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arthierr
05-03-2012, 02:36 AM
Nope. Only Starhawk will, apparently.

WildwoodPark
05-03-2012, 02:39 AM
I am waiting for The Hawk Is Dying soundtrack, Star~WarHawk never played em'.

Lhurgoyf
05-03-2012, 07:54 AM
Oh wow, Starhawk is a sure buy for me... Lennertz is unfortunately a very underrated composer (it eludes me why) - he was able to compose the material for Medal of Honor series of same quality that Michael Giacchino did.

If you have a chance, check out his score for a videogame called GUN, that is the absolute best music he ever composed.

Lens of Truth
05-03-2012, 01:14 PM
Hideki Sakamoto
Orchestral Works

St. Petersburg State Academic Symphony Orchestra



Thread 113521

The suite from No Heroes Allowed! that opens this disc is a robust orchestral romp with a 'symphonic dance' feel and very enjoyable indeed. The remaining arrangements are of Sakamoto's brilliantly abstract music for Echochrome. These lose the purity and concentration of the originals, but are proficiently done, and the perfect solution for anyone who finds string quartet texture fatiguing on the ear over long periods.

Thanks to kanoder for this great upload!

Lens of Truth
05-03-2012, 02:36 PM
Kid Icarus Uprising
Shin Hikari Shinwa Palutena no Kagami Music Selection
Motoi Sakuraba, Yuzo Koshiro, Yasunori Mitsuda, Noriyuki Iwadare, Masafumi Takada



FLAC - Log - Cue - Full Scans - Ripped with EAC
KIU.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?40hbb3zfr73up3v)
KIU.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?v6n31muaah4ylus)
KIU.part3.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?b8jndoch85l0l92)

MP3-V0
http://www.mediafire.com/?bagk25gl8n9b0m6

Another rip in case anyone missed this fun soundtrack. The more the merrier right.. ;)

arthierr
05-03-2012, 11:53 PM
Lovely post, Lens. Thanks a lot! :)

As I don't know anything about this score, I'll just trust your choice - and of course the prestigious names credited! I would have loved to also have your personal opinion on it. Also, I can only admire once again your genuine artistic sense: using the two dominant colors of the cover for the text is quite tasteful and elegant (something you already did a few times before).


And as promised:

A robust, very brassy, bold and energetic score, full of action and testosterone. Perhaps a little too much for me, who needs some moments of emotion and lyricism in my music at times, which are happily frequent in asian scores. Anyway, fans of pure, unashamed orchestral action shouldn't be disappointed. Interestingly enough, some parts sound rather similar to Lair (listen to 1:05 in "Glory").



Christopher Lennertz
Warhawk




Download mirrors for warhawk.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/WPJEDOQF/warhawk.rar_links)

MP3 256 kbps / 116 MB

Tracklist:

01. The Warhawk
02. Clear Skies
03. Home Base
04. Boots On The Ground
05. Danger On All Sides
06. Dark Pursuit
07. Archer's Run
08. Flying Warriors
09. Dire Spiral
10. Red Mercury
11. On The Lookout
12. Honor
13. Dangerous Territory
14. Fly To Victory
15. Battle Of The Kraken
16. March To Kreel's Door
17. The Dominator
18. War Machine
19. Saar Showdown
20. Glory

Sirusjr
05-04-2012, 12:23 AM
Thanks Arthierr!

Also great posts Lens of Truth, really good material.

Vinphonic
05-05-2012, 10:44 PM
It has been ages since I last listened to Warhawk. Still the same bombastic music. If only this would be the standard of all Blockbuster scores I would bother to check out new film score releases more frequently. I watched Avengers a week ago and did not notice anything memorable whatsoever (Warhawk would have been a treat with the visuals on the big screen), the music was at least orchestral but still not interesting. I mean we're talking about Alan Silvestri, not Steve Jablonsky.

Kid Icarus on the other hand is fantastic. A real firecracker. Shame Nintendo once again has to prove that it shows little respect for the music of it's games (Skyward Sword soundtrack anyone?). No music of Chapter 17, the solo menu, the final battle or the aftermath before the credits. A 2CD soundtrack would have done the score more justice but as of now I strongly recommend to check out the gamerip my kid icarus uprising gamerip (Thread 112208).

The only thing that bugged me about the score is the final battle itself. Everything else properly ends or fades out, not so much during the climax as it is highly sequenced. So I quickly arranged a single final battle track with no sudden endings. I hope you guys enjoy it.



Chapter 25: The War's End ~Final Battle~.mp3 (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0HEVDDVM/Kid_Icarus_Uprising_-_Final_Battle.mp3_links)

JBarron2005
05-06-2012, 04:08 AM
The crafting the soundtrack video was awesome. I can't wait for this. Rumor has it that La La Land is going to be releasing the soundtrack on CD for those who don't want to buy the limited edition game.

I'm so glad that Lennertz finally has the chance to do something amazing, instead of the comedy scores he has been working on lately. He has some great chops from his early work on the Medal of Honor scores and it sounds like the studio here is giving him the leeway to write something big and thematic.

One of my all time favorite scores by Lennertz is Gun. I just love that main theme and the score just has a different sound in comparison to others in the genre. He is highly underrated and quite a talented composer, imo. This could be the best orchestral vgm soundtrack this year! The Main Theme for Starhawk sounds a little like Gun and that is most certainly a good thing! Oh and the end of it sounds like it would do better for Transformers than Jablonsky's music lol.

JRL3001
05-06-2012, 09:47 AM
Starhawk - Crafting the Soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk81y71n4M)

Main Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpA71K4V1ps&fmt=18)

Music sounds pretty awesome in the intro and on the crafting video...reminds me a bit of Firefly :)

Yen_
05-06-2012, 10:38 PM
This week, Howard Goodall picks out a selection of the best new film soundtracks, as well as profiling the life and career of Erich Wolfgang Korngold � one of Hollywood�s first truly successful film composers.

http://jumbofiles.com/02xumjj8v21k

Play list: http://www.classicfm.co.uk/on-air/playlist/?date=2012-05-05&hour=16

Recorded from UK digital DAB radio at MP2 and converted to MP3-V0 using dBpoweramp. Time 2 hours. 184.9 MB.

Can anyone recommend easy-to-use free software to break this down into smaller chunks and edit out the commercials, with instructions?

arthierr
05-06-2012, 11:02 PM
Thanks for this!

And there's of course the wonderful, ultra convenient and effective mp3DirectCut, which can do that like a breeze, even allowing fade in / out effect, and without any quality loss, if you please!


mp3DirectCut
All you need to cut your mp3
http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html

mp3DirectCut is a fast and extensive audio editor and recorder for compressed mp3. You can directly cut, copy, paste or change the volume with no need to decompress your files for audio editing. This saves encoding time and preserves the original quality, because nothing will be re-encoded. The built in recorder creates mp3 on the fly from your audio input. Using Cue sheets, pause detection or Auto cue you can easily divide long files.

JBarron2005
05-07-2012, 01:58 AM
ERIC WHITACRE - WATER NIGHT THE ALBUM

I'm not sure if many of you have heard the music of Eric Whitacre, but he is quite a songsmith. His most famous works are for choir, but this new album delves into the realm of orchestration. In addition to the orchestra, a choir is added. The excerpts are simply wonderful and without further delay I will post the links to them here. If I manage to find the album I'll post it.

Equus for Orchestra

Eric Whitacre - Equus for Full Orchestra from Water Night (excerpt) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZBLsuIN4Q)

Water Night for Strings

Eric Whitacre - Water Night for Strings from Water Night (excerpt) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kr1n_BwYw8&feature=relmfu)

The River Cam for Cello and Strings

Eric Whitacre - The River Cam for Cello and Strings from Water Night (excerpt) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHUyl_m7j9o&feature=relmfu)

Her Sacred Spirit Soars for SATB Choir

Eric Whitacre - Her Sacred Spirit Soars for SATB from Water Night (excerpt) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02pwAZJ1YUo&feature=relmfu)

I especially love Equus, Water Night, and The River Cam. Enjoy, everyone :).

JBarron2005
05-07-2012, 05:53 PM
STARHAWK ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK BY CHRISTOPHER LENNERTZ

It isn't my upload so the credit goes to The Dual Wielder. Here is the link:

Download mirrors for SH_OST_FTVG.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/LPZHYN19/SH_OST_FTVG.rar_links)

The music is very VERY GOOD just so you all know! This could easily be the best score of the year for me... that is unless Lennertz releases another work ;)!

Aoiichi_nii-san
05-07-2012, 08:40 PM
Philip Wilby (b. 1949, British)
Concerto for Euphonium and Orchestra
performed by the BBC Philharmonic
Yan Pascal Tortelier, conductor
David Childs, Euphonium soloist

An excellent post, and David is an excellent performer- I had the pleasure of being at one of his concerts at Huddersfield, and the masterclass afterwards. Great guy. There's a wealth of excellent brass and wind band music to be explored, and I might have some gems soon.

Sirusjr
05-07-2012, 09:08 PM
STARHAWK ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK BY CHRISTOPHER LENNERTZ

It isn't my upload so the credit goes to The Dual Wielder. Here is the link:

Download mirrors for SH_OST_FTVG.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/LPZHYN19/SH_OST_FTVG.rar_links)

The music is very VERY GOOD just so you all know! This could easily be the best score of the year for me... that is unless Lennertz releases another work ;)!

EH, it is decent. The main theme is solid but I wasn't too excited by the rest of it. The acoustic guitars, harmonica, metal guitars, and ethnic drums don't really add too much to the score. It could have been a lot better. I enjoyed Warhawk a LOT more.

JBarron2005
05-08-2012, 02:06 AM
Sirius,

Really? I found the orchestration well done and the performance top-notch. That main theme is nice though :). Did you happen to check out the Eric Whitacre stuff?

Sirusjr
05-08-2012, 02:45 AM
Sirius,

Really? I found the orchestration well done and the performance top-notch. That main theme is nice though :). Did you happen to check out the Eric Whitacre stuff?

Just now checking out the Whitacre stuff. It sounds nice but I would probably need to hear the full cues to fully digest and rate it. He certainly knows how to write emotional music.

JBarron2005
05-08-2012, 06:05 AM
I have been searching for the album on the net, but to no avail. I might have to go purchase it and then share it. His composition called October is on YouTube in its entirety. It is another beautiful piece.

October - Eric Whitacre - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TuMsn270O4&feature=related)

Or if you would prefer strings then you may listen to this one as well...

October (String Version) - Eric Whitacre - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O0CvYOelDw&feature=related)

chancth
05-09-2012, 04:43 PM
I'm sorry if it has been posted...

Takayuki Hattori - Karei naru Ichizoku OST (2007)
Performed by London Philharmonia Orchestra and conducted by Takayuki Hattori.

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/karei.jpg/)



Thanks for this very enjoyable score. Pitty that the last part of first cue is underused because it is really great

---------- Post added at 09:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 AM ----------



Kid Icarus Uprising
Shin Hikari Shinwa Palutena no Kagami Music Selection
Motoi Sakuraba, Yuzo Koshiro, Yasunori Mitsuda, Noriyuki Iwadare, Masafumi Takada




Thank U Lens

NaotaM
05-09-2012, 10:03 PM
So, Yasunori Mitsuda and Wataru Hokoyama are working on a fall rpg called Soul Sacrifice from Keiji Inafune. No word on whether they'll both compose or Hokoyama will just be an orchestrator, but either way, it's like peanut butter and chocolate as far as I' m concerned.

I'd link the teaser trailer if it contained any actual music.

tangotreats
05-09-2012, 10:07 PM
Innnnnnnnnnteresting! Mitsuda's been growing on me lately (Inazuma Eleven Chrono Stone is shockingly good) and Hokoyama could orchestrate for Rebecca Black and make it sound good. This is very promising news. Cheers! :)

Sirusjr
05-10-2012, 06:09 AM
Innnnnnnnnnteresting! Mitsuda's been growing on me lately (Inazuma Eleven Chrono Stone is shockingly good) and Hokoyama could orchestrate for Rebecca Black and make it sound good. This is very promising news. Cheers! :)

Yeah, lets hope that Mitsuda does something good. I haven't heard a really enticing Mitsuda in a long time.

I wouldn't get too excited though, it is an action/horror title.

Right now I'm excited for Dragon's Dogma coming up with music from Tadayoshi Makino, Inon Zur, Rei Kondoh, Chamy.Ishi, arranged by Jonne Valtonen, Roger Wanamo; Aquarion EVOL by Yoko Kanno, Hunter X Hunter OST 2 by Yoshihisa Hirano, Crimson Shroud by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Basiscape, Hiiro no kakera by Nanase Hikaru, and .hack Versus by Chikayo Fukuda.

(side note, it is awesome that the VGMDB contributors are now putting all the Anime releases on there ahead of time so I can actually know what is coming out a month or two in advance! )

aruzeus22
05-12-2012, 04:40 AM
Ok guys, I got two albums for you that I just bought today on a whim because I found them in the $3 clearance section at my local used cd shop that sells lots of CDS from Japan. These two I bought because they are accompanied by orchestra and while one is celtic I thought this is the best place to post it anyway.
Angels_will_Seek_you_From_Heaven_-_Coba_with_Orchestra
|MP3|VBR256|96mb|Ripped from original CD|
|Orchestral/Accordion|


http://rapidshare.com/files/259651019/Angels_will_Seek_you_From_Heaven_-_Coba_with_Orchestra.rar
PSW: smile
I couldn't find any information about this one online so I had to scan the cover myself. Fantastic album though :3[/center]

Unluckily for me, the link is down. Can someone reupload this, please?

Thanks :)

JBarron2005
05-12-2012, 04:40 AM
Eric Whitacre - Water Night (2012) MP3

Decca Records
Performed by Eric Whitacre Singers and London Symphony Orchestra
Featured Artists - Julian Lloyd Webber and Hila Plitmann
Music Composed and Conducted by Eric Whitacre

Tracklist:

1. Alleluia - Eric Whitacre Singers
2. Equus - London Symphony Orchestra
3. Oculi Omnium - Eric Whitacre Singers
4. The River Cam - featuring Julian Lloyd Webber and London Symphony Orchestra
5. Her Sacred Spirit Soars - Eric Whitacre Singers
6. Water Night - London Symphony Orchestra
7. Goodnight Moon - featuring Hila Plitmann and London Symphony Orchestra
8. When David Heard - Eric Whitacre Singers
9. Sleep, My Child - Eric Whitacre Singers

This album is very very well produced and the music is simply beautiful! If I get a hold of the album Light and Gold I will post it as well. Until then, enjoy this!

Download Eric Whitacre - Water Night.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xn1b3t)

thegrizz70x7
05-12-2012, 09:57 AM
[QUOTE=JBarron2005;1991738]Eric Whitacre - Water Night (2012) MP3

thanks for this share, I love the Whitacre choral work I've heard, excited to hear this. When I click on the link though, the page closes itself, not sure why, some kind of error, is this just me?

bishtyboshty
05-12-2012, 10:32 AM
[QUOTE=JBarron2005;1991738]Eric Whitacre - Water Night (2012) MP3

thanks for this share, I love the Whitacre choral work I've heard, excited to hear this. When I click on the link though, the page closes itself, not sure why, some kind of error, is this just me?

Works fine, and downloads for me.

tangotreats
05-12-2012, 07:52 PM
To celebrate a somewhat uncharacteristic good mood, how about another little repost...?




TOSHIHIKO SAHASHI
Gundam Symphony (30th Anniversary) (2009)
London Symphony Orchestra
conducted by Gavin Greenaway



GO4UP (Multiple Mirrors) GO4UP : Upload everywhere ! (http://go4up.com/link.php?id=1DI7ykxabY6w)
GameFront (fast and free in most countries) http://www.gamefront.com/files/21690551/TS_GS_FLAC_rar

My rip. FLAC @ Level 8. Tags in English. Full booklet scan included. 11 Minute bonus video from DVD includd; behind the scenes footage at the recording session and a full movement (10 - The Symphony) in sound and vision.

Bonus video in very high quality with FLAC audio: http://go4up.com/dl/18hV28pcHOFE

There's not really much to say about this. You know what it is. You know it's a masterpiece. You know it's Toshihiko Sahashi unleashed with 85 of the world's finest orchestral musicians.

If you liked Symphony Seed / Symphony Seed Destiny, get this and get it NOW. If you have any interest whatsoever in symphonic, joyous, unabashedly grand sci-fi music just like they don't write any more (except in Japan) this will become an instant favourite. Sahashi has written a 60 minute symphony based on themes from Gundam's first thirty years - from the very first 1979 series all the way up to 2007's Gundam 00. 'Nuff said. Yes, it

REPOST; the links in my original post of this album on January 6th 2010 are all dead, so I have taken the opportunity to upgrade sound quality (to FLAC), and correct some minor niggling errors in the tags. I have also re-encoded the bonus video with significantly improved picture quality and untouched FLAC sound direct from the DVD's LPCM track.

NOTE: For those who obsess over such things, you will notice that the LOG file shows one track (Believe In Love) failed AccurateRip but nevertheless ripped without error. Whoever submitted the original AR results did so with a bad rip; my disc is clean, and I get the same results on three different drives; ergo, the rip is good and AR is wrong.

thegrizz70x7
05-12-2012, 08:01 PM
Hey tango, thanks for the report of Gundam Symphony. I had missed this one before, so thanks for the sound upgrade too, perfect time! Can't wait to hear this.

Sirusjr
05-12-2012, 08:46 PM
Eric Whitacre - Water Night (2012) MP3

Decca Records
Performed by Eric Whitacre Singers and London Symphony Orchestra
Featured Artists - Julian Lloyd Webber and Hila Plitmann
Music Composed and Conducted by Eric Whitacre

Tracklist:

1. Alleluia - Eric Whitacre Singers
2. Equus - London Symphony Orchestra
3. Oculi Omnium - Eric Whitacre Singers
4. The River Cam - featuring Julian Lloyd Webber and London Symphony Orchestra
5. Her Sacred Spirit Soars - Eric Whitacre Singers
6. Water Night - London Symphony Orchestra
7. Goodnight Moon - featuring Hila Plitmann and London Symphony Orchestra
8. When David Heard - Eric Whitacre Singers
9. Sleep, My Child - Eric Whitacre Singers

This album is very very well produced and the music is simply beautiful! If I get a hold of the album Light and Gold I will post it as well. Until then, enjoy this!

Download Eric Whitacre - Water Night.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xn1b3t)

Uh wow, 80kbps? And it doesn't sound like complete shit either. Where in gods name did you find 80kbps music to begin with? Thanks for sharing :)
EDIT: OK well it is full of artifacts like something you'd find on youtube these days but what can you do.

Anyway thanks Tango for the upgrade :) Much needed.

Isaias Caetano
05-12-2012, 11:32 PM
Eric Whitacre - Water Night (2012) MP3

Decca Records
Performed by Eric Whitacre Singers and London Symphony Orchestra
Featured Artists - Julian Lloyd Webber and Hila Plitmann
Music Composed and Conducted by Eric Whitacre

Tracklist:

1. Alleluia - Eric Whitacre Singers
2. Equus - London Symphony Orchestra
3. Oculi Omnium - Eric Whitacre Singers
4. The River Cam - featuring Julian Lloyd Webber and London Symphony Orchestra
5. Her Sacred Spirit Soars - Eric Whitacre Singers
6. Water Night - London Symphony Orchestra
7. Goodnight Moon - featuring Hila Plitmann and London Symphony Orchestra
8. When David Heard - Eric Whitacre Singers
9. Sleep, My Child - Eric Whitacre Singers
Time: 1:16:10
This album is very very well produced and the music is simply beautiful! If I get a hold of the album Light and Gold I will post it as well. Until then, enjoy this!

Download Eric Whitacre - Water Night.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xn1b3t)


Eric Whitacre's 'Water Night'

Part of Titanic Belfast Festival 2012. A truly unique experience, this world premiere of Eric Whitacre's beautiful audio-visual installation, 'Water Night' is a delicate, commemorative experience to mark the historic evening of 14 April which changed the course of the Titanic journey forever. 'Water Night', recorded by singers from across the globe, is Grammy award winning Eric's third virtual choir, illuminated by stunning visuals and immersive sound in this exclusive first viewing at Titanic Belfast.

tangotreats
05-12-2012, 11:43 PM
Bored sick by Water Night. Whitacre is the biggest fraud since Hans Zimmer.

Doublehex
05-13-2012, 02:28 AM
So, the Diablo III soundtrack got leaked a few days premature, and I have to say it is pretty awesome. For your listening pleasure (http://www.mediafire.com/?m2tp3v9zy9j2dwb), I put in the OST plus Uelmen's two concept music and Brower's Overture.

Now, I need to say a few things about this soundtrack. I have a feeling this is going to be one of "those" releases, where it causes another storm of debate and discussion from within the community here. I got into a bit of a debate with Sirusjr over it - I felt it was a fantastic score. Not a masterpiece, but certainly nothing to sneeze at either. He felt it was a bore.

So, what is it about this score that makes me so damn excited about it? Because it is a natural progression from Uelmen's masterful work for Lord of Destruction. Brower looked at this project, and he knew that he couldn't do the easy route of going to Diablo 1 and 2's atmospheric musical scenery. That was not Uelmen's vision - Uelmen started with LoD a massive, operatic musical landscape. Brower knew he had to honor it, and sweet Jesus did he hit the ball out of the park.

This is predominantly an orchestral score, full of sweeping strings, subtle brass and engrossing chorus. StarCraft II was, absolutely, a blockbuster score. It was well written, but it was not subtle. It was loud, it was in your face, it had some minor RCPish synth. It was sugar. A very nicely cooked dessert, mind you, but dessert none the less. With Diablo III Brower prepared for us something else. The only time we get something that is loud would be for the cinematic pieces (The Eternal Conflict, Azmodan, I Am Justice, Heaven's Gate, A New Dawn and Leah). Everything else...well, it's subtle. I know I said that once before - and I'm sure you'll forgive me for being somewhat repetitive here - but all of the other pieces aren't quite as blatant about what they are saying. It's because all of the other pieces aren't saying just one thing - they aren't trying to make you just scared, or mesmerized, or intrigued. They are saying things beyond that. The state of the world, the psychology of the denizens of the world, the zeitgeist of the Heavens and the Hells.

I mean, let's look at the New Tristram theme (yes, that's a double meaning to both the name of the town and the fact it's the newest Tristram theme). It has roots to both of Uelmen's Tristram themes. It has those guitar strings, it has the minimalistic approch. It has that sense of a town in perpetual danger but still being on the outskirts of it as well. But with Brower's, we get the sense that this is a new Tristram. This is a Tristram that, despite it's ancestry, is different from the others. Maybe because it has the legacy of heroes, but it seems a more united, stronger Tristram than the one overwhelmed by the Dark Wanderer 20 years ago.

The Diablo 3 music is great music for two reasons. One, I feel it honors Uelmen's great legacy while at the same time forging a new one. It doesn't feel like it is enslaved by Uelmen's work - it forges it's own soul - but it still says "Thank You Uelmen, for laying the foundations". How many times can we say a sequel score, composed by someone who didn't score the previous entries in the franchise, have done this? Shirley Walker? Michael Giacchino, maybe? Not too many others.

Secondly, I feel this music isn't direct about what it's saying. It's more complicated than that. Minus the themes that are direct, these themes are more than just the landscape. They are about the soul of them as well.

Now, some will criticize the score with saying that it's not very memorable - as in, you really can't hum to them that well. The ideas stay in your head, but the melodies are more distant. I would argue that doesn't make them bad - it just makes them complex, multi layered ideas. I mean, Mahler, Brahm and Bach aren't exactly "hummable" in that respect but they are some of the greatest composers of all time. Period. I'm not saying Diablo III is up there in terms of quality - it's a very good score, but not a great one - but it's in that style.

Ladies and gentlemen, I await for you to tell me why I am full of shit.

JBarron2005
05-13-2012, 03:26 AM
Uh wow, 80kbps? And it doesn't sound like complete shit either. Where in gods name did you find 80kbps music to begin with? Thanks for sharing :)
EDIT: OK well it is full of artifacts like something you'd find on youtube these days but what can you do.

I'm not very knowledgeable on ripping things, but I have done this myself. I will toy with my copy of Nero and see if I can post a better version. I hope you enjoyed it for I thought it was beautiful even if Tango didn't like it lol.

Tango,

I wouldn't go as far to put him in the same league with Zimmer, but to each his own I suppose. We will most certainly disagree about it, so I'll save the debate and accept it ;).

tangotreats
05-13-2012, 12:18 PM
Who in the world is Brahm? I prefer Elga, Beethove, Vaugha William, Shostakovic, and Schoenber.

arthierr
05-13-2012, 06:15 PM
'Nuff said. Yes, it

Errr, it WHAT?

Suggestions:

a) it freakin' rocks.

b) it tastes like freshly baked pie.

c) it puts RCP clowns to shame.

d) it's not the level of Brahm, but it's pretty decent nonetheless!

Doublehex
05-13-2012, 07:10 PM
It took me 5 times of re-reading your post to make sense of what you were saying arthierr. Mostly because my brain kept on skipping the part of the post you were quoting.

tangotreats
05-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Haha! That's what you get from editing and re-editing old posts in the middle of the night and not checking them for flow, I guess...

I believe the sentence was going to go address some of the Kanno-esque thievery that takes place within... but I decided to leave my post a rare, 100% positive one. ;)

Doublehex
05-13-2012, 07:32 PM
Haha! That's what you get from editing and re-editing old posts in the middle of the night and not checking them for flow, I guess...

I believe the sentence was going to go address some of the Kanno-esque thievery that takes place within... but I decided to leave my post a rare, 100% positive one. ;)

We all know the feeling tango. I can't count how many times I posted one of my rips in the Film section because it was after a long session and it was getting late and my comprehension of common sense had quickly died on me by that point.

Sirusjr
05-13-2012, 07:42 PM
Well I tried to listen to Diablo 3 a second time to give it another chance, but I couldn't make it to the end. I just can't help feeling it was a missed opportunity for great music. They seem to have had a good orchestra available but the music is always so minimalist, subdued, and lacking in complex orchestrations that I couldn't enjoy it one bit. It suffers from overly slow writing that I couldn't enjoy at all. It also has all the trappings of a modern hollywood score - wailing woman vocals, over-use of percussion, electric guitar, too much synth, etc.

It feels like most of it is meant to be moody writing, and i'm sure it works well in the game itself but as a stand-alone listen it doesn't do anything for me.

Lens of Truth
05-14-2012, 01:37 PM
Georges Delerue
Music from the Films of Fran�ois Truffaut

Hugh Wolff conducting the London Sinfonietta



FLAC + scans
GDFT.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?ekrjkt25z5jdrfg)
GDFT.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?kd8x6evdtjl88m4)

There've been quite a few nice Delerue items cropping up of late. Here's another rather special one. Essential for fans of the composer and a great introduction for those less familiar, it's a beautifully recorded disc, brimming over with Delerue's special brand of urbane romanticism and Gallic charm. I can't do it any justice by describing or singling out tracks; the whole thing plays like a dream.

Enjoy! :)

Sirusjr
05-14-2012, 04:19 PM
Lovely, thanks Lens :) Delerue is a great composer and I need all the quality recordings of his work I can get.

ShadowSong
05-14-2012, 08:53 PM
I put in the OST plus Uelmen's two concept music and Brower's Overture.


Why is 90% of the track entitled "Lord" from Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. I mean if they would say they were integrating the piece into this score I would be fine with it, even applaud it. But lets not pretend they came up with it. I haven't listened to the whole thing so maybe they never used it in the final game and it was just an of the sound they were looking for.

Doublehex
05-14-2012, 09:14 PM
Why is 90% of the track entitled "Lord" from Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. I mean if they would say they were integrating the piece into this score I would be fine with it, even applaud it. But lets not pretend they came up with it. I haven't listened to the whole thing so maybe they never used it in the final game and it was just an of the sound they were looking for.

I believe that is the purpose of calling it "Concept Piece". It was Uelmen tooling around with the sound he was looking for before he left Blizzard. He integrated classical pieces into Lord of Destruction, so it's not like this is anything new.

But, how the heck is this 90% of Rite of Spring? It's at most, 25% by my eager estimates.

Isaias Caetano
05-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Georges Delerue
Music from the Films of Fran�ois Truffaut

Hugh Wolff conducting the London Sinfonietta


Muito Obrigado

Yen_
05-15-2012, 10:12 AM
Thanks for this!

And there's of course the wonderful, ultra convenient and effective mp3DirectCut, which can do that like a breeze, even allowing fade in / out effect, and without any quality loss, if you please!


mp3DirectCut
All you need to cut your mp3
mp3DirectCut - editor to cut, fade, split and record compressed mpeg audio (http://mpesch3.de1.cc/mp3dc.html)

mp3DirectCut is a fast and extensive audio editor and recorder for compressed mp3. You can directly cut, copy, paste or change the volume with no need to decompress your files for audio editing. This saves encoding time and preserves the original quality, because nothing will be re-encoded. The built in recorder creates mp3 on the fly from your audio input. Using Cue sheets, pause detection or Auto cue you can easily divide long files.

Thanks arthierr, I tried to download this software on Windows Vista and Windows 7 computers, but all I get is the message �Could not create the target directory. Access is denied.� Any suggestions please?

TazerMonkey
05-15-2012, 05:14 PM
Thanks arthierr, I tried to download this software on Windows Vista and Windows 7 computers, but all I get is the message �Could not create the target directory. Access is denied.� Any suggestions please?

Are you running the install app as an Administrator?

Yen_
05-15-2012, 07:03 PM
Thanks for the advice Tazer, I just worked out how to do it (I didn't realise the Administrator bit) and am learning how to use the application now.

Herr Salat
05-15-2012, 09:54 PM
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Lens of Truth
05-15-2012, 11:23 PM
The tracks from Deux Anglaises sound great there, thanks!

It's years since I've seen Jules et Jim, but I remember the music being a very forthright component, contributing both in the traditional 'heightening' sense of suspense/emotion and also as a sort of detached, humourous reflection. Very few composers can do this and wear their heart on their sleeve at the same time.

Sanico
05-16-2012, 12:57 AM
By request of Lens here is the reupload of the Film Music of Toru Takemitsu.





The Film Music of Toru Takemitsu

1. Rikyu
2. Music of Training and Rest (from Jos� Torres)
3. Funeral Music (from Black Rain)
4. Waltz (from The Face of Another)
5. Harakiri
6. Banished Orin
7. Kaseki (The Fossil)
8. Empire of Passion
9. Dodes'kaden
10. Woman in the Dunes

All Tracks @ MP3 VBR -V 0
Deposit Files (http://depositfiles.com/files/2wxjnxym7)



The films listed above will not be familiar to many western moviegoers but they will have the opportunity to evaluate these ten selections on their merit as music away from the screenplays. They will not be disappointed. This is music that continually surprises. It is daring, it is challenging, it ravishes and disturbs the ear. It traverses a tremendous range of styles and embraces some extremely unusual sound effects and instrumentations.

Also visit the allmusic page of the album for a review: The Film Music Of Toru Takemitsu - London Sinfonietta | AllMusic (http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-film-music-of-toru-takemitsu-w16701)

Enjoy :)

Isaias Caetano
05-16-2012, 04:00 AM
Georges Delerue - The Film Music of Fran�ois Truffaut: Les Passions Amouresues (AAC)





Obrigado

Yen_
05-16-2012, 06:55 PM
JumboFiles.com - Dedicated Hosting (http://jumbofiles.com/ukn0at62otd0)

Play list: On air | Playlist - Classic FM (http://www.classicfm.co.uk/on-air/playlist/?date=2012-05-12&hour=16&=Go)

Recorded from UK digital DAB radio at MP2 and converted to MP3-V0 using dBpoweramp. Time 2 hours. 175.6 MB.

arthierr
05-16-2012, 10:38 PM
Michiru Oshima
Hana Yori Dango
Variations Hana-Dan




Download mirrors for Hana_Yori_Dango_-_Variations_Hana-Dan.zip - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/RWRPLZFF/Hana_Yori_Dango_-_Variations_Hana-Dan.zip_links)

1. Main Theme Variation #1: Dramatic 2:17
2. Fantasia #1: Tsukushi's Theme 6:00
3. Interlude #1: Anxiety ~ Tension ~ Anger 6:12
4. Fantasia #2: Tsubasa Domioji's Theme 7:25
5. Main Theme Variation #2: Gentle Warmth 2:40
6. Adagio (Love Theme #1) 8:42
7. Interlude #2: Ijime: Dan Dan to Hageshiku 4:07
8. Fantasia #3: Valley of Flowers—Louis's Theme 7:36
9. Adagietto Symphony #5, Mvmt. 4 (Love Theme #2) 10:13
10. Main Theme Variation #3: Cheerful 2:02


This is quite an interesting album since it's very much classically inspired; Oshima's thorough classical training fully appears and is brilliantly expressed in these tastefully arranged pieces. Another album to illustrate this media / art music discussion we had some time ago, and which shows that the gap between these two worlds isn't so large, after all.

Here's a piece of review with some interesting classical references:


As one might expect in a series about a private school where refinement—at least on the surface—is the norm, the music is tailored to match. Aside from the Fab Four-ish TV opening theme, much of the music is classical. The VARIATIONS—"Hana-Dan" album presents the themes for the principal characters, along with some rather interesting symphonic versions of the opening theme and situation themes.

The three variations of the opening theme are quite pleasant, with a sound much like that of an Erik Satie composition, though the third variation is very Chip Davis (the mind behind Mannheim Steamroller) in essence. They only have one minor drawback: they are too short. The Vaughan Williams-inspired character themes tend to remind listeners of that kind of music heard in a Disney film. Tsubasa's Theme, in particular, evokes visions of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice". Louis's theme, as one might expect, features a solo violinist. The love theme is worthy of note, though it might be more accurately referred to as the rape theme. Those who have seen past the ninth episode of the series will understand. Intentions aside, the theme suggests influences by Pachelbel (famous for that canon the Gallo wine commericials use as BGM). Both love theme compositions are rather long, but if they are played as background music while working at a desk, they go by rather nicely.
Variations - "Hana-Dan" (http://www.ex.org/2.8/31-cd_hanadan.html)

Yen_
05-16-2012, 10:58 PM
[QUOTE=Herr Salat;1994234][center]Georges Delerue
The Film Music of Fran�ois Truffaut

Ah, such sweet melancholia, thanks for sharing Mr Salat. If you like the music to Two English Girls, you should listen to the lush orchestral backing music to the singer Frida Boccara's songs from the album of her name, especially 'Un jour, un enfant' (one of the four Eurovision winning songs from 1969) and 'Belle du Luxembourg', which sounds quite similar to your soundtrack, and very moving.


Track list

Jules et Jim [Jules and Jim] (1962)
01. G�n�rique (by Maurice Jaubert) [2:16]
02. Vacances [2:47]
03. Le tourbillon [2:06]
04. Brouillard [2:44]

La peau douce [The Soft Skin] (1964)
05. Piere et Nicole [2:45]
06. Retour � l'hotel [2:18]
07. A Lisbonne [1:38]
08. Th�me de Franca [1:40]

Deux anglaises et le continent [Two English Girls] (1971)
09. Prologue [[2:22]
10. Anne et Claude au Mus�e [2:31]
11. La d�claration D'amour [2:27]
12. Le d�sespoir de Muriel [3:53]
13. Une petite ile [1:36]
14. Anne et Claude [2:06]
15. La rupture [2:21]
16. Muriel et Claude [1:34]
17. Epilogue [3:50]

L'histoire d'Ad�le H. [The Story of Adele H.] (1975)
18. Pr�ambule de la Suite Fran�aise [1:36]
19. Air de la Suite Fran�aise [4:24]
20. Ronde de la Suite Fran�aise [2:26]
21. Danse Pascuane (n�8) de l'Ile de P�ques [2:14]

L'homme qui aimait les femmes [The Man Who Loved Women (1977)
22. Ouverture et forlane des interm�des pour orchestre a Cordes [3:17]
23. Chacone des interm�des pour orchestre � cordes [1:32]

La femme d'� c�t� [The Woman Next Door] (1981)
24. La femme d'� c�t� [2:14]
25. La jalousie [1:26]
26. Le secret de madame Jouve [2:49]
27. L'amour dans la voiture [2:09]
28. Mathilde s'effondre [1:35]
29. Ni avec toi ni sans toi [3:38]
30. Epilogue [3:59]

tangotreats
05-16-2012, 11:41 PM
Arthierr, what a splendid album, my friend!

If I were you, I wouldn't put too much stock in that typically illiterate review.

For starters, the reviewer fails to notice that track 9 is in fact Mahler's fifth symphony. You would expect Mr Brainbox to realise that in the midst of his name-dropping exercise (let's bring up names of celebrity classical composers randomly to show off how clever I am.)

Vaughan Williams-inspired character themes? WHERE? They don't sound like Vaughan Williams - they sound like Michiru Oshima!

Not to mention the Pachabel-inspired piece... Show off your classical-fu by revealing that it was "BGM in a wine commercial" - yes, yes, that will get you respect from classical music aficionados! Quite apart from all that, it's more Bach than Pachabel.

And Tsubasa's theme evokes The Sorcerer's Apprentice? Does it bollocks! And run it down because it makes you think you're watching a Disney movie? Riiiiiiiiight. Criticise something for sounding like a piece of classical music (which it doesn't) and deride it because that imaginary comparison is synonymous with Disney - despite the fact that Fantasia is a superb film, about as far away from traditional Disney movies as you can get, and the bloody piece of music in question was written four years before Walt Disney was even form and fourty-five years before Fantasia was made.

Finally, Eric Satie? Has the guy ever heard any Satie? Dear God. For his next review, I'm sure he'll tell us that Star Wars Main Title was inspired by Mozart's first flute concerto and that the Imperial March is significantly derived from John Cage's 4'33".

Reviews like that make me want to reach through the computer screen and punch the moron on the other side.

AAAAAANYWAY, rant aside - WONDERFUL ALBUM! Perhaps this explains how Yamashita ended up working on the live-action adapatation of this series ten years later!

:D

arthierr
05-17-2012, 12:07 AM
So you mean it's Oshima who's the only composer here, while Yamashita actually came ten years later to score the sequels?

About the review, I didn't really check if it's accurate or not, I just took the first (and only) review I found, and since the album sounded very classical to me (long ago when I first heard it), I just assumed the guy was mostly correct.

Oh, and another (recent) Oshima coming soon, a deliciously asian epic score.

Vinphonic
05-17-2012, 02:31 PM
Buddha?! (please)

Fantastic album! Huge thanks, arthierr. I take everything from Yamashita and Oshima without a single shred of doubt that it's going to be a delight for my ears.

On another note I recently found a score from Inon Zur that I enjoy, despite the fact that the Opening track is a carbon copy of his Crysis Theme and surprsingly the worst track on the album. I expected the rest to be more of the same crap (I don't get why he is on so many asian projects and gets promoted to hell and back when the only result I'm hearing is something dreadful like Soul Calibur V), but thankfully it's not and worth a listen.

TERA Online OST - Homecoming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvwETwhyvS8&list=PL4B32F9DC756AE83E&index=12&feature=plpp_video)

TERA Online OST - City of Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1I5WoVJQ9I)

TERA Online OST - Godspeed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIVP1guB7nk)

I don't get why the opening track is so lackluster in comparison to tracks like these (either that or Rod Abernethy makes all the difference here).

tangotreats
05-17-2012, 04:42 PM
If it IS Buddha I'll be very, very surprised, since it never received a release as far as I know. I heard the score in the movie, though - it's rather good but nothing unusual for Oshima.

TERA Online...: UGH CHEAP SYNTH! MY EARS HURT!

Vinphonic
05-17-2012, 05:30 PM
Buddha is right up there with King of Thorn and the more recent "The Princess and the Pilot" as scores that SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED. I mean nowadays even the most shitty indie game gets a soundtrack release in one way or another but these huge "blockbuster" movies with (relatively) big budgets and fantastic music from well known composers don't ... in Japan. If you have all this fantastic music and a good share of fans that will certainly buy the soundtrack then why not release it. Even the shitty bundle option would at least be a way to get the music out and also a reason to sell at a higher price. Sometimes I just don't understand why the world works the way it does.


About TERA: Don't worry, I will put up a warning sign for you next time. I promise. ;)

Faleel
05-17-2012, 07:56 PM
"There is no comparison...."

STTMP 3-CD set!

"Star Trek: The Motion Picture" Soundtrack Celebration, 6/4/12 | Creature Features (http://www.creaturefeatures.com/2012/05/star-trek-soundtrack-celebration/)

Yen_
05-17-2012, 08:46 PM
Here is one of my favourite pieces of music:



Composed by Philip Glass
Dennis Russell Davies, piano and conductor
Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra
Rasch�r Saxophone Quartet
Label and CD number: Orange Mountain Music OMM-0011


TIROL CONCERTO FOR PIANO AND ORCHESTRA
1. Movement I [6:01]
2. Movement II [16:30]
3. Movement III [6:12]

SELECTIONS FROM PASSAGES. Arranged by Dennis Russell Davies
4. Offering [10:08]
5. Channels and Winds [8:08]
6. Meetings Along the Edge [8:48]


Copied from my CD in FLAC via dbPoweramp and MP3-320 via WMP, artwork included.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/dennis-russell-davies-performs-philip-glass-2004-a-114032/#post1995775

Vinphonic
05-18-2012, 12:51 AM
Gaia Gear Musical Suite
Kawasaki Masahiro



Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1EBRNLHG/Gaia_Gear.zip_links)

So here is something I've been listening to all day. A little symphonic suite, 18 minutes long but everything you miss from modern hollywood. The first movement is my personal favorite, a symphonic version of MAN MACHINE GO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKBqNbJOIVU) (with less obvious introduction), full of adventure and excitement. Enjoy.

gururu
05-18-2012, 01:41 AM
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de ~ Hachiyo Sho Original Soundtrack
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/58c4da1d72996579fec405122f7086680402735813b9635ea9 008372b744720c6g.jpg
MP3 192 kbps - 63.83 MB (http://www.multiupload.com/P93LZFHC6H)

Harukanaru Toki no Naka de ~ The Movie Original Soundtrack
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/f6c435aa7fad8e8c91b2fb57cdbe4c71edf62dca2fe5237186 08f1a6853f3ef76g.jpg
MP3 LAME 3.97b VBR0 - 88.39 MB (http://www.multiupload.com/KSQDJAYLDU)

Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3 Kurenai no Tsuki Original Soundtrack
http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/71f6077e0005ab9e06c3db0f11ce907300508b99f0c0f9cd98 1bb270a5d0c5026g.jpg
MP3 320 kbps - 87.3 MB (http://www.multiupload.com/559FXH58DH)

And I think the set of Hirano's soundtracks for the franchise is completed by Sirusjr's post of Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3: Owari Naki Unmei (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/250.html#post1535978).!

Might I ask for a re-upload? Thanks.

Isaias Caetano
05-18-2012, 05:05 AM
Here is one of my favourite pieces of music:



Composed by Philip Glass
Dennis Russell Davies, piano and conductor
Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra
Rasch�r Saxophone Quartet
Label and CD number: Orange Mountain Music OMM-0011


OBRIGADO

Isaias Caetano
05-18-2012, 08:15 PM
Battle Royale
by Masamichi Amano





RE-UPLOAD por favor

Herr Salat
05-19-2012, 01:02 AM
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NaotaM
05-19-2012, 02:40 AM
D'awww, beat me to it. :p Thanks a ton, Herr.

So, who else is interested in how they're gonna stretch Symphonic Fantasies Tokyo into two discs?

Aoiichi_nii-san
05-19-2012, 03:43 AM
The Film Music of Toru Takemitsu


Thanks for this upload. If there is any interest, and if anyone can stomach the language, a recent issue of the International of film music had some great articles on Takemitsu which I can post some bits from.

Herr Salat
05-19-2012, 08:07 AM
Please do, Aoiichi_nii-san.

Lens of Truth
05-19-2012, 12:21 PM
May I request...what this composition is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRkvZtAxTXY#t=47s)?
The actualy score (not really orchestral) is by Ryuichi Sakamoto but I think this promotion video music is by someone else. I guess it's part of the canon of classical music.


That's the Act 1 Prelude from Wagner's Die Meistersinger. I've unaccountably had that second subject stomping around in my head for days.

Isaias Caetano
05-19-2012, 03:45 PM
[QUOTE=Herr Salat;1997002]Isaias Caetano, Mr. Obrigado: Your are very polite and have good taste!




Muito Obrigado

Isaias Caetano
05-19-2012, 09:21 PM
Oh, you mean these? ;)


Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend

Music composed by Amano Masamichi

Thanks a lot to Zero Kyori


Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend Complete Collection I

(http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uro001gt3.jpg)

Disc 1 - Legend of the Overfiend
NOTICE (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5YH7EZ1I)

Disc 2 - Legend of the Demon Womb
NOTICE (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KJLBXUO1)


Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend Complete Collection II

(http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uro2001rrqm7.jpg)

Disc 1 - Future Story & Wandering Story (Return of the Overfiend & Inferno Road)
NOTICE (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LY3LBKT1)

Disc 2 - The Wanderer (The Urotsuki)
NOTICE (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EM4NXT0L)


Caro Amigo
Estes links j� n�o funcionam; � p�ss�vel Re-Upload?
Ouvir Amano Masamichi � um deleite !!


� Proposito, a Faixa 01 da "Battle Royale" -
01 Requiem - Prologue
Composed By – Giuseppe Verdi 6:38
o Correto �
01 Requiem Aeternam, todavia o que ouvimos � o "Tuba Mirum"

Herr Salat
05-19-2012, 11:27 PM
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tangotreats
05-19-2012, 11:52 PM
Herr Salat: I believe I heard a rumour a few months ago that Saint Seiya Online is finally on its way. Whatever Amano wrote for it, it's bound to be excellent. I have a feeling it won't be buried for much longer. Amano will probably buy back the rights and release it himself if the game dies officially.


- Guilty Pleasure...Amano is the Japanese James Horner.

I don't at all disagree - but for what it's worth one of the reasons I can forgive Amano's indiscretions is that he's just so damn good. The Japanese have a habit of "appropriating" music from western films for their scores - maybe because it won't be well known in Japan and conversely it's unlikely that the Western rights holders will ever know, or for that matter, care. There is also the tendency to recycle, a-la the old 19th century opera production lines; that's nothing new. IN times past, composers of all sorts and statures helped themselves liberally to great portions of music from not only their own back catalogues but also their musical peers and predecessors.

This has always made me uncomfortable; it's a topic I have discussed at often overwhelming length; suffice to say I can tolerate a lot when the composer is skilled and when he has made good use of his appropriated material. Cases such as Tyler Bates stealing great chunks of Elliot Goldenthal's music, simply because he didn't have the ability to match the quality of Goldenthal's music, are indefensible. Amano, even when he's helping himself to his own music or whole cues from Starship Troopers, at the heart of it there is still a talented musician putting his own unique spin on the music. Whilst it's not necessarily right - I find myself able to enjoy the results of such thievery.

Incidentally - on Battle Royale 2 there is a cue called Getting Weapons and The Death Of Shugo. It is none other than a straight repeat of the setpiece action cue from Urotsukidoji New Saga written about a year previously, with a different melody overlaid - apart from that it's an absolute verbatim performance of the entire five minute cue. He must really, really like that music. Some of the ideas in the cue are heard in a prototypical fashion as early as Giant Robo I (1991), developed a little further in Super Atragon (1996), and they are still re-occuring as late as Mushiking 2 (2007) although he doesn't repeat the entire cue any more. The secondary subject (the grand, soaring string theme) makes a guest appearance in Sin The Movie (1999 in the cue Elyse's Secret, as a faster action motif), in The Aurora (2000) in a choral cue.


- Lots of Starship Troopers (Basil Poledouris) references.

In BR2, absolutely. I wouldn't say "references" though - Amano steals the entire cue Klendathu Drop (four minutes, thirty seconds,) changes the melody, and calls it "The Time To Attack"!

No film composer, not even Horner or Yoko Kanno, to my knowledge, has stolen five continuous minutes of music... other than Amano, who has done it countless times.


- Choral Theme sounds like Vaughan William's Sea Symphony.

I am intimately familiar with RVW's Sea Symphony and have never made a connection. Would you point me to the offending areas, please? :)


- Amano makes the Warsaw Philharmonic sound even smaller than Yoko Kanno does.

SMALLER? :itsamystery:

Herr Salat
05-20-2012, 12:17 AM
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Walpermure
05-20-2012, 01:36 AM
Has anybody got mirrors to the links here? I mean to Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend.

Herr Salat
05-20-2012, 01:43 AM
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Lightning-Blade
05-20-2012, 01:44 AM
So, Yasunori Mitsuda and Wataru Hokoyama are working on a fall rpg called Soul Sacrifice from Keiji Inafune. No word on whether they'll both compose or Hokoyama will just be an orchestrator, but either way, it's like peanut butter and chocolate as far as I' m concerned.

I'd link the teaser trailer if it contained any actual music.

This! Can't wait to hear the music for this game. The game looks really promising too.

Isaias Caetano
05-20-2012, 03:03 AM
Caro Herr Salat,

Errei quanto ao t�tulo da faixa da Missa da Requiem de Giuseppe Verdi (1813-1901), o correto � Dies Irae. Segue a 2a. Faixa do Lp�:
Wiener Philharmoniker & Singverein der Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde, Wien - Fritz Reiner (1965)
Requiem (Verdi) 02 - Dies irae.mp3 - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download - Isaias Caetano da Silva (http://www.4shared.com/mp3/zH7StBSF/Requiem__Verdi__02_-_Dies_irae.html)

Herr Salat
05-20-2012, 09:53 AM
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Isaias Caetano
05-20-2012, 05:37 PM
[QUOTE=Herr Salat;1998105]Dear Isaias Caetano,

I bought this from the iTunes Music Store and I expect the file names to be always right...not this time, I guess. I'll change it to Requiem, Dies irae and re-uploaded the first track with correct file name.


Obrigado pela gentileza

Yen_
05-20-2012, 07:09 PM
Two people said they could not download this at http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/dennis-russell-davies-performs-philip-glass-2004-a-114032/#post1995775, although others apparently managed to. Did anyone here have any problems? Is the fault their end, the hosts, or with my conversions? Expert simple advice from you wonderful knowledgable folk here would be gratefully received!

herbaciak
05-20-2012, 08:27 PM
Did anyone here have any problems?

I wanted to d-load MP3s - it would take me few days;). In a world without megaupload, I found mediafire to be most reliable and fastest host. Except for peejee, which is fast and awesome... and I don't even know what the hell it is.

Bottom line? I had problems:(.

p.s.
About Glass - anyone wants Akhnaten?;)

tangotreats
05-20-2012, 08:36 PM
Yen,

The Jumbofiles FLAC upload is corrupted - track 5 does not extract.
Are you able to extract track 5 from your own copy of the archive?

I get atrocious speeds from Minus so have been unable to test the Minus FLAC or MP3 links... but it definitely looks like something nutty going on at your end. The same issues were observed with your Downton Abbey upload some months ago. Very, very odd...
A great pity - that's a wonderful CD and a million thanks for you sharing it with us. :)

Yen_
05-20-2012, 08:58 PM
Thanks for the advice TT. Track 5 does extract from my WinRAR ZIP archive and plays on VLC. Maybe my software was corrupted. I’ll try and check it out. Please give me some time and I’ll redo Glass and Downton Abbey. I won’t use minus.com as it is so slow now. Is MediaFire.com safe to use (it requires you to sign up now)? I liked peejeshare.com as it was fast and simple but was unobtainable sometimes - has that problem cleared up?

yepsa
05-21-2012, 12:19 AM
Is MediaFire.com safe to use (it requires you to sign up now)? I liked peejeshare.com as it was fast and simple but was unobtainable sometimes - has that problem cleared up?

Peeje seems to have cleared up the problem people had with it taking them to an upload page rather than a download page, and the error messages that appeared sometimes when uploading have been fixed. However, the problem with "all download slots are filled" still persists, which means users are still unable to download some files. I've been trying to download two of my own files since Friday---at all times of the day/night---and still can't. Mediafire is starting to look good!

Doublehex
05-21-2012, 12:28 AM
The biggest drawback with MF is their smallish filesize limit of 250 MB for free users. For those of us that prefers to keep their big uploads to a single file, this is a drawback that makes Peejeshare very appealing.

Yen_
05-21-2012, 01:11 AM
My CD transfers were corrupted. Humble apologies. However, I found FLAC versions from the InterWeb which work (credit to Toutatis):

Download Glass Dennis Russell Davies rar (http://filevelocity.com/gl6q50ic74ir/GlassDennisRussellDavies.rar)
GlassDennisRussellDavies.rar - download now for free. File sharing. Software file sharing. Free file hosting. File upload. FileFactory.com (http://www.filefactory.com/file/c3dc72c/n/GlassDennisRussellDavies.rar)

gururu
05-21-2012, 01:52 AM
Has anybody got mirrors to the links here? I mean to Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend.

Well, I found these on the intertubes without much effort:

Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend I @ 160kbs:



Disc 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?5mwvxlyzhyq
Disc 2: http://www.mediafire.com/?zzdjw3z2jjn

Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend II @ 160kbs:



Disc 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?5aznz2ozdwg
Disc 2: http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/urotsukidoji-legend-ovefiend-ost-58086/2.html#post1461841

streichorchester
05-21-2012, 04:54 AM
Bored sick by Water Night. Whitacre is the biggest fraud since Hans Zimmer.
Thank you!

Walpermure
05-21-2012, 07:48 AM
Thank you gururu!

Sirusjr
05-21-2012, 05:41 PM
I think those in this thread might be interested in this new John Scott score to a film called The Wicker Tree. Shame there are no samples yet.
Various Artists - The Wicker Tree :: Silva Screen Music (http://silvascreenmusic.greedbag.com/buy/the-wicker-tree/?tab=description)

Also, Perseverence Records released a new score that is interesting, a rejected score by John Corigliano to Edge of Darkness (recent film with Mel Gibson)
MUSIC FROM THE EDGE (EDGE OF DARKNESS REJECTED SCORE) -- SCREEN ARCHIVES ENTERTAINMENT (http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/19018/MUSIC-FROM-THE-EDGE-EDGE-OF-DARKNESS-REJECTED-SCORE/)

Lens of Truth
05-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Lens of Truth, any particular recording of Wagner's Die Meistersinger you like? Shall I go with Karajan one's?

Tangotreats, any particular recording of RVW's Sea Symphony you like? I see some Naxos one's and anything by Naxos is good in my book.

Karajan will always serve you well in Wagner. His Dresden account of Meistersinger is considered to be one of his very best opera recordings, though I don't have it myself. I'm most familiar with it from a friend's Levine/Met dvd. It's been the most difficult of Wagner's late operas for me to *get*, being on the surface more of a comedy and less mythic, but I'm starting to discover there's a lot more going on!

Paul Daniel's recording for Naxos is gorgeous (I don't think Kees Bakels got round to it in his earlier cycle for them - no great loss), as is Haitink if you want modern sound. You won't be disappointed with the Naxos :)

Vinphonic
05-21-2012, 06:40 PM
Aquarion EVOL (http://animeost.info/14357/aquarion-evol-ost)

About 25 minutes of orchestral score with the glorious Genesis Carnival. The rest is rather forgettable but I just don't care for the songs.

arthierr
05-21-2012, 08:06 PM
Haha, I should be more careful with my announcements, because the "recent" Oshima I announced earlier is only recent compared to the relatively old Variations Hana-Dan, but in fact it's from 2009: it's the very nice ost of Tenchijin.



I recently found a score from Inon Zur that I enjoy, despite the fact that the Opening track is a carbon copy of his Crysis Theme and surprsingly the worst track on the album. I expected the rest to be more of the same crap (I don't get why he is on so many asian projects and gets promoted to hell and back when the only result I'm hearing is something dreadful like Soul Calibur V), but thankfully it's not and worth a listen.

TERA Online OST - Homecoming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvwETwhyvS8&list=PL4B32F9DC756AE83E&index=12&feature=plpp_video)

TERA Online OST - City of Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1I5WoVJQ9I)

TERA Online OST - Godspeed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIVP1guB7nk)

I don't get why the opening track is so lackluster in comparison to tracks like these (either that or Rod Abernethy makes all the difference here).

Actually I enjoyed these so much that I grabbed the full ost. Let's see how it goes, if it's good enough, I'll repost it here.



TIROL CONCERTO FOR PIANO AND ORCHESTRA

This is probably the most pleasant music I've heard from Glass. It's just disarmingly beautiful, you can almost feel the fresh air, the invigorating breeze of the Tirol Mountains when listening to this. Thank you for this excellent post!



Thank you!

So the guy posts something after what, one or two months, and his post consists of... two words!? Oh no, my friend, you have at the very least to post a full dissertation.

JBarron2005
05-21-2012, 08:24 PM
Aquarion EVOL (http://animeost.info/14357/aquarion-evol-ost)

About 25 minutes of orchestral score with the glorious Genesis Carnival. The rest is rather forgettable but I just don't care for the songs.

So who composed the orchestra music then? Did Kanno contribute?

Oh and to those who might be curious...

There is a Guild Wars 2 rip floating in the forums ;).

Here is the link to the thread: Thread 114151

I like the score so far, but I have always felt that Soule's work as of late has been more melodic, focusing on using themes and motifs. There is still his orchestral ambience music, but even that is beautiful. That Norn theme is just so heroic!

tangotreats
05-21-2012, 09:53 PM
Hmm... is this confirmation that I was wrong YET AGAIN and Kanno has, in fact, recorded new music for Aquarion Evol with a real orchestra? Shurely shum mishtake!

But no... there it is.

And there's more to come, by the looks of things; Evol is getting "bonus score CDs" in the Bluray sets. No doubt there will be more new music there.

This CD has 14 minutes of new Warsaw (or wherever - it sounds like the Warsaw Philharmonic). A standard session usually records thirty minutes of music - and anime scores recorded overseas usually use two sessions (ie, one full day) for 60 minutes of finished score... Which means there is either the same again still to come, or three times more still to come. Either way... SPLENDID! :D

NaotaM
05-21-2012, 10:57 PM
See what happens when you let yourself be positive for a change? <3

Many thanks, klnerfan. Had no idea this was coming out yet.

tangotreats
05-21-2012, 11:06 PM
Fuff, I'm always positive. It's the rest of the world that's negative. ;)

WildwoodPark
05-21-2012, 11:08 PM
Where's Gwent? haven't seen her post in a long tyme.

Vinphonic
05-21-2012, 11:12 PM
More music would be wonderful. I'm still wondering if Saint Seiya Omega will have an offical ost? CDJapan is quiet about this.
I'm also pleasantly surprised that AKB0048 has fantastic music! Composed by Hiroshi Takaki, who is responsible for the gorgeous music of Kaidan Restaurant. Who would have thought that a show about idol singers has one of the best orchestral scores I've heared this year. Shame that the OST will come out in october and bundled with the BD of vol.5, according to vgmdb.

Sirusjr
05-21-2012, 11:16 PM
Aquarion EVOL (http://animeost.info/14357/aquarion-evol-ost)

About 25 minutes of orchestral score with the glorious Genesis Carnival. The rest is rather forgettable but I just don't care for the songs.

Don't care for the songs? But it is more AKINO :) It wouldn't be Aquarion without AKINO's songs :)

Vinphonic
05-21-2012, 11:21 PM
I can't help it. I like Your Legend ~ Aquarion Chapter Two but apart from it none come close to Sousei no Aquarion. Just my humble opinion. :)

streichorchester
05-22-2012, 03:39 AM
So the guy posts something after what, one or two months, and his post consists of... two words!? Oh no, my friend, you have at the very least to post a full dissertation.
Thank you to klnerfan for the post, so here's my notes as I listened:

Aquarion Evol is probably the worst thing Kanno has ever "done", if she is indeed involved. This series has no reason to exist and the show sucks. It's blatant pop anime garbage, and an obvious cash-grab. So is much of the music on this OST, unfortunately, so I proceeded to skip to track 07 (track 01 was okay, but kinda just filler.)

07. A Jealous Flapper - was in the original Aquarion so this recording is probably 10 years old. Thankfully we have it now, because it's a great addition to the Sousei no Aquarion symphony. Talk about a silver lining. Anyway, as for classical inspirations, look no further than Shostakovich's Jazz Suites (can't detect any plagiarism, so that's good.) It's a very odd, angular piece.

09. Shikkoku No Cadenza - is definitely not Kanno's style. I can't remember if it was ever in Sousei no Aquarion.

10. Sei Tenshi Gakuen Kouka - reminds me of Shenmue.

12. Seiotoha - I'm happy to finally have this one, but again, should have been released 10 years ago. It's definitely not classical-inspired.

13. Gekkou Chinkonkyoku - What is this shit? It sounds like this could have been a decent orchestra/piano piece, but it's ruined by special effects ("special" as in "retarded.")

14. Kouya No Kagura - :( save it for Diablo III.

15. A' - Random folk music is a staple of any Kanno OST.

16. Sousei Carnaval - FINALLY! It took 10 years, but we finally have this. It opens with some "Goldenthal" chords (see the soundtrack for Cobb) but the rest is fairly original Hollywood-ism. Very advanced orchestration. Too bad the second half is simply choir-less versions of tracks from the Sousei no Aquarion OST (including the one inspired by Silvestri's Van Helsing.) The ending cascade is good.

17. Altair Shinkou - Damn retarded effects...

18. Chuukuu Fanfare - sounds like something out of Brain Powerd.

19. Souseiki #2 - Good stuff. I imagine this is what it would sound like if Kanno did a Disney movie back in the 90s. (edit: this was in the original as well. Sorry tango, no new Warsaw sessions this time.)

20. Itoshiki Mono.Nanji No Na Ha - Typical Kanno melodrama, can't remember if this was in Sousei no Aquarion.

21. Aquaria Mau Sora The Member Of Lsot - As a parody of cliche anime movie music this is actually not bad.

22. [bonus track] - meh...

What? That's it? Where is the epic variation of Seiotoha with full choir? I know we finally got Sousei Carnaval, but there is still a lot missing! :(

tangotreats
05-22-2012, 10:10 AM
Ah. So, in fact, there is no original orchestral music in Aquarion Evol; the ten or fifteen minutes of good stuff on this album is unreleased music from the Aquarion session - and my original pessimism was indeed fully justified? Not having seen Aquarion (and not planning to, based on the five minutes of nauseating Evol I sat through) my assumption was that any substantial pieces not heard on the original soundtracks would be new sessions... in reality they are nothing more than offcuts and leftovers that weren't deemed worthwhile putting out in 2005.

The few minutes of original music that there is in Evol is no doubt this limp string quartet crap interspersed with a few crumpled studio ensemble monstrosities like Gekkou Chinkonkyoku.

As originally predicted, not one note of new score out of Kanno. Kanno's 2005 Warsaw cues re-used for climactic moments and Otsuka's odious filler to paper over the cracks.

If I may be so arrogant as to quote myself from last December, a few weeks before Evol premiered...:


Tangotreats, 04-12-11: The score will be a cut and paste job; the new person makes some relatively low-budget variations on the famous composers' melodies from the original to fill in gaps, and the original music will be re-used wherever possible.

I bet you any money you like that Otsuka is writing filler music on the cheap using Kanno's themes, and Kanno's music from Aquarion will be recycled for setpieces. Thus meaning that Kanno's name can stay on the show without anybody having to actually pay for her. Everybody is thinking this means we will get a ravishing Warsaw Philharmonic and hours of music Kanno score for 2012... It's just not going to happen.

The only thing I was wrong about was that I predicted Otsuka would re-purpose Kanno's melodies in her filler cues; but in fact they're themeless monstrosities with no musical connection to Aquarion whatsoever - so, in a way, I was being optimistic even then. ;)

Surprise, surprise.............................

NaotaM
05-22-2012, 12:23 PM
Streich, stop trollin', man.

Also, Otsuka had nothing to do with a note of any of this. She's not credited. She is credited for this ZMXZ-7773 | Aquarion EVOL Soundtrack CD - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/32607) , but what that entails or what music will even be included is up for time to tell. There is still quite a bit of music left to be released from both seasons, from what I can tell.

To clarify:

Pandora..., New
Paradoxical...New
Fragments...New
Beast Beat, New
Your Legend ....New
Pop-Up...New
Jealous Flapper, Old
Yunoha's....New
Cadenza, New
Academy Song, New
Symphonia, New
Sound Wave, Old
Requiem, New
Kagura...New
A', Old
Genesis Carnival, May be old, I remember something like it from the unreleased tracks, but most of it is unfamiliar to me
Altair Invasion, New
Fanfare, New
History, Old
My Dear...Old
Aquaria Flying...New, and awesome. "Cliche" is utterly off-base.

TazerMonkey
05-22-2012, 03:18 PM
The first half of Sousei Carnival is really nice; I'd have much preferred more exploration of that material than the rehash that the rest of the track entails. Nothing else from the bunch has captivated me as yet.

Sirusjr
05-23-2012, 02:06 AM
I just ran into a sentence in the Dragon's Dogma review on IGN that strikes me as a sad sign of the times.

"Rad Japanese guitar rock on the title screen gives way to a predictable orchestral score for the actual game."

They don't even mention the score anywhere in the body of the review so I have no idea if he meant that the music was generic because it was orchestral or generic because it was poorly written orchestral, but I assume the former.

Gametrailers doesn't even bother to mention the soundtrack at all other than the menu screen music in their review. I don't expect a lot of time spent discussing music but most games with other than orchestral soundtracks tend to get some mention in how "edgy" or "modern" the music is. Sigh.

Of course I haven't heard the soundtrack yet on its own so I don't know if it is any good, but that doesn't make this any less annoying.

herbaciak
05-23-2012, 07:00 AM
Dragon Dogma samples:

???????? ?????????????? | SQUARE ENIX MUSIC | SQUARE ENIX (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/dd/)

Don't know what to think, but definitely not impressed by samples (and indeed they sound generic), which is strange when U look at orchestrators names...

NaotaM
05-23-2012, 07:55 AM
Dragon Dogma samples:

???????? ?????????????? | SQUARE ENIX MUSIC | SQUARE ENIX (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/dd/)

Don't know what to think, but definitely not impressed by samples (and indeed they sound generic), which is strange when U look at orchestrators names...

Orchestration is merely enhancement, at best, handy, expensive gift-wrapping for turds someone wants covered up. Even Williams can't turn crap into quartz. It is strange the samples are so lame, though. Kondoh and Makino are both proven talents, but then again...Zur, and there's no telling as of yet who did what or produced the most. Ho-hum.

EDIT: Hmm, seems most of it is Kondoh and Makino. Interesting, but mostly just more disappointing. Trying too hard to emulate the typical Western RPG sound, I guess?

Been thinking about trying my hand at reviews again, and was wondering how anyone would feel about that. Can't listen to so much work without wanting to express my thoughts about it in some form, and while I appreciate what few avenues for analysis of game and anime soundtrack work there are, like AnimeInstrumentality and RandomCuriousity...most of their reviews strike me as kinda dull, and if there's nowhere else to turn to, may as well write something myself. Plus, it's always fun to read you guys' takes on material.

Naturally, will try not to bloat the thread too much, possibly keep most of it to other threads, with re-posts of the music discussed, of course.

tangotreats
05-23-2012, 09:33 AM
Indeed... if you give a massively talented orchestrator shitty music your end product will be nicely orchestrated shitty music. This one isn't helped by the mostly terrible roster of composers there. Valtonen is really good but he needs to compose, not merely arrange. Wanamo... no, not really impressed me.

Oh, well. 95% of it stinks. Win some, lose some.

Incidentally - here's a typically over-hyped blog report on the recording of the score: Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible (http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman/blog/2012/05/03/orchestrating_a_masterpiece_-_the_music_of_dragons_dogma)

I love the way they try to suggest they they are recording with a low-budget orchestra... for the "European warmth"! Come on, chaps - they're cheap. If you didn't use them, you couldn't have afforded an orchestra at all. There's nothing wrong with that - not at all - but a bit of honesty would go down awfully well.

Sirus: I'd say that was a commentary on the crapness of the score, rather than a case of "Oh, no - an orchestra again!" It's cliched and tired; one hundred piece orchestra, check. Wailing vocalist, check. Endless battery of tribal percussion, check. Random ethnic instruments "to add other-worldly colour", check. Electronica sound design, check. Themeless, directionless, dull music, check. It literally ticks all the boxes for a crummy predictable score. Japanese producers don't usually go in for that sort of rubbish - so that's probably why they have deemed it noteworthy. Dear Japan; DON'T DO THIS AGAIN, PLEASE! You have produced some of the finest symphonic scores of recent years. This tacky Hollywood-style shit is way, way beneath you.

chancth
05-23-2012, 04:08 PM
2011 Naoki Sato - Carnation Original Soundtrack



Carnation Original Soundtrack (http://www.mediafire.com/?tgzgv3zvcxgbdgu)

Many many thanks for this LOVELY score ! Naoki Sato never disappoints

Herr Salat
05-24-2012, 12:40 AM
Score composed by
Kenichiro Morioka, Shunsuke Kikuchi
MESSAGE FROM SPACE
(1978, dir. Kinji Fukasaku)

Columbia Symphony Orchestra (Studio Orchestra, Japan)
conducted by Hiroshi Kumagai

Album Title: Symphonic Suite 'Message from Space'
Original Release Date: 25.04.1978
Re-Release: 17.03.2004
Label: Columbia Music Entertainment
Catalog Number: COCC-72057



01. Overture (Theme of Emeraldas / Prayer of The Jillucian)
02. Planet Millazalea
03. Dancing Millazalean
04. Spin Rock
05. Space Navigation (Space Fireflies / The Prayer Star / Attack of Gavannas)
06. Our Planet, Sweet Earth
07. Space Battle
08. Space Runaway
09. Theater Restaurant Band
10. Brave Hero of Liabe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU9_uAb7pZs)
11. Finale (Theme of Emeraldas) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ath53qnC1-M)

Tracks 1,2,5,6,7,10,11 - Kenichiro Morioka (Orchestral Cues)
Tracks 3,4,8,9 - Shunsuke Kikuchi


An oddity of a score, this one. It certainly fits the seventies Sci-fi movie mold, although I'll be buggered if I see any connection with Star Wars - other than they're both orchestral scores written for movies about space. The late seventies in Japan wasn't a good time for orchestral scores - disco and synth reigned supreme - and "symphonic suite" usually meant a tiny orchestra beefed up with electric basses and a rhythm section - Kentaro Haneda-esque light pop arrangements, excellent stuff but an acquired taste and hideously dated today. By contrast, Message From Space mostly comes over as a timeless orchestral piece that can stand alone. (Except, of course, Emeralida's theme which is dripping with 70s schmaltz, but in the best possible taste...!) The small orchestra is endearing!

I even love the shamelessly 70's disco.

Source: Rip and booklet scans by me

FLAC + LOG + SCANS

<TT>anon.click/lopag78 (https://anon.click/lopag78)</TT> | Password: DSCH

(MediaFire Behind Capcha & Password)

Also included, 12 bonus tracks from a 2CD release in WMA -V2 quality from "Sidero" (http://sidero.perso.neuf.fr/bgm01.htm) (thanks to showads for the tip!).

bishtyboshty
05-24-2012, 01:08 AM
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yepsa
05-24-2012, 01:38 AM
iTunes gives the following info for the above score to "Message From Space"...

COMPOSERS: Kenichiro Morioka and Shunsuke Kikuchi

TRACKS:
1) Overture (Theme of Emeralida/Prayer of The Jillucian)
2) Planet Millazalea
3) Dancing Millazalean
4) Spin Rock
5) Space Navigation (Space Fireflies/The Prayer Star/Attack of Gavanas)
6) Our Planet, Sweet Earth
7) Space Battle
8) Space Runaway
9) Theater Restaurant Band
10) Brave Hero of Liabe
11) Finale (Theme of Emeralida)

streichorchester
05-24-2012, 02:48 AM
I love the way they try to suggest they they are recording with a low-budget orchestra... for the "European warmth"! Come on, chaps - they're cheap. If you didn't use them, you couldn't have afforded an orchestra at all. There's nothing wrong with that - not at all - but a bit of honesty would go down awfully well.
I'd be more concerned with the fact the blog keeps saying "we took all of our ideas..." or "We then took opinions from the sound members..." or "We ended up heading towards a more varied approach to music." What was the last great score to be composed by committee? (seriously, I want to know, I'm thinking along the lines of Trinity and Beyond or something...)

gururu
05-24-2012, 05:25 AM
Message from Space
"Symphonic Suite"





Thanks for this. Haven't heard this since I saw it in the theater way back in '78.

JBarron2005
05-24-2012, 06:21 AM
I am sure this will bite me in the rear, but what the hell?

I have just made an account on Soundcloud so I can share and promote my music. I am not sure if I have mentioned this here or not, but I have been composing for a few years. I have been scoring music for a small developer called Ronime Studios for a little over three years. Anyway, I only have East West's Goliath and hopefully one day I will be able to get this stuff performed, but until that happens my sound libraries will suffice. So here is a link to my profile and I hope you all will find something to enjoy

Josh Barron's sounds on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/josh-barron)

Here is an overview of what I have uploaded...

1. Aeolic Guardian (Piano Arrangement) Composed by Masashi Hamauzu
2. The Boundaries are Lifted Composed by Josh Barron
3. Open Arms (Orchestra Ver.) Composed by Jonathan Cain and Steve Perry, Arr. Josh Barron
4. What Was That? ~ Follow Me, Alice (music from the game Dollhouse) Composed by Josh Barron
5. Critter Caper (Menu Theme) Composed by Josh Barron
6. Assassin on the Move (Demo piece) Composed by Josh Barron
7. Vorten (Piano Solo) Composed by Josh Barron
8. Airspur, the Floating City Composed by Josh Barron
9. musique pour la tristesse de Xion (Orchestra Version) Composed by Yoko Shimomura, Arr. Josh Barron

Oh and I would love comments ;).

Ashnon
05-24-2012, 11:46 AM
EDIT: Hmm, seems most of it is Kondoh and Makino. Interesting, but mostly just more disappointing. Trying too hard to emulate the typical Western RPG sound, I guess?



I agree with you. Actually the starting few seconds of the sample do get my attention, but as it goes on I think it falls flat.

evilwurst
05-24-2012, 07:01 PM
"Message From Space"...

COMPOSERS: Kenichiro Morioka and Shunsuke Kikuchi

10) Brave Hero of Liabe

Mmm. Is it just me hearing things that aren't there, or do they really like Shostakovich 5? :)

tangotreats
05-24-2012, 08:13 PM
LOL! No, definitely not you hearing things. That symphony's been copied more times than the picture of the tennis girl scratching her butt.

Mr Salad: Thank you for Message From Space! It's one of my old favourites which I lost in a mega disk crash a few years ago and never managed to locate again. I had no idea it had been re-released on Animex 1200!

The two disc album you refer to is in fact just one disc - but a very full one. More information about it is here: http://www.godzillamonstermusic.com/message.htm

As far as I remember, there's no new orchestral music on it; the additional running time is different cuts of the same music and filler crap... but it's been many many years. I could be wrong. Either way, the symphonic suite is gorgeous just the way it is. I even love the shamelessly 70's disco.

May I ask a big favour of you, sir? Only if you're able and willing, you'd be making an Englishman very happy indeed if you'd consider upgrading that one again to FLAC or any other lossless codec of your choice. I'll buy the Animex disc eventually - I'm saving up a massive order for CDJapan (to lessen the pain of customs fees) and in the mean time, it'd be delightful to hear this one pristine.

Cheers :)

TT

Sirusjr
05-24-2012, 09:47 PM
Well Dragon's Dogma was a huge disappointment. I didn't want to believe it when members of this thread commented how it was likely worthless and the IGN reviewer was no doubt commenting on the quality (or lack thereof) of the music. Somehow they managed to take the best music composed for the game and stick that in the early gameplay trailers, but most of it is pure crap.

Thankfully, the Message From Space album is delightful (when it is in orchestral mode). I don't particularly care for the sound of the other cues on there but the orchestral work is quite lovely. Many thanks :)

tangotreats
05-24-2012, 10:09 PM
Is there anything in there that's worthwhile? From the handful of samples, there were a few Valtonen cues that were tolerable...

Edit: Listening now. Jesus Christ, what a turd. About five minutes of decent. Oh, well...

Sirusjr
05-24-2012, 10:40 PM
Is there anything in there that's worthwhile? From the handful of samples, there were a few Valtonen cues that were tolerable...

Edit: Listening now. Jesus Christ, what a turd. About five minutes of decent. Oh, well...

I don't have the stomach to listen to it all to find out. The extremely long track has the opening vocal track and the main titles cue with female vocals (the one that plays automatically on the square-enix web site linked above). They are good but otherwise it is pretty bad. It sounds almost as bad as the music from Dragon Age 2, with the painful samples that Inon Zur used for the score. Thank god I didn't import the soundtrack.

Herr Salat
05-24-2012, 11:30 PM
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tangotreats
05-24-2012, 11:40 PM
!friend my, much very you thanK ;)

Didn't realise there was more good stuff... my memory was that it was the same recordings massaged about a bit and interspersed with some electronic junk to pad it out... Dammit, another CD to add to my "need to get this sometime" list... ;)

An oddity of a score, this one. It certainly fits the seventies Sci-fi movie mold, although I'll be buggered if I see any connection with Star Wars - other than they're both orchestral scores written for movies about space. The late seventies in Japan wasn't a good time for orchestral scores - disco and synth reigned supreme - and "symphonic suite" usually meant a tiny orchestra beefed up with electric basses and a rhythm section - Kentaro Haneda-esque light pop arrangements, excellent stuff but an acquired taste and hideously dated today. By contrast, Message From Space mostly comes over as a timeless orchestral piece that can stand alone. (Except, of course, Emeralida's theme which is dripping with 70s schmaltz, but in the best possible taste...!) The small orchestra is endearing!

Vielen Dank, Herr Gem�se

Isaias Caetano
05-25-2012, 03:21 PM
MediaFire Part 1 (199 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?gjw78pnnhsawh3f)
MediaFire Part 2 (65.28 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?4dvc76fiwfk32pa)

Samples for the additional bonus tracks at amazon.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%9F%B3%E3%83%8E%E6%A3%AE%E7%AB%A0%E5%A4%AA%E9%8 3%8E%E8%90%AC%E7%94%BB%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD%E5%A4%A7% E5%85%A8-2-%E4%BA%A4%E9%9F%BF%E7%B5%84%E6%9B%B2-%E5%AE%87%E5%AE%99%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89%E3%81%AE%E3%8 3%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9/dp/samples/B00005EQ5F/ref=dp_tracks_all_1#disc_1).



It's new orchestral material but after listening to the samples I think it's not as good as the 1CD soundtrack.


The Columbia Symphony Orchestra (Japan). I never can tell whenever it was a small orchestra or not.

Obrigado

yepsa
05-25-2012, 05:55 PM
Regarding "Message from Space" Part 1 & 2 (Mediafire)...

Is Part 1 the music that was already posted (11 tracks), and is Part 2 the 12 bonus tracks? If "yes", both my PC and MAC can't download Part 2. Anyone else having the same trouble?

Herr Salat
05-25-2012, 06:23 PM
It's still the same album (11 tracks) just in lossless, divided into two rars because my MediaFire Free User Account doesn't let me upload files bigger than 200 MB. Next time, I will post the links as "X.part1.rar", "X.part2.rar", etc. to avoid misunderstandings.

The CD with the additional 12 tracks is way out of print. How does Tango even want to get that...without spending far too many quids for a second hand copy...on amazon.jp...marketplace?

I have just successfully downloaded part2.rar. Hopefully, it'll work when you try it again.

yepsa
05-25-2012, 07:34 PM
It's still the same album (11 tracks) just in lossless, divided into two rars

Thanks for the explanation. Since Part 2 is just the remaining tracks of Part 1, then there is no download problem after all. I thought Part 2 was supposed to be the expanded release mentioned above, and since I wasn't able to download that I thought there was a problem. Sorry for any confusion!

Doublehex
05-26-2012, 07:33 PM
Well, after some re-evaluation I have come to the conclusion that I was absolutely bonkers and drunk on hype (of the game) when I said all those things about the Diablo III soundtrack. I mean, some of it was good...but most of it is complete shite. Ugh. Sorry about that guys.

Then again, you were probably laughing at my expense. Ah well.

So, anyways, someone had posted a rip of the much anticipated Guild Wars 2. I quickly downloaded it, expecting an average score, much like Skyrim. I really wasn't expecting anything awe inspiring. And it's not - at least the music we got, at least. However, the music is still very good. The music, although still very "gamey" in some respects, still has a sense of melody. There's also plenty of tracks that are very bombastic and adventurous that seems something suggestive of a High Fantasy Indiana Jones.

The race themes in particular seem to balance between being adventerous and saying something about the characteristics of each race...except for the Charr race, which seems to scream nothing but war. But that's the Charr in a nutshell anyways, so I don't think Soule could be at fault on that. It's still a very nice "action" theme regardless.

At Sirusjr's request, I assembled my own personal "Best Of" collection...as well as my own cover. Because that's just what I do.

Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362124912/Best_of_GW2.rar.html)

And for those that enjoyed the sample and want the full release: http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362125119/GW2Complete.rar.html

Sirusjr
05-26-2012, 08:37 PM
Thanks for posting this music from Guild Wars 2. It really is a shame that the audio is only 128kbps because there is some nice material here. I don't see how anyone thought that was a good idea. At minimum they should have put the audio in VBR V-2 if they really cared about the size of it all. The quieter pieces of music are indeed quite tranquil and lovely :)

JBarron2005
05-27-2012, 06:48 AM
I love the theme for the Sylvari homeland as well as Divinity's Reach. They are so beautiful and moving. I really think Guild Wars 2 is some of Soule's best work.

tangotreats
05-27-2012, 02:20 PM
Uh... a typical Jeremy Soule stinker. Cheap synthesised crap, ZREO-esque overbaked, overused sample libraries compensating for lack of internal musicality, themes about as mindlessly cliched as you can get, a little bit of painful Jerry Goldsmith pantomime, some soul-less Williams parody, MV chord progressions, ubiquitous pissy tribal percussion crap, and grungy soundscapes. Am I listening to the same score, here?

Granted, it's nice to hear Soule at least trying to go for the theme-driven score he used to write... but it's all just so damn tired and amateurish.

Even the handful of moments which do demonstrate a bit of musical acumen and personality fail to convince because the orchestration is so black-and-white, one dimensional, and unsubtle.

Oh, well - this is exactly what I would have expected from Soule; it sounds like somebody who can't compose but can operate a computer, pissballing around with an expensive sample library. Soule calls himself a symphonist and a composer - but he is neither; he's a highly skilled synthesiser operator.

arthierr
05-27-2012, 03:44 PM
Haha! I won't go as far as that, I think!

I just listened to the sample pack (thanks DH), and for a western RPG game score, it's pretty good actually. I did enjoy a lot of music in there, which is rare with this kind of product. There are even some excellent tracks, such as "Harmonies", "Divinity's Reach", "Innovation", etc. Very melodic, graceful, inspired stuff, pleasantly orchestrated, skillfully composed - not genius material of course, but something substantially above the rest of its category.

To my ears, and even if I haven't listened to the whole score, this sounds like quite an high quality RPG score - compared to most other western RPG scores of course, which often sound dull and boring to me. Here it seems there are some real artistic efforts made. There's even a nod to Ravel's Bolero in "Protecting the Caravan", how's that for an artistic effort?! ;)

Looking forward to listening to a good quality rip or official release.

Doublehex
05-27-2012, 04:59 PM
Tango, sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with you totally on this one. Even if it is synth, this is still some stellar music. "Fury of the Five Races" is some of the best choral battle themes, right up there with what we got in Sea Dogs and Goldsmith's First Knight (Arthur's Farewell is the name of the theme, right?).

My only problem is that most of the loud themes, such as Divinity's Reach and the race themes are too damn short! 2 minutes are too short! Give me at least 3 Soule. They are just over too quickly.

And Arthierr, you can rest assured I'll do everything I can to do a rip the same quality as my World of Warcraft rips. I'll be using this as a launching point for when I get the full game whenever A.Net decides to release this beauty.

Herr Salat
05-27-2012, 05:20 PM
GIANT ROBO
Orchestra Recording
for Episode 7 / OST VII
Duration: 22:42

YouTube (Part 1) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBnFzz9vtOY)
YouTube (Part 2) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkY82H-GKEs)

Footage from a bonus DVD included in Region 2 Giant Robo DVD box set.
There is a 2:39 min video on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-7buwLOf9I) but this is the full 20 min video.

bishtyboshty
05-27-2012, 06:50 PM
If there's need for the OSTs, Grandis' links for the MP3s are still working (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382).[/center]

Except Giant Robo I in mp3 is corrupt.

tangotreats
05-27-2012, 09:45 PM
Tango, sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with you totally on this one. Even if it is synth, this is still some stellar music. "Fury of the Five Races" is some of the best choral battle themes, right up there with what we got in Sea Dogs and Goldsmith's First Knight (Arthur's Farewell is the name of the theme, right?).

Disagreement respectfully noted. :)

Well, I listened to Fury Of The Five Races. It's noisy, generic, themeless, atrociously orchestrated, and completely predictable right from the first note to the last. If the music were any good I would cheerfully overlook the atrocious synthesiser - but alas, the music is poor and the orchestration is designed exclusively to make a lot of noise and show off that French Horn Ensemble sample Soule loves so much. Hence, why 95% of the score consists of drab, stormy quasi-themes played by six unison horns against a background of repetitive churning strings.

Goldsmith's "Arthur's Farewell" by contrast is tight, exciting, rhythmically interesting, superlatively orchestrated, and absolutely every note undoubtedly dripping with Goldsmith's technique and style. It's a masterclass in melodic integration and how to sustain interest across over five minutes - whereas Soule's cue is barely two minutes long and has outstayed its welcome way before you hit the 15 second mark!

I'm fascinated (and, I won't deny, a little disturbed) at how somebody could compare this turd to one of Goldsmith's finest late works.

I'll admit it's better than most Western RPGs (and that's as much an endorsement as defending Stalin by saying that Hitler was worse) and it's decent by Soule's own low standards... but no, seriously... Listen to it again, my friend. This is no masterpiece.

Peace and respect as ever. :)

TT

arthierr
05-27-2012, 09:49 PM
Yeah, and it's one of the best tracks, too. Please could someone reup a V0 of this track, please? :)

Thx a lot for the video, Mein Herr! It's really great to see the actual composer and recording session of one of your classic scores.

And since Grandis' wondrous post has been mentioned, let's repost it so more people can get it (which, incidentally, will also help to have those links alive longer).

MEGATHANKS TO GRANDIS!




Giant Robo I Kanzenban [flac + cue] (213 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=QF7JWSW2)

[-V 0 mp3] (70 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?immnyzmzhnj)


Giant Robo I [ape + cue] (222 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2AA1WGX)

[-V 0 mp3] (74 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?dyzzvj0hzmg)


Giant Robo II [flac + cue] (203 MB)
THANK YOU, Sirusjr!

(http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1303616)

[-V 0 mp3] (71 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?jxg42u2zytz)


Giant Robo III [ape + cue] (232 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBMMR3CJ)

[-V 0 mp3] (80 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?ijylzqzjly0)


Giant Robo IV [flac + cue] (215 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=WDH2EAXM)

[-V 0 mp3] (68 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?3i1zmbzwt2y)


Giant Robo V [flac + cue] (248 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=J4GG08FM)

[-V 0 mp3] (80 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?lmtnmm0emji)


Giant Robo VI [flac + cue] (213 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=NOOYHK99)

[-V 0 mp3] (73 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?mfnxdtmmmjw)


Giant Robo VII [flac + cue] (296 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=L9NMJ8T3)

[-V 0 mp3] (89 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?kmmgmm1jwqm)


Giant Robo Gaiden: LOVE FIGHT ~ GinRei Music Collection ~
[flac + cue] (299 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=70JNA04C)

[-V 0 mp3] (97 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?znk1zmcjjtm)


Giant Robo Gaiden: Aoi Hitomi no GinRei Original Soundtrack
[flac + cue] (217 MB)

(hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=5NU6XZFC)

[-V 0 mp3] (74 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?zhdmmyzoci2)

shady pines ma
05-27-2012, 09:54 PM
La La Land Records has just announced what may turn out to be a stupendous release. J.S. Zamecnik's original score for the 1927 film Wings was newly recorded for the film restoration, arranged and orchestrated by Dominik Hauser. Dominik Hauser will autograph the first 100 copies ordered from the La-La Land site at no extra charge.
I picked up the DVD a while back and really loved the score. Hoping someone here has the CD, as I currently cannot purchase it and would love to have the score on my iPod.

arthierr
05-27-2012, 10:01 PM
TT: our good friend Doublehex sometimes, well, tends to overuse of the subtle art of making comparisons indeed, but let's just assume it's because he's carried away by a genuinely spirited enthusiasm!

About Fury Of The Five Races, I have to agree it's pretty generic. I don't see anything really special about it, contrary to other very nice pieces in this score.

Herr Salat
05-27-2012, 10:11 PM
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tangotreats
05-27-2012, 10:22 PM
Panic not, folks - I have all the Giant Robo FLACs archived. I'll try to get them back up tomorrow... :)

Mr Salad - thank you for that rare little gem!

NaotaM
05-27-2012, 10:37 PM
Dissapointing news. Symphonic Fantasies Tokyo isn't two discs of material so much as the one original cd split in half. Thanks. Great use of format, guys.

Lens of Truth
05-27-2012, 10:55 PM
While we're touching on Arthur's Farewell, I just have to say that I loathe Jerry's treatment of the choir here and elsewhere in the score. In fact I find the whole piece rather ugly and sort of proto-MV/RC. The LaLa mastering doesn't help matters either, with a horrible brick-walled effect that robs the music of texture. And Jerry, why so much nasty unison and doubling?? There's something gormless about it. Plainchant influence? Pull the other one! Repetition alone can't produce drama. =/

It got me wondering whether his 'streamlined' 90s style really works in this sort of old-fashioned adventure score, with the requisite bloated orchestral and choral forces. Jerry's action music is the best there is, not simply because it's musically involving and well composed in a personal idiom, with a 'logic' of its own, but because it's ballsy! He can go from the most fragile pathos to the most hyper-masculine, rigorous action-workout... and yet there's an awkwardness to these big 90s scores that I can't get away from. I suppose I put FK in the same drawer as The Mummy, 13th Warrior and Sum of All Fears: a bit crude and loud but lots of fun nonetheless.

Doublehex
05-27-2012, 11:29 PM
I am enthusiastic because when trying to debate with you guys that is pretty much the only thing I have! I deal heavily in comparison because that is one of the few ways I have in describing what I feel about certain themes and cues. The deal is, despite all of my unbridled enthusiasm and love for great music, I am ignorant as all hell when compared to the rest of you guys. Tango was invited to the scoring session of Doctor Who and has composed a wonderful orchestral piece and shared it with us (even if he falsely thought it wasn't any good!). Arthierr, going by his posts, has taken many classes on music or is at the very least well read in the art. NatoM is a trained musical critic (...I think). I am surrounded by guys who - although not maestros - have a wide library of knowledge to draw from when discussing their opinions and values on music.

And the only thing I have is my love and enthusiasm.

I mean, if we were video games or novels for instance, I would be in my playing field. I've wanted to do two things since I was a lad: make video games and tell stories. I abandoned the video game dream because I can't code for shit, I can't draw if my life depended on it, and even the simplest of level design programs gives me a headache. But I am still pursuing my dream of being a writer - still writing, learning about the art of writing, taking classes on it, and keeping in touch with fellow aspiring writers.

But in regards of music, I've only been interested in for the past six years or so, and if we are talking objectively good, non-MV influenced music, then it would only be the last 2 or 3. However long I've been seriously posting to this thread is most likely relative to when I started to get an ink-lining of knowledge regarding the art.

So when I am debating with you guys, understand I am out of my element here. Despite my best intents, the most "academic" I know of music is how A Battle on the Ice has been the foundation of every epic, chorus filled battle piece in Hollywood since ever, and A Rite of Spring is the best thing since Jesus.

I am comparison heavy - that's objectively true. Because I am essentially a little kid trying to have a big grown up discussion. I see concepts alluded to, I see weird, strange words used, and I am both glad that I am being exposed to more knowledge, and frustrated that I can hardly make sense of it half the time. Remember that dissonance debate a couple of months back? I had no idea what the fuck was going on there. Everyone was debating the merits of having "unpleasantness" in music, and I was just scratching my head like an ape with an especially irritating itch. The concept of having music have elements that were not pleasing to the ear was just inconceivable to me. And yet you guys were talking like it made all the sense in the world. Sometimes I wondered if stepped into an online dissertation on theoretical physics. My efforts to go online to find out more about just frustrated more because those made even less sense.

And I have now realized I have once again rambled off course. Look, what I am vainly attempting to say is just understand where I am coming from when I am debating with you guys. I'm a orchestral music newbie. I'm a little duck just stepping into the big pond. I'm the High Schooler that just entered the realm of higher education. Whenever I read one of "those" posts, I learn a little bit more about music than I did before, but you guys are still leagues away in knowledge. Just keep that in mind when discussing with me. Don't go easy on me - sometimes I just say something stupid and pants on head retarded and need to have sense slapped into me.

...Seriously, I need to learn to cut back on the word fat. Urgh.

NaotaM
05-27-2012, 11:40 PM
Love and enthusiasm is all you need(to slightly paraphrase from a certain Englishman.)

There's no need to defend yourself or apologize for your opinions or stances. Look beyond the practical skills and education, and your same brand of enthusiasm, unbridled love for music, is all any of us really have, and it's what we all have in common. If you feel unequipped to participate in a given back-and-forth, ask questions. Learn, listen to the pieces that get bandied about. If someone gives you shit for feeling a certain way about music...well, they're probably just messing with you. But if not, back yourself up. Have some confidence in your gut reactions to things, because what else is the human reaction to music really? (Or just tell 'em to fuck off. It's served me well. ;) )

For the record, I'm not a musically trained ANYTHING. I write many things for a living, but music reviews are not one of them. I enjoy to do so, and hope others enjoy reading, cause when something fills your lungs with passion and vibrancy and imagery and joy, you wanna express it and share such wonderful things with your peers. But I have no training in the area and I often get instruments or certain musical terms wrong. I couldn't tell you a polyphony from a modal scale to a legato and back, but I'm learning. Music reviews and debates that are all about the vernacular bore me, anyway. I wanna write about the emotion, the description and sensation of the music tickling your eardrums, arbitrary though it may be, not the scientific breakdown of the notes making up the bones and atoms. (Look up Jormungand and Ongakusei's old reviews over on Chudah's Corner. They're major inspirations for me.)

And that fundamental lack of certain basics doesn't keep me from being able to discuss, gush over, learn about or research the things I love. Don't sweat feeling like you're a rookie in the Big Leagues. Music is just music and talk is just talk. Let yourself go and throw yourself in.

WildwoodPark
05-27-2012, 11:43 PM
I am enthusiastic because when trying to debate with you guys that is pretty much the only thing I have! I deal heavily in comparison because that is one of the few ways I have in describing what I feel about certain themes and cues. The deal is, despite all of my unbridled enthusiasm and love for great music, I am ignorant as all hell when compared to the rest of you guys. Tango was invited to the scoring session of Doctor Who and has composed a wonderful orchestral piece and shared it with us (even if he falsely thought it wasn't any good!). Arthierr, going by his posts, has taken many classes on music or is at the very least well read in the art. NatoM is a trained musical critic (...I think). I am surrounded by guys who - although not maestros - have a wide library of knowledge to draw from when discussing their opinions and values on music.

And the only thing I have is my love and enthusiasm.

I mean, if we were video games or novels for instance, I would be in my playing field. I've wanted to do two things since I was a lad: make video games and tell stories. I abandoned the video game dream because I can't code for shit, I can't draw if my life depended on it, and even the simplest of level design programs gives me a headache. But I am still pursuing my dream of being a writer - still writing, learning about the art of writing, taking classes on it, and keeping in touch with fellow aspiring writers.

But in regards of music, I've only been interested in for the past six years or so, and if we are talking objectively good, non-MV influenced music, then it would only be the last 2 or 3. However long I've been seriously posting to this thread is most likely relative to when I started to get an ink-lining of knowledge regarding the art.

So when I am debating with you guys, understand I am out of my element here. Despite my best intents, the most "academic" I know of music is how A Battle on the Ice has been the foundation of every epic, chorus filled battle piece in Hollywood since ever, and A Rite of Spring is the best thing since Jesus.

I am comparison heavy - that's objectively true. Because I am essentially a little kid trying to have a big grown up discussion. I see concepts alluded to, I see weird, strange words used, and I am both glad that I am being exposed to more knowledge, and frustrated that I can hardly make sense of it half the time. Remember that dissonance debate a couple of months back? I had no idea what the fuck was going on there. Everyone was debating the merits of having "unpleasantness" in music, and I was just scratching my head like an ape with an especially irritating itch. The concept of having music have elements that were not pleasing to the ear was just inconceivable to me. And yet you guys were talking like it made all the sense in the world. Sometimes I wondered if stepped into an online dissertation on theoretical physics. My efforts to go online to find out more about just frustrated more because those made even less sense.

And I have now realized I have once again rambled off course. Look, what I am vainly attempting to say is just understand where I am coming from when I am debating with you guys. I'm a orchestral music newbie. I'm a little duck just stepping into the big pond. I'm the High Schooler that just entered the realm of higher education. Whenever I read one of "those" posts, I learn a little bit more about music than I did before, but you guys are still leagues away in knowledge. Just keep that in mind when discussing with me. Don't go easy on me - sometimes I just say something stupid and pants on head retarded and need to have sense slapped into me.

...Seriously, I need to learn to cut back on the word fat. Urgh.

I am eagerly awaiting your next novel, have you received an advance from the publisher?

Seriously you make some good points and unlike some folks on here at least you have a valid opinion and don't pretend to be the end all of knowledge on the subject.

TazerMonkey
05-28-2012, 05:05 AM
ZREO-esque overbaked

Whoa whoa whoa, Tango... let's not stoop to that nadir...

I haven't listened to much of Guild Wars 2, but what I'm hearing is pleasant enough in Soule's idiom (then again, I am actually still rather fond of Skyrim for what it is). It's not Mahler, it's not Lennie Moore, but it is decently lyrical and I've been developing an attachment to the "ambient textural" style as long as there's still some melody to it. I actually think the quieter tracks can be quite impressive, such as Divinity's Reach. I'll agree I wasn't blown away by Fury of the Five Races, but I think that does about put it on the same level as Arthur's Farewell (I find "First Knight" about as banal as Goldsmith was capable of being, to be honest; not one moment of genuine emotional thrills or wonderment to be found in the whole damn thing).

Doublehex, you have nothing to be ashamed of, especially not about your enthusiasm. The emotional connection is, IMHO, by far the most important aspect to music; if the music doesn't say anything, who cares how brilliantly its constructed? By far the best attribute to this thread (even moreso than the music) is its discourse; extremely varied and (almost) always respectful. And we all have said something we later regret. (I seem to remember writing a couple hundred words about how "Cutthroat Island" is only a mediocrity... ;) )

Man, I used a lot of parentheses.

streichorchester
05-28-2012, 05:28 AM
Soule calls himself a symphonist and a composer - but he is neither; he's a highly skilled synthesiser operator.
I think we may have discussed this before, but how do we explain Total Annihilation, Azurik, and that other game that was unfinished that I can't remember the name of but Soule had tracks up from on mp3.com back in the day? Those had soundtracks that sounded very advanced, both in composition and orchestration. Not perfect, but definitely good enough for games.

Listening to the new Guild Wars music (as well as Knights of the Old Republic) and its inadequate synths, it sounds like a completely different composer from the one who composed scores like TA. Is it that the professional orchestras are compensating for the synths? Does Soule spend more energy on composition/orchestration when a real orchestra is involved? Is the quality of the game playing a role in the inspiration? Maybe games like Guild Wars and Skyrim just don't call for a John Williams-inspired score, but then again the music shouldn't be taking a nosedive in quality. Maybe these Guild Wars and Old Republics are just Soule's auto-pilot scores. I think the biggest detriment is the lack of any significant theme, unlike TA.

As for First Knight, it's not my favourite of Goldsmith's. I find The 13th Warrior to be more adventurous and The Mummy to be more epic. Also, First Knight has that obvious rip from Vaughan Williams's Symphony No. 6 that kinda ruined it for me. Also let's not forget The Wind and the Lion, and especially Lionheart as being far superior as well. I guess what I'm saying is I give all those scores I mentioned a 5/5 while First Knight is more around 4/5 to 4.5/5 :)

Sirusjr
05-28-2012, 05:53 AM
Haha Doublehex...

You assume (perhaps wrongly) that many of us in this thread are musically inspired and actually educated. I, for one, am not anything close to adequately educated musically, and yet I consider most of what you find to be inherently titillating to be pretty boring. While I understand the lyrical qualities present in the Guild Wars 2 music that you shared here, notwithstanding its terribly low-bitrate qualities, I still have very little understanding of the basic underpinnings of what makes a proper orchestral score other than from listening to quality music.

For those curious, I spent elementary school and middle school playing band (mostly Clarinet until I moved to Bass Clarinet) and then spent two or three years in High School playing Bass Clarinet in the band and other than that have very little musical training. I couldn't have told you what counterpoint or proper thematic development was before I entered this thread and spent time to digest and understand the type of music the frequent posters consider to be high quality.

Despite that, I have somewhat of an ear for quality orchestral music and have tried my best to buy every single release in the past 2-3 years that seems to portray quality orchestral writing in the samples. I am absolutely nothing close to the classical education and understanding of Tango, Lens, Streich, and a few others. However, I do have a strange personality in that poorly executed synthesizers tend to drive me nuts.

Most of the time, the quality of music I discuss tends to follow from (1) the emotional response I get from what I hear, and (2) the enjoyment I get from hearing quality complex orchestral music.

Streich - please don't get me started on The Mummy. Something about the familiarity of the main theme prevents me from enjoying it. Every time I hear it I can't help but wonder where I heard it before, and thus can't enjoy a note of it, notwithstanding Goldsmith's talent.

[I should also note that I have backed up the Giant Robo scores so if someone needs re-uploads I can provide one or two of them]

tangotreats
05-28-2012, 08:54 AM
Since we're showing off our various levels of musical education, let me clarify a few things about mine; it is completely non-existent! I played the recorder for a few years at school, but I was hopeless and I quit when I was 8. Aside from that, reading + listening + time... I left school when I was 9 (I was educated at home from there) so I probably had more time than most to indulge my interests - which at the time consisted of Beethoven, Beethoven, a bit of Beethoven, and some Beethoven to finish. Oh yeah, and Beethoven if there was any time left. Gradually my horizons expanded; I'd stay up into the early hours of the morning listening to Radio 3 (the graveyard shift programme "Through The Night" is great for discovering new things - or it was in the mid to late nineties), borrowing records from the library, and generally trying to digest as much as I could. Also from about 10 to 14, "classical music night" evolved with my grandma. She was very sick (she had been for decades; mental difficulties) but she had a massive library of classical records and a husband who hated classical music with a passion. Her record player was busted, so I fixed it for her and I'd go over to visit and we'd just play some records. It was a nice opportunity for us to bond and listening to those crackly old LPs was about the only time I think I ever saw her happy and properly alert. So, I took in a lot there as well. (She passed away in 2003; my Grandad is still around and still despises classical music and despite my numerous efforts to cajoule him into being interested, he remains steadfast. Though he does occasionally notice if music is playing on TV and asks me if it's that Jeffrey Goldstein bloke I like so much - which is frequently isn't, but at least he's trying! ;)

Over time, I discovered that I worshipped Jerry Goldsmith, and so I developed an interest in film music - and in 2007 after being forcefed a Miyazaki film by my girlfriend (against my will; at the time my opinion of anime was pretty low) I discovered Hisaishi, and the rest is history.

So, if anybody is ever reading me bleating on about something and thinking I'm a comprehensively educated smart-arse---- I'm NOT! I'm just a simple Aspie who had too much time on his hands as a child.

On the topic of First Knight, I don't think it's Goldsmith's best - not by a long shot - but within his "later period" I do hold it in pretty high regard. The early to mid nineties was a period of change; Goldsmith was fed up with his scores being lost in a mix which increasingly marginalised music in favour of a congested melee of sound effects. Total Recall was, by his own admission, the final straw - thereafter he actively sought to strip away the "decorative" parts of his scores that wouldn't be heard and concentrate on what's left. As a Goldsmith fanatic, I must admit that I think those efforts went too far - leading to occasionally over-exposed and banal music in some of those later scores. I do see what he was up to, though - I don't ever feel as though the level of composition went down - just that he was trying to squash more into fewer notes and sometimes didn't manage it with the necessary aplomb.

Not that I dislike late Goldsmith - but First Knight versus The Wind And The Lion? No contest. Star Trek Nemesis versus The Motion Picture? No contest. Etcetera.

I have a feeling that I over-sold First Knight to emphassise its superiority over GW2 - and I stand by that assertion. Taking First Knight as low-tier Goldsmith (considering his entire body of work) its worst parts exceed Guild War's very best parts. That was all I was really trying to convey.

Finally - I may argue my case without mincing words. I may disagree with what's being said. I may genuinely fail to understand your reasons for feeling the way you do about something. But that's my problem, not yours! All these apologising and justifying posts need to stop! It would be stupendously boring if we all agreed on everything all of the time; besides, from disagreement, debate is born. And I find that a great deal of fun - and the encouragement of debate (and the frequent high quality of the debates here) is what I believe sets this thread apart from the others.

As NaotaM said (third time I've agreed with him this year - scary) music is about feeling something - not getting hot under the collar about analysis, nuts and bolts, and terminology. There are scores of composers who write music that looks great on paper but contains nor inspires zero emotional content - aside, perhaps, from a passionate desire on the part of the listener to stop the noise! To hell with that. That sort of music is like a dictionary - it's got a lot of words in it, really complicated words, words you've never heard of, words you'll never use... but words are meaningless if they're not telling a story. And if I have to chose between a good story told in 100 common words, and a patronising incomprehensible melange of excessive verbiage, well, there really is no competition.

That notwithstanding, simple doesn't have to mean stupid - and complicated doesn't have to mean clever.

And this post is far, far too long. My apologies, gentlemen.

JBarron2005
05-28-2012, 02:09 PM
I think we may have discussed this before, but how do we explain Total Annihilation, Azurik, and that other game that was unfinished that I can't remember the name of but Soule had tracks up from on mp3.com back in the day?

I believe you are referring to Amen - The Awakening. I loved that main theme!

I agree with Sirius the method of enjoying music. I mean, music that doesn't trigger an emotion really isn't considered music to that particular person. Every time I hear David Arnold's theme to Tomorrow Never Dies (Surrender) at the end of the film when James saves Wai Lin from being drowned. It is the build up to that emotion with the brass and then finally that theme gets played by the strings and sweeps me away. If I didn't get that emotion from the music, then I think I would be wasting my time.

Since we are all reminiscing on our pastimes... my educational background in music isn't really much either. Like the rest of you, I was in high school band and I played first chair trumpet since I was in 5th grade and also taught myself the piano. Through that experience I learned how to write music and have been writing ever since. I did take a music theory class, but it was only a semester long and it wasn't as comprehensive as I had hoped. I did teach marching band music and drill to students for three years and that was the best time I had spent in high school. I did get the opportunity to have some of my work performed by the concert band and I always conducted my music. Speaking of conductors... does John Williams look boring when he conducts an orchestra? I guess it shouldn't matter because the results of him doing so are amazing, but if I wrote as good as him I would be showing more emotion conducting it.

streichorchester
05-28-2012, 04:36 PM
I believe you are referring to Amen - The Awakening. I loved that main theme!
Yeah, what's the deal with that one? I think Soule was using some pre-written/pre-recorded music of his and "releasing" them as samples from the OST, but the Mysterious Attacker track is definitely in the same vein as Total Annihilation, like an unused track from the recording sessions. It is superbly orchestrated, and far superior to much of anything of his since, with the exception of that Azurik suite.

arthierr
05-28-2012, 10:30 PM
I guess I have no choice...

Hi, my name's Arthierr, and I've been addicted to orchestral music since... err, no, wait, let's do this another way!

So, like most of us, I don't have any academic musical education (except a few basics from school and playing recorder), but I did learn a lot by myself over the years, because it's just something I do (I'm a thorough autodidact in many domains). Now I can say without too much hesitation that I've got some reasonable basics in music, basics which anyone interested in this artform should at least have, I believe.

Artistically, I dabbled in several arts, but originally it's in graphic arts that I've been really active. When I started drawing at 3 or 4, people looked at my sketches with an overwhelmed face and passed them to each others with enthusiasm (when you're very young and witness this kind of behavior, it leaves a mark). It never really changed later on: comrades, colleagues and other people tended to have the same reactions, and I often had requests for portraits, caricatures, monsters, muscular men, sexy ladies or various other stuff. And people were usually VERY happy with the result (mesmerized eyes and half open mouth are generally good signs!).

But when it comes to music, even though I intensively listened to orchestral music since an early age (mainly film scores, Beethoven, Dvorak, and a few other Romantic composers), just because I spontaneously liked it, I started studying it only near... my twenties! Why so late? Because it is then that I started composing.

Indeed, I had the great luck to stumble across an incredible app called Impulse Tracker 2, which allowed you, in exchange of some learning efforts at the beginning, to compose like a breeze, quickly, easily, as the music came out of your mind, and without having to know anything about music theory (which was my case then).

So I experimented a lot with this tool, composing some stuff that I retrospectively judge often interesting but way underachieved. But I quickly realized that I mostly didn't really know what I was doing, and my pieces all had that blatant amateurish feel, even when there was some good material at the core. Of course I intuitively knew a few things about music without having to learn them, like brasses are more masculine and strings more feminine, or sad music is better with a slow tempo while action music needs a fast tempo, stuff like that, basic musical good sense. But most subtleties of composition and orchestration were a complete secret for me.

So progressively, in order to try to create better music, some that I could be proud of, I started reading articles, then basic books, and even at times advanced books (which I tended to quickly abandon!) on music, you know, stuff which gives you some solid and precious basics which you can rely on to go further (you can't build a roof if you haven't installed the walls). Then, the quality of my music actually started to skyrocket, because I began to know what I was doing, why such artistic choice produces such psychological / emotional effect, what is the causal link between the two, why you should do this and avoid that, etc. In short, how music works, its components and mechanics.

Now, I'm far from being a musical expert who knows all the secrets of music, of course, but thanks to this educational process I certainly am more than an amateur, let's say someone with a good musical culture, an enlighted amateur, if you will.

Now, about the idea that "love and enthusiasm is all you need", it is a very, very cute and optimistic idea, but I would be very cautious and tempered with it. It's even surprising that it comes from someone who aspires to be a serious reviewer.

Imagine you have to explore a jungle, a deep, hostile one, filled with hundreds of different dangers, and you can only bring one guide with you. You have to choose between:

a) A very experienced and knowledgeable guide, who knows almost everything about that jungle, its threats, its opportunities, how to find water, how to heal yourself using local plants, what you can eat and what is poisonous, which creatures to avoid, how to deal with local indigens, etc. BUT, the guy is rather phlegmatic, blas�, since he's done that a lot.

b) A very motivated, excited, enthusiastic guide, BUT, one who knows little to nothing about survival in an hostile jungle. But hey, he's really, really willing to help!

Someone wise and reasonable would of course choose without the slightest hesitation the experienced one, right? Because if things go awry, which has a very high probability of happening in such situation, *he* is the one who most likely will be able to save your fat ass!

Well, in fact, a music reviewer is often a bit like a guide, who helps you exploring not a jungle, but a piece of music. He talks to you of something that you either haven't tried yet, or have tried but lack the knowledge and / or time to deeply understand. He comes with you, he guides you through the piece, he tells you why he thinks this is good and that is not; he explains that there are three big themes, two subthemes, and four motifs (which you haven't clearly perceived at first, but now you can spot them, thanks to him), that the orchestrations are pretty basic and the performance mediocre, but on the other hand the thematic writing is very subtle, cleverly interveawing themes and motives in the right places, without being bloated, and he shows you where exactly. He also talks to you about the origins of this piece, its influences, which other pieces it rips off, etc. In short, a good reviewer does a lot of things in order to guide you through the piece, telling you dozens of things about it that you mostly don't know. This is why most people read reviews.

How could a real reviewer, I mean a competent one, do this if a) he's not very knowledgeable on this particular piece (not having thouroughly listened and analysed it), and b) he's not very knowledgeable on music in general, which would give him the ability, and credence, to guide someone else through a piece? What's the point of reading an amateurish review saying "I like this, I don't like that, don't really know why, just the way I feel about it"? Is such a review an interesting one? Does it brings something positive and cunstructive to you after you read it?

Now don't think that I say that only experts should talk about things, that the opinion of the layman has no value at all. Of course not, all opinions are welcome, anybody is entitled to give his impressions, his personal views on a piece. but there's a big difference between a little opinion expressed in a forum or a blog, and an ambitious review. when one wants to be serious about reviewing, to reach a professional level, he has to thoroughly educate himself and get a substantial expertise so he can talk about things he really knows, and therefore expertly guide other people through these things.

Oh, and if this post seems too long, I don't care. In fact, my position is: if it's interesting and makes sense, the more the better. ;)

NaotaM
05-29-2012, 12:51 AM
Now, about the idea that "love and enthusiasm is all you need", it is a very, very cute and optimistic idea, but I would be very cautious and tempered with it. It's even surprising that it comes from someone who aspires to be a serious reviewer.

Imagine you have to explore a jungle, a deep, hostile one, filled with hundreds of different dangers, and you can only bring one guide with you. You have to choose between:

a) A very experienced and knowledgeable guide, who knows almost everything about that jungle, its threats, its opportunities, how to find water, how to heal yourself using local plants, what you can eat and what is poisonous, which creatures to avoid, how to deal with local indigens, etc. BUT, the guy is rather phlegmatic, blas�, since he's done that a lot.

b) A very motivated, excited, enthusiastic guide, BUT, one who knows little to nothing about survival in an hostile jungle. But hey, he's really, really willing to help!

Someone wise and reasonable would of course choose without the slightest hesitation the experienced one, right? Because if things go awry, which has a very high probability of happening in such situation, *he* is the one who most likely will be able to save your fat ass!

Well, in fact, a music reviewer is often a bit like a guide, who helps you exploring not a jungle, but a piece of music. He talks to you of something that you either haven't tried yet, or have tried but lack the knowledge and / or time to deeply understand. He comes with you, he guides you through the piece, he tells you why he thinks this is good and that is not; he explains that there are three big themes, two subthemes, and four motifs (which you haven't clearly perceived at first, but now you can spot them, thanks to him), that the orchestrations are pretty basic and the performance mediocre, but on the other hand the thematic writing is very subtle, cleverly interveawing themes and motives in the right places, without being bloated, and he shows you where exactly. He also talks to you about the origins of this piece, its influences, which other pieces it rips off, etc. In short, a good reviewer does a lot of things in order to guide you through the piece, telling you dozens of things about it that you mostly don't know. This is why most people read reviews.

How could a real reviewer, I mean a competent one, do this if a) he's not very knowledgeable on this particular piece (not having thouroughly listened and analysed it), and b) he's not very knowledgeable on music in general, which would give him the ability, and credence, to guide someone else through a piece? What's the point of reading an amateurish review saying "I like this, I don't like that, don't really know why, just the way I feel about it"? Is such a review an interesting one? Does it brings something positive and cunstructive to you after you read it?

Now don't think that I say that only experts should talk about things, that the opinion of the layman has no value at all. Of course not, all opinions are welcome, anybody is entitled to give his impressions, his personal views on a piece. but there's a big difference between a little opinion expressed in a forum or a blog, and an ambitious review. when one wants to be serious about reviewing, to reach a professional level, he has to thoroughly educate himself and get a substantial expertise so he can talk about things he really knows, and therefore expertly guide other people through these things.

Oh, and if this post seems too long, I don't care. In fact, my position is: if it's interesting and makes sense, the more the better. ;)

You misunderstand(and could stand to drop some of the condescending language while you're at it.) Alla any of us were really saying is Doublehex or anyone else shouldn't feel the need to shy away from discussion or feel embarrassed about just expressing themselves about the things they love just because they can't break down every single song into its component parts or pick out influences they likely never heard of or namedrop classical composer A through Z. It's not about education, we're not discussing life or death practicality. People should always want to learn more about the objects of their passion, and hopefully debates help do just that, but if he wants to speak up, let him. Just speak your mind and back it up the best you can.

Naturally, a review should be far more informed and substantial than just "Well, I liked it. A+." No argument there. That's just bad writing and analysis. To his credit, Doublehex does a fine job already of avoiding such banality just being excited about stuff, and hopefully my previous (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/212.html#post1482840) couple (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/233.html#post1507762) of reviews and participation in this thread prove I can write about music satisfactorily. I can tell ya all about themes, counterpoint, Baroque or Romantic influences, Impressionism, syncopation, etc. Things like modal writing and time signatures still elude me, but one learns through exposure.

More to the point, though, I've personally always had a problem with the opposite extreme of the analogy you used; reviews that read like a basic description of the instruments used, maybe some weak adjectives, interspersed with musical terminology and that's it, or worse, describe literally every movement and instrumental shift in a given piece; "It starts slowly with a restatement of the main theme, then the woodwinds flutter at 1:26, only to die down again two minutes in with a flourish of brass. Then the woodwinds pick back up at 2: 45, at which point the bongos come in and ZZZZZZZZZZ." And I dread that sort of writing because it doesn't convey to me what the music may actually sound or feel like, especially to a laymen, and the writing itself lacks the very emotion that could help me connect more to the product described, far less than simply sitting down and listening to the discussed piece myself for two minutes, which is a large part of why most consider music criticism particularly arbitrary compared to other fields of analysis. But this is veering more into Writing Chat, so bleugh. Just my two cents.

Doublehex
05-29-2012, 03:11 AM
Ah, you guys love me! You really, really love me!

Seriously though, I think there is a bit of miscommunication here gents. I have no problem with chiming in most of the time - how many times have I spawned one discussion or another because I just had to chime in? The point I was trying to get across was why my arguments had the tendency to be so darn repetitive. I wasn't trying to imply that everyone had some case of proper musical education. I was just making loose comparisons as to everyone's journey into orchestral music in relation to mine with videogames and stories.

I mean, that whole dissonance debate was the only time I consciously held myself back from pressing reply. Any other time it was mostly because I didn't quite feel like jumping into a debate, for whatever reason. More often than not, if I want to jump into a debate, I will. God forbid if we ever bring up American politics in here. Then you'll have me bringing absolute hell on everything.

But that's beside the point. You guys are - if you will pardon me sounding a tad bit British - real swell for saying don't feel bad...even when I wasn't to begin with. The rest of the internet would have said something stupid and dickish, but you guys were just all "Motherfucking brofist, you fucker".

And since I am the ultimate derailer...


More to the point, though, I've personally always had a problem with the opposite extreme of the analogy you used; reviews that read like a basic description of the instruments used, maybe some weak adjectives, interspersed with musical terminology and that's it, or worse, describe literally every movement and instrumental shift in a given piece; "It starts slowly with a restatement of the main theme, then the woodwinds flutter at 1:26, only to die down again two minutes in with a flourish of brass. Then the woodwinds pick back up at 2: 45, at which point the bongos come in and ZZZZZZZZZZ." And I dread that sort of writing because it doesn't convey to me what the music may actually sound or feel like, especially to a laymen, and the writing itself lacks the very emotion that could help me connect more to the product described, far less than simply sitting down and listening to the discussed piece myself for two minutes, which is a large part of why most consider music criticism particularly arbitrary compared to other fields of analysis. But this is veering more into Writing Chat, so bleugh. Just my two cents.

This! This is what I'm talking about! Well, not really. But if we were to talk about music reviews more often, I would be talking about it!

Those reviews are so boring and dull. If we wanted textbook reviews, we would sign up for college dissertations. When we are reading your review, we want details, but not sterile ones! We want you to talk to us how the cue or theme emotionally touched you! How did those strings compliment the rest of the piece? I mean, there's a great deal of logic in the whole composing business, but there's also passion too!

Remember that Kingdoms of Amalur that was linked way back when? How the reviewer used the word "epic" as if that explained everything? As a writer that pissed me off for a ton of reasons, but mostly because it said...nothing! The ingredient to a great review is almost always the same as a good book: details! What was it that made the soundtrack epic? Why was it epic? How did you think that made the soundtrack epic? Details, motherfucker! Gives us some friggen details! Details breathe life into writing! Words are sterile enough nowadays, what with it 90% of the time being inscribed via keyboards. Might as well put some life into it with details! And creativity too - epic is as cliche a word you can use when reviewing something. It doesn't help that it's pretty much a meme.

JBarron2005
05-29-2012, 04:30 AM
Yeah, what's the deal with that one? I think Soule was using some pre-written/pre-recorded music of his and "releasing" them as samples from the OST, but the Mysterious Attacker track is definitely in the same vein as Total Annihilation, like an unused track from the recording sessions. It is superbly orchestrated, and far superior to much of anything of his since, with the exception of that Azurik suite.

If he wrote all of his music in the quality of Mysterious Attacker, he could be called the "John Williams" of video game scores; however, people calling him that regardless isn't so accurate considering that not every score he has done has been great (e.g. Prey).

streichorchester
05-29-2012, 05:18 AM
More to the point, though, I've personally always had a problem with the opposite extreme of the analogy you used; reviews that read like a basic description of the instruments used, maybe some weak adjectives, interspersed with musical terminology and that's it, or worse, describe literally every movement and instrumental shift in a given piece; "It starts slowly with a restatement of the main theme, then the woodwinds flutter at 1:26, only to die down again two minutes in with a flourish of brass. Then the woodwinds pick back up at 2: 45, at which point the bongos come in and ZZZZZZZZZZ." And I dread that sort of writing because it doesn't convey to me what the music may actually sound or feel like, especially to a laymen, and the writing itself lacks the very emotion that could help me connect more to the product described, far less than simply sitting down and listening to the discussed piece myself for two minutes, which is a large part of why most consider music criticism particularly arbitrary compared to other fields of analysis. But this is veering more into Writing Chat, so bleugh. Just my two cents.
What you're describing sounds more like an analysis than a review, like what you would see in a concert program when you go to the symphony. Reviews tend to be more personal, more opinionated, while an analysis is more factual and objective. Often when we like something we tend to write more of a review, but when we don't like something we'll write more of an analysis (I guess it's more important to state reasons why you don't like something less someone gets offended.) I myself like to do analysis because I'm a composer/theorist/historian/whatever so I hope people don't think they have to hear music like I do in order to write a review for it.

NaotaM
05-29-2012, 06:05 AM
What you're describing sounds more like an analysis than a review, like what you would see in a concert program when you go to the symphony. Reviews tend to be more personal, more opinionated, while an analysis is more factual and objective. Often when we like something we tend to write more of a review, but when we don't like something we'll write more of an analysis (I guess it's more important to state reasons why you don't like something less someone gets offended.) I myself like to do analysis because I'm a composer/theorist/historian/whatever so I hope people don't think they have to hear music like I do in order to write a review for it.

What is a review but subjective opinion educated by critical analysis? Reviews that are wholly positive are let down by poor writing and inability to back up one's impressions just as much as with negative ones.

I don't criticism you for liking to analyze music, there's a place for it, it can be interesting. I just hate it when reviews take that approach because, well, it's just dull, and reading it in the mindset of a means to imagine the music and make an informed purchase fails to create that....image? Sound? I do find it strange you consider reviews and analysis to be mutually exclusive.

Sadly, though, many soundtrack reviews I've seen take exactly the bland, "analytical" approach I was bemoaning. Even SEMO and Anime Instrumentality fall victim to this much of the time, and the latter likes to get bogged down gabbing about the context, too. Some people find that important and it makes sense for soundtrack work, but I don't give a shit about context and get bored at the 80,000th line about how the horns bring to mind a break in the dark clouds or whatever. The vast majority of my collection is awesome music set to shit I'll never watch. Talk about the music.

streichorchester
05-29-2012, 07:07 AM
I do find it strange you consider reviews and analysis to be mutually exclusive.
That's not what I said at all. I'm referring to a degree of analysis versus opinion within reviews. You like reviews with more opinion than analysis, which is fine. Just don't read my analysis and expect fluffiness. I'm a take-no-prisoners kind of guy, and if a composer is going to incorrectly resolve a IV V I cadential progression with parallel 5ths... heads will roll! (I'm looking at you, Zimmer!) I mean, at least try to write a double-suspended 6/4 cadence to the tonal dominant. I know it's cliched, but by Jove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology)), if it worked for Bach, it will work for everybody.

NaotaM
05-29-2012, 07:16 AM
Ah, gotcha. ;)

Doublehex
05-29-2012, 03:51 PM
That's not what I said at all. I'm referring to a degree of analysis versus opinion within reviews. You like reviews with more opinion than analysis, which is fine. Just don't read my analysis and expect fluffiness. I'm a take-no-prisoners kind of guy, and if a composer is going to incorrectly resolve a IV V I cadential progression with parallel 5ths... heads will roll! (I'm looking at you, Zimmer!) I mean, at least try to write a double-suspended 6/4 cadence to the tonal dominant. I know it's cliched, but by Jove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology)), if it worked for Bach, it will work for everybody.

Uh huh. Mhmm. Yup.

Yeah, I know some of these words!

arthierr
05-29-2012, 09:06 PM
That's not what I said at all. I'm referring to a degree of analysis versus opinion within reviews. You like reviews with more opinion than analysis, which is fine. Just don't read my analysis and expect fluffiness. I'm a take-no-prisoners kind of guy, and if a composer is going to incorrectly resolve a IV V I cadential progression with parallel 5ths... heads will roll! (I'm looking at you, Zimmer!) I mean, at least try to write a double-suspended 6/4 cadence to the tonal dominant. I know it's cliched, but by Jove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology)), if it worked for Bach, it will work for everybody.

I'd like to remind everybody that for obvious reasons of sound communication, it's recommended not to speak chinese in this forum. We are all from various countries, hence it is necessary to use a common language so we can understand each other, that's why it is greatly encouraged to speak english. Thank you.

(Now you understand why I gave up advanced music books...)

tangotreats
05-30-2012, 09:13 AM
Tombstone - I forgot about that one!

Another personal favourite...
North And South (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14oYFlR5CMg) / Giant Robo OST 1 - Main Title - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X8C4NkOV5Kg#t=65s)

Herr Salat
05-30-2012, 10:06 AM
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Faleel
05-30-2012, 07:08 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-dare/classical-music-concerts_b_1525896.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

the last word in the url is quite fitting.

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?feature=mhee

NaotaM
05-30-2012, 08:34 PM
Richard Dare: The Awfulness of Classical Music Explained (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-dare/classical-music-concerts_b_1525896.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false)

the last word in the url is quite fitting.

Jesus, the stupidity and anti-intellectualism of that article is astonishing. Oh, really? Do orchestral concerts strike you as stuffier than fucking hip-hop concerts? That's because they're different things, you blithering dolt. What next, whine about how theaters ask you(though they should really enforce) to turn off your phones? You don't go to wedding s or funerals in hawaiian shirts and jean shorts. This entirearticle and a good portion of the douchebag comments following it, spouting false non-arguments like "elitism" and "snootiness" and "should we just sit there like sheep" are just such obvious masks for inherent insecurities about feeling like classical music, the people who play it and enjoy it are so much smarter than the "normals."

I don't care that the earliest concerts were filled with the 1890's equivalent of Justin Beiber fangirls hollering like neanderthals and holding up I LUV U signs. Some settings just have different levels of decorum slightly higher than Casual Fridays, and if you can't accept that, despite the fact that everyone on earth deals with such things every single day of their lives, then fine, but the problem lies with you.

TazerMonkey
05-30-2012, 09:32 PM
That article is truly one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Many of the attributes he decries are aspects of the concert experience I enjoy; God forbid people go to a music concert to appreciate the substance of the music rather than as yet another excuse to party. According to that article, my preferences make me a conforming fascist.

So let's follow his suggestions! While we're at it, let's add strobing lights and mirror balls to the Louvre! Snoop Dog can be the new curator and pass out the grass, yo! It's the 21st century! Woot!

Vinphonic
05-30-2012, 09:53 PM
A bit late to the party, just my two cents: I have no musical education besides playing an instrument and reading one or the other book about composing music. My knowledge consists otherwise of listening to an evergrowing collection of soundtracks, symphonies and scores from all media. I started with Star Wars, became a fan of Williams, Horner and Goldsmith and grew up with music for Nintendo systems. Then I worked my way up into the domain of Dvorak and Beethoven and after a while (with the help of Tanaka) into the musical world of Japan. Nowadays I adore many japanese composers, love Sahashi, Oshima, Tanaka and Hisaishi to death and hold the music composed for Nintendo close to my heart.

But enough about my lack of musical expertise, I have a *BIG* surprise for you: Another Star Wars game score! ... but wait, this one is recorded with the LSO!!! and absolutly superb, closer to the film scores than any other attempt I've heared till now. Here's 60 minutes of Big Orchestral Action. This is the sound that needs to return to the big screen asap (or at least to a game I would want to play).

The London Symphony Orchestra



Music composed by Gordy Haab & Kyle Newmaster

Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/PCA22AMK/KSW.zip_links)

If there is a soundtrack release I would buy two copies to support these guys (unfortunatly, there isn't one as of yet). There is over 120 minutes of music recorded, so I'm eagerly awaiting the gamerip and a possible soundtrack in the future.


About the article: It's stupid and ignorant. If one person would have cheered during the Secret of Mana movement from symphonic fantasies, it would have been unacceptable. It also has nothing to do with age or class, it is more about etiquette and some goddamn common sense. We were lucky that Symphonic Fantasies was performed in germany, where concert culture is still respected and treasured. Imagine that concert with the audience from the recent Zelda concerts ...

arthierr
05-30-2012, 10:17 PM
I can't but agree with you, guys, even with NaotaM (yeah, feels weird). To each situation its etiquette, to each event its protocol. You can't eat at the Tour d'Argent like you eat at Hooters. Plain good sense.

I think what the guy (probably) fails to understand is that if classical concert goers show less emotional effusion and look scarily placid, it's not because they aren't excited, but because they're excited inside. Their much more deeper apprehension of music can fully operate only if there's no distraction of any sort, so the music can purely shine and effectively reach their ears and mind. Behind their mask of indifference, these people actually jubilate, and sometimes much more than popular concerts goers.

On the other hand, popular concerts are filled with people who have a much more superficial approach to music (no disrespect); sometimes they're not even there for the music, but rather to see their favorite stars live, showing their cute face and shaking their sexy booty in front of them. Popular concerts are generally more like giant parties where the music, while important, is only one elements to enjoy among others.


klnerfan: wonderful surprise! Thank you very much. I hope there are new themes in this one.

NaotaM
05-30-2012, 11:08 PM
Thanks a ton, klnerfan. Like arthierr, really wasn't expecting much, but there's some nice material here.

And really, what are the odds on arthierr and I ever agreeing on anything? Ever? I mean, I'm FLIPPING OUT. What are the odds? The folly of it, the drama! My perceptions and misconceptions of reality as I know it are twisting upon each other. The infeasible twist of fortune that two people could ever see eye to eye on a thing is so transcendentally, life-affirmingly miraculous that I will henceforth point out this bizarre, beautiful, fleeting glimpse of the human condition every single time it occurs, which I'm sure will in no way come across as stupid, obnoxious or pointlessly backhanded! :D

A snippet of Naoki Sato's score for the Blood-C film can be found here in this early stream of the movie's opening minutes. http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120529090938/

It's not much, and what's there is disappointingly Dark Knight-esque. One can hope for the rest of it, and I'm sure there'll be plenty, but I'm not holding my breath for a masterpiece on this one.

arthierr
05-30-2012, 11:45 PM
Come on, don't tell me that someone as calm, placid, imperturbable and good natured as you got a little irritated by some friendly teasing. Where is your legendary sense of humor, and what happened to your renowned serenity which makes Droopy look like a maniac under steroids? :D

NaotaM
05-30-2012, 11:50 PM
It all got used up around the first several dozen thousand times! :D Got any more notes to hit, Mencia, or is it just the one?

Doublehex
05-31-2012, 12:43 AM
On Star Wars Kinect: I believe we should develop a formula for determining orchestral music quality.

For every X of lack of quality of said media, said media's music shall be Y in direct opposition.

This would explain why Nolan's Batman trilogy, some of the best superhero/crime films of all time, have absolutely terrible music, and why Star Wars Kinect, an absolute embarrassment and widely considered a game on equal scale of ET for the Atari. Yeah, it was that bad.

Also, we should have another rule specifically for video game rips:

The lower the quality of bit rates for the initial release, the higher the possible quality of music for said release.

Sirusjr
05-31-2012, 01:03 AM
The lower the quality of bit rates for the initial release, the higher the possible quality of music for said release.

And if so, such a huge fail on the part of everyone involved. What good is it for quality music to be written only to be relegated to disgusting low-bitrate versions in a rip. I have no problem sticking with the usually poor quality of a game rip in most cases, but at least most of these are available in decent quality mp3s. Oh well, another decent score limited by 128kbps rips.

TazerMonkey
05-31-2012, 02:19 PM
What good is it for quality music to be written only to be relegated to disgusting low-bitrate versions in a rip. I have no problem sticking with the usually poor quality of a game rip in most cases, but at least most of these are available in decent quality mp3s. Oh well, another decent score limited by 128kbps rips.

Hopefully the music files on the actual disc are of higher fidelity for the eventual rip. If not, perhaps someone with access will "lose" a hard drive that just happens to contain FLAC files...

Definitely the most impressive SW game music I've yet heard...

Sirusjr
05-31-2012, 05:11 PM
Hopefully the music files on the actual disc are of higher fidelity for the eventual rip. If not, perhaps someone with access will "lose" a hard drive that just happens to contain FLAC files...

Definitely the most impressive SW game music I've yet heard...

Well the Kinect Star Wars sounds quite a lot clearer than the Guild Wars 2 rip at the same bitrate, and quite a few other recent 128kbps leaks I've heard, so it isn't as bad as I thought.

Isaias Caetano
06-01-2012, 12:08 AM
Star Wars (Music composed by Gordy Haab & Kyle Newmaster)


Music composed by Gordy Haab & Kyle Newmaster

Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/PCA22AMK/KSW.zip_links)

Obrigado

Doublehex
06-01-2012, 02:15 AM
Um...any idea why the same score was posted twice, on the same page, at the same exact quality?

EDIT: Hell, it's even the same exact link!

jakob
06-01-2012, 03:35 AM
Um...any idea why the same score was posted twice, on the same page, at the same exact quality?

EDIT: Hell, it's even the same exact link!

I think it was meant as a quote of the original post, as he said "thank you" after.

tangotreats
06-01-2012, 09:24 AM
Yep - there's nothing like expressing gratitude by doing a wholesale copy/paste of the entire post, despite this being atrocious ettiquete, spectacularly annoying, and frequently complained about... and following it up with a Portuguese word that nobody understands.

Edit: YES YES YES!!!!!!! Yoshihisa Hirano back to his old self in Hunter x Hunter OST 2 - screaming dissonance, crashing harmonies, twisted fanfares. "Realized Capacity" is in pure Break Blade / Kotetsushin Jeeg territory. Now I think I know what he was up to; scoring the first "batch" with relatively light-hearted, classical-style pieces so that the shift in tone as the show progresses becomes even more potent. Still, the stylistic turnaround is quite surprising!

I don't have it yet - I'm listening to samples at CDjapan.

Doublehex
06-01-2012, 02:52 PM
I never even got a chance to listen to the first OST. By your post, it sounds like Hirano wasn't quite up to par. Would you say that's true Tango, or is it still worth me tracking it down?

tangotreats
06-01-2012, 06:22 PM
I never even got a chance to listen to the first OST. By your post, it sounds like Hirano wasn't quite up to par. Would you say that's true Tango, or is it still worth me tracking it down?

Well, it's only my opinion so don't take it as too much gospel... :)

I don't believe he wasn't up to par, not at all. But the first batch of music (as represented on OST 1) was certainly a stylystic departure for Hirano - it seemed as though he made concessions in his technique to the target audience of the show - which he did, and he admitted he did. The important thing, though, is that the music was still excellent - it just wasn't quite texturally what one would expect from Hirano.

At the time, I described it as lobotomised - that was unfair. Most of it is the kind of music that wouldn't really raise eyebrows to a composer of the classical era. It was missing Hirano's often terrifying skill at mixing up genres - taking a baroque structure, a classical melody, a late romantic orchestration, and a modernist dissonant attitude to harmony... and squashing it all up together and coming out the other end with something that wasn't merely incredible sounding - it was apallingly good music.

As HunterXhunter progresses, it seems as though Hirano's score is gradually morphing back into more of what you would expect.

It certainly clarifies his intention... and suffice to say makes me foam at the mouth thinking of what OST's 3 and 4 will sound like. (It is likely that they will appear given the series length; there will be a third at least.)

In addition, I hear that there will be a movie adaptation of the TV series... I wonder if Hirano will be writing original music for it (MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE big orchestra etc) or perhaps they will recycle his TV score.

Either way, what this guy gets out of a 38 piece orchestra never ceases to amaze me.

ShaneLessor
06-03-2012, 07:38 AM
I don't have it uploaded but the final part of "Unwilling To Stay, Unable to Leave" from the Titanic soundtrack is phenomenal.

moviemusicsi
06-04-2012, 12:37 AM
Did anyone record this concert with john williams it was performed on sat night.

The Boston Symphony Orchestra in Concert (http://www.wgbh.org/programs/The-Boston-Symphony-Orchestra-in-Concert-1641/episodes/Film-Night-38707)

Thanks

arthierr
06-04-2012, 01:30 PM
Just saw John Carter lately. Loved it. An extremely entertaining movie from start to finish. Not one that'll greatly raise your IQ level, but a truly big, delicious, creamy cake to enjoy innocently.

I'ts VERY much inspired by Stargate obviously, in the story, the visuals, and of course the music. Not a real problem for me since I also loved Stargate, and in fact, John Carter mostly leaves this same pleasant, spellbinding impression of exotic fantasy after having seen it.

There were a few shortcomings, such as a few incoherences in the script or some cliched, obligatory, or precipitate story events, but the biggest flaw is certainly the choice of the main actor, who, let's admit, is pretty much bland, transparent. Perhaps the movie would have achieved more success with a more charismatic actor, because this one, frankly, you wouldn't even notice him if he was dancing naked while singing the Macarena during a solemn Classical concert. Happily, the fascinating presence of the very beautiful and sexy actress playing the Princess compensates a little for that (someone find me a real size poster of her in ceremony costume!).

Now about the music, as I expressed some months ago, it was a really good surprise. Some authentic big Hollywood bombast like they used to make, you know, before terrible tastes and mercantile mindsets started to become dominant (or THAT much dominant, let's not be naive). The big orchestral sound playing at high volume, the very thematic and inspired score, all of this greatly enhanced my enjoyment of the movie. And the fact is that the main theme obsessed me for about two days after having seen the movie, bringing back snatches of memories of it.

Interesting detail, there's one moment near the end when Giacchino does a little musical joke: he uses a pastiche of the Batman theme when two mirrors pivot in order to reflect the moonlight. At the moment I saw this I thought it was a great idea, very clever and funny, but after a while, when I thought to it again, I realized that when it happened, it just projected me an instant out of the scene (a very intense and dramatic one) and out of the movie itself (intentionally bringing back memories of another movie). Because of this, I think it's not a very good move, actually, since it diverts the natural flow of the movie. Musical humour should be used with caution.

Octavi
06-04-2012, 02:21 PM
Is it possible a re-up for ARIA The Animayion?

Thanks!!


And for the ARIA The NATURAL The Complete Score and ARIA The ORIGINATION The Complete Score?

Please!!!!

Sirusjr
06-04-2012, 04:30 PM
Great post Arthierr. I am wondering, do you notice a big difference between the music as it is in the film and the mix on the CD? I noticed with Super 8 and others that it seems the scores sound more natural on the film version.

arthierr
06-04-2012, 05:04 PM
I can't really tell you since I saw the film and heard the score both in "unofficial" versions (if you see what I mean), so the quality of both wasn't good enough to be able to do this kind of fine comparison. Besides, as some people noticed, it seems the mp3 score posted was a transcode, which doesn't help to do this either.

I'll try to occasionally post a short mixed review (review is a big word, but you see the idea) of a film I saw and of its score, if there are some interesting things to point out about them or if I really liked them. If someone else want to do the same, you're welcome (make sure you talk enough about the music and that it's mostly orchestral).

Herr Salat
06-04-2012, 09:40 PM
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Faleel
06-04-2012, 11:37 PM
I can't really tell you since I saw the film and heard the score both in "unofficial" versions (if you see what I mean), so the quality of both wasn't good enough to be able to do this kind of fine comparison. Besides, as some people noticed, it seems the mp3 score posted was a transcode, which doesn't help to do this either.

I'll try to occasionally post a short mixed review (review is a big word, but you see the idea) of a film I saw and of its score, if there are some interesting things to point out about them or if I really liked them. If someone else want to do the same, you're welcome (make sure you talk enough about the music and that it's mostly orchestral).

Did you hear John Williams Tintin theme in Sab Than Pursues the Princess? ;)

tidedsued
06-05-2012, 07:50 AM
please I need the sound of glory and 16 days of glory; i searched this albums in every place but im still cant find it, please can someone help this poor fella to get this great works???

JRL3001
06-06-2012, 05:09 AM
Just saw John Carter lately. ...

I'ts VERY much inspired by Stargate obviously, in the story, the visuals, and of course the music. Not a real problem for me since I also loved Stargate, and in fact, John Carter mostly leaves this same pleasant, spellbinding impression of exotic fantasy after having seen it.



Very fun movie, one I will be snapping up on DVD when it comes out! It's a pity it got panned in the theaters since Disney did not properly advertise it. John Carter of Mars (originally Edgar Rice Burroughs' novel, A Princess of Mars) predates Stargate by about 80 years, published in 1917. The issue is that a lot of people think John Carter copied many modern Scifi movies like Avatar, Stargate and Star Wars even, but in fact the Mars series was pretty much the genesis for the modern Science Fantasy story. This is a fact that was NOT capitalized on in advertising...

sansgarantie
06-08-2012, 06:14 PM
Any chance to get a reup of mp3 Semi Shigure?


Hey. I posted in the last days a handful of asian soundtracks. Among all of them, i selected to re-post here these two soundtracks, because i believe they deserve to be mentioned in the orchestral thread, and of course because they are also entirely orchestral.


The soundtracks are Furin Kazan by Akira Senju and Semi Shigure by Taro Iwashiro.




Fūrin Kazan

Music Composed by Akira Senju
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Furin Kazan has all the ingredients of a good score. The main theme is heroic by nature and very enjoyable to listen. It is played many times in the score, but always orchestrated differently each time. It's not a monothematic score. There are also secundary themes for the moments of action, drama and romance.
The score culminates to a grand finale in what is one of the best tracks 'One Empire Under Heaven', and my personal favorite track of the album.



The second soundtrack is Semi Shigure by Taro Iwashiro.






Semi Shigure

Music Composed and Conducted by Taro Iwashiro

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If you expect action music here, you won't find any. The soundrack eludes the emphatic and epic to focus on intimacy. It's more in the side of calm and pensive music, in the same vein of other Iwashiro scores (Kaze no Hate, Shinobi, Katen no Shiro). It is focused mostly in the strings, woodwinds, and sometimes with piano.
The soundtrack opens with the main theme played by a large section of strings, and close, again with the same theme, but this time performed only in a piano solo. Out of all 10 tracks, there's only one track 'Deadly Blade', which is an uneasy piece that deviates a bit of the general calm tone of the score.


Enjoy :)

Herr Salat
06-10-2012, 11:16 AM
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arthierr
06-10-2012, 05:35 PM
Thank you very much, Sal! Looking forward to this one! And question about your Mushiking upload: is it image or tracks? because I don't find it easy to deal with images, since they often get corrupted when I download them and so can't decompress properly.

And speaking of Oshima:



Michiru Oshima
Tenchijin OST Vol. 1





Download mirrors for Tenchijin_OST.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://mir.cr/IHUW7TSI)

Track List

01. Schema Of Heaven And Earth And Man - Opening
02. Heaven People Dream Journey
03. The Grace Of Self-Land
04. Consistent Force Righteousness
05. Adventurous
06. Full Of Kindness
07. Night Attack
08. True
09. Scent Of Love
10. Luck - Heaven
11. Mistery
12. Beautiful Lively
13. Chan-Man
14. Conspiracy And Heavy Daily
15. Road
16. Hot Tears
17. Kino Throught And People
18. Dream Trip To Heaven One - Short Version


To be perfectly honest with you, I didn't post this album out of sheer generosity only (like I usually do). Here, I also have a little underhand interest (nyark nyark!): I've only got OST 1 of this beautiful score, and I really would like to listen to the volume 2, so I'd be grateful if someone could post it here! Thank you in advance, dear benefactor!

About the music, well, what can you expect when Oshima goes historical epic? Come on, I'm asking you. You, over there, what's your answer? Exactly! A typically Oshima-esque score, very melodic, ultra professionally crafted, with a lot of variety (many themes and distinct pieces), and a great listen as a standalone album. Not your greatest Oshima, but some really good music nonetheless.

As usual, the keyword is: enjoy!

Herr Salat
06-10-2012, 05:56 PM
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Yen_
06-11-2012, 12:06 AM
The BBC will have a concert of film music at the Queen Elizabeth Hall, South Bank Centre, London, this evening (June 11), presented by English film critic and musician Mark Kermode. It should be a fascinating event and wish I had found out about it earlier to get tickets. It will be broadcast live on BBC Radio 3 from 7:30-10pm though. More info at BBC Radio 3 - Radio 3 Live in Concert, BBC Concert Orchestra - London on Film (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jqmv4).

I will attempt to record it off digital radio and share it here. My WinRAR 3.93 file archiver and data compression utility appears to be corrupted however (which is why I haven't posted any of my CDs recently). I found a newer version WinRAR 4.11 at Thank you for downloading WinRAR (32-bit) from CNET Download.com (http://download.cnet.com/WinRAR-32-bit/3001-2250_4-10007677.html), but it appears to be free only for 40 days. Does anyone know where I can find a completely free uncorrupted version please?

Firefly00
06-11-2012, 12:36 AM
John Carter of Mars (originally Edgar Rice Burroughs' novel, A Princess of Mars) predates Stargate by about 80 years, published in 1917. The issue is that a lot of people think John Carter copied many modern Scifi movies like Avatar, Stargate and Star Wars even, but in fact the Mars series was pretty much the genesis for the modern Science Fantasy story. This is a fact that was NOT capitalized on in advertising...
An unfortunate mistake on their part; much fun could have been had making that point. On the other hand, razzing the people putting forth that erroneous assumption for Not Doing Their Research and... well, we both know what they say about assuming.

Vinphonic
06-11-2012, 12:51 AM
Thanks, Herr Salat. Great news indeed.


Not your greatest Oshima

I respectfully disagree. I have listened to dozens of Oshima scores and the whole score of Tenchijin (all three volumes) is easily in my top 10 of her best works. The last volume has some truely great pieces, track 2 and track 22 are among the best things she has ever written in my opinion, so if you have not listened to it yet, be in for a real firecracker ;).

Attention: The complete score of Bastard!! in FLAC is soon on my harddrive, one of Tanaka's finest works will be up here in high quality... but wait!, that's not all, something else is coming this month... something BIG (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1KTYTHU5/Coming_soon.mp3_links).

Before I forget, I highly recommend to check out Niji-iro Hotaru ~eien no natsuyasumi~ (http://animeost.info/18376/niji-iro-hotaru-eien-no-natsuyasumi-original-soundtrack). Took me by surprise. A romantic orchestral score that would not be out of place for a Sergio Leone movie.

arthierr
06-11-2012, 01:21 AM
Yen: check your PMs. :)

klnerfan: great, great stuff to come indeed, my friend! And about Tenchijin, since you do have them, would you be willing to post the 2 missing OSTs so we can have them all in one place, please? That would be WONDERTASTIC. And since you praise the other volumes, I'd like to hear them EVEN more!

Vinphonic
06-11-2012, 01:37 AM
I could do that, the only problem is that I combined the three volumes already (I'm just a sucker for properly arranged orchestral scores) and even deleted some tracks! You see, the strange thing about these other volumes is that some tracks are an exact carbon copy of the tracks from the volume before. I guess it's nice for a standalone listen but when you have all three it just becomes repetitive and confusing. So the only thing I can offer is the "complete score". I'm not sure if that is everyone's cup of tea, for me at least it's the proper way to enjoy it.

arthierr
06-11-2012, 01:47 AM
I see we tend to do the same thing!

Not a problem for me. I trust your edit, and if you could offer a "custom abridged version", it's fine with me since I would have done the same thing anyway! Please do!

And since we're in an Oshima mood, I certainly have a few rare things hidden somewhere...

Sanico
06-11-2012, 03:23 AM
Speaking of Tenchijin, i asked some days ago in the Oshima discography thread, about volumes 2 & 3, and tango there said that he could be able to share them but not now, as he's busy doing decoration (that's lovely :) ), and for that reason he cannot access the computer.

klnerfan, i would suggest to put your upload on a hold. and wait until tango says something. What do you think?

Anyways i hope tango's doing fine. Decoration is a more difficult task than it seems, but i'm sure he's working hard to adorn the house with the most beautiful decorations and refined elegance, like the british do so well ;)

Sirusjr
06-11-2012, 03:54 AM
Why didn't you guys ask for this before? I have volumes 2 and 3 :) Will upload them later.

Doublehex
06-11-2012, 03:56 AM
Why didn't you guys ask for this before? I have volumes 2 and 3 :) Will upload them later.

You are a wonderful bastard and we all love you.

Sirusjr
06-11-2012, 04:40 AM
Tenchijin 2 & 3 - all in one file
Download (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362145922/MO-Tench23.rar.html)

Sanico
06-11-2012, 07:37 AM
Sirusjr thank you so much for posting Vol. 2 & 3!


If anyone need, here are the front covers of Tenchijin soundtracks:


Tenchijin OST



Tenchijin OST: Vol. 2



Tenchijin OST: Vol. 3

moviemusicsi
06-11-2012, 10:52 AM
The BBC will have a concert of film music at the Queen Elizabeth Hall, South Bank Centre, London, this evening (June 11), presented by English film critic and musician Mark Kermode. It should be a fascinating event and wish I had found out about it earlier to get tickets. It will be broadcast live on BBC Radio 3 from 7:30-10pm though. More info at BBC Radio 3 - Radio 3 Live in Concert, BBC Concert Orchestra - London on Film (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jqmv4).

I will attempt to record it off digital radio and share it here. My WinRAR 3.93 file archiver and data compression utility appears to be corrupted however (which is why I haven't posted any of my CDs recently). I found a newer version WinRAR 4.11 at Thank you for downloading WinRAR (32-bit) from CNET Download.com (http://download.cnet.com/WinRAR-32-bit/3001-2250_4-10007677.html), but it appears to be free only for 40 days. Does anyone know where I can find a completely free uncorrupted version please?


I would love to hear this !! hope you can record it !! thanks

Vinphonic
06-11-2012, 03:01 PM
Just found something hidden among the huge pile of data on my harddrive, no clue why it was not in my music folder.



Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/JVPIDXNI/Vandread.zip_links)

It's a short but very enjoyable SciFi score, although I can't shake of the feeling that I've heared it's themes somewhere else before.

Herr Salat
06-11-2012, 03:05 PM
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JBarron2005
06-11-2012, 04:48 PM
I just listened to Hitoshi Sakimoto's score to Vagrant Story and I am still amazed by "Staff Roll". I wish Sakimoto would write more music like that and also I wish Square-Enix would give him an orchestra tribute album like they did with Yoko Shimomura and Yasunori Mitsuda.

arthierr
06-11-2012, 06:24 PM
I just listened to Hitoshi Sakimoto's score to Vagrant Story and I am still amazed by "Staff Roll". I wish Sakimoto would write more music like that and also I wish Square-Enix would give him an orchestra tribute album like they did with Yoko Shimomura and Yasunori Mitsuda.

Yes, very nice piece, isn't it? Especially after 3:00, when the piece becomes cheerful, hopeful, and at 3:45, when it becomes a glorious march, it's possibly one of the best VG ending pieces I've heard.

For some reason, that last part reminds me a bit of Indiana Jones' Short Round's Theme, it has a similar feel, like it could describe a trip made by riding giant, ponderous beasts.


Vagrant Story - Original Soundtrack - 53 Staff Roll
Vagrant Story - Original Soundtrack - 53 Staff Roll - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bvb_neuxyk)

Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom Soundtrack-04 Short Round's Theme
Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom Soundtrack-04 Short Round's Theme - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NP6VlFXixjI#t=42s)


And thanks for the wonderful stuff posted, guys!

Sirusjr: so YOU are the benefactor I summoned? Greetings, o noble Hero.

Herr Salat
06-11-2012, 10:55 PM
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Sanico
06-12-2012, 02:42 AM
Has anyone succeeded in getting to download Tenchijin 2 and 3?

I've been trying to access since yesterday when it was posted, but every time i get goes on to say that "All download slots for this file are currently filled."

Sirusjr
06-12-2012, 04:05 AM
Naoki Syntho's Blood-C The Last Vampire: The Last Dark (https://www.tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=535589)...

Hehe...yeah...a bit synthy. Oh well. At least fans of real music can buy the new release from Kritzerland Records :)
Music from motion picture Soundtrack: "All in a Night's Work" with music by Andr� Previn (http://www.kritzerland.com/nightsWork.htm)
Such a lovely new Andre Previn release.

@ Sanico - that is typical but files dl so fast you should try in a few mins after you see it and hopefully get through.

JBarron2005
06-12-2012, 04:52 AM
It isn't music, but it is information regarding a new John Williams score... He talks about his recently completed score for Steven Spielberg's "Lincoln". When listening to this man talk, I am in awe that such an accomplished man is so modest and polite.

John Williams Interviewed at the 2012 BMI Film & TV Awards - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0sLuQPbkGVs)

NaotaM
06-12-2012, 06:00 AM
Has anyone succeeded in getting to download Tenchijin 2 and 3?

I've been trying to access since yesterday when it was posted, but every time i get goes on to say that "All download slots for this file are currently filled."

Hasn't been working for me at all, either, and I've been trying for days. Could we get a mediafire upload or something, please?

Doublehex
06-12-2012, 06:14 AM
Am I the only one who downloaded with no issues?

micobear
06-12-2012, 06:32 AM
Sorry Herr Salat for late response... i was away from my mac... anyway, here they are on sendspace:

Tenchijin vol.2: mp3@vbr (82mb)
Download Tenchijin2.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/jigl1k)

Tenchijin vol.3: mp3@vbr (107mb)
Download Tenchijin3.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/asr1kh)








Re: Mushiking. No CD image, arthierr. Just ripped tracks.

There's a third / "Final" OST for the Tenchijin show: Link (http://www.amazon.co.jp/NHK%E5%A4%A7%E6%B2%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E 3%80%8C%E5%A4%A9%E5%9C%B0%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8D%E3%82% AA%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B8%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BB%E3 %82%B5%E3%82%A6%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%88%E3%83%A 9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E5%AE%8C%E7%B5%90%E7%B7%A8-TV%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9/dp/B002MHA3T2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339347576&sr=8-2)

nikitos uploaded the second OST at the Film Score Hunt Thread. (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/film-score-vgm-hunt-thread-40522/1240.html#post1517495)

microbear uploaded the first and final OST at the M. Oshima Discography Thread. (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/michiru-oshima-discography-89760/#post1683654)

I just asked them if they could replace the defunct Megaupload links with new ones.

...Edit: Totally forgot Tango promised to re-upload the other Tenchijin scores at the Michiru Oshima Discography Thread!

SIRUSJR SAVES THE DAY! (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/399.html#post2014130)

tangotreats
06-12-2012, 10:30 AM
Just a quick one to say I'm still alive, sort of. Life is pretty grim right now - but ones soldiers on, because one has no choice.

So, take care folks - and those of you with partners, do your old friend tango and yourself a big favour... go give them a hug, tell them you love them. Cherish them, and cherish your time with them.

In the mean time, music can heal all things - so to that effect, here is some for you. I don't intend to tread on Yen's toes by uploading this; but I understand that he's having trouble getting uploads to work lately and also realise that his method of recording involves considerable effort... so I'm getting this in here quickly to hopefully save him some stress...


BBC Radio 3 - Live In Concert
BBC Concert Orchestra - London on Film



BBC Concert Orchestra Robert Ziegler (conductor)

http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362147658/Radio_3_Live_in_Concert_-_BBC_Concert_Orchestra_-_London_on_Film_b01jqmv4_default.m4a.html

My lossless rip of BBC iPlayer's 320kbps AAC stream. This is as good as you'll get without physically breaking into the BBC and stealing the master tapes. :D

Live from the Queen Elizabeth Hall, South Bank Centre, London

Presented by Mark Kermode

As London becomes the focus of the international sporting calendar, film expert Mark Kermode, conductor Robert Ziegler and the BBC Concert Orchestra look at the lasting legacy the capital has had on film. Ian Shaw sings music from Bond to Bacharach; Caroline Jaya Ratnam is the piano soloist in Bernard Herrmann's Hangover Square, and Cynthia Fleming plays solo violin in Howard Shore's score from Eastern Promises.

David Arnold: Bond - Casino Royale suite, main theme John Barry arr Ziegler: The Ipcress File Michael Nyman: The End of the Affair Bernard Hermann: Hangover Square - Concerto Macabre for piano and orchestra Stephen Sondheim: Johanna (from Sweeney Todd) Alexandre Desplat : The King's Speech

8.15pm Interval Composers, fixers, players, studio owners and engineers offer some insights into why big name international producers and composers choose to record their soundtracks in London.

PART 2 Hans Zimmer, arr Ziegler: Sherlock Holmes David Arnold/Nicholas Dodd: City of Lovers; You Know My Name (from Casino Royale) Howard Shore: Concertino for violin solo and chamber orchestra (Eastern Promises) Burt Bacharach: Alfie Pete Townshend arr Rachel Fuller: Love Reign O'er Me (from Quadrophenia)

arthierr
06-13-2012, 12:02 AM
Just a quick one to say I'm still alive, sort of. Life is pretty grim right now - but ones soldiers on, because one has no choice.

You know, one of the great ways to feel better in a sorry situation is to spend more time with your Band of Brothers. So hang around with us a little more, dude! It will actually boost your morale!

Now I don't know the facts, and your manly pride and decency certainly will prevent you from revealing them, but since you talk about soldiering on, I'd like to offer my humble help in the form of a great inspirational, motivational idea which really helps feeling better and striving effectively.



The Butterfly
A man found a butterfly cocoon and took it home so as to watch the butterfly emerge. One day he noticed a tiny little hole in the cocoon, so he sat down to watch for several hours. The man saw the butterfly striving to pass its body through the small hole in the cocoon, until there was a moment when it seemed to stop struggling. It seemed to be stuck.

The kind man decided to help the butterfly. With a small pair of scissors, he cut the hole in the cocoon to make it bigger. It was only then that the butterfly could finally emerge. However, on coming out, the butterfly had a swollen body and very small, folded wings. The man kept watching, expecting that any minute the wings would unfold and grow enough to support the body, but the butterfly could only creep in circles with its swollen body and folded wings.

What the man in his kindness and urgency did not understand was that the restriction of the tiny hole in the cocoon and the struggle of the butterfly forced the butterfly's bodily fluids toward its wings so they would grow big and strong, enabling it to fly. Depriving the butterfly of struggle meant depriving it of its health and freedom.

How many times have we wished to take the shortcuts to get rid of difficulties, grabbing those scissors and trimming the effort to be free! Sometimes struggling is what we need in life. If we were allowed to progress in life with no hindrances, we would become disabled. It is in the struggling that we become strong and ultimately earn our freedom.

-- author unknown
The Butterfly - Welcome to LightenUp.ca (http://lightenup.ca/the_butterfly.html)


And don't forget: never see the problem without also seeing the fruitful opportunities behind it. Because, even if you don't realize it at first glance, there ARE inevitably some, it's up to you to figure them out and seize them. It's part of the fun.


Now, about your post, great stuff, thanks a lot! The program is quite appetizing indeed!

tangotreats
06-13-2012, 01:11 AM
You are quite right, of course.

Out of respect for the involved parties, I'll keep the finer details to myself... but I will say that this weekend, my seven-year relationship with my fiancee (best friend, muse, and moral compass) came to a close - and I am now faced with the uncomfortable and frankly frightening prospect of untangling me from the gestalt entity that was the two of us. It's rather like taking a cake and attempting to extract from it a fully-intact egg. I don't feel like myself; and to a certain extent I'm not. But, I'll be OK.

As you say, life throws bad stuff at you, and you can't do anything about that - but you can choose what effect it has on you. I'll try to steer myself in the right direction - and of course I'll sincerely pray that she can do the same.

The story of the butterfly is particularly apt; we are certainly going down the most painful route... but also the route by which we will benefit the most in the long run, and by which we will both reach our greatest potential. It's a shame we couldn't do it together - but that's just the way it is.

Thank you, gentlemen, for all recent posts; they haven't gone unnoticed or unappreciated. As soon as I'm feeling a bit stronger emotionally I'll be back; I have a bag of splendid things to share and I'm planning another trip to Tokyo soon so I expect I'll run into some goodies there as well.

Onwards, and upwards, as they say. :)

El Cid
06-13-2012, 04:07 AM
Some emotionally charged music...it's Mark Camphouse's Elegy, recorded by the U.S. Marine Band. (14 minutes, flac)

Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362147875/elegy.zip.html)

Lens of Truth
06-13-2012, 09:11 PM
Hello all. I've had no luck in the requests section with this, so I was wondering if anyone of you could help out. The music for the new game Air Mail sounds absurdly good for something available on the app store: Air Mail iOS Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyH177ZELNQ)

Could it be Lennie Moore I wonder..? As I don't have either an iOS or Android device I can't rip it, but I've been checking out some of the developers previous titles and, sure enough, they also feature some surprisingly good orchestral tracks.

Here's a little something I put together from one of their WiiWare games. The music was very bitty in its ripped form, but I think this makes a nice little suite. Please don't be put off by the name and provenance! :)



Dino Strike Suite.flac (http://www.mediafire.com/?qa2127ge7ec0q0g)

JRL3001
06-14-2012, 07:26 AM
An unfortunate mistake on their part; much fun could have been had making that point. On the other hand, razzing the people putting forth that erroneous assumption for Not Doing Their Research and... well, we both know what they say about assuming.


Yeah they could have had a lot of fun with that and cleared up a lot of confusion.

Wasn't trying to razz on anyone, just was pointing out how Disney failed in advertising the movie. Sorry if it was taken that way

Sirusjr
06-14-2012, 03:48 PM
Yeah they could have had a lot of fun with that and cleared up a lot of confusion.

Wasn't trying to razz on anyone, just was pointing out how Disney failed in advertising the movie. Sorry if it was taken that way

Well that is because the gave the director control over the advertising. He thought the name of John Carter alone was going to be recognizable and sell the film. He didn't realize how much the general public has already been inundated with the parts of the John Carter story through other films and tv.

EDIT: In other news, Gamemp3s just released Symphonic Fantasies Tokyo (a re-recording of symphonic fantasies by the Tokyo Philharmonic) and it sounds very good :)

Yen_
06-14-2012, 11:52 PM
LONDON ON FILM - BBC CONCERT ORCHESTRA

Many thanks TT for your Internet copy in M4A, and for your consideration. I had already uploaded my version, so I might as well post it, particularly for people who prefer MP3. Mine is recorded from digital DAB radio in MP2-192 and converted to MP3-V0. Your version is higher quality, but for some reason mine is louder. Commiserations on your break-up; at least you have a love of music to console you!

http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362148806/LoF-BBC.zip.html[COLOR="Silver"]

Vinphonic
06-15-2012, 12:11 AM
Just droping by to share my CD-Rip of Bastard!! I'm sorry but no FLAC version anytime soon (damn you upload speed!) but at least it's high quality.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg199/scaled.php?server=199&filename=9f60729fd7a0bd026a55f01.jpg&res=landing

Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0LWLSMSA/__________.zip_links)

This includes everything from Vol.1 and Vol.3. I believe enough has been said about this one, simply one of Tanaka's best. A shame that the new Berserk movies do not have music of this quality, would have been more enjoyable with a japanese Conan score.


Inazuma Eleven GO TV Anime Nekketsu



Download (http://depositfiles.com/files/yhi6q3ed0) (credit goes to animeost.info)

One of the best substitutes for a Sahashi score you can get. I especially like Track 28, it's so damn fun to listen to. Trust the Japanese to compose a score full of adventure, heroic actions, epic battles and a struggle to the death ... for a soccer game!

ShadowSong
06-15-2012, 03:57 AM
Everyone should check out the soundtrack to the game Gravity Rush by Kohei Tanaka
Some really solid stuff there
Gravity Rush OST - Resistance and Extermination - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gfxf4x3L1bs#)!

Thagor
06-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Thanks for the latest uploads from you klnderfan :)

Sirusjr
06-15-2012, 09:29 PM
Everyone should check out the soundtrack to the game Gravity Rush by Kohei Tanaka
Some really solid stuff there
Gravity Rush OST - Resistance and Extermination - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gfxf4x3L1bs#)!

I thought it was gravity daze, but anyway it is already posted in this thread :) I am quite a fan of it myself.

arthierr
06-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Wasn't trying to razz on anyone, just was pointing out how Disney failed in advertising the movie. Sorry if it was taken that way.

It wasn't. ;)



Hello all. I've had no luck in the requests section with this, so I was wondering if anyone of you could help out. The music for the new game Air Mail sounds absurdly good for something available on the app store: Air Mail iOS Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyH177ZELNQ)

Could it be Lennie Moore I wonder..? As I don't have either an iOS or Android device I can't rip it, but I've been checking out some of the developers previous titles and, sure enough, they also feature some surprisingly good orchestral tracks

Here's a little something I put together from one of their WiiWare games. The music was very bitty in its ripped form, but I think this makes a nice little suite. Please don't be put off by the name and provenance!
You gotta be kidding me. This music just sounds too good for such products. I've seen a few Hollywood movies lately, and was utterly dismayed at their score. At times I could even barely describe it as "music", but rather "noisy, tiresome, meaningless sonic wallpaper". And here we have the kind of MUSIC I'd like to hear more, and it's so obscure that nobody even seems to know the composers' name!



Just droping by to share my CD-Rip of Bastard!!

Oh, this one is VERY welcome. Great post, klnerfan! Inazuma looks good too, especially if it has a Sahashi feel, as you suggest. Who's the composer for this one?



Some emotionally charged music...it's Mark Camphouse's Elegy, recorded by the U.S. Marine Band.
Very nice piece, thank you for posting it. Rather dissonant at times, but this makes the consonant, cheerful parts even more pleasant in counterpart! There's a lot of major / minor chords business going which gives this piece a mysterious and quite fascinating otherworldly feel. I didn't know this composer, but after this post I checked a few other of his pieces in Youtube.

Also, I noticed you posted this absolutely superb album, and I'd like to highly recommend it:


Thread 116025


Rozsa: Theme Variations & Finale / Hungarian Nocturne / Overture to a Symphony Concert
Miklos Rozsa (Composer), James Sedares (Conductor), New Zealand Symphony (Orchestra)

1. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Andante rubato
2. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Allegro scherzando
3. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Un poco meno allegro
4. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Moderato con gran espressione
5. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Vivo con spirito
6. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Andante quasi pastorale
7. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Allegro molto agitato e tumultuoso
8. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Moderato molto giusto
9. Theme, Varitiatons, And Finale, Opus 13A: Vivace
10. Hungarian Nocturne, Opus 28
11. Three Hungarian Sketches, Opus 14: Capriccio: Allegro capriccioso
12. Three Hungarian Sketches, Opus 14: Pastorale: Andante semplice e pastorale
13. Three Hungarian Sketches, Opus 14: Danza: Allegro giocoso
14. Overture To A Symphony Concert, Opus 26

"Theme, Variations, & Finale" is a knockout, and the nice warm sound rewards LOUD playing!

I'm interested in other Rozsa concert works in this series (and others) if you have them...

tangotreats
06-16-2012, 07:38 PM
Arthierr: Inazuma Eleven GO is by Shiho Terada. I posted her score for the Inazuma Eleven movie back in January - you can find it here on page 363. :) http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/363.html

The TV score is similar and there is some repetition; her orchestra is slightly smaller (36 against the movie's 39 - hardly a deal breaker) and the percussion is fake. BUT! What a great score! Definitely in the same vain as Sahashi - good, fun themes with a beat, memorable melodies, brassy as hell, and about half an hour of pure, unadulterated orchestra to go along with it. (God damn, that's a shitty synth choir... but I can almost forgive it because the music is so good.)

tangotreats
06-17-2012, 12:27 AM
How about some more music? I'd like to introduce you to a contemporary classical composer I think you'll really enjoy.


RODERICK ELMS
A Little Fall-Ish! (and other instrumental music)
The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
conducted by Stephen Bell
Roderick Elms (celesta, piano), Andrew Nicholson (flute), Martin Owen (horn), Suzanne Willison (harp), Alistair Young (celesta)
Victoria Walpole (cor anglais), Victoria Green (guitar), Stephen Quigley (vibraphone), Janice Graham (violin), Stuart Nicholson (organ)



My rip. No scans. (Sorry folks - scanner out of commission, buried at the bottom of a box as I am in the midst of decorating - STILL!!)

FLAC (various mirrors - Jumbofiles, Oron, Uptobox, Bayfiles, Filefactory, Hotfile) - http://go4up.com/dl/1jlBPmAsbpNY
FLAC (GameFront) - http://www.gamefront.com/files/21856331/RE-ALF.rar
MP3 (LAME 3.99.5 at -V0) - http://go4up.com/dl/1BuLyn470nDp

Oh, where to begin... Roderick Elms is fairly well known here in the UK courtesy of his numerous appearances on long running BBC Radio 2 show "Friday Night Is Music Night" - often as a soloist. Less well known are his compositions - and they're truly something to behold. Here is a contemporary composer who writes music that you can enjoy. Music with big, heart-on-sleeve melodies, elegance, beauty, and so much warmth. Music that makes classical music snobs nauseous. It's not action. It's not showy. It's not virtuosic. It's alive, tuneful, joyous music - just the sort of music to play when you're feeling down and you need something to remind you that life is wonderful.

Concertino for Celesta is simply a delight - a warm little miniature concerto for chamber orchestra and celesta, with a significant part for solo flute. So effortless, so earnest, so lovely. Four Seasonal Nocturnes are very English evocations of the seasons - another minature concerto, this time for horn and orchestra. Cygncopations is a two-part tone poem depicting a swan gliding gracefully over the water. Chiarore del Mare is a ravishing, romantic piece for violin and orchestra. Paean is a lively dance for organ and orchestra. Elegie is a piece for piano and orchestra, written as a response to the composer's father passing away - it begins with a noble but personal melody for the soloist (Elms himself, in this recording) which builds into a dignified tune. Gazelle is in the same vein but has a little more of the traditional romantic piano concerto style established by greats such as Rachmaninov. Il Cygnet is another gorgeous piece depicting a swan. Fandango Fantastico is a solo for guitar and organ; the strange combination of instruments dictated by Elms' intention to present the piece as a wedding gift to an organist and a guitarist - the couple themselves perform the work. Finally, Back To Bach is another mini-concerto - a three movement piece for piano and orchestra; a kind of "variations on a theme of Bach" that was inspired by Elms hearing a bad arrangement of Bach's 29th Cantata in a Chinese restaurant!

So, enough talk. Enjoy this one, folks. No showing off, no challenging harmonies, no crashing dissonances... just lyrical, emotional music that speaks to the heart. :)

streichorchester
06-17-2012, 07:27 AM
Hello all. I've had no luck in the requests section with this, so I was wondering if anyone of you could help out. The music for the new game Air Mail sounds absurdly good for something available on the app store: Air Mail iOS Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyH177ZELNQ)

Could it be Lennie Moore I wonder..? As I don't have either an iOS or Android device I can't rip it, but I've been checking out some of the developers previous titles and, sure enough, they also feature some surprisingly good orchestral tracks.
It sounds like it was modeled on William's score to Hook (the trailer music, to be exact) and it comes out really well. I've always said the best way to compose is to model your work on others but keep the themes original, so this does a great job accomplishing that.

tangotreats
06-17-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm getting a Frederic Talgorn feeling, myself. I'm also getting "LIBRARY MUSIC! LIBRARY MUSIC!" flashing before my eyes.

Edit: Ah, I'm good, I really am!

Sorry to report that this is not original score...

Frederic Talgorn - "Above The Clouds" from the DeWolfe library: http://www.mediafire.com/?geydyvz9ds111c4

Edit again: Woohoo! Top-of-the-page dance!

Lens of Truth
06-17-2012, 06:43 PM
I wonder if Dino Strike was library stuff too.. It did occur to me, but there were few synth tracks with a similar style.

Thank you for the lovely looking Elms disc. I've been browsing through some of these Dutton releases for a while, without knowing where to begin!

tangotreats
06-17-2012, 06:48 PM
I think you're really going to like my next batch of posts, then. ;)

I bought twenty-odd Duttons about a month ago - all obscure British composers, most of them living. All completely contrary to the modern concept of classical music.

I have also two brand new choral works coming up that will knock your socks off.

Sirusjr
06-17-2012, 08:33 PM
Ahhh Tango :D

You are the man! I would never have guessed such beautiful modern classical music existed if you hadn't posted it here. If you say you have more similar stuff then by all means - BRING IT ON!!

yepsa
06-18-2012, 02:21 AM
Frederic Talgorn - "Above The Clouds" from the DeWolfe library

We do love us some Talgorn now and then. Since Above the Clouds is a single track from a whole disc of Talgorn tunes, do you by any chance have the whole thing to share? Or any of the other Talgorn volumes he did for DeWolfe? Just askin' !

arthierr
06-18-2012, 09:13 PM
We do love us some Talgorn now and then. Since Above the Clouds is a single track from a whole disc of Talgorn tunes, do you by any chance have the whole thing to share? Or any of the other Talgorn volumes he did for DeWolfe? Just askin' !

+1, please! ;) I think it was already posted but I can't find it, so a repost would be welcome!

And A Little Fall-Ish! is an utter delight, thanks! Do they really compose this kind of Art music nowadays? I thought it was mostly lost, hence my interest in modern scores, where, when lucky, you can hear such beautiful music at times.

tangotreats
06-19-2012, 09:30 AM
We do love us some Talgorn now and then. Since Above the Clouds is a single track from a whole disc of Talgorn tunes, do you by any chance have the whole thing to share? Or any of the other Talgorn volumes he did for DeWolfe? Just askin' !

I have all of this CD. I have a few more (some by Talgorn, some not) in quality varying from total crap to fairly decent. ;)

I'll try to post something later on today.

Really glad people are enjoying the Elms. It was a lovely surprise for me. :)

Edit: Hiroshi Takaki's AKB0048 continues to impress; his small orchestra receives quite a workout in this week's episode, with some old-fashioned symphonic sci-fi scoring. Space Brothers (Toshiyuki Watanabe) is a TEASE! I beileve it's 50-episode show so the score is being spread very, very thin. The show has reached episode 11 and nobody has actually been to space yet. There have been a few hints of the robust music to come - mark my words, when the show gets going, Space Brothers will reveal itself as score of the year and perhaps even one of the finest sci-fi anime scores of all time. We're looking at a full-blooded 70s Hollywood score here; themes you can hang your hat on, grandeur, brassy action, THE WORKS. On top of that, the show itself is marvellous.

Herr Salat
06-20-2012, 10:15 PM
Tango, what are your thoughts on Takayuki Hattori's live action Space Brothers score (http://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/space-brothers-original-soundtrack/id515599416?l=en)?

tangotreats
06-21-2012, 01:00 AM
Overall, it didn't really do it for me. I was really hoping Hattori would revisit his Godzilla / Intelligent Qube style for Space Brothers, which he does but only for a few seconds... instead we get a load of terrible bouncy electronic tunes interspersed with about five minutes of orchestral themes... that really serve only one purpose, which is to underline how good the score could have been but wasn't. Even the big setpiece cue (20 - Kyodai Crater No Soko) comes across badly... I don't think Hattori has ever sounded quite so MV before. And then you get these little outbursts of pure magic (2:44 to 3:00) just to remind you how crummy the rest of it is. Highly disappointing.

I'm much, much happier with Watanabe's approach for the anime. Clearly there's more money around and Watanabe's approach is just pure timeless sci-fi; whereas Hattori has taken the movie in a rather leaner, more modern direction. Some may like it... I don't. :)

(That and Hattori's orchestra is the usual poxy little television ensemble in that dreadful Sound Inn studio [the bain of my life, as regular readers will know] whereas Watanabe has more players and a better recording. I'm a big fan of the crap tiny orchestra playing enormous music sound that so many television anime scores have pioneered... but in this case it's just another reason to dislike a fairly mediocre score.)

Lens of Truth
06-21-2012, 08:53 PM
The Film Music of
LEONARD ROSENMAN

John Adams conducting the London Sinfonietta



FLAC + scans
FMLR.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d77m6t5caawuciq)
FMLR.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?o2auah14vvbnc9n)

After pestering Sanico for the Takemitsu volume I forgot all about posting this! So, to complete the splendid Nonesuch film music series here are two lengthy suites from two of Rosenman’s finest and most iconic scores.

The lush fields of Salinas Valley ‘Salad Bowl’ are the setting for East of Eden’s tale of soured innocence and familial jealousy. A beautiful pastoral theme, one of Rosenman’s most disarming, likewise provides both a backdrop and a magnifying lens to the characters' strife. The darkness in the score mostly remains latent and Rosenman’s musical language wistful and lyrical. Cal, played by James Dean, has a theme of his own, a sort of ambiguous answer to the main theme that appears in troubled, fragmentary form in the very opening bars. It’s deconstructed further in the second track only to be put back together for a full treatment in ‘Cal and Sam’. This latter cue could almost be movement from a Vaughan Williams symphony it’s that good.

Rebel Without a Cause is the quintessential film about generational conflict. No one emerges blameless and Rosenman characterises the proceedings with a much more complex, tightly wound structure. There are brief appearances from a languorous jazzy love theme, including in the Main Title, but the standout tracks are the exciting ‘action ballets’. Knife Fight and The Hunt are surely two of the most brilliant examples of the (now forgotten) application of ‘modernist’ music to film; how it can lift and layer a scene, and what a thrilling listen it can be in stand-alone recording such as this.

Enjoy!

Herr Salat
06-21-2012, 11:13 PM
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