A lot of this stuff may have been available on boots, but I'm sure the sound quality will be vastly superior. Well worth the purchase. I can't wait to get this.

From Trekmovie.com via FSM Message Board

DISC 1

THE FILM SCORE

1. Overture (1:43)
2. Main Title / Klingon Battle (7:01)
3. Total Logic (3:54)
4. Floating Office (1:08)
5. The Enterprise (6:02)
6. Malfunction (1:30)
7. Goodbye Klingon / Goodbye Epsilon Nine / Pre-Launch (2:10)
8. Leaving Drydock (3:32)
9. TV Theme / Warp Point Eight (0:50)
10. No Goodbyes (0:53)
11. Spock's Arrival (2:03)
12. TV Theme / Warp Point Nine (1:49)
13. Meet V'Ger (3:06)
14. The Cloud (5:05)
15. V'Ger Flyover (5:01)
16. The Force Field (5:07)
17. Micro Exam (1:13)
18. Games / Spock Walk (9:51)
19. System Inoperative (2:03)
20. Hidden Information (3:58)
21. Inner Workings (4:04)

TOTAL DISC 1 TIME: 72:06


DISC 2

1. V'Ger Speaks (4:04)
2. The Meld / A Good Start (5:37)
3. End Title (3:16)

TOTAL FILM SCORE TIME: 85:03


THE UNUSED EARLY SCORE

4. The Enterprise (6:05)
5. Leaving Drydock (2:39)
6. No Goodbyes (0:55)
7. Spock's Arrival (2:00)
8. Micro Exam (1:15)
9. Games (3:49)
10. Inner Workings (4:43)

TOTAL UNUSED EARLY SCORE TIME: 21:26


THE 1979 ALBUM

11. Main Title / Klingon Battle (6:50)
12. Leaving Drydock (3:29)
13. The Cloud (5:00)
14. The Enterprise (5:59)
15. Ilia's Theme (3:00)
16. Vejur Flyover (4:56)
17. The Meld (3:15)
18. Spock Walk (4:17)
19. End Title (3:16)

TOTAL 1979 ALBUM TIME: 40:02

TOTAL DISC 2 TIME: 74:31


DISC 3

ALTERNATES

1. Overture (Long Version) (2:50)
2. Main Title (Alternate Take) (1:44)
3. Total Logic (Alternate Take) (3:49)
4. Malfunction (Early Take) (1:28)
5. Goodbye Klingon (Alternate Take) (0:35)
6. No Goodbyes (Alternate Take) (0:53)
7. Spock's Arrival (Alternate Take) (2:01)
8. The Force Field (Alternate Take) (5:04)
9. Micro Exam (Alternate Take) (1:14)
10. Games (Early Synthesizer Version) (3:48)
11. Games (Alternate Take) (3:48)
12. Inner Workings (Alternate Take) (4:05)
13. V'Ger Speaks (Alternate Take) (4:03)
14. The Meld (Film Version) (3:16)
15. A Good Start (Discrete) (2:27)
16. Main Title (Album Take) (1:44)

TOTAL ALTERNATES TIME: 42:49


ADDITIONAL MUSIC

17. Main Title (First Raw Takes) (7:21)
18. The Force Field / The Cloud (Excerpts) (2:33)
19. Beams and Synthesizer for V'ger (4:04)
20. Beams and Synthesizer for Ilia (0:59)
21. Synthesizer for Main Theme (1:44)
22. Main Theme From Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Bob James) (5:24)
23. A Star Beyond Time (Shaun Cassidy) (2:43)
24. Ilia's Theme (Alternate) (3:33)
25. Theme From Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Concert Edit) (3:25)

TOTAL ADDITIONAL MUSIC TIME: 31:46


TOTAL DISC 3 TIME: 74:35


GRAND TOTAL TIME: 3:41:13

Fascinating. It may be too soon to ask, but for those who are planning to buy the triple-disc set of Jerry Goldsmith's score to Star Trek: The Motion Picture: May I ask whoever would recieve on a shipping day to e-mail a download link to the complete triple-disc score? That way, I could save time and money. Thank you very much indeed. Live long and prosper. \\//

I know that the Intrada cover is different and I think the back cover too. The linernotes are the same like the LLL-version, but the grafiks are the same too?

That can be answered only by someone who has bought the Intrada release... Your guess is as good as mine. If I had to speculate, I would say the interior probably is the same. It's a 24-page booklet with a marvelous layout, about 20 movie stills, and I don't see a reason for Intrada to re-arrange the content of the booklet. But as I said, your guess is as good as mine...

Soundtrekker, DUDE! Thanks for those scans, they are really sharp and clean. Better than anything I have found on the net!

Just TOO great! :)

Thanks again, William

That can be answered only by someone who has bought the Intrada release... Your guess is as good as mine. If I had to speculate, I would say the interior probably is the same. It's a 24-page booklet with a marvelous layout, about 20 movie stills, and I don't see a reason for Intrada to re-arrange the content of the booklet. But as I said, your guess is as good as mine...

They explained that the actual liner note text is the same, as is the music, but the artwork was changed slightly to match the other Intrada /FSM Trek scores, because the LLL release did not match up with those releases, it sort of stuck out with a different design.

So people want the Intrada artwork not only for completeness sake, but also conformity because it will make the release blend in as a complete collection. That's actually why some are buying the album, just for that revised artwork.

They explained that the actual liner note text is the same, as is the music, but the artwork was changed slightly to match the other Intrada /FSM Trek scores, because the LLL release did not match up with those releases, it sort of stuck out with a different design.

So people want the Intrada artwork not only for completeness sake, but also conformity because it will make the release blend in as a complete collection. That's actually why some are buying the album, just for that revised artwork.
No offense, but that's a horrible idea. If you have the LLL version, and you want the Intrada version, you have it. The Intrada only has 3 revised pieces of artwork (front cover, back cover, and the track list on the back).
Don't give me a reason for "completeness sake", because your just wasting your money. The Intrada version is only for people who didn't get the OST in time because it sold out. LLL's version is the rarer one. It's like saying you want the same comic book you already have, even though the cover is the same and it only has new labels on it. It's a waste of money. Simple as taht. Also, about the soundtrack sticking out - my star trek CD collection has many different artworks/covers and they all basically stand out between one another. It's just something you have to deal with.

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sorry, double post

No offense, but that's a horrible idea. If you have the LLL version, and you want the Intrada version, you have it. The Intrada only has 3 revised pieces of artwork (front cover, back cover, and the track list on the back).
Don't give me a reason for "completeness sake", because your just wasting your money. The Intrada version is only for people who didn't get the OST in time because it sold out. LLL's version is the rarer one. It's like saying you want the same comic book you already have, even though the cover is the same and it only has new labels on it. It's a waste of money. Simple as taht. Also, about the soundtrack sticking out - my star trek CD collection has many different artworks/covers and they all basically stand out between one another. It's just something you have to deal with.


"No Offense", but I was explaining the reason why people want that artwork.

I don't have a personal stake in it - I wasn't speaking for myself.

I was speaking as someone who has seen time and again, people who WILL INDEED BUY a re-release of an album, or in far more common cases, a DVD or Blu-ray release JUST for new artwork because the 'collector' in them overrides the redundant aspect of buying the same thing in a new package. The collector doesn't care about wasting money, even though that's pretty much what it is just for a sense of uniformity on a bookshelf of albums or movies or TV shows.

Don't believe me? Ask George Lucas why he repackages "Star Wars" in one case after another, first with 6 or 7 VHS releases, all the same except for artwork, and did the same about 3 times on DVD. Fans bought them up all the time.

Repackaged DVDs and Blu-rays is an old business practice. This Intrada release is no different in that sense aside from offering people who didn't get the LLL version a chance to pick it up.

Does anyone have the La La for ST V ?

Don't believe me? Ask George Lucas why he repackages "Star Wars" in one case after another, first with 6 or 7 VHS releases, all the same except for artwork, and did the same about 3 times on DVD. Fans bought them up all the time.

Thats not entirely true, sometimes there were changes: Episode IV added into the crawl, new colouring, different sound mix, etc.

Thats not entirely true, sometimes there were changes: Episode IV added into the crawl, new colouring, different sound mix, etc.

The "A New Hope" was added before there was a VHS release of the film.

The point is, people buy re-packaged stuff all the time, just because it's re-packaged.

link flac?

link flac?

If you were asking me about the 3-disc Jerry Goldsmith score to Star Trek: The Motion Picture, I prefer .rar file, extracted into MP3 files.

HD isn't necessary. It depends were you're sitting. For example: If you have a 42" TV set and you're sitting 3-4 meters from the screen there's no difference in quality. That's why I'm sticking to DVD at least for now.

I generally agree, but if I'd live in a NTSC region I'd surely switch to BluRay.

HD isn't necessary. It depends were you're sitting. For example: If you have a 42" TV set and you're sitting 3-4 meters from the screen there's no difference in quality. That's why I'm sticking to DVD at least for now.

I have a 42" TV set and I usually sit 4 meters from the screen and there is a HUGE difference in quality. I avoid watching SD material there, because it looks really, really bad.
HD is a revelation!

HD isn't necessary. It depends were you're sitting. For example: If you have a 42" TV set and you're sitting 3-4 meters from the screen there's no difference in quality. That's why I'm sticking to DVD at least for now.

Or you could sit a bit further away and stick with VHS. :)


Anyway... did anyone actually go to the CD launch event? I would have liked to but being on a different continent made it awkward.

I have a 42" TV set and I usually sit 4 meters from the screen and there is a HUGE difference in quality. I avoid watching SD material there, because it looks really, really bad.
HD is a revelation!
Funny thing because I have the same size of a TV set and it looks really good...
HD is overrated.

I would love an mp3 encode of the awaited 3CD ST:TMP?

Lalaland stuff never reaches my country and I don't trust the international postal system, sorry :-(

Funny thing because I have the same size of a TV set and it looks really good...
HD is overrated.

I guess it depends on your equipment (720p or 1080p TV, etc.) and (even more importantly) on one's standards.

You're right. It depends on a lot of factors. TV set, scaling, lighting, distance, eyes and as you noted - what one is satisfied with ;)

Yes please post TMP - though folks, please put the money into actually purchasing the album to support those who put together this magnificent (by all reports) restoration and package!

I'm just impatient in waiting for mine to come in the mail.

I'm looking for Jeff Bond's The Music of Star Trek scans in PDF. Anyone ?

I'm looking for Jeff Bond's The Music of Star Trek scans in PDF. Anyone ?

I have the "The Music Of Star Trek
Performed By The City Of Progue
Philharmonic Orchistra" 2009
SILCD1289
PDF

I have the "The Music Of Star Trek
Performed By The City Of Progue
Philharmonic Orchistra" 2009
SILCD1289
PDF

It's a book, not a CD:
Amazon.com: The Music of Star Trek (9781580650120): Jeff Bond: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Music-Star-Trek-Jeff-Bond/dp/1580650120/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339120585&sr=8-1)

Here is 'The Music of Star Trek' book in a PDF file: Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362142707/The_Music_of_Star_Trek.pdf.html)

On a related note i received the shipping confirmation of TMP 3CD.

Thank you!

Here is 'The Music of Star Trek' book in a PDF file: Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362142707/The_Music_of_Star_Trek.pdf.html)

On a related note i received the shipping confirmation of TMP 3CD.

Great ! Thank you so much !

Thanks for that, Sanico!

Well my TMP 3CD has shipped today. Can't wait for it to come in the mail.

Well my TMP 3CD has shipped today. Can't wait for it to come in the mail.

I think you will like it it's a well done set.

wow... are they on pink alert?

Here is 'The Music of Star Trek' book in a PDF file: Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362142707/The_Music_of_Star_Trek.pdf.html)

On a related note i received the shipping confirmation of TMP 3CD.

PDF made my day thanks for the up Sanico!!!!!!!

Mine arrived a day or two ago, It's a great job. The booklet was really full of "fascinating" tidbits. Nerds like me would read a WHOLE BOOK of stuff like this.

Now I wonder if anybody has the time & inclination to compare this release with the various boots of sessions, etc and come up with a list of stuff on the boots that are NOT covered here.

BTW my comp of various TREK themes is still at my music blog, including the Now Sound Orchestra's version of "A Star Beyond Time" with a female vocalist and slightly different lyrics.

Spock�s Record Round-Up: MA-02 - TREKonometry (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/2012/02/ma-02-trekonometry.html)

I'm surprised no one has uploaded the 3CD TMP yet.

I'm surprised no one has uploaded the 3CD TMP yet.

Maybe we should let La La Land sell as many of those 10,000 copies as they can first.

That would be the nice thing to do.

Understandable. Plus Mine has shipped so I'm all "SET" for this 3CD "SET".......................... Yeah that was a bad joke.

Does anyone have the official First Contact Limited Edition in flac? If so, I'd really love to get my hand sona copy, cheers!!

since they've had to hold off on shipping out orders because they've sold half of the 10000 copy print run and need to have the rest duplicated, i don't think anyone needs to worry about them failing to sell their stock

they announced today it would be 2 weeks or so before the more recent orders ship

Mine arrived a day or two ago, It's a great job. The booklet was really full of "fascinating" tidbits. Nerds like me would read a WHOLE BOOK of stuff like this.

Now I wonder if anybody has the time & inclination to compare this release with the various boots of sessions, etc and come up with a list of stuff on the boots that are NOT covered here.

BTW my comp of various TREK themes is still at my music blog, including the Now Sound Orchestra's version of "A Star Beyond Time" with a female vocalist and slightly different lyrics.

Spock’s Record Round-Up: MA-02 - TREKonometry (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/2012/02/ma-02-trekonometry.html)

Fascinating, indeed. Say, if your copy of the 3-Disc score of Star Trek: The Motion Picture have arrived. Can you, at your convenience (despite the fact that I cannot wait to hear the entire score), upload the entire 3-disc score (track-by-track) into any upload site and post that link to this forum, please, in MP3? That would be appreciative.

Sorry, I only share stuff that's not for sale. I bet somebody else will do that soon, though.
-- Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock’s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

Could you atleast upload the End Credits? :P

Could you atleast upload the End Credits? :P

Can't wait to hear what the final track of the final disc of the complete score (the concert edit) sounds like....at least.

cuando lo suben en lossles, asi veo si es bueno y lo compro

Lossless no es necessario.

es que necesito verificar al 100% y tiene que ser lossless

Can't wait to hear what the final track of the final disc of the complete score (the concert edit) sounds like....at least.

That track is just an edit using two cues:

Main Title, from the start until 46 seconds in.

From there it's the End Title, from 37 seconds on until the end.

Anyone can recreate it using existing albums.

OK. I'll keep that in mind.

I got a shipping confirmation for mine 3 hours after I ordered, which was 4 minutes after it went up on the site. I'm clear across the continent, and in Canada (*shakes fist @ customs*), but it will hopefully arrive by the end of this week. I'm dying to hear it, but hoping to NOT see it online until LLL sells out.

The La-La Land TMP is aural bliss. It sounds far superior to the previous Sony album and is light years better than the "Deluxe Edition" that was uploaded here a while back, not to mention the awesome design of the packaging and liner notes. It's truly a special release, well worth the money, and I also think it shouldn't be shared until it sells out, at least not in lossless.

Fascinating.

Sorry I have to this, so please forgive me, but here is the link that WildwoodPark gave to me in his PM to me:

Are you sure that's such a good idea? I'm betting he gave it to you in a PM for a reason. I'll let you figure it out.

I'm sure. I'm sorry I had to do this. Please forgive me! Please don't be kick be out of the forum for good! Please!

LOL @ "had to"

There is no 'had to' on here. You had a choice, and you chose to post. I doubt this will hurt LLL's sales, to be honest, but it's still disappointing that it's been posted so quickly.

Not gonna download this, waiting for my copy to arrive. I can endure the agony of the wait.

Thanks for the share, but it's really not a good idea to share links that are sent via PM. They're called Private Messages for a reason. Things like this might make Wildwood Park (or others) not want to share, even through PMs.

I am so sorry. Please forgive me.

Don't apologize to me. Apologize to Wildwood Park, he's the one who sent you the private link.

Look, I don't hold anything against you personally. After all, the whole point of this forum is to share music. But you have to understand that some people (especially Wildwood) prefer to share music privately as opposed to publicly. Usually when someone sends me a link via PM, they ask that I not share it publicly, and I always abide by that. If someone who bought the CD wants to publicly share it with the rest of the group, then they're more than welcome to do that.

Okay. My apologies to WildwoodPark. Hope WildwoodPark forgives me.

Okay. My apologies to WildwoodPark. Hope WildwoodPark forgives me.

How about removing the link until Wildwoodpark says it's ok? A "please forgive me" isn't worth all that much if you don't try to correct what was wrong... ;)

No one can hear you scream in outer space.

You had to do that huh? what a jerk, I sent you a link privately and you not only mention that fact within the forum, but you have the nerve to post my actual direct link.

Every once in awhile it would be nice to be a Moderator on this forum.

You can remove the link now, it's no longer a valid link and it may be confusing to folks when they click it and its states the file does not exist.

In the UK we'd use the term gobshite...

OK, I removed the link. I am so sorry, Wildwood. Please forgive me! Oh, and no need for name-calling.

OK, I removed the link. I am so sorry, Wildwood. Please forgive me! Oh, and no need for name-calling.

Considering that you completely violated his trust and, despite admitting as such and "apologizing" for hours on end, not having the decency to remedy your offense until it was done for you, I'd say you got off easy being called a jerk. The fact that you then chastise your victim for such a mild rebuke indicates that you're deserving of far more colorful invectives.

Considering that you completely violated his trust and, despite admitting as such and "apologizing" for hours on end, not having the decency to remedy your offense until it was done for you, I'd say you got off easy being called a jerk. The fact that you then chastise your victim for such a mild rebuke indicates that you're deserving of far more colorful invectives.

Now, please don't be hard on me, for I am mildly-disabled and autistic. What I said is no nonsense at all.

Now, please don't be hard on me, for I am mildly-disabled and autistic. What I said is no nonsense at all.

So are you saying that because of your medical condition you cannot be expected to be trustworthy ?.

Well, I was diagnosed with Aspberger's disease, but I have been overcoming my mild disability. What I meant to say is that I just wanted people to treat me the way I want to be treated. Yes, I too am treating you and others the way you and your want to be treated.

Ehhh... no?

Well, I was diagnosed with Aspberger's disease, but I have been overcoming my mild disability. What I meant to say is that I just wanted people to treat me the way I want to be treated. Yes, I too am treating you and others the way you and your want to be treated.
What does that have to do with anything? You basically violated his trust, and made him delete the link, making alot of people angry, and then you just want to have everyone act like it never happened? No way. Your apologies are not accepted. Sorry, but that's how it is.

I DID NOT make make him delete the link. I cannot believe no one forgave me! I cannot believe that my apologies are rejected! Please forgive me! :( This thread remains open, but to close this discussion on the incident for good: my apologies for my rudeness. Hope you forgive me. End of discussion. Let's wait for the download link.

Sorry to hijack this thread, only just found it ... does anyone have a reupload of the Trek Movie sound effects please? Would love those (mainly to be geeky and make them iPhone text tones!)

Thanks

I would so greatly appreciate it if you could PM me the link to your upload of TMP. Please let me knwo if there is anythign youa re looking for and if I don't have it, I will do my best to find it for you. Thanks!!!!

I wouldn't mind having the new TMP Album by La la Land Records

I wouldn't mind having the new TMP Album by La la Land Records

ditto

Pobably the reason why Woody sent the link via PM. To avoid all of the inevitable requests that will now swamp this thread and his in box. Not for nothing, but I too deal with issues, and I still know better than to share a private link.

Probably (Spell Corrected) the reason why Woody sent the link via PM. To avoid all of the inevitable requests that will now swamp this thread and his in box. Not for nothing, but I too deal with issues, and I still know better than to share a private link.

Love it when you call me "Woody"

I wouldn't mind having the new TMP Album by La la Land Records

Me neither. THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT IT
--Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock’s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

Love it when you call me "Woody"


Just home from the hospital, and pumped full of narcotics, so I am happy the sentence even made sense. (and yes, if as a zombified doped up person, I know better than to share a private link.) But, if ya don't want me to call you that, then I won't.....

The liner notes for the set are actually fairly interesting. I was surprised.

Amanda, glad you're back home. :)

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Me neither. THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT IT
--Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock’s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

Caps lock broken? I hate it when that happens.

Just home from the hospital, and pumped full of narcotics, so I am happy the sentence even made sense. (and yes, if as a zombified doped up person, I know better than to share a private link.) But, if ya don't want me to call you that, then I won't.....

The liner notes for the set are actually fairly interesting. I was surprised.

No Woody is fine if you were calling me Soggy I might have a problem with that.

... for those already in possession (in whichever form) of the new L� edition of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, I combined "The Meld (film version, discrete)" with "The Meld/A Good Start". This is the version I prefer because I am a beam afficionado. ;)


melt away (http://minus.com/lykgqjmRJzWtx)

Got mine today, surprised because I am in England and expected a long long wait. Sounds wonderful of course. Bit baffled by inclusion of the extra cover at first. :)

Could I kindly request if anyone has uploaded the La-La-Land version of STTMP if they could PM me a download link ..... Extremely appreciated if anyone can help me.

Thanks ~ HJ

Come on, guys! "You don't have to be mean, there's no reason to be mean" (Buckeroo Banzai)

"Be EXCELLENT to each other, AND....


Party on, Dudes!" (Bill and Ted)

These are truly words of wisdom, guys! Lets all be a little nicer, and follow the direction of the great bird of the galaxy, Gene Roddenberry!

We can all follow in his footsteps, making ourselves and our lives a little bit better for all concerned.

PLEASE!

William

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Love it when you call me "Woody"


Just don't call me "Willie", okay?


Hehehehe :)

William

Could I kindly request if anyone has uploaded the La-La-Land version of STTMP if they could PM me a download link ..... Extremely appreciated if anyone can help me.

Thanks ~ HJ

edited as I found out

I'm probably being stupid but why was it included?

Not too sure what you mean....

Why all the stress? The new album will surely be posted soon enough. Almost guarantee that.

Why all the stress? The new album will surely be posted soon enough. Almost guarantee that.

Yeah I follow, just keen to hear it, love the take #1 & #2 of the main title theme, heard the "bootleg" versions knocking about with dodgy stereo, but can't wait to hear the entire thing in clear stereo, very loud on my iPod!

Me too. I found liner notes on line to read, but I do not have the album yet. I am patient, I can wait...

Most of my top film scores have been re-released in the last 2 years and this is one I've been waiting a long time for. As a sound designer/composer myself I find that first disc a thing of beauty! It is one of the best examples of remastering of an original film score I've ever heard. There is some clipping in the left speaker at about 2:05 in Meet V'Ger but I think this is a result from recording rather than a fault in the mastering process. Those raw orchestral excerpts of the Main Theme, The Force Field and The Cloud on disc 3 are wonderful to listen to. If only Craig Huxley played the Beam at the demo rather than just thwacking the thing! :-)

Can't wait to order my copy of the TMP expanded soundtrack...blasted paycheck cant come fast enough....

Taste of the new TMP set:
Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150032/17-Main_Title_(First_Raw_Takes).mp3.html)

The booklet is very informative but how long has "motive" been the American spelling of "motif"?!? Not seen that one before. I'm surprised how something so trivial can be so damn annoying when you read it twelve times in as many minutes. :)

The booklet is very informative but how long has "motive" been the American spelling of "motif"?!? Not seen that one before. I'm surprised how something so trivial can be so damn annoying when you read it twelve times in as many minutes. :)
Yes, it's somewhat irritating indeed, but according to my dictionary, motive can indeed have the same meaning as motif. I didn't know that either, and personally, I'd always prefer "motif", it reminds me of the German term "Leitmotiv", which, basically, was made popular in the 19th century by Richard Wagner. I even saw the word leitmotiv used in English textes; there is no translation for it in the English language!

The wrong words are used on this forum all the time, and often by those for whom english is their first language.

Hear, and here for instance both sound the same but mean something completely different. I've seen those mixed here more than once.

The wrong words are used on this forum all the time, and often by those for whom english is their first language.

Hear, and here for instance both sound the same but mean something completely different. I've seen those mixed here more than once.

The worst one IMO is when people write "should of" or "could of" instead of "should've" and "could've". They just type how the word sounds but what they are typing makes no sense; "I should of known", "We could of made it". Drives me mad but it is so common.

My English teacher used to use Star Trek to explain what split infinitives were. There, almost back on topic.

Amanda is right it is already out there on another site!

Hi. I just got my copy this morning. LaLaLand has done a great job in remastering this beautiful. All the blaster effects have a powerful feel to them compared to all the other ST TMP soundtracks that I heard.

Here are some links to the Flac copy of the soundtrack. I have no plans to re-upload the files in the event that they are pulled, so grab them while you can.

Conceder this an incentive to buy the soundtrack if you enjoy it.

The password is “rectorium”.

Now I really need to get some rest.


Disc 1 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150021/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150113/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150184/Columbus3.rar.html)

Disc 1 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18295184/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297641/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297947/Columbus3.rar.html)

Amanda is right it is already out there on another site!

I didn't know there were indeed "other" sites, you learn something every day.

My copy of TMP 3CD will be delivered today.

EDIT: I'm listening to it right now. It sounds so awesome.

Hi. I just got my copy this morning. LaLaLand has done a great job in remastering this beautiful. All the blaster effects have a powerful feel to them compared to all the other ST TMP soundtracks that I heard.

Here are some links to the Flac copy of the soundtrack. I have no plans to re-upload the files in the event that they are pulled, so grab them while you can.

Conceder this an incentive to buy the soundtrack if you enjoy it.

The password is “rectorium”.

Now I really need to get some rest.


Disc 1 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150021/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150113/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150184/Columbus3.rar.html)

Disc 1 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18295184/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297641/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297947/Columbus3.rar.html)

Thanks hyppycrud :)

Superb, got the download, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanx for sharing, hyppycrud!

Hi. I just got my copy this morning. LaLaLand has done a great job in remastering this beautiful. All the blaster effects have a powerful feel to them compared to all the other ST TMP soundtracks that I heard.

Here are some links to the Flac copy of the soundtrack. I have no plans to re-upload the files in the event that they are pulled, so grab them while you can.

Conceder this an incentive to buy the soundtrack if you enjoy it.

The password is “rectorium”.

Now I really need to get some rest.


Disc 1 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150021/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150113/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150184/Columbus3.rar.html)

Disc 1 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18295184/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297641/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297947/Columbus3.rar.html)

Many, many thanks for posting this gem!

Awesome Awesome thanks, Hyppy!

Thanks for sharing hyppycrud. I always enjoy the TMP soundtrack in all its releases :)

Too cool, Dude, great share, Thanks

William

I am very happy that TMP was released in complete form.

Anyone have the complete scans from this Big-Box?

Mega THX in advance!!!

Thanks, hyppycrud.

Got my TMP today. Slowwwww shipping La-La Land, cmon! At least give people an incentive to buy rather than pirate, in the form of getting to listen to the music first.

For some reason I got the shrinkwrapped jewel case, along with another printout of the front cover. Was there a printing error? Or did they give us 2 covers just for fun?

Anyone remember the post where some guy got some really good HQ source for "Captain's Log / Warp Drive" and "System Inoperative / Hidden Information"?
I compared those versions against the ones on the LLL album, and the LLL ones seemed inferior with far more hiss. Thoughts anyone?

Edit: found it:
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/star-trek-motion-picture-jerry-goldsmith-expanded-95746/2.html#post1795482
Filename was JG-STTMP-extras.zip on megaupload apparently.

Keevan, thanks for all that you do, your the best.

I would like to make a perfect request: May I ask whoever owns The Big Book of Movie Music - 2nd Edition to upload and download the eight-page piano transcription of the Jerry Goldsmith-composed theme music from Star Trek: The Motion Picture in PDF form?

Thank you very much indeed. Live long and prosper! \\//

Quoting Penny Parker: "The booklet is very informative but how long has "motive" been the American spelling of "motif"?!? Not seen that one before. I'm surprised how something so trivial can be so damn annoying when you read it twelve times in as many minutes."

Agreed. As a Canadian who's been living in the states since 1986, I don't believe most North Americans treat the word "motif" ever as "motive" – had to have been the writer thinking it was correct, incorrectly.

I compared those versions against the ones on the LLL album, and the LLL ones seemed inferior with far more hiss. Thoughts anyone

La La Land seem to remaster soundtracks by keeping as close to the original recording material as possible so we get as little degradation as possible and a good quality final product. This is what I prefer. It doesn't matter how good your hiss/noise reductions tools are, if you remove anything from the recording you will loose definition as you are also removing any audio in the same removed frequencies. Look at it this way... Would you rather have a good quality score with some hiss and wide open soundstage where you can hear every little nuance, or an over processed remastering where most of the hiss is gone as has the openness and any sound in the removed frequencies? ;-)

For some reason I got the shrinkwrapped jewel case, along with another printout of the front cover. Was there a printing error? Or did they give us 2 covers just for fun?


The original cover has a printing error, on the spine it says "music friom ...."

I am such a "Doofus" sometimes. Everytime that I look at the track listing for STTMP, and I see "V'ger flyover" I always think that it says "V'ger Flower"!!
Weird, huh? Hehehehe

William

Could be worst, the other album has it named as Vejur Flyover. :P

muchas gracias

could some share a Hi-Res copy of the Cover Scan that has the corrected "Music From The Original Soundtrack" spelling?
Please

could some share a Hi-Res copy of the Cover Scan that has the corrected "Music From The Original Soundtrack" spelling?
Please

Cover of the La-La-Land edition (1625x1429):

STTMP Cover.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/vMRKrWke/STTMP_Cover.html)

Thank You soundtrekker But I mean the "Inlay Cover" in the outer case, the replacement corrected scan supplied. A 600dpi would be really nice :)

Cover of the La-La-Land edition (1625x1429):

STTMP Cover.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/vMRKrWke/STTMP_Cover.html)


hmmmmm...I think *Spectre Gadget* meant the BACK cover, because the lettering on the side is *Music FRIOM The Original Soundtrack*...that�s wrong. ;-)

But it�s very cool, if you can shared complete scans ;-) friom ;-) booklet and covers. :-D

THX in advance.

Thank You soundtrekker But I mean the "Inlay Cover" in the outer case, the replacement corrected scan supplied. A 600dpi would be really nice :)

Sorry, my fault - this should be what you're looking for: ;-)

Star Trek the Motion Picture (LaLaLand 2012): Inlay Cover (1787x1421)

STTMP_Inlay.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/WXzd9EcV/STTMP_Inlay.html)

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... and here, as per request, the complete booklet:

Ilia.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/vcxJpEQJ/Ilia.html)

Interesting reading, btw! Jeff Bond - 'nuff said!

Thanks FilmScoreFan. Anyone else getting an "unexpected end of archive" error when they extract these?

Au revoir,

G

Very Cool, Thanks so much!

Thanks FilmScoreFan. Anyone else getting an "unexpected end of archive" error when they extract these?

Au revoir,

G

FilmScoreFan didn't upload the files, that was hyppycrud a few posts earlier. ;)

To answer your question: The archives were okay on my side, so you should download them again.

Should others have the same problem, I would upload the 3 CD's again (in flac) - just give me a note!

I've downloaded them fully twice and from different sources. Tried 7zip and WinRar, to no avail. also tried to repair. I will PM you if you are willing to upload. I will also try extracting on another PC.

And...thanks to hyppycrud.

Ciao,

B


FilmScoreFan didn't upload the files, that was hyppycrud a few posts earlier. ;)

To answer your question: The archives were okay on my side, so you should download them again.

Should others have the same problem, I would upload the 3 CD's again (in flac) - just give me a note!

I've downloaded them fully twice and from different sources. Tried 7zip and WinRar, to no avail. also tried to repair. I will PM you if you are willing to upload. I will also try extracting on another PC.

And...thanks to hyppycrud.

Ciao,

B

That's really odd, especially since you're the only one who is reporting this. Logic dictates, the reason for your difficulties must be some technical glitch on your PC, at least until someone else is reporting the same problem!

Awaiting your p.m.

I DL'd without any problems extracting.

I didn't download but I'm sure I would have had no problems.

I would bet my Grandmothers body that Wildwood is 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent correct with and error of 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001% or better. in fact I would bet my dead dogs body that he's 100.1% correct.

crap! I'm almost out of bodys.

Can't wait to hear this!

Thank you indeed!

@hyppycrud: Thanks for the preview of this release.

@wbteeple002: Had no problems with dl and unrar. The archives seem to be ok.

Could not wait until my copy arrives, so I downloaded the whole package, burned it to CD and listen to it just in all his glory. Ah, thank you LLL and thank you Mr. Goldsmith. This music of Goldsmith is a wonderful gift to the world.

Sorry, my fault - this should be what you're looking for: ;-)

Star Trek the Motion Picture (LaLaLand 2012): Inlay Cover (1787x1421)

STTMP_Inlay.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/WXzd9EcV/STTMP_Inlay.html)

---------- Post added at 09:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 AM ----------

... and here, as per request, the complete booklet:

Ilia.rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/vcxJpEQJ/Ilia.html)

Interesting reading, btw! Jeff Bond - 'nuff said!

WOOOOOOOOW great stuff and MEGA-THX soundtrekker.

Now still I need the complete scans for INTRADA�s release of STAR TREK V ;-)

If anyone have this, shared please.

Where are the recording sessions of STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT?

Thanks hyppycrud! Awesome. And where'd you find peejeshare? I think Mediafire may have met it's match.

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Thanks for uploading the booklet, soundtrekker!!

Where are James Horner's STAR TREK II alternate score themes with William Shatner (space... the final frontier...)?

Could be worst, the other album has it named as Vejur Flyover. :P

This is because in the Roddenberry novelization (and on the Goldsmith soundtrack LP), it is spelled VEJUR not V'GER. The source for this may be Roddenberry, and then Goldsmith taking it from the Great Bird.

Does anybody know if the "original" Alan Dean Foster script (or the other ones) spelled it VEJUR or V'GER?

My guess is that the VEJUR spelling comes from the idea that Kirk or whoever, on hearing the name for the first time, might have spelled it VEJUR. How would a listener know that the sound was an abbreviation of something longer, and thus it required an apostrophe?

Simply because my first exposure in print was to the Roddenberry novelization and to the soundtrack LP, VEJUR seems more "authentic" to me. But that's just a feeling.

(And that simple feeling is beyond Vejur's/V'Ger's comprehension.)

Lois Lane, beware of Greeks baring gifts....

STAR TREK FIRST CONTACT RECORDING SESSIONS VBR-0:

Thread 99533

This is because in the Roddenberry novelization (and on the Goldsmith soundtrack LP), it is spelled VEJUR not V'GER. The source for this may be Roddenberry, and then Goldsmith taking it from the Great Bird.

Does anybody know if the "original" Alan Dean Foster script (or the other ones) spelled it VEJUR or V'GER?

My guess is that the VEJUR spelling comes from the idea that Kirk or whoever, on hearing the name for the first time, might have spelled it VEJUR. How would a listener know that the sound was an abbreviation of something longer, and thus it required an apostrophe?

Simply because my first exposure in print was to the Roddenberry novelization and to the soundtrack LP, VEJUR seems more "authentic" to me. But that's just a feeling.

(And that simple feeling is beyond Vejur's/V'Ger's comprehension.)
Woah, I never knew that.. I gotta read my copy of the ST:TMP novel. It sounds much better than the actual movie...

Woah, I never knew that.. I gotta read my copy of the ST:TMP novel. It sounds much better than the actual movie...

Well, it's pretty interesting. There's some "slash" fuel when Roddenberry puts in a footnote that the Vulcan word Spock uses for Kirk can mean "super-close friend" or "lover." Also you can really tell that Roddenberry believes in the perfectability of the human being.

That belief is a pretty naive viewpoint in my opinion. As I often say to other people who also have to work with the public, "If you don't believe in original sin, you've never had to sweep up a parking lot!" -- In other words, people are just NASTY sometimes.

But yep, Roddenberry's book (which I believe MAY have been at least partially ghosted by Alan Dean Foster) is, to quote Popeye and not Spock, FAS-kinatin'.

Mark Alfred
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock’s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

Thanks.

Fresh from La-La Land:


"Also, we will be discussing some of our upcoming soundtrack releases, including USED CARS music by Patrick Williams with unused music by Ernest Gold, GREEN LANTERN: THE ANIMATED SERIES music by Frederik Wiedmann, STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE (4-CD SET) music by various composers, THE BODYGUARD music by Alan Silvestri and BLACK RAIN (2-CD SET) music by Hans Zimmer."

Fresh from La-La Land:


"Also, we will be discussing some of our upcoming soundtrack releases, including USED CARS music by Patrick Williams with unused music by Ernest Gold, GREEN LANTERN: THE ANIMATED SERIES music by Frederik Wiedmann, STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE (4-CD SET) music by various composers, THE BODYGUARD music by Alan Silvestri and BLACK RAIN (2-CD SET) music by Hans Zimmer."
*heartattack*
(3rd one today! LOL)

Is there an expanded score from Star Trek "Generations" ?

None that I've ever seen - official or otherwise.

Dennis McCarthy did say something about a 2-CD Generations score, if I recall correctly.

Dennis McCarthy did say something about a 2-CD Generations score, if I recall correctly.

Hope so ... lots of good music in the movie ... it could do with an expanded score ....

Where did Dennis say that? Did you see it online or something? He would have NO SAY one way or the other regarding any releases on that, it would be up to the studio, and as far as I know, Paramount has no plans in the next year to do anything on "Generations". I just spoke to my friend Pete over at Paramount regarding any upcoming music situations on Wednesday, and he says that there is nothing in the works. I will touch bases with him next week and see if Dennis is speaking thru his hat (again) regarding any music on this.

William

sounds like ... the odds are against it and the situation is grim ... :(

I have absolutely no doubt "Generations" will be out before the end of the year. None.

Generations, Nemesis, and Insurrections, all 3 expanded scores we need to complete our amazing collection..

Where did Dennis say that? Did you see it online or something? He would have NO SAY one way or the other regarding any releases on that, it would be up to the studio, and as far as I know, Paramount has no plans in the next year to do anything on "Generations". I just spoke to my friend Pete over at Paramount regarding any upcoming music situations on Wednesday, and he says that there is nothing in the works. I will touch bases with him next week and see if Dennis is speaking thru his hat (again) regarding any music on this.

William

Yes, by all means, check with your friend Pete at Paramount. Bad form for anyone to speak thru their hat.

Everything I've heard is a "DS9" 4 cd set, published by La La Land Records in the near future.

I didn't pull Generation 2-CD out of my butt, i heard it from this thread myself.

I didn't pull Generation 2-CD out of my butt, i heard it from this thread myself.

2CD's would be odd. Minus the sound effects library on the old GNP, there's about 44 minutes of score. The unreleased music, including alternate film versions, is about 23 minutes.

That's 67 minutes total for the complete score.

I know the End Credits music was original the opening credits and they moved it, so I would speculate there's an Ed Credits cue we've never heard. The End Credits in the film runs about 3:30 (approximated). That would then be 70:30 total CD time.

I'm not sure how they are going to fill two CD's unless he recorded score for deleted orbital diving scenes, and there's alternate cues worthy of a CD, and demos. That's the only way then.

2CD's would be odd. Minus the sound effects library on the old GNP, there's about 44 minutes of score. The unreleased music, including alternate film versions, is about 23 minutes.

That's 67 minutes total for the complete score.

I know the End Credits music was original the opening credits and they moved it, so I would speculate there's an Ed Credits cue we've never heard. The End Credits in the film runs about 3:30 (approximated). That would then be 70:30 total CD time.

I'm not sure how they are going to fill two CD's unless he recorded score for deleted orbital diving scenes, and there's alternate cues worthy of a CD, and demos. That's the only way then.

I would speculate they would throw the original release on disc 2 (same as FSM did with ST3:TSFS). Would be rather pointless, though.

Everything I've heard is a "DS9" 4 cd set, published by La La Land Records in the near future.

THAT would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So far all of the original series cast movies and First Contact have their complete scores released. I have no doubt that not only Generations but also Insurrection and Nemesis, will also have their complete scores released too.
It's not a question of "if" but more of "who and when" we will see them released.

About the rumours of Generations complete score, they were spreaded here first:



http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=88836&archive=0

I didn't pull Generation 2-CD out of my butt, i heard it from this thread myself.

I never said that, SteamSFC, I was only saying that IF Dennis was talking thru his hat!

Isn't also funny, that when we start to talk about future projects, all the TROLLS come out of their holes? simply amazing!

William

I never said that, SteamSFC, I was only saying that IF Dennis was talking thru his hat!

Isn't also funny, that when we start to talk about future projects, all the TROLLS come out of their holes? simply amazing!

William

???

i would guess a second generations disc would consist of alternates, outtakes and album versions from the '94 release

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So far all of the original series cast movies and First Contact have their complete scores released. I have no doubt that not only Generations but also Insurrection and Nemesis, will also have their complete scores released too.
It's not a question of "if" but more of "who and when" we will see them released.

About the rumours of Generations complete score, they were spreaded here first:



http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=88836&archive=0

i wish other franchises' soundtracks were getting this much attention

by other franchises, i'm basically talking about 007 :laugh:

Well guys, I’ve just got the complete soundtrack to Star Trek First Contact from GNP Crescendo. I’ve upped the Flac version for those who want a quick demo before making the purchasing decision. And I do recommend that you buy it if you like it.

The password is "simurgh".

Complete Disc Flac Encoded (peejshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/363224160/Simurgh.rar.html)
Complete Disc Flac Encoded (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/22681021/Simurgh.rar.html)

???

Benuit, I was just saying that I never said that SteamSFC had pulled the "Generations" 2 cd topic out of his ass! And I was NOT calling you a troll! Not with 414 posts to your credit!

William

While I am looking forward to a complete version of Generations as I am a completist, the overall music of the film was somewhat underwhelming. There were some great and powerful moments of music in the film, but in my opinion, Dennis McCarthy fails to capture the wonder and grandeur of Goldsmith. This film was meant to be epic in scope, and this soundtrack somehow seems to miss the mark on many occasions. There are some wonderful cue's, particularly the opening credits build-up to the introduction of the Enterprise-B, but these moments are few and far between in this score.

Everything I've heard is a "DS9" 4 cd set, published by La La Land Records in the near future.

That's confirmed. LaLaLa Records just issued publicity about the CDs that they will be selling at Comic Con, one of which is an expanded X2 soundtrack. In the detail they said that they will be talking about upcoming releases, including DS9. Great news!

DS9 had some great moments. I'm curious to see what episodes will be included on this release.

That's confirmed. LaLaLa Records just issued publicity about the CDs that they will be selling at Comic Con, one of which is an expanded X2 soundtrack. In the detail they said that they will be talking about upcoming releases, including DS9. Great news!

It's also eleven or twelve posts above his.

4CD Deep Space Nine, and Enterprise would be next (skipping over Voyager for the time being).

Don't know if this was posted before but here is Dennis McCarthy's score for the Star Trek Video Game "Star Trek Borg"...


1 Main Theme 1:04
2 The Legend Of The Borg 1:26
3 Battle At Wolf 359 2:59
4 The Battle Rages 0:59
5 Club Q 0:56
6 I Am Berman Of Borg 1:38
7 Goldsmith Has Been Assimilated! 1:38
8 Welcome To The Collective Cadet 2:25
9 Searching The Borg Ship 2:26
10 Time Is Running Out 1:19
11 Escape From The Borg Collective 1:44
12 Borg Hell 2:05
13 You Will Be Assimilated. Have A Nice Day 2:23
14 "Resistance Is Futile, My Ass!" / Finale 7:27
15 End Titles 1:09
16 Borg Invasion Suite Part 1 6:34
17 Borg Invasion Suite Part 2 2:54
18 Borg Invasion Suite Part 3 7:24

Dennis McCarthy - Star Trek Borg [Mediafire] (http://www.mediafire.com/?79tgre9rndc901h)

And for all of you who have never heard of Star Trek Borg, here is the entire "episode" on Youtube...
PC Longplay [144] Star Trek: Borg - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GvEDBHAld8)

and covers?
thanks

WOW! Mino, that is great. Now if we could find the whole "Episode" for the Klingon one, it would be a nice set!
Thanks for the share.

Oops! Went to that YOUTUBE site, and found this link sitting right there, and HD quality as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3vF9LXZePE&feature=related

William

While I am looking forward to a complete version of Generations as I am a completist, the overall music of the film was somewhat underwhelming. There were some great and powerful moments of music in the film, but in my opinion, Dennis McCarthy fails to capture the wonder and grandeur of Goldsmith. This film was meant to be epic in scope, and this soundtrack somehow seems to miss the mark on many occasions. There are some wonderful cue's, particularly the opening credits build-up to the introduction of the Enterprise-B, but these moments are few and far between in this score.

i've always wished ron jones hadn't been fired from tng because he might've gone on to score generations and that would've been epic

i think a ron jones scored trek film, with the composer having access to a larger orchestra (and budget) would've captured the spirit of goldsmith and horner

and covers?
thanks

... and covers here you go:

Star Trek_ Borg (back_front).rar download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/HzsWT9mB/Star_Trek__Borg__back_front_.html)

Does anyone know if there was a rejected/unused score for Generations ?

Does anyone know if there was a rejected/unused score for Generations ?

No, McCarthy was always the first choice. Whgy ever would you ask?


Goldsmith was the first choice on TMP.
A producer considered Miklos Rozsa for TWoK.
Horner was always the first choice on TSFS.
Horner was under some consideration for TVH, but Nimoy wanted Rosenman.
Goldsmith was always on TFF.
Suposedly, though never really fully confirmed, Poledouris was considered for TUC.

McCarthy was being considered for FC, but they always wanted Goldsmith and when his schedule opened up...

And everybody else was first on each film thereafter.

Suposedly, though never really fully confirmed, Poledouris was considered for TUC.

When the news broke that there was a 6th Trek film being done, Starlog reported James Horner was going to provide the score. They issued a retraction later, but I don't know if it was a bit of bad info, or Horner didn't accept the job. I do remember reading a quote of his saying he had "outgrown" Star Trek. Whatever the hell that means....

Thanks for the upload.

When the news broke that there was a 6th Trek film being done, Starlog reported James Horner was going to provide the score. They issued a retraction later, but I don't know if it was a bit of bad info, or Horner didn't accept the job. I do remember reading a quote of his saying he had "outgrown" Star Trek. Whatever the hell that means....

It means he's the mae equivalent of Sarah Michelle Gellar. For at least two+ decades.

Horner was always the first choice on TSFS.

actually Nimoy was interested in having Rosenman do TSFS.

actually Nimoy was interested in having Rosenman do TSFS.
yeah, i remember that in the TVH liner notes (new expanded version)

Any chance we can get the booklet scans for First Contact?

Please re-up Jerry Goldsmith - Star Trek: The Motion Picture 2012(Complete Score 3cd) in 320!!!

Koby

Less than 3,500 copies left, if anybody intends to get the pressed CD's.

Should I be worried that Screen Archives Entertainment hasn't sent me my copy of ST:TMP 3-CD and I placed my order on 6-16-12?
It's "pending". Should I email them for a refund or see whats going on? Or should I get my refund and order directly from LLL?

Should I be worried that Screen Archives Entertainment hasn't sent me my copy of ST:TMP 3-CD and I placed my order on 6-16-12?
It's "pending". Should I email them for a refund or see whats going on? Or should I get my refund and order directly from LLL?

No, don't be worried. A few days ago LLLR posted that they got more pressings in, and that retailers who ordered it would get their copies soon after. Just a delay.

No, don't be worried. A few days ago LLLR posted that they got more pressings in, and that retailers who ordered it would get their copies soon after. Just a delay.
Oh great thanks for info. I was going to kill somebody over this :P

Oh great thanks for info. I was going to kill somebody over this :P

It's an awesome release. I like some of the alternates better than the official takes.

Miklos Rozsa for TWoK.

http://suzumiyayuki.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mind-blown_thumb.gif?w=300&h=300
that would have been epically mind blowing!


Horner was under some consideration for TVH, but Nimoy wanted Rosenman.

nothing against rosenman's score for 4, but that has always bothered me. being a trilogy, i feel 4 really could've benefited from having horner reprise and further build on his themes from 2 and 3.


Suposedly, though never really fully confirmed, Poledouris was considered for TUC.

again, http://suzumiyayuki.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mind-blown_thumb.gif?w=300&h=300

Less than 3,500 copies left, if anybody intends to get the pressed CD's.

So it means that it sold around 6,500 copies already. 6,500! That is huge!

Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone still has the collection of artwork/booklet scans SMeLTaR posted here on page 64 & 65 (posts #1585 and #1611), or maybe he himself still has them? The links are down, sadly :-(

BTW, this is my first post ever here, been enjoying this thread as a lurker :-p

So it means that it sold around 6,500 copies already. 6,500! That is huge!

Yeah, and I thought when they announced 10,000 copies there was no rush to order (even thought I did :D), they would never sell all of them.

http://suzumiyayuki.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mind-blown_thumb.gif?w=300&h=300
that would have been epically mind blowing!



nothing against rosenman's score for 4, but that has always bothered me. being a trilogy, i feel 4 really could've benefited from having horner reprise and further build on his themes from 2 and 3.



again, http://suzumiyayuki.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mind-blown_thumb.gif?w=300&h=300

You want another mind blower? How about two mind blowers?

Jerry Goldsmith was originally going to score toe TOS pilot, but ended up not being able to.

Jerry Goldsmith was originally going to do the "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" theme, but had schedule conflicts in the end.



So it means that it sold around 6,500 copies already. 6,500! That is huge!

Not as big as V'ger, though. ;-)

You want another mind blower? How about two mind blowers?

Jerry Goldsmith was originally going to score toe TOS pilot, but ended up not being able to.

i remember reading that. roddenberry wanted him to do it. goldsmith was too busy and recommended courage. the real question is would it have sounded anything like the ST:TMP theme? :itsamystery:


Jerry Goldsmith was originally going to do the "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" theme, but had schedule conflicts in the end.

i wish he had. i never cared for the DS9 theme. voyager (despite being a weaker show) had the better theme

Actually, to be totally factual, Alexander Courage was the ONLY one that Roddenberry went to for the first pilot. Goldsmith was approached, and had actually done some work on the second pilot! Jerry himself had told me that he was very interested in doing that project, but something with the studios popped up in his face, and then some other project came along, I really don't remember specifically which one, think it may have been a movie. But it had nothing to do with anything that Roddenberry had done, there was a problem with Paramount execs, he had told me directly! I had also talked with Fred Steiner regarding this problem, and he also told me that Roddenberry was great to work with, but there were massive problems with the idiots in the studios, who did not know anything about the movie/TV business, and always wanted to cause problems.
Me, myself have never had that problem, as I ALWAYS have someone between me and the execs, someone that can act as a "buffer" between us. When a stupid order comes down, I just do as I'm told, regardless of my personal feelings, and when everything goes to hell, then we all know exactly where to place the blame, and I get MORE money to go back and do the project the way that it should have been done in the first place. If nobody asks for my opinion, I will not offer it. They think that they know everything about movie making, let them risk their jobs and positions being idiots! I really don't care!
In all fairness, there have been a couple of people who were fair to me, and my crew, and stood back and let us "do our thing" and supported us in the final result, however people like that, in this business are few and far between!
Anyway, that is my two cents on that subject.
William

Actually, to be totally factual...there was a problem with Paramount execs, he had told me directly! I had also talked with Fred Steiner regarding this problem, and he also told me that Roddenberry was great to work with, but there were massive problems with the idiots in the studios, who did not know anything about the movie/TV business, and always wanted to cause problems. William

Oh William. Oh my oh my.

So along with Horner, you're pals with Sandy Courage and Jerry Goldsmith?? Wow.

You know, your posts always have two things in common The are always about some negative nonsense, and they are also...sigh. Be nice Gwent, be nice...Lets just say not entirely true.

But of course, everyone here will believe what they like.

Personally I don't see how Trekkers can complain about anything right now. All this great music being released. And thanks to the piracy here, it's all free. What's not to love?

Actually, to be totally factual, Alexander Courage was the ONLY one that Roddenberry went to for the first pilot. Goldsmith was approached, and had actually done some work on the second pilot! Jerry himself had told me that he was very interested in doing that project, but something with the studios popped up in his face, and then some other project came along, I really don't remember specifically which one, think it may have been a movie. But it had nothing to do with anything that Roddenberry had done, there was a problem with Paramount execs, he had told me directly! I had also talked with Fred Steiner regarding this problem, and he also told me that Roddenberry was great to work with, but there were massive problems with the idiots in the studios, who did not know anything about the movie/TV business, and always wanted to cause problems.
Me, myself have never had that problem, as I ALWAYS have someone between me and the execs, someone that can act as a "buffer" between us. When a stupid order comes down, I just do as I'm told, regardless of my personal feelings, and when everything goes to hell, then we all know exactly where to place the blame, and I get MORE money to go back and do the project the way that it should have been done in the first place. If nobody asks for my opinion, I will not offer it. They think that they know everything about movie making, let them risk their jobs and positions being idiots! I really don't care!
In all fairness, there have been a couple of people who were fair to me, and my crew, and stood back and let us "do our thing" and supported us in the final result, however people like that, in this business are few and far between!
Anyway, that is my two cents on that subject.
William

I had a musician tell me Jerry had a score replaced on the TOS pilot. I thought he was confusing it with something else. Guess there was -- if your information about his material on the second pilot is true -- some middle ground of reality to it.

I jsut didn't know which pilot, so I just used the word to server as a catch-all.

That sounds about right for studio executives! all they see is the bottom line, and when it goes to crap all their fingers come out pointing to everyone but them-self's. William thats (Unfortunately) the best advise for anyone working in Hollywood! keep your head down and your mouth shut. Don't pay any attention to gwent he is just another mouthbreather.

Scott

Well, not one for wanting to be negative all the time, and still thinking that maybe he's one of those suit wearing execs we all know and hate... Hehehe, I can only just report the FACTS, as I know them. If you view them as negative, that's your own perception, not my slant on the situation. And I never said that I was friends with Mr. Courage, not at all! I had only met him thru all the crap work I was doing with Neil Norman over at Crescendo. We were not friends, not then, not now. I really didn't like the man all that much, and disliked Fred Steiner even more. They both seemed like spoiled little kids when it came to "their music", unlike Jerry Goldsmith, who was a real peach of a man. John Williams was another, a GREAT guy to deal with, (And NO, he's not a friend of mine either!) but I only met him a couple of times as well!
GEEEEZZZ, I always wondered how my words get turned around, and make me out to be the bad guy! But, that's what happens in the movie business. As I was just telling another person on this board, you CANNOT have friends in the biz! If you are nice to anyone, do anyone a good turn or favor, they will stab you in the back faster that you can say "well, F**K me, sideways"! If you look at all the scars in my back, you'll understand. They smile in your face, and then screw you over behind your back. I cannot tell you how many untalented creeps, like Neil, have taken credit for work done by others, and tried to promote their own careers with false credits, work that was done by people that I know personally, and then these creeps become studio execs or some higher position, so they can tell YOU what needs to be done. These are the same execs that I had mentioned previously. If Gwent wants to defend the actions of these execs, he has that right! (But, you notice how he's always talking about the piracy on this site? Hint, hint)

But I KNOW the truth!

William

you worked at gnp crescendo? kudos to you. :)

Finally got my ST:TMP 3-CD and it's awesome. I've ripped in 320kbps if anyone wants it.

Well, not one for wanting to be negative all the time, and still thinking that maybe he's one of those suit wearing execs we all know and hate... Hehehe, I can only just report the FACTS, as I know them. If you view them as negative, that's your own perception, not my slant on the situation. And I never said that I was friends with Mr. Courage, not at all! I had only met him thru all the crap work I was doing with Neil Norman over at Crescendo. We were not friends, not then, not now. I really didn't like the man all that much, and disliked Fred Steiner even more. They both seemed like spoiled little kids when it came to "their music", unlike Jerry Goldsmith, who was a real peach of a man. John Williams was another, a GREAT guy to deal with, (And NO, he's not a friend of mine either!) but I only met him a couple of times as well!
GEEEEZZZ, I always wondered how my words get turned around, and make me out to be the bad guy! But, that's what happens in the movie business. As I was just telling another person on this board, you CANNOT have friends in the biz! If you are nice to anyone, do anyone a good turn or favor, they will stab you in the back faster that you can say "well, F**K me, sideways"! If you look at all the scars in my back, you'll understand. They smile in your face, and then screw you over behind your back. I cannot tell you how many untalented creeps, like Neil, have taken credit for work done by others, and tried to promote their own careers with false credits, work that was done by people that I know personally, and then these creeps become studio execs or some higher position, so they can tell YOU what needs to be done. These are the same execs that I had mentioned previously. If Gwent wants to defend the actions of these execs, he has that right! (But, you notice how he's always talking about the piracy on this site? Hint, hint)

But I KNOW the truth!

William

So long as you're not being negative.

Ah, well. This is you're forum and you have you're following who believe you and that's great for everybody. Who am I to mouth breath in you're House?

Have a nice weekend all.

you worked at gnp crescendo? kudos to you. :)

No, I actually worked WITH Crescendo. Wish that it was at a time when Gene Norman was in control, (Hence the GNP in the name), but it was after Neil took control from his dad. :(

Yes, Neil had taken ALL of my recordings, all of the TOS SFX, and wanted to see, from the studio, if they were a "viable project"! What he was really doing was getting approval for the project from Paramount, and thus screwing me out of not only involvement for the project, but also any money for my recordings, which he had promised me 5% of the total GROSS!!! However, he got written permission from the studio to go ahead with the project, turned around and forwarded the original tapes of the SFX, and the "Cage" music over to a company in Japan to clean them up and make them digital. I got them back about 6 months later, when Neil told me that the studio had turned him down, then the records, tapes and CDs came out about 8 months after that! Needless to say, Neil refused to speak to me, changed his phone number, dodged my calls at the office, and with the proceeds from the SFX CDs alone, BOUGHT himself a brand new house just north of Malibu! If memory serves, it was something like 1.7 or 1.8 million dollar house, which he had put down 1.2 million for!!! I had a friend that worked with him at the time. You can check my previous posts for more of that story!

William

Finally got my ST:TMP 3-CD and it's awesome. I've ripped in 320kbps if anyone wants it.

Steam, when did you order yours? I ordered four minutes after it went up for sale, and got shipping confirmation three hours later... still nothing. :(

So long as you're not being negative.

Ah, well. This is you're forum and you have you're following who believe you and that's great for everybody. Who am I to mouth breath in you're House?

Have a nice weekend all.

Well, look. I have seen some material elsewhere regarding the subject, and decided I just don't care. I make a conscious choice to take members at face value, as they do me. With very few exceptions, I do not converse with any members outside of this forum. I only care about who y'all are on here. I am not always a fan of William's posts, but I don't see the harm in any of the stories he posts here. Whether or not you believe them, many find them and the conversations in general to be entertaining.

As for what he has shared, he has posted numerous things that were not easily obtainable to members here, and that will be their bottom line. Ultimately, none of us care where he got the material, we only care that he shared. Most of the stuff posted around here is from other sites or blogs. That is the nature of these sites. One archive is generally spread around all over, but you know that. As for his well of goodies running dry, that is gonna happen sooner or later. There is only so much unreleased material. And, with the newer releases popping up, a lot of it has become dated. So what.

As to your sarcastic jab at the "pirates" here, it is not welcomed. We have all made choices about what we do or don't chose to partake of. We all rationalize it, but poking at folks for doing it is silly. This whole sub-forum is dedicated to sharing, so if that is an issue then I suggest you leave. No offense, that is the same thing I tell everyone who makes comments about the sharing here.

Sci-Fi fans are notorious for expressing their feelings, and Trek fans particularly so. Odd, that so many can be so negative towards a product they claim to love so much, but that is hardly new and doesn't look to ever change. Almost every fan has their idea on how to make it better. And, when the directors and writers listen and take some of those directions, other fans become livid. It is the same with the Superhero movies. Meh, just is.

This is hardly Willy's (HA! He'll' love that!) forum. Many, many members are more active around here than he is, and have more recognition. (Myself included) But this IS his thread. He started it, and of course he is going to be prominently active. Why shouldn't he be. As for your comments about his "fans" and "followers", 'tis the cult of Willy, here in Willydome (:erm: sounds wierd, wrong, and oddly erotic..). I think they just mostly enjoy talking to him. Doesn't really come down to belief. Who really believes anything said in a blog? They are entertaining stories and that's the bottom line there. Your comments about his "fans" can easily be interprated as insults to all of us, and frankly it's hutful and uneeded.

This thing with you seems to be a pretty open personal vendetta, and it gets tiring. You have all of the Shrine to post in, yet you chose to come in here and rag on William. You claim to want us to "see the truth"? The truth looks like you are willing to do or say anything at all in an effort to drive him from the site. Despite the ban, and the repeated requests for restraint, you just don't seem able to help yourself, so you are coming off as the bad guy here, not him. :notgood: why do you care so much? Why not just avoid this thread. OR, dunno, contribute something. It just makes no sense.

**doesn't get it, swoops back into the shadows with a "whoosh"**

:awsm:

:angel:

BTW, if you look at my signature, you will see links for the Butthurt Suvivor's Thread. It certainly seems like that is a more appropriate place to bitch about this stuff. :)

Well, not one for wanting to be negative all the time, and still thinking that maybe he's one of those suit wearing execs we all know and hate... Hehehe, I can only just report the FACTS, as I know them. If you view them as negative, that's your own perception, not my slant on the situation. And I never said that I was friends with Mr. Courage, not at all! I had only met him thru all the crap work I was doing with Neil Norman over at Crescendo. We were not friends, not then, not now. I really didn't like the man all that much, and disliked Fred Steiner even more. They both seemed like spoiled little kids when it came to "their music", unlike Jerry Goldsmith, who was a real peach of a man. John Williams was another, a GREAT guy to deal with, (And NO, he's not a friend of mine either!) but I only met him a couple of times as well!
GEEEEZZZ, I always wondered how my words get turned around, and make me out to be the bad guy! But, that's what happens in the movie business. As I was just telling another person on this board, you CANNOT have friends in the biz! If you are nice to anyone, do anyone a good turn or favor, they will stab you in the back faster that you can say "well, F**K me, sideways"! If you look at all the scars in my back, you'll understand. They smile in your face, and then screw you over behind your back. I cannot tell you how many untalented creeps, like Neil, have taken credit for work done by others, and tried to promote their own careers with false credits, work that was done by people that I know personally, and then these creeps become studio execs or some higher position, so they can tell YOU what needs to be done. These are the same execs that I had mentioned previously. If Gwent wants to defend the actions of these execs, he has that right! (But, you notice how he's always talking about the piracy on this site? Hint, hint)

But I KNOW the truth!

William

As I see it, it all comes down to ego!! most have the ego the size of a barn and turn into the worst human being this side of Genghis Khan (no pun intended) and very little don't let it effect them and are just people. I apologizes for my harsh words, I don't like anyone being called a liar I respect. William has done so much for all of us and all for free, so it just burns my butt...call me Old Fashioned! and I will shut up now.

Scott

As I see it, it all comes down to ego!! most have the ego the size of a barn and turn into the worst human being this side of Genghis Khan (no pun intended) and very little don't let it effect them and are just people. I apologizes for my harsh words, I don't like anyone being called a liar I respect. William has done so much for all of us and all for free, so it just burns my butt...call me Old Fashioned! and I will shut up now.

Scott

Ok. You're old fashioned. :)

:awsm:

Steam, when did you order yours? I ordered four minutes after it went up for sale, and got shipping confirmation three hours later... still nothing. :(
I got it ordered 16th of June, i was worried then I found out that the retailers didnt get it until late July. It shipped July 11th, I got it Thursday, from SAE.

I got it ordered 16th of June, i was worried then I found out that the retailers didnt get it until late July. It shipped July 11th, I got it Thursday, from SAE.

*sigh* Guess I'll have to contact LLL again on Monday to see what's going on.

Well, look. I have seen some material elsewhere regarding the subject, and decided I just don't care. I make a conscious choice to take members at face value, as they do me. With very few exceptions, I do not converse with any members outside of this forum. I only care about who y'all are on here. I am not always a fan of William's posts, but I don't see the harm in any of the stories he posts here. Whether or not you believe them, many find them and the conversations in general to be entertaining.

As for what he has shared, he has posted numerous things that were not easily obtainable to members here, and that will be their bottom line. Ultimately, none of us care where he got the material, we only care that he shared. Most of the stuff posted around here is from other sites or blogs. That is the nature of these sites. One archive is generally spread around all over, but you know that. As for his well of goodies running dry, that is gonna happen sooner or later. There is only so much unreleased material. And, with the newer releases popping up, a lot of it has become dated. So what.

As to your sarcastic jab at the "pirates" here, it is not welcomed. We have all made choices about what we do or don't chose to partake of. We all rationalize it, but poking at folks for doing it is silly. This whole sub-forum is dedicated to sharing, so if that is an issue then I suggest you leave. No offense, that is the same thing I tell everyone who makes comments about the sharing here.

Sci-Fi fans are notorious for expressing their feelings, and Trek fans particularly so. Odd, that so many can be so negative towards a product they claim to love so much, but that is hardly new and doesn't look to ever change. Almost every fan has their idea on how to make it better. And, when the directors and writers listen and take some of those directions, other fans become livid. It is the same with the Superhero movies. Meh, just is.

This is hardly Willy's (HA! He'll' love that!) forum. Many, many members are more active around here than he is, and have more recognition. (Myself included) But this IS his thread. He started it, and of course he is going to be prominently active. Why shouldn't he be. As for your comments about his "fans" and "followers", 'tis the cult of Willy, here in Willydome (:erm: sounds wierd, wrong, and oddly erotic..). I think they just mostly enjoy talking to him. Doesn't really come down to belief. Who really believes anything said in a blog? They are entertaining stories and that's the bottom line there. Your comments about his "fans" can easily be interprated as insults to all of us, and frankly it's hutful and uneeded.

This thing with you seems to be a pretty open personal vendetta, and it gets tiring. You have all of the Shrine to post in, yet you chose to come in here and rag on William. You claim to want us to "see the truth"? The truth looks like you are willing to do or say anything at all in an effort to drive him from the site. Despite the ban, and the repeated requests for restraint, you just don't seem able to help yourself, so you are coming off as the bad guy here, not him. :notgood: why do you care so much? Why not just avoid this thread. OR, dunno, contribute something. It just makes no sense.


Couldn't agree more. William is a great guy. He really works for Hollywood. And GNP Crescendo. And Sony music and has Titanic recording sessions. And Pinewood studios and has Space 1999 sound effects.

In fact, I'll bet the La La Land ST TMP set came from his personal copies of Goldsmith's recoding sessions, handed to him personally by the maestro.

And even though he was born in 1969 he was personally there when Star Trek TOS was filmed and worked with Sandy Courage on both pilots. He really is a Hollywood Insider. And he risks his job every day to visit this forum and break the laws of the music companies and the studios. I believe that.

I, on the other hand, am nothing but a mouth breathing corporate executive hell bent on spoiling everyone's fun.

Does that make sense to you? You know what?? I'll bet it does!!

:rolleyes:

You totally missed the point, in that there are not only sub-forums, but a specific thread just for this sort of bitching/discussing/mocking. Nearly anywhere in the General Discussion thread. Possibly in the Film Music Hunt discussion thread, and most specifically in the Butthurt thread.

My point, dear sir, is that we are **supposed** to keep this sort of discussion off of the Download forum. Generally speaking. When the discussion is about the topic, and in the topic's thread, mods tend to give some slack. BUT, you are not on the thread topic. You are not discussing the music, or any of that. You are engaging in this rhetoric, and that should not be a part of this section. I have not yet seen you just discuss our mutual hobbies in this or any other thread. I don't give a shit one way or the other about who William is, pretends to be or generally anything remotely personal. I am not real sure why you do? I mean, here in THIS forum, he is not doing any harm. I **understand** perfectly some of the "research" innuendos, accusations etc on other boards. I did read every last bit I saw posted. And, I still just don't care. I have not stated whether I believe or not. I stated I could care less. THAT is my point.

BTW, you keep talking in circles. You need not bother. Just pop into the thread, and type "you know. Yadda yadda blah blah William blech whaterver". We will all know what you mean. You have been repeating the same things for years now. Why. Why does it matter to you, and why hang in there this long, and be this bitter?

I've followed this thread for quite some time and I have to say that this seems that one poster (Gwent) seems to take perverse pleasure in trying to hurt the credibility of a valued and respected member of this forum who had contributed a wealth of material, knowledge, and personal anecdotes. Maybe Gwent is simply jealous, has a negative personality, or is compensating for some personal inadequacies and has no other vehicle to experience any personal vindication. In any case, it would be nice if he could keep his obnoxious and inappropriate and sarcastic opinions to himself as the rest of us aren't really interested inhis opinion of another poster. We can all formulate our own opinions and ideas without any assistance from him.

So long as you're not being negative.

Ah, well. This is you're forum and you have you're following who believe you and that's great for everybody. Who am I to mouth breath in you're House?

Have a nice weekend all.



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Gwent, stop being a twat :roflbalok:

Anyone interested in the "Star Trek Online" soundtrack?
I just ripped the music from the archive files.
Some nice tracks there...

I've been obsessed with this game lately. I love where Cryptic has taken the prime timeline!
I reached the Captain rank yesterday and got myself the "Intrepid Class" predeccesor "Bellerophon Class".
I retrofitted it so it looks a bit more like our beloved VOYAGER...she is a freakin beauty!

Yes please. Is it Manthei?

I was born in 1969?????? Where did THAT come from? Hehehehehe
Thought that someone had said that since Danny Elfman and I were born the same year, that I WAS Danny!!???!!!

What's my REAL name, Dude? Come at me, Bro! Hehehehe

And, don't call me "Willy"!!! :)

William

Yes, Kevin Manthei!


STAR TREK ONLINE

81 Tracks, 340 MB, OGG Format...
Split RAR archive...

Part 1
STOCSKEVMAN.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?h4clc6x7dh3a1hl)

Part 2
STOCSKEVMAN.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?w476lpwjhuyjorj)

Everyone, lets get back to the awesomeness that is this forum. Petty feuding serves no one and will only serve to discourage participation. This forum generally invites intelligent debate and provides usefull knowledge and feedback. Lewt's stick to that.

HERE, HERE!!! (Where? Where?) :)

William

So I was watching the 1986 animated version of Transformers: The Movie, and lo and behold, after watching an early theatrical trailer that I found online, the music from the trailer is mostly from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. I'm very curious if this was actually licensed or how this came about. The trailer is available at the following link although it is extremely poor quality.

Transformers - The Movie 1986 - trailer with MASSIVE spoiler - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3j7yYJbKY)

And, don't call me "Willy"!!! :)

don't call him tiny either!

Thanks, Mino!

And DO NOT call me "Minnow" either! I'm a WHALE! Hehehehehe

We really need to get some more uploads on this thread! Need to buckle down and get started on this, now that I have found a couple of new upload sites! :)

William

And DO NOT call me "Minnow" either! I'm a WHALE! Hehehehehe

We really need to get some more uploads on this thread! Need to buckle down and get started on this, now that I have found a couple of new upload sites! :)

William
Are you a HUMPBACK whale? Or HUMPBACK people? ;)

And DO NOT call me "Minnow" either! I'm a WHALE! Hehehehehe

We really need to get some more uploads on this thread! Need to buckle down and get started on this, now that I have found a couple of new upload sites! :)

William

Great. Can't wait to hear your new uploads.

Ok. You're old fashioned. :)

:awsm:

Thanks Amanda for bring a smile to me this morning!

Scott

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HERE, HERE!!! (Where? Where?) :)

William

There, There!

Scott

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Thanks Mino!!

Scott

Yes, Kevin Manthei!


STAR TREK ONLINE

81 Tracks, 340 MB, OGG Format...
Split RAR archive...

Part 1
STOCSKEVMAN.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?h4clc6x7dh3a1hl)

Part 2
STOCSKEVMAN.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?w476lpwjhuyjorj)

Thanks Mino!

Finally got my ST:TMP 3-CD and it's awesome. I've ripped in 320kbps if anyone wants it.

Yes please! I want it!!!

Yes, Kevin Manthei!


STAR TREK ONLINE

81 Tracks, 340 MB, OGG Format...
Split RAR archive...

Part 1
STOCSKEVMAN.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?h4clc6x7dh3a1hl)

Part 2
STOCSKEVMAN.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?w476lpwjhuyjorj)
Holy crap it's Star Trek Online. I've been wanting a proper rip for a long time. I'm hooked on this game! Thanks!

Great. Can't wait to hear your new uploads.

Still waiting for even ONE upload from you, Owens!

Can't wait to see that one, either!

William

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Gwent, stop being a twat :roflbalok:

You must remember that the Butthurt surrounds us, binds us, and that's why a salad now and then wouldn't hurt. Though the butthurt may still linger! The Butthurt is strong in this One!

Also, I just noticed that IZBOT hasn't posted anything on this site since the first of May, 2012.

I hope he's okay, and will be coming back soon.

William

We need a new a new composer for the next Trek film. Call me crazy, but in my opinion, Michael Giacchino's score to Star Trek leaves me a little cold. Maybe it's the fault of the producer's who kept telling him to make it different, but his style seems a bit bland to me. I listen to the soundtrack every once in a while, but I don't seek it out like I do with other Trek scores. Maybe it will be a little different for the next film, but I wouldn't bet on it. Unfortunately, J.J. Abrams and Michael Giacchino are buddies, so having him choose a different composer for even the third film is extremely unlikely. Any thoughts?

We need a new a new composer for the next Trek film. Call me crazy, but in my opinion, Michael Giacchino's score to Star Trek leaves me a little cold. Maybe it's the fault of the producer's who kept telling him to make it different, but his style seems a bit bland to me. I listen to the soundtrack every once in a while, but I don't seek it out like I do with other Trek scores. Maybe it will be a little different for the next film, but I wouldn't bet on it. Unfortunately, J.J. Abrams and Michael Giacchino are buddies, so having him choose a different composer for even the third film is extremely unlikely. Any thoughts?

Well, I feel the same when playing Giacchino's score, and many of us old trekkers (I'm born in 1961) had hoped to get more of some retro-trek style music, call it some kind of hommage to those old composers like Fred Steiner, Sandy Courage, Gerald Fried (Amok Time, yeah!!) etc. Yes, we got Courage's fanfare and all, but that's not enough for my taste. He DID, if I recall correctly, compose quite a good retro-score for Mission Impossible, with that wonderful Lalo Shifrin tune. Let's hope his score for Star Trek 2013 will be better in that regard!

Out of dislike of that movie I have not once listened to it out of the film. I have the 2cd, for completion's sake. I guess I really ought to at least once.

While I don't completely dislike the last Trek film, as a Trekkie, I do have quite a few issues with it. There's no need to go into detail, suffice it to say I was not pleased with the total and utter disregard for established canon. There is also something missing in the film. It feels like the emphasis was placed on eye-candy and not story. There was a lot of form over functionality. The Enterprise bridge looks like the Apple store which I personally don't believe is a good thing. But more to the point, the way these characters were written, they just didn't feel like the characters we have come to know and love over the past several decades.

I'm tired of hearing how they are just getting to know one another and all that BS, people's characters and personality generally don't change because of a new acquaintance. It just felt like Star Trek Lite to me; As if the writers were pandering to the reality TV generation. It's something I have a great deal of difficulty articulating, but it is what it is. I sincerely hope that the music and writing in the second film begin to come somewhat closer to what made people fall in love with the franchise to begin with.

Hollywood needs to stop completely re-inventing things and tampering with what does work. Star Trek had its issues, but in my opinion, they were rooted in the studio treating it like a bastard step-child and milking it for every penny it was worth without giving it a decent budget. Now we have the budget, let's treat it like Star Trek. Let's get back to actually exploring and discovering something new. A villain does not need to be a physical person. I wish the writers understood this.

Well, it was really obvious to me that the 2009 trek movie was just a reworked version of Star Trek:Nemesis. I mean, in Nemesis, you had a man who hated Picard, who had a planet killing device, who was going to destroy Earth, and Picard had to kill him before that happened!
In the 2009 movie, you had a man who hated Spock, who had a planet killing device, who was going to destroy Vulcan and Earth, and Kirk and Spock had to kill him before that happened! See anything similar?

On a side note, I just got a PM from GWENT! He said that he's taking the summer off, because his computer is down, and apparently, sending his little notes via his phone or some other device for a couple of months, and he's just not up to using that to spare with me, the way that he can. He then turned around and totally denied that he had admitted to be Mr. Owens, as he had done on the old 1999 thread, which I had reported at the time, and then ended the PM by trying to refer to me as "George"!!! I have no idea who he thinks I am, but he did say that he KNOWS that I don't work in the entertainment business! Exactly where I work, or where he thinks I work, I have no idea, totally! I asked him if he was off his meds, or just having a bad reaction to them.

Well, anyway, the good news is that we may all have a little vacation from vapid comments for a short while, none the less.

William

Somehow, I doubt we're all that lucky. :)

While I don't completely dislike the last Trek film, as a Trekkie, I do have quite a few issues with it. There's no need to go into detail, suffice it to say I was not pleased with the total and utter disregard for established canon. There is also something missing in the film. It feels like the emphasis was placed on eye-candy and not story. There was a lot of form over functionality. The Enterprise bridge looks like the Apple store which I personally don't believe is a good thing. But more to the point, the way these characters were written, they just didn't feel like the characters we have come to know and love over the past several decades.

I'm tired of hearing how they are just getting to know one another and all that BS, people's characters and personality generally don't change because of a new acquaintance. It just felt like Star Trek Lite to me; As if the writers were pandering to the reality TV generation. It's something I have a great deal of difficulty articulating, but it is what it is. I sincerely hope that the music and writing in the second film begin to come somewhat closer to what made people fall in love with the franchise to begin with.

Hollywood needs to stop completely re-inventing things and tampering with what does work. Star Trek had its issues, but in my opinion, they were rooted in the studio treating it like a bastard step-child and milking it for every penny it was worth without giving it a decent budget. Now we have the budget, let's treat it like Star Trek. Let's get back to actually exploring and discovering something new. A villain does not need to be a physical person. I wish the writers understood this.

i couldn't agree with you more.

it bothers me that they are trying to make it a star wars clone. abrams even said (i'm paraphrasing) that when they were writing it, they said "what can we learn from star wars?"

don't get me wrong, i love star wars, but star trek is an entirely different entity. roddenberry certainly had adventure and excitement in mind when he created trek, but he also created it as a platform to discuss topical/controversial issues in the guise of a sci-fi adventure. i don't think abrams gives a damn about continuing that tradition.

the new trek is a soulless eye candy extravaganza that has become little more than self-parody. paramount doesn't care as long as it's making them tons of cash. they couldn't give a shite if the original core fans are upset with the direction trek is going. that's the most frustrating thing. we can whine and moan about the new trek all we want, but we have to accept that abrams is probably going to continue the trends he started in '09 with the next film

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Well, it was really obvious to me that the 2009 trek movie was just a reworked version of Star Trek:Nemesis. I mean, in Nemesis, you had a man who hated Picard, who had a planet killing device, who was going to destroy Earth, and Picard had to kill him before that happened!
In the 2009 movie, you had a man who hated Spock, who had a planet killing device, who was going to destroy Vulcan and Earth, and Kirk and Spock had to kill him before that happened! See anything similar?

On a side note, I just got a PM from GWENT! He said that he's taking the summer off, because his computer is down, and apparently, sending his little notes via his phone or some other device for a couple of months, and he's just not up to using that to spare with me, the way that he can. He then turned around and totally denied that he had admitted to be Mr. Owens, as he had done on the old 1999 thread, which I had reported at the time, and then ended the PM by trying to refer to me as "George"!!! I have no idea who he thinks I am, but he did say that he KNOWS that I don't work in the entertainment business! Exactly where I work, or where he thinks I work, I have no idea, totally! I asked him if he was off his meds, or just having a bad reaction to them.

Well, anyway, the good news is that we may all have a little vacation from vapid comments for a short while, none the less.

William

i also noticed a lot of similarities to nemesis. shinzon and nero are both very one dimensional characters whose motives are never fully explained. it never made total sense to me why shinzon so hated picard and the federation. in nero's case, i don't understand why he hated a man that had been desperately trying to save romulus...okay, so spock failed to prevent the destruction of romulus in the 24th century...but the way nero acts, you'd think spock had been responsible for destroying nero's home planet.

i blame the recent trend of lame, one dimensional villains in trek on lazy writers. i can picture abrams and orci and company coming up with the idea for a villain "we gotta make him mean and scary. and he hates the federation and spock" "why?" "who cares? just make him really scary and stuff!"

and the worst thing is they're gonna take a classic character (khan) who was complex and multi-faceted and transform him into another nero or shinzon for the next film.

I think The concept as a whole is ok, but i can't help but wonder, with the ability to go forward and backward in time, they could eventially get things right. I know there's a temperal directive which begs the question, could someone go back and Bitch Slap J.J. Abrams, Roberto Orci, and Alex Kurtzman before the Deal had gotten started and maybe locked them in the basement till some else, anybody else did Star Trek.

Problem was they did it that way to piss with the Fans anyway. And were said to hate Star Trek. In fact I think they do what they do to screw with the public.

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By The Way You can't jump back and forth through Time. You can suspend Yourself and delay aging, which I think i've witnessed myself, Like not drinking so much coffee!

Well if it wasn't the JJ Abrams movie, the franchise would be gathering dust at the moment, and there wouldn't be any interest to release any of the Star Trek scores.

This isn't a question of did they re-invigorate the franchise? They obviosuly did. That doesn't mean that the story was well written or that it was good science fiction. Paramount for the first time put an A-list director, a huge budget, and A-list star's into the mix. In my opinion, it would have been difficult to have not succeeded given the resources they had at their disposal. And by the way, the same people who are currently interested in Trek scores would still be interested today whether they had created that film or not.

That's hilarious!!!

I really think that this trend to "Un-invent" canon Star Trek started really with Rick Berman, and Brannon Braga, the "B&B" boys. They loved throwing all sorts of things like that. Spock was supposed to be the first Vulcan to join Starfleet, which was mentioned in TOS, and then T'Pol comes along, 78 years before Spock, and now SHE's joined Starfleet! W T F????
Then "Zefrane Cochran" isn't from "Alpha Centauri" like was mentioned in TOS, he's from EARTH!!! W T F???
This was set in motion by the B&B Boys, and the snowball keeps getting bigger. What next? Kirk was born on Rigel?
GGGGEEEEEEZZZZZZ

William

Oddly enough, I can't find the CLUB47 music in my own STO rip.
I can't find it in the archives!!!

Btw, does anyone know if the "Year of Hell" score was ever leaked?
I think its Dennis McCarthy's finest work on Star Trek!

What we need is originality in plot and no more time-travel BS. Stop making the characters act like teenagers. I think what the issue is is that Star Trek was always a little more cerebral which I found lacking in the last film. Even though Nero's motivatins are explroed in the Countdown comic companion which serves as a prequel to the event sof the film, his motivation is illogical; Nothing more than the misguided agenda of a madman. Star Trek deserves more than that. There should be some new threat not jsut to the Federation, but to the galaxy itself. The threat should be somewhat mystrious and literally just scare the hell out of people. The Unknown!!! That is what Star Trek is suposed to be. Exploring the unknown. Sometimes the Unknown can be wondrous, and sometimes it can be frightening and haunting. Bring the franchise back to that. This concept I beleive would really work and could lay the framework for a multi-film story arc. Im not advocating for a "To be continued", however, there should be a partial resolution which doesn't answer all of the questions and can be addressed later. And for the love of G-d, please do not re-hash the Spock/Uhura relationship. It made absolutely no sense.

If we're nitpicking canon, then let's get our canon correct. It was never stated that Spock was the "first" Vulcan in Starfleet -- that was fan lore invented in the 70s for unofficial publications. In fact, in the TOS episode "The Immunity Syndrome," there is reference to the starship Intrepid being "entirely manned by Vulcans." It makes no sense that there would be 430 OTHER Vulcans in Starfleet, several of whom would outrank Spock, if he had been the very first.

Additionally, when we first see Zephram Cochrane in "Metamorphosis," he's referred to as being "of" Alpha Centauri -- not "from." There's a difference. We have no idea what happened to him after his warp test. The implication is that he must have settled on Alpha Centauri some time after that.

Mind you, I have no great love of "B&B." They aren't the greatest dramatists out there, nor are they the best TV showrunners. But they rarely, if ever, flat-out contradicted canon. If anything, they were experts at finding the grey/undeveloped areas and using those as springboards.

Well, Spock's mother had told Kirk about him being the first Vulcan to join Starfleet against his father's wishes! And the Vulcan crew of the Intrepid happened YEARS after Spock's academy days. Spock was on the Enterprise for it's first five year mission, with Captain Pike, plus we don't know when the Intrepid came about. It could have been it's maiden voyage when it was destroyed. No info one way or the other.
Why would you refer to a person as "of" a place if they are not from there? Would you say "Arnold Swartzenegger" of California, or from Austria? It's just a matter of perception, or opinion.

And speaking of perception, how is it that you joined here in January of 2010, over two years ago, and this is your first post? And on this subject, to rebuff my statement? Seems almost as if you have an agenda, and decided to use one of your old sockpuppet accounts!

But that is just my perception.

Curious, William

Well, Spock's mother had told Kirk about him being the first Vulcan to join Starfleet against his father's wishes! And the Vulcan crew of the Intrepid happened YEARS after Spock's academy days. Spock was on the Enterprise for it's first five year mission, with Captain Pike, plus we don't know when the Intrepid came about. It could have been it's maiden voyage when it was destroyed. No info one way or the other.



Mr. Spock served with captain Pike for 11 years. Not five.

A first post is a first post. I chose to post about this because I know more about Star Trek than general soundtracks, that's all. I've heard/read my share of Trek criticisms in which people use incorrect "canon" to defend their opinion that canon was violated. I just wanted to set the record straight on this one.

To address your two points, Spock's mother did not refer to him as the first Vulcan in Starfleet -- only that he joined against his father's wishes. And yes, I would generally say refer to Schwarzenegger as "of" California, since that's where he has spent most of his life. However, as you said, that one's a matter of perception, which proves the point that B&B weren't exactly violating canon by using the reference. They were merely filling in an existing gap in detail.

Notice the oddity of the TOS Enterprise mission plan?

Pike? Oh, he can just have that for eleven years. Kirk? Who the fuck is he? No, no -- he can only have a five-year mission.
Which will involve NO APPARENT MISSION, and flying around randomly and doing things with no apparent five-year mission relation, and somehow manage to always save planets and the universe by being hte only ship in the area. Then, give him a half-assed refit that later needs improvements, only the second time around done my a pack of monkeys who can't even get the doors to open rights, and just as things are dying down and he might be able to have a peaceful run, tell him you're he's ordered to surrender the ship so it can be de-commissioned.

Oh, and later on have him show up for the inaugural flight of the Enterprise B, with a quick trip to Pluto and back, and somehow be the ONLY FREAKIN' SHIP in the area of Earth's solar system -- never mind they have other ships and transmission arrays that could have picked that distress signal up and had other ships in reach arrive about the same time, no -- only the Enterprise B is in the immediate and adjacent solar systems.

Oh, my -- this has turned into a rant.

"Star Trekkin across the universe.... On the starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk. Star Trekkin across the universe.... Always going forward because they can't find reverse."