Speaking of DS9, I want to stray al little bit. If anyone is interested I found some DS9 mugs. I bought 2 myself. Here is the website.

Highwave ? Hotjo (http://highwave.bigcartel.com/product/hotjo)

Hey, this is a sharing site, may I request that you upload one of them and send me a link? ;)

Star Trek (All Movies) Custom Covers Created By Me (Simple Star Background With Film Title, Music From & Cunducted By)







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Star Trek (All Movies) Custom Covers Created By Me (Simple Star Background With Film Title, Music From & Cunducted By)







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Why not (additionally) adding this work of yours on the "Custom Cover" thread? There might be people who don't frequent this thread, but do like them, too! ;)

Edit: Stupid me, just saw you did exactly that! :)

LOL
Yes I Posted Here to As Some People Who Only Come For Trek Might Want ;)


And A Cover the Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Best of Both World (Using The Wonderful Blu-Ray Cover)

Some Covers For the 4CD Star Trek Deep Space Nine
(Based on the Same Design With Different Backgrounds)









Hope You Like.

Nice work, you've got talent! :)

Thankyou :)
I Am Posting Some For the Voyager Collection Uploaded By Starfleet I Know It Has SFX But It Will Do Until An Offcial :)

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Some Custom Covers For Starfleet's Incredible Voyager Collection If You Are Interested


















And As A Bonus Unimatrix One (Borg HQ)


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Hello, Gang! :)

All new links on page one, post one.

WHAAT???? Did you think that I was going to leave the GREATEST thread on this site? Not on your life, pal! :D

More to come!

I'm BACK!!! :)

Greg

Hello, Gang! :)

All new links on page one, post one.

WHAAT???? Did you think that I was going to leave the GREATEST thread on this site? Not on your life, pal! :D

More to come!

I'm BACK!!! :)

Greg

Welcome back old friend! never doubted for a second you left permanently :)

Scott

Greg, Nice to see you back

MANY more links on page one!!! Thanks my friends, nice to be back! :D

Greg

MANY more links on page one!!! Thanks my friends, nice to be back! :D

Greg

You have been a very busy man today Greg! I have re-uploaded some of the ones I lost a few months ago! I thank you kind Sir and good friend :) can't wait to see what else you up your sleeve...

Scott

Scotty57, Nice to see your back too

Scotty57, Nice to see your back too

Thank You Max, nice to be back :)


Scott

Greg, Mr Scott,
Welcome back.

I've been helping wrap up Volume Three of These are the voyages: tos - Home (http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/) and I'm interested to learn that STAR TREK's ratings were never as bad (comparatively) as the urban legend states. Marc Cushman licensed the actual Nielsen numbers, providing them for each episode. Most of the time TREK was #2.

It was TREK's cost, plus Roddenberry's consistently jerk-ish behavior, that got STAR TREK on execs' bad side. There was an industry rumor that they might get moved from Fridays to Tuesday mid-season, but Jerry Lewis wouldn't give up the slot, and his show was cheaper.

Gotta go to work now,

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

Greg, Mr Scott,
Welcome back.

I've been helping wrap up Volume Three of These are the voyages: tos - Home (http://www.thesearethevoyagesbooks.com/) and I'm interested to learn that STAR TREK's ratings were never as bad (comparatively) as the urban legend states. Marc Cushman licensed the actual Nielsen numbers, providing them for each episode. Most of the time TREK was #2.

It was TREK's cost, plus Roddenberry's consistently jerk-ish behavior, that got STAR TREK on execs' bad side. There was an industry rumor that they might get moved from Fridays to Tuesday mid-season, but Jerry Lewis wouldn't give up the slot, and his show was cheaper.

Gotta go to work now,

Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

Thanks Mark, good to be back...

Sounds about right! Plus Gene was in hog heaven with the notoriety and money, which lead him to be known around town as a womanizer! Majel even talked about it in her sons film "Trek Nation" (if I'm not mistaken). A new writer turned Producer of a new TV show does not piss off major television executives, let along studio executives, even today that's not a career builder. We all know the finale outcome, he had to step away from his show and only had success again when TNG came on the air, the movies provided some financial help to him and his family, but it was TNG that put him back on top (no pun intended) again and gave him the money to do things he could not do before, the up side was he was to old and health wise not able to womanize again. I'll never understand how Majel could stay married to a man like that!

A wonderful series of books Mark!

Scott

So I had the opportunity to pick up the Trek movie collection as blu ray dirt cheap, but am not sure about getting it. I hear bad things about it. I gather the picture quality sucks, and the theatrical editions are used, and not the director's cuts or special editions. Any comments from those who have them?

@amanda:
...have not heard anything, sorry.

I was also thinking about picking up the Blu Ray version but have not heard anything about them

Star Trek (All Movies) Custom Covers Created By Me (Simple Star Background With Film Title, Music From & Cunducted By)







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These are gorgeous. I love the evolution of the Star Trek font and my favorite will always be the classic cast film era font. I always wish they'd used a variation, perhaps a natural evolution of, the TNG font instead of the relatively vanilla fonts they used for the next gen movies.

Thankyou. Yes i agree the fonts for tng are very basic and could have been more upscaled from the series


I Am Currently Do Customs for the Ron Jones Box (Each Disc Will Feature Just the Enterprise But Diff to Each One)

Nice to have you back, Greg!

Thanks! New movie links on page one!

Enjoy, Greg

The Ron Jones Project Custom Covers













The Borg!!! Resistance Is Feutile!!



All Clear The Federation Survives Another Day!

















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So I had the opportunity to pick up the Trek movie collection as blu ray dirt cheap, but am not sure about getting it. I hear bad things about it. I gather the picture quality sucks, and the theatrical editions are used, and not the director's cuts or special editions. Any comments from those who have them?

The Directors Cuts only exist on DVD, sadly. Plus commentaries on some of the movies are done by Robert Orci & Co - who wants that?!

Her saying your links are reported isn't really starting anything, she says that in other threads too when there are links posted to music that shouldn't be here.

If you could please remove the links to the music in question and say to ask people to pm you for them instead that'd be great.

Gonna delete what happened here so things can try and get back to normal. I'm not trying to silence anyone, it's just not fair that other members need to read through this and wonder what's going on.

Jessie, I like the way you handled this, nice but firm. You would make a good supervisor.

Thanks! New movie links on page one!

Enjoy, Greg

Thank you Greg for updating the new links :)

Put her on ignore! it is great :) and where pain belongs.


Scott

Okay, ALL links removed, and I will NOT be posting or sharing anymore! With all this bullshit, it's just not worth it!

Sancio, you have threatened (According to Amanda) to close this thread, why wait??? Just close it today, it's just not worth remaining open anymore, it has become a horrible place to visit with all the shit that Amanda and Mr. Gold (Kirk101) have caused, and really needs to just be closed. There are several other TREK threads that everyone can go to and post on!
This thread needs to be retired! It's what Amanda has wanted all along.

you do not need to remove all links, just the ones that cannot be posted.
These are usually shared via pm, it is being done that way all over the forum.

I am sure you are familiar with this practice?

They say if you are not part of the solution, then you are a part of the PROBLEM!!!

Why do you INSIST being a part of the problem? There is possibly a very good psychological model to this that you can refer to!

The links have ALL been removed, and with people that I thought were friends, that "like" Amanda every time she slams me, calls me a moron, or puts up links to that 25 plus year old video, it really is a very horrible place to visit, and needs to be shut down. I WILL NOT be sharing anything here ever again. I will not be reupping my old links, nor creating any new links, and I'm sure that Mr. Gold will be really happy about that, he's wanted to take over the whole franchise since he first got here!

Amanda didn't want me to come back and post or share links, Jessie didn't, Sorei didn't, Mr. Gold didn't, Max Stein, Soundtrekker, and many others. WHY would I want to put up with this bullshit?

So, in closing, I say again, STOP being part of the FUCKING PROBLEM!

Shut the fuck up, brat.

you do not need to remove all links, just the ones that cannot be posted.
These are usually shared via pm, it is being done that way all over the forum.

I am sure you are familiar with this practice?

You cannot possibly feel the need to respond to him? He has dredged up all of his threads and posted the same message. I reported 4 links out of...30-ish. He is having a sad and pretty pathetic diva fit, even for him. Everyone can see that. He is his own enemy, just grab popcorn and watch the silly wee willy spin.

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They say if you are not part of the solution, then you are a part of the PROBLEM!!!

Why do you INSIST being a part of the problem? There is possibly a very good psychological model to this that you can refer to!

The links have ALL been removed, and with people that I thought were friends, that "like" Amanda every time she slams me, calls me a moron, or puts up links to that 25 plus year old video, it really is a very horrible place to visit, and needs to be shut down. I WILL NOT be sharing anything here ever again. I will not be reupping my old links, nor creating any new links, and I'm sure that Mr. Gold will be really happy about that, he's wanted to take over the whole franchise since he first got here!

Amanda didn't want me to come back and post or share links, Jessie didn't, Sorei didn't, Mr. Gold didn't, Max Stein, Soundtrekker, and many others. WHY would I want to put up with this bullshit?

So, in closing, I say again, STOP being part of the FUCKING PROBLEM!

There's a franchise? You own the threads? Wow. I did not know. I posted links because your DEMANDED proof of what I was saying. I then provided the proof YOU demanded. You clearly knocked over the biobed getting out of it. Added to the production's assertion in interviews that the following day's scenes had to be rewritten due to a broken prop, it is corroborated evidence and less rumor than fact. You demanded, I gave. You do not get to call foul now, just because your true twisted personality is revealed.

Hey everybody...

My links may be down because Yandex isn't so great after all...I paid for a year's hosting in 2013 and all has been well. Now they say they cannot let me renew because they can't take any $$$$ from other countries than theirs. I don't know if any Yandex links might still work for you guys.

This is not related to anything else but my file-host troubles.

I tried File Factory but that appears to have problems, too ....


Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

@msuperfan:

besides mega, have you ever tried 1fichier?

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You cannot possibly feel the need to respond to him? ...

call me stupid. Call it professional handicap. I cannot help it.

Hey everybody...

My links may be down because Yandex isn't so great after all...I paid for a year's hosting in 2013 and all has been well. Now they say they cannot let me renew because they can't take any $$$$ from other countries than theirs. I don't know if any Yandex links might still work for you guys.

This is not related to anything else but my file-host troubles.

I tried File Factory but that appears to have problems, too ....


Mark
Mark's Super Blog (http://markssuperblog.blogspot.com)
Spock's Record Round-Up (http://spocksrecordround-up.blogspot.com)

Mega is still free Mark! and with a free account you get 50 GB of space. Something to think about.

Scott

Why don't we hear from a production exec who was actually ON THE SET, the day after I made my video:

[Doug Drexler]
Hi Greg, I don't know anything about the bed costing a day of shooting. I wouldn't have confirmed that. I remember him (Guy Vardeman) saying it, but it's extremely doubtful that it would have cost a day of shooting. The assistant directors are much smarter than that. They would have simply shuffled the schedule. I don't recall there being any mention of the biobed even being knocked over.
The only thing that I can confirm is that the tape is as much a part of Trek history, and is really fun... and funny.

THE FACTS ARE: There was NO report of a breakin with security the next day, or any day after that! I checked with my friends on security for weeks after that, and the studio had no knowledge of the existence of that video until 1991 or 1992. By that time, I was already off the show and working on motion pictures, and put the whole TREK situation far behind me! There was no report about Greg Stone until about 1998 or 1999, and by that time, I was OUT of the business altogether!

AND, if it hadn't been for Mr. RALPH M. MILLER making mega copies and distributing that video, it would be totally unknown today! And nobody would be the wiser.

Those are the FACTS!

They say if you are not part of the solution, then you are a part of the PROBLEM!!!

Why do you INSIST being a part of the problem? There is possibly a very good psychological model to this that you can refer to!

The links have ALL been removed, and with people that I thought were friends, that "like" Amanda every time she slams me, calls me a moron, or puts up links to that 25 plus year old video, it really is a very horrible place to visit, and needs to be shut down. I WILL NOT be sharing anything here ever again. I will not be reupping my old links, nor creating any new links, and I'm sure that Mr. Gold will be really happy about that, he's wanted to take over the whole franchise since he first got here!

Amanda didn't want me to come back and post or share links, Jessie didn't, Sorei didn't, Mr. Gold didn't, Max Stein, Soundtrekker, and many others. WHY would I want to put up with this bullshit?

So, in closing, I say again, STOP being part of the FUCKING PROBLEM!

So much for anyone getting anymore Trek music!! I do hope those have caused this are now happy! I do hope Jessie closes this thread down.

Thank You Greg for all that you have shard with me over the years, it has been fun.


Scott

Except the animated gif you demanded to be taken down clearly shows you doing so. Perhaps you are saying that was not you after all? I can put it back into my sig then? You don't want it posted because you say it is you. So "you" clearly get out of the bed and in doing so knock it to the floor. You deny this is what happened, or that it is you? I am confused. Since it is on, ya know, tape?

There's a franchise? You own the threads? Wow. I did not know. I posted links because your DEMANDED proof of what I was saying. I then provided the proof YOU demanded. You clearly knocked over the biobed getting out of it. Added to the production's assertion in interviews that the following day's scenes had to be rewritten due to a broken prop, it is corroborated evidence and less rumor than fact. You demanded, I gave. You do not get to call foul now, just because your true twisted personality is revealed.

There's a franchise? You own the threads? Wow. I did not know. I posted links because your DEMANDED proof of what I was saying. I then provided the proof YOU demanded. You clearly knocked over the biobed getting out of it. Added to the production's assertion in interviews that the following day's scenes had to be rewritten due to a broken prop, it is corroborated evidence and less rumor than fact. You demanded, I gave. You do not get to call foul now, just because your true twisted personality is revealed.


I don't call you "Fat, ugly Sandra", so why do you constantly have to refer to me as "Wee willie"? Are you saying that I have a SMALL PENIS?? Do you really want to go there? You always start shit, and no matter what I do, you always have to comment on my end game! What the FUCK???

Your knickname is Wiliiam, which is shortened to Willy by many people the world over. Wee willy is small william, because you are a small minded and pathetic man who is apparently obsessed with penises. I can assure you that the female m,embers here have no thoughts of your membership. Moron.

Why don't we hear from a production exec who was actually ON THE SET, the day after I made my video:

[Doug Drexler]
Hi Greg, I don't know anything about the bed costing a day of shooting. I wouldn't have confirmed that. I remember him (Guy Vardeman) saying it, but it's extremely doubtful that it would have cost a day of shooting. The assistant directors are much smarter than that. They would have simply shuffled the schedule. I don't recall there being any mention of the biobed even being knocked over.
The only thing that I can confirm is that the tape is as much a part of Trek history, and is really fun... and funny.

THE FACTS ARE: There was NO report of a breakin with security the next day, or any day after that! I checked with my friends on security for weeks after that, and the studio had no knowledge of the existence of that video until 1991 or 1992. By that time, I was already off the show and working on motion pictures, and put the whole TREK situation far behind me! There was no report about Greg Stone until about 1998 or 1999, and by that time, I was OUT of the business altogether!

AND, if it hadn't been for Mr. RALPH M. MILLER making mega copies and distributing that video, it would be totally unknown today! And nobody would be the wiser.

Those are the FACTS!

Unfortunately Greg you can not change stupid or the ignorant! Ask Jessie to close this thread down..put a bullet in it's head.


Scott

wow.
*grabbing my popcorn*

And folks should note this. Greg wants the thread closed, and Scotty does too. They feel if THEY are not the ones posting, then they want it dead. Plus they will blame it on me, furthering their own circle jerk societies agenda. Don't be fooled by their madness.

Close the complete forums....NOW !!!!!!! They died just now....thanks for such KINDERGARTEN AKTION!!!! BE ASHAMED!!!!!!! ALl OF YOU!!!!!!

**gasp**

Oh noes!!! O.O

Yes sir!! On it....

Plus they will blame it on me, furthering their own circle jerk societies agenda.

that is not correct, dear. you cannot get all the glory for yourself.


...Jessie .., Sorei ..., Mr. Gold ..., Max Stein..., Soundtrekker..., and many others

those, and many others surely are to blame....as he states himself in post 8781...

Kindergarten.........kein Kommentar ..........xD

Ah, true. I forgot we indoctrinated Soundtrekker. He'll be shocked to hear it, poor man. Trying to be reasonable and friendly to all. What on Earth was he thinking?

Anyway, as fun as this is, it is pointless. NONE of it will be left standing, I suspect. And I am done. I said my peace. Now it is just silly, and an attempt to kill the thread. It will only get more outrageous and hostile from here (I know, right?). So, Popcorn and dogs all round, but watch out for the splatter zone. And penises. Mind the herds of peni, and THEIR **splatter zones**....:erm:

So apparently me asking for someone to please remove links and giving the person the chance to do it themselves instead of me just doing it means i didn't want them to post links anymore or want them back.

First off, William, i actually don't care if you do or don't post anything here, stay or go. I don't sit at my pc wondering if you're going to post something, i don't think about you whatsoever. It's only when you cause drama that needs dealing with that i interact with you, as the forum admin, other than that i don't care what you do or post, as long as it's allowed here.

Stop being a drama queen, your reaction to some links of yours being reported was way over the top and the same with your reaction to me asking nicely to remove the links.

williamtaylor1969, I don't want you to leave or stop sharing music, I was only saying that Jessie seems fair in pointing out the forum rules. There was no threats of kicking you off the forum or name calling. Jessie just suggested using PMs in the future. I appreciate all that you shared and was not taking sides in this latest blow up. Jessie was trying to enforce the rules and keep the peace. Something I did for 30 years so I respect that.

I Just Started Re-Watching TNG Up to S2 "Q Who" One Of My All Time Favs Borg & Q In One Episode Fantastic!.
It Is Amazing How TNG Still Looks Fantastic And Not Outdated.

I Must Admit I Liked Dr Palaski She Was A Bit More Firmer towards Crew Members (Especially Data) Dr Crusher Was Great But Never Really Challenged Things As Much (Here And There She Had Good Moments I.e "Descent" When In Command) And Still Ashame We Lost Tasha Yar So Early But It Allowed Our Good Friend Worf To Move Up As A Character.

@MrGold,

isn't it amazing that Denise Crosby originally was casted for the counselor part, and Sirtis for the other one? :D

True, Pulaski was very straight forward, up to a point of being blunt. I liked her, but she just did not understand the Data Phenomenon.
Diplomacy was not her strong suit ;)

yes They Where Orginally Going to Playe The Oposites LOL

Palaski was Fantastic in "Elementary My Dear, Data" Against Moriarty and The Data Problem.
One Of My Fav S2 Episodes (After Q Who) Is "The Measure Of The Man" An Excellent Story About Equal Rights For Artificial Lifeforms.

yes i love those episodes too!

I wonder, if Pulaski had been given more time, if she might have been able to adapt.
But her character was not liked enough, apparently...


bed time for me :)

Yes, Maybe A Cameo Now And Then... Would Have Benefitted.
(I Love How "The Measure of the Man" Was Continued In Voyagers "Author, Author" With Artificial Lifeform's Right In The Doctor Trying to Gain the Rights to His "Holo-Novel")

Nights!

I liked Dr Pulaski too, she added tension to the interactions of the cast. Tasha Yar did leave to soon but played a decent Romulain later.

Yes She Was Good In That Role. Well Pointed Max ;)
Against Spock It Was Epic. And One Of The Best Scenes.


"I'm just finishing up a speech. For you, Mister Spock. I rather enjoy writing. I don't get to do it often in this job."
" Perhaps You Would Be Happier In Another Job"

It was one of my favorite episodes

THANKS FOT GETTING RID OF SUCH GOOD PEOPLE AS WILLIAM.........ONLY BAD PEOPLE BRAINWASHED AND INTRIGUERS ARE WELL SEEN HERE.......THOUSAND THANKS....HOPEFULLY ALL WHO ARE INVOLVED THIS WILL PAY FOR THIS.......THE GOOD DAYS HERE ARE COUNTED.....ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME......PFEIFENK�PFE!!!!!!!

All caps...
The universal sign of overreacting.

Yes mr_garibaldi, William (Greg) is a good guy for sharing but someone needed to step in to address the exchange between William and Amanda it had become nasty and was getting out of hand. Good people can lose their tempers so it is up to people like Jessie to maintain order.

Oh yes.....of course max.....its very very sad what happened .....but rules are rules.....sometimes they have to be broken.

The Martyr's Code:
If you break the rules for a higher reason, you accept the punishment without complaint.

But that aside, as was mentioned before,
No one asked him to leave.
No one asked him to stop posting.
No one asked him to remove all his links.

He was asked to remove some links.
That's it.

That he chose to remove all links, and leave, is purely his own choice.
He's said he would leave and never come back before.
He always has.
So I'd be really, really, surprised if he didn't come back.

Jon...you're absolutly right.....it was his free will to kill everything he posted here....sadly......I think he overreacted.....as many of us....we all need to cool down.....as he got banned from here I think he won't and can't return......

Anyway back on topic "again" now starting s3. I feel this season was not as powerful and seemed a lot lighter than the previous 3 (until the best of both worlds)
There are some good one. Q as always with no powers lol. And always good to see barcly he is so funny with the holodeck programme. (Diana is the love interest. Geordi, data and picard as cavaliers and riker as a miget.)

I eagerly await watching the borg again my fav star trek story.

....as he got banned from here I think he won't and can't return......

often enough it is a temporary ban, we will see :)

@Mr.Gold

TNG has a lightness about it, that DS9 hardly had. Even the Holodeck episodes had a serious touch...in my opinion.

@MrGold,

isn't it amazing that Denise Crosby originally was casted for the counselor part, and Sirtis for the other one? :D

True, Pulaski was very straight forward, up to a point of being blunt. I liked her, but she just did not understand the Data Phenomenon.
Diplomacy was not her strong suit ;)

And in that regard, she was, as opposed to Crusher, a lot more like McCoy, sometimes even verging on the cynical, and always at odds with Data, as you pointed out.

Why don't we hear from a production exec who was actually ON THE SET, the day after I made my video:

[Doug Drexler]
Hi Greg [...]

For the record, Doug Drexler did not start working on TNG until the season after the set visit incident happened. And when he did join the crew, he was not a "production exec", he was a make-up artist. I'm not saying his reply has no merit, just clearing up the facts.


Now to steer it back away from that, here's a trivia question for you Trexperts...

How many characters (and name them) has Brent Spiner played in Star Trek? ...Not a very hard one, I grant you. :)

Ok. From what I am reading, although the movies are remastered for bluyray, it's misleading. The fx are still only done at dvd level, and for live action scenes, a generous amount of noise reduction has been used. Many say excessively used rendering a bad and waxy looking image. Sadly it is sounding as if they are not worth hunting down for free let alone purchasing, even at a cheap price. I hear similar things about the Next Gen series bluray. They alternated companies redoing the fx between seasons, so every other season is either really great, or really sucky. Such a shame.

Ok. From what I am reading, although the movies are remastered for bluyray, it's misleading. The fx are still only done at dvd level, and for live action scenes, a generous amount of noise reduction has been used. Many say excessively used rendering a bad and waxy looking image. Sadly it is sounding as if they are not worth hunting down for free let alone purchasing, even at a cheap price. I hear similar things about the Next Gen series bluray. They alternated companies redoing the fx between seasons, so every other season is either really great, or really sucky. Such a shame.


Nope, this is completely untrue for the Trek movies. Whatever review you're reading is 100% wrong. The "fx done at DVD level" doesn't even make sense, because they were optical effects mixed into the films. You might be confusing the Enterprise Blu-Ray releases with the films, because that's not the case with them. The only thing that you might be hearing here is that the director's cut of TMP did not have the effects rendered past 480i since HD was not considered at the time, which is why it has not been released on blu-ray.


Also, I found your comments about "willies" really childish and am disappointed that you chose to respond that way.

How many characters (and name them) has Brent Spiner played in Star Trek? ...Not a very hard one, I grant you. :)

...erm...

well
Data
Lore (Datas brother)
Dr. Soong (his father)
Arik Soong (ancestor of Dr. Soong)
B4
....that is about all I can think of?

@Mr.Gold

TNG has a lightness about it, that DS9 hardly had. Even the Holodeck episodes had a serious touch...in my opinion.
Yes some holodeck episodes where very serious the big goodbye is one of my fav holodeck tng

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And in that regard, she was, as opposed to Crusher, a lot more like McCoy, sometimes even verging on the cynical, and always at odds with Data, as you pointed out.

Yes lol calling him datta! "One is my name....the other is not"

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How many characters (and name them) has Brent Spiner played in Star Trek? ...Not a very hard one, I grant you. :)

Dr Arik soong (ST Enterprise: borderlands, cold station 12 and the augments )
Lt. Cm data (ST TNG (all except family) + The four films and voice over in enterprise these are the voayages)
Lore. (ST TNG: datalore, brothers, descent parts 1 + 2)
Dr noonian soong (ST TNG: brothers, birthright (dream) inheritance (hologram))

B4 (nemesis)

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Ok. From what I am reading, although the movies are remastered for bluyray, it's misleading. The fx are still only done at dvd level, and for live action scenes, a generous amount of noise reduction has been used. Many say excessively used rendering a bad and waxy looking image. Sadly it is sounding as if they are not worth hunting down for free let alone purchasing, even at a cheap price. I hear similar things about the Next Gen series bluray. They alternated companies redoing the fx between seasons, so every other season is either really great, or really sucky. Such a shame.

Sorry i only have dvds. But i also read that the blu-ray was disapointing mainly as there was no directors cuts (but the picture sound is suposed to be brilliant)

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And on that thanks number 5 it would be nice to start the quiz up again.... maybe if others want who knows.

Great to see everyone back.

Now. On s4 best of both worlds epic as always. And i love family (no data is the only problem) the scene with jean-luc and robert with the silly fight which turns to picard finally confiding in someone about the borg exsperience" always brings me to tears.

Mr Gold, that is a very good scene and well acted, I had hoped they would have one or two more visits to Jean-luc's family, its sad how that turned out . I just watched Starship Rising- an interesting low budget space film. It's for true sifi people and is a little hard to follow at times. The music isn't bad and they do a good job with special effects for a low budget B class space film. Lots of swearing which really wasn't needed in most of the scenes

I dont see why films and series find it nessasary for constant bad language. It is not on.
I have not seen this....may be worth a look ;)

Yes with regards to picards family even a small scene over subspace communications would have been nice. And after generations the loss of all 3 of them was so traumatic for picard.

I have read over 70 reviews so far. Many quite negative. I am quite capable of knowing the difference between the movie series and the inferior Enterprise TV series. I may download a couple to see for myself, but I will be passing on these. In the end, I really prefer the Director's cuts of the films and so will stick to my dvd's of them.

I liked Polansky. I had hoped she'd soften a bit, but I am not sure she would have. The actress had that harshness in her, and most of her roles. McCoy dug at Spock to provoke his human feelings. Polansky picked just to be...mean sometimes it seems. But, I have seen the first and second seasons only once or so. Not my favorite TV viewing. I liked season 3 best as a season, and some of my favorite episodes are in season 4.

I get ya. With the movies the directors cut and se are better.

S1 & 2 had sone goddens but you are right s3 seems to be where the righters where at the best (3-6 and all good things)

Your reviews are incorrect, then. There's nothing "upscaled" about the movies on BD. They look as good as they ever will.

Well Each to their own Opinion.

@stinkor:
I agree with Mr.Gold, reviews are expressions of individual opinions, mostly not objective descriptions of some given fact or value, many depend on expectation and taste and other criteria, one might have learned...

Often enough I have experienced that a novel that was reviewed greatly, for example, still was not great for me: simply not my cup of tea, despite the reviews....
just my 2cents :)

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Mr Gold, nice cover thanks, I liked the music, the movie was somewhat of a let down, I enjoyed it when I first saw it but it didn't live up to what I had hoped. Still I do watch it from time to time.

The Director's cut holds up better. It...is a slow movie, and fairly clumsy with some of the dialog. Still better to reach for the stars and not quite get there than to put out..:erm: Battle Beyond The Stars, say...

They/It is not MY review. I have read reviews from folks who bought it on multiple sites. In the end though, I made my call based on only the theatrical cuts being presented. I own the dvd's of the first two movies as the SE. I cannot see buying the BluRay set if those are not present, especially if the majority of reviewers were not totally blown away. I may dl a version of the bluray for the sixth movie and see for myself. Reviews cannot be "right" or "wrong". It is entirely subjective, being that person's opinion. I would never base a buy on just one review. But, like I said, it doesn't matter in the end since the criteria I am using is not met.

Mr Gold, nice cover thanks, I liked the music, the movie was somewhat of a let down, I enjoyed it when I first saw it but it didn't live up to what I had hoped. Still I do watch it from time to time.

Yes I Liked It But Then...... I Saw Wrath Of Khan! ;)

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They/It is not MY review. I have read reviews from folks who bought it on multiple sites. In the end though, I made my call based on only the theatrical cuts being presented. I own the dvd's of the first two movies as the SE. I cannot see buying the BluRay set if those are not present, especially if the majority of reviewers were not totally blown away. I may dl a version of the bluray for the sixth movie and see for myself. Reviews cannot be "right" or "wrong". It is entirely subjective, being that person's opinion. I would never base a buy on just one review. But, like I said, it doesn't matter in the end since the criteria I am using is not met.

You Buy What Works Best For You. Y Pay For Something That You Will Not Like or Use. So Fair Play ;)

The Director's cut holds up better. It...is a slow movie, and fairly clumsy with some of the dialog. Still better to reach for the stars and not quite get there than to put out..:erm: Battle Beyond The Stars, say...

They/It is not MY review. I have read reviews from folks who bought it on multiple sites. In the end though, I made my call based on only the theatrical cuts being presented. I own the dvd's of the first two movies as the SE. I cannot see buying the BluRay set if those are not present, especially if the majority of reviewers were not totally blown away. I may dl a version of the bluray for the sixth movie and see for myself. Reviews cannot be "right" or "wrong". It is entirely subjective, being that person's opinion. I would never base a buy on just one review. But, like I said, it doesn't matter in the end since the criteria I am using is not met.

Regarding versions, recently I re-watched two ST:TMP versions that I dubbed to DVD from old VHSes: The original video release (of the "shorter" original theatrical version) and the ABC-TV broadcast (a "live" recording of the over-the-air version).

When you are more familiar with the widescreen versions, the pan-and-scans are interesting and amusing. Sometimes they pan, sometimes jump-cut back-and-forth across the original widescreen image, etc.

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well said MSuperfan

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The Director's cut holds up better. It...is a slow movie, and fairly clumsy with some of the dialog. Still better to reach for the stars and not quite get there than to put out..:erm: Battle Beyond The Stars, say...

They/It is not MY review. I have read reviews from folks who bought it on multiple sites. In the end though, I made my call based on only the theatrical cuts being presented. I own the dvd's of the first two movies as the SE. I cannot see buying the BluRay set if those are not present, especially if the majority of reviewers were not totally blown away. I may dl a version of the bluray for the sixth movie and see for myself. Reviews cannot be "right" or "wrong". It is entirely subjective, being that person's opinion. I would never base a buy on just one review. But, like I said, it doesn't matter in the end since the criteria I am using is not met.


You claimed that the effects were only rendered in SD for the theatrical blu-rays. This is a patent objective untruth, not subjective opinion. The effects weren't "rendered" at all.

Ok. From what I am reading, although the movies are remastered for bluyray, it's misleading. The fx are still only done at dvd level, and for live action scenes, a generous amount of noise reduction has been used. Many say excessively used rendering a bad and waxy looking image. Sadly it is sounding as if they are not worth hunting down for free let alone purchasing, even at a cheap price. I hear similar things about the Next Gen series bluray. They alternated companies redoing the fx between seasons, so every other season is either really great, or really sucky. Such a shame.

I am merely discussing the reviews I have read. I think you need to learn to chill out or something. Reviewers give subjective opinions. No more than that. And I am free to base my decision to buy on them, or not. I am also free to discuss that review, which I am doing. Or are you somehow worried that I am driving Paramount out of here as I did Willy? I mean, that's your problem, right? Not that some unknown people somewhere have an opinion you don't like. You are...disappointed. Get over it.

You claimed that ...

she did not claim, she was sort of quoting other people who had stated their opinion and told us about their opinion, without saying she agrees or disagrees? Sort of thinkiing out "loud" (writing) Remember she said: "the reviews I read..."

For STTMP Jerry Goldsmith wrote one of his finest and most effective scores :) a masterpiece

Indeed. I play at least the first half of it almost daily.

Excellent Amanda :) and Jerry Goldsmith created for STTMP some unique and most unusual sounds ever used in film music. They are extremley effective and best example for the creative genius of Jerry Goldsmith :)

she did not claim, she was sort of quoting other people who had stated their opinion and told us about their opinion, without saying she agrees or disagrees? Sort of thinkiing out "loud" (writing) Remember she said: "the reviews I read..."

Bull. You're now playing semantics. She came in and authoritatively stated that these reviews told her that the FX were "DVD level." It shows a serious lack of reading comprehension to get to that, and it's just plain misinformation.

Maybe I am overreacting. Part of it is that I'm seeing what looks to me like cliques and bullying going on, and I don't like it.

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I get ya. With the movies the directors cut and se are better.

You can argue the merits of the director's and SE as filmmaking, but there's just no way that a DVD-resolution at 480p is better-looking than a full 1080p. You can't actually make that claim. The TMP scan is marvelous.

First off i never said they look or sounded better. I just prefer the extra scenes ect.
And 2 just enough the convo is finished she is not getting the blu-ray so what more does it matter.

The Director's cut holds up better. It...is a slow movie, and fairly clumsy with some of the dialog. Still better to reach for the stars and not quite get there than to put out..:erm: Battle Beyond The Stars, say...

They/It is not MY review. I have read reviews from folks who bought it on multiple sites. In the end though, I made my call based on only the theatrical cuts being presented. I own the dvd's of the first two movies as the SE. I cannot see buying the BluRay set if those are not present, especially if the majority of reviewers were not totally blown away. I may dl a version of the bluray for the sixth movie and see for myself. Reviews cannot be "right" or "wrong". It is entirely subjective, being that person's opinion. I would never base a buy on just one review. But, like I said, it doesn't matter in the end since the criteria I am using is not met.

Battle beyond the Stars-now that's a "what if" movie, The music was great, the plot was good but too much like star wars a new hope which came out about the same time. The cast -John "boy" Walton as the lead star just killed the movie and the special effects at times were like old 50s space movies. I think if they released a new version with the original music and an updated plot with good special effects and good cast it could be a good to great movie.

Bull. You're now playing semantics. She came in and authoritatively stated that these reviews told her that the FX were "DVD level." It shows a serious lack of reading comprehension to get to that, and it's just plain misinformation.

Maybe I am overreacting. Part of it is that I'm seeing what looks to me like cliques and bullying going on, and I don't like it.

i am not playing anything. semantics are part of the process of communication and understanding, and texts (reviews too) are always open to interpretation. Any text can mis-inform, even if not intended. language and expression are far from being clear, will always be partly ambiguous. talking/reading always had the chance of being misunderstood...

I guess nobody likes bullying, specially when you are the part that is being bullied. ;)

And hey, sometimes all of us overreact. Good thing you notice.



@Max
Battle beyond the stars? John Boy???? Seriously???

Battle beyond the Stars-now that's a "what if" movie, The music was great, the plot was good but too much like star wars a new hope which came out about the same time. The cast -John "boy" Walton as the lead star just killed the movie and the special effects at times were like old 50s space movies. I think if they released a new version with the original music and an updated plot with good special effects and good cast it could be a good to great movie.

The plot is like Star Wars? I guess...I think the story is a pretty straightforward retelling of Seven Samurai / The Magnificent Seven (they even have one of the same actors!), but I guess Sador's laser thing is a tiny bit like the Death Star. Everything else seems to come from Kurosawa.

Ok. FROM WHAT i AM READING, although the movies are remastered for bluyray, it's misleading. The fx are still only done at dvd level, and for live action scenes, a generous amount of noise reduction has been used. Many say excessively used rendering a bad and waxy looking image. Sadly it is sounding as if they are not worth hunting down for free let alone purchasing, even at a cheap price. I hear similar things about the Next Gen series bluray. They alternated companies redoing the fx between seasons, so every other season is either really great, or really sucky. Such a shame.

Obviously highlighting in quote was not enough. Or perhaps you yourself had a tad bit of difficulty comprehending. I know of very few who would say quoting internet reviews was authoritative, especially if one were to go on and ask for opinions. Seems awfully soft for authoritative. But you know that too.

Battle Beyond was the first I came up with. Probably of the much better than it deserved Horner score. And that ship. A female voiced talking ship with boobs......
Surely there are worse, but the gist of my statement seems well understood.

...erm...

well
Data
Lore (Datas brother)
Dr. Soong (his father)
Arik Soong (ancestor of Dr. Soong)
B4
....that is about all I can think of?Very good. There are a few "cheat" answers too, but they're all either based on Data or Data being inhabited by someone else. :)

Here's another for anyone who cares:

Data and Lore are almost identical. But what distinct physical difference is there between them?

Here's another for anyone who cares:

Data and Lore are almost identical. But what distinct physical difference is there between them?

Lore laughs a lot? and lore uses contractions which data claims not being able to use?

...erm...

well
Data
Lore (Datas brother)
Dr. Soong (his father)
Arik Soong (ancestor of Dr. Soong)
B4
....that is about all I can think of?

... and if you include characters he's played-with, then Spot !

Here's another for anyone who cares:

Data and Lore are almost identical. But what distinct physical difference is there between them?

Other than the 2 pointed by sorei in "datalore" before fixing the problem lore had the twitch on his face which wesley pointed out alerting lore to hide it.

All good, but they have a physical difference as well. That is, something that is different about their bodies or construction as opposed to behavior. (They do have different phase discriminating amplifiers in their positronic brains, but that's not the answer I'm after. :-) )

@Number Five

....that is a challenge then.... (at least for me, I bet robncat will know!)

I figured it should be a tricky one to try and stump the experts. :)

Well it did even dr soong could not tell the difference "often wrong soong"
"Often wrong's got a broken heart. Can't even tell his sons apart"

... and if you include characters he's played-with, then Spot !

Does a Fistfull of Data's count?

Does a Fistfull of Data's count?

:D i like that...

Yes good one blue mountain.

The plot is like Star Wars? I guess...I think the story is a pretty straightforward retelling of Seven Samurai / The Magnificent Seven (they even have one of the same actors!), but I guess Sador's laser thing is a tiny bit like the Death Star. Everything else seems to come from Kurosawa.


Indeed it's Kurosawa's Seven Samurai. And Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress" was the Star Wars storyline.

All good, but they have a physical difference as well. That is, something that is different about their bodies or construction as opposed to behavior. (They do have different phase discriminating amplifiers in their positronic brains, but that's not the answer I'm after. :-) )

Per Season Four, Episode Three, "Brothers" Dr. Noonien Soong states, 'the two of you are virtually identical, except for a bit of programming'

Does a Fistfull of Data's count?Sort of, but that's why I wrote "There are a few "cheat" answers too, but they're all either based on Data or Data being inhabited by someone else." Seeing as the characters all looked like Data even if they didn't act like him,, I felt like it might be unfair to make people list them all. :)

The answer to the "physical difference" question is that Lore's ears are removable (as seen in Datalore) and Data's are not (as stated by him in Unification.)

The answer to the "physical difference" question is that Lore's ears are removable (as seen in Datalore) and Data's are not (as stated by him in Unification.)

i would not have figured that

Any ideas where the third Data came from?

Any ideas where the third Data came from?

erm...?
as in... who do you mean now? *confused* (have not had enough coffee yet apparently)

Theone
Are you refering to b4?

Theone
Are you refering to b4?

Yes :)

Dr Soong Created B-4 On Omicron Theta he was one of three failed prototypes before lore was sucessful.

i would not have figured thatMe neither, to be honest. I saw someone else ask it on a message board once and I thought it was such a clever real-deep-Trek-knowledge type question that I made sure I remembered it for later use. :)

erm...?
as in... who do you mean now? *confused* (have not had enough coffee yet apparently)


It's the 'dimwit' version of Data who ended up with Data's legacy at the end of Nemesis, hopefully to become Data himself, but we'll never know what happened since they stopped making those flicks.




Dr Soong Created B-4 On Omicron Theta he was one of three failed prototypes before lore was sucessful.


Ok, that's the logical explanation, but I can't recall if this info was imparted in the movie, or whether it's implied.

It is imparted in the film. Also, if you are wanting more, I highly suggest reading the trilogy of novels Star Trek Cold Equations. If you are a fan of Data, I think you'll like them.

Ok, that's the logical explanation, but I can't recall if this info was imparted in the movie, or whether it's implied.

yes i remember, i was confused and thought there was yet another one!

I THINK I remember that was being mentioned though, in the movie, maybe even by Data himself? Not sure anymore...

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It is imparted in the film. Also, if you are wanting more, I highly suggest reading the trilogy of novels Star Trek Cold Equations. If you are a fan of Data, I think you'll like them.

oh yes.

Me neither, to be honest. I saw someone else ask it on a message board once and I thought it was such a clever real-deep-Trek-knowledge type question that I made sure I remembered it for later use. :)


Lore took his ears off? I'll have to watch that episode again!

Also, Data's Emotion Chip was not compatible with Lore. Which may possibly mean there are some differences in their circuitry.

And, Data was fully functional. ["I'm talking downtown" to quote the host of "Afternoon Yak", a character from a Simpsons episode.] So he keeps insisting. I'll take his word for it. Lore on the other hand never made that particular boast leading to some speculation on dodgy forums.

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Cheers for the Nemesis clarification, folks.

Well, didn't Tasha find out first hand about his functionality? That is the impression I always had.

Well, didn't Tasha find out first hand about his functionality? That is the impression I always had.

"It never happned!" Remember. Lol

"It never happned!" Remember. Lol


oh well :D
depends on the defintion, i guess.
one of the best things that never happened, that happened. ;)

oh well :D
depends on the defintion, i guess.
one of the best things that never happened, that happened. ;)


Indeed we'll never know exactly what didn't take place. Scholars for decades will be asking "We've no idea if they didn't start on page 1 of the Kama Sutra and work their way through."

Indeed we'll never know exactly what didn't take place. Scholars for decades will be asking "We've no idea if they didn't start on page 1 of the Kama Sutra and work their way through."

Well, Data would be able to go through the complete book without effort, no doubt, and I absolutely can see Tasha being able to handle this, too - she is that tough! The only question would be, did they have enough time during "The Naked Now", before the influence of the virus was going away... The Kama Sutra isn't a quick crash course, exactly. ;)

...The only question would be, did they have enough time during "The Naked Now", before the influence of the virus was going away... The Kama Sutra isn't a quick crash course, exactly. ;)

maybe Q could have arranged for some extra time ;)

...it is time for me to start rewatching Voyager :D

it is a good feeling starting to rewatch, knowing you have a lot ahead (at least for me it is)
the feeling turns to something more sad towards the end ;)

Skip the end? :-P

I love voyager. It started slow but when they hit borg terrority and seven joined. Kes was a bit annoying. I also liked some of the new alien species in this series (kazon, hirogen and viddians)

Skip the end? :-P

lol
...nah. I am tough, I can survive this ;)

@Mr.Gold:
Kes had some good stories in the novels. I liked the Kes-Episode when she came back so very angry.

It was okay but it was not to strong for me. I loved the barcley episodes.

I never got into Voyager, watch a few early episodes and lost interest, I was much more interested in DS9 at the time. I will have to look into Voyager again. Anyone hear what the story line for the 3rd new Star Trek movie is going to be?

Anyone hear what the story line for the 3rd new Star Trek movie is going to be?

?Star Trek 3? Gets Three Writers; Aiming for 2016 Release Date (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-3-writers-release-date-2016/)

That's All I Know

wow....would be GREAT, although, Dorns enthusiasm notwithstanding, this may or may not be...

True. But A Worf Series Would Be So Cool!

Yes it would, I would wait in line for hours to see that- well maybe if there was a coffee shop where I could sit and wait :)

maybe Q could have arranged for some extra time ;)

Give a whole new implication to the term "pocket universe" ....


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Seeing as that was published two years ago and still no hint of anything official I feel safe saying it isn't happening.

Seeing as that was published two years ago and still no hint of anything official I feel safe saying it isn't happening.

sadly, yes.

This thread needs to be transferred over to the DISCUSSION venue, as there is only talking on here, and no discussion of TREK music at all! Amanda was outspoken about this on other threads, and threatened to have Sancio shut down the thread unless off topic discussions were stopped! Even though the discussions here are trek based, it still should be moved over to the discussion area!

Any news on the upcoming LLL Enterprise (Bakula) Soundtrack Collection?

Yes Greg you are correct, we do need to discuss Star Trek music more.

On the other hand, Sanico and Jessie both decided to keep it here and open. I did suggest it, a long while back and they made a decision to keep this here. A decision Wil Gweggy approved of.

I have not heard about Enterprise but certainly am eager for info.

Ok then... here's a topic:

How many different variations/versions of the main theme from The Inner Light do you have? This is one of the most beautiful themes in STNG in my opinion (but that is also open for discussion;) )

The Inner Light 02:28 (Guitar by Gregg Nestor and Flute by Jessica Pierce) (MP3)
The Inner Light 02:11 (Piano Solo Version by Dennis McCarthy) (MP3)
Orchestral Suite from The Inner Light 06:36 (FLAC) (from the Best of Star Trek, 30th Anniversary)
Theme from The Inner Light 02:50 (FLAC) (from GNP CRESCENDOs STNG Vol. 4)
Lullaby #1 (solo flute) (00:50) (from LaLa-Land's STNG Vol. 1)

I have no idea. I had a single vewrsion of it but may not have kept it. I do not collect all the compilation and cover albums

Thanks for the helpful insights ;)

I know there was a single track posted here, main theme from Inner light. I do not seem to have kept that. I am sure there are various renditions on the big box sets, from the episode and I'd have those. Any cover produced for the compilation albums I'd not have heard. So, what other versions are there. You only asked what I have, not what I thought of what I don't have.

I Only Have What Is On The Compilations lol
It's A Lovely Theme But I Would Not Want It Lots Of Times :p

Ok, ok... i TRIED starting a discussion on Star Trek music, but the only two that has joined so far wasn't particularly interested. I also left an opening for suggestions on other beautiful STNG themes, but...

Ah well :) at least i tried

I Also Read Somewhere That There Is A Voyager Cd Coming Out Thru La La Land.... I Would Love the Score to End Game On There :D

Would love a proper Voyager release like the LaLa-Land STNG Vol. 1. God knows there's enough good music for a couple of those :)

Yes I Read (And I Am Looking For the Source) It Was 3CD Vol.1 :)

Ok, ok... i TRIED starting a discussion on Star Trek music,

i will be killed for that, but actually i am not at all into trek music. i am into almost everything else trek related of course, but the music has never really interested me....
*running-and-hiding*

... there's nowhere to hide, you know. I will find you...

;)

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nevermind.

Apologies if this has already been posted (in one of the other eleventy-five skabillion posts of this thread!).

Fascinating video shows Star Trek?s original theme song?s surprising musical origins | Blastr (http://www.blastr.com/2014-1-15/fascinating-video-shows-star-trek%E2%80%99s-original-theme-song%E2%80%99s-surprising-musical-origins)

Just for fun ...

p.s. I found this just by chance while searching the InterWebs trying to find a wav or flac of the original 60's TV theme w/Shatner's voice-over to add to my collection.

Apologies if this has already been posted (in one of the other eleventy-five skabillion posts of this thread!).

Fascinating video shows Star Trek?s original theme song?s surprising musical origins | Blastr (http://www.blastr.com/2014-1-15/fascinating-video-shows-star-trek%E2%80%99s-original-theme-song%E2%80%99s-surprising-musical-origins)

Just for fun ...
Hey, that's great stuff, smartin! Thanks for the link, I didn't see that before. And, while I'm also somewhat familiar with the symphonic works of Beethoven, Brahms and Mahler, I have to admit I wasn't aware of the connection regarding the opening fanfare of star trek.

One nitpick, though: as stated in the video, Alexander Courage wrote the trek main theme "circa 1966", but I have to disagree. It was more like 1964, the year the first pilot "The Cage" was produced! Other than that a great video!

Just started enterprise again. Lol. I still love this show even tho it has a lot of errors and stuff not quite acurate in the trek universe.
S4 is my fav all the mini arcs ( 2 and 3 parters)

i will be killed for that, but actually i am not at all into trek music. i am into almost everything else trek related of course, but the music has never really interested me....
*running-and-hiding*

This thread is for ANYTHING Trekkish, I think. Your interests might be costuming or novelizations or hairlines, just so it's TREK.


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Exsactly. This Is The "Official Star Trek" Thread. Anything Trek Can Be Shared & Discussed Here.

Apologies if this has already been posted (in one of the other eleventy-five skabillion posts of this thread!).

Fascinating video shows Star Trek?s original theme song?s surprising musical origins | Blastr (http://www.blastr.com/2014-1-15/fascinating-video-shows-star-trek%E2%80%99s-original-theme-song%E2%80%99s-surprising-musical-origins)

Just for fun ...


p.s. I found this just by chance while searching the InterWebs trying to find a wav or flac of the original 60's TV theme w/Shatner's voice-over to add to my collection.

Very cute. The Brahms piece is the only one I'm not in intimate terms with.

Probably a generational thing that the whole walk-through-a-building format was detrimental and annoying to me.

Everybody else enjoy the lens flare at the end when the soprano kicks in?

Thanks for sharing this little vignette!


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Just started enterprise again. Lol. I still love this show even tho it has a lot of errors and stuff not quite acurate in the trek universe.
S4 is my fav all the mini arcs ( 2 and 3 parters)

Their biggest mistake was having Archer hanging in his quarters all the time. That's not very Star-Trek-Captain-y.
And from a story point of view, he should be at the center of the action, like at the start of an episode, not have people come to him with some problem. He isn't the friggin doctor or counselor.

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Everybody else enjoy the lens flare at the end when the soprano kicks in?

:D

@olaf,

sad thing was that I was not able to hang together with archer, in his quarters ;)


I have started rewatching Voyager, season 2 started... and again, I love it. I somehow did not remember the episode of Harry Kim being in an alternate reality, quite enjoyed that one...

So i watched Star Trek Voyager Resolutions again yesterday (they one were Chakotay and Janeway are sick and get left behind on the planet) and I'm real happy for Robert Beltram that he can play some emotion, especially when the two sit at the table inside. This is were i feel we really get to know this Character - the show needed more of this!

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Exsactly. This Is The "Official Star Trek" Thread. Anything Trek Can Be Shared & Discussed Here.

my big affirmative YUP!

i am into 3rd season now...

Olaf, agreed, that one was real good to get to know the persons :)
i liked the one where Harry thought he was not a human, too.

One of my Star Trek 'White Whale' soundtrack items has always been the "NX-01 Getting ruined" music during the episode Azati Prime.

Scene is here for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eV8qR2IEHk#t=168

Has this music ever been released?
I don't think so, but I figured I'd see what people know..

Not in any official capacity, no. And I have seen no promo for that episode. The only official album released thus far is for the pilot, Broken Bow. There are composer's score promos available for Silent Enemy, Canamar, Regeneration, Similitude, In A Mirror Darkly & These Are The Voyages. There are also a handful of samples including tracks for Acquisition, Desert Crossing and Horizon. That's all I have ever come across but that does not mean there are not others out there. Rumor has it both Voyager and Enterprise will be receiving box releases at some point.

There are composer's score promos available for Silent Enemy, Canamar, Regeneration, Similitude, In A Mirror Darkly & These Are The Voyages. There are also a handful of samples including tracks for Acquisition, Desert Crossing and Horizon.

Thanks very much for the info, I had no idea there were rumblings about potentially more complete releases.

Good to hear.

The only Enterprise music I've ever seen is the broken bow release..
Do you know where I can find these score promos you speak of? or can you possibly upload them?

I listen to Spock vs Q recording last night. Williamtaylor1969 (Greg) Thank you very much for posting it .

Just started enterprise again. Lol. I still love this show even tho it has a lot of errors and stuff not quite acurate in the trek universe.
S4 is my fav all the mini arcs ( 2 and 3 parters)

I agree, i am watching it now, and I love the show.

Its Nice to Rewatch The "Old" Favs LOL

at the moment, stress levels sadly are ridiculously high in my life, and i really love rewatching this stuff, star trek, stargate, it calms me....i can really enjoy being with those "buddies" ;)

at the moment, stress levels sadly are ridiculously high in my life, and i really love rewatching this stuff, star trek, stargate, it calms me....i can really enjoy being with those "buddies" ;)

I'll try my best not to stress you out, sorei. :)

I watched the latter Star Trek series, just to watch 7 of 9 and the Vulcan T'Pau in those tight Star Trek uniforms...

WOOT WOOT!!

:)

sorei, I can totally relate with you about the stress, before I retired my stress levels were through the roof. I feel so much better now both physically and mentally. I use to watch star trek to escape the stress now I just watch it to enjoy it.

Thanks very much for the info, I had no idea there were rumblings about potentially more complete releases.

Good to hear.

The only Enterprise music I've ever seen is the broken bow release..
Do you know where I can find these score promos you speak of? or can you possibly upload them?

Several members here have posted them in various threads. I have just put new links into my thread here: Thread 119593

I'll try my best not to stress you out, sorei. :)


If I was vulcan, I'd say that is agreeable ;)


@Max:
retirement will have to wait a while I am afraid....until then I try to get a supervision from my old Mentor Spock :D

there is an amazing amount of episodes in season 3 Voyager i just plain forgot.... I LIKE season 3, has real good episodes...

I don't know why but season 3 was when I began to really like Bab5, DS9 and NG prior to that it was alright but not really (as spock would say) interesting.

....i was totally hooked on B5 when Sheridan began to transform, but I was in love from the start.....

THEY"VE RELEAAAAAAAAAAAAASED IT !!!!!!!!!!

film music | movie music| film score | Star Trek Enterprise Collection - Dennis McCarthy - John Frizzell - David Bell - Limited Edition (http://www.lalalandrecords.com/Site/STEC.html)

[CENTER] THEY"VE RELEAAAAAAAAAAAAASED IT !!!!!!!!!!


No Azati Prime. Not interested. Brutal.

No Azati Prime. Not interested. Brutal.

Yes, I am a bit disappointed, especially we get much what was released as promos already and Velton Ray the-best-of-the-whole Bunch is wholly under represented

But At Least There Is Some New Stuff ;)

I predict a second volume, which will cover more material, including "Azati Prime". In that case, from a marketing point of view, it makes sense to keep some of the more spectacular and popular scores back for later releases. You don't shoot your wad all at once!

Sounds very interesting

I predict a second volume, which will cover more material, including "Azati Prime". In that case, from a marketing point of view, it makes sense to keep some of the more spectacular and popular scores back for later releases. You don't shoot your wad all at once!

2015 there will be
Enterprise Vol 2.
TNG Vol. 2
and Voyager Vol. 1 :)

2015 there will be
Enterprise Vol 2.
TNG Vol. 2
and Voyager Vol. 1 :)
THAT'S the spirit... :)

indeed, idic...

and i am at the end of season 5 of voyager :D

indeed, idic...

and i am at the end of season 5 of voyager :D
Then greetings to the delta quadrant! :)

And don't forget (to quote Captain Janeway): "There's coffee out there...!" (Don't remember exactly when she said that, must have been in the first season).

Then greetings to the delta quadrant! :)

And don't forget (to quote Captain Janeway): "There's coffee out there...!" (Don't remember exactly when she said that, must have been in the first season).

"There's coffee in that nebula..."

I didn't take much interest in Voyager but now you have peaked my interest :)

I didn't take much interest in Voyager but now you have peaked my interest :)

Or maybe PERKED my interest? Or was that comment GROUNDS for complaint?

Drippingly yours,

Mark
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I didn't take much interest in Voyager but now you have peaked my interest :)

:D
season 6 now.
Watch Neelix, the great re-inventor of coffee *lol*

I tend to stay away from coffee, when I was younger it made me hyper, not a good thing for a cop. Now that I'm old and retired it tends to make me want to pee every 5 minutes :)

@Max

I know exactly what you mean :D

i just watched an excellent borg episode with seven 3 members of her former unimatrix. I liked that episode a lot.

Oh Yes "Survival Instinct" S6E02?

are we sure Voyager volume 1 is being released in 2015@ From my understanding it was supposed to be released this year but never happened

I tend to stay away from coffee, when I was younger it made me hyper, not a good thing for a cop. Now that I'm old and retired it tends to make me want to pee every 5 minutes :)

Anybody else remember the "Coffee Guy" sketches on MADTV?

https://www.google.com/#q=%22Coffee+Guy%22+sketches+on+MADTV&safe=off&tbm=vid

One sketch he had to take a urine test for employment and the executive said "Man, his urine is 100% Arabica!"

Sometimes I come close ...


Mark
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Oh Yes "Survival Instinct" S6E02?

indeed... :-)

Indeed One Great Episode, S6 Was An Excellent Season

There's more to expect from Lalaland in 2015, according to trekcore:


Star Trek: The Next Generation Collection - Volume 2 is due for next year, a long-awaited follow-up to their 2011 TNG release.
Star Trek: Voyager Collection is also in the works for 2015, expanding La-La Land'sTrek offerings into the Delta Quadrant.
Star Trek: Enterprise Collection - Volume 2 is expected around this time next winter and offer more music from the 22nd Century.



source:
"Enterprise" Soundtrack Available Now � TNG Vol. 2, ENT Vol. 2, and "Voyager" Albums Coming in 2015 | TrekCore Blog (http://trekcore.com/blog/2014/12/enterprise-soundtrack-available-now-%C2%B7-tng-vol-2-ent-vol-2-and-voyager-albums-coming-in-2015/)

Just started watching some star treks again.

Of course best of both worlds.

And....

http://media3.giphy.com/media/vfiMa4Q4c7awg/200_s.gif
?

Just started watching some star treks again.

Of course best of both worlds.

And....

http://media3.giphy.com/media/vfiMa4Q4c7awg/200_s.gif
?

The second one is the cliffhanger scene from the never-aired episode "All You Can Eat - Part 1". It was eventually dumped by Paramount and was replaced by the lackluster Finale "All Good Things".

Lol.
No not all good things. But i will watch tjat later.

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I feel we need to get back on track here.
Sci-fi dicussions and a re-vamp of the pic/quote game.

If your in then lets begin.

Quote.
"There was a young lady from venus, Whose body was shaped like a...."

Who said this??
What series and episode??
Can you finish th scene??

Lol.
No not all good things. But i will watch tjat later.

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I feel we need to get back on track here.
Sci-fi dicussions and a re-vamp of the pic/quote game.

If your in then lets begin.

Quote.
"There was a young lady from venus, Whose body was shaped like a...."

Who said this??
What series and episode??
Can you finish th scene??

Obviously Data began to say it ... I believe Geordie stopped him.

But which episode? That's the question!


Mark
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Lol.
No not all good things. But i will watch tjat later.

---------- Post added at 11:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 PM ----------

I feel we need to get back on track here.
Sci-fi dicussions and a re-vamp of the pic/quote game.

If your in then lets begin.

Quote.
"There was a young lady from venus, Whose body was shaped like a...."

Who said this??
What series and episode??
Can you finish th scene??


Data, Star Trek The Next Generation, "The Naked Now":
Captain Picard, "Captain To Security, come in!"
Data: "Did I say something wrong?"
Worf: "I don't understand their humor either."

Mark Your Correct In It Beinging Data Who Said It. But Not Geordi Who Stopped Him


Data, Star Trek The Next Generation, "The Naked Now":
Captain Picard, "Captain To Security, come in!"
Data: "Did I say something wrong?"
Worf: "I don't understand their humor either."
Of Course!! LOL
One of the Funnist Scenes From One of the Earliest Epsiodes LOL .

=================================================
Okay Gang Another One For You.

Please Spoiler Your Answers So As to Let Others Contribute.

QUOTE!
"He doesn't strike me as someone who follows orders blindly."

Who Says This?
What Episode & Series??



PICTURE!
Name This Episode and Explain the Scene




If You Are Enjoying the Game Revival I Am Pleasesd If Not......

*Bonus If You Know This Episode*

Well I can do the pictures...


That would be Future's End - they're enjoying the emotional rollercoaster of US Soaps!

And Picard is from Timescape.. it's really quite hypnotic...!

Quite Right qbie :)

Has anyone seen the new S7 TNG in blue ray yet I think its awesome so far.

Rewatching Enterprise right now :) Must say I was far too opinionated against this show and also
it screws a bit with Star Trek events both Aquisition and Regeneration (Ferengi, Borg) belong to
the best of their kind if you ask me. I actually haven't been so scared of the Borg in a looooong time,
wasn't scared on Voyager but here you get that good old vibe from Best Of Both Worlds again.
And spending the first 10 minutes of the episode without the main cast to be seen, that was just ballsy
and I applaud them for that!

@olaf:

sounds weird maybe but i was asking myself if i want to rewatch tng or enterprise yet again....(I finished voyager and liked it a lot more than while watching the first time)

one episode a day keeps the doctor away ;)

rewatching has merits. i can enjoy much more.

sorei don't over watch Star Trek or you could find yourself floating in space. :)

sorei don't over watch Star Trek or you could find yourself floating in space. :)

right now that might not be such a bad idea, a change of perspective ;)

right now that might not be such a bad idea, a change of perspective ;)

A change of oxygen availability too. :P

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@olaf:

sounds weird maybe but i was asking myself if i want to rewatch tng or enterprise yet again....(I finished voyager and liked it a lot more than while watching the first time)

one episode a day keeps the doctor away ;)

rewatching has merits. i can enjoy much more.

I haven't made up my mind but I think I even might like Voyager better than TNG. I'd never thought I'd say that.
Man, you know what I wish right now? That Wesley as we've seen him at Starfleet Academy would be there on Voyager instead of e.g. Harry Kim. Wesley being a genius would be toned down by Belana Torres and Janeway because they are just as smart and as an Ensign from Starfleet Academy Wes couldn't stick out as the (annoying) smart kid anymore (see below though).

Can you see (Starfleet Academy) Wesley walking through the corridors with Tom Paris? Can you see how Chakotay is his mentor (instead of Janeway (not really) being Harries?) Him and Seven could have a cool working relationship, both being pretty smart and kinda outsiders because of it. Wes and the Doc could have some relationship too, Wes could be drawn to hang out at sickbay more then necessary, because it makes him feel like being back on the Enterprise. And so on...

I think of Wesley replacing Harry Kim perhaps mostly because Harry is so annoyingly green and he really doesn't bring that much to the table. It's weird they decided the same for Neelix, they decided all he's useful for is moral and cooking. Two non-essential crew members. Wesley wouldn't be like that. Just as smart as Belana, Janeway and Seven he'd actually be useful.

That could work the doctor and seven would be like data to wesley.
But.... i would miss the amount of time poor harry was killed and brought back kind of the south park kenny of star trek! :D

LOL :D

LOVE LOVE LOVE THE MUSIC!!!!

Paul Baillargeon - Rajiin (Star Trek Enterprise)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXrRfT8_aWQ&feature=youtu.be

Any idea of these will be available on iTunes?

Just picked up the 1st season of Star Trek Enterprise, will start watching it after Christmas- hope I grow to like it.

Just picked up the 1st season of Star Trek Enterprise, will start watching it after Christmas- hope I grow to like it.

you do not need to like archer as much as i do, you can like T'Pol for example ;)

I liked Odo right away so I can learn to like just about anyone :)

@max

i like his humour and wits :D

The series gets better after the 1st season.

Seems that is true with most of the series-must have to grow on you then you can't keep away :)

But once you've watched it, you can't un-watch it!

The series gets better after the 1st season.

I don't feel season one is that bad...

Breaking the Ice, Fortunate Son, Silent Enemy, Dear Doctor, Shuttlepod One (especially!) and Desert Crossing are all great episodes.

Watched Star Trek The search for Spock last night, I remember the 1st time watching it and feeling great that Spock was back but then Kirk had to destroy the Enterprise. I remember it brought a tear to my eye like the lost of an old friend. I thought it was the end of the series-how could you have Star Trek without the Enterprise? My wife held my hand and said it will be alright :)

Could be worse. You could well-up at the end of every single episode of Overhaulin' like I do. :)

Those are some very nice cars when they are done with them

hi can anyone send me the tracks from the the original star trek series the squire of gothos source musics and who mourns for adoronnis just by themselves? I can seem to play either one of those in the 10 disc box set. thanks hgohari73

Quiz! Dr. Crusher talking dirty? The Captain took too much viagra? Tell us!

Dr. Crusther: "Jean Luc. I'm telling you. This is over 24 hours of growth."

Which episode?

Season 4 Episode 14, "Clues"

Quiz! Dr. Crusher talking dirty? The Captain took too much viagra? Tell us!

Dr. Crusther: "Jean Luc. I'm telling you. This is over 24 hours of growth."

Which episode?

Clues After They Lost 24hrs Memory. They Later Find Out The Alien Species (Paxon Who Control Troi) Wipes All Memory Of Their Encounter Except Data. He Obeyd Picard Order to Never Say What Happned However To Many "Clues" Where Left Leading to Them Having to Do It All Again.

And The Growth Is Crusher's Moss Samples

Oh Mr Gold you are so smart :) I have started watching Star Trek Enterprise-the adventure begins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whay!!! In The Zone!

Season 4 Episode 14, "Clues"


Clues After They Lost 24hrs Memory. They Later Find Out The Alien Species (Paxon Who Control Troi) Wipes All Memory Of Their Encounter Except Data. He Obeyd Picard Order to Never Say What Happned However To Many "Clues" Where Left Leading to Them Having to Do It All Again.

And The Growth Is Crusher's Moss Samples

Dat is correct!

And here I thought it was the Wesley-grows-cannabis episode ...


Mark
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Moss Is Code Sshh!! ;)

Hey! don't Bogard that Moss!!!

Well, I finally started watching Star Trek Enterprise today. Hope it was worth picking up season 1 & 2. I was surprised to see a Klingon in the 1st episode.

It's entertaining, but another Timeline buster.

...BUT it has Scott Bakula....

;)

i understand though you might not be able to njoy him as much as I did.


I watched and enjoyed Jolene Blalock (T'Pol) in Stargate, too.

So far it's not bad but I see what you mean about the timeline. Didn't like the Vulcan officer at 1st but she does look good.

giver her some time ;)
i think she might grow on you!

sorei, she did seem better in the 3rd episode.