Ah....I remember the two Star Trek series created by the great Gene Roddenberry, which I have fond memories of and love. It is a shame that Star Trek is dead. The evil Klingon Rick Berman, that was banished for his dishonor of the Legend of Star Trek, and the Romulan reject JJ Abrams that twisted the rest of the Legend into twisted nothingness, is the cause of the death. May we http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif, is our thoughts of this great series, as that is all we have, along with the DVDs, and fan films.


Gene Roddenberry was Star Trek.



BOYCOTT THE IMPOSTOR MOVIE!


Already done.


My favorite British Comedy is Are You Being Served?...I'm free!

Ask Pcm. He might be free! Only joking, Pcm.

The Young Ones - Whistling on a Tuesday clip Jesters Torture Hour - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxxCvONf3H4)

LLAP

Thanks for the correction about The Great Bird of the Galaxy, I'm shamed.

My favorite British comedies were...Faulty Towers, Blackadder and Red Dwarf. :)

BOYCOTT THE IMPOSTOR MOVIE!

Pretty sure that i'll be first in line to watch the movie!

I will be listening to how much Iwataki influences the score of the film.

Language is always changing... all of them. Spanish is "controlled" by the Real Academia Espa�ola (Real Academy of Spain, sort of) and a few years back they decided to drop the letter "ll" (yes, two "l"s, was actually a letter for us), even if there are many words that use that letter: lluvia (rain), llaves (keys), etc. And they have an ongoing argument about the letter "�", which the first Commodore and PC keyboards didn't have back in the eighties. Anyway, the spanish language have been influenced or corrupted (depends on the speaker) by English that, as Scotty points out quite correctly, is our Esperanto. We say, here in Argentina at least -in Spain is different-, "living" for living room, "PC" for Personal Computers (in Spain is "ordenadores", that to us is quite funny and kind of backward), and of course Star Trek is Star Trek (not quite, actually is "Viaje a las estrellas", that literally would be "Trek to the stars", or "Journey to the stars... ah traduttore, tradittore).

And don't get me started on SMS abbreviations...

Well, enough rant about this. Sountrekker maybe would like to add his two German cents :).

All I wanted to know if "disc" or "disk" is the proper British spelling. Didn't mean to create such contention.... :)

I am not a Berman fan (I'm a Ira Behr fan however), but I think that the Berman-Piller team was the no. 1 cause for improvement in TNG. And DS9 was a great gamble at the time, and they stick to the premise (thanks to Behr) and expanded... something they didn't have the guts to do on Voyager (understandable, perhaps, since it was a network show, instead of being in syndication, so the suit were breathing in their necks). Enterprise was Braga being Braga and Berman was (I speak in past tense since he's not producing anymore) a fine line producer, but without Piller, Behr or even Taylor running the writing staff, he was lost. And when Manny Coto apperared all was lost.

Regarding the movies and a new series... ultimately it doesn't matter what we think about the movies, the only thing important is the box office. Was First Contact better than Insurrection? Most of the people seems to think so but I like Insurrection better. Nonetheless FC was a comercial success and Insurrection wasn't. So, the first Abramsverse ST was a huge box-office hit, and if this new one scores as well, we will have another film and maybe a series. Set on the Abramsverse? Who knows. It makes business sense. What I would like? Ron Moore, any day. Back to Braga, he was interested in telling "cool" stories, with "cool" concepts.... whereas Moore was interested in telling "cool" Star Trek stories. One is a fan, the other isn't. And that shows.

As an Englishman , William ... I could never understand why Benny Hill was popular over the pond , I never liked him at all , I hope all americans dont think we are all like Benny Hill we actually are more like Austin powers ( with bad teeth and all that ... ;-) ) Its funny you know , I have been to the US on a few occasions ... LA SF and NYC and a lot of Americans are mad about the Royal Family ... when most people over here couldnt care less !!! Also Scottyys point about differences in languageis amusing .... the word SPUNK is actually the slang word for SEMEN in the UK !! and the word WANKER is slang for masturbation !!! That is why the composer Thomas Wanker changed his name to Thomas Wander ...

I should have added "Not literally" lol as I understood it Wanker is slang for *ucker as well...go figure! Spunk was used for slang for semen here too, but when I was a teenager, thou it has fallen out of use today. The reason they were pissed about the Royal Family is probably because of Charles cheating on Diana and just the low down dirty way he treated her! we hold our Government Officials to a higher standard here and would impeach them and throw them out of office for doing the same thing. Benny Hill was diffidently new to American TV! his comedy show was so different, compared to our comedians (not to say ours are bad) but the routine's he did with Jackie Wright, always slapping him on the head just cracked me up!! I think that is why he was so popular here at lest for me.

Scott

Pretty sure that i'll be first in line to watch the movie!

Traitor! You call yourself a Star Wars fan.:)

Johnson: This book, sir, contains every word in our beloved language!
Blackadder: Oh well in that case, sir, I hope you will not object if I also offer the doctor my most enthusiastic contrafibularities.

"I'll be back before you can say disestablishmentarianism."

Imperial is based on Roman measurement units. A milestone was placed every thousand paces. Pounds are represented by lb from libra. Metric is scientific in that it has well defined parameters for establishing each unit of measurement and allows the use of the decimal point making calculations more easily integrateable into matrices - handy in the new age of computing. As it was used by astrophysicists I'm guessing this is why Roddenberry wanted it. But I'm sure they mixed both in the series. Just don't get me started on the ever changing warp factor scale - they don't know their a'hole from their elbow.

Personally that is one of the greatest things about America and England, we have both used a conglomerate of languages, Idioms and Phrases, and measurements from several civilizations in our country's long histories: Roman, Latin, Greek, German, Spanish (Castilian, not gutter Spanish) that we well continue to go forward into a bright future.

LOOOL a'hole from their elbow!! good one :)

Scott

All I wanted to know if "disc" or "disk" is the proper British spelling. Didn't mean to create such contention.... :)

No contention at all!! either will work my friend...as I understand it Disc (Compact disc) is used for CD-ROM, DVD medium and Disk (Diskette) was used for 5 1/4 inch floppy, 3 1/2 inch floppy.

Scott

Traitor! You call yourself a Star Wars fan.:)

Phasers set to full power Sir!! :)

Scott

I should have added "Not literally" lol as I understood it Wanker is slang for *ucker as well...go figure! Spunk was used for slang for semen here too, but when I was a teenager, thou it has fallen out of use today. The reason they were pissed about the Royal Family is probably because of Charles cheating on Diana and just the low down dirty way he treated her! we hold our Government Officials to a higher standard here and would impeach them and throw them out of office for doing the same thing. Benny Hill was diffidently new to American TV! his comedy show was so different, compared to our comedians (not to say ours are bad) but the routine's he did with Jackie Wright, always slapping him on the head just cracked me up!! I think that is why he was so popular here at lest for me.
Scott

There's a pile of crap British comedies, but personally I liked Benny Hill. His show was one of the best on tv at the time like the others mentioned in this forum, and some sketches are quite funny even today. I especially like the one where he's dressed as a woman (wey-hay) and answering a string of questions, but his answers get out of synch with hilarious consequences - I'm not being sarcastic. I didn't know he was short with the public. Still, could have been something far worse!

Scott, you raise something here that should be of great concern to everyone. If you've never heard of Chris Everard, pop over to this free mp3 archive of some of the radio shows he's been on. It's the red pill. PrometheanReach Archive (http://www.prometheanreach.com/chriseverard)

Well I'm interested in hearing Giacchino's second try at Trek. His first score was about 95% crap, but I think it was JJ interfering. It just never got anywhere, and the "heroic" theme was underdevelopend and in a minor key. Come on! I know he's got better stuff in him, because I've heard John Carter, and that was brilliant. That approached Rozsa levels of brilliance. So hopefully he will have actually developed some themes and leitmotifs instead of just doing funky percussion and electronica-infused generic action cues.

Scotty:

Full power? Well, then FIRE that nasty bugger! :)

And, any new TREK film by JJ will have to be continued from the point of a alternate universe TREK. It would be like Doc and Marty continuing in the alternate 1985, without going back to the real BTTF universe. If we want the true, original TREK, we have to GO BACK, not forward.

William

For all of Star Trek's messages about diversity, tolerance and expanding knowledge, it's the biggest irony of ironies and probably a proven fact at this point, that the majority of Star Trek FANS are easily among the most closed (narrow) minded, prejudicial fans of any subject there is. Whether its reading pages of this thread or sampling the literally millions of threads like this one on any other random messageboard, that irony is all-too clear and obvious. No wonder "Trekkies" are looked down on.

-Any Trek where Gene Roddenberry wasn't directly involved isn't considered "real"
-Anything Roddenberry might've disagreed with or objected to is looked down on by the fans because his opinion was the only one that mattered.
-If you like the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies then you aren't a "true fan" (which is the most asinine, arrogant piece of dog shit anyone can say about fandom, because NO ONE is an authority on what makes a "true fan" of anything regardless of what it is)
-DS9 was a betrayal of Trek and also falls into the category above of not being "real" Star Trek

And the list goes on from there.

Narrow-to-closed minded, prejudicial against anything diverse, holding onto a nearly 50 year old canceled TV show's ideals refusing to accept anything that comes after it because change and evolution must be opposed....goes against ALL of Star Trek's most basic principles, all of which established on that nearly 50 year old canceled TV show.

But then again its fans don't live in the 23rd or 24th centuries, do they?

@JHFan

actually I tend to agree to the general line you express.
On the other hand, maybe being a "Fan" of something automatically makes you a bit less tolerant.

I am not quite able to understand the distinctions between true fans and Fans and why it is not ok to like the new movie or DS9.

I am a true fan of IDIC :D

hence I like all Trek. Period.
(even the german satire "Traumschiff Surprise")

I like the new movie(s) as well. A lot.

I have my preferences too. I like them all, some less, some more.
My favorite was TNG, but I watched and liked them all, including Voyager, DS9, Enterprise.

Then again, IDIC will include the idea of people excluding ideas. ;)

Yes!

Preferences are great, it's the arrogance associated with looking down on other forms JUST because it's not from the same person (Roddenberry) or if it's just plain different. Its seen as a betrayal or a bastardization. I didn't like the latter seasons of Voyager because it was a betrayal of its own core concept established in its first episodes of being alone with limited resources, but not a betrayal or bastardization of Star Trek itself. It had poor writing, but was just as valid as any other form of Trek.

The merits of the writing and ideas proposed are thrown out because if it's different than it's not legitimate, and that's where the problem lies.

people (maybe sentient beings in general?) need ideas/groups to identify, and that always includes borderlines, some lime that says: this belongs to us, this one does not. This seems to give some feeling of safety.
On the one hand, internet, which makes the world small, and all are part of one large group, is just not enough. even star trek fans need to have the chance to form different small groups that passionately dislike each other.
this seems to be something that has not changed, looking back in time...

Which is why it's so ironic considering Star Trek's core messages and principles. It's both sad and stupid. No wonder they set those shows hundreds of years into the future. Humanity has a ways to go if it can't even embrace diversity and keep an open mind about a series of shows that teach humanity to embrace diversity and keep an open mind.

Phasers set to full power Sir!! :)
Scott


Be sure to use a Varon-T disruptor.

Scotty:

Full power? Well, then FIRE that nasty bugger! :)

And, any new TREK film by JJ will have to be continued from the point of a alternate universe TREK. It would be like Doc and Marty continuing in the alternate 1985, without going back to the real BTTF universe. If we want the true, original TREK, we have to GO BACK, not forward.

William

They really got themselves onto that slippery slope - and it's a car crash in slow motion.

JHFan, Sorei, I heartily agree with all you've said above.

I said before I wasn't a Berman fan but I do recognize that he gave us three new Strar Trek series, four movies, and he -along with Piller- got TNG really into a great level of storytelling.

We have to love what we've got. And yes, I am not fond of JJ but I will be seeing the movies, because I love Star Trek, I love the characters, and I don't think that the 2009 movie is crap: revitalized the whole concept for new generations, and that really needed to be done.

No contention at all!! either will work my friend...as I understand it Disc (Compact disc) is used for CD-ROM, DVD medium and Disk (Diskette) was used for 5 1/4 inch floppy, 3 1/2 inch floppy.

Scott

The floppy started out as 8" (wey-hay) believe it or not.

JHFan, Sorei, I heartily agree with all you've said above.


:)
i admit i was afraid noone of this thread would ever talk to us again ;)

(No worries, William, this is a joke)

we came rushing in, interrupting a chat of old friends, started ranting, rushed out again.
Maybe Spock would have said: "Fascinating"....maybe not :D

you are courageous to admit you like the 2009 movie! ;)

actually i hope they will make a new TOS series based on the 2009 movie...

(shall i be prepared to get shot now?)

Gene Roddenberry was Star Trek.



Already done.



Ask Pcm. He might be free! Only joking, Pcm.

The Young Ones - Whistling on a Tuesday clip Jesters Torture Hour - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxxCvONf3H4)

LLAP

You cheeky whatsit, I'll set young mister grace on you. The Young Ones was another of my absolute favorites. "Pollution all around, sometimes up, sometimes down, but always around. Pollution, are you coming to my town? Or am I coming to yours? Ha! We're on different buses, pollution! But we're both using petrol! BOMBS!

I'm enjoying all Star Trek myself. Being a Doctor Who fan, I am maybe guilty of of this, not liking some changes, and moaning a little (not as much as some though). But as a Trek fan from TNG on, I enjoyed it all, and (please don't set phasers to kill) I liked the 2009 movie as well. It was far better than some other sci fi movies.

Sorei, I also would like to see a series based on the 2009 trek movie, I always like any alternate universe stuff, I have alot of novels based on alternate history, I forget the author's name, but he is great.

@ William it's all scifi anyway, they can just have old spock and young spock meld together, and correct the timeline, LOL

@scoregeek

there are some fantastic novels set in alternative universe, agreed, i have them as ebook, they are some of the best i have read.

funny i quote myself below. I just learned that "beaming" came to Star Trek because they couldn't afford the special effects to have the Enterprise land on a planet. Interesting ...


Perhaps this is something JJ Abrams should take note of ... :/


Steven Spielberg: I think that CG is a tool that often becomes a weapon of self-destruction. I certainly have done my share of CG since I was at the forefront of the revolution as a producer of YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES, that had the first CG shot ever, and then JURASSIC PARK that the first CG characters ever. Jim Cameron in-between did brilliant CG work on THE ABYSS and then T2�
I�ve actually suffered from the wealth of riches that CG can give a filmmaker to almost over use the technology to get everything out of our brains and on to the screen when sometimes what�s fun is being denied your best ideas and then you�ve got to fall back on a compromise, which often turns out to be an even better idea. I fall victim to that, too.

Mirror Universe ... And, We might have seen what mirror Borg were like... :)

here you go :D

Sesame Street: The Martians Discover a Telephone - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTc3PsW5ghQ)

My favorite British comedies were...Faulty Towers, Blackadder and Red Dwarf. :)

Yes Minister, Keeping Up Appearances, Smith and Jones :)

(No worries, William, this is a joke)

you are courageous to admit you like the 2009 movie! ;)

(shall i be prepared to get shot now?)


(please don't set phasers to kill) I liked the 2009 movie as well.

I know you're both just joking, but that you felt you had to make such jokes proves my point, especially if you believe certain fans would resort to looking down on you for liking something they don't.

In a mirror darkly is cool. And really has no place in the Enterprise time-line as we never see the "regular" universe at all. I do not see how Voyager would do a crossover with TOS though. Too far away. But a mirror Voyager, wreaking havoc and destruction as it does ANYTHING needed to survive and get home would be cool. And, We might have seen what mirror Borg were like... :)

resistance in that case would be just as futile (because they are so lovely) so int he end the outcome might not change that much :D

In all fairness, the Star Wars fans really hate Lucas for the first three episodes, they feel that it was not true star wars. All over the net, they are ragging on him for that.

Sorei, sweetie, nobody would ever look down on you for liking the 2009 movie, they would have to answer to ME!!! heheheehhehehe :)

And, I always know when you are joking, no worries.

William

In all fairness, the Star Wars fans really hate Lucas for the first three episodes, they feel that it was not true star wars. All over the net, they are ragging on him for that.

Apparently that is one of the reason why Lucas sold out to Disney...he could not win the fight for his own creation.

Scott

And, I always know when you are joking, no worries.


i think i finally feel better and this really bad streps infection is going away. so: i feel like joking again ;)

I'm enjoying all Star Trek myself. Being a Doctor Who fan, I am maybe guilty of of this, not liking some changes, and moaning a little (not as much as some though). But as a Trek fan from TNG on, I enjoyed it all, and (please don't set phasers to kill) I liked the 2009 movie as well. It was far better than some other sci fi movies.

Still doesn't match up to Plan 9 From Outer Space [tongue in cheek] or the opening to Star Trek The Motion Picture where we had a black screen for 2 and a half minutes with some music. You can't beat a black screen, but apparently you can! The Special Edition of about 10 years ago has had the black screen replaced with a star field. I'm off to watch Bablyon 5. That universe isn't giving me a headache.

There's a pile of crap British comedies, but personally I liked Benny Hill. His show was one of the best on tv at the time like the others mentioned in this forum, and some sketches are quite funny even today. I especially like the one where he's dressed as a woman (wey-hay) and answering a string of questions, but his answers get out of synch with hilarious consequences - I'm not being sarcastic. I didn't know he was short with the public. Still, could have been something far worse!

Scott, you raise something here that should be of great concern to everyone. If you've never heard of Chris Everard, pop over to this free mp3 archive of some of the radio shows he's been on. It's the red pill. PrometheanReach Archive (http://www.prometheanreach.com/chriseverard)

Thank You! I am looking forward to listening to his show!! truth is never wrong!!!

Scott

I'm off to watch Bablyon 5.

ohhhhh i LOVE B5!!! enjoy :)

(i will go watch csi before going to bed, always nice to have a solid serial murder to get in the right mood for sleeping)

funny i quote myself below. I just learned that "beaming" came to Star Trek because they couldn't afford the special effects to have the Enterprise land on a planet. Interesting ...

I heard that years ago, but wondered if it was true. They had a shuttle which they used on occasion, and teleportation was all the rage in sci-fi shows. I believe it was used as a mechanism whereby the story can be told without clumsy interference of having to get in and out shuttles all day.

The Sesame Street clip is gold.

ohhhhh i LOVE B5!!! enjoy :)

(i will go watch csi before going to bed, always nice to have a solid serial murder to get in the right mood for sleeping)

Watched the first season after years just last month. I dunno. Many dialogues and story complications are SOOOOOOO stupid. But you ought to love the characters!!!
In think i only know the first two seasons of B5 so i got still alot to this discover next halve year, yay!

Scotty:

Full power? Well, then FIRE that nasty bugger! :)

And, any new TREK film by JJ will have to be continued from the point of a alternate universe TREK. It would be like Doc and Marty continuing in the alternate 1985, without going back to the real BTTF universe. If we want the true, original TREK, we have to GO BACK, not forward.

William

Firing all Phasers banks Sir!! Photon Torpedo's armed and ready!, Shields are holding steady at 100 percent.

Unfortunately the Trek we know and love is dead! Paramount and JJ have made sure of that, now all we have is whiz bang cgi and no real human adventure story.

Scott

ohhhhh i LOVE B5!!! enjoy :)

(i will go watch csi before going to bed, always nice to have a solid serial murder to get in the right mood for sleeping)

I never get tired of watching B5 either :)

Scott

Be sure to use a Varon-T disruptor.

Unfortunately it is banned in the Federation....unless someone has one I can barrow? and the Captain will look the other way!

Scott

The floppy started out as 8" (wey-hay) believe it or not.

I know, I used to work with them, but I did not mention them because it might confuse the younger ones among us, who have no idea what a floppy disk is.

Scott

it might confuse the younger ones among us, who have no idea what a floppy disk is.

Scott

a floppy disk NOT a disk with upgrades for colour change, coming along with flip-flops?

:P

(serial murder commercial break)

Still doesn't match up to Plan 9 From Outer Space [tongue in cheek] or the opening to Star Trek The Motion Picture where we had a black screen for 2 and a half minutes with some music. You can't beat a black screen, but apparently you can! The Special Edition of about 10 years ago has had the black screen replaced with a star field. I'm off to watch Bablyon 5. That universe isn't giving me a headache.
I managed to pick up the whole series of Babylon 5 on DVD from a second hand DVDF/Blu-Ray store (C-EX) for just under �23. So I have those to watch at some stage. I also picked up for �8 the entire RoboCop TV series. I've never seen it, but was interested in seeing what it was about. Does anyone have any opinions on this series?

EDIT

Just took down the RoboCop discs and I made a mistake. They didn't cost me �8 the 6 disc set only cost me �4.

I see a couple of http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif here. :)

Y'all have your views and I have mine. When STNG was announced, I was excited because it was Gene doing it, but mostly a new 1701 and crew.
The new movies are a bastardizing of the original. Why Kirk and crew? Because they are well known, just like New Voyages/Phase II, go with well know characters.
I want to see a new 1701, in the future, beyond STNG, not a rehash of...been there, done that. Enterprise was to be before Kirk, so it should have been showing
what was mentioned in the history on TOS and expand on it, not re-write the history, like what George did with Star Wars.

I like all of the series and movies called Star Trek, except 2009, because they mostly had good stories. DS9, Voyager and Enterprise, will alway be good sci-fi to me, but not Star Trek. Only the 1701 and new crews will be Star Trek to me, because the Enterprise is the star of the series as Kirk and Picard said...these are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. When the Lone Gunmen spun off from The X-Files, I never considered it X-Files, just because of the tie in to the series, and the same for DS9 and Voyager to Star Trek.

I managed to pick up the whole series of Babylon 5 on DVD from a second hand DVDF/Blu-Ray store (C-EX) for just under �23. So I have those to watch at some stage. I also picked up for �8 the entire RoboCop TV series. I've never seen it, but was interested in seeing what it was about. Does anyone have any opinions on this series?

Which one? Babylon 5, RoboCop or both?

I have nothing to say about Babylon 5. Never watched it, never will. Have absolutely no interest in that show whatsoever. Obviously others here have said they love it so they can chime in much easier.

RoboCop was obviously a much more family-friendly show than the original film, yet at the same time completely loyal to it. All of th excessive violence was toned down for TV audiences, but the social satire and loyalty to the character of Murphy was very strong. Murphy himself was very well developed and three-dimensional, and his family which was only hinted at in the films were also developed. It doesn't get a lot of credit (just a lot of criticism) but it was loyal to the concept and executed well. The effects were good, the suit and prosthetics for Murphy were just as good as in the films. Toronto-as-Detroit / Delta City was funny to me, since I grew up in Toronto so I recognized a lot of it.

a floppy disk NOT a disk with upgrades for colour change, coming along with flip-flops?

:P

(serial murder commercial break) <---Nothing like a good who-done-it!!

LOL Loved it when it went to Double Sided, Double Density!! man was I stepping in high cotton then! :)

Scott

I see a couple of http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/redshirt.gif here. :)
Enterprise was to be before Kirk, so it should have been showing what was mentioned in the history on TOS and expand on it, not re-write the history, like what George did with Star Wars.

Go ahead and "fire". Just proves my point.

I do however COMPLETELY, UTTERLY and TOTALLY agree with you about "Enterprise", which is why after the first few episodes I completely tuned out and walked away from Trek. I only saw bits and pieces of it through UPN promos. Ferengi, Borg, and newly-created species were a tell-tale sign that the writers followed the same path as Voyager: A betrayal of its own concept. The idea was to exist within the confines of what was established on the original series, and TNG-era aliens should never have been a part of it.

I managed to pick up the whole series of Babylon 5 on DVD from a second hand DVDF/Blu-Ray store (C-EX) for just under �23. So I have those to watch at some stage. I also picked up for �8 the entire RoboCop TV series. I've never seen it, but was interested in seeing what it was about. Does anyone have any opinions on this series?

Bloody Hell!! and I paid something like $200.00 for the whole series...enough to make a grown man cry! oh well, in the end it was worth it. Never had the chance to see RoboCop TV show, Pearl let me know if it is worth seeing?

Scott

Which one? Babylon 5, RoboCop or both?

I have nothing to say about Babylon 5. Never watched it, never will. Have absolutely no interest in that show whatsoever. Obviously others here have said they love it so they can chime in much easier.

RoboCop was obviously a much more family-friendly show than the original film, yet at the same time completely loyal to it. All of th excessive violence was toned down for TV audiences, but the social satire and loyalty to the character of Murphy was very strong. Murphy himself was very well developed and three-dimensional, and his family which was only hinted at in the films were also developed. It doesn't get a lot of credit (just a lot of criticism) but it was loyal to the concept and executed well. The effects were good, the suit and prosthetics for Murphy were just as good as in the films. Toronto-as-Detroit / Delta City was funny to me, since I grew up in Toronto so I recognized a lot of it.

It was an opinion on RoboCop, which you gave me, so thank you. I will sit down and watch it one day. I also have the mini series of RoboCop or was it 4 TV Movies"Dark Justice" "Meltdown" "Resurrection" and "Crash & Burn". I've watched the first two and they were very good indeed, well, at least I think they were.

Still I have enterprise to watch first, and I've found a place I can download them at 720p, they will replace a set of much lower quality ones I had from elsewhere. Happy days :)

PCM

Bloody Hell!! and I paid something like $200.00 for the whole series...enough to make a grown man cry! oh well, in the end it was worth it. Never had the chance to see RoboCop TV show, Pearl let me know if it is worth seeing?

Scott

Well yours would have been new, mine were second hand. It seems since Blu-Ray has come onto the scene the price of second hand DVD has fallen through the floor, Oh apart from Classic Doctor Who which are still stupid money (ie only a couple of quid less than new), but I suppose that's because the classic stuff is not available on Blu-Ray.

Re RoboCop, The Mini Series/ TV Movies are good, well the first two are, I can't say anything about the last two as I have not watched them. Those were a real bargin. They were a box set on two double sided discs. I picked them up from a carboot fair for 50 pence.

I managed to pick up the whole series of Babylon 5 on DVD from a second hand DVDF/Blu-Ray store (C-EX) for just under �23. So I have those to watch at some stage. I also picked up for �8 the entire RoboCop TV series. I've never seen it, but was interested in seeing what it was about. Does anyone have any opinions on this series?

I truly enjoyed Babylon 5 as a series whole. The arc was enough to keep you interested and most of the 'stand-alone' stories were fun. The motorcycle scene still makes me laugh when I see it.

In regards to the RoboCop TV series, it was as good as it could be considering the constraints that they had to work within for viewing audiences. I would suggest as a followup/alternative to the TV series would be the RoboCop Prime Directives series of TV movies that were done. They essentially take place after the second film and ignore the Jetpack RoboCop of Part 3.

I truly enjoyed Babylon 5 as a series whole. The arc was enough to keep you interested and most of the 'stand-alone' stories were fun. The motorcycle scene still makes me laugh when I see it.

In regards to the RoboCop TV series, it was as good as it could be considering the constraints that they had to work within for viewing audiences. I would suggest as a followup/alternative to the TV series would be the RoboCop Prime Directives series of TV movies that were done. They essentially take place after the second film and ignore the Jetpack RoboCop of Part 3.

I think that's the movies I mentioned in my earlier post. I hated RoboCop 3, It was total crap. I might have accepted the flying aspect, except they didn't bother about the scaling, which, when he flew towards the camera, was wrong compared with the people he was flying past, and, as you may have seen with earlier rants from yours truly, I can't stand it when things are not to scale, totally spoils the illusion for me. I nearly walked out of the cinema in RoboCop 3.

I heard that years ago, but wondered if it was true. They had a shuttle which they used on occasion, and teleportation was all the rage in sci-fi shows. I believe it was used as a mechanism whereby the story can be told without clumsy interference of having to get in and out shuttles all day.

The Sesame Street clip is gold.

As I understand it, it is true! GR had to come up with a way to get his characters from the ship to a planet or vice versa without busting the budget! landing the Big E would have been impossible in 1966 TV and they did not have the budget to build a shuttlecraft (real size and miniature) in the first few episodes, so they came up with the Energy/Matter transporter (first generation? our TV's), as I have read the history of Star Trek GR had a story approved (and of course it had to be approved by the studio as well) that dealt with his characters on a mission transporting a Federation Ambassador back to the Enterprise and they get blown off course and crash landed on a planet...wait for it!! "The Galileo Seven" the studio was still not going to pay for a full size shuttlecraft to be built, so AMT offered to build a full-sized Shuttlecraft at no cost in exchange for rights to market a model kit! and the rest, as they say is history.

Scott

Well yours would have been new, mine were second hand. It seems since Blu-Ray has come onto the scene the price of second hand DVD has fallen through the floor, Oh apart from Classic Doctor Who which are still stupid money (ie only a couple of quid less than new), but I suppose that's because the classic stuff is not available on Blu-Ray.

Re RoboCop, The Mini Series/ TV Movies are good, well the first two are, I can't say anything about the last two as I have not watched them. Those were a real bargin. They were a box set on two double sided discs. I picked them up from a carboot fair for 50 pence.

We have one or two stores here in town (500,000 people! and only two!!) that sell used DVD or Blu-Ray and neither have had them!! go figure, so I had to buy new! of course that was awhile ago and now of course they both probably have them in stock...that's my luck! Thanks Pearl for you review of RoboCop, I'll see if I can find them.

Scott

I truly enjoyed Babylon 5 as a series whole. The arc was enough to keep you interested and most of the 'stand-alone' stories were fun. The motorcycle scene still makes me laugh when I see it.

In regards to the RoboCop TV series, it was as good as it could be considering the constraints that they had to work within for viewing audiences. I would suggest as a followup/alternative to the TV series would be the RoboCop Prime Directives series of TV movies that were done. They essentially take place after the second film and ignore the Jetpack RoboCop of Part 3.

Those films take place 10 years after the original Robocop film. It does ignore Robocop 3, or at least makes no mention of any of those events. The only problem I found with these movies was Page Fletcher, who played Alex Murphy/Robocop. I found it odd how short he was while in the Robocop suit. Otherwise, they work pretty well. Never been able to find them on DVD, but managed to download them a while back. Have the soundtrack for it as well.

RoboCop (a Titles and Air Dates Guide) -- epguides.com (http://epguides.com/robocop/)

I just watched The Doomsday Machine again. Still a fantastic, gripping episode, after all these years... Have never seen the remastered versions and have access to them now, so dipping into a few favourites first. Great stuff.

I just watched The Doomsday Machine again. Still a fantastic, gripping episode, after all these years... Have never seen the remastered versions and have access to them now, so dipping into a few favourites first. Great stuff.

True Trek Stories never get old or stale! I have U-verse and there is a channel called METV, unfortunately their now showing the remastered versions...so I just stick with my original tapes.

Scott

Just last year I was watching The Devil in the Dark and noticed stuff I never noticed before, so there is new in the old.


As for B5, I like the series, and on DVD I have the complete series, all of the movies, the spin off Crusade, and the direct to video short movies.
I didn't like it when the pilot movie The Gathering was released on DVD, they dumped Stewart Copeland's score for Christopher Franke's new score.

True Trek Stories never get old or stale! I have U-verse and there is a channel called METV, unfortunately their now showing the remastered versions...so I just stick with my original tapes.

Scott

I like making comparisons between the old and the new versions actually. I have the original release DVD box sets which I watched and rewatched so it's quite nice to see the episodes in a new light, remastered and with new effects. I certainly didn't have a problem wit the original effects - I think I prefer the episodes that way - but the remasters really bring out a lot of the colour of the set designs and richness of the lighting and cinematography. But what really struck me was how well-paced The Doomsday Machine was - how many times have I seen it? And in these days of fast editing and impatient plots, I'm still leaping out of my seat at the tension at the end of this episode waiting for Scotty to fix the transporter so Kirk won't disappear down that alien maw.

Simply superb stuff.


Just last year I was watching The Devil in the Dark and noticed stuff I never noticed before, so there is new in the old.


That is the next episode on my list to watch. Love it. Looking forward to seeing that new in the old!

I like Babylon 5. I saw season 1 to 4 one per day but got bored at the beginning of season 5. Poor JMS have to wrap up the war-arc in season 4, because all indicated that the series would be cancelled.

Anyway, if someone is interested, I have some Christhopher Famke CD rips. PM me.

Just last year I was watching The Devil in the Dark and noticed stuff I never noticed before, so there is new in the old.


As for B5, I like the series, and on DVD I have the complete series, all of the movies, the spin off Crusade, and the direct to video short movies.
I didn't like it when the pilot movie The Gathering was released on DVD, they dumped Stewart Copeland's score for Christopher Franke's new score.

As do I! the show really touched a cord in my soul! the kindling of love between Delenn and Sheridan, the Vorlons and the Shadows, the First Ones and my all time favorites "G'Kar, Marcus, Garibaldi, and Bester" Now that you have rekindled B5, I'm going to have to watch the whole series again!!! AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!!! :p

I wounder if Copelands score can be found?

Scott

I just finished watching Space Above and Beyond and thinking what to watch next....B5, sounds good, and now it is your fault!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif

My two favorites are G'Kar and Sinclair.

I don't know about Copelands score.

I just finished watching Space Above and Beyond and thinking what to watch next....B5, sounds good, and now it is your fault!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif

My two favorites are G'Kar and Sinclair.

I don't know about Copelands score.

Oh Great!! you had to bring up Space Above and Beyond!!! for craps sake!!!!! NOW I'LL NEVER GET ANY SLEEP!!! ;)

Scott

I just finished watching Space Above and Beyond and thinking what to watch next....B5, sounds good, and now it is your fault!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif

My two favorites are G'Kar and Sinclair..


Oh, I have ro rewatch Space: Above & Beyond. Sinclair is my favorite as well, along with Londo.

I haven't seen it but... what about Farscape?

I know, I used to work with them, but I did not mention them because it might confuse the younger ones among us, who have no idea what a floppy disk is.

Scott

The new guys will never know what it's like to hold an 8 incher in their hands.

I just finished watching Space Above and Beyond and thinking what to watch next....B5, sounds good, and now it is your fault!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/064.gif

My two favorites are G'Kar and Sinclair.

I don't know about Copelands score.

Sinclair was good. But I was sad to hear that O'Hare died last year. Conaway the year before last. Katsulas and Biggs already gone a long time. At least they left a worthy legacy. Here's to you. Cheers.

Just last year I was watching The Devil in the Dark and noticed stuff I never noticed before, so there is new in the old.


Did you catch the scene where Spock melds with a giant pizza. Classic.

The new guys will never know what it's like to hold an 8 incher in their hands.

I miss floppy disks.

I haven't seen it but... what about Farscape?
One of the best science fiction shows. Very quirky, so you need to get past some weirdness, but also very serious underneath. Unlike Stargate for example, it really managed to combine drama and comedy perfectly.

Make sure you get the Space Above and Beyond soundtrack. It's an awesome 3 CD release

Well, I had to dish out over $700.00 cash for the original DVDs from TOS, when they first came out, with the old SPFX, and now they are totally worthless!!!! I donated them to the local library, after picking up the new ones! Still, all in all, I'm glad that I backed up the originals, hehehehehehe

As for B5, I hated season one, and season 5, but 2 through 4 were GREAT! I loved the shadow war, and all the cliff hangers, but I was also disappointed when season 5 kicked in, and there was nothing left to do, kind of like all the war heros from WW2, when they came home, after fighting a great war, then they had to go out and get a job and a wife, and start building a family. No wonder we have so many boozehounds in my father's generation! :)

William

I managed to pick up the whole series of Babylon 5 on DVD from a second hand DVDF/Blu-Ray store (C-EX) for just under �23. So I have those to watch at some stage. I also picked up for �8 the entire RoboCop TV series. I've never seen it, but was interested in seeing what it was about. Does anyone have any opinions on this series?

EDIT

Just took down the RoboCop discs and I made a mistake. They didn't cost me �8 the 6 disc set only cost me �4.

I commend you on your bargain hunting skills with respect to acquiring the Babylon 5 for peanuts. You have done well. (The RoboCop thing... you'll be glad you paid less than the 8 quid you thought you did).

Now that HMV is about to close for good, there will be no stores to source quality sci-fi films. Bollocks. What has this country come to.

Oh, I have ro rewatch Space: Above & Beyond. Sinclair is my favorite as well, along with Londo.

I haven't seen it but... what about Farscape?

Farscape is one of the better science fiction shows that came out during that time. The fact that they used the Henson shop for much of the aliens helped contribute to it's enjoyability. I will always remember Dominar Rygel XVI of the Hynerian Empire with great humor and laughter. It was nice that each season played into the next but you could still come into it a season or two in and still not be too lost for the overall arc. I recommend enjoying Farscape: So look up, and share the wonders I've seen!

As for B5, I hated season one, and season 5, but 2 through 4 were GREAT! I loved the shadow war, and all the cliff hangers, but I was also disappointed when season 5 kicked in, and there was nothing left to do, kind of like all the war heros from WW2, when they came home, after fighting a great war, then they had to go out and get a job and a wife, and start building a family. No wonder we have so many boozehounds in my father's generation! :)

William

I agree with you about Season 5, it was just dragging on until the last episodes. But I enjoyed season 1, JMS had a lot a world-building to make. And, you've got Duffy Duck and the motorcycle scene :)

Dennis McCarthy you have made me cry for over 5 minutes (of course the writing was also good), thank you :) Damn! He doesn't hit the mark not any moren often than once in 10 years or so, but when he does, he is one of the best!

... 'this was about Star Trek Voyager: Real Life.

I commend you on your bargain hunting skills with respect to acquiring the Babylon 5 for peanuts. You have done well. (The RoboCop thing... you'll be glad you paid less than the 8 quid you thought you did).

Now that HMV is about to close for good, there will be no stores to source quality sci-fi films. Bollocks. What has this country come to.

I thought HMV Canada bought them to keep them open.
I only paid �4 for robocop TV series, so I'm not too worried if it is bad.

...unfortunately their now showing the remastered versions...so I just stick with my original tapes.

Scott

Maybe I missed it ... sorry if I did ... but what is the cause of your dislike for the remastered? Just wondering: I haven't really seen them but as I understand it the only significant changes they made was to replace the stock model shots with CGI. Or is there more to it than that?

The new guys will never know what it's like to hold an 8 incher in their hands.

My wife knows... :) Oops. Sorry, didn't mean to brag...

Does anyone know where I can find the booklet for Micheal Giacchino's Star Trek soundtrack? the original CD

I thought HMV Canada bought them to keep them open.
I only paid �4 for robocop TV series, so I'm not too worried if it is bad.

I honestly don't know. That was on the cards, but I think it ended up in the hands of Deloittes administrators I think. The stores are not getting restocked. It's back to the Dark Ages.

I just watched The Mimic on 4. Worth watching for his take on Al Pacino.

Oh, I have ro rewatch Space: Above & Beyond. Sinclair is my favorite as well, along with Londo.

I haven't seen it but... what about Farscape?

Farscape!!! Another great show!! if you get the chance diffenitly watch it and don't forget to see The Peacekeeper Wars after you have watched the regular episodes...and Claudia Black!!! What a beautiful women :)

Scott

I miss floppy disks.

I still have a portable 3 1/2 on my desk! just sits there and never used...lol

Scott

I still have a portable 3 1/2 on my desk! just sits there and never used...lol

Scott

Say that again. Just took out a 10 year old drive. Looks like new! New motherboards don't seem to bother with a floppy connector. So if anyone needs to do a fresh install, even of a late Windows XP 64-bit, on a RAID drive or even dare to use ACHI instead of native IDE, they'll need a USB floppy to be able to install the driver. Windows 7 doesn't seem to need such a work-around.

Maybe I missed it ... sorry if I did ... but what is the cause of your dislike for the remastered? Just wondering: I haven't really seen them but as I understand it the only significant changes they made was to replace the stock model shots with CGI. Or is there more to it than that?

The CGI Enterprise looks like crap! some of the other CGI shots are okay, I just like the original SFX shots. Ted Tuner found out the hard way when he bought the MGM Vault and decided to colorize some of the classic movies from the 40's and he was barbecued for it! and should have been. You can do some amazing things with CGI, but replacing a full studio grade model is not one of them!

Scott

Say that again. Just took out a 10 year old drive. Looks like new! New motherboards don't seem to bother with a floppy connector. So if anyone needs to do a fresh install, even of a late Windows XP 64-bit, on a RAID drive or even dare to use ACHI instead of native IDE, they'll need a USB floppy to be able to install the driver. Windows 7 doesn't seem to need such a work-around.

Yes I have a usb 3 1/2 drive on my desk!!

There is no need for a floppy connector anymore! all modern CD-ROM and DVD drives are bootable drives! starting with windows xp 32 bit and 64 bit are bootable medium discs, as you said as long as your not using RAID setup (XP goes EOS in 2014), nope windows 7 ended the need for a third party driver disk, now that RAID is built in every new motherboard BIOS and Microsoft incorporated RAID drivers into win 7 & 8 the 3 1/2 floppy has gone the way of the dinosaurs!

Scott

I got an opinion.....

Well, I had to dish out over $700.00 cash for the original DVDs from TOS, when they first came out, with the old SPFX, and now they are totally worthless!!!! I donated them to the local library, after picking up the new ones! Still, all in all, I'm glad that I backed up the originals, hehehehehehe

As for B5, I hated season one, and season 5, but 2 through 4 were GREAT! I loved the shadow war, and all the cliff hangers, but I was also disappointed when season 5 kicked in, and there was nothing left to do, kind of like all the war heros from WW2, when they came home, after fighting a great war, then they had to go out and get a job and a wife, and start building a family. No wonder we have so many boozehounds in my father's generation! :)

William

700. That's a lot. I shelled out �80 stirling for each season of TNG when they came out - I think that comes to about the same! Your TOS must have been the very first release with 2 (?) episodes per DVD. I gave those a miss. I even gave the three box sets a miss. Went straight to the pirate cgi version - only snag is everyone's wearing an eye-patch and going "Arrr, matey!"

Farscape!!! Another great show!! if you get the chance diffenitly watch it and don't forget to see The Peacekeeper Wars after you have watched the regular episodes...and Claudia Black!!! What a beautiful women :)

Scott

Claudia Black: Stargate, of course. Stunning gal.

Maybe I missed it ... sorry if I did ... but what is the cause of your dislike for the remastered? Just wondering: I haven't really seen them but as I understand it the only significant changes they made was to replace the stock model shots with CGI. Or is there more to it than that?

The Enterprise is nowhere near as good as the one created for the Motion Picture SE. Just wait, there will be another edition coming out which will resolve our issues.

The CGI Enterprise looks like crap! some of the other CGI shots are okay, I just like the original SFX shots. Ted Tuner found out the hard way when he bought the MGM Vault and decided to colorize some of the classic movies from the 40's and he was barbecued for it! and should have been. You can do some amazing things with CGI, but replacing a full studio grade model is not one of them!

Scott

Mind you I prefer the cgi SE even though something has been lost in terms of 'feel' - I just got tired of laughing at some shots which looked like the Enterprise or the shuttle were dangling on a piece of string � la Plan 9 From Outer Space.

Yes, those TOS DVDs were the first ones out there, and they had only 2 episodes per, I think they were 39.99 per box, so it was actually closer to 800.00 for the whole set!
As for the problems with the new TOS SPFX, we had discussed this previously, either here or on the TOS thread, with the problems with scale, and just bad CGI, you appreciate the original FX much more, especially when you think about what they DIDN'T have to work with back then! Some of the new effects look GREAT, like the new backgrounds with futuristic cities and such. I just watched STTMP the other
night, and was marvelling at the new FX that were done by Daren Doctermann. Like the first scene with Spock on Vulcan, incredible! :)

William

There are ways to get the AHCI driver onto a CD-ROM. For example:

Integrate Driver into Windows Installation CD using nLite - Step by step Tutorial (http://www.komku.org/2007/11/integrate-driver-into-windows.html#sthash.bwnZ8Za0.dpbs)

There are ways to get the AHCI driver onto a CD-ROM. For example:

Integrate Driver into Windows Installation CD using nLite - Step by step Tutorial (http://www.komku.org/2007/11/integrate-driver-into-windows.html#sthash.bwnZ8Za0.dpbs)

Thanks for the link!

I do not recommend XP to anyone! plus you can't find it here in the USA anymore (Microsoft made sure of that) so go to win 7 and stay away from win 8.

Scott

The Enterprise is nowhere near as good as the one created for the Motion Picture SE. Just wait, there will be another edition coming out which will resolve our issues.

Another CGI Enterprise? because if so, I'll save my money and stay with what I have. Like I said earlier....CGI is good for somethings, but to replace studio grade models, forget it! the look and feel of CGI is just not there yet, and won't be for several years if not another decade or two.

Scott

I miss floppy disks.

You should have seen the looks on my kids face when they saw it the first time! lol

You know I should place my Will on 3 1/2 inch floppy just for the fun of it :)

Scott

The Enterprise is nowhere near as good as the one created for the Motion Picture SE. Just wait, there will be another edition coming out which will resolve our issues.

Coming for the 50th Anniversary, the new improved CGI FX Re-Remastered TOS set with effects you wanted the first time, and at a special price of $200 per set, with new features, like new interviews with DeForest Kelly, James Doohan and Majel Barret through seances.

Coming for the 50th Anniversary, the new improved CGI FX Re-Remastered TOS set with effects you wanted the first time, and at a special price of $200 per set, with new features, like new interviews with DeForest Kelly, James Doohan and Majel Barret through seances.

Cool, put me down for a full set.I'll pay you when I can reach my wallet. Now, if someone can just untie my straight jacket..........;)

I know he's got better stuff in him,

also, medal of honor: frontline was goddamn brilliant

Jeeeezzzz, and I thought dishing out about 300 for the new set was robbery. Guess Im not the only trekker in the group, LOL

There are ways to get the AHCI driver onto a CD-ROM. For example:

Integrate Driver into Windows Installation CD using nLite - Step by step Tutorial (http://www.komku.org/2007/11/integrate-driver-into-windows.html#sthash.bwnZ8Za0.dpbs)

I'm familiar with slipstreaming - it's just a hassle, my friend! You would think a company as big and as wealthy as MS would allow a driver to be installed from a flash drive, or even to read a CD-ROM where you pop out the original Windows installer CD and pop in the driver - and then swap back. But never mind.

Coming for the 50th Anniversary, the new improved CGI FX Re-Remastered TOS set with effects you wanted the first time, and at a special price of $200 per set, with new features, like new interviews with DeForest Kelly, James Doohan and Majel Barret through seances.

LOL, man. LOL

i hate how paramount charges highway robbery for trek stuff because they know fans will want it so badly. :notgood:

i wait until i see used sets. i got TNG season 1 from game stop for 35$. i have a friend who is upgrading to blu and is going to sell me some season sets of voyager cheap. it's the only way other than piracy for me to afford any trek.

Thanks for the link!

I do not recommend XP to anyone! plus you can't find it here in the USA anymore (Microsoft made sure of that) so go to win 7 and stay away from win 8.

Scott

Good advice with respect to Windows 8. I always tried to avoid XP, but XP64 was extremely stable and fast for me. Bizarrely it's based on Windows Server 2003. The only thing that's annoying is that XP64 has had its last service pack, SP2, which did not implement the Blu-Ray standard filing system. Idiots.

And if anyone needs Windows 7 http://www.mydigitallife.info/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-from-digital-river/ / http://www.w7forums.com/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads-t12325.html

I've actually switched my sister to Windows 7 today. Her (very, very new) XP install was somehow broken so badly it took ages to boot and was extremely slow overall. A repair install resulted in it not booting at all anymore. So I just formatted the whole thing and put on Windows 7.

But XP wasn't bad from SP2 onwards. Certainly better than Vista. But Win7 fixed Vista's major flaws.

I'm have XP, and I like it. Now the PC my Brother gave me has Vista, with no SPs. I just can't get SP1 to install. I even used the restore from backup to get it like new, and so far, I can't get SP1 to install. If I can't get it to work, then I buy Win7. I hate the junk Microsoft keeps forcing on us.

Ever new Windows, is just a patch for the last one, with usually junk added, and calling it improved. I dread the newer ones, but, if support ends for the older ones, no choice. I still miss Win95.

The right way to deal with ships and objects in the foreground is to use physical models. There is no substitute that can emulate the realism and feel of a physical model. CGI should be used to enhance realism in conjunction with physical objects, not as a replacement.

Good advice with respect to Windows 8. I always tried to avoid XP, but XP64 was extremely stable and fast for me. Bizarrely it's based on Windows Server 2003. The only thing that's annoying is that XP64 has had its last service pack, SP2, which did not implement the Blu-Ray standard filing system. Idiots.

And if anyone needs Windows 7 Official Windows 7 SP1 ISO from Digital River � My Digital Life (http://www.mydigitallife.info/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-from-digital-river/)

Just another way for MS to force people to go to win 8! I use 7 64 bit and I'll keep it until it dies, I just built a new computer and I refuse to now upgrade my monitor (and the couple thousand dollars) for a new touch monitor so win 8 will work right. The GUI for win 8 just sucks! I used the RC version for a month and could not get used to all the changes MS put in! plus none of my games would work under 8, so that was it for me.

Scott

I'm have XP, and I like it. Now the PC my Brother gave me has Vista, with no SPs. I just can't get SP1 to install. I even used the restore from backup to get it like new, and so far, I can't get SP1 to install. If I can't get it to work, then I buy Win7. I hate the junk Microsoft keeps forcing on us.

Ever new Windows, is just a patch for the last one, with usually junk added, and calling it improved. I dread the newer ones, but, if support ends for the older ones, no choice. I still miss Win95.

I have ran into that problem before, you need more RAM in order for the SP's to install right! the only way I got the SP to install right was to use MS provided SP they put out on CD! I have no idea if you can get them from MS anymore? you might try contacting MS and see if they will still send them to you, if not the only other way is to go to this site How to obtain the latest Windows Vista service pack (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791#DownloadSession) download SP 1 then burn it to CD, install it, then download the service pack 2, burn it to a CD disc and repeat the process until you have all three service packs installed.

MS is about to give all those with XP No Choice! in 2014 XP goes EOS (End Of Service) and that will be the end of it...oh it well still be around but you won't be able to get any service packs or updates, so if your copy of XP craps out you have to reinstall your going to out of luck. Vista is the worse piece of coding crap I have ever seen! nothing and I mean nothing!! but lockups, BSOD's (Blue Screen Of Death) and *hitty drivers. Good luck with your newer system.

Scott

Scott, thanks!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

I have SP1 & 2 downloaded. They recommend to install it from the hard drive. I am updating everything from HP and Intel first, then try again to get SP1 a go.
My little time with Vista, shows me it is crap. I probably will end up going to 7.

Scott, thanks!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/spocksmiley.gif

I have SP1 & 2 downloaded. They recommend to install it from the hard drive. I am updating everything from HP and Intel first, then try again to get SP1 a go.
My little time with Vista, shows me it is crap. I probably will end up going to 7.

Your Welcome my friend :)

Yeah MS recommends a lot of crap, but they have no idea what type of system you have! and the main problem is if the SP goes south on you, you could have a non-functioning computer...and then you'll have to reinstall the master CD and what ever is on your computer is gone.

Windows 7 is great, but it too needs a lot of resources to run right...a good example is mine...I have a AMD Phenom II X4 (4 CPU's) 965 Processor 3.40 GHz 32 GB RAM with a 2 GB video card, I used to have a Intel Core Dou (2 processor's) with 4 GB RAM and 512 MB video card and windows 7 ran slow on that, just words to the wise. if you need help let me know!

Scott

Your Welcome my friend :)

Yeah MS recommends a lot of crap, but they have no idea what type of system you have! and the main problem is if the SP goes south on you, you could have a non-functioning computer...and then you'll have to reinstall the master CD and what ever is on your computer is gone.

Windows 7 is great, but it too needs a lot of resources to run right...a good example is mine...I have a AMD Phenom II X4 (4 CPU's) 965 Processor 3.40 GHz 32 GB RAM with a 2 GB video card, I used to have a Intel Core Dou (2 processor's) with 4 GB RAM and 512 MB video card and windows 7 ran slow on that, just words to the wise. if you need help let me know!

Scott

Many have had their computers 'go south' as you say starting with Win98 when many lost their data, and with no recompense. It happened again to many with XP. Just make sure you have every bit of important data backed before trying anything.

Intel seem to have dropped the ball somehow in terms of performance, even 'locking' some CPUs - who had that bright idea? AMD is the way to go these days.

Trust Windows 7 to occupy a tonne or two of disk space and bring everything to a crawl.

Just another way for MS to force people to go to win 8! I use 7 64 bit and I'll keep it until it dies, I just built a new computer and I refuse to now upgrade my monitor (and the couple thousand dollars) for a new touch monitor so win 8 will work right. The GUI for win 8 just sucks! I used the RC version for a month and could not get used to all the changes MS put in! plus none of my games would work under 8, so that was it for me.

Scott

Two grand? Bloody hell. That's a lot of Whiskey for something to wipe your greasy fingers on. What about these flip-flop fall-apart laptops I've seen advertised, surely they're not that expensive - they look, errrm, what's the word I'm looking for... shit?



Could be worse... could be using Windows 8.

Tracklist
101 - Intro_Captain's Log Theme.mp3
102 - Alien Environment Theme #1.mp3
103 - Alien Environment Theme #2.mp3
104 - Alien Environment Theme #3.mp3
105 - Comedy Theme #1.mp3
106 - Comedy Theme #2.mp3
107 - Comedy Theme #3.mp3
108 - Utopia Theme.mp3
109 - Utopia Theme (insert).mp3
110 - Chaos Theme #1.mp3
111 - Chaos Theme #2.mp3
112 - Action Theme (full).mp3
113 - Action Theme (short).mp3
114 - Generic Theme #1.mp3
115 - Generic Theme #2.mp3
116 - Generic Theme #3.mp3
117 - Generic Theme #4.mp3
118 - Generic Theme #5.mp3
119 - Generic Theme #6.mp3
120 - Scene Ending Cue #1.mp3
121 - Scene Ending Cue #2.mp3
122 - Scene Ending Cue #3.mp3
123 - Act Closing Cue #2.mp3
124 - Act Closing Cue #3.mp3
125 - Act Closing Cue #5 (long).mp3
126 - Act Closing Cue #5 (short).mp3
127 - Episode Closing Cue (long).mp3
128 - Epsiode Closing Cue (short).mp3

Download Link

http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/309655/file.html

The Enterprise is nowhere near as good as the one created for the Motion Picture SE. Just wait, there will be another edition coming out which will resolve our issues.

The shots I've seen looked pretty good. I've always thought myself rather picky on such things but maybe my standards (or eye sight) are slipping. Being a computer guy I also can appreciate a well executed CGI but being a former scale modeler, I appreciate a well crafted miniature and having an interest in photography arts I appreciate a well executed effects shot using them. Film-wise, I do prefer the physical miniatures but too often ham-handed effects people do something to screw up the miniature shots -- I'm thinking about the scale issues in TWOK (and don't even get me started on matte lines) -- which a well designed CGI program should make nearly impossible to screw up. But all other things being equal, I do appreciate and prefer a well done miniature.

However, in the case of the remasters, that just wasn't possible and I think well executed CGI is acceptable to me. I guess I'll have to watch them sometime (I'll BT them since I can't afford to buy them at the prices Paramount is charging) and judge.

Thanks for the link!

I do not recommend XP to anyone! plus you can't find it here in the USA anymore (Microsoft made sure of that) so go to win 7 and stay away from win 8.

Scott

Actually, it is available: eBay!!! And I recommend it over Vista...!

Another CGI Enterprise? because if so, I'll save my money and stay with what I have. Like I said earlier....CGI is good for somethings, but to replace studio grade models, forget it! the look and feel of CGI is just not there yet, and won't be for several years if not another decade or two.

Scott

I think the quality of the CGI result probably depends quite a bit not only on the software used and the quality of the operators. I've seen some dang good CGI that to my old eyes looked life-like realistic; I've seen CGI that was total crap. I agree that CGI will simply continue to improve, but I think we've got software out there now that can create CGI that is indistinguishable (on "film") from reality.

I hate the junk Microsoft keeps forcing on us.

That's why after spending over 2 decades in the IBM-Compatible (Microsoft) world I made the switch to Mac. Best decision I ever made....well, after marrying my wife.

Coming for the 50th Anniversary, the new improved CGI FX Re-Remastered TOS set with effects you wanted the first time, and at a special price of $200 per set, with new features, like new interviews with DeForest Kelly, James Doohan and Majel Barret through seances.

:rofldata:

Tracklist
101 - Intro_Captain's Log Theme.mp3
102 - Alien Environment Theme #1.mp3
103 - Alien Environment Theme #2.mp3
104 - Alien Environment Theme #3.mp3
105 - Comedy Theme #1.mp3
106 - Comedy Theme #2.mp3
107 - Comedy Theme #3.mp3
108 - Utopia Theme.mp3
109 - Utopia Theme (insert).mp3
110 - Chaos Theme #1.mp3
111 - Chaos Theme #2.mp3
112 - Action Theme (full).mp3
113 - Action Theme (short).mp3
114 - Generic Theme #1.mp3
115 - Generic Theme #2.mp3
116 - Generic Theme #3.mp3
117 - Generic Theme #4.mp3
118 - Generic Theme #5.mp3
119 - Generic Theme #6.mp3
120 - Scene Ending Cue #1.mp3
121 - Scene Ending Cue #2.mp3
122 - Scene Ending Cue #3.mp3
123 - Act Closing Cue #2.mp3
124 - Act Closing Cue #3.mp3
125 - Act Closing Cue #5 (long).mp3
126 - Act Closing Cue #5 (short).mp3
127 - Episode Closing Cue (long).mp3
128 - Epsiode Closing Cue (short).mp3

Download Link

http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/309655/file.html


:thumbsup:

Excellent work!

Revisiting the tng music has been a revelation for me. I had always written it off as nonthematic sonic wallpapr. Thechange in tbe series musical style is interestjng to examine. It is such a shame prick berman had to let hks persknal tastes affect the music. Had ron jones not been fired, his style wouldd have been perfect for some of the later episodes and especially the ds9 era. That said, there is a place for the :erm: somewhat blander mccarthy and chattaway stuff. If only berman had realized that a balance of both styles could have worked also...

Edit: I apologize for so many typos but this is my first time using a tablet to visit shrine

Ok, since we've been discussing CGI and special effects, I'd like to tell my one and only industry story:

Disclaimer: My little sister now works for the company in question. However, this story does not involve her and took place decades before she became employed by the company in question. I say this only because she is high enough in the company that I don't want to get her in serious trouble. After all, I can honestly say that if the "correct" two dozen or so people get on a plane together, it crashes and they all die, my sister is running Disney!!! :)

The time is the late 1970's. The place is Portland, Oregon. Several of my buddies at that time and I were really into model making and special effect in movies. We regularly thumbed through magazines like the industry-oriented "American Cinematographer" and the more general interest magazines such as "Cinefantastique". One of those buddies was working for a small animation studio in Portland. It was small and mostly did work for local media outlets and marketing companies, but because the company was in the animation industry (albeit barely) and because he worked for them he had access to some industry insider information. Well, he found out about an audience preview of a movie we had been reading about recently: Disney's "The Black Hole". It was a single showing event that wasn't exactly hush-hush, but it wasn't exactly being promoted and advertised either. When we arrived we sat behind a row of seats that had been roped off: Not because we thought those seats would be occupied by anyone important but because they were in about the spot we normally tried to sit. Plus, we figured if VIP's were gonna be there they would be given the best seats available, so the row immediately behind should be good. Eventually the theater filled up except the seats in front of us. Once the lights went down the row in front of us filled up although we didn't pay particular attention to the occupants of the row at that time.

Needless to say we laughed through the entire move. After the lights came up we waited in our seats for the audience reaction/feedback cards to be passed out. As we waited we ripped the movie to shreds, discussing the horrific story points, the total disregard of even the most basic scientific facts/principles, the Saturday morning cartoonish art/set design and the horrible special effects. At one point my buddy who worked at the animation studio said, "The people in the row in front of us are listening to us." Of course we laughed and said, "So what?" Then we carried on ripping the movie.

At one point I made a comment that changed the entire complexion of the situation. I made a comment about the blue-screen matte line. One of the women in the row in front of us turned around and said that I was mistaken because Disney uses a sodium yellow screen. I responded that normally that was correct, however that no less than "American Cinematographer" noted that with "The Black Hole" Disney had departed from their traditional use of the sodium yellow screen, using the industry standard blue screen instead. She said nothing, but my buddy took the opportunity to ask, "Excuse me, but isn't that so-and-so (pointing to one of the occupants of the row in front of us -- sorry, I don't recall the name but as I recall it was not a well known name and one with which I was immediately familiar) from Disney?" Oh, no, she insisted. She insisted he was just a businessman. We figured right then that we had totally ruined the day for a bunch of high ranking Disney execs.

A few days later, my buddy confirmed it: He had gone back to work and done a little research and confirmed that the person he has asked about was in fact a high ranking Disney person....

I hope Disney doesn't find out an fire my sister!!!! :)

EDIT: Just for the record, my sister has been promoted from the last position listed on her LinkedIn profile (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/martha-akers/7/3a8/1b9).

Revisiting the tng music has been a revelation for me. I had always written it off as nonthematic sonic wallpapr. Thechange in tbe series musical style is interestjng to examine. It is such a shame prick berman had to let hks persknal tastes affect the music. Had ron jones not been fired, his style wouldd have been perfect for some of the later episodes and especially the ds9 era. That said, there is a place for the :erm: somewhat blander mccarthy and chattaway stuff. If only berman had realized that a balance of both styles could have worked also...

Edit: I apologize for so many typos but this is my first time using a tablet to visit shrine

TNG OST AOK for sure.

Funny how you spelled "typos" correctly.

That's why after spending over 2 decades in the IBM-Compatible (Microsoft) world I made the switch to Mac. Best decision I ever made....well, after marrying my wife.

Is she watching what you type or what?

Is she watching what you type or what?

Nope. Just telling it like it is. My wife is presently visiting her family. Her mom just passed away this week.

Intel seem to have dropped the ball somehow in terms of performance, even 'locking' some CPUs - who had that bright idea? AMD is the way to go these days.

Not true. The current AMD architecture is seriously slow compared to Intel. And not just in gaming. Depending on the application Intel is 20-30% faster. You really need to look at some benchmarks.

Not true. The current AMD architecture is seriously slow compared to Intel. And not just in gaming. Depending on the application Intel is 20-30% faster. You really need to look at some benchmarks.

But of course, one of the trade-offs here is cost: AMD-based systems are generally noticeably less expensive the mainline Intel processors. The other problem with this sort of "rule of thumb" is that not all Intel processors are created equal: there have traditionally been a huge number of budget systems that use the lower end Intel processors which allows the manufacturer to shove out less expensive systems. The performance of the systems using these lower end processors has traditionally not been significantly different than AMD-based systems for most purposes. Caveat: I am basing this on my past knowledge of systems (3-5+ years back) and may not accurately reflect the current hardware market. But since I am no longer in the WinTel world (expect when forced to by the demand of others) I don't keep up on the "latest" and "greatest" technology in the WinTel world.

Actually, it is available: eBay!!! And I recommend it over Vista...!

Been using Vista for five years now, and never had a problem. :P

Been using Vista for five years now, and never had a problem. :P

Then I consider you very, very fortunate. Very few people I know who have/had Vista have had anything less than significant problems with it. I had Vista for several years and had nothing but problems with it, including numerous occasions of booting up to be thrown into restricted mode and told that I was using an illegal copy of Windows but if I would "register" with Microsoft (translation: give them more money) I would be forgiven. No, it wasn't "hostage-ware" in the sense that most people think: It was in fact a "legitimate" function inside of Windows as part of the Windows Genuine Advantage program but it was hostage-ware in the sense that Vista would go into this mode for no apparent reason (although generally it followed a crash of the OS) and the only solutions were to: 1) Pay Microsoft's extortion demands to get your computer back -- a path that most would choose because it is the simplest, or; 2) Restore the computer to the original factory state using the manufactures restore partition (in this particular case, Dell was the manufacturer) and then reinstall literally every application and restore your data from back ups (and no, going into the Roll-back utility to restore the system to an earlier point in time didn't resolve the issue as the system would continue to boot into restricted mode). Never, never, never had that problem with XP. And to date, I've never had that problem on the XP install I have sitting on my Mac, either.

...I like vista.....does that make me bad? LOL!!!

...I like vista.....does that make me bad? LOL!!!

No, just easy to please!! :)

Do you like Vista?
No.
Are you sure?
Yes I'm sure
Are you really sure?
Yes I am, I wouldn't have pressed the "I hate Vista button" if I didn't mean to.
Are you really really sure?
OK, where did I put my copy of XP
Are you.....
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



I wasn't to keen on Vista ;)

I just saw Space Above And Beyond, Episode "Mutiny". Wow! One of the finest hour of television. How could this show get cancelled after one seasons?!!?!

Do you like Vista?
No.
Are you sure?
Yes I'm sure
Are you really sure?
Yes I am, I wouldn't have pressed the "I hate Vista button" if I didn't mean to.
Are you really really sure?
OK, where did I put my copy of XP
Are you.....
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



I wasn't to keen on Vista ;)

Yes, almost perfectly true. Except that in the midst of all those questions Vista would have included a double-negative question wherein answering "Yes" as you had with every previous question would have actually meant "No"!!!

Tablet? I prefer capsules, dissolve faster and I enjoy the Shrine better.

Tablet? I prefer capsules, dissolve faster and I enjoy the Shrine better.

I tried it visit the Shrine snorting coke but I couldn't get it to stay up my nose. So I sold the rest of the six pack to the kid next door...

Tablet? I prefer capsules, dissolve faster and I enjoy the Shrine better.

Also you won't get an blinking weener :D

Not true. The current AMD architecture is seriously slow compared to Intel. And not just in gaming. Depending on the application Intel is 20-30% faster. You really need to look at some benchmarks.

Depends what you mean by faster. 'Parallel' computing power bolsters the benchmarks. AMD have much higher frequencies though. Take your pick.

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html) Peruse the Price(USD) column.

Tracklist
101 - Intro_Captain's Log Theme.mp3
102 - Alien Environment Theme #1.mp3
103 - Alien Environment Theme #2.mp3
104 - Alien Environment Theme #3.mp3
105 - Comedy Theme #1.mp3
106 - Comedy Theme #2.mp3
107 - Comedy Theme #3.mp3
108 - Utopia Theme.mp3
109 - Utopia Theme (insert).mp3
110 - Chaos Theme #1.mp3
111 - Chaos Theme #2.mp3
112 - Action Theme (full).mp3
113 - Action Theme (short).mp3
114 - Generic Theme #1.mp3
115 - Generic Theme #2.mp3
116 - Generic Theme #3.mp3
117 - Generic Theme #4.mp3
118 - Generic Theme #5.mp3
119 - Generic Theme #6.mp3
120 - Scene Ending Cue #1.mp3
121 - Scene Ending Cue #2.mp3
122 - Scene Ending Cue #3.mp3
123 - Act Closing Cue #2.mp3
124 - Act Closing Cue #3.mp3
125 - Act Closing Cue #5 (long).mp3
126 - Act Closing Cue #5 (short).mp3
127 - Episode Closing Cue (long).mp3
128 - Epsiode Closing Cue (short).mp3

Download Link

http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/309655/file.html

Cool! Thanks for this. :)

Thanks for all of the encouraging remarks about Vista....NOW I'M SCARED TO USE IT!

I should just give in and buy the Vista Service Pack called Win7.

I just saw Space Above And Beyond, Episode "Mutiny". Wow! One of the finest hour of television. How could this show get cancelled after one seasons?!!?!

Fox and sci fi shows... have a record of not backing them up. Space, Firefly, Terra Nova, even Millennium. Imagine Voyager or DS9 on Fox... two seasons, three at the most.

Also you won't get an blinking weener :D
I've been having a problem, weener wise.....any suggestions?

Two grand? Bloody hell. That's a lot of Whiskey for something to wipe your greasy fingers on. What about these flip-flop fall-apart laptops I've seen advertised, surely they're not that expensive - they look, errrm, what's the word I'm looking for... shit?



Could be worse... could be using Windows 8.

Ouch!!

You can find touch monitor for less but of course it is a lot smaller...the 32 inch LCD HD monitor I have runs for about $300.00, the same size in touch goes for around $1,856.99 at Newegg...not worth it.

The Windows 8 tablet or Windows Surface is indeed a piece of shit! the thing comes with 32 GB (SSD) after you start it up the first time your left with 16 GB! it does have a built-in MicroSD card slot, so you can add 64 GB there but it is slower then the internal SSD...again not worth it.

Scott

Thanks for all of the encouraging remarks about Vista....NOW I'M SCARED TO USE IT!

I should just give in and buy the Vista Service Pack called Win7.

Actually win 7 is based on new code! there is some code from Vista in it, but not much. If you can find 7 on a store shelf let me know, because after 8 came out MS had every copy of 7 removed from the normal store shelfs here in California...I got mine from a friend that owns his own computer store, other then that you would have to get it from Amazon or Newegg! The biggest memory hog in win 7 is the GUI (Graphical User Interface) if you have a "Proprietary Computer" (Dell, HP, Compaq, Gateway, Toshiba, Sony, or other big-name computer) then my bet is you have shared video memory (your RAM on the motherboard gives some of that memory to your video chip) and it has a high limit (it will only go up to certain amount...say 128MB and thats it) so that will slow your system down. If you need to know more just PM me with your system specs and I'll check it out for you.

Scott

Depends what you mean by faster. 'Parallel' computing power bolsters the benchmarks. AMD have much higher frequencies though. Take your pick.

PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html) Peruse the Price(USD) column.

I'm with you theone!!

Mine was based on two factors...One: AMD true multi cores CPU, compared to Intel fooling windows into thinking it has more then one core! Two: Price Intel i7 (i7 975 Extreme Edition 3.33GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366 Desktop Processor) $1,075.85 <---just for the CPU!! no way in hell. Serenifly if you can afford to fork out that kind of money be my guest. Just a side note, only a hand full of games run multi thread, the majority still run in 32 bit, the same with applications.

Scott

Disney really took it in the shorts for "The Black Hole" I wonder if this high ranking person survived after that fiasco?

Great story by the way :)

Scott

Nope. Just telling it like it is. My wife is presently visiting her family. Her mom just passed away this week.

Sorry to hear about her loss!

Scott

Been using Vista for five years now, and never had a problem. :P

Lucky you!! you have to be one of a million that didn't.

Scott

...I like vista.....does that make me bad? LOL!!!

Not at all! just different! ;)

Scott

Then why are they going to re-make it? I for one like The Black Hole.

Scott, thanks for your offer of help. If I need it, I will come a running to Engineering. I did build two PCs, then My brother gave me now two of his hand me down PCs. I hate a "Proprietary Computer", too much crap on it, and slow, as you stated. I prefer to buy a video card with on board RAM, instead of draining my Motherboard RAM. I got the Specifications of my Motherboard, so I have more info to what I can upgrade.

I've been having a problem, weener wise.....any suggestions?

Just be aware that they, unfortunately, can't be had without the person attached -
i know, it's a bummer, just be more particular with the latter, it pays off. :D

Amanda, Ask Oscar Mayer.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thumbup.gif

Just be aware that they, unfortunately, can't be had without the person attached -
i know, it's a bummer, just be more particular with the latter, it pays off. :D

Not so. The make prosthetics. I've seen "em. They even strap on..er..:erm:

oh. :sad:

Listened to Star Trek V Score yesterday. I think because TNG used the same music from TMP as ST V does, i suddenly got nostalgic and realized: Wow! There was a time when could watch new Star Trek episodes and look forward to a movie at the SAME time; we could watch TWO Star Trek shows' new episodes TNG/DS9 and later DS9/VOY.

How well they fed us. What a great time for being a Star Trek fan!!!!

Today, all we have to look forward to is JJ Abrams latest abomination :/
But i am still nostalgic :) 1987 till 2001 we had either TV/MOVIE or TV/TV/MOVIE, those are 14 years! How awesome!!!

Not so. The make prosthetics. I've seen "em. They even strap on..er..:erm:

oh. :sad:

Yeah, but with some of them you got the blinking weener issue all over again :D

pretty awesoms...

Olaf, Mandi needs huggs...:(

pretty awesoms...

Olaf, Mandi needs huggs...:(

HUGS - and it's not just out of compassion, you know we like you :)

Hey Olaf, have you ever seen the Young Sherlock Holmes Recording Sessions put into any sort of film order?

Hey Olaf, have you ever seen the Young Sherlock Holmes Recording Sessions put into any sort of film order?

i got it like this:

01-1 Stained Glass Knight - Part 1 (Partial Alternate).flac
01-10 House Of Cards.flac
01-11 Ehtar's Escape.flac
01-12 Ehtar's Escape (Pickup Alternate).flac
01-13 Stained Glass Knight.flac
01-14 Stained Glass Knight (Partial Alternate).flac
01-15 Pursuit _ Flying (Alternate).flac
01-16 Pursuit _ Flying.flac
01-17 Waxflatter's Demise.flac
01-18 Chase _ Cemetery.flac
01-19 Cemetery (Partial Alternate).flac
01-2 Stained Glass Knight - Part 2 (Pickup Alternate).flac
01-20 Crowbridge's Story - Part 1.flac
01-21 Watson To The Rescue (Alternate).flac
01-22 Main Title (Alternate).flac
01-23 Roll Up To Main Title I.flac
01-24 Roll Up To Main Title II.flac
01-25 Main Title (Short Version).flac
01-26 Frogget & Frogget _ The Pyramid.flac
01-27 Frogget & Frogget (Alternate).flac
01-28 Mr. Bobster's Dinner - Part 1.flac
01-29 Mr. Bobster's Dinner - Part 2.flac
01-3 The Riddle Solved.flac
01-30 Solving The Crime (Alternate).flac
01-31 Solving The Crime.flac
01-32 Solving The Crime (Pickup Alternate).flac
01-33 Pastries & Crypts.flac
01-34 Soldier Attacks (Partial).flac
01-35 Soldier Attacks (Alternate).flac
01-36 Soldier Attacks.flac
01-4 End Title - Part 2.flac
01-5 End Title - Part 1.flac
01-6 Elizabeth Shot _ Final Duel.flac
01-7 Final Duel (Pickup Alternate).flac
01-8 Bobster's Death.flac
01-9 Main Title (Alternate).flac
02-18 A Warning_The Game Is Afoot (Alternate).flac
02-19 A Warning_The Game Is Afoot.flac
02-20 Out The Window.flac
02-21 Elizabeth's Farewell.flac
02-22 Egyptian Tavern (Source).flac
02-23 Library Love_Flying Machine.flac
02-24 Mysterious Man.flac
02-25 Holmes' Hat.flac
02-26 Discovered.flac
02-27 Discovered (Short, Alternate).flac
02-28 The Kiss_To Crowbride's House (Alternate).flac
02-29 The Kiss_To Crowbride's House.flac
02-30 The Riddle Posed.flac
02-31 _I Had To Come Back_.flac
02-32 Moriarty's Coda.flac
02-33 One Last Duel_Unfair Distraction.flac
02-34 Watson To The Rescue (Shorter, Alternate).flac
02-35 God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen (Source).flac
02-36 Waxing A Virgin.flac

P.S.: I just found this great method to create a text file listing all files within a folder. It worked, as you can see above :)

Create a text file of the contents of a directory in Windows Explorer | Forwest (http://www.forwestmedia.com/resources/how-to-guides/text-file-of-a-directory/)

Olaf, that's not close to any order either...main titles' in the middle...:( hmph

Olaf, that's not close to any order either...main titles' in the middle...:( hmph

yeah. But still better than the issue we got with Brian Tyler's "Regeneration".

Mm. I think the order I suggested works close enough. Just considering it is a promo, and not the complete score. I think I would have liked some of the opening Arctic team stuff. This one seems a good candidate for official release, yes?

My house smells like stew cooking. :)

:erm:.....am I cooking stew????

Mm. I think the order I suggested works close enough. Just considering it is a promo, and not the complete score. I think I would have liked some of the opening Arctic team stuff. This one seems a good candidate for official release, yes?

My house smells like stew cooking. :)

:erm:.....am I cooking stew????

You order is good, but we couldn't identify some tracks.

Cooking stew? Aye, Scotty might tell us, if that's a feasable St. Patricks day thingy. Scots, Irish close enough :D (now he'll set his phaser on kill, hehe) r can he?

He can try 'n phaser me all he wants. My living room is in a state of Temporal Grace, no weapons work in here....**in theory**

Not so. The make prosthetics. I've seen "em. They even strap on..er..:erm:

oh. :sad:

AMANDA! :O I'm.....I'm....Shocked ;)

He can try 'n phaser me all he wants. My living room is in a state of Temporal Grace, no weapons work in here....**in theory**

Temporal Grace, huh? No wonder we talk "prostetics", must result in the longest lasting pleasant feeling ever : )

He can try 'n phaser me all he wants. My living room is in a state of Temporal Grace, no weapons work in here....**in theory**

Yeah, that's what the Doctor said, and look what happened there LOL

P.S.: I just found this great method to create a text file listing all files within a folder. It worked, as you can see above :)

Create a text file of the contents of a directory in Windows Explorer | Forwest (http://www.forwestmedia.com/resources/how-to-guides/text-file-of-a-directory/)

Thanks for this tricK Olafolaf, this will be so useful. :D

AMANDA! :O I'm.....I'm....Shocked ;)

Really? "cause I've gone as far as posting pics of my hoo-ha with a prostetic up in....in the old sts now about science & cats thread-ish thing. In theory y'all oughtta know me pretty well now...

**just how shocked can you be**

I mean really now

Thanks for this tricK Olafolaf, this will be so useful. :D

Put a bird on it! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmLljk2t8M

WHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyy............???????

In The Pale Moonlight, Sisko should just have put a bird on it, that's why.

Nooo. You have not paid attention. Early Sisko would have put a bird on it, with some protest. Later, bald and bearded crazier than a fucker Sisko woulda cooked the damn bird up in a pot and served it to the senior staff, with a not-quite-but-who-are-we-kidding maniacal grin on his face. :)

Then why are they going to re-make it? I for one like The Black Hole.

Scott, thanks for your offer of help. If I need it, I will come a running to Engineering. I did build two PCs, then My brother gave me now two of his hand me down PCs. I hate a "Proprietary Computer", too much crap on it, and slow, as you stated. I prefer to buy a video card with on board RAM, instead of draining my Motherboard RAM. I got the Specifications of my Motherboard, so I have more info to what I can upgrade.

You do know that Scotty multiplies his repair estimates by a factor of 8?

Really? "cause I've gone as far as posting pics of my hoo-ha with a prostetic up in....in the old sts now about science & cats thread-ish thing. In theory y'all oughtta know me pretty well now...

**just how shocked can you be**

I mean really now
Have you indeed. and just where are these posted ;)

Nooo. You have not paid attention. Early Sisko would have put a bird on it, with some protest. Later, bald and bearded crazier than a fucker Sisko woulda cooked the damn bird up in a pot and served it to the senior staff, with a not-quite-but-who-are-we-kidding maniacal grin on his face. :)

I think the showrunners pretty well knew why they got Avery and how the show and his character would develope:

Disney really took it in the shorts for "The Black Hole" I wonder if this high ranking person survived after that fiasco?

Scott

Good question. I wish I could remember the name of the guy but alas, it was so unfamiliar to me at the time that it didn't stick in my memory.

Sisko is a boss

Then why are they going to re-make it? I for one like The Black Hole.

Scott, thanks for your offer of help. If I need it, I will come a running to Engineering. I did build two PCs, then My brother gave me now two of his hand me down PCs. I hate a "Proprietary Computer", too much crap on it, and slow, as you stated. I prefer to buy a video card with on board RAM, instead of draining my Motherboard RAM. I got the Specifications of my Motherboard, so I have more info to what I can upgrade.

You welcome, and your welcomed in Engineering any time laddy!

A separate video card is the way to go, MS codes windows for that type of computer. The big box name company's take MS gold code and change it so it will run on their computers and it causes more problems then it's worth, and as you said they add their own bloatware to the mix and it is a disaster. Sounds like your in great shape AZ! :)

Scott

You order is good, but we couldn't identify some tracks.

Cooking stew? Aye, Scotty might tell us, if that's a feasable St. Patricks day thingy. Scots, Irish close enough :D (now he'll set his phaser on kill, hehe) r can he?

Irish Beef Stew is great for St. Patrick's day! but being a Scotsman we do not celebrate it! we do celebrate St. Joseph's Day on the 19th and we don't celebrate St George's day April 23rd. either...hope this helps.

Scott

Good question. I wish I could remember the name of the guy but alas, it was so unfamiliar to me at the time that it didn't stick in my memory.

Just as well!! by now he is the janitor for your sisters office. ;)

Scott

Thanks for all of the encouraging remarks about Vista....NOW I'M SCARED TO USE IT!

I should just give in and buy the Vista Service Pack called Win7.

I may sound like a fanboy, but go with an NVIDIA graphics card. I used AMD graphic cards for decades, because i didn't see why i should pay more money for the same thing, but i made a switch lately, giving NVIDIA the benefit of the doubt and will never ever switch back. Performance is smoother, more silent, everything just breathes "top notch". Now for mainboard and CPU i am still with AMD, because my system is simply not outdated yet, but if get something new, INTEL also is the way to go, it won't get cheaper than right now and it will satisfy you for the next 6 years or so. Should you decide for AMD phenom x4 (4 cores) is quiet enough, even for gaming. As for INTEL, you don't need the latest hardware - to expensive. Just look what equals the best AMD Phenom x4 or slightly excels it and you are good to go.

Since when did this thread turn into a discussion about 'puters. Well it didn't:

A very reliable graphics card manufacturer is MSI. Their stuff is made of US military components and watching DS9's Dominion warfare will give the Federation an extra edge - unless you are a Cardassian traitor! :D

From music, to TV shows, to computers, to body parts,.....what's next?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gifNOT THAT!

Amanda, it is always a pleasure to see you, all of you.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo.gif

**blush** Well, would you please tell poor Pearl where to go. Poor boy's lost...

Just please don't link back to here. The other thread is NSFW, but even labeled and spoilered here, one might expect a more kid friendly environment, being a Trek thread and all, dig?

From music, to TV shows, to computers, to body parts,.....what's next?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gifNOT THAT!

Amanda, it is always a pleasure to see you, all of you.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo.gif

Computer to body parts - sounds a lot like dha Borg, i just don't know where the music and TV fit in ... hmm ... 't seems the hive still got some secrets : )

**boys are so easily amused**

I may sound like a fanboy, but go with an NVIDIA graphics card. I used AMD graphic cards for decades, because i didn't see why i should pay more money for the same thing, but i made a switch lately, giving NVIDIA the benefit of the doubt and will never ever switch back. Performance is smoother, more silent, everything just breathes "top notch". Now for mainboard and CPU i am still with AMD, because my system is simply not outdated yet, but if get something new, INTEL also is the way to go, it won't get cheaper than right now and it will satisfy you for the next 6 years or so. Should you decide for AMD phenom x4 (4 cores) is quiet enough, even for gaming. As for INTEL, you don't need the latest hardware - to expensive. Just look what equals the best AMD Phenom x4 or slightly excels it and you are good to go.

Since when did this thread turn into a discussion about 'puters. Well it didn't:

A very reliable graphics card manufacturer is MSI. Their stuff is made of US military components and watching DS9's Dominion warfare will give the Federation an extra edge - unless you are a Cardassian traitor! :D

nVidia. Good choice, sir. For those who are sick of fan noise, Asus do some nVidia with a massive heat sink and no fan.

If you get an Intel, keep it on the cool side, otherwise it may warp your m/b - speaking from experience here.

The Mimic guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RDMGf5uAs

**blush** Well, would you please tell poor Pearl where to go. Poor boy's lost...

Only one picture I can see of you there (others have been removed) and the picture is certainly child friendly. :D I've always preferred brunettes. You get two thumbs up from me Amanda. :D

Wait a minute...

we have a "NSFW" thread here???

WHERE???? :)

William

Pearl, pussy in your in box.....err..no that's right

William, you are too young.

Az, I assume you found it....

Why are boys always needing directions to it anyhooo?

>>>.I've horrified them all into group muteness.....:sad:

Az, I assume you found it....

Why are boys always needing directions to it anyhooo?
Hmmmmmm, you are right. We always need a little direction ;)

>>>.I've horrified them all into group muteness.....:sad:

I think our muteness is quite the opposite Amanda. Yep NOT horrified, definitely not horrified.

OH! You are talking about your cat, silly me.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/roflao.gif

Not you cat? :)

ye, yes, my bald, pierced cat....indeed

And of course, my cats pink vibrating playtoy.

I was doing some thinking today...sure it is dangerous, and besides, it gives me a headache.....

Well anyway, William, Scott, I feel sorry for both you living in California. I read on many products that in your State, it can cause Cancer, Birth Defects, and more.
I'm glad I don't live there, so that I can safely use those products, unless it is from the Umbrella Corporation, or maybe Wal-Mart, too.

nVidia. Good choice, sir. For those who are sick of fan noise, Asus do some nVidia with a massive heat sink and no fan.

If you get an Intel, keep it on the cool side, otherwise it may warp your m/b - speaking from experience here.

The Mimic guy Terry Mynott official Impressions clip - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RDMGf5uAs)

This guy's INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! :D

nVidia. Good choice, sir. For those who are sick of fan noise, Asus do some nVidia with a massive heat sink and no fan.

If you get an Intel, keep it on the cool side, otherwise it may warp your m/b - speaking from experience here.Terry Mynott official Impressions clip - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RDMGf5uAs)

Saw a photo once -- don't remember where (PC Magazine, maybe) -- of some engineering type that built a computer which he severely over-clocked. To prevent burning up the processor he built a cooling system for it which (if I remember correctly) used liquid-nitrogen as the cooling agent.

... To prevent burning up the processor he built a cooling system for it which (if I remember correctly) used liquid-nitrogen as the cooling agent.

To return to yesterday's topic: Careful with your weener, i would tell him, or in the future the least of your worries will be taking a (coolant) leak :P

I read on many products that in your State, it can cause Cancer, Birth Defects, and more.

People confirm, this can happen to you, shaking hands with JJ Abrams.
(Yeah, i know that one was over the top evil, how un-trekkie of me :/ )

Wait...No, SERIOUSLY......

Hehehehehehehe :)


William

To return to yesterday's topic: Careful with your weener, i would tell him, or in the future the least of your worries will be taking a (coolant) leak :P

But such things are not always true. One time I walked in front of a aircraft radar test shack while they were doing a test (and they didn't have the signs and ropes up) and I was still able to have kids.... :)

Saw a photo once -- don't remember where (PC Magazine, maybe) -- of some engineering type that built a computer which he severely over-clocked. To prevent burning up the processor he built a cooling system for it which (if I remember correctly) used liquid-nitrogen as the cooling agent.

There are some good ones on YouTube, like where the guy is standing over his machine pouring liquid nitrogen on the CPU. AMD Phenom II Overclocking 6.6Ghz on Liquid Nitrogen - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3n91MkkO1s)

I was doing some thinking today...sure it is dangerous, and besides, it gives me a headache.....

Well anyway, William, Scott, I feel sorry for both you living in California. I read on many products that in your State, it can cause Cancer, Birth Defects, and more.
I'm glad I don't live there, so that I can safely use those products, unless it is from the Umbrella Corporation, or maybe Wal-Mart, too.

I feel sorry too, but California is just sticker happy! your state may not have the same warning labels on product's but they all have the same chemicals. You got to remember we have Governor moonbeam and a very liberal state house (to liberal for my taste's) but all good things come to an end! lets just hope they don't take the state with them.

Scott

I feel sorry too, but California is just sticker happy! your state may not have the same warning labels on product's but they all have the same chemicals. You got to remember we have Governor moonbeam and a very liberal state house (to liberal for my taste's) but all good things come to an end! lets just hope they don't take the state with them.

Scott

Well, Scott, rumor has it that Schwarzenegger! carries a small part of CA in his trousers pockets :O but i am sure the Pebbles Immobilization Act soon will put a stop to that!

So, I've been working on a Deep Space Nine video game soundtrack, but I'm not sure if anyone will want it, as it is not a TV/Film soundtrack. Nevertheless I've designed the cover and have kept it in the style of the La La Land release, however I have used a different image for the front.

I was provided with the soundtrack by olafolaf (so many thanks), but I found that there were a few more cues than on the one he provided. I only found this out when I downloaded the game to try and get some screen caps and looked at the music files on there. There were 17 more tracks. most of these were, as with the ones provided to me, short cues. So I decided that I would try to mix these cues into longer tracks. I apologise now for these mixes, and I did the best I could. I'm afraid I only dabble in audio, mostly soundscaping and voice editing etc, however my music mixing isn't up to the standards of others who frequent FFS.

So the link below has the covers, CD designs and the tracks themselves. These are in 128kbs as this is how they are presented on the video games disc.




LINK: Download FELL OVER.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vhi2iu)


PASSWORD: Goldensands

Another PCM cover!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo-1.gif

They look, well.....AWESOME! I will try the download tonight. I do have 15 tracks I found on the web and Demo CDs, so now I can complete it.
I like all soundtrack music.

Another PCM cover!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/woohoo-1.gif

They look, well.....AWESOME! I will try the download tonight. I do have 15 tracks I found on the web and Demo CDs, so now I can complete it.
I like all soundtrack music.
Thanks AZSneed. I like this soundtrack (and I too like games soundtracks) it is very atmospheric. I hope you enjoy it. The file is about 83 meg, so it's not huge.

Hey did anyone know about this? A Star Trek TV Movie?

Star Trek: Renegades (TV 2014) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2621446/)

Hey did anyone know about this? A Star Trek TV Movie?

Star Trek: Renegades (TV 2014) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2621446/)

First I heard of it! it's not an official Star Trek TV movie, it's being done by Renegade Studios an independent studio (they did Star Trek: Of Gods and Men) so we shall see how it turns out.

Scott

So, I've been working on a Deep Space Nine video game soundtrack, but I'm not sure if anyone will want it, as it is not a TV/Film soundtrack. Nevertheless I've designed the cover and have kept it in the style of the La La Land release, however I have used a different image for the front.

I was provided with the soundtrack by olafolaf (so many thanks), but I found that there were a few more cues than on the one he provided. I only found this out when I downloaded the game to try and get some screen caps and looked at the music files on there. There were 17 more tracks. most of these were, as with the ones provided to me, short cues. So I decided that I would try to mix these cues into longer tracks. I apologise now for these mixes, and I did the best I could. I'm afraid I only dabble in audio, mostly soundscaping and voice editing etc, however my music mixing isn't up to the standards of others who frequent FFS.

So the link below has the covers, CD designs and the tracks themselves. These are in 128kbs as this is how they are presented on the video games disc.




LINK: Download FELL OVER.rar from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/vhi2iu)


PASSWORD: Goldensands

Thank You Pearl!! love the covers and thanks for the tracks olafolaf!

Scott

Well, Scott, rumor has it that Schwarzenegger! carries a small part of CA in his trousers pockets :O but i am sure the Pebbles Immobilization Act soon will put a stop to that!

LOL

His soon to be ex-wife my solve the problem for us all! :)

Scott

Hey did anyone know about this? A Star Trek TV Movie?

Star Trek: Renegades (TV 2014) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2621446/)


That's another FAN produced movie. I think that James Crawface has something to do with it! He's trying SO hard to be "mainstream", but he just can't get his foot in the door, hehehehehe

What a WANKER! :)

William

Thank You Pearl!! love the covers and thanks for the tracks olafolaf!

Scott

the tracks originated from th Complete Score Project pages over at Bolt, perhaps i am mixing up identities but i think to thank is the one who thanked me first. Wait! This isn't about mistaken identities, we are dealing with a Predestination Paradox!!! :D

That's another FAN produced movie. I think that James Crawface has something to do with it! He's trying SO hard to be "mainstream", but he just can't get his foot in the door, hehehehehe

What a WANKER! :)

William

Lucky for me i'm a mainstream natural and i won't try to break in until i have a shitload of great scripts under my belt. Until then? I keep my head low ... and get stinky from old age, hehe : )

EDIT: What kind of story is that?!?! Just read the plot summary, lol:


It is nearly ten years after Voyager's return from the Delta Quadrant, and the Federation is in a crisis. The Federation's main suppliers of dilithium crystals are disappearing. Space and time have folded around several planets, effectively isolating them from any contact with outside worlds. And this phenomenon is not natural - someone or something is causing this to happen. This necessitates drastic measures; some of which are outside the Federation's normal jurisdiction. For this, Admiral Pavel Chekov, head of Starfleet Intelligence, turns to Commander Tuvok, Voyager's former security officer and current head of the newly reorganized Section 31. Tuvok must put together a new covert, renegade crew - mostly outcasts and rogues - even criminals. This new crew is tasked with finding out what is causing the folding of time and space, and stopping it - at all costs. But will they be able to put aside their differences and stop trying to kill one another in time to accomplish their mission?

Know your format, fellow writer. Know your format. This ain't it! :/

Just wanted to nitpick Star Trek Voyager, but it FAAAAAAAAAAILED :D
Tuvok was an instructor at Starfleet Academy. Shouldn't Chakotay know he is Starfleet, when Tuvok infiltrates his Maque ship?!?! Well, here are the details from memory alpha:

"Chakotay graduated from Starfleet Academy in 2348"
"Tuvok entered Starfleet again in 2349"

Hmmm. A close call.

That's another FAN produced movie. I think that James Crawface has something to do with it! He's trying SO hard to be "mainstream", but he just can't get his foot in the door, hehehehehe

What a WANKER! :)

William

I will believe that cast list when I see it fully produced.

...and what the heck would Chekov be doing in the late 24th century??

First off, thanks to PCM, and olafolaf for The Fallen! Some new music for me! I don't play games, I look to them for music.

As for Star Trek:Renegades, I watched the second trailer at Youtube....ZZZZzzzzz
Also, why call it TV, when you won't see it there, unless you burn a DVD and watch it that way?

I will believe that cast list when I see it fully produced.

...and what the heck would Chekov be doing in the late 24th century??

I agree on the cast, and remember Admiral McCoy on STNG, TOS heroes never die, sort of.

Oh, well, Chekov became a captain of his own ship, and the crew became disgruntled with his overbearing, tin-plated, dictorial attitude, and threw him into a deepfreeze machine that they found at an old, deserted cloud city, over by besbin, and he was thawed out by a large, manish looking woman (who wore a wierd looking silver collar) who fell in love with him, and brought him back to Earth. He finally ditched her, when she changed her name to "Swartzenegger", and hit a temporal wormhole and wound up back in the 20th century! Hehehehehe :)

Hey, it's a better story than that crap that what'shisname is trying to produce, heheheheh

William

I will believe that cast list when I see it fully produced.

...and what the heck would Chekov be doing in the late 24th century??

Using a Zimmer frame to walk around LOL

Look at www.startrekrenegades.com for more updates. But indeed when you watching trailer #2 ZZzzzzzz.

Is anyone interested in a flac rip of SYMPHONIC STAR TREK PERFORMED BY Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra on the TELARC label? It was a 20bit CD and recorded in Surround Sound, that's Dolby ProLogic to any youngsters out there, the daddy of Dolby Digital and Grandfather of Dolby TruHD. I was putting some bits in the loft, and I came across the chest of draws that house all my CD (banished to the loft by Mrs PCM :( that's the CD's not me LOL) and I have to take a look, and what should I find but this CD. It is really good, with excellent sound quality.

If people want me to upload it I can, just let me know.

If people do want it I might just have to re design the cover as it is appalling, possibly one of the worst covers I have ever seen.

Is anyone interested in a flac rip of SYMPHONIC STAR TREK PERFORMED BY Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra on the TELARC label? It was a 20bit CD and recorded in Surround Sound, that's Dolby ProLogic to any youngsters out there, the daddy of Dolby Digital and Grandfather of Dolby TruHD. I was putting some bits in the loft, and I came across the chest of draws that house all my CD (banished to the loft by Mrs PCM :( that's the CD's not me LOL) and I have to take a look, and what should I find but this CD. It is really good, with excellent sound quality.

If people want me to upload it I can, just let me know.

If people do want it I might just have to re design the cover as it is appalling, possibly one of the worst covers I have ever seen.


I have this in APE and FLAC, but not sure if it's true lossless or not. There's some odd noises at the ends of some tracks, almost sounds like a horse galloping...this may be on the original CD, for all I know.
I used to own this CD, but it got lost somewhere in a move. Needless to say, I wasn't happy. While the sound effects tracks were horrible (especially the Borg one), I loved the performances of most tracks. I especially liked the intro, featuring Leonard Nimoy.

Interested in a custom cover...that one IS pretty bad.

I have this in APE and FLAC, but not sure if it's true lossless or not. There's some odd noises at the ends of some tracks, almost sounds like a horse galloping...this may be on the original CD, for all I know.
I used to own this CD, but it got lost somewhere in a move. Needless to say, I wasn't happy. While the sound effects tracks were horrible (especially the Borg one), I loved the performances of most tracks. I especially liked the intro, featuring Leonard Nimoy.

Interested in a custom cover...that one IS pretty bad.

Hmmmm, not noticed that sound at the end of the tracks. I'll check it out. If they are not present on my rip you might like to use thoses to replace yours.

I started last night on a cover Not sure whether to go for a style in keeping with other TELARC CD's or whether to go for my own. Decisions decisions ;)

It would be best just to share it with the group, just in case someone wants it. I have that CD myself so...... :)

William

Hmmmm, not noticed that sound at the end of the tracks. I'll check it out. If they are not present on my rip you might like to use thoses to replace yours.

I started last night on a cover Not sure whether to go for a style in keeping with other TELARC CD's or whether to go for my own. Decisions decisions ;)

I first noticed this stupid noise at the very end of track 1, but it's more prominent on track 7 right at the first. It's on both the APE and FLAC...weird.

Look at Star Trek Renegades (http://www.startrekrenegades.com) for more updates. But indeed when you watching trailer #2 ZZzzzzzz.

"Boldy going were no Star Trek went before."

Then why the fuck do it? Geeses! People who think they are smarter then the original series' (plural) showrunners. It's really easy to impose your own ideas on someone elses work. What's hard is staying true to the form as is.

"This is not your Grandfathers Star Trek"

I am not a grandfather and it will take a shitload of time till i am. Not even at the necessary first stage yet.

It would be best just to share it with the group, just in case someone wants it. I have that CD myself so...... :)

William

Yeah, I shall do William. I'll design a new cover first, then package it all up and post it.

Another PCM package coming soon! So you own a package store, who what of guessed.;)

"Boldy going were no Star Trek went before."

Then why the fuck do it? Geeses! People who think they are smarter then the original series' (plural) showrunners. It's really easy to impose your own ideas on someone elses work. What's hard is staying true to the form as is.

"This is not your Grandfathers Star Trek"

I am not a grandfather and it will take a shitload of time till i am. Not even at the necessary first stage yet.

According to one comment under trailer #2:

Tim Russ is one of the driving forces behind Renegade studios and their earlier production "Of Gods and Men."
You have to respect a man who will put his time and effort into productions that wont net him anything financially. He has more heart in this mythos than JJ Abrams and even Paramount itself these days.

If this is true about Russ it is hard to argue with the posters logic. Unfortunately, sincerity and heart doesn't mean success and quality.

I will believe that cast list when I see it fully produced.

...and what the heck would Chekov be doing in the late 24th century??

Being a VERY old man!! :)

Scott

Is anyone interested in a flac rip of SYMPHONIC STAR TREK PERFORMED BY Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra on the TELARC label? It was a 20bit CD and recorded in Surround Sound, that's Dolby ProLogic to any youngsters out there, the daddy of Dolby Digital and Grandfather of Dolby TruHD. I was putting some bits in the loft, and I came across the chest of draws that house all my CD (banished to the loft by Mrs PCM :( that's the CD's not me LOL) and I have to take a look, and what should I find but this CD. It is really good, with excellent sound quality.

If people want me to upload it I can, just let me know.

If people do want it I might just have to re design the cover as it is appalling, possibly one of the worst covers I have ever seen.



I'll give it a listen to Pearl!!! Thank You in advance...

Scott

Hmmmm, not noticed that sound at the end of the tracks. I'll check it out. If they are not present on my rip you might like to use thoses to replace yours.

I started last night on a cover Not sure whether to go for a style in keeping with other TELARC CD's or whether to go for my own. Decisions decisions ;)

Go with yours Pearl!!!

Scott

"Boldy going were no Star Trek went before."

Then why the fuck do it? Geeses! People who think they are smarter then the original series' (plural) showrunners. It's really easy to impose your own ideas on someone elses work. What's hard is staying true to the form as is.

"This is not your Grandfathers Star Trek"

I am not a grandfather and it will take a shitload of time till i am. Not even at the necessary first stage yet.

Get busy laddy!!! ;)

Scott

Is anyone interested in a flac rip of SYMPHONIC STAR TREK PERFORMED BY Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra on the TELARC label? It was a 20bit CD and recorded in Surround Sound, that's Dolby ProLogic to any youngsters out there, the daddy of Dolby Digital and Grandfather of Dolby TruHD. I was putting some bits in the loft, and I came across the chest of draws that house all my CD (banished to the loft by Mrs PCM :( that's the CD's not me LOL) and I have to take a look, and what should I find but this CD. It is really good, with excellent sound quality.

If people want me to upload it I can, just let me know.

If people do want it I might just have to re design the cover as it is appalling, possibly one of the worst covers I have ever seen.



I had a cassette bootleg of this when I was a kid. I recall a "just cashing a paycheck" sounding Leonard Nimoy doing a brief intro monologue on the first track. I'd love to hear the album again.

Get busy laddy!!! ;)

Scott
well send Robin Curtis over!!! ;)

Oh, well, Chekov became a captain of his own ship, and the crew became disgruntled with his overbearing, tin-plated, dictorial attitude, and threw him into a deepfreeze machine that they found at an old, deserted cloud city, over by besbin, and he was thawed out by a large, manish looking woman (who wore a wierd looking silver collar) who fell in love with him, and brought him back to Earth. He finally ditched her, when she changed her name to "Swartzenegger", and hit a temporal wormhole and wound up back in the 20th century! Hehehehehe :)

Hey, it's a better story than that crap that what'shisname is trying to produce, heheheheh

William

On the other hand, at least some of these projects have decent quality sets, miniatures/CGI and so on. Too many fan productions destroy themselves by trying to use photo's or screen captures that have been blue screened or green screened in as their "sets" and the result is so bad that it is unwatchable. :(

Yes, PCM, that disc could use a new cover!!! That picture has NOTHING to do with anything in the content! I know you'll do much better! :)

William

well send Robin Curtis over!!! ;)

Very well!! you should know laddy you'll have to wait 7 years before she is in Pon Farr! ;)

Scott

Yes, PCM, that disc could use a new cover!!! That picture has NOTHING to do with anything in the content! I know you'll do much better! :)

William

It looks slightly like V'Ger.

Very well!! you should know laddy you'll have to wait 7 years before she is in Pon Farr! ;)

Scott

She's a good actress. She gotta fake it until then, then. :D