I'm going to have to say that 08 Bumblebee is worth ever inch of the hype. It's not worth every cent that has been overcharged on eBay, of course, but I think it certainly lives up to the acclaim.

It is now my favorite figure from the movie line, even though it has some very nice competition from Prime. However, I think it manages to pack all the things I love about Prime into a more polished and (amazingly) smaller package. The automorph is the most intricate of all the figures I have, and the best at actually cutting down transformation time. Sure, that gimmick overall isn't fantastic on any of them, but here it works the best and does the most--even if that doesn't take much.

The tranformation is intricate without being overly fiddly. I can actually transform him in a reasonable amount of time, while still feeling like I have accomplished something. The alt mode is solid, and that (for some reason) has always been really important to me, and is probably why I have avoided classic movie Bumblebee. However, once 'released' from the tight shell of his alt mode, he is very 'fluid.' as compared to his movie bretheren and to most of the transformers I have ever owned. That isn't to say that he is 'loose.' Posing requires some balancing, but not an excessive amount.

Add to this a transforming weapon that seamlessly becomes part of his alt-mode, and the fact that he looks great in both modes, and you've got a winner.

As I said, he has everything that makes me love Prime in spades. I doubt he'll sell you on the movie toys if you don't already like them, but if you do, or just want to pick up one (and feel okay not owning a Prime ;)), I have to cast my vote for this being it.

I think Ktulu said that the $10 figure (this one) looked better than the $90 figure (Ultimate Bumblebee (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3ijj-dfLE)). Even though Crazy seems amused by him, he doesn't seem like anything I'm interested in purchasing, either :p

I think Ktulu said that the $10 figure (this one) looked better than the $90 figure

Yeah, I pretty much luled out of my chair when I read that a few pages back because its so true. But Bumblebee is tied with Arcee (Deluxe, not Scout figure) as my favorite movie figures. And my custom painted one is just to purrdee to not keep displayed. You're so very right in that its worth the hype, but not the overprice on ebay.

If any of you get MP Screamer and decide to remove the dark wash on the back of his jet mode, be careful. I wouldn't use alcohol or paint remover. The best way might be to just dry-brush over it if you really hate it. A lot of people that have taken alcohol to rub it off have ended up with trashed plastic back there, it doesn't really react well at all and the toy ends up getting ruined.

I've found that it doesn't even look bad in person so I'm just keeping it the way it is.

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to mess with it. I wish it wasn't there, but I'd rather put up with it than risk messing it up worse.

What do you mean "dry brush" over it though? Just go over it with a brush and not add anything? Would that actually do anything?

Dry brushing is a paint technique where you pretty much have as minimal amount of paint on your brush as possible, just to where some will go on and it's almost dry already, rather than putting on a big wet coat.

http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotome/JinsDangerousToys/GalvatronG1.html

The light "weathering" you can see on the legs was dry brushed

Cool. And that is one kickass customization.

He posts at TFW2005 and is kind of a prick though. I guess the high prices his auctions go for have given him a big head. If anyone says they don't like anything or gives him ideas/suggestions he tends to get really passive aggressive or just outright snippy. He's great at what he does but it's pretty funny that he seems to have a superiority complex over how well he can screw around with kid's toys.

That on in particular is a good one though.

BTW guys - TFW is starting a whole exclusive interview series with various people related in the Transformers franchise. "Supporters" and long term members were able to sign up for the chance to give the interviews, and I've been assigned Don Figueroa as he was the first to agree to the idea. I'm gathering questions from people there as well as my own to be reviewed by TFW staff before it's sent out, and I'll certainly consider adding in any questions you guys might have. Let me know!

holy fuck! you get to interview Don Figueroa? That rules.

I'll try to think of a question that wouldn't be completely stupid! I never seem to know what the hell to ask people.

ugh (http://www.pingmag.jp/2006/04/07/scott-campbell-misforming-transformers/)

Bwaha. absolutely anything can be art, it's all how you sell it.

Wow.

My destroyed toys from when I was little were art, and I didn't even know it!

Bwaha. absolutely anything can be art, it's all how you sell it.

I know but

ALL THOSE TOY CAN NO LONGER BE PLAYED WITH

The only thing that bothered me was it's just another pretentious art thing. Being a student at an art college, I've grown an even larger distaste for people that just slap something together haphazardly and justify it with some bullshit deeper meaning or creative pursuit or whatever. What's wrong with just....making drawings, or taking photographs, or sculpting something? Why does there have to be some ridiculous justification?

Not something I really wanna get into though :o

MY ART ALL HAS DEEP MEANING!

DEEPER THAN DEEP CAN POSSIBLE DEEP!

BIGGER THAN BIG CAN POSSIBLE BIG!

SMALLER THAN NOTHING, DANCING WITH THE MOON!

I love you planet Moon V12!

This was on the 4th page, awesome!

So, tell me if this makes sense:

TF Animated cartoon movie premiere is the day after Christmas. The series itself starts the week or so after. The toys however, are not set for release until July or August next year, so as to make room for their milking of the movie toys with repaints and shit. They're gonna have a big original Cartoon Network production show with a proper time slot for once, and the toys aren't even gonna be on the shelves? AWESOME DECISION

This thread should have been stickied long ago, imho.

Oh, and, yes, that decision is mighty stupid.

I just can't care about anything Transformers related these days except the comics.

When we find out more about new Classics or LoC figures...

Botcon is in April, so I guess then

Go to botcon's website btw - looks like the exclusive toys next year will be a reverse universe theme or something. On the video you can see the faction symbols change colors, you hear some G1 music backwards at the end, and then there's a couple of Autobot toys all spooked up with Photoshop in the background

That's the general assumption, anyway

I'm going to try to go to this one

Nice, good luck pulling that off. I'd love to go to botcon but I monetarily I don't think that's gonna be at all viable for me. By that point I'm gonna be saving all my cash for INSUB FEST 2008

I'm thinking of using a credit card and it paying it off in smaller chunks



You can barely see it, but Kaiyodo is releasing Revoltech Hot Rod and Starscream toys. For you Roddy lovers, hlj.com sells Revoltechs for about 15 bucks plus shipping. I'll let you know when they're up for order finally.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071129/habsro_ad.html?.v=1

Man Hasbro is getting competitive

And check this Cliffjumper upgrade:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=158470

Love it except for the fat ass nose

You guys are not posting fast enough :(

Tighter shot of those Revoltechs

Not sure about em yet, need to see more pictures

Check this out - http://www.l-workshop.com/gallery/Blades/blades.htm

Looks pretty good from there, but yeah, I'd need to see them in better detail. Starscream's shoulder spike thingies look a bit too long and his head looks a bit too wide but other than that, looking pretty nifty. I can't see much reason to get the Starscream what with the US version of MP screamer anyway though.

"Premium" movie line pics -



These are basically meant to be shinier, more accurate paint jobs.

Megs and Prime though seem to have new heads. Prime also has the sword thingy rather than the blaster. Megatron's spikes are gone too. These paint apps are really a lot better than the regular ones, especially on Megatron. The appropriate silver deco really makes what was a shit looking toy a lot better.

I don't really get why Barricade and Ironhide were necessary, they don't seem to look a whole lot different than the regular ones. Jazz too, but I guess the paint is just more detailed.

Doubt I'll get em, but it's interesting.

If it means I'll actually see an Ironhide in store again to complete my collection, it's OKAY.

WHAT IS A HOSHITORODIMASU?

I KNOW WHAT A SUTAASUKIRIIMU IS

Transformers rocked

I was just thinking recently, it's really interesting how many Hot Rod/Rodimus figures get made lately. We had one for classics, one for Titaniums, one for LoC, one for Binaltech, and now a Revoltech as well. He went from not really having any good figures at all to having several in a very short time period. I'm really glad he is remaining an enduring character despite what some detractors say about him.

Yeah, and there's also the homages with the RiD Sideburn repaint, and the Hot Shot repaints in Armada and Cybertron. With those and all the recent stuff, along with the Japanese stuff like the 80s non-transforming model, the micromaster Hot Rodimus that came with Star Convoy, the Choro-Q rodimus, and the reissues, PVCs, and Mega SCF non-transforming figures in the 90s....he's really ended up well represented despite not having a true update until recently.

I liked the character a lot when I was a kid and I have no problems with him even now. The only thing I think people bitch about generally is Rodimus not being a great leader in the original cartoon. I think Rodimus being an immature leader was a nice story though, and it really made sense. It meant that the matrix doesn't automatically make you completely great, and that you still need to gain your own experience to really be a great leader. I kind of hate the idea that whoever has the matrix only has their knowledge and strength because of some power up rather than it being on their own accord, which is how it's been handled in some other cases. Optimus had years of being the leader under his belt, and thus was wiser and better capable of handling things. It would've been lame if Rodimus had just been an Optimus clone in personality, and it would have made Optimus seem a lot less special.

People also lamely accuse him of being a "whiner" a lot. I, of course, totally agree with you though.

!

If I were awesome and rich like I wanna be, I'd buy you a crystal Hot Rodimus reissue for Christmas TK, the pretty pretty clear G1 version.

But alas, I am broked

Haha, same. The thought that counts though. <3

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I would buy you a G1 Minibots reissue set with the resculpted Bumblebee :D

It comes in a nice collector box and everything

Im ashamed to say that I still have not yet seen the movie
I'LL BUY THE FREAKN DVD ALRIGHT PEOPLE

No reason to be ashamed, most of us are much more fans of the other parts of the franchise than the current movie

Even if you're not a fan of the movie incarnation version, I still recommend it. It's one of the best underrated movies of all time.

Chaka Luther: Good insight about Rodimus and the Matrix. Even Optimus Prime was just a lowly 'dock worker' before all hell broke lose on Cybertron.

It also shows something about Rodimus, Optimus, and Ultra Magnus.
Rodimus - Reluctant leader
Ultra Magnus - Wannabe leader
Optimus - True leader

I would buy you a G1 Minibots reissue set with the resculpted Bumblebee :D

It comes in a nice collector box and everything

<3

i scream you scream we all scream for starscream

Even if you're not a fan of the movie incarnation version, I still recommend it. It's one of the best underrated movies of all time.

The 80's movie or the Michael Bay one?

Because I mean...making hundreds of millions of dollars definitely wouldn't qualify as underrated.

I am with you if you mean the 80's one, though!

Ndi watches our every movie in Transformers discussion

MarvinStraight -

There's a cool art contest going on with IDW. You email your name to them, then they send you an assigned character in January, and you then submit line-art to them by February 1st. You get voted on, then the top 3 get another chance to do more work, and they'll select a final piece from those and publish it as a cover to one of the TF comics.

I don't know if you're into drawing Transformers or not, but this is a cool opportunity. I'm entering even though I haven't drawn a Transformer in ages. Better get to practicing I guess!

Email is:

[email protected]

if you're interested!

Looks like The Master is playing TF fan :(

I think Soundwave is a total badass and Iron Hide too.... Does anyone love Armada as much as I did * I have Optimus Prime Deluxe btw*

I think Armada is a really so-so part of Transformers. The toyline had a few gems but lots of figures were released with lackluster paint, sculpt, and articulation. The cartoon was riddled with horrible dubbing errors, and inconsistent animation due to multiple studios working on it at the same time. Some episodes were great, others were hard to sit through. I didn't read all of the comic so I don't have a complete opinion on it.

The toys got better after that, but the shows got worse.

I loved it when Optimus and Gravatron teamed up to deafeat Unicron and up beating the shit outta each other they thought they won

Chaka Luther King please give me your money!

Oh please!

The 80's movie or the Michael Bay one?

Because I mean...making hundreds of millions of dollars definitely wouldn't qualify as underrated.

I am with you if you mean the 80's one, though!

80's movie, kind of. The Bay one, while it was popular with the general public, the critics were kind of iffy on the whole thing.

The animated movie had a lot against it. Limited release, PG rating that parents didn't like, bad reviews, and it was released in a time when even Disney couldn't put out a hit animated film. It's most definitely a cult classic by now though, and has gained more respect over the years. There's plenty of things I don't like about it, same as the new movie, but I can still get into it. It's fucking Transformers, with the best directed action any Transformers animation has ever had, I really love the Vince DiCola score, and I grew up watching it over and over. I hate that some of my favorite characters either die or aren't even featured, I hate that it downgraded the Dinobots to pure comedy relief, I hate that it's inspired so many Megatron to Galvatron conversions later on and an overuse of the Unicron character later, blah blah you know, but I still love it regardless.

Concept Bumblebee gets another repaint:



The yellow in robot mode is atrocious imo. That and the Jungle Bonecrusher are two of the worst robot paint masks I've seen since Armada :(



On him, the green/tan separation is just goofy. Makes him look like he's wearing a sweater and khaki pants.

for some reason i don't like it when they put little kids or teenagers in the shows or movies

There's always going to be a human element in the cartoons, and obviously the live action films, with the mindset that it gives kids characters to relate to better.

If you want more robot driven stories, you might want to check out some of the comics.

hm hm, thats true, and yet suprisingly i actually liked transformers cybertron.
i like the voice actor for megatron

If you want more robot driven stories, you might want to check out some of the comics.

Key word being some of. The IDW ones actually feature human characters very prominently in most of the stories. The spotlights usually are totally lacking in humans though, and the Stormbringer storyline was also totally focused just on Cybertronians.

Yeah I know there's some people - I was definitely thinking of stuff like War Within from DW and Stormbringer though.

I think the tone of the humans is pretty different in the comics though, especially compared to stuff like the Armada cartoon, which is what I think he meant in terms of what bothers him.

Looks like Animated has a tiny little girl following them around :o I bet she still won't be as annoying as Carlos, Rad, and Alexa though.

Ndi watches our every movie in Transformers discussion

MarvinStraight -

There's a cool art contest going on with IDW. You email your name to them, then they send you an assigned character in January, and you then submit line-art to them by February 1st. You get voted on, then the top 3 get another chance to do more work, and they'll select a final piece from those and publish it as a cover to one of the TF comics.

I don't know if you're into drawing Transformers or not, but this is a cool opportunity. I'm entering even though I haven't drawn a Transformer in ages. Better get to practicing I guess!

Email is:

[email protected]

if you're interested!

Thanks dude. I need to think about this one or get my practice on. I can honestly say I have not drawn a Transformer in 20 years.

I got discouraged from drawing them about 3-4 years ago. I was entering a lot of contests but I'd never even make it to the honorable mentions, and I got nothing but negative feedback usually. I always took it as being because my style was different than everyone else's and I only posted black and white stuff. Everyone else was doing Pat Lee marshmallow bots at the time in way overblown color, which was the only way to draw TFs then, and so my shit was ignored or hated on. Bleh.



There's one of the ones NO ONE LIKED. I certainly realize it's not anywhere near a masterpiece but I did try really hard on it :( Oh well though.

So yeah, I'm going to need to practice for this new contest.

i once drew a PS2 controller as a minicon but it sucked lol

Fuck it if no one likes it. That drawing is fucking awesome. I've never been able to do something on a scale like that off the top of my head. Very awesome.

it has soundwave so it automaticlly awsome!

Well thanks. I was mostly upset that it didn't place in the contest it was for at all, especially with there being 10 placings and 5 honorable mention. Mine was one of few that didn't make it :o Even though I'm very modest as it is, it just made me feel crappy.

Then later on when multiple TFW members were collaborating on some comic, some of the people running it were actually making shitty remarks to me about how I'll never make it comics and they don't want me working on the project anymore because my art was so terrible :o Luckily, the staff on the site bitch slapped them for being such dicks about was a totally volunteer-based project that we were all putting effort into. It eventually fell apart since the two in charge were such douches.

After that incident and other contests where absolutely no one liked what I was doing, I just decided I shouldn't bother. I can't really get a good feel for the robots that people like, at least then I couldn't. I'm not sure what they'd think of my style today. I guess we'll find out!

dude i would pay for a custum drawling from ya and dont give up

Fuck it if no one likes it. That drawing is fucking awesome.

It looks pretty good to me. I think everybody here who's seen your art is quite convinced of your talent, Ktulu. I remember some time ago I was discussing something you'd drawn with rezo and we agreed you were too hard on yourself and are quite a good artist. I'd trust his opinion if anybody's!

If you don't get any helpful comments in one community I'd just try another. Maybe you'd get better reactions there now, also, since the style used in the comics has obviously shifted away from the puffybot look (although the issues drawn by Nick Roche are sort of annoyingly cartooney sometimes). Personally I like the slightly gritty feel the black and white lends to your image up there.



I think the tone of the humans is pretty different in the comics though, especially compared to stuff like the Armada cartoon, which is what I think he meant in terms of what bothers him.

It definitely is. Some people really hate Verity in particular though, and I can see why. She's a bit too typical of a "smart teenage hacker whiz rebel loner girl who pretends to be tough/independent but is actually scared all the time" cliche.

There's always going to be a human element in the cartoons, and obviously the live action films, with the mindset that it gives kids characters to relate to better.

If you want more robot driven stories, you might want to check out some of the comics.

That's true. One of the things the biggest complaints I've heard about the old Transformer Movie AND the GI Joe Movie,(The one that revealed Cobra Commander's origins and that creepy race) was that a lot of it felt like a giant advertisement for the toys.

Well, to be fair, any comic, cartoon, or movie pretty much IS an ad for the toys with this stuff

Thanks about the art TK

Trying to get better shots with my damn camera:











I think I may just need a new one :(

ktulu you draw those camera pictures yourself?

No

But I did do this very quick sketch of Santa Prime on a Christmas card:

my name is ash ketchum

Found a cool custom Classics Magnus:



One of the cleaner attempts at something like that I've seen

And someone digibashed Animated Deluxe Prime into Optimus Primal colors:

Nice sculpt on the magnus head.

Do you know what its from?

The existing Prime head with the face scooped out, replaced with Jetfire's face, and what I'm guessing are super-sculpy antennae. The crest was slightly altered at the bottom too.

Its a nice smooth paint job too.

Red is a little too gloss though imo

If I could afford extras I'd do custom paintjobs of my own. I altered the hell out of my Armada figures but I regret it now since I ruined them from being "mint" and as intended. They were so damn ugly out of the package though :( If I'd had more money, I could've bought two of each or something, one to keep as is, one to screw with.

I imagine kitbashing is a really expensive hobby :o

Id love to see some of your alterations dood

It's all just paint, nothing fancy really

Plus I'd have to drag em back out again and I'm not doing that shit for a while!

It's all just paint, nothing fancy really

Plus I'd have to drag em back out again and I'm not doing that shit for a while!

Perhaps later then. ^_^

I can give you vague examples from the old blue ass pictures I posted

Check out the Powerlinx Jetfire at TFU compared to mine:





Powerlinx Hotshot:





Megatron:





If it isn't obvious, I added silver for definition around the symbols and changed the horrible neon pink to red. I added red and silver elsewhere on him too but the picture doesn't really show it.

Laserbeak:







So yeah, vague examples

I filled in the faction symbols on all of them, which were unpainted by Hasbro until the last few in the line for some damn reason, and added a lot of other colors wherever I saw fit on basically every figure

EDITEDITEDITEDIT

Hey it si lotsa Lockdown photos -

http://www.toyskingdom.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=10092&extra=page%3D1

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/

You can see a good quality Animated preview there

Only thing I saw that immediately bothered me is how crazy Prime's face looks

And

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/member.php?u=39642

Yay, I'm an official content contributor there now

Better pictures of the second batch of G1 Robot Heroes, and the Beast Wars ones (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=159732)

and new Animated promo images

man i ain't going to be watching that straight up trippin' dawg

man i ain't going to be watching that straight up trippin' dawg

In my opinion, da movie was visually immense, though the plot could have been written by a 6 yr old


Megatron is a prick
Go autobots


DUDE!!!!!

Better pictures of the second batch of G1 Robot Heroes, and the Beast Wars ones (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=159732)

Hurrah! Those look swell. I really love the Rattrap one.

Animated Ultra Magnus, as portrayed by Jay Leno

Slight news on Classics 2/Titaniums in Toyfare:

"The article states that Classics 2.0 Waves will consist of five Transformers and that we will be getting a triple-changer, and a tank, as part of the first few assortments. The article continues with a statement from one of the Transformers designers (in reference to future recolors) ''Where possible, I'll try and throw a new head sculpt in or change up the way the vehicle transforms in order to give it a different look."

Also concerning 6" Titaniums, particularly War Within Prowl and Grimlock Hasbro says "we are not planning to release these versions."

The article states that Classics 2.0 Waves will consist of five Transformers and that we will be getting a triple-changer, and a tank, as part of the first few assortments.

Springer? :) *crosses fingers*

I watched that 3 minute preview of TFA. I kinda enjoyed it. Bumblebee even made me laugh.


Springer? :) *crosses fingers*

ditto.

I'd vastly prefer Blitzwing over Springer and I think he's a more important character to give a good toy to, but either would be awesome.

I am super excited for the next wave of classics at any rate.

How about both Springer and Blitzwing?

Well that would certainly be terrific, I'd say. The news seems to imply only one triple-changer, though.

Wait a minute. Wasn't there concept art of Octane in those pics from that convention Ktulu posted about a while back?

Octane getting a classic before Springer and Blitzwing is :sad:

I'd want Springer, but I'm expecting Blitzwing. I just hope there's a spectacular enough Autobot to make up for the Decepticons having a triple changer.

It'd be cool if they went way beyond the obvious and put out a new Apeface or something, but that's me! I like the 1987 toys, and new versions would be awesome.

Snapdragon, ftw ;)

Chances are the don't even have those names trademarked anymore though :o

Prowl officially confirmed for Classics/Universe:

"In 2008, Hasbro's going to recreate more original Transformers for its Classics Line, and two characters Hasbro has confirmed for us are yellow Lamborghini Sunstreaker and black-and-white cop car Prowl"

Stoked about that, I really love that character. I hope we get a really good Bluestreak repaint! I guess it'll go either way though, him or Smokescreen. Probably won't get all three :(

Better Animated Megatron (Cybertron version) pictures:

I don't buy toys anymore because I eat so much and the toys get scared and run away

Awesome, Sunstreaker and Prowl are great choices.

They could reference the IDW comics in a really neat way with the Sunstreaker toy but I don't want to give anything away. :P

That bot mode animated Megatron looks pretty fucking bad ass. Alt mod sucks, but the bot ftw!

I just wish they weren't so interested in stretching the movie line with shitty repaints so we could get the Classics faster. At this point it's going to be late next year before they're out :(

Oh well though, it'll give me time to save up some extra cash for em

TK are you actually going out to buy the comics or are you downloading scans? I would like to read more of them than I have

I must admit, Megatron looks pretty cool!
I'd buy it if they hadn't brought out G.I Joes.
Although I like both, I'm much more of a G.I Joe fan than Transformers. Aside from the Mini-Tranformers figurines, G.I Joes are much more affordable.

Well it won't be out for a good while

You're right about affordability. The higher price of Transformers is due to the amount of parts - there's way more parts on Transformers than Joes

Yeah, I guess that's why I'm much more nostalgic for Joes than I was with Transformers.
Back in the day, It was hard to convince my mom to buy me a Transformer - which is why I had the Japanese versions, which were cheaper at that time - but a whole lot easier to get a Joe.

When I was a kid I had a lot more Joes than I did Transformers for the very reason of cost, but I liked the Transformer cartoon and comics better. (Now that I look back on the Marvel stuff I think the Joe comic was a bit better though)

I've always liked them both a lot really but I guess I became much more interested in Transformers overall. I keep up with em both though, always have

Now that I look back on the Marvel stuff I think the Joe comic was a bit better thoughI always wished they would've made a Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos crossover, or even one with the Weapon X team.

Show Bible stuff for Animated, with bios and hi-res scans of animation models and and and

http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1139/

http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1138/

http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1140/

http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1141/

TK are you actually going out to buy the comics or are you downloading scans? I would like to read more of them than I have

Yeah, I buy them. It really reignited my interest in comics in general, actually.

Ktulu, I tried that idea you posted on myspace, these were the smallest "jewels" I could find.

Nice, really makes the eyes stand out

Have you seen how the Robot Heroes movie Bee simplified the mouth? It looks a lot nicer imo, kind of a blend between traditional and movie styling

From an on-line card game we get new character shots:



from top to bottom, left to right:

Prometheus Black, Headmaster, Nanosec

Soundwave, Scrapper

Ultra Magnus, Sentinel Prime, Ironhide

heh, "headmaster." Too bad it looks like ass.

What is this online card game?

The 'Headmaster' design really reminds me of something Jack Kirby would of done, kind of Galactus-ish

The most bizarre thing to me about the designs is how every single of them has a giant chin, it's pretty weird

The game is one of those millions of Cartoon Network things:

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/games/transformers/actionpacks/index.html

Ultra Magnus still looks like a dick.

I'd say they pretty much all look like dicks.

Scrapper looks depressed, he's like "Why do I look so horrible? :("

Soundwaves head is uhh not actually a head?

Scrapper looks depressed, he's like "Why do I look so horrible? :("

Soundwaves head is uhh not actually a head?

Scrapper reminds me of John Kerry

Quite an apt description!

Jazz (http://pics.livejournal.com/raptorscribe/pic/00077k2h)

Swoop (http://pics.livejournal.com/raptorscribe/pic/00078a63)

Sentiel Prime vehicle (http://pics.livejournal.com/raptorscribe/pic/00079r76)

Ultra Magnus (http://pics.livejournal.com/raptorscribe/pic/0007bzy9)

Ultra Magnus vehicle (http://pics.livejournal.com/raptorscribe/pic/0007atte)

Slag (http://pics.livejournal.com/raptorscribe/pic/0007d0rx)

http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tfeg01%20

That would be awesome to have

QUADRUPLE POST

ALSO THIS - http://jalopnik.com/335737/100+car-transformers-logo-collage

Optimus looks cool and all but does he have a gaping hole in his back?

If a Jazz toy materializes, I will buy. PROMISE.

If I live another day, perhaps I too would search. But for the dancing star, just above the heavens. Such a star, no doubt, I would buy.

YES. FINALLY, A NEW BIG DADDY

Granted, it's a repaint, but still, the name!!!



Ebenezer Scourge...luls

I saw that pic posted in a thread at TFW2005 last night, Ktulu.

It was a thread with a tribute to XE's Advent Calender. You hadn't posted in that thread :(

I think your name is the same over there, iirc. Otherwise, I've made an ass of myself, again. Nothing new :o

I didn't see that thread, I got it from KA's thread about the drawing itself

Welp, today's the big day Animated premieres on Cartoon Network, at 8 if any of you wanna check it out. I'll give it a fair chance, of course.

And, finally there are pictures of Takara's Classic Megatron:





Obviously much different, unlike the other ones. I might actually get it if I ever see a good price. I still like the Hasbro one just fine though. (Though honestly I think this color scheme could have been released in the US without any chance of being confused as a "real" gun....but oh well)

Yeah, I really wish we'd gotten him looking like that. Much better in my eyes.

I think some of the red highlights could go. The placement of some seem weird to me, especially the feet. It's still cool overall though.

Did any of you bastids watch the show?



Classics/Universe Onslaught

Nope. How was it?

No :(

I am a shame to this thread :o

Pff, I bet most people posting in this thread didn't watch it.

Personally I think this is because it looks like poop.

When the hell did they show it?

What the hell!!!
I've been waiting to find out when it would premiere.
What the hell happened to the advertising for it!

I hate when this happens! :mad:
I see a commercial for a show I'm interested in once, and never see it again.
All of a sudden I end up seeing the last minutes of it the day it shown!

I liked it TK :p

Top notch voice acting and G1 spirit out the wazoo. I liked the characters a lot too, especially the Decepticons (Starscream in particular). That said, it looks like Bulkhead and Bumblebee are a little too in the "teehee this is funny for kids" realm, but they were still entertaining. The action was well directed with lots of energy and still easy to follow, unlike a certain movie that came out earlier this year.There was one little plot device they used too much already but maybe it won't always keep popping up. It's nice to see some 2d Transformers animation again too, even if it is super stylized. I think I'll enjoy watching it, and it'll probably be a success.

And btw, ultra super chins didn't look so bad in motion.

wot, you mean the new show has aired?

when the fuck did this happen -_-

Man you guys have not been paying enough attention to this thread I am thinking

I knew it was happening and I don't even want to watch the stupid thing!

Man you guys have not been paying enough attention to this thread I am thinking

correct.

i didnt think it was airing til 2008 though.

I even posted saying "hey it si coming on plz to watch"

It's found via torrent very easily atm

I wish you'd at least try to watch it TK :o

I will try and find it on torrent!

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1069368

You need to register at the tracker's site for it to work, but it's really quick to do it

Hey shut up guys

Look how awesome animation errors in G1 are:



Mini-con Blaster



HotSpot stands beside Defensor



Kup with Springer's head and Ultra Magnus has an all blue face (and why is Kup in the middle anyway)



Brawn after he's dead, Huffer after he's confirmed dead, and Bonecrusher fighting alongside them



Bumblebee and Goldbug co-exist. Also, they, along with everyone, appear to be about the same height as Ultra Magnus



Cliffjumper, midget car



Soundwave switches sides



Gigantic Ironhide



Air Raid switches sides, and Rumble is as big as everyone else

Got the caps from the TF wiki, and shit like this is all over the cartoons sadly. I guess it's pretty hilarious though

This one has me lollin

haha, nice. I knew there were a lot of errors but never really bothered to look at them specifically.

even though jazz is an old school transformer, he has one of the coolest original names. I'm going to wikipedia for the full list of mysterious transformers!

The worst mistakes are almost all season 3, where the AKOM studio took over most episodes from Toei. Cos cheaper. Not only are there more mistakes in AKOM episodes, they just look like shit overall. For those of you that can, compare the first 3 episodes to "City of Steel" - Toei vs. AKOM, and then "The Return of Optimus Prime" vs "Five Faces of Darkness", Toei vs AKOM again.

AKOM sucks.

http://www.tfsource.com/Reissues/Nightbird/nightbird.html

ROBUTTS

I've just finished watching it and I'm completely stunned to be saying this, but I liked it a lot, and I think there's a good chance that I may absolutely love the series once it really gets going, assuming they start leaning more in the G1 direction. Too much of it is mirroring Bay's movie for my taste, but there's only so much to be drawn out of a single movie's scenario, and once that well runs dry, I have high hopes for it reaching excellence.

optimus, megatron, and unicron rock. It just does not seem like their personalities have changed though, and that can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at though. the toonami announcer (no not tom, who seems retrograded from a scrapheap) sounds like the original optimus.

I've just finished watching it and I'm completely stunned to be saying this, but I liked it a lot, and I think there's a good chance that I may absolutely love the series once it really gets going, assuming they start leaning more in the G1 direction. Too much of it is mirroring Bay's movie for my taste, but there's only so much to be drawn out of a single movie's scenario, and once that well runs dry, I have high hopes for it reaching excellence.

It's really crazy G1 inspired already as far as I can see. You notice even the Autobot ship is similar to the ones they used in the G1 series? The Bay stuff is gonna be somewhat common though all the same, as connection points for kids who don't know anything else you know? I don't think we have to worry about it overpowering the series though, it's definitely going in it's own direction.

Starscream alone is a great G1 homage - great version of the old voice instead of the typical "American dub Vegeta" thing they had going on in the last few series, colors and design are close, and the whole "fuck you I'm taking over the Decepticons" attitude he has is in full force, and to make it better, this time he's actually a bad ass rather than a second rate incompetent moron. I was very impressed with how they've handled him so far.


the toonami announcer (no not tom, who seems retrograded from a scrapheap) sounds like the original optimus.

It is, the narrator for most Toonami commercials is Peter Cullen and always has been

Starscream being a badass is ok, just so long as he's not more badass than Megatron. I might watch the show if it has something like the scene from the comics where Megatron blows a hole through his chest.

Megatron is depicted so far as pretty much the ultimate badass. The five autobots together could barely fight him and that was even after Starscream had fucked him up with some sort of bomb that he snuck onto his back

Apparently, the "human villains" that are to be included in this series are so they won't be fighting and winning against Decepticons every episode so as to make the Decepticons seem more threatening. We all know how the old cartoon often paints the Decepticons as totally incompetent and cowardly until the movie when they finally kill everybody deaded

Ok, thoughts:

I can't get around the art style, it's too ugly. Optimus should have just hit Megatron with his chin. Megatron was actually the only character who looked ok.

I do appreciate that they tried to make it so referential and stuff—keeping the transforming sound, and having that little G1 sequence in the beginning as a "history video," and stuff like that. Starscream's voice acting is pretty great. Optimus's pisses me off though, he sounds stupid. Prowl is one of the most obnoxious characters ever and I'd have prefered he just died.

I don't know, I think I'd like this if the animation were better. At least it's more watchable than the past few, but I doubt I'm going to bother. It's no Beast Wars either way—thing that made that show so great was the legitimate sci fi feel and how serious/humorous it managed to be at the same time. This is still just a CN show about badly drawn robots. Obviously the story can get better, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did. I mean the first episode of Beast Wars was pretty bad, much worse than this in fact, but as soon as they got past the pilot they were already writing exceptionally good stories even before the plot took off with the Vok and stuff.

When I saw the first promo picture of Prime, I didn't like it anymore than you did, but somehow I've just come to accept it. I think the designs are good, and while I do think a more serious stylization of them would be cooler, it's somehow not really an issue. The chin thing is bizarre, but I can accept the look much easier than I have been able to with the Mike Bay junkpile bots.

What annoyed you about Prowl so much?

And I like Prime's voice, to me it's very "Duke" from GI Joe.

At least you gave it a chance! And you lived! :p

I'm with Penguin, ROTF!!!
It looks like Blaster is Soundwaves Conscience, which is why it explains




Soundwave switching sides!!!
lol

When I saw the first promo picture of Prime, I didn't like it anymore than you did, but somehow I've just come to accept it. I think the designs are good, and while I do think a more serious stylization of them would be cooler, it's somehow not really an issue. The chin thing is bizarre, but I can accept the look much easier than I have been able to with the Mike Bay junkpile bots.

What annoyed you about Prowl so much?

And I like Prime's voice, to me it's very "Duke" from GI Joe.

At least you gave it a chance! And you lived! :p

I was always pretty sure I'd end up watching an episode though, I was just also pretty sure I would dislike it a lot.

Prowl was just way too much of an "OMG BADASS LONER" character for me to handle. Very predictable and silly.

$150 a good price for a brand new MP Megatron?

Including shipping?

I would try to go lower rally

Optimus Prime(Off to the side.): "I've found these and syringes and discovered they had steroids in them. Who's been juicing up?"

Ironhide(Thinking to himself): "Damn, he found out! I hope he doesn't realize it's me!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTZZeuwzEmg

I cannot tell you how excited I was to see this, even if I didn't understand half of it. :) I'm as giddy as a school girl. His energy is infectious and I've been missing him horribly.

Yay, Silverbolt!

Yeah he's cool

Bikertrash recently became a youtube partner...oooh, ritzy

One day people will clamor for MY reviews I tell ya

Animated Episode 4 torrent - http://darkprime.gotdns.com:6969/torrents/Transformers+Animated+-+04+-+Home+is+Where+the+Spark+is.avi.torrent?5158AD0DD8 3D7000AE0BF8D7C69FC4CBD0B726EF

I'm not the biggest fan of the movie aesthetic but I think I'm gonna buy this:



Forearms are way too big, and I think the feet shouldn't be white, but he actually looks pretty cool. Not a junkpile bot with an insect face!

Yeah, that is by far the best looking movie figure I've seen. I'm not gonna buy it, but I would take it if someone offered it to me for free, which is more than I can say for most of them.

For that exact reasoning, I don't find that very appealing =/

While for all intents and purposes I now actively dislike the movie itself, I still like the movie aesthetic, and that is rather lacking it.

I've always been weird, what can I say?

You can tell it's Hasbro design rather than some crazy ILM/Bay wankery



I think something like that for the feet/shins would be better, but eh. I'm a color nazi when it comes to TFs, hardly ever happy with what they come up with.

I think something like that for the feet/shins would be better, but eh. I'm a color nazi when it comes to TFs, hardly ever happy with what they come up with.I know what you mean about being a color nazi. If I really think the colors are way off, I always repaint my figures, especially if it's one of my favorite characters.


I actually like the movie asthetic, only cause they have a more believable transformation and somewhat proportional than the cartoon transformers, in which they tend to be way out of proportion in robot form just to have the proportions of their transformations right.


Also - Hey Ktulu, isn't that Captain Bucky O'Hare on your avatar/sig?

It sure is, another awesome Hasbro boy's action property

Titanium series aside - I think the proportions of most more current Transformers have been fairly decent really - and some "cartoonyness" and "unbelievability" is fine, because what's NOT cartoony or unbelievable about sentient alien transforming robots anyway eh?

Animated voyager packaging

Starscream looks pretty cool, sort of reminds me of the YF-19 in Macross Plus.:



It sure is, another awesome Hasbro boy's action property

Titanium series aside - I think the proportions of most more current Transformers have been fairly decent really - and some "cartoonyness" and "unbelievability" is fine, because what's NOT cartoony or unbelievable about sentient alien transforming robots anyway eh?
That's not what I meant. :rolleyes:

I don't know about you, but I remember when I was a kid, I looked at my transformers and always thought "they don't look like they do on the cartoon". Now, I know about the limitations of moldings and stuff, and I do admit that they tend to look a bit better aside from some awkwardness or proportions - and the use of plastic rather than die-cast. :rolleyes:

Another thing was that as a kid I thought a lot about how they would look if they were real, and after seeing the movie toys - since the movie tends to quickly blur through the transformation unlike the cartoons, the transformations look believable and logical.

Show accuracy hasn't been a huge problem in a while. Some toys here and there are off a bit, but it's not been really bad since G1 - and those issues were almost always due to the toy coming first, and then the comic or animation team stylizing them to look sleeker. Otherwise, the majority of them have been close. The most non-toy accurate line since G1 was probably Beast Machines.

Die-cast, meh, the recent Titanium line used die-cast parts and those toys suck ass. It's over rated really.

Die-cast, meh, the recent Titanium line used die-cast parts and those toys suck ass. It's over rated really.I know they suck ass, I was talking about the G1 series. I remember when they first brought out the G1 series and seeing them in plastic and just knowing how easily they'd break after a few times transforming them.

As Optimus Primal said in Beast Wars I when finding the Ark:
"Die-cast construction - it's a lost art."

I still need to get the Beast Wars DVD sets :(

Season 1 is crazy high priced for some reason

I always thought Optimus's die-cast reference was hilarious, but honestly, there's nothing that great about it. People who think that plastic TFs are fragile or breakable have simply never tried to break one. They are in fact very durable, and those pieces that do come off (like ball joint legs) are designed to snap right back on with no trouble. Die cast kind of sucks imo. The paint comes off faster.

The only die-cast toys that are worth a shit are uber expensive Japanese mech toys and stuff, collector pieces with crazy engineering and hefty prices to compensate for the work put into them. It's definitely something that shouldn't have a heavy presence in regularly priced kids toys. The G1 stuff was even pretty expensive if you ever look up the original retail prices. I think the first wave deluxe cars, whose robot modes are much shorter than today's 10 dollar deluxes, were like 15 dollars or more? It was the die-cast. People that cry about the new ones not having them are just stuck up nostalgia's ass. There's definitely a lot of pros to just using sturdy plastic - price being the main one for me.

Apparently there's some light die-cast construction in the Animated toys, but it's nothing dumb like the Titanium stuff where you have blocky die-cast legs hanging off of weak plastic ball joints. The Galoob team that engineered those things should be fired. Ruined perfectly good Don Figueroa designs. Meh, I say.

I actually bought some of the plastic transformers, and each one broke.
I forgot which one's they were - I think it was G2 Jetfire and Air Raid - but they were mini jets fighters.
One was an F-14 with light grey/dark grey camo print.
the other was a Stealth Fighter
I also had an AH-64 Apache with forest green camo - I think it was Powerdive.
The F-14's swing hinge got too loose and eventually never stayed in place, The Stealth Fighter's arm hinge broke off while I was trying to put it in a pose, while the AH-64's hinge tail broke off while trying to transform it.
Don't think I kept forcing them, I learned long ago with my old Mospeda Cyclones cycle/armors

These were the only ones I liked, and the last ones I ever bought.

:o

Are your hands made of stone? I've never heard of Cyberjets breaking like that. Personally - I have Jetfire and he's still fine after all these years

This time, Rumble is bigger than Soundwave. Breakdown should also be a bit shorter, and Swindle a bit taller/larger.

AKOM animation is the greatest

Octopus loves Optimash Prime (http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=83550&in_page_id=2)

I actually bought some of the plastic transformers, and each one broke.
I forgot which one's they were - I think it was G2 Jetfire and Air Raid - but they were mini jets fighters.
One was an F-14 with light grey/dark grey camo print.
the other was a Stealth Fighter
I also had an AH-64 Apache with forest green camo - I think it was Powerdive.
The F-14's swing hinge got too loose and eventually never stayed in place, The Stealth Fighter's arm hinge broke off while I was trying to put it in a pose, while the AH-64's hinge tail broke off while trying to transform it.
Don't think I kept forcing them, I learned long ago with my old Mospeda Cyclones cycle/armors

These were the only ones I liked, and the last ones I ever bought.

yeah pretty much agreeing with Ktulu on this. You must handle your TFs like a gorilla. Almost all of mine are all plastic and I can drop them, beat them, transform them a million times, and even throw them in boxes for years without them showing any signs of damage.

I wanted to talk about Transformers but instead I find my self talking about how I want to talk about them. It realy sucks, I failed at both attempts because I'm not even talking.


(Not to be confused w/the soldier, Optimus Prime Fodder (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=3828))

wkyc.com � "Optimus Prime is heading out to the Middle East with his guard unit on Wednesday to provide fire protection for airfields under combat."

lol, call me Mr. Magnus.

yeah pretty much agreeing with Ktulu on this. You must handle your TFs like a gorilla. Almost all of mine are all plastic and I can drop them, beat them, transform them a million times, and even throw them in boxes for years without them showing any signs of damage.

Yeah it seems weird for him to have such bad problems.

Thinking about it more - the G2 Cyberjets are heavily KOed toys. Vastalis, you sure you got the official ones?

Yeah it seems weird for him to have such bad problems.

Thinking about it more - the G2 Cyberjets are heavily KOed toys. Vastalis, you sure you got the official ones?

Well, I left a bit of info out.
My oldest nephew was 5 years old at the time. He constantly bugged me about transforming them. One day, he caught me in a bad mood, and well...





...let's just say that no one should ever try transforming a figure while pissed off. :p
that was one figure, the others were worn out by my nephew.

AH HA

AH HAYeah, well...





...That still doesn't mean they're better than Die cast. I still have my G1 Jetfire/Macross VF-1S repaint, and the only thing broken on it are the plastic parts like the arms and Tail wings.

Well there's different types of plastics - some is shitty and brittle, like most KOs, and yet some would probably survive a nuclear fucking holocaust, and again, it's much cheaper to make a quality plastic toy than a quality die cast toy, and they have a better chance of not ending up with chipped paint, and no chance of rust

Well there's different types of plastics - some is shitty and brittle, like most KOs, and yet some would probably survive a nuclear fucking holocaust, and again, it's much cheaper to make a quality plastic toy than a quality die cast toy, and they have a better chance of not ending up with chipped paint, and no chance of rustWell you can say the same for Die Cast. Some companies actually do make good molds, while other try to punch out a quick half fast piece of shit to make a quick buck.

I wanted to talk about Transformers but instead I find my self talking about how I want to talk about them. It realy sucks, I failed at both attempts because I'm not even talking.


(Not to be confused w/the soldier, Optimus Prime Fodder (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=3828))

wkyc.com � "Optimus Prime is heading out to the Middle East with his guard unit on Wednesday to provide fire protection for airfields under combat."

Zombie Prime?

http://www.thetfcog.com/episodes/TFWW1Med.zip

Medium quality download of the War Within animated project

Given how much work it has to be to take static art and convincingly animate it, however limited it may ultimately be, especially when it was just one guy - it's pretty impressive.

The sound is nice too. Sometimes the levels are where you can't hear everything clearly, but overall a fine job, again by one guy

In this I play Kup, Gravitas, Darklight (the one yelling IT'S YOUR HEAD ON A SPIKE!") and an uncredited Skids, don't know why they left that out. I also recorded screaming/dying for one of the generic bots that didn't get used :o

My only gripe is that sometimes the picture is too blurry, they could've sharpened some.

Personal critique on myself is that I think all my characters sound the same, luls. Hopefully that's just me worrying too much and not necessarily true

They cracked on my Kup at the Allspark forums, I guess mostly cos he didn't sound like the old fucker from G1, but this comic is like millions of years before all that shit so why exactly should he sound like a cranky old man?

I can see that voice evolving into the final product. Kudos for thinking about that, I say.

The guy in charge specifically told me to make him sound a lot younger so that's what I tried. Lots of people are too into the old stuff to accept any changes though, even if they make sense.

Some people don't like Prime's voice also, but you know, it makes sense for him to not sound as hardened and experienced also, and that was a conscious deviation as well

Still though, voices as aside, the sound and animation were done well, because like I said, that's a lot of shit to do for a team of two guys you know

Edit - Someone said the same at tformers, but the head of the project explained the difference and the guy seemed to get it after that

BALLS OUT

I don't like Optimus's voice either. I'm fine with him sounding less experienced and stuff but in this it's just a totally different style of voice, and it just doesn't sound very much like an inspiring leader, even an inspiring leader in training.

Most of the voices are fine I think though. A few of them seemed either too flat or too... unflat, I guess. But given that it's all nonprofessional voice acting that's expected. Pretty impressive project overall. Is there a higher quality download available? I'd like to burn it to a DVD.

Makes me want to try voice acting one of these things sort of. I bet I could have done a better Optimus.

Apparently the Prime voice actor can do a Peter Cullen voice but he was told not to by the guy running this, and has been saying on forums "blame me if you don't like it"

TK TELL ME IF MY ACTING SUCKED PLX

I gave a lot of takes and they used all the ones I wouldn't have picked, the less expressive ones. I guess he wanted it to be understated?

hurge version is here: http://www.thetfcog.com/episodes/TFWW1HiRes.zip

Haven't checked it out yet so I don't know how much better it is

None of my characters return in the second issue except Skids, but I'll be trying out for a buttload of new people, like Insecticons/Constructicons/Soundwave etc

ogod tk thinks I suck

So Saturday's TF Animated was kinda cool. Went into Ratchet's past, showed how he got his crest injury (strikes me odd that he wouldn't just fix it though, he is, after all, a medic) and also marked Arcee's first appearance in the show, though it was in the past. No idea whether or not she'll turn up in the "present day".

Lockdown, the Decepticon car with a hook for his hand, looks to be a cool villain. He's more a mercenary type, not specifically a Decepticon. His design is kind of asymmetrical and they worked that into his character as him taking various weapons and such from the people he defeats. The whole episode he was fucking people up with an EMP he stole from Ratchet in the past (that's what the arm injury he had was about), even had Prime knocked out and was stealing his axe and such things. Cool character I thought.

Ohhhhhh and the next Masterpiece toy is possibly Grimlock but it's not totally confirmed.

Pics of Takara's Classics repaints turned up too recently, but imo none of them actually look better except for Megatron. On the rest they basically just gave them really plain decos trying to be more accurate to the old cartoon. Bumblebee being pure yellow and black makes him just look like a prototype. The white and grey on the Hasbro one actually broke up the monotony really well now in retrospect. Anyway, blah. Still nice lookin toys of course, but Megs is the only real improvement in my mind. Some people are freaking over Prime JUST BECAUSE HE HAS BLUE FISTS though, which is insane.

this is one of the greatest movie in year 2007. nice cinematography and nice cast.

Really?!! I hated it. Well hate is a strong word, but seriously I did not like it.

ogod tk thinks I suck


I attempted posting a response last night but the board zonked out and froze so I saved it for later. ; (

I liked your Kup and wasn't paying enough attention to who's who to say about the others you did. I think you're fine, though. There were only one or two voices in the thing I really didn't like.

Also: I find it sort of hilarious that an EMP can be used to render Transformers unconscious in this series. You'd think they might have advanced a little beyond that, or else, like, why wouldn't both sides just use that as their primary weapon. ?_?

It was attempted to be explained that their EMPs are intended for medical use and this guy got the idea to abuse it, but you do have a point

Well as long as you don't think I sucked lols, but if you did think that it'd be fine! I know everyone won't like it since it's different. My only other big character was the weird fucking robot that wouldn't shut the hell up when Optronix is turning into Prime, the other two had like one line each

I liked the way the visuals were done but a lot of the voice acting was cheesy as hell, Ktulu. Grimlock added a lot of personality to it but I could barely hear most of the dialog. Then there's the narrator, the worst of them all! Just my opinion but I'm glad I checked it out.

Thanks for taking the time

I think the voice acting is cheesy to an extent, but you really can't expect it to sound as good as a professionally done animation; you're working with volunteer talent who don't have tons of experience with this sort of thing and they don't have the best equipment etc. I thought it was really good for a fan project.

Furman's dialogue is also pretty wacky sometimes. I know it was personally hard to know how to deliver some of it. Also, none of us had the benefit of hearing each other's lines to work off of, so you might have one guy talking aggressively to someone who's responding back quietly and it might not work out that great. There's lots of things against it in the end

Yeah, totally. I know what you mean about Furman's dialogue. It's kind of Star Wars-like in that it's good in context but very difficult to actually say without sounding ridiculous.

I'm sure the next one will be better. This one took about 7 months to complete, in terms of animation, and he also had to wait for a lot of people's lines. I did all mine way back in July though. The final sound was done fairly quickly, I think in a month or so? Still, it'll probably be summer or fall by the time the next one is done.

SEND THE BOOKS



KNOCK OFF CONVOY DEMANDS IT

hahaha. Awesome. I am heading for the post office now convoy plx do not be impatient =(

http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/script-wrap-uk-3/#comments

Simon Furman gave the thumbs up to the War Within project on his blog in the comments

Not sure if he actually took the time to sit and watch it all, but that's still cool. Must feel really good for our director as well



Official pictures of Takara's Classics

As far as I'm concerned - Megatron is still the only one that's enough of an improvement to warrant purchase if you have the original. The rest, barring Bumblebee who now is too plain to me, have a few nice things changed here and there but ultimately aren't much better than the Hasbro ones, if at all. Then, I think some of the chrome is too randomly placed - like the chrome on Starscream's cannons.

I do like Bumblebee's shade of yellow better but other than that I like Hasbro's colors more.

Megs is improved so drastically I may actually get one.

Megs is a thing of beauty :love:

Voyagers are gonna be about 32 dollars plus shipping at most places, looks like that so far anyway. BBTS of course has them for way more at like 45, the bastards

Hobby Link Japan is already out of available pre-order slots on Megs. Imagine that.

The thing that bothers me the most about them is the white on Starscream, like his arms and waist. The hell is that?

The Starscream(s) were always nicely designed. I never owned one before, m'self. I HATE YOU DAD!

Namor would you like that old toy I wanted to help you find but couldn't if it was black with flames instead of green? They're going to bring it out with new colors, as described, soon

So - TF movie has been officially nominated for Academy Awards in Special Effects, Sound Editing, and Sound Mixing.

Couldn't care less if it wins for the sound, those aspects of the movie didn't impress me, but against the competition in special effects I'd say it does deserve to win (it's against pirates of the caribbean and the golden compass)

Pirates and children suck. TF, ftw.

Man, that last Pirates movie was kinda wacky. HEY THE CHICK IS CALISTO, SHE IS TURNING INTO A GIANT, WE'RE FUCKED, OH WAIT SHE'S DANCIN AROUND - WHAT, WHAT, OH FUCK, SHE TURNED INTO A BUNCH OF CRABS? WHAT THE FUCK, OH OK THE WIND IS ON OUR SIDE YIPEE

I'll probably order Takara Classics Grimlock, maybe.

You can probably find the Hasbro one cheaper! It doesn't really look much different.

Actually, it looks more detailed and a bit more warrior-esque due to a black paint wash on the dino parts

I have Hasbro Grimlock.

The Takara one probably looks different because all my transformers have been packed away for months.

Man if you have that one I wouldn't bother with the Takara one :o

But it's your money!

Are there any of the other Classics you never got? Are you still refusing to buy Decepticons?

I'll probably see about getting the decepticons now that I have a bit more cashflow.

Still need Jetfire.

I'd like to pick up a G1 Sixshot Reissue if they have those.

See, Screamy and Megs are two of the handful of Decepticons I am very willing to buy. I wanted a classics Starscream and that Megs is OH SO NICE, but I just shelled out for FF figures ;_;;

Best Classics Decepticon after Megatron is either Skywarp or Ramjet imo

I eagerly await the next batch later this year so I can finally have more in those ranks that aren't just seekers. It did suck that Thundercracker and the other 2 coneheads were Botcon exclusives, but really, Classics Decepticons were already mostly jets without them anyway :o

Namor would you like that old toy I wanted to help you find but couldn't if it was black with flames instead of green? They're going to bring it out with new colors, as described, soon..

That would be dope, Ktulu but this would be CRACK! \/





I GOT HIM!!

From teh TF Collector Club, wave 1 of the new Classics will be:

Deluxe:

Prowl
Sunstreaker
Tankor (Octane)

If they can't use Octane for the name, I don't see why they didn't opt for Mega-Octane, the RiD version of Onslaught, but oh well. Tankor makes sense seeing as one of the alt-modes is a tanker truck/oil rig/broohaha

Ultra:

Onslaught
Powerglide!

Obviously, Prowl and Sunstreaker will be repainted/retooled as Silverstreak/Smokescreen and Sideswipe

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4194&Itemid=99

It's just too much

Onslaught and Powerglide both strike me as slightly odd choices. Why no Onslaught without combaticons, and why Powerglide at all when they could have done someone more iconic, etc. But oh well, I expect both will be pretty kickass either way.

But man. Octane instead of Blitzwing? WTF, hasbro? And why are the Decepticons getting another triple changer anyway when they've already got Astrotrain? duuuuuumb.

monk and psych tonight on usa TRANSformers on ch 49 tommorow!

Did they re-release the first "Movie series" toys?
Cause I just bought a Movie Deluxe '74 Camaro Bumblebee.

I still need that. So I can make my Selphie straddle it. Just like Marvin's!

Sorry, it was the only one left.
You can still find Swindle, Thundercracker, Wreckage, and the rest of the re-paint figures.

Funk that :mad:

I did find a re-paint "Jazz" Smokescreen!

I still need that. So I can make my Selphie straddle it. Just like Marvin's!

And boy-howdie, did Selphie enjoy it!

I still have all the original decepticon classics to get.

Plus Jetfire

Takara megs tho for obvious reasons

Wow like half a page without a post by me, you guys stepped it up yesterday

Vastalis - Any wave 1 movie toys you see are not "re-releases", they're just still shipping



But man. Octane instead of Blitzwing? WTF, hasbro? And why are the Decepticons getting another triple changer anyway when they've already got Astrotrain? duuuuuumb.

Did you miss the picture of Onslaught I posted a while ago?

Triple changers tend to be a popular gimmick, so I guess that's why they did another one. Plus they made like 1 million seekers so why not? I wouldn't be surprised if see one of the Autobot ones before the line is over - I'd hope for Springer since his original toy REALLY sucked.

I thought they did mention Blitzwing as one they're gonna do, back at Botcon last year

I thought they did too, it's just odd to me that they would do Octane first. If it doesn't sell well they'll be like OMG CLASSICS ARENT SELLING BETTER STOP MAKING THEM. Whereas like every single person ever would buy Blitzwing.

Haha, well I doubt they'll do bad. Judging from the concept art, the toy should be cool. It shouldn't ruin the whole line or anything. I'm sure given the popularity of Bayformers they'll all move pretty well.

Penelo?


I've said it before, i'll say it again. Springer does indeed need a classics release. Though, I have also said that Blitzwing would be VERY acceptable.

I want a Cyclonus

I'm gonna bore whoever reads this with my own personal ridiculous drama - Some guy has been being bitchy and trying to correct me in my video about the Universe toy news.

For some background, I mentioned Sideswipe's different chest, and the potential of a Prowl repaint as "Silverstreak" - knowing that if they throw down the 'Streak colors, he'll probably be called Silverstreak rather than Blue.

Here we go:


the guy:
Silverstreak? Alternators addict much? you mean bluestreak.
And sideswipe is not going to have a new chest,he just looks like on the artwork if you rotate the head around. that way you can make sunstreaker look like the artwork too.

me:
No, I do not mean Bluestreak. Silverstreak is now the official name for that character, they no longer have the Trademark for Bluestreak. Even Hasbro's G1 Reissue Bluestreak was named Silverstreak.

Sideswipe's robot mode chest will not be the same as Sunstreaker's due to the engineering. Both chests are already in the mold, but regardless, as they don't use the same chest, what I said wasn't wrong.

guy:
yeah i know,but fans still refer to tankor with octane as well.
Though seriously,their patent on the name mega-octane can't have expired yet.
The only things that are going to be retooled about sideswipe are the head,hands and possibly a new weapon.

me:
Just because fans are gonna call Tankor "Octane" I'm supposed to call Silverstreak "Bluestreak"?

And again, I really didn't say anything wrong about Sideswipe

guy:
I didn�t say you HAD to.
I was just asking if you purposely said silverstreak. as many just still don�t accept the name.
And about sideswipe,you said he would have a "new" chest mold,but he won't.

me:
You didn't ask me that at all, you flat out told me I meant to say Bluestreak, trying to correct me.

About Swipe, I said "it's going to be repainted and retooled, it'll have a different chest and head"

Now certainly, if you really want to reach and say I'm totally wrong just because I didn't mention that the "different chest" is already part of the toy, be my guest, but I'm well aware already that that isn't the case. However, if you truly have to correct people over not saying things the exact perfect way you would to get your jollies, fine by me man

However, to me, the toy's official transformation features a chest that is not the same as Sunstreakers. Regardless of how that result comes about, I don't feel saying it's different is wrong.

guy:
Don't flame instantly.
And i only mentioned bluestreak because you still used names like powerglide for example,if you were using official names you would have said Fireflight.
You shouldn't attack people just because they correct a mistake you made.

me:
I didn't make a mistake! That's why I'm insistent on arguing this.

You seem to be hellbent on wronging me. There's not a thing wrong with calling Bluestreak Silverstreak. If Prowl is repainted in those colors, it will inevitably called Silverstreak. Would a god damn side note "HEY BUT THATS REALLY BLUESTREAK LOL" have made you happier?

And again, I said Sideswipe's chest will be different, and it is. Nothing wrong there.

Also - I did not flame you at all. Such things tend to consist of unwarranted insult and rampant cursing.

Oh, and the club news said "Powerglide" - not Fireflight, thus I said Powerglide. Again you're nitpicking my video needlessly.

That's all for now. What do you think? I think he's just nitpicking and trying to one up me, proving me wrong and all that when I never really said anything off to begin with, but hey, personal bias.

Eh, I think this is just another case of Don't Feed the Trolls.

He adds:

"If powerglide is not fireflight,than bluestreak is not silverstreak,try using a little thing called consistency."

Luls. I can't believe he's going to such a length to try proving me wrong

Out of package Takara Classics Megs:

Ill definately go for Takara megs reather than hasbro when the time comes around.

I don't get why he is arguing with you about which name to use. =/ Start using the Malaysian names for characters for lolz.

I don't get the random chrome chest, but he looks good otherwise

What I don't get, is why they call it "Classics Meg" if it hardly looks like Meg except for the Arm Cannon and Head.

Yeah, that would be really strange. I don't know why they would do that if he didn't look like Megatron either.

What I don't get, is why they call it "Classics Meg" if it hardly looks like Meg except for the Arm Cannon and Head.

I always assumed it was because they are new versions of G1 characters.

All the classic characters from G1.

LOL I COULD BE TALKING OUT MY ARSE THO

Penguin u rite

None of the Classics line represent the G1 designs verbatim. Overall, the line is meant as an update of the G1 characters, with the toys sharing a lot of design cues of the old designs and toys but not necessarily coming out as exact replicas.

To do so would be impossible for Megatron anyway. They wanted to release him in the US, and to do so, he had to be a new style of gun rather than the realistic Walther P-38. Even with the "Nerf" gun-mode, I think you're really under-estimating that Megatron's similarity to the G1 version in robot mode. Imagine it without the wings and he's really close.

I guess :rolleyes:
I've always hated the fact that that companies went P.C with their toy lines.
I'm surprised that Hasbro kept the realistic looking weapons for the Joes.

How does Megs look transformed?

It's not about being PC, it's about not breaking laws. They legally can't release a Walther-P38 toy without painting it completely orange and blue. Rather than force such a thing onto fans, they came up with the best possible gun mode they could while still keeping it from being unrealistic.

I don't have a good picture of the Japanese one, but here is the US one:



The Japanese one will be silver/red/black, without the purple, orange, or green

The weapons for GI Joes are allowed to be realistic seeing as the majority of them are a few centimeters long and not possibly mistaken for real as they're way too tiny. A Megatron toy transforming to a gun though ends up as a reasonably scaled gun, so they can't make it look real.

i was watching the original transformers this morning and that american music they had playing for prime was like 90's retro

More like the 80s son

And...American music? Why wouldn't it be American music?

HEY GUESS WHAT

iPod Convoy Repaint pictures:







I feel soooooooooooo bad for people that jumped the gun and bought the all white one :laugh: