Fuck that guy. Whoever he is, fuck him.

Teen Titans had its moments (mostly the episodes involving Deathstroke and that demon/god/whatever that was trying to destroy the world).

Okay, my first thought: it looks like they're trying to recreate Beast Wars. Seriously, wtf.

You've got Optimus, that military vehicle one looks like Rhinox, yellow one is very Cheetor, motorcycle dude could easily be Rattrap, and I guess I'm not sure about what appears to be their take on Ratchet... maybe Tigatron? But seriously, wtf. If this show is a retarded version of Beast Wars I'm going to hate it even more than if it was just a retarded version of Transformers in general.


Teen Titans had its moments (mostly the episodes involving Deathstroke and that demon/god/whatever that was trying to destroy the world).

There are enough talented people involved in this series that I'm sure it will have its "moments" too, but that is not very encouraging when it makes your eyes bleed just to look at it.

I loved the Teen Titans show

The look of that just doesn't feel right for TFs though, but eh, whatever, after the movie designs and this it's obvious fans of this crap are pretty much being forced into a very open mindset. I'll wait till I see the cartoon and see them in motion before I go apeshit or anything. Maybe the toys will be cool, who knows.

Prime looks almost exactly like the Cybertron one in vehicle mode. Weird.

Maybe the toys won't be so horribly proportioned, but I'm guessing they will. Action figures usually try to emulate the look of the show they're based on to some extent. =/

Transformers is just too serious for this. I want another show like Beast Wars in which characters die, fall in love, make sacrifices, and basically treat what they're involved in as a real war. Even if all those things are present in this series, it will be impossible for me to take it seriously.

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Nice repost of images I posted earlier in the thread. :laugh:

Nice repost of images I posted earlier in the thread. :laugh:

I was about to point that out. *sighs* Oh, Sharon Agathon. You're so silly.

Designs are by the designer of the Teen Titans show. You can definitely tell.

GAH. I didn't really like Teen Titans, and that show isn't really a serious show in terms of tone. Man, I think I'm gonna ignore if at all possible. I hope the writing is good and makes up for the character designs. If not, I'm gonna just watch whatever the Cybertron stuff has been coming on or even find my old G1 Transformers to watch.

Got movie Optimus, tonight. Took me 15 minutes to get him out of the box, and 50 more to get him transformed. He is staying as a truck for the rest of his existance :mad:

But, seriously, how do you seperate the the back wheels once you've clicked them together?

Found this at Wizard Magazine's website

Damn it

Designs are by the designer of the Teen Titans show. You can definitely tell.

that is just painful to look at


seriously who the fuck gave the okay for them to draw them like that

All the people who watch every other show with that same style of shitty animation.

The more I think about it, the more I'm fine with them trying new shit, it'll keep me from getting bored, and when they do finally, or if they do that is, return to a more classic formula, it'll be something to be excited about.

I'm fine with "different." But Transformers is a serious story and it should be treated seriously. Even if the writing is great for this show it will be impossible for me to take it seriously, and that is what I am so pissed off about. =/

But whatever, I've still got IDW comics.

I don't really like the look of it either but I'm just a wait and see kind of guy you know

I think the thing most un-Transformers like is that apparently they'll be fighting human villains more often than Decepticons, like a superhero team. That's pretty hard to swallow.

that is just painful to look at


seriously who the fuck gave the okay for them to draw them like thatIt looks more like the SW: Clone Wars cartoon art than Teen Titans. anyways, I'd rather have them look like that than those piece of shit anime Transformers anytime!
actually, the anime wouldn't have bothered me so much if they would've just stayed true to the story rather than making them into a not so serious joke.
I preferred the comp. animated Beast Wars version, at least they fixed it into the original timeline.

As for the movie, I agree with Ktulu, I don't like the look, but I'm willing to give it a chance and let the story speak for itself.

Got movie Optimus, tonight. Took me 15 minutes to get him out of the box, and 50 more to get him transformed. He is staying as a truck for the rest of his existance :mad:

But, seriously, how do you seperate the the back wheels once you've clicked them together?

Oh, Knegative. It's not that hard. In fact I got pretty good transforming Optimus. I think I'm motivated based on the fact that Transformers to me are like fun, boy puzzles. *runs off to make video...*


that is just painful to look at


seriously who the fuck gave the okay for them to draw them like that

Sephiroth did.


The more I think about it, the more I'm fine with them trying new shit, it'll keep me from getting bored, and when they do finally, or if they do that is, return to a more classic formula, it'll be something to be excited about.

I'm all for new stuff too, I'm not particularly happy with the new style, but I'm not upset either. I'm just more curious on how they're going to make it work. I'm even more curious on how they're going to make the toys work since they've already announced them. I've also noticed if you look close, the yellow guy, perhaps Bumblebee, also has a red police light on top like the rest. I'm a little worried this will be more like a crime fighting show incorporated with fighting Decepticons where they work incognito with several law enforcement entities as supposed to incognito with a select few humans like Spike and Sparkplug only fighting Decepticons.

Note how he avoided my real question. How the hell do you pry open the back wheels?!??!

Originally Posted by Safer Roco
that is just painful to look at


seriously who the fuck gave the okay for them to draw them like that


Sephiroth did.




Sorry. Couldn't past up the chance to post that pic.

LMAO. Seriously. That image is saved.

I only really enjoyed the first Transformers series with the old school animation. The only other one I enjoyed was Beast Wars. That shit was pretty awesome. All the others have failed to keep me interested and I didn't really enjoy the ones that had the anime feel to it. It just seemed to colorful for a Transformers show. The Teen Titan animation for Transformers? I guess that's the animation you have to use to get kids interested again. Seriously, that looks horrific. Optimus waist is womanly. Paint him pink he is a woman! Bitchimus Prima

Vastalis - Doesn't look like Gendy Tartakovsky's art to me at all (clone wars/samurai jack/dexters lab), as stated, it was designed by the Teen Titans guy, and you can tell just by looking at it.

The "piece of shit anime" TFs had great designs that were very true to the original spirt of Transformers. Many were actually huge homages to G1 bots. I could give you tons of examples. Anyway, the shows were indeed silly due to their very young intended audience and some poor japanese to english translation, but the bots looked wonderful at least, and lots of cool fucking toys came from them.

Okay, I've got the transformation down now. I'm a happy camper....except I broke out one of the pins that hold the back wheels together. Is this a common complaint about this figure?

I wasn't this ham-fisted when I was a kid, I swear :sad:

EDIT: Pulled it out with a pair of pliers and popped it back in. Noice. Tomorrow, Jazz is mine. I'll leave you in peace now.

The Autobots are pretty awesome and are worth getting. Unless you're trying to collect the whole set, the only Decepticons worth getting are Starscream and Barricade.

Edit:

I was bored so look what I made.

Vastalis - Doesn't look like Gendy Tartakovsky's art to me at all (clone wars/samurai jack/dexters lab), as stated, it was designed by the Teen Titans guy, and you can tell just by looking at it.Well I got that off of how Optmus looks, widened upper torso, and out of proportioned narrow lower torso, also they look Powerpuff Girls style which he also directed. I can see a little Cyborg resemblance on the rest though.


The "piece of shit anime" TFs had great designs that were very true to the original spirt of Transformers. Many were actually huge homages to G1 bots. I could give you tons of examples. Anyway, the shows were indeed silly due to their very young intended audience and some poor japanese to english translation, but the bots looked wonderful at least, and lots of cool fucking toys came from them.I don't know about that. All I see are the typical anime rough copies of Macross/Gundam mech elements


As for the toys, I don't see why in the movie Bumble Bee is a Camaro concept, while the actual toy he's a mid 70's camaro!

Well I got that off of how Optmus looks, widened upper torso, and out of proportioned narrow lower torso, also they look Powerpuff Girls style which he also directed. I can see a little Cyborg resemblance on the rest though.

I don't know about that. All I see are the typical anime rough copies of Macross/Gundam mech elements


As for the toys, I don't see why in the movie Bumble Bee is a Camaro concept, while the actual toy he's a mid 70's camaro!

I think there may be two yellow autobots or something, because I've seen trailers with both cars in it at different points.

That, or Bumble Bee gets an upgraded appearance at some point in the film or something.

Bee gets an upgrade in the movie. He starts off as the '74 Camero but later becomes the '08 concept. As for the toys, right now they just have the '74 Camero but they are releasing the '08 concept soon, which incidentally looks WAY better in robot form then the one that's out now as pointed out by Ktulu... (keep in mind they didn't transform Bumblebee on the left correctly.)




Comparison of 70s BB and 08 BB. Serious difference in quality.

Edit-

MTV Movie Awards had some new TF Clips, the cars on the red carpet, star interviews, and a little bit with Optimus and Sarah Silverman made just for the show. Crummy award show as expected but I guess it was neat seeing some new TF stuff.

You can see some of it here:

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1561537&vid=153077

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0kZHybANP4k

The picture below is a line up of the Autobots minus Optimus, apparently all in scale with each other




Better shot of 08 Bumblebee



Target has some new trailer showing with a few new shots. It's on youtube of course, but low quality.

I don't know about that. All I see are the typical anime rough copies of Macross/Gundam mech elements


I'm telling you, Armada/Energon/Cybertron are full of designs that are very similar, intended as direct homages, to older Transformers, and most of the designs are appropriate to the series. That's fine if you think they all look like Gundams or whatever, but really, they don't

Cool video, however the true colors of retardation come out at around 1:20 into the video. Her blond friend is pretty cute though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL_V21AylIw&NR=1

edit: Got my tickets for Monday 8pm. wOOt!

Luls



Another Target repaint of an older basic size toy. Yawn. A good repaint though. You should get this to go with your others MarvStraight, a very good mold. Completely done by Hasbro too, I don't think the character (Armorhide) was in the Japanese Cybertron line (Galaxy Force) at all.

I don't like it. The colors are pretty cool, but the bot mode is blah.

Dude. If movie Starscream can grow on you, anything can.

Dude. If movie Starscream can grow on you, anything can.

The peeps on SA are talking about their experiences going to early screenings and the consensus is that Starscream is the coolest thing in the movie.

Optimus Prime has a mouth?

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5932

Denny don't like :(

The peeps on SA are talking about their experiences going to early screenings and the consensus is that Starscream is the coolest thing in the movie.

While I understand the reasoning behind Starscream being a F-22 raptor due to his super-ego and wanting to be the best, I still kind of wish they stuck with the F-15 design. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the fact that they upgraded Starscream to a newer plane which I will admit is growing on me as well, however, They could have kept the nostalgia of Generation 1 and still have the Hi-Tech fighter design that Starscream would want if they went with the F-15 ACTIVE.

I think it would be rather interesting that if the movie does well and they do a sequel, that they might incorporate some Russian designed aircraft for the likes of say Skywarp, Dirge, or Thundercracker. I Kind of like the Su-35 Design in particular. Besides nothing brings out the fear of alien robot invaders more than using the image of our good old Cold War enemies, the Russians.

Oh, and the cell phone bot with it's tiny missiles and minigun.

I don't like it. The colors are pretty cool, but the bot mode is blah.

It's widely considered one of the best basic sized TF toys released, period, but ok :o

On the subject of Starscream, let me just say the figure is something you have to own and hold in your hands in order to understand how cool it is. Looking at the figure through the box window even I thought it was blah. But as soon as I pulled him out I was amazed at how great of a figure it is once it was in my hands and I transformed him a few times. Sure it sucks they didn't give him hands but replaced it with 6 projectiles, but the model is damn nice.


It's widely considered one of the best basic sized TF toys released, period, but ok :o

Yeah, well I'm rubber and your glue. :p

lol.

But based on the point I just made on Starscream then maybe I will check him out. I would be contridicting myself since I said the same about Starscream. Now Starscream is one of my favorite toys. And if, as you said, it is widely considered one of the best basic sized TF toys, then maybe I'd be missing out on something special.

I don't care about the hands on Starscream as much as the ugly head, giant torso and tiny chicken legs. The whole design just doesn't do it for me. I'm cool with you liking the toy though, I'm glad people can still enjoy them, especially after all the bitching that they look so weird and all that.



Yet another cool Prime toy from the Japan place, obviously some sort of lego-ish thing

I posted the Lego Optimus above before TFW2005 front paged it. Ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zIZxszCfRc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6XVhSGtwTw

G1 models for Prime and Megs in the TF Movie game, not just reskins

Cybertron Armorhide, as pictured above, is also repainted as Huffer for the Botcon attendees. They also get Cybertron Defense Hot Shot as Springer, and Snarl as Weirdwolf along with the Vector Prime as Alpha Trion I posted earlier. Yay, more Classics I'll never get!



My most recent TF purchases, and aside from any other Robot Heroes that might come out, my last for a long time

Ooooh. I should go look for those robot heroes.

Wal-Mart man. The exclusive set with the Skywarp and Cliffjumper has been found there by others already too, I'm gonna start checking for that soon

I picked up the Optimus/Ravage heroes a few weeks back. They both look "cute" on top of my little bookshelf speakers.

I picked up the Optimus/Ravage heroes a few weeks back. They both look "cute" on top of my little bookshelf speakers.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/CHARRRGE.jpgLOL

Just a thought, Wasn't that one Decepticon Giant robot team leader that type of Semi, only black.

I remember that one episode where the Autobots painted themselves to look like the Giant robot team, and Optimus for some reason changed body styles to look like the leader, they even attempted to transform into the Giant robot, but weren't coordinated enough to pull it off which gave them away.

Bobble heads gone wrong!

Bobble heads gone wrong!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/DSC02034.jpgROTF

Why does this phrase come to mind:

Optimus: "Bobble-bot, Transform and roll out!

Can you imagine, the unfortunate circumstances that occurred when they first crashed on earth.

...As the autobots lay in their crashed ship, waiting for the right moment when they could assimilate into Human technology. Along comes a semi with a cargo box full of bobbleheads.:p

Vastalis - the "giant robot team" you mean were the Stunticons, and yes, their leader, Motormaster, was a black/grey semi truck.

Botcon is this weekend so lots of news should be coming in. It's already been stated that Masterpiece Starscream is indeed being released by Hasbro and will be a Wal-Mart exclusive. Also, apparently the 6 inch Titaniums are cancelled. No big surprise, they weren't even shipping the damn things anyway!

YES!!!!

Megatron does NOT sound like agent smith! He actually sounds... GRRRREAT! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgkFM3M5exA)

Will wait to see it to hear him

My local Wal-Mart had the Robot Heroes 5 pack. Only 10 bucks for 5 of them, pretty fair price, and the box is cool

I also bought the real gear bot Longview for the hell of it. I don't like it as much as I thought I would, but still kind of cool. The price should be lower though, 5.99 rather than 7, they're really tiny.





I really like the package

Finally picked up the 20th ann'y edition of the movie. I've only had it on VHS for like well over a decade. I got movie Jazz because well let's be honest--Hong Kong Phooey's legacy :p

When I got Optimus I took my mom with me, and today I was debating on getting another in addition to Jazz, and it was like I was kid again. "I want to get Ironhide, but maybe I should get Barricade so Jazz has someone his size to fight with."

That was the exact transcript of my thought process. You can't pay for a feeling like that. Childhood regained in a Target aisle. *sigh*

That's cool. There really is more to this shit than materialistic nonsense eh?

I still have my old Family Home Entertainment TF The Movie VHS as well. The box is so worn it's taped together :D Throughout my childhood on through my teen years I popped that thing in the VCR way more than anything else. I know I've had to have seen it over 100 times easily.

Me and my dad rented it consecutively for I know a couple months at least. Once the stocking guy had put it in the wrong place and I threatened physical violence on the person who I thought had rented it. I was like "we are going to ask them for their address and we're going over there..."

Then we found it on the other side of the shelf and I was happy again.

It seems like many people have enjoyed the new movie.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_movie/

Am I the only one who's had a little "battle" between bots sitting indian style on the floor and making "boom" and "crash" sounds and feeling like 9 years old again? lol

Probably, haha

I don't play with the things aside from just checking out the different modes

The Botcon showing of the movie was well received also, and that was a bunch of fanboys, haha, so who knows, maybe the damn thing is enjoyable.

The Fanboy crowd is usually the hardest one to please. So if they liked the movie, it's probably a good sign.

I may as well pill it. I picked up the game last night. It's rather fun! I like running around through the streets as Bumblebee and watching all the little pedestrians running and screaming. lol

Transformers movie was awesome. I've seen it twice already.

If you listen carefully to the dialogue between Optimus and Megatron in their battle scene, it's word for word from the first cartoon movie.

aww I still have 5 days

Yeah it's Sunday 4:27am now. I saw it Thursday at 10am as soon as the cinema opened and seriously I was all ready to hate it having watched the series when I was a kid and loving it. I sat down and the movie started and I swear my friend must have hit me 1000 times telling me to stop whimping with delight. Then when we came out of the movie and went for a coffee, she got fed up and went bought tickets for the next earliest session cause I wouldn't shut up about it :P

whimping ith delight, wow. ugh I hate anticipation.

I can't wait for it on DVD.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Sequels

On May 30, 2007, Dreamworks greenlit two sequels to Transformers,[76] and Shia LaBeouf,[77] Megan Fox[78] and Peter Cullen[37] signed on to return. Michael Bay has not signed, saying "I'm trying to keep some leverage for the negotiations."[37] Writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman are undecided but may not return because "we want to have a reason to do it, not just say, “it’s a business, it’s a franchise, we’re going to go do the second one because that’s what we do and we’re going to get the big money,” and Star Trek by the way is taking up kind of all of our time."[32]
Soundwave is intended to be a new major character in the sequels,[9] with his presence allowing a proper introduction of mass-shifting.[7] Producer Tom DeSanto has "a very cool idea on how to introduce the Dinobots and Constructicons."[79] If he decides to helm a sequel, Bay may put in an aircraft carrier character, an idea which was previously too expensive for the first film.[80]

I still haven't found out if any theaters here are showing it Monday night. Need to do that soon

Hai Mark, how's Megatron sound in the game?

Glad you dug the movie stenchlord

I have plans to see it with a friend Thursday night. I usually screw friends over by saying I'll see it with them, seeing it the night it comes out and then seeing it with them anyway.

I did that with Matrix: Revolutions. I just couldn't wait, how could I? :p

But since it is only a day after I had planned to sneak in a showing, I will wait. I WILL WAIT.

Finally, my 2 of my favorite Decepticons will come out! Soundwave and hopefully the Constructicons!
I just hope they really do a good job on Devastator!

I'm curious to know how they'll introduce the Dinobots.

If they do have a Constructicon combiner, it probably won't be called Devastator since the character meant to be called Brawl by Hasbro (the tank) is apparently called Devastator in the current film

Just bought a ticket for a Monday night showing

If they do have a Constructicon combiner, it probably won't be called Devastator since the character meant to be called Brawl by Hasbro (the tank) is apparently called Devastator in the current film

Just bought a ticket for a Monday night showing

Is it at a Regal Cinema? The one in Douglasville is playing it on Monday as well according to Fandango, thinking about going after work so there might be a chance to see it without the crowds of people on the 4th going to see it.

If they do have a Constructicon combiner, it probably won't be called Devastator since the character meant to be called Brawl by Hasbro (the tank) is apparently called Devastator in the current film

Just bought a ticket for a Monday night showing

I was about to tell you to try fandango.com or check if your local theater has a fandango kiosk. But that's great you got your monday night ticket!

As for Megatron in the game, he sounds like crap. You hear him during the first Decepticon mission with Blackout and I found myself asking, "Is that Frank Welker?"

Why crap

Odin, there's a Regal here but I'm going to a different one, the AmStar. It's nicer for one and it's a lot closer to my neighborhood.

He sounds like crap because there's no character in his voice. He sounds plain. During the first mission you see a little pic of him at the bottom of the screen when he's communicating with you. Maybe I need to hear it again, but what I heard it's like he just used his regular voice.

Welker's regular voice = Freddy from Scooby Doo

are you sure about that :o

Ok, going to run some highlights of the Hasbro product unveiling panel from Botcon today

Lots of pictures were shown but no one was allowed to photograph, so if you didn't pay the absurd amount of money to go, you don't deserve to see this stuff I guess? *bitter*

Movie toys

Movie toy line will continue until summer 2008, lots of redecos/remolds happening, some characters in even more different sizes coming, etc

Robot Heroes

Robot Heroes are continuing even past the movie ones and will even expand to Beast Wars characters. Dinobot, Megatron, and Cheetor were mentioned as examples. G1 Galvatron is also being produced.

Larger ones planned but not definite, will rely on the sales of the ones already out. Their ideas for larger characters so far are Unicron and Devastator

TF Animated (show news and toy news)

Hasbro is working close with CN to make sure the series upholds proper TF feel and style and isn't dumbed down to accomodate really young kids

The toys will be up to 90 percent accurate to the cartoon models

Toys for Cybertronian modes will be produced, not sure if it's for everyone though, Prime was mentioned of course

The large Prime toy may have a trailer that transforms into a giant axe

The art style is explained as a focus on emoting characterization (influenced by the movie I assume)

The "whirlwind" transformations will be there to some extent, but you will be able to see the complete transformations all the same and the benefit will be that there are no stock transformation cutscenes every episode

Along with the Autobot cast we've already seen, Grimlock is coming, as well as two other Dinobots, with G1 style personalities. Arcee will show up, voiced by her original voice actress Susan Blu, who is also the voice director for the show (returning to this mantle from the Beast Wars era)

Megatron will have his fusion cannon and become a Cybertronian jet (again, like the movie)

Tom Kenny's Starscream voice is G1 inspired

G1 Voice actors may be given roles if Susan Blu and CN allow it.

Weird Al has done a cameo voice. (wtf, haha)

Other Decepticons are Blitzwing, again a triple-changer, a new character Lugnut that turns into another Cybertronian jet, and Blackarachnia will return as well

The Ark and Nemesis ships will make an appearance

The toy line itself will not focus on gimmicks, more on transformation and capturing the character like Alternators and Classics did

Set to be highly articulated, characters will have signature weapons

Playsets that integrate with larger robots being looked into (for large scale TFs)

Toys will be released by March 08

Classics

Best toy related news: Classics toy line will continue in 2008, released under the title "Universe"

Sunstreaker and Sideswipe to be released, share the same mold but will transform differently and have different heads and chests. Early shots of them with the same chest were shown.

Voyager sized Octane to be released, still a triple-changer (tanker truck and jet) just like the G1 character

No more Dinobots for Classics, they want to focus on vehicles. Don't know why this is, wasn't clarified

Jazz, Prowl, Bluestreak, Smokescreen, Ironhide, and Ratchet are planned

Galvatron was mentioned, said to be a new mold, not a Megatron repaint

They mentioned that the remaining G1 triple-changers (Blitzwing, Sunstreaker, Springer, Broadside) are all planned

Overall 4-8 deluxes are planned for next fall, with at least 3 voyagers

Remaining Titanium molds (Arcee, Shockwave, Cosmos, WW Bumblebee & Cliffjumper) may be transferred to this line. The Cosmos, if made, will be the design shown at last year's Botcon

The Botcon seekers will not make it to retail so as not to rip off those that paid so much money for them (makes sense but sucks for us that can only afford retail)

Line may receive an Ultra scale for larger characters

It is possible Classics could be seen in animated form

Most important - the line will continue as long as it's successful at retail

Alternators

Most definitely cancelled

Titaniums

6 inch line has been very hard to sell to retailers, explaining the scarcity of so many of them. The remaining few that are still coming out will be incredibly rare due to this.

Misc unclear things

Classics/Universe returning primarily to replace Titaniums and Alternators as the collector oriented line, and will be more affordable, both in production and retail price, than toys under those lines. I assume positive feedback and sales had a lot to do with this as well

G1 Dinobot molds can't be found, so no reissues possible

Not sure if this stuff means Animated or Classics:

A Ultra Magnus that is not a Prime repaint was mentioned

Combiners possible

Comic characters like the Fallen and Jhiaxus, minor TF characters may be made as toys

Anyway, I think that's most of the highlights. If I missed anything you can read more detailed stuff on the usual TF sites, TFW, Seibertron, The Allspark, etc

Ok. I got to a point in the game where I actually got to hear Megatron. It sounds like G1 Megatron but with a much deeper voice. He sounds ok I guess. Oh, and I was able to unlock G1 prime model.

Cool, it looked pretty good judging from the videos I saw. G1 Megatron certainly did.

Ok, just got back from seeing the movie

My nags -

The comedy was too heavy, it pleased the crowd but again I say, after all that "this is serious, not a cartoon" talk Bay did, this is the absolutely opposite of the movie I expected.

Prime's big "One shall stand" line being off fucking screen, and then the majority of the following Megs/Prime battle being off screen! They didn't treat their rivalry with enough respect imo

Some of the frantic camera work + the ultra detailed designs made some of the fighting confusing. I'm not the only one to think this.

Jazz's big fight with Megs - medium wide shot, needed more closeups on Jazz to give more impact

Barricade disappears. He's on his way to the final battle...but is never there. Has to be a big mistake there.

Also, Starscream just kind of disappears. The wrap up at the end feels rushed. If they had cut out some of the goofy comedy scenes that comprise this ultra serious film, they would have had more time to treat some things near the end with a little more respect.

Otherwise, I liked it enough to not be disgusted by it, was interested through the majority of it, and really appreciated the effects work. I don't know if it's just the bias towards the franchise but this definitely is my favorite Bay film. A lot of the actual TF stuff, even though I'm still no fan of the designs, was kind of cool to see on screen. Some of the fanwank was enough to make me feel they somewhat cared about keeping true to the spirit of TFs overall, almost.

I wish some parts were a little different or shot a little differently, but overall I think it was as fair an on screen adaption we could've hoped for, especially considering films like the first X-Men. (Sorry, personal bias against that film, it disappointed me big time)

The crowd loved it, laughing, cheering, and a standing O at the end.

I figured that was gonna happen. I knew it was way too much CGI work to pull off. The technology is here, but the man-hours it would take to pull off an entire fight scene on-screen is unbelievably huge. If you were to compare it to other CGI films, you'd notice that the scenes are usually wide shots needing less detail mixed with close-ups and normal shots that are a couple of seconds.

I'm pretty sure this is a franchise, so their should be alot more stuff included in the 2nd than this one. Just look at SW, Pirates, Harry Potter and stuff. Each one is better than the next when it comes to CGI.

So Don't fret! At least it was a first attempt.

What are you talking about

There's a lot of bot action going on, it's just the one fight that they just didn't show well enough. Before the part I'm talking about there had already been a shit load of fighting, it's a very extended scene. There was a lot of other stuff going on at the same time and they focused on that instead. During the Prime/Megs fight the soldiers were fighting Black Out, so yeah, the problem is not them simply not showing the robots, it was that the film makers didn't understand which part of the situation was more important to show. Megs vs. Optimus (which we do see SOME of, but not enough) > humans vs. Black Out

The effects work was actually very well done and I never said anything to imply that the effects team "cheated" by not showing anything. Watch it first before talking about that kind of stuff.

Prime's big "One shall stand" line being off fucking screen, and then the majority of the following Megs/Prime battle being off screen!

Some of the frantic camera work + the ultra detailed designs made some of the fighting confusing. I'm not the only one to think this.

Jazz's big fight with Megs - medium wide shot, needed more closeups on Jazz to give more impact

Barricade disappears. He's on his way to the final battle...but is never there. Has to be a big mistake there.

Also, Starscream just kind of disappears.I was referring to these points.

I wasn't saying they "cheated", just that they used shots with less work for better editing purposes.

Don't shoot me if videogame talk isn't correctly housed here. Just bitch at me and I won't do it again.

Is the camera godawful in the PS3 version of the game, Mark? I have to reset the camera every second of gameplay just to see what's going on (in the Wii version). It plays decent and looks okay but there is no reason I should have to be banging on the camera button more than any other :mad:

Barricade and Starscream, to me, feel like writing mistakes. There's plenty of Starscream at the end, but I never saw him actually getting away or anything. There's a lot of shit going on and I think they forgot some things in the shuffle. In the comic adaptation Barricade apparently fights Prime with Bonecrusher, but in the movie we don't really see where he goes. Maybe he'll be in the sequel?

The frantic shots - there's still insane amounts of detail in those shots. The amount of work was probably massive. The mistakes made in these scenes are by Bay not pulling the camera BACK enough, there was lots of stuff happening and the camera was too tight in considering you've got people, flying debri, and crazy robot parts taking up every inch of the screen.

The Jazz/Megatron fight was 'shot' to accomodate Megatron's huge size, there was plenty of work going on for Megatron. Again, just some bad directing, in my opinion, as a few close ups of Jazz during their battle would have added more emotional impact, but again, he chose to just show it wider because Megatron is fucking huge.

I know you didn't necessarily say they cheated but given what you did say it seemed you implied that, or felt like that's what I meant by anything I said, and I didn't. The effects work is crazy and I know ILM gave it their best effort

Knegative - you can talk about the TF game here, sure, this is FFS' mega everything TFs thread

If you wanted to see Starscream getting away you would have had to wait till after the credits.

I didn't because I heard there was nothing after the credits by people that saw it at Botcon, oh well

Don't shoot me if videogame talk isn't correctly housed here. Just bitch at me and I won't do it again.

Is the camera godawful in the PS3 version of the game, Mark? I have to reset the camera every second of gameplay just to see what's going on (in the Wii version). It plays decent and looks okay but there is no reason I should have to be banging on the camera button more than any other :mad:

No, camera sucks most of the time. I also have to reset it and trying to target an enemy is a bit of a pain as well. aside from that I'm having fun.


I didn't because I heard there was nothing after the credits by people that saw it at Botcon, oh well

during the credits, they show 2 small interviews, from "news reporters", of Sam's parents. They question what they know about the "aliens". Then you see Starscream zip off into space.

Barricade disappears. He's on his way to the final battle...but is never there. Has to be a big mistake there.

Also, Starscream just kind of disappears. The wrap up at the end feels rushed. If they had cut out some of the goofy comedy scenes that comprise this ultra serious film, they would have had more time to treat some things near the end with a little more respect.

I myself was wondering about that during the movie. I did see the scene of Starscream taking off into space. I also noticed that near the end when they were disposing of the decpticon hulks, Barricade's side door was among the pile which means he could have been toasted off screen. They also don't explain what happened to Scorpanok either. Regardless I did enjoy the movie and I kind of like the fact that in a strange way, they ended the movie just like the end of the "More than meets the eye" episode of the Transformers cartoon except there was no space cruiser.

Well, I figured out the camera. It's mapped to the reticle. ODD, but I can work with it now. I'm biased, but dammit the Jazz chapter is fun.

Ok, going to run some highlights of the Hasbro product unveiling panel from Botc

Classics

Best toy related news: Classics toy line will continue in 2008, released under the title "Universe"


YEESSSSSSSSSS

That is awesome. I'm really pleased by how much good news there is here. All of the TF news lately has been horrible for me so I was paranoid.

The only thing I really dislike about these announcements is they just highlight how disappointed I really am by the art style of the new show. It sounds like it has a TON of potential, and I am so sad that I will not be able to watch it without hating the way it looks the whole time. Maybe I'll try it anyway, but I don't know. It's impossible for me to take this sort of art seriously. =/

Well, I figured out the camera. It's mapped to the reticle. ODD, but I can work with it now. I'm biased, but dammit the Jazz chapter is fun.

Which Jazz chapter? Oh well, they're both fun! I'm just upset there's no online play so you and I can get in on it.



As for my thoughts of the movie, I liked it. I had fun and it was a great pop corn flick. I think maybe they should have thought twice before killing off Jazz since he is the only black autobot. And I'm quoting my buddy Daryl, who is black, on his bulletin, "and y did Jazz ( the one portrayed to be black, excuse me of african decent and or african american) the ONLY autobot that died...Get the hell out of here..." Like nobody would see something like that coming. Maybe the next movie will have Blaster and he'll survive.

The first one. Where you distract the cops. I didn't know there was another one. I'm working on the Ironhide stuff that immediately follows it, right now.

The stories might be different for different platforms. It was like that with Spidy3.

Nope, I think it's the same. I did the same thing. Race through city distracting the cops while hitting those marks. Then Jazz is getting his ass kicked by the Decepticons while you play as Ironhide protecting him.

Yep. I need to stay in the first area of the Ironhide chapter I'm in right now. I moved away last time and I didn't have any more trucks to fling at that cement-mixer.

Why do I have to fling stuff at bots that are smaller than Ironhide anyway? Bumblebee vs. Barricade, okay. And, if Jazz was fighting the guys Ironhide is dealing with, I'd understand it. I know it's a gameplay mechanic but it looks damn silly xD

You're trying to knock him down. As soon as he's down and you start to whale on him, you can pick him up and throw him.

If the cartoon has good story and all and is at least animated well despite the designs I should be able to get into it. It'll be the opposite of the last three shows, where the bots were pretty good looking but the stories (and sometimes animation, especially Armada's) weren't captivating enough for me.
A big plus Animated already has is the voice cast. It's got a lot of talented people on it so I'm sure it'll be well acted at least. The fact that they're all doing it together rather than each person in a room by themselves will really help the performances.

Yeah, that's exactly why I'm so sad though. It seems like every single thing is being done right except it looks like trash. I'd almost rather it just sucked in all respects than was a good show I can't stand to look at. >=/

So you prefer looks over storylines.
I totally disagree, I'd rather have a great storyline over the look of it.
This is why I hate the anime transformers (and a lot of newer anime).
It just seemed that silliness and flashy looks have taken over good storylines, when before there used to be a compromise.

Umm, I never said I prefer looks over storylines. I'd also rather have a better story than great art. The problem with this show isn't that I don't particularly like the art, it's that I think it's hideous, and trying to watch an animated series that looks hideous but has a great story is like listening to a great piece of music played on trash can lids.

(Setting aside the fact that music composed specifically for trash can lids could be sort of awesome...)

I get you! (sorry, didn't mean to sound generalizing)

All I can say is when it debuts,
sideline your thoughts 'till after you see the first couple of episodes.
who knows it might be good.

I was the same way when the comp. animated Beast Wars came on, thinking "How the hell can they animals", and how weird they looked.
But then when I saw it, It grew on me, and I continued watching.

But I liked the way Beast Wars looked immediately, myself. I never loved the way it looked, but I certainly enjoyed it. They did an awesome job of getting great expressions and keeping the art very slightly cartooney but not stupid looking.

SPOILERS AND SUCH

I liked it. Liked it alot. Prime saying "my bad" will warp your mind. I don't mind how they killed Jazz, just the way Prime handles it.

"oh look, Jazz is dead, but we met you dorky kids, so it's all good"

So blasphemous I want to buy another Jazz, pop out his waist pin and recreate the scene on my desk. *nods*

SPOILERS AND SUCH

I liked it. Liked it alot. Prime saying "my bad" will warp your mind. I don't mind how they killed Jazz, just the way Prime handles it.

"oh look, Jazz is dead, but we met you dorky kids, so it's all good"

So blasphemous I want to buy another Jazz, pop out his waist pin and recreate the scene on my desk. *nods*

As did I. The movie was fun and it still reminded me of all the things I loved as a kid. If I was to recreate a scene with Jazz, I think I'd have Megatron ripping his leg off.

Optimus didn't really mean "it's ok that Jazz is gone" per se but was probably ok with it to some extent seeing as how there was honor in it. Also, his line was a little more impactful than "oh, jazz is dead"

According to the G1 Jazz repaint that's coming Ratchet repairs him and he gets the new colors and such ( I believe there's also a new head ). I doubt he'll be in the next movie, but in some versions of the story he does make it.

That would be better, but I've already got Prime and Jazz, so you know, work with what ya got :p

But you and I still need to pick up another Jazz just to pull the scene off. I'm not about to break my Jazz until I get a 2nd one. lol.

hey, where are those chibi transformer pictures from anyway?

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=795912&postcount=1519

Choose wisely.

The real credit goes to lilformers.com. This one still is my favorite...

cool, thanks guys.

LOL, Mark. Combiners Gone Wild: Scramble City

Next time I go see the movie again, I'm recording the rest. I was able to record the first 53 minutes of it last night on my cell phone. I thought I ran out of memory on my phone memory stick, but it turns out I accidentally stopped the recording.

I guess I'll use this until my transformers fever goes away. You know, watching the movie makes me wish that I could have talked my parents into letting me keep my tranformers collection when we moved to Hawaii
Sigh.
P.S. K-Neg, I updated the picture if you wanted to see it. I did post it. Lol.

lilformers is pretty swell. A lot of users at TF boards use those avatars. I guess I'll use one, maybe we can get something going hurr

Probably seeing the movie film again today, maybe I'll like it more this time

Brimstone (there's a TF named Brimstone btw) I would've been pissed if anyone had made me give up any of my stuff, geez

I saw the movie yesterday myself. Even as determined as I was to like it, I still couldn't. The robots didn't bug me at all, oddly enough. It was the way they were handled by Bay and it was the ridiculousness of the script that got to me.

It was definitely overly silly, it was mostly a comedy, again, the total opposite of what I thought it would be after all the "HA! HA! THIS IS NO CARTOON" shit Bay kept saying in every single interview

Oh, I knew there was going to be a lot of silliness. I went in expecting it and was mostly entertained by those moments. It was all the serious bits and the action scenes that pissed me off.

I knew before seeing it that it ended up having lots of comedy but I had no idea it was soooooo much

It wasn't particularly bad I suppose, some of it got a smile out of me, and the crowd fucking loved it, but you know, I just thought it would have a more serious tone over all than it did

It's ok though I guess, I guess if it was all doom and gloom it would lose the mainstream appeal

Going to go look for Robot Heroes today. <3

I was really tempted to buy several of those last night. I ran into a big display of them while I was out buying groceries.

I suggest at least getting the Wal Mart exclusive, 5 of them for 10 bucks

Even though I live in the UK, I've still got a little while to wait for the movie to me. But I am sure as hell looking forward to it after what I have seen and heard (Minus the Negative comments)

Gang's all here!



Ravage is probably my favorite.







I also absolutely love Magnus's pose. I imagine he's about to say something very profound and insightful, but then all that comes out is, "Uh... I can't deal with that right now!"

I saw the movie yesterday myself. Even as determined as I was to like it, I still couldn't. The robots didn't bug me at all, oddly enough. It was the way they were handled by Bay and it was the ridiculousness of the script that got to me.

Just got back from seeing it myself and it still beats the shit out of everything else Micheal Bay has ever done.

Section 7 could have been left out entirely and the movie would have been a thousand times better, but I still really enjoyed it.

Or, you know, every single scene that didn't have one of the Transformers in frame.

All I know is, if they make one of those cell phone transformers, I want one. The tiny minigun and rockets were hilariously cute.

Oh, and Optimus vs. Barricade was great, even though it was really short. The nod towards the Energon Axe was pretty well done, I thought.

TK now you just need the exclusive set for Cliffjumper and Skywarp. The Mirage in the set is cool too because it's him in the middle of turning on his invisibility. Also, the Megs and Ops have metallic finishes.

I suppose my favorite of the Robot Heroes would be Shrapnel, or "Insecticon" as they call him

I saw the movie again just now, I don't know if I liked it any more than the first time but I still enjoyed it overall. I didn't see Barricade's car door at the end this time either, am I crazy?

I did stay for the little scenes during the credits this time

Noticed you guys are using the lilformers avatars. The link with them posted doesn't seem to have them all.

http://www.lilformers.com/goodavatars.php

So I thought I'd give you access to them :)

TK now you just need the exclusive set for Cliffjumper and Skywarp.

Yeah, I visited Wal Mart but they didn't have any. These things appear to be selling really well because every place I went only had a couple—in order to get all these, I had to visit Wal Mart, TRU, Target, and K Mart. I didn't think I was going to get Optimus/Ravage but K Mart saved the day at the end.

Whoa you really wanted them, haha. I'm sure you'll see the Wal Mart set eventually. If not you know I'll look here for you if you want, I wouldn't ask you to pay me back any more than what I paid of course, screw scalping. I'd possibly even just say HAVE IT DONT PAY ME BACK

haha, that's alright. Neither of the ones in that set are really that important to me so I won't be too mortified if I don't get it.

To be honest, the only reason I kept the search up so long was that I really wanted the Optimus/Ravage set, and it was the most elusive one.

Fine if you hate on fake Cliffjumper aka red Bumblebee but you NEVER disrespect the Warp. >:|

I will fight you to the death over this, sir, I will fight you...to the death

I didn't experience the shortages here at all, the local Wal Mart had plenty of them, and the one there was the least of here was Magnus/Megatron. Still, was able to find em all with relative ease.

Hasbro always has goofy distribution like that. I remember you saw Cybertron Wing Saber and I never did. It's always like that, some stuff doesn't show up in some places, or there's too little somewhere, too much elsewhere. There's always posts on the tf message boards like "OMIGAWD SMOKESCREEN SI CLOGGING TEH SHELVES" followed by "FUX U I CANT FIND HIMS"

Yeah.
I hate it when they do that,
I've found all of them except the alternative Lil' Optimus with Matrix.
Oh well, I'll be patient.

The HUNT is ON...

I mean

The HUNT CONTINUES!!!

(I know I said I'll never change avatars, but those Lil' Formers look cool, besides, I really like Devastator, especially the episode where the constructicons get amnesia)

You can always change back Vastalis





Movie Megs toys with redone paint jobs by fans. It looks much less like a pile of ass with appropriate colors. Still a pile of ass, but a better pile of ass than before. Hasbro should be ashamed of the production colors.

(I know I said I'll never change avatars, but those Lil' Formers look cool, besides, I really like Devastator, especially the episode where the constructicons get amnesia)

Devastator has always seemed so overrated to me. But what do I know, I like Computron and Monstructor o_O

It's not out in the UK for a few days/weeks yet so I'll have to wait a bit longer.

Devastator has always seemed so overrated to me. But what do I know, I like Computron and Monstructor o_O

I know Devastator is a favorite of many because he was simply the first combiner, and maybe to a lesser extent because he's a 6 bot combiner rather than the typical 5 that came afterwards. He's a lot more unique than the Scramble City guys.

Computron is probably the best of the toys, followed by Predaking I'd say.

In terms of favorites, they're all just hulking brutes aside from Computron, and he's just "smart", so not a whole lot of character development for any of them. Hard to pick a favorite, I guess it'd have to be mostly off of looks.

I know Devastator is a favorite of many because he was simply the first combiner, and maybe to a lesser extent because he's a 6 bot combiner rather than the typical 5 that came afterwards. He's a lot more unique than the Scramble City guys.

Computron is probably the best of the toys, followed by Predaking I'd say.

In terms of favorites, they're all just hulking brutes aside from Computron, and he's just "smart", so not a whole lot of character development for any of them. Hard to pick a favorite, I guess it'd have to be mostly off of looks.

I can understand why he's beloved (I think you hit the nail squarely on the head) and it does come down to looks, for me. I don't find Devastator aesthetically pleasing. Still, the Decepticons had a lock on the combiners in my opinion: Predaking, Piranacon, Monstructor. Outside of Computron, the Autobots just didn't impress me in that capacity.

I just thought I'd let you guys know, Bumblebee is cutest, k ^___^

You just gotta love those ugly shoes

Knegative I think after Computron, Defensor is probably my favorite Autobot combiner.

Later on in RiD/Car Robots they got a really, really awesome one: Rail Racer

He is pretty sweet, I have to admit. Whatever wave/generation Monstructor was in, that was the last time I collected Transformers, until now. The funny thing is, I like certain parts of Autobot gestalts, First Aid, and Fireflight, for example. I'm weird :p

Monstructor was just late G1, 1989, the second year they had Pretender toys out. I don't believe the character figured into the comics at all. The Japanese counterpart was actually a different character named Dinoking. That version really hadmuch cooler colors, not so garish. He was called Dinoking because they changed the pretender shells all the different parts belong to from monsters into dinosaurs.That character was actually in the TF: Victory cartoon, and I believe despite the ridiculously small size of the toy that he was portrayed as your average giant combiner.

Here's a picture of him

Yep. I liked the colors on the US release. He looks horribly bland there, imo. I'm not even sure why I love him so much. Maybe the novelty of having a combiner that small. I had a number of Pretenders and was never really pleased with the idea. Though, I lost my pretenders Starscream and rebought him myself, because well it was Starscream. First toy I ever had to rebuy. I was a pretty careful kid.

A million times better then the original toy colors. Now I want to do that.

Yep. I liked the colors on the US release. He looks horribly bland there, imo. I'm not even sure why I love him so much. Maybe the novelty of having a combiner that small. I had a number of Pretenders and was never really pleased with the idea. Though, I lost my pretenders Starscream and rebought him myself, because well it was Starscream. First toy I ever had to rebuy. I was a pretty careful kid.

I rarely like the toys that have the crazy garish colors so that's why I prefer Dinoking to Monstructor. The crazy neon colored TFs have their own charms, but I always prefer more subdued color schemes. I always quite like the pastel green/pink/blue/purple type Decepticons though, there's plenty of those through the 87-88 G1 releases, and a few in later years, such as Cybertron Hardtop.

MarvStraight, if you attempt that, good luck. I'd suggest taking it apart and such to get the best coverage.

I know Devastator is a favorite of many because he was simply the first combiner, and maybe to a lesser extent because he's a 6 bot combiner rather than the typical 5 that came afterwards. He's a lot more unique than the Scramble City guys.

Computron is probably the best of the toys, followed by Predaking I'd say.

In terms of favorites, they're all just hulking brutes aside from Computron, and he's just "smart", so not a whole lot of character development for any of them. Hard to pick a favorite, I guess it'd have to be mostly off of looks.Actually, I like Devastator cause he was made up of construction trucks. I always liked those trucks as a kid.

Devastator was always a cool name for really big transformer.

When I was a kid I used to draw comics where Devastator would just well devastate.

Prolly gonna catch the movie sometime today. FRIDAY. I heard mostly good things and i'll definitely try to help it beat out Ratatouille or whatever at the box office.

Weird. I drew comics where Devastator planted flowers and played with kittens

I thought all little boys did this :(

Lol. Joke?

For some reason I can imagine him actually doing that. Especially when I see the surprised expression on Devastator's face. I always felt bad when he got dismantled.

Unicron is teh sex :D

I kind of feel like Unicron is an incredibly over used plot device at this point, but he does look pretty cool

Weird. I drew comics where Devastator planted flowers and played with kittens

I thought all little boys did this :(
PIX OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

PIX OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN



happen'd

How many times have you won this thread, now? I lost count.

OMFG! That's awesome! You win. I think this beats out my MegaPrak.

Yes, I do agree Unicron has been way overused to the point were he has fallen to the copy virus that seems to permeate the realm of Transformers. If one side has a cool unique robot, the other side has to have their version of it. The Decepticons had Soundwave so the Autobots dug up Blaster, The Autobots had the dinobots who were animal-like transformers so the Decepticons got the Incecticons, and so on and so forth.
So they ended up making Unicron's double fricking Primus? Oh come on! They aren't even trying anymore.

EPIC WIN.

OMFG! That's awesome! You win. I think this beats out my MegaPrak.

Yes, I do agree Unicron has been way overused to the point were he has fallen to the copy virus that seems to permeate the realm of Transformers. If one side has a cool unique robot, the other side has to have their version of it. The Decepticons had Soundwave so the Autobots dug up Blaster, The Autobots had the dinobots who were animal-like transformers so the Decepticons got the Incecticons, and so on and so forth.
So they ended up making Unicron's double fricking Primus? Oh come on! They aren't even trying anymore.

To be fair, it's better than some other properties. Mortal Kombat comes to mind. Here's green ninja. He's different than red ninja, purple ninja, all black ninja, ninja with smoke around him, yellow ninja, blue ninja, female blue ninja, female green ninja, female purple ninja, female red ninja, etc etc etc etc

To be fair, it's better than some other properties. Mortal Kombat comes to mind. Here's green ninja. He's different than red ninja, purple ninja, all black ninja, ninja with smoke around him, yellow ninja, blue ninja, female blue ninja, female green ninja, female purple ninja, female red ninja, etc etc etc etc

I agree...the Transformer characters were added so things at least seem equal on both sides. The extraneous and arbitrarily colored ninjas for Mortal Kombat seem like total laziness...1/2 of the time, they were color swaps of another character.

Okay, if it's true about what you're saying that the transformers always had their answer to the other, then why is it that the Autobots never had a combiner till the Aerialbots' Superion way later?

Okay, if it's true about what you're saying that the transformers always had their answer to the other, then why is it that the Autobots never had a combiner till the Aerialbots' Superion way later?

He didn't mean literally

He didn't mean literallyOh!

But I always questioned that, and the fact that in like the first 2 or 3 episodes both the Autobots and Decepticons flew, and then all of a sudden the Decepticons flew, and the Autobots needed jetpacks to fly. Oh Well!

The most logical reason I can think of why the Autobots didn't have a combiner team immediately was that Devastator was already a pre-existing toy like a lot of the other early guys. There were a few toys they could've used, like the Trainbots from Headmasters, but seeing how none of them were released in the US, I guess Hasbro didn't like those toys, and simply worked on new ones with Takara, which is why you didn't have Autobot combiners showing up until late season 2.

Also - The Constructicons already had a nemesis before the Protectobots or Aerialbots debuted - Omega Supreme, a 1985 character (The Autobot combiners didn't come until 86). I guess he was meant to be the "answer" to Devastator, in a way, but I really don't think any of it was as calculated as "ok, we got animal Autobots, now we need animal Decepticons" and that sort of thing.

About the only Autobots that were sort of a match for them, were the Dinobots, but only because of their brute strength.

For a short while

In one episode Hound simply creates a hologram of a huge Autobot and that alone is enough to ward off Devastator until Prime can get down a precision shot to separate him back into the 6 individual robots.

I just saw the movie and it was super awsume!

BIASED. You only say that because you invented the Transformers (Thread 38546) and animated all of the ones in the film yourself, directed the thing, and gave birth to all the actors years ago via time travel.

silly boy!

BIASED. You only say that because you invented the Transformers and animated all of the ones in the film yourself, as well as directing the thing, and giving birth to all the actors years ago via time travel.

(for the uninitiated) (Thread 38546)

Rofl.

I just saw the movie and it was super awsume!

I will tomorrow. Will I be dissapointed?

nope

OMG what a cool car!

I AM CREATOR OF ALL THINGS

THINGS

Sup, Ash.


nope

OMG what a cool car!

Yeah I know. It's based off of this:

These style of cars always remind me of the ones in Deathrace 2000! lol

BIASED. You only say that because you invented the Transformers (Thread 38546) and animated all of the ones in the film yourself, directed the thing, and gave birth to all the actors years ago via time travel.

She's Shia's mother?!? SHE'LL DIE TONIGHT, YO.

I always end up eating my words. Shia did a bang up job, though acting like a bumbling loser isn't exactly a stretch for him. He did hefty fine.

Shia is so lucky to have a Bumble Bee car and Megan Fox in it. Movie was great. It could have been lots better though.

Every movie could have been better in some way or another

New G1 Movie Jazz pics





They's hurge

You always make my dreams reality. You do, you do.

The truck used to tow Bumblebee around in the movie is getting a toy, it just says "Orson's Towing" instead of Mike's, you guys have seen it right? I can't remember if I posted it here, I know I posted Dropkick. Too lazy to check.

When does the Mountain Dew machine get one? :p

DISPENSOR

Haha I don't think they're making that, but who knows



MP3 Soundwave with the original

Here's the truck - named Longarm. Is he in the game?







Has one of the best robot modes from the movie line imo

I know this guy is in the game:







Body is cool but I'm not huge on the drone head

Unfortunately, I had to take the game back last night. I really quite fell in love with it. When the price of used Wii games start dipping below the price of new ones, it shall be mine.

That Swat Van Transformer almost looks like Shockwave. Anyways I going shopping for transformers today.

I have joined your ranks transformer fans, I'm off to watch some more original episodes,.

I thought Longarm reminded me of someone...

Haha, I can see the resemblence.

And color those brows black and you've got yourself a fat Grimlock

You know what's fucking pathetic? That MP3 version of Soundwave is better than the damn 6" titanium one.

All Soundwave toys are, Action Master, G2 Gobot (Spychanger), etc

Yeah, but the thing is, the MP3 one should be the worst by all logic.

Wanna see how bored I am? ^__^ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNM2zuHbroI)

That's...yeah, that's bored

Oooookay!? :eye:

LOL!

So, I'm to believe that you had the time to do THAT, but you didn't have the 10 dollars and 10 minutes it would have taken to make the scene we really want?

So, I'm to believe that you had the time to do THAT, but you didn't have the 10 dollars and 10 minutes it would have taken to make the scene we really want?

Maybe I'm saving that for the big finale. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_robot-wink.gif

oooooooh

MarvStraight did you see the TF movie vehicles at the Arc-light?

Yes I did, in hollywood on Sunset Blvd. Today was the last day and I couldn't miss out. That big building thinggy covered with that giant Transformers advertisement was a block away. I took 2 pics of that and they're on myspace. Give me about 30 minutes and I'll have the videos I took from my phone online. ;)

Cool. I went there once when I lived in LA last year.

Here I am this morning.

Ratchet video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibndPPOAv7E)

Optimus Prime, Ironhide and Bumble Bee video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kAeyO9S4tw)

*squee!*

Oh God you're a real person living and breathing :o

Haha, awesome, I wish I could've seen them. I favorited the videos on there so you better not remove them a year from now >:|

Jazz not being there is still bugging me. When the best shake he's gotten in the whole movie shebang so far is a level in the game, something is wrong.

Or.....am I putting too much stock in the character? I do that. A lot. I do it in all kinds of media. Penelo is the most recent non-Jazz example. It's almost like I feel that some characters aren't going to get enough love otherwise, and it is my duty to make up for it.

But, Jazz WAS a big deal originally, right? I can't be the only kid who loved TF and Hong Kong Phooey.

Jazz is an important character, one of the higher ranking Autobots under Optimus, and in the current movie is technically second in command. It felt he was second in command in the original cartoon, at least at first, specifically the first few episodes, as well. One of the writers said at Botcon that there was more with Jazz, and the bots in general, written but it didn't all make the final cut. Maybe we'll get deleted scenes and such on the DVD.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=121589

If you have a few thousand extra dollars and you like movie Ironhide...throw down

The 70s camaro actually used in the film is being auctioned off too

And he got left out of the video on that site as well T_T

Sooo, regarding Ironhide:

1.) Do we get an autobot logo embossed on the tailgate?
2.) What no, gas-tank/missle launchers? :p

Durno



lulz

Ironhide is too damn huge for me. That truck is a beast in person.


Aww... look at Jazz in that Lil Formers comic. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_robot-sad.gif

I noticed in the movie how positively tiny Captain Lennox looked getting out of him at the end

Thanks again for the vids, almost liek being thurr, but through the eyes of yo phone.

I think I'm going to carve a new ava out of that comic.

I don't think I'll delete the videos. They're also on myspace for your viewing enjoyment.

Ba dum bum, moar MS Paint bots

hah, nice. I didn't get it at first and then I was like DIAPERS

Wallpaper'd

I got cast for more TF dub work recently, Scissorboy for Beast Wars II, and one that isn't a dub, an animated version of the War Within comics this guy is doing, as Gravitas, Kup, Skids, assorted dying bots and he said he'll probably give me Trailbreaker and Darklight as well. Hooray for sore throats!

nice. I've always wondered what BW2 was like.

So, I picked up this little beauty today

All you do is snap off his legs (ball joints, FTW) and fold his torso up behind his grill. Then he sits on Optimus's hand and makes me smile.

Looks kinda lame to me

Oh it is. But it is perfect for my purposes. Let me host this other pic, you're going to laugh pretty hard.

Or shake your head, either or.

Yeah, so what we moved the head to the back, we can always use ANOTHER grill on top :o

Boy that's a classy work of engineering

Tiny and cheap though, so can't blame em

Jazz is decent compared to Bumblebee. I wish I had a digital camera, I'd show you the finished product. It makes me happy, but we both know Mark will come through.

He will, he will.

I've seen them in stores and online, no big deal

Transformers!? :O

I love Transformers, ever since I was a wee child.

I remember my first one was a space shuttle.

Jazz not being there is still bugging me. When the best shake he's gotten in the whole movie shebang so far is a level in the game, something is wrong.

Or.....am I putting too much stock in the character? I do that. A lot. I do it in all kinds of media. Penelo is the most recent non-Jazz example. It's almost like I feel that some characters aren't going to get enough love otherwise, and it is my duty to make up for it.

But, Jazz WAS a big deal originally, right? I can't be the only kid who loved TF and Hong Kong Phooey.

Well, he did get ripped in half in the movie, what were they going to do, put the halves on display in the parking lot (though that would be pretty cool, too)?

Transformers!? :O

I love Transformers, ever since I was a wee child.

I remember my first one was a space shuttle.

Astrotrain?

Transformers!? :O

I love Transformers, ever since I was a wee child.

I remember my first one was a space shuttle.

Skylynx?

Transformers!? :O

I love Transformers, ever since I was a wee child.

I remember my first one was a space shuttle.

Blast Off?

sentence fragment?

Transformers!? :O

I love Transformers, ever since I was a wee child.

I remember my first one was a space shuttle.

Omega Supreme?

I think Omega Supreme is technically just a rocket

There was a micromaster space station with a similar rocket as well. The micromaster bot it belonged to was called Countdown.

There was also three Japanese only Transformers that turned into space shuttles, Galaxy Shuttle and Mach (part of the Landcross combiner team) from TF Victory, and Raker (part of the Sixwing micromaster combiner) from the early 90s. Raker was recently re-released in the US and UK as Stormjet in the Universe line. There's also the Battle Gaea (http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/manwood/484/TF/Battlestars.html#Battle%20Gaea) version of Blast Off known as Shuttle Gunner

There've been some since then but obviously they wouldn't apply to him having them in his childhood, as far as I know. Maybe the G2 version of Blast Off?

I totally forgot to post these parodies I saw on You Tube (http://www.youtube.com/user/DRSMOOV)!

I'm pretty sure you guys have seen these already,
but for those who haven't, enjoy!

1. This is still my favorite parody. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y)

2. A second Jazz has been picked up. I will be decapitating him soon for your entertainment.

3. My friend Joy got me a 29 1/2 year birthday present today... THE BARRICADE POLICE TRACK JACKET FROM HOT TOPIC! wOOt! FTW!

Yay!

In his spare time, Astrotrain stars in children's books

http://contentcafe.btol.com/Jacket/Jacket.aspx?SysID=buymusic&CustID=bt0109&Key=0060837748&Type=L&Return=1

:angel:

Token black guy.

I just watched that btw :D

I just watched this parody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvJuZbUN0rE&mode=related&search= It's pretty awesome.

I don't know if it's a parody per se, more like some nerd needed something new to jack off to

Eh. It's interesting to watch ether way.
Here's another amusing video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx0XxL8VFxM&mode=related&search=

does it make you squirt

I am so Marvin's bitch. He makes my dreams reality.

For the smoker/pyromaniac Transfan

It's funny cause it's true!

Rofl.

Lol Optimus Christ




For the smoker/pyromaniac Transfan

That is so cool. Makes me want to pick up smoking or even pyromania O_o

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6225620

CURIOUS.

Can't be G1 Magnus, no way he'd cost that much. Maybe it's the white MP one

Maybe Jesus could turn into a truck. I mean just because they never recorded that particular miracle...

and turning into a truck is hardly what makes Optimus awesome eh

My nephew got the Bumblebee vs. Barricade pack, Scorponox, Jazz, and Blackout movie toys for his birthday. I've got to say that I actually like the way they look and transform. Save for Barricade who I had problems trying to transform into a car, they're all pretty simple.

Deluxe Class Jazz takes a little finessing to reform the hood, but definitely pretty easy. I've decided that I want all the Autos, so that means I have to get Bumblebee :sad: I tried to find him yesterday morning, but the Target I went to had been raped.

All that was left was the Target Exclusives and Bonecrusher. No thank you.

Never let yourself feel like you have to get these things - it's a bittersweat disease that your wallet will hate you for

Yeah, I had the same problem last year by buying any cool anime resin kit I could get my hands on.
I blew about 400 bucks on kits alone, and was $150 in the red! :shock:

My spending habits are legendary. 50 more bucks on Transformers will not hurt me any, but I understand exactly what you mean. I'm just glad I let go of Final Fantasy before I bought tons of shitty spin-offs.

I genuinely want Ratchet and Ironhide. Buying Bumblebee for completion doesn't really bother me that much.

Maybe at least wait for the 08 car version?

The thought had crossed my mind, yes.

Kind of a LOL post at TFW I want to share with you guys. None of you could see it otherwise, it's on the private contributor only board. Unless some of you are secretly a contributor there :o

"So, while at Botcon I had the oppurtunity of a LIFETIME to snap a picture of Peter Cullen NEXT to the Optimus Prime truck. And I freaking BLEW IT! At the time, I had the flash off my camera since I was trying to take some good, natural pictures of the truck. Kev shouts to me that Cullen is coming and after much convincing (he was being ushered around by FP) I snapped a quick picture forgetting I didn't have my flash on. Well, with me being in a hurry and him being in a hurry my camera's shutter speed was too slow and what you see is what I got. Man, I'm so mad.



It really is too bad it didn't turn out, but looking at the picture, and considering the situation, I'm seriously loling here

Demon ghost Cullen phasing into the next realm :o

I LOVE TO TRANSFORM!