My dear people of ffshrine!
Commons and nobles,

Let us try, for a change, to be civilzed. Let's have a go at it. Take a stock of yourself. Are you civilized?

If you can answer this question with YES, we are having a deal. If your answer is NO, then you need to sit down and talk to your son about it.

I have future plans to announce to those of you who are primarily living in the 24th century Star Trek universe. And bring yer friends, because there's plenty of booty to share.

I, Lord Fuckingham, have been sitting on two smashing, previously undisclosed recording sessions for the past month or so. I'm indebted to Dr. Leakey, who sold them to me. All for a nice little sum of 1.700 Pound sterling. Honour to whom honour is due.

To cut a long story short, shall I finally post those frigging STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS sessions? And what do you offer me in return? I don't give them away, just for the fun of it.

Make your offers HERE.

I'll send PM to the most attractive offer.

If you have any comments or questions, I'll be happy to fuck you.

signed,
Fuckingham


I for one, don't call that truly civilize, but seen to be a man of the eugenic war !

As Picard of the Prime Universe said : "The economics of the future are somewhat different."

And if this man is truly noble, answer that remark of Picard First Contact : "We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity"

Finaly, the language is not of a man that live under the United Federation of Planets, seem more like a Jem'hadar for the directness !

My dear people of ffshrine!
Commons and nobles,

Let us try, for a change, to be civilzed. Let's have a go at it. Take a stock of yourself. Are you civilized?

If you can answer this question with YES, we are having a deal. If your answer is NO, then you need to sit down and talk to your son about it.

I have future plans to announce to those of you who are primarily living in the 24th century Star Trek universe. And bring yer friends, because there's plenty of booty to share.

I, Lord Fuckingham, have been sitting on two smashing, previously undisclosed recording sessions for the past month or so. I'm indebted to Dr. Leakey, who sold them to me. All for a nice little sum of 1.700 Pound sterling. Honour to whom honour is due.

To cut a long story short, shall I finally post those frigging STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS sessions? And what do you offer me in return? I don't give them away, just for the fun of it.

Make your offers HERE.

I'll send PM to the most attractive offer.

If you have any comments or questions, I'll be happy to fuck you.

signed,
Fuckingham



I would gladly offer 1000 Fuckaroos

@Lord Fuckingham: I pay you with the uncountable numbers of Recording Sessions and Promo Scores fine ffshriners have posted on this site.

Who is Dr. Leakey?

I don't trade with subaltern ranks.

@Lord Fuckingham

Everything I have that's of note I've either gotten from here, or can be readily found here. And I certainly don't have anything in the way of monetary value right now. But I sincerely hope the Into Darkness sessions see the light of day, as that was the best film score of the past decade, in my humble opinion. So all I can really offer at the moment is my eternal gratitude and a hearty Fuck You in advance!

For serious, though, that complete score NEEDS to get out at some point.

I'm back...You didn't notice me gone? The string on my string and cans got too frayed to get full signal, and now with new string AND cans (AKA phone wires and modem), I can surf again. Funny thing is that with a 56K modem, I'm getting 115.2Kbps. HOW CAN i GET MORE THAN DOUBLE? I'm as confused as a Tribble on a Klingon planet.

Im a bit behind on the mission log, but i really like the format! The host's are great and its a whole lot of fun.


Yeah, they're good - I like the way they unveil their take on the morality and philosophy of each episode and are funny with it. I've been sort of darting about, just listening to the ones that refer the eps I've watched recently (and they're only halfway through season 2 of TOS). I'm kinda looking forward to seeing what they make of season 3. It may be hokey in places but there are episodes there that I love too!

Hey, I wanted to say, Amanda - I LOVE your model collection. I have a few of those die-cast Eagles too - the lab pod one and the freighter also. Not having the time to make models anymore (I have a half-built TOS Enterprise that I've been working on for years), I snapped these up when they came out - beautiful things.

Lord F, I have a small supply of Venus Drugs. Harry Mudd assured me they are authentic and potent.

Guillaume

I would offer a more....personal approach, but alas, as I said I despise the score. BUT, not as much as I despise the vileness that is Man of Steel. I saw it in theater, and I gotta tell you, I have never wished SO hard for a frickin' mute button....:( :( :(

I offer 10,000 quatluus! :)


Seriously, recording sessions that were redone from the 2009 TREK movie? I know that there is new music in there SOMEWHERE, but I'd be hard pressed to locate it and point it out to someone.

Would be better to just upload it somewhere, and share it here, to get all the good karma you can get in this life! It will come out sooner or later, and I'm pretty sure that nobody is going to give a wet slap weather they get it or not.

Just my two cents worth.

AND... regarding the "man of steel"..... I'm right there with ya, Amanda! :)

William

It made my ears sooooo sad. :(

MAN, Scotty, I really HATE it when some of my ships fly off all on their own! :(

I remember building the B-57 "Stratofortress" when I was only 4 or 5 years old, and when we moved, it was left behind. I feel like lying down on my bed and yelling out "ROSEBUD"!! hehehehehe :)

William

LOL I understand completely!

My parents got me for Christmas (when I was 7 and my dad being in the Navy) the USS Saratoga (CV-3) I spent all day putting that model together and painting her! I was so proud to display her in my bedroom. She stayed in my room for several years, until my little brother decided to take her and put her in our swimming pool and cannon balling her and sending her to the bottom! where she set until I got home from school, by then all the decals had came off and the glue came lose, by then she was a total loss! broke my heart!! from then on any models I worked on I put up high so little hands could not get to them. "ROSEBUD"!!! is right...:)

Scott

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I'm back...You didn't notice me gone? The string on my string and cans got too frayed to get full signal, and now with new string AND cans (AKA phone wires and modem), I can surf again. Funny thing is that with a 56K modem, I'm getting 115.2Kbps. HOW CAN i GET MORE THAN DOUBLE? I'm as confused as a Tribble on a Klingon planet.

We noticed!! Welcome Back :)

It isn't connecting at 115k. It is impossible for a dial-up modem to get more than 52 Kbps. What you are seeing is some kind of Windows error thing. When you set up your modem, you can set the maximum speed. Yours is probably set at 115k, and when Windows connects you, it displays your max setting rather than actual throughput. You're probably getting between 33.6 - 52Kbps, something like that. If you can't get DSL or Cable where you live, your pretty much SOL! unless you want to pay through the nose for Satellite. Call your ISP and ask them if they are updated with the v92 standard! if they can't answer your question or don't even know what the v92 standard is then they are not and your only hope is DSL, Cable or Satellite....wish I had better news for you my friend.

Scott

Scotty, he (your Brother) didn't shoot at it with a BB Gun?

LOL I understand completely!

My parents got me for Christmas (when I was 7 and my dad being in the Navy) the USS Saratoga (CV-3) I spent all day putting that model together and painting her! I was so proud to display her in my bedroom. She stayed in my room for several years, until my little brother decided to take her and put her in our swimming pool and cannon balling her and sending her to the bottom! where she set until I got home from school, by then all the decals had came off and the glue came lose, by then she was a total loss! broke my heart!! from then on any models I worked on I put up high so little hands could not get to them. "ROSEBUD"!!! is right...:)

Scott



DUDE!!! How strange, that is the EXACT same thing that Rod (junior) did with the 3 foot TOS Enterprise! Seriously! He took it into the pool, and jumped off the diving board onto the model. Since it was mostly wood, it floated. He broke the nacelles off first, then smashed the secondary hull from the main saucer. When I found out what he had done, about 5 years after the fact, I saw him at Majel's table at the convention, and he laughed about it, and told me the whole story. He was only 10 at that time, so he was only 5 when he destroyed the biggest piece of TV history in Scifi books! When I spoke with him, when he was 18-19 years old, still at Majels table, he then totally denied that the situation had happened at all!!!

Most illogical!

William

RE: INTO DARKNESS sessions:

What can I give to trade for this?

Quoting Jean Luc Picard, "if you just post it, you will have my gratitude."

Here is my model destruction story. When I was a kid, my Parents smoked, and I too an empty carton and built my first paper model from scratch, the Galileo 7.
I had it hung from the ceiling on threads, and next to my Brother's Huey Copter model. He got mad at me for some reason, crushed it, and then I attacked the Huey. It was messy.

Lord Fuckingham, is that what I stepped in....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/throwup.gif

Scott, I can get DSL, and it is on my to do list, just no ready with the other PC I'm working on.

A little late, but the models and diecast vehicles.....I'm envious!

I saw the trailer of Man of Steel at Wal-Mart, crap, not worth watching, even after someone, unknown to me, left a ticket in the mail box.[COLOR="Silver"]

Here is my model destruction story. When I was a kid, my Parents smoked, and I too an empty carton and built my first paper model from scratch, the Galileo 7.
I had it hung from the ceiling on threads, and next to my Brother's Huey Copter model. He got mad at me for some reason, crushed it, and then I attacked the Huey. It was messy.

Lord Fuckingham, is that what I stepped in....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/throwup.gif

Scott, I can get DSL, and it is on my to do list, just no ready with the other PC I'm working on.

A little late, but the models and diecast vehicles.....I'm envious!

I saw the trailer of Man of Steel at Wal-Mart, crap, not worth watching, even after someone, unknown to me, left a ticket in the mail box.[COLOR="Silver"]

AZ, Man of Steel is definitely different than previous film or televised versions, but I found it decent enough. I have some quibbles, but no deal breakers. It is best on a big screen. It is fx heavy throughout, and some dark scenes (tone and lighting wise). I am not sure little ones would enjoy it though. But maybe. The fights ARE fairly video game/animation reminiscent.

Sure the effects look good to me, but little changes, like the costume, I don't like. Like Spiderman, the costume was wrong to me. Would I watch it? Maybe on DVD.
The last Superman movie, Superman Returns, was OK, but I just felt it was lacking. Maybe I'm just getting too http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif, but don't tell me if I am, you might hurt my feelings.:)

In the context of the film the costume, and changes to it, make sense. :)

Into Darkness recording sessions!
Make your bids, please.
Star Trek Into Darkness recording sessions!
Up on auction, only 48 hours.
Make your bids, please!

Into Darkness recording sessions!
Make your bids, please.
Star Trek Into Darkness recording sessions!
Up on auction, only 48 hours.
Make your bids, please!

You are breaking several cardinal rules. You may not offer trades nor try to sell anything on the open forum. Post reported.

I'm trading sessions. I don't "sell" anything. It's a square deal. No reason to drive you up the wall, Amanda. Why can't you just relax? I know menopause is to blame for many things, but sometimes it still surprises me :)

Who is Dr. Leakey?




Methinks he's some obscure philosopher, and most likely incontinent.

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Into Darkness recording sessions!
Make your bids, please.
Star Trek Into Darkness recording sessions!
Up on auction, only 48 hours.
Make your bids, please!



*yawn*


Are you still here, Lord Douchebag?


I'll bid 100 Federation credits, honored throughout the galaxy (except Tatooine).


So whaddaya say, Lord Penisbreath, we got a deal?

I want to talk to Dr Leakey, first.

How much will you offer him, Spoliansky? A dollar?



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Way wrong answer. From someone who hasn't shared anything of interest. From someone, in fact, who hasn't shared anything at all.

Before you run you must learn to walk.




Methinks he's some obscure philosopher, and most likely incontinent.

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*yawn*


Are you still here, Lord Douchebag?


I'll bid 100 Federation credits, honored throughout the galaxy (except Tatooine).


So whaddaya say, Lord Penisbreath, we got a deal?

Why don't you just post the sessions for all to enjoy? Why must everyone trade rare items and withhold great music from those who want it?

Scotty, he (your Brother) didn't shoot at it with a BB Gun?

No, we was not allowed to have one at that time! the BB gun came later and he used it on his own model's (thank God)

Scott

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DUDE!!! How strange, that is the EXACT same thing that Rod (junior) did with the 3 foot TOS Enterprise! Seriously! He took it into the pool, and jumped off the diving board onto the model. Since it was mostly wood, it floated. He broke the nacelles off first, then smashed the secondary hull from the main saucer. When I found out what he had done, about 5 years after the fact, I saw him at Majel's table at the convention, and he laughed about it, and told me the whole story. He was only 10 at that time, so he was only 5 when he destroyed the biggest piece of TV history in Scifi books! When I spoke with him, when he was 18-19 years old, still at Majels table, he then totally denied that the situation had happened at all!!!

Most illogical!

William

Good thing he was not my kid! He would not have been able to sit down for a week! so much for parental supervision. I bet he still denies what he did!!! and will until he is a old man.

Scott

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Here is my model destruction story. When I was a kid, my Parents smoked, and I too an empty carton and built my first paper model from scratch, the Galileo 7.
I had it hung from the ceiling on threads, and next to my Brother's Huey Copter model. He got mad at me for some reason, crushed it, and then I attacked the Huey. It was messy.

Lord Fuckingham, is that what I stepped in....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/throwup.gif

Scott, I can get DSL, and it is on my to do list, just no ready with the other PC I'm working on.

A little late, but the models and diecast vehicles.....I'm envious!

I saw the trailer of Man of Steel at Wal-Mart, crap, not worth watching, even after someone, unknown to me, left a ticket in the mail box.[COLOR="Silver"]

Okay! your going to be shocked when you go to DSL! the speed will blow your mind :)

Scott

Yeah, that would be pretty embarrassing to admit. and stupid to have something like that where he could just take it. (Like with my son with my models) I didn't see the value in them as i would have an original though.

I'm trading sessions. I don't "sell" anything. It's a square deal. No reason to drive you up the wall, Amanda. Why can't you just relax? I know menopause is to blame for many things, but sometimes it still surprises me :)

There is no reason to insult Amanda, so do us all a favor and take your deal some where else! we prefer respect and kindness over rudeness. "So Say We All"

Scott

In the context of the film the costume, and changes to it, make sense. :)

What bothers me is the change to such an iconic symbol as his costume, but as you say that it makes sense, I will see when I watch the DVD.

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Scott, you say DSL will blow my mind? Too late, mind blown, but,numbed on model glue.;)

Trading for Into Darkness?

I DON'T THINK SO!

I'm trading sessions. I don't "sell" anything. It's a square deal. No reason to drive you up the wall, Amanda. Why can't you just relax? I know menopause is to blame for many things, but sometimes it still surprises me :)

Post offensive and reported. I am merely pointing out to you that by trying to trade in the open you are breaking forum rules. Just a statement.

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Why don't you just post the sessions for all to enjoy? Why must everyone trade rare items and withhold great music from those who want it?

It sucks, but it is much more complex than that for traders. Into Darkness sessions would be a hot item right now. Items like that are held back because the person that has them is looking to use them as leverage to try and get other items they want. If he posts it openly, he will lose the ability to get anything in return. He may also burn his contact, lessening his chance to get similar items in the future. Once an item has saturated the trading market, it tends to get posted here. Some of the recent "leaks" have caused trouble for this reason. The leaks were still considered rare. Anyone trying to use them as trade has now lost that leverage. They are essentially screwed. On top of that, the original source (scorpranos in this case) got seriously burned. So, there is a likely loss of future items getting posted as easily.

Now, I severely dislike this system, as do many of you. It is frustrating when someone openly posts on the forum that they have a thing, but will not share unless they get something equal in return. Unfortunately this is just the reality of the situation, and it is not going to change to suit our sensibilities. Admin and the mods find this behavior "silly" at best, and have repeatedly stated such open trading is not allowed here. Menopause notwithstanding.

@Lord Fuckingham

You can't trade here, share what you have or don't say you have it.

Also, watch your behavior in future, i've had a lot of reported posts against you and your attitude towards people, so i'm giving you one chance to change this.

For the modelers here, or for all TOS fans, this from Round 2/AMT web site. If you notice that they misspelled Uhura's and Chekov's names and they said accuracy.:)



STAR TREK� BRIDGE SET

Item No: AMT808
Release Date: July 2013
The set of the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 became memorable as the primary location for many of Star Trek's best episodes. The model kit set originally released by AMT in the mid seventies supplied modelers with an opportunity to build a set of their own. The kit is now re-released with the key addition of new figures and added details. Spock's and Sulu's scopes are present for the first time in the set. Parts to build six figures are included with options to build Kirk, Spock, Bones, Sulu, Checkov, Ohura, Scotty or other "red shirts". Additional wall sections are also included for the first time to allow the set to be built completely in the round. New updated decals are included for accurate displays.

Scale: 1/32
Skill Level: 2 (ages 10 and up)
Glue assembly, paint required
New figures and additional wall sections
10 character choices to build 6 figures
Sulu & Spock scope parts included
Build the COMPLETE bridge-in the round!
New updated decals for accuracy

Yea, I've seen that. Not for me, no room. I still have the newer release of the 1/350 Enterprise refit in the box. I'd get the 1/350 original one too, but it is over 100 dollars these days. :( They are also doing a 1/350 scale K'Tinga class cruiser from the first film. Those who do not know the scales of how big these are, the refit is over 3 feet long assembled, and a foot and a half wide at the saucer. It's the size of a large dinner plate, and it is **gorgeous**. I had built one before, the original release, and had given it away. This newer release has much more detail, but supplies are expensive, so for now it sits and awaits Goddess' touch. :awsm:

Room? What that? Big models take up too much room too fast. I should stick with 1/2500 scale, the TOS 1701 is 3 inches long.
I do look forward to seeing what the Goddess' touch can do for the refit re-release.

Star Trek Into Darkness recording sessions.
Up on auction, only 24 hours. Bids, please!

Star Trek Into Darkness recording sessions.
Up on auction, only 24 hours. Bids, please!

Post reported.

Post reported.


I see this poster has now been banned ... can do without people like that such a sad individual.

I see this poster has now been banned ... can do without people like that such a sad individual.

Yeah... Jesse had warned him about trading.

I see this poster has now been banned ... can do without people like that such a sad individual.

No. Just persistent. He is trying to profit either monetarily or by equal trade. His call. But he was told it was not the norm here, ad he chose to persist. Mods rarely do perma bans, so there s a chance he can come back. I don't really have an opinion via the trade/sell thing. It is just a fact we have to accept. But this is not the place to do the business at. At least not openly.

What bothers me is the change to such an iconic symbol as his costume, but as you say that it makes sense, I will see when I watch the DVD.

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Scott, you say DSL will blow my mind? Too late, mind blown, but,numbed on model glue.;)

Trading for Into Darkness?

I DON'T THINK SO!

When Glue would eat your brain!! those were the days, and kids walked around with a sock spray painted and silver face paint was only used by sniffers :)

Scott

DANG IT! I'm late, again. I was going to offer Lord Fuckingham 100 Tribble pelts to....GO AWAY! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/wave.gif

Fake ones of course! They are an endangered species, after the Great Tribble Hunt by the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif!

Seriously, recording sessions that were redone from the 2009 TREK movie? I know that there is new music in there SOMEWHERE, but I'd be hard pressed to locate it and point it out to someone.

William

So... sort of like Star Trek III? ZING!

YES!!! Exactly! I always hated when someone, even Horner, when the composer is too lazy to actually write new themes for a new movie, and just recycle something done before, like "Cocoon 2", and many, MANY other films! Just shows that the composer is LAZY! Even John Williams has done that. Jerry Goldsmith didn't do that, but he would take a theme, and "variations on a theme" to DEATH in a movie, but always with style and inovation! Every composer has done something that the fans will say "why did he (she) do that?" It's all a matter of perspective, money vs motivation to do cutting edge music! Jerry Goldsmith had gone overboard on a couple of films, with new and imaginative cutting edge music ideas that just didn't work, and the whole film was much poorer for it. Would have been better to stick to a more traditional music style, but he had to try, and see what developed after the smoke cleared. He's only human, you know, hehehehehehe :)

Guess it's fairly obvious how I feel about Goldsmith, huh? :)

William

William, I agree about the lazy composers, like James Horner, Laurence Rosenthal and Leonard Rosenman. I can pick what movies the scores came from in whatever score I am listening to. I have noticed John Williams, but, not as bad and besides, one of my most favorites. Now Jerry Goldsmith, to me he is the man, whether over the top, or not, very exciting scores to listen to.

I suppose with Williams, you are citing Home Alone 2, and Potter 2?

YES!!! Exactly! I always hated when someone, even Horner, when the composer is too lazy to actually write new themes for a new movie, and just recycle something done before, like "Cocoon 2", and many, MANY other films! Just shows that the composer is LAZY! Even John Williams has done that. Jerry Goldsmith didn't do that, but he would take a theme, and "variations on a theme" to DEATH in a movie, but always with style and inovation! Every composer has done something that the fans will say "why did he (she) do that?" It's all a matter of perspective, money vs motivation to do cutting edge music! Jerry Goldsmith had gone overboard on a couple of films, with new and imaginative cutting edge music ideas that just didn't work, and the whole film was much poorer for it. Would have been better to stick to a more traditional music style, but he had to try, and see what developed after the smoke cleared. He's only human, you know, hehehehehehe :)

Guess it's fairly obvious how I feel about Goldsmith, huh? :)

William

I agree with you William! Goldsmith was differently one of the most gifted composer's in the world! a true geniuses, right up there with the great masters.

Scott

Post reported.

I could care less if I get these recording sessions today or in a year.
When it comes down to it, you have two choices in this world:
Love or Selfishness. Love gives freely, selfishness, to the very least,
seeks advantages. And this is not some bullshit religious stance,
because I'm an agnostic. All i can say, Mr. Fuckingham, life will
have quiet a few surprises for you, like for the rest of us,
i suggest an attitude adjustment, if one day you rather die smiling.
All that "taking advantage" ever did to people, is making them
age faster. I have a "good heart" and look about 15 years younger.
Just sayin'

To all who paruse this board:

May you all have a very safe and sane 4th of July! Take care, my friends! :)

William

Happy July 4 to all a youse!

Fffffffuuuuuuuuuucccckk

We're back in business!

Have a safe and enjoyable 4th everyone!:)

This message is hidden because Lord Fuckingham is on your ignore list.

Peace at last.

Happy 4th to those in the States! and be safe.

To all who paruse this board:

May you all have a very safe and sane 4th of July! Take care, my friends! :)

William
Sane!? :D

You obviously have a story to tell, mate. ;)

Some things are best not known. Sanity is overrated. If I was sane, then I would be called normal, and then my friends in my private world would not talk to me.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/2-1.gif

Thanks for the sessions, Fuckingham. They're a blast!

@ Spoliansky, please share your acquisition, if you have the royal fornicator's permission...

Some things are best not known. Sanity is overrated. If I was sane, then I would be called normal, and then my friends in my private world would not talk to me.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/2-1.gif

AZ You look perfectly sane to me. Sorry for the insult.

Lord F/Spoilansky, would love to hear at least some of it... :)

My pleasure. You paid. You can do what you like.


Thanks for the sessions, Fuckingham. They're a blast!

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Complete Score Project
"Our Man Bashir"
Jay Chattaway



This is Altovar's DVD rip -- all glory goes to him. Send him a PM to get access to his excellent blog. He's been uploading DVD rips from TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT!

http://www.rapidshare.com/files/441329090/dsnourbaschat.rar

I'm really only exploring this thread properly for the first time, and there are some gems where the link's long-dead. I don't think I have much in the way of unique ST oddities to offer, but it'd be HUGELY appreciated if anyone was kind enough to re-post this.

I'm really only exploring this thread properly for the first time, and there are some gems where the link's long-dead. I don't think I have much in the way of unique ST oddities to offer, but it'd be HUGELY appreciated if anyone was kind enough to re-post this.

Here is the file re-uploaded in a password protected shell...

Zippyshare.com - sec.env.d482.rar (http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/62151125/file.html)

Password: Orion999

Just rewatched Charlie X, for the first time on BluRay. Two observations:

1) When Charlie meets Janice Rand the second time (in the corridors) you can hear a thumping sound effect commonly known from some areas of the ship. It's actually pretty loud in this scene. Call it Charlies pressuring desire or Janice Rand's entrapment, the sound effects are DEFINATELY used to highlight the scene. What masterful, masterful brains there were behind this show!!!!

2) On the bridge Captain gets kicked to the floor. We are pretty close to him. I always assumed the bridge's gray floor was some kind of PVC or some other flat, artificial material. But you can see the texture, this is actual carpet!

Bonus observation :D

3) I feel sorry for Charlie, but anyways: Michael Myers go home!

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I agree with you William! Goldsmith was differently one of the most gifted composer's in the world! a true geniuses, right up there with the great masters.

Scott

A hyperbole, but than you need that if wanna do Goldsmith justice :D

olafolaf, you now get to explore TOS some more, enjoy! I still find more each time I watch the episodes, that is the fun of it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

Hey, I have another Penisrock photo -- it just occured to me a few days ago, so I made it:

Here is the file re-uploaded in a password protected shell...

Zippyshare.com - sec.env.d482.rar (http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/62151125/file.html)

Password: Orion999

Thanks so much! Really looking forward to listening to this! :)

Mr. Leslie was playing dead.;).....really.....NOT! Since a week passed on TV between episodes, I guessed we were to forget...


... Galloway got wasted, but he at least had the decency to comeback as Johnson.


... I still find more each time I watch the episodes, that is the fun of it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

Ahem. Cock-up update. Galloway who came back as Johnson, came back as "Galoway" in Turnabout Intruder. I'm getting the impression the filmmakers weren't concerned with continuity in the space-time-continuum.

He's dead, Jim.

Bones, he moved.

Jim, he's not dead, but I can fix that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif

Jim, I'm positive he is dead now.

Into Darkness Sessions????

Say Guys Has anyone got these New Soundtracks or have a or Loaded a RAR or Zip file of it?

Music From The Star Trek Saga ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/06/music-from-the-star-trek-saga-new-release-information-track-previews/)
Star Trek: Music from the Video Games ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/07/star-trek-music-from-the-video-games-new-release-information-track-previews/)

I'd Like to be able to get My Hands on these. :D

Into Darkness Sessions????

Not likely to happen. Don't expect it.

I'm really only exploring this thread properly for the first time, and there are some gems where the link's long-dead. I don't think I have much in the way of unique ST oddities to offer, but it'd be HUGELY appreciated if anyone was kind enough to re-post this.

You are not alone in this endeavor. I'm looking for Lost Music here on this thread, too. So don't feel ashamed or embarrassed about it. (*Hugs*)

Whatever the outcome regarding INTO DARKNESS sessions, lets do it via PM since this is another VARESE owned set. Or at the very least, a separate thread.

Whatever the outcome regarding INTO DARKNESS sessions, lets do it via PM since this is another VARESE owned set. Or at the very least, a separate thread.

This thread has been up for a while - Thread 134008

I think about buying those but I still hesitate because I dont know yet if these are real orchestral recordings or just made with samples (although if they are the programming is amazingly good).

Say Guys Has anyone got these New Soundtracks or have a or Loaded a RAR or Zip file of it?

Music From The Star Trek Saga ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/06/music-from-the-star-trek-saga-new-release-information-track-previews/)
Star Trek: Music from the Video Games ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/07/star-trek-music-from-the-video-games-new-release-information-track-previews/)

I'd Like to be able to get My Hands on these. :D

I think about buying those but I still hesitate because I dont know yet if these are real orchestral recordings or just made with samples (although if they are the programming is amazingly good).

I'd like to know if these STID sessions are real.

You are not alone in this endeavor. I'm looking for Lost Music here on this thread, too. So don't feel ashamed or embarrassed about it. (*Hugs*)

Perhaps, but I'd like to think I helped nudge that quest along to some degree

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This thread has been up for a while - Thread 134008

That is a request thread, where the poster is asking for them, in the request forum. (SHOCKING, I know) There are no dl links for it there, and no one seems to know any more than we do here. Well, at least not they'll discuss openly, anyway.

**No, I know nothing. Nor do I care to as these two new scores just don't really speak to me much.

is ken manthei's score for star trek: online hiding anywhere in this gargantuan thread?

is ken manthei's score for star trek: online hiding anywhere in this gargantuan thread?

Page 89.

... and it's Kevin, not ken.

thanks bishty. much appreciated. and my apologies to kevin. he seems pretty damned talented. and thank you mino for somehow gathering all that together. could not have been easy.

Say Guys Has anyone got these New Soundtracks or have a or Loaded a RAR or Zip file of it?

Music From The Star Trek Saga ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/06/music-from-the-star-trek-saga-new-release-information-track-previews/)
Star Trek: Music from the Video Games ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/07/star-trek-music-from-the-video-games-new-release-information-track-previews/)

I'd Like to be able to get My Hands on these. :D


The inclusion of the Animated Series theme is bound to please a multitude of fans who have been hoping to get the music from the short lived TOS spinoff for a long time. As we've previously covered in interviews, the original music is thought to be lost but thankfully that hasn't stopped BSX and Hauser producing a brand new recording of the catchy theme.

Pfff! They could always pluck most of it out of isolated episode music tracks.
But they're lazy, soooo...

Well, ok, they're likely actually avoiding to release it because they'd have to clear ton of rights as the music was used in other Filmation stuff that aren't owned by Paramount.

Due tentively August 6 from GNP Records, the complete score to "Star Trek: Insurrection", as posted on their Facebook yesterday.

Due tentively August 6 from GNP Records, the complete score to "Star Trek: Insurrection", as posted on their Facebook yesterday.

I got the sessions for that!!! Anybody interested to trade for them????

... just kidding... :)

I got the sessions for that!!! Anybody interested to trade for them????

... just kidding... :)



I'll trade you for this cape! http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-049.gif

I got the sessions for that!!! Anybody interested to trade for them????

... just kidding... :)

Come on now! I have 1,000,000 Tribbles and to trade.

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I listened to the sample of the TAS theme that is on the Music From The Star Trek Saga album.....no impressed.

Come on now! I have 1,000,000 Tribbles and to trade.

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I listened to the sample of the TAS theme that is on the Music From The Star Trek Saga album.....no impressed.

I have the Star Trek Saga and your not kidding about not being impressed! at lest Music From The Star Trek Video Games is better because it uses some of the original music from the games, then a total recreation! but what do we expect for $8.00 for each set. Just my input....

Scott

"Star Trek: Insurrection" for pre-order:
Star Trek: Insurrection - Expanded Collector's Edition, GNP Crescendo Records (http://store.gnpcrescendo.com/new/product_info.php?products_id=231)



Additional details:


Hi Gang - hope everyone loves the new Insurrection CD from Crescendo. Just a heads up to KEEP your original CD for the album program, and the few album edits/takes that are unique to that disc�it's still in print and sounds great, which is why the new disc is a 1 (and not 2) disc set. The new album is a unique program of the score as heard in the film, plus some extras.

"Star Trek: Insurrection" for pre-order:
Star Trek: Insurrection - Expanded Collector's Edition, GNP Crescendo Records (http://store.gnpcrescendo.com/new/product_info.php?products_id=231)


The Bootlegs still has More Music than this new release, unfortunately. :'( But I still would like to get this it for the alternate takes & My Star Trek Music collection, though. :)

"Star Trek: Insurrection" for pre-order:
Star Trek: Insurrection - Expanded Collector's Edition, GNP Crescendo Records (http://store.gnpcrescendo.com/new/product_info.php?products_id=231)



Additional details:


Alright!!! I still have the 1998 release. I wonder what the track names are?

Alright!!! I still have the 1998 release. I wonder what the track names are?


1. Ba'ku Village 6:53
2. Out of Orbit / Take Us In 1:44
3. Come Out 2:34
4. In Custody 1:14
5. Warp Capability / The Planet / Children's Story 2:33
6. The Holodeck 4:35
7. How Old Are You / New Sight 6:14
8. Lost Ship / Prepare the Ship 2:39
9. As Long as We Can 1:40
10. Not Functioning / Send Your Ships 2:55
11. Growing Up / Wild Flowers / Photon Torpedo 2:55
12. The Drones Attack 4:15
13. The Riker Maneuver 3:15
14. Stay With Me 1:48
15. The Same Race 2:50
16. The Collector 1:10
17. No Threat 4:18
18. Tractor Beam 0:38
19. The Healing Process (revised) 5:04
20. The Healing Process (original version) 7:17
21. End Credits 5:30

Total Time:
71:37

Bonus Tracks

22. Ba'ku Village (alternate ending) 3:53
23. The Holodeck (alternate opening) 1:12
24. Growing Up (alternate) 1:21
25. Tractor Beam (alternate) 0:38
Total Time: 7:25
Total Disc Time: 79:02

Can I get a re-upload of "Music from Star Trek Online" please?

Can I get a re-upload of "Music from Star Trek Online" please?

Why ?. It's ACTIVE on Page 89.

So I was watching the 1986 animated version of Transformers: The Movie, and lo and behold, after watching an early theatrical trailer that I found online, the music from the trailer is mostly from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. I'm very curious if this was actually licensed or how this came about. The trailer is available at the following link although it is extremely poor quality.

Transformers - The Movie 1986 - trailer with MASSIVE spoiler - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3j7yYJbKY)

I knew Lenny and Orson were in it, but Eric Idle! Those fragments could also have been from "Battle Beyond the Stars". Hans Zimmerframe's "Black Rain - Charlie Loses His Head" was used in a few trailers in the 90s, including Speed me thinks, but don't quote me on that.

Why ?. It's ACTIVE on Page 89.

_____________________________

TIME TO ACTUALLY LOOK !.

Wow idk how I missed that when I searched, but thanks

WOW We have slipped to page 11!! everyone must be on vacation...

Scott

WOW We have slipped to page 11!! everyone must be on vacation...

Scott

I think maybe everyone's just melting from the heat!

Whew.

I do need a vacation....but,the subscriptions here, don't inform me until days after a comment by me that a new comment has been posted. In other words, Mr. Scott need to fix Subspace radio....or I could check back more often.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

This is great. Now all is left is Star Trek Nemesis

Varese released NEMESIS, so they would have to expand it, or perhaps Intrada, seeing that they do a lot of Paramount property :)

Varese owns the rights to the Nemesis score in perpetuity, so it's them or nobody.

The best they will do is a Deluxe Edition, and judging from the boot, they might squeeze it onto a single cd if they can.

I want to share something with you all, something that really PISSED me off. I had dinner last night with a "friend" from the studios (not the one that I work for) and the subject got over to TREK, and I asked him if he picked up the TOS box set from LALALAND, and then he informs me that he's had the music from the master recordings for TEN YEARS!!! I told him that he never told me that he had access to any of that stuff previously, and he KNEW how much I love all things TREK, especially the TOS stuff, and he said that he thought that I already had it long before him! I could of had it up here to share with you all YEARS before the LALA release!!!!

Some times, you just never know about people!

William

I think maybe everyone's just melting from the heat!

Whew.

We went through that last week, now those back East are getting it now! not so much the heat it's the humidity thats the killer. Today high is supposed to be 102 (normal were I live)...

Scott

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I do need a vacation....but,the subscriptions here, don't inform me until days after a comment by me that a new comment has been posted. In other words, Mr. Scott need to fix Subspace radio....or I could check back more often.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

I'm giving her all shes got!! but Lt. Commander Uhura says the toilets have backup into the coil assembly and over loaded comms!! so transmissions are sporadic....


Scott

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I want to share something with you all, something that really PISSED me off. I had dinner last night with a "friend" from the studios (not the one that I work for) and the subject got over to TREK, and I asked him if he picked up the TOS box set from LALALAND, and then he informs me that he's had the music from the master recordings for TEN YEARS!!! I told him that he never told me that he had access to any of that stuff previously, and he KNEW how much I love all things TREK, especially the TOS stuff, and he said that he thought that I already had it long before him! I could of had it up here to share with you all YEARS before the LALA release!!!!

Some times, you just never know about people!

William

The way Paramount guards there properties (unless their not getting any money from them) I can understand not broadcasting the fact he has a copy of the master tapes!! but still, he knows how much you love TOS! yeah I'd be a little upset too my friend. There is a bright side to this, if he can get you a copy, you can see if LALA left anything out and post what they did not :) and of course there is the cool factor! you have a copy of the Master Music Tapes from TOS (a one in a million) :)

Scott

I want to share something with you all, something that really PISSED me off. I had dinner last night with a "friend" from the studios (not the one that I work for) and the subject got over to TREK, and I asked him if he picked up the TOS box set from LALALAND, and then he informs me that he's had the music from the master recordings for TEN YEARS!!! I told him that he never told me that he had access to any of that stuff previously, and he KNEW how much I love all things TREK, especially the TOS stuff, and he said that he thought that I already had it long before him! I could of had it up here to share with you all YEARS before the LALA release!!!!

Some times, you just never know about people!

William

If that's true (and as always, I'll take your word for it!), that's really sad, but that's the way things go sometimes!

So the guy you are referring to had the master recordings. Does that mean that HE is also the one LaLaLand got them from for their release? I would think that "master tapes" can exist just once per definition, or can there be more than one "master tape"? (Forgive that silly question... )

Any Eastern seaboard pussies complaining about a little heat can go frak themselves repeatedly. Good God. We deal with 110 + temps for almost 3 solid months. At the height of summer, our morning lows are still near 100. Geeze.

Amanda, congrats on post 10.500. It was hotter than most.;)

We in Alabama have temps mostly around 90, WITH TOO MUCH RAIN, DAMN IT, DAMN IT, I HAVE FUNGUS GROWING ON MY MOLD!

William, if you don't. can I kick his ass?

Well, first of all, I have no idea what format he had dumped the music to. Since he is NOT a "music person" in the business, and he is definately NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer, I shutter to think that perhaps, 10 years ago, he dumped them onto CASSETTES!!!!! (Yikes) :( I was using DAT format back then, along with reel to reel, but this guy is not an audiogeek!

I am fairly confident that he's not BSing me, because he just doesn't do that sort of thing. I will find out all the "W's" (what when where why, and how come) and see if there is anything we can do. I was thinking that he may have stuff that LALA left out, but according to their own statement, they only left out alt takes that were dups of the aired music, and included all the un-used stuff. AND, speaking of LALA, according to their own promo video, it showed them walking into some "vault" of sound recording reels, which I KNOW for a fact is not the storage area over at Paramount, which I have been in many times, last time only 2 months ago! I have no idea where that was supposed to be, as I stated before, but I don't think that the "master" recordings were taken to area 51 for storage out in the dry desert! Hehehehehe :)

Anyway, I will see what we can see. And, YES, AZSneed, if it turns out not to be, you can kick HIS ass, and mine for being a dumbass! :)

William

Well, first of all, I have no idea what format he had dumped the music to. Since he is NOT a "music person" in the business, and he is definately NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer, I shutter to think that perhaps, 10 years ago, he dumped them onto CASSETTES!!!!! (Yikes) :( I was using DAT format back then, along with reel to reel, but this guy is not an audiogeek!

I am fairly confident that he's not BSing me, because he just doesn't do that sort of thing. I will find out all the "W's" (what when where why, and how come) and see if there is anything we can do. I was thinking that he may have stuff that LALA left out, but according to their own statement, they only left out alt takes that were dups of the aired music, and included all the un-used stuff. AND, speaking of LALA, according to their own promo video, it showed them walking into some "vault" of sound recording reels, which I KNOW for a fact is not the storage area over at Paramount, which I have been in many times, last time only 2 months ago! I have no idea where that was supposed to be, as I stated before, but I don't think that the "master" recordings were taken to area 51 for storage out in the dry desert! Hehehehehe :)

Anyway, I will see what we can see. And, YES, AZSneed, if it turns out not to be, you can kick HIS ass, and mine for being a dumbass! :)

William
Thanks for the elaboration on the matter, William! Interesting stuff... I misinterpreted you when you said "he's had the music from the master recordings", thinking he "had possessed the master recordings", instead of "had duplicated them onto some inferior medium". But even if they were on cassettes, there might be some stuff of interest... who knows... Looking forward to any new infos on that. If nothing comes out of it, however, I won't mind - the LaLa release was pretty much complete and probably didn't need any more alt takes, which would have made some of the music redundant.

William. Those master recordings would be degraded to some extent by now, or what? Were they 'saved' in the 80s or 90s on to digital media? And am I wrong to presume some filtering shenanigans has been thrown at them prior to them being recorded on to CD.

As far as I'm aware commercial pure digital recording didn't kick off until the 80s. The most common type of CD had a SPARS code of AAD, where the first A indicates the recording was originally Analogue, the mixing Analogue, and the recording Digital (always D in this case). But then there were a handful of DDDs out there, which are truly lossless recordings. It also seems that new CD labels don't carry the SPARS code any longer, regardless of when the original recording was made.

Say Guys Has anyone got these New Soundtracks or have a or Loaded a RAR or Zip file of it?

Music From The Star Trek Saga ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/06/music-from-the-star-trek-saga-new-release-information-track-previews/)
Star Trek: Music from the Video Games ? New Release Information & Track Previews | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/07/star-trek-music-from-the-video-games-new-release-information-track-previews/)

I'd Like to be able to get My Hands on these. :D


You can find the Star Trek : music from the video game on the following thread : Thread 137342

I too, hope that the Master Tapes copies, if worth it, have some hidden treasures.

I don't think Area 51 is the place, more like the underground bunker of the Vulcans. You know how they want to keep us down.

Well, first of all, I have no idea what format he had dumped the music to. Since he is NOT a "music person" in the business, and he is definately NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer, I shutter to think that perhaps, 10 years ago, he dumped them onto CASSETTES!!!!! (Yikes) :( I was using DAT format back then, along with reel to reel, but this guy is not an audiogeek!

I am fairly confident that he's not BSing me, because he just doesn't do that sort of thing. I will find out all the "W's" (what when where why, and how come) and see if there is anything we can do. I was thinking that he may have stuff that LALA left out, but according to their own statement, they only left out alt takes that were dups of the aired music, and included all the un-used stuff. AND, speaking of LALA, according to their own promo video, it showed them walking into some "vault" of sound recording reels, which I KNOW for a fact is not the storage area over at Paramount, which I have been in many times, last time only 2 months ago! I have no idea where that was supposed to be, as I stated before, but I don't think that the "master" recordings were taken to area 51 for storage out in the dry desert! Hehehehehe :)

Anyway, I will see what we can see. And, YES, AZSneed, if it turns out not to be, you can kick HIS ass, and mine for being a dumbass! :)

William

As I remember the video (I could be wrong) but I believe the fault is in Arizona, which would be a perfect place to store reel to reel tapes and film (dry heat, no humidity) which is why the Air Force stores there aircraft there. As for your friend having a copy of the tapes, it's plausible! who knows how long those tapes originally stayed in the studio lot vault before someone found them and brought it to management attention, hell, for all we know the on-site vault got full and they decided to ship all this (Management thinking) old crap to another storage site! or one that can offer better protection for the medium they want to save. Can you imagine Trek fans finding out Paramount let the only known recording of the music to such a beloved show sit in a vault and decay (not that it has not happened to other films and music) and did nothing to protect them! Not that Paramount cares! All they see is dollars lost, but for us that love TOS it would be a terrible loss to say the lest. Anyway, Azsneed I'll hold him and you can kick the crap out of him and then all three of us can go have lunch!! William your buying!! :)

Scott

Can i watch? the beating i mean.

William. Those master recordings would be degraded to some extent by now, or what? Were they 'saved' in the 80s or 90s on to digital media? And am I wrong to presume some filtering shenanigans has been thrown at them prior to them being recorded on to CD.

As far as I'm aware commercial pure digital recording didn't kick off until the 80s. The most common type of CD had a SPARS code of AAD, where the first A indicates the recording was originally Analogue, the mixing Analogue, and the recording Digital (always D in this case). But then there were a handful of DDDs out there, which are truly lossless recordings. It also seems that new CD labels don't carry the SPARS code any longer, regardless of when the original recording was made.

Here is youtube's page for the video on the TOS music Star Trek: The Original Series Soundtrack Collection- Behind the Score - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA34dfODi4M)

As you can see the music was recorded on 1/4 inch tape, 150 reels, 1/2 hour per tape for a total of 75 hours, then it was digitalized, cleaned up and made ready for modern CD players. Most of the takes were in mono, so LALA filtered them for stereo, there are a few takes that where recorded in stereo. Hope this helps....


Scott

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Can i watch? the beating i mean.

Sure! always loved a audience for a good old beat down :)

Scott

If William is buying Lunch, then let's just waste him, just for NOT telling about the tapes.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

Oh, what the hell, I will bring my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/flamethrower.gif....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/46.gif...OK! OK! I know THAT was too much.

If William is buying Lunch, then let's just waste him, just for NOT telling about the tapes.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

Oh, what the hell, I will bring my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/flamethrower.gif....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/46.gif...OK! OK! I know THAT was too much.

A beat down and a roast! all in one day!!! cool!! all to the tune of (The Ancient Combat) now all we need is a floor show ;)

Scott

I heard of a new Musical show called, "I'M JUST A REDSHIRT", audition daily.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif
Fun for all TOS fans.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

I heard of a new Musical show called, "I'M JUST A REDSHIRT", audition daily.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif
Fun for all TOS fans.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Scott

hey, i can see you guys are having a real good time here ;)

just wanted to pop in and say hi :)

Hi, Sorei! Do you want to see a Musical?

Hi, Sorei! Do you want to see a Musical?

What? The "I'M JUST A REDSHIRT" one. Lol!

Hi, Sorei! Do you want to see a Musical?

actually i have never liked musicals. i admit i liked "Mamma Mia" (because I STILL am Abba fan) but normally i start running when i see them singing in a movie...

actually i have never liked musicals. i admit i liked "Mamma Mia" (because I STILL am Abba fan) but normally i start running when i see them singing in a movie...

"tell me more, tell me more, did you put up a fight ?."

"tell me more, tell me more, did you put up a fight ?."

yes ok, that was another exception :D
I still like Olivia....

howdy, everyone. been a while.


Any Eastern seaboard pussies complaining about a little heat can go frak themselves repeatedly. Good God. We deal with 110 + temps for almost 3 solid months. At the height of summer, our morning lows are still near 100. Geeze.

yeah, but aren't you dealing with a dry heat? totally different. in my experience, 105 degree desert heat is far more bearable than 90 degree virginia heat.

But, this one is TOS! Uhura sings, and the Redshirts dance while....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif

The http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/gorn.gif and the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif give great reviews. Even the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif like it!

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howdy, everyone. been a while.



yeah, but aren't you dealing with a dry heat? totally different. in my experience, 105 degree desert heat is far more bearable than 90 degree virginia heat.

I bet you get all misty eyed watching DEATH VALLEY DAYS.;)

We deal with 110 + temps for almost 3 solid months. At the height of summer, our morning lows are still near 100. Geeze.

Yeah man, but it's a dry heat! (Hudson, "Aliens")

But, this one is TOS! Uhura sings, and the Redshirts dance while....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif

The http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/gorn.gif and the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif give great reviews. Even the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif like it!

i THINK i would make another exception for TOS, as i would for any trek ;)

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan the Musical

Who can forget the those... unforgettable tunes like

"Botany Bay!! ... Oh no!! Botany Bay!! ..."

and "KHAN!!! SHAKA-KHAN!!!"



Star Trek III: The Search for Spock the Opera

For the more snooty, there's the Opera with classics such as

"You Klingon bastards!! ... You killed my son!! ..."

Chorus "You Klingon bastards!! ... You killed his son!! ..."

and

"I give two minutes!! ... for you and your gallant crew!! ..."

Chorus "He gives two minutes!! ..."

Who can forget that awesome love theme, "You Had Your World, and I Had Mine". Brings me to tears...

I don't remember the title of the Pon Far song in STIII the Opera, but it was stimulating.

Its hard to pronounce in Vulcan. in fact, I think it was a pantomime.

Is there anyway I can get the Arena fight themes and music?

Is there anyway I can get the Arena fight themes and music?

That's a tough one. "Arena" doesn't have an original score, and the official LaLaLand release only has music for episodes who got a full or partial score, or snippets of additional music tracks like the cembalo music from "The Squire of Gothos" (I think less than 40 episodes). The remaining episodes, including "Arena", were more or less completely "tracked", meaning they had cues from episodes produced before in the series/season, or music from some of the "library sessions", with music composed for no specific episode. "Arena" was heavily tracked with music composed by Sol Kaplan, from the episode "The Enemy Within", but there certainly were other episodes from which music was tracked. If you already have the 15 disc collection (you can still get it somewhere in this thread, I believe), you can go through the music from all the episodes produced in season 1 before "Arena" and put together your own "tracked" score.

Helpful for such a task would be the original cue sheet for that episode, which makes it easier to identify the tracked cues (their origin and the place and lenght in the tracked episode), but so far (with a few exceptions in Jeff Bond's book "The Music of Star Trek"), there are no officially released cue sheets, as far as I know. A while ago, Williamtaylor said he would love to pinpoint them and share them with us, but I have the feeling he had no luck so far finding them, right William?

Another possibility: maybe some tracked episodes have been created already, now that all the original material is available! If someone has done some of them already, it would be great if he/she could share them with us here! And who knows - maybe "Arena" already is one of them! :)

That's a tough one. "Arena" doesn't have an original score, and the official LaLaLand release only has music for episodes who got a full or partial score, or snippets of additional music tracks like the cembalo music from "The Squire of Gothos" (I think less than 40 episodes). The remaining episodes, including "Arena", were more or less completely "tracked", meaning they had cues from episodes produced before in the series/season, or music from some of the "library sessions", with music composed for no specific episode. "Arena" was heavily tracked with music composed by Sol Kaplan, from the episode "The Enemy Within", but there certainly were other episodes from which music was tracked. If you already have the 15 disc collection (you can still get it somewhere in this thread, I believe), you can go through the music from all the episodes produced in season 1 before "Arena" and put together your own "tracked" score.

Helpful for such a task would be the original cue sheet for that episode, which makes it easier to identify the tracked cues (their origin and the place and lenght in the tracked episode), but so far (with a few exceptions in Jeff Bond's book "The Music of Star Trek"), there are no officially released cue sheets, as far as I know. A while ago, Williamtaylor said he would love to pinpoint them and share them with us, but I have the feeling he had no luck so far finding them, right William?

Another possibility: maybe some tracked episodes have been created already, now that all the original material is available! If someone has done some of them already, it would be great if he/she could share them with us here! And who knows - maybe "Arena" already is one of them! :)
Wow. I didn't expect this long and thorough reply like this!

I've went back to my album copy and it's Disc 4, and the Arena cue you hear prominently through the episode occurs mostly in track 8, "Confrontation". Thanks for your help! I do agree that this would be a hell of alot easier with a cue sheet.

Wow. I didn't expect this long and thorough reply like this!

I've went back to my album copy and it's Disc 4, and the Arena cue you hear prominently through the episode occurs mostly in track 8, "Confrontation". Thanks for your help! I do agree that this would be a hell of alot easier with a cue sheet.

It's not free. You're going to have to fill in the PayPal form before we let you go :)

It's not free. You're going to have to fill in the PayPal form before we let you go :)
Do you take printed money? *drops bag and runs away*

Yes, actually I do have a friend trying to come up with any notes, cue sheets or anything like that, but as you said, it is an uphill battle!

Willliam

Do you want me to kick his ass....no, wait, your friend IS helping.....nevermind.:)

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It's not free. You're going to have to fill in the PayPal form before we let you go :)

I didn't know that, no wonder I'm out of money.

Do you want me to kick his ass....no, wait, your friend IS helping.....nevermind.:)

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I didn't know that, no wonder I'm out of money.

My friend I'll have to introduce you to the "Quick Easy Pay Plan" (Colt 45 to right temple of payee, pull hammer back, give mean expression on face, receive MONEY) ;)


Scott

My friend I'll have to introduce you to the "Quick Easy Pay Plan" (Colt 45 to right temple of payee, pull hammer back, give mean expression on face, receive MONEY) ;)


Scott
Mr. Scott, I would rather choose the Russian pay option.

That being Russian Roulette.

An addicted gambler, I see.:)

After all, who in their right mind would want this bunch knocking down their door.

Started watching Stargate Universe and man is it boring! I feel like none of the characters like each other and I hate each any every single one of them for that. A few more episodes. Then if the plots are again about getting air, water, coconut oil or pickles even :D, I'm done.

Started watching Stargate Universe and man is it boring! I feel like none of the characters like each other and I hate each any every single one of them for that. A few more episodes. Then if the plots are again about getting air, water, coconut oil or pickles even :D, I'm done.


Hang in there olafolaf. It IS/WAS a good show, and the characters grow. It had a lot of potential to carry on the franchise, but for some reason, Syfi was having an 'identity crisis' and canned it (along with much of it's original content). It wasn't the traditional "Stargate". It grew into it's own. Anyway, just my thoughts. ;)

for me, stagate universe was a bit like deep space nine, i was startled by how "dark" it was, but it grew to me and i would have loved to see more.
Then again...maybe I am just easy to please :D

...maybe I am just easy to please :D

Nothing wrong with that!.

I hope that one day there'll be returns to both the Star Trek and the Stargate franchises.

I hope that one day there'll be returns to both the Star Trek and the Stargate franchises.

me too :) :)

I miss seeing Star Trek on TV. I have never seen all of Stargate, so I have lots of new stuff for me.

I miss seeing Star Trek on TV. .

me too (once more)

ohhh i envy you, i liked stargate, sg1, stargate universe and atlantis too.

me too (once more)

ohhh i envy you, i liked stargate, sg1, stargate universe and atlantis too.


I miss seeing Star Trek on TV. I have never seen all of Stargate, so I have lots of new stuff for me.

I'm quite lucky as I have been out of Star Trek for a while. I still have most of ST: Enterprise to watch (which I am thoroughly enjoying), the last few seasons of DS9 and Voyager from season 2 on.

I know how you feel sorei, I remember when one of my friends had some Next Gen episodes to watch when the series ended, I was envious that he was seeing NEW episodes (well new to him).

Any Eastern seaboard pussies complaining about a little heat can go frak themselves repeatedly. Good God. We deal with 110 + temps for almost 3 solid months. At the height of summer, our morning lows are still near 100. Geeze.

Of course, if that is your normal summer then you're expecting it, even if you don't like it. If the normal temperature for this time of year on the East Coast is, say, high 80's, a heat wave of 98 plus humidity sucks more for folks in New York than 110 does for you (I'll take 100 dry desert degrees in Vegas over humidly rotten 90 in Manhattan any time). It's all a matter of perspective. It's always hotter/colder/wetter somewhere else. Someone always has it worse. That doesn't mean you can't bitch about your bad day. We're humans: complaining is what we do best.

We in OKC should be happy to have highs "only" around 95 as in the last week. But *sigh* correct, Amanda, part of human nature is fussing.

Around here, it's not the feet, it's the stupidity.

I MEAN not the heat, but the HUMIDITY.

Of course, as CS Lewis referred to, "being human" is at once the greatest thing you can imagine but also nasty enough to make the greatest king hang his head in shame ...

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
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I run hot, so to speak, so I'm at my most comfortable at 68ish. Anything in the mid-80's in uncomfortable, so you can imagine I'd find 98 to be intolerable. Once I reach "torture" level, hot is hot. I find 98 and 105 feel pretty much the same; it simply sucks.

Funny, when I was a kid, I didn't care as much. I was just happy to be home from school, staying up late, watching Star Trek on the overnights.

Whine and complain about the weather, that is all that I hear....and most from me. Yesterday was the first in a l....o....n....g time that it did NOT rain. It felt odd. Temps, not too bad.

Don't worry, I'll keep adding stuff here! And I've got more new stuff on the way, too! Here's a little something from 2009:

[/COLOR]Free Enterprise - The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Various Artists



At 320kbps. Includes high quality scans of liner notes.

http://www.rapidshare.com/files/442043650/freEntOst.rar

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Trekkies 2 - The Official Soundtrack [Promo]
Various Artists



At 320kbps. Includes high quality scans of liner notes.

http://www.rapidshare.com/files/442049844/Trkkes2oSt.rar



Is it possible that somebody out there has these 2 LPs to post up, or working links thereof?

To make this bargain worth your while, I'll be happy to trade* you for the music in Tribble Pelts or used Kitty Litter, whichever you prefer. Just name your price!

Thank you



*note: humor switch in the "ON" position...

It is a shame I don't have them, I could use some more Tribble Pelts. They are the only fur I'm not allergic to, and my bald scalp is cold. Besides, it is cool to be like William Shatner.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

It is a shame I don't have them, I could use some more Tribble Pelts. They are the only fur I'm not allergic to, and my bald scalp is cold. Besides, it is cool to be like William Shatner.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

All you need my friend is one tribble, a little food and in a few hours you would have enough fur to make a tribble coat :)

Scott

If I did, I would have to get a Tribble Predator from the Klingons, AND you know how much of a situation THAT will be!

I know a name to bring fear to you Scott....Cyrano Jones!

Some nice unreleased bits of music (Deluxe Edition?) playing as background music on Star Trek Into Darkness | Trailer & Official Movie Site | In Theaters Now (http://www.startrekmovie.com/)

downloads.paramount.com/mp/advertising/startrek2/media/audio/ [insert 01 to 06] .mp3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/tears8.gifIt aint Star Trek!

Since when were we NOT allowed to discuss Into Darkness here?

If I did, I would have to get a Tribble Predator from the Klingons, AND you know how much of a situation THAT will be!

I know a name to bring fear to you Scott....Cyrano Jones!

Mr. Jones can kiss the underside of the Enterprise!!! (hmmmm kind of rhymes :) ) If your not squeamish you can skin those Tribble's one right after another! I would recommend laddy, you get a Warrigul he can clean up the mess and any left overs. ;)

Scott

The versatility of Tribble is amazing:

http://s8.postimg.org/b957fwu51/contagious_outfit_cosmic_white1.jpghttp://s8.postimg.org/4hesd255h/contagious_outfit_cosmic_white4.jpg

All you need my friend is one tribble, a little food and in a few hours you would have enough fur to make a tribble coat :)

Scott


I prefer Tribble over Chinchilla. Or Sable, for that matter.

When science perfects asexual Sables, or Chinch, then I might become a fan.

But since Tribbles are a dime a dozen, the bottom's fell out of the Chinch, Sable and Mink markets.

A buyer's market must suck for those Chinch, Sable and Mink breeders!

:(

Since when were we NOT allowed to discuss Into Darkness here?

I never read to the contrary. Discuss if you want to. To me it ain't Star Trek, and that is MY opinion.

Since when were we NOT allowed to discuss Into Darkness here?

who says we can't?
:)
and to me it is star trek. idic.

@az, a hug of sympathy for you.

Thanks for the hug, but, you have not changed my mind....at least for today.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

Thanks for the hug, but, you have not changed my mind....at least for today.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

the hug was not intended to make you change your mind, dear az!

Well, that is OK, I still needed the hug.:)

Well, that is OK, I still needed the hug.:)

you need a hug, you just give a shout, you will always get one :)

(... i guess, we do not need words, a kind and supportive hug would be all that is needed, sometimes. sad thing this seems not to be happening often enough.)

you need a hug, you just give a shout, you will always get one :)

(... i guess, we do not need words, a kind and supportive hug would be all that is needed, sometimes. sad thing this seems not to be happening often enough.)

A Hug by Any Other Name... would smell as sweet...

For the World Is Hollow, and I Have Hugged the Sky!

A Hug by Any Other Name... would smell as sweet...

For the World Is Hollow, and I Have Hugged the Sky!

of course you will get one too
there are just not enough hugs in the universe
i will do what i can to change that! :D

of course you will get one too
there are just not enough hugs in the universe
i will do what i can to change that! :D

That's why it's so great to be a Q - you can always create an endless amount of hugs out of thin air! <snap>

HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG

(that's just a start, of course...)

Oh! I feel so much better now :)

All we need is a group hug!!!

Scott

What? I thought you said a GROUPIE HUG!

Mark
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PS not expert enough to insert the actual photo, not the photo's address ...

What? I thought you said a GROUPIE HUG!



lol
the pic is good too :D

The guy 'hugging' the fish needs to book an appointment at the "Troy McClure Center for Sexual Abnormality".

The guy 'hugging' the fish needs to book an appointment at the "Troy McClure Center for Sexual Abnormality".





You know, I did think something was a little fishy about him.

*beat*

Maybe the picture's not to scale.

*beat*

Maybe he misses his gill friend.

*beat*

Maybe she was too fin-icky.

*beat*

Or a hooker.

*beat*

These jokes were all wet.

*beat*

But DRIPPING with wit.

*beat*

Bye for now!

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock?s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

This is why I like it here, most are almost as crazy as I am....just not there yet.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/hammerhead.gif.....just keep trying.:)

We grow up watching the three stooges (and doing the same stunts on our siblings hehehe), watching the "The Grove Tub" or "Flesh Gorden" (if you never heard of these movie's your way to young) this is a small sample of what warped (pun intended) our minds! and good thing to. I'd rather go through life laughing my ass off then being a stiff shirt and never having any fun at all.

Scott

I ain't got no ass, laffed it off so long ago. I do feel sorry for all of those stiff shirts, but, they are fun too. I http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif at them, and they just http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/017.gif and I just http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif!

We grow up watching the three stooges (and doing the same stunts on our siblings hehehe), watching the "The Grove Tub" or "Flesh Gorden" (if you never heard of these movie's your way to young) this is a small sample of what warped (pun intended) our minds! and good thing to. I'd rather go through life laughing my ass off then being a stiff shirt and never having any fun at all.

Scott

I was always more of a Laurel and Hardy Kid. Well I say kid, I still love them today. Flesh Gordon...... I can't forget the scene where he was thrown into a pit of les...... I'd best stop there in case there are any kids perusing this thread ;)

Kids? Kids today are mofo this, mofo that. I'd ignore 'em.

Carry on with what you were saying, as I've not seen that film :)

Yes, finish what you were saying http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/drooling.gif.........http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Corrupting my young mind, shame on you.;)

Does anyone still have "Best of Both Worlds" Studio Transfer or recording session? I accidentily DL Relics recording session in place of it and thought i had it. Please?

We grow up watching the three stooges (and doing the same stunts on our siblings hehehe), watching the "The Grove Tub" or "Flesh Gorden" (if you never heard of these movie's your way to young) this is a small sample of what warped (pun intended) our minds! and good thing to. I'd rather go through life laughing my ass off then being a stiff shirt and never having any fun at all.

Scott

Yes, my sister, while I was young, would come up to me, and ask me if I wanted a donut (and I DEARLY loved donuts, as a kid) She would say, "Hey, do you want a 'Hertz' donut?" and of course I would jump up with delight in my eyes, and say "YES!!!", at which point she would punch my shoulder and say "HURTS, don't it?" :)

Ahhhh, the good old days, hhehehehehehehe :)

Just want to let everyone know that I am NOT ignoring you, just that productions are starting up again, and my time is VERY tight right now. But I do pop in from time to time.

Willliam

That's why it's so great to be a Q - you can always create an endless amount of hugs out of thin air! <snap>

HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG

(that's just a start, of course...)

I feel loved from all those Hugs. (: <3

Yes, my sister, while I was young, would come up to me, and ask me if I wanted a donut (and I DEARLY loved donuts, as a kid) She would say, "Hey, do you want a 'Hertz' donut?" and of course I would jump up with delight in my eyes, and say "YES!!!", at which point she would punch my shoulder and say "HURTS, don't it?" :)

Ahhhh, the good old days, hhehehehehehehe :)

Just want to let everyone know that I am NOT ignoring you, just that productions are starting up again, and my time is VERY tight right now. But I do pop in from time to time.

Willliam

We understand William! you go make great music! and we will corrupted some more minds ;) and when your on hiatus again we all look forward to more story's from "The Land of Make Believe"

Scott

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Yes, finish what you were saying http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/drooling.gif.........http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Corrupting my young mind, shame on you.;)

Yeah shame on me!! :p

Lets not forget "Monty Python And The Holy Grail" one of the greatest movies ever made! And good old Benny Hill!! what laughs they have given me :) if your one (not you AZ) of those that thank they are not funny "I fart in your general direction" :)

Scott

I told William about letting work (nasty four letter word) in the way of life here, BUT, NO! He never listens to the insane one, so he will get a Megahertz Donut from me. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/drooling.gif...DONUTS.

We understand William! you go make great music! and we will corrupted some more minds ;) and when your on hiatus again we all look forward to more story's from "The Land of Make Believe"

Scott

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Yeah shame on me!! :p

Lets not forget "Monty Python And The Holy Grail" one of the greatest movies ever made! And good old Benny Hill!! what laughs they have given me :) if your one (not you AZ) of those that thank they are not funny "I fart in your general direction" :)

Scott

That is a good film Scott, but in my mind the best film they did was "The Life of Brian" I can't think of anyone else who could get a spaceship and aliens into a film set in the time period of Jesus Christ. I laughed so much at that film.

Does anyone still have "Best of Both Worlds" Studio Transfer or recording session? I accidentily DL Relics recording session in place of it and thought i had it. Please?

I am not aware of a sessions for Best Of Both. There was an official album way back, some tracks on the Ron Jones set, and a complete Score release a while back. I am not aware of any boot for it, and really with the full score on an official release I do not think there would be any point..?

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And, any young minds to be corrupted, are mine. I am a **good** corrupter. :) Though I am ill. I have an infection in the bone of my jaw. At best it's really numb, at worst...pain. I am on narcotic pain pills. So my corrupting techniques will have to be adjusted.

Amanda, I'm sorry to find that you are ill. :(

When you get better, I will be ready for the Amanda Mind Corruptor.

Amanda, I'm sorry to find that you are ill. :(

When you get better, I will be ready for the Amanda Mind Corruptor.

That goes for me as well. Hope you are better soon, and you've already corrupted me ;) Not that mine is a young mind though LOL. Seriously though, Get well soon <3

Jaws looks like a Klingon with hair transplants.

Get well soon Amanda!!

We await your feminine mind corruption techniques :)

Scott

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That is a good film Scott, but in my mind the best film they did was "The Life of Brian" I can't think of anyone else who could get a spaceship and aliens into a film set in the time period of Jesus Christ. I laughed so much at that film.

True my friend! Or "History Of The World Part 1"

Scott

Take care, Amanda, words alone cannot express my feelings for your pain. I think that there is no greater pain, than one in the head region, especially the mouth! I personally believe that mouth pain is amplified about tens times greater than any body pain, and since my sister in law suffers from migrane headaches, and sometimes has to take as many as 3 days in a row from work, because the pain is just SO intense. I would not wish that sort of situation on ANYONE, not Hitler, or Napolean, or Genis Kahn, (maybe Bush Jr. or Sr. Hehehehehehe) but nobody else!!!! :)

Take care, sweetie, hope that your infection goes away as you sleep!

I always find that if I take some meds, and just go coma for a couple of hours, or days, that is the best way to kill any pain I have.

To Scotty:

I do agree with you, that Monty Python and the holy grail is a great comedy, I used to dream about (as a young lad) of finding myself trapped inside "Castle Antrax" with 15 score girls from 16 to 20 (I know, I'm a PERVE, but this was my youth, when I was between 16 and 20!!!) Talk about getting excited over a SPANKING!!! (not to forget the oral sex as well! Hehehehehehe) Well, that would be something to dream about, huh?

I do like the Life of Brian as well, but Holy Grail really has ALOT of great lines, like someone worked on that script for 10 years!

Oh, well, back to the grindstone, Hehehehehehe


William

Originally Posted by Spectre Gadget

Does anyone still have "Best of Both Worlds" Studio Transfer or recording session? I accidentily DL Relics recording session in place of it and thought i had it. Please?

I am not aware of a sessions for Best Of Both. There was an official album way back, some tracks on the Ron Jones set, and a complete Score release a while back. I am not aware of any boot for it, and really with the full score on an official release I do not think there would be any point..? Amanda

Ok, Thanks. I know someone was going to give them to me but was forgotten, no big deal. Spectre

I'm with you, William. I too thought Grail was better. I thought Brian was a bit overrated given the hype and controversy it generated/received at the time. But still, the "Speak up!" line is good.

Amanda, when I say I feel your pain, I mean it. Next Monday, hopefully, I will get this pain in the head wisdom tooth removed. I only have Advil TM to ease the pain. How about some of your pills? P...L...E...A...S...E!!!!

Get well soon Amanda

Amanda, when I say I feel your pain, I mean it. Next Monday, hopefully, I will get this pain in the head wisdom tooth removed.

i will keep my fingers crossed all goes well :)

Yes Amanda, I'm also praying for you to have strength to "hang in there" and that you'll find relief from the hurting.

Mark

@re: amanda

she'll need time, this hit her when she was not in her best form anyway.
:(
as usual, infections like that hit a weakened body harder.

big hug, dearest moon goddess.

Take care, Amanda, words alone cannot express my feelings for your pain. I think that there is no greater pain, than one in the head region, especially the mouth! I personally believe that mouth pain is amplified about tens times greater than any body pain, and since my sister in law suffers from migrane headaches, and sometimes has to take as many as 3 days in a row from work, because the pain is just SO intense. I would not wish that sort of situation on ANYONE, not Hitler, or Napolean, or Genis Kahn, (maybe Bush Jr. or Sr. Hehehehehehe) but nobody else!!!! :)

Take care, sweetie, hope that your infection goes away as you sleep!

I always find that if I take some meds, and just go coma for a couple of hours, or days, that is the best way to kill any pain I have.

To Scotty:

I do agree with you, that Monty Python and the holy grail is a great comedy, I used to dream about (as a young lad) of finding myself trapped inside "Castle Antrax" with 15 score girls from 16 to 20 (I know, I'm a PERVE, but this was my youth, when I was between 16 and 20!!!) Talk about getting excited over a SPANKING!!! (not to forget the oral sex as well! Hehehehehehe) Well, that would be something to dream about, huh?

I do like the Life of Brian as well, but Holy Grail really has ALOT of great lines, like someone worked on that script for 10 years!

Oh, well, back to the grindstone, Hehehehehehe


William

I was 17 when I saw that movie and boy did I have some dreams and about those "Castle Antrax" girls!! (sure got my heart going hehehehe) Oh to be young, dumb and full of....well you know the rest :) my brothers and I still quote lines from that movie! The whole bridgekeeper scene is one of the funniness!! Now I'm going to have to watch the movie again!!

Scott

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Amanda, when I say I feel your pain, I mean it. Next Monday, hopefully, I will get this pain in the head wisdom tooth removed. I only have Advil TM to ease the pain. How about some of your pills? P...L...E...A...S...E!!!!


I had all three of mine removed 30 years ago and from my past expernce, have them give you "Nitrous Oxide" (Better known as Laughing Gas) and "Sodium Pentothal" (Truth Serum) both of these well go a long way helping you get through the procedure! of course you will need someone else to drive you home. My heart goes out to you AZ and Amanda!!

Scott

Amanda, when I say I feel your pain, I mean it. Next Monday, hopefully, I will get this pain in the head wisdom tooth removed. I only have Advil TM to ease the pain. How about some of your pills? P...L...E...A...S...E!!!!

This forum's turning into an infirmary of sorts. I don't know about Advil, but for serious toothache you should go immediately to your local pharmacy for some "Oil of Cloves", and rub some on your tooth periodically. That should see you until Monday. But if you've got an abscess you'll need some prescription antibiotics like amoxicillin. Good luck.

If any of us had scored at Castle Anthrax We wouldn't be here to talk about it. Did you end up dead in your dreams?

Howdy again.

On Monday I put up an album of "covers" of ST and other SF music, from 1980, by The Now Sound Orchestra. Including a vocal arrangement of "Ilia's Theme" from ST:TMP.

Spock?s Record Round-Up: The Now Sound Orchestra! (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-now-sound-orchestra.html)

Best, especially to Amanda and any other sufferers,

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock?s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

If any of us had scored at Castle Anthrax We wouldn't be here to talk about it. Did you end up dead in your dreams?

Not dead, just frustrated!! lol

Scott

Howdy again.

On Monday I put up an album of "covers" of ST and other SF music, from 1980, by The Now Sound Orchestra. Including a vocal arrangement of "Ilia's Theme" from ST:TMP.

Spock?s Record Round-Up: The Now Sound Orchestra! (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-now-sound-orchestra.html)

Best, especially to Amanda and any other sufferers,

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock?s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

I have that album, and kind of wore out, so I will have to get it. The Ilia Theme vocal is my favorite version.

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Thanks to everyone for your concern and wishing me well, it means alot. The bad news, is that I called the office and my Monday visit is to evaluate my tooth PAIN, and THEN set a date for removal. SO about another two weeks until it is pulled.....just do not pay attention to all of the dead bodies....move along.

I have that album, and kind of wore out, so I will have to get it. The Ilia Theme vocal is my favorite version.

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Thanks to everyone for your concern and wishing me well, it means alot. The bad news, is that I called the office and my Monday visit is to evaluate my tooth PAIN, and THEN set a date for removal. SO about another two weeks until it is pulled.....just do not pay attention to all of the dead bodies....move along.

As the line goes in Monty Python and the Holy Grail....

"The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.

[a man puts a body on the cart]

Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one.

The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.

The Dead Collector: What?

Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.

The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.

Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not.

The Dead Collector: He isn't.

Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better.

Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.

The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart.

Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby.

The Dead Collector: I can't take him.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine.

Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.

The Dead Collector: I can't.

Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.

Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round?

The Dead Collector: Thursday.

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk.

Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?

The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy.

[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club]

Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much.

The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.

Large Man with Dead Body: Right."

Stay brave "Sir AZSneed"

Scott

Here is 'The Music of Star Trek' book in a PDF file: Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362142707/The_Music_of_Star_Trek.pdf.html)

On a related note i received the shipping confirmation of TMP 3CD.

Could someone reupload this!?!?


Never mind just found soundtrekker's re-up

Amazing thread guys! I'm so happy I found this site! :D

Hi! Is the Crescendo Star Trek Insurrection Expanded Score already out?

Star Trek: Insurrection (Expanded Collector's Edition) Jerry Goldsmith (1998/2013) (Thread 138846)

Welcome to the menagerie lavaman!! pull up a seat and join in the fun :)

Scott

I have that album, and kind of wore out, so I will have to get it. The Ilia Theme vocal is my favorite version.

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Thanks to everyone for your concern and wishing me well, it means alot. The bad news, is that I called the office and my Monday visit is to evaluate my tooth PAIN, and THEN set a date for removal. SO about another two weeks until it is pulled.....just do not pay attention to all of the dead bodies....move along.
Sorry to hear that AZSneed :( . Tooth pain is really one of the worst pains out there. I hope they get it sorted soon.

I was 17 when I saw that movie and boy did I have some dreams and about those "Castle Antrax" girls!! (sure got my heart going hehehehe) Oh to be young, dumb and full of....well you know the rest :) my brothers and I still quote lines from that movie! The whole bridgekeeper scene is one of the funniness!! Now I'm going to have to watch the movie again!!

Scott[COLOR="Silver"]


Scott


The first time I saw Holy Grail I was still in high school. I was 15 or 16 yo when older brother took me to the Midnight Movies where it was playing and I laughed so hard I pissed myself!

That film was so damned funny I laughed so hard I couldn't catch my breath, and my stomach hurt after. Holy Grail is a MUST OWN kinda film and I had a copy on VHS, now I have a copy on DVD.

Don't live without it!

Like you, Scott, I used to have entire scenes memorized verbatim. My memory's still pretty good, but not verbatim good!

Bringing out the dead, the Black Knight, the king's effeminate son who would prefer singing rather than get married and inherit "Huge" tracts of land, the Killer Rabbit, and the Bridge keeper scene at the end of the film stand out in my mind as particularly hilarious...

My DVD edition contained about 1 hours worth of extras such as a nickle tour of the filming sites all over Scotland, inside and outside of one of the real castles used in the longshots, interviews, etc. It's a must see for any "real" MP fan!

Thanks for your work.

First, you must find...... another shrubbery!

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Someone's uploaded the whole film onto YouTube Monty Python and the Holy Grail - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpepPPZd0yY)

Sorry to hear that AZSneed :( . Tooth pain is really one of the worst pains out there. I hope they get it sorted soon.

It will be, on Friday, I get the tooth removed. I thought I was going to go the way of the Red Shirts. Oh! The pain. The PAIN! I swear the tooth looks like a Klingon Battle Cruiser, then again, it could have been in my mind from the pain.

It will be, on Friday, I get the tooth removed. I thought I was going to go the way of the Red Shirts. Oh! The pain. The PAIN! I swear the tooth looks like a Klingon Battle Cruiser, then again, it could have been in my mind from the pain.

There is nothing worse then tooth pain! I have had my fair share, and normally I can stand pain, but when a tooth goes bad or is abscess!! God have mercy!!!! I'd rather be shot or have a finger cut off.

Scott

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The first time I saw Holy Grail I was still in high school. I was 15 or 16 yo when older brother took me to the Midnight Movies where it was playing and I laughed so hard I pissed myself!

That film was so damned funny I laughed so hard I couldn't catch my breath, and my stomach hurt after. Holy Grail is a MUST OWN kinda film and I had a copy on VHS, now I have a copy on DVD.

Don't live without it!

Like you, Scott, I used to have entire scenes memorized verbatim. My memory's still pretty good, but not verbatim good!

Bringing out the dead, the Black Knight, the king's effeminate son who would prefer singing rather than get married and inherit "Huge" tracts of land, the Killer Rabbit, and the Bridge keeper scene at the end of the film stand out in my mind as particularly hilarious...

My DVD edition contained about 1 hours worth of extras such as a nickle tour of the filming sites all over Scotland, inside and outside of one of the real castles used in the longshots, interviews, etc. It's a must see for any "real" MP fan!

I'll have to dig my dvd copy out and see if any of what you mentioned is in the copy I have...would love to see the extras! if not then I'll have to see if I can find another copy that does have it. I do mess up some of the lines and my brothers correct me lol oh and the The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

"King Arthur: How does it... um... how does it work?

Sir Lancelot: I know not, my liege.

King Arthur: Consult the Book of Armaments.

Brother Maynard: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine through twenty-one.

Cleric: [reading] And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu...

Brother Maynard: Skip a bit, Brother...

Cleric: And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

Brother Maynard: Amen.

All: Amen.

King Arthur: Right. One... two... five.

Galahad: Three, sir.

King Arthur: Three."

LOOOOOL
Scott

My tooth **is ** bad and will eventually need to be removed. I have a wayward wisdom tooth, that is growing sideways into my molar....

But, the cause if the pain is an infection, but not of the tooth. It is cellulitis, and is in the skin and muscles of my jaw. I am going on the third week of antibiotics now, though the pain is far less. I no longer need pills to get through the day. The area still swollen feels numb to the touch, but feels like it's burning on the inside. Which, oddly, is a relief from the previous pain. :(

Scott, my Dentist said that when I have my last two wisdom teeth removed, it will not make me dumber.....I think I remember that I was a smart ass, before the first two were removed in the 90's, but, at my age, one tends to for...what was I saying?

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Amanda, I'm glad you are getting better. I DO know what you are going through, and I was luckier, that my jaw infection and swelling started last Friday, and now on Antibiotics, I feel better. I mentioned to a friend about my tooth, and he said to get into a bar fight, and it would get knocked out....did I say A friend?

We're talking about teeth in a Star trek thread? Isn't that out of topic? o.O ?!?

Sorry to hear that. Whenever I have problems with my teeth or gums, I use baby's orajel (or a dollar store equivilent) it helps to numb the pain for a while. Ironically enough, I am ill too with a sore throat. I am gurgling orajel to make that pain go away. (Helps to heal my throat up faster too).

Scott, my Dentist said that when I have my last two wisdom teeth removed, it will not make me dumber.....I think I remember that I was a smart ass, before the first two were removed in the 90's, but, at my age, one tends to for...what was I saying?

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Amanda, I'm glad you are getting better. I DO know what you are going through, and I was luckier, that my jaw infection and swelling started last Friday, and now on Antibiotics, I feel better. I mentioned to a friend about my tooth, and he said to get into a bar fight, and it would get knocked out....did I say A friend?

Some friend! He might as well have given you the three stooges method of tooth removal (tie string around bad tooth, tie end of string to door knob, then slam door closed! oh and don't forget to use a short strand of string) I can swear in a court of law that your still a smart!!! oh crap! what the hell were we saying??? Oh yeah smart...damn lost my train of.....Oh square it!!! I know I was headed somewhere?....Yeah, I know Now!! I was headed to the airlock!! something about stepping outside for some fresh air!!

Scott

We're talking about teeth in a Star trek thread? Isn't that out of topic? o.O ?!?

I'm not sure....there were a lot of teeth when they laughed and smiled. Now sEx, sure lots of it....Tribbles, born pregnant, a real time saver....Spock and his pent up time....AND, don't get me started about Kirk!

When you're all done you'll have to pop round for tea in the land of no global warming.

Time to get this thread back on track:

Diehard Star Trek Fans Rank the Best and Worst Movies - IGN (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/12/diehard-star-trek-fans-rank-the-best-and-worst-movies)

Yeah... what? I could never understand the die hards of any franchise. I fail to see how Into Darkness could possibly be worse than Insurrection or The Final Frontier.

Insurrection is my favorite STNG movie, and STV is a fun movie to watch....JJAbram's re-?? movies are not true ST, they are deversions from the real ST for a new generation that embraces anything, and this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif fan can't understand spoofs like them, at least Family Guy did better.

AND, YES I AM PICKING ON YOU, only because I am half http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/gorn.gif andhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif in a http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif!

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Time to get this thread back on track:

Diehard Star Trek Fans Rank the Best and Worst Movies - IGN (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/12/diehard-star-trek-fans-rank-the-best-and-worst-movies)

Yeah... what? I could never understand the die hards of any franchise. I fail to see how Into Darkness could possibly be worse than Insurrection or The Final Frontier.

Some fans may appreciate The Final Frontier not because it's a great film, but simply because it's got the original crew, and it's nice to see them on another whacky adventure.

There are many polls like this. They don't actually mean anything. The films and series and whatever else, are only entertainment to those they have entertained. I have never understood the culture or phenomenon of peer pressure where you are forced to like something because a lot of other people do. What you end up with is an audience that partly consists of people pretending to enjoy something. That's all fine for the movie executives because it's about the bottom line for them.

I'm not keen on the new Trek, and I can't and won't be coerced into liking it. What an odd concept.

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Some fans may appreciate The Final Frontier not because it's a great film, but simply because it's got the original crew, and it's nice to see them on another whacky adventure.

There are many polls like this. They don't actually mean anything. The films and series and whatever else, are only entertainment to those they have entertained. I have never understood the culture or phenomenon of peer pressure where you are forced to like something because a lot of other people do. What you end up with is an audience that partly consists of people pretending to enjoy something. That's all fine for the movie executives because it's about the bottom line for them.

I'm not keen on the new Trek, and I can't and won't be coerced into liking it. What an odd concept.

In reverse, given my age, (23) I'm not keen on the old Trek, it's too low-tech for a futuristic show. I first saw TNG, and the original movies are fairly close to that style. So I don't see it as such an odd concept that people who grew up with the old Trek won't necessarily like the new Trek. It's not meant for the Trekkies as much as it is meant to attract a new audience, because let's face it, the die-hards are at the core of the reason the franchise nearly collapsed in the first place (the studio's endless attempts to placate them) It's like Star Wars. I was nearly 9 when the Prequels started coming out, so the first Star Wars films I ever saw were the originals, and not the SEs either. I tend to have a leaning towards the OT, but somebody younger than me will likely have a leaning towards the Prequels. We're not likely to sway either way.

In reverse, given my age, (23) I'm not keen on the old Trek, it's too low-tech for a futuristic show. I first saw TNG, and the original movies are fairly close to that style. So I don't see it as such an odd concept that people who grew up with the old Trek won't necessarily like the new Trek. It's not meant for the Trekkies as much as it is meant to attract a new audience, because let's face it, the die-hards are at the core of the reason the franchise nearly collapsed in the first place (the studio's endless attempts to placate them) It's like Star Wars. I was nearly 9 when the Prequels started coming out, so the first Star Wars films I ever saw were the originals, and not the SEs either. I tend to have a leaning towards the OT, but somebody younger than me will likely have a leaning towards the Prequels. We're not likely to sway either way.

By low-tech I'm assuming you're commenting on the contemporary film-making limitations and not some of the exceptional stories and cutting edge concepts that featured in some classic episodes. Personally I wouldn't attempt to compare cinematic productions with television productions. They're different animals.

The fans are to blame for the collapse of the franchise? The original show ended in 1969 because of stupid network executives. That show has been shown all over the world and rerun for decades. The animated series had a good run too with appeal to younger viewers. The Next Gen was a good sequel series which had a good run also. The Deep Space 9 show had a great run as did Voyager. The so-called franchise cashed in considerably from the repeats shown on television round the world and the sales of VHS tapes and DVDs. Star Trek The Motion Picture did well, as did the Wrath of Khan, as did the Search for Spock. Back in those days money was not devalued as it is today, and people paid hard cash to see these great films. Who supported the franchise back then? People like you?

If the franchise were to collapse... All good things...

The fans are to blame for the collapse of the franchise? The original show ended in 1969 because of stupid network executives. That show has been shown all over the world and rerun for decades. The animated series had a good run too with appeal to younger viewers. The Next Gen was a good sequel series which had a good run also. The Deep Space 9 show had a great run as did Voyager. The so-called franchise cashed in considerably from the repeats shown on television round the world and the sales of VHS tapes and DVDs. Star Trek The Motion Picture did well, as did the Wrath of Khan, as did the Search for Spock. Back in those days money was not devalued as it is today, and people paid hard cash to see these great films. Who supported the franchise back then? People like you?

If the franchise were to collapse... All good things...

I'm not attributing the collapse to that specific point, and I'm not saying all fans are to blame either, you've misread what I said. The near-collapse happened at Nemesis because it seems the producers were trying hopelessly to pander to the hardcore, I believe. In my personal opinion, the reboot was a good thing to happen. The studios took a long hard look and instead of trying to create another film that was aimed at the hardcore fans, they chose to create a film for anybody who wanted to watch it.

I'm not sure I like the connotations of "people like you". Am I to infer from this that because I'm not keen on the TOS (although I don't hate it) I'm not to be seen as being any sort of fan? That's wrong, for I adore the films, yes, even Nemesis (which had an interesting premise let down by bad direction). I also said that I watched TNG growing up. Just because I started at a later point, does that mean I'm not a fan? No. I'm not a Trekkie, never will be, though. I might also point out that as I said I'm 23 years old there's absolutely no way I could have seen many of the films in cinemas. I do own them all on DVD however.

TL,DR - it's all a matter of personal preference. If you like the TOS, great on you, I'm not going to attack you for it. For me, though, it's not to my liking. I'm from a time where technology on TV programs has long since moved on.

I'm not attributing the collapse to that specific point, and I'm not saying all fans are to blame either, you've misread what I said. The near-collapse happened at Nemesis because it seems the producers were trying hopelessly to pander to the hardcore, I believe. In my personal opinion, the reboot was a good thing to happen. The studios took a long hard look and instead of trying to create another film that was aimed at the hardcore fans, they chose to create a film for anybody who wanted to watch it.

I'm not sure I like the connotations of "people like you". Am I to infer from this that because I'm not keen on the TOS (although I don't hate it) I'm not to be seen as being any sort of fan? That's wrong, for I adore the films, yes, even Nemesis (which had an interesting premise let down by bad direction). I also said that I watched TNG growing up. Just because I started at a later point, does that mean I'm not a fan? No. I'm not a Trekkie, never will be, though. I might also point out that as I said I'm 23 years old there's absolutely no way I could have seen many of the films in cinemas. I do own them all on DVD however.

TL,DR - it's all a matter of personal preference. If you like the TOS, great on you, I'm not going to attack you for it. For me, though, it's not to my liking. I'm from a time where technology on TV programs has long since moved on.

The "you've misread" canard routine. As Khan would say "There she is!". As I expressed earlier this kind of poll means nothing, so there's no point getting your knickers in a twist. You watch what you like, but by starting a discussion with "Yeah... what? I could never understand the die hards of any franchise. I fail to see how Into Darkness could possibly be worse than Insurrection or The Final Frontier." you've opened the door to anyone who may agree with or object to your reasoning. You see, you've applied the connotation "Hard-core fans" and "Die-hards" to a section of the Star Trek community who are not keen on the reboot. There are most likely many different reasons for different die-hard-core-fans. I don't know how big that section is, but it's their choice - put me in that bracket. And by using such language you've inferred that they're extremists of a sort who hold a particular dogma with respect to the Star Trek Universe. It's not a crime to have discernment. You expressed some yourself.

What? It's just AZSneed, Scotty and me? No way.

The "you've misread" canard routine. As Khan would say "There she is!". As I expressed earlier this kind of poll means nothing, so there's no point getting your knickers in a twist. You watch what you like, but by starting a discussion with "Yeah... what? I could never understand the die hards of any franchise. I fail to see how Into Darkness could possibly be worse than Insurrection or The Final Frontier." you've opened the door to anyone who may agree with or object to your reasoning. You see, you've applied the connotation "Hard-core fans" and "Die-hards" to a section of the Star Trek community who are not keen on the reboot. There are most likely many different reasons for different die-hard-core-fans. I don't know how big that section is, but it's their choice - put me in that bracket. And by using such language you've inferred that they're extremists of a sort who hold a particular dogma with respect to the Star Trek Universe. It's not a crime to have discernment. You expressed some yourself.

What? It's just AZSneed, Scotty and me? No way.

Maybe it's come across as such, but I didn't mean to correlate "die-hards" with those who don't like the reboot. I see the die-hards as those ones who say that you're wrong for liking a certain thing, or that you're not a true fan. I do tend to have a certain incredulity, because sometimes I tend to look at the films critically outside of enjoying them. I sometimes also tend to say without thinking. I will say this however: yes, there are extremists in the Trekkies' ranks. Just like any other franchise. I've met some real doozies in other franchises' fan ranks.

I hope I've cleared a little of my intent up, it wasn't meant to be inflammatory. Let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

My tooth **is ** bad and will eventually need to be removed. I have a wayward wisdom tooth, that is growing sideways into my molar....

But, the cause if the pain is an infection, but not of the tooth. It is cellulitis, and is in the skin and muscles of my jaw. I am going on the third week of antibiotics now, though the pain is far less. I no longer need pills to get through the day. The area still swollen feels numb to the touch, but feels like it's burning on the inside. Which, oddly, is a relief from the previous pain. :(


I"m sorry to hear that you've been in so much pain. And thank you for the explanation for the jawbone infection because I was trying to figure out how one tooth affected the bone, and which came first, the wisdom tooth or the bone, etc.

I'd inquired about your wisdom and your teeth in a previous post, but for whatever reason my posts all got linked together.

Being a problem-solving kinda guy, I deleted the redundancies, which then deleted all my previous posts of that day.

Aint technology wunnerful?

I hope you feel much better and soon.

After what you just said, you don't have to wear a red shirt.;)

I do understand that what you are saying and respect your views, after all they are entertainment, not real life...at least for most. Let's make this clear,I'm a TOS diehard fan. So I do not like the two newer movies, since the real reason they were made, was for Paramount to bring in more money for themselves. The movies were not created for us fans, they were created in order to create new fans, and the hope they go back to buy the older series and movies on DVD and all of the other junk they pass off as collectables.

To me, only the TOS series/movies, TAS, and STNG series/movies are Star Trek. The others are SCI-FI. The 2009 movie, I though was eye candy only, no story, not characters, but, the effects were awesome, as far as I can remember. Since the 2009 movie disappointed me, I just could not see the 2013 movie. Into Darkness, is the only movie with the Star Trek name on it, that I have not see in the theater.

Just like the re-imagined/re-boot/re-invented movies put out over the years, I don't fool with them, a poor excuse for lack of original ideas, and only to hope for the studios to make tons of money on well known subjects such as The Lone Ranger, big mistakes!

One thing that I really like, is that you like Star Trek, we need more like you, but, if you don't like TOS for it's low tech, enjoy it for the stories and character.
Just like Gerry Anderson's puppet shows, I though how silly, until I watched them on DVD, and got into the story and the rich characters, and didn't notice the strings.

I didn't care for the new JJ Treks. I really looked forward to both of them, but was pretty meh afterwards.

I"m sorry to hear that you've been in so much pain. And thank you for the explanation for the jawbone infection because I was trying to figure out how one tooth affected the bone, and which came first, the wisdom tooth or the bone, etc.

I'd inquired about your wisdom and your teeth in a previous post, but for whatever reason my posts all got linked together.

Being a problem-solving kinda guy, I deleted the redundancies, which then deleted all my previous posts of that day.

Aint technology wunnerful?

I hope you feel much better and soon.

I saw a video in the Dental Surgeon's office, and was shocked and amazed about how the wisdom teeth comes in, no wonder is a real pain!

I saw a video in the Dental Surgeon's office, and was shocked and amazed about how the wisdom teeth comes in, no wonder is a real pain!



I never opted to have mine removed. I thought it was a free, natural way for me to grow smarter w/o trying too hard.

Besides, various warrior societies feel that pain is pleasure in and of itself. Pain is a badge of honor.

I've been feeling those wisdom teeth come in a little bit at a time since 1900 und 90. They're still coming in, taking their own sweet time. Those rat bastards!

That's wrong, for I adore the films, yes, even Nemesis (which had an interesting premise let down by bad direction).


I'm not attributing the collapse to that specific point, and I'm not saying all fans are to blame either, you've misread what I said. The near-collapse happened at Nemesis because it seems the producers were trying hopelessly to pander to the hardcore


I tend to look at the films critically outside of enjoying them.

I am sorry, I saw Nemesis I was sick to my stomach and I was semi-hardcore at the time. In no way does Nemesis lean itself toward a Star Trek audience. And even if looked at from outside the canon Nemesis is most probably on of the worst B-Movie abominations I have seen in my entire life. The only watchable Next Gen movie was First Contact and for adressing an outside audience, i'd say it shares the ranks with The Voyage Home.

I am sorry, I saw Nemesis I was sick to my stomach and I was semi-hardcore at the time. In no way does Nemesis lean itself toward a Star Trek audience. And even if looked at from outside the canon Nemesis is most probably on of the worst B-Movie abominations I have seen in my entire life. The only watchable Next Gen movie was First Contact and for adressing an outside audience, i'd say it shares the ranks with The Voyage Home.

Nemesis was a fairly decent story ruined by its execution. I do agree with the cast when they say that it was the direction that let it down big-time. The studio had a fairly short memory: yes, Johnathon Frakes directed Insurrection (which I think has more plot holes and makes less sense) but he also directed First Contact and that was a great movie. I'm not saying he would have been the best choice ever, but I do think they should have given him another chance instead of just booting him out of the director's chair. It might not lean itself towards a Star Trek audience, but I do think it was their intent to do so. And I refuse to believe it is worse than, say, Doom, or The Phantom Menace.

As for the other TNG films, Generations could in all honesty have been a two-parter for the series. They make a big thing out of this alliance between Kirk and Picard but it only appears in the last fifteen minutes. Insurrection had continuity errors and plot holes galore (IE the "I never kissed you with a beard before" scene). In all honesty, I also fail to see how 600 people all concentrated in one place, would need moving from a Federation-owned planet and why the So'Na don't just go back there without wrecking the planet. After all, they left, they weren't kicked out. It just feels pointlessly silly.

...Insurrection had continuity errors and plot holes galore (IE the "I never kissed you with a beard before" scene)...

That line is a source of a great deal of confusion in the world today. There was some disagreement about that particular scene prior to shooting. The original script included Geordi with new eye-balls and also Troi as a bearded lady. However, LeVar went for his upgrade in the film, and Marina rejected hers out of hand. But the script remained intact and so the misunderstanding exists. This is not an urban legend.

Star Trek 2009 is one major continuity error. I got more joy from reading the phone book for two hours. Next week I'll be watching some paint dry. Can't wait for that.

That line is a source of a great deal of confusion in the world today. There was some disagreement about that particular scene prior to shooting. The original script included Geordi with new eye-balls and also Troi as a bearded lady. However, LeVar went for his upgrade in the film, and Marina rejected hers out of hand. But the script remained intact and so the misunderstanding exists. This is not an urban legend.

Star Trek 2009 is one major continuity error. I got more joy from reading the phone book for two hours. Next week I'll be watching some paint dry. Can't wait for that.

I always loved watching the grass grow!

My two sons took me to see "Into Darkness" on Fathers Day and after about 30 minuets into the film I was ready to pull my cell phone out and watch an episode of TOS, but I did not want to hurt their feelings, so I swallowed my own bile and silently cried! and came to the conclusion that this movie was like the other! nothing but....Wize, Bang!! No Story and a rape of what Star Trek was! :(

So I'll just continue watching my Star Trek VHS, DVD collection and youtube videos.


Scott

I always loved watching the grass grow!

My two sons took me to see "Into Darkness" on Fathers Day and after about 30 minuets into the film I was ready to pull my cell phone out and watch an episode of TOS, but I did not want to hurt their feelings, so I swallowed my own bile and silently cried! and came to the conclusion that this movie was like the other! nothing but....Wize, Bang!! No Story and a rape of what Star Trek was! :(

So I'll just continue watching my Star Trek VHS, DVD collection and youtube videos.


Scott

I salute you, sir. You've earned a medal for endurance there.