I don't care, that's sexy.

And now in wallpaper w/lemony scent~

tiled, of course

YOU DISGUST ME

Hells yeah it's tiled ^______^

Where can I find this G1? Might it be on G4? :loldata:

If only...

BTW THE SAGA CONTINUES (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/239837-bay-gets-honored-japan-3.html#post3737630)

It looks like Omega Suprime is looking at Ultra Magnus as to say, "what a dick"

OMG OMG OMG

Is that thing real? Does it transform!?!

I just saw a cross promotion NBA/Transformers commercial during the NBA finals. It was Optimus spinning a basketball on his finger then he dunked it.

I couldn't help myself.

I would, but like trying not to spend obscene amounts for the moment.

Wouldn't be surprised if I caved enough to get Rampage, though.

I'm glad I don't like any of them really, I absolutely can't afford buying shit like that now. If I was into them I probably would've caved :(

PS MarvSkraight if you have Starscream you can have combiner fun:

That's nifty as shit, Ktulu :D

Oh, wow, I wonder what combo I can come up with.

I know the guy that did that. He's the one with the videos on Youtube showing people how to draw Optimus and Power Girl. Hilarious guy.

Oh, awesome! I remember you showed me his Power Girl video ages ago. I probably have more stuff of his saved and don't even know it, my image folders are ridiculous. It's hard not to use threads as an image dump sometimes, I have so much awesome I want to share.

So is anyone else reading All Hail Megatron?

I was, but I decided it was a good time to quit buying comic books when Spider Girl ended, and I don't miss AHM at all. I thought it was awful, a really disappointing step down from the comics Furman had been writing for IDW—they undid a lot of the really interesting innovations he had made in order to revert things back to G1 clonism, and the plot reads like a hollywood blockbuster movie, with super predictable dialogue and ridiculously stereotypical characters. I was really bummed about it after the intelligent sci fi epic stuff that I'd been reading up until that point. I stayed on for six or seven issues and they kept promising things were going to get interesting and cool and it never happened, so I have no desire to finish that story.

Tch. First female transformers and now gay ones. Like there would really be gay robots.

I was, but I decided it was a good time to quit buying comic books when Spider Girl ended, and I don't miss AHM at all. I thought it was awful, a really disappointing step down from the comics Furman had been writing for IDW�they undid a lot of the really interesting innovations he had made in order to revert things back to G1 clonism, and the plot reads like a hollywood blockbuster movie, with super predictable dialogue and ridiculously stereotypical characters. I was really bummed about it after the intelligent sci fi epic stuff that I'd been reading up until that point. I stayed on for six or seven issues and they kept promising things were going to get interesting and cool and it never happened, so I have no desire to finish that story.

Ah, I've been enjoying it, but I don't usually read Transformer comics, so I didn't really have anything I was expecting when I came into read it. It's just been a good fun villain story with some good action scenes.

What do you think are some of the best Transformers comic story arcs? I'd love to check out what you think is good.

Well the IDW comics started in a series of miniseries written by Simon Furman. They go Infiltration, Stormbringer, Escalation, Devastation, and Revelation. Stormbringer is sort of the weird odd man out in that it came second but chronologically it happens before any of the others, before the war came to earth.

Escalation and Devastation are the best of those miniseries imo but they make more sense if you read Infiltration first. It's interesting, but it is a bit too slow to start, so only the last couple issues were actually exciting (but they were very exciting! There is a Megatron/Starscream encounter in the final issue of Infiltration that in two or three pages is cooler, more descriptive of their personalities and their past, and much more important from a story perspective than all the many pages of generic "Starscream you fool" stuff in AHM.)

Revelation isn't bad, but it seems a bit too abrupt, as it's only 4 issues, and it leaves behind a lot of stuff. However Furman is wrapping up those loose ends right now in Maximum Dinobots, which I think is great.

You can also find two trades of "Spotlight" issues which vary greatly in quality; they are one-shot issues put out that focus on a particular character and often expand on elements of the main storyline told in Furman's arcs. Some of those issues are extremely good. Off the top of my head I'd say the ones centering on Optimus Prime, Ramjet, and Blaster are all especially good.

There are two main things I really like about Furman's story arcs: first, he comes up with really fresh and new things to do with the Transformers, whereas almost every other writer I've seen always just rehashes a lot of stuff from G1. In his stories, the TFs actually have a reason for transforming. The Decepticons are a race that infiltrate foreign worlds subtly and cause them to collapse in on themselves through war and economic crisis, and their transformations are part of their ability to operate without being detected. Once a world is destroyed they move in, finish it off, and take the resources. It's actually somewhat believable! This is one of the reasons why I resent AHM. They completely ignored this and decided to just suddenly have the Decepticons go on rampages and destroy cities. Now we are back to giant robots who for no apparent reason transform into earth vehicles.

And the other thing I really like is how methodic and careful he is. His stories always have some action, but it's a small part an issue. He really recognizes how many distinct personalities there are in the TF universe (partially because he helped to create so many of them by writing the Marvel comics in the 80s) and he really, really fleshes them out. He takes his time to tell a good story with a lot of mystery and intrigue, which I think is very rarely done in Transformers, and that's a shame because its universe has so much potential for those kinds of things.

Now that Starscream is by my comp again, I am ready to rant more. How did something so inaccurate get released?

Let's extend the masterpiece line to include Animated. Get Optimus the rest of his...self. Make Lugnut and Bulkhead supreme classes and make a REAL Starscream with regular legs.

GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE

From what I've seen a lot of people are feeling the same about AHM, TK. Hasn't been too acclaimed so far.

1) When you purchase your toys, do you have a limit that you impose on yourself as to how many you get at a certain time or is it as many as you can possibly afford/want?

2) When you unbox your toy, do you keep any of the packaging or instructions

3) Is posing your figure for display of high importance to you?

4) Do you own multiples of the same figure? (excluding repaints)

5) Do you buy/avoid any characters because they are repaints

6) Which is most important to you when purchasing a toy? Visual aesthetic, character personality, toy playability, ingenuity of transformation, rarity or how new the toy is?

7) Do you keep missles/launchable weapons loaded for firing, stored on the figure or separately?

8) Are there any characters you would not like to own simply because of who they are? Likewise are there any toys you would not like to own because of how the toy is made?

9) What is your personal favorite toyline?

10) If rapid run leaves Tokyo at 100 mph and rail spike leaves Kyoto at 130 mph and both leave at exactly 4pm, how long will it take them to realize they're actually giant robots and don't need to adhere to train schedules?

1.) I try to save money where I can, but if my heart wants it, I will end up getting it. I'm absolutely CERTAIN more ROTF toys will find their way into my grubby hands.

I have never decided to buy an entire line, and I doubt I ever will. I decide who I like and I go for 'em, if the means are there.

2.) No, I hardly have enough room in here for the toys themselves :o

3.) Space is prioritized, but yes, I tend to try to pose/arrange things in some simple sense of order. My Roddys and Jazzes are arranged in semi-circles in alt mode, the Brothers are standing next to each other with their arms touching, kinda hi5, fist bump stylee.

4.) Nope.

5.) I haven't really had to cross that bridge, but in a hypothetical situation, I will say that sometimes repaints suit a figure better. Classics Ratbat comes to mind instantaneously. If I had Cybertron Sideways (I think it's sideways) I'd probably buy Ratbat, because that mold was made for that paint job.

6.) Visual aesthetic is always there, but just as I pick Pokemon based on the anime, so too do I buy TF because of the cartoons. G1 Roddy Prime is a shitbox, but I still love it.

7.) On the figure. Animated Blitzwing looks awesome with his missles in <3

8.) Yeah, pretty much every toy that I don't buy, since I buy based on characters. On the one hand, no, because I own a good handful of toys that I don't like as toys just because I love their character (e.g., G1 Roddy Prime, again, and Animated Starscream). On the other, yes, there are plenty of toys that I hate as toys and will never buy because of it.

9.) Animated. That they can have the exaggerated proportions and still work seamlessly is mindblowing. Animated Jazz is fighting G1 Roddy for my favorite toy EVER. Jazz is plastic sex, mang.

10.) Ugh.


Hey, Ktulu, I just watched Peaugh's video for Human Alliance Bumblebee. Does this mean that Skids will be voyager-ish size too?

Neg I imagine so.

BTW I hear Rampage is the most important Constructicon in the movie, even goes as far as being the only one called by name :o You lucked out there

I successfully avoided buying him today. I had to take Clerks II back because I grabbed the full screen by mistake

WHY DO THEY FUCKING EXIST?!?!?

and the heat made me get back in my car and not go anywhere else but home. Thanks mother nature <333




I'm so buying that son of a bitch now, and you know it~

Well hurry up so we can be Rampage buddies!!!!

Selphie's getting a new playmate.

[INSERT GIL HICKS JACKHAMMER JOKE FROM MALLRATS]

HOLLA

Totally watched Silverbolt's video.

I got tired of watching his stuff really

I still haven't opened my constructicons. Something is telling me to collect all 7 and keep 'em in the packaging.

I was on iTunes checking out the Transformers season 1 samples when I came across the autobots surfing? Has it been so long that I don't remember this? I need to make a signature of this. Stat!





I also took some stills of the constructicons in one of the new trailers.

haha, I remember the surfing. Awesome.

Well, you know I meant his video on ROTF, Ktulu. Also watched Dave et al.'s HOUR LONG RAP SESSION.

Man, I'm pissed, can't wait til next week to rant.

I don't think I could watch an hour of people talking about Transformers :o I'm starting to shy away from the VIDEOS ABOUT TRANSFORMERS thing in general. Maybe it was seeing my subscription box fill up with ROTF Sideswipe reviews from like 20 different guys, I don't know. I'm going to be doing a lot less of it myself after I review the movie. Nothing against people that do it or anything though, I just don't want to get trapped in that box. There's so many people doing it as well, and I don't see what I have to offer.

ROTF has a 39 percent at Rotten Tomatoes so far. The new breed of rabid movie fans of course are standing up to say OH NO FUCK CRITICS THEY KNOW SHIT when many of the same would shit on any other movie upon negative reviews. WHAT? PEOPLE AREN'T LIKING TERMINATOR SALVATION? I'D BETTER NOT SEE IT.

I don't care what critics say any time. Taking the stance for just one movie is kind of a weird bias.

I'm just as addicted to watching TF coverage on Youtube as I've ever been. Saw a picture of the icecream truck on set. Honestly didn't know it was going to be in.

As I said to Rob yesterday, I guess I'm just going to see it to see Devastator combine and Skids and Mudflap act like.......ya know.

Really disappointed with a lot of the plot points. A LOT. I'm sure the Baytography will just push me over the edge of outright rage~

And, for what it is worth, your parodies of reviewers and the pasttime in general are always great. If nothing else you're great at micro-social commentary. Though, even when you do regular reviews they are quality. Everyone in that community adores you, at least from the perspective of a youtube viewer. I'm not on the boards, so I can't say this with great authority, but you are loved and respected, to an astounding degree.

I don't think I'm very popular in that community at all really. I mean take a recent example, that Q&A video only has like 300 views. Compare it to JTMitchell's, it went up like a day or two after mine and it has 1,000 more. I don't get waves of people commenting my channel with video demands like others either. It's no big deal though. Transformers video fame doesn't interest me in the least.

I got bored and watched some of the hour long ROTF review. I found it odd that they all basically said it was awesome but then picked it apart. They really had a lot of issues to have liked it so much! The first 8 minutes was "it was really good" followed by almost an hour of "I didn't like..."

Strange.

That community mentions you all the time and asks you to be in their videos and everything. But, hey, it's your gig, do what makes you happy, man. That's all that matters, in the end.

I agree, they seemed really irrationally happy for all the problems they had. Oh well, I'm that way with some things, too. *shrug*

They're growing on me... slowly.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=20762
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=20763
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=20623

Don't care for them, but I like the Constructicons and the Twins. Probably the best I can do, given the circumstances.

But, we all already knew that...

But srsly? They couldn't have just stuck to the original design?

Original design has a transformation that actually involved effort, at least.

Had to have something new, you know how it is. The emphasis feels so much on the new that when Dave was talking about Ironhide and Rachet I was like oh they're still in?

I'm 15 in line at the theater. I was 5, but I had to pick up my nephews.

9:15 in the AM. *Crosses fingers*

Another 4 hours to go. X[

Ktulu's review of the first movie is fuggen aaaaaaaaaace :)

Thank you Neg.

I think I have my thoughts on ROTF fairly honed at this point. I'll try to do a review of it within the next day or so.

There's about 5 - 10 min left in the movie and the movie film fried. It's almost a riot up in here.


Edit:

Ok, I just got home. It's 3:40am now and here's what happend...

Prime just powered up with Jetfire's pieces. And as soon as Prime flies up to where the Fallen and Megs are, up on top of the pyramid, the movie reel goes...

That happened to Silverbolt too...

Interesting...

That's right I'm male up! 9:15 IT SHALL BE.

Not sure if you guys have seen the comics that this is playing off of, but I lol'd hard:



I am waiting until DVD to watch it again, I don't think this one is going to convert anybody who didn't like the last one.

They used 21 Guns....

I WANT THEM TO FUCKING DIE!!! THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO USE A SONG THAT AMAZING AS A THEME FOR A ROMANCE THAT CONTRIVED.

That's just seals it. Let me list my grievences:


*Still way too many humans
*Jolt, Sideswipe, Sideways, Demolishor. All in for like 2 seconds.
*All of the threats are minimized. Megs is The Fallen's lackey. The Fallen dies in like 2 seconds. Devy is destroyed by FUCKING HUMANS. WHERE'S MY MOVIE SUPERION!?!? Imagine how cool that would have been if they had been keeping that underwraps.
*BRINGING SHIA BACK TO LIFE WITH I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I ALMOST FUCKING VOMITED

Devastator combining was underwhelming. It was MEH.

The ONLY saving grace in this movie, THE ONLY, is the Twins. Sweet lord jesus I don't care if they are two bit players and comic relief, THEY ARE FUCKING NINJAS, BITCH!!!!!! :D

Mudflap didn't have me sold, until he BUSTED OUT OF DEVY'S HEAD! OMGOMGOMG. IT'S SUPPOSED TO HURT, IT'S AN ASSBEATIN'

YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE TWINS!!!

Did they survive? Fucking Baytography. Them vs Devy was OKAY the rest of the battles were still like GRRRRRR

Tuturro made me laugh, I admit it. This post is like pure emotional high/low, so yeah, deal~

Wow Neg that's very passionate

MarvStraight did you get to see the end?

I knows, I'm all hopped up on anger and lols~

Nope. We waited about 15 minutes while they attemted to fix the reel when theater staff came out and said it ain't gonna happen so they gave us free passes to come back another day. Pretty dissapointing. I might see it tonight.

I feel bad that you missed only like the last few minutes. I think those last few minutes might feel underwhelming once you see em. We'll see though, hope that won't be the case for you.

The theater must be managed by Ultra Magnus. The reel didn't get fixed and I'm sure I heard the manager say "I can't deal with that now" or something.

ROFL. ilu, Mark. By all means, give me your impressions otherwise.

I should probably go grab my twins before the kids rape the shelves tomorrow...

Wow Neg, you're so full of nerd rage. Perhaps I shouldn't watch the movie today then?

It's worth Matinee price. I liked it better than the original, but that doesn't take much.

I should probably go grab my twins before the kids rape the shelves tomorrow...

I think both are in later waves. People have found them but they aren't everywhere.

My review of the first is getting comments like "I think they fixed all of those problems with ROTF, I look forward to your review!" and that feels like "I look forward to you agreeing with me and really loving it!"

:( Don't wanna let anyone down and seem like the jerk that's too hard to please. I really thought this had the same issues though. It does have more robots but most of them don't do much :o

As far as my thought on the movie, it was ok. I thought there were too many sexually charged jokes and the movie wasn't as serious as I thought it would be. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Michael Jackson Bay said this movie would be more serious, and I thought it was quite the opposite. I was also dissapointed that Soundwave sounded like Dr. Claw. My hopes were ridiculously high when I read Frank Welker was doing the voice again

On the other hand I liked the plot, A lot of the new characters, like Ravage, Arcee "twins" (triplets?) and the constructicons, were great and the action was neat.


I think both are in later waves. People have found them but they aren't everywhere.

The've already been at my local Walmart for about a week.

I agree, Ktulu. Besides the fight I mentioned, I thought it was just as hard to follow, and it had about 5,000 humans too many.

Was it just me or were Longhaul and Scavenger out of scale, badly? Remember the pics I posted a long time ago? Demolishor was fine, but Scavenger wasn't. Look in Mark's pic on the last page.

One of the writers has been fielding questions on TFW2005 and he says they fought hard to get the Soundwave voice vocoded but Bay wouldn't have it. He said it was too hard to understand.

Robots screaming in Cybertronian, unexplained, leaving the audience to wonder what they said, and having half of the other dialogue hard to make out is cool though!

RottenTomatoes.com is currently giving the movie a rotten 20% out of 100. I think I may have to skip this one and wait for rental :(





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A lot of criticism has come from Mudflap/Skids being racist stereotypes, and Bay has publicly stated that he fucking blames it on the voice actors. What a class act. He could've just stuck up for the film, but no, he passes the buck and hopes no one will remember that as director he got to say what stayed/went.

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/997/997633p1.html

It's been previously stated that they were actually all Bay's idea, hence their heavy screen time, they're his babies. I can't believe he'd try to open up the voice actors for all the blame.

ktulu is i was director of your heart

my penis would stay



































in your butt

http://www.hlj.com/product/DAK37015

What uuuuup Rod fans, this is a crazy good deal. Would bite if I wasn't poor

By my math Hot Rod is $85.64 usd minus 65% = $29.97.

Got tickets for tonight, and I'm pretty excited. It's the premiere here. Never seen a movie on its opening night. O:

ack. shit. Ktulu. You can't link me to things like this. I am now having a fierce internal battle.

thats still like

a fair bit of money for a statue

Man, I find the twins interactions to be non-malicious and heartwarming. I'm not, you know, African-American, but I really have no problem with them.

Yes, I guess I am going to stand up for them every chance I get :mad:

Hells, yeah~

What happened to that little smart-ass Decepticon? Did it die? The loose ends drives me nuts.

I loved the movie, though. :)

I would expect such things to make you hate it. I am honestly startled at how much people like this movie even though they have major problems with it.

Wake up people, it's okay to say that Bay sucks. Cuz, he does~

I know I said I'm the same way with some things on the last page, but still, a LOT of people I am talking to are saying that they like it in spite of the problems. It is beginning to boggle my mind.

The twins seem to disappear too. One minute they're fighting Devs, the next they're nowhere to be found as Devs is climbing the pyramid. Wut :o

I tend to think a lot of it is due to the way the movie was rushed out. Don't have to say it again, but you know, it didn't even start production till...less than a year ago.

Neg did you get your deluxes at Wal-Mart? I saw they had em for 9 bucks today.


thats still like

a fair bit of money for a statue

Yeah but it's way cheaper than it's ever been before.

I got Skids at Target, Mudflap at Walmart. These stores are next to each other, so I think that's cute and appropriate.

And yeah, I mentioned the Twins disappearance in my initial post :)

You can like a movie, and dislike its flaws at the same time. To this day, I have yet to see what I'd consider to be a 100% perfect movie.

I'm by no means a Transformer follower, I just thought it was a good movie...

Well, if the loose ends were the only problem...

Ooooh contest!!!! (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/243496-tfw2005ers-response-roger-ebert-other-hatin-critics-win-50-gift-certificate.html#post3792541)

...and I entered! (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/243496-tfw2005ers-response-roger-ebert-other-hatin-critics-win-50-gift-certificate-2.html#post3792893)

I want to have ur babies <333333

It's harsher than I really feel. People love it, cool, even I don't hate it or anything (though I'll admit some of the IT'S THE BEST MOVIE EVER!!! sentiment is striking me a little oddly) but several of the anti-critic types are reading the reviews and saying "OMG THEY HATE IT FOR NO REAAAASON" even though the critiques are usually over things like...you know, basic plot and such. Then there's the "well it's just a toy commercial!" or "It's a summer action movie - you expected too much!!!!" type defenses. So...the fact that it doesn't aim for anything more at all is a good thing somehow? Man. I don't know.

It sucks having so many reservations about such a big chapter of something you've always loved.

I like it in a "ooooh that's shiny and neat when I can actually see what's going on" sorta way.

Might even shell out again. The twins are worth another 5.

And obviously Devy balls are worth an overpriced theater soda

I tried making this macro of Skids and 'flap looking up confounded but the text got screwed on compression. It said:

U seein' wot I'm seein'?!?!
I wish ta hell I wasn't!!!!

I don't get food at the movies, for the very most part. I did get popcorn when I saw......what the hell did I see a while back....ORIGINS!

You know what bothered me about Devy (besides what I already said in a spoiler above)? His combination wasn't what we've come to expect. It goes back to what you said about Jazz's death, Ktulu. What we saw of him combining was unfulfilling. It was just oh gonna pull these things together. Where's the slowed transformation of each part? Where's the linking? Where's the eyes lighting up to tell us individual personalities are gone, the gestalt has been awakened?

It wasn't there. How it's presented is everything, and he didn't deliver :(

Got the twins.

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Be careful how you transform them. They can come out bent over if you aren't careful. Believe Vangelus, not the instructions.

I just finished realizing they're both a bee-otch to transform.


edit: grr!!! I'm getting mad at how back-heavy they are.

You got the panels folded all the way? When you push in the middle panel make sure you pop the other parts the other way so it actually folds up.

If you don't, Skids's windshield goes straight into his ass. Their windshields should be facing straight down.

I'm sorry. I'm not happy with the twins.




Just sayin'.

Would you like pictures?

Here's what I have

Skids is right. Mudflaps two panels can go straight flat like Skids's.

I got Mudflap fixed, but the problem I'm having now is that Skids' knee joints are too loose.

Same here :( There's only one pose I can get him in. Lean him forward til his knees lock and then bend his torso back. it looks suitably aggressive, so I'm not one to complain.

I guess that's as good as he's gonna get. You should get Sideswipe, he's pretty cool, mang.

Really wish the Human Alliance Skids came with Tutorro instead of Mika...Mike....da skank. Seeing as she was NEVER IN SKIDS, EVER.

I'm not a super fan of the pieces coming off Mudflap's chest, they bend up at an angle in the movie. But, they are on the icecream truck version, too, so hey, kudos for consistancy.

Not sure if I'm getting Rampage, anymore. Know I'm getting the Icecream truck, that's about it, for now.

Rampage, Mixmaster and Demolisher are still in the boxes in the corner of my room. Not sure when I'll open them.

I have a gut feeling we aren't getting the others, besides in that legends class Devy.

Still fascinated that Hightower is a spider in that one. If it wasn't for the kid's book Ktulu (hot)linked (grrrr) it'd be perfectly fine since we never see him in robot mode other than in that book.

Was that Scrapper throwing the claw when they were running through the buildings? Or was that Yellow Rampage? Don't even remember what 'the little one' looked like in robot mode on the ocean floor before he got disassembled.

I started on my custom painted Prime.

Was that Scrapper throwing the claw when they were running through the buildings? Or was that Yellow Rampage? Don't even remember what 'the little one' looked like in robot mode on the ocean floor before he got disassembled.

Thought it was Scrapper, but it really isn't made clear.

What did you guys think of constructicons walking around fighting the humans while...Devastator was currently formed elsewhere? People are defending it by saying "HAHA IT IS NOT LIKE TRANSFORMERS NEVER HAD CLONES BEFORE" - in essence comparing it to the G1 cartoon and such. They also say no one questions multiple storm troopers in Star Wars.

I say - first of all, G1 was a low budget cartoon made as quickly as possible. This is a huge budget motion picture. They could've at least made sure everything made sense.

Secondly, if there were more than one Long Haul, more than one Mixmaster, etc, when they were first introduced reviving Megatron - then I'd say the storm trooper analogy works. However, no, the film introduces them as unique characters. When we see some of the same vehicles later forming Devastator when the robots those vehicles formed are walking around elsewhere - it is indeed a potentially confusing moment.

I also say you shouldn't have to justify things after the fact, it all should all make sense on screen.

Ah well though, no big deal I guess. They were just put there to get shot at anyway :(

Yes, I read the thread you linked about that on TFW. As Dave said, it actually made the combining Devy toy screen accurate. Those particular ones were never shown in robot mode.

GOOD EDITING BAY!

Is what they said cheekily. I agree that it's confusing, but at least the screen accuracy argument is somewhat of an explaination, if not a satisfying one =/

I just question if they were really intended to come across as...vehicles the same as other character's vehicle modes - that only turn into the one big robot. I can imagine the film makers just hoping no one would have any questions about it :o

I think the worst thing is that he didn't get to do much of anything! It's too bad only two Autobots fought him.

Yeah, why didn't Jolt and Sideswipe join in. That would have been an easy way to give them screentime/personality.

I'm harping, but it bugs me on principle. I'd like to think you fight combiners with combiners, and while the twins get away on a technicality.....

yeah :(

I tried getting a good shot of the Arcee bikes today.

Interesting run down of the movie's plot:

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php

lol@slutbot

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/8875-tf2

I enjoyed The Nostalgia Critic's take as well. Sort of reminded me of a hyped up, condensed version of that hour long UK video review, being very very excited about something you mainly only have problems with :D

This is how we brought the pain in MY day!

The big argument for "why didn't they use Sam's allspark shard to revive Optimus" is "cos they had to use it to revive Jetfire!!!" pretty much across the board.

It's a good thing they did that too, seeing as meeting Jetfire lead them towards their "find the matrix....to save Optimus!" mission.

Oh ROTF script, you are iron clad

The only major problem I'm having with the movie is that it needs more Arcee.

The only major problem I'm having with the movie is that it needs more Ultra Magnus.:creepy:

The only major problem I'm having with the movie is that it needs more Arcee.

Bay apparently "hates" Arcee, thus the minimal use and death (of two of them anyway)

I loved how Lennox called them "Arcee twins", you know, three robots, twins

My girlfriend paid special attention to that because she's a twin. As far as killing them off, I think there's room to bring them back, it looks like it can be written as a big injury. But I know Bay hates them. Meh!

Director: Megan Fox "Says Some Very Ridiculous Things"
THURSDAY JULY 2, 2009

Megan Fox slammed Transformers director Michael Bay for focusing more on special effects than acting, but he doesn't mind.

"Well, that's Megan Fox for you," Bay tell the Wall Street Journal. "She says some very ridiculous things because she's 23 years old and she still has a lot of growing to do.

"You roll your eyes when you see statements like that and think, 'Okay Megan, you can do whatever you want. I got it,'" he goes on.

Fox told Entertainment Weekly: "I mean, I can't s--- on this movie because it did give me a career and open all these doors for me. But I don't want to blow smoke up people's a--. People are well aware that this is not a movie about acting."

Bay says he "100 percent disagrees" with Fox.

"Nick Cage wasn't a big actor when I cast him, nor was Ben Affleck. before I put him in Armageddon. Shia LaBeouf wasn't a big movie star before he did Transformers -- and then he exploded. Not to mention Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, from Bad Boys," he points out.

Bay thinks Fox could be a little more grateful, though.

"Nobody in the world knew about Megan Fox until I found her and put her in Transformers," he says. "I like to think that I've had some luck in building actors' careers with my films."

Holy shit Bay is the most arrogant person alive. I guess he forgot Nicolas Cage and Ben Affleck won fucking OSCARS before either of them worked with him :o I also guess he'd never heard of these minor little tv shows called "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" and "Martin" either.

Even Shia LaBeouf had been in some blockbusters before Transformers, though he wasn't playing a leading role. Did he do Disturbia before Transformers? That was really big.

It makes me sad that people like Bay are so rich and successful when there are so many talented people struggling to break into that business. :(

It also really sucks that people read comments like that and think Bay is some badass! Some of the TF forums have people that just fucking praise him like crazy now. I don't know what the hell happened.

I hope one of those four actors Bay completely fucking used just to build himself up bitchslaps him for that shit

Disturbia was technically before, but still released the same year as Transformers. But let's not forget that pre-Bay:

Shia was in Disney's Even Stevens show and won an Emmy while on it. SUCCESS.
Shia was in Holes. SUCCESS.

He was also in The Greatest Game Ever Played, I Robot, Constantine, the second Charlie's Angles, etc. I think he was well on his way. I'm sure Bay would love to take credit for him though - even though Spielberg is the reason he's in the TF movies

this kind of shit is exactly why I refuse to watch this bullshit movie.

Shame on Ben and Matty for making Battle of Shaker Heights.

SHAME.

I'm all for people having different tastes and all but some of the ways people are defending the movie and being soooo nasty to anyone that can see any of the glaring flaws (or stepping up to point out Bay is being a self-important prick with comments like those above) is driving me up the wall :(

Someone actually told me it BROKE THEIR HEART that I didn't just completely praise ROTF on my video review. Why the fuck does it matter? If you don't do backflips and say it's the greatest thing ever, YOU BE HATIN

Fuck those fuckers. I'll watch your review as soon as I can. I'm sure it's just as swoony as the first one :)

tell them you'll break their face too if they don't stfu

This sounds like a plan, even if TK is being sarcastic.

Go Jay and Silent Bob on their ass.

Neg, my review was basically just running down some of the BS plot points and things, but as I've learned from others, plot doesn't matter, this is a toy commercial and it has shit exploding and stuff, and since the super low budget G1 cartoons that were written by tons of different people and animated by three different studios all at once as quickly as possible had some flaws - any faults in this huge budget movie by one team of dedicated people all working together on one "vision" don't matter either - especially since they're actually done on purpose as an homage!!!

The power of fanboyism.

It is horrifying.

The crazy thing is I'm one of the biggest TF fanboys out there :(

I don't want everyone to hate the movie at all, if people can totally love it, fine, but all I'm asking is they not be fucking blind to it's issues and act like anyone that points any of them out or feels as if they take away from the film as a coherent story is just being some impossible-to-please moron.

Saw the 2nd TF.
Not as good as the 1st.

Loved your review, homie <3333

You discussed a lot of plot holes I hadn't even bothered to think about.

GROW THE LIST A MILE LONG.

Peaugh found a better way to combine Jetfire and Prime, even lets Jetfire form the feet. One of my main issues with the combination is that it's just a backpack and belt. This way is a little more involved, feels more complete.

Think the "backpack" looks like a clusterfuck, but hey

Jetfire underoos~

feasibly entertaining

I can roll with that, Vangelus. I will use hyperbole in every comment I make about the twins from now on :D

I listened to the WTF@TFW podcast, haven't watched his video. Only thing I don't like about Vangelus' outlook is that he's kind of an apologist for the "it's just a toy commercial" sort of opinion :( No big though

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/items-sale-trade/227587-sealed-g2-titanium-universe-machine-wars-07-movie-otfcc-g1-reissues-grabs-2.html#post3844365

I hope someone is nutso enough to do this :( My money situation is absolutely insane right now, I'm getting it in all holes

If only we could have gotten a Season 4. The Silent Hill episode would have FUCKING ROCKED

ALL YOUR FACE BELONG TO ME

Maybe it's because Jetfire is a bot folded up on the bottom of a jet and I have the first movie's prime and what amounted to a jetpack and a gun let Prime take down the biggest baddie in two seconds, but, I dunno,

Prime/Jetfire combination just doesn't excite me in the slightest :(

Same here. Overkill face-hater Prime is good for lulz though. I have a certain piece of art I want to do related to his new murderous, face prejudiced ways. If only I wasn't a lazy ass :(

GIVE ME YOUR FACE

You know, on the whole "only a Prime can kill The Fallen" matter, aside from the point about a bunch of other Primes not being able to do so in the past, I also wonder why parts from a non-Prime would even do anything to help the cause at all. Doesn't that seem a bit sketchy?

Michael Bay is Goofus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdNv1Fo6skw&feature=channel_page

Optimus did David Letterman's top 10. Some joyless fans are fixated on David being "mean to Optimus" and whatnot but that's his schtick.

It does seem sketchy. I would have rather had Jetfire use the TONS of jets around (military clearance, blah, blah, blah) to form Superion. Having Jetfire be the leader would have been a perfectly fine rewriting of the mythology, to me.

I'm guessing Breakaway got cut from the movie, as non-movie characters usually aren't released in the first wave of toys (obviously besides the scouts)?

I wonder how bay would feel if he really understood how much of this was owed to Japanese children's cartoons

Yes or No?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Optimus-Prime-Hasbro-Masterpiece-loose-Figure_W0QQitemZ250460502175QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a509bf89f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I'm not sure I'd do the BIN, but - what are the others on there going for?

They mostly are all MP1s and MP4s going for about $250 and up. Mostly.

Well it's a really good toy - if you can justify the money, go for it

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-Masterpiece-Optimus-Prime-20th-Anniversary_W0QQitemZ290330354088QQcmdZViewItemQQp tZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439909a1a8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Are you against this one cos the blue gun?

Because of the blue gun, no chrome painted pieces, flat blue eyes, lack of detail, etc.

Well damn.

lawl :D

Where's MP Roddy :mad:

I hope for a MP Galvatron

mp galvatron seems pretty unlikely. they've still got lots of much more popular G1 characters they could do.

which unfortunately goes for roddy too. =/

You'd be surprised how much both of them come up in the "which MP do you want next..." threads that pop up on TF boards every few weeks!

I can imagine them wanting to make the next one repaintable though. Since Grimlock really isn't (unless they try to pass him off as Trypticon or something lame like that), they'll probably want another like Starscream they can shit out different characters from to save a little money. Maybe one of the original Autobot cars, I guess. Certainly not a sure thing though.

Seems we should hear soon. The first "rumor" of Grimlock being the next one came a good while ago.

Kinda wondering how Roddy would work w/o a trailer. Guess he wouldn't. So he would take a lot to produce and wouldn't be repaintable.

Lol, Menasor.

I'll take a MP Jazz, yo.

Just thinking, I know Blaster and Soundwave are popular in Japan, and those could be turned into Twincast and Soundblaster - though I know they wouldn't be marketable in the US. Hasbro seems afraid to push the boundaries of planes/cars too much for any larger toys, especially when it means stretching things to fit in old characters with dated alt modes. That's why that deluxe sized Cosmos wasn't made, they didn't think a UFO could sell.

I hope when they start fooling around with "Universe 3.0" they'll start taking more risks, no more of this "Galvatron has to be a deluxe because voyager class and ultra class already have tanks!!!" kind of crap.

I just want a decent Roddy, and I guess the Protector set is going to be the best we'll get.

Oh yeah, never did buy the Titanium...

Like you need it to be the Space Winnebego alt mode? I prefer the standard Hot Rod car really.

I love that Space Winnebago. The car is HotRod, the winny is Rodimus.

To me. Since you're gonna whip out some continuity where he's Rodimus as a car (The name game stuff on the toys doesn't count).

HAVE AT THEE!

Was just hard to tell if you meant Hot Rod or Rodimus Prime from "Roddy"

Yeah, I tend to do that :(

It's so I can cheat and clump them together.

I'm surprised Henkei Rodimus isn't pink since that line is so goofy about show accuracy.

Haha, Easter Cyclonus.

They pushed Galvatron/Cyclonus waaaay too bright. I'm not a Henkei freak though, it requires a certain anti-Hasbro sentiment I just don't have. Some of them look better, sure, but most are marginal. I was happy buying the Hasbro ones cheap rather than paying 15-20 more for one different color here or there.



RODIMUS LEGO



RODIMUS UPS




RODIMUS FIGUEROA

I demand Ruuhlbaar repaint into UPS Rodimus.

o_O

drool...

immense levels of asskicking.

I hate it

Have you seen Jolt?

Panel arms are for fast action battlers, mang :mad:

Jolt's main ugliness to me...those clunky legs. They look so random.

I hate it

gotta admit it's impressive that somebody made that shit though.

gotta admit it's impressive that somebody made that shit though.

I'm not impressed, sorry.

I think I'm not finding it impressive because I've seen similar ones before.

Also if the waist/thighs were actually part of motormaster it'd be better.

And the arm is too thin.

I dunno, I'm just not feeling it. I was never big on the character.

EDIT

Also he's smiling. :( That makes me feel bad for not liking it. It's like he just wants to be loved.

Optibotimus has got his girlfriend reviewing the BK toys, just to prove he has a girlfriend, I guess.

She said "Oh this is the thing that was in the desert, made of all the farm equipment."

Then, she put Longhaul on him AS HIS ARM :mad: :mad: :mad:

OMG OMG gets worse. "This looks like crap because I know one was yellow and one was green and one was red"

THE RED RAMPAGE WASN'T PART OF DEVY. THERE WERE 3 YELLOW ONES ON HIM. THE TOY IS SHIT, YES, BUT IT IS ACCURATE.

lol. Nerd rage. And yes, that last part, is Bay's fault.

I'd guess it's his attempt to copy the guest reviews by Peaugh's daughter or something

I don't watch any toy videos except for Vangelus at the moment, I'm very much over the whole thing. There are some other entertaining people doing it, but at the end of the day it's still "look at me talk about a piece of plastic for a long time" more often than not :( Even when video reviews first started becoming more common and many people on the established forums were arguing that forum discussion for this stuff was a little more productive and a lot less silly, I agreed with that, and I still do. You have one thread for one toy and everyone gets to contribute their own pictures and reviews and it's a real discussion, not a bunch of guys trying to get their own spotlight. I feel weird having been part of it at all. I was bored, figured I could contribute, but now I'm beyond caring. I'll be focused on other things now.

I enjoy the personalities of the people I subscribe to, simple as that.

To each their own.

I guess that could've come across as me looking down on people that do them and that's not really the case, like I said, there are some entertaining people doing it, but I'm just bored of the whole thing. I don't really want to watch 30 different guys talk about ROTF Ravage for 10 minutes.

Maybe that's a big contributor though, for the most part those toys are all anyone is talking about, and I don't really have much interest.

And that's fine. You do what makes you happy. I've said that before, and I'll always mean it.

get a room

Guy has been talking with me about my lot-sale but he won't pull the trigger, he just keeps asking more questions and takes forever to fucking answer back :mad:

All the slammin shorties in the house say YEAH

YEAH

Neg your "why did Animated have to die for the movie" hate may be relieved a bit if you look at what Cartoon Network has been up to. They're starting this whole campaign of live action, reality shows for tweens and shit, and there's some stuff circulating that they may even be dropping "Cartoon" from the name. Remains to be seen. Still, Animated's lead designer has had a lot to say against it. I'm wondering if *that* could've contributed to Animated's cancellation at all. We know the guys working on the show wanted to keep going. We know the toys weren't a failure, especially since they're gonna bother releasing the rest of the "new" molds anyway. So...I think there had to have been at least some influence directly from CN. They cancel shit all the time anyway and then just keep it going in reruns.

07 Longarm is getting the Hoist repaint most figured would happen:



No bot mode yet, hopefully it's good - seeing as this may be as close as we get to a "Classics" Hoist :o

I got the "Animated had to die for this," from you. JFTR :p

Oh, Cartoon Network~

Well, that is, I twisted a rational statement you made into a mantra of my own design :erm:

I just mentioned it because I've seen you bring it up a few times! Figured I'd add that extra little possibility. I think on some level CN's weird tween-reality show shift has at least something to do with it.

My word. Stop Motion Jr, one of Sean Long's lackeys, was a Botcon attendee - and today decided it was a good idea to post video he filmed during the Hasbro design panels (video of the panel was explicitly stated as off limits) - simply because he was apparently tired of people not believing him about a Leader Starscream coming out.

When people pointed out to him that Hasbro said NO FILMING, NO PICTURES for a reason and that this leak could potentially damage how willing Hasbro is to divulge advanced information and pictures like that at future conventions, not to mention how much it diminishes the experience for attendees that paid high prices to get the privlege to see that stuff early, he just freaked out and said they were "obsessing over fucking toys" and all this other stuff. Fucking hypocrite. The video was up just to stroke his own ego that he knows for a fact some toy is coming out. How god damn ridiculous is that? All he had to do was link to the various news sites that covered Botcon if he had people that didn't believe him, but no. He had to have the glory. The scoop. Had to be right...about a fucking toy. Doing this shit was just stupid.

I convinced him to take the video down, even though I only said what everyone else with any fucking sense had said (but he didn't know who they were and thus had no "respect" for their opinions, he told me, fuck) - but it was too little too late, as it was up in time for people to copy it and such. It's already been trolled on TFW from 4chan users.

It's probably freaking over nothing, but seriously, this was a huge fuck up and Hasbro could potentially be very pissed.

Previews for AHM #13, the return of Simon Furman and Don Figueroa, are out - and it's actually a bit worrying in a way





So. Our G1 bots are starting to get the skeletal, thousand-part plate filled faces now.

It's fine to experiment but I and some others worry this is a sign that maybe the whole franchise might shift into a movie-injected aesthetic. It's not even my personal distaste for the look of the movie bots...it's just that I don't want the whole feel of the brand to change just because one part of it has more exposure. It'd be like when the X-Men comics suddenly had everyone in black leather after the first X-Men film came out. Almost alienating, as if the thinking is "the mainstream way or no way."

It's probably going too far to assume this is some telling shift for the franchise at large, but it still makes you wonder if that might be happening.

I know a lot of people rag on the "liquid metal faces" but...it just looks so much nicer to me than whatever the hell is going on here. It may be more logical that they have all sorts of different plates in their faces, but it just appears cluttered and makes them look like any old cold, random robot. One of the main attributes of the Transformers franchise, and one of the main charms as far as I'm concerned, is that the robots are identifiable, with personalities akin to that of humans. I think the smoother, simpler faces teeter more towards the human-like side of the spectrum and serve as a better physical mirror of the personalities, and yes, I think it has been done convincingly without going too far ala teeth and tongues. This high-tech, almost skeletal look loses a bit of that charm and serves as a slight disconnect from their...perceived human-like nature, I think.

A post from Nato Bot at TFW hit it well, I think:


I just got my issue in the mail today. I agree that Don's work is awesome. I like what he's done with their bodies, just not the faces. I've been trying some similar things with my own work. I just keep coming back to the more emotive nature of the "liquid metal" approach (which I've never seen as liquid metal but as some sort of combination of metallic cells bonded with a softer cellular bond to make a flexible, yet durable metal-like "skin". If you think of TFs as living biological organisms with cells like every other living thing we know of [just metallic ones], then it makes sense).

I think that it might have worked for the movie, but in a comic book all the extra lines just make the faces look too busy and cluttered, not to mention skeletal. Which (as was stated before) is cool for bad guys like Bludgeon, but not good for the good guys. Especially if you want a human reader to identify emotionally with the characters. Judge for yourself:




That image really drives the point home.

Yeah, I agree. Glad I stopped reading AHM. And bringing Furman back on this late in the game is hardly going to save it, though I'm sure the writing will be better for the last couple issues.

I've heard the last half of the issue with Starscream has the "regular" faces or something...just, what? Talk about consistency :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AcazI7_mtg#t=2m54s This...is the most hilarious cut in a TF video review ever. I absolutely love how he completely gave up. I laughed my ass off. Mean, perhaps, but it gave me immense joy.

wat uuuuup Wheeljack fans





...and the painting on this is insane:

Hasbro Prototype hi-rez always look way better than production.
Then you get your toy and it's a world of difference.
No way these paint operations are going to look like that in production.

You don't have to tell us that, but all the same, that's a fan-customized toy anyway

Although, with TFs the products usually match the prototypes fairly well barring some color differences here and there - the only thing is they usually photoshop the pictures to have a more metallic sheen than the toys really have.

You don't have to tell us that, but all the same, that's a fan-customized toy anyway

Although, with TFs the products usually match the prototypes fairly well barring some color differences here and there - the only thing is they usually photoshop the pictures to have a more metallic sheen than the toys really have.

Yeah TF are better in production than other lines.
Hasbro New Ventures is notorious.
I didn't know that was a fan paint job modified.
Hasbro tries to control their spin lately releasing high res of their product last few years.
I have a a good friend of mine named Brian who has his own company now and does work for Hasbro and worked for them for years.
He worked on the first movie line, don;t know how much of the new stuff he's working on.
Mostly he's on the Galactic Heroes, that Star Wars line of deformed kid's figures.
So, if you thought the first movie line was shit, it's Brian you have to blame.
Anyways, nice chatting with y'all.
Later.
~R

Haha. The first movie line had some non-movie toys I actually liked, mostly characters from the game I think, with fairly solid robot modes. This time it's not really like that, every robot is fucking weird as hell.

I like Galactic Heroes and such, only problem is the paint is inconsistent, you have to fish through the pegs for a good sample.

TJOmega went to the Phoenix Wright panel at Metrocon, but then said "yeah, pretty boring" and cut to something else.

Man, I would have stayed every moment even if it was boring. I'd also have probably asked one of the cosplayers out, because that's how I roll.

I only remembered vaguely that StopMotion was a Longdrone. What a moron :rolleyes:

wutz upppp transfrmers fanzzzzzzzzzz

I wish I could paint toys. :(

Me too. The guys that are good at it make a killing on eBay.

practice makes perfect!

Oh you. I'm no photographer but I liked the lighting there too much not to snap a picture :D

On the customizing, the main thing that makes it seem so hard to me is that you have to take the toys completely apart and sand all the parts down to make sure they won't rub together and ruin the new coats of paint. It's a huge process, expensive too. The guys that pull it off are seriously talented. I don't know that I'd have the patience to get into all of that.

Haha. The first movie line had some non-movie toys I actually liked, mostly characters from the game I think, with fairly solid robot modes. This time it's not really like that, every robot is fucking weird as hell.

I like Galactic Heroes and such, only problem is the paint is inconsistent, you have to fish through the pegs for a good sample.
*
Oh you. I'm no photographer but I liked the lighting there too much not to snap a picture

On the customizing, the main thing that makes it seem so hard to me is that you have to take the toys completely apart and sand all the parts down to make sure they won't rub together and ruin the new coats of paint. It's a huge process, expensive too. The guys that pull it off are seriously talented. I don't know that I'd have the patience to get into all of that.


Hey Ktulu.
Not to offend anyone's sensibilities about the movie designs, but Brian didn't like that project much and said that the concepts for them were junk.
But those were the designs that got handed down to them to make.
He's also worked a lot on Nerf, Action Fleet Play Sets and ships and how he got hooked up with Hasbro was when they absorbed Galoob. The stuff he's worked on recently with Galactic Heroes had to do with ships and vehicles, accessory type stuff I think. The little speeder bikes for instance.
I haven't picked any of those up, I spend enough money on other things, such as the 3 & 3/4 line.

I've done a fair amount of customizing in my day, it's really not all that hard.
There's sites out there dedicated to it. You start by boiling water and throwing in your figure so you can pop the joints without breaking it.
I'm not the best painter out there when it comes to tiny details myself.
My hand gets a little shaky with that tiny brush.
But if I get a figure and I am unhappy with the paint, I sometimes give it a try. I don't have a digital camera or scanner at the moment, so no pics.
Damn the cost!
Yeah plastic ain't as cheap as it used to be for sure....
Later,
~Rick

You know, you can put the '~Rick' in your sig. That way you don't have to type it all the time.

lol
Thanks for the suggestion.
It rolls off the fingers easily..
~r

or even dont bother writing it at all because it says who is posting right on the left

<---- there

Hey Ktulu.
Not to offend anyone's sensibilities about the movie designs, but Brian didn't like that project much and said that the concepts for them were junk.


Nah I don't like the movie designs too much. Like I said, most of my favorite toys from it weren't even from the movie, just the games, and in a lot of cases those designs had a few more elements from standard TFs, especially with the faces.

Ktulu, would you like to join the Master Race?

What the fuck did you just say to me

Get in chat, goober.

Optibotimus has his comments on approve.

Curses, he knows I always post "lol, neckbeard."

Heh

He had a little Twitter freakout today about people on message boards being JERKS.


# got a warning from allspark cus their members r cockheads. k so then l8r...im told that posting r vids on their site is basically "spamming"
about 7 hours ago from web

# seriously...the allspark forum is the most annoying and most asshole filled forum in the transformers community...get off your high horses
about 7 hours ago from web

Wanna know what inspired it?

http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=60843

Solid, constructive criticism there. Anytime anyone ever says anything like that, or even simply corrects a little mistake, he takes it so fucking badly - and trudges up the WELL I HAVE X AMOUNT OF SUBSCRIBERS, I'M THE SHIT argument. Brought it up on his tweetybird page today too.

...sigh, and I have to make some commercial for his show :(

Internet speak...ugh. It just keeps getting worse.

He must be stopped.

...sigh, and I have to make some commercial for his show :(

what

He has some live internet radio show where he basically reads TFW's news, as if no one can actually get it anywhere else, and complains about whatever, and I guess pimps the latest video reviews and what not. This show, despite being about Transformers, is named after it's host. Lulz.

I don't know how to turn people down for shit a lot of the time and he asked me if I could do some goofy commercial for it and I agreed :( I feel obligated to but I keep putting it off so it's this really...shitty scenario.

you should practice turning people down for shit!

He practices on me everytime he doesn't come into chat.

Bah!

First semi-decent picture of leader class movie-Scream


Proportions look more accurate than the voyager. I see a lot more detail overall too. I'm still not into the design though :(

A picture of the Classics style Bludgeon's vehicle mode showed up too, but nothing exciting, and it seems to just be a test shot. Just a tank. Not worth posting till we see the robot mode.

Also saw a robot mode picture of movie Hoist that wasn't worth a damn. Hasbro had him in a crappy pose...and mistransformed.

I just invented a new drinking game. Everytime he says "just like so" or "rotate 180 degrees", you take a swig of your drink. :)

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/revenge-of-the-fallen-human-alliance-sideswipe-video-review-168197/


Also, I can't wait to see that leader Starscream in alt mode.

Where my Human Alliance Skids, bitches?

He's just as competent as his older contemporaries. Think of that what you will.

I just invented a new drinking game. Everytime he says "just like so" or "rotate 180 degrees", you take a swig of your drink. :)

You could probably swap the audio from most toy reviews out there and never tell the difference.

Holy...perfect replica of MP Convoy/Optimus...at roughly voyager scale!

...only problem is it's not by Hasbro/Takara, so buying one when they're released will probably be as expensive as the large one :(

I'd love to have one based off the MP Grimlock picture alone. Their comparative heights are much better there.

My G2 Cyberjets are on eBay...auction ending in an hour or so and the bid is only at 5 dollars. It's been up a whole week.

What the fuck? What makes these so undesirable? I must have really gotten swindled when I paid 100 bucks for em

EDIT - Sorry for the triple post, wtffffff am I thinking?

Anyway, because it's fun, here's TFW's pictures of the Hasbro SDCC Panel:

WHOLE MESS O ROTF SHIET



Meh, not really what I was hoping for. Sure, it's the G1 samurai but the gangly, shard-o-bot movie look is more prevalent than most would've lead us to believe, I think. Plus, the head looks huge.



Animated...movie Lockdown, again from Botcon. Doesn't look bad sans mistransformation. Head resembles Nite-Owl from Watchmen...for some reason.



Much more movie accurate than the original voyager, but I don't like it as much. Again, if you forgot, the weapons of this guy and Lockdown are interchangeable, just like their Animated counterparts.



Movie "g1" Dirge. No thanks. Almost looks like Energon "Sharkticon" though.



Clearly based off of the Cybertron version.



Shares it's namesake with the leader of the Decepticon micromasters in G1. Nothing else in common really.



Head is sort of like G1 Mindwipe, sort of, but again, not much else in common. I guess the alt mode is evocative of a bat...maybe.
Combines with Skystalker apparently.



His shoulders hurt. But...not as much as his tiny, tiny little feet and ankles.



Hard to tell, but of all the "G1" ROTF toys this could be the closest to the old character.



Rambo Ironhide will kill you until you're dead.



Hi, you have to read novels and comic books to know what happened to me.



SUP WIGGA

They also showed some Legends class figures I think, but I really have no interest.

Ok...New pictures of the Animated stuff we heard about before



Definitely miss the actual Wasp head here, but ah well



Pretty weird. Doesn't seem to actually be the design from the show. Not sure about this one yet.



Sold.



Sold again.



Sold hardest. Best of the show for me. Again, armor also works with the standard voyager release.

So, that's about it. Tons of ROTF toys, some of the Animated stuff. Looks like they're trying to keep G1 fans happy with the new ROTF toys but you know, I'd still like if some of those characters were just given a proper "Classics" treatment instead. Speaking of - the panel mentioned no immediate plans to return to Classics, citing that the movie is all they're going to be focused on for the foreseeable future. That contradicts Botcon a little - hopefully what was originally stated is true instead.

Other tidbits:

Again, big no to Animated Omega Supreme. Apparently no more Animated toys planned beyond what we've now seen. Boo. Makes sense, but boo all the same. I hope someday if a Universe/Classics line does pop up they can find room for a few more of the toyless characters. Remember - Botcon mentioned that was possible. Contradictions again :(

The white Soundwave from Animated (original toy form) may be done as an Activator repaint.

Animated is going to be shown in reruns on the new Hasbro/Discovery network. (Explain why there's no new episodes again?!)

The third ROTF Arcee bike (to be named Flareup or Moonracer) is not going to have any instructions for the combined mode, and it won't be considered official at all. What the hell? Since it was cut from the movie...I wonder if this is meddling from Bay or the studio.

ROTF Devastator (the 100 dollar rip-you-the-fuck-off one) may indeed get a G1 redeco. Blegh.

The Masterpiece Skywarp will have the same remolded face the Takara one did (So, you know, not a direct Starscream clone)

Blah blah blah. Besides the new glimpses of the remaining Animated line, nothing too amazing unless you really love ROTF toys, I guess.

I saw Sean's review of Devy. It really is bullshit. The transformation is underwhelming, even if I can't justify calling it Fisher-Price.

Hmmm, now, do I buy Human Alliance Mudflap because he comes with Simmons (lol, look at his giant crotch), or just buy both because I really prefer Skids and Simmons was actually in Skids?

Bottom line question: Do I make the twins this movie's Jazz.

Hmmmm.

Oh, and passing on Waspy. I needed the head resculpt.

I saw Sean's review of Devy. It really is bullshit. The transformation is underwhelming, even if I can't justify calling it Fisher-Price.

Hmmm, now, do I buy Human Alliance Mudflap because he comes with Simmons (lol, look at his giant crotch), or just buy both because I really prefer Skids and Simmons was actually in Skids?

Bottom line question: Do I make the twins this movie's Jazz.

Hmmmm.

Oh, and passing on Waspy. I needed the head resculpt.

You think that's underwelming? I just picked up leader Jetfire and when he says "Jetfire's my name", he sounds like Shrek casually introducing himself at a coffee shop as Jetfire. I wish I could take it apart and replace it with "My father, why, he was a wheel! The FIRST wheel! Do you know what he transformed into? Nothing! But he did so with honor. Dignity, dammit!"

How do you remember that much dialogue from the movie?

-_-

Smile ^_^

Amazingly, that Bludgeon actually does look like Bludgeon.

so blackout shoots giant rings?

More art popped up from a new TF comic series where it seems Don is going to continue with the new faces



He had this to say to the overall reaction:


There have been alot of worried comments about my "new" art style and I understand the concern.

as you know, I've been doing this for a long time now, over 5 years in fact. and I'm sure some of you are tired of seeing the same thing over and over from me. I know I am.

as an artist, I like to experiment. I gauge what people like and I try to bend where the wind blows. and recently, I see more and more from the fandom that "Geewun suxxors"

and the thing is, I don't consider IDW's take as "G1". the stories are not a continuation of the ones from the 80's cartoon or the Marvel stuff. they didn't crash on earth 4 millions years ago and get lodged in a volcano, it doesn't even fit into Beast wars.

sure it's got the same names and elements from G1, but that can also be said with every other series that came and went since G1.

Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, the Movie.. All have elements of G1 in them, all have an Optimus who's a red truck and there's a Yellow car that younger people can relate to. references to Matrixes, Unicrons..etc, but they're not G1.

so please, calm down everybody. I'm just complimenting the new stories with a new look.

-Don Fig
working on Transformers, where things change...

I admire the guy and I think he's a great artist but some (not all) of the reasoning there is a little iffy for me. I posted this:


Like I said the first time it popped up, the new faces just make me think of when the X-Men turned up wearing all black leather in the comics once that big movie came out. A huge change just to accommodate what more people might recognize. The mainstream way or no way. Screw the fans of old. It's just alienating, and dismissive of what came before - as if it's not good enough. So some fans think "geewun suxxors"...big deal, it doesn't mean everyone feels that way.

Also, I'm fine with experimenting, and I understand the need for artists to grow, but I really question how far the experimentation really went when it just happened to land on a look that is more reminiscent of the most widely known aesthetic than anything else. Funny how that turned out. Sure, it's not the movie style to the T, but it's pretty clear that's the primary inspiration. You wanna experiment - land on something different (Animated for example) - don't just use that as an excuse when you're pushing the mainstream look. But oh well, I'm thankful that at least the bodies aren't monochromatic junk piles with 15 toes per foot.

I'm fine with change. I just don't want everything in the whole franchise to suddenly shift to accommodate the movie style just because it's what more people know. I understand it makes sense in terms of marketing and even perhaps brand unity, but it still doesn't sit well with me.

And you know - if we're going to use "it's not G1" as an argument for why the standard (GEEEEEEWUNOHNO) TF faces shouldn't stay, well guess what, it's not the movie either.

I'M SUCH A GEEWUNNER :(

Yeah, I'm pretty pissed. Everything I like in comics always gets buttfucked one way or another.

I think it is a good idea to try new things artistically but I also think it's a bad idea to try new things that are FUCKING UGLY.

I thought you didn't like G1 anymore.

I don't like G1 toys, and I'm not especially huge on it in general though of course I'll always dig the cartoon since I loved it as a kid. But that's not really the point. It has nothing to do with G1. The faces on this new style are just freaking ugly.

http://www.buycostumes.com/Transformers-Optimus-Prime-Super-Deluxe-Adult-Costume/61103/ProductDetail.aspx

...well at least the helmet is decent

haha. This should be a new smiley!

<img src=http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/alabasterperapets/optimuscostume.jpg>

haha. This should be a new smiley!

<img src=http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b359/alabasterperapets/optimuscostume.jpg>

Is Popeye modeling that costume? o.O

I've never watched transformers, aside from like a few 80s episodes I liked when I was a kid.

Is the franchise worth getting into for a new person, or is it not the same without the nostalgia added?
I'm a huge fan of animated programmes, so if someone could direct me into that direction if it is worth it, I'd appreciate it~

There's so many different versions, there may be one that suits you, who knows. I don't really make much of suggesting things to be people as a sure-fire thing though, just because I like something doesn't mean anyone else will. I don't know, it's hard to say.

I've never watched transformers, aside from like a few 80s episodes I liked when I was a kid.

Is the franchise worth getting into for a new person, or is it not the same without the nostalgia added?
I'm a huge fan of animated programmes, so if someone could direct me into that direction if it is worth it, I'd appreciate it~

The majority of fans, I think, would say that the two truly good animated series are Beast Wars and Animated. (Yes, it's called "Transformers Animated. It's the recent Cartoon Network one that's just coming to an end.)

Personally, I am not a fan of Animated because I hate the artwork, but I have watched a bit of it and the writing is definitely very good, so if you either like or even are okay with the art, it's probably worth getting into for you. Most fans I've heard from seem to agree that, although it's filled with references and such for TF fans, it is a very high quality show whether you're already familiar or not.

Beast Wars is the one I'm really really into. It's probably my favorite animated show ever, the only possible exception being Spectacular Spiderman. (Also FLCL if you count that, but that was only 6 episodes so I count it more as a movie, also watch FLCL it's the best thing ever made but has nothing to do with Transformers although there are robots in it.)

BW is 3D, so you have to be into CG stuff, but I think it's one of the more visually impressive 3D cartoons there have been. The first 2 episodes (a single pilot episode in two parts) look pretty fugly, and are not very good in general, but they were an awkward first attempt. Immediately after those, when the whole team started getting the hang of it, the writing and visuals both got stellar. I consider the first "real" episode of the show to be the 3rd one, The Web, and it's one of my favorites.

The first season is fairly hit or miss though, there are some mediocre "filler" episodes, but a lot of really great stuff too, and it sets up what becomes a truly epic plot in the second and third seasons. Halfway through season 1 is when the whole show's plot starts to really develop, and it gets exciting as hell. By season 2, every single episode develops the plot in some way and it gets truly epic. The characters are developed incredibly well and are all very believable and relatable despite being alien robots that transform into animals.

I could rave about this show all day, but basically, this is the show that turned me into a serious transformers fan. I loved G1 as a kid but I never loved anything the way I loved Beast Wars.

So I've been doing some thinking. I been kinda down at the fact that Michael Bay didn't like the Arcee "twins" triplets (I really wanted to see more of them, I thought they were awesome). Then there was not using the original Soundwave voice for his stupid, "I can't understand him" reason. Now I've had time since yesterday to think about his comment about how he "hates (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/michael-bay-comments-on-the-dinobots---i-hate-them-168241/)" the dinobots. As much as I really enjoy Transformers and Transformers RotF, even with it's GIANT plot holes and such, I now really wished they did not pick him to direct the movies. I'm now seeing the light that is telling me he really does not give a fuck about transformers. Don't get me wrong, like I said, I really like both movies even with it's faults, I just really wished Jon Favreau directed Transformers. I feel like he would have done a hell of a job making a Transformers popcorn flick while showing more love to the fans and having a story that makes better sense.


Just sayin'. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Welcome to 2007 :-*

I'm not saying I was never upset or disappointed in it being Michael Bay, I'm just saying I have now went from "whatever, nothing I can do now" to "God damn it, Neg!"

I see.

he really does not give a fuck about transformers.

Geez, this was obvious from day 1. X_X

You know who I wish they'd picked?

Pretty much anybody else ever.

I could have done it better!

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Kinda want this

I could have done it better!

Yes. Yes you could have.

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