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CC
11-30-2011, 04:07 AM
Bought Rage today, but haven't even started playing it yet because I stupidly started RE5 again the other day and am thankfully almost done. How many more times is Sheva going to 'owe me one' before she finally follows through?! Thinking about selling my copy after this run. Just can't be bothered to play through it another time :-/

Think before the night is through, it's time for some Rage~

DoDoRay9000
11-30-2011, 05:53 AM
Now that you mentioned about RE5, I've been thinking about playing The Mercenaries and The Mercenaries Reunion to try and get better at them and try to finish the game on a harder difficulty since I got infinite ammo for that one-shot kill pistol(don't remember the name of it). I think I'm going to enjoy mowing down some Majini on a even harder difficulty now that I got that pistol >:]

Edit: Just remembered. I don't have it with me at the moment :cryingbatman:

aces4839
11-30-2011, 05:57 AM
@Candy.M

Skyward Sword is one of the candidates for game of the year. it's that good. Game Informer gave it a rare perfect score.

@Crash Bandicoot

can u try to convince me Crash Twinsanity is better than when i played it? i got sick of seeing the same cutscene every time i died.

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got most of the trophies i could with Monopoly Streets and am gonna continue the Ratchet & Clank game.

BasilCulex
11-30-2011, 06:23 AM
So you think Legened of Zelda Skywars Sword is worth buying? I have been contomplating it for awhile now and I'm just not sure about it. I played the other one for wii (twilight princess I think) and didn't care too much for it.

Oh hell ya man

I'm so far like 5-6 hrs into the game and barely finished the first dungeon. The overworld, there's so much to explore and to do before you actually get into the actual dungeons along with that the dungeons themselves seem to be alot bigger and longer than previous zelda titles.

The gameplay makes the whole experience more worthwhile. I recommend getting it.

chewey
11-30-2011, 06:27 AM
The game doesn't really have an "overworld" though. I'd say dungeons are shorter (and less tedious) than they've been before too, it's just that now the entire game is basically a dungeon.

Maxx Skywalker
11-30-2011, 12:03 PM
Best Zelda game ever.

And to not be left out of the Skyward Sword discussion;

I'm maybe 10 or so hours in. I've hit the second temple, and I have to say that I am enjoying myself. Though, it really seems that Nintendo took a step back with this title, because there's far more linearity than previous titles, and the 'overworld' is incredibly sparse. Even more so than Windwaker, but not nearly as expansive. Hey, it's fun, and I'm not letting its linear structure get in the way of that, I'm just not sure it's better than Twilight Princess, or even Ocarina of Time.

CC
11-30-2011, 06:53 PM
Rage. You know a game is gonna be good when the first friendly voice to greet you is John Goodman ^^

Trying to collect all the car parts from the Wasted garage. Freakin' turret gun on the car keeps wasting me >.< But that's okay, there's plenty of other stuff to do and places to explore until I feel the urge to conquer those freaks :) So nice to see such an open-ended game; I mean sure, the story takes you from point A to point B as expected, but the graphics are bar none the best I've ever seen in a video game. I've noticed zooming in actually reduces the quality a bit because you can see some of the ruddy edges of stuff. But that's fine; it doesn't diminish my experience one bit. I love the ability to actually revisit areas, explore a pretty open world, do various jobs, and not feel confined on a narrow path like many other popular titles tend to do >.<

The game seems to borrow largely from Borderlands, but I find myself enjoying this a whole lot more. The designs are insanely cool, and I'm anxious to delve deeper into the overall plot. Right now it's a lot of running around doing various errands (I still can't find where to set off those damned signal flares for the dude in Outrigger Territory >.<) but eventually I can see the plot unfolding quite rapidly once I get some of this out of the way. I've seen loads of criticisms for the game already, but what others perceive as shortcomings I honestly don't mind one bit. I'm not hard to please when it comes to videogames (unless the game is called The World Ends With You) and this title is turning out to be everything I hoped for. It also tends to have little nods toward previous id Software games placed variously around, such as the Quake logo drawn in blood in the Wasted garage, Mixom bolts in Outrigger's repair shop (something you previously saw here and there in Doom 3), and some of the enemy designs so far appear similar to the Grunts in the original Quake.

The aspect of riding around the overworld on various vehicles is also a welcome addition, and one I've seen bashed numerously on varying sites. Having this feature makes traveling between destinations far more compelling and fun, as is the ability to move about an expansive world to begin with. Many games have had similar mechanics, but there's something increasingly captivating about having this in a game that runs 60fps without sacrificing a hint of quality in the process. This is also the first game in a long time I've seen that actually stays true to what ever screenshot and initial promise made it out to be. I'm not finding myself let down or disappointed, because the game isn't false-advertised with exaggerations or pretenses that amount to nothing. I'm glad I didn't listen to the naysayers and gave this a chance; id has done pretty much everything right (except of course for Quake 4, but we can let that slide since Raven Software were the ones in charge, id only marginally supervising while Raven abused their id Tech 4 engine with a rushed game with good graphics >.<), and I can only imagine Doom 4 is gonna be epic.

aces4839
11-30-2011, 09:19 PM
found enemies to be too powerful in the Ratchet & Clank game i was playin. went back to Star Ocean: Till the End of Time.

DoDoRay9000
12-01-2011, 10:02 AM
I just saw a blood dragon having a seizure in the air and started flying backwards for a few seconds in Skyrim. What skooma it be smokin'? o_0

Edit: Now it just got itself stuck somehow. It's a few feet off the ground

Edit 2: It just... I don't know how to explain it, but it launched itself from the ground and went in to the sky and it's now stuck in the sky.

Edit 3: Now it flew backwards again. My copy of Skyrim is on serious drugs.

aces4839
12-01-2011, 05:50 PM
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness

N-12_Aden
12-02-2011, 04:41 AM
Rage. You know a game is gonna be good when the first friendly voice to greet you is John Goodman ^^

Trying to collect all the car parts from the Wasted garage. Freakin' turret gun on the car keeps wasting me >.< But that's okay, there's plenty of other stuff to do and places to explore until I feel the urge to conquer those freaks :) So nice to see such an open-ended game; I mean sure, the story takes you from point A to point B as expected, but the graphics are bar none the best I've ever seen in a video game. I've noticed zooming in actually reduces the quality a bit because you can see some of the ruddy edges of stuff. But that's fine; it doesn't diminish my experience one bit. I love the ability to actually revisit areas, explore a pretty open world, do various jobs, and not feel confined on a narrow path like many other popular titles tend to do >.<

The game seems to borrow largely from Borderlands, but I find myself enjoying this a whole lot more. The designs are insanely cool, and I'm anxious to delve deeper into the overall plot. Right now it's a lot of running around doing various errands (I still can't find where to set off those damned signal flares for the dude in Outrigger Territory >.<) but eventually I can see the plot unfolding quite rapidly once I get some of this out of the way. I've seen loads of criticisms for the game already, but what others perceive as shortcomings I honestly don't mind one bit. I'm not hard to please when it comes to videogames (unless the game is called The World Ends With You) and this title is turning out to be everything I hoped for. It also tends to have little nods toward previous id Software games placed variously around, such as the Quake logo drawn in blood in the Wasted garage, Mixom bolts in Outrigger's repair shop (something you previously saw here and there in Doom 3), and some of the enemy designs so far appear similar to the Grunts in the original Quake.

The aspect of riding around the overworld on various vehicles is also a welcome addition, and one I've seen bashed numerously on varying sites. Having this feature makes traveling between destinations far more compelling and fun, as is the ability to move about an expansive world to begin with. Many games have had similar mechanics, but there's something increasingly captivating about having this in a game that runs 60fps without sacrificing a hint of quality in the process. This is also the first game in a long time I've seen that actually stays true to what ever screenshot and initial promise made it out to be. I'm not finding myself let down or disappointed, because the game isn't false-advertised with exaggerations or pretenses that amount to nothing. I'm glad I didn't listen to the naysayers and gave this a chance; id has done pretty much everything right (except of course for Quake 4, but we can let that slide since Raven Software were the ones in charge, id only marginally supervising while Raven abused their id Tech 4 engine with a rushed game with good graphics >.<), and I can only imagine Doom 4 is gonna be epic.

John Goodman you say?

"Shut the fuck up Donny."

"Donny, You are out of your element!"

CC
12-02-2011, 05:39 AM
John Goodman you say?

"Shut the fuck up Donny."

"Donny, You are out of your element!"

Haha, Dan Hagar's sure a step up from Dan Connor, that's a fact ^^

aces4839
12-02-2011, 08:57 AM
Jak 3

N-12_Aden
12-02-2011, 08:31 PM
Well, been playing MW3 a lot on a roomates PS3, and this is my review of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__4QgP4F-A&feature=g-vrec).

DoDoRay9000
12-02-2011, 09:34 PM
SD Gundam Capsule Fighter since it launched yesterday.

Vrykolas
12-03-2011, 01:43 AM
Blazblue: Calamity Trigger.

davidmark
12-03-2011, 02:03 AM
SD Gundam Capsule Fighter since it launched yesterday.


Hey is that the new version?

Tanis
12-03-2011, 02:09 AM
Mostly Skyrim, again.
Trying to do ALL the Thief Guild quests...but there's a lot, and I get distracted.

davidmark
12-03-2011, 02:18 AM
Mostly Skyrim, again.
Trying to do ALL the Thief Guild quests...but there's a lot, and I get distracted.



Hi Tanis.. is there any updates of version about that? anyway what kind of that game? do you have a installer?of that game?






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Jabeo
12-03-2011, 04:51 AM
Unlimited Saga.

Darth Revan
12-03-2011, 05:51 AM
Thanks to watching the trailer for the reboot of Syndicate (watch here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSNrfNTTP3U&feature=related)), I managed to find my copy of the original Syndicate and it's expansion.... gotta love controlling 4 trenchcoat clad cyborgs carring 8 miniguns, causing wanton destruction everywhere.... Good times.

DoDoRay9000
12-03-2011, 06:12 AM
Hey is that the new version?

Not necessarily, it was just only translated and published in the West since it was published in other Asian countries.

Tanis
12-03-2011, 10:37 AM
Hi Tanis.. is there any updates of version about that? anyway what kind of that game? do you have a installer?of that game?
Wut?
I'm playing on PS3.
Not part of the PC Master Race anymore.

aces4839
12-03-2011, 09:23 PM
just finished Jak 3.

DoDoRay9000
12-04-2011, 04:51 AM
WAS playing Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. Now my saved profile vanished because of some stupid goddamn cell phone bug where it says "Data is corrupt. Would you like to delete it?" Happened to me for the first time at the Amusement Park(I was going to take a photo where I saw grey noise) and now I'm angry. I don't feel like playing it any time soon.

It begs the question: If the Wii console can get updates, why can't the games? Shattered Memories is need of one because of that bullshit bug/glitch.

Edit: Gonna read some lsd dream emulator creepy pasta. Might make me feel better >:\

ROKUSHO
12-04-2011, 05:06 AM
if you dont want the game anymore, give it to me! ive been looking everywhere for it and cant find it! (excluding the internet).

also, playing no more heroes 2.

never thought ill see the day i would laugh at the word "fuckface"

DoDoRay9000
12-04-2011, 05:17 AM
You can check at Gamestop, depending on where you live. They still have it where I live.

ROKUSHO
12-04-2011, 07:39 AM
i went to 3 gamestops. none had it.

DoDoRay9000
12-04-2011, 07:00 PM
Well, going to get started once again. Still angry about what happend, but this time, I'm going to do a non-stop playthrough.

Oh, and maybe try best buy?

aces4839
12-04-2011, 07:20 PM
i went to 3 gamestops. none had it.

did u check gamestop's web site?

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currently playin Disgaea: Hour of Darkness.

Toadsanime
12-04-2011, 07:25 PM
Completed Silent Hill 2 recently and now I'm playing through Rayman Origins.

aces4839
12-04-2011, 07:34 PM
I'm playing through Rayman Origins.

good luck. the game was hell for me.

DoDoRay9000
12-05-2011, 01:59 AM
Finished Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, thank god, only saved twice. Sad ending, though. :(. The Simmons Street house frustrated me on this play-through.

I'm still pissed off at the developers for not seeing that game killing phone bug/glitch, though. I know the developers can't fix ALL bugs, but how they let that one slip just baffles me. First Silent Hill game I've played to have a game killing bug. Next time I play it, I'm going to get the UFO ending(with the help of an online walk-through) for kicks and giggles. :p

Now, I don't know what to play, because that phone bug is still making me angry just thinking about.

I know one thing that sucks about wii games, though. They can't get updates like the 360 and ps3 games. Just released as is. No patches, no nothing.

aces4839
12-05-2011, 03:30 AM
not havin patches is a good thing, in my view. no waitin hours just to get an update for the game.

DoDoRay9000
12-05-2011, 03:37 AM
Not having patches is a bad thing, imo. I'd take waiting for patches to come out over bugs trying to bitch slap me in the face and say "Want to proceed? Want to get far? Well, FUCK YOU, I'M TAKING THAT AWAY FROM YOU >=D!" like what Silent Hill: Shattered Memories did, haha. Kind of makes me not want to ask for a wii game or buy a wii game, but then again, that's the only wii game I know that has that.

aces4839
12-05-2011, 03:39 AM
but it also means that those without the better internet connections (myself included) dont have to worry about ridiculous slow times or freezes whens theres no patch involved. saves me the trouble.

DoDoRay9000
12-05-2011, 03:41 AM
Ah, I see your point. Silly me haha.

Edit: Gonna play APB.

aces4839
12-05-2011, 03:43 AM
APB?

DragonKazooie89
12-05-2011, 06:46 AM
Chameleon Twist 2 and Sonic Generations

ROKUSHO
12-05-2011, 07:42 AM
aces, i did say i didnt look at the internet.in that case, i can easily buy it on ebay for 20 new.
but since i was there (and low on cash) i was hoping to find it at 10 used.

i did get 2 posters though.
they were gonna throw them away anyway.

aces4839
12-05-2011, 07:53 AM
well, its not gonna be 10 bucks used. i believe its 17.99 for a used one now.

DoDoRay9000
12-05-2011, 09:24 AM
APB?

All Points Bulletin: Reloaded, to be exact.

Played MoonBase Alpha. Pretty interesting concept. Was a nice relaxing break from Fear 2 after playing it with turtle beach headsets. :\

Tanis
12-05-2011, 09:28 AM
Is TF2 free now, on PS3?

chewey
12-05-2011, 10:17 AM
Nope.

aces4839
12-05-2011, 05:19 PM
All Points Bulletin: Reloaded, to be exact.

Played MoonBase Alpha. Pretty interesting concept. Was a nice relaxing break from Fear 2 after playing it with turtle beach headsets. :\

i see. i've never heard of it, so i had to be sure.

Purrr
12-06-2011, 03:08 AM
Currently playing vanilla WoW on a server known as World of Scriptcraft.

Easily the most fun I've had with WoW for years since The Burning Crusade.

Maxx Skywalker
12-06-2011, 03:53 AM
I got MarioKart 7 yesterday, so I've been playing through that quite a bit. Skyward Sword shall wait for now. In any case, I made it through all the courses in 50cc, and I shall be moving up in difficulty once I get out of work. The courses are pretty cool, engaging and fun. The remakes are a welcome addition once again, and if I hear anyone complaining about them again, I'm gonna start punting babies. The selection is pretty cool, though I would have liked to see Toad's Turnpike this time around, though. Otherwise, it's an awesome selection, certainly surprised to see the final course in the last grand prix cup.

I only have a few gripes, but they are minor in comparison to the larger picture. They brought in Wuhu Island for two courses, though fun, left me dissatisfied simply because instead of going laps around the perimeter of the island, they have it split up into three quadrants/checkpoints. This made the course much too short. Otherwise, it was fine enough to be in the game. Also, they took out one of my favorite modes from MK DS: they ended up taking out single-player Vs. which essentially allowed you to race through all the tracks randomly with CP opponents. Double Dash had this with the Marathon Cup, so I'm hoping that gets unlocked, but I'm afraid that there will only be just the Mirror Cups.

Vrykolas
12-06-2011, 04:16 AM
Been playing Knights of the Old Republic again.

I'd forgotten how dastardly the Czerka corporation are in that game. Yet more bashing of us Brits for our less than noble deeds back in the colonial days. Same thing in Skyrim too, with the Thalamor being thinly disguised British colonists, all haughty, arrogant and cruel. Hey RPG developers - that was all a long time ago. We're really much nicer here in Britain these days :D

Great game, just a shame that Bioware have forgotten how to make games like this.

DoDoRay9000
12-06-2011, 03:54 PM
I'd forgotten how dastardly the Czerka corporation are in that game. Yet more bashing of us Brits for our less than noble deeds back in the colonial days. Same thing in Skyrim too, with the Thalamor being thinly disguised British colonists, all haughty, arrogant and cruel. Hey RPG developers - that was all a long time ago. We're really much nicer here in Britain these days :D

I haven't seen how bad the Czerka corporation was since I was working with them for the money haha. The Thalamor though, I despised them when I've seen how arrogant they are, especially those Thalamor High Elves(smug assholes lol). Good thing I've been thinking about joining the StormCloaks. :)

Vrykolas
12-07-2011, 04:22 AM
I sided with the Imperial Legion, because I've always liked the Romans and I really like the Thalamor (just wish they had more to do in the game). Medieval British elves and American Romans versus Nazi Vikings... sounds like the pitch for a great movie to me!

Mystearica81
12-07-2011, 05:35 AM
I am currently playingFinal Fantasy The 4 Hereos of Light for the DS XL

chewey
12-07-2011, 11:40 PM
That game is great :)

aces4839
12-08-2011, 01:52 AM
Suikoden V has been keepin me busy.

Purrr
12-08-2011, 03:50 AM
Downloaded and patched the FFXI free trial so will hop on when I get home.

At work now so can't wait to get started.

Enkidoh
12-08-2011, 02:51 PM
You're coming back to FFXI Purrr? Why not just reactivate your old account and go back to Zarcian or Wagrum - it would save a lot of time and bother having to start over from scratch. :)

Kinda in keeping with FFXI, I went back to Dissidia Duodecium and finally levelled Shantotto to level 100. Now I just need to complete that stupid Labyrinth Mode to get her ultimate weapons, armour and the like. But she's still a weapon of magical destruction even with gutter gear. :p

N-12_Aden
12-09-2011, 02:48 AM
I sided with the Imperial Legion, because I've always liked the Romans and I really like the Thalamor (just wish they had more to do in the game). Medieval British elves and American Romans versus Nazi Vikings... sounds like the pitch for a great movie to me!

The Thalamor? I cant stand the Stormcloaks but the Aldmeri Dominion are worse. I mean they deny Talos as a Divine (even though his divinity has been proven), committed widespread Genocide in the Great War, and have made the Empire its bitch. Theres not much to really like about them at all.

Vrykolas
12-09-2011, 07:04 AM
First of all, you can like a race/institution etc without approving of what they do. There has to be some kind of motivating force at work in a game, or you just get dull, peaceful situations. And I don't find either the Stormlcloaks or the Dragons to be interesting enough enemies (the stormcloaks are okay, but the main quest dealing with the Dragons is aeful). I would much rather be able to engage with the Thalamor as the primary antagonists (either by joining or opposing them).

As for them being likeable or not... Well, who's to say that Talos is a divine? Several characters who aren't from the Dominion also make the point that just because someone is a great ruler etc, does not entitle them to godhood. Besides, the Thalamor have all but conqueroed the Empire, but how is that any different to when Tiber Septim (i.e Talos) conquered the whole of Tamriel? The Empire is so large because of military conquest - if its alright for the Empire, why are the Dominion not allowed to get a bit of that action?

Things could be a lot worse - with the power the Dominion have, they could have made their terms a *lot* more unreasonable. Even General Tulllius and the remaining members of the Blades are afraid of going up against them, because they are just too strong to oppose in open warfare. The Thalamor are not nice people, and will likely only get more oppressive as time goes on, but take heart in the fact that they unless they soften their hardline attitude, they'll be overthrown eventually or overextend themselves, as such regimes always are.

My point was that I would have been much more interested in a story dealing with Skyrim's fight for independence (or help the Thalamor cement their position), possibly rallying the Legion in the area to your side, and finding some way to strike back at the Thalamor. Because whilst you may say the story already is about this, it really isn't. If the Stormcloaks win, Skyrim isn't free - it will just mean that the Thalamor will get involved directly in the war, as previously they left it all up to the Empire to honour its treaty etc and don't really take much interest in the civil war. To be truly independant, the story would have to show you striking a meaningful blow at the Thalamor themselves and suggest some way they might be overthrown (even if you can't do it in the actual game, because you are obviously stuck in Skyrim).

All of which must be better than wasting time in the absurdly boring Dragonblood questline. That goes nowhere, and when you're done, only one NPC (in the whole world) actually acknowledges you've done it - despite many others knowing you were doing it, nobody cares or comments on it afterwards! Which just makes it feel even more of a huge waste of time and effort. As it is, both the main quest and Civil War side questline are deeply unsatisfying and vastly oversimplified. The bit where the Greybeards arbitrate a truce is the most interesting bit of either quest - it never gets that good again.

aces4839
12-09-2011, 09:29 AM
Disgaea 3. i was in the item world lookin for a legend Arcadia with my Druid with the Bonus Change. It took me 429 turns just to get even ONE of those items. it's safe to say, I am never doin that again.

DoDoRay9000
12-09-2011, 11:02 AM
I personally like the main quest so far. I've been busy with other side quests though to help get more money and experience. As much as I hate those accursed Ice Dragons, I like dragon hunting(with the help of my companions, until I feel I can face them on my own). I saved up on a good amount of Dragon souls I've used only twice, I believe. Also, Unrelenting Force maxed rules. xD

I'm curious, though. How do you know so much about the lore of Skyrim?

Gundam VS Zeta Gundam

N-12_Aden
12-09-2011, 05:18 PM
First of all, you can like a race/institution etc without approving of what they do. There has to be some kind of motivating force at work in a game, or you just get dull, peaceful situations. And I don't find either the Stormlcloaks or the Dragons to be interesting enough enemies (the stormcloaks are okay, but the main quest dealing with the Dragons is aeful). I would much rather be able to engage with the Thalamor as the primary antagonists (either by joining or opposing them).

As for them being likeable or not... Well, who's to say that Talos is a divine? Several characters who aren't from the Dominion also make the point that just because someone is a great ruler etc, does not entitle them to godhood. Besides, the Thalamor have all but conqueroed the Empire, but how is that any different to when Tiber Septim (i.e Talos) conquered the whole of Tamriel? The Empire is so large because of military conquest - if its alright for the Empire, why are the Dominion not allowed to get a bit of that action?

Things could be a lot worse - with the power the Dominion have, they could have made their terms a *lot* more unreasonable. Even General Tulllius and the remaining members of the Blades are afraid of going up against them, because they are just too strong to oppose in open warfare. The Thalamor are not nice people, and will likely only get more oppressive as time goes on, but take heart in the fact that they unless they soften their hardline attitude, they'll be overthrown eventually or overextend themselves, as such regimes always are.

My point was that I would have been much more interested in a story dealing with Skyrim's fight for independence (or help the Thalamor cement their position), possibly rallying the Legion in the area to your side, and finding some way to strike back at the Thalamor. Because whilst you may say the story already is about this, it really isn't. If the Stormcloaks win, Skyrim isn't free - it will just mean that the Thalamor will get involved directly in the war, as previously they left it all up to the Empire to honour its treaty etc and don't really take much interest in the civil war. To be truly independant, the story would have to show you striking a meaningful blow at the Thalamor themselves and suggest some way they might be overthrown (even if you can't do it in the actual game, because you are obviously stuck in Skyrim).

All of which must be better than wasting time in the absurdly boring Dragonblood questline. That goes nowhere, and when you're done, only one NPC (in the whole world) actually acknowledges you've done it - despite many others knowing you were doing it, nobody cares or comments on it afterwards! Which just makes it feel even more of a huge waste of time and effort. As it is, both the main quest and Civil War side questline are deeply unsatisfying and vastly oversimplified. The bit where the Greybeards arbitrate a truce is the most interesting bit of either quest - it never gets that good again.

Okay, my bad :laugh:

But Talos has been proven a God due to needing the Blood of a God to make the Portal to Dagon's "Paradise", with the Mysterium Xarxes being written long before Tiber Septim's time.

It would be cool to push the Thalmor out of Skyrim, but the Legionairres would not desert so easily, and even then the Thalmor would bring down the military hammer of Heaven and Hell on Skyrim and the current Imperial Remnant (im not even acknowleging them as a full empire at this point, seeings how all they solidly controll is Cyrodill and parts of Skyrim. However, if you were to get Skyrim, the Imperial Remnant, and the current Hammerfell nation on one side, then it would be a winnable war.

If you got the game on the computer, I would be keeping an eye on the modding community. There are height maps for most Cyrodill and Hammerfell outside of the normal map, which means modders can build on it. Not to mention the team that did Nehrim for Oblivion and Cube One for Fallout will more than likely have a total conversion mod in a few years.

Vrykolas
12-09-2011, 08:18 PM
Dodo: You pick up the lore from what characters say, and you just sort of 'osmose' information as the game goes along, slowly building up a firm picture of what is going on (although you are never given the chance to hear the Thalamor side of things, I might add). For example, there is a quest where a woman asks you to find her son who has been arrrested by the Thalamor for supposedly supporting the Stormcloaks. I had aided the Legion in winning the civil war by this point, and was on good terms with General Tullius, so I asked him if he could bring up the possibility of releasing the prisoner with the Thalamor. He refuses, because he says the danger of antagonising the Thalamor is simply too great. Likewise the Blades candidly admit they were completely outclassed by the Thalamor and were defeated easily.

Plus, Dragon hunting gets *really* old. They just keep coming, and they are no threat at all, which relegates them to the status of 'pests', which is a pretty sad state of affairs for the big bads of the game! I hate the Dragons, and I cry out in despair whenever one shows up, because I just can't be bothered killing yet another one!

N-10: My issue is simply that in a game that purports to let you go anywhere, do anything, complete the game *your* way etc etc, you should be able to side with the Thalamor. You are forced to side against them, and can never engage with them on friendly terms at all. It was the same with the Mythic Dawn in Oblivion and the Enclave in Fallout 3. New Vegas was the only one to play fair and allow you to side with anyone you wanted. It doesn't have to be a good decision by you, and it could even end up destroying civilisation as you know it etc, but if that's the choice you make, the game should honour it.

Just because certain factions are 'evil' doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to support them. You can join the Dark Brotherhood for example, and they are hardly paragons of virtue are they?! With regards to 'proof' of Talos' divinty, that is speculative at best. Using magic items and tomes to achieve certain effects is by its very nature arcane and unknowable. We are told that X is the only way to achieve Y effect, but these kinds of rules are frequently broken in novels and later games etc. Its Deus Ex Machina, and these things are always 'The Only Way' - until its inconvient, in which case anyone with a length of copper wire and some blackberries can do it etc etc.

I'm not saying you're wrong about Talos (you're almost certainly right), but we don't know enough about the Dominion's motives, and we never hear the Thalamor side of things, so who's to say?

ROKUSHO
12-09-2011, 11:22 PM
finished no more heroes 2. awesome game, lamest ending ever.

kairithepaladin
12-10-2011, 01:56 AM
Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion XL (Wii)

Protip: Pick Samurai Jack. Just trust me on this.

Tanis
12-10-2011, 02:01 AM
I never asked for this...

DoDoRay9000
12-10-2011, 03:18 AM
Heh, I busted that woman's son out of that Thalamor fort :p.


I never asked for this...



What a shame :|

BasilCulex
12-10-2011, 03:25 AM
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword (Wii)
Chrono Trigger (SNES) - Recording

Darth Revan
12-10-2011, 07:49 AM
Gone back to Mass Effect 2. Working on my third Shepard in preparation for Mass Effect 3 next March... and to tide me over til I get Skyrim next week.

Smarty
12-10-2011, 05:38 PM
Starcraft II. God damn I'm getting wasted. I'm barely holding my own in Silver League, how the hell did I ever reach Diamond last year? People must have really improved.

Purrr
12-10-2011, 06:58 PM
You're coming back to FFXI Purrr? Why not just reactivate your old account and go back to Zarcian or Wagrum - it would save a lot of time and bother having to start over from scratch. :)

Kinda in keeping with FFXI, I went back to Dissidia Duodecium and finally levelled Shantotto to level 100. Now I just need to complete that stupid Labyrinth Mode to get her ultimate weapons, armour and the like. But she's still a weapon of magical destruction even with gutter gear. :p

Sorry, just noticed your post.

Not returning full time, just felt like having a bash on a free trial for a bit. I've thought about returning, but with my new job there's no way I could go back to an American sleep pattern again :(

DoDoRay9000
12-10-2011, 10:42 PM

Playing Project Eden on the PS2. I regretted selling this game at GameStop and now, I'm so glad I got this from Amazon. I wanted to give it a chance since I was stuck at one point.

Ravenlord
12-12-2011, 03:17 AM
Playing Trine 2, Beautiful!

DoDoRay9000
12-13-2011, 09:58 PM
Rock of Ages.

Hilarious game.

avilslare
12-14-2011, 07:05 PM
Just finished Professor Layton and the Last Specter

And just started Dragon IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies.

DoDoRay9000
12-16-2011, 03:27 AM
Demon's Souls

Great game as far as I can tell, but dying and losing souls makes me rage.

Darth Revan
12-16-2011, 07:47 AM
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

aces4839
12-16-2011, 07:49 AM
Atelier Totori.

just listenin to the BGM from the game for now.

CC
12-16-2011, 08:03 AM
Final Fantasy VI Advance, trying to get all the eight Dragons. There are two things I've still never actually done in this game; complete the Fanatic's Tower, and slay all eight Dragons. Trying to finally complete all there is to do in this game :)

aces4839
12-16-2011, 08:05 AM
i completed the tower before. not sure if i got all the dragons or not, though. its likely, no.

impudent urinal
12-16-2011, 08:13 AM
Final Fantasy VI Advance, trying to get all the eight Dragons. There are two things I've still never actually done in this game; complete the Fanatic's Tower, and slay all eight Dragons. Trying to finally complete all there is to do in this game :)

Moogle charm. To beat Magimaster, berserk his ass and then just osmose him to death so his last ditch Ultima won't go with no MP.

Robbotic
12-18-2011, 01:34 AM
TES V: Skyrim
Portal 2

Nostalgia gamer
12-18-2011, 01:38 AM
suikoden 1 for now,but i hope to replay silent hill 1,in an attempt to get the chainsaw for fun and the katana and the ray gun.

Right off the bat,the game scared me.

aces4839
12-18-2011, 05:28 AM
playin Rayman on my ps1. never beaten it before, hope now's the time.

Phil S
12-18-2011, 05:53 AM
I just got my Nintendo Wii back from repair. First Nintendo console that needed it.

I'm playing The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Go Vacation, and Pushmo.
I'm looking for friends to play Mario Kart 7 with, so PM me if you want to be 3DS friends.

ROKUSHO
12-18-2011, 07:12 AM
sword of vermilion, genesis.

Vrykolas
12-18-2011, 03:23 PM
KOTOR 2 and Professor Layton + the Spectre's Call.

BasilCulex
12-18-2011, 03:30 PM
Final Fantasy XIII (PS3)
Grand Theft Auto IV Complete Edition (PS3)
Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword (Wii)
Chrono Trigger (SNES) - Recording
Terraria (PC)

Lots of free time now 2 week vacation~

DoDoRay9000
12-18-2011, 07:38 PM
GoldenEye: Reloaded. A very nice re-imagining.

Maxx Skywalker
12-20-2011, 06:49 AM
Shoulda gotten the Wii version. Just sayin'.

I'm about to finish up Skyward Sword. Getting to the climax pretty soon here actually. I am enjoying it quite a bit, despite my earlier complaints. Nintendo has done it again, albeit in a much more condensed format. Still disappointed that the game didn't go any further than the original three worlds, but they sure legitimized revisiting the same areas you've already explored. This is mainly due to the fact that there are six different dungeons, giving each area an additional place to explore beyond the initial point of insertion. Also, when it comes to the third visit, they alter the environment in some way to make a slightly new experience. Plus those Spirit hunts are fun. Definitely harkens back to Phantom Hourglass'/Spirit Tracks' high tensity situations with unbeatable 1-hit-kill enemies.

I am liking it, and the story is as good as always.

DoDoRay9000
12-20-2011, 08:33 AM
Shoulda gotten the Wii version. Just sayin'.


The graphics the only difference I see between them, so, I'm not really sure why I should've gotten the original one. Is it the controls?

ANGRYWOLF
12-20-2011, 05:00 PM
My first time playing it.I did play ChronoCross years ago.

Looking to get hold of a copy of PS1 Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen.I couldn't believe the Amazon prices for a new/unused one with the box and instructions.
$315-$350 US.
Awful.

Looks like I will be getting a used scratched copy for $25 without a box and instructions.

sheesh.

Nostalgia gamer
12-20-2011, 05:27 PM
Still playing suikoden 1.

Got over 80 chars and rising.

Hey angrywolf? you said chrono trigger in your title,but you are talking about chrono cross?
I heard mixed stuff about crono cross,like it being lightly based on chrono trigger.Do they even touch on chrono triggers story? or is it like ff series?

DoDoRay9000
12-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Heh, Chrono Cross was the first game I've played in the Chrono series. I still haven't even beaten it to this day.

ANGRYWOLF
12-20-2011, 09:45 PM
Still playing suikoden 1.

Got over 80 chars and rising.

Hey angrywolf? you said chrono trigger in your title,but you are talking about chrono cross?
I heard mixed stuff about crono cross,like it being lightly based on chrono trigger.Do they even touch on chrono triggers story? or is it like ff series?

there's a PS1 version of Chrono-Trigger.It's part of Final Fantasy Chronicles and includes ffiv.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Chronicles

Chrono Cross is a somewhat different game and has different characters.It's more of an alternate universe game than a time game.
I do have a copy of it lying around here somewhere though.Been ages since I played it.
Cross really has nothing to do with ChronoTrigger and although Square marketed it as a sequel to Trigger and that has upset some people.
It doesn't bother me although some fans consider Trigger LEGENDARY, up there with FF VI, VII AND FF Tactics and so they don't like Chrono Cross.

Hope that answers your question.

Darth Revan
12-20-2011, 11:13 PM
Taking a break from Skyrim, to replay Mass Effect (and then Mass Effect 2 with the same character)... and have another Shepard prepared for Mass Effect 3 in March next year.

Maxx Skywalker
12-21-2011, 12:57 PM
The graphics the only difference I see between them, so, I'm not really sure why I should've gotten the original one. Is it the controls?

Yes. Everything in the game is built specifically for the Wii. The HD port takes away what made the Wii version great, and simply leaves you with an underwhelming experience. Sure the texture resolution was bumped up a bit, but for an HD experience they end up being subpar.

I heard the online is improved, but I have yet to experience that in Reloaded. I think I'll stay with what I have. If I want to listen to whiny little brats online, I'll play COD.

I finished The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword last night. Spent 67 hours in this game, and I enjoyed the large majority of it. Gripes aside, it was an excellent game, though certainly not as good nor epic as other entries in the series, but excellent nonetheless. Highly recommended.

Hayato_Furinji
12-21-2011, 11:37 PM
Currently flitting between Divinity 2, The Witcher 1&2 and Brink on Steam. And when I get the chance on my PS3 I'm working on Batman Arkham City.

DoDoRay9000
12-22-2011, 07:41 AM
Man, Demon's Souls is the only game that actually makes me want to break my game, punch pillows or sell it to gamestop ALL because of losing souls when I die and not being able to get them back when I die again. *Sigh* I wish I can control my anger. :/ Losing whatever I earn contributes to that, I guess.

Probably going to play Siren: Blood Curse since I finally got it.

ROKUSHO
12-22-2011, 08:57 AM
the closed doors beta of gotham impostors.
a carbon copy of team fortress 2. with a batman theme.
that just makes it the best game ever. fuck chrono trigger, fuck demon souls, fuck zelda oot, fuck everything. gotham impostors is THE FUCKING TSAR BOMBA OF VIDEOGAMES.

DoDoRay9000
12-22-2011, 11:38 AM
I heard of it but it never interested me.

Vrykolas
12-22-2011, 12:43 PM
I love Forbidden Siren 1+2, but I didn't like Blood Curse very much. Just seemed like an inferior remake of the first game. Its not as scary or atmospheric, its much easier and the story isn't nearly as good IMO (as it does differ significantly from the first game, although that said, it does have its moments). The characters are a mixed bag, but I did like Sam and Sol. I still prefer the first 2 games though.

And if you're having trouble with Demon's Souls, you might want to try Dark Souls instead. Its still a hard game, but its a lot more forgiving than the first game, and its much easier to level up, keep your souls or quickly amass new stocks of them etc. If you want to keep at Demon's Souls, then I suggest the Storm Shrine as a good place to grind. The skeletons are tough, but once you get the hang of them, they're easy and give up lots of souls. Also make sure your encumbrance is less than half - the extra movement speed really does make a huge difference.

DoDoRay9000
12-22-2011, 07:57 PM
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking about doing since I can get a lot a souls from that Grim Reaper and his blue henchman. I hate those flying manta rays, though. They love pooping out their spikes at me :p. Oh, and believe it or not, but I think I may have a phobia against the Fool's Idol Archstone level. I'm really scared of extreme heights and every time I walk through those narrow walkways(to me they're narrow) I keep getting constantly scared of falling off and I constantly get disturbed at how high up I am every time I look down or around me.

As for Siren, I've been trying to get Forbidden Siren 2 from Amazon.uk back in September so I can play it on my PS3, but the order canceled on me a couple of days later(don't know why), and now I only have 3.02 euros on my gift card balance cause I ordered Mount & Blade Warband instead. *Sigh* Gonna have to resort to downloading a rom it instead if I can't find a way to get one or two 5 euro amazon cards. I like Blood Curse, though. Not as good and not as scary(can be pretty tense at times when your trying to sneak around the Shibito) as the first Siren, but I think it's good. 7 or 8 out of 10.

@Maxx I'm fine with the controls for Goldeneye: Reloaded. I can't really see myself playing an fps on the Wii because I mostly play light-gun games.

Vrykolas
12-22-2011, 08:11 PM
One consolation about Demon's Souls is that the game knows how to reward you if you put in the hard work. Diligent grinding and forging of new weapons really does pay off in the long run. Levelling up can seem a real pain at times, because you have to get such large amounts of souls after a while, and could lose them all if you're not careful, wasting 20-30 minutes of patient work at a stroke. But if you stick at it, keep buffing yourself up and working away on your weapons, it does eventually get much easier (even just with Sharpstone and Hardstone, you can finish the game quite easily).

Also, given how hard the regular enemies are, the bosses are pushovers for the most part (only the Flamelurker, the Maneaters and the boss of Level 1-4 are really all that tough). And the Archdemons are practically cut scene bosses.

DoDoRay9000
12-22-2011, 08:24 PM
I've made some excellent progress(in terms of my stats and the armor I got and some weapons I got as well) but, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do so that way I won't die so easily. Did I mention how much the Fool's Idol Archstone is the only place that scares me in the game, lol?

Vrykolas
12-23-2011, 12:00 AM
Yeah, I tanked my way through Demon's Souls. No finesse, no messing around with spells or ranged weapons or any of that bother. Just sword, shield, heavy armour, tons of HP, and lots of patience! Dabbled with a few miracles here and there (just basic heals really, although the 'Come back to life on 50% health' is mighty fine.

The Fool's Idol did my head in big time, until I figured out what was going on. I went away and forged a special Greatsword, just so I could properly 'thank' that little swine on the balcony! That's what you get for sparing people's lives... Needless to say, I didn't spare him the second time! You've made a fine choice by playing this game - you should definately play Dark Souls too, because its even better IMO. One of the best games of this or any year.

Nostalgia gamer
12-23-2011, 12:58 AM
I'm close to beating suikoden 1 now.

I'm aiming for 108 stars of destiny.I think i have around 90-95 now,but i could be wrong.

ROKUSHO
12-23-2011, 04:04 AM
the siren games are awful. period.

DoDoRay9000
12-23-2011, 04:50 AM
In your opinion.

Gundam: Federation VS Zeon

ROKUSHO
12-23-2011, 08:53 AM
fact.

they are slow, have a rather uninteresting story, zero scare factor (minus one instance), boring characters (OOH HOW I HATE KYODA AND RISA).
the only redeeming value that upgrades them from horrible to below average is the stealth factor, and the high difficulty in some scenarios. though this can also be viewed as a downside since you are forced to do things one way, leaving no chance for creatively distracting/incapacitating a shibito.
also, mina. shes the best unbeatable boss since nemesis.

DoDoRay9000
12-23-2011, 10:23 AM
fact.

they are slow, have a rather uninteresting story, zero scare factor (minus one instance), boring characters (OOH HOW I HATE KYODA AND RISA).
the only redeeming value that upgrades them from horrible to below average is the stealth factor, and the high difficulty in some scenarios. though this can also be viewed as a downside since you are forced to do things one way, leaving no chance for creatively distracting/incapacitating a shibito.
also, mina. shes the best unbeatable boss since nemesis.

Again, in your opinion, which I politely disagree with.

Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines. Got it as a digital download from Gamestop. :)

William5376
12-23-2011, 10:47 AM
C'mon, Vag. Everyone is doing it.


DoDoRay9000
12-23-2011, 10:51 AM
Vag?

chewey
12-23-2011, 12:53 PM
Skanky checked out the first Siren game while he was here. It didn't look very good. We were going to check out the second game, but we never got around to it.

Nostalgia gamer
12-23-2011, 01:57 PM
Skanky checked out the first Siren game while he was here. It didn't look very good. We were going to check out the second game, but we never got around to it.

Hey guys? is siren that game you have to constantly scrounge for oil and can throw barrels and stuff at the door?
Is there a little girl with pigtails and you have to run away from enemies? I recently saw a lets play of that game.

I finally got the 108 stars of destiny YES HELL YES WOHOOO!!
Now i can get the best ending in suikoden 1

Vrykolas
12-23-2011, 08:10 PM
No, there is no barrel throwing in Siren :D Its a survival horror game where you can use a psychic link of sorts to see through the eyes of the enemies and see where they are, what they are doing etc. The controls are (as they usually are in survival horror games) purposefully made awkward and clumsy to discourage combat and make it harder to escape from enemies.

And I disagree in the strongest possible terms about the story in Siren 1+2. Both games have excellent stories, characters and atmosphere. Sure, Kyoya isn't great, but main characters rarely are in anything really (because they are the standard 'Hero' whereas the others fulfill other roles like betrayer, fallen priest etc etc). Kyoya is no better or worse than most main heroes. The best characters in Siren 1 are Taemon Takeuchi (and Yoriko), Dr Shiro Miyata and Hisako Yao. Siren 2 has a great cast, with the main hero Mamoru again being the only weak link really.

There's loads of great moments - the live autposy scene, the escape from the house of the half shibito family, any level where you're controlling Takeaki Misawa... I love those games to pieces. The gameplay is awkward, but it always was in old survival horror games - its a large part of what made them. Newer games like RE4 and 5 have given you too much control, making them not survival horror games anymore (and people even want to be able to run and gun in Resident Evil now, which will just make it even more of a generic shooter experience).

You played survival horror games for the experience, for the horror, not for gameplay. That said, the sight-jacking was an innovative idea, it did work and gave the series it own identity. Blood Curse was so easy though, that you didn't even need to do it anymore. The time jumping element was also great, because you'd see later events, see characters have obviously met up and decided to work together, but others who were with are now missing. It added an extra incentive to want to see what happened to them, and if they are alright, or have been killed etc.

Nostalgia gamer
12-23-2011, 09:09 PM
Are you sure that the main character isn't a man holding an oil lamp and has to fill it and can like:reinforce the door to try to escape from some evil looking creatures that want to kill you? and light actually attracts these creatures?

I saw some sort of survival horror game where you are holding an oil lamp.

OH yeah:I beat suikoden 1 with the 108 stars of destiny.

ROKUSHO
12-23-2011, 09:11 PM
like i said, the stealth was a great experience. specially when using harumi.
and, like it said, said element of stealth does not leave room for creativity.

DoDoRay9000
12-23-2011, 09:13 PM
I don't know about the scrounge for oil and throw barrels at doors, but yeah, there's a little girl with pigtails where you run away from the Shibito in Siren: Blood Curse(Forbidden Siren: New Translation)

Still haven't finished the first Siren because of how difficult it can be.


Blood Curse was so easy though, that you didn't even need to do it anymore.

I disagree about the sightjacking part in Blood Curse. I've noticed it was a little easy, but it's a little hard for me at the same time(maybe I'm just bad?) but the sightjacking is still useful to me.

Speaking of Resident Evil, I never found any of the games to be remotely scary(probably when I was a younger, I might've found them to be scary, but looking back, you know), but the bgm makes them creepy. I still like the old and new resident evil games(looking forward to RE: Operation: Raccoon City)but I find it pointless to call it survival horror since it isn't really scary(the survival part, I can understand), but, that's just my two cents. :p

Also, Frost Dragons are assholes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWSDkg6leZU

Nostalgia gamer
12-23-2011, 10:50 PM
Have you guys ever heard of a game called:Kuon?

Its some sort of horror where you play your typical japanese character,cept the character is a woman with a knife of some sort slashing demons and picks up cards.

Ok your right,it was:amnesia
I also saw someone play a game on taking pictures of ghosts.

DoDoRay9000
12-23-2011, 11:15 PM
I've heard of Kuon. I'm interested in getting that.

ROKUSHO
12-24-2011, 12:21 AM
Have you guys ever heard of a game called:Kuon?

Its some sort of horror where you play your typical japanese character,cept the character is a woman with a knife of some sort slashing demons and picks up cards.

Ok your right,it was:amnesia
I also saw someone play a game on taking pictures of ghosts.


i have it.
ive said it before and i say it again, thats the only horror game I CANNOT PLAY AT NIGHT.

Vrykolas
12-24-2011, 12:26 AM
Resident Evil 1 has its scary moments, I think - its certainly the only one where the actual zombies are scary at times. The zombie in the closet for example is a classic scene, and the first time one of the V-ACT zombies leapt up and chased me down the corridor at warp speed, I practically curled up into a ball in surprised fright! And the dogs have many scenes that make you jump out of your skin (even when you know its coming, often enough!) As for actual horror, I think that bit in the Umbrella labs, where you find all those bodies hanging up in freezer bags is extremely creepy. But the other RE games aren't very scary, being more about the survival aspect than the horror.

I can't agree about the 'Only one way to do it' element of Siren. I always found lots of ways to finish levels (you have to in some cases, to get the different endings). Siren 2 ups the damage dealing of some of your characters (Takeaki and Yorito both have combat rifles as standard equipment), so they can just blitz the Shibito if they want to. Ikuko also has a special abilty to possess Shibto that she is sight-jacking, so she has more options than just sneaking.

If you're good at timing with the combat, you can take on the Shibito so long as you find any decent weapon. It can still be tough, but I was better at combat than stealth, so I usually adopted the direct approach whenever I could. Some levels obviously do require a specific set of actions (the ones where you have to complete a level in a set time for example). But on most of them, you're free to mix stealth and combat. Just because gun wielding Shibito are tough to deal with, doesn't mean you can't do it.

But mostly, its the story and atmosphere that I play these games for. And I find the story of Siren 1+2 to be absolutely excellent. I love the way the story is told, the characters, the events, everything. I would place Resident Evil 1, RE and Silent Hill 2 above them overall, and I think they're on a par with Code Veronica, but other than that, they trump all other Survival Horrors IMO.

Blood Curse was (for me anyway) much easier, simply because the Shibto have mostly been stripped of their guns. Compared to the first 2 games, hardly any Shibto have psitols and rifles, so its much, much easier to just combat your way through the game, even with rubbish weapons. I actually found the sight jacking near useless in BC, because I just couldn't get used to the split screen effect.

And there is definately no Lanterns, oil, barrel throwing or anything like that in Siren. Its a barrel free zone!

DoDoRay9000
12-24-2011, 08:27 AM
Saints Row: The Third

Pure insanity is the only way I can describe this game. And I love it.

Love the OST as well.

Tanis
12-24-2011, 08:32 AM
[QUOTE=Nostalgia gamer;1878045I also saw someone play a game on taking pictures of ghosts.[/QUOTE]
FATAL FRAME!
*Squee*
Fucking LOVE the series.

They're like Silent Hill, cept more Japanese-ish.



Also, why do I love this game so much?

DoDoRay9000
12-24-2011, 08:33 AM
Also, why do I love this game so much?


Because it's like being a Japanese monster movie :D I haven't played Insect Armageddon, but judging by playing EDF 2017, that's pretty much how I can describe it.

I never expected another EDF game though, cause I thought is was going to one of those "Only in Japan" games.

Tanis
12-24-2011, 08:50 AM
Yeah, me too.
Lucky the 'newish/er' one was released on 360/PS3/PC this time around.

Everything that was good about the 'first' (yeah, I know the series has been around since the SNES) game is improved upon here.
Even the graphics look less, well, dated.

DoDoRay9000
12-24-2011, 10:35 AM
I heard of the old Earth Defense Force game, but I never thought 2017 was part of the series. I guess that and Insect Armageddon are spin-offs?

chewey
12-24-2011, 11:05 AM
Yeah, me too.
Lucky the 'newish/er' one was released on 360/PS3/PC this time around.

Everything that was good about the 'first' (yeah, I know the series has been around since the SNES) game is improved upon here.
Even the graphics look less, well, dated.
Everything? Not really. There's less weapons, levels, monster variety and monsters on screen than there were in the previous game.

I bought the game on Steam not long ago and it's okay. The harder difficulties are more tedious than they are difficult though. The campaign is fucking crazy short too. I'd have replayed it on hard, but even with Rank 5 weapons it just took too long to kill anything and it was really boring.

Nostalgia gamer
12-24-2011, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=Vrykolas;1878125]Resident Evil 1 has its scary moments, I think - its certainly the only one where the actual zombies are scary at times. The zombie in the closet for example is a classic scene, and the first time one of the V-ACT zombies leapt up and chased me down the corridor at warp speed, I practically curled up into a ball in surprised fright! And the dogs have many scenes that make you jump out of your skin (even when you know its coming, often enough!) As for actual horror, I think that bit in the Umbrella labs, where you find all those bodies hanging up in freezer bags is extremely creepy. But the other RE games aren't very scary, being more about the survival aspect than the horror.

Re1 was very scary,and very atmospheric.
It had you tense even when there were less things jumping out at you.
Re3 had a lot of enemies jumping out at you,and far less scares.I admit,nemesis always seems to startle me.(Damm you nemy)

Re4 isn't scary generally speaking.It has a few times where you get a little nervous or even scared,but its pretty much an action game.
The best scares for me,were:The beginning when all the ganado villagers swarm me,salvador and of course the armor guys.

Re code veronica x was the last scary resident evil,and it had a few really scary and spooky moments.
My favorite,is that damm running zombie doctor who mutilates people.Just reading that diary sends shivers up my spine.

Let's Play Resident Evil Code: Veronica X Part 13 Zombie Anatomy - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FfEqVWA98)
Resident Evil Code Veronica OST - Putrid Smell ~ Prison Theme #2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wr3dhNSoVs)
Anatomist's Note - Evil Resource (http://www.evilresource.com/resources.php?search=anatomist&cat=2&gid=4&id=606)

Just read the anatomist note as you watch re code veronica walking through a morgue full of dead bodies and with putrid smell.

Let's Play Resident Evil Code Veronica X Part 7: Alfred's Haunted Mansion - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6DaZUHLOK4)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica OST - The Suspended Doll - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AI3pmwKnMw&feature=related)

I would say that the last one is creepy because he's sick.And the secret revealed makes it even more so obvious.

Tanis,when i saw fatal frame being done,i thought it looked interesting.
The programmers sure do put a lot of ghosts around.I admit:I'd probably be jumpy too if i played it.

Vrykolas
12-24-2011, 08:56 PM
The scariest thing about Code Veronica (which has plenty of regular scares too), is how creepy and insane the Ashfords are. Most of the Umbrella execs and senior agents are pretty crazy, but they're at least only interested in the science or making money etc. The Ashfords are actually sadistic and genuinely raving mad. I spent the game in dread thinking what might happen if one of my characters got caught by them (even Wesker's pretty scared of Alexia!)

It does happen - and the results are typically gruesome. Claire gets away very lightly considering, and she's fortunate as hell that Chris shows up when he does. I think the Ashfords are definately the most out and out 'Evil' people in the whole series.

DoDoRay9000
12-24-2011, 09:13 PM
Especially when Alexander Ashford cross-dresses as his sister and, even creepier, can imitate her voice and her personality to where it's uncanny. I think I remember Alex still pretending to be his sister when Claire revealed his identity. Insane man. I forgot the reason why he cross-dressed as his sister. He's funny whenever he does that fruity laugh of his, though.

Edit: Got Virtual Hydlide from Amazon today. Going to give it a try on the Sega Saturn emulator. :)


ROKUSHO
12-24-2011, 10:43 PM
hydlide....

i am so sorry for you right now.

DoDoRay9000
12-25-2011, 02:18 AM
It's not as bad as people made it out to be imo, I made some good progress. It's a 7/10 to me. I've seen footage the first Hydlide game and I'd take Virtual Hydlide over the first one.

Don't feel sorry for me. :)

Currently at the Volcanic Cave. Love the music at this part.

Btw, I've seen plenty of avatars like that with the derpy eyes and smile, and clenched fists and I have no idea what it is. What is that called exactly?

aces4839
12-26-2011, 07:58 AM
Rayman for PS1. finally beat it.

ROKUSHO
12-26-2011, 09:16 AM
It's not as bad as people made it out to be imo, I made some good progress. It's a 7/10 to me. I've seen footage the first Hydlide game and I'd take Virtual Hydlide over the first one.

Don't feel sorry for me. :)

Currently at the Volcanic Cave. Love the music at this part.

Btw, I've seen plenty of avatars like that with the derpy eyes and smile, and clenched fists and I have no idea what it is. What is that called exactly?

the internet. i think theres a page bout it in knowyourmeme but my pc is slow as fuck right now. check it yourself.
also, once youre done with that horrible game, can you sell/donate it to me? as horrible as that game is, im hellbent on getting all NTSC saturn games. if i buy sports games, i can buy virtual hydlide.

guobend_sing
12-26-2011, 12:05 PM
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. Quaff two potions of healing while playing a XL6 Minotaur Monk and still get two-shotted by an ogre....yeah.

DoDoRay9000
12-26-2011, 01:08 PM
Well, I don't really sell/donate games to anyone, but you can get it from amazon here. Amazon.com: Virtual Hydlide: Video Games (http://www.amazon.com/Virtual-Hydlide-sega-saturn/dp/B00002STVH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324901255&sr=8-1)If you don't care about it coming with a case, I recommend the first seller in the used section. If you want it to come with the case, then go with the fourth seller.

Also, I'm currently looking up information on that avatar and it's going to take me awhile.

Edit: Going to play Resident Evil 5, finally. :D

Nostalgia gamer
12-26-2011, 09:03 PM
I'm playing lost odyssey.

Good game.

Oh yeah:pretty fun to watch the joker in action in arkham assylum.

HimeKakyuu
12-27-2011, 03:22 PM
Skyrim. Biggest timesuck ever.



Edit: Going to play Resident Evil 5, finally. :D

If you have it on 360 and need a co-op partner to kick Wesker in the face, pm me. I never mind running through that game again.

ROKUSHO
12-27-2011, 11:23 PM
me neither.

Vrykolas
12-28-2011, 01:08 AM
That's because RE5 is a perfectly good game, despite what people say. History will redeem it in the fan's eyes.

ROKUSHO
12-28-2011, 04:43 AM
it is a good game.
but its an average RE game. i did like the story, the epic conclusion to the epic story.
i did hate: the inclusion of sheva. because the first previews showed chris alone (even in scene where sheva appears). then everyone goes RACISM! and sheva is magically put in.
thats the reason why i hate sheva (no, it has nothing to do with her being black.)

DoDoRay9000
12-28-2011, 05:54 PM
I had no problems with Sheva. Besides, she's helped me countless times and I helped her too, so I have no reason to hate her. I actually love having her by my side :p.

I agree that the racism card that was pulled was extremely stupid. In fact, if there's anyone that still thinks that RE5 is racist, they're idiots.

Which reminds me of a parody from DigitalPh33r: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaQmoC-vMm8

Arigeitsu159
12-28-2011, 07:38 PM
I had no problems with Sheva. Besides, she's helped me countless times and I helped her too, so I have no reason to hate her. I actually love having her by my side :p.[/url]

Agreed. She was very useful to have in the game for me. I know a lot of people said she used First Aids and Herbs in silly scenarios, but I never experienced an issue with it.

DoDoRay9000
12-28-2011, 08:39 PM
I think from what I remember, she only used herbs or first aid sprays when I was hurt bad(around yellow or red, I think).

Saints Row The Third

aclors
12-28-2011, 10:24 PM
Ugggh. Can't believe that I ended up only being able to take Yuzu's route in SMT: Devil Survivor Overclocked yet AGAIN. This time, I screwed up because I was trying to unlock Pazuzu, but I'm definitely not doing the 8th day. D<

aces4839
12-28-2011, 10:26 PM
Back to the Future: The Game for the ps3. made it to the last episode already.

Tanis
12-29-2011, 12:02 AM
space marine

crysis 2

Chrono Cross (PSN)

portal 2

modnations: racer

Vrykolas
12-29-2011, 01:02 AM
After RE4's reboot/reimagining etc of the gameplay, story and to an extent characters, I think RE5 was about as good a RE installment as we could have hoped for. After the travesty of RE4 removing Umbrella from the equation, off-screen and in such an abrupt hand wavy fashion in the opening credits, it was good to have some of the story arcs resolved properly. We saw Sir Spencer at last, Chris and Jill returned after lengthy absences, Wesker got his oats at last... I don't really think we could have asked for much more in a single installment.

As for Sheva, I thought she was okay. I wasn't too sure about the partner thing either at first, but it allows for bigger hordes of enemies to attack you (the bit where that mob swarms you after the beheading near the start, is awesome for example). And having her with you pays off later in the Chris/Sheva Vs Wesker/Jill fight in the tomb. That's probably my favourite part of that whole game.

I just honestly don't understand why people like RE4 over RE5. RE4 has retarded sequences like that giant statue chasing you and monks driving motorised drills through their monastry corridors to try and crush you... The whole thing was just absurd, and despite being about zombie apocalypse etc, RE isn't usually as daft as that.

DoDoRay9000
12-29-2011, 01:41 AM
Those parts didn't bother me in RE4, honestly.


I just honestly don't understand why people like RE4 over RE5

I like both of them(I like RE5 a little more than RE4 but yeah).To me, I think it's because they complained about Chris being too muscular or something(I mean, as I imagine, he's probably been working out a lot so he can be ready when he's needed for another mission), they couldn't handle the fact that you have a reliable partner(on my experience), they just lost their touch by waiting for RE5 to come out and not play RE4, or they're mad that(don't click if you don't like being spoiled, but you're probably going to anyways) Wesker died at the end :p

Vrykolas
12-29-2011, 01:56 AM
I just felt it was stepping over the line from creepy insanity into ridiculous farce. Spencer having a crazy deathtrap mansion because he's so paranoid of people stealing his secrets, but wants it to look artistic and stylish is fine. And the Ashfords having a carousel in their loft and thinking they are a fairytale Queen and Prince etc is a kind of insanity that I can believe in.

But making a giant statue of yourself, because you hate the fact that you are small, then making the statue able to move and stomp and attack people... That's just nonsense IMO. And the whole 'Kidnap the President's Daughter' thing is so cheesy. Its the kind of plot you get in films with Chuck Norris or even Hulk Hogan (Assault on Devil's Island anyone?)

DoDoRay9000
12-30-2011, 01:53 AM
And the whole 'Kidnap the President's Daughter' thing is so cheesy Cheesy's what I like. :)

Was playing Disaster Report, now Tenchu Z. Also, this site seems to like taking a dump on us every now and then.

Also, this is on the site on my side. Not sure if this is happening to anyone else.

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aces4839
12-30-2011, 05:55 AM
Played Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon. It's harder than Chocobo's Dungeon 2, no doubt about it. I'm already gettin overpowered by the damn enemies.

the music is very good, though.

DoDoRay9000
12-31-2011, 12:10 AM
Going to try and get Echo: Secrets of the Lost Cavern to work on Windows 7.

jjohnni
12-31-2011, 01:50 AM
call of juarez bound in blood

Vrykolas
12-31-2011, 02:01 AM
I'm all for cheesy moments in games, but only where it is appropriate (i.e not in established franchises that previously were not cheesy). And before you say anything about 'The Master of Unlocking', yes that was legendary, but it was also unintentionally hilarious, as was the FMV intro. I still love both of those things, but I don't associate them with Resident Evil - the original version of that game is its own seperate thing really. The remake is superior in every way, and cuts all of that stuff out - which was sad in a way, but was for the best overall.

And again, that stuff worked so well precisely because it was unintentional. The makers of the original did all that FMV and dialogue and thought 'Yep, we've nailed that', whereas everyone in the western world creased up in fits of hysteria at how ludicrous it was. RE4's outlandish moments meanwhile, feel forced and completely out of tone for the series. I mean, you've got a castle with a chamber filled with lava, where monks ride in on giant clockwork dragon heads, equipped with flamethrowers... Can you imagine that thing getting constructed?

Worker: So Guv'nor, we've got a couple of trucks coming in tomorrow with the lava, imported from that volcano like you wanted. But the platform with the giant cog wheels won't be here til next week...

Not that RE5 is totally off the hook for this either. The bit with the 'Lost City of the Incas' in RE5 is incredibly daft too. It was just about believeable (but still extremely far-fetched), until they started shooting lasers at you through those lens. Pound for pound though, RE4 has far more of this sort of thing, and its entirely unwelcome. Hopefully, Revelations will be a little more down to earth, but I'm not holding my breath on that.

DoDoRay9000
12-31-2011, 03:42 AM
The Movies: Stunts & Effects.

Tanis
12-31-2011, 04:28 AM
Wipeout HD: Fury

I couldn't resist....I had that cash in PSN and was like, 'we'll, it's fucking WIPEOUT!'.

ROKUSHO
12-31-2011, 05:21 AM
homefront, ps3.

Vrykolas
12-31-2011, 05:41 AM
I'm thinking about ordering Morrowind, because I've got my old Xbox out again at the moment, and I've never played Elder Scrolls 3. I've heard its the best Elder Scrolls, and I'm someone who can quite happily play old games and accept them for the period pieces that they are. I don't know... Anyone feel strongly about Morrowind - just a 'Its great' or 'Its Shit' would do?

DoDoRay9000
12-31-2011, 05:50 AM
I haven't finished it, but it is a great game as far as I can tell. If you don't mind getting lost trying to do a quest, then you're good, because I hate losing my way or not knowing where to go exactly depending on the quest. :P

Vrykolas
12-31-2011, 05:57 AM
That kind of thing doesn't bother me - it actually really bugs me that modern games just let your character know exactly where to find artifacts and missing people etc that they would have absolutely no clue about. But its a great game, you say? Well that chimes with what I've heard... hmm. I think I will give it a go in the new year.

Cheers.

DoDoRay9000
12-31-2011, 06:07 AM
Yeah. It's also pretty hard in comparison to Oblivion, mainly because of the way the combat is and the way the sense of the direction is. I also recommend you get the Game of the Year edition if you're getting the xbox version, because it includes Tribunal and BloodMoon.

ROKUSHO
12-31-2011, 06:18 AM
its not the lack of a pointer on the game, its the massive amount of walking and pretty "dead" looking landscapes that get you lost.
be it not for the map that came with the game, i would not have found half the place i needed to go.
i was once told "go west to balmora". i huged the coast when i got tired of traveling, i looked at my map. i was waay past balmora.

Tanis
12-31-2011, 07:01 AM
TES3 doesn't NEED mods, but it SHOULD be played with mods.
Get it on PC, if you can.

ROKUSHO
12-31-2011, 10:11 AM
mods for what, to make it oblivion-like graphicwise?
thats why i love my xbox port, im playing the game as intended and im not in the least bothered by its utterly awful graphics (on the characters. everything is awesome).

mods for dicking around? thats why i bought the game a second time, this time for pc.

i booted it up with a lot of mods and now everyone is a half naked female blond nord.
then i murdered everyone.


also, playing fatal frame 2 on xbox.
shit's scary as fuck at night.
i live in the outskirts of the city, so theres virtually not a single noise when i lay in bed. so when i play scary games with my headphones at 3 am, shit gets massively scary

Tanis
12-31-2011, 11:09 AM
I like the 'better graphics', not TES4 level, just smoother.

There are also mods to smarter AI, more vegetation to pluck, better balanced game play, and this REALLY cool 'castle' that has a room for just about all your needs.

Boomer_13
12-31-2011, 07:43 PM
Still playing Batman: Arkham City. Just can't seem to get enough of it, it's really that good.

+ Hidden & Dangerous 2 & Thief 3: Deadly Shadows

DoDoRay9000
12-31-2011, 08:58 PM
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles

I really like how the characters are actually working together

Maxx Skywalker
01-01-2012, 08:53 AM
And the whole 'Kidnap the President's Daughter thing is so cheesy. Its the kind of plot you get in films with Chuck Norris or even Hulk Hogan (Assault on Devil's Island anyone?)

Resident Evil is the epitome of cheesiness. People hold the originals in such high regard, they forget how really cheesy they were. In fact, all of George Romero's earlier zombie flicks are cheesy, so I have no idea what you could be possibly thinking. Really, anyone who takes the RE series too seriously should take a second look at themselves and sort some things out, because I don't believe it was ever meant to be taken seriously. Just look at the convoluted plot with as many holes as a slice of Swiss cheese.

To that end, I really enjoyed the fourth and fifth entries in the series, and I see the original PSone titles as completely unplayable. Controls were refined in later updates and entries, but I don't find controlling your character like a tank as being fun. Sorry.

In recent news, I was playing the Wait Until I Have the Money to Play the Game I Want to Play game, but I spent all my paycheck on bills, because I figured that'd be the appropriate adult thing to do. So instead I decided to just start playing The Matrix: Path of Neo for the PS2. I had the PC version at one point in time, however the game was unplayable to the point where it crashed every time I tried to get somewhere in the game, and of course the aforementioned lag issues. Even though the game looks much better on PC, I decided to give it another shot on the console version, because there's a greater chance that the game will actually run.

I am enjoying the experience, though it seems it's not nearly as polished as EtM was, if you even want to consider that game as polished. I am also not afraid to admit that the game is kicking my butt. More specifically, the Agents are, and the convoluted mission 'objectives'. It's still fun to beat up nameless cops as Neo. Ah good times. I'd say this game is largely underrated considering the large majority of poor reviews it had received, but it really isn't that bad of a game.

Vrykolas
01-02-2012, 02:03 AM
I couldn't disagree more about Resident Evil being cheesy. Left 4 Dead, Dead Rising, Evil Dead etc are cheesy, Resident Evil went for genuine scares and atmosphere. In RE, your characters don't use improvised weapons, they use guns. The zombies aren't played for laughs, with comedy dismemberments, and them trying to open doors and bumping their heads etc etc.

I just don't know how you can compare RE to those other things. They are embracing the silliness of zombie films, in a way RE never does. RE is closer to something like Coma. Its proper horror, not shlock. The characters don't go around cracking one liners, and flirting in the middle of firefights or any of that nonsense. The original 3 games are (by and large) serious affairs that try and show what it would actually be like. Shinji Mikami commented that the only place they couldn't really go in making it more authentic (at that time anyway) was putting in child zombies.

Games like Code: Veronica and Zero are noticeably more camp at times, but they still play the horror up and they still never stray into slapstick. Horror films are (and pretty much always have been) 95% exploitation and cheese. It has been well said that games like Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Siren, Fatal Frame etc are *far* scarier and more sensibly written than practically anything committed to film. Stepping over the line into pure farce is rarely a good thing, you have to know just when and how. Look at how Ghostbusters 2 turned out - both films try to be spooky comedies, but whereas the first is a masterclass of serious and silly and one of the best films ever made, the second one is just stupid, lame and a disgrace to the original. That's how I feel about RE4 compared to at least the first 2 RE games.

It doesn't mean a game can't have lighter moments or be larger than life at times. We were talking about Shadowman a while back, and that's a great mix of horror and adventure. It might have some out there moments as RE does, but I'd still say its scarier and cooler than just about any horror movie I've seen.

DoDoRay9000
01-02-2012, 03:38 AM
I don't see how Ghostbusters 2's a disgrace to the original. I think it's great in it's own right. Not as good as the first one, but it's still great to me. Maybe a lot of things just don't bother me when it comes to movies and games(except dying in games of course and when something doesn't work or stops working in games :P).

Fable 3.

ROKUSHO
01-02-2012, 03:56 AM
i never felt code veronica was campy. in fact, i think it was very dark.
sure, theres steve's antics, but remember hes 17, he thinks with his dick. (and staring at claires ass every time they are together proves it). barring steve, the whole probably-wincest bewteen alfred and alexia, the WTFish history of their family, is creepy as fuck.
be it not for the massive backtracking you had to do at the start, this would have been the perfect RE game to this day.
CVs story is just excellent.

and im playing mw3 on survival.

aces4839
01-02-2012, 08:19 AM
played some Jak & Daxter: The Lost Frontier. it's ok, but the helicat is rather hard to control.

Vrykolas
01-03-2012, 01:26 AM
I'm not saying Code Veronica is a bad game - far from it, because its one of my favourite RE games. Hell, its one of my favourite games period. But the whole carousel, cross dressing, Steve's jumping through windows with desperado double gun action, and the extremely OTT voice acting for Ashford and Wesker suggested to me that the crew were slightly more relaxed and willing to experiment with how far they could push it. And like I said before, its a fine line to tread. I think they do it perfectly in Code Veronica, because its a great mix of fun, horror and action working seamlessly.

But in RE4, it was too much. Each new sequence was 'Check *this* crazy shit, guys!' and it went from being pretty cool at the start, to just being farcical with monks manning hidden gatling gun platforms that pop up out of the floor whilst other monks pop in from Scooby Doo revolving door secret passages, armed with rocket launchers. In the early games, you could at least believe that the situation were true to how it would be, if this sort of thing were possible to begin with. The characters are freaked out by what's going on, and behave as they should in such an extreme situation. In RE4, Leon is too busy cracklng cheesy one liners and making jokes about Salazar's height to have anything like a normal reaction. He doesn't seem at all surprised by the utterly bizarre things that are happening, like its an everyday occurance for people to be firing medieval siege catapults at him, and setting giant walking statues after him.

RE4 just doesn't ring true in the way the early games did - the bit where Saddler grows that huge tail thing to spear Luis and then retracts it under his cloak is just so stupid... Its funny sure, but this kind of ultra campy 'Rocky Horror Show' antics is something that I don't really want in a proper RE game. But that's how Mikami has been going for years now. He kept it under control in the early games, but I don't think its a big surprise to see him working these days on games like Bayonetta. And that's fine, but its not what drew me to Resident Evil, and frankly I'm glad he's no longer in charge of the RE games. I feel the same way about Hideo Kojima by the way. It just seems that the longer they go on, the more camp and outrageous these guy's games become. But then, they are Japanese after all, and the Japs can only restrain themselves so long, before they make games like Final Fantasy X-2, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Solid 4, Disgaea etc etc.

ROKUSHO
01-03-2012, 01:40 AM
well, chris didnt exactl piss his pants when facing the majini.
the wya i see it, the reason leon is calm and collected (like chris) is because he already lived a similar experience before.
however, i dont think sheva did.

Vrykolas
01-03-2012, 02:08 AM
I'm not talking about a reaction to the horror (I mean in RE4, what horror is there?) I'm talking about the utterly crazy stuff that's happening. In RE2, he may have been getting attacked by zombies and various BOWs, but it was still a fairly realistic experience. He sure as hell didn't have to face all the ludicrous mayhem that goes on in RE4. And his character is not developed - its outright changed into something else. He went from from a decent guy who stays calm under fire to some kind of James Bond rip off, complete with cheesy quips, gadgets, even his own verison of Ms Moneypenny! He has bond girls, vehicles, bond villains with OTT accents ('Meester Kennedy...') It was just painful - RE tearing up its story and characters just for the sake of ripping off Bond and selling out its survival horror roots for mass market action cash...

As for Chris and Sheva, I think they're adequately rattled from time to time when huge mobs of guys show up and chase them. But you're not wrong. The thing is, the precedent had already been set by RE4 by that time. That was where the series was being pushed. Its calmer and generally saner than RE4, but it does go off the rails at time, I freely admit that. Chris' new 'hulked up' image, punching boulders in lava pools he is standing right next to (rocks don't float in lava, you cannot stand anywhere near lava), and Wesker's Matrix antics etc etc. Some of it works, some of it doesn't, but all of it is better than anything in RE4 IMO. Because at least it is in service to a story that is actually relevant to the series, and isn't jumping monks and evil midgets with bulldozers and rocket launchers...

Neither game is scary in the truest sense, but RE5 is unsettling at times IMO. That into sequence where you're walking down the street with all the locals giving you the evil eye is genuinely creepy IMO. The game feels more true to life, and that ups the tension for me. I felt tense plenty of times during that game, but I never did in RE4, because it was just so daft all the time.

I should also point out again that I don't think RE4 is a bad game. I actually think its a fantastic game, but I hate it as a RE game. If it had just had a different name and not been a RE game, I would have had absolutely no issues with it at all. Because then it would be free to be its own thing and not take RE in a direction which has ultimately been extremely harmful IMO.

Because if someone produced the greatest 3D boxing game ever, with great looking fighters and variety of moves etc, then called it Mass Effect 3, I wouldn't be too impressed as a fan of that series. Same if they produced the legitimately greatest ever football management game and put Halo 4 on the front. RE4 was not a RE game - RE is a survival horror series, not a 3D shooter series. It had its own tone, its own story, its own identity, and RE4 killed all of that.

DoDoRay9000
01-03-2012, 03:12 AM
Fight Night Round 3

Yamato is pissing me off so much. Going to play El Shaddai instead.


RE4 was not a RE game - RE is a survival horror series, not a 3D shooter series. It had its own tone, its own story, its own identity, and RE4 killed all of that.

I know I may not sound like a fan when I say this,(I don't really consider myself a fan of anything, mainly because of fanboys/fangirls whining and crying about every change made, like Resident Evil or anything else)I personally don't care about any of the changes made to RE4 and the newer ones. RE4 is still a Resident Evil game to me, though. Speaking of which, is there any news of a release date for RE: Operation: Raccoon City? I can't wait for it.

Vrykolas
01-03-2012, 05:00 AM
I don't know when its out, but I'm quite looking forward to that too. I'm hoping that a RE game that finally has proper zombies in it again, will be a big hit and convince Capcom to put them back in the series again. It just doesn't feel right without them. I can't say that I'm that thrilled about the general idea of the game though - we already had Deus Ex: Human Revolution doing the whole FOXHOUND team of evil guys thing, and it just highlighted how much better it was in Metal Gear Solid.

But... I can't help but hope its good. I'm not ashamed to say that I am a RE fan through and through, so although my better judgement says they should stop making them, I'm still pretty excited about Op: RC and even Revelations (not convinced I want to buy a 3DS for that though, because the 3DS is looking more and more like a dead console every day).

DoDoRay9000
01-03-2012, 09:38 AM
Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines

The Ocean House place scared me so bad. ;(

ROKUSHO
01-04-2012, 01:00 AM
because the 3DS is looking more and more like a dead console every day).

you mispelled vita in that sentence.
really, the vita is dead in japan (comparatively speaking)

Vrykolas
01-04-2012, 01:15 AM
Well, the Vita will probably fail too, but I was expecting that to flop anyway. I mean, do they really expect people to pay 200 quid for a portable? Did they learn nothing from the PS3 launch?! If you charge an unreasonable price on the principle that the buyer is getting a lot of expensive tech, the answer will still be 'We don't have that kind of money!' Especially with the global economy being what it is. What the hell did Sony expect?!

But the 3DS is looking dead and buried in my area. In all the shops, the 3DS has just 1, maybe 2 small shelves, and the rest of the display is made of DS games (which look identical to the 3DS ones until you get up close and see what they're doing). The shops have plainly given up on it, because its getting the same kind of shelf space that the Gamecube and PSP got before they died. Unless some kind of miracle happens (i.e lots and lots of great games come out, instead of the absolute zero games we have now), the 3DS is done. Its still only got the old classics like Lylat Wars and Ocarina of Time. And I'm not buying a 3DS for those, because I've already played them!

3D anything has a bad rep at the moment, because people just think 3D is a big con, and a waste of time and money. Combine this with poor support from stores, the lack of any decent new games, opposition from phones and the like as portable gaming mediums and the fact this things tend to snowball pretty quickly (i.e everyone has made up their minds that something has failed, and don't get one, thus confirming it), and the 3DS looks like a sucker's bet at the moment.

chewey
01-04-2012, 03:08 PM
It's really weird to say the 3DS is dying now that it's really starting to pick up steam. It's now doing really well in the US (sold more than the DS and the Wii in the same amount of time) and pretty good in Japan. No idea how it's doing in Europe and Australia, but overall they're pushing enough for it to be nowhere near dead. Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 are selling really well too.

As for there being no games, that's starting to change. We're starting to see some support on the 3DSWare side of things with Pushmo, Nano Assault, Mighty Switch Force and a port of VVVVVV. As for box releases, there's SM3DL and MK7 obviously. Everything else worthwhile on the system is a port though, yeah: OoT3D, Star Fox 64, Cave Story 3D and SMT: Devil Survivor. Other titles are coming up in the next couple months but I can't remember what they are.

It's doing pretty well now, better than it probably should be doing. The Vita is doing a lot worse, but we'll see how it goes once it releases in the US.

Nostalgia gamer
01-04-2012, 04:59 PM
[QUOTE=Vrykolas;1883327]I'm not talking about a reaction to the horror (I mean in RE4, what horror is there?) I'm talking about the utterly crazy stuff that's happening. In RE2, he may have been getting attacked by zombies and various BOWs, but it was still a fairly realistic experience. He sure as hell didn't have to face all the ludicrous mayhem that goes on in RE4. And his character is not developed - its outright changed into something else. He went from from a decent guy who stays calm under fire to some kind of James Bond rip off, complete with cheesy quips, gadgets, even his own verison of Ms Moneypenny! He has bond girls, vehicles, bond villains with OTT accents ('Meester Kennedy...') It was just painful - RE tearing up its story and characters just for the sake of ripping off Bond and selling out its survival horror roots for mass market action cash...

Re4 at least had a few scary moments,or nervous moments at least.
Re5 was just repetitive as hell.remember that level with the usage of mirrors to focus the laser in the direction of the elevator? That scene felt like something from an adventure game,and not a survival horror.

Arigeitsu159
01-04-2012, 06:31 PM
I'm not talking about a reaction to the horror (I mean in RE4, what horror is there?) I'm talking about the utterly crazy stuff that's happening. In RE2, he may have been getting attacked by zombies and various BOWs, but it was still a fairly realistic experience. He sure as hell didn't have to face all the ludicrous mayhem that goes on in RE4. And his character is not developed - its outright changed into something else. He went from from a decent guy who stays calm under fire to some kind of James Bond rip off, complete with cheesy quips, gadgets, even his own verison of Ms Moneypenny! He has bond girls, vehicles, bond villains with OTT accents ('Meester Kennedy...') It was just painful - RE tearing up its story and characters just for the sake of ripping off Bond and selling out its survival horror roots for mass market action cash...

Re4 at least had a few scary moments,or nervous moments at least.
Re5 was just repetitive as hell.remember that level with the usage of mirrors to focus the laser in the direction of the elevator? That scene felt like something from an adventure game,and not a survival horror.

It was no different than any other puzzle in any earlier RE game.

DoDoRay9000
01-04-2012, 07:07 PM
Ninety-Nine-Nights

Going to try and finally defeat the King of Nights.

aces4839
01-04-2012, 08:35 PM
played Mortal Kombat for the PS3. i beat the story in about 6 hours. Shao Khan was brutal, both fights i had to fight him at. the tag team of Goro and that cat creature was also tough. there were other tough battles as well.

DoDoRay9000
01-04-2012, 09:29 PM
Finally beaten The King of Nights. Screw you Q Entertainment for making a great game with a nearly impossible boss. What were they thinking, seriously!? It's like they expected so much out of you to beat The King of Nights with no problem.

Oh, and ROKUSHO, have you looked up anymore info about that avatar type?

Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires

Darth Revan
01-05-2012, 12:37 AM
... I still need to finish Ninety Nine Nights... it's sitting on my shelf with a layer of dust on it at the moment. Playing Jade Empire... good game.

ROKUSHO
01-05-2012, 01:26 AM
me too actually.
but after beating the game and finding out if you saved over your original save with another character, the original stats are lost. i raged VERY VERY HARD (and loud, fus ro dah loud) i just lost interest.

over the time, i beaten it again with all characters, but its a choir to level them.

DoDoRay9000
01-05-2012, 03:34 AM
Yeah, I accidentally did that with Aspharr, so I have to go through his missions again. I think that happened with Myfee too, but I don't remember.

Vrykolas
01-05-2012, 03:37 AM
In the early RE games, the puzzles were specifically created on the orders of Sir Oswell Spencer to create a mansion that looked stylish but was deadly to intruders. You find the diaries of the architect explaining this etc. The laser light thing in RE5 was part of that whole lost city level which was just absurd from start to finish. There's no comparison IMO. Its pulpy Indiana Jones/Uncharted stuff, that is light years from what RE is about. And RE4 has no scary moments - it doesn't.

As for the 3DS... well, we'll see won't we? I can only speak to what I see in my area, and that console is totally finished here. The games you mentioned are hardly ones that are getting people's blood racing, and sales picking up isn't going to mean very much in the end, if there's still nothing to play on it. I'd argue that the Vita has a much stronger line up of games, and if it wasn't for the outrageous price, I'd buy one.

chewey
01-05-2012, 06:06 AM
The games I mentioned are getting people interested though. I don't want to sound like a 3DS fanboy because I have no intention to pick up the system until the first revision, but to say it's dead now (and not when things were looking dire mid-2011) is really weird. I just can't see how it's dying when they're pushing a lot of 3DSs and SM3DL and MK7 are selling really well.

And from what I've read, the 3DS is starting to do pretty well in Australia too.

The Vita does appear to have a stronger lineup of games, at least for its US release. The launch titles weren't great in Japan.

Nostalgia gamer
01-05-2012, 02:24 PM
In the early RE games, the puzzles were specifically created on the orders of Sir Oswell Spencer to create a mansion that looked stylish but was deadly to intruders. You find the diaries of the architect explaining this etc. The laser light thing in RE5 was part of that whole lost city level which was just absurd from start to finish. There's no comparison IMO. Its pulpy Indiana Jones/Uncharted stuff, that is light years from what RE is about. And RE4 has no scary moments - it doesn't.

As for the 3DS... well, we'll see won't we? I can only speak to what I see in my area, and that console is totally finished here. The games you mentioned are hardly ones that are getting people's blood racing, and sales picking up isn't going to mean very much in the end, if there's still nothing to play on it. I'd argue that the Vita has a much stronger line up of games, and if it wasn't for the outrageous price, I'd buy one.

The whole re5 game,didn't feel like a resident evil at all,but re4 didn't either.
Re5 was even less an resident evil game though.

As for your criticism on ghost busters 2:I really liked the movie,i think you were unfair.Both movies are classics.

Nostalgia gamer
01-05-2012, 08:33 PM
iMelancholic

Currently working through Lost Odyssey, my favourite Xbox RPG to date. I'm also playing Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 - I really wanna play well with Phoenix Wright but he's so hard to use...


Lost odyssey is quite good,but i think that seth and jansen need more development so far.
Kaim seems like the most developed,also:I wasn't that inspired by the gameplay.
The way the story unravels from a different amount of dreams that you uncover,is actually quite nice.

Vrykolas
01-06-2012, 06:31 AM
The Wii sold better than anything, but that doesn't mean I consider it a success. It all comes down to the games - if it gets great games, then I'm there. If it doesn't, then I'm not. Simple as that, and at the moment, there is nothing that would convince me to buy one. Nintendo shafted DS users big time and the memories of that are going to be hard to erase. I want proof that there is going to be a steady stream of games that will appeal to 'real' gamers (or however you want to term us).

Ghostbusters 2 is an abomination. The statue of liberty... just no.

RE5 at least deals with the main story of the series and gives resolution. RE4 was a completely unrelated side story, with a character who had until then, been considered one of the lesser characters of importance. It was a reboot, and to do that by killing off the core story of Umbrella, betrayed the promise at the end of every RE game that preceded it (they all end with the heroes heading off to finish Umbrella for good). Fans stayed loyal for years waiting for that payoff, and then got shafted. RE5 at least made some effort to tie up the threads and staunch the wounds that RE4 has ripped open as it pulled away from everything the series was.

And come on... Kaim?! That guy has the charisma of a broken brick that's been standing in a puddle for weeks. Jansen meanwhile is the clear star of that game - by far the best character. Just a shame he (and all the mortal characters) are so awful in the actual game, compared to the Immortals.

impudent urinal
01-06-2012, 06:42 AM
(they all end with the heroes heading off to finish Umbrella for good)
So they were all the same with no resolution is what your telling me. God forbid something grow and change. Did you even play the game? Umbrella isn't totally absent and the way it was taken down was actually somewhat realistic in that it would be bureaucracy and stock prices that brought it down not some renegades charging their headquarters. RE 4 was a great addition to the series. Starting fresh allowed it to be great. RE 5 is good, but anything it has is thanks to 4.

As to them not being like RE games... The characters still controlled like a tank and it had all the insignia keyholes and cheesy horror of a B-movie like all the others. Anyone bitching about that is doing it just to give their tongue exercise.

Vrykolas
01-06-2012, 06:49 AM
By your logic, the early games could have resolved the Umbrella story, by tacking it onto the end. They did something like that in the movie 'Moon', and it was universally derided as the biggest cop out ending ever, to an otherwise fantastic modern sci-fi movie. So no, I don't agree with you at all. When you build it up for that long, it deserves actual payoff, not some 'Okay, forget about that now...' in the first couple of minutes.

If Mass Effect 3 started with 'The Reapers finally attacked, we beat them, and now there's a new threat...' you can bet it wouldn't go down well. RE4 betrayed the promise it was making on its story. RE5 filled in the blanks, cleaning up after RE4's mess.

I mean, I must have missed all the fans who were saying 'You know what I want in a sequel - for them to ditch the Umbrella thing and do something else entirely'. Because then its something else entirely, which is what RE4 is. And get off your high horse - I already said that I think RE4 is a fantastic game. What more do you want?! Blood?

Anyway, I think I should knock this on the head now. Start of the year, and I've already managed to disagree with just about everybody about everything. Not exactly the way I was hoping this year would go! Its all just my opinion, so if you disagree then that's fine.

chewey
01-06-2012, 06:50 AM
I'd consider the Wii a success. It sold well and so did a decent chunk of its games. It has plenty of fun exclusives, too.

Anyway, if a console is selling well and games for it are selling well, it's not dead. It makes no difference whether the platform interests you personally or not.

I don't know how Nintendo shafted DS users. That isn't really a commonly held sentiment either. The DS has a huge library of games.

impudent urinal
01-06-2012, 06:52 AM
They didn't ditch it, they added a twist on the story to keep it going without becoming stale which the series definitely was. Umbrella is still the villain. They are still teasing your precious "payoff" that you so desperately want.

Vrykolas
01-06-2012, 06:57 AM
The DS has a huge library of games indeed - but how many of the great ones are from years following the Wii's emergence as the leading console? Nintendo just forgot about the DS man, its been dying a slow death for years. It used to be my favourite console of this gen, but suddenly it stopped getting good games. In the last couple of years, I've bought the Layton games and that's it! And believe me, I've been looking for games to buy on it, but there just hasn't been anything out there.

We can each only tell it as we see it. And like I say, round here the 3DS is considered a flop and a joke, not helped by the shops increasingly shrinking shelf space for it.

chewey
01-06-2012, 07:24 AM
I don't really think the DS's golden age was Nov. 2004 -> whenever it became apparent the Wii was going to be incredibly popular (which was almost immediately, right?). I'd say a lot of good games came out between 2007 and now. It definitely slowed down in 2011, but even it wasn't so bad. Ghost Trick, Professor Layton, Pokemon White/Black, Dragon Quest 6, Kirby Mass Attack and Radiant Historia all came out last year and they're all at least good. Some are incredible, like Ghost Trick. There's probably a few lesser titles or DSi games I'm missing. Aliens Infestation and Mighty Milky Way are both probably good (being that they're WayForward games), but I haven't played them.

And keep in mind it's a little over 7 years old at this point and its successor is on the market. It's a little unfair to expect a massive push behind the console.

Edit: I had a dig in my brain to try and think of what came out for it in 2010.
999, Etrian Odyssey 3, Dragon Quest 9, FF The 4 Heroes of Light, Unwound Future, Shantae: Risky's Revenge, Pokemon HeatGold/SoulSilver, Picross 3D, SMT: Strange Journey, Ace Attorney Investigations (which wasn't as good as good as AA1-3, but I wouldn't call it bad). Those are all pretty good games, man.

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 08:02 AM
Dynasty Warriors 7.

I'm such a sucker for these games and it's spin-offs. :D

In fact, I joked about a 7th one and said that there's probably not going to be a 7th one, and whaddya know, there's a 7th one. :rofldata:

Darth Revan
01-06-2012, 08:31 AM
Dynasty Warriors 7.

I'm such a sucker for these games and it's spin-offs. :D

In fact, I joked about a 7th one and said that there's probably not going to be a 7th one, and whaddya know, there's a 7th one. :rofldata:

Except the fact Koei/Tecmo screwed over Xbox 360 owners of DW7... and have Dynasty Warriors 7 Xtreme Legends as a PS3 exclusive! Rat bastards >.< The DW series is to Koei, what the FF series is to SE... they'll keep milking them over and over.

Gone back to playing Saints Row The Third... very therapeutic running over people and slapping others around with the dildo bat. Though... being able to summon JAWS up from the sewers to chew up whoever is covered in chum, courtesy of the Shark-O-Matic shotgun is also pleasing.

Tanis
01-06-2012, 09:06 AM
2011 was a shit year for the Wii.

Maybe 3 or 4 decent games came out.

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 09:23 AM
Except the fact Koei/Tecmo screwed over Xbox 360 owners of DW7... and have Dynasty Warriors 7 Xtreme Legends as a PS3 exclusive! Rat bastards >.<

So? It's no big deal. It's not like whatever you did in DW7 is going to carry over to XL anyway. So, they didn't really screw the xbox 360 owners(then again, I have all 3 consoles, so, maybe that's why it doesn't really bother me) :P

Darth Revan
01-06-2012, 09:29 AM
So? It's no big deal. It's not like whatever you did in DW7 is going to carry over anyway. So, they didn't really screw the xbox 360 owners(then again, I have all 3 consoles, so, maybe that's why it doesn't really bother me) :P

First, it is a big deal to any Dynasty Warriors fan. Not being able to complete their DW7 experience, unless they go and buy a PS3 and DW7 on that (when some would more than likely have completed in it's entirety and have all achievements for). Second, they DID screw over Xbox 360 owners. Xbox 360 owners won't be able to experience everything that DW7 has to offer, due to the fact that DW7XL isn't available on Xbox 360.

Not everyone has every console and as any DW fan would know, any DW Xtreme Legends pack enhances the main game with extra content etc. All Koei/Tecmo did was ostracize the Xbox 360 community, imo.

chewey
01-06-2012, 09:56 AM
2011 was a shit year for the Wii.

Maybe 3 or 4 decent games came out.
It's not like the Wii ever has particularly strong years. 2011 was alright, I thought. The five or so worthwhile games that came out for it were all lots of fun.


First, it is a big deal to any Dynasty Warriors fan. Not being able to complete their DW7 experience, unless they go and buy a PS3 and DW7 on that (when some would more than likely have completed in it's entirety and have all achievements for). Second, they DID screw over Xbox 360 owners. Xbox 360 owners won't be able to experience everything that DW7 has to offer, due to the fact that DW7XL isn't available on Xbox 360.

Not everyone has every console and as any DW fan would know, any DW Xtreme Legends pack enhances the main game with extra content etc. All Koei/Tecmo did was ostracize the Xbox 360 community, imo.
They just announced a PC port of DW7. It comes with the Xtreme Legends thing and some of the DLC, apparently. Not that this solves your problem or anything, I just thought that was interesting.

Tanis
01-06-2012, 10:44 AM
The last Dynasty Warriors game I played was Gundam 3.
Not too shabby, better than most of the main series.

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 11:02 AM
Well, I'm not really fan, so, that's probably why I don't see it as a big deal. I don't really consider myself a fan of anything, like I said a page back I think.

Darth Revan
01-06-2012, 11:31 AM
They just announced a PC port of DW7. It comes with the Xtreme Legends thing and some of the DLC, apparently. Not that this solves your problem or anything, I just thought that was interesting.

Doesn't surprise me, as there was a precedent... Dynasty Warriors 4 Hyper for PC. I'm not 100% sure if that included DW4 Xtreme Legends with the main game in the one package though... I should check on that. Still... it is a slap in the face to DW7 owners on the Xbox 360 though.


The last Dynasty Warriors game I played was Gundam 3.
Not too shabby, better than most of the main series.

.... The Dynasty Warrior Gundam series are a damn abomination... Not even whichever Gundam is the strongest would be able to beat a Autobot or Decepticon... and it'd have 0 chance against Unicron... Or the Freelance Peacekeeping Agent, Death's Head (Yes... got my Transformer geek on).


Well, I'm not really fan, so, that's probably why I don't see it as a big deal. I don't really consider myself a fan of anything, like I said a page back I think.

What has me interested in the DW series, is the fact it'sloosely based on the Chinese playwright, Luo Guanzhong's novel 'Romance of the Three Kingdoms', which was based off a 1700 year old chronicle, 'Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms' which in turn was based off actual events in China's early history (170AD-269AD). So yeah... I'm a fan of the DW series (and even the Samurai Warriors series... as that's based off actual events circa the 15th century).

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 11:48 AM
I love Dynasty Warriors Gundam and the 3rd one is a major improvement.

Darth Revan
01-06-2012, 11:51 AM
I love Dynasty Warriors Gundam and the 3rd one is a major improvement.

That's your choice and you're entitled to it.

...But robots painted in red, white and blue and piloted by angst-ridden teenagers don't interest me at all...

Tanis
01-06-2012, 11:52 AM
I guess because it's not a 'true' Dynasty Warriors; it's actually fun.
:P

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 11:56 AM
...But robots painted in red, white and blue and piloted by angst-ridden teenagers don't interest me at all...

Not all pilots are angst and/or teenagers (e.g. Amuro Ray) as far as I can tell. I've heard mostly stuff about Kira Yamato, but that's about it. I've seen how his personality is in DWG2 and 3, but I'll need to watch Gundam SEED to see what he's like exactly.

Darth Revan
01-06-2012, 12:02 PM
I guess because it's not a 'true' Dynasty Warriors; it's actually fun.
:P

To each their own...

However, the original Dynasty Warriors series is fun... has to be, to have 7 games in the main series and inspired Samurai Warriors and... that abomination that is Dynasty Warriors Gundam. Even Bladestorm (also made by Koei), one can see the link to Koei's flagship series.


Not all pilots are angst and/or teenagers (e.g. Amuro Ray) as far as I can tell. I've heard mostly stuff about Kira Yamato, but that's about it. I've seen how his personality is in DWG2 and 3, but I'll need to watch Gundam SEED to see what he's like exactly.

I can proudly state I've never seen a episode of any Gundam series... and have no desire to. I've played the demo of the first DWG game... and immediately deleted it. Hated it...

Tanis
01-06-2012, 12:20 PM
I'm teasing you...and the first DW:G game was shit, pure shit.


I LOVED DW3; it was my first 'true' mindless hack-n-slash.
I like the Gundam games because, lets face it, most of the Gundam games are shit and DW:G3 had a great graphical style.

My issue with the series is that it feels like Madden...just the same shit over and over again with VERY little progress from game to game.
:(

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 12:23 PM
My issue with the series is that it feels like Madden...just the same shit over and over again with VERY little progress from game to game.

At least it's actually entertaining instead of the Madden games and any other EA Sports game since I've never bought any them and never will(Except Fight Night, I only have FNR 3, 4, and Champions). The only football games I probably would buy would be Backbreaker, Blitz The League and Blitz The League II. Speaking of sports, I should play Table Tennis, I haven't played that game in a while.

Tanis
01-06-2012, 12:29 PM
At least it's actually entertaining instead of the Madden games and any other EA Sports game since I've never bought any them and never will(Except Fight Night, I only have FNR 3, 4, and Champions). The only football games I probably would buy would be Backbreaker, Blitz The League and Blitz The League II. Speaking of sports, I should play Table Tennis, I haven't played that game in a while.
Eh, that's subjective but if I'm not going to take a 'roster update' from Madden, why would I from a company that can actually make good games like the ones behind DW?

chewey
01-06-2012, 01:32 PM
At least it's actually entertaining instead of the Madden games and any other EA Sports game since I've never bought any them and never will
I wouldn't be so sure about that, man.

Nostalgia gamer
01-06-2012, 02:37 PM
[QUOTE=Vrykolas;1885846]By your logic, the early games could have resolved the Umbrella story, by tacking it onto the end. They did something like that in the movie 'Moon', and it was universally derided as the biggest cop out ending ever, to an otherwise fantastic modern sci-fi movie. So no, I don't agree with you at all. When you build it up for that long, it deserves actual payoff, not some 'Okay, forget about that now...' in the first couple of minutes.

If Mass Effect 3 started with 'The Reapers finally attacked, we beat them, and now there's a new threat...' you can bet it wouldn't go down well. RE4 betrayed the promise it was making on its story. RE5 filled in the blanks, cleaning up after RE4's mess.

I mean, I must have missed all the fans who were saying 'You know what I want in a sequel - for them to ditch the Umbrella thing and do something else entirely'. Because then its something else entirely, which is what RE4 is. And get off your high horse - I already said that I think RE4 is a fantastic game. What more do you want?! Blood?

By your standards,a game that is supposed to be a survival horror and isn't,is still a success? re4 isn't scary,but re5 is even less scary.

Also:Kaim has way more development than jansen and seth.

Seth has a bit of backstory,but i haven't really seen that much.We get to see about the story of her being a pirate and being friends with the queen.

Kaim on the other hand,we have a story that spawns really far back and tells about him staying in villages and wandering the earth.Because of this,we get little glimpse of events in his life that lead to a more thorough development.

Jansen while amusing at times with his jokes and complaining,is mostly there for comic relief i feel.

DoDoRay9000
01-06-2012, 11:00 PM
Skyrim

@ Darth Revan

I just remembered something. Isn't DW7 on the ps3 as well? When you said that they "screwed the xbox360 owners"? Well, there's a ps3 version of DW7. If you plan on getting DW7 XL, well, there you go :)

I have the 360 version of DW7, so, I don't really care about the "Remix" feature, but I do plan on getting it.

CC
01-06-2012, 11:54 PM
Moogle charm. To beat Magimaster, berserk his ass and then just osmose him to death so his last ditch Ultima won't go with no MP.

I'll keep this in mind ^^ I almost got to the top . . . then I think I was Flare'd to death by something :'( Might not've been Flare; was really sick this whole week, so my mind was a little fuzzy. Whatever it was, it was quite crippling :O

Darth Revan
01-07-2012, 12:05 AM
Skyrim

@ Darth Revan

I just remembered something. Isn't DW7 on the ps3 as well? When you said that they "screwed the xbox360 owners"? Well, there's a ps3 version of DW7. If you plan on getting DW7 XL, well, there you go :)

I have the 360 version of DW7, so, I don't really care about the "Remix" feature, but I do plan on getting it.

DW7 is on PS3 as well as DW7XL... I can't get that version as I don't have a PS3 and I'm not going to get one just for one game. So I still stand by my statement of Koei/Tecmo 'screwed the xbox360 owners'. There is the possibility that Koei/Tecmo may release it on the Xbox 360 later... but I'm not hopeful. I do hope they release a Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires for Xbox 360 and PS3, but the way things stand at the moment... /shrug.

Anyway, back to topic, playing NCIS the Videogame.

jb101
01-07-2012, 01:51 AM
The last game I played was CIV 5 but it was becoming an addiction. I forced myself to stop for two weeks and strangely never came back to it.

DoDoRay9000
01-07-2012, 01:54 AM
It's exclusively for the PS3, so I don't think it'll be ported to the 360. If they make DW 7 Empires, it may be on both 360 and ps3.

Edit: I've been reading that Conquest Mode in DW7 is sort of like Empires, but stripped down. I haven't gotten to it yet, however. Either way, I'd still like to see another DW Empires made.

Vrykolas
01-07-2012, 03:03 AM
Nostalgia Gamer:
Kaim's story doesn't fit him at all though, IMO. When I look at Kaim, I don't see the guy that all this stuff has happened to. I just see a really, really dull character with some very stiff dialogue (though that is preferable to the overwrought sequences he occasionally has). I got nothing out of that character at all. He was as good as any other JRPG main hero (i.e not very), but I certainly didn't see him as the guy they tried to build him up as. The argument over actual content of stories and characters versus how enjoyable and interesting they actually are, and which is more important is an argument that will never end. And this thread certainly isn't the place for round 3018 of that fight.

And my opinion on RE5 is a matter of record. I've stated many times that I consider RE4 a better game overall, but that I consider RE5 a better RE game. And as a RE fan, the latter is what concerns me most about any RE title. Like I said earlier, I would have had no issues with RE4 at all if it had just been called something else. And I also stated quite plainly that I don't give RE5 a free pass on many issues, but that many were precedents set by RE4. The ability to buy weapons and ammo from the many shifty traders dotted about is a) very silly and camp (but very funny too) and b) removes most of the survival aspect, when you can just restock ammo and health so easily. The inventory is also much bigger and can be increased again many times. Together with the general lack of quest related items, that leaves you free to pack your case to bursting with weapons, ammo, health etc, again taking an important aspect of survival horror (thrifty inventory management) and doing away with it. The camera is also more helpful and environments generally more open, leading to an experience that is much closer to a straight up shooter.

I enjoyed both games fairly equally. The sheer unusual bizarreness in RE4 is the product of (IMO) a more genuinely creative mind than the fairly realistic RE5, and makes for a more memorable experience. But as a RE fan, I vastly, vastly prefer RE5, because it feels much truer to the series, in terms of tone, story and character, whilst still being a very good game in its own right. When I look at RE4, I just see a game that has no relevance to RE. If you want to start a new story then fine, but finish the old one first!

Because if Return of the Jedi had started with 'Boba Fett's ship having broken down, the heroes rescued Han and all was well again. Emperor Palpatine choked on his dinner and died, whilst Lord Vadar broke his neck getting out of the shower. The Empire thus defeated, this is what the heroes did next...' Or if Return of the King has begun with a voiceover from Frodo saying 'After our difficult journey, getting into Mount Doom was actually a piece of piss - we chucked the ring into the lava, won and went home. The next day...'

In an ongoing series, it is customary to actually finish the story you are telling, and in a way that is respectful to the buildup you have been giving it. I don't think that's an unreasonable request. Otherwise its just like any sci-fi series that ends a season with characters lost in different times/dimensions, the world ending etc, makes you wait a year to see what happens, then resolves everything before the opening credits of the new season. Its a marketing ploy to keep fans, and it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.

But I've said my piece, and I accept that fans cannot and should not always have their way on things. Anyone who pays money for a product has a stake in it, and if people preferred RE4 and paid their money for it, then who am I to say different?


Anyway, to get back on-topic, I'm playing Batman: Arkham City again. Warming up to that game now, since I started doing some of the side quests. Gathering evidence to hunt down snipers and cold calling serial killers is pretty fun. And the combat is really great. Main story sucks, but game is still a lot better than I gave it credit for before.

DoDoRay9000
01-07-2012, 05:16 AM
Going to play some TF2.

You know what's been on my mind for some reason? Trolls. I hate them. Not the good kind of trolls, but the bad, obnoxious ones.

Maxx Skywalker
01-07-2012, 10:48 AM
I couldn't disagree more about Resident Evil being cheesy. Left 4 Dead, Dead Rising, Evil Dead etc are cheesy, Resident Evil went for genuine scares and atmosphere. In RE, your characters don't use improvised weapons, they use guns. The zombies aren't played for laughs, with comedy dismemberments, and them trying to open doors and bumping their heads etc etc.


Then what do you call this: Resident Evil Intro - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf0EpML-AWM)

I'm sorry, that's enough schlock for one day.

I'm currently playing through Conker: Live and Reloaded for the Xbox. This is actually the first Xbox game that I've actually sat down to play (not including 360 games here). Course, it is classic Rare.

Nostalgia gamer
01-07-2012, 12:25 PM
That is bullshit reasoning.

The dreams explain why kaim is so quiet and rather sad.
I am beginning to think you don't even read the dream sequences and such.
I do find that the gameplay doesn't seem very interesting in the game,i mean:

Why do you want immortals with spells,if you got natural spellcasters like jansen?

As for re4:

yes,re4 isn't much of an re game,but re5 is even less so.

The game is mostly seems to be centered around co op mode,and as fun as it can be,it doesn't make up for the lack of resident evil feel.
During most of re5,you don't see hardly anything related to resident evil during the game till the very end.And by that time,its so little that it isn't worth it.

I do like how the lickers respond on sound in this one,very interesting.I also like how they put old diaries from way back from dr spencer.

DoDoRay9000
01-07-2012, 09:33 PM


I can be trusted, but can I trust them? Even if they aren't infected, I can't help but think that it may catch up to them and they'll become one of those things. :P

Darth Revan
01-08-2012, 12:01 AM
This:

DoDoRay9000
01-08-2012, 12:17 AM
I've heard how good that game was. It never interested me before, but I might try and see if I can pick it up some time.

Darth Revan
01-08-2012, 12:19 AM
It is a good game DoDoRay9000... the sequel was... ok, not as good as the original imo.

Nostalgia gamer
01-08-2012, 01:39 AM
It is a good game DoDoRay9000... the sequel was... ok, not as good as the original imo.

I watched the spoony ones review on the thing.

I heard complaints about the amount of times you have to use a tool to repair doors,and some on the usefulness of some ai.

Purrr
01-08-2012, 01:50 AM
Currently playing FFXI on a private server for nostalgia.

Other than that, still getting through The Witcher 2.

Maxx Skywalker
01-08-2012, 04:01 AM
I have a question; can you play dead MMO's on private "servers"? I want to look into a couple, and well, as they're dead I'm not sure if I should buy a hard copy if I can't play them by myself.

Purrr
01-08-2012, 04:52 AM
Not sure about dead MMOs. But I did hear there was a Star Wars Galaxies private server... not sure if it's still around though.

ROKUSHO
01-08-2012, 05:08 AM
That is bullshit reasoning.

The dreams explain why kaim is so quiet and rather sad.
I am beginning to think you don't even read the dream sequences and such.
I do find that the gameplay doesn't seem very interesting in the game,i mean:

Why do you want immortals with spells,if you got natural spellcasters like jansen?

As for re4:

yes,re4 isn't much of an re game,but re5 is even less so.

The game is mostly seems to be centered around co op mode,and as fun as it can be,it doesn't make up for the lack of resident evil feel.
During most of re5,you don't see hardly anything related to resident evil during the game till the very end.And by that time,its so little that it isn't worth it.

I do like how the lickers respond on sound in this one,very interesting.I also like how they put old diaries from way back from dr spencer.

lickers also react to sound in re2. if you ran, it would alert them. if you shoot, it would alert them.

DoDoRay9000
01-08-2012, 06:10 AM
Was playing MW3

*sigh* I swear, it feels like when a new COD gets released, the multiplayer is good after it's release and then, in a couple of weeks or about a month, it just goes to crap(probably because of the majority of the players, but that's just my assumption). You can't do anything, you get killed no matter what, and a lot of b.s. happens. And the snipers are more tolerable in TF2 than the snipers COD. Snipers in COD just piss me off. If they're going to make another one, they need to focus more on the multiplayer since single player pretty much has no problems. Maybe it's me just sucking now and then, I don't know.

Going to play Devil May Cry 4.

Edit: Actually, Onechanbara.

CC
01-08-2012, 06:29 AM
This:


Dreamcast? . . . Now that's a name I've not heard in a loooooooooong time. A long time.

Tanis
01-08-2012, 07:13 AM
Pixel Junk: Monsters

Nice looking TD game.

Purrr
01-08-2012, 10:29 AM
Some screens of today's festivities~






chewey
01-08-2012, 11:39 AM
If they're going to make another one, they need to focus more on the multiplayer since single player pretty much has no problems.
MW3's campaign wasn't great. It had too many on rails sections, it was too short and they've become too afraid to slow down the action and do something interesting with the gameplay. It's not all that surprising the campaign turned out the way it did though, considering how messed up Infinity Ward was for a lot of the game's production.

Vrykolas
01-08-2012, 03:59 PM
Each to his own, but for me the story sections in Lost Odyssesy do not feel relevant to the main game and Kaim at all. They are completely different in tone and style (they are written by a different guy who only works on those and had nothing to do with the rest of the game). Plus, only a few of them are actually good (and yes, I've read them all - Elegy ISland is my favourite BTW). And its not like I care for Kaim in those stories anyway, because I still find him to be an extremely dull character. The point is that in any visual media, it is never good enough to tell us things, you need to *show* us things. You can tell me a character has done this, that and the other all you like, but unless I see him doing them, it makes no impact. I don't connect the two together - for me, Kaim is simply the guy I see on the screen and I judge him as a character, based on what he does and says in game.

It means that when Jansen is taking the mick of him for being surly, grumpy and miserable, I actually agree with him. I just don't feel his pain or anything like that. He's just a strangely stiff, duck footed misery guts. I don't hate him, but that's because I don't care about him one way or the other. I don't mind him, and that's actually not so bad really, when you consider that many JRPGs have extremely irritating main characters. I could really do without that crying scene at the end of Disc 1 though - that's one of the most embarassing things I've ever seen (along with the bit in Disc 2, where the kids start singing).

The gameplay is as you say, not very good at all. The gulf in quality between Immortals and Mortals is huge, and some sections have bosses that you *must* grind hard to beat, because they have attacks so powerful that they can wipe out the whole party in one go unless you've levelled up plenty. The whole game feels incredibly old fashioned, with random battles, and 'I go, then you go; gameplay, and acres and acres of grinding required for levels and skills. But I still think its not a bad game by any means, and IMO the last 2 discs are very good.

Maxx:
If you look earlier in this thread, we covered this already. The original RE is basically something else entirely now, rather than a legitimate part of the series. The remake has completely replaced the original, and is the greatest remake ever made. I still enjoy the intro of the original, and the Master of Unlocking stuff, but its unintentionally hilarious. They didn't actually intend for these sectons to be cheesy and funny (which makes it even more hilarious). The remake was (in Shinji Mimkami's own words) a chance for them to go back and do the game properly, now that they were a bit wiser about western culture and film making. Then again, its a sad thing to think about, but most horror films aren't much better than that video!

Finally got myself onto Xbox LIVE - only taken me about 6 years! Unfortunately, the money I spent on the wireless adaptor cleaned me for the moment, so I'll to wait a bit longer to get that copy of Morrowind I've been keeping an eye on.

Nostalgia gamer
01-08-2012, 04:26 PM
[QUOTE=Vrykolas;1887940]Each to his own, but for me the story sections in Lost Odyssesy do not feel relevant to the main game and Kaim at all. They are completely different in tone and style (they are written by a different guy who only works on those and had nothing to do with the rest of the game). Plus, only a few of them are actually good (and yes, I've read them all - Elegy ISland is my favourite BTW). And its not like I care for Kaim in those stories anyway, because I still find him to be an extremely dull character. The point is that in any visual media, it is never good enough to tell us things, you need to *show* us things. You can tell me a character has done this, that and the other all you like, but unless I see him doing them, it makes no impact. I don't connect the two together - for me, Kaim is simply the guy I see on the screen and I judge him as a character, based on what he does and says in game.

It means that when Jansen is taking the mick of him for being surly, grumpy and miserable, I actually agree with him. I just don't feel his pain or anything like that. He's just a strangely stiff, duck footed misery guts. I don't hate him, but that's because I don't care about him one way or the other. I don't mind him, and that's actually not so bad really, when you consider that many JRPGs have extremely irritating main characters. I could really do without that crying scene at the end of Disc 1 though - that's one of the most embarassing things I've ever seen (along with the bit in Disc 2, where the kids start singing).

Jansen has next to no backstory.

He has only a few parts of actual backstory so far.
As for the puppy dog eyes crying scene of kaim's daughter:it was really corny.Its basically:Like something from a melodramatic movie.
OH NO!! she dies of the fatal unknown disease,and what better timing than right as she meets kaim.WAAH WAAH.

Those scenes are nowhere nearly as emotional as some of the writings.The old woman one kinda gets to me,because its eerie and creepy at the same time of an idea.the thought of meeting someone you knew 80 years ago,and not having aged even a bit,is creepy and eerie idea.
you have to kind of take in the thoughts,that these kind of things effect someone.He was a mercenary for 1000 years,having seen countless deaths of friends and strangers alike.I think this would eventually take a toll on you.Also:Each dream sequence does kind of talk about his advantures.Some are more interesting than others,and they also come at moments relating to where he meets and what he hears,so i think they do relate to the events.Like:The whole cell one where he was locked up with an old revolutionary in a cage during a time of a fascist dictatorship.How does this relate? Possibly his experience towards how people may react when locked up in a cage like an animal.Perhaps he wonders if people will react the same way they did in his dream sequence? getting paranoid?

I personally think,that kaim has a really good reason to be gloomy.

DoDoRay9000
01-08-2012, 06:13 PM
MW3's campaign wasn't great. It had too many on rails sections, it was too short and they've become too afraid to slow down the action and do something interesting with the gameplay. It's not all that surprising the campaign turned out the way it did though, considering how messed up Infinity Ward was for a lot of the game's production.

I personally enjoyed the campaign. I noticed it was short, but I thought it was a excellent conclusion to the Modern Warfare storyline. As much as I like COD, I agree about wanting to see something different, like zombie mode in World at War and Black Ops, for example. They at least have survival mode, but sadly, it seems like hardly anyone plays that. Overall, I think MW3's a 8/10(mainly because of the campaign). Multiplayer, ehhhh, it's a 6/10, imo.

Vrykolas
01-09-2012, 06:06 AM
I'm not saying that some (but definately not all) of those dream stories are good. But they are so different from the actual game, that they don't feel part of it at all. There's always this slightly eerie dreamy, romantic sheen to them, as he constantly meets enigmatic people with an 'Important Life Lesson' to share with him etc. Its all high tragedy, faith beating oppression, guilt manifesting physically etc etc etc. All well and good, but the game itself is not like that - its the definition of a standard JRPG, with no situations or characters that are remotely like those from the dream stories.

And because of that, I find it very difficult to connect Kaim as being the same guy. And even if I did, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't care much for him. Having some lengthy backstory with hooks to pull at the heartstrings is no guarantee of anything. Jansen succeeds because he is a fun character, who gets up to lots of capers onscreen, and is always the underdog. He has charisma, and is an enjoyable character, whereas Kaim isn't. But anyway, enough of this, and let us never speak of that crying scene ever again...

DoDoRay9000
01-09-2012, 11:02 PM
L.A. Noire

DoDoRay9000
01-11-2012, 02:03 AM
Saints Row The Third

Slow day on this thread, I see.

Darth Revan
01-11-2012, 02:41 AM
Saints Row The Third

Slow day on this thread, I see.

Still early here (in Australia that is).

Playing Saints Row The Third as well... I feel like killing a bunch of idiots in stupid costumes... that includes Mascots, Morningstar, Luchardores, Decekers and pretty much everyone in Steelport. Where's my chainsaw...