*** Attention folks ***

Strange request... Does anybody still have my upload of Richard Blackford's Millennium - A Thousand Years Of History score from December? My original rip was lost in a hard disc crash and a friend currently has the CD so I can't re-rip it. Somebody is after it in the Requests thread and I'd quite like to listen again myself. All bets are off on my original upload link; it's dead.
I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks - over and out. :)

^^Yep. I'll upload now :)

I believe I do tango, i'll upload it for you.

Aww, you guys... :)

Thanks very much. Gratitude will be in the form of a Yoshihisa Hirano upload in about 20 mins. :)

^^Yep. I'll upload now :)


I believe I do tango, i'll upload it for you.

Yay! :D

It's the *least* we can do after all your phenomenal ups! Blackford's title theme is one of my fav pickmeups. And the rest of the score's not bad too ;)

Shadow mate, I've got uploadmirrors on the job. Should I cancel?

hahaha posted at the same time nice, Lens.
Mine is currently uploading but I can always cancel it if yours gets done first.

I'm 90% done with an uploadmirrors link.

Cool, I'll leave you to it then. My connection's crap-ola.

Okay here is the reupload of Millennium for Tango


RICHARD BLACKFORD
Millennium - A Thousand Years Of History
performed by
The BBC Concert Orchestra
The Bournemouth Symphony Chorus (Neville Creed, chorusmaster)
The Dufay Collective
Orchestrated and conducted by Richard Blackford




http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1LQQGDDF/RBM.zip

or Lens of Truth's upload with scans
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/14...Of_History.rar

Thanks for bringing this up again I totally forgot about it and its certainly time for me to give it another spin. ;)

Thanks a lot! :)

That's really great, one thing that amazes me is how Tango manages to pull out little gems one after another out of his pocket ;)

Thanks again chaps - Lens for the offer, and ShadowOnTheSun for the upload. I'll even forgive you for contaminating my beautiful upload with your Apple Mac folder structure. ;)

Just to be REALLY CHEEKY... Does anybody still have the scans floating about, by any chance? I could swear they were in the original upload. :)

As promised, here's a little something for those who were slightly underwhelmed by Book Of Bantorra... Here's Yoshihisa Hirano's apocalyptic choral score done right... Ladies and Gentlemen, Death Note...



YOSHIHISA HIRANO
Death Note (orchestral score)
Studio Orchestra & Chorus

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7660/deathnoteost1q.gif

Not my rip - LAME 320kbps CBR

Hirano's Full Orchestral Score: http://uploadmirrors.com/download/EWEUFSVO/YH-DN-ORCHESTRAL.rar

19 Minute Symphonic Suite: http://uploadmirrors.com/download/8HRMFERI/Yoshihisa Hirano - Death Note _Suite_.mp3

As afficionados will know, Hirano co-scored Death Note with Hideki Taniuchi. Thankfully, they didn't collaborate - they just wrote what feels like two completely independent scores in their own styles. Taniuchi's is rather poor - if you like electronica / moody rock etc, go for it... but what really stood out was Hirano's orchestral score.

Three soundtrack albums were released in total; all of them featuring some of Hirano's and some of Taniuchi's scores. I have combined all of Hirano's cues into this one upload, for a total of about 40 minutes of music.

There's not much more to say. If you like Hirano, you will love this; he's at his best - blisteringly good orchestrations (if I were to ever die in horrific circumstances, I'd want Domine Kira to underscore it) combine with his typical fifteen-different-types-of-classical-music-at-once technique, blending baroque, classical, late romantic, and bang-up-to-date modernist techniques effortlessly.

For a little bonus, I've included a 19 minute continuous suite (of my own arrangement) of the best bits; permitting the true nature of this score - a massive oratorio - to shine.

klnerfan: Deep pockets. ;)

And thanks for giving me a good idea for a joke to link to my next post on Tuesday-ish. Pockets are a clue. Have fun chewing on that. ;)

Tango's pockets are bigger on the inside ;)

By the way everyone, I just got back from Iron Man 2. I can't even give you a small bit of feedback on Debney's music. Hell I don't even believe it was there under all the noisy sound effects. Once again Hollywood wastes their money having someone compose a soundtrack for orchestra and choir (assuming the rumors I heard are true) but doesn't even bother to show it off. There wasn't a single scene in the movie besides maybe a few sappy love scenes where I could actually hear the music. As far as I am concerned if they are going this route they may as well have re-used the original and nobody would have noticed.

Just to be REALLY CHEEKY... Does anybody still have the scans floating about, by any chance? I could swear they were in the original upload.
I left mine uploading anyway, so here's an alternate link with scans:
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/14W2HFKN/Richard_Blackford_-_Millennium_-_A_Thousand_Years_Of_History.rar

The City of Lost Heaven

Composed and Conducted by Vladimir �imůnek

Orchestral/Dramatic/Relaxing/Action/Period Pieces

Since the Upload of Kameo will take awhile, here is another game score I really treasure.
This is the Original Soundtrack for a game that is as special as it's music.
It easily stands out among the dozens of other Action Game Scores.
I highly recommend it.

Download Link (http://depositfiles.com/de/files/sr0tj2gyb)

By the way everyone, I just got back from Iron Man 2. I can't even give you a small bit of feedback on Debney's music. Hell I don't even believe it was there under all the noisy sound effects. Once again Hollywood wastes their money having someone compose a soundtrack for orchestra and choir (assuming the rumors I heard are true) but doesn't even bother to show it off. There wasn't a single scene in the movie besides maybe a few sappy love scenes where I could actually hear the music. As far as I am concerned if they are going this route they may as well have re-used the original and nobody would have noticed.
This sort of thing can totally ruin a film and seems to be the norm. The reversal of dynamics between quiet scenes and action scenes is pure technical incompetence as much as it's insensitivity; the music is treated as a minor component in the NOISE that's supposed to get audiences going; meanwhile it gets amped up to fill the emotionless VOID in 'character moments'.

The only reason Hollywood keeps orchestral scores in any form is that they're so complacent. It's the thing that's *done*. Maybe one day they'll realise what they really wanted all along - the purest cacophony of sound effects, cgi and cheesy dialogue :/

The worst part is as soon as they have some rock music in a major scene thats ALL you hear. Shows that they respect the rock groups more than the composer.

By the way everyone, I just got back from Iron Man 2. I can't even give you a small bit of feedback on Debney's music. Hell I don't even believe it was there under all the noisy sound effects. Once again Hollywood wastes their money having someone compose a soundtrack for orchestra and choir (assuming the rumors I heard are true) but doesn't even bother to show it off. There wasn't a single scene in the movie besides maybe a few sappy love scenes where I could actually hear the music. As far as I am concerned if they are going this route they may as well have re-used the original and nobody would have noticed.

That's a damn shame... I think Debney's projects lately have been rather mediocre lately and that this might get him back onto top form. I've been really wanting to know how it turns out.


This sort of thing can totally ruin a film and seems to be the norm. The reversal of of dynamics between quiet scenes and action scenes is pure technical incompetence as much as it's insensitivity; the music is treated as a minor component in the NOISE that's supposed to get audiences going; meanwhile it gets amped up to fill the emotionless VOID in 'character moments'.

The only reason Hollywood keeps orchestral scores in any form is that they're so complacent. It's the thing that's *done*. Maybe one day they'll realise what they really wanted all along - the purest cacophony of sound effects, cgi and cheesy dialogue :/

I remember reading an interview with Christopher Young saying that it sometimes kills him how it turns out on the dubbing stage, seeing all that work get buried under bangs and crashes... I don't blame him. Personally, I think it's actually a bit disrespectful to the composer to just bury it under a fury of sound and the dialogue; I know people are there to watch the film, but still...

The worst part is as soon as they have some rock music in a major scene thats ALL you hear. Shows that they respect the rock groups more than the composer.

Well, Rock is "Real Music" after all ;)

I know I bang on about this all the time.. but to most people orchestral music is worthless, an embarrassment. It's a deep routed thing, not just an innocent consumerist preference of 'genre'.

I'm amazed that today's blockbuster movies have orchestral scores at all!


I remember reading an interview with Christopher Young saying that it sometimes kills him how it turns out on the dubbing stage, seeing all that work get buried under bangs and crashes... I don't blame him. Personally, I think it's actually a bit disrespectful to the composer to just bury it under a fury of sound and the dialogue; I know people are there to watch the film, but still...
Young got a fairly good deal on Drag Me to Hell as I recall. A real pleasure to hear intelligent music given its due in the mix!

debney simply did what they wanted. i will be dissapointed when predators goes the same route.and remember, favreaus next movie is cowboys vs. aliens.

This one cue represents a level of skill which absolutely no up-and-comer possesses. When one does not have the ability to write concert music, one cannot write the concert-music-based filmscores which define virtually all the greatest scores in the last 100 years.

I know of a certain female Japanese composer/songwriter who seems to have mastered the art of the concert-music-based score; one who is said to bring balance to the force.

I know of a certain female Japanese composer/songwriter who seems to have mastered the art of the concert-music-based score; one who is said to bring balance to the force.

Ah yes, but doesn't she lend a slightly different connotation to "concert-music-based" ;)

Ryo Kunihiko - Saiunkoku Monogatari Original Soundtrack 1 and 2
|MP3|320kbps|From Nipponsei|Scans(Only in OST1)|
|Traditional Asian|Orchestral|Piano|

Original Soundtrack 1
Download Soundtrack 1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/384975255/RK-SMST1-M.rar)
PSW: smile
Original Soundtrack 2
Download Soundtrack 2 (http://rapidshare.com/files/384983728/RK-SMST2-M.rar)
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Hi Everyone,

I would like to engage in a discussion about Film Scores, and was considering starting a new thread with the following:

Film Score Discussion:

Things I like about film scores:

1) The parallel movement of a film's story and the development of the accompanying musical soundscape
2) Moments of Action or Comedy punctuated by musical phrases
3) Theme build to Triumph
4) The Journey Variation ("Quest")
5) Interpolating or layering of themes
6) Theme Key Progression ("Darkest Hour")
7) Fascination with composers' ability to fit themes exactly within the frame of the on-screen action
8) End Credit Suites
9) Development/Expansion/Variations of themes across sequels
10) Musical Choices--a capella, voices, quiet instead of loud
11) The John Williams school of Leitmotif
12) Composer "isms"--signature orchestration/instrumentation
13) Best Statement of a Theme
14) Best Score Moments

I have descriptions/examples of each item on the list, and I was going to post them one at a time.

Please help me out if there is a better place to put this. I wasn't sure if a new thread just for this would be appropriate. (Says the new guy).

@P51Mustang

I definetly like your idea and I can tell from experience that this thread has a nice balance between uploads and discussions.
However, this thread is more universal when it comes to orchestrations and scores, it isn't limited to merely film music alone.
So if you only want to discuss the topic "film music" with others, I suggest that a new thread would be the best solution.

Any new thread of this nature would have to be put in the general discussions and not download links section.

Alfred Newman - The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Beau Geste
Moscow Symphony Orchestra and Chorus conducted by William T. Stromberg
|MP3|VBR V-0|220MB|Scans|
|Orchestral|Romantic|Choral|Epic|

Download (http://hotfile.com/dl/41951895/d40d2aa/AN-HNDBG-M.rar.html)
PSW: smile

Many times I have avoided earlier scores because many of the remaining recordings of these old scores don't sound all that great after aging. This is a re-recording of two fantastic scores by Alfred Newman and are highly recommended.

*several Ultraman soundtracks*

You seem to know what's what when it comes to these soundtracks. I don't think I've ever heard an Ultraman score before. Would it be at all possible if you could make a small compilation of your favourite tracks to sample? I think it would benefit us Ultraman virgins who are overwhelmed by the abundance of material covered here.

You should start with the Ultraman Gaia soundtracks in my Sahashi thread, the ultraman Max soundtracks tango posted and the two ultraman symphony albums tango posted.

Hi Everyone,

I would like to engage in a discussion about Film Scores, and was considering starting a new thread with the following:

Film Score Discussion:

Things I like about film scores:

1) The parallel movement of a film's story and the development of the accompanying musical soundscape
2) Moments of Action or Comedy punctuated by musical phrases
3) Theme build to Triumph
4) The Journey Variation ("Quest")
5) Interpolating or layering of themes
6) Theme Key Progression ("Darkest Hour")
7) Fascination with composers' ability to fit themes exactly within the frame of the on-screen action
8) End Credit Suites
9) Development/Expansion/Variations of themes across sequels
10) Musical Choices--a capella, voices, quiet instead of loud
11) The John Williams school of Leitmotif
12) Composer "isms"--signature orchestration/instrumentation
13) Best Statement of a Theme
14) Best Score Moments

I have descriptions/examples of each item on the list, and I was going to post them one at a time.

Please help me out if there is a better place to put this. I wasn't sure if a new thread just for this would be appropriate. (Says the new guy).

These are excellent, but I don't think a new thread would be entirely necessary; this discussion can fit here very well, and those points don't just relate to film music, but music from TV, games and anime. It'd be interesting to see them all diverge and intersect.

Hey there! Finally I decided to do a thing, that I wanted to do for some time, but I never... did. So, as I said somewhere, I write music a bit. No education, no knowledge, almost deaf (;)), yet I decided to make music writing my little hobby. So, I wanna share with you few of my... creations. They are far from perfection, not very complex, I'm shitty when it comes to mastering (even worse than when it comes to composition), but I think there is a chance, that some crazy dude (or "dudess";)) will like 'em. Samples that I use are far from being great though... my skills too. Still tell me what U think, be harsh as sandpaper. I'm not gonna stop it anyways;). So enjoy. Or not.


Beware!


30 minutes+ of my own music


Track list:

01 First Cruise
02 Escape from Sky Fortress
03 Royal City
04 Space Travellers
05 Underwater Adventure
06 Shadows over Cradle
07 Welcome to Disturbingville
08 Winter Fantasia
09 (Bonus) Alien Behind You


Magical Megaupload Link

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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KT7G6L6Y

These are excellent, but I don't think a new thread would be entirely necessary; this discussion can fit here very well, and those points don't just relate to film music, but music from TV, games and anime. It'd be interesting to see them all diverge and intersect.

With all due respect - and appreciation for the enthusiasm! - I would personally need an offensive amount of space to even begin to address this list, which itself could do with some revision; it seems to have a lot of overlap/repetition and perhaps some misapplied terminology/concepts. I would strongly encourage the OP to start a new thread; something perhaps entitled - Film Scoring: Every Last Aspect of the Entire Discipline Explained. :)


_Mike

Considering Ultraman Soundtracks: Gaia, Max, Mebius & 8 Ultra Brothers are a really great listening experience as most of us here will agree.
If you have listened to them and if you want more of the above then you can check out Battle in Hyperspace, Ultra Battle, Dyna (80s Rock meets Orchestra) and The Next Ultraman (Hard Rock meets Orchestra).
Considering the Symphonies: The Ultraman Symphony, Ultraman Great (Towards the Future) and The Ultraseven Symphony Tango posted are highly recommended and you simply have to listen to ALL of them.

Ah, and most recently Mike Verta's Galaxy Legends is quite famous around here ;)

Alfred Newman - The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Beau Geste
Moscow Symphony Orchestra and Chorus conducted by William T. Stromberg

Well done for uploading this - a lovely disc. It's been reissued absurdly cheaply in the main Naxos line, alongside others including The Egyptian, Maltese Falcon, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Objective Burma.

All three movies come highly recommended as well, particularly Beau Geste and Eve; sublime, intelligent, classic Hollywood at its best!!

I know of a certain female Japanese composer/songwriter who seems to have mastered the art of the concert-music-based score; one who is said to bring balance to the force.

Which one, Kanno or Oshima?

Revised opinion, despite my love for Oshima scores she doesn't really fit with what he was talking about as much as Kanno does.

From his tone, and following-on from what Mike was saying, I thought he meant Kanno.

I'm fairly certain he was talking about Kanno; his love for her music is well known. That plus the fact that, magnificent genius though Oshima is, her music is rarely of a concert-hall style. Kanno's orchestral music tends to come in little, completely self-contained symphonies.

Excellent post: great music and nice presentation ! I believe it's your 1st album posted here, Szczepan, so it's a remarkable entrace you just made !


Thank you very much for kind words arthierr:) However, it wasn't my 1st upload here;) K�nig der letzten Tage, which I also recommend, was my 1st share here.

btw
Huge thanks for both "Millennium - A Thousand Years Of History" and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Beau Geste"!

I'm fairly certain he was talking about Kanno; his love for her music is well known. That plus the fact that, magnificent genius though Oshima is, her music is rarely of a concert-hall style. Kanno's orchestral music tends to come in little, completely self-contained symphonies.

Wouldn't that be awesome if someone ;) would post a compilation of Kanno's best orchestral music - or why not all of it ?

I'm pretty sure many people would enjoy that, or at least be interested. People mostly knowing only north american and european orchestral music could certainly use such compilation. Asian orchestral music (especially coming from animes !) tends to be so much overlooked, so it could help opening some eyes.

However, Streich's compilations and analysis are still available here (yes, one and a half years later !):



Action music by Yoko Kanno - first set
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1138374&postcount=219

Action music by Yoko Kanno - 2nd set
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1144412&postcount=276



Thank you very much for kind words arthierr:) However, it wasn't my 1st upload here;) K�nig der letzten Tage, which I also recommend, was my 1st share here.

I stand corrected, then ;) I have an excellent memory, but remembering 5000+ posts is a little above my skills !



To celebrate this, I am planning to upload one of my favorite fantasy scores for a video game.
It's the score for the XBOX 360 Game "Kameo: Elements of Power" released in 2005.
But I'm not talking about the offical soundtrack or another gamerip.
Instead I will share with you the Complete Recordings done by Composer Steve Burke with The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra & Kings Choir, conducted by Nic Raine.
Special vocal performances are done by Aisling Duddy and Eveline Novakovic.

The Complete Recordings will consist of 3 CDs, 90 tracks and over 200 min of music including alternate versions of some tracks and previously unrelased cues in excellent quality (but still lossy).
It will take some time to upload it (500mb) so be patiened.

Cool, I only listened to selected tracks from Kameo (posted long, long ago in this very thread). I'd be curious to hear more of it, even though 200 min seems like quite a big cake to eat !



Hi Everyone,

I would like to engage in a discussion about Film Scores, and was considering starting a new thread with the following:

Film Score Discussion:

Things I like about film scores:

1) The parallel movement of a film's story and the development of the accompanying musical soundscape
2) Moments of Action or Comedy punctuated by musical phrases
3) Theme build to Triumph
4) The Journey Variation ("Quest")
5) Interpolating or layering of themes
6) Theme Key Progression ("Darkest Hour")
7) Fascination with composers' ability to fit themes exactly within the frame of the on-screen action
8) End Credit Suites
9) Development/Expansion/Variations of themes across sequels
10) Musical Choices--a capella, voices, quiet instead of loud
11) The John Williams school of Leitmotif
12) Composer "isms"--signature orchestration/instrumentation
13) Best Statement of a Theme
14) Best Score Moments

I have descriptions/examples of each item on the list, and I was going to post them one at a time.

Please help me out if there is a better place to put this. I wasn't sure if a new thread just for this would be appropriate. (Says the new guy).

Not sure this is the right place is for you. We have many times talked about such topics in this thread, but not in themselves, as a general subject, but more about the scores posted here or that have been recently released. If you want to start some general discussions about these subjects, there are other more suitable places, like the FSM board or Maintitles, for instance.




Beware!


30 minutes+ of my own music

[CENTER]Magical Megaupload Link

You're full of surprises, these days, aren't you ? ;) I'll check this and you can count on having some comments later.

Wouldn't that be awesome if someone ;) would post a compilation of Kanno's best orchestral music - or why not all of it ?

Oh, wouldn't that just be wonderful? I wonder who might possibly do that...




SYMPHONIC YOKO KANNO
A 75 Minute Compilation
The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra, The Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, et al
Conducted by Anthony Inglis, Yoko Kanno, Mario Klemens, et al

Track Listing:

1. Sousei No Aquarion (suite)
2. The Creation (The Creation)
3. Nobunaga's Ambition (suite)
4. Song To Fly (The Ship)
5. Macross Plus (Break Out - Cantabile)
6. Ghost In The Shell - Stand Alone Complex (Hantou No Higashi)
7. Brain Powerd (suite)
8. Turn A Gundam (suite)
9. Wolf's Rain (suite)
10. Ragnarok Online 2 (suite)
11. The Vision of Escaflowne (Angel - The Story Of Escaflowne [End Title])
12. Macross Frontier (The Target)
13. Bonus Track - Nobunaga's Ambition (original soundtrack recording of Destructive Army)


Part 1: http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1YF5S10B/YK-SYKCOMP.part1.rar
Part 2: http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0OTZSSBB/YK-SYKCOMP.part2.rar




OK, so I cheated... My terminally bad memory is, on this occasion, responsible for the superhuman speed with which I concocted this compilation; in fact, I arranged it two years ago and completely forgot to post it. Never mind, though... Please enjoy this - a carefully arranged selection of some of Kanno's finest orchestral music.

I tried to avoid some of the more obvious choices; after all, there's nothing worse than a John Williams compilation that is nothing but Imperial March, Flying Theme, Raiders March, etc... and so on this Kanno album I attempted to be a bit more selective. In some cases (Escaflowne, Turn A Gundam) I chose more romantic pieces in lieu of the usual action cues. All in the spirit of discovery - everybody must know Dance Of Curse by now, but are they familiar with the heartbreakingly beautiful end credits suite...?

Herein you will find her anime work represented in Sousei No Aquarion, Macross Plus, Macross Frontier, Ghost In The Shell, Brain Powerd, Turn A Gundam, Wolf's Rain, and The Vision Of Escaflowne... video games are represented by Ragnarok Online 2 and Nobunaga's Ambition... and from her solo album Song To Fly, we have a wonderful piece called "The Ship" and some of her very earliest work from "The Creation".

There's also a short bonus track - it's a smaller orchestra rendition of Nobunaga's Ambition... Purely because there was two minutes left and nothing particularly to fill it with.

Since I wrote a lengthy programme note to go along with this compilation back in 2008, I shall now quote myself...

"This is Yoko Kanno in full, shameless, symphonic mode. Here you will find almost every major Kanno orchestral work represented – some tracks are mini-suites I have arranged from several individual cues. You will not find small ensemble, chamber, or solo pieces – this is exclusively fully symphonic music, which comprises a mere fraction of Kanno’s repertoire.

"Make no mistake – the allegations that Kanno is a terminal plagiarist are completely true, and never with such naked clarity as in her orchestral music. But what plagiarism! Try – try very, very hard – to suspend that morality in your head that tells you that you shouldn’t enjoy this. Try to not be distracted by the dozens of classical and film compositions that have been shamelessly plundered herein. Don’t expect originality. Do expect to hear barefaced thefts from classical masters and Western film composers, and definitely expect ravishing orchestrations, heartbreaking harmonies, and mini symphonic masterpieces.

Enjoy :)

Haha, in fact I was pretty sure you had one already prepared waiting to be posted, because you evocated such thing long ago in this thread (yes, again my excellent memory).

Great stuff, it makes a long time I haven't had some piece of Kanno (no pun intended), so this will be a real delight. Btw, what's the sound quality ? Streich's selections are very good but the bitrate is only 128k...

Haha tango your compilation is awesome and yet your forgetfulness is hilarious. I shall enjoy this even though I have all the albums referenced separately to listen to.

Quality is variable; most tracks are at LAME -V0 but some are re-encoded from originals at 320kbps. One is native 320, and one is native 192. I regret re-encoding, but I had little choice as I didn't have FLAC sources for some of the scores included.

Therefore, the quality - whilst very good indeed - will probably fall a little short compared to what you'd get if you downloaded the albums individually.

Since I now do have all these scores losslessly, I suppose I really should make another compilation... Perhaps tomorrow if my CDJapan order doesn't show up... ;)

TT

Haha awesome. Too bad in frame number 3 he has two pairs of glasses.

(source of great amusement)

I love the artwork in that... but the typical ignorance of the cartoonist ("classical songs") combined with his lack of actual knowledge (missed opportunities... Kanno plagiarises Williams, etc) make it a bit of a damp squib.

...or am I just being a snobby boring git? Probably... Oh well. Thanks anyway! ;)

pic ?

Oh crap, it tells:

"Error: exceeded maximum number of unique IP addresses for this download ticket."

I hope I'll be able to see this thing soon.

I am obviously a late arrival to the thread by looking at my join date, and I was wondering if anyone here liked Yoko Kanno as I hadn't seen it discussed at all. What I did not realize was that it was discussed it detail before I arrived! Thanks for the compilations and analysis, streich and tango!

I am obviously a late arrival to the thread by looking at my join date, and I was wondering if anyone here liked Yoko Kanno as I hadn't seen it discussed at all. What I did not realize was that it was discussed it detail before I arrived! Thanks for the compilations and analysis, streich and tango!

You can have LOADS more Kanno discussions and analysis in the "Kanno superbitching flame-from-hell thread" (to quote Tango), right there:

Thread 47636

Ha, I don't think I would venture to add to that discussion. I would, however, love to see someone post that Nobunaga's Ambition: Chronicles of Heaven album that has a few tracks featured in one of Streich's actions packs, if anyone has it. I'm not sure why I don't have that one, and would love to hear the whole thing!

Oh, wouldn't that just be wonderful? I wonder who might possibly do that...




SYMPHONIC YOKO KANNO
A 75 Minute Compilation
The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra, The Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, et al
Conducted by Anthony Inglis, Yoko Kanno, Mario Klemens, et al





Thanks tangotreats for the upload. The only music from Yoko Kanno that I've heard before is the Darker than Black (season 1) soundtrack. So its nice of you to have put up a 'best of' compilation for us newbies to get to Yoko Kanno a bit better.

Jo.

I haven't posted much lately, so here is something new.
This a Star Trek Compilation made not only for the more impatient to keep entertained until the soundtrack for the new movie get released, but also for the ones that never heard this music before.
It's not a typical compilation, because i avoid to include most of main themes and in the chronological dates the films were made, like an usual compilation does.
I also included a track from a scene of the original Star Trek series (Track 6), which was parodied by Jim Carrey on the movie Cable Guy.
Look here for the original scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U) and the Cable Guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O23EzxT-Ug) scene.
Enjoy.




Star Trek - Music Compilation

1. Star Trek Theme from Star Trek: The Motion Picture (20th Anniversay Collector's Edition) by Alexander Courage
2. Main Title from Star Trek: The Motion Picture by Jerry Goldsmith
3. Stealing The Enterprise from Star Trek III: The Search For Spock by James Horner
4. My Right Arm from Star Trek: Nemesis by Jerry Goldsmith
5. Hospital Chase from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home by Leonard Rosenman
6. The Ritual/Ancient Battle/2nd Kroykah from Star Trek: The Original Series - Volume 2 by Gerald Fried
7. Red Alert from Star Trek: First Contact by Jerry Goldsmith
8. The Nexus/A Christmas Hug from Star Trek: Generations by Dennis McCarthy
9. Not Functioning from Star Trek: Insurrection by Jerry Goldsmith
10. A Busy Man from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier by Jerry Goldsmith
11. The Battle For Peace from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country by Cliff Eidelman
12. Epilogue/End Title from Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan by James Horner

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/219091871/Star_Trek.zip)

could you reupload this compilation? I really love star trek music.

You can have LOADS more Kanno discussions and analysis in the "Kanno superbitching flame-from-hell thread" (to quote Tango), right there:

Thread 47636

:sigh:
I still think about that thread from time to time. Anyway, thanks to tangotreats and arthierr for generously allowing others to experience Kanno and see why people cut her some slack, despite it all.

Michael Giacchino & Chris Tilton Fracture Original Game Soundtrack please download

With all due respect - and appreciation for the enthusiasm! - I would personally need an offensive amount of space to even begin to address this list, which itself could do with some revision; it seems to have a lot of overlap/repetition and perhaps some misapplied terminology/concepts. I would strongly encourage the OP to start a new thread; something perhaps entitled - Film Scoring: Every Last Aspect of the Entire Discipline Explained. :)


_Mike

Well, if you put it like that... either way, I would really love to see your thoughts and response, here or in a new thread!

On Kanno, I tend to think of her as James Horner of the east... she's very capable of doing something well herself, but personally I think that at times her lifting and borrowing becomes a bit too close for comfort.

Michael Giacchino & Chris Tilton Fracture Original Game Soundtrack please download

I just find it interesting how two years ago I would never imagine seeing Tango Treats posting a compilation of Kanno's best music, considering he would consider her best plagiarist shit!

You do mellow with age, after all, but sometimes aspects of you just downright change completely. A total overhaul, if you will. I just find that aspect of people downright interesting.

What spurred the change? Two years wasn't that long ago.

My views on Kanno haven't changed in the slightest; I've *always* found her music technically brilliant and incredibly enjoyable to listen to. At the same time, it *is* 90% plagiarism; once this is acknowledged, I don't really care. Hence my disclaimer: "Make no mistake � the allegations that Kanno is a terminal plagiarist are completely true, and never with such naked clarity as in her orchestral music. But what plagiarism! Try � try very, very hard � to suspend that morality in your head that tells you that you shouldn�t enjoy this. Try to not be distracted by the dozens of classical and film compositions that have been shamelessly plundered herein. Don�t expect originality. Do expect to hear barefaced thefts from classical masters and Western film composers, and definitely expect ravishing orchestrations, heartbreaking harmonies, and mini symphonic masterpieces."

I never once suggested that she is crap (only a fool would pursue that particular avenue) - merely that she is a thief. Stolen gold is still gold; as I said, I don't listen to Kanno for originality. I listen for the sheer spectacle; each orchestral cue is like a best-of-the-best medley of classical and film music. And it's all strung together with incredible skill. :)

could you reupload this compilation? I really love star trek music.

stackerwlf, you're seriously getting on my nerves, dude.

1) You make multiple requests without even waiting for the 1st ones to be answered

2) To do so, you quote FULL POSTS, without even removing the images, as everybody here do

3) Last time Garcia had the kindness to re-upload the Silvestri album for you, and you didn't even THANK him for that

4) And now you make AGAIN the same mistake, requesting an album doing a FULL QUOTE, without removing the image, and without even saying PLEASE.

Do you realize that, given these elements, your requests aren't welcome anymore here, unless you change your behavior.

And why not, maybe you could start GIVING something, instead of repeatedly ASKING only for stuff - that would grant you a much better reputation here, and maybe then people would accept to answer your request.

Oh crap, it tells:

"Error: exceeded maximum number of unique IP addresses for this download ticket."

I hope I'll be able to see this thing soon.

I don't know what happened the pic just disappeared, but it's up now again.



could you reupload this compilation? I really love star trek music.

I posted a new link.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1223521&postcount=1568

I actually have avoided listening to Kanno until now, purely on the thief reputation. I thought the plaigerisms would probably annoy me. But listening to Tango's samples, I have to agree. If you ignore that alot of material is copied off of someone else, she does create a quite wonderful and polished product.

RICHARD BLACKFORD
Mirror Of Perfection (1997 - Classical Work)
Ying Huang, Soprano
Bo Skovhus, Baritone
Bournemouth Symphony Chorus (Neville Creed, Director)
Ballard Lane Preparatory School Choir (Elizabeth Nayler, Director)
Bournemouth Sinfonietta
conducted by
Richard Blackford



My Rip - Scans (including notes in English, French, and German, and lyrics in English and Italian) - LAME 3.98.4 -V0

[Trivia Note: The Bournemouth Sinfonietta - one of Southern England's finest Chamber ensembles - disbanded shortly after making this recording. Funding was cut and the decision was made to sacrifice the Sinfonietta so that the full sized Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra might survive. The beautiful venue for this recording, the Bournemouth Winter Gardens, was flattened in 2007 courtesy of Bournemouth Borough Council's penny pinching... so this recording serves as an excellent memorial for both ensemble and venue. The Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra is flourishing today, but classical music in the South of England was never quite the same without the Sinfonietta and the Gardens. History lesson over - sorry - on with the show...]

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/G0AFMLEN/RB-MOP.rar

I worried and debated with myself the merits of posting this... It's not action music. It's not even film music. It's a piece of contemporary classical music that changed my life. I first heard it when I was fourteen; I endured a four hour bus ride (I couldn't afford the train) and spent three weeks pocket money going up to HMV in Oxford Street to buy it. It's one of those pieces that became a part of me - one of those experiences you have and instantly you know you will never forget. It has more meaning for me because I played it a lot during my transitional years - as I made the awkward leap from adolescent to adult, it was a constant.

All that apart, it's by Richard Blackford - who of course composed the Millennium - A Thousand Years Of History score that was recently uploaded by two very good gentlemen, Lens of Truth, and ShadowOnTheSun. So, if anything, we can follow along the "If you liked that, try this..." route. This thread has always been about taking risks and discovering new things. I can't think of a better piece of music to take a risk on than this one.

Just to clarify a few points... I realise that most of you will have heard the words "contemporary classical" and will now be running for the hills. Fear not. In the midst of the contemporary classical world - with all its intellectual posturing, and emotionally dead, ridiculously complicated mathematical music, great men like Richard Blackford make a stand for emotion, tonality, lyricism, melody, beauty, and simplicity. This is beautiful music, not clever music - I realise that sort of description may sound trite, but I don't think I've ever known anybody translate positivity, elegance, and purity so succinctly into music. This isn't joyous music, though it will make you feel joy - the exact kind you feel on a sleepy day of perfect contentment.

St Francis Of Assisi's words (sung in their original Italian) cut right through to the bone - and Blackford's setting is almost a direct translation of meaning to harmony.

As I say, this isn't clever, or bombastic, or loud... it's just gorgeous.

Trust your old buddy Tangotreats and give this one a try. :)

Enjoy :)
TT

Ooo a Tango recommendation ought to be a good one — nabbing it now, thank you very much!

RICHARD BLACKFORD
Mirror Of Perfection (1997 - Classical Work)



Just what the doctor ordered, a wonderful heartfelt work.

Thanks tango, comments to come.
EDIT: first cue is amazing. Fantastic emotional choral work.
EDIT 2: the whole thing is awesome. Great stuff.

I know it's been a while since my last post, but I'd like to thank everybody for the warm reception. :) Thanks also to Tango for the Kanno compilation and the Blackford, which is absolutely beautiful from the little I've heard so far.

RE: Kanno, I fell in love with her work for Cowboy Bebop and only stumbled upon her orchestral output via the infamous thread arthierr mentioned earlier, and thus simultaneously with her rampant plagiarism. I discovered that some of my favorite tracks from Bebop were blatant thefts, and part of the adolescent in me died just as part of the kid in me died when I heard the opening of Schumann's 3rd and discovered that James Horner had, in fact, NOT composed my favorite fantasy theme. ["That, however, is another story." ;)] Angry, I sampled only a few orchestral pieces on YouTube. The most vivid impression made at the time was "Dance of Curse," which at first seemed impressive but, after the second or third playthrough, began to wear thin -- while technically quite accomplished, it lacked that raw creative nerve (I suppose for obvious reasons) that gives the best pieces their staying power. Lacking a better term, it was ridiculously complicated bubble-gum music.

With Tango's compilation, I decided to give orchestral Kanno another listen. My opinion of the hollowness of her music remains, but I'm even more astounded by the complexity and precision of her orchestrations. It's obvious the lady has boatloads of talent; a tremendous pity she only uses it to paste together snippets of others' works. However, I have discovered that I can enjoy it, even if just on the technical level.

On a brighter note, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in the Prague re-recording of Nino Rota's Romeo & Juliet? It's one of my favorite romantic scores and I need to re-rip it anyway.

Cheers!

On a brighter note, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in the Prague re-recording of Nino Rota's Romeo & Juliet? It's one of my favorite romantic scores and I need to re-rip it anyway.

That sounds like a smashing idea, I'm interested.

On a brighter note, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in the Prague re-recording of Nino Rota's Romeo & Juliet? It's one of my favorite romantic scores and I need to re-rip it anyway.

Cheers!

Definitely very interested! I think the re-recording of El Cid is quite nice too. I would rip and upload it, if only I had the connection... :-(

TazerMonkey - Thank you, you've summed-up almost exactly how I feel about Kanno! Her music has made me more acutely aware than ever of what it is I actually value and respond to. I totally respect the views of others on this, and the love in this thread, which I'm sure never descends into blind worship, but I must say, I actually find it all depressing in the extreme. The cynically sustained mystique that surrounds her simply can't disguise the "impressiveness" and "accomplishment" of her music as a sickening pejorative. The experience of listening to this stuff is like being told constantly, and with disturbing persuasion, that music is primarily the product of technicians, a process of calculation and assemblage; further, that all those lovely, breath-taking moments that have moved you are reproducible without artistic intent; that plagiarism is ultimately irrelevant and untraceable.

Give me Horner and his thefts any day over Kanno! Why? Because even when he does steal, you still hear the expression of a human emotive being behind it all.

Tango - I'm very excited to listen to more from Richard Blackford :) Thank you very much! Has he done any other work in film/tv?

TazerMonkey - Thank you, you've summed-up almost exactly how I feel about Kanno! .........(snip)

Agree entirely with this and with the quote you referred to. If I may quote myself again from 2008...

"Kanno, like her music, is purely conceptual, committee-driven, manufactured. It's a technique that obviously works because people love the music and she sells probably more CDs than anybody in her arena. But when I listen to music, I like to feel closer to the human being whose soul conjured it up. When you listen to anime music, video game music, film music, you're hearing AN INDIVIDUAL and their expression of emotion in a particular scene.

If you hire somebody and they give you a technically stunning pot-pourri of other people's ideas - valid ideas, ideas that work beautifully in context, but still other people's ideas... Why did you hire them?

Music becomes a workmanlike, faceless function of your anime, video game, or movie.

And the people who had the ideas initially - those ideas that make you cry when you hear Escaflowne's ending titles, or makes your heart pound when you hear Dance of Curse - THEY'RE the people you're getting to know. But you don't know it was them. That person has affected you emotionally and you're not even told who they are. Somebody else has manipulated your emotions using somebody else's face and they claim the credit for the affect their manipulation had on you.


Give me Horner and his thefts any day over Kanno! Why? Because even when he does steal, you still hear the expression of a human emotive being behind it all.

Indeed that. Kanno is the ridiculously powerful orchestrating supercomputer that generates impressive music out of theory and melodic fragments stored in its database. Horner is a human being. (Most of the time... f$&*ing Avatar....)


Tango - I'm very excited to listen to more from Richard Blackford :) Thank you very much! Has he done any other work in film/tv?

He has worked extensively in Germany, just as John Scott found a second career in France. A few bits and pieces in the UK, but nothing recently however... If memory serves, he finished a choral piece called Voices Of Exile but since it has that displicable ethnic wailing crap, I haven't listened... Perhaps it might be worth a listen anyway...

Years ago, I did the sound design and re-mixes for the American dubs of Cowboy Bebop, and thus became intimately familiar with her music. Coming from a Big Band/Jazz background, I thought some of it was pretty hip.

In regards to her plagiarism: personally, while I have "suffered" under comparisons to John Williams - sometimes as compliment, occasionally as insult - I've never needed to outright steal ideas in order to say something musically. I think that's creatively and morally bankrupt. I'm not talking about the occasional homage or tongue-in-cheek nod; those are often endearing and wonderful. I've heard it suggested that someone who can re-assemble pieces cohesively must possess an inherent mastery of the music itself. I disagree. In my own experience, this is the first step when learning a style - you copy/steal/imitate because you do not yet understand, fundamentally, what makes the music work in the first place. In time, when your musical brain begins to recognize patterns and structure, and eventually solves the underlying riddle to its effectiveness, your own voice naturally takes over and you find yourself able to speak the language without having to mouth others' words.

That some composers never make it to that last step is to me an indication that they precisely don't have the deep understanding and mastery of the material. I would find it nearly impossible to possess that knowledge, yet never use it. And if you'll forgive the somewhat existential take, I feel that if you do have it and never exercise it, then you do not exist, musically. Your musical contribution remains potential energy alone, and what you manifest in its place are merely projections of the accomplishments of others. There is little in that which I recognize as art.


_Mike

This has all been terribly interesting, an I must say I have to agree with everything lens, tango and mike said. It would indeed seem that Ms. Kanno is, in short, a musical infant with a great knack for memorization, merely repeating what has been processed previously. I must admit that her music is enjoyable to listen to at times, but the explanation that tango gave--calling it a second-hand musical experience through the original composers-- seems to be spot on.

Sometimes I enjoy listening to kanno because it provides a sort of "where's Waldo" experience, but at times she does seem to insert things that seem original. This returns to what mike said l, though, that her individual voice has not developed enough to shine through the patchwork of copied bits of music. She definitely seems to be more original with her pop/jazz/rock stuff, some of which is devilishly catchy...

Thanks for all the comments; they are making me look at Kanno, and other composers as well, from a different angle.

Now, I do *not* wish to come across as a brown nose... and I sincerely hope that this statement won't be interpreted as such: As a community, we are (in no small way) blessed by the presence of the people here.

Furthermore, Mike's statement above (along with most of his statements, it must be said) is a splendid analysis of the artistry, and the individual uniqueness, that should exist in music. It's exactly that kind of standpoint, and those types of morals, that I love to hear coming from a composer... It's yet another modern travesty of justice that a man who understands the true nature and responsibilities of composition should not be in a position to unleash his skills upon mainstream Hollywood... and that he should receive condescending (but in this case, sadly truthful) praise from Hans Zimmer, of all people. Whilst I entirely agree with Hans' statement (assuming it is a verbatim quotation) it is in no small part down to him (and his company, and its virtually complete overhaul of the film scoring system) that composers like Mike don't enjoy successful mainstream careers.

NOW... Let's have some music. It's SAHASHI TIEM AGAIN! (Forgive me.)



TOSHIHIKO SAHASHI
Shikaotoko Aoniyoshi (2008 - TV Drama)
Studio Orchestra
conductor unknown (probably Koji Haishima)



Not my rip; no scans included - Track Titles in Japanese. Fraunhofer @ 320kbps

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/9DYSXGJ2/TS-SOAY.rar

Here's another one you've probably never heard of, and probably never would hear of, if it weren't for your good friend Tangotreats... who sits through hours and hours of J-Drama, and spends evening after evening slowly reading obscure Japanese websites, painstakingly transcribing Kanji into the online Romaji dictionary, just to find out where to find the good music. ;)

Shikaotoko Aoniyoshi ("The Fantastic Deer-Man") is a 2008 drama originally broadcast on Fuji TV. Stolen synopsis from the DramaWiki:

"Forced out of his research group after conflicts with his colleagues, Ogawa Takanobu takes up an offer to teach at a girls' high school in Nara. When taking roll call on the first day one of his students, Hotta Ito, sneaks into class late, claiming a bogus excuse--that she got a ticket after trying to park her deer in front of the train station. He makes immediate enemies with Hotta when he tells his superiors about her tardiness and attitude. In the following days, he begins to notice something unusual about Hotta, but he can't seem to put his finger on it.

With an odd group of colleagues who live together with him, Ogawa slowly accustoms to life in slow-paced Nara, where there seem to be as many deer as people. Walking through Nara Park one day, he begins to befriend the local deer population, feeding them rice wafers. After being confronted by a talking deer who commandeers him to prevent the destruction of Japan, he fails in his first mission and the talking deer exacts punishment--looking into the mirror the next day, he discovers he has turned into a deer from the shoulders up. Ogawa slowly begins to piece the puzzle together: the talking deer, the mysterious student, and a recent series of earthquakes that could spell doom for Japan... "

Sahashi provided a wonderful robust orchestral score - most of which wouldn't be out of place in Gundam Seed. If you like Sahashi in his upbeat, fully orchestral, optimistic melody mode, you'll certainly appreciate this. Swan No Baka was lazy and beautiful; Shikaotoko is brassy and lyrical. The third track is something of standout; in the show, it is played in full at the after the main titles of the first episode (I love Japan - a 2008 television drama opens with a four minute orchestral overture) and underscores a sort-of montage sequence of the simplest kind - a man misses his bus and faces a catalogue of disasters (traffic jams, demonstrations, pouring rain, missed trains, etc, etc) on his way to work. It's a wonderful little piece and Sahashi rolls out the whole orchestra - rolling timpani, trilling woodwind, strident brass, clashing timpani - in one of his best themes yet.

The album is somewhat bizzare in its sequencing, pretty much lumping all the strident, cheerful music at the beginning, and the more suspenseful cues at the end. If I'd been doing the sequencing, I'd probably have mixed it up a little bit - but that's what the randomise button is for, hey?

Have fun - more Sahashi coming up tomorrow, if Parcel Force (the British parcel post) get their act together at last...

Enjoy :)
TT

Whilst I entirely agree with Hans' statement (assuming it is a verbatim quotation)

Yes, it's verbatim. It's how he introduced me to his wife :) I like Hans a lot, actually, and he's been very cool and complimentary. Whatever one thinks of his music - and admittedly, we approach the art from very different directions (though have similar influences, actually!) - he's not a phony. He does exactly what he's comfortable and good at doing, and that has made him the current Alpha Dog of film scoring. 90% of ALL scores end up going through his compound, including no shortage of work you'd never believe would, which just quietly gets tended to behind the curtain. He presented me with two further truths: 1) The last thing the world needs is another Zimmer clone, so I should do what I do and 2) What I do isn't particularly in fashion right now. Hard to argue with that, but I decided long ago I would rather ride the bomb, Slim Pickens-style, than try to be something I wasn't. And so, let the sands fall and the pendulum swing. Stay tuned.


_Mike

P.S. Tango, I for one am quite convinced you're not a brown-noser, for reasons I hardly need enumerate :D It's all good.

(Apologies for the accidental second post.)

Tango, you are correct that I would never have found a score called "the fantastic deer man"
What an obscure title...I suppose thats what you are best at, introducing us to things we never would have heard :)

Nice guy or not, it sounds like a euphemism for "F**k you Mike!" - granted, I don't know Zimmer the Man, but I'm fairly well aquainted with Zimmer the businessman. He turned the art of film scoring into a production line, then steadily built up his empire to monopolise any "old school" musicians out of the business. Nice, real nice. Guys like Bruce Broughton and your good self sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for the phone to ring (it never does) - meanwhile, Ramin Djawadi farts out another yet derivative monstrosity into the great toilet bowl of Hollywood (all turds look alike) and makes a fortune.

I absolutely love that you're here, Mike... but at the same time I realise that the reason you're here and talking to the likes of us... is probably another symptom of the system. On that wonderful day when MV goes bust and Hollywood gets a badly needed shot of sanity fired up its arse, and guys like you get to write real music for films again... you'll probably not have time for your old friends at The Shrine, will you? ;)

but at the same time I realise that the reason you're here and talking to the likes of us... is probably another symptom of the system.

I honestly don't know what you mean, but it sounds ominous bordering on devious. The reason I'm here is because film score enthusiasts are a niche bunch, and this place represents as concentrated and articulate a sampling of that group as any. I feel it is my artistic duty to stay connected to, and remain in the line of fire of, people who at once represent both my potentially greatest fans and harshest critics.

While my wife and I enjoy vastly different levels of fame (I'm not the one in Maxim next month, thankfully), we both believe strongly in being accessible, and accountable for what we put into the world. That's why I'm here. You guys love film music, and I love writing it. I'm doing my best to write more, more.

Plus... I've been turned on to some great music!


_Mike

Blech, not this tired, ugly old discussion again. Granted, I'm glad it hasn't reanimated that old thread, but yikes. There's a dissapointing, all-too-revealing undertone of bitter envy towards her as a musical peer just emanating in nearly every post following her mention, and that's what raises my ire a bit.

Let me tell you a little story: I was just getting into anime when I was about, 14, rushing off the school bus to catch Toonami and staying up late on saturdays fot the Adult Swim block. Just like that, I was introduced to the sultry, satin-dress beauty and wry charm of Cowboy Bebop, and safe to say I wouldn't have been bolwed over so throughly if not for Kanno's magnificent score behind her grand, big band entrance. I didn't even realize her name until I noticed her on the credits of my next animated tryst, Wolf's Rain(AS is a fabulous matchmaker) and I began to hunt down more of her work. I was in love; this Yoko Kanno person sounded like nothing I'd ever heard before, and while this was before I payed much attention to soundtracks in general(one more thing to thank her for), I was utterly entranced by her sheer variety and emotion that she could arrouse with seemingly no effort. The style, the grace, the technicality, that trademark way she flitters over the fence of beauty and cool, simplicity and complexity, tender and saccherine. I had sold my mortgage to buy an entire hand's worth of diamond rings when a friend of a friend passed it along that she was cheating.

Yes, it hurt and yes, it was dissapointing to learn that quite a few of my favorite themes from various shows were based off of existing work. My concept of her boundless creativity and breadth was shaken, just being a poor soul adrift in a sea of excting new sounds, having spent most of my life primarily listening to the radio. But, growing up in a christian enviroment, I was no stranger to rattling challenges of conviction and belief, and how the strongest of people react and grow. So rather than loudly admonish her as a thierf and throw out all my cd's and mp3's, I hunted down a massive list of plagiarism examples(there's a link somewhere in that old thread), sat down and listened to every last one, comparing and contrasting. I came to the conclusion that some are plaigiarism, some are very egregrious, some are kindasorta similar, and most I'm proud to say were out and out objectively false, "reaching" at best, and were dismissed entirely. It was an enlightening experienced, introduced me to many artists I quite enjoy and actually solidified my love of Kanno, in a weird way. I realized that while she borrows many themes, listening to them both, I was able to eke out why I loved Kanno's in particular, how it's different and how she adds her own voice. The melody isn't hers, but the music and the soul is, and thus makes it hers. To use Titius as an example, I hear "Arrow of the Gods" and feel a drastic, frenzied photograph of bloody war. I hear Kanno's "X Top" and feel a seething, apocolyptic overture of the terror of bloody war. I hear "Titus' Vow" and feel a stomping ode to bitter, slithering betrayal. I hear "Blaquarion" and feel...well ok, "Titus' Vow" for like thirty seconds before into explodes into a regal, skin-peeling descent into slathering, albeit pink-up, insanity.(Also, keep in mind, though I needn't tell any of you this, that composers are writing for someone, following orders and meeting specifications. It's safe to assume Kawamori just really loves Godenthal; why else direct two anime(Aquarion and Macross Zero) with two completely different composers(Kanno and Haishima) that both reference Titus(Kanno's Blaquarion and Aquarius, Haishima's Sky Shine)?) I hear Patrick Doyle's "The Death of Falstaff" and feel a dignified, reverent requiem that sings not of grief but of respect. I hear Kanno's "Beyond Me" and feel an achingly tender admition of fragile love, right down to the crying strings. Similarly, I'm not sure I'd so much enjoy "Battersea" or Mycheal Danna's "Iena" if I had heard them first, because it's Kanno's unique soul and touch in "Cyberbird" and "Hold Your Life" that made me fall in love in the first place.

That's why I couldn't disagree more with backhanded, slightly condescending statements like "she's a musical infant yet to find her own voice" or her work is "musically hollow" or "wonderful patchwork medleys of film music" as it does her a tremendous disservice as an artist and musician, but I won't mention or argue that further. Subjectivity and all that, I can't force the emotion I hear and feel into anyone else. Though such sentiments are related, they aren't what I always find contention with when this topic comes up. I'm not even arguing that she doesn't plagiarise; she'll probably always be my favorite composer and musician and I still call her a "musical goddess" with a straight face, not least of which due to the rich library of indeed original and orchestral work she's penned but as much as she has her strengths, voice and trademarks, she has her flaws, just like Iwasaki's repetion and recent self-imitation, Hirano's uneveness, or how Oshima...just seems to have all her abundant talent drain away when working on game scores, oddly, and borrowing themes is Kanno's, and yes, I really do wish she would stop, if only to shut people up.

No, my issue is what I mentioned way at the top, as personofied with statements like


Give me Horner and his thefts any day over Kanno! Why? Because even when he does steal, you still hear the expression of a human emotive being behind it all.


Kanno, like her music, is purely conceptual, committee-driven, manufactured. It's a technique that obviously works because people love the music and she sells probably more CDs than anybody in her arena. But when I listen to music, I like to feel closer to the human being whose soul conjured it up. When you listen to anime music, video game music, film music, you're hearing AN INDIVIDUAL and their expression of emotion in a particular scene.

If you hire somebody and they give you a technically stunning pot-pourri of other people's ideas - valid ideas, ideas that work beautifully in context, but still other people's ideas... Why did you hire them?

Music becomes a workmanlike, faceless function of your anime, video game, or movie.

And the people who had the ideas initially - those ideas that make you cry when you hear Escaflowne's ending titles, or makes your heart pound when you hear Dance of Curse - THEY'RE the people you're getting to know. But you don't know it was them. That person has affected you emotionally and you're not even told who they are. Somebody else has manipulated your emotions using somebody else's face and they claim the credit for the affect their manipulation had on you.


Indeed that. Kanno is the ridiculously powerful orchestrating supercomputer that generates impressive music out of theory and melodic fragments stored in its database. Horner is a human being. (Most of the time... f$&*ing Avatar....)


This. This is barely even subjective. What are you basing those opinions on? How is X better than Kanno when they're both "guilty"? How is Kanno automatically an inhuman pop-music corporate vehicle? How are X's plagiarisms(and in Horner's case, self-cannabalism) more "emotive" and "human" than hers? You see, it's this painfully egregrious, contradictory, hypocritical, nonsensical, and, yes, snobbish double-standard that gets on my tits. If it's all subjective opinion, then you must realize how ridiculous and insecure it sounds. You're either giving X a free pass, or Kanno isn't getting a fair shake, and I wont denegrate anyone for having strong musical views, but considering most of you composers yourselves, I can't shake this uncomfortable undertone of bitter envy towards her as a fellow musician that I get from most of these posts. It's like watching an old self-assured pro who's toiled for years to fine-tune their voice and craft agree to listen to some hotshot young prodigy(though I understand Kanno's actually older than most of you, natch.) get blown away from the skill and soul of their music, and dejected and threatened with tail between their legs, they start meekly, "Well << >>;...it's technically brilliant, buuuuut...", only to stumble upon some artistic flaw or similarity in themes, knock on their heads and go "Hey, Ego! Guess what? We have a reason to dismiss them artistically after all! Whew, lucky us, huh?" It's not that I disagree with the opinion, however much I do, but due to how poorly defined they are, and how many free passes other artists who do the same thing are getting, the opinions feel insincere and passive-agrresive. stemming more from insecurity and jealousy than conviction, and to be blunt, it's eyeroll-inducing. I hope I'm just reading into things, and if so, by all means inform me otherwise. You guys upload wonderful music, have made much more intelligent posts than this, and write your own music well. Come on, you're better than this.

NatoaM, you appear to have traded one set of broad brushes for one of your own.

I can't speak to the insecurities of others, but if you'd like to fund some sort of compose-off, I'll happily step into the ring with her anytime. :)

In the end, I firmly believe we should listen to what moves us, and if that includes plagiarized work, you will likely have a larger playlist than those of us who can't hear past it. But it takes all kinds, no?


_Mike

Here's another one you've probably never heard of, and probably never would hear of, if it weren't for your good friend Tangotreats... who sits through hours and hours of J-Drama, and spends evening after evening slowly reading obscure Japanese websites, painstakingly transcribing Kanji into the online Romaji dictionary, just to find out where to find the good music

Yikes, closest thing to bureaucracy in the name of music I've ever heard. Well, your hours of work won't go unappreciated. Thanks very much for this. :) Always good for more Sahashi.

NatoaM, you appear to have traded one set of broad brushes for one of your own.

I can't speak to the insecurities of others, but if you'd like to fund some sort of compose-off, I'll happily step into the ring with her anytime. :)

In the end, I firmly believe we should listen to what moves us, and if that includes plagiarized work, you will likely have a larger playlist than those of us who can't hear past it. But it takes all kinds, no?


_Mike

Oh I've no doubt most of us could only dream of even meeting her in person, let alone working with or alongside her. I know Tango has...slightly less-than-virtuos fantasies revolving around the lass. ;)

Who knows? Keep it the good work and maybe you'll both get a dual-composing job for a film. A Gundam, mayhaps? You could try to gently steer her away from the copying, and any insight into her creative process would be snapped up around here like gems before brigands. Ah, to dream. <3

I honestly don't know what you mean, but it sounds ominous bordering on devious. The reason I'm here is because film score enthusiasts are a niche bunch, and this place represents as concentrated and articulate a sampling of that group as any. I feel it is my artistic duty to stay connected to, and remain in the line of fire of, people who at once represent both my potentially greatest fans and harshest critics.

NOthing devious intended... my apologies for leading you to believe that was what I meant.

It was a diplomatic way of saying "If you actually had some work to do, you wouldn't be able to spend as much time connecting with your fans."

As for the differing fame between yourself and your wife, well, it's all relative. At work, I boasted to my colleagues about how I had started exchanging emails with the new composer of Ultraman - how proud I was to be on first name terms with that man! I'm afraid nobody was particularly interested... nor were they familiar with your name. They were very familiar with your wife's name though. ;)

In the end, what matters is that you reach people who are interested in the things you do.

How do you chose between your career and your fans, if you found you didn't have time for both? One day, I'll email you and I'll get a message back from your secretary that says "Whilst Mr Verta appreciates all correspondences from his fans, he is unable to personally respond to the multitude of communications he receives on a daily basis. Be sure to catch Mike's next movie - Indiana Jones 14 - Raiders Of The Lost Marbles, out next Friday!" ;)

I know Tango has...slightly less-than-virtuos fantasies revolving around the lass. ;)

Ahem... ;)

..."Be sure to catch Mike's next movie - Indiana Jones 14 - Raiders Of The Lost Marbles, out next Friday!" ;)

From your lips...

From your lips...

I'm tired. It's the best I could do. ;)

I'd rather like to hear a Mike Verta Indy score, anyway. I don't think I'd go see that movie though...

NaotaM, my friend - we've talked about this enough years ago. I entirely respect that you love Kanno, and I'm sure everybody here does too. For what it's worth, we all think differently - the statements made about Kanno are only opinions, with which you're free to disagree as you usually do. Some people judge artistry according to a certain set of values - values that incorporate things that don't really cross over with your means of judging. The Kanno business is always a case of over-analysis... but these features of her music keep being discussed for a reason; people keep on thinking them. The discussion comes up from time to time and every time, the outcome is basically the same.

Peace to you all. I have a date with Kanno, Megumi Ohashi, and Hitomi Kuroishi... in my mind...

Ahem...

http://yokokanno.wikia.com/wiki/File:YokoKanno.jpg

Mmmm, Astronaut-y.


Sure that's a fetish somewhere.

Edit: Well look at that. I made a pun. ;p

Mmmm, Astronaut-y.

Ha! See, it's not just me making crummy jokes this evening! ;)

Lovely picture, anyway...

Ha! See, it's not just me making crummy jokes this evening! ;)

Lovely picture, anyway...

Best part is, I didn't even notice until after I had posted.

Tango, my point of contention isn't how people see Kanno. I merely wish to see the rationale behind why some consider X < Y, when they both plaigarise, let alone why Y gets singled out as less "human" than the other. It's differing opinion and thus extremely nebulous, yes, but as it's defined, or at least rationalized now, it's also a double-standard. That's my issue. But the point remains that it's wunderbar music and should be adored for it. <3

TazerMonkey - Thank you, you've summed-up almost exactly how I feel about Kanno! Her music has made me more acutely aware than ever of what it is I actually value and respond to. I totally respect the views of others on this, and the love in this thread, which I'm sure never descends into blind worship, but I must say, I actually find it all depressing in the extreme. The cynically sustained mystique that surrounds her simply can't disguise the "impressiveness" and "accomplishment" of her music as a sickening pejorative. The experience of listening to this stuff is like being told constantly, and with disturbing persuasion, that music is primarily the product of technicians, a process of calculation and assemblage; further, that all those lovely, breath-taking moments that have moved you are reproducible without artistic intent; that plagiarism is ultimately irrelevant and untraceable.

Give me Horner and his thefts any day over Kanno! Why? Because even when he does steal, you still hear the expression of a human emotive being behind it all.

And you, my friend, have also summed-up almost exactly how I feel about Kanno too. ;) So to avoid spending too much time consulting my french-english dictionary to churn out something 10 times less eloquent and accurate than your post, I'll just say that my opinion is mostly the same as yours.

Oh, and let's just be concise: Kanno = technical perfection + lack of personality (To sum up very briefly, and sorry if good old Naotam disagrees, but I'm entitled to my opinion)

Now, I'm surprised that nobody still haven't introduced in the recent discussions a theory rather famous on internet boards about her: Kanno is, a bit the way Zimmer is, more of a manager, a music director if you wish, than an actual composer - some people even called her a "brand". Of course she certainly does compose a bit (mainly pop, I guess, since she doesn't talk much about orchestral aspects in her interviews), but her main role is more to lead and manage a team, a crew of incredibly skilled - yet not very keen on ethics - "ghost composers", each mastering his own musical genre, hence explaining "her" incredible skills and productivity in many genres.

Of course I have no proof of this theory, it's just something I've seen several times on various places, and in fact it seems quite plausible to me.

Any toughts ?

Mmmm, Astronaut-y.


In space, no one can hear you scream... all night long. ;)

And while we're on the topic of romance:


NINO ROTA
Romeo & Juliet
City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra & Chorus
conducted by Nic Raine



LAME MP3 -V0/88.1 MB

As stated in my previous post, this is one of my favorite romantic scores. It's exquisitely lush, with the justifiably famous theme encapsulating the sweetness of romance, the playfulness and passion of youth, and the impending tragedy of forbidden love. I would venture to guess that this is the benchmark that John Williams was aiming for in composing "Across the Stars" for the Star Wars prequels, but even Williams couldn't match Rota's achievement here. (Considering their respective source materials for inspiration, Williams pulled off a miracle.)

Rota's original manuscripts were lost, so the music as presented on this album was reconstructed by Mike Townsend and was recorded with a larger ensemble than Rota used. I've not heard the original soundtrack album, but considering both the age of the film and that dialogue from the film was dubbed over at least some of the music on that release, I feel confident that this re-recording by the City of Prague Philharmonic is a superior listening experience for we score enthusiasts. Hopefully you will agree. :)

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0PGNQUAN/Rota - RJ.zip
pass: shrine

NOW... Let's have some music. It's SAHASHI TIEM AGAIN! (Forgive me.)



TOSHIHIKO SAHASHI
Shikaotoko Aoniyoshi (2008 - TV Drama)
Studio Orchestra
conductor unknown (probably Koji Haishima)

Just wonderful. In fact I had the luck to grab this one long ago thanks to YOUR advices, otherwise I'm not quite sure I would have had the mere idea of looking for it. Thanks, mate !



I honestly don't know what you mean, but it sounds ominous bordering on devious. The reason I'm here is because film score enthusiasts are a niche bunch, and this place represents as concentrated and articulate a sampling of that group as any. I feel it is my artistic duty to stay connected to, and remain in the line of fire of, people who at once represent both my potentially greatest fans and harshest critics.

Phew, your answer is reassuring to me. And I'm glad that you're someone accessible and in contact with his fans. It sometimes happened that, as Tango said (hence I suppose he experimented the same thing ;)), I took some time writing some sincere and admirative comments to composers I utterly liked, and they didn't even bothered answering personally, I only received some kind of pre-typed reply signed by an agent or someone.

I sincerely believe - or hope - that you don't look down on us, and have found here some real internet mates, sharing similar musical tastes and opinions.

The title of this thread is very misleading.

Now, I'm surprised that nobody still haven't introduced in the recent discussions a theory rather famous on internet boards about her: Kanno is, a bit the way Zimmer is, more of a manager, a music director if you wish, than an actual composer - some people even called her a "brand". Of course she certainly does compose a bit (mainly pop, I guess, since she doesn't talk much about orchestral aspects in her interviews), but her main role is more to lead and manage a team, a crew of incredibly skilled - yet not very keen on ethics - "ghost composers", each mastering his own musical genre, hence explaining "her" incredible skills and productivity in many genres.

Hmm, I've heard this before a few times and always threw it out as cynical nonsense. Theories are typically at least partially based or inspired by some kind of observable evidence, and there's something about the whole "Oh, so thaaaaat's why she's so good at everything. Psh, of course." tone of it that, again, sends an unfortunate message about whoever it was who came up with it. Still, though I severely doubt it, it could be possible, and I sometimes think such thoughts myself(Was Kawamori always a tree-humping loony and Macross Plus and DYRL's success all thanks to Watanabe and Ishiguro, or was it just an unfortunate puff of the Greenpeace pipe that brought him down?), so not much room to talk, I suppose.

Though I do despise just how often I see this theory being boldfacedly posited as fact. On Kanno's tvtropes page, for one particularly depressing/insulting example, but eh, where there are wiki's, there will be idiots. Que sera sera.

I think most people are looking at the Seatbelts when they think of this theory, except two things. 1. The Seatbelts were mostly American-based jazz musicians whom she hasn't worked with since save for that new Cowboy Bebop game, and that was like what, three new tracks? 2. Many, many composers frequently work with the same few musicians, orchestras, etc. They hire and keep on who they like and who they know can get the job done. It's why people's music sounds so similar over the years; it's not just the writing. Iwasaki, for example, almost always commisions the Jun Takeochi string group. Even if the theorizers mean the small group Kanno frequently employs for instruments, I really still doubt that. Tsuneo Imahori, amazing composer in his own right, almost always collaborates with Kanno as a guitarist and his music, even the rock themes, couldn't be more dissimilar to hers. Same with Hajime Mizoguchi. It's sort of an interesting idea, but it's not very well-supported or even convincing. It's kinda just silly, but that's how I see it.

I think my statement went somewhat out of hand... All I intended was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact that Mike has too much time on his hands... and now I fear that I've either offended or misrepresented him. This was not intended at all. As previously indicated, I was simply working with the thought that our good fortune (having Mike with us at the forum) may in a strange sort of way be courtesy of the fact that he's not in mainstream vogue.

As usual I've put my foot in it. I apologise.


It sometimes happened that, as Tango said (hence I suppose he experimented the same thing ), I took some time writing some sincere and admirative comments to composers I utterly liked, and they didn't even bothered answering personally, I only received some kind of pre-typed reply signed by an agent or someone.

For what it's worth, I've done this, with a mixture of results. The most frequent result is, sadly, nothing at all - the aforementioned "Thanks for writing! Yours Sincerely, Somebody's Personal Assistant". I always liked to think that perhaps I could make comments maybe a cut above your average fan letter... that somehow that would make me more likely to receive a reaction. Perhaps this thought is arrogant, but I like to think that even the busiest person can spare a few seconds out of his life to acknowledge their fans. (Some of my experiences were overwhelmingly positive; some were downright unpleasent, and some were neither.)

One composer (who shall remain nameless) spends a great deal of time hanging around messageboards and clearly has time to post in them regularly. He showed up here and I defended his honour against an onslaught of various sorts of abuse; I followed it up with a long, heartfelt letter with non-sychophantic praise and artistic analysis in equal measure. This gentleman didn't even do me the courtesy of writing back with "Thanks for your message - I'm really busy though, but I appreciate your letter!"

Six months passed and when he was quizzed, all I received was a terse bit of attitude, along the lines of "I'm a busy guy - Too long; didn't read." For the record, this gentleman still spies on the forum from time to time, for no reason other than to make sure nobody is pirating his music.

That's not a case of too busy, or anything at all honourable. IMHO that's simply caused by a personality flaw in the composer... Sometimes it's hard to acknowledge that these names we admire so much... represent people with human weaknesses, and occasional grumpy moods. Still more hard to acknowledge would be the simple fact that the composer you love so much... is just an arsehole. (Just as plausible as him turning out to be a thoroughly nice guy with whom you become good friends.)

I think it's a bit of a fantasy for most of us here - to be able to actually talk to our musical heroes. Some heroes are more conducive to this than others. John Barry won't even sign autographs, but Basil Poledouris on a good day may have invited you to his house for dinner. Jerry Goldsmith probably would've written back - "Get a life, for f**k's sake!" and so on. Obviously for composers as fantastically successful as the A-listers, they're not really going to have time to hobnob with their fans.

If I wrote a letter to Zimmer saying "Dear Hans, you completely screwed up the genre of symphonic film music. I hate you." I really wouldn't expect any kind of response - except for perhaps a lawsuit from his lawyers.

By sheer comparison, I post a message on this very thread talking about a Mike Verta score I enjoyed... and then three days later he bloody well shows up to say hello! (I wonder if he'd have joined if I said Forbidden Warrior was a piece of crap and I hated it?) ;)

It all raises an interesting discussion subject which I acknowledge is once again causing this thread to veer further off topic than ever before... courtesy of me for the umpteenth time.

So - I'm sorry - for going off topic, and for offending if I have done so. As ever, I intend nothing but friendship and good-natured banter - although I seem to epically misjudge on occasions...

Good night - I'm off to bed.

TT

I should peruse this thread more often. It's fun, and you never who will show up.

Hmm, I've heard this before a few times and always threw it out as cynical nonsense. Theories are typically at least partially based or inspired by some kind of observable evidence, and there's something about the whole "Oh, so thaaaaat's why she's so good at everything. Psh, of course." tone of it that, again, sends an unfortunate message about whoever it was who came up with it. Still, though I severely doubt it, it could be possible, and I sometimes think such thoughts myself(Was Kawamori always a tree-humping loony and Macross Plus and DYRL's success all thanks to Watanabe and Ishiguro, or was it just an unfortunate puff of the Greenpeace pipe that brought him down?), so not much room to talk, I suppose.

Though I do despise just how often I see this theory being boldfacedly posited as fact. On Kanno's tvtropes page, for one particularly depressing/insulting example, but eh, where there are wiki's, there will be idiots. Que sera sera.

I have some comments, but tomorrow, since it's 2 am here, and I need some sleep. ;)



Tango: Good night, mate. Sleep well - you utterly deserved it, after your incredible activity here.




In space, no one can hear you scream... all night long. ;)

And while we're on the topic of romance:


NINO ROTA
Romeo & Juliet
City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra & Chorus
conducted by Nic Raine

Wow, this looks really good. Thanks a lot, TazerMonkey. And you also got a special praise for the nice presentation and the -V0 encoding.

Thumbs up !



The title of this thread is very misleading.

Sometimes, when one's message is not clear enough to be understood, one should just not send a message.

Sometimes, when one's message is not clear enough to be understood, one should just not send a message.

I propose a thread title change.

"THE AWESOME ORCHESTRAL MUSIC EMPORIUM"

"TANGO'S UNOFFICIAL MUSIC DUMP PLACE (ALSO OPEN TO OTHERS AT HIS OWN BLESSING)"

"THE ORCHESTRAL NINJA DOJO"

I propose a thread title change.

"THE AWESOME ORCHESTRAL MUSIC EMPORIUM"

"TANGO'S UNOFFICIAL MUSIC DUMP PLACE (ALSO OPEN TO OTHERS AT HIS OWN BLESSING)"

"THE ORCHESTRAL NINJA DOJO"

"The thread for the people who were part of the big orchestral action music thread, but that name doesn't really fit anymore"

just doesn't have a great ring to it ;)


Phew there was a lot of activity I missed today, not really sure what to comment on first. There was alot of reading material.
Most things I would have said have already been stated by someone (whether its mike, tango, or anyone else) so I won't reiterate those statements.

One thing i would like to say though is something that has been said before, but its worth repeating.
I love the amount of class most this thread has. The majority of people who talk here are just good blokes all around...not saying that we are perfect in any way and we certainly do get carried away from time to time (after all we are pretty passionate people). But what I love so much is that when that happens, people (such as our good friend tango) realize they have put their foot in their mouth and and don't turn it into an argument but instead rewords, explains, and apologizes for it. That is something pretty rare on the internet, where opinions often turn into petty bickering, insults, and flame wars.

"THE ORCHESTRAL NINJA DOJO"

Music note-shaped shuriken. Katana sheathed in clarinets. Kanno Goldsmith Hirano Style: Ultimate Techniques. DO IT.

Music note-shaped shuriken. Katana sheathed in clarinets. Kanno Goldsmith Hirano Style: Ultimate Techniques. DO IT.

The only possible counterattack.

(I wonder if he'd have joined if I said Forbidden Warrior was a piece of crap and I hated it?) ;)

Yes. But I'd have remained anonymous longer to allow for more discourse and criticism, which can halt in the presence of the composer.

_Mike

One composer (who shall remain nameless) spends a great deal of time hanging around messageboards and clearly has time to post in them regularly. He showed up here and I defended his honour against an onslaught of various sorts of abuse; I followed it up with a long, heartfelt letter with non-sychophantic praise and artistic analysis in equal measure. This gentleman didn't even do me the courtesy of writing back with "Thanks for your message - I'm really busy though, but I appreciate your letter!"

Six months passed and when he was quizzed, all I received was a terse bit of attitude, along the lines of "I'm a busy guy - Too long; didn't read." For the record, this gentleman still spies on the forum from time to time, for no reason other than to make sure nobody is pirating his music.

That's not a case of too busy, or anything at all honourable. IMHO that's simply caused by a personality flaw in the composer... Sometimes it's hard to acknowledge that these names we admire so much... represent people with human weaknesses, and occasional grumpy moods. Still more hard to acknowledge would be the simple fact that the composer you love so much... is just an arsehole. (Just as plausible as him turning out to be a thoroughly nice guy with whom you become good friends.)

I think it's a bit of a fantasy for most of us here - to be able to actually talk to our musical heroes. Some heroes are more conducive to this than others. John Barry won't even sign autographs, but Basil Poledouris on a good day may have invited you to his house for dinner. Jerry Goldsmith probably would've written back - "Get a life, for f**k's sake!" and so on. Obviously for composers as fantastically successful as the A-listers, they're not really going to have time to hobnob with their fans.

I would like to make some commentary, of sorts, on this type of thing. Like you mentioned Tango, the personality of those people whom we love is just as likely to be a son of a bitch as he is a good old chap. The warmth of a person rarely has the capacity to influence their talent, and often we find the meaner the man the greater the product he puts out! Or at the very least that is the stereotype of "genius" that we have in our minds.

Recently, amongst the Sci-Fi/Fantasy community, there has been a great deal of furious debate on the merits of fan-fiction, if it tramples over copyright, if it is immoral or not, etc. One author, whom I greatly respect is George R. R. Martin, is of the opinion that is not only immoral and illegal, but it is negative towards a would be author's development.

I read a blogpost that pretty much destroyed one of Martin's arguments for his cause. The following comments to that post had contained some stuff along the lines of "Since Martin hates fanfics, I'm not going to read his stuff!". As ludicrous, ridiculous, and juvenile as those comments were, it got me thinking.

If there is a personality flaw within the artist, do we no longer take part in their work? Should that have a say in the matter? If the man is a Nazi, but produces some of the most thrilling fiction that in no way touches upon the matter of racism or race superiority, should I stop reading his stories? If a computer company discriminates against a minority, should I stop buying their award winning computers? Do I stop supporting Bank of America for their immoral business practices in third world countries?

Look at the Nameless Composer. He produces thrilling, fantastic, pieces of music. I got my hands on XXXXX 2, and I loved every bit of it. I wish him the best of success because he does great stuff. But he does seem to show a tad bit of immaturity when it comes to pirating. Remember that G.I. Joe scandal, last summer? How those CD files weren't lossless? Well, the news came to some forum I lurk and he posts on a day before it's release date. The Nameless Composer jumped to the conclusion that it was pirates complaining, and went on to bash them.

It was only when respected members of said forum informed him that it they had the same problem, that they got their CDs early, that he ceased.

Do we stop listening to his music, because he has a personality flaw? If Verta was a jerk instead of a great guy, would that make his recent Ultraman score less of a great piece of neo-classical music? No, of course not.

The conclusion I have come to is that unless the people in question are immoral, such as they are the cause of poverty or some kind of horrible social issue, then I would wager that nothing on their part beyond the quality of their works should prevent you from enjoying their products. To do otherwise is more than just naive.

From what I understand, Koichi Sugiyama is the WWII/Nanking equivalent of a Holocaust denier, and I still love his ravishing Dragon Quest suites, so there ya go. You've pretty much said it already, but unless someone's a murderer or something, or a person's personality flaw affects their music in some way, it's important to be able to appreciate the creative work on at least some level apart from the creator.

If I manage to do anything of lasting note, nobody will give a crap what kind of person I was once I'm dead. Did Beethoven hold open the door for people? Did Mozart tip well? Who gives a shit, really?

But while I'm alive, I will continue to cultivate humility and respect for others. Life isn't a popularity contest; but it kind of is. My experience to date with great artists is they tend to garner reputations as standoffish or removed, unless they actually respect you in which case they tend to be accessible and personable. The best artists I know are also secure in their abilities and status and don't have to preemptively put people on the defensive in order to protect their false exteriors from scrutiny. It's true that many people don't actually want their idols or heroes to be "just like everyone else"; they like to keep them on pedestals, even modest ones. But nobody likes to be condescended to, or treated as less-than. It takes energy sometimes to reset and find fresh energy for people, but if you spend any time remembering your good fortune, there is fuel aplenty for that.

Bottom line: I'm not with artists who can't summon the basics of decorum for other people, fans or not, and I wouldn't blame people for having their tastes soured for the music.


_Mike

Whole lot of bitching going on here.

Don't like some music/a composer? Don't listen.

And don't begrudge those who have different tastes/views of the music than you do.

Seriously the way some people are talking, it's like the composes somehow owed them something. And somehow the composes abandoned them and now they feel angry and hurt? Not sure I blame the composers for not replying to pages worth of 'omg I love you' from some crazy fan who seems a little *too* appreciative and attached...

Now on with the music.

EDIT: Also, please don't follow this up with justifications for why you're responding in such a way or why you're very hurt that X composer doesn't return your love... Best just to drop it.

EDIT2: Also, a busy composer not answering fanwank mail doesn't exactly make them a jerk. I'd say a bigger personality flaw is judging the whole of someone based on one little behaviour (or rather, lack of behaviour; responding to a long, long letter from a crazy fan - though you *might* not be crazy, it might sure seem like it to the composer getting the letter...)

I kind of agree with "captainpumpkin", even if he is a bit forward.

It's naive to expect a composer to respond to a fan letter. Not only do these people have to work on something as daunting as scoring a movie, but they also have their own lives and relationships to be concerned with. I also don't think that someone who goes into a field like this expects to be a celebrity or rock star, so maybe it's overwhelming for them to find that they have fans writing them letters and asking for autographs.

So, getting rebuffed/ignored by your idol doesn't mean he's an jerk. Imagine being in his shoes, being approached by random people who expect you to write them or have a conversation with them. While you might appreciate their advocacy of your music, fan stuff would eat into time for your next job or for your friends and family.

On the other hand, guys like Mr. Nameless Composer are certainly jerks.

I don't think anyone was trying to say that composers owe them something. I just think that when you find out that that a composer like Christopher Tin (Civ IV) or Mike are just all around good people, it adds a whole new level of enjoyment to the music. If they were jerks would I still like their music, yes. But there is something great about a wonderful human being with talent that you can enjoy.


And a little reminder to everyone, as this talk starts to get heated. Word choice is an amazing thing. I can't help reading some posts and just going they have some point, but its just going to be rebutted because of a few immature lines. Just a few little word changes may make the difference between being ignored and making your point.

I don't think anyone was trying to say that composers owe them something. I just think that when you find out that that a composer like Christopher Tin (Civ IV) or Mike are just all around good people, it adds a whole new level of enjoyment to the music. If they were jerks would I still like their music, yes. But there is something great about a wonderful human being with talent that you can enjoy.

I don't think whether someone is nice or a jerk adds or detracts from the music at all. Koichi Sugiyama, as someone pointed out, is a brainwashed nationalist, but "Dragon Quest VIII" isn't any less beautiful. Then you have people who are nice but not very talented. (Can't think of any to name.)

Is it cool when a guy like Mike comes here and chats with the forum goers? Of course. But that doesn't add a whole new level to the music; it adds a whole new level to the discussion. The music remains what it is. I listen to most of my music library without any measure of who the composer is as a person, and I don't need to know. I'm interested in their music, not their social skills.

That might sound harsh, but it's one of the truths of appreciating or critiquing art and entertainment.

I kind of agree with "captainpumpkin", even if he is a bit forward.

It's naive to expect a composer to respond to a fan letter. Not only do these people have to work on something as daunting as scoring a movie, but they also have their own lives and relationships to be concerned with. I also don't think that someone who goes into a field like this expects to be a celebrity or rock star, so maybe it's overwhelming for them to find that they have fans writing them letters and asking for autographs.

So, getting rebuffed/ignored by your idol doesn't mean he's an jerk. Imagine being in his shoes, being approached by random people who expect you to write them or have a conversation with them. While you might appreciate their advocacy of your music, fan stuff would eat into time for your next job or for your friends and family.

On the other hand, guys like Mr. Nameless Composer are certainly jerks.

I agree with this.

And my post was blunt, yes, but accurate.

Bottom line is, respect others' tastes, don't be too quick to judge, and don't feel too hurt if your idols don't reciprocate your respect (although I can see how that would be a bit hurtful to some, but have to keep in mind your idol's perspective).

Thanks for Romeo & Juliet and this deer ost. I should be posting The Alamo 3cd tomorrow in mp3.

That might sound harsh, but it's one of the truths of appreciating or critiquing art and entertainment.

It's not harsh, but it's also not a universal truth. Some people appreciate and indulge in the relationship between the creator and the work, and they're not immune to deficiencies in either. That's as "human nature" a dynamic as any - especially for those of us who truly believe the deepest parts of ourselves are embodied in the music. I don't want people to have to separate the two, since they're both in there.


_Mike

Whole lot of bitching going on here.

Don't like some music/a composer? Don't listen.

And don't begrudge those who have different tastes/views of the music than you do.



I don't really think there is any begrudging going on here. What I see going on in this thread is honest, frank discussion on what makes music great, and sharing of music we have found to be so. I could just post things and not say a damn thing about them, or I could listen to composers that I think are great and not ponder the things I love about them, but that is a large part of why this forum is interesting and certainly some part of why I find music to be such a joy. I enjoy discussing music, sharing music, and being able to view others' points of view on the subject.

There is discussion, and there is vicious argument. I strongly believe that we almost always enjoy the former here in this thread.

Edit: Thanks a bunch for Blackford, Deer Man, and Romeo and Juliet!! I haven't had a chance to listen to any of the three with the exception of a couple tracks from Romeo and Juliet, but I'll post comment when I do (possibly months in the future)

Hmm, I've heard this before a few times and always threw it out as cynical nonsense. Theories are typically at least partially based or inspired by some kind of observable evidence, and there's something about the whole "Oh, so thaaaaat's why she's so good at everything. Psh, of course." tone of it that, again, sends an unfortunate message about whoever it was who came up with it.

You fool, can't you see it's a conspiracy? Or have they gotten to you too?

It's not harsh, but it's also not a universal truth. Some people appreciate and indulge in the relationship between the creator and the work, and they're not immune to deficiencies in either. That's as "human nature" a dynamic as any - especially for those of us who truly believe the deepest parts of ourselves are embodied in the music. I don't want people to have to separate the two, since they're both in there.

That's a fair point. I personally prefer to let art or entertainment speak for itself, and by extension the creator.

I agree with those saying that the relationship between artist and audience can be important in interpreting the art. Consider the reputation of a band like, say, Radiohead (indulge me for a second), who many consider whiny, self-centered, needlessly abstract, and morbid--based on the behavior of Thom Yorke in interviews. Plenty of people write off the entire catalog of this band with statements like, "I'll listen to them if I want to slit my wrists." But, of course, if you listen to their music you'll find much hope and redemption and triumph and humanity, besides constant experimentation. This suggests that the perception of an artist can be very powerful.

I also agree that throughout most of our days we walk around with 6,000 songs on our iPods and we couldn't care less who wrote the songs, what they were thinking about, what they meant, what was going on with them, or what they're like as humans. The reason is that our personal cache of meaning for a piece of art is as important (if not more important) than all of those other factors. Radiohead is maybe a bad example, then, because they're more visible in the media than most others.

I guess I'm saying that the human behind the art is important and the artist's sensibility should be felt (maybe like Mike was saying). But that presence doesn't have to result in conscious curiosity about the creator. I can name five authors off the top of my head who I've worked for, studied with, or just bought a few drinks who have proven themselves to be self-important assholes (to put it nicely). But I still admire their work because their affection for the characters, deep understanding of human motivation, felicity of language, complexity of emotion, and interesting use of ambiguity all make me feel something. This seems to be true of my experience of music, too--that the presence of technical skill, intention, complexity, and ambiguity all allow this art form to be vital, too, without me knowing much about the author.

Ask me why I like Song X and I'm much more likely to say it reminds me of when Nana died than I am to say because the composer lent me a CD he thought I'd like. But I probably feel that emotion that connects me to Nana (geez, this is a stupid example :D) because the composer apprehended sadness in a way that matches my own sensibility. So maybe it's the sensibility, but not the personality that matters. Does that make sense to anyone?

Blech
NaotaM - since you quoted me as an example of a particular kind of repellent viewpoint, I feel I should answer.

I began my comment by emphasising this is simply how I feel, and that I respect the views of others.

I don't know what on earth you mean by "barely even subjective". Aside from personal, subjective response, tempered with thought and reflection, what other options do we have?? I love how subjectivity is always fine and dandy when it supplies a (redundant) affirmation of the popular, yet when it's perceived as a negative it suddenly becomes unreasonable or unallowable.

Why you had to wheel out "snobbish" I don't know. This seems to be the current all-purpose technique to invalidate any opinion which doesn't sit within the status quo. It's obvious that people in this thread are extremely open-minded and eclectic in their musical tastes. Nothing in my post or any of the others indicates snobbery and unfair dismissal due to preconceived prejudice or notions of prestige.

To be clear about Horner - he's miles away from being one of my favourites, and I do get put off massively by his pilfering. This is the thing - it's an emotional reaction, a gut feeling, not so much a 'moral' one for me (or at least, it only becomes that after the fact). I appreciate that preferring Horner to Kanno for what I hear as a more personal voice is dodgy, and difficult to justify if you disagree, so point taken. No 'free pass' from me. They have both sadly marked themselves out (Kanno with far greater frequency) as profligate plagiarists.

Fans will always claim "that doesn't bloody matter!!" (nothing matters except fandom) in the face of anything. Does that mean we have to go down the route of smothering alternate views, and ignoring legitimate values? I hope not.

I don't accuse you of this, however, and I'm probably going off on one a bit ;) I loved your description of the seeming effortlessness of Kanno's music and how it passes between styles and moods - this makes me want to listen to some more :) 'Perfect in spite of her imperfections' is an argument I'm very sympathetic to - just not in this case.

I'd also like to point out that I'm not a composer of any kind! And speaking briefly for those who do compose: if they were threatened by talent, virtuosity and genius, I don't think you'd see so much passionate advocacy of such a range of miraculous composers here (more perhaps than in any other area of the forum). If this kind of resentful ego was a barrier to musical appreciation, it would be a non-starter. I'd suggest this is your own gloss on the situation.


Whole lot of bitching going on here..
Oh God! Have the censorship committee got a new rep?


That might sound harsh, but it's one of the truths of appreciating or critiquing art and entertainment.

Not harsh at all. It's worth noting though that this has broadened out significantly from what Tango was originally saying. Almost a completely different topic!

Does it need to be said that many of the finest artists were bitter, reclusive, social-liabilities? Some held political views that would be repugnant today. Some were rude, selfish, racist, abusive, womanising twats, and more. 'Likability' isn't important at all in the bigger picture of art. If the Romantics are to be believed, then the darker elements - the anger, guilt, alienation, the punishing introspection, the raging passion - can all be drawn on as a great enriching source. If Freud is to believed.. well, let's not go there ;)

For some reason, I find it comforting that terrible human beings (Richard Wagner, Koichi Sugiyama, etc.) can write great music. It kind of lends fuel to the notion that no matter how bad people are, there's a little part of themselves that's good.

Hmm..."Good" is a moral category, though. Maybe they just understand what it feels like to ____ and can translate that emotion (or bundle of emotions) into music.

.. it's the sensibility, but not the personality that matters.
What a perfectly Wildean way of putting it! Thank you - I think I agree :D I'm holding back on some of this, because it's too early and frankly do we need another can of worms?! ;)

Holy Mother of God! When I'm sleeping some crazy things going on here:). I've got theory about that... you are all VAMPIRES who post only during MY night. Yes, my night, cause there's a chance that in your place - wherever it is - is day. So to those who write during day - you are not vampires;). End of off-topic.

I know that subject already changed, but wanna say something about Kanno (even if everything what I can say 'bout her was said here already and better;)). I kinda like her music (my favourite from her would be Macross Plus), I like the way she handles orchestra, I like her vocal works with Gabriela Robin (so, is she Kanno or not?) or Graziano, also I like her themes, melodies. They are just pleasent to ear. Hate her for mixing 10 kinds of music on one album (her albums are way too eclectic). Also, I really believe in the conspiracy theory about her being a brand, with bunch of ghoswriters. One person can't steal that much. Great theft need great team, it's not job for one. So, I dislike Kanno for stealing, but I kinda love her for the style she do this;).

And completely different subject, does anyone using firefox have problem with uploadmirrors? It works for me on IE, but firefox can't handle it...

So to those who write during day - you are not vampires;). End of off-topic.

What about people like me who seem to post at all times of the day ;)



And completely different subject, does anyone using firefox have problem with uploadmirrors? It works for me on IE, but firefox can't handle it...

It works fine with me and i use firefox

Then U are a vampire who travels through time and space, just to find lovely and darkened place. Or you are just zombie xD.

Hi everyone, seems like I missed a great discussion while I was offline.
Nevertheless here is the score I promised to upload, took far longer than expected but here it is:





Download CD1 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/kzmzi2jzxji/KameoTCRCD1.7z)

Download CD2 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/om5dumjmjgz/KameoTCRCD2.7z)

Download CD3 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/mtznolcdyfm/KameoTCRCD3.7z)


Now here's a ravishing score for a fantasy game that easily stands out among all the other efforts in this genre.
In fact it is, at least in my opinion, only beaten by the score for the PS2 Game "Primal" and James Hannigan's Potter Scores.
However, the title "The Complete Recordings" might be misleading as it does not only contain music recorded with the Orchestra
but also music recorded in Steve Burke's Studio.

This isn't a problem at all since I find the tracks without the live orchestra quite charming and enchanting, they are a really
beautiful addition to the score and since most of the tracks are still orchestrated, this shouldn't bother anyone.
The music itself is quite what you would expect when listening to a fantasy score,
this one is escpecially heavy on vocals and tribal drums, but at the same time it is rather unique.
There is a certain "piratey" feel to it all, as Steve Burke himself quoted, and it even gives you an idea what Pirates of the Caribbean would have sounded like if it was done by him.

I'm not excactly a fan of The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra, I prefer Los Angeles or London, but they delivered a very good peformance here.
The only complain I have with the score is that some of the tracks recorded in the studio would have sounded so much better with a live orchestra and
I can't shake off the feeling that Steve Burke intended to orchestrate everything but was hindered by production costs.
There is also some bittersweetness when I listen to it since Rare is slowly declining since they were bought by Microsoft and now
all future plans for a Kameo 2 were cancelled and Steve Burke left the Studio for good.
He did a great job on this one, his score even won some prices and awards, so it's really sad to know that he had to leave the studio.
Nonetheless, I hope you enjoy it all, it is really special.

There seems to be a problem with Track 30 of CD2 so I've reuploaded it. Hymn for Kameo (Alternate).mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/tzotb5bhmjd/30. Hymn for Kameo (Alternate).mp3)


Info:

Special vocal performances by Aisling Duddy and Eveline Novakovic

Orchestra and Choir conducted by Nic Raine

Recorded and mixed by Jan Holzner

All Additional Music composed and produced by Steve Burke at Rare Studios


Quality: MP3 320 kb/s VBO

Tracks: 90

Duration: ca. 200min

Some Highlights of the Score:

- CD1 Hero's Theme (Six french horns instead of four)
- CD1 Castle Fight
- CD1 Fairy Castle
- CD1 Burned Earth
- CD1 Kameo's Quest
- CD2 Ice Mountain Onslaught
- CD2 Thorn's Pass ("Piratey")
- CD2 Forest Glade
- CD2 Camp
- CD2 Drok's Theme
- CD3 The Legend Unfolds
- CD3 The Badlands
- CD3 Final Showdown
- CD3 Ortho's Theme
- CD3 Danger in the Sky

I never thought I'd see the day a complete Kameo score shows up — THANK you very much, it's a wonderful score. Can't wait to hear more of it :D

EDIT: Hmmm disk two is giving me extraction errors...the last track and the cover is where the damage seems to lie. I tried it with StuffIt and EZ 7Zip and had the same issue with both — anyone else having problems with that one or just me?

Hmm I've tested the link and it seems to work, although I also got the error you described I could still listen to every track without any problems

Alrighty, I was just afraid there was damage to the last track since it was mentioned as part of the error. :)

klnerfan, I need to give you some kind of gratitude here. The soundtrack for Kameo is amongst my most favorite orchestral scores in my collection. Anyone that takes the look at my last.fm would know it is some of my most played albums.

When I saw you had a complete recording, I was absolutely ecstatic. I could not have been more excited. I loved every melody, every note of chorus in the original. With this expansion I was only expecting to see more of the same. I did not expect to see pieces of music I had never heard before. I am barely onto the first disc, but the amount of phenomenal music that did not make it onto the soundtrack pressing is criminal. I am loving Theena's Lulaby; I loved every note, I loved the peaceful whimsical nature of it.

In conclusion, thanks so much for getting this out to us. I don't know how you had managed to get your hands on it, but I am sure it must have been a great deal of hard work. Thanks again!

[Apologies in advance to non-UK forumites for the extreme randomness and naval-gazing of this post]

After hearing the jingles used for the BBC's recent election coverage, I'm wondering if orchestral fanfares are back on the agenda.. If so, it's not before time! David Lowe's bleepy trance has long had its day.

Here's two versions of the Election 2010 theme composed by Richard Blair-Oliphant ripped to the best of my ability:


http://www.multiupload.com/QZKQYHZI81

The wider relevance of this is that it may offer another small glimmer of hope in our ongoing speculations about an orchestral renaissance. Or have I run away with myself? ;)

I also read somewhere that George Fenton is keen to record a disc of his music for BBC News from the 80s and 90s. I don't blame him - it's spectacular catchy stuff, and I'm sure there would be enough of a hardcore group of saddos to make it a success. This would surely feature developments/suites. I'm salivating at the prospect.

Back to Blair-Oliphant, there's also a sample on this teaser page (http://www.richardblairoliphant.com) for his site.

same error here...
maybe kinerfan can upload the error track 30 from CD2 again?
Thanks - I love this score

I'm on it ;) .... and DONE

Doublehex: Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Wait until you get to CD3 for the Grand Finale.
But I have to say that the track "Fairy Castle" from CD1 is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I have heard in recent time.

The Alamo 3cd has been posted elsewhere on the forum.

doobalhax pointed me towards the Kameo complete recordings and after getting extremely furious with Jdownloader's incessant "plugin out of date" errors with mediafire I just manually queued it up the old fashioned way.

I discovered the original OST by accident some years ago, and then recently finally found the gamerip, which had a pleasant amount of new stuff in it. It is definitely amongst my top 5 soundtracks. I heavily used it in many mod projects and compilations in the past. I had always wondered if there was more of this kind of stuff out there.

I can already tell from the first few tracks that this is the completion to the great hunt at long last. I thank thee deeply for your contribution.

So I came in here thinking "kameo soundtrack never excited me when I listened to it the last time" then he says "well this is one of my favorites" and I notice its performed by full orchestra and choir conducted by Nic Raine. I pulled out the OST I downloaded in 2005 from gamemp3s when it was first released and its amazing. Only in this thread would I be given a reminder to listen to something so lovely. Thanks so much for posting the 3disc version Kinerfan.

Please any chance to upload the soundtrack of film (A Farewell To Arms) 1957 for (Mario Nascimbene) ...
Any help is appreciated ....

JUST SMILE WITH MIRAI ORANGE!


TOSHIHIKO SAHASHI
Element Hunters (Original Soundtrack Vol. 2) 2010
AKA Elementhunters, Eremento Hanta, エレメントハンタ




My Rip - LAME 3.98.4 - Scans included and track titles in English

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1W2HVZYJ/TS-EHOST2.part1.rar
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0QVHBCQL/TS-EHOST2.part2.rar

Well, here you go folks - the second volume of Toshihiko Sahashi's fine Element Hunters score.

This is one strange album in a great many ways; and I mean that as a compliment. First of all, this album has 38 minutes of further orchestral music to add to the 30 minutes on the first volume. Secondly, it's Sahashi branching out in ways I don't think I would have expected. It's still Sahashi through and through, but unlike a lot of his work, there is some very unique music here. I think this may have been recorded at another session, as the credited orchestra is a bit larger than on the first volume - five trumpets, four trombones, bass trombone, two horns, make for a notable brass section.

Amongst the fairly typical Sahashi sci-fi music (a la Gundam Seed) there are cues like Gestalt Intelligence... a truly lovely, almost impressionistic tone poem, with a wonderfully light touch that Sahashi rarely exhibits. He knows when to roll out the full might of the orchestra - but here, most importantly, he knows when to take it right back. Out of that comes this beautiful lilting piece that's quite unlike anything Sahashi has written before.

Also notable is a couple of choral cues - now, I wasn't expecting that! In my opinion, this is choir done right - sparingly, so you don't get fed up with the sound of it. Jigenryuu recalls Carmina Burana (as so many choral cues do) but on the whole it's completely Sahashi's own. Amy Runaway seems to be based on Bach's Fantasia and Fugue, of all things - Sahashi expands it into an apocalyptic baroque-influenced piece for orchestra and choir.

Well, there you go - this one really surprised and impressed me. The addition of these cues to those of the first volume has pushed Element Hunters very close to being my favourite Sahashi score of all time. I think the whole lot works beautifully - and yes, I'm completely in love with cues like Gestalt Intelligence and Shape Shifter, not just because they're beautiful pieces in their own right, but because Sahashi is getting better all the time.

About half the album is synthy cues - most of them are fun enough, and Different World is just gorgeous - and again, completely unlike Sahashi.

Finally, there's a couple of songs - First Pain is the title theme from Element Hunters, which Sahashi uses quite liberally in the score, so you'll be familiar with the melody. Just Smile With Mirai Orange is an expanded version of a advertisment jingle in the show for an orange juice drink. Suihei Liebe is absolutely brilliant - yes, it's cheesy as hell, but it's so damn catchy.

Well, enjoy - I don't think there'll be any more Element Hunters soundtracks... so this is all you're going to get.

Roll on Sahashi's next anime project! (And I hope he gets the same amout of budget [or more] that he had for this one!)

Enjoy :)
TT

Sorry for the double post - sometimes these things come in two's... :)

If you're looking for the ultimate antidote to the preceeding Sahashi action score, how about this real tearjerker from Michiru Oshima...? Answering a request from Kanno82, here is Adiantum Blue...




MICHIRU OSHIMA
Adiantum Blue
Moscow International Symphonic Orchestra
conducted by
Konstantin D Krimets



My Rip - LAME 3.98.4 - V0 - Scans Included and track titles in Romaji

http://uploadmirrors.com/download/AKRTNXHL/MO-AB.rar

Here's Oshima in full blooded romantic mode, writing for the 2006 theatrical movie Adiantum Blue. It's a tragic love story - that's all I will say for fear of spoilers. Herein you will find one of Oshima's greatest outpourings of melody and beauty. A lovely score that, like the film, says that love is truly eternal.

Goodnight, ladies and gentlemen.

TT

Twenty downloads on Element Hunters, fourteen on Adiantum Blue, already...

Thank you tango!
Downloading now, im sure i will love them.

Thanks a lot tango! Your posts are so amazing.

Thanks, Tango!! Saw these just now, and I'm going to download both of them!! I'm happy to see another Michiru Oshima score.

I wanted to ask you guys something:
Since I�m a big fan of the first Iron Man Soundtrack and there weren�t included several pieces I made myself a piece of work and included them and recut a few.
Original has 19 tracks, mine has 22 and different cover, cause it�s not the original CD anymore and I didn�t like it either.
Should I upload?
Anyone interested?

Thanks Tango for Adiantum Blue [アジアンタムブルー, Ajiantamu burū] 2006 film score by Michiru Ōshima. Sad, very Japanese, romantic and lovely.

I wanted to ask you guys something:
Since I�m a big fan of the first Iron Man Soundtrack and there weren�t included several pieces I made myself a piece of work and included them and recut a few.
Original has 19 tracks, mine has 22 and different cover, cause it�s not the original CD anymore and I didn�t like it either.
Should I upload?
Anyone interested?

Well, maybe not in this thread, since we tend to frown on MV scores, but I'm sure everyone else on the board will love to have it!

Djawadi's "Iron Man" is too rockin' for this crowd. ;-)

Thanks, Tango!! Saw these just now, and I'm going to download both of them!! I'm happy to see another Michiru Oshima score.

There'll be another another one soon enough, courtesy of Masaaki Yuasa's Tatami Galaxy. The first two episodes so far achieve a sort of Ouran High School-effect, with Oshima's lush ensembles and waltzes soaring above po-mo animated comedic insanity. I can't imagine the tracks will be very long, but I'm loving the trip.

Djawadi's "Iron Man" is too rockin' for this crowd. ;-)

LOL, you think?!

Naaaah.^^
Btw: What do you think of the second�s score?

Not as good as the first, or am I alone with this?

Will be postin�my version tomorrow then...
:)

I share your thoughts on the second score. I liked it, but Djawadi's music simply fits the spirit of the movies better. Debney simply feels a bit out of step.

Hi everyone, seems like I missed a great discussion while I was offline.
Nevertheless here is the score I promised to upload, took far longer than expected but here it is...

Excellent; I could use one of those. Thank you very much.

I share your thoughts on the second score. I liked it, but Djawadi's music simply fits the spirit of the movies better. Debney simply feels a bit out of step.

You named it, mate.

Uploading my extended right now and posting it then.
Hope you guys notice the differences.
They�re not that much, but I think it�s worth it...

Thank you for the 2nd Element Hunters OST.

Yeah Thanks for Element Hunters Vol. 2 :)

JOHN SCOTT
THE MILL ON THE FLOSS
BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by the composer



MP3-V0 + Scans
http://www.multiupload.com/BRMI4CG4TK

Amidst talk of Iron Man, Prince of Persia and the 20th fan-edit-super-duper-complete version of Avatar, time for for something a little different ;)

This is an absolutely beautiful poignant score from the masterful John Scott that has really become a favourite of mine, and continues to grow in my affection. It's music that carries you along in its drift to another time and another place.

Excerpt from the liner notes:
"John's Scott's musical score is based principally upon a gently flowing pastoral theme, a musical depiction of the Floss itself, the river that shapes the characters' lives and, ultimately, their tragic fates. Drawing on a long tradition of English orchestral music inspired by folk song, this limpid melody evokes the tranquility of the setting in the heart of the English countryside; but, like the best folk songs, it is also endowed with a poignant reflective quality - here assisted by pellucid orchestral colouring for solo woodwind and strings. As ever with a score from this composer, there is a variety of delightful and expressive melodic material to be found throughout, and the orchestral textures posses a rare and delightful transparency."

The painting is 'Young Girl Seated by a Watermill' by Thomas Mackay. It gives a better flavour of the delicate poetic atmosphere of this captivating music than the somewhat prosaic coverart (which is, of course, included with the scans).

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do! :)

Das Letzte Einhorn (The Last Unicorn) Soundtrack (1982)
Composed by Jimmy Webb
Performed by the London Symphony Orchestra
LAME -V 0 MP3 (33.71 MB)



http://www.mediafire.com/?xy5zmntnxge

The Last Unicorn was one of my favorite movies as a kid, and I still love it. Great music, great characters, great bittersweet story. This soundtrack also had vocals on it by the band America, but I only included the orchestral cues.


Gundam Wing Symphonic Collection
Composed by Kou Ohtani
Performed by the King Philharmonic Orchestra
LAME -V 0 MP3 (56.38 MB)



http://www.mediafire.com/?mmazzjnr2wz

The Gundam Wing score is mostly a mixture of orchestral, jazz, and electronic/synth, but I went through the TV and OAV soundtracks picking out only the symphonic cues. As for other Gundam soundtracks, I know that V Gundam's score is entirely orchestral and composed by Akira Senju. Enjoy!

MICHIRU OSHIMA
Adiantum Blue


This is a romantic yet sad music that touches the soul.
There aren't any big sweeping love themes, but instead there are pleasant and suave melodies, apart from one odd track with electronic beeps.
Sometimes big is not necessarily better, and i think this is the case
Thank you for posting Tangotreats.

JOHN SCOTT
THE MILL ON THE FLOSS
BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by the composer

MP3-V0 + Scans
http://www.multiupload.com/BRMI4CG4TK

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do! :)


Das Letzte Einhorn (The Last Unicorn) Soundtrack (1982)
Composed by Jimmy Webb
Performed by the London Symphony Orchestra
LAME -V 0 MP3 (33.71 MB)

http://www.mediafire.com/?xy5zmntnxge

The Last Unicorn was one of my favorite movies as a kid, and I still love it. Great music, great characters, great bittersweet story. This soundtrack also had vocals on it by the band America, but I only included the orchestral cues.


Gundam Wing Symphonic Collection
Composed by Kou Ohtani
Performed by the King Philharmonic Orchestra
LAME -V 0 MP3 (56.38 MB)

http://www.mediafire.com/?mmazzjnr2wz

The Gundam Wing score is mostly a mixture of orchestral, jazz, and electronic/synth, but I went through the TV and OAV soundtracks picking out only the symphonic cues. As for other Gundam soundtracks, I know that V Gundam's score is entirely orchestral and composed by Akira Senju. Enjoy!

Thanks for these!
I have long wanted to hear an orchestral Gundam Wing collection and the other soundtracks sound interesting.

Im highly interested in the John Scott one.
I'll let you know what I think about it later.

(its John Scott though so its bound to be brilliant)

thanks tangotreat
for element hunter 2 and adiantum blue

I actually found the V Gundam scores some time ago. They're not the greatest quality, though (roughly the same quality as the Zoids Genesis score I tracked down), but if people want to hear them I'll put them up tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Lens of Truth;1477794][CENTER]JOHN SCOTT
THE MILL ON THE FLOSS
BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by the composer



This is brilliant. Look forward to hearing it!

I actually found the V Gundam scores some time ago. They're not the greatest quality, though (roughly the same quality as the Zoids Genesis score I tracked down), but if people want to hear them I'll put them up tomorrow.

I can't understand why it seems most of the gundam music I found when I tried to search for it was terrible quality yet all the stuff from SEED and SEED DESTINY is available in great quality.

JOHN SCOTT
THE MILL ON THE FLOSS
BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by the composer





Das Letzte Einhorn (The Last Unicorn) Soundtrack (1982)
Composed by Jimmy Webb
Performed by the London Symphony Orchestra
LAME -V 0 MP3 (33.71 MB)



Gundam Wing Symphonic Collection
Composed by Kou Ohtani
Performed by the King Philharmonic Orchestra
LAME -V 0 MP3 (56.38 MB)



Thanks a bunch for these! I imagine the John Scott will be terrific judging by the other score that was posted here a good while ago. Thanks Lens, and thanks, Grandis!

I can't understand why it seems most of the gundam music I found when I tried to search for it was terrible quality yet all the stuff from SEED and SEED DESTINY is available in great quality.

Well, the majority of Gundam soundtracks are getting up there in age. V Gundam's from 1993. I don't think they could be expected to be posted in high quality. It's difficult to find Oshima's FMA scores in decent quality too and those soudntracks are from 2003-04.

In 1993, the final Universal Century Gundam TV series directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino premiered. Victory Gundam was produced in the midst of one of Tomino's infamous bouts of depression, and was arguably in his worst mental state ever when writing and directing this production. 51 episodes were produced of this series.

It takes place 54 years after the events of the movie Char's Counterattack, and is currently the "end point" for Universal Century as no widely-recognized entry (G. Savior does not exist!) goes any farther in the timeline. It is considered by many to be the most depressing Gundam produced due to many, many, MANY characters dying in MOST GRUESOME WAYS YOU CAN THINK OF AND THEN SOME. Further adding to the bleak nature of this series is that a 13-year-old boy is the main character and thus is subject to the horrors of war and slaughtering people and watching people he cares about die (including his own mother, who gets decapitated right before a cease-fire).

Is it any wonder why Victory Gundam will never be released on these shores?

Further killing any slim chance of it making it overseas is Tomino's assertion that it is the worst Gundam he's ever worked on and he likes to pretend it doesn't exist. However, the show has a dedicated fanbase in Japan and a small, devout cult audience in the Western world.

Fittingly, the music of Victory Gundam is bleak and haunting. Do not let the cheery opening pieces of Score I and the J-pop songs fool you. By the time Score II rolls around, the music is hauntingly beautiful and melancholy, sweeping you up in grand and bleak orchestral suites filled to the brim with emotion. Victory Gundam was one of the first anime series to be produced with an orchestra providing the BGM, though Victory Gundam isn't celebrated for it the way Escaflowne and Giant Robo are.

Victory Gundam is also notable for being Akira Senju's first anime score. The notoriously choosy composer has only done six or seven anime series since. including the currently-running Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. The compositions here are a bit rougher than FMA's, though that's to be expected considering Victory Gundam's going on twenty years old.

VICTORY GUNDAM SOUNDTRACKS

All BGM tracks are orchestrated. I left in the J-pop numbers when I could, so you can make up your own mind whether to keep them or not.

Score I (missing one track, the ED theme "Winners Forever", due to file corruption):

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4URZEMH7

Score II:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C00JMXK8

Score III:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IEQ1H2TP

It takes place 54 years after the events of the movie Char's Counterattack, and is currently the "end point" for Universal Century as no widely-recognized entry (G. Savior does not exist!) goes any farther in the timeline.

"Turn A Gundam" begs to differ!

Anyway, since this thread has a lot of intellectual discussion, I thought I'd bring something up here. I read an interesting piece on the Intrada web site about the state of score albums. The writer argued that labels might be taking too much of an "archivist" approach to track arrangement, and that doing so kind of diminishes the listening experience.

My stance is, I kind of get what he means. There's an art to taking existing cues and integrating them into suites that function as a pastiche of emotional or visceral moments from the movie. It reminds me of the classic movie posters where an artist would paint a montage of visual highlights from the film. (e.g. a lot of the old James Bond posters, Blade Runner.)

A recent "arranged" album I listened to was James Horner's "Something Wicked This Way Comes." I think the creative arrangements enhanced the listening experience. For example, the "pastoral" material that concludes the first track is nicely contrasted by the darker carnival motifs that dominate the second track. Towards the end, the album climaxes without a lot of dark and perilous music before returning to the peaceful "track one" material in "End Titles." Some of it isn't in "chronological" order, but would it really be better if it was?

I'm a score buff, so having every big and small cue arranged in film order doesn't bother me. But if I weren't such a buff, I could see how hearing this material straight and out-of-context can make for a strange listening experience.

What do you folks think?

Lens, thanks very much for Mill on the Floss...really hit the spot. Nice pastoral, gentle score. Very soothing and occasionally moving listen — much appreciated! :)

spaceworlder:

For what it's worth, when I listen to a score, it's not in order to replay the movie in my head. If I wanted to do that, I'd watch the movie and then I would be able to actually see what was happening instead of imagining it. ;)

From that perspective, I'm a great believer in the album as a constructed, coherent listening experience. Then again, I believe all music should be out there... so I suppose in a way I see both sides of the coin and support them both adequately. As far as I'm concerned, I will usually take a complete, archival release and arrange my own album... which I wouldn't be able to do if all the material wasn't released in the first place. So, from my perspective, the current "release everything" sensibility gives me absolutely everything I could ever want.

Though, as you say, I have a great deal of sympathy for those folk who want to sit back and listen to some good music... and are faced with fifty thousand little bitty tracks, in religious chronological order.

It's a difficult one, to be sure.

Notspecial:

Victory Gundam has always been my favourite Gundam score of all time. Are these Lawrence Bastard's rips at 320kbps?

[EDIT: No, they're not..... NotSPecial - would you object if I reuploaded a significantly better quality rip of these albums and made a big deal of them? I really love V Gundam.]

Senju's first foray into animation was also some of his finest work of all time. Definitely rough around the edges (not to mention the orchestra; Anthony Inglis, who conducted the score, was reportedly dismayed at the performance standards during the recording session) but somehow that makes it all the more endearing.

The score is about people first and mecha second; the way it should be.

Speaking of poor quality Gundam rips (and others)... there is good stuff out there; it's just a bit harder to find than your bog standard 128kbps rips from yesteryear... ;)

Speaking of quality Gundam rips, does anyone here have good rips of Kouhei Tanaka's "G Gundam" albums?

Speaking of quality Gundam rips, does anyone here have good rips of Kouhei Tanaka's "G Gundam" albums?

Now there's one I was never able to find... :(

I have crappy clicky 128kbps rips - presumably the same ones everybody else has...

G Gundam OSTs, lossless:
http://tora.to/blog/277727.htm

Would someone download these and make good quality mp3?
I have really crappy internet connection...

You the man, Amodos.

G Gundam OSTs, lossless:
http://tora.to/blog/277727.htm

Would someone download these and make good quality mp3?
I have really crappy internet connection...

I'm downloading the first two, but the download speed is really slow so it will be a while I think...

Edit: They both failed, I don't know if someone else would like to try?

Hey guys just wanted to pop in and say that I saw Robin Hood and I LOVED The movie and the soundtrack. The music has a very nice melody that hangs with you after listening and its some beautiful, if simple, orchestral work.

Hey guys just wanted to pop in and say that I saw Robin Hood and I LOVED The movie and the soundtrack. The music has a very nice melody that hangs with you after listening and its some beautiful, if simple, orchestral work.
You and me both. I thought that Lady's Marion's motif could have been developed more thoroughly, that the "evil" motif of Godfrey was risky and will make many people hate it, and that the romance scenes were scored a bit too on the nose for my liking.

But the film is was a lot of fun, I don't know what the critics are whining about.

Incidentally, any idea when we'll be getting a decent bitrate version of the score?

I have the V Gundam and G Gundam soundtracks in lossless quality; I can try to get them uploaded tonight if people want. It's much easier for me to upload mp3s than lossless, so I would probably go the LAME VBR route unless there are objections.

Yeah please go VBR that is good enough :)

I'm okay with VBR.

VBR is excellent. I see no problems with it at all.

Thanks all!
Grandis: I've almost got Round 1 of G Gundam and I'm quite happy to encode this to MP3 and upload, if you'd prefer - take some of the strain off? :)

Wow, lots of stuff going recently - will have to check one at a time. Thanks a lot for the great music, mates! I'll be more active sunday.




JUST SMILE WITH MIRAI ORANGE!


TOSHIHIKO SAHASHI
Element Hunters (Original Soundtrack Vol. 2) 2010
AKA Elementhunters, Eremento Hanta, エレメントハンタ


Great, Sahashi in SF mode is really something. From time to time, the music reminds of those 80's Star trek scores, there's a similar feel to it, for instance in the superb "Communicate!". The magnificient "Gestalt Intelligence" seems like a 3-minute development of a motif from Total Recall, which is pure gold ! Overall this is again an utterly enjoyable Sahashi score. Can this man disappoint ?

Thanks also for the Oshima, you had SUCH a good idea to dig out this 2006 score for us to enjoy ! Again a wonderful score that receives a deserved appreciation thanks to Mr TT.




Hey guys just wanted to pop in and say that I saw Robin Hood and I LOVED The movie and the soundtrack. The music has a very nice melody that hangs with you after listening and its some beautiful, if simple, orchestral work.

Well, a good friend of mine sent me the score for trying it (thanks !), and I have to say, what a disappointment ! (not really in fact, since I expected such score for Gladiator redux)

I'll have more detailed comments tomorrow (or technically in a few hours), but for the moment I'll just say that it looks like Gladiator meets Braveheart meets trailer music to me. Except for a few pleasing parts, most of it is your usual Remote Control score.

I respect your appreciation of this score, but this is one is just not my cup of tea. Simple, you said ? Yep, that's the word.

(more comments to come a bit later)

I have the V Gundam and G Gundam soundtracks in lossless quality; I can try to get them uploaded tonight if people want. It's much easier for me to upload mp3s than lossless, so I would probably go the LAME VBR route unless there are objections.

would it be possible to upload all 3 ost of V-Gundam in 320k? really into Senju Akira n V-Gundam is simply one of his best, thanks~

tangotreats, if you want to repost V Gundam in higher quality (or if anyone feels like it, really) go ahead. I was just posting what I had, I'd love a better quality version. I have low-quality rips of Gundam X OSTs too but it would be nice to have VBR-quality versions instead.

Tangotreats, thank you for all your past and future releases, especially for Michiru Oshima and Toshihiko Sahashi ones.. I'm really enjoying it!

Robin and PoP - two complete dissapointments, but I must add, that I did not expect anything good from Robin (mostly cause I don't care about movie, Scott with his big films never worked for me). I'm not surprised that it's boring, 100% RCP style, with orchestra that sounds like synths, and underscore that kills with it's boredom (John is King). It never was meant to be good (even if I kinda like few tracks - Landing of the French for example). But for PoP I had some crazy hopes. So thanks to HGW for making an idiot out of me. Again. Although the whole score has some nice parts (or should I say part - Ostrich Race), the rest is just synthetic mess, without any creativity or heart.

And guys, try to listen to Alan Wake. Not much of score on OST (only like 15 minutes), but it's really nice orchestral work. Not original, but very moody, with some really beautiful parts.

I am actually shocked that so many people hate Robin Hood. I love this orchestral score, and am even more shocked that it came from someone associated with Zimmer. This is as far away from a MV production as you can get. Some of you are probably turned off by the simplicity of it all, but to me that is something to enjoy. Less is more!

In conclusion, Godfrey is an absolutey spectacular villain motif.

I'm still waiting for a better rip of Robin Flop before I give it a listen. The samples I heard on YouTube sounded partly decent and partly underwhelming.

On the topic of robin hood, i don't hate it. But I just can't enjoy it either. There are some nice moments but overall it doesn't do anything for me. Which is fine because I wasn't expecting anything from it. So even though it probably won't get multiple listens on my part, it actually is better than i was expecting.

Pointless fun fact:

The "Robin Hood" score starts with a track titled "Destiny", and the "Prince of Persia" score ends with a track titled "Destiny."

Pointless fun fact:

The "Robin Hood" score starts with a track titled "Destiny", and the "Prince of Persia" score ends with a track titled "Destiny."

Another fun fact: "Destiny", "Fate" are all very common in fantasy and "sword and sorcery" stories. :)

And guys, try to listen to Alan Wake. Not much of score on OST (only like 15 minutes), but it's really nice orchestral work. Not original, but very moody, with some really beautiful parts.
+1

This is an EXCELLENT score, and it deserves a much better release to showcase the 240 or so minutes written for the game. Whether or not it's original I leave to others to bicker about — to me the vital thing is that it's emotionally poignant, especially but not exclusively in context, and is expertly put together. Congrats to Remedy for a great game, and to Petri for a correspondingly excellent score.

Keeping my eyes peeled for a more complete release!

So I realized that, unlike tangotreats, I have no appreciation for the non-orchestral synthesized music composed by Sahashi-San. As such I thought I would make it easier for myself and many orchestral fans out there who think similarly and make orchestral packs for each soundtrack posted here that includes all tracks played by live instruments without any synth. This of course will include some Jazz tracks but it is not so much the style of music but the actual instrument used that gets on my nerves. This may take me a long time and I may also never finish but I'll see how far I get.

So, I'm wrapping up my listen of "Robin Hood." Parts of it have a nice Danny Elfman "Batman" feel. I think it's the percussion in certain tracks, the 'rat-a-tat-tat' sound. All in all, it's a pretty decent score. I don't care much for the main theme, which sounds like it's lifted from "Last of the Mohicans."

And guys, try to listen to Alan Wake. Not much of score on OST (only like 15 minutes), but it's really nice orchestral work. Not original, but very moody, with some really beautiful parts.

Indeed it was....nice
Nothing new and unprecidented, just plain old good music.

And guys, try to listen to Alan Wake. Not much of score on OST (only like 15 minutes), but it's really nice orchestral work. Not original, but very moody, with some really beautiful parts.

Your overly large, bold, red letters will do nothing to persuade me! :)

I'll give it a listen when there is an actual "complete" release, not just a few out of place selections. God, I hate videogame companies sometimes.

Yeah its a huge shame that at the moment there is nothing about a soundtrack release for Alan Wake. At least we know to watch for a rip when it surfaces.

Kidou Senshi V Gundam (Mobile Suit Victory Gundam)
Composed by Akira Senju
Performed by the King Philharmonic Orchestra



V Gundam SCORE I (1993)
LAME -V 0 MP3 + Scans (79.22 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?tyijajmc2ij




V Gundam SCORE II (1993)
LAME -V 0 MP3 + Scans (83.66 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mnyiyycnwyt




V Gundam SCORE III (1994)
LAME -V 0 MP3 + Scans (79.64 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?n5eyegyjh31


I don't have the musical knowledge or vocabulary to say much about these other than that I like them :), so I'll leave the technical discussion to tangotreats and others...

Awesome, thanks for posting the V gundam scores :)

Kidou Butouden G Gundam (Mobile Fighter G Gundam)
Composed by Kouhei Tanaka
Performed by the King Philharmonic Orchestra



G Gundam ROUND 1 & 2 (1994)

Disc 1: ROUND 1 - LAME -V 0 MP3 (103.36 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?yjvwy2zyy3r

Disc 2: ROUND 2 - LAME -V 0 MP3 (122.09 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?zhzq5qoezuh




G Gundam ROUND 3 (1994)
LAME -V 0 MP3 (87.01 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?itmttongzdy




G Gundam ROUND 4 (1995)
LAME -V 0 MP3 (119.54 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?2kdtctqtt1n




G Gundam ROUND 5 (1995)
LAME -V 0 MP3 (114.19 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?0en2nrzz2yy

Thank you very much! I've never heard these at all, but I like Kouhei Tanaka as well as Akira Senju and they seem to be rather rare! Thanks again.

Edit: Extraction errors for G Gundam 1 & 2(Disc 2) tracks 6 and 20 (file broken). I downloaded the file twice to make sure and I got the same error both times. Would it be possible to upload those two tracks separately?

Great, I reserved a few hours yesterday just to download and listen stuff from this thread, answer to several posts, and post another Sahashi score, but by a wonderful coincidence the board was down at that precise moment... :notgood:

Anyway, just passing by quickly to say thanks to Mr Grandis who once again brings a massive musical treasure to the people of this thread. Two thumbs up, Sir, thank you very much for your efforts!

Also I have more comments about Robin Hood tonight... if the board is accessible.



So I realized that, unlike tangotreats, I have no appreciation for the non-orchestral synthesized music composed by Sahashi-San. As such I thought I would make it easier for myself and many orchestral fans out there who think similarly and make orchestral packs for each soundtrack posted here that includes all tracks played by live instruments without any synth. This of course will include some Jazz tracks but it is not so much the style of music but the actual instrument used that gets on my nerves. This may take me a long time and I may also never finish but I'll see how far I get.

Ouch, I'd rather not, because:


I'd just like to emit one little reservation: some posters sometimes remove some tracks from the albums they share. I perfectly understand this, since this is the orchestral thread, so non-orchestral tracks are out of context. But I generally consider that sharing full albums is a much better thing, because people who download can decide themselves which tracks to keep and which ones to remove, depending on their tastes. One can appreciate orchestral music AND other kind of music! (for instance, even though 90% of what I listen is orchestral, I have nothing against some occasional cute, sweet anime song, or some relaxing smooth jazz, or other non-orchestral stuff). Moreover, if one day a friend of mine desperately asks for this album, I'd be glad to provide him a full album, without missing tracks, you see? Just my 2 cents ;)

Moreover putting jazz tracks in an orchestral selections makes no sense. I see your point though, but deciding to post partial albums deciding upon our OWN tastes is something I'd rather avoid. I prefer to post the whole stuff and then let people decide.

And I really like some of the synth tracks in EH2. ;)

Finally, the "G Gundam" stuff! Thanks, Grandis.

On a related note, I looked into Yoko Kanno being a plagiarist… and now I'm too disgusted to even have her albums in my music library. It was very difficult for me to do, because I'm a huge fan of the "Turn A Gundam" series, but I deleted all three albums off my drive. That woman is despicable. >:- /

thanks for the gundam soundtracks

Nice to see some gundam mp3's up, just in case my hard drive fries and I need to redownload Victory. Never really liked G gundam; definitely took Tanaka a little while to refine his typical bombast into something less cheesy and vulgar while still retaining his power(One Piece and the recent End of Eternity are among his finest works.) Would anyone happen to have Wings of Rean? Recently fell in love with Yasuo Higuchi's Gundam X score and it's a shame he's done so little with anime.


On a related note, I looked into Yoko Kanno being a plagiarist… and now I'm too disgusted to even have her albums in my music library. It was very difficult for me to do, because I'm a huge fan of the "Turn A Gundam" series, but I deleted all three albums off my drive. That woman is despicable. >:- /

LOL Your loss.

Thank you very much! I've never heard these at all, but I like Kouhei Tanaka as well as Akira Senju and they seem to be rather rare! Thanks again.

Edit: Extraction errors for G Gundam 1 & 2(Disc 2) tracks 6 and 20 (file broken). I downloaded the file twice to make sure and I got the same error both times. Would it be possible to upload those two tracks separately?

You're welcome! Sorry about the corrupted file; here are the two tracks that were broken: http://www.mediafire.com/?ttynqzwyvli. The original link is fixed, too.

I understand what you mean Arthierr but I already posted the full soundtracks so this will just be a slimmed down version as an alternative for those who want it.

You're welcome! Sorry about the corrupted file; here are the two tracks that were broken: http://www.mediafire.com/?ttynqzwyvli. The original link is fixed, too.

Cool! I'll start listening to them today at work!! The only Tanaka I've heard is the bit that was done for End of Eternity and it seems like most people expected better in that instance, but I enjoyed his work for that game, so I'm expecting these to be quite good. Thanks for the quick fix, and thanks again!

Tangotreats! Thank you for the upload of Adiantum Blue!! :) Thanks a lott :)

LOL Your loss.

You think so? I personally find it difficult to listen to music knowing that it may have been copied off someone else without acknowledgement.

A humble request please.
Does someone by any chance, has a copy of Trinity and Beyond posted here?
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1170725&postcount=599

I accidentally deleted it from my disc drive and can not recover the files now. I contacted Arthierr, but he said that doesn't have the files anymore to make a new upload.
I think that it was first time i deleted one album by neglect. Thank goodness it was not the whole music folder lol, but oh well, i'll be more careful next time. I promise :D

Here Ya Go sanico. Hope it works.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0MMGOZWF

I finally listened to The Mill on the Floss yesterday, and it was really good! There is some wonderful pastoral writing here, and I enjoyed it all. It was interesting to me that one of the themes in "Philip and Maggie" was very very familiar and sounded just like something R. Strauss had written, but I didn't place it until just now. It is borrowed from Strauss' Don Juan (which is terrific) , but the short motif is used quite differently in Philip and Maggie. The motif I'm talking about happens about halfway through the John Scott piece, and I would have to find it in Don Juan (which I may do later tonight)

edit: found it. It's about ten minutes in, depending on your recording

Thanks to Sanico and herbaciak for Trinity and Beyond - The Atomic Bomb Movie, a 1995 American documentary. Dramatic music by William Stromberg, performed vividly by the Moscow Symphony Orchestra. This deserves to be more widely heard. It has tempted me to hunt for the DVD, especially with narration by William Shatner!

I don�t know if it is real. You can decide.

Predators from John Debney (recording sessions).

For me it sounds pretty grood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCq9zJR-J04

Best

Here Ya Go sanico. Hope it works.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0MMGOZWF

Herbaciak, thank you so much for your help.
It's great to listen this music again, but i learned the lesson to be more careful when i delete the files now ;)

And now..





Atomic Journeys/Nukes In Space by William Stromberg & John Morgan

42 Tracks @ 320 kbps
http://rapidshare.com/files/387688170/Atomic_Journeys__Nukes_In_Space.zip

Samples
Travel To New Mexico (http://www.zshare.net/audio/762075323b045318/)
Space Race (http://www.zshare.net/audio/762076009b0df98d/)

From the two main composers and the orchestra involved on the original documentary, Trinity and Beyond, where is the music composed for the sequels Atomic Journeys and Nukes in Space.

Odyssey Of The Belem - John Scott (2003)



http://hotfile.com/dl/43414966/3e9d71c/0_Belem.rar.html

This is an epic adventure story about a dog and survival. The music speaks of love and devotion. There is suspense music, savage animal music, storm at sea music, music to starve to, and dog’s sixth sense music.
Hopelessly lost in the forests of British Columbia, survival is difficult. Yellow Dog leads Angus back to civilization then tumbles thousands of feet into the raging waters and rocks below. There can be no chance of survival for Yellow Dog. Now safely restored to his family, Angus mourns the loss of his best friend. The weeks pass. Then one morning Angus senses something. There is something in the distance. As the something gets nearer the music builds. Yellow Dog has returned. The impassioned music brings tears of joy to the eyes.

Composer John Scott joins the Jules Verne Aventures team during their voyage aboard the iron-clad Belem as they trace the original routes and destinations of the Belem at the height of its fame as a transport ship for the French convict colonies along the Amazon river. He kept a log of his experiences, which include seeing the volcano, Mt. Pel�, and the site of an ancient Indian civilization long since gone and returned to civilization to write a four-part symphony in the grand tradition, with all the spectacle, mystery and high adventure of the Odyssey of the Belem. The music is performed by the Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra, conducted by John Scott himself. Also includes the Jules Verne Festival Overture, original composed for a series of Jules Verne Adventures concerts in Paris.

Track Listings
I. Odyssey Of The Belem
1. First Tableau - Crossing The Atlantic
2. Second Tableau - The Amazon Rain Forest
3. Third Tableau - Eruption Of Mount Pel�
4. Fourth Tableau - Whales Of Atlantis

II. Jules Verne 5. Festival Overture

Format: Mp3 320 kbps
Size: 130.8 MB

Now I'm coo-coo for Kouhei. Does anyone have VBR/320 rips of the two "08th MS Team" TV albums?

I have to say I'm EXTREMELY disappointed with Centurion. It sounds like every other ethnic instrument focused soundtrack complete with the use of wailing female vocals. Strangely enough, I love the female vocals in Robin Hood (because I feel something when I hear them) when compared to the bland ones used in Centurion.

Wow, we have been on fire with these shares lately. They have truly been fantastic.
I have another to add to the list. I know tango has talked about the main theme before.



Takayuki Hattori
Shinsengumi


Sample (http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/6/24/2487612//02 Shinsengumi! ~ Main Theme.mp3)
1. With Lightning Speed...
2. Shinsengumi! Main Theme
3. Full of Fighting Spirit
4. Daybreak
5. Impulse
6. Dashing Brave Soldier
7. People from Tama
8. Tension
9. Sing The Praises of Youth
10. Despair
11. An Encounter
12. Shinsengumi! Main Theme (Piano Version)
13. Mobilization
14. Turbulent Era
15. Regret
16. Loyal Friendship
17. Gekizan
18. Majestic Triumphant Return
19. Sincere Will
20. Responsibility
21. Defeated In War
22. Faithful Love
23. Shinsengumi! Main Theme ~ Traveller's Journal Version

http://www.multiupload.com/JHXSC7S368

Previous Takayuki Hattori uploads
Intelligent Qube (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1468046&postcount=4868)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms V (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?p=1430042&highlight=hattori#post1430042)
Final Fantasy Symphonic Suite (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1339763&postcount=3344)
Falcom Neo Classic (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1448273&postcount=4541)
Godzilla Vs. Space Godzilla (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1473007&postcount=4985)

Yay, more Hattori! Thanks, ShadowontheSun

Yay, more Hattori! Thanks, ShadowontheSun

There is more being uploaded too ;)

I have to say I'm EXTREMELY disappointed with Centurion. It sounds like every other ethnic instrument focused soundtrack complete with the use of wailing female vocals. Strangely enough, I love the female vocals in Robin Hood (because I feel something when I hear them) when compared to the bland ones used in Centurion.

But this was done by Ilan Eshkiri, who did the wonderful Stardust! You have to be wrong! You must be!

/goes into denial

Except that it is NOTHING like stardust. Stardust (while some consider overrated) is sweeping orchestral work and gives me the chills listening to the last few tracks. This has none of that powerful music and no melodies worth remembering.

/goes into denial

Jerry Goldsmith: Summer Pops Concert (Jerry Goldsmith) (1989)

Composed and conduced: Jerry Goldsmith
Year: 1989
Format: MPEG a 320 kbps / 44,100kHz
Size: 208,4 Mb

http://img218.imagevenue.com/loc921/th_26177_GoldsmithSummerPopsConcert8_18_89Frt2_122 _921lo.jpg (http://img218.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=26177_GoldsmithSummerPopsConcert8_18 _89Frt2_122_921lo.jpg)

CONTENIDO:

CD 1:

1. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
2. Jerry Goldsmith
3. Motion Picture Themes - Medley: The Sand Pebbles / Chinatown / A Patch Of Blue / Poltergeist / Papillon / The Wind And The Lion
4. Jerry Goldsmith
5. Twilight Zone: The Movie
6. Jerry Goldsmith
7. Alien
8. Jerry Goldsmith
9. Rambo (First Blood)
10. Jerry Goldsmith
11. Hoosiers

CD 2:

1. Capricorn One
2. Jerry Goldsmith
3. The Artist Who Did Not Want To Paint (Prologue From The Agony And The Ecstasy)
4. P�blico Aplaudiendo
5. Jerry Goldsmith
6. Lionhear
7. Jerry Goldsmith
8. Under Fire
9. Jerry Goldsmith
10. The Television Suite: The Man From U.N.C.L.E. / Dr. Kildare / Room 222 / The Waltons / Barnaby Jones
11. Jerry Goldsmith
12. The Generals Suite: Mac Arthur / Patton

Link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BIIO9UWF

Thanks to Octavi for the upload

BTW, for anyone interested in Kouhei Tanaka's "G Gundam" stuff…

All of the score-relevant material is on Rounds 1, 2, and 4. Rounds 3 & 5 are song albums. Not that those CDs aren't cool, but I thought some of the folks here might like to know that.

Round 3 in particular stands out as half "audio story" and half songs, which are sung in Cantonese. Round 5 mostly consists of character "image" songs, Japanese versions of the Cantonese songs from Round 3, and instrumental versions of the two TV theme songs.

Takayuki Hattori
Shinsengumi

And thank you very much.

I enjoyed the Intelligent Qube tuneage; this should prove an interesting follow-up.

Andes to Amazon
Nicholas Hooper
MP3 VBR
http://file.shareyourfiles.net/6oynaS/

Could you please reupload this? The current link is dead.
Many thanks in advance.

Grandis, Garcia, Shadow - THANK YOU!!!!!

Haven't been able to sign on for a while and there's so much to catch up on - Senju, Scott, previously unheard Goldsmith concert(!) and more.. The full score for Shinsengumi is something I've been dying to delve into since we were teased with the joyous theme :D The scurrying opening bars pop into my head all the time!


I finally listened to The Mill on the Floss yesterday, and it was really good! There is some wonderful pastoral writing here, and I enjoyed it all. It was interesting to me that one of the themes in "Philip and Maggie" was very very familiar and sounded just like something R. Strauss had written, but I didn't place it until just now. It is borrowed from Strauss' Don Juan (which is terrific) , but the short motif is used quite differently in Philip and Maggie. The motif I'm talking about happens about halfway through the John Scott piece, and I would have to find it in Don Juan (which I may do later tonight)

I hadn't picked up on that!

I'm inclined to say it was probably more of an accidental resemblance. It comes as part of a sequence of development from Philip's theme to the initial love theme, and then to this variation. Track 8 is itself an extrapolation of a song Philip sings to Maggie as a child. Incidentally, 'Heart Attack' and 'Arabesque' also allow diegetic music to bleed into the score- perhaps a convention in period drama, but Scott does it so perfectly and at crucial dramatic moments.

To pick up from something Scott mentions in his note: one of the wonderful subtleties of this score is that it's essentially structured around three love themes. We have the familial love/fate theme of Maggie and her brother Tom (symbolised by the river), the innocent, platonic(?) love of Maggie and Philip, based around sympathy, friendship and shared intellectual pursuits, and the romantic, barely-suppressed sexual love of Maggie and Steven (with tremolos and the requisite Wagnerian-'longing' upward chromatic push).

They're themes that, taken together, tell us something about different relationships, different bonds and feelings. Williams does a similar thing in the original Star Wars trilogy with Leia/ Han and the Princess/ Luke and Leia; as does North in Cleopatra.

[To anyone who thinks these transformations are somehow separate from the emotional experience of the music, and that to try to describe them is 'pretentious' and 'over-intellectual'.. well, you *might* just be wrong ;)]

Edit - a further possibility has occurred. If we assume that Scott was making a deliberate allusion here (a stretch, granted), it's interesting that it occurs in a scene where Philip is trying to get Maggie back into reading books. Her stiffing life at the mill and oppressive family have forced her to abandon novels and poetry - declared 'sinful' and 'dangerous' etc. Philip wants her follow her passions, intellect and imagination, and to believe in adventure and romance.. Could one of the books he smuggles into her possession be Don Juan??

Thank you all for V Gundam and Mill on the Floss, they are outstanding.
In return I recently discovered something unique I want to share with you all.



Strings / Guitar / Piano / Action / Drama

Does anyone of you remember the score for Phantom Reqiem for the Phantom ?
This time Composer Nanase Hiraku has outdone himself and composed a score that could easily be used in any Hollywood Action Thriller ala Bourne.
But since this is done in Japan it has a million times more depth and complexity than any american score for a movie like that I can think of.
It is very heavy on strings and uses many Middle Eastern instruments,
there is a certain melancholic feeling to it all and it is also thematic.


CD1 MP3 V0 320kb/s 76 MB 22 Tracks


Download CD1 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywmjtdodzlm/Disc 1.7z)


CD2 MP3 V0 320kb/s 84 MB 20 Tracks



Download CD2 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/imt2menmdif/Disc 2.7z)


CD3 MP3 V0 320kb/s 99 MB 18 Tracks



Download CD3 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/eejtmtogmi2/Disc 3.7z)


This version of the score has almost all ambience & synth tracks removed (RT: 162 min.) so it is alot more enjoyable than the commercial release.

The Music made the Show CANAAN worth my time and at one point I really thought I was watching a Hollywood movie.
But that aside, I really recommend it. Escspecially fans of Nanase Hiraku's work will find it exciting.

Ah, before I forget ... Beware of Track 21 of CD1 (Your Ears will bleed!)

LOST PLANET�
Music by Jaime Christopherson
Gamrip done by Sectus. MP3 Conversion and cover done by myself.




http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JXPIOLNU

Lost Planet� bombed big time. The game was released with more bugs than a hive. It was chaotic, insensible, and overall just one hell of a mess, and a great example of how bigger is rarely better. Even after several days the game is not equal to it's parts.

Capcom did get one thing right, however. They got Jamie Christopherson, the guy who did the music from the first game, to compose the music for Lost Planet�. And what music it is! Completely orchestral, grand and bombastic with every note. There is little subtlety here. It is pure charismatic, grand, and wonderfully written. There are a few moments of rock guitar movements, but they are few, rarely and used in a great way.

In short, this is an awesome example of orchestral music in videogames. The format is MP3 LAME VBR V0. Enjoy!

Oooo I was hoping that would show up, thanks Doublehex! :)

The Lost Planet 2 music didn't do anything for me, after i finished listening it didn't really leave any impression. Thanks anyway though. :)

Here is another score I promised you guys a little while ago.


Takayuki Hattori
Godzilla 2000: Millennium

Sample (http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/6/24/2487612/50%20End%20Title%2C%20The%20Feated%20God%20-%20Godzilla%20-%20%28M%20Ending%29.mp3)

http://www.multiupload.com/N55U15SPF6


Previous Takayuki Hattori uploads
Shinsengumi (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1479499&postcount=5225)
Intelligent Qube (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1468046&postcount=4868)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms V (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?p=1430042&highlight=hattori#post1430042)
Final Fantasy Symphonic Suite (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1339763&postcount=3344)
Falcom Neo Classic (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1448273&postcount=4541)
Godzilla Vs. Space Godzilla (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1473007&postcount=4985)

First of all, thanks for great posts (a lot of 'em these days:D). I took some Hattori, I took Senju, I took sequel to Trinity and Beyond and I took probably something more. So thanks to all of U guys.

Second, did anyone - by an accident - listen to my tracks that I posted few pages ago (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1474553&postcount=5036)? If yes, please say what U think, 'cause I'm kinda curious. And U really can destroy me. Oportunity of a lifetime:D.

And finally, something little - three tracks from live album by drum 'n' bass band called Phoneheads. I don't know the band, I don't care about them actually, but I really, really like those tracks (as for the whole concert - it isn't the greatest thing ever, but still enjoyable). They are performed by an orchestra and - obviously - the band themselves. One is with vocal, two are instrumental, but all are very "chillouting" and quite nicely done. Especially Maracanenses (cool electronica, very nice strings, awesome timpani interlude). So give it a try. Maybe someone will like it.


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O6I39YO9

And here is trailer for the concert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWhdhiRmOOU

Thanks ever so much for all the music posted here as well as the stories behind them!
The amount of information about the scores and the discussions here keep this place a very interesting one :)
Since I (and probably many people with me) don't know that much about the music here, I'll just download some here and there and see if I like it. I came to realize however, that I have not really thanked you guys and girls.

So once more: Thanks and keep up the good work :)

O-kaaay well I was hoping for more from Lost Planet 2. I remember having much the same reaction to the first. This one IS better, but...still a bit on the bland side. The fact that there's live material in there is nice, but Christopherson really needs to hire a decent percussion programmer so he doesn't have to keep resorting to tired recognizable loops, it's distracting.

Nanase Hikaru - Zettai Shounen OST
MP3|320kbps|150MB|2cd|From Nipponsei|
|Relaxing|Jazzy|Peaceful|Calm|

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/389428142/NH-ZS.rar)
PSW: smile

Also posted in Lossless:
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1384943&postcount=622

This is one of my first soundtracks I heard by Nanase Hikaru and still my favorite. It is such a peaceful soundtrack and has great melodies as well. There are some tracks with chanting with female vocals that are haunting and beautiful. The anime itself sadly has never been released in the US or licensed. If you can find the fansubs of the show to watch, its a very interesting show even though for a lot of the time it seems like one of those shows where nothing happens. Give it a listen and see what you think! Please post comments.

I hadn't picked up on that!

I'm inclined to say it was probably more of an accidental resemblance.

Edit - a further possibility has occurred. If we assume that Scott was making a deliberate allusion here ...

Sorry to butcher your quote! Listening to both of them again, they do sound similar, but I'm leaning over to your accidental resemblance notion. Either way, Scott's work is phenomenal, and this is purely morbid curiosity... For anyone else that is interested, here is a short side-by-side of Don Juan (0:00-0:29) with Philip and Maggie (0:30-end) . I made the Philip and Maggie section so long because the bit i'm emphasizing pops up three times. Hopefully the abrupt switch at thirty seconds doesn't offend... ;)

http://www.mediafire.com/?oyfuvfrmzhn



On a completely different note, I'm just loving the Takayuki Hattori!! I ignored the godzilla score at first, but after listening to it and loving it, I listened to Intelligent Qube again and the others that have been shared (for the first time). I don't remember enjoying his Final Fantasy suite, but I might just listen to it again now that I like his other works so much... Thanks again, shadowonthesun!

On a completely different note, I'm just loving the Takayuki Hattori!! I ignored the godzilla score at first, but after listening to it and loving it, I listened to Intelligent Qube again and the others that have been shared (for the first time). I don't remember enjoying his Final Fantasy suite, but I might just listen to it again now that I like his other works so much... Thanks again, shadowonthesun!

Im glad you are enjoying his music. He is wonderful yet oddly unknown by most people. I did the exact same thing as you for a while, I didn't get around to listening to his godzilla scores for quite some time. On the topic of his final fantasy suite, some people don't like it because it isn't as recognizable as other peoples ff arrangements. It is a wonderfully thoughtful and intelligent take on the material. He took the material and made a lovely new creation out of it. Listen to Scenes V, VI, and VII (the first four were arranged by his father not him). I think you will like it.

For the record I think Romance of the Three Kingdoms V is my favorite of his. :)
Falcom Neo Classic is also incredibly gorgeous though...

Thank you all for V Gundam and Mill on the Floss, they are outstanding.
In return I recently discovered something unique I want to share with you all.



Strings / Guitar / Piano / Action / Drama

Does anyone of you remember the score for Phantom Reqiem for the Phantom ?
This time Composer Nanase Hiraku has outdone himself and composed a score that could easily be used in any Hollywood Action Thriller ala Bourne.
But since this is done in Japan it has a million times more depth and complexity than any american score for a movie like that I can think of.
It is very heavy on strings and uses many Middle Eastern instruments,
there is a certain melancholic feeling to it all and it is also thematic.


CD1 MP3 V0 320kb/s 76 MB 22 Tracks


Download CD1 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ywmjtdodzlm/Disc 1.7z)


CD2 MP3 V0 320kb/s 84 MB 20 Tracks



Download CD2 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/imt2menmdif/Disc 2.7z)


CD3 MP3 V0 320kb/s 99 MB 18 Tracks



Download CD3 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/eejtmtogmi2/Disc 3.7z)


This version of the score has almost all ambience & synth tracks removed (RT: 162 min.) so it is alot more enjoyable than the commercial release.

The Music made the Show CANAAN worth my time and at one point I really thought I was watching a Hollywood movie.
But that aside, I really recommend it. Escspecially fans of Nanase Hiraku's work will find it exciting.

Ah, before I forget ... Beware of Track 21 of CD1 (Your Ears will bleed!)


great post klnerfan~! thx for sharing. just start to listen to it n would love to go thru all 3 albums, just wonder if it's complete... cause the track number n titles are quite different from the data as on amazon.jp, it seems some tracks' missing...
(http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B002ORWGK4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1WBA8J2CE1AHVNHXB35S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376736&pf_rd_i=489986)

@micobear

Yes there are indeed some tracks absend in this version but I can assure you (since I have this as well as the commercial soundtrack) that nearly every track missing is just ambience, synth and pretty forgetable.
So if you look just for the orchestral stuff you will be happy with this version.
But if you're curious to check out the other tracks then try Thread 71635

@klnerfan

Ah~ i see i see~ anyway, hv to thank for your effort again, i hv already gone thru all 3 albums u post, really nice stuffs. i won't spent time on chasing those missing tracks if they're just ambience n syth pieces :D

I have some great news for you all, I had the chance to listen to a few more samples of the new "Wii Blockbuster" Super Mario Galaxy 2 and I can assure you:

It will be fucking AMAZING.

Not only does the game surpass it's predecessor, the music also reaches new hights and beautifully expands the themes and motives from the first game.
The famous Wind Garden Theme (One of my most favorite pieces of music to date) gets even more spotlight and the score will also be far bigger than the previous one.

The only thing I don't know is if there will be a commercial release for it but Nintendo would be a real moron if they would not release a Soundtrack CD (considering the fact that I found SMG to be one of the best musical experiences I've ever had in a game).

Indeed. There's some scores that really deserve a release, that also seem like they'd be viable as a release but never get released...

On a related note, Joris de Man took the first Ivor Novello award for a video game soundtrack on Killzone2. Very well deserved I say, and he did some excellent work there. However, out of the original Killzone and Killzone2- I have to say that the first stood out more and felt more accomplished... but it never received an official/commercial release!

If there's people here that haven't checked out either, I can create a sampler album for those who are interested. KZ and KZ2 are among my most favourite scores, so I really recommend them.

The only thing I don't know is if there will be a commercial release for it but Nintendo would be a real moron if they would not release a Soundtrack CD (considering the fact that I found SMG to be one of the best musical experiences I've ever had in a game).
[Edit - so I'm a bit gullible ;)]

I'm sure there will be an OST considering the success of the first and the amount that Nintendo are promoting this.

Highlights so far for me are Starship Mario (combining the three orchestral variants), Battle Belt, Bowser Jr.'s Fiery Flotilla and Sky Station 1. I'm not going to listen to the ending music and a few of the others because I don't want to spoil the game.

SYMPHONY YS

Tetsuji Honna conducting the King Symphonic Orchestra
Arrangement by Kentaro Haneda
Based on music composed by Yuzo Koshiro, Mieko Ishikawa, Hideya Nagata



MP3-V0 + Scans
http://www.multiupload.com/XHHLZKCIXD


So I've been playing Ys Books I&II on and off for months now, and it's driven home several things: 1 I'm crap at games, 2 I barely have the time to play them, 3 I hate the grind inherent in the rpg genre, and 4, despite all this, I love retro games! :) Ys on the turbografx is a very back to basics experience - to fight you simply walk into the enemies - so it's just right for my level, and the music is rather catchy.

This 'symphony', based on tunes from the first two games, isn't flashy or virtuosic, nor does it disguise its origin as videogame music, but it does stand as one of the more successful, tasteful and entertaining of its breed. It's cast in four movements that vaguely follow the characteristics you'd expect, with a central scherzo-alike and slow movement.

The scans are well worth perusing; the written score for the slow introduction of the first movement, right up to the beginning of the Allegro, is included, and it's fairly easy to follow.

Encoded in V0 from the lossless rip uploaded by Scha. Scans courtesy of VGMdb.

Enjoy!

LOST PLANET�
Music by Jaime Christopherson
Gamrip done by Sectus. MP3 Conversion and cover done by myself.

Yes, JC did a good job with the first game; it'll be interesting to hear what he's done here. I am, however, curious as to how this rip compares to the game's sound test menu (40 tracks, a listing of which can be found on pages 204-5 of the Prima Official Guide (http://anonym.to/?http://www.mediafire.com/?xt2oqkwyekj) L. S. Kennedy was kind enough to share).