You are the best, Funky!! I really appreciate it. I've been sorting ALL of my music and putting it all into iTunes lately and I've decided its time to put ALL my Doctor Who in now that I've completed the Eras... needless to say I may be messaging you for some help with tracks for the library music only sets haha

You're welcome! I'm more than happy to help!

Here's the first one (also the best quality):

Les Structures Sonores (BAM LD 087) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/rx0a14far33cuys/Les_Structures_Sonores_(BAM_LD_087).zip)

All those tracks are in DW apart from "Valse", I think.

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Thought I'd copied all of this one, but looks like I only did the Who-tracks:

Les Structures Sonores - 2 tracks (BAM LD 066) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/55on5vn3i32txvd/Les_Structures_Sonores_-_2_tracks_(BAM_LD_066).zip)

This was described as "in good order"on eBay but is a bit of crackler.

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And finally, the 45. There's a bit of surface noise, but quite listenable:

Mr Blues - Les Structures Sonores (Unidisc EX 45 145 M) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/efx5n72k8d7bp8v/Mr_Blues_-_Les_Structures_Sonores_(Unidisc_EX_45_145_M).zip)

Ignore the lying PasBs - the Galaxy Four tracks are Mister Blues and Toccata Toccarde.

You're welcome! I'm more than happy to help!

Here's the first one (also the best quality):

Les Structures Sonores (BAM LD 087) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/rx0a14far33cuys/Les_Structures_Sonores_(BAM_LD_087).zip)

All those tracks are in DW apart from "Valse", I think.

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Thought I'd copied all of this one, but looks like I only did the Who-tracks:

Les Structures Sonores - 2 tracks (BAM LD 066) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/55on5vn3i32txvd/Les_Structures_Sonores_-_2_tracks_(BAM_LD_066).zip)

This was described as "in good order"on eBay but is a bit of crackler.

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And finally, the 45. There's a bit of surface noise, but quite listenable:

Mr Blues - Les Structures Sonores (Unidisc EX 45 145 M) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/efx5n72k8d7bp8v/Mr_Blues_-_Les_Structures_Sonores_(Unidisc_EX_45_145_M).zip)

Ignore the lying PasBs - the Galaxy Four tracks are Mister Blues and Toccata Toccarde.

Thank you!! I never pay attention to the PasBs unless I HAVE to. ;)

Oh.. and in case anyone needs them (and doesn't have the link), here's my gallery for the Who soundtrack covers thusfar.

Wibbley Wobbley Music (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mrbig1316/library/Doctor%20Who%20Audio%20Covers?sort=3&page=1)

I've used official covers, some fanmade art and some of my own work (most notably the "Era" covers are definitely 100% mine) because I wanted them all to be somewhat uniform with the new Silva Style. ;)

Thankyou! ;)

Funky, Meddler ost has been blocked by mediafire. Can you upload it somewhere else?

Funky, Meddler ost has been blocked by mediafire. Can you upload it somewhere else?

Yeah, got that too

Someone doesn't like cut down tracks of monotonous chanting? Here are the full tracks of monotonous chanting from The Time Meddler. Seven of them, which are the first seven of several dozen Gregorian chants. And I only bought the first volume or other. It's probably best experienced live.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9rx94v

Included within is a handy which bit of track was used in which bit of which episode.

Except the very first bit. I forgot, see.

Someone doesn't like cut down tracks of monotonous chanting? Here are the full tracks of monotonous chanting from The Time Meddler. Seven of them, which are the first seven of several dozen Gregorian chants. And I only bought the first volume or other. It's probably best experienced live.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9rx94v

Included within is a handy which bit of track was used in which bit of which episode.

Except the very first bit. I forgot, see.

Astonishing work. I am in awe!


Funky, Meddler ost has been blocked by mediafire. Can you upload it somewhere else?

Will do - won't be tonight though as I'm off out in a minute. (Socialising! With people! Yes, I do have a life!)

Thanks for sharing this, i can't believe I was able to listen to The Time Meddler Music Cues this morning at work without SFX, I want to go home so bad and watch the DVD, so I could put the tracks in some kind of order, but it didn't matter Today. Thanks Again and Happy New Year To You!

Someone doesn't like cut down tracks of monotonous chanting? Here are the full tracks of monotonous chanting from The Time Meddler. Seven of them, which are the first seven of several dozen Gregorian chants. And I only bought the first volume or other. It's probably best experienced live.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9rx94v

Included within is a handy which bit of track was used in which bit of which episode.

Except the very first bit. I forgot, see.

Oh with the chanting I am ALL about the edit downs. When it comes to pieces like Siday's tracks or such tracks I prefer the complete track. The monks? Definitely ok with edit downs. lol

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Thanks for sharing this, i can't believe I was able to listen to The Time Meddler Music Cues this morning at work without SFX, I want to go home so bad and watch the DVD, so I could put the tracks in some kind of order, but it didn't matter Today. Thanks Again and Happy New Year To You!

Something like this:



The monk tracks are in order as gnawingagony originally had them, just where they should go n the story and with them all renamed to the name of the "album" they were excised from but this should give you a base to use. ;)

And episode 4's end credits are a slightly different mix of the theme song than had been previously used. I can upload that if wanted. :)

A little help with "The Massacre" tracks, if anyone can help me.

I have Mystified Man, Hunted Man, Suspense In The Night, Jungle Song, Frightened Man, Little Prelude, Clouded Crystals and Breath of Fire by Pierre Arvay. I know Hunted Man, Frightened Man, Little Prelude and Breath of Fire are used in the serial for sure. Are any of the others actually used and I'm forgetting it?

A little help with "The Massacre" tracks, if anyone can help me.

...I know Hunted Man, Frightened Man, Little Prelude and Breath of Fire are used in the serial for sure. Are any of the others actually used and I'm forgetting it?

That's the full set as far as I'm aware - although I haven't been through it and checked...


Funky, Meddler ost has been blocked by mediafire. Can you upload it somewhere else?

Try this:

https://mega.co.nz/#!5cVQmIAL!7h8oqMjY_iahghfR1Z6CHyq39a7SQQWeAziq_Us zqD4

A little help with "The Massacre" tracks, if anyone can help me.

I have Mystified Man, Hunted Man, Suspense In The Night, Jungle Song, Frightened Man, Little Prelude, Clouded Crystals and Breath of Fire by Pierre Arvay. I know Hunted Man, Frightened Man, Little Prelude and Breath of Fire are used in the serial for sure. Are any of the others actually used and I'm forgetting it?

No. Just those four, and one of them only the once - forget which, but it was used in the first episode as Ann does a runner through the streets of Paris, something we've all done in our lives I'm sure.

NEWSFLASH:

"Aliens" by Erik Nordgren has had a good year. Six months ago it wasn't in Dr Who at all (officially). Then gnawingagony discovered it was used in The Space Museum, and now I've discovered it's in another story as well!

I'm keeping you in suspense... But as soon as a certain piece of vinyl drops through my letterbox, I shall reveal all...

As you can imagine, since I typed those words I've been inundated with literally hundreds of PMs demanding to know more. And now I can reveal all - by means of a complete OST of the relevant story:

The Moonbase

https://mega.co.nz/#!td0wxQTA!Mzrz7ePJBu9DJNcoEK9ZyvU7bxES4SmHe4JpUqd yE-Q

Alternative link:

https://www.mediafire.com/?24a5v1bs2pso57j

I've been through this one with a fine tooth comb and I think this is as complete as is we're ever likely to get!

I've recently bagged Anaesthesia and Hypnosis on vinyl - Anaesthesia sounds quite different to the version we had up till now. Hypnosis not so much, and my new version is really hissy - not sure why (the surrounding tracks aren't) but I've included both versions anyway...

I've included all the Dalek Master Plan tracks too, along with recreations (and original rips) of various other bits. I've also spotted a few (very minor) bits that remain unidentified.

Nordgren's "Aliens" plays during the defeaty-Cybermen gravitron sequence in part four (playing alongside "Group Shapes: Arcs") - it's the same bit as used in Space Museum too!

1. Musique Electronique: Anaesthesia – Eric Siday [1-4]
2. UNKNOWN: Wind_Hypnosis_Anaesthesia (episode rip) [1]
3. Musique Electronique: Hypnosis [SLOW, edit] – Eric Siday [1,3,4]
4. Electronic Sound Pictures: Group Shapes (c): Arcs – Desmond Briscoe [1,4]
5. Asyndeton – Roberto Gerhard [1,3]
6. Sick Bay / Virus – Brian Hodgson, BBC Radiophonic Workshop
7. Growing Menace – Tristram Cary [1,2,4]
8. Sting 1 (Space Adventure Pt. 3) – Martin Slavin (with Radiophonic effects) [1,2]
9. End of Part 1 (Space Adventure Pt. 2 / Sting 2) - Norman Ramin (Martin Slavin) / Tristam Cary
10. Sting 2 (DMP: Sting III) – Tristram Cary [1]

11. Moonscape - Eric Siday [2]
12. Sting 3 (Space Adventures 3 / 2 / 3) – Martin Slavin (with Radiophonic effects) [2]
13. Sting 4 (DMP: “The Victim III”) – Tristram Cary [2,3]

14. Suspended Animation – Eric Siday [3,4]
15. Musique Electronique: Conflict No.1 – Eric Siday [3,4]
16. Sting 5 (Sting 1 + Asyndeton) [3]
17. UNKNOWN / Ultimate (edit) – Eric Siday [3]
18. Sting 6 (Hypnosis Slow + reverb) – Eric Siday (with Radiophonic effects) [3]

19. Synchrostings 13 & 16 – Trevor Duncan [4]
20. Synchrostings 10 (edit) – Trevor Duncan [4]
21. UNKNOWN (Hobson examines dome wall - v. short) [4]
22. Sting 7 (DMP Sting I) – Tristam Cary [4]
23. Space Adventures Pt. 2 [SLOW, edit] – Martin Slavin [4]
24. Aliens [SLOW, edit] – Erik Nordgren / Electronic Sound Pictures: Group Shapes: Arcs – Desmond Briscoe [4]
25. UNKNOWN: Macra! (episode rip)

RELATED BITS

Aliens – Erik Nordgren - - - this is gnawingagony's original download after a lick of the declicker. Ta, ducks!
Musique Electronique: Sabre Dance – Eric Siday - - - this is not in The Moonbase, I'm fairly sure. Bad PasB.
Electronic Sound Pictures: Group Shapes (a): Round and Bumpy – Desmond Briscoe
Electronic Sound Pictures: Group Shapes (b): Zig Zags – Desmond Briscoe
Electronic Sound Pictures: Group Shapes (d): Lines – Desmond Briscoe
Musique Electronique: Reflections – Eric Siday - - - the fourth and final track from the Siday EP
Synchrostings - Trevor Duncan --- all 17 of the buggers. Gotta catch 'em all!


Track 21 - what is this (apart from the most pointless upload ever)? I think it sounds like a violin or something similar. Or is it electronic? Or am I going mad?

Track 2 has an electronic wind effect (possibly radiophonic) alongside Anaesthesia and Hypnosis which only appears once as part of this cue - but are there a few notes of something more orchestral from about two-and-a-half seconds in? (Definitely might be going mad.)

Also, the final track ("Macra!") - it's gotta be a Synchrosting, surely, but I can't get any of them to match. Two unsuccessful speedy-uppy attempts are included as track 25. Tut and delete them.

And a happy new year to all of you at home!

That's the full set as far as I'm aware - although I haven't been through it and checked...


No. Just those four, and one of them only the once - forget which, but it was used in the first episode as Ann does a runner through the streets of Paris, something we've all done in our lives I'm sure.

Breath of Fire is the one used for Ann's run. ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR !

Happy who year! :D

Is The Space Museum or The Web of Fear Soundtrack here or exists? I saw link to more DW cover art and thought maybe I missed them. Just asking I not asking somebody to post, just thought I might have missed them. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL : )

Does anyone have a flac copy of the 'Space Adventures' stock music CD? I seem to not have a copy of it, even though I was sure I did.

Is The Space Museum or The Web of Fear Soundtrack here or exists? I saw link to more DW cover art and thought maybe I missed them. Just asking I not asking somebody to post, just thought I might have missed them. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL : )

Hello!

THE SPACE MUSEUM (http://www.mediafire.com/download/euy780bu6avbaw1/THE_SPACE_MUSEUM.zip)

This is an old upload and is now a little outdated.

Insert Aliens [SLOW] by Erik Nordgren between tracks 3 and 4. (Or the full-speed version if you prefer. Although I couldn't possibly condone such free-thinking hedonism.)

You can also replace the rips of Siday's Ultimate, The Laboratory 1 and Suspended Animation with the tracks from the Dual Planet Ultra Sonic Perception CD.

The other Siday tracks - from his "Musique Electronique" series - were stolen from here:

http://www.ringmusik.com/index.php/en/cd-catalogue/cddetail/209

- and they sound absolutely bloody awful. (Just compare their version of "Anaesthesia" to the vinyl version from my "moonbase" download.) I've no idea what went wrong at the mastering stage, but if you're remotely interested in such things (which I'm guessing you must be if you''ve found this place!) then join me in pestering Dual Planet for a proper release of these - either ripped from the vinyl or new transfers from the masters (if they've not been binned).

Track 25 ("End of Part 3") is a rip from the episode. It's definitely by Desmond Leslie, and, according to the PasBs is called either "Kaputt" or "Sting Tintabuloid". I think "Kaputt" is the correct title (long, boring reasons...); however, as gnawingagony has pointed out, a more or less identical 'sample' appears at the end of another Leslie track called "The Stranger" - which was commercially available on the "Music of the Future" CD, and has been uploaded here in the past, tho' I don't have a link to hand...

I'll try and upload Web within the next day or two...



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Does anyone have a flac copy of the 'Space Adventures' stock music CD? I seem to not have a copy of it, even though I was sure I did.

Got the disc but no way of copying to FLAC. If anyone can recommend a free program that can convert WAV -> FLAC in bulk then let me know and I'll have a go.



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By the way -

There's a copy of one of the Les Structures Sonores albums on eBay at the minute (LD 087) - the listing claims it's in "near mint" condition, and it has an astonishingly low Buy-It-Now price of 8 Euros (+ postage from France). It's not me and nothing to do with me, but if anyone's interested:

Lasry Baschet Les Structures Sonores 25 cm LP 1965 Bam LD 087 Vinyl Near Mint | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LASRY-BASCHET-Les-structures-sonores-25-cm-LP-1965-BAM-LD-087-vinyl-near-mint-/171620829447?)

I'll try and upload Web within the next day or two...

Ooh, I'm quick:

The Web of Fear

https://www.mediafire.com/?ngp4ft4f81aed3p

- includes the correct version of Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta (which, according to my ears, is the same one used in The Shining. Someone tell me if I'm wrong... **LATER EDIT - I'm wrong!)

EDIT: It doesn't include Space Adventure 2 'cos:


a) that might mean the file is more likely to be exterminated by Mark Ayres,
b) all of you will already have 500 copies of it already, and
c) I forgot.


Also included is my rip of Tranquil Scene from Wheel in Space (the vinyl claims to be in stereo. It ain't; ) and the missing track from Dual Planet's Cold Worlds CD - the re-recording of the UNIT theme (Aunty's Army) by Don Harper.

Until a copy of Death of Satan turns up for auction or online somewhere, poor old Kaputt and Sting Tintaboloid or whatever will remain a mystery...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sound of the Freezing Machine heard in the last two episodes was sourced from an LP.

Talking of which, there is an ambience that runs through The Moonbase that plays in different locations that for years I've often wondered if it was a piece of stock.

No one is really sure how much original Radiophonic is in Moonbase. May have been a Hodgson holiday story hence all those Keys of Marinus sounds. Even the Gravitron sounds a bit like a Siday track, albeit all mashed up. Compare it to the opening piece of The Space Museum and you might see what I mean. Could be an enormous coincidence of sound...

The ambiance I mean can be heard best in Episode 2 as the Cyberman stalks and stuns Polly. It is also used I think when the astronauts are about to go onto the Moon surface. But it is all over the place. May well be slowed down, but what the hell is it?


Well done Funky for spotting the Aliens piece in Moonbase. For YEARS I wondered if that Space Museum piece was something to do with all those low gravity whoops from Moonbase but dismissed it. I never thought it was used in the final expulsion. Amazing, as Kate Bush would say, endlessly.

Thanks Funky for The Web of Fear tracks! I decided to edit the tracks to how they are heard in each episode and am so far going through episode 1 and as I don't have the PasB document for the story, have gotten stuck on one piece music that I appear to not have; the piece that plays when the Doctor, Jamie and Victoria head down the tunnel at 16:15 that lasts for about 45 seconds. Does anyone have any idea what this music is?

Here it is my first music rip. I hope you enjoy it :)



Cover by luckypenny

DOCTOR WHO: PARTNERS IN CRIME

01. Doctor Who Opening Theme/Health and Safety
02. The Adipose Capsule
03. In The Office
04. Miss Foster/The Fat/Donna's Mother
05. Donna's Granddad
06. A Quick Getaway/Waiting/Adipose
07. Donna!
08. Run!/Sonic Device
09. She's Cutting the Cable!/Escaping
10. Partners in Crime
11. Kill Them
12. Come With Me?/1000000 Birthdays
13. Invasion
14. Fly Away Home
15. Miss Foster Dies
16. Donna in the TARDIS/Rose/Doctor Who Closing Theme

Music rip by Mortadelo
MP3 320 kbps
44:29

https://mega.co.nz/#!3BEiVRDQ!IRqAIVOh_uc04-GA6O3WIV6Li_ZEwscRCncm4revtIY

Mortadelo did you do any volume control on those? If so, what software did you use and how? Those sound so clear and are actually quite clean! Unlike my rips...

Here it is my first music rip. I hope you enjoy it :)

DOCTOR WHO: PARTNERS IN CRIME

Thanks Mortadelo! Sounds Great!

Mortadelo did you do any volume control on those? If so, what software did you use and how? Those sound so clear and are actually quite clean! Unlike my rips...

I use audacity to extract the channels and videopad video editor professional to cut the tracks and I convert the tracks to mp3 with Format Factory. I don't change the volume. The AC3 5.1 file I used is from the Series 4 box set.

So, what did you use to extract the AC3 5.1 file? (There may be a better way than what I do...)

I use DVD Decripter

Thanks Mortadelo, I'll see if this is a better method of getting the music from DVDs.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sound of the Freezing Machine heard in the last two episodes was sourced from an LP.

Think I spotted it in a b/w Out of the Unknown recently. Level Seven, possibly.


Talking of which, there is an ambience that runs through The Moonbase that plays in different locations that for years I've often wondered if it was a piece of stock.

No one is really sure how much original Radiophonic is in Moonbase. May have been a Hodgson holiday story hence all those Keys of Marinus sounds. Even the Gravitron sounds a bit like a Siday track, albeit all mashed up. Compare it to the opening piece of The Space Museum and you might see what I mean. Could be an enormous coincidence of sound...

The ambiance I mean can be heard best in Episode 2 as the Cyberman stalks and stuns Polly. It is also used I think when the astronauts are about to go onto the Moon surface. But it is all over the place. May well be slowed down, but what the hell is it?

I know exactly which sound you mean! It reappears in Tomb too (with a similar disregard for geographical consistency; cropping up in the weapons testing room and the tombs themselves, IIRC). It's a great track – should probably have included it in my download, really; in fact, I did start cobbling together a long version out of various bits but they didn't hang together very well. Then I gave up on the grounds that it was probably radiophonic and 'only' a sound effect...

But now I'm very tempted to agree it could well be a library track – interestingly the Radiophonic Workshop catalogue has no tape master for Moonbase listed as ever existing (unlike Tomb which has a tape listed as existing once which has since gone AWOL), which might suggest that Brian Hodgson was indeed having a lazy week. Although, having said that, Web Planet has no record of a tape ever existing either and I’m sure I’ve heard Dick Mills or Mr H talking about having provided the Zarbi sounds.

Anyway, whatever the track is, I want it. Someone go and find it!


The Web of Fear … as I don't have the PasB document for the story, have gotten stuck on one piece music that I appear to not have; the piece that plays when the Doctor, Jamie and Victoria head down the tunnel at 16:15 that lasts for about 45 seconds. Does anyone have any idea what this music is?

It’s Space Time Music part 3, innit? I had an accident with a bottle of gin last night and am currently in no state to operate a DVD player, but I’ll check later if no one else has…

Hello!



The other Siday tracks - from his "Musique Electronique" series - were stolen from here:

Vintage Sci-Fi | CD Catalogue | Ring Musik GmbH | Musik f�r Visionen (http://www.ringmusik.com/index.php/en/cd-catalogue/cddetail/209)

- and they sound absolutely bloody awful. (Just compare their version of "Anaesthesia" to my vinyl version from my "moonbase" download.) I've no idea what went wrong at the mastering stage, but if you're remotely interested in such things (which I'm guessing you must be if you''ve found this place!) then join me in pestering Dual Planet for a proper release of these - either ripped from the vinyl or new transfers from the masters (if they've not been binned).


I have no idea what happened to cause it, but i do know WHY they sound awful.

This is comparing the two versions of 'Anaesthesia' using spectrographic anlysis, with the download version on top and the vinyl version on the bottom. The vinyl version is identical except for some pops and crackles and---- wait what's that?

There's a massive pitch gap in the download version between 250 and 1000 hz, meaning almost all of the important low end pitch levels are missing from the download version. I can only assume this was a transferring error, but it persists in almost all of the Eric Siday tracks that have been posted here. Luckily, a bit of equalization adjustment can mostly compensate, but the vinyl copies are far superior (once some crackling removal has been done anyway)
Speaking of which, I've gotten fairly adept at clicking/crackling removal lately and if anyone wants me to remaster specific tracks, i'd be only too happy to do so!

I have no idea what happened to cause it, but i do know WHY they sound awful...

Aha! Big thanks for doing that!

How on earth could that even happen? Surely you plug your reel-to-reel into your computer and press play on one and record on the other...? (I may be simplifying a little, but the point is one would imagine that any decent sound engineer would know not to press the "Make the tracks sound terrible" button!) Actually, most of the JW Media tracks (at least the ones we're interested in) sound a bit shoddy - some of the Synchrostings sound rather warbly on the high frequencies and possibly a little distorted; also one of the stereo channels on Desert Storm is crackly (it's a mono track though, so easily fixed...)

I've pretty much drained my vinyl collection now but if / when I get any more I'll be sure to pop 'em up here.

The Moonbase

https://www.mediafire.com/?24a5v1bs2pso57j
Funky, I love your stuff, research and stuff. Really. But now...
LOOK INTO MY EYES. I AM THE MASTER AND YOU WILL OBEY ME.
Forget about mediafire. Please. Everything but not mediafire.
RWQ
<Permission Denied. "Conflict No. 1" by The Lansdowne Light Orchestra may be available for download from Amazon.>

NEVERMIND

Funky, I love your stuff, research and stuff. Really. But now...
LOOK INTO MY EYES. I AM THE MASTER AND YOU WILL OBEY ME.
Forget about mediafire. Please. Everything but not mediafire.
RWQ


Has it been zapped...? :(

NEVERMIND

Has it been zapped...? :(

Permission Denied.
"Conflict No. 1" by The Lansdowne Light Orchestra may be available for download from Amazon.

Permission Denied.
"Conflict No. 1" by The Lansdowne Light Orchestra may be available for download from Amazon.

Uploading to Mega now!

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The Moonbase (again):

https://mega.co.nz/#!td0wxQTA!Mzrz7ePJBu9DJNcoEK9ZyvU7bxES4SmHe4JpUqd yE-Q

Aha! Big thanks for doing that!

How on earth could that even happen? Surely you plug your reel-to-reel into your computer and press play on one and record on the other...? (I may be simplifying a little, but the point is one would imagine that any decent sound engineer would know not to press the "Make the tracks sound terrible" button!) Actually, most of the JW Media tracks (at least the ones we're interested in) sound a bit shoddy - some of the Synchrostings sound rather warbly on the high frequencies and possibly a little distorted; also one of the stereo channels on Desert Storm is crackly (it's a mono track though, so easily fixed...)

I've pretty much drained my vinyl collection now but if / when I get any more I'll be sure to pop 'em up here.

I imagine there was some issue with the "master tapes" or whatever most of the Eric Siday tracks have been transferred from because it's exclusive to tracks by that composer, and present in all of them (including his tracks on the Vintage Sci Fi Music album posted a while back). In fact, I originally thought it was just some sort of mixing quirk in his work or something along those lines :P

I imagine there was some issue with the "master tapes" or whatever most of the Eric Siday tracks have been transferred from because it's exclusive to tracks by that composer, and present in all of them (including his tracks on the Vintage Sci Fi Music album posted a while back). In fact, I originally thought it was just some sort of mixing quirk in his work or something along those lines :P

Yeah, the same problem affects all the Siday remasters on that site, unfortunately. If you check them against the TX versions, they all sound "thin", although they do vary - Hypnosis doesn't sound too bad, but poor Conflict sounds absolutely terrible - parts of the tune are all but missing. (This is top of my vinyl wants list at the moment!)

I do hope they kept the original tapes once they'd archived those nasty digital copies...

Mr Funky, do you have a rip of the entire album from which the Desmond Briscoe (spell it) racket came from? I think Daphne Oram made up one side and he the other. I'm just wondering if any other sounds were sourced from that album, which, if memory serves me, was the sort of album we had to do gymnastics to in the 1970s at primary school.

Still be interesting to hear even if nothing else was used.

Mr Funky, do you have a rip of the entire album from which the Desmond Briscoe (spell it) racket came from? I think Daphne Oram made up one side and he the other. I'm just wondering if any other sounds were sourced from that album, which, if memory serves me, was the sort of album we had to do gymnastics to in the 1970s at primary school.

Still be interesting to hear even if nothing else was used.

Ooh, good idea!

I haven't ripped the whole thing, but I know of a man who has:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T6aJ-Gh-DDc

And a track listing:

http://www.discogs.com/Vera-Gray-Desmond-Briscoe-Listen-Move-And-Dance-No-4-Moving-Percussion-And-Electronic-Sound-Pictures/master/465248

I can't spot anything but as Track Identifier Extraordinaire, I'll stand back and let you have a go...

Happy to rip it if you want a copy. Mine's a bit on the crackly side but it scrubs up more or less ok.

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By the way, this is what the last track from Space Museum would have sounded like originally *if* it came from a 78 that had been slowed to 45rpm (which I think it might).

https://mega.co.nz/#!YIEWyBbY!-kWUceLd14oXWSCuCAgR5VLajIITgoFKeQKrsThzJ3k

Ring any bells for anyone...?

Ooh, good idea!

I haven't ripped the whole thing, but I know of a man who has:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T6aJ-Gh-DDc

And a track listing:

http://www.discogs.com/Vera-Gray-Desmond-Briscoe-Listen-Move-And-Dance-No-4-Moving-Percussion-And-Electronic-Sound-Pictures/master/465248

I can't spot anything but as Track Identifier Extraordinaire, I'll stand back and let you have a go...

Happy to rip it if you want a copy. Mine's a bit on the crackly side but it scrubs up more or less ok.

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By the way, this is what the last track from Space Museum would have sounded like originally *if* it came from a 78 that had been slowed to 45rpm (which I think it might).

https://mega.co.nz/#!YIEWyBbY!-kWUceLd14oXWSCuCAgR5VLajIITgoFKeQKrsThzJ3k

Ring any bells for anyone...?

Oh blimey! The end of The Space Museum! Doesn't it sound a little bit Structures Sonore or whatever they are called?

Now then. what about the drum roll cymbal clash for The War Machines...

Oh blimey! The end of The Space Museum! Doesn't it sound a little bit Structures Sonore or whatever they are called?

Oh God, it does a bit. I'm not trawling through them all!


Now then. what about the drum roll cymbal clash for The War Machines...

I can do this one! Almost. It's from an internal "BBC FX Disc" according to whoever wrote this:

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/drwhoprodguide.pdf

Page 44.

Whoever wrote that appears to have had access to different (and more expansive) paperwork than we have (Web of Fear 3-6 are included, for example; also the Inferno listing contains the details for "Mysterious" and "Crazy / Cosmic Sounds" - which the online PasBs don't. Also a few details that are illegible on the online versions appear complete on that PDF (Four to Doomsday, for example)).

Having said all that, a couple of bursts of the Synchrostings and Asyndeton in War Machines are also listed there as hailing from "BBC FX Discs" - which, of course, they don't - so it looks like whatever the mysterious documents were that those authors had access to, they were just as unreliable as the PasBs we know and love and the drumroll/cymbal could be from anywhere.

This doesn't really help, does it...?

Now then. what about the drum roll cymbal clash for The War Machines...

I can do this one! Almost. It's from an internal "BBC FX Disc" according to whoever wrote this:

This doesn't really help, does it...?

The drum roll and cymbal clash is included on the DVD photo gallery for the War Machines, and I have uploaded it here (https://mega.co.nz/#!MA51BJgb!fScjxzIV_neLB1e5f82KhjtJ_LCyvgdNWSR0sub HGcc). I hope that helps. Unless you're after the BBC's source for the piece and not actually the piece itself...

Thank you! I'm trying to decide if it's just a rip from the soundtrack or whether Mr Ayres has actually located the original...

Oh God, it does a bit. I'm not trawling through them all!



I can do this one! Almost. It's from an internal "BBC FX Disc" according to whoever wrote this:

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/drwhoprodguide.pdf

Page 44.

Whoever wrote that appears to have had access to different (and more expansive) paperwork than we have (Web of Fear 2-6 are included, for example; also the Inferno listing contains the details for "Mysterious" and "Crazy / Cosmic Sounds" - which the online PasBs don't. Also a few details that are illegible on the online versions appear complete on that PDF (Four to Doomsday, for example)).

Having said all that, a couple of bursts of the Synchrostings and Asyndeton in War Machines are also listed there as hailing from "BBC FX Discs" - which, of course, they don't - so it looks like whatever the mysterious documents were that those authors had access to, they were just as unreliable as the PasBs we know and love and the drumroll/cymbal could be from anywhere.

This doesn't really help, does it...?

That is a DWAS publication, circa the 1990s when the Written Archives were opening up. Fans were able to get their tenacious claws in early. Possibly a Brunt/Pixley job. They list their sources on page 7 and I notice they put in a disclaimer about the accuracy of Web of Fear PASBs. Sensible boys. And they would have had access to paperwork only held by the fans at the time. Now all you need to do is say you're writing a book or article and hey presto you can walk in and see the stuff yourself at the BBC place in Reading. And then discover how much is missing.

Yes, BBC FX disc is a tad shite. Suggests they found it in their own grams library, prepared for another earlier show and assumed it was BBC stock. Tristram Cary told a story of trying to stop someone at the BBC putting a BBC stamp on one of his music spools and claiming his freelance stuff as their own. I wonder if he had any idea some of his things were reused for The Moonbase. He would have known for the other times stuff was reused, and got paid for its use, but this one? He said he hatred having his music chopped up and the way it was used in Moonbase is not sensitive! A glance in his contracts file would be most interesting. But that's by the by.

I did come across a Johnny Hawksworth track on some album or other which was OH SO CLOSE, identical cymbal but the drum roll was a fraction of what was used. And I know Hawksworth was the same guy whose 'pop' tracks were utilised for the first episode but I don't recall going through the album and spotting any drumroll cymbals. A MASSIVE coincidence if he did provide the opening cue. He did do a lot of percussion for various labels.

I've been through the link you kindly provided. A few moments I thought 'Ooh,' but nah. Worth a try. Listening to the Moonbase, the sound design is a typical Morris Barry mash up. Multiple layers of sound. The poor grams operator.

Good luck with unpicking Tomb of the Cybermen.

Cover by luckypenny

DOCTOR WHO: THE FIRES OF POMPEII

01. Ancient Rome
02. We're in Pompeii
03. Doctor Who Opening Theme/It Has Come/The TARDIS Has Gone
04. Modern Art
05. Positions
06. The Gift
07. We Are Getting Out of Here
08. I'm the Visitor/Mister and Mrs Spartacus
09. Lucius Petrus Dextrus/A Lord of Time
10. It's Stone
11. They're Breathing in Vesuvius
12. Lucius' Villa/A New Prophecy/An Energy Converter
13. The Gods Are With Us
14. Pyrovile
15. Into the Volcano
16. The Heart of Vesuvius
17. The Heaven of Pyrovillia is Gone
18. Pompeii Falls/Come With Me/The Visions Have Gone
19. Household Gods/Doctor Who Closing Theme

Music rip by Mortadelo
MP3 320 kbps
44:46

https://mega.co.nz/#!vQNWmRZJ!42DfOPP59gNucwaUe7cJ6lTffAMQbyFwMji4D14 wG74

...Yes, BBC FX disc is a tad shite. Suggests they found it in their own grams library, prepared for another earlier show and assumed it was BBC stock. Tristram Cary told a story of trying to stop someone at the BBC putting a BBC stamp on one of his music spools and claiming his freelance stuff as their own. I wonder if he had any idea some of his things were reused for The Moonbase. He would have known for the other times stuff was reused, and got paid for its use, but this one? He said he hatred having his music chopped up and the way it was used in Moonbase is not sensitive! A glance in his contracts file would be most interesting. But that's by the by.

That's interesting. So we have an eyewitness report from Tristam Cary that the BBC were trying to label his work as BBC property, and a now-vanished document seen by Brunt/Pixley that claimed that Synchrostings and Asyndeton were also BBC property - and all three of these things were omitted from the PasBs for The Moonbase... It's all starting to come together!


Listening to the Moonbase, the sound design is a typical Morris Barry mash up. Multiple layers of sound. The poor grams operator.

My thoughts exactly! Moonbase and Tomb are both such gorgeous and intricate soundscapes - always two or three things playing at once. God knows what went wrong on The Dominators.


Good luck with unpicking Tomb of the Cybermen.

I've unpicked Tomb as much as I'm going to. That was the first one I did! It's not too much of a mess - we've got all the main music tracks, which leaves:

1. Two Desmond Leslie tracks listed as appearing in part one whereas I can spot only one track in the episode that's unaccounted for ("Sting 1" on my Tomb #2 download). One of these is listed as "Band 8" of JW 232B - although that's impossible because that disc only has 5 tracks in total. (I've said it before and I'll say it again - I think this will turn out to be "Sting Tintabuloid" (Which is Band 8 of JW 233B))

2. A low, rhythmic pulsing that appears in Part 2 playing over Galaxy and the 'upstairs' Tomb chamber sound effect (Track 4 in my Tomb #2 download). It's not really distinct enough to identify. (It's possible that it's not a track at all and just some sort of aural artefact caused by the mixing of the other two tracks, although it doesn't seem to occur anywhere else...)

3. "Sting 4" from my Tomb #2 download ("If the Cybermen didn't shoot him, what did?"). Theory: I think this may well be another cue from Dramatic Brass Chords (i.e. in addition to Staccato Ending from Space Museum). I base this on the fact that it's a Chord, it's Brassy, and, indeed, Dramatic.

4. "Sting 6" from my Tomb #2 download. Less likely, but also possibly hailing from DBC. (Although if it is it's been slowed down and Hodgsoned half to death)

5. "Sting 7" from my Tomb #2 download (rising tones as Cybercontroller grabs Kleig) - God knows. It's a single note that's been played in reverse and "decayed", then the resulting sound reversed again so the distortion happens first before gradually resolving itself into the original note. Slight chance the source sound is a heavily treated DBC; also possibly purely radiophonic. Or something else entirely. (I live to be helpful.)

6. "Sting 8" from my Tomb #2 download ("You will be like us..."). Sounds Space Adventure-y but isn't. No idea.

7. Scraping the very bottom of the barrel now - an additional sting that's been overdubbed at the start of Synchrostings 2 where Ted Rogers gets electrocuted(!). Possibly another Synchrosting (although a quick fiddle in Audacity a few months ago couldn't replicate the sound...)

8. The "Swirley atmospherics" thing from Moonbase we were talking about earlier. It first appears at the end of the opening scene of part 2 (once Off Center finishes) then pops up randomly all over the place. It's a wonderfully intricate and textured piece (I was wrong earlier - it's far more music than sound effect.) I do hope it was a library piece as that means it might one day turn up.

9. Tomb background sound effect - half organ, half vocoder-esque effect. Love this too - I always picture it as a choir of Cybermen, singing away. It's really unlike anything else the RW were churning out at the time, which leads me to wonder if this too might be a library piece. Although that's probably just wishful thinking on my part, caused by a) me really wanting a copy of it, and b) someone having nicked the radiophonic Tomb master tape, meaning I can't. (Maybe they've got the PasBs for Web 3-6 as well...!)

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Oops:


...interestingly the Radiophonic Workshop catalogue has no tape master for Moonbase listed as ever existing (compared to Tomb which has a tape listed as existing once which has since gone AWOL), which might suggest that Brian Hodgson was indeed having a lazy week. Although, having said that, Web Planet has no record of a tape ever existing either and I’m sure I’ve heard Dick Mills or Mr H talking about having provided the Zarbi sounds.

I got this completely arse-around-tit. There is a record of a radiophonic master tape for Web Planet once existing (although it has since vanished). Good news though - this adds weight to your theory that Moonbase had no radiophonic involvement, which would mean that the "swirly atmospherics" piece would indeed be a library track.

Faceless Ones has no record of any radiophonic involvement either - which means that omnipresent electronic "Faceless Ones warble" might also be stock...

God knows what went wrong on The Dominators.

Many, many things... ;)

So, my theory that Dramatic Brass Chords was the source of more than one sting for Tomb of the Cybermen. Exhibit A - a comparison of the three main suspects:

https://www.mediafire.com/?kyd6pcaezl7asyq

Daleks in Manhattan music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!McomWYrB!zoM9Q_ZntBttbWUeEFswlWIUZYbe_82a6Yl6l4u G1_o)

DOCTOR WHO: THE FIRES OF POMPEII

Thanks Again ;)

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Daleks in Manhattan music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!McomWYrB!zoM9Q_ZntBttbWUeEFswlWIUZYbe_82a6Yl6l4u G1_o)
Thanks Again ;-)

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Anyone Have Any Idea Regarding This Is It Music Or Sound Effects??



Track Listings
Disc: 1
1. Imagine
2. Cosmological Beginnings
3. Prehistoric Period
4. Departure Of Mondas
5. The 14 Planet Theory
6. Locating Planet 14
7. Journey To The Edge Of Space
8. The Culture Of Logic
9. Excising The Emotions
10. First Divergence Of Species
11. The Transformation Of Mondas
12. Developments On Planet 14
13. Meanwhile On Earth...
Disc: 2
1. Welcome To The Cyber Hive
2. First Invasion Of Earth
3. Inhuman Killers From Another World
4. Cyber Mind Control
5. Destroy Life On Earth
6. The Quiet Invasion
7. The Destruction Of Mondas
8. Cybermondasian
9. Misery Or Mastery
10. Second Divergence Of Species
11. Space Station W3
12. Late Cyberfaction
13. The Cybership
14. The Moonbase
Disc: 3
1. The Vogan War
2. The Colonisation Of Telos
3. Awakening Of The Cybertelosians
4. The Pursuit Of Voga
5. Late Cybernomad
6. The Vengeful Cybermen
7. Proliferating Cybermen
Disc: 4
1. Cybermen On Gallifrey
2. In The Death Zone
3. The Deadly Chequerboard
4. Onslaught On Earth
5. Cybermen Take Control
6. Spiralling Backwards In Time
7. Departure From Telos
8. The Tardis On Telos
9. A Wider Proliferation?
10. Living Metal
11. The Human State Of Madness
12. The End Of The Cybermen

Anyone Have Any Idea Regarding This Is It Music Or Sound Effects??



That's David Banks (He played a Cyber Leader in a number of the 80s episodes) reading a book of the same title about the history of the Cybermen, nothing to do with music or sound effects. ('The ArcHive Tapes: Cybermen is a four CD set based on that book, the hypothesised history of the cyber race, written and narrated by the Cyber Leader himself.' (http://www.cherryred.co.uk/cherryred-exd.asp?id=4122))

That's David Banks (He played a Cyber Leader in a number of the 80s episodes) reading a book of the same title about the history of the Cybermen, nothing to do with music or sound effects. ('The ArcHive Tapes: Cybermen is a four CD set based on that book, the hypothesised history of the cyber race, written and narrated by the Cyber Leader himself.' (http://www.cherryred.co.uk/cherryred-exd.asp?id=4122))

Interesting Thats Great Thanks ;)

So it's the Cybermen version of the album "The Dalek Conquests", right? 'Cause if it is, does anyone have a link?

Cool there is a dalek one. Thanks i will look for that one aswell.

Evolution of the Daleks music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!RQISXT6Q!uNoYj-ZpARQikMK9ZOAizTSOTqW8i4ttEAv7U435h_g).

I love Murray Gold's Score for Series 8. So much so that I have recreated some of the reused themes of Series 8:

https://soundcloud.com/spiderdalek49/im-not-a-hero

https://soundcloud.com/spiderdalek49/my-brother-just-died-from-into-the-dalek

There not perfect but I'm happy with the results. More so with the Into The Dalek cue than the Robot Of Sherwood cue.

I love Murray Gold's Score for Series 8. So much so that I have recreated some of the reused themes of Series 8:

https://soundcloud.com/spiderdalek49/im-not-a-hero

https://soundcloud.com/spiderdalek49/my-brother-just-died-from-into-the-dalek

There not perfect but I'm happy with the results. More so with the Into The Dalek cue than the Robot Of Sherwood cue.

Could you not edit those clean from episodes...?

Could you not edit those clean from episodes...?

Sadly not. Too much sound effects and echo of dialogue to be clean enough for proper listening. The sooner the Series 8 album Is announced the better.

That's interesting. So we have an eyewitness report from Tristam Cary that the BBC were trying to label his work as BBC property, and a now-vanished document seen by Brunt/Pixley that claimed that Synchrostings and Asyndeton were also BBC property - and all three of these things were omitted from the PasBs for The Moonbase... It's all starting to come together!



My thoughts exactly! Moonbase and Tomb are both such gorgeous and intricate soundscapes - always two or three things playing at once. God knows what went wrong on The Dominators.



I've unpicked Tomb as much as I'm going to. That was the first one I did! It's not too much of a mess - we've got all the main music tracks, which leaves:

1. Two Desmond Leslie tracks listed as appearing in part one whereas I can spot only one track in the episode that's unaccounted for ("Sting 1" on my Tomb #2 download). One of these is listed as "Band 8" of JW 232B - although that's impossible because that disc only has 5 tracks in total. (I've said it before and I'll say it again - I think this will turn out to be "Sting Tintabuloid")

2. A low, rhythmic pulsing that appears in Part 2 playing over Galaxy and the 'upstairs' Tomb chamber sound effect (Track 4 in my Tomb #2 download). It's not really distinct enough to identify. (It's possible that it's not a track at all and just some sort of aural artefact caused by the mixing of the other two tracks, although it doesn't seem to appear anywhere else...)

3. "Sting 4" from my Tomb #2 download ("If the Cybermen didn't shoot him, what did?"). Theory: I think this may well be another cue from Dramatic Brass Chords (i.e. in addition to Staccato Ending from Space Museum). I base this on the fact that it's a Chord, it's Brassy, and, indeed, Dramatic.

4. "Sting 6" from my Tomb #2 download. Less likely, but also possibly hailing from DBC. (Although if it is it's been slowed down and Hodgsoned half to death)

5. "Sting 7" from my Tomb #2 download (rising tones as Cybercontroller grabs Kleig) - God knows. It's a single note that's been played in reverse and "decayed", then the resulting sound reversed again so the distortion happens first before gradually resolving itself into the original note. Slight chance the source sound is a heavily treated DBC; also possibly purely radiophonic. Or something else entirely. (I live to be helpful.)

6. "Sting 8" from my Tomb #2 download ("You will be like us..."). Sounds Space Adventure-y but isn't. No idea.

7. Scraping the very bottom of the barrel now - an additional sting that's been overdubbed at the start of Synchrostings 2 where Ted Rogers gets electrocuted(!). Possibly another Synchrosting (although a quick fiddle in Audacity a few months ago couldn't replicate the sound...)

8. The "Swirley atmospherics" thing from Moonbase we were talking about earlier. It first appears at the end of the opening scene of part 2 (once Off Center finishes) then pops up randomly all over the place. It's a wonderfully intricate and textured piece (I was wrong earlier - it's far more music than sound effect.) I do hope it was a library piece as that means it might one day turn up.

9. Tomb background sound effect - half organ, half vocoder-esque effect. Love this too - I always picture it as a choir of Cybermen, singing away. It's really unlike anything else the RW were churning out at the time, which leads me to wonder if this too might be a library piece. Although that's probably just wishful thinking on my part, caused by a) me really wanting a copy of it, and b) someone having nicked the radiophonic Tomb master tape, meaning I can't. (Maybe they've got the PasBs for Web 3-6 as well...!)

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Oops:



I got this completely arse-around-tit. There is a record of a radiophonic master tape for Web Planet once existing (although it has since vanished). Good news though - this adds weight to your theory that Moonbase had no radiophonic involvement, which would mean that the "swirly atmospherics" piece would indeed be a library track.

Faceless Ones has no record of any radiophonic involvement either - which means that omnipresent electronic "Faceless Ones theme" might also be stock...

Remembering that according to documents that The Tomb of the Cybermen sound effects tape dosen't exist.

I have no idea what happened to cause it, but i do know WHY they sound awful.

...This is comparing the two versions of 'Anaesthesia' using spectrographic anlysis, with the download version on top and the vinyl version on the bottom. The vinyl version is identical except for some pops and crackles and---- wait what's that?



There's a massive pitch gap in the download version between 250 and 1000 hz, meaning almost all of the important low end pitch levels are missing from the download version...


Ok, so we've got a lovely version of Hypnosis, transferred from the masters, that is pristine and perfect in every way - apart from it's missing all the frequencies between 250 and 1000hz.

Then we've got another version from 55-year-old vinyl, which is generally more crackly, hissy and terrible but has those frequencies intact.

So.... I've taken the 78 vinyl rip and removed all the frequencies apart from 250-1000hz, matched the speeds, then welded the missing frequencies back onto the German download version - which sort of gives us the complete track! Ha! Take that, Weinberger!

https://mega.co.nz/#!QdlD1Y5I!NzAfYvv1mSW0ZXHR8IFt0P8bausTv7tlKFRCB-skjBo

That's Hypnosis at normal speed (Tomb and War Machines) and Hypnosis [SLOW] from The Moonbase.

Thanks to Gwylock for the heads-up!




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Remembering that according to documents that The Tomb of the Cybermen sound effects tape dosen't exist.

I know! And missing along with that tape is (presumably) the paperwork which will have recorded what the source tracks were before Brian Hodgson starting wobbulating them - so I'm just idly speculating on what some of the lost, original source tracks might be. Because I want them! :)

I've seen Sting Tintabuloid listed as B8 in places, that is to say for those who don't know, eighth track on side B but of JW 233, so wouldn't be surprised if the Director's Assistant wrote down or mistyped 232. The same track is 233 for The Space Museum PASBs. But I know.

And of course, they may have used 232, considering what's on it. May even be that creaky organ playing stuff in the Tomb scenes, you know, etc.

These two records are so rare though. Love to hear them. Some has been released but not these two bits. His music matches my mind.

The Poison Sky music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!hVhBQJ4T!aN6LDnzZrtddglLsDmbDjYkUtfemt-beqQgrYhiPc8k)

Ok, so we've got a lovely version of Hypnosis, transferred from the masters, that is pristine and perfect in every way - apart from it's missing all the frequencies between 250 and 1000hz.

Then we've got another version from 55-year-old vinyl, which is generally more crackly, hissy and terrible but has those frequencies intact.

So.... I've taken the 78 vinyl rip and removed all the frequencies apart from 250-1000hz, matched the speeds, then welded the missing frequencies back onto the German download version - which sort of gives us the complete track! Ha! Take that, Weinberger!

https://mega.co.nz/#!QdlD1Y5I!NzAfYvv1mSW0ZXHR8IFt0P8bausTv7tlKFRCB-skjBo

That's Hypnosis at normal speed (Tomb and War Machines) and Hypnosis [SLOW] from The Moonbase.

Thanks to Gwylock for the heads-up!




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I know! And missing along with that tape is (presumably) the paperwork which will have recorded what the source tracks were before Brian Hodgson starting wobbulating them - so I'm just idly speculating on what some of the lost, original source tracks might be. Because I want them! :)

But, in the 50th Anniversary Collection, Mark Ayres says "Hence we have a complete collection of Doctor Who sound effects - other than The Moonbose (1967), Fury from the Deep (1968), The Time Monster (1972) and Carnival of Monsters (1973), all of which are absent without leave." Was it found!?

But, in the 50th Anniversary Collection, Mark Ayres says "Hence we have a complete collection of Doctor Who sound effects - other than The Moonbose (1967), Fury from the Deep (1968), The Time Monster (1972) and Carnival of Monsters (1973), all of which are absent without leave." Was it found!?

Ooh, that's interesting. It may be a typo, but it's definitely interesting! Thanks for that.

*hopes it's not a typo*

EDIT:

Actually, I asked 'MArk' about the Tomb and Moonbase radiophonic masters elsewhere a while back. He said then that they were both AWOL. Hang on, I'll see if I can find it (and when it was)...

EDIT:

I asked him:


Do any of the radiophonically-treated library cues from Moonbase and Tomb still exist?


And he replied:


Sadly, no. In fact, the effects for both of those stories are missing.

MArk.


- He posted that on 28th May last year. Which, you'd imagine, would be after the Silva booklets had been finalised; if not actually printed (given that they were supposed to come out 5 months earlier). So "Tomb tapes found!" looks like a typo / omission, unfortunately. We live in hope though!




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And of course, they may have used 232, considering what's on it. May even be that creaky organ playing stuff in the Tomb scenes, you know, etc.

I know! I have all these thoughts myself! You'll have located the Desmond Leslie discs on Discogs, no doubt, and found some of the titles particularly tantalising: Inside The Spaceship! Lunar Soliloquy! I just know these are "Swirley Atmospherics" (I'm calling it that now) and the cyber-choir Tomb atmosphere! I can feel it in my water! (They won't be...)



His music matches my mind.

And now I'm scared.

Also, here is a list of what music exists according to the 50th Anniversary Collection.

The Daleks / The Daleks' Master Plan / The Gunfighters (Tristram Cary, 1963-1966)-Tristram retained masters and made DAT copies.
The Underwater Menace (Dudley Simpson, 1967) - recorded at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop; incomplete copy retained.
The Macra Terror (Dudley Simpson, 1967) - recorded at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop; incomplete copy retained.
Fury from the Deep (Dudley Simpson, 1968) - recorded at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop; copy retained.
The lnvasion (Don Harper, 1968) - Don retained a 7.Sips 11'1" tape copy and kindly supplied me with a DAT.
The Seeds of Death (Dudley Simpson, 1968)- copy retained in RWS archive.
The Silurians (Carey Blyton, 1970) - Carey retained a 7.S.ips 1/'1" tape and kindly loaned it to me so that I could take a DAT copy.
The Mind of Evil (Dudley Simpson, 1971) - recorded at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop; copy retained by Brian Hodgson and loaned to me in the early 1990s.
The Claws of Axos (Dudley Simpson, 1971) - recorded at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop; only one cue survives as part of an EMS Synthesiser demo record, for which Tristram Cary loaned me the master tape. Why did Tristram Cary have a Dudley Simpson cue? Because of EMS Synthesiser?
The Sea Devils (Malcolm Clarke / BBC Radiophonic Workshop, 1972) - masters retained at RWS.
The Mutants (Tristram Cary, 1972) - Tristram retained masters and made DAT copies for me.
Carnival of Monsters (Dudley Simpson, 1973). The original session tape for episode 1 was found in Delia Derbyshire's attic after her death. As such, it is without the synthesiser overdubs which were added later, and so this is how it is presented on this CD collection. Nothing else survives.
Frontier in Space (Dudley Simpson, 1973). A copy of the music for episodes 1 & 2 was found on the end of the archived effects tape for this story. Episodes 3-6 do not survive.
Death to the Daleks (Carey Blyton, 1974) Carey retained a 7.5.ips 1/4" tape and kindly loaned it to me so that I could take, DAT copy.
Planet of the Spiders (Dudley Simpson, 1974). Part of the original session tape for part 2 was found, bizarrely, at the Imperial College Television Studio and passed to me by Colin Grimshaw (thanks!) in 2003. As with Carnival of Monsters, it is without synthesiser overdubs which were added later.
Revenge of the Cybermen (Carey Blyton, 1975) - Carey retained 7.S.ips 1/4" tapes and kindly loaned them to me so that I could take a DAT copy.
Terror of the Zygons (Geoffrey Burgon, 1975) - Geoffrey retained a 1/4" tape and kindly loaned it to me so that I could take DAT copy.
The Android Invasion (Dudley Simpson, 1975) - The music for parts 3 & 4 was found, mislabelled, in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop archive. Episodes 1 & 2 are still missing.
The Seeds of Doom (Geoffrey Burgon, 1976) - Geoffrey retained a 1/4" tape and kindly loaned it to me so that I could take a DAT copy.
The Sun Makers (Dudley Simpson, 1977) - Complete: the master tapes of this music were held with the sound effects in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop archive.
The Invasion of Time (Dudley Simpson, 1978). A copy of the music for parts 3 & 4 only was found on the end of the archived effects tape for this story.

All of the above are monophonic recordings.

The Leisure Hive to Revelation of the Daleks (Various Composers, BBC Radiophonic Workshop, 1980-1985). The music for all episodes survives as original mono masters and/or Enterprises copies. Frontios (Paddy Kingsland, 1984) and Attack of the Cybermen (Malcolm Clarke, 1985) were uniquely recorded in stereo, with mono reductions supplied to the dubbing theatre. It should also be noted that Paddy Kingsland left the Radiophonic Workshop to set up his own studio during this period, so Mawdryn Undead and Frontios (1984) were freelance contributions. Paddy was kind enough to let me have digitised copies.

The Trial of a Time Lord Parts 1-4 (aka The Mysterious Planet) (Dominic Glynn, 1986). Masters held by Dominic Glynn, copies in the BBC Enterprises library.
The Trial of a Time Lord Parts 5-8 (aka Mindwarp) (Richard Hartley, 1986). No copy survives.The original multitrack for episode 1 turned up in 2011 but proved to be unplayable.
The Trial of a Time Lord Parts 9-12 (aka Terror of the Vervoids) (Malcolm Clarke / BBC Radiophonic Workshop, 1986). Masters held in RWS archive.
The Trial of a Time Lord Parts 13-14 (aka The Ultimate Foe) (Dominic Glynn, 1986). Masters held by Dominic Glynn; copies in the BBC Enterprises library

From this point, all music was recorded on stereo:

Time and the Rani (Keff McCulloch, 1987). Masters held by BBC Worldwide.
Paradise Towers (Keff McCulloch, 1987). Parts 1 & 2 Masters held by BBC Worldwide. Parts 3 & 4 from Mini Disc copy held by Keff.
Delta and the Bannermen (Keff McCulloch, 1987). From Mini Disc copy held by Keff. No masters survive.
Dragonfire (Dominic Glynn, 1987). Masters held by Dominic.
Remembrance of the Daleks (Keff McCulloch, 1988). From Mini Disc copy held by Keff. No masters survive.
The Happiness Patrol (Dominic Glynn, 1988). Masters held by Dominic.
Silver Nemesis (Keff McCulloch, 1988). Masters held by BBC Worldwide.
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy (Mark Ayres, 1988).Masters held by composer.
Battlefield (Keff McCulloch, 1989). Masters held by BBC Worldwide.
Ghost Light (Mark Ayres, 1989). Masters held by composer.
The Curse of Fenric (Mark Ayres, 1989). Masters held by composer.
Survival (Dominic Glynn, 1989). Masters held by Dominic.

One other oddity is a reel of music entitled "Doctor Who Library", by Dudley Simpson. It is privately-held and I am grateful to David Stead for loaning it to me. It consists of a number of short cues written for BBC Enterprises as "fillers" for foreign sales of the programme, based on elements of Dudley's original scores. It has been very hard to place itbut we believe it to have been recorded at Brian Hodgson's Electrophon Studios by Paddy Kingsland (moonlighting from the BBC!) in late 1975. Mysterious Robots (originality written for Robot) is taken from this reel.

Although, as indicated above, most Doctor Who music until 1987 was recorded in mono, some cues had been remixed in stereo and combined with sound effects to produce suites for two LPs - Doctor Who - The Music (1983) and Doctor Who - The Music II (1985). Many of these suites are featured on discs 3, 4 and 5 of this collection, and I have used them as style guide for new suites I have made for other stories.

Mark Ayres
October 2013

Many thanks for that. There's one thing I can answer:


The Claws of Axos... only one cue survives as part of an EMS Synthesiser demo record, for which Tristram Cary loaned me the master tape.

Why did Tristram Cary have a Dudley Simpson cue? Because of EMS Synthesiser?

Yes, exactly right - because of the EMS synthesizer. I think he was involved with EMS generally and was partly responsible for the development of the "Synthi 100" - which, IIRC, is the one we know and love as the Delaware.

There were two promo discs for the EMS range (both including tracks from Deadly Dudley), one of which you can download here - if those Approaching Axons don't get you first...

Synthi Albums (http://www.thesynthi.de/index.php?/categories/19-Synthi-Albums#post-59)

That's MC Tristram Cary spinning the platters, apparently!

Also, his middle name was "Ogilvie".

Hey everyone! Sorry about the absence! I hope you all had a wonderful couple of holidays and are enjoying 2015 so far!

I have to say, ImpossibleEgo, your collection is just beautiful! The stuff on those really are very well put together, and also to gwylock1, brilliant work on the City of Death performance!

I also have two new Doctor Who soundtracks in my big ol' soundtrack stash, the Day & Time of the Doctor OST and Cold Worlds, if anyone needs FLACs of those I can oblige, I also got a handful of new DVDs recently, so if I re-organise my Photo Gallery collection, I'll be sure to have it here :)

That aside I hope you are all well! :D

All the links on page 1 are pushing up daisies, snuffed it, deceased. And I've thoroughly searched FFF for any live links to any of these, and, weirdly, there are none. Not a one. But as I see people from here linking to other sites quite often, I'm assuming it's safe to offer this. I discovered that these (page 1 soundtracks) are all available in beautiful sounding flac with all the art in torrent form at:
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3349337
Forty minute download for 12 disks.

I also got a handful of new DVDs recently, so if I re-organise my Photo Gallery collection, I'll be sure to have it here :)

I'd really appreciate it if you could upload all of the photo gallery tracks that you previously offered to upload in flac (Or just the ones I appear to be missing in flac) but ultimately uploaded in mp3 and any new ones in flac. Here's all I have for Classic DVD photo galleries (https://mega.co.nz/#F!9dB23BxQ!jVPEK2j9osZVNLcFNteq6Q). (I can get Castrovalva, The Kings Demon and Planet of Fire, I just haven't ripped them yet.)

Have we had this one before? It's the 2005 promo version of the theme - "Do you wanna come with me?", etc:

*revised link*:


https://mega.co.nz/#!VENx3Dab!kF2fg5-N4zQ_UaoN5M9tnAoTzbcyAza8HK-GBXiso0o

Have we had this one before? It's the 2005 promo version of the theme - "Do you wanna come with me?", etc:

https://www.mediafire.com/?8upuuaj7oj975n0

"Permission Denied. "Doctor Who Theme Album Version" by Murray Gold may be available for download from Amazon"...

I've not seen it posted on here but I think it has been posted elsewhere before.

I'd really appreciate it if you could upload all of the photo gallery tracks that you previously offered to upload in flac (Or just the ones I appear to be missing in flac) but ultimately uploaded in mp3 and any new ones in flac. Here's all I have for Classic DVD photo galleries (https://mega.co.nz/#F!9dB23BxQ!jVPEK2j9osZVNLcFNteq6Q). (I can get Castrovalva, The Kings Demon and Planet of Fire, I just haven't ripped them yet.)

And recently i posted the photo gallerys for Invasion of the Dinosaurs and The Android Invasion (includes 40 seconds of unreleased music).

Link to all of my photo gallerys (https://mega.co.nz/#F!hUJRHSrB!sRY5m-WgoK-g-17nwoD8PA)

Also, don't know if anyone else picked it up but the moment in Death in Heaven when The Doctor tells Clara he found Gallifrey, the music played is called "Pain Everlasting", from the series 7 soundtrack and The Name of the Doctor. The name is quite fitting for what happens in that scene in Death in Heaven.

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MUST READ: Information on "Doctor Who Library" by Dudley Simpson (http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/5431)

I really want it released!

Also, don't know if anyone else picked it up but the moment in Death in Heaven when The Doctor tells Clara he found Gallifrey, the music played is called "Pain Everlasting", from the series 7 soundtrack and The Name of the Doctor. The name is quite fitting for what happens in that scene in Death in Heaven.

Yes, I noticed several reused tracks in Death in Heaven and have edited them into my rip, which I can post on here if anybody wants me to. ('91 Flying Cybermen' ('Upgrade in Progress'), 'Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart', 'Danny Lets the Kid Come Back...' ('I Might Change My Mind'), 'I Found Gallifrey...' ('Pain Everlasting'), and 'The Doctor Leaves Clara' ('Beginning of the End') are all of the tacks I noticed and updated.)


MUST READ: Information on "Doctor Who Library" by Dudley Simpson (http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/5431)

I really want it released!

So it's 42 pieces of music (originally 43, but the guy who 'saved' this couldn't copy over the last cue that lasted 49 seconds), lasting around half an hour in total, comprising of cues and stings, with the longest being over 2 minutes and the shortest clearly being a sting as it only lasts 2 seconds, 'The Music lists titles for pieces of music, but not the stories used for them' so we do not know what stories these come from (It would be nice to know the titles so we might be able to get some ideas of which cues were re-recorded and from which stories), although some of these were used for french dubs of Robot and Planet of Evil, so some cues from those stories will have most-likely been re-recorded (and we already have one cue that was re-recorded for Robot). They are re-recordings of the music but will have had to match the originals well, so they would mix well enough with the actual music used in the episode to make the foreign dub work and judging by 'Mysterious Robots', they must all be very good matches to the original cues! I too feel that this NEEDS to be released in its entirety.

Oops duplicate post...

Yes, I noticed several reused tracks in Death in Heaven and have edited them into my rip, which I can post on here if anybody wants me to. ('91 Flying Cybermen' ('Upgrade in Progress'), 'Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart', 'Danny Lets the Kid Come Back...' ('I Might Change My Mind'), 'I Found Gallifrey...' ('Pain Everlasting'), and 'The Doctor Leaves Clara' ('Beginning of the End') are all of the tacks I noticed and updated.)



So it's 42 pieces of music (originally 43, but the guy who 'saved' this couldn't copy over the last cue that lasted 49 seconds), lasting around half an hour in total, comprising of cues and stings, with the longest being over 2 minutes and the shortest clearly being a sting as it only lasts 2 seconds, 'The Music lists titles for pieces of music, but not the stories used for them' so we do not know what stories these come from (It would be nice to know the titles so we might be able to get some ideas of which cues were re-recorded and from which stories), although some of these were used for french dubs of Robot and Planet of Evil, so some cues from those stories will have most-likely been re-recorded (and we already have one cue that was re-recorded for Robot). They are re-recordings of the music but will have had to match the originals well, so they would mix well enough with the actual music used in the episode to make the foreign dub work and judging by 'Mysterious Robots', they must all be very good matches to the original cues! I too feel that this NEEDS to be released in its entirety.

I'm afraid they are not very good matches at all except the Robot one! In fact, a lot of the original soundtrack is retained by the French dub until someone speaks then there is nothing or something new. The sound effects are authentic but they don't match exactly. So don't expect slavish reconstructions because they are not!

"Permission Denied. "Doctor Who Theme Album Version" by Murray Gold may be available for download from Amazon"...

I've not seen it posted on here but I think it has been posted elsewhere before.

Clever Mediafire. It's not even the same track!

Try again:

https://mega.co.nz/#!VENx3Dab!kF2fg5-N4zQ_UaoN5M9tnAoTzbcyAza8HK-GBXiso0o

Again, that's the unique promo version that was used only on the original Eccleston trailers.

Clever Mediafire. It's not even the same track!

Try again:

https://mega.co.nz/#!VENx3Dab!kF2fg5-N4zQ_UaoN5M9tnAoTzbcyAza8HK-GBXiso0o

Again, that's the unique promo version that was used only on the original Eccleston trailers.

Thank you! I was looking for this! Where did you find it?

Again, that's the unique promo version that was used only on the original Eccleston trailers.

How come right at the end of the track it seems to be leading into the first track from Rose? Is this taken from the version of Rose that was leaked before its broadcast?

I can't help but notice how similar 12's theme in Death in Heaven "Love is a Promise" is to the second half of "UNIT Arrive" in the 'Series 4: The Specials' soundtrack compiled by CGCJ (thanks for the tracks btw, great job). And on to a question, am I allowed to use the soundtracks for a fan-series as long as I credit you all?

I can't help but notice how similar 12's theme in Death in Heaven "Love is a Promise" is to the second half of "UNIT Arrive" in the 'Series 4: The Specials' soundtrack compiled by CGCJ (thanks for the tracks btw, great job). And on to a question, am I allowed to use the soundtracks for a fan-series as long as I credit you all?

If you're referring to Chris666eden's soundtrack that I compiled, Chris666eden was the one who originally edited the tracks clean and uploaded them individually. I merely sorted them together and compiled them into one link, so you'll probably have to ask Chris666eden. If you're referring to my rip of the music, then sure, it's not like I actually own the music.

Yes, I noticed several reused tracks in Death in Heaven and have edited them into my rip, which I can post on here if anybody wants me to. ('91 Flying Cybermen' ('Upgrade in Progress'), 'Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart', 'Danny Lets the Kid Come Back...' ('I Might Change My Mind'), 'I Found Gallifrey...' ('Pain Everlasting'), and 'The Doctor Leaves Clara' ('Beginning of the End') are all of the tacks I noticed and updated.)



So it's 42 pieces of music (originally 43, but the guy who 'saved' this couldn't copy over the last cue that lasted 49 seconds), lasting around half an hour in total, comprising of cues and stings, with the longest being over 2 minutes and the shortest clearly being a sting as it only lasts 2 seconds, 'The Music lists titles for pieces of music, but not the stories used for them' so we do not know what stories these come from (It would be nice to know the titles so we might be able to get some ideas of which cues were re-recorded and from which stories), although some of these were used for french dubs of Robot and Planet of Evil, so some cues from those stories will have most-likely been re-recorded (and we already have one cue that was re-recorded for Robot). They are re-recordings of the music but will have had to match the originals well, so they would mix well enough with the actual music used in the episode to make the foreign dub work and judging by 'Mysterious Robots', they must all be very good matches to the original cues! I too feel that this NEEDS to be released in its entirety.

Whatever the outcome is, we still have Heathcliff Blair's Planet of Evil recreation. But i do believe they are close to the originals. I've compared Mysterious Robots to Episode 1 of the story and it fit's in nicely.

Planet of Evil is actually now a pretty unique story in a music/sound effects point of view, with what was made/exists.

Original Score - Not found
French Dub
Heathcliff Blair recreation
Sound Effects by Peter Howell

How come right at the end of the track it seems to be leading into the first track from Rose? Is this taken from the version of Rose that was leaked before its broadcast?

Definitely two very different arrangements.

Here's the opening and ending titles from the original workprint of "Rose" (https://mega.co.nz/#!MMkUzYqD!w9yIa46fnTi_0TyoRRPqPXrpgKY4YZwZz_Oi28F prxc). (Only in 128, sorry.)

ETA: Yes, these are the actual versions used on the workprint as I still have the digital file of the workrpint version of "Rose" so I'm very much positive that's what the theme sounds like.

How come right at the end of the track it seems to be leading into the first track from Rose? Is this taken from the version of Rose that was leaked before its broadcast?

What impossibleego said - it's not from the leaked Rose. I've no idea why, to be honest. I'm not aware of any version of the episode that uses that version of the theme.

Copies of that mix were definitely 'out there' for promotional purposes - IIRC, it "premeried" on the Chris Moyles Breakfast Show - but I cannot think of any reason why any such CD would include the Rose music too.


Thank you! I was looking for this! Where did you find it?

It was from a private mailing list / forum for fans of UK TV presentation: idents / test card music and the like. (I was drawn to it by the smell of library music.) That's the only interesting Who-related thing there, as far as I recall. I'd send you the link but they went invite-only a year to two back (cannot begin to imagine why) and I have no powers to invite anyone. :(

Definitely two very different arrangements.

Here's the opening and ending titles from the original workprint of "Rose" (https://mega.co.nz/#!MMkUzYqD!w9yIa46fnTi_0TyoRRPqPXrpgKY4YZwZz_Oi28F prxc). (Only in 128, sorry.)

ETA: Yes, these are the actual versions used on the workprint as I still have the digital file of the workrpint version of "Rose" so I'm very much positive that's what the theme sounds like.

That is the 5.1 opening and closing titles used in Terror of the Zygons DVD release.

And recently i posted the photo gallerys for Invasion of the Dinosaurs and The Android Invasion (includes 40 seconds of unreleased music).

Link to all of my photo gallerys (https://mega.co.nz/#F!hUJRHSrB!sRY5m-WgoK-g-17nwoD8PA)

This is a fantastic collection EagleShooter, and it fills quite a few gaps in the ones I have! Like you have Revenge of the Cybermen, and I have Genesis of the Daleks & Terror of the Zygons! I'll get mine sorted and I'll make like you & CGCJ and post them in MEGA. I've just compared our three versions of The Dalek Invasion of Earth, and it seems yours is the highest bit-rate! What was your method of ripping the Galleries? CGCJ told me he used Magic DVD Ripper and put them in Audacity and converting to FLAC, but your Dalek Invasion of Earth is higher than his!

That is the 5.1 opening and closing titles used in Terror of the Zygons DVD release.

Not quite, though the opening theme does source part of the recording

That is the 5.1 opening and closing titles used in Terror of the Zygons DVD release.

Again, these are what are used on the workprint version of the episode. I sourced them directly from the file. The Zygons DVD release was years later so if ANYTHING the DVD used this version in a remixed form.

This is a fantastic collection EagleShooter, and it fills quite a few gaps in the ones I have! Like you have Revenge of the Cybermen, and I have Genesis of the Daleks & Terror of the Zygons! I'll get mine sorted and I'll make like you & CGCJ and post them in MEGA. I've just compared our three versions of The Dalek Invasion of Earth, and it seems yours is the highest bit-rate! What was your method of ripping the Galleries? CGCJ told me he used Magic DVD Ripper and put them in Audacity and converting to FLAC, but your Dalek Invasion of Earth is higher than his!

Well I put photo galleries that hadn't made their way up here on here.

Looking Thru the Episode Albums. I Have S4 Partners in Crime, Pompeii & The 2 Sontarans... Did I Miss The Planet of the Ood Or Has That Not Been Posted As Yet??

Andd What Has Been Posted Of S3??I Have Eps 1 + 2

Looking Thru the Episode Albums. I Have S4 Partners in Crime, Pompeii & The 2 Sontarans... Did I Miss The Planet of the Ood Or Has That Not Been Posted As Yet??

Andd What Has Been Posted Of S3??I Have Eps 1 + 2

That's all I have + Voyage of the Damned (Not too great quality wise and is cut far too much) and I ripped the two series 3 Dalek episodes and posted them here. (I have 5.1 copies of series 3&4 so if no one else will rip the music from them I will.) Planet of the Ood is yet to be posted. I believe Mortadelo is working through series 4, while I am going to work through series 3 with the three Master final episodes being the next ones I plan to rip.

Excellent thanks. So that is all thats left. I have 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 & 8. Plus specials. So brilliant. Oh did last christmas get posted? Again i mau have missed lol.

Thanks again for doing all these.

Excellent thanks. So that is all thats left. I have 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 & 8. Plus specials. So brilliant. Oh did last christmas get posted? Again i mau have missed lol.

Thanks again for doing all these.

I do not have any episode from series 6 except for The Impossible Astronaut. (I acquired series 3 in 5.1 and that has halted me continuing with ripping series 6 but once I have ripped the remaining episodes of series 3 I will resume ripping series 6 episodes.) Yes, Last Christmas has been posted (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/237.html#post2629026) (It's probably best you save this link and check it often as I update it after I post anything new)

I just checked and yes no series 6 :p

And brill i will bookmark that post thanks again

so remainder of s3,4 and 6.
i am all caught up lol thanks again.

This is a fantastic collection EagleShooter, and it fills quite a few gaps in the ones I have! Like you have Revenge of the Cybermen, and I have Genesis of the Daleks & Terror of the Zygons! I'll get mine sorted and I'll make like you & CGCJ and post them in MEGA. I've just compared our three versions of The Dalek Invasion of Earth, and it seems yours is the highest bit-rate! What was your method of ripping the Galleries? CGCJ told me he used Magic DVD Ripper and put them in Audacity and converting to FLAC, but your Dalek Invasion of Earth is higher than his!

You've said that i've got the highest bit-rate for "The Dalek Invasion of Earth". Now i've got stories that CGCJ has already uploaded so if they are a higher bitrate, should i upload?

You've said that i've got the highest bit-rate for "The Dalek Invasion of Earth". Now i've got stories that CGCJ has already uploaded so if they are a higher bitrate, should i upload?

What dragonOllie wanted to know was how you got it to be so high a bitrate and what was your method of ripping the photo gallery?

Looking Thru the Episode Albums. I Have S4 Partners in Crime, Pompeii & The 2 Sontarans... Did I Miss The Planet of the Ood Or Has That Not Been Posted As Yet??

I have to do Planet of the Ood rip yet... But I'm too busy this days. Sorry :(

No Rush My Friend I Was Just Making Sure I Was All Up to Date Which I Am Now Thanks to CGCJ

Would anyone have a link too Season 8 Music Please? :)

What dragonOllie wanted to know was how you got it to be so high a bitrate and what was your method of ripping the photo gallery?

Don't forget that the existing bitrate is not necessarily a reflection of the source bitrate. I've come across mp3s at 320kbps but turned out the original was 128kbps. A better encoding rate doesn't always equate to better sound quality!!

Would anyone have a link too Season 8 Music Please? :)

Complete series 8 music rips can be found here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/237.html#post2629026).

Thanks so much

Utopia music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!MJgj3ZrD!1cGgZCZpAtND-5uluKM_Q2-ekdwPuJeUbCVgDhhlbaw) (It is a great shame that we don't have the 'This is Gallifrey' variation that is used as a theme for Professor Yana as a clean track!)

Omg i am looking so forward to these 3 and the eventual s4 daleks lol

Thankyou.

Complete series 8 music rips can be found here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/237.html#post2629026).

I'm sorry, I must be blind because I don't see the link in that post and would like it as well. Could you post it here?

I'm sorry, I must be blind because I don't see the link in that post and would like it as well. Could you post it here?
The links are there, you just need to click the 'show' buttons and then the links are the blue text.

Utopia music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!MJgj3ZrD!1cGgZCZpAtND-5uluKM_Q2-ekdwPuJeUbCVgDhhlbaw) (It is a great shame that we don't have the 'This is Gallifrey' variation that is used as a theme for Professor Yana as a clean track!)

Or the epic ATSSC Variation when YANA Opens the Watch. That version and the version in 42 with the airlock scene are the 2 definitive versions of it to me.

Also that gallifrey variation. Is that the piano one when the doctor & Yana discuss the system being made out of food? I LOVE that version. I'll try to recreate it and post it here.

i plan on uploading some SJA Cues soon for someone on here and you all :) Also would anyone care for some photo gallery Music from my DVD Collection so far?

i plan on uploading some SJA Cues soon for someone on here and you all :) Also would anyone care for some photo gallery Music from my DVD Collection so far?

Thanks in advance for the SJA tracks! Also, me and EagleShooter6 have both uploaded our photo gallery collections but if you have a chance of uploading new photo gallery tracks then that'd be great! :D

Thanks in advance for the SJA tracks! Also, me and EagleShooter6 have both uploaded our photo gallery collections but if you have a chance of uploading new photo gallery tracks then that'd be great! :D

No worries :) by any chance you have link too all them so i know witch ones not been uploaded i may have :) Thanks

No worries :) by any chance you have link too all them so i know witch ones not been uploaded i may have :) Thanks

Don't worry, just upload the lot, I can sort through as there's quite a few we have but not in the source quality (For SJA tracks) And here's all I have for Classic DVD photo galleries (https://mega.co.nz/#F!9dB23BxQ!jVPEK2j9osZVNLcFNteq6Q) (This also includes EagleShooter's tracks as well)

Inspired by impossibleego's work ;)

https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/rose-suite

We've had most of these tracks uploaded here in dribs and drabs over the months, so I thought I'd collect them all together:

Inferno

https://www.mediafire.com/?10mbjra1774q71a

1. Souls in Space – St. George [1-7]
2. Crazy Sounds No.4 – Cecil Leuter [1]
3. Attack of the Alien Minds – Brian Hodgson [1]
4. The Delian Mode – Delia Derbyshire [1-5,7]
5. Battle Theme – St. George [1-7]
6. Mysterious 1: Omen of Fear [SLOW] [2,4]
7. Gothic Submarines - Delia Derbyshire & Brian Hodgson [2]
8. "Dimension Whizz"
9. Blue Veils and Golden Sands - Delia Derbyshire [2]
10. Build Up To... - Vorhaus [2, 3]
11. Cosmic Sounds No.5 – Georges Teperino [3]
12. UNKNOWN: Electronic Rising Swoops background [3]
13. Homeric Theme – Vorhaus [3,6]
14. Mysterious 1: Omen of Fear [3]
15. UNKNOWN: “Blackout” [3,4,6,7]
16. UNKNOWN: “Echo Piano” [7]

OTHER BITS

Electronic Links - Eric Peters - - - on the PasB for part 7 but does not appear
Mysterious 2-6

A couple of discoveries: another Standard Music Library track - "Gothic Submarines" - makes a brief appearance and "Mysterious 1" appears most of the time slowed down (a 78 played at 45 rpm, as usual - and possibly with extra reverb or distortion, or something).

"Attack of the Alien Minds" is used in part 1 but with something else dubbed over it. I've included the original track and a rip from the episode too, you lucky people (it's a racket).

I've included a couple of sound effects: the thing I've called "Blackout" is generally used when Stahlman takes a funny turn - but it also appears at the end of part 6 as the lava's rolling towards the hut.

I've also remade the fantastic Cosmic Sounds 5 sequence using the raw track with a loop of the the electronic swooping sounds ripped from the episode.

Finally, we have the echoing piano piece from part 7. It's not "Electronic Links" (will those PasBs ever sort their act out?) and remains on the wants list.

(If anyone needs it on Mega as well, just shout!)

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And I forgot a couple of things from Tenth Planet - firstly, Space Adventures 2 is used in most sequences speeded up (no, it is!) so here's a clean version of that; also a rip of that unidentified thing from part 3 that isn't from Drumdramatics 10:

https://www.mediafire.com/?2we1i7v81cbyxt1

The End Of The World (Suite) (https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/the-end-of-the-world-suite)

Does anyone have a fully clean version of the previously music from "The Wedding of River Song"? I love that variation of I am the Doctor

Inspired by my own yacking on about that invite-only TV presentation forum earlier, I decided to have a browse through their download files and found a couple of interesting* things that I'd forgotten about:

Crystal Clear Audio presents... (http://www.mediafire.com/download/6ep0a6qabta69xh/Crystal_Clear_Audio_presents....zip)

- End of Grandstand / intro to Seeds of Death 6

- trailer for some now-forgotten sci-fi toss from the end of War Games 10.

These were recorded by the same man who recorded those audio snippets of Out of the Unknown that weren't on the boxset. (The quality of these clips might help explain why not...)

Actually - if anyone has those fragmentary OOTU clips, I'd love to hear them!

Re: the War Games clip: someone on the pres forum noted that the backing track to the trailer "sounds like an excerpt from a track from Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan's album "Song of the Second Moon" (Philips) - another track from the same album was the theme for 'Bleep and Booster'." And that's not just Tom Dissevelt, that's Tom "Faceless Ones" Dissevelt!!

* YMMV




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And speaking of Bleep and Booster (before my time, I hasten to add):

innerspace (http://www.mediafire.com/listen/u2lbrwbujq4o9kr/innerspace.mp3)


...this is another track from "Song of the Second Moon", called "The Visitor from Inner Space". You may know the front and end of it better as the theme from "Bleep & Booster" that appeared in Blue Peter in the 60s. Now here it is in full, in glorious stereo. Apologies for the slight wandering azimuth; next time I have a turntable I'll lift it off the vinyl. Like the other track, cleaned up and denoised/declicked; the distortion is a natural 'feature' of vinyl. In fact this album must have been almost impossible to cut, especially in stereo. Released only a few years after stereo albums began to be issued, this early electronic material... was quite an achievement.

I don't even know what an azimuth is, let alone a wandering one...

It's a nice track, though...

Thanks in advance for the SJA tracks! Also, me and EagleShooter6 have both uploaded our photo gallery collections but if you have a chance of uploading new photo gallery tracks then that'd be great! :D

Link to my photo gallery collection: https://mega.co.nz/#F!hUJRHSrB!sRY5m-WgoK-g-17nwoD8PA

CGCJ, i think you left some out.

Link to my photo gallery collection: https://mega.co.nz/#F!hUJRHSrB!sRY5m-WgoK-g-17nwoD8PA

CGCJ, i think you left some out.
I'm sure I didn't leave any out. Everything that you had that I don't own on DVD I imported direct from your link into my folder... (Renamed and sorted into story order, not by Doctor)

The Sarah Jane Adventures - Music Cues - (Found These On My Hard Drive)
https://mega.co.nz/#!cAcwTA7J!jjp6IddEkEeHq4DR1Wc3KwuNo4mkUxFZFMxZifO Tvlc

The Sarah Jane Adventures - Music Cues - (Found These On My Hard Drive)
https://mega.co.nz/#!cAcwTA7J!jjp6IddEkEeHq4DR1Wc3KwuNo4mkUxFZFMxZifO Tvlc

Thanks. Is that all you have? I'd have thought that as you have some of the tracks from series 4 that were later removed that you'd also have the other series 4 tracks that were also up at the same time; 'So Where's Will Smith', 'The Doctor? My Doctor?' and 'Zapped Back to Earth'. (I'm guessing that, judging by the bit-rates, these are all recordings? Also, which tracks are from Sam Watt's site/SoundCloud account?)

The End Of The World (Suite)V2 (https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/the-end-of-the-world-suitev2)

Second version. Now with the original Doctor's Theme!

Thanks. Is that all you have? I'd have thought that as you have some of the tracks from series 4 that were later removed that you'd also have the other series 4 tracks that were also up at the same time; 'So Where's Will Smith', 'The Doctor? My Doctor?' and 'Zapped Back to Earth'. (I'm guessing that, judging by the bit-rates, these are all recordings? Also, which tracks are from Sam Watt's site/SoundCloud account?)

I Shall look on my other Hard Drives see if any more i have :) Also not sure on witch ones are from witch site due too was long time when i downloaded them but sure if i come Across anything more shall let you know & upload them :)

The Unquiet Dead (Suite) (https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/the-unquiet-dead-suite)

Aliens Of London/World War Three (Suite) (https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/aliens-of-londonworld-war-three-suite)

So Photo Galleries we do not have are

The Chase
The Gunfighters
The Underwater Menace (when it comes out)
The Tomb of the Cybermen (2002 DVD), anyone have it, does it contain a feature?
The Seeds of Death (2003 DVD), anyone have 2003 DVD?
Inferno (2006 DVD), anyone have 2006 DVD? Is it the same to the special edition?
The Claws of Axos (Both Versions), anyone have 2005 DVD?
The Mutants
The Time Monster
Planet of Evil
The Brain of Morbius
The Masque of Mandragora
The Hand of Fear
The Talons of Weng-Chiang (2003 DVD), anyone have 2003 DVD?
Horror of Fang Rock
Image of the Fendahl
Underworld
The Creature from the Pit
Nightmare of Eden
The Horns of Nimon
The Leisure Hive
The Visitation (Both Versions), anyone have 2004 DVD?
Black Orchid
The Awakening
Frontios
The Twin Dilemma
Vengeance on Varos (2002 DVD), anyone have it, does it contain a feature?
The Mark of the Rani
Timelash
Time and the Rani
Paradise Towers
Delta and the Bannermen
Remembrance of the Daleks (2001 DVD), anyone have it, does it contain a feature?
Ghost Light
Survival

Don't forget that the existing bitrate is not necessarily a reflection of the source bitrate. I've come across mp3s at 320kbps but turned out the original was 128kbps. A better encoding rate doesn't always equate to better sound quality!!

Unless remastering has been done on the original files... ;)

So Photo Galleries we do not have are

The Aztecs (2002 DVD), anyone have it, I sold mine and didn't rip the photo gallery before I did :(
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Found an old file "Aztecs Photos" on a hard drive [must be ripped from the old DVD as the date is 2008] and that gallery only has the console room hum with a "whoosh" effect every time the photo changes. Two minutes of that is no fun to listen to. TBH it gets really annoying pretty quick!
For those that are interested, the original sound bitrate is 192kb [uncompressed from DVD].

Found an old file "Aztecs Photos" on a hard drive [must be ripped from the old DVD as the date is 2008] and that gallery only has the console room hum with a "whoosh" effect every time the photo changes. Two minutes of that is no fun to listen to. TBH it gets really annoying pretty quick!
For those that are interested, the original sound bitrate is 192kb [uncompressed from DVD].

That reminds me now of it, could we just have it for collection purposes please?

Sound ripped as wav so the file is probably far bigger than it needs to be but I don't really know how to do this properly so that seemed safest. Original file's soundtrack data is "192Kbps, 48.0 KHz, 16 bits, 2 channels, AC-3 (DVD-Video)".

AZTECS Photo Gallery 2002 (https://mega.co.nz/#!FAtjhToY!xE_4qHAUVFVrul7IYvuKnyV1p4zr8SO4vqJCt3i DfC4)

IIRC the earliest Photo Galleries were slides not video montages and didn't have any sound at all. So for example Tomb, Ark in Space, Androzani might have been like that originally.

Sound ripped as wav so the file is probably far bigger than it needs to be but I don't really know how to do this properly so that seemed safest. Original file's soundtrack data is "192Kbps, 48.0 KHz, 16 bits, 2 channels, AC-3 (DVD-Video)".

AZTECS Photo Gallery 2002 (https://mega.co.nz/#!FAtjhToY!xE_4qHAUVFVrul7IYvuKnyV1p4zr8SO4vqJCt3i DfC4)

IIRC the earliest Photo Galleries were slides not video montages and didn't have any sound at all. So for example Tomb, Ark in Space, Androzani might have been like that originally.

Thanks. Do u have any more?

So Photo Galleries we do not have are
The Ark in Space (Both Versions), anyone have 2002 DVD?
The King’s Demons
Planet of Fire

I can post these, although I already uploaded the special edition of The Ark in Space to Mega (I don't own the original release).

Thanks. Do u have any more?

Will check, must have had a few DVD galleries ripped back then because I do remember sometimes watching a few together on a playlist. It was some years ago now though, possible that "Aztecs" slipped through the net at some point while deleting old files and was the only one to be saved!

Will check, must have had a few DVD galleries ripped back then because I do remember sometimes watching a few together on a playlist. It was some years ago now though, possible that "Aztecs" slipped through the net at some point while deleting old files and was the only one to be saved!

Like the BBC junking the missing episodes...

Now be completely honest here chaps. I've downloaded a few of these photo gallery rips, ripped a few myself too, but they're pretty hit and miss. Which ones are really worth having? I'm really only talking about the first four Doctor's as well here.

Now be completely honest here chaps. I've downloaded a few of these photo gallery rips, ripped a few myself too, but they're pretty hit and miss. Which ones are really worth having? I'm really only talking about the first four Doctor's as well here.

The Key to Time ones are easy to avoid. They keep falling back onto the tedious Time Lord chimes from The War Games to pass the time, ignoring a lovely palette of sound effects, on the grounds that they didn't match the pictures no doubt, WHICH DOESN'T BLEEDING MATTER.

Inspired by impossibleego's work, here it is my Series 1 unreleased suites compilation:




UNRELEASED MUSIC FROM
THE CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON ERA

01. Doctor Who - Opening Theme (Unused) [0:45]*
02. Rose (Suite) [2:55]**
03. The End of the World (Suite) [7:02]***
04. The Unquiet Dead (Suite) [1:31]
05. Aliens Of London/World War Three (Suite) [9:25]
06. Dalek (Suite) [8:22]
07. The Long Game (Suite) [2:50]
08. Father's Day (Suite) [3:32]
09. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances (Suite) [8:42]
10. Boom Town (Suite) [11:22]
11. Bad Wolf (Suite) [10:38]
12. The Parting of the Ways (Suite) [11:07]
13. Doctor Who - Closing Theme [1:30]

* From Series 1 trailer.
** New version with 'Doomsday' variation.
*** Second version with the original 'Doctor's Theme'

ALTERNATE SUITES

Rose (Alternate Suite) (https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/rose-suite)
The End of the World (Alternate Suite) (https://soundcloud.com/david_mortadelo/the-end-of-the-world-suite)

Suites by Mortadelo
Thanks to CGCJ, Amanda and
Chris666eden for Series 1 clean tracks
MP3 320 kbps
79:33

https://mega.co.nz/#!XEF0BDBA!mbmwTmrHPiX1DQN3xzV5BxYXZ6hhoVLcpNBeVL4 Y8PE

UNRELEASED MUSIC FROM
THE CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON ERA

It seems to link to Partners in Crime...

It seems to link to Partners in Crime...

Oops! I'm so sorry! Link fixed now :)

Mortadelo, big thanks for that - much appreciated!

The Race to Free Rose (From 'Bad Wolf') (https://mega.co.nz/#!FcAiUTjR!b8bVgqOflrfDD0atVNmhCIVm1xTqx8l5jf05QaX PqJg) (Here's my attempt at recreating the music for when The Doctor, Jack and Lynda race to save Rose from the Anne Droid, using clean tracks; 'The Long Game', 'The Final Stand' and 'Deadly Games'. This can replace track 16 in my Bad Wolf rip.)

I can post these, although I already uploaded the special edition of The Ark in Space to Mega (I don't own the original release).

Yes please and anyone else who has any that we don't have.

Here you go EagleShooter; The King's Demons (https://mega.co.nz/#!hQIg1RrB!7lOyvxaFUbYCJn7iJi8jynh6sxCWyiS5BAXjNhW zmCU) and Planet of Fire (https://mega.co.nz/#!dMYh1Y6D!q6NRDJ2Yk4sOSkN59S5-dTx1Psg_YU7LsiHz-XRCUp4) DVD photo gallery tracks.

Here you go EagleShooter; The King's Demons (https://mega.co.nz/#!hQIg1RrB!7lOyvxaFUbYCJn7iJi8jynh6sxCWyiS5BAXjNhW zmCU) and Planet of Fire (https://mega.co.nz/#!dMYh1Y6D!q6NRDJ2Yk4sOSkN59S5-dTx1Psg_YU7LsiHz-XRCUp4) DVD photo gallery tracks.

Thank You!

@ CGCJ

Track 11 of "Daleks Take Manhattan Keeps Having An Error at 98% of Extraction. Any Possibility of A Re-Up Of That Track?

@ CGCJ

Track 11 of "Daleks Take Manhattan Keeps Having An Error at 98% of Extraction. Any Possibility of A Re-Up Of That Track?

Here you go (https://mega.co.nz/#!0cYgjDbA!raw2h--Q4CdYi7KIl0Ww0yrAfVuPpNTU0V1ebSuwRc8) (I hope you meant Daleks in Manhattan)

Yes LOL

Thanks

Edit

Track 11 Sorry

Track 11 Sorry
Here you go... (https://mega.co.nz/#!gcYWkZrT!WGdAq4aUDWZswZ5z4hVzRTdy9QRL9RV9zI_pvKH GCSI)

Off Topic, but in case anyone with an interest in James Bond and music is interested:

Kickstarter project for a complete rerecording of the Moonraker score by John Barry (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/681802762/moonraker-new-recording)

Here you go... (https://mega.co.nz/#!gcYWkZrT!WGdAq4aUDWZswZ5z4hVzRTdy9QRL9RV9zI_pvKH GCSI)

Thanks Again

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Sorry CGCJ

That Is Track 11 of Evolution of the Daleks... I Need Daleks in Manhattan.

I'm Sorry for the Fuss

Sorry CGCJ

That Is Track 11 of Evolution of the Daleks... I Need Daleks in Manhattan.

I'm Sorry for the Fuss

Here you go, finally... (https://mega.co.nz/#!1JYiSIgA!8UmvGXqu7fGdvJGLb4PC1c69ahb6G0-qhGaKmTjjNqc) (Hopefully I've finally gotten the requested track...)

Here you go, finally... (https://mega.co.nz/#!1JYiSIgA!8UmvGXqu7fGdvJGLb4PC1c69ahb6G0-qhGaKmTjjNqc) (Hopefully I've finally gotten the requested track...)

Thats The One LOL Thanks Again :)

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Sorry Now Track 6 of the Next Doctor Will Not Extract.

Sorry Now Track 6 of the Next Doctor Will Not Extract.
Here you go (https://mega.co.nz/#!UQhXGTqT!ZTKHVuoM-wUUAZsDnI3OHMPRKjpm8K6ZcEXv--CQ5Qo).

Thanks

Has anyone else noticed differences in music in the boxset release and the broadcast of the End of Time: Part 2? Namely when David Tennant regenerates into Matt Smith, the 'The New Doctor'. There seem to be 2 versions of this track, one featured on iTunes (the boxset release) and one floating around the Internet (broadcast). Does anyone happen to have the broadcast release and the boxset to compare to one another?

Has anyone else noticed differences in music in the boxset release and the broadcast of the End of Time: Part 2? Namely when David Tennant regenerates into Matt Smith, the 'The New Doctor'. There seem to be 2 versions of this track, one featured on iTunes (the boxset release) and one floating around the Internet (broadcast). Does anyone happen to have the broadcast release and the boxset to compare to one another?

Do you mean Chris666eden's track 'GERONIMO' which is an alternate variation of 'The New Doctor' that is from the Confidential episode for The End of Time part 2? There's no difference at-all between the soundtrack and the track as heard in the episode.

Is There Any Active Links for "Silence in The Library" & "Stolen Earth" ?

Thanks In Advance

Is There Any Active Links for "Silence in The Library" & "Stolen Earth" ?

Thanks In Advance

The rips that we have for both of those are VERY poor and seem be from from low quality stereo video files, most likely the commonly circulated recording of the broadcast.

Oh Right. Okay. Thanks.
I Am Guessing On A List Of Eps to Be Ripped (At A Later Date)


If So. Thats Great I Am All Updated Thanks Again For the Help!! It Is Really Appreciated

I Am Guessing On A List Of Eps to Be Ripped (At A Later Date)
28 The Runaway Bride
31 Gridlock
34 The Lazurus Experiment
35 42
36 Human Nature
37 The Family of Blood
38 Blink
40 The Sound of Drums
41 The Last of the Time Lords
42 Voyage of the Damned (Although we already have this, this could really do with a better rip)
45 Planet of the Ood
48 The Doctor's Daughter
49 The Unicorn and the Wasp
50 Silence in the Library
51 Forest of the Dead (Although we already have this, this could do with a better rip)
52 Midnight
53 Turn Left (Although we already have this, this could do with a better rip)
54 Stolen Earth
55 Journey's End
76 Day of the Moon
77 The Curse of the Black Spot
78 The Doctor's Wife
79 The Rebel Flesh
80 The Almost People
81 A Good Man Goes to War
82 Let's Kill Hitler
83 Night Terrors
84 The Girl Who Waited
85 The God Complex
86 Closing Time
87 The Wedding of River Song
88 The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe

That's all that is left that we need ripped, I have 5.1 files for all of those (Except The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe), so if no one else will rip those, I will. (Sorry about the probably confusing numbers, I just list all of the new series together in a checklist so I know what we still need)

28 The Runaway Bride
31 Gridlock
34 The Lazurus Experiment
35 42
36 Human Nature
37 The Family of Blood
38 Blink
40 The Sound of Drums
41 The Last of the Time Lords
42 Voyage of the Damned (Although we already have this, this could really do with a better rip)
45 Planet of the Ood
48 The Doctor's Daughter
49 The Unicorn and the Wasp
50 Silence in the Library
51 Forest of the Dead (Although we already have this, this could do with a better rip)
52 Midnight
53 Turn Left (Although we already have this, this could do with a better rip)
54 Stolen Earth
55 Journey's End
76 Day of the Moon
77 The Curse of the Black Spot
78 The Doctor's Wife
79 The Rebel Flesh
80 The Almost People
81 A Good Man Goes to War
82 Let's Kill Hitler
83 Night Terrors
84 The Girl Who Waited
85 The God Complex
86 Closing Time
87 The Wedding of River Song
88 The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe

That's all that is left that we need ripped, I have 5.1 files for all of those (Except The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe), so if no one else will rip those, I will. (Sorry about the probably confusing numbers, I just list all of the new series together in a checklist so I know what we still need)

No No Thats Great No I Know Where I Stand! Thats Great I Am All Up to Date Thats Brill. Thanks A Ton. And Thanks For the Help It Is Great And Really Appreciated.

Edit.
And I Saved The List As To Avoid Asking Again! LOL

I think Voyage of the Damned, Forest of the Dead and Turn Left are good rips. The worst are Silence in the Library, The Stolen Earth and Journey's End.

I will do rips for Planet of the Odd, The Doctor's Daughter, The Unicorn and the Wasp, Midnight and Journey's End. I can do Silence in the Library and The Stolen Earth too.

I think Voyage of the Damned, Forest of the Dead and Turn Left are good rips.

Yes, they're good quality but I find them to be cut too much, especially Voyage of the Damned and Turn Left, Forest of the Dead could be done in a better quality (It's only 192kbps).

Well, for now I'll do music rips for Planet of the Odd, The Doctor's Daughter, The Unicorn and the Wasp, Silence in the Library, Midnight, The Stolen Earth and Journey's End.

Ok, this is what I've picked up for reused music in series 8 that has been released, any that I've missed?

The Leaf
Clara?
Song for Four/Home
Beginning of the End
The Terrible Truth
Locked On
Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart
I Might Change my Mind
Upgrade in Progress
Pain Everlasting

Off Topic, but in case anyone with an interest in James Bond and music is interested:

Kickstarter project for a complete rerecording of the Moonraker score by John Barry (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/681802762/moonraker-new-recording)

One of my least favourite Bond films but oddly one of my all-time favourite Bond scores.

Go figure.

Off Topic, but in case anyone with an interest in James Bond and music is interested:

Kickstarter project for a complete rerecording of the Moonraker score by John Barry (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/681802762/moonraker-new-recording)

I wish someone would do something like this for the missing Dudley Simpson scores - the Heathcliff Blair recordings were ok but too far from the original sound for my liking, however the cue from Talons of Weng-Chiang by Mark Ayres et al was a fantastic close recreation!

I wish someone would do something like this for the missing Dudley Simpson scores - the Heathcliff Blair recordings were ok but too far from the original sound for my liking, however the cue from Talons of Weng-Chiang by Mark Ayres et al was a fantastic close recreation!

Recreations have been made of Dudley Simpson music, heard on documentaries and photo galleries on DVD (The Ambassadors of Death, Genesis of the Daleks, The Invasion of Time, maybe some more), as you said there is the Heathcliff Blair recordings. He also recorded as a rough demo tape of Spearhead From Space ('Auton in the woods'), The Masque of Madragora ('Tardis trapped in Helix') and City of Death ('Paris touring music'). We also have a reel of music called "Doctor Who Library", which was recorded at Brian Hodgson's Electrophon Studios by Paddy Kingsland in late 1975, which is cues from Robot and Planet of Evil. And of course we have the original scores complete or incomplete.

And that one cue that was found after the 50th Anniversary releases..., anyone asked Mark Ayres details on it?

... He also recorded as a rough demo tape of Spearhead From Space ('Auton in the woods'), The Masque of Madragora ('Tardis trapped in Helix') and City of Death ('Paris touring music')...

That's interesting. Did anyone ever get a copy of these? I'd love to hear them.

That's interesting. Did anyone ever get a copy of these? I'd love to hear them.

Heathcliff Blair, Silva Screen or Mark Ayres could have them if they still exists.

He also recorded as a rough demo tape of Spearhead From Space ('Auton in the woods'), The Masque of Madragora ('Tardis trapped in Helix') and City of Death ('Paris touring music'). And that one cue that was found after the 50th Anniversary releases...

Where did you hear of these...?

Where did you hear of these...?

http://www.millenniumeffect.co.uk/

First you click Audio, then click soundtrack music, then click after that the Pyramids of Mars release. They also have other interesting information on other releases.

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Also does anyone have this: Disasters - BBC Sound Effects No. 16? It contains according to Millennium Effect, a track called 'Swarming Insects' is actually Dick Mills' sound effect of the Nucleus hatching tanks in The Invisible Enemy. It is acknowledged in sleevenotes.

http://www.millenniumeffect.co.uk/

First you click Audio, then click soundtrack music, then click after that the Pyramids of Mars release. They also have other interesting information on other releases.

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Also does anyone have this: Disasters - BBC Sound Effects No. 16? It contains according to Millennium Effect, a track called 'Swarming Insects' is actually Dick Mills' sound effect of the Nucleus hatching tanks in The Invisible Enemy. It is acknowledged in sleevenotes.

I don't, but for info, it also appears to be track 83 on the BBC's Combat and Disasters Sound Effects CD

Does anyone have a fully clean version of the previously music from "The Wedding of River Song"? I love that variation of I am the Doctor

I Am The Doctor (Orchestral Variation) (http://www.mediafire.com/listen/hyblcyx82c68424/I_Am_The_Doctor_(Orchestral_Variation).mp3)

This is as clean as I'm ever going to get it. There's a few Ambiance sounds that are very quiet but no sound effects or dialogue echo at all.

I Am The Doctor (Orchestral Variation) (http://www.mediafire.com/listen/hyblcyx82c68424/I_Am_The_Doctor_(Orchestral_Variation).mp3)

This is as clean as I'm ever going to get it. There's a few Ambiance sounds that are very quiet but no sound effects or dialogue echo at all.

Thanks a bunch! This is my all-time favorite build-up track. Love all variations of it (this is the cleanest though)

Do you mean Chris666eden's track 'GERONIMO' which is an alternate variation of 'The New Doctor' that is from the Confidential episode for The End of Time part 2? There's no difference at-all between the soundtrack and the track as heard in the episode.

Yeah, that's it. I'm having a hard time finding the confidential episode of the End of Time part 2, also. Damn my luck!

I don't, but for info, it also appears to be track 83 on the BBC's Combat and Disasters Sound Effects CD

Thanks recons, does anyone have this?

I Am The Doctor (Orchestral Variation) (http://www.mediafire.com/listen/hyblcyx82c68424/I_Am_The_Doctor_(Orchestral_Variation).mp3)

This is as clean as I'm ever going to get it. There's a few Ambiance sounds that are very quiet but no sound effects or dialogue echo at all.

Pretty amazing. Very clean and I like the percussion from 'The Beast Below' version in there!

On another note: Here is my attempt at the music from '42'. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5H-8ZbpQsdjNG5wTC04eVJyaTg/view?usp=sharing

Does anyone have a clean rip, or a good recreation of the music from the 50th anniversary trailer?

Does anyone have a clean rip, or a good recreation of the music from the 50th anniversary trailer?

There's this (https://soundcloud.com/spiderdalek49/day-of-the-doctor-opening-theme) but having not seen the trailer in months, I'm not sure how much of the music is incorporated or changed.

Thanks, that actually sound pretty good. Although it's not exactly the same version. Is there any way to download this?

I don't know if sounddrain downloads the music at the same quality, but it's worth a shot. And then there's the permission to actually download

I've just finished editing the series 5 rips that we have, incorporating all of the soundtrack tracks (Except 'Vampires of Venice', that track is cut up too much in the episode) and I now have an almost clean complete score to A Christmas Carol (Having a soundtrack all to itself helped). I can upload these new edits of the rips if anyone wants me to. (All of the unreleased stuff is the same, I haven't done any additional ripping of tracks)

I would be very interested please and thankyou.

The Beast Below (https://mega.co.nz/#!NYhh2A5Q!Q8EI5oitmXQW_tAhBU3AnX0tHrn5G7Z8BZvWtxv qivY) (Track 11 edited from Adventure Games tracks)

Lets Give It A Gander :) Thankee

Victory of the Daleks (https://mega.co.nz/#!8IoFHTpT!loQN8NU6zBD4D0XPYYwJnvE3orHHw-nFhFXWyV5k8n4) (Track 1 is from Adventure Games)
Vampires of Venice (https://mega.co.nz/#!kcYhHLJB!VTjvF3mBVDX7JHULdmhYRndmYZ5ytn27L2GWom-P4U8)
Amy's Choice (https://mega.co.nz/#!cVglwSIK!RAf62aE3NFr7yJugeCkn0KMzfV6bYkLLqCSGS0i B2Fw)

http://www.millenniumeffect.co.uk/
That's a very interesting site!

"The Evil of the Daleks: Episode 1

The music on Bob Hall’s radio in the aircraft hanger is a stock track; the BBC production paperwork lists it as ‘Youngbeat’ by Jack Trombey, though this track does not actually match what is heard in the programme, and the track actually used may never be found again!"... :P

That's a very interesting site!

"The Evil of the Daleks: Episode 1

The music on Bob Hall’s radio in the aircraft hanger is a stock track; the BBC production paperwork lists it as ‘Youngbeat’ by Jack Trombey, though this track does not actually match what is heard in the programme, and the track actually used may never be found again!"... :P

This site is quite old, bless him. I found the track and I posted it a few weeks ago. It's called Mexican Beat from the same album Young Beat and I use it as my alarm call on my phone!

Perhaps someone ought to tell him?

Forget it. Gnawingagony beat my crap broadband speed! :-)

***

So let me get this straight. DW fans in Germany have decided that they like the programme so much, they're going to hold a convention - Germany's 1st - ...and then they name it after the one of the worst episodes in the whole history of the series!

http://timelash-event.de/

I........ liked Timelash.......

I........ liked Timelash.......

I liked the music... and Paul Darrow.

I........ liked Timelash.......

I did too, after a fashion (and Paul Darrow doing Laurence Olivier!), but I would choose a better story to name my convention after...

The Sound of Drums music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!wAwnSAZZ!ZY3X2_trDiDhNdmy_IXvQX_C2XH377LbjXQN708 RDm8)

The Sound of Drums music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!wAwnSAZZ!ZY3X2_trDiDhNdmy_IXvQX_C2XH377LbjXQN708 RDm8)

Here come the drums, here come the drums!

I was on Doctor Who TV and looked through the comments for a poll about the best music of series 8. One comment asked about news on the Series 8 Soundtrack and another replied that it's mentioned in the Doctor Who 2015 year book that its estimated to be released early 2015 around late february/march time.

So we could expect the next Murray Gold release soon. I can't wait!


Reading the Year book right now. it seems Mark Ayres was given ALL the original Series 1 cues from the dubbing team in Cardiff but due to copyright was unable to include them in the final disc and so had to use the re-recorded stuff. He was very dissapointed and regrets the omission of it cause he felt it was a great example of how the music had changed into the style Murray does now. But apparently Murray Gold wanted the re-recorded stuff on the disc too (hmmmmm)

Silva Screen's Managing Director David Stoner definitely says and I qoute "The soundtrack to Peter Capaldi's first series is expected in the new year"

Murray also didn't want to compose music for Day Of The Doctor because it used a lot of themes from past episodes (the way David words that sounds like the sound mix we got with day of the doctor was the original and then all the tracks on the Day/Time CD are newly recorded for the album.)

I was on Doctor Who TV and looked through the comments for a poll about the best music of series 8. One comment asked about news on the Series 8 Soundtrack and another replied that it's mentioned in the Doctor Who 2015 year book that its estimated to be released early 2015 around late february/march time.

So we could expect the next Murray Gold release soon. I can't wait!

I hope so... Remember the grey album from doctorwhomusic.com... It can be Series 8 soundtrack

You can read the soundtrack pages from the 2015 year book here:

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I hope so... Remember the grey album from doctorwhomusic.com... It can be Series 8 soundtrack



It seems VERY likely that spot is for the Series 8 Album. They don't have any past albums coming out, And Series 8 is the last (recent/up to date) Murray Gold album Silva need to release.

When the site updated last year those 2 grey boxes were there at the same time. Then the Day/Time album was added so I take it the Series 8 Album is not that far behind if A spot is already made for it.

Reading the Year book right now. it seems Mark Ayres was given ALL the original Series 1 cues from the dubbing team in Cardiff but due to copyright was unable to include them in the final disc and so had to use the re-recorded stuff. He was very dissapointed and regrets the omission of it cause he felt it was a great example of how the music had changed into the style Murray does now. But apparently Murray Gold wanted the re-recorded stuff on the disc too (hmmmmm)

Now knowing this has REALLY made me have some hope of the original series 1 recordings ever being officially released... even if Murray for whatever reason doesn't want them being released, I mean, come on, it would sell, and surely that's enough to warrant such a soundtrack? (Also, knowing that we were so close to getting them has only strengthened my dislike of the 50th soundtrack (I dislike it as it really was mostly just re-released tracks and hardly anything new.))

Now knowing this has REALLY made me have some hope of the original series 1 recordings ever being officially released... even if Murray for whatever reason doesn't want them being released, I mean, come on, it would sell, and surely that's enough to warrant such a soundtrack? (Also, knowing that we were so close to getting them has only strengthened my dislike of the 50th soundtrack (I dislike it as it really was mostly just re-released tracks and hardly anything new.))

I still have this idea that Murray is holding back on releasing the original cues for a complete set when he eventually leaves as Doctor Who Composer. It would be a good send off album which has all the cues he started out with on his first day and can also include stuff missing from the other albums.

For those who don't have access to the Doctor Who 2015 Yearbook:

Fast forward to 2005... There was a problem. The then-head at BBC Worldwide had other ideas for a more commercial album with EMI Records, involving remixing old Radiophonic Workshop cues by current dance DJs, mixed in with Murray Gold's cues from series one. The album was never released, but it effectively blocked us from releasing anything for a year and a half.

If I'm honest, my biggest regret is that there is no original soundtrack music for the Ninth Doctor on the set. Murray re-recorded it all for the Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack album and wanted to use those versions, so although I cut together a Ninth Doctor disc consisting entirely of original soundtrack material supplied by the dubbing team in Cardiff, we were unable to include it. That's my biggest disappointment; there is a big gap in the history of the programme, and its music bridging the use of synthesisers and samples (As Murray did in 2005) to the use of the full live orchestra.

...and the soundtrack to Peter Capaldi's first series is expected in the new year.

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Thought this was an interesting little quote from Mr Ayres when asked about his various attempts at the theme tune:

I did do a demo for the New Series theme which was a surround remix of Delia's original with new electronic overdubs. But a taxi arrived at my door to relieve me of it and take it to Murray Gold who added strings and brass instead... and the rest is history!

From GB

For those who don't have access to the Doctor Who 2015 Yearbook:

I'm not a huge fan of Murray Gold's music, but I appreciate what he does and his significance for the revived show. For that reason, I share Mark Ayres' frustration that this important part of the show's musical heritage has effectively been blocked on the whim of the composer. I mean, sure he's got the right to block this kind of release, but he's surely got some sort of larger responsibility to the show? He's done pretty well out of it and it's not as if he wouldn't be rewarded for allowing this kind of release....

I'm not a huge fan of Murray Gold's music, but I appreciate what he does and his significance for the revived show. For that reason, I share Mark Ayres' frustration that this important part of the show's musical heritage has effectively been blocked on the whim of the composer. I mean, sure he's got the right to block this kind of release, but he's surely got some sort of larger responsibility to the show? He's done pretty well out of it and it's not as if he wouldn't be rewarded for allowing this kind of release....

Honestly I personally think his series 1/2 work was his best, the rest since has just felt very MEH. (Though series 8 was a massive step up)

Murray's work on Doctor Who has been some of the best composition for television. I don't know why he doesn't do more films...

Honestly I personally think his series 1/2 work was his best, the rest since has just felt very MEH. (Though series 8 was a massive step up)

I seriously loved the score for "The Girl In The Fireplace" as well as "Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday". Series 1 & 2 were more enjoyable score-wise for me as well.

Honestly I personally think his series 1/2 work was his best, the rest since has just felt very MEH. (Though series 8 was a massive step up)

I seriously loved the score for "The Girl In The Fireplace" as well as "Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday". Series 1 & 2 were more enjoyable score-wise for me as well.


My favourite Murray Gold scores have to be series 1, 2, 3 and 8 (coincidentally, those are the only (new series) series I can actually bare to watch as series 4-7 were just terrible...), and my favourite episode score of Murray's is probably either The Girl in the Fireplace (Though that may just be because we can hear all of it completely clean), The Long Game (I just love the score, especially 'Fine Cuisine...', 'Espionage' and 'Death of the Jagrafess') or any series 8 episode. (Their scores are all just so unique! Murray REALLY did do great with series 8.)

Murray's work on Doctor Who has been some of the best composition for television. I don't know why he doesn't do more films...

Do.... do you honestly.....think that??? No offence, I'm not saying your opinion's not valid, but.....?????????? Do you watch much TV other than Doctor Who?

Do.... do you honestly.....think that??? No offence, I'm not saying your opinion's not valid, but.....?????????? Do you watch much TV other than Doctor Who?

Not the same person, but I watch a lot of TV and to be honest a lot of TV music fails to match up to Murray's work. A lot of TV music can sound very generic and samey, but Doctor Who always manages to sound magical and unique.

Not the same person, but I watch a lot of TV and to be honest a lot of TV music fails to match up to Murray's work. A lot of TV music can sound very generic and samey, but Doctor Who always manages to sound magical and unique.

I'm sorry but "generic and samey" are words i tend to associate with Murray Gold

I'm sorry but "generic and samey" are words i tend to associate with Murray Gold

Agree to disagree. Each of Murray's soundtracks is amazing and sounds totally unique.

I May Have Missed It But. Has the 2CD 50th Anniversary Soundtrack Been Posted At All?

I May Have Missed It But. Has the 2CD 50th Anniversary Soundtrack Been Posted At All?
There's no difference between that and the 11 disk version, except, obviously, quite a lot of the tracks are removed or condensed into suites and some of the suites are shortened.

There's no difference between that and the 11 disk version, except, obviously, quite a lot of the tracks are removed or condensed into suites and some of the suites are shortened.
I suspect Mr Gold was referring to the 50th Anniversary Day of the Doctor/Time of the Doctor soundtrack

Reading that article... seems like the original plan for the series 1 soundtrack was to recycle stuff from the unfinished/unreleased Resistance Is Useless (aka Resistance Is Futile) remix album planned for the 40th anniversary.

I once had the Panopticon promo CD of that, with the 808 State and St Etienne tracks. I sold it on eBay a couple of years later for more than my Panopticon ticket, hotel stay and train ticket cost me at the time.

Not the same person, but I watch a lot of TV and to be honest a lot of TV music fails to match up to Murray's work. A lot of TV music can sound very generic and samey, but Doctor Who always manages to sound magical and unique.

Personal opinion from someone who listens to a LOT of television score music here: you seriously aren't listening to the right tv scores if you think Gold's work is so brilliant and unique. 90% of series 3 - 7 are pretty much indistinguishable from each other. I say this after I was working on those 11 discs for months that I compiled and I realized how much of Gold's work could easily be interchangeable between stories and, in fact, a lot of his "unique" themes are recycled over and over. I can play at least 15 different US and UK television scores with far more magical and unique scores... and that's just from 2005 onwards. If I included pre-2005 you'd hear so many more that blow Gold's work out of the water.

No offense intended but to say that his work doesn't suffer from sounding "generic and samey" is absolutely ridiculous.

Personal opinion from someone who listens to a LOT of television score music here: you seriously aren't listening to the right tv scores if you think Gold's work is so brilliant and unique. 90% of series 3 - 7 are pretty much indistinguishable from each other. I say this after I was working on those 11 discs for months that I compiled and I realized how much of Gold's work could easily be interchangeable between stories and, in fact, a lot of his "unique" themes are recycled over and over. I can play at least 15 different US and UK television scores with far more magical and unique scores... and that's just from 2005 onwards. If I included pre-2005 you'd hear so many more that blow Gold's work out of the water.

No offense intended but to say that his work doesn't suffer from sounding "generic and samey" is absolutely ridiculous.

Personally I'd say you aren't listening to Gold properly if you can't distinguish between five-and-a-half series' worth of his music. Where exactly are his themes "recycled"? They're repeated in the right places, sure, because... they're themes. They all sound different and easily distinguishable, except for those purposefully intended to evoke another theme or connect one character to another (The Doctor Forever and Martha's Theme, for instance). Could you give any examples of scores you think work better than Gold's? Is it purely a matter of taste? Technically speaking, Gold's bold, thematic approach is perfect for the RTD and Moffat models of Who.

Could you give any examples of scores you think work better than Gold's? Is it purely a matter of taste? Technically speaking, Gold's bold, thematic approach is perfect for the RTD and Moffat models of Who.
Off the top of my head, just a few examples of TV music I personally find more dramatically effective and memorable than Murray's:
Dirk Gently, Sherlock, Elementary, Fringe, even The Sarah Jane Adventures! All of these firmly know what they're meant to be doing, supporting the emotion and action of the scenes they're scoring, whereas Murray goes in for re-using the same basic harmonies and "epic" motifs over and over to create "sonic wallpaper" alternating with over-the-top cheesy comedy music to basically tell the audience what to think, often in a way that comes off as very condescending and not very respectful of the audience.

Personally I'd say you aren't listening to Gold properly if you can't distinguish between five-and-a-half series' worth of his music. Where exactly are his themes "recycled"? They're repeated in the right places, sure, because... they're themes. They all sound different and easily distinguishable, except for those purposefully intended to evoke another theme or connect one character to another (The Doctor Forever and Martha's Theme, for instance). Could you give any examples of scores you think work better than Gold's? Is it purely a matter of taste? Technically speaking, Gold's bold, thematic approach is perfect for the RTD and Moffat models of Who.

After spending MONTHS sorting through ALL of Gold's music for Who I would say that I very much was listening to Gold properly. The over-the-top, "bold, thematic approach" that is prevalent from series 3 onwards gets to a point where the actual music drowns out the story itself and you could take a cue from "Voyage of the Damned" and place it over "Blink" and nobody would even notice. There is a problem in his Who work, and I'm suspecting this has to do more with the production side of it than his personal decisions, where the music all starts to become very similar and repetitive and I believe THAT is what the original commenter was saying his work was NOT as compared to every other television score out there. Yes he has a very distinct style, as a good composer should, but it irks me hearing "I Am The Doctor" or whatever piece 49 times in a season. A slight variance here and there in what instruments are brought forward or lowered does not mean its "original", it means its been remixed to lower that specific instrument and then thrown in wherever its needed. It is not a variation.

Do not get me wrong, I think Gold is quite talented, but he does what all composers of long-running series do... he has a format he sticks to to fit the show. All composers do it. Even with Classic Who a lot of the composers had very formulaic approaches to how they composed for Who. The same can be said for composers like Blake Neely who have a very distinct style and each of their shows has its own unique style that he crafts for that show. To say that Gold is so different and unique is simply not true. He is just the same as every composer out there in that he has his own style and he has a very distinct pattern he uses as a sort of cookie-cutter for his Who scores just like every other composer out there does for each show they work on. Nothing tremendously spectacular about his work specifically as compared to other artists. Is he good? Sure. Is he better than every other composer composing for television right now? Hardly.

Could I give you some examples of better work for television? Do you have the time for me to list off EVERY show I think has better music and composing than current Who? I'm not saying I dislike the Who music from 2005 onwards but I am saying tyhat other shows and composers handle their INCIDENTAL music much better. Gold's music tends to be forced on the audience as a character all its own. That is NOT "incidental".


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Off the top of my head, just a few examples of TV music I personally find more dramatically effective and memorable than Murray's:
Dirk Gently, Sherlock, Elementary, Fringe, even The Sarah Jane Adventures! All of these firmly know what they're meant to be doing, supporting the emotion and action of the scenes they're scoring, whereas Murray goes in for re-using the same basic harmonies and "epic" motifs over and over to create "sonic wallpaper" alternating with over-the-top cheesy comedy music to basically tell the audience what to think, often in a way that comes off as very condescending and not very respectful of the audience.

And the production teams have not helped but blasting the score over the dialogue so loudly at times so that you are forced to FEEL something they want you to feel. And unfortunately, at times, its not necessary.

I watch a great deal of television, gwylock and it is my personal opinion that Gold's scores for Doctor Who generally are better than nearly all of the series I've watched. Now, that being said, it doesn't in any way mean that I think the rest is shit, or of poor quality. Those scores are serviceable with what they have to work with and I do enjoy them in the context of their shows.

I hold Gold's work with such high esteem because I can hear the internal integrity of his scores, his ability to write memorable themes, leitmotifs and action music. One episode of Who has a score that is overall better than say, Elementary which I do think has a great title theme. I think if Doctor Who had been given over to other composers it might be very minimalist in style whereas the show with recurring characters and overarching themes, requires a dramatic and thematic approach.

The scores are going to walk the tightrope of what's incidental and what's complimentary and I think Gold handles this well. In fact, apart from the people on this forum, I've never heard much dislike for Gold's music apart from Seasons One and Two when the mixing was too high over the dialogue. I have friends whom watch more television than I do and have very little interest in any of the scores and they ask me for some of the music from Doctor Who.

It seems to me that there is a gulf between opinions here because I guess the purveyors of this particular thread must care more for the classic era music which I have no quarrel with, but I've never heard any sound opposition to the quality of Gold's work. Given that he has so much to write for each episode whereas shows like Elementary require about three writers, I think Murray has much to be commended for, even if someone on one subthread of a forum about film and television music thinks his music less than those of his peers.

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Oh and comparing Sean Callery to Murray Gold to me is like pitting Steve Jablonsky against John Williams. Both good composers, but leagues apart in quality.

You all have opinions and all of them are correct. This thread is full of awesome people who are always sharing the most awesome of things. Arguing about "who is right" about any music isn't cool at all.

It seems to me that there is a gulf between opinions here because I guess the purveyors of this particular thread must care more for the classic era music which I have no quarrel with, but I've never heard any sound opposition to the quality of Gold's work. Given that he has so much to write for each episode whereas shows like Elementary require about three writers, I think Murray has much to be commended for, even if someone on one subthread of a forum about film and television music thinks his music less than those of his peers.[COLOR="Silver"]


I never said I prefer anything over anything. I am saying that Gold's work is over-rated. He is not this epic genius everyone apparently thinks he is. And as for caring more for classic era music, I'm sorry but I classify ALL Who scores as ONE SHOW. Murray Gold is definitely higher up on my "like" list than other composers (not a HUGE fan of some of Tristram Cary's experimental phase on stories like "The Mutants" and I'm not mad about some of Dudley Simpson's work either) I would just like to see more people realize that some of us who listen to a LOT of music are just rather sick of hearing whining and complaining about how Murray Gold isn't getting the recognition he should (and this generally happens whenever a new collection like the 11 CD 50th anniversary set are released). People start flailing and gnashing their teeth about how Gold is not respected and everyone is only focused on the "classic" music and its so unfair that Gold gets ignored. I'm sorry, but I'm sick of that argument. Of the 50+ years of the show's history we have had more released from Gold than we have of any other composer. Full stop.

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You all have opinions and all of them are correct. This thread is full of awesome people who are always sharing the most awesome of things. Arguing about "who is right" about any music isn't cool at all.

I have never said I was right and someone else was wrong. I am defending my opinion and pointing out how sick I am of being made to feel like an elitist or, even better, someone who doesn't listen "closely" to the music because I don't think Gold's work is so fantastic. After the years of research and planning I put in to making the Era collections I have MORE than listened to all available music, and then some, for WHO. And, again this is a complaint I have with the production company, I have no choice be to listen to Gold's work as it drowns out dialogue on some episodes and that's all I CAN hear.

Its a difference of opinion, that is true. What I'm sick of is having to feel like I cannot express an opinion because I'm convinced that someone will go off and attack my opinion and completely miss the point of what I'm trying to say just because they are so convinced that the Classic Who fans (I'm neither a Classic nor a New Who fan... I am a Whovian. I love the entire show. Its not a two-part show. Its one, long, continuing series. ) have it in for the New productions. Its not a war for me. I just simply notice a lack of originality and I dared to point it out.

And as for Gold composing all of this himself where other shows require three or more composers... Blake Neely does it ALL THE TIME. And multiple shows at once. For several seasons. And each show has the distinct "Neely" style but each show has its own feel and mood. Its not a friggin' competition. Its honestly just music fans daring to point out that a composer is NOT as brilliant as everyone thinks he is.

impossibleego, you seem to have taken this as a personal attack against your opinion. I was responding to gwylock1's comment. Timbah's response was probably aimed at me.

First I must respond to this nonsense that because Gold has more music released over the classic series that means people should be quiet is because of three things:

1.) Marketing shifts and memorabilia for Television and film these days has thankfully allowed studios to release music and more of it than ever.

2.) The archival storage of the BBC was terrible. Many in this thread, including you impossibleego, know how difficult it is to find as much music as possible from what can be found. Some reels were lost, destroyed or simply weren't looked after since their use.

3.) Doctor Who music from the classic era is for a niche market. Consider that film music and television soundtracks in general are a niche product, then think about what the music for the classic era is worth. I don't think it's as marketable as the new series. I'm not bashing the music, it's just how it is.

I've never heard the argument before that there isn't enough released other than a few voices on this forum. It's annoying when nearly all of the music Gold created exists somewhere, safe and untouched and not much is released of it and this comes back to the point of marketability in a niche genre.

I've never heard such clamorous adoration for Gold except I and a few others. In fact it was gwylock1 who had instigated this argument astonished that because a composer he doesn't regard so highly is commended, he felt the need to question me on it. I have a friend who regards Taylor Swift higher than someone like John Williams and many other friends who think film music is shit and there we are thinking eachother is crazy for their bizarre tastes.

impossibleego, no one has suppressed you from expressing anything and it seems to me like you were anticipating some comments against the classic-era music.

No, not everyone thinks Murray Gold is as brilliant as everyone else would think, but be prepared when you respond to it, because no one is safe from criticism.


Just my personal opinion again is that as much as I enjoy The Flash as a series, I did think Neely delivered some serviceable music, but it did feel a tad bit generic.

impossibleego, no one has suppressed you from expressing anything and it seems to me like you were anticipating some comments against the classic-era music.

No, not everyone thinks Murray Gold is as brilliant as everyone else would think, but be prepared when you respond to it, because no one is safe from criticism.


Just my personal opinion again is that as much as I enjoy The Flash as a series, I did think Neely delivered some serviceable music, but it did feel a tad bit generic.

EVERYTIME someone has said anything that even remotely sounds to be "anti-Gold" on this forum someone immediately pipes up and claims that the person who has commented against Gold is just hating on the New Series and that they think the Classic episodes are superior.

And what irks me is that if someone said they didn't like Dudley Simpson or Paddy Kingsland's work it causes absolutely no brouhaha and yet let one person say they dislike the lack of originality in Gold's work and it sparks multiple responses all of which are generally directed at how horribly the classic fans treat the new series or some such thing. Its ridiculous.

And I find it humourous that I mentioned, flat out, that Neely has a very "Neely" style but his work on "The Flash" is absolutely distinctive from his work for "Brothers and Sisters" which is also quite different from his work for "Everwood" which was different than his work for "Eastwick". The thing with Gold's run at Who, and I'm going to say this AGAIN, is that his "themes" tend to get repeated far too often throughout the course of a season and I am convinced this is the production team's ultimate decision, not his. THAT is my main issue with his scores. Is it Murray's fault completely? NO. Does it disprove that I feel he too composes what you would describe as generic? NOPE. What amuses me here is that people seem to keep missing the point that soundtrack music, for the most part, is supposed to be incidental. Especially with television programs the music should gracefully compliment the scenes with which it is being paired. There have been far too many instances, again this is probably something to blame the production team for, where Gold's music is over the top and forced on us at ear-splitting levels and almost forcing the audience to "feel" what the team thinks we should feel. Incidental music is just that, incidental. Perhaps that's why you feel that shows such as "The Flash" or whathaveyou produce such "generic" music... they aren't trying to bombard the viewer with over the top melodies that drowned out everything else in the episode.

I'm sorry but I do take it a little personally that I have witnessed backlash thrown at people who vaguely hint that they dislike Gold's work on here and the same has happened again recently. I think that's a problem with a select few but honestly... its ALWAYS the same ones. Its rather like they want to bully the kids who have an opinion that differs from theirs until the kids shut up and submit. Well sometimes people finally lash back. I enjoy almost all elemnts of this particular threrad but I ahve watched for awhile now as anyone that disagrees about Gold is told how wrong they are and I'm sick of it.

this has probably been answered but Im lazy and don't feel like looking so any word on a Series 8 soundtrack :)

this has probably been answered but Im lazy and don't feel like looking so any word on a Series 8 soundtrack :)

"the soundtrack to Peter Capaldi's first series is expected in the new year."

EVERYTIME someone has said anything that even remotely sounds to be "anti-Gold" on this forum someone immediately pipes up and claims that the person who has commented against Gold is just hating on the New Series and that they think the Classic episodes are superior.

And what irks me is that if someone said they didn't like Dudley Simpson or Paddy Kingsland's work it causes absolutely no brouhaha and yet let one person say they dislike the lack of originality in Gold's work and it sparks multiple responses all of which are generally directed at how horribly the classic fans treat the new series or some such thing. Its ridiculous.

And I find it humourous that I mentioned, flat out, that Neely has a very "Neely" style but his work on "The Flash" is absolutely distinctive from his work for "Brothers and Sisters" which is also quite different from his work for "Everwood" which was different than his work for "Eastwick". The thing with Gold's run at Who, and I'm going to say this AGAIN, is that his "themes" tend to get repeated far too often throughout the course of a season and I am convinced this is the production team's ultimate decision, not his. THAT is my main issue with his scores. Is it Murray's fault completely? NO. Does it disprove that I feel he too composes what you would describe as generic? NOPE. What amuses me here is that people seem to keep missing the point that soundtrack music, for the most part, is supposed to be incidental. Especially with television programs the music should gracefully compliment the scenes with which it is being paired. There have been far too many instances, again this is probably something to blame the production team for, where Gold's music is over the top and forced on us at ear-splitting levels and almost forcing the audience to "feel" what the team thinks we should feel. Incidental music is just that, incidental. Perhaps that's why you feel that shows such as "The Flash" or whathaveyou produce such "generic" music... they aren't trying to bombard the viewer with over the top melodies that drowned out everything else in the episode.

I'm sorry but I do take it a little personally that I have witnessed backlash thrown at people who vaguely hint that they dislike Gold's work on here and the same has happened again recently. I think that's a problem with a select few but honestly... its ALWAYS the same ones. Its rather like they want to bully the kids who have an opinion that differs from theirs until the kids shut up and submit. Well sometimes people finally lash back. I enjoy almost all elemnts of this particular threrad but I ahve watched for awhile now as anyone that disagrees about Gold is told how wrong they are and I'm sick of it.

I don't see any backlash here. After gwylock's first comment I merely stated that I thought Gold's music has been the best compositions for television. This is some overreaction on your part ipossibleego. Where are the people shoving Murray Gold's brilliance down your throat? If a few comments on a forum thread is enough to piss you off, I'd have to ask where you've been and if you've ever taken in the irrational behavior of online polity.

I'm not going to say any of your opinions are wrong for if I tried to, I'd be labelled some vicious attacker, or you'd take personal offence.

What's more humorous to me, impossibleego is that if I had said that I thought that a majority of classic-era who music was just terrible, there would be greater backlash. I've said something like this before and my opinion on that era of Doctor Who music has been ridiculed and banished like a plague.

So I take it you are the arbiter of what Doctor Who music, or television music should be in general. It's not meant to be entirely incidental. During discussions early on with Murray Gold and the producers they were thinking of something of a thematic approach. It has to be appealing with bravado for children. With themes and leitmotifs we can hear the evolution of a character and their situations. The music had to suggest more than the imagery it is married with.

I know its nothing too do with music scores but would anyone happen to have any Classic DW Sound Effects - am working on a youtube project and it be a BIG Help Thanks

Since Track 14 of Last Christmas is so similar to Time of the Doctor's Hello Twelve, I decided to swap the tracks to see what it would sound like. And I'm glad to say that not disappointed (credited CGCJ for ripping track)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxFELhRVpmg

In the middle of Goldie discussion, I want to ask very important question: does anyone know what is happening with DrMatt?
He retuned sometime ago with two new revisions of his maginificient stuff, but now he is gone again. From couple of months...

Daleksarethemasters, on DrMatt's master post http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/193.html#post2532699 almost every full ost has its own pack of effects from particular story. There is also "30 Years at the Radiophonic Workshop" in compilation section.

I can upload DW effects vinyl re-released sometime ago and some other RW effects albums if you like. ;)

In the middle of Goldie discussion, I want to ask very important question: does anyone know what is happening with DrMatt?
He retuned sometime ago with two new revisions of his maginificient stuff, but now he is gone again. From couple of months...

Daleksarethemasters, on DrMatt's master post http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/193.html#post2532699 almost every full ost has its own pack of effects from particular story. There is also "30 Years at the Radiophonic Workshop" in compilation section.

I can upload DW effects vinyl re-released sometime ago and some other RW effects albums if you like. ;)

Thank you :) that be amazing Thanks

Does anyone know the track that is used in this trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Ckdpvg22w

I'm also wondering where Dr. Matt is.


dR

Last thing I think I understood from DrMatt is that he had computer problems. Presumably these have not been resolved or other things have happened to prevent him being on here. I really do miss his input here as well as his releases.

I am looking for "The Ultimate Evil" audio. I know Big Finish didn't make one but RIB or something (Rotary International?) did one for charity. Apparently it isn't available on its site, anyone seen it? I did look midway in this thread but saw no further information.

I am looking for "The Ultimate Evil" audio. I know Big Finish didn't make one but RIB or something (Rotary International?) did one for charity. Apparently it isn't available on its site, anyone seen it? I did look midway in this thread but saw no further information.
Probably best to ask at the audio drama thread (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-audio-drama-thread-85235/1091.html).

Warriors of Kudlak music rip (https://mega.co.nz/#!dQQ3UQqa!NDHOwpvm__rMMlrQFxrT41e6j3V_4Q62cMlJFOp XC_U)

Where might I find an update of some links? Ghost Light and Caves of Androzani seem to be deleted. Thanks!

Does anyone have the Murray Gold unused opening theme?

Does anyone have the Murray Gold unused opening theme?
The one used only for trailers for series 1? Funky1&2 uploaded it (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/334.html#post2860221).

Somebody asked for the Invisible Enemy sound effect issued by the Beeb. I managed to track down a copy of the CD. I thought someone might appreciate the rest of the SFX as well, so here's the album: Essential Wombat and Dazed-sister SFX (https://www.sendspace.com/file/eeb0lb) (The Invisible Enemy track is no. 83 Swarming Insects).

Somebody asked for the Invisible Enemy sound effect issued by the Beeb. I managed to track down a copy of the CD. I thought someone might appreciate the rest of the SFX as well, so here's the album: Essential Wombat and Dazed-sister SFX (https://www.sendspace.com/file/eeb0lb) (The Invisible Enemy track is no. 83 Swarming Insects).

I recognise a lot of the explosions and wind! And surely there is a Bok 'Whoosh' from The Daemons. And isn't the screaming public a bit Zygonesque? (They're the last but two).

Somebody asked for the Invisible Enemy sound effect issued by the Beeb. I managed to track down a copy of the CD. I thought someone might appreciate the rest of the SFX as well, so here's the album: Essential Wombat and Dazed-sister SFX (https://www.sendspace.com/file/eeb0lb) (The Invisible Enemy track is no. 83 Swarming Insects).

Yes that was me, thanks so much!

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The one used only for trailers for series 1? Funky1&2 uploaded it (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/334.html#post2860221).

Thanks for this!

So I'm trying to divide the soundtracks up into episodes since, after all, some music was specifically written for a cliffhanger, so it might sound better if the cliffhanger is actually there!

In the official "Ghost Light" release it has "Out of the Darkness" as one track, though it was split into two when it was the cliffhanger. Apparently, on the DVD the opening and closing titles were included in the isolated score. Has anyone here those? Thanks!

My Top 10 songs from each soundtrack (released by Silva Screen)

Series 1 & 2
1. The Lone Dalek
2. Rose Defeats the Daleks
3. I'm Coming to Get You
4. The Doctor's Theme
5. Seeking the Doctor
6. New Adventures
7. Monster Bossa
8. Westminster Bridge
9. Hologram
10. The Cybermen

Series 3
1. All the Strange, Strange Creatures (The Trailer Music)
2. The Carrionites Swarm
3. Drowning Dry
4. YANA (Excerpt)
5. Martha Triumphant
6. This Is Gallifrey: Our Childhood, Our Home
7. The Doctor Forever
8. The Dream of a Normal Death
9. The Futurekind
10. The Runaway Bride

Series 4
1. Song of Freedom
2. The Doctor's Theme Series Four
3. The Doctor's Daughter
4. A Pressing Need to Save the World
5. Corridors and Fire Escapes
6. The Source
7. A Dazzling End
8. Midnight
9. Life Among the Distant Stars
10. The Dark and Endless Dalek Night

Series 4 - The Specials
1. Vale Decem
2. Not the Doctor
3. By Water Borne
4. Final Days
5. Hidden in the Closet
6. The Greats of Past Time
7. The March of the Cybermen
8. Gallifrey
9. Four Knocks
10. Vale

Series 5
1. I Am the Doctor
2. The Mad Man with a Box
3. Victory of the Daleks
4. The Beast Below
5. This Is the Dream
6. A Troubled Man
7. A Useful Striker
8. Beneath Stonehenge
9. Words Win Wars
10. The Sad Man with a Box

A Christmas Carol (Top 3)
1. Abigail's Song (Silence Is All You Know)
2. Everything Has to End Some Time
3. Come Along Pond

Series 6
1. The Majestic Tale (of a Madman in a Box)
2. The Wedding of River Song
3. The Impossible Astronaut
4. 1969
5. Day of the Moon
6. Deadly Siren
7. Locked On
8. The Enigma of River Song
9. Lost in the Wrong Stream
10. 5:02 PM

The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe and The Snowmen
1. Clara in the TARDIS
2. You're Fired
3. Geronimo
4. Safe Landing
5. Flying Home for Christmas
6. Antifreeze
7. Never Alone at Christmas
8. Friendship
9. Clara Who?
10. A Voice in the Snow

Series 7
1. Pain Everlasting
2. Remember Me
3. Together or Not at All - The Song of Amy And Rory
4. A Machine That Makes Machines
5. Make Peace
6. The Salvation of Kahler-Jex
7. Our Little Town’s Prosecutor
8. Clara?
9. I Might Change My Mind
10. Infinite Potential

The Day of the Doctor / The Time of the Doctor
1. It's Him (The Majestic Tale)
2. England 1562
3. Two Doctors
4. Never Tell Me The Rules
5. This is How it Ends
6. Nice Horse
7. The War Room
8. The Mission
9. Beginning of the End
10. Song for Four (both versions)

To get back to the Murray Gold debate: I have no idea who Murray Gold is, or Blake Neely. I've never actually googled them to find out, tho' someday I suppose I will. Not the way I've become fascinated with a Dimitri Tiomkin, say, not ever having paid any attention to him until a couple months ago, finally coming to recognize that he was probably the pre-Goldsmith Goldsmith who could do just about anything and do it really, really well. But I sure do enjoy the Who and Arrow music. Both series have terrific soundtracks that really, truly do stand out from just about anything else on the tube. Are Gold or Neeley Tiomkin or Goldsmith? I don't think so. They're both solid, workman-like composers who get the job done and get it done well. Based on Who alone, I'd put Gold at precisely the same level as Howard Shore, who I greatly admire and whose work I have actively sought out for years. Shore gets the job done and usually gets the job done well. Is Shore a Tiomkin or a Goldsmith? Not even close. LOTR seems a brilliant inspired aberration. I don't know the story of the filming of The Hobbit but it seems fraught with ill-feeling and tension and I have to admit, having listened to 6 disks of Hobbit music, for me there's just nothing there worth listening to. Gold's I Am the Doctor is a much more rousing theme than anything Shore came up with for The Hobbit (including the mountains/forest/something nature theme that everyone seems to love) and I think Gold could have written a much better soundtrack for The Hobbit than what Shore produced. Both Gold and Shore have to be given credit for what they are: excellent workmanlike composers who (usually) get the job done.

I've watched Dr Who since the first episode and the show has evolved. The William Hartnell "music" is still my favorite. You can hear in the music over the years the change in the show's direction. The Hartnell music was eerie and mysterious and even frightening to reflect the tone of much of the show in those early days. The reboot music through Matt Smith reflects mostly a fun carnival ride through excitement and adventure. Those are the real high points of Who musically. In between, the music continues to reflect the changing Drs and the changing tones of the stories, with mixed success. Remember that before the reboot, DW had no budget at all and they did what they could with what they had. Which was usually excellent writing and a trust in the viewer's imaginations and willingness to suspend disbelief and ignore the creakiness of what they were seeing. Of course, post-Lucas audiences can't manage that anymore, so production values have to be really, really high to keep kids watching. And that's been reflected in the kinds of stories and the visuals and in the music. Gold has raised the bar considerably. There are a couple Christmas special soundtracks that I really hate but other than those, I think his work has been great - varied, often moving and often tremendously exciting. The producers have been really lucky to have found him and we're really lucky that Who is being merchandised so mercenarily that we're getting multiple disks for every new Dr. But just imagine how it could have been if they had gone with one of the post-Shirley Walker school of soundtrack writers? Eight or ten cds of Zimmerish or DeSplatish white noise? (Obviously not my favorite form of aural filler.)

So Neely does The Flash, too? Is there a soundtrack? Oh, boy!

To get back to the Murray Gold debate: I have no idea who Murray Gold is, or Blake Neely. I've never actually googled them to find out, tho' someday I suppose I will. Not the way I've become fascinated with a Dimitri Tiomkin, say, not ever having paid any attention to him until a couple months ago, finally coming to recognize that he was probably the pre-Goldsmith Goldsmith who could do just about anything and do it really, really well. But I sure do enjoy the Who and Arrow music. Both series have terrific soundtracks that really, truly do stand out from just about anything else on the tube. Are Gold or Neeley Tiomkin or Goldsmith? I don't think so. They're both solid, workman-like composers who get the job done and get it done well. Based on Who alone, I'd put Gold at precisely the same level as Howard Shore, who I greatly admire and whose work I have actively sought out for years. Shore gets the job done and usually gets the job done well. Is Shore a Tiomkin or a Goldsmith? Not even close. LOTR seems a brilliant inspired aberration. I don't know the story of the filming of The Hobbit but it seems fraught with ill-feeling and tension and I have to admit, having listened to 6 disks of Hobbit music, for me there's just nothing there worth listening to. Gold's I Am the Doctor is a much more rousing theme than anything Shore came up with for The Hobbit (including the mountains/forest/something nature theme that everyone seems to love) and I think Gold could have written a much better soundtrack for The Hobbit than what Shore produced. Both Gold and Shore have to be given credit for what they are: excellent workmanlike composers who (usually) get the job done.

I've watched Dr Who since the first episode and the show has evolved. The William Hartnell "music" is still my favorite. You can hear in the music over the years the change in the show's direction. The Hartnell music was eerie and mysterious and even frightening to reflect the tone of much of the show in those early days. The reboot music through Matt Smith reflects mostly a fun carnival ride through excitement and adventure. Those are the real high points of Who musically. In between, the music continues to reflect the changing Drs and the changing tones of the stories, with mixed success. Remember that before the reboot, DW had no budget at all and they did what they could with what they had. Which was usually excellent writing and a trust in the viewer's imaginations and willingness to suspend disbelief and ignore the creakiness of what they were seeing. Of course, post-Lucas audiences can't manage that anymore, so production values have to be really, really high to keep kids watching. And that's been reflected in the kinds of stories and the visuals and in the music. Gold has raised the bar considerably. There are a couple Christmas special soundtracks that I really hate but other than those, I think his work has been great - varied, often moving and often tremendously exciting. The producers have been really lucky to have found him and we're really lucky that Who is being merchandised so mercenarily that we're getting multiple disks for every new Dr. But just imagine how it could have been if they had gone with one of the post-Shirley Walker school of soundtrack writers? Eight or ten cds of Zimmerish or DeSplatish white noise? (Obviously not my favorite form of aural filler.)

So Neely does The Flash, too? Is there a soundtrack? Oh, boy!

There is one soundtrack available for "The Flash" currently (and officially) for "The Flash VS. Arrow". I THINK its been posted here on Shrine.

The Doctor Who Symphonic Spectacular 2015 has started touring in Australia. and the list of music being performed has leaked online.

ACT ONE:

A Good Man?
Wherever, Whenever (Anywhere In Time And Space?)
The Doctor's Theme/Song Of Freedom
The Companions
To Darkness
Last Christmas Suite

ACT TWO:

All The Strange Strange Creatures
The Impossible Girl
66 Seconds
The Pandorica Suite
Abigails Song
Fifty - This Is Gallifrey
Death In Heaven Suite

Theres a total of 6 pieces of music from Series 8 and 7 pieces of music previously played (released) at past concerts.
Could these Series 8 tracks be the official names that appear on the upcoming Album? Also the fact that they are playing a suite of music from Last Christmas could mean that music from that special could be included on the album.
A Good Man? might be the name of the 12th Doctor's theme.