Yes, but it is a very NICE thread, with all sorts of linky thingys and blinking lights and sound effects.... Hehehehehehehe :)


Enjoy, William

Yes, but it is a very NICE thread, with all sorts of linky thingys and blinking lights and sound effects.... Hehehehehehehe :)


Enjoy, William

... just like Star Trek TOS used to be, way back in the 60ies, right? Ah, those times...

In case anybody cares: I'm on a two-week hiatus in the Q continuum... my parents have summoned me for a rapport! What have I done wrong this time???? I don't WANT to go... NO, this isn't FAIR!!!!! I was just PLAYING, Mom...



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo.............

Later Omni-Dude, come back soon, you're gonna miss out on the Tellarite Pork Rinds! they're scrumshes! There's even some B-B-Q flavored ones! and assorted flavored colored squares! Look a green ball! I'll bet it's a cheese ball, ooh no, don't eat that! there's facilities for doing that you know!

... just like Star Trek TOS used to be, way back in the 60ies, right? Ah, those times...

In case anybody cares: I'm on a two-week hiatus in the Q continuum... my parents have summoned me for a rapport! What have I done wrong this time???? I don't WANT to go... NO, this isn't FAIR!!!!! I was just PLAYING, Mom...





NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo.............


Maybe it ain't for being bad, so, I hope you enjoy yourself. I hope to hear some wondrous tales!

If anyone has the STAR TREK DEEP SPACE NINE THE COLLECTION complete Artwork Scans i would appreciate it. I want to include them in the upload of THE COLLECTION. Please. donation's anyone?

clean house is a good idea except that the massive corporate interest groups and lobbyists would simply buy and fund whoever took their places. you want to see a real change, you gotta chop the heads off these corporation-ey corporate tools

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sorry, I just can't resist, in light of some of the crap I'm reading in here.



Pro-war?....i guess the part that doesn't believe in allowing the Earth to get its ass kicked.
capitalist?..i suppose the part that believes in progress not dependence.
pro-life?.....do i really have to answer that one? i'm assuming you don't mean the freedom to abort idiots, because everyone knows which isle the higher I.Q.'s are not on. you know, like Hank Johnson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA) who believes the threat that Guam could flip over from too many people on one end of the Island!
anti-women?...you're confused with whom actually passed the Civil Rights Bills.
religious?...uh what??? are You saying that the Federation doesn't allow religion?
homophobic?...what the heck are you trying to say here? are the republicans at fault for not passing some lame un-needed bill? are the gays being descriminated against somehow by only republicans? many republicans are GAY!!!!!!!!!
racist?...again you're confused with whom actually passed the Civil Rights Bills. and the democratic presidents that were in office are on record as opposing the bills, signed them so as not to look racist or biggeted, but got credit for the bills when the conservitives wrote the Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments! i suppose you think Frederick Douglas, Jackie Robinson, Harriet Tubman, George Washington Carver, Sojourner Truth, Mary McLeod Bethune and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. were democrats!
pro-war?...you have this twice? is it because Obummer is backing the WAR for the GLOBALIST like the little puppet he and all the rest of them are!!!
anti-healthcare?...do you really believe republicans are anti-healthcare??? well i remember a day when healthcare was affordible, not anymore! especially now the governments' running it!!! our's went up almost a hundred dollars a month so far! our income is below 28,000 a year GROSS!!!!!! we can't even make it payday to payday anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
illegal aliens????????...uh heh, you really believe that anyone has the RIGHT to WALTZ RIGHT or LEFT into any country and act as if they have a right to anything they WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't recall what built in incentive in Star Trek many seem to think is there! Are you saying that if we lived in a Star Trek World created by COMMUNIST which is what a progressive IS that there would be no LAZY asses anymore???? That Star Trek has overcome LAZY ASSES???? because without abortion i'm not seeing that, or maybe you're for gene manipulation to decide the future?

So now we gather that Man needs not strive anymore, that'll all be taken care of BY THE LEFT???????? maybe if we can get 200 more Hank Johnsons in office we'll finally have a Star Trek World, but don't stand in the same area or walk in the same direction, we may cause the earth to spin in the wrong direction or fly out of orbit. OR are WE beginning to see the REAL problem here? what's really holding man from moving foward. People are so gullible they believe whatever they hear from thier side, like Global Warming, over population, terrorist everywhere, even Evolution. I'll believe it when i see the proof, and analize the hell out of it, not just take anybodies word for it. I've witnessed so many lies and desceptions in every part of the world, and back through history, and we are not headed into a Utopian Future as they want you to believe. I've listened to Globalist's family members speak of the commen people as usless feeders, goyim, cattle, beast, and that it's that time of the year to thin the herd (refering to pandimic threats and giving flu shots) that make more sick and die than the actual flu itself. Genetically owning all life with patents (passed by the Supreme Court). Destroying the natural food supply and hording natural seeds for themselves, spraying to kill all natural plant life. If people do not see that there's a detachment among the Real Rich on this planet, i mean the trillionaire families running this planet whom now own over half of the planet literally and are taking the rest. Who want it all for themselves, to have all wealth, power, eternal health, travel, freedom for themselves and YOU as a slave! STAR TREK IS FOR THEM NOT YOU attitude!. And the Popes trying to set up a One World Religion! (already Law but not inforced yet). It looks to me and others that this little reprieve from the Dark Ages is over, and we're all falling down the slide of bickering and argueing over petty crap, racism, biggetry, ideals while our governments are accesseries to selling our liberties to these people who care nothing about what happens to us in the end. Reminds me of that last Book in the Bible. BUT We are many and they are not, and that's what scares the hell out of them, i've heard it from their lips. Let's stop doing what they want and get our country back (and around the world), our liberties that are guaranteed in the Constitution and Bill Of Rights that our Government thinks we can do without. That Obama say'd was a hindrance to what the goverment can do to us. STAND UP FOR YOUR SELVES and STOP THIS MADNESS THEY ARE CONTROLLING! I'm all for a STAR TREK WORLD, if i saw it coming, but i don't.

sorry, had to get that off my frontal lobe.

I think you need to see Dr. McCoy, before you have a nervous breakdown, or at least step outside and smell the fresh air....sorry, I forgot we were still on the Starship. I almost forgot, Scotty has some stuff, that will give you too much shore leave, or so I heard.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

too many exclamations and question marks? i feel fine especially after that load off. i would feel worse when not warning my friends of pending danger. hey you can lead a horse and all that. ahh, no dance tonight!

Sure you feel better now, but, PLEASE remember to turn the vent fan on in the bathroom next time! The green cloud from your load sent many of red shirts to their death!

... just like Star Trek TOS used to be, way back in the 60ies, right? Ah, those times...

In case anybody cares: I'm on a two-week hiatus in the Q continuum... my parents have summoned me for a rapport! What have I done wrong this time???? I don't WANT to go... NO, this isn't FAIR!!!!! I was just PLAYING, Mom...



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo.............

Have a wonderful restful time my friend :)

Sccott

Sure you feel better now, but, PLEASE remember to turn the vent fan on in the bathroom next time! The green cloud from your load sent many of red shirts to their death!

They're expendable, in fact all are expendable. remember the needs of the many outway the needs of the few, or the one. it's called democracy. we don't need a constitution that protects the individual anymore. This is the new Star Trek World we live in. 51% of us are going to vote what to do with your earnings and property, it's only fare right?, the needs of the many. Laws are being passed to allow those without to take from those who don't, haven't you ever been to Africa? other countries too. soon i'll be able to move in with you guys and no one will be able to do anything legal about it. they're just not enforcing it yet. you think i'm full of it don't you? hehe just can't wait for the future, it's gonna be so Star Trekky. BTW i have a grey shirt on, does that mean i'll be neutralized? ok, i put a blue shirt on, i'm good to go. Hey i'm not poking at anyone at all, it's just the way it is coming down the transporter beam (road).

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Also if i really lived in the Star Trek, what was it Odo said?
"Interesting, isn't it? The Federation claims to abhor Section 31's tactics, but when they need the dirty work done, they look the other way. It's a tidy little arrangement, wouldn't you say?"
- in 2375

What's behind the green door?
lighten up, i'm just playin around, it's a slow day. And i hope you all had a good weekend. being around at all for the weekend is actually good.

Well, NOW you done it, you violated the Prime Directive! Or was it....I could be wrong.....just be lucky you DONE wear a red shirt! Just wait until the Squire gets back!

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I can't wait. he's good with psychokinesis, telokinesis, it'll be a party!

Party on dude!

I cannot believe that Soundtrekker took off on a two week vacation, and didn't invite ME!!! I always wanted to visit the continuum! :)

Oh, well. In the meantime, you can find more links here:

Thread 141164

and here:

Thread 123182


Enjoy, William

Does ANYONE have current WORKING links for the ST:TNG Ron Jones Project?

Much appreciated and thank you!

There is a link on the first page that will lead you to what you're seeking, vayne.

I cannot believe that Soundtrekker took off on a two week vacation, and didn't invite ME!!! I always wanted to visit the continuum! :)

Oh, well. In the meantime, you can find more links here:

Thread 141164

and here:

Thread 123182


Enjoy, William

The last time we saw the continuum they were having a civil war and before that every one was sitting around some old gas station! sounds boring as all get out! I'll pass, and head out to Wrigley's Pleasure Planet aka Risa!! can't forget my Horga'hn :)

Scott

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I can't wait. he's good with psychokinesis, telokinesis, it'll be a party!



yes, psychokinesis, psychosis....oh. um...errr....wait, was that something different? :p

Does ANYONE have current WORKING links for the ST:TNG Ron Jones Project?

Much appreciated and thank you!


Yes.

But, FSM cannot be posted on the open forum.

The last time we saw the continuum they were having a civil war and before that every one was sitting around some old gas station! sounds boring as all get out! I'll pass, and head out to Wrigley's Pleasure Planet aka Risa!! can't forget my Horga'hn :)

Scott

Yes, but you only PERCEIVED that as a gas station, to the members of the continuum, it appeared MUCH differently, in wavelenght vibrations that mortal humans cannot even comprehend! :)

William

So we can fuel up our El Crappyton electric Hybrid cars that cost a ton to get fixed, but Trelane will fix free of charge, because it's always like Christmas now.

Yes, but you only PERCEIVED that as a gas station, to the members of the continuum, it appeared MUCH differently, in wavelenght vibrations that mortal humans cannot even comprehend! :)

William

I know some will love the vibration part, but I'll still go for the real thing I can see and touch ;)

Scott

Is there something in the food, water, air, that I am not getting to make me feel like I'm in the continuum? I don't want to be a Herbert!

A warm chocolate browny with vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup over it. helps me feel i can continue. you can add tribble nuts if you like.

Tribble nuts? Are they like Mountain Oysters?

See, THIS is why I stay away....

Huh... just saw on Pirate Bay an ad for Star Trek Continues Kickstarter.
Remind me, why don't the Continues people fund it alone? Are they making it purely to make money out of it?

Yes.

See, THIS is why I stay away....

I'm sorry.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/tears8.gif.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/smack-1.gif if you want.:(

Tribble nuts? Are they like Mountain Oysters?

No, they're the de-hydrated crunchy ones, gotta have the crunchy nutts. You know they have a thousand uses (Tribbles). I still think the idea of taking the babies, gutting, and dying them pink or other bright colours, and sticking them on the end of a No. 2 pencil eraser with fake eyes was pure genius.

Spectre8750! Now you done it...it is all your fault! I now can't get the theme to The Prisoner out of my head!:)

"A, B & C - No 6 Arrives At Dreamy Party"

This one would be cool to have stuck in your head, even while dreaming. This is all a dream anyway - Walk over to the mirror, grab and straighten the Room.

Now, this thread has gone TOTALLY Gross!!! EEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!!


William

It is almost Halloween, and modern horror movies are GROSS, so we are just fitting in. Next weekend, back to NoRmAl...

What is normal anyway???? :)


William

What is normal anyway???? :)


William

About 6 inches ?.

What is normal anyway???? :)


William

Hummm....I think the question is WHO is normal. I know of one, he was a brain in a jar named AB Normal.

About 6 inches ?.

LOL!

Much prefer the foot long....from Subway of course.

GOD, where are your minds at, all the time, guys? And you wonder why Amanda and Sorei never visit here anymore!


Harumpf!

William

My mind I lost long time ago, and when I went looking for it, I stepped on it, SO, I found it and lost it forever in one small step.

GOD, where are your minds at, all the time, guys? And you wonder why Amanda and Sorei never visit here anymore!


Harumpf!

William

Harumpf!

GOD, where are your minds at, all the time, guys? And you wonder why Amanda and Sorei never visit here anymore!


Harumpf!

William

For my self, fighting the Borg and protecting the Federation with resolving the violation of the Temporal Directive is too much.

But good new, I find the way to acquire Nova Bomb to end the Borg threat, only problem, there are store in the black hole of Hephaistos.

Long live the Commonwealth

Ive just watched young frankenstein .. I can help you with your hump ...... What hump?? heheheh

For my self, fighting the Borg and protecting the Federation with resolving the violation of the Temporal Directive is too much.

But good new, I find the way to acquire Nova Bomb to end the Borg threat, only problem, there are store in the black hole of Hephaistos.

Long live the Commonwealth

I didn't hear a Harumpf outa that Guy! You better watch your Ass!

I imagined a rumor that Star Trek 2009 is going to be redone to give it a story.

GOD, where are your minds at, all the time, guys? And you wonder why Amanda and Sorei never visit here anymore!


Harumpf!

William

In the gutter! so move out of the way and let my mind go through ;)

Scott

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I didn't hear a Harumpf outa that Guy! You better watch your Ass!

"Give the Governor a Harumpf! Gentlemen, please rest your sphincters."

Scott

MY GOD, now you're quoting BLAZING SADDLES!!!! Whatever happened to Monty Python??? Hehehehehehe :)

(wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?)

William

MY GOD, now you're quoting BLAZING SADDLES!!!! Whatever happened to Monty Python??? Hehehehehehe :)

(wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?)

William

Large Man with Dead Body: "Who's that then?

The Dead Collector: I dunno, must be a king.

Large Man with Dead Body: Why?

The Dead Collector: He hasn't got shit all over him". ;)

Scott

I'm getting ready for the annual visit of my Great, Great,....Uncle for Halloween. Here is a picture of him.

I'm getting ready for the annual visit of my Great, Great,....Uncle for Halloween. Here is a picture of him.



Good old Uncle Barnabas!!


Scott

But how did he show in the picture with any reflection?!! Although his clothes should. And i can tell that's pre 1999 because he where's an old Tennis Cap like Raoul Duke.
Never takes it off, even for pictures. And it has a Silly Straw stuck in it.

For my self, fighting the Borg and protecting the Federation with resolving the violation of the Temporal Directive is too much.

But good new, I find the way to acquire Nova Bomb to end the Borg threat, only problem, there are store in the black hole of Hephaistos.

Long live the Commonwealth

Ok, I have not been gentle since I use many references to Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda. But, some breakthrough (http://andromeda.wikia.com/wiki/Nova_bomb) of the Commonwealth will be interesting on Starfleet design.

So this might work for assuring a balanced budget amendment? I don't know, i'm still skeptical! Would make a great cigarette lighter, looks like it might fit in a '69 Chevy Nova lighter socket.

Ok, I have not been gentle since I use many references to Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda. But, some breakthrough (http://andromeda.wikia.com/wiki/Nova_bomb) of the Commonwealth will be interesting on Starfleet design.

Kind of looks like a 21st Century Fat Man! minus the stabilizing fins.

I do believe The Federation now has "Trilithium" which is an inhibitor of nuclear reactions, such as the fusion processes within the interior of stars. Even a small amount of Trilithium is sufficient to halt all nuclear fusion in a star, resulting in a quantum implosion. The star would collapse under its own mass, generating a shock wave powerful enough to destroy everything in its system. If the star was of sufficient size, the core collapse could lead to a supernova. A "Nova Bomb" destabilizes a star's gravity, With no gravity, the hydrogen gas which was undergoing fusion disperses in all directions, exploding and destroying everything in its path. Either way, both will suck the paint right off your house and give you an orange afro for a thousand years!

Spectre, Love your groovy dreamy party music...


Scott

Reading a Tech Journal again, Mr. Scott? You do blow my mind with your technical talk, "Either way, both will suck the paint right off your house and give you an orange afro for a thousand years!"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif


We have talked about a new Star Trek series, and I found this article.
Star Trek Could Return To The Small Screen | Giant Freakin Robot (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-trek-return-small-screen.html)

Reading a Tech Journal again, Mr. Scott? You do blow my mind with your technical talk, "Either way, both will suck the paint right off your house and give you an orange afro for a thousand years!"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif


We have talked about a new Star Trek series, and I found this article.
Star Trek Could Return To The Small Screen | Giant Freakin Robot (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-trek-return-small-screen.html)

I think it's inevitable... eventually. But I also think it could be a looooong time before it happens. And if Orci's involved it'll more than likely take place in the new movie timeline. But I think Star Trek, ultimately, works better on TV.

Star Trek's dead (again)

So no one can go back and stop the destruction of the Sun that caused Romulus to be destroyed? or maybe destroy other systems to wipeout the JJ Universe all together? Somebody's gonna have to go back and get a shit load of bombs! What will that Asshole think of next!!!

So no one can go back and stop the destruction of the Sun that caused Romulus to be destroyed? or maybe destroy other systems to wipeout the JJ Universe all together? Somebody's gonna have to go back and get a shit load of bombs! What will that Asshole think of next!!!

A remake of Star Trek V?

So no one can go back and stop the destruction of the Sun that caused Romulus to be destroyed? or maybe destroy other systems to wipeout the JJ Universe all together? Somebody's gonna have to go back and get a shit load of bombs! What will that Asshole think of next!!!

Check this YouTube video out Star Trek Phase II answer to JJ Trek - Timeline Restored - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo) someone fixed the time line :)


Scott

Check this YouTube video out Star Trek Phase II answer to JJ Trek - Timeline Restored - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo) someone fixed the time line :)


Scott

Now that's using your brain! Resistance is not futile! Star Trek V? i'm sure JJ will do that one too, but even more humorous.

Prisoner - "6" be seeing you

NOW that is the way to fix the problem!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo.gif

Mr.Scott, you reputation as a miracle worker is untouchable!

Reading a Tech Journal again, Mr. Scott? You do blow my mind with your technical talk, "Either way, both will suck the paint right off your house and give you an orange afro for a thousand years!"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif


We have talked about a new Star Trek series, and I found this article.
Star Trek Could Return To The Small Screen | Giant Freakin Robot (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-trek-return-small-screen.html)

Aye! I can get technical at times :)

I don't know if Paramount will ever bring Trek back to the small screen again! they weigh the cost of production with the profit the studio will make. We all would love to see it on TV again, but you really have to have one hell of a production team to put so many hours into what it takes to get one hour (more like 40 minutes, after all the commercials are removed) on the small screen, and Paramount already lost there shorts in starting UPN! The only way I see it is for Paramount to allow CBS to do the show (they already have all the experience in Television Production) and Paramount needs to stay with just making major motion pictures. The Paramount Studio was never suited to make television shows and ties up way to much space on the lot that could be used for full length films, unless the studio bought (if there even still there anymore) "Studio City Television Productions" or maybe the old MGM lot and use that for television production or do what Brad Wright and Jonathan Glassner did with Stargate SG-1! go to The Bridge Studios in Burnaby, British Columbia, it sure would be cheaper to film there then in LA. The next question would be where do you start this new show? 23rd Century? 24th or later? they already have covered 22nd, 23rd, and 24th Century's! so it looks like the 25th Century is left or later on! If they do bring Trek back I would stay way from any of the old production team members (producers and writers) and start fresh! Just my opinion...

Scott

Check this YouTube video out Star Trek Phase II answer to JJ Trek - Timeline Restored - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo) someone fixed the time line :)


Scott

I hate to piss on this, but here's what that guy said:


If you look at the making-of for this video (link in the description), you will discover it is not JJ, but the ugly ship design which this film is aimed at.

James and JJ are friends and James even has a cameo in the first JJ movie.

As a fan-film production, we are not allowed to put our series on TV and we distribute it, free of charge, on the internet.

JJ did revitalize Star Trek and that is a good thing, even if we differ on how he did it.

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So no one can go back and stop the destruction of the Sun that caused Romulus to be destroyed? or maybe destroy other systems to wipeout the JJ Universe all together? Somebody's gonna have to go back and get a shit load of bombs! What will that Asshole think of next!!!

Why would they do that? It would cause their own reality to cease existing. The Prime universe still exists. It's as they said in the first of the new films: it's an alternate reality, not an amended reality.

I think it's funny how people dump on the director when he's not the one writing the scripts. It's not like George Lucas, for crying out loud.

MY GOD, now you're quoting BLAZING SADDLES!!!! Whatever happened to Monty Python??? Hehehehehehe :)

(wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?)

William

A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind bat. SAY NO MORE!

So no one can go back and stop the destruction of the Sun that caused Romulus to be destroyed? or maybe destroy other systems to wipeout the JJ Universe all together? Somebody's gonna have to go back and get a shit load of bombs! What will that Asshole think of next!!!



Why would they do that? It would cause their own reality to cease existing. The Prime universe still exists. It's as they said in the first of the new films: it's an alternate reality, not an amended reality.

I think it's funny how people dump on the director when he's not the one writing the scripts. It's not like George Lucas, for crying out loud.

Cool, so we still have the Prime universe to look forward to. And hey maybe the two will battle it out and does that mean one of them is the Dark Universe or do we have three now?

Also in the Video, the Box says ACME Time Repair.

I hate to piss on this..... No you don't! You just had to bring reality into it, and I just wanted to enjoy the moment! You are EVIL!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

You know how Marvel has the original universe and the Ultimates universe...? (Let's not go there with DC continuity which has been rejigged a billion times)... The original MU exists alongside the Ultimates one just fine. And then the movie universe exists alongside those.

There's absolutely no reason why a TV show couldn't go back to the Prime universe of Star Trek - it just takes the imagination of the caretakers to allow it. You could set it in the very late 24th century or early 25th without massively contradicting what's gone before (no pun intended) and make it very palatable to a modern TV audience. (ST has contradicted itself over time, anyway. Lotta continuity there to keep track of.)

What I mean is, there's no reason why the movie and TV franchises couldn't each keep on their merry way without necessarily overlapping - the JJverse and the original, Prime universe. All it needs is some far-sighted Viacom executive (STOP LAUGHING!) to let it happen. And that way, both CBS and Paramount could keep their individual cash cows - sorry, franchises - and audiences of either/both would be happy. Seems a very obvious solution to me.

And only if Rick Berman is involved. He knows Star Trek.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

No you don't! You just had to bring reality into it, and I just wanted to enjoy the moment! You are EVIL!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Yes, yes I am... :rofldata:


Cool, so we still have the Prime universe to look forward to. And hey maybe the two will battle it out and does that mean one of them is the Dark Universe or do we have three now?

Yes, it's technically still there, unaltered. Think of it like drawing a vertical line than drawing another line from a single dot on that line. It means if they wanted they could continue on from any point from any of the previous iterations of Star Trek. Personally, I'd like a proper farewell to the TNG cast and it'd be cool to see the Enterprise-E in a TV show.


Also in the Video, the Box says ACME Time Repair.

Meep meep.

Yeah whatever happened to Star Trek Titan? with Frakes and Sirtis. Did Frake get to fat? Seriously, i was hoping to see another show on T.V.



Also in the Video, the Box says ACME Time Repair.

I have to go by the Nick AZSneed now? I don't think that would be appropiate. There's to much confusion already.

CONFUSION! Wait until you see the JJAbrams Star Wars movie. Darth Data and the Star Destroyer Enterprise attacks the newly populated Tribble home world where the Ewoks now live and ruled by Jar Jar Binks. Music by James Horner, who lifts his score from STII and throws in a couple of times the Star Wars theme, so you will know it is supposed to be a Star Wars movie.

Well at least they dropped the Tim Burton, Danny Elfman idea after smoken all day on 4/20 day. though that's not sounding to bad after the new timeline came about. Or maybe it's just this smoke i just had! Woah! i just figured out what their real plan is in all this multi Timeline stuff! Ahh!!! i just lost it! wait, no, oh wait! no, nevermind, it just coalesced into visions of everyone sitting around with hotdogs on the end of sticks singing beer songs and little kids screaming about marshmellows burning.

Well, Gang, I just finished watching "Judgement at Nuremberg", which co-stars William Shatner, and it is really obvious that he's wearing a toupee! The point of the front of his hair is WAY too far down on his forehead, and I noticed from scene to scene, that distance changes slightly, but you can notice it! So, he has been wearing a hairpiece for much longer than originally thought!

Just a F.Y.I.

William

Well, Gang, I just finished watching "Judgement at Nuremberg", which co-stars William Shatner, and it is really obvious that he's wearing a toupee! The point of the front of his hair is WAY too far down on his forehead, and I noticed from scene to scene, that distance changes slightly, but you can notice it! So, he has been wearing a hairpiece for much longer than originally thought!

Just a F.Y.I.

William

I've been reading These Are The Voyages, that new book on the making of TOS season 1 and it mentions Bill's toupee in that! It goes THAT far back!

Dear William, if you really do have a Titanic 9 disc session set, please give it to him so we can all have peace from the demon hound that is Lord Fuckingham.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/titanic-music-recording-sessions-discussion-thread-110325/30.html

Dear William, if you really do have a Titanic 9 disc session set, please give it to him so we can all have peace from the demon hound that is Lord Fuckingham.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/titanic-music-recording-sessions-discussion-thread-110325/30.html

Just ignore him. He's insignificant.

Reading a Tech Journal again, Mr. Scott? You do blow my mind with your technical talk, "Either way, both will suck the paint right off your house and give you an orange afro for a thousand years!"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif


We have talked about a new Star Trek series, and I found this article.
Star Trek Could Return To The Small Screen | Giant Freakin Robot (http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/star-trek-return-small-screen.html)

Fantastic. Perhaps this will coincide with me landing a job in a writers room... in THAT one! :)

Well, Gang, I just finished watching "Judgement at Nuremberg", which co-stars William Shatner, and it is really obvious that he's wearing a toupee! The point of the front of his hair is WAY too far down on his forehead, and I noticed from scene to scene, that distance changes slightly, but you can notice it! So, he has been wearing a hairpiece for much longer than originally thought!

Just a F.Y.I.

William

Why don't he just yank that Tribble off his head? What is he hiding that we haven't seen? Then again.... if he did.....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/WarnANA.gif....I'M BLINDED!

Since Walter walks around all the time now without his hairpiece, I think that Shatner should do the same! Or does he have a female's name tattoo'd on his skull that he's trying to hide?

Hehehehehehe :)

William

I think he had KHAN!!! tattood after a bad night of reviews and heavy drinking. But i don't think he's remembered that it's there. It was discovered during satellite surveillance.

My thought too, was a tattoo on his skinned head...THE PLANE, THE PLANE!:)



Well, I gave in and bought the remastered 2nd season of the TOS set today. I am understandably curious on how the new effects look in the contents of a full episode. In the spirit of Halloween tonight, I will be watching first, CATSPAW.

Someone like Shat can't do without his merkin. ;)

I heard a rumor while working on STTNG, that he pays ONE THOUSAND dollars a week to have hairpieces made for him, adjusted and fitted! One of the makeup girls had told me that, saying that he hired one of her friends, who only does wigs and beards for the industry. That's alot of cash to be dishing out every week. But, back in 1966, he was pulling down 33,000 per episode for the original series!!!!! Can you imagine making that kind of money, when houses sold in LA for around 9-10,000 dollars? A REGULAR house, not some big Beverly Hills mansion. Now they are going for between 250-400,000 dollars. What an investment that could have been. :)

William

For sure William. So i guess in the mid late 70's when he was running around in a truck and camper trailer it was just for fun and not because he was out of money? or was he? because of all he spent on the hair pieces and was using a trailer to hall them around in?

I heard a rumor while working on STTNG, that he pays ONE THOUSAND dollars a week to have hairpieces made for him, adjusted and fitted! One of the makeup girls had told me that, saying that he hired one of her friends, who only does wigs and beards for the industry. That's alot of cash to be dishing out every week. But, back in 1966, he was pulling down 33,000 per episode for the original series!!!!! Can you imagine making that kind of money, when houses sold in LA for around 9-10,000 dollars? A REGULAR house, not some big Beverly Hills mansion. Now they are going for between 250-400,000 dollars. What an investment that could have been. :)

William

A lot of the old Hollywood actors invested in land in and around the L.A. area and came away multi-millionaires! Charlie Chaplin, Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford, and D. W. Griffith started United Artists, Guy Williams retired to Argentina, raised thoroughbred horse's, and a lot invested into ocean property, like Malibu, or land that was used to grow orange's at one time...hence Orange County or Bob Hope investing into Palm Springs!

If only we had a time machine and a few hundred thousand dollars! we could be Billionaires by now!!! Vanity! thy name is Hollywood. The Shat needs the head rugs to keep him looking good, as the Great Yogurt Once Said : Who knows? God willing, we'll all meet again in Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money!

Scott

$1,000? Is that in US or Hollywood $$?

A buck is a buck, no matter how you look at it. You KNOW he was not trading for sexual favors, as FAT and OLD as he is, hehehehehehe :)


William

Okay....I never cared for the cover to the Ron Jones Project. I created this one for my own use and decided to share it. I can not take credit for the basic design. This is actually a modification of an image that someone created as an alternate cover for tBoBW. Credit goes to that creator (whomever it is...I don't know). Sorry for the remote link but for some reason the forums won't let me upload an image. :(

Thanks Alaska!

Thanks Alaska!

You're welcome. I have so little to contribute around here I have to make do with whatever I can.

I've been reading These Are The Voyages, that new book on the making of TOS season 1 and it mentions Bill's toupee in that! It goes THAT far back!

So what?

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I think it's inevitable... eventually. But I also think it could be a looooong time before it happens. And if Orci's involved it'll more than likely take place in the new movie timeline. But I think Star Trek, ultimately, works better on TV.

Ain't gonna work since they're negotiating JJ Trek the TV series.

I really LOVE that cover! The background, with the dark gray design, reminds me of one of the walls on the STTNG sets.

Thanks, Alaska.

William

Thanks,Alaska for the cover! It is way cool!


While watching the remastered TOS, I noticed the the main theme is different. Is is the new recorded version? If so, I don't like it. One of my favorite episodes from season 2 is The Doomsday Machine, and the new effects are awesome (I never thought I would like it), and watching it, was like seeing the episode for the first time. I was on the edge of my seat during the battle scenes.

I like most of the remastered effects, the CG Enterprise always bugs me, too grey and flat.

not to mention that the shuttlecraft is about 32 feet long, instead of the original 18 and barely fits in the shuttle bay hanger!

William

Thats not a bad effect though, thats a scaling issue.

The scale to the Doomsday Machine is better, and yes, the Shuttlecraft Okuda does look wrong scale.

The scale to the Doomsday Machine is better, and yes, the Shuttlecraft Okuda does look wrong scale.
Of course, there were similar issues with physical models. In STIII:TSFS the Klingon ship scaled to about three or four different sizes in various scenes.

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I really LOVE that cover! The background, with the dark gray design, reminds me of one of the walls on the STTNG sets.

Thanks, Alaska.

William
Thanks, but as I say, I only modified an image I found. Credit goes to the original creator of the image I hijacked, whomever that may be.

Thanks,Alaska for the cover! It is way cool!


While watching the remastered TOS, I noticed the the main theme is different. Is is the new recorded version? If so, I don't like it. One of my favorite episodes from season 2 is The Doomsday Machine, and the new effects are awesome (I never thought I would like it), and watching it, was like seeing the episode for the first time. I was on the edge of my seat during the battle scenes.

Yes it's the Stereo Re-recording, and the effects help pull the series into more excepted limits of today's standards. The Enterprise CGI was in keeping of the original look. I don't think they wanted it to look like the say NX-1 texturing, but I thought they should have textured it like the refit. It would have been in keeping with the original concept, I think.

Sure the newer effect in the re-mastered might bring in new viewers/fans, but, why not change the end credits FX shots? Leaving the old FX shots, makes one wonder what is going on, where we know, why they look like they do.

I disagree with with having assteching like on the re-fit. The original look should not have been altered. Everyone that works on the TOS ships, from the re-mastered, DS9 and Enterprise, wanted to update the TOS ships, to fit in with the later shows from STTMP on up. Why? What was done is history, and should be accepted as such. For me, the TOS 1701 should look like in TOS, period! And, the mutilation of the 11 foot model in the Smithsonian, is the worst crime. Sure, more details would look better, but, is not needed, it is just wanted.

I think the original look is fine too, i don't think they should change the model in the Smithsonian, most definitely not. That's like rewriting history.

awesome! thanks a lot

Sure the newer effect in the re-mastered might bring in new viewers/fans, but, why not change the end credits FX shots? Leaving the old FX shots, makes one wonder what is going on, where we know, why they look like they do.

I disagree with with having assteching like on the re-fit. The original look should not have been altered. Everyone that works on the TOS ships, from the re-mastered, DS9 and Enterprise, wanted to update the TOS ships, to fit in with the later shows from STTMP on up. Why? What was done is history, and should be accepted as such. For me, the TOS 1701 should look like in TOS, period! And, the mutilation of the 11 foot model in the Smithsonian, is the worst crime. Sure, more details would look better, but, is not needed, it is just wanted.
Maybe if it had been more subtle than TMP... so you caught glimpses of it in close-up shots but that medium and long shots it wasn't apparent.

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I think the original look is fine too, i don't think they should change the model in the Smithsonian, most definitely not. That's like rewriting history.
Well....maybe....did they ever fix the butcher job the one guy did on it, with all the heavy grid lines? THAT should be fixed.

The first Starship Enterprise hangs in the National Air and Space Museum’s gift shop. It is 11-feet long.

“But is it 134-inches long or 135-inches long?” Star Trek fans would ask space history curator Margaret Weitekamp. For years, the precise measurement was a raging debate on Trekkie Web forums. The fans needed the exact length of the 11-deck ship so they could be sure their own models were at scale with the original. Finally, Weitekamp broke out the measuring tape.

Matt Jefferies designed the Smithsonian’s Enterprise model on behalf of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry for the failed 1966-1969 television series. Through Star Trek’s various reincarnations for film, television and video games, every Starship Enterprise featured has been some variation on the saucer and cigar shapes of Jefferies’ design. To fans, the original model is considered a “material touchstone of the Trek canon,” Weitekamp says. “It’s a living cultural object.”

The model arrived at the Air and Space Museum in 1974. It came in a box, disassembled and dirty. To the curators, it was nothing more than a prop from a canceled television show that was a nice example of what human space flight might look like. They restored the model and hung it up for display.

As the Trekiverse grew, along with the number of fans, the Smithsonian’s Enterprise became a popular stop in the Air and Space Museum. Weitekamp gets regular complaints from fans and collectors about how the Air and Space Museum displays the the model. They offer money and manpower for what they consider to be a better restoration. She always turns them down. “It’s not broken,” she says.

However, for those that do ask about the model’s length, she has the number cold: 135-inches long.

Taken from an Article

Well....maybe....did they ever fix the butcher job the one guy did on it, with all the heavy grid lines? THAT should be fixed.

They were asked if they were going to do another restore before the 50th Anniversary in 2016, and they said NO. If I remember right, there was no chance until the next decade.

Looks like a Baby Blue Mobile hanging over a Baby Crib. Or maybe it's just moldy.

Algae. It was left in the water too long.

Algae. It was left in the water too long.

Maybe mold, having been left in the back of the 'fridge for too long.

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Okay gang, as I just posted over on Spectre's TREK links site, I had been working over the weekend on the TOS sound effects, and included a FOURTH CD, with new cover art, and new CD labels, all very nifty! I'm working on the STTMP movie sound effects by Alan Howarth as well, with new art. I will be posting them here soon!

William

Where's the SFX CDs, William? Did you post them here yet?

I think she still looks good after all these years

But, she is using too much makeup.:)

The SIX CD set (4 TOS, 1 STTMP, 1 STTNG) are done, and I uploaded three of them on Friday at "Mirrorcreator", but I had forgot to login before I did that, so I have no idea where those blasted files went to! So, I will begin tomorrow, when I have more time, and redo the uploads, after I remember to sign into my account. :)

Regarding that photo of the Enterprise 11 footer, that was the HORRIBLE revamp work that was done by "Ed Miarecki" from Springfield Mass. Now, I had known Ed for a LONG time, and I know that there is nothing that ever comes into his hands that he doesn't duplicate, and give back a COPY! He has sold many "original" models, some of which later proved out to be copies! Really nicely done copies, but not the original screen used item! Makes you wonder about this beauty, huh? Ed was not allowed to take the model out of the Smithsonian, so he had requested a compromise:

Since he had apparently already rented a nearby building for the repair work, and had gone to such expense, etc. he was allowed by the Smithsonian to remove just ONE piece at a time, starting with both of the nacelles! After a couple of weeks, he brought back the nacelles, and showed how beautiful they looked, and then they allowed him to remove the primary hull (saucer) section. After another couple of weeks, he returned that as well, and took the secondary hull, and brought it back after another two weeks. Then he reassembled all the sections and helped to display his finished work. One observer was shocked to see that Ed and his crew had totally sanded down the PORT side of the model, puttied up the hole where the original wires went in, and also had painted and detailed that other side. Eric (that was his name) told me that when he ran his hand over the port side of the secondary hull, he could not feel anywhere there might have been an original hole, and he asked Ed about it. Ed became very pissed off, and demanded to know who he was!!(?) He told Ed who he was and since he was a Trek fan, and a professional model man himself, he wanted to know how Ed and his crew had preformed such a feat! Ed just brushed off this question by saying that he does good work, and that was why the Smithsonian had gotten him for this refurb job, since it was a most important model. This was the first clue that something was amiss with this model. I would LOVE to have someone pull that model apart, and check the inside of the saucer to see if it IS the original piece.

Until then, we can only guess......

There was a refurbishment done after the Miarecki screwup, but I found out that they did not take the model apart, and were not allowed to remove the model, but had to do all their work on site! This was done at the insistence of my friend Eric, who would not allow this to happen again, but if he will follow his hunch, and have the model inspected in the future, is only my fondest wish

Okay, checking for a nice photo of the Big-E port side, I found this photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cta34573458/6060130484/

As you can see, it is glass smooth on that side, and there is a square placed there, for no good reason. You can see the work of Miarecki on the saucer, so it was taken before the last refurb, however, Eric said that there was detailing done to that side, and I see none! I don't know if he had referred to that square as detailing, I thought that he meant that there was painted detailing, and nice decals on that side. Could have been my misunderstanding of what he said. Either way, it really looks like a completely NEW secondary hull, as opposed to the original. But then I don't like Miarecki at all, so you can judge for yourself.


William

Well....maybe....did they ever fix the butcher job the one guy did on it, with all the heavy grid lines? THAT should be fixed.

Yes... it's terrible... I saw it a couple of years ago and it's not sympathetic to how it appeared on TV at all. Terrible botch job, IMHO.

The SIX CD set (4 TOS, 1 STTMP, 1 STTNG) are done, and I uploaded three of them on Friday at "Mirrorcreator", but I had forgot to login before I did that, so I have no idea where those blasted files went to! So, I will begin tomorrow, when I have more time, and redo the uploads, after I remember to sign into my account. :)

Regarding that photo of the Enterprise 11 footer, that was the HORRIBLE revamp work that was done by "Ed Miarecki" from Springfield Mass. Now, I had known Ed for a LONG time, and I know that there is nothing that ever comes into his hands that he doesn't duplicate, and give back a COPY! He has sold many "original" models, some of which later proved out to be copies! Really nicely done copies, but not the original screen used item! Makes you wonder about this beauty, huh? Ed was not allowed to take the model out of the Smithsonian, so he had requested a compromise:

Since he had apparently already rented a nearby building for the repair work, and had gone to such expense, etc. he was allowed by the Smithsonian to remove just ONE piece at a time, starting with both of the nacelles! After a couple of weeks, he brought back the nacelles, and showed how beautiful they looked, and then they allowed him to remove the primary hull (saucer) section. After another couple of weeks, he returned that as well, and took the secondary hull, and brought it back after another two weeks. Then he reassembled all the sections and helped to display his finished work. One observer was shocked to see that Ed and his crew had totally sanded down the PORT side of the model, puttied up the hole where the original wires went in, and also had painted and detailed that other side. Eric (that was his name) told me that when he ran his hand over the port side of the secondary hull, he could not feel anywhere there might have been an original hole, and he asked Ed about it. Ed became very pissed off, and demanded to know who he was!!(?) He told Ed who he was and since he was a Trek fan, and a professional model man himself, he wanted to know how Ed and his crew had preformed such a feat! Ed just brushed off this question by saying that he does good work, and that was why the Smithsonian had gotten him for this refurb job, since it was a most important model. This was the first clue that something was amiss with this model. I would LOVE to have someone pull that model apart, and check the inside of the saucer to see if it IS the original piece.

Until then, we can only guess......

There was a refurbishment done after the Miarecki screwup, but I found out that they did not take the model apart, and were not allowed to remove the model, but had to do all their work on site! This was done at the insistence of my friend Eric, who would not allow this to happen again, but if he will follow his hunch, and have the model inspected in the future, is only my fondest wish

Okay, checking for a nice photo of the Big-E port side, I found this photo:

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 filming model | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cta34573458/6060130484/)

As you can see, it is glass smooth on that side, and there is a square placed there, for no good reason. You can see the work of Miarecki on the saucer, so it was taken before the last refurb, however, Eric said that there was detailing done to that side, and I see none! I don't know if he had referred to that square as detailing, I thought that he meant that there was painted detailing, and nice decals on that side. Could have been my misunderstanding of what he said. Either way, it really looks like a completely NEW secondary hull, as opposed to the original. But then I don't like Miarecki at all, so you can judge for yourself.


William

As I understand it, the port side was never shown because of the power cable that ran down the port side dorsal (feeding power to the main saucer section, along with power for the lights on the starboard dorsal) down into the secondary hull (and providing power to that part) where the power cable was ran out of a hole (where the model was supported from, just behind the deflector dish) to a power box. Amanda was kind enough to provide b/w and color pictures of what the model looked like when it was being un-packed at the Smithsonian (this was a year ago I believe) the front caps of the warp engines where missing and most of the internal workings are damaged, in short the model was just a mess! One of the pictures shows the main saucer section (from underneath), and the port and starboard sides looks like someone took a bit out of both sides (maybe dropped? or damaged by shipping?) what ever happened it just about made me cry! the worse part was the addition of grid lines, which if you look at the model pictures, as it is being un-packed there are no grid lines! top or bottom (other then three rings around the planetary senor dome). Some of the pictures also show individual images of each part before (whoever he is) started restoration work! it appears he completely sanded, replaced windows, primered and repainted the whole model (since it is made out of wood). The original color appears to be a light gray, not a sickly green and there is no rust belt around the top of the saucer. It's kind of funny, Howard Anderson built the model with a additional hole on the rear impulse engine housing [in the middle] (which is where it was hung from on certain times for filming and originally placed from where the Smithsonian displayed it at one time, hung it from the ceiling) and to this day almost every model maker has that third hole!

Now I am no engineer by any starch of the imagination! but there is no way a star ship of it's size can be built in one piece! At 288.6 meters in length (946 feet 10 13/64 inches) with a breadth of 127.1 meters (416.995 feet), weighting in at 190,000 metric tonnes (dead-weight) compared to the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) At 1,123 ft (342 m) in length, 257.2 ft (78.4 m) (extreme) Displacement: 93,284 long tons (94,781 metric tonnes) Full Load. Not even the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) was constructed in one piece, but in sections. It's one thing to build a Aircraft Carrier here on earth, but to build something this large in zero gravity and with what space throws at us!! NO WAY! the only way I could ever see a star ship as big as the Enterprise being built would have to be inside some very large space factory where people could be safe from the harsh environment of space! there is no way it could have been built on earth and then lifted into space under it's own power! again not possible! not enough RCS's or powerful enough to lift 190,000 tonnes (burning plasma or not) into orbit. Lets not even get into aerodynamics! she would not fly in an atmosphere! impulse or not. So my friends, I would say the only way our Enterprise could be built would be in some gigantic garage in space.

Scott

Well, then, I cannot wait until they have a "Garage sale"! hehehhehehe :)

Sorry to dispute you, my friend, but the 11 foot model was NOT made of wood, but fiberglass, over a wooden frame. The 3 foot was completely made of wood, that's why it swelled up and became waterlogged when "Rod" (Gene Jr.) tossed it in the pool! The whole top of the saucer could be unscrewed and lifted off, to replace the lights that they had inside, to light the windows, couldn't do that in solid wood, ya know?

The Nacelle pylons were actually 2 X 4s with a plastic coating, which was sheet plastic that was heated up and laid over the 2X4s and all the detailing was scribed into that plastic!

Just a couple of trivia points.

William

Well, then, I cannot wait until they have a "Garage sale"! hehehhehehe :)

Sorry to dispute you, my friend, but the 11 foot model was NOT made of wood, but fiberglass, over a wooden frame. The 3 foot was completely made of wood, that's why it swelled up and became waterlogged when "Rod" (Gene Jr.) tossed it in the pool! The whole top of the saucer could be unscrewed and lifted off, to replace the lights that they had inside, to light the windows, couldn't do that in solid wood, ya know?

The Nacelle pylons were actually 2 X 4s with a plastic coating, which was sheet plastic that was heated up and laid over the 2X4s and all the detailing was scribed into that plastic!

Just a couple of trivia points.

William
I wouldn't wait for the garage sale - I would "borrow it." :D:

Old topic, but, wanted to share and enjoy.

Actually, from reports that I have heard, Shatner only has about a 1 inch ring of hair above his ears! But GREAT photoshopping! :)

William

Shatner has a hairy ring ?.

EXACTLY!!! Right around his sphincter, Hehehehehehehe :)

New link on page one for the Next Gen sound effects, AND Volume four of the TOS SFX!!!

William

Well, then, I cannot wait until they have a "Garage sale"! hehehhehehe :)

Sorry to dispute you, my friend, but the 11 foot model was NOT made of wood, but fiberglass, over a wooden frame. The 3 foot was completely made of wood, that's why it swelled up and became waterlogged when "Rod" (Gene Jr.) tossed it in the pool! The whole top of the saucer could be unscrewed and lifted off, to replace the lights that they had inside, to light the windows, couldn't do that in solid wood, ya know?

The Nacelle pylons were actually 2 X 4s with a plastic coating, which was sheet plastic that was heated up and laid over the 2X4s and all the detailing was scribed into that plastic!

Just a couple of trivia points.

William

That is quite true William! but is still very evident that fiberglass is over the wood. It would appear that the model was loaned out after the series came to an end and was not treated very well and Paramount did not take very good care of it when it was returned, which is evident when you see the condition of the model when the Smithsonian got it. Either way, she has been treated very badly and then to have someone (I guess a fan), strip her down and then give her the most godawful paint job!! He should have been shot for what he did to her. From what the pictures have shown, the hole in the port side appears as if someone punched a hole in her side to get to a power plug! [which you can see very clearly] hanging out the port side engineering section! so that would account for the quad patch, I guess? but no excuse would be sufficient for the terrible restoration job on such a beloved ship! Personally, I think any of us here could have done a much better job restoring her to her original condition then the ones that screwed her up permanently! as I understand it the Smithsonian has no intention of doing any more work on her! and I can understand the reasons why, but it is still a shame to leave her like she is.

Scott

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Old topic, but, wanted to share and enjoy.





At 82 years old, what gives Shatner any idea that a man his age would still have all of his hair and just a small bit of gray in it? his ego must be enormous!!! At 77 Walter Koenig is finely showing his semi bald head, which is fine with me, but Shatner going all these years as if he is going to live ageless forever is just fooling himself....sad! Personally I enjoy my gray hair and yes it is very thin on top, but I don't care! it is who I am! which is more then I can say for Shatner.

Nice photo AZ :)


Scott

Personally, I just allow my cat to sleep on my head all day long, even when I go out in public. I get alot of nice comments, and she hides my thinning hair very well, hehehehehehe


However, at the end of the day, my hair smells like a cats BUTT!!!! :)


William

That is quite true William! but is still very evident that fiberglass is over the wood. It would appear that the model was loaned out after the series came to an end and was not treated very well and Paramount did not take very good care of it when it was returned, which is evident when you see the condition of the model when the Smithsonian got it. Either way, she has been treated very badly and then to have someone (I guess a fan), strip her down and then give her the most godawful paint job!! He should have been shot for what he did to her. From what the pictures have shown, the hole in the port side appears as if someone punched a hole in her side to get to a power plug! [which you can see very clearly] hanging out the port side engineering section! so that would account for the quad patch, I guess? but no excuse would be sufficient for the terrible restoration job on such a beloved ship! Personally, I think any of us here could have done a much better job restoring her to her original condition then the ones that screwed her up permanently! as I understand it the Smithsonian has no intention of doing any more work on her! and I can understand the reasons why, but it is still a shame to leave her like she is.

Scott

Couldn't agree more - there are millions of Star Trek fans out there who are pro modelmakers who would be able to restore her to something resembling how she (mostly) appeared onscreen in her heyday. I think it's a terrific shame that the Smithsonian don't fully appreciate the iconic status of this historic filming miniature. One time i went there and she was shoved downstairs in the toy section of the shop! This model fired up so many imaginations across the world, kids who went on to have careers in science and development. She's a symbol of all that hope and desire for human exploration.

A nice job was done on the Galileo prop:

https://www.facebook.com/TheGalileoRestoration
?Star Trek's' Shuttlecraft Galileo Warps Into Space Center Houston | Space.com (http://www.space.com/22189-star-trek-shuttlecraft-galileo-houston-museum.html)

Thanks, Scott! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif


William, do you have a photo of your cat's daytime bed? :)

I show my bald head, especially if it blinds someone.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

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The real 1701, not the fake in gift shop.

Thanks, Scott! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif


William, do you have a photo of your cat's daytime bed? :)

I show my bald head, especially if it blinds someone.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

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The real 1701, not the fake in gift shop.



I'd buy that in a heart beat! is that your space garage? cause if it is, you are one lucky sob!!!! she is beautiful!!!!


Scott

No, that's Ed Miarecki's garage, that BASTARD!


William

Couldn't agree more - there are millions of Star Trek fans out there who are pro modelmakers who would be able to restore her to something resembling how she (mostly) appeared onscreen in her heyday. I think it's a terrific shame that the Smithsonian don't fully appreciate the iconic status of this historic filming miniature. One time i went there and she was shoved downstairs in the toy section of the shop! This model fired up so many imaginations across the world, kids who went on to have careers in science and development. She's a symbol of all that hope and desire for human exploration.

A nice job was done on the Galileo prop:

https://www.facebook.com/TheGalileoRestoration
?Star Trek's' Shuttlecraft Galileo Warps Into Space Center Houston | Space.com (http://www.space.com/22189-star-trek-shuttlecraft-galileo-houston-museum.html)

It's really sad that so many people put so much time, effort and money into restoring the Galileo (which was in far worse shape then the Enterprise model) and our own tax supported US Government Smithsonian can't even get such a beloved model restored like the Shuttlecraft!!

Thanks for the updated pictures and info on the Galileo Grubbuts!! she does look like new! what devotion and love she has been shown, they even lighted up the front warp cells (Cool)!!!

Scott

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No, that's Ed Miarecki's garage, that BASTARD!


William

If your saying he has the original 11 foot model in his garage! then I say we storm his home, relieve him of that burden, tie him to a stake in his own front yard, shot him, then set his remains on fire, and then piss on the ashes! all on general principles!

Scott

I knew William would get it, and Scott, my torch and pitchfork is ready!

For everyone who PM'd me for new reupped links, they are all on PAGE one, POST one!!!!

And more to come! :)

William

For everyone who PM'd me for new reupped links, they are all on PAGE one, POST one!!!!

And more to come! :)

William

I Guess your going to have to use Neon and flashing lights William! ;)

Scott

I Guess your going to have to use Neon and flashing lights William! ;)

Scott

Dude, you guys can really use some help from Hollywood! Okies, here you go,
no one should miss the post now, if you use this!

Oh, you say there is neon and flashing lights in that picture, sorry I didn't notice.

Oh, you say there is neon and flashing lights in that picture, sorry I didn't notice.

yeah, i totally posted that for the neon light.

I have Star Trek ACTION, and just finished scanning most of the pages of Star Trek the original series sketchbook with the artwork by Matt Jefferies. I have several TREK art books that are not "out there" in PDF for download, and ACTION is among them. Should be finished with the scanning of the sketchbook next week, and I will move ACTION to the top of the pile! :)

William

I've just read this. Sorry for answering sooooo late.

It would be awesome to be able to read Action. Maybe sometime they release all these books in e-book format. Ah, wishful thinking.

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I've been away for a while and got a surprised but all the political discussion that's been going on around here. It's fine by me, I love discussion, even when I don't agree with anyone. The curse and the beauty of being really far far away, I guess.

Thanks to William and the rest for the re-upload of all the dead links. I've the majority of them but I will check nonetheless.

It's good to be back.

Since you are finally back, I have a lot of picking at you to do....you don't mind, do you?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif


I forgot to mention to you modelers out there, that the re-released TOS Bridge model is out. It now make a complete circle, more crew members, including Uhura, and Spock's and Sulu's viewers. Almost 40 years since it first came out, and we can FINALLY build a complete Bridge.

Dude, you guys can really use some help from Hollywood! Okies, here you go,
no one should miss the post now, if you use this!



Ohhh, how SPLENDID! A member of the fairer sex! But the size of your dance dressings have changed dramatically, indeed, and not for the worse! HIP-HIP-HOORAY!!!

Oh, you just HAD to post that picture from "Dusk to dawn" didn't you? That is good news about the AMT bridge model, gotta go find it, since "Obamacare" closed down my local model shop (BASTARDS) and would love to talk more, but after seeing that photo, I have to go and locate the wifey! Hehehehehe :)

William

Ohhh, how SPLENDID! A member of the fairer sex! But the size of your dance dressings have changed dramatically, indeed, and not for the worse! HIP-HIP-HOORAY!!!

Salma Hayek! if that picture does not put some steam in a man's stride, then your dead!


Scott

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Oh, you just HAD to post that picture from "Dusk to dawn" didn't you? That is good news about the AMT bridge model, gotta go find it, since "Obamacare" closed down my local model shop (BASTARDS) and would love to talk more, but after seeing that photo, I have to go and locate the wifey! Hehehehehe :)

William

I don't blame you one bit William! if that women does not get a rise out of any man, then there dead. William it's going to get worse! ACA has not come into full effect yet and when it does! there is going to be one hell of a cry from everyone. If I remember right small business's will get hit next year! and by 2016 ACA will be in full effect.


Scott

Again, Many Thanks, William!

You are MOST welcome, my friend! :)

What happened yesterday? Everyone and their sisters posted something yesterday! And NOTHING today!
Amazing! ;)

William

Some of us are too busy watching football :)

You are MOST welcome, my friend! :)

What happened yesterday? Everyone and their sisters posted something yesterday! And NOTHING today!
Amazing! ;)

William

After staring at Salma Hayek we needed the rest! LOL ;)

Scott

Some of us are too busy watching football :)

ALABAMA (ROLL TIDE)!

You are MOST welcome, my friend! :)

What happened yesterday? Everyone and their sisters posted something yesterday! And NOTHING today!
Amazing! ;)

William

Soccer.

If your saying he has the original 11 foot model in his garage! then I say we storm his home, relieve him of that burden, tie him to a stake in his own front yard, shot him, then set his remains on fire, and then piss on the ashes! all on general principles!

Scott

That's a bit extreme isn't it? I take it you don't like this chap then ;)

DON'T LIKE! I SAY NUKE HIM!!!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thunhappy.gif

Well, chances are that "east coast Eddie" possibly dropped the "Big E" down a well for a couple of decades, and will only bring it out in the future, when he needs some bucks for his retirement. Either that, or he already sold it, and it's on display in a private Iran trekkie's house, in a display case, with armed guards that we will have to shoot it out with, just to get our beautiful model back on US soil.

Same thing happened with the original Aston Martin DB5 from "Goldfinger"! It was stolen from an airport storage facility in Florida, by someone who didn't know it was there, since they hit several other lockers in the same row, and then stopped with the Aston Martin. It was fully loaded with all the extras, and disappeared, never to be seen again. Chances are that it's being held by a private owner overseas!

BASTARDS!!!

William

So THIS is the sticking point with Iran and the USA, I hope John Kerry wins out.

That's a bit extreme isn't it? I take it you don't like this chap then ;)

If he substituted the original 11 foot filming model of the TOS Enterprise for the piece of crap displayed at the Smithsonian! Then he deserves to suffer greatly.

Scott

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So THIS is the sticking point with Iran and the USA, I hope John Kerry wins out.


John Kerry could not open a Heinz Ketchup Bottle! All we (USA) will get is screwed and nuked....in that order.

Scott

If he substituted the original 11 foot filming model of the TOS Enterprise for the piece of crap displayed at the Smithsonian! Then he deserves to suffer greatly.

Scott

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John Kerry could not open a Heinz Ketchup Bottle! All we (USA) will get is screwed and nuked....in that order.

Scott

I dunno about you, but i'd like a good f*ck before annihalation! :D

Scott, I can never use Heinz Ketchup after that comment!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Zachary Quinto vs. Leonard Nimoy: "The Challenge" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs)

LOVE that vid, thanks for the share.

William

I dunno about you, but i'd like a good f*ck before annihalation! :D

I kind of would like to stop a radical terrorist country from obtaining nuclear weapons so we can avoid a nuclear exchange! After that, you can have all the sex you want.

Scott

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Scott, I can never use Heinz Ketchup after that comment!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

So far you are the only one my friend, that got the pun! or even knows who john Kerry wife is....now that is sad! and the reason why so many people have no clue on this mans utter lack of experience to hold the position he holds today. So much for well informed voters!

Scott

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Zachary Quinto vs. Leonard Nimoy: "The Challenge" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs)

LOOOOOOOOOL now that was funny!! Thanks for that one olafolaf :)

Scott

I kind of would like to stop a radical terrorist country from obtaining nuclear weapons so we can avoid a nuclear exchange! After that, you can have all the sex you want.

Scott[COLOR="Silver"]

There must be a way to multitask :P

There must be a way to multitask :P

Well, a job for James Bond, I would say. He was a master of this kind of multi-tasking (saving the world while having sex, that is! Or, at least, quickly changing between those two tasks in rapid order). :)

Found these, thought everyone might be interested.

670 (although I didn't count them) ST Novels: A zipped collection in three pieces. Get 'em before they're gone

Part 1 (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/MJSMW88U/Star_Trek_Novels_670__pt_1_0.zip_links)
Part 2 (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0IGU8ASE/Star_Trek_Novels_670__pt_2_0.zip_links)
Part 3 (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/9H1B4VU1/Star_Trek_Novels_670__pt_3.zip_links)

There must be a way to multitask :P

With John Kerry? the man can not walk and chew gum at the same time. His promotion is nothing but a pay back for all his political backing of obummer and now he is trying to score a big treaty with Iran as a final curtain call to his political career. In the end he will fall flat on his face! And we, the free world well pay the price for his last hoorah and stupidity. You can not negotiate with terrorists! the only thing they understand is raw unadulterated power and death. I know that sounds pretty harsh! but that is the truth, when you are dealing with a group of people that love death and see that as a way to get to paradise (as they believe) [World War II Japan is a prime example of a society that loved death over life, and what we had to do to get them to surrender] your only option is to send them on their way as fast as you can.

Scott

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Well, a job for James Bond, I would say. He was a master of this kind of multi-tasking (saving the world while having sex, that is! Or, at least, quickly changing between those two tasks in rapid order). :)

To bad we don't have a James Bond as Secretary of State today!

Scott

Well, I for one would want some third world country to get a nuke, then we can have the covert agents go in, and set timers on all their stock, and blow the SHIT out of their stupid lives, and show the rest of the world that's what happens when you play around with something you shouldn't. Kennedy should have done that with Castro back in 1963! Would have really shown the world what the hell was going on. America is STILL taking shit for that clusterfuck!
Yep, a ground detonation would show everyone that nukes cannot be handled, by any means, safely. The more that go off "by accident", the more the point will be driven home!

And I'm a totally non-violent person, check that out! :)

William

The source music link is down.

Dr. William Strangelove?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Well, I for one would want some third world country to get a nuke, then we can have the covert agents go in, and set timers on all their stock, and blow the SHIT out of their stupid lives, and show the rest of the world that's what happens when you play around with something you shouldn't. Kennedy should have done that with Castro back in 1963! Would have really shown the world what the hell was going on. America is STILL taking shit for that clusterfuck!
Yep, a ground detonation would show everyone that nukes cannot be handled, by any means, safely. The more that go off "by accident", the more the point will be driven home!

And I'm a totally non-violent person, check that out! :)

William

Sounds great William! just one problem, nukes won't cook-off with conventional explosives, all you're going to get is highly radioactive uranium fragments scattered all over an area of a few hundred feet. Iran has really no idea what it means to make a thermonuclear warhead! they think it is some toy for threatening other country's! it's much more then that! the security involved in keeping them secure and safe is one thing, but the radioactive waste or byproduct is a fraking nightmare!! and wont go away with a simple wash of soap and water! we are talking about waste that well last for hundred of thousands of years! not just spilled fluid! whatever it comes into contact with becomes highly radioactive and has to be cut up into small pieces, put into special barrels that won't leak and are radiation proof and then buried somewhere that will not contaminate the ground and ground water for thousands of years. Look at three mile island! Reactor unit 2 (a partial meltdown) in 1979, cleanup started in August 1979, and officially ended in December 1993, with a total cleanup cost of about $1 billion. Not until 1993 was Post-Defueling completed and unit 2 was put into long-term, monitored storage until the operating license for the TMI-1 plant expires at which time both plants will be decommissioned. Unit 1 reactor may operate until April 19, 2034. Every piece of unit 2 was cut up [building, reactor vessel, concrete floors, piping...everything] and all materials used in the clean-up was placed into special containers and shipped to a DOE site to sit for untold years and hoping none of it leaks or contaminates the ground, water or air. A nuclear warhead is made out of metal (how it is done is classified) [so it can be shaped into a sphere] but starts out as a powder (yellow cake) then made into a gas, all the machines used to turn this powder into gas are now radioactive and will have to be deposed of safely and replaced and on and on it goes until you have enough gas to be turned into a metal, then a whole different process begins and contaminates all the machines used to turn a gas into a metal and it all has to be disposed of, then start all over again, then the metal is milled into a sphere and all the machines become radioactive and then they have to be disposed of and on it goes! Sooner rather then later they will have an accident! radiation will be released and the whole plant will have to be deposed of and no way to do it or handle it and this does not even count the thousand's of humans that will die...remember Chernobyl!! enough said...sorry I went on way to far.

Scott

D'oh!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif

Here is a tin button I have had since high school in the mid1970s. I think it's appropriate here ....

http://yadi.sk/d/82AgFEc7CjgXj

This is my first time trying to post images. If that did not work, here is a link to hat image which I just sent to Yandex.disk : Please Be Kind to Me or I'll Kill You button.jpg ? Yandex.Disk (http://yadi.sk/d/82AgFEc7CjgXj)

IT DIDN'T WORK ... SO SEE IT THROUGH THE LINK ... Somebody teach me these things!

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com/)
Spock?s Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com/)

Yes, Mr. Scott, I know how a nuke works. As a matter of fact, when I was in school, a young man here in the states actually found all the documents to build a thermonuclear device, except that he didn't have any explosives in it, and no plutonium either, but he set it up as a science project, and was arrested by the FBI, who let him off, as long as he told them where he got all the documents, so they could go and restrict access to them. This was the basis for the movie "the Manhattan project" with John Litgow!

Also, when I was younger, my neighbor had a shirt that said "If the opposite of PRO is CON, then the opposite of PROGRESS is CONGRESS"!!! :)

I never forgot that, and always will feel that is true. Congress is opposed to progress, to be sure.

William

Yes, Mr. Scott, I know how a nuke works. As a matter of fact, when I was in school, a young man here in the states actually found all the documents to build a thermonuclear device, except that he didn't have any explosives in it, and no plutonium either, but he set it up as a science project, and was arrested by the FBI, who let him off, as long as he told them where he got all the documents, so they could go and restrict access to them. This was the basis for the movie "the Manhattan project" with John Litgow!

Also, when I was younger, my neighbor had a shirt that said "If the opposite of PRO is CON, then the opposite of PROGRESS is CONGRESS"!!! :)

I never forgot that, and always will feel that is true. Congress is opposed to progress, to be sure.

William

I remember seeing the news report on that! and wondering the same thing the FBI was asking! if I remember right he got all the documents from a local college library (LA area)?

As for progress, it depends on what you are trying to progress? Progress as in the Federal Government taking care of people from cradle to grave? Telling companies how to run there own business? What TV's or Car's we have to buy, the list goes on and on! Our Governments job (according to our Constitution) is to protect the Country, Enforce or Prosecute the law's (Written by Congress Only!), regulate commerce between the states and run the Post Office (which is Billions in the hole btw) and that's it! everything else belongs to the States and us the people (See Tenth Amendment). If you or anyone else can find anything other then these in the Constitution then please tell me the Article Number and Section so I can have my own copy of the Constitution updated. I for one, firmly believe the less I see or hear of the Government the better off we all are.

I don't wish to be mean spirited about all this! you are a good friend William and I would like to keep it that way, but what happened to individuality? each person taking care of and responsible for his or her own life and family? I know William you take very good care of your family (and I know you are very proud of that...and you have every right to be proud! And anyone else that does should be to) and I have and continue to do the same with mine, we are both responsible for our own life's and family (the only time that ends is when we are dead) but where does it say I or We have to take care of everybody else's life's? My family comes first above anyone else! And anyone! that try's to tell me other wise is going to get a very hard kick in the ass or worse. Now, if I (or you) want to help someone out that is my choice! and choice is the key word here! don't try and force me into it, because I will push back very hard and they wont like it one bit. Don't get me wrong, if a neighbor of mine is in need of help, I will help! even if it means my own life or a child is in danger, you can bet I'll protect that child with my life in a heartbeat!! Call me selfish? but I will answer personally (we all will) for my own family's well being from a much Higher Authority then anyone on this rock! and I would rather have a good report from Him then anyone else here.

Scott

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D'oh!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif

Urban Renewal at it's finest!!

"Nothing like the smell of Uranium in the morning" ;)


Scott

Remember IDIC!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

Have not been on here for a while. It used to be a discussion and sharing all about Star Trek, these days it just seems to be politics (American, yawn) bad language and silly jokes. Pity...

As I do! I am totally for IDIC! And I feel that there should not be a reason for ANYONE to take another's life, or interfere with free will! Remember the prime directive! :)

Sorry to have disappointed you, Khitomer! :(

William

As I do! I am totally for IDIC! And I feel that there should not be a reason for ANYONE to take another's life, or interfere with free will! Remember the prime directive! :)

Sorry to have disappointed you, Khitomer! :(

William

Amen to that! I have seen enough of that to last me the rest of my life.

Khitomer sometimes the other half comes out, I know I should keep my big mouth shut, but it gets the best of me! There are a few things that just don't work for marriage and friendship....one of them is Religion and Politics! they don't mix...And yes, I should follow my own advise! which I am sorry if I pissed off anyone. I shall endeavor to keep my big mouth shut.

Scott

Scott, are you alright? You sure are real quiet.:)

With the 1701 Bridge model out, a Brass Photo Etched set is coming out with various add on parts for more details, only $29.95. Model building is enjoyable, but expensive with the after market parts like PE, decals, light and sound kits. I do like the choices, not the cost.:(

WHERE did you see brass etched pieces for the TOS bridge model??? BTW, I do have the clear transparent bridge pieces that I got for the OLD AMT TOS bridge set. So, if this new model is in the same scale, you can just PM me, and I'll send you a HQ copy of my scan, and you can add lighted panels to your model, fairly easily! :)

EDIT: Never mind, I just found the brass pieces at "Monstersinmotion.com"! :)

VERY nice, I might add.


William

William, thanks for the offer of the scans, but, I already have the set. I read that the decals that come with the model is accurate to the real bridge.

If you want to see the site for the PE set and more, here is the link: ParaGrafix� Modeling Systems (http://www.paragrafix.biz/)

VERY cool stuff. I really like the photos of the TOS shuttle restoration. Whoever that was did a wonderful restore job on her. She looks GREAT! :)

William

Speaking of the Galileo 7, a new tooled 1/32 (same scale as Bridge) model kit is in the works.

I don't know who restored the Galileo 7, but glad it is indoors in Houston.

Okay, I think that I had asked this before, but will do it again. I'm almost done with my reups on the other threads, leaving the biggest for last, and since I have SO many ST scores and misc stuff, I wanted to find out from all of you which ones you want reupped FIRST. I have to make a list of those that have already been reupped on the other thread, and then scratch them off my list, but for the meantime, if anyone wants a specific TREK score, or whatever, please PLEASE, just let me know.

Thanks, William

Biggest? Something new?

Started watching the Enterprise series again, first time in good visual quality and must say this is a cool show.
Two mistakes though: The whole temporal cold war and Xindi Race plot line is boring and dumb and Captain Archer early in the show is shown far to often in his quaters. A Captain belongs on the bridge and the audience needs him to be there to associate him with command and being the shows "anchorman" not just being a Beagle hugger.

Oh and what an awesome actor the Tucker guy is!

Speaking of the Galileo 7, a new tooled 1/32 (same scale as Bridge) model kit is in the works.

I don't know who restored the Galileo 7, but glad it is indoors in Houston.

Really? Cool! I've always wanted a model of the Galileo that fixes the rear of the ship and sorts the curves on top. That the AMT corporation built the original prop and then did the most inaccurate kit imaginable was always a source of bafflement to me. It's not like it's a particularly complicated design, after all.

Who is doing the kit - is it Round 2?

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Started watching the Enterprise series again, first time in good visual quality and must say this is a cool show.
Two mistakes though: The whole temporal cold war and Xindi Race plot line is boring and dumb and Captain Archer early in the show is shown far to often in his quaters. A Captain belongs on the bridge and the audience needs him to be there to associate him with command and being the shows "anchorman" not just being a Beagle hugger.

Oh and what an awesome actor the Tucker guy is!

I've been rewatching bits again too - season 4 particularly where it really begins to find its legs and stops trying to be TNG-lite. If you can get beyond the flawed premise, it has a great crew and some rewarding episodes, for sure. Certainly I enjoy it more than Voyager.

Round 2 is doing the model.

I agree about Enterprise having a great crew and some rewarding episodes. I think if Berman had the look of the show more like before TOS, and following the canon set down in TOS, it would have been a hit with us http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif guys and gals. It is a shame to have happen that way, I like the show, now.

Round 2 is doing the model.

I agree about Enterprise having a great crew and some rewarding episodes. I think if Berman had the look of the show more like before TOS, and following the canon set down in TOS, it would have been a hit with us http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif guys and gals. It is a shame to have happen that way, I like the show, now.

Yeah. If they had made it look more 'retro' and begun with the sort of thing they did in season 4, it might've lasted a full seven seasons, too. But, a few years distant, on revisiting, I'm finding more good stuff there than not.

I'll check out Round 2 on the Galileo news - thanks!

Here's a link about the shuttlecraft with pictures. You have to go down to find the article:

Star Trek | Collector Model (http://www.collectormodel.com/category/star-trek/#sthash.Da0WR6AH.dpbs)

Enjoy, William

Started watching the Enterprise series again, first time in good visual quality and must say this is a cool show.
Two mistakes though: The whole temporal cold war and Xindi Race plot line is boring and dumb and Captain Archer early in the show is shown far to often in his quaters. A Captain belongs on the bridge and the audience needs him to be there to associate him with command and being the shows "anchorman" not just being a Beagle hugger.

Oh and what an awesome actor the Tucker guy is!

I love Enterprise. one of my mates and myself are watching it when my other half is at work. We've been watching it through my video projector on a 103 inch screen. It holds up really well at that size.

Don't forget guys it's Doctor Who's 50th Birthday tomorrow. It's not only on television tomorrow, but also being shown in the cinemas in 3D as well. I've booked tickets and am taking my two boys. Happy days. been shown all over the world at the same time I believe. :)

Here's a link about the shuttlecraft with pictures. You have to go down to find the article:

Star Trek | Collector Model (http://www.collectormodel.com/category/star-trek/#sthash.Da0WR6AH.dpbs)

Enjoy, William

I forget to check out Round 2 blog, and that is where to get more info on future releases.

William, now would be time to build the Hangar Bay, in scale with the Galileo.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif...;)

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Don't forget guys it's Doctor Who's 50th Birthday tomorrow. It's not only on television tomorrow, but also being shown in the cinemas in 3D as well. I've booked tickets and am taking my two boys. Happy days. been shown all over the world at the same time I believe. :)

I did forget, thanks. I guess I will watch THE FIVE DOCTORS from the Peter Davison era with THE MASTER ;)...a wink from Doctor number 7,Sylvester McCoy at you! Enjoy the 50th Anniversary showing.

We should keep in mind that the "restorer" of the filming model may not have had carte blanch on how to restore the ship. Like any hired artists, he may have been given "direction" on how to proceed.

Speaking of models, has there been any word of the new 1/350 scale K'Tinga Battle Cruiser from The Motion Picture, or even pics?

I never heard about that. Since I can't afford much, I stopped looking.

It is supposed to be a newly tolled Klingon cruiser to match the scale and detail of the 1/350 refit Enterprise. I am...curious to at least see it. If it indeed gets made.

You should check out that site. I was on there for over an hour, looking around, and I think I saw some construction photos of that model, the MOTION PICTURE Klingon warship!

If I had someone build a scale shuttlecraft bay, to the new model kit, it would wind up being about 8 or 9 feet long!!! I would have to park outside, and store that monster in my garage! :)

William

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I did forget, thanks. I guess I will watch THE FIVE DOCTORS from the Peter Davison era with THE MASTER ;)...a wink from Doctor number 7,Sylvester McCoy at you! Enjoy the 50th Anniversary showing.

Just got back from the cinema. Was a great episode. Really good, but I won't give any spoilers ;)

Who did you see?

Check out Google's Logo for some Doctor Who fun.

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You should check out that site. I was on there for over an hour, looking around, and I think I saw some construction photos of that model, the MOTION PICTURE Klingon warship!

If I had someone build a scale shuttlecraft bay, to the new model kit, it would wind up being about 8 or 9 feet long!!! I would have to park outside, and store that monster in my garage! :)

William

Don't you have room outside to park? Some sacrifices are worth it!

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It is supposed to be a newly tolled Klingon cruiser to match the scale and detail of the 1/350 refit Enterprise. I am...curious to at least see it. If it indeed gets made.

I found this ...KIT ALERT!! 24 Inch 1:350 Klingon K?Tinga Battlecrusier from TITAN Models and Memorabilia (http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=39069)

That's kind of weird, Titan models only has that one kit, and a Star Wars ship for sale! Must be a really new company, or a garage kit company.

William

At the price of the model, a garage kit company.

I have far too many unbuilt models. But still want to buy new ones!

DUDE, send the all to me, I'll build them! Heheehhehehehe


Just try to get them BACK, however! :)

I had SOOOO many fan made "garage kits" in the past, including a VERY nice STTMP transport vessel (the one that Kirk and Scotty went over to the Enterprise at the first of the movie), but they were burned up when my storage unit caught on fire. :( Now I wish that I had built and detailed them, totally lighted and displayed, then I would still have them. So many model kits from AMT and Polar Lights, the BIG "Lost in Space" Jupiter 2 ship with interior kit and special decal sheet, and a 6 foot STTMP Enterprise refit ship made of fiberglass, that a fan down in Texas had created and sold a couple of dozen times before the studio suits caught up with him and closed him down! EEEEERRRRRRRR!
You know, if the damned studios are not going to license a legit model company to release a big model like that, and have no intentions of letting anyone else do it, why don't they just leave the fans ALONE?

There was a fellow that I had known, here in CA, that made a very nice model kit of the TOS phaser. He was learning how to make molds, and one project of his class was how to create one of the metal molds, like AMT or one of those companies. He decided to do a phaser kit model, like AMT would have done, if they got it right. He produced a couple of hundred kits, paying the teacher for the raw materials, and had some gray phaser tips, but also made some nice chrome phaser tips as well.

About a year later, two suits from the studio showed up at his door, and demanded to grab any kits he had, along with the metal molds. He informed them that the metal mold was the property of the school, and was melted back down, and showed them about 25-30 kits in ziplock bags, stating that was all he had. They took the kits, served him with a "Cease and Desist" notice, and said that if he violated any copyright material again, they would take away his house, and garnish his wages for all time. I told him that they were just trying to scare him, but he told me that it worked, he was SCARED! He was a great model maker, but never did anything like that ever again. So sad. :(

I really HATE bullies.

William

DUDE, send the all to me, I'll build them! Heheehhehehehe


Just try to get them BACK, however! :)

I had SOOOO many fan made "garage kits" in the past, including a VERY nice STTMP transport vessel (the one that Kirk and Scotty went over to the Enterprise at the first of the movie), but they were burned up when my storage unit caught on fire. :( Now I wish that I had built and detailed them, totally lighted and displayed, then I would still have them. So many model kits from AMT and Polar Lights, the BIG "Lost in Space" Jupiter 2 ship with interior kit and special decal sheet, and a 6 foot STTMP Enterprise refit ship made of fiberglass, that a fan down in Texas had created and sold a couple of dozen times before the studio suits caught up with him and closed him down! EEEEERRRRRRRR!
You know, if the damned studios are not going to license a legit model company to release a big model like that, and have no intentions of letting anyone else do it, why don't they just leave the fans ALONE?

There was a fellow that I had known, here in CA, that made a very nice model kit of the TOS phaser. He was learning how to make molds, and one project of his class was how to create one of the metal molds, like AMT or one of those companies. He decided to do a phaser kit model, like AMT would have done, if they got it right. He produced a couple of hundred kits, paying the teacher for the raw materials, and had some gray phaser tips, but also made some nice chrome phaser tips as well.

About a year later, two suits from the studio showed up at his door, and demanded to grab any kits he had, along with the metal molds. He informed them that the metal mold was the property of the school, and was melted back down, and showed them about 25-30 kits in ziplock bags, stating that was all he had. They took the kits, served him with a "Cease and Desist" notice, and said that if he violated any copyright material again, they would take away his house, and garnish his wages for all time. I told him that they were just trying to scare him, but he told me that it worked, he was SCARED! He was a great model maker, but never did anything like that ever again. So sad. :(

I really HATE bullies.

William

This is what happens when people do not know there rights! your friend should have slammed the door in their face and called the cops to report "Criminal Threats" (PC 422) where made against him and sue the studio. I do know that there are a few people in your area William that make and sell garage kits of the Enterprise (SNG) (and several other popular shows and movies) for several thousand dollars (which is ridiculous and just plain highway robbery) how they get away with it, I don't know...unless the studio's just don't know or maybe it has to do with quantity? you can sell 5 or 10, but then they get there tits in a twist if you sell...say 100! then they call the legal department and send the suits to intimidate the crap right out of someone.

I gave up building those model kits several years ago (don't get me wrong I loved it and it was so relaxing to spend hours building, detailing and painting them) but I just could not endure the crappy why AMT and the others made them! so damn small, and just cheaply made! so I gave it up, plus I just ran out of room to display them all, and what a pain in the butt to dust. What I want is studio film grade model's! hundred's of thousand's of dollars worth!!! and I'd need a medium sized warehouse to hold them all. :) not enough time to enjoy them...oh well, a nice dream.

Scott

Speaking of models, again. I just reserved this model that comes out next year, sometime....Star Trek Exploration Set reissue from AMT/Round 2.
This was my first Phaser, Tricorder, and Communicator. Some may know or not, that this model set is based on TAS. I never read this, but noticed
in the series that they are the same color/shape. SO, if you want a piece of TAS, this is it.

I wish I had a garage kit. My cars have been sitting in the rain for thirty years now.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Mark
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Well, Scotty, to answer your question about people making all sorts of stuff, without a copyright, YES, I have noticed that every since VIACOM was kicked out of control of TREK (although their name is still on every TREK movie????) CBS has been a little more relaxed about beating up on the fans, and people who create garage kits and stuff like that.

There was a fellow that I saw at the conventions all the time, who had just about EVERYTHING with Starfleet logos on them, such as checkbooks and shirts and sweaters, just about everything he had, was obviously NOT legal. He was from Florida, and was a professional convention businessman, and always had a ton of people around his tables, which were about 6 or 8 tables everytime I saw him. But then the studios clamped down on things like that, and he (and several others) disappeared. I remember a fellow named Jeff Siliphant from "Still Things", which carried a bunch of TREK related photos, many of which were outtakes and blooper shots, and NOBODY else had them. The studio sent people over to the convention, and then later to his store (this was at a "Creation" con) and grabbed every photo from TREK that he had. He was sued by the studio and they demanded that he turn his negatives over to them! When I had heard about this, I called him up at home, and told him to meet me at a restaurant in the valley, where I offered to RESHOOT all of his TREK photos into negs, and he could turn THOSE over to the blasted studio! I saw that the studio was also hammering websites, who were posting pictures from TREK that they had not authorized, shutting down the websites (FAN websites) for copyright violations! Jeff refused to take me up on my offer, since he thought that I was a studio spy and trying to get him into trouble, some sort of trap! He turned over his negs, and stopped selling any TREK photos, which was a complete shame.


I remember that the actor, Roddy McDowell had a very large collection of his own 35MM films, which he would drag out at parties, and have a film showing for his friends. The studio (I think it was MGM) came out with the cops and feds, took all of his films away and DESTROYED them! I saw a news report about 2 or 3 years later, that MGM had to go to a PRIVATE collector, and get his copy of "Forbidden Planet", since they were going to transfer the film to VHS video, and when they opened the vault, the master negs were covered with a green gel, and totally ruined. A film fan down in Texas had a mint copy, but some of the color tones had turned red, which can be corrected, so they actually BOUGHT his copy of the film, and that is what we have today! STUPID BASTARDS!!!


I HATE HATE HATE bullies!!!!! :(


Willliam

Well, Scotty, to answer your question about people making all sorts of stuff, without a copyright, YES, I have noticed that every since VIACOM was kicked out of control of TREK (although their name is still on every TREK movie????) CBS has been a little more relaxed about beating up on the fans, and people who create garage kits and stuff like that.

There was a fellow that I saw at the conventions all the time, who had just about EVERYTHING with Starfleet logos on them, such as checkbooks and shirts and sweaters, just about everything he had, was obviously NOT legal. He was from Florida, and was a professional convention businessman, and always had a ton of people around his tables, which were about 6 or 8 tables everytime I saw him. But then the studios clamped down on things like that, and he (and several others) disappeared. I remember a fellow named Jeff Siliphant from "Still Things", which carried a bunch of TREK related photos, many of which were outtakes and blooper shots, and NOBODY else had them. The studio sent people over to the convention, and then later to his store (this was at a "Creation" con) and grabbed every photo from TREK that he had. He was sued by the studio and they demanded that he turn his negatives over to them! When I had heard about this, I called him up at home, and told him to meet me at a restaurant in the valley, where I offered to RESHOOT all of his TREK photos into negs, and he could turn THOSE over to the blasted studio! I saw that the studio was also hammering websites, who were posting pictures from TREK that they had not authorized, shutting down the websites (FAN websites) for copyright violations! Jeff refused to take me up on my offer, since he thought that I was a studio spy and trying to get him into trouble, some sort of trap! He turned over his negs, and stopped selling any TREK photos, which was a complete shame.


I remember that the actor, Roddy McDowell had a very large collection of his own 35MM films, which he would drag out at parties, and have a film showing for his friends. The studio (I think it was MGM) came out with the cops and feds, took all of his films away and DESTROYED them! I saw a news report about 2 or 3 years later, that MGM had to go to a PRIVATE collector, and get his copy of "Forbidden Planet", since they were going to transfer the film to VHS video, and when they opened the vault, the master negs were covered with a green gel, and totally ruined. A film fan down in Texas had a mint copy, but some of the color tones had turned red, which can be corrected, so they actually BOUGHT his copy of the film, and that is what we have today! STUPID BASTARDS!!!


I HATE HATE HATE bullies!!!!! :(


Willliam"The more you tighten your grip, MPAA, the more money will slip through your fingers." Or something like that...

It's not even the MPAA, it's whatever company held the rights to distribute Star Trek media (CBS/Prarmount). Dunno about CBS given they were once Viacom, but Paramount are in fact dicks. Prolly 'cos they're a subsidiary of Viacom.

Well, Scotty, to answer your question about people making all sorts of stuff, without a copyright, YES, I have noticed that every since VIACOM was kicked out of control of TREK (although their name is still on every TREK movie????) CBS has been a little more relaxed about beating up on the fans, and people who create garage kits and stuff like that.

There was a fellow that I saw at the conventions all the time, who had just about EVERYTHING with Starfleet logos on them, such as checkbooks and shirts and sweaters, just about everything he had, was obviously NOT legal. He was from Florida, and was a professional convention businessman, and always had a ton of people around his tables, which were about 6 or 8 tables everytime I saw him. But then the studios clamped down on things like that, and he (and several others) disappeared. I remember a fellow named Jeff Siliphant from "Still Things", which carried a bunch of TREK related photos, many of which were outtakes and blooper shots, and NOBODY else had them. The studio sent people over to the convention, and then later to his store (this was at a "Creation" con) and grabbed every photo from TREK that he had. He was sued by the studio and they demanded that he turn his negatives over to them! When I had heard about this, I called him up at home, and told him to meet me at a restaurant in the valley, where I offered to RESHOOT all of his TREK photos into negs, and he could turn THOSE over to the blasted studio! I saw that the studio was also hammering websites, who were posting pictures from TREK that they had not authorized, shutting down the websites (FAN websites) for copyright violations! Jeff refused to take me up on my offer, since he thought that I was a studio spy and trying to get him into trouble, some sort of trap! He turned over his negs, and stopped selling any TREK photos, which was a complete shame.


I remember that the actor, Roddy McDowell had a very large collection of his own 35MM films, which he would drag out at parties, and have a film showing for his friends. The studio (I think it was MGM) came out with the cops and feds, took all of his films away and DESTROYED them! I saw a news report about 2 or 3 years later, that MGM had to go to a PRIVATE collector, and get his copy of "Forbidden Planet", since they were going to transfer the film to VHS video, and when they opened the vault, the master negs were covered with a green gel, and totally ruined. A film fan down in Texas had a mint copy, but some of the color tones had turned red, which can be corrected, so they actually BOUGHT his copy of the film, and that is what we have today! STUPID BASTARDS!!!


I HATE HATE HATE bullies!!!!! :(


Willliam


I remember seeing at shows Floppy Discs of many Star Trek related stuff, and other cool stuff, then....gone, just like you said.

Selling stuff is one thing, but having a web site about a show, what is the big deal, or so I though. I found a site about the Radio Series ALIEN WORLDS, with more info than I knew about. Then, Lee Hansen or the Company running it, wanted to create a site, mainly to sell the series on CD and Downloads. The UNOFFICIAL site was killed off, and the new one came up. The new one's info section SUCKED compared to the old. It was a shame to not have the old one to compliment the new, by showing and referring to the new site.

Just like Warner's attacking Harry Potter sites, just because the movie was coming out. BASTARDS!

Well, Scotty, to answer your question about people making all sorts of stuff, without a copyright, YES, I have noticed that every since VIACOM was kicked out of control of TREK (although their name is still on every TREK movie????) CBS has been a little more relaxed about beating up on the fans, and people who create garage kits and stuff like that.

There was a fellow that I saw at the conventions all the time, who had just about EVERYTHING with Starfleet logos on them, such as checkbooks and shirts and sweaters, just about everything he had, was obviously NOT legal. He was from Florida, and was a professional convention businessman, and always had a ton of people around his tables, which were about 6 or 8 tables everytime I saw him. But then the studios clamped down on things like that, and he (and several others) disappeared. I remember a fellow named Jeff Siliphant from "Still Things", which carried a bunch of TREK related photos, many of which were outtakes and blooper shots, and NOBODY else had them. The studio sent people over to the convention, and then later to his store (this was at a "Creation" con) and grabbed every photo from TREK that he had. He was sued by the studio and they demanded that he turn his negatives over to them! When I had heard about this, I called him up at home, and told him to meet me at a restaurant in the valley, where I offered to RESHOOT all of his TREK photos into negs, and he could turn THOSE over to the blasted studio! I saw that the studio was also hammering websites, who were posting pictures from TREK that they had not authorized, shutting down the websites (FAN websites) for copyright violations! Jeff refused to take me up on my offer, since he thought that I was a studio spy and trying to get him into trouble, some sort of trap! He turned over his negs, and stopped selling any TREK photos, which was a complete shame.


I remember that the actor, Roddy McDowell had a very large collection of his own 35MM films, which he would drag out at parties, and have a film showing for his friends. The studio (I think it was MGM) came out with the cops and feds, took all of his films away and DESTROYED them! I saw a news report about 2 or 3 years later, that MGM had to go to a PRIVATE collector, and get his copy of "Forbidden Planet", since they were going to transfer the film to VHS video, and when they opened the vault, the master negs were covered with a green gel, and totally ruined. A film fan down in Texas had a mint copy, but some of the color tones had turned red, which can be corrected, so they actually BOUGHT his copy of the film, and that is what we have today! STUPID BASTARDS!!!


I HATE HATE HATE bullies!!!!! :(


Willliam

None of that surprise's me any more! I remember (when I was a young man) going to one of the convention's in San Diego (1977) and seeing the whole convention floor covered with Trek booths, selling everything imaginable!! even home made prop's, paintings, and prints. Now a days I'm sure it is nothing but licensed only merchandise! I understand the studios side of the issue (MONEY) but to cut off the fans creative talent's and free enterprise rights on a TV show that is almost 50 years old is just plan wrong!

I was involved in a raid years ago, here where I live (which is in the middle of Agriculture country of the State) and it turned out several guys where making illegal copies of (Studio Movies) VHS tapes and selling them for $5.00 a tape. You would have thought these guys were making and selling crack cocaine! or some Meth Lab!! we had FBI agents, Secrete Service agents, City PD, hell we even had are own (County) SWAT Team there...All for two guys making copies of VHS tapes! it was funny watching these guys wearing Tactical Gear like we were storming a fortified building! all for a few thousand tapes. This little operation costs the tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars and tied up law enforcement agency's for hours! it was enough time, that it took us two full days to clear our own back log of calls! Unreal!! in the end these two guys ended up getting 10 years in state prison (at tax payers expense) and all we got was a nice letter in our jackets (personal files) and a pat on the back! Management got TV exposure (local News) and made this out like it was a huge operation! stealing several million dollars a month from multi-billion dollar companies!! What a joke! That was the last time I volunteered for any raids, other then drug raids....

I would have thought MGM had more brains then that! The question is "Where did Mr. McDowell get those prints?" the answer is from MGM it's self! Maybe from the Director or Mr. Mayer himself! and when he was given those prints he was never given a letter from the studio, saying he had the right to posses those prints! All this was before the Digital Millennium Rights Act. It is not against the copy right law to show a film for private use, as long as you are not making any money off the showing! hell they even do that for the President of The United States! it's not like he can just go out to any movie theater any time he wants too...I bet you half the White House is in the room with him, along with there kids and wife's. I sure hope Mr. McDowell sued the studio and cops for that crap! I know I would have.

You know William, half of what Law Enforcement or major companies get a way with is just plan Bullying other people! Scaring the living shit out of the uneducated masses! This is the unvarnished truth! because I used the same tactics on those same uneducated people! There is nothing worse for a cop or lawyer then a person that knows his or her rights and what a cop can and cannot do, same goes for a lawyer! If any Law Enforcement Officer reads you your Miranda Rights then you are "Officially Under Arrest"! Listen to your rights and exercise them! 1: Remain Silent 2: Ask for your Lawyer (rather you have one or not, it goes with Number 4 [If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning, if you wish.] 3: re-read 1,2 3 and 4) make damn sure you "Remain Silent" because anything you say well be used against you! Guaranteed 100 percent. All these points will piss off any Law Enforcement Officer, so don't be surprised if they get mad at you! or try and plead with you about doing the right thing! Remember all these, rather you did something wrong or not, that is for your lawyer to figure out! These also work for Studio Suites (I capitalized these for a very good reason! "SS" if you don't know who they were google it) that my show up at your door.

Scott

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Quick question William, Are you going to re-up all the music for Space 1999 and UFO? just wondering...:)


Scott

Hi folks ... this is a request actually , however i felt this was the best thread. On the new season 5 NG blu ray there is a 74 minute feature on the music ... i cant afford to buy the whole box set is there any chance and its a slim one but can anyone upload this at all ... thanks in advance people!!

The only attorney we need is Samuel T. Cogley!

The only attorney we need is Samuel T. Cogley!

I don't know ... Areel Shaw was awfully cute. She can kiss the star of THIS ship's captain any time. Va-Va-Voom!

Mark
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I agree with you, except she lost the case, and we need a winning Attorney.

Hi guys, i don't wanna buy the Star Trek (Movie) Blu Rays because they have comments from the screenwriters of JJ Abrams abomination (and why they fuck have THEM comment on those, they didn't even create the stuff!).
Do you know of any other Blu Ray Editions, even if no longer available?

Thx!

I agree with you, except she lost the case, and we need a winning Attorney.

I like your new avatar AZ! :)

Scott

Thanks! That was my favorite doll...I mean Action Figure....Doctor Evil, THE original. He was/is Captain Action's enemy. And, a newer version of him is out/coming to stores.

I see you changed again, and I don't want to mess with you, MISTER SCOTT! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Yes, Scotty, I am reupping EVERYTHING, including my underwear! Hehehehehehe :)

Yes, I have also seen those types of "raids" on the small guy, making VHS and DVD copies of movies, with young Mexican kids selling them on street corners in Hollywood for 5.00 each, it boggles the imagination. If the studios would just bring out the DVD once the film leaves the theatres, like the SAME WEEK, it would cut down on a whole bunch of pirated vids, to be sure. But they still wait for months, just to get all the advanced press for the movie that they can, so they get MORE MONEY on sales! And, money is the bottom line with this life. There is so much GREED, and corruption going on, and we are all slaving each and every day, just to keep the power elite in megabucks, with their mansions and massive collection of cars, and plenty of food on the table.

FACT: the majority of America operates yearly on LESS than $16,000.00 take home pay. And the federal government just came up with a new "poverty" line, anything under 23,000 per year. Which means that most of America is living in poverty!!!!

FACT: in 2007, the America government stated that there were reportedly 3 million homeless in the states! That's 1 percent of the population! However, that's only the REPORT figure. The actual figure, according to many companies that help the homeless state that figure could be 3 or 4 times as great, since so many homeless are living off of recycling and panhandling, and not reported in any way!

It is a sad state of affairs for Americans, I can tell you. This is NOT the America that I fought in Vietnam for, that is sure!

NOW, that the VENTING is done, hehehehehe, I want to share a TREK story with you, to get things back on track, so nobody will yell at us, and claim never wanting to come back to this thread again, hehehehehe.

I just spoke with my friend "Ed" last night, who was an assistant to Gene and Majel, and was on the set during most of the STTNG filming. One day, he and another assistant named "Agusto" were bored, while filming was going on, on another part of the set, so they decided to go over and play around on the engineering set. Most of the lights were out, and so there was little to play around with, so they both decided to move over to another part of the set. When leaving, Ed noticed that one of doors was ajar, and he knew that it should have remained closed, and so he looked around for a way to close it. Normally, there was a rope on either side of the door, that a grip or someone would pull on cue, and open the door for the actor to walk thru (Hey, you've seen the bloopers!) Try as hard as he could, he just could not find any way to close this door, and so he just left it alone. While on another part of the set, he and Agusto were farting around, and decided that they would go over to the bridge set, which was located on another sound stage, so they started to walk out. From behind, they heard talking, coming towards them, so they ducked behind the fake wall of the set, and waited for the two men to pass. Looking on the inside of the wall, Ed finally found the rope to pull, to close that door! He pulled it slowly, with an effort, and slowly felt the door give way, and start to slide closed.
All of a sudden, a loud male voice yelled out "CUT!! God-damnit, whose fucking around with the doors?"!!!! Ed then realized that he was pulling the rope that controlled the engineering "warp breech containment wall", and it happened right in the middle of filming!!!! Needless to say, Ed and Agusto beat a hasty path over to Stage 9, and were sitting on the bridge when Majel walked over, looking for them! :)

Funny story.

William

Yes, Scotty, I am reupping EVERYTHING, including my underwear! Hehehehehehe :)
William

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif NO! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/flamethrower.gif


William, Good story!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

"Yes, Scotty, I am reupping EVERYTHING, including my underwear! Hehehehehehe"

Was anybody else reminded of the Nickelodeon TV show Salute Your Shorts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute_Your_Shorts)?

That's getting a little personal there, William ol' buddy.

Mark
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Yes, Scotty, I am reupping EVERYTHING, including my underwear! Hehehehehehe :)

Yes, I have also seen those types of "raids" on the small guy, making VHS and DVD copies of movies, with young Mexican kids selling them on street corners in Hollywood for 5.00 each, it boggles the imagination. If the studios would just bring out the DVD once the film leaves the theatres, like the SAME WEEK, it would cut down on a whole bunch of pirated vids, to be sure. But they still wait for months, just to get all the advanced press for the movie that they can, so they get MORE MONEY on sales! And, money is the bottom line with this life. There is so much GREED, and corruption going on, and we are all slaving each and every day, just to keep the power elite in megabucks, with their mansions and massive collection of cars, and plenty of food on the table.

FACT: the majority of America operates yearly on LESS than $16,000.00 take home pay. And the federal government just came up with a new "poverty" line, anything under 23,000 per year. Which means that most of America is living in poverty!!!!

FACT: in 2007, the America government stated that there were reportedly 3 million homeless in the states! That's 1 percent of the population! However, that's only the REPORT figure. The actual figure, according to many companies that help the homeless state that figure could be 3 or 4 times as great, since so many homeless are living off of recycling and panhandling, and not reported in any way!

It is a sad state of affairs for Americans, I can tell you. This is NOT the America that I fought in Vietnam for, that is sure!

NOW, that the VENTING is done, hehehehehe, I want to share a TREK story with you, to get things back on track, so nobody will yell at us, and claim never wanting to come back to this thread again, hehehehehe.

I just spoke with my friend "Ed" last night, who was an assistant to Gene and Majel, and was on the set during most of the STTNG filming. One day, he and another assistant named "Agusto" were bored, while filming was going on, on another part of the set, so they decided to go over and play around on the engineering set. Most of the lights were out, and so there was little to play around with, so they both decided to move over to another part of the set. When leaving, Ed noticed that one of doors was ajar, and he knew that it should have remained closed, and so he looked around for a way to close it. Normally, there was a rope on either side of the door, that a grip or someone would pull on cue, and open the door for the actor to walk thru (Hey, you've seen the bloopers!) Try as hard as he could, he just could not find any way to close this door, and so he just left it alone. While on another part of the set, he and Agusto were farting around, and decided that they would go over to the bridge set, which was located on another sound stage, so they started to walk out. From behind, they heard talking, coming towards them, so they ducked behind the fake wall of the set, and waited for the two men to pass. Looking on the inside of the wall, Ed finally found the rope to pull, to close that door! He pulled it slowly, with an effort, and slowly felt the door give way, and start to slide closed.
All of a sudden, a loud male voice yelled out "CUT!! God-damnit, whose fucking around with the doors?"!!!! Ed then realized that he was pulling the rope that controlled the engineering "warp breech containment wall", and it happened right in the middle of filming!!!! Needless to say, Ed and Agusto beat a hasty path over to Stage 9, and were sitting on the bridge when Majel walked over, looking for them! :)

Funny story.

William


Fact: When they (Government) lowers (which is backwards, and normal for Government) the poverty level we can except to have our taxes raised!

Fact: About 70 percent of the homeless want to be where they are at. The County I live in has there main health department building on our downtown mall, which to say the lest is a royal pain in the butt, we had a older gentlemen that used to come into the building to use the restrooms (which sounds normal) but he liked to use it for his own personal bathroom (shower in the sink) and used to leave a mess of water and paper towels everywhere! which could be dangerous for other people. So they would call us and we would have to walk him out of the building and tell him not to come back...you see he was homeless and used to eat out of the garbage cans behind the building and the others on the mall. After getting calls from them for several weeks, I decided to have a real conversation with him! His name was Ivan, I seat and talked with him for 20 to 30 minutes and come to find out he was a retired Major (US Army) with 20 years of service! I was floored when he told me, but come to find out Ivan wanted to be on the streets! He liked it!! this guy was paid every month, had Tri-Care (Military Heath Insurance), a house, car, everything any normal person had, but he just liked to be on the streets, eating out of trash cans, asking for money (even thou he did not need it) or to use a County building as his personal bathroom. One of the other Deputy's I worked with (when of my good friends, I was his best man at his wedding) has a younger brother that was in state prison (everyone screws up) he got parole and was released and moved in with his brother! (which is against department regulations and a really big NO NO) anyway, he had a very hard time finding a job (there are only a few company's that well help an ex-con) so he started leaving like he was going to work every morning and Greg (which is the Deputy name) was over joyed that his brother was starting to straighten his life up! or at lest that's what we thought! come to find out he had made a sign up about being homeless and was sitting on a corner, getting money from passing cars! damn if he did not make good money off that, but that was the last straw for Greg and had to kick him out of his house (you see our local PD starting moving him out of the center divider[for his safety and others] and ran his name) of course his brother got word about that and had to act or lose his job! all this just broke Greg's heart! to throw his little brother out with no were to go, but good old Steve (that's his real name) moved in with one of his sister in-laws sisters (go figure!)The last I heard Steve was back in Prison.

My hope and prayer is not to see your underwear on the re-up load list or a load in them at all ;)

Thank You for the re-up loads William!

Yeah if I had worked at Desilu I would have been walking all over those sets too! and been fired in one day.

Scott

What I mean by "Reupping my underwear" is to throw the OLD ones out, and go and buy NEW ones!!!!! Just like a NEW link for the downloads! Makes sense???? :)


GEEEEZZZ people! where are your minds at? Hehehehehehehehe :)

I know it's getting bad in here, when I have to explain my humor!

William

What I mean by "Reupping my underwear" is to throw the OLD ones out, and go and buy NEW ones!!!!! Just like a NEW link for the downloads! Makes sense???? :)


GEEEEZZZ people! where are your minds at? Hehehehehehehehe :)

I know it's getting bad in here, when I have to explain my humor!

William

We Know what you meant old friend! :)

Our minds are in the gutter lol Now move your mind out of the way so mine can go through ;)

Scott

Of course it was, I knew that, really.......you mean he was joking?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/017.gif

I have to remind you, that Vulcans don't joke.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif


P.S. What Scott said.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/devil.gif

Okay, now that THAT is cleared up, everybody.................... CHECK YOUR UNDERWEAR!!! Hehehehehehehehe :)


(I'm a little devil!)

William

FYI....I just tried to download a file from Hotfile and it appears Hotfile has gone the way of megashare! shut down by order of a Federal Court order.


Scott

FYI....I just tried to download a file from Hotfile and it appears Hotfile has gone the way of megashare! shut down by order of a Federal Court order.


Scott

Link to a news story: Hotfile to pay Hollywood studios $80m damages in filesharing settlement | Technology | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/04/hotfile-hollywood-filesharing-damages-mpaa)

Mark
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The movie industry would have plenty of money, if they stop putting out crap in the theaters/cinema. Who wants to pay for that stuff.

The movie industry would have plenty of money, if they stop putting out crap in the theaters/cinema. Who wants to pay for that stuff.

Oh so true my friend! William your not included in that statement.

Scott

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Okay, now that THAT is cleared up, everybody.................... CHECK YOUR UNDERWEAR!!! Hehehehehehehehe :)


(I'm a little devil!)

William

Underwear Check Sir! looking down, pulling pants down...Scotty is going commando Sir! ;)

Scott

Oh so true my friend! William your not included in that statement.

Scott

I forgot that William is in the Industry, and I was not trying to offend William......PLEASE FORGIVE ME!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/tears8.gif

I don't need to check underwear status, as while I am home I do not wear it (or anything else for that matter)

Scotty: that was just WAY too much information. I'll have a HELL of a time getting that visual out of my mind, hehehehehehe :)

AZ: Nothing to forgive, since the comment was not aimed at ME! I would love to give a swift kick in the pants (underwear or no) to the person(s) that it was aimed at, hehehehehe

Amanda: you walk around your home in the BUFF??? Now I know why they call you MOON Goddess, hehehhehehehe

William

Does anyone have a good copy of "Valandran Circle" (track 16 from the ST:E "Similitude" soundtrack)? My copy has a lot of audio breaks and stutters for some reason. Thanks.

I don't need to check underwear status, as while I am home I do not wear it (or anything else for that matter)

Lets hope it's not chilly where you live...could get a bit nipply! :)

Scott

Hi. I just got my copy this morning. LaLaLand has done a great job in remastering this beautiful. All the blaster effects have a powerful feel to them compared to all the other ST TMP soundtracks that I heard.

Here are some links to the Flac copy of the soundtrack. I have no plans to re-upload the files in the event that they are pulled, so grab them while you can.

Conceder this an incentive to buy the soundtrack if you enjoy it.

The password is �rectorium�.

Now I really need to get some rest.


Disc 1 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150021/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150113/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (peejeshare) (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362150184/Columbus3.rar.html)

Disc 1 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18295184/Columbus1.rar.html)
Disc 2 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297641/Columbus2.rar.html)
Disc 3 (rapidgator) (http://rapidgator.net/file/18297947/Columbus3.rar.html)
Hi,
I'm new here and came across this site while searching for this soundtrack. Could someone please repost the 3 disc Motion Picture LaLa Land release? Thank you very much!

Hello, Hank, and welcome to the board. If you read thru some of the posts, you will find some new links for this. Also check page one, post one, there may be some links there also that you can use!

William

Here's a new link for the ST2 LALALAND special edition:

Link REVOKED

William

I recently posted a custom cover for The Ron Jones project. In that post I mentioned that I modified a cover art I found elsewhere but didn't know the original creator. I believe I can now state (and give appropriate credit to) a chap named Robert Oliver, who has a number of alternate cover offerings available in his public Skydrive folder (https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=9E3D126A243CC676&id=9E3D126A243CC676!3266#cid=9E3D126A243CC676&id=9E3D126A243CC676!1716). Thanks Robert. Now, if you'd only post the original PSD and font files you used in creating the original of the file I commandeered.

Some very nice covers, I just don't like any of the DS9 covers, nor the originals. He should have tried something totally new and cutting edge on the graphics. Same with the Voyager and Enterprise covers. But the TOS stuff was really great.

William

STAR TREK: NEMESIS is finally coming soon as an OFFICIALLY EXPANDED title through the Varese CD Club.

Official announcement should be December 9th (tomorrow)

Love, love, LOVE Rob Oliver's covers, Alaska! Been using his TOS ones ever since last year's TOS LalaLand release. Would love to see what he does with a shiny new ST: Nemesis cover. ;)

Veri!


I recently posted a custom cover for The Ron Jones project. In that post I mentioned that I modified a cover art I found elsewhere but didn't know the original creator. I believe I can now state (and give appropriate credit to) a chap named Robert Oliver, who has a number of alternate cover offerings available in his public Skydrive folder (https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=9E3D126A243CC676&id=9E3D126A243CC676!3266#cid=9E3D126A243CC676&id=9E3D126A243CC676!1716). Thanks Robert. Now, if you'd only post the original PSD and font files you used in creating the original of the file I commandeered.

Love, love, LOVE Rob Oliver's covers, Alaska! Been using his TOS ones ever since last year's TOS LalaLand release. Would love to see what he does with a shiny new ST: Nemesis cover. ;)

Veri!Yes, he has some nice ones, but I also agree with William that I don't care for all of his designs. But tastes vary, which it's nice to have options.

STAR TREK NEMESIS: The Deluxe Edition
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Music Composed and Conducted by Jerry Goldsmith
2 CDs

It was, sadly, one of Jerry Goldsmith’s last film scores. Only Timeline and Looney Tunes: Back In Action (both 2003) would follow it. In 2002 Jerry Goldsmith took his final voyage on the fabled USS Enterprise and gave Star Trek Nemesis and the whole Next Generation crew an epic send-off.

This is the release so many Star Trek fans have been waiting for. Goldsmith’s complete score from Star Trek Nemesis is presented, along with a set of bonus tracks that includes source music, a set of alternate cues and mixes, plus a rare opportunity to listen in to the final moments of Jerry Goldsmith on the Star Trek scoring stage with his orchestra and director Stuart Baird.

In the wake of a joyful wedding between Riker (Jonathan Frakes) and Troi (Marina Sirtis), Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) receives another reason to celebrate: the Romulans want peace and the captain will be the Federation's emissary. But as the Enterprise heads toward the Romulan Empire, a brilliant villain awaits — harboring a diabolical plan of destruction and an unimaginable secret that will give Picard his most fearsome challenge.

We’re very excited to mark the return of the Var�se Sarabande CD Club with this historic and important Jerry Goldsmith release.

CDs will begin shipping the week of January 6.

Limited Edition of 5000 copies

Price: $24.98

DISC ONE
1. Remus* (2:01)
2. The Box (2:21)
3. My Right Arm (1:04)
4. Star Field** / Positronic Signal (1:57)
5. The Argo (1:17)
6. Odds And Ends (4:39)
7. Your Brother / Course Plotted** (2:07)
8. Repairs** (6:27)
9. The Knife (3:10)
10. Perfect Timing / Allegiance (2:21)
11. Secrets (1:28)
12. The Mine (1:30)
13. Ideals (2:16)
14. Options (0:55)
15. Bed Time / Transport (1:38)
16. Blood Test (1:23)
17. The Mirror (5:23)
18. The Scorpion** (2:24)
19. His Plans / Data & B-4 (2:39)
20. Battle Stations** (2:40)
21. Attack Pattern (2:22)
22. The Invitation / True Nature / Let’s Go To Work (4:38)
23. Lateral Run (3:55)
24. The Viceroy (:20)

DISC TWO
1. Engage (2:14)
2. Full Reverse (1:41)
3. Not Functional (2:54)
4. Final Flight (3:49)
5. Firing Sequence (:54)
6. A New Friend (2:38)
7. That Song** / An Honor (1:24)
8. A New Ending*†** (8:30)

Source Music:
9. Riker’s Strut #1 (Mike Lang) (1:07)
10. Riker’s Strut #2 (Mike Lang) (1:09)
11. Blue Skies† (Vocal By Brent Spiner) (3:17)
12. Blue Skies† (Instrumental) (2:37)

Additional Music:
13. Secrets (Alternate Mix) (1:29)
14. The Mine (Alternate) (1:33)
15. Options (Alternate) (:57)
16. Options (Alternate Mix) (:58)
17. Data & B-4 (Alternate) (1:39)
18. Battle Stations** (Alternate Mix) (2:44)
19. Attack Pattern (Alternate Mix) (2:24)
20. True Nature (Alternate Mix) (1:30)
21. A New Ending*†** (Alternate) (6:11)
22. Director And Composer (2:35)

(the * and † don't have any specific indicators on the original information page as to what these are credited for)

Lessons learned, Varese? I love the fact it looks like we're going to be getting everything with Nemesis. I hope they treat STID like this, and I lament that they haven't given some other popular scores to this treatment (I'm thinking 2009 and The Matrix).

Now, if only LALALAND would come out with all the EXTRA TOS music and unused stuff that has been gathering dust for over 40 years!

William

Here's a new link for the ST2 LALALAND special edition:

LInk Removed

William

I'm confused, STTMP was not FSM?

Now, if only LALALAND would come out with all the EXTRA TOS music and unused stuff that has been gathering dust for over 40 years!

William

I'm sure they will William, but not in our life time....the chintzy bastards!

Scott

Here's a new link for the ST2 LALALAND special edition:

LInk Removed

William



I'm confused, STTMP was not FSM?

STTMP = LaLaLand Records LLLCD 1207 (2012, 3 CD Box, Limited Edition)

ST2 (Wrath of Khan) special edition = Retrograde/FSM Records FSM-80128-2 (2009), NOT LaLaLand, therefore "link removed"

BTW, nice try, William! :)

Sorry to ask another stupid question (Hey, I think it's my first one in THIS particular thread! :-D), but does anyone have active links to the TAS music & SFX that was posted a couple of years back? I recently had a data disaster and lost ALL of my soundtracks from my backups, and I'm slowly rebuilding my collection. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Cheers,
Kevin

Sorry to ask another stupid question (Hey, I think it's my first one in THIS particular thread! :-D), but does anyone have active links to the TAS music & SFX that was posted a couple of years back? I recently had a data disaster and lost ALL of my soundtracks from my backups, and I'm slowly rebuilding my collection. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Cheers,
Kevin

I know how you feel Kevin! my NAS (with 2 3 terabit HD's) went up in smoke (literally) and took over 4 thousand albums with it. I would check page one (in this thread) William was kind enough to re-up a boat load of his personal soundtracks. I hope you find what your looking for.

BTW it's not a stupid question.

Scott

Some very nice covers, I just don't like any of the DS9 covers, nor the originals. He should have tried something totally new and cutting edge on the graphics. Same with the Voyager and Enterprise covers. But the TOS stuff was really great.

William

Agreed: his "ship" covers for the 15-disc TOS box are awesome: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=9E3D126A243CC676&id=9E3D126A243CC676%211716#cid=9E3D126A243CC676&id=9E3D126A243CC676%213356

Well, I guess that I really am getting older! Harumph! I thought that was a LALALAND release, not FSM! Oh, well, if anyone wants to "talk" to me about it, they can always just PM me! Hehehehehe :)

Sorry about that, Chief! I was not trying to pull anything over on anyone!

William

I too, have join the CRASH AND BURN CLUB with the loss of my Hard Drive and .......everything.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/tears8.gif

I have been trying to replace some of the soundtracks, but, with my http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thunhappy.gif Dial-up, I have only made it to around 95% then http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif it stopped. I will keep trying.

As for my quest for DSL, I was told no slots in my area, but, I will keep calling, just in case.

Well, I guess that I really am getting older! Harumph! I thought that was a LALALAND release, not FSM! Oh, well, if anyone wants to "talk" to me about it, they can always just PM me! Hehehehehe :)

Sorry about that, Chief! I was not trying to pull anything over on anyone!

William

Still moving a bit slow but should anyone wanna talk about a Pristine version of Khan in it's natural state, I might be able to manage that conversation.