That might be a little better, but the problem is his hip joints are so low. He basically needs not only less penis size but longer legs.

Maybe I will try to fuze my crappy Optimus deluxe from the Optimus/Megs 2-pack with him somehow.

Well the obvious solution is to extend his thighs a bit and make it so they can slide out.

With longer thighs and that goofy bit chopped off the bottom of the crotch it'd look much better. Not perfect, but better. I don't know why they couldn't have just made it like that.

Looks a lot better that way.

MAKE IT HAPPEN

I might try to do that.

I'm sure my dad has proper equipment to cut die-cast metal lying around somewhere.

Oh, it is diecast. ;-;

I don't think 6" Titaniums are entirely die cast though. I'm not sure which parts of him are. His crotch may be all plastic. That would make it a lot easier.

NEW TEASER TRAILER!!! (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html)

THE OFFICIAL SITE ALSO NOW SHOWS CYBERTRON!!!

I saw that earlier. It mostly looks like crap, although I did laugh at the sheer stupidity of that soldier's warning to the (nonexistent, I guess) helicopter crew.

They all look like General Grievous' cousins or sumshite.

That line definitely was hilarious, lols.

Hilarious in a bad way :(

I know that the designs aren't exactly kosher, but I have to admit i'm rather impressed by the CG work.

They're growing on me. I'm starting to like them.

Well I'm glad for you then. Try not to get your hopes up too much though, a few quick shots is hardly enough to gauge quality with.

They've updated the trailer now with Cullen's voice at the end.

They've updated the trailer now with Cullen's voice at the end.

Where? I hear no Optimus. Shenanigans! :p

Supposedly Titanium Rodimus is out now but I couldn't find him anywhere. =/

TRU had Soundwave. I don't know if this is really true but it seemed like he actually looked even worse in person.

Where? I hear no Optimus. Shenanigans! :p

It's on the official movie site.

TK, did you laugh?

I was closer to crying. ;_;

So I found the Masterpiece Optimus that was rereleased for the DVD 20th anniversary.

I bought it.

I am allowed to open it on christmas.

^_^

Did you scoot across the floor like a dog in happiness?

TK I am sorry for your torturous experience.

I dove at it.

And held it in my arms like a child for the duration of being in that shop.

Cumshot

Ok, so apparently the new trailer has broken the download record for movie trailers "by a landslide." How did this happen? Surely it couldn't have been the charismatic charm of "WE WILL KILL YOU" army guy...or could it?

I'm imagining it was like, Something Awful linked it as awful link of the day or something.

<a href=http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=6907&pic=CIMG6605.JPG&dispsize=800&start=0>lololololol.</a>

MP Megs is shit. Takara can suck my butt feathers.

If the robot was cool I wouldn't give a damn about the gun mode having to be so large, but alas.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/69/bumblebee1502az2.gif

Crappy designs or not, in my opinion, it looks like the ILM guys are giving their all with the animations. Maybe the CGI will be good enough to dilute the cringefest at least a tiny bit. This image is TFW tagged as it's supposed to only be for TFW donators such as myself, but I'm sharing anyway. SHH DON'T TELL.

Okay so I got that Soundwave and after thoroughly examining him, I've realized that to do the edit we were talking about up there, you'd have to make him untransformable. The reason for his diapers is apparently that you have to slide ihs legs all the way down that massive crotch. I don't know if there's any way to fix it. =(

TK I want your babies.

TK I'm sure there's a possible fix. Whether or not any of us here are worthy of finding it though...quite questionable.





Compared to the early photos of him, apparently there's some differences that seem to also be found in the quick back shot of him in the trailer. It's still a spindly mess but every little change helps a bit. It is looking *slightly* better.

I guess. To me it all looks more or less the same. I think the only reason this one looks better is because so much of it is in shadow it looks more solid than it is. =/

Yeah, you're definitely right about that. The changes are more obvious when you can see comparison shots though. Some of that stuff is floating around other board discussions. I didn't see it fit to carry the same over, as I don't want this to just be a mirror of everything else out there.

A lot of people are saying the head is different but I'm not sure. It still looks like it has that droopy/long aesthetic. Judging from the initial leaked design pictures of his back and the new shot from the trailer the head has clearly changed to some degree, but how much is hard to tell. I believe the shadows are tricking people a bit, but there are some definite differences, such as the chest, shoulders, and smokestacks, as well as the flame patterns.

Prime doesn't look that bad. Live action is still another animal though. I'm kinda pissed at the way they went about reviving the franchise Ktulu but these are the days for some of our favorite characters of youth to get some props. Sad they've already botched most of my favorites, like x-men. 90210 with super powers.

Reviving the franchise - You mean Beast Wars? They've been popular again, increasingly so, since then, and TFs never really went away in the first place. In the US there has only been one year since 1984 with no toy releases, and there's been a TF cartoon on the air for 10 straight years now. What exactly do you mean by how they revived it?

I guess I was thinking about the movie part of the franchise. The first and last in the U.S. was back in the 80's right? In my opinion it could never be topped today no matter how hard they tryed. They brought it back alright but damn. July 4th decides if hollywood gives a crap about us 80's kids or not. Really, they haven't been.

Transformers almost killed my friend ;_;;

Spiderman321M: i think i almost stabbed myself in the lung with scissors
Pomatoz: OMG WHY
Pomatoz: DONT DO THAT EMO KID
Spiderman321M: blame a titanium optiumal optimus that wont come out of the damn plastic

Titanium Optimal Optimus is so ugly, I'd want to stab myself too if I had bought it.

me2 tk i don't like ugly toys

Titanium Optimal Optimus is so ugly, I'd want to stab myself too if I had bought it.


The first and last in the U.S. was back in the 80's right?

No. Ktulu just explained that there have been Transformers toys and TV shows made constantly for the past 20 years or so. All through the 90s and as long as the 2000s have gone on, Transformers has persisted, and it has remained popular.

The toys have generally gotten better. The TV shows... well, Beast Wars was amazing, and all the shows after that have been weak in my opinion. Next year a new one comes out and I'm crossing my fingers it won't suck.

I'm sure the new cartoon will be better than the last 3 at the very least. Taking it out of the kiddy anime realm is the best thing to ever happen. I love anime, but when anime is made just for kids, damn it...it's fucking lame. The TF shows of recent years have suffered greatly from this, and I know simply changing that will give the show a much better chance of not totally sucking donkey balls.

Yeah, but the only thing is, I'm not yet convinced that it's really going to move out of that realm.

The trend in American animation these days is to immitate "anime" and produce an aesthetic and storytelling style that I really hate. I don't want it to be anything like Teen Titans or whatever other shows are on Cartoon Network nowadays.


Also: Grimlock.

<img src=http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/alabasterperapets/christmas001.jpg>

Love this guy. He is probably my second favorite Classics figure right after Optimus. Though I don't have Jetfire yet.

I liked Teen Titans :D

Anyway he is pretty cool looking but I don't have him yet. Maybe I'll find him soon. I haven't picked up the single packed Optimus or Jetfire either. My favorite of the ones I actually have is honestly Mirage, something I never expected.

Am I crazy or does Megs not look that bad here in duder's hands?



Here's one explaining why the scope is so large, it has a LED laser pointer gimmick.

There was also some more movie toy pictures today but it was the same characters we've seen and they still blow really bad :(

Damn, I'm slow...


Several other cartoon voice actors such as Scatman Crothers (Jazz), Chris Latta (Starscream), Don Messick (Ratchet), and Johnny Haymer (Vortex/Blackout) are deceased.

I had no idea.

still looks pretty bad to me, Ktulu. The legs are still puny. =(

I got Jetfire today. He's so great. I still can't find Titanium Rodimus though and I'm paranoid that I'm never going to. ;(

The legs are still puny. =(

I think it looks better in that shot because of the angle the right lower leg is showing. It doesn't show the crappy inner leg.

That angle was probably chosen intentionally. The placement of that hand so that it blocks the inner left leg is just too convenient to think otherwise. They're obviously trying to hide how ugly the legs are, which shows that they're aware of the problem, but just couldn't be bothered to fix it.

No. Ktulu just explained that there have been Transformers toys and TV shows made constantly for the past 20 years or so. All through the 90s and as long as the 2000s have gone on, Transformers has persisted, and it has remained popular.

The toys have generally gotten better. The TV shows... well, Beast Wars was amazing, and all the shows after that have been weak in my opinion. Next year a new one comes out and I'm crossing my fingers it won't suck.

I'm talking about the Transformers movies. I know all about the shows (hated beast wars) but there was only one movie in the states right?

Ah, yes. There was only one movie.

That angle was probably chosen intentionally. The placement of that hand so that it blocks the inner left leg is just too convenient to think otherwise. They're obviously trying to hide how ugly the legs are, which shows that they're aware of the problem, but just couldn't be bothered to fix it.

You sir get a FO SHO

Damn, I wish I knew whereall my old transformers toys were.. been a fan since G2 (The era I was born in.) but I didn't really become a huge fan until I saw Beast Wars. I watched that cartoon from beginning to end on TV, and well it's my favorite series. The new moive looks kickass and right now? I'm watching Beast Wars DvDs. Life is gewwd. :D

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?p=982876

A WHOLE MESS O PICS

Of Classics Constructicons.

I wish it wasn't just a repaint, but it's cool that it's sold as a set.

Just doesn't look classicey enough for me. I don't like the aesthetic of it too much.

Bound to happen when you use toys from two years ago :(

This color scheme works a lot better than the original though. They should have done them that way to begin with.

Link to original color scheme?

Link to original color scheme?

http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act285/
http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act286/
http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act287/
http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act288/

The main guy isn't that different but the limbs are better this time around I think, at least in that it'll look better when combined. Also note that these are the Japanese versions, including subtle differences from the US releases, but in general they're basically the same.

Anyway, tonight I went to TRU where they had a buy 2 get 1 free sale. I bought 4 and got 2 free. I picked up Classics Optimus and Jetfire (they were out of Megatron), Grimlock and Starscream, and Cybertron Smokescreen and Monkey Optimus. Classics Optimus and Jetfire definitely took over Mirage's spot as my favorite in the line. Jetfire's detail is amazing. Once I get Megatron I'll have all of them that've been released so far barring the mini-cons and the 20th Prime re-release, but I don't really count those since they're just line filler.

I don't think Grimlock is out in Aus. I want one.

But I am getting Starscream and Astrotrain next week.

Grimlock is my least favorite so far. He's almost really cool but the legs bother me a lot.

I like his legs! I think Astrotrain has the worst legs of the bunch. :P

Oh well :D I like Astrotrain a lot more than most people it seems, though it is very obvious that he's the least stylish of the bunch. It really feels like he's from another, older toyline, but I still like him. It may be that he was my first Classics toy, I don't know, but I just can't get into a "rargh Astrotrain sucks" mode.

Official movie site has clips of Cullen reading the top entries from the "submit a line for Optimus" contest. I haven't listened yet, have any of you?

I'm really looking forward to Ramjet.

I definitely don't think Astrotrain sucks. I like him. But I do think he is probably the weakest of the classics figures I have. I'm inclined to think I dislike Mirage more because of the anorexia and all, but admittedly I haven't seen him in person.

And I still can't find a damn 6" Titanium Rodimus. I am going to be very put out if I can't. =(

Official movie site has clips of Cullen reading the top entries from the "submit a line for Optimus" contest. I haven't listened yet, have any of you?

Optimus Prime saying "That's the way I roll" = Hilarity.

I've not seen any Titaniums in my area at all, maybe they weren't very high on the list of toys retailers were ordering this Christmas?

That's the way I roll, lollin

I never see very many of them. And Rodimus isn't the only one I've never seen at all, same goes for Scourge (naturally it would be the only two I really want to buy.)

Also, I noticed something: In <a href=http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/imagehosting/441824596dc0db9d62.jpg>this pic</a> it looks like not only does Ramjet not have the fuzzy/indistinct face problem of Starscream, but it seems Skywarp doesn't either. Could just be the photography but his face looks a lot clearer than Screamer's. What the hell happened to Starscream anyway. That's so annoying.

In Ramjet's case it's probably because the black is painted on rather than it being the dull color the plastic was molded in. I know that's Starscream's problem, the grey plastic the toy is molded in totally washes out the detail. As for Skywarp looking better, I have no idea. It's potentially molded in different plastic, or perhaps we've only seen prototype/test shot pictures that are inevitably going to look better than what's released. It's also possible his face is painted silver.

I noticed last night with Starscream that shading the light over the head causes the facial features to show up fine, but uncover it and they disappear again. It really is annoying. I'm considering painting over it or giving it a wash to bring the detail out, but I'm worried I'll ruin it.

Back on Tits - I saw a shit load of Scourges in Los Angeles. If I'd known you wanted him I would've picked one up.

Ah, thanks. That's alright though, I only want him enough that if I saw him I'd get him... I'm not going to be worried about it if I never get him.

I might just resort to ordering Rodimus online somewhere though because I cannot miss getting one of those. =(

The past few days I've bought a lot of this crap. While I'll never sell what I have, as I didn't buy them with that sort of intention, I'm really questioning whether or not I can keep up collecting them in such a gung ho manner. I pretty much let myself get broke over this crap and it's really getting silly. My finances can't really keep up, so something probably needs to change. Take into account my limited space too, and it's just a big pile of shit.

That in mind, I went and bought a crap load of stuff today anyway. I picked up all the deluxe Cybetron toys I didn't have from Wal-Mart and Classics Megatron. Hooray.

I'm sure you'll find Roddy, TK. I don't imagine it's still really in wide release yet. Don't resort to online just yet. Who knows, and if it shows up here I'll grab one to send you.

double de posta

I try to keep myself limited to what I call "scrupulous collecting" with anything I spend money on. As in I only let myself buy the stuff that I really think is the best, and leave things I think are "kind of cool" alone for the most part (with the occasional spur of the moment purchase being allowed through for fun).

Thanks for offering to keep an eye out. If you're sure you don't want him yourself, that's cool, but if you want one, by all means get it for yourself if there's only one.

I have 0 Titaniums right now. If there's only one, I'll get it for you. I know you want it way more than me, plus, I figure why start there if I've already missed so many anyway you know?

I buy the ones I like.

I like them all

...

More or less

Hey guys!!!!!!!!!
So i was just reading your postsLOL and i have to say wow arent transformers just awesome LOLOLOLOLOL?!?!?! I mean, I would sooooooo much rather spy on Optimus Prime than, oh i dunno, maybe encounter a girl for the first time in my life. Well, I'm gonna go jack off to popular electronics magazine. Later LOL


The REAL Optimus Prime.

Hey guys!!!!!!!!!
So i was just reading your postsLOL and i have to say wow arent transformers just awesome LOLOLOLOLOL?!?!?! I mean, I would sooooooo much rather spy on Optimus Prime than, oh i dunno, maybe encounter a girl for the first time in my life. Well, I'm gonna go jack off to popular electronics magazine. Later LOL


The REAL Optimus Prime.

Well, I for one, am married and expecting a child.

BUT THANKS FOR STOPPING BY, INTERNET BADASS.

Hey guys!!!!!!!!!
So i was just reading your postsLOL and i have to say wow arent transformers just awesome LOLOLOLOLOL?!?!?! I mean, I would sooooooo much rather spy on Optimus Prime than, oh i dunno, maybe encounter a girl for the first time in my life. Well, I'm gonna go jack off to popular electronics magazine. Later LOL


The REAL Optimus Prime.

I'm sure you felt really cool sitting there in front of your computer on the final fantasy forum executing a raging dose of burnsauce on us silly geeks.

I'm sure you felt really cool sitting there in front of your computer on the final fantasy forum executing a raging dose of burnsauce on us silly geeks.

Haha

Man if this guy only knew what hot bitches there are in Transformers

Arcee and Blackarachnia

YOWZA

For real

I love you guys. <3

hahahahah

also I would just like to make it known that I think guys who are into transformers are STUDMUFFINS and someone not liking transformers would probably be a dealbreaker.

I know Ndi, the whole TF thing is the epitome of sex these days. It's even hit the porn scene. Gone is the old "spread eagle" pose in Hustler and such, now it's all about twisting and turning those long, wet bodies from harlot to race car and back again!

For further proof of the hotness to be found in the TF mythos itself, just check out the lips on Chromia here:



:swoon:

A girl once told me she wanted to date me after seeing my Transformers collection. True story.

I'm sure you felt really cool sitting there in front of your computer on the final fantasy forum executing a raging dose of burnsauce on us silly geeks.



Hey douchebag---I DID!

also I would just like to make it known that I think guys who are into transformers are STUDMUFFINS and someone not liking transformers would probably be a dealbreaker.

Ok miss muffin, let's just say that I'm SO glad you aren't into me after I just saw your picture. Maybe you can--transform--yourself into something resembling a girl.

A girl once told me she wanted to date me after seeing my Transformers collection. True story.



Aw I'm sorry...I HATE it when my mom cleans my room at the wrong time of day! :(

What's going on here :(

so are you a lesbian or are you a man named lauren?

Seems like he/she is really into both Chromia and Optimus Prime

must be bisexual

a bisexual robot lover....

wowsers.

plus beastiality in Blackarachnia's case.

Haha great edit.

ALSO

What is the episode where they get drunk on the energon called?

I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

Ktulu says it is called "Microbots"

Indeed he does

Great.

Are there any other crazy episodes like that?

Uh

There's one where some girl falls in love with Powerglide if you count that as crazy?

Oh thats right.

And hoist goes to hollywood is pretty kooky.

And the one where the hovercraft minibot falls in love with that alien mermaid is pretty kooky too.

Well guys my FAV episode is that one where the 37 year old man who still watches transformers every day never meets a girl in his life and has to resort to jerking his inch long twig off with a tweezer...oh wait i forgot thats actually your situation!

That one was good lauren but BOT was a little cooler cause that redhead guy kept saying "PRAHTECHTABOTS" when he was talking about the Protectobots and that was fucking cool to me. They dropped the name like a million times, typical Hasbro fashion right, BUY THIS NEW TOY IT'S A 100 DOLLAR BOX SET YEAHHHHHH

I like the episode where the autobots learn all about dinobots and they build some but then the dinobots go crazy but everything works out in the end.

That happened a lot eh, remember that one where Megatron tricked Grimlock into thinking he was better than Optimus but then at the end Optimus and Grimlock made out

I get a little misty eyed when I see that one

I like the episode where the autobots learn all about dinobots and they build some but then the dinobots go crazy but everything works out in the end.

ok you have got to be kidding me. go out for a run. shoot some hoops. drink some beer. get some skeet. but please...explain why in the world your lives are consumed by a japanese tv show. come on now. i might have to chop off my weiner.

Optimizzzle Primizzle

what is skeet

also does this mean you are a boy named lauren

OMG Chromia has the best chasis out of all the Autosluts.

Well guys my FAV episode is that one where the 37 year old man who still watches transformers every day never meets a girl in his life and has to resort to jerking his inch long twig off with a tweezer...oh wait i forgot thats actually your situation!

you're the one who has the unhealthy obsession with the name, avatar and sig, mate

oh wait.....lol

lauren I have to say I really dig the new look


OMG Chromia has the best chasis out of all the Autosluts.

Hell yeah. I wouldn't mind linking up parallel ports with her, iykwim.

Put your floppy in the a-drive innit

you're the one who has the unhealthy obsession with the name, avatar and sig, mate

oh wait.....lol

hey queer!

so lets talk about unhealthy obsessions...oh yeah, thats right i dont have man pictures of captain douche or whatever his star trek name is as my picture thing. i dont even know what an avatar is, since i dont regularly masturbate to a dictionary. THIS GOES FOR ALL TRANSFORMERLVOERS: if you guys want to talk, email me at [email protected] would love to talk about why robots make me horny.

love,
oliver closeoff

sendin' you an email big boy :*

sendin' you an email big boy :*

still waitin for that email. Oh hey by the way, little penis, i'm not your big boy.

wow, this thread has taken a lollin turn

tk, what have you done? roffle.

rofl.

still waitin for that email. Oh hey by the way, little penis, i'm not your big boy.

You can be my big girl if you want ^_^;;

You can be my big girl if you want ^_^;;

hey there mr extententialist philosopher. i see you have thousands of posts on this page, and i'm pretty shocked by that. how old are you---25, 30? Most people grow up from playing with kids toys at about age 10. Still waiting for your email, but you can leave out the robot porno this time ;)

Love,
Dad

Starscream movie toy. Now in color!

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=119001

Ratchet prototype

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=118998

So guys, here is what we do.

We take the following email, [email protected], and sign it up to as many dirty e-newsletters and free subscriptions as we can.

Then, we lol.

WHATS SKEET

WHATS SKEET

An urban, hip-hop term for a man's ejaculation.

^To the movie toys post:

Starscream remains atrocious, while Ratchet is almost tolerable and the best one I've seen by far. Not all good though, he still has a horrible head design like the rest (the one shown there is different than the design art, and worse) and why the hell is he green? Yeah, we've seen the design already, but the toy makes the "HAHA I AM YELLOW-GREEN" statement even louder.

A repaint and it will be fine.

Well, a new head sculpt and a repaint.

Starscream is beyond salvation.

G1-esque head with G1-esque colors for Ratchet would probably look schpiffle (good)

I agree about Screamer. What a pile of ass :( Such a great character to look so shitty, I can't believe anyone involved in the making of this film thought that looked cool.

This thread just got sexy.

Spike's Exo-suit would look Even sexier (http://thepete.com/real-life-exo-suit/) on me.

So guys, here is what we do.

We take the following email, [email protected], and sign it up to as many dirty e-newsletters and free subscriptions as we can.

Then, we lol.

hey thanks for the email bro. too bad you're too much of a pussy to actually talk to me. oh and hey, about the porn, next time i want to see what your mom looks like, i'll ask her myself!

Oh my. So some random cunt is trying to play internet badass by throwing pathetically bad insults at people who don't care in the slightest and probably find it funny that anyone could be such a convincing argument in favor of eugenics waiting to happen.

An urban, hip-hop term for a man's ejaculation.

It is also part of Popeye's muttering when he's walking down the street.

"Oh a-skeet'n and a-scat'n and a-skippin' along the road".

So it kind of pre-dates your stupid nigger bullshit.

Check the public domain cartoons (http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aclassic_cartoons%20A ND%20subject%3A%22popeye%22).

Oh my. So some random cunt is trying to play internet badass by throwing pathetically bad insults at people who don't care in the slightest and probably find it funny that anyone could be such a convincing argument in favor of eugenics waiting to happen.

two questions. one- what the hell is eugenics. two---arent transformers marketed to eight year olds? yeah, thought so.

Why do people want to make every word into a slang word for semen anyways? You have enough words that mean semen. Save some words for other stuff. ; ;

I am still so bummed out over finding out they stole spunk. ; ; I loved the word spunk.

Why do people want to make every word into a slang word for semen anyways? You have enough words that mean semen. Save some words for other stuff. ; ;

I am still so bummed out over finding out they stole spunk. ; ; I loved the word spunk.


In 40 years "fuck" will mean love Ndi, don't be so sad.

Why do people want to make every word into a slang word for semen anyways? You have enough words that mean semen. Save some words for other stuff. ; ;

I am still so bummed out over finding out they stole spunk. ; ; I loved the word spunk.

I bet you still love the word, current meaning and all.

Oh hey do you see what I did there?

two questions. one- what the hell is eugenics. two---arent transformers marketed to eight year olds? yeah, thought so.

Question 1 -

:D

Question 2 -

All Transformer products are not marketed towards children. There are many toys geared towards adult collectors and comics geared more towards adults as well. Also, the Beast Wars/Machines television shows were much more maturely written than your standard action cartoon fare, and while still a "kid show," the original series was written in a manner that a large age range could enjoy rather than having overly dumbed down dialouge just for the sake of kids, especially when compared to many current cartoons.

In 40 years "fuck" will mean love Ndi, don't be so sad.

That makes me think of this. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GYZ2jujpFpE) :)

! Just like Transformers used to refer to these:

! Just like Transformers used to refer to these:



OH GOD

THAT TRANSFORMERS HAS THE BEST SHAPE EVER

IT MAKES ME WANT TO SKEET MY SPUNK EVERYWHERE

In 40 years "fuck" will mean love Ndi, don't be so sad.

That already happened over 10 years ago. lol.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VR8a8nxerjw

All Transformer products are not marketed towards children. There are many toys geared towards adult collectors and comics geared more towards adults as well. Also, the Beast Wars/Machines television shows were much more maturely written than your standard action cartoon fare, and while still a "kid show," the original series was written in a manner that a large age range could enjoy rather than having overly dumbed down dialouge just for the sake of kids, especially when compared to many current cartoons.

I rest my case. Thank you for proving me right. I'm going to do something more entertaining, such as poking myself in the eyes.

oh damn, we'll miss you

I suggest registering at an anime forum and asking them if they know they watch cartoons!

I rest my case. Thank you for proving me right. I'm going to do something more entertaining, such as stabbing myself in the hart.

$DGZH&#$&%FIX'D:smrt:^*(&*)(*)(YHGSZBF

WTF?! (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=119085)

MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!

WTFers!!?? (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=119093)

I suggest registering at an anime forum and asking them if they know they watch cartoons!

lol

http://www.transformers-movie.jp/top.html

Japanese version of the trailer with some additional scenes



WHO YOU CALLIN UNCRAZMATIC?

Awesome

At least we got to see the face of bubblebee and Spielberg and Bay talk Jap!. XD

Anyways, i have to say that the new Transformers design is growing on me. But this is coming from someone who likes the series but isn`t addicted to it. So in that case i won`t be too let down if it turns out to be shite.

Alt Rumble definitely still looks like ass to me.

Gotta love "unchrazimatic" though.

I'm just glad it's another Decepticon, not nearly enough in Alternators. I wonder if he'll get the obvious repaint?

Hook: Nobody would follow an uncharismatic fool like you!
Rumble: Hey! Nobody calls Soundwave un-cruzimatic!

:-P

Ho no



The holy grail and son

They did a pretty impressive job of getting it to look the same, only cooler.

Also: I'm pretty sure it's "uncharasmatic bore" but I could be wrong

They did a pretty impressive job of getting it to look the same, only cooler.

Also: I'm pretty sure it's "uncharasmatic bore" but I could be wrong

That I agree with.

It is indeed uncharismatic bore.

TK the vehicle modes look even more alike. The robot mode is a good mix of the original toy (Jetfire) and cartoon (Skyfire) designs. It's almost 100 percent accurate to his current comic design as well.

Didn't the IDW comics actually use the classics design as a basis for him, though?

Speaking of which, I never mentioned it but I got the first TPB of the IDW comics and I actually really like it. My first impression was too many humans, but once you get into it that stops being the case. I'm actually really excited to see where it's going, but I'm just going to wait until the next TPB comes out instead of getting the issues themselves. Too much work, and I've already got too much other stuff to buy as it comes out. Seems like it's going in a really great direction though, and I like both the art and the writing a lot more than the Dreamwave stuff.

The design showed up first in the comics, but in one drawn by Don Figueroa who also designed the toy so I imagine given the time it takes to produce toys that it was just decided right away to use it for both some time ago.

I'm glad you lieks de comics, I'm going to get around to reading more of them eventually.

Hmmm If only (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6848826826077705214&q=transformers)

Michael Bay would say that looks far too cartoony

Anyway, the Empire magazine article has been scanned:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261356

http://www.amazon.co.jp/Meet-the-Decepticons-Transformers/dp/0007251084/sr=8-14/qid=1167953849/ref=sr_1_14/503-1653677-6211103?ie=UTF8&s=english-books

http://www.amazon.co.jp/Meet-the-Autobots-Transformers/dp/0007251076/sr=8-19/qid=1167954024/ref=sr_1_19/503-1653677-6211103?ie=UTF8&s=english-books

http://www.amazon.co.jp/Movie-Storybook-Transformers/dp/0007251033/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_1/503-1653677-6211103

Lollin that something looking like Barricade is gracing the cover of a kiddy book

gahahaha.

That is so weird looking. I would never buy that for a kid. ;_;

TOTALLY A MY LITTLE PONY IN THE TRANSFORMERS MOVIE

TOTALLY

Ultra Magnus vs. Skywarp Classics 2 Pack is out in Hong Kong, meaning it'll be here soon. I like most am not excited about another white Optimus as Magnus, though it does look cool that way (to me) and Skywarp is a must have for me so I'll definitely be on the look for one. Too bad it's a Target exclusive, I missed the last one.

Yeah, I have to admit Skywarp is really cool looking.

Dunno if I'm going to bother paying for a white Optimus just to get him though.

You could always sell/trade the Magnus at the TFW boards. Lots of customizers on there that like to buy doubles and such, plus there may be someone, for some reason, that wants Magnus but not Skywarp.

"Fans rejoice, the movie gods have listen to you, okay maybe it was just Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg who listened, but word is that Frank Welker will be the leader of the Decepticons, Megatron.


Multiple studio sources have confirmed to the IESB that Frank Welker is days away from signing on the dotted line to voice our beloved robotic villain of the 80’s, Megatron, in the upcoming Michael Bay film Transformers.

We know that since day one it has been the desire of Producers Don Murphy and Tom DeSanto to bring Peter Cullen and Frank Welker both back to the franchise that they helped build.

One of our sources tells the IESB that Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg never expected the legions of Transformers fans to rally behind both Frank and Peter the way they have, fans have been vocal and their message went all the way to the top. We should expect an official announcement very soon.

It seems like forever ago when we first brought our readers the news about a live action Transformers movie. Then, Variety reported that Michael Bay was in negotiations to direct and finally our notorious interview when we confirmed that Michael Bay would indeed be directing the film.

Fast forward to the present, the film is in post-production and we are just a few months away from seeing giant fuckin’ robots on the big screen. I’m stoked! Does anybody still use that word?"

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_d4j_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=featured&article=1543&Itemid=27

I wonder if it's true?

I hope so. That way the hideous piece of trash that I'm never going to see will have the voice of Frank Welker in it.

Hugo Weaving? No. No. NO! If he was to do the voice, I wont be able to keep myself from hearing "Mr. Anderson" at the end of each sentence. Welker all the way.

In other news, protoform toys at hasbro.com

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsID=022A4582-D56F-E112-44904AB6ED4C53B1

Bah. I think I'd really prefer that Welker wasn't attached to the project. His voice just doesn't seem (to me at least) to fit the character they're going to put on screen. It's like they're just grasping for anything that might bring in a few more ticket sales from fans of the cartoon, which is ultimately going to backfire by making the movie even worse.

Then again, it's not like bad movies can't do well at the box office. Night at the Museum seems to be doing okay. =/

Casting Welker wouldn't be a move to get more tickets sold, it'd actually probably mean a few less. The average movie audience will far outnumber the TF fanbase, and the majority will think "who the hell is Frank Welker, who the hell is Peter Cullen?" whereas big Hollywood stars in those roles would generate a little more interest, and potentially a little more assured ticket sales accordingly. I'd like them to give Welker the part just for the fact that he deserves it just as much as any big name movie star, and more so. I'm tired of Hollywood not giving voice actors the first shot in roles that require what they specialize in, instead opting for the big names just to get asses in seats.

Anyway, I got up early this morning to take care of some things but my car wouldn't start. To pass the time, I figured I'd get out my TF collection and photograph it for you guys. Upon doing so I realized I have too much fucking crap and I was kind of sickened with myself that I've spent so much money on this stuff when I could've really used it for much better things. I only got through the Armada collection and then just put everything up. I've decided I'm going to try to finish the few collections I've got going now and stop for a good while, until I can a)afford it much easier, and b)have enough space to display things properly. It's silly spending most of my funds on this stuff only to just package it up, stuck out of sight in boxes piled up in my room. After I get the rest of the Cybertron stuff I need and the coming Classics, I'm done for a good while.

Anyway, here's my Armada stuff. I have every figure released in the line.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armmini.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armmini2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armmini3.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armautobeasts.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armblurhs.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armscourhoi.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armoplaser.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armredalerts.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armoptimusugly.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armjetfires.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armuni.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armplop.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armdeceps4.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armdeceps2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armdeceps3.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armdeceps.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armdeceps5.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/armmegs.jpg

For you Roddy fans:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rodgroup2.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rodgroup.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rodoriginalclassic.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rodoriginalcyb.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rodclassrid.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rodchoro.jpg

The king of ugly:





These were all full of loose TFs, and that's not even all that I own. Just way too much for such limited funds and space, I'm a lunatic I tell you. When you're stuffing toys into your guitar case...something is amiss.

I've been wondering about this lately, so asking now!

How can you do the whole mint-in-package thing? I know you get really excited over Transformers stuff, and I know I couldn't stand not to take something that awesome out and play with it when I knew it was there. :)

You have a good point about the voice casting. My view on the matter has been reversed.

I've been wondering about this lately, so asking now!

How can you do the whole mint-in-package thing? I know you get really excited over Transformers stuff, and I know I couldn't stand not to take something that awesome out and play with it when I knew it was there. :)

Both my Armada Unicron and Powerlinx Optimus have been taken out but I store them in their boxes. The only things I've kept sealed are the Transformers Universe toys, which are all just repaints, and the chase figures in the Marvel Legends line. The Universe toys I kept in the package because, first of all most of them kind of sucked, and I thought it'd be cool to have at least one line of toys unopened, and what better one to choose since none of them were really new anyway? The ML chase figures are insanely hard to find usually, and are always just a variant of the regular figure, so I kept them packaged. I'll also keep things sealed if there's no point in removing them, such as PVCs that don't really move and such. For the most part though, I open everything. I prefer when I can restore them in their packages though, as it's sort of the best of both styles of collecting. Japanese toylines are almost always packaged where you can put the toys back in the box easily, but it's generally harder with American release stuff. Accordingly, all of my Japanese TFs are kept in their boxes after I open them. Blah blah.

Yeah, I've thought about trying to get some stuff that I don't really care about too much mint in package so I could have the neatness of displaying something still in the package.

I am no good at opening stuff neatly! I wreck boxes all the time. ; ;

I think there should be a law that all transformers, once purchased, should be opened, played with and transformed at least once.

On another note.

Optimus doesn't look that bad from this angle.

I wreck all my boxes as well. Especially with TF packaging, I just don't have the patience to do it neatly. Those little twisties... ugh. They make me want to get out a chainsaw.

That is a really kickass collection, Ktulu. I completely understand you wanting to hold off on increasing it, of course, but you probably will be able to look over it for many years to come and really enjoy it. And I think after Classics is a good time to take a break anyway, since ugly movie toys will probably be a huge portion of what gets released.

How many lines have you collected to completion?

That Optimus is totally going "How you doin?"

My RiD and Armada collections are complete, with Energon, Cybertron, Alternators, and Universe very near complete. I didn't start collecting Transformers actively until RiD came out. Otherwise I'd probably have a lot more Beast Wars toys than I do. All the same, I have at least a few from every line ever released, Japanese included. I figure I'm so behind on most of this anyway that I'm already going to be playing catch up at some point if I really do want to get all of it, so I'm just going to hold off till I can really afford hunting everything down and being able to properly display it. Keeping in mind that Transformers isn't the only toyline I collect, it's all really a little too much right now.

You're absolutely right about the movie stuff. Not only will most of it be rather asstastic, there's going to be way too much of it. If I try to keep the same pace throughout this year I'm going to drive myself crazy, and end up insanely broke over stuff I barely want. I have bought plenty of TFs I thought were ugly, many of which are photoed above. That's pretty silly and it should end. But, GOTTA CATCH EM ALL right? Oh, wait :o

I fixed the white balance on my camera just now, so if I take any more pictures as I clean my room they'll turn out a bit clearer and such.

damn it Ktulu, you suck for having that collection, especially the G1 hotrod... But damn it to I respect you. :-P

On another note, I have decided to hand paint my extra Classic Deluxe "Rodimus" to match the colors in the movie. Yes, that means hot pink. I'll post pics soon.

edit: He will fucking eat your soul!...

Ugly as fuck, that's what.

Since they are making 2 more movies and they are keeping Megatron on the "down-low", I predict he gains his earth form at the end of the movie. Kinda something to hint a sequel. Anybody want to put money on it?

I'm more confident with taking a bet such as "it's going to fucking suck lmao lmao"

http://starwarsattacktix.blogspot.com/2007/01/attacktixcom-reveals-transformers.html

GEEWUN gets some love in the coming Attactix sets. Huge ass guns, rofling. Despite that, they're not overly awful, and have better sculpts than the evil Titanium minis.

HAHA! () NSFW?

Gotta love it ^_____^

A few shots showing Ratchet's movie toy is fairly large:





He does have a crummy head but this is seriously the best looking one to me so far, BY far.

Also, that shot of Mirage sucks, they didn't bother removing the front of the vehicle so it looks bad :(

Ironhide, WTF

All I can do is laugh. That's too goofy to even be sad.

To be fair, in terms of toy quality, it's no worse than the original Ironhide toy. In terms of design though, what the fuck!!!?!!

Saw this on superhero hype today. Not sure if you guys had seen it yet or not.

Yeah but thanks for the heads up Ndi. What do you think? Optimus in robot mode is almost cool but he has bird feet :o Starscream looks silly, and both their "vehicle" modes, the flying trash heaps, look pretty crummy to me.

I actually kind of like Starscream. ; ; He reminds me a little of some SD Gundams I have.

I totally agree when it comes to Optimus's feet though.

Have you seen a clearer shot?



TK did you see these?





Hopefully the photographer was just crummy at posing because it looks a little brick like there. Still cool though, and I'm glad it's appropriately a bit bigger than regular Roddy, in robot mode at least.

Hello Kitty! :love:


(also his chest looks like an owl face close up)

NOT DIGGIN IT

He almost looks like a Gobot. I kinda liked the Gobots lol.
http://kofler.dot.at/c64/download/gobots.gif

Blasphemer

Yeah, I saw those Rodimus pics. I quite like them, and I was also glad to see he's bigger'n classics Hot Rod.

To be honest, I expect him to be rather brick-like. Soundwave is, and while he looks a little better in that department, it won't be by much I don't think. Titaniums just aren't designed to be really poseable the way the main lines are, I guess. =/

He just looks so damn cool, I don't care, though. I really just want him to stand on my shelf and look badass.

It doesn't really bug me either. I'll gladly buy one if I ever see it. I've seen Titaniums in stores here now, up to the Scourge/Optimal Optimus wave, so maybe Roddy will trickle in soon. Do you want me to pick up a Scourge for you TK? They're everywhere here.

If I do see one I'll probably grab it, but it's not worth mail and all that. Thanks for the offer though.

Any Cybertron Wing Sabers or Menasors where you live?

TFW has yet more movie toy images. Not sad I decided to quit for a while after Classics at all.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~wjtbeek/series/webworld.jpg















YEEEARGIN!!!!!!!!!!!

heh the titanium rodimus truck mode is so "compact!1" but the robot mode rocks though!! I've seen pics of Titanium Ultra Magnus floating around on the net. he looks pretty cool too!!

I haven't seen any Wing Sabers at all since that one that I saw one time and then was gone next time I was there. I think I have seen some Menasors. If I can spare the cash and I see one I will pick it up for you.

You'd be paid back of course :D

Thanks

Omegazarak...Tit Magnus is almost cool, but the damn arms...curse the arms.

yeah the arms could use some work. do you think his head is a bit too small too? i think so.

His head is fine to me. It's better than having one that's too big, and smaller heads for robots usually makes their bodies seem more imposing, which isn't a bad thing. Anyway, I hope he's as tall as Rodimus so that he might look cool standing next to him and Classics Optimus.

Movie toy prototypes for Megatron and two different Primes, these are obviously higher-end models given the detail.

I think I just figured out where Finster got a job after Lord Zed fired him

And thus we lol

I like the first model of prime the best he looks more like his original self.
Still can't get over how "unmegatron" the movie megatron looks. he looks like some super zoinod form the guyver cartoon. not to mention he doesn't even have the trade mark Fusion Cannon. he should've turned into a tank or a lazoer canon instead of a wuss alien plane.

The first Prime I posted looks ok above the waist to me, but below it's pretty crummy to me. The other two I've no interest in, but the Prime vehicle mode looks ok.

This is kind of cool:



These aren't just simple paint upgrades, they also altered Prime's head, flatted out the top of the face plate and made the visor above the eyes extend lower down. Even the crest was changed to have the horizontal paneling. The silver/purple Megatron repaint is a little dull to me but they did give him a right hand so that's cool. Anyway, I thought the little changes on Prime were neat so I wanted to share.



Grimlock with the screws in his shoulders painted over, looks much nicer to me, and it's easier than taking it apart to fix it.

is that an enerjon star on megatrons arm? (the -pic below the prime close up)

That's probably the line it came from but I think it's just meant to be a spark crystal. That's a custom addition as well.

Moving on:

One of the best customs/kitbashes I've seen, MP style Warpath:











Makes me want to scream onomatopoeias :D

That Warpath is awesome.

INDEED

TFW has new Blackout toy pics: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=120407

Above the shoulders has way too much kibble innit

man that warpath is KICK ASS!!!

How the hell did they make that warpath? Whoever it is should do a service to mankind and start selling them.

And whoever edited deluxe classics optimus like that is a hero as well. He actually looks not retarded. An impressive feat.

The arms/legs on Warpath are definitely from Gundam kits. The tank parts probably came from a random model, and the head was probably custom built. Combine that with excellent engineering of the transformation, and whooha, excellent results.

Optimash Prime ^____^

The Fallen Test Shot (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=120413)
New goofy movie toy, but kids will dig it (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=120556)
The new kings of ugly (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=120399)
don't click this, ever (nsfw) ()

i grew up woth the transformers and i still love them i am autistic and my favorite line is this is the end of the road galvetron

Cool stuff gokusgirl



Colored MP Megatron

Ramjet and Cliffjumper Classics have been spotted in stores in the US apparently. I'll definitely be looking for Ramjet.

Ok...

WTF time



Apparently this is a Soundwave that turns into a real, working MP3 Player. An Optimus one is planned as well, and it looks a lot like the G1 toy. I don't think their colors will be very detailed, apparently they come in blue or white choices. There is also going to be a set of Rumble/Frenzy headphones. What?

It gets crazier:



Optimus and Megatron NIKES

WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF

Even the robots are wearing sneakers

WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF

You know, I really don't dislike that Megatron so much now. Maybe it's just something about seeing it painted, but the legs look better to me now than they have before.

The shoes are pretty crazy. lolz

I think the MP Megs looks ok too. The legs are still painfully skinny but with the colors it looks a lot nicer. The head looks too big to me now, but eh, I wouldn't mind having it eventually really.

I think the head looks about perfect, actually. I figure it's actually disproportionately small to the shoulders, based on my own visions of how it should be. Of course, making the body slimmer isn't really an option, so I can't really complain.

Soundwave that turns into a real MP3 player is actually a pretty neat idea, I think.

The Nike ones... wow. Fuck that.

:O (http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=8614)

holy god....

I somehow doubt they're going to use it if he does submit a track. TK mentioned this during NEW YEARS SKYPE CHAT. It really is sad that his only career ops are Transformer related :(



Supposedly this is the "old" head. I certainly hope so. The big problem is the eye design, what the hell is with that?

Guys, I've about-faced on the new movie. I've only just realized that I've been prejudiced against it from day one. Now that I look at it more objectively though, I've become optimistic about it.

First of all, I've never actually gone out and dug up info on it. I've only read what's been dropped in front of me or what I stumbled across. Today, I actually made an effort to find out what's going on and came upon the interesting information that the pictures we've seen of Megatron are just his alien form, not the form he'll ultimately take on earth.

And that got me to thinking about the designs. Yeah, they look all complicated and alien, but now that I think about it, there really wasn't any other choice if they wanted to make a film that was anything more than fanservice.

Consider this. In the old cartoons, the characters were so blocky that a lot of their movements shouldn't have been possible. If you look at it, there are a lot of times where part of a robot's shoulder would just kinda phase into the torso so that it could move its arm, and other times the bodies would just be drawn different sizes to accomodate the odd movements. Obviously, that won't work for a big-budget Hollywood movie. That made it necessary to rework the designs.

They needed something flexible that could be put through its paces in action scenes without looking retarded to anyone with an eye for effects. They needed something that would look like it obeyed the laws of physics. And that's exactly what we have now. The spindly frames allow rotation and balance. The bird-looking feet look like they can settle down onto concrete without shattering it like a more blocky design would undoubtedly do, therefore making the practical effects work a bit easier.

And really, how many people who aren't old school TF fans are going to think the designs are bad? Probably none. When I look at them objectively, they actually look pretty clever. They've been well thought-out and will work effectively in a live-action film.

Of course, we all know that Bay is shit at directing actors, but who's going to see the actors anyway? Anyone going to that movie is paying to see giant robots break stuff, and it looks like it will definitely deliver on that front.

Basically, almost all of my reservations about it are gone. It may still be a pile of suck, but I can certainly live with all the changes they've made to the classic formula. If I think it stinks, it won't be due to Optimus having a thousand moving parts.

I don't mind that they aren't the same as the G1 designs, and I didn't expect that in the first place, but what they did come up with I simply find ugly. It honestly has nothing to do with how different they are. I know for some people it's sheer close mindedness but I know it's not just that for me. I completely understand the functionality as you described Prak, but I still feel they could've looked much cooler, a bit sleeker perhaps. The thousands of parts aren't necessarily a problem for me, just the way they've been arranged. Not agreeing with my taste in design is my only problem with it so far. I still intend to give the film a chance, as I know the way they look has nothing to do with how good the overall story will be. I don't have a lot of faith in Michael Bay, but I've got a neutral stance about the film. I intend to take it for what it is, find the positives, and enjoy it the best I can.

The Stan Bush thing is old news. :P

I find it hilarious that he is so desperate to resurrect his career. =( His songs are so cheesalicious, I doubt he has a real shot at it, but they are awfully fun to jokingly rock out to.


As for Prak's observations about the movie: It's fine for you if you happen to like the new designs, but in my opinion they are ugly as shit. All of the things you listed could easily have been taken care of by reworking the designs and not making them look like something that I would have nightmares about as a kid. As Ktulu said, reworking the G1 designs was inevitable and I've got no problem with that; what I have a problem with is them claiming they are making the movie with the legions of TF fans in mind and then completely throwing out the aesthetic that has essentially been the defining look of the series as long as it has existed (the only line that deviated substantially from this that I can think of was Beast Machines, which incidentally is one of the least popular.) Also, I know you probably don't collect them, but many modern TF figures have robot modes that are supurbly flexible and balanced and keep the traditional Japanese mecha aesthetic intact; the movie could have almost exactly copied the Binaltech/Alternators designs if it had chosen to, and none of those things you listed would have been a problem. I'm not saying it SHOULD have done this, but if Bay and friends couldn't figure it out for themselves, examples of supurb designs were right there for them to take.

Not only that, but there are various examples of the kind of thing that can be done with vehicles and machines transforming into cool-looking mecha robots throughout TV commercials; I can think of two separate ones I've seen people upload to the web that show a company just for a silly commercial using a "transformer" gimmick and having their car (or in the other one, a photocopier) turn into a robot in pretty much the exact aesthetic of the TF series, and it looked really badass. The car one has the robot dancing, and it looks great. There's absolutely no excuse for not using that kind of design.

The bottom line is that those designs exist because Michael Bay thinks they are cool, because that's the kind of guy Michael Bay is. He thought the old-school designs were "kiddy." (I'm not making this up, his own words are essentially to that effect.) I'm sure he thinks a robot with a humanoid face isn't badass enough for a <font color=red>MICHAEL BAY FILM.</font> If it doesn't look like it would break into your house at night and rape you, it isn't hip.

And furthermore, I care about the acting (which will be fucked for the robots, because they've been given bug features—good luck expressing their emotions with those) direction very much, and I care even more about the story, which I've every reason to believe will suck. The whole reason why Transformers is so great is because it presents opportunities to tell stories that are actually deep and powerful, as has been done in the comics, Beast Wars, and to a lesser extent in the original movie. Story is the whole point of TFs. Otherwise it would just be another "big robots shoot at each other" series.

TK I'm not quite as pessimistic about it all as you but your viewpoint is totally understandable, and I agree with a lot of it to an extent. The change in the aesthetic of the characters is fine to me in principle, but the extreme they took it too wasn't necessary. Prime aside, and he's just barely hanging on, none of them have much of a Transformers feel at all, the spirit isn't really there, they're just kind of generic, and the designs themselves seem a bit too random in their overzealous "hahaaaaaaaaaa detail!!" school of thought. A few changes here and there would probably provide a much sleeker look, which is all I'd hoped for, something stylish rather than walking scrap heaps. Despite my view of the designs though, I do not have any hatred towards the movie at all, and I'm just going to watch it and do my best to pull positives from it, as I said before. I'm definitely not a "this is going to suck because it's not G1" type, and I don't think TK is either. Some of the bitching is really silly on the TF site message boards. I feel my personal views, and TK's, are fairly justifiable and well thought out, not mere close mindedness, and I feel no shame in admitting that I'm not overly pleased with some things I know about it and the designs of the robots.

Anyway, I still hope when it's out we can all find SOME element to enjoy from it. I'm confident that in no way will it be the worst movie ever made, and while I won't get my hopes up, I'll do my best to keep the same open minded attitude towards it that I do with each movie I watch.

More Potatoey madness

Classics Devastator with Energon "Devastator"


All of the green limbs from both sets mixed together

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=121536

Some new Titanium images of stuff we've already seen, but listed are some upcoming releases: Prowl, Grimlock, Soundblaster (black Soundwave) with Ravage, Skywarp, and Primal Prime. I hope they don't ruin Prowl or Grimlock, those are two of my favorite characters.

Some new Titanium images of stuff we've already seen, but listed are some upcoming releases: Prowl, Grimlock, Soundblaster (black Soundwave) with Ravage, Skywarp, and Primal Prime. I hope they don't ruin Prowl or Grimlock, those are two of my favorite characters.

My Cheetor doesn't look like the one from that list there. Mine was much shinier.

Classics Devastator with Energon "Devastator"


All of the green limbs from both sets mixed together

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=121536



want.

rly? I think it's kinda hideous. =/

I saw the new 6" Titanium pictures and laughed because they very carefully posed Magnus so you can't tell how effed up his arms are. =/

Flying refuse!



Posing refuse!


Come on, vogue




I kind of like Jazz, blasphemy?




Kids are gonna love this


A Star Wars Transformer that actually has a decent robot mode design, hilarious

On TFW's board, re: people saying putting in the old transformation sound in the movie would be UNREALISTIC, amongst other things that would be too unrealistic:

"Not just in response to this particular discussion, but about a lot of things in general: I don't like the "it isn't realistic" argument, because with that logic you may as well not make the movie at all. What about giant sentient robots from another planet that can transform into replicas of objects they scan around them for disguise is realistic again? Fantasy/Science FICTION is a step away from the real world, so why should how far away it's elements go be hindered? Find a better excuse imo

People don't second guess everything. Were the sound to be used for transformations, or a variation/updated version of it, your typical movie goer would see the transformation, hear the sound, and simply accept that it's a result of the action happening on screen. I'm not sure why anyone would be thinking "what is that weird noise." If someone were to dismiss the movie as too unrealistic just based off of that, then why did they ever walk into a theater showing the giant talking robot movie to begin with?"

It says "automorph." MORPH.

I KNEW IT. FUCK THESE PEOPLE.

:o

By the way TK, for your comfort, Classics Grimlock has grown on me a lot, and isn't as big a let down to me anymore. Hooray.

An early Optimus design for the movie. Even though the body isn't that different, at least it makes the more current one look a lot better in comparison.

oh dear god.

that head makes me want to weep.

I think the head's design is fine in itself, but obviously, not for Optimus. The close minded fanboy in us all demands the face plate and blue helmet with antennae and a crest.

I like these ones even though i'm not really a fan of transformers.

I thought of posting the Megatron earlier but I didn't like the robot mode shot much. The gun mode looks cool.

Blackout isn't too bad, especially compared to some of the other movie stuff.





Why didn't you post these?

Anyway, what do you think Marvula?

I didn't post the rest because I was short on time. By the time I found those pictures, I only had a minute on my SLOW computer to get them posted before I had to get back to work.

Not only have the Transformers grown on me, I'm starting to love them. I want all those toys. NOW!

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opinionless

Read my edit. :p

Yeah, actually I can quite honestly say I think that the Blackout figure is pretty cool looking aside from the head. If they would just nix the bug features he'd be the first movie toy I could dig, like, at all.

It's weird, it's like for some reason they decided that even on one that looks COMPLETELY mechanical in its robot mode, they still have to give it bug features for the head. Why? That concept just makes no sense to me. I mean, some of the BW figures have buggish features, or facial features that generally match whatever their alt mode is, and that makes perfect sense. This is just absurd. Why would something that turns into a helicopter have a bug face. Come on. =(

And as for MP Megs, I'm just all-around disappointed. He'd be so badass if not for those awful legs.

Bugs are scary, eww gross, these things are alien monsters :o

Here is a Heathcliff out and about in the real world:


The silver on the car parts is really awkward looking, and I still hate that he's a Bumblebee clone. That just shouldn't be. They could've at least given him a new head if not an entire new mold. Their cartoon models may have been somewhat similar in G1, but they transformed into completely different vehicles and had different heads and limbs, etc, they just shared the same type of transformation and were the same size. I can understand reusing the mold from Bumblebee, but leaving the head as is is pretty crummy. Oh well, not like I have to buy it right?


Wondertwin Powers Activate!


Someone bought a Ramjet that ended up having no face :o Way to go Hasbro!

lol @ ramjet.

I haven't seen any Ramjets yet. =(

Same here.

By the way, there was news that the Botcon exclusives this year would be Classics related. There's speculation that Thundercracker, Thrust, and Dirge may end up being released that way - meaning horrific prices. I really hope it's just goofy obscure shit rather than that. I really want those characters, but can not afford, and do not feel they'd be worth, $100 or more.

Boy TK, I bet this makes you feel really awesome about a certain purchase :(

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=121793

At TFW one of the regulars figured out you can remove the evil trapezoid part under Tit Soundwave's crotch and maintain the same transformation functionality. It leaves two blue tabs under there, but it still looks much better than having the big bulging grey part there.

Have we seen this guy before? I can't really remember.

Have we seen this guy before? I can't really remember.

We have but only in alt mode. Mostly early pictures. We all kinda forgot about him.

By the way, since you have a cool Optimus avatar, I'm putting you in my top 12 friends on myspace. One of the others deleted there account and since you and your page are hella cool I need to bump someone up. Yours would make a great mouse-over on my page. :p

Toys.
Toys.
And more TOYS!