Generations?

:awsm: Of Course

Wonderful, very, very, very old but top notch Star Trek comic covers:

?TO BOLDLY GO?? VINTAGE STAR TREK GOLD KEY COMICS (http://houseofretro.com/index.php/2014/04/06/to-boldly-go-vintage-star-trek-gold-key-comics/)

Or, are genuinely over enthusiastic. A lot of new sharers do this, just posting everything they have.

Indeed. I do that, almost all of my shares are downloaded from somewhere else. I have very few rips of my own.

If I have neglected to mention the original uploader it's probably because I didn't know who the original uploader was. It's all about sharing, anyway. The rest is just ego.

V.

Digging Out A Few Of The Old Sc-Fi Shows On The List

Star Trek (All)
Babylon 5
Andromeda
X-Files
Stargate (All)

I May Start With Stargate First (Still Sealed Not Watched Yet LOL)

Sounds like you'll be busy.

:awsm:

For those whose Klingon is a bit rusty... Bing Translator (http://www.bing.com/translator/) (Select Klingon from languages)

Oh, and this is just cute.

Digging Out A Few Of The Old Sc-Fi Shows On The List

Star Trek (All)
Babylon 5
Andromeda
X-Files
Stargate (All)

I May Start With Stargate First (Still Sealed Not Watched Yet LOL)

I for me, I only need to finish Star Trek Enterprise
I still watch Andromeda (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/andromeda-musical-journey-78421/#post2653334) once in a while, great serie, just love the Arkologie Theme. Nietzscheans sarcasm is funny. So much for the superior race that is ridicule by one kludge that was born 300 years ago.

Gaiton: Is there really such a difference between my ancestors and me?
Dylan: Yeah. They're dead.

Tyr: You're right. This might have been easier had we been able to follow your plan.
Dylan: Damn! That was almost an apology!
Tyr: It was nothing of the sort.

Cuchulain: Until now, all I cared about was Tyr, and what he stole from us. Now, I care very much about you.
Dylan: Well, you see, that's what the universe needs more people caring for each other. Have a good trip out!


Stargate (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/stargate-movie-sg-1-atlantis-osts-moregate-59057/#post2488172) : Great show, still have fun to listen over again "The Siege Part 3" : Atlantis. Acquire the entire series (atlantis) in HD for 25$. Error in price and promotions at the Best Buy Canada. Lucky me !

X-file and Babylon 5 are still not in my list.

Luckily For Me Andromeda Finally Got A DVD Release In The UK!!!! :awsm:
So I Can Finally Watch All The Way Thu (No Adverts)

Just Finished S1 Of Farscape Dug That Out Aswell :p
So I May See Andromeda After :)

Andromeda starts out with a great deal of promise, but when the whole production shakeup happened during Season 3 it felt like it went of on an extreme tangent. Many episode incongruities. However, as strange as it was, I enjoyed the last season and the way it was ended.

Howdy Campers!

I just posted a rumination on my blog concerning the concept of STAR TREK as 1960s culture-jammer.

Mark's Super Blog: Media Virus -- Silly Book, Intriguing Idea (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/media-virus-silly-book-intriguing-idea.html)

Since I love getting philosophically hammered, I wanted to share it with you guys. {affectionate sarcasm teasing mode}

See ya!


Mark
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Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

Star Gate-loved the movie but didn't get much chance to watch the TV series, will have to look into it. 1st I will be checking e-bay for Voyager series maybe I can pick it up cheap :)

Max
I know you've seen Voyager, but I would watch it all over again before I'd watch SG Series, kind've a "oh there's nothing else to do, so I'll watch SG." eh heeeeeee cough coooouuuugh, ohhhhh.

All The Stargates Are Good :)
But I Favor Universe (Robert Carlyle) LOL But I Still Like Them All


Voyager Well Come On You Have To Buy It Just Because :awsm:

I'm really kidding, I've not seen them, but maybe a couple episodes. Was just a little slow for my taste. I'm sure I probably caught the two slowest episodes.

I liked all Stargate. Sg1 of course, but Atlantis and specially universe had their charms too. The darkness if universe was cool. I would have loved to see what they come up with.

After having finished ds9 I will start voyager. Will still be a little while.
After that I will turn to sg1...

Watched Star Trek OS , DS9 and Bab 5 so far this year still have Star Trek NG , Buck Rogers , and Battlestar Galactica org. What did you think of the new Battlestar Galactica ? I only was able to see a few episodes because of work.

What did you think of the new Battlestar Galactica ? I only was able to see a few episodes because of work.

i loved it. i loved Caprica too, found it quite brilliant and would have loved to see more. could have filled the gaps in cylon history.
Back then, I really adored the old Battlestar and watched all of it, the new one has a great drama quality though, good characters (the starbuck twist was totally unexpected to me, from benedict to sackhoff)
i thoroughly enjoyed th new one, one of the series i can watch repeatedly.

....i have some trek news app on my cell phone, and yesterday i read they will do a trek/planet of the apes crossover in comics?
anybody?

SDCC 2014: Star Trek/Planet of the Apes Crossover Comic Coming

"Get your hands off me, you damn dirty Klingon!" That's right, Star Trek and The Planet of the Apes will be mashed up for a sci-fi crossover comic for the ages.Have you ever wondered what it would be like to "mind-meld" with a sentient ape? Or wanted to see a Klingon on horseback, brandishing a rifle? Readers will soon have a chance to peek into just such an alternate future, as IDW Publishing partners with BOOM! Studios for the crossover event of the year: Star Trek/Planet of the Apes.

IDW will publish the crossover, which will mark the first time BOOM! Studios has partnered with another publisher on a series. Together they will bring Star Trek, licensed by CBS Consumer Products, and 20th Century Fox's Planet of the Apes together in a way that is sure to delight existing fans and make new ones. The series will pair the original U.S.S. Enterprise crew with Taylor, Nova and the cast from the original Planet of the Apes film.

The creative team will be a mix of proven experience and new blood with scripts by beloved Star Trek scribes Scott and David Tipton (Star Trek: The Next Generation/Doctor Who: Assimilation 2) and interior art and covers by the British newcomer Rachael Stott.

"With the Klingons secretly backing a renegade gorilla general in a coup for control of Ape City, Captain Kirk finds himself in the uncomfortable position of having to help out Dr. Zaius' orangutans," explains David Tipton. "Taylor won't be happy with that!"
SDCC 2014: Star Trek/Planet of the Apes Crossover Comic Coming - IGN (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/07/26/sdcc-2014-star-trekplanet-of-the-apes-crossover-comic-coming)

This crossover follows the recent Doctor Who/Star Trek and Star Trek/Legion Of Super Heroes crossovers that have happened.

The lines between reality and fantasy are becoming blurred- my poor star trek. Soon they will make a movie and everyone will throw bananas at the screen-DAM APES

I'd like to see a crossover between Star Trek, Blake's 7, Dune, Babylon 5, Max Headroom, Red Dwarf, The A-Team, Quincy, The Prisoner, Fantasy Island, and The Love Boat.

theone, you're unstable! welcome to the Club.

theone, you're unstable! welcome to the Club.

Praise from Caesar.

If you want a crossover doing right you've got to do it yourself. I'm writing chapter 1 right now.

The story so far... Federation Troopers (of Blake's 7) take over Star Fleet (by walking in with fake IDs) and set up an Italian Bistro at HQ. Outraged by this display of decadence, the Fremen (of Dune) start stockpiling Earth's water underground, and drink recycled urine and chocolate cake. The lack of water strands the Love Boat, and it's no longer the Love Boat after the passengers and crew realise nobody is coming to their rescue (Lord of the Flies style passenger reduction system will be in place). I'll be working Quincy in at the end of Chapter 1 when there will be dead bodies aplenty. Back to my scroll.

How do you drink chocolate cake?

Put it in a belnder and pour in a mug

Thank you very much.

How do you drink chocolate cake?

Slowly, same with white or yellow cake.

Don't inhale. Is there actually any Trek material not posted or re-upped I can help with? Score I mean?

That pic reminds me of The Big Hair Bands of the 80's, but 20 years after.
Biggest thing I need is the scans for 2014 - ST TNG - Encounter At Farpoint - The Arsenal Of Freedom (D.McCarthy)[GNP 2014]

I dunno what it is from. It is obviously a first season uniform. I found it and the clip following youtube links of Trek bloopers. Some random extra perhaps? Comments mention the hair line, but not reference or context.

Is It A Deleted Scene?? Because He Looks Confused Like He Forgot His Line LOL

eh hehe yeah. Or he just realized he's wearing a red uniform.

Yh Its A Un Relased Pilot For TNG LOL Where They Still Think The Red Shirts Get Killed He Has Been Told That He Has To Join The Away Team
And He's O F*)*%$�$

Yea, but in Next Gen red is command, gold is security.

Yes Before The Offical Release They Where Still Debating Wether To Keep Command Gold Or Change to Red LOL
And He Still Thinks Command Is Gold So Is Crapping His Pants After Hearing He Has to Join The Away Team

So he doesn't know he's in command? Then they tricked him into the gold uniform and killed him off anyway. To bad we don't have a shot of that look on his face when they said, ok in this scene you die! oopsyyy!
Ok, you can leave the set now, we don't need you anymore...security!!!!

Well, look. IF the away team is Picard, Worf, Beverly and this guy, who is really gonna get it. I mean really? The only exception was Tasha getting snuffed instead of security nobodies.

Yeah, but she was asking for it, I mean literally. He hasn't left the set yet! SECURITY!!!!!!!

Picard.


This Guy Looks Like Such A Coward And Idiot He Would Dive Behind Picard Resulting In The Captain Getting Shot

Well, a certain member has complained that HE is the actor pictured in the Trek clip and picture. So out of literally millions of YouTube clips, I just **happened** to stumble across one pic of him? And now, apparently he is adding acting In Next Gen - really - as part of his resume. Sure, sure, I buy it.

*cough..bullshit**

But ok. Even though he can or won't offer proof, I will remove them.

1) out of respect for the unwritten code of not involving private lives or pics without permission. As unlikely (bullshit) as it is, I will take it at face value. (bullshiiiit)
2) Out of respect - absolute - for Jessie and Sanico who certainly have enough headaches to deal with lately.

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Ok well look. Assuming this is true, and I guess we take everyone at face value, I heartily apologize for any discomfort or offense incurred. I honestly had no way to know this, it is a miscellaneous image on the net. But truly I meant NO harm, and would not have posted if it was known.

OK, so he (If that really is his gender) posts a pic doesn't want his pic posted. Hmmm ok - sounds more like Wale-shit to me, but whatever, so I won't post it either. (Caugh, hack, tuwey) Guess I should've faced away from my monitor. BTW, if he's an actor? his pic if on the internet is pretty much open to post. Come on, do you think that all the actors of Next Gen are going to browse over here and demand we take any pics of them down? LOLOLOL

Hey, if it's true, it is totally understandable. We all take each other at face value, so ok fine. I certainly do not really wish to aggravate hard feelings, so fine. The only way to know is if he posted rl pics and since he does not (for the most part with 1 exception), we should not ask. It doesn't matter. :b

Have I missed something? Which picture are you referring to?

No matter. It's not really that important.

Well, ok. Thanks to the...protests over the pic, I figured there could only be one source of them, and so googled it. It is indeed a member here, and he indeed uses his real name. So, I understand the feeling of it being posted without permission and it being made fun of here. Although being fair, no one here knew that is what we were doing and I am sure none would have had they known. It is not bloopers, nor an extra. Something else entirely. So, yea, my bad on that. But I honestly didn't know. I mean, I knew some details of the vid and that it existed, but had not seen it. (I have NOW by the way...Ballsy, sir, quite ballsy :D). So I reiterate, this was NOT an intentional slight or act.

:erm: :erm:

I was googling for custom images for Intrada's complete Alien score, and it spit this out at me:

(http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/amandag68/media/toobeaucoup1_zps10e0ad97.jpg.html)

I....ummmm...I dunno what to make of that....:erm:

:awsm:

**PLEASE do not tell me these guys are actually site members or sumsuch :sad:

Well......Um.....Hmm....I....Just.....That...Seems Alien to Me....

:awsm:

It's an advert for baby powder. I personally believe that it goes overboard just a tad.

Wait I Tick I Knew I Had Seen Them Before.......They Went to My Second Cousin Who Is 3 Times Removed on my Aunt's Sister's Brother's Side's Birthday Party And Stole All The Presents.

That explains the strange pose, as though they stopped and one of them said look normal, don't attract attention.

Quote!


[OC]: "It's jamming our transporter frequencies. I've only got three of them working, and I'm not sure of those. One of you has got to wait."
"Chekov, McCoy, prepare for transportation. You, too, Spock."
"Request permission to remain, Captain. I could be completing the data."

Keep Eye Out I'm Starting The Quiz Again (I May Include Other Sc-Fi Shows I Donno Yet)

Star Trek The Original Series Season 3 Episode 9 "The Tholian Web"

Perhaps the Blue People are re-enacting a mime version of Jurassic Park. "Stand still and it won't know you're there."

Why couldn't they have stood still, somewhere other than in front of the camera!?

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

Make It So - Star Trek Generations [Import Promo Single] (1995)
Produced and Mixed by Iain Levine, Tim Eames and Iain Simpson



1. Make It So - Star Trek Generations with the voice of Patrick Stewart (Radio Edit)
2. Make It So - Star Trek Generations Instrumental (Radio Edit)
3. Make It So - Star Trek Generations with the voice of Patrick Stewart (Club Mix)
4. Make It So - Star Trek Generations Instrumental (Club Mix)

Rare European techno promotional CD single presented at 320kbps. Includes scans.

https://www.rapidshare.com/files/459836260/MakeItPromo.rar

Does anyone, by any chance, have a copy of this they can re-up? I've been looking for it for ages!

Make It So - Star Trek Generations [Import Promo Single] (1995)
Produced and Mixed by Iain Levine, Tim Eames and Iain Simpson



1. Make It So - Star Trek Generations with the voice of Patrick Stewart (Radio Edit)
2. Make It So - Star Trek Generations Instrumental (Radio Edit)
3. Make It So - Star Trek Generations with the voice of Patrick Stewart (Club Mix)
4. Make It So - Star Trek Generations Instrumental (Club Mix)

Rare European techno promotional CD single presented at 320kbps. Includes scans.


Does anyone, by any chance, have a copy of this they can re-up? I've been looking for it for ages!

Credit to Izbot for this
NSO-STTMP.rar 87.1 MB (https://mega.co.nz/#!SZdS1YiS!BNSYS2RNta2Ymfodx2SwRhb8K8hrDNc2791HLbK AOoA)

Does anyone, by any chance, have a copy of this they can re-up? I've been looking for it for ages!

Oh no! Not Ian Latrine :O

Does anyone have any links for the startrek box sets? Like the 14 disk original series, or the ron jones music?

Thanks.

I would actually bet my life on that slanders

I would actually bet my life on that slanders

And you know what, Slanders352? He even would survive this bet one hundred percent! By joining this forum you have entered an Eldorado of trek goodies. Yes, this is a trekker's candy shop - come in and suit yourself! :)

"Sir I Must Protest, I Am Not A Merry Man!"

:awsm:

@MrGold: and you will not kill for food?

;)

my Eldorado will now be my bed...

Does anyone have any links for the startrek box sets? Like the 14 disk original series, or the ron jones music?


Thanks.


Yes. But the TOS set is huge, and would take some dedication. The Ron Jones set is by FSM, and is one of the labels not allowed on the set. It would have to be shared via pm, and again is time consuming. I can't make promises I can get to it very soon.

Yes. But the TOS set is huge, and would take some dedication. The Ron Jones set is by FSM, and is one of the labels not allowed on the set. It would have to be shared via pm, and again is time consuming. I can't make promises I can get to it very soon.

I did download the entire thing a few weeks ago from the OP that supports this thread...
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/mcglynns-boxsets-other-collections-~-flac-~-135212/

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Am I crazy or did I see a Star Trek the Animated Series link here in the forum at one point?

Am I crazy or did I see a Star Trek the Animated Series link here in the forum at one point?




The Animated Series Has Never Had A Soundtrack Release :(

I know, but I thought someone had managed to do a capture with the sound effects though. It's not the best score in the fanchise, but it's likeable. I used to love the cartoon as a kid.

Pass Then I Donno About That :)

Aha! Success, I have found it! I finally get a chance to contribute. Here's the link to the score on youtube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98YVATSdfII&list=PLE8AB7F4CD12BC468

I Can Pull Of Y/T And Up to MEGA If You Want ??

That would be great, some of these were reused in other Filmation shows too.

That would be great, some of these were reused in other Filmation shows too.

Right Just Upping Gimmie A Mo

Found another one to add to the set...By my count that makes it 7 tracks now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JueL20Mcglo

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Thought I was done but found this one also. Seems to be ripped from one of the episodes and has several different bits of score pieced together. Alot of it not found in the other tracks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p03jG546GQc

Well Its Not Long But Hey Think Of It As A Single (I Also Cropped Your Img To Make A Cover)

Star Trek: The Animated Series (Single)

1CD
MP3 128Kbs
8 Tracks
22Mins

Tracks
1. Main Titles
2. Episode Titles/Captain's Log
3. Tension Mounts
4. Danger Approaching/Variation
5. Action Cue 3
6. End Titles
7. Background Music
8. Suite
https://mega.co.nz/#!KpBFiJBR!OK7l__BjXYN-ZrACdRFSKTZmkOOhULFwRWzgNgVfKNY

Outstanding!

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And something to keep a grin on everyone's face....

Carol Burnett Show - Star Trek Parody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WBKah3uwg

Outstanding!

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And something to keep a grin on everyone's face....

Carol Burnett Show - Star Trek Parody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WBKah3uwg

Very cute and astute. I detect one of two possibilities.

Either this was written by a closet (out of the closet????) STAR TREK fan ...
Or TREK is just enough of a cultural influence that any competent skit writer could come up with something this clever and just "thro in" the TREK buzz words learned from everyday life.

Either way, jolly good fun. Reminiscent in a bit of The Procrustean Petard - Memory Beta, non-canon Star Trek Wiki (http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Procrustean_Petard), in http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-New-Voyages-2/dp/0553113925/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=11RCY9SJQYT9T3DGPY67 . A wascally cosmic switch reverse the sexes of the transversees.

Burnett did a spot-on Kirk spoof, I thought.


Mark
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Saturday Night Live Trek skit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0xOgFDXFg

And who could forget this one...?

Star Trek: The Wrath of Farrakhan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52o1d7XPni0

Well Its Not Long But Hey Think Of It As A Single (I Also Cropped Your Img To Make A Cover)

Star Trek: The Animated Series (Single)

1CD
MP3 128Kbs
8 Tracks
22Mins

Tracks
1. Main Titles
2. Episode Titles/Captain's Log
3. Tension Mounts
4. Danger Approaching/Variation
5. Action Cue 3
6. End Titles
7. Background Music
8. Suite
https://mega.co.nz/#!KpBFiJBR!OK7l__BjXYN-ZrACdRFSKTZmkOOhULFwRWzgNgVfKNY

I was just going to upload my own variation of that score for everyone but Mr. Gold beat me to it. haha

If Its Different Feel Free :)

Quote


"They're Trying to Kill Us! They're Trying to Kill Us Jim!"

Some memorable score from TAS, a pity rights issues can't be resolved for a release...:notgood:

Assuming of course the material still exists...:sad:

Outstanding!

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And something to keep a grin on everyone's face....

Carol Burnett Show - Star Trek Parody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WBKah3uwg

Too Funny!

Thank you

Some memorable score from TAS, a pity rights issues can't be resolved for a release...:notgood:

Assuming of course the material still exists...:sad:

Yes, it really is a shame. It's all about the bling. ;(

lester1231, this is a new upload for the book you're looking for. There are also two more shorter articles I've added, that may be of interest to you (described below):

https://mega.co.nz/#!TcQBSKTT!eOCe9EmrGURTaSab-LRCov7mpB7ZfLaZFXFNaeA-YEY

This file contains:

Bond, Jeff: The Music of Star Trek. Profiles in Style. Lone Eagle Publishing Company, 1999 [pdf]

Fred Steiner: �Music for Star Trek: Scoring a Television Show in the Sixties,� in Iris B. Newsom, ed., Wonderful Inventions:
Motion Pictures, Broadcasting and Recorded Sound at the Library of Congress. Washington: Library of
Congress, 1985.(p. 286-309) [jpg scans]

Bond, Jeff (1997): "The Music of Classic Star Trek". (published in the magazine "Star Trek Communicator" in the mid-90ies) [jpg scans]

I got a request for it and re-uploaded it on mega, so if anybody else is interested, here's your chance! :)

Thanks for that, Soundtrekker, that was a great post. Now I can sell my Jeff Bond book on Ebay. LOL :)

On another note, seems like our "Ms. Sassee" has started her attacks again. I have done some research on her stories, and come to find out they are just that, just stories. No truth to any of them. According to local PD officers that "Scotty" had contacted, on the date in question, there was no attack on this sassee woman, they went back a whole month, and checked weeks after the story was posted. Which means that she's just a liar, trying to get attention. Then, her story about her "Husband" Kevin. No record of any marriage, or any divorce from anyone named Kevin. Using her real name, I personally checked every vital stat listing in her state, and the surrounding states and found nothing. So, I wonder what is the truth here?

So, I just wanted to post it here for all to see:


What is the truth, Susan?

You've driven off the board just about the best contributor that we've had in many years, who provided us with things that nobody had before, not on any site, and because of some attraction you had to him, then he spurned you, and then you constantly attacked him, calling him names, posting personal information about him, and got him to leave the board.

and none of the mods have done anything against her. No bans, no warnings, nothing. Many people don't even want to come to this corner of the site because of all the nastiness. Every time I commented about it, I got banned, as Jessie will possibly do about this post, even though he has no reason to, I have not mentioned anyone by name, really, nobody that anyone knows on this board or anywhere else for that matter. I really don't know what she has on the mods on this board, but they let her do anything, and say anything that she wants. She posted nudes of herself, for a day or two, and nobody said anything about it. William posted a fake Star Trek photo for an hour, and she runs off to the mods, and he gets a warning. She was so offended.

As I told Jessie, in a PM, this is just getting out of hand. She does whatever she wants and if anyone complains about it, they get banned! Do you wonder why I've been gone for about a month from this place.

And, it's not only me, but many many others.

It's getting insane over here.

It's "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test"

Time to pick this garbage post apart.


On another note, seems like our "Ms. Sassee" has started her attacks again. I have done some research on her stories, and come to find out they are just that, just stories. No truth to any of them. According to local PD officers that "Scotty" had contacted, on the date in question, there was no attack on this sassee woman, they went back a whole month, and checked weeks after the story was posted. Which means that she's just a liar, trying to get attention. Then, her story about her "Husband" Kevin. No record of any marriage, or any divorce from anyone named Kevin. Using her real name, I personally checked every vital stat listing in her state, and the surrounding states and found nothing. So, I wonder what is the truth here?

Wonder who "Ms. Sassee" could be? it's a mystery. If the police in the U.S. give out info on people so easily then it's no wonder there is an uproar lately. But what i find to be worse, if what scoregeek says to be true, is that scotty actually looked for all this info about Amanda or asked about things she had mentioned on the forum, then that's just a bit too high on the crazy boat for me. And if he got all this info about her from police buddies or what not, then clearly something just isn't right and we won't be having any of that here. It's pretty sick to go to those lengths to try and get one over on someone. And if you yourself take the time too look up her past about marriages and alleged crimes against her then you're just as bad. It's no wonder all this trouble is happening with this level of insanity.


You've driven off the board just about the best contributor that we've had in many years, who provided us with things that nobody had before, not on any site.

I'm still here, i don't recall saying i was going anywhere. So don't worry yourself.


Every time I commented about it, I got banned, as Jessie will possibly do about this post, even though he has no reason to.
I've banned you because you posted insulting messages about me and other members, even after you said you'd refrain from doing so.

Also


I have not mentioned anyone by name, really, nobody that anyone knows on this board or anywhere else for that matter

What is the truth, Susan?
We all know who it is you're talking about, please don't think we're stupid. I've quoted you above to prove your own stupidity.


She posted nudes of herself, for a day or two, and nobody said anything about it.
Awesome, they were spoiler tagged or in an NSFW thread, i believe.


William posted a fake Star Trek photo for an hour, and she runs off to the mods, and he gets a warning.
He got no warning whatsoever, i either removed the pic and stated to add a nsfw spoiler tag in threads with no NSFW tagging or i added the spoiler myself, i can't remember. I never contacted him about it and he was never given any warning.


She was so offended.
She wasn't offended, she had talked with a few members of the site and found them to be under 18, so thought the pic shouldn't be posted openly on the forum in case other minors would see it.


She does whatever she wants and if anyone complains about it, they get banned!
Who's that now? As i stated above, you were banned for insulting me and other members, Scotty was banned for the disgusting message he posted below. William has never been banned.

And if anyone is wondering why this event started it's because she said movie links couldn't be posted on the forum in a certain thread, nothing more. The reply was

I see FFShrine guard dog is barking again.
Amanda...go away!

Very rude message for someone actually protecting the forum because links to movies can actually get us in serious trouble, which is why we don't post them here.

Her reply was

why? It is an open thread to any member who wants to post here, and right now I feel comfy spending all of my time in this most interesting dry old thread. So, bite me.

A reasonable question followed by bite me, but who wouldn't tell someone to bite them or something much worse if they were insulted for stating something that's true. And then to receive a disgusting message as this

Your not welcomed here and you know it! by your words you have once again proven you are no lady in any shape or form! go and take your medication and go back into your drug induced dream world, where you are some one and others care about you!

My suggestion Gentailmen is to add this creature to your ignore list as I have done months ago.


Scott

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All one needs to do is mussel a nosy dog! if that does not work then you euthanize it.

Scott
The personal info has been removed for obvious reasons but the level of nasty in this message is pretty disgusting and not very gentlemanly at all. So if you're wondering why scotty was banned, there's your answer, should be pretty easy for sensible people to see why.

If you're too blind to actually see why these things started then i can't help you, you've wasted too much of my time already on this and i want to enjoy my Saturday evening.

I for one have no idea what's going on.

@stinkor
That is ok :D

... On another note , I am amazed how much better I like deep space nine while rewatching.
It was my least liked show of trek. Not any more.

Well, it IS amusing, anyway. Hmm. Those of you who are truly friends, outside of the site or at least via pm outside of sharing music only, I have discussed a couple of personal things with. Those folks know exactly who Susan and Kevin are, and what is up with that. Anyone I start to actually be close to, I feel obliged to give them a heads up. Some are cool with it, some freak out. It's a toss-up. Those with whom I have NOT discussed it, simply means that although we may be friendly towards each other, I do not consider us as real life friends. No offense, but there are a very few of those. I always welcome people into my world if they want.

As to where I live, It's Phoenix-ish. Phoenix is a large city but it is also a conglomerate of smaller cities. One block east or west can determine which exact city you are in. Phoenix, Glendale, Scottsdale, Fountain Hills, Sun City, etc. I would be just a tad silly to give out my exact location, wouldn't it? Not even Sorei has my physical address. If you are able to get any of that type of info from the police department, then you are a damn site better than the Feds are, since our esteemed sheriff has ignored every federal request. Or local request, or papers or....well, just good luck with that. And, if so I have a TON of money coming from my lawsuit, and seeing scotty in jail for, you know, trafficing in illegal music sharing. So, ya. Divorce records are of course a matter of public record but only work, again, if you have the correct city, and I never said I got married out here, since this is not where I grew up. But ok. Also why would I use his real name. I do not have his permission to do so. I never do so without permission. WilliamTaylor revealed to everyone in this thread he is Greg R, Stone. He signed all of his posts as such. Sooo...I am not "revealing" anything he did not already do so.

Yes, I did post nude photos of myself, in the Shoot The Shit thread when it was still called that. A long while back now. More than a year. I left them up for far more than a day or two too. I am not even a little ashamed of my body or sexuality. I am quite open about sexual things and in the past had been very flirty and full of innuendos and such. The Shoot The Shit thread was in General Discussion and not here in the downloads. It is/was labeled as a NSFW thread. In addition they were spoilered and also clearly labeled as to contents. That thread was a long term place for content much more disturbing than that. But as Jessie mentioned, I became acutely aware that several of the members I had been talking to/with were in fact minors, and that I had no idea who was or was not of age. Since that thread can be read by anyone, I deleted the photos. If you are unable to understand why I would delete nude pics to protect minors, then that is a pretty sad thing. I decided at the same time to tone down my sexually suggestive posting. I have done so to a large degree, for the same reasons. I posted to all members in this very thread that because of certain events and the presence of minors that I would appreciate if they would no longer talk to me in a similar manner. It was a reasonable request, which I feel I am entitled to. Certain members here responded in overtly hostile ways. Go figure.

I posted nothing hostile in your now closed thread. I simply said that posting of movie download links was not allowed. Nothing more than I do in anyone else's thread. I do so far less than when I first joined, but do now and then report Varese ans movie links. So what? It was a flagrant violation from long time members who know better. It was done because people in that thread somehow think they are better than anyone else and can do whatever they want, considering site rules to be offensive and censorship. Even a casual reading of that thread will enlighten folks as to the true nature of said members and I encourage anyone to do so.

No one I know who is a major contributor has ceased posting here or anywhere else on this site because of me or anything I do. I know most of them, and am friends with most. There ARE some here who got fed up with the overtly hostile environment and post rarely. They are also good friends (hey Jon!!), and others have little use for the main music downloads. If you are looking for them they are in a classic and orchestral score thread, having quite lively and intelligent conversations and sharing excellent music. The main originators and contributors of the Shoot The Shit thread, including one mod, have moved to their own blog and set up shop. I am not clear as to details, only that frequent Shrine downtime left them wanting a place to gather during it, and they sort of just stayed. ALL of them are also good friends who warmly welcome my visits. I only know members who leave or stop posting here as the members of this thread who have drunk the cool-aide so to speak.

I will not address your claims of Williamtaylor's posting in too much detail except to say this was not all "his"material and came from other sites run by members here. However, that aside, his thread was "usurped" because he did not maintain it. He left it alone and never posted reups. So Mr. Gold and others did. Gold only started a new thread for the material when William turned on him and started attacking him opnly in the forum and bullying him via PM. Gold by the way, is one of those minors I mentioned. All in all, you guys truly are a class act.

Bottom line here for me is this. Those members wishing to be friends may contact me. Those friends who wish to discuss anything personal about me are welcome to ask. Those who are just here for the music, you probably don't care anyway. Only the opinion of my friends matters to me and I am clear where I stand there. So shout all you want from the rooftops. You are making no difference to me, or my friends, or admin. You are however pissing off members who just want this to go away. IE, mostly everyone.

@amanda

You have enough on your plate as it is.
good response still.
If you can, do Something nice, my fingers are crossed for you in the next days my friend.
Remember what someone writes says a lot about the writer and Nothing about the Person he or she writes about.

Sis, I am pretty much done with this. Those who know me, well I have their support. I respect all members here (well...mostly all :)), but what most of them think of me is not important anymore. Just know, for those who are friends, it will be a scary two days for me and I am freaked, However, my ipod is stuffed with music, almost all provided from this gorgeous site, so my friends will be with me anyway. :)

I'm Thinking Of You Aswell. And Pray For Your Quick And Prompt Return.
"Nothing Can Kill A Goddess!"

Huh. I stand corrected, Admiral.

I Ment Kryptonite You Have No Kryptonite :)

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@stinkor
That is ok :D

... On another note , I am amazed how much better I like deep space nine while rewatching.
It was my least liked show of trek. Not any more.
It Took A While To Get Into DS9 I Think After Worf Joins And The War Begins It Picked Up.

It Took A While To Get Into DS9 I Think After Worf Joins And The War Begins It Picked Up.

I am weird. The second time around I liked it from the start.

Because now you can see the whole arc, like a tapestry. It all comes together eventually, and the hints of Dominion trouble are there from the near beginning. :) Plus seeing Sisko's journey to recovery is rewarding. ALL of the major characters have really, really nice arcs and growth. They most definitely are not the same by the end.

Its A Pity We Never Saw The Enterprise Characters Full Arc (Except Trip)

...you mean with T'Pols background story?

And of course getting fried. It kind of ends his story, and pissed me off. Actually a whole lot of things about the Enterprise finally really bothered me. I also was ambivilant about DS9'send. I miss Sisko and just hate that aspect, though the rest was good.

@amanda:
re: trip

well that is one thing why i like the novels....
actually, @MrGold, Enterprise cannot tell the whole trip-story.

DS9 is my favorite Star Trek spin off- I didn't get into it until the 3rd season or so. Like BAB 5 it took awhile for me to start appreciating it. as far as Scotty 57 using contacts in law enforcement to get dirt on someone. When I was working we had strict rules covering that, only "open" public records can be released without getting in trouble.

What I Ment Was The Fact The Show Got Cancelled So We Did Not Get To See All The Charcters Stories (Except Trip As He Died)

(Except Trip As He Died)

Actually he does not die.

...i would have LOVED to see the T'Pol story develop.

her genetic background

Did he die though? I thought they put him in stasis or something? And I think Sorei means that the novels address that further.

I Have Not Read Them :( (To Compilacated for Me.) Are They In Comic/Graphic Novel Form??

written novels, sorry MrGold...

i see

Have they done Enterprise comics? Sorei, do the novels further the story past the Federations formation then?

@amanda


his dying was a cover up story so he started working for section 31....for a while, none knew, not even T'Pol, but her telepathic bond then made her feel he is alive.
There even are at least 2 section 31 novels... and he is referred to in several enterprise novels after his "death" and has appearances, too.


the novels cross borders in every way, amanda :)

enterprise comics? No idea, actually. (check my trek folder on slsk)

I haven't read any of the Star Trek books/novels yet-well have to look into that. I have been busy reading Greek/Roman ancient history lately -it's not as boring as you may think.

@max
Actually it does not sound boring.

Still, I can only recommend the trek novels. Not all equally good, but they boldly go beyond the bounderies of the TV series.


(typing with cell phone keyboard is not always fun)

The following novels take place after the final episode of Star Trek Enterprise: 'These Are The Voyages...'

Last Full Measure
The Good That Men Do
Kobayashi Maru
The Romulan War: Beneath The Raptor's Wing
The Romulan War: To Brave The Storm
Rise Of The Federation: A Choice Of Futures
Rise Of The Federation: Tower Of Babel

It is highly recommended that if you chose to read them, to follow them by publication date (as I copied this list from the Memory Alpha site), as the novels that are taking place following the final Movie or Episode airing are in an order, kind of like seasons of their own.

Time to pick this garbage post apart.



Wonder who "Ms. Sassee" could be? it's a mystery. If the police in the U.S. give out info on people so easily then it's no wonder there is an uproar lately. But what i find to be worse, if what scoregeek says to be true, is that scotty actually looked for all this info about Amanda or asked about things she had mentioned on the forum, then that's just a bit too high on the crazy boat for me. And if he got all this info about her from police buddies or what not, then clearly something just isn't right and we won't be having any of that here. It's pretty sick to go to those lengths to try and get one over on someone. And if you yourself take the time too look up her past about marriages and alleged crimes against her then you're just as bad. It's no wonder all this trouble is happening with this level of insanity.



I'm still here, i don't recall saying i was going anywhere. So don't worry yourself.


I've banned you because you posted insulting messages about me and other members, even after you said you'd refrain from doing so.

Also



We all know who it is you're talking about, please don't think we're stupid. I've quoted you above to prove your own stupidity.


Awesome, they were spoiler tagged or in an NSFW thread, i believe.


He got no warning whatsoever, i either removed the pic and stated to add a nsfw spoiler tag in threads with no NSFW tagging or i added the spoiler myself, i can't remember. I never contacted him about it and he was never given any warning.


She wasn't offended, she had talked with a few members of the site and found them to be under 18, so thought the pic shouldn't be posted openly on the forum in case other minors would see it.


Who's that now? As i stated above, you were banned for insulting me and other members, Scotty was banned for the disgusting message he posted below. William has never been banned.

And if anyone is wondering why this event started it's because she said movie links couldn't be posted on the forum in a certain thread, nothing more. The reply was


Very rude message for someone actually protecting the forum because links to movies can actually get us in serious trouble, which is why we don't post them here.

Her reply was


A reasonable question followed by bite me, but who wouldn't tell someone to bite them or something much worse if they were insulted for stating something that's true. And then to receive a disgusting message as this

The personal info has been removed for obvious reasons but the level of nasty in this message is pretty disgusting and not very gentlemanly at all. So if you're wondering why scotty was banned, there's your answer, should be pretty easy for sensible people to see why.

If you're too blind to actually see why these things started then i can't help you, you've wasted too much of my time already on this and i want to enjoy my Saturday evening.

I was referring to Williamtaylor1969. I was not referring to you, Jessie. Williamtaylor, regardless of what Amanda has said, has provided much to this site, even thou she said that he had stolen everything from other sites, which is another lie that she has told. There is no proof whatsoever that he got anything from other sites. The one instance that was claimed, he provided proof of where he got the "caveman" soundtrack, and it was not from stereoelf's blog site. She has been laying on one lie after another. She was never attacked, as she claimed, there is no record, no proof to her "2 AM attack". Why would someone come on here and make such a claim, a fabrication of this sort, unless she really needs the attention? Is she that mental?

And yet, you still defend her. I would really like to know what it is that she is holding over you, to get you to act and react this way. It must be something substantial.

If, as Amanda says, this thread is so dead, why don't you just close it down, Jessie?

@scoregeek

Someone states something. You state it is a lie. You state you have Proof. (The supposed extend of your efforts is irritating to say the least, indeed, both the time you spend on this and - if that were true - the means, choice of tools that you state are available, scary and - strictly personally speaking - disgusting)
Both of you state this virtually.
Nothing makes your statement more... trustworthy than the other.
And frankly we can all call each other lier of course. Psychological studies show everybody lies every day without always noticing.

We all decide which one to believe on the basis of our on experiences. Preferences filter what we perceive or want to believe (me always included, as this goes for everybody)

***

@robncat
I was hoping you would post a list of enterprise novels, thx a lot.
I loved the 2 "Rise of the Federation" novels. Looking forward to the 3rd one.

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I Am Sick and Tired Of This Your Lieing Lets Pick on People Shit!
If You Don't Like Something Keep It To Yourself.
The Rest of Us Here Don't Want to Hear It.

If You Don't Like Someone Tough. I Am Fed Up Of People Posting On These Threads Just To Start Trouble Or Cause Pain To Others. Keep It Private Or Don't Say Anything!

ENOUGH!
That Is All I Am Saying

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This is like watching a soap opera, or Dukes Of Hazard, or Benny Hill, or CBS trying to kill the Star Trek Franchise. I threw that last one in to keep on subject of the Thread. Has anyone started a Food Fight Forum yet?
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Watch this, mouthful of egg smacking cheeks, ??, ???, I'm a zit! Get it?

@spectre:

to freshen up, i guess gagh would be a suitable food weapon?

gagh would be the ultimate food weapon, like an "A" bomb- food fight over :)

(hey Jon!!)
Hey, Sweetie.
Noticed some crazy happened while I was looking elsewhere.
All caught up now, so no need to recap.
Keep strong, and remember you can always hang out with the Shooters if you get tired of the wacky.
JonC

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I Am Sick and Tired Of This Your Lieing Lets Pick on People Shit!
If You Don't Like Something Keep It To Yourself.
The Rest of Us Here Don't Want to Hear It.

If You Don't Like Someone Tough. I Am Fed Up Of People Posting On These Threads Just To Start Trouble Or Cause Pain To Others. Keep It Private Or Don't Say Anything!

ENOUGH!
That Is All I Am Saying

http://s668.photobucket.com/user/DarkLordAneas/media/USS-Enterprise-E-2-Engaging.gif.html

Look at it this way. His sole aim is to aggravate and irritate all of the members in the thread. He is mad his friends are banned. He is mad their new thread is closed. He is mad that he cannot just prattle on about whatever and not have repercussions.

Either way it makes no difference at all to me. People have already formed opinions of us all. Nothing he says or does will change my friends' opinions. And those who I help find things for just won't care either as they are just happy to get the music. The only people who care here are his gang of friends, for whom it seems to matter. To this end he will never stop yammering. His secondary aim is to dare Jessie to ban him again and his posts will just get increasingly outrageous until that happens. I am afraid that he will just keep going. The more you address it, the louder he will respond. After all he is still hung up about who posted what from where as if anyone in the world cares. No one cares. Mr. Gold and others on the Disney thread have legions of followers with thanks and good will simply because they give the members a living thread with active links. WilliamTaylor was not banned, nor was he "driven away". He did not keep the links active and had not posted anything new. He is gone of his own choosing for whatever personal reasons. Well, he is not really driven out or gone is he? He was last active on the board on the 12th of this month so he is still logging in and reading. I suspect he is quite active via pm. But it is moot as, again, no one cares.

are there different versions of "the cage" tv episode, in terms of longer and shorter, does anyone know?

There seem to be different edits but I do not know the details off hand.

I was referring to Williamtaylor1969. I was not referring to you, Jessie.

Oh right, it just looked like you were describing me and a lot of other people here on the forum who have shared a lot more music and have been doing so for a lot longer than Williamtaylor. Most of which don't throw temper tantrums when someone re posts music they've shared.

The only other thing in your post that stands out to me is the word caveman. You are the caveman, you need to evolve passed this current state you're in and let go of these things that really don't matter. Join the rest of humanity and don't let things that shouldn't matter in the first place shackle you to your caveman state of being. Enjoy star trek music and discussing star trek, like the rest of the good folk here are doing. Don't be a Borg, trying to assimilate everyone to make them have one mind set like you, such a sad and boring existence that would be. I don't think the Borg would be very proud of you anyway, you don't seem to be doing a good job of forming a collective here, just a lot of confused and annoyed people.

are there different versions of "the cage" tv episode, in terms of longer and shorter, does anyone know?
As Amanda said: at least three different versions, as far as I know, but all have the same running time. The first official release on VHS (in 1986) had a short intro with Gene Roddenberry, filmed in the transporter room of TNG Enterprise, which was in its early production phase then. You can watch it here:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4crko7wIbpw

That first edit used the color parts available from "The Menagerie, Part 1 and 2", and addtional material in b&w, which wasn't part of "Menagerie", put together to re-create the cut as filmed in 1964 as the first pilot. At that time, the complete color version of "The Cage" was thought lost, and only a b&w 16mm version (of minor video and audio quality) was available for editing in the missing parts, resulting in that strange "hybrid" version, which nevertheless was welcomed enthusiastically by the fans then (myself included, I still have that VHS in my trek collection!).

Then only one year later, the missing color version surfaced, found in a Hollywood film laboratory, and was broadcast and released on VHS shorty after.

The third incarnation was the release of the BluRay collection, where the first pilot was treated the same way as the rest of the series: all of the old special effects were replaced with new digital effects.

I picked up all 3 seasons of Star Trek TOS and have been slowly going through them-brings back childhood memories. I don't want to go through them to fast, I could OD :)

STH Is A Common Thing.

(Star Trek High)

right now i am rewatching "space 1999", with a very loving eye.

it is not TOS anymore, but not TNG yet. And it does have a little touch of space patrol (a german tv series) in my opinion, sort of "hand made" ;)
still, martin landau and barbara bain.... :)

Yes, Space1999: always watched with a loving eye by me, as well! That show started in Germany right after the first 39 trek episodes had finished their first run (1974/75). For me, Space1999 was the legitimate successor of trek in that period of my life (I was 14), and I watched each and every episode with the same thrill and expectation as the trek shows before. That show, like trek, will always have a special place in my heart.

right now i am rewatching "space 1999", with a very loving eye.

it is not TOS anymore, but not TNG yet. And it does have a little touch of space patrol (a german tv series) in my opinion, sort of "hand made" ;)
still, martin landau and barbara bain.... :)


They were good. Right out of Mission Impossible. They should've got Lenny too. IN MY HONEST OPINION.





Yes, Space1999: always watched with a loving eye by me, as well! That show started in Germany right after the first 39 trek episodes had finished their first run (1974/75). For me, Space1999 was the legitimate successor of trek in that period of my life (I was 14), and I watched each and every episode with the same thrill and expectation as the trek shows before. That show, like trek, will always have a special place in my heart.


Ahh, the early 70s. Colour televisions and television shows from far off places, and IN COLOUR! Get out of town! Mind you, I suppose that bloke and woman in Germany made a lot of bread dubbing all those foreign shows.

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I Have Not Seen Space1999 :(

I have defeated the borg, he shall not return to disrupt our exploration of space.

Resistance Was not Feutile

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Resistance Was Indeed Feutile

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Errm, I think you got that the wrong way round, mate.

Fixed

I Have Not Seen Space1999 :(


It's Thunderbirds, but without the strings.

Interesting

I think the Borg are the most frightening bad guys, they just keep coming and don't give up.

I think the Borg are the most frightening bad guys, they just keep coming and don't give up.

Well said! kind of like that old saying "Patience is a Virtue"

Scott

Welcome back Mr. Scott. Apologies for posting "that" link which led to your thread getting closed down. And it was a bloody good thread too. Perhaps too good for those who shall remain nameless and are forever remaining on my ignore list. My post was edited by Jessie, and that should've been the end of it. Why the thread was locked and you banned is beyond me, I'm afraid. I've had far worse language thrown at me and not a peep from uncle Jessie, protector and benevolent guardian of shrine patrons.

@theone
sorry to hear that, of course Jessie can only react when being informed.


so space 1999 is like thunderbirds without stringe?
I will gather info about thunderbird....

@soundtrekker:
me too, i was thrilles with the series. I read the novels to, and i even think i had some of those magazines you can glue pictures in... :D
Commander Koenig at that point was a bit like Archer, I gather...

@sorei, that was a joke about Thunderbirds. Jerry Anderson produced both, and the sets and ships in 1999 look like Thunderbirds. Except in 1999 they used people instead of puppets. Although there was some wooden acting in 1999, I'm not going to hold it against them.

@soundtrekker:
me too, i was thrilles with the series. I read the novels to, and i even think i had some of those magazines you can glue pictures in... :D
Commander Koenig at that point was a bit like Archer, I gather...

Ah, yes, the Panini album! I still have that one, complete set of pictures collected and glued into it! Panini also did a trek album then, which I also have completely filled! :)

Yes, Koenig (Martin Landau) had a great aura, I liked him a lot. He was a good Commander and explorer, quite like Archer! I was also quite fond of Victor Bergman (the late Barry Morse, a great actor!), and the deep friendship between him and Koenig. One of the best episodes (The Black Sun) had some great dialogue between the two of them, when they encountered the black hole!

Welcome back Mr. Scott. Apologies for posting "that" link which led to your thread getting closed down. And it was a bloody good thread too. Perhaps too good for those who shall remain nameless and are forever remaining on my ignore list. My post was edited by Jessie, and that should've been the end of it. Why the thread was locked and you banned is beyond me, I'm afraid. I've had far worse language thrown at me and not a peep from uncle Jessie, protector and benevolent guardian of shrine patrons.

Thanks theone! it was a place to relax and enjoy ones friends and talk about sci-fi or what ever! something like this place used to be...now those where good times!

No Apologies are necessary my friend, I was never told why it was closed either, so we are both in the dark on that one, though knowing the powers that be it was my comment that got it shut down! I see you started a new thread as well, good for you :) In my fifteen years in Law Enforcement I have heard it all! My Dad Retired from the Navy and could make Obama blush! I'm sure he is floating around here somewhere!

I shall continue to engage my ignore list and not want to peek anymore, it does kind of defeat the purpose! but human curiosity does sometimes get in the way. Be that as it may, I will continue being here, there and everywhere, since I was reminded three days ago, that this site is a open forum for all, then all forums are open to anyone. So let it be written, so let it be done.

Scott

Maybe it's a semantics question, but I don't think of the Borg as bad guys, any more than cancer or cockroaches. The Borg is a force without will that does certain things. Those things are antithetical to most of the things WE LIKE and cherish, but I don't think of them as evil because doing Evil requires making a choice. The Borg are just automatons set on a course that crosses ours.


The hero side appears more "heroic" in the mythic way when fighting an opponent who has made conscious decisions to take power or hurt others, KNOWING that to get their villainous goals, people or things will be hurt. The Borg are more like termites or a forest fire: a terrible thing, but certainly nothing personal (on their side), because there's no person on their side.

I think the various Borg Queen or such-type tales (I didn't see all the Borg appearances in the side franchises) were an attempt to make the Borg more of an intentional threat and less of a force-of-nature threat.

Just my musings,

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

@msuperfan

again, the novels give an additional insight into borg "psyche"

I remember Unimatrix Zero and i guess that suited a purpose, relating to 'personal'.....


and in addition, we just see the borg as bad because they function in a way too different style. too little in common NOT to fear it, or not to "judge" it bad. It always depends on your point of view, an intelligent ant or bee, any being inside a collective will judge them very differently maybe.

They're fine with me as long as they let me be, if not, they'll catch hell. Individual choice takes precedence in my book, Whether you attack me consciously or not for whatever reason.

They're fine with me as long as they let me be, if not, they'll catch hell. Individual choice takes precedence in my book, Whether you attack me consciously or not for whatever reason.

Amen Brother!

We Stand Together or We Shall Surely Hang Separately!


Scott

msuperfan- That old saying that one persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter can be argued. I base my concept of good and evil on ones actions, intent and how they treat their fellow man. The Borg wish to control everyone they make contact with' taking away their freedom against their will. Just like ISIS which gives you a choice of converting or dying-I am sure they have people who support their views and justify their actions too. The problem is no one wants to make judgements about others. No side is purely good but one side is usually better than the other. I try and pick the better side.

@msuperfan

again, the novels give an additional insight into borg "psyche"

I remember Unimatrix Zero and i guess that suited a purpose, relating to 'personal'.....


and in addition, we just see the borg as bad because they function in a way too different style. too little in common NOT to fear it, or not to "judge" it bad. It always depends on your point of view, an intelligent ant or bee, any being inside a collective will judge them very differently maybe.

Or, to quote Dr McCoy in some episode or movie, "Their purpose is to SURVIVE!"

If you can tell me what he was talking about, remember the context, I'd be obliged.

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

wasn't that something with V'ger in star trek the movie?

Or, to quote Dr McCoy in some episode or movie, "Their purpose is to SURVIVE!"

If you can tell me what he was talking about, remember the context, I'd be obliged.

Mark
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DECKER (continuing; distressed, to "Ilia")
Does V'ger object to the presence of the two carbon units?

"ILIA"
The carbon units are of no consequence; V'ger will determine their purpose.

McCOY
Their purpose is to survive.

"ILIA"
That is also V'ger's purpose.

Star Trek: Enterprise Collection
Star Trek: Enterprise
July 26, 2014

La-La Land Records has announced at the Cordoba Festival in Spain that a Star Trek: Enterprise set is due for release this fall.
Any Other Info??

msuperfan- That old saying that one persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter can be argued. I base my concept of good and evil on ones actions, intent and how they treat their fellow man. The Borg wish to control everyone they make contact with' taking away their freedom against their will. Just like ISIS which gives you a choice of converting or dying-I am sure they have people who support their views and justify their actions too. The problem is no one wants to make judgements about others. No side is purely good but one side is usually better than the other. I try and pick the better side.


OR...





"What's the threat? We all sell out every day, might as well be on the winning team."

I pick freedom, baby!

DECKER (continuing; distressed, to "Ilia")
Does V'ger object to the presence of the two carbon units?

"ILIA"
The carbon units are of no consequence; V'ger will determine their purpose.

McCOY
Their purpose is to survive.

"ILIA"
That is also V'ger's purpose.






Thanks! One of those times when only half the context comes back to memory. Hmm, seems to happen more often, the more things clutter up my memory.

My brain needs a new filing system. WOW, that last sentence sounds like it should be on a T-shirt or something! Spontaneous inspiration!


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Thanks! One of those times when only half the context comes back to memory. Hmm, seems to happen more often, the more things clutter up my memory.

My brain needs a new filing system. WOW, that last sentence sounds like it should be on a T-shirt or something! Spontaneous inspiration!


Mark
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I hear the Borg do some great implants!

Joan collins is one sci-fi tourist indeed. She was starring in space 1999 too, After TOS, I had no recollection of that.

@soundtrekker
Loved the black sun episode

Joan Collins wins the Tri-fecta. She was on TOS, Space:1999, AND Mission:Impossible. No other actor or actress has done that. Honorable mentions go to Martin Landau and Barbara Bain, but they never guest starred on TOS, but worked next door on Mission.

Another T-shirt suggestion:

They say my memory loss is due to age -- I say I need to download more RAM.


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@msuperfan:
if you find a good bargain, tell me....


now i see even christopher lee starred in space 1999....
back when i watched first, i did not pay that much attention to names, apparently.

@msuperfan:
if you find a good bargain, tell me....


now i see even christopher lee starred in space 1999....
back when i watched first, i did not pay that much attention to names, apparently.

Yes, they got a few big names there. First Dracula (Lee), and then even van Helsing (Peter Cushing). But all those big names (including Joan Collins) have one thing in common: they are British actors, who became popular in Hollywood.

@soundtrekker
Right. I missed that fact.

For any who have not seen Patrick Stewart's response to the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge, here's proof that he has got the right idea...


http://www.startrek.com/article/shatner-stewart-takei-more-get-iced-for-als

*lol*

great :D thx robncat

can anyone help looking for ps2 soundtrack of Star Trek: Shattered Universe and ps1 star trek invasion,

many thanks

j

They Should Be In The Video Game Links Section

I feel I have finally come to an revelation, an understanding, and a general acceptance of certain things Trek. I type this freely and admit that while there were definite faults with the presentations, I enjoyed the two recent Star Trek films. They are nowhere near the quality of the 'Spock' trilogy of Wrath Of Khan, Search For Spock, and Voyage Home, but they are definite improvements from The Final Frontier, Insurrection, and Nemesis. For those that prefer the Trek's they grew up with, the realization that those cast members will never again meet to portray our favorite characters, is a bitter pill to swallow. I think if the purists can look at Abrams stories in a light similar to that cast by the author, Harry Turtledove, these are not our characters but who they might have been if they turned left instead of right. And for those of us that still yearn for adventures with The Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and even Enterprise, we will always have the novels. Which, while not canon, at least have not gone the way of the Star Wars novels with the recent Lucasfilm/Disney collaboration.

For me, I will enjoy each of those novels as if they were the next great episode. From the steps into a galactic entity in the Enterprise novel's "Rise of the Federation", to the intermingling of Next Generation and Deep Space Nine with the novel series "The Typhon Pact" and "The Fall", to Voyager's continuing adventures. Each of these tales is a great reminder of Trek as it was!

I also enjoyed the two new Star Trek movies, I am also waiting for a DS9 movie but know it is unlikely.

So, would this be the right place to ask whether any of the ST Blu-ray extras have turned up online/are available, in their full HD quality? Thinking particularly of the TNG/TOS extras here.

So, would this be the right place to ask whether any of the ST Blu-ray extras have turned up online/are available, in their full HD quality? Thinking particularly of the TNG/TOS extras here.

Only if it is music ;)

I also enjoyed the two new Star Trek movies, I am also waiting for a DS9 movie but know it is unlikely.

i too enjoyed the new movies.

Yes indeed, a ds9 movie would be fantastic. but i agree with calidoran and you....

Only if it is music ;)

Are you rooting for a DS9 musical, then? ;)

heh... quoted the wrong post :D error corrected and i will crawl back under my rock...

So I just finished re-watching Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home for the umpteenth time, and was struck by two lines from the film, one Bart Simpson-style moment, and one plot-hole/mistake.

First: As Kirk, McCoy, and Gillian are walking through the hospital to find Chekov, over the p.a. there is a call for 'Dr. Ben Dover'. First time I had ever heard this line. Momentary chuckle, but then wondered was it really necessary?

Second: Kirk to Gillian as she drops him off after dinner, 'Think about it, but don't take long. I'm running out of time.' I've heard this every time, but just really processed it. They went back in time. They have as much as they need as long as the Scotty and Spock's plan to fix the Dilithium Crystals worked. They could then just find a pair of whales in the wild, and return to the future.

Plot-Hole/Mistake: If Spock could design a device to collect 'high-energy photons' from a nuclear reactor, why couldn't he put together one or two transponders they could attach to George and Gracie somehow, and then, after they fixed the engines, just take off, scan, find, beam, and head back to the 23rd century?

Thoughts, comments, other observations?

@robncat:

dr. ben dover?
bend over?
what? *help* (I have no clue)

Thanks to my intrusiveness in the past, I now have the privilege to be proofing/editing Marc Cushman's THIRD volume (on Season Three, natch!) of These are the voyages: tos - Home (http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/) -- and it is really sad to learn in such detail how Roddenberry's personality -- his character, behavior, and attitude -- is what basically doomed STAR TREK. He had irritated & ticked off so many network/studio types for so long (back to The Lieutenant and before, that there was no reservoir left of good will in the Big Bosses' minds and hearts when he needed it. STAR TREK had been renewed and promised a good slot, away from the "Friday night death slot," until somebody shuffled the schedule again and Roddenberry had no more arrows in his quiver of protestations. He had been a thorn in the side of the powers-that-ran-things for SO LONG, that any waves he caused regarding the show were perceived as more irritating bad-boy behavior. Budgets were slashed while quality was expected.

We should be happy to have what we've got!

Yours in TREKdom,

Mark
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Mark, it's to bad they let personalities get in the way of keeping a good show

@robncat:

dr. ben dover?
bend over?
what? *help* (I have no clue)

Yup. I even went back and replayed the scene twice to verify I had heard correctly.

@robncat:

you got me wrong. i have no idea what the ben dover quote is related to ....who is ben dover?

@robncat:

dr. ben dover?
bend over?
what? *help* (I have no clue)

Bend over like as in anal sex

So I just finished re-watching Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home for the umpteenth time, and was struck by two lines from the film, one Bart Simpson-style moment, and one plot-hole/mistake.

First: As Kirk, McCoy, and Gillian are walking through the hospital to find Chekov, over the p.a. there is a call for 'Dr. Ben Dover'. First time I had ever heard this line. Momentary chuckle, but then wondered was it really necessary?

Second: Kirk to Gillian as she drops him off after dinner, 'Think about it, but don't take long. I'm running out of time.' I've heard this every time, but just really processed it. They went back in time. They have as much as they need as long as the Scotty and Spock's plan to fix the Dilithium Crystals worked. They could then just find a pair of whales in the wild, and return to the future.

Plot-Hole/Mistake: If Spock could design a device to collect 'high-energy photons' from a nuclear reactor, why couldn't he put together one or two transponders they could attach to George and Gracie somehow, and then, after they fixed the engines, just take off, scan, find, beam, and head back to the 23rd century?

Thoughts, comments, other observations?

Weren't you listening? DAMMIT man, he was just out of time. He's......out of.... .... ....---**time**

Bend over Sorei. Jedi, does not have to be anal, perhaps some geek actually got lucky and was "just" doin' it doggy style? They'd better make it a quickie, though, apparently, time's a commodity....

oh ok then, it was just "bend over" and dr. dover is not anyone i should know :D
(I actually thought there was more to it...)
thx jedi and amanda

@robncact: out of time : he is not being in his own time

I feel I have finally come to an revelation, an understanding, and a general acceptance of certain things Trek. I type this freely and admit that while there were definite faults with the presentations, I enjoyed the two recent Star Trek films. They are nowhere near the quality of the 'Spock' trilogy of Wrath Of Khan, Search For Spock, and Voyage Home, but they are definite improvements from The Final Frontier, Insurrection, and Nemesis. For those that prefer the Trek's they grew up with, the realization that those cast members will never again meet to portray our favorite characters, is a bitter pill to swallow. I think if the purists can look at Abrams stories in a light similar to that cast by the author, Harry Turtledove, these are not our characters but who they might have been if they turned left instead of right. And for those of us that still yearn for adventures with The Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and even Enterprise, we will always have the novels. Which, while not canon, at least have not gone the way of the Star Wars novels with the recent Lucasfilm/Disney collaboration.

For me, I will enjoy each of those novels as if they were the next great episode. From the steps into a galactic entity in the Enterprise novel's "Rise of the Federation", to the intermingling of Next Generation and Deep Space Nine with the novel series "The Typhon Pact" and "The Fall", to Voyager's continuing adventures. Each of these tales is a great reminder of Trek as it was!



JJ Abrams has pooped in the punch bowl. Twice. Two turds afloat in what was a good punch. I won't be having any. No, sir.

JJ Abrams has pooped in the punch bowl. Twice. Two turds afloat in what was a good punch. I won't be having any. No, sir.

I thought it was drink the Kool-Aid, not drink the punch?


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I always thought they would somehow have a TNG & ds9 combined movie but when they announced the new Star Trek movies I knew it would never happen. I wonder if they are working on a new TV series?

I always thought they would somehow have a TNG & ds9 combined movie but when they announced the new Star Trek movies I knew it would never happen. I wounder if they are working on a new TV series?

Possibly...

New Trek Series? Forget Netflix, Think Showtime | 1701News (http://1701news.com/node/639/new-trek-series-forget-netflix-think-showtime.html)

Here Is Hoping ;)

Possibly...

New Trek Series? Forget Netflix, Think Showtime | 1701News (http://1701news.com/node/639/new-trek-series-forget-netflix-think-showtime.html)

Interesting idea! but if they stay with JJ alternate universe it would die on the vine.

Scott

Just saw a blip on Facebook yesterday about Kirk kissing Spock in the new movie???? W T F??? Anybody know anything about this?

Greg

Just saw a blip on Facebook yesterday about Kirk kissing Spock in the new movie???? W T F??? Anybody know anything about this?

Greg

It must be a re-make of "Turnabout Intruder" crossed with "Amok Time"! Let's call it STAR TREK: All in the Family! (or maybe not ....)

PS Visit my two blogs often in October! The Super Blog will be having a post-a-day for Blog-o-Ween of silly, spooky fun; over at the Record Round-Up, "Spooky Spocktober" will have two posts a week of Halloween releases (including a new music compilation)!

Stay in touch,


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JJ Abrams has pooped in the punch bowl. Twice. Two turds afloat in what was a good punch. I won't be having any. No, sir.

The Final Frontier... I recommend listening to Shatner's audio commentary (Blu Ray?), there were lotsa obstacles from the studio regarding the core of his story and production values. And it isn't your usual boastful Shatner talking here, he is very humble. I got real new appreciation for the movie and like it much better now than before.

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I always thought they would somehow have a TNG & ds9 combined movie but when they announced the new Star Trek movies I knew it would never happen. I wonder if they are working on a new TV series?

The problem with the TNG movies was having television writers writing them. You can't approach a movie like an 2 part episode.

The Final Frontier... I recommend listening to Shatner's audio commentary (Blu Ray?), there were lotsa obstacles from the studio regarding the core of his story and production values. And it isn't your usual boastful Shatner talking here, he is very humble. I got real new appreciation for the movie and like it much better now than before.

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The problem with the TNG movies was having television writers writing them. You can't approach a movie like an 2 part episode.
On the other hand, there are many examples of 2 part episodes (even one-parter) of today's television which is much better than many movies, past and present! It always depends on the writing team! I woulnd't exclude good television writers from writing movies, just because they are tv writers.

I watched Star Trek the Motion Picture last night in the dark on my new 60 inch flat screen TV. Always like the beginning with the star field and then the Klingon welcoming committee. I saw the movie in Germany when it 1st came out. Great start but was a little flat overall. Kinda like a cheap french wine. I still like to watch it but most of the other Star Trek movies are better.

When STTMP first came out, Ralph and I went EVERY NIGHT to see it on the big screen, and sat WAY up front to be able to get the whole 2:35 experience. Many times, Ralph was feeling so comfortable, like he was living the movie, that he fell asleep about half way thru!!!! That's not to say that the film was so boring, that was just Ralph!! Hehehehehehe :D

I never got tired of seeing it that way, but Ralph and I only went ONCE to see WOK, because he was crying so hard when Spock died, that he could not see it again until it was out on VHS! But I went many times. Such a shame that the whole TREK experience had to come to an end with the death of Gene! :(

Greg

Do you have all of the expanded editions of the soundtracks? TIA

I had the same experience with Star Trek Generations when Captain Kirk was killed- I liked the movie but it took some time before I wanted to watch it again. Even now I only watch it maybe once a year.

[QUOTE=olafolaf;2767851]The Final Frontier... I recommend listening to Shatner's audio commentary (Blu Ray?), there were lotsa obstacles from the studio regarding the core of his story and production values. And it isn't your usual boastful Shatner talking here, he is very humble. I got real new appreciation for the movie and like it much better now than before.[COLOR="Silver"]

Sorry for formatting .. I was going to say that I seem to have the odd ability to take things at face value or think the best of them or people. I try to think of STAR TREK V as some goofy situation that the characters were stuck with and had to survive somehow (like 9th-grade Phys Ed). I really liked a lot of the character touches for the Big Three, although Uhura stripping and Scott conking his head were too much for me.

Keep on feeling that pain, buddy!

PS you can read my article about STAR TREK V that was published in the paperback The Best of Trek #16 here: Mark's Super Blog: About Star Trek V ... (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/about-star-trek-v.html)


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Do you have all of the expanded editions of the soundtracks? TIA

You can find nearly all official star trek releases, including the expanded editions, on Spectre8750's great trek thread:
http:// Thread 162444

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[QUOTE=olafolaf;2767851]The Final Frontier... I recommend listening to Shatner's audio commentary (Blu Ray?), there were lotsa obstacles from the studio regarding the core of his story and production values. And it isn't your usual boastful Shatner talking here, he is very humble. I got real new appreciation for the movie and like it much better now than before.[COLOR="Silver"]

Sorry for formatting .. I was going to say that I seem to have the odd ability to take things at face value or think the best of them or people. I try to think of STAR TREK V as some goofy situation that the characters were stuck with and had to survive somehow (like 9th-grade Phys Ed). I really liked a lot of the character touches for the Big Three, although Uhura stripping and Scott conking his head were too much for me.

Keep on feeling that pain, buddy!

PS you can read my article about STAR TREK V that was published in the paperback The Best of Trek #16 here: Mark's Super Blog: About Star Trek V ... (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/about-star-trek-v.html)


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Ah, the good old Best oft Trek paperback series! Liked it a lot, bought them all, and they are still part of my trek collection. Back then, they had been a source for me to get informed about what other fans in the U.S. were thinking about all things trek, in a time when there was no internet. I liked the diversity of essays, reviews, technical articles, philosophical musings, and all kinds of looking at trek from different perspectives and viewpoints. Gave me great pleasure!

Anyone have full blooper reels from TNG bluray sets?

Anyone have full blooper reels from TNG bluray sets?

Yes, and some of them are hilarious, I can assure you! :)

Watched Star Trek Wrath of Khan last night, I think I will watch one Star Trek movie a night until I have watch all of them. Wrath of Khan is one of my favorites. When I first saw the movie I was very sad when Spock died and wondered how they could make another movie without him. He would have left a big hole in the cast but then at the end it became evident that Spock would return.

Watched Star Trek Wrath of Khan last night, I think I will watch one Star Trek movie a night until I have watch all of them. Wrath of Khan is one of my favorites. When I first saw the movie I was very sad when Spock died and wondered how they could make another movie without him. He would have left a big hole in the cast but then at the end it became evident that Spock would return.

Me, too. I watched it on Sci-Fi (or whatever name they're using this week). Once again I was struck by the spot-on music, staging, characters. I still think the guy who plays David Marcus isn't very good, and the guy playing "Joachin" (spelling? Khan's lap-boy) is likewise not acted believably. Overall, fun to watch, including boo-boos like the duct-tape over the elevator markings on the bridge, and the infamous moving bloody handprint.

I kept imagining TV-era Kirk doing the STII actions, and most of the time I could picture it. No matter how often I watch it, the ending beginning with the Genesis Wave buildup is terrifically affecting to me.

Thanks reminding me of the memories!

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Watched Star Trek Wrath of Khan last night, I think I will watch one Star Trek movie a night until I have watch all of them. Wrath of Khan is one of my favorites. When I first saw the movie I was very sad when Spock died and wondered how they could make another movie without him. He would have left a big hole in the cast but then at the end it became evident that Spock would return.

And for a few million dollars more, he could direct the next one :)

It broke my heart when Spock died! I could not see another movie after wok either! that too was disheartening (and just what the studio wanted) and low and behold Star Trek III came out and Paramount made billions! and the rest as they say is history. :)


Scott

No matter how often I watch it, the ending beginning with the Genesis Wave buildup is terrifically affecting to me.[/url]

Man, the movie was practically over, i mean, i was satisfied already and then they pull that amazing thing out of their hat, Khan activating the Genesis device I mean, to have his victory after - I mean, when did movie gain such momentum in it's final minutes so surprisingly - that was genius!

I agree it made for a powerful ending

I agree it made for a powerful ending

It did in deed! I still get chocked up watching the Star Trek III, when Sarek comes to talk to Kirk and does the mind meld and then you hear Spock "I have been and always shell be your friend" with Kirk saying ever so softly "No"

Scott

It did in deed! I still get chocked up watching the Star Trek III, when Sarek comes to talk to Kirk and does the mind meld and then you hear Spock "I have been and always shell be your friend" with Kirk saying ever so softly "No"

Scott

I must admit, they did a very good job of dubbing Nimoy's voice to almost match Sarek or McCoy. I could almost imagine that somehow they merged the two voices together!

Back to STAR TREK II, here Mark's Super Blog: I Got Paid! (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-got-paid.html) is the Super Blog post containing my article printed in Best of Trek #6. It concerned the various controversies about killing of Spock in STII. NOW IT CAN BE TOLD: This paperback was published before STIII came out. I believe that this is why the editors CHANGED my deathless prose.

You see, my original last few lines said that I would not be surprised, as an avid STAR TREK fan, if STAR TREK III opened with Spock's coffin standing open on the Genesis planet and a line of footprints leading away from it. Rather a good guess, don't you think?

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I must admit, they did a very good job of dubbing Nimoy's voice to almost match Sarek or McCoy. I could almost imagine that somehow they merged the two voices together!

Back to STAR TREK II, here Mark's Super Blog: I Got Paid! (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-got-paid.html) is the Super Blog post containing my article printed in Best of Trek #6. It concerned the various controversies about killing of Spock in STII. NOW IT CAN BE TOLD: This paperback was published before STIII came out. I believe that this is why the editors CHANGED my deathless prose.

You see, my original last few lines said that I would not be surprised, as an avid STAR TREK fan, if STAR TREK III opened with Spock's coffin standing open on the Genesis planet and a line of footprints leading away from it. Rather a good guess, don't you think?

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Well done Mark! and very good articular to read. It would appear Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy both read your articular too :)


Scott

Well done Mark! and very good articular to read. It would appear Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy both read your articular too :)


Scott

Well, I would like to flatter myself about that, but no doubt whatever plans they had were already underway ...

This kind of thing is also why nowadays (for several decades now), TV shows don't accept unsolicited stories. All they need is to broadcast a boffo show and then some nerdy fan says, "They stole my idea! I sent in that idea to them two years ago!" And the studios generally state in their cover letter that they are returning your proposal "unread" so as to forfend against this.

Now, off to work and (in between) proofread some more of Cushman's These Are the Voyages (http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/) Volume 3 ... good night!

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Watched Star Trek The search for Spock last night, I remember the 1st time watching it and feeling great that Spock was back but then Kirk had to destroy the Enterprise. I remember it brought a tear to my eye like the lost of an old friend. I thought it was the end of the series-how could you have Star Trek without the Enterprise? My wife held my hand and said it will be alright :)

I Just finished watching all the movies myself. Did anyone see Of Gods and Men? I rather liked it. It was good to see the whose who of Star Trek playing in it.

Watched Star Trek The search for Spock last night, I remember the 1st time watching it and feeling great that Spock was back but then Kirk had to destroy the Enterprise. I remember it brought a tear to my eye like the lost of an old friend. I thought it was the end of the series-how could you have Star Trek without the Enterprise? My wife held my hand and said it will be alright :)

Yeah it broke my heart too! thou my ex-wife did not hold my hand when we saw the movie! now that I think about it, I should have held her neck very tightly LOL j/k in the end it was alright and the crew continued there adventure with another Starship called Enterprise! To quote my log "I think this "new" ship was put together by monkeys. Oh, she's got a fine engine, but half the doors won't open, and guess whose job it is to make it right?" The blasted thing took me a year to fix! "I may be captain by rank... but I never wanted to be anything else but an engineer" so I got nothing to complain about! who would listen anyway. :)


Scott

Speaking of starships .... I just finished going through a chapter in the upcoming Volume Three of Cushman's TOS books concerning TREK merchandising, including the paperback The Making of STAR TREK. Anybody else remember it?

I was in my neighborhood Git'n'Go and saw it on the paperback spin rack. I was thrilled to see a REAL BOOK about "my" show!

Among many interesting things (like the "green blood on the razor blade" incident) I learned that the original "final" design for the Enterprise was identical to what we see onscreen, except UPSIDE DOWN, with the saucer and nacelles below and the secondary hull up top.

Man, does that look wacky! Mr Scott, I know there's no gravity in space, but that looks just WRONG!

PS HOORAY! I got an image in there!

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I Just finished watching all the movies myself. Did anyone see Of Gods and Men? I rather liked it. It was good to see the whose who of Star Trek playing in it.

I saw it several months ago and was impressed with the acting and story line, they all did a wonderful job considering this is from a on-line fan based web site, with not a whole lot of money, but with a very big heart.

Scott

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Speaking of starships .... I just finished going through a chapter in the upcoming Volume Three of Cushman's TOS books concerning TREK merchandising, including the paperback The Making of STAR TREK. Anybody else remember it?

I was in my neighborhood Git'n'Go and saw it on the paperback spin rack. I was thrilled to see a REAL BOOK about "my" show!

Among many interesting things (like the "green blood on the razor blade" incident) I learned that the original "final" design for the Enterprise was identical to what we see onscreen, except UPSIDE DOWN, with the saucer and nacelles below and the secondary hull up top.

Man, does that look wacky! Mr Scott, I know there's no gravity in space, but that looks just WRONG!

PS HOORAY! I got an image in there!

Mark
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Some of Matt Jefferies original drawings did show the Enterprise in reverse hull order, of course Gene Roddenberry had the final say, and ask Matt to continue with his drawing, and asked Matt to turn the hulls around, but you can read about it in "Star Trek: The Original Series Sketchbook" A large part of Jefferies' original design sketches was sold off on 12 December 2001! or you can do the google search, there are tons of photos on the net to look at.

Aye it does! the Great Bird of the Galaxy had to turn things around and the rest is history :)

Scott

Watched Star Trek the Voyage Home last night- I think it is the funniest and most lighthearted of the Star Trek movies

being away on a working weekend i caught up with some episodes of season 6 ds9 again.
and i was totally surprised as i did not remember nick tate being there in one colm-meaney-episode, whom i well remember from the just recently watched space 1999 playing shuttle pilot alan carter.
:D

@max: re ST Voyage Home, agreed.

Watched ST III on SyFy last light, commercials and all. Boy, talk about a soap opera! But all golden, baby. Christopher Lloyd out-cheeses Shatner! And James Horner's score is just perfect ... "Stealing the Enterprise" is dang near perfect-plus.

A very TREK-ky fight on the planet, widescreen knowing-it's-overdramatic all the way. Man, the Enterprise turning into an eraser smear in Genesis' sky ... the twitch in Kirk's eye as he says "destruct ... zero," the second fade-in as they beam away so they can get a farewell glimpse in the transporter room ... "I have had---enough---of YOU!" and the poetic scales-balancing of David's death balancing the corners he cut.

For a STAR TREK story, really well done. Even if that Vulcan broad at the end was SO ANNOYING! Famous actress or not ... (the scantily clad Vulcan teeny-bopper girls on each side made up for that.)

End of Rant!


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I remember seeing it in theater, but the Enterprise blowing up was no surprise and no big. The commercials running on the TV in advance all featured the disc exploding, so when the scene in film finally arrived, it was no surprise and had limited dramatic impact. :(

Finished up watching the star trek movies wish they had made more before the new series

yes that would have been real nice....

i have finally finished ds9.
:D

next stop, voyager....
(but stargate sg1 is waiting too)

I watched DS9 earlier this year, I think it was the best Star Trek spin off after TNG

so is a download link of the LLL release of Star Trek the Motion Picture still out there?

I watched DS9 earlier this year, I think it was the best Star Trek spin off after TNG

Can you explain why? I love watching Star Trek, but you know DS9 has never appealed to me. I'm seriously curious what it is that attracts people so much to DS9.

Can you explain why? I love watching Star Trek, but you know DS9 has never appealed to me. I'm seriously curious what it is that attracts people so much to DS9.

i am honestly starting to wonder 2 things:
if maybe you need to be able to like a bit of dark and if maybe you need to be a bit older to like it ;)

I am wondering because when I watched it first i was younger. and i appreciated neither of the 2.
i love the development of characters, for example, as they develop in themselves and in relation to others.

Now, I love the Vic Fontaine thing for example. The episode of Nog moving into the holoprogram to heal was really great.

We have a broader variety of not-only-good-characters, Winn Kai, Garak, Gul Dukat, even Quark, others that do not repeatedly appear, and it the series is more cynical than the others, of course.
There always is the air of melancholy around, sometimes even depression and the admittance of defeat.
Picard somehow managed to avoid having to deal with it to the extend, DS9 has to.

I have always liked ds9 for the war and the other stories.

@ sorei
That episode with vic is excellent aswell as the one where the rob the casino lol.

I have always liked ds9 for the war and the other stories.

@ sorei
That episode with vic is excellent aswell as the one where the rob the casino lol.

the DS9 eleven :D
YES!

I love the casino one when they walk past quark's and he is like "here we go again"

The Way of the Warrior is one of my favorite on DS9!

The Way of the Warrior is one of my favorite on DS9!

S4 Episode 1+2 Worf's First Episode It Is An Excellent One Nice Choice

so is a download link of the LLL release of Star Trek the Motion Picture still out there?

Here you can find almost all official releases for star trek, including STTMP (LaLaLand):

Thread 162444

(Go to the first message - you have to scroll down a little bit to find what you are looking for, though. You'll find the OST from STTMP, and later on, the expanded one from LaLaLand...)

TNG was more like OST where almost every episode was a separate story with a beginning and an ending, DS9 seemed to be one long story with almost every episode having something happen that would latter connect it with another episode.

Yes True But Some TNG Episodes Continued On Ie 2 Parts But Of Course Conspiracy Never Continued.

TNG had some good 2 and 3 part episodes like the ones dealing with the Borg and Klingons that I really enjoyed, DS9 just seemed to flow more like one story with fewer branches going off in different directions. I also thought the last episode of DS9 was outstanding. TNG had the movies to finish up the story line. Would have been cool to have a DS9 movie.

I only sort of liked DS9 when I watched it the first time. Second time I can't even get through it there are so many terrible episodes. It doesn't help that I dislike a lot of the main characters (Kira is almost unwatchable for me).

A lot of the later (6th-7th season) TNG is like that too, when they started to focus on Troi's relationships. Ugh.

I didn't like DS9 at first, it wasn't until the 3rd season that I began to enjoy it. Kira- did look good in those tight uniforms :)

Until seven of nine in voyager ;)

Full Episode of "The Fugitive" with William Shatner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTAy6PY6C-U

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I only sort of liked DS9 when I watched it the first time. Second time I can't even get through it there are so many terrible episodes. It doesn't help that I dislike a lot of the main characters (Kira is almost unwatchable for me).

A lot of the later (6th-7th season) TNG is like that too, when they started to focus on Troi's relationships. Ugh.

DS9's first season has only a few good episodes, you can skip most of them.

olafolaf, I totally agree, season two had a few more, season 3 got interesting and I was hooked, like Babylon 5 the 1st season or two were not that interesting then the shadows showed up and I was hooked.

The first season of DS9, aside from the first 10 minutes of the pilot (The Battle of Wolf 359), was lame. It wasn't until the 2nd season where Sisko was kidnapped and the USS Odyessy was destroyed by the Jem Hadar that it started to get good. Then of course they introduced the Defiant, the bad ass of Starfleet. From then on I was hooked. Probably my favorite episode was "The Die is Cast" where the Romulan and Cardassian special forces are lured into a trap by the Founders and get decimated piecemeal. The Defiant came in to rescue Odo and Garak, and really showed her stuff. To this day, when I think of the military aspect of Starfleet, I don't see any of the Enterprises or the Excelsior, I see the Defiant.

cdc01a, your right about the 1st season. Defiant made it exciting and the Jem Hadar where like the Borg- real bad-bad guys which makes it even better. The Die is Cast is also one of my favorite episodes. In fact that was the 2 part episode that got me really hooked. Garak was interesting, you never knew if he was going to be bad or good.

...i like the "drama" aspects of the trek series as well, in terms of: development of characters, relationships, that part does not bore me at all.
In fact I prefer it to battle scenes. (Which does niot at all mean I cannot enjoy good action)

Now, that might be a "female/male thingy", it only means, I do not find any season of ds9 dull :D

To me the must see episodes of ds9's first season are Past Prologue, Duet and In the Hands of the Prophets and perhaps The Nagus. Season Two it's The Collaborator (exceptional!), Tribunal, Whispers (really love this one), Cardassians, Rules of Acquisition, Sanctuary. Season Three it's Second Skin, Destiny, Shakaar, Civil Defense, Through the Looking Glass and starting season four it's really tough to pick favorites, because they are almost all really great.
One more thing that I find remarkable is, if this show didn't have a title sequence, you wouldn't know, Weyon, Garak, Gul Dukat, Rom (!!!), Damar are secondary characters and all the actors really seemed to relish their roles. I didn't really buy into the Dr. Bashir twist but it added a few nice stories and they missed a great opportunity making Jake into a real character. Imagine he didn't confess in Nor The Battle The Strong having been a coward, he had had to carry something on his shoulders that would made him grow. The writer/reporter angle to me never was very interesting or believable, Nog becoming an engineer was more believable even.

For me with ds9 the only episode to stand out of s1 was qless not just for jihn dlancie but it showed sisko to be a stronger more hands on person than picard (of course he was only commander then) for when he punches Q
"You hit me. Picard never hit"
Which is what first drew my attention. Until s3+4 with the more battle sequences coming forward.

...i like the "drama" aspects of the trek series as well, in terms of: development of characters, relationships, that part does not bore me at all.
In fact I prefer it to battle scenes. (Which does niot at all mean I cannot enjoy good action)

Now, that might be a "female/male thingy", it only means, I do not find any season of ds9 dull :D

There's alot of good drama on DS9, much more than Voyager or even TOS in my opinion. Probably my favorite example is "In the Pale Moon Light." That's the episode where Garak and Sisko conspire to draw the Romulans into the Dominion war. There were no battle scenes, hardly any exterior or CGI, and just one bout of fisticuffs involving Sisko. The whole episode revolved around Sisko's moral dilemma of being the honorable Starfleet officer who didn't want to get his hands dirty, or entering into subversive plots to win the war by any means neccessary because the Federation / Klingon alliance was losing badly. In the end Sisko is busted by the Romulan ambassador for trying to fake him out, but before he can get a message back to Romulus his ship is destroyed by a bomb that Garak planted as a contingency. But the best part is that after all is said and done and his goal achieved, Sisko says "he would do it all over again." I don't think Picard or Janeway would ever get off their moral high horse, even in the face of the Federation being conquered.

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To me the must see episodes of ds9's first season are Past Prologue, Duet and In the Hands of the Prophets and perhaps The Nagus. Season Two it's The Collaborator (exceptional!), Tribunal, Whispers (really love this one), Cardassians, Rules of Acquisition, Sanctuary. Season Three it's Second Skin, Destiny, Shakaar, Civil Defense, Through the Looking Glass and starting season four it's really tough to pick favorites, because they are almost all really great.
One more thing that I find remarkable is, if this show didn't have a title sequence, you wouldn't know, Weyon, Garak, Gul Dukat, Rom (!!!), Damar are secondary characters and all the actors really seemed to relish their roles. I didn't really buy into the Dr. Bashir twist but it added a few nice stories and they missed a great opportunity making Jake into a real character. Imagine he didn't confess in Nor The Battle The Strong having been a coward, he had had to carry something on his shoulders that would made him grow. The writer/reporter angle to me never was very interesting or believable, Nog becoming an engineer was more believable even.

Damar was one of my favorite later characters. At first he was just Dukat's lackey, but you could tell he knew that Dukat had made a deal with the devil and that all of Cardassia was along for the ride. He became an alcoholic when he came to grips that Weyoun, and his replacements, would probably be his boss for the rest of his life once the Dominion won the war. An example is Worf and Dax being interrogated and Worf gets so mad that he kills Weyoun. Damar sees it, takes a sip of his drink, and in a casual tone says "They'll just make another one. You should have killed me. There's only one Damar." Damar later orchestrated a massive rebellion of loyal Cardassians against their Dominion occupiers, which bought the Allies time to regroup after the Breen joined the Dominion and blew the Allied task force right out of space at Chin'toka. That scene actually made me cry because it was the death of the original NX Defiant.

Speaking of DS9, I want to stray al little bit. If anyone is interested I found some DS9 mugs. I bought 2 myself. Here is the website.

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Speaking of DS9, I want to stray al little bit. If anyone is interested I found some DS9 mugs. I bought 2 myself. Here is the website.

Highwave ? Hotjo (http://highwave.bigcartel.com/product/hotjo)

I couldn't see any with DS9 images on them ?.

Unless you are saying that they were featured in an episode ?.