Akashi San
04-21-2013, 03:03 AM
Bleu: Le Miracle de la Rose
FLAC|CUE|LOG|16 TRACKS~54:49
MY RIP
Composition, Arrangement: Yoshihisa Hirano
Piano: Masako Hosada
Saxophone: Kenta Fukui
Violin: Ami Taniguchi
Cello: Yasuo Maruyama

Album Info (
http://masakohosoda.com/release.html)
This is NOT an orchestral album nor is it an easy listening piano album, but it IS by our beloved Yoshihisa Hirano who almost never fails to deliver quality music. Does he deliver on this one? I think it really depends on your taste for solo piano music. I find it quite delicious, but Hirano needs an orchestra or at least an ensemble to sound more like him...! Most tracks are for a solo piano with an occasional accompaniment of other instruments listed above.
I would love to provide scans, but I don't have a working scanner at the moment. I'll have scans up when I have access to one (with Bleu's second album, hopefully). The booklet is only 4 pages with the first page being Takayuki Hattori's words of praise :D (Hattori was a much more established composer at the time - Hirano was just starting).
Download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!dJgWUDyA!C648z0BdkAl-1_bzOJCgKSnNJ5c0jlrhf_PYjSa1JVk
EDIT: "Imaginary" is spelt wrong in Tracks 9~14. This is because I copied the track names from the album's website, which has it wrong. Fortunately, the booklet has it right, meaning it was just their typo...
Sirusjr
04-21-2013, 06:39 AM
Yeah I watched the first three or four episodes of Psycho Pass and I wasn't excited by the music at all. Totally generic, even for Yugo Kanno.
tangotreats
04-21-2013, 03:30 PM
Yugo Kanno's anything but generic, even at his most electronic as in Psycho Pass... That said, I think you folks who don't like the score as a whole really, really should pay attention to the Psycho Pass Symphony on OST 2... It is what the name suggests. ;)
As for the rest of the score, I dunno... I should hate it... but I really, really like it. :O
Kanno's at his best writing melodic orchestral music, to be sure... but this stuff is really, really good, I think.
Vinphonic
04-21-2013, 04:44 PM
Welp. Tango liking an electronic score... the world is ending (Will check out Psycho Pass then!). I'm a bit busy lately and the pace of the thread really skyrocked in the past weeks so I'm hoping to catch up with all the music and post some goodies as well.
On another note, Majestic Prince even has choir (don't know if synth or not, sounded convincing) in the action pieces. Can't wait for the OST. I also did not expect to ever see the day when an opening has more music in it than the actual score but Shingeki no Kyojin really did it. Major disappointment.
Herr Salat
04-21-2013, 05:25 PM
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Herr Salat
04-21-2013, 10:10 PM
YŪGO KANNO
MEETS
ART & MUSIC
spin-off work from
the movie " The Intermission "
AAC ~250kbps | 27 Tracks | 01:01:27 | 117 MB
Release Date: 20.02.2013
Label: One Music
Catalog Number: DQC-1023
01. Intermission - Ai No Tema
02. Interlude 1 - Hohoemi
03. Intermission No Intermission
04. Interlude2 - Omoi
05. Showtime!
06. Interlude 3 - Nukumori
07. Akatsuki
08. Interlude 4 - Yokan
09. Pack Up Hopes
10. Interlude 5 - Suketti
11. A Trip
12. Hidamari
13. Interlude 6 - Kioku
14. Hana No Kasa
15. Sakura To Tegami
16. Ready For Your Love
17. Interlude 7 - Nemuri No Mori
18. Moon
19. Interlude 8 - Yume
20. Kiseki Wo Kureta Hito
21. Cosmic Note
22. Dear.
23. Interlude 9 - Kaerimichi
24. Present
25. Interlude 10 - Mutyou
26. Wailing
27. Kimi Ga Otona Ni Nattara
From the iTunes Store.
Where are the bloody drums? :'D
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!eUQSzbAa!Pl26ICxnE2jsD6PMh-l-HgibMAk3_RcLv2P5xfW2PvY
Akashi San
04-21-2013, 10:33 PM
Jesus, Herr Salat... What a crazy series of posts you put up this weekend. Thank you so much for every rip of yours plus this relaxing Yugo Kanno album (will be good for studying...!)
Here's a very melodic Yugo Kanno cue from Amalfi - Reward of Goddess:
https://mega.co.nz/#!YQI1kLiK!RBaEw0hFInCF8gw8oNRKagVf2EcE0yQh14mU_o2 UM8Y
nothingtosay
04-21-2013, 11:07 PM
YOSHIHISA HIRANO
SILK ROAD BOY YŪTO
Bleu: Le Miracle de la Rose
FLAC|CUE|LOG|16 TRACKS~54:49
MY RIP
Dude. Thanks. Crazy rare albums. FLAC. I'm half-expecting one of you to summon the Beyblade soundtracks in FLAC out of the ether.
And thanks to Tango for Walk�re Story. I happened upon that early last month when I listened to Namco Game Sound Express Volume 1: The Legend of Valkyrie. Surprisingly good and developed soundtrack given its vintage. Always pleased to see lossless rips of old, obscure albums.
Herr Salat
04-21-2013, 11:25 PM
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Akashi San
04-21-2013, 11:36 PM
Beyblade in higher quality would be good (I don't care that much about lossless), but there's less than 30 minutes of good music in both soundtracks combined. Definitely not worth $40+ each to buy a used copy through a bidding service.
NaotaM
04-21-2013, 11:50 PM
Thousand thanks for the Kanno posts, all. Brilliant, brilliant stuff.
Was just thinking how kind of insane and awesome it is Japan has this guy who's immensely talented at richly dissonant symphonic works of choral bombast and dark thunder, and he's got as high a reputation amongst the concert crowd as with producers of cutesy-poo comedy, shounen punch shows and some just plain silly-ass shit. The Japanese Goldsmith indeed.
The jobs a composer chooses to take and the producers/studios they form relationships with says a lot about them sometimes, and what it says about Hirano is that he'd probably be a sweet drinking partner.
Herr Salat
04-22-2013, 12:26 AM
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tangotreats
04-22-2013, 01:16 AM
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NaotaM
04-22-2013, 01:42 AM
whooosh, over the head
Doublehex
04-22-2013, 01:54 AM
m0hawk
04-22-2013, 05:11 AM
Thank you to every single poster and composer that has contributed to this thread. This is probably the single greatest thread I've encountered on the internet. You're all champions! Here are the clips of some of my favourites:
The Matrix Revolutions � Navras
Juno Reactor - Navras . HQ - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9s18rUaubc)
Shadow of the Colossus � The Opened Way
The Opened Way ~Battle with the Colossus~ - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrV5--cua8)
The Dark Knight � Like A Dog Chasing Cars
Hans Zimmer - Like A Dog Chasing Cars - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7S0Nttbh0)
Bayonetta � Fortitudo
Bayonetta Soundtrack: Fortitudo - In Labors And Dangers 1080p HD - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVUlTXuQ-o)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King Complete Recordings � The Battle of the Pelennor Fields
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King CR - 04. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8oqZ7SJN_8)
Devil May Cry 3 � Vergil 3
Devil May Cry 3 Music Soundtrack Vergil Battle 3 - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVNrs2sg_hU)
Mass Effect 2 � Suicide Mission
Mass Effect 2 - Suicide Mission Hybrid Mix (London Philharmonic Orchestra) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAcWuw2pDpo)
Sunshine � Sunshine (Adagio In D Minor)
John Murphy - Sunshine (Adagio In D Minor) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXVzg2PiZw)
Bayonetta � You May Call Me Father
Bayonetta Soundtrack: You May Call Me Father (Balder, Rodin Battle) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPVWv7X0c4)
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow � The Ice Titan
Castlevania Lords of Shadow Music - The Ice Titan - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-AVow9WBc)
Final Fantasy Dissidia 012 � Esper Battle
Advent Children OST - Advent One-Winged Angel - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmD478NnnoE)
Xenosaga Episode 2 � Communication Breakdown
Communication Breakdown - Xenosaga II Jenseits von Gut und B�se (MST) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtAFd_5apg0)
Herr Salat
04-22-2013, 08:42 AM
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Faleel
04-22-2013, 04:28 PM
Thank you to every single poster and composer that has contributed to this thread. This is probably the single greatest thread I've encountered on the internet. You're all champions! Here are the clips of some of my favourites:
The Matrix Revolutions – Navras
Juno Reactor - Navras . HQ - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9s18rUaubc)
Shadow of the Colossus – The Opened Way
The Opened Way ~Battle with the Colossus~ - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrV5--cua8)
The Dark Knight – Like A Dog Chasing Cars
Hans Zimmer - Like A Dog Chasing Cars - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7S0Nttbh0)
Bayonetta – Fortitudo
Bayonetta Soundtrack: Fortitudo - In Labors And Dangers 1080p HD - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVUlTXuQ-o)
Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King Complete Recordings – The Battle of the Pelennor Fields
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King CR - 04. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8oqZ7SJN_8)
Devil May Cry 3 – Vergil 3
Devil May Cry 3 Music Soundtrack Vergil Battle 3 - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVNrs2sg_hU)
Mass Effect 2 – Suicide Mission
Mass Effect 2 - Suicide Mission Hybrid Mix (London Philharmonic Orchestra) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAcWuw2pDpo)
Sunshine – Sunshine (Adagio In D Minor)
John Murphy - Sunshine (Adagio In D Minor) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXVzg2PiZw)
Bayonetta – You May Call Me Father
Bayonetta Soundtrack: You May Call Me Father (Balder, Rodin Battle) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFPVWv7X0c4)
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow – The Ice Titan
Castlevania Lords of Shadow Music - The Ice Titan - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-AVow9WBc)
Final Fantasy Dissidia 012 – Esper Battle
Advent Children OST - Advent One-Winged Angel - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmD478NnnoE)
Xenosaga Episode 2 – Communication Breakdown
Communication Breakdown - Xenosaga II Jenseits von Gut und B�se (MST) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtAFd_5apg0)
A little late!
Sirusjr
04-22-2013, 05:04 PM
I'd say those are a good starting point for becoming one of us. I started with many of those when I first became interested in orchestral music.
tangotreats
04-22-2013, 05:34 PM
Wow, way to make the guy feel like shit on his first post...
NaotaM
04-22-2013, 06:21 PM
I'd say those are a good starting point for becoming one of us.
Jesus H
Welcome to the thread, m0hawk! Great to see some appreciation for Bayonetta.
Sirusjr
04-22-2013, 07:58 PM
Jeez guys I was trying to be nice here. It looks very similar to my first contribution to the thread years ago. They are all good pieces of music and appeal to the same thing that we all enjoy. Everyone starts out with big bombastic stuff like he posted.
See: my first compilation post.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/21.html#post1194003
Doublehex
04-22-2013, 08:02 PM
The best of intentions are often fucked by the worst of executions.
Akashi San
04-22-2013, 08:17 PM
I don't find Sirus' post offensive to any degeee...
NaotaM
04-22-2013, 08:32 PM
What do you love most out of orchestral music, and what would you say is a common thread in all of the favorites you posted, m0hawk?
Also, this was just too painfully true to not laugh at.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/there-are-people-in-world-who-are-concerned-about,32162/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:quote:default
streichorchester
04-23-2013, 06:56 AM
I'm trying to figure out if that bit is mocking the idea that older music is better than newer music or is mocking the fact that some people try to explain why. It hurts my brains.
Zac2uzumaki
04-23-2013, 07:12 AM
Loving the thread!
Zac2uzumaki
04-23-2013, 07:13 AM
Bollocks; Hiroyuki Sawano on Attack On Titan. NaotaM will be pleased... but for the most of us, that's fucked pretty much any chance of that show getting a good score.
[Edit: Forget the placeholder; please see post below...] :)
Well, you were so wrong.
Akashi San
04-23-2013, 07:21 AM
What particular style of Sawano's Titan do you find so appealing, Zac2 (enough to blatantly call someone wrong)?
Anyhoo, welcome to the thread. :)
Herr Salat
04-23-2013, 08:30 AM
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Herr Salat
04-23-2013, 08:49 AM
LENNIE MOORE
WATCHMEN
MOTION COMIC
Adam Klemens, conductor
Igor Nemirovsky, orchestrator (on two episodes, according to IMDB)
MP3 320kbps | 25 Tracks | 01:09:17 | 159 MB
Release Date: ?
Vintage: 2008
Label: N/A
Catalog Number: N/A
Source: Lennie Moore's Official Website (
http://www.lenniemoore.com/home.html)
01. Who Watches The Watchmen?
02. Watchmaker
03. Dr M on Mars
04. Superman Exists
05. Viedt's Confession
06. I Am Pagliacci
07. Opening Crane Shot
08. Rorschach's Investigation
09. Two Nite Owls
10. Dan Walks Home
11. Break In
12. Two Silk Spectres
13. Rape & Slash
14. Dr M & Comedian In 'Nam
15. Comedian's Confession
16. Today He Told Me
17. Newstand 1
18. First Kiss
19. Sleeping With Dreiberg
20. I'm On Mars!
21. Castle Destruction
22. Black Freighter 3
23. Antarctica 1
24. Viedt's Vision
25. Kisses
I have talked to Lennie before about this. He can't get the rights for release and the company that owns it isn't easily convinced. 5 tracks eventually were put up for streaming (after a long time of annoying the companies to let him release stuff).
Lennie Moore's score for the Watchmen animated comic is a wonderful Golden Age symphonic masterpiece. If you're at all familar with his stellar work on "Outcast" (
Thread 89228) you'll know what to expect. A scoring technique that harkens back to the great symphonists of the 1940s and 1950s - and a very definite feeling of Bernard Herrmann as well.
I believe he recorded with a fifty piece orchestra in Prague (where else?).
It's a shame the official website didn't include the music when Dr. Manhattan was disintegrated. The screaming horns are so evocative, especially when the monologue says "Every atom screams at once. The light ... the light is taking me to pieces ..."
Though I really wish that it included the music from the final scene, which serves as a great conclusion to the series in my opinion.
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!hMNjCIRC!BgXL5hVMOIue2N-zGK_mI0yRaaxKk-6h-5liDGWo4Gw

m0hawk
04-23-2013, 10:56 AM
Wow you guys are super nice over here! What a bunch of weirdos!
Sirius' post is in no way offensive nor inaccurate. The pieces that I've posted are indeed some of the more well-known ones, but they are still incredible.
Naota, to answer your question, I'd say that my favourite pieces of music boil down (equally) to the most ridiculous, over-the-top, apocalyptic kind of music (E.g. "Navras" from The Matrix Revolutions), and the most beautiful pieces of music (E.g. "Dearly Beloved" from Kingdom Hearts 2). If you can combine the two successfully in one piece of music, you get all my respect (E.g. "Vergil 3" from Devil May Cry 3). If anyone has any recommendations for albums/songs of this special category, I would love to hear your suggestions.
It's such a damn shame that a lot of these links posted from years ago have expired. My thanks to every uploader!
nextday
04-23-2013, 01:22 PM
TOSHIYUKI WATANABE - SPACE BROTHERS BGM LIVE MEDLEY
FLAC | 59.3 MB | 1 TRACK - 10:48

VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/37822)
Catalog Number: ANZX-3862
Release Date: Mar 27, 2013
Download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!NFtDwJoC!RoOc9ywQeZVFBwUjfYUuahM-PoU0UKCKR2kQuHkAncY
I'm sure you've all been waiting for this.
Akashi San
04-23-2013, 01:53 PM
Yay for Space Brothers and Lennie Moore! Thanks, guys. :D
Tsobanian
04-23-2013, 02:53 PM
I think these two deserve a cross-post here into the bargain.....
Pictures at an Exhibition, orchestrated by V�clav Smet�cek + {Bohuslav Martinu Cello Concerto No 1}
Prague Symphony Orchestra, conductor Gennady Rozhdestvensky
One of the many people who set about orchestrating Pictures from an Exhibition was also the conductor V�clav Smet�cek "in whose life, composing was somewhat of a Cinderella, and when he did embark upon something, it was always from an external impulse only." His instrumentation of Pictures from an Exhibition was composed to be broadcast by the radio station Radiojournal at the outbreak of World War Two, at a time when Ravel was already on the list of forbidden composers.
Smet�cek V�clav - Lecyklop�dia (
http://leccos.com/index.php/clanky/smetacek-vaclav)
Pictures from an Exhibition - M. P. Mussorgsky / instr. V�clav Smet�cek (
http://www.rozhlas.cz/publishing/classical/_zprava/159438)
V�clav Smet�cek (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1clav_Smet%C3%A1%C4%8Dek)
FLAC download
Download Muss Smeta rar (
http://filewinds.com/uruc67grk9vc/Muss-Smeta.rar.html)
((special thanks to a particular person for this disc))
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Lucien Cailliet POWAH!

RACHMANINOV: Symphonic Dances (
http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=CV%205143)
Lucien Cailliet (Composer, Arranger) - Short Biography (
http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Lib/Cailliet-Lucien.htm)
RACHMANINOV: Symphonic Dances
Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, Sergiu Comissiona, Conductor
1. Preludes, Op. 23: No. 5 in G minor (orch. Lucien Cailliet)
2. Morceaux de fantaisie, Op. 3: No. 2 in C sharp minor (orch. Lucien Cailliet)
3. Capriccio on Gypsy Themes, Op. 12, "Caprice bohemien"
Symphonic Dances, Op. 45
4. I. Non allegro
5. II. Adante con moto - Tempo di valse
6. III. Lento assai - Allegro vivace - Lento assai come prima
Lame 3.98r MP3 320Kbps (My rip)
Rach Comissiona.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/?m1yy45o2l168qn9)
tangotreats
04-23-2013, 03:06 PM
Well, you were so wrong.
As a matter of fact, I think I've been proven absolutely correct.
What I failed to predict (to my shame) was that Sawano fans would appear out of the woodwork, and leap immediately to his defence with formidable musicological arguments such as "you're wrong"... ;)
I guess I was too focussed on expecting the customary earful from NaotaM! ;) (Which has not yet materialised... something is badly wrong with the universe, lately...)
JBarron2005
04-23-2013, 03:50 PM
Has anyone had a chance to listen to the new Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Remix soundtrack? I really like how Shimomura got many of the pieces performed although bringing in Kaoru Wada or even Natsumi Kameoka would have made for better arrangement. However, I believe the goal was to not venture too much from the originals just give them a better sound. Vector of the Heavens is probably my favorite piece on the whole score (which features Benyamin Nuss on piano). I would say Scherzo di Notte would be second to that.
NaotaM
04-23-2013, 04:08 PM
The Onion's mocking the arbitrary super-seriousness of music nerds and music criticism. As for Sawano, well, since you asked...:p
I let the Sawano thing slide because times are busy lately and I just can't be arsed to waste breath arguing on things that don't affect me personally or had a hand in creating anymore and cognitive dissonance is a bitch. So argue, I won't. Instead, I will merely clarify.
Whoever it was who equated the RC style of orchestration to traditional rock composition; Streich or Tazer, I forget who, sorry; had it spot on, and Hiroyuki Sawano seems acutely aware of this. He's proven he can write closer to traditional, full-bodied symphonic work (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxfOEXBto8), but having heard the vast majority of his available work, he's a hard rock musician deep down. He lives and breathes brash, loud bombast, and few things typify that more than Zimmer in a modern orchestral context.
So why not just take that to the most logical extreme and write flat-out rock-orchestra fusions? Much as Zimmer and his flock ruffle feathers in the confines of this thread, their brand of music is intensely popular for a reason and have their own specific reasons for why they succeed and why they fail same as any other genre. Sawano takes everything that exemplifies the RC sound; relentless ostinati, monolithic walls of noise, backing percussion and electronic meddling; and plays them to their most ridiculous. Just slapping drums over and over is boring. Ferocious drum kit abuse and rapid-fire ethnic percussion, tho? That has more flavor. Some Hollywood scores play with the idea of integrating guitar, but Sawano laces tracks with screeching solos like it went out of style 30 years ago(and with fairness, so did Golden Age Hollywood scores.) Who needs a big fancy choir you won't even hear the individual members of when you can hire a gaggle of j-pop talents and get the weirdest, almost R-n-B'ish tilt in harmony as a result. (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1i6piaF6wA)
That's why I love Sawano. He takes a typically rote, uninspired sound and plays to its strengths in striking, contemporary ways. And it works! Tacky? Populist? Absolutely, but he's curiously inspired in his tackiness. Simplistic? Ehhhhh. Tango has it right, he's not much of a man for melody. Again, Unicorn has proven he can develop several themes beautifully when he's focusing, but Gundam's something of a kingmaker and demands a certain panache. The melodies in his more Zimmer-ish orchestral fare aren't terribly memorable and tend to rely on the same patterns of ascending notes, but the melodies aren't the point. They're merely a driving force, something the ear can anchor to while the LOUD exploding all around them rockets the listener into the stratosphere. Because the loudness is the point. It's closer to arena rock than a symphonic concert piece. The iffy, clipping-prone mixing often used to emphasize the effect only highlights this. The key to enjoying it, I guess, is how much you can appreciate the constitute parts and what they add to the whole, because in that area, he can be startlingly (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EREOavulq4) creative (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B6Tnq9kr3w).
I'm just glad he even bothers to WRITE melodies. That alone puts him above his contemporaries. I love how, as typical of most composers who work primarily in j-drama, his tracks tend to be fully-developed, meaty affairs, rarely dipping below two minutes, rarely sit in one place for long and have an atmospheric, narrative drive to them. He's thoroughly, unabashedly cinematic, even at his most ludicrous, and years of following Iwasaki despite the notion he's stuck in a rut(an opinion I don't necessarily share anymore) has taught me an appreciation for musicians even and especially when their muse inspires them to be willfully outlandish. I love his choice of vocalists(and ironically love his choice of lyricists.) I love his stupid-ass naming conventions. And I love that there's a musician like Sawano in a medium overflowing with Kanno's, Oshima's and Tanaka's.
He's no Yasuo Higuchi certainly. The two barely compare........because neither one even attempts the same things as the other and comparing one or the other by the same metric is silly.
Because sometimes, I don't feel like listening to Tempest. It's brilliant, radiant music, but sometimes it's not exactly digestible. Sometimes I get just as much of a rush and exhuberant love of the medium of music listening to this ridiculous horseshit. (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRgsc9IVP60&playnext=1&list=PLitRHuIVsSqOts6vGWpEQuV6QKXvWUfvP) Wonderfully produced, utterly silly horseshit that throws itself whole-hog into being horseshit. That takes talent. I honestly don't see what's so wrong with liking both. :)
Herr Salat
04-23-2013, 11:03 PM
He's no Yasuo Higuchi certainly. The two barely compare........because neither one even attempts the same things as the other and comparing one or the other by the same metric is silly.
NaotaM, but what about Sawano's use of the term "symphonic poem"? I haven't listened to any symphonic poem from the composers of yesteryear the Wikipedia (
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonic_poem) mentions yet (And then there's Jonne Valtonen's The Legend of Zelda Suite (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmeYdmtPa98) which is also a symphonic poem? :'D). Isn't this the moment where he attempts the same thing?
I guess it's like, for example, true film noir, which only existed in a certain period. And then there's neo-noir updating the old.
NaotaM
04-23-2013, 11:10 PM
NaotaM, but what about Sawano's use of the term "symphonic poem"? I haven't listened to any symphonic poem from the composers of yesteryear the Wikipedia (
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonic_poem) mentions yet (And then there's Jonne Valtonen's The Legend of Zelda Suite (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmeYdmtPa98) which is also a symphonic poem? :'D). Isn't this the moment where he attempts the same thing?
I guess it's like, for example, true film noir, which only existed in a certain period. And then there's neo-noir updating the old.
See his silly naming conventions, particularly with Blue Exorcist. The dude will call literally anything a "symphonic poem" if it sounds like a cool title. Doesn't bother me none. Artists are allowed to their pretensions here and there.
tangotreats
04-23-2013, 11:23 PM
I still say that everything Sawano has ever written is an absolute crock of shit... but your detailed post was fascinating and even though I don't agree with your opinion I now feel as though I understand it... Whatever happened to old NaotaM? You know, the crazy bastard who begins every critique with a variation of "What a stupefyingly pretentious prick you are for writing that self-aggrandising, astoundingly arrogant essay of consummate stupidity!"? I kinda miss that guy. Not really! ;)
In all seriousness, thank you. There is much to think about in that. :)
As far as symphonic poems go... I smell a new compilation coming up...
NaotaM
04-24-2013, 12:15 AM
"Whatever happened to old NaotaM?"
Ummm, embarrassment?
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 12:58 AM
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Sanico
04-24-2013, 01:05 AM
New Hisaishi soundtrack for the Ghibli Kaze Tachinu, is to be released next July at the time of the film opening date.
Also the Studio Ghibli movie Kaguyahime no Monogatari (not directed by Myazaki), has the music score credited to Joe Hisaishi and...Shinichiro Ikebe.
Not sure if this means that the main theme(s) are composed only by Hisaishi with Ikebe adapting into his own score, or if it's a collaboration between the two with both composers creating a score individually for certain scenes.
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 01:12 AM
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Akashi San
04-24-2013, 01:19 AM
As great as Hisaishi is, I would personally love to see another composer take up the task of composing for a Ghibli movie. I think SOUHEI KANO (in my dreams, I know) would be SO PERFECT for the job.
tangotreats
04-24-2013, 01:20 AM
May I ask for the source of that information? ANN credits Ikebe and Hisaishi but every official source I have seen since February credits Hisaishi solely, implying that Ikebe was fired or walked off the project. If he does still have some involvement, I suspect it might be the other way around; maybe some of Ikebe's theme is staying in the movie and Hisaishi will be interpolating it into his own score. I sincerely doubt that Ikebe is "back" on the film in any serious capacity... although stranger things have happened... :)
Sanico
04-24-2013, 01:37 AM
I've seen in that ANN site, with Hisaishi and Ikebe in the music of Kaguyahime. I haven't read nothing beyond of what i've seen there, so i guess that info is outdated then?
But it makes more sense to only have one composer in the project, unless there's a schedule conflict for Hisaishi agenda.
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 02:31 AM
Sanico
04-24-2013, 07:09 AM
An orchestral score like Mulan played by a pile of cheap synth keyboards... **ears bleeding**
Zac2uzumaki
04-24-2013, 07:54 AM
@tangotreats I apologize for that.
Not a fan of Sawano but i'm enjoying the music so far and that's what really matter here, could careless what other people think. I guess i should keep these things to myself next time hehe. :D
You know, to avoid the trouble of arguing with someone over the internet. Sorry guys!
tangotreats
04-24-2013, 10:54 AM
No apology necessary... And whoever said a friendly argument was a bad thing? :)
tangotreats
04-24-2013, 10:56 AM
HAHAHAHAHA The Hollywood Symphony Orchestra!
And that vocalist in the first track... wow, I'm gobsmacked! Not a single note in tune!
nextday
04-24-2013, 02:29 PM
May I ask for the source of that information? ANN credits Ikebe and Hisaishi but every official source I have seen since February credits Hisaishi solely, implying that Ikebe was fired or walked off the project. If he does still have some involvement, I suspect it might be the other way around; maybe some of Ikebe's theme is staying in the movie and Hisaishi will be interpolating it into his own score. I sincerely doubt that Ikebe is "back" on the film in any serious capacity... although stranger things have happened... :)
Yes, ANN's information about Kaguyahime is simply outdated. Hisaishi is the sole composer.
I'm guessing they originally wanted Hisaishi to score both of the films but it didn't work for out since they were scheduled to open on the same day. When they ended up delaying Kaguyahime until fall, the new time frame happened to work out for Hisaishi.
tangotreats
04-24-2013, 02:45 PM
Indeed... shame for Ikebe, though... it's not like he's a nobody or he's crap... getting dumped - even for Hisaishi - is a big kick in the teeth at the best of times.
Doublehex
04-24-2013, 03:08 PM
Indeed... shame for Ikebe, though... it's not like he's a nobody or he's crap... getting dumped - even for Hisaishi - is a big kick in the teeth at the best of times.
That has to suck for anyone, regardless of quality. I'm sure even a crappy composer works his ass off to try to write the best music he possibly can, and to just be thrown to the side like that has to be at the least insulting.
It's show business, and sometimes they treat you like shit.
Beechcott
04-24-2013, 07:07 PM
What are your thoughts on Danny Elfman's score for "Oz the Great and Powerful"? I found it to be one of his best recent efforts, with some very memorable themes.
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 08:59 PM
NOBUO UEMATSU
SYMPHONIC SUITE
FINAL FANTASY
Tokyo Symphony Orchestra
Orchestrated by Katsuhisa Hattori and Takayuki Hattori
Conducted by Katsuhisa Hattori
FLAC + SCANS | 7 Scenes | 00:39:49 | 180 MB
Original Release Date: 25.07.1984
Release Date: 25.03.1994
Label: Datam Polystar
Catalog Number: PSCR-5253
Source: BakaBT (
http://bakabt.me/130907-final-fantasy-music-collection-flac.html) / Thanks to the orignal uploader!
Scene I [Main Theme (FINAL FANTASY II)]
Scene II
Scene III [Opening Theme ~ Town ~ Matoya's Cavern (FINAL FANTASY)]
Scene IV [Finale (FINAL FANTASY II)]
Scene V ~Prelude~ [ Prelude ~ Main Theme ~ Chaos' Temple (FINAL FANTASY)]
Scene VI [Gurgu Volcano (FINAL FANTASY) ~ Dungeon (FINAL FANTASY II) ~ Imperial Army Theme (FINAL FANTASY II)]
Scene VII [Rebel Army Theme (FINAL FANTASY II)]
VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/3787)
Arthierr shared this four years ago (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/134.html#post1339763), so here's a re-up :'D
"Prelude" of Scene V (up to 1:24) is composed by Takayuki Hattori.
Some people don't like this because it isn't as recognizable as other people's arrangements. It is a wonderfully thoughtful and intelligent take on the material. Takayuki Hattori took the material and made a lovely new creation out of it. Listen to Scenes V, VI, and VII (the first four were arranged by his father not him). I think you will like it.
[b]DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!IYlhSJTa!esATdgP6rAflssygrpmLZjEvLM1xobsZ_WnRz4r ZAgM
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 09:19 PM
TAKAYUKI HATTORI
ROMANCE OF THE THREE KINGDOMS V
Studio Orchestra
Conducted by Takayuki Hattori
FLAC | 10 Tracks | 00:42:49 | 207 MB
Release Date: 21.12.1995
Label: KOEI
Catalog Number: KECH-1095
Source: Akashi San (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/451.html#post2262326)
01. Dragon of Shine
02. Fragrant Spring
03. Winter Stars
04. The Pulverising Snow Dragon
05. Glittery Dragon March
06. Dance of Silver
07. Summer in the Native Place
08. Phoenix Orchid
09. Sea Dragon Arrival
10. The Heavenly Peach Land
VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/3051) (Translated tracks by Dragon of Beam of Light)
Since Akashi San's Mediafire links are down, here's a re-up :'D
(Continued) For the record I think Romance of the Three Kingdoms V is my favorite of his. :)
I knew I was forgetting something: Takayuki Hattori's score to Romance of the Three Kingdoms V. It's some of the best authentic Japanese orchestral music I've heard, and rivals Kanno's work on Nobunaga's Ambition.
It's crazy how much better Romance of the Three Kingdoms V works as a soundtrack compared to IV (Jun Nagao) (
Thread 126666). Both are solid orchestral efforts, but I've noticed a lot of the Japanese scores getting posted here tend to be more classical/concert hall efforts rather than soundtracks. It's hard to explain what I mean, but I think a lot of it has to do with the thematic content.
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!QJMCxJ4J!asBXFEGJvQABSV56V1WHmkKPcPU-Hkm-ebtsplbPydM
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 09:23 PM
Falcom Sound Team J.D.K.
FALCOM NEO CLASSIC
FROM STUDIOS IN LONDON CITY
Orchestrated by Takayuki Hattori
London Symphony Orchestra*
Conducted by Konstantin Pavrov
MP3 -v0 | 6 Tracks | 00:43:42 | 70 MB
Release Date: 21.11.1992
Label: King Records
Catalog Number: KICA-1114~5
Source: #gamemp3s
1. LILIA Symphonic Suite
2. Josephine
3. Off the Deep End ~ LA VALSE POUR XANADU ~ Dragon Slayer The Legend of Heroes
4. WANDERERS FROM Ys
5. Cursed Land ~ Sorcerian Cursed Oasis [Desert] ~ Medusa's Head [Village]
6. THE LEGEND OF HEROES
VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/1470)
Arthierr (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/75.html#post1233369) and ShadowSong (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/182.html#post1448273) shared this four years ago, so here's a re-up :'D
Disc 2 is Jun Irie's synth arrangement of other Falcom tracks? Disc 3 is rehearsal audio of the London recording sessions. Both are included, but I just wanted to highlight disc 1, Takayuki Hattori's orchestrated tracks performed by the LSO; string quartet* :'D
(Continued) Falcom Neo Classic is also incredibly gorgeous though...
I have alot of respect for the man. Not only because he is a gifted composer/arranger but that he takes time and puts alot of attention into often over looked pieces and really gives them the attention and treatment they deserve. Like much of this album is over looked by the musical community because it is old falcom music, but he can take the music with all the limitations it had and flesh it out so wonderfully.
I never tire of listening to his recordings.
That's the LSO? Crikey! They *did* push the boat out... Usually I steer clear of anything "Falcom Sound Studio" or similar, because it usually means a ridiculously shoddy synthesiser! Thank you for opening my eyes!
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!kJ1yhJgB!eI5pJznlBWxfJ1P4tbKxSjQFP4IWl3jeRQRE_6c GjtY
EDIT: FLAC here (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/483.html#post2334275).
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 10:11 PM
Title: Hekiku (Blue Sky) ~Au Ciel Bleu~
Composer: Takayuki Hattori
Peformance: Japan Air Self-Defense Force Central Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHzLEft7mhU
His first wind ensemble composition.
Herr Salat
04-24-2013, 10:52 PM
By the way, I would kill to hear the Jun Nagao's Taiga drama score... :)
JUN NAGAO
RYŪKYŪ NO KAZE
DRAGON SPIRIT
Mantenboshi Orchestra (満天星楽団)
Conducted by Jun Nagao
MP3 320kbps | 12 Tracks | 00:46:15 | 106 MB
Release Date: 26.05.1993
Label: Datam Polydor
Catalog Number: DPCX-5006
Source: Xiami (
http://www.xiami.com/album/370617)
01. Sea Kingdom (
http://kiwi6.com/file/5wu4y2rfg3)
02. Heroes
03. At The Forbidden City
04. Wind, Covering
05. Ambition
06. Father's Afterimage
07. To Distant Mother
08. Royal Palace Ayaka
09. Now Drifting
10. Blighted Love Song
11. High Tide
12. Stairs
Discogs (
http://www.discogs.com/%E9%95%B7%E7%94%9F%E6%B7%B3-NHK%E5%A4%A7%E6%B2%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9E%E 7%90%89%E7%90%83%E3%81%AE%E9%A2%A8-Dragon-Spirit%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD%E9%9B%86/release/3872784)
Title of the show/score could be translated as "Winds of the Ryūkyū Islands". "Dragon Spirit" is the tagline. According to the etymology, Ryūkyū was once a descriptive name for 'glazed horn-dragon', so therefore the tagline on the cover. Front cover and back cover from a Yahoo auction sale ^^"
Honky tonky wonky translation. I just noticed this useful Discogs. The last track is actually composed by Shinji Tanimura, so you have to re-tag that one ^^"
Definitely a lot better than Angel's Egg Guy's Taiga drama score (
Thread 130680) :'D
NHK's pretigious Taiga dramas are certainly known for their scores, and for their propensity to receive impeccable opening themes. A very important fact about the Taiga dramas; they have the world's longest, most intricate opening titles sequences - even by Japanese standards where a minute of opening credits and 90 seconds of closing credits are the norm, the Taiga dramas traditionally receive a full THREE MINUTE opening credits sequence: A magnificent blessing in this world obsessed with speed, ratings, and advertising revenue; that a Television station would allow three full minutes of rousing symphonic music accompanied by credits is surely a testament to the venerable, quality-driven NHK. Certainly another case of "Only in Japan"...
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!RI1mkAYa!D-Er9H6XOfaG-7s1pSwX8hmRiLpScjsrq1U02IiD9pc
Akashi San
04-24-2013, 11:54 PM
Herr Salat, thank you so much for digging out Nagao's Ryukyu no Kaze! The orchestra is quite small but I love the music! More melodic and varied than Y.K.'s Homura Tatsu for sure (also much better than the most recent Taiga Drama score...!). The "wonky" translation looks actually okay here. Only 4 tracks need a slight adjustment:
4. Wind, Crossing
7. To Mother from Far Away
9. Endless Drifting
10. Tragic Love Song
And finally, here's Falcom Neo Classic in FLAC.
DOWNLOAD:
https://mega.co.nz/#!8IBGya5a!RDYtswWHYhplq1EzV4fKiXj2aQ5e05kYNWHQCWI IJ8I
streichorchester
04-25-2013, 05:15 AM
The Hollywood Symphony Orchestra performs Nobuo Uematsu's Liberi Fatali as you've never heard it before!
Amazon.com: Liberi Fatali (Final Fantasy VIII): The Hollywood Symphony Orchestra & Chorus: Official Music (
http://www.amazon.com/Liberi-Fatali-Final-Fantasy-VIII/dp/B00860RF2W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366863239&s=dmusic&sr=1-1)
Vinphonic
04-25-2013, 11:36 AM
Akashi San
04-25-2013, 05:27 PM
KOUSUKE YAMASHITA
Yamato Nadesihko Shinchi Henge (2010)
I'm terribly sorry to bring this back up from more than 2 years ago (!), but could anyone please re-upload this...? :(
EDIT: Never me mind. Found it floating on the web!
tangotreats
04-25-2013, 05:51 PM
How about a FLAC upgrade for one of Koichi Sugiyama's finest and most severely underrated works? Composed thirty-two years ago and still magnificent... ladies and gentlemen...
KOICHI SUGIYAMA
Symphony "Ideon"
(a four movement symphony based on Sugiyama's themes from Space Runaway Ideon)
Tokyo Philharmonic Orchestra
conducted by
Kazuhiko Komatsu (RIP; 1947-2013)
My rip. FLAC at Level 8. Booklet scans included.
https://mega.co.nz/#!g1JTwLYJ!K6XspExBonBGUt18aZ9ufSexsgd69ylGMMyW0FQ 6POM
Koichi Sugiyama has been a bit of a victim of his own success, I think... most casual listeners would be forgiven for thinking he scored Dragon Quest and never wrote another note of music for anything. Of course, that's not true... throughout his long career he has produced many great works... and perhaps none greater than the music he wrote for Yoshiyuki Tomino's Space Runaway Ideon. He contributed the TV score, which is pretty standard late 70s, early 80s fare - small orchestra, and an incessant disco rhythm everywhere you look! He also scored two films (in a symphonic style) and finally, this piece... a 37 minute fully fleshed-out symphony based on his melodies from the TV series. It has been released a few times, most recently as part of a four-disc box set in 2009 - and it is from this box set that my upload comes. And that's where things get annoying.
First things first; this is a 1981 recording - please adjust your expectations accordingly! Not to say that it's bad, but it's occasionally boxy... this piece badly needs a re-recording. If Symphony Yamato got one, why not Symphony Ideon? Anyway, I digress... The source material is not pristine. Unfortunately, that's not the only problem we have to contend with. The CD is atrociously mastered; clipping galore, I'm afraid folks - and not the sort of "graceful" clipping we get nowadays... I mean good old fashioned CLIPPING - digital clicks, pops, and snaps... the really annoying sort. I do plan to do something about this - but I wanted to upload the original before I started fiddling around with it for the archivists and for the folk who don't trust me... So - this is what you get on the CD, untouched, unvarnished, in all its dubious glory.
Frankly, it's so damn good I could forgive almost anything!
I have included booklet scans for the whole set even though 90% of them are irrelevant to this symphony. I have also included the standalone cover, since the boxset cover really doesn't provide much in the way of clues as to the content... it does, however, provide some rather annoying spoilers for anybody who hasn't seen the series of accompanying theatrical movies... although I think after thirty years you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who didn't know what happens at the end...
...a thought which leads neatly into a note of remembrance - the conductor of this recording, Kazuhiko Komatsu, passed away just over three weeks ago at the tender age of sixty-five. RIP, Maestro.
As ever, please enjoy. :)
Herr Salat
04-25-2013, 10:32 PM
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Herr Salat
04-25-2013, 11:18 PM
TAKATSUGU MURAMATSU
DAICHI NO FANFARE
Sapporo Symphony Orchestra
Conducted by Taizo Takemoto
AAC ~250kbps | 20 Tracks | 00:36:42 | 69 MB
Release Date: 29.02.2012
Label: NHK Publishing, Inc.
01. "Fanfare Of The Earth" Main Theme
02. The Worst Encounter
03. Leftovers
04. Inferiority Complex
05. Male Bonds
06. Men And Horses United
07. Little Hope
08. Determination's Reign
09. Unyielding Match
10. Ban'ei Horses' Living Place
11. Horseman As The Jumping Obstacle
12. Hidden Feelings
13. One Step Before Setback
14. Horse's Everyday Life
15. Obstacle
16. Communicating From The Heart
17. Living At The Barn
18. Clear Weather In Tokachi And Ban'Ei Horses
19. Cutting Through The Land Of Hope
20. Horse Racing Entry!
Wonky translation. Only out in the iTunes Store. There are two other soundtracks (and a solo album) from him in iTunes, but I can't say no to a score that has the word fanfare in the title ^^". Also, a big orchestra's featured in a few tracks. More albums are available on Xiami, so maybe I'll download another good score from this composer and share it here someday :'D
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!GA4STCja!BIkDwjjJ-Ton1imK9bmbZXvRR_V6LQQgSPRIicFn8fg
Akashi San
04-26-2013, 12:00 AM
Thanks for Ideon, Tango. I confess I'm one of those people who have 0 knowledge of Sugiyama's work outside Dragon Quest. The sound isn't TOO bad, but if you are going to post your tinkered version, I would love to give that a listen.
And Mr. Crazy Shopper Salat, thanks for that Muramatsu score! I have always considered him as a significantly-less-talented Senju, but there's some good stuff in here (the main theme is delightful). Thank you thank you. :D I'll fix the tracklist up a bit when I have time.
Jennifer613
04-26-2013, 02:36 AM
WOW! This is going to be fun, I can tell you!
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JBarron2005
04-26-2013, 08:16 AM
https://soundcloud.com/josh-barron/new-earth-new-life
I wrote a new composition that I want to share with you all. Every one of you are more experts than I at orchestral music and I value and respect your input. I know it is synthesized, but unfortunately I am a poor man and too poor to afford a real orchestra to perform it. Maybe one day I will get to, but for now I must settle for sound fonts ;). Anyway I hope you all enjoy. Feel free to check out my other works also!
jlaidler
04-26-2013, 09:18 AM
Seems everyone has switched to Mega. Might have to capitulate and get Chrome or something. Does Mega work better than Gamefront after all then?
Herr Salat
04-26-2013, 09:28 AM
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jlaidler
04-26-2013, 09:32 AM
Firefox on an XP-Pro machine.
Herr Salat
04-26-2013, 09:35 AM
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jlaidler
04-26-2013, 10:14 AM
I'll think about it if something which looks like something I really want comes along.
Herr Salat
04-26-2013, 10:18 AM
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tangotreats
04-26-2013, 11:00 AM
jlaidler: Installing Chrome takes twenty seconds. Installing the browser extenson takes five seconds. Complaining about not wanting to install Chrome or the browser extension takes any number of minutes... and regularly passing up Mega links in favour of slower, inferior file hosts costs you more time too... ;)
nextday
04-26-2013, 03:42 PM
TAKATSUGU MURAMATSU
DAICHI NO FANFARE
Sapporo Symphony Orchestra
Conducted by Taizo Takemoto
Thanks. I have two solo piano albums by him if anyone is interested.
By the way, if anyone can find a download for his song "EARTH" I'd appreciate it. It was only released on this 2003 album (
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/earth-furuto-ming-quno-lu/id307986943). Here's a performance on YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii7XA4I38Ok).
Sirusjr
04-26-2013, 05:28 PM
Thanks for sharing all these recent scores. Tango, I will wait for your fixed version as those clicks and pops drive me absolutely BONKERS in any music. If you have some other Koichi Sugiyama that is performed by full orchestra I'd love to hear it. I had one that was purely synth orchestra and sounded horrible so I deleted it.
Herr Salat - you have been posting a wealth of scores and I would be swimming in amazeballs if I hadn't already had most of the orchestral game music already on my hard drive.
Also, I just found Akira Senju's Iron Chef and dear god mind blown. I will post it for everyone soon.
Akashi San
04-26-2013, 05:48 PM
Akira Senju: "226" Suite ~Requiem for Showa~
FLAC|CUE|LOG|9 TRACKS~35:37
Not My Rip
Performed by The Philharmonia Orchestra
Conducted by Anthony Inglis
DOWNLOAD:
https://mega.co.nz/#!pQJ1wRDA!EfJFtWEyRJsvNXVSAvnBODrG64xQJj8FeYDF-TUSJ_s
This is just an upgrade to Herr Salat's MP3 share. One of Senju's best, I feel. I really want a physical copy of this but it's out of print, and the cheapest listing on Amazon.co.jp is almost ¥10,000... This lossless rip will do until I am rich enough to bath in money... :D Thanks goes to the original Chinese ripper who is also the original uploader of Tetsujin 28 soundtrack I shared earlier.
Self-plagiarism detected in "Anxiety" - although the progression is a bit different, it's later recycled in Full Metal Alchemist.
Zac2uzumaki
04-27-2013, 01:40 AM
I need someone to recommend me an ost that can blow my hears of epicness? lol
Sirusjr
04-27-2013, 03:42 AM
jlaidler
04-27-2013, 04:47 AM
Thanks for the advice. My main reason for hesitating wasn't the spying issue, it's the running issue. I'm running an old XP machine but now have a little over 2ggis of ram in it so it runs great these days, I'm just concerned about Chrome being too resource hungry and crashing etc, but I"ll give it a go when I could be bothered too, just too lazy so far. But I'll get to it.
Akashi San
04-27-2013, 05:50 AM
Hey, Zac2. I think Sirus' suggestions are solid but it would be more helpful to tell us what music sounds "epic" to you. :)
Einojuhani Rautavaara: Song of My Heart ~Orchestral Songs~
FLAC|CUE|LOG|19 TRACKS~57:51
Not My Rip
Gabriel Suovanen: Baritone
Leif Segerstam: Conductor
Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra
DOWNLOAD:
https://mega.co.nz/#!NARjiIia!eqHTUmuOcerAI_ceYEociiZgQtl-21o96RAiVG_XOvk
A fascinating classical composer that I discovered recently. There is mystic sound to his writing that makes me keep listening. I hope this doesn't bore anybody... :D
Ravoc
04-27-2013, 08:37 AM
Thanks. I have two solo piano albums by him if anyone is interested.
I'm very interested. I'd appreciate it if you upload.
Zac2uzumaki
04-27-2013, 08:41 AM
@Akashi San I'm looking for something like this:
https://soundcloud.com/zacky-san/untitled
^^
Herr Salat
04-27-2013, 10:41 AM
William Stromberg
TRINITY AND BEYOND
Additional music by John Morgan, Lennie Moore, and Edgardo Simone
Moscow Symphony Orchestra and Chorus
Conducted by William Stromberg
FLAC + LOG + SCANS | 24 Tracks | 00:58:05 | 303 MB
Release Date: 01.10.1996
Label: Filmharmonic Records
Catalog Number: FHR-10813
01. Monument Site/TNT Test
02. Newsreel Part 1 + 2
03. Fat Man & Little Boy
04. Hiroshima And Nagasaki - Requiem
05. Crossroads
06. Armada Annihilation
07. Deus Vult
08. Nautical Graveyard
09. Operation Sandstone
10. Improved Stockpile Bomb
11. Russian Parade
12. Operation Ranger Able
13. Operation Greenhouse
14. Boosting With Tritium/The George Device
15. Precursor Of Grable
16. Castle Bravo
17. Operation Wigwam
18. Thermonuclear Cherokee
19. The Hood Device
20. Operation Hardtack/Teak And Orange
21. Russian Monster Bomb/Operation Dominic
22. Christmas Island Test
23. Thor Missile Tests
24. Chinese Work Song/Chinese Army
Track 2 "Newsreel 1", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 6 "Armada Annihilation", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 7 "Deus Vult", composed and orchestrated by Lennie Moore.
Track 8 "Nautical Graveyard", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 9 "Operation Sandstrom", composed and orchestrated by Edgardo Simone.
Track 12 "Operation Ranger Able", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 13 "Operation Greenhouse", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 14 "Boosting With Tritium/The George Device", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 15 "Precursor Of Grable", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 16 "Castle Bravo", composed and orchestrated by Lennie Moore.
Track 17 "Operation Wigwam", composed and orchestrated by Lennie Moore.
Track 18 "Thermonuclear Cherokee", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 19 "The Hood Device", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan.
Track 20 "Operation Hardtrack", composed and orchestrated by Lennie Moore.
Track 21 "Russian Monster Bomb/Operation Dominic", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan
Track 22 "Christmas Island Test", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan
Track 23 "Thor Missle Tests", composed and orchestrated by John Morgan
Arthierr (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/24.html#post1170725) shared this three years ago and El Cid (
Thread 118168) shared this in his own thread last year in July. Both links are down, so here's my rip. I notice there are two other reprints (
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/10908/Trinity+And+Beyond) by VCE Trinity and BSX Records (this one even being "newly remastered with improved sound"). Oh-oh. I'll ask El Cid to re-upload his share again. Maybe it's one from the other reprints :'D
This score is awesomely orchestrated and performed, but it also borrows a lot from Mahler, Prokofiev, and Herrmann. Oh well, still very good stuff. The Requiem bit is genius. Lennie Moore helped out a bit with this one too. You can see the similarities to his Outcast score (also performed by the Moscow Symphony.)
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!JU91mRJT!F_-xKRff9S8rJgSouH45ti7OZEB5UrNPQnNYA7Lq20A
Herr Salat
04-27-2013, 02:25 PM
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nextday
04-27-2013, 03:44 PM
I'm very interested. I'd appreciate it if you upload.
TAKATSUGU MURAMATSU - TOKYO
FLAC, LOG | 202.1 MB | 9 TRACKS - 44:48

Catalog Number: MDCL-1360
Release Date: Nov 10, 1999
1. Ako
2. Declining Spirit
3. Alley
4. Tokyo
5. Wood
6. Family
7. Country
8. Sacred Slope
9. Variation
Download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!lMUkTRRD!T222Jk-48YKvu-tNz5LeNjjCJZpMfhpi8tG_Y-V9gro
TAKATSUGU MURAMATSU - PIANO SINGS
FLAC, LOG | SCANS | 248.9 MB | 13 TRACKS - 51:30

Catalog Number: TOCP-70678
Release Date: Feb 18, 2009
1. Departure
2. Birth
3. No Other Love
4. "Dandan" Theme Song
5. The Magic Is Gone
6. Because You're Here
7. Box of Goblins
8. Feel The World
9. Far Away
10. Asian Future
11. Song of Life
12. The Whereabouts of Truth
13. Movie "Climber's High" Theme Song
Download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!MEcUSaQb!ZdVsBn3gWPHTHV2QZ_YSPBKIV8FEEut9nXjCvHG Uc9M
Low effort translation. A couple piano albums. A mix of classical, jazz, and pop I suppose. Muramatsu seems to be a pretty good composer though I've not heard many of his works yet.
Akashi San
04-27-2013, 04:16 PM
@Akashi San I'm looking for something like this:
https://soundcloud.com/zacky-san/untitled
^^
That's not really orchestral, is it...? I would have to recommend music I abolutely hate listening. Here's still a shot - Two Steps from Hell...? But you should first give orchestral albums here a chance. :D
William Stromberg
TRINITY AND BEYOND
Thanks a lot for the FLAC upgrade!
Herr Salat
04-27-2013, 04:17 PM
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Herr Salat
04-27-2013, 08:06 PM
Since Akashi San's Mediafire links are down and only klnerfan's Ziddou link works, here are re-up links. Tempest's range is not splitted yet, a MP3 -v0 encode is included in the archive, plus custom front/back covers by tangotreats and TazerMonkey :'D
How about:
Michiru Oshima - Zetsuen No Temptest OST Vol.1 (Original Post) (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/463.html#post2289708)
Re-Up:
https://mega.co.nz/#!sF1hwK4b!aieYTjcrsrpLzE6wOSGuLiN4lGsl8qbQHNv1UgQ bvZU
Shiro Sagisu, Masamicz Amano (Orchestrator) - Berserk: The Golden Age Arc (Custom Score) (Original Post) (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/455.html#post2270100)
Re-Up:
https://mega.co.nz/#!EN8xyASJ!DUjUdBEHHjNkwMcd5ZUFQmPI3o0tkooZF4yVBoQ kIlk
tangotreats
04-27-2013, 11:24 PM
A few weeks ago, Akashi San posted Akira Senju's Tetsujin 28 movie score...
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/477.html#post2323466
The score to the companion TV series is also very good, but exists online only in poor quality... so how about a nice upgrade to FLAC?
AKIRA SENJU
Tetsujin 28 Music Collection Vol. 1
Studio Orchestra
conducted by
Kouji Hito
(note - the conductor may actually be Kouji Haijima; I suspect a dodgy translation in the booklet.)
My rip from the Geneon USA licensed release. FLAC Level 8. Full booklet scans and English track titles included.
https://mega.co.nz/#!csonzbIC!ENs-8nOGY2RVq0MJA3hDcWEi-OpcIltBAeVmzHWnpOM
Since this is an American localised release of the original Japanese soundtrack (with identical contents and sound quality) the booklet is actually very useful! Tasteful art, some background on Senju, orchestra credits, song lyrics, and track titles that make sense. Enjoy!
Volume 2 is lost in the post but should turn up in a few days. As soon as it arrives, I will of course rip and upload it.
Not really much to say here... Senju is Senju. You know what you're getting - and YES, you get that same set of chord progressions again and absolutely nothing out of the ordinary... but lack of originality aside, it is excellent music... so, here goes nothing!
Oh yes, and completely unrelated to this CD, I have the following announcement to make:
I AM IN AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD MOOD!
I have a reason for this good mood. Ten points to the first person who can guess why.
Akashi San
04-27-2013, 11:56 PM
Please tell me you are happy because Tempest is getting a CD release.
:awsm:
And thanks for the Tetsujin TV OST!
tangotreats
04-27-2013, 11:59 PM
I sincerely hope you're saying that because it IS...!!
Ravoc
04-28-2013, 12:09 AM
[B][SIZE=4]Low effort translation. A couple piano albums. A mix of classical, jazz, and pop I suppose. Muramatsu seems to be a pretty good composer though I've not heard many of his works yet.
Thanks a bunch, nextday! Lovely Notes of Life is great too, but I don't know exactly how to rip the tracks from xiami.
Lovely Notes of Life ~ラヴリー・ノーツ・オブ・ライフ (
http://www.xiami.com/album/482283)
Zac2uzumaki
04-28-2013, 12:13 AM
@Akashi San yeah, is not, sorry. However, the thread is call "big orchestral 'ACTION' music. :D
So, I'm looking for some action music hehe.
@Herr Salat I'll be waiting, please don't forget. :D
Zac2uzumaki
04-28-2013, 12:19 AM
God, this first track of Magi is amazing!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wIyRjhlb9o
Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 12:31 AM
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Akashi San
04-28-2013, 12:34 AM
Tango, could you give us a hint at least? :D
tangotreats
04-28-2013, 12:34 AM
Why is nobody guessing? Can't you see I want to talk about myself??? :awsm:
Edit: Aaah, thank you! ;)
OK, hint... (o)(o)
Sirusjr
04-28-2013, 12:36 AM
Tango's dry spell ended? Finally got some?
Akashi San
04-28-2013, 12:36 AM
Did you find a lady of your life at the bar last night? ;)
tangotreats
04-28-2013, 12:40 AM
Got someone to get some with; not got some yet. ;)
But, yeah... seem to be hooking up with a sex-mad, Jerry Goldsmith, Joe Hisaishi, and Yoshihisa Hirano-adoring, Trekkie, likes-a-guy-with-a-foot-fetish geeky girl... much merriment will hopefully ensue!
I wouldn't usually rave about it on here, but you know... fuck it... Let's be happy for a change. :D
It also means I'm going to hopefully achieve the goal I set for myself last year when the missus decided to piss off... that I wouldn't be single by the time my birthday rolled around. Well, it's my Birthday on Friday (29, can you believe it) so I cut it a bit fine... but whatever...!
Sirusjr
04-28-2013, 12:43 AM
Ah, that's even better :) I'm still getting my boyfriend to appreciate film music but I'm getting there. He doesn't like golden age stuff yet but he enjoys Tempest and Space Brothers, so that is a good start. (though we are both close to giving up on the Space Brothers Anime if it doesn't get any good soon).
tangotreats
04-28-2013, 12:44 AM
It got good TONIGHT. Finally finished with that recap shit. :D
Oh, while I remember - sample track (10) from Koichiro Kameyama's new "Beast Saga" of which the first soundtrack was released a couple of days ago. Purchased with 500 yen left over from an old iTunes voucher. No money left to buy the rest... but I'm sure it'll show up sooner or later. Pretty good orchestral score, for dumbest show ever made in the history of animation.
Akashi San
04-28-2013, 12:50 AM
Good for you, tango! I hope she is physically attractive on top of that...! :angel:
I wish I could even meet a girl who is remotely interested in orchestral music...
@Zac2: I have a feeling that most of us do not appreciate that sort of music (Magi has other great orchestral tracks, however). You should really look around and see what gets posted here. Check out Michiru Oshima's Zetsuen no Tempest here (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/484.html#post2336987). It's probably not the loud action music you are looking for, but it is extremely lyrical, symphonic soundtrack full of emotion and excellent orchestration.
Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 12:50 AM
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Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 12:52 AM
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tangotreats
04-28-2013, 12:54 AM
I have massive respect for wimpel, but I think he gives this thread an unduly hard time. He's written it (and most of the participants therein) off due to the title. That quote, if I remember correctly, was explicitly running this thread down....?
Sirusjr
04-28-2013, 12:55 AM
God, this first track of Magi is amazing!!!!! Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic OST - Enfin Apparu - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wIyRjhlb9o)
I actually really like this but I don't have a lot of suggestions to give you. I still don't like how the bass is far too loud on the mix but the electric guitar is fantastic. I can give you some metal suggestions if you want to hear some music with similar style electric guitars.
Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 12:57 AM
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Akashi San
04-28-2013, 01:04 AM
I guess he didn't really bother to see for himself the kind of music that actually gets posted around here... I was actually thinking that this thread title could use a change. I for one don't mind it at all, but a renewed thread title could attract potential new members. :)
My god, this radio show... I have a bad feeling just from the way he pronounced "Yoshihisa Hirano" and the EFFING electric guitar music from Hunter x Hunter...
tangotreats
04-28-2013, 01:11 AM
I must confess, that I'm not going to listen to the interview. I have a feeling it would make me mad. The conversation is unlikely to begin with "Mr Hirano, you are without a doubt one of the finest living composers of orchestral music, with a completely unique sense of melody and harmony, and a flawless orchestration technique. You consistently compose music of consummate quality - music that functions not only as superlative film scores but as standalone concert compositions. Your work elevates even the most mundane TV show to a position of artistic greatness. Your body of work has all the hallmarks of genius, and it is my life's deepest and most sincere honour to be talking with you, sir."
And, if they don't say that... or at least some of that... then they'll be doing the guy a grave dishonour...
By the way, is anybody watching (or skimming) Majestic Prince? AAAAAAH THAT SCORE! In episode 4, particularly... Space opera the way it used to be. Watanabe works his tiny orchestra really, really hard. But bloody hell, the score is treated badly in the show... it's mixed down so low you can barely hear it sometimes...!
Zac2uzumaki
04-28-2013, 01:20 AM
Yeah, I guess i came to the wrong thread. We don't have the same taste in music. To be honest i'm not a really huge fan of orchestral music, but i did found 2-3 interested ost's here.^^
I really do appreciate the help tho, no need to bother me anymore. Have a great day guys.
Akashi San
04-28-2013, 01:25 AM
This host sounds like a mucking robot with no interest in Hirano's music whatsoever. There is 0 interaction between questions and answers. No sense of spontaneity or follow-up when Hirano drops classical composers name like Mahler, Schnittke, Chopin, etc... It also doesn't help that Mr. Hirano cannot fluently communicate the genius of his musical mind very well in English... (It still sounds like he has great insight to share, only to be hampered by the language barrier).. Andddd I'm done. There is FAR MORE profound musical discussion in his blog, which sadly is in Japanese. If any of you are interested in Hirano's lengthy dissertation on Debussy and Liszt's music, for example, I will gladly take some time here and there to translate it.
Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 01:29 AM
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jlaidler
04-28-2013, 01:30 AM
Tango I don't mind foot fetishists (not my thing personally) but if you mention tentacles I'll smack ya. Hard.
Akashi San
04-28-2013, 01:33 AM
I can confirm the greatness of Majestic Prince. In fact, I have been obsessively checking to see if the score is getting a release.
Kubota's Photo Kano's release has already been announced (June 28th)
tangotreats
04-28-2013, 01:40 AM
Tango I don't mind foot fetishists (not my thing personally) but if you mention tentacles I'll smack ya. Hard.
I'm not into tentacles, though I wish those good folk who are the best of luck... what I'm more curious about is what made you jump from feet directly to tentacles!
Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 01:41 AM
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Doublehex
04-28-2013, 01:51 AM
Oh God I'm going to get smacked real hard.
EDIT:
It's very, very easy to compose loud music. Composing quiet music of quality and character is so much more difficult. That's why the flock always gathers around the loud music.
Okay, let me go on a rant here. I've wanted to say some very mean things about this individual for a long time ever since he pissed all over us with that quote, and Mr. Salat you have provided me with the opportunity. Thank you.
In summarization: Fuck. That. Guy. With that single quote, not only did he insult the works of great composers - both contemporary and classical - that wrote "loud" music, but also each and every one of us in this thread. He came in here and belittled us because, God forbid, we were in a thread that dealt with fast paced action orchestral music. Mother of God, what artless cretins we are! He ignored the absolute years of discussion, both silly and full of depth and intelligence, about orchestral music in all it's variations. We had a huge discussion about dissonance for God's sake! A complex topic I still can't wrap my head around! And he came in here and belittled us like that!
Screw him. In the ass. I have the policy of granting someone respect until proven otherwise, to treat individuals with the best of intents until they show themselves to not be worthy of it. That man - whomever he is - has lost any respect from me for the disrespect that he showed all of us. The arrogant stance he takes in his own thread, when he demands that we not reupload music that is not even his, that he did not produce, compose, fund, or do anything worthy of note towards, is unpalatable.
I repeat: fuck that guy. If he were to come into here again, you'd be damned sure that I would tell him to apologize to us for his previous behavior. Now on the internet there are some battles that are just not worth fighting. But I think this one is.
End of rant. Moving on to discussions of higher levity.
TazerMonkey
04-28-2013, 04:18 AM
Zac2uzumaki, you blew it. I actually wanted to wait until Joel Goldsmith's date of passing (just tomorrow, actually) to tell you about Kull...and now you honky tonk psycho-man are posting (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/joel-goldsmith-kull-conqueror-flac-118207/2.html#post2337151) in TazerMonkey's thread!
I must confess that it was I who spoiled your fun, Herr Salat. The second I played his sample Kull sprung to mind, so I PMed Zac the link. My bad...
EDIT: Odd to think it's been a year already. Time really does fly.
jlaidler
04-28-2013, 06:24 AM
The thread deals mostly in anime and Japanese games. How could I not make the leap?
herbaciak
04-28-2013, 10:47 AM
I just posted score that migh interest you. Especially if you recognize the composer name - guy did "With Fire and Sword" which was posted here sometime ago.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/krzesimir-d-bski-bitwa-warszawska-1920-polish-132463/#post2337503
wimpel69
04-28-2013, 11:20 AM
I guess he didn't really bother to see for himself the kind of music that actually gets posted around here... I was actually thinking that this thread title could use a change. I for one don't mind it at all, but a renewed thread title could attract potential new members. :)
I do get a kick of out well-composed "action music", like the stuff Goldsmith did, which is both slam-bang and highly sophisticated. Today's action music, the bulk of it, is merely loud, monotonous and obnoxious. It pained me that even Paddy Doyle is now catering to the RCP crowd in his latest scores.
As for all the Japanese stuff, I do occasionally listen to the odd Gojira vs. Mecasomething score, but those I heard left me mostly underwhelmed, especially the later scores. Animes otoh leave me cold. I tried to like them, watched a few higher-grade ones in the 1990s and early 2000s, Ninja something, Metropolis I guess it was, Ghost in the Shell(?!) - Not a chance. I abhor "limited animation", and even if it got better through more advanced computer animation, those moving small mouths in otherwise frozen images still remind me of Heidi. ;) - I do enjoy some of Miyazaki's efforts (still a long way away from classic Disney) and Hisaishi's music for them, I cannot share the adulation this composer enjoys in film music circles. Even his best efforts sound much like "solid TV-level scoring" to me, nothing more.
Herr Salat
04-28-2013, 01:22 PM
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wimpel69
04-28-2013, 03:32 PM
Frankly, I find following these megathreads a bit of a drag. My own is more like a blog kind of thing, not a lot of discussion. But in a thread like this one there maybe dozens of responses per day, I just don't have the time to follow those. Also, most of the Japanese names will be unfamiliar to me anyway. I'm listening to the Higuchi score you linked now, it sounds ok. Maybe it's just me, there's still a peculiarly detached, cookie-cutter professionalism to such music (and the later post-1985 Gojira scores, made after Ifukube had retired) that sounds mechanical. I can't really put my finger on what it is that makes this music sound a tad faceless, if professionally assembled, but when I listen to an Ifukube score I can immediately recognize his style, as his strong musical personality shines through in every score of his. I would definitely recommend this composer's Sinfonia Tapkaara (if you don't it already).
The hard truth is that there is too much glorious music out there; even if you only listened to every worthy album once or twice, and did nothing else all day, every day, a lifetime would not be enough to listen to all of them. So why then bother with the routine, or worse?
As I stated repeatedly, I'm not a big fan of synthetic sounds in movie scores. Especially those that are meant to "ape" acoustic instruments - that's just pointless. The electronic movie music I can relate to and appreciate is the experimental, avantgarde kind - music that's MEANT to sound synthetic, unreal. I have a fondness for the Moog synthesizer, and I highly appreciate a score like Gil Mell�'s The Andromeda Strain that makes very effective use of its otherworldly sounds. Saying that I "love" that score would be stretching it though. To be honest, I do own a theremin myself. It's one of those Moog-built machines you hook up to a guitar amplifier. I would not be so arrogant as to pretend that I could actually produce decent sounds on it, but I know it can be done.
Likewise Louis & Bebe Barron's then-audacious score for Forbidden Planet has an artistic integrity and imagination that is completely lacking in any of those dreadful John Carpenter/Alan Howarth synth-fests. To me, the latter barely qualifies as music, much less of any desirable quality or character, yet many movie fans enjoy it because it reminds them of the moments of (admittedly tame by today's standards) suspense and terror in his films. But some of them will still claim that this is great music, because they can't intellectually differentiate between quality (as generated by imagination and channelled through musical vocabulary and grammar) and "stuff they like".
Still, if I had the power to abolish electronic music once and for all, I would do it. Acoustic instruments are so flexible, individually and collectively, that you can manipulate their sound endlessly. We don't need synthesizers. The orchestra can do it all.
Vinphonic
04-28-2013, 05:37 PM
First and foremost, I understand where you're coming from, wimpel69 and I'm not gonna debate that most japanese scores (anime or otherwise) are technically, from the music on a piece of paper to the atrocious recording environment, inferior to the classical and academic realm of music.
BUT
I love them all regardless. I've heared enough technically complex music that is praised in academic circles that bored me to death. But a few notes from a Hisaishi score connect with me almost instantly on an emotional level I simply cannot get out of supposedly superior music. It ultimatly boils down to what music is for each person. For me music is about conveying emotion, not mathematics. However, I still appreciate technical mastery. If I understand music as a language then there are also many ways to convey emotion. You can simply state "I love you" or you can write a beautiful love poem. But expressing emotion through mathematic equations just doesn't do it for me. And if you don't want to convey something and just want to show off your skill of crafting even more complex equations I care even less. I understand some people "live" for that stuff, it just isn't my cup of tea.
For me classical/romantic/film music is the pinnacle of expressing emotions and the major problem I have with "western" scores these days (not just film music) is not that the music is "loud", it's the total absence of emotion. It's all mechanical by the number scoring with the same identity almost every time. The absence of themes, motifes and counterpoint is one thing but not even melody and harmony is allowed. Film music that once was a field for talented artists writing beautiful/tragic/dramatic poems has degenerated into a field of hacks writing simple catchphrases and oneliners to please the lowest common denominator (and they are praised like they wrote fucking Hamlet or something). But enough analogy.
Point is, if it weren't for Japan I would have given up on film music a long time ago. Let me tell you this country is freaking insane in all the right places. There is still much love to be found for the music I adore so much and even today young composers emerge who write scores like it's 1977 again. Then you have prodigies like Hirano who completly smack the field with almost any composer alive. It's all very emotional music with a very distinct identity. I also love the fact that they are treating rock and synth instruments like a natural part of the orchestra. It all depends on how an instrument is used and even an e-guitar can very well be a part of the orchestra. I also will never understand the notion that japanese music sounds very mechanical and shows "cookie-cutter professionalism". Perhaps I have not trained my ear enough but if Hisaishi in Budokan is infact "typical mechanical japanese TV-level music" and not an emotional masterpiece of musical expression, then why should I even bother with classical music at all?! I'm undoubtly too much of an uneducated dumbass to appreciate it anyway...
On the topic of japanese animation, perhaps I am biased since I grew up with japanese animation as a child here in germany but I have a whole different approach to animation in general. For me still shots and moving mouths don't matter that much, I care more about the art in the background, the story, characters and the music. I think Roger Ebert said it best in his review of Hotaru no haka Film critic Roger Ebert - Grave of The Fireflies (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9WEyuMq0Yk). Japanese animation is at its best a really powerful medium to convey emotion. I would even say in some cases it's more "real" and believable than live-action because it's not an actor playing a character and the emotions feel more genuine. What I like best are the "slow and boring" shows (and movies) who take their time to build atmosphere and characters or establish interesting concepts and ideas.
On another topic, glad to hear you're in good mood again Tango, best of luck to you!
EDIT:
I haven't played the PS3 game, but I can't imagine how good it must be playing the game with good music in the foreground.
Trust me. It's bliss.
Sirusjr
04-28-2013, 10:40 PM
Fantastic comments here and while I don't agree with wimpel69, like Klnerfan I can see his perspective.
To wimpel69 - If to you Japanese composers lack individual styles that you can recognize, you haven't listened to enough Joe Hisaishi. I admit that at first I was not a huge fan of Hisaishi and it has taken me a long time to discover what everyone finds amazing with his works but damn when I did it was fantastic. I suggest you check out Cloud on a Slope and Tenchi Meisatsu for a start and see if you can appreciate the simple lyricism in the melodies he writes in both scores. Yes I know Sara Brightman is a bit of a poor vocalist and he could have done better when selecting the vocalist for Cloud on a Slope but thankfully in the second and third scores for that series he brings in other vocalists whom I can appreciate more.
I also disagree with you that there is somehow so much amazing stuff out there you could never listen to it all. The whole reason we need this thread is that sorting through the junk and finding the good music that is worth listening to is quite a chore but it is worth it every time you find that one gem that blows your mind. Intrada, bless them, release a lot of fantastic scores and a lot of mediocre scores. I still take the time to sample every single score they put out because I occasionally find a score like Those Calloways that is everything I hope to hear from in a score. When we croudsource that effort in a place like this, it cuts down on the effort needed for that and I am grateful for it.
I do agree with you though that trying to create a synth orchestra is an exercise in futility and thus usually results in subpar works. Good synth is nice in that you can tell it is synth yet it is enjoyable. When done right it can have as much of a character as the instruments we started with. Take for example the emotion in Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of synth in Opoona. He blends it with real instruments and results in a score that is largely unique and thus interesting.
I tend to agree with Klnerfan's approach to music so much that I will mostly just say I agree with his post and save the effort of repeating everything in it. Needless to say, I've heard plenty of technically brilliant Williams scores that bored me to death and at times parts of his scores to even Indiana Jones are a bit too complex for me to truly appreciate.
2egg48
04-28-2013, 11:16 PM
Did
Tytania OST (i.e. OST 2)
and
the full single
TYTANIA OP Single - Ano Sora wo, Ike
ever get uploaded in lossless? I think there was talk in this thread of this being done a couple of months ago, wasn't there?
I'm mostly interested in Ano Sora wo, Ike singles' tracks in lossless. OST 1 or Sinfonia was uploaded here by Herr Salat.
Thank you.
Edit: that's an example of something I would recommend wimpel69 to listen too as far as anime music goes Pure classical
That show was great too when I saw it a long time ago. Political
streichorchester
04-28-2013, 11:37 PM
We need synths because orchestras don't want to perform my music :(
JBarron2005
04-29-2013, 03:39 AM
We need synths because orchestras don't want to perform my music :(
I understand that completely. One of these days we composers will get our chance to work with an orchestra ;). I bet working with one is like going from dial-up internet to wireless. How in the heck would you be able to go back to synth when getting a taste of a full orchestra?
LeatherHead333
04-29-2013, 05:01 AM
This is REALLY unrelated to the current discussion but i must vent my anger as a consumer. Why are all these soundtracks released on the SAME bloody date?
ANZX-9028 | Vividred Operation Original Soundtrack Vol.1 - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38063)
LACA-9295~6 | Hataraku Maousama! Original Soundtrack - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38746)
UMCA-10019 | Zettai Bouei Leviathan Original Soundtrack "Zettai Kiite... - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38927)
LACA-9293~4 | Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet Original Soundtrack - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38745)
PCCG-01349 | Photokano Original Soundtrack - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38627)
PCCG-01351 | Attack on Titan Original Soundtrack - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38626)
To a normal person this isn't a problem but i'm so dayum obsessive about getting soundtracks the day they release this frustrates me. I understand aniplex doing this because they generally release a bunch of crap on the same date all the time. But it seems like everyone else and their mother decided that jun 26th was the holy grail of release dates. It's dumb dumb :(.
Sirusjr
04-29-2013, 06:09 AM
I might mind if I knew a lot of those composers and liked them. Though I am interested to see what Mina Kubota and Tomoki Kikuya come up with considering their past arrangement credits. I can easily pass on a Sawano album. The Iwashiro album might be interesting.
NaotaM
04-29-2013, 06:09 AM
Loving all these new posters.
wimpel69
04-29-2013, 10:55 AM
I will have a look at some more anime scores from next week.
Meanwhile, it's off to Reading for dozens of brilliantly mouldy British beers! :)
tangotreats
04-29-2013, 12:59 PM
This is REALLY unrelated to the current discussion but i must vent my anger as a consumer. Why are all these soundtracks released on the SAME bloody date?
I'm completely uninterested in every single one of those, with the possible exception of Photokano which I'm still pretty nonchalant about... but I do understand...a bunch of stuff you're interested in all turning up at the same time will burn a serious hole in your wallet!
On the upside... Six more soundtrack releases this year... can't be a bad thing... even if Titan and Gargantia are only getting releases due to their frighteningly overrated composers...
nextday
04-29-2013, 04:44 PM
This is REALLY unrelated to the current discussion but i must vent my anger as a consumer. Why are all these soundtracks released on the SAME bloody date?
The last Wednesday of the month is always a big release day. Don't ask me why.
Calendar: January 30, 2013 - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/db/calendar.php?year=2013&month=1#20130130)
Calendar: February 27, 2013 - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/db/calendar.php?year=2013&month=2#20130227)
Calendar: March 27, 2013 - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/db/calendar.php?year=2013&month=3#20130327)
Calendar: April 24, 2013 - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/db/calendar.php?year=2013&month=4#20130424)
Calendar: May 29, 2013 - VGMdb (
http://vgmdb.net/db/calendar.php?year=2013&month=5#20130529)
Sirusjr
04-29-2013, 04:55 PM
Loving all these new posters.
Yes, please don't be shy! Only by stating your opinion can you become a part of the thread. All are welcome to state opinions without being laughed at. Most of us once felt too lowly to join in the discussion at some point.
Akashi San
04-29-2013, 04:58 PM
Interestinggg. Had no idea that Hiroshi Takaki's is scoring a Precure season all by himself. So far, I have been only looking forward to Tempest Vol.2 (May 22), Tanken Driland (June 19), and Photo Kano to a lesser extent (June 28).
EDIT: Only 26 minutes of music in Vol. 2? Tell me this isn't real... :(
tangotreats
04-29-2013, 05:02 PM
It seems to be pretty typical Precure music... Nice, happy stuff... but we're not going to get a Tytania out of THIS...:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130203181531/prettycure/images/f/fa/DokiDokiPrecureArt.PNG
wimpel69
04-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Sweet mother of all that is good and pure.
tangotreats
04-29-2013, 05:37 PM
Wimpel, what are you doing in Reading? I have family up there... not exactly a tourist spot... ;)
wimpel69
04-29-2013, 05:41 PM
CAMRA Real Ale Festival (from Thursday - the second biggest after the August GBBF in London) - plus I'm visiting friends. :D
CAMRA member I am - plus a few concerts lined up in London. Had to choose between staying in Reading and going to London, or vice versa. And Reading is much cheaper, hotel-wise, plus I already got my favorite 'Spoon there. It just so happens that going from Reading into Paddington will also get me to my very favorite pub in London, The Mad Bishop and Bear at Paddington Station. Sometimes, the mere coincidences seem like pre-meditated plans ...
wimpel69
04-29-2013, 05:58 PM
Touristically, I think I've wrung even London dry. I've been down to the 101 moles preserved in a jar:

Sirusjr
04-29-2013, 06:06 PM
Ale festival? Awesome, sign me up!
Herr Salat
04-29-2013, 09:30 PM
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Vinphonic
04-29-2013, 10:20 PM
wimpel, I guess you're already familiar with Higuchi and Hisaishi, so here's a list of suggestions when you're back and find the time.
This is also a list for newcomers who are a bit overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of anime scores out there and want a quick overview of worthwile music. These are of course my favorite anime composers and scores and if you like film music in the vein of Star Wars or simply classical music in general then this is for you.
Enjoy:
Michiru Oshima / Full Metal Alchemist / Moscow International Symphonic Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULL9TSUfeiw)
Michiru Oshima / Bounen no Xamdou / Orchestre des Virtuoses de Paris (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7rZShrmIj8)
Michiru Oshima / Zetsuen no Tempest / Russian State Symphony Cinema Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7xaZGwuLZQ)
Yoko Kanno / Genesis of Aquarion / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz32ws6JHLw)
Yoko Kanno / Escaflowne / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv50DzU2l4s)
Yoko Kanno / Turn A Gundam / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Ky9AJd4_k)
Masamichi Amano / Super Atragon / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMELh7b1BSE)
Masamichi Amano / Giant Robo / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8aZFKOPMEQ)
Masamichi Amano / Princess Nine / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZvIpEYoMr8)
Toshihiko Sahashi / Gundam Seed Symphony / London Symphony Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl7JfQxDnU4)
Toshihiko Sahashi / Element Hunters / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkhENDpAkhE)
Toshihiko Sahashi / Steel Angel Kurumi / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Iv9_jBScM)
Kohei Tanaka / Sakura Wars: The Motion Picture / Tokyo Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwLFH21ODRA)
Kohei Tanaka / Bastard!! / Tokyo Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep4_yVD5WBc)
Kohei Tanaka / One Piece / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njsS7S4U9Xo)
Kousuke Yamashita / Garasu no Kantai / Kanagawa Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44EngvDNBkQ)
Kousuke Yamashita / Dragonaut: The Resonance / Kanagawa Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GiGeBZe4d4&playnext=1&list=PL1DEA81C56C4412AB)
Yoshihisa Hirano / Death Note / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUyb4yQMEXQ)
Yoshihisa Hirano / Broken Blade / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q3gtY5wHuI)
Yoshihisa Hirano / Ouran Highschool Host Club / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8FLUUOkSZ4)
Naoki Sato / Eureka Seven: Pocket of Rainbows / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhzyzGMX0jc)
Naoki Sato / Heroic Age / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQYahiVOdQ)
Akira Senju / Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QqZfvE3Fw)
Akira Senju / Red Garden / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjs75LN1c78)
Hayato Matsuo / Hellsing / Warsaw Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFZjegvE6OA)
Yuji Nomi / Nichijou / Hungarian State Symphony Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_6Q17dbCU)
Hiroshi Takaki / TYTANIA / Kanagawa Philharmonic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n15IIRr1X_g)
Souhei Kano / Fractale / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMwA0KvzZ0c)
Other composers worth checking out:
Taku Iwasaki / RUROUNI KENSHIN -Meiji Kenkaku Romantan- SEISOU-HEN / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaB43jSKLYU)
Hitoshi Sakimoto / Romeo X Juliet / Eminence Symphony Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHEOCLWJLsM)
Toshiyuki Watanabe / Space Brothers / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_9bEOu355Y)
Koh Otani / Haibane Renmei / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgQZFMG3Mg)
Yuugo Kanno / Birdy the Mighty: Decode / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F9JjdEFYjA)
Satoru Kosaki / The Dissappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya / Eminence Symphony Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACsrDhqNg80)
Mina Kubota / Kannazuki no Miku / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEbOjcfyecY)
Nanase Hikaru / Infinite Stratos / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTaX3Wk4Fi4&playnext=1&list=PL00E93257CFD2E74B)
Shiro Hamaguchi / Kiddy Grade / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tdfu4tTevg)
Kan Sawada / Doraemon / Tokyo Philharmonic
and if you are also a fan of Rock/Metal with orchestral elements then Yasuharu Takanashi (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohdxVI5_dEw) might be the right composer for you.
I'm not as familiar with japanese live-action and movies as I am with anime (not to speak of scores before the 90s) but perhaps Tango and others who are far more familiar with the subject can give some suggestions as well. Japan has a lot to offer for any music enthusiast.
Zac2uzumaki
04-30-2013, 01:21 AM
ME AGAIN!!! Can someone recommend me something similar to this: Sword of the stranger, Ihojin No Yaiba, Deai, Aganai No Yuki - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8RWeaWp1Q)
or is that too much for you guys???
I have everything from Yasuharu Takanashi if anyone is interested, but i highly doubt it.
streichorchester
04-30-2013, 02:19 AM
Souhei Kano / Fractale / Studio Orchestra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMwA0KvzZ0c)
lol, shosty!
Herr Salat
04-30-2013, 08:36 AM
From which work, streichorchester?
streichorchester
04-30-2013, 09:08 AM
Symphony No. 5 - Fourth Movement (not the first)
TheRancor
05-01-2013, 07:11 AM
Good news for those who don't want Giacchino. JJ Abrams Expects John Williams to Score ?Star Wars: Episode VII? | /Film (
http://www.slashfilm.com/jj-abrams-expects-john-williams-to-score-star-wars-episode-vii/)
tangotreats
05-01-2013, 09:44 AM
Oh... My... GOD!
Williams wants to do it...
Abrams wants him to do it.
Giacchino wants him to do it.
Could it really happen? 81 year-old John Williams, the man who saved symphonic film scoring for a generation, returns to the franchise that made him a household name, thirty five years later, to weave the same magic once again? A major sci-fi blockbuster score by John Williams, in 2014... could this be where the tables finally start to turn? A whole new generation of young fans discovering Star Wars and realising the power of a real, living, breathing score...
There are a few factors that are important, for me...
a) Williams must have full and unrestricted creative power over the score... and
b) He must return to London and again enlist the London Symphony Orchestra in Abbey Road 1.
With a) most certainly being the most important from the perspective of getting a good score... and b) as a very desirable bonus...
Herr Salat
05-01-2013, 09:55 AM
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wimpel69
05-01-2013, 04:12 PM
Oh... My... GOD!
Williams wants to do it...
Abrams wants him to do it.
Giacchino wants him to do it.
Could it really happen? 81 year-old John Williams, the man who saved symphonic film scoring for a generation, returns to the franchise that made him a household name, thirty five years later, to weave the same magic once again? A major sci-fi blockbuster score by John Williams, in 2014... could this be where the tables finally start to turn? A whole new generation of young fans discovering Star Wars and realising the power of a real, living, breathing score...
Don't hold your breath. I seriously doubt this is going to happen. Firstly, they won't be able to get a new SW movie off the ground by 2014, more likely it'll be 2015 or even 16. At which point Williams would be ... Even older. And even if he wants to return to his old franchise, I'm not so sure he'll be able to deliver anything extraordinary or truly original any more. His second trilogy of 1999ff wasn't exactly overwhelming, and it's been a long time since he created anything extraordinary. Personally, I have no reservations against Giacchino doing it. While his first ST score wasn't exactly mind blowing, but it certainly wasn't bad, and the guy has already delivered many colorful, dynamic scores. Let's just hope Hans Zimmer won't get involved.
Faleel
05-01-2013, 04:16 PM
a) Williams must have full and unrestricted creative power over the score...
Just put a gag on ben burtt and we should be fine
Sirusjr
05-01-2013, 05:02 PM
Maybe it is the lack of emotional connection I have to Star Wars but I don't really consider Williams' original trilogy scores to be all that special among his works. The scores for the prequels put me to sleep. I say bring in someone else to give it a new voice.
Faleel
05-01-2013, 05:15 PM
The scores for the prequels put me to sleep.
Strangely enough, good scores usually tend to "put" me to sleep
wimpel69
05-01-2013, 05:21 PM
Star Wars A New Hope (the original SW, I will forever be pissed about the new indexing) put symphonic music back on the Hollywood map singlehandedly, so it's an important score. Musically, it's not one of Williams's best, he had to come up with a lot of music in a very short time. The Empire Strikes Back, whole different story. Brilliant, brilliant score. The highlights are numerous: Battle in the Snow, The Asteroid Field, superb. One of the top Williams efforts.
Wimpel69, relaxing in a Southampton Yates pub, being done with sightseeing for the day.
Sirusjr
05-01-2013, 05:33 PM
Yes yes, I know the general importance of the scores and all that. I'm not disputing that part of it. I'd be happy to see good organic scores come back on the map and get rid of the bombastic heavy bass scores whether it is symphonic or closer to 60s Goldsmith (not the jazzy/funky stuff).
streichorchester
05-01-2013, 08:06 PM
Star Wars A New Hope (the original SW, I will forever be pissed about the new indexing) put symphonic music back on the Hollywood map singlehandedly, so it's an important score. Musically, it's not one of Williams's best, he had to come up with a lot of music in a very short time. The Empire Strikes Back, whole different story. Brilliant, brilliant score. The highlights are numerous: Battle in the Snow, The Asteroid Field, superb. One of the top Williams efforts.
It's really refreshing to hear someone say that, especially from a classical music fan such as yourself. I talk to way too many classical enthusiasts that speak lowly of Williams every time the subject comes up. They cite the usual "Holst this, King's Row that..." and once I mention "but Asteroid Field!!!" they're like "lalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalala...."
In Memoriam
05-01-2013, 11:04 PM
Don't hold your breath. I seriously doubt this is going to happen. Firstly, they won't be able to get a new SW movie off the ground by 2014, more likely it'll be 2015 or even 16. At which point Williams would be ... Even older. And even if he wants to return to his old franchise, I'm not so sure he'll be able to deliver anything extraordinary or truly original any more. His second trilogy of 1999ff wasn't exactly overwhelming, and it's been a long time since he created anything extraordinary. Personally, I have no reservations against Giacchino doing it. While his first ST score wasn't exactly mind blowing, but it certainly wasn't bad, and the guy has already delivered many colorful, dynamic scores. Let's just hope Hans Zimmer won't get involved.
According to this, Williams fans will get what they want.
JJ Abrams: John Williams will score new Star Wars film - Williams News (
http://www.classicfm.com/composers/williams/news/jj-abrams-john-williams-will-score-new-star-wars/)
Press conference (forward to about 7 minutes in):
Star Trek Into Darkness Press Conference Berlin, Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Zoe Saldana etc. - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J46rgq54SU&feature=player_embedded)
On a side note, I love Giacchino's work.
Edit: On a second side note, at about 10:30 Abrams says that nothing is set in stone. So nothing to see here people, move along. ;-)
TazerMonkey
05-02-2013, 12:04 AM
They cite the usual "Holst this, King's Row that..." and once I mention "but Asteroid Field!!!" they're like "lalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalala...."
The Asteroid Field rips King's Row's head off and shits down its throat.
Sirusjr
05-02-2013, 12:29 AM
In Memoriam - thanks for sharing those links.
I do appreciate everyone providing me an alternative way to approach these star wars scores. I've always felt like I need to change my approach in order to enjoy them so this is always refreshing to give something a fresh look and examine certain key cues that are especially good.
Z3120
05-02-2013, 12:58 AM
Please tell me you are happy because Tempest is getting a CD release.
:awsm:
And thanks for the Tetsujin TV OST!
I sincerely hope you're saying that because it IS...!!
May I ask where you guys found this info? Thanks in advance.
In Memoriam
05-02-2013, 01:12 AM
In Memoriam - thanks for sharing those links.
I do appreciate everyone providing me an alternative way to approach these star wars scores. I've always felt like I need to change my approach in order to enjoy them so this is always refreshing to give something a fresh look and examine certain key cues that are especially good.
You're most welcome.
I am always awed by the subtle and coherent transitions between scenes that JW manages to pull off - and this does not necessarily only apply to the SW movies.
That's why I try to listen to the isolated scores as often as I can. Even though they are sometimes obviously cut to tiny pieces in order to fit what's going on on screen, sometimes you find that the composer has found a way to accelerate/decelerate the music (for lack of a better use of vocabulary) in order to hit the mood of the next scene spot on. More often than not, I find that the JW's "complete" scores released for the Star Wars movies have less of the cut-to-shreds methodology, but actually have the transitions composed into them.
Sanico
05-02-2013, 02:04 AM
At this point i take the rumours of Williams doing more Star wars with a grain of salt. There is still a long way until something is officially announced. Though i would rejoice to hear more of JW i still have some reservations that this could really happen.
Herr Salat
05-02-2013, 10:41 AM
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JBarron2005
05-02-2013, 04:49 PM
I was just going through some of the older stuff in my collection and I came across Final Fantasy Symphonic Suite. Some people don't like it, but I really find the arrangements solid. I really love Scene I, V, and VI the best (especially the 5th scene, that intro by Hattori is phenominal and captures the spirit of Uematsu's music).
jlaidler
05-02-2013, 05:14 PM
*ahem* It's a trap.
Herr Salat
05-02-2013, 07:00 PM
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Akashi San
05-02-2013, 08:20 PM
Wow, that unidentified piece is really good. Hey streichorchester, were you able to find any information/clue?
streichorchester
05-02-2013, 08:42 PM
Herr Salat
05-02-2013, 09:44 PM
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JBarron2005
05-05-2013, 12:18 AM
No posts for 2 days? Wow. I don't believe I have ever seen this thread lurk past the tenth page. Time to fix that ;).
Lucidolph
05-05-2013, 01:07 AM
Can somone re-upload "Chinese Symphonic Pieces of Huang An-Lun" ?
Thanks :)
tangotreats
05-06-2013, 04:35 PM
*listens to Star Trek Into Darkness*
Right, I have now completely 100% officially given up on Michael Giacchino. A promising talent to start with, but fuck this shit with a rusty rake. Noisy, tasteless, themeless, simplistic shit.
Exactly what I was expecting... but still a kick in the teeth.
Doublehex
05-06-2013, 04:41 PM
Uh...
Are we talking about the same guy here? Because none of his stuff was ever noisy, tasteless, and certainly not simple. Sure he had some problems with themes but ever since John Carter he has improved on that significantly.
tangotreats
05-06-2013, 05:04 PM
Yes, the same guy; Michael Giacchino, the guy who's very best work is a) 15 years old and b) a pastiche of a superior composer's technique... who has consistently failed to live up to the expectations this early artless but aurally pleasing jumble generated.
The new Star Trek score, like the one before it, is themeless, linear, vulgar, and rooted in a lowest common denominator style that makes a cursory attempt to say "Star Trek" without straying too far away from the modern blockbuster score expectation; namely no themes, no protracted melodies, no complexity, no intelligence, no sound that is deemed "too orchestral" and a proliferation of pointlessly turgid percussion and electronica designed to distract young people from the fact that they're listening to a symphony orchestra; consequently, never exploiting the true power and harmonic colouring of a large symphony orchestra in favour of blasting loud noises and creating tension with volume and tempo rather than musically.
Never an opportunity for the score to genuinely soar; in other words occasionally Star Trek-esque wallpaper that's instantly forgettable and ultimately unremarkable.
I doubt I'll be the only person who believes this... and I'm tempted to posit that anybody with any musicological background will likely agree - if not with with every single point and detail, at least in a more general sense... ;)
Faleel
05-06-2013, 05:06 PM
is themeless,
Its not themeless, but the theme is not very good.
Doublehex
05-06-2013, 05:25 PM
themeless
How could STAR TREK be themeless if there were themes all over the place? There was the "Nero" theme, the "Enterprising Young Men" theme, the "Vulcan" theme that came into direct conflicts with the "Humanity/Spock" theme. Themeless would describe that had NO motifs for any character, idea, event or place whatsoever when we got several. Now, did he do a good job weaving them into the score? No, he didn't. But to say it was themeless is fairly incorrect.
linear
EVERY piece of music is linear. You start at the first minute until you come to the end when the musicians stop playing.
vulgar
The only thing I can come from this is that you feel that the score is too simple, that it is not nearly complex enough.
Well, I don't know. I think Giacchino's plenty complex, full of beautiful layers of music that blend wonderfully together. Does he write music to the "complexity" of Shostakovich? No, and good thing - Shostakovich's stuff is so complex that I find any emotional qualities to do it strangled beneath the weight of all the notes. If he wrote in that style I would never listen to anything by Giacchino.
Alex North and Elmer Bernstein are the same way - bore me to tears every time. Listened to dozen of scores by both and I barely get through 15 minutes. Too much of a focus on creating "complex" music rather than on music that moves you. Just like with literature you need to capture the audience's heart before you can grasp their minds.
rooted in a lowest common denominator style
Ah...no. Hans Zimmer and Ramin Djawadi are the lowest common denominator. Giacchino is rich, orchestral melodies done with a complete orchestra not done with any of the electronic BS that is thrown left and right nowadays. He can create thrilling action pieces without the hogwosh of degrading electric bits thrown on top of the music.
Tango, you say this sound was made to not appear too orchestral. How is this not orchestral? It's done with a complete orchestra! It's music done in the style of Goldsmith, Williams, Horner and Paledouris! How can you possibly get more orchestral than this? Maybe if we got all Mahler and get a 200 piece orchestra...
tangotreats
05-06-2013, 06:14 PM
I didn't say motifless, I said themeless. There are no themes in either of Giacchino's Trek scores except the Courage fanfare and theme, and those are only played in full during the end credits sequence that nobody watches. Modern film scores eschew distinctive themes in favour of "fragments of notes" that function in a vague, uncommitted way as motifs; FACT. This score is a prime example.
EVERY piece of music is linear. You start at the first minute until you come to the end when the musicians stop playing.
Really? I had absolutely no idea... Thank you from the bottom of my heart for educating me with those valuable pearls of wisdom. ;)
Seriously, now... you must know what I'm talking about. Giacchino's score is a bunch of stuff happening. It doesn't tell a story, it just applies chords and fantastically dull motifs to stuff that is happening on the screen. Occasionally, on the most peripheral, overly-simplified level possible, it makes sounds that remind you of better scores and if you concentrate really, really hard it almost feels like Star Trek... but it's not.
that it is not nearly complex enough.
You are confusing complexity with inaccessibility. Complexity can sound like the simplest, most natural thing in the world. Shostakovich was a man of very, very, VERY many notes and I agree, sometimes he can be hard work... as can North and Bernstein... but complexity is not a bad thing... and absence of complexity is absolutely not a state which one should strive to obtain.
In any case, my complexity complaints about this score are simply that; it's a boring score. There's not much going on; on the surface or under it. It's just a bunch of unimaginative sounds, mostly professional, but utterly bereft of creativity.
Giacchino is rich, orchestral melodies done with a complete orchestra not done with any of the electronic BS that is thrown left and right nowadays. He can create thrilling action pieces without the hogwosh of degrading electric bits thrown on top of the music.
Where? Show me some of these scores.
Tango, you say this sound was made to not appear too orchestral. How is this not orchestral? It's done with a complete orchestra!
Where on earth did I say this wasn't orchestral? I said that it completely failed to exploit the sound of an orchestra. Pirates of the Caribbean had a 90 piece symphony orchestra playing on it - and for all the lack of imagination, atrocious music, lacklustre arrangement, and incompetent composition it might as well have been a cheap keyboard. Nobody would've been able to tell the difference. Crap music played by a hundred people is still crap music.
You cannot seriously be telling me that Star Trek even begins to demonstrate one tenth of what a modern symphony orchestra can really do; it is the most expressive, most powerful form of expression ever devised. It can evoke the most tender love story, the most tragic atrocity, the most violent war, the greatest heroism, and darkest villainy. If it was good enough for Wagner, Mahler, Scriabin, Ravel, Rimsky-Korsakov, Holst, Vaughan Williams... Those were guys who understood what an orchestra could do... and how to make it happen.
We don't need more... we need better.
It's music done in the style of Goldsmith, Williams, Horner and Paledouris!
Sorry, but there's very little I can say to that... Even Goldsmith's biggest turds have more music in ten seconds than Giacchino's does in its entire running time...
juelz
05-06-2013, 07:40 PM
Righty ho, sorry they're late folks, but here's Giant Robo 7, Aoi Hitomi, Love Fight, and the Symphonic Suite - all FLAC, all range rips, all originally posted by Grandis - who should be getting the gratitude, not me. I am merely a messenger.
Tried to post these last night but forum seemed to be down - and the night before I fell asleep... so here goes:
Giant Robo OST 7: GO4UP : Upload everywhere ! (
http://go4up.com/dl/1aqgm7ABbJcS)
Giant Robo Kanzeban (Symphony): GO4UP : Upload everywhere ! (
http://go4up.com/dl/1WU6tCFKvYdM)
Giant Robo Aoi Hitomi: GO4UP : Upload everywhere ! (
http://go4up.com/dl/1qe8p3sVyV85)
Giant Robo Love Fight: GO4UP : Upload everywhere ! (
http://go4up.com/dl/15xv0HqGPye2)
Feel free to re-upload, transcode, whatever.
Sorry again for the long wait and enjoy. :)
Can someone please repload this four ones, please?
Thanks much!
Doublehex
05-06-2013, 07:56 PM
Seriously, now... you must know what I'm talking about. Giacchino's score is a bunch of stuff happening. It doesn't tell a story, it just applies chords and fantastically dull motifs to stuff that is happening on the screen. Occasionally, on the most peripheral, overly-simplified level possible, it makes sounds that remind you of better scores and if you concentrate really, really hard it almost feels like Star Trek... but it's not.
Obviously not, as linear is defined as a straight line , A to B. In video games it is used to describe a game that has little if any exploring elements. In story it is used to describe a narrative structure that has everything appear in the chronological format. Nolan's Momento is the exact opposite of a linear film.
I had never heard a piece of music described as linear, or as nonlinear, in this thread or any other place. So I just assumed.
However, it seems like what you are saying is that a linear soundtrack is one that does not tell a narrative alongside the film, televisions how, game, play, whatever. Okay, I can play with that.
Star Trek was just as nonlinear as anything else. Giacchino had several themes - like I said, there was the Nero theme that played prominently in several of his scenes. There is the enterprising young men theme that played at "Star Trek", ad "Enterprising Young Men". And those are just the one off the top of my head.
It doesn't remind me of any better scores...because Giacchino is not trying to emulate another composer, and rightfully so! He writes in a style that is uniquely his, and his music is easily discernible from everyone else. It's just as recognizable as anything Williams, Goldsmith, or Horner.
You are confusing complexity with inaccessibility. Complexity can sound like the simplest, most natural thing in the world. Shostakovich was a man of very, very, VERY many notes and I agree, sometimes he can be hard work... as can North and Bernstein... but complexity is not a bad thing... and absence of complexity is absolutely not a state which one should strive to obtain.
In any case, my complexity complaints about this score are simply that; it's a boring score. There's not much going on; on the surface or under it. It's just a bunch of unimaginative sounds, mostly professional, but utterly bereft of creativity.
And you are confusing my statements with an admiration for uncomplex works. I am criticizing complex works that have an absence of an emotional, human center. Those composers wrote in a style that is all very technically fine, but have no human core at the heart of them.
Or at least that's how I hear them.
Where? Show me some of these scores.
Star Trek and John Carter right off the top of my head. There's UP as well, which I recall you even had some praise for ("For once a score won the Academy Award that actually deserved it", or something along those lines).
Where on earth did I say this wasn't orchestral?
And I quote: "...no sound that is deemed "too orchestral" and a proliferation of pointlessly turgid percussion and electronica designed to distract young people from the fact that they're listening to a symphony orchestra..."
You cannot seriously be telling me that Star Trek even begins to demonstrate one tenth of what a modern symphony orchestra can really do
Of course I can! Because I find it to be good, decently complex, emotional music.
it is the most expressive, most powerful form of expression ever devised. It can evoke the most tender love story, the most tragic atrocity, the most violent war, the greatest heroism, and darkest villainy.
Every artform is capable of that feat - it is not held to just orchestral music alone.
tangotreats
05-06-2013, 08:39 PM
No further comments, your honour; my points are made.
LeatherHead333
05-06-2013, 08:49 PM
I'm sorry but is ANYONE ELSE excited for Attack on Titan's soundtrack release?
??????? Shingeki no Kyojin (EP2) - Armored Titan Scene - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCZcA6BPrCw)
Every time i watch that scene the epicness of that track sends goosebumps up my spine :3. I can't get enough of this anime right now.
Doublehex
05-06-2013, 08:54 PM
I'm sorry but is ANYONE ELSE excited for Attack on Titan's soundtrack release?
??????? Shingeki no Kyojin (EP2) - Armored Titan Scene - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCZcA6BPrCw)
Every time i watch that scene the epicness of that track sends goosebumps up my spine :3. I can't get enough of this anime right now.
Uh...
The show deserved a much better score than that. That is just...well, that's boring.
Fantastic animation though!
LeatherHead333
05-06-2013, 09:05 PM
Uh...
The show deserved a much better score than that. That is just...well, that's boring.
Fantastic animation though!
While i'll admit there was nothing particularly amazing about it the score fit the scene in just about every aspect making it's impact 20 times bigger than it was in the manga (at least in my opinion). What particularly would you want to be used for a scene like that? I think the score was just fine.
Doublehex
05-06-2013, 09:10 PM
If *I* was the composer?
For one I would put more of an emphasis on horror than on action. March of the Titans is, at its core, the downfall of humanity. It explicit shows mankind being savagely murdered chunks at a time. This is not a story about man's triumph but on his desperate, fruitless, survival.
That musical piece should have showed what every character was feeling: no possible hope for victory. That's what the music should of conveyed, instead of epic chorus, guitar strings and electronic noise.
tangotreats
05-06-2013, 09:25 PM
Ah, forget all that thoughtful shit... just pile on the epic.
I think a Giacchino score would've done better on Titan. ;)
LeatherHead333
05-06-2013, 09:30 PM
If *I* was the composer?
For one I would put more of an emphasis on horror than on action. March of the Titans is, at its core, the downfall of humanity. It explicit shows mankind being savagely murdered chunks at a time. This is not a story about man's triumph but on his desperate, fruitless, survival.
That musical piece should have showed what every character was feeling: no possible hope for victory. That's what the music should of conveyed, instead of epic chorus, guitar strings and electronic noise.
I actually felt that the score showed off the titans overwhelming power over humans in that particular scene. I could feel the despair and panic (especially the panic) while the song played and the solider yelled for them to close the gate. As for the last part of the song that had electronic noise i feel that was rather unnecessary as well and kind of downplayed what had just happened.
Course anything with an epic chorus and orchestra immediately catches my attention because i have a musical fetish for that kind of thing.
Teehee ;P
nextday
05-06-2013, 10:44 PM
Note about Titan: What you hear in the anime will be a bit different than what's on the soundtrack. For the anime they created custom versions of some of the tracks so they would fit the scenes better.
Of course this is irrelevant because everyone in this thread is going to call it shit either way.
LeatherHead333
05-06-2013, 11:08 PM
Note about Titan: What you hear in the anime will be a bit different than what's on the soundtrack. For the anime they created custom versions of some of the tracks so they would fit the scenes better.
Of course this is irrelevant because everyone in this thread is going to call it shit either way.
The hell? How often has this been a case for an anime soundtrack? Tbh it doesn't really make sense to release something that wasn't played imo >.>.
Unless it's like Tom and Jerry style in which case that would make sense because theres no way you could release the soundtrack of something that is being played throughout every episode.
nextday
05-06-2013, 11:22 PM
The hell? How often has this been a case for an anime soundtrack? Tbh it doesn't really make sense to release something that wasn't played imo >.>.
Unless it's like Tom and Jerry style in which case that would make sense because theres no way you could release the soundtrack of something that is being played throughout every episode.
I don't think it's extremely uncommon. For example, if you remember recently, Takeshi Hama said for Maoyu that if they were to include all the different versions used in the anime there would be over 100 tracks.
Anyways, he only said that the music and instruments are edited in the anime. In a recent tweet he said the music was "exaggerated as usual". The soundtrack will include the basic versions.
Sirusjr
05-07-2013, 12:10 AM
To bring the discussion back to Tango and Doublehex here for a moment, it sounds like Tango is talking about Into Darkness (STID) while Doublehex is talking about Star Trek (2009). Unless I'm mistaken the only thing available right now for STID is a few short 128kbps cues that were played on the radio. I won't try to judge the score based on that.
As to Tango's major point of lack of theme I think Iron Man 3 emphasizes this perfectly. More specifically, I think Tango is saying that he wants a theme that you hear weaved throughout the score in complex ways and numerous variations. While I don't like the orchestrations and heavy synths that take over Iron Man 3 on the album, Brian Tyler does a fantastic job in the film of making many statements of the theme at major heroic moments. To me, this was the sort of thing I missed and was looking forward to. Not only does he do this with Iron Man's theme but also with the theme for The Mandarin, that I found particularly effective.
To Tango's point of STID avoiding this, I think I can give a simple explanation of why this is so. To put it simply, when my boyfriend left Iron Man 3, he commented that he didn't really like the way the Iron Man theme was utilized so much throughout the film. To him, a main theme so utilized becomes repetitive and in some ways cheesy. Part of it may have been colored by how much I was playing Iron Man 3 for him earlier in the day before we saw the film so that he heard the theme repeated a number of times on the album itself (and me whistling it because I really find it quite catchy). He recognized that yes this theme was catchy and stuck with him but he didn't really like that feeling.
To apply this to what the studios are doing currently with film music, I think it is sufficient to say that their research indicates that a lot of film-goers respond to big themes the same way my boyfriend does. Motifs are preferred to them because they are not as obvious to the casual listener. I didn't really catch all the motifs of Star Trek the first time I saw it or even after a bunch of listens on the album. Only after watching it a few more times and actually digging into it did those motifs become apparent.
tangotreats
05-07-2013, 12:38 AM
The lunatic thing is... people don't become distracted and annoyed by recognisable themes... they get distracted and annoyed by having inappropriate stuff smashed over their heads. Nobody walked out of Superman in 1978 tutting disapprovingly and crying out "That score was so manipulative! All it was, all the way through, that damn tune! That damn stupid tune that screams out "SU-per-MAN" every single time the guy's on the screen!"
No... what happened instead? They walked out of Superman thinking they'd just seen a fantastic movie and whistling that score absent-mindedly to themselves the whole way home.
In Superman, Williams gives you the big theme in the Main Titles and then... do you know how much more score there is before you hear it again? You'd be surprised. 46 minutes of music, and only vague hints of the Superman theme... then he plays it for about thirty seconds straight in the Helicopter Sequence; we understand it is the hero theme and we feel good when we hear it because unresolved musical threads are resolved; average Joe won't hear it but he will feel it... 8 more minutes of music, then we get an expansion of the love theme... we get more, we get deeper, we now understand the music we heard way back in the main titles... And then we don't hear the theme again until the end credits! Just little fragments here and there. Restraint, subtlety, mastery.
Tyler's Iron Man stood out for me and it did annoy me... because, like Star Trek, the theme isn't a theme... it's a motif. A simple motif. That is repeated again and again and again. The great composers (Williams) know that a theme you're going to re-use a lot in one film had to be versatile and multi-faceted; so your theme doesn't wear out its welcome, you can hint at it... play the rhythm... play a couple of notes here and there... you quote your theme here and there, you feed it a little bit at a time... you take some facet of it and extrapolate it into a love theme... you take another facet and extrapolate it into a heroic theme... etc, etc, etc. You get it in people's subconscious and then when the time is right, when the preceeding music has earned the right to play that big theme, you PLAY YOUR BIG THEME... and the audience don't feel manipulated...
Music is like foreplay and sex; certain gestures, certain statements, are inappropriate if you bring them out at the wrong time. You have to be patient, and be aware of your surroundings. You do this, and you do that, and that shapes the mood enabling you to do A, B, and C... then, perhaps you can get away with D, E, and F. When you've got your mood right and your technique is sound, you can do pretty much whatever you want, and the response you receive will be absolutely positive. Try those things right off the bat, or at the wrong time, or you pitch it wrong - too much, too little, too soon, too late... the moment isn't right any more, and you piss somebody off - perhaps you just irritate the a little, perhaps you annoy them, perhaps you make them incandescently angry.
Yes, audiences were trained differently then, but the music was better then. People were more open to what is disparagingly termed "melodramatic" or "manipulative" music and film... probably because it was done with some degree of skill.
So, yeah... your boyfriend didn't dislike Tyler's "old-school" approach to Iron Man because there was a recurring theme there... I'm willing to bet he disliked it because it felt conspicuous and out of place. A crappy, not-really-a-theme, used like a sledgehammer with no subtlety other than to slap the audience in the face with "LISTEN TO MY COOL IRON MAN THEME! LOOK HERE IT IS AGAIN! LOOK, NOW IT'S LOUDER! NOW IT HAS GUITARS! NOW IT HAS EPIC CHORUS! NOW IT HAS DRUMS AND ELECTRONIC TICKING NOISES AND FARTING NOISES! NOW IT'S PLAYING EVEN FASTER!"
And yes - I have sex on the brain. So shoot me. It's an excellent analogy regardless. ;)
JBarron2005
05-07-2013, 01:00 AM
I actually enjoyed Into Darkness so far. Yeah the main theme isn't a Goldsmith masterpiece, but it is still flighty and mystical. My one major complaint with what I have heard is that it doesn't have that grandiose sound that Goldsmith and even Horner evoked in the previous entries. I know Giacchino is capable to produce that quality, but from what I have heard he hasn't. That isn't to say that the rest of the score is bad as I believe it hasn't been released yet. The discussion so far has been very interesting.
Herr Salat
05-07-2013, 02:05 AM
JBarron2005
05-07-2013, 06:32 PM
I find his videos very informative and invaluable. Didn't know he scored softcore porn... Just like Family Guy taught me that John Williams won an award for porn music :P.
Herr Salat
05-07-2013, 10:04 PM
Here's a fun compilation of some of the classical pieces I've posted before and others:
Frederick Delius - Sleigh Ride
Aaron Copland - Our Town (Suite For Orchestra)
Erich Wolfgang Korngold - M�rchenbilder Op.3 Seven Fairy Tale Pictures: II. The Princess on the Pea
Nikolai Myaskovsky - Symphony No. 24: II. Molto Sostenuto
Claude Debussy - Danse (Tarantelle Styrienne)
Claude Debussy - Pr�ludes, Book 1: No. 8: La fille aux cheveux de lin
Giacomo Puccini - Le Villi (The Willis), Act II: La Tregenda (Witches' Dance)
Victor Young - Bright Leaf: Sonia
Juli�n Orb�n - Symphonic Dances (Danzas Sinfonicas): Gregoriana
Gavriil Popov - Symphony No. 2 "Rodina" (The Homeland): II. Presto Giocoso
Mieczysław Weinberg - Sinfonietta No. 1: I. Allegro Risoluto
Ralph Vaughan Williams - Songs of Travel: No. 1. The Vagabond
Jean Sibelius - The Tempest Suite Nos. 1 and 2, Op. 109, Nos. 2, 3: Suite No. 2: VII. Miranda
Gustav Holst - A Somerset Rhapsody, Op. 21, No. 2
Ralph Vaughan Williams - The Pilgrim's Progress: Act III Scene 1: I buy the truth!
Claude Champagne - Danse Villageoise (Allegro)
Michael Hersch - Symphony No. 2: I. Prestissimo
Howard Hanson - Serenade
Christopher Norton - Oriental Flower
C�sar Franck - Violin Sonata: IV. Allegretto Poco Mosso
Georgy Sviridov - Singing Winter
Dmitri Shostakovich - The Gadfly, Op97 - 20. The Austrians
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Herr Salat
05-07-2013, 11:58 PM
YŌKO KANNO
NOBUNAGA'S AMBITION
Chronicles of Heaven
The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra
conducted by Jacek Rogala
APE + CUE + SCANS | 13 Tracks | 00:44:10 | 207 MB
Release Date: 19.12.1994
Published by: KOEI (distributed by PolyGram)
Catalog Number: KECH-1077
01. The Hawk of Turbulent Times
02. Distant Fields
03. Crescent Moon on the Lake
04. Summer Squall
05. Spring Waves
06. Supreme Ruler Suite -Warsaw Edition-
07. The Cloudy Road
08. Wind Orchid
09. Flowery Wind
10. Encampment Under the Moonlight
11. Shining Battlefield
12. Yonder Dreams
13. Distant Blue
Concert Master: Ewa Marczyk
Solo Cello: Hajime Mizoguchi (3, 9)
Track 3. "Distant Blue"
Vocals & Lyrics by Akino Arai
Guitar, Mandolin, Bongo: Koichiro Tashiro
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/935) / Playlist (Xiami) (
http://www.xiami.com/song/play?ids=/song/playlist/id/1769202810%2C1769202811%2C1769202812%2C1769202813% 2C1769202814%2C1769202815%2C1769202816%2C176920281 7%2C1769202818%2C1769202819%2C1769202820%2C1769202 821%2C1769202822/object_name/default/object_id/0)
Source: f91/yoko-kanno-music-collection-44707/30.html#post2263735 (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/yoko-kanno-music-collection-44707/30.html#post2263735) (Thanks to the original Chinese uploader, and Akashi San!!) / *Scans from VGMdb (Thanks to Myrkul, and realnabarl!!)
I splitted the original APE image and converted it to FLAC and MP3 -V0. These files now have English tags. You can download the original APE image provided by Akashi San, though, if you want to.
streichorchester (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/9.html#post1138374):
Analysis 1 (PDF) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/tyWJWH (
http://www.adrive.com/public/tyWJWH/)
Analysis 2 (DOC) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/aShrnv
�Track 1 - The Hawk of Turbulent Times:
Prokofiev has his fingerprints all over Kanno's discography, and it seems with this soundtrack that his influence has been consistently strong. Though the opening 24 seconds resembles what one might hear in an NHK Taiga drama complete with a piccolo imitating a shakuhachi, the piece shifts to a steady ostinato with a Prokofiev-ian melody punctuated by stabs in the orchestra. Then suddenly the time signature shifts to a triple metre and the harmonies become more Ravel-like and flowing like waves. At 1:25 the piece recaps the Prokofiev-ian melody with typical Prokofiev-ian "wandering violin" accompaniment (see Alexander Nevsky) followed by descending chords bringing to mind the Symphony No. 5, and finally one of Kanno's first uses of the brass cluster.
Track 5 - Spring Waves:
There isn't really much to say about this one except it is so obviously modeled on Prokofiev's pop hit Dance of the Knights from Romeo and Juliet that you wonder if either orchestra that's performed/recorded this asked any questions. Anyway, the melody is actually pretty original and somewhat clever if you consider how natural it sounds. The middle section (or is this a bridge?) seems kind of out of place harmonically as it can't decide if it's still menacing or an uplifting choral. The recap is in A minor instead of the opening D minor, and watch out for that deceptive cadence.
Track 6 - Supreme Ruler Suite:
I don't know how the music to this series fits together, but I think this piece is actually from a previous entry Kanno scored and Tenshouki is probably the sequel? This piece harkens back to the NHK drama sound that actually sound un-Kanno-ish and more like the kind of music you hear in Ys or even Dragon Quest. Like a lot of typical orchestral music from Japan it's melancholic and uses a lot of block harmonies and parallel 4ths. At 0:54 the rising motif rings of Ralph Vaughan Williams's Sea Symphony (as there seems to be a recurring theme of sea-faring ships on the waves.) Some signature moves from Kanno here includes the circle of fifths at 2:41 and the Wagner parody at 3:00 (see Ride of the Valkyries.) The counterpoint following that is very concise. The ending is typical of Kanno, first using quick brass chords in a dissonant major 7th from the bass, then ending with bell tones she will employ again in Brain Powerd and Macross Frontier.
Track 11 - Shining Battlefield:
If this piece reminds you of one composer, it would have to be Aaron Copland and his famous Appalachian Spring. If this piece reminds you of two composers, the second would be John Williams and his string/wind flourishes he (borrowed from Howard Hanson's Symphony No. 2) used in E.T. The Extra Terrestrial. This kind of piece is typical of Kanno: first starting off with an off-kilter and bouncy theme that is slightly modal, and it is carried forth into an ostinato where a more chordal foundation can be laid. You get the feeling that this might have been something Williams wrote for the Olympic Games or NBC News. Is it just really well written in Williams's style?�
DOWNLOAD
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!2FwCRZKD!Un_4uWnckdER5Emt-4mT1SdMBcRl0Ee0P_76TY7Y-R4
FLAC (ADrive) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/UkGgAA
MP3 LAME 3.99.5 (ADrive) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/M45pQJ
hater
05-08-2013, 02:38 AM
No further comments, your honour; my points are made.
as i expected Chad Seiters Star Trek The Video Score is everything Giacchinos Scores for The First Two Movies should have been.It evolved the Theme, brought in several very catchy motives, the orchestrations are superb and the action is simply breathtaking at times like in good ol 90s or even 80s.Get the gamerip the moment it surfaces.Its almost 2 hours and not much that can be left out.Simply the best score Team Giacchino has ever done.Best Actionscore of this decade.God i wish they would give it an official release which is not the plan unfortunately.Its the most exciting Star Trek score since Best of Both Worlds, but much bigger and better.
You thought it could spawn a handfull of ok tracks.You were wrong.This whole thing is an highlight.And not only by todays standards.
I cannot wait for Chads next Videogame Project.
Thats what you get if dont have producers and directors breathing down your neck.
Herr Salat
05-08-2013, 07:57 AM
FLAC, range rip, originally posted by Grandis - who should be getting the gratitude, not me. I am merely a messenger.
Tried to post these last night but forum seemed to be down - and the night before I fell asleep... so here goes:
GIANT ROBO Kanzenban (Symphony)
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38855)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!cVU32YLC!V-NmxUO5CtljPEcLvnkS8mig24paMqQ5T9UuEICPcO8
MP3 LAME 3.99.5 -V0 (ADrive) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/y5Tvey
Feel free to re-upload, transcode, whatever.
Sorry again for the long wait and enjoy. :)
I find the "symphonic suite" album of the first episode's score to be a more enjoyable and satisfying listen. Those other symphonic suite albums require far more effort than just throwing all the cues onto a disc in chronological order and calling it a definitive presentation of the music (Certainly a fresh recording would be welcome, which would allow for perhaps greater tweaking of the score), but I think it's interesting as a reconceptualization of Amano's exceptional scores for "Giant Robo" into a concert work. Frankly, it's something I wish a lot more film composers would do...
tangotreats
05-08-2013, 01:00 PM
everything Giacchinos Scores for The First Two Movies should have been...as i expected Chad Seiters Star Trek The Video Score is everything Giacchinos Scores for The First Two Movies should have been... the orchestrations are superb and the action is simply breathtaking at times like in good ol 90s or even 80s...Simply the best score Team Giacchino has ever done.Best Actionscore of this decade. Its the most exciting Star Trek score since Best of Both Worlds... This whole thing is an highlight.
I'm not holding my breath, having generally disliked the samples and the score I've listened to in Gameplay videos; it seems to be an improvement on Giacchino's score (not a difficult feat to achieve, however, even for an inexperienced composer with a fairly narrow range like Seiter) but most of it is sending me to sleep. A handful of highlights, but a typical themeless modern score that makes its mark with volume, tempo, and percussion instead of with music. Nonetheless, it's an improvement on what I expected.
With the greatest respect, you jump on every score that shows even the vaguest hint of promise and promote it as the most amazing thing ever... and so it's often hard for me to reconcile the (frequently bland and unremarkable) music with your passionate enthusiasm. When you say it's the best Star Trek score in almost twenty-five years, the whole thing's a highlight, it's an instant return to classic scoring techniques, it stands up even when judged against the standards of the 1980s, etc... I wish, I really do so badly wish that it were true... but it's not.
Seiter's Star Trek sucks when compared to any classic action score. It stands up better when compared to its modern contemporaries, and will undoubtedly outshine its movie score companion... but that's about it.
Herr Salat
05-08-2013, 08:06 PM
Gabriel Faur�: Orchestral Works
FLAC|CUE|LOG|15 TRACKS~72:23
NOT MY RIP

Album Information (
http://www.chandos.net/details06.asp?CNumber=CHAN%209416)
As a former aspiring pianist, I have absolutely adored the music of Chopin, Debussy, and Faur� for their color, lightness, and transparency. Such qualities still shone in Faur�'s spare orchestral effort. This album, combined with my previous post of Pell�as et M�lisande (
Thread 129415) comprise a decent portion of Faur�'s orchestral output (add his requiem and you would have more than half). His orchestration is lean, efficient, and adds depth to his incredibly expressive music that follows both the German and French traditions. I highly recommend his piano quartet and quintet for those who enjoy this. And bless Chandos for making digital booklets available online for free. :)
"More profound than Saint-Sa�ns, more varied than Lalo, more spontaneous than d'Indy, more classic than Debussy, Gabriel Faur� is the master par excellence of French music, the perfect mirror of our musical genius"
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Herr Salat
05-08-2013, 10:45 PM
Nice, so here it is, finally:
Chiritotechin

(1424x1424 Cover available at
http://geocities.yahoo.co.jp/gl/pikaline_express/comment/20080302/1204457761)
DOWNLOAD
https://mega.co.nz/#!yoJGSCyT!MHcnoUlfgLbtMgdnBO_lQUoeZpMA-lzUrAT5tjnoHmg
MP3 / 320kbps / 35 Tracks / 70min
One of my absolute favorites from him, very thematic with wonderful mandolin pieces and an excellent reprise of the Main Theme at the end. It comes highly recommended.
Akashi San
05-08-2013, 11:30 PM
You are just too awesome, Herr Salat. Million thanks to you and klnerfan!
hater
05-09-2013, 01:43 AM
I'm not holding my breath, having generally disliked the samples and the score I've listened to in Gameplay videos; it seems to be an improvement on Giacchino's score (not a difficult feat to achieve, however, even for an inexperienced composer with a fairly narrow range like Seiter) but most of it is sending me to sleep. A handful of highlights, but a typical themeless modern score that makes its mark with volume, tempo, and percussion instead of with music. Nonetheless, it's an improvement on what I expected.
With the greatest respect, you jump on every score that shows even the vaguest hint of promise and promote it as the most amazing thing ever... and so it's often hard for me to reconcile the (frequently bland and unremarkable) music with your passionate enthusiasm. When you say it's the best Star Trek score in almost twenty-five years, the whole thing's a highlight, it's an instant return to classic scoring techniques, it stands up even when judged against the standards of the 1980s, etc... I wish, I really do so badly wish that it were true... but it's not.
Seiter's Star Trek sucks when compared to any classic action score. It stands up better when compared to its modern contemporaries, and will undoubtedly outshine its movie score companion... but that's about it.
thank god the day has finally come when you are wrong.there were many times when i was overenthusiastic about some things that i dont even remember.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
I dont even think you�ve heard it.
Making an opinion based on clips and gameplayvideos doesnt count at all.
Doublehex
05-09-2013, 01:52 AM
If you are going to insult Tango, at least do it with proper English.
Well, actually, you shouldn't insult anyone at all just for not liking something you like, but still.
Herr Salat
05-09-2013, 01:53 AM
MASAMICZ AMANO
GIANT ROBO: THE ANIMATION
The Day The Earth Stood Still
The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra
conducted by the composer
Featuring: Dies Irae, Una furtiva lagrima (Gaetano Donizetti)
I: The Black Attache Case
FLAC | 19 Tracks | 00:45:51 | 227 MB
Release Date: 2001-10-24 (Re-Issue)
Record Label: Tokuma Japan Communications
Catalog No.: TKCA-72240
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38857)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!w8En2ZiI!aOol2Xr6ex1QdiVBc1FsPSnO0ap4TOUAM0oETG7 7POQ
MP3 -V0 (ADrive) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/9DWVWh
1. Main Title
2. The House of Deception
3. Train Chase! Whereabouts of the Black Attach� Case
4. Charge! His Name is Giant Robo!
5. The Plot of the BF Clan
6. Tragedy Occurs Again... (after Gregorian Chant, Dies Irae)
7. The Development of the Shizuma Drives ~The Incident Starts Here~
8. The Storing of G ~From the Theme of the International Police Organization~
9. The Scenery from on High
10. Tetsugyu in Love
11. Sorrows in China (after Gregorian Chant, Dies Irae)
12. The Tragedy of Bashtarlle ~L'Elisir d'Amore: Una Furtiva Lagrima (Donizetti)~ [Tenor: ?]
13. A Great Fissure ~ A Tumult! Alberto Attacks
14. Twilight in Beijing
15. Escape
16. Explosive! Rocket-Fist Counterattack
17. Manifestation of Uranus
18. Robo Releases Autoguard!
19. Preview of the Next Episode
II: The Tragedy Of Bashtarle
FLAC | 15 Tracks | 00:45:51 | 202 MB
Release Date: 2001-10-24 (Re-Issue)
Record Label: Tokuma Japan Communications
Catalog No.: TKCA-72241
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/41614)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!E9UgBJxL!eEiHFQQeQbusQ6hBSHg06CohQbRMdSenrIzFrwD rFRE
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382)) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jxg42u2zytz
1. Main Title
2. Rush! Issei & Youshi
3. Giant Robo in a Severe Fight
4. Giant Robo Through an Accident
5. Secret of Shizuma Drive
6. Bashtarlle's Recollection
7. Dr. Shizuma's Compensation
8. The Darkness Covering Beijing Sky ~ The Human Generator Taisou
9. Infiltration� Big Fire
10. The Black Ball, Vogler
11. The Day Earth Stood Still
12. Inversion! Giant Robo vs. Uranus
13. Conversation Under the Water
14. Shizuma's Will ~ Daisaku's Determination
15. Episode 2 Ending
III: The Fall In Shanghai
FLAC | 15 Tracks | 00:49:26 | 237 MB
Release Date: 1995-11-21
Record Label: Nippon Columbia
Catalog No.: COCC-11290
Album Information (VGMdB) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/41608)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!gpUhTSrb!DcYOEFvKiwFUmK4vCuK3zwCPoS1kRSVpVW2THmm F0H0
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382)) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ijylzqzjly0
1. Opening Theme
2. Peking Kichi e no Kikan
3. Shizuma Hakase yo Eien ni
4. Vogler no Moui
5. Haikyo no Paris -Alberto to Ivan-
6. Shutsugeki Meirei
7. Giant Robo no Theme (Kanashimi)
8. Daisaku no Theme
9. Hatsurei! Denji Net-Wire Sakusen
10. Vogler no Jouriku
11. Ware Geigeki ni Seikou Seri!!
12. Uranus no Shutsugen
13. Kyojin Gekitou!! (GR vs Uranus)
14. Shanghai ni Otsu
15. Ending Theme
IV: The Twilight Of Superheroes
FLAC | 13 Tracks | 00:41:29 | 214 MB
Release Date: 1996-01-20
Record Label: Nippon Columbia
Catalog No.: COCC-11447
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/41609)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!hk9iwDAa!QCzH-W8oyxlSyAzEsoFoiXVY9CxNZGE6DucEgciRQZQ
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382)) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3i1zmbzwt2y
1. String Quartet - The Great Dusk
2. Taisou to Youshi
3. Girder Mountain Overnight Experiment Room
4. Battle Of The Underground Road
5. Genya's Ambition (Big Fire's Theme)
6. Requiem
7. Men's Heated Battle (Alberto's Theme)
8. Supress Manhood!! Experts Battle Above
9. GR's Revival
10. Gin Rei's Theme
11. Tragedy Of Bashtarlle ~ The Greta Garbo
12. Ending Theme
13. Daisaku's Theme (Inform The Kid)
V: The Truth Of Bashtarle
FLAC | 15 Tracks | 00:48:28 | 247 MB
Release Date: 1994-10-01
Record Label: Nippon Columbia
Catalog No.: COCC-11982
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/41610)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!pg8zmCqI!UCKqNXvwGJjot3p49mYO1BJg81cbIArIkVw0a85 e8zs
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382)) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/lmtnmm0emji
1. Yukiyama no Greta Garbo
2. Genya no Senkoku
3. Chichi no Tamashii, Soshite Unmei no Hi
4. G.R. Hatsudousu!! -G.R. 1-Gou VS G.R. 2-Gou-
5. GinRei to Tetsugyuu
6. Himalaya no Expert
7. Taiketsu / Suspense
8. Emmanuel to Falmelle
9. Tetsugyuu no Ketsui
10. Eikou no Kagakushatachi
11. Shinjitsu no Bashtarlle
12. Hitoshirenu Namida
13. Yukiyama no Tatakai
14. Chichi no Ai
15. Ending Theme / Big Fire no Theme
VI: Crime And Punishment
FLAC | 15 Tracks | 00:44:58 | 212 MB
Release Date: 1997-07-21
Record Label: Nippon Columbia
Catalog No.: COCC-12716
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/41611)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!AolTQBrS!Wxt90F_zyt_ESmTZ_eD9WXDNg9EMlEwZ1n3OcII o8-k
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382)) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mfnxdtmmmjw
1. Jukketsushuu VS Genya
2. Alberto no Message
3. Robo Fuuin
4. Hitoshirenu Namida
5. Ashita e no Kibou
6. Genya no Ikari
7. Jukketsushuu Shutsugekise yo!
8. Big Fire no Shutsugen
9. Tsuioku
10. Unmei no Saint Abbey
11. Souzetsu! Ryouzanpaku Expert Ikusa
12. Daisaku no Ketsui
13. Daisaku Ayaushi!
14. Ending Theme
VII: The Grand Finale
FLAC | 17 Tracks | 00:53:05 | 295 MB
Release Date: 1997-12-22
Record Label: Toshiba EMI / Futureland
Catalog No.: TYCY-5584
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/41612)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!NZEAiSJB!HhpVchM-tISkMK4XiwtCHim8hlUU59hz6d_6T5a9--A
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382)) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kmmgmm1jwqm
1. Daidanen e no Prelude
2. Ryouzanpaku no Shutsugen ~ Soshite, GinRei no Ketsui
3. Go Gakujin no Sakebi
4. Shisen ~ Saraba Murasame Kenji
5. Hametsu e no Makuake
6. Saint Abbey! Main Roshin Shidou!
7. Shizuma Drive 10 Nenme no Kessan
8. Hanzui no Giwaku
9. Hangeki no Toki ~ Daisaku no Ketsui
10. Shijou Saidai no Kessen ~ Abbey Kurenai ni Somaru Toki
11. Yuujou no Shougekiha ~ Robo Soukougeki
12. Emmanuel to Falmelle
13. Shizuma Saigo no Bousou
14. GR Keikaku
15. Mirai e no Kibou
16. Big Fire no Kakusei
17. Tatakai wa Tsudzuku (Ending)
Symphonic Suite "Giant Robo I"
FLAC | 9 Tracks | 00:42:48 | 212 MB
Release Date: 2001-10-24 (Re-Issue)
Record Label: Tokuma Japan Communications
Catalog No.: TKCA-72242
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38855)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!cVU32YLC!V-NmxUO5CtljPEcLvnkS8mig24paMqQ5T9UuEICPcO8
ADrive (MP3 -V0) -
http://www.adrive.com/public/y5Tvey
1. Jokyoku
2. Higeki wa Futatabi ('Dies Irae' Yori)
3. Train Chase
4. Giant Robo
5. Kokusai Keisatsu Kikou
6. BF-dan
7. Uranus no Shutsugen
8. Alberto no Shuugeki
9. Taisou no Gyakushuu
Barefoot GinRei + Mighty GinRei
FLAC | 30 Tracks | 00:57:31 | 298 MB
Release Date: 1995-04-21
Record Label: Nippon Columbia
Catalog No.: COCC-12443
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!YBMnBCZZ!JGQajCLaBzqNdM5bkKbSyigruA1SPr3a0glFOo8 qESQ
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382).) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/znk1zmcjjtm
1. LOVE FIGHT
2. Good Morning GinRei
3. Alberto to Ivan no Takurami
4. Alberto no Theme
5. GinRei Spy Daisakusen
6. Kuro GinRei no Toujou
7. GinRei no Theme
8. Ikken Rakuchaku
9. GinRei no March
10. Saraba Kokusai Keibi Kikou
11. Shutsugeki
12. Daisaku no Tegami
13. Requiem
14. Vogler no Shutsugen
15. Daisaku no March
16. Mou Hitotsu no G-R
17. Blue Flower no Mambo
18. BF-dan Danin Boshuu Koukoku (Vivaldi)
19. Carmen ni Kanpai (Bizet)
20. Zenin China Wakuran Sakusen
21. Nageki no GinRei
22. Gekkou (Beethoven)
23. GinRei to Ivan (Donizetti)
24. Toilet no Beethoven (Denen ni Shisu)
25. Kichi e no Sennyuu
26. JINTETSU no Toujou
27. Special Beauty Megastrom Gattai
28. Alberto no Theme (A Capella)
29. Flying Phoenix
30. LOVE FIGHT (Karaoke)
Track 1 is performed by Sumi Shimamoto
Track 28 is performed by Yousuke Akimoto
& Yasuyoshi Hara\
GinRei with Blue Eyes
FLAC | 22 Tracks | 00:46:21 | 216 MB
Release Date: 1997-12-22
Record Label: Toshiba EMI / Futureland
Catalog No.: TYCY-5594
Album Information (VGMdb) (
http://vgmdb.net/album/38856)
FLAC (Mega) -
https://mega.co.nz/#!MB1h1T5b!Izx6TmEj-9-KxODrRyUKxCXyVM0EdR5whlVASwtdMVs
MP3 -V0 (MediaFire, still working link from Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382).) -
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zhdmmyzoci2
1. Sabaku no Densetsu
2. Kouya no Ikkenya
3. Yuujou no Juudan
4. Saraba Tomo yo
5. Outotsu Konbi Toujou
6. Fedayeen no Kunou
7. GinRei of Arabia
8. PEEPING Tetsugyuu
9. Bojou
10. Sabaku no Kougun
11. Karei Naru Henshin
12. Iseki
13. Kairiki Otokotachi no Tatakai
14. GinRei no Hangeki
15. Yuujou Aru Settoku
16. Ano Yama ni Nobore / Aoi Hitomi no GinRei
17. Mishiyou Kyoku 1
18. Mishiyou Kyoku 2
19. Mishiyou Kyoku 3
20. Demo Kyoku 1
21. Demo Kyoku 2
22. Demo Kyoku 3
Thanks to Grandis (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/157.html#post1388382) and Sirusjr (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f91/lossless-anime-music-thread-66456/4.html#post1303616)! Thanks to Sirusjr (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/426.html#post2190899) and tangotreats (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/428.html#post2192386) for re-uploading! Thanks to NorikoTakaya for splitting all of the images, tagging them appropriately and putting it up on BakaBT (
http://bakabt.me/168446-giant-robo-music-collection-flac.html)! Thanks to Doublehex for the custom covers (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/big-orchestral-action-music-thread-57893/427.html#post2191015)!
Akashi San
05-09-2013, 01:58 AM
Ralph Vaughan Williams: A Sea Symphony
FLAC|CUE|LOG|4 TRACKS~61:08
Not My Rip
Performed by Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and Chorus
Conducted by Robert Spano
Classics Today Review: Telarc’s new recording of Vaughan Williams’ A Sea Symphony reaches a level of sonic amplitude that nearly mirrors that of the ocean itself. A mighty surge of sound rushes forth from your speakers immediately following the opening brass fanfare, with chorus and orchestra in fully sonorous splendor. Even with all that, you can distinctly hear every word of Walt Whitman’s text thanks to the Atlanta Symphony Chorus’ fabled clarity of diction. Robert Spano leads a fresh and vibrant reading, with continuously flowing tempos and keen phrasing–both of which serve him well as he deftly navigates the work’s more placid passages.
The Atlanta Symphony Orchestra clearly relishes Vaughan Williams’ score and responds with heartfelt enthusiasm and virtuosity. Spano’s choice of soloists is near-ideal, with Christine Goerke’s stirring siren call in the first movement and, in the long finale, Brett Polegato’s rich baritone that suggests the sea’s profound depths. Boult’s EMI recording, with its heady, mystical atmosphere and its still-superb sound, retains its classic status. But Telarc has given us a Sea Symphony for the new century, as fine a performance as we could ask for with the best choral singing ever. Make sure you’re wearing a life jacket when you play this one!
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j415/wimpel69/p10s10.gif
Download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!BUZlEZga!VPkNPlneY0ZXxigGH9atGyEhRG4g6oxXfXWw_Ub gsZ4
JBarron2005
05-09-2013, 02:09 AM
Well as if I thought the music of Man of Steel just couldn't get any better... here is a preview. That was heavily laden with sarcasm, by the way ;).
https://soundcloud.com/watertowermusic/man-of-steel-soundtrack
I for one think this is an emotionally devoid "score" that isn't even worth a download. What do you, my peers, think?
hater
05-09-2013, 02:17 AM
If you are going to insult Tango, at least do it with proper English.
Well, actually, you shouldn't insult anyone at all just for not liking something you like, but still.
i�m not insulting anyone but his description of the score is simply not correct.it was kinda correct for into darkness but the videogame score is a different beast.its like Call of Duty Finest Hour plus Fracture with very well intergrated connections to the movie score and zero modern elements.And the orchestrations are gorgeous.also no needless choir.I know a lot of people that really love the score, especially the goldsmith fans among them.and most of you will, too.I feel sorry for Tango if he can�t enjoy it.Your missing out buddy.This is the one.
Btw the Game sucks.
tangotreats
05-09-2013, 02:17 AM
thank god the day has finally come when you are wrong.there were many times when i was overenthusiastic about some things that i dont even remember.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
I dont even think you�ve heard it.
Making an opinion based on clips and gameplayvideos doesnt count at all.
Why does your opinion override mine, when mine is backed up with considered opinion, intelligent comparison, and musical acumen... and yours is backed up with a series of typically exaggerated, spurious claims and rounded neatly off with "You're wrong because you're wrong"?
If there's any other way of hearing the score other than in either playing the game or watching somebody else play the game please do let me know...
If watching Gameplay videos doesn't count, what does? Somewhere, you're hearing different music to the anaemic trash I'm hearing. I've watched several hours of Gameplay (against my better judgement) and have found myself genuinely impressed by probably thirty seconds to a minute of music. This is not a good batting average. It's a fairly safe bet, I think, to say that the rest of the score is up to that same calibre (or lack thereof)... considerably less logical than what you seem to be implying; that due to my stupidity in forming an opinion before digesting the whole score, I should shut my face. ;)
Again, it's surprisingly well orchestrated and it's an improvement on the movie scores... and it has its moments... but will I throw away Total Recall, Superman, Starship Troopers, Star Trek First Contact / Insurrection / Nemesis, or Star Wars in order to make space for this piece of junk...?
Doublehex
05-09-2013, 02:22 AM
Oh please don't shut your face Tango. I am rather enjoying your intelligent display of logic trumping over...well, whataver hater was saying. Terribly difficult to read his posts.
http://cdn.styleforum.net/3/34/345fbdd4_Stephen-Colbert-Popcorn.gif
Faleel
05-09-2013, 02:27 AM
I agree with you in everything, except I can't stand Insurrection, and I actually somewhat enjoy 2009 and Into Darkness
hater
05-09-2013, 02:52 AM
Why does your opinion override mine, when mine is backed up with considered opinion, intelligent comparison, and musical acumen... and yours is backed up with a series of typically exaggerated, spurious claims and rounded neatly off with "You're wrong because you're wrong"?
If there's any other way of hearing the score other than in either playing the game or watching somebody else play the game please do let me know...
If watching Gameplay videos doesn't count, what does? Somewhere, you're hearing different music to the anaemic trash I'm hearing. I've watched several hours of Gameplay (against my better judgement) and have found myself genuinely impressed by probably thirty seconds to a minute of music. This is not a good batting average. It's a fairly safe bet, I think, to say that the rest of the score is up to that same calibre (or lack thereof)... considerably less logical than what you seem to be implying; that due to my stupidity in forming an opinion before digesting the whole score, I should shut my face. ;)
Again, it's surprisingly well orchestrated and it's an improvement on the movie scores... and it has its moments... but will I throw away Total Recall, Superman, Starship Troopers, Star Trek First Contact / Insurrection / Nemesis, or Star Wars in order to make space for this piece of junk...?
if i would have to throw away one of those it would be Nemesis. And Total Recall is the best actionscore of all time.
i have no musical background, simply a filmmusicfan since the 90s.Mostly i totally agree with the musical situation nowadays which resulted in a 95% drop of new score release purchases for me.But once a while there is something special out there (or in this case isn�t) But your posts always make them sound terrible.Piece of Junk.How can this be a Piece of Junk? I cant argue with you, dont have the knowledge and english is obviously not my strongest language.But dont call it a piece of junk please, putting it between the real pieces of junk that are everywhere nowadays.
Sirusjr
05-09-2013, 03:13 AM
I guess I am the only one here who finds total recall to be completely painful and worthless. I also wouldn't keep Nemesis either, not particularly good.
Faleel
05-09-2013, 03:18 AM
Nemesis is great in complete form, almost as good as The Final Frontier.
Insurrection is just tedious, "themeless, rooted in a lowest common denominator style that makes a cursory attempt to say "Star Trek" without straying too far away from the modern blockbuster score expectation; namely no themes, and a proliferation of pointlessly turgid percussion and electronica designed to distract young people from the fact that they're listening to a symphony orchestra;" and repetitive.
hater
05-09-2013, 03:39 AM
themeless and Goldsmith doesn�t sound right
Faleel
05-09-2013, 03:42 AM
The were all oh so short in Insurrection, so I consider 'em motifs (and themes from the previous scores do not count)
hater
05-09-2013, 03:52 AM
btw something that interests me...
when does a motif become a theme? whats the definition of motifs and themes?
---------- Post added at 08:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:51 PM ----------
btw something that interests me...
when does a motif become a theme? whats the definition of motifs and themes?
Faleel
05-09-2013, 03:54 AM
I always thought they were the same at first, but then came to know otherwise.
streichorchester
05-09-2013, 04:20 AM
The beginning of this Star Trek - Gameplay Walkthrough - Hard - Part 2 - New Vulcan - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBNc6kBNy4E) reminds me of the beginning of this 13th warrior soundtrack - 12 swing across - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VerygO8lcM)
hater
05-09-2013, 04:31 AM
always thought this sounds like something from Insurrection.Chad is a huge Goldsmith fan
Sirusjr
05-09-2013, 04:34 AM
To me a motif is shorter, often a part of a theme as compared to a full statement of a theme. Some examples of good themes, Iron Man 3, Space Brothers, Chihayafuru. Most scores go the motif way these days with three or four note motifs. Now nothing wrong with this in theory, some great golden age scores were focused highly on motifs, but composers need to learn to describe their stuff properly. Either it is a theme or it is a motif.
Doublehex
05-09-2013, 04:41 AM
...Am I the only one that thought motifs and themes were exactly the same? The wikipedia article described motifs as a piece of music thematically associated with a person, place, thing or idea.
Oh. I'm the only one that had no idea what he was talking about? Okay then! :D
streichorchester
05-09-2013, 04:53 AM
Ah, you're right. I don't have Insurrection memorized as I do 13th Warrior, but this is probably the source then Star Trek: Insurrection OST: 3. In Custody - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkmGnlJeIGA)
Definitely a Goldsmithian sound.
hater
05-09-2013, 04:54 AM
so basicly the difference between motifs and themes is their complexity?
TazerMonkey
05-09-2013, 05:17 AM
I think of a motif as a phrase (danger motif), and a theme as a sentence (Force theme).
juelz
05-09-2013, 05:23 AM
Thanks, Herr Salat, for the "Giant Robo"-Scores!
Sirusjr
05-09-2013, 05:32 AM
I think of a motif as a phrase (danger motif), and a theme as a sentence (Force theme).
Compare for example the four notes of the danger motif with the 29 notes of the Space Brothers theme.
streichorchester
05-09-2013, 05:50 AM
A motif is a subset of a theme: a motif can also be a theme, but a theme doesn't necessarily have to be a motif. For example, in the Asteroid Field you hear the Imperial March in full theme mode. When Luke takes off Vader's helmet at the end of Jedi, you hear a variation on the Imperial March theme in motif mode.
The Star Trek 2009 theme is more of a motif because, well, in addition to other factors, it just isn't long enough. It's short and simple. A theme should practically be its own piece of music. Think about how Williams turns his themes in concert suites. How are you supposed to do that with just four bars of melody repeated back to back to back? Maybe Giacchino wrote himself into a wall when he hit that A major dominant too soon and had no where to go but back to the beginning in D minor. Where else can it go? Usually themes have an ending as well. Check out the ending on this Star Trek theme:
Star Trek Generations (Overture) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKK3WKcPyo)
The theme's ending starts at 1:17. There are more harmonies in McCarthy's theme's ending alone than in Giacchino's whole theme! Cmaj7 C Cmaj7 F Bb G C
I think Giacchino tried to complete the theme during the end credits at around 7:20 heard here Michael Giacchino - Star Trek (2009) To Boldly Go & End Credits - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtl0aQCauJA) but how many people agree this is the theme heard in its entirety? It just seems like more variations on the same motif, and eventually just lands on A major again.
Giacchino had this idea to make the motif and its variations the basis for every cue in the score, and while it is very clever, it seems unsatisfying given the breadth of themes we are used to hearing in the Star Trek franchise (except for Star Trek Enterprise that is...)
streichorchester
05-09-2013, 05:50 AM
double posted
Herr Salat
05-09-2013, 08:15 AM
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juelz
05-09-2013, 11:39 AM
Thanks again, Herr (Kartoffel)Salat! ;)
You are so quick with the uploads.
Now all what is missing i believe is the following ones:
- Giant Robo Kanzeban (Symphony)
- Masamichi Amano - 1e. Suite Symphonique
- Giant Robo The Animation Original Soundtrack I-VII
Do you happen to have it by any chance?
A big "Thanks" in advance for your help! :)
Herr Salat
05-09-2013, 12:04 PM
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juelz
05-09-2013, 12:10 PM
Thank you so much, Salat!
Now my Giant Robo-Collection is complete! :)
Herr Salat
05-09-2013, 12:25 PM
Hideaki Kobayashi, Kenichi Tokoi, Fumie Kumatani
Phantasy Star Universe (2006) - Orchestral Score
Orchestrated and Conducted by Masamichi Amano
The Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra (Tracks 1, 3, 8, 9, and 10)
The Hollywood Session Orchestra (Tracks 2, 4, 5, 6, and 8)
01. Save This World
Composer: Hideaki Kobayashi
02. Parum
Composer: Hideaki Kobayashi
03. Guardians
Composer: Hideaki Kobayashi
04. Ancient Civilization
Composer: Hideaki Kobayashi
05. Moatoob
Composer: Tokoi Kenichi
06. S.E.E.D
Composer: Tokoi Kenichi
07. Neudaiz
Composer: Tokoi Kenichi
08. For Brighter Day
Composer: Fumie Kumatani
09. With You
Composer: Fumie Kumatani, Tokoi Kenichi
10. Save This World (Reprise)
Composer: Hideaki Kobayashi
Not my rip; sourced from doppel9014's splendid APE rip here: The Lossless Video Game Soundtrack Thread (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/lossless-video-game-soundtrack-thread-links-first-64743/666.html#post1930223)
Orchestral score only; 10 tracks, total playing time 37:39. All electronic tracks and pop songs removed. Tagged in English.
There's heaps of crap in Phantasy Star Universe. There's also a stunning orchestral score hiding right in the middle of it - with orchestrations by Masamichi Amano in full Giant Robo and Battle Royale mode (not in lobotomised Shiro Sagisu mode) and a splendid performance by not one but two orchestras! The Warsaw Philharmonic provide twenty two minutes (and certainly the more noteworthy cues) with the Hollywood Session Orchestra picking up the remaining fifteen, for a total of 37 minutes of really lovely score. A full orchestral version of "Save This World" kicks off the album, and a shorter version finishes it off. "For Brighter Day" also receives a slightly more sedate arrangement. In between, there is glittering heroism, rollicking action, and tension galore. and Finally, you get a ravishing symphonic ballad - "With You" - just the kind of completely larger than life, schmaltzy, almost hilariously over-orchestrated piece that makes me completely weak kneed!)
Enjoy! It's been forever since I listened to it and I don't think I really appreciated how good it was until now! :)
DOWNLOAD
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hater
05-09-2013, 02:49 PM
4 (almost) complete tracks from Star Trek the Videogame
chadseiter's sets on SoundCloud - Hear the world?s sounds (
http://soundcloud.com/chadseiter)
tangotreats
05-09-2013, 04:10 PM
Many thanks for the samples... as I expected, absolutely atrocious... though Seiter at least tries to make something of that hopeless "theme" that Giacchino utterly failed to exploit...
Oh, well... at least I can now be sure that I'm not at all bothered about hearing the rest...
Cheers for the heads up. :)
Doublehex
05-09-2013, 05:12 PM
Atrocious? Really? I mean, that was no Mozart but that was fairly enjoyable music that Seiter produced. Not bad at all for a first score.
ChadleyS
05-09-2013, 05:29 PM
anaemic trash
as I expected, absolutely atrocious
I LOVE everything this guy posts!
-Chad
Sirusjr
05-09-2013, 05:36 PM
Well it basically sounds like Giacchino orchestrations with a little bit more flighty movement in the music.
tangotreats
05-09-2013, 05:42 PM
..........Oh, bugger. :erm:
ChadleyS
05-09-2013, 07:08 PM
a typical themeless modern score that makes its mark with volume, tempo, and percussion instead of with music.
There we go, I put up a track just for you! :)
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