Having only made it through part of the thread so far ("Sheer size...it's MASSIVE!" - Nyssa), I was stunned to find on the first page that there wasn't anything for Four to Doomsday or Time-Flight. The DrMatt compilations I downloaded through BitTorrent included tracks for both (Four to Doomsday came with Castrovalva, Time-Flight came with Arc of Infinity).

I've never uploaded to one of those sites before, so I'm not familiar with the process. But, I would assume some die hard original series fans like myself on here would love to have a more complete collection.

Any help on how to provide these tracks would be appreciated.

Sending you a PM on how to upload. :)

Thank you for your help on that.

As promised, here are the uploads...(it's my first time, so if something is wrong, please be gentle with me lol)

Music From Four to Doomday
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MP56SIHD)

Music From Time-Flight
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HM8CZ68R)

Giving back to the community, with pride.

"Hawkeye"

Thank you Hawkeye!

We do have DrMatt around here somewhere, so I am hoping he reads this so he can let us know if he has plans to further expand Four to Doomsday and Time-Flight, if possible :)

Well, these were from Dr Matt compilations...they were tracks that were simple added inserts for Castrovalva (Doomsday) and Arc of Infinity (T-F). Maybe he felt there was nothing left to expand upon?

Quite possible, since they lack an isolated score on the dvd. BUt you never know with our busy bee who gave us lots of great releases already :)

Four To Doomsday and Black Orchid have a little more to offer, and there are plans, but they'll have to wait until later this year when things ease up for me.

Does anyone know any tips or tricks for removing reverb on a (mainly voice) recording?

R

I haven't gotten the hang of using this search engine (or it sucks). With apologies if already posted.

Jon Pertwee released this song in the 70's when he played the Doctor
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LOVE IT! My lazy is wishing for a nice audio link... http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx353/burn_eggroll/Smileys/pray_smiley.gif

That IS one CD I do not see on here, that "Who is Doctor Who?" one with all the oddball tracks on it. I've got it, if someone would like me to upload it. It's got the "I'm Gonna Spend My Christmas With a Dalek" track and a few other interesting ones. Frazier Hines also sings one if I recall correctly.

Look down farther on the list at the beginning of this thread its there :)


Who is Dr Who
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FSD89KH9

Ah, good. :-)

Watched the mid season finale " A Good Man Goes to War." Yes, they reveal the identity of River Song (my guess on her identity was right) and yes it is one of the best episodes to date. The only bad part, waiting for Doctor Who's return. That episode is entitled "Let's Kill Hitler" and anyone want to wager we will see the return of Winston Churchill?

Mildly entertaining and that is all. I am sick to death of this "everybody is scared of the Doctor" nonsense. No plot, no point. Just a lot of running round and blustering and shooting people that seemed to serve no purpose at all except to make us wait for the big River Song reveal at the end... which was a terrific anti-climax. Massive, massive disappointment. Oh, well... All good things come to an end...

I watched it online and I thought it was quite good myself , and I guessed Rivers ID :P I finally got one right!!
I will agree with Tango on this point being a long Doctor Who fan I think its time to loose the drama , lets get back now to shows like Doctors Wife and Curse of the Black Spot :)
No more whos is this person , whos baby is who , whos that little girl , why did the Doctor seem to die , etc. but as I quite often say to the wife , we are old school , got to write to the young pups , we are out of the loop now , oh well I still love the show.
Carry on Doctor :)

So, with the first half of the season over, what is everyone looking forward to on the OST? Personally, I'm hoping for the pre-credits of Day of the Moon (nice bassy guitar and IatD performance in the middle).

I like a bit of drama... but lately Who drama is feeling like "must write drama" and less like actual drama. A Christmas Carol got it right... this just got it so so wrong.

Point taken though... I've spent so much time trying to figure out what the hell is going on this last seven episodes, I've actually forgotten to watch the episodes. I can't concentrate on the stories because I'm constantly getting stuffed up thinking "Is this little detail a clue to something I need to remember for later on, or what?".

Case in point - Mr Saxon, and Bad Wolf. Insiginficant little mentions that are fun to speculate about, but otherwise don't get in the way of the entire series. They just drop you a little line here and there but otherwise you just get on with it and enjoy the show.

But this? Too much, Moffat, too much.

I think River's ID has been all but certain for some time... certainly since the beginning of this series, but I think right back to The Eleventh Hour.

In other personal preference-related gripes... Amy has been utterly annoying this series, Rory is acting completely out of character 99% of the time, and The Doctor is doing very little except rambling, looking angry, and yelling a lot. I still think Matt Smith is great but I simply believe he's not getting the lines he needs to truly shine. MY favourite Smith moment is in The Pandorica Opens, when he talks to Amy as she sleeps. The Doctor is young, old, vibrant, world-weary, exhuberant, tired, happy, and sad. Never has that been conveyed so well before. But lately? Nah, "I'm angry. That's new!" - yes, we get the message, he's a new Doctor, he's not David Tennant, WE KNOW! Can we develop his character a bit now instead of just constantly banging away at how different he is from the tenth Doctor?

:/

ReddiShadow: I pray to God that it'll be on the album, but I fear it won't be... The Tardis Theme. (The wistful, romantic cue heard as the Doctor and his "wife" are building their makeshift Tardis.)

This season of Doctor Who is a lot more like LOST than previous seasons.

I'm okay with that. I love Doctor Who, and I really like LOST (I'm up to season 5), so yeah. :) Really looking forward to the second half of the season.


Nah, "I'm angry. That's new!" - yes, we get the message, he's a new Doctor, he's not David Tennant, WE KNOW! Can we develop his character a bit now instead of just constantly banging away at how different he is from the tenth Doctor?

I don't think that's what that line was about. I think it's a reference to the fact that the Doctor constantly goes on about being a non-violent pacifist. That's never been the case, but he'd certainly like to believe it. I think it's getting hard and harder, the older he gets, to maintain that facade of calm.

Anyone know about when the soundtrack will be released, and whether we'll get one for the first half of the season and one for the second half?

I will kindly point out the we here in the USA are now officially a week behind the UK in broadcasts of Who, because of our recent holiday. Therefor, I, among others, may not have seen the finale.

No, I do not dl them and watch. I watch them the proper way, curled up on the couch, with popcorn, in the dark. :D

Thanks for that, Babydoll. Thought I had biffed on the Doctor's schedule for a moment and missed something.

Ok, Tango. I get your point, but I am liking the new season, and this Doctor a lot. But, I do not let the big overall arc bother me. I am not putting a ton of thought into what is up with Amy, or River or any of that. I avoid the official web sites, and chats about it. I just let myself watch each one without any spoilers, and just let myself go on the ride. I am sure all will be clear, or kinda clear by the end. It always is. I do miss more of the stand alone episodes, so missing one will not be an issue. But I also think there have been wondrous moments. A sort of new twist on Doctor meeting Doctor, for instance. It was a hoot to watch, at least for me. But i don't stress every detail. I just....go on the ride. :D

I haven't gotten the hang of using this search engine (or it sucks). With apologies if already posted.

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As I stated I enjoy the new shows even with all the , what I call drama, I had to rethink that after tangos comment and I think I mean more "Lost" (the tv show) drama instead of the usuall Doctor Who drama.
Not picking on anyone or really even DWHO just a side opinion comming from a long Doctor Who fan.
Its a good show , Ive been enjoying it :)

We all love our Tango and I appreciate his comments.

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Anyone know about when the soundtrack will be released, and whether we'll get one for the first half of the season and one for the second half?

I sent Mr Gold a Tweet (cant believe I said that word) , see if I get a response :)

I've been watching the show most of my life, and there hasn't really been a "version" I haven't liked. I enjoyed the "base under siege" era, I really dug the Earth Exile/UNIT era, and of course there was Tom's Gothic horror era, which was always really fun. For all it's faults, I even like the TV Movie.

I've enjoyed pretty much everything the show has done since the 2005 relaunch. RTD's loud, colorful approach to space-time travel was enormous fun, but I'm really enjoying Moffat's more muted, arc-driven approach as well. I'll look forward to seeing what the next head writer has planned, too.

Moonie: We all love our Tango and I appreciate his comments.


Of course. :D Everyone is gonna have a different opinion. I just meant I am enjoying this season. The Flesh two parter was really cool. And, I enjoy having no clue what's next. I certainly meant no offense to Tango.

Yes we do all have our differing opinons , makes life interesting anyway hehe, I do love the show as I said but sometimes it gets tiresome with all the whats and whos and whatevers.
I do like the River character and I do hope she pops on from time to time to "help" the Doctor.
and like I said I figured out who she is , if you think about it , its not hard to figure out.

Who would have thought that River Song was really a bald chicken in a bio-atomic super-suit?

Sorry to anyone who hasn't yet watched the episode.

I took no offense at all... I'm enjoying the series overall, but I think it has more pronounced "issues" than previous series'. After all, crappy Who is still better than most other shows. ;)

I am still waiting patiently for the four hour Donna-Rose-Amy-Martha-Jabe-River-Tardis-Ursula (pre-concrete)-Madame de Pompadour-Sally Sparrow-Vampires super orgy episode, scored by Yoshihisa Hirano with the London Symphony Orchestra... Until that happens I shall remain forever disappointed.

Pare that down to Amy-Rose-Charley Pollard (from the audios)-Peri (still hot today, look her up)-Sally Sparrow-Jackie and I'm game! I could care less who scored it. :)

(Would need time travel regarding the actresses but ideally I would've included Polly, Victoria, Zoe, Sarah, Leela, both Romanas, and Nyssa...)

I remember when RTD announced that there would be a 'surprise return' for series 4 and loads of people thought Sally Sparrow was coming back. Turned out to be shouty Donna. Oh well...

I liked Donna, just the person to put the Doc in his place. I think he likes that, as Amy does the same to him. And, he liked Tegan an awful lot too...

I remember when RTD announced that there would be a 'surprise return' for series 4 and loads of people thought Sally Sparrow was coming back. Turned out to be shouty Donna. Oh well...

I though the surprise return was Billie Piper.

I didn't see her Intro in "partners in Crime" coming in anyway and thought it was well done.

Out of the modern companions Donna for me was the best, Rory comes second, then Amy. I never liked Rose that much and Martha was alright-ish.

Out of the modern companions Donna for me was the best, Rory comes second, then Amy. I never liked Rose that much and Martha was alright-ish.

of the newer companions Rose is at the bottom of my list too, loved Donna , I liked Martha, Amy is good and poor Rory is stuck between The Doctor and a hard place :)

Possible Spoiler below here if you have not seen the mid season ender:















I think next season he needs to dump Amy and Rory and travel with little girl Melody aka River Song and she calls him my sweetee Doctor which drives him nuts.

Yeah, and thats that stuck between The Doctor and a hard place that makes him great. Besides he is as a Companion should be: a link with the viewer, the voice of reason and the person who needs explanation about and from the Mad man with the Blue Box. Ever since Ian and Barbara...who to me are so far the best of the Classics (watching The Ice Warriors currently, Jamie and Victoria are posibly number 2 Companions of the Classics for me).

Yeah, and thats that stuck between The Doctor and a hard place that makes him great. Besides he is as a Companion should be: a link with the viewer, the voice of reason and the person who needs explanation about and from the Mad man with the Blue Box. Ever since Ian and Barbara...who to me are so far the best of the Classics (watching The Ice Warriors currently, Jamie and Victoria are posibly number 2 Companions of the Classics for me).

my wife could always hear me say poor Rory all the time , I loved it when he was still a auton saying the plastic knows and points to his head.

Most of the Sendspace links don't work any more. Any chance of re-uploads?

Well BBC America tonite for a double of the Good Doctor, even tho I know what happens I like to watch them again , its been taking me several times watching these to get most of it.
as many times as Ive watched Time of the Angels Ive picked up something different.

So... anyone want to re-upload the Sendspace soundtracks? :D

All of them? Or anything in particular?

The Sendspace and Rapidshare links are all gone. And Sharebee is "undergoing emergency maintainance". I tried grabbing some stuff last night, and couldn't....
For me, I'd like:
The Visitation ISO
Resurrection of the Daleks ISO
te visitation ISO
Greatest Show in the Galaxy ISO
Ghostlight ISO

None of the Sendspace or Sharebee links work. RS is sporadic.

Matt Smith's officially signed on for another series. That's me happy then.

YAY!!!! Saw when a Good Man Goes to War. Loved it Loved it loved it. :D

YAY!!!! Saw when a Good Man Goes to War. Loved it Loved it loved it. :D

Yes very good first half of season 6 and yes best episode yet for the Doctor River Pond Melody Song , hehe, great!! and I figured it out , yes I like saying that :)

I loved it when the Doctor got all giddy when he saw who River really was or read :)

Its kinda funny I was complaining about how the Doctor was too much drama and I realized how much I was talking about it with the wife , whatever... come on , Lets Kill Hitler!!

Maybe von Stauffenberg will turn out to be a cyberman ?.

I'm watching the final SG:U tonight, V finished last week, Caprica is a few episodes away from execution (but has too much religious mumbo-jumbo anyway), Terminator is now long-gone, as is TV Trek, and Babylon 5 .... so does this leave the Doctor as the world's only ongoing sci-fi ?.

No. Sci-Fi still ha Haven. Warehouse 13, Sanctuary, and Eureka as ongoing series, all of which are back this season. Oh, and Being Human (american), and the original on BBCAmerica.And a new batch on the networks this fall, including that Speilberg dino show...err...Terra Nova.

I'd sorta deliberately omitted Eureka and Warehouse as they're comedies (I like both). And Haven as being more horror ?.

Terra Nova may be good... as is our Primeval (UK), but at 5 or 6 episodes a year its hardly started then its over...

Maybe its age or getting older , dont watch much TV anymore and the new shows dont grab me much. Might watch Terra Nova.
I usually watch the non network stations , American Pickers, some of the cake shows my wife watches, Doctor Who of course, and Nickalodian.

Nickelodeon?! SPONGEBOB WOO! Well, until season 4/5, anyway.

All of them? Or anything in particular?

The Dominators/Mind Robber/Invasion/Krotons/Seeds/Pirates/War Games file is quite appealing, if you're happy to do it. Also The Seeds Of Doom, and Ghost Light. That last one's a Rapidshare - apart from that, all the Sendspace and Sharebee files seem to be down.

I have a question about the christmas carol ost.

Does anyone know if it is going to be released on the USA Itunes at all or is it a european region release only?

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"A Good Man Goes To War" was awesome (The Doctor ending the war in 3 minutes and 42 seconds, him also knowing how to speak baby). it is funny how there is such as a thing as a Sontaran Nurse.

Warehouse 13, Sanctuary, and Eureka as ongoing series, all of which are back this season.

Oh. Be still, my beating heart. </sarcasm>

Oh, and moontrekker, it's not that you're getting old. I'm 20 and even I can see there's barely anything worth watching these days. :P

Hooray! I'm not the youngest old fart here, for once! I'm 27 and I pine for times before I was even born.

"My Mummy told me never to give my age on the internet."

I hope no-one in a white van comes and gets me - 18 and going strong!

Hi folks - I'm back - for a few weeks at least. Thought I'd drop by the 'DW S6 Review' - sorry 'DW Soundtracks' thread lol!

Dare I say I'm more looking forward to TW4 than I am DW S6 Pt2 (DrMatt ducks). I was a huge fan of the RTD era, enjoyed it tremendously. But the Moffatt years aren't quite doing it for me. This current series has become far too adult for my liking, with plot-lines and ideas way over the heads of most 6-7 year-olds. I enjoy it as a piece of odd-ball sci-fi, but it doesn't feel like DW to me. I'm not unhappy that the show is being 'rested' in 2012. But I still love the music!

As for my soundtrack efforts, at long last I have finished 'Kinda'... Apologies for the delays on that one. I wasn't happy with the draft version at all, and ended up remixing it from scratch, throwing in several excerpts and including a sound effects section. I tried out a new 'stereoization' method on this - see what you think.

Doctor Who - Kinda (Soundtrack by Peter Howell) + CD Art
MP3 Mixed/Stereo (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZMPRIUY0)
MP3 Unmixed/Mono (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4M30CRBO)
FLAC Mixed/Stereo (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5BNF5EGL)
FLAC Unmixed/Mono (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9ZUB66XK)

Snakedance, The Awakening, Frontios are on the drawing board.

@Babydoll - I've uploaded a FLAC rips of: Resurrection of the Daleks (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8WOO90V7) & The Visitation (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9R0K38IK)

O.O What do you mean.."rested" ?? I do not like the sound of that at all...

That there will be no episodes in 2012 of Doctor Who

I think that Series 7 episodes will probably be spaced in 2012 and maybe in 2013.

But let us wait to hear for any big or small announcements for Series 7 from Moffat, Also Matt Smith is signed up for Series 7.

So i am think we will hear something about Series 7 around the airing of episode 13 of Series 6

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If they are not going to show all 13 episode for Series 7, they would need to space each episode that they will show in a way where people would not be bored or upset for awhile or a long time.

Not *quite* true. Just that there won't be a *full* 13-episode series in 2012. Some are being held over til 2013, apparently.

I hate how they're treating my favorite show.

I think it's so they can hold some over for the 50th anniversary in 2013. I'm hoping they do a multi-Doctor episode/episodes. We've still got all the Doctors from Tom Baker onwards (though some of them are getting on a bit), so that could be interesting.

I think the working of the announcements have been took too literally... just because the 14 episodes have been confirmed, it doesn't mean plans haven't changed since then. The original plan could have easily been 14 2012 episodes, where as now the series will take a 'Specials' route in 2012, and add the remaining 9-10 Series 7 episodes to an extended 50th Anniversary run in 2013...

Dare I say I'm more looking forward to TW4 than I am DW S6 Pt2 (DrMatt ducks). I was a huge fan of the RTD era, enjoyed it tremendously. But the Moffatt years aren't quite doing it for me. This current series has become far too adult for my liking, with plot-lines and ideas way over the heads of most 6-7 year-olds. I enjoy it as a piece of odd-ball sci-fi, but it doesn't feel like DW to me. I'm not unhappy that the show is being 'rested' in 2012. But I still love the music!


I gave upon TW during Series 2, never got to series 3 & not even interested in Series 2.

As for DW s6, I too think that is got to many adult story lines, some of the stories dragg and opening with as two-parter that was so heavy with plot, must had been a real headache for kids.

RTD years were good with some mistakes, but to me DW is now like any Franchise, you need to know it's histury to enjoy some of the later stories. To me DW should have a mix of stand alone stories that work and can be watched without having to know that there is a back story running through them. This is what i liked about a lot of the early who stories from the 60's & 70's, you can come and go as you wish.

I gave upon TW during Series 2, never got to series 3 & not even interested in Series 2.

As for DW s6, I too think that is got to many adult story lines, some of the stories dragg and opening with as two-parter that was so heavy with plot, must had been a real headache for kids.

RTD years were good with some mistakes, but to me DW is now like any Franchise, you need to know it's histury to enjoy some of the later stories. To me DW should have a mix of stand alone stories that work and can be watched without having to know that there is a back story running through them. This is what i liked about a lot of the early who stories from the 60's & 70's, you can come and go as you wish.

Admittedly, I didn't think much of Torchwood Series 1 & 2 either, but when RTD took the helms properly for 'Children of Earth', it changed so much for the better - and we had 5 episodes of superb chilling television. I highly recommend it - and urge you to reconsider your dismissal of the series. Anyone I've shown 'Children of Earth' to has been blown away, and I hope 'Miracle Day' delivers even better.

As for the Moffatt era - especially this year, the filming in the US and the major 'too complicated for kids' story arc reminds me of US shows - that scene at the end of 'Day of the Moon' was straight out of 'Heroes'. I don't dislike US sci-fi shows, but what makes DW DW is it's Britishness - especially to the American audience. I hope this 'Americanization' doesn't push US viewers away. Would be ironic, when it was done to draw them closer. I get the feeling TW 'Miracle Day' will feel more British than DW, even though it's filmed in the US. We shall see. I am a bit miffed that UK audiences won't be getting TW on the same same as US - seems a bit unfair with all the effort to get DW on US screens the same day (barring the conclusion to dramatic two-parters and mid-season finales of course!).

Soundtracks now...

I started work on 'Snakedance' last night - tough one this... A quarter of it is random snatches of two janissary band tracks (one many of you will know from 'Doctor Who - The Music') that I hope will patch together to form longer tracks; another quarter is ambient sound effects (mainly Tegan hypnotised by iPod). As for the other half... 25 minutes of the most striking, imaginative and varied radiophonic music I've heard. I'd never noticed before, the music must hide so discretely under the action of the story - either that or it wasn't featured - I've not checked yet (sometimes music is included on the iso-scores that never made it to screen.) Some tracks really shine out - and the final track wouldn't be out of place in an 'Omen' film! So, as the final album will be 1-10(!) weeks away, here's a Draft Version (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LU1FAO4V) like I did for 'Kinda'. It's mono with no DW opening/closing theme or excerpts - just the music. See what you think.

@Babydoll - there's is second unmixed CD for 'The Visitation' which I'll upload soon - I need to update the CD art.

downloading the draft now. i barely remember any music from this serial aside from the janissary band music that was already on one of the official releases.

also, allow me to go ahead and cast my vote for the little scene about the wearer of the helmet being the final fool as the "soundbite" for this release. funny old thing to remember, but that's one of my all-time favorite Davison scenes!

For a bit more info this has come out.

From Private Eye Magazine:

SO. Farewell then Doctor Who, which has now disappeared for the summer, with the remaining six episodes from this year’s series due to be screened in the autumn. Farewell too, to executive producer Piers Wenger, who is leaving the BBC for a job at Film4. Could the two things be related?

News of Wenger’s intended departure followed the curious announcement the previous month that he was stepping down as head of drama at BBC Wales to work as a “creative leader” instead.
Commercial disaster
The decision to split the current series in two, meanwhile, was taken last year when it became apparent that both budgets and schedules on Doctor Who were running so far out of control it would be impossible to complete a 13-part series in time for a spring transmission.
Now, however, there are fears that the second tranche of episodes may not even be completed in time for BBC Worldwide to release a DVD box set of the series in time for the Christmas market, which would be a commercial disaster.
Show insiders blame much of the chaos on the decision taken by Wenger and his fellow executive producer Beth Willis last year to dispense with the services of producers Tracie Simpson and Peter Bennett, both of whom had worked on the programme since 2005. The pair were subsequently invited to return but declined.
The first series of their new joint venture, Baker Boys, was broadcast in January, with a number of other former Who crew also listed in its credits. “They decided they’d far rather work for less money than endure any more of Piers and Beth,” whimpers the Eye’s man in the Tardis. “The show is in a hell of a mess.”
Any old Ood
Showrunner and lead writer Steven Moffat has become expert at papering over the cracks, re-ordering episodes and finding creative reasons for spectacular monsters and CGI creations to be given as little screen-time as possible to save cash. But there was general dismay when sci-fi legend Neil Gaiman – whose much-anticipated episode had already had to be held over from the 2010 series due to a lack of funds – had to be informed that a further �200,000 shortfall in the budget meant he would have to rewrite it to include not the alien he had intended but instead an Ood which had been knocking about in the props store since 2006.
This, however, was far from the end of the bad news.
Programme chiefs in London were horrified to learn recently that BBC Wales is proposing not to make a full series of Doctor Who in 2012, but instead to put the programme on hiatus and merely bash out four “specials” as it did in 2009. This will leave an enormous hole in the BBC1 Saturday night schedule and a bigger one in the profits of BBC Worldwide, and will mean the corporation will be paying lead actor Matt Smith to spend most of the rest of this year doing nothing.
Soon after the Eye was published on Tuesday, the BBC confirmed that there will NOT be a full series of Doctor Who broadcast during 2012 but only “a good chunk” of episodes.

This has been reported on several Dr Who sites:

BBC1 Controller Danny Cohen today revealed that, after much speculation generated since the Private Eye article and subsequent BBC announcements last week, Doctor Who will indeed be returning in a curtailed form during 2012.

Speaking at the Church and Media Conference this afternoon, Cohen's comments were relayed via Twitter, with BBC Merseyside's Religious Editor Wayne Clarke reporting: "Danny Cohen says there won't be a full series of Doctor Who in 2012, but a special run for the anniversary in 2013". The BBC's Entertainment Correspondent Liza Mzimba confirmed the comments this evening, adding that other reported comments by Cohen on the decision being made to enable head writer Steven Moffat more time to write his other hit series Sherlock were light-hearted and not meant to be taken seriously.

No other details on how many episodes will comprise the 2012 run at present, though the BBC confirmed last week that fourteen episodes had been commissioned, including this year's Christmas Special, with Matt Smith at the helm in the role as The Doctor.

Update: commenting on the various media stories circulating over Cohen's announcement, Steven Moffat said: "Dr Who: misquotes and misunderstandings. But I'm not being bounced into announcing the cool stuff before we're ready. Hush, and patience."

Today however the teletext news service was reporting that Moffat needed time to write for Sherlock and Dr Who was being delayed because of this.

What a mess. Really depressed now. I only watch one programme on television and they can't even make that because of what appears to be incompetence and poor management.

What it could mean is that we start getting Doctor Who on during the winter evenings - if they make 14 episodes and show 7 from November and then keep showing it until February then we have about a years wait but then 5 in the row.

It means that Doctor Who, which as a codger I remember primarily as a Autumn Winter show from my young days is on at a time where things like Olympics, Sport, Eurovision Song Contest etc don't have any impact on the running and sunny weather has no impact on the ratings. It means that we get 14 episodes in a row with the Christmas episode being part of the normal run. It means that in 2013 the 50th Anniversary (23rd November) also falls on a Saturday so there is an episode shown on that night.

Moffat is of a similar age and may prefer it being on during the Winter months as Doctor Who is always better when it's dark outside :)

I seriously doubt that it's anything abvout Sherlock, Budget or Mismanagement.

thank you guys

nice thanx

That article is positively dripping with scorn; obviously written by a staunchy anti-Who "journalist" and therefore should be taken with a whole handful of salt.

Gaiman's episode was excellent; who gives a crap if a "budget shortfall" meant that a handful of flashy SFX shots had to go? The writing was top-notch. A bit of a budget cut is sometimes just what the doctor ordered (pardon the pun) as it helps creative people refocus their energies. With unlimited money, it's easy to think "never mind if it's a bit crap, because we can just throw lots of expensive CGI in there and nobody will notice" but when clever people try to do more with fewer resources... great things happen.

After all, Who was made on basically a sitcom budget from inception through 1989...

So what if we have another year with no full series? We had fifteen years with nothing at all, so I'm not complaining. Let it snooze for six months and build some genuine excitement for its inevitable return - revitalised and bursting with creativity. Rather that than "Oh, great - it's yet another series of Who! What is it this time? Daleks, Cybermen, Ood, Master, wow, this is original... ZZZZZZ" followed shortly thereafter by "Doctor Who is axed because ratings have dropped through the floor!"

So all we have left of Doctor Who Series 6 is 6 more episodes and the christmas episode (If a Christmas episode is confirmed), also if there maybe any info about the Series 6 OST being released near the end of Series 6.

OST: Yes, which makes it exactly the same length as every other series before it.

No info yet about the score CD, but it will come. That much is certain.

OST: Yes, which makes it exactly the same length as every other series before it.

No info yet about the score CD, but it will come. That much is certain.

Would be cool if they did a 2 disc of the first half of the season , then later this year do a 2 disc of the 2nd half , Dream On right! :)

I bet that's how it's gonna be trekker, it's a great idea to do so. Also, 2 covers for the CD :D

I loved this series, even if I suspected the twist. Love the Silence, they better come back.

Actually they were there, but we forgot...

What it could mean is that we start getting Doctor Who on during the winter evenings - if they make 14 episodes and show 7 from November and then keep showing it until February then we have about a years wait but then 5 in the row.

It means that Doctor Who, which as a codger I remember primarily as a Autumn Winter show from my young days is on at a time where things like Olympics, Sport, Eurovision Song Contest etc don't have any impact on the running and sunny weather has no impact on the ratings. It means that we get 14 episodes in a row with the Christmas episode being part of the normal run. It means that in 2013 the 50th Anniversary (23rd November) also falls on a Saturday so there is an episode shown on that night.

Moffat is of a similar age and may prefer it being on during the Winter months as Doctor Who is always better when it's dark outside :)



I'm from the era when Jon Petwee doctor used to run into the summer like the current version does.

I seem to remember that Dr Who suffered then and when Tom Baker took over they moved him to the Aurum/Winter/Spring slot so that he would start as the nights got darker and would finsh just before BST would start.

As most people will know TB years are some of the most popular and successful and this move that was done in the 70's by Phillip Hincliffe (then producer), proved it, but it also did hlep that he had some damm good stories that didn't need a bizzare end like RTD had to do

I bet that's how it's gonna be trekker, it's a great idea to do so. Also, 2 covers for the CD :D

I loved this series, even if I suspected the twist. Love the Silence, they better come back.

Actually they were there, but we forgot...
Possible Spoiler below :)





The Silence will come back or at thats what I read online I believe, because (just my thoughts) that River was the little girl in the space suit that killed the Doctor and the space suit was manipulated by the Silence all in a plot to kill the Doctor so everything has to come to a head , its not done yet :)
We Shall see Im quite often wrong hehe especially with this show.
If you look at the cast of the last show of series 6 many come back , I think we are going to have one heck of a series 6 finale.

and according to all , Matt Smith will be back for Series 7 :)

I already said this but I think at least some of Series 7 should be The Doctor and Melody (River) Pond ( as a young girl) travel togather.

and she has to call him , my sweetee Doctor and when asked why she calls him that she just looks at them and gives a big smile which of course drives the Doctor crazy.

I think Series 7 will be a new companion to travel with the doctor. because Rory and amy may leave at the end of series 6 to raise melody (since she is currently a baby) and maybe then maybe in series 7 The Doctor could visit them in a year where melody is around 11 years old and melody could travel in the tardis for abit with the doctor.

The 3 things that would make Series 7 awesome would be:

1. A possilbe return of Omega (i want to see a Revival Version of him)
2. The Dream Lord (He was a interesting enemy for the doctor to fight)
3. More of The Silence (If they are completey not destroyed, because didn't the Silence blow up the Tardis in the series 5 finale?)

Thank's:)

The only reason I am down about the Private Eye article is that I am older than some here and lived through the JNT years. Towards the end of that loads of negative presss came out and unfortunately this has more recently been revealed as fact. Makes it a bit difficult to blindly accept that the Beeb are capable when it comes to Dr Who.

@tango Right on. I mean, does it really matter whether it's an Ood or a new alien? It didn't have much to do, House was the (quite brilliant) main villain.

When I read that article, I'm reminded of Star Trek 5 vs Star Trek 2. In 5, Shatner has always said that he hates the fact that he couldn't do all the flashy stuff and whizzy effects he wanted to, despite being given the exact same budget that 4 got and did very well with 3 years earlier, which completely ignores the fact that 5's plot is a rotting pile of feces riddled with more holes than your average Stephanie Meyer novel. Contrast that to 2, which had less than half the budget of 5, and being made 7 years earlier meant technology was far inferior, and yet 2's effects are leagues above 5 (I'm ignoring the stock footage from 1 they put in there) because the director knew where to spend money: on sequences that were important to the plot.

Eh, extremely tangential rant over. My extremely long-winded point is that if you have a good story, it doesn't matter how unbelievably hectic, chaotic, or out of control a production was (Wizard of Oz, anyone?).

There have always been pirates... before we were pirates... grandpa was a pirate...

Dateline - UK 1964. Unions say records will put musicians out of work. Licensed radio only does live shows. Pop music doesn't get a play.

And then came Radio Caroline, pirate radio is born.

When Pirates Ruled The Airwaves is a great historical telling of how pop music got to the UK masses. Bill Nighy tells the story of how a group of mavericks made radio what it is today and in the process changed the entire landscape of British radio. It's a tale involving glamour, tragedy and political struggle - and all set to a soundtrack of the best music of the era.

Ripped from Smooth Radio, April 2009
Duration: 1 hour 30 mins
Reader: Bill Nighy
Quality: 192kbps
Size: 124 Mb
Format: mp3
http://hotfile.com/dl/97913955/604cb22/WPiratesRuledAirwaves.rar.html
Today, Radio Caroline can be heard on Sky Radio Channel 0199 and via Radio Caroline (http://www.radiocaroline.co.uk)

"Rested"? What the heck does that mean? Sounds too much like the Colin Baker era "hiatus."

A new one for you - 'The Awakening'...



Mixed and unmixed on 1 CD - the unmixed score was only 30 tracks and only ran for 17:23. The Mixed/stereo version went down to 17 tracks (20 including themes and intro excerpt) and ran for 16'43 (tying in nicely with the story).

Full CD art at a later date.

MP3 (57.72MB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FRSPQZXL)
FLAC (105.81MB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M7X2E4V0)

And new MP3 rips of 'The Visitation' (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GEY22CHS) &'Resurrection of the Daleks' (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7E085GRM) to go with the FLAC rips I put up a while ago.

Thanks DrMatt...I really do enjoy your work. http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Happy/happy-thumb-up-045.gif

What Zoran said. Thanks mate. Great stuff!

R

Can somebody point me to the revived series 1-4 soundtracks?
Thanks!

Can somebody point me to the revived series 1-4 soundtracks?
Thanks!

Go to page one of this thread and have at it :)

Go to page one of this thread and have at it :)

Thanks! probably should have started there! haha

Hmm weird, I dont get any emails/notificaions anymore from this place...so if a request is answered very late: that's why people :)

Dr Matt: Thanks again for those lovely scores!

Well, Exar, I asked for the season 6 Who soundtrack, like months ago, and yey...as you can see....no post, no link. **pout**

:D

*starts building his own TARDIS so he can travel forward in time to getthe series 6 soundtrack*

That is so SWEET of you. Let me know when you're back....:D

Get your TW series 4 IM icons and Wallpapers here...
http://www.starz.com/originals/Torchwood/downloads

Hello there,

A very quick posting here. I am after every single Dr Who theme from the 1960's to 2010. The 1960's remastered version & the proper clean Mp3 version's to listen to on my IPod, Also Extended Versions would be grateful. Please Inbox me with links. NEEDED ASAP

Exar Xan...I am sorry to report that there are now numerous dead links on page one. They are as follows...




13 (N) - The Web Planet & 18 (T) - Galaxy 4
Les Structures Sonores
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/dpz91p)

14-17 (P-S) - The Crusade, The Space Museum, The Chase & The Time Meddler
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ad3ogr)

22-24 (W-Y) - The Massacre, The Ark & The Celestial Toy Maker
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/25eqaj)

39-43 (OO-SS) - The Ice Warriors, The Enemy of the World, The Web of Fear, Fury From the Deep & The Wheel in Space
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8brnpx)

44-50 (TT-ZZ) - The Dominators, The Mind Robber, The Invasion, The Krotons, The Seeds of Death, The Space Pirates & The War Games
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vswcfd)

55-61 (EEE-LLL) - Terror of the Autons, The Mind of Evil, The Claws of Axos, Colony in Space, The Daemons, Day of the Daleks &
The Curse of Peladon
TV Rip compilation (contains sfx)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/b5rv7u)

63 (NNN) - The Mutants
Adapted from a BBC release
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/7izbob)

64-71 (OOO-VVV) - The Time Monster, The Three Doctors, Carnival of Monsters, Frontier in Space, Planet of the Daleks, The Green Death, The Time Warrior & Invasion of the Dinosaurs
TV Rip compilation (contains sfx)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/z6468k)

73 & 74 (YYY & ZZZ) - The Monster of Peladon & Planet of the Spiders
TV Rip compilation (contains sfx)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/znze9m)

81-84 (4G-4K) - Planet of Evil, Pyramids of Mars, The Android Invasion & The Brain of Morbius
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xoxtsa)

85 (4M) - The Seeds of Doom
Adapted from a BBC album release (DrMatt)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/nh7ftx)

131 (6M) - The Awakening
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/9sz73s)

141 (6Y) - Timelash
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
http://rapidshare.com/files/387233694/006_TIMELASH.mp3

143B (7B) - The Trial of a Time Lord: Mindwarp
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
http://rapidshare.com/files/387238608/009_MINDWARP.mp3

145 (7E) - Paradise Towers
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/4mw2i2)

146 (7F) - Delta and the Bannermen
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vd3gjw)

204 - The Beast Below
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20502%20The%20Beast%20Below%20Music.r ar

207 - The Vampires of Venice
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20506%20Vampires%20Of%20Venice%20Musi c.rar

208 - Amy's Choice
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20507%20Amys%20Choice%20Music.rar

209a - The Hungry Earth
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20508%20The%20Hungry%20Earth%20Music. rar

209b - Cold Blood
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20509%20Cold%20Blood%20Music.rar

210 - Vincent and the Doctor
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20510%20Vincent%20and%20The%20Doctor% 20Music.rar

211 - The Lodger
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20511%20The%20Lodger%20Music.rar

Whoops, double post.

Hmm weird, I dont get any emails/notificaions anymore from this place...so if a request is answered very late: that's why people :)

Yeah me either, is there a problem with the forum or something? :/ I finally decided to check back and only a couple of extra pages, maybe because nobody is being updated.

An a different note: We may not have Doctor Who for a while.. but how bloody AMAZING is Torchwood: Miracle Day :D I expected it might be a little too "americanized" but no, it absolutely worked! Brilliant! Children of Earth was pure genius, and this series has a similar idea and production, I can't wait to see what's to come :D

Hi Dr Matt... Have you done one of your lovely Soundtrack's for Silver Nemesis? It seems to be the only one I haven't got... the only SN OST I have is a very poor sound quality recording... Looking forward to Snakedance completed and Paradise Towers...

Yeah me either, is there a problem with the forum or something? :/ I finally decided to check back and only a couple of extra pages, maybe because nobody is being updated.

An a different note: We may not have Doctor Who for a while.. but how bloody AMAZING is Torchwood: Miracle Day :D I expected it might be a little too "americanized" but no, it absolutely worked! Brilliant! Children of Earth was pure genius, and this series has a similar idea and production, I can't wait to see what's to come :D

I KNOW. It's awesome. And, a propewr open and close credits......weeee.

Need soundtrack now....

I KNOW. It's awesome. And, a propewr open and close credits......weeee.

Need soundtrack now....

Yeah...hate the current trend of good shows with no open/close credits segments that seem to last about 10 to 15 seconds. I first noticed it started on SyFy...what a worthless channel it has become. :(

Hello there,

A very quick posting here. I am after every single Dr Who theme from the 1960's to 2010. The 1960's remastered version & the proper clean Mp3 version's to listen to on my IPod, Also Extended Versions would be grateful. Please Inbox me with links. NEEDED ASAP

Get it while it's hot:

Doctor Who Theme Collection


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6RBV2BOP

01 � Original Delia Derbyshire Theme (1963-1967) [William Hartnell through Patrick Troughton]
01. Extended Theme (Radiophonic) (2:22)
02. Extended Theme (Televised) (2:09)
03. Extended Theme (Stereo 2002) (2:21)

02 � Revised Delia Derbyshire Theme (1967-1980) [Patrick Troughton through Tom Baker]
01. Extended Theme (2:20)
02. Opening Theme (with Stutter) (0:43)
03. Opening Theme (0:44)
04. Closing Theme (0:53)
05. Closing Theme (with Middle Eight) (1:13)

03 � Unused Delia Derbyshire �Delaware� Theme (1972) [Used once on "Planet of the Daleks" original broadcast, restored to revised Derbyshire them on all subsequent editions]
01. Extended Theme (2:11)
02. Opening Theme (0:27)
03. Closing Theme (0:53)

04 � Peter Howell Theme (1980-1986) [Tom Baker to Colin Baker]
01. Extended Theme (2:42)
02. Opening Theme (0:37)
03. Opening Theme (Revised) (0:36)
04. Opening Theme (The Five Doctors) (0:35)
05. Opening Theme (Big Finish) (0:35)
06. Closing Theme (1:15)
07. Closing Theme (The Five Doctors) (1:16)
08. Closing Theme (Big Finish) (0:58)
09. Closing Theme (Big Finish Condensed) (0:17)

05 � Dominic Glynn Theme (1986) [Colin Baker "Trial of a Time Lord" season]
01. Extended Theme (2:55)
02. Opening Theme (0:42)
03. Opening Theme (Big Finish) (0:31)
04. Closing Theme (1:17)
05. Closing Theme (Big Finish) (1:02)
06. Closing Theme (Big Finish Condensed) (0:20)

06 � Keff McCulloch Theme (1987-1989) [Sylvester McCoy]
01. Extended Theme (2:40)
02. Opening Theme (0:53)
03. Opening Theme (Big Finish) (0:33)
04. Closing Theme (1:12)
05. Closing Theme (Big Finish) (0:50)
06. Closing Theme (Big Finished Condensed) (0:16)

07 � John Debney Theme (1996) [Paul McGann TV Movie]
01. Extended Theme (1:39)
02. Opening Theme (1:11)
03. Opening Theme (with Voice Over) (1:51)
04. Closing Theme (0:46)
05. Extra-Extended Theme (Fanmade mix by �Hardwire�) (3:27)

08 � David Arnold Theme (2000-present) [Paul McGann Big Finish Audios]
01. Extended Theme (1:46)
02. Season One Mini-Opening Theme (0:11)
03. Season One Opening Theme (0:30)
04. Season One Mini-Closing Theme (0:12)
05. Season One Closing Theme (0:45)
06. Season Two Opening Theme (0:30)
07. Season Two Mini-Closing Theme (0:23)
08. Season Two Closing Theme (0:56)

09 � Murray Gold Theme (2005-present) [Christopher Eccleston to Matt Smith]
01. Opening Theme (0:40)
02. Closing Theme (1:28)
03. Condensed Closing Theme (0:59)
04. Unused Opening Theme (0:44)
05. Unused Extended Opening Theme (1:02)
06. Unused Opening Theme (Trailer Version) (0:44)
07. Doctor Who Confidential Theme (0:23)
08. The Christmas Invasion Opening Theme (0:40)
09. The Christmas Invasion Theme Clip (0:30)
10. The Christmas Invasion Theme Middle Eight (0:50)
11. The Christmas Invasion Condensed Theme (0:58)
12. The Christmas Invasion Condensed Theme Alternate (0:58)
13. The Christmas Invasion Condensed Theme Alternate 2 (0:58)
14. Doctor Who XI (1:04)

10 � Big Finish Themes 01. Theme from �The Rapture� (0:37)
02. Seventh Doctor Special Opening Theme (0:29)
03. Seventh Doctor Special Closing Theme (0:41)
04. Unbound Theme A Opening (0:41)
05. Unbound Theme A Closing (0:51)
06. Scream of the Shalka Extended Theme (1:00)
07. Scream of the Shalka Opening Theme (0:36)
08. Scream of the Shalka Closing Theme (0:39)
09. Doctor Who Glam Rock Mix (0:55)
10. Song of the Zygon (3:25)

11 � Miscellaneous Themes [Remixes and covers]
01. Dimensions in Time Extended Theme � by Cybertech (6:34)
02. Mood Theme � by Mark Ayres (3:13)
03. Terror Theme � by Mark Ayres (4:16)
04. Latin Theme � by Mark Ayres (6:39)
05. Panopticon VII Regeneration Mix � by Mark Ayres (5:37)
06. Derbyshire Theme for New Series (0:40)
07. Geoff Love Version (2:21)
08. Don Harper Version (4:19)
09. Eric Winstone Version (3:10)
10. Mark Ayres Curse of Fenric Remix (2:20)
11. Mark Ayres Curse of Fenric Closing Version (2:12)
12. Mark Ayres Greatest Show in the Galaxy Closing Version (2:55)
13. Destiny of the Doctors Closing Theme (1:13)
14. Disco Version by Ron Grainer (3:41)
15. London Theatre Orchestra Version (2:55)
16. Sci-Fi Orchestra Version (1:17)
17. Unknown Remix (2:35)
18. Mod Theme (3:06)

Hi There!
I know I haven't been around in a while but I am trying to pop in from time to time. Just thought I'd share a couple of things I've recently completed. Just a couple of my absolute favourite DW soundtracks.

Doctor Who - 079 - Revenge of the Cybermen:
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N1UYE0MI)
I was devastated when this didn't get an ISO score on the DVD, I love this soundtrack, one of my all time favourites. As there was no ISO track this is just a mere selection of music I could scramble and salvage from the episodes so I'm afraid it's only about 25 mins worth of music, but it's still really great! :D

Doctor Who - 150 - Silver Nemesis:
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=26VR6H6N)
The complete DVD ISO score, again one of the best scores in my opinion.

All tracks are in mp3 format (except a SFX track in ROTC which is in wma format) and are ready for import into iTunes and played on iPods etc. Both scores are ripped and complied by me and come with album art also by me.


Exar Xan...I am sorry to report that there are now numerous dead links on page one. They are as follows...




13 (N) - The Web Planet & 18 (T) - Galaxy 4
Les Structures Sonores
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/dpz91p)

14-17 (P-S) - The Crusade, The Space Museum, The Chase & The Time Meddler
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ad3ogr)

22-24 (W-Y) - The Massacre, The Ark & The Celestial Toy Maker
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/25eqaj)

39-43 (OO-SS) - The Ice Warriors, The Enemy of the World, The Web of Fear, Fury From the Deep & The Wheel in Space
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8brnpx)

44-50 (TT-ZZ) - The Dominators, The Mind Robber, The Invasion, The Krotons, The Seeds of Death, The Space Pirates & The War Games
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vswcfd)

55-61 (EEE-LLL) - Terror of the Autons, The Mind of Evil, The Claws of Axos, Colony in Space, The Daemons, Day of the Daleks &
The Curse of Peladon
TV Rip compilation (contains sfx)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/b5rv7u)

63 (NNN) - The Mutants
Adapted from a BBC release
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/7izbob)

64-71 (OOO-VVV) - The Time Monster, The Three Doctors, Carnival of Monsters, Frontier in Space, Planet of the Daleks, The Green Death, The Time Warrior & Invasion of the Dinosaurs
TV Rip compilation (contains sfx)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/z6468k)

73 & 74 (YYY & ZZZ) - The Monster of Peladon & Planet of the Spiders
TV Rip compilation (contains sfx)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/znze9m)

81-84 (4G-4K) - Planet of Evil, Pyramids of Mars, The Android Invasion & The Brain of Morbius
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xoxtsa)

85 (4M) - The Seeds of Doom
Adapted from a BBC album release (DrMatt)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/nh7ftx)

131 (6M) - The Awakening
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/9sz73s)

141 (6Y) - Timelash
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
http://rapidshare.com/files/387233694/006_TIMELASH.mp3

143B (7B) - The Trial of a Time Lord: Mindwarp
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
http://rapidshare.com/files/387238608/009_MINDWARP.mp3

145 (7E) - Paradise Towers
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/4mw2i2)

146 (7F) - Delta and the Bannermen
TV Rip compilation (contains SFX)
Free large file hosting. Send big files the easy way! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vd3gjw)

204 - The Beast Below
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20502%20The%20Beast%20Below%20Music.r ar

207 - The Vampires of Venice
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20506%20Vampires%20Of%20Venice%20Musi c.rar

208 - Amy's Choice
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20507%20Amys%20Choice%20Music.rar

209a - The Hungry Earth
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20508%20The%20Hungry%20Earth%20Music. rar

209b - Cold Blood
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20509%20Cold%20Blood%20Music.rar

210 - Vincent and the Doctor
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20510%20Vincent%20and%20The%20Doctor% 20Music.rar

211 - The Lodger
Contains sfx
http://doctorwhomedia.cz.cc/audio/unofficial/Doctor%20Who%20511%20The%20Lodger%20Music.rar


I have also noticed this and in response I have uploaded the scores for The Web Planet & Galaxy 4 and also Vincent and the Doctor & The Lodger to replace the dead links (found below). I'll search through what else I have and upload what I can from the list when possible :)

Doctor Who - 013 & 018 - The Web Planet & Galaxy 4:
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K3F5FG8W)
Doctor Who - 210 - Vincent and the Doctor:
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C4YYAOHU)
Doctor Who - 211 - The Lodger:
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Torchwood wise, I have a couple of compilations of music which I have found on YouTube etc. for the first two episodes of Miracle Day but I'm still developing those and hope to post compilations for each episode when more have aired (However I'm in the UK and due to my stubbornness to watch MD on the tv I am running a week behind the US)

I'll try to pop back whenever I can with new rips and scores, in the meantime, Stay safe.
Best Wishes.
Dalekdude

Has anyone seen the trailer for the second half of season 6 yet? The very last scene, showing the Doctor being shot in episode one followed by him asking "Haven't you figured that out yet?" made the craziest thought cross my mind...

The Doctor that was shot was a Flesh duplicate or something like that. He used the same trick the Madam gloated using twice on him to trick them...and by extension Amy, Rory and River. Making the enemy (The Silence or whoever they are) believe they had finaly killed him...while the real Doctor plots their demise...
Too farfetched? What do you think?

Has anyone seen the trailer for the second half of season 6 yet? The very last scene, showing the Doctor being shot in episode one followed by him asking "Haven't you figured that out yet?" made the craziest thought cross my mind...

The Doctor that was shot was a Flesh duplicate or something like that. He used the same trick the Madam gloated using twice on him to trick them...and by extension Amy, Rory and River. Making the enemy (The Silence or whoever they are) believe they had finaly killed him...while the real Doctor plots their demise...
Too farfetched? What do you think?

I'm of the opinion that using a Flesh Doctor as the one shot by the astronaut is way too obvious. As well as a massive cheat. I don't think it'll be that simple, knowing the deviousness Moffat gets up to. :)

Has anyone seen the trailer for the second half of season 6 yet? The very last scene, showing the Doctor being shot in episode one followed by him asking "Haven't you figured that out yet?" made the craziest thought cross my mind...

The Doctor that was shot was a Flesh duplicate or something like that. He used the same trick the Madam gloated using twice on him to trick them...and by extension Amy, Rory and River. Making the enemy (The Silence or whoever they are) believe they had finaly killed him...while the real Doctor plots their demise...
Too farfetched? What do you think?


Well, maybe but Compare the way the Doctor "dies" in the trailer and in the episode: In the episode he just falls; here he flies off a little. Also the bowtie is different. This proves that something different will happen
And if you got over to BBC America you'll find this (not spoiler, just really cool)

Love that new coat!

Nice catch there. However the explanation could be much more down to Earth: a continuity error in Eleven's wardrobe when they re-shot his death at the hands of the Impossible Astronaut. Time will, to coin a phrase, tell.

Macdawson's idea has merit. I think "The Rebel Flesh" two-parter gave clues to how the Doctor will escape his death.

To wit:

When Eleven encounters the flesh for the first time a point is made in the script that the flesh is duplicating his essence, his soul as it were.
The Doctor figures out he is going to die in the future.
He arranges it so Amy (or SimAmy) is paired with the FauxDoctor to see if she can tell the difference between the real and the duplicate. She can't and she is the one the Doctor trusts above all others. (Now is this because flesh should recognize flesh or because once the flesh has "matured" it is as real as the original? Again we will see.)
Throughout the two parter we saw how the flesh and the originals think and feel the same thoughts and emotions. (Figuring out the pass code, the emotional reaction to the son's birthday.)
The Doctor learns how to stabilize the flesh using the Tardis's time field.
It's been in established in classic Who that Time Lords have a limited number of regenerations, thirteen if memory serves. If this still holds then Eleven is running out of regenerations.

We've seen in the previews the Doctor's skeleton hand clutching a dying Sonic Screwdriver and in another preview saying he's going to die and his time is running out.

My silly wild assed guess: the real Doctor will die, killed by the Impossible Astronaut who is River Song as a child. Moffat and crew won't cheat, the Doctor is dead. The flesh version, Doctor 2.0 will go on. (He's the one who appears in Episode One in the restaurant after the real Doctor is murdered.) Since he's never regenerated he gets his thirteen lives.

Of course Moffat could come up with something unexpected and I sound like I'm stuffed topful of wild blueberry muffins.

The Doctor almost seems to go out of his way to get killed - with witnesses, and without any shadow of a doubt - in the first episode of series 6. He rounds up all his friends, invites them to a specific time and place, and walks off to the Astronaut he knows will kill him. Clearly it was very important to him that people genuinely believe "The Doctor" is dead. It's tempting to say this Doctor is flesh, but wouldn't that be a little bit obvious? Moffat has made a lot of mistakes this past two series' but I really don't believe he'd hand you the answer on a plate. Concluding that the dead Doctor is Flesh is the first thing that springs to mind the moment you see that the Flesh exists. Moffat gives you a lot of weird stuff and then gives you the answer. He doesn't set up a spine-tingling finale, give you a glaringly obvious answer in episode five, and freewheel it through the next half a dozen episodes. Doctor dies in episode 1, reveal Doctor has a clone in episode 5. No, too simple. Flesh Doctor is a red herring. If he's not, and that's the explanation, Moffat will have missed the biggest boat in Who history.

My silly wild assed guess: the real Doctor will die, killed by the Impossible Astronaut who is River Song as a child. Moffat and crew won't cheat, the Doctor is dead. The flesh version, Doctor 2.0 will go on. (He's the one who appears in Episode One in the restaurant after the real Doctor is murdered.) Since he's never regenerated he gets his thirteen lives.

Of course Moffat could come up with something unexpected and I sound like I'm stuffed topful of wild blueberry muffins.
While I do think this is quite a bit less obvious than the "Flesh Doctor is the one who gets killed" theory everyone seems to enjoy feeling very clever about, I have a hard time believing Moffat would actually do that. Really, truly kill the Doctor. Dead and done. Forever. I'd have a very hard time accepting it myself, if this is indeed the case. I trust Moffat, but he's a sly one. I hope it's not true.

I hope that tangotreats is totally right and I am totally wrong. I want Team Moffat to come up with something completely brilliant that blindsides all of us. I don't want to have figured it out, rather have something unexpected where we say "how could we have missed that." Looking forward to Aug 27th and love Eleven's new coat. (Looks like he borrowed it from Capt Jack.)

Now here's a thought: have Capt Jack Harkness and Capt America meet in 1940's England. Adds a whole new meaning to the Whitman line "Oh Captain, my Captain."

Must stop mainlining expresso.

While I do think this is quite a bit less obvious than the "Flesh Doctor is the one who gets killed" theory everyone seems to enjoy feeling very clever about, I have a hard time believing Moffat would actually do that. Really, truly kill the Doctor. Dead and done. Forever. I'd have a very hard time accepting it myself, if this is indeed the case. I trust Moffat, but he's a sly one. I hope it's not true.

It would be almost as awkward as the Doctor palming Rose off with some carbon copy of himself while he goes off to live in another universe.

Killing the Doctor properly, really, honestly, properly, done, finished, would be rather colossal - even if they have built in the "hundreds of years into the future" thing as an insurance policy.

Don't forget that if this well and truly is the Doctor, and he well and truly dies at the hands of the Astronaut... then they have effectively said that Matt Smith will be the last Doctor.

If I'd written that episode and wanted to kill the Doctor, I'd have cast another actor and have him idly mention that he's a few dozen regenerations ahead. Given that the guy seems to get himself sufficiently injured to require regeneration every two or three years, let's just say I'm suspicious that Matt Smith's Doctor survives for two hundred years, goes back in time, phones up all his old mates, goes looking for an old, old enemy, and tops himself right in front of everybody...

I dunno about all that, that is most of the fun.

But, there is the idea that Regenerational limits are an artificial one, put in place and enforced by the Time Lords somehow. The mention of the limit was almost arbitrarily done at first, just a way to explain the Master's predicament, and not having cast a replacement for the actor yet. And, in the Five Doctors, they offer The Master a complete new regeneration cycle. If they are no longer around to enforce it, perhaps he can regenerate as often as needed. Certainly in this new series he has mentioned a coupla times that he'll just go on living and regenerating forever..

I think the answer will suprise us all ;) as tango pointed out to me some time ago the show is at the height of popularity the BBC would be nuts to stop now, I think they will keep making it as long as its popular and there are good actors to play the Doctor , its a fun role so the sky is the limit.
The Doctor has earned unlimited regenerations and will probably be given this by some all powerfull force or being , the universe needs the Doctor and the TARDIS will go on forever.
Long Live Doctor Who :)

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Now lets talk about when we are going to get this series 6 music , Ive loved it :)

And if you got over to BBC America you'll find this (not spoiler, just really cool)

Love that new coat!

Yeah that is a cool wallpaper...I downloaded about 200 DW wallpapers last month and currently using two interior tardis walls on my desktop and laptop. :D

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/post-your-desktop-30198/56.html#post1739740

HOLY COW what a thread!! This is some great work guys! Thanks!

Thanks Dalekdude and MadKalnod for the scores!

Good to see Zoran back as well. Hello!

(mostly absent) Recons

Thanks Dalekdude and MadKalnod for the scores!

Good to see Zoran back as well. Hello!

(mostly absent) Recons

I was never really away...I am here almost every day but thanks just the same. :)

I know a lot of people are still holding out hope for a CD release of Doctor Who Live (I'm one of them), but here's a little consolation prize: whilst surfing YouTube, I came across a theme remix which, although quite different, is still very close to the Live theme. It's probably the closest thing we'll ever get, so let's enjoy it while we can!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63RJsYBsicc

Huh, is there a reason why series five was take off the linked site? otherwise it could use a replacement.

heres a idea tango , the flesh Doctor is the easy answer so all of us true fans will reject it , and try to think of more complex things as stated above by some of us.
now the real answer will turn out to be the easy answer so we trick ourselves and he got us again.

:)

so the Doctor gets another ganger replaces himself with the ganger Doctor , the Impossible Astronaut kills the ganger Doctor , River is redeamed and released from jail , the Doctor sneaks up behind them and says Gocha [remember the Gochas that he and Amy shared in season 5] and we move on to season 7 with him saying Havent you figured that out yet? like at the end of the second half of season 6 trailer, leaving Amy Rory and Melody back on earth safe while he travels on with his Sexy Thing , The TARDIS.
As Amy said to Rory , it will always be The Doctor and his TARDIS as it shows him dancing around the console as he did at the end of The Doctors Wife.


oh of course Im wrong but I can have a active imagination too ;)

heres a idea tango , the flesh Doctor is the easy answer so all of us true fans will reject it , and try to think of more complex things as stated above by some of us.
now the real answer will turn out to be the easy answer so we trick ourselves and he got us again.

:)

so the Doctor gets another ganger replaces himself with the ganger Doctor , the Impossible Astronaut kills the ganger Doctor , River is redeamed and released from jail , the Doctor sneaks up behind them and says Gocha [remember the Gochas that he and Amy shared in season 5] and we move on to season 7 with him saying Havent you figured that out yet? like at the end of the second half of season 6 trailer, leaving Amy Rory and Melody back on earth safe while he travels on with his Sexy Thing , The TARDIS.
As Amy said to Rory , it will always be The Doctor and his TARDIS as it shows him dancing around the console as he did at the end of The Doctors Wife.


oh of course Im wrong but I can have a active imagination too ;)

That will probably most likely happen. It happened to me with who was River and then when they revealed that, I was like "I knew it!" So yeah, we're over thinking it but it'll surprise us I think nonetheless.

Love that new coat!

I agree, that is a sweet coat! =)
I know there was some wrangling going on with the Doctor's Shetland Tweed.
I even heard BBC was going to sell a replica that cost more than an actual Shetland Tweed...
So it looks like they went completely away from the short tweed to a jacket that even the 8th Doctor would be comfortable wearing ().

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But, there is the idea that Regenerational limits are an artificial one, put in place and enforced by the Time Lords somehow.

It would make sense that the Time Lords amed 12 as the artificial limit for the Masters sake and then made everyone forget through some wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff or just through typical Time Lord ineptitude. For being highly intelligent beings, Time Lords have done lots of silly stuff over the years.

I always thought that the 12 regenerations limit was artificially imposed by Rassilon, as being an utter bastard who attained true immortality (as seen in The Five Doctors) he didn't want to share it with any potential rivals. With Rassilon locked away in the final moments of the Time War, there's nothing to stop the Doctor from regenerating an nigh-infinite number of times.

As long as the Universe needs the Doctor he will be around :)

Just one week!!
Also: Here's an interview with Murray Gold from April 2011, don't know if you've seen it before: Murray Gold Interview - April 2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbSjHEKGl38)

I feel rather guilty for having to break this so close to the new series, dampening everyone's fun somewhat, but I feel this has not been adequately spread around yet, so I feel I must tell this rather shocking story.

You know I Am The Doctor? That awesome theme we've no doubt enjoyed so much since it's introduction last year? Well, I'm afraid to say it harbours a dark secret. When I tried telling people on YouTube about it, all I got was "YEH LOL" and other such dismissals. May be my fault for going to YouTube, as we all know YT comments are a source of great intellectual discussion, but nevertheless... here we go.

I Am The Doctor is a plagiarism so blatant Tyler Bates would call it shameless.

Now, hold on. Before you type your replies telling me how wrong I am, I want you to do one small thing for me. If you do, and you still believe I am wrong, you are more than welcome to blast me for the moron I am.

Here's what I want you to do:

1. Open the program you use to listen to music. Windows Media Player, iTunes, Winamp, whatever.
2. Obtain two mp3s. The first is "Words Win Wars" from the Series 5 OST, and the other is "Suicide Mission" from the Mass Effect 2 OST, available from Amazon MP3.
3. Put them both in a playlist, SM first and WWW second.
4. Play SM from 03:18. Take note of the melody the choir is performing.
5. At 03:46, hit the skip/next/fast forward/whatever button to skip to WWW.
6. Listen to the rendition of IATD at the beginning of the track.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Reddi, it does sound similar, but plagiarism? That's harsh, and I'm a huge fan of both ME2 and Dr. Who. They're both great, but hugely different.
I say they're similar with some notes, but it isn't a carbon copy, is it? And also, I Am The Doctor has enough variations to write a symphony, while ME2 doesn't, and Suicide Mission is sort of a new version of the main theme.

You also gotta wonder, what's Clint Mansell going to do?

I say they're similar with some notes, but it isn't a carbon copy, is it?

Dude, they're in the EXACT SAME KEY. Try that game again with the actual track I Am The Doctor. It's even structured the same, starting quiet and slow then building with more speed, instrumentation and shouting choir.


You also gotta wonder, what's Clint Mansell going to do?

I'm hoping he doesn't decide to chuck out all of Wall's themes, that would suck. Hard.

Dude, they're in the EXACT SAME KEY. Try that game again with the actual track I Am The Doctor. It's even structured the same, starting quiet and slow then building with more speed, instrumentation and shouting choir.

They sound similar sometimes. They're not the same. They have different rythms since SM has a lot of drums in the background. While IATD has a basis for violin. It ain't plagiarism.


I'm hoping he doesn't decide to chuck out all of Wall's themes, that would suck. Hard.

I doubt it. Mansell has a great talent for epicness. But I bet his gonna make a new theme for Shepard, but he's gonna leave the Mass Effect theme.

They sound similar sometimes. They're not the same. It ain't plagiarism.

All right. For the moment, let's assume they are just 'similar'. How would you feel if you'd spent many, many months working on a score, fine-tuning and perfecting the themes until you've got something brilliantly awesome, only to then find several months down the line that someone else is being showered with praise and treated like they just descended from Mount Olympus on high because they composed a theme if not lawsuit-inducingly close then heavily 'inspired by' that work you put so much effort into?

All right. For the moment, let's assume they are just 'similar'. How would you feel if you'd spent many, many months working on a score, fine-tuning and perfecting the themes until you've got something brilliantly awesome, only to then find several months down the line that someone else is being showered with praise and treated like they just descended from Mount Olympus on high because they composed a theme if not lawsuit-inducingly close then heavily 'inspired by' that work you put so much effort into?

I can't answer as a composer, since I'm not one even if I tried to once. Anyway, I may feel proud since someone actually heard it, was inspired heavily and created something wonderful.
Music isn't meant to be sold completely, at least not this genre, pop and all that is different. IMHO, this genre if music is meant to be heard and enjoyed, and sometimes being inspired by it; it ain't for stealing or laswsuits and stuff.

Now, ME2 came out before Series 5, right? They're different media, with huge fanbase and probably Gold and Wall haven't heard each others work. I wonder why nobody but you has encountered this. I ain't saying you're dumb or anything, it's just the first time I see someonce comparing SM with IATD. This may be a huge coincidence or something similar, but it ain't plagiarism.

I wonder why nobody but you has encountered this. I ain't saying you're dumb or anything, it's just the first time I see someonce comparing SM with IATD.

I'm not the only one to notice. In fact, I wasn't even the first to notice. Someone else on Twitter pointed it out first, and it blew my mind. I'd happily listened to ME2 and S5 without noticing the similarity ever since they both came out, but once the person pointed it out, I couldn't stop hearing the similarity every time I heard an MG track with a variation on IATD in it. Look at @dannystewart and @ChrisVMAdams on Twitter, and the various people they respond to on their feeds. I am not the only one noticing by a long shot.

Huh, okay. But it ain't plagiarism, IMO.

This talk of IATD plagiarism is intriguing... First of all, let's admit a few things about the IATD theme in its most basic form; it's barely a theme at all. It's essentially four notes on a repeating cycle accompanied by a highly cliched series of chord progressions.

That said, IATD is clearly based melodically, rhythmically, and instrumentally on this theme from Mass Effect. I was willing to forgive the "Da da da, dada da da da" stuff, but when we hit the secondary melody (sung by the choir at 2:15 onwards in I Am Tge Doctor) it really is too close for comfort; take it from a musician; IATD is the exact same theme plus some orchestral acrobatics and minus some synthesisers. Plain and simple. That much is not open to debate because it's simply fact. Absolutely, the Doctor Who version takes the "theme" in far more interesting directions and has considerably higher production values and compositional prowess attached to its execution... but ultimately we are looking at straightforward plagiarism. This is the dictionary definition; take something, make a few cosmetic alterations here and there, and present it as your own. That it isn't an identical copy isn't at all the issue. The IATD rhythmic device is present in "Suicide Mission" and so is the secondary melody; that fact alone provides proof of plagiarism.

I've never liked the theme, and always found it to function better as a motif (ie, one which recurs in endless variations throughout the score) and it never does anything clever in the ME2 track; it's just there and it's gone - so from that perspective, the Doctor Who version is the superior composition - BUT that does not excuse that the source material was clearly pilfered from Mass Effect!

Not cool, Murray, not cool.

As the guy who donated �3,000 to charity in order to win the opportunity to attend a scoring session earlier this year, I am singularly unimpressed.

Many composers have said that its a honor to hear some of their music being used by other composers who are more popular, I would just ask Murray himself , he seems open to questions about his work, send him a email , hes on twitter as stated above. The music is similar but plagiarism I think is too harsh a word.
You might as well lock up all the new composers of this century if thats the case , common guys ;) and many of the older ones too.
Ive been listening to filmscores since I was 10 and they all do it.

btw Im 54 now.

Dear Murray,
Why did you steal crappy music from Mass Effect, and try to pass it off as your Series 5 Doctor's Theme?
Yours Sincerely,
A Fan

Yeah, that'd go down well. ;)

And yes, it is plagiarism - uncomfortable though it is to admit, there is simply no other way to state the obvious facts. As has been discussed a million times already, there is a difference between homage, inspiration, and stealing - many things must be considered when deciding which is which and frankly, it's a decision that must be taken from a musicological perspective. Mozart was inspired by Haydn. Beethoven was inspired by Mozart. Brahms was inspired by Beethoven. There is a big difference between that (and other clearer examples of Homage - John Williams and Korngold, Korngold and Wagner, Goldsmith quoting Ride Of The Valkyries in King Solomon's Mines, or Anybody quoting the Dies Irae, etc) and some composer coming along and saying "OK, I like that melody and that rhythm and those chord progressions - now they're mine."

Gold made it better - but frankly anything is better than ME2 - but he is still handling stolen goods. If I steal a crap painting and improve it and make it into a good painting, I can't say it's my painting. To employ an artistic analogy, if you paint a picture of a house, and I paint a picture of the same house (composing using the same general musical language) I have not plagiarised you. If I see your painting and it moves me to paint a picture of my own - perhaps I might imitate a few technical features of your painting I particularly admire but otherwise I paint my own picture, I am seeking inspiration from you and I am paying homage to your work in mine. If I see your painting and copy it outright, perhaps changing the colour of the door, or moving the apple tree in the background from the left to the right and making it a peach tree, THEN I have plagiarised you. If I see your painting and copy it outright, but correct some of your perspective errors or maybe do a more realistic looking sky, I have still plagiarised you.

The key prospect is what am I painting? Am I painting the house, or am I painting your painting of the house?

I had noticed the similarity when I first heard IATD as well, but I don't know that I'd make accusations of full-blown plagiarism. The thing about the human brain is that it has an annoying tendency to take in information, forget where the information came from, and toss it back up into your consciousness and let you think you came up with it. I know, I've done it myself. It's called Cryptomnesia (http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Cryptomnesia):


Although occurrences are pretty rare, there are still some famous cases: Nietzche accidentally didn't write quite a bit of Thus Spake Zarathustra, George Harrison was forced to shell out almost $600,000 over a song he "borrowed," and an early incident with cryptomnesia permanently ruined the celebrity-author career of Helen Keller, who wrote up a fairy tale that it turned out had been told to her years before--much to her surprise.
Explanations are pretty thin on the ground. Cryptomnesiologists seem to think that, for some reason, your brain retains enough memory of the event to recall the event, but not the origin of the event, leading to the mistaken impression that you're the originator.

And Alan Moore has some crazed notion called Ideaspace (http://www.comicsbulletin.com/ambi/103160344722932.htm) to account for some of these things. Before we all grab our torches and pitchforks to go after Murray for this, I remind everyone of two of the dictums I try to live by:

"Never blame on malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity." and "Great minds may not think alike, but they often reach the same conclusions."

@tango Oh definitely (re: improvement via variations). One of the things that I really liked about the A Christmas Carol OST is the sheer amount of variations and how varied they were, from comedic in Geoff to heroic brass in The Other Half's Inside a Shark. That's the most saddening thing about this whole thing: I really enjoyed ACC's variations, and now they seem... colourless. (See what I did there? Mass Effect reference? Eh? Eh?) Seriously though, that was rather annoying in ME2, that instead of varying on the theme they basically just tracked in the same performance whenever it was needed (or performed so similarly as to be indistinguishable).

@Kalnod "Never blame on malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity." Tell that to @dannystewart, who has been called, and I quote, "a mean, two-faced, rude and inconsiderate young man" by Murray himself.

Well, for starters Murray Golds "rendition" doesn't sound like someone took a huge dump on a snythesizer!

MadKalnod: Now, that is of course a possibility. I've also done it myself. I remember writing a great piece and being so proud of it, and playing it to somebody expecting them to fall at my feet in adoration - and instead they pointed out that my theme was There'll Always Be An England. Not just a couple of notes, not just a vague sensation, but the whole melody from start to finish. GOD DAMMIT.

I would say, however, that if we are going by Occam's Razor, and we have three possibilities:

a) Murray Gold, by SHEER COINCIDENCE, arrived at these same chord progressions and melodies absolutely independently.
b) Murray Gold subconsciously regurgitated music that he'd heard before but didn't realise he'd done so.
c) Murray Gold couldn't think of a theme, or ran out of time, and so used the ME2 theme.
d) The producers had the ME2 piece as a temp track and pestered Gold to use it.

So, Mr Occam states that the simplest explanation must be the truth. So, let's toss out the two options that have to do with astoundingly unlikely coincidence and advanced psychological brain mechanics respectively. We're left with C and D. Take your pick.

Having spoken to him and Ben at length about the scores, hearing how he is basically left completely alone to write music and the only guidance he gets is occasional scripts and plot synopses, I am inclined to plump with C - he ran out of time or couldn't think of anything good, liked the ME2 track, and tossed it in there hoping nobody would notice.

I still love it however he got the idea for it.
There have been countless discussions on this very subject at that other board as some of you know it might be interesting to see how some of them feel about this ..................or not , it happens , time to move on , I still think its a great piece. ;)

just for ha ha's has anyone tried to figure out excactly when each piece was written we might be blaming the wrong person and not the date shown on the cd.

Mass Effect 2 (and Soundtrack CD) was released in January of 2010, Doctor Who Series 5 started in April... Assuming a late scoring session, that would have given Gold enough time - just - to hear ME2 and work it into the score. It's a bit tight, though. How very bizzare. I'm still in no doubt whatsoever that Who stole from ME, but that is one stupendously quick turnaround time.

Did ME2 perhaps have a demo release a few months prior, that included "Suicide Mission"?

Or does Gold have his very own Tardis...?

I'd like to point out 2 things here:

1. The Western octave contains a total of 12 notes. This means there is actually quite a limited way of arranging notes, so it is inevitable that many tunes will contain similarities. Chord progressions in particular are quite limited - just listen to this as an example: The Axis of Awesome 4 Chords - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHBVnMf2t7w)

2. We all absorb the music we hear. Most composers subconsciously use little motifs that please them, and are often unaware as to their originality (or otherwise). Paul McCartney had to play "Yesterday" to a few people before accepting that it wasn't somebody else's tune. Mike Oldfield's approach is often to deliberately take other people's compositions and to redo them in a way that appeals to him.

The "12 note problem" is only applicable to single-polyphony melody and is really only useful if all music is played by one player and can be a maximum of twelve notes length in total.

To revisit my splendid art analogy, it's like arguing that all paintings are of the same thing on the grounds that there are only three primary colours. (Or at least attempting to excuse the fact that your painting of a house looks exactly like *my* painting of a house on the same grounds.)

As for Chord progressions, that video really just highlights the lack of originality and reliance on standard textbook chord work employed by popular musicians. It's hardly relevant to the world of orchestral music.

For starters, there are more chords than notes, and standard chords can be augmented with chromaticism, creating still more chords. Chords can be completely consonant, consonant with augmentation, and entirely dissonant.

As for progressions, provided it is musically valid any chord can progress to any other chord. Back to the old probability studies as regards you coming up with the same progression - five times in a row - as I did... unless we were both talentless hack artists who used tired, cliched, worn out, previously established chord progressions!

And, if you want to get into the realms of probability study (I don't - I had enough of that at college) shall we think about the probability of selecting six chord progressions, then in writing a melody one note, then another, then another, then another, then another, then another, then another, then another, then another - in precisely the same order as another person who was asked to do the same thing? ;)

I entirely agree with your second point, but not with your use of it to effectively justify any and all forms of musical plagiarism. We absorb music and it affects us on a subconscious level; sometimes without intending to, we squirt out music we've already heard and mistakenly believe it to be creativity. Of course that happens, it happens all the time. But you have to be pretty damn UNcreative (not to mention completely asleep at the wheel from a musical perspective) to "accidentally" regurgitate virtually an entire piece of music (or at least both major ideas, a sub-melody, a rhythmic structure, and a general sense of arrangement) without realising you were doing that.

I'm sure if a few weeks after Hamlet premiered, another author wrote a story set in the Kingdom of Mendark about Prince Damlet taking revenge on his Aunt Claudia, etc, and the author feigned ignorance and pleaded "It was a subconscious mistake - I saw Hamlet last week and then went home and wrote this story, and never realised that it was actually a big stinking ripoff of Hamlet!" or "I have never seen Hamlet; I just happened to arrive at the exact same plot and scenario and characters as my learned colleague Mr Shakespeare, completely by chance!" then he would've been rightly strung up in the village square for a week whilst disgruntled townsfolk lobbed rotten tomatoes at his crotch...

Series 6 part 1 was released (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Doctor-Who-Series-Six-Part-One-Blu-ray/23644/) some time ago so one would think they'd release its sound track too, wouldn't one.

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so the Doctor gets another ganger replaces himself with the ganger Doctor , the Impossible Astronaut kills the ganger Doctor , River is redeamed and released from jail , the Doctor sneaks up behind them and says Gocha [remember the Gochas that he and Amy shared in season 5] and we move on to season 7 with him saying Havent you figured that out yet? like at the end of the second half of season 6 trailer, leaving Amy Rory and Melody back on earth safe while he travels on with his Sexy Thing , The TARDIS.
As Amy said to Rory , it will always be The Doctor and his TARDIS as it shows him dancing around the console as he did at the end of The Doctors Wife.

moontrekker - That's a pretty good theory though it does make my brain go ouch!
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The Silent: "Fear me, I've killed hundreds of Time Lords."
The 11th : "Fear me, I've all of them."

moontrekker - That's a pretty good theory though it does make my brain go ouch!
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The Silent: "Fear me, I've killed hundreds of Time Lords."
The 11th : "Fear me, I've all of them."[/QUOTE]

hehe yea I come up with some stuff , maybe I missed my calling , ok Moffat move over, I enjoy allot of the "who done its" and "who is its" but I think after this season is ended I would like some good old fastion whos , hard core fans know what I mean :)

now for me the more important question , MURRAY!! wheres the music :) my Doctor Who section of my cd case wants the season 6 music, watched "The Imposible Astronaut" again and man that music is good.

got another curve ball for ya [unless someone else thought of this first] The Silence was really trying to help the Doctor and was taking Amy to keep the other group from getting her, I know too far out :)

Not every season (well none of them so far) have had a part 1 release and a part 2 release. I would bet we will not get a new album until after the whole season has broadcast, possibly well after. I'd bet on that. As for the rest of this...I missed it all. What is ME, and can anyone link me with said track, so I can hear for myself before telling Tango and the others to shove it?

(KIDDING, Tango, kidding. But yea, I wanna hear myself first. )

@Babydoll, ME stands for Mass Effect, a RPG videogame series created by Bioware since 2007 which was when the first game came out, 2010 for ME2 which the track is from, and 2012 for the 3rd and last epic game. Incredible games BTW, like a big ass Star Trek. The track everybody's hating, sorry criticizing is this one: Mass Effect 2 OST - Suicide Mission - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw)

I'm off with that debate. I love the track as well as IATD, and Mass Effect has some of the most awesome music I've ever heard. But, I'll just be leaving now.

According to my on-screen cable guide, the new episode on Saturday is called "Let's Kill Hitler"...:D

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OK...listened to, and downloaded. Imma putting it into my Who play list as I Am The Doctor slow version, so nya.

Sorry, mr. Gold, but that is just too weird. I hope it is just one of those things, but dunno. Does disappoint me a bit if true..:(

[QUOTE=babydoll;1766998]According to my on-screen cable guide, the new episode on Saturday is called "Let's Kill Hitler"...:D[COLOR="Silver"]

It actually said that at the end of A Good Man Goes to War.

Can't wait!

Wow, so much libel in so little time! My friends' media law lecturers would have a field day on this thread! Assertions in either direction in the plagiarism argument are probably not a good idea.

Libel is only libel if:

a) It is proven that the alleged libellous statement is false.
b) It is proven that the alleged libellous statement was made without adequate research to prove its truthfulness.
c) In the act of making the statement, the accused party is harmed.

This discussion is not libellous because a) the statement IS true, and b) research has been undertaken, and c) is a moot point because a truth is a recognised defense against accusations of libel.

Any potential lawsuit would presumably be conducted according to English law.

That, and, have you ever heard of a genuine lawsuit (and I don't mean Internet Tough Guy threats of lawsuits - I mean actual lawsuits that end up in court) being brought against people posting absolute incontrovertible fact on an Internet forum? ;)

Finally, unfounded accusations of libel can in themselves be libellous. Watch your step, my friend. ;)

Over the decades, the 11 Doctors, their companions, and others including the Master had some memorable line. Mass Effect 2 had its fair share of memorable lines. With that, here's a fun little quiz for you guys. Read each quote and then choose which are from Doctor Who and which are from Mass Effect.

You're not getting graded on this so don't engage the search engines. Also since some quotes consist of only a couple words, it's probably best to go with what first comes to mind.
Here are the lines

Which are DW (Doctors 1- 11) and which ME2?
"I am the vanguard of your destruction."
"I like this human! He understands!
"I'll dance next to you, if you want to think we're dancing together go ahead."
"It’ll be fine after we slap on some paint. No one will be able to tell the difference.”
"You travel with fascinating companions Doctor."
"I was thinking of installing some lava lamps. Maybe some Christmas lights for ambiance. What do you think?"
"You know what I hate about deep space? Crap radio stations from two hundred years back. My gosh, we were idiots."
"I have ruled out the possibility of an artificially intelligent virus, unless it's very intelligent... and toying with me.
"Do you have anything a little more flashy? I want something that says: 'I own this room. I own you.'"
"...I can’t believe that worked."

After you've guessed, take a look at the answers.
Good I hope you had fun. OK. The correct answer is: All quotes are from Mass Effect 2.
You can google them if you want to check the veracity of my claims.
To get you started, here's two of my sources (there were others):

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1540125/quotes

http://mattmarquez.com/blog/?p=79
Don't hate the player, hate the game or put another way, Do not fault the successful participant in a flawed system; try instead to discern and rebuke that aspect of its organization which allows or encourages the behavior that has provoked your displeasure.

LOL! That has given me more than a passing interest in Mass Effect, which I genuinely didn't believe possible! :)

You should play them, it's massive, as I said, as big as the Star Trek universe or Dr. Who's. You create you're hero Shepard and go save the universe, and every decision you make in one game passes to the other one. It's just amazing. The 3rd is coming out next march, and all have been praised a lot.

Now then, who's dying to see "Let's Kill Hitler"?

The title alone makes me giggle.

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13 (N) - The Web Planet & 18 (T) - Galaxy 4
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Could some of you please re-upload these deleted files?

Thanks, Zoran http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Happy/happy-thumb-up-045.gif

Could you reupload the celestial toymaker soundtrack or give me a link to it plz. ty XD

there is quite a bit of series 6 music on youtube has anyone here put anything togather :)

Thanks

no opinions on "Lets Kill Hitler" yet well I thought it was good some confusion about River still but thats the show , hehe, anyway between the IATD playing there are some great music from Mr Gold as well really looking forward to the series 6 music.

I absolutely loved it! River's "origin" wasn't what I expected, and the comedy was cool. Also, we have a new piece of music to look forward to. When SPOILERS River saved the Doctor, the music sounded amazing there, need the score now!

The series ends in October 1, so I'm betting we'll get the soundtrack with any luck in December.

Here we go guys for all who fans too download Free Doctor Who Lets Kill Hitler Unreleased Music Also Got Alot Of Series Six Music On My Bandcamp To Download for Free Heres A Link Doctor Who- Let`s Kill Hitler Unreleased Music | Lostpredators (http://lostpredators.bandcamp.com/album/doctor-who-lets-kill-hitler-unreleased-music)

Glorious music for that beautiful Amy/Rory/Mels ("Rory's gay") scene... Simply beautiful. Easily my second favourite piece of score for Series 6. (The first being a brief but gorgeous love theme from The Doctor's Wife.) As I have said before, Murray's strength is emotional. Love it, love it.

Quite a few of the Matt Smith soundtracks are down, could we get these on megaupload too please? Thanks

I've enjoyed series six quite a bit, "Let's Kill Hitler" was bonkers crazy and I loved it. The only real problem that I had with it though was that I was truly hoping that Mels wasn't merely a plot device but actually Amy and Rory's childhood friend. It would have been nice to have her to revisit later on. I loved the actress that played her. Once again Murray is on top of his game this series and with Torchwood: Miracle Day. Speaking of...since I've been away from the thread a while, has there been any info about releases for Series Six or Miracle Day yet? Or should we expect the usual release dates?

Mels was nothing more than a red herring; but a red herring only really works if it is actively leading you in the wrong direction for a reasonable amount of time! As it turned out, it was a case of "Here is Mels, she is Rory and Amy's friend, but NO SHE ISN'T BET YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING!!!" --- Didn't see that coming? Ten minutes before it came I never even knew she bloody existed! Still, she was a pleasant-enough diversion, and the recent propensity for flashbacks (not to mention The Doctor consistently meeting Mels/Melody/River in reverse order) certainly leaves the door open for her to reappear at some stage. Let's not forget, she is Amy's daughter...

As for a release date for six... Nothing announced, but it's a fairly safe bet that it will be around the end of the year.

The broken-up production schedule appears to have allowed for more orchestral sessions; we have the one in January that I went to - 60 minutes of music for the first six episodes. And there has just been another (another 60 minutes or so) which covers the final six including the big finale.

There also appears to have been another orchestral session somewhere along the lines - Ben said that the formerly small-ensemble London sessions were getting so big they were almost full-orchestra now.... because there was a LOT of music in the first half of the series that I never heard at the session...

So basically there's an absolute ARSELOAD of really great music to come on the Series 6 soundtrack. whenever that should happen...

So we'll get amazing music this time around. I bet it's going to be 1 CD for Part 1 and CD2 for Part 2. They better fill those CDs with almost 80 minutes :D

Plus another Christmas Special score would be nice as well...but that was an unexpected surprise earlier this year.

Plus another Christmas Special score would be nice as well...but that was an unexpected surprise earlier this year.

Talking about it, was there ever a FLAC rip of that CD? Of Christmas Carol?

Glorious music for that beautiful Amy/Rory/Mels ("Rory's gay") scene...

hrmmm... What scene was that!? I didn't recall a gay scene. (Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm just saying) I just recall that he was mostly going punching out everybody.

The scene in the bedroom; Mels is trying to cajoule Rory and Amy into getting together, but Amy protests that this is impossible because Rory is gay. (She arrives at this conclusion because she has never known Rory to show interest in a girl - of course, the real reason is because he's in love with her but she does figure it out eventually thanks to Mels' interfering.)

The scene in the bedroom; Mels is trying to cajoule Rory and Amy into getting together, but Amy protests that this is impossible because Rory is gay. (She arrives at this conclusion because she has never known Rory to show interest in a girl - of course, the real reason is because he's in love with her but she does figure it out eventually thanks to Mels' interfering.)

Great scene , I can hear Mels saying , hes in love with you stupid head :)

The scene in the bedroom; Mels is trying to cajoule Rory and Amy into getting together, but Amy protests that this is impossible because Rory is gay. (She arrives at this conclusion because she has never known Rory to show interest in a girl - of course, the real reason is because he's in love with her but she does figure it out eventually thanks to Mels' interfering.)
Oh yes of course, now I remember, that was sandwiched between Mels two great lines: "The penny's in the air..." 'gay' scene "...and the penny drops"

There's a pleasant remix of the DW Theme on the advert for the Day of the Daleks DVD which I quite liked. Here it is...
Theme Remix 2011 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ohc5ir)

Recons

Some years ago (early 1990s I think) there was a band made up of Dr Who fans called "The Bessies". They recorded an EP of around 4 songs, one of which you can hear on YouTube: Silly Song (1991) by the Bessies - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBd2Jw1OTVg)

Since then, the term "trock" has been coined (Time Lord Rock). One website has a list of Trock bands here: List of Trock Bands � Time Lord Rock News (http://timelordrock.wordpress.com/list-of-trock-bands/)

Not come across any examples yet in this thread so thought I'd throw it out there...

The Girl Who Waited , very good episode Karen Gillian was superb as Older and Younger Amy, loved Murrays variations of the themes , really liked the guitar work on it when she went through the door to the garden.

Thank goodness, The God Complex was a return to form after the awful episodes from the last two weeks. I had just got to the point that I thought splitting the season was a really bad idea when it looks like things are getting better.

I dont know, I liked TGWW more
but this one was better than the 2 that came before that episode

Ive loved the whole series and Im a old Whovian :)

Am I the only one noting a lot of reused music in the last 2 episodes...?

Am I the only one noting a lot of reused music in the last 2 episodes...?

THey're re-using them, but they re-use the good music :D
IATD hasn't been heard a lot lately though, which is odd. But the new music I've managed to hear is great. Hope we get the soundtrack soon. November seems nice.

I Am The Doctor featured in the latest one, though, didn't it? i am loving all of the second half of this season, absolutely....

I Am The Doctor featured in the latest one, though, didn't it? i am loving all of the second half of this season, absolutely....

Yep, when they lured the minotaur thing. I adored this season though, especially the last episode, so sad....
Oooh, Craig's back!

Fuck me... I'm really genuinely glad somebody is enjoying this SERIES (not a season; Americans have seasons, the British have a series) because I've found it to be - with the exception of perhaps five or ten minutes in total - an absolute unmitigated disaster. Completely hopeless. Cheap, stupid stories. Stereotype characters. Political posturing. Weirdness over substance. Annoying Doctor. Annoying Amy. Here's to another big, sprawling, hopelessly nonsensical, overcooked, plotless, emotionless, cobblers of a finale two parter... :/

RIP New Who 2005 - 2010, you will be missed.

I found the first half of this series to be pretty awful. But both The Girl Who Waited and The God Complex were rather better - a late return to form.

TANGOTREATS DOCTOR WHO EPISODE GUIDE, SERIES 6

The Impossible Astronaut: Convoluted, contradictory nonsense; the whole episode serves no purpose other than to establish that The Doctor will die (but not really) and give some vague hints as to who River Song might be.

Day of the Moon: Doctor is implied to have sorted out Silence (we never see the results - we just see the Doctor grimacing a lot and then buggering off in the Tardis) by fucking with one of the most important historical events of all time. Drop in more vague hints about River. Moffat takes over RTD's former role of turning entire plotlines into Gay rights soapbox time.

Curse Of The Black Spot: Boring, claustrophobic story in which Rory "dies" again and once again, sweet sod nothing of any consequence actually happens.

The Doctor's Wife: Flashes of brilliance in a story with massive potential, none of which was really realised; episode rushed, "House" character grossly underutilised; needed to be a big-budget two-parter but was treated like a filler episode.

The Rebel Flesh: Also serves no purpose except to provide an opportunity for yet another episode in which nothing happens except tense conversations in dingy rooms. Condescending sub-plot about Gangers vs Humans that could have been really great but was ultimately limp and dull and exists only to establish further confusing plot developments re Ganger Doctor = Doctor Not Really Dying, or IS IT???!!!?!?!!!!oneoneoneone

The Almost People: A carefully constructed story that beats us REPEATEDLY over the head with the premise that Ganger Doctor is COMPLETELY indistinguishable from Real Doctor as even Amy cannot tell them apart. This is either telling us that Dead Doctor is Ganger Doctor - essentially spoiling the finale, or it's a whole episode of Red Herring; meaning it is literally 50 minutes of putting you off the scent. Interminged with cheesy "Gangers and Humans Work Together For Common Good" and "Cute Kid Talks To Daddy" nonsense that pads out time.

A Good Man Goes To War: Biggest letdown in history. Weeks and weeks of build up - River opining melodramatically that the Doctor has "never risen so high" but will "fall so low"... and in reality, The Doctor scares off some monks by yelling at them, and then makes a daft mistake which kills a few people. The Doctor shouted, made a mistake, and somebody died. Doesn't this happen every single episode? FFS. River is revealed as Amy's daughter which has been made glaringly obvious for at least the last five episodes. A bit more RTD soapbox.

Let's Kill Hitler: 50 minutes of playing silly buggers with the audience - let's kill the Doctor, oh, but wait, we CAN'T because he will die in four episodes time! Honest he will! That's why we have spent the entire series doing basically nothing but trying to convince you that this is so.

Night Terrors: Weird crap, no story, no characters, Rory whingeing about being dead, Doctor pretends to have a son for a little while, Council estates are horrible, blah blah blah.

The Girl Who Waited: Moffat continues his obsession with using and re-using particularly moody sounding phrases from previous episodes - The Girl Who Waited, The Mad Man With A Box, etc, etc. Amy becomes a bitch, and all common sense is thrown out of the window in order to provide a nice, neat "Love conquers all" conclusion, and a crass "OMG AMY #2 IS DEAD HOW SAD BUT NEVER MIND BECAUSE SHE WAS OLD AND WRINKLY AND HAD A GO AT ME A LOT, AND THE ONE I HAVE NOW IS HOT AND SEXY SO HURRAH!" finale.

The God Complex: Political posturing, more weird stuff instead of a story, cliched stereotype characters, Doctor is weak and sad and hopeless. Doctor makes stupid mistake and again people are killed. Doctor realises that he has to make Amy hate his guts in order for her to survive. Doctor kills scary minotaur guy but not before minotaur guy gets off some cutting remarks about how badly The Doctor is sucking these days. Much potential squandered yet again. Did the Doctor see himself in his room? What did Rory see? What did Amy see? WHO CARES? Doctor dumps Amy again (repeat of "I'm so gloomy because everybody I know dies or gets hurt or whatever" drippy horseshit from 10th Doctor.)

And, so here we are at the present day... ;)

Really looking forward to next week... don't know about you chaps... ;)

People are always trying to find new ways to complain about the latest Who. Quite a shame, since it's one of the best shows on television right now. If you don't like the direction it has taken, why keep watching? To give yourself something to complain about? I don't mind it so much when people complain about movies in a similar fashion, but television shows give you plenty of chances to jump ship if you don't like where a particular show is going, so I can't see why someone would keep watching the new Who if they've hated it thus far.

Personally, I've been enjoying it quite a bit, and always find myself sucked into an episode. It takes a lot for that to happen with me, especially with science fiction shows, so I quickly forgive whatever faults there may be with it. But again, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple as that.

Now then...WHERE'S MAH SEASON 6 SOUNDTRACK?!

Tango, Moffat didn't write The Girl Who Waited. Too bad you can't enjoy it though, it's the best show out there and to really enjoy it it's an honor.
Don't overthink stuff and play along with the show. Don't nitpick and hate, watch and enjoy.

You're becoming a Who hater, and that is never good.

ok Tango and I cancel eachother out , you guys figure out the rest ;)

Yay, Cybermen come back!

And Cybermats! They're so cute, they look like shoes with teeth!

See....I am not trying to figure anything out. I am not worrying about plot. I just enjoy the ride, and allow myself to get taken down the weird turns. I LOVE Matt Smith's Doc....the 11th is my favoritest, even above my first, Tom Baker. Tango, I'm sorry you feel let down, I am. Personally, I am not expecting anything at all, so I am not let down. After so many years of not being on, and after some of the later years of being on, it is just a mercy to be able to see new episodes, especially over here.

The Doc Rocks!! @baby: funny I say the same thing about film scores :) Enjoy them for what they are and stop trying to analyze the crap out of them.

Sorry tango my friend I love ya but DWHO rocks my world.

Tango, you are right. Like a story as The Doctor's Wife with so much potential, stupid clueless running in the TARDIS.... It should had have a two parter to explore the Doctor-TARDIS-relationship now it was more like a trowaway but seeing Moffat re-using every storyplot (with just a small adjustment) as soon as possible we can expect a new TARDIS-story in series 7...
I like Moffat as a writer, as he wrote the best stories for RTD's era, but he is not so great as headwriter and exec-producer (just read ' The Writers Tale' & 'The Writers Tale- The Final Chapter' and you know why).

some of you are just too pickey , enjoy the show for what it is geesh :) sorry its just my opinion I have a rep for loving most everything those who know me know that ;)

tango and I have had this discussion before and we steer away from it , hehe so never mind just thinking out loud , pay no attention to Mad Moonie in the Chat Room :)

No offense, moonie, but I am really tired of this recent trend which jumps on anybody who has an opinion other than "it's unreservedly wonderful" and attempts to beat him into submission with the old, cliched retorts - "if you don't like it, don't watch it", "you're overanalysing it", "enjoy it for what it is", "you should be grateful Who is on at all" and others.

BRoswell accuses me of being a "hater" (sorry, I don't speak modern slang - I don't know what that is) and says that if I don't like the direction the show has taken, I should stop watching. Doctor Who means a great deal to me - it's been with me through my life, and I've spent a lot of time and money in pursuing my love of the show (most notably winning a �3,000 auction to attend the scoring session last year). It's a very close friend to me. Just because my dear friend of forty years makes what I consider to be some bad decisions, doesn't mean I will immediately abandon him; I will continue to support him, take an interest in his affairs, offer him my genuine good-natured assistance as any good friend would, and be there at the end to help him pick up the pieces.

And so, yes, I'm crushingly disappointed with the way the current series has progressed, but that doesn't mean I'm all set to angrily state "Fuck Doctor Who!" and start "hating" it. I am a true and genuine fan; and I can happily remain so even at times when the show is disappointing me. Unlike some, I evaluate every episode, every score, as an individual entity and will not indiscriminately adore everything and anything that is related to Who. I love Doctor Who, but I dislike this series; and my opinion is perfectly valid - and frankly, more useful in the greater scheme of things than the opinion of somebody who loves everything.

Receipt of genuine criticism, combined with the humility to accept it as it is intended (good-naturedly) is the way in which humanity strives to improve itself. Good enough is not good enough.

If you're having a great time with this series, GOOD FOR YOU! I'm not. People are different. Perhaps I'm being overly analytical. Perhaps you're being overly forgiving. Perhaps it's a mixture of both. Without diversity of opinion, we would be nothing.

I really, REALLY like Matt Smith's Doctor. He is fantastic. He really is old and young. Whereas Tennant (another fine Doctor) was exhuberant and confidence-inspiring, Smith is frail, wry, and unsure. He makes mistakes. He lies. He does what he has to do. There's a lot I really like about the direction the series is taking, but overall my general impression is that it is weak. I am not enjoying it. RTD had a lot of problems, sure, but now that he's gone I miss what he brought to the series. As others have observed, Moffat is a great writer (Silence in the Library, The Girl In The Fireplace, Blink - some of the best writing ever seen full stop) but as a showrunner, he is overstretched and seems to be having a negative impact on the show as a whole. This is sad.

RTD Finale: The Doctor's most feared enemy insinuates himself into government, takes over the world, and sets about wiping out humanity.
Moffat Finale: The Doctor's most feared enemies get together for a cup of tea, lock the Doctor in a cage, and then go home.

OK, I'm exaggerating... but you know, there's a shred of truth here. ;)

No offense tango or to anyone and I do understand, its too bad you and I cant just see eachother and chat about it all, its hard to express things this way (typing in a chat format I mean) , I love ya brother you know that and there is no doubt in my mind you love the good Doctor as do I , carry on :)

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I do love the show as I said, now having said that I am tiring of the , crack in the wall, who is who, who kills the doctor , who is the astronaut, who is river melody pond song, why is the doctor the most feared person in the universe, etc. and to be fair I miss the old Who too :)

Ole' moonie rules, as ever. As does everybody here. :)

Ole' moonie rules, as ever. As does everybody here. :)


:)

now dang it I want the series 6 music :)

Sorry, Tango, I did not intend my comment as an attack of any sort. I just meant I am enjoying it. I also know how much you love the show, and I am truly sorry you are not enjoying it. I don't see that as a jumping on.....

Wasn't talkin' about you, darlin'. :)

Sorry, Tango, I did not intend my comment as an attack of any sort. I just meant I am enjoying it. I also know how much you love the show, and I am truly sorry you are not enjoying it. I don't see that as a jumping on.....

I think tango understands us , we all love Doctor Who and as you know Ive been a Whovian for many many many moons it amazes me how well the show still does.
I would like to see BBC America start showing the old shows again , I have a few on dvd some Davison , T Baker , and McCoy. Just dont have the money to buy them all, anyway Allons - Y :)

I have all episodes as the vhs they came out itn. I updated a few as dvd, mostly the early Hartnell stuff. I watch them now and then.

I'm also a lifelong fan, been watching since the early 80's...and i've gotta say this series, especially since it's return from the break, has not been fantastic.

Matt Smith is absolutely superb, certainly the best Doctor since the '05 restart, and IMO one of the best ever. But this series has seemed a bit aimless. Feels like A Good Man Goes to War was the natural end-point for the series (the Doctor's 'death' aside), and since it's come back it just doesn't really know what it's doing.

I'm certainly gonna stick with it though. The show would have to get pretty damn dire before i ever considered jumping ship!

Unlike a lot of you I did not really get into Doctor Who until it's 2005 incarnation but I did catch some Baker era episodes when they used to air on PBS. I would love to go back to the very beginning and see each Doctor but alas there is no old Who on my satellite and the dvd's are really outrageously expensive.
Why the hell haven't the owners of the franchise compiled box sets of the old Who? The cheapest I've seen a single old episode on dvd is $25.00 and that's just too much for something that isn't even feature length. :(

I've been watching Dr Who on TV since about 1975. I was just the right age when Tom Baker started. I don't know whether it was because I was getting older, but the series seemed to be getting sillier as it aged. Costumes instead of clothes. Stories that were too self-aware. Suffering from lack of money, a producer who wanted to move on and a bitchy fanbase. Certainly wasn't "cool" to be a Dr Who fan by the mid-1980s. And it never really recovered from the "hiatus" during Colin Baker's run.

The RTD era was not perfect, but a big improvement on JNT's. Moffat/Smith haven't been a complete disaster, but more misses than hits so far IMO. Moffat (along with most of his other chosen writers) seems to take what he thinks would be a good scene (angel statues moving in the dark, boy in gasmask, flying shark, etc.) and then he invents a story to enable that scene to be realised. The problem is that most of the time the story makes very little sense. In the last story I found myself not only not caring about the guesting characters but even not caring about the regular TARDIS crew. Meanwhile the story was a cliche - as if it had been ripped off from an old story in a Dr Who annual - but was thin on providing any logical explanations or motivations.

I've not given up on Dr Who yet - but I do hope it improves soon!

I watched Dr Who from Episode One in 1963. I remember watching Episode Two the following week when Episode One was screened again because some part of Britain had not seen it due to a transmission problem. Episode Two coincided with my mother re-marrying. We only had a small terraced house, and I was in tears. My new stepfather was keen to know why I was crying, and I told him that it was nearly time for Dr Who, and as the wedding guests were using the living room and the parlour (where the tv was) I'd not get to watch it. Cheer up son he said, leave it to me, and he cleared out the parlour and told me I'd not be disturbed. In the 60's and 70's I was a solid viewer. By the time of the last 2 of the original doctors, I was more interested in drinking than in tv, but in its new incarnation I've been a solid viewer again. Overall I've probably not missed many episodes. My favourite one was the one that featured the Mechanoids fighting the Daleks in the old black & white days. As far as I know that is amongst the lost episodes.
Pity.

My favourite one was the one that featured the Mechanoids fighting the Daleks in the old black & white days. As far as I know that is amongst the lost episodes.
Pity.
Nope, that one's available. The Mechanoids only ever appeared in one story, it's called "The Chase" and it's available on DVD (along with the story right before it, "The Space Museum").

Nope, that one's available. The Mechanoids only ever appeared in one story, it's called "The Chase" and it's available on DVD (along with the story right before it, "The Space Museum").

Thanks for that.... now where is my Christmas List ?.

Would anyone happen to have a collection of just the theme songs?
Possibly extended versions?

Would anyone happen to have a collection of just the theme songs?
Possibly extended versions?

They're not songs; they're Theme Tunes or Theme Music... but not songs. That's a "pop" term.

Wow. This is really extensive.

They're not songs; they're Theme Tunes or Theme Music... but not songs. That's a "pop" term.

Can anyone spell anal? Hahahaha....just kidding!

Can anyone spell anal? Hahahaha....just kidding!

...lol.

That last episode of The Chase where Daleks fight Mechanoids is great - holds up really well!

Would anyone happen to have a collection of just the theme songs?
Possibly extended versions?

Yes, Madkalnod posted a collection HERE (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/94.html#post1734686).

Ahhhh....The Chase. Daleks screaming as they fall off of a pirate ship, cause they can't levitate. YET, navigate the ship's stairs easily enough.....

Also...

The Doctor and co AND Daleks on the Empire State Building....;D

ALSOooooo

This is Ian and Barbara'as last episode, I think. They get home to their own time and place, but NOT via TARDIS....

thoughts on The Wedding of River Song ??

thoughts on The Marriage of River Song ??

Wedding, not Marriage. And it's gonna be sooo coool!! Just go check some of the promo pics out there to get an idea. For example:

The patches, the box, the Silence. just wow!!

I really have no idea of what is going to happen. I can't wait just one week!!

[QUOTE=Clovie;1801279]Wedding, not Marriage. And it's gonna be sooo coool!! Just go check some of the promo pics out there to get an idea.


whoops sorry :)

Same thing, but Wedding is more in armony with the title :D

Sorry Clovie but I can't view the pics you posted and the link seems to be unavailable so...


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They deleted them or something. Nevermind, you just posted all the pics there.
I'm dying to see it!! But let's not forget about Closing Time tomorrow.

They deleted them or something. Nevermind, you just posted all the pics there.
I'm dying to see it!! But let's not forget about Closing Time tomorrow.

Yeah sorry...didn't mean to steal your thunder.

I had a thunder!? No way!!!
Nah, no problem at all. I just wanted that everyone saw them, and now you did :D

Now, I want a wallpaper for that image!!

I had a thunder!? No way!!!
Nah, no problem at all. I just wanted that everyone saw them, and now you did :D

Now, I want a wallpaper for that image!!

I've not seen any wallpapers from that episode yet but I am sure when there is one it will wind up on here...

Wallpapers | Doctor Who | BBC America (http://doctorwho.bbcamerica.com/extras-wallpaper/)

I can hear the Doctor now , eye patches are cool :)

I can hear the Doctor now , eye patches are cool :)

Or :http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297894_244736798905676_189611647751525_702054_7161 43559_n.jpg
I wear togas now. Togas are cool.
I have no idea why he's wearing that!

I'll wait for the wallpaper then, maybe after Closing Time.

Some other good sources for Who wallpapers... :)

Classic:
BBC - Doctor Who - Classic Series - Picture Galleries (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/gallery/)

9th Doctor:
BBC - Doctor Who - The Ninth Doctor - Character Guide (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/characters/?character=doctor9)

10th Doctor:
BBC - Doctor Who - The Tenth Doctor - Character Guide (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/characters/?character=doctor10)

11th Doctor:
BBC - Doctor Who - The Eleventh Doctor - Character Guide (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/characters/?character=doctor11)

Right, more confused than ever, now!

So we are down to the series 6 finale next week, and still no info about the series 6 ost.

I know that probably the reason why is because of them filming the 2011 christmas special and murray gold is busy creating awesome and wonderful music for it.

So i think any info of the series 6 ost will pop up around early december.

Right, more confused than ever, now!

About what tango?

SPOILERS BELOW:............................................ ..........................








ok we assume a young Melody Pond kills the Doctor in the episode The Impossible Astronaut, she escapes the suit and 6 months later regenerates to Mells Pond , goes and finds her parents Amy and Rory , lives with them learning all she can about the Doctor, later when grown follows them (her parents) to the corn field hijacks the TARDIS , tries to kill the Doctor but shoots the TARDIS instead , they crash in Hitlers office as he is taking power, Hitler kills Mells by mistake, she regenerates to Melody Pond aka River Song, poisons the Doctor and kills him again, she then gives the Doctor her remaining lives to save him , now just after she becomes a Doctor of Anthropology is taken by the Silence to Kill the Doctor again , oh yea clear as mud

and Who the blank blank is this creepy lady with the eye patch

there are of course some other anomolies (yes I cant spell) in this story but Im not even going to try to type , ok Moffet now What??

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back to the music , hehe, did anyone else notice the Cyberman music from season 2 in Closing Time

Well, "our" Doctor is now catching up with what Future Doctor was doing in The Impossible Astronaut; he has his Stetson, he's got his blue envelopes, and he's off to meet his doom. I'm not sure if I like the paradoxy-woxy thing going on, here; The Doctor goes to Utah because he knows he will die there. If somebody told me I would get run over by a bus in China tomorrow, I'm not sure what I'd do, but suffice to say I wouldn't immediately book plane tickets to Beijing and hang around outside the bus station waiting to get knocked over. I'd stay indoors tomorrow and get a takeaway pizza.

So, The Doctor goes off to die because he say his future self doing it. And, in The Impossible Astronaut, we explicitly see him dying. He knows he's going to die, and he invites all his friends to watch him. Why? Is it somehow important that lots of people see the Doctor's death? And herein lies the paradox: Current Doctor goes to Utah because he knows he will die there, because Amy essentially tells him as much when she mistakes him for Ganger Doctor. So, he realises that the only way he will ever know to go to Utah in the first place is if Amy witnesses the death and alerts The Doctor. But that's all crap; the only reason he goes there is because Amy told him he would die there, the only reason Amy knows is because he invited her there in the first place to see it take place... So if Amy never witnesses The Doctor's death (The Doctor doesn't bother inviting them to Utah; he merely shows up, gets shot by the Astronaut, and dies alone) then he will have absolutely no reason whatsoever to go there in the first damn place; The Doctor lives.

This timey-wimey stuff really, REALLY gives me a headache...!!!

It's a fixed point already, can't be changed. Also, Amy and company have to be there so they know they have to go to 1969 and stop The Silence and continuing the time stream so everything you said can happen. But there are more stuff that's going to happen: The invitations could be for something else; the whole time and space is stuck at 5:02 PM, that's why we see pterodactils and Churchill & Area 52. In the promo pics, the Doctor has a box for something.

An more stuff we don't know that we'll find out in a week. But let's not make theories 'cause: 1.- We may get dissapointed if what happens is not as clever as all the theories out there and 2.- So we can be enormously surprised when it happens.

Yes, Madkalnod posted a collection HERE (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/doctor-who-collection-all-soundtracks-72196/94.html#post1734686).

Truly awesome, thanks.

It's a fixed point already, can't be changed.

So it is... I still can't understand why, though - since effectively, the only reason it happened is because it happened.


Also, Amy and company have to be there so they know they have to go to 1969 and stop The Silence and continuing the time stream so everything you said can happen.

EXACTLY! So none of that would've happened either.


But let's not make theories

I really don't think we have enough on which to base a theory. Everything is complicated, has multiple possibilities, and worse still, in order to understand any of it, we effectively have to think backwards!

I think it's safe to say whatever happens it will be a massive surprise... which is, of course, just the way it should be. :)

ok we assume a young Melody Pond kills the Doctor in the episode The Impossible Astronaut, she escapes the suit and 6 months later regenerates to Mells Pond , goes and finds her parents Amy and Rory , lives with them learning all she can about the Doctor, later when grown follows them (her parents) to the corn field hijacks the TARDIS , tries to kill the Doctor but shoots the TARDIS instead , they crash in Hitlers office as he is taking power, Hitler kills Mells by mistake, she regenerates to Melody Pond aka River Song, poisons the Doctor and kills him again, she then gives the Doctor her remaining lives to save him , now just after she becomes a Doctor of Anthropology Archaeology is taken by the Silence to Kill the Doctor again , oh yea clear as mud
I assumed that it was a young Melody Pond, but it could be Doctor River Song. It's possible that Melody escaped from the astronaut suit in the first episode and ran to find her parents. Of course, the ending of the last episode made it seem like she's been manipulated all that time.

Moffet likes to do all this kind of stuff which drives us all Nuts but I think in the end it will all work out ..............................I think ;)

and in a interview with Alex Kingston she says not giving it all away that everything comes togather in the next episode and all the River secrets will be revealed, even one about the Doctor so we shall see :)

OMG THEY'RE REVEALING THE DOCTOR'S NAME!!!

Well, maybe not :P

I'm not personally worried on the OST... It usually hits november, so I'd be worried if by mid October pre-orders weren't yet possible.

Are there any Releases of Doctor Who at the Proms 2008 by Murray Gold? Loved the Concert

Here is something fun...Doctor Who characters drawn in Matt Groening style who created The Simpsons and Futurama.


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Ehh... Since when does Silva Screen allow for FLAC downloads!? O_O

awesome groening-esque pictures

I have a poll , how many here think the Tennant/Smith regeneration was the best in the shows history or rank it And the episodes of The End of Time , Ill tell you my reasons later.

and to make this music oriented , Murray Golds Music Rules!!

awesome groening-esque pictures

I am glad somebody liked them. :) I also have a nice collection of high resolution promo photos from series 1-6 as well as some behind the scenes photos if anyone is interested. :D

Verrrrrrrrrrry cute... Unfortunately, it only confirms my unhealthy love of Donna. Martha looks like a man. :/

Verrrrrrrrrrry cute... Unfortunately, it only confirms my unhealthy love of Donna.
You too, huh? There's just something about her... (besides the fact that she reminds me of an acquaintance of mine...)

Wow you have a great collection of Doctor Who

The one annomaly that gets me in the chronology of Melody/River is this... we see her in 1969 regenerating after she escaped. We have presumed she changed into Mells... but here's where that that thread crumbles... Mells is a young girl growing alongside Amy and Rory, somewhere in the late 90's. How did she stay young for nearly 30 years? I know the Doctor basically looks the same after 200 years but he's a Time Lord while Melody is a "Time Vortex Infused Human" or whatever. Was she captured again by Kovarian and the Silence and taken to the 90's. Did she actually regenerate into someone else, grow for those 30 years and the regenerate into Mells, becoming younger in the process? Any theories, anyone?

As for the rest, time paradoxes and all, i let them pass by for the sake of having fun seing The Doctor wigle his way out of these situations. But it's these apparently small insignificant things that bother me. One thing we can be sure. He'll still be alive when the next episode ends. If he wasn't the series would be over and a Xmas Special without The Doctor wouldn't be that great... XDDD

OK, back on topic, now. :D

heres another one , hehe, as a young girl in the space suit she Kills the Doctor, after she regenerates into Melody River Song Pond from Mells she poisons the Doctor killing him , she then brings him back using her remaining "lives" as a Timelordish person.
now is she going to kill him a third time :)

She wasn't in the space as a young girl to kill him. That was in 1969 and the Doctor was killed in 2011. River shoots the Doctor on the shores of Lake Silencio, not young Melody. She was in the suit for life support or something.