Joseph
12-08-2010, 05:35 PM
I don't know what else to say about David Arnold's "Dawn Treader" except it's a terrific, beautiful score.
tangotreats
12-08-2010, 05:42 PM
I don't know what else to say about David Arnold's "Dawn Treader" except it's a terrific, beautiful score.
Glad somebody likes it... ;)
arthierr
12-08-2010, 05:52 PM
I greatly look forward to listen to Dawn Treader tonight. Will post commentaries thereafter. Me likee when there's debate on new scores, especially contradictory debate. :D
Also, thanks a lot for the great stuff posted lately. This thread has become lean and mean again.
tangotreats
12-08-2010, 05:59 PM
Recipe for Dawn Treader:
Begin with one Stargate.
Remove themes.
Remove thematic development.
Remove spirit.
Remove boldness.
Add Harry Gregson-Williams motif.
Add chanting trailer-music choir for "epic" moments.
Add obligatory tribal banging percussion in all action-oriented cues (including a GOD DAMNED DARBOUKA).
Add indistinct sound design instead of melodies in romantic cues.
Boil for 70 minutes. If it sounds like shit, pour in 90 piece orchestra and Nicholas Dodd.
Mix and serve with a big bowl of disappointment.
Cristobalito2007
12-08-2010, 06:16 PM
Recipe for Dawn Treader:
Begin with one Stargate.
Remove themes.
Remove thematic development.
Remove spirit.
Remove boldness.
Add Harry Gregson-Williams motif.
Add chanting trailer-music choir for "epic" moments.
Add obligatory tribal banging percussion in all action-oriented cues (including a GOD DAMNED DARBOUKA).
Add indistinct sound design instead of melodies in romantic cues.
Boil for 70 minutes. If it sounds like shit, pour in 90 piece orchestra and Nicholas Dodd.
Mix and serve with a big bowl of disappointment.
Have to agree here. It is a lot of noise, loudness and partially melodic. We need to give up and accept that only some Europeans and Japanese are writing anything unique these days. I still love Arnold for his ID4, Stargate and (some parts of) Godzilla though. What we have here is a brooklyn whore who lost her heroin. Even his Muskateer is 10 times better than this.
Joseph
12-08-2010, 06:19 PM
I think people speak a little too highly of Stargate. It's a terrific score, but it's not Musical Jesus either. David Arnold has done a lot of great work since then, some of it better. "Dawn Treader" is a big step up from "Quantum of Solace," which I found to be his second worst score after "Die Another Day." Among the tracks I particularly like are "The Green Mist," "Duel," "The Magician's Island," and "Into Battle." The choral work in "Green Mist" reminded me of Jerry Goldsmith's music for the evil Reverend in "Poltergeist II," which was one of my favorite highlights from one of my favorite Goldsmith scores. "Duel" has a nice Ye Old Rennaissance Fair feel to it. I dug the cool, weird percussion in "Magician's Island." And "Into Battle" is simply a rousing action cue, and it appears to be the break-out track of the album among score fans.
Those are the highlights. I'm only on my second listen, so it's possible more of the other tracks will grow on me. For now, I'll say the rest of the music is very pleasant to listen to.
Sirusjr
12-08-2010, 06:35 PM
I agree with spaceworlder. Sure this is not a thematic score but I have given up on the idea of buying modern scores for themes. As long as it is relaxing and has some nice music as here then I am ok. Because I generally like themes that is why I buy golden age scores and even some 80s scores.
tangotreats
12-08-2010, 07:59 PM
I think people speak a little too highly of Stargate. It's a terrific score, but it's not Musical Jesus either.
Agree with that. Speaking for myself, I only quoted it in my recipe to give a rough idea of the sort of soundworld Narnia lives in; not as an example of the greatest score on the whole planet, but as a comparison point.
Stargate will always be mentioned in those tones because Arnold literally appeared out of nowhere with it. It's not perfect, but it is one hell of a debut. :)
Narnia, by comparison, is tired out, jaded Arnold; gone is the wonder, gone is that tangible feeling of "OMFG I AM SCORING AN EXPENSIVE MOVIE!!!" that made Stargate and ID4 so thrilling... In its place, we have modern action score cliches.
I predicted that it wouldn't be terrible, and that it would evoke Arnold's earlier efforts - but that it would make endless concessions to HGW's soundworld and the wider "house style" of Hollywood; that it would be a fun, solid, functional listen but would not stand up to any comparison with Arnold's previous work - or indeed dozens of other fantasy scores written in years gone by.
I think I stand by that. :)
Joseph
12-08-2010, 08:11 PM
That's fair enough, although I don't think his apparent adopting of modern score tropes is a reflection of Arnold being tired and jaded. At worst I'd say he's being pragmatic, and at best I'd say maybe he likes or doesn't mind modern scoring style. For what it's worth, this is his fourth collaboration with this particular director.
hater
12-08-2010, 08:47 PM
soo...How to Train a Dragon wins.Dawn Treader will grow on me with multiple listens but its not one long chain of standout moments like Powells score....Dragon wins in each department. Thematic richness and development, almost no filler music and it certainly does not get boring. The music is always on the move, preparing the next big sequence.And the cd is almost complete.Its simply perfect.
Sirusjr
12-08-2010, 09:07 PM
Eh if I was making a list of best scores of the year HTTYD wouldn't be on it. I would say top three would be 1) Leap Year (Randy Edelman), 2) Wolfman (Danny Elfman), 3) Voyage of the Dawn Treader (David Arnold) 4) Love Happens (Christopher Young), 5) Daybreakers (Christopher Gordon). Dawn Treader does stand out when even such scores as Alice in Wonderland, Alpha and Omega and Legend of The Guardians had themes but I enjoy it nonetheless. It gets knocked down behind the top 2 because those scores had more emotion to them.
Wow Napoleon is way better than previous Total War soundtracks. I would totally buy this if it got an official release.
Thagor
12-08-2010, 10:18 PM
Thanks for this two pieces sanico and Sirusjr :)
Lens of Truth
12-09-2010, 12:38 AM
Guys, should I even bother with Narnia 3? Given that Arnold leaves me cold, I don't even like Stargate, detest the HGW theme, and was never remotely excited by the prospect of the score.. And moreover, every 100mb successfully downloaded must be treated as a rare commodity for me atm.
Sorry this is all rather glum and rhetorical.
There's jaded and then there's Lens :(
Joseph
12-09-2010, 01:02 AM
If you don't have space to spare on your hard drive, and if this doesn't sound like it's up your alley, then you should probably skip it.
Lens of Truth
12-09-2010, 01:28 AM
It's not a space issue - my connection is very temperamental in ways i don't quite understand. Perhaps I've messed up my router settings or something.. but I suspect it's a stealth download limit. The annoying thing is I probably end up downloading more from all the failed and restarted attempts! :/
Thanks to Cristobalito and Sirus for the Hisaishi and Christmas collections! Can't wait to tuck-in!
Edit - Oh and Spacey, you should give Goldsmith's STV another shot. The original album presentation nailed it really, but you get a fantastic sense of how Jerry works and builds little motifs through the complete score. He can take a totally banal little figure and transform it into so many wonderful different things, or make it the whole structuring principal of the piece! Always enjoyed Final Frontier (and it always had fab sound quality) but the La La release has put it up another notch in my estimation.
You've also reminded me I haven't listened to Poltergeist 2 for ages! The Indian burial ground theme - ahhhhh. And Carol Anne's sub-theme, so ethereal and moving.
*Upends books and 'detritus' to find cd*
jacksbrain
12-09-2010, 02:14 AM
awesome!
"One summer's day" breaks my heart each time I listen. It's one of my favourite pieces from Hisaishi.
JOE HISAISHI (AND THE LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA) - Melodyphony - Best Of Joe Hisaishi (Apparently 2010)
Sharing this gorgeous album. Joe Hisaishi has orchestrated beautifully a selection of his works, anime and not anime. I wish western composers could write music like this more often. The LSO, as usual, provide a sharp reading.
1. Water Traveller
2. Oriental Wind
3. Kiki's Delivery Service
4. A Cloud On The Slope
5. Departures
6. Summer
7. Orbis
8. One Summer's Day
9. My Neighbor Totoro
MP3 VBR
Joe Hisaishi - Melodyphony ~Best of Joe Hisaishi~ [2010.10.27] [VBR0].rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/?1s3b35vdc5r8vdh)
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Info
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http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UMCK-1369)
Melodyphony -Best of Joe Hisaishi- Joe Hisaishi [CD] (
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UMCK-9387)
Enjoy!
arthierr
12-09-2010, 02:18 AM
I have to admit, Dawn Treader is a quite a disappointment.
When I first knew that Arnold will take on the next Narnia, I quickly did this simple operation: Arnold (+ Dodd) (- Gregson-Williams) + big fantasy movie = ALLELUIA! But, after some listens, it seems I had too many illusions and too much hope... again.
Not that it's a terrible score, it's in fact way superior to the usual junk Hollywood tends to churn out nowadays, year after year. Some positive aspects include: Nick Dodd's masterful orchestrations and impeccable conducting, as usual with him (I love so much the way he uses piccolos, timpanis and harps, something seriously forgotten in modern scores); some appreciable influences: Horner (the Pagemaster), Elfman (Edward Scissorhands), and a bit of Barry in the romantic parts; and, a FEW nice moments here and there.
But frankly, it could have been SO MUCH better! Arnold has proven himself to be so much superior in the past.
Overall, Dawn Treader is excessively filled with underscore. When I compare it to other great fantasy scores, like Conan, Krull or Willow (or even Stargate in a way), almost EVERY TRACK in them was a highlight, a great musical experience in itself. In Dawn Treader, you only get a succession of bland and boring cues, with occasionally a few standouts moments in-between. Therefore, Dawn Treader ends up being as a whole a rather generic and forgettable score. 20 or 30 years later, people still talk of the great scores I just mentioned and cite them as references, will someone do the same with Dawn Treader in 20 or 30 years?
Even the themes (because there are a few of them) are disappointing, dull, easily forgettable (right now I can't remember one, 30 minutes after my last listen). Of course some of them have been "committed" by Gregson-Williams, but Arnold could have done such a better job here, notably by creating his own great, inspired, memorable themes, specially for this sequel.
The biggest disappointment comes from the action cues: seriously, What was THAT?! Action writing was in my opinion Arnold's biggest strength. Stargate, ID4 and Godzilla, and even the Bond scores, were filled with some terrific, highly impressive action music (the last tracks of ID4 are among my favorite action music ever). But in Dawn Treader, Arnold seems to be... asleep. The action music appears to be mostly a succession of generic ostinati, with some by-the-book "epic moments" in-between. No real thematic / motivic development, no complexity, no virtuosic "roller-coasting" like in most of his previous scores; only generic, repetitive, simplistic, predictable action cues.
So, glass half-empty or half-full? Even though Dawn Treader is quite a disappointment, in a way it's undoubtedly a progress compared to the previous Narnia scores, and in fact to most Hollywood scores released nowadays. So, let's just view the bright side of things and hope that the next Narnia score will be even better, and this time good enough to satisfy us, orchestral-obsessed freaks. ;)
Joseph
12-09-2010, 02:25 AM
Edit - Oh and Spacey, you should give Goldsmith's STV another shot. The original album presentation nailed it really, but you get a fantastic sense of how Jerry works and builds little motifs through the complete score. He can take a totally banal little figure and transform it into so many wonderful different things, or make it the whole structuring principal of the piece! Always enjoyed Final Frontier (and it always had fab sound quality) but the La La release has put it up another notch in my estimation.
I'll give it a try if I'm bored one day, if only because JG does write good music even when the themes are corny.
EDIT:
"Dawn Treader" has one theme that sticks out in my head, and it's probably one of the ones HGW originated. It's a nice floaty little melody, with a childlike simplicity. Can't say I can recite the whole thing note-by-note, but it's something I'll probably find myself randomly humming in an elevator a week from now. It's cool that David Arnold didn't just throw his predecessor's material away, even if he could have written something "better." One of the big problems I had with "Iron Man 2" was how John Debney dumped everything Djawadi did and there was practically no thematic development or consistent musical identity. It's like, in one installment "Iron Man" is rockin' and in the next he's orchestra under a bunch of loud sound effects.
Lens of Truth
12-09-2010, 03:05 AM
Nice review Arthierr. The mention of Pagemaster and Scissorhands as influences has got me very curious :)
I've been playing through Epic Mickey recently and the score has a few nice moments, but mostly treads water with tepid Elfman pastiche, and is sadly all samples; good theme though and some thoughtful suspense. It's ultimately something of a missed opportunity. The 'magical' atmosphere the game is after simply falls flat with synth. Can Disney not afford an orchestra? A few set pieces a la Sonic Colours would've worked wonders.
Anyway, here's an interview with Jim Dooley which covers all the usual ground (guitar, rock background, Take on Me XD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQpyQGEvvDM
But you know what? I think this guy *might* have potential outside of the confines of the Zimmer empire.
Joseph
12-09-2010, 03:36 AM
Speaking of Mickey Mouse video game music, Michael Giaccino wrote some fantastic tunes for "Mickey Mania" in 1995. They should've gotten him for Epic Mickey, but then they also should've made the game 2D with digitized cel animation too. What a wasted opportunity.
JBarron2005
12-09-2010, 04:18 AM
I like the music to Dawn Treader and I'm not disappointed. I mean, this is Arnold's first fantasy epic venture. I know Stargate is sci-fi so it can't be compared to in this style sense. Arnold is a great and talented composer, but he isn't god. I think of Dawn Treader as something new for Arnold and like when we all first tried riding a bike we did perfect wheelies right :P? The point I'm getting at is this isn't normally what he writes for so it is an experiment. I think he needs to write more fantasy epics like this to get more familiar with this style. Then eventually, we might get that wheelie or if we are lucky... a canyon jump ;)! Until then, I shall still rate this in the top five of the best film scores of 2010 hands down. HTTYD is my favorite this year by far and even Mr. Arnold hasn't surpassed John Powell's excellent and flighty score.
Sirusjr
12-09-2010, 04:28 AM
I also think that we should look at what was written and how it sounds not what we were expecting to get. I will be watching the movie this weekend and so perhaps the movie is not the sort that needs a constant action/adventure score. I actually enjoy the underscore we get a lot of in Dawn Treader because we have a modern score that isn't all bombast.
JBarron2005
12-09-2010, 04:32 AM
Siriusjr,
I agree wholeheartedly! I very much like what Arnold has done to bring out the magic in Narnia. It certainly gives my ears a rest from the junk I have been hearing from Hollywood as of late.
Sirusjr
12-09-2010, 07:12 PM
They're here!! 2CD Poltergeist available to order through SAE (FSM release limited to 10,000 copies!) Those of you who enjoyed Tango's post of the LP rip will be happy to see that not only do we get the complete score in stereo on the first disc, but we get the LP presentation on the second disc along with a number of bonus tracks and five cues from a separate goldsmith score! All goldsmith fans should buy a copy when possible although no rush with a limit of 10000 copies.
Joseph
12-09-2010, 07:24 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that the first disc isn't really expanded from the last re-issue, but at least they're printing a lot of copies.
Lens of Truth
12-09-2010, 07:30 PM
Not sure what I think of the sound from the clips. It seems closer to the harshness of the Rhino release rather than the lush LP.
Sirusjr
12-10-2010, 09:50 PM
Luis Bacalov - Il Postino (The Postman) 1995
Romantic/Melodic - MP3 VBR v-0

Download (
http://rapidshare.com/files/436160575/The_Postman.rar)
no psw
As you can see from the cover, there are cues with people reciting poetry. I only wanted the Bacalov music so I cut those out. If anyone really wants them then you can request it and I will post separately.
Sirusjr
12-11-2010, 02:06 AM
Wind Ensemble ''Dragon Quest'' Part
MP3 VBR V-0 - 2010 - Originally posted by Gamemp3s

Download (
http://rapidshare.com/files/436196927/Wind_Ensmb_DQ_PI.rar)
PSW: smile
This is another wonderful arrangement of Dragon Quest music, this time focusing on woodwinds. Huge thanks to Gamemp3s for posting this high quality mp3 version.
Review at RPGAMER (
http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/dq-wind1/index.html)
masterocho
12-11-2010, 04:46 AM
You know, I never realized how relatively young this thread is. Nor have I realized how long I've been haunting it without ever commenting. And I spent a good couple of months lurking around before joining FFShrine just because of this thread!
I've witnessed quite a lot of drama and upheaval and scandal and arguments, but what has consistently filled me with inspiration is how everything reconciles itself as if nothing had transpired. There is a level of respect, intelligence, and talent on this thread that honestly astounds me. The caliber of musical discussion is passionate and insightful, even at its most heated. I've noticed recently that there seems to be some consternation over the state of the thread and its future. From someone standing on the outside, I don't think much has changed. In fact, it has only gotten better. Better discussion, better debate, better posts. It's grown. And in an instance rare among the internet, it's a forum thread that's practically art unto itself. Where each member seems genuinely concerned for its well being and its quality.
I come here every couple of weeks to see what new surprises have arisen, what new artists, composer, performers I'll be introduced to. I cannot begin to count the hours of inspiration I've gleaned from this thread alone. So much music I would have never experienced or taken a chance on otherwise. So many shared experiences. This thread does great things, and I wanted to take a moment to let you all know that.
arthierr
12-11-2010, 10:39 AM
Thank you for your kind words, Masterocho, they're quite appreciated. :) This gives me the opportunity to express a bit of my personal views on this thread.
I agree on the fact that the thread has substantially grown and evolved since its beginning. Everything is now much more mature (as I am myself), and my much better mastery of Shakespeare's tongue (I'm french) now allows me to make much better and longer contributions than before. (In the past I had to think in french then translate in english, now I can think straight in english!)
About the state and future of this thread, here's my position: given the evolution of my personal life, it's become quite harder to be present and participate here like I did in the past, I've already explained that some pages ago. BUT, after some months of "retreat" from here, I realized that 1) I'm totally addicted to this thread, I NEED my daily dose of it, 2) other people seem to be addicted to it as well, 3) I'm attached to the people here, I've got genuine friends in this place, 4) this thread is a bit like my baby, and you DON'T abandon your baby (unless you're an ignoble rascal).
So, it's obvious to me that I just can't go away from here that easily. I can't leave this thread, my friends in this place, the wonderful music posted, and all the stuff you can find here. As far as I'm concerned, even though I won't participate as much as I did before, I'll be frequently there anyway, and try to contribute as much as I can, in a way or another.
I also believe that this thread's existence is important because of its "message". Everybody who has frequented it since long enough know that there are some recurrent opinions expressed here, some rather defined views on the state of film music, and some regular calls for a significant change in this domain. If this thread can have *any* influence, even a tiny one, on the rehabilitation and expansion of orchestral music in film music or anywhere else, then it's meant to be alive and thoroughly fueled.
Sirusjr: wonderful contributions, thanks again!
Vinphonic
12-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Very insightful words arthierr, I absolutly agree with masterocho (I was in his position almost a year ago).
I hope this thread will stand the test of time and prevail. The amount of fantastic music I've dicovered in this thread is astounding.
I still cannot believe that I love a thread on an internet forum so much but I honestly do.
I simply adore music, both as entertainment and as an artform and your thread is now my primary location if I want to share my passion.
(I envy your "mastery of Shakespeare's tongue". I still have much to learn before I can express myself completly (i.e. analyse scores in detail) but at least I'm improving since I discovered your thread ;) )
Here is also something special, a new game for the PS3, looks like ICO/SotC but Multiplayer ?
Anyway, the music is something I would have nerver expected to hear in a game, it seems like we will experience the change of the medium into an established artform in our lifetime, and it comes with a new wave of orchestral music that (most) movies (in the west) have abandoned:
YouTube - The Journey - Debut Trailer [HD] [PS3] (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBxIbx5NkKw)
Cristobalito2007
12-11-2010, 07:29 PM
Wind Ensemble ''Dragon Quest'' Part
MP3 VBR V-0 - 2010 - Originally posted by Gamemp3s
Download (
http://rapidshare.com/files/436196927/Wind_Ensmb_DQ_PI.rar)
PSW: smile
This is another wonderful arrangement of Dragon Quest music, this time focusing on woodwinds. Huge thanks to Gamemp3s for posting this high quality mp3 version.
Review at RPGAMER (
http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/dq-wind1/index.html)
Love this. Thanks. Anything Sugiyama does is legendary and always melodic and gorgeous.
Love Dragon Quest, its got that autumnal tone poem sense to it.
Thagor
12-12-2010, 10:22 PM
Thanks for the Wind Ensemble :)
tangotreats
12-13-2010, 12:03 AM
Every now and again, somebody takes some time out from the music to talk about something just as important, if not moreso; this little community that has conjured itself into existence. With no disrespect intended to previous discussions on that topic, I don't think anybody has really summed it up quite as beautifully as Masterocho just did. I am stunned and delighted with what it has become, and I am proud to have been a part of it from the very beginning. This thread is two and a half years old; it's hard to think back that far, but the Shrine seemed to be the last place on earth where this sort of thread could flourish. I spent a year posting almost nothing; I downloaded what I wanted, said "thanks" and kept my distance. Then Arthierr created this little thread - at the time, to showcase a selection of very specific scores... And suddenly, out of the woodwork, came all these wonderful people who seemed to have been sitting in silence, waiting and hoping, just like I was. The group gets bigger, it gets smaller - people come and go, some stay, some are regular, some show up only occasionally, but that matters not a jot.
This is a place where music, friendship, debate, and discussion all live together in perfect harmony. We have our dramas (and I fully admit to being guilty for creating a number of them) but any musician will tell you that some of the most beautiful harmonies can come from dissonance. Bad stuff happens - so what? We disagree on some point or another - so what? We get caught up in the middle of a wider forum drama and we fear for our future - so what? Just like a big family that bickers and complains but always gets together for Christmas, we know that we're strong enough that it doesn't matter in the end. Your ego may get bruised, but you know that your friends will always extend a hand of reconcillation and empathy for you no matter what.
Sometimes this thread feels like a download repository for the very best of the best music has to offer. Sometimes it feels like a thinktank that shapes the future of orchestral music and has a greater influence on it than any of us really truly appreciate. (Whatever FSM and others have to say, we do have impact and influence.) Sometimes it feels like a political debate - except that all the debaters are courteous and respectful, keep their promises, and respond with humility. Sometimes it just feels like a bomb shelter where you can come and hide, talk to good people about good things, whilst the apocalypse is happening all around you. Most of the time, it feels like all of that rolled up into one. Not bad for a little thread that started off with "Tango Urilla is a great bit of action music - what's your favourite?"
Sometimes the Shrine is hell, but this thread never is. There is something about the atmosphere that it creates - and to thank for that is every single person who has ever contributed to it - whether that be with music, discussion, comments, or even just a friendly "thanks for the download!" - it is all important and it all makes this little corner of Hell the closest to Heaven I think you'll ever get on the internet, of all places.
So, before this starts sounding too much like some dodgy General making a rousing speech to his army before sending them off to get blown to bits by giant murdering spiders... I'll take this opportunity to thank everybody, right from the very beginning of this thread - particularly Arthierr for creating it and thus placing his indelible mark upon it, but also each and every person who has ever given to it... whether they've posted a thousand times or just once.
tangotreats
12-13-2010, 01:50 AM
*** ATTENTION ***
(Yes, this deserves the big font and the red text...) :P
Joe Hisaishi... Ninokuni... 55 minutes of fully orchestral score, performed by a full-sized Tokyo Philharmonic... You want?
Presenting Tangotreats first ever Gamerip... which is only half finished and I am fading fast --- need bed, need it now...
But just so you know I'm not bulls****g you... Here's the main theme to keep you going...
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1MS1IQZR/Joe_Hisaishi_-_Ninokuni__Main_Theme_.mp3
(Quick technical note; this is a direct extraction from the Nintendo DS cartridge; sound is in a bizzare 4-bit format which gives it a slightly harsh quality and a little background hiss. I have not fiddled with anything. This is what's on the cartridge and it's as good as it's going to get until the soundtrack CD becomes available.)
You know it's going to be special just because you see the name Joe Hisaishi... but I don't think anybody was quite expecting it to be as special as it actually is. This might be the score for a game, but this is no game score. This is Hisaishi right at the top; a beautiful, ravishing theme (well, two actually) that is reminiscent of Nausicaa and absolutely everything else that you love about his music. My instant favourite of the year. (Yes, I know it was recorded over a year ago, but it's only just out so as far as I'm concerned it's a 2010 score.)
Enjoy... and look forward to the full rip (to my usual rigorous standards, of course) in 24 hours time.
Joseph
12-13-2010, 01:57 AM
I hope the game is as good as the music.
Sanico
12-13-2010, 02:05 AM
Joe Hisaishi... Ninokuni... 55 minutes of fully orchestral score, performed by a full-sized Tokyo Philharmonic... You want?
Yes Mr.Tango :) Can't wait to hear the rest of the rip.
Doublehex
12-13-2010, 03:47 AM
I suppose with us all going gushy over this thread that I might as well say something. God knows that it has been eons since I contributed anything beyond that measly gamerip of Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer. It might as well be a few words.
FFShrine is something of a city. So many people come by and go, most of them barely even saying a word. They go into stores - or threads - get their McDonalds food - free music - and go by without saying a word gratitude. Some of them may say some word of thanks, but it is quick and to the point, with little hint of sincerity.
This thread, however, is like a Poet's Club. Yes, we share music (both of legal and illegal nature). But it's so much more than that. It is a place for us who sincerely love music - every note, every tune - to talk about it. We can say thanks, but we say it with so much sincerity. We honestly mean it when we say thank you. It's not protocol to us - it's heartful. Every word.
This is a family. Oh, a messed up family to be sure, who barely knows each other names and faces beyond what we show on the site. But I'll be damned if this ain't a family all the same! And this family is a sanctuary from the rest of the site, who thinks so differently from us, who view forums and music in such different ways.
This is a great thing we have. FFShrine may come and go - this thread may someday die - but what we have won't. We'll remember all of those heartfelt posts Tango would post. We'll remember when Mr. Verta would come by and give us ignorant fans some insight into the background behind music. We'll remember what we had, and we'll remember that it was a small miracle in a world that barely has any such things.
This is why this thread is so important, and why it should be cherished.
And that's all I have to say. :)
Sirusjr
12-13-2010, 04:58 AM
Thanks for that sample Tango. Your sample track does sound fantastic and the finished rip should hold us over until the official release.
jakob
12-13-2010, 05:03 AM
Joe Hisaishi... Ninokuni... 55 minutes of fully orchestral score, performed by a full-sized Tokyo Philharmonic... You want?
Presenting Tangotreats first ever Gamerip... which is only half finished and I am fading fast --- need bed, need it now...
DO WANT! I'll be looking forward to this, tango, and the main theme is great :)
masterocho
12-13-2010, 07:01 AM
Joe Hisaishi... Ninokuni... 55 minutes of fully orchestral score, performed by a full-sized Tokyo Philharmonic... You want?
I swear to you, that as I took a bite out of a very large black and white cookie, the opening flourish of this track blossomed from my speakers and it was not until it finished that I commenced chewing. Hisaishi's repertoire of composition has the unique prestige of always tugging at my heart, regardless of how derivative of his anticipated style. He just has a reliable progression of sounds that hit all the right buttons. This, however, promises something a bit grander and more robust than what I'm familiar with hearing. Stirring.
mverta
12-13-2010, 07:18 AM
The thread's interesting in that it contains the full spectrum of tastes... I'm impressed it has managed to stay on the rails, especially given some of the contributions. But mostly, there has indeed been some wonderful music brought to light, the absolute value of which is beyond measure. Long live the thread!
_Mike
Doublehex
12-13-2010, 08:06 AM
The thread's interesting in that it contains the full spectrum of tastes... I'm impressed it has managed to stay on the rails, especially given some of the contributions. But mostly, there has indeed been some wonderful music brought to light, the absolute value of which is beyond measure. Long live the thread!
_Mike
It's not *that* surprising. After all, good music is a language everyone understands.
Cristobalito2007
12-13-2010, 09:12 AM
tangotreats - re joe hisaishi. Yes!
scorelover
12-13-2010, 09:31 AM
Most definitely yes to the Hisaishi, please!
Vinphonic
12-13-2010, 09:39 AM
Marvelous, I think I'm getting a PS3 just for NinoKuni.
masterocho
12-13-2010, 09:48 AM
@Mverta: Mike, I've wondering for something like a year now, is the quote in your signature a facetious jab or did Hans Zimmer actually say that? Haha!
tangotreats
12-13-2010, 10:06 AM
The thread's interesting in that it contains the full spectrum of tastes... I'm impressed it has managed to stay on the rails, especially given some of the contributions. But mostly, there has indeed been some wonderful music brought to light, the absolute value of which is beyond measure. Long live the thread!
_Mike
Oh, welcome back to you, sir! :D
How've you been? :)
mverta
12-13-2010, 10:23 AM
@tango - Just been lurking. Last time I posted, stuff went down I wasn't cool with, so I decided to duck out :)
@masterocho - Yes, Hans actually said that. We were in his office talking when his wife called, and that's how he described to her who I was. :)
_Mike
tangotreats
12-13-2010, 08:30 PM
Well, here it is, folks... The one score of the year to give genuine hope for the future of quality orchestral music... Proof that Joe Hisaishi - after thirty years in the game - is still getting better every time he puts pencil to manuscript. Ladies and gentlemen, it's been two years of anticipation but finally it is here; I give you Ni No Kuni - Shikkoku no Madōshi, formerly known in splendid Engrish as "Ninokuni - The Another World"...
JOE HISAISHI
Ni No Kuni - Shikkoku no Madōshi
The Tokyo Philharmonic Orchestra
orchestrated and conducted by Joe Hisaishi
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/UNH18RNL/JH-NNK.rar_links
Tech notes: My direct rip from Nintendo DS cartridge; LAME -V0 3.98.4. No track titles as I have not played the game and therefore haven't the foggiest idea what is going on or even what it's about
Tracks retain their original cue numbers as they were laid out on the DS Cartridge. Original source audio was in a bizzare 4-bit uncompressed PCM format at 32728khz (yes, I know) and whilst it sounds beautiful, it has a certain harshness about it (common to 4-bit audio) and a minor background hiss that is not in the slightest bit distracting. This is as good as it gets until the soundtrack album or the PS3 version turn up - and it will be at least February before either... so, for the time being, enjoy. Note that tracks 11 and 12 were in a different format and yielded a slightly poorer quality result. Again, not my fault. It's an absolutely wonderful miracle that a game on a handheld console has sound quality as good as this.
This is not a complete game rip; there is a bit more music in the game that is synthesised - and 99% of it is mainly variations on the themes heard herein. This rip includes all tracks performed by live musicians. If this isn't good enough, I'm sure some enterprising person will produce a full every-single-note, every belch, every scrape, every tick, every pop release in due course. Believe me, you're not missing anything. The recordings with the Tokyo Philharmonic total 51 minutes; a very satisfying length on its own and would be somewhat disrupted by the inclusion of every single fragment of sequenced music... so it isn't here. Also, I have dropped the first cue as it was a shortened version of the main theme - I assume that it is perhaps the menu theme - same recording, but edited; serving no purpose and containing no new music, it has been dropped.
Looping: All tracks are designed to loop in the game, but most of them had actual proper endings that were included in the raw audio on the cartridge. This has been preserved wherever possible. Only a handful of tracks are looped; only where a natural finish was missing - these tracks loop and fade out ten seconds into the repeated section. I see so many gigantic game rips that you download and think "Wow, cool, hours of music!" and then you find out that some enterprising idiot has looped each track a three or four times so all those great cues that you think are five or six minutes long, are in fact 90 seconds. I have consciously avoided this; my rip is 51 minutes long, and that's 51 minutes of music. No waste, no repetition - just Hisaishi's score as he intended it.
Oh, my God, where to begin with this one? I genuinely don't think I can find the words - any words for that matter - that would do this instant classic any justice at all. From start to finish, it's purely mesmerising. I wax lyrical about various things from time to time, and you probably think I'm off on one of my flights of fancy again... but really, this is one of those special scores - as Masterocho observed, it captures your attention fully and doesn't return it until the last note has subsided into silence. There's so much to talk about - the breathtakingly beautiful main theme, the breathtakingly beautiful other main theme(!), the glorious action cues, the sumptuously lush orchestration, take your pick... Actually, it seems rather unfair to praise the themes, because effectively the score is one long theme; Hisaishi has never written a note of filler in his life, and that enviable record remains unbroken here. I really can say very little more; other than get yourself a big cup of tea, turn off the lights, and listen to this - like you've never listened before.
:)
Steven McTowelie
12-13-2010, 09:13 PM
Thank you for this. You live up to the third syllable in your name. :)
Sirusjr
12-13-2010, 09:17 PM
Thanks tango :) I am passing around this wonderful rip to all my friends who have a slightest appreciation for Hisaishi :) Hopefully the 1 disc soundtrack listed on VGMDB is all this orchestral work.
I suggest you also post this rip in the video game soundtrack section in its own thread because it deserves it.
Vinphonic
12-13-2010, 09:21 PM
Now I can die in peace ... well maybe after I experienced the music in HQ in the PS3 version, Joe Hisaishi has outdone himself (again), now I have to trust Studio Ghibli and Level5 that they have made a masterpiece as well.
Thagor
12-13-2010, 10:43 PM
Thanks Tango for the Orchestral Score from the DS Game ;)
It�s great Hisaishi Music :)
tangotreats
12-14-2010, 12:23 AM
It is an absolute pleasure. :)
I can't believe I'm the first to rip this thing... I was expecting it to show up within seconds of the game being released (last week) but you know the old adage that tells you what you should do if you want a job done properly. ;)
This score is actually scaring me with its brilliance. I mean, it's Hisaishi - it's going to be good. But this really is something else. They say of composers that when you're young, the melodies chase you - but when you're old, you have to chase the melodies. How is it that Hisaishi is able to seemingly pluck these instantly memorable, beautiful themes seemingly from thin air? Any idiot can orchestrate, but to strip it right back to melodies... that's hard. And to not be afraid of a melody, to have the confidence in them - unlike so many modern composers who seem almost terrified of writing something tuneful. What does he do with these melodies? These wonderful, lyrical tunes that would still sound beautiful if they were played on the kazoo? Plonks them right in the middle of this fantastically lush, warm, vibrant orchestration and then... it feels like he stands back and the themes just do what they love to do - frolic joyously in this great forest of orchestral colour.
But then you just have to look at the man in concert to know where it comes from. A composer, an orchestrator, a conductor, a pianist; he is just made of music. Show me a mainstream Western composer who could do all those wonderful things on their own; to stand up there for two hours and conduct a 200 piece orchestra, a full symphony chorus, a giant marching band, a jazz combo, play the piano - each and every note of which he wrote with his own two hands, and look so genuinely overwhelmed with joy. That's what his music does for me.
Anyway, I digress!
scorelover
12-14-2010, 12:32 AM
Thanks for the Hisaishi - I'm really looking forward to hearing it.
monafam
12-14-2010, 01:09 AM
The thread's interesting in that it contains the full spectrum of tastes... I'm impressed it has managed to stay on the rails, especially given some of the contributions. But mostly, there has indeed been some wonderful music brought to light, the absolute value of which is beyond measure. Long live the thread!
_Mike
I always appreciate your posts. You have the ability to see the music as both a fan and composer, which I know I am not able to do.
How's parenthood teaching you? I've got five of my own and they will keep you on your toes!
Sirusjr
12-14-2010, 01:59 AM
In case these happen to go quick, thought I would post here what we got from new Intrada announcement that would interest this thread.
1) Clash of the Titans - Laurence Rosenthal (Complete 2CD) (3000 copies)
2) Flesh + Blood - Basil Poledouris (Complete 1CD) (2000 copies)
3) ON THE THRESHOLD OF SPACE (Lyn Murray) / THE HUNTERS (Paul Sawtell) (1000 copies)
Check out samples on intrada or screenarchives if you aren't familiar. I only ordered number 3 because I never liked the other two very much.
TazerMonkey
12-14-2010, 02:34 AM
The Hisaishi is wonderful, as always. Very accomplished, yet always with those flowing, warm melodies. Thanks, Tango. :)
It's been a while since I've shared, but today I got a bit of Golden Age goodness...
THE SEA HAWK - The Classic Film Scores of Erich Wolfgang Korngold
(1989 Expanded Release)
The National Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Charles Gerhardt
LAME -v0 MP3 | 10 Tracks | 70:05 | 113.61 MB
1. The Sea Hawk - 15:35
2. Of Human Bondage - 12:24
3. Between Two Worlds - 7:30
4. The Sea Wolf - 7:29
5. The Constant Nymph - 6:02
6. Kings Row - 1:39
7. Anthony Adverse - 4:53
8. Deception - 1:33
9. Devotion - 4:05
10. Escape Me Never - 8:14
This is not quite the same album that was just reissued, which runs a bit shy of 50 minutes; this is the 1989 remaster/reissue supervised by Gerhardt himself; the "Sea Hawk," "Of Human Bondage," and "Between Two Worlds" suites are all expanded from the original program.
I've seen the shorter album shared here, but never this expanded edition. Supposedly the audio quality is superior to the shorter Dolby Surround edition, but I can't personally vouch for that having not heard that issue of this album.
Anyhoo, if you've only heard the shorter version, you might want to give this a spin.
Part 1 (
http://rdrct.com/http://www.multiupload.com/31XKR0DN2F)
Part 2 (http:/rdrct.com/
http://www.multiupload.com/H8F7JXBYMZ)
Pass: tazed
Compressed with 7-zip
Sirusjr
12-14-2010, 02:50 AM
Great to see some Sea Hawk posted. There are soo many re-recordings of that score but it is indeed wonderful. Anyone who hasn't listened to it should grab this one.
Joseph
12-14-2010, 03:58 AM
Another extended edition of "Clash of the Titans"? :-/
Sanico
12-14-2010, 04:08 AM
Thank you so much Tango :)
The music is really wonderful and shine even through a gamerip like this with all the abrupt endings and edits, but it will suffice until the CD release.
The man can create a melody hehe. Love the m10 cue.
Thanks again Tango :D
Edit: m14 reminds me a part of "Disheartened Pazu" from Laputa USA version soundtrack??
Samuel Walters
12-14-2010, 04:13 AM
In case these happen to go quick, thought I would post here what we got from new Intrada announcement that would interest this thread.
1) Clash of the Titans - Laurence Rosenthal (Complete 2CD) (3000 copies)
Nice!
Sirusjr
12-14-2010, 04:16 AM
Another extended edition of "Clash of the Titans"? :-/
What do you mean another? This is the only complete clash of the titans I see on soundtrackcollector. Anyway, even though you and I don't care about this, there are a lot of happy campers on FSM boards who are excited.
Joseph
12-14-2010, 04:23 AM
Oh, it's not a bad score at all, and it's cool they're going to double the runtime. I guess I was hoping they'd tread ground that was a little more unexplored. This score has gotten two releases, with the second adding ten minutes of material that the original LP didn't have.
Sirusjr
12-14-2010, 04:25 AM
Well yeah but this adds way more and is a huge improvement sound quality wise. I agree though, it would be better to release something we don't have yet in any form.
TazerMonkey
12-14-2010, 04:25 AM
I'm ambivalent about the Intrada announcements. Pretty excited for the "Poltergeist" re-release, but my wallet is still recovering from being raped by La-La-Land and the Criterion Collection last month, and it's set to soon take another pounding from ye olde auto mechanic. Next month for Jerry's spooky goodness it is.
JRL3001
12-14-2010, 05:33 AM
Tango! Tango! Tango! Just when I thought I wasn't going to get a new dose of Hisaishi's epic and awesome music. Sir you deliver something I totally forgot he was working on! Just listening to the sample now as I wait for the full work to download. Oh My God man! just WOW! The main theme to Ni No Kuni doesn't let down. Just another reminder of why I love every second of this guy's music
Mr. Mike Verta! Great to seeya again :)
Tazer! Sea Hawk's! Classic, Epic! Always ALWAYS loved this score!!
SO! with all the Hisaishi music, I decided to check up on new projects of his, which, inevitably, leads to checking up on Miyazaki. And what do I see? His new movie in the works for 2012! And a first for him, a sequel.
Porco Rosso: The Last Sortie, which will be set during the 1930's Spanish Civil war (so says the quick bits of information I've been reading)
tangotreats
12-14-2010, 10:39 AM
Miyazaki might be the only director working today whom I trust implicitly to deliver a fine sequel. And having waited for 18 years, you know that this is no cash in; it's because he has something important to say. I admit that when I heard the announcement, my heart sank - but only for about half a second, because then I remembered who is making this film, and the fact that Miyazaki is known for hating sequels so he must have a damn good reason for making this one. It's going to be wonderful. And the thought of Hisaishi taking up his old themes again for a new film (and not under orders from a foreign production company to replace something he already did because it was too subtle!) simply makes me foam at the mouth.
As for Clash Of The Titans... GREAT score, well deserving of a re-release. Previous releases have exhibited appalling sound quality and are both well out of print. There is much missing (half?) from these releases; and I see from Intrada's page that the score proper is 90 minutes, with 13 minutes of extra fluff added in for bonus material. Looking forward to it!
As for Flesh and Blood, another fine score but not one I'll be jumping up and down to get - not yet, anyway... money is tight and like Tazer, my wallet is due for a hit from the fine gentlemen down at the Peugeot dealership next month, not to mention Christmas looming up as well...
I haven't heard of the other one, but I did enjoy the previous Sawtell release, so it'll be worth a look I'm sure.
Thanks for the news updates, Sirusjr! :)
Ni No Kuni gamerip: Abrupt endings and edits? M05a ends a little soon but that's about all. It could've been heaps worse. Well, it actually was - I spent a fair few hours editing each track individually, rebuilding beginnings and endings and even extending the reverberation of the final note on some of them so that it all flowed together. Granted, it's not anywhere near the quality that the soundtrack CD will be, but compared to some of the gamerips out there (which effectively dump all the music tracks from the game untouched into a RAR archive) I think it turned out awfully good. [Note; this isn't bruised ego talking - just letting you know a bit of background and assuring others who may be put off by the fact that it's a Gamerip that it's not as bad as all that... ;)]
Joseph
12-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Porco Rosso is my favorite Miyazaki movie. Can't wait to see where he takes that character next.
Sanico
12-14-2010, 06:59 PM
Tango, about Ni no Kuni gamerip, i'm in fact very happy with it. I know that you worked hard and best you could, under the circumstances, to give us a presentable rip of the music for us to enjoy until the CD release.
Thagor
12-14-2010, 09:33 PM
Oh yeah a sequel to Porco Rosso :)
Too bad it would take so long, but it will be definetly worth the wait ;)
tangotreats
12-14-2010, 09:41 PM
I know everybody's already heard the now-legendary Budokan concert, but here it is again - in a brand new digital DVD extraction by me. (From my DVD, purchased in the Ghibli Museum in Mitaka.)
JOE HISAISHI
Live In Budokan (2008)
25 Years With Studio Ghibli
The New Japan Philharmonic World Dream Orchestra
The Little Singers Of Tokyo
The Ritsuyukai Choir
Masako Hayashi, soprano
Ayaka Hirahara, Mai, Fujioka Fujimaki, Nozomi Ohashi, vocalists
Massed Marching Band of performers from High Schools in Nihonbashi, Tokyo and Kawasaki Prefecture
Et al
My rip - digital extraction from PCM audio track on DVD release - LAME 3.98.4 -V0
Download JH-JHAB.part1.rar from Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple file sharing sites (
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1CLWXDG8/JH-JHAB.part1.rar_links)
Download JH-JHAB.part2.rar from Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple file sharing sites (
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/11NDBJXY/JH-JHAB.part2.rar_links)
How on earth do you describe this concert? One hour and 46 minutes of pure, unadulterated joy. Joe Hisaishi (who also features as a piano soloist) conducts a 200 piece orchestra, 400 piece choir, a marching band of high school children, and a roster of soloists in music spanning his 25 year collaboration with Studio Ghibli, and specifically, director Hayao Miyazaki. From intimate piano solos (performed by Hisaishi, of course) through to grand showpieces for the whole ensemble, it's all here - and all exemplary. If the sheer scale and beauty of it doesn't make you cry, the music certainly will. Absolute glory.
tangotreats
12-14-2010, 10:51 PM
Edit: Who is saying Miyazaki's next film will be Porco Rosso 2? As far as I know that's an unconfirmed rumour and the new film will be announced tomorrow. Miyazaki would like to make it, but that doesn't mean that he will nor does it mean that if he does, it'll be the next film off the production line.
Has anybody else heard anything about this rumbling talk of Studio Ghibli going into mothballs??! I am praying to Dear God Almighty that somebody has taken a poorly translated comment out of context, but it is something along the lines that if their new film The Borrower Arietty doesn't absolutely smash the box office, their contingency plan is to close the animation studio and continue the company only to manage the existing assets. (IE, to sell their old stuff, but not make anything new.)
I know that this is going off topic, but WHAT?! Please tell me they're not even thinking about it...
Joseph
12-14-2010, 11:03 PM
I don't see how that's possible, considering their movies tend to make tons of money in Japan. ("Ponyo" was bigger than "The Dark Knight.")
Then again, maybe it's just Miyazaki's projects that bring in the big bucks? Still, I'd think the revenue from his movies alone would be enough to keep the studio afloat.
Doublehex
12-14-2010, 11:03 PM
If God is in His heaven, I pray that is not the case. Honestly, how could it? Ponyo more than tripled it's budget in revenue, and Earthsea was the #4 highest grossing film in Japan of that year? I find that very hard to believe - by everything that I see, Ghibli is still going strong.
tangotreats
12-14-2010, 11:04 PM
The talk seems to suggest that they will consider closing if Arietty does poorly in the USA. No offense to Americans intended at all, but do Ghibli really give a shit about box office in the USA enough to close down if a film does badly? Obviously, as you say, their target market is Japan and they make ridiculous returns there and in other Asian countries...
Sounds like crap, right?
Edit: Just looking it up - Ponyo made EIGHTEEN BILLION YEN at the box office on a budget of THREE billion. This has to be nonsense.
Joseph
12-14-2010, 11:10 PM
In the spirit of the recent Porco Rosso sequel buzz, I'd say this talk about Studio Ghibli closing its doors *puts sun glasses on* is hogwash.
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH!
Vinphonic
12-14-2010, 11:19 PM
Tango, thanks for the DVD rip of Budokan. I recently purchased it from Japan (arrived with some adorable goodies :)) but I am too lazy to convert it.
The only complain I have with the whole concert is how the giant screen was used. Even on the bonus dvd, where I hoped for a complete screen version in sync with the music I only got some fragments who end abruptly.
That aside I literally had tears in my eyes and was simply overwhelmed by the sheer power of the music, escpecially during the Nausicaa arrangement in glorious 5.1 (you know the part).
And Hisaishi is one cool dude to hang out with :D
Besides, has Saka No Ue No Kumo (vol. 2) already been posted here ? That score also deserves some spotlight.
Doublehex
12-14-2010, 11:35 PM
The talk seems to suggest that they will consider closing if Arietty does poorly in the USA. No offense to Americans intended at all, but do Ghibli really give a shit about box office in the USA enough to close down if a film does badly? Obviously, as you say, their target market is Japan and they make ridiculous returns there and in other Asian countries...
Sounds like crap, right?
Edit: Just looking it up - Ponyo made EIGHTEEN BILLION YEN at the box office on a budget of THREE billion. This has to be nonsense.
It's not just nonsense. It's nonsense's nonsense!
...That makes no sense! Ah well.
masterocho
12-15-2010, 01:03 AM
Tango, I finally got sit down with your Ni no Kuni rip! First, I must say, smashing job! To my uneducated ears it has none of the hallmarks that I would associate with just a game rip. Secondly, what a sweeping score! I am torn between two thoughts: one is that I wish it might have been for a film so that the work could be more specific and narrative, but the other is that, perhaps, that it is a game score allowed for more traditional composing not having to conform to action on screen. It really is an incredibly lush piece of work, even from Hisaishi. The layering of instruments, each complimenting and contrasting with their individual melodies, is the kind of mature composing that calls even the casual listener to attention.
On the instance of Ghibli closing shop on its animation studio: that rumor has been floating around for quite some months now. Realistically, while the studio *does* rake in a lot of revenue from its films, it also has a relatively low output. Like many, smaller, studios they've been known to do filler work on other studio's projects to make up the difference. But just the cost of film production does not equal the cost of running the studio. However, that is not to say there is any truth in the rumor. Just that it is plausible that their circumstances could be more dramatic than you'd expect.
Safely, I'd say that since there hasn't been any clear follow up to the assertion, that it's just a rumor. If Ghibli was actually going under, I would expect to see considerably more press regarding it, as the studio is somewhat monolithic in the animation industry and beloved by a rather large portion of Japan (not to mention the world). :)
Sirusjr
12-15-2010, 01:49 AM
Tango, thanks so much for this version of the Budokan performance. I'm sure your rip will sound wonderful.
I should also point out that I am probably one of the few in this thread who is not a fan of Princess Mononoke soundtrack. The Nausica and Mononoke suites on here do very little for me. Some might even suggest I have no soul. Of course I first watched those two movies at a time when I wasn't really paying attention to music.
CunnilingusConsultant
12-15-2010, 01:50 AM
Thank you
JRL3001
12-15-2010, 05:25 AM
Tango, I said Porco Rosso 2 would be Miyazaki's next project, not Ghuibli's. They have at least 2-3 rather new directors working for them in addition to Miyazaki and Takahata. Arrietty for example was directed by Hiromasa Yonebayashi. Next movie looks like it will be Takahata's The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, then followed by Porco Rosso 2.
The news of Ghibli folding is really worrying me too. I think it's a bit much of an over reaction maybe? I don't think any of their movies have ever really bombed. Arrietty's already done like $106 Million USD in Japan alone and will be coming out in the US theaters in a couple months. So I don't think there will be financial concerns soon.
JRL3001
12-15-2010, 07:03 AM
Tango, thanks so much for this version of the Budokan performance. I'm sure your rip will sound wonderful.
I should also point out that I am probably one of the few in this thread who is not a fan of Princess Mononoke soundtrack. The Nausica and Mononoke suites on here do very little for me. Some might even suggest I have no soul. Of course I first watched those two movies at a time when I wasn't really paying attention to music.
OMG NO SOUL NO SOUL.....just kidding :P To each their own. The Nausicaa suite is my favorite, being my favorite of Hisaishi's scores. But I grew up loving it. Love the music from Porco Rosso too :)
chancth
12-15-2010, 12:11 PM
I'm a huge fan of the Total War games. Up until Empire the music was always full of energy, hard rythms, catchy tunes and periodic influences.
With Empire the music became more "traditional" in style. But unlike many others I though the new orchestral score fitted the game like a glove and I enjoyed the music.
So here is the "sequel" to Empire wich has no offical OST (yet).
Grand / Choral / Action / Strings
Composed by Richard Beddow, Richard Birdsall, Walter Nair and Simon Ravn
Conducted by Nic Raine
Performed by the Slovak National Symphony Orchestra
Download Link (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9YBIN2UA)
MP3 / 320kbps / 54 Tracks
I've included every piece of the score I could find and combined the smaller cues.
Some of the best cues however, do contain voices and SFX.
It's still one of the best scores about Napoleon I've heared and I thank CA for recording the music with an Orchestra instead of using samples.
Thank U very much.As in Battle for Asgard, Richard Beddow, Walter Nair & Simon Ravn did a great job. I didn't noticed some very memorable themes, but as a all , it is really nice. And it would be very interesting to have some of the cues without the voices & SFX
Doublehex
12-15-2010, 03:44 PM
Tango, thanks so much for this version of the Budokan performance. I'm sure your rip will sound wonderful.
I should also point out that I am probably one of the few in this thread who is not a fan of Princess Mononoke soundtrack. The Nausica and Mononoke suites on here do very little for me. Some might even suggest I have no soul. Of course I first watched those two movies at a time when I wasn't really paying attention to music.
You have no soul.
jakob
12-15-2010, 04:00 PM
You have no soul.
Don't worry, I've told him that before :p
Sanico
12-15-2010, 04:46 PM
I should also point out that I am probably one of the few in this thread who is not a fan of Princess Mononoke soundtrack. The Nausica and Mononoke suites on here do very little for me.
Few? Where?? You must be the only one. kidding :angel:
jacksbrain
12-15-2010, 04:51 PM
Ni no kuni is... well, have no words to describe (ok, english is not my first language XD), every single moment of the score reaches my heart!
It's one of the best things (if not the best) I've heard this year.
tangotreats, I owe you a lot!
Cristobalito2007
12-15-2010, 05:15 PM
The talk seems to suggest that they will consider closing if Arietty does poorly in the USA. No offense to Americans intended at all, but do Ghibli really give a shit about box office in the USA enough to close down if a film does badly? Obviously, as you say, their target market is Japan and they make ridiculous returns there and in other Asian countries...
Thats right. I studied Japanese anime and published an article about Ghibli in a journal so its fascinating whats being discussed here. Japan doesn't put that much interest in US sales. It has China, its main market outside of Japan, Korea, Sout East Asia and funnily enough Spain and France are the largest importers of anime and anime music in Europe. John Lasseter was the reason Miyazaki san took more of an interest in US apparently.
tangotreats
12-15-2010, 05:34 PM
Well, there's one statement I'm sure we can all agree on... If Ghibli is wound up, that will undoubtedly be one of the saddest days in the history of cinema.
I think, personally, that the idea of winding up has been put forward just like all ideas are suggested in the world of business. It is an option - not a certainty, or even a likelihood. Closing down is always an option for everything. I expect the conversation went something like this:
A: So, any other business?
B: Yeah - I was thinking that Ghibli could close down.
A: LOL! Not bloody likely.
C: Heh, yeah.
A: Let's all go down the pub. You comin', Hayao?
H: Yeah, yeah, I'll catch you up in a minute - I'm just working on some character designs for Ponyo The Super Ninja.
Somebody transcribed that into an interview and did the usual trick of wrecking the context and missing out various words, so the quotation becomes:
B: Ghibli is closing down.
C: Yes.
And so on, and so on. I suppose it bothers me that it's on the table - not because I think it will happen, but merely because somebody at Ghibli has acknowledged it as one of many possible outcomes.
Certainly, their output is low... but it always has been. Ghibli has not, is not, and never will be a studio that churns out a new movie every few months. The movies they do make are making more money than ever before in the company's history. And, as Jakob observed, you can bet they're doing odds and sods behind the scenes to keep the pilot light on in between films. Taking on Ninokuni is a sign of diversification. I don't think they'll ever become a cheap jobbing animation firm (that would be like hiring a golden Rolls Royce to drive your shopping home from the supermarket) but I do think they'll continue to occasionally shift into projects like Ninokuni.
I'll not worry until I hear that Ghibli's new movie made �2.30 at the box office, or that Miyazaki's next film involves Princess Mononoke and Totoro eloping to Laputa in Porco Rosso's plane for a secretive wedding ceremony presided over by Vicar Calcifer, who turns up in Howl's Moving Castle, with Mei and Satsuki as bridesmaids.
Vinphonic
12-15-2010, 05:38 PM
To my understanding the French are also very productive with animation.
Cristobalito2007
12-15-2010, 05:41 PM
Yep, France is still leading with Czech and Russia in animation production. Anyone think Svankmajer anaimation would be worth seeing? :@
masterocho
12-15-2010, 06:24 PM
A: So, any other business?
B: Yeah - I was thinking that Ghibli could close down.
A: LOL! Not bloody likely.
C: Heh, yeah.
A: Let's all go down the pub. You comin', Hayao?
H: Yeah, yeah, I'll catch you up in a minute - I'm just working on some character designs for Ponyo The Super Ninja.
Somebody transcribed that into an interview and did the usual trick of wrecking the context and missing out various words, so the quotation becomes:
B: Ghibli is closing down.
C: Yes.
And so on, and so on. I suppose it bothers me that it's on the table - not because I think it will happen, but merely because somebody at Ghibli has acknowledged it as one of many possible outcomes.
Hahaha! That sounds about right.
jakob
12-15-2010, 08:41 PM
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but there is a pretty strong quote of a theme from ponyo in m05 of Ni no Kuni about 1:15 in. this makes me wonder if ponyo has a cameo or if hisaishi is just quoting himself.
Edit: you can also hear the trumpets in a descending line at 1:05 in m07 basically quoting "ponyo,ponyo" from the title theme. :) this one is a bit less obvious i guess.
Lens of Truth
12-16-2010, 07:29 AM
I think, personally, that the idea of winding up has been put forward just like all ideas are suggested in the world of business. It is an option - not a certainty, or even a likelihood. Closing down is always an option for everything...
There’s been a feeling of *the end* at Ghibli for years now. From what I understand, it's being considered in the event that they can’t maintain their high level of quality after the eventual departure of Miyazaki. He’s been talking about retirement since Mononoke was in production! It’s a great shame that on the meagre evidence thus far Goro seems not to have inherited the magic touch (but how often does that happen?); Takahata is still going of course, but he’s 75! They’re thinking “better to quit while we’re ahead” rather than go into decline with mediocre output – hence the importance of Arrietty as a litmus test (helmed by younger animator Hiromasa Yonebayashi). Seems bonkers to a western-commercial ‘shit sells’ mind-set I know, but there it is.
Looking forward to downloading your Ninokuni rip this evening. Thank you! :)
Yep, France is still leading with Czech and Russia in animation production. Anyone think Svankmajer anaimation would be worth seeing? :@
If you like surrealism yes. His films are usually hybrid pieces. They're an entirely different kettle of fish to Ghibli!! Check out the Quay Brothers and Jiri Trnka too.
arthierr
12-17-2010, 11:33 AM
This thread goes really fast for me... Thanks for the awesome posts, notably the recent Hisaishi feast (GREAT work, Tango).
Thanks also for the nice comments about the Orchestral thread, guys. And good to hear about Mike Verta again. :)
The thread's interesting in that it contains the full spectrum of tastes... I'm impressed it has managed to stay on the rails, especially given some of the contributions. But mostly, there has indeed been some wonderful music brought to light, the absolute value of which is beyond measure. Long live the thread!
_Mike
Exactly.
That's my point, since the very beginning: to create a thread where orchestral music from *any* source (movie, game, anime, drama, classical, or others) can be represented and appreciated. That makes a LOT of potential contributions, and in the batch, one's likely to be at times disappointed, especially if one has very high standards. Of course we could imagine (as Tango once dreamed of) a thread where only masterpieces are posted, but its content would be a little... limited, and such thread wouldn't last long and reach a large audience anyway. The thread's eclectism is one of its strengths, and notably explains why it "managed to stay on the rails".
Personally, I believe my own taste (in music, at least) is rather balanced. Basically, give me a beautiful composition, some competent arrangements, some tasteful orchestrations, and a good performance by a decent orchestra, and I'm H-A-P-P-Y. A wise saying claims: "The way to happiness isn't only to obtain what you desire, it's also to better appreciate what you own", in other words, managing to find beauty in something you previously judged mediocre and unsatisfying can actually increase your well-being. I try to stick to this philosophy by having reasonable musical (and artistic, and global) expectations. Of course this doesn't mean you have to accept ANYTHING - I never saw the musical beauty in Eminem or Britney Spears' "works" for instance, I suppose it's way beyond me...
dexamir
12-17-2010, 04:56 PM
I've been hunting down Needful Things Score by Patrick Doyle for years. I owned it back in 93, but I wore the disc out. Can you, Arthierr, or anyone here who has access to the score and would like to share help out please?
Vinphonic
12-17-2010, 04:57 PM
My taste in music can be very diverse at times.
Most of the time I listen to the stuff that is usually posted here. Occasionally I listen to Mahler, Tchaikovsky and Beethoven. Sometimes I listen to rock and other genres. But what is so great about (instrumental) music is that you don't always need a huge orchestra (with a skilled orchestrator and composer) to evoke emotion. Sometimes a simple (but honest) musician with talent can achieve just as much in my eyes.
One of my favorite scores of all time is actually Aria (Anime Series) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T1C74bJ4Aw). Just a few musicians and singers with talent were able to pull at my heartstrings more than many big orchestral scores.
dexamir
12-17-2010, 05:26 PM
Never mind, I'm an idiot. Varese Seracrap.
CunnilingusConsultant
12-17-2010, 08:23 PM
I've been hunting down Needful Things Score by Patrick Doyle for years. I owned it back in 93, but I wore the disc out. Can you, Arthierr, or anyone here who has access to the score and would like to share help out please?
I have it on CD but as is it is Var�se Sarabande it is forbidden to share it here regretably
[COLOR="blue"][B]Just returned from holidaying in Japan and got CDs of Japanese classical, anime and film music to share if anyone is interested. I didn’t expect Christmassy weather in Blighty because of so-called global warming, but the snow is much heavier in Tohoku where I was staying.
tangotreats
12-17-2010, 11:39 PM
[Edit: Removed a long response to Yen's post. It was all entirely deserved, but does not fit in with this thread. Yen's Minidisc will be returned to him tomorrow morning. I have no wish to speak to him any further on any topic, and no wish for this discussion to continue in this thread or elsewhere. Peace, gentlemen.]
arthierr
12-18-2010, 12:31 AM
Yen: please go about this kind of affair by PM, and then, only if you can't get any answer, eventually try asking directly in the thread. I'm a little embarrassed to see this kind of personal muddle displayed in the thread, which is not meant for that.
That said, and once you two have settled this thing, I would be quite pleased to see what riches you could have brought from Japan. :) Don't hesitate to treat us with your personal choices if you're in the mood to do so.
tangotreats
12-18-2010, 12:34 AM
[Edit: Removing this; not fair to conduct this business on the open forum.]
arthierr
12-18-2010, 12:38 AM
No problem. I took notice of your "dirty laundry" remark, so my message wasn't aiming at you. :)
Sirusjr
12-18-2010, 01:23 AM
Tango, while I can see that it appears to you as if Yen's post required a response, I highly doubt that any of the loyal visitors to this thread would believe some attack on your character by someone who hasn't even made that many posts. You might want to edit your reply just a bit so it doesn't contain as much personal things.
tangotreats
12-18-2010, 01:28 AM
I did; and ironically before I saw your post!
I would just like to go on record to say that I didn't chose to make it personal; Yen did. I believe in fighting fire with fire and did so accordingly. However, as a firefighting tool it is rather useless as all you end up with is more fire... ;)
He's getting his Minidisc back and frankly, after what he wrote I have absolutely no desire to pursue a friendship - online or in real life. His property (which is effectively worthless without the remastering work I was undertaking) will be mailed out first thing tomorrow morning and then our business is concluded. I have real friends on this forum and specifically in this thread, and accordingly I shan't be losing any sleep over this nonsense.
Yen; from where I stand, I was the genuine one, and you weren't. That saddens but doesn't surprise me; you're not the first person I have misjudged, and you certainly won't be the last. To be perfectly honest, I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about going to the concert but I went anyway because I was looking forward to making a new friend. A loss, but one I can absorb (with absolutely no pleasure) in the knowledge that perhaps you (or your partner) didn't deserve that friendship in the first place.
arthierr
12-18-2010, 01:54 AM
Come on, let's move on with good music. :)
I just randomly discovered this, and it sounds pretty good. Giacchino supplies here a very old-school superheroic score, much influenced by John Williams' style. It's amusing to hear how much he submits his main theme to dozens (hundreds?) of compositional and orchestrational variations! This kind of strongly thematic and skillfully written score seem to be long gone from Hollywood - reason why I post it here!
Michael Giacchino
Sky High Complete
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Faleel
12-18-2010, 02:26 AM
Chasing Rockets - Superman The Movie (2-Disc) - John Williams
The Battle of The Pelennor Fields - LORD OF THE RINGS The Complete Recordings - Howard Shore
Seizing The Spirit of Adventure - Up! - Michael Giacchino
Battling The Green Death - How To Train Your Dragon - John Powell
Isaias Caetano
12-19-2010, 06:33 PM
Chinese Orchestral Works played by the Shanghai Philharmonic Orchestra under CAO Peng, April 1993, Shanghai, China.
Copied from my CD, MP3-320. Track 10 is my favourite - a charming bolero.
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01. HE Luting �Evening Party� 1:54
Originally a piano piece composed in 1934 under the title of New Year Celebration. In 1940, He Luting arranged it into an orchestral piece, which was broadcast to the Soviet Union and was much appreciated. Then in 1943, the composer revised it. In 1949, he arranged six of his compositions into an orchestral suite, with Evening Party as one of its six movements. Just as the title implies, the piece describes people celebrating victory jubilantly at the evening party. The whole piece can be divided into six parts, with the later three parts repeating the former three. In the third part, the composer ingeniously introduces the rhythm of Chinese folk percussion.
02. HE Luting �Senjidma� 2:46
Composed in 1945 with a Mongolian folk song of the same theme as the material. Senjidma is the name of a legendary Mongolian girl. In 1949 the composer arranged it and five other pieces, including Evening Party, into an orchestral suite. In this piece, the composer developed the original folk-tune by means of polyphony and colourful orchestration. The whole piece can be divided into two parts. The first part is slow and tranquil just like the boundless grassland. The second part is a repetition of the same folk-tune. However, by accelerating the tempo and changing the orchestration, the piece creates a joyous festive atmosphere.
03. HE Luting �Rebirth in the Mountains� 5:10
Was originally a section of the score the composer wrote for the drama, The Siege of Qinyuan, during the War of Resistance against Japan. The drama describes the people in the country town of Qinyuan, who, with the help of the Eighth Route Army led by the Communist Party of China, concealed everything the enemy could eat or use and retreated into the remote mountains when faced with the invasion of the invading Japanese. The enemy entered the town, but could find nothing to live on and therefore had to withdraw from the town. Finally, the people triumphantly returned to their homeland. The piece is made up of five parts which are linked into a continuous whole: 1. Mountain Scene; 2. Rebirth in the Mountains; 3. Calm Forest; 4. Guerrillas and Civilians; 5. Epilogue.
04. HE Luting �Flute at Night in a Desolate Village� 3:59
Was originally a section of the composer's film score Spring has Arrived written in 1937. The passage was composed in the form of a duet for the flute and the English horn. Later, the composer arranged it into an independent orchestral piece.
05. HE Luting �Great World� 3:01
In 1937, at the invitation of the Star Film Company, the composer wrote scores for a number of films such as Spring has Arrived, Crisscross Streets and Street Angels. Later, he extracted a number of splendid sections from the scores and arranged them into independent orchestral pieces. Great World was one of them. It was originally an instrumental episode in the film Street Angels.
06. HE Luting �Overture� 3:28
Composed in 1935, Overture was originally a prelude to the drama Wu Zetian. The overture took the form of a quintet for piano and strings, and was entitled Buddhist Music. The composer drew material from Buddhist music, Mu Lian Rescuing Mother, for the overture. This is based on the fact that Wu Zetian, the famous empress of the Tang Dynasty, had been a Buddhist nun before she mounted the throne. Later, the quintet was arranged into an orchestral piece with the title of Overture.
07. DING Shande �Variations on a Chinese Folk Theme� 6:33
Was originally a piano piece of the same title composed in the spring of 1948, when Ding Shande was studying at the Paris Conservatoire. The theme came from the music score of a Tibetan folk-song his friend had given him as a present before the composer went abroad. The whole composition is made up of the Tibetan theme and its five variations. It is China's first set of piano variations on a folk theme. Sometimes the music sounds as graceful as a poem, and sometimes as colourful as a picture It conveys the composer's nostalgia for his motherland during his stay in France. Later, the composer orchestrated it.
08. DING Shande �Variations on a Xinjiang Folk Tune" 12:24
Variations on a lively folk-song widely popular in Xinjiang as its theme. In the form of free variation, the piece is made up of a theme and its five variations.
09. DING Shande �First Xinjiang Dance� 5:10
Was originally a piano solo composed in 1950. The musical material was taken from the music of a Xinjiang dance performed by Dai Ailian, a renowned dancer. The composition consists of three parts. The first part is a cheerful and lively dance, the middle part sounds a deeper note, while the closing part is a recapitulation of the first part with some modifications. This piece is an excellent example of the combination of the Chinese folk-tune with occidental harmony. It was later orchestrated by the composer.
10. DING Shande �Second Xinjiang Dance� 5:52
Originally a piano piece, composed in 1955. Ding Shande has great interest in Xinjiang folk-songs and has repeatedly drawn materials from them for his various forms of compositions. The music is exquisitely lyrical and unrestrainedly ardent. By combining a variety of chords, modality and tonality, it expresses the Xinjiang people's happy life, full of song and dance. The Soviet conductor, Zhilichyev, who was giving lectures in China from 1957 to 1958, showed such interest in the piece that he orchestrated it.
11. HUANG Zi �In Memoriam� 13:08
The single-movement overture In Memoriam, in sonata form, was Huang Zi's graduation piece when he finished his studies at the Music School of Yale University. It is also China's very first grand symphonic orchestral work, winning international acclaim in the history of Chinese music. The piece was finished on 13th March, 1929, and was successfully premiered at the graduation concert of Yale University on 31st May of the same year. Huang Zi composed In Memoriam in commemoration of Hu Yongfu, his friend. The music is imbued with a strong romantic flavour and a touching tragic colour.
12. HUANG Zi �Metropolitan Scene Fantasia� 2:13
Originally composed by Huang Zi as the title score of a progressive film, Metropolitan Scene, which was co-scored by Huang Zi, Zhao Yuanren and He Luting in 1935. This fantasia reflected the composer's democratic spirit and his sense of national justice. In addition, the composer made some exploration of orchestral technique.
Total Playing Time: 1:05:38
Agrade�o ao YEN pela beliss�ma postagem.
Eu conhecia Tan Dun, mas esta p�gina � encantadora
Isaias
Hi. if you guys do not mind, I would like hear some opinions on "Yanni Live at the Acropolis"
Sanico
12-20-2010, 06:29 PM
Blizzard
Music composed by Mark McKenzie
21 Tracks @ VBR -V0 (Extreme)
http://rapidshare.com/files/438292198/Blizzard.zip
You know it's that time of year again, and this is my Christmas gift to my fellow shriner friends, the soundtrack of Blizzard written by Mark McKenzie.
The music is wonderful and thematically varied, making it highly enjoyable to listen. The orchestrations are rich and colorful, capturing the spirit of Christmas but without falling into the typical clich�d sound territory of the season.
Enjoy and Merry Christmas :)
Sirusjr
12-20-2010, 06:58 PM
Very nice share, I agree it is a good listen and fun timely music :)
Joseph
12-20-2010, 08:16 PM
I thought you guys might be interested in this…
A friend of mine recently introduced me to a music app called AIMP. (Or "AIMP2" to be exact.) It's essentially an alternative to WinAmp, iTunes, Windows Media Player and the like. It's much lighter on RAM usage than any of those programs, and it has basically the same features. More importantly, it seems to handle gapless playback very well. I've played a number of gapless tracks on this thing and I've never noticed any of the awkward "pops" one tends to hear on other music apps. If you haven't checked out, give it a try.
Thagor
12-20-2010, 10:36 PM
I must agree with Sirusjr about Blizzard ;) :)
Isaias Caetano
12-23-2010, 02:50 AM
N�o conhecia Jim Parker.
Fant�stico se aplica muito bem
arthierr
12-23-2010, 09:49 AM
Blizzard
What a lovely seasonal attention, Sanico. Thank you and happy holidays!
I thought you guys might be interested in this…
A friend of mine recently introduced me to a music app called AIMP. (Or "AIMP2" to be exact.) It's essentially an alternative to WinAmp, iTunes, Windows Media Player and the like. It's much lighter on RAM usage than any of those programs, and it has basically the same features. More importantly, it seems to handle gapless playback very well. I've played a number of gapless tracks on this thing and I've never noticed any of the awkward "pops" one tends to hear on other music apps. If you haven't checked out, give it a try.
I just tried it. Very good so far. Dunno if it's an impression but the sound seems better than Winamp. And the possibility of using Winamp's DSP plugins is a big plus. Promising!
CunnilingusConsultant
12-23-2010, 11:59 AM
First, I want to say thanks to all of you guys, for all this great music you upload here:) It's an about time for me to contribute with something nice. Hope you will find it interesting.
K�nig der Letzten Tage (A King for Burning) soundtrack
composed by Wojciech Kilar
320 kb/s
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Great TV score and wonderful playing by the Prague Philharmonic. Many thanks!
Vinphonic
12-23-2010, 02:56 PM
Merry Christmas everyone. Thanks for all the recent shares.
I will return next year with more orchestral works for you all to enjoy.
happy holidays !
Merry Christmas everyone. Here are some beautiful orchestral Chinese melodies I found from a site in China. The English titles are just a rough approximation. Thanks to everyone for your wonderful shares and introducing me to lots of new music and for the interesting discussion.
English title: Must Burn � Fever Edition
Original Chinese title: 絕燒 - 發燒版
Played by: China Central Symphony Orchestra
Year CD issued: 2006
Format: MP3-320
Track list:
01. 不了情(小提琴) Endless Love (violin)
02. 再回首(長笛) Looking Back (flute)
03. 千言萬語(小號) A Thousand Words (trumpet)
04. 玫瑰三願(女聲) Three Wishes of a Rose (female)
05. 花非花(雙簧管) Claustrophobia (oboe)
06. 愛在深秋(小號) Aizaishenqiu (trumpet)
07. 小城故事(小提琴) Small Town Story (violin)
08. 月亮代表我的心(雙簧管) The Moon Represents My Heart (oboe)
09. 在銀色的月光下(長笛) In the Silver Moonlight (flute)
10. 小雨中的回憶(小號) Memory of the Rain (trumpet)
11. 月亮河(雙簧管) Moon River (oboe)
12. 秋來秋去(女聲) Autumn to Autumn (female)
13. 明月千里寄相思(小提琴) The Moon Far From Acacia (violin)
14. 送別(小號) Farewell (trumpet)
15. 牧歌(大提琴) Pastoral (cello)
16. 在水一方(小提琴) By the Water�s Edge (violin)
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Sanico
12-24-2010, 04:34 AM
I will not be here until Monday, so i take this opportunity to wish to every friend of the orchestral thread a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!
Sirusjr
12-24-2010, 06:01 AM
Merry Christmas to all my friends in this thread as well! I may be posting less frequently between January through July of 2011 but only because I will be very busy. I will post when I can though :)
Thagor
12-26-2010, 09:02 PM
Merry Christmas to all
I�m looking dorward to the next year :)
KBABZ
12-27-2010, 06:54 AM
Hey guys, relative newbie in here. I know this isn't a request thread, but I'm looking for the Back to the Future Intrada Soundtrack that was released last year that I only found out about today. I'm sure it must have been posted somewhere in this thread, but I can't for the life of me find it. I'm on a bit of a time limit since I leave for a holiday to America in two days, and I'd like the music to still me over on the plane trip. Preferably I'd like it in MP3 since "Large FLAC files" and "Crappy Expensive New Zealand Internet Service fit for a 3rd World Country" don't mix together, as do "FLAC" and "un-hacked PSP", but I'm open for options since I can just convert it after.
Thanks for any and all help.
Amanda
12-27-2010, 07:29 AM
I can get that to you in a half hour or so. I will pm you.
---------- Post added at 11:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:55 PM ----------
Hey guys, relative newbie in here. I know this isn't a request thread, but I'm looking for the Back to the Future Intrada Soundtrack that was released last year that I only found out about today. I'm sure it must have been posted somewhere in this thread, but I can't for the life of me find it. I'm on a bit of a time limit since I leave for a holiday to America in two days, and I'd like the music to still me over on the plane trip. Preferably I'd like it in MP3 since "Large FLAC files" and "Crappy Expensive New Zealand Internet Service fit for a 3rd World Country" don't mix together, as do "FLAC" and "un-hacked PSP", but I'm open for options since I can just convert it after.
Thanks for any and all help.
you have mail...
KBABZ
12-27-2010, 07:31 AM
Thank you SOOO much! Will stick in the licensed music from the original Album to make a sort of Master Playlist of the movie. Carry on, everyone!
manitou1998
12-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Happy New Year, everyone! Thanks for all the great shares :)
JRL3001
01-02-2011, 10:29 AM
Hope everyone's having a great start to 2011!
arthierr
01-03-2011, 09:18 AM
Happy new year everybody, best wishes, and a lot of great music to come!
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Thagor
01-03-2011, 08:50 PM
Happy new year to all of you from me too :)
And nice picture arthierr ;)
Lens of Truth
01-04-2011, 03:55 PM
Happy New Year all! Here’s to a great 2011 of musical discovery :)
Having said that, here are a couple of known quantities that I promised I’d upload a while ago (thanks for your patience!):
RANDY NEWMAN - A BUG'S LIFE
(Oscar Promo)
MP3-V0
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Newman's best score for Pixar IMO. I've included two bonus tracks: the album version of "The Flik Machine" and the indispensable "Bug's Life Suite". Enjoy!
GOTTFRIED HUPPERTZ - METROPOLIS
FLAC
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jacksbrain
01-05-2011, 01:03 PM
@lens:
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hlydeck
01-05-2011, 07:10 PM
I'm relative a newbie on here and I want to say thank you for introucing me to so many composers I that I didn't know I was missing. Having this community is truly a great gift to those of us who are starting to just explore this genre of music. It has also helped to have the inputs of the users on this specific thread as to new remasters of other soundtracks and other music I already thought were good that I would otherwise not be aware of. Thank you so much everyone for contributing your time and effort on this thread. It is truly appreciated by me!
Vinphonic
01-05-2011, 08:56 PM
Happy New Year !
Here is something I wanted to post for quite a while now. It is a music collection of the very best orchestral tracks from World of Warcraft. There are over 1000 music files for this MMORPG so I thought it would be a good idea to select the tracks that stand out and to remove unnecessary ambient tracks. The whole package consists of music from all soundtracks and gamerips. I was shocked how much good music was absent from the offical releases and I was also not pleased with the way some tracks were arranged (with SFX). But the music deserves some attention as it is among the best in this genre. It is a bombastic score with some somber moments ("Invincible", "Lament of the Highborne", "Dragonblight Night", "Storm Peaks", "Westfall").
I escpecially like the variations of the Uldudar Theme ("The Shattering", "Ironforge", "The World has changed", "Titan of Ulduar").
World of Warcraft: Music Collection
Blizzard Entertainment
Composed by Russell Brower, Derek Duke, Glenn Stafford, Neal Acree
Download Part A (
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vbu8tdhiae5hpdm/World%20of%20Warcraft%20-%20Music%20Collection%20%28A%29.7z)
MP3 / 160~320kbps / 40 Tracks
Download Part B (
http://www.mediafire.com/file/pgt3dhm9h9m85o5/World%20of%20Warcraft%20-%20Music%20Collection%20%28B%29.7z)
MP3 / 160~320kbps / 40 Tracks
Download Part C (
http://www.mediafire.com/file/7u3rxd6j6uhqsjq/World%20of%20Warcraft%20-%20Music%20Collection%20%28C%29.7z)
MP3 / 160~320kbps / 20 Tracks
I do not play this game so I have no clue in what order the tracks are used ingame.
Enjoy
ShadowSong
01-05-2011, 08:59 PM
Everyone should listen to Metropolis. It is absolutely wonderful.
Thagor
01-05-2011, 09:02 PM
Thanks for this kinerfan
It�s good as always ;)
And i must agree with shadow about Metropolis ;)
Faleel
01-05-2011, 10:12 PM
Going After Dooku from the complete score: YouTube - AOTC Unreleased Music: Going After Dooku (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQx7-HtGMxw)
Honored General
01-09-2011, 10:00 PM
The Sword And The Sorcerer
Composer:
David Whitaker
Released in:
1982
Country:
United States
Super Tracks STCD 884
TSatS.zip (
http://www.mediafire.com/?lmbud7wesakwdpx)
Phideas1
01-10-2011, 01:24 AM
Meatballs are kinda tasty:D. But i'm not here to eat, I'm here to share;).
I've got for you Cantata for Freedom by Jan A.P. Kaczmarek. It's a piece written to celebrate twenty-fifth anniversary of the Solidarność/Solidarity movement (it was actually in 2005, but I somehow forgot about this score). As for my knowledge it was never commercially released (or I missed it) and the only recording I've got is live one from pre-premiere in Gdansk (or at least I think it's that one) so the quality isn't perfect, but not bad at all.
The piece itself is a huge contemporary classical work for choir, solists and - of course - orchestra (all together more than 200 performers). Consists of five movements and lasts about 30 minutes. Sometimes it's dramatic, sometimes sad, sometimes full of pathos but always very interesting, melodic and just great. And underneath it all - at least for me - there is a lot of hmmm... hope. So grab it if you are interested:).
Cantata for Freedom by Jan A.P. Kaczmarek
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MUL9EAOV)
Kaczmarek should always be given attention, looking forward to hearing this. I went to great lengths to collect him some years ago before prices went up after his Oscar for FINDING NEVERLAND.
Isaias Caetano
01-10-2011, 05:45 AM
Yen s� faz belas postagens, esta Must Burn � Fever Edition � o m�ximo,
Obrigado
Feliz 2011
Rad�Max
01-11-2011, 08:04 AM
Anybody here had the K-20 Score Soundtrack by Naoki Sato?, can i request please...
scorefun
01-12-2011, 09:57 PM
Everyone should listen to Metropolis. It is absolutely wonderful.
What about his first score to "Die Nibelungen" (1922-1924) ???
Take a look :D
Thread 84738
Vinphonic
01-16-2011, 01:51 PM
Casshern SINS -Complete Score-
Melancholic / Thematic / Dramatic
Download Link (
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ta2e8v8xhi9kpw8/Casshern%20SINS%20-Complete%20Score-.7z)
MP3 / 160~320kbps / 32 Tracks / ca. 72 Minutes
Composed by Kaoru Wada
Vocals by Nami Miyahara & Otoya Kichiemon
Sirusjr
01-16-2011, 09:20 PM
Well I spent a while going through VGMDB upcoming releases and thought that I should share my findings with the people of this thread.
We have upcoming quite a few albums of interest: (each one links to VGMDB)
- MYTH - The Xenogears Orchestral Album (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22515) - February 23, 2011 - Yasunori Mitsuda - orchestral arrangements of Xenogears themes
Ni no Kuni: Shikkoku no Madoushi Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/21993) - February 9, 2011 - Joe Hisaishi - Rip was posted earlier by Tango. Hopefully this will contain all the orchestral music.
THE LAST STORY Original Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22773) - February 23, 2011 - Nobuo Uematsu soundtrack to upcoming Wii game. It is unclear what style of music he will use but I am hopeful it will be something near as good as Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey.
Senjou no Valkyria 3 Original Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22542) - February 23, 2011 - Hitoshi Sakimoto and Basiscape - unclear if he will finally use an orchestra, probably another synth ost.
STAR DRIVER Kagayaki no Takuto Original Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22939) - February 23, 2011 - Satoru Kousaki - Only included in the limited editions of DVD/Blu-Ray
Soukyuu no Fafner HEAVEN AND EARTH Original Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22930) - February 23, 2011 - Tsuneyoshi Saitou - Soundtrack to new Fafner movie, trailer suggests it will use the same themes and hopefully same orchestra as the soundtracks to the series.
STAR DRIVER Kagayaki no Takuto Original Soundtrack 2 (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22940) - March 23, 2011 - Satoru Kousaki - Also a pack-in with limited edition dvds.
Vinphonic
01-16-2011, 10:37 PM
So Star Driver will not get an offical standalone OST, what the hell ?
Well, at least I can spent my money on Ni no Kuni and Fafner (if it's just as good as the TV score).
Definetly looking forward to the rest.
@Lens of Truth: Finally listened to Metropolis in FLAC, it was glorious, thank you
Sirusjr
01-16-2011, 11:07 PM
I suspect Star Driver will get a stand-alone release eventually. The only real precedent we have is the Tower of Druaga scores by Sakimoto that were originally released as pack-ins and later released as a two-pack with both scores. They are doing the same thing with Yuki Kajiura's Kara no Kyoukai garden of the Sinners that had short scores with each of the DVDs and now is getting a 2 disc release.
hater
01-17-2011, 02:54 AM
Joe Johnston plus Micheal Giacchino for Captain America-The First Avenger....new Rocketeer?
Joseph
01-17-2011, 02:58 AM
Joe Johnston plus Micheal Giacchino for Captain America-The First Avenger....new Rocketeer?
Is that confirmed? Because if it is… HELL YES!
tangotreats
01-17-2011, 03:02 AM
Sirus: Thanks! I didn't know about some of those. I really don't like this new, increasingly present technique of OST sales in Japan - package it with the DVD. Since I'm barely interested in 99% of this stuff other than for the music, combined with the outrageous prices they are asking for DVDs (�60 for a 50 minute episode of Break Blade - WHAT? I love Yoshihisa Hirano, but not that much.) pretty much means I will not be buying them. Granted, most of them are turning up eventually as individual albums, but is this the beginning of the end? Or is it just another Japanese marketing tactic?
Fafner has been on my radar for some time. If they put the effort in as they did with the TV series, this could be our first big Warsaw score of the year... with Akira Senju's FMA Brotherhood movie score coming up later on in the year, that'll be the second. 2011 isn't looking too shabby so far.
Hater: Nah, just another soulless pastiche Giacchino disaster... It'll be another Star Trek, possibly with a bit of Sky High bounce, but it'll be nothing to compare to The Rocketeer. :(
Joseph
01-17-2011, 03:11 AM
I don't get why video game companies and niche music labels don't embrace digital distribution. It's clear no one wants to pay $60 for a DVD/CD combo or $30 to $50 for CDs in this day and age, especially in this economy. Just hand everything to the digital wizards at Amazon.
tangotreats
01-17-2011, 03:13 AM
The Japanese are nuts. You can't even get this stuff on iTunes. For all the technological advances, if you want to listen to music, you have to buy a CD. Bizzare.
hater
01-17-2011, 03:22 AM
First...almost every Joe Johnston Movie has a good or great score...i don�t like Jumanji...don�t know why...
Second...Star Trek...that was JJ Abrahms. Has a certain sound all of their collaborations.
Sky High is wrong for the movie....Medal of Honor is the sound this movie needs. He could even lift his Nazi-Theme directly, wouldn�t hurt.Best Case...new MoH Style Score...Worst Case...G.I.Joe Style.
For Thor i predict something like Eragon or Last Legion with modern stuff inserted...both score very soulless IMHO.
tangotreats
01-17-2011, 03:27 AM
First... Johnston isn't scoring it - Giacchino is. Johnston has directed ten movies in over twenty years and four of them were scored by James Horner, one of them by Don Davis based on John Williams' themes, one by James Newton Howard (which bored me to death), one by Conrad Pope and Danny Elfman (which also bored me to death,) and what else? Not really much to build a reputation upon...
Second... True, although Trek seems to be somewhat representative of Giacchino's current style - and I don't like it.
Captain America will never get a MoH score, as much as it needs one. I wonder if Giacchino can still address that sort of Williams pastiche any more. Somehow he'll find a way to avoid writing out-and-out shit, but you know and I know and everybody else knows (inside, even if I'm the only person who'll admit it out loud) that it'll be forgettable, and even if it's vaguely memorable it will still completely fail to stand when compared to other scores in the genre.
I'm not being a misery on purpose or out of spite... just being a realist. :)
Peace
TT
Joseph
01-17-2011, 03:29 AM
I don't have high hopes for "Thor" as a movie, but I'm hoping Patrick Doyle at least does something cool with the music. I admired his work in "Hamlet" and "Gosford Park."
EDIT:
I think the last thing "Captain America" needs to be is MoH. Something like "Indiana Jones" would be a much better fit.
And two years later, I still find myself humming the music from "Up." :)
tangotreats
01-17-2011, 03:32 AM
Indeed... there are worse choices than Doyle. I just hope he doesn't decide to do as Hater suggested and rehash Eragon... Wasn't Ilan Eshkeri on Thor once upon a time, or did I imagine that?
Joseph
01-17-2011, 03:34 AM
I do recall some other composers being rumored/considered for "Thor" early in its production. Also, I didn't know Doyle scored "Eragon." Ruh-roh?
hater
01-17-2011, 03:47 AM
I don't have high hopes for "Thor" as a movie, but I'm hoping Patrick Doyle at least does something cool with the music. I admired his work in "Hamlet" and "Gosford Park."
EDIT:
I think the last thing "Captain America" needs to be is MoH. Something like "Indiana Jones" would be a much better fit.
And two years later, I still find myself humming the music from "Up." :)
The work with Brannagh brings the best out in Doyle, even if the movie is shit (Its alive!), but i don�t feel much energy in Doyles Popcorn-Movie Scores. Even Goblet of Fire doesn�t feel 100% right.Somethings missing.
As for Cap, it should be a mixture of Indy Adventure and Bond Gadgets.And the best chance of all Marvel Movies for the big Superhero Score (spiderman 3 was great musically speaking)
---------- Post added at 08:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 PM ----------
Indeed... there are worse choices than Doyle. I just hope he doesn't decide to do as Hater suggested and rehash Eragon... Wasn't Ilan Eshkeri on Thor once upon a time, or did I imagine that?
Where the fuck is Edward Shearmur when you need him...time to listen to Sky Captain again. That was Rocketeer 2.
Joseph
01-17-2011, 04:08 AM
"Spider-Man 2" remains the best score ever written for a Marvel movie, although I'm quite fond of Djawadi's "Iron Man" and Kamen's "X-Men." Elfman also did an interesting score for "Hulk."
Cristobalito2007
01-17-2011, 10:09 AM
"Spider-Man 2" remains the best score ever written for a Marvel movie, although I'm quite fond of Djawadi's "Iron Man" and Kamen's "X-Men." Elfman also did an interesting score for "Hulk."
Definitly agree with the comment about 'Hulk'. Shame there is no expanded release on that.
herbaciak
01-17-2011, 11:07 AM
February 23, 2011 - Yasunori Mitsuda - orchestral arrangements of Xenogears themes
Now I won't sleep till it come! That's like... totally awesome thing! Can't wait, can't wait. Thanks for info:D.
As for new Uematsu, what I've heard till now doesn't sound very good. To be honest I found it boring, unimaginative, slow (battle themes are just atrocious). But Uematsu didn't write anything decent since Lost Odyssey. So no hopes here, even if the game is from the same team.
Honored General
01-17-2011, 11:43 AM
@ tangotreats-
JOE HISAISHI-I just wanted to thank you for the live in Budokahn, and the gamerip of his music. I finally had the chance to listen to this New Years evening, and was completely blown away by both! Many,Many thanks for all your hard work. And much appreciated by me. Many thanks, once again!
Sirusjr
01-17-2011, 03:14 PM
Now I won't sleep till it come! That's like... totally awesome thing! Can't wait, can't wait. Thanks for info:D.
As for new Uematsu, what I've heard till now doesn't sound very good. To be honest I found it boring, unimaginative, slow (battle themes are just atrocious). But Uematsu didn't write anything decent since Lost Odyssey. So no hopes here, even if the game is from the same team.
Yeah FFXIV soundtrack was so bad I am not going to preorder Last Story. Still it is worth noting the release so we are watchful for when it shows up so we can see if it is a surprise.
JRL3001
01-18-2011, 10:35 AM
So, made a musical discovery over the pas couple days, which ended with me popping out and buying a CD :)
This is something a bit different than the usual for this thread.
Max Raabe & The Palast Orchester
Is a group from Germany that performs songs form the 1920's and 30's with absolute skill and class on a level I haven't seen other than movies from the era of the music they are performing. They are going to perform here in San Francisco in April and I am seriously thinking about grabbing a ticket. These guys have been around since the 80's! I'm shocked I've never heard of them before and glad I have now
Check out some of their stuff :)
YouTube - Max Raabe & Palast Orchester - Heute Nacht oder nie (1) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPjN_7P0Cjk)
YouTube - Max Raabe Live - You're the cream in my coffee... (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21yzXbPGhWc&feature=related)
YouTube - Max Raabe Live - Cheek to Cheek... (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBxJMg28OQ&feature=related)
maelstrom69
01-18-2011, 05:58 PM
I saw their concert at the Paramount last year and they really are wonderful! They've put out quite a few cds over the years - great music to play while vacuuming the house! There are a number of other orchestras around who perform the music from the 20s and 30s using the original scores, in fact one is right here in Berkeley!
JBarron2005
01-18-2011, 06:39 PM
Joe Johnston plus Micheal Giacchino for Captain America-The First Avenger....new Rocketeer?
Really? Last I read the film was to be scored by John Powell. I don't think Giacchino can compare to the composer of X-Men The Last Stand ;). Powell's colorful and bombastic orchestration is more rich and appropriate to Captain America, imo.
As for Last Story, the style is very much similar to Uematsu's style in Lost Odyssey. I'm just hoping the budget allows for an orchestra!
Vinphonic
01-19-2011, 12:16 PM
Katanagatari Vol. 2
Download Here (Credit goes to JJShanny) (
Thread 84941)
My personal favorite of Taku Iwasaki "modern" scores. Classic writing mixed with modern elements rarely sounds so good. Even the more somber string & flute cues appear like in the first volume and some over 9 minutes long and absolutly beautiful. There are the usual rap and jazz parts (but no opera) but they are not as obnoxious as in his previous works (some are so bad it's good though). I especially like the last four tracks, they were a blast to hear during the last episode. Overall, the two volumes are a solid musical score and maybe Iwasaki's best effort since Kenshin.
neothesnake
01-19-2011, 01:25 PM
The Hisaishi is wonderful, as always. Very accomplished, yet always with those flowing, warm melodies. Thanks, Tango. :)
It's been a while since I've shared, but today I got a bit of Golden Age goodness...
THE SEA HAWK - The Classic Film Scores of Erich Wolfgang Korngold
(1989 Expanded Release)
The National Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Charles Gerhardt
LAME -v0 MP3 | 10 Tracks | 70:05 | 113.61 MB
1. The Sea Hawk - 15:35
2. Of Human Bondage - 12:24
3. Between Two Worlds - 7:30
4. The Sea Wolf - 7:29
5. The Constant Nymph - 6:02
6. Kings Row - 1:39
7. Anthony Adverse - 4:53
8. Deception - 1:33
9. Devotion - 4:05
10. Escape Me Never - 8:14
This is not quite the same album that was just reissued, which runs a bit shy of 50 minutes; this is the 1989 remaster/reissue supervised by Gerhardt himself; the "Sea Hawk," "Of Human Bondage," and "Between Two Worlds" suites are all expanded from the original program.
I've seen the shorter album shared here, but never this expanded edition. Supposedly the audio quality is superior to the shorter Dolby Surround edition, but I can't personally vouch for that having not heard that issue of this album.
Anyhoo, if you've only heard the shorter version, you might want to give this a spin.
Part 1 (
http://rdrct.com/http://www.multiupload.com/31XKR0DN2F)
Part 2 (http:/rdrct.com/
http://www.multiupload.com/H8F7JXBYMZ)
Pass: tazed
Compressed with 7-zip
cant find the second part. Otherwise thanks
bishtyboshty
01-19-2011, 01:31 PM
cant find the second part. Otherwise thanks
It's there from Megaupload & Depositfiles ?.
neothesnake
01-19-2011, 01:42 PM
second part: "Page not found"
checked the other options but al part 1.
Or could you give me the link for part two?
bishtyboshty
01-19-2011, 01:53 PM
neothesnake
01-19-2011, 01:57 PM
thanks :)
DRoyarcher
01-19-2011, 08:44 PM
I was wondering if I could get your help?
I have been searching for a couple of soundtracks and post in a couple of threads but it appears that most of them update so quickly that my requests aren't really getting seen. If you all could point to:
Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium
The Secret of Kells
Un Prophete
I would prefer lossless, but at this point something is better than nothing.
Thank you all for your help!
arthierr
01-19-2011, 10:49 PM
Klnerfan: thanks a lot for your recent posts, I enjoy them as usual, especially the Casshern one (big Wada fan). I'll also try soon the new Katanagatari, since you pointed it out.
Senjou no Valkyria 3 Original Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22542) - February 23, 2011 - Hitoshi Sakimoto and Basiscape - unclear if he will finally use an orchestra, probably another synth ost.
Yep, as shown in the gameplay vids: YouTube - PSP - Valkyria Chronicles 3 Demo Gameplay (Part 1) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PpH3CZItNM&feature=related)
Soukyuu no Fafner HEAVEN AND EARTH Original Soundtrack (
http://vgmdb.net/album/22930) - February 23, 2011 - Tsuneyoshi Saitou - Soundtrack to new Fafner movie, trailer suggests it will use the same themes and hopefully same orchestra as the soundtracks to the series.
Marvelous! Fafner (that you posted BTW) is probably one of my favorite anime orchestral scores. So noble, poignant, inspired and immense in scope. I greatly look forward to this movie score, even if it's not the Warsaw this time.
Now, for people interested and Sahashi fans around here, I just posted this in the Sahashi thread:
I found those some months ago, and they're like *INSANELY* rare, so they totally should be re-posted in this thread. These aren't my links, so credits go to the original ripper / uploader. The music is orchestral, rock, and often a mix of both. The general tone is very adventurous and upbeat. There are a lot of quite enjoyable tracks, so even though it's a big download, it's really worth it. Enjoy!
Lord of Lords Ryu Knight:
Adeu's Legend OST
(Music Collection)
Music by
Toshihiko Sahashi
Jun'ichi Kanezaki
Keiichi Oku
Michiru Oshima
Year: 1994-96
Credits to the original ripper / uploader
This link is the main pack with most of the OSTs, in 320 kbps
megaupload = ekodi7ny
This link is Adeu Legend OST 2, curiously missing in the previous pack, in 160 kbps
mediafire = njoc5tnm3om
ShadowSong
01-19-2011, 11:09 PM
Hey Tango, Arthier, Sirus, KlnerFan, and everyone else. I haven't been around for a long time and I missed this thread. Its good to see that things are still going strong, and there are still good discussions (even if we are a miserable bunch sometimes) :). I shall be uploading something soon.
arthierr
01-19-2011, 11:31 PM
No prob. :) We all have our priorities and stuff to do. I've been *a little* scarce myself. The good thing is that when we can, we can join the boat again and enjoy great music and have discussions about it in this good place. So welcome back and take your time for posting stuff, no hurry. BTW, do you still have these Arnold suites? If you do, I'd like to request them, please.
Vinphonic
01-20-2011, 12:07 AM
YEAH New Sahashi, many many thanks arthierr.
About Casshern: I should have pointed out that "A Path" is probably the most beautiful japanese "english" song composed for an anime score. Especially how it is implemented in the anime itself: YouTube - Casshern SINS -- A Path (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW_t-8yoUY&feature=related)
tangotreats
01-20-2011, 01:35 AM
Well, I never thought I'd post a Kenji Kawai score... but I'm about to do just that. As some folk will know he was signed to score the new Ultraman Zero movie (which has been out in Japan for a few weeks now) - and as usual when I see his name on anything, my heart sank. The shock of the century is that it's actually rather a good score. In no way is it in the same league as Mike's previous score in the series (and I'm not just saying that because he might be reading this!) but it is a very rousing Ultraman score, and a far more traditional sounding one at that. Two things jumped out at me upon listening for the first time:
a) There is a real orchestra. Not a massive one, but that alone gave me cause to sigh with relief. The 2008 series had Toshihiko Sahashi's budget slashed and was 100% synthesised, and with their unwillingness to give Mike an orchestra the following year, I was somewhat convinced that Ultraman's musical fate was sealed. How lovely it is to hear a decent sized ensemble of real people playing real instruments, sawing away happy at an Ultraman score! Clearly this is a low budget score and there is quite a bit of synth sweetening going on here and there... but it's always done in the right sorts of places.
b) Kenji Kawai can write themes and can even do some wonderfully old-school superhero theatrics! I had pretty much given up on him as repetitive and electronic, with dull orchestrations... because that's what we hear from him most of the time... but his stab at a theatrical Ultraman score is pretty close in style to something you would've expected from Toshihiko Sahashi. Certainly Kawai's percussive and electronica tendencies are present (not all the time though - there's a surprising number of purely orchestral cues) but never to the detriment of melody. Because of that, Kawai's style suddenly starts to make a lot of sense to me - it becomes fun. We even have a brass fanfare spelling out "Ultraman Zero!" that fell straight out of the 1960s. I really had no idea Kawai had this sort of traditionalist music in him - a wonderful surprise. Tracks 29 and 32, for example - even the biggest Kawai fan on the planet probably wouldn't have expected to hear him write like this...
I don't know - maybe this has just caught me in a particular kind of mood... but I really, really love this score (a friendly reminder that I am, generally speaking, not at all a fan of Kawai) and hope that you will find something to enjoy too.
http://ultrafanz.blogspot.com/2011/01/ultraman-zero-movie-original-motion.html
ShadowSong
01-20-2011, 02:42 AM
Its good to be be back. Here is a little compilation I put together.

George Gershwin
Orchestral Compilation
1. Rhapsody In Blue
2-4. Porgy & Bess Symphonic Suite "Catfish Row"
5. Lullaby
6-9. Piano Concerto In F
10. An American in Paris
Multiupload Link (
http://www.multiupload.com/4Z7DOCP5OV)
The Summertime section in Catfish Row (around 5:15) is beautiful and one of my favorite orchestra excerpts ever. I know Catfish Row incredibly well because it is used as a mallet percussion audition excerpt for pretty much every orchestra, plus I have played the suite a number of times in concert as well. I had actually never heard Lullaby until today and I fell in love with it. Some really beautiful stuff and of course incredibly memorable melodies.
An American in Paris came off a damaged disc, so the first upload has some errors. Here is a reupload of the clean version of An American in Paris. Multiupload link (
http://www.multiupload.com/A6VJAK1EQ7)
Sirusjr
01-20-2011, 03:22 AM
Thanks for the link Tango! I will absolutely check this out. I'm not sure how excited I am for another sahashi if the only exciting thing is its rarity. While I love what i've heard, many soundtracks do leave me pretty dry so its not as exciting as if we had say a recent Sahashi that was released.
DRoyarcher
01-20-2011, 03:54 PM
tango... thanks for the Ni No Kuni... it has really made my day! I can't wait to play this when it comes to PS3!
Sanico
01-20-2011, 04:15 PM
Its good to be be back. Here is a little compilation I put together.
George Gershwin
Orchestral Compilation
Oh, Rhapsody in Blue. What a classic. That's a music that sounds so New York-ish, or perhaps a New York that doesn't exist anymore.
Thanks for posting!
Thanks for the link TT. The music is surprisingly good - I would never have thought to look for it had it not been for your recommendation.
herbaciak
01-21-2011, 04:58 PM
Some time ago I posted a sample from polish TV series "Time of Honor". Now the whole thing.
When I bought it I was totally blown away. Now I just see decent score which at times tries to be a bit too Hollywood like (even if orchestra is small). Still it's not Hollywood;).
Time of Honor mp3's 320
by Bartosz Chajdecki
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/1WE7XYVK/BaCh_CzHo.zip
password:HaR hAr har
Vinphonic
01-21-2011, 06:23 PM
In these indecent times something is worth listening to if it tries NOT to be like Hollywood.
Lens of Truth
01-21-2011, 09:43 PM
Shadow, do you have the performing credits for your compilation?
ShadowSong
01-21-2011, 11:14 PM
I think Rhapsody and An American in Paris are Libor Pesek and Slovak National Philharmonic. Catfish Row is Leonard Slatkin & the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra. Lullaby and Piano Concerto are played by Erich Kunzel and Cincinnati.
arthierr
01-23-2011, 12:13 AM
Ralf Wengenmayr
(T)Raumschiff Surprise - Periode 1
[FLAC]
Credits to Laugiscore
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/lossless-movie-soundtracks-scores-62633/340.html#post1321694
I've recently seen a german comedy named Space Movie, originally titled (T)Raumschiff Surprise - Periode 1. As I'm a sucker for parodies in general, I gave it a shot, but the film wasn't very good in fact (according to my taste), even though it had its good bits: an excellent ambience, a surprisingly high production value for an european movie, nice special effects, and of course Anja Kling who's just *sublime*, as usual. However, one aspect particularly catched my attention: the music, which was very enjoyable and far superior to what you can usually expect from a rather obscure comedy.
Tango already posted here a score by the composer Ralf Wengenmayr: the very nice Vicky the Viking (Wickie und die starken M�nner), which already showed his pretty decent skills in making a grand, vivid, effective orchestral movie score. The same kind of talent is displayed here, and (T)Raumschiff Surprise turns out to be pretty impressive, music-wise. Elmer Bernstein famously chose to score comedies - like Airplane! - as if they were genuinely serious, dramatic movies. Wengenmayr (or/and his director Michael Herbig) opted for the same approach and downright made his music to sound like an actual large scale sci-fi score (with some medieval and western elements at times, due to the crazy story of the movie - don't ask, just see it, you'll understand).
Of course the influences of Star Wars are numerous. John Williams' style is frequently borrowed and spoofed, which is quite logical given the fact that the movie parodies a lot the Star Wars universe and story. You also have some obvious Silvestri influences in the western parts. But eventually Wengenmayr manages to be original enough, for instance the theme of the Regulators (the bad guys) is stylistically close to the Emperor's theme, yet it's in itself quite new and original - and what a great theme!
In conclusion, I greatly recommend this score, which is rare and obscure, and doesn't deserve to be the least.
tangotreats
01-23-2011, 12:18 AM
Haha! This was actually one of my emergency backup scores to post when all hell was breaking loose. ;)
It is indeed a fine one. :)
arthierr
01-23-2011, 12:22 AM
I wonder if there are other good Wengenmayr scores. I only heard the 2 afore-mentioned. Any suggestions?
mojomadnes
01-23-2011, 12:23 AM
More Oylmpic music:
16 Days Of Glory (2 Cds)
http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=xvg2an3okd
http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=muwlpdjcxc
Track Listing
Cd1
01 - Olympics Hymn (Athens, 1896).Mp3 03:52 Spiros Samaras
02 - The First Olympics (Athens, 1896).Mp3 01:20 Bruce Broughton
03 - Toward A New Life (Los Angeles, 1932).Mp3 05:52 Josef Suk
04 - Olympic Hymn (Berlin, 1936).Mp3 03:48 Richard Strauss
05 - Olympic Themethe Chaseolympiad (Grenoble, 1868).Mp3 04:04 Leo Arnaud
06 - Visions Of Eightsalute To The Olympians (Munich, 1972).Mp3 04:54 Henry Mancini
07 - Nadia's Theme (Montreal, 1976).Mp3 03:21 Barry DeVorzon
08 - Farewell Song An Ballet (Montreal, 1976).Mp3 05:14 Andre Mathieu
09 - The Child (Lake Placid, 1980).Mp3 03:05 Vangelis
10 - Festive Overture (Moscow, 1980).Mp3 06:14 Dimitri Shostakovich
11 - Gonna Fly Know (Sarajevo, 1984).Mp3 02:27 Bill Conti
12 - Chariots Of Fire (Sarajevo, 1984).Mp3 04:07 Vangelis
13 - Sixteen Days Of Glory (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:23 Lee Holdridge
14 - Dawn (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:14 Lee Holdridge
15 - Entrance Of The Nations (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:22 Lee Holdridge
16 - Olympic Fanfare An Theme (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 04:21 John Williams
17 - Lightinf Of The Torch (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:13 Philip Glass
18 - Power Sports Theme (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:44 Bill Conti
19 - Grace (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:24 Quincy Jones
20 - Olympic Opening And Ballet (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 08:47 Bruce Rowland
Cd2
01 - The Highest Step (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 02:16 Lee Holdridge
02 - Sixteen Days Of Glory Reprise (Los Angeles, 1984).Mp3 03:05 Lee Holdridge
03 - Winter Games (Calgari, 1988).Mp3 04:02 David Foster
04 - The Olympic Spirit (Seoul, 1988).Mp3 04:05 John Williams
05 - One Moment In Time (Seoul, 1988).Mp3 04:42 Albert Hammond
06 - Olympic Chant (Barcelona, 1992).Mp3 03:39 Mikis Teodorakis
07 - The Mediterranean Sea (Barcelona, 1992).Mp3 05:19 Ryuichi Sakamoto
08 - Summon The Heroes (Atlanta, 1996).Mp3 03:35 John Williams
09 - The Run Through Time (Atlanta, 1996).Mp3 05:04 Mark Watters
10 - On Wings Of Victory (Atlanta, 1996).Mp3 06:22 Michael Kamen
11 - Tradition Of The Games (Atlanta, 1996).Mp3 05:39 Basil Poledouris
12 - Olympic Fanfare (Sydney, 2000).Mp3 00:33 David Stanhope
13 - Journey Of Angels (Sydney 2000).Mp3 05:04 Chong Lim
14 - Nature (Sydney 2000).Mp3 06:05 Chong Lim
15 - Call Of The Champions (Salt Lake City, 2000).Mp3 04:55 John Williams
16 - Tradition Of The Games (Salt Lake City, 2000).Mp3 02:59 Mark Watters
17 - The Fire Within (Salt Lake City, 2000).Mp3 03:26 Michael Kamen
18 - Past The Time (Athens, 2004).Mp3 04:10 Trevor Horn
19 - Living In My City (Turin, 2006).Mp3 03:24 Maury Lobina
20 - Happy Valley (Beijing, China).Mp3 03:21 Vanessa-Mae Vanakorn Nicholson
Best
FANTASTIC! Do you know if there exists the music by Angelo Badalamenti for the 1992 Games in Barcelona? I know he was a big presence in the Opening Ceremony...Thanks!
basic-instinct
01-23-2011, 12:33 AM
This album included Badalamenti's music for Barcelona Olympics Games:
Barcelona Summer Olympics - The Torch Theme (The Flaming Arrow) (05:43)

arthierr
01-23-2011, 01:34 AM
I'd like to point out that Symphony SEED and Symphony SEED Destiny have been re-posted in 320 kbps. For people who haven't listened to them or don't even know them (!!!), I reiterate that they're fantastic orchestral albums, composed by Toshihiko Sahashi and skillfully performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. No trace of rock or synth elements here, these are two pure, sumptuous symphonic suites, featuring numerous themes, including some gorgeous ones. A must-listen for any orchestral music lover. Credits to JonC.
Thread 85080
Thread 85081
And of course, once you've listened to these, you also have to listen to the third of the series:
TOSHIHIKO SAHASHI
Gundam Symphony (30th Anniversary)
London Symphony Orchestra
conducted by Gavin Greenaway
LAME 3.98.2 - V0 / Inc. scans and bonus video of scoring sessions from Collectors' Edition DVD
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/ATYYXWTB/TS-GS30.part1.rar
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/NXH7Y27N/TS-GS30.part2.rar
LAME 3.98.2 -V6 / no scans / no bonus video (SMALL DOWNLOAD for the impatient / bandwidth restricted)
http://uploadmirrors.com/download/0ZS2S6JS/TS-GS30LITE.rar
More comments coming tomorrow, but just briefly... If you liked Symphony Seed / Symphony Seed Destiny, get this and get it NOW. Toshihiko Sahashi has written a 60 minute symphony based on themes across the whole spectrum of Gundam - from the very first 1979 series all the way up to 2007's Gundam 00... and orchestrated it to the hilt in his inimitable style.
The 85 piece London Symphony Orchestra is in magnificent form.
jakob
01-23-2011, 01:47 AM
POW!! Looks like we're in business again--it sure is hopping in here!! I hope to post some wind band stuff soon, but thanks for all of your recent contributions!
jo12345678
01-23-2011, 01:58 AM
Just a few questions. Is there such thing as upscaling (if thats the correct term) from 320kpbs to FLAC? ie. Is there such a thing as fake FLAC files? and is it possible to check without getting too technical?
I've got Symphony SEED and Symphony SEED Destiny in FLAC if anyone wants it. I downloaded it from a really obscure source, so wasn't sure if its legit or not.
=)
bishtyboshty
01-23-2011, 02:01 AM
Yes, you can convert 320 to FLAC; but the quality is still 320, or less if the 320 was itself a conversion from a lower bit rate.
arthierr
01-23-2011, 02:22 AM
Is there such thing as upscaling (if thats the correct term) from 320kpbs to FLAC?
The usual term is transcoding (going from one format to another). As mp3 encoding is destructive (removes informations), converting mp3 into flac won't bring the informations back, so basically, as bishtyboshty said, it's mp3 but with bigger size - not to mention it's morally wrong to disguise lossy as lossless.
Is there such a thing as fake FLAC files? and is it possible to check without getting too technical?
Yes, there is. There's many guides for this, try this: spot fake flac - Recherche Google (
http://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&safe=off&client=opera&hs=COp&rls=en&q=spot+fake+flac&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=)
I've got Symphony SEED and Symphony SEED Destiny in FLAC if anyone wants it.
Thanks for the offer. :)
Sirusjr
01-23-2011, 06:32 AM
The FLAC is likely legit. There have been lossless versions of gundam seed and gundam seed destiny floating around the internet for a while now. It would be nice to have them posted here for people who appreciate lossless :)
jo12345678
01-23-2011, 10:59 AM
Well, hopefully this works. Let me know if it doesn't...
Symphony SEED FLAC
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G1RT9QHW
and
Symphony SEED Destiny FLAC
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KM34KT04
=)
Rad�Max
01-23-2011, 12:31 PM
thanks for re posting the link!...great find
Sirusjr
01-24-2011, 12:03 AM
Nobuyuki Nakajima - Tamayura Original Soundtrack
Relaxing/Piano/solo instruments - MP3 320kbps - Originally from Nipponsei

Download (
http://www.multiupload.com/TPFXI8YZGZ)
psw: smile
This is a nice relaxing soundtrack and worth checking out. You can find some samples and a review Here (
http://blog.animeinstrumentality.net/2011/01/tamayura-original-soundtrack/)
Amagami SS Original Soundtrack - Toshiyuki Omori
Piano/Relaxing/Jazz - MP3 320kbps - Nipponsei

Download (
http://www.multiupload.com/JLU8LP7JN9)
PSW: smile
You can grab the OP/ED singles and music from the PS2 game Here (
Thread 77897)
Otome Youkai Zakuro Original Soundtrack - Renka Onban
Composed by Masaru Sugimoto (Disc 1 - 1-30, Disc 2 - 1-12)
Nanase Hikaru - (Disc 2 - 14-21)
Relaxing/Piano/Strings - MP3 320kbps -
originally posted by Nipponsei - 2010 - 2CD

Download Part 1 (
http://www.multiupload.com/1JDLP5Z4KJ)
Download Part 2 (
http://www.multiupload.com/JKNGUJS6BY)
PSW: smile
This is a very nice soundtrack that everyone should check out. It is the first full length soundtrack by Masaru Sugimoto and should put him on the map.
failsafe123
01-24-2011, 04:22 AM
I am a neophyte with regards to Japanese Video Game music/symphonies. I am an avid game player, but I've neither seen, nor watched Gundam. I just did some quick research and decided to download the symphony by Toshihiko Sahashi.
It's breathtaking. Even for me, who knows nothing about the source material, the music ignites my imagination. That kind of music, so inspirational, is why I love combing the internet for music. I can ONLY find it in wonderful groups and posts like this one.
Thank you all, and especially to everyone involved in compressing and sharing Toshihiko Sahashi's symphony. I look forward to purchasing my own copy.
Thank you again!!
Vinphonic
01-24-2011, 09:02 PM
Otome Youkai Zakuro is really great. I will be keeping an eye on Masaru Sugimoto from now on.
Some time ago I mentioned that I had bought some film and orchestral CDs from Japan and that I would post them here. I have hit a hurdle. I converted to MP3-320 on my laptop but when I send them to �compressed (zipped) folder� on WinRAR, I get the following error message �Cannot be compressed because it contains characters that cannot be used in a compressed folder such as�. [ie Japanese kanji characters] You should rename this file or directory.� I changed the Japanese characters to English where I could but still get the same message.
Can some kind person tell me what I am doing wrong please (in simple language please as am not very computer-literate)? Sorry if I am posting in the wrong place.
arthierr
01-24-2011, 11:03 PM
Funny, I several times compressed tracks with Japanese characters using Winrar. I just select the files I want to compress, or the folder, then I right-click and choose "compress with Winrar". Is it the way you tried?
And thanks for the recent contributions, mates! I should also have something nice coming in a few days...
Thagor
01-25-2011, 12:19 AM
Thanks for all three osts Sirusjr ;)
They are all good :) Too bad i had Amagami already ;)
Sanico
01-25-2011, 01:39 AM
I'm right now listening Tamayura, and indeed is a nice soundtrack. Thanks Sirusjr :)
Amagami soundtrack seems to be around the same kind of music, but i haven't heard it yet.
Thread 85200
Yes, that is what I am doing arthierr. The problem may be that I am using a free version of WinRAR which expired after 40 days, so unless I pay for it I cannot get the full facilities. Is there a way around that?
Hong Kong Philharmonic Orchestra under Yoshikazu FUKUMURA, recorded November 29 & 30 1983, at Tsuen Wan Town Hall, Hong Kong.
126.05 MB
5 tracks
Copied from my CD.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/long-march-symphony-ding-shan-de-mp3-85206/#post1616439
Doublehex
01-26-2011, 06:13 AM
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Read it on health converter (
http://healthconvertersucks.com)
lol wut
Sirusjr
01-26-2011, 06:30 AM
Majin Game Rip - Toshihiko Sahashi
Thanks to Infernus Animositas for ripping this :)
Thread 85192
I haven't gotten to listen to the rip yet to determine if it makes a good listening experience but from the track times I sure hope so.
Lens of Truth
01-26-2011, 10:34 AM
The artwork looks so magical, but I'm afraid the score doesn't follow suit: lots of nondescript stuff for the levels, autopilot small-ensemble action music, and a theme you feel like you've heard a thousand times before, riffing massively off POTC and Night at the Museum (neither of which were original or exciting to begin with!). Bit of a disappointment really. Lucky I didnt try for the FLAC :(
Thanks for posting all the same!
tangotreats
01-26-2011, 12:04 PM
Second the thanks to Sirusjr and the original ripper - the rip itself is reasonable... However I'm glad that I'm not the first person to express dissatisfaction with the score itself. I can only echo Lens' sentiments. For a score that was so hyped, and obviously had a bit of prestige associated with it (recording half the orchestra in London) etc... and what do we have? Endless ambient droning, interspersed with cliched Zimmer theme, crappy ethnic drumming, flat action music, and a cheesy synsthesised Ehru!
He had pretty much half of the LSO sitting in that studio - and got them playing this. So coin a phrase, WTF?!
Vinphonic
01-26-2011, 12:46 PM
Well it seems the budget and interest of Sahashi was not enough to elevate the music to his normal standards (it might be his weakest score to date) but I certainly pray that this will not become the "new" Sahashi. I want my sweeping melodies and trumpet fanfares.
On an unrelated note here is a small preview of the Star Driver OST, the next big score to look forward to: Monochrome ~ version de l'apprivotser (
http://www.mediafire.com/?psiu677lfezeroi)
tangotreats
01-26-2011, 01:21 PM
I don't think this will become Sahashi's style. He's done a few duds before (Hunter x Hunter springs to mind - what a piece of s**t those scores were) and this is just one of them. You just need to hear the sort of music he puts into those cheesy Tokusatsu shows (Tomica Hero Rescue Fire being the most recent, in this thread somewhere) to hear what his current style is really like. Surely this is Sahashi with his hand forced. I can imagine him hearing "You get to record in London!", thinking to himself "YES YES YES!!!" and starting to subconsciously write another Symphony Seed in his head... then hearing all the restrictions, and this nonsense about splitting the orchestra into two halves and doing the other half in Tokyo (WHAT? WHY?!) and wishing he'd never started.
Problem is, Sahashi is not prolific these days - anime has dropped right off (nothing in 2010, one in 09, nothing in 2008, nothing in 2007, one in 2006, etc) and so has drama and even film. His last Ultraman film was in 2008 and his last series (also 2008) was no budget synthesiser. I wonder if he's too expensive, too busy with other stuff we're not privvy to, or whether he's just fallen out of favour...
Vinphonic
01-26-2011, 01:56 PM
What I would give for another Steel Angel Kurumi or Gundam Seed. Sadly it won't happen anytime soon if at all. Today I feel a little sad. *Listens to Seed Symphony*
Sirusjr
01-27-2011, 03:53 AM
Yeah, I have to agree with everyone on Majin. The only good part is the theme which like you said is sort of generic and on the rip there are a bunch of repetitive cues that simply play the theme with little development if you ignore the ambient/ethnic crap.
arthierr
01-27-2011, 02:28 PM
Majin Game Rip - Toshihiko Sahashi
You guys frightened me.
After having seen your comments, I approached this score with apprehension and low expectations. And this impression was confirmed by the first tracks (except the title, which is great and effectively exposes the main theme): a bunch of awful synth / ethnic / ambient tracks barely listenable. besides, I deleted them, as I usually do with such tracks in game or anime scores.
BUT, when I reached track 10, things got a lot more interesting. Of course it's not your best Sahashi music to date, but you nonetheless get some nice action material (track 15 is quite intense). Sahashi's usual style is very present here: this kind of sharp, nervous, edgy, pounding writing I enjoy so much ("heard a thousand times before" maybe, but when you love this style, it doesn't really matter).
The following tracks (16, 17, 18) have some nice "epic" quality: Sahashi, despite the skimpy means he got, manages to create some cool foreboding, menacing music by pushing all the buttons nearly to the max.
And what to say about track 23 (and tracks 25, 26, 27, which are nearly identical): isn't it just a marvel? I guess it's the end credits music, so Sahashi makes a long and beautiful suite based upon his main theme, arranging it into several fashions, from the most heroic and energetic ones to the more delicate and restrained ones (including a music box version!). This piece alone is a good reason to download the whole score.
Track 24 is quite a noble and appeased piece, that allows the listener to relax after the power and tension expressed in the previous tracks.
Now, once you've made a little cleanup, once you've deleted all the filler and duplicate tracks, when you listen to this score again, what you'll hear is an indeed short, but sweet, beautiful, effective score, which, if it doesn't stand as the best Sahashi score to date, is IMO situated in the "satisfying zone", or the "more-than-average zone".
I agree on the fact that the composer could have done a much better job here, but I don't blame him. The mediocre parts of this score are very probably the responsability of the game producers and designers, who obviously have some musical taste issues. ;)
Hunter x Hunter springs to mind - what a piece of s**t those scores were
LOL, the funny thing is, those are the scores that got me interested in Sahashi's music, because, once (again) you've got rid of the garbage tracks, you have about 20% of really cool music in the 3 OSTs of Hunter x Hunter. I was impressed by the genuine sense of melody, complex writing and emotional expressivity, so I looked for some other scores by the same composer, which were happily WAAAY better!
ShadowSong
01-27-2011, 09:20 PM
I don't need to say anything about Majin. You all summed up how I feel already.
Wilde
Debbie Wiseman
Sample "An Age of Silver" (
http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/6/24/2487612//21 An Age Of Silver.mp3)
Multipload Link (
http://www.multiupload.com/CTLWVFWHRL)
Doublehex
01-27-2011, 10:37 PM
So, I have been inactive for way too long. I think the last post of any substance I had was in regards to Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer.
Following due course, I have for you another videogame score. Yes, it is another upload of Dead Space 2, but it has the advantage of combining both the collector's edition soundtrack and the iTunes/Amazon MP3 edition. I arranged it to the best of my abilities, but as I am still in the middle of the game (which is pretty damn good; it would be great if it was actually scary and not just very atmospheric and nerve wrecking...but that is for another post) it is not arranged in chronological order. Neither was it my intent! Instead, I went mostly for atmosphere, placing like minded pieces together and trying to tell a story through music. I also used titles as a way of helping me determine where I should place a file. The best example of this would be Titan Station Elementary/Say Hello to My Little Friends/Class Dismissed.
The collector's edition mp3s are ripped from my copy of the disc. It was done by dbpoweramp, is encoded in LAME at VBR 320. The iTunes/Amazon MP3 files are .M4A 256 CBR. I have included high quality images of both. Apologies about the rip on the Collector's Edition - EA thought it was a swell idea to use cheap cardboard sleeve instead of a jewel case. Despite me trying to be as careful as I could be, I managed to rip it. Not completely, but still. Bah.
The iTunes/AmazonMP3 folder image is included for your convience. Credit goes to VGMDB for hosting a 1500x1500 HQ for download. It is listed as folder_alt.
Dead Space 2
Jason Graves

Download (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0IKAGRE0)
So, enough of all that junk. Here is the important stuff - how is the music? The music for the first game was, to be frank, fantastic! Reminiscing Goldsmith's Alien, it was filled with atmosphere. The moment the opening cue started up, with those foreboding strings signaling the arrival of the stage of the original Dead Space, the USG Ishimura, you knew you were in for a musical treat. It put Jason Graves on the video game scoring map. The question wasn't if Graves could keep up the sense of quality - it was if he could step off the beaten path enough to differentiate the two games in terms of musical tone, but not stray enough so that the music had no cohesion with the last game.
TL;DR version: he did it. Dead Space 2 has a fantastic score, but it is also bred in line with the language of the last score. The dominant presence of strings, the low, long and brooding brass, the percussion that sounds as if it was anvils - it's all here, but used in new ways.
The long version: The major drawback of the score is that it does not have a dominant theme. The USG Ishimura of the last game, heard "Welcome Aboard the U.S.G. Ishimura", was the theme of the ship and was subtly alluded to all of the time. Now, this may be just because I have heard the first score a dozen times over, and only to the newer one a few, but I can't find a theme that is found all of the time.
The closest we have is Isaac's theme. It is first heard in "Issac, Are You There?" and it's final appearance is "Lacrimosa". It is what I would call "strings on drugs". There are few ways I can describe it. It can only be heard. You'll recognize it when you hear it, and especially if you play the game since it is first heard when you see Isaac for the first time, hallucinating of his dead Nicole and being "questioned" by a psychologist in the Sprawl's mental ward.
Jason Graves is obviously an admirer of Krzyzytof Penderecki, and perhaps Gyorgy Legeti. You could definitely hear remnants of that inspiration with the first game. With this, Jason Graves makes it so damn obvious there is no way you can argue otherwise. It's all here - the abstract way of strings and percussion, the uneven melodies, the way brass is played in reverse, the plucking of violin strings...
If you are a fan of the avaunt grade, there is no doubt you will admire Dead Space 2. That may explain why I think so highly of it: it fits my tastes like a glove. I'm not surprised that many people were not into the soundtrack: it is hard for many people to recognize this as music.
Silence has a lot to play here. It won't be recognized on the first listen unless you intentionally listen closely. The space between a series of percussion beats, the way the string is played...Graves has found a way to make instruments give the illusion of silence.
The action music is great as well. It is full of drums and harsh string usage. It personifies the fear of bloody, gorey death. The atmosphere music signifies the fear of the death from the unknown. Isaac doesn't know when a Necromorph will pop out of a vent or from a corner. But when the battle music plays, the Necromorphs are right in front of him. Those bloody scythes and claws will rip him into pieces if he doesn't act now. A single mis-shot will end him - he needs to aim now, or he is dead! And the music says that, note to note. Great stuff.
In conclusion, this is a great soundtrack. I can't call it excellent because it is lacking on themes, which is a real shame. It is so close in my eyes to being a score we would be talking about long after the game is out. But chances are it won't be remembered minus the fans of the franchise. Not because it is bad - far from it! But it just doesn't have recognizable themes. It may be played at a videogame symphony once or twice, but not in a decade or so.
If you are willing to buy the Collector's Edition of the game for the score, I encourage you to do so. It is worth the extra money for the soundtrack alone. In fact, it is the only redeeming part of the collector's edition! Art Lithograph which is nothing more than thinly printed cardboard? A cheaply made "MADE IN CHINA" plastic rendition of the Plasma Cutter? If it weren't for the soundtrack, I would easily say the Collector's Edition is a waste of $20.
In other news...I am working with a gamerip of Wrath Unleashed by Jack Walls. Balls to the wall action. Very fun - if direct - score.
arthierr
01-27-2011, 11:11 PM
Wow, nice post. It's good to have some detailed comments about why people choose to post something, why they like it, etc. Now, I'm curious about this DS2. If it's in the same vein as its predecessor, there could be some good material indeed. Thanks for posting!
Thanks also for Wilde, Shadow. I believe I never listened to a Wiseman score before. Good opportunity to start now!
I also wanted to bring your attention on a live interview of Toshihiko Sahashi about Majin (first time I hear the guy talking).
Majin and the music of the Forsaken Kingdom | Joystiq (
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/11/majin-and-the-music-of-the-forsaken-kingdom/)

Vinphonic
01-28-2011, 01:18 AM
Dead Space 2: The score itself is great and a homage to classic horror. But I can't enjoy most of it as a standalone listening experience (Aside from Isaac, Lacrimosa, Convergence and a few others). I think this kind of music is best heared in the game/movie/series itself. The other problem I have is not necessarily the fault of the music. The game itself is not horror, it's an action thriller. Without the music there would be no horror at all, just tension.
I would have appreciated a different approach, more on a psychological level. Why does the music always have to tell us what to expect at the moment, let the music slowly build up BUT not abruptly end when danger is nearby. Even "twisted" happy melodies can be played with a monster standing right behind you and it would be way more disturbing than high pitched strings screaming danger as soon as you enter a new room. The best kind of horror is (for me) the unexpected but with the way the music is handled in the game I already know what to expect before I see it based on the triggered events.
Sirusjr
01-28-2011, 02:10 AM
I tried to listen to Dead Space 2 yesterday and I have to say that while it has a few nice moments, it is just as unlistenable to me as the first score. I appreciate that the score is highly effective in creating the horror atmosphere but it is precisely because the score is so effective that I find it painful to listen. In the same way as Alien, Aliens, and all those types of scores as well as The Road and Saw are amazing in movies and terrible for me to enjoy separate from the movies, I find Dead Space music to be far too depressing to be worthwhile. I find that any horror score I love has to be more than simply scary and foreboding but must present to me some sort of beauty or emotion (sadness). This is best shown in Zacharias De La Riva's scores for Hierro and Imago Morits as well as Jerry Goldsmith's scores for The Omen and Poltergeist.
If you listen to De La Riva's two scores, you will notice that the movies are built around the sadness of the characters, often in the loss of a loved one and this is presented in emotional violins and subdued piano. This emotion gives me a tie to the scores so while there are some disturbing cues I still feel like it has a reason. In the same way, Jerry Goldsmith's music for Poltergeist expresses the sadness felt by the parents of the little girl who is taken by the ghosts and also the sadness felt by the characters once they realize the fates of the poltergeists themselves. This sadness is presented with the beautiful, heart-wrenching Carrol-Anne's theme that ties together all of the major pieces of the score so that I feel the intense imminence of danger but still have an emotional connection to the music.
Sirusjr
01-28-2011, 06:51 AM
Check out this awesome video from Final Fantasy VS 13:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/japanese-gameplay-final-fantasy/709810
I am linking to this trailer for Final Fantasy VS 13 for two reasons. (1) the choral track in the second half of the video is awesome and (2) the gameplay in the second half of the video is enough to sell me on this game.
Joseph
01-28-2011, 07:23 AM
The music sounds nice, but I have mixed feelings about the gameplay. Awesome Action/RPG stuff, but it's being directed by Tetsuya "Kingdom Hearts" Nemura, which could mean bland stage layouts and uninspired scenario planning.
EDIT:
The character designs are also awful. Everyone is lanky and wears dark clothes. The scene with the Yoshitaka Amano artwork only serves as a reminder of how badly this series needs him back.
herbaciak
01-28-2011, 10:35 AM
Actually FF vs XIII is a thing I wait because of 2 reasons. First - new Shimomura, I have really high hopes, the game looks much more serious than things she does most the time, and it's great opportunity to make kick-ass, deep score. And second - at last (after 10 frickin years!) it looks like we've chance to play good FF game (never played Crisis Core though...).
As for DS2 I like it just as much as first one. It's not pleasent music, but sometimes I have mood for controlled chaos;).
Here's interview with Greaves:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/deadspace2workingtitle/video/6286862
Vinphonic
01-28-2011, 12:24 PM
If you like operatic action cues, here is something similar:
BLEACH ~Hell Arc~
Composed by Shiro Sagisu
Download (
http://www.mediafire.com/?zyv7mcrkz2qs15v)
You either love or hate his new style. Here he returns with the London Symphony in similar fashion to his Evangelion 2.0 score. Operatic in nature with some unnecessary rock pieces cramed in at the end. But nonetheless great. It's a score fitting for Dies Irae.
Credit goes to Razgriz103
warstar937
01-28-2011, 03:32 PM
Michael giacchino Fracture soundtrack
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IUBCX21J)
herbaciak
01-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Dude, just listening to Bleach Hell Arc (I'm in a middle of it) and I love it! Awesome piece of music even if Lucifers Dance (Part B_Opus1) sounds like Phantom in the Opera;).
Doublehex
01-28-2011, 03:49 PM
All I can say is that the third track is...weird. That's the only word that comes to mind in describing it.
jakob
01-30-2011, 08:38 AM
Okay, you guys will have to bear with me on this one. I was organizing my music and came across this four track, 49-minute piece of music that I have no idea what it is!! I hear what would sound like Vaughan Williams, Respighi, Hindemith, Shostakovich, and even David Newman (?????) in this but it's none of them, and I have absolutely no notion of what it could be. Please forgive me if it's something ridiculously obvious.
Here it is: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z1FWF506)
edit: really the only thing coming to mind is maybe john scott...nothing seems to fit :(
Sirusjr
01-30-2011, 05:41 PM
Ghost Mo Ichido Dakishimetai OST
MP3 320kbps CBR - Posted by Amodos
Relaxing|Romantic

Original Thread (
Thread 85389)
EDIT:
I also wanted to say that i have been listening to Wilde and it is wonderful stuff. Make sure you grab it if you didn't.
The Red Inn - L'auberge Rouge
Alexandre Azaria - 2007 - Score [MP3]
Orchestral|Magical|Whimsical
Posted by Aimelek

Original Thread (
Thread 84890)
This is a wonderful score reminiscent of Danny Elfman's style in Edward Scissorhands and The Wolfman. Huge thanks to Aimelek for posting it :)
arthierr
01-31-2011, 01:30 AM
Okay, you guys will have to bear with me on this one. I was organizing my music and came across this four track, 49-minute piece of music that I have no idea what it is!! I hear what would sound like Vaughan Williams, Respighi, Hindemith, Shostakovich, and even David Newman (?????) in this but it's none of them, and I have absolutely no notion of what it could be. Please forgive me if it's something ridiculously obvious.
Here it is: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z1FWF506)
edit: really the only thing coming to mind is maybe john scott...nothing seems to fit :(
Pretty certain it's not john scott. It totally sounds like a symphony from the first half 20th century, I'm not a specialist but some parts have a little of Shostakovich's style. Tango, Lens or Streich are very likely to know this kind of things. BTW, great stuff, I enjoyed listening to it.
tangotreats
01-31-2011, 02:16 AM
Aargh, frustrating! It's certainly none of the chaps you mentioned, although I see why you mentioned the names... I just cannot fathom out this piece at all. It has moments of pure Englishness. It is clearly a symphony, but it is also remarkably filmic. The language is late romantic, but also quite modern in places.
I cannot believe this is Shostakovich; no way. Definitely bits of Shosty in there, but as a whole, I don't think so.
SO, what the hell is it? I thought Eduard Tubin for a few minutes... but now I don't think so. :/
hater
01-31-2011, 04:03 AM
on march 1. Lalaland will release an Medal of Honor Box-Set, 8cds with all MoH Scores so far.Except for the newest, there is a LOT of greatness to find here.Its limited, and they promised more gamescore boxsets form EA, others. The price is 55 $.40 pages booklet included.
ShadowSong
01-31-2011, 04:21 AM
Aargh, frustrating! It's certainly none of the chaps you mentioned, although I see why you mentioned the names... I just cannot fathom out this piece at all. It has moments of pure Englishness. It is clearly a symphony, but it is also remarkably filmic. The language is late romantic, but also quite modern in places.
I cannot believe this is Shostakovich; no way. Definitely bits of Shosty in there, but as a whole, I don't think so.
SO, what the hell is it? I thought Eduard Tubin for a few minutes... but now I don't think so. :/
I KNOW ITS DRIVING ME CRAZY! I know this piece but I cannot place it at all
jakob
01-31-2011, 04:33 AM
I am strangely satisfied that this is now driving other people crazy as well.
TazerMonkey
01-31-2011, 06:45 AM
I believe I've found it...
Joly Braga Santos: Symphony No. 2 (
http://www.amazon.com/Joly-Braga-Santos-Symphony-Crossroads/dp/B000053W4D/ref=pd_sim_m_1)
I give all the credit to Google.
---------- Post added at 10:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:18 PM ----------
Also, it's been a while since I've posted something, so:
Arnold Schoenberg
VERKL�RTE NACHT, PELLEAS UND MELISANDE
The Berlin Philharmonic
Conducted by Herbert von Karajan
My rip -- MP3 -v0 | 16 Tracks | 120 MB
Be not afraid -- this is early, pre-serialism Schoenberg. I stumbled across this the other day and figured that anything titled "Transfigured Night" couldn't be too much of a gamble.
"Verkl�rte Nacht" is the 1943 version for string orchestra, "Pelleas und Melisande" is for your typical gargantuan late Romantic orchestra. Both deal with troubled romance and are suitably tortured, but one ends happily and the other ends in tragedy. They are both wonderful, though I give a personal edge to "Nacht;" I suspect it's the string player in me.
Enjoy. :)
Download here (
http://www.multiupload.com/QB88C3OOXC)
jakob
01-31-2011, 07:20 AM
I believe I've found it...
Joly Braga Santos: Symphony No. 2 (
http://www.amazon.com/Joly-Braga-Santos-Symphony-Crossroads/dp/B000053W4D/ref=pd_sim_m_1)
I give all the credit to Google.
Well you clever little devil. Thanks!
ShadowSong
01-31-2011, 11:19 AM
I have sad news for the scoring community and this thread in particular. John Barry died of a heart attack earlier today.
Rest in peace, John Barry. A brilliant man, whose music will live on with all of us.
I am now going to listen to "The Beyondness of Things" in his memory.
Lens of Truth
01-31-2011, 12:32 PM
Shadow, this is incredibly sad. I believe I said earlier in the thread that I was holding out for one more. What a man and a true original! I don't think I've been this affected by a composer's death since Jerry passed away. The warmth and humanity so abundant in Barry's scores are to be cherished even more now.
Rest in peace.
ShadowSong
01-31-2011, 12:52 PM
Indeed I was hoping for one too. Now taking a musical journey through his work is overwhelming. There is so much variety and originality. Incredible work
tangotreats
01-31-2011, 03:59 PM
That really is the most unpleasant shock. I was sure he would write more - in my mind, he would have finished The Seasons, found renewed vigour, and resumed film scoring.
There are dozens of composers who wrote music cleverer than Barry's, but none who wrote music more human.
It will take me some time to accept this... in the mean time, here's Barry's final published work... I suppose it's appropriate that it was a song wrtitten for an old friend, with an old friend, and one that looked back nostalgically to his work in the Bond franchise... Shirley Bassey sings Our Time Is Now; music by John Barry, lyrics by Don Black. YouTube - Dame Shirley Bassey - Our Time Is Now (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRKVAQEXVEQ)
Sanico
01-31-2011, 04:42 PM
I'm very saddened by this news.
John Barry was one of the composers that cemented my love of music written for movies. An artist in the true sense of the word.
I discovered his music when for the first time I watched Dances with Loves on TV. Then I knew that he had composed many other scores before, and since then he become one of my favorites.
He surely will be missed and never forgotten.
Tonight I will play in his memory Dances with Wolves...and drop a tear.
May he rest in peace.
Lens of Truth
01-31-2011, 04:51 PM
I hope people don't mind me saying, but listening through some of my favourite of John Barry's scores, the music seems to have taken on a profound new dimension: the wisdom of his careful, slow themes, the deeply-felt, unashamed emotion, wide panoramas, quiet, patient reflection, all so composed and measured. For want of a better analogy, Barry seems to have been (among other things) the Mozart of film music - the juxtapositions in Out of Africa and Frances are hardly unflattering! Those rich, stately inner string lines, interleaving with one another - absolute perfection! This is something much more abiding than 'sentiment'.
masterocho
01-31-2011, 05:40 PM
I just read the John Barry news, myself. 2011 is wasting no time killing off our greats. 2010 had the decency to wait until May 10, for me.
Barry, to me, is the quintessential movie composer. His chameleon like abilities to create unique scores tailored made for the attitudes and styles of the films he was scoring was fantastic. He was concerned first and foremost with the experience of the movie. Even if the movies he composed for weren't all that great, the scores rarely were.
Joseph
01-31-2011, 06:04 PM
Well, this is terrible news to wake up to. :-(
Monty Norman always gets credit for The Theme, but everyone knows that John Barry made the music of 007 what it is. I haven't heard much of his material beyond Bond, but I remember being moved by the music in "Inside Moves," which was as offbeat and tender as the characters themselves. My favorite Bond score of his is "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," which has this one really nice melody as the love theme.
R.I.P. Barry
Lens of Truth
01-31-2011, 06:36 PM
Barry's 'freshening-up' of the Bond Theme is fascinating to me. Where does Monty Norman end and John Barry begin? You only have to listen to the rest of Dr No's score to realise that Norman's music is resolutely in the vanilla end of the spectrum - no verve, no syncopation. I imagine it was something like the Dr Who scenario, when Ron Grainer heard Delia Derbyshire's 'realisation' of his theme and said with genuine shock "did I compose that?".
tangotreats
01-31-2011, 10:54 PM
You only need to listen to the piece of "music" Norman used to prove his ownership, to know just how much of it was Barry... Good Sign, Bad Sign - YouTube - Good Sign, Bad Sign (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6EuzGhIyRQ) - a monstrosity of a song which shares two or three notes but no personality whatsoever with the Bond theme as we know it. John Barry wrote that theme; that much is clear. It pains me to say it (because he is still with us, and I wish no ill will whatsoever to the elderly) but Norman is a bitter old man who cannot deal with the fact that it was Barry's skills, and not his own, that went on to create those timeless scores and that iconic theme. It must be even more painful for him, that the theme incorporates some of his raw material but that he lacked the ability to realise it as Barry did.
The comments made by him and his wife at the court case ("She said that at that time Barry was not very widely known. Barry and Norman met once at Norman's flat. She clearly remembers making them tea/coffee and the leaving them to work. She could hear Monty singing and playing the piano. She knew that it was Monty because it was very good (!!!). There was a later meeting at Norman's country house when Barry arrived with a 'pretty Scandinavian girl'") highlight that quite clearly.
A chicken cannot claim ownership of a cake, on the grounds that it laid the egg that was used (in concert with twenty other meticulously selected ingredients) by a skilled baker.
Bond theme without Barry? Nothing at all.
Bond theme without Norman? Would've been undoubtedly different, but probably just as great. One only needs to compare Barry's oeuvre to Norman's to see which of the two men posessed skill.
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