Is there, here on the site, the soundtracks (with the orchestral scores) for the 11 movies? I've tried searching but I'm obviously not very talented at it. Thanks.

Hi Guys. I've done a CD Front and back cover for the first of the bootleg Next Gen soundtracks. If there is any interest I can do the other ones as a set. Let me know what you think and if you are interested in them. The thread for the albums is Thread 119769



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Why BOOTLEG? I think ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED sounds better. It is a nice looking cover, but, you make us seem like criminals....never mind.

Why BOOTLEG? I think ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADED sounds better. It is a nice looking cover, but, you make us seem like criminals....never mind.

Hmmmm, I see your point, but these were unreleased session recordings, soooooooo I think those are classed as Bootleg. Now to validate your point, the Oxford English Dictionary, finds the first use of the phrase in the Omaha Herald in 1889:
"There is as much whisky consumed in Iowa now as there was before..."for medical purposes only," and on the boot-leg plan."

A "bootleg" refers to the long leather boots worn by cowboys in the olden days of the wild wild west. These cowboys (the naughty fellows) used to put all kinds of illegal stuff into them, including things like moonshine, a knife or even a cheeky miniature gun to catch out people who think they were unarmed. So, in conclusion, Bootleg, Illegal, comes down to the same thing you old pirate you, or is that you old cowboy you. Wagon Train to the Stars AZSneed, Wagon Train to the Stars. ;)

Hmmmm, I see your point, but these were unreleased session recordings, soooooooo I think those are classed as Bootleg. Now to validate your point, the Oxford English Dictionary, finds the first use of the phrase in the Omaha Herald in 1889:
"There is as much whisky consumed in Iowa now as there was before..."for medical purposes only," and on the boot-leg plan."

A "bootleg" refers to the long leather boots worn by cowboys in the olden days of the wild wild west. These cowboys (the naughty fellows) used to put all kinds of illegal stuff into them, including things like moonshine, a knife or even a cheeky miniature gun to catch out people who think they were unarmed. So, in conclusion, Bootleg, Illegal, comes down to the same thing you old pirate you, or is that you old cowboy you. Wagon Train to the Stars AZSneed, Wagon Train to the Stars. ;)

How about "The Unofficial Soundtrack Collection" and avoid the whole debate?

Hmmmm, I see your point, but these were unreleased session recordings, soooooooo I think those are classed as Bootleg. Now to validate your point, the Oxford English Dictionary, finds the first use of the phrase in the Omaha Herald in 1889:
"There is as much whisky consumed in Iowa now as there was before..."for medical purposes only," and on the boot-leg plan."

A "bootleg" refers to the long leather boots worn by cowboys in the olden days of the wild wild west. These cowboys (the naughty fellows) used to put all kinds of illegal stuff into them, including things like moonshine, a knife or even a cheeky miniature gun to catch out people who think they were unarmed. So, in conclusion, Bootleg, Illegal, comes down to the same thing you old pirate you, or is that you old cowboy you. Wagon Train to the Stars AZSneed, Wagon Train to the Stars. ;)

Just an http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif pegged leg cowboy.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thumbup.gif
Bootleg will do, if you like it. I do really like your cover, real classy.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/wave.gif

How bout if you don't like a cover, don't download and make one yourself. For now, this has been the only attempt.

As for "bootleg", any unofficially released score fits under that umbrella, including your beloved complete scores and recording sessions. In my personal library, all such albums are laveled bootleg.

How bout if you don't like a cover, don't download and make one yourself. For now, this has been the only attempt.

As for "bootleg", any unofficially released score fits under that umbrella, including your beloved complete scores and recording sessions. In my personal library, all such albums are laveled bootleg.

I was just trying to offer a happy compromise that encompassed any non-licensed release without carrying an implication of self-incrimination, not a criticism of your work.

It is NOT my work. You quoted and addressed the wrong person.

It is NOT my work. You quoted and addressed the wrong person.

Sorry. How about: "I was just trying to offer a happy compromise that encompassed any non-licensed release without carrying an implication of self-incrimination, not a criticism of the work."

Nice cover! How about "UN-RELEASED recording session music"? "Pirate" and "Bootleg" just sound so criminal, and I would not consider anyone here to be a criminal, no matter what the MPAA has to say on the subject! As a matter of fact, since the studios spend nickels, (one time only) and rake in dollars all over the place, for all time to come, I think of that as being criminal!

William

...for all time to come...

You know, that's the part the pisses me off the most, be it music, films, et cetera. They tie up ownership of this stuff six ways from Sunday, don't (won't) release it for people to purchase, then when someone makes a copy available through unofficial channels they scream about lost revenues. What lost revenues? How can anyone claim "lost revenues" from a product that isn't available to purchase at any price?

How about "UN-RELEASED recording session music"? "Pirate" and "Bootleg" just sound so criminal
that music was not released! IT ESCAPED!

WE MUST CAPTURE IT BEFORE IT KILLS AGAIN!

that music was not released! IT ESCAPED!

WE MUST CAPTURE IT BEFORE IT KILLS AGAIN!

"Phasers set to Stun...Sir! we will get the little bugger's" ;)

Scott

Yes, I concur, completely! AND... I also think that it is criminal that the MPAA has all of the law enforcement officers in the nation (the world???) protecting their interests! Let me see, who do we know that had that sort of pull with the LEOs?? Oh, YEAH, Al Capone! :) It's just so corrupt that the movie industry throw out nickels to the artists, the actors, the composers and the writers, and take in MILLIONS on the first run, then, they "Sell" the DVDs to the public, but you don't "own" the DVD, you don't "own" the content! It's like paying on a house for a 30 year contract with the bank, but you don't "own" your house, because you still have to pay "property tax" every year to the feds! If that's not "tribute" to the system, I don't know what is! If you don't pay the tribute, they come out and take your house away. When you die, then there's another tax to pay, so your loved ones can hold onto the house, but sooner or later, the feds are going to get it back! The land is theirs! bottom line!
Same with the studios, they hold onto all entitled rights to their movie, and will not let it go, EVER! And we are paying taxes to pay the LEO's salary, so they can go out and arrest people who are the "pirates"!

Just sticks in my KRAW!!!


(Not Kraw!!! KRAW!!!) Hehhehehehehe :)

End of rant!

William

I still prefer bootleg. It is concise and clear and an age old description from way before digi sharing.

I still prefer bootleg. It is concise and clear and an age old description from way before digi sharing.

Yep, I like Bootleg, I have always used it for soundboard recordings of live shows.

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Yes, I concur, completely! AND... I also think that it is criminal that the MPAA has all of the law enforcement officers in the nation (the world???) protecting their interests! Let me see, who do we know that had that sort of pull with the LEOs?? Oh, YEAH, Al Capone! :) It's just so corrupt that the movie industry throw out nickels to the artists, the actors, the composers and the writers, and take in MILLIONS on the first run, then, they "Sell" the DVDs to the public, but you don't "own" the DVD, you don't "own" the content! It's like paying on a house for a 30 year contract with the bank, but you don't "own" your house, because you still have to pay "property tax" every year to the feds! If that's not "tribute" to the system, I don't know what is! If you don't pay the tribute, they come out and take your house away. When you die, then there's another tax to pay, so your loved ones can hold onto the house, but sooner or later, the feds are going to get it back! The land is theirs! bottom line!
Same with the studios, they hold onto all entitled rights to their movie, and will not let it go, EVER! And we are paying taxes to pay the LEO's salary, so they can go out and arrest people who are the "pirates"!

Just sticks in my KRAW!!!


(Not Kraw!!! KRAW!!!) Hehhehehehehe :)

End of rant!

William

I totally understand what you are saying. They are greedy. By the way, did you like the top spine logo on my cover (if you downloaded it ;) )

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Yes, I concur, completely! AND... I also think that it is criminal that the MPAA has all of the law enforcement officers in the nation (the world???) protecting their interests! Let me see, who do we know that had that sort of pull with the LEOs?? Oh, YEAH, Al Capone! :) It's just so corrupt that the movie industry throw out nickels to the artists, the actors, the composers and the writers, and take in MILLIONS on the first run, then, they "Sell" the DVDs to the public, but you don't "own" the DVD, you don't "own" the content! It's like paying on a house for a 30 year contract with the bank, but you don't "own" your house, because you still have to pay "property tax" every year to the feds! If that's not "tribute" to the system, I don't know what is! If you don't pay the tribute, they come out and take your house away. When you die, then there's another tax to pay, so your loved ones can hold onto the house, but sooner or later, the feds are going to get it back! The land is theirs! bottom line!
Same with the studios, they hold onto all entitled rights to their movie, and will not let it go, EVER! And we are paying taxes to pay the LEO's salary, so they can go out and arrest people who are the "pirates"!

Just sticks in my KRAW!!!


(Not Kraw!!! KRAW!!!) Hehhehehehehe :)

End of rant!

William

And the Executives wonder why millions of other sites still excites!! because there is always someone out their that is willing to fight!! and fight we shall.

Scott

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Yep, I like Bootleg, I have always used it for soundboard recordings of live shows.

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I totally understand what you are saying. They are greedy. By the way, did you like the top spine logo on my cover (if you downloaded it ;) )

"WT69" fits perfectly my friend, thou I'm sure William or someone else will come up with something funny to say on the numbers LOOOL :)

Scott

go out and arrest people who are the "pirates"!

I agree. The music industry is worse than the movie industry in many ways. The bit about buying a house for 30 years was very much like what Don Henley (I think it was Henley) told Congress about the record industry. If you want to sign a deal with a record label you have to sign away all rights to the music you record to the label (unless you are already a monster artist like McCartney). So, right off, the'y've essentially stolen the music from the artist. Then they only pay you small royalty on each album sold. At least that sounds like something but it is really less than it sounds. Any cost associated with the recording, manufacture, distribution and promotion of the album or the artist -- or anything which can be labeled as such -- is charged against the artists royalties: All the studio time, the catering at the studio, release parties, awards (who do you think is paying for the gold record plaque you got? You are. We just buried it in the promotion costs), the executives family vacation to Tahiti (hey, he stopped at a record store and mentioned your album)...everything. Plus, there are the albums that don't get paid royalties: promotional albums to radio stations, to executives, et cetera, plus anything sold through a club counts as a promotional album that you don't get paid a royalty for (now you know why so many record labels -- and movie studios, for that matter -- have their clubs)...Then, after years of paying out for the costs of the "production" and "promotion" of the album comes the final insult which Henley described. That even if you get to the point where you've paid all the expenses (though the label will work hard to ensure that never happens -- on paper, at any rate) you still don't own your own music, tus the analogy Henley used about making payments to your mortgage company for 30 years only to be told they still own the house so kindly move out.

Essentially, a recording contract with a major label is indentured servitude. Without even the minuscule benefits of indentured servitude.

I totally understand what you are saying. They are greedy. By the way, did you like the top spine logo on my cover (if you downloaded it ;) )



I hadn't even noticed that little "WT69" up there, that was GREAT!!! I was laughing my ass off. My wife, when I pointed that out to her, said, "But someone could think that "WT69" is the pirate that is producing the CD, and trying to sell them online". I told her that it doesn't matter because "WT69" really does not exsist, except online! :)

It was a nice tribute and I thank you, I am most honorably humbled, my friend! :)


William

I hadn't even noticed that little "WT69" up there, that was GREAT!!! I was laughing my ass off. My wife, when I pointed that out to her, said, "But someone could think that "WT69" is the pirate that is producing the CD, and trying to sell them online". I told her that it doesn't matter because "WT69" really does not exsist, except online! :)

It was a nice tribute and I thank you, I am most honorably humbled, my friend! :)


William

It's my pleasure. It's you we need to thank for getting us the music in the first place. Also assure your wife that WT69 could mean anything, as your full online name was not used (as that is something I would never do without getting permission first). I should also have the next cover ready for tonight once I've collected my eldest from scouts and got him all sorted for bed. :D

OK, Here we are, a cover for Volume 2. Keeping the style the same as I'm doing them as a set. As this has been released on BluRay I have been able to use a screen cap. Next one I'm not so lucky. So I have recreated one of the pictures from scratch using different images and creating a composite.



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Your a very talented Man!! well done :)

Scott

Your a very talented Man!! well done :)

Scott
Thank you Scotty, you are very kind my friend. :D

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Does anyone have a track listing for the bootlegs of Relics and Yesterdays Enterprise? I need these for the covers.

Thank you :)

Thank you Scotty, you are very kind my friend. :D

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Does anyone have a track listing for the bootlegs of Relics and Yesterdays Enterprise? I need these for the covers.

Thank you :)

Just stating a fact! and your quite welcome!

Scott

I don't know of any track listings for Relics or Yesterdays Enterprise. Those were actually recording sessions, and there were only the cue tracks on those. I think that you could listen to the music and watch the episode and just make it up as you go!

Good luck, hehehehehe :)

William

yep, those are just labeled track 1, track 2, etc.

I don't know of any track listings for Relics or Yesterdays Enterprise. Those were actually recording sessions, and there were only the cue tracks on those. I think that you could listen to the music and watch the episode and just make it up as you go!

Good luck, hehehehehe :)

William

Yeah. Never been too good at that, plus my wife does not like star trek....well not just star trek, science fiction as a whole. She likes Star Wars, and she sort of likes Doctor Who (not as much since David Tennant left) mind you, she'd have a tough time in this house with my two boys and I, if she didn't like Dr Who LOL.

So this means I do not get to watch as much as I'd like.

Another awesome cover, thanks!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif



Where are the liner notes?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

Yeah. Never been too good at that, plus my wife does not like star trek....well not just star trek, science fiction as a whole. She likes Star Wars, and she sort of likes Doctor Who (not as much since David Tennant left) mind you, she'd have a tough time in this house with my two boys and I, if she didn't like Dr Who LOL.

So this means I do not get to watch as much as I'd like.

I know exactly how you feel!! my two sons love Sci-Fi, my ex-wife not at all, it was always a fun time around my house when we wanted to watch TV and my ex-wife want to watch re-runs of "Little Out-House's On The Prairie" the boys and I had to go into our bed room to watch what we wanted to and of course she belly ached about being left in the living room by her self, while we had a great time! even to this day, my sons don't like to watch TV with their mother...lol I wonder why!! :)

Scott

These STTNG covers are very nice

I would love to see your take on the recent release of music from TOS as well as Enterprise

Yeah. Never been too good at that, plus my wife does not like star trek .

WHAT????? Well, then just WHY did you marry her??? That would be grounds for divorce in California! Hehehehehe :)

I know, my wife is not "Crazy" about Trek either, but it has put bread on the table, and new clothes in her closet, so she just looks the other way. Ever since our daughter has been into Trek, she's gotten a little better, but only with TOS! It's a start! :)

William

I know exactly how you feel!! my two sons love Sci-Fi, my ex-wife not at all, it was always a fun time around my house when we wanted to watch TV and my ex-wife want to watch re-runs of "Little Out-House's On The Prairie" the boys and I had to go into our bed room to watch what we wanted to and of course she belly ached about being left in the living room by her self, while we had a great time! even to this day, my sons don't like to watch TV with their mother...lol I wonder why!! :)

Scott

Well, as I said, she does watch Doctor Who with us, so there is a little give there ;). We watch other stuff when she works weekends, so that's not so bad either.

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WHAT????? Well, then just WHY did you marry her??? That would be grounds for divorce in California! Hehehehehe :)

I know, my wife is not "Crazy" about Trek either, but it has put bread on the table, and new clothes in her closet, so she just looks the other way. Ever since our daughter has been into Trek, she's gotten a little better, but only with TOS! It's a start! :)

William

I can't divorce her, I say wife, but we arn't married, just lived in sin for 15 years, however we are as good as married. Emma has had to like Dr Who (or the Cult of Who as she calls it) because the rest of us love it, but I've never got any other Sci-Fi past her.

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These STTNG covers are very nice

I would love to see your take on the recent release of music from TOS as well as Enterprise

Thank you. If there are official covers out there I don't generally re do them, unless they were part of a set and they decided to make it look totally different to the others ( I had to re do the cover for the Indiana Jones DVD Kingdom of the Crystal skull so it matched my box set of the other ones, sad I know but I couldn't bare them being different. That's probably a touch of OCD maybe LOL).
Sooooo, I don't think I'll be doing the TOS stuff.

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Another awesome cover, thanks!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif



Where are the liner notes?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

Thank you :D Ah, the liner notes are on the other side, it's white writing on a white background ;)

Thanks Yannis. Would love links to this. One of my favorite Dirty Harry movies.

Thanks Yannis. Would love links to this. One of my favorite Dirty Harry movies.

Good luck with this one ;) Are you sure you don't mean Dirty Spock?

Well, as I said, she does watch Doctor Who with us, so there is a little give there ;). We watch other stuff when she works weekends, so that's not so bad either.

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I can't divorce her, I say wife, but we arn't married, just lived in sin for 15 years, however we are as good as married. Emma has had to like Dr Who (or the Cult of Who as she calls it) because the rest of us love it, but I've never got any other Sci-Fi past her.

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Thank you. If there are official covers out there I don't generally re do them, unless they were part of a set and they decided to make it look totally different to the others ( I had to re do the cover for the Indiana Jones DVD Kingdom of the Crystal skull so it matched my box set of the other ones, sad I know but I couldn't bare them being different. That's probably a touch of OCD maybe LOL).
Sooooo, I don't think I'll be doing the TOS stuff.

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Thank you :D Ah, the liner notes are on the other side, it's white writing on a white background ;)

At lest you have some gave and take! all I got was give!! and it was always one sided...so enjoy your time with her and your son's, because the time will come when it just goes back you two again. Your not living in sin my friend...(I'm sure this will start a fire storm so be warned) I have yet to find one marriage ceremony in the Bible, what we know of marriage today, is Man's Conception! so your safe.

Scott

Right, here is the covers for Relics. Since there were no track titles for this, and I can't watch the episode in such a way that would allow me to identify the tracks, I have left them blank. However, I have included the font I use on the back for anyone who wants to put in their own titles. The font I use is League Gothic. I had to recreate the image on the front as I could find no Hi-Res images from this episode, least ways not of the enterprise and the Borg cube. So if I've used the wrong season enterprise or something please forgive me (I will confess I would not know. I would be able to tell you if you used the wrong season TARDIS in an image, so I'm sure it would have changed in the seven year run).



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At lest you have some gave and take! all I got was give!! and it was always one sided...so enjoy your time with her and your son's, because the time will come when it just goes back you two again. Your not living in sin my friend...(I'm sure this will start a fire storm so be warned) I have yet to find one marriage ceremony in the Bible, what we know of marriage today, is Man's Conception! so your safe.

Scott

Ooh, When it's the two of us again I might get a study, where I can sit and listen to my music whilst on the PC. However, being an older parent (We had William, my William not William here, no confusion this time ;) when I was 40) I'll be old when it's just the two of us again.

We are just as committed as any married couple.......or should that be We should be committed ;)

Pearlcorderman, your covers looks awsome!!!

Pearlcorderman, your covers looks awsome!!!

Thank you Crunch75 :)

Right, here is the covers for Relics. Since there were no track titles for this, and I can't watch the episode in such a way that would allow me to identify the tracks, I have left them blank. However, I have included the font I use on the back for anyone who wants to put in their own titles. The font I use is League Gothic. I had to recreate the image on the front as I could find no Hi-Res images from this episode, least ways not of the enterprise and the Borg cube. So if I've used the wrong season enterprise or something please forgive me (I will confess I would not know. I would be able to tell you if you used the wrong season TARDIS in an image, so I'm sure it would have changed in the seven year run).



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Ooh, When it's the two of us again I might get a study, where I can sit and listen to my music whilst on the PC. However, being an older parent (We had William, my William not William here, no confusion this time ;) when I was 40) I'll be old when it's just the two of us again.

We are just as committed as any married couple.......or should that be We should be committed ;)

As every marriage should be! your differently committed because you both except your responsibility for each other, but for your son's as well...which is more then I can say for a lot of other people in the world today. William (your William) not the William here (not confused at all :) ) is a proud name! 40 or 50 who cares!! my middle brother and his wife can not have children, so they adopted 4 kids (2 boys, 2 girls) and he is going to be 54 next month and his kids are 7,8,10 and 18! (they got the boys (Johnny & Kevin) when they were infants and the youngest girl Priscilla when she was 3 years old) more the merrier!! but he loves them dearly and he has diabetes, works at their local school, along with his wife, plays in a band (drummer) and they all drive him up the wall :) and he is still plugging away at life...but enjoys every minute of it. Hell I'm old (55) and I now have my own room for my things! and my boys still want to remake over my man cave, so they can take the excess for themselves! lol like they will not get it after I'm gone anyway!! I'll get plenty of rest after I'm dead!!! "Live, Drink and be Marry...for Tomorrow we shall die" (Yes I am half Italian on my dads side) anyway I love your cover for Relics!! you could do this professionally for record labels!! "Tracks!!...We Don't Need No Stinking Tracks" hahahahaha

Scott

As every marriage should be! your differently committed because you both except your responsibility for each other, but for your son's as well...which is more then I can say for a lot of other people in the world today. William (your William) not the William here (not confused at all :) ) is a proud name! 40 or 50 who cares!! my middle brother and his wife can not have children, so they adopted 4 kids (2 boys, 2 girls) and he is going to be 54 next month and his kids are 7,8,10 and 18! (they got the boys (Johnny & Kevin) when they were infants and the youngest girl Priscilla when she was 3 years old) more the merrier!! but he loves them dearly and he has diabetes, works at their local school, along with his wife, plays in a band (drummer) and they all drive him up the wall :) and he is still plugging away at life...but enjoys every minute of it. Hell I'm old (55) and I now have my own room for my things! and my boys still want to remake over my man cave, so they can take the excess for themselves! lol like they will not get it after I'm gone anyway!! I'll get plenty of rest after I'm dead!!! "Live, Drink and be Marry...for Tomorrow we shall die" (Yes I am half Italian on my dads side) anyway I love your cover for Relics!! you could do this professionally for record labels!! "Tracks!!...We Don't Need No Stinking Tracks" hahahahaha

Scott

You are of course right, and I love my boys to pieces. I'd love to do graphic design professionally, but I've left it a little late. If I were to go into the industry now they would either laugh at me or take me on as an apprentice/junior, and I could not take the paydrop as I have responsibilities. Plus I'm probably not good enough for todays market, or quick enough LOL.

Another impressive cover! Relics, one of my most favorite episodes, because of Scotty.

Scott, I'm right behind you, I'm 54, and I don't want to catch up to you.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

anyone have active links to voyager rips? i'd love some of the chattaway stuff, especially 'blood fever' and 'dark frontier'

You are of course right, and I love my boys to pieces. I'd love to do graphic design professionally, but I've left it a little late. If I were to go into the industry now they would either laugh at me or take me on as an apprentice/junior, and I could not take the paydrop as I have responsibilities. Plus I'm probably not good enough for todays market, or quick enough LOL.

I know you do! you can read it in your words :) I have a friend I have known for 38 years, he used to be a Deputy Sheriff (like me but in the county next to mine...confused yet?) anyway his youngest son works for the PD (Police Department in the city where I live, he is about the same age as my oldest son...(confused even more? hehehehe) and I did whats called "A Ride Along" (you ride with an officer for a shift-about 12 hours) man, let me tell you what a difference!!! compared to when I was on the force, they have to be Law Enforcement Officer, Medic, Priest, Social Worker, Marriage Counselor, and about 10 other things!!! I felt like a 97 thousand year old man! all we did was respond to a call (radio! thats all we had and a map) and if we had to bust a few heads, there was no reports to file, just call for an ambulance!! the inside of their patrol vehicle looks like the cockpit of the space shuttle!! I was so freak'n overwhelmed I did not know what to do!! they had all kinds of computerized devices with him, more damn beeps, boops and flashing lights, and a damn old fashioned radio on top of that! (well not old, but just a modern radio) GPS monitors their location, shows them the best and fastest route to drive to a call...no more paper reports to fill out, it's done on a tablet now!!!, push a button and it is sent to HQ electronically (I bet I used about 100 gallons of Whiteout by the time I retired) by the time I was done I thought I came from a old disco room :) so I know about feeling slow. I just thank God I'm retired!!! How they handle all that I will never know!! I feel your pain my friend!!

Scott

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Another impressive cover! Relics, one of my most favorite episodes, because of Scotty.

Scott, I'm right behind you, I'm 54, and I don't want to catch up to you.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

LOL Like it or not you will!! The Lord willin and the creek don't rise....yeah I'm not look'n forward to getting older either! but it can be fun....which is one project I'm working on now!! preparing my son's for the "Grumpy Old Man" routine...this way I get left alone a lot more (no one whats to be around a grumpy old fart hehehehe), plus I can spoil the S*it out of any grandkids I get and get way with it!! (insert evil laugh) LOOOOOOL

Scott

I worked in Steel Fabrication shops for almost 25 years, now retired since 2004. During those years the only real change, was on a piece of equipment had a computer on it, otherwise, it was the same as when I started in my first shop. I wished the industry had gotten modern. I started in the stone age, and ended in the late stone age. Yabba Dabba Do!

Another impressive cover! Relics, one of my most favorite episodes, because of Scotty.

Scott, I'm right behind you, I'm 54, and I don't want to catch up to you.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Well, I feel.... young again! (I'm 52 in 25 days!) :)

I worked in Steel Fabrication shops for almost 25 years, now retired since 2004. During those years the only real change, was on a piece of equipment had a computer on it, otherwise, it was the same as when I started in my first shop. I wished the industry had gotten modern. I started in the stone age, and ended in the late stone age. Yabba Dabba Do!

Yeah my brother was a welder when he was younger, and man somethings change and somethings don't!! plasma cutters, computerized welders, computerized cutters...but in the end the old way is still the best! my brother made a BBQ for me and my younger brother out of steel pipe (cut the pipe in half-must have been quarter inch steel-welded some hinges on the back side, four legs, two exhaust ports on top and little j-hooks to hang things on) I tell you that thing was big enough you could cook a whole side of beef in it! took 4 strong guys to move it, drop a 5 kiloton nuke on it and it would be the only thing standing for miles, clean it off and damned if it would not work like new....and glow a cherry red at night! made the best BBQ I have ever tasted and is still around after all these years of sitting in the sun and rain!! just get a couple of can's of black spray paint and it looks like new...my son's will be using it on their kids, and their kids after them. Older people are like fine wine...the older it gets the better it is!! [bangs on the door after being locked out by the cat] WILMA!

Scott

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Well, I feel.... young again! (I'm 52 in 25 days!) :)

(In case I forget! old age you know :) ) Happy Birthday Soundtrekker!!! and you don't look a day over a thousand years ;)


Scott

Well...remember, we have to grow http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif, but we don't have to grow up!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo.gif

Well...remember, we have to grow http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif, but we don't have to grow up!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo.gif

That's what I'm working on, I don't want grow up, I'm peter pan. I seem to be one of the youngest here at 45, listening to my damn loud rock music ;)

00 Prologue Star Trek IV The Voyage Home ? Info ou Intox ?

00 Prologue Star Trek IV The Voyage Home ? Info ou Intox ?

Are you stating something, or asking.

Either way... what exactly ?.

If you are looking for the European Prologue, this was posted a while back by Faleel in the thread...

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/star-trek-iv-voyage-home-leonard-rosenman-105752/2.html

The link is no longer active, but here it is in a password protected shell...

Link: http://www.peejeshare.com/files/363520901/sec.env.d254.rar.html

Password: Orion999

If you are looking for information as to what it is, then check Faleel's explanation in that thread.

reupload 00 prologue star trek 4 please

That's what I'm working on, I don't want grow up, I'm peter pan. I seem to be one of the youngest here at 45, listening to my damn loud rock music ;)

At lest you can hear your music...you old fart! ;)

Scott

WHAT DID YOU SAY!

WHAT DID YOU SAY!

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At lest you can hear your music...you old fart! ;)

Scott

Did you both want me to turn my music down?

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Did you both want me to turn my music down?

Nah!! I have a glass of milk and with all the shacking I can have a milkshake with my dinner :)


Scott

Turn it down, unless it's Pink Floyd, then crank it up!

Mer�i beaucoup, vous �tes un chef.
Be me up bishtyboshty
Thank you very much, you are the chief

I know, it's not really TREK, but just about everything else, check this out:

The Jupiter 2 Lost but not forgotten on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/53747144)

Really amazing work!

Enjoy, William

I know, it's not really TREK, but just about everything else, check this out:

The Jupiter 2 Lost but not forgotten on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/53747144)

Really amazing work!

Enjoy, William

A wonderful Eagle too...

I know, it's not really TREK, but just about everything else, check this out:

The Jupiter 2 Lost but not forgotten on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/53747144)

Really amazing work!

Enjoy, William

I like to think we are very cosmopolitan on this thread or would that be COSMOSpolitan ;)

It is amazing, and it is a model. Here is the link on the building it...Building the JUPITER 2 with Bill George (http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=46170)

Also, this reminds me of my twisted thinking. I saw on Youtube the video that said, "Star Trek will not be seen tonight, so we may show the following program on NBC..." and I envisioned them say..."Last week the Robinsons...".

Volume 4 Face of the Enemy covers are now available. Once again I had to recreate a front cover image, so I apologise once again if I have used incorrect season ships. I hope you enjoy.



Link: Download Mug of the baddies.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8tkkwg)

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Volume 4 Face of the Enemy covers are now available. Once again I had to recreate a front cover image, so I apologise once again if I have used incorrect season ships. I hope you enjoy.



Link: Download Mug of the baddies.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8tkkwg)

Password: Goldensands

Another work of art!!! Take a Bow :)

Scott

I'm with Scott on this, work of art! Thanks!

Another work of art!!! Take a Bow :)

Scott

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I'm with Scott on this, work of art! Thanks!

Thank you very much Guys, that is much appreciated. :)

woah, great work!!!!!!!!!

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I like to think we are very cosmopolitan on this thread or would that be COSMOSpolitan ;)

It's Cospockidican pal! :D

woah, great work!!!!!!!!!

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It's Cospockidican pal! :D

LOL

I know, it's not really TREK, but just about everything else, check this out:

The Jupiter 2 Lost but not forgotten on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/53747144)

Really amazing work!

Enjoy, William
Just a shame that the original designers haven't put much thought into it. No room for the second deck, no room for the ships flight drive, no room for the crew quarters, no room for the chariot, no room for that small craft... :(

Just a shame that the original designers haven't put much thought into it. No room for the second deck, no room for the ships flight drive, no room for the crew quarters, no room for the chariot, no room for that small craft... :(

And it doesn't fly to alien worlds !.

Another great CD label, thanks, Pearlcorderman! :)

I laugh everytime that I see the Jupiter 2, and remember one episode where Will Robinson had to go down to the "engine room", so he took the elevator down to the 2nd level, pushed a button to open a door, and then climbed down some ladder to the THIRD level, which was warehouse sized! HOLY raging Robinson robots! Even Doctor Smith didn't think up anything that LAME!!! Hehehehehe :)

The second level should have been just about 3/4 the size of the main level, just to allow 7 foot of ceiling space, as the sets showed. and the ship should have been much large in diameter, to allow space for all the extras, like the pod and the chariot. I really liked the size of the Jupiter in the movie, before it exploded and turned into the new Jupiter 2! It was the right size, even more so, than the old TV version. I recall that the full sized ship was really BIG (or I was really small) and I remember that it seemed larger than what you saw on TV! I wonder what ever happened to the full sized model.

William

Another great CD label, thanks, Pearlcorderman! :)

I laugh everytime that I see the Jupiter 2, and remember one episode where Will Robinson had to go down to the "engine room", so he took the elevator down to the 2nd level, pushed a button to open a door, and then climbed down some ladder to the THIRD level, which was warehouse sized! HOLY raging Robinson robots! Even Doctor Smith didn't think up anything that LAME!!! Hehehehehe :)

The second level should have been just about 3/4 the size of the main level, just to allow 7 foot of ceiling space, as the sets showed. and the ship should have been much large in diameter, to allow space for all the extras, like the pod and the chariot. I really liked the size of the Jupiter in the movie, before it exploded and turned into the new Jupiter 2! It was the right size, even more so, than the old TV version. I recall that the full sized ship was really BIG (or I was really small) and I remember that it seemed larger than what you saw on TV! I wonder what ever happened to the full sized model.

William

Glad you like it :D

I always wondered about that when I watched LiS as a boy on Sunday mornings. Scale always annoys me when its wrong. (says a Doctor Who fan who accepts transdimensional engineering with the TARDIS LOL), I always pick up on it, even in kids programmes that my children watched. "Hey that room is far to big to be in the Ninky Nonk" my other half tells me to stop being picky, and that's it's only a kids programme. Well forgive me, but just because they are kids does not mean we have to teach them that scale is irrelevant and a rooms are transdimensionaly engineered.



Rant over ;)

Blimey, has anyone seen the argument and furore that's going on in the film score threads, with kgray sharing "holy grail" stuff. It's getting really nasty with threats and everything. I'm so glad that does not happen here (well, apart from you know who who's been banned a few times) and that we have a nice little community. Some people can be so nasty.

I don't even understand the argument they're having over there. It feels like celebs wars but without anyone being one. When did become sharing a device for once ego? Weird.

i havent seen any arguments anywhere ...

LOL

Volume 5 "Hide and Q" Covers now available for your downloading delight. Just a few more covers to go to complete this set.



Link: Download Hide that letter.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/if5n6c)

Password: Goldensands

Blimey, has anyone seen the argument and furore that's going on in the film score threads, with kgray sharing "holy grail" stuff. It's getting really nasty with threats and everything. I'm so glad that does not happen here (well, apart from you know who who's been banned a few times) and that we have a nice little community. Some people can be so nasty.

There you go saying things about my nastiness http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thunhappy.gif....but, I love the attention...I would pick on you...the ranting wore me out.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

Volume 5 "Hide and Q" Covers now available for your downloading delight. Just a few more covers to go to complete this set.

Link: Download Hide that letter.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/if5n6c)

Password: Goldensands

Hmmm... I don't have that one...I don't even recall seeing it posted anywhere. *arches eyebrow*

Hmmm... I don't have that one...I don't even recall seeing it posted anywhere. *arches eyebrow*

Thread 119769

If you look at Amanda's first post, you will find Q hiding there

Excellent CD cover. These are great addition to my collection, thanks again!

For a 1.87 MB file, it took me 5 time before I got the WHOLE file....dial-up SUCKS!

Excellent CD cover. These are great addition to my collection, thanks again!

For a 1.87 MB file, it took me 5 time before I got the WHOLE file....dial-up SUCKS!

Dial up.....Dial up.... are you in the dark ages? ;) I don't think I could ever go back to dial up. believe it or not I used to do torrents on dial up. I remember it took weeks to download a 50 minute video. I understand your pain AZSneed.

Yesterday's Enterprise is now complete. Well I say COMPLETE, there are no track listings. Once again I have left these blank as the mp3 files were not named, so if you'd like to fill them in yourself you can. Afraid I had to use CGI ships for this cover, I hope that does not make you hate it.



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Hate you.....let me think.....Ummm.......http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/devil.gif

Thanks again!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thumbup.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thumbup.gif

Have to join in - damn nice covers :)

Hey, Two covers tonight you lucky people, and the last one to boot. The Suites Cover, with the very snazzy 3 narcel Enterprise. Slight change to the back as it would have been very dull if I had left it like the rest, so there is a synopsis of each episode (thanks to TNG :: TrekCore (http://tng.trekcore.com/))



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Password: Goldensands

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Hate you.....let me think.....Ummm.......http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/devil.gif

Thanks again!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thumbup.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thumbup.gif



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Have to join in - damn nice covers :)

Thank you Guys :D

I guess someone has already been taking notes on the last "suites" but i thought i'd post these tracklistings anyway:
(reservations for me mis-hearing what they say...)

Star Trek 149 - Ensigns of Command1 - m11 take 1
2 - m11 take 2
3 - m12
4 - m13 take 3
5 - m14 take 3
6 - m15 take 2
7 - m16 take 1
8 - m17 take 2
9 - m18 take 1
10 - m18 alt A take 6
11 - m21 take 4
12 - m22 take 1
13 - m22 alt A take 1
14 - m31 take 3
15 - m32 take 2
16 - m33 take 3
17 - m34 take 2
18 - m41 take 3
19 - m42 take 3
20 - m43 take 3
21 - m51 take 4
22 - m52 take 1
23 - m53 take 1
24 - m54 take 3
25 - m55 take 5

Star Trek 230 - Relics1 - m52 take 3
2 - m51 take 3
3 - m44 take 1
4 - m41 take 3
5 - m41 alt. A pickup take 4
6 - m34 take 4
7 - m11 take 3
8 - m12 rev 1 take 1
9 - m12 rev 1 alt take 2
10 - m12 rev 2 take 2
11 - m12 alt A rev 2 take 1
12 - m32 take 3
13 - m32 alt A take 9
14 - m13 take 3
15 - m14 take 1
16 - m15 take 4
17 - m21 take 3
18 - m22 take 1
19 - m22 alt A take 3
20 - m33 take 2
21 - m33 alt A take 2
22 - m31 alt A take 1
23 - m31 take 1
24 - m43 take 1
25 - m42 take 2
26 - m53 take 8
27 - m52 alt A kept version

Here's the complete set for you all to see.

Glad you like it :D

I always wondered about that when I watched LiS as a boy on Sunday mornings. Scale always annoys me when its wrong. (says a Doctor Who fan who accepts transdimensional engineering with the TARDIS LOL), I always pick up on it, even in kids programmes that my children watched. "Hey that room is far to big to be in the Ninky Nonk" my other half tells me to stop being picky, and that's it's only a kids programme. Well forgive me, but just because they are kids does not mean we have to teach them that scale is irrelevant and a rooms are transdimensionaly engineered.



Rant over ;)

I was the same way as a kid too. When watching TMNT it annoyed me greatly whenever the animators botched the size of the Technodrome (the mobile fortress of the villains which is almost as tall as the Empire state building). In later seasons it began to feel as if the animators started to use toys as size reference! Sheesh.

And since this is a Star Trek thread... what's the deal with Deep space 9?! The saucer of USS Enterprise D ought to be bigger than it! Was it really hard to make its windows smaller and thus give it bigger appearance? And that last scene of the series when camera zooms out of the stations... the size of Kira and Jake at the window made DS9 look ridiculously small!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v69MVQIywk

Excellent CD cover. These are great addition to my collection, thanks again!

For a 1.87 MB file, it took me 5 time before I got the WHOLE file....dial-up SUCKS!

Holy Crap Man!! you must live in the Ozarks!! If I had to go back to dial-up I'd go nuts!! my sympathies are with you...:(

Scott

Here's the complete set for you all to see.



Thank you for making the set complete very quickly

I know you said that you wouldn't do custom designs for the new tos music release, but it still would be nice to see your take on covers for "ST:Enterprise"

I am planning to get DSL this year, faster if I win Publishers sweepstakes.

I am planning to get DSL this year, faster if I win Publishers sweepstakes.

I'll keep my fingers crossed then.

I'll keep my fingers crossed then.

My eyes and toes if it would help!

Scott

Thanks! When I get it, I will be like a kid in a toy store with downloading all of the Star Trek music.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo.gif

I am planning to get DSL this year, faster if I win Publishers sweepstakes.

You must live in a rural area! the only ISP around here that still offers dial-up is AOHell(L) good luck!

Scott

Thanks! Yes, in a rural area. Only AT&T offers it here. I now have Earthlink, but, they don't offer DSL here.

My brother has AT&T DSL, and he ain't bragging! But it will beat my fastest download....5.5 kbps, I do get 50.6 kbps connection speed with my 56k modem. It beats what I had 6 yeas ago, 26.6 kbps connection speed!

In case anybody hasn't heard yet:

CONFIRMED: J.J. Abrams to direct next ‘Star Wars’ for Disney

(Source: trekmovie.com)

Not that I care much... what I'm looking forward, anyway, is the re-surrection of trek on tv, after the third nu-trek installment, with new actors, producers and writers, who know their trek!

VERY Nice CD covers, thanks. And a very nice display, Pearlcorderman! :)

William

VERY Nice CD covers, thanks. And a very nice display, Pearlcorderman! :)

William

Thank you William. Well the music deserves covers. I enjoyed listening to them. I don't have anything i can offer on the star trek threads, and I don't like just being take take. So this is the only way I feel I can give something back for all the wonderful things I've got here. :D

Star Wars - JJA version, will be like Star Trek JJA version....fast, big, loud, but no story. You get through and think, "What was that movie about?"

Thanks! Yes, in a rural area. Only AT&T offers it here. I now have Earthlink, but, they don't offer DSL here.

My brother has AT&T DSL, and he ain't bragging! But it will beat my fastest download....5.5 kbps, I do get 50.6 kbps connection speed with my 56k modem. It beats what I had 6 yeas ago, 26.6 kbps connection speed!

Thats what I use AT&T U-verse fastest I have seen, other then a T1 line. I hope you get it soon.

Scott

Wow, i think i must consider myself lucky, i always felt 3mb/s were rather crappy. But then Germany is not as vast as the US.

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Star Wars - JJA version, will be like Star Trek JJA version....fast, big, loud, but no story. You get through and think, "What was that movie about?"

For Star Trek and Star Wars it's rather a real bad thing, but please follow me here for a minute a two: For Hollywood and storytelling this is rather a good thing overall. Because these are the signs of cultural stagnation. And JJA is part of that cultural stagnation, not the new wonderful new wave in creativity that is awaiting us. Like the times when Asimov was new, when Star Trek was new, when the Twilight Zone was new. And US Television already is ahead of the game. Rejuvenation-of-the-movie-industry-(and-we-are-not-talking-3D)-within-the-next-decade coming to a theatre near you soon.

I'm not sure about a rejuvenation coming, all I ever hear about is re-make...re-imagine...updated. I understand that they think an established property has an established audience, but think of all of the flops. Sure Star Trek, and Battlestar Galactica were hits, and most were not. The thinking is, save money on promotions and trying to generate interest in a new property, when old stuff has a fan base. 3D, never watched a movie with it since Shark boy and Lava Girl, and in failed for me.

I am glad for DVDs, the old stuff is so much better, like what I am watching now...the second season episodes of STAR TREK THE ORIGINAL SERIES! It don't get any better!

Does anybody have a hi res image of the bridge main display for NX-01 as much of the front wall as possible would be cool. I might want to use it in the Bootleg Enterprise CD covers. I'm in the brainstorming design stage at the moment and have done three designs that I am not happy with. I have looked everywhere, but can't find anything decent. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Guys and Gals,

Check TrekCore.com, as I recall there were some good shots of the viewscreen from the pilot episode, and those guys would doubtless have a screencap of it.

Check TrekCore.com, as I recall there were some good shots of the viewscreen from the pilot episode, and those guys would doubtless have a screencap of it.

I had a look there (it's where I got a lot of the images I used for the TNG covers) but there is nothing hi res. Thanks though :)

Star Wars - JJA version, will be like Star Trek JJA version....fast, big, loud, but no story. You get through and think, "What was that movie about?"

You forget that Kurtzman/Orci are not writing the script, Michael Arndt is.

Don't worry about the bridge view screen image all. I've tried it with a low res image and it's reject number 4

I'm not sure about a rejuvenation coming, all I ever hear about is re-make...re-imagine...updated. I understand that they think an established property has an established audience, but think of all of the flops. Sure Star Trek, and Battlestar Galactica were hits, and most were not. The thinking is, save money on promotions and trying to generate interest in a new property, when old stuff has a fan base. 3D, never watched a movie with it since Shark boy and Lava Girl, and in failed for me.

I am glad for DVDs, the old stuff is so much better, like what I am watching now...the second season episodes of STAR TREK THE ORIGINAL SERIES! It don't get any better!

I'm with you! the older original is far better then JJ crap! What happened to "The Human Experience"? that is what Star Trek is all about! not changing something millions of people grew up with into nothing but a shoot'em up with new visual effects!! if GR could see what his creation has been turned into he would be pissed.

Scott

It seems now a days that if the action don't start by the first frame on the screen, you hear snoring. Very fast action, awesome CGI, and loud music, what more do we need....duh, A STORY! Star Trek as we have known is dead, mindless eye junk food is all that is left.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/cry.gif

Where's William's time machine?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

It seems now a days that if the action don't start by the first frame on the screen, you hear snoring. Very fast action, awesome CGI, and loud music, what more do we need....duh, A STORY! Star Trek as we have known is dead, mindless eye junk food is all that is left.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/cry.gif

Where's William's time machine?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

Bull's Eye!! you hit the nail right on the head my friend! to say someone can not come up with a real STORY! for Star Trek does not belong anywhere near a film studio! I would recommend they hug a nuclear reactor for an hour and call me in the morning (insert another evil laugh here)

You know I tried to point that out to my oldest son and all I got was "the new star trek is for a younger generation" What Horse Crap!! where the hell was the story? I have the damn movie (it spends more time on the shelf then in my DVD player) and it totally destroys Star Trek canon as we know it...but what do we expect from "NON Thinking humans" anymore! just look at Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, those movies made billions (and still are) because of a compelling STORY full of friendship, loyalty, honor, glory, adventure, love (for every living thing) and most of all "Freedom" call it corny or what ever else you want, but the greatest liberty we all have is Freedom! with out it we are all slaves to someone else...and I will NEVER be a slave to anyone on this planet! nor allow anyone else to be one! just because I am retired does not mean the oath I swore to is over.

Sorry I went on a tangent!! clear and out.

Scott

Freedom of Speech...GO FOR IT! I like your way of thinking.

The Re-Invented .....I hate to say this, when referring to that movie...Star Trek, I don't own on DVD, and never will, and I did see it in the theater. I saw the DVD in 2011 at Wal-Mart for $5, I laughed and walked on. I won't even buy, download, or accept as a gift the soundtrack, it ain't Star Trek. When the next one comes out this year, I WON'T BE SEEING IT, I learned my lesson with the first one.

Now when the Lost in Space movie came out, I liked it, and it was my first DVD I ever bought in 1998. It was not like the original, and I didn't care...it was not Star Trek, you don't mess with TOS Star Trek!

The latest Star Trek film was just a way to make it possible to disregard anything that had happened in 6 complete TV-series and 10 films. It wasn't bad for an action film but... it sure wasn't Star Trek. The soul of Star Trek was lost and let's face it, there were more soul in any one of the old episodes. They just don't write them like that anymore. All ongoing TV-series seems to be made in the same mold.

The latest Star Trek film was just a way to make it possible to disregard anything that had happened in 6 complete TV-series and 10 films. It wasn't bad for an action film but... it sure wasn't Star Trek. The soul of Star Trek was lost and let's face it, there were more soul in any one of the old episodes. They just don't write them like that anymore. All ongoing TV-series seems to be made in the same mold.

Watch "The Newsroom" it's a "message" show and it got the right soul and spirit. Not everything out there is 24, Dexter, The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad (also i love those shows, they are certainly not uplifting, lol). So again:
The Newsroom :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TxEix6mdU

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It seems now a days that if the action don't start by the first frame on the screen, you hear snoring. Very fast action, awesome CGI, and loud music, what more do we need....duh, A STORY! Star Trek as we have known is dead, mindless eye junk food is all that is left.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/cry.gif

Where's William's time machine?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

Ah, nothing wrong with getting your adrenaline pumped in the very first minute, okies it wasn't that early in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country, but close enough and don't tell me Star Trek Voyager: Scorpion (introduced of Species ah-whatever) first 30 seconds got you excited :D

Just saying a story can be awesome still, that is, if your name isn't Abrams/Orci/Kotz ahm Kurtz?!? i dunno, i just know Kotz is german for vormitting :D

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You forget that Kurtzman/Orci are not writing the script, Michael Arndt is.

and he is going to write Star Wars Episode 7 also ...
phhhh, we will see. It might well be he will be to Star Trek what Joel Schumacher was to Batman and we all know that wasn't any good :(

The latest Star Trek film was just a way to make it possible to disregard anything that had happened in 6 complete TV-series and 10 films. It wasn't bad for an action film but... it sure wasn't Star Trek. The soul of Star Trek was lost and let's face it, there were more soul in any one of the old episodes. They just don't write them like that anymore. All ongoing TV-series seems to be made in the same mold.

It was worse than simply not being Star Trek. Total garbage - a bit like Star Wars 1-3 and what Star Wars Disney is going to be. How could Nimoy agree to be in it? Shocking. Why doesn't someone else write JJ Abrams out of history, and restore the correct Star Trek continuum?

William Shatner sings to George Lucas - My way - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDIBchVxSmE)

and he is going to write Star Wars Episode 7 also...

I didnt mean that he was writing Star Trek Into Darkness...

Well, in this day of (C) rap music, and constant hand held cameras and "in your face" fight scenes, where you can't tell who is hitting whom, I guess that the mainstream of moviemaking has become something cheap and deposal-able, just like the movie business has been for the past 10-15 years. Now, I can't say that it hasn't ALWAYS been like that, there was a time when something (Like the original Godzilla) came along, and Hollywood jumped to cash in on the newness of this film, to the point of inserting refilmed footage to match up with already existing footage (as with Raymond Burr in Godzilla).

I miss the days when the PTB in the studios would reign in a producer or director that was doing something stupid, like a handheld camera cutting too close to the actors, or spinning around and around the actor, 5 or 6 times, which will make the audience throw up in the theatres! Now, the execs seem to only be interested in getting that next buck, no matter what, and if a "flash in the pan" director like J.J. or the two "B" boys from DS9 and Voyager comes along, they hand over the whole studio to these kids, without any reason at all!

Just shoot me!

William

The latest Star Trek film was just a way to make it possible to disregard anything that had happened in 6 complete TV-series and 10 films. It wasn't bad for an action film but... it sure wasn't Star Trek. The soul of Star Trek was lost and let's face it, there were more soul in any one of the old episodes. They just don't write them like that anymore. All ongoing TV-series seems to be made in the same mold.

Thank you!!! I was starting to feel like the lone stranger on this. It's amazing how many people misunderstand when you say something along the lines of "It wasn't a bad movie, it was bad Trek". They can't understand that; They think that if it is a "good movie" it must be good "Trek", and that to say it is bad "Trek" is saying it was a bad movie. (head shaking)

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William Shatner sings to George Lucas - My way - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDIBchVxSmE)

Great video. Shatner has become a bit of a Leslie Nielson -- a straight guy that manages to pull off hokey comedy because he plays it like a straight guy.

Thank you!!! I was starting to feel like the lone stranger on this. It's amazing how many people misunderstand when you say something along the lines of "It wasn't a bad movie, it was bad Trek". They can't understand that; They think that if it is a "good movie" it must be good "Trek", and that to say it is bad "Trek" is saying it was a bad movie. (head shaking)

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Yes, as a modern movie goes it was OK. I enjoyed the movie. Star Trek,well in name yes, in characters...yes, sort of...well the names anyway. However Wrath of Khan it wasn't, Undiscovered Country it wasn't, Nor Generations (Don't hate me for loving the latter, but I do love it, just say "Well he likes Doctor Who as well"). Will I go and see the new Trek movie? I probably will.

Hope I've not spoken out of line.

PCM

Will I go and see the new Trek movie? I probably will.

I'll do like I did with the first JokeJokeA**hole Trek -- I'll skip it, maybe watch it on Netflix, then walk away shaking my head thinking, "Crap."

Freedom of Speech...GO FOR IT! I like your way of thinking.

The Re-Invented .....I hate to say this, when referring to that movie...Star Trek, I don't own on DVD, and never will, and I did see it in the theater. I saw the DVD in 2011 at Wal-Mart for $5, I laughed and walked on. I won't even buy, download, or accept as a gift the soundtrack, it ain't Star Trek. When the next one comes out this year, I WON'T BE SEEING IT, I learned my lesson with the first one.

Now when the Lost in Space movie came out, I liked it, and it was my first DVD I ever bought in 1998. It was not like the original, and I didn't care...it was not Star Trek, you don't mess with TOS Star Trek!

The only reason I bought it was because of my son! other then that I would not own it. I won't be seeing it either, unless my son wants me to go! (like any other loving father, I have a soft spot for my son's) but I just refuse to give JJ any complements on what he did to Star Trek or for Star Trek.

I like you, liked the Lost In Space movie too, and have it on DVD...granted it was different then the show, but it did keep to the original TV series characters and some of the plot. Personally I wish they would do another movie! I'm with you brother..."DON"T MESS WITH TREK" <---would make a good bumper sticker :)

I bleed Red,White & Blue! it was the way I was raised! I grew up listening to my uncle's story's when they served in the Marine Corps during WWII, my father and other uncle's served in the Navy, Army and Marine Corps during the Korean War and my older cousins served in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War (three joined the Marines and only two came back, one is MIA/KIA) that's where I got my love for History and just dove into just about any thing to do with the subject...Military, Political, Ancient (Generals, Emperors, Kings and President's) I have a running contest between my models and my books to see which one is going to over take the other :) Anyway, naturally I feel in love with American History (good and bad) the Founding Fathers, the Constitution and joined Law Enforcement (we used to have "To Protect And To Serve" on the side of our coursers! not any more) and no matter what call I responded to every person deserves to be treated equally under the Law, unless your a real S*IT BAG and have no respect life! then your behind belongs to my 1911A1 (old ironsides) until we were forced to go to 9mm (piece of crap..the first versions, the barrels cracked after 50 rounds where put through it) now they are back to S&W 40mm...but I digress, I know several people from the former (my be a different name today but the management is still the same) Russia and other old Warsaw Pack country's and the story's they told would make your hair stand on end! it just confirmed my belief that all of mankind should be free and there is no other country in the world today that I would live in! then the good old USA! yes we have our problems, but at lest we can fix them! and we are FREE to talk about whatever we want to and don't have to worry about being arrested for voicing our opinions on our leaders...they work for us, not the other way around.

I got a little carried away....back to our regularly scheduled program!

Scott

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Thank you!!! I was starting to feel like the lone stranger on this. It's amazing how many people misunderstand when you say something along the lines of "It wasn't a bad movie, it was bad Trek". They can't understand that; They think that if it is a "good movie" it must be good "Trek", and that to say it is bad "Trek" is saying it was a bad movie. (head shaking)

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Great video. Shatner has become a bit of a Leslie Nielson -- a straight guy that manages to pull off hokey comedy because he plays it like a straight guy.

Nah your not alone!! I call it "Bastardized Trek" and JJ and whoever at Paramount gave him the job and okay should be shoved into a airlock and shot out into space.

Scott

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Yes, as a modern movie goes it was OK. I enjoyed the movie. Star Trek,well in name yes, in characters...yes, sort of...well the names anyway. However Wrath of Khan it wasn't, Undiscovered Country it wasn't, Nor Generations (Don't hate me for loving the latter, but I do love it, just say "Well he likes Doctor Who as well"). Will I go and see the new Trek movie? I probably will.

Hope I've not spoken out of line.

PCM

You have not spoken out of line my friend....your opinion counts! we may live in different country's but George Bernard Shaw said once "England and America are two countries divided by a common language." our peoples fought and died against each other at one time, but we both fought for each others Freedom's and won! and I will support and defend your right (and anyone else's for that matter) to speak their opinion. The same can be said about anyone else living in Freedom today...America has always fought to set people free! and not for conquest! True Americans & Britons do not look for a pat on the back for what we did, we all stand together as a free people because we love freedom and Liberty and want our children to live in peace together.

Scott

You have not spoken out of line my friend....your opinion counts! we may live in different country's but George Bernard Shaw said once "England and America are two countries divided by a common language." our peoples fought and died against each other at one time, but we both fought for each others Freedom's and won! and I will support and defend your right (and anyone else's for that matter) to speak their opinion. The same can be said about anyone else living in Freedom today...America has always fought to set people free! and not for conquest! True Americans & Britons do not look for a pat on the back for what we did, we all stand together as a free people because we love freedom and Liberty and want our children to live in peace together.

Scott

Never a truer word spoken. Britains past is a little checkered. We had our Empire, and although some good was done, some very bad things were done as well. However I believe we have "Come Good". I am proud to be British in this modern age, and happy that we and America still have our strong ties (despite the Boston tea party, all that lovely tea in the sea LOL ;) )

I really want my children to grow up in a world of peace, with no irrational hate because of people colour, gender or religion. Hmmm, didn't some one write about a future like that back in the mid 60's. Anyway I'd best get off my soap box now.

Never a truer word spoken. Britains past is a little checkered. We had our Empire, and although some good was done, some very bad things were done as well. However I believe we have "Come Good". I am proud to be British in this modern age, and happy that we and America still have our strong ties (despite the Boston tea party, all that lovely tea in the sea LOL ;) )

I really want my children to grow up in a world of peace, with no irrational hate because of people colour, gender or religion. Hmmm, didn't some one write about a future like that back in the mid 60's. Anyway I'd best get off my soap box now.

LOL That little party over two hundred years ago, and with interest we owe you a few billion dollars by now ;) England and America will ALWAYS have ties that shall NEVER be broken.

Yes indeed we have a dream "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Note the word "Character" a word not seldom used today or even practice...sad! if used today more then half our elected official's would not be in office. I would love to have my children live in a world of peace, where I never have to worry that they will have to go to war.

I'll get off mine as while!! and Stand with the Union Jack and the Stars and Stripes and any other people that wish to live in Peace and Freedom...lets not forget "To Boldly Go Where No Person has Gone Before" (que Star Trek Theme! Hit it Soundtrekker!!)

Scott

Your opinion please Guys and Gals. Am I on the right track here. First cover I've been reasonably happy with for the Enterprise stuff. Let me know what you think before I spend another 10 hours fiddling with it.



I know bits need to be centralised, re-jigged slightly and better cut out. Everything has had to be completely made from scratch so that the quality will hold up. I'll give it until tomorrow 20:00hrs GMT so I can see every bodies comments.

Thanking you in advance for your input

PCM

Well, in this day of (C) rap music, and constant hand held cameras and "in your face" fight scenes, where you can't tell who is hitting whom, I guess that the mainstream of moviemaking has become something cheap and deposal-able, just like the movie business has been for the past 10-15 years. Now, I can't say that it hasn't ALWAYS been like that, there was a time when something (Like the original Godzilla) came along, and Hollywood jumped to cash in on the newness of this film, to the point of inserting refilmed footage to match up with already existing footage (as with Raymond Burr in Godzilla).

I miss the days when the PTB in the studios would reign in a producer or director that was doing something stupid, like a handheld camera cutting too close to the actors, or spinning around and around the actor, 5 or 6 times, which will make the audience throw up in the theatres! Now, the execs seem to only be interested in getting that next buck, no matter what, and if a "flash in the pan" director like J.J. or the two "B" boys from DS9 and Voyager comes along, they hand over the whole studio to these kids, without any reason at all!

Just shoot me!

William

That's another thing! It looks like the camera men are drunk or have the withdrawal shakes. Hold the damned thing steady or use a tripod ffs. And the editing looks like it has been done by guys on speed or something. The cuts are so small it's unbelievable, and this seems to be prevalent in films of late. It appears to be a mechanism to compensate for the lack of 'content' in the film.

It appears to be a mechanism to compensate for the lack of 'content' in the film.

Content? What are you, some sorta smart ass? We can't clutter up our movie with content. If we do that, the next thing you know people will be asking for intelligent content, then a story, then an intelligent story, and then who knows what else. We're making a movie here -- mindless entertainment -- not trying to communicate with the audience. Geez. Grow up, buddy....

:)

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Your opinion please Guys and Gals.

Just my 2-cents (now worth 1/4 of a cent on the international currency market): Seems a bit cluttered and busy to me. Take it or ignore it for what it's worth -- or isn't.

Just my 2-cents (now worth 1/4 of a cent on the international currency market): Seems a bit cluttered and busy to me. Take it or ignore it for what it's worth -- or isn't.

I take on board all criticism good or bad. It's the only way to improve. Thank you for your opinion.

It might well be he will be to Star Trek what Joel Schumacher was to Batman and we all know that wasn't any good :(

I just watched all four Batman movies, and the two Joel Schumacher movieshttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/throwup.gif, but he did say the studio wanted more KID friendly AKA TOYS!

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Just shoot me!

William

If you want me to, but, I prefer not to.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

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Your opinion please Guys and Gals. Am I on the right track here. First cover I've been reasonably happy with for the Enterprise stuff. Let me know what you think before I spend another 10 hours fiddling with it.



I know bits need to be centralised, re-jigged slightly and better cut out. Everything has had to be completely made from scratch so that the quality will hold up. I'll give it until tomorrow 20:00hrs GMT so I can see every bodies comments.

Thanking you in advance for your input

PCM

I...really don't care for that. Too busy, I think. However...For my mediaplayer files, I have been using these:

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Just a thought.

Your opinion please Guys and Gals. Am I on the right track here. First cover I've been reasonably happy with for the Enterprise stuff. Let me know what you think before I spend another 10 hours fiddling with it.


I know bits need to be centralised, re-jigged slightly and better cut out. Everything has had to be completely made from scratch so that the quality will hold up. I'll give it until tomorrow 20:00hrs GMT so I can see every bodies comments.

Thanking you in advance for your input

PCM

I would say that the Enterprise screen layout is a bit much to have on the front cover, perhaps keep the upper part and do "fade-ins" to episode scenes at the bottom...

Umm...I LIKE IT, Pearlcorderman! It is too much, but, that makes it unique and fun looking.

Amanda, what you like is cool looking, except the TOS Enterprise, it is not TOS.

OK, Does anyone have really HiRes images of the actors single and groups from Enterprise, 3000 x 2200 and bigger. I need those sizes as I work in 600 dpi initially. If you have I would be very grateful. As it is now 1 O'Clock in the morning here, I think I'd best go to bed.

PCM

Umm...I LIKE IT, Pearlcorderman! It is too much, but, that makes it unique and fun looking.

Amanda, what you like is cool looking, except the TOS Enterprise, it is not TOS.

I'll go alone with you! I LIKE IT! it differently caught my eye :) Yeah the real TOS Enterprise would have looked better! but since there are no really good photos of the Big E it is what it is.

Scott

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Well, in this day of (C) rap music, and constant hand held cameras and "in your face" fight scenes, where you can't tell who is hitting whom, I guess that the mainstream of moviemaking has become something cheap and deposal-able, just like the movie business has been for the past 10-15 years. Now, I can't say that it hasn't ALWAYS been like that, there was a time when something (Like the original Godzilla) came along, and Hollywood jumped to cash in on the newness of this film, to the point of inserting refilmed footage to match up with already existing footage (as with Raymond Burr in Godzilla).

I miss the days when the PTB in the studios would reign in a producer or director that was doing something stupid, like a handheld camera cutting too close to the actors, or spinning around and around the actor, 5 or 6 times, which will make the audience throw up in the theatres! Now, the execs seem to only be interested in getting that next buck, no matter what, and if a "flash in the pan" director like J.J. or the two "B" boys from DS9 and Voyager comes along, they hand over the whole studio to these kids, without any reason at all!

Just shoot me!

William

Those where the days! and the studio's could reign in an actor as well...long gone and never to return. If an actor or actress started acting up on the set or at home...that was the end of their career. Unfortunately you are correct!!...the next buck. As long as the mindless masses keep dropping money into their movies they will keep putting out crap! thank God for DVD and VHS!! I can watch real actor's act in films with a story.

Scott

I was trying to find it, but did Cyrano Jones, Star Trek 2009 bar music ever come out?

Your opinion please Guys and Gals. Am I on the right track here. First cover I've been reasonably happy with for the Enterprise stuff. Let me know what you think before I spend another 10 hours fiddling with it.



I know bits need to be centralised, re-jigged slightly and better cut out. Everything has had to be completely made from scratch so that the quality will hold up. I'll give it until tomorrow 20:00hrs GMT so I can see every bodies comments.

Thanking you in advance for your input

PCM

I like the top part of the cover, but not to keen on the image of with the NX-O1 in it as she does look a tad lost

I do like the image Amanda posted but that would have to change season, especially season 1 & 4 as Archer & Tpol had chad changed in appearance

Maybe an action shot from the epsiode would work, but whatever you come up with, I think i'm going to be pretty pleased

OK, Does anyone have really HiRes images of the actors single and groups from Enterprise, 3000 x 2200 and bigger. I need those sizes as I work in 600 dpi initially. If you have I would be very grateful. As it is now 1 O'Clock in the morning here, I think I'd best go to bed.

PCM

These are the largest cast photos I could find for you.

I just watched all four Batman movies, and the two Joel Schumacher movieshttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/throwup.gif, but he did say the studio wanted more KID friendly AKA TOYS![COLOR="Silver"]

It's strange but i am not aware of any merchandising that was done based on Star Trek 2009, i mean merchandising as big as the initial Star Wars had. Actually i haven't seen this kinda stuff in either franchise in a looooooong while. Am i right? Or has the internet turned me into a bad consumer? I don't have a TV, i watch only what i choose, the magazines i read are on my kindle, the music i listen to, i store on my hard drive. The only things i really go out shopping for are food, furniture, hygiene, health and perhaps the occasional mag that comes with a movie DVD for cheap. All other things i simply get online and it almost never happens to me that i wanna buy something i didn't go looking for in the first place. When i do, when i stumbled upon something i didn't know about and wanna have it's rather exciting because it's the exception. I think my computer has turned me into a real bad consumer, lol. But perhaps it's just this: I am suffering from C A D - Commercials-Avoiding-Disorder.

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Content? What are you, some sorta smart ass? We can't clutter up our movie with content. If we do that, the next thing you know people will be asking for intelligent content, then a story, then an intelligent story, and then who knows what else. We're making a movie here -- mindless entertainment -- not trying to communicate with the audience. Geez. Grow up, buddy....

To me Star Trek II is the best example that pop culture can be mindful, deep and a fucking rollercoaster or simply nail biting movie experience at the same time :)

It's strange but i am not aware of any merchandising that was done based on Star Trek 2009...

There was but not on the level of Star Wars or previous Trek incarnations. I'm not sure where you live but here in the US there are a chain of stores called Hastings. They sell books/music/movies primarily but the also sell a large portion of fanboy/girl collectibles. I remember seeing just recently a handful of Star Trek 2009 merch so I would guess there was even a bit more when the movie was in theaters.

These are the largest cast photos I could find for you.





Zoran to the Rescue!!! Man your like Zorro, you came out of no where and cut right to it!! well done Sir! :)

Scott

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It's strange but i am not aware of any merchandising that was done based on Star Trek 2009, i mean merchandising as big as the initial Star Wars had. Actually i haven't seen this kinda stuff in either franchise in a looooooong while. Am i right? Or has the internet turned me into a bad consumer? I don't have a TV, i watch only what i choose, the magazines i read are on my kindle, the music i listen to, i store on my hard drive. The only things i really go out shopping for are food, furniture, hygiene, health and perhaps the occasional mag that comes with a movie DVD for cheap. All other things i simply get online and it almost never happens to me that i wanna buy something i didn't go looking for in the first place. When i do, when i stumbled upon something i didn't know about and wanna have it's rather exciting because it's the exception. I think my computer has turned me into a real bad consumer, lol. But perhaps it's just this: I am suffering from C A D - Commercials-Avoiding-Disorder.

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To me Star Trek II is the best example that pop culture can be mindful, deep and a fucking rollercoaster or simply nail biting movie experience at the same time :)

This was done with a Google search and came up for "CBS Consumer Products Rolls Out New 'Star Trek' Movie Merchandise"

"For gifts
-- Gift items including business card holders, salt and pepper sets, mugs, clocks, magnets and more from Vandor.
-- Pop-culture lineup of high quality bobbleheads and vinyl figurines from Funko.

For apparel
-- Adult sleepwear and loungewear from Briefly Stated.
-- Kids footwear, bags and accessories from E.S. Originals.
-- Sleepwear for children from AME.

For home d�cor
-- Peel-and-stick wall art and d�cor, including life-size wall murals from York/Roommates.
-- Lighting, wall art and other creative home d�cor elements from Rabbit Tanaka.
-- Posters from Trends International.

For fragrance
-- A trio of fragrances ("Tiberius," "Pon Farr" and "Red Shirt") celebrating Star Trek from GenkiWear, LLC.

For accessories
-- Silver plated cufflinks from Cufflinks.com
-- Direct-to-consumer items such as leather jackets, laptop bags, patches, pins and flags from Bradford Exchange.

For jewelry
-- Jewelry such as men's and women's rings from MBI/Danbury Mint

For more information on a wide array of Star Trek products, log on to store.startrek.com!"

Don't feel bad I did not buy any of the junk! not even JJ's Boobyprise model. I have C A D as well so your not alone!

Oh I agree 100 percent ST II is right on the edge of your seat movie!! and I have watched it over a hundred times and counting.

Scott

Hey pearl. Just a thought. The Next Gen stuff looks good with the colorful LCars graphics. With Enterprise, there is far less color. It is all brushed steel etc. Blue and white lights, blue uniforms, with very small color accents, the three colors red, blue and cold. Perhaps steel or silver covers with command color accents or borders.

I remember all of the toys from Star Trek 2009 at K-Mart. A model kit of the JJ's Boobyprise was cancel back then, but Revell is coming out with one this year... whoopee....if anyone wants one...Amanda? Please don't http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/smack-1.gif, you are a model builder.

I would not touch the "reimagined" Enterprise with a 10 foot pole and radiation gloves. I do not even keep images or tech specs about it.

**didn't happen, didn't happen**

**what has been seen cannot be unseen** :sad:

Yeah the real TOS Enterprise would have looked better! but since there are no really good photos of the Big E it is what it is.

As I recall over at the Phase II website (not that I would ever encourage anyone to borrow anything without asking) they have some good quality images of their CGI E. They are actually quite good. And I know several of the other fan series have some good CGI E's as well. You might want to check them out if you ever thing of redoing your images.

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Actually, Pearlcorderman, I really like your Enterprise cover! The only thing that I don't like is the picture in the middle of the two ships, but that's the only thing. I think that, like the LCARS for the next gen covers, having all the displays as you have, makes it look new and original, very nice (Hey, I grabbed it for my CD, hehehehehe:)) I really don't like that all my Enterprise bootleg CDs all have the same cover, with different text, just the crew standing there with the name of the episode, etc. VERY boring.

I also like some of the covers as Amanda has them, but not really the TOS one, for some reason, it looks kind of "wonky", can't really put my finger on it.

William

anyone willing to re-up a few voyager scores?

Actually, Pearlcorderman, I really like your Enterprise cover! The only thing that I don't like is the picture in the middle of the two ships, but that's the only thing. I think that, like the LCARS for the next gen covers, having all the displays as you have, makes it look new and original, very nice (Hey, I grabbed it for my CD, hehehehehe:)) I really don't like that all my Enterprise bootleg CDs all have the same cover, with different text, just the crew standing there with the name of the episode, etc. VERY boring.

I also like some of the covers as Amanda has them, but not really the TOS one, for some reason, it looks kind of "wonky", can't really put my finger on it.

William

Thank you William. Don't worry, I shall do different images on different covers.

OK, so mixed reviews on the cover, maybe I'll do a double sided cover. so people can choose what they want.

Thank you everyone for your opinions, they have all been noted for consideration in the next design. The planet and enterprise logo will be staying and has been on my last 3 designs.

Thanks again :D

Have you wondered why no one has told the tale of the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif great Tribble hunt?

That's an idea! Mix different http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif music together and call it, Music to Eradicate the Tribbles By.

Am I really posting here or am I still dreaming?

Am I really posting here or am I still dreaming?

[in a radio announcer voice] "Thank You For Your Question Admiral AZSneed"... "And The Answer Is Your Dreaming!" "now lets go to our next caller...your on the Official Star Trek Thread, and whats your question?"

This Message is brought to you by the Ferengi Institute Of "Oo-mox For Fun And Profit" :)

Scott

hey Scotty do you have the booklet to Star Trek Generations? the one released last year? if so could you upload it please?

hey Scotty do you have the booklet to Star Trek Generations? the one released last year? if so could you upload it please?

What I have is the Next Generation Volume 4 booklet scan's, but the movie Generations No sorry.

Scott

@ Pearl (or anyone really), latest images dug up:

akira-prise

Amanda, nice shots there, I can use the NX-01 shots for my future build of the models. I didn't watch the series when it first came on. I do have the DVD sets. Not a bad Sci-Fi series, but not Star Trek, to me.

Very nice shots Amanda!!

Scott

Amanda, nice shots there, I can use the NX-01 shots for my future build of the models. I didn't watch the series when it first came on. I do have the DVD sets. Not a bad Sci-Fi series, but not Star Trek, to me.

It was so popular it got cancelled. I shouldn't have said that, knowing what happened to TOS!

Addendum re. Enterprise pics:

Those pics with Archer, T'Pol and the other guy - are they real? They're holding a Sony camcorder with a fat NP-FM70 battery, a crappy tv remote and an old phone with its retro little aerial. And if they are real, are they for real?

Amazing! I never noticed that T'pol didn't have pointed eyebrows in the first season! Not until the later seasons (I don't know exactly when) did they trim her outside edge and make them VULCAN!!!
that is really funny, when you think about it, since they did Nimoy the same way, except in his case, they had airbrushed out the points on the early promo picture! :)

William

Amazing! I never noticed that T'pol didn't have pointed eyebrows in the first season! Not until the later seasons (I don't know exactly when) did they trim her outside edge and make them VULCAN!!!
that is really funny, when you think about it, since they did Nimoy the same way, except in his case, they had airbrushed out the points on the early promo picture! :)

William

Just one of the reasons I reject ST:E as cannon.

The publicity shots ARE real. They have several. I have many more GOOD references for the NX-01 build. I completely ignored the series when it was on, but I am now watching it via Netflix, and am enjoying it more than any other Trek except DS9. I am older (and on meds) so I am more able to overlook the discrepancies and go with it. But I am just fascinated with the score. I had never listened to the promos, but I am now. I am LOVING silent enemy.

I do not have Enterprise soundtrack CD, on my to do list. Only Voyager I don't have, or have seen the complete series. I love ALL Star Trek music, except the theme song from Enterprise....WHY! WHY! A SONG?

I do not have Enterprise soundtrack CD, on my to do list. Only Voyager I don't have, or have seen the complete series. I love ALL Star Trek music, except the theme song from Enterprise....WHY! WHY! A SONG?

NOW LOOK YOU....

I love the opening, I love the song, especially in its full form. I...love...it. It is the only opening I do not skip through when watching, even in multiple showings. No, not to point fingers, or insults, but as a fan base our cries about the song, the eyebrows, the going against canon. Some may feel justified or just as happy with it gone. But i would have loved to see a full 7 seasons. and since it was cancelled, we have had NO NEW TREK SERIES ON TV. For what, 8 years? And when they did give us a new Trek it was a "reimagined" Trek. It gave them an excuse to say FUCK YOU to loyal fans of canon, and supply a "logical" excuse for doing so at the same time. NOW, there IS no canon, and they can do whatever the bloody hell they want. Still with the no new Trek on tv either.

I am also an old trek fan, and I love the ENTERPRISE theme song. I didn't really like the idea of any ST theme not being composed by Jerry Goldsmith, since he had died before that was on the air, I think, so it started to grow on me, week after week, watching the show. I really hated the first season, like next gen and DS9 and Voyager, but just like the rest, it grew on me as well, and now I love them all, even the last movie. If it has been filmed, it is cannon! plain and simple.

@ Pearl (or anyone really), latest images dug up:













Thanks Amanda. Some of those will be very useful. :D

...am enjoying it more than any other Trek except DS9. I am older (and on meds)....

Well, that explains why you can enjoy it...the meds, not the age thing... :)

In case anybody hasn't heard yet:

CONFIRMED: J.J. Abrams to direct next ‘Star Wars’ for Disney

(Source: trekmovie.com)

Not that I care much... what I'm looking forward, anyway, is the re-surrection of trek on tv, after the third nu-trek installment, with new actors, producers and writers, who know their trek!

Hopefully he IS a Star Wars fan and doesn't mess it up like Trek.

Is a new Trek series being planned?


Well, in this day of (C) rap music, and constant hand held cameras and "in your face" fight scenes, where you can't tell who is hitting whom, I guess that the mainstream of moviemaking has become something cheap and deposal-able, just like the movie business has been for the past 10-15 years. Now, I can't say that it hasn't ALWAYS been like that, there was a time when something (Like the original Godzilla) came along, and Hollywood jumped to cash in on the newness of this film, to the point of inserting refilmed footage to match up with already existing footage (as with Raymond Burr in Godzilla).

I miss the days when the PTB in the studios would reign in a producer or director that was doing something stupid, like a handheld camera cutting too close to the actors, or spinning around and around the actor, 5 or 6 times, which will make the audience throw up in the theatres! Now, the execs seem to only be interested in getting that next buck, no matter what, and if a "flash in the pan" director like J.J. or the two "B" boys from DS9 and Voyager comes along, they hand over the whole studio to these kids, without any reason at all!

Just shoot me!

William

Have you heard that they even botch picture stabilizers in the cameras to make the picture even shakier? Sheer madness!

Oh, then there are those God damn color filters. Blue and piss. Just look at new Die Hard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZlGkBJj4Ms
I feel like I'm color blind!

Amazing! I never noticed that T'pol didn't have pointed eyebrows in the first season! Not until the later seasons (I don't know exactly when) did they trim her outside edge and make them VULCAN!!!
that is really funny, when you think about it, since they did Nimoy the same way, except in his case, they had airbrushed out the points on the early promo picture! :)

William

She got her regulation Vulcan eyebrows and new lighter hair in the 3rd season. And she looked fantastic, so much better.


Just one of the reasons I reject ST:E as cannon.

Well, Kirstie Alley didn't alter her eyebrows when she played Saavik and everyone loved her...

Well, Kirstie Alley didn't alter her eyebrows when she played Saavik and everyone loved her...

In The Elephant Man, John Hurt didn't need any alterations to his face. Sorry John, I didn't mean it!

Well, Kirstie Alley didn't alter her eyebrows when she played Saavik and everyone loved her...

Maybe that's why they got Robin Curtis to replace her? :P

Kirstie Alley was replace, because she kept on saying CHEERS all of the time.

For all of you Deep Space Nine fans!

Pre-Release info on Star Trek Deep Space Nine 4CD Soundtrack Collection - Artwork + Teaser News, to be released February 12th.

here is the link for further info TrekCore.com :: Star Trek Deep Space Nine Soundtrack Collection - Pre-Release Information & Cover Art (http://www.trekcore.com/merchandise/stds9_soundtrackpre.html)

Scott

For all of you Deep Space Nine fans!

Pre-Release info on Star Trek Deep Space Nine 4CD Soundtrack Collection - Artwork + Teaser News, to be released February 12th.

here is the link for further info TrekCore.com :: Star Trek Deep Space Nine Soundtrack Collection - Pre-Release Information & Cover Art (http://www.trekcore.com/merchandise/stds9_soundtrackpre.html)

Scott





Mmm Star Trek Deep Space Nine Soundtrack Collection

NOW LOOK YOU....

I love the opening, I love the song, especially in its full form. I...love...it. It is the only opening I do not skip through when watching, even in multiple showings. No, not to point fingers, or insults, but as a fan base our cries about the song, the eyebrows, the going against canon. Some may feel justified or just as happy with it gone. But i would have loved to see a full 7 seasons. and since it was cancelled, we have had NO NEW TREK SERIES ON TV. For what, 8 years? And when they did give us a new Trek it was a "reimagined" Trek. It gave them an excuse to say FUCK YOU to loyal fans of canon, and supply a "logical" excuse for doing so at the same time. NOW, there IS no canon, and they can do whatever the bloody hell they want. Still with the no new Trek on tv either.

It is one reason it never felt like Star Trek to me, I like instrumental themes. I like the series(except the 3rd season) and do miss the characters. Well if they had someone who respected Star Trek to do the series, then it might had lasted 8 seasons. Star Trek that we love is dead, and the only way to get somewhat close are fan films. And, as long as Star Trek fans go see the re-whatever they call it movies, then they will say we accept the trash and not do better. As for a new series, it don't matter to me, since I won't be able to see it. No way to watch anything but DVD, VHS, Beta, and VCD.

And Amanda,http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif , I LOVE GETTING ATTENTION!

It is one reason it never felt like Star Trek to me, I like instrumental themes. I like the series(except the 3rd season) and do miss the characters. Well if they had someone who respected Star Trek to do the series, then it might had lasted 8 seasons. Star Trek that we love is dead, and the only way to get somewhat close are fan films. And, as long as Star Trek fans go see the re-whatever they call it movies, then they will say we accept the trash and not do better. As for a new series, it don't matter to me, since I won't be able to see it. No way to watch anything but DVD, VHS, Beta, and VCD.

And Amanda,http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif , I LOVE GETTING ATTENTION!

The way JJ has turned Star Trek into one light flare after another and all the other crappy changes, I would hate to see what a new Trek TV show would look like and it scares the hell out of me! I could not spend a hour every week watching Stat Trek according to JJ!! every person that has epilepsy goes into an epileptic seizure once a week! gezzz!!

Could anyone see a new Trek series say after Generations film's some time in the late 24th Century and according Trek cannon and explain the differences between that and JJ Boobyprise! Paramount really screwed the pooch!!! it's better to just watch all the TRUE Trek movies Trek series on VHS, DVD, Netflix then suffer another JJ based s*it!!

Scott

The name Enterprise will live on forever, they are even going to have another Aircraft Carrier with the name, so a new series like you said Scott SHOULD be done. When STNG came out in 87, I was thrilled, because it was about a new crew, but on the Enterprise. There is only one Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Uhura, Sulu and Chekov, let them stay in history, let a new crew to go boldly where no one has gone before, not time travel, alternative universe crap!

apparently it was a stupid fucking question that i should have kept to myself, instead of spreading arounfd like a fucking poison. So, fucking edited for the cunts I offended. I wioll be sure not to bother next time.

OK, these covers are losing me the will to live, this is my 9th version of the cover. Trying to take comments into account, and making the front less busy, but making each cover potentially different with different images for each cover (If I can find high enough quality images for each episode) as I 100% agree with William that each cover should be sufficiently different other than the title and possibly the colour of the background. Therefore, taking this all into account I hope this design is more what people want.



OR



Very similar, just a slight tweak to the rear (ooh err Mrs, sorry, English Carry On humor)

PCM

I like how you tweaked the rear on the second one, I say it's a wrap!

The name Enterprise will live on forever, they are even going to have another Aircraft Carrier with the name, so a new series like you said Scott SHOULD be done. When STNG came out in 87, I was thrilled, because it was about a new crew, but on the Enterprise. There is only one Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Uhura, Sulu and Chekov, let them stay in history, let a new crew to go boldly where no one has gone before, not time travel, alternative universe crap!

Oh thank God!! I could never image a Ford Class Super-Carrier being named "Obama or Clinton" (put their name's on garage scow's)

That might work with a whole new crew, sometime in the late 24th Century! The Human Adventure Continues! :)

The sad fact is Paramount would not do it again, they make a lot more money off of a movie then a TV show, in the short run. TV shows take several years before they start to turn a profit and Sci-Fi shows are inherently costly to produce. Most major studios today will not do anymore Sci-Fi shows! one of the reasons why the Sci-Fi channel has no Sci-Fi shows on the air, what we are going to see from now on is Sci-Fi stuck on the ground, nothing taking place out in space! it's far cheaper. Personally Paramount no longer has the vision anymore, all the ones that brought us the Star Trek shows are now gone! retired, put out off the lot and a new younger generation has taken over and all they want is the fast buck! that my friend is the times in which we live...unfortunately!!

Scott

---------- Post added at 10:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

CUT AND PRINT IT!!

You have done another masterpiece as far as I am concerned! :) take a break Pearl you deserve it.

both rears look fine! (ooops old man humor hehehehe)

Scott

OK, these covers are losing me the will to live, this is my 9th version of the cover. Trying to take comments into account, and making the front less busy, but making each cover potentially different with different images for each cover (If I can find high enough quality images for each episode) as I 100% agree with William that each cover should be sufficiently different other than the title and possibly the colour of the background. Therefore, taking this all into account I hope this design is more what people want.



OR



Very similar, just a slight tweak to the rear (ooh err Mrs, sorry, English Carry On humor)

PCM

sure like the second one of this edit

Now i wuld say it's on the the track listin for the back of the case

Oh thank God!! I could never image a Ford Class Super-Carrier being named "Obama or Clinton" (put their name's on garage scow's)

CUT AND PRINT IT!!

You have done another masterpiece as far as I am concerned! :) take a break Pearl you deserve it.

both rears look fine! (ooops old man humor hehehehe)

Scott

Thank you Scotty. This one has definitely proved a challenge. I was up all night at it (Carry On humor again).

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I like how you tweaked the rear on the second one, I say it's a wrap!

I prefer the 2nd as well. Thank you very much.

hey Scotty do you have the booklet to Star Trek Generations? the one released last year? if so could you upload it please?

Since Scotty only has his engines on his mind (and a good bottle of Scotch), I'll step in for him:

Star Trek: Generations - Expanded (Dennis McCarthy) (1994/2012) (MP3~320kbps) - Page 3 (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/star-trek-generations-expanded-dennis-mccarthy-1994-a-122795-post2266583/#post2266583)

sure like the second one of this edit

Now i wuld say it's on the the track listin for the back of the case

Thank you, my preferred one as well,Yep, I sure will be placing the track listings will be on the back cover. Will do the back cover tonight.

Well, Kirstie Alley didn't alter her eyebrows when she played Saavik and everyone loved her...

I haven't gotten to her eyebrows yet. I'm still working my way up but I'll let you know what I think when I get there...

I haven't gotten to her eyebrows yet. I'm still working my way up but I'll let you know what I think when I get there...
Take your time...

The name Enterprise will live on forever, they are even going to have another Aircraft Carrier with the name, so a new series like you said Scott SHOULD be done. When STNG came out in 87, I was thrilled, because it was about a new crew, but on the Enterprise. There is only one Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Uhura, Sulu and Chekov, let them stay in history, let a new crew to go boldly where no one has gone before, not time travel, alternative universe crap!

"And kiptin, it is di Enterprise!"

Since Scotty only has his engines on his mind (and a good bottle of Scotch), I'll step in for him:

Star Trek: Generations - Expanded (Dennis McCarthy) (1994/2012) (MP3~320kbps) - Page 3 (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/star-trek-generations-expanded-dennis-mccarthy-1994-a-122795-post2266583/#post2266583)

Thank You my friend!

Aye! balancing me engines is easy! drinking a good bottle of 12 year old Scotch is hard! brings a tear to me eye to think of all the laddies that gave their all for this little beauty!! ;) "Heres to you me lad's!"

Scott

I like the first Enterprise cover, with the top bar that does NOT go all the way to the back. Just my two cents.

William

I like the first Enterprise cover, with the top bar that does NOT go all the way to the back. Just my two cents.

William

Thanks William. I've done some tweaking. Rejigged the front picture, and a few other bits. With regards to the cover, maybe I will include two covers.

Were these bootlegs courtesy of you William?

PCM

->Pearlcorderman

1) Technical point. If you're compiling an old-fashioned audio CD, the "Compact Disc Digital Data" logo is inappropriate. This would be fine for mp3s. Otherwise you may want to look around for a CD-Audio logo.

2) The grey steel effect looks drab. It reminds me (of the series actually - only joking) of re-issues of previously released material - a bit like the Playstation Platinum range - personally I hate those covers. It's far too production-line-ish. The other thing about the design is that it looks like a couple of steel buckets. Sorry.

3) Captured pictures from the show. Tricky this one. You might try processing them into a cartoon-esque style with some Adobe plugin or what-not. But it may look worse. But trial and error is the way to go.

I haven't gotten to her eyebrows yet. I'm still working my way up but I'll let you know what I think when I get there...

You are suffering (or rather are enjoying) "Riker Syndrome". It was first established in the episode "Up The Long Ladder" and just now i realize this wasn't meant synonymously for evolution! The dialogue between him and the woman is about Riker having to work himself upward her body, from toe to head. "Up the Long Ladder", yeah, sure, you can't fool me Star Trek! Hm, makes you think. What other conotations were hidden in TNG episode titles?

->Pearlcorderman

1) Technical point. If you're compiling an old-fashioned audio CD, the "Compact Disc Digital Data" logo is inappropriate. This would be fine for mp3s. Otherwise you may want to look around for a CD-Audio logo.

2) The grey steel effect looks drab. It reminds me (of the series actually - only joking) of re-issues of previously released material - a bit like the Playstation Platinum range - personally I hate those covers. It's far too production-line-ish. The other thing about the design is that it looks like a couple of steel buckets. Sorry.

3) Captured pictures from the show. Tricky this one. You might try processing them into a cartoon-esque style with some Adobe plugin or what-not. But it may look worse. But trial and error is the way to go.

I suggested the steel look. It is appropriate to the show as it is part of it's signature look. Anything else would not fit right. Thuogh for the pics,I almost might suggest just pics of the ship itself. Not sure.

Tracklisting and other information for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (La La Land Records) will be announced tomorrow.


Star Trek.com and La La Land Records will be making an official announcement sometime tomorrow in regards to track listing, pricing and ordering information.

MV

You'll note the absence of "Volume 1" on the cover. Remember what I said?

Tracklisting and other information for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" (La La Land Records) will be announced tomorrow.


Not full but small details about the discs ... and yay! We will be getting Our Man Bashir !!!! yeah!
PREVIEW: La-La Land’s 4-Disc ‘Deep Space Nine’ Soundtrack Collection | Star Trek News | TrekNews.net (http://www.treknews.net/2013/02/03/ds9-soundtrack-collection-preview/)

->Pearlcorderman

1) Technical point. If you're compiling an old-fashioned audio CD, the "Compact Disc Digital Data" logo is inappropriate. This would be fine for mp3s. Otherwise you may want to look around for a CD-Audio logo.

2) The grey steel effect looks drab. It reminds me (of the series actually - only joking) of re-issues of previously released material - a bit like the Playstation Platinum range - personally I hate those covers. It's far too production-line-ish. The other thing about the design is that it looks like a couple of steel buckets. Sorry.

3) Captured pictures from the show. Tricky this one. You might try processing them into a cartoon-esque style with some Adobe plugin or what-not. But it may look worse. But trial and error is the way to go.

Good technical point, I thought I'd used to correct one. On the font I use one is accessed by using the "K" key the other by using the "L".

The steel finish was suggested by Amanda and has also been the most popular design, and . Therefore, thank you for your input (as I appreciate all comments, good or bad), however, the series will probably stay looking like this. Enterprise is very much utility looking, so I believe this quite suits it.

Cover image is tricky. I tried to recreate a scene using the NX-01 and the prison vessel, but it was universally hated. I want to do something that is unique to each episode, as I am not keen on the generic picture on the front. I have often used the artistic effects in Photoshop for certain covers, but I don't think it will quite work on these covers (however I have used them on other CD covers I've done).

Once again, thank you for your comments :)

PCM

OK, not going to get the back finished tonight. just looked at the clock and it is two O'Clock in the morning. Think I'd best go to bed now. ;)

PCM

OK, not going to get the back finished tonight. just looked at the clock and it is two O'Clock in the morning. Think I'd best go to bed now. ;)

PCM

Get some sleep my friend you deserve it! remember your not on a clock, so take your time.

Scott

OK, not going to get the back finished tonight. just looked at the clock and it is two O'Clock in the morning. Think I'd best go to bed now. ;)

PCM

What? Sleep! Oh, Belgium man, Belgium!

There, I removed all posts I had about the Enterprise promos. I am so very sorry I posted it also in the TOS thread. Please oh God forgive my fucking stupidity in thinking I could talk about MY interests instead of tpol's ass. I have blocked the cunts I offended. So thanks for that. I will remember when you or anyone else here wants something.

Fuckers.

Amanda... deep breaths....

What's all this about Tpol's arse ?.

There, I removed all posts I had about the Enterprise promos. I am so very sorry I posted it also in the TOS thread. Please oh God forgive my fucking stupidity in thinking I could talk about MY interests instead of tpol's ass. I have blocked the cunts I offended. So thanks for that. I will remember when you or anyone else here wants something.

Fuckers.

Feeling better now, Amanda? :)

Now on to the REALLY important things. What again was your ENTERPRISE promo question?

Amanda... deep breaths....

What's all this about Tpol's arse ?.


I have written you several times via pm with no response, and you wanna chat here about this? Soundtrekker, don't bother. I do not in fact feel better.

I have written you several times via pm with no response, and you wanna chat here about this?

I can only find 1 PM from you (about Ghosts of the Abyss) since June 2012...

Why, I DO bother, my dear Amanda (offering you a cup of Tranya)... Here, sweetheart, how can we cheer you up? (looking up to the Lady, flabbergusted...)

Well to me your revised track list was very helpful, Amanda, so thanks!

There, I removed all posts I had about the Enterprise promos. I am so very sorry I posted it also in the TOS thread. Please oh God forgive my fucking stupidity in thinking I could talk about MY interests instead of tpol's ass. I have blocked the cunts I offended. So thanks for that. I will remember when you or anyone else here wants something.

Fuckers.

I'm not sure I know what's happened here. I for one have been very grateful for your input on my Enterprise CD cover design (as you can see with the brushed aluminium effect) and the photo's you have supplied. Having not watched enterprise apart from the first two episodes a couple of years ago, this input was very useful and I, for one, would appreciate any further help you'd like to offer/give.

I can't think that I have EDIT(unless, having looked back at my previous posts, it was my reference to the Carry On (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_(film_series)) films humour, which most certainly had nothing to do with any of the characters from Enterprise, as I do not know who any of them are apart from the chap from Quantum Leap)EDIT, however, If it was this or I have done anything else to offend you, please PM me so we can work it out, as I hate any bad feelings.

PCM

Oh thank God!! I could never image a Ford Class Super-Carrier being named "Obama or Clinton" (put their name's on garage scow's)

What have you got against garbage scows?

I'm not sure I know what's happened here.

... however, If ... I have done anything else to offend you, please PM me so we can work it out, as I hate any bad feelings.

PCM

I'm not sure what exactly the reason was for Amanda's reaction (it may or may not have to do with my remark about her Star Trek: Enterprise question in the Star Trek TOS music thread, where I suggested to put all trek questions other than TOS trek into the "Official Star Trek" thread here), but I can assure you, it wasn't you!

Those persons deserving of an explanation (and my time and thoughts, apparently) have been sent pm's.

Thanks William. I've done some tweaking. Rejigged the front picture, and a few other bits. With regards to the cover, maybe I will include two covers.

Were these bootlegs courtesy of you William?

PCM



I believe that they were, for the most part. I have no idea where I get stuff, but I'm just happy to share it with all you good people here. If someone says that I ripped off a score from him, then you can safely say that's a bunch of crap, since I get most of my stuff from inside the studio system, except for some of the "extended" stuff that I got here, like all of Tach's James Bond scores, which are compiled from a number of sources, but Tach did a fantastic job on them, and I would say to anyone that they should go to his thread and check them out, they are VERY rare. One studio friend came over to my house and was poking around in my CD collection, when he saw the BOND stuff, not only the CDs, mostly 2 CD per movie, but new custom artwork and the like, and he blew a dithium chip in his brain, he couldn't believe that I had all this "rare" stuff, and wanted me to make copies of the whole thing! I just grabbed all the CDs off of the shelves, and shoved them into his hands and told him to take them home and copy them for himself, since I still had all the original files stored on my backup drive, with all the artwork and everything. This guy then turned around and gave me a TON of great stuff, some of which I have shared here, hehehehehehe :)
Gotta keep your contacts happy, ya know?

William

I believe that they were, for the most part. I have no idea where I get stuff, but I'm just happy to share it with all you good people here. If someone says that I ripped off a score from him, then you can safely say that's a bunch of crap, since I get most of my stuff from inside the studio system, except for some of the "extended" stuff that I got here, like all of Tach's James Bond scores, which are compiled from a number of sources, but Tach did a fantastic job on them, and I would say to anyone that they should go to his thread and check them out, they are VERY rare. One studio friend came over to my house and was poking around in my CD collection, when he saw the BOND stuff, not only the CDs, mostly 2 CD per movie, but new custom artwork and the like, and he blew a dithium chip in his brain, he couldn't believe that I had all this "rare" stuff, and wanted me to make copies of the whole thing! I just grabbed all the CDs off of the shelves, and shoved them into his hands and told him to take them home and copy them for himself, since I still had all the original files stored on my backup drive, with all the artwork and everything. This guy then turned around and gave me a TON of great stuff, some of which I have shared here, hehehehehehe :)
Gotta keep your contacts happy, ya know?

William

Indeed you do need to keep them sweet. I have been listening to the Enterprise music and it is really good (quality of sound as well). It has made me want to watch the series. Music does that for me, sometimes I have realised that the music far outstrips the programme, but mostly I have found that they go well together.

I shall keep the WT69 logo on the side so it will match the TNG covers if they were supplied by your good self.

PCM

I got the boots from a variety of sources, not all from Will, though he may have been the ultimate source. These days who can tell. I had several already before I met him here. I got the 320 upgrades from Admiral Sorei...

HAIL ADMIRAL SOREI!

I got the boots from a variety of sources, not all from Will, though he may have been the ultimate source. These days who can tell. I had several already before I met him here. I got the 320 upgrades from Admiral Sorei...

Aye, that's the problem, you can never tell the original source, It was probably Brian Tyler himself ;)

Here we go, like it or not ;) it's the first cover for the Enterprise CD's. Recreated the front image so the 2nd in command was in the picture as well (sorry, only know the name of the Captain, Capt S Beckett LOL :D). I have also included some disc artwork this time.



Link: Download Can a Mum V1.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/mxdyzb)

Hope you like it guys. Have gone out on a limb with the back cover.

:DH.T.A.P.:D

PCM

Edited

Now with the correct volume number (which is Volume 2). So if you have the one that says Volume one please delete and re download. This has thew new link.

Please accept my apologies.

PCM

Update today:


Sorry guys, but you gotta wait one more day for the announcement.


MV

(that's for the D.S.9. set)

I love your creativity and your hard work. Excellent cover, PCM!

Just a FYI on CD self stick labels. I read that the labels over time will bleed through and mess up the dyes that the music is recorded on. I didn't believe it until I checked out the CD of the radio series Alien Worlds I bought about 10 years ago. They stuck printed labels on burned CDs, and EVERY one of them are now unreadable! Now I just use a felt tipped marker on an area of the disc, usually the center, to mark what it is. Sure it looks nice, and you can reburn another copy, but, if you get a CD that is rare Back it up fast....just saying, I know y'all do backups.

I love your creativity and your hard work. Excellent cover, PCM!

Just a FYI on CD self stick labels. I read that the labels over time will bleed through and mess up the dyes that the music is recorded on. I didn't believe it until I checked out the CD of the radio series Alien Worlds I bought about 10 years ago. They stuck printed labels on burned CDs, and EVERY one of them are now unreadable! Now I just use a felt tipped marker on an area of the disc, usually the center, to mark what it is. Sure it looks nice, and you can reburn another copy, but, if you get a CD that is rare Back it up fast....just saying, I know y'all do backups.

Thanks mate, glad you like them. Does that bleeding also happen to the discs with a printable face? Personally I use LightScribe discs. They take ages to to write, but look good.

:D

PCM

What have you got against garbage scows?

Nothing! but could not think of anything lower...other then a trash can (since outhouses are a little out of date) :)

Scott

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Pearl you have really out did your self! All I can say is WOW!!

Well my friend, you did not saw the limb off behind you! Well Done Indeed!!!

Scott

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Pearl you have really out did your self! All I can say is WOW!!

Well my friend, you did not saw the limb off behind you! Well Done Indeed!!!

Scott

Thank you very much Scotty. You would not guess how many times I adjusted the cover today alone. I'd saved my "Finished" different versions about 7 times. LOL. Kept seeing little tweaks I could do to make it better. The last one was using/changing the Enterprise patch into the "Volume 1" ident (had already tried 3 different Volume logo's), So I thought I'd best post it before I spent another evening on it.

Wish I'd gone into graphic design when I was a young man, It really is what I enjoy doing.

Once again thank you my friend for your kind comments.

:DH.T.A.P.:D

PCM

All I can say is W O W ! ! ! !

I really LOVE that disc label! Really great. I have a lightscribe in my laptop, but I have never used it. What I have seen I was not impressed with, but don't know if what I saw was actually a lightscribe disc. Does lightscribe print in color? What I saw looked like light silver printed on the disc, but just mono colored two level printing. A friend told me about "dye sub" printing, and said that it prints directly on the disc, and looks like silk screen printing, which would look like a store bought CD. But I understand that Dyesub printing is also fairly costly. I was going to buy a printer like that, but it costs about $100,000.00, and the ink or whatever they use, is really pricey also, so..... :)

William

Thank you very much Scotty. You would not guess how many times I adjusted the cover today alone. I'd saved my "Finished" different versions about 7 times. LOL. Kept seeing little tweaks I could do to make it better. The last one was using/changing the Enterprise patch into the "Volume 1" ident (had already tried 3 different Volume logo's), So I thought I'd best post it before I spent another evening on it.

Wish I'd gone into graphic design when I was a young man, It really is what I enjoy doing.

Once again thank you my friend for your kind comments.

:DH.T.A.P.:D

PCM

You are very welcome Pearl! I am pretty picky about my music files (the right covers, tracks in the right order, composer, conductor, artist, date) so I can hazard a guess what you went through!

Yeah, sounds like me when it comes to Networking and building computers (all that was offered in collage in my time was computer science..aka Programing! not my cup of tea) so I went another way and only later did I go back to school and was the first Law Enforcement officer (in my county anyway) to get certified for CNE! which did not do my career any good, until computers came into everyday use and the Internet was offered to the general public, but by then there was a whole new generation into them and once again I was out of date...a Captain Dunsel if you like. Now I try and keep up with the newest technology's, and I'm consistently being reminded how old and out of date I am again! oh well, kids do do that to us lol but I can build my own computer (which I'm in the middle of doing now) and my son's can't :p Still you have created a work of art! and should be very proud of what you have done...."Three Cheers for Pearl" "Hip Hip Hooray....Hip Hip Hooray...Hip Hip Hooray" so say we all!

Scott

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All I can say is W O W ! ! ! !

I really LOVE that disc label! Really great. I have a lightscribe in my laptop, but I have never used it. What I have seen I was not impressed with, but don't know if what I saw was actually a lightscribe disc. Does lightscribe print in color? What I saw looked like light silver printed on the disc, but just mono colored two level printing. A friend told me about "dye sub" printing, and said that it prints directly on the disc, and looks like silk screen printing, which would look like a store bought CD. But I understand that Dyesub printing is also fairly costly. I was going to buy a printer like that, but it costs about $100,000.00, and the ink or whatever they use, is really pricey also, so..... :)

William

No lightscribe only prints in B/W at lest for now! I do know that they are working on a way to do color, but no luck yet...and you have to use lightscribe disc's only to print on. There are a few printers that do a good job of printing CD art but nothing like a manufactured one and way out of a normal persons financial price. :(

Scott

All I can say is W O W ! ! ! !

I really LOVE that disc label! Really great. I have a lightscribe in my laptop, but I have never used it. What I have seen I was not impressed with, but don't know if what I saw was actually a lightscribe disc. Does lightscribe print in color? What I saw looked like light silver printed on the disc, but just mono colored two level printing. A friend told me about "dye sub" printing, and said that it prints directly on the disc, and looks like silk screen printing, which would look like a store bought CD. But I understand that Dyesub printing is also fairly costly. I was going to buy a printer like that, but it costs about $100,000.00, and the ink or whatever they use, is really pricey also, so..... :)

William

Thank you William.
Yes, light scribe is only mono. but you can get different colour discs, and I always adapt the images to look the best in a mono finish (You have to do this or they look rubbish). There are 3 print settings, and you have to have it on best. It takes about 15 minutes to print, but does look much darker.

When I used to work for Olympus, we made a paper dye sub printer and they used a plastic ribbon cartridge for printing. The pictures were fantastic, and I can imagine if you could do that on a CD, it would be perfect, however, if that is the cost of one......well it would be beyond my reach.

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You are very welcome Pearl! I am pretty picky about my music files (the right covers, tracks in the right order, composer, conductor, artist, date) so I can hazard a guess what you went through!

Yeah, sounds like me when it comes to Networking and building computers (all that was offered in collage in my time was computer science..aka Programing! not my cup of tea) so I went another way and only later did I go back to school and was the first Law Enforcement officer (in my county anyway) to get certified for CNE! which did not do my career any good, until computers came into everyday use and the Internet was offered to the general public, but by then there was a whole new generation into them and once again I was out of date...a Captain Dunsel if you like. Now I try and keep up with the newest technology's, and I'm consistently being reminded how old and out of date I am again! oh well, kids do do that to us lol but I can build my own computer (which I'm in the middle of doing now) and my son's can't :p Still you have created a work of art! and should be very proud of what you have done...."Three Cheers for Pearl" "Hip Hip Hooray....Hip Hip Hooray...Hip Hip Hooray" so say we all!

Scott

Yeah, at least we can do it for ourselves and our friends on an amateur level. I did get one paid job. CD should be out this year sometime. Will be nice to have one retail cover in my life, however it has taken over a year and a half so far and the disc still hasn't been released. But at least I was paid LOL.

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Oh POO!!!! I didn't look at the episode guide before I started these. These soundtracks are now going to be out of order. Canamar should have been volume 2. Arghhhhhhhhhh, now my OCD is working overtime. Going to have to make an alteration to the front cover to make it volume 2. Sorry Guys. :(

I can get you an ep order quickly if you want. They are arranged in my library that way.

Season 1, Episode 1: Broken Bow
Season 1, Episode 12: Silent Enemy
Season 2, Episode 17: Canamar
Season 2, Episode 23: Regeneration
Season 3, Episode 10: Similitude
Season 4, Episodes 18 & 19: Through A Mirror Darkly
Season 4, Episode 22: These Are The Voyages

OK Really sorry guys. This had the wrong volume number on the front, How do the kids say it these days....My Bad (never understood that, terrible grammar. However, I blame it on the mobile phone and "TEXT SPEAK", but I digress) So here are the covers again, but correct. Once again I apologise to anyone who has downloaded these files and has to do so again.



Link: Download Can a Mum V1.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/mxdyzb)

Password: Goldensands

Apology: Heartfelt

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I can get you an ep order quickly if you want. They are arranged in my library that way.

Season 1, Episode 1: Broken Bow
Season 1, Episode 12: Silent Enemy
Season 1, Episode 17: Canamar
Season 2, Episode 23: Regeneration
Season 3, Episode 10: Similitude
Season 4, Episodes 18 & 19: Through A Mirror Darkly
Season 4, Episode 22: These Are The Voyages

Thank you Amanda. That is very useful. I shall not include Broken Bow though as it is an official release.

:)

Thanks mate, glad you like them. Does that bleeding also happen to the discs with a printable face? Personally I use LightScribe discs. They take ages to to write, but look good.

:D

PCM

I haven't heard of any problems.

As for CD case covers a DVD wraps, I always do them for all my disc, whether burned or used disc only that I buy without covers.
My Brother don't understand the fuss over covers, but he ain't into music like I am.

Just a history note about me, my first soundtrack
was an LP of 2001:A Space Odyssey I got in 1975, and I have never stopped buying/downloading them.

Anyone interested, I edited my episode guide post. Pearl is correct, Canamar is season 2, not 1 as I posted.

...my first soundtrack
was an LP of 2001:A Space Odyssey I got in 1975...

Extreme cool factor.

I haven't heard of any problems.

As for CD case covers a DVD wraps, I always do them for all my disc, whether burned or used disc only that I buy without covers.
My Brother don't understand the fuss over covers, but he ain't into music like I am.

Just a history note about me, my first soundtrack
was an LP of 2001:A Space Odyssey I got in 1975, and I have never stopped buying/downloading them.My first soundtrack was The Black Hole by the late great John Barry in 1979. I didn't buy it, I won it when I entered a Heinz baked beans or spaghetti hoops competition. I listened to that album so much. The soundtrack was/is far better than the film ever was (but I did like the film as well).

PCM

My FIRST soundtrack was actually "Mission: Impossible" back in 1966! Then I got the horrible "Man from UNCLE" version that was put out! My third was "Our man Flint", which I still own today (all three!) :)

I heard about the CD labels doing that about 10-12 years ago, and I stopped putting them on my CDs, but some of my older CDs are still okay, after nearly 15 years with the label on them, and those old labels were really horrible, with massive sticky on them, not like the ones they have today, which is almost like a 3M sticky type of glue, not so harsh! I still think this "Dyesub" process might be the ticket! :)

William

On a Star Trek music not, am I the only one that dislikes that on the CDs, that the Main Title comes BEFORE the Teaser? When I copy the CDs to my PC, I change the track numbers to reflect the correct order. It is better than reediting the DVDs.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

On the official cd's or boots? On most boots, the main title or end title are not usually even there. Plus, tack order is all wrong on most of them. This was actually the subject of my post that was deemed not appropriate, yet here we are, with someone else talking about it no problem. :rolleyes:

On the official cd's or boots?

He means the LLL TOS set.

On the official cd's or boots? On most boots, the main title or end title are not usually even there. Plus, tack order is all wrong on most of them. This was actually the subject of my post that was deemed not appropriate, yet here we are, with someone else talking about it no problem. :rolleyes:

On the Official CDs, LLL and the other past ones.

I NEVER deem any of your posts inappropriate!

On a different note for advice: The mention of lightscribe for dvd/cd creation was mentioned. Do those of you who use this process have an external unit for this or have you had an internal drive mounted? Also, does it actually scribe the color or just a basic two-tone? Any information, direction, or even alternative process info would be gratefully appreciated.

On a different note for advice: The mention of lightscribe for dvd/cd creation was mentioned. Do those of you who use this process have an external unit for this or have you had an internal drive mounted? Also, does it actually scribe the color or just a basic two-tone? Any information, direction, or even alternative process info would be gratefully appreciated.

It is just grayscale. However they now produce lightscribe disks in different colours. The actual printing is still grayscale though. I find that if you produce your label with a higher contrast ratio than you would normally use you can get good results. Always create the images in black and white.

My lightscribe is an internal drive, however Liteon produce external drives with the lightscribe built in.

Hope that is of some help robncat12

For the Deep Space Nine Fans, the actually Tracklist from the 4 -Disc Set Deep Space Nine (La La Land) ReleaseDate 12.2.2013:

Tracklist:

Disc One
Music by DENNIS?McCARTHY
1. STAR TREK: DEEP?SPACE?NINE
Main Title (Seasons 1�3)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
2. � 4. THE STORYTELLER
5. DUET
6. IN THE HANDS OF THE PROPHETS
7. THE HOMECOMING
8. � 9. THE CIRCLE
10. � 11. CROSSOVER
12. LIFE SUPPORT
13. � 15. THE?DIE IS CAST
16. � 18. EXPLORERS
19. THE VISITOR
20. SHATTERED MIRROR
21. ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH
22. FAR BEYOND THE STARS
23. � 24. YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED
25. STAR?TREK:?DEEP SPACE NINE?
End Credits (Seasons 1�3)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
Disc One � Total Time: 76:51

Disc Two
Music by JAY CHATTAWAY
1. STAR TREK: DEEP?SPACE?NINE
Main Title (Seasons 4�7)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
2. � 4. THE SEARCH � PART I
5. � 6. THE?SEARCH � PART II
7. � 8. BROKEN LINK
9. � 11. BY INFERNO�S LIGHT
12. � 15. CALL TO ARMS
16. ONE LITTLE SHIP
17. � 18. STRANGE BEDFELLOWS
19. � 20. THE CHANGING FACE OF EVIL
21. � 22. OUR MAN BASHIR (Source Cues)
23. STAR?TREK:?DEEP SPACE NINE
End Credits (Seasons 4�7)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
Disc Two � Total Time: 76:56

Disc Three
Music by THE?NEW?RECRUITS
1. STAR TREK: DEEP?SPACE?NINE
Main Title (Seasons 4�7, Alternate Mix)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
2. THE NAGUS � Music by John Debney
3. � 5. PROGRESS � Music by John Debney
6. THE HOUSE OF QUARK
Music by Richard Bellis
7. THE SWORD OF KAHLESS
Music by David Bell
8. � 9. THE ASCENT � Music by David Bell
10. SOLDIERS OF THE EMPIRE
Music by David Bell
11. � 13. SACRIFICE OF ANGELS
Music by David Bell
14. - 15. IN?THE?PALE?MOONLIGHT
Music by David Bell
16. TAKE ME OUT TO THE HOLOSUITE
Music by David Bell
17. COVENANT � Music by David Bell
18. TACKING INTO THE WIND
Music by David Bell
19. THE ASSIGNMENT
Music by Gregory Smith
20. � 21. FIELD OF FIRE � Music by Gregory Smith
22. LITTLE?GREEN?MEN
Music by Paul Baillargeon
23. CHILDREN?OF?TIME
Music by Paul Baillargeon
24. � 25. THE SIEGE OF AR-558
Music by Paul Baillargeon
26. STAR?TREK:?DEEP SPACE NINE
End Credits (Seasons 4�7, Alternate Mix)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
Disc Three � Total Time: 79:09

Disc FOUR
THE LOST ALBUM
1. STAR TREK: DEEP?SPACE?NINE
Main Title (Seasons 1 - 3, Without Effects)
Music by Dennis McCarthy
2. � 7. OUR?MAN?BASHIR
Music by Jay Chattaway
8. � 15. TRIALS?AND?TRIBBLE-ATIONS
Music by Dennis McCarthy
16. � 24. WHAT?YOU?LEAVE?BEHIND
Music by Dennis McCarthy
25. STAR TREK: DEEP?SPACE?NINE
(After 3:00 A.M. At Quark�s Mix)
Main Theme for Solo Piano
Performed by Dennis McCarthy

Disc Four � Total Time: 76:51
Total Time � All Discs: 5:09:47

It is just grayscale. However they now produce lightscribe disks in different colours. The actual printing is still grayscale though. I find that if you produce your label with a higher contrast ratio than you would normally use you can get good results. Always create the images in black and white.

My lightscribe is an internal drive, however Liteon produce external drives with the lightscribe built in.

Hope that is of some help robncat12

This helps me too. My Brother gave me his PC to replace my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif one, and it has LightScribe and I haven't tried it yet.
I had read that the image will fade fast or rub off, any truths to that?

Here's Volume One, and this one is definitely volume 1 ;). I quite like the front image, which is an amalgamation of two images and a bit of photoshop lens flare, but it's quite an atmospheric picture.

Hope you all like it. :D



Link: Download QUIET BADDIE.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/hp5y7d)

Password: Goldensands

:DH.T.A.P.:D

PCM

My first soundtrack was The Black Hole by the late great John Barry in 1979. I didn't buy it, I won it when I entered a Heinz baked beans or spaghetti hoops competition. I listened to that album so much. The soundtrack was/is far better than the film ever was (but I did like the film as well).

PCM

Like you said, the music is better than the film.

Thread 95664

Also found this link http://depositfiles.com/files/q3kik93rr

This helps me too. My Brother gave me his PC to replace my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif one, and it has LightScribe and I haven't tried it yet.
I had read that the image will fade fast or rub off, any truths to that?

I've not noticed that. They seem to be alright to me. I've cleaned the discs with a lens cloth and they seem to be alright.

If you look at a burned disc which hasn't been used up fully, you'll see where the data stops short. With scribing technology you basically make a picture using 1s and 0s. To create the illusion of mid-tones the software dithers 1s and 0s depending on the picture (and depending on the software used). The thing to note is to source CDs which will create a good contrast between written and non-written areas on the disc. A light coloured disc is usually poor. A dark blue is usually the best.

Regarding fading. No chance. The laser goes through the plastic layer and on to the metal underneath. When you handle a disc, the side with the label is actually where the data is kept - on a thin metal layer. That's why it's not advisable to write on discs with a ball-point pen.

The first soundtrack I heard was Star Wars in the theater at the first time. The first score album I heard was the Trek the Motion Picture lp, which I had perpetually checked out of the library. The first albums I owned were the double lp's for Star Wars and Empire Strikes back as X-Mas gifts, and the first album bought with my own money was Star Trek II's lp, followed by the Battle Beyond the Stars lp.

EDIT:

Sorry for posting my poor unworthy opinion and thoughts on any esteemed subject posted by you guys. :( :sad:

Amanda...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/017.gif. Come on, your opinions are most valued, but I will http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif if it makes you feel better, but...I won't enjoy it.

The first soundtrack I heard was Star Wars in the theater at the first time. The first score album I heard was the Trek the Motion Picture lp, which I had perpetually checked out of the library. The first albums I owned were the double lp's for Star Wars and Empire Strikes back as X-Mas gifts, and the first album bought with my own money was Star Trek II's lp, followed by the Battle Beyond the Stars lp.

EDIT:

Sorry for posting my poor unworthy opinion and thoughts on any esteemed subject posted by you guys. :( :sad:

I remember borrowing LP's from the library. It was a bit like a box of chocolates, you never knew what you might get (to coin a phrase) some were in such poor condition. As you know Amanda, I also respect your opinion :)

PCM

"Hawaii Five-O" soundtrack 1969 was my first one! and still have the album :) man that was a long time ago! but it still sounds great after all these years. Our country library decided to retire all there LP's from use (they switched to CD's) and just sold them off to whoever wanted them for like .25 cents each! so I bought all I could, some where bad (well used) and some had never been played at all, but I did find some great ones!

Scott

And I respect your opinion too Amanda!

I got "Hawaii Five-O" LP, too. I don't remember what LPs I have, and 45s, I plan to, as said here, rip then to my PC. I did buy a lot of Star Trek movies and TV LPs. Two of the LPs I thought were unusual were Silent Running on green vinyl, and Superman II with I think it was holo- logos etched into it.

oh, didnn't you guys realize by now? I breathe sarcasm and **never** let things go until I am ready too.

:erm: God no, another non Trek post. Imma naughty Trekette. Sorry....so sorry. :(

I got "Hawaii Five-O" LP, too. I don't remember what LPs I have, and 45s, I plan to, as said here, rip then to my PC. I did buy a lot of Star Trek movies and TV LPs. Two of the LPs I thought were unusual were Silent Running on green vinyl, and Superman II with I think it was holo- logos etched into it.

Cool! I got a ton of mine through my older cousins (their in there 60's now) after they left home, all the Beatles albums, beach boys, jan & dean (LP's & 45's), classical, easy listening! thats what I been doing the last few years is copying them to my PC, putting them back into their jackets and storing them...one of the reasons I have had to get bigger HD's and a newer computer. Silent Running! wow!! what a great movie and soundtrack, thats one of the LP's I could never find!! you lucky dog :)

Scott