And, here's another little thing that I know a few people have been waiting for... I certainly have!

I'm not sure this sort of question falls into the "out of bounds" things that cannot be asked, but if you or anyone has uploaded the second Score for Gokaiger, you wouldn't happen to know where its located in this thread (or the forum), would you?

While we are on the topic of Mario and Sonic, it would appear the music was done by one Teruhiko Nakagawa, according to MobyGames.

Hey guys any chance of an album arrengment with all the important orchestral music from skyward sword?

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Hey guys any chance of an album arrengment with all the important orchestral music from skyward sword?

i meant not an actual cd but a condensend version of the gamerip like you made before of other things?

Some miserable asshole might already be working on just that. Possibly... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAvaGgBzE4&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SPB00B70E152D0304C
leads to a playlist with tons and tons of old republic music.and still only a tease.

Some miserable asshole might already be working on just that. Possibly... ;)

Our prayers go with you. If you die in the process, know that it is a good death!

Our prayers go with you. If you die in the process, know that it is a good death!

death will only come to those who try to find all new music in the upcoming old republic rip and arrange it.5,5 hours plus all 6 complete filmscores plus Knight 1 +2. 20 plus hours, if there is only one version of each cue.

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almost forgot 90 mins of new Cantina Band Music in Lod Republic, as well.

Uh...or you could just arrange the original music and throw all of the recycled stuff out the window.

The Science Fiction Album
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Really nice. Thanks a lot :)

Some miserable asshole might already be working on just that. Possibly... ;)

can�t be such an misarable asshole if he does such nice things...thanks in advance. Really in Zelda Mood after the 25 Anniversery Symphony.Sure people will dislike it for being too western, too straightforward.One cue even sounds like lifted straight from Dr.Who.And very Fracture-ish orchestrations.

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Uh...or you could just arrange the original music and throw all of the recycled stuff out the window.

thats what i meant. but will it be easily recognizable amongst all those other files? not holding my breath for a complete soundtrack release. williams themes have crippled the harry potter gamescore releases, this one will be no different.(very happy with warhorse btw)

Regarding Zelda, I could have made a playlist but I do not want to spoil myself before I finish the game ... and what a game it is !
Beautiful visuals (for a wii game this is no easy task, especially after Uncharted), welcome changes to the game mechanic, more rpg elements and a promising story so far (I'm only 20 hours in). I absolutly love the atmosphere and the music (reminds me of a Ghibli movie) and I've spent a few hours in skyloft sucking in the atmosphere and listening to the many variations of the town theme (escpecially the mandolin one) or the majestic overworld theme Skyward Sword - The Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbROTdOgj0). And best of all the game is actually hard and quite a challenge. Definetly a strong contender for best game score (and best game) of the year for me, and I havn't even listened to The Old Republic.

It doesn't actually feel like that much of a hideous job. There's a lot in Skyward Sword that can and should be thrown out. If you're talking about a good album experience, then pretty much all of the stingers can go. Then, you take out all the repeats. Then you find yourself with about 50-60 minutes of music left... which makes for a rather convenient and satisfying album.

I won't be looping every track to make it half an hour long unlike some of these nutcases on Youtube have done.

I will apologise in advance for completists and for people who will hate me for some of my choices regarding what stays and what goes, and which variations fit and which don't. This won't contain all the music but arranged in a neat album order. It will be an album presentation. I've tossed out the synth tracks, and I will not deny, tossed out stuff I just don't like because I don't think it fits with the concept. It will be as near to a Skyward Sword Symphony as we can get without actually composing something. The raw material for Skyward Sword is amazing but does not lend itself to a good listening experience - and it is difficult to please everybody when undertaking such a re-imagination. Mine is not for completists, and it's not for Zelda nuts. It's for fans of orchestral music who wish to enjoy it upon its own merits. I have the greatest respect for people who fit into the first two categories but feel that their desires would be better served by somebody who shares those convictions; my album can only be my album.

Actually, I like that approach the best because a lot of the music (most of the synth tracks) works best in the game itself. The way some cues are intertwined with many layers of music is better suited for a playing experience rather than a listening one. I'm looking forward to your album.

From what i�ve heard of Old Republics Score so far its really a mixed bag. Some of it is real original material, new star wars music like the main theme, the bounty hunter and trooper stuff, alderaan and my personal highlight, the sith empire combat music which is badass. then there are some great variations of williams music like the theme for the Jedi Knight and Order.Then there is some stuff that is barely recognizable as new music like the romance and final battle cues.just a rework of a williams cue. and finally the boring, overcomplex background stuff which leads nowhere.
what i hate is that almost every cue is around 1min. a lot of the cues feel like cut before the theme can be played in full.it really needs to be arranged as suites.as i said before, it should leave 1 hour of good, 1 hour of great music from the whole thing.which is enough IMHO.

a tangotreated skyward sword album is more than welcome. looking back at all those fabulous suites you have brought us, this should be delicious.

Mine is not for completists, and it's not for Zelda nuts. It's for fans of orchestral music who wish to enjoy it upon its own merits.

Can't wait for your version then. Don't care for Zelda very much, just for the music (especially after the "symphony", even if it's not symphony... but I just love the music and arrangements). Also I really have no time (or actual desire) to skim through 3 or 4 hours of music, jut to find an hour of good music. So I really wait for: Tango Presents: Skyward Sword:). And BTW, the mario olympics is truly awesome. Very nice music. Shame that's only 20 minutes.

....pretty much all of the stingers can go....

So does that include the Master Sword fanfare?

Looking forward to Tango's music. I will say the as usual though, this Zelda game has the same sense of profound, cute and lasting feeling to it. Its just an amazing series of games with some wonderful characters and stories. The music now being orchestral really adds to this special game.

So does that include the Master Sword fanfare?

I'm chucking out the unimportant stuff. That definitely qualifies as important. ;)

Fifty tracks all with absolutely nothing but one crescendo chord, or three notes on the harp - that sort of thing

Thanks for taking the time to work through a Skyward Sword album. I am looking forward to hearing your version.

On the topic of Zelda music ... now with EXTREME VIOLIN PLAYING! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWyI-58gpic&feature=youtu.be)

I don't dare listen to Skyward Sword's music before playing the game, but I would like to know, and I know that you guys are qualified to answer, is this gonna be what I want it to be? I'm interested in Hajime Wakai as a composer, I like his style but I don't think that he got to write with his full potential in most of his previous work, and I want this soundtrack to be the one where he reaches that. Is the orchestration good quality? For that matter, is the synth good quality? (I swear, the synth in the Kakariko Village theme in Twilight Princess would make me feel sick.) And, finally, does it sound like real Zelda music?

Wow I am surprised to see that members here are against listening to the music before playing the game, just like I know some are against listening to the soundtrack before watching the movie. That stance always intrigues me because I don't consider the music as getting spoiled by listening to it first. Sometimes I will even skip a game if the soundtrack is atrocious.

Wow I am surprised to see that members here are against listening to the music before playing the game, just like I know some are against listening to the soundtrack before watching the movie. That stance always intrigues me because I don't consider the music as getting spoiled by listening to it first. Sometimes I will even skip a game if the soundtrack is atrocious.

Tracktitles.

and do'nt forget the torment and dissapointment of missing your favorite cue of the album because its either unused, or tracked over, and even worse MISSING cues.

Um, when did a tracklist ever give major spoilers to anything besides The Phantom Menace? There have been tons of times that I have listened to a score before bearing witness to a media and I don't think I have been spoiled. Neither do I think I have ever arranged my rips in such a way.

Besides, there is a very easy solution. Right click the .zip, tell it to extract to folder, then do play all in the explorer menu! Do it quick and you won't see anything besides the first few tracks.

Tracktitles.

and do'nt forget the torment and dissapointment of missing your favorite cue of the album because its either unused, or tracked over, and even worse MISSING cues.

Track titles would spoil if I actually paid attention to them while listening, which I never have. Even then, there have been instances where I have gone so far as to read through the liner notes that essentially spoiled the entire movie before watching it and it didn't detract from my experience with the film. Unless you are already familiar with the names of the characters, hearing that Character X dies is meaningless because the name doesn't mean anything to you by itself.

I pretty much hate the spoiler track titles. Even if I don't know who a character is beforehand, I know what's gonna happen eventually when that character shows up. I wasn't thinking really of spoiler titles in this case, though. I want mainly the surprise of everything in the game; don't want to know anything but the most general stuff about it or any other game, movie, or show I plan on experiencing myself. Not even gonna read reviews, definitely not gonna watch gameplay footage. This is Zelda, my first gaming love, I want to feel it as it happens, all together. But second, yes, having everything with titles and in a nicely organized fashion is another good reason I'm holding off. Enjoyment is greatly enhanced when tracks aren't jumbled together randomly and there is a traceable grand scheme instead of a pile of unassembled puzzle pieces. And it seems there is dynamic music and stuff like that is best listened to while playing the game. It's tough to listen to Banjo-Kazooie outside the game for me because you get four or five variations of the same piece right next to each other, and I want to hear them all but not like that, not one after another and not spread apart from each other either. Although I don't expect this to be as extreme as that.

I'm kind of pleased Toru Minegishi and Asuka Ohta didn't work on this soundtrack. I liked Minegishi's battle themes for Majora's Mask, but, I've said it here before and I'll say it again, Twilight Princess was emphatically not my cup of tea for a soundtrack. Only disappointment about that game for me. Even the new symphonic movement arrangement does nothing for me, and I expected it to be good because surely 17 minutes of good music could be salvaged out of that, IIRC, 6+ hour score. Or was it 8?

Tracktitles.

Actually, I had something spoiled in this soundtrack that had nothing to do with track titles. I heard a certain motif pop up all over the score in some obvious styles that suggested certain things--I'm being vague on purpose of course--that let me know exactly how that certain something played out in the game after knowing what the motif referred to. Goodness, that sounds terrible! Anyway, I must also say that after a few hours of skyward sword I'm even more delighted with the music than before.

I heard a certain motif pop up all over the score in some obvious styles that suggested certain things--I'm being vague on purpose of course--that let me know exactly how that certain something played out in the game after knowing what the motif referred to.

Spoiler by leitmotif -- that's a new one. I like it. ;)

Also, since I don't have a Wii and don't want to sort through hours of a gamerip, I too am looking forward to Tango's presentation of Skyward Sword. The 25th Anniversary CD whet my appetite for Zelda-ness, and the disappointment of Zelda 3D's missed musical opportunity has failed to quench it.

Thanks for Infinite Stratos, klnerfan

Skyward Sword sounds really good, but one day someone is going to have to explain to me why Japanese composers always sound so Japanese in their orchestrations... I mean like if some musicologist has written an article about the genesis and development over the last 70 or so years in the use of melody, rhythm, instrumentation, harmony, etc. There is something different and unique I can't quite pinpoint.

It's not a bad thing, just something I always notice no matter who the composer (with exceptions like Yoko Kanno.) There is a tendency to be very flowery with winds and harp, very direct in the melodic content, very showy in that every piece is like a piece you'd hear at a pops concert, and not so much functional (such a scoring to picture or atmosphere) which is awesome. That Sky theme from Skyward Sword sounds exactly like something you'd hear from one of those Orchestral Game Concert CDs or from the Final Fantasy Tactics soundtrack or practically any Joe Hisaishi score. What is this style?

I know what you mean. I'd say in simplistic terms its rooted in romantic Viennese tradition.


Skyward Sword sounds really good, but one day someone is going to have to explain to me why Japanese composers always sound so Japanese in their orchestrations... I mean like if some musicologist has written an article about the genesis and development over the last 70 or so years in the use of melody, rhythm, instrumentation, harmony, etc. There is something different and unique I can't quite pinpoint.

It's not a bad thing, just something I always notice no matter who the composer (with exceptions like Yoko Kanno.) There is a tendency to be very flowery with winds and harp, very direct in the melodic content, very showy in that every piece is like a piece you'd hear at a pops concert, and not so much functional (such a scoring to picture or atmosphere) which is awesome. That Sky theme from Skyward Sword sounds exactly like something you'd hear from one of those Orchestral Game Concert CDs or from the Final Fantasy Tactics soundtrack or practically any Joe Hisaishi score. What is this style?

@Sirusjr:

I usually don't wait for a game or a movie to be released to enjoy the music but Zelda is a rare exception as music always played a huge part in it ... and I was right on that one. Some themes and motifs (even chord progressions) would have spoiled the game for me. Who we will face, what happens to some characters, who will be important, which old tune returns etc. is all told by the music.

I recently finished the game and while not everything lived up to my high expectations, the game was still a great experience and by god are the credits glorious! Whoever came up with the idea to arrange the Main Theme to a waltz at the end is a freaking genious. BUT I have a huge issue with the synth tracks. I understand the concept of synth used for the surface world and the dungeons but major scenes in the game, especially at the end, still had synth. Even the parts before and after the Credits ?!. I like Kondo and Miyamoto as much as the next guy but their love for synth is something I do not share, especially since the stuff in the game is miles apart from what Sakimoto does. It's not bad, but also not memorable. Most of the synth tracks felt like they belong in Donkey Kong or Rayman, not Zelda.
Still, the orchestral music is among the best I've heared this year. From the Opening, Zelda's Theme (Romance Trailer) and the Sky to the Boss Battles and the Final Confrontation, everything was a blast. Even the origin of the series Main Theme is explored in this game (Song of the Hero).

So i just finished to listen Tintin and now i can't stop playing 'The Pursuit of the Falcon'.
Is it the great action packed track composed this year? Because if there's one better then i want to hear it! :D

[QUOTE=tangotreats;1841593]Yen! Are you all right? Are you still in the UK? I feared that you may have been in trouble after the Earthquake. It's good to see you're still around. :)

Yes, am fine and am back in blighty now - thanks for asking TT. Was in Tōhoku for quite a while helping friends clear up after March's earthquake/tsunami. It is good to be back and catch up on all the wonderful posts and discussions here.

Tango, any updates on the Zelda Skyward Sword "album"?

does anyone have this album

Davis: The Beatles For Orchestra

Davis: The Beatles For Orchestra: Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, Carl Davis: Amazon.co.uk: Music (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054QPNFW/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_g15_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OL E&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=08XECNVN7BPK3AV7XRAZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294)

dying to have it :)

Okay guys, I have a few rips that you'll probably be interested in.

First off, I have a 186 track version of Skyward Sword that is a combination of Klnerfan's and Ruzlix's arrangements. All credits go to them - I just renamed some tracks to make them sound less corny and made some covers.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/flac-mp3-legend-zelda-skyward-sword-gamerip-98302/9.html#post1858408

Secondly, yesterday patch 4.3 (Hour of Twilight) for World of Warcraft came out so I arranged the new music into a soundtrack.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/world-warcraft-music-patch-thread-91741/2.html#post1857816

Thirdly, I am uploading Lineage II: The Chaotic Chronicle, a fantastic orchestral game score by Bill Brown.

Okay guys, I have a few rips that you'll probably be interested in.

First off, I have a 186 track version of Skyward Sword that is a combination of Klnerfan's and Ruzlix's arrangements. All credits go to them - I just renamed some tracks to make them sound less corny and made some covers.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/flac-mp3-legend-zelda-skyward-sword-gamerip-98302/9.html#post1858408

Secondly, yesterday patch 4.3 (Hour of Twilight) for World of Warcraft came out so I arranged the new music into a soundtrack.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/world-warcraft-music-patch-thread-91741/2.html#post1857816

Thirdly, I am uploading Lineage II: The Chaotic Chronicle, a fantastic orchestral game score by Bill Brown.

Thanks, although I think people in this thread would prefer Klnerfan's version alone. Available here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/flac-mp3-legend-zelda-skyward-sword-gamerip-98302/3.html#post1855505)

Nobody needs ten hours of Skyward Sword. There's fifty minutes of good music in there, tops...

The idea is to let the downloader decide what is good and delete what they don't. There is a point when quality stops being objective and becomes subjective, after all. I do think there can be an overload, but I am not quite sure my version quite reached that point.

does anyone have this album

Davis: The Beatles For Orchestra

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0054QPNFW/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_g15_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OL E&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=08XECNVN7BPK3AV7XRAZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

dying to have it

@Sirusjr:

I usually don't wait for a game or a movie to be released to enjoy the music but Zelda is a rare exception as music always played a huge part in it ... and I was right on that one. Some themes and motifs (even chord progressions) would have spoiled the game for me. Who we will face, what happens to some characters, who will be important, which old tune returns etc. is all told by the music.

I recently finished the game and while not everything lived up to my high expectations, the game was still a great experience and by god are the credits glorious! Whoever came up with the idea to arrange the Main Theme to a waltz at the end is a freaking genious. BUT I have a huge issue with the synth tracks. I understand the concept of synth used for the surface world and the dungeons but major scenes in the game, especially at the end, still had synth. Even the parts before and after the Credits ?!. I like Kondo and Miyamoto as much as the next guy but their love for synth is something I do not share, especially since the stuff in the game is miles apart from what Sakimoto does. It's not bad, but also not memorable. Most of the synth tracks felt like they belong in Donkey Kong or Rayman, not Zelda.
Still, the orchestral music is among the best I've heared this year. From the Opening, Zelda's Theme (Romance Trailer) and the Sky to the Boss Battles and the Final Confrontation, everything was a blast. Even the origin of the series Main Theme is explored in this game (Song of the Hero).
Probably because all of the special music effects (like in OOT's shadow temple and forest temple) would be hard and expensive to do orchestrally.

Yo what about The Dark night recording sessions and the complete score thanks again

This guy is trolling. He has to be.

...Right?

This guy is trolling. He has to be.

...Right?

who?

The idea is to let the downloader decide what is good and delete what they don't. There is a point when quality stops being objective and becomes subjective, after all. I do think there can be an overload, but I am not quite sure my version quite reached that point.

Yes but as a listener and from knowing Klnerfan's good taste, I would be inclined to trust his choice for what is good and isn't good and leave it at that. I just don't have the time to go through a huge gamerip and delete the junk.

Great news !

Aquarion will get a sequel and you know what this means ... Yoko Kanno has returned to reprise "her" work !

I also have something in store for december, even something I know some will love and others not so much, but I believe a bit of controversy and discussion is something very welcome in this thread and I would like to discuss the merit of enjoying simple but "fun" music despite the technical shortcomings. But more on this later this month, I'm currently busy with my studies, unfortunately.

Is it actually confirmed that Kanno is coming back to score Evol? As far as I was aware, she has been announced as writing the opening credits song, but nothing else.

I see the name Ayako OTSUKA being bandied about. I bet you any money you like that Otsuka is writing filler music on the cheap using Kanno's themes, and Kanno's music from Aquarion will be recycled for setpieces. Thus meaning that Kanno's name can stay on the show without anybody having to actually pay for her.

I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong... but 2005 was a long, long time ago in anime years. Everybody is thinking this means we will get a ravishing Warsaw Philharmonic and hours of music Kanno score for 2012... It's just not going to happen.

Well, the only source of information I could find is from AnimeNewsNetwork, which lists both under "Music", but Kanno having the additional roles of Theme Song Arrangement (OP), Theme Song Composition (OP), and Theme Song Producer. But ANN also gave her those roles for the prequel. I am thinking it may be a little both, in that, Kanno is doing the Opening Theme as well as collaborating or splitting the work with this Ayako Otsuka (who as far as Google can tell me is a Japanese embroidery designer!).

Ayako Otsuka: Ayako Otsuka/Prismix top (http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~prismix2/)

Best known for arrangements... *cogs in brain start turning*

[Edit: A blog entry from October states that she has recently been busy writing music for an animation, which she anticipated would be finished recording by November.]

The prospect of somebody other than Kanno scoring it actually makes me rather happy. Realistically... who needs yet another 30 minute medley of classical and 1970s Hollywood film themes?

Dammit

*please don't disappoint, please don't disappoint...*

The first Aquarion was a collaborative work as well, so this isn't too surprising, and I see no reason for all the negativity, as if this has no hope of being nothing but a rehash. That's never been the case with a Kanno work before.

I am slightly worried over the choice of this Ayako Otsuka. Unlike Hisaaki Hogari, who is an excellent electronica composer and frequently works with Kanno and one of my favorite singer/songwriters, Akino Arai...Otsuka has precisely one credit to her name and the only thing I could look up on it made a point of highlighting the music's forgettability. Still, I'm hoping Kanno will handle the brunt of the work. Gibven her history with this series and Kawamori, I have little reason to doubt she will.

Otsuka's presence is precisely what makes me worry... What does it usually mean when a popular show with a memorable score comes back for a sequel, and in the music credits you see somebody who is known as a proficient arranger, but a less-than-memorable, or comparatively untested composer...? The score will be a cut and paste job; the new person makes some relatively low-budget variations on the famous composers' melodies from the original to fill in gaps, and the original music will be re-used wherever possible. (And, plagiarism aside, is it really possible to better Kanno's work on Aquarion? That's one serious hell of a score that I don't think anybody would relish hanging over their heads... If I were Kanno, and somebody asked me to score a sequel to something that I did years ago and had attained a cult following, I'd run for a million miles because whatever I wrote, there would be the inevitable "It's not as good as the first one..." moans that usually accompany sequels...

The whole thing reeks of cheap. Even listing Kawamori as "Chief Director" and relative unknown Yusuke Yamamoto as "Director" suggests they may be trying to save cash by putting the original (expensive) staff in ceremonial positions and getting other people to do the actual work...

I hope to bloody hell that this isn't the case.

Maybe I'm just being too cautious. Maybe in January this thing will start and we'll hear Kanno's best work to date - it'll absolutely wipe the floor with Escaflowne, Macross Plus, Brain Powerd, and Aquarion put together. Loads of money, loads of time, loads of variety, enormous Warsaw Philharmonic, the works.

A big part of me would love to hear Kanno come back for another enormous score - Macross Frontier was four long years ago, and the original Aquarion in 2005 was arguably the last time Kanno really impressed.

But at the same time, Kanno's had more orchestral sessions than any other composer in Japan with the exception of God-tier musicians like Hisaishi and Sugiyama. If Evol has a nice budget, why not let somebody out there to have a go?

Maybe Otsuka will score it more-or-less solo and she'll use it as her breakout score.

Whatever happens, I hope it produces some good music. I should just shut up moaning and wait for January 8th... ;)

KOSUKE YAMASHITA
Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger Otakara Sound Box 3 (aka, OST 3)
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Thanks so much for this Tango! Yamashita is one of my favorites and for whatever reason until this year I had no clue he did Sentai scores (probably because I'm a Kamen Rider guy, haha). This is a real pick me up.

On a broader note, I wanted to throw my two cents into the pile on the subject of transparency of music in movies as well as the scores of popular movies today so that this sometimes commenter, mostly lurker, contributes something, haha! I think there's an important, I guess, middle perspective that doesn't seem to come up very often. Generally I see the debate as "music should be heard" and "music should be transparent," I think more importantly it's that "music should be felt." I think, and it's certainly been expressed by others before me, that music is the most pure form of emotional expression in a lot of ways, and really great movie music makes you feel. One of my favorite examples of this is Cronenberg's The Fly, with Howard Shore's very Wagnerian score. By contrasting this gruesome horror film with this very theatrical, big emotions score you completely alter the audience's perception of the film. The horror leaves the realm of nervous suspense and becomes one carried by tragedy and desperation. It's a necessary component of the movie's artistic goals.

I tend to watch a lot of movies from the 70's and 80's, and one of my favorite tropes of those years that seems to have disappeared in recent times is sequences of silent film and music, little music videos in the middle of your film. Like my favorite moment in Conan the Barbarian, when Conan leaves his friends behind to seek out Thulsa Doom on his own and all it is is Mako's campfire narration, Conan wandering across Hyborian vistas, and Poledouris' score. It's intimate and emotional. Movies just don't take the time to do that anymore. It even if the music is a pop song it's an effective device to me and the fact that it's so rare to see nowadays speaks of how far music has fallen from public respect both in popular and classical forms. MTV barely even shows music videos anymore. Music is just too disposable. Everything is. Look at Japan where CD's are expensive, not always kept in production, and pirating is very frowned upon: they have a lot of very talented working composers writing the kinds of music you guys want to hear. Music isn't so disposable there. Not yet.

One of the most observed tropes of modern composing conventions is the abuse of percussion in place of actual composing. I've though a lot about that and why that works so well for a lot of people (even myself sometimes). The obvious answer is that it's more transparent. It rides under the image and the actors' voices with less competition. But that's something that would satisfy a studio or a director. I still firmly believe audiences respond powerfully to powerful music. What I've concluded is that percussion is a very primitive form of music. I don't mean that in the diminutive sense, but in the sense that it was one of our first instruments and has a very forceful, primitive appeal to it. I've often observed this as part of rap and it's origination in urban black culture: it's really sort of an evolution of tribal rhythm and oral tradition. It's something that I think is in our blood. So when people respond with accolades to Hans Zimmer, which often has little affect to the educated listener who really do think more about it, I think it's appealing to them on very visceral level that they crave. When Zimmer's score is accompanying Batman racing to the rescue, it's nothing but the raw urgency of assaultive percussion. I imagine it echoes in the hearts of an audience like war drums, something discarding frivolous intellectualism for the necessity of survival.

I do genuinely think it's a relevant approach to composing. I think the world is big enough for everyone to experiment, try what they want to, find their sound. But the case with film music, especially from a professional experience, that this style/concept/technique has become the product of corporate encouragement and is stifling the industry does make it a terrible and sad thing. But I do think there's a silver lining. I believe even within these limitations there is room for experimentation, growth, and ultimately change. I often want to take the basic elements at play that find so much derision and see what can be done with just them. Can a score be made out of popular limitations that would please even this discerning crowd? I think so. Sometimes I even think that score will come from this crowd. I think it must.

I hope Kanno returns for some more Aquarion. The Kanno mystery has yet to be solved and we need to hear more to solve it. Has it really been 4 years since Macross Frontier? Why would someone with such great talent and fondness for orchestral music be so shy to cash in on it and instead resorts to scoring commercials? If I could compose something like Aquarion I'd be composing something like it once a week!

Otsuka's presence is precisely what makes me worry... What does it usually mean when a popular show with a memorable score comes back for a sequel, and in the music credits you see somebody who is known as a proficient arranger, but a less-than-memorable, or comparatively untested composer...? The score will be a cut and paste job; the new person makes some relatively low-budget variations on the famous composers' melodies from the original to fill in gaps, and the original music will be re-used wherever possible. (And, plagiarism aside, is it really possible to better Kanno's work on Aquarion? That's one serious hell of a score that I don't think anybody would relish hanging over their heads... If I were Kanno, and somebody asked me to score a sequel to something that I did years ago and had attained a cult following, I'd run for a million miles because whatever I wrote, there would be the inevitable "It's not as good as the first one..." moans that usually accompany sequels...

A big part of me would love to hear Kanno come back for another enormous score - Macross Frontier was four long years ago, and the original Aquarion in 2005 was arguably the last time Kanno really impressed.

Well, previous work in a franchise and high expectations never stopped her from writing strong, entirely new material for the Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne and SAC films. I suppose I know too little on the matter of the show's production to say whether it seems like a quick cash-in or not, but I'm preffering to err on the side of devil's advocate with this one. I'm just happy to see my favorite composer back.

Plus, Frontier may seem so very long ago, but it's not like she's just been stagnating all this time. She's written for RO2(several times), scored an independent film just last year, done lots of very nice commercial work and singles for Illaria, and speaking of Frontier...perhaps it just fell through the cracks since the tv show was long over and pop music obviously isn't the forte here, but she's been pumping out new work for the franchise and its respective films pretty much nonstop for years. Maybe very little of it is what we wanted, but the rumors of Kanno's dissapearance have been greatly exxagerated, I feel, especially when everyone else is writing scores for some new show, sometimes several, every year.

True... I just worry about the direction she's going in... the odd pop song, the odd commercial, the odd five minutes of music for the latest Frontier knockoff, etc... What happened to the big event score for the big event anime that had everybody salivating? Either she's not being asked (possible, since a Kanno score is an expensive one - and you will also need a good pot of reserve money to pay for the plagiarism lawsuit that inevitably follows) or she is being asked but she's saying no for whatever reason. In either case, it's worrying - in the former case, about the anime industry in general, and in the latter, about Kanno's own personal career direction.

Perhaps, to paraphrase Elmer Bernstein, she's just "too rich and too famous to give a shit" any more...

Let's hope something wonderful happens with Evol. Looking at trailers, promotional videos, etc, it looks like they're at least making an effort.

We shall see, in a matter of weeks.

When I listen to tracks like MACROSS FRONTIER - SOUNDTRACK II - Test Flight Delight - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EpYvOZDfU) which are like mini-concert works wrapped up in a neat little package, I don't get the impression it is written by someone who is satisfied by writing music for overly sentimental commercials and dramas. Then again, she might be following the James Horner model and only picking projects that are meaningful to her.

For a period of time it seemed Horner was only content to score dramas, and anything that actually called for some orchestral creativity and mastery (usually cartoons or children's movies) was handed off to a bunch of orchestrators to flesh out. I'm referring to Horner's works where he obviously had a lot of outside help and possible ghostwriting like A Far Off Place, The Pagemaster, We're Back, Jumanji, Balto, Legend of Zorro. If Horner felt it was beneath him to write such pandering (yet highly potent) music then we can only conclude he prefers not to flex his orchestral muscels when he doesn't have to. He's just not a fan of big, orchestral action music, like the kind in this thread. What else can we conclude if he doesn't take the opportunity to score movies like 300 or the new Conan the Barbarian? He has the skills to blow us away with those, but chooses not to. Just because he needs Troy/Avatar/Spiderman-sized paychecks to give a damn about writing big orchestral music? Does he feel he said all he needed to say in those days of Krull, Willow, Star Trek? Was that just a period of youthful arrogance and experimentism? Did he fall out of love with Prokofiev's music? So many questions...

While I was typing this "The Fight For Tomorrow" from the Battle Royale 2 soundtrack came on and halfway through it sound very similar to the action music from Titanic or Mask of Zorro. Did we go over this at one point?

To bring this back to Kanno, it's possible she has a knack for orchestral writing but prefers not to indulge in it unless the paycheck demands it. It's really hard to believe this if the orchestral music is so well written, which is why I believe the Horner/orchestrator/ghostwriter theory. Again, good orchestral music has always ever been written by those composers who love orchestral music UNLESS they had outside help. Otherwise Kanno is a genius orchestrator who prefers not to write orchestral music. That I cannot accept.

When I listen to tracks like MACROSS FRONTIER - SOUNDTRACK II - Test Flight Delight - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EpYvOZDfU) which are like mini-concert works wrapped up in a neat little package, I don't get the impression it is written by someone who is satisfied by writing music for overly sentimental commercials and dramas. Then again, she might be following the James Horner model and only picking projects that are meaningful to her.

For a period of time it seemed Horner was only content to score dramas, and anything that actually called for some orchestral creativity and mastery (usually cartoons or children's movies) was handed off to a bunch of orchestrators to flesh out. I'm referring to Horner's works where he obviously had a lot of outside help and possible ghostwriting like A Far Off Place, The Pagemaster, We're Back, Jumanji, Balto, Legend of Zorro. If Horner felt it was beneath him to write such pandering (yet highly potent) music then we can only conclude he prefers not to flex his orchestral muscels when he doesn't have to. He's just not a fan of big, orchestral action music, like the kind in this thread. What else can we conclude if he doesn't take the opportunity to score movies like 300 or the new Conan the Barbarian? He has the skills to blow us away with those, but chooses not to. Just because he needs Troy/Avatar/Spiderman-sized paychecks to give a damn about writing big orchestral music? Does he feel he said all he needed to say in those days of Krull, Willow, Star Trek? Was that just a period of youthful arrogance and experimentism? Did he fall out of love with Prokofiev's music? So many questions...

While I was typing this "The Fight For Tomorrow" from the Battle Royale 2 soundtrack came on and halfway through it sound very similar to the action music from Titanic or Mask of Zorro. Did we go over this at one point?

To bring this back to Kanno, it's possible she has a knack for orchestral writing but prefers not to indulge in it unless the paycheck demands it. It's really hard to believe this if the orchestral music is so well written, which is why I believe the Horner/orchestrator/ghostwriter theory. Again, good orchestral music has always ever been written by those composers who love orchestral music UNLESS they had outside help. Otherwise Kanno is a genius orchestrator who prefers not to write orchestral music. That I cannot accept.

Elaborate? Not really sure where you're pulling a lot of that from. Don't forget jetting off to London, Isreal and the like for recording isn't cheap by any stretch, or that Kanno writes all kinds of music and orchestral has never been her main focus, or that what with Kawamori's gigantic binding contract over her since 2008, people might just want to hire other people for once. That's not even getting into the current dire state of the anime industry; there haven't really been any big anime events in recent memory. You still hear of big overhyped fan-faves occasionaly, but nowadays those are otaku-aimed, moe-centric affairs, and those get scooped up by Kajiura and the like simply due to popularity and her familiarity with the director or staff.

I just find the orchestral music, from Macross Plus to Escaflowne to Aquarion to Macross Frontier, taken at face value, as music by a person who prefers that type of music. Better yet, someone who loves that kind of music, and has a big collection of Prokofiev, Williams, Goldenthal, etc. sitting on a shelf at home. Any success in J-pop and jazz and other genres are simply side-effects of good classical training (see My Heart Will Go On.) Yes, the anime industry is suffering from an artistic deficit at the moment, but that is not reason to give up on your passion for big, orchestral action music.

Wait macross frontier had actual music besides the generic pop songs? I better listen to those again.

As far as the role of music in film lately, I was pleasantly surprised by the way Hugo used music in the film. The film had many lovely moments, most notably the opening sequence, where there was little if any dialogue and the music was used as the primary driving force. This was also what gave Howard Shore the chance to write such a fantastic and beautiful score as he did with all the wonderful themes used in Hugo. It was such a lovely return to classic style, fittingly connected to the film's emphasis on the history of silent films. If you haven't seen Hugo in theaters, I highly recommend it (and in 3D if you can).

As far as the role of music in film lately, I was pleasantly surprised by the way Hugo used music in the film. The film had many lovely moments, most notably the opening sequence, where there was little if any dialogue and the music was used as the primary driving force.

That was the first of many wonderful surprises in that film. It's interesting that those sequences where it's simply music and image, divorced of dialogue, is occasionally referred to as "pure cinema" as it harkens back to the earlier days of the medium (appropriate for Hugo ;) ) and avoids the "crutch" of dialogue to drive the story. It's a device that isn't used often enough any more, though when it is employed -- as in Hugo, or the beginning of Trek 2009, or "Married Life" from Up -- it is often considered a highlight of the film.

On that same note, there's a film called "The Artist" in limited release that is about a silent film star and, thusly, the film was made as a silent film and there seems to be a fair amount of gushing about its score. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be playing anywhere near my podunk neck-of-the-woods.

That was the first of many wonderful surprises in that film. It's interesting that those sequences where it's simply music and image, divorced of dialogue, is occasionally referred to as "pure cinema" as it harkens back to the earlier days of the medium (appropriate for Hugo ;) ) and avoids the "crutch" of dialogue to drive the story. It's a device that isn't used often enough any more, though when it is employed -- as in Hugo, or the beginning of Trek 2009, or "Married Life" from Up -- it is often considered a highlight of the film.

On that same note, there's a film called "The Artist" in limited release that is about a silent film star and, thusly, the film was made as a silent film and there seems to be a fair amount of gushing about its score. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be playing anywhere near my podunk neck-of-the-woods.

Yeah, The Artist looks like a fantastic movie but it doesn't seem to be getting very wide release. It looks like it is opening near me on December 16 so I will have to check it out as nothing else is opening that week worth watching. I already listened to the score at length and it is magnificent.

I keep hearing really terrific things about Hugo, but I have no idea what to make of it myself. I should go out and see it. All of the news and previews leading up to it kind of put me off. I can't effectively describe why. I really should know better than to let the veil of marketing keep me from a movie, as I enjoy 90% of what I see from one perspective or another. And, come to think of it, I had no idea who was behind the score until just now. I just never investigated it. It's been one of those years.

I've been hearing raves about The Artist as well. I had some friends who caught it at the Savannah Film Festival and really talked it up. I've been watching that director/actor teams previous ventures: the OSS 117 update/parodies on Netflix recently. They've been remarkably fun. The first in particularly is as much a quality genre entry as it is a parody of the genre itself. Of course the music is a fun impression of Eurospy films past. If The Artist manages to capture the soul of silent film as reverently as the directors irreverent spy films captured theirs, then it will be amazing.

May I ask you another favor?

Please don't upload too many cues in a same post (yes I know, I did it myself, but it was only to make a good starting point). With too many tracks people are overflooded and can't "digest" all the music. A better way is to upload one or a few tracks at a time, so we can concentrate on it and appreciate it as it deserves.

And then you can post again later other cues that matters to you, and so on.

I don't know if anyone shared this here. But I am Re-uploading them in some dead threads. :)

I love the soundtrack and the "sad" theme is catchy that I had it in my head for days :D If I did not knew I would kept n saying this was Yoshihiro Ike sound. Which in fact it is.... There are a lot of symphonic tracks that made me recall KARAS soundtrack. Yoshihiro Ike worked as adviser here. So no wonder I felt it's finger on it.
I finished watching this anime, and I was joyed with the soundtrack. The "Diva" song is beautifully great. Opera :)
We need more opera in anime :p


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BLOOD+ ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK 1 (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/blood-original-soundtrack-1-rapidshare-34620/#post1866347)

Release date: 2006.04.26
Catalogue number: SVWC-7345
Label: Aniplex In.c

Music Composed by: Mark Mancina
Produced by: Hanz Zimmer
Adviser:Yoshihiro Ike

Tracklist:

01. Saya's Victory
02. Chasing The Enemy
03. Saya-Nara
04. Being Chased
05. BLOOD+ Countdown
06. Saya's Daily Life
07. Vampire Battle
08. Chasing Thru Time
09. Saya's Destiny
10. Saya's Courage
11. The Vampires' Threat
12. BLOOD+ The Final Battle
13. Saya's Love
14. BLOOD+ Grand Theme
15. Diva


☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

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BLOOD+ ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK 2 (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/blood-original-soundtrack-2-rapidshare-34536/#post1866346)

Release date: 2006.09.27
Catalogue number: SVWC-7387
Label: Aniplex In.c

Music Composed by: Mark Mancina
Produced by: Hanz Zimmer
Adviser:Yoshihiro Ike

Tracklist:

01. The Vampires' Consipiracy
02. RUN!
03. Isolation
04. Twisted Tension
05. BLOOD+ Attack
06. Saya's Joy
07. BLOOD+ Red Herring
08. The Red Shield
09. Infiltration
10. Squaring Off
11. Fear The Change
12. Violent Vampires
13. Saya's Fear
14. Saya's Lonliness
15. Witness the Vampires
16. Diva Awakens
17. Saya's Battle Theme
18. Diva (instrumental version)

[QUOTE=Orie;1866349]I don't know if anyone shared this here. But I am Re-uploading them in some dead threads. :)

I love the soundtrack and the "sad" theme is catchy that I had it in my head for days :D If I did not knew I would kept n saying this was Yoshihiro Ike sound. Which in fact it is.... There are a lot of symphonic tracks that made me recall KARAS soundtrack. Yoshihiro Ike worked as adviser here. So no wonder I felt it's finger on it.
I finished watching this anime, and I was joyed with the soundtrack. The "Diva" song is beautifully great. Opera :)
We need more opera in anime :p

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Thanks for sharing these great scores Orie. I loved Diva, sung by Elin Carlson, too, and the Grand Theme is magnificent and you can hear the influence of Zimmer and Holst in it.

I notice though that the bit rate is only 160kbps. Would you mind if I add the 320kbps versions? I have collected all three non-classical discs, artwork and notes in one download file here:

MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UQ1LE4OS)

That is what I had only. Be my guest sharing it ;)

I have been writing a story inspired in Japanese young artist, and I am not sure about how many chapter it will have. And I am making a compilation of some symphonic tracks, in which I envision it better with. I am wanting a symphonic approach on it, and quitting any kind of guitar or electronic sounding. I want the reader be able to imagine and travel along the flow with the music and the words.
You can read the story clicking in my banner. :)

The Soundtrack (http://www.mediafire.com/?6fp980x057dgu6p) is only 14minutes. I just present you the tracks for that chapter.

Gimme opinions after reading it. :)

For all the goldsmith fans in this thread, Intrada just released a new version of The Sand Pebbles. I know the Varese version has been long out of print so it is lovely to finally get a copy of this.
SAND PEBBLES, THE (2CD) (http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7333/.f)

For all the goldsmith fans in this thread, Intrada just released a new version of The Sand Pebbles. I know the Varese version has been long out of print so it is lovely to finally get a copy of this.
SAND PEBBLES, THE (2CD) (http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7333/.f)

I am really on this fence on this one I have the Varese CD, which is 30 tracks with a great booklet.

Not sure I can justify this purchase.

I am really on this fence on this one I have the Varese CD, which is 30 tracks with a great booklet.

Not sure I can justify this purchase.

Well the samples should tell you if it is any improvement on sound quality. I didn't ever get to snag the Varese edition so I ordered this one right away without any regard to whether there was an improvement in audio.

I don't know if anyone shared this here. But I am Re-uploading them in some dead threads. :)

I love the soundtrack and the "sad" theme is catchy that I had it in my head for days :D If I did not knew I would kept n saying this was Yoshihiro Ike sound. Which in fact it is.... There are a lot of symphonic tracks that made me recall KARAS soundtrack. Yoshihiro Ike worked as adviser here. So no wonder I felt it's finger on it.
I finished watching this anime, and I was joyed with the soundtrack. The "Diva" song is beautifully great. Opera :)
We need more opera in anime :p

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Thanks for sharing these great scores Orie. I loved Diva, sung by Elin Carlson, too, and the Grand Theme is magnificent and you can hear the influence of Zimmer and Holst in it.

I notice though that the bit rate is only 160kbps. Would you mind if I add the 320kbps versions? I have collected all three non-classical discs, artwork and notes in one download file here:

MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UQ1LE4OS)

http://i40.tinypic.com/3g9ra.jpgI have those Blood+ soundtrack CDs, unfortunately I kinda "lost" the first one (not sure where the heck it went, along with some other CDs). :( But the second one is still around (in hand). :)

Is it just me, or is there a recurring phrase in "War Horse" that sounds very similar to Sakimoto's music for Rabanastre in FFXII? "Learning the Call" and "The Homecoming." I really don't want the image of Vaan to pop-up in my mind in the middle of the film...

I don't want the image of Vaan in my mind ever.

Guys just so you know, I'll be posting a selection of the best tracks from FFXIII-2 soon. I'm whittling it down slowly and then I will post two versions, one with everything that was solidly melodic and one with just the orchestral stuff, of which there is some great material. The orchestral will of course be included in the first set as well.

You liked FFXIII-2?

It really suffers from Hirano's absence. Hamauzu again is overrated and unbearably dull. The only vaguely decent music (maybe five or ten minutes out of five bloody hours) is by Naoshi Mizuta. Apart from that, it's a lot of noise; an ill-conceived barrage of cheap racket, overbearing vocal tracks, cheap synth, and Hamauzu's typical "treat every instrument like a piano, repetitive snare rhythm, off key piano noodling, generic themeless themes, etc.

Oh, well... it's not a total train wreck so I suppose we should be grateful for that.

I'm War Horse von Rothesburg of Dalmasca, piping in to say count me in among the peeps who're adoring XIII-2. Course, I'm a sucker for Hamauzu, vocals, and chillout electronica, but I'd never have guessed Mizuta would've turned it around so much for this score. It's always a treat watching artists visibly improve over time, and this is a far cry from the initially dull material in XI. I suspect he had a lot of help from mixers and orchestrators, of course, but still, it's quite an eye-opener, especially with Shitimoto sitting around churning out the same boring, flat riffs of stoic dross and getting rimjobbed for it.

And the synth here is anything but cheap. Absolutely not. See Type-0 if you want cheap sound quality, but here? Your ears are broken.

I was going to start complaining, but "Shitimoto" made me laugh far more than it should've done (I am now wiping coffee off my keyboard). ;)

The more I listen to him, the more I wonder what people are raving on about. He's just not very good. The handful of good pieces in his scores are inevitably covered in the sonic fingerprints of his arrangers... And whereas I find Hamauzu to be a generally crap composer whose raw material tends to work very well in the hands of a good arranger... Ishimoto is just a generally crap composer.

As for FFXII-2, the synth isn't the worst in the world, but in comparison to what can be done, it's cheap.

Perhaps this will grow on me...

As for FFXII-2, the synth isn't the worst in the world, but in comparison to what can be done, it's cheap.


I can't help but salivate at the thought of what a XII-2 score would sound like(well, not the title. That would sound dumb.), especially if the whole Basiscape team got involved. Or hell, maybe pull an upset and give it to Asuza Chiba alone. Kaneda impressed me this year with Grand Knights History, but the more I revisit Opoona and Muramasa and even just their arrange albums, the clearer it becomes that Chiba is the shining star of that group. She really deserves her own breakout assignment and I'll be forever greatful to Sakimoto for finding her.

I don't want the image of Vaan in my mind ever.

It's amazing how one character can so utterly ruin a game. Yet I'd buy an HD version if Squeenix releases one. JRPGs have been such crap this generation.

It's amazing how one character can so utterly ruin a game. Yet I'd buy an HD version if Squeenix releases one. JRPGs have been such crap this generation.

Him and Penelo. And get rid of Fran's bunny ears and sex suit. THEN I'd buy it...if it came out for PC.

LOL Tango I never said I liked FFXIII-2 on the whole. Some of the music is very well done while most of it is like you said boring trash with too much club-style electronica.

I actually like FFXIII-2, even if Hamauzu just don't know what development means (especially in action music, so repetitive...). Also the score sounds more like new Persona soundtrack with all those songs with cheesy lyrics. Probably after triming (minus 3 hours), it will be pretty good listen;). But, to be honest, I expected something worse.

Final Fantasy XIII-2 Highlights
Orchestral|Choral|Piano|Vocals
MP3 320kbps
Full Highlights - Includes Orchestral Selections
22 tracks - 1:19:47 - 176MB
Download (http://www.multiupload.com/TTR7GWM9B4)
PSW: smile

Orchestral Selections
10 Tracks - 36:23 - 80MB
Download (http://www.multiupload.com/I3X9K9DR0M)
PSW: smile

List of tracks in highlights:

Full Highlights:
106, 107, 111, 112, 118, 216, 306, 312, 313, 318, 319,
401, 406, 407, 410, 412, 413, 414, 416, 417, 418, 420
Orchestral Selections:
106, 107, 118, 216, 306, 313, 318, 319, 417, 418, 420

Hey, very nice! I'll go for the Orchestral Selections first!



Nobody needs ten hours of Skyward Sword. There's fifty minutes of good music in there, tops...

I recently had (at last) the possibility to give Klnerfan's version of Skyward Sword a few listens (following Sirusjr's advice), and clearly I had to trim it down to get something really satisfying as a standalone experience. My principle to do such selections is roughly based on the question: "In ten years, will I probably listen to this track again (because it's so well done / enjoyable / special / memorable, etc.)?" Based on this idea, what I came up with is a 65 mn version of pretty much good music to my ears, and a really appreciable album experience (even if it's possible to improve it by rearranging the tracks order).

Here's my tracklist, for people interested:

01 Main Theme.mp3
02 Opening.mp3
03 A new Legend begins.mp3
09 Meet Zelda.mp3
10 Zelda's Theme.mp3
12 Skydiving (Intense).mp3
14 Enchanted by Zelda.mp3
20 Loftwing.mp3
24 The Sky.mp3
25 Battle in the Sky.mp3
31 Stalfos March.mp3
35 Lord Ghirahim (Dance).mp3
39 Scaldera.mp3
42 Moldarach.mp3
43 Clash on the Bridge of Time.mp3
44 Link to the Rescue.mp3
46 Pals.mp3
51 Victory Fanfare.mp3
53 Fi's Dance.mp3
57 Tentalus (Second Phase).mp3
60 Hylia's Theme (Zelda's Lullaby).mp3
61 Master Sword.mp3
62 Song of the Hero.mp3
64 The Triforce (Great Fairy's Fountain).mp3
67 Demon Blade Ghirahim (First Phase).mp3
70 Freeing the Demon King.mp3
72 The Demon King.mp3
76 Demise (Second Phase).mp3
77 Fanfare of the Hero.mp3
78 Fi's Goodbye.mp3
82 End Credits.mp3

Is the Groosinator music included in that?

BTW, I am doing pretty much the same thing with Twilight Princess, however there are alot more tracks that I am including.

You know, I'm glad you guys have the courage to trim this down. I don't have the guys to delete any of the massive 11 hour rip that was just released. I am something of a completionist when it comes to these rips - if it's music, I want it in my folder. I would just feel guilty getting rid of it otherwise!

EDIT: Oh, and before I forget, I have finished a rip of StarCraft II. You can find it my big rip thread - just click on the link in my sig! I'm trying to consolidate things here.

Coincidence. I'm just posting something for all the people who are still waiting for an offical release for Skyward Sword. I spent a few hours working with the music and this is the result.



Download Link (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/PS2JVRXZ/Skyward_Sword.7z_links)

All the important stuff, proberly edited and structured: 40 Tracks and 90 minutes of music.
The Boss Battle Intermezzo is now part of the Boss Battle track, all orchestral tracks with variations have been edited and rearranged. I've also tried to reduce the looping as much as possible and to give the duel with Demise a prober conclusion (perhaps the best Final Boss in a Zelda game). Think of this as version 2.0 of my first compilation (or as an unoffical soundtrack). Sort of an early Christmas Present for you guys :)

All the important stuff, proberly edited and structured: 40 Tracks and 90 minutes of music.
The Boss Battle Intermezzo is now part of the Boss Battle track, all orchestral tracks with variations have been edited and rearranged. I've also tried to reduce the looping as much as possible and to give the duel with Demise a prober conclusion (perhaps the best Final Boss in a Zelda game). Think of this as version 2.0 of my first compilation (or as an unoffical soundtrack). Sort of an early Christmas Present for you guys :)

Hey, Did you know if you paste the first portion EXACTLY over the looped porion and invert the first portion, you can remove some/most of the instruments from the looped portion?

It makes it much easier to get clean endings.

Ah, would have been good to know. Still, I hope Nintendo will someday learn that looping orchestral music is fine ingame but terrible as a standalone listen (at least for me). Please let the music on the offical release be without any loops (not like Galaxy or Star Fox).

If you want I can upload a track as an example of how it would sound...

Would be interessting. I did the best I could with what I had but if it gives the tracks a prober conclusion then I'm all for it.

Or you could just do it properly and edit the tracks individually, instead of titty-farting around with inverted waveforms and phase errors.

Ah, would have been good to know. Still, I hope Nintendo will someday learn that looping orchestral music is fine ingame but terrible as a standalone listen (at least for me). Please let the music on the offical release be without any loops (not like Galaxy or Star Fox).

Really? I despise when game tracks don't loop on the album, especially the lovely orchestral work(with credits tracks and the like being the obvious exceptions). I had enough of that shit with everything that ever came out up to FFIV. Unless it was written with a clear "ending" in mind, I want it to loop so I can get my fill of a great melody without having to rewind incessantly. That's just how game music works, fancy orchestra or not. I see how editing the tracks works for one of your suites, but taken as an album release? Nuh-uh.

Heres my thing with no-ending releases, if its orchestral, there HAS to be an ending, they don't usually naturally fade out, it may be the ugliest, raggedest thing ever, but there HAS to be somekind of ending that was recorded.

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Or you could just do it properly and edit the tracks individually, instead of titty-farting around with inverted waveforms and phase errors.

???

Heres my thing with no-ending releases, if its orchestral, there HAS to be an ending, they don't usually naturally fade out, it may be the ugliest, raggedest thing ever, but there HAS to be somekind of ending that was recorded.

Why? It's just a different instrumental context. What does that have at all to do with requiring something other than the same fade out as every other BGM, aside from pretensions of simulating some sort of concert experience or prestige?

So you believe that the musicians in the orchestra just played the same thing over and over and then just gradually faded out?

So you believe that the musicians in the orchestra just played the same thing over and over and then just gradually faded out?

No more than I believe that any other live instrumentalist plays the same tune constantly, be they an orchestra or a guitar player or just farting around with a kazoo, but that's not the point. Incidental BGM in video games is by its definition ephemeral and peacemeal and has to make its impact as quickly as possible, establishing a base idea and developing in usually about a minute and a half, and without a loop, that would be it. What's satisfying about that? In context, they work around this by looping the melody to help it germinate in the mind and provide continuous background support, and it works out-of-context because, as gamers, we're used to the idea of it looping and enjoy having the catchy melodies repeated because without repeat, the vast 99.99% of VGM would be entirely too short to be a worthwhile listening experience. It's just the nature of the beast and those who dislike that probably don't play games or enjoy game music anyway. Being written for an orchestra witholds it from this no more than being written for live guitar or piano ensemble or anything else, and the exceptions to this(Soukaigi, etc) are rightly appluaded but were written to be full-bodies and have a definite end in the first place, sometimes to the detriment of how much it "fits" within the game itself.

You just do not get what I am saying, I am saying there IS an ending, its illogical to believe that an orchestra fades out nicely like on a gamerip.

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Would be interessting. I did the best I could with what I had but if it gives the tracks a prober conclusion then I'm all for it.

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It's literally no more illogical at all than any other sort of live ensemble track just fading out as if that would happen in real life, but nobody ever complains about it with those inferior other genres because orchestral music is special. Jesus.

It's literally no more illogical at all than any other sort of live ensemble track just fading out as if that would happen in real life, but nobody ever complains about it with those inferior other genres because orchestral music is special. Jesus.

Orchestral music usually tells a story, if an audiobook faded out before the narrator reached the ending, you would (most likely) be complaining.

I agree that loop is not bad, just a different form of music in video games. What I have a problem with are the tracks that have an intro, then they loop (I'm ok with that) BUT they dont have an outro!?. I'm talking about certain orchestral cues that tell a story or are used at key moments in a game, a musical piece that was recorded with a beginning and an end. I understand if you loop that piece ingame, but for an album release? Outcast, Medal of Honor or Ni No Kuni did not have looped tracks on the album although the music is looped in those games.
A good example is the Fated Final Battle in Galaxy 2. That piece loops aswell but has a prober conclusion ... so why are not all the orchestral tracks on the album like that. THAT'S what I'm complaining about.

Orchestral music usually tells a story, if an audiobook faded out before the narrator reached the ending, you would (most likely) be complaining.

All (good) music tells a story. You've still yet to make a point so much as just broadcast a bias.


I agree that loop is not bad, just a different form of music in video games. What I have a problem with are the tracks that have an intro, then they loop (I'm ok with that) BUT they dont have an outro!?. I'm talking about certain orchestral cues that tell a story or are used at key moments in a game, a musical piece that was recorded with a beginning and an end. I understand if you loop that piece ingame, but for an album release? Outcast, Medal of Honor or Ni No Kuni did not have looped tracks on the album although the music was looped in those games.

Which tracks are you referencing specifically? Because outside of maybe tension motifs and such, most clearly "written for cutscene" music doesn't loop at all in game and I can't think of any examples that do so on album. I've never played Outcast or Medal of Honor, but Ni no Kuni's music was almost entirely for cutscene use, much like those last two Xenosaga cd's. Okami's Rei Kondoh wrote the in-game score and was entirely omitted for whatever reason. (Edit: Nevermind. I don't remember where I read that Kondoh was involved, but what gameplay footage I could find seems contrary to that.)

My point is, if there is a true ending for a cue, include the whole piece with the ending on the album release.

A good example is the Fated Final Battle in Galaxy 2. That piece loops aswell but has a prober conclusion ... so why are not all the orchestral tracks on the album like that. THAT'S what I'm complaining about.

Because A.) It doesn't have an ending, not really. It reaches a swell that kindasorta resembles a climax and that's it.(Matter of fact, it does "end", sorta, after the loop. It's incredibly abrupt, but it fits the apocylptic tone, I suppose) And B.) cause without the loop, it wouldn't even break 1:30. And every other non-event orchestral piece in the score is like that.


I think what he's getting at is that music that is designed to loop - and intrinsically composed with that in mind - then tacking an ending on to it does not really achieve anything.

That. Especially if it means slicing the tracks in half just so they feel more "self-contained." That doesn't bolster the album experience, it just needlessly truncates it, makes it feel diminished and far less cohesive. It's the same reason why I leapt for joy when the complete box edition of Kingdom Hearts II finally looped the tracks and made it feel like a more developed, less brief and scattershot affair, and why my heart sank like an anvil in the Mariana Trench when the box set release of Secret of Mana didn't.

I think what he's getting at is that music that is designed to loop - and intrinsically composed with that in mind - then tacking an ending on to it does not really achieve anything.

I would agree; though I think that often these looping pieces are written with at least one eye on how they would function as a self-contained concert work. Ni No Kuni as a prime example; Hisaishi wrote music that loops and works in that context, but which also functions as standalone compositions. He even wrote (and recorded) endings to the looping cues which are never heard in the game, but which are appropriate to the album environment.

After giving it some more thought I wonder if a game soundtrack should try to tell a story (Hisaishi appoach = loop tracks get endings) or just be a compilation album of music used in the game. I prefer the first but can live with the second (Galaxy or Star Fox are just minor complains afterall, the music is still excellent).

@NaotaM: My Skyward Sword version is not as bad as you think. Most tracks still loop and fade out since there exist no endings as of yet. I've just tried to make it less reptitive with more variations and combined certain tracks.

After giving it some more thought I wonder if a game soundtrack should try to tell a story (Hisaishi appoach = loop tracks get endings) or just be a compilation album of music used in the game. I prefer the first but can live with the second (Galaxy or Star Fox are just minor complains afterall, the music is still excellent).

Why can't they be both? :)

I mean, if every composer working today took Hisaishi's approach(putting aside his experience in film scoring for a mo, much like with Kanno and her non-looping game scores) and started writing every last piece as a traditional beginning-middle-and-end concert movement, that'd be peach pie. But for now and as before, I've had no problems dreaming up vast worlds and epic tales with the far more common latter variety.

Why can't they be both? :)

I mean, if every composer working today took Hisaishi's approach(putting aside his experience in film scoring for a mo, much like with Kanno and her non-looping game scores) and started writing every last piece as a traditional beginning-middle-and-end concert movement, that'd be peach pie. But for now and as before, I've had no problems dreaming up vast worlds and epic tales with the far more common latter variety.

Pretty much my opinion. Better structure is preferable, but if the music is good enough, I'll take it anyway I can get it.

And klnerfan, THANK YOU for your refined Skyward Sword condensation! I've been trying to get through your earlier version and, while finding bits and pieces quite enjoyable, was having a tough time of it. Very much looking forward to this.

Thanks for the better Skyward, klnerfan. :)


Orchestral music usually tells a story, if an audiobook faded out before the narrator reached the ending, you would (most likely) be complaining.

Not necessarily. Some music tells a story, and some is just there for the mood, whether it's orchestral or not. Cutscenes generally do feature "story-telling music" indeed, but it's rarely the case for level music, which is specifically designed to set a BG ambience, even when it feels like being highly cinematic and narrative, like in Lair or Headhunter. Level tracks are purposely designed to loop, so it's probably better to leave them like that (unless of course there *is* a conclusion that has been written).


So you believe that the musicians in the orchestra just played the same thing over and over and then just gradually faded out?

Possibly the most cleverly sarcastic (or sarcastically clever) thing you've said in this forum. Kudos.

But seriously, the composer knew when the fading had to stop, so he just conducted the piece a bit ahead of this point, and then the orchestra just stopped playing, without fancy conclusion. Pretty simple.

I understand where NaotaM is coming from. I can't believe I just said that! ;)

I hope he won't mind me saying, but I believe that his unique style of arguing is causing folk to think he's saying something he isn't.

The ideal - from a musical perspective - is obviously to write music that has structure. Numerous scores over the years have proven that it's eminently possible to write something that establishes a fairly constant, consistent mood and seamlessly loops, whilst still keeping an eye on the structural integrity of the piece. Some composers go out of their way to compose "up" to those additional demands. Some do it because it's simply within their compositional mindset to write something self-contained. To any classically minded composer, a piece of music that doesn't have a beginning or an end is an absolutely alien concept. Other composers will do it to cover their asses should a soundtrack album or concert performance materialise. They know the function that the music will have in-game, but they also realise that music has a set of demands that are separate to the demands of the medium they are writing for.

I find that a lot of music written for games does tend to have that sense of structure. Skyward Sword fits that category. Sure, the music is designed to loop. But it's also quite clear where the natural ending is. Any piece of music which is anywhere near competently written will have a natural sense of completion. In those cases, a proper finish is the preferred option.

If, however, the music doesn't have that sense of structure, any choice as to where it finished will feel arbitrary and like just turning off a piece of music halfway through. In those cases, a fade is the best option; not an ideal option from a listening-to-music perspective, but the best way to help media music transition into something it wasn't primarily intended to be.

So you believe that the musicians in the orchestra just played the same thing over and over and then just gradually faded out?

Joseph Haydn - Symphony #45 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7v1S7Rl_s)

Joseph Haydn - Symphony #45 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7v1S7Rl_s)

Thats not the same thing.

I'm happy to hear the positive opinion most of you have about looping music on the soundtracks. Unless the development is substantial in one go, I have a hard time being cool with music not looping on the soundtracks, and hence I loop and post soundtracks I like that don't do it on their albums. But with the last one I did, I posted the original in the same thread too and more people downloaded the unlooped version. Between that, buying a couple modern albums that don't loop, and the thread on VGMdb about people's looping preferences and easily the majority of its answers being unfavorable, I thought I might have been the only one! Game music composers are conscious of when the music will loop in the game and try to adjust their writing accordingly. And usually game music is closer in composition to rock/pop or other more modern music forms of music than classical, even when it does use orchestral-type sounds, and think of how short the average song by your favorite band would be if it didn't repeat its verses and choruses.

I can't say I have a problem with orchestral music fading out, but likely there was some form of ending, even if it's not a new section of music, so in that case my preference would be for it to loop if it was made to loop and then after it has use the ending that was recorded. Sound like a good compromise?

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Interesting conversation about looping. To be honest, it hasn't become a gripe for me to catch because whether if the song fades looped when there is a true written ending attached to the original, it wouldn't bother me. I feel that if i enjoyed it then it should be enough satisfaction for me. But then again this was before i read the topic and now when i listen to a new soundtrack i'm going to keep my ear open even more. In all honesty however, i believe if a soundtrack engages you and you enjoy every moment, then it shouldn't matter if there was a true ending. Im sure the composer had just as much of a role to approve what you'll be hearing and how he envisioned it on the official release. Whats more important in my eyes, is how much Video Games has grown to attach quality music from known composers, and new ones. It'll only get better from here!

I was dissapointed with Michael Giacchinos Score for Star Trek..but he delivers with John Carter.
John Carter's Theme (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B00re4Cw9ig)
Pursuit of Dejah (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgOZYv8kmSs)
Dejah's Theme (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWb6K6ZZAbw)

Joseph Haydn - Symphony #45 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7v1S7Rl_s)

Forget it, mate - he has no sense of humour.

Faleel: I have no idea what you're talking about - as usual. Previous experience suggests you are talking nonsense.

Hater: So far, cautiously optimistic about John Carter! This is rather what I was expecting from Super 8. It's another step in the right direction, that's for sure! I found Super 8 very bland, but this is a whole lot more exhuberant - and the themes are a lot more grown up. Really looking forward to this one. :)

It doesn't matter if Giacchino writes a solid score for John Carter. Varese is just going to fuck up the mastering anyway. Just look at how bad the sound is on HTTYD and Super 8. They sound so much more natural in the film. I like the sound of those samples though.

John Carter's Theme (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B00re4Cw9ig)
Pursuit of Dejah (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgOZYv8kmSs)
Dejah's Theme (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWb6K6ZZAbw)

Awesome stuff. Hope survives.

I have been hearing "Odin: Photon Space Sailor Starlight" soundtracks. Being composed by Hiroshi Miyagawa and Kentaroh Haneda, I have been very much delighted with it.
But I notice something, and I have to agree with a very old issue discussed by Tangotreats (I think it was him who did not like Masamichi Amano that much. If not, correct me please :p).
There is symphonic track by Kentaroh Haneda, and.... I do not know if Masamichi Amano worked with Haneda after getting solo, or if it was his student, but that particular cue, Masamichi Amano used it ( a bit like copy-paste ) for the main theme of Urotsukidoji. I was sad when I found about this, what makes get to the side of tangotreats, where I think he once said that Masamichi Amano copies some cues. (Again, if it was not you "tango" enlighten me better of your opinion of him. :) ). Another reason that get's me a bit mad, is that there is nowhere any info, that in Urostukidoji that same track WAS originally COMPOSED by Kentaroh Haneda. on the vinyl it clearly says "composed & arranged: Kentaroh Haneda". Why was it not credited in it originally.:/
Some of you may already that my love for Kenji Kawai, Koh Ohtani, Kuniaki Haishima & Kohei Tanaka, is higher and maybe obsessive XD.
But Hiroshi Miyagawa and Kentaroh Haneda, will always be at my heart. :) I think that their symphony is very unique of them and it really looks made for has to travel in our mind while listening it. Space Battleship Yamato.... I have had some many space travels in my mind with those soundtracks....

Hello :)

I was amongst the group of people dismayed at Amano's "borrowing" - one step away from Yoko Kanno's notorious standard of out-and-out plagiarism... I don't think I've ever expressed a dislike for his music as a result, though; Amano, like Kanno, pulls off the thefts with such panache that I find myself curiously easy about forgiving them, or at least overlooking them in favour of the bigger picture. Amano has written some of Japan's finest scores of the past twenty years. A few stolen themes, even a few stolen compositions (Battle Royale, Giant Robo, Stratos 4, Urotsukidoji, etc, etc) cannot possibly completely overshadow his considerable talents - both as composer and orchestrator.

The Japanese attitude to plagiarism seems very different to what we're used to in the west; ironically it has more in common with the old Classical era, where themes would be endlessly recycled, the same overture would be heard on six different operas, and composers thought nothing of closely mimicking and developing on the stylistic tendencies of their precedessors. (Haydn -> Mozart, Beethoven -> Brahms, Wagner -> Korngold, etc, etc.)

I'd love to ask these guys why they did it... and I expect the answer would be as simple as "I needed some raw material, I was running out of time, I liked this theme, so I used it." and for some reason, I can live with that. It's nothing like the recent Elliot Goldenthal / Tyler Bates case; a clearly inferior composer (Bates) lifts whole sections of Goldenthal's score because, frankly, he doesn't have the skill to write something of his own, to the same standard.

The Japanese, though - it's more workmanlike. When I hear Amano nick cues from Basil Poledouris' Starship Troopers in Battle Royale, with a handful of cosmetic changes to arrangement, key, and melody, it bothers me less because I know he's not doing it to try to cover up his own inadequacies. He's a great composer on his own - but one who, presumably, is always right up against the wall with regard to time constraints and sometimes employs some very rubbery morals in order to get the job done to the required standard.

In fact, I have been missing GOOD orchestrations of Yoko Kanno. I am getting sick of her "Cowboy Bebop" syndrome. :/ I loved Brain Powerd (something that it seems I am the only liking that soundtrack), and Escaflowne were some of my favorite of her. I do not know ALL compositions of our past mentors in orchestrations and symphonic cues, as well I do not know every symphonic composers soundtracks. But I can appreciate something that is rather marvelous to my hears. :)
That fact of the plagiarism I see it in a different way. Yoko Kanno, is more then proved that she has many influences of ancient European compositions of her favorite symphonic composers; I see it not as Plagiarism, but more like inspired on it. For example, I have great influence of both kenji kawai and yoko kanno. Yoko kanno because of her drum compositions in a lot of soundtracks, and kenji kawai because of his horror environment thing. Tough I have never composed for a full orchestra, but most of my "voice demos" and "acoustic guitar demos" flow from that. I inspire on them to express myself, but not necessarily playing things they already composed. I do my own compositions but I may be influenced by them. Yoko Kanno inspired herself on those composers. That is how I see. Ok, she sometimes borrows certain famous themes of great composers, yes, I cannot say she do not do that, but in Brain Powerd I think it worked very well. I know she got the theme from a piece of Bethoven...... I think..... or was it Mozart-...?
Not sure now. :/ But I know it is from someone "ancient". I know this because I heard in a symphonic channel the theme of Brain Powerd and I thought I was seeing a Yoko Kanno concert. XDXD

I don't have these soundtracks. Is there any way I can hear the Odin track and the similar one in Urotsukidoji? Are they on youtube?

Also, I remember hearing an Amano track, I can't remember if it was in Giant Robo or something, where he reused the choir music from Battle Royale. Does anyone remember what soundtrack he did that in?

Kanno's definitely taken inspiration from the past masters - just like we all do if we're musically inclined. If you make music, that part of you that makes music was shaped by the music of others. It's natural, and beautiful.

But she has also, unquestionably, stolen and plagiarised on an unprecedented scale.

Brain Powerd was fairly mild. Everybody has a go at a Beethoven theme, or a Mozart theme, or a Paganini theme. It's like a "composers right of passage" to do something with a melody written by one of the past greats.

But when Kanno lifts entire passages - orchestration, melody, key, everything - from the classical repertoire, or more frequently from Hollywood's back catalogue... and does so multiple times per score, frequently multiple times per cue, well, you just can't argue with that one. It's still delightful music, and Kanno's skill in interpolating all these dozens of different pieces of completely unconnected music into coherent, consistent, self-contained cues, is just jaw dropping. In 2008, Streichorchester, myself, and some others, wrote at fair length about these various examples. If you can look beyond myself and NaotaM competing to see who could be the biggest jackass, there's a wealth of Kanno plagiarism discussion that's well worth reading.

Most of the discussion online seems to concentrate on Kanno's thefts outside of her orchestral music - but this discussion was more-or-less completely centered around it. I threw together some MP3 examples of some of the most flagrant thefts and those MP3s are still buzzing round the internet and getting quoted all over the place - from Anime News Network through to the Gabriela Robin fansite, and a few others.

As I say, it's worth going through it if you're interested. :)

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Streich: The Giant Robo theme is Bill Conti's North and South theme. Is that the one you were thinking of? Most of the Battle Royale thefts I'm aware of seem to come from Poledouris' Starship Troopers... But there's so much, it's hard to keep track of it all sometimes!

I don't have these soundtracks. Is there any way I can hear the Odin track and the similar one in Urotsukidoji? Are they on youtube?

I will upload it soon, right after I finish what am I doing now. ;)


Kanno's definitely taken inspiration from the past masters - just like we all do if we're musically inclined. If you make music, that part of you that makes music was shaped by the music of others. It's natural, and beautiful.

But she has also, unquestionably, stolen and plagiarised on an unprecedented scale.

Brain Powerd was fairly mild. Everybody has a go at a Beethoven theme, or a Mozart theme, or a Paganini theme. It's like a "composers right of passage" to do something with a melody written by one of the past greats.

But when Kanno lifts entire passages - orchestration, melody, key, everything - from the classical repertoire, or more frequently from Hollywood's back catalogue... and does so multiple times per score, frequently multiple times per cue, well, you just can't argue with that one. It's still delightful music, and Kanno's skill in interpolating all these dozens of different pieces of completely unconnected music into coherent, consistent, self-contained cues, is just jaw dropping. In 2008, Streichorchester, myself, and some others, wrote at fair length about these various examples. If you can look beyond myself and NaotaM competing to see who could be the biggest jackass, there's a wealth of Kanno plagiarism discussion that's well worth reading.

Most of the discussion online seems to concentrate on Kanno's thefts outside of her orchestral music - but this discussion was more-or-less completely centered around it. I threw together some MP3 examples of some of the most flagrant thefts and those MP3s are still buzzing round the internet and getting quoted all over the place - from Anime News Network through to the Gabriela Robin fansite, and a few others.

As I say, it's worth going through it if you're interested. :)

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Streich: The Giant Robo theme is Bill Conti's North and South theme. Is that the one you were thinking of? Most of the Battle Royale thefts I'm aware of seem to come from Poledouris' Starship Troopers... But there's so much, it's hard to keep track of it all sometimes!

I know very well of that and the "hate club" of yoko kanno XD (sorry , it is funny for me to say to that. XD)
I understand that might feel "angry" about her "copying" almost everything to Her. Not gonna argue you with that. The more I listen Yoko Kanno in certain soundtracks the more I get .... lost about her. I do used to have a great admiration of her. But I really do feel a great lack of full symphonic stuff from her like she did old days. One of the things I loved her right on, was her versatility on composing many genres. Not being strict to one genre only. I like when composers do that. I t means they are not just inside one rule only. But this is something of me now. I like to break rules (not about criminal ones, but more breaking rules that do to not inquire to hurt someone or any other criminal thing).

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Very weird..
I am not finding the Amano track I talked in the osts. :/ I am sure I heard it in the soundtracks.

If anyone has the tape this song equal to Kentaroh Haneda one plays when Chojin blows up the hospital and get's really Huge. I tried to find on youtube something.... but no luck. :/

Kentaroh haneda Odin track: 05 Kuukan Yousai Karada BELGEL.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?83s4tsil9me0btg)

Streich: The Giant Robo theme is Bill Conti's North and South theme. Is that the one you were thinking of? Most of the Battle Royale thefts I'm aware of seem to come from Poledouris' Starship Troopers... But there's so much, it's hard to keep track of it all sometimes!
No no, it was the nice choral music from the end of Battle Royale that was also in an anime. It surprised me, but I forgot what it was and am too lazy to find the post I made about it. Oh well...

Ohh, hang on a minute... The solo choir piece? Theme Of Eternal Love from Super Atragon!

Time to order my Kanno and Amano collection. Speaking of Amano, only in Japan will you find advertisments with orchestral music for a rerelease of a porn series.

EDIT: I found a preview for 2012's big Ultraman score http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9d3Q_7gHz4. Sounds very promising.

You don't even know the half of it.

Close, it was that Theme of the Hyuga Family from Super Atragon and A New Journey from Battle Royale. Not the exact same, but shares a lot of the same harmony, phrasing, etc.

.............This is Fumio Hara?!

And, granted, it's buried in sound effects... but is this a real orchestra, as well? Could it be? Finally?

I think it's interesting to hear the games they've been playing with the music since 2007.

2007 - orchestral Sahashi score for TV series.
2008 - cheap synth score for TV series, orchestral Sahashi score for movie.
2009 - synth score for movie
2010 - Mostly synth score for movie with orchestra in the important bits
2011 - ??? (Orchestra back again???)

Looks like they've been tiddling around seeing if they could save money and have decided that real is always preferable.

Thanks for that! The score itself is released next week, so we shouldn't have long to wait. It's out on the 21st if memory serves. Since it's Ultraman you can bet it'll turn up on here ten minutes after release...

This together with Gundam Age and the Old Republic! What a wonderful Christmas :D

Update: I'm sure the horns are fake. Optimism waning...

Update: I'm sure the horns are fake. Optimism waning...

How could you tell under the sound effects, the announcer, and the rest of the orchestra. Keep your optimism until you get the score on your hard drive. THEN you can do your classic Tango rant.

its a disney movie, therefor won�t be a varese release.worst case is digital only.those 3 tracks are not even mastered, its from the recording sessions last week.

its a disney movie, therefor won�t be a varese release.worst case is digital only.those 3 tracks are not even mastered, its from the recording sessions last week.

Uh...Cars 2, Up, Captain America and Thor got a commercial release...

Uh...Cars 2, Up, Captain America and Thor got a commercial release...

UP only got a CD release when Intrada released it. Cars 2 only got a soundtrack release because it had some songs on the CD. Captain America wasn't a Disney release, and was released by Varese. Thor was also not a Disney release, but released by Buena Vista Records. Still, that gives me some hope that we might not see John Carter released by Varese, and maybe we'll get some quality mastering.

How could you tell under the sound effects, the announcer, and the rest of the orchestra. Keep your optimism until you get the score on your hard drive. THEN you can do your classic Tango rant.

Because I know the sound of EWQL Gold *anywhere*.

Ohh, hang on a minute... The solo choir piece? Theme Of Eternal Love from Super Atragon!

Never got my ears on Atragon. It is here waiting for me to listen it it. Overall what Amano may do at least we can be sure to have orchestra. I am getting a big "Longing" of Symphonic pleasures.


Speaking of Amano, only in Japan will you find advertisments with orchestral music for a rerelease of a porn series.

Sadly Hentai anime never had (except Amano's Urotsukidoji) releases of soundtracks. Some 10 years ago, it was broadcasted a lot of hentai anime in a teenager channel ( XDXD ) where they broadcasted a lot of comedy sex hentai, which in fact was very funny, specially when there were episodes where you had no sex at all. Yes I saw t just because never have seen that kind of things. I just curious. XD But I live I could live well without seeing it. XD
One of the things that bug me, is that I have heard some great symphonic stuff in some hentai comedy stuff. Be it "Slice of life" or "action", or even "fantasy", there were really great full orchestra you could hear. I don't remember what hentai had that, since I I never recorded, but I never forgot a cue where you hear a harp in harmony with an acoustic guitar, and then a lot of strings entered, but the harp was the lead. Just by remembering it makes me have the chills. I almost felt I was listening Tomoyuki Asakawa's Harp.

How could you tell under the sound effects, the announcer, and the rest of the orchestra. Keep your optimism until you get the score on your hard drive. THEN you can do your classic Tango rant.

Hahahaha! It's an absolute STINKER. There's about 3 minutes of orchestra, if that, and that's the dreadful "theme" by Kenji Kawai. The bulk of the score is themeless ambient noise.

Utter, unmitigated crap.

GOD DAMMIT!


(I want Sahashi back)

lol, tyler bates strikes again!

Let's cheer ourselves up with a little preview from my work-in-progress Skyward Sword album.

This is one with a difference; it isn't competing to be the longest, the most complete, the loudest, or the best. It exists to present all of the noteworthy orchestral music in Skyward Sword; slotted together to form a satisfying and coherent album. To divorce it as far as possible from its origins as a "video game soundtrack" and allow it to exist as a purely musical experience.

Here's one track - a very rough edit of, I hasten to add - that demonstrates the right way to deal with looping. Some tracks now have natural conclusions - others have been combined and loop sensibly where necessary. The variations built in to the original multi-track recordings have been incorporated not with a view to simple using them all, but to build suspense and make sense musically.

Oh, yeah - and the clumsily edited, damaged introduction to the End Credits has been properly repaired!

Download -_Zelda_Rough_Cut.mp3 from Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple file sharing sites (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/01V4BYYY/-_Zelda_Rough_Cut.mp3_links)

With any luck I'll be finished by January. :)

Sounds good! (where did the ending come from BTW?)

Let's cheer ourselves up with a little preview from my work-in-progress Skyward Sword album.

This is one with a difference; it isn't competing to be the longest, the most complete, the loudest, or the best. It exists to present all of the noteworthy orchestral music in Skyward Sword; slotted together to form a satisfying and coherent album. To divorce it as far as possible from its origins as a "video game soundtrack" and allow it to exist as a purely musical experience.

Here's one track - a very rough edit of, I hasten to add - that demonstrates the right way to deal with looping. Some tracks now have natural conclusions - others have been combined and loop sensibly where necessary. The variations built in to the original multi-track recordings have been incorporated not with a view to simple using them all, but to build suspense and make sense musically.

Oh, yeah - and the clumsily edited, damaged introduction to the End Credits has been properly repaired!

Download -_Zelda_Rough_Cut.mp3 from Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple file sharing sites (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/01V4BYYY/-_Zelda_Rough_Cut.mp3_links)

With any luck I'll be finished by January. :)

And with no luck you will be finished by December 2012!

...Oh God no. Tango, please, take all the luck you can get.

EDIT: Anyways guys, it's Christmas time. The week of holidays! You know what means - free stuff! Food, conversations, perfect excuses to hit that annoying cousin over the head after ten too many eggnogs.

Oh yeah, and gifts too. You guys have uploaded stuff of such caliber of the year(s), easily outmatching any of my stuff, that I feel I should even it up.

This is it: you guys decide on one game - ONE game - for me to rip, arrange, and create a cover for. I don't care what platform it will be, how old or new it is. I will do it. This is my Christmas gift to you.

The only thing you have to do is decide on one without killing each other with harmless words over the internet!

Here, I'll pass out the anti-flame armor. Except you NatoM - your practically made of the stuff.

And with no luck you will be finished by December 2012!

...Oh God no. Tango, please, take all the luck you can get.

EDIT: Anyways guys, it's Christmas time. The week of holidays! You know what means - free stuff! Food, conversations, perfect excuses to hit that annoying cousin over the head after ten too many eggnogs.

Oh yeah, and gifts too. You guys have uploaded stuff of such caliber of the year(s), easily outmatching any of my stuff, that I feel I should even it up.

This is it: you guys decide on one game - ONE game - for me to rip, arrange, and create a cover for. I don't care what platform it will be, how old or new it is. I will do it. This is my Christmas gift to you.

The only thing you have to do is decide on one without killing each other with harmless words over the internet!

Here, I'll pass out the anti-flame armor. Except you NatoM - your practically made of the stuff.

D'aww, thanks. Years of dealing with dummies on-and-off the screen have only made me less flammable. And hopefully smarter; I still can't look at that Kanno thread without facepalming at myself.

How exactly do you mean "rip and arrange"? Do you mean games that don't have official soundtracks or competent rips? I'm curious, because if you ever ripped Secret of Mana and gave it the proper looping treatment, I'd marry you right now. Full-on tongue kiss at the alter and everything.

(It's ok, you don't really have to accept that last part. If I were you, I wouldn't accept the ring either. The kiss, maybe.)

Merry Christmas to all of you.
I will spent this day and most likely the rest of Christmas with my family, watching my favorite episodes and movies, playing my favorite games, reading my favorite books and (of course) listening to my favorite music while sitting in a warm comfortable chair, drinking tea, milk or coffee and eating millions of cookies all day.
Trust me, you don't have to be religious to know that this is heaven.

In America at least, Christmas has become more of a secular holiday rather than a religious one. No need to make this a stupid argument.

Yes i think that exactly is heaven, klnerfan :D

Irreligion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion)

Bullshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit)

In America at least, Christmas has become more of a secular holiday rather than a religious one. No need to make this a stupid argument.

Ah thanks for saying what I couldn't figure out a way to say nicely :) Yes exactly! Sure some people will also go to church and celebrate for religious reasons but that doesn't make the exchange of presents and family gatherings religious in nature. I know I'll be enjoying some fun with the family and sharing film music with my boyfriend (including some amazing scores I put on my list). Maybe some members in this thread will receive a PM with some of those goodies ;)

Time for the chopping block....

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: The Score Album (Expanded Presentation)
Toru Minegishi, Asuka Ohta and Koji Kondo
92 Tracks
Running Time: 04:16:28
Original Rip Running Time: 06:16:08

This is not intended as a "album listening experience" or a "game soundtrack experience" but as a "expanded score listening experience", so almost all the tracks are unlooped and merged with their close cousins and presented in loose chronological order, endings have been either taken from goal/fail fanfares, fabricated, or are just the normal ending without the loops, certain tracks are named and/or misspelled as an homage to John Williams cue names (much like Giacchino's pun's) a few tracks have been dropped because they did not fit into the story being told (Fortune Telling Mansion) or because I did not especially care for them (Agitha's Castle).


Link: Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! (http://www.multiupload.com/XESXDR0NOH)

Tracklist: 01 Fanfare And Title
02 Prologue And Menu* - Intro
03 Rusl And Link - Meet Ilia
04 Ordon
05 Herding
06 Buying The Slingshot
07 Sword Training - Talo Lost
08 The Caves
09 Battle
10 Ilia Takes Horse - Goat Escapes
11 Ilia And Link - King Bulbin Appears
12 Enter The Twilight Realm - Midna
13 Twilight Over Hyrule
14 Mysterious Figure's Story - Princess Of Hyrule
15 Stealing The Sword And Shield
16 The Light Spirit Faron - Searching For The Tears Of Light
17 The Chosen Hero - Hero's Shade's Teaching's
18 Item Fanfares
19 Faron Woods - The Forest Temple
20 Ooccoo
21 The Rescue Of Ook
22 Link And Ook VS. Diababa
23 Fused Shadow - Leaving The Ordona Province
24 Through The Fields
25 The Postman
26 Barnes' Story - Hope In Link
27 Burning The Storehouse
28 Howling The Song Of Healing
29 Renado And The Kids - Of The Gorons
30 The Village Of Kakariko - The Graveyard
31 A Weak Spirit - Epona Returns
32 Sumo Wrestling
33 Back To Eldin - King Bulbin Returns
34 The Horse Battle Sequence
35 The Bridge Fight
36 Courage
37 Climbing Death Mountain - Gor Coron
38 Searching For The Key Shards - Dangoro
39 The Fire Creature - Second Fused Shadow and Darbus
40 You Must Save Ilia
41 The Bridge Trap
42 To Upper Lake Hylia
43 Queen Rutela
44 Howling The Requiem Of Spirit
45 The Last Of The Tears Of Light
46 The Sacred Power - Dark Interlopers
47 Lake Hylia
48 Fyer And Falbi
49 Hyrule Castle Town
50 The Price Gouging Shop
51 The STAR Game
52 Escorting Ilia And Prince Ralis
53 The Lakebed Temple - Deku Toad Battle
55 Zant Takes Fused Shadows - Look Into The Light
56 Midna Is Dying - Reunion With Zelda
57 Sacrifice - Barrier Appears
58 Howling The Prelude Of Light
59 Howling Zelda's Lullaby
60 The Hidden Grove - Stone Guardians
61 The Master Sword - Midna's Request
62 Intermission*
63 Howling The Goron Lullaby
64 Midna's Story
65 Gerudo Desert - The Old Prison
66 The Guardian Of The Spinner
67 Zant's Sword - Stallorde
68 Broken Mirror And Ancient Sages - Divine Prank
69 Recreation On Lake Hylia
70 A Day At The Fishing Hole
71 Learning Of The Reekfish
72 Howling The Ballad Of Gales
73 Snowpeak - Yeto And Yeta
74 Not Take Mirror - Blizzeta - True Beauty
75 Sledding Down Snowbeak
76 The Temple Of Time - Darknaut
77 Armogoma
78 Morricone Village
79 Howling The Ballad Of Twilight
80 Shoot For The Stars
81 Floating City - The Dragon Argrock
82 Great Faerie - Mirror Complete
83 To The Twilight Realm
84 Palace Of Twilight - Phantom Zhant
85 Memory Battle - The True Ruler Of The Twilight Realm
86 Breaking The Barrier - Hyrule Castle - The Resistance - Stairs Of Doom
87 Ganondorf - Evil Zelda
88 Facing The Beast
89 Triforce Triumphs Over Shadows - The Arrows Of Light
90 The Final Battle
91 Finale And End Titles
92 Through The Fields (Alternate)

320kbps (Transcoded ;( )
576MB zip
586MB
*Contains Orchestral piece by Mahito Yokota

Happy holidays everybody!



Joseph Haydn - Symphony #45 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7v1S7Rl_s)

Excellent reference! Quite � propos with the subject, and a fine example of humour in music. ;)



I was dissapointed with Michael Giacchinos Score for Star Trek..but he delivers with John Carter.
John Carter's Theme (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B00re4Cw9ig)
Pursuit of Dejah (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgOZYv8kmSs)
Dejah's Theme (Michael Giacchino) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWb6K6ZZAbw)

One of the very few things I've heard from Hollywood in the last years that really impressed me. I can't believe this comes from Hollywood in 2011, it feels more like a lost score from the eighties or something. Really great stuff, a glimmer of hope in Hollywood's musical decrepitude, and the proof that Giacchino is capable of a lot more than what he usually does.



Time for the chopping block....

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: The Score Album (Expanded Presentation)
Toru Minegishi, Asuka Ohta and Koji Kondo
92 Tracks
04:16:28

Not that I want to diminish your efforts (this is an impressive fan work, bravo), but I don't really see how this fits in an orchestral oriented thread, in fact, at least based on the first ten tracks I listened to. Unless there's some actual orchestral music later? If so, I guess it would have been better to post an orchestral selections instead.



Download -_Zelda_Rough_Cut.mp3 from Mirrorcreator - Upload files to multiple file sharing sites (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/01V4BYYY/-_Zelda_Rough_Cut.mp3_links)

Now, that's more like it. Really impressive, I haven't detected the slightest transition. It really feels like an actual arranged piece taken from a dedicated album. Perhaps your Skyward Sword album will end up being better than the original!

Not that I want to diminish your efforts (this is an impressive fan work, bravo), but I don't really see how this fits in an orchestral oriented thread, in fact, at least based on the first ten tracks I listened to. Unless there's some actual orchestral music later? If so, I guess it would have been better to post an orchestral selections instead.

There are two orchestral pieces in the tracks 2 and 62, and most of it is written in a orchestral style and to tell the truth I was hesitant of whether or not that was enough.

Well, at least it fits in the Zelda topic!

And I've got nothing against music performed by a fake orchestra, *if* the sampler used is reasonably good, which is not the case here, in fact: the one they used sounds really cheap, and thus seriously diminishes the value as a listening experience.

This piece for wind band, published in 2000, sounds very familiar... Sedona - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLu_bH5lKUs)

John Williams, Olympics right?

EDIT: wrong track.

Familiar indeed. Something like 1941 or a Broughton western score, perhaps.

This piece for wind band, published in 2000, sounds very familiar... Sedona - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLu_bH5lKUs)

Silverado!

Time for the chopping block....

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: The Score Album (Expanded Presentation)
Toru Minegishi, Asuka Ohta and Koji Kondo
92 Tracks
Running Time: 04:16:28
Original Rip Running Time: 06:16:08

This is not intended as a "album listening experience" or a "game soundtrack experience" but as a "expanded score listening experience", so almost all the tracks are unlooped and merged with their close cousins and presented in loose chronological order, endings have been either taken from goal/fail fanfares, fabricated, or are just the normal ending without the loops, certain tracks are named and/or misspelled as an homage to John Williams cue names (much like Giacchino's pun's) a few tracks have been dropped because they did not fit into the story being told (Fortune Telling Mansion) or because I did not especially care for them (Agitha's Castle).


Link: Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! (http://www.multiupload.com/XESXDR0NOH)

Tracklist: 01 Fanfare And Title
02 Prologue And Menu* - Intro
03 Rusl And Link - Meet Ilia
04 Ordon
05 Herding
06 Buying The Slingshot
07 Sword Training - Talo Lost
08 The Caves
09 Battle
10 Ilia Takes Horse - Goat Escapes
11 Ilia And Link - King Bulbin Appears
12 Enter The Twilight Realm - Midna
13 Twilight Over Hyrule
14 Mysterious Figure's Story - Princess Of Hyrule
15 Stealing The Sword And Shield
16 The Light Spirit Faron - Searching For The Tears Of Light
17 The Chosen Hero - Hero's Shade's Teaching's
18 Item Fanfares
19 Faron Woods - The Forest Temple
20 Ooccoo
21 The Rescue Of Ook
22 Link And Ook VS. Diababa
23 Fused Shadow - Leaving The Ordona Province
24 Through The Fields
25 The Postman
26 Barnes' Story - Hope In Link
27 Burning The Storehouse
28 Howling The Song Of Healing
29 Renado And The Kids - Of The Gorons
30 The Village Of Kakariko - The Graveyard
31 A Weak Spirit - Epona Returns
32 Sumo Wrestling
33 Back To Eldin - King Bulbin Returns
34 The Horse Battle Sequence
35 The Bridge Fight
36 Courage
37 Climbing Death Mountain - Gor Coron
38 Searching For The Key Shards - Dangoro
39 The Fire Creature - Second Fused Shadow and Darbus
40 You Must Save Ilia
41 The Bridge Trap
42 To Upper Lake Hylia
43 Queen Rutela
44 Howling The Requiem Of Spirit
45 The Last Of The Tears Of Light
46 The Sacred Power - Dark Interlopers
47 Lake Hylia
48 Fyer And Falbi
49 Hyrule Castle Town
50 The Price Gouging Shop
51 The STAR Game
52 Escorting Ilia And Prince Ralis
53 The Lakebed Temple - Deku Toad Battle
55 Zant Takes Fused Shadows - Look Into The Light
56 Midna Is Dying - Reunion With Zelda
57 Sacrifice - Barrier Appears
58 Howling The Prelude Of Light
59 Howling Zelda's Lullaby
60 The Hidden Grove - Stone Guardians
61 The Master Sword - Midna's Request
62 Intermission*
63 Howling The Goron Lullaby
64 Midna's Story
65 Gerudo Desert - The Old Prison
66 The Guardian Of The Spinner
67 Zant's Sword - Stallorde
68 Broken Mirror And Ancient Sages - Divine Prank
69 Recreation On Lake Hylia
70 A Day At The Fishing Hole
71 Learning Of The Reekfish
72 Howling The Ballad Of Gales
73 Snowpeak - Yeto And Yeta
74 Not Take Mirror - Blizzeta - True Beauty
75 Sledding Down Snowbeak
76 The Temple Of Time - Darknaut
77 Armogoma
78 Morricone Village
79 Howling The Ballad Of Twilight
80 Shoot For The Stars
81 Floating City - The Dragon Argrock
82 Great Faerie - Mirror Complete
83 To The Twilight Realm
84 Palace Of Twilight - Phantom Zhant
85 Memory Battle - The True Ruler Of The Twilight Realm
86 Breaking The Barrier - Hyrule Castle - The Resistance - Stairs Of Doom
87 Ganondorf - Evil Zelda
88 Facing The Beast
89 Triforce Triumphs Over Shadows - The Arrows Of Light
90 The Final Battle
91 Finale And End Titles
92 Through The Fields (Alternate)

320kbps (Transcoded ;( )
576MB zip
586MB
*Contains Orchestral piece by Mahito Yokota

And here is the "sequel":

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 72 Minute Album Presentation

Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! (http://www.multiupload.com/39MWWCGJE0)

Thanks a lot, Faleel!

I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread before but there was a stream of a concert with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra playing music from The Golden Age of Hollywood posted a while ago. This has now been released on CD and is called simply "The Golden Age of Hollywood". The sound on there is fantastic, wonderful performance.

Also, BSX recently released a CD called "Music from The Twilight Saga for Chamber Orchestra" which is a lovely collection of pieces from the first three twilight films including some great arrangements of material from New Moon (the one scored by Alexandre Desplat).

It's good to be back again. Here is something to start off the new year.
An hour of excellent material from the theatrical movies of Pokemon: The Next Generation.

Pok�mon: Music from the Motion Pictures (2005 - 2009)

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/folderobr.jpg/)

Music composed by Shinji Miyazaki


Download Link (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/W8MOXCLZ/Pokemon_Music_from_the_Motion_Pictures.7z_links)
MP3 / V0 / 32 Tracks / 63 min


Enjoy

Symphony for ALL!! :D



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ODIN Koshi Hansen STARLIGHT Ongakushuu Vol.1
Odin Photon Sailor Starlight Music Collection Vol.1
オーディーン 光子帆船スターライト　音楽集Ｖｏｌ．１ (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/only-old-anime-osts-bgm-einachi-67259/143.html#post1883226)

Release date: 1985.08.21
Catalogue number: CX-7234
Label: Nippon Columbia

Music Composed & Arranged by:
Anzai Fumitaka (SIDE 2: 06),
Hiroshi Miyagawa
(SIDE 1: 01)
(SIDE 2: 02~05),
Kentaroh Haneda
(SIDE 1: 02, 04, 05)
(SIDE 2: 06)

Performed by:
SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA ODIN
(SIDE 1: 01, 02, 04, 05)
(SIDE 2: 02~06)
T.P.O. (SIDE 2: 01)


(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/00coverh.jpg/)
ODIN Koshi Hansen STARLIGHT Ongakushuu Vol.2
Odin Photon Sailor Starlight Music Collection Vol.2
オーディーン 光子帆船スターライト　音楽集Ｖｏｌ．2 (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/only-old-anime-osts-bgm-einachi-67259/143.html#post1883226)

Release date: 1985.09.21
Catalogue number: CX-7235
Label: Nippon Columbia

Music Composed & Arranged by:
Hiroshi Miyagawa
(SIDE 1: 03, 05, 06)
(SIDE 2: 03),
Kentaroh Haneda
(SIDE 1: 01, 02, 04)
(SIDE 2: 01, 02, 04)

Performed by:
SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA ODIN
(SIDE 1: 02~06)
(SIDE 2: 01, 02, 03)
T.P.O. (SIDE 2: 04)
LOUDNESS (SIDE 1: 01)

Happy new year, guys!


Thanks for more Miyazaki-san! Tango's previous movie post was quite an appetizer for more of this very good composer! A big thanks also for Odin Photon Sailor Starlight. I didn't know these, actually, and since I can see the name of Kentaroh Haneda, this looks quite promising!


Also, I've been listening a LOT to Sahashi's Gundam scores and symphonic suites lately. They're among those albums I try to listen again about every year, notably in order to verify if they're as special to me as they used to be. Sometimes one's musical taste evolves, so it's good to check once in a while if your classics are still so to you. So I listened again to all OSTs and both symphonic albums, and I can assure you that the result of my last fresh listens confirms that not only these Gundam scores and suites aren't any less special to me than before, but in fact they're even MORE astonishing to me! Seriously, this is fantastic music, written and performed with incredible competence, utterly inspired and memorable, and filled with a level of power and majesty I've rarely heard elsewhere in modern media music. I own these albums since about a decade, and each year, when I listen to them again, it seems I discover a little something new, some nuance I didn't notice before, some neat compositional or orchestrational feature I overlooked and that now makes sense to me, partly because my musical knowledge and experience have increased since the previous year.

Especially the symphonic albums are simply breathtaking. This is really something special, and not only to me. Nowadays, you're lucky if you can get just one of such gems coming out in one decade. Sahashi's full talent plainly appears here: his musical mastery, his extremely precise and rigorous writing, his tasteful harmonic sensibility, and his straight yet highly effective orchestrations are fully displayed in glorious fashion. Each note I listen to seems exactly right, perfectly appropriate and utterly meaningful, filled with sense and purpose. No single note is to be taken away nor to be added, as if the structure and balance of each piece was ideal. The whole compositions reflect a sense of perfection I've rarely felt in modern media music. Only composers such as Williams tend to give me this same impression among "modern" composers.

Certainly I've got a favorable bias towards Sahashi's music, so my judgment might sound a little too ecstatic to some of you, but I had to express it anyway, because this is what I sincerely feel about this music. And now I can't recommend you enough to (re)discover these great albums ASAP! (Preferably start with the symphonic suites, then feel free to explore the OSTs if you want a lot more)

By the way, one piece kind of intrigued me. This one, between 1:00 and 2:20.
War - Chapter 5 - Souten ni Yureru Ken to SAkebi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgLv_hamy0s)
This part is absolutely superb music, but sounds oddly familiar, like if it came from a late Romantic work or something. It has a rather pronounced Ride of the Walkyries feel, but it's far enough to sound original, and the writing is typical Sahashi anyway. Unless it's a ripoff of another Romantic piece I can't identify. Could one of the distinguished gentlemen well versed in Classical music tell me if it's a ripoff or an original piece? Because if it's actually original, Sahashi truly *is* a GREAT composer!

I second that. Don't know about War but over the years Sahashi has come very close to my absolute favorite Hisaishi. I've tried to hunt down everything even remotley Sahashi related but there is still tons of stuff not available on the net or at the very least not posted in this thread. A shame that Seijuu Sentai Gingaman or Agito Ongaku Shu (great choral pieces (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0VDXSKPW/Sahashi.7z_links)) are still not available in high quality.
I could also write essays about his great talent to craft memorable themes, complex or simple, and his even greater talent of merging compositional styles and musical genres successfully. Unlike many modern composers he is also able to hold a theme for several minutes and writes pieces so energizing and exciting that the term epic is not even close to describe what I'm feeling when listening to it.

After listening to a great part of his work I also get the slight suspicion that Sahashi must really like Zelda (A Hint of Zelda?.mp3 (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/YKFSFXAC/A_Hint_of_Zelda.mp3_links)).
Maybe I'm just imagining things after listening to too much Skyward Sword but I swear I keep hearing them throughout his work.

Un an unrelated note, please check out Thread 105103
Wonderful stuff from a composer I had no knowlege of until yesterday.


@Orie: Thanks. I take some dose of symphony anytime, anyday :D

Oof! Forget about Zelda - it's Tchaikovsky who's turning in his grave! David Oistrakh plays Tchaikovsky Concerto (1st Mov.) Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNCeYKfAOZI&t=6m55s)

What score is that from?

[Edit: Ah, that's right - Koi ni Ochitara!]

I feel a Sahashi live-action posting frenzy coming on... ;) ;) ;)

Oof! Forget about Zelda - it's Tchaikovsky who's turning in his grave! David Oistrakh plays Tchaikovsky Concerto (1st Mov.) Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNCeYKfAOZI&t=6m55s)

What score is that from?

Someone said it was from The Adam(m?)s Family

Lol, artheirr, I know where that bit from 1:00-2:20 is from. I'll give you a hint, it's not classical music, it's from a film score by a very well-known composer. Another hint, the film is somewhat animated. :D

Someone said it was from The Adam(m?)s Family

Whoever said that needs a right smack in the mouth. ;)

Lol, artheirr, I know where that bit from 1:00-2:20 is from. I'll give you a hint, it's not classical music, it's from a film score by a very well-known composer. Another hint, the film is somewhat animated. :D

What is it? the strings sounded a bit like John Powells Chicken Run.

It's not Chicken Run. Think more piratey.


(A Hint of Zelda?.mp3 (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/YKFSFXAC/A_Hint_of_Zelda.mp3_links)).


wtf? Why do composers keep trying to mimic Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto? First Conti uses this, then Kanno in Ishin no Arashi, now Sahashi? It's so obvious it's redundant.

Some of those Agito choral pieces sound kind of like Bach's St. John Passion, perhaps St. Matthew, I'm not too familiar with Baroque music to catch each and every reference there. Might also be Mozart's Requiem, but only slightly.

III. Lord of Darkness makes a reference to the opening of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 at 2:21.

Thanks for the Odin stuff, although it is one of those older symphonic suites that sounds incredibly dated like most orchestral anime music from the 80s. I don't know what it is on the sound but I can't stomach it for a second.

Really? I love the sound of the strings and 80s percussion. It somehow feels warm, lovely and nostalgic. Katsuhisa Hattori, Kouhei Tanaka, early Joe Hisaishi and early Toshihiko Sahashi are great examples for this. I can stomach the sound quality and forgive the mastering if the music is good enough. Even to this day I give Project A-Ko a listen now and then and it's still great.

Really? I love the sound of the strings and 80s percussion. It somehow feels warm, lovely and nostalgic. Katsuhisa Hattori, Kouhei Tanaka, early Joe Hisaishi and early Toshihiko Sahashi are great examples for this. I can stomach the sound quality and forgive the mastering if the music is good enough. Even to this day I give Project A-Ko a listen now and then and it's still great.

Well I listen to all sorts of music that is MUCH MUCH older than these early anime scores (many golden age scores and quality 60s and 70s goldsmith) but they don't sound as dated as these. The same thing keeps me from enjoying many of the Sahashi scores, I just can't stand the sound of them even if there are some good melodies hidden underneath.

I'm curious though if someone can weigh in and suggest what exactly it is about these scores that gives them this certain sound.

Guess The Score: Flight - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAyuULWW5k4)

Sound familliar? ;)

Guess The Score: Flight - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAyuULWW5k4)

Sound familliar? ;)

HAHA! Yoko Kanno is now working in the States!

HAHA! Yoko Kanno is now working in the States!

It's not Kanno! ;)

No, it's every late-romantic composer who ever lived (particularly Goldsmith, Arnold and Williams) played by a really crappy orchestra... I just bought the whole score. It's absolutely HILARIOUS. So far, it blatantly rips off (as in nicking the whole theme, orchestration, key, and harmonies, with a few notes switched around):

Jerry Goldsmith - Rudy
John Williams - Indiana Jones, et al
David Arnold - Independence Day
John Williams - Superman
Michael Giacchino - Super 8
Gustav Holst - The Planets (Mars)

All in a 30 minute score. I haven't heard this much brazen thievery since Kanno. Not even JAMES HORNER goes as far as this score has.

It's just shocking. I'm going to post the thing tomorrow just for the sheer bloody hell of it.

(Just to clarify; we're talking about Dane Walker's 2010 score The Runner From Ravenshead.)

From what I can hear in the clips on cdbaby that Ravenshead score isn't so much offensive that it imitates other scores (Track 6 Escaping Ravenshead is suspiciously similar to Horner's Mask of Zorro), but it's offensive in that it's just plain boring. Too many film scores are being written with the intention to sound like film scores, which is boring, and leads to plagiarism and imitations. If you listen to the masters, which yes, includes Horner, you will notice they don't score films like films, but almost like classical pieces. Even the underscore at its most plain and predictable can be interesting and not at all boring.

Wow, after hearing Superman then Pirates of the Carribean then Mars so blatently imitated I can only conclude that this Dane Walker has no idea what he's doing. How does this pass as a film score? This is almost as depressing as Trent Reznor being the goto guy in Hollywood for film scores. Just goes to show that someone with even a passing knowledge of film music can score a film using a mix tape.

What is track 12 from? It's very familiar. Sounds like Star Wars.

Since we're all in such a jolly "ripoff pointing" mood, did you guys hear Erwann Kermorvant's "Un ticket pour l'espace"? Oh, I know a young french composer who's fan of Horner ST scores... Oh, yes he is... Yes he is! Unless of course the directors asked him to be as close as possible to these scores. Closer. CLOSER I SAID!


I feel a Sahashi live-action posting frenzy coming on... ;) ;) ;)

Now, THAT's some glorious news! Greatly looking forward to this!


Lol, artheirr, I know where that bit from 1:00-2:20 is from. I'll give you a hint, it's not classical music, it's from a film score by a very well-known composer. Another hint, the film is somewhat animated. :D

Given your hints, I can only assume it ought to be Korngold. If it's the case, from which score?

Edit: I forgot the "animated" hint... So it's probably not Korngold. Then who?


wtf? Why do composers keep trying to mimic Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto? First Conti uses this, then Kanno in Ishin no Arashi, now Sahashi? It's so obvious it's redundant.

If you guys hadn't revealed the original source, I would have cited The Right Stuff indeed!


The same thing keeps me from enjoying many of the Sahashi scores, I just can't stand the sound of them even if there are some good melodies hidden underneath.

I'm curious though if someone can weigh in and suggest what exactly it is about these scores that gives them this certain sound.

Could you be more specific? I'd be interested to listen to one of those pieces you can't stand (especially a Sahashi one), so we can identify the repulsive factor here.

Could you be more specific? I'd be interested to listen to one of those pieces you can't stand (especially a Sahashi one), so we can identify the repulsive factor here.

I wish I could but I've deleted most of them. The best non-Sahashi scores I can think of that illustrate this include Saint Seiya and the Captain Harlock music.

A lot of low-budget scores from the 70s and 80s used electric bass and drums as a part of the orchestra, and I'm not sure why exactly, but that trend seems to be partly responsible for a lot of forgettable orchestral music that otherwise could have been awesome. It might have been due to not being able to create a strong bass sound with so few lower strings in the studio orchestra, or a way to contemporize and popularize orchestral music due to rampant anti-intellectualism and pro-consumerism thought processes in the entertainment industry (I still have nightmares about what Poledouris's Conan the Barbarian could have been had the director not talked the producers out of it...)

OK, let's give this one a try...


DANE WALKER
THE RUNNER FROM RAVENSHEAD
The Prague FILMharmonic Orchestra



http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0G8PBMSN/DW-TRFR_0.rar_links

Where, oh, where to start with this thing? This score does have one thing going for it. It's wonderful to see that this style of music is considered acceptable to score a 2010 motion picture - even if it is a Christian propaganda film. Regardless of everything else, this is a score with a late romantic, whimsical, Williams-esque, thematic approach - and that should be celebrated. It's also a fine example of what you can achieve with a low budget - there is some synth sweetening going on here (and some pretty awful snares and cymbals overdubbing by EWQL Gold Edition) and the orchestra is woefully under-rehearsed... but by and large, this is a large-scale symphonic score on a shoestring. With a bit of effort, it can be done - the power of real, living musicians once again is proven.

Sadly, it's also possibly the greatest example of consistent, paint-by-numbers plagiarism ever heard - the stuff this score tries to get away is frankly unbelievable; Yoko Kanno's numerous brazen thefts and Horner's incessant self quoting and insatiable obsession with Prokofiev pale in comparison. Since this is a bible-thumper picture, it raises my ire all the more; "do not lie" and "do not steal" says the bible - and this score is guilty of both in the most extreme terms.

There's not much more that can be said; I can't talk about the originality of the music because there simply is none. This is a pot-pourii of classical and film music through the ages - held together by cliched gestures. The main theme is Goldsmith's Rudy. Henry's Heroic Rescue is Williams' Indiana Jones theme complete with segue into Marion's theme, with a little bit of Holst to finish off. Henry's Theme is again Indiana Jones. Raising The Rocket Car is Zimmer's Pirates Of The Caribbean (though better orchestrated than the original). Clyde And The Rocket Car is Arnold's Independence Day, Horner's Star Trek II, Giacchino's Super 8, and Holst's Mars. Car Problems is Giacchino's Super 8 again. Finally, The City Of Refuge finale is Goldsmith's Rudy. There are doubtless countless others that I've missed and would welcome any further thoughts.

As Streich observed, there's well-done, interesting, intelligently done plagiarism, and there's boring, straight, emotionless plagiarism. Guess which category this one's in? ;)

With that in mind, enjoy!

Fascinating stuff, I have to test this one ASAP, especially for the ripoffs. Thanks for posting! (comments after listening)

I've also got a bunch of other stuff to talk about, but that'll be tomorrow. Right now I have to urgently sleep! See ya, mates!

PS: could someone tell me at last from which piece comes the ripoff in the Sahashi piece I posted?! I really don't see any animated pirate movie it could come from...

Perhaps it was not an animated film, but a video game? because he did not say it was animated, he said animated-ish

"Somewhat animated" could mean that it's animated as in exhuberant, spirited, etc. There could also be an emphassis on somewhat as Faleel suggested, meaning we're looking at something which is animation and live action. Something tells me it's not a video game, as we're talking about a "very well known composer" and broadly speaking, there aren't any of those working on video games except Debney (Lair - which was years after Symphony Seed) and possibly Gregson-Williams - and what has he written that sounds like Gundam Seed Destiny? That, and streich refers twice to the term "film" explicitly - "it's a film score" and "the film is somewhat animated" - so let's assume that it's a film...

And I'll be buggered if I know which one he could be talking about... C'mon streich mate, don't keep us in suspense....!!!!

Edit: Why am I suddenly thinking about James Newton Howard?

Tango, I believe you meant to say bible-thumping (pro-christian), not bible-bashing (anti-christian.)

After looking at his site I think it's funny that this Dane Walker is religious and plagiarizes film scores because it causes me to recall Greg Hansen (Greg Hansen Music Productions | Latest News (http://www.greg-hansen.com)) who seems to be heavily into jesus, so much so that if you listen to his track "resurrection" from his website you will notice he was divinely inspired to take Silvestri's score to the Abyss and make it his own.

How many movies are there that are partially animated, partially live-action, and have pirates in them?

Quite right; me velly stupid.


How many movies are there that are partially animated, partially live-action, and have pirates in them?

Buggered if I know any!!! ;)

[Edit: Hmm... I think I may have it. Is this, by any chance, by somebody we would be expecting to be the plagiariser, and not the plagiarisee?]

[Edit again: Oh, looky here! There it is. Markedly different mood, though... Why the hell doesn't the guy write like that any more?]

Third edit: Since it looks like Streich has gone to bed... I'll reveal that the Symphony Seed Destiny theft is from James Horner's Pagemaster. Track 11, "Pirates" - here for your immediate consumption. The fun begins at the two minute mark. :)

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0ISOZ239/11_-___Pirates___.mp3_links

I think those in this thread will appreciate the new Moviescore media announcement of the release of as they call it "Michael Kamen's final opus"
BACK TO GAYA (PRE-ORDER) -- SCREEN ARCHIVES ENTERTAINMENT (http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/16923/)
The completion of the Back to Gaya score was an extraordinary achievement as composer Michael Kamen tragically, in the midst of composing the music for the film, passed away. Committed to fulfil the vision of Kamen, complementing the music he had written specifically for Back to Gaya with a selection of his unused compositions from previous film projects, a team of composer and orchestrators headed by Kamens long-time associates Steve McLaughlin and Christopher Brooks finalized the score to fit the film perfectly. MovieScore Media's album features 62 minutes of grand orchestral, adventurous and highly entertaining Michael Kamen music performed by the London Metropolitan Orchestra. In honour of the late maestro, MovieScore Media will share a portion of revenues generated by the album with Mr. Holland’s Opus Foundation, which was founded by Michael Kamen in 1996 as his commitment to the future of music education. The first edition of the CD is limited to 1,000 copies.

Oh, wonderful! Absolutely WONDERFUL! :D :D :D

I wonder why that description fails to mention Ilan Eshkeri, who did the bulk of the heavy lifting following Kamen's sad passing away.

If anybody is wondering what they'll be getting with this score, Ilan's former agent is still offering the 15 minute suite... a very, very good sampler of the wonderful music that we have to look forward to with this new MSM release. :)

http://dna-music.com/music/ilan_eshkeri/Suite_Back_To_Gaya.mp3

I don't think they represent him any more, so I suspect they don't know this is up.

The longer description posted on FSM does mention Eshkeri
FSM Board: MSM to release BACK TO GAYA (Michael Kamen) (http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=85769&forumID=1&archive=0)
Thanks for that link :)

Wow! I did not see that one! And yet I must have listened to that Pagemaster track at least 30 times in the past (it's one of my favorite Horner scores).

However, this is nonetheless a perfect example of "well-done, interesting, intelligently done plagiarism", since Sahashi takes that motif, and masterfully transforms it into a 2:20 cue of pure beauty. That's what I call development. And the most interesting thing is that what I consider as the best part of that track (1:50) is Sahashi's own superlative creation, extrapolated from the original stolen motif. So let's say he's excused for this little theft. How can you blame someone who steals some (Symphony, haha!) seeds to cultivate trees which delicious fruits he gives you back?


That reminds me of another related subject I saw recently. Does someone know if Sahashi did some arrangements for the Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra?

Listen to this:

Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra - Deep Purple Medley - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z455Bs8slxo)

Then listen to this:

Gundam Seed Destiny - Kira, Sono kokoro no mama ni - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UQGFShtSTw)

Kinda close, isn't it?

Arthierr: Yep, that was Sahashi - for a long running series of Japanese albums called "New Sound In Brass". It's a pretty early entry in his career as well - the Deep Purple one was in 1996. There's a Beatles one, a Disney one, and a Mozart one also arranged by Sahashi floating around too but I wouldn't have the first idea where to find them. :)

Edit: LOL! Here's the Mozart one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MYatY_5kGs
...and the Liverpool Sound Collection http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3pOYYVbyqM
...and the Disney one Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy5PPwJwE3k and Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlSFGflXREE&feature=related

Edit again: Youtube commenter says Part 1 of the Disney medley is arranged by Toshio Mashima. I believe Sahashi did only part 2.

Though Pagemaster is the first thing I thought of when I heard it, the more I think about it the more I think that fanfare-ish moment might be Horner spoofing Wagner or Korngold, it's difficult to say.

Thanks for the info about Back to Gaya Sirusjr, preordered :). I hope Kamen will long be remembered. He was a great composer and "Band of Brothers Suite" (One+Two) is still one of my favorite orchestral cues.

Now something else: Here is Sato's score for the anime

Blood-C

(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/folderydk.jpg/)

Orchestral / Action / Horror

Music composed by Naoki Sato

Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1F7A41W0/Blood-C.7z_links)
MP3 / 320kbps / 24 Tracks / 53 min

Edit: Yes this is not offical but the two volumes together, proberly structured and tagged.


A fine score and a promising preview for the upcoming movie. Sato has also scored the movie Friends: Naki on Monster Island in 2011. I did not find it online yet which is a shame because the previews sounded really good. Well, there is always the upcoming Umizaru Movie, that one will surely appear a few days after release (I hope).

Naki is wonderful, from the samples alone. Sato back in overly tuneful, jolly, massively symphonic style. A relief after a handful of recent duds and Sato's new reputation as the Japanese go-to guy for when you want a Zimmer-alike score. It's on my next CD Japan order, but because of the horrific customs fees I am suddenly getting stung with EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME I import smething I now don't buy until I have ten or fifteen CDs I want... so it may be some time.

Thanks for getting Blood C together in one place; I'm guessing this is the two bonus soundtracks tacked together? Pity this was a bit overly electronic (and a bit underly orchestral) for my taste but it's still good stuff. Hopefully for the movie he'll get some more money and we'll have a big, dark, gothic-styled score. Looking forward to that.

News roundup in brief...

Upcoming scores:

Kousuke Yamashita BUMPER MONTH!
Two final CDs from 2011's Super Sentai Gokaiger released on 21st December. Still waiting for them to turn up online.
Also yet another Gokaiger movie (with Yamashita score!!!) - soundtrack release this month.
Another Digimon Xros Wars Music Code (bringing the total up to three - very little orchestral score but what there is, is excellent.)
Chihayafuru - a lovely romance score for 2011's anime series, coming up January.

Akira Senju
Theatrical anime score "Magic Tree House" also coming up in January.

Yoshihisa Hirano
Not his best work, but still some good stuff in HunterXHunter - again coming out in January.
He also did orchestrations for a Final Fantasy concert in Japan in November - but no news on whether his arrangements will be released. Since it's Final Fantasy, though... something tells me it will turn up in due course.

Kei Yoshikawa
Effing fantastic score for The Gundam Series You Love To Hate, Gundam AGE. Since the series isn't doing too well, apparently, nobody seems particularly interested in the score - this one (the first of four) was released on December 21st and again, has not materialised online. It's on my list. My list will be about another month before it gets ordered though.

Shiho Terada
Inazuma Eleven Go movie score has already been released - TV score to follow in January. Some very good orchestral stuff in there; firmly in the sound world of Sahashi and co.

Hiromi Mizutani
Toriko OST 2 is coming out this month. Some excellent orchestral stuff in the first soundtrack; even if the orchestra is a bit pokey and synth-sweetened the music is so damn cheerful that you can forgive it. They seem to be positioning Toriko as the new One Piece, so expect things to get more expensive.

Ryosuke Nakanishi
One to look out for - Majikoi Oh! Samurai Girls has some potential. Think there's an orchestra in there somewhere, albeit a small one. Score release imminent.

Rumours going round that Sahashi is actually SCORING the upcoming Sacred Seven movie to picture and that they won't therefore be re-using the TV series score. Sahashi expands on his TV themes with a big orchestra for a theatrical movie? YES PLEASE.

And most important of all (for me at least) Kohei Tanaka's Gravity Daze!
I watched the demo and a few more vids and this is shaping up to be his best score in years. Wonderful, simply wondeful. It's like Alundra, but fully orchestrated. I was also impressed by the game, something about it (and Tanaka's involvment) just seems special, similar to Ni No Kuni. I can't wait to hear (and play) this baby next month.

Second that! Joyous Tanaka is always wonderful. Not that dark brooding Tanaka isnt - but I've really been wanting him to get some project where he can just burst out into melody - and then suddenly along comes Gravity Daze (now known as Gravity Rush).

Gundam Age Original Soundtrack Vol 1 (V0)


Download Gundam_Age_Original_Soundtrack_Vol_1.rar for free on Filesonic.com (http://www.filesonic.com/file/aThVWOJ)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I were a woman, I'd have your babies...

Thank you! :D

Holy Shit!!!

...

A million thanks for this!

Nothing has to be approved - you should be able to post without any trouble. Did you paste a link into your post? :)

Welcome!

Thanks for Blood-C Klnerfan, great music. I'll check your version out to see if the tags are better than what I have already. EDIT: Ahh much better :) Also big thanks to Smack 81 for a great first contribution to the thread!!

BTW, don't watch Gundam Age, I tried watching it with my bf who is a huge gundam fan and he thought it was pretty bad compared to other better gundam series. I wasn't a huge fan of it either.

Thanks for this Gundam Score smack81 ;)

Wonderful! Thank you very much, smack81 and klnerfan!


I tried offering a New Sounds in Brass, arranged by Masamichi Amano, but it doesn't show up.
I know it has to be approved first. Did I do something wrong, arthierr?
Do I need a certain amount of posts first before I can post in this thread?
Or did my post just get lost..?

Mmh... the forum acts weirdly nowadays, so funny things like that might happen. The keyword here is perseverance. Failed once? Then stand up and try again, until you succeed! Looking forward to listening to it. :) And welcome to you, of course!

BTW, speaking of this forum, what's the deal with so much issues?


Tango: excellent finds! Do you (or someone else) know how to *losslessly* rip the audio only of a Youtube video? I'd like to grab these without having to transcode them.

And I don't know how you manage to find such fresh news, bravo. My guess is you probably visit some japanese sites to get them, right? There are some great (or at least promising) stuff to come, indeed! The Yamashita feast is especially very welcome. If there's one guy who deserves to be highly busy as a composer it's probably him. At last one good example of true talent and competence recognized and used to its merit.

Journey Trailer - A Musical Journey - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNHtReya_p0)

Another score for the spring season, this one could really turn out great and yet another game I will be purchasing based on this trailer alone. I can't remember the last time a year started of this promising.

Journey Trailer - A Musical Journey - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNHtReya_p0)

Another score for the spring season, this one could really turn out great and yet another game I will be purchasing based on this trailer alone. I can't remember the last time a year started of this promising.

Well of course it is Austin Wintory :) I've been waiting for this since I got to hear a suite played at the Golden State Pops game music concert conducted by Wintory himself.

FYI, for any forum goers in the UK Classical FM is running a 2 hour program on film music in half an hour (5PM GMT). If somebody could record it, that would be great!

Mobile Suit Gundam F91 - Symphonic Poem
by Satoshi Kadokura




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Scoped the raw of Aquarion Evol's pilot. Some interesting new pieces at the beginning, including some very nice choral work, and most of it has Kanno's indelible stamp on it. Only this one violin duet around the ten-minute mark sounds unlike her, up until some harmonic improvisations and tricks later in that throw it into the realm of "maybe...?" Dissapointing that it's almost all last-season repeats once the action starts, though, and there are no tremendous new cantata-esque action tracks yet. But hey, thirteen more episodes to go.

Oh, and my verdict on Gundam Age: eh, it's alright.

Scoped the raw of Aquarion Evol's pilot. Some interesting new pieces at the beginning, including some very nice choral work, and most of it has Kanno's indelible stamp on it. Only this one violin duet around the ten-minute mark sounds unlike her, up until some harmonic improvisations and tricks later in that throw it into the realm of "maybe...?" Dissapointing that it's almost all last-season repeats once the action starts, though, and there are no tremendous new cantata-esque action tracks yet. But hey, thirteen more episodes to go.
Thanks for reminding me. I decided to download an take a listen to the music, so here's my notes:

The choral music setting the scene for the church might be Kanno. The melody really reminds me of The Lion's Banner track from the Shenmue OST for some reason. The instruments here kind of have a fake tone to them which is not like Kanno's style.

The acoustic guitars and violin are more Kanno's style, but who knows, it might not be hers?

Eventually the waltz from the Aquarion OST played by the Warsaw Philharmonic is heard, nothing new there, but a sign that they will be reusing music.

A tense string quartet piece plays very briefly for a short scene. Not used to that kind of scoring in anime. It's not very memorable.

This show seems very Macross Frontier-inspired in terms of setting the story. Peaceful town, exposition, then suddenly invasion, then mechs show up looking awesome. Basically your standard mecha anime.

The invasion music before the commercial is very much Kanno's style: angular melody in the cellos, ostinato, slow but meaningful build up. The segue into the commercial break does not sound like Kanno, however. Again, these are some very short background pieces compared to Macross Frontier.

After the commercial we get some techno/electronica with some strings.

Then we get another Warsaw track from the Aquarion OST: the one that starts like Wagner's Ride of Valkyries and then starts to imitate the melody from Korngold's Violin Concerto, and then starts to imitate Prokofiev's Scythian Suite, and then Goldenthal's Titus sans chorus. There are a few other possible classical references in there, but I haven't figured them out yet.

When the protagonist takes what I assume to be weights of his boots and floats away we get another track from the Aquarion OST: the one with the baritone solo singing the Aquarion theme (which might be a reference to Mahler's Symphony No. 3 Mvt. III.)

Then we get a j-pop song yay.

After the second commercial break we get a tense string orchestra piece that moves around chromatically. Not sure if it was in the original show, it was definitely not from the OSTs. Funnily enough it reminds me of Berlioz's Harold in Italy (the off-key hits on the piano that sounds like bells.)

Eventually the awesome action piece that is my favourite unreleased bit from the original Aquarion show is played. This piece reminds me of the fast parts from Goldenthal's soundtrack to Cobb. This is the Warsaw Philharmonic at its best, and I'm glad I can hear it much more clearly this time around. Once the organ kicks in it is a choral-less rendition of two of the Aquarion tracks from the OST. Very nice, but nothing new.

After the action piece there is a Gregorian chant-like bit, also heard in the original show, but unreleased.

Then more j-pop yay.

I think the invasion music ostinato comes back again briefly.

The solo woman wordless singing theme for the bad guys, again from the original show but unreleased, is back as well. It's a Warsaw track, though, so it'd be awesome if it were released.

There was a lot of unreleased music on the 2 Aquarion OSTs, this series might be a sign of seeing that music released finally.

Summary: this show is stupid.

Tangotreats, 04-12-11: The score will be a cut and paste job; the new person makes some relatively low-budget variations on the famous composers' melodies from the original to fill in gaps, and the original music will be re-used wherever possible.

I bet you any money you like that Otsuka is writing filler music on the cheap using Kanno's themes, and Kanno's music from Aquarion will be recycled for setpieces. Thus meaning that Kanno's name can stay on the show without anybody having to actually pay for her.Everybody is thinking this means we will get a ravishing Warsaw Philharmonic and hours of music Kanno score for 2012... It's just not going to happen.

Wise man is he. Big, big shame. But not anywhere near a surprise.

any luck for this one?



The latest release of Iwashiro Taro (岩代 太郎)

Thanks in advance~:D

Eventually the waltz from the Aquarion OST played by the Warsaw Philharmonic is heard, nothing new there, but a sign that they will be reusing music.

Vatican Dance


A tense string quartet piece plays very briefly for a short scene. Not used to that kind of scoring in anime. It's not very memorable.

Given how unusual it is, I wanna guess Kanno. I'm also guessing it's either a quick cut of a much longer piece, or a very short interstitial cue that probably won't get released.


This show seems very Macross Frontier-inspired in terms of setting the story. Peaceful town, exposition, then suddenly invasion, then mechs show up looking awesome. Basically your standard mecha anime.


Same director and nearly the entire production staff will do that. Shame it's not as inane and crazy as the first show's pilot.


After the commercial we get some techno/electronica with some strings.

Psychedelic Academy. Another repeat, and one that was half-Hogari.


Then we get another Warsaw track from the Aquarion OST: the one that starts like Wagner's Ride of Valkyries and then starts to imitate the melody from Korngold's Violin Concerto, and then starts to imitate Prokofiev's Scythian Suite, and then Goldenthal's Titus sans chorus. There are a few other possible classical references in there, but I haven't figured them out yet.

When the protagonist takes what I assume to be weights of his boots and floats away we get another track from the Aquarion OST: the one with the baritone solo singing the Aquarion theme (which might be a reference to Mahler's Symphony No. 3 Mvt. III.)

High Spirit and St. Aquarion. Incidentally, two of my faves.

And the rest I can't remember if they were old and just unreleased or not. Certainly would love to see this be in excuse to bring them to disc finally, though not if it means sacrificing space for more new material.


Summary: this show is stupid.

Yupparooni.

I never realized aside from the obvious reference to Stravinsky's Firebird how much Williams's Hook borrowed from Korngold's Sea Hawk and Robin Hood.

For example, if anyone has The Sea Hawk restored score by Stromberg/Morgan, check out disc 2 track 2 "The Slaves Liberate Themselves" and then check out the track Hooknapped from the Hook soundtrack. That's the most obvious reference, but there are lots of little tidbits of orchestrations that are similar the more familiar you become with each score. Here I was thinking Pagemaster might have referenced Korngold, but no, it was Hook that did...

Speaking of Hook, will there ever be a complete 2CD release? That score is screaming for such a treatment.

There are rumors.

Speaking of Hook, will there ever be a complete 2CD release? That score is screaming for such a treatment.

Rumors suggest it is coming from La La Land eventually, some thought we would have it as one of the ComicCon releases in 2011 but it hasn't shown up yet. Going from their release of 1941, I suspect they will release the best sounding material available and give us a ton of alternates when we get it.

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After seeing that Aquarion Evol episode and hearing the unreleased Kanno music I decided to give Brainpowerd a try. It's a terrible show as well, especially dubbed, so I'm just skimming through it. I found a site that allowed me to watch them online, so I've just been skipping through the episodes trying to find good stuff not on the OST. The first episode around 5:09 in is an awesome action piece similar to the Aquarion one (in terms of tense action and use of strings) and I wish it was released :( . You can hear it here Brain Powered Episode 1 English Dub (http://www.dubzonline.com/brain-powered-episode-1-english-dub/) Similar to other Kanno action tracks a very angular motif is repeated and built up and decorated with chromaticism. We will probably never hear this music outside of the anime.

New Bond Movie Skyfall will be scored by Thomas Newman.While i miss David Arnold, this will be very interesting.I am not dissapointed like countless others.I don�t think he has ever scored massiv action scenes,

Newman doesn't seem to be your obvious choice for a big actioney movie score; he's usually more your subtle, restrained, sensitive, "intelligent" score guy. But in fact the guy has enough talent and competence to basically score almost anything, so there's not too much worry to have here. "What, you want something like Barry but more modern, with the ballsiness of Arnold, and a touch my own romantic sensibility? But of course you can have it! Right away!"

Someone who can compose this has nothing to fear from a challenge such as scoring a Bond score:

Thomas Newman - The Player - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBSap4gDph8)

Hello everyone,

It's been a while since I have posted on this forum but I wanted to point you out to this young and very talented composer/orchestrator.
I have never seen anybody mention his name in this forum before but to my opinion he deserves much more attention.

Robin Hoffmann - Liebling, lass uns scheiden...

This is a jazzy orchestral score and it is beautifully orchestrated. It contains two songs and you should really check out the Airport Sequence.



MultiUpload (http://www.multiupload.com/TRD89WBWGG)

P.S. This score is free to download on his SoundCloud Page but I just wanted to point this out.

After seeing that Aquarion Evol episode and hearing the unreleased Kanno music I decided to give Brainpowerd a try. It's a terrible show as well, especially dubbed, so I'm just skimming through it. I found a site that allowed me to watch them online, so I've just been skipping through the episodes trying to find good stuff not on the OST. The first episode around 5:09 in is an awesome action piece similar to the Aquarion one (in terms of tense action and use of strings) and I wish it was released :( . You can hear it here Brain Powered Episode 1 English Dub (http://www.watchcartoononline.com/brain-powered-episode-1-english-dubbed) Similar to other Kanno action tracks a very angular motif is repeated and built up and decorated with chromaticism. We will probably never hear this music outside of the anime.

Thanks for that find, streichorchester.

I downloaded the first episode from here (http://bakabt.me/11079-brain-powerd-zx.html) and Mono/Inverted the audio file via Audacity. Still contains a little bit of SFX/artifacts and some places the volume is uneven :'D

http://www.mediafire.com/?fbwnpzd0f4pt071

Another damn yank scoring a bond picture. Great. Thomas Newman? Oy, vey...

Hi all, and a Happy New Year! :)

I'm currently putting together a nice listenable version of the soundtrack for Kinect Disneyland Adventures - a brilliant score by Lennie Moore et al, but rather chaotic and fragmentary on the disc, and sloppily edited in-game. We're talking 20-50 second sections with abrupt cut-offs! Here's a quick tango-style tease of what's to come:



Flight to Neverland.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?01axxzxttczdbaa)

Happy new year, and welcome back! :D

I pray that the "tango-style" doesn't continue in the sense of getting a wonderful, wonderful teaser which never materialises into a finished project... ;)

This is a genuniely splendid score which is, as you say, completely hopeless in its raw form... With love and careful attention (both of which you are clearly providing in spades, if the sample is anything to go by) it could easily be a great album.

Thank you most sincerely in advance for this. :D

Looking forward to your Kinect Disneyland. Thanks in advance for your efforts.

Can't listen to the sample at work, but the mere mention of Lennie Moore arouses anticipation. Looking forward to it!

Also, BSX recently released a CD called "Music from The Twilight Saga for Chamber Orchestra" which is a lovely collection of pieces from the first three twilight films including some great arrangements of material from New Moon (the one scored by Alexandre Desplat).

Please can you upload that pieces from the twilight saga? I've heard a little bit of the arrangements for Desplat's New Moon and fits awesome with these vocals improvements!!!

Thanks in advance, Sirusjr.

Slayers: Music from the Motion Pictures

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Orchestral / Fantasy / Action / Jazzy

Music Composed by Takayuki Hattori


Download (http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/HIPPU9SQ/Slayers_-_Music_from_the_Motion_Pictures.7z_links)
MP3 / 128kbps / 64 Tracks / 110 min

Hey, I didn't know Hattori has scored a Slayers movie! This is quite interesting... Thanks!



Hello everyone,

It's been a while since I have posted on this forum but I wanted to point you out to this young and very talented composer/orchestrator.
I have never seen anybody mention his name in this forum before but to my opinion he deserves much more attention.

Robin Hoffmann - Liebling, lass uns scheiden...

This is LOVELY!

A pity it's been posted only now, because it would have been the perfect score to post during the Holydays season! Anyway, I just needed this kind of music: something cheerful, exuberant, full of energy and orchestral but with some frequent tasty, lively jazzy accents. This kind of music actually can help you feel better and more positive. Very nice post, LordColin!

BTW, no need to put it under spoiler, you can just post it the regular way, so more people can know about it and download it.



I'm currently putting together a nice listenable version of the soundtrack for Kinect Disneyland Adventures - a brilliant score by Lennie Moore et al, but rather chaotic and fragmentary on the disc, and sloppily edited in-game. We're talking 20-50 second sections with abrupt cut-offs! Here's a quick tango-style tease of what's to come

Welcome back, Lens, and what a great sounding track indeed! If there's more music like this, then please, PLEASE do finish your edit and post it soon!

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Hi all, and a Happy New Year! :)

I'm currently putting together a nice listenable version of the soundtrack for Kinect Disneyland Adventures - a brilliant score by Lennie Moore et al, but rather chaotic and fragmentary on the disc, and sloppily edited in-game. We're talking 20-50 second sections with abrupt cut-offs! Here's a quick tango-style tease of what's to come:


Fantastic! A great re-imagining of the peter pan material, and it sounds like you did a great job getting it into a format that works. Thanks, and I look forward to hearing more of this surprisingly good disney game score!


Slayers: Music from the Motion Pictures


Ah, I've eaten up every Takayuki Hattori score that I've heard, so thanks very much for this one.

New Sounds in Brass Arranged by Masamichi Amano
ニューサウンスイン・ブラス 天野 正道アレンジ
Nyuu Saunsu In Burasu Amano Masamichi Arrenji

Ok, so I just noticed this *now*, because it just showed up recently for some bizarre reason, and... THIS IS F**KING AWESOME, DUDE! I usually love this kind of stuff, and this one is obviously very rare; so rare that I never heard of it! Thank you very much for your great efforts, much appreciated!

And if there are other people willing to post some similar albums, you're VERY welcome! Thanks in advance!



Also, I recently found in my HDD a mysterious file named SF2_DS.zip. Inside was in fact the OST of SpellForce 2 - Dragon Storm by Dynamedion. No idea when I downloaded this, but I gave it a try, and it sounded very pleasant to my ears, albeit short. It's your typical western fantasy orchestral game score, nothing too original or revolutionary, but quite a good listen for people who like this kind of stuff. Dynamedion scores, even if some might judge them "bland" and generic, really are generally very well done, they sound clean, professional, effective, perfectly functional in a good sense, and ultimately are quite enjoyable as they are. So I'd like to recommend you these:


SpellForce 2 - Shadow Wars



Thread 59608




SpellForce 2 - Dragon Storm (Expansion Pack)



Thread 59594



Big thanks to kvak!

Let's go for another recommindation, and not a tiny one! I just found this one, and I sure wanted it to pop out one of these days. This is quite a superlative concert, now in good sound quality. Enjoy!



Symphonic Odysseys
Tribute to Nobuo Uematsu



Live recording of a gamesmusic concert took place in the Philharmonic Concert Hall, Cologne, Germany in July 2011. A whole concert dedicated to gamesmusic composer, Nobuo Uematsu (植松 伸夫) in which not just featured a 3 part piano concerto for Uematsu's phenomenal work "Final Fantasy" but also included nearly all his game music work such as King's Knight; Blue Dragon; Lost Odyssey...etc. The concert was performed by The WDR Symphony Orchestra Cologne, conducted by Arnie Roth. A very passionate, solid and nicely arranged symphonic performance.



2cd in mp3@320k (227mb)
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Findings on net, credits go to the original uploader~:D


Here's an interesting review, to enhance your listening experience:
Game Music :: Symphonic Odysseys - Tribute to Nobuo Uematsu :: Review by Joe Hammond (http://www.squareenixmusic.com/reviews/joehammond/symphonicodysseys.shtml)


And last but not least, here's the full video of the concert:

Symphonic Odysseys - A Tribute to Nobuo Uematsu - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6vD1Lc_34w)

@Aoiichi_nii-san:


Saturday Night at the Movies with Howard Goodall, 07.01.2012 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DJYIKHLH)



I missed the first 35 minutes. Didn't know what the quality of the stream was, so I just went with 128kbps.
Here's the Playlist:
Start from: 17:35 - A Fistful of Dollars - Theme, by Ennio Morricone (http://www.classicfm.co.uk/on-air/playlist/?date=2012-01-07&hour=16)


Comment:

Apollo 13 was great. I never paid attention to the score when I watched that movie. James Horner <3 The track was "All Systems Go - The Launch".



Thanks! I think the program is on again the same time this week, if anyone else is interested.

Seeing Robin Hoffman posted above, this reminds me to share a little sack of gems here:

Daily Film Scoring Bits - Hints, Tips and Tricks regarding Film Music | Robin Hoffmann (http://www.robin-hoffmann.com/dfsb/daily-film-scoring-bits/)

As the name suggests, just a bunch of daily, about one or two paragraph long entries into the art of film scoring- primarily for those who are doing it, but there is a lot for any enthusiast to learn here as well.

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I would like to bring Sato's Naki on Monster Island to everyone's attention.

Thread 108756

This is Sato in full symphonic fashion. No RC-Percussion, no electronics, no samples. It is basically a mix of the grand symphonic pieces of Heroic Age and the fast exciting action tracks of K-20. Reminiscent of James Horner's symphonic scores and God's Theme from The Prince of Egypt, this is easily his best work in recent years and one of my absolute favorites from him.

I do like David Arnold's work on Bond and this news is terrible indeed. HOWEVER, it isn't the end of the world (yet ;)) and I will still give the series newcomer a chance. It won't be the same but I will keep my ears on it.

excellent finds! Do you (or someone else) know how to *losslessly* rip the audio only of a Youtube video? I'd like to grab these without having to transcode them.

After nearly an hour of research and experimentation, I finally found a neat litlle program that very quickly and easily extract the audio streams of various video formats without recompressing them, IE losslessly, without complicated command line and stuff. I hereby present you...


Pazera Free Audio Extractor
Pazera Free Audio Extractor - Convert AVI to MP3, WMA, FLAC and other audio formats - Jacek Pazera (http://www.pazera-software.com/products/audio-extractor/)

From website:
Pazera Free Audio Extractor is an absolutely free application that extracts audio tracks from video files without loss of sound quality or convert them to MP3, AAC, AC3, WMA, FLAC, OGG or WAV format. The application supports all major video formats (AVI, FLV, MP4, MPG, MOV, RM, 3GP, WMV, VOB and other), moreover, allows the conversion of music files, so it can be used as a universal audio converter. The program has a number of predefined settings (profiles) specially designed for novice users. While more advanced users can customize audio encoding parameters for its own needs.

With it I finally succeeded in extracting the audio from the rare Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra videos on Youtube posted in the previous page, without having to transcode them. You just have to make sure to choose the option "try extract original audio stream" to that effect (otherwise the audio will be transcoded, resulting in a quality loss).




I would like to bring Sato's Naki on Monster Island to everyone's attention.

Thread 108756

Will sure check this one ASAP. But right now I can't listen to any music on my computer since the other day I tried to fix my speakers, and now they don't work at all! I tried to look like McGyver and I ended up looking like Mr. Bean... Anyway, let's take this as an opportunity to improve my audio equipment and finally get some really good speakers as soon as I can afford them. Optimism, optimism.




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Saturday Night at the Movies with Howard Goodall, 14.01.2012

Excellent stuff, thanks again! And what a great presentation, too! May I suggest you to use 192k next time? The difference in size with 128k is very minor, but the audio quality is significantly better.

I always just use this. YouTube to mp3 Converter (http://www.youtube-mp3.org/) Wouldn't know how equal or low-quality it is to that but it only transfers to MP3(though that's all I ever use) so there ya go.

Well fiddlesticks, no new tracks in Aquarion this week. :(

Will sure check this one ASAP. But right now I can't listen to any music on my computer since the other day I tried to fix my speakers, and now they don't work at all! I tried to look like McGyver and I ended up looking like Mr. Bean... Anyway, let's take this as an opportunity to improve my audio equipment and finally get some really good speakers as soon as I can afford them. Optimism, optimism.

Oh, arthierr, my sympathies! For any lover of music that relies on their computer for it (ie most of us), those are worst things anyone could ever say. I would probably go insane if I couldn't listen to my music - even for a day. Can't imagine how long you will go without the music on your HD.

Still, have you tried plugging your headphones into the speakers? Most of them have a slot for the headphones, or you could just plug them straight into the backend of the computer.

Two words - Go Shiina.

Here's the selection of his tracks from new Ace Combat on 3DS. Yes, it's full orchestra and choir. On 3DS. Yes...

Six tracks, 24 minutes of wonderful, fantastic, stunning and freakin' awesome music. Guy is my favourite VGM composer since he wrote Tales of... and with every other musical contribution he's just proving it to me all over again. Gotta love this guy if you are into big orchestral music. If you don't love him, then better start to! Cause his AWESOME!:D Just can't wait for second God Eater...



http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BPC73UMF

p.s.
Not very high bitrate (actually low as hell), it's from the gamerip, but the music is just... well you read the things above;).

I do like David Arnold's work on Bond and this news is terrible indeed. HOWEVER, it isn't the end of the world (yet ;)) and I will still give the series newcomer a chance. It won't be the same but I will keep my ears on it.


How can you say this .... Newman is more than capable of writing a class score for a class Bond film ... it will be super i can tell you!!

Jewish Songwriters and Composers (http://www.jinfo.org/Composers.html)

OH GOD HE'S JEWISH! WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?

Seriously - are you *ever* going to contribute anything to this thread or than linking to random articles?


Two words - Go Shiina.

Two more words - Overhyped, overrated.

This one, sadly, is no exception to the rule...

Naota: I indeed know this service and other similar ones, but I tend to avoid them since they do transcode the original audio stream into a regular mp3 format, which results in a noticeable quality loss than can become quite dramatic if the original stream was already in average quality - which often happens with online videos, since the uploaders sometimes recompress the audio when they create the video. This means that if you use this kind of service, the audio possibly gets encoded THREE times! Ouch!

That's why, as much as possible, it's better to use a program such as the one above to losslessly extract the audio. But there are times you simply can't, because the audio is in a funny format or requires a container to be read, so then, this kind of service can indeed become handy.



Doublehex: the way you talk about music shows a deep and sincere love for it that honors you. Kudos.

But no worries here! Like in many other problems, difficulties and adversities in life, this (very) little one is just another opportunity to move forward and get (something) better. When something is destroyed, it's the chance to construct something better. When something is lost, it's the occasion to acquire something more valuable and / or adapted to your real needs. This is not just some new agey BS; it's a very concrete and practical truth, on the contrary: the fact that my average and outdated speakers that barely satisfied me are lost is a formidable opportunity to get some really good ones that will fill my new needs in terms of audio equipment. Hurray!

You don't know how many times this kind of things happened to me, in various domains: I'm stuck with something unsatisfying, unadapted, outdated, even annoying sometimes, but since it somewhat does the job, I can't get myself to get rid of it, by laziness, fear of novelty, or simple stinginess. Then the stuff just disappear by itself for some reason, and then I'm *forced* to look for something new. And in 100% of the cases, I end up getting something way better and adapted than what I previously had. The funny thing is that this kind of "incident" often happens just when you need it to grow or move forward. ;)

About headphones, good idea but I don't have some, and since some good quality ones are nearly the same price as some good quality speakers, I'd rather go straight to the latter.




Two words - Go Shiina.

Really curious about this. I rather enjoyed some of the music coming from the previous episodes, mainly thanks to klnerfan's suites posted long ago in this thread, so it could be interesting. Thanks for the heads up!

Two more words - Overhyped, overrated.

Not that your words are surprise to me, but wanna ask: why? Guy really knows what is an orchestra and how to use it, he has his own style, he knows how to use electronic beat, and how to use electronica in a fun, creative way (and I never heard him drumming at bass drum like a maniac). For me he is pretty much underrated, he has mostly secondary composing jobs (which is a shame, but I guess it might have something to do with fact, that he works mostly with live instruments - so he can be expensive) and just handful of his own, full scores. And all of them are interesting on it's own merit. Legendia as eclectic, genre bending, and... surprising in terms of music itself (Ancient Ship and choir singing pam pam pam juts kills me every time I hear it:D), God eater is more electronic but still with lot's of big orchestral moments and great electronica (beats and modifications of sound).

Yes, Shiina is probably first composer that I'm almost a fanboy of. But I'm not tellin' that we all must love him (or do I?;)). I just wanna know something more - why he is overrated in your opinion? Is this more of I don't like him, but his music is not bad, or rather something like he writes crap - so I hate him?