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impossibleego
12-14-2013, 12:59 PM
I dunno where to find the time length info on the new set? Is the time estimate based on cd length in general? Or is there specific info about the length.

In case anyone missed it: Mark Ayres said that 10 discs are 78 minutes each and one is 60 minutes.

:)

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impossibleego, where did you get information that 9th's disc is 78 min.?
And also about "Limited Edition Packaging" - a lot of music from 1-7th Doctors were released in last years (4 vol. of Doctor Who at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop as example).
While we don't get final track-lists, it's hard to say - how much NEW material will be include.
And another question - why 4 CD-set is so cheap - about �3.5 per disc (if you buy it directly from Silva) - and 11 CD-set is so expensive? Even if the box itself cost �35, why 11 discs cost for about �9?

Again, very little music has been commercially available. Isolated scores as DVD bonus features do not count. The Radiophonic Workshop Discs contain a lot of FX and some selections of music for the first two Doctors, some various cues and one complete score for the third Doctor and then various FX for the fourth Doctor. Discs 3 & 4 contain the complete scores for "the Leisure Hive", "Meglos" and "Full Circle" so none of the complete scores (aside from The Caves Of Androzani, The Greatest Show In The Galaxy, Ghost Light and The Curse of Fenric) from "The Keeper of Traken" through to "Survival" have ever been commercially available. The TV Movie score CD was only ever released a promotional disc from John Debney and has never been available to a main commercial market. That leaves a LOT of material to still be COMMERCIALLY available. Just because we have the music on the forum here does not mean everyone has access to such things.

And there is already new music from Dudley Simpson released on the 4CD for the first time anywhere.

As for the price... that's about $14 per disc. That's pretty average for a physical compact disc in the US. So the price didn't really shock me much.

Seriously, the cost annoys me only because I am completely incapable of being able to afford it right now.

mantrashak
12-14-2013, 03:06 PM
Apparently there were 3 radio specials broadcast last month: "The Blagger's Guide to Doctor Who", "The Story of Trock" and "Who is the Doctor?" Would be eternally grateful if anyone has a copy of any of these they could share as I missed them all!

Penny Parker
12-14-2013, 03:19 PM
Not only City of Death, but Genesis of the Daleks, Pyramids of Mars, The Deadly Assassin and Talons of Weng-Chiang are also conspicuous by their absence on that Fourth Doctor disc packaging list. Maybe these stories have been left out now for use on a future Fourth Doctor CD?

Timethrow
12-14-2013, 04:46 PM
Apparently there were 3 radio specials broadcast last month: "The Blagger's Guide to Doctor Who", "The Story of Trock" and "Who is the Doctor?" Would be eternally grateful if anyone has a copy of any of these they could share as I missed them all!

+1 to that if anyone has any ??

DavidRaphael
12-14-2013, 05:29 PM
I don't know Story of Trock but there were several audio-book broadcasts including:

Fanfare for the Common Men
Farewell Great Macedon
Human Resources
Protect and Survive

plus documentaries:
The Blagger's Guide to Doctor Who
Witness - Making Doctor Who
BBC Wiltshire Presents Doctor Who
Who Is The Doctor?

Who Made Who? (a 3hr special comprising:
Mark Gatiss' On the Outside it Looked Like An Old Fashioned Police Box
The Reunion – Doctor Who
Dance of the Daleks
Whatever Happened to Susan Foreman?)

Other BBC broadcasts include:
My Life As a Dalek
The Terry Nation Story
Who on Earth is Tom Baker?
A bio of Barry Letts

The Doctor
12-14-2013, 10:21 PM
Not only City of Death, but Genesis of the Daleks, Pyramids of Mars, The Deadly Assassin and Talons of Weng-Chiang are also conspicuous by their absence on that Fourth Doctor disc packaging list. Maybe these stories have been left out now for use on a future Fourth Doctor CD?

Do any of those still exist? I know City of Death is lost to time, and I think Pyramids of Mars has only been released as a re-recording of the original score.

Really the only way I'm going to consider buying this set is if there is a significant amount of unreleased music from the 9th and 10th Doctors eras. They've been woefully short-changed due to the original releasing scheme of the albums. If the 10th Doctor's disc is just a best-off collection of already released material, then I'll probably give it a pass.

pelham1007
12-14-2013, 10:36 PM
+1 to that if anyone has any ??

I've got The Blagger's Guide to Doctor Who" and "Who is the Doctor?" plus one called 'Who made Who'

impossibleego
12-14-2013, 10:39 PM
Do any of those still exist? I know City of Death is lost to time, and I think Pyramids of Mars has only been released as a re-recording of the original score.

Really the only way I'm going to consider buying this set is if there is a significant amount of unreleased music from the 9th and 10th Doctors eras. They've been woefully short-changed due to the original releasing scheme of the albums. If the 10th Doctor's disc is just a best-off collection of already released material, then I'll probably give it a pass.

Most Dudley Simpson scores have been sadly lost forever. Hence the lack of Pyramids, Ark and City. :(

As for the 9th... again, there is very little COMMERCIALLY available (which is what the producers and packagers are looking at) that there will be plenty of unreleased material included. Everyone needs to factor in that just because bootlegs are here in this forum does not mean that everyone everywhere has access to said bootleg material.

The Doctor
12-14-2013, 11:18 PM
Everyone needs to factor in...

I've factored all that in. But what I'm saying is there needs to be a significant amount of unreleased material from the 9th AND 10th Doctor for me to consider dropping nearly $230 USD on this thing. A single disc of 9th Doctor music isn't enough to make me spend that kind of money. I can barely justify it for 2 discs.

The last time I purchased a premium collector's edition box set, I spent $80 and got a six disc set of entirely unreleased music signed personally by the composer. Dropping over $200 to obtain 2 discs... is a bitter pill to swallow.

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...just because bootlegs are here in this forum does not mean that everyone everywhere has access to said bootleg material.

Also, something else to consider: this set is not going to make the material any easier to get for the average consumer. It's a limited pressing. Unless they expand the number they're issuing or re-release it in less extravagant packaging, whatever unreleased 9th and 10th Doctor music we do get is going to remain a premium exclusive. With only 1,000 of these sets floating around out in the wild, those tracks are going to end up being bootleg material for the majority of people hunting for it anyway.

impossibleego
12-14-2013, 11:27 PM
A single disc of 9th Doctor music isn't enough to make me spend that kind of money.


Some of us want more of the material than just the Murray Gold era.

If I could afford that collection, I would gladly be waiting to purchase it. Its such an amazing treat that I honestly didn't think would ever happen. And "Doctor Who" is one thing that I have always spent money on regardless of what it costs. The DVD releases alone are ridiculously priced here in America and yet I continue to purchase them because it is and has been my favorite show since 1982. Is it fair that they know that because its Doctor Who they can get away with charging that much? No. Do they know people will pay it? Yes.

The BBC and its distributors have ALWAYS liked to fleece the fans when they know they can. lol

And that is exactly who the set is aimed at, the FANS. Not the casual observer or the public en masse, the die-hard fans.

The Doctor
12-15-2013, 01:51 AM
Some of us want more of the material than just the Murray Gold era.

And I'm among those people. But the "episode" listing we've seen for the first four discs of the 11 disc set through sources like Blogtor Who -- and the tracks provided on the 4 disc set -- doesn't strike me as anything to get excited about in terms of new content. A lot of that material is already available (and not just as bootleg releases), so unless there are some nice surprises in the episode listings for Doctors 5 through 7, me being able to justify purchasing the set lies almost solely on unreleased Gold era tracks.

Not even the 8th Doctor disc excites me, as I already own the promotional disc released by Debney back in '96 (and the tracks included on the 4 disc set pretty much confirms my suspicions that what will be in the 11 disc set is a simple re-issue rather than an expanded score. A lot of the music on Debney's original CD has been re-arranged or shortened, most notably the main theme tune.)


The BBC and its distributors have ALWAYS liked to fleece the fans when they know they can. lol

Thing is, Silva Screen doesn't usually get up to that. They're typically known for reasonably priced merchandise. Even way back in the 1990s, when all I could get my hands on was Silva America releases, these things were not so ridiculously marketed and priced.

The only reason this set is being sold for such an inflated price is because of the wooden TARDIS packaging and the artificially restricted stockpile, and there's no good reason for them to be handling it this way, particularly as they've spent years fielding requests for more unreleased music.

People expect small labels like La La Land Records to run these limited pressings -- it's basically part of the DNA of small-scale soundtrack production for a niche audience -- but I don't typically associate this practice with Silva Screen.

impossibleego
12-15-2013, 02:26 AM
And I'm among those people. But the "episode" listing we've seen for the first four discs of the 11 disc set through sources like Blogtor Who -- and the tracks provided on the 4 disc set -- doesn't strike me as anything to get excited about in terms of new content. A lot of that material is already available (and not just as bootleg releases), so unless there are some nice surprises in the episode listings for Doctors 5 through 7, me being able to justify purchasing the set lies almost solely on unreleased Gold era tracks.

Not even the 8th Doctor disc excites me, as I already own the promotional disc released by Debney back in '96 (and the tracks included on the 4 disc set pretty much confirms my suspicions that what will be in the 11 disc set is a simple re-issue rather than an expanded score.



Thing is, Silva Screen doesn't usually get up to that. They're typically known for reasonably priced merchandise. Even way back in the 1990s, when all I could get my hands on was Silva America releases, these things were not so ridiculously marketed and priced.

As far as "new" old music, there are several stories listed on the first four discs that we have very little from and if they do something similar to "Revenge Of The Cybermen" and give us more music than we already had those discs are going to be worth it. Expecting anything new from Doctors 5-7 would be silly seeing as how we all know about the Isolated scores. Unless they shock us all and provide music for episodes like "Black Orchid" or "Delta and the Bannermen."

The Debney score is not really something I'm thrilled about either.

As for Silva getting up to things, the BBC has a lot of say as to how much the material is to be sold for. Same with their deal with Warner Bros for the distribution of the DVDs. The prices are so much higher in America for the DVDs than they are in the UK or Australia (another reason I tend to order from Australia instead). So, again, most of the blame shifts back to the Beeb.

And someone on here pointed out recently that as most of the classic Who soundtrack discs are out of print some are actually looking forward to the 11 Disc set especially so they can OWN the tracks they couldn't purchase any longer.

I'm just trying to help keep some positive in this forum because a lot of times when this set in particular is mentioned the posts tend to lean towards the negative and complaining and that's really a shame.

I, for one, have enough stuff going on in my life that upsets me that when I log on to here I just want us all to be happy. ya know, like we were before the 11 CD set was even announced? ;) lol

The Doctor
12-15-2013, 02:42 AM
At the end of the day, all I care about is the music being as widely available as possible. Literally all Silva Screen would have to do to make me happy is get rid of the artificial stock limitation on the TARDIS set so that people can buy it at their own pace, or offer a more traditionally packaged version for those of us who don't have the day-to-day resources to get in a footrace with other fans to order it before the stockpile dries up during the week long availability window they're planning for it.

This is honestly one of the most perplexing album releases I've ever witnessed. It doesn't make me angry or fill me with a sense of entitlement, it just makes me genuinely unhappy, not only with the fact that I probably won't be able to secure a copy, but because a lot of other people won't be able to either.

I'm disappointed in whoever decided that this was the optimal way to handle such a big release on the show's 50th Anniversary. In my opinion, it's the only dark mark on an otherwise pretty lovely 50th anniversary year.

impossibleego
12-15-2013, 02:51 AM
I have to agree with you on the perplexing. It just doesn't make sense why it HAS to be Limited Edition. Why can't they issue it without the packaging to make it more marketable? lol

scoobydoo72
12-15-2013, 07:23 AM
I'm gonna interrupt the score critics with very incredible fan made video of Sherlock Holmes meeting the Eleventh: WHOLOCK - Sherlock meets The Doctor! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3bGYljQ5Uw)

If anyone remembers seeing a fake 50th anniversary trailer where the TARDIS was on fire, you will know this vid is amazrilliant!

Watch the Making Of... after. That was impressive!

gwylock1
12-15-2013, 08:45 AM
Day of the Doctor Bootleg OST Re-Upload (https://www.mediafire.com/?45b9m5ebadu7y65)

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Did someone mention electronic spangles (https://www.mediafire.com/?52j75sm2u2ypt10)?

Amanda
12-15-2013, 09:22 AM
The 11 disc is fine enough as a limited thing. But if they really wanted sales, and make fans happy, they'd do a release just for series 1, and 1 for series two. Sell them like regular cd's. IF the sales work out in their favor, maybe do a series of "unreleased" diss. ALL I care about at this point is unreleased Gold score, none of the rest holds any interest for me. As far as classic score, the tracks I want most have been officially released.

ESB
12-15-2013, 09:35 AM
From another point of view - this TARDIS-box even with it impossible for "mere mortals" fans price, still will be much cheaper, than Elfman-Burton box :D

impossibleego
12-15-2013, 12:14 PM
Day of the Doctor Bootleg OST Re-Upload (https://www.mediafire.com/?45b9m5ebadu7y65)

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Did someone mention electronic spangles (https://www.mediafire.com/?52j75sm2u2ypt10)?

EDIT: Now the link works. Mediafire really is being weird lately. lol

Plutopurto
12-15-2013, 12:29 PM
I can't get into any of the classic series music, it's what really takes me out of the episodes of that era. But hey, when you're working on that kind of budget, it's going to be what it's going to be.

hybryd01
12-15-2013, 12:41 PM
I can't get into any of the classic series music, it's what really takes me out of the episodes of that era. But hey, when you're working on that kind of budget, it's going to be what it's going to be.
Previously the music was more imaginative, experimental, mysterious and much more related to what happened on the screen.
But it's still shit, because the show had a low bugdet back then. Yeah, right... -_-

Plutopurto
12-15-2013, 12:59 PM
I'm sorry, I just hated it.

Call it experimental if you will, it was trying to be enigmatic to portray this alien, but seriously, if the beebs had granted them a higher budget the music probably would be very different...

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Don't worry, I'll soon be lambasted by the supporters of the classic series composers. The Zimmerites of the film world do the same thing whenever you interrupt their moment in the sun.

What Ron Grainer and Delia Derbyshire did was pioneer a new way, a new genre of music which was controversial at the time. The main theme will be ingrained in my mind forever.

It's where the incidental music comes in later on that I detest. That's literally taking incidental music too literal. It's like smashing the keyboard synthesizer TOO LITERALLY.

Call me out if you will, but it's just something that detracted my experience from the show.

goldsmithrulesmyworld
12-15-2013, 01:00 PM
I think the Classic music and the new music is Great myself :)

hybryd01
12-15-2013, 01:13 PM
I'm sorry, I just hated it.

Call it experimental if you will, it was trying to be enigmatic to portray this alien, but seriously, if the beebs had granted them a higher budget the music probably would be very different...
From the other hand - Gold's music, beside great melodies and good ideas here and there (THE GOD COMPLEX <3), is just good symphonic music.
I like it, but listening to it rarely lately.
Not mentioning banging my head against the wall, when I'm watch an episode and then an bombastic cue emerges, completely not coresponding to the action on screen.
Or it corresponds, but is too much bombastic. Or choral. They just can't choose a right cue to scene's mood sometimes...

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Hmm, I'm now listening to Anniversary Collection and I noticed that "Chromophore Bans" is credited to Hodgson, not Delia Derbyshire.
Can anyone tell me - this is a mistake in tags or an error on actual packagge?

Plutopurto
12-15-2013, 01:14 PM
Yes, that is rarely Gold's fault though, he is working to what the mixers and producers want - if it looks like action: throw something action-like in there regardless if it was composed for a scene.

I'm more of a film score fan than television scores. Gold can most of the time get it right, but if I had to go with which era had the better music, it would hands down be the new series - barring some of series six and seven. Some of that is off the rails and even unlistenable at times I have to say.

Regarding the God Complex, I have to say, I didn't like one cue from that episode - it's a shame, but with Gold you can have your hopes up or down on any given episode!

Which Doctor?
12-15-2013, 02:35 PM
Hmm, I'm now listening to Anniversary Collection and I noticed that "Chromophore Bans" is credited to Hodgson, not Delia Derbyshire.
Can anyone tell me - this is a mistake in tags or an error on actual packagge? The actual package credits Dudley Simpson for the 'music by' and that track was 'realised by' Delia Derbyshire. In looking at various sites (Amazon, etc) the 'tagging' of the tracks are all over the place when it comes to the artist who performed the track. For example, Amazon lists this particular track as performed by Dudley Simpson, wheras another site shows that it's Brian Hodgson. When I tagged my discs, I just imported them via EAC. Looks like I'll have to go through and tag the 'artist' correctly on various tracks now - thanks for pointing this out.

wayfarer
12-15-2013, 03:23 PM
I have to agree with you on the perplexing. It just doesn't make sense why it HAS to be Limited Edition. Why can't they issue it without the packaging to make it more marketable? lol

My simple take on this set, from a fan's perspective too, is that they don't know the demand, so have played it safe at 1000 units. I wouldn't be surprised if the set gets a re-release without the TARDIS packaging, in future. I can't really afford it, after the Lethal Weapon box set but hope my cc can handle it.

Amanda
12-15-2013, 03:57 PM
I don't hate the classic era scores, but they don't do a lot for me as stand alone listens. Fpre the 3rd and 4th Doctors, and on, the stories I like, I have via the iso scores. But the tracks from those stories I would most want ARE officially released in some form. The music for the new shows may seem bombastic, but remember also the pacing for the new ones is just wild. Wild, I say. No more 6 to 8 part stories with tons of air time to fill with ambient sound. The music must keep pace with the quicker style, and from the beginning the larger more bombastic pieces have been favored.

gwylock1
12-15-2013, 08:53 PM
I hope no one minds if I put my two cents in here... but i feel like the classic series music was more inventive and experimental, and therefore much more interesting. Admittedly, there are a few scores I don't enjoy as much, Keeper of Traken, Terminus, The King's Demons, The Mutants (for the most part, though that one has good bits).... But scores by Dudley Simpson, Peter howell, Paddy Kingsland, and even Roger Limb (later ones) are extremely enjoyable to my ears and mind, and often complement the on-screen action more or less perfectly. Malcolm Clarke is a bit on the fence with his work, often enjoyable, but incredibly bizarre, experimental, and sound-oriented, but always fascinating and unique.
Whereas Murray Gold's work seems fairly generic to me, with occasional good bits. Also, he as a tendency to produce music that is suspiciously similar to other music from games and films, though not quite close enough to result in copyright violation, apparently. Also, the heavy re-use of tracks (his choice or not) grates on my nerves in the extreme, and I have developed a tendency recently to strip segments of music off episodes and replace them purely to allow me to appreciate the story better.

hybryd01
12-15-2013, 09:13 PM
Actually "The King's Demons" is one of my favs by Howell. Yup, the combination of lute, drums and synthisers is quite amazing.

gwylock1
12-15-2013, 09:39 PM
Actually "The King's Demons" is one of my favs by Howell. Yup, the combination of lute, drums and synthisers is quite amazing.

Fair enough... :)

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I actually made a Tumblr post a long time ago about the music of classic Who... check it out if you're interested! (http://gwylock1.tumblr.com/post/59220759352/evaluating-doctor-who-composers)

impossibleego
12-15-2013, 10:04 PM
Actually "The King's Demons" is one of my favs by Howell. Yup, the combination of lute, drums and synthisers is quite amazing.

"The King's Demons" is actually pretty much Jonathan Gibbs, not Howell.

gwylock1
12-15-2013, 10:11 PM
City of Death (https://soundcloud.com/welltemperedschism/the-well-temepred-schism-city)
(Not by me, but I though I should share this)

impossibleego
12-15-2013, 10:19 PM
Another little suite of music from my upcoming Era collections...

Enjoy the suite for "Dalek":
https://soundcloud.com/heath-david-castor/murray-gold-doctor-who-suite-3

hybryd01
12-15-2013, 10:54 PM
I actually made a Tumblr post a long time ago about the music of classic Who... check it out if you're interested! (http://gwylock1.tumblr.com/post/59220759352/evaluating-doctor-who-composers)
Great article, Gwylock :) I repost it to my fb DW fan group.

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"The King's Demons" is actually pretty much Jonathan Gibbs, not Howell.
They are listed equally for every cue, so I don't know who has greater impact on the score.
For me it's fifty-fifty.

impossibleego
12-15-2013, 11:03 PM
They are listed equally for every cue, so I don't know who has greater impact on the score.
For me it's fifty-fifty.

That's because Howell ARRANGED it. (And yes I know DrMatt listed both composers as the artist on his Iso-Score sets.) The official composer, as credited on-screen and on "Doctor Who: The Music II" is Jonathan Gibbs.

It's like Saying Murray Gold composed the theme to Doctor Who or Russell T. Davies created it. (you wouldn't believe how many people I've run into that call RTD the creator of Who!!) lol

Tron Unit
12-16-2013, 01:12 AM
I hope no one minds if I put my two cents in here... but i feel like the classic series music was more inventive and experimental, and therefore much more interesting. Admittedly, there are a few scores I don't enjoy as much, Keeper of Traken, Terminus, The King's Demons, The Mutants (for the most part, though that one has good bits).... But scores by Dudley Simpson, Peter howell, Paddy Kingsland, and even Roger Limb (later ones) are extremely enjoyable to my ears and mind, and often complement the on-screen action more or less perfectly. Malcolm Clarke is a bit on the fence with his work, often enjoyable, but incredibly bizarre, experimental, and sound-oriented, but always fascinating and unique.
Whereas Murray Gold's work seems fairly generic to me, with occasional good bits. Also, he as a tendency to produce music that is suspiciously similar to other music from games and films, though not quite close enough to result in copyright violation, apparently. Also, the heavy re-use of tracks (his choice or not) grates on my nerves in the extreme, and I have developed a tendency recently to strip segments of music off episodes and replace them purely to allow me to appreciate the story better.


I agree. I am a big fan of BBC Radiophonic. They were experimental and inventive and were influential electronica pioneers DECADES before electronica became mainstream. The problem with Murray Gold is that when Doctor Who was reinvented for 2005 they decided to make everything cinematic on a grandiose level and as such his work is derivative of other cinematic orchestral composers like John Williams and such. That's not a knock against Murray Gold, I think he's an exceptional composer in his own right, and I do enjoy listening to his scores, it's just that it lacks the atmosphere and ambiance and textured layers of BBC Radiophonic arrangements or the orchestral compositions of Dudley Simpson. Gold is just too operatic.

gwylock1
12-16-2013, 01:14 AM
I agree. I am a big fan of BBC Radiophonic. They were experimental and inventive and were influential electronica pioneers DECADES before electronica became mainstream. The problem with Murray Gold is that when Doctor Who was reinvented for 2005 they decided to make everything cinematic on a grandiose level and as such his work is derivative of other cinematic orchestral composers like John Williams and such. That's not a knock against Murray Gold, I think he's an exceptional composer in his own right, and I do enjoy listening to his scores, it's just that it lacks the atmosphere and ambiance and textured layers of BBC Radiophonic arrangements or the orchestral compositions of Dudley Simpson. Gold is just too operatic.
And generic. And harmonically simplistic. And somewhat repetetive. But, yes, he does have quite a bit of talent, just rarely uses it.

Amanda
12-16-2013, 01:46 AM
Actually, I prefer the Logopolis/Castrovalva combination....

Plutopurto
12-16-2013, 01:54 AM
"Harmonically simplistic". You just cracked me up. No, really, I was reeling from that one.

Look, if you wanted ambiance and idle stretches of music to cover the long stories of the classic era, then I think you can find some atmosphere and ambiance the same way through listening to the cycles of a washing machine and your mobile phone going off inside and slowly dying. It's boggling to even think any of the classic series music comes close to the compositional qualities of contemporary composers like Gold.

I'm sorry to say, but the word repetitive is better suited to the 'compositions' of the classic era composers.

Amanda
12-16-2013, 01:58 AM
It's not Gold's compositions that are repetitive. It is the use of the same tracks over and over in different stories. I am not sure Gold has control of that or not. Wasn't there the directions in early Who to avoid "themes"per se, and stay fairly atmospheric? They certainly did that. Which is why I don't really listen to them. Later in the series things started changing though. I dunno. I have been a Who fan since 1980, and I can appreciate both types of scores, but Gold is still my go-to listen every morning.

Plutopurto
12-16-2013, 02:02 AM
I agree to the part where they track-in the same cues over again a few times. It's the way film and television mixing and editing works today which is a shame.

gwylock1
12-16-2013, 02:03 AM
"Harmonically simplistic". You just cracked me up. No, really, I was reeling from that one.

Look, if you wanted ambiance and idle stretches of music to cover the long stories of the classic era, then I think you can find some atmosphere and ambiance the same way through listening to the cycles of a washing machine and your mobile phone going off inside and slowly dying. It's boggling to even think any of the classic series music comes close to the compositional qualities of contemporary composers like Gold.

I'm sorry to say, but the word repetitive is better suited to the 'compositions' of the classic era composers.

If I were to make a completely honest response to this post reflecting how I feel about it, i would be banned from this site for profanity.

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It's not Gold's compositions that are repetitive. It is the use of the same tracks over and over in different stories. I am not sure Gold has control of that or not. Wasn't there the directions in early Who to avoid "themes"per se, and stay fairly atmospheric? They certainly did that. Which is why I don't really listen to them. Later in the series things started changing though. I dunno. I have been a Who fan since 1980, and I can appreciate both types of scores, but Gold is still my go-to listen every morning.

His work is definitely enjoyble for the most part, but simply not my favourite. In any way.

Amanda
12-16-2013, 02:08 AM
I agree to the part where they track-in the same cues over again a few times. It's the way film and television mixing and editing works today which is a shame.

A lot, but not all. Neely composes mostly original tracks for The Mentalist. McCreary slaved week after week on Galactica. Just depends on the show/budget. Who is only what? 12 or so episodes? More? Shows like The Mentalist run 22-26 episodes. While a lot has a very familiar sound, I do not think they track in too much for that at all.

Plutopurto
12-16-2013, 02:12 AM
If I were to make a completely honest response to this post reflecting how I feel about it, i would be banned from this site for profanity.

Fair enough. I don't want to cause a rift. I love Doctor Who. All of it!

impossibleego
12-16-2013, 02:12 AM
If I were to make a completely honest response to this post reflecting how I feel about it, i would be banned from this site for profanity.

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His work is definitely enjoyble for the most part, but simply not my favourite. In any way.

HA! I would suffer the same fate if I were to respond completely honestly and with the first round of responses that just ran through my mind.

And I must point out that while Gold is by far my favourite composer of the series, I still quite enjoy much of his work. Its just... too many things factoring together to make his work less stellar than it could or should be.

And yes, part of the problem is probably Ben Foster's arrangements so you see why I do NOT blame Gold solely. In fact, the entire production team should just let him do what he wants and stop with the repetition and over use of a single cue.

The repetitive nature of the Current series scores is one thing the producers should realize that even people who don't notice scores usually are complaining about. When a person doesn't notice a score in a film or a TV show normally but all they complain about for a show (Doctor Who) is the loudness and over-the-top, repetitive nature of the score, the production team has a serious problem and should re-evaluate how the sound is mixed and how often they use a cue (or some variation of it).

Amanda
12-16-2013, 02:13 AM
The less filling/tastes great debate should probably wind down now though since it seems to stir up a lot of..stuff-ish sort of things...

I will point out one last thing. Classic Who rotated composers on a regular basis. One did not carry the entire work load. Gold has. The entire run of the new series has been his alone. It is part and parcel of the feel of the new regime. I am not sure if that will change as long as the current creative team continue their tenure. They seem to have been very specific in what they want for the show. Keep in mind composers simply are doing a job. They are creative within the limits of what they are told to do. If a composer refuses to follow those rules set out for them, they quickly find they no longer work for a show. Ask Ron Jones about that.

impossibleego
12-16-2013, 02:31 AM
The less filling/tastes great debate should probably wind down now though since it seems to stir up a lot of..stuff-ish sort of things...


AGREED!! Can we get back to just loving the show and embracing all of our individual likes and dislikes and just accept that everyone is different? (Thank goodness)

The Doctor
12-16-2013, 02:45 AM
I love the music in the show from beginning to end, but some of it is more enjoyable as stand alone listening than others. Also, as I get older I notice that certain tones and frequences are beginning to hurt my ears (too many years of listening to loud music) so some music -- The Sea Devils, for instance -- has become extremely difficult to listen to through headphones. That's part of the reason I drift more toward the current series than classic series for isolated listening.

My favorite composers from the classic series are Paddy Kingsland, Dominic Glynn, Keff McCulloch (yes, you read that right) and Mark Ayres. I'd kill to get the score to Frontios on this 11 disc set. Paddy had the most recognizable sound on the show in my opinion. And while I know a lot of people hated how McCulloch brought a more synth-pop sound to the show, I always thought it worked well with Sylvester's first year on the show, just as well as Mark's music worked in the second year. Dominic didn't write a lot of music I enjoy in isolation, but I really love the score for The Mysterious Planet. I'll listen to that one on a loop. The opening moments coming in over the space station are so dark and brooding. Love it.

In terms of Gold, he does tend to do some nice and experimental-sounding things on the show, they just never end up on CD because Gold feels like only the symphonic stuff will sell. We're lucky when we get the odd "weird" track (like Hanging on the Tabalaphone, which is my favorite piece of "WTF?" music from the relaunched show).

gwylock1
12-16-2013, 02:50 AM
PEOPLE, COME ON ()

impossibleego
12-16-2013, 02:53 AM
I really like Keff McCulloch's scores as well. :)

gwylock1
12-16-2013, 02:57 AM
I love the music in the show from beginning to end, but some of it is more enjoyable as stand alone listening than others. Also, as I get older I notice that certain tones and frequences are beginning to hurt my ears (too many years of listening to loud music) so some music -- The Sea Devils, for instance -- has become extremely difficult to listen to through headphones. That's part of the reason I drift more toward the current series than classic series for isolated listening.

My favorite composers from the classic series are Paddy Kingsland, Dominic Glynn, Keff McCulloch (yes, you read that right) and Mark Ayres. I'd kill to get the score to Frontios on this 11 disc set. Paddy had the most recognizable sound on the show in my opinion. And while I know a lot of people hated how McCulloch brought a more synth-pop sound to the show, I always thought it worked well with Sylvester's first year on the show, just as well as Mark's music worked in the second year. Dominic didn't write a lot of music I enjoy in isolation, but I really love the score for The Mysterious Planet. I'll listen to that one on a loop. The opening moments coming in over the space station are so dark and brooding. Love it.

In terms of Gold, he does tend to do some nice and experimental-sounding things on the show, they just never end up on CD because Gold feels like only the symphonic stuff will sell. We're lucky when we get the odd "weird" track (like Hanging on the Tabalaphone, which is my favorite piece of "WTF?" music from the relaunched show).
I just think it's a shame we rarely get anything truly creepy or unsettling from him. All that is left to the sound effect dubbers for the most part.

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I really like Keff McCulloch's scores as well. :)

They certainly have their moments! I think it's mostly the cheap keyboard sounds that turn people away... I know for a fact that "Silver Nemesis" sounds fantastic when performed by a real orchestra!

MusicalBean
12-16-2013, 02:59 AM
I really like Keff McCulloch's scores as well. :)
Keff McCulloch's work should have been burned instead of Dudley Simpson's. No offence, but it just seemed like a pile of cheesy shite to me.

The Doctor
12-16-2013, 03:13 AM
I think Murray has produced some pretty good horror music, but it's more traditional horror music, the sort of stuff you would hear in modern horror films (tracks that come to mind: Drowning Dry, Smith's Choice, Midnight, Davros, By Water Borne) but he doesn't get to flex that muscle nearly enough, even less so after Steven Moffat took over and the whole sound of the show shifted slightly (you'll notice all the tracks I listed are from the RTD era of the show).

On the subject of Keff: I love the 25th Anniversary Album. Not every track is a winner, but there are a lot of good melodies (Gavrok's Search, Burton's Escape, The Sting, The White Flag, The Brain) and I even like the synth he used, for me that's part of the charm. Granted, I grew up listening to chip tunes, I'm a huge NES and SNES music enthusiast, so the limitation on Keff's equipment never bothered me.

On a slightly different subject, does anyone else remember the soundtrack for the Jonathan Blum fan film Time Rift? While I've always been familiar with it, I never got to see Time Rift. However, I've had bits of Neil Marsh's soundtrack in MIDI format for a very long time. I've never gotten around to buying the CD (http://otherleg.com/lemmingssite/pages/TimeRift/soundtrack.html), but I should. I've always loved the track UNIT Drive, it's very exciting and I think would have fit right into the McCoy era of the show perfectly.

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Keff McCulloch's work should have been burned instead of Dudley Simpson's.

I think not a single jot of Doctor Who's history ought to have been junked/destroyed. It still baffles me that it was ever an acceptable practice to take the hard work of so many people and destroy it.

impossibleego
12-16-2013, 03:18 AM
I think not a single jot of Doctor Who's history ought to have been junked/destroyed. It still baffles me that it was ever an acceptable practice to take the hard work of so many people and destroy it.

Yes. 10000% agree.

gwylock1
12-16-2013, 03:40 AM
I think Murray has produced some pretty good horror music, but it's more traditional horror music, the sort of stuff you would hear in modern horror films (tracks that come to mind: Drowning Dry, Smith's Choice, Midnight, Davros, By Water Borne) but he doesn't get to flex that muscle nearly enough, even less so after Steven Moffat took over and the whole sound of the show shifted slightly (you'll notice all the tracks I listed are from the RTD era of the show).

On the subject of Keff: I love the 25th Anniversary Album. Not every track is a winner, but there are a lot of good melodies (Gavrok's Search, Burton's Escape, The Sting, The White Flag, The Brain) and I even like the synth he used, for me that's part of the charm. Granted, I grew up listening to chip tunes, I'm a huge NES and SNES music enthusiast, so the limitation on Keff's equipment never bothered me.

On a slightly different subject, does anyone else remember the soundtrack for the Jonathan Blum fan film Time Rift? While I've always been familiar with it, I never got to see Time Rift. However, I've had bits of Neil Marsh's soundtrack in MIDI format for a very long time. I've never gotten around to buying the CD (http://otherleg.com/lemmingssite/pages/TimeRift/soundtrack.html), but I should. I've always loved the track UNIT Drive, it's very exciting and I think would have fit right into the McCoy era of the show perfectly.

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I think not a single jot of Doctor Who's history ought to have been junked/destroyed. It still baffles me that it was ever an acceptable practice to take the hard work of so many people and destroy it.

I have never even heard of this before! Could you upload the MIDI files? And does anyone already have this, as I'm immensely curious!

Dalekboy
12-16-2013, 04:18 AM
I think every composer has brought something different to the series. I'm less fond of a chunk of Murray Gold's work, especially his later stuff, but at the same time he's produced some music that I adore. I own all the Gold soundtracks because I know there will be cues on there that'll I'll listen to again and again.

I think what I like most about the earlier composers is the range. They were sometimes fiercely experimental, which naturally leads to mixed results. The musique concr�te of early Who was a deliberate attempt to make the show sound unlike anything else on TV, and it succeeded. I love Tristram Cary's work on The Dead Planet - I find it wonderfully creepy and atmospheric. At the same time, I can understand why some folks people wouldn't like it.

Dudley Simpson was a master who usually had to work with only a handful of people. Given he composed opera and the like, I'd have loved to have seen what he could have done with the BBC Wales orchestra. Simpson did subtle little touches that go unnoticed. The upright piano was very common in bars and cafes in France, so that was the sort of piano he used for the City of Death score. Three people and a cat noticed, but he did it all the same.

Cary Blyton did a great job of making clever and inspired choices that are just a little bit wrong. He used no electronic music in Death to the Daleks to musically represent the loss of power. His choice to use saxophones is odd, but still interesting. For Silurians he used an ancient musical instrument to echo the ancient Silurian heritage. Sadly it sounded very like a kazoo. But he put in thought and made brave choices nonetheless.

Malcolm Clarke's Sea Devils is frankly bizarre. Highly experimental, it's not the best thing to listen to as a straight soundtrack, but heard in context of the story itself, it's passable.

And while writing all this, I've been listening to Gold's Up The Shard and The Long Song, both of which I love to pieces.

I'd love to see the show go back to different directors choosing different composers for their episodes. It'd give Murray a break, and it'd give us a chance for some really interesting variety. We'd no doubt hate some of it, but imagine some of the surprises.

Some of you may know about it, but for those that don't I can highly recommend the Adventures in Space, Time, and Music podcast. Dr. Phil does a great job and while I don't understand all the technical elements he discusses, I have definitely developed a greater appreciation of my favourite show's music.

Doctor Who: Adventures in Time, Space and Music (http://adventuresintimespaceandmusic.phillipwserna.com/)

robncat12
12-16-2013, 04:30 AM
So random thought about the Day of the Doctor. I know suspension of belief is a requirement for any viewing of any television show or movie, but small plot point: 'It's like cup of soup', the Zygons break through the paintings of empty landscapes to invade (no one else around), but the three Doctor's all break through a large painting of a battle in progress, they even blast the painting open with a projectile Dalek and then climb through. You would think that there were other Daleks or Time Lords or Gallifrean's around that might wonder what these guys went and maybe follow through.

Everan Shepard
12-16-2013, 04:42 AM
Good point! But it's tough to really know aobut them though, or if they manage to configure something about the exit and the painting closes again. Maybe, with the device the Zygons used, they programmed the paintings to release time momentarily to allow the things to leave and then close it down again, freezing reality again. Maybe.

thebox147
12-16-2013, 04:43 AM
I think the painting was supposed to be just a painting but they used a device to add real people into it.

The Doctor
12-16-2013, 05:55 AM
I have never even heard of this before! Could you upload the MIDI files? And does anyone already have this, as I'm immensely curious!

I've just taken a look at my archive and the MIDI files seem to have gone AWOL, however I do have an MP3 of UNIT Drive. It's only 96kbps, but it's the best quality version I've ever had (I think Neil Marsh himself may have emailed it to me a number of years ago!) In about an hour, I'll upload the MP3 of UNIT Drive and post it in the thread.

I think in January I'll order the full soundtrack CD. I've been intending to do that for a very long time (something like 10 years), so I reckon it's about time I get to it. For a low-budget fan film soundtrack produced in the mid-1990s, it's really very good!

The Doctor
12-16-2013, 07:07 AM
Here you go: Time Rift - UNIT Drive (https://www.mediafire.com/?n5r292fflafrq2c)

Also, if you go here (http://www.audioboy.net/pages/buymusic.html), you can listen to clips from other tracks on the CD. The whole thing has a Keff McCulloch vibe, which I admit to liking up front.

I'm going to email Neil Marsh the first week of January and see if he's still selling the CD. If so, I'm definitely going to order it.

Dalekboy
12-16-2013, 07:35 AM
If you want to watch Time Rift, all the parts are up on Youtube.

Doctor Who - Time Rift 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_wlYKd5HI)

It's variable, as you'd expect from a fan production. But it does have the best justification I've seen for why the Master keeps going with all his schemes.

The Valeyard
12-16-2013, 06:19 PM
Here you go: Time Rift - UNIT Drive (https://www.mediafire.com/?n5r292fflafrq2c)

Also, if you go here (http://www.audioboy.net/pages/buymusic.html), you can listen to clips from other tracks on the CD. The whole thing has a Keff McCulloch vibe, which I admit to liking up front.

I'm going to email Neil Marsh the first week of January and see if he's still selling the CD. If so, I'm definitely going to order it.


I bought both the tape and the CD back in the early 2000s. I loved the soundtrack that much! I haven't heard it since forever. I should dig it up and give it a spin this week.

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Doctor Who Series One and Two by Murray Gold - MP3
2006 - Silva Screen Records



Doctor Who Series 4 - Murray Gold
Silva Screen Records 2008


Thank you for these! I've added them to my office library.

Chris666eden
12-17-2013, 01:26 AM
A list of scenes featuring new cues from Day Of The Doctor:

Cocktails on the moon scene
Tardis over london scene
elizabeths credentials scene
silence the universe scene
no more scene
This war will end speech scene
how do you work? scene
How many children on Gallifrey scene
You live scene
The Under gallery scene
a long time ago scene
I've seen conflict scene
were going to need a new horse scene
your basically just a rabbit arn't you scene
matchstick man scene
Anyone loose a fez? scene
This has all the makings of your lucky day scene
same sonic, different case scene
time lord art scene
you have a promise to keep scene (actually from the shakespeare code but still unreleased)
I will be right back scene
we could conquer their world in a day scene
are you sitting comfortably scene
this is not a decision you will ever be able to live with scene
we don't need to land scene
we only have to agree to live scene
what i did that day was wrong scene
that noise brings hope scene
be the doctor i could never be scene
I change my mind scene
we are going to freeze Gallifrey scene

As you can see, theres a healthy amount of new music from Day Of The Doctor that if included on a CD with the selection of new music from Time Of The Doctor, would make a great soundtrack.

hybryd01
12-17-2013, 01:04 PM
Does anyone have a tv-ripped suite from "The Ambassadors Of Death"?
There was none in the package posted here by Recons, but I hope it was maybe just omission, because it was (I hope so) posted on the first page of this thread.
Anyone? :)

recons
12-17-2013, 02:41 PM
Does anyone have a tv-ripped suite from "The Ambassadors Of Death"?
There was none in the package posted here by Recons, but I hope it was maybe just omission, because it was (I hope so) posted on the first page of this thread.
Anyone? :)

There was. I omitted most of the stories for which there was an album, official or FFS.

Here you go: You are really spoiling us (http://www.sendspace.com/file/22h4z7)

hybryd01
12-17-2013, 03:21 PM
There was. I omitted most of the stories for which there was an album, official or FFS.
You are saying that there is some kind official release of it? What's FFS?

Amanda
12-17-2013, 03:51 PM
FFS is where you are. The Final Fantasy Shrine? You know....

Everan Shepard
12-17-2013, 04:12 PM
A list of scenes featuring new cues from Day Of The Doctor:

Cocktails on the moon scene
Tardis over london scene
elizabeths credentials scene
silence the universe scene
no more scene
This war will end speech scene
how do you work? scene
How many children on Gallifrey scene
You live scene
The Under gallery scene
a long time ago scene
I've seen conflict scene
were going to need a new horse scene
your basically just a rabbit arn't you scene
matchstick man scene
Anyone loose a fez? scene
This has all the makings of your lucky day scene
same sonic, different case scene
time lord art scene
you have a promise to keep scene (actually from the shakespeare code but still unreleased)
I will be right back scene
we could conquer their world in a day scene
are you sitting comfortably scene
this is not a decision you will ever be able to live with scene
we don't need to land scene
we only have to agree to live scene
what i did that day was wrong scene
that noise brings hope scene
be the doctor i could never be scene
I change my mind scene
we are going to freeze Gallifrey scene

As you can see, theres a healthy amount of new music from Day Of The Doctor that if included on a CD with the selection of new music from Time Of The Doctor, would make a great soundtrack.

And, since most of the other music used is already available, we could create the miexes used and create a full soundtrack of the episode when all of the new tracks are released :D

hybryd01
12-17-2013, 05:24 PM
FFS is where you are. The Final Fantasy Shrine? You know....
Oh, I didn't noticed.

One more request: tv rip from "The Abominable Snowmen" - also omitted or just doesn't exist (because of the sole episode surviving)?

impossibleego
12-17-2013, 08:30 PM
Oh, I didn't noticed.

One more request: tv rip from "The Abominable Snowmen" - also omitted or just doesn't exist (because of the sole episode surviving)?

The only "music" in "The Abominable Snowmen" are the stock recordings of the monks chanting. And there's very little of that. I don't think it has a TVRip file. At least, I don't have one.

hybryd01
12-17-2013, 09:26 PM
The only "music" in "The Abominable Snowmen" are the stock recordings of the monks chanting. And there's very little of that. I don't think it has a TVRip file. At least, I don't have one.
This is indid what I'm looking for - even a sample of Monks of Sakya Set in mp3 :P

impossibleego
12-17-2013, 09:47 PM
This is indid what I'm looking for - even a sample of Monks of Sakya Set in mp3 :P

Sorry, but I can't help. I ahve a list of the Stock music I'm still searching for that I need to post here and see if anyone has ANY of it so that I can make a more balanced decision o what Hartnell and Troughton stories I can include on my era collections. lol

Perhaps someone has those stock tracks from Abominable Snowmen for you!

hybryd01
12-17-2013, 11:22 PM
I was also posting my list of missing stock pieces and there were many findings, but the rest is still missing...

Chris666eden
12-18-2013, 01:05 AM
I wish there was a way we could get the BBC to release the Doctor Who 50 years Theme Tune. It is just wrong that such a brilliant rendition of the theme is made but we can't hear a full version without matt smith's narration and voice clips/sound effects.
I want to get to the bottom of why the BBC are so tightly lipped on the release of the recent theme tunes.
Something doesn't feel right when Silva Screen say they can't licence them yet have done so with the previous themes in the past. what's changed. They need to sort that out pronto.

REALLY bugs me that there's no official release of any of these themes.

mantrashak
12-18-2013, 01:21 AM
I don't think the BBC have any say on the matter of the Dr Who theme. They don't hold the rights to the music - it's published by Erle Music/Warner Chappell.

gwylock1
12-18-2013, 01:40 AM
I don't think the BBC have any say on the matter of the Dr Who theme. They don't hold the rights to the music - it's published by Erle Music/Warner Chappell.

There's still no reason for them to suddenly change the rights permits, though!

luckypenny
12-18-2013, 02:54 AM
I've just completed a set of custom covers for The 50th Anniversary Collection in the style of the Complete NewWho bluray design, feel free to use them or even give me feedback :)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gizmopedia/11427929914/" title="50th Disc 1 de Gizmopedia, sur Flickr">
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gizmopedia/11428057353/" title="50th Disc 3 de Gizmopedia, sur Flickr">

gwylock1
12-18-2013, 03:01 AM
I've just completed a set of custom covers for The 50th Anniversary Collection in the style of the Complete NewWho bluray design, feel free to use them or even give me feedback :)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gizmopedia/11427929914/" title="50th Disc 1 de Gizmopedia, sur Flickr">
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gizmopedia/11428057353/" title="50th Disc 3 de Gizmopedia, sur Flickr">

LOVE THESE!

gwylock1
12-18-2013, 05:29 AM
I think someone mentioned music from 30 Years in the TARDIS? Been desperate to get my hands on that soundtrack for ages, any news?

recons
12-18-2013, 10:06 AM
This is indid what I'm looking for - even a sample of Monks of Sakya Set in mp3 :P

I don't have a TVrip from this story, nor any of the music. I've searched for the original record for more years than I care to remember.

Great covers, Luckypenny!

gnawingagony
12-18-2013, 10:46 AM
The Abominable Snowmen has very few usable pieces of Monk droning. So expect a few nice sound effects as well.

Download 038 The Abominable Snowmen.mp3 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/k8tgkd)

impossibleego
12-18-2013, 11:18 AM
I think someone mentioned music from 30 Years in the TARDIS? Been desperate to get my hands on that soundtrack for ages, any news?

Its on the US iTunes version... has anyone gotten it yet? (Is it out here yet? All these release dates are just confusing me lol)

recons
12-18-2013, 11:24 AM
The Abominable Snowmen has very few usable pieces of Monk droning. So expect a few nice sound effects as well.

Download 038 The Abominable Snowmen.mp3 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/k8tgkd)

Thanks for this!

hybryd01
12-18-2013, 11:37 AM
The Abominable Snowmen has very few usable pieces of Monk droning. So expect a few nice sound effects as well.

Download 038 The Abominable Snowmen.mp3 from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/k8tgkd)
This is absolutely brilliant, thank you :)

I have a thought - maybe we should contact with someone from BBC to get an information about Monks of Sankya Set chants, Nigerian Drums & Pibroch availability in their libraries?
Is this even possible to encourage them to release it somehow?

recons
12-18-2013, 12:22 PM
This is absolutely brilliant, thank you :)

I have a thought - maybe we should contact with someone from BBC to get an information about Monks of Sankya Set chants, Nigerian Drums & Pibroch availability in their libraries?
Is this even possible to encourage them to release it somehow?

I doubt it, but you never know. I wouldn't have said it was commercially viable to do so. However, the Sankya Set prayers do not vary as far as I am aware, so it might be more feasible to obtain a different album of the morning prayer -there are some out there and they're bound to sound similar. It might be perhaps at least as acceptable as Murray Gold re-recording his scores (and songs with different artists) and releasing them as the soundtracks to particular series.

For those who missed it the other night, I recorded the Marc Riley show featuring the BBC Radiophonic Workshop and edited out anything else. Any takers?

impossibleego
12-18-2013, 12:26 PM
Here's a suite I arranged and mixed together that just narrowly missed inclusion on the final tracklist for my upcoming "Doctor Who - The Peter Davison Era: Music From The Fifth Doctor's Adventures"... (For those keeping track that means that Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Paul McGann and Christopher Eccleston's sets are all completed now.)

Jonathan Gibbs - The King's Demons (Suite) (https://soundcloud.com/heath-david-castor/jonathan-gibbs-doctor-who)

Enjoy!

hybryd01
12-18-2013, 12:35 PM
Here's a suite I arranged and mixed together that just narrowly missed inclusion on the final tracklist for my upcoming "Doctor Who - The Peter Davison Era: Music From The Fifth Doctor's Adventures".
Still don't know why you can't put music from particular era on more than one cd.

impossibleego
12-18-2013, 12:42 PM
Still don't know why you can't put music from particular era on more than one cd.

Its a lot of work!

When I originally came up with the concept I CHOSE to do only one disc per Doctor. That's only fair. (The decision was partly because of the lack of music for Hartnell - Tom Baker lol)

I chose the format and the restrictions so that's how it is, ya know?

And these are not intended to be all encompassing... they're sort of like "sampler" albums. Its like "You like these? Well check out their full scores as well as more from this Doctor!", ya know?

And don't forget I'm thinking of doing a 2 CD set to encompass all Doctors and therefore get to use tracks I didn't include on their individual sets. ;)

bbvfan
12-18-2013, 01:17 PM
Its a lot of work!

When I originally came up with the concept I CHOSE to do only one disc per Doctor. That's only fair. (The decision was partly because of the lack of music for Hartnell - Tom Baker lol)

I chose the format and the restrictions so that's how it is, ya know?

And these are not intended to be all encompassing... they're sort of like "sampler" albums. Its like "You like these? Well check out their full scores as well as more from this Doctor!", ya know?

And don't forget I'm thinking of doing a 2 CD set to encompass all Doctors and therefore get to use tracks I didn't include on their individual sets. ;)

As far as i'm concerned, keep up the good work. Your compositions are all excellent!!

Pansentient
12-18-2013, 02:34 PM
Does anyone have the More Than 30 Years In the TARDIS cue from the American set? I can't buy it from Amazon as they apparently restrict MP3s by region :(

hybryd01
12-18-2013, 03:40 PM
Its a lot of work!
When I originally came up with the concept I CHOSE to do only one disc per Doctor. That's only fair. (The decision was partly because of the lack of music for Hartnell - Tom Baker lol)
I chose the format and the restrictions so that's how it is, ya know?
And these are not intended to be all encompassing... they're sort of like "sampler" albums. Its like "You like these? Well check out their full scores as well as more from this Doctor!", ya know?
And don't forget I'm thinking of doing a 2 CD set to encompass all Doctors and therefore get to use tracks I didn't include on their individual sets. ;)

Ok, please, don't be mad at me ^^'

Chris666eden
12-18-2013, 06:58 PM
Don't think anyone has posted this yet so here it is:

An Adventure In Space And Time Track list:

01 MAIN TITLE – AN ADVENTURE IN SPACE AND TIME (0:38)
02 THE RIGHT MAN (1:17)
03 THE FIRST WOMAN PRODUCER (1:21)
04 I’VE GOT AN IDEA.. (1:34)
05 THE DALEKS (2:52)
06 KILL DR. WHO (1:48)
07 WHAT DIMENSION? (1:24)
08 THIS IS MY SHOW (1:50)
09 AUTOGRAPH HUNTING (2:31)
10 SYDNEY NEWMAN (1:00)
11 SCARLETT O’HARA (1:03)
12 PISS & VINEGAR (1:24)
13 DRESSING ROOM (1:18)
14 JFK ASSASSINATED (1:48)
15 THE TARDIS (0:57)
16 GOODBYE SUSAN (2:37)
17 10 MILLION VIEWERS (0:57)
18 THE FANS (0:41)
19 I’M SO SORRY BILL (2:45)
20 KISS GOODBYE (1:05)
21 MY SUCCESSOR (1:06)
22 ISOP GALAXY (0:50)
23 IRREPLACEABLE (1:19)
24 THE NEW DOCTOR (3:55)
25 TIME’S UP.. (1:15)

Release date: Early 2014. More details to come shortly.

http://www.doctorwhomusic.com/an-adventure-in-space-and-time/

Which Doctor?
12-19-2013, 12:12 AM
The certain just released album....does anyone have the digi version? The track Back To The TARDIS from 30 Years In The TARDIS is not on the physical set... :(


I think someone mentioned music from 30 Years in the TARDIS? Been desperate to get my hands on that soundtrack for ages, any news?


Does anyone have the More Than 30 Years In the TARDIS cue from the American set? I can't buy it from Amazon as they apparently restrict MP3s by region :(

Here ya go:

(http://s914.photobucket.com/user/the4thisbest/media/12-18-20136-08-29PM_zpsec20edca.jpg.html)
Title: Back To The TARDIS (Version 2) [From 'More Than 30 Years In The TARDIS']
Artist: Mark Ayres
Year: 1994
This release: 2013 (US Digital Release of 'Doctor Who: The 50th Anniversary Collection')
Label: Silva
Format: mp3 VBR
Tracks: 1

Link:

Mirror Creator: Download links for BTTT.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1CL3BHZX/BTTT.rar_links)

MEGA: https://mega.co.nz/#!HxY0hQha!eUvaHwUn2j3nhGjOlsNMNWtbDsxLfOnu_8bZRc4 pYtQ

No password

impossibleego
12-19-2013, 05:31 AM
Ok, please, don't be mad at me ^^'

That could never happen!

impossibleego
12-19-2013, 11:03 AM
As far as i'm concerned, keep up the good work. Your compositions are all excellent!!


Thank you so much! I am very happy that anyone aside from myself is enjoying these. lol I originally planned these as something just for my iTunes and they've sort of evolved since then.

Pansentient
12-19-2013, 01:09 PM
Here ya go:

(http://s914.photobucket.com/user/the4thisbest/media/12-18-20136-08-29PM_zpsec20edca.jpg.html)
Title: Back To The TARDIS (Version 2) [From 'More Than 30 Years In The TARDIS']
Artist: Mark Ayres
Year: 1994
This release: 2013 (US Digital Release of 'Doctor Who: The 50th Anniversary Collection')
Label: Silva
Format: mp3 VBR
Tracks: 1

Link:

Download links for BTTT.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1CL3BHZX/BTTT.rar_links)

No password

Superb, thank you!!

recons
12-19-2013, 02:45 PM
From DWA today...

"Ian Levine Finds Episodes in Taiwan

Posted by Doctor Who Archive on December 19, 2013 in 2013

Episode hunter and Doctor Who superfan Ian Levine has been on the trail of missing episodes once more, in Taiwan of all places it emerged this morning.

The search produced results, unfortunately turning up only episodes that are known to exist – Two episodes of The Dominators, Two of The War Games and one episode of The Seeds of Death.

While this may seem a disappointment, heart can be taken that there are still episodes out there to be found and an interesting new avenue has been opened, the films being sent to American troops stationed in the country during the Vietnam War and held by the owner of a radio station.

There is no word on whether these prints are in better condition by those retained by the BBC nor their original origin.

I’m sure everyone will offer Mr Levine their thanks, not only for his efforts but his openness about the issue of missing episodes at a time when many seem a closed book. Thank you Ian and hopefully your fight to bring these episodes home isn’t over quite yet!"

Kitamora
12-19-2013, 08:32 PM
Thank you so much! I am very happy that anyone aside from myself is enjoying these. lol I originally planned these as something just for my iTunes and they've sort of evolved since then.

I'm very interested on what'll be on the Paul McGann disc. Any Big Finish stuff?

impossibleego
12-19-2013, 09:26 PM
I'm very interested on what'll be on the Paul McGann disc. Any Big Finish stuff?

Even though I personally don't count Big Finish as canon, I can confirm that Paul McGann's era collection contains more music than just "The TV Movie" and "The Night Of The Doctor". ;)

hybryd01
12-19-2013, 10:00 PM
Even though I personally don't count Big Finish as canon, I can confirm that Paul McGann's era collection contains more music than just "The TV Movie" and "The Night Of The Doctor". ;)
I'm more interested in those strange aliens on the cover - one is definitely an Asgard from Stargate! :P

impossibleego
12-19-2013, 10:14 PM
I'm more interested in those strange aliens on the cover - one is definitely an Asgard from Stargate! :P

Haha! I used images from fan created artwork for the BF stories that are included on the collection. As I don't watch Stargate, I would have no clue if that is an accurate assessment or not lol

Kitamora
12-19-2013, 10:43 PM
Even though I personally don't count Big Finish as canon, I can confirm that Paul McGann's era collection contains more music than just "The TV Movie" and "The Night Of The Doctor". ;)

Well, as a bit of a confession, I only count McGann's Big Finish audio's as canon so I wanted some of his Big Finish stuff to slip into the four disc 50th Anniversary set to help with the long shifts at work!

impossibleego
12-19-2013, 11:03 PM
Well, as a bit of a confession, I only count McGann's Big Finish audio's as canon so I wanted some of his Big Finish stuff to slip into the four disc 50th Anniversary set to help with the long shifts at work!

Is it weird that I break my own "its not canon!" rule with McGann's Shada? lol Oh I wish I had music from that one I could have used. But sadly, I do not.

recons
12-19-2013, 11:11 PM
I see DWA is claiming that The Underwater Menace will be released next year with the missing episode being animated. I guess that one hasn't been found, then.

MusicalBean
12-20-2013, 05:28 AM
Complete Episode Rips of "The Ice Warriors" and "Seeds of Death" please? :)

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 06:37 AM
I see DWA is claiming that The Underwater Menace will be released next year with the missing episode being animated. I guess that one hasn't been found, then.

SPOILERS!

Also? Never say never. ;)

EagleShooter6
12-20-2013, 09:15 AM
Is anyone getting the 11 disc TARDIS boxset.
If so are you going to put the music for it on here?

Amanda
12-20-2013, 09:37 AM
Is anyone getting the 11 disc TARDIS boxset.
If so are you going to put the music for it on here?

IF someone here gets it, I am relatively certain that they would post it, but perhaps not FLAC. We shall see. I think several here want it.

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 09:54 AM
IF someone here gets it, I am relatively certain that they would post it, but perhaps not FLAC. We shall see. I think several here want it.

And Amanda said pretty much word for word exactly what I was going to say. :)

mantrashak
12-20-2013, 02:48 PM
I see DWA is claiming that The Underwater Menace will be released next year with the missing episode being animated. I guess that one hasn't been found, then.

I've seen all the rumours. Much as it would be lovely if they turned out to be true, unless anything is confirmed by an official source I take them all with a pinch of salt. There has been no official news that any other episodes have been recovered.

saw76
12-20-2013, 03:12 PM
Some of you may be aware that the Radiophonic Workshop performed a session for Marc Riley on Monday and here is a great listen again option of just the session and interviews:

BBC Radio 6 Music - Marc Riley, BBC Radiophonic Workshop, BBC Radiophonic Workshop perform for Marc (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01nk7dx)

It would be even better if someone was able to rip it.

EJyPt
12-20-2013, 03:44 PM
With The Night of the Doctor, the BBC is now generally accepting all Big Finish audios concerning the 8th Doctor as canon.

Amanda
12-20-2013, 03:47 PM
With The Night of the Doctor, the BBC is now generally accepting all Big Finish audios concerning the 8th Doctor as canon.

Or so we assume. They made references, I understand. But that in no way means they are taking it is CANON. All it means is they needed dialogue for that scene. They needed The Doctor to be able to reference some sort of past history/companions, and instead of skimming over it, or making it up, they tipped their hat to the fans for a brief moment. That does not translate into all 8th things being canon.

timeandtimeagain
12-20-2013, 04:16 PM
Would Anyone Happen to have the soundtracks for:
The Edge of Destruction
Marco Polo and
The Keys of Marinus

If anyone does could you please post the links!
Thank You in advance.

thebox147
12-20-2013, 04:25 PM
Would Anyone Happen to have the soundtracks for:
The Edge of Destruction
Marco Polo and
The Keys of Marinus

If anyone does could you please post the links!
Thank You in advance.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/196.html#post2537573

Amanda
12-20-2013, 04:27 PM
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/196.html#post2537573

Yes but those are rips. He asked for soundtracks so I am not sure he wants rips.

thebox147
12-20-2013, 04:29 PM
Yes but those are rips. He asked for soundtracks so I am not sure he wants rips.

Ahhh, my bad. Hopefully these will do until someone finds the soundtracks.

Amanda
12-20-2013, 04:38 PM
I can't say. I dunno what he is looking for. Either way.

Hey. :)

recons
12-20-2013, 05:21 PM
Some of you may be aware that the Radiophonic Workshop performed a session for Marc Riley on Monday and here is a great listen again option of just the session and interviews:

BBC Radio 6 Music - Marc Riley, BBC Radiophonic Workshop, BBC Radiophonic Workshop perform for Marc (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01nk7dx)

It would be even better if someone was able to rip it.

I asked if anyone wanted this the other day. Hang about a bit and I'll upload for you.

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Here you go:

The Life (and Music of) Riley (http://www.sendspace.com/file/pp4rv1)

Kaejaris
12-20-2013, 05:58 PM
Would Anyone Happen to have the soundtracks for:
The Edge of Destruction
Marco Polo and
The Keys of Marinus


Here, this is the link to the Edge of Destruction soundtrack which I uploaded previously. It is complete save for one piece of music, I think.

The Edge of Destruction Soundtrack (http://www.mediafire.com/download/akmp73jr7ux709p/EdgeSoundtrack.zip)

If isolated music was what you were asking for then Marco Polo unfortunately does not exist in isolated form and I think the same can be said for the Keys of Marinus.

recons
12-20-2013, 06:19 PM
Here, this is the link to the Edge of Destruction soundtrack which I uploaded previously. It is complete save for one piece of music, I think.

The Edge of Destruction Soundtrack (http://www.mediafire.com/download/akmp73jr7ux709p/EdgeSoundtrack.zip)

If isolated music was what you were asking for then Marco Polo unfortunately does not exist in isolated form and I think the same can be said for the Keys of Marinus.

Neither Kay's score for Marinus nor Cary's for Marco Polo are known to exist. The latter uses some library music in Episodes 3 and 4 (namely, At The Palace Gates), and Episode 5 (namely, A Merry Old Gentleman's Song) from the BBC's own library LPs. These are not usually publically available, although I have seen the odd BBC Lib LP turn up on Ebay from time to time.

There are 5 pieces of library music in Edge of Destruction, three of which are not identified by name in the paperwork. However, as the respective albums (or compilations containing relevant tracks thereof) have appeared on this thread, it should be a relatively easy affair to ID them and have a complete soundtrack to this story. There was no incidental score composed for this story.

Tron Unit
12-20-2013, 07:07 PM
Even though I personally don't count Big Finish as canon, I can confirm that Paul McGann's era collection contains more music than just "The TV Movie" and "The Night Of The Doctor". ;)

Well like it or not, Big Finish is now canon thanks to "Night of the Doctor."

Amanda
12-20-2013, 07:22 PM
:D No it's not. Like it or not, NO ONE working on the show said they were considering anything canon. They just wanted to give the fans something nice. Little of the show says anything that happened in Big finish is now canaon. Hell, new Who doesn't even consider itself canon, let alone the classic series, let alone big Finish.

rsaintjohn
12-20-2013, 08:07 PM
"Canon is a word which has never been used in the production office, not once, not ever." - Russell T. Davies, 2005

"Because in Doctor Who there is no such thing as ‘canon’." - Paul Cornell, 2007

"It is impossible for a show about a dimension-hopping time traveller to have a canon." - Steven Moffat, 2008

Amanda
12-20-2013, 08:10 PM
***Exactly***

This way they can write themselves out of any corner they have previously written themselves into.

Fans often forget, WE do not write or own the show, nor decide "canon", the writers do and we get to either watch...or not.

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 08:45 PM
:D No it's not. Like it or not, NO ONE working on the show said they were considering anything canon. They just wanted to give the fans something nice. Little of the show says anything that happened in Big finish is now canaon. Hell, new Who doesn't even consider itself canon, let alone the classic series, let alone big Finish.


Amanda... to quote the War Doctor... I could kiss you!

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"Canon is a word which has never been used in the production office, not once, not ever." - Russell T. Davies, 2005

"Because in Doctor Who there is no such thing as ‘canon’." - Paul Cornell, 2007

"It is impossible for a show about a dimension-hopping time traveller to have a canon." - Steven Moffat, 2008


Unfortunately, those quotes were generally said to explain how they got around certain things. I simply say televised serials count... except "Dimensions in Time". :-P

Amanda
12-20-2013, 08:51 PM
Well, after 50 years, ideas came, they went. easy peasy. Except for the damn fans who catalogue **every** line of dialogue and plot point. And expect every episode from that point to adhere to what they think it means, and expect rational answers when it doesn't. Face it, a new production team starting tomorrow could come in and say, "time War? What's a Time war? no, no, we're not doing that, we have Lalla ward scheduled for a 2 part Romana reunion. How? Umm..well, chuck the Time War bit..". And, if they did, fans would scream, but that would be moot.

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 09:01 PM
Well, after 50 years, ideas came, they went. easy peasy. Except for the damn fans who catalogue **every** line of dialogue and plot point. And expect every episode from that point to adhere to what they think it means, and expect rational answers when it doesn't. Face it, a new production team starting tomorrow could come in and say, "time War? What's a Time war? no, no, we're not doing that, we have Lalla ward scheduled for a 2 part Romana reunion. How? Umm..well, chuck the Time War bit..". And, if they did, fans would scream, but that would be moot.

Well, given the events of "The Day Of The Doctor", Romana can come back anyways. ;)

Amanda
12-20-2013, 09:05 PM
Events I have yet to see. I had not been well and put off watching it. It was recorded on my cable dvr, but the hard drive fried and I had to get a different one. 3 weeks of recorded programming lost, including that. So I have NOT seen it...:(

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 09:12 PM
Events I have yet to see. I had not been well and put off watching it. It was recorded on my cable dvr, but the hard drive fried and I had to get a different one. 3 weeks of recorded programming lost, including that. So I have NOT seen it...:(

OH NO!

I'm so sorry. Take what I said with a pinch of salt. Lord knows, especially given the discussion we've been having about canon, if what I said could even be true!

Feel better.

rsaintjohn
12-20-2013, 09:14 PM
Unfortunately, those quotes were generally said to explain how they got around certain things.

But that's a question of continuity, not canon. Those statements were made to say, "There is no canon." Canon is the ruling from on high that some particular continuity is official, and others are not. It's common in Star Wars and Star Trek. In the history of Doctor Who, there has only been one such pronouncement from the production team/BBC about an effort outside the televised episodes (and the word "canon" was never used). There is continuity (with a lot of discontinuity) within Doctor Who, but there is no canon other than our own personal canon. Which is how you and I both can ignore "Dimensions in Time". :D

Amanda
12-20-2013, 09:16 PM
No worries. In the audio drama thread they have been discussing it without spoilers since a week after it aired. I said I had not seen it, and I was told (in my own thread) that a week was plenty of time and it was my own fault for not having seen it and if I wanted no spoilers I should have watched it. And then I was basically told to shove off. But, either way I know most of the plot points anyway.

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 09:34 PM
No worries. In the audio drama thread they have been discussing it without spoilers since a week after it aired. I said I had not seen it, and I was told (in my own thread) that a week was plenty of time and it was my own fault for not having seen it and if I wanted no spoilers I should have watched it. And then I was basically told to shove off. But, either way I know most of the plot points anyway.

THAT is just plain rude.

Ugh.

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But that's a question of continuity, not canon. Those statements were made to say, "There is no canon." Canon is the ruling from on high that some particular continuity is official, and others are not. It's common in Star Wars and Star Trek. In the history of Doctor Who, there has only been one such pronouncement from the production team/BBC about an effort outside the televised episodes (and the word "canon" was never used). There is continuity (with a lot of discontinuity) within Doctor Who, but there is no canon other than our own personal canon. Which is how you and I both can ignore "Dimensions in Time". :D

How can anyone COUNT "Dimensions In Time"?!

recons
12-20-2013, 10:39 PM
I simply say televised serials count... except "Dimensions in Time". :-P

So, does that mean that non-telelvised prequels, such as Night of the Doctor, don't count? :-)

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No worries. In the audio drama thread they have been discussing it without spoilers since a week after it aired. I said I had not seen it, and I was told (in my own thread) that a week was plenty of time and it was my own fault for not having seen it and if I wanted no spoilers I should have watched it. And then I was basically told to shove off. But, either way I know most of the plot points anyway.

Perhaps we no more own threads on the internet, even if we do start them, than we do 'canon'. Regardless of the answer, I'm with impossibleego: just plain rude. You have given and contributed heavily to this community (and not just in the DW threads); a polite request for spoilering plot details should have been respected, if for no other reason than that.

Do you need a copy of the special? I can sort one out for you if so.

impossibleego
12-20-2013, 10:44 PM
So, does that mean that non-telelvised prequels, such as Night of the Doctor, don't count? :-)

See once we get into the internet age I have to say if the BBC officially released it online then it counts.

See? Still don't have to count "Dimensions In Time". :-P

Amanda
12-20-2013, 10:51 PM
So, does that mean that non-telelvised prequels, such as Night of the Doctor, don't count? :-)

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Perhaps we no more own threads on the internet, even if we do start them, than we do 'canon'. Regardless of the answer, I'm with impossibleego: just plain rude. You have given and contributed heavily to this community (and not just in the DW threads); a polite request for spoilering plot details should have been respected, if for no other reason than that.

Do you need a copy of the special? I can sort one out for you if so.

Nah it's ok. was feeling very off when it happened and it rubbed me wrong. I am ok. I think now I have the new box that BBCAmerica has it on Demand. If not, they are re-running all of the past season, including the 50th leading into the X-Mas special and I have it all flagged. I should get it either way.

gwylock1
12-21-2013, 01:22 AM
:D No it's not. Like it or not, NO ONE working on the show said they were considering anything canon. They just wanted to give the fans something nice. Little of the show says anything that happened in Big finish is now canaon. Hell, new Who doesn't even consider itself canon, let alone the classic series, let alone big Finish.
I for one choose to interpret it as saying that Big Finish is canon, though you are free to disagree! I speak only for myself and what's in my head.

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Having read the subsequent discussion, I can only say that "canon" is purely something in our minds, our way of working things out, and whatever the production office do in regards to that, we'll be finding some way to rationalize the canonicity of it!

Amanda
12-21-2013, 01:52 AM
Yjere is such a gap for the 8th Doctor it's silly not to assume there are a ton of stories out there. Apparently he is one of the longest lived Doctors. I know the 11th has claim, but the 8th has obviously aged in appearance more. So of course fans will want SOME indication that stuff happened, and there were companions as Grace declined in the movie. So why not use established characters after all? As I said, a nice treat for die-hard fans.

Plutopurto
12-21-2013, 03:44 AM
I would love more of the Hurt Doctor. Stories from the Time War...

thebox147
12-21-2013, 08:12 AM
See once we get into the internet age I have to say if the BBC officially released it online then it counts.

Does that make Scream of the Shalka canon? :-P

recons
12-21-2013, 10:14 AM
Does that make Scream of the Shalka canon? :-P

Oh, don't! I used to be over at GallifreyBase a very long time ago. You should have seen the replies I got for suggesting that! It's one of the factors that made me dump them in the end.

I rather took to the idea that the eighth Doctor and the Ninth (the Shalka Doctor, that is) were actually the same incarnation but affected by experiences (which might have turned out to be something in the Time War - he 'saved' the Master from something, after all) and enjoyed the metatextual sense I got from having the two Withnail and I actors portraying this same Doctor. The Shalka Doctor, in my mind, could have been a sort of half regeneration where something hadn't gone quite right, and could have fitted back into the continuity of Who without too much trouble.

Nothing really prepared me for the responses I got!

Dharte
12-21-2013, 01:55 PM
Hello... I am looking for Doctor Who Series 7 OST... I looked in this thread but I dont find it.. any advice??

Which Doctor?
12-21-2013, 03:28 PM
Hello... I am looking for Doctor Who Series 7 OST... I looked in this thread but I dont find it.. any advice??

Thread 160413

Chris666eden
12-21-2013, 06:43 PM
Would anyone be interested in an expanded Soundtrack for Torchwood Miracle Day?

I've always seen it as Murray Gold's best musical taste of something different and of course most of it became inspiration for all his work on Series 7.
I've compiled the first 4 episodes already. each one has a different variation of the Theme Tune as well as a selection of tracks from each episode.

Should I Post it here when finished or open a new thread for it? I thought since its Murray Gold's work and Torchwood is a part of Doctor Who, it might have a place here, but opening a new thread is fine.

impossibleego
12-21-2013, 08:34 PM
Does that make Scream of the Shalka canon? :-P


Can I say "Parallel Universe Canon"? lol It does have the first BBC issued appearance of David Tennant technically. lol ;)

Carmine Seepage
12-21-2013, 08:45 PM
"Canon is a word which has never been used in the production office, not once, not ever." - Russell T. Davies, 2005

"Because in Doctor Who there is no such thing as �canon�." - Paul Cornell, 2007

"It is impossible for a show about a dimension-hopping time traveller to have a canon." - Steven Moffat, 2008

Rubbish! In that rather terrible Strax field report they say "Little is known of the 8th Doctor." What do you mean little is known? He has tons of adventures. Just not TV canon ones.

Their is TV canon which is the primary from which all else flows. Then there is audio, book and comic canon amongst others. Obviously they do decide canon in terms of TV really counts and nothing else really does.

recons
12-21-2013, 10:28 PM
Would anyone be interested in an expanded Soundtrack for Torchwood Miracle Day?

I've always seen it as Murray Gold's best musical taste of something different and of course most of it became inspiration for all his work on Series 7.
I've compiled the first 4 episodes already. each one has a different variation of the Theme Tune as well as a selection of tracks from each episode.

Should I Post it here when finished or open a new thread for it? I thought since its Murray Gold's work and Torchwood is a part of Doctor Who, it might have a place here, but opening a new thread is fine.

This sounds interesting. Do post it here. We have posted Torchwood stuff before.

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Rubbish! In that rather terrible Strax field report they say "Little is known of the 8th Doctor." What do you mean little is known? He has tons of adventures. Just not TV canon ones....

Or just not known to the Sontarans? I understand the McGann prequel's popularity took Moffat and co. by surprise, so there's every possibility we might see him again, and the 'little is known' remark might be just deliberate vagueness.

impossibleego
12-21-2013, 10:37 PM
This sounds interesting. Do post it here. We have posted Torchwood stuff before.

I would love more Torchwood music!

If we can post "The Sarah Jane Adventures" here we can surely post "Torchwood". Its all in the same Whoniverse. ;)

recons
12-21-2013, 10:40 PM
I've just seen the following posted on Roobarbs. Make of it what you will

I've just got back from MBW, and my recollection of Dick Fiddy's comments in the documentary, as I understood them, is:

- substantial amount of material found by Morris in Africa - but Dick expressed this in terms of "I understand that..." / "I believe that..."
- He talked of hundreds, maybe thousands, possibly tens of thousands of "titles"; as I understood it, this was not merely his reporting of the rumour, but of what he understands
- He confirmed Phil Morris has letters from the BBC, and the BFI as ITV's official archive, confirming that he is acting on behalf of the BBC and ITV
- He understands much, probably most, of the material is already back in the UK
- Whatever's coming back is going to the BBC in the first instance, who have an agreement to pass ITV material on to ITV
- The material is still being assessed and catalogued, which will take a while
- The whole thing is being kept under close wraps (very much my phrase, not Dick's - but a fair paraphrase, on my understanding of what he said), for good reasons
- The possibility of colour Steptoes and possibly one or other two specific titles was clearly speculation on Dick's part
- He also mentioned he had left the announcement of this year's screening late, in the hope that Phil Morris might give some material for it.



Caveats:

- other contributors on the documentary only recounted the rumour and spoke more guardedly
- other people present seem to have understood Dick Fiddy's comments differently



So there you go. That's my eyewitness report, offered for what it's worth. But I'm not a total chump, and the above was my clear understanding on the day - nothing more and nothing less than that. So please don't jump all over me pointing out I could have misunderstood completely - yes, I could, but I don't think I did. And I was struck by how far Dick was willing to go in confirming certain aspects of the rumours - that seemed very clear to me, and I'd have thought that as an experienced hand in these matters Dick won't have been speaking loosely.

The Doctor
12-22-2013, 04:10 AM
Or so we assume. They made references, I understand. But that in no way means they are taking it is CANON. All it means is they needed dialogue for that scene. They needed The Doctor to be able to reference some sort of past history/companions, and instead of skimming over it, or making it up, they tipped their hat to the fans for a brief moment. That does not translate into all 8th things being canon.

I'd say that, at the very least, it solidifies those characters as canon.

I've always felt that if it's on-screen and produced by the BBC, it's pretty much canonical, although I'm happy to incorporate things from just about every format if I can make it work logically in my head. I don't see the point in quibbling about the finer details, I sort of grew out of that when I spiraled into my 30s.

EagleShooter6
12-22-2013, 08:50 AM
I think they have Dudley Simpson's score for Robot on the 11 disc boxset. Because in the names of the music/special sounds, Dudley was first and Robot is the first Baker episode.

Other Simpson's that maybe in the boxset are
The Chase (Simpson's listed)
The Underwater Menace
The Ice Warriors
The Space Pirates
The Curse of Peladon
The Three Doctors
Carnival of Monsters (most certain because no special sound exists)
The Monster of Peladon
The Sontaran Experiment
The Invisible Enemy
The Sun Makers
Destiny of the Daleks
Nightmare of Eden

Info from Blogtor Who: EXCLUSIVE: Artwork & notes from 11 Disc Collector's Soundtrack set (http://blogtorwho.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/as-announced-last-month-silva-screen.html)

gnawingagony
12-22-2013, 09:33 AM
I think they have Dudley Simpson's score for Robot on the 11 disc boxset. Because in the names of the music/special sounds, Dudley was first and Robot is the first Baker episode.


Carnival of Monsters (most certain because no special sound exists)

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There are some music cues which survive for certain as they are on the revisited DVD. But what makes you think no special sound exists? Again, they are all over the DVDs.

EagleShooter6
12-22-2013, 10:38 AM
Mark Ayres says it in the 4CD Boxset in notes

Kaejaris
12-22-2013, 12:51 PM
Other Simpson's that maybe in the boxset are
The Chase (Simpson's listed)
The Underwater Menace
The Ice Warriors
The Space Pirates
The Curse of Peladon
The Three Doctors
Carnival of Monsters (most certain because no special sound exists)
The Monster of Peladon
The Sontaran Experiment
The Invisible Enemy
The Sun Makers
Destiny of the Daleks
Nightmare of Eden


There is already known to exist one piece of music from the Underwater Menace so it may only be that re-released again.

And there is also Planet of the Spiders. There was some of Dudley Simpson's music on the photo gallery for that too.

saw76
12-22-2013, 01:49 PM
I asked if anyone wanted this the other day. Hang about a bit and I'll upload for you.

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Here you go:

The Life (and Music of) Riley (http://www.sendspace.com/file/pp4rv1)

Must have missed your offer first time around, many thanks my friend.

gwylock1
12-22-2013, 05:32 PM
There is already known to exist one piece of music from the Underwater Menace so it may only be that re-released again.

And there is also Planet of the Spiders. There was some of Dudley Simpson's music on the photo gallery for that too.

Link? I've only got the VHS :P

Kaejaris
12-22-2013, 07:17 PM
Link? I've only got the VHS :P

Here's the photo gallery of Planet of the Spiders in .mp3 format featuring sound effects accompanied by Dudley Simpson's music. Apologies for the slight jump at the beginning of the audio.

Photo Gallery - Planet of the Spiders (http://www.mediafire.com/download/1f442ktmpn6v1if/SpidersPhotoGallery.zip)

gwylock1
12-22-2013, 07:29 PM
Here's the photo gallery of Planet of the Spiders in .mp3 format featuring sound effects accompanied by Dudley Simpson's music. Apologies for the slight jump at the beginning of the audio.

Photo Gallery - Planet of the Spiders (http://www.mediafire.com/download/1f442ktmpn6v1if/SpidersPhotoGallery.zip)

Thanks! :)

recons
12-22-2013, 09:50 PM
Off for a few days with the family now. Merry Christmas to you all!

R

gwylock1
12-22-2013, 10:01 PM
Off for a few days with the family now. Merry Christmas to you all!

R

Merry Christmas! Hope you have a god one! :)

hybryd01
12-22-2013, 10:07 PM
Merry Christmas everyone :)
A Very Dalek Christmas - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDXDkWd8eq0)

And a little christmas gift for you (but I'll be still grateful for better quality!) ;)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ppfxy2y5kw1s84k/Jamie%20Robertson%20-%20Doctor%20Who%20Theme%20%28Light%20at%20the%20En d%29.mp3

EagleShooter6
12-22-2013, 10:55 PM
Here's the photo gallery of Planet of the Spiders in .mp3 format featuring sound effects accompanied by Dudley Simpson's music. Apologies for the slight jump at the beginning of the audio.

Photo Gallery - Planet of the Spiders (http://www.mediafire.com/download/1f442ktmpn6v1if/SpidersPhotoGallery.zip)

Any other Dudley Simpson music on Photo Gallery apart from Carnival of Monsters and Planet of the Spiders?

arien7321
12-22-2013, 11:12 PM
Wow you are angel thank you!

Kaejaris
12-22-2013, 11:38 PM
Any other Dudley Simpson music on Photo Gallery apart from Carnival of Monsters and Planet of the Spiders?

Apart from the released music from the Mind of Evil and the Claws of Axos, yes. There's the Ice Warriors, the Invisible Enemy and the Sun Makers.

del37
12-23-2013, 12:18 AM
Merry Christmas! Hope you have a god one! :)

Is that the most appropriate typo ever?

EagleShooter6
12-23-2013, 01:29 AM
Apart from the released music from the Mind of Evil and the Claws of Axos, yes. There's the Ice Warriors, the Invisible Enemy and the Sun Makers.

Cool thanks!

Terror of the Autons photo gallery contains The Master's Theme
The Ambassadors of Death contains The UNIT Theme (Mark Ayres)

The Invasion's photo gallery is full of Don Harpers music

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 06:57 AM
Does anyone have the bootleg score for Paradise Towers? My copy is absolutely abysmal in quality and I am hoping there's a better one floating about so I can finally complete "The Sylvester McCoy Era".

rsaintjohn
12-23-2013, 07:35 AM
Does anyone have the bootleg score for Paradise Towers? My copy is absolutely abysmal in quality and I am hoping there's a better one floating about so I can finally complete "The Sylvester McCoy Era".

I have a 63 track version from ages ago, encoded at 128kbps. Is that the same as yours?

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 07:41 AM
I have a 63 track version from ages ago, encoded at 128kbps. Is that the same as yours?

Definitely not the same as mine. I think mine was encoded at 96kbps (!!!) and has only 20 long tracks lol

Any chance I could get you to post your version? ;)

rsaintjohn
12-23-2013, 08:23 AM
Towers El Paradiso! (http://www.mediafire.com/download/n10mmvwn9ta6xf6/DWPT.zip) Feliz Navidad!

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 08:28 AM
Towers El Paradiso! (http://www.mediafire.com/download/n10mmvwn9ta6xf6/DWPT.zip) Feliz Navidad!

Muchos Gracias!!!

Happy Christmas! :)

hybryd01
12-23-2013, 11:53 AM
Towers El Paradiso! (http://www.mediafire.com/download/n10mmvwn9ta6xf6/DWPT.zip) Feliz Navidad!
If there's also an ost from "Delta And The Bannermen" - I'll be thankful for uploading :)

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 12:16 PM
If there's also an ost from "Delta And The Bannermen" - I'll be thankful for uploading :)

As far as I'm aware there has never been even a bootleg score for "Delta and the Bannermen" sadly.

Pansentient
12-23-2013, 02:09 PM
As far as I'm aware there has never been even a bootleg score for "Delta and the Bannermen" sadly.
I believe there were some tracks on the photo gallery, so it may be possible to rip those.

rsaintjohn
12-23-2013, 04:38 PM
If there's also an ost from "Delta And The Bannermen" - I'll be thankful for uploading :)

I had 5 "bootlegs" from ye olden tymes, Delta wasn't one of them.

gwylock1
12-23-2013, 05:43 PM
Is that the most appropriate typo ever?

Oh damn xD

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Towers El Paradiso! (http://www.mediafire.com/download/n10mmvwn9ta6xf6/DWPT.zip) Feliz Navidad!

Christmas is early! Thanks very much for this! :)

hybryd01
12-23-2013, 07:25 PM
I had 5 "bootlegs" from ye olden tymes, Delta wasn't one of them.
What you have beside Towers? :)

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 08:58 PM
I believe there were some tracks on the photo gallery, so it may be possible to rip those.

There are some tracks not used on the 25th Anniversary Album on the Bannermen gallery. Only 1 or 2 of them is not badly faded in and out and can be separated. I used what was presented in its entirety for my suite on The Sylvester McCoy Era that will be out and available for download sometime next month. Other than that the "professionally" mixed suite of music on the Photo Gallery is absolutely horrifically edited and faded together.

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What you have beside Towers? :)

The bootlegs I had (I don't know which ones rsaintjohn had) were Castrovalva, Mawdryn Undead, Mysterious Planet, The Ultimate Foe, Time And The Rani, Paradise Towers, Dragonfire, The Happiness Patrol and Silver Nemesis.

I don't believe any other bootleg scores ever existed until the Murray Gold master tapes for Series 1 & 2 which Amanda has posted.

gwylock1
12-23-2013, 09:37 PM
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The bootlegs I had (I don't know which ones rsaintjohn had) were Castrovalva, Mawdryn Undead, Mysterious Planet, The Ultimate Foe, Time And The Rani, Paradise Towers, Dragonfire, The Happiness Patrol and Silver Nemesis.

I don't believe any other bootleg scores ever existed until the Murray Gold master tapes for Series 1 & 2 which Amanda has posted.
Any chance you could share the above?

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 09:42 PM
Any chance you could share the above?

Mysterious/Foe have been uploaded as "The Black Light" album, I believe.

As for Rani.. if someone has it in higher than 128 and copuld post it then that would be awesome. I believe mine is 128 though.

gwylock1
12-23-2013, 09:51 PM
Mysterious/Foe have been uploaded as "The Black Light" album, I believe.

As for Rani.. if someone has it in higher than 128 and copuld post it then that would be awesome. I believe mine is 128 though.
I'd think the mysterious planet and Ultimate Foe bootlegs might be a bit more complete, though... as for Time and the Rani... i have the 128 kbps version as well... :\

impossibleego
12-23-2013, 10:01 PM
I'd think the mysterious planet and Ultimate Foe bootlegs might be a bit more complete, though... as for Time and the Rani... i have the 128 kbps version as well... :\

The only bootleg ever out there for Trial WAS Black Light. :-/ Unfortunately.

EagleShooter6
12-23-2013, 11:59 PM
There is one track of Delta and the Bannermen on the 50th Anniversary Collection cd.
It's titled 'Here's to the Future'.

impossibleego
12-24-2013, 12:06 AM
There is one track of Delta and the Bannermen on the 50th Anniversary Collection cd.
It's titled 'Here's to the Future'.

Yup. And that track was previously released on the album "The 25th Anniversary Album" in 1988.

rsaintjohn
12-24-2013, 12:43 AM
What you have beside Towers? :)

I was wondering if someone would catch that. The others were Mawdryn Undead, Silver Nemesis and Dragonfire. The isolated scores and DrMatt have made them pointless and unlistenable. I'd forgotten about them completely until impossibleego had asked.

Oh, wait, that's only 4, isn't it? :D

Like some of you, I have Time and the Rani, but it's also only the 128kbps version. I'll upload it later. Been driving the wife around last minute Xmas shopping all day, and I'm beat.

I don't think I ever got Mysterious Planet and The Ultimate Foe. I had the Black Light cassette back when it came out, but not sure if I ever digitized it.

edit: nevermind, I see that MP/UF were the Black Light cassette.

EagleShooter6
12-24-2013, 02:08 AM
Yup. And that track was previously released on the album "The 25th Anniversary Album" in 1988.

Sorry didn't know that.

Most of the 80's stuff on the 4CD was previously released

gwylock1
12-24-2013, 04:31 AM
I'll just leave this here....
It's a collection of music by Edmund Butt, including a few tracks from "An Adventure in Space and Time"

EB Collection :) (https://www.mediafire.com/?rg6wh37ip3ebg4y)

impossibleego
12-24-2013, 07:24 AM
Sorry didn't know that.

Most of the 80's stuff on the 4CD was previously released

Unfortunately, that is correct. There were only a handful of tracks on the 4CD set that I even needed. I'm hoping that the 11 CD set won't be as disappointing. Although, I just had a look at the Fifth Doctor's list of episodes with tracks on the 11CD set and it balances out to each story getting under 4 minutes of material... :-/

Dalekboy
12-24-2013, 10:24 AM
No worries. In the audio drama thread they have been discussing it without spoilers since a week after it aired. I said I had not seen it, and I was told (in my own thread) that a week was plenty of time and it was my own fault for not having seen it and if I wanted no spoilers I should have watched it. And then I was basically told to shove off. But, either way I know most of the plot points anyway.

Some people are just arrogant and horrible. Those same folks would be the first to complain if the situation were reversed.

Amanda
12-24-2013, 10:27 AM
? Random??

impossibleego
12-24-2013, 10:32 AM
If it helps, Amanda, I think the comment was pro-you and anti-the other users' behaviour.

I think.

Dalekboy
12-24-2013, 10:40 AM
If it helps, Amanda, I think the comment was pro-you and anti-the other users' behaviour.

I think.

Definitely pro-Amanda! Amanda is made of 51% awesome.

Sorry, had a few tiring days and brain isn't working. Always hate the arrogant, "It's your own fault if you haven't seen it" argument. People have lives, things go wrong, folks get busy... It wouldn't kill people to show a little consideration for their fellow fans. I try to be careful of spoilers for most things because there's always someone for whom it is brand new.

Amanda
12-24-2013, 10:53 AM
I's ok, I'm over it, mostly. And come Wednsday I get to see the 50th and X-Mas special back to back on BBCA so it'll all work out. To be fair to them, I was in a bad place, Pain and the meds to deal were combining with other meds...So I was offended more easily, and responded more brashly than I ought have. I am leveled out and they certainly have moved on, so I figure it's a wash.

rsaintjohn
12-25-2013, 12:26 AM
The New Professor and Strange Matter (http://www.mediafire.com/download/88ikl2q4i7cj9cg/DW-TatR.zip), a collection of Melodies by Mr. K. McC.

128kbps, but I hope you enjoy anyway and a Merry Christmas to all of you at home!

gwylock1
12-25-2013, 05:09 PM
My little Christmas present to you all -
The opening music from "The Ice Warriors"
both the version as presented in the episode, and my own remastered and stereo expanded version!

Enjoy! :) (https://www.mediafire.com/?a9j679o9n5j5hqm)

rsaintjohn
12-26-2013, 04:36 PM
Awesome interview with Mark Ayres (http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-celebrating-fifty-years-of-doctor-who-with-archivist-mark-ayres) about the 50th Anniversary Collections

Chris666eden
12-26-2013, 10:30 PM
<a target="_blank" href="https://imageshack.com/i/m951t3j">

TRACK LIST:

A NEW WORLD:

01. The Execution Of Oswald Danes
02. Knock At The Door
03. They Call It Miracle Day
04. Living Corpses
05. Phone Call
06. Files Get Left Behind
07. 456
08. Ring Man
09. Plain Old Human
10. Take Me Home
11. Closing Credits (A New World)

RENDITION:

01. Low Sodium
02. Food And Suspicion
03. Poison
04. I'm Sorry
05. On The Run
06. Poisoned On The Plane
07. Rebuild
08. Welcome To Torchwood
09. Closing Credits (Rendtion)

DEAD OF NIGHT:

01. We Have Contact
02. The British Abroad
03. Calling The Shots
04. Got Them Worried
05. I Understand Now
06. Closing Credits (Dead Of Night)

ESCAPE TO L.A:

01. Previously
02. The Edge Of America
03. Dead Is Dead
04. We Need Access
05. Good Luck
06. Breaking In
07. Closing Credits (Escape To L.A)

THE CATEGORIES OF LIFE:

01. Life And Death
02. Clear To Move
03. Let's Do This
04. Heart Attack
05. The Module
06. They Burn People
07. Closing Credits (The Categories Of Life)

THE MIDDLE MEN:

01. Undercover
02. A Smoke
03. Reported
04. This Has To Stop
05. Blackmail
06. Closing Credits (The Middle Men)

IMMORTAL SINS:

01. Bring Us Jack
02. Where's Jack
03. Angelo
04. I'm Alive
05. The Devils Work
06. Escape To The Roof
07. You Kill Me
08. It's Been A Long Time
09. Gotcha
10. He's Waiting
11. This Would Be The End Of Us
12. Closing Credits (Immortal Sins)

END OF THE ROAD:

01. Arrival
02. Trouble
03. How Did You Do This
04. Promotion
05. Here's The Story
06. I Don't Know What To Do
07. Closing Credits (End Of The Road)

THE GATHERING:

01. In The Basement
02. It's Them
03. Miracle Creation
04. She Vanished
05. Harry Bosco
06. Ambush
07. We Got Him
08. Goodbye My Love
09. This Is The Blessing
10. Blood Trail
11. Closing Credits (The Gathering)

BLOOD LINE:

01. Today I Kill Him/Opening Titles
02. Keep Torchwood A Secret
03. The Vine
04. Perfect Chance
05. Run The Trace
06. Infiltration
07. Death Came Back
08. The End Of The Miracle
09. That's Impossible
10. Closing Credits (Alternate Mix)

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/h7dni38ejtfmdab/Torchwood%20Miracle%20Day%20Expanded%20Soundtrack. rar

wilko190897
12-26-2013, 10:53 PM
Hi guys,

Loving these expanded scores; Miracle Day, The Day of the Doctor and episodes 1-3 from Series 5 and I hope they continue :)
But I wondered if there is anyone working on an expanded score for The Time of the Doctor (like TDotD)
Thanks in advance for any progress
Keep up the great work
wilko190897

bishtyboshty
12-26-2013, 11:09 PM
Hi guys,

Loving these expanded scores; Miracle Day, The Day of the Doctor and episodes 1-3 from Series 5 and I hope they continue :)
But I wondered if there is anyone working on an expanded score for The Time of the Doctor (like TDotD)
Thanks in advance for any progress
Keep up the great work
wilko190897

It's only been a day since it was broadcast... and it's Christmas... Jesus.

EagleShooter6
12-26-2013, 11:46 PM
Blogtor Who: EXCLUSIVE: Artwork & notes from 11 Disc Collector's Soundtrack set (http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/exclusive-artwork-notes-from-11-disc_24.html)
The 11 Disc Boxset Details
There up to the 6th Dr.

Tanis
12-26-2013, 11:47 PM
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7969795840/h6345CC7D/

SillyTilly
12-27-2013, 12:29 AM
Thanks for posting that Miracle Day Soundtrack. I think its a massive shame they never released an official one

awkwardmeow
12-27-2013, 01:07 AM
Disappointing lack of new music in the final episode for Smith. It's strange how much the 50th and the Xmas special relied on reusing themes. Even during the regen scene! Here's hoping Capaldi gets some fresh stuff! Either way, Murray is THE MAN!

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 01:24 AM
Blogtor Who: EXCLUSIVE: Artwork & notes from 11 Disc Collector's Soundtrack set (http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/exclusive-artwork-notes-from-11-disc_24.html)
The 11 Disc Boxset Details
There up to the 6th Dr.

DID I SEE THAT RIGHT?! MINDWARP?! I THOUGHT THE ENITRE SCORE WAS LOST! :O

---------- Post added at 06:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 PM ----------


Hi guys,

Loving these expanded scores; Miracle Day, The Day of the Doctor and episodes 1-3 from Series 5 and I hope they continue :)
But I wondered if there is anyone working on an expanded score for The Time of the Doctor (like TDotD)
Thanks in advance for any progress
Keep up the great work
wilko190897
I'll be doing that as soon as i find a 5.1 broadcast copy of the episode!

Chris666eden
12-27-2013, 01:50 AM
My favorite track from Time Of The Doctor: Clara & The Crack In Time (http://www.mediafire.com/listen/3iq044hvxlj5pux/Clara%20%26%20The%20Crack%20In%20Time.mp3)

I love how murray gold has combined the theme for the crack in time with clara's melody to create a quite creepy mash up. Better be on the CD!

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 02:01 AM
My favorite track from Time Of The Doctor: Clara & The Crack In Time (http://www.mediafire.com/listen/3iq044hvxlj5pux/Clara%20%26%20The%20Crack%20In%20Time.mp3)

I love how murray gold has combined the theme for the crack in time with clara's melody to create a quite creepy mash up. Better be on the CD!

Oh so are you doing a release? If so, I'll stop my work right now, don't want to steal your thunder!

Chris666eden
12-27-2013, 02:09 AM
Oh so are you doing a release? If so, I'll stop my work right now, don't want to steal your thunder!

nah, i'm not doing one since most of the new music is really unclean, i've noticed these latest episodes have become more and more harder to extract as clean as possible. they now chuck soooo much sound effects over the music that its impossible. Specially the regeneration music when the town goes up in the regeneration blast.

Oh well. wait for the CD it is . . .

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 02:11 AM
nah, i'm not doing one since most of the new music is really unclean, i've noticed these latest episodes have become more and more harder to extract as clean as possible. they now chuck soooo much sound effects over the music that its impossible. Specially the regeneration music when the town goes up in the regeneration blast.

Oh well. wait for the CD it is . . .
Well, I've just started work on compiling as much of the music as is reasonably salvageable... will post tonight or tomorrow...

luckypenny
12-27-2013, 02:14 AM
Hi! I'm looking for the Opening theme of Series 4 in good quality! The one on the official release is from Voyage of the Damned, the actual Series 4 theme wasn't released (I guess)... I would be pleased if someone has it :)

tangotreats
12-27-2013, 02:27 AM
Looks like they combined the 50th anniversary and the Christmas special into the same orchestra session. Makes sense, I guess...

As for the score, mostly unremarkable... but that cue that plays when the TARDIS door opens to reveal the Papal Mainframe! Murray, where have you been?! Why can't you score the whole series like that?

The episode, I really liked... although I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with the Christmas Special handling so much plot-integral story. The specials have traditionally been self-contained stories and very little if anything to do with ongoing story arcs... but Moffat used this one to do things I think really should have gone in a standard episode - a series finale or series debut...

Capaldi's Doctor will be very interesting. I look forward to seeing Clara moping around because young sexy Doctor is gone... and grizzled, grey-hared wrinkly Doctor is there instead... ;)

EagleShooter6
12-27-2013, 04:17 AM
Gwylock1
It's probably sound effects by Dick Mills. He's listed on the boxset.
Also have a look at the other 5 doctors.

I think there's unreleased Dudley Simpson music for Doctors 1-4.

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 04:47 AM
Gwylock1
It's probably sound effects by Dick Mills. He's listed on the boxset.
Also have a look at the other 5 doctors.

I think there's unreleased Dudley Simpson music for Doctors 1-4.
As there was on the 4 CD set, yes! LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS

EagleShooter6
12-27-2013, 05:42 AM
As there was on the 4 CD set, yes! LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS

Yeah, are you getting it? If so will you upload the music onto this?

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 05:51 AM
Yeah, are you getting it? If so will you upload the music onto this?

Sadly, my [ahem] monetary assets will not cover the 11-CD set... That will have to be up to someone else, I'm afraid....

EagleShooter6
12-27-2013, 06:15 AM
Sadly, my [ahem] monetary assets will not cover the 11-CD set... That will have to be up to someone else, I'm afraid....

Is anyone else getting it?
and will you be uploading the music to the website?

impossibleego
12-27-2013, 08:59 AM
DID I SEE THAT RIGHT?! MINDWARP?! I THOUGHT THE ENITRE SCORE WAS LOST! :O

As Richard Hartley isn't credited... I'm assuming its just "special sounds" for "Mindwarp".

EagleShooter6
12-27-2013, 09:07 AM
Blogtor Who: EXCLUSIVE: Artwork & notes from 11 Disc Collector's Soundtrack set (http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/exclusive-artwork-notes-from-11-disc_24.html)
The 11 Disc Boxset Details
There up to the 6th Dr.

This is to everyone.
What music do you want to hear in the 11 Disc Boxset?

pottyaboutpotter1
12-27-2013, 04:26 PM
This is to everyone.
What music do you want to hear in the 11 Disc Boxset?

Hopefully some unreleased Gold stuff.

clef3
12-27-2013, 05:48 PM
I didn't hear much I am the Doctor in the special, which surprised me. I'm looking forward to the likely soundtrack release as the new music I heard seemed great - there were some good Clara's theme remixes.

I identified the following reused pieces: Four Knocks, Can I Come With You?, The Sad Man With a Box, The Majestic Tale, A Probe in the Snow, Clara?, The Leaf, Upgrade in Progress, Trenzalore, Remember Me, The Time of Angels, They Are Everywhere, Infinite Potential and I See You Silence. Was there anything else that I missed.

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 06:16 PM
This is to everyone.
What music do you want to hear in the 11 Disc Boxset?

Lots and lots of Dudley Simpson. I have little or no interest in any of Murray's work.

Amanda
12-27-2013, 07:36 PM
Lots and lots of Dudley Simpson. I have little or no interest in any of Murray's work.

Ok sure. But then discs 9, 19, & 11 are going to be useless for you...

I thought I heard a umber of variations of all the strange strange creatures in the special, more than I am the Doctor....

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 08:20 PM
Ok sure. But then discs 9, 19, & 11 are going to be useless for you...


True. Though I DO admit that I'm slightly curious about disc 9... Actually liked a lot of Muzz's Series 1 work!

Pansentient
12-27-2013, 09:26 PM
I didn't hear much I am the Doctor in the special, which surprised me. I'm looking forward to the likely soundtrack release as the new music I heard seemed great - there were some good Clara's theme remixes.

I identified the following reused pieces: Four Knocks, Can I Come With You?, The Sad Man With a Box, The Majestic Tale, A Probe in the Snow, Clara?, The Leaf, Upgrade in Progress, Trenzalore, Remember Me, The Time of Angels, They Are Everywhere, Infinite Potential and I See You Silence. Was there anything else that I missed.

I can't remember the title of it, but the music that ended part one of The End of Time was in there. It was on the specials soundtrack and is a variation of All The Strange Strange Creatures....

When was I See You Silence used? I love that track, surprised I missed it!

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 10:01 PM
I re-scored "Night of the Doctor" with music from the TV movie... Check it out! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nki3FQVfjPU)

Kadron
12-27-2013, 11:07 PM
'The Final Days' is what the All the Strange Creatures variation was called

gwylock1
12-27-2013, 11:10 PM
Also... clean Series 7B Opening and Closing Titles! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPpUgBaGezc)

EagleShooter6
12-27-2013, 11:39 PM
I didn't hear much I am the Doctor in the special, which surprised me. I'm looking forward to the likely soundtrack release as the new music I heard seemed great - there were some good Clara's theme remixes.

I identified the following reused pieces: Four Knocks, Can I Come With You?, The Sad Man With a Box, The Majestic Tale, A Probe in the Snow, Clara?, The Leaf, Upgrade in Progress, Trenzalore, Remember Me, The Time of Angels, They Are Everywhere, Infinite Potential and I See You Silence. Was there anything else that I missed.

When he takes his bow tie off, the music is called My Silence (halfway through the song)
Series 6 OST

shaqueela
12-28-2013, 07:53 AM
Can someone re-up the FLAC of the Ghost Light soundtrack?

The Kingpin
12-28-2013, 10:50 PM
@Pansentient, your unknown track is "Final Days", and I see you Silence had various excerpts during Clara's encounters with the Silence.

Which Doctor?
12-28-2013, 11:12 PM
Can someone re-up the FLAC of the Ghost Light soundtrack?

Looks like these links still work from post 4329 of this thread:

Download a file (http://vmkkvd.1fichier.com/en/)

1989DWGL.rar - Solidfiles (http://www.solidfiles.com/d/0fb2aa2d6c/)

pw - professor

zeejaydee
12-29-2013, 12:37 AM
Would anyone be able to reup the BBC Radiophonic Workshop Volume 1-4?

rsaintjohn
12-29-2013, 01:14 AM
See post 4824, scroll down to compilations

zeejaydee
12-29-2013, 01:22 AM
oh that's fantastic. I missed this. thanks so much for the heads up!

EagleShooter6
12-29-2013, 08:00 AM
Does anyone have the soundtrack for
The Space Museum?
The Time Meddler?

(Not the TV Rip)

hybryd01
12-29-2013, 01:26 PM
I re-scored "Night of the Doctor" with music from the TV movie... Check it out! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nki3FQVfjPU)
It's not available in my country -_-

---------- Post added at 02:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:21 PM ----------


Does anyone have the soundtrack for
The Space Museum?
The Time Meddler?

(Not the TV Rip)
The Space Museum was posted here some time ago. Here: http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/181.html#post2514398 (The link is working properly.)
The Time Meddler is a white crow amongs DW music searchers as there is probably only one track available, as to the rest - library albums containing them were not found to this day, sadly :/

gwylock1
12-29-2013, 07:43 PM
It's not available in my country -_-[COLOR="Silver"]


Sorry... the BBC have blocked it in several countries... posting a vimeo link as I type

Skeletonsinmycloset
12-29-2013, 07:54 PM
great thread good stuff here ty

gwylock1
12-29-2013, 08:46 PM
Sorry... the BBC have blocked it in several countries... posting a vimeo link as I type

https://vimeo.com/82899503

Kris72
12-29-2013, 11:00 PM
Hi does anyone know a working link for for the soundtrack:

Black Light - The Doctor Who Music of Dominic Glynn

as the link on here is broken.

hybryd01
12-30-2013, 12:00 AM
Hi does anyone know a working link for for the soundtrack:

Black Light - The Doctor Who Music of Dominic Glynn

as the link on here is broken.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/193.html#post2532699

Chris4ord
12-30-2013, 12:03 AM
I had a go at making this from the various music cues from series 7 to create "Goodbye Raggedy Man"

https://mega.co.nz/#!atQV0JiJ!aRoLJDMlGOebgQiOOvmzomonzX8ixJ70pYOQfEi 0fVA

Tracks are Trenzalore, Infinite Potential & My Husband's Home (but have mixed them as one track and shortened the music cue from My Husband home to fit) if any can get me a really clean Capaldi Entrance piece I will add this to it :)

hybryd01
12-30-2013, 12:17 AM
https://vimeo.com/82899503
Absolute genius. Great work done here. You should be a music director at modern DW production office ;)

Kostas Antonopoulos
12-30-2013, 01:22 AM
Hi there! Does anyone have the Itune bonus tracks from series 5 soundtrack?

gwylock1
12-30-2013, 01:28 AM
Absolute genius. Great work done here. You should be a music director at modern DW production office ;)

Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! :D

gwylock1
12-30-2013, 05:32 AM
Sorry for the recent spamming of this thread, last thing for a while, I promise!
The New Cycle (Doctor Who Theme Remix) (https://soundcloud.com/gwylock1-1/the-new-cycle-doctor-who)

recons
12-31-2013, 08:49 AM
2013 has been a brilliant year for this thread.

Thank you to the many, many who have contributed. We've had some great albums produced from DVDrips etc (especially from our very own DrMatt), some wonderful rare DW music found and shared, and some excellent new music also.

I would also like to raise a glass to absent friends, wherever they may have gone and for whatever reason. Among these are Exar Xan (the originator of this thread), Dalekdude (who started the ball rolling with nuWho releases), and Foe (who kindly shared many things, including his insights into missing episode finds). If you or any other of our absent friends are still out there, do come back!

I wish everyone on here a happy, peaceful, and healthy 2014.

Recons

bbvfan
12-31-2013, 09:53 AM
2013 has been a brilliant year for this thread.

Thank you to the many, many who have contributed. We've had some great albums produced from DVDrips etc (especially from our very own DrMatt), some wonderful rare DW music found and shared, and some excellent new music also.

I would also like to raise a glass to absent friends, wherever they may have gone and for whatever reason. Among these are Exar Xan (the originator of this thread), Dalekdude (who started the ball rolling with nuWho releases), and Foe (who kindly shared many things, including his insights into missing episode finds). If you or any other of our absent friends are still out there, do come back!

I wish everyone on here a happy, peaceful, and healthy 2014.

Recons

Hear, hear!!

bbvfan
12-31-2013, 02:49 PM
My next major project: Remastering all the original 'never released anywhere in any format!' BBV Audio Visuals music soundtracks from the master tapes :)

By-the by, did you ever get working on this project DrMatt? I know there were 4 original music tapes but I've never seen hide-nor-hair of them. I did hear a rumour Jim Mortimore was going to do some re-mastering too (there were some tracks on the CD that came with the Justyce Served book) but his page on bandcamp remains bereft of them....

Regardless, Happy New Year and thanks for all the amazing soundtracks you have gifted us with this year.