THE BIG ORCHESTRAL ACTION MUSIC THREAD! [Archive] - Page 41

arthierr

06-23-2012, 10:15 PM

Wow, I have to check these new posts ASAP. Some truly appealing stuff. Thanks, guys!

About Ruin Explorers, I didn't even know such anime existed, but all I can conclude is:

Fantasy Anime + Amano + Symphonique in the title =
YAY!!!

klnerfan: some new Tanaka, and heaps of it? Wonderful! I've got one or two albums of this series, and there's indeed some excellent material in these, as one can expect from this superb composer. Looking forward to see the other albums!

Also, I intended to post something lately but I don't have access to the HDDs where the stuff is stored for the moment, so a little later then. Anyway, I'd like to do another recommendation, again something posted by our friend El Cid, who obviously has a bunch of precious gems in his pockets. Thanks for the new wind pieces, too!

I love this one. I had it a few years ago in mp3, but then I lost it, and here it is again in flac! This is typically your big fantasy score from the eighties. Bold, rich, complex, brilliant, purely symphonic, highly melodic, proudly thematic, a little kitsch at times (but who cares?), and 20 times better than the lame movies they come along. In fact, it's probably because the movies were so clumsy that they needed such superlative orchestral scores, so they can eventually get the extra grandeur and lushness the poor budget didn't allow for the visuals. Funnily enough, it's often the opposite nowadays: some visually astonishing blockbusters get some really terrible, terrible scores, as if the producers wanted the music to be bland and transparent (= trashy) so the visuals can dominate. Revise your artistic tastes, guys.

Robert Folk
Beastmaster 2 (FLAC)

Thread 117446
Thanks to El Cid!

01 - Main Title
02 - Dar The Hero
03 - Creature's Story
04 - Through The Portal
05 - Jackie Alone On Desert
06 - Swamp Creature Attacks
07 - Travel Montage
08 - Mind Suck
09 - Police Escape
10 - Jackie Gets Some Sleep
11 - I.D. Badges
12 - Get Arklon
13 - The Great Escape
14 - Sharawk Leads The Way
15 - Neutron Detonator
16 - Key To The Heart

chickenlittle43

06-24-2012, 07:02 AM

This is called Varations on a Sacred Theme. It is by Mormon Lex De Azevedo. He was one of my childhood favorites growing up. Not sure if anyone is familar with him. He composed the music for the Swan Princess, which some people are a little familiar with. This is a little different, but it does have some beautiful moments in it.

Link:http://www.mediafire.com/?wkm4nwdzam86od2

JRL3001

06-24-2012, 09:34 AM

AWESWEET Herr Salat! I have been looking for the music to Ruin Explorers for ages. I really like this series, its very short (3 episodes if I remember correct), but very fun! Thanks so much man! :D

this totally made my night man! gonna pop on my dvd of the series before I pass out tonight now lol

Octavi

06-24-2012, 10:27 AM

Hello Everybody!

I'm a little uploader, but recently I lost all my music (500Gb). So I'm downloading and uploading again all. I want to share with you this compilation about Tati Films.

Thanks for all the shares and enjoy, I love this site!!

Composers: Jean Yatove (D�a de Fiesta), Alain Romans (Las Vacaciones de Monsieur Hulot), Alain Romans y Frank Barcellini (Mi T�o), Francis Lemarque (Playtime)
Format: MP3 a 320 kbps / 44,100kHz
Size: 98,2 Mb (Comprimido)

CONTENT:

1- G�n�rique Musique (Jours de F�te)
2- Ballade du facteur (Jours de F�te)
3- Installation f�te au village (Jours de F�te)
4- Hulot � v�lo/gu�pe, poteau (Jours de F�te)
5- Ambiances f�te (Jours de F�te)
6- G�n�rique fin musique (Jours de F�te)
7- G�n�rique (Mon oncle)
8- Th�me jazz (Mon oncle)
9- Th�me principal (Mon oncle)
10- Divers dialogues (Mon oncle)
11- G�n�rique fin musique (Mon oncle)
12- G�n�rique d�but musique (Les vacances de monsieur Hulot)
13- D�part vacances gare (Les vacances de monsieur Hulot)
14- Th�me musical (Les vacances de monsieur Hulot)
15- Ambiance restaurant et musique (Les vacances de monsieur Hulot)
16- Tennis/Th�me piano (Les vacances de monsieur Hulot)
17- Ambiances retour vacances/Musique (Les vacances de monsieur Hulot)
18- G�n�re musique (Playtime)
19- Ambiance A�roport (Playtime)
20- S�quence jazz et cabaret (Playtime)
21- G�n�re fin (Playtime)

Duration: 00:40:45

Link:

Thread 117477

stingray2501

06-24-2012, 01:39 PM

NaotaM

06-24-2012, 04:25 PM

Hey, arthierr, do you still know the name or have the link to that video-to-mp3 conversion process you mentioned once awhile ago? The site I use is about to go kaput, it seems. If you could please point it my way, I'd really appreciate it.

Herr Salat

06-24-2012, 04:51 PM

This one (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/361.html#post1895877), NaotaM?

NaotaM

06-24-2012, 05:26 PM

This one (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/361.html#post1895877), NaotaM?

That's the one! Many thanks.

tangotreats

06-24-2012, 06:04 PM

Just a warning... Google is going after all those sites now - lawsuits aplenty. Enjoy them while you can...

Herr Salat

06-25-2012, 02:25 PM

Isaias Caetano

06-25-2012, 05:46 PM

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/jos-siqueira-xang-cantata-negra-117520/#post2025551

---------- Post added at 01:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:44 PM ----------

Vinphonic

06-25-2012, 07:03 PM

Sakura Wars: Part I

So here we go, starting with the orchestral collection for the first game and the OST for the first OVA.

Sakura Wars

Download (mp3 V0) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1MJ4M4CW/Sakura_Wars.zip_links)

Sakura Wars: OVA ~Ouka Kenran~

Download (mp3 V0) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0FSRPDHD/Sakura_Wars_-_OVA.zip_links)

The first game introduces the glorious opening theme and another major theme for the first six scores (Gravity Daze fans will love this one). Basically all of the other important themes are introduced with the OVA score (they are arranged to a beautiful orchestral suite at the end). A perfect place to start if you are not familiar with the music of Sakura Wars. I will do the others chronologically, so next is the orchestral collection for the second game and the TV OST.

NaotaM

06-25-2012, 08:12 PM

So, a couple of my favorite composers are scoring what looks like utter tripe this season. Masashi Hamuzu's first anime gig is something called Binbogami ga, and Hikaru Nanase, in addition to Hiro no Kakera, is tackling My Little Sister is Among Them.

They're both exactly what they sound like.
Anime Spotlight: Binbogami ga! - Anime News Network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anime-spotlight/2012/summer/binbogamiga)

Anime Spotlight: NAKAIMO ~My little sister is among them!~ - Anime News Network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anime-spotlight/2012/summer/nakaimo)

(Well, maybe Binbo could be really funny, who can say? I'm terribly interested in seeing how Hamauzu applies his impressionist piano melodies to...that.)

tangotreats

06-25-2012, 11:43 PM

Thank you all for recent posts always.

I have some coming up; one NaotaM will hate, one that will bring a big smile to Arthierr's face, and one that will have Herr Salat foaming at the mouth. Stay tuned. ;)

Herr Salat

06-26-2012, 11:44 AM

Isaias Caetano

06-26-2012, 04:18 PM

Obrigado Herr Salat

tangotreats

06-26-2012, 05:17 PM

HAHAHA! Track 25 is the end credits from the first episode of Giant Robo. As in, the exact same piece of music, the exact same recording. What the hell is that doing there?

Many MANY thanks for posting this, though. It may be the first Amano that I'm just not warming to, however... it's still wonderful to have and we're indebted to you for taking a risk and getting hold of the CD. I haven't ordered the DVD, yet - shall I forget about that one...? ;)

Incidentally, Sound Inn is a recording studio, not an orchestra - a hideous, boxy sound stage in Tokyo that can accommodate barely 40-45 players and that's if you pack them in like sardines. The acoustic is horrible, the recording equipment is plainly inadequate, and the engineers are utterly useless. I've actually been there. Well, I went past it on a train, made sure nobody was watching, and then gave it the rigid digit... ;)

I can guarantee you that pretty much any Japanese score you here that's been done on the cheap and sounds like hell... will have passed through that studio at some stage in its life.

tangotreats

06-26-2012, 11:33 PM

OK, here we go - first of all, here's the upload that will bring a smile to Arthierr's face - and, I hope, everybody's face...

TOKUMEI SENTAI GO-BUSTERS - Soundmission 1
Composed by Megumi Ohashi

GameFront: MO-TSG-OST1.rar | Game Front (http://www.gamefront.com/files/21905725/MO-TSG-OST1.rar)
MediaFire: MO-TSG-OST1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?v358zun3bo3ux1i)

Not my rip. MP3 @ 320kbps. All the credit in the world to Toku Fans for this rip.

Another year, another show about lycra-clad superheroes chasing rubber monsters around a city made of cardboard. Let's not set our expectations too high as regards the score, eh? Aha, but wait - this is Super Sentai, where musical miracles happen almost every year. Toshihiko Sahashi's up-and-coming young protege Megumi Ohashi got the gig for this year's show - this will be her second solo Sentai score, (her first being 2008's Engine Sentai Go-Onger.)

Since 2011's show was scored by none other than Kousuke Yamashita (in absolutely top form) Ohashi's job was never going to be easy... but she has nevertheless acquitted herself very well indeed. This is no Yamashita score, but it is an excellent score firmly adhering to the Super Sentai "house style" and at the same time building on Ohashi's maturing orchestral technique. Ohashi seems to wear her teacher's influences proudly - so in the end we have a score that is ostensibly very Sahashi-esque - melody driven, heroic, and larger than life. A fine counterpart to Go-Onger.

Like any self-respecting Japanese moneygrabbing franchise, Sentai scores are released slowly in pieces, over the year in which the show runs. Traditionally, the first disc appears near the end of May, followed by a second in June-July (just songs - no score), a third in September containing more television score and the main theatrical movie score, and finally a double-disc set just before Christmas with the really good stuff.

Here is disc 1 - styled as "Soundmission 1". I have removed the "Go-busters Talk" drama tracks which are a waste of space if you don't speak Japanese, and even if you do, they're pretty crummy.

There's about 45 minutes of score on this disc - 15 minutes of pure orchestra, about 20 minutes of orchestra/electronic/percussion [the sort Arthierr loves so much ;)] and various other stuff.

All incredibly good fun.

Enjoy :)
TT

---------- Post added at 11:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:05 PM ----------

And now, one for Herr Salat - and again, for all of you. A Masamichi Amano rarity... :D

Masamichi Amano
Mushiking - Super Battle Movie (2007) - Symphonic Suite
The Angel City Studio Orchestra
conducted by Masamichi Amano

1. First Movement - Prologue
2. Second Movement - Mushiking
3. Third Movement - Fight With Determination
4. Fourth Movement - King Of The Forest
5. Fifth Movement - Interlude - Sujiboto's Theme
6. Sixth Movement - The Voice Of The Woods
7. Seventh Movement - Friends Of The Forest
8. Eighth Movement - Finale

Very much my rip - EAC + FLAC Level 8. Original soundtrack fully tagged in Romaji. Symphonic Suite tagged in English. Booklet scans in both.

ORIGINAL UNTOUCHED SOUNDTRACK ALBUM (30 tracks) - YOU DON'T WANT THIS
Jumbofiles: http://jumbofiles.com/d5583ahkawqf
MediaFire: http://www.mediafire.com/?u4v44d8q5bfco94

SYMPHONIC SUITE (8 tracks) - GET THIS ONE!
Jumbofiles: JumboFiles.com - Dedicated Hosting (http://jumbofiles.com/3kbcnwmvnfxc)
MediaFire: http://www.mediafire.com/?yuxspp0z5sgkl63

Since we are in the company of a splendid gentleman, and fellow Masamichi Amano afficianado (Mr Salad) it seemed like a good time to revisit this old post... which I always thought didn't quite get noticed as much as it should have.

The man who stirred up such a magnificent storm in Giant Robo is back once again, in this outstanding score for 2007's Mushiking Super Battle Movie. This one was recorded with a 66 piece orchestra in Los Angeles, at the famous Eastwood Scoring Stage - certainly no expense spared... and it was surely a fabulous (and rare) opportunity for the long-suffering Hollywood session musicians to take a break from dreck like Iron Man and Transformers and play some real music for a change. I have no idea why they went to LA to record this - they could just have easily done it with the Warsaw Philharmonic as Amano usually does (and got considerably better value for money) - but at the same time I'm certainly not complaining.

This is a lovely, old-fashioned rollicking orchestral score like they just don't write any more (except in Japan) with heroic brass, soaring strings, thundering percussion, and Amano's typically choppy rhythms and triumphant melodies all present and correct.

You get the album two ways. First, you get it as it was sold. Please read on to learn why you shouldn't download it. You also get it in an eight-movement symphonic suite presentation, in keeping with Amano's tendency to extrapolate his scores into concert-hall works.

A little note about the presentation: This album as sold may be one of the most poorly presented of all time. Thirty-two minutes of score split over THIRTY tracks - seventeen of which clock in at under a minute. Certainly not a recipe for a coherent listening experience - indeed, I just couldn't get into this score listening to it like that. Most album producers pay some attention to the need for the music to function away from the film, and therefore work shorter cues into longer, more satisfying tracks that play well on disc; but not here!

So - along came me, doing the job that the album producers really should've done: Whittle the thirty tracks down to eight satisfying and coherent movements that really allow the score's internal structure and quality to shine.

To figure all this out, I listened to the album about a dozen times over two days and made a concerned effort to memorise as much of it as I could - enabling me to group together tracks that are actually musically and thematically connected. (In stark contrast to the typical "Oh look I made a symphony!" technique of randomly shoving together a bunch of tracks without gaps.)

The funny thing is, most of the tracks almost seemed like they were made to be heard this way - a theme in track three would be cut short, but it would continue to develop in track twenty five, and would receive a satisfying conclusion in track 12. Repeated listening really helped me fit together the jigsaw puzzle and weave together a splendid, extended piece.

(And, as a source of further fascination and I believe confirmation that I was basically correct in my decisions... Amano's own "Symphonic Suite" follows a very similar structure to mine and frequently replicates my transitions!)

My eight movements incorporate pretty much every note of score on the original album. A handful of cues didn't make the cut - because they were too short to be musically coherent, or because they duplicated thematic material found in longer cues. The symphony runs to 31:33 against the album's score tracks which run to 33:40. Of that, only 33 seconds is equivalent to actual loss of music. The remaining time is accounted for by the loss of gaps between tracks - two seconds at the start and end of every track adds up!

Missing Tracks:

11. (8 seconds - four woodwind notes.)
12. (12 seconds - linking passage for strings.)
16. (13 seconds - shortened variation on track 6.)

Finally, about the titles. My first release of the symphonic suite in 2009 had no titles at all. This always annoyed me. I have therefore given each movement a loose name inspired by Amano's own cue titles, just to give some vague sense of narrative to the piece.

Enjoy. This is the last substantial, original composition Amano has recorded for almost six years. (Aside from Saint Seiya, which we *may* hear one of these days... stranger things have happened.)

Of course, he's working occasionally as an orchestrator (for Shiro Sagisu on Bleach, Evangelion, and Berserk - I don't want to live on this planet any more) and for the occasional decent project... but it wouldn't half be nice if he could actually write some music from time to time...

This damn thing cost me �40, so you'd better bloody well do...

Sirusjr

06-27-2012, 02:06 AM

Thanks for this new Sentai score Tango. I do have to say though, I wish you would have tagged the files better after cutting out the useless tracks. For the anal, make sure you tag it yourself because it has no album artist and genre is tagged as other.

Ahh! Now this is what I am talking about Tango!

tangotreats

06-27-2012, 09:58 AM

Post your mailing address, and I'll forward you a pint of blood and a kidney. :P

Seriously, though - I forgot. I was rushing somewhat. It's a straight re-up of the Tokufans post, minus the crap. Those are their tags, not mine. I didn't really think about it. Shame on me. Will do better next time. ;)

Sirusjr

06-27-2012, 06:25 PM

To show you I only have the best of intentions - here is a re-upload of the above TOKUMEI SENTAI GO-BUSTERS - Soundmission 1
Composed by Megumi Ohashi that I have re-tagged.
Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362855344/MO-TSGB.rar.html)

BTW, speaking of Megumi Ohashi, if anyone could upload Blue Dragon Anime OST 2 and 3, I would appreciate it. I got the first one but never got the other 2.

Isaias Caetano

06-27-2012, 10:36 PM

Symphonic Suite by Masamichi Amano

Obrigado

arthierr

06-27-2012, 11:02 PM

Thanks all for the latest goodies, guys!

I took a special moment to listen to Gobusters (a new Super Sentai score is an event to be welcomed appropriately, for it can have some real potential), and there is indeed some nice material in there, firmly rooted in the tradition of this series; no surprise here, only some familiar Sentai goodness we know and love.

Of course it's not quite the virtuosic level of a Sahashi or a Yamashita (they're in a league very few can enter), but it has all it needs to have, in particular this strong melodic character and this sense of unreserved heroic boldness which makes the scores of this series so listenable and appreciable in themselves.

As usual with these scores, there's some trimming down to do in order to gather the orchestral gist (I know what I'll have to do this weekend!), and once done I bet the result will be once again an utterly enjoyable musical pastry to stuff oneself with!

Thank you very much for this good surprise, Tango! :)

tangotreats

06-28-2012, 09:07 PM

Super Atragon (Shin Katei Gunkan)
The Warsaw Philharmonic National Orchestra of Poland
The Versailles Orchestra
Composed, orchestrated, and conducted by Masamichi Amano

1. 1945, Day of Destiny
2. Theme of the Hyuga Family
3. Theme of the Undersea Battleship (Main Title)
4. Departure for the South Pole
5. Giant Column Indra
6. Menace of the Gravity Lenses
7. Theme of the un Forces
8. Fortress Bimarna, Spotted
9. Theme of Eternal Love to the Ends of the Deep Blue Sea (Theme of ...)
10. Mystery of the Giant Meteorite
11. Battle in the Sky
12. Return of the Ra
13. Truth of 1945
14. Go and Annette
15. Deepening Love
16. Triangle Battle
17. Launch of the Water Dragon
18. Attack of the Super Vibration Wave
19. Decisive Battle When the Pacific Ocean Was Dyed Red (Ra vs. Liberty)
20. Launch into the Unknown (Ending)

MY RIP, my scans, my CD! FLAC at Level 8. LOGs and all that crap that people love so much included. Full booklet scans included. Tagged in English.

Jumbofiles: JumboFiles.com - Dedicated Hosting (http://jumbofiles.com/zsgwcpfwfbjf)
Gamefront: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21914951/MA-SA-SKG-FLAC.rar
Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?x63vpbe6k3a92dv (Part 1)
Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?vww3hunbuhegrvk (Part 2)
Peeje: http://www.peejeshare.com/files/362935769/MA-SA-SKG-FLAC.rar.html

Oh, looky here - another repost. Well, this one just deserves it. Bless Herr Salat for his recent Masamichi Amano efforts - his enthusiasm for Amano has reawakened my own.

So, what's this one about then? Well, Super Atragon is m y very favourite Amano score - I place it above Giant Robo, The Aurora, Sin - the whole lot. And truly, in Super Atragon, you get the best of Amano - his greatest strengths all come together in the most wonderful way.

Strong, memorable melodies, check. Full-bodied furious action music, check. Brassy glory, check. Mystery, check. Suspense, check. Sweeping romance, check. Incredible use of choir (none of your ah-ah-ah oooh ah ah ah rubbish here!), check.

And you get not one, but two beautiful, three minute end credits pieces - not edited together from score cues, but actually written for purpose; summing up the score, and reprising important melodies. The first (Theme Of Eternal Love / To The Ends Of The Deep Blue Dea) is a glorious sea-faring piece - taking a beautiful melody all the way through the orchestra, topping out in one of those trademark Amano key-changes (you know the ones I mean) and an awe-inspiring climactic statement of the theme for the full ensemble. The second again evokes the sea (very Vaughan-Williams!) in a reprise of the Main Titles - a strident theme for brass and militaristic snares.

The score itself, it's just fantastic. Amano has been known to play the "filler music" game on more than one occasion, and of course we know that he has no qualms about recycling entire cues twice, thrice, or more... but this one is just pure inspiration from start to finish - it's all original, and contains some very unique music quite unlike anything else Amano has ever written. And it's 74 minutes long.

Note: The original Japanese CD released in 1997 is rather difficult to come by these days - like most of Amano's scores. This rip is from the 2003 short-lived American repressing, released by ADV Music - which is also impossible to find, but nevertheless I found it. ;)

The contents and sound quality are identical.

NaotaM

06-28-2012, 10:46 PM

I say, there's been nothing remotely hateable about any of these. I am disappoint.

tangotreats

06-28-2012, 11:18 PM

I thought you'd be grinding your teeth at the Mushiking "suite". ;)

NaotaM

06-28-2012, 11:38 PM

I thought you'd be grinding your teeth at the Mushiking "suite". ;)

Au contraire, it was lovely stuff, especially considering how fractured the original release was. Many thanks.

Herr Salat

06-28-2012, 11:47 PM

reef1

06-29-2012, 12:33 AM

SWEET!!!

Vinphonic

06-29-2012, 12:27 PM

Sakura Wars: Part II

So here is the orchestral collection of the second game as well as the television score.

Sakura Wars 2

Download (mp3 V0) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/20BEQBVM/Sakura_Wars_2.zip_links)

Sakura Wars: The Animation

Download (mp3 V0) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0PW6Y3NB/Sakura_Wars_-_The_Animation.zip_links)

The music for the second game is a solid continuation of the first two scores and Tanaka introduces many fantastic vocal arrangments, all orchestral and operatic and even the original 'Miracle Bells' can be found here. The score for the animation is in more ways than one a "bgm collection". It contains full orchestral versions of most of the important synth tracks from the first two games and is in itself already an orchestral collection. Nonetheless, the music is easily on the same level as One Piece, it simply brings a smile to your face.

In the next part, the music will make a departure from the familiar themes we love and get even closer to the style of Gravity Daze as the next game focusses on new characters and a new location ... Paris. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Many many thanks for Mushiking and the new Sentai. I love it. Speaking of Sahashi: Saint Seiya Ω Original Soundtrack, Aug 22. Thank God, I feared for the worst (Tanaka's Hyouka anyone?).

arthierr

06-30-2012, 12:19 AM

Thanks for these new Sakura scores, klnerfan! You can't get enough of some good Tanaka.

After a few weeks of absence, you're really back in superb shape, bringing with you a whole lot of wonderful scores. Would you be like those martial arts monks who retire in a mountain to train alone, thoroughly practicing their moves, sharpening their skills, studying their art, and when they eventually come back to the world, they're like invincible �ber humans capable of great deeds? ;)

tangotreats

06-30-2012, 12:23 AM

Second that; thank you so much for these, klnerfan! I've been searching for ages and I can find the 8-disc song collection but never the scores. Tanaka never seems to be far away from top form, but here he's certainly right there.

I think this thread is going through another mini-golden age. Long may it continue. :)

arthierr

06-30-2012, 12:30 AM

Yep, it's pretty hard to get these. I don't even know where klnerfan found them, but we're all lucky that he's got the generosity to share them!

Sirusjr

06-30-2012, 12:53 AM

Many thanks for these shares of Sakura Wars. It is really a shame when the songs are easily available but the score disappears into oblivion. I wanted to also point out that the newest Kritzerland release is now close to selling out, and it features a double bill of Leigh Harline scores!

Music from motion picture Soundtracks: "The Wayward Bus" and "The Enemy Below" with music by Leigh Harline (http://www.kritzerland.com/wayward_enemy.htm)
One of them, The Enemy Below, is a re-print of a long out of print Intrada score and the other one is a premier release. Quite lovely from the samples.

Also, new Hitoshi Sakimoto game soundtrack has been posted, courtesy of our good friend Qqqqqqwe. I haven't gotten to listen to it yet but you can grab it:
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/crimson-shroud-ost-physical-rip-mediafire-117618/#post2029027

chickenlittle43

07-01-2012, 10:57 PM

I wanted to ask was anybody familiar with or had any info on the Sakura Wars: Drama CD Complete 20 disc set as far all of it contents?

Herr Salat

07-02-2012, 04:44 AM

chickenlittle43

07-02-2012, 04:59 AM

Thanks Herr Salat for the info. :) That was the set I was referring to. I saw a couple of those 20 discs set for sale on Amazon for about 300 something bucks. I was considering on purchasing the set, but I wasn't really sure if I would really want to pay that amount of money for it lol.

Vinphonic

07-02-2012, 10:45 AM

After a few weeks of absence, you're really back in superb shape, bringing with you a whole lot of wonderful scores. Would you be like those martial arts monks who retire in a mountain to train alone, thoroughly practicing their moves, sharpening their skills, studying their art, and when they eventually come back to the world, they're like invincible �ber humans capable of great deeds? ;)

Well, I did make a journey of sorts. After weeks of stress I'm finally back to my usual tranquil self that takes life easy. When it comes to music, I'm always studying and sharping my skills. Over the last months I found new love for scores I hated the first time I listened to them and completeley restructured my music folder. Unfortunatly, no training montage this time ;)

I wanted to ask was anybody familiar with or had any info on the Sakura Wars: Drama CD Complete 20 disc set as far all of it contents?

Though I do not have the complete 20 disc drama set, I have something in store for all of you who don't want to listen to dozens of hours of songs just to find something worthwhile. It's part of my Sakura uploads and will be up soon.

hater

07-02-2012, 12:27 PM

LalaLand makes my life wothwile...
On JUuy 19th Batman Animated Vol.2 with almost 5 hours of addtional greatness
And my biggest personal Holy Grail...i tried to get it for over 10 years in the complete version and finally it comes...
THE PHANTOM COMPLETE
One of the greatest Adventure/Superhero Classic Scores of all time, now with almost half an hour more action and romance.

Herr Salat

07-02-2012, 04:12 PM

MASAMICHI AMANO
Morceau par 10e. Suite Symphonique
"BATTLE ROYALE II"
The JASDF Western Air Band & Heisei College of Music Chorus
conducted by the composer

Release Date: 16.07.2007
Publisher: Cafua (http://www.cafua.com/products/detail193.html)
Catalog Number: CACG-0103

FLAC + LOG + SCANS | 15 Tracks | 01:00:11 | 342 MB

01.-05. Morceau par 5�me Suite Symphonique "Ninja Resurrection" | 27:49

06.-15. Morceau par 10e. Suite Symphonique "Battle Royale 2" | 32:22

Album Information (VGMdb) (http://vgmdb.net/album/44489)

Warning; here be dragons. If Amano's notorious musical kleptomania offends you in any way, don't even bother with these; the thievery really is in overdrive. Quality remains high, as one would expect, but originality is at an all time low. Amano lifts whole cues from his previous scores, and even helps himself to a number of other cues from Western films - the most notable of course is Klendathu Drop (from Basil Poledouris' Starship Troopers) appearing almost verbatim (all four minutes of it) as "The Time To Attack". Amano was, by all accounts, in a race against time in scoring these two films - so I suppose you could justify it by saying he did what he needed to do, in order to get the job done. And these are exceptionally good scores, make no mistake.

That musical plagiarism is still intact in this wind orchestra arrangement. The fact there are scores (http://sg.yamaha.com/en/services/scores_for_rent/masamichi_amano/7e_br/) available without crediting Poledouris is depressing. Also, fellow forum user El Cid mentioned some parts of Ninja Resurrection are very Conan-like.

FLAC - https://mega.co.nz/#!SQ5FWa4Z!Oe2y2frBsrHmbU-6VzALtNlOh9y71bSIElJpm3EbgK8

tangotreats

07-02-2012, 04:33 PM

I got done by the same thing. Duped into joining filesmates.com in order to get a DVD rip of the recent Final Fantasy Vana'Con concert.
Queued up 8gb download. Came back twenty four hours later, realised all files were the same.
Played file - it's a four minute video of somebody zooming in and out on a packet of cigarettes with a shaky camcorder.
Absolute bastards. :/

Edit: Just looked at jcd4share.com - it looks identical to the site that screwed me over. I can't remember what it was called - but it's the exact same design, exact same everything. Obviously the same guy.

Edit again: http://www.torrent48.com/ was the site that ripped me off. Don't bother with that one either. Same old bullshit.

More cheerfully, I have BR 1 and 2 in FLAC. Perhaps a post this evening...

Thank you so much for the further Amano! Can't wait to hear these. :)

tangotreats

07-02-2012, 10:45 PM

MASAMICHI AMANO
BATTLE ROYALE (2000)
BATTLE ROYALE 2 (2003)
The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra

Warning; here be dragons. If Amano's notorious musical kleptomania offends you in any way, don't even bother with these; the thievery really is in overdrive. Quality remains high, as one would expect, but originality is at an all time low. Amano lifts whole cues from his previous scores, and even helps himself to a number of other cues from Western films - the most notable of course is Klendathu Drop (from Basil Poledouris' Starship Troopers) appearing almost verbatim (all four minutes of it) as "The Time To Attack". Amano was, by all accounts, in a race against time in scoring these two films - so I suppose you could justify it by saying he did what he needed to do, in order to get the job done. And these are exceptionally good scores, make no mistake.

Warnings aside, here are two powerhouse live action Amano scores full of all the big-orchestra theatrics we all know and love.

Neither are my rips, but sources are trustworthy.

Jumbofiles: Battle Royale: JumboFiles.com - Dedicated Hosting (http://jumbofiles.com/r97tj67t99lq) / Battle Royale 2: JumboFiles.com - Dedicated Hosting (http://jumbofiles.com/3h43u5e023to)
Gamefront: Battle Royale: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21933855/MA-BR-FLAC.rar / Battle Royale 2: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21933853/MA-BR2-FLAC.rar
Other mirrors to follow. :)

streichorchester

07-03-2012, 12:06 AM

WildwoodPark

07-03-2012, 01:31 AM

Listening to Horner's Spider-Man score, is anyone else strangely reminded of Basil Poledouris's Cherry 2000, amongst other things?

*Other things: Debney's score to The Passion of the Christ and Zimmer's The Da Vinci Code appears in the Saving New York track for some reason. Also, "I Can't See You Anymore" sounds suspiciously like Newton Howard, probably the ending from Signs.

I have Cherry 2000 so if anyone would like to hear it I can upload, the previous uploads by other members may have expired by now given the current climate of file hosts.

El Cid

07-03-2012, 03:07 AM

Nothing beats SUPER Atragon. Not even undead ninjas and especially not Basil Royale Part 2. I still hope you ladies and gentlemen will take something out of it. Ninja Resurrection en wind omits the synth present in the original recording. The only difference really (The synth wasn't bad. More the kind of accompanying synth).
El Cid, this one's definitely for you! ;)

I'll later re-upload a FLAC of Ninja Resurrection OST, the original recording with the Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra.

Thanks. Some parts of Ninja are very Conan-like. I'm interested in hearing the OST.

Herr Salat

07-03-2012, 10:42 AM

tangotreats

07-03-2012, 08:11 PM

I would have sworn blind that I'd already posted this at some point in history... but searches turn up a big blank, so perhaps this one may be new to some or all of you splendid people...!

SINSUKE KAZATO
Ultraman GREAT (aka Ultraman: Towards the Future)
Adelaide Symphony Orchestra
conducted by Patrick Thomas

My rip. Tagged in English. Booklet scan included. FLAC at Level 8.

Jumbofiles: http://jumbofiles.com/e4jep3edbnfi
Various mirrors: http://go4up.com/dl/1GO0Iai6xB7x
Mediafire: (Part 1) http://www.mediafire.com/?6xeg453g7lb2j66 / (Part 2) http://www.mediafire.com/?r6p1dz66fpxop9x

1. Prelude
2. Main Title - ULTRAMAN Towards The Future
3. Great Friendship
4. Jean Echo
5. The War Of Deities
6. Cityscape: Sun and Moon
7. The Sword of Wisdom
8. The Wriggling For Cataclysm (don't ask me, guys, I just copy what it says on the CD case...)
9. Finale - ULTRAMAN Legend

Ultraman? Adelaide Symphony Orchestra? LOLWUT???

In the late eighties, keen to break into the foreign market they had almost made an impression on with Ultraseven, Tsuburaya Productions teamed up with the South Australian Film Corporation to produce Ultraman Great - the first and last English language Ultraman series to date. Made in Australia, with an Australian cast and production team, the series was plagued with difficulties - Tsuburaya were not impressed with the attitude taken to their franchise by the Australian team and on hearing about planned production shortcuts they sent a Japanese team to Australia to work for free purely to maintain a certain level of quality. By all accounts, the show was cheap and nasty.

When budget cuts are looming, usually the very first aspects of production to get chopped is the music... but not in this case, strangely enough! Sinsuke Kazato recorded a purely symphonic, one hour score with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra that plays on CD more like a symphony than a film score. He crafted his score as a musically coherent concert work which would then be chopped up and edited in to the TV show as necessary. Yoko Kanno takes a very similar approach in her orchestral scores; writing self-contained mini-symphonic-poem showpieces and leaving the complicated stuff to the editors. So, what we get is nine movements of straight-up old fashioned superhero scoring. The main theme is an absolute corker - musically it's more Superman than Ultraman, and I mean that as a compliment; a lovely march with strident brass and soaring strings right up there with the best. And that's just the beginning! What more can I say? This is a stunner. I know I'm saying that an awful lot lately. But it is. It's a brilliant Ultraman score. But more than that, it's an Ultraman symphony - and it deserves that title ten times more than the Kaoru Wada / Takayuki Hattori album of that title!

The Adelaide Symphony Orchestra play with enthusiasm and accomplishment. The recording is quite splendid - dynamic, genuine, and realistic.

This disc started off very rare - then went through a period of regular availability on Animex 1200, and now I believe it's rare again. So, enjoy. :D

Sirusjr

07-03-2012, 10:06 PM

I seem to recall seeing this posted a while ago but it was such horrible 128kbps mp3 that it was painful to listen to and didn't last long on my hard drive. Many thanks for the upgrade Tango :D

tangotreats

07-04-2012, 12:04 AM

AAAAAARGH! :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymzpmiqSreo&feature=player_embedded#!

See why I'm VERY happy at 0:54 onwards. Your old friend Tango has just uncovered Yoshihisa Hirano's new project... :D

Don't you just love being able to spot a composer's style with just a few seconds of music? Are Western composers allowed to have that amount of musical personality? (Or, for that matter, any whatsoever?)

2012 is really becoming a KILLER year for anime scores.

NaotaM

07-04-2012, 02:35 AM

Nice, very Ouran-ish in the piano.

Herr Salat

07-04-2012, 08:21 AM

NaotaM

07-04-2012, 09:07 AM

Many thanks for the post. Great to finally see what Otsuka actually contributed to the score and...it's not bad. She's no Kanno, it's kinda placid and forgettable, but it's altogether swell stuff.

I remember the word "melodrama" applied to the last EVOL release as well, and it's use confuses me cause it seems kinda arbitrary and meaningless. Since when do you guys bitch about big emotions in orchestral music? For that matter, what is the Uber example of melodramatic music than Golden Age Hollywood style orchestral scores?

Oh, and the thread has 666 likes. Sure that doesn't mean anything at all. ;p

Herr Salat

07-04-2012, 09:30 AM

tangotreats

07-04-2012, 10:24 AM

Nice, very Ouran-ish in the piano.

He really, really likes that tune, doesn't he? Ouran, Chu-bra!!, Shiori to Shimiko no Kaiki Jikenbo, etc. Still, can't complain because it's a good one. :)

Herr Salat: Thanks for that! It wasn't even on my radar. Otsuka's no Kanno - not yet, anyway - but there's so much potential in this little album. Track three stood out for me - 1:04 makes me think of Kanno's classical showboating. Track 5 is also quite interesting. Otsuka deserves to get out on her own.

In the end, Evol has come somewhere between what I expected and what I hoped for. I expected bugger-all new music or a few minutes of synth filler interspersed with Kanno's Aquarion tracks. I hoped for a full-scale new Kanno score with the Warsaw Phil. It's nice to not be completely disappointed for a change - although I'm sure we can all agree that a super-size orchestral Kanno score would've been really, really great... Macross Frontier was nearly FIVE YEARS AGO, folks - and that wasn't the best of Kanno either. Bring on the next Turn A Gundam, Escaflowne, Aquarion, please! ;)

NaotaM

07-04-2012, 10:37 AM

I remember thinking Track 5 sounds kinda Sahashi-esque in that loud, frantic, borderline-cheesy brass that can make certain habits of his a hard sell for me. It's neat hearing different moods like this out of Otsuka. Wonder if there's any more left. There is still some Kanno cues to be released on the Love @ New Dimension album, so who can say?

arthierr

07-04-2012, 02:32 PM

At last some free time! And since I don't plan to go anywhere soon, my participation to the thread will most probably substantially increase! I'll be able to do the stuff I want, like posting some music I find noteworthy, download and listen to the one posted, and make random comments on stuff that grabs my interest, starting with that new Spiderman score people talk about so much.

Also thank you guys for the cascade of great posts lately, I'm now able to compete a little with you, I think. ;)

I have Cherry 2000 so if anyone would like to hear it I can upload, the previous uploads by other members may have expired by now given the current climate of file hosts.

That would be be much appreciated, please. Long time I haven't heard it, and I certainly lost it anyway.

Streich: if there's so many "inspirations", would it mean that Horner becomes a caricature of himself? If he marries Kanno, would they have little photocopiers?

Speaking of Horner, it seems the link to *THE GREATEST PIECE OF FILM MUSIC IN HISTORY*, namely James Horner's Lord of the Rings Overture, is down. How could this be POSSIBLE?! The world is crazy, I'm telling you! Oh no, ladies and gentlemen, I won't permit that humanity is deprived of the supreme beauty of this unprecedented musical achievement. Reup soon.

Herr Salat: no need to modestly hide your little misadventure between spoilers, my friend! On the contrary, the fact of sharing it warns other people on this fraud and can prevent them to fall for it.

Vinphonic

07-04-2012, 05:18 PM

Sakura Wars: Part III

So we move on to Paris.

Sakura Wars 3

Download (mp3 128kbps) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/11YSRTCJ/Sakura_Wars_3.zip_links)

Sakura Wars 3: OVA ~Le Nouveau Paris~

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg822/scaled.php?server=822&filename=ova4albumb.jpg&res=landing

Download (mp3 160kbps) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0WRVQMJ5/Sakura_Wars_3_OVA.zip_links)

After composing so much music for a franchise you would expect Tanaka to get tired of it all or losing his touch. But fear not, for the third game he returns in excellent form, writing new themes and operatic pieces. I suggest you listen to Gravity Daze before this one, perhaps you will notice more than one striking resemblance to that score (coincidentally, both games share many french influences). Tanaka really outdid himself with the orchestral songs in this one. The glorious opening theme of the past scores is replaced with the new "Under the Imperial Flag" which even beats the original in my opinion. It also serves as the backbone for the score of the game. The rest is good old Tanaka.

The OVA on the other hand starts with the usual splendour but shifts towards a more jazzy "noir" style. I especially like the new arrangment of the opening theme. At the end things seem to take a dark turn with the sinister decesive battle and King of Darkness ... but wait, there's one more track ...

Overall these two scores are excellent and belong in any Tanaka collection. Stay tuned for the next part: The final chapter.

Herr Salat

07-04-2012, 08:33 PM

TOSHIYUKI WATANABE
Space Travellers
THE ANIMATION
Tokyo City Philharmonic Orchestra
conducted by Sakae Sakakibara

FLAC + LOG + SCANS | 26 Tracks | 36:33 | 284 MB

Release Date: 21.06.2000
Label: Scitron and Art
Catalog Number: SCDC-00026

01. Prologue
02. Main Title - Space Travellers Theme
03. Koronii no Katasumi Nite - Kosumo Gou
04. AP Raid
05. Escape
06. Theme of Franc
07. ORS
08. Battle
09. Return
10. Shissou Suru Maakyurii to Ronson Kyuushuu
11. Bridge
12. Beautiful Earth
13. Franc's Identity
14. Franc Approaches
15. Franc's Death / From Sorrow to Anger
16. ORS's Attack Begins
17. Prelude of Battle
18. Sortie
19. Plate!
20. Tanner Machine, Takeoff
21. Gattai Kosumo Gou!!
22. Sentou Kosumo Gou!
23. Shield Out / Main Battery Firing
24. Tanner Machine, Breaking Into!
25. Paradaisu Ga Matteruze!
26. End Credits

VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/21023)

Wonky translation/romanization.

DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!cpdnwSZB!bn7IO3Br1B6H4I-xgyHSPhUwmmU411hKxx9_2e23WYc
or
http://www.adrive.com/public/J233un

tangotreats

07-04-2012, 09:18 PM

One thing I will say about Watanabe is that when he chances upon a really good theme, he smacks you around the head with it for the entire score!

Space Travellers is magnificent - thank you, thank you, thank you. :D

Space Brothers is going to be heaps of action adventure once Mutta actually gets into space. So far, we've heard tantalising glimpses of some of the balls-out action cues that will accompany their adventures. Here's about six minutes of the good stuff from the first twelve episodes. It's on course to be the most melodic, genuine sci-fi score to be heard for quite a few years. These cues are extracted from the show, so they sound like hell - apologies in advance. You can hear the music though! How about that cue that starts at 1:58 - anybody else miss sci-fi music that sounds like that? I know I do...

- spacebrothers.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?ck5ag32ciuev62s)

PS... No Space Brothers soundtrack release. Yet another score lost to the "bonus CD" release. Bollocks. At least it's getting out there somehow but bloody hell if any score deserves a CD in recent years it's this one... :(

streichorchester

07-04-2012, 09:36 PM

So is Ayako Otsuka like a kind of New Age/Easy Listening type composer? I went to hear website =TOP= of AyakoOtsuka (http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~prismix2/) and it kind of appears that way.

tangotreats

07-04-2012, 09:52 PM

Oh, and yet another news report:

Not one but two new anime projects for Michiru Oshima!

One movie (Fuse Teppō Musume no Torimonochō) based on a mythological manga, from the director of Xam'd - Lost Memories...

One new television anime series - Zetsuen no Tempest, an action-drama-fantasy-mystery(!!!) from Masahiro Ando and Studio Bones.

What a year!

Sirusjr

07-05-2012, 12:03 AM

Space Travelers and Ultraman are delightful. Many thanks friends :D

Herr Salat

07-05-2012, 05:34 PM

MASAMICHI AMANO
BOYS LEGEND
From the Music of Legend of the Four Horsemen & Sensitive Pornograph
~~The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra~~ The Symphonic Orchestra of Phoenix
conducted by the composer

FLAC + LOG + SCANS | 28 Tracks | 01:01:56 | 362 MB

Release Date: 25.01.2006
Published by: Quantum Leap Music
Catalog Number: QLM-0018

Note: Wonky translation. Some tracks are still romanized. Tracks 1-14: Legend of the Blue Wolves / Hot Space Cowboys. Tracks 15-28: Sensitive Pornograph.

01. Opening Credits (Concerto No.5 in F minor, BWV 1056 - Second movement: Largo)
02. Year 2199 AD / Fall of Man
03. Shadow Army
04. Dai 81 Kidou Fuhyoushidan 25 Ki Sei
05. Leonard's Past
06. Training
07. Target Practice
08. Law of the Shadow Army
09. Ring
10. Ceremony of Humiliation
11. Separation
12. Time of Sortie
13. Leonard and Jonathan
14. Legend of the Blue Wolves

15. Sono and Seiji
16. Encounter
17. Confession
18. Time for the Couple
19. Rumor
20. Truth
21. Happy Morning
22. Eyecatch
23. Pet Sitter
24. Dead Body?!
25. Confusion
26. Aki and Hiroshi
27. Reunion
28. Ending

Track 1 - Composer:
Johann Sebastian Bach

Track 28 - Vocalist:
Shinichi Ishihara

Album Information (VGMdb) (http://vgmdb.net/album/39993)

Re: Legend of the Blue Wolves

Really awful piece of gay pornography glued hamfistedly together with a drab sub-plot about the army trying to wipe out a race of killers on Pluto...Right, this scene is where a fat man attacks some guy, then his mates come in and they rape him. Then the guy's boyfriend shows up and cuts off the fat guy's cock. This scene is about some spaceships flying around. This scene is a blowjob. You can have a 70 piece orchestra. Enjoy!

The rape scene is track 10. The key change at 0:58 highlights the removal of the protagonists underpants and the debut of his enormous penis. Yes, folks - Amano actually acknowledges the appearance of a penis with an orchestral flourish. At 1:21 the blowjob continues apace and the other gentlemen appear and begin molesting the protagonist. At 2:37 his boyfriend runs to rescue him; in the mean time he is penetrated by a fat man (2:57) and forced to perform fellatio on yet another man (3:20) and then the fat man (3:50). At 4:05 the protagonist's angry boyfriend appears with a knife and at 4:20 uses it to remove the rapist's penis.

I wish I were joking. WTF, Japan???

I wonder if the orchestra knew what they were recording? Or did they just play it safe and say "Right, chaps - this is a score to an animated film. Let's go!" and leave it there? I'm guessing they weren't scoring to picture!

I can't imagine a respected classical symphony orchestra populated with sixty or seventy devout Catholics particularly relishing the subject matter of this show...

ＦＬＡＣ
https://mega.co.nz/#!WhYjibbJ!RevTnPsI2JK5uPI7m1TP6ECVxzjv2jPvKCFULtU fuCE
or
http://www.adrive.com/public/FVhaSH

Sirusjr

07-05-2012, 05:42 PM

I think I actually watched some of that Legend of the Blue Wolves back in the day. The cover looks very familiar...Thanks for sharing :)

tangotreats

07-05-2012, 05:59 PM

HAH EXCELLENT! Thank you again, sir!

For anybody who's interested, the rape scene is track 10. The key change at 0:58 highlights the removal of the protagonists underpants and the debut of his enormous penis. Yes, folks - Amano actually acknowledges the appearance of a penis with an orchestral flourish. At 1:21 the blowjob continues apace and the other gentlemen appear and begin molesting the protagonist. At 2:37 his boyfriend runs to rescue him; in the mean time he is penetrated by a fat man (2:57) and forced to perform fellatio on yet another man (3:20) and then the fat man (3:50). At 4:05 the protagonist's angry boyfriend appears with a knife and at 4:20 uses it to remove the rapist's penis.

I wish I were joking. WTF, Japan???

arieluigi

07-05-2012, 06:18 PM

yepsa

07-05-2012, 06:22 PM

the blowjob continues apace and the other gentlemen appear and begin molesting the protagonist...his boyfriend runs to rescue him; in the mean time he is penetrated by a fat man and forced to perform fellatio on yet another man...the protagonist's angry boyfriend appears with a knife and uses it to remove the rapist's penis.

Holy crap----sounds just like my 4th of July!

Sirusjr

07-05-2012, 07:28 PM

Holy crap----sounds just like my 4th of July!

Haha you could say some of that described my 4th as well but I won't say which part.

tangotreats

07-05-2012, 07:31 PM

Take out the rape, the castration, and the rousing symphonic score, and it's somewhat descriptive of my last-Saturday.

NaotaM

07-05-2012, 08:29 PM

"Rousing" is right.

yepsa

07-05-2012, 08:38 PM

Take out the rape, the castration, and the rousing symphonic score, and it's somewhat descriptive of my last-Saturday.

So, another dull day in the old UK?

tangotreats

07-05-2012, 09:02 PM

Sirusjr

07-05-2012, 11:03 PM

Yes, with blowjobs.

Incidentally... I wonder if the orchestra knew what they were recording? Or did they just play it safe and say "Right, chaps - this is a score to an animated film. Let's go!" and leave it there? I'm guessing they weren't scoring to picture! ;)

I can't imagine a respected classical symphony orchestra populated with sixty or seventy devout Catholics particularly relishing the subject matter of this show...

Hahaha - yeah I suspect they left them in the dark, although the name "boys legend" sort of suggests this is yaoi material, though not necessarily violent rape porn. My blowjobs are usually accompanied by rousing orchestral scores ;)

17love

07-06-2012, 01:15 AM

Thanks so much for this upload! The shows/movies are crap, but the music is amazing. I actually put myself through revisiting Blue Wolves in order to capture audio files. No amount of eye-closing could remove the horrors from my mind, though. This is much better than listening to the soundtrack with the dialogue and ... sound effects. xP

Sirusjr

07-10-2012, 01:00 AM

Fire Emblem: Kakusei Music Selection (2012, MP3 VBR v-0)
Composed by Yuka Tsujiyoko, T's Music
Synth Orchestral|Adventure

Download (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/363229603/FEKMS.rar.html)

Worth checking out for anyone who is a fan of Hitoshi Sakimoto's recent soundtracks and the samples he uses for them. The sample orchestra sounds very similar to what Hitoshi Sakimoto uses.

Thanks to the user who posted lossless version in TAK in the lossless thread here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/lossless-video-game-soundtrack-thread-links-first-64743/381.html#post2034643).

NaotaM

07-10-2012, 05:30 AM

micobear

07-10-2012, 06:00 AM

Iwashiro Taro (岩代太郎) best album: Tact II - Soundtracky
included unreleased soundtrack from The Sands of Kurobe (黒部の太陽) and Children in the Dark (闇の子供たち).

aac@320k (174mb)
Download Tact II Soundtracky.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xh8m3k)

p.s.
I would like to ask a little favor here... anyone nice happened to have this one~? the latest release of Iwashiro Taro

Sirusjr

07-10-2012, 06:41 AM

Quick note: Apparently, there was some kind of new Rurouni Kenshin thing recently that had Naoki Sato attached. WPCL-11194 | Rurouni Kenshin Original Soundtrack - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/33968)

So keep an eye and ear out for that, I guess.

You mean the live action movie ;) Yeah! My friend showed me the trailer and this looks very interesting. I'll have to keep an eye out for the soundtrack!

Herr Salat

07-10-2012, 09:44 AM

micobear

07-10-2012, 12:01 PM

Wow~ thanks for the prompt n long reply Herr Salat~!

Thank you pal, thanks for ur contributions of Masamichi Amano and Taro Iwashiro! You are definitely one the most generous and passionate contributor here~ ^o^

I did notice about Isoroku, actually I was wondering if u brought that because of my request... n in fact u did! I can say nth for this but thanks again here.

I do understand your concern pal, I just wanna try my luck here~ ^_^

About that "aaaaTact II Soundtracky" tagging, it's my silly way to sort out things in iTunes while transcode... Sorry for my being absent-minded for not correcting it before uploading *o*

---------- Post added at 07:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:43 PM ----------

OMG!!! U make it again Herr Salat!!! thank you so very much!!! It's greatly appreciated~~ \(^0^)/

I promise not to post it that soon even I managed to get it in flac later... Kidding...

Sirusjr

07-10-2012, 04:47 PM

Thanks everybody for breaking the silence. I will never share an Amano Orchestral Porn Score ever again, since that will give us four days of dread to come back again in this thread. Actually, that was the last Amano Orchestral Porn Score there is, unless Phoenix Entertainment saved one for a...wet day...
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Someone was trying to make love whilst Legend of the Blue Wolves OST was playing.

It was too high-brow... No wonder Amano wasn't allowed to do another porn score ever again!

Actually...it works just as well as any other big orchestral music for those situations ;) Big orchestral music is the one type where I know there aren't going to be wacky tracks in the middle that destroy the mood.

Herr Salat

07-10-2012, 04:49 PM

Orie

07-11-2012, 02:03 AM

I know some of you are not that Hanz Zimmer fans for certain reasons. But I wanted to share this orchestral thing for you all. ^_^
I like this cd very much, not because of Hanz Zimmer signature or anything of the kind.. it is the work done in here that makes me love it. :)
The work of strings is amazing. In my opinion. :)
Hope you all like it. :)

ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK - the ring, the ring two
FLAC / MP3 VBR (Thread 118029)

Release date: 2005.03.15
Cataloge number: B0004405-02
Label: Decca

Music by: Hans Zimmer, Henning Lohner & Martin Tillman

Tracklist:

01 The Well
02 Before You Die, You See The Ring
03 This Is Going To Hurt
04 Burning Tree
05 Not Your Mommy
06 Shelter Mountain
07 The Ferry
08 I'll Follow Your Voice
09 She Never Sleeps
10 Let The Dead Get In
11 Seven Days
12 Television

micobear

07-11-2012, 08:34 AM

a little return for Herr Salat's generosity~:D

Naoki Sato's score to NHK documentary: Dinosaur vs Mammal -hundred and fifty million years' war-

aac@320k (118mb)
[email protected] (http://www.mediafire.com/?0en42oy5n9oci3c)

Highly Recommend~!! enjoy~:D

arthierr

07-11-2012, 01:34 PM

Herr Salat: don't worry, my friend! The relative silence was is no way related to your pron score, but more certainly to the blissful beginning of the summer vacations! Thank you very much for your awesome posts, and I wholeheartedly agree with Micobear about you being a top contributor to this thread and this forum. Thanks also for your other posts, guys, especially this NHK score that looks wonderful!

Tonight I'll have one score to post, an highly hopeful, optimistic, positive orchestral score.

Sirusjr

07-11-2012, 06:25 PM

Many thanks for your contributions Herr Salat. Much appreciated!

evilwurst

07-11-2012, 08:13 PM

a little return for Herr Salat's generosity~:D

Naoki Sato's score to NHK documentary: Dinosaur vs Mammal -hundred and fifty million years' war-

aac@320k (118mb)
[email protected] (http://www.mediafire.com/?0en42oy5n9oci3c)

Highly Recommend~!! enjoy~:D

I get undecipherable character encodings for the filenames of that one, but I was able to find the tracklist elsewhere: NHK Special Kyoryu vs Honyurui Ichioku Gosenman Nen no Tatakai O.S.T. TV Original Soundtrack [CD] (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VICP-63536)
(It's still Japanese of course, but I prefer seeing that over "11 ��π��σ╕�▒� ~σ�║Σ╣│Θ�₧~.m4a")

arthierr

07-12-2012, 01:42 AM

As I announced earlier, here's a very nice "feel good" orchestral score I'd like to introduce to you.

Yusuke HOMMA
Ii Hito OST

The Czech Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra
Prague National Theater Chorus
Conducted by Mario Klemens

Mp3 320 kbps / 18 tracks

Download mirrors for Ii_Hito_OST.rar - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/J08C3C5J/Ii_Hito_OST.rar_links)

Yusuke Homma is a rather prolific composer in Japan. He has produced numbers of anime, drama and movie scores over the span of his career; but for some odd reason, his music, often orchestral, has never been posted in this thread (to my knowledge). It's greatly time to repair this scandalous shortcoming by posting one of his most pleasant scores!

Ii Hito, a Japanese drama from 1997, basically relates the story of a "Mr. Nice Guy" who, after being dismissed for being too nice, progressively gains the esteem and respect of his co-workers. Like the story itself, the music is very optimistic in nature. Yusuke Homma created a very positive sounding score, resolutely hopeful, like what you would expect from a sports movie where a feeble athlete eventually wins the Olympics or something.

I enjoy this score precisely for its positive nature, because it does provide me some energy and good mood when I need them. At a time when so many people seem to be crazy about desperately dark, brooding, pretentious and noisy scores *cough, TDKR, cough*, I think it's interesting to post the exact opposite: a beautiful and melodic score, full of glory and cheerfulness, that inspires and motivates. Enjoy!

simonwu20923

07-12-2012, 08:50 AM

Continuing the Disney theme:

http://rapidshare.com/files/226939793/Alan_Menken.rar
320kbps / 165 MB / 8 tracks / 1:11 mins

1. POCAHONTAS - Suite
(Pocahontas / Ship at Sea / Grandmother Willow / Council Meeting / Skirmish / The Warriors Arrive / Execution / Farewell)
2. 'Just Around the River Bend' in the style of Vaughan Williams *
3. 'Colours of the Wind' in the style of Dvoř�k *

4. THE LITTLE MERMAID - Suite
(Main Title / Fanfare / Fireworks/ Jig / Storm / Bedtime)

5. 'Beauty and the Beast' in the style of Rachmaninov *
6. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST - Suite
(Prologue / West Wing / Transformation 1 / Transformation 2)

7. THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME - Suite
(Gypsy Dance / Paris Burning / Esmeralda / Santuary! / And He Shall Smite the Wicked)

8. ALADDIN - Suite
(Marketplace / The Cave of Wonders / The Kiss)

* Arrangements by Donald Fraser

I know this might be a stretch, but can anyone re-upload this soundtrack?

Herr Salat

07-12-2012, 09:33 AM

chancth

07-12-2012, 01:47 PM

[center]KAORU WADA
Composition ~ Arrangement ~ Conductor

King of Beetle
MUSHIKING:
Legend of the Forest People
Soundtrack Best Selection

Apple Lossless
Wada-TheBEETLES.part1.rar (199 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?ehb797prv7da2ko)
Wada-TheBEETLES.part2.rar (133 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?e5447d9te8k3yy2)

Scans (16 MB) (http://www.mediafire.com/?goeapt852mi1wua)

Tracklist information at vgmdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/14475).
Not tagged in English...yet.

Awesome ! many thanks for that gem

arthierr

07-12-2012, 07:13 PM

Wondeful, Herr Salat! Again I can only admire your genuine dedication and remarkable efforts. I haven't listened to Coach before, and boy does it sound good. Many thanks for the AAC rip!

Your enthusiasm is very communicative, so I'll post tonight another Yusuke Homma, again a very positive and cheerful score.

Edit: edited my Ii Hito post thanks to the back cover photo you found!

Herr Salat

07-12-2012, 08:27 PM

tangotreats

07-12-2012, 08:40 PM

Oh, YES! That is going to look BEAUTIFUL. GR was pretty much theatrical quality animation, after all...

BUT! F**k me, it's expensive. Actually, no, strike that. It's SHOCKINGLY expensive. �500 (once postage and import fees are added) for seven OVAs of about 50 minutes each. That's under six hours of content. And it's a twenty year-old show. Count me out, chaps - I'll be pirating that one. I'm a very big fan of GR (the shows as well as the scores) but that is just TOO MUCH for any sane man to contemplate...

Edit: The Japanese description appears to be suggesting that Amano's scores will be isolated in full, losslessly, at 24-bit 96khz. This could be interesting. Still too damn expensive, though... :/

Edit again: That's a four disc set. Assuming the BDs are dual layer, that's a 200gb download. Oh, lucky lucky me. My ISP is really going to whip my arse that month...

Herr Salat

07-12-2012, 08:46 PM

Lens of Truth

07-12-2012, 10:38 PM

Brilliant uploads coming thick and fast- I can't keep up! Thanks everyone!

I know this might be a stretch, but can anyone re-upload this soundtrack?

I'm going to post an updated version of this soon. :)

El Cid

07-13-2012, 12:34 AM

If somebody has a rapidshare account this may be of interest:

[Diskographie]Joe Hisaishi - Studio Ghibli (177 Alben) [FLAC/mp3] (http://tehparadox.com/forum/f117/%5Bdiskographie%5Djoe-hisaishi-studio-ghibli-177-alben-%5Bflac-mp3%5D-4308155/)

Rather painful to download at 30K/s (free).

streichorchester

07-13-2012, 03:14 AM

So this is happening: A 4-Disc Final Fantasy 6 Album from OC ReMix by ocremix — Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ocremix/a-4-disc-final-fantasy-6-album-from-oc-remix)

somber orchestral marches? :o

JBarron2005

07-13-2012, 05:22 AM

I never like the OCR projects that involve "orchestral" arrangements. The Chrono Symphonic project was a complete joke and did not serve as a suitable tribute. I will at least give it a shot, but I remain skeptical that this new project will succeed in paying homage to one of the most famous of FF scores.

TazerMonkey

07-13-2012, 08:17 AM

I also remember disappointment with the Chrono Symphonic album, but, to be fair, it was inspired by a fan-written screenplay written by a high schooler; there seems to be a much greater sense of professionalism to this project.

What I find interesting is that they're over $50K and still have a month of financing left to go. With that much money, it seems much more in the realm of possibility that perhaps for the orchestral bits they could actually hire a live, full orchestra and take it to the next level of awesome. If it was announced that they'd do as such if they reached a certain goal, I know I'd be more inclined to participate. Right now it seems they're more interested in expanding the physical release with their excess costs, which is somewhat discouraging.

I've thought for a long time that if I ever became wealthy I'd want to try and fund something like this (FF6 is my favorite game soundtrack by a rather significant margin) and if they really step up and bring their A-game this could be really quite exciting. Color me excited, if slightly apprehensive.

NaotaM

07-13-2012, 08:42 AM

I really wouldn't expect anything from this, orchestral-wise, unless streichorchester is contributing himself. I'm looking forward to it, as OCRemix is usually a lot of fun, far more so than, say, ZREO, but they're already said as much they're focusing strictly on diversity with this one.

tangotreats

07-13-2012, 09:09 AM

Bah, it's going to stink and you all know it. Talentless hack amateurs who have learned a little bit about sample libraries by playing with Fruity Loops, making limp and uninteresting "arrangements" of existing pieces, taking advantage of the popularity of their source material to get impressionable fans who don't know any better all riled up and foaming at the mouth. Another artless, failure of a project that deserves nothing but derision and obscurity, but will undoubtedly be trumpeted as the most epic thing EVAR. Oh, shoot me, shoot me now.

At least they're not that collective of deluded nutcases otherwise known as ZREO; but perhaps there is only room in this world for one group as consistently arrogant, ignorant, and imbecilic as them.

Anybody else pine for the days when musicians made music, and fans used to listen to it?

Herr Salat

07-13-2012, 03:29 PM

NaotaM

07-13-2012, 04:43 PM

tangotreats

07-13-2012, 07:02 PM

What did I do to deserve that?

arthierr

07-13-2012, 07:36 PM

tangotreats

07-13-2012, 08:26 PM

Thank you!

Just to clarify, I love the fact that today one is able to express themselves artistically if one so desires. Truly it allows people to realise their potential - people who would have had no other chance whatsoever to explore that potential in any other era.

Unfortunately, for every one person who benefits, for every great artist who is discovered, for every talented amateur given a chance to bloom... there are fifty thousand bumbling simpletons who pirate themselves a copy of Cakewalk and a few sample libraries, and suddenly they think they're John Williams. For them, music is software, software is music. ZREO are prime examples; their press releases use the same language you'd expect to hear in a Microsoft keynote presentation. They're not musicians. And there's one very good reason why they're working on Zelda, or Final Fantasy, or Mario, or whatever - it's a quick route to popularity and, as more recent projects have discovered, MONEY. ZREO aren't popular because they're great musicians; they're popular because they're arranging music from hyper-popular franchises.

Did I read that one of these nonsense projects has raised FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS? Do they realise what you can do with fifty thousand dollars? My orchestral project is on a budget of �5,000. I'd kill for fifty grand.

I have nothing but respect for people who want to create, who believe in something and work hard to make it the best they possibly can. I have less respect for groups of arrogant shortcut-takers who dupe money out of mindless fanboys and turn out artless nonsense. I can think of a dozen composers off the top of my head who really could use that money and would do something truly wonderful with it. They won't get it, though - because they're not cooking up "epic awesomesauce" Koji Kondo meets Gladiator arrangements of thirty year old Zelda melodies! ;)

Doublehex

07-13-2012, 09:04 PM

Well, that's the thing you have to deal with crowd funding such as Kickstarter. All of the big success came from big names. There's The Banner Saga, who raised 800% of their original goal because the three main members all came from Bioware AND they are appealing to a genre of games (turn based strategy) that hasn't been touched for the most part. Double Fine got so much money because they have been known to create very well done, strange and weird story centric games (oh, and Tim Schafer). Wasteland 2 got alot of money because most of the talent came from Wasteland, which was a HUGE hit back in the day, as well as being another example of appealing to the turn based genre.

So, you want to know why this FF6 fan project got alot of money? Because it is a fan project to FF6 AND it's from a well known group in the fan music scene. So when you combine the two, it's no wonder that you get such a massive success in terms of money.

Now tango, I will say this: if you ever decide to fund an orchestra project of yours on Kickstarter, I'll throw some money your way. Just saying. No nudging or suggesting intended.

Sirusjr

07-13-2012, 09:18 PM

I certainly agree with Tango that if you were to look at the prior works done by the guys at OCR, they were mostly disappointing. To me most projects require a grand symphonic approach because they tend to be based on games with big grand scores. But their works tend to be full of beats (see FFIV). I don't doubt that they want to do something amazing but I'll believe it when I see it if it truly turns out to be something worthy of spending money on.

tangotreats

07-13-2012, 09:33 PM

Thank you very much indeed! :)

I had considered it, to be honest - it would take the edge off. As far as my current plan is, I'm financing it completely out of my own pocket and calling in just about every single favour I can think of. I just hate taking money off people. Receiving donations shifts the focus subtly. I thought I would feel more comfortable paying for it myself; that way if it was a complete and utter cock up, or nobody liked the finished product, I wouldn't have to feel guilty about sinking other people's funds. I can just hear it now: "Here's a donation. Since I'm putting money into this thing, why don't you...?" and so on.

On the other hand, it's a metric f**ktonne of money. With the favours and the low budget all taken into consideration, I can do my album for about five thousand. That's about 30 minutes of full orchestra and another thirty minutes of smaller-ensemble companion pieces. It's not going to bankrupt me, but it's not exactly the sort of money I can casually pull out of my ass, either. The donation thing bothers me because you pick a sum, and if you reach it, you get your money. If you don't reach it by the end of your allotted time, everybody gets a refund and you get nothing.

SO... What do you do? I could say I want �5,000 to completely fund the whole thing. But frankly, I wouldn't turn down *anything* - even if I got, say, �500 or �1000. IT WOULD HELP! So, I say I want �1,000. Then what if my project is stupidly popular? Suppose people *would* have come up with the full five grand but now they won't because they'll get me up to �1,000 and say "Oh, OK, he's got all the money he needs!" and stop donating...!!! By the same token, �5000 would do the job reasonably well - but what if people want to donate �20,000 or �50,000 or �100,000? Warsaw Philharmonic and choir. Donate �200,000 or �300,000? Two CD set orchestrated by Yoshihisa Hirano recorded in Abbey Road 1, Eric Tomlinson out of retirement to record it, London f**king Symphony Orchestra, London Symphony Chorus, Huddersfield Choral Society, guest soloists, ondes martinot, theremin, blaster beam, and the Royal Albert Hall organ, thank you very much, mate, that'd be lovely.

Ohh, a man can dream...

So, you have a choice between deliberately under-estimating what you need to increase the chances of reaching the goal and getting the money, or giving an accurate or over-inflated estimate and taking the risk that you won't reach the goal in time and will eventually receive sod all.

That, and I doubt I'd get much recognition - since I'm not doing Hans Zimmer-alike arrangements of video game scores I can't capitalise on the "OMG I PLAYED THAT GAME WHEN I WAS A KID HERE HAVE ALL MY LIFE SAVINGS!!!!!!" mentality that is going around the ZREO and OCR projects at the moment!

Maybe I should throw a ten minute Zelda / Final Fantasy / Mario / Sonic / Kid Icarus medley on there just for the sheer bloody hell of it... ;)

Herr Salat

07-13-2012, 11:11 PM

tangotreats

07-13-2012, 11:37 PM

Why on earth are you sorry? :D

Speaking for myself, I'm really in love with that album. It's a shame the recording is so claustrophobic because I think the arrangements are absolutely sublime. What a splendid idea for a repost... :D :D :D :D

Sirusjr

07-13-2012, 11:51 PM

I'm pretty sure if you undercut your donation needs they would not simply stop. Perhaps you could set a tiered goal and say if donations reach $5k you will do one thing, if they reach $20k you will do another, etc etc. Of course others probably know more about how Kickstarter works than I do. It couldn't hurt to give it a shot. Many times there is some sort of incentive to donate more (donations of $20 will get a digital download when released, donations of $40 will get a video, etc).

Doublehex

07-14-2012, 01:20 AM

Yes - but I would like to add that this isn't donation so much as it is funding. Lots of people like the concept of something and they decide to help fund it together. Realistically speaking, it is a very long winded pre-order, once you think about it. Everything I helped Kickstarted I knew was going to be somewhere from 1 year off before I'd see it.

So Tango, if you ever did decide after your current project to do another via Kickstart, you should probably keep a few things in mind. One, you will need to have an open communication with your customers while still holding true to your creative vision. They would probably prefer you did that anyways - I mean, usually people Kickstart something because it is not what mainstream whatever won't give them. Look at all the big success - they were all niche things! I mostly used videogames as an example because that is what really brought Kickstarter to the showlight, but I believe the comparisons are valid.

And, you would need to have tiered rewards, to give an incentive for people to give more. People will often upgrade their funds because a project decides to add a new reward tier. So, you would need to think up of a bunch of tiered rewards that a) are fair for the amount you'd be asking for each and b) would accommodation for the 10% from Kickstarter and Amazon, the actual production of the rewards, and the shipping of said rewards.

...I probably scared you even more so into not doing Kickstarter. Crap. Forget I said anything then.

NaotaM

07-14-2012, 03:46 AM

Haha, Tango! While your post is perhaps a little too negative to some tastes, the subject you tackle is quite an interesting one. Basically, you can boil it down to the question: what is it to be an artist?

Are you an artist simply by doing art, by having artistic activities? In which case anybody, including these guys, is virtually an artist. Or does it requires a necessary amount of knowledge and skill to be considered a real artist? But in this case, how comes that many highly trained artists have some rather bland, uninspired production? Would that mean that you also must have something else on top of being very skilled and knowledgeable?

After years of artistic activities, I tend to think that to be a real artist, you must have some real talent AND some high competence / knowledge.

In terms of talent, nobody is equal, we are all born with a different level of talent and artistry, and this will have an important influence on the quality of our production afterwards. But talent without competence isn't much, in fact. I don't know who said "good art is 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration", but this is absolutely correct. You have to be very learned and highly trained in order to create some really good, or even great, art. Talent without skill is like having a million dollar on a desert island: it's mostly useless.

Conversely, I've seen many very competent artists who aren't really inspired and tend to mechanically apply recipes in order to create technically very good but artistically bland material. So you probably also need more than pure skill to be a real artist. A certain level of natural artistry, aesthetic sense and brilliant inspirations is required to create some really worthy art.

Now, about these guys, I won't make any judgment about them since I don't know them, their background and their past production; but in the hypothesis they are indeed amateurs who try to play big game, would it be a bad thing? I don't think so, *IF*, and only if, their project isn't a commercial one, and if they clearly state at the beginning that this a FAN project, not a professional one. It seems to be the case, so I can only wish them good luck and hope they'll give the best of themselves for it!

That said, I must admit I don't have much hope about it. FFVI, by its nature and scope, requires a grand orchestral approach, and I really don't see how you can respect the original spirit by opting for a multi-genre approach, including some popular music styles that are about as prestigious and lofty as a fart joke.

Everything creative in this world is art. There just so happens that there's good art and bad art, and which is which varies from individual to individiual. Thomas Kincade was art, he just so happened to be trite garbage. Yuki Kajiura writes practically the same basic thing every single time, but people equally adore and bemoan her for it, and the same applies to quite a few other musicians. Sometimes, great art excels in one area so remarkably, say, inspiration or technical ability, that it makes up for deficiencies in originality or lyrical writing.

One thing to keep in mind regarding the double-edged sword of amatuer idiots getting just as much of a shot as the actual diamonds in the rough is that they're also just as likely to be ignored. ZREO's success is a fluke, a case of filling a very specific niche at just the right point in time, and their success doesn't change the fact that there are scads of other, even lesser hacks out there riding the "Buy sample library, butcher popular music, profit!" trend that languish in Youtube to never be seen or heard. For every Kincade, there are hundreds of Bob Ross-alike art school dropouts. For every Beiber, a factory of mass-produced me-toos that never so much as get the chance to shuffle into the door. There's an entire wasteland of hackery our eyes and ears are spared from everyday, and I don't find it accurate to lament the Everyone is an Artist Information Age just because we get a good deal of crap seeping through the cracks. Sturgeon's Law remains true, but the fact is it could be sooooooo much worse.

About FFVI, that score was perhaps the most varied and colorful in Uematsu's repetoire, ranging from orchestral, opera, rock, jazz, ragtime, ethnic, waltz and innumerable other genres, or at least the closest the SNES hardware could approximate. Expecting a pure symphonic approach, or positing that that's the only way to do the score justice, makes little sense, if not wholly inaccurate, and not just because OCRemix is historically not known for orchestral arrangements in the first place or because I personally do not hold the opinion that the "symphonic approach" is the be all, end all of musical expression. It's the same reason I'll take MOKA's OoT Re-arrange album over the Hyrule Symphony CD any day, for instance. One interprets the wildly varied original material in a matching kaleidoscope of tones, genres and colors, including orchestral, to amazing effect, and the other drapes it all in the same grey shade of instrumental ensemble. Twas still lovely stuff, but such a narrow musical choice seems disparaging to what made the music great in the first place.

Smack81

07-14-2012, 04:17 AM

Naoki Sato - Umizaru 4: Brave Hearts (2012)

Brave Hearts Umizaru (Original Soundtrac.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?z9ii4icmzhpae9a)

Track list:

1. BRAVE HEARTS
2. TANKER BAKUHATSU
3. FUTATABI GENBA HE
4. SAIGO NO TORIDE
5. RANGER KUNREN
6. SURECHIGAI
7. EMERGENCY
8. 206 BIN
9. KYOUKOU CHAKURIKU
10. SENTAKU
11. KIBOU NO HIKARI
12. 346 NIN NO NEGAI
13. KYUUJO TAISEI
14. KAZOKU
15. CHAKUSUI
16. INKA
17. IKITE KAERU
18. TOKKYUUTAI
19. MUKAE
20. FUJOU
21. SHINJIRARERU MONO
22. BELIEVE (Piano & Strings Instrumental)

JBarron2005

07-14-2012, 06:34 AM

I thought about contributing to being an arranger for this FF6 OCR project, but I'm not sure how I would go about that. As for musical competency, I have had the pleasure of meeting Andrew Aversa and his wife Jillian. I dined with them in Chicago a couple of years ago before the Distant Worlds concert. They are certainly nice people and quite talented.

TazerMonkey

07-14-2012, 06:39 AM

In dreams...

JBarron2005

07-14-2012, 07:48 AM

Since someone posted FF6 orchestra music, I had found this performance of the entire FFVI Ending Theme. It is for strings only, but it is well performed. Enjoy :).

Part I: Ending Theme 1 - Final Fantasy VI - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtNIkOHXDqM)
Part II: Ending Theme 2 - Final Fantasy VI - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aajtsBtUagU)

arthierr

07-14-2012, 10:22 AM

About FFVI, that score was perhaps the most varied and colorful in Uematsu's repetoire, ranging from orchestral, opera, rock, jazz, ragtime, ethnic, waltz and innumerable other genres, or at least the closest the SNES hardware could approximate. Expecting a pure symphonic approach, or positing that that's the only way to do the score justice, makes little sense, if not wholly inaccurate, and not just because OCRemix is historically not known for orchestral arrangements in the first place or because I personally do not hold the opinion that the "symphonic approach" is the be all, end all of musical expression. It's the same reason I'll take MOKA's OoT Re-arrange album over the Hyrule Symphony CD any day, for instance. One interprets the wildly varied original material in a matching kaleidoscope of tones, genres and colors, including orchestral, to amazing effect, and the other drapes it all in the same grey shade of instrumental ensemble. Twas still lovely stuff, but such a narrow musical choice seems disparaging to what made the music great in the first place.

REALLY? It makes a very long time I haven't heard FFVI, but if indeed it is THAT diverse, it means I probably focused my attention too much on the orchestral-ish pieces, as usual, therefore I can only remember these (BTW, to some extent, opera and waltz can be considered in the same ballpark as orchestral music).

Anyway, even so, we certainly have here the same trend as many japanese scores: some standout orchestral pieces and a bunch of crap filler tracks / source music in between. But perhaps there are indeed some really good non-orchestral tracks (I seem to recall a nice western-like theme... for a ninja!), but then I tend to think that these pieces should have been orchestrated for more impact, appropriateness and homogeneity.

And it doesn't change my opinion on the grand symphonic approach being by far the most appropriate and making the most sense for such story, or any big epic fantasy story for that matter. Perhaps some would prefer "rock, jazz, ragtime", dance music or hip hop for it, but in this case I'd have some serious concerns about their artistic tastes. How about TLOR scored with some wacky j-pop? oh, wait...

BTW, this is something that often stroke me: why are japs so excessively and inaccurately eclectic in their scores? Western scores aren't like this, there may be a lot of crap too, but at least it's appropriate, adequate, genre-respective and homogeneous crap - pretty hard to imagine a Skyrim with some techno in it, right?

IHateThatHedgehog

07-14-2012, 04:54 PM

radliff

07-14-2012, 06:08 PM

Unfortunately, while it is in 320 kbps, I haven't the slightest idea how FLAC works, so I have no FLAC link here. I apologize in advance.

If you have the CD, me or pretty much anyone else here could tell you if you want to know, though someone here might maybe even be able to point to a post that explains it.

If you have the MP3 files, making a FLAC from it would be pointless; FLAC is intended to compress- like zip- music data, and MP3 does the same after throwing away some parts it considers won't be missed. This data you cannot get back, so making FLAC from MP3 only increases the file size, but the data (music) thrown away cannot be recovered (barren fancy extrapolation some researchers might have found).

Herr Salat

07-14-2012, 07:52 PM

radliff

07-14-2012, 08:29 PM

In the meantime, I hope Nobuo Uematsu himself/or any other good Ar-range-r gets a chance to re-record FF6 with an orchestra. I don't believe OC Remix could do it justice. When I wasn't into orchestral music, I was very into their FF7 Remix. But now, not so much. It's not like I think there is no need for these when the Grand Finale album exists. Masamichi Amano's wind ensemble recordings of his scores taught me never to dismiss new recordings in general.

Well, you could have a look at the FF6-based final fantasy piano concerto that was performed as part of Symphonic Odysseys - several bootlegs have been floating around and should still be found on this site.
SO is part of a symphonic concert series with interesting, but clearly lacking arrangements, but it might still be to your taste to have at least some glimpse of what it might sound like.
It might also be interesting to listen to the beginning of Also sprach Zarathustra (of Strauss), which I think is where the beginning of FF6 is adapted from.
Individual tracks, namely the opera, Terra's theme and Dancing Mad can also be found throughout the Distant Worlds CDs, though I find their arrangements absolutely boring.

IHateThatHedgehog

07-14-2012, 08:42 PM

Tis the least I can do! :) I heard everyone talking about, thought "Hey, I have that, haven't uploaded anything since the score to 1997's Anastasia awhile back, so...why not?" and here we are. I should probably re-upload that one on Peejeshare as well, if anyone wants it.

Thank you for the FLAC making tutorial! Hopefully despite the fact I'm *ahem* slightly inept at using FLAC (I don't even know how to play FLAC files, let alone how to make them,) I'll be able to learn something from this. Thank you very much! :)

It seems I'm with the general consensus here about the OCRemix FF6 project; nice concept, they mean well, but they really can't do justice properly to the masterpiece that is Final Fantasy VI, no matter how hard they try. The only way justice could be done is if it was played by an orchestra, possibly with minor synthetic elements.

NaotaM

07-15-2012, 12:09 AM

REALLY? It makes a very long time I haven't heard FFVI, but if indeed it is THAT diverse, it means I probably focused my attention too much on the orchestral-ish pieces, as usual, therefore I can only remember these (BTW, to some extent, opera and waltz can be considered in the same ballpark as orchestral music).

Anyway, even so, we certainly have here the same trend as many japanese scores: some standout orchestral pieces and a bunch of crap filler tracks / source music in between. But perhaps there are indeed some really good non-orchestral tracks (I seem to recall a nice western-like theme... for a ninja!), but then I tend to think that these pieces should have been orchestrated for more impact, appropriateness and homogeneity.

And it doesn't change my opinion on the grand symphonic approach being by far the most appropriate and making the most sense for such story, or any big epic fantasy story for that matter. Perhaps some would prefer "rock, jazz, ragtime", dance music or hip hop for it, but in this case I'd have some serious concerns about their artistic tastes. How about TLOR scored with some wacky j-pop? oh, wait...

BTW, this is something that often stroke me: why are japs so excessively and inaccurately eclectic in their scores? Western scores aren't like this, there may be a lot of crap too, but at least it's appropriate, adequate, genre-respective and homogeneous crap - pretty hard to imagine a Skyrim with some techno in it, right?

I would avoid making dumb blanket statements about music you can't even remember, but if I were in the business of making unveiled jabs at other people's opinions, I'd say that I question, if not outright dismiss, the artistic tastes of anyone who uses the word "homogenous" as a positive. :D

The word you're probably groping for is actually "consistent", but even then, I balk. Japan is Numero Ichi in the scoring business, and the Western world has fallen so far behind outside of indie circle, precisely because of strict, arbitrary adherence to archaic ideas of genre etiquette on the Western side and Japan's talent for exploring varied ideas and musical expression. I've never heard someone espouse something so silly as "Why do they have to be soooo varied?" FFVI, Chrono Trigger and Cross, anything by Yoko Kanno, OoT, these scores and countless others are so well-regarded because they successfully encompass such a wide swath of ideas, genres and emotions. Uematsu wouldn't have half his success and reputation if he stuck to all orchestral anthem, all the time, and is often touted as one of the most varied talents in the industry. Even Japan's penchant for fine orchestral work is born from heavy inspiration from the Western masters of the form. If all composers there believed in such narrow distinctions, you likely wouldn't have a Hirano, Oshima or Amano.

Meanwhile, your Skyrim's, LOTR games, Gears of Wars and what have you...well, I actually liked Skyrim, but the reason they all tend to have crap scores is because of exactly what you name: they're too focused on being "adequate" and "homogenous" and not interested enough in being musical or distinctive. Even if they could write for an orchestra worth a damn, if it's all the same thing, it's a repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired work of music(see Outcastyeah, I went there.) That's the problem with the West and Hollywood scores. Lest you forget, Grant Kirkhope, who wrote one the finest western scores in the business with Viva Pinata not too long ago, used to mix it up a lot too back in the day.

I was about to call your LOTR shot a terrible example because you need to learn what context means, but then I got to thinking "Why couldn't a techno score work for LOTR or any other fantasy story?" Who's to say it can't? You? Far weirder has happened, and more to the point, far weirder has worked. Praise God the rest of the scoring world doesn't operate under such narrow-minded ideas of what kind of music is appropriate and what isn't, or the world would be a far bleaker place.

Prog-rock and chanting in our epic fantasy rpgs? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrHCkD8R_84) Poppycock. Throw it out. Orchestra only because that's "appropriate" and orchestral = Better. Groovy, calm jazz? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URe6-6rEdV4) Nonsense. TECHNO?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc3yji0G84&feature=relmfu) Sacrilege. Replacing a formerly rigid jrpg ost formula with piannistic impressionism? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJJelAzE9R8) Balderdash. Jazz and counterculture exotica in a sci-fi tale about spacefaring bounty-hunters? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jCJZEFIto) Hip-hop beats in a samurai period piece? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqeY2mEfNMk&feature=related) GET OUT. You'll never work in this industry again.

How about the opposite tack, hm? How about if someone ever, say, wanted to write a heavily thematic, Western inspired orchestral score (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps4AwBM2TyE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL084B544E1B9FC960) for a space shooter, typically the domain of pulsing beats and melodic electronica? In your world, nope, throw it out. Not appropriate. A powerhouse tour-de-force for a silly action-platformer? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD7_b8w6ZOI) Surely you jest. Dignified orchestral anthems (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYXbMI8qFsU&feature=relmfu) or string ensembles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8_gS7tI3eE) in a puzzle game? Are you trying to get fired? This? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRNQov3PqlI&feature=relmfu) Or This? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HpyOkKWpCM) Jesus. One's SONIC THE HEDGEHOG and the other is...a plumber? Who eats mushrooms? The fu...Look, just churn out some easy poppy thing and quit bugging me, alright?

Hooray we don't have you, or any other single person, dictating what does or does not fall into arbitrary pidgeonholes of musical appropriateness.

Just to get back to the OCRemix project, I think people are fixating way too hard on whether it'll be something it clearly isn't, and whether it'll "do justice" to music now over fifteen years old and with a fair bit of nostalgia earmuffs around it. Far as I'm concerned, nothing is "too good" for reinterpretation, and pretending otherwise too easily leads to silly sacred cow mindsets and arguments. Just ask all those composers and conductors reworking and representing the great works of Mozart and Wagner to this day. Just take it for what it is.

But as long as we're talking impossible hypotheticals, my dream FFVI arrange project would still be four discs, the first two comprising a straight orchestral concert with Hamiguchi, Hirano, Hamauzu, Kanno and Valtonen on the team of orchestrators, with the last two discs providing plenty of room for some more genre-varied arrangements from GE-ON-DAN(who, in this ideal world, would not be sadly defunct) with free reign to be as wild and interpretive as they damn well please.

Oh, and people would stop fretting over whether it can do "proper justice" to the original and just take the music on it's own merits for whatever it chooses to do or set out to accomplish. Now there's an epic fantasy.

arthierr

07-15-2012, 04:20 AM

LMAO! Wow, where to start? I usually tend to give a long winded answer to such large, and let's admit, articulate post, but the overly arrogant, douchy tone (as usual, sigh), and the borderline comical statements and opinions expressed here and there force me to be brief and focus on a few critical points.

I'd say that I question, if not outright dismiss, the artistic tastes of anyone who uses the word "homogenous" as a positive. The word you're probably groping for is actually "consistent", but even then, I balk.

No, I wasn't "groping for consistent" (although it's also a good term). I did mean homogenEous, which, according to my dictionary, mean:

1) of the same or a similar kind or nature
2) of uniform structure or composition throughout

HOLY SHIT! Yeah, you really have to be a dumbshit to see THIS as positive! Seriously, I don't know what was going into your head when you said the above, but if you really do "question" or even "dismiss" the preference for homogeneity, please allow ME to question your good sense.

the Western world has fallen so far behind outside of indie circle, precisely because of strict, arbitrary adherence to archaic ideas of genre etiquette on the Western side... Meanwhile, your Skyrim's, LOTR games, Gears of Wars and what have you...well, I actually liked Skyrim, but the reason they all tend to have crap scores is because of exactly what you name: they're too focused on being "adequate" and "homogenous" and not interested enough in being musical or distinctive. Even if they could write for an orchestra worth a damn, if it's all the same thing, it's a repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired work of music(see Outcastyeah, I went there.) That's the problem with the West and Hollywood scores.
How to answer to this? To compose some appropriate, apt, pitch-perfect music exactly fitting the tone and scope of an universe / story, and not going into the obligatory, fashionable, youth-appealing pop / synth shitfest that plagues so many jap scores, is, to you, "archaic, repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired"? And using as an example the astounding, exceptionally inspired, brilliantly cohesive Outcast? Now, that's some balls.

I was about to call your LOTR shot a terrible example because you need to learn what context means, but then I got to thinking "Why couldn't a techno score work for LOTR or any other fantasy story?" Who's to say it can't? You? Far weirder has happened, and more to the point, far weirder has worked.
My favorite part.

1) I'm willing to learn! So please teach me "what context means", professor, and how this has ANYTHING to have with my LOTR being a terrible example (???). Because it *is* a terrible example to apply wacky j-pop to LOTR, right? Surrrrrre...

2) So basically, you're just saying, with utter seriousness, and not the slightest hesitation, that LOTR, according to you, can perfectly be scored with wacky j-pop or techno music, and that would not be a problem AT ALL. Is this what you really mean???

Listen, dude, let's stop a moment here. Frankly, I think your views and tastes are really too different from most views here. You seem to have forgotten where you are, because the word "orchestral" in the title does say a lot about the general orientation of this thread. Now don't get me wrong, it's not a problem at all to have and express dissonant (and sometimes weird) opinions... except when you absolutely try to impose them to others, and furthermore in an aggressive and dismissive manner. You will convince nobody, it's a sterile step, really. It's like going to a thread called "the cantankerous traditional sushis lovers" and trying to convince the folks there that industrial sushis are great and they're crazy, archaic fucktards to stick to their love of traditional sushis. Why not just let them love their traditional sushis peacefully?

At this point, I think we should just agree to disagree. You have your own opinions and tastes, some are concordant with this thread and some are clearly not. The best you can do, what would make the most sense, is to participate to this thread when your views are in harmony with it, and when they aren't, to just go to other places where they're more befitting. There has to be somewhere in the interwebs a place where j-pop or techno music are seen as the musical perfection to score a big fantasy epic / where homogeneity is seen as something negative, sorry, "archaic, repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired" / where tasteless, ill-considered stacking up of cheap, inappropriate musical genres to knock up a sickly mishmash of a score is seen as the summit of musical creativity. Good luck to find one.

TazerMonkey

07-15-2012, 04:23 AM

Well, you could have a look at the FF6-based final fantasy piano concerto that was performed as part of Symphonic Odysseys - several bootlegs have been floating around and should still be found on this site.

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Individual tracks, namely the opera, Terra's theme and Dancing Mad can also be found throughout the Distant Worlds CDs, though I find their arrangements absolutely boring.

The concerto is interesting (though not all of it is FFVI-based). And I agree that the Distant Worlds arrangements aren't the best (although I find Dancing Mad on Distant Worlds II to be the least offensive of the bunch); the opera, in particular, sounds like a pop orchestra arrangement, reducing the aria to what amounts to a soloist with piano accompaniment and negligible string backing. The opera arrangement from Orchestral Game Concert IV is far superior, IMO.

arthierr

07-15-2012, 04:40 AM

And now, to answer popular demand, I upload for you...

Final Fantasy VI: Grand Finale

Free File Hosting - Online Storage; Upload Mp3, Videos, Music. Backup Files (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/363233617/1994_-_Final_Fantasy_VI_Grand_Finale.rar.html)

Unfortunately, while it is in 320 kbps, I haven't the slightest idea how FLAC works, so I have no FLAC link here. I apologize in advance.

Come on, how can you apologize when you post something that great and in excellent quality? Thank you very much! :)

I just recommend adding a cover to complete your post, and it'll be perfect. ;)

Akashi San

07-15-2012, 04:40 AM

Le Chevalier D'Eon Soundtrack[Split FLAC tracks from the original APE file/Cue/Log]

http://item.shopping.c.yimg.jp/i/j/felista_00000680925

Album Information: VGMDB (http://vgmdb.net/album/22514)

I'm sorry if this has already been uploaded. I thought this thread needs some more Michiru Ooshima. :D
Credit goes to the original uploader.

Part I (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?pfk0pf6a8ydfd66), Part II (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?67c0dxdcwek7xkb), Part III (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yr9we4bsyst52tf)

Taikou Risshiden[Split APE tracks/Cue/No log]

Album Information: VGMDB (http://vgmdb.net/album/811)

I believe this is one of Ooshima's earlier works. The soundtrack isn't really orchestral unlike her usual albums, but I really like the pleasant melodies.

Credit goes to momo@ASTOST

Part I (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?emg0pa6aqs9vn77), Part II (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2l3l6yvzru2gfz7)

Enjoy! :D

NaotaM

07-15-2012, 05:41 AM

No, I wasn't "groping for consistent" (although it's also a good term). I did mean homogenEous, which, according to my dictionary, mean:

1) of the same or a similar kind or nature
2) of uniform structure or composition throughout

HOLY SHIT! Yeah, you really have to be a dumbshit to see THIS as positive! Seriously, I don't know what was going into your head when you said the above, but if you really do "question" or even "dismiss" the preference for homogeneity, please allow ME to question your good sense.

Right. The same. Exactly alike. Never deviating. Commonly used as a derogative, ie; "mass-produced", "checking off the bulletpoints." Gotta say, never heard anyone say "all of X is the same, therefore, X is good" unless they're trying to meet a business quota. Least of all in music.

Which is why "It may be crap but at least it's all the same crap" makes little sense.

How to answer to this? To compose some appropriate, apt, pitch-perfect music exactly fitting the tone and scope of an universe / story, and not going into the obligatory, fashionable, youth-appealing pop / synth shitfest that plagues so many jap scores, is, to you, "archaic, repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired"? And using as an example the astounding, exceptionally inspired, brilliantly cohesive Outcast? Now, that's some balls.

"Fashionable". "Youth-appealing." I'm not even gonna bother here, cause nothing anyone could say will convince you that Go Shiina isn't some ludicrous marketing vehicle due to return to his home planet any day now, and all you ever do is talk past me, anyway. Get over it.

My favorite part.

1) I'm willing to learn! So please teach me "what context means", professor, and how this has ANYTHING to have with my LOTR being a terrible example (???). Because it *is* a terrible example to apply wacky j-pop to LOTR, right? Surrrrrre...

2) So basically, you're just saying, with utter seriousness, and not the slightest hesitation, that LOTR, according to you, can perfectly be scored with wacky j-pop or techno music, and that would not be a problem AT ALL. Is this what you really mean???

You have repeatedly proven yourself chronically unable to grasp the context of statements, yes, but I was also referencing the context of music applied to subject material.

Examples of both can be seen above. You ignore the context of my position that any and all kinds of music can be written for any kind of medium by immediately and repeatedly going to the ridiculous strawman, "Oh, well would Lord of the Rings sound good with J-POP?! How laughable WINK CONDESCENDING EMOTICON BS ABOUT ARTISTIC TASTES!!!" Noone's ever said that and you know it. Don't be an idiot. My point, as I clarified above with EXAMPLES, is that while not all music can make a great score, a great score can come from any kind of music. LOTR would sound awful with J-Pop or techno, but who's to say techno or pop couldn't make a good fantasy score? I believe Escaflowne had some catchy numbers throughout. Secret of Mana made a complete left turn from the cliched orchestral formulas of the day for jrpgs and went on to become one of the finest and most lauded scores in video games. Fucking NIER, people.

Japan proves nearly every other week that the classical orchestra can thrive in areas it wouldn't typically be thought of, either, from from cash-in movies for toy-pushing vehicles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0pQnwV3gGI) to laughably dumb tokusatsu parodies, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz32ws6JHLw) and that last one had a fair bot of pop, too. But oh right, that genre's too "cheap."

Your narrow-minded genre bias has no place in dictating what's appropriate for what subject matter and what isn't, and you should be the very last person to do so. And no, the fact that "your" thread is called "THE BIG ORCHESTRAL ACTION MUSIC THREAD" does not shield your ridiculous statements from being called out.

Listen, dude, let's stop a moment here. Frankly, I think your views and tastes are really too different from most views here. You seem to have forgotten where you are, because the word "orchestral" in the title does say a lot about the general orientation of this thread. Now don't get me wrong, it's not a problem at all to have and express dissonant (and sometimes weird) opinions... except when you absolutely try to impose them to others, and furthermore in an aggressive and dismissive manner. You will convince nobody, it's a sterile step, really. It's like going to a thread called "the cantankerous traditional sushis lovers" and trying to convince the folks there that industrial sushis are great and they're crazy, archaic fucktards to stick to their love of traditional sushis. Why not just let them love their traditional sushis peacefully?

At this point, I think we should just agree to disagree. You have your own opinions and tastes, some are concordant with this thread and some are clearly not. The best you can do, what would make the most sense, is to participate to this thread when your views are in harmony with it, and when they aren't, to just go to other places where they're more befitting. There has to be somewhere in the interwebs a place where j-pop or techno music are seen as the musical perfection to score a big fantasy epic / where homogeneity is seen as something negative, sorry, "archaic, repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired" / where tasteless, ill-considered stacking up of cheap, inappropriate musical genres to knock up a sickly mishmash of a score is seen as the summit of musical creativity. Good luck to find one.

Luckily, I don't really give a shit what you think, and have very much remembered that this is a discussion thread where different views and ideas are to be welcomed instead of shuffled out in favor of thread consensus, which I've rarely agreed with anyway and don't suspect I will anytime soon, least of all when that consensus doesn't actually exist and you're falsely trying to expand your views to the entire thread. Like now, for instance. You speak for nobody but yourself, arthierr, and until others say otherwise, the views I take umbrage with are yours alone. The thread at large has nothing to do with this, but since you're so convinced, try starting your next thread in an echo chamber, maybe? Perhaps one day, I'll stop being too smart, stop caring too much about music and your posts will stop carrying such pure, concentrated UGH that I can allow them to go unchallenged, as you do in discussionOH WAIT. But until then, I think I'll keep on enjoying this thread and the great music within. I suggest you learn to deal with that.

"except when you absolutely try to impose them to others, and furthermore in an aggressive and dismissive manner." Oh, and excuse me, I'm not the one putting words in people's mouths and making blatant attacks on the "artistic tastes" of others just for liking the kinds of music you don't. Get over yourself.

There has to be somewhere in the interwebs a place where j-pop or techno music are seen as the musical perfection to score a big fantasy epic / where homogeneity is seen as something negative, sorry, "archaic, repetitive, exhaustive, uninspired" / where tasteless, ill-considered stacking up of cheap, inappropriate musical genres to knock up a sickly mishmash of a score is seen as the summit of musical creativity.

It's called "everywhere else." Which is my favorite part, cause I already know how much that burns your ass.

IHateThatHedgehog

07-15-2012, 07:45 AM

Come on, how can you apologize when you post something that great and in excellent quality? Thank you very much!

I just recommend adding a cover to complete your post, and it'll be perfect.

Well, see, I tried adding a picture, but apparently it didn't work. Go figure. *shrug* Otherwise, you're quite welcome!

streichorchester

07-15-2012, 07:46 AM

I'm an orchestra-only guy, for the most part, but I always love when James Horner goes beyond the orchestra and utterly blows away all those Remote Control composers at their own game. Avatar, Spider-Man, Karate Kid, etc. and even his lesser known works like Apocalypto, The Forgotten, Beyond Borders, etc. I think "genre-bending" in film and game music only works in the hands of a capable composer, like Horner or Uematsu. LOTR might have worked with synths with a talented composer behind the wheel, otherwise you have gotten, I don't know, something akin to Ladyhawke.

NaotaM

07-15-2012, 07:55 AM

arthierr

07-15-2012, 03:32 PM

I should obviously clarify something, which I didn't get to say because SOME PEOPLE have this sick habit of being compulsively brash and rude, which gets me mad and drags the discussion towards negativity. So let's imagine that I previously got to discuss with someone normal, mature, polite and respectful, here's what I would have said (after that, this discussion is finished for me, since I find it mostly pointless from the very befinning anyway).

Of course I also love a certain amount of diversity and fusion of genres. I occasionally listen to popular forms of music, and I notoriously tend to enjoy the mix of modern elements with traditional orchestral techniques, when it's WELL DONE (get lost, Rob Dougan). And anybody who knows me since long enough know that I'm in no way an orchestral extremist that won't allow any other musical styles in their scores (even though I prefer by far the orchestral approach).

BUT, you can't obviously use any musical genre in any setting. Some are more appropriate while some others are clearly not: for instance a light, piano based, urban jazz score would sound great in a modern comedy, but it would be catastrophic in, say Lair (but interestingly enough, serious symphonic music often works very well in comedies, see most ZAZ movies, among others). Even if you're very talented, even if you're Horner, you shouldn't use light jazz in an epic fantasy setting, that would be too much of a stretch to work, and would sound misplaced and tasteless.

And please don't come up with "yeah, but all is relative, all is a matter of personal taste, if you like boogie-woogie in an historical epic it's perfectly legit as long as you like it, etc." Well, no. I don't think so because art isn't only subjective, it also has an objective side. It would be WAY too long to tackle this subject (which suppose knowledge of artforms but also of neurobiology), so I don't intend to do it (but some aspects have already been discussed in this thread anyway), but you now get the idea why I think there is good art and bad art, good taste and bad taste, things that work and some that don't in art. You can accept it or not, but that's YOUR problem. Mozart's music doesn't need your approval to be great.

tangotreats

07-15-2012, 04:24 PM

There are two different threads of thought going on here. Let's think about Ladyhawke. I love the score, I really really love it. It's great. But it's a supremely poor choice for the film. It evokes a very specific era which is totally at odds with the setting of the film. It doesn't belong. Symphonic music in films, on the other hand, has a somewhat timeless quality - which is ironic since the seeds that grew into what we understand today to mean "orchestral film music" were planted hundreds of years ago. It's just one of those things; the modern orchestra is a versatile instrument; it's a sound that is equally appropriate in a comedy, a sci-fi epic, a historical period piece, a sloppy romance, an action thriller, or a murder mystery. The sound of an orchestra has a dramatic presence which no other genre or intrumental combination of music can match.

So, let's imagine a really, really skilled composer scored Lord Of The Rings, but did so with 1940s swing, a solo rapper, a plainchant chorus, and a moog synthesiser. I'm willing to bet that the right musician would do incredible things with that unlikely group. I'd love to hear this score. If it was good from a musical perspective, I'm sure I'd really enjoy it. It may very well turn out to be the best piece of music ever written, from a compositional perspective. BUT, I still think it would stick out like a sore thumb in Lord Of The Rings. I think most, if not all, film music aficionados would concur with that statement. If they don't, I'm sure they would be able to register their opposition without resorting to rudeness.

It's the exact same argument that would preclude a director from casting, say, Patrick Stewart to play Martin Luther King, or Morgan Freeman to play a penniless 14 year-old girl struggling to care for her six month old daughter in the remote countryside of Singapore. They're very, very fine actors - so why not??? I'm sure Stewart would do a powerful and inspirational portrayal of King. I'm sure Freeman would get right inside the mind of that poor girl and his performance would be sensitive, passionate, and tear-jerking. Why not score the King movie with a Ukelele quintet, and the Eastern human tragedy with death metal? Great actors, great composer writing the score, what could possibly go wrong? Well, I'm sure that's obvious.

arthierr

07-15-2012, 05:08 PM

AAAAAAHHHH, at last some good sense, some trenchant yet accurate analysis, and formulated in a polite AND brillant way! THIS looks more like the Orchestral Thread!

So I have indeed to precise this point you very pertinently bring up: there's indeed a big difference between the quality of the music in itself, and the congruity of it with a certain setting. Absolutely correct, you can have some wonderful music that doesn't match at all a context, and conversely some terrible music which fits it like a glove (many RC action scores fall into this category).

Perhaps I didn't insist enough on this, and you rightfully remind me to do it now. My point was indeed mostly about how some music is adapted or not to some contexts, but didn't really concerned the intrinsical quality of it. Perhaps Uematsu wrote some superb ragtime pieces in FFVI, I don't really know since I'm not interested in this musical style, but I do think that such a typical style of music has nothing to do in a big epic fantasy.

Sirusjr

07-15-2012, 06:46 PM

Tango made a wonderful point. Many instruments that were considered hip or modern in the 80s are now considered dated. Same thing can be said for many modern styles of scoring in the 90s. Does it sound good during the decade when it is written? Maybe, to some people. If you go back and watch the film 30 or 40 years later do you recognize the music as a representation of the time period in which the film was made? Perhaps, but perhaps you just sigh and the sounds you hear take you out of the film.

Many orchestral styles and even interesting uses of organic instruments such as Jerry Goldsmith used for westerns tend to have a certain feel to them that evoke the spirit and the setting of the film over the time period and these are the scores that are endearing parts of the films when you watch them years later. Any classic film with a big orchestral score tends to sound good when you watch the film years later. The same thing can't be always said for the use of certain songs or certain hip styles that fit the times. Many 80s scores that used synthesizers that were big at the time were probably not a very good fit to the film then and to modern audiences are even worse fit for the film now.

As much as many of us in this thread are constantly looking for the sort of music that we are interested in listening to separate from the film, it often fits the movie and holds up when the movie ages. That is the benefit of quality scoring.

TazerMonkey

07-15-2012, 07:48 PM

I'll have something up in a bit we can spar over...

tangotreats

07-15-2012, 07:51 PM

I look forward to it immensely. :D

TazerMonkey

07-15-2012, 09:22 PM

JOEL GOLDSMITH
KULL THE CONQUEROR
Orchestrated and conducted by Nicholas Dodd
FLAC | 18 Tracks | 274.09 MB

Kull The Conqueror is a real guilty pleasure of mine - you're probably all expecting me to hate it because it has a beat, but taken on its own merits, it's a shed-load of fun and has enough of that Goldsmith vibe to keep my mind interested.

I think this obviously ties into our timeless "orchestra vs. everything else" debate as a hybrid between large orchestral and choral forces and heavy metal. I happen to enjoy both styles and had been curious to listen to this for some time, but the, shall we say, caliber of the film was long a deterrent, as admittedly (and unfortunately) was the fact that this was the work of Goldsmith the Younger, about whom I knew very little.

Now, I have not and never will see the film, but it's interesting to note that the Kull stories are tangentially tied to the Conan the Barbarian universe via their mutual author, Robert E. Howard, and actually the story of this film began as an adaptation of Howard's Conan story "The Hour of the Dragon" in what would have been the third Schwarzenegger Conan film, to be called King Conan. It is not therefore a large stretch to infer that the story involves the same muscular, sword-and-sorcery style of fantasy that infused earlier adaptations of Howard's work, including the original Milius film and Basil Poledouris's score.

It would be criminally unfair to hold Joel Goldsmith's Kull to the same lofty standard as Poledouris's Conan, which is truly one of the great scores of the 1980s, the fantasy genre, and even film music as a whole. I also think we can all agree that Poledouris managed to convey the brutality, tragedy, and spirit of adventure perfectly well via the symphony orchestra. Conan's score has stood the test of time for over 30 years now and will continue to do so.

But let's get back to Kull. The majority of the palette employed by Joel Goldsmith IS an orchestral one, but when the action heats up a metal band joins the fray, as per the instructions of the film's director and a temp track that featured Metallica songs. Kull is not a masterwork, but Joel Goldsmith is also no slouch either. There is good, if not truly inspired, music here, and the orchestral writing is big enough and propulsive enough that, when the metal band joins in, the character of the music may be different but the underlying tone and intensity are not. This is bad-ass orchestral music fused with bad-ass metal in probably as organic a fashion as is possible. It is over-the-top, gloriously so; if I may be so bold, I think that in its own way this does share the joie de vivre that infused the swashbucklers of old, even if it stops shy of their musical acumen.

Would the score have been better had Joel Goldsmith remained entirely in the orchestral idiom? I don't know. I will say that I wasn't a huge fan of Moon 44, but that could very well be due to the poor quality of the recording as I heard it; his Stargate scores are still a mystery to me. And then there's the film itself to consider, which by all accounts is a total dud. But I do think that the fusion of metal into Kull's music gives it a sensibility that allows it to survive outside of its terrible film in a way that a purely orchestral score would not. The inappropriateness of the metal embraces the cheesiness of the film but doesn't require you to endure the terrible characters and dialogue, allowing you to just go along for the ride. I mean, c'mon, "Ship Brawl" is a cross between a Baroque fanfare and metal! It is glam fantasy to Poledouris's fire and iron. It is more Masters of the Universe than Star Wars. And it's fun as hell.

I've uploaded this for anyone who, like myself until just after Joel's passing, has not heard it before, and also anyone who'd like to hear it again or needs an upgrade.

PM me for link.

JBarron2005

07-15-2012, 09:45 PM

Speaking of Horner, I loved his score to Willow.The main theme is just so well written that it seems almost a sin to listen to it ;).

tangotreats

07-15-2012, 09:59 PM

Absolutely. Schumann should be very proud. ;)

TazerMonkey

07-15-2012, 10:28 PM

Perhaps Uematsu wrote some superb ragtime pieces in FFVI, I don't really know since I'm not interested in this musical style, but I do think that such a typical style of music has nothing to do in a big epic fantasy.

I don't know; Scott Joplin has a certain ring to it... Lord of the Rings part 1 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/mKDHx28i_2Y) ;)

arthierr

07-15-2012, 11:09 PM

LOL, very nice find! ;)

About Kull: excellent and well written post. The music is also very pertinent to the recent discussion, because I remember the little uproar provoked by the metal elements in some scoring communities when that album was released. Some people had no problem with it, but some almost considered it as an outrage to the traditional orchestral style. While Conan only just escaped to be scored with a full fledged pop score (thanks to the insistence of John Milius who wanted a purely symphonic approach), it seems Kull ended up being a fusion of these two approaches.

Personally, I've got no problem with this musically, I enjoy this score, and the metal enhancements really give a powerful boost to an already robust orchestral score (we can all thank Nick Dodd for his high-level contributions, as usual). Yes, adding metal *is* voguish, crowd-pleasing, hip and stuff, and it sounds a little weird in such setting, but behind this oddness, there is happily a real big epic symphonic score, which, if not exceptional, is nonetheless perfectly serviceable for the movie.

Thanks for posting!

Le Chevalier D'Eon Soundtrack[Split FLAC tracks from the original APE file/Cue/Log]

I thought this thread needs some more Michiru Ooshima. :D

And you thought well. ;) We can take all the Oshima you have, thanks a lot!

NaotaM

07-16-2012, 12:27 AM

The closest modern epitome of this clash of ideas I can recall is the Castlevania series. Much ado was made in the VGM community about the move to Hollywood style orchestral stylings with new composer Oscar Aruajo. Naturally, reactions were mixed. Some fans hated the move with a passion, and others defended the integrity of the change, (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/castlevania-timeless-classic-or-retro-goggled-nostalgia-editorial/#more-11853) insisting that not only was it a bold move, but that it was the shot in the arm the Castlevania series needed and was far more fitting to the series than anything that came before.

Obviously I lie in the former camp, mostly just because Aruajo's score was a dreary, cliched bore, and I certainly challenge the notion it's what the series should've had all along, but the fact remains it was a bold move worth trying and it is a perfectly apt, appropriate choice for the sort of game Lords of Shadow was. But I disagree entirely with the notion that "dark orchestra" is the only sound appropriate for Castlevania, not at all.

The argument in the linked article is that the older classics like Vampire Killer were flawed because little about them speaks to the dark, spooky tone of the games. Perhaps, but the Mario theme is one of the most recognizable pieces of music in history, and if by some cruel joke of fortune you didn't know what Mario was about, what mental image would you conjure up were I to ask to describe the type of music that would be "appropriate" for a tiny, fat plumber who hops over turtles through a land of sentient fungi to save the princess?

Probably Frank Zappa or some shit, right? I can guarantee a bouncy, calypso-inspired jaunt would be the furthest thing from your mind, because as time has proven, it just works. It's iconic, it's catchy, it sticks in your head and won't get out. And Mario's just a bunch of nonsense anyway, so turns out it is plenty apt, after all.

Same with Castlevania. Perhaps it doesn't scream "spoookyscaaary", but were any of those games ever truly terrifying works of macabre atmosphere? No, they were simple action-platformers with an honestly pretty hokey veneer of Hammer Horror trappings for flavor. The music was punchy and groovy and it fit cause you were hopping around killing bats and medusa heads with a goddamn whip. To lip things for a bit, does Aruajo's music really do that much to inform the listener of the nature of the game or story? Does it really sound at all that unique or seperate from any other given Western game score, enough to really convey the spirit of Castlevania?

As the series aged, the musical stylings branched out and matured with it, encompassing everything from cheesy rock to Yamane's brilliant and mature work on Symphony of the Night, and with rare exception was perfectly suited to the areas used and the general tone of each game. Even when playing with ideas that honestly should be pretty embarrassing or dated. Fucking listen to this shit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xi2xtLNyFo) It's so cheap and synthy, oh god. The drums. Jesus Christ, the drums are so cheesy. Listen to that guitar, holy shit. XD It sounds like if you pushed your speakers more than halfway, they'd blow themselves apart as Cthulu's baby birthes itself into your living room through the mesh. And dear God, I love the hell out of it. It should be such absolute crud, but nostalgia earmuffs be damned, it just works. It makes me bob my head and drum my computer desk and get fucking pumped to kill some fucking bats goddamn.

I wish Aruajo all the luck in the world with the next two LoS installments, his style is certainly suited to what the series is trying to accomplish now,but his work illustrates rather succinctly my preference for experimental genre-bending to sticking with symphony orchestra for little reason other than cliche ideas of what applies to what, nor is his style the only kind that could possibly work with the franchise. Anime and film series switch music directors and composers between installments all the time to wildly different yet equally scrumptious results. If you're gonna reach for the symphony orchestra, don't just do it because that's just the typical form for whatever it is you're writing because of unspoken cliches of genre-etiquette. That's a lot of the problem with Hollywood today, ain't it? Go for the orchestra because you genuinely have big passionate ideas that no other form of music can match and MAKE THAT SHIT SING.

And even genre-bending requires careful attention to subject matter.

Perhaps Uematsu wrote some superb ragtime pieces in FFVI, I don't really know since I'm not interested in this musical style, but I do think that such a typical style of music has nothing to do in a big epic fantasy.

Again, it's all about context. That's certainly a salient belief to hold, perhaps in another score I would agree, but, like...have you played it? Uematsu wasn't just slinging genres around at random, dude. The ragtime bits play in jaunty pubs and auction houses where fat fattyfat bourgeois dudes make exorbitant bids on rare items and easter eggs, and I'd rather take that over the eighteen billionth regurgitation of Ren Fair string plucking that saturates such scenarios in nearly every western rpg to date. Downtempo beatnik jazz only plays in the exploited, overmined mountain town where the game begins. The ethnic percussion? In a literal savannah. Each weird experiment was tremendously appropriate for the given situations it was written for, each one with express and exact purpose. You can't blast epic symphony orchestras when you're just chilling in town or traversing the fields. That opera music occurs in one place and one place only; the opera house. Genesis of Aquarion is lauded as a masterpiece for good reason, but in-show, its use was often so blunt and inappropriate it overpowered nearly every scene. Context. It's a curious thing in that it is both extremely important and woefully overrated. I understand this is easy to miss, as I imagine many of us will never actually play or watch many of the things these soundtracks accompany, I don't either just through the sheer magnitude of music I consume. But then, this isn't really a problem for me.

I feel I should acknowledge that there IS a difference between just throwing whatever odd fusions and ideas you want into whatever you want and being varied and genre-unspecific while still maintaining a sense of thematic and musical consistency and unity. Yoko Kanno is the undisputed Queen of this, and Iwasaki was the King before he unfortunately fell into the same handful of habits and idioms. His Trinity Soul OST is a perfect example of a score that runs the gamut of opera, symphony orchestra, synthetic orchestra, Celtic vocals, grungy rock, even rap in places, and yet each track just continually builds and builds upon this overall atmosphere of dread, foreboding and creeping darkness that exuberantly exemplifies the soundtrack and the subject matter it accompanies. Uematsu's FFIX is well-known for accomplishing this in spades. I don't personally believe any of the music is actually good, but it does manage an aural symmetry despite its wild variance, a difficult feat that deserves applause. And since it needs stating, FFVI is an epic fantasy, yes. An epic fantasy including wacky, derpy yetis, an evil jester that makes self-help book jokes, magical machine soldiers, a ghost train that can be suplexed to re-death, and a lascivious talking octopus that hates opera, lightning and meatheads like you. LOTR, this aint. I think a little leeway can be afforded there.

Know what else is an epic fantasy? Breath of Fire III. That had plenty of laid-back jazz, which worked because the game itself was lighthearted and colorful. Would it be an awfu choice for Lair? Of course. Not all genre fiction is created equal. Sure, a substandard composer could've easily just pulled out the orchestra again, just dial it down to a lighter key and break out the trilling strings and pretty bells, and maybe that would've worked, but the choice they made stands out so much more. How did grand symphony orchestra work in Mario or Sonic? It would be woefully inappropriate in Mario Bros. or Sonic the Hedgehog 2(although who can say?) But in Galaxy and Colors? It fits perfectly with the expanded scope of the games' trappings and story. Fanciful adventure through deep space? Hell yes, throw some Star Wars on that shit. And the key thing to notice here is that none of these choices-yes, even orchestra- are immediately obvious, which makes them stand out and weather the test of time to avoid becoming dated all the more. It's always of utmost importance to conider what fits the scope and story, but open your mind a lil and you'll find more things can fit into a given story or film idea than you initially thought. Just look at Kull.

Akashi San

07-17-2012, 03:21 AM

After perusing this thread for hours (about 100 pages out of 400), I really want to thank all of you for the wonderful music in here. I have one quick question for any Gundam music expert here: since there seem to be too many Gundam-related symphony albums, what do you guys recommend as a good starting album for a noob like me? :P I have listened to Gundam Age Soundtrack 1 and I absolutely love it.

JBarron2005

07-17-2012, 05:19 AM

bk7530,

I would start with the 30th Anniversary Gundam Symphony by Toshihiko Sahashi or any Gundam music by Sahashi for that matter. He was behind both symphony albums for SEED and Destiny which are both top-notch. Also, Yoko Kanno's contributions to Turn-A-Gundam are also satisfying but Sahashi's music is certainly the best out of all, imo. You can find those albums in Siriusjr's thread here: Thread 72009

Herr Salat

07-17-2012, 09:02 AM

NaotaM

07-17-2012, 09:59 AM

Clear Victory to...Victory Gundam? :-P

Gundam Seed/Seed Destiny and Turn A Gundam are probably the answer, but I remember Tango also loving Akira Senju's score for Victory Gundam.

Tons of thanks for all the links.

For my part, those are probably the very best places to start if you're interested in symphonic Gundam goodness, though I'd personally put Gundam Symphony over the Seed concerts. Also not sure if I'd quicker recommend the Turn A concert or just the OST's themselves. They are purely orchestral, yes, but they pare a lot of good material, the pieces themselves are barely different from their original incarnations-more to the point, the performances themselves aren't the best in the world- there's only one new piece, thought it's a doozy;Spirit of Place; and you get a ton of more awesome music for the trouble with the soundtracks, so it's really a tossup.

After War is a masterpiece and nearly all symphonic, so try that, too.

Herr Salat

07-17-2012, 10:39 AM

Found some Taro Iwashiro MP3 folders on MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/?429udzptri7cz) and 4shared (http://www.4shared.com/dir/2tNITmYk/Taro_Iwashiro.html) (free registration needed for downloading) :o

NaotaM

07-17-2012, 11:48 AM

Wow, you tapped into a veritable goldmine. Jesus. Many, many thanks, dude.

Vinphonic

07-17-2012, 12:14 PM

Sakura Wars: Part IV

Finally, it's been a while.

Sakura Wars 4: Final Chapter

Download (mp3 V0) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/13I88YOS/Sakura_Wars_4.zip_links)

Sakura Wars: The Motion Picture

Download (mp3 V0) (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0JP3JMUK/Sakura_Wars_-_The_Motion_Picture.zip_links)

So what do you do when two groups of characters from different games of the same franchise meet? You combine their themes of course!
Drama! ~Final Chapter~ is the combination of Go! Imperial Flower Assault Unit and Under the Imperial Flag. The rest is a fine score with some great orchestral tracks but overall not as strong as the previous games. My guess is that the final chapter uses music from the whole franchise and here we have the only tracks exclusiv for this game. It would explain the lack of a proper soundtrack. Still, tracks like Sakura Nation, Epilogue and Wonderful stage give a nice feeling of closure.
For the movie Tanaka recorded the music with a much larger orchestra and it really rocks your socks of. Grand, symphonic and the perfect closure to the franchise. Old themes are revised with new splendour and woven into a cohesive motion picture score. The final renditions of the opening theme in Counterattack and Ending are simply fantastic. And don't forget the movie version of Miracle Bells, now that's how you end it with a bang. Now with better english tags.

So that's Kouhei Tanaka's Sakura Wars (for now). One of his very best. But there is still some music missing. These two scores are not in my collection and a huge pain in the ass to find: Sakura Wars ~Gouka Kenran~ Hikari Rokuonkan (http://vgmdb.net/album/11944) (Part I) and Sakura Wars OVA ~�cole de Paris~ Light Recording Hall (http://vgmdb.net/album/18057) (Part III).

The End?

Herr Salat

07-17-2012, 12:40 PM

boekarest

07-17-2012, 02:09 PM

Thanks a lot for this. Big surprise for me and I like it very much. Thnks for using Mediafire!

JBarron2005

07-17-2012, 04:39 PM

Wow! I wish I had found the V Gundam Symphony album sooner! It doesn't surpass Sahashi's contributions, imo, but it does hold a solid second! Thanks for sharing Herr Salat!

Akashi San

07-17-2012, 05:26 PM

Thank you for the suggestions, Herr Salat and JBarron. I'm gonna check out the soundtracks for V Gundam first since I adore Senju. :D

JBarron2005

07-17-2012, 06:43 PM

I had come across a very informative series of videos and blog entries concerning Bear McCreary's process on his score to the television series "The Walking Dead". I like how he gives detailed insight as to the process and the meaning of the pieces. I wish more composers would do this as it helps me imagine the music in a different light.

The first video and entry can be found here: Bear McCreary – Official site (http://www.bearmccreary.com/#blog/the-walking-dead/the-walking-dead-days-gone-bye/). I hope this spawns some interesting discussion ;).

Herr Salat

07-18-2012, 12:19 AM

Herr Salat

07-18-2012, 10:43 AM

yepsa

07-18-2012, 05:26 PM

Sakura Wars: Part IV
Finally, it's been a while.
Sakura Wars: The Motion Picture

Thanks for Sakura Wars 4 Final Chapter. It might be my location (Pluto) but none of the mirrors seem to be working for Sakura Wars: the Motion Picture.

tangotreats

07-18-2012, 05:45 PM

Here are some new mirrors for The Motion Picture. :)

Jumbofiles: http://jumbofiles.com/2ryzi4fzz3tr
Gamefront: http://www.gamefront.com/files/22003164/Sakura_Wars_-_The_Motion_Picture.7z
Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/?r93ra7zlnfor25m

HansBadelt

07-18-2012, 07:25 PM

New Yoshihisa Hirano?

Yoshihisa Hirano - Hunter X Hunter Original Soundtrack 2

Tracklist

01 Requiem Aranea
02 Gyakujuuji no Otoko
03 The Mad Bailaor
04 Kusari Yarou
05 Latent Power
06 No no Haru
07 Ansatsu Ikka no Yakata
08 Try Your Luck
09 Realized Capacity
10 Iai no Kyoujin
11 Kinpatsu no Gankou
12 Kumo no Canzone
13 Donkies
14 La Valse de Garcons
15 Take a Walk
16 Dr. Warm-Hearted Miser
17 Death Agony
18 Auras
19 Innocence of Assassin
20 Go on!
21 TO-MO-DA-CHI
22 Konjou Dashite!
23 Sono Kyoukan, Ryoryoku Zetsurin
24 Dirge from Dark Side
25 Departure for Strings
26 Go on, Gon!
27 departure!-second version- [TV Size] (Opening Theme)
28 HUNTING FOR YOUR DREAM [TV Size] (Ending theme)

Link:
JumboFiles.com - Dedicated Hosting (http://jumbofiles.com/kqz7sc5a3wlt)

Credits to:
animeost.info

It's mp3 version. For FLAC, please head over to the website above.
Note: Please delete "_" (the underscore without quotation mark) on the file name to make the file works... >.<

Herr Salat

07-18-2012, 07:33 PM

Vinphonic

07-18-2012, 10:28 PM

Wow. What a year so far. Yet another great soundtrack. Can't wait to hear what the second half has in store.

Lens of Truth

07-19-2012, 10:06 PM

Thanks for all the continuing great posts! As soon as I'm back in the zone I should have a few things to contribute. In the meantime, new links for Tchaikovsky's complete ballets:

TCHAIKOVSKY - THE SLEEPING BEAUTY
Mikhail Pletnev, Russian National Orchestra

MP3-V0 + Scans
Disc 1: TchSB.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?5umz3efjgfq56al)
Disc 2: TchSB.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?9do9md1gha65jnv)

Gramophone:

Given the total engagement in every bar of this recording, especially the vivid and varied characterisation, one is left wondering why there appeared to be less of it in this team's DG cycle of the Tchaikovsky symphonies. That Pletnev knows and loves this score was already obvious from his own piano arrangements of parts of it, and their recordings. And if ever proof was needed of the pianist's ability to transfer completely intact to the orchestra his own special brand of fantasy and superfine articulacy, this is it. Hardly a minute passes without one's ear being enchanted by an affective gesture of the utmost precision, poise and sensitivity (all the various solos are superbly done); and significantly, the now-familiar Pletnev ideal of the tactfully and revealingly balanced tutti does not result in anticlimax, as it did in some of the symphonies.

If you need convincing, try the last ten minutes of Act 2 - a symphonic impression of the 100year sleep, owing not a little to Wagner in its methods and to something of the magical workings of Tchaikovsky's own sea music for The Tempest - and ask yourself if you have ever heard it as atmospherically shaded; the subtle glints of Tchaikovsky's wonderful orchestration as well caught; or the transition from static contemplation, through the kiss, to genuinely joyful activity, as well-gauged. A very special combination of all the right choices made as regards dynamics, tempo and differentiation of mood and, like so much else in this performance, a scene whose potential I cannot recall having been as fully realized as it is here.

The DG sound for Pletnev is as vibrant as you could wish, with deep perspectives and a superbly managed ambience. The 'magical' scenes are bathed in the appropriate enchanted halo, yet the textures kept clear in the active, louder sections of the score. It is a fractionally more brilliant sound than DG supplied in the symphonies (at last, the timpani are fully in focus!) and if the cellos are occasionally obviously spotlit and the violins inclined to a very slight steeliness in their upper reaches (their lower 'chest' voices are as glorious as ever), there is no denying the expert matching of tone and body of these divided fiddles (the score abounds in antiphonal exchanges for them). Not an easy task with half of them pointing in a different direction. I suppose that if you are going to divide your first and second violin desks, the ideal would be to have a group of seconds who were all left-handed!

TCHAIKOVSKY - SWAN LAKE
Charles Dutoit, Montr�al Symphony Orchestra

MP3-V0 + Scans
TchSL.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?8ksbw1ujbep8ubs)
TchSL.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?7ic2aa0bu2amcv3)

From the Gramophone review:

The Montreal performance is in every way recommendable. The very opening sets the seal on Dutoit's approach and the aptness of his pacing, with the warm introduction leading through a perfectly managed accelerando to the Allegro giusto, and elsewhere the tempo relationships maintain the structural flow of Tchaikovsky's four carefully conceived sections, almost like the four movements of a ballet-symphony, with a distinct key structure. Yet Dutoit revels in the imaginative orchestral colour and the diversity of the individual sections of the "Pas de deux", "Pas de trois", "Pas de six" and the famous "Danses de cygnes". It is above all a romantic reading, and rises to the occasion, appropriately reaching its peak in the great final scene, where the Swan theme is giving its frisson-creating transformation at the B major climax. Here the resplendent Decca recording is wonderfully expansive, and throughout the glowing St Eustache acoustic adds much to the beauty of the sound. There is an excellent introduction on the work's history from Noel Goodwin and John Warrack's exemplary synopsis not only relates the narrative to the music, number by number, but tells us about the composer's self-borrowings from his operas Undine and The Voyevoda. I would now regard Dutoit as a clear first choice.

TCHAIKOVSKY - THE NUTCRACKER
Valery Gergiev, Kirov Orchestra

MP3-V0 + Scans
TchN.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?3rym3b4yl3e7hvb)

Review in The New York Times:

For most of us, Tchaikovsky's ballet ''The Nutcracker'' probably means one of two things: the perennial magic of the stagework itself or a purely musical encounter with the beloved little dances that pepper the second act. But who would pause over the whole of Tchaikovsky's musical work, every scene and transition, without the stagecraft and dancing? After all, ''The Nutcracker'' isn't exactly the ''Pathetique'' Symphony.

Or is it? In a new recording by Valery Gergiev and the Kirov Orchestra ''The Nutcracker'' takes on a symphonic aspect of unsuspected power and depth. While cleverness and brilliance may be routinely associated with Tchaikovsky's evergreen score, Mr. Gergiev gives fresh meaning to those virtues in an interpretation that is anything but routine.

Listening to the Kirov's vibrant playing here, one thinks of Toscanini's definition of tradition as the last bad performance. At least in the West, tradition has glazed the rich textures of ''The Nutcracker'' with a superficial gloss that reflects nothing much deeper than good tunes. Mr. Gergiev and his savvy Russian ensemble strip away that varnish to get at the counterpoint, the interior voices and their animating rhythms. End to end, it's a heady process of rediscovery.

Again and again, one is reminded of Tchaikovsky's lifelong fascination with music of the 18th century. Along with the sparkling clarity and motoric energy that Mr. Gergiev brings to the work at every turn, he also catches a distinctive edge of Sturm und Drang that charges Tchaikovsky's music at unexpected points: in Drosselmeyer's presentation of gifts, in the impassioned duet between Clara and the Nutcracker, even in the grand waltz that crowns the ballet.

Perhaps nowhere is Mr. Gergiev's sense of the musical fabric more striking than in the transitional Act I tableau of the Christmas tree, leading to the ''Waltz of the Snowflakes.'' The conductor achieves an aura of dramatic suspension and flow worthy of a well-fashioned symphonic movement; ''The Nutcracker',' Mr. Gergiev demonstrates, makes for compelling theater even on the stage of the imagination.

But above all, his seriously considered reading shows us an eveninglong symphonic work of unflagging vitality and invention. Tchaikovsky may have rued the wild popularity of his children's tale, but that was after the creative fact. Mr. Gergiev takes us back to that first light of inspiration, and his orchestra plays as if guided by the composer's own hand.

For what it's worth, these recordings all get the Lens Seal of Approval as well, particularly Gergiev's Nutcracker which is vivid and energetic, and will put whatever listening apparatus you have (be it ne'er so humble) through its paces! Dutoit takes a more stately symphonic view and Pletnev with the Russian National is elegance itself. I've also retagged as best I could for less confusion after discovering the previous lot were the usual freedb mess.

yepsa

07-19-2012, 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=tangotreats;2043279]Here are some new mirrors for The Motion Picture. :)

Thanks Tango! Can't beat mediafire.

Sirusjr

07-19-2012, 11:43 PM

Great ballets Lens of Truth just posted. I grabbed them the last time he posted them. Highly recommended!

Thagor

07-20-2012, 07:47 PM

Yeah me too Sirusjr;)

arthierr

07-21-2012, 05:18 PM

Thanks for the wealth of great music this week, guys!

The closest modern epitome of this clash of ideas I can recall is the Castlevania series...

Noooooooooo, it can't be... Wait, let me check once more....................................

No, really, I can't find a single bit of dickishness, no trace of vicious sarcasm, nothing. Only some eloquently expressed ideas, that make sense, and even if at times arguable, are at least well explained and justified enough to be thought provoking.

Mmh, my guess is NaotaM's good twin has stolen his account and posted this in his place, or he's been bitten by a radioactive spider which makes people nice and friendly, or something like that.

Seriously, see, when you drop the venomous attitude and use the best of your capacities to make positive, constructive things, the result can be quite interesting and appreciable.

I can't but mostly agree with this post, because this time it's measured and level-headed, and doesn't fall into the trap of being intentionally extreme and provocatve. There are a few points that can be discussed, of course, but as I said, some things are just a matter of personal taste and should not be grounds for squabble: "I like italian cuisine and you like chinese cuisine? I hate you!".

But there's one thing I should say, though: I don't believe orchestral music can sound bad anywhere, if well done. I think if an orchestral composer is really skilled and talented, he can't fail at writing a good, apt orchestral score for any kind of context (including Mario or Sonic), simply because orchestral music, by nature, has an incredible versatility and flexibility, an amazing range of possibilities in terms of composition and orchestration, which is not the case of other musical genres, that are much more typical and restrained.

That's one of the reasons why orchestral music is used so much in incidental music, not only because it's particularly elegant / noble / rich / big / powerful, but also because it just gives a much larger freedom in terms of expressiveness. The fact is that orchestral music has a certain neutrality and universality to it (a bit like the piano). It doesn't sound ethnic, it's not attached to a specific culture or era, like other genres and instruments. Instead, it's above all this, it can cover any kind of situation easily and naturally. You can use it in a sci-fi movie, or an asian historical, or a modern cop movie, or a crazy mix of all that, and it will sound great.

There are reasons for this, related to the evolution of the orchestra since the Renaissance. It would be too long to explain, but let's just say that the orchestra has evolved to become the most effective musical tool in history, simply put, and consequently, it is your best choice to score anything if you know how to use it properly.

Sanico

07-23-2012, 01:50 AM

The latest news about the next Miyazaki movie, says that it will be a biographical story of a man that designed a class of Japanese WWII aircrafts.

Hayao Miyazaki's New Film Will Tell the Story of Zero Fighter's Designer (http://twitchfilm.com/news/2012/07/hayao-miyazakis-new-film-will-tell-the-story-of-zero-fighters-designer.php)

Without wanting to say that i am particularly thrilled on a WWII story, because i'm not, i'm nonetheless very curious because, if this is true and there's a lot of secrecy around the project..., it'll be the first time that Miyazaki will work on a story based around historical facts.

I dunno but if Miyazaki wants to tell a WWII story, then he may have an important message to he wants to say, to the point on working on something that he have never done before. I'm wondering if this will be somewhat related in context to recent events, like the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

One can really expect is, of course, another terrific Hisaishi score ;)

tangotreats

07-23-2012, 01:58 AM

Miyazaki is probably the only director left I genuinely trust. Whatever he wants to make a film about, I know that he will be doing it for the right reasons and he will approach it as he has all his previous films. When the Porko Rosso 2 rumour was going around, I felt nothing but excitement - and I'm about as anti-sequel, and anti-revisiting-some-film-from-twenty-years-ago as you can get. But if Miyazaki is doing it, it's because there is a story that's worth telling. And if it's worth telling, it's worth telling well - and he'd do that without a doubt.

SO... I await his new film with genuine excitement and joy. After the innocence and wonder of Gake no Ue no Ponyo, it looks as though we will be getting something gritty and controversial.

Americans aren't exactly going to lap up a Japanese film about the guy who designed the plane that bombed Pearl Harbour... but I don't doubt for one moment that the film will be sensitive and reflective. Miyazaki is always at his best when he's in the air.

Can't wait. Will this be the fourth, or fifth time he has un-retired himself? ;)

Sirusjr

07-23-2012, 02:55 AM

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am working on a compilation of tracks that is tentatively called "Loveliness, Elegance, Nobility" in honor of one of the tracks I am including that I feel sums up the feeling I am going for perfectly both in the name and in the music itself. This is at its core a collection of heart-wrenchingly beautiful pieces of music from various anime scores, including many which are the only track of their kind on the score I plucked them from. I'll leave it to you to search for the track that this got its name from if you want a taste of the feeling I am looking for. I am mostly posting this in advance so I will be more motivated by the fact that I promised you blokes that I would deliver something. Depending on how long you have been in this thread there may not be much you don't recognize but perhaps this specific combination of pieces will be uniquely satisfying on its own due to its homogenous nature.

Doublehex

07-23-2012, 03:21 AM

Hey guys, for the unaware an absolutley wonderful MMO called The Secret World came out. It is a complete surprise because we got a wonderfully realized setting with great dialogue and an engrossing narrative. Technical issues aside, it is a fantastic piece of entertainment.

What isn't fantastic is the music. For whatever reason they decided to go with some indie songwriter to do the score, instead of returning to Haugen. Don't ask me why - it's crazy. Well, Funcom doesn't exactly like to repeat composers, but it is still an awkward transition from one of the greatest scores of all time to...well, electronica and guitar rifts.

So I decided to create a custom playlist for it! For my fellow Secret Worlders, here you go (https://tswcustomost.wordpress.com/).

JBarron2005

07-23-2012, 06:40 AM

Does anyone here like Battlestar Galactica music? This is by Bear McCreary and it is an hour and 20 minutes worth of live orchestra performance. I like the arrangements and they certainly make the music sound more complete than the small ensemble approach of the originals. Anyway, here is the link to the video...

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA SYMPHONY
Composed by Bear McCreary

The Battlestar Galactica Symphony - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfQCYMOfCOE)

gpdlt2000

07-23-2012, 10:06 AM

Many thanks for the Tchaicovsky ballets!

NaotaM

07-23-2012, 11:48 AM

arthierr

07-23-2012, 10:50 PM

Yusuke HOMMA
The Uchōten Hotel
(THE 有頂天ホテル)
(also known as Suite Dreams and Wow-Choten Hotel)

http://i.imgur.com/qWsew.gif

MP3 192 kbps / 27 tracks
Download mirrors for The_Wow-choten_Hotel_OST.zip - Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple hosts (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/YJFNTG11/The_Wow-choten_Hotel_OST.zip_links)

As some of you might have noticed, this is a very special day: the fourth anniversary of the thread! So let's celebrate with a particularly joyous score by Yusuke Homma, who also composed the very optimistic Ii Hito, recently posted in this thread. This time the tone is even more positive, and often gets very festive, lighthearted and upbeat. The perfect score for this great occasion!

Here are some notes about the film, from Wikipedia: The Uchōten Hotel (THE 有頂天ホテル THE Uchōten Hoteru?) (also known as Suite Dreams and Wow-Choten Hotel) is a 2006 comedy film written and directed by Japanese director Koki Mitani. The film is set in a five star Tokyo hotel on New Year's Eve, and follows the misadventures of various hotel staff and guests in the run-up to midnight. The film is reminiscent of the Hollywood screwball comedies of 1930s and 1940s, and explicitly references the 1932 film Grand Hotel, whose plot also followed the interlinked lives of various characters in a fictional hotel over a short period.

Sanico

07-24-2012, 01:11 AM

Hisaishi is also credited on...whatever this is (http://vgmdb.net/album/34088) come Sep 12th, so keep your ears peeled.

From IMDB: "A chronicle of the life of Yasui Santetsu, a 17th century master of shogi who turned his attention to astronomy and created a new calendar for Japan."

Insight Into the Universe (2012) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1834303/combined)

Sirusjr

07-24-2012, 03:37 AM

Loveliness, Elegance and Nobility Volume 1.
A compilation of anime music
32 Tracks | 1hr 26 minutes
Download (http://www.peejeshare.com/files/363245262/LEN_V1.rar.html)
1. Joe Hisaishi - Sky Stroll (Howl's Moving Castle) (Track 3)
2. Joe Hisaishi - Osono's Favor (Kiki's Delivery Service) (Track 11)
3. Yo Tsuji - Track 04 (Mystic Archives of Dantalian)
4. Tsuneyoshi Saito - Sky (Fafner OST 1 ~No Where~) (Track 28)
5. Tsuneyoshi Saito - Fafner in the Azure (Fafner OST 2 ~Now Here~) (Track 1)
6. Akira Senju - Chichi Naru Mori (V Gundam OST 1) (Track 2)
7. Tomoyuki Asakawa - Sopp's Theme (The Five Star Stories) (Track 2)
8. Yoshihisa Hirano - Ginpatsu no Shounen (Hunter X Hunter OST 1) (Track 3)
9. Koh Otani - Loveliness, Elegance, and Nobility (Gundam Wing Symphonic Collection) (Track 5)
10. Michiru Oshima - Brothers, vocal version (Fullmetal Alchemist OST 1) (Track 32)
11. Michiru Oshima - Kodoku (Fullmetal Alchemist OST 2) (Track 6)
12. Takashi Yoshimatsu - Track 8 (Astro Boy Tetsuwan Atom OST 1)
13. Shiro Sagisu - We Meet Only to Part (His and Her Circumstances Act 1.0) (Track 10)
14. Toshiyuki Watanabe - Ghogo, Together with the Magnificent (Rebirth of Mothra 2) (Track 12)
15. Seiko Nagaoka - Stellvia Anthem (Sound Wave of Stellvia) (Track 17)
16. Kotaro Nakagawa - Kokochiyoi Tokoro de no Nemuri (Gosick OST 1) (Track 29)
17. Yuki Kajiura - Dewdrops (Tsubasa Chronicle Future Soundscape I) (Track 8)
18. Yuki Kajiura - If you are my Love (Tsubasa Chronicle Future Soundscape II) (Track 11)
19. Yuki Kajiura - Blue Clouds (Tsubasa Chronicle Future Soundscape II) (Track 17)
20. Yuki Kajiura - My Love, So Sweet (Le Portrait de Petit Cossette) (Track 17)
21. Yuki Kajiura - At Dusk (Noir OST 2) (Track 14)
22. Yoko Kanno - Silent Prayer (Turn a Gundam The Movie OST) (Track 04)
23. Yoko Kanno - Quiet Landing (Turn a Gundam OST 1) (Track 16)
24. Masamichi Amano - Takadai no Fuukei (Giant Robo OST 1)
25. Masamichi Amano - Separation (Ninja Resurrection) (Track 12)
26. Masamichi Amano - Departure (Umi no Aurora) (Track 16)
27. Masamichi Amano - Theme of Eternal Love (Super Atragon) (Track 9)
28. Toshihiko Sahashi - Premonition (OVA Rayearth OST 1st Half) (Track 8)
29. Toshihiko Sahashi - Fuu's Jewel (OVA Rayearth OST 1st Half) (Track 17)
30. Toshihiko Sahashi - Every Feelings (OVA Rayearth OST 1st Half) (Track 18)
31. Toshihiko Sahashi - I Want to Protect the Earth (Ultraman Gaia OST 2) (Track 18)
32. Toshihiko Sahashi - To the Future (Ultraman Gaia OST 3) (Track 25)

In honor of this thread's four year anniversary I present to you my latest compilation of music. When I first started working on this, I was listening to Gosick and thought that I should really collect the most amazing slow, emotional tracks together in one compilation. This doesn't cover most of the soundtracks I have from 2004 to present and perhaps at some point I will work on a volume 2.

I found that some soundtracks were best represented by including multiple tracks, as you see with Fafner, Ultrama Gaia, and Sahashi's Rayearth music. I tried my best to make this a cohesive listening experience that had a single feeling behind it and I think I have succeeded. I gave it a listen once I re-arranged the tracks to make sure it flowed nicely and I was satisfied.

Even if you have all of these soundtracks in your collection, I suggest that you give it a chance and download it to see how it works for you.

mxwll

07-24-2012, 03:38 AM

Really would like to hear this. Any chance of reupping? The current links dont work. Thanks a lot!!!

Sirusjr

07-24-2012, 03:50 AM

Which links aren't working for you? If you are talking about my compilation, what host (besides mediafire) works for you?

tangotreats

07-24-2012, 03:52 AM

Really would like to hear this. Any chance of reupping? The current links dont work. Thanks a lot!!!

I don't suppose you'd be able to clarify what "this" actually is? If you are referring to Sirusjr's post, it's working fine as he only posted it ten minutes ago. If you're referring to Arthierr's above, that's OK too; not all the mirrors are working but most are fine. If you're referring to anything prior to that I would respectfully remind you that we're not psychic...

mxwll

07-24-2012, 03:55 AM

Actually, the first olympics by broughton was the album I was referring to, thanks!

Sanico

07-24-2012, 06:45 AM

Sirusjr thanks a lot for your compilation. Yeah another great share to celebrate 4 years of the orchestral thread!!

The compilation have a few favorites of mine, and others who i've never heard before that are totally unknown to me, but i'm sure this compilation will be great knowing beforehand of your excellent taste :)

Actually, the first olympics by broughton was the album I was referring to, thanks!

I guess in the week that start the olympics this one will be (re)posted, if not by me then by someone else ;)

Vinphonic

07-24-2012, 01:21 PM

Spice and Wolf

Music composed by Yuji Yoshino

So here are two special scores I really like. Similiar to ARIA and Koh Otani's Haibane Renmei, the music enchants you and transports you to another world. The anime is set in a fantasy version of the late medieval ages / early renaissance and the music perfectly reflects this context. A jung merchants meets a mythological humanoid wolf and they both travel to a distant land in the north ... with economic hijinks and romantic development. The music becomes never boring along the way and adds character to the world around them, always giving me the impression of a peaceful town during autumn.
The music for the second series gets a bit more serious and dark with the plot moving along but it still has a festive main theme, joyful tunes and relaxing pieces.
Enjoy.

OST I ~ Music of a Travel with a Wolf

Relaxing / Chamber / Wind / Strings

Download (http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag2g7a1/n/Spice_and_Wolf_OST.rar)

Sample: Track 22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T50hz9uBuHw&feature=relmfu)

credit goes to a-ost.blogspot.de

OST II ~ Music of a “Story that Continues in Happiness” with a Wolf

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gX9KCva7z6s/Stgy1wzQ39I/AAAAAAAABKA/ZwyyJaGNarI/s320/Spice+and+Wolf+II+Original+Soundtrack.JPG

Relaxing / Chamber / Wind / Strings / Choral

Download (http://www.mediafire.com/?4r01rhtua80ij8k)

Sample: Track 25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBuV-HsCQNs)

credit goes to animeost.info

...and long live the thread!

NaotaM

07-24-2012, 02:07 PM

3. Yo Tsuji - Singing a Hymn from Antiquity. A Neat, Simple Touch (Mystic Archives of Dantalian) (Track 4)
6. Akira Senju - The Woods of Fatherland (V Gundam OST 1) (Track 2)
8. Yoshihisa Hirano - The Boy of Silver Hair (Hunter X Hunter OST 1) (Track 3)
11. Michiru Oshima - Solitude (Fullmetal Alchemist OST 2) (Track 6)
16. Kotaro Nakagawa - A Cozy Spot for a Nap (Gosick OST 1) (Track 29)
24. Masamichi Amano - View from Up High (Giant Robo OST 1) [/center]

Thanks for the lovely stuff. Just thought I'd add the English translations for those tracks that lacked them.

Speaking of, about this same time last year, I took it upon myself to tackle the foolhardy and amazingly time-consuming task of translating every Japanese soundtrack I owned, from anime to video games, into English, down to the last track. Dozens, perhaps even hundreds of them. Afterward, I never so much as even looked at my fucking computer for at least a month. My eyes and fingers still ache. ;_;

But it was very much worth it. Some people prefer to keep the tracks in katakana cause they're easier to track down that way, because it's more "pure" and "respectful" to keep it in the Japanese or because they just don't care about song titles, but whatever. It's far easier for me personally to recognise and internalize something when it's in my own language and context.

"Incomprehensible jumble of vowels" -What the hell was this, again? Was it the sad orchestral track, or the upbeat rock tune?

"Sad Determination" -Ah, right! That's the one I was thinking of.

And lemme tell ya, the less creative composers out there love using the words for "Determination," "Bonds," and "Battle." I guess anime does tend to run together, and it's a better alternative to "MAgIC +8tanebutt6-_-" or whatever Sawano usually calls his shit.

So if anyone's interested in English tracklists for their favorite untranslated scores, just ask or hit me up via PM and I'll post it. Thanks.

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OST I ~ Music of a Travel with a Wolf

Relaxing / Chamber / Wind / Strings

Download (http://www.filefactory.com/file/ag2g7a1/n/Spice_and_Wolf_OST.rar)

OST II ~ Music of a “Story that Continues in Happiness” with a Wolf

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gX9KCva7z6s/Stgy1wzQ39I/AAAAAAAABKA/ZwyyJaGNarI/s320/Spice+and+Wolf+II+Original+Soundtrack.JPG

Relaxing / Chamber / Wind / Strings / Choral

Download (http://www.mediafire.com/?4r01rhtua80ij8k)

In fact, I'll start with these, with thanks to klnerfan.

Spice & Wolf OST I

1. The Wolf and the Merchant, Traveling by Wagon
2. In the Middle of a Journey
3. A Distant Promise...
4. Tail Dance
5. Dreaming of Servitude
6. Running
7. Waning of the Moon
8. Mane in the Moonlight
9. Lonely Dream
10. Shiny Wheels
11. Exotic Appearance
12. Being Noisy
13. The First Village
14. Long Night, Cold Moon
15. Eating
16. Swaying Wheat
17. The Unknown
18. Before Dawn
19. To Your Origins
20. Small Breaths
21. Dogteeth and Drunks
22. Even in a Strong Wind
23. Even Scales
24. Smart People
25. I Don't Remember
26. Dark Forest
27. Festival Song
28. Change
29. An Unseen Town

Spice & Wolf OST II

1. Honeyed Dawn
2. The Festival Begins
3. And Dried Fish and Wine
4. Pagan Gods and the People
5. Dance of Fire
6. Good-Hearted People
7. Morning of Kumerusun(I assume this is the name of a town)
8. Existentialist
9. Waltz of Fertility
10. Make or Break
11. Don't Bury Me in the Ditch
12. Mad at the Market
13. Riot
14. Chronicles of a Young Writer
15. Dancing with Wolves
16. Miniature Green Garden
17. Bear Hunting Season
18. Dark Plans for False Transactions
19. Family
20. Catching a Rat by the Tail
21. Saloon Girls
22. Silent Poison
23. Gentle Slope
24. It Stays a Happy Story
25. Paradise Lost
26. The Festival Ends, But the Journey Continues

tangotreats

07-26-2012, 02:30 AM

Couldn't agree more as regards track titling. There are a number of schools of thought:

a) 傲慢馬鹿傲慢馬鹿傲慢馬鹿 or nothing! You want it in English? Heathen!
b) 1. ♡MEINU TEEMU♡ (OPENINGU CUREDITO TITURU MUSICURU OHKESUTURU SURANDOTURAKO ARUBUMU KAWAII ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡ DESU NE ANIMESHONU GEKIJOUBAN BANGUMI ~~~ (★^O^★) ~~~)!
c) 1. Main Theme

Suffice to say, I am proudly in the last camp. Japanese is cool and everything but let's face it - unless you speak it fluently (and who does? I certainly don't. I speak slightly better than average tourist Japanese. "Average" meaning you can say "Help me!", "I don't understand!", "Do you speak English?" and "Honestly, officer, she told me she was 21!") you are well and truly knackered. You might as well have a library full of MP3s all entitled "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" because it's the same difference in the end.

Having said that, I will occasionally transliterate Kanji/Katakana into Romaji and leave it there. My Japanese is not good enough to translate the titles myself, so I rely on common sense plus Google Translate. If Google comes up with "SUPER WITH LOVE THE MEGA FEELINGS SECRECY BATTLE DECISIVE DIES SADNESS CAPTAIN KISSING MONSTERS!" then I have a choice between making a completely random guess ("Loving Feelings?", "Decisive Battle?", "Monsters Attack?", etc, etc) or simply leaving it in Romaji. At least it uses an alphabet I'm familiar with! I can search for "Tomodachi" but I will not get very far trying to look for "オーラルセックスのテーマ".

So, here's to English track listings! And infinite lists of cues all entitled Decisive Battle, Secrecy, Departure, and Tender Feelings. ;)

NaotaM

07-26-2012, 03:45 AM

Here here! Any requests?

Faleel

07-26-2012, 04:03 AM

I would assume there has been little to no progress on your Skyward Sword Album Tango? I am really looking forward to it.

Thanks.

Sirusjr

07-26-2012, 06:40 AM

Yeah english tracklists are nice and all but I don't really pay much attention to the names of tracks while I am listening to begin with so I don't really care about tagging tracks usually as long as I have the artist and album information tagged properly. Typing all the names of the tracks in a 30-40 track anime soundtrack is just not worth the effort for me.

Vinphonic

07-26-2012, 12:10 PM

Thanks NaotaM.
I prefer english track titles as well. I go through the effort when the music is worth it (and most japanese soundtracks usually are) and it puts everything in a better perspective for me. I make exceptions of course. Oshima's Sora no Woto is clearly intended to have french track titles and I leave it at that. But otherwise, english all the way.

One more thing, is there an OST 4 of Gundam Age? The third has some really good tracks. (I still think Track 29 of the second OST is the best closure for the score).

Herr Salat

07-26-2012, 12:56 PM

Vinphonic

07-26-2012, 02:07 PM

If there isn't one I'm fine with it. I just wondered if there was still some music left.

tangotreats

07-26-2012, 02:17 PM

Even though Gundam scores typically receive four soundtracks (since each series is split into four production blocks) I doubt whether there will be a fourth. Age isn't doing too well. I think they just want to wrap it up and move on.

DingDongSenior

07-26-2012, 05:18 PM

bi0h4zard's recent post reminded me how much I enjoy Randy Newman's score for A Bug's Life. Here's some links to the rare academy promo of the full score:

320kbps
http://rapidshare.com/files/30175921/Bugslife.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/30169862/Bugslife.part2.rar

FLAC
http://rapidshare.com/files/184098359/rndynmn-bugs.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/184110509/rndynmn-bugs.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/183982720/rndynmn-bugs.part3.rar

Track Listing
1. Main Title (01:46)
2. Flik's Machine (01:19)
3. Seed To Tree (01:01)
4. Red Alert (01:48)
5. Hopper And His Gang (01:08)
6. Flik Leaves (02:37)
7. Circus Bugs (00:56)
8. Clown Waltz (01:20)
9. Manto The Magnificent (01:08)
10. The City (01:18)
11. Robin Hood (01:01)
12. Flying Home (01:28)
13. Flik's Return (01:24)
14. Loser (02:43)
15. Dot's Rescue (02:14)
16. Atta Apologizes (01:08)
17. Building The Bird (03:44)
18. Don't Come Back (01:07)
19. The Last Grain (00:37)
20. Grasshoppers' Return (03:01)
21. Convincing Fick (01:33)
22. The Bird Flies (02:40)
23. Rainstorm - The Last Hop (02:32)
24. All Is Well (04:11)
25. The Time Of Your Life (06:23)

May someone re-upload this please? Thanks in advance.

Vinphonic

07-26-2012, 07:26 PM

Kirby of the Stars: 20th Anniversary Bonus Tracks

Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/METLL929/Kirby_20th_Anniversary.zip_links)

01. Gourmet Race / Green Greens ~Chamber Ver.~
02. Tomorrow will see the dream of tomorrow
03. Milky Way Wishes: Staf Roll ~Acoustic Ver.~

I want a Kirby Symphony ... NOW!

Zeratul13

07-27-2012, 12:39 AM

i'd also appreciate a reup of the bugs life... somehow i missed it the first time :(

Lens of Truth

07-27-2012, 02:15 AM

A Bug's Life promo in FLAC:
BLPromo.part1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1hnsa0layf4a988)
BLPromo.part2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y87e7lrf87sevc9)

Zeratul13

07-27-2012, 02:41 AM

thanks! that was very fast :D

Sanico

07-27-2012, 03:40 AM

Actually, the first olympics by broughton was the album I was referring to, thanks!

Here is the re-upload of Broughton two CD set of First Olympics Athens 1896.

MP3 @ 320 kbps + Scans
DepositFiles (http://depositfiles.com/files/3tbvm0tem)
DepositFiles (http://depositfiles.com/files/ckbu8o4zp)

aescalle

07-27-2012, 11:35 PM

Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra
Conducted by John Williams

Film Night At Tanglewood

(http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1DPyFr)

NOTICE (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HDQR0BTY)

Cd1: A Tribute to David Lean

01 - Introduction.mp3
02 - Prelude from Blithe Spirit.mp3
03 - Commentary.mp3
04 - Excerpts from The Bridge on the River Kwai.mp3
05 - Commentary.mp3
06 - Excerpts from the Passage to India.mp3
07 - Commentary.mp3
08 - Three Pieces from Oliver Twist.mp3
09 - Commentary.mp3
10 - Excerpts from Doctor Zhivago.mp3
11 - Commentary.mp3
12 - Excerpts from Lawrence of Arabia.mp3
13 - Intermission.mp3

Cd2: The Magic Of Harry Potter

01 - Introduction.mp3
02 - Hedwig's Theme.mp3
03 - Commentary.mp3
04 - Aunt Marge's Waltz.mp3
05 - Commentary.mp3
06 - Diagon Alley.mp3
07 - Commentary.mp3
08 - The Knight Bus.mp3
09 - Commentary.mp3
10 - Fawkes the Phoenix.mp3
11 - Commentary.mp3
12 - Nimbus 2000.mp3
13 - Commentary.mp3
14 - Quidditch.mp3
15 - Commentary.mp3
16 - The Chamber of Secrets.mp3
17 - Commentary.mp3
18 - A Bridge to the Past.mp3
19 - Commentary.mp3
20 - Harry's Wondrous World.mp3
21 - Applause.mp3
22 - ENCORE Flying Theme from E.T..mp3
23 - Closing.mp3

Please Reup !

Thanks

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM ----------

John Williams conducts the New York Philharmonica at Lincoln Center (NYC).

NOTICE (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ZTRHSJH)

Sorry not track list, and again it is a live recording so the sound of course is not the best.

Here same information but in spanish:

BSOSpirit -- Williams en New York �Las Cr�nicas- (http://www.bsospirit.com/reflexiones/williamsny.php)

Best!!!

Re-up please!

NaotaM

07-28-2012, 04:35 AM

Aquarion EVOL: LOVE@New Dimension
by Yoko Kanno

Free Cloud Storage - MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/?2zc2s7j1vcat9)

This is the latest vocal album for the series with the requisite smattering of orchestral tracks, new and old, coming out to about twenty minutes of new material. "A Tot" is a lovely ballet waltz, "Unforgettable" represents the long-awaited release of the orchestral version of "Celiane," and Light Cadenza features some lovely minimalist piano set to dark synth pads. "Echo Encore" closes out the orchestral offerings with a medley of themes interpreted through the laser light show theatrics of "Moonlight Symphonia."

Enjoy! I'm glad to have found this; After learning Secret of Mana Genesis was just going to be a worthless "Let's bump up the old synths and call it an arrange album" throwaway, I needed a pick-me-up.

Herr Salat

07-29-2012, 12:27 AM

Masamicz Amano
2e. Suite Symphonique "GR"
(GIANT ROBO)
The Warsaw National Philharmonic Orchestra
conducted by the composer

FLAC + SCANS | 2 Tracks | 55:29 | 303 MB

Release Date: 11.12.2002
Recording Date: April 1992 - May 1997
Recording Location: The Concert Hall at the National Philharmonic in Warsaw, Poland
Label: Cafua
Catalog Number: CACG-0017 (http://www.cafua.com/products/detail100.html)

01. Part 1
02. Part 2

DOWNLOAD
FLAC
Part 1 - http://www.mediafire.com/?5g358gayh6cg2yk
Part 2 - http://www.mediafire.com/?7oqao36p1i02hrx

MP3 -V0:
http://www.mediafire.com/?c74i4l29uh4taij

chancth

07-30-2012, 09:08 AM

klnerfan, thank you so much for all Sakura wars scores

suxmaple

07-30-2012, 06:09 PM

does anyone have lossless album of Tokyo kosei wind orchestra as the performer?

mojomadnes

07-30-2012, 06:58 PM

Great stuff...

---------- Post added at 09:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:52 AM ----------

Ok, Sanico, to here's something great to add to the Olympics topic:

John Williams & Boston Pops Orchestra - The Sound of Glory (Thanks to Sirusjr)
http://rapidshare.com/files/153471732/JW_-_TSOG.rar.html

1. Summon the Heroes [First Recording] - Boston Pops Orchestra
2. O Fortuna [From Carmina Burana] - Boston Pops Orchestra, Tanglewood Festival Chorus
3. Bugler's Dream/Olympic Fanfare and Theme - Boston Pops Orchestra
4. Ode to Zeus [From Canto Olympico] - Boston Pops Orchestra, Tanglewood Festival Chorus
5. Javelin - Boston Pops Orchestra
6. Olympic Hymn [First Recording] - Boston Pops Orchestra, Tanglewood Festival Chorus
7. Festive Overture, Op. 96 - Boston Pops Orchestra
8. Conquest of Paradise - Boston Pops Orchestra, Tanglewood Festival Chorus
9. Parade of Charioteers [From Ben Hur] - Boston Pops Orchestra
10. Toward a New Life - Boston Pops Orchestra
11. Chariots of Fire - Boston Pops Orchestra
12. Olympic Spirit [First Recording] - Boston Pops Orchestra

Writes John Williams in the liner notes: "There is unquestionably a spiritual, non-corporeal aspect to an athletic quest ... that brings us close to what art is all about." Yet spirituality is in short supply on Summon the Heroes, a collection of 13 short pieces mostly composed for or associated with Olympics past, all faultlessly blared by the Boston Pops and its peerless brass. The Vangelis Chariots of Fire theme is here, and after the album-opening double-barreled blast of Williams' title track followed by the "O Fortuna" chorus from Orff's Carmina Burana, one feels reminded that not only the age but even the Olympics are pretty antiheroic these days. Nevertheless, the disc would fill the bill nicely for some kind of sports-watching party, and there are some delightful surprises. Leonard Bernstein's lovely 1981 Olympic Hymn, composed for an annual meeting of the International Olympic Congress, receives its first recording here; it's a simple German-language choral piece with a lyricism rubbed off from the composer's lifetime of conducting Mahler. Listeners might have forgotten that Shostakovich's Festive Overture served as the theme of the boycotted Moscow Olympics of 1980, and indeed the variety of Olympic pieces brought together makes the disc a worthwhile historical document in itself. The inclusion of pieces dating back to the 1932 Olympics (Suk's Toward a New Life) shows just how old the quasi-heroic musical ideal really is, and at the other end of the temporal scale, Michael Torke's Javelin is a pleasant bit of string-laced Neo-Romanticism that does indeed convey the grace of that ancient pastime. The disc, recored at Boston's Symphony Hall in 1996, was originally released that year; the sound ought to hold up well enough for yet another repackaging in 2004.

~ James Manheim, All Music Guide

Video bonus:

Atlanta 1996 OC - John Williams' "Summon The Heroes"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAorxMlUZTo

Can we reup this one?

Orie

07-30-2012, 11:08 PM

For my mates, comrades.... whatever you want to be called. :p
It was requested an upload of this. Somehow I saw no posts of Tangotreats in my thread when it was available. I know you like Masamichi conducting, or how it sounds the orchestra. Correct me if I am wrong, please. :)
Unless, you already had this soundtrack for you :p

Makai Tenshou (Ninja Resurection) ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK ALBUM
MP3 VBR -V0 / Booklet Scans (from the non japanese release) (Thread 63021)

Release date:1998.02.25
Catalogue Number: TYCY-5593
Label: Toshiba EMI

Music composed & Conducted by: Masamichi Amano
Performed by: Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra

Tracklist:

01. The Legend of Satan: Main Title
02. Miracle
03. Midnight Attack
04. Banner-Seal of Heterodoxy: The Son of Deus
05. Spy Swordsman Jubei and the Fivefold Group
06. Fated Battle: Jubei and Shiro Amakusa
07. Secret Skill: Demon Realm Reincarnation
08. Fallen Castle of Shimahara
09. Fight Unto the Death: Separation from the Father
10. Onu and Yataro
11. Practice Competition: Onu Vs. Osu
12. Separation
13. The Reincarnated Ones (not used)
14. Jubei’s Mountain Crossing
15. Musashi of Reigon Hall
16. Resurrection of Satan: Shiro Amakusa, Come Out!

Vinphonic

08-02-2012, 10:43 PM

A small preview of the OST for AKB0048 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHcrbH1w4A). It's this year's biggest surprise for me. Excellent stuff. I'm also really excited to see Williams back in action again, can't wait to hear Lincoln.

NaotaM

08-03-2012, 12:04 AM

Since they're such darlings of the thread but was unsure if anyone had done so already, I went ahead and translated the tracklists for Gundam Seed OST's 2-4(The first was already done.)

VICL-61110 | Mobile Suit Gundam SEED ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK II - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/33357)
VICL-61196 | Mobile Suit Gundam SEED ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK III - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/33391)
VICL-61500 | Mobile Suit Gundam SEED ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK IV - VGMdb (http://vgmdb.net/album/33392)

Seed Destiny soon to follow.

Sirusjr

08-03-2012, 04:33 AM

So while I am getting my second volume of the Loveliness, Elegance, and Nobility prepared I thought I'd see if anyone here has any suggestions for improvement based on how the first one was, or just any general comments. I appreciate all the likes on my post but some more detailed input might help me get the second volume to be even better. Please don't be shy, what did you think?

stingray2501

08-03-2012, 12:23 PM

Vinphonic

08-03-2012, 12:42 PM

Everyone loves Katamari
Orchestral Game Score by Katsuro Tajima

Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/GTTIMM7Y/Katamari.zip_links)

Big orchestral bombast and lyrical beauty for one of the weirdest games I've ever seen. Only in Japan. Most of it is from the second disc of Me and My Katamari and classical in nature (and it really seems a bit out of place with the rest of the music for this game). I left a Bonus Track so everyone can hear how weird it really is ... and proof that even the stupidest lyrics can sound epic with a big orchestra.

Enjoy.

Herr Salat

08-03-2012, 09:30 PM

Sirusjr

08-03-2012, 10:10 PM

I find it interesting that you don't focus on the repetition itself as bad but more the tone of the piece. Another friend commented that my compilation was "too happy" so I guess you can't please everyone. One thing that I am thinking of doing in the next version though is including sometimes four or five tracks from a given anime (each anime usually has two soundtracks so half are from each). So just like I had two from Ultraman Gaia, I have four from Heroic Age, and four from Noein. I'm curious what everyone thinks about whether this sort of thing is good or bad in a compilation.

arthierr

08-04-2012, 03:41 AM

Ah, so busybusybusy lately. Thank you so much for the great music, guys.

I appreciate all the likes on my post but some more detailed input might help me get the second volume to be even better. Please don't be shy, what did you think?

As I am not shy, I can give you my feedbacks once I've listened to it this weekend! ;) Plus I've got a few suggestions of pieces that would greatly fit.

Also, some time ago, someone sent me quite an arrogant PM in which he basically DICTATED me how to talk and act in the thread, notably forbidding me to talk about "artistic tastes" or "good sense", in a very huffy way (even giving me a "Capiche?" at some point. REALLY? LOL!).

No need to answer directly to such a post (and all other PMs from that individual will be ignored, just use the thread, dude), but just to make things perfectly clear to anyone who thinks the same, here's my position on the subject:

Anybody is entitled to talk about "artistic tastes" or "good sense" in the thread if he wants to, and NOBODY can forbid him to do so. There's no censorship about it here. It is NOT rude to talk about these things, since it's only your personal views that you express. Some people might disagree with you, but they can't CONTROL whether you're allowed to talk about it or not in the first place.

A simple, obvious rule of thumb is: you can't CONTROL what statements / opinions others express, you can only control how YOU REACT to them. For instance, if you don't agree with a certain opinion, you can:

a) reply to it in a civil manner and explain why you disagree with it. In other words, express your own different opinion so people can compare and judge.

b) say nothing, just let it go and mind your own business, since it's only an opinion.

c) ............. There's no real c). These are basically your two only valid options.

BUT, what you CAN'T do in this thread (and in fact, in most other places on earth) is to aggressively and rudely attack people because they expressed opinions you disagree with. For instance (just a random example!), telling someone: "are you high? I can't believe how stupid this is. Stop saying stupid shit." is VERY rude and DOWNRIGHT unwelcome in this thread (and anywhere else). So just forget about it when you're around here.

"Capiche?" HAHA!

NaotaM

08-04-2012, 10:01 AM

Is it not the explicit point of a PM to allow whoever to talk with you directly and perhaps spare this or that thread and the people therein oh whatever dumb drama is going on with you? Indeed, why even bring it up here(aside from broadcast some lovely BLAH BLAH FREE SPEECH NO TAGBACKS CENSORSHIP bs...and then...try to dictate how people talk in the thread o-0)? Nobody cares, dude.

Etrian Odyssey 4/Sekaiju no MeiQ 4 OST
by Yuzo Koshiro

http://www.gamefront.com/files/22080073/sekaiju+no+meiqu4.rar

In an surprising departure from the series norm, the latest installment of the Etrian Odyssey series features some gorgeous orchestral and ensemble work with the help of Shenmue composer Takeshi Yanegawa, as opposed to the typical FM-synth style, with some light rock and rhythm work infused in the battle tracks. It's mostly light, relaxing, lounge-inspired stuff. Give it a try.

tangotreats

08-04-2012, 12:42 PM

I care, and I don't doubt that most of the other thread regulars care too. I'm sure that, at the very least, they understand and appreciate the thread's ethos; that one should be able to speak freely without having some ill-mannered fool jumping on your head every five seconds, and provided it's done so with courtesy and respect, all opinions are welcome.

With that in mind, I absolutely support Arthierr's post, his response to whatever imbecile sent that PM, and his willingness to stand up for his belief in fair play, camaraderie, and mutual respect.

NaotaM

08-04-2012, 07:22 PM

Opinions are not these sacred things that should be automatically respected, and if one is unable to express their opinions without stompting over the artistic tastes of others like some haughty nitwit, which is what this is starting to sound like between the lines of arthierr's post, I'd argue they very much deserve to be called out/have their head caved in with a steel-toed boot until they gain some modicum of sense/whichever.

tangotreats

08-04-2012, 08:02 PM

The right to give an opinion is very sacred... That's what was being threatened. People should be respected. The "say what I think or shut your effing mouth" mentality that pervades so many threads around here.

Stomping over somebody's tastes is one thing; stomping over them is quite another. That's what must be stopped.

It reminds me of a message I got some years ago. It was along the lines of "If you don't like IRON MAN by RAMIN DJAWADI then you are clearly a retard! Shut your fucking mouth! Retards should be silenced! That score is a modern great. Anybody who can't see that, why, if I ever met them, I'd pull out their teeth with pliers and insert firecrackers into their rectums! Piss off, faggot boy, go and listen to your precious homosexual Jerry Goldenstein shit while licking your boyfriend's ass crack."

Yes, these people do exist.

arthierr

08-04-2012, 08:19 PM

Oh, look, that annoying little brat is back again to bring negativity to the thread and embarrass everybody, as usual.

Don't worry, kid, you won't have to complain about my replies to your posts since I'll just ignore them. No time to lose with your kind of people. Byyyyyyye.

Let's focus on what really MATTERS here: the friendship, the SANE discussions, and of course the great music! :D

NaotaM

08-04-2012, 08:26 PM

The right to give an opinion is very sacred... That's what was being threatened.

It sure doesn't sound like it. "...notably forbidding me to talk about "artistic tastes" or "good sense"..." It doesn't sound like this is about opinions themselves at all. How can one expect respect for their own if they're glibly smacking the other's down in turn? How hard is it to just not talk shit about one's tastes when debating their point? It adds nothing to debate and just makes you look like an arrogant shitheel. Just don't do it. Respect.

Stomping over somebody's tastes is one thing; stomping over them is quite another. That's what must be stopped.

...err, no. They're both the same flavor of asshole. Saying a soundtrack is shit and saying someone's taste or that the person themself are two different things.

"If you don't like IRON MAN by RAMIN DJAWADI then you are clearly a retard! Shut your fucking mouth! Retards should be silenced! That score is a modern great. Anybody who can't see that, why, if I ever met them, I'd pull out their teeth with pliers and insert firecrackers into their rectums! Piss off, faggot boy, go and listen to your precious homosexual Jerry Goldenstein shit while licking your boyfriend's ass crack."

Whoever you paraphrased that from is a retard, absolutely.

"I question the artistic tastes of anyone who believes X."

As is this person, for the same reason. Regardless of how you come down on the Subjective vs. Objective issue, the politeness is a pretense when you're still insulting people over their taste in music.
The latter is just more passive-aggressive.

As for the argument that one should be free to say whatever they choose free of consequence and the responsibility is on everyone else for how they choose to respond...well, surely I don't need to point out what recent controversial argument this should remind one of.

Sirusjr

08-04-2012, 08:28 PM

NaotaM

08-04-2012, 08:33 PM

NaotaM, why are you posting soundtracks that link to a bunch of files hosted separately on mediafire? This is the second post like that I've seen and it is totally a pain for anyone to download. Please zip your stuff before posting so we can download it as a single file.

Because that requires upgrading to an account I don't have the money for. If you have suggestions for a better filesharing site, I'm all ears.

Sirusjr

08-04-2012, 08:38 PM

Wow really? They changed it? Well gamefront seems to be a pretty good host for now after peejeshare has gone to shit. I'll re-upload this to a separate host once I get it all downloaded.

NaotaM

08-04-2012, 08:43 PM

Wow really? They changed it? Well gamefront seems to be a pretty good host for now after peejeshare has gone to shit. I'll re-upload this to a separate host once I get it all downloaded.

I appreciate it, but you don't need to go through all the trouble. If gamefront will work, I'll get on it immediately, and I'll go ahead and do Evol and Slope, too.

arthierr

08-04-2012, 08:44 PM

after peejeshare has gone to shit.

WHAT??? Oh crap, I've got dozens of albums to download from there, since I was too busy. Is it temporary?

tangotreats

08-04-2012, 08:45 PM

"I dislike the thing you like."
"I dislike you because of the thing you like."

The former is a statement that invites a discussion. The latter is a childish whine.

This thread is built upon people respecting one another; not necessarily agreeing all the time, but being adult enough to put forward those thoughts without attacking the person. Frankly, there is only one regular participant in this thread who does regularly attack the person, and he's not a million miles away from this discussion.

Everybody here knows exactly what Arthierr and myself are talking about. I see no reason to participate further in this nonsense - except to say that with only a handful of exceptions, the only arguments in this thread that have been even remotely controversial have only been exclusively due to the persistent misbehaviour of one, unique individual.

Perhaps, somewhere on this enormous planet, there exists a person who can understand why you are so aggressive, so rude, so argumentative, so tactless; usually these are personality traits exhibited by, for lack of a more delicate term, stupid fuckwits... but you are anything but. The fact, however, remains - pretty much every time an argument in this thread erupts, you are in close proximity; coincidence?

Please, enough already. That's a heartfelt plea. If the way this thread conducts itself offends you so, perhaps you would be better off not participating in it, rather than throwing a fit every time a particular turn of phrase is uttered that tickles your "offended" bone...

FILE HOSTING:

Mediafire is fine, and Gamefront is fine. Peeje seems to be OK, but I have heard that files are disappearing occasionally. Could this be to do with ongoing server issues? It's not necessarily the case that they've "gone to shit".

Sirusjr

08-04-2012, 08:46 PM

WHAT??? Oh crap, I've got dozens of albums to download from there, since I was too busy. Is it temporary?

Looks like you are going to have to ask for re-uploads. Most of the stuff I've posted on there seems to have been deleted.

arthierr

08-04-2012, 08:51 PM

Tango: I confirm, Peeje works fine (at least now) since I just downloaded Sirus' Loveliness, Elegance and Nobility compilation. Phew!

Sirusjr

08-04-2012, 08:57 PM

Tango: I confirm, Peeje works fine (at least now) since I just downloaded Sirus' Loveliness, Elegance and Nobility compilation. Phew!

Yeah, but anything I re-uploaded after that seems to have been deleted automatically, so I moved to gamefront for everything. I will be posting volume 2 today :)

NaotaM

08-04-2012, 09:25 PM

"I dislike the thing you like."
"I dislike you because of the thing you like."

The former is a statement that invites a discussion. The latter is a childish whine.

No argument here.

This thread is built upon people respecting one another; not necessarily agreeing all the time, but being adult enough to put forward those thoughts without attacking the person.

Just because you guys could talk about music and turn your nose up at other people's tastes without being reprimanded before I showed up doesn't mean the "thread is built upon respecting one another", it means it's an alienating echo chamber. And that bugs me cause I genuinely enjoy it here most of the time. I love all the music that gets posted, I enjoy discussing the music I love, I enjoy talking to certain people here, including yourself, believe it or not. I want to continue enjoying these things. I do not enjoy arguing or drama or being overly frank. I've been wrong plenty of times. That Kanno plagiarism shit was stupid and I apologized. Giving klnerfan shit over "suites was stupid and I apologized(my opinion on them remains more or less the same, but the attack was unwarranted.)

My issues with attacking people's taste and just generally being insufferable when expressing oneself are legitimate, however, and by your logic, you have no right to censor me or ask me to censor myself for airing grievance with that kind of shitty, arrogant attitude, harsh words or thread consensus be damned. Unless you're just saying something patently false, and yes, there are false opinions, I don't care what anyone's opinion on something is, just leave the snobbery at the door. There's a heartfelt plea. That's what so often makes me cross. You don't get to be an elitist asshole and then whine when someone outright calls you such. Free speech goes both ways. Maybe concede we could all work on facets of our behavior? :D

For the record, there will probably be less spats between arthierr and I as, between the being a giant baby and dragging "drama" I was trying to keep respectful and private here weeks after the fact and pulling the hypocritical "free speech + no consequences" card, I've had about the last straw so the imbecile is on my permanent ignore list now. So much for trying to compromise one-on-one like human beings and avoid further fights. Least I still kinda get my wish! :D