Making my weekly contribution to the cause of "taking thread further off topic"... ;)

Having heard Horner's Avatar samples, I can't deny that I'm disappointed with the direction he's taken. I was praying - as I hope a lot of people were - that James Horner working with James Cameron on a massive Sci-fi movie might just be that score that brings back good old-fashioned symphonic scoring the way Star Wars did in 1977. Sadly it's not time yet, so it appears, as Horner has been dragged down the ethnic percussion / banging noise / wailing vocalist route that's so well trodden already.

As far as style goes, it's a giant modern disappointment of a score. BUT, I have absolutely no doubt that Horner is still firing on all cylinders underneath it. This is going to be a great score masked as a crap score, if that makes any sense. It will satisfy the sound "requirements" for a contemporary sci-fi score, but the heart beating within will be pure.

It's just going to take a leap of faith to enjoy it, I feel.

One day, the new Star Wars will happen and we can put this sorry era of scoring behind us. It seems to be getting closer and closer by the day, but the day isn't today and the score isn't Avatar. It's going to conform, but challenge the boundaries of conforming. The true revolutionary will come some other time.

I wonder who will be writing it... Horner? Williams? Verta? Giacchino? Arnold? Or will some complete unknown step in at the right time on the right movie with the right director, and again make history?

Guys just posted my Toshihiko Sahashi Thread:
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Please contribute anything you don't see posted and PM me about anything you think you want to upgrade the quality of. Hopefully all the links work :)

Hello everyone. I'm curious, were the rest of the Giant Robo soundtracks ever posted? In better quality than 128k mp3s, I mean?

Nope, although I recently acquired OST V in VBR. I'll try to post it soon. Plus 1, 2, and 3 were posted in the lossless thread, I can re-post 1 and 3 in VBR as well.

I might be able to help with this in a few weeks, depending on finances... I may be able to obtain copies of the missing soundtracks (4, 5, 6, 7) - if I do, I'll happily get them uploaded in lossless somehow. They're rare enough for FLAC to be very, very worthwhile.

Himitsu the Revelation OST:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WBKHWI0S

Composed by Yoshihisa Hirano.

There's a track specifically named "Chase", if anyone is looking for Chase music. A similar track to that is "The Number Nines"

Yes, I posted OSTs 1 and 3 in that lossless thread. :) Thanks for OST 2, Sirusjr.

I can post lossless versions of at least some of the rest... maybe even all of them... but I can't remember what I have! I was digging through a box in the closet the other day and found the GinRei with Blue Eyes OST, something I bought a while back and had completely forgotten about. And then I remembered having at least one other GR soundtrack, if not several besides 1 and 3... I'll keep searching and report my findings here, okay?

Oh yeah I didn't recognize your avatar :P Still maybe I will post the others again for completion sake here so 1-3 and V are together in good quality mp3.

Alright, so i've seen a lot of discussion in here recently, since i joined on movie and anime soundtracks. While I love these discussions, especially on the topic of virtual orchestras.

So i'd like to do, as tangotreats said so eloquently "take this thread further off topic"

I was wondering if anyone knows a lot about composing in the video game industry. I'm very interested in writing for video games personally, and, i'm completely unknowledgable in the topic. I will readily say that i am completely new to anything that has to do with it. I've made some songs that would fit in various situations (nothing good enough to be posted) in games, but i really don't know more than how to work with that.

In light of all this, does anyone have some knowledge in the area of video game music composing? My apologies for taking us wildly off topic.

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Thanks for this Arthierr. Now I don't need to go through the whole thing. I just trust your judgement:).

And as for Avatar, I do believe in Horner. Before any samples came out I was rather "meh" about this score (and I'm still "meh" about the movie, the plot looks so generic, so trivial), but after samples my hopes went quite high. Or at least higher than before;). Different kinds of voices (really nice idea), ethnicity, orchestra, nice theme or two. It really looks good. My problem is only - for now - lenght of an album. Again almost 80 minutes from Horner... So the music better be awesome. You hear me James?;)

And I didn't say it before, but it's cool to have pro-composer here, who came to say more than "please remove links to my music";).

I can post lossless versions of at least some of the rest... maybe even all of them... but I can't remember what I have! And then I remembered having at least one other GR soundtrack, if not several besides 1 and 3... I'll keep searching and report my findings here, okay?

THIS IS GREAT NEWS INDEED!!

Please post them in this thread too as soon you catch them. You'll make a lot of orchestral music enthusiasts very, very happy.


I might be able to help with this in a few weeks, depending on finances... I may be able to obtain copies of the missing soundtracks (4, 5, 6, 7) - if I do, I'll happily get them uploaded in lossless somehow. They're rare enough for FLAC to be very, very worthwhile.

Same as above. ;) Unless Grandis post them 1st, in which case he'll notably save your money.



One day, the new Star Wars will happen and we can put this sorry era of scoring behind us. It seems to be getting closer and closer by the day, but the day isn't today and the score isn't Avatar. It's going to conform, but challenge the boundaries of conforming. The true revolutionary will come some other time.

I wonder who will be writing it... Horner? Williams? Verta? Giacchino? Arnold? Or will some complete unknown step in at the right time on the right movie with the right director, and again make history?

Actually, Stargate and ID4 gave me the same musical orgasms I had with those eighties scores. I then believed it was the beginning of a sort of musical "Renaissance" in Hollywood, but this trend didn't really took off. You can tell it by the fact that Roland Emmerich (the director) now often teams up with Harald Kloser, which really can't hold the candle to David Arnold.



I was wondering if anyone knows a lot about composing in the video game industry. I'm very interested in writing for video games personally, and, i'm completely unknowledgable in the topic. I will readily say that i am completely new to anything that has to do with it. I've made some songs that would fit in various situations (nothing good enough to be posted) in games, but i really don't know more than how to work with that.

In light of all this, does anyone have some knowledge in the area of video game music composing? My apologies for taking us wildly off topic.

Dude, you're in the wrong thread. This thread is for posting orchestral music, and having discussions about it, not for specifically talking and giving advices about writing for video games. Even though there are some people who did this here: Mr Tilton, Streich, Mathazzar, and even me (about 10 years ago for amateur self-made games), this is not really the place for this. You should ask in the Anime & Video Game Music section.

Of course, Google is also your friend, plus you can learn a lot by reading interviews of composers.



Himitsu the Revelation OST:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WBKHWI0S

Composed by Yoshihisa Hirano.

There's a track specifically named "Chase", if anyone is looking for Chase music. A similar track to that is "The Number Nines"

This was already posted here by Sirusjr, but it's a great initiative anyway, very nice score indeed. Thank you very much and welcome to the thread :)

THIS IS GREAT NEWS INDEED!!

Grandis... Please... post... Giant... Robo... Lossless... Can't... Breathe... TOO... EXCITED!!!!!!!!


Actually, Stargate and ID4 gave me the same musical orgasms I had with those eighties scores. I then believed it was the beginning of a sort of musical "Renaissance" in Hollywood, but this trend didn't really took off. You can tell it by the fact that Roland Emmerich (the director) now often teams up with Harald Kloser, which really can't hold the candle to David Arnold.


In hindsight, those wonderful scores were merely the last gasps of the previous renaissance. There was a lot of great stuff around then - back when Zimmer was an option not a necessity.

If those scores had come today they may have trigged the renaissance... but they weren't trailblazers for their time - they were just particularly good scores in a style that was still kind-of "current" for that kind of film. This was an era where Jerry Goldsmith was still around, John Williams was working hard and frequently, and Basil Poledouris still had a few sci-fi masterpieces in him. I remember in the mid nineties, feeling really depressed about the state of film scoring... Little did I know how much worse it would get...

Ah, sorry. I should've checked first.

Thanks for the welcome.

Thanks to Arthierr for Garasu no Kintai (Kousuke Yamashita) and Battle Royale (Masamichi Amano).

Thanks also to tangotreats for Aurora (Masamichi Amano)



I'm just starting to listen to Amano, and WOW, especially for aurora. Thanks a bunch for these, guys.

I really enjoy this one. Once again Dynamedion produces an high quality orchestral score for a VG. Fans of RPG /fantasy / medieval / arabian music will quite appreciate this score.



The Settlers VI: Rise of an Empire OST

Composed By Tilman Sillescu (lead composer), Alexander R�der, Alexander Pfeffer, Pierre Langer and Markus Schmidt

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Tracklistings
1) Rise of an Empire
2) Greenlands
3) Bow to Your Lords
4) The Red Prince
5) Blazing Fires
6) Forth to Battle
7) Besieged
8) Lord Thordal's Quaff
9) A Settlers Tale
10) The Northern Mark
11) The Barrow Hills
12) Southern Realm
13) Riders of the Desert
14) Rain
15) Crimson Sabbath
16) Ready the Bows
17) March to History
18) Heritage of Kings
19) City of Wonders
20) Kingdom of Ice
21) Alliance of the West
22) Land of the Sun
23) The Drylands
24) Dark Tidings
25) Exploration
26) Sharpen the Swords
27) War Treaty
28) The Capital
29) The Emperor's Pride
30) Restful Meadows
31) Serenada
32) Faraway Tales
33) Break the Enemy
34) Hold the Lines
35) Downfall
36) Victory
37) Thordal the Knight
38) Thordal Fighting Glory
39) Thordal the Warrior
40) Thordal Crossed Swords


From http://www.gsoundtracks.com/reviews/settlers6.htm

The most prominent improvement that Sillescu and his composing team were able to achieve over The Settlers’ previous scores was the recording with live orchestra, in this case the State Orchestra of Brandenburg. Indeed, most of Dynamedion’s latest scores featured real orchestra (most notably in Anno 1701 and ParaWorld) which is a testament to their dedication to take game soundtracks to the next level. The quality of the orchestra’s performance is evident from the very first cue on the album: “Rise of an Empire” introduces the new main theme for The Settlers, a solemn, proud and majestic melodic phrase. It serves as the thematic backbone of the score and is referenced back to in many of the ambient cues, sometimes calm as in “Greenlands” or playful as in “A Settlers Tale”. This theme is not confined to one dimension however. The player’s adversary, the sneaky rogue Crimson Sabbath, is underscored with the same theme. Yet, her evil presence corrupts the majestic musical quality by destroying the theme’s pleasant harmonies (e.g. “Crimson Sabbath”). The theme’s most interesting aspect doesn’t lie in its tonal quality though, but rather in its structural variety. The ascending and descending nature of the theme’s progression splits it into two halves and allows each of these halves to be quoted separately. You’ll notice the first half of the theme played by woodwinds in “Southern Realm” and the several hints at the second part in “Bow to Your Lords”, just to name two examples. There are a couple of other motifs to discover in the score, among them a creepy and mischievous melody for the main adversary (“The Red Prince”) and an emotional Spanish flavoured tune such as in “Serenade”. The thematic richness and its thoughtful orchestration takes Rise of an Empire a step further than its predecessors.

In addition to the score’s themes, the composers utilized a varied palette of orchestral colours to express the on-screen happenings. The score adapts musically to the game’s different climate zones by creating colder or warmer soundscapes. In other words, the score shifts dynamically between a lush, orchestral and a Spanish flavoured, ethnic sound. The themes are worked into these musical palettes and connect the ambient pieces. A definite highlight concerning the traditional side of the score is the emotional chord progression in “Kingdom of Ice”. On the other hand, the ethnic musical side is expressed most prominently in the main theme quotation in “Restful Meadows”. In some missions, however, combat is inevitable: greedy bandits, battle-hungry Vikings and an obscure, dark brotherhood threaten a settler’s prosperity and well-being. Dynamedion underscored these passages with forceful and fast-paced arrangements (including an occasional nod to film composer Jerry Goldsmith). Unfortunately, most of these battle cues are shorter than one might have hoped and seldom leave room for proper orchestral development. Still, the score offers expansive musical variety while remaining coherent in its thematic structure.

All in all, The Settlers: Rise of an Empire is a powerful, sophisticated and thematically strong soundtrack which displays once again the expertise and quality of Dynamedion’s work. Empowered by the vivid yet accurate performance of the live orchestra, the score establishes a cinematic sound quality rarely seen in video games.

Very exciting post Arthierr!
I am always glad to see more music by Tilman Sillescu posted :D
Thanks so much for this post! Can't wait to listen.
(PS: Note my new avatar, i thought it portrays me as much nicer than my last one, even though I really liked the last one).

Sillescu has done some cool stuff in the past, i'll definitly check it out

Haha marked for moderation already! Hey arthierr, why don't you just upload them to massmirror? Their slow uploading speed scares you? Well, in any case would a reupload be out of the question?

Uh what? The megaupload link still works...

yeah it just worked for me

But it didn't for me!
*Tries link again and it works.
Damn, i was mistaken. Well, in any case my suggestion still stands; use massmirror. It gives your files...uh... mirrors.

I made a cover for Settlers VI. Not a very good one but better than the box art :P

Ouh !
Nice add for The Settlers... I'm so curious ! Thanks !

I really enjoy this one. Once again Dynamedion produces an high quality orchestral score for a VG. Fans of RPG /fantasy / medieval / arabian music will quite appreciate this score.

The first half is not bad at all. Much better than I expected. For some reason it gave me a Michael Giacchino meets Vaughan Williams vibe (with a hint of Kaoru Wada.)

The second half contains a crazy amount of Spanish flamenco styles and harmonies that made me think I had accidently started playing a Zorro score or something. But as much as I love flamenco, the first half definitely outshines the second half.

arthierr, I promised you (and a few others which names I dont remember) to post something I've written..

Well I've been working on some End Credits and I would like you to hear this. The piece is completed, but it's not completely mixed. It sounds good, but you can hear it's not a real orchestra playing.

http://rapidshare.com/files/315847563/End_Credits__Finale_.rar

I'm curous what you people think of it.

I originally posted this in the Film Score/VGM Hunt Thread in response to a request. It's an absolute perfect fit here.

For a quick bit of background, Goldsmith's masterful Poltergeist received a wonderful expanded edition on CD a couple of years back, but for whatever reason, the sound quality didn't really live up to that of the original LP... Then again, the LP of Poltergeist has something of a reputation for being absolutely beautiful.

Guess who has done a GORGEOUS transfer from a mint-condition copy? ;)


Jerry Goldsmith
POLTERGEIST
(orchestrations by Arthur Morton - Studio Orchestra conducted by Jerry Goldsmith)

LP Transfer



LAME 3.98.2 (-V0, average bitrate 240kbps) - http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1ZBBX7E1/JG-POLT-LP-LAMEV0.rar

LOSSLESS (Monkey's Audio) - PART 1 - http://uploadmirrors.com/download/TLLQDSKQ/JG-POLT-LP-APE.part1.rar
LOSSLESS (Monkey's Audio) - PART 2 - http://uploadmirrors.com/download/RFRYBLTX/JG-POLT-LP-APE.part2.rar

I just can't believe this thing, and I really want to thank Rhinestone for bringing this up - dusting off my Poltergeist LP and giving it a full and proper listen at last has been a truly wonderful experience... it really has to be said that doing this transfer has been a thoroughly rewarding exercise and a truly welcome break from work and family concerns that are currently messing up my life. So - again, thank you most sincerely.

To the transfer: MY GOD, this is a wonderful sounding LP. I don't think you could truly appreciate how gorgeous it is until you hear it, and even then I fear that you will be missing out a little. The Rhino CD was excellent without a doubt, and yes as a vinyl record, this isn't perfect - but there is just something about it... The mix is different, as Rhinestone observed; most notably the choir is far more prominent. But the freshness of the recording is just out of this world - it's purely ALIVE. Jerry's music shines. Those glorious screaming trumpets, heaving grunting trombones and horns, particularly. This is absolutely terrifying stuff, in the very best possible way.

And my favourite part of the entire score - that spine-tingling arpeggiating trumpet solo in Rebirth, is still more breathtaking. How this moment - so simple on paper - could convey so much; that's Jerry's genius. The trumpet line ripples in a sea of cold string chords - it's a beguiling combination of yearning and moaning... that sounds silly, but oh God, just listen to it...

The catch, of course, is that the score runs for only 38 minutes. The original album presentation was very good however; it catches the major highlights of the score and although it jumbles up the cues out of film order, it makes for a massively satisfying listen as a standalone composition.

I'm so sorry for hammering on about this in so much detail. You folk are probably just wishing I'd drop the download link and go away. But Poltergeist is one of those scores that changed my life all those years ago. It's such a powerful statement - both as a film score and as a piece of pure music; for many people, it's the highlight of Jerry's wonderful career. For an equal number, it's the finest horror score ever written. It deserves attention.

Please have fun with this, folks. And stand by for the lossless upload tomorrow sometime.

arthierr, I promised you (and a few others which names I dont remember) to post something I've written..

Well I've been working on some End Credits and I would like you to hear this. The piece is completed, but it's not completely mixed. It sounds good, but you can hear it's not a real orchestra playing.

http://rapidshare.com/files/315847563/End_Credits__Finale_.rar

I'm curous what you people think of it.


(That's not the best set of orchestral samples i've heard, but i'll put that aside.)


I rather liked it! As this is for end credits, i'm assuming you are quoting bits of other compositions from the rest of the music for the film? That's what it sounds like, anyway (especially at 2:20). I'm trying to imagine this in a thicker texture...

I won't say anything else, because to be honest you guys intimidate me a bit ;) .

Jerry Goldsmith
POLTERGEIST
(orchestrations by Arthur Morton - Studio Orchestra conducted by Jerry Goldsmith)

LP Transfer


Tangotreats my man... the LP! *dies* I used to have this and was devistated when it was destroyed in a move! The sound on this album has to be one of the best recordings, really don't care if its short and the flaws of vinyl just add to the experience of listening to this recoding! You've made my night!

And go right on gushing over the albums, I love to read it. I would write more myself, but my fingers get too tripped up as I drift off into musical bliss, enjoying one of Jerry Goldsmith's truly most impressive scores

Tango, what can I say? Rediscovering a treasured Goldsmith score is like rediscovering the joy of life. Thank you so much! I’ve listened through twice now and I’m fascinated by the differences. The reordering of the cues works very well - frequently the case with the releases Jerry oversaw (The Omen and Under Fire are two standouts for me). I read somewhere that Jerry was apparently dissatisfied with the standard of the orchestral playing in certain parts, but hearing it through the sheen of this mastering I find that hard to believe.

My own favourite track, and certainly among the very best ‘action’ pieces of Jerry’s career (and thus, of all time!) is the powerhouse that is ‘Escape From Suburbia’. The orchestra cope with this difficult music really well – it’s like the sounds of HELL itself! The unrelenting impact and sheer drive is one thing, but what about the breathtakingly inventive orchestrations, the constant subtlety and variation, the Beriloz-like grotesquery, the feeling of all the instruments chatting away and barking back and forth at one another?! Really, to my mind, he's working here on a level of excellence, inspiration and ‘naturalness’ that’s only matched by Bernard Herrmann (sorry, that didn’t make sense, but do you know what I mean?). It goes without saying that Jerry was a master of dramatic, ostinato-based structures, both simple and complex, but I think this might be his most elaborate. I also love the campy statement of the Dies Irae amidst all that terror. And then there’s the bit at 4:17 where everything grinds to a halt and a spine-tingling imitative statement occurs of a sublime variation on Carol Ann’s theme – it’s one of those moments when Jerry totally transcends the ‘needs’ of the film itself. The one thing I miss in this edit is the at the very end of this piece, as presented on the newer cd, when that shifting and straining dissonance falls to a single note and is suspended over into the warm, but otherworldly harmony of Carol Ann’s secondary theme - it’s like something from Tristan!!

Now ‘Rebirth’: some might be shocked to hear I was always a little cool on this piece. I couldn’t really get past the fact that it’s basically a re-run of the V’ger arpegiations from Star Trek (right down to those Vaughan Williamsian chromatic hesitations at the 5 minute mark), and though great on its own terms, paled next to its appearance in that score. Well, that is, UNTILL I HEARD THIS! A perfect demonstration of what the rather raw Rhino release lacked: the organic sense of cohesion between the instruments and choir, the rich atmosphere. It seems to have taken on an ecstatic, swirling force all its own. How could I have been so bind?? Making it the culmination is a genius touch too.


...And stand by for the lossless upload tomorrow sometime.
You're too good to us friend! A thousand thank yous! :)

[EDIT: I'd also like to apologise for the lack of recent contribution from myself. I've been rather preoccupied, but I'm hoping to have another Classical Action pack ready for you all in the next day or so!]

(That's not the best set of orchestral samples i've heard, but i'll put that aside.)


I rather liked it! As this is for end credits, i'm assuming you are quoting bits of other compositions from the rest of the music for the film? That's what it sounds like, anyway (especially at 2:20). I'm trying to imagine this in a thicker texture...

I won't say anything else, because to be honest you guys intimidate me a bit ;) .

Thanks for your reply!
I know the samples dont sound too good.. I finished it and I still have to mix this. With better samples.
As for the composition, this is not for a movie, but rather a project I made for myself. I had to make the End Credits to an fantasy/adventure film. And the credits have to contain a few different themes like the big memorable tune, a chase and a love theme.

Do you write music yourself? And if so, what samples do you use?

Well thanks for your reply:)

First of all, I'm quite impressed by orchestral part of Resident Evil. Stunning, powerfull work. Especially tracks with solo singer. Incredible. So again thanks for posting.


Well I've been working on some End Credits and I would like you to hear this. The piece is completed, but it's not completely mixed. It sounds good, but you can hear it's not a real orchestra playing.

http://rapidshare.com/files/31584756...s__Finale_.rar

I'm curous what you people think of it.

It's nice but not breathtaking. The beginning was too rapid for me. I almost fell from my chair;). I would make it much calmer. But theme itself was cool and overall it's not bad track. Pleasent listen. Oh, and don't take it personal, but I don't see a point, in making end credits suite without end credits;). I know, it's kind of an excersise in theme merging etc., but the name is just misleading (now I wanna listen to the rest, but there is... no rest;)). You could call it... Knightish Suite. Just joking;). But try to be creative also when it comes to title (nice title would probably get more interest;)).

Thanks for your reply!
And the credits have to contain a few different themes like the big memorable tune, a chase and a love theme.

My thoughts were a bit the same as what herbaciak said about theme merging. It might be better to write the pieces that you intend to incorporate into the end credits, then attempt to arrange those already-existing compositions.


Do you write music yourself? And if so, what samples do you use?

I've tried a couple of things, but I don't think I have much of a gift there. I do have some musical training, though.


Well thanks for your reply:)

You're welcome!

Once again you guys caused me nicely to revisit a classic goldsmith score I couldn't stand initially for the life of me. And now I am loving this beautiful score listening to my presumably CD rip. I will have to grab this vinyl rip when I get home and compare! I hope you don't mind if I spread the wealth of the lossless rip once you post it (with new links of course wherever I post it).

ALSO:

Takashi Yoshimatsu - ASTRO BOY Tetsuwan Atom Original Soundtrack Score - SICL-51
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Funny story, I bought this for $3 at my local Book-Off and on the way home listened to it in the car and didn't think much of it. Then the other day I said to myself "man I should check this out again and see if its worthy of posting in lossless". Then I listened to it and discovered the marvelous theme weaved throughout and loved it! So I have both MP3 and FLAC versions in my thread for this score! If you want full scans though you have to download my flac version.

Give it a listen and see if you guys can enjoy this one as well!

Hi all,

I have just received the majestic box Elmer Bernstein's Film Music Collection. If someone of you is interested for some of these CDs I can upload them for you.

Film Score Monthly presents one of the most important series of film score recordings of all time: Elmer Bernstein's Film Music Collection. From 1974 to 1979 legendary composer Elmer Bernstein financed his own series of classic film score LPs which he distributed through a mail order club. Though a few of the albums were reissued on LP—and one on CD—the entire series has long been out-of-print and a "Holy Grail" for film music aficionados.

This 12-disc boxed set is the definitive CD presentation of the Film Music Collection. The series features classic scores by Max Steiner, Franz Waxman, Miklos Rozsa, Bernard Herrmann (including the unused Torn Curtain score), Alfred Newman, Alex North, Dimitri Tiomkin, and Bernstein himself (including the sublime To Kill a Mockingbird).

The albums were all conducted by Bernstein in England, many with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. (For contractual reasons, one of the 14 FMC LPs—Scorpio by Jerry Fielding—is not included, as it was an original soundtrack album and not a Bernstein re-recording.)

The 13 Bernstein-conducted FMC albums are presented on 11 CDs in the box set, with the two Bernstein-composed albums (The Miracle/Toccata for Toy Trains and To Kill a Mockingbird) and two Tiomkin-composed albums (Land of the Pharaohs/Gunfight at the O.K. Corral and The High and the Mighty/Search for Paradise) combined. (Most of the FMC recordings are over 40 minutes and could not be further consolidated.)

As a special bonus, the final disc in this box set features Bernstein's never-before-released 2003 Prague re-recording of his score for Kings of the Sun—a 1963 Mayan adventure starring Yul Brynner. The album was meant to be released on Bernstein's Amber Records label, but never came out.

Unfortunately, one of the recording venues Elmer Bernstein used for the Film Music Collection—Olympic Studios in London—subsequently closed its doors and threw out the irreplacable master tapes. For this reason, five albums comprising four CDs in this FMC box set—Wuthering Heights, Viva Zapata!/Death of a Salesman, Madame Bovary, and both Dimitri Tiomkin albums—have been mastered from sealed LPs. FSM has meticulously transferred numerous copies of the vinyl to present high-quality transfers far superior to any home clean-up. (All other discs are mastered from the original 1/4" source tapes.)

The FMC box set is packaged as follows: the 12 discs come in three "butterfly" or "clamshell" cases—the kind which used to be commonplace for 2CD sets—with each case holding four discs. The three "butterfly" cases go into a larger, hard-cardboard box along with a 136-page hardcover book containing all of the original LP liner notes as well as new material: an overview by Jon Burlingame, an essay by Jay Alan Quantrill (one of the original liner note authors), reissue producer's note by Lukas Kendall, and new commentary for Kings of the Sun including a remembrance by Prague orchestra contractor James Fitzpatrick. The book is chock-full of written musical examples as well as archival photographs, many of which have never been seen.

Elmer Bernstein's Film Music Collection is one of the most significant film music album series ever undertaken, with a major film composer conducting his own performances of his and others' works. While some of these scores have since been released from their original soundtracks, several others are lost and will never be released—or exist only in monaural sound, while the entire FMC is in stereo. In the 1970s, these LPs were lights in the darkness for film music fans, and the recordings became treasured entries in film music collections. The historical albums are finally preserved on CD in this loving collection.

For contractual reasons, there are currently no plans to release these albums separately, and some of them may never be otherwise available. The box set is limited to 2,000 copies—first-come, first-served.

From the liner notes, pp. 16-17:

Reissue Producer's Note

by Lukas Kendall

The box set that you hold in your hands has long been a Holy Grail for soundtrack collectors. Elmer Bernstein was asked by many people over the years to release or license his Film Music Collection on CD and he always declined. Those of us in the "soundtrack-producing community" assumed that he intended to issue the albums himself, but it never happened. In producing this box set we encountered what were likely the issues that held up Elmer's own plans for the Collection.

The central problem was that Elmer only had masters for the first five albums: Helen of Troy/A Summer Place through Young Bess. These he had on the original 1/4" stereo tapes. The later albums were recorded at Olympic Studios and the masters discarded (along with a good deal of the history of rock music) when the studio closed its doors. (Artists were supposed to be notified to pick up their masters, but Elmer—and many others—got word too late.)

Fortunately, three of these "lost" albums were reissued by Warner Bros. Records in 1978 during a shortlived deal to broaden the FMC's distribution. Warner Special Products graciously allowed us to use their 1/4" stereo masters for The Thief of Bagdad (BSK 3183), To Kill a Mockingbird (BSK 3184) and Torn Curtain (BSK 3185).

In reviewing the contract for these three LPs, we discovered that this was not a term license—Elmer sold the albums' distribution rights in perpetuity. (Viva Zapata!/Death of a Salesman was to have been the fourth FMC title reissued by Warner Bros., but this never transpired.) Fortunately Elmer retained for himself one key right: that of distribution by mail order, which we are using for this box set. Otherwise the three FMCs handled by Warner Bros. are the domain of that company forever, and further distribution of the Collection is that much more complicated.

There are five albums for which masters no longer exist: Wuthering Heights, Viva Zapata!/Death of a Salesman, Madame Bovary, Land of the Pharaohs/Gunfight at the O.K. Corral and The High and the Mighty/Search for Paradise. The only choice has been to master the CDs from the vinyl. Fortunately, Elmer had many sealed copies of each LP still in storage, and John Davis at Precision AudioSonics has carefully broken the precious seals to make the best possible transfer of each side. Combined with the denoising in Sonic Solutions by Doug Schwartz at Mulholland Music, this is the best resolution to an imperfect situation.

This box set was originally to contain only the FMC albums from the 1970s, with the exception of Scorpio by Jerry Fielding (FMC-11), which was the only album issued from the original soundtrack and not re-recorded by Elmer. A fine score, it was included on a limited-pressing CD in 1991 by Bay Cities, Jerry Fielding 2. (The only "true" FMC title to be released on CD was The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, which Elmer licensed to Varese Sarabande in 1985 [VCD-47254].)

When it became clear that mastering from vinyl was unavoidable for five of the albums, we decided to "sweeten" this box set with a treasure from Elmer's glory days that he had re-recorded at the end of his career: Kings of the Sun, which he had intended to release on his own Amber Records label. James Fitzpatrick, the orchestral contractor for the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra, kindly volunteered his time to assemble the final disc in this box set from the edit-plan Elmer made of the sessions. While not literally an FMC recording, it is both the spiritual descendent of the series and the coda to Elmer's remarkable professional life.

All of us who love film music have been grateful to Elmer for his diverse and wonderful scores. Unlike any other film composer, Elmer went far beyond being grateful to the profession for which he was so ideally suited. He opened his heart and his pocketbook, and he dedicated himself to the livelihood and well-being of the art form. He cherished film music, as we cherish him. Thank you, Elmer.

From:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/cdID/366/

Best!

Wonderful idea Garcia, however I believe Arthierr has mentioned it would be best to avoid posting FSM releases on this thread. Perhaps you could eventually post them elsewhere on these boards? I am not familiar with any of these scores so selecting one or two would be difficult.

EDIT:
Totally off topic but this simply disgusted me completely and I had to post it.
http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/09/12/04/162213/Student-Orchestra-Performs-Music-With-iPhones?art_pos=2
Essentially they took a bunch of people with iphones and played some post-modern droning "music" that sounds WORSE than live zimmer would sound if he was using a synthesizer on stage.
Warning...this is not enjoyable in the least to me so you will probably feel some physical pain.

Ok thanks :) well it's just a project I've finished working on 6 months ago, this is what is left. It was indeed a practice for an adventure score. Ofcourse I have many more works and I have finished my first movie which is a drama/thriller. And is completely different, with many pianoparts.

I've updated the Poltergeist post with an absolutely LLOVELY lossless edition. Usually I'm not a big believer in lossless, as regardless of what people say, the real-world difference between a well-encoded -V0 MP3 and a losslessly encoded whatever... are absolutely minimal. Nevertheless, bearing in mind the archival nature of this transfer, I considered it worthwhile.

Now, it's not FLAC; it's Monkey's Audio. No complaints please. If it's not the format you want, download it and convert it. Lossless is lossless; all that matters to me in a lossless codec is the compression ratio - and APE is the best of the lot.

tangotreats, many thanks.
I just love this score. The impressionistic writing, the complex layers, and the ethereal boost to Vaughany. Thank you for posting this. I've never heard the LP. As you say, its such an intresting comparison.

Here is a real treat for you guys! New Hisaishi although with Sarah Brightman but still the rest of the tracks are great!


Saka no Ue no Kumo - AKA Cloud on the Slope - 2009
|Joe Hisaishi and Sarah Brightman|
|MP3|VBR|v-2|68MB|
|Orchestral|Melodic|Relaxing|


http://www.mediafire.com/?zezngj0znwd
http://rapidshare.com/files/316717840/Hisaishi-CloudonSlope.rar
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original soundtrack to the Japanese drama series "Saka no Ue no Komo" (A
Cloud on the Slope). Catalogue number TOCT-26910. Composed by Joe Hisaishi
with vocals by Sarah Brightman on 4 tracks.
- Track List ---------------------------------------------------------------- -
01. Stand Alone ( 4:16)
02. Wind of Ages ( 3:51)
03. Journey ( 4:19)
04. Home -Matsuyama- ( 3:06)
05. Youth ( 3:32)
06. Reverses ( 5:33)
07. Stand Alone (Vocalise) ( 4:15)
08. Last Samurai ( 3:00)
09. Human Love ( 3:12)
10. Turbulent ( 3:06)
11. Tragedy of War ( 5:50)
12. Stand Alone for Orchestra ( 5:05)
13. Stand Alone with Piano ( 3:23)

This is one magnificently lush score. Strangely they got Brightman to sing in Japanese on this one. As you might expect from hisaishi, he uses the orchestra with skill and mastery.

many thanks for Poltergeist, definitely one of my favourite.

Masaru Yokoyama - Queen's Blade Original Soundtrack
MP3 - 320kbps - 150MB
Orchestral|Regal|Relaxing|Fantasy

Thread 72137
Fresh link to come on mediafire after I can get proper composer information.

Many people in this thread seem to be well acquainted with orchestral/symphonic music...me, on the other hand have just started getting into this type of music ^.^; It really puts me in the mood to do, perhaps, my homework or that story I can never seem to finish. It's really inspirational and motivating to me; especially the fast-pace orchestral music. I've picked out a few of my personal favs from this genre--I like to call this list: My Symphonic Tunes.

Metal Gear Solid 4-Harry Gregson-Williams-Metal Gear Saga (4:20)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5id859

Metal Gear Solid 4-Nobuka Toda; Shuichi Kobori; Kazama Jinnouichi-Sin (1:46)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qk1lun

Legaia Duel Saga-Yasunori Mitsuda-Fight, Then Riot (1:25)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/dawn4c

Metal Gear Solid 4-Harry Gregson-Williams-Desperate Chase (2:58)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/uwp6g6

Metal Gear Solid 4-Harry Gregson-Williams-Gekko (2:54)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ybktvb

Getsumen Toheiki Mina-Kousuke Yamashita-Mina theme Otsuki (1:29)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/f8mks6

Xenosaga II Game Rip-Shinji Hosoe-E.S. Battle (3:35)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/t2snkj

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Battle (3:00)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ly4i1o

Metal Gear Solid 4-Nobuka Toda; Shuichi Kobori; Kazama Jinnouichi-For Liberty (1:58)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3i6vic

Metal Gear Solid 4 -Nobuka Toda; Shuichi Kobori; Kazama Jinnouichi-War Zone (1:28)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jy6x8q

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Toru Minegishi, Asuka Ota and Koji Kondo-Hylianische Steppe Theme (2:36)
Download:http://www.sendspace.com/file/h1l4fn

Xenosaga II Movie Scene-Yuki Kajiura-Final Crisis (2:15)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/inhk60

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Gnosis (4:25)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ih76eg

Xenosaga II Game Rip-Shinji Hosoe-Character Battle (3:40)
Download:http://www.sendspace.com/file/cm08ih

Xenosaga Episode 1-Yasunori Mitsuda-Prologue (4:35)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bu8eeh

Xenosaga: The Animation-Kousuke Yamashita-Kidou Suru KOS-MOS (2:02)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/dy243v

Xenosaga III Best Tracks-Yuki Kajiura-Battle of Your Soul (3:07)
Download:http://www.sendspace.com/file/512qi5

Xenosaga II Game Rip-Shinji Hosoe-Minor Boss (3:12)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/dcwi3u

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Re-Arranged-MAKO- Zelda's Theme (3:40)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xa6tan

Eternal Sonata-Motoi Sakuraba-Seize the artifact for tallness (3:17)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/d73r2n

Xenosaga III Best Tracks-Yuki Kajiura-Crisis Coming (2:50)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ynx0qj

Legaia Duel Saga-Hitoshi Sakimoto-Dream of Paradise (2:19)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7k8q7m

Xenosaga III Best Tracks-Yuki Kajiura-Godsibb~vocal (3:23)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/zizbs0

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children-Nobuo Uematsu-Advent:One-Winged Angel (6:07)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/grt6a6

Shadow of Colossus-Koh Ohtani-The Opened Way (1:58)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ua1akh

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Re-Arranged-MAKO-Great Fairy's Fountain (4:36)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a5kpob

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Followed Space Shuttle (3:41)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/koo4pu

Blue Dragon-Nobuo Uematsu-High Speed Flight (1:30)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5dey4u

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Zarathustra (3:05)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7u0me

Shadow of Colossus-Koh Ohtani-In Awe of the Power (2:12)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/suyxq9

Xenosaga III Best Tracks-Yuki Kajiura-Promised Pain~vocal (3:07)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7sjjdv

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Durandal (2:33)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ba1u9

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Invasion Inside an Enemy Ship (0:39)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mi670r

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Koji Kondo-Training (1:41)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kunlk6

Lost Odyssey-Nobuo Uematsu-A Might Enemy Appears (2:58)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/nutuf6

Shadow of Colossus-Koh Ohtani-A Despair filled Farewell (2:13)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/so7zdl

Xenosaga Episode I-Yasunori Mitsuda-Last Battle (4:36)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bxzod7

Xenosaga Episode II Game Rip-Shinji Hosoe-Final Battle (6:00)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/2g0xgm

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Koji Kondo-Horse Battle (2:44)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ouiyli

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Koji Kondo-Don't Want You No More~Bonus Track (2:12)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/s1h5mf

Xenosaga III Game Rip-Yuki Kajiura-Godsibb~Instrumental (5:21)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qp6jk3

Xenosaga III Game Rip-Yuki Kajiura-Promised Pain~no vocal (3:52)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fsbl50

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Koji Kondo-Boss Stallord (1:44)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/uz11bu

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Asuka Ota, Toru Minegishi & Koji Kondo-Dark Lord Ganondorf (3:05)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/s07n94

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess-Asuka Ota, Toru Minegishi & Koji Kondo-Ganondorf Horseback Battle (4:30)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/khci89

Xenosaga III Game Rip-Yuki Kajiura-Minor Battle (2:29)
Download:http://www.sendspace.com/file/mv6nd3

Eternal Sonata-Motoi Sakuraba-The etudes of spirit (2:56)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/8x9k3p

Eternal Sonata-Motoi Sakuraba-The Underground for underhand (2:41)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/vr8803

Eternal Sonata-Motoi Sakuraba-your truth is my false (3:08)
Download: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tj6m5d

My first love was Xenosaga so that's why there's quite a few of those songs on my list. I really enjoy coming to this thread. It introduces me to a lot of different composers and selections that I probably would never have discovered on my own. <3

EDITTED:
Here is the link to a mass-download of the before mentioned track list
http://www.sendspace.com/file/33b30w

Ziggy - Because you are a new user and can't accept PMs yet, I wanted to suggest that you upload your favorite tracks all together as a compilation or pack. I think I speak for the rest of the thread when I say that clicking on some 30+ separate links is a bit nuts. Thanks for taking the time to make up a compilation. Looks like mostly tracks I am familiar with and like!

Ziggy - Because you are a new user and can't accept PMs yet, I wanted to suggest that you upload your favorite tracks all together as a compilation or pack. I think I speak for the rest of the thread when I say that clicking on some 30+ separate links is a bit nuts. Thanks for taking the time to make up a compilation. Looks like mostly tracks I am familiar with and like!

You know what...you're right.^.^; I was just thinking about having them all on one download/compilation/pack thingy instead of having people clicking monotonously on links...
Here's a better link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/33b30w
I don't know about all this talk about Lossless, but this, I believe, is .rar

.rar isn't necessarilly lossless :)

Right, you could have any sort of file format inside of a .rar. They could be mp3, aac, flac, etc.

Most of my audio files are .mp3, but some are m4a

They would not be classified as lossless, then. Lossless formats include the following and more: .flac, .ape, .alac. If you google these, you'll find no shortage of information about them if you want to know more.

Tamiya Terashima - The Sacred Blacksmith Original Soundtrack
|MP3|320kbps|185MB|Scans|Nipponsei|
|Orchestral|Relaxing|Fantasy|

Thread 72183

This is an interesting soundtrack that has a medieval feel to it and is a solid effort.

Saka no Ue no Kumo - AKA Cloud on the Slope - 2009
|Joe Hisaishi and Sarah Brightman|

One word: beautiful.

Tamiya Terashima - The Sacred Blacksmith Original Soundtrack
|MP3|320kbps|185MB|Scans|Nipponsei|
|Orchestral|Relaxing|Fantasy|

This is an interesting soundtrack that has a medieval feel to it and is a solid effort.

Nice. I'm already falling in love with it.

Hello, i couldn't be able to log in in the last 2 days, but i don't want to forget to say thanks to:

- Tango, for Poltergeist LP.
- Sirusjr, for Hisaishi and Terashima albums.
- LordColin, for sharing a sample of your work to us.

Any other friend i didn't mention, remember that i love you all :love: *hug*

Saka no Ue no Kumo - AKA Cloud on the Slope - 2009
|Joe Hisaishi and Sarah Brightman|


I don't know why I skipped over this the first time I saw it. I think I was downloading all the dragon quest symphonic suites (which are great). Either way, thanks for this one, sirus!

[QUOTE=Sirusjr;
Takashi Yoshimatsu - ASTRO BOY Tetsuwan Atom Original Soundtrack Score - SICL-51
[/QUOTE]

Hey Sirusjr, Is there a date on when this album was made? Curious because there have been several incarnations of Astro over the decades and I am wondering if this score is for the true "original" show from the 1960's.

Thanks in advance for any help!

arthierr, I promised you (and a few others which names I dont remember) to post something I've written..

Well I've been working on some End Credits and I would like you to hear this. The piece is completed, but it's not completely mixed. It sounds good, but you can hear it's not a real orchestra playing.

http://rapidshare.com/files/315847563/End_Credits__Finale_.rar

I'm curous what you people think of it.

Very nice little adventurous track, I have to say. It needs some fine tuning though. Some instruments sometimes lack some "boldness", maybe you should increase their volume or release time, or both. Sometimes I complain about the lack of woodwinds, but for some reason it seems they're in excess in this piece (!), while brasses and strings are IMO under-used. Excellent point for frequently using the harp, which brings a lot of lightness and elegance to your piece.

Well done, Sir! And more music, please. ;)


Tango: Bravo! This is a true classic, a fascinating masterpiece which proves once again that the eighties were a true golden age of Movie Music.


Sirusjr: There are so many new scores! Where to start??? I believe I'll try The Sacred Blacksmith 1st, since it seems to have a fantasy BG, which is often something promising for the music. Again a huge thanks for your massive contributions.


ZiggyShanice: Thanks for contribution and welcome to the thread :) Downloading your selections right now (such a better idea to have made one pack. Phew...). Now, given some of the names I recognize, it seems a bit exagerated to call some tracks "symphonic", IMHO, but let's try before judging...


My next post will be another orchestral Dynamedion score, not as good as the Settlers IMO, but with quite some good epic moments. Coming soon... :)

Hey Sirusjr, Is there a date on when this album was made? Curious because there have been several incarnations of Astro over the decades and I am wondering if this score is for the true "original" show from the 1960's.

Thanks in advance for any help!
I believe this one is from 2003, according to CDJapan. Also, part of why I included the catalog number is so you can google it and find out what it is quickly.

So I went to my local book-off (used Japanese CD shop) and I noticed they actually have a huge ultraman selection in the used area but I don't know anything about the ones besides Sahashi's Ultraman Gaia. Do you guys have any suggestions for ones I should watch for the next time I go over there?

Thanks athierr,
I know it needs a lot of mixing.. but i just wanted to share this piece just to show you what style and how I compose.

Here are 2 soundtracks for you guys that you should enjoy! Freshly ripped.


Kenji Kawai - Guystars Best Original Soundtrack - 2001
|MP3|320kbps|149MB|My Rip|AWCA-3|Japanese Track Names|
|Orchestral|Electronic|Action|

Thread 72208


Shiro Sagisu - Ushio and Tora III Resurrection - 1993
|MP3|VBR V-0|118mb|TYCY-5306|My Rip|Japanese Track Names|
|Orchestral|Adventure|Action|

Thread 72207

MP3-V0
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1XGG72BK/03

Here’s a lovely piece to get you in the festive spirit. It’s from Victor Hely-Hutchinson’s ‘Carol Symphony’, and incorporates ‘The Coventry Carol’ and ‘The First Noel’. The central section was used very affectingly as the opening and closing titles to the BBCs 1984 adaptation of The Box of Delights (a wonderful series, brilliantly acted, that captures something truly timeless about Christmas and the English countryside). Though the Beeb’s budget couldn’t accommodate an orchestra for Roger Limb’s incidental score (nevertheless written in a modest orchestral style), the delicate harp tracery is carried over as a motif, associated with the magical presence of the box. This performance is the same one used in the show, with Barry Rose conducting the Pro Arte Orchestra.

The whole symphony will be posted soon :)

I expected something more cheerful and festive but it's a very nice piece anyway, it's indeed joyful in the middle part, and genuinely evoques the magical spirit of this holiday season. Very appropriate choice, Lens.

Please post the whole symphony when you can, it'll be very welcome. :)

Also, if someone else has some "thematic", festive, seasonal music he'd like to share, please do! This is quite the moment. :)

Hi gang. Here's a link from the FSM board that discusses something many here have lamented several times. Thought all of you might enjoy it.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118012324.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=bd_film

That article articulates the whole problem quite succinctly. The honest-to-goodness truth spoken by the author won't go down too well with some of the people here who seem to think that today is the Golden age of scoring, Zimmer is God, and music was boring until the great day somebody invented the drum loop and the synthesiser.

It's a sad business; that article shows quite clearly that there are people out there who can, who will, do it well... but nobody is interested. Great talents are wasting away while businessmen like Zimmer (and his crew of degenerate hacks) seem to score every other film, and at the very least exert some kind of negative influence over the others.

Terrible shame. But nice to see the problem admitted in print. Thanks for the link.

So...I went to the used CD store today to pick up "Empire of the Sun" and they had Giant Robo OST II, and having recently listened to and loved it, I picked it up. I know someone had said they were going to upload this in lossless, but did they ever? And do you guys still want it?


*edit* Just caught the link to the article. What a horrible turn the industry has taken in the last couple decades! Thanks for posting that.

FSM support.

So...I went to the used CD store today to pick up "Empire of the Sun" and they had Giant Robo OST II, and having recently listened to and loved it, I picked it up. I know someone had said they were going to upload this in lossless, but did they ever? And do you guys still want it?

Sirusjr has posted this in the lossless anime music thread here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1303616&postcount=79).

(My search continues, by the way...)

Oh great, he did post it! I won't bother then.

I just don't repost lossless links here usually because most people here don't really care (although I guess for something rare like that it would warrant a mention :P)

I just don't repost lossless links here usually because most people here don't really care (although I guess for something rare like that it would warrant a mention :P)

It's not a matter of lossless or lossy or whatever, it's a matter of good music. If you judge something is worthy and should be listened by the good people here (and GR clearly IS), then you should re-post it here, no matter what format it is. Then people can do what they want, if they're ok with lossless, they'll keep them, and if they prefer lossy, they'll convert them.

In other words, please re-post the GR scores here, even in lossless! :)

What about something that I originally posted in lossy and then later posted in lossless, like the fafner ones I recently posted in the lossless anime thread? I think that those who are interested in lossless can check the lossless anime thread if I don't include it in my original posting.

Since sirus has the giant robo:


Empire of the Sun|John Williams
MP3 VBR v0

Empire of The Sun (http://rapidshare.com/files/317802202/Empire_of_the_Sun.rar)

Since sirus has got the giant robo:


Empire of the Sun|John Williams
MP3 VBR v0
Empire of The Sun (http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=tpv01k68fz)



The link does not work.

oh, weird. I'll reupload somewhere else.

*edit* Ok, it's up now. This one works. Sorry about the first one.

Hi gang. Here's a link from the FSM board that discusses something many here have lamented several times. Thought all of you might enjoy it.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118012324.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=bd_film

Interesting article. It sums up several things I've noticed since years. There's less and less a genuine culture of symphonic music in Hollywood, carried by producers and directors who have a true appreciation and understanding of this kind of music. The great teams of directors and composers who existed in the past tend to disappear, nowadays almost only Silvestri and Williams teams up regularly with their directors, but for how long?

Movie music should be a vision, the personal interpretation of a particular talented composer about the story and the universe of the movie. This leads to unique scores, full of personality and not interchangeable with other movies. But MV / RC do exactly the opposite: they use several composers for a single movie, and moreover they compose almost exactly the same garbage movie after movie. No more personality, originality, only generic, ultra-repetitive, simplistic scores which seems to come straight from a generic music library.

Since sirus has got the giant robo:


Empire of the Sun|John Williams
MP3 VBR v0


Excellent post! Very moving score, with some nice choral parts. And bravo for the V0 quality rip.

Thank you :)



What about something that I originally posted in lossy and then later posted in lossless, like the fafner ones I recently posted in the lossless anime thread? I think that those who are interested in lossless can check the lossless anime thread if I don't include it in my original posting.

Ah yeah, I forgot that you posted it here 1st in 320k. Cool, then :)

But MV / RC do exactly the opposite: they use several composers for a single movie, and moreover they compose almost exactly the same garbage movie after movie.

They do not COMPOSE. They PRODUCE music.


There's less and less a genuine culture of symphonic music in Hollywood

I don't think that the problam is only here. Not all films need orchestral music, that's for sure. Problem is that composer have nothing to say. Who cares if HGW have great idea for his Prince of Persia score (highly doubtfull, but it's just an example) - Bruckheimer knows better what kind of music must be there.


Zimmer is God

Zimmer is at least trying to do something "original". His score to TDK is small experiment (which worked for me, but I get why people dislike it), A&D had some awesome oldschool electronica (really fun idea). Zimmer is trying to be creative in a world of copyists (the world that he created...). And, after all, it's not his fault that Hollywood likes RC crap, but I'm sure, he's happy as hell because of that.

Problem is that composer have nothing to say.

This could be what most people think, but in fact it's not necessarily true. Producers aren't musicians (although they could be in some cases). Many great composers in the past were hired to bring a real added value to the movie. Movie music was considered as having a real artistic value, it wasn't just an exciting sound in the BG, like in many wallpaper scores nowadays, it was a complete part of the movie experience and identity. Some directors asked the composers about what would be best musically, then they would agree or disagree, but at least many prestigious composers had something to say, they were asked for their opinion, their personal artistic vision about a particular movie.


Who cares if HGW have great idea for his Prince of Persia score (highly doubtfull, but it's just an example) - Bruckheimer knows better what kind of music must be there.

I don't believe so in a way. I doubt a lot that Bruckheimer is a music-lover (at least of symphonic music) and someone highly cultured in this domain. If HGW had a great, ingenious musical idea for a movie (like a fantastic motif or something), then a real music-loving producer would grant it some attention.

Zimmer doesn't write his music, a team of guys - a large, rotating team of guys - does. It's absolutely no secret. Zimmer will tell the director and producer and anyone present during the breakdown who he's assigning to which scene, based on that particular composer's strength. One guy for action, another guy for romance, etc. The Media Ventures thing is a brand name - if Zimmer had his way, all music would funnel through him. It's not about the music.

The reason JNH is sharing credit with Zimmer on Batman is because JNH wants more exposure - his Shyamalan thing isn't exactly a golden goose. Zimmer gets a lot of calls, so I guess it's a smart move, if by smart you mean short term. The long term effect of this sort of thing is... well, it's why things are the way they are.

Not that it really matters; there's plenty of blame to go around. You could roll the clock back 60 years and 95% of today's composers wouldn't know what do with the opportunity. It's not a case of being all dressed up with no ball to go to; the newest generation isn't dressed up, either.

When you have no real craft and nothing to say, and the people hiring you don't expect either in the first place, you're going to get exactly what we've got. It's not rocket science. Give it time, though; people love to "rediscover" things they intentionally forget. And there will always be a few anachronistic people who cultivate their abilities and craft with passion and discipline no matter what the climate is.



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For those of you who want the right composer information on that Ushio to Tora OST 3 I posted, it seems after going through the booklet the composer is NOT shiro sagisu but instead Kei Wakakusa. Of course I only figured this out thanks to Grandis and some kanji translations.

It's amazing how this discussion about the current state of Film scores in relation to the Variety article is almost an exact mirror of the one on the FSM board. With few exceptions, most agree that film scores of late ( and music in general ) is missing something special. A sentiment I agree with. Very little modern output really gets my attention anymore. It disappears into the background never to be really experienced.
Which probably explains why my physical purchases today are all older material going back from the mid-1990s to the earliest days of the craft.
It's actually pretty sad. True, not every score needs or deserves a symphonic treatment, but those that do should be given the utmost effort by whatever composer is hired. Don't just track temp something in, or phone it in from your bathroom...give it your all. Music fans and film lovers really will appreciate it.

And, after all, it's not his fault that Hollywood likes RC crap...
The fact is, these scores are the perfect expression of Hollywood's 'aesthetic' right now. If you enjoy the sameness, loudness, smugness, stupidity and philistinism of contemporary Hollywood, or worse, think it's the be-all-and-end-all, then it follows that you'd love Zimmer and co. When I go to see a movie now (and I really do mean almost anything from mass-Hollywood), I have exactly the same reaction to the chaotic, indifferently framed camera work, the fast editing, the ugly manipulated colours, the daytime soap worthy acting, the formulaic emotions etc. And if I see another film where every other line is "HOLY SHIIIT" I might never darken the door of a multiplex again.

The Variety article is spot on, and it's a truly sad business. However, I don't think, just because we're film music fans, we should deliberately cultivate a blind spot to everything else that's wrong with contemporary film making. I know we revel in the fragmentation that allows bad films to have good scores (and need I say that Goldsmith thrived on it), but if the problem is ever really to be addressed in anything more than a faddy way, the whole industry needs a shake-up. Film makers need to start trusting in audiences again (as much as composers).


Please post the whole symphony when you can, it'll be very welcome.
Coming up + extras! :)

EDIT: And here it is!


Victor Hely-Hutchinson
A Carol Symphony (1927)

Gavin Sutherland conducting the Prague Philharmonic Orchestra



MP3-V0 / 110MB / 17 tracks / 1:09
Part 1:http://uploadmirrors.com/download/CZSHBVGO/A
Part 2:http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0DR99VXZ/A

This is an absolute feast of Christmas-inspired orchestral music; a different recording to the one in the excerpt posted earlier. In addition to the headlining work we have the following:

Bryan Kelly - Improvisations on Christmas Carols
Peter Warlock - Bethlehem Down (arr. Lane)
Philip Lane - Wassail Dances
Patric Standford - A Christmas Carol Symphony

Kelly's 'Improvisations' are particularly stunning, and the string setting of the elegaic 'Bethlehem Down' is another favourite. You'll enjoy spotting all the traditional tunes, and the City of Prague Phil play everything remarkably well. Very lush all round. Notes by composer Philip Lane:


Of all the festivals in the Christian calendar Christmas has always attracted the most musical contributions from composers, albeit, in the main, vocal and choral. The exceptions have been seasonal seventeenth and eighteenth century concerti grossi, most notably that of Corelli, and the ‘pastoral symphonies’ in Handel’s Messiah and Bach’s Christmas Oratorio. The subsequent century, despite Charles Dickens’s virtual reinvention of the institution, bore little fruit other than the Santa Claus Symphony, by the American composer, William Henry Fry.

With the rise of public Christmas concerts, a useful source of finance for symphony orchestras throughout the world, have come ‘sleigh-rides’ and pot-pourris of all shades and varieties. The first substantial work based on Christmas carols came in the mid-1920s in the form of A Carol Symphony by Victor Hely-Hutchinson. He was born in Cape Town, in South Africa, the youngest child of the last Governor of Cape Colony, and an infant prodigy. Sent to school in England, he studied composition with Sir Donald Tovey from the age of eight. At the end of each lesson, they would improvise together at two pianos, the foundation of a remarkable technique. His later career took him to Eton, the Royal College of Music in London, Oxford, the South African Broadcasting Company, and finally the BBC, where he became Director of Music in 1944. Overwork and undernourishment due to stringent wartime rationing made him particularly vulnerable to infection (not helped by his own self-imposed rationed heating) and he died in March 1947 at the age of 45.

The symphony is cast in the traditional four movements of the classical model with the Scherzo placed second. The whole work is designed to be played without a break - in fact the only actual rests come between the first two movements. Each movement is based on a single carol, although the second and last do have subsidiary ones, and they are all true carols, that is, words and music that have grown from traditional roots, as opposed to the likes of Away in a manger and Christians awake, heard in a later work, which are, strictly speaking, Christmas hymns, the work of named composers, mostly in the nineteenth century. The present recording was attended by one of the composer’s sons, Christopher, and his wife, who gave great support and encouragement to the players and studio team.

Like Hely-Hutchinson, Bryan Kelly studied at the Royal College of Music in London, and later with Nadia Boulanger in Paris. Spells of teaching in London, Italy, and more recently, Cairo, have accompanied a prolific composing career encompassing most genres. Improvisations on Christmas Carols was first performed by the BBC Concert Orchestra in a Radio 3 broadcast soon after its composition. The first movement takes its carol through the hoops, with segments of the melody explored in canon, and treated to major/minor tonality shifts. The second is characterized by a strong counter-subject announced in the second oboe but more clearly heard later on the harp. The composer first heard Past three o’clock, one of his favourites, as a young boy in his native Oxford, at the city’s Lord Mayor’s Carol concert, an event he would later conduct himself. The sea is not far away in the fourth movement, for obvious reasons. Even though the fifth uses two carols for the first time in the piece, there is even a third towards the end as Past three o’clock is heard again, hammered out in the bass line like a peal of bells.

The output of the composer Peter Warlock, the nom de guerre of the musicologist Philip Heseltine, consists of a few modest orchestral works, including the ubiquitous Capriol Suite, and largely vocal items. Amongst these are several carols that have become firmly established in the seasonal repertoire of singers and choirs; none more so than Bethlehem Down. The idea for the piece was conceived by the writer of the words, Bruce Blunt, on a pub crawl with Warlock between The Plough at Bishop’s Sutton and The Anchor at Ropley, in the southern county of Hampshire, in late 1927. Blunt sent the words to Warlock, who set them to music in a couple of days, and thence to The Daily Telegraph newspaper which published the carol from Warlock’s manuscript in the Christmas Eve edition. The proceeds of this enterprise were consumed over the subsequent holiday. My version for strings stretches the original four verses to five and seeks to make the piece as effective for strings as the original is for choirs. No harmonic changes have been made although the voicing has naturally been varied for textural reasons. It might be hoped that the perennial version for strings of John Ireland’s The Holy Boy has at last found a companion.

Wassail Dances is amongst my earliest orchestral works and was written for the Gloucestershire Youth Orchestra and their conductor Tony Hewitt-Jones, a very gifted composer in his own right. It is based on three traditional Wassails or drinking-songs prevalent at Christmas time in the English counties of Somerset and Gloucestershire in the south-west and Yorkshire in the north. All three movements take their theme and stretch it to its rhythmic and harmonic limits, within given parameters. While the outer ones maintain the bucolic nature of the original tune, the central one, based on one of at least two from that county, is more restrained, but rather than cosily pastoral throughout, has a deliberate and decided edge to the scoring that reflects the harsher landscape of its northern origins.

It was in Yorkshire that Patric Standford was born. After completing his studies at the Guildhall School of Music with Edmund Rubbra, he worked for a time for a London publisher and as an arranger for theatres and television. He joined the staff of the Guildhall and devoted more time to larger scale compositions, several, such as the third symphony and his masque, The Prayer of St Francis, winning international prizes in Switzerland and Hungary respectively. His Christmas Carol Symphony grew out of a pot-pourri of seasonal tunes played to entertain his children in the framework of an eighteenth century symphony. It was first given on Christmas Eve 1979 by the BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by Ashley Lawrence in a Radio 3 broadcast. The composer is grateful to Sir Ernest Hall, whose interest in the work has resulted in his contributing substantially to its recording.

- Philip Lane

This up is expressly meant for the good people of this thread, who I know respect composers, record labels, and exercise good conscience over their music listening and buying habits. In the interests of 'fair play' I'll be taking it down after Christmas, so grab it while you can, and please do support Naxos - they're a heroic label, who I would hate to do a disservice to. Oh and btw, this is also the first time I've tried a split rar, and it wasn't immediately apparent to me how to do it.. so I hope everything works as it should. You will need both parts to unpack.

Thanks a lot, Lens!



For those of you who want the right composer information on that Ushio to Tora OST 3 I posted, it seems after going through the booklet the composer is NOT shiro sagisu but instead Kei Wakakusa.

Which is in fact excellent news, as I really wanted to hear more from Wakakusa since Billie has posted a ravishing album by him (Romeo no sora or something). I'll try this one in priority, then!

I would like to direct everyone's attention to a new release by Moviescore Media! This is one for the thread! Its for a new movie called Under the Mountain.

http://anonym.to/?http://www.moviescoremedia.com/underthemountain.html

Exquisitely performed by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra, the score for this dark suspense- and action-filled adventure, is a huge work where a number of strong themes and ideas - and truly top-notch orchestrations - makes for an exciting Hollywood style film score. If you are a fan of BIG scores such as David Arnold's Godzilla and John Williams' Jurassic Park, this one is for you!

From the samples alone I am very close to ordering the soundtrack but i am going to put it on my christmas list first to see if I can get it that way!

And if I see another film where every other line is "HOLY SHIIIT" I might never darken the door of a multiplex again.


Wonderful sentiment :) . I can't believe how idiotic some screenplays are these days.





Victor Hely-Hutchinson
A Carol Symphony (1927)

Gavin Sutherland conducting the Prague Philharmonic Orchestra

I'll give this a listen, thanks!

I'd like to draw your attention on this other Dynamedion score, another orchestral one, with some very nice parts. Clearly something to check out.



Paraworld - Official Soundtrack



2007
music by Dynamedion
34 tracks
01:16:45

Credits to Alpha23

MP3 VBR q0
Thread 68798

Lossless
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1303240&postcount=282

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I would like to direct everyone's attention to a new release by Moviescore Media! This is one for the thread! Its for a new movie called Under the Mountain.

http://anonym.to/?http://www.moviescoremedia.com/underthemountain.html

Exquisitely performed by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra, the score for this dark suspense- and action-filled adventure, is a huge work where a number of strong themes and ideas - and truly top-notch orchestrations - makes for an exciting Hollywood style film score. If you are a fan of BIG scores such as David Arnold's Godzilla and John Williams' Jurassic Park, this one is for you!

From the samples alone I am very close to ordering the soundtrack but i am going to put it on my christmas list first to see if I can get it that way!

Wow! Love the tone and blend, beautiful work and thanks for sharing.

Zimmer doesn't write his music, a team of guys - a large, rotating team of guys - does. It's absolutely no secret. Zimmer will tell the director and producer and anyone present during the breakdown who he's assigning to which scene, based on that particular composer's strength. One guy for action, another guy for romance, etc. The Media Ventures thing is a brand name - if Zimmer had his way, all music would funnel through him. It's not about the music.

Paradoxically, they all sound almost the same. Could you tell me why the Pirates of the Caribbean scores sound almost as "piratey" as the The Rock??? There *are* some talented guys among them, but it seems they're forced to restrain their true capacities, to produce mostly generic and unoriginal music, something that will be rather effective during the movie indeed, but as a pure musical experience will reveal itself bland and boring (at least for people used to listening to the great symphonic composers of Hollywood).

HELP! You can listen to the full AVATAR Album at this link but i don�t know enough french to be able to do it.
http://www.musicme.com:80/#/James-Horner/albums/Avatar-Music-From-The-Motion-Picture-Music-Composed-And-Conducted-By-James-Horner-0075679981233.html

Pretty simple, you just have to click on the arrow left to the title of a track to start listening to it.

New interview with James Horner. In it he is asked towards the end about the current state of the film industry and whether traditional scoring is going out of fashion. I thought I'd do my best to type up his response but the entire interview is very interesting and makes me very excited for his Avatar score!


"All of a sudden you do a film with a love theme attached and all of a sudden you are considered to be in a realm that is not really current. It is an interesting change because A lot of directors these days don't want themes or theme driven scores, and they want aciton driven scores and they want, or non thematic driven scores, they just want chordly driven scores or hints at themes, which is fine and there are a lot of films that require that and maybe thats appropriate, but for other films I think you need thematic material to connect with an audieence and I don't think it is correct for a director to believe it is old-fashioned to use a theme. When you look at what's played at the Hollywood bowls or summer festivals, there is only a tiny fraction of the film music that is written now being played at htese kinds of venues compared to the music that was written 10 years ago. The reason people don't connect with movies today, gets me into a whole discussion of the writinga nd film music that is written today. Part of it is what composers choose to write, the enabling tools that are so easy to access. With so little eductaion or knowledge people are able to create orchestral loops that sound fabulous and if you start with a director without any musical understanding, they don't understand that with a little more sophistication they could get osmething much deeper through a score.
A lot of composers all sound the same, all come from the same school, are almost set up like architechtural firms, and directors don't really know the difference, its just music, a necessary thing, but what kind, doesn't really matter. And if its thematic its considered old fashioned and so much writing could be done using themes that doesn't have to sound old-fashioned. But a lot of directors just want the music to be punchy."

Full interview:
http://anonym.to/?http://www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=4342

Pretty simple, you just have to click on the arrow left to the title of a track to start listening to it.
It only allows people to listen to the full score if you live in France anyway.

TANGO, PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN! The danger motif appears in the very 1st track!


Sirusjr: cool! Thx for bringing this interview here :)

TANGO, PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN! The danger motif appears in the very 1st track!


Sirusjr: cool! Thx for bringing this interview here :)

if you sign in you can listen to it from everywhere in the world. but help me with the sign in please.

Click on "Inscription" up right, then put your mail and a pass, check the 2nd box ONLY, and it should be ok.

Click on "Inscription" up right, then put your mail and a pass, check the 2nd box ONLY, and it should be ok.

i get this
Une erreur s'est produite, veuillez r�essayer ult�rieurement

"an error happened, please retry later"

Seriously, I listened to 20 mn, and... is it a joke? More impressions later.

Do I perceive from that, you think it's a piece of crap? :(

Why am I not surprised...

Damn you, Horner.

Oh you are bashing the Avatar score not the one I linked to :P Figures :(

Yeah, but I prefer not to give a real opinion before full listening. Maybe the last part is pure genius. Maybe...


Oh you are bashing the Avatar score not the one I linked to :P Figures :(

Oh sorry, I started to listen to Avatar spontaneously since Hater asked for it. But I'll try yours just next ;)

Yeah, but I prefer not to give a real opinion before full listening. Maybe the last part is pure genius. Maybe...



Oh sorry, I started to listen to Avatar spontaneously since Hater asked for it. But I'll try yours just next ;)

I hate the choir in the clips. And the ending song is horrible beyond words. the action should be ok, even if it also has the damn choir.

I would like to direct everyone's attention to a new release by Moviescore Media! This is one for the thread! Its for a new movie called Under the Mountain.

http://anonym.to/?http://www.moviescoremedia.com/underthemountain.html

Exquisitely performed by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra, the score for this dark suspense- and action-filled adventure, is a huge work where a number of strong themes and ideas - and truly top-notch orchestrations - makes for an exciting Hollywood style film score. If you are a fan of BIG scores such as David Arnold's Godzilla and John Williams' Jurassic Park, this one is for you!

From the samples alone I am very close to ordering the soundtrack but i am going to put it on my christmas list first to see if I can get it that way!

My god its full of themes!

I hate the choir in the clips. And the ending song is horrible beyond words. the action should be ok, even if it also has the damn choir.
Thats because the ending is by Leona Lewis. At least Celine Dion can sing decently well. Leona Lewis has a terrible voice. Even worse she has a song not only in Avatar but in the US version of FFXIII :( (Then again the original FFXIII Theme in Japanese is pretty bad as far as Jpop themes go, especially when compared to Angela Aki's song in FFXII).

Thats because the ending is by Leona Lewis. At least Celine Dion can sing decently well. Leona Lewis has a terrible voice. Even worse she has a song not only in Avatar but in the US version of FFXIII :( (Then again the original FFXIII Theme in Japanese is pretty bad as far as Jpop themes go, especially when compared to Angela Aki's song in FFXII).

Yuck! The good news is Under the Mountain rocks! Pre-Ordered it after the clips. I love the theme in the last clip. This and Red Canvas are the real highlights of this year.

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See I saw that posted various places before but never grabbed it because I doubted it would be orchestral. I'll have to check it out now!

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an orchestra was used but its not exclusively solely orchestral.

No orchestra here. It's synth, albeit with a handful of live musicians playing on a few tracks.

I find it to be a artless, loud, hyperactive, synthetic mess... but folk who enjoy such things may get a kick out of it.

(Thanks for posting, however...!) :)

Damn FLAC... where you have to download 340mb just to discover you don't like something... ;)

You should try out the Devinity 2 Ego Draconis Soundtrack postet elsewhere. Some nice orchestral music in there, especially one track is 100% Joe Dante Style Goldsmith Music. Don�t know the name of the track but you will recognize it.Sounds like Lionheart meets Explorers.

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No orchestra here. It's synth, albeit with a handful of live musicians playing on a few tracks.

I find it to be a artless, loud, hyperactive, synthetic mess... but folk who enjoy such things may get a kick out of it.

(Thanks for posting, however...!) :)

Damn FLAC... where you have to download 340mb just to discover you don't like something... ;)
Sounds like the Vexille soundtrack this guy tricked me into downloading by suggesting it had heavy use of strings. I should have known paul oakenfeld couldn't compose a score worth a damn...

there's a thing called broadband.

There's a thing called unnecessarily aggressive sarcasm.

I have broadband, like most people. I am not blessed (also like most people) with colossal download speeds or unlimited usage allowance. My thoughts on Lossless sharing (and on the general holier-than-thou attitudes of some people who blindly advocate it) are well known so I won't get into it again here.

I merely said that it was a shame such a large download was necessary (as the result of a perhaps misleading description) in order to discover that it wasn't to my taste.

There's a thing called unnecessarily aggressive sarcasm.

I have broadband, like most people. I am not blessed (also like most people) with colossal download speeds or unlimited usage allowance. My thoughts on Lossless sharing (and on the general holier-than-thou attitudes of some people who blindly advocate it) are well known so I won't get into it again here.

I merely said that it was a shame such a large download was necessary (as the result of a perhaps misleading description) in order to discover that it wasn't to my taste.
Exactly why I try to post MP3 version along with lossless or some sort of sample to show what I mean by awesome orchestral. You saved me the headache of waiting for that next rapidshare slot.

well, not the first time something was labled "orchestral" which clearly isn�t.

You should try out the Devinity 2 Ego Draconis Soundtrack postet elsewhere. Some nice orchestral music in there, especially one track is 100% Joe Dante Style Goldsmith Music. Don�t know the name of the track but you will recognize it.Sounds like Lionheart meets Explorers.
I listened to this and didn't find much that was particularly compelling. A couple tracks near the end were orchestral in style with a synth orchestra that was not very good. Most of the tracks contained serious distortion or just bland or non-existent melodies/themes.

EDIT: Paraworld is awesome! Huge thanks for the heads up Arthierr! I enjoy this much more than the recently posted settlers soundtrack.

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GRRRREAT. Now I don't even know what was this post and what is this mess about. Anyway I have to thank thejoyrider for at least contributing.

Some people may disagree with you, have different opinions, but if you consider this album worthy, then you should leave it, because maybe other people will have a different opinion and will actually appreciate your post.

I heard the first cue of Avatar and only once. Didn't like it, and i wouldn't expect some 'zimmerisms', but it's only the first track so i can't really make an opinion of the score by only one cue, and i want to see the movie first.

thanks for the Paraworld suggestion, i really enjoyed it

You know those "orchestral sting" sample libraries, where you get a pile of things like string runs, brass hits, brief fragments of melodies, full ensemble tutti chords, etc? Imagine de-tuned, electronically manipulated gravelly versions of these playing against an incessant, repetitive, drum loop, with occasional stupid noises like ringing telephones added in for no reason. ;)

(Again, I appreciate the poster's effort and I think I made that completely clear at the outset. It is, as ever, my perogative to dislike something, and to say so in detail for purposes of criticism, review, and to stimulate discussion. I wasn't expecting aggression and sarcasm, and I certainly wasn't expecting the poster to throw all his toys out of the pram and angrilly delete his upload, on the grounds of one person not liking it, and another person finding the description misleading. I thought folk in this thread were more sophisticated than that; apparently not.)

My god its full of themes!

Where?

edit: Horner seems to have been inspired by The Dark Knight or something

Re Under The Mountain: I've been looking for them myself... I purchased it from MSM and so far, it sounds like a (mainly) well orchestrated, in parts quite Goldenthalian score. I fail to see any comparison with "big" scores like Godzilla (other than perhaps a vague, fleeting quote in track 26, shortly before Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade makes an appearance) or Jurassic Park... I usually find MSM's descriptions to be on the money, but they've overhyped this one to infinity and back. This is a score made by the arrangement, sadly.

(As ever, IMHO.)

[Edit: Streich - I think Hater was talking about Under The Mountain, not Avatar, when he referred to themes... if I'm not mistaken. So far, Avatar is a crushing disappointment of Star Trek proportions. Horner's orchestration style (occasionally) filtered - as EVERY DAMN MAINSTREAM SCORE IS - through the Zimmer mentality, with frequent application of the danger motif, Star Trek II, The Rocketeer, and Titanic. An absolute travesty. Horner worked on this for over a year, and it sounds like a florid arrangement of Dark Knight. Dear God; latest casualty of the MV/RC invasion: James Horner.]

This Avatar score is like every score Horner ever wrote combined. Right now I'm hearing Cocoon and just finished hearing Mask of Zorro. And how about those epic pizzicatos? I think he went insane... with power. Synth power, that is.

edit: Yeah, I was talking about Under The Mountain too. That one theme was from ID4, I'm sure of it.

Yeah I listened to Avatar today and was sorely disappointed. The first four tracks lack any serious movement. The later tracks that have movement and melody aren't as good as I think they could be coming from horner. Plus a number of the tracks have that overly generic tribal chanting on them that reminds me of Lion King. I was hard pressed to find much in the way of memorable melodies or themes. It makes me sad that in order to get newly recorded great orchestral music I have to import it all from Europe. However the good news is I got my Merlin Series 2 soundtrack in the mail today and it is a GEM of a GEM!

[On a side note I recently became obsessed with the monstrosity that is the loudness war only to be pleasantly surprised that the majority of film scores are NOT crazy compressed. However, it seems there is nothing I can do about it as even some of my favorite heavy metal groups massively make the albums loud, but I also enjoy listening to them so what can I say :P maybe I've become infected with the bug as well.]

|also it seems Urotsukidoji was posted in higher bitrate as a fresh rip over in
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Avatar sounds like it would be perfect for The New World or Apocalypto or even World of Warcraft, but I was really hoping for Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within redux. The main theme is nice and serene (though obviously a play on My Heart Will Go On) and the the score initially plays out like some really well done meditation CD with unexpected harmonic movement, similar to Karl Jenkins's Adiemus.

There is a major lift from Four Feathers (the best part of the score to Four Feathers at that) and Glory as well, but the new orchestrations and instrumentations make these forgivable.

Lots of the underscore resorts to repetative Media Ventures-style basslines and rhythms, but luckily they are short-lived.

The epic choral parts are the highlights of the score. Though Horner doesn't reinvent the wheel here, he does keep things interesting.

The parts with orchestra during the War track don't even sound like Horner's usual orchestrations because they seem to reach almost Giacchino-level ostinato saturation.

Gotta love that diminished chord at 7:34 in the War track. Not every composer would throw something that atonal at you at a moment like that.

I can't say I'm not disappointed, but I can't say this is a bad score. It's loads better than The New World or Apocalypto, but I wanted more orchestral action! Maybe in the expanded score?

As for Avatar - I'm not gonna say about copies from other Horner works, because it is obvious as sun, so...

Main theme is very nice, choirs and solo voices are great (I just love those exotic Adiemus-like parts, great idea), atmosphere of the whole album is fantastic - I really felt extraterestial forests here:). Although danger motif was kinda overused, it wasn't annoying at all (what actually surprised me), and it worked fine.

I don't hear here MV/RC things (maybe only in War, but it's still far superior track than any RC would ever be), use of drums doesn't make MV score. And after all, Horner uses all those drums very well. And they are live drums.

And - surprisingly - I wasn't bored for even a minute of this score. Which is a big success when U take the duration of it. Great listening experience (not for my cat though, he was kinda scared by few parts;)). I even like the song. It's not great, but not bad either.

So yes, for me it's very, very good score, better than I expected, with a lot of freshy ideas (not only fresh for Horner, whole thing is just bit different than normal Hollywood score). Definitely (for me) highlight of this year, yet not for everyone.


I was really hoping for Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within redux.

FF:TSW is masterpiece imo, one of the greatest sci-fi scores ever written (with fantastic, overlooked song...). Horner had no chances to jump over this bar. But his not that far from it either (but still quite far:)).


Gotta love that diminished chord at 7:34 in the War track. Not every composer would throw something that atonal at you at a moment like that.

I noticed this too. Cool part:).

Sorry to not share your enthusiasm here. Avatar is in fact a big disappointment for me. I already told this several times: I'm a huge fan of Horner for his 80's and early 90's scores, plus some occasional pure orchestral gems like his Zorro scores. I didn't really followed him during his musical evolution though, and the problem is, this Avatar score appears like a summary, a culmination of this evolution:

- heavy use of electronics

- tons of (non-orchestral) percussions

- terrible ethnic voices

- way too atmospheric

- A LOT of recycling from his previous scores

- the danger motif used like crazy

What I expect from a guy like Horner, for a large scale SF blockbuster, is more something like FF:TSW, a terrific neo-classical symphonic score of epic proportions, not a new-age / atmospheric score, which seems to come straight from Mr Zimmer's factory.

I won't say it's a bad score though, if it was made by a new, young composer it would be pretty cool in fact, but coming from a man who composed some of the most impressive symphonic masterpieces of the last 30 years in Hollywood, it appears to be rather... weak.

OMG !

I haven't listen to Avatar but yet, reading your critics doesn't really make me want to...

I just listened to the first minute of "War" and I heared a nice trumpet action piece. Maybe an accident ^^

I'll post later my own opinion about it.

and I kinda like some Zimmer's work... i'm sorry :(

heavy use of electronics

But the electronics works great, merges perfectly with live performance, and is not overhelming.


terrible ethnic voices


Actually this is my favourite part of this score. I just adore those voices. I actually adore all the voices that we hear on Avatar (great choral work, incredible vocal on Shutting Down Grace's Lab, so emotional).


way too atmospheric

I know that for some this is bad, but for me it's awesome. I'm not a biggest fan of ambientish sound, but the toned tracks from Avatar just touched me. I can see myself in alien forest when I listen to it. This music is kind of painter for my imagination:).


the danger motif used like crazy

As I said before, it's rather overused, but it works really good. And it's not only four notes now, Horner did a bit more with this thing, they are rather important here.


A LOT of recycling from his previous scores

This is a thing that I don't care, when the material is of so high quality. Seriously. It's Horner. We knew that he's copying himself. So why here should be different? Expecting un-copying Horner is like expecting snow during summer. Not a big chances, right?;)


I won't say it's a bad score though, if it was made by a new, young composer it would be pretty cool in fact, but coming from a man who composed some of the most impressive symphonic masterpieces of the last 30 years in Hollywood, it appears to be rather... weak.

So U actually would like it, if it was written by some newbie? Intereting;). I think, that for me it's easier to like Avatar, because I prefer Horner from mid 90-00, than his bombast orchestral things (they are great, but his music from next decade is much more interesting - you know, Apollo 13, Perfect Storm - which is my favourite Horner actually, Beautiful Mind etc).


What I expect from a guy like Horner, for a large scale SF blockbuster, is more something like FF:TSW, a terrific neo-classical symphonic score of epic proportions, not a new-age / atmospheric score, which seems to come straight from Mr Zimmer's factory.

Well, I think that it had to be atmospheric, tribal, ethnic. It's al about alien jungle, so I think that Horner choose the right way to portray it. And I'm sure that this score will work fantastically in a movie. And gonna say it again: FF:TSW is masterpiece, one of the greatest in a history, and definitely in my personal top 10, but FF was also completely dfferent movie. It was much more technical while Avatar looks rather organic.

But I get your words Arthierr and I think that I will be in a minority anyway, when it comes to liking this score;). But I'm really very positively surprised by it (my expectations wasn't too high).

There has to be more to the score than what was presented on CD, and perhaps a lot of action cues were left out in favour of the ethnic/world music that would be more appealing to the masses than, let's say, Toccata and Dreamscapes.

But the electronics works great, merges perfectly with live performance, and is not overhelming.

Well, there a reason why I started the ORCHESTRAL thread ;), because I'm fan of this kind of music, and not so much of electronics. It's just a matter of taste, and I perfectly acknowledge the fact that you and other people may like this sound.


Actually this is my favourite part of this score. I just adore those voices. I actually adore all the voices that we hear on Avatar (great choral work, incredible vocal on Shutting Down Grace's Lab, so emotional).

Again a matter of taste. Ethnic voices clearly aren't my thing, I'm more pleased with the "traditional" choral parts in this score though.


I know that for someone this is bad, but for me it's awesome. I'm not a biggest fan of ambientish sound, but the toned tracks from Avatar just touched me. I can see myself in alien forest when I listen to it. This music is kind of painter for my imagination:).

There a reason why I started the orchestral ACTION thread ;) I find atmospheric stuff just boring, and they're kinda overused in this score. Why didn't Horner composed instead some pure symphonic pastoral music? He knows how to do it, he already did it, so he could have done it here. An orchestra can perfectly express mysterious / otherworldly things. Listen to Debussy's Nocturnes as a perfect example.


As I said before, it's rather overused, but it works really good. And it's not only four notes now, Horner did a bit more with this thing, they are rather important here.

There's a lot to say about this danger motif, but to be brief: 1) it's not an Horner original creation, but something he borrowed from Prokofiev, and 2) when you hear since 20 years in dozens of scores, it becomes kinda... tiresome.


This is a thing that I don't care, when the material is of so high quality. Seriously. It's Horner. We knew that he's copying himself. So why here should be different? Expecting un-copying Horner is like expecting snow during summer. Not a big chances, right?;)

Again this is a big debate in itself, but here's a short answer: many composers repeat or copy themselves MODERATELY, but with Horner it's a matter of QUANTITY, he does it too much, too many times. When you listen to this score, you can actually hear bits of many other scores he composed, many motifs, parts of melodies, or orchestrations which appeared a lot before. At this point, it's not anymore to have a personal style, it's to be too lazy to invent something really new.


So U actually would like it, if it was written by some newbie? Honestly it doesn't make sense. Either you like it or dislike it, the name of the composer should be so important.

I didn't say in any place in my post that I dislike it. I'm not shallow to the point of being attached to the name of a composer only. I said this score is COMPARATIVELY inferior to other Horner scores, and to what he could have done. But in ITSELF, it's has its good parts indeed. What I mean is that the result is way underneath the expectations, given the talent of the composer and the time and money he had for this.


Well, I think that it had to be atmospheric, tribal, ethnic. It's al about alien jungle, so I think that Horner choose the right way to portray it. And I'm sure that this score will work fantastically in a movie.

In a way yes, but the probem is that the proportion between atmospheric, tribal, ethnic music and pure orchestral music is rather imbalanced. There's not enough orchestra!

But again it's a matter of taste, and it's good to be able to express and compare our POVs.

May be all this is a problem of the cd edition, per example Star Trek by Giacchino is a lot better in the movie than in the simple cd edition. I think that in this Avatar there is a lot of cut and paste.

Besides, per example the cd doesn't contain the theme Into The Na'Vi World, the one that you could listen in the official Avatar web. What is the reason for this?

I pretty sure that the score in the movie is going to be a lot better. However I have to tell that I like it and I consider it an excellent work by Horner. My opinion is really close to that of streichorchester and herbaciak.

One question, I am not a musician and I am lost. You speak a lot about the danger motif, what is this? These famous pa-ra-ba-ra notes typical in all his scores?

Best!

My honest impression of this score is that it’s a disaster. I totally respect all the positives that have been expressed and I’ve no doubt we’ll all like it that bit more when the jaw-slackening giddiness of megabucks 3d smacks us in the face.. But (as presented thus far) I can’t enjoy the music. It’s swamped with all the tricks, ticks and ‘timbres’ that make me glaze over in deepest depression. At times it’s so uninspired it almost sounds like it’s going to fall apart. Actual articulation and expression are minimised as far as they could be for a composer of Horner’s talent (with this much time); everything is thrown into the mix, and it all becomes a sort of formless, passionless mess. Is this the result of the overbearing tastes of studio execs? Probably.

Perhaps there was a good score in there at some point, but it’s been ultimately eroded away to a functional, crowd-placating husk. [What goes against that supposition, however, is the fact that it’s so weak thematically]

The danger motif was a non-event to begin with (waaaay back), so why the heck does Horner continue to use it as a proud signature? That motif notwithstanding, the strongest aspect for me is the brass writing, and there are just enough passages of genuine interest to make it worth a few listens. On the other end, the choral shouts do nothing for me and, again, sound so perfunctory, by the numbers.

What others are hearing as EPIC, I’m hearing as loud emotionless formula :(


One question, I am not a musician and I am lost. You speak a lot about the danger motif, what is this? These famous pa-ra-ba-ra notes typical in all his scores?

Yep, that's the one.

After giving this thing a fair chance and a proper listen, I have to agree with Lens Of Truth.

Furthermore, I think that the praise Avatar is receiving is *very* indicative of the deep film-scoring rot that's now in the advanced stages: Folk are SO sick of out-and-out CRAP, that they'll hungrilly gobble down absolutely anything that has even the vaguest merit.

Yes, Avatar could've been much worse - in the same sense that getting your leg chewed off by a rottweiler is much worse than being stung in the eye by a hornet. But c'mon folks - we're talking about the composer who gave us Krull, Star Trek II and III, The Mask Of Zorro, and Aliens, amongst dozens more.

What in the world is Avatar by comparison? Yes, Horner copies, and yes, he steals - everybody expects this by now, but even his staunchest critic must recognise the massive talent he possesses. So, where is it in Avatar?

The hastily written replacement score for Troy has more going for it than Avatar does - and it was written in two weeks versus Avatar's alleged seventy weeks.

Avatar has a few moments, but by and large, it's a massively cliched, directionless disaster - held together by some poorly executed Hornerisms from the early eighties. Surrounded by turds, a turd with a pink bow is beautiful. That's what Avatar is in the world of contemporary Hollywood film scores, to me anyway. It crushes me to have to say that; you have no idea how much I wanted to love Avatar. I wanted it to be Horner's universal "I'M BACK!" and I wanted it to be the score that heralded the beginning of the end of this nasty era we're currently in the midst of.

Compared to most others, it's a creditable effort - but compared to Horner's ouevre, it doesn't even exist, and compared to what it could so easily have been, well, you can score Avatar in your head and find out.

One thing's almost for certain; Horner's hand was forced here. Maybe by Cameron, maybe by the studio, or maybe simply by Horner thinking to himself "Movies don't get scored the way I do them any more... Hollywood isn't ready for a full-throated, melodic, symphonic score just yet. If I write one, the studio will toss it and hire Steve Jablonsky. I'll compromise and score within the expected parameters, and at the same time I'll offer hints of what could've been."

Let's not forget, Horner is NOT an a-lister any more, and the ONLY reason he got Avatar is because of his relationship with Cameron. He's just not on the radar any more as far as major Blockbusters are concerned. He has to play by the rules or he knows his score will be thrown out quicker than you can say Troy.

Great shame, but inevitable.

Perhaps if Avatar does well, and the soundtrack album does well, it will re-establish Horner on the A-list and in time, he'll be able to get back to writing his own music... rather than this dreck.

Well said tango and lens. I have to agree. Especially when I compare it to other big scores I really liked that came out this year, as I said before, Twilight New Moon has a better score than avatar. New Moon is of course not an action score but it has a lot more heart. Hell I sell the Dead was a score for a freaking cheesy as hell zombie movie and has a wonderful melody and some great movement. Mutant Chronicles was for a terribly cheesy (yes I actually watched mutant chronicles and I sell the Dead) post-apocalyptic mutant slaying action flick and got a wonderful score with some great action and orchestrations. Then we have Merlin Series 2 for a fun but not too substantial BBC fantasy series that absolutely shines thanks to the contributions of the second composer, Rohan Stevenson who seems to have a little bit of classical training and background as well as great work by Rob Lane. Finally we have Red Canvas a score that looks to be for some lame boxing flick but is beautiful and moving. All from relatively unknown composers (except for Desplat) and yet they far outshine the latest score by James Horner. This is just not something I would expect to see but sadly is the way of things.

(I bring up recent scores because we all know that we aren't in the 80s anymore and so this is giving Avatar a much lower bar of competition that it sill fails to overcome).

I'm curious if you guys are reviewing Avatar based on the short samples, or if you have the actual soundtrack?

_Mike

The full score was legally streamed a few days ago. We're basing these views on the full album.

Are you having fun in Tokyo? :)

Tokyo has been an absolute blast, actually. Today is the official opening of the movie, and I'm off to an "event screening" with cast and crew at one of the theaters in a bit here. But I was just curious about the opinions on Avatar, because Amazon et. al. put up 30 second samples of my score for Ultraman, and I notice they poorly represent the contents of the full tracks themselves, most likely because the cues are long-form in structure, so they take a bit to "get going." There is usually little in the first 30 seconds which can accurately sum up the ideas within, and of course there is no effort on the vendor's part to choose the "best" 30 seconds to preview a track with. Anyway, in checking out the Avatar samples, I noticed they seem to suffer similar fate, so I was curious.

_Mike

With all of this Horner talk i decided to pop Glory and The Land Before Time in the cd player
the man's level of talent is unreal sometimes
i miss these old horner scores

With all of this Horner talk i decided to pop Glory and The Land Before Time in the cd player
the man's level of talent is unreal sometimes
i miss these old horner scores
I like this idea. Going to spend the rest of the day listening to various horner scores I either never listened to or never listened to properly.

Soundclips from Mike Vertas Ultraman Score:
http://www.towerrecords.co.jp/sitemap/CSfCardMain.jsp?GOODS_NO=1993824&GOODS_SORT_CD=101
Hehe even judging by the clips and the fact that its is only synth i would say it destroys the AVATAR score completly.With a live orchestra that would be Sky Captain Territory, or even the original Star Wars Scores. Start a Petition to allow Mike this score to be re-recorded with a real orchestra. NOW!!!!
you know what. hell i�m going to buy it just to support real music even if i�m not the biggest fan of artificial music. if there is a way to pre-order it without learning japanese please drop me a pm.

I concur! And those are some terrible quality samples too! Any word on a way for customers outside of Japan getting it for a decent price. I know thats not very likely but a man's gotta hope.

I've been asking for iTunes release and other options - working on it...


_Mike

Terrible sample quality or not, that's some great sounding music, Mr Verta! I'm not usually a fan of synthesized music (save for rare occasions...B5 music...) but what little can be listened to in the samples is brilliant :). I hope securing a release for us state sider's is successful, I would love to get the CD and listen to the full score.

I should mention that if I have an option between importing from Japan and supporting itunes, I would make an exception to my general rule (although amazon would be preferred).

You know those "orchestral sting" sample libraries, where you get a pile of things like string runs, brass hits, brief fragments of melodies, full ensemble tutti chords, etc? Imagine de-tuned, electronically manipulated gravelly versions of these playing against an incessant, repetitive, drum loop, with occasional stupid noises like ringing telephones added in for no reason. ;)

So what was this thing? A game soundtrack? I don't see why you didn't like it if it was lossless, because that's all that really matters anyway, right? ;) Regardless, I have something that will make you happy. Ahem.


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EXPERTS OF JUSTICE, RISE FROM YOUR GRAVES!

Coming Soon: GR Symphonic Complete (10 discs)

For those not familiar with Giant Robo or Masamichi Amano, here's a sample track ("Train Chase" from Giant Robo I Kanzenban). (http://www.mediafire.com/?ntmmginl2qz)

Whoaa! 10 discs? And good bitrate mp3!!? (or lossless) Can't wait!

Soundclips from Mike Vertas Ultraman Score:


Hey, those are great! I'd buy it! I would love to hear the full-length tracks, but these were entertaining also. Thanks for posting that, and thanks for your compositions Mr. Verta.





Coming Soon: GR Symphonic Complete (10 discs)

For those not familiar with Giant Robo or Masamichi Amano, here's a sample track ("Train Chase" from Giant Robo I Kanzenban). (http://www.mediafire.com/?ntmmginl2qz)

Awesome! I've only heard some of this, but I loved what I heard.

One question, I am not a musician and I am lost. You speak a lot about the danger motif, what is this? These famous pa-ra-ba-ra notes typical in all his scores?

Best!

Indeed, it's this four-note motif which appear anytime there's a threat or danger (hence his name). It's so regretable that Horner uses it so many times, he's perfectly capable of composing other motifs or melodies for express this kind of situation, it's not big deal for someone of his talent.





Coming Soon: GR Symphonic Complete (10 discs)

You may want to start with AMANO's Super Atragon: some pure orchestral splendour.

Fantastic score, my friend !!!

It's really very, very, very fantastic !!! I did not know this anime.

I'll look for him to watch ...

Obrigado !!!

Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures Expanded Soundtrack

(http://img46.imageshack.us/i/foldercn.jpg/)


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OJ7ZYS19

This was a hell of hard work. Extracting the files from the game files was easy, since someone had made an extraction tool for that very purpose. But no one made a tool to automatically title and number the 230+ .OGG files. That was the hard part.

Only 115 of those files made the process. I highly doubt anyone would of had wanted to listen to 0:03 files, which most of the time were just a bunch of victory songs played when your character killed something. But even then, there was still 180 files, all of which were longer than a minute in length.

From here on I created a bunch of folders - Main Menu, folders for songs that were based off of the official soundtrack songs, etc. etc. I then spent a good couple of days organizing them best I could. From here, I went and deleted the files that were pretty much just shortened versions of the soundtrack songs. I kept "alternate" versions, such as "The Dreaming - 'Ere the World Crumbles" (Battle Variation).

Once that was done, I gave them titles and numbers, and organized them promptly.

Of course I had my setbacks. I reorganized the listing a few times, altered the placement of a few songs, etc. etc. It was a week of hard work, and I am just glad it is all over now!

Enjoy you guys. I sure am! *toast*

Final Fantasy
The Crystal Bearers
(Selections)



MP3-VBR / 34MB
http://www.multiupload.com/DZGYOGRGJF

This soundtrack was a surprise for me. I assumed it would be a bit of a mish mash and short on personality. I was wrong.

Here's a sampler pack for the cautious and bandwidth restricted containing all the real orchestral material (that would be about 3 tracks!), plus a few of the better synth orchestra ones. Some seem to mix the two, and the brass in particular have a rather odd sound. The standard of composition is very good however, and it's lively, fun stuff. I've also thrown in a few non-orchestral items to give you a flavour of the variety on offer (though they've been carefully selected so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of the thread ;) There's also rock, jazz, bluegrass etc). I had to include 'Queen's Garden' as it's so obviously a riff on the Banquet theme from Hook!


Thanks to Soitre for posting. Full album here:
Thread 72378

You beat me to doing the same thing Lens! Great idea. I had already removed the lame tracks but mine would probably have been a bit larger so this is better. Sadly, only about half of the soundtrack is very good. There are a number of lame jazzy/country style tracks that I had to delete instantly and a few cheese rock tracks for final battle (total shame considering the quality of orchestral stuff they could have used instead). Still its nice to hear a few remixes of tracks from the original Crystal Chronicles soundtrack including my favorite track, Veo Lu Sluice.

I'll have to post the original soundtrack here as it is a great mix of ethnic instruments and catchy melodies and stands in a field of its own compared to the soundtracks for Crystal Bearers and the DS counterparts.

Sirusjr has kindly uploaded Tuomas Kantelinen's brilliant Quest for a Heart.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1387451&postcount=18905

Thanks Sirusjr

I believe I uploaded all of my kantelinen in this thread previously but I'll have to re-post my rare orchestral ones excluding mongol.

Final Fantasy
The Crystal Bearers
(Selections)

MP3-VBR / 34MB
http://www.multiupload.com/DZGYOGRGJF



Short but good! Many kudos to you, Sir, for discovering it and posting the best parts here, otherwise I probably would have missed it. My favorite is the waltz, really gorgeous, and the Majestic Theme is pretty good piece too.

Here's a suggestion to save your time: if you discover an ost with only some orchestral parts, you can also post a link to the thread where it is, and just mention which tracks are really worthy in your opinion. This way people can grab it and start with the tracks you suggested, then if they're pleased they can listeb to the rest later. Just an idea ;)


I also wanted to discuss something. Some time ago, someone posted me a PM, and among other things, he indirectly suggested that it's not very ethical in forums to re-post links to stuff found in other places, which I frequently did.

So, here's my position about it:

Forums are places where we exchange informations, not places where we host actual stuff. Nothing is hosted in the Shrine, it's just a place where we exchange links to scores hosted in specialized hosts: RS, MU..., whether we uploaded them ourselves or not.

Given this fact I see no problem re-posting something someone has uploaded himself and posted in another board, IF:

1) I give him credits, or if don't know his name, I mention: credits to the original uploader

2) I use some kind of link protection technique

If these conditions are respected, it's not unethical, IMO, to re-post other people's uploads.

If someone disagrees, please express yourself.

I see this starting an argument, but arguing ethics is a moot point on music-sharing boards like this one, unless you're arguing about the initial copyright infringement of posting the files online in the first place. Uploaders of music have no rights in regard to how their illegally-posted files are redistributed and/or stolen. I appreciate uploads, but I don't understand why people get angry when others distribute their links unless they are paying for download traffic. That is the only reason I can see. So in other words, I have the same end opinion as arthierr but for different reasons.

Good points arthierr. I think its best usually to re-upload the flies yourself personally because you never know how long the original links will live. Plus often times I download and re-tag as well as listen to the music before uploading. But your method is sufficient to support original uploader and it may be that if they used something like rapidshare they actually want MORE hits to the link rather than having someone re-upload to a different host.

I also agree its pointless to worry about distribution of links. If its that important to you then you should put something in the tags when you rip it to show it came from you. Of course these can be removed by someone but many people don't pay attention to tags so it might go un-noticed.

unless you're arguing about the initial copyright infringement of posting the files online in the first place.

Nope. This is another debate, much more important in fact. I talk about the fact some people re-post other people's uploads / rips.



Good points arthierr. I think its best usually to re-upload the flies yourself personally because you never know how long the original links will live.

I'd love to, but my time is too limited for this, plus for some reason, my uploads often get corrupted and I need to reup 2 or 3 times before they're really clean. Moreover I don't see the point of reuploading something which has been already uploaded. If it exists and is freely accessible, then it's actually a good thing that more people are allowed to access and enjoy it, as long as, again, the original ripper / uploader gets his well-deserved credits.

Nope. This is another debate, much more important in fact. I talk about the fact some people re-post other people's uploads / rips.


Right, I was just referring to the other thing. I go on to comment on your issue after that.


Also, thanks for crystal bearers, Lens!

I agree for the most part; with a handful of exceptions, I think most of the ridiculous ghetto culture that surrounds a lot of file-sharing is ridiculous... particularly when uploaders seem to consider themselves ahead of the artists in terms of importance. On these occasions, hearing arguments about "stolen links" and that "theft is illegal and immoral and disrespectful to me!" make my blood boil because they completely disregard that the fact that the original poster, by his initial act, has committed theft, broken the law, and in many cases disrespected the artist - without whom there would of course be no music to share.

I will say this, however: in this thread and on some other forums, where music that is hard to obtain / out of print / rare / obscure, etc, is shared... the original uploader is far more than somebody who hit "Rip" in iTunes. Personally I am annoyed if I've spent a great deal of time or money obtaining a CD, transferring an LP or cassette, or discovered a gem and spread it around, if I find these efforts being completely ignored and my links being whored across the internet. Words are free, and in the end, it doesn't take five seconds to say "Many thanks to the original uploader" or even "Uploaded by tangotreats at the FFShrine" and in that case, honour is satisfied.

It is indicative of the "take take take" attitude of most downloaders; some folk go to a lot of trouble, and sometimes personal expense, to share. They don't gain from it (nor should they) except by spreading some happiness. A couple of words of acknowledgement and gratitude is the least they deserve.

USING OTHER PEOPLE'S LINKS: In summary, then, I don't see a problem - provided that a some attempt is made by the poster to suggest to the forum that somebody else made the initial effort, and that they are simply passing on links.

Obviously there are some exceptions to this; it depends on where you found your links! If, for instance, I found something in a close-knit private community, then I wouldn't pass on their links - I'd reupload whatever it was myself and spread those instead.

When all is said and done, yes we are breaking the law, but that's no excuse for poor ettiquete or lack of courtesy - particularly when it is so simple and so fast to undertake them.

FINAL FANTASY: THE CRYSTAL BEARERS

Thanks Lens! This wasn't even on my radar. What a great selection as well; as usual, more orchestra would've been nice, but what's there is good, so I shan't complain. Also... has anybody noticed the orchestra size? It's tiny - 39 piece! And it sounds quite splendid. Yet another Japanese score which manages to out-epic 99.9999% of mainstream Hollywood music with a quarter of the musicians and probably a fiftieth of the budget. This sounds particularly well recorded; I wonder if it's a new studio, or whether they've done up Sound Inn? 99% of Japanese scores have probably 50 players and they don't sound nearly as big as this.

[Edit: Interesting synth sweetening going on there... Some tracks use EastWest Symphonic Orchestra to thicken up the brass a little. Bizzarely enough it works quite well.]

Giant Robo I Kanzenban [flac + cue] (213 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=QF7JWSW2)

[-V 0 mp3] (70 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?immnyzmzhnj)


Giant Robo I [ape + cue] (222 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2AA1WGX)

[-V 0 mp3] (74 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?dyzzvj0hzmg)


Giant Robo II [flac + cue] (203 MB)
THANK YOU, Sirusjr!

(http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1303616)

[-V 0 mp3] (71 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?jxg42u2zytz)


Giant Robo III [ape + cue] (232 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBMMR3CJ)

[-V 0 mp3] (80 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?ijylzqzjly0)


Giant Robo IV [flac + cue] (215 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=WDH2EAXM)

[-V 0 mp3] (68 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?3i1zmbzwt2y)


Giant Robo V [flac + cue] (248 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=J4GG08FM)

[-V 0 mp3] (80 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?lmtnmm0emji)


Giant Robo VI [flac + cue] (213 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=NOOYHK99)

[-V 0 mp3] (73 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?mfnxdtmmmjw)


Giant Robo VII [flac + cue] (296 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=L9NMJ8T3)

[-V 0 mp3] (89 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?kmmgmm1jwqm)


Giant Robo Gaiden: LOVE FIGHT ~ GinRei Music Collection ~
[flac + cue] (299 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=70JNA04C)

[-V 0 mp3] (97 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?znk1zmcjjtm)


Giant Robo Gaiden: Aoi Hitomi no GinRei Original Soundtrack
[flac + cue] (217 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=5NU6XZFC)

[-V 0 mp3] (74 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?zhdmmyzoci2)

I simply do not know what to say...

T H A N K Y O U S O M U C H !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That ought to do it...

YOU'RE WELCOME! :D

Wow, thanks grandis! Looks like you were very thorough in your uploading, with flac AND mp3 versions--Way better than we had before, and even a couple i've never seen on the forum! Unless you have a ridiculously fast connection, this must have taken most of your night! I'm excited for these--I'll have to download all of these when I get home tonight!





About original uploading: I also agree that saying thank you is essential. I'm actually a bit put-off when I see that 30-40 people download something I post and no one says thank you, but I get over it.

Link sharing: It looks like some of us don't really care about this much either way. I'm glad, because I don't really mind either. I just get annoyed when people get so inflamed about stealing links. What do I lose if someone steals my links? Nothing. I was distributing it for free in the first place.

USING OTHER PEOPLE'S LINKS: In summary, then, I don't see a problem - provided that a some attempt is made by the poster to suggest to the forum that somebody else made the initial effort, and that they are simply passing on links.

Cool, then. :)


Obviously there are some exceptions to this; it depends on where you found your links! If, for instance, I found something in a close-knit private community, then I wouldn't pass on their links - I'd reupload whatever it was myself and spread those instead.

This should be avoided indeed, only public forums links should be re-posted whitout reup.

Personally I've seen a lot of my uploads (not only music) re-posted elsewhere whithout being given proper credits, but hey, it doesn't matter, I'm happy that more people have access to my posts, and moreover it increases my RS account hits.


Grandis: AWESOME! This is an immensely valuable post, and moreover downright in the purpose of this thread: incredibly rare + incredibly good. Your post will make a lot of people happy... if they find it.

Why putting it into spoiler?! As I said before, this thread has nearly 4000 posts, visitors generally browse it very fast, catching only what clearly draw their attention. Given the enormous importance of what you posted, please give it the visibility it deserves and remove this useless (and contra productive) spoiler protection.

Make it shine! ;)

O__O....OMG....*dies*

Grandis...THANKS!!!

Hey folks,
Hopefully you'll forgive the off-topicness of this post...
I'm typing this from my MOTHER'S computer as mine just did a rather unpleasent thing yesterday... All the HDD cooling fans decided to pack up (an indeterminable period of time ago) and so have been steadily cooking away with me merrily going along assuming everything is fine.

Unfortunately yesterday they got too hot for comfort and the C: drive, closest to the fan, went bye-bye. And the I: drive (data) and also the J: drive (backup and more data) -- so I now have no PC and have lost about 3TB of data. That's pretty much everything I've ever had or worked on since 2001.

The really wonderful part is that I was planning to by myself a Christmas present of a new PC and a new set of data drives - using the old ones as a full 1:1 backup of everything and finally getting a decent backup stragegy in place after so many years of not really doing it.

So, if these damn things could've hung on for another two, three weeks, all would have been well... But, alas, they didn't - and now I'm fucked.

Finally, since both data drive and backup were in the same PC, and both got fried, I have lost every note of music I've ever written and so am cancelling my recording project. (I had arranged to record an album with a 45 piece orchestra in Summer of 2010 - but now I have no music to record, so unless we do John Cage's 4:33 50 times in a row, there's not a lot for the orchestra to do... And it's rather a waste of money.)

So, all in all, today has been a bit of a bugger.

Oh yeah - and the christmas lights I spent the last three days putting up have all blown up, and my nosey grandfather has spoiled *ALL* the surprise christmas gifts this year.

And my heater's packed up so I'm freezing to death.

Yes, a bugger indeed.

Goodnight folks - I probably won't be around much for some time, so in case I don't see you - take care and have a very happy Christmas......... AND BACK UP YOUR GOD DAMNED DATA. NOW, NOT TOMORROW. TOMORROW COULD BE TOO LATE!!!!!!!

Edit: Final thought. Screw Antec, and double screw Seagate.

wow, that is a terrible shame tango :(

Many thanks grandis! Do these fresh uploads of GR 1 and 3 contain scans? If so, could you upload them separately? I already grabbed your GR 1 and 3 earlier and would like higher resolution covers. Regardless the remaining lossless are much appreciated! I could not find decent covers (over 100x100) of any of the other osts!
EDIT: For those of you who don't know much about lossless, if you want to load the cue files to play these on your computer you will have to open each cue and change the link to cdimage.flac from the original cdimage.wav

Also Tango - That is horrible news. My sincerest condolences!

Also YES BACKUP DATA! I've started backing up various rare lossless things or things I really care about on DVDs because 4gb of data can go a long way depending on what you use it for. In the next month or two I'm gonna buy a 1TB drive to back up things but my computer has a seriously awesome fan system because it is made as a gaming case (even though I don't game on it).

Ouch. Sorry, Tango. Maybe there is some kind of data recovery service you could try. I don't know how damaged your drives are, but I would suggest looking around to see if there is a company around that could salvage some of your compositions, at least. I've never had to do any of that, but I hope there is something out there for you. Wow, that is a terrible shame, especially for your music you've written. Good luck.

(edit--looking for a bit, I saw this company:
http://www.certifieddatarecovery.com/W2Dfire.htm
If this one doesn't work for you, I'm hoping there is something else. I also hope it's not ridiculously expensive.)

Also, thanks again Grandis.

FSM support.

Yes, I would definitely not consider all hope lost. The data is on those drives, and there is likely an excellent chance of recovery!


_Mike

Oh no tango, that is terrible news.
I really hope that you could recover all your data or at least your own work and most important files, and even if that is not possible, don't let this misfortune discourage you to continue doing music.

It's really frightening how in our societies today we are so dependent of these machines. :erm:

Unless you have a ridiculously fast connection, this must have taken most of your night!

I don't know about ridiculously fast, but it didn't take that long -- about 3 hours. Enjoy!


Why putting it into spoiler?!

Well, it was kind of a long post and I didn't want to interrupt the flow of conversation here...


Do these fresh uploads of GR 1 and 3 contain scans?

Sorry, these are the same links from before (that's why they're ape files), so no scans.

tangotreats, your computer situation sucks, but may not be as bad as you think. As others have said, the data is still there, it's just a matter of getting to it. Yes, there are data recovery services you could use, but... are you sure the drives are fried? I mean, what happens when you turn the computer on? Nothing, just a dark screen? Does the BIOS post? I had an HP laptop and out of the blue I turned it on one day and nothing happened. It was bricked, useless! But the hard disk was fine -- it was the motherboard that was fried. So I pulled out the HD, put it in a drive enclosure, copied my old files to my netbook and TADA, crisis averted.

I work in IT and have dabbled in computer forensics, so let me know if you would like some advice via PM. I think you should be very careful (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/82945/how_to_spot_a_bad_data_recovery_company.html?cat=1 5) and only go to a data recovery service as a last resort as many of these people have almost as bad a reputation for swindling as shady auto mechanics!

Grandis let me know if you need help when these links die considering I was able to grab all of them yesterday. The covers you included are sufficient for my needs anyway and much better than I could find on my own.

Tango - I feel sick at the thought! We've all our fingers crossed for the recovery of your work.

Let us know how it goes and, echoing Sanico, don't let anything discourage you!

Sending good vibes :)

i can confirm that it is possible to make a much better avatar score experience with the complete score from the movie. it is about 50mins more than on the cd and 30mins of the KICK ASS. Thanator Chase is mindblowing, possible the wildest Horner Action ever. And WAR is only about the first half of the Battle. WAR Part 2 is as long as the first and Not ZIMMERISH AT ALL. You get MASSIVE new arrengments from The Rocketeer (Deus EX Machina-Sequenz) and Aliens (The Real Showdown) and that was awesome.

i can confirm that it is possible to make a much better avatar score experience with the complete score from the movie. it is about 50mins more than on the cd and 30mins of the KICK ASS. Thanator Chase is mindblowing, possible the wildest Horner Action ever. And WAR is only about the first half of the Battle. WAR Part 2 is as long as the first and Not ZIMMERISH AT ALL. You get MASSIVE new arrengments from The Rocketeer (Deus EX Machina-Sequenz) and Aliens (The Real Showdown) and that was awesome.

Holy hot damn Batman.

I have no idea how to do a proper expanded soundtrack for movies, so don't ask me to do this again!

Tango: as I PMed you the previous time a similar thing happened, you could try to unplug your HDDs and connect them to an external case, then connect it by USB to another computer in order to backup what can be saved. Good luck and come back soon. ;)



IWell, it was kind of a long post and I didn't want to interrupt the flow of conversation here...

Please do, Sir! When someone brings you gold, you don't tell him to go away because you're occupied discussing. ;) Moreover you're welcome here whatever the reason.



Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures Expanded Soundtrack

This took quite some time between the announcement and the actual releasing, but now it's there at last, so thank you!

i can confirm that it is possible to make a much better avatar score experience with the complete score from the movie. it is about 50mins more than on the cd and 30mins of the KICK ASS. Thanator Chase is mindblowing, possible the wildest Horner Action ever. And WAR is only about the first half of the Battle. WAR Part 2 is as long as the first and Not ZIMMERISH AT ALL. You get MASSIVE new arrengments from The Rocketeer (Deus EX Machina-Sequenz) and Aliens (The Real Showdown) and that was awesome.
Sigh so it seems that the studio cut off all the REAL music from the CD and gave us the mainstream easy to sell to audiences stuff. Of course they want to be able to release a FULL score down the line after we have all forgotten about it. DAMN studios giving us the short end of the stick.

I listened to three or four of the Giant Robo Soundtracks today, and they are just great.
That being said:

I thought some of you might find this bit of borrowing interesting. I hadn't ever heard the Giant Robo IV Original Soundtrack, but having listened to it now, "G-R no Fukkatsu" is totally taken from William Walton's "Crown Imperial" coronation march(here it is on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro6fx02Xemw).) However, this is far from the best track on the album, so I didn't really mind the borrowing.

Listen to Crown Imperial first (the slower section that starts at about 2:00, listen to that for about 30 seconds or so.) then listen to G-R no Fukkatsu. It should sound VERY famliar, definitely at :35, where the second phrase of the melody of the slow section from crown imperial is almost completely intact (with the exception of the register change and a couple note/rhythm differences.)

Haha, you're right, dude. Actually Giant Robo is BLOODY FULL of plagiarisms! Look at this thread:

Thread 49552

The only things that were listed that I am familiar enough with to recognize would be Sneakers, possibly Willow, and Shostakovich 5, and I can see some stylistic similarities, but I haven't seen anything blatant yet. If I'd heard the other things listed by streich in that thread you linked, I might recognize more. I've only listened to OSTs 1-4 so far, so I'm sure I will hear more simlarities and/or borrowing. Thanks for the link to that thread.

This took quite some time between the announcement and the actual releasing, but now it's there at last, so thank you!

It only took so long because it took this long for me to get the game. :D

Ok.
I just came out of Avatar. Not only the movie sucks (great images but the story sucks so much I wanted to leave since the 5th minute) but the music is JUST AWFUL!

Horner killed me.
(Horner ma tuer) in french ^^

I thought you guys should be aware that there is a CD available to order from A Night in Fantasia concert including apparently a different tracklist than the concert that was posted here as a youtube rip.

http://anonym.to/?http://www.eminenceonline.com/site/shop.php?pID=26

The Limited Edition contains an audio disc and a bonus DVD with behind the scenes extras.

After two years without a concert of the magnitude of ANIF 07, Eminence performed to its largest crowd yet, at the Sydney Entertainment Centre. Featuring a full orchestra and choir, with an all-star lineup of guest composers and vocalists.

CD1: Symphonic selection from Video Games
- AFRIKA
- Chrono Cross
- Gears of War 2
- Soulcalibur: The Resonance of Souls and Swords
- Prince of Persia
- ACE COMBAT 5
- Shadow of the Colossus

CD2: Symphonic selection from Anime
- Laputa
- Princess Mononoke
- My Neighbour Totoro
- Astro Boy
- Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
- Tsubasa Chronicles
- Deathnote

More information about who arranged and composed various tracks at VGMDB
http://vgmdb.net/album/15215

Ok.
I just came out of Avatar. Not only the movie sucks (great images but the story sucks so much I wanted to leave since the 5th minute) but the music is JUST AWFUL!

Horner killed me.
(Horner ma tuer) in french ^^

You sir, are absolutely out of your god damn mind. I have trouble understanding how anyone can find this movie to be of such subpar quality. In a generation where New Moon becomes the biggest blockbuster, we should make every movie made with such care, love, and sense of quality as Avatar a reason for celebration.

Of course, this is James Cameron. This is nothing new. That man knows how to make a good blockbuster.

You sir, are absolutely out of your god damn mind. I have trouble understanding how anyone can find this movie to be of such subpar quality. In a generation where New Moon becomes the biggest blockbuster, we should make every movie made with such care, love, and sense of quality as Avatar a reason for celebration.

Of course, this is James Cameron. This is nothing new. That man knows how to make a good blockbuster.

Well, as I say, Cameron did a wonderful job. The visuals are stunning, best CGI I have ever seen in my life I think. Great sense of framing, editing... But the story IS SO LAME it is unacceptable.
This is like a mature-Sci-Fi version of Pocahontas, it's so stupid, it's so ridiculous. The bad guys are so evil, it's just too much.

And moreover, my biggest disappointement is that the movie is not surprising at all. At any moment. It's just 2h45 minutes of uninspired action. I'm sorry but today, making a movie so dumb is just unacceptable.

Maybe it's me over-reacting. Sure I am. But, come on !, how can we accept to see such a shallow story ?

And one last thing... (because it's not the right place to have this discussion)... I just HATE when movies are doing what I call the "The Patriot Effect"

How does it work ?
The hero is a good guy. He has a made just one mistake in his life (Jake Sully betrays the science officers). Then something is taken from him (in the case : the freedom of his people, the Na'vi). Then he goes berserk, kills everyone on his way until he got his revenge.
It doesn't matter if the people on his way are innocent, or just following orders. How can you fight for peace (which is the message of the movie...) BY KILLING DOZENS of soldiers, pushing people from airplanes or stabbing them with 4 meters-long arrows ?

It's just pissing me off. It's so dumb and violent... I don't care about (incredible) CGI or (amazing) landscapes, if the story is disgusting.

No, it's not you, the movie blew. A friend of mine summed it up pretty well: Underdeveloped characters moping through a weak, and highly derivative, story with poorly designed -- albeit, superbly rendered -- creatures who are nothing but thinly-veiled racial stereotypes, which practice hysterically funny mumbojumbo, while being chased by "Paleface" (who has tongue planted firmly in cheek, fortunately), on an over-designed planet that nobody could give a fuck about... all in stereo.

Plus, having been a visual effects supervisor for 20 years now, I'm of the opinion that the shader work was complex and often nice; some decent compositing work in there at times, but having the entire thing so poorly animated makes it look like a videogame. Whatever mocap data they started with obviously needed so much cleanup it just reverted to amateur animation again. So fail for the cartoon-y blue kitten people.

Plus, the score... um...


_Mike

Thanks mverta... I'm not feeling so alone finally ^^

I was not shocked by animation... but with the completly useless 3d glasses, I'm not sure of what I saw :(

Oh dear, That's that I was worried to hear about it. I was hoping the uber fake looking CG in the trailers was just because it wasn't finished when they grabbed it for the adds...I'll probably end up seeing it this weekend. Bunch of friends wanna go, so I will go, at least toss popcorn at the screen :p

and yes...listened to the score today...James Horner..what happened? Star Trek II, Apollo 13, Cocoon awesomeness, then this? What happened man?! *sobbs!*

I miss the 80's.....

Well here I goeths...I would like some help finding some beautiful music! I want some music like, Clint Mansells from The Fountain, or something that contains oriental strings. I guess another example would be Sigma Harmonics video game soundtrack, which contains alot of oriental strings. Anybody know any composers or soundtracks that have these similarities in mind?

and yes...listened to the score today...James Horner..what happened? Star Trek II, Apollo 13, Cocoon awesomeness, then this? What happened man?! *sobbs!*I miss the 80's.....
I had a sought yesterday night : often, a young composer enters the world of soundtracks by making a big, amazing, wonderful score.

Think Horner's Star Trek or Aliens, think Shearmur's Count of Monte Cristo or Sky Captain, think Tyler's Timeline...

And then they just blend with everyone else, sometimes having stroke of genius (I hope all of you have heard "Eagle Eye" ^^) but most of the time disappearing into oblivion.

Sad :(

hi there! im kinda new on this thread; i found it hard to define this kind of music / genre but there's one thing for certain in this music genre; - it gives you a dark progressive / manipulative / overpowering feeling (^_^)

im into instrumental heavy metal and classical / orchestral music;

if youre into the same, i would suggest you check the band, Nightwish (^_^)

hi there! im kinda new on this thread; i found it hard to define this kind of music / genre but there's one thing for certain in this music genre; - it gives you a dark progressive / manipulative / overpowering feeling (^_^)

im into instrumental heavy metal and classical / orchestral music;

if youre into the same, i would suggest you check the band, Nightwish (^_^)

Hello I am also new to this...at least in posting in the thread. I can recommend to you a game soundtrack that sounds like what you might be interested in...Well, it is the soundtrack of a fighting game called Blazblue! You should check it out. I doubt you will be dissapointed. Oh and I will check out that band too.

Blazeblue! I remember that game...! curses, want to play it now...

Blazeblue! I remember that game...! curses, want to play it now...

Haha well my friend I would highly recommend playing it as much as I would recommend its AMAZING soundtrack. Although not as heavy as Nightwish, the band mentioned by Mikii.

Found the thread. Credit to Vffare!

Thread 67314

Guys as much as I think you are trying to be constructive by this discussion of a classically inspired heavy metal, I believe such things have been posted on this thread before and others were not so pleased. While I personally love much of that, especially crazy awesome Rhapsody of Fire and others (heavy metal version of part of swan lake on Dark Moor's new album), this thread is more focused on awesome orchestral work and other similar off-shoots that happen to be emotional or well done relaxing works.

About avatar, I am going to leave in less than an hour and will have to link you guys to my review once I post it online.

The bad guys are so evil, it's just too much.

No, I'd say it is better to say that they just encompass human nature. They know that Earth has been bled dry by Human greed. So, the great big corporations go out in search of fuel. And they find it on Pandora.

It is not a matter that their is a sentinent alien race that lives right on top of the largest deposit of the fuel on the entire planet. It is just a matter of trying to get to the mineral.

And to be fair, they tried a diplomatic solution, but they sure as hell did a piss poor job. They absolutley failed to under the alien culture, leaving even more chaos.

But hey, why should they care? They are aliens. We are humans. If this really happened, can you honestly tell me that it would happen any way different? No, absolutely not.

Besides, they are just following orders. They are just doing what they see as best. Quaritch is just following orders. He is a military man through and through. He is not the traitor to his race - Jake Sully is. And that is essentially what Jake did. He became a traitor. There is absolutley no way you can rationalize what he did. On the other hand, Quaritch was the loyal one, the man who stayed with his people to the very end, with no insight for him getting any sort of reward beyond "A job well done".

So, no, I wouldn't say that the bad guys are "just evil". I'd say it is based totally on perspective.


And moreover, my biggest disappointement is that the movie is not surprising at all. At any moment. It's just 2h45 minutes of uninspired action. I'm sorry but today, making a movie so dumb is just unacceptable.

And I suppose the fact that it is not even 90% action makes your statement kinda false and silly, huh? There was the chase scene near the beggining and the big battle scene at the end. No way does that count up as even a third of the movie.

You seem to think that every movie must be unique in it's telling. Joseph Campbell would disagree. After all, all of mythology is the same in several startling ways.

And besides, the idea that you "know" the story beforehand makes it bad is complete bullshit. We all knew what was going to happen with Passion of the Christ. It is still an emotionally engrossing film. We know that America will win in any American War for Independence film. We know rocks fall everyone dies is what happens in every Shakespeare adaption.

They are still pretty damn pieces of movie.

I kindly await your rebuttal.

As an extension to that Doublehex, take the RPG genre for example. Everyone knows that at the end of the game you are going to save the world and kill the evil guy. Yet that doesn't make it any less entertaining to enjoy how the story is portrayed.

As an extension to that Doublehex, take the RPG genre for example. Everyone knows that at the end of the game you are going to save the world and kill the evil guy. Yet that doesn't make it any less entertaining to enjoy how the story is portrayed.

Yes, and that is true to both WRPGs and JRPGs. Except Planescape: Torment. But game is a masterpiece and it is unfair to do comparisons.

Nice discussion anyway.

First of all... If tomorrow we discover a planet with an alien race, I think we will rather follow the "Star Trek" path (and the Prime Directive) than the "Avatar" path. But I may be wrong. Maybe I'm too optimistic and nice.

Second of all. Jake Sully is a traitor but he is the hero. At the end, it really looks like Cameron has complety let go the idea than mankind can be saved which was a big part of his previous works. Remember Terminator or Abyss ?
It's sad somewhere to see that we don't even have faith in ourselves.

When I was reading your post I suddenly remembered when was the last time I saw a movie which pisses me so much. It was District 9. Once again, it's a SF movie, filled with action. And once again, it's the story of a man trapped into a alien body (for different reasons).
But the most important thing is that in both movies mankind is represented by flat characters, by shallow people. Quaritch is as narrow-minded as the bad guy in District 9 and with his determination, his motivation are just ridiculous.

I'm not saying I want to see only nice SF movies. Take "Children of Men", the antagonists' aims are motivated by something important.


And I suppose the fact that it is not even 90% action makes your statement kinda false and silly, huh? There was the chase scene near the beggining and the big battle scene at the end. No way does that count up as even a third of the movie.
What I meant (sorry, i'm french ^^) is that EVEN the action scenes are not surprising or really new. Flying things, giant robots, the last minute chance when animals of the forest are attacking - I wanted to throw up - and finally the 2 battles at the same time, one in the sky, one on the ground which can from Star Wars and that we saw in G.I. Joe this year.

Funnily, a friend of mine said : OMG! How couldyou hated Avatar and liked G.I. Joe ?
Easy : G.I. Joe is an action movie, a true blockbuster. No message about nature, no badly-hidden criticism towards how Europeans and Americans killed thousands of Native Americans during 5 centuries... It was just action (... well, two funny scenes, the rest is so-so).


As an extension to that Doublehex, take the RPG genre for example. Everyone knows that at the end of the game you are going to save the world and kill the evil guy. Yet that doesn't make it any less entertaining to enjoy how the story is portrayed.
This is an excellent comparison... oh no ! It's not !

Well I don't think it is. The RPG is more about upgrading characters, tweaking the gameplay, having fun with micro-management and so on. It's not really about "I want to free Boringlittletownland from evil guys".
This is another very long topic but for me, video game is more about rythm and WHY do I play, as movies are more about characters and WHY do THEY act.

IMO ^^

Doublehex -

At the point which you call dissenters "out of their god damn mind[s]," and their opinions "false" and "silly" you're no longer kindly awaiting anything.

I am quite sure that no thinly-veiled personal attack posing as analytical commentary is going to convince me that the pandering sillyness I endured was, in fact, entertaining. My opinion is that it wasn't.

I will offer this prediction: In the final analysis, Avatar will have made a ton of money, yet left no lasting impression. It represents no great achievement in storytelling, acting, or visual effects, save for some extremely well-rendered plants. Nonetheless, while we're glad you enjoyed it thoroughly, I'm sure we'd all just as soon have you forgo the personal insults simply because we didn't.


_Mike

," and their opinions "false" and "silly" you're no longer kindly awaiting anything.

And the idea that these words were in any way, shape or form, insulting is a foolish notion at best.


I am quite sure that no thinly-veiled personal attack posing as analytical commentary is going to convince me that the pandering sillyness I endured was, in fact, entertaining. My opinion is that it wasn't.

That was no personal attack on you. It was me defending what I saw was an excellent movie.


I will offer this prediction: In the final analysis, Avatar will have made a ton of money, yet left no lasting impression. It represents no great achievement in storytelling, acting, or visual effects, save for some extremely well-rendered plants. Nonetheless, while we're glad you enjoyed it thoroughly, I'm sure we'd all just as soon have you forgo the personal insults simply because we didn't.

Except I said nothing that the vast majority of humanity (or at the very least, Internet users) would have considered insulting.

If you think the words "silly" and "foolish" are words that can be expressed in as insulting tone, then you really have no idea whatsoever what it means to be mocked and insulted on the internet. Go to places where people just rip each other apart, call each other shitheads, faggots, retards, etc with no regards for concepts of humility, understanding or just being polite. See what cruelty really is online, and then try to tell me that I was insulting in any way.

Besides, most of what you considered insulting was in jest anyways!

Just take a breather, and get into the Avatar discussion. This is why we have forums to begin with, and besides SomethingAwful, I feel this is the only place I can have an intelligent discussion of, well, anything online.

Now that is out of the way, let's move on...


What I meant (sorry, i'm french ^^) is that EVEN the action scenes are not surprising or really new. Flying things, giant robots, the last minute chance when animals of the forest are attacking - I wanted to throw up - and finally the 2 battles at the same time, one in the sky, one on the ground which can from Star Wars and that we saw in G.I. Joe this year.

So, an epic sci-fi action movie had an epic final battle movie? Come on, you kinda knew that was coming. And there were tons of epic movies that had the last minute rescue. The Two Towers and Return of the King comes to mind (ROTK actually did it three times!).

I'd still like to know what Tango and Arthierr thought of this film. Me and Sirusjr can't be the only Avatar lovers here.

And the idea that these words were in any way, shape or form, insulting is a foolish notion at best.

Cue irony klaxxon in 3...2...1...


_Mike

Doublehex - I find it amusing that you somehow read into my earlier posts that I love avatar considering at that point I hadn't even seen it yet. However, I did find the movie to be quite deep and moving. I thought the movie did a fantastic job of getting you to be attached to the planet and the Na' Vi people such that any attack on them hurt me deep down and caused a profound sadness. Cameron is very skilled at creating stories that make you feel and I think it was done perfectly in Avatar. Because the movie had such an emotional effect on me I feel that it was well done and a success. We all know that there are tons of stories out there we've heard a thousand times but to me the rare and special ones are those that affect you personally. Avatar brought tears to my eyes at some of the most powerful scenes and the movie itself was deeply engrossing.

Well here I goeths...I would like some help finding some beautiful music! I want some music like, Clint Mansells from The Fountain, or something that contains oriental strings. I guess another example would be Sigma Harmonics video game soundtrack, which contains alot of oriental strings. Anybody know any composers or soundtracks that have these similarities in mind?

A good starting point would be the soundtracks of Wuxia movies like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers, etc. You can listen some traditional Asian instruments on these albums (Erhu, Pipa, Zither, etc), by solo but also integrated on the more symphonic parts.
On the other hand you also find western composers doing music with eastern instruments and/or with a eastern music style. John Williams (Seven Years in Tibet, Memoirs of a Geisha), Jerry Goldsmith (The Chairman, Tora Tora Tora, The Sand Pebbles), John Barry (You Only Live Twice), Maurice Jarre (Shogun), Philip Glass (Mishima).

Also you may like the music posted on The Oriental Instrumentals Thread (Thread 69150), if you look for a more traditional style.

Wow, this Avatar discussion is going a bit off-topic lately. Personally I'm not planning to see the movie for the moment, for various reasons. I'll wait for BR release I guess. Anyway, glad that you guys have fun commenting it.



I thought you guys should be aware that there is a CD available to order from A Night in Fantasia concert including apparently a different tracklist than the concert that was posted here as a youtube rip.

*drool* Thx for the news.


Now, to come back to the original purpose of this thread, my next post will be similar to Garasu no Kantai, posted here some time ago. This will be another huge Space Opera score composed for an anime, a true marvel IMHO, which deserves to be much more popularized. Coming soon :)

Glad to see somebody saw that post. I will hopefully be getting it and posting mp3s for everyone to sample.

I would like to direct all of you to Ne-mo1573's reupload of a few great soundtracks in lossless, among which are the following which I have also encoded to mp3 vbr v0 for your convenience. You will also find a link to the thread with the lossless versions by Ne-mo1573 at the bottom:






mp3 v0
The Shadow - Jerry Goldsmith (http://rapidshare.com/files/322907421/The_Shadow.rar)





mp3 v0
Sneakers - James Horner (http://rapidshare.com/files/322902769/Sneakers.rar)




Lossless Versions in this thread:
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I'll be posting mp3 v0 versions of these in a bit, but get 'em while they're hot! I couldn't really find links that were still valid for these anywhere else on the forum, and this user was kind enough to re-upload.

The Shadow - Jerry Goldsmith


I have never heard of The Shadow, in both the musical and literal sense, but I know it will be superb just based off of the fact that Jerry Goldsmith did it.

:( Why did the great have to die?

A good starting point would be the soundtracks of Wuxia movies like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers, etc. You can listen some traditional Asian instruments on these albums (Erhu, Pipa, Zither, etc), by solo but also integrated on the more symphonic parts.
On the other hand you also find western composers doing music with eastern instruments and/or with a eastern music style. John Williams (Seven Years in Tibet, Memoirs of a Geisha), Jerry Goldsmith (The Chairman, Tora Tora Tora, The Sand Pebbles), John Barry (You Only Live Twice), Maurice Jarre (Shogun), Philip Glass (Mishima).

Also you may like the music posted on The Oriental Instrumentals Thread (Thread 69150), if you look for a more traditional style.

Thanks for the link and recommendations! I better get started! Oh and Mike Verta, what are the chances of your new score being put on Itunes?

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jakob.nelson: Thanks a lot for your V0 rips, my friend. These are 2 very good scores indeed, and you had an excellent idea to post them here. :)

Now about Parnassus... It's kind of a problem. Please look at this:

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1376516&postcount=3736

Parnasus is indeed wonderful but like Arthierr said you probably shouldn't link to the other place it was posted in this thread.

Oh and Mike Verta, what are the chances of your new score being put on Itunes?

I'm working on it, which means I've sent emails/had conversations with Sony/stayed on it for a couple of weeks now, with very little response. I've also asked for the possibility of live streaming, or full sample tracks to be put up, etc.

I suspect the lack of movement is related to the fact that discussions of the contents of the DVD/Blu-Ray are being finalized right now, which may include a music-only track. Stay tuned.


_Mike

Ok, got you Arthierr. I will take the link to the other thread down, as well as the sample I posted. Done, and done. :)




Parnasus is indeed wonderful but like Arthierr said you probably shouldn't link to the other place it was posted in this thread.


That was actually on another thread, Sirus (film score/VGM hunt.) He was taking issue with the fact that it is a very new movie score, which he was very nice about.

Yeah thats what I meant, posting in this thread a link to where it was posted originally. Still I think you should do some short explanation of how awesome that one is so we can have good discussion and raise awareness. I also remember someone posted a link to legal streaming samples of that score somewhere as well.

I can't see why it would be a problem to post a link to another thread. Maybe there would be a question if I posted his link here, but I would imagine that posting a link to a thread would be completely innocuous as long as it would be okay to post that soundtrack here in the first place. It just so happens that it wasn't okay to post the soundtrack here, that's all.


About parnassus:

The score is composed by Mychael and Jeff Danna, and uses brass VERY sparingly. It feels wistful and at times very cheeky as you could expect from a film by the director of the Monty Python movies, especially in "We love violence" with silly lyrics and raucous male singers. It is also very delicate at times. I don't tend to be very verbose in writing, so sorry if you would have preferred a more exhaustive review.

Here is the official site with four tracks streamed:
http://www.imaginariumofdrparnassus.com/soundtrack

I can't see why it would be a problem to post a link to another thread.

It's because no recent movie scores should be posted here, not even links to them, because the result is the same: you give the information by which people can actually get to download a brand new score posted for free. Hence this should be avoided.

But of course there's no problem to link to older and probably out-of-print scores like the previous 2 you posted.

I was trying to argue two different points. I had no problem with taking the link down, and I respect your limitations. I'm not trying to be belligerent, sorry if it came off that way.

I'm not trying to be belligerent

Neither am I, dude! It was just a friendly and respectful precision on this particular point. :)


mverta: I tried to search on your website some links to commercial sites where your Ultraman score is available to purchase, but it doesn't seem to be some. Are you planning to add some?

Man. That's a story... I kind of don't want to get into my issues with stock and distribution of the soundtrack because it's going to make me angry. And you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Bottom line is, if I felt any one vendor had reasonable stock, I'd link to it, but I've been spending my energy trying to rectify that situation before linking. Normally, having a vendor sell out in 15 minutes would be a cause for celebration, but not when it's because they only acquire 3 at a time.


However, please know that I appreciate the interest greatly! If only I spoke Japanese, I'd get this shit sorted out in 5 minutes, trust me.


_Mike

Mr. Verta perhaps you could contact Grandis for Japanese assistance if he isn't too busy. There are a few other users on this board who have some solid understanding of the Japanese language as well. I know a guy who does Japanese english translation work but he is a bit too busy right now to be of much help.

However, please know that I appreciate the interest greatly! If only I spoke Japanese, I'd get this shit sorted out in 5 minutes, trust me.


That doesn't sound like a fun situation to be in. I hope it's not too much of a beast to get sorted out, as I'll probably buy it as well when it is available. Good luck with the language barrier. ><

Mr. Verta perhaps you could contact Grandis for Japanese assistance if he isn't too busy. There are a few other users on this board who have some solid understanding of the Japanese language as well. I know a guy who does Japanese english translation work but he is a bit too busy right now to be of much help.

Thank you; I have official translators in the pipeline. The issue isn't the language so much as the amount of pressure/persuasive energy being applied (or not) on my behalf. I'm absolutely certain the powers that be are quite clear about my feelings on the issue, and are aware of the myriad options for rectification I have suggested. The production entities have been (generously?) touting the score in official publications, reviews, books-about-the-movie, etc., but there is also a nearly conspiratorial lack of support for it in other official capacities. The official website makes absolutely no mention of it, for example, and there seems to be no interest in discussing streaming opportunities, iTunes availability, etc. But I'm a pretty good squeaky wheel.


_Mike

mverta, you may be aware of this, but just in case -- you DO understand that it is your solemn duty to play the lead role if there's ever a biopic about Kevin Spacey, right?

mverta, you may be aware of this, but just in case -- you DO understand that it is your solemn duty to play the lead role if there's ever a biopic about Kevin Spacey, right?

Unfortunately I'm previously committed to the biopic of David Schwimmer.


_Mike

Ha! I didn't notice either of those resemblances right off, but they totally work.

This is the kind of music Horner should have composed for Avatar ;) After Garasu no Kantai, posted here some time ago, here's another huge Space Opera score composed for a relatively obscure anime: Heroic Age. The highly talented Naoki Sato, another japanese composer specialized in big orchestral music, shows his skills here with a massive symphonic score, often powerful and epic, sometimes lyrical and romantic, and with many great highlights. 100% recommended.

Note: if you don't have goosebumps during the track "Star Way" in cd 1, you're not human. ;)



Heroic Age OST I- Star Way
Heroic Age OST II- Kikan

Composed By Naoki Sato

|MP3|320|240MB|

Credits to citty82

http://tinypaste.com/1d9f9

Looks like a very nice post Arthierr! I have not heard this ost before.

Heroic Age OST I- Star Way
Heroic Age OST II- Kikan

Composed By Naoki Sato

|MP3|320|240MB|

Credits to citty82


Arthierr, I noticed this earlier and started to download it. I have it now, and am beginning to listen to it. I haven't ever heard of this before, and didn't know of the composer either. There is some compelling stuff in these two albums. Thanks a bunch!




As a side note I just got back from seeing avatar, and I thought the movie was terrific. The soundtrack was disappointing I must say(although it had some near-redeeming moments) , but I thought the movie was very entertaining (I haven't heard a whole lot of Horner, and actually didn't know what the danger motif was, but my friend filled me in earlier yesterday and the soundtrack is just littered with it.) I didn't find the story to be an issue, as some other people have said. I will agree that the plants were the best-looking part of the animation, although I can't remember who said that here.

Jakob.nelson - i believe Sword of the Stranger has been posted here by the same composer. I also have another soundtrack I am going to post later today.

As we talked a lot about Avatar, here's something light and funny for a good laugh, Craig Ferguson's MONOLOGUE about it:



Craig Ferguson 12/18/9B Late Late Show MONOLOGUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHsk-pkJC1s

Jakob.nelson - i believe Sword of the Stranger has been posted here by the same composer. I also have another soundtrack I am going to post later today.

Cool, i'll be watching for it!! Also, I found Sword of the Stranger in the Lossless anime thread, but the link was gone so I re-requested it from thejoyrider, who was the uploader.

Rachael Portman - The Legend of Bagger Vance Academy Promo - 2000
|MP3|VBR V-0 Fast|68MB
|Orchestral|Relaxing|Melodic|

http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.com/files/323601057/RchlPrtmn-LgndBggrVnceFYC.rar
PSW: smile

Naoki Sato - Lorelei: The Witch of the Pacific Ocean - 2005
|MP3|VBR V-0 Fast|57MB|
|Epic|Orchestral|Choral|Dark|

http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.com/files/324915267/Lorelei_Part_2.rar
http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.com/files/323601060/NkiSto-Lrliwtch.rar
PSW: smile

Legend of Bagger Vance is an absolutely ravishing score that reminds me of Legends of the Fall. You should all check it out for sure!

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Sirusjr -- I've been looking for the Bagger Vance OST for over a year. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Hitoshi Sakimoto and Basiscape - Oboromuramasa OST - 2009
|MP3 VBR V-2|300MB|3CD|BSPE-1002~4|
Composers: Hitoshi Sakimoto / 崎元仁, Masaharu Iwata / 岩田匡治, Mitsuhiro Kaneda / 金田充弘, Kimihiro Abe / 阿部公弘, Noriyuki Kamikura / 上倉紀行, Azusa Chiba / 千葉梓, Yoshimi Kudo|
|Traditional Japanese Instrumental + Rock|

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Personally I don't enjoy this one because I find that it lacks any compelling melody. Many enjoy the style used here as it is very similar to Okami and many other soundtracks that use traditional Japanese instruments. I believe that part of the reason for the lack of melody is that is the traditional style.

its back up.

Thanks! I'm still trying to decide what I think of this composer, but my initial impression is that I like it!

Also, thanks to Sirus for Lorelei, I'm downloading it now. I'll check out bagger vance as well. I never saw that one...

Sirusjr -- I've been looking for the Bagger Vance OST for over a year. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

That's quite a hard score to find on CD at a decent price. I was fortunate enough to finally get a copy on eBay a few months ago, for a little more than $40.

That's quite a hard score to find on CD at a decent price. I was fortunate enough to finally get a copy on eBay a few months ago, for a little more than $40.
Yeah I was randomly suggested it after requesting elsewhere something orchestral off a list because I didn't know the contents. I was so blown away I had to share it here.

She also wrote a wonderful score for "Cider House Rules", which is as elegant and melodic as "... Bagger Vance". I love "Mona Lisa Smile" too, but the score is not commercially available. Maybe I'll be very lucky one day and get a copy of the Academy Promo, which IS rare.

As we talked a lot about Avatar, here's something light and funny for a good laugh, Craig Ferguson's MONOLOGUE about it:



Craig Ferguson 12/18/9B Late Late Show MONOLOGUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHsk-pkJC1s

That was hysterical. I'm now making it a note to watch this guy more often.

So I have been listening to these heroic age soundtracks :)
Thanks so much for the share Arthierr :D I really like how they are epic and relaxing on the same album and always tastefully orchestrated. This is probably my favorite Naoki Sato ost I've heard yet!

Great shares as usual guys.

Thanks for Heroic Age Arthierr! Sounds great so far. Really suiting my mood at the mo :)

And Sirus, cheers for Bagger Vance! I'm rather partial to a bit of Portman (even if she has written basically the same score over and over ;)). This one reminds me melodically a little of Broughton's gorgeous Homeward Bound. [Funny to think that Portman was initially signed up to do Mulan for Disney - that would've produced a VERY different score]

Jakob, good call on putting up The Shadow. Did you mention that you're just beginning to get into film music? I can post a compilation of more Goldsmith if you like.


I suspect the lack of movement is related to the fact that discussions of the contents of the DVD/Blu-Ray are being finalized right now, which may include a music-only track. Stay tuned.

Isolated scores are one of my absolute favourite extra features (in truth, one of the only valuable ones, as making-of docs usually play like glib extended trailers, and commentaries are rarely insightful). Great news. Sounds like a definite purchase. I've never seen an Ultraman film either :shock:

Jakob, good call on putting up The Shadow. Did you mention that you're just beginning to get into film music? I can post a compilation of more Goldsmith if you like.

Yes, I did say that earlier. I would love something like that, Lens! As far as Goldsmith goes I have recently bought Legend and Planet of the Apes, and I have a downloaded copy of The Shadow because my friend recommended it to me, and the Poltergeist LP that Tangotreats uploaded a while ago. Oh, I also have Mulan, but I forget sometimes that Goldsmith did that one.

I plan on expanding my collection of actual purchased film soundtracks, but I don't want to just go get a bunch of stuff I don't end up enjoying, so I'm exploring whatever I can find. I'm not necessarily locked onto Goldsmith, but I do love his stuff. A compilation sounds like fun. :)

I'll get on it.

Btw, do you know what that ghostly instrument is in The Shadow with those recurring soft-voiced glisandos? Perhaps it's synth? I'll have to listen to this one again.

I'll get on it.

Btw, do you know what that ghostly instrument is in The Shadow with those recurring soft-voiced glisandos? Perhaps it's synth? I'll have to listen to this one again.


I'm listening to the track "Hotel Monolith" which has some of those recurring glissandos, and I'm guessing it's some kind of roll on a flute, or some weird ethnic flute--I'm not good with odd woodwind names. It doesn't sound like synth, but for all I know it could be. Wow, every time I listen to it, I'm less sure. Maybe it is synth, there is plenty of it in other places. :(

Interesting. I hadn't even thought of it being a flute effect. It could be a ram's horn a la Planet of the Apes. I only mention it because when I first heard score it was the one thing that put me off. But wierdly I'm starting to like it!

Sirusjr: Fantastic shares! These ones are quite rare, and I didn't even know this score by Naoki Sato. Thanks a lot!



Jakob, good call on putting up The Shadow. Did you mention that you're just beginning to get into film music? I can post a compilation of more Goldsmith if you like.

I'd be quite interested in listening to your favorite pieces of the great composer, along with some of your brilliant commentaries. Please do when you have time.