i said, i found out its not the heston movie.

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 02:13 PM
as i said, i found out its not the heston movie.

:this:

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 03:06 PM
Yeah, James, I'm just saying it's a movie like any other, an epic one at that, doesn't mean I agree with your religious views. :P

I could watch any religious movie as long as it's not one that's trying to give you propagada and it's interesting to a point

??

I never implied that you were saying anything else, darling. No need to get so defensive. I was simply agreeing with what you were saying - if it was the original epic it would be worth buying because it's worth something to someone.

Shad
08-16-2015, 03:19 PM
Covering the marvelous stain.

ManRay
08-16-2015, 03:31 PM
Buying Magic the Gathering Cards Online. I am afraid to look at my shopping cart ^^

....... Hmmmm, 170 Dollars including Shipping, not as bad as i thought, but i better stop now lol

Lockdown
08-16-2015, 03:46 PM
No offense, but what a waste..

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 03:48 PM
Imagine how many rare film score goodies you could have got on eBay...

emptymetaljacket
08-16-2015, 03:53 PM
me being a person of science, this films existence offends me of course. but what got my attention was that its in a huge ass box (like, bible huge), and inside was.... replicas of the two tablets. nothing else. however, after closer inspection i noticed the tablets could be pulled off, and inside each theres a dvd, the movie is split in two. the asking price is a mere 3 dollars, im tempted to buy it if this is the equivalent of stadium events of versions. but if its a worthless piece of shit (as the movie inherently is) then 3 dollars will still hurt me. i could have bought a shitty game for that (or less)

The fact that it wasn't a DeMille notwithstanding (when you mentioned the two-part split I thought you might have stumbled on an odd copy of the 1923 silent version), saying that the existence of the 1956 The Ten Commandments is "insulting" to you and following that up with a description of the movie, widely considered a masterpiece, as "a worthless piece of shit (as [it] inherently is)" has to be, and I apologize for the upcoming philippic, THE most loathsome form of self-indulgent idiocy I've ever seen written or heard said.

If you really need to bring up the question of propaganda consider that The Ten Commandments is a 1956 film; if you don't know what was going on in the world around that time or can't manage the logical nexus and actually believe it's a near four-hour piece purely for the sake of religious propaganda, I genuinely pity you. Your statements, barely passable as opinion, are insensitive not just toward the many openly religious, if not devout, members on here but to other atheists as well, including myself. Though more (philosophical) pantheistically inclined, honestly, the last person I would wish to be associated with on the matter is your kind- self-proclaimed (obsequious) "men of science" whose great insight and intelligence unravels as soon as you speak with your own words. Whomever's atheist manifesto you abide by, you're doing it wrong.

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No offense, but what a waste..

Umm... rare MTG cards have far greater value than fyc disks. Even Yu-Gi-Oh! cards are resold for a greater value than your average awards-only disk. Film scores is not where real collectors turn to :/

ManRay
08-16-2015, 03:55 PM
Everybody's Tastes are different, i would not want to miss the countless hours of Fun i have had playing the Game with my Buddies.

It's the only costly Hobby i have.

Shad
08-16-2015, 03:56 PM
Buddy, quoting a naughty word is still saying a naughty word. I demand penance.

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Oh I thought that was Sully nvm, carry on.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 03:59 PM
Everybody has things that are special and priceless to them and are willing to pay whatever it takes for it becuase it hold a place in there heart. Be it cards, FYC discs, posters or even books.

Lockdown
08-16-2015, 04:21 PM
Yes I know. I was into Yu-Gi-Oh! cards like most other kids back in the day, and now I realize how much of a waste they were. I'm sure that I'll find out someday what a waste it is to buy CDs.

I meant no offense ManRay.

DAKoftheOTA
08-16-2015, 04:30 PM
I look back realizing how stupid the whole Pok�mon card thing was. So dumb. What a waste. At least with music you can listen to it. Get feelings and emotions from it. What do you get from a silly card? Playing a game? Yup. Totally worth it lol.

ManRay
08-16-2015, 04:34 PM
Yes I know. I was into Yu-Gi-Oh! cards like most other kids back in the day, and now I realize how much of a waste they were. I'm sure that I'll find out someday what a waste it is to buy CDs.

I meant no offense ManRay.

None taken whatsoever...

Also the Things that bring us Joy in Life are never a Waste, i am sure when we both look at our respective collections
(which are both quite substantial ;) ) we wouldn't wanna miss them, i know i do.
Also Money is just Money, we work like Dogs and deserve something nice damnit, lmao ^^

I play a lot of Magic with my 8 year old Nephew, he absolutely loves it, lately he has been destroying me, i have to struggle
like crazy to win a match against him once in a while, that little shit, hahahaha. When he is a little older and he still likes it he will inherit my Collection,
i know i still love to play it despite having started 18 years ago when i was 12...

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 05:41 PM
Back At The Tea Room, Waiting For My Order. Again Nice And Peaceful, People Must Be Away. Then I Will Head Down to The Shops Pick Up A Few Bits And Head Home. Fun! :D

emptymetaljacket
08-16-2015, 06:02 PM
I look back realizing how stupid the whole Pok�mon card thing was. So dumb. What a waste. At least with music you can listen to it. Get feelings and emotions from it. What do you get from a silly card? Playing a game? Yup. Totally worth it lol.

Besides making for the best games when high or drunk, my (way younger) cousin used to compete in the TCG national and world championships (Masters Series, which I believe to be 1999 or older). The complexity of the strategic game at that level is quite honestly amazing and it's played with unreal intensity; it's no surprise that the more clever kids (such as three-time champion Jason Klaczynski) use these kinds of TCG as a stepping stone to poker tournaments. And as complex as Pokemon is (which it is... a lot), MTG should deserve a sub-branch in mathematics of groups and probabilities all to itself.

Azetlor
08-16-2015, 06:16 PM
I know a lot of people who play Pok�mon like it's still their first day. Get overpowered moves and spam them on the opponent. It never works with someone who has developed a strategy, a clever way to secretly take down the opponent.
This is usually the part where I would talk about who my favourites are, why they're good, what strategy or what-not, but considering 90% of you wouldn't be interested, I'll leave that aside. However I will say that Pok�mon can be, like emptymetaljacket said, a super complex game. Even I have not mastered it yet, and I have been playing for approximately six years. I wasn't even alive when the first Pok�mon came out, but I've played every single game, with the exception of those awful Wii variations.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-16-2015, 06:22 PM
In 4th and 5th grade Pokemon was the shit. Everyone collected the cards and would show them off but never actually played a real game of Pokemon. I don't think they knew how.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 06:24 PM
Pokemon Never Intersted Me, None of the Shows/Card Games Like That Did.

Azetlor
08-16-2015, 06:29 PM
Anime is shit, card game is shit, the games?
Fucking amazing.
Opinions, calm yourself

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 06:35 PM
In My Local DVD Store They Have The Films Split Into Sections. And Anime Has Its Own. I Think Out Of All The Years I Shopped There I Bought One Film From That Section.

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 06:35 PM
Just mowed the grass. Pooped.

My sister and her boyfriend are coming over for dinner and to stay the night.

I'm hungry.

Momonoki
08-16-2015, 07:31 PM
Just got back from an early morning hike (left around 7am) up the steepest mountain here.
About 1 hour to go up. Constant, extremely steep rocky mountainous terrain the whole way.
Next time I would love to wear weights, though. I barely broke a sweat. I'll become the next Rock Lee.
LOL

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 07:32 PM
Would Love to See A Pic At Some Point These Sound Like A Beautiful Place. :)

Momonoki
08-16-2015, 07:37 PM
Would Love to See A Pic At Some Point These Sound Like A Beautiful Place. :)

Sure give me a second

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 07:38 PM
Thank You.

DAKoftheOTA
08-16-2015, 07:46 PM
About to open Audition to start my complete edit of The Spectacular Now.


Just mowed the grass. Pooped.

My sister and her boyfriend are coming over for dinner and to stay the night.

I'm hungry.

I'm mowing tomorrow. It's become a pattern that I have Mondays off lately, and I do the lawn once a week. So tomorrow it is.

My sister came over for breakfast, she's still yet to bring her bf. The family has met him, but we have our church gang over for breakfast every Sunday. And I think she's waiting for a good time to bring him.

I'm heating up the oven for Friday night's leftover pizza.

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 07:57 PM
About to open Audition to start my complete edit of The Spectacular Now.



I'm mowing tomorrow. It's become a pattern that I have Mondays off lately, and I do the lawn once a week. So tomorrow it is.

My sister came over for breakfast, she's still yet to bring her bf. The family has met him, but we have our church gang over for breakfast every Sunday. And I think she's waiting for a good time to bring him.

I'm heating up the oven for Friday night's leftover pizza.

I usually mow the lawn once a week. But it's more a patch of grass than a lawn. :p

My sister was supposed to be here at about 6:30pm with her boyfriend, but she phoned at 7:20pm to say they were just leaving. It's now 7:55pm and she's just turned up. We know the boyfriend quite well now, and they are dead serious about getting married when she's out of college.

Dinner is some kind of pasta/sausage flan with salad. I think. Whatever it actually is, it looks and smells damn good.

Momonoki
08-16-2015, 08:04 PM
WARNING LARGE PHOTOS






James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 08:06 PM
Beautiful, Just Beautiful. I Bet Its Just So Calm, Peaceful And Quiet. Ahh Paradise. Lovely Photos Thankyou.

Momonoki
08-16-2015, 08:09 PM
Beautiful, Just Beautiful. I Bet Its Just So Calm, Peaceful And Quiet. Ahh Paradise. Lovely Photos Thankyou.

It is one of my favourite places to be because you can't hear anything except the sounds of nature and the wind.
no cars. no construction. no buildings or bustle. Just calm, quiet.

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 08:10 PM
It is one of my favourite places to be because you can't hear anything except the sounds of nature and the wind.
no cars. no construction. no buildings or bustle. Just calm, quiet.

Wonderful. I Would Love A Place Like That Near Me. I Only Have Feilds, And Farms Near Me LOL Still Cows Are Better Than Cars :D
Your Lucky To Have A Place Like That Near Your Home. :)

James P.Sullivan
08-16-2015, 08:12 PM






Spoiler alert: We need spoilers!

Poor old John Powell had several glitches as my poor MacBook tried to load your photos, and my browser nearly crashed.

Nevertheless, some wonderful shots. Wish I could be there!

James (The Disney Guy)
08-16-2015, 08:14 PM
Spoiler alert: We need spoilers!

Poor old John Powell had several glitches as my poor MacBook tried to load your photos, and my browser nearly crashed.

Nevertheless, some wonderful shots. Wish I could be there!
I Must Admit It Took A While For Me To Load, But It Was Worth It :D Stunning!