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Tom Toonami Tunes
07-11-2010, 06:35 AM
If they won't even let you return something with a resit after 90 days how'd they let that one slip by?

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-11-2010, 06:53 AM
Complete apathy and cluelessness on the employee's part. But really, many Wal-Marts are actually pretty lenient with returns. It's an easy system to cheat and people take advantage. I guess it happens with everything, but there's tons of crazy shit that goes down like that in the toy world. Poe Ghostal has a page dedicated to it, I'll try to find the link.

In the 90s I used to see Star Wars packages hanging on the shelf refilled with "The CORPS!" figures :(

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-11-2010, 06:59 AM
I've seen figure swaps but produce is ridiculous!

If I was super rich I'd figure swap in MORE valuable toys like replace a Yarna Gargan with a vinyl cape jawa and just see what happens.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-12-2010, 05:34 PM
Madness

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/27170835d1278865474-repaint-cybertr.gifhttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/27170835d1278865474-repaint-cybertr.gifhttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/27170835d1278865474-repaint-cybertr.gif

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-14-2010, 06:32 AM
The Chinese are entering the giant robot arms race with a bootleg Optimus Prime made out of scraped metal.

http://www.automotto.org/entry/chinese-transformer-is-all-about-junk-auto-parts-from-head-to-toe/

TK
07-14-2010, 06:35 AM
Funny how when you build a transformer statue out of a bunch of pieces of garbage it looks incredibly similar to the robots in the Michael Bay films....

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-16-2010, 07:17 AM


My target actually has things that's not Skipmarks or Mudbutt and they're on clearance ta boot! About $7 for deluxe, $15 for voyager, & $4 for scouts.

Tanis
07-16-2010, 07:45 AM
Um...what?

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-16-2010, 07:47 AM
Now that's what I call Rodamus Prime!

Tanis
07-16-2010, 07:50 AM
My local Walmart has a crap load of Bayformers stuff...still.
I swear they get all the crap the other stores in the area do not want.

They even have these mini-TF things that look like kid toys from BK.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-16-2010, 09:05 AM
Just came home from mah Wal Mart, TF section was nearly empty. Perhaps they're finally getting ready to roll out (oh ho ho) the new lines

spyboy
07-18-2010, 10:31 AM
Check your local Kohls, many have found the newer figs (if you don't mind the mark up price of $14.99 per fig). Last I heard they were Buy 1 get half off on the second. No idea if it's still running but if you need to quench your thirst for Transformers, go to Kohls.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-18-2010, 11:23 AM
I've gone there before, they do tend to have stuff that isn't as easy to find. The ROTF ice-cream twins were easier to find there initially. Same thing for the first "modern" Bumblebee from the first movie line, which was very rare at first. They do have some bad markups though, but there's usually weird sales that just make everything regular price. I feel weird going in there just to buy toys though, heh.

I've heard of some of the new yellow box movie-ish stuff turning up there but can't remember if anyone has found Drift or Thrust from Generations. Seems TRU is the place for those still, at least for now.

spyboy
07-18-2010, 06:41 PM
Around here I know a bunch of guys have found Thrust & Drift. One guy even said there were extras at a Kohls 5 minutes away from my house. Sadly I have to pass on it for now. Then again I don't want to pay the markup prices. I'll wait till they're widespread or if TRU gets them I'll just ask my buddy to hold and use his discount.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-18-2010, 08:24 PM
Drift/Thrust are in stock at Walmart.com today. Site to store shipping is free but it takes a few weeks. I'm tempted, but I don't know, I might see them in person before they would get here.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-19-2010, 03:07 AM


Another lovely movie character revealed!

lawl

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-19-2010, 05:37 AM
(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/4245400-original.html)

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-19-2010, 09:20 PM
Gotta love those Mudflaps! They're all the rage.

If I was rich I would jet around the country, buying up all of them to rid collectors of this plague, then hold a giant bonfire.

hay

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-20-2010, 07:44 AM
I think there was some people on 4chan who bought up all the peg warmers for GI Joe Transformers, Star Wars, & DC and dumped them off at toys for tots around chrstmast time.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-20-2010, 08:57 AM
Good idea

This is possibly movie Shockwave:


TK
07-20-2010, 08:58 AM
something good came out of an organized 4chan effort? Who knew.

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-20-2010, 09:34 PM

Missing the orb tits but almost no transformer is perfect in bot or alt mode.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-22-2010, 01:02 AM
They're called breasts, and every woman has them.



Japanese G1 was fun times

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-22-2010, 06:35 AM
They're kinda not as common on robots though.


TK
07-22-2010, 06:41 AM

Penguin
07-22-2010, 04:58 PM
orb tits


Penguin
07-22-2010, 04:58 PM
also someone add that as :decepticons: pleaseeeeeee

:autobots:

TK
07-22-2010, 06:05 PM
I'm on it!

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-23-2010, 02:31 AM
Well here are some of the "Prime" designs:












Movie-ish but not as junky. Some elements I like, some I don't. Ratchet isn't bad.

Continuity is War For Cybertron, not Bayformers, set in "modern day", same old "they're robots in disguise! how do they fit in with the Earth?!" story as always. I can see some of the WFC aesthetic in Ratchet, not sure about the others.

Here's some crazy statue of Optimus to show the basic design in better light:



He has Big O arms :o

And here's some early test animation for the show: http://media.tv.ign.com/media/080/080393/vids_1.html

Well, at least it's clear what's going on. Already beats Bayformers there.

Anyway, in things that won't be as dividing: Masterpiece Rodimus is confirmed. This is apparently an early drawing:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/20100722_e75e233bb706b999d4aePwim4EITp4PE_12797778 47.jpg

However, some think it's just the animation model reference.

In other news: When well photographed, the "G2" Botcon toys aren't really so ghastly:



TK
07-23-2010, 03:20 AM
FUCK.

There is no way I can avoid buying that. I am going to shell out so much fucking money for that stupid piece of shit. aahkasdghl;agehnl;ag;l

Sackboy
07-23-2010, 03:22 AM
Prime's arms remind me of the portal gun.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-23-2010, 03:33 AM
FUCK.

There is no way I can avoid buying that. I am going to shell out so much fucking money for that stupid piece of shit. aahkasdghl;agehnl;ag;l

I'm sure Hasbro will release it here, probably 40-60 bucks

It will apparently have both "young" and "mature" faces.

TK
07-23-2010, 04:03 AM
If I have the money when the takara version comes out there's no way I won't order it for over a hundred dollars immediately. =/

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-23-2010, 04:14 AM
I would consider it :D

A picture where Prime Prime's (lawl) head is finally almost unobscured:



Again, it's basically the movie one cleaned up.

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-23-2010, 06:20 AM
I don't like Prime's arms especially they're too bulky especially with the way his body has been slimmed down.
Why isn't Arcee red or pink?
I like the horns on Cliffjumper and the overall designs on everyone else are ok.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-23-2010, 06:24 AM
At the panel they said they wanted to avoid the "girls have to be pink" stigma. I can appreciate that decision.

It's interesting how Cliffjumper changes from a boxy old classic car into a crazy rounded/smooth robot. Curious to see that actually work out in toy form.

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-23-2010, 06:27 AM
I can respect that too.

1. Hinged panels
2. a boxy version of a crazy rounded smooth robot or a round smooth version of a boxy old classic car.

Hey wait a minute what if their whole girl things don't need to be pink thing is merely because they don't want to try and sell a pink thing to a boy!

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-23-2010, 06:34 AM
Maybe, but maybe not:



The only thing that's weird about her being blue/white is that's pretty much Chromia's color scheme. Chromia's not a major character though so I guess that didn't matter to them.

Tom Toonami Tunes
07-27-2010, 05:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h18AG_Y33CY&videos=kvrr0MOWjGo

Every TF ad should be a rap.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-27-2010, 05:58 AM
The old commercials are a good source of lulz sometimes. I like how they kept changing the theme song to fit the gimmicks in the 80s.

POWERMASTER TRANSFORMERS
THEY'VE GOT THE POWER TO SURVIVE!!!

I ordered SDCC Mighty Muggs Prowl and GEeWuUn Blaster from HTS today. I'm cool like that.

spyboy
07-27-2010, 06:12 AM
If I can pass on Soundwave, gonna pass on Blaster as well.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-27-2010, 06:17 AM
I already has a Soundwave, it'll be nice to have them both. Since the set comes with a few of the cassettes, the price isn't bad. With the promo code (comic2010) it was just 45 bucks. He's a fairly big robot too.

Penguin
07-27-2010, 09:10 AM
ktulbro i bought hubcap today

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-27-2010, 09:23 AM
Good

Do you like his little shoes

Penguin
07-27-2010, 09:45 PM
He has sonic the hedgehog feet.

Zeta
07-28-2010, 12:51 AM

Penguin
07-28-2010, 05:49 AM
Cool!

A new image XD

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-29-2010, 03:24 PM
Early work on MP Rodimus:





Final product likely to be different in various ways.

TK
07-29-2010, 04:49 PM
DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL

I hope one of the many ways is the fin on his back is a bit more subdued, it looks kinda a bit too long/skinny ish there.

This seriously is my holy grail of all toys, though. I'm not kidding. If I could have picked 1 toy and 1 toy only to make real for the rest of eternity, it would have been this. So happy!

Sackboy
07-29-2010, 07:53 PM
I'd rather have MP Hot Rod, however, I would still love to see the final product when they're finished with Rodimus.

TK
07-29-2010, 08:00 PM
Man how could you not want winebego Roddy. Best alt mode ever.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-30-2010, 06:19 AM





Tom Toonami Tunes
07-30-2010, 06:31 AM
I want a vespa transformer that fits 6 inch guys. She'd be a deceptacon, yellow, would be Soundwave's roadie so she's also come with a blue laserbeak variant and her name would be Harukon.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-30-2010, 02:10 PM
The key to WFC Bumblebee is slotting the forearms into the shoulders properly for car mode.

Blurry pictures of some of the upcoming Generations and PCC toys shown at the Sunday Botcon panel (now from "Cybertron Con" in China) are out.

Word from people that attended Botcon: These are not the same pictures and seem to have a lot of mistransformation. The nature of the pictures sucks out all the detail in the toys as well. Not the best first photos to judge by, so keep that in mind.














Experience with the Inferno that Grapple is based on shows his forearms are clearly wrong, so there's definitely evidence for the apparent mistransformation. I'm guessing Tracks' car mode (+ unfolded wings in robutt mode) and Perceptor's legs are some of the screwy bits.

TK
07-30-2010, 03:00 PM
Whoa! That's way more characters than I was expecting. Very cool. I would like to get better looks at Scourge, Thunderwing and Jazz. The combiners don't look entirely hot. Bet you anything that the fan made ones are going to still put them to shame.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
07-30-2010, 03:12 PM
Those are from that kiddy line Powercore Combiners anyway. It's pretty hit or miss. Those seem to be the coolest looking of the 5-team combiners so far though.

There are some other things not pictured there, like the Skullgrin remold of Straxus.

PS Someone digitally colored the MP Rodimus:



And other pictures have shown things like extra exhaust pipes on the back of the legs:



There's also four wheels on the robot and four wheels on the base. That, amongst other things, like the seemingly segmented gun and hinge on the back of the head seem to indicate the toy does have a regular "Hot Rod mode" as well.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rod1.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/rod2.jpg




Tom Toonami Tunes
07-31-2010, 10:52 PM
That legends prime is a little cutie and he looks very good in both robot and truck modes.

Neg
08-03-2010, 10:05 PM
Finally get another Gun Megs and it's legends class. Figures.

Tits Scourge looks so much better than that Generations one. Not even particularly hot on that Jazz mold. Perceptor is a truck now? Is that their answer to every transformer that became a mass-shifted object? Soundwave? Make 'em a truck. Perceptor? MAKE 'EM A TRUCK.

The trailer for MP Roddy looks suspiciously like the original G1 one. Couldn't trick it out a bit?

TK
08-03-2010, 10:26 PM
They can't really make another gun Megs that's worth it anyway. The classics blaster one was a good toy, but the alt mode sucked. I'll take a tank or a plane.

Neg
08-03-2010, 10:29 PM
I'm fine with flying vehicles. I wish all to hell that Megs was a flyer in WFC. That tank was so goddamn LAME.

Tanks in general, are. Unless they are cute softball tanks, like Blitzwing, of course~

The Henkei version of Classics megs is pretty sweet. I can live with that Nerf Gun, as long as it isn't G2 colors.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-04-2010, 05:03 AM
Finally get another Gun Megs and it's legends class. Figures.

Tits Scourge looks so much better than that Generations one. Not even particularly hot on that Jazz mold. Perceptor is a truck now? Is that their answer to every transformer that became a mass-shifted object? Soundwave? Make 'em a truck. Perceptor? MAKE 'EM A TRUCK.

Titanium Scourge looks ok but it's pretty bad. I imagine good pictures where the arms are at least in place properly will be a better chance to judge how the new one really is.

Jazz appears to have about the same transformation as the old toy, lots of the parts seem the same or end up in the same places, like the tires on the shoulders. Looks promising enough to me.

Perceptor is a halftrack, which is sort of like the bastard child of a truck and a tank. Original one had a "tank mode" so it kinda works. Animated one had the same kind of alt mode.

Don't forget Takara/Tomy has been turning some of the old mass-shifting guys into modern personal items like mp3 players and USB hubs:


Neg
08-04-2010, 05:09 AM
I have a G1 Perceptor. I don't remember it having a tank mode...

And yeah, I know Animated isn't innocent of the truck disease.

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-04-2010, 05:12 AM
Pity the flash drives only have about 2 GB and are about $40.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-04-2010, 05:28 AM
I have a G1 Perceptor. I don't remember it having a tank mode...

And yeah, I know Animated isn't innocent of the truck disease.

Best picture I could find of it was the Magnificus redeco:


Neg
08-04-2010, 05:30 AM
That WOULD explain why he had treads...

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-04-2010, 05:42 AM
Do you think 6 inch figures could hold the tiny megatron? I'd guess that the very least 12 inch guys could.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-04-2010, 05:45 AM
It'll probably be a bit too big for most of them

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-04-2010, 05:47 AM
I bet a Hulk toy could hold it!

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-04-2010, 10:58 PM
PERHAPS



I wish Universe Bluestreak really had these colors :(

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-05-2010, 08:06 AM
I'm obscure!





I'm a new character!




Penguin
08-05-2010, 10:12 AM
ktulu you should post obscure characters getting a toy henceforth and have us guess who they are

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-05-2010, 10:28 AM
Will do, Penguin.

PS: Hubcap get

spyboy
08-06-2010, 04:12 AM
I got Drift today. What a nice figure this turned out to be. Who would have thought a comic only character would ever get their own toy.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-06-2010, 05:12 AM
It's happened before with Jhiaxus, although that was only a repaint. Since Straxus/Darkmount is getting a new mold as well, in the same line, maybe we'll get more in the future.

Oh yeah, G2 Mindset is getting a toy as well, though it's a yellow bow remold.

Neg
08-06-2010, 05:26 AM
Ktulu are we going to fight here or over there?

For the record, I said what I said over there using the voice from this (http://www.soundboards.com/?view=70) soundboard.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Both



(not his gun)

Doesn't look bad, but the price is not favorable. For 70 bucks the alt mode would need to be more convincing.



Meh. Since it's a working USB hub, why not just make the alt mode a replica of the original toy instead of a laptop?

The underside isn't too far from it, aside from the obvious head:



But overall it's a better Classics Blaster than the Cybertron Soundwave repaint from Universe 2.0 :disgust:

Neg
08-06-2010, 10:40 PM
For Deluxe price I could roll with dat all da live-long day.

For $70, no, no, no, no, no.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-06-2010, 10:49 PM
If Hasbro would release the device label stuff, even as a store exclusive, I'm sure they'd be at least a bit more reasonable. I wouldn't even mind if they gutted the functionality to achieve that really.

Neg
08-06-2010, 11:11 PM
Yeah, I don't need a USB hub. That's just a passable update to Blaster. I'd be all over it.

Neg
08-10-2010, 05:15 AM
Okay, MP Roddy and Protector are completely off the table. And, obviously, Human Alliance Jazz.

Apparently, I collect Sentai stuff, now.

This is an expensive new hobby I've taken up.

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-10-2010, 06:53 AM
Okay, MP Roddy and Protector are completely off the table. And, obviously, Human Alliance Jazz.

Apparently, I collect Sentai stuff, now.

This is an expensive new hobby I've taken up.

I guess if you have to import it things would get quite pricey.

I guess you can't wait for the stuff to get localized for the American power rangers retooling.

Neg
08-10-2010, 06:59 AM
Bandai of America releases take a drop in quality. Thankfully this second batch was actually in the US already, so shipping was drastically less.

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-10-2010, 07:03 AM
Bandai of America releases take a drop in quality. Thankfully this second batch was actually in the US already, so shipping was drastically less.

They change the things? But isn't the whole point with power rangers is that you don't have to do much work because everything is already made for you to sell?

Neg
08-10-2010, 07:05 AM
Yep, they change the toys. Partly because they can be sold for cheaper.

I don't know a super lot about this, just what I've been told by other collectors.

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-10-2010, 07:09 AM


I figured they would need to change things like the heads on those head flipping figures and Trini dolls would be made from scrap because yellow ranger was a dude but it that's rather sad.

spyboy
08-10-2010, 10:00 AM
Usually material that is used in the toys is changed. Transformers are a good example. Also sometimes Sentai toys have electronics that are taken out. Otherwise not missing a whole lot, it just depends on series.

Back on topic, why does everyone want Hasbro's MP Grimlock???

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-11-2010, 12:09 AM
Back on topic, why does everyone want Hasbro's MP Grimlock???

More affordable. The differences aren't drastic enough to make it that much inferior. Some bits, teeth and such, aren't as sharp. Kind of a "so what" for a lot of people.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-13-2010, 08:05 AM

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-14-2010, 05:41 AM
Walmart reset the toy isle and the cybertron game figures are out along with some other guys, mini movie ravage is super cute and he turns into an Ichthyosaurus.

It's been years since I've needed to spell that. Was tricky finding the right spelling of it.

t0m s3rvo
08-15-2010, 06:06 AM


....Awesome. If they make that into a toy...it'll end up sucking.

t0m s3rvo
08-15-2010, 06:12 AM
I'm obscure!





I'm a new character!





I'm digging that version of Lockdown. Terradive...not so much. I think it's his body. oO;

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-15-2010, 07:26 AM
....Awesome. If they make that into a toy...it'll end up sucking.

Because?

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-15-2010, 04:10 PM
So there's a rumor that a new human character in TF3 named "Hardcore Eddie" gets to...kill Starscream.

Lawl. If that's true I can't say I care much, but it'll help the film proudly carry on the tradition of sucking.

TK
08-18-2010, 09:41 AM
So I have sworn off collecting Transformers in general but I am now engaged in a smaller scale more long term project of collecting Hot Rod/Rodimus. Pretty much just going to build a collection of any and all figures/statues/basically anything of him. Got these guys so far. It's a start.



Can't wait to add the MP version to this.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-18-2010, 04:01 PM
The animated one is out at TRU if you love him enough to dip into that line

Penguin
08-18-2010, 04:16 PM
I'm getting a depreeteenhardcoreharge vibe off that orange plane.

Trident and head are to blame I think.

I actually kind of dig that design.

TK
08-18-2010, 04:44 PM
The animated one is out at TRU if you love him enough to dip into that line

All Roddies are to be part of the collection, yes. I don't like the G1 versions either but I'm planning to hunt those down too.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-18-2010, 05:20 PM
If you'd posted this about a year ago I could have sold you mine for a good price. They were sent to BBTS instead, where I got gouged :(

TK
08-18-2010, 05:22 PM
sorry ;(

didn't have this plan a year ago!

Sackboy
08-18-2010, 08:39 PM
TK, I was going to suggest your collection needs moar geewon, but I'm glad to know you'll be hunting them down. cheers!

TK
08-18-2010, 09:40 PM
There's an awful lot of Roddy stuff out there. It needs more of everything!

Neg
08-19-2010, 02:02 AM
Judd Nelson figure is HARSH. He's gonna go back to the station house and cornhole him some drunks ;) TK probably won't get that. Oh well.

I know he's shit, but he's my favorite. I won't be picking up Animated Roddy for obvious reasons.

Penguin
08-19-2010, 02:26 AM
TK, I was going to suggest your collection needs moar geewon, but I'm glad to know you'll be hunting them down. cheers!

G1 toys are awful generally

Sackboy
08-19-2010, 02:50 AM
G1 toys are awful generally

How so, hmmm????

TK
08-19-2010, 02:58 AM
Bad proportions, no articulation. The ones that look good in robot mode (Soundwave, Optimus) are cool for displaying since they can just stand there and look OK, but it would still be nice if they had more articulation. Unfortunately most of them have feet the same size as their torso and arms barely larger than their head, or some such arrangement. I pretty much agree that they are bad overall. I will still get the geewun roddies for completeness's sake.

TK
08-19-2010, 02:59 AM
I won't be picking up Animated Roddy for obvious reasons.

What are the obvious reasons? For me they would be that Animated is ugly as hell but I'm assuming that's not the case with you!

Neg
08-19-2010, 03:08 AM
Other plastic crack priorities.

TK
08-19-2010, 03:12 AM
That's not obvious at all.

Neg
08-19-2010, 03:13 AM
If you follow Latest Purchase, or generally talk to me directly, it is.

TK
08-19-2010, 03:16 AM
Nuh uh.

Sackboy
08-19-2010, 04:13 AM
If you follow the text messages going on between Neg and I then it's very obvious. mir.




Edit: With all the action that's obviously going on in the scene they're filming I REALLY need to know if 6" heels are necessary.


Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-23-2010, 06:18 AM
http://www.thebest404pageever.com/swf/lazer_zombie_rave.swf




spyboy
08-23-2010, 07:55 AM
Yes, a character I can pass up on. Don't really like Rodimus.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-23-2010, 08:20 AM
You will be bashed mercilessly.

Sackboy
08-23-2010, 09:39 PM
Masterpiece need moar Hotrod and less Rodimus.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-23-2010, 09:59 PM
Mad speculation of all the pictures so far suggests this could be both

Sackboy
08-24-2010, 08:49 AM
Honestly, I'm doubting there will be a Hotrod mode. Something tells me those extra details are just there to make the alt mode less unatractive once you remove the trailer part. the design on the front half of Prime's alt mode (hood and windshield) is way shorter than Hotrod's sports car alt mode.

Penguin
08-24-2010, 09:41 AM
Honestly, I'm doubting there will be a Hotrod mode. Something tells me those extra details are just there to make the alt mode less unatractive once you remove the trailer part. the design on the front half of Prime's alt mode (hood and windshield) is way shorter than Hotrod's sports car alt mode.

The Masterpiece line is a compromise between functionality, show accuracy and comic accuracy.

Just because the hood is short doesn't mean it won't be Hot Rod.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-24-2010, 03:27 PM
Check this out again http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/lets-talk-about-transformers-29541/233.html#post1516344

It's all just stuff from other people, I'm not saying I necessarily believe one way or the other.

TK
08-24-2010, 04:53 PM
A Hot Rod mode would make this toy even more my ultimate wet dream than it already is, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Sackboy
08-24-2010, 09:43 PM
Rodimus looks too much like John Kerry.




Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-28-2010, 08:26 AM
Yeah:















Metalhawk Epps:


Sackboy
08-28-2010, 03:48 PM
Ktulu, I love it when you prove me wrong. That means I just went from dissapointment to pure bliss.

TK
08-28-2010, 05:59 PM
holly shit ahkliasdghaiohgawegaohgahio yes

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-28-2010, 08:14 PM



Sackboy
08-29-2010, 07:30 AM
Now all we need is a hot pink version. I'd give my left nut for one.

Tom Toonami Tunes
08-29-2010, 07:33 AM
Now all we need is a hot pink version. I'd give my left nut for one.

No don't! You might need it! Unless it can also turn into a left nut.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-31-2010, 11:19 PM
There are several interesting rumors circulating among online stores regarding the much-anticipated Masterpiece Rodimus Prime. Among those rumors, reported by Cybertron.CA sponsor Metropolis Comics and Toys is the suggestion that Masterpiece Rodimus Prime will be released in the US first this time around, with Japanese orders not opening until next month and an actual release date slated for February 2011. However the recent release of Masterpiece Grimlock - and the Transformers 3 toyline looming on the horizon - casts some doubt on this possibility.

Other rumors that have been circulating suggest that in order to keep costs down, the US release of Masterpiece Rodimus might come without his trailer. There has been some speculation that like Masterpiece Grimlock, who traded apron bow tie and drinks tray for a crown in his US release, Masterpiece Rodimus might get a different accessory - such as his Targetmaster - to make up for the lack of trailer. Take that with a large pinch of salt though - while odds are a US release might drop the trailer, costs associated with producing a Targetmaster might be too high to make it workable. So the smart money says no Trailer, no Targetmaster. But hey, we're just passing on the speculation here.

Please bear in mind this is all a rumor right now

Neg
08-31-2010, 11:33 PM
You can have Optimus without a trailer. You can't have Roddy without a trailer.

FACT.

Look at your G1 figure w/o the trailer and tell me it isn't true.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-31-2010, 11:43 PM
If this was made the same way, without a real vehicle mode under the trailer, I'd say it would be atrocious. Since that's not the case I think it'd be ok, especially since a lot of people hate the space Winnebago anyway.

Neg
08-31-2010, 11:46 PM
People hate Space Winnebagos.......

no....

:(

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
08-31-2010, 11:49 PM
My speculation - the size of the main figure is the same height as MP Grimlock, so it's really only about as big as your standard "leader class" toy. I don't see why it'd be that expensive to just include the trailer for the Hasbro release. The only issue would be the smaller run that does necessitate a higher price. Grimlock for example is 70 bucks at TRU. With less bulk on the robot portion of Rodimus/Hot Rod than Grimlock, maybe the trailer would just even things out. Have to wait and see, of course.

Neg
09-01-2010, 12:24 AM
I don't know why I'm complaining, anyway. If I was going to get it, I'd obviously import the real thing.

I've become such a toy snob :(

My wallet is crying.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-01-2010, 01:50 AM
That phrase cements your status as a toy freak. All the greats have used it time and time again.

Sackboy
09-01-2010, 02:00 AM
The only acceptable space winnebago is in Space Balls. But I still feel selling Rodimus without the trailer is unacceptable.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-01-2010, 02:08 AM
But in this case you take away the trailer and then it's just Hot Rod with a matrix transforming action feature in robot mode.

...which I actually never liked. I think it cheapens the Autobot leaders if they need some matrix power-up as a crutch.

Sackboy
09-01-2010, 02:14 AM
So would this mean they're going to remove Prime's face? I don't like the idea of removing his trailer while still having evidence of Prime pieces left behind.

Neg
09-01-2010, 02:14 AM
He's like the pokemon of TF. He needed it to evolve.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-01-2010, 02:17 AM
Son you be sniped

Neg
09-01-2010, 02:23 AM
Wait, does that mean you want to fight....again?

Sackboy
09-01-2010, 02:28 AM
I'm a lover. Not a fighter.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-01-2010, 05:35 AM
May I also love too?


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Neg
09-01-2010, 05:48 AM
I'd add my fast action battler Jazz to that menagerie, but lazy.

I've got fighting covered. Love all you want, gentlemen.

Ore... sanjou!

Sackboy
09-01-2010, 08:25 AM
I just realized that Rodimus requires additional hood and windshield pieces that attatch to Hotrod's alt mode. I feel dumb.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-01-2010, 10:12 AM
I'd add my fast action battler Jazz to that menagerie, but lazy.

If you had any movie Megatrons that would be a hilarious meta addition

hilarious, really

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-02-2010, 12:19 AM
I'm not going to wait for someone to post. No.

So TF3 has this human character named Hardcore Eddie. Heh. His rundown is that he is tied to another of the main human characters and is some crazy badass that basically just blows shit up real good like. This is supposed to be the guy that might kill Starscream. The actor thinks it's a great creation by Bay. Ok. As I said at TFW - I hope we get a Hardcore Eddie spinoff series. It sounds quite deep and riveting.

Minty
09-02-2010, 12:21 AM
Lets not talk about Transformers.

Lets talk about sheep and wax.

I heard a rumour Michael Bay is made of wax.

And there are other things.

Sackboy
09-02-2010, 01:43 AM
I forgot how to transform my animated megs.

Neg
09-02-2010, 04:13 AM
I'm pretty sure I can transform Animated Megs and I don't even own him :erm:

Sackboy
09-02-2010, 04:27 AM
Yeah, welll, I'm not awesome like you.

Friday is payday and I'll be searching for animated roddy.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-02-2010, 04:54 AM
I'm pretty sure I can transform Animated Megs and I don't even own him :erm:

Watch this guy fail: YouTube - Craig Attempts to Transform Megatron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heU7qEHwILw)

Neg
09-02-2010, 04:57 AM
I remember this, yes. Gogdog gloty.

Sackboy
09-02-2010, 05:08 AM
I'd like to see him fail at Masterpiece Megs, but he'd prolly break it.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-02-2010, 07:36 AM
Even guys that know what they're doing can easily break that one :p

The mighty Peuagh, who has gained over 30 million Youtube hits just by talking about Transformers, actually complimented my latest video raveew. I don't think he's ever commented on any of them till now. It's kind of neat getting a nod from the big dog, I suppose!

YouTube - Drift - Transformers Generations Toy Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrHrd3ducWs)

It's ridiculous and silly and obnoxious until 2:30 in, fair warning

edit - and zomg Thew http://twitter.com/misterthew/status/22777420737

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-02-2010, 07:46 AM
Watch this guy fail: YouTube - Craig Attempts to Transform Megatron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heU7qEHwILw)

I thought this was going to be Craig Ferguson. I am disappoint Ktulu.

Neg
09-02-2010, 07:50 AM
I think I'd pay money to see that.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-02-2010, 07:51 AM
The robot skeleton army salutes you

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-03-2010, 10:11 PM
More Highbrow





goggles on



More Terradive



More creepy comic stuff


Neg
09-04-2010, 04:21 AM
Ktulu, I think Drift would like to hang out with this guy.



What do you think?

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-04-2010, 04:56 AM
Yes. They would eat Pocky together.

In Steve Blum news - he is voicing Starscream in Prime. He was Barricade and the narrator in WFC. Also had a part no one will remember from RiD. I'm sorry that it's not Keanu, Neg.


Tom Toonami Tunes
09-04-2010, 06:59 AM
RiD?

Neg
09-04-2010, 07:30 AM
Robots in Diguise. Originally Car Robots in Japan.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-04-2010, 10:58 AM
Goofy show but neat toyline, had everything under the sun~ Did the Universe 1.0 concept much better before Universe 1.0 was even around.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-04-2010, 06:53 PM

Dr Faustus
09-04-2010, 08:12 PM

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-06-2010, 03:58 AM

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-08-2010, 02:09 PM
It's old news by now, but FansProject is releasing a black version of the Protector armor (upgrade for Classics Rodimus) with a scythe that's all goth and shit. They've limited it to 400 pieces. The preorders are about gone, or maybe even entirely gone by now. I can't say I care enough to check seeing as I can't afford it and don't have either of the dark repaints of the Classics Rodimus mold anyway. It's not like I've been staring down any pre-order pages deciding whether or not to give in.

To the point - The Shattered Glass Rodimus from Botcon 08, the primary toy that this new armor (dubbed "Shadow Scyther") is meant for, has skyrocketed in value. One just went for 500 bucks on eBay - Transformers BOTCON 2008 RODIMUS Hot Rod Figure - eBay (item 260659474807 end time Sep-07-10 18:40:00 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-BOTCON-2008-RODIMUS-Hot-Rod-Figure-/260659474807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb083f177)

IMO FansProject does make some great shit. A lot of people rag on them for using Hasbro's Intellectual Property for their own gain. While it's indeed a bit shady - they're creative, they put out quality product, and they're careful to not do anything outright illegal. It's nothing like that company that made an exact miniaturized copy of Masterpiece Convoy and is releasing Masterpiece conehead seekers based directly on the existing MP Starscream mold. I give FP kudos there.

I am bothered that any of the rarer things they make "upgrades" for then become even harder to get however. It's becoming a bit of an unsettling trend. It happened with the "Revenge of the Fallen" Aerialbots/Combaticons (initially meant for Universe 2.0/Classics) and the white Classics Prime "Ultra Magnus" (all Target exclusive toys that some people struggled to find) as well. Anyone that wants those toys now, even fans that just want the base Hasbro product sans any extraneous upgrades, will now have to dig even deeper into their pockets.

Personally, I kind of dig the idea of the Shattered Glass universe and always wanted to get the toys. An important part of that "set", the black Rodimus, complete with evil facial hair, is now even less likely to have a place on my shelves. I appreciate what FansProject does, but for those of us with tighter budgets that dreamed of someday owning slightly more "prestige items" like SG Rodimus, they're only complicating that even further. It's not the worst thing in the world by any means, but it is a tiny bit frustrating.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-10-2010, 05:56 AM
The Rock is going to voice Cliffjumper in the new cartoon.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-10-2010, 06:06 AM
Saw that earlier and didn't believe it, but it is an "ENI Exclusive" so maybe.

Judging from the trade paperback preview, the character does seem to be getting a lot of focus:

Transformers Prime Character Art - Transformers News (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-character-art-170539/)

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-11-2010, 05:18 AM
1986 Zip-Lock Transformers Movie Iron-On Rodimus Prime - eBay (item 400138759089 end time Sep-21-10 17:05:48 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-Zip-Lock-Transformers-Movie-Iron-On-Rodimus-Prime-/400138759089?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2a20ebb1)
http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-Transformers-Takara-Japan-Rodimus-Prime-Vinyl-Fig-/400138747682?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2a20bf22

Neg
09-11-2010, 05:42 AM
TK'll be all over that shizz.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-11-2010, 06:21 AM
Remember guys...

Neg
09-11-2010, 06:26 AM
Oh teh lols XD

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-13-2010, 07:04 AM
Fellow (better) Transformer reviewer (and friend of Ktulu lol) Vangelus will now be on TGWTG.com with his toy reviews. That's pretty damn awesome!

woot has the G1 DVD box set for like 50 bucks today. That's damn crazy. I still don't think I'll get it though, lawl.

Neg
09-13-2010, 10:32 AM
Holy crap, that's great news! Needs to do more Kamen Rider reviews, imo. Though, TJ does have the role-play items ON LOCK.

Vangelus actually got a featured packing from CS Toys and Mr. S was so reverent about it. "This is for toy reviewer Vangelus. Wow!"

Oh Mr. S~<3

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-13-2010, 11:40 AM
TJ's shit-cartoon review series may be picked up on the site too. He applied before and they liked it but wanted to see at least 10 full episodes before accepting, apparently.

Neg
09-13-2010, 11:51 AM
Yeah, I remember. The problem was getting into a maintainable schedule, though, wasn't it? He's been trying to get them up weekly, lately.

I know his TF audience probably want his head on a stake, but I don't have anything but respect for him. I'd rather see KR toys and TJtv than just more generic TF reviews, since he doesn't feel like doing Rushed Reviews or Plastic Addict, atm.

Seems like a ballsy choice, and I support him in it. Maybe that's just because I'm so blase about TF currently, and what seems to be on the horizon, but still, more power to him.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-13-2010, 12:09 PM
He does get some "oh you just want to be popular" criticism. I don't think there's anything wrong with it though really. He's found something he enjoys doing and wants to pursue it. It stems from the same innocent urge that makes 3 year olds run to show their parents the mess of green and blue they just scribbled into a coloring book. We all need some "place" in the world and the feeling of contribution fills that void a bit. Wanting to share it is natural. We all suffer from a bit of "look at me!" disease. I don't feel I'm any different and I certainly wouldn't judge him for what he's doing.

Nobody thinks it will work, do they?

No. You just described every great success story.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-14-2010, 11:49 PM
Importing MP Rodimus will be around 200 bucks even before shipping. BBTS has a pre-order for $199 now, and it's essentially the same elsewhere.

Neg
09-15-2010, 01:03 AM
Doesn't sound outlandish. Still, I'm glad I paid well under half for the $200 item I did buy.

Timing is everything.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-15-2010, 04:49 PM
Slightly better versions of the official Takara photos

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/takaratomy_12543_02.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/takaratomy_12543_06.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/takaratomy_12543_05.jpghttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/HostedByChrist/takaratomy_12543_04.jpg

Neg
09-15-2010, 07:24 PM
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/ConstantMnemonic/krocan01.jpghttp://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/ConstantMnemonic/krocan02.jpg

YouTube - 01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptVaERBdz9M)

These are simple and elegant. The video is much better for seeing their quality than those pics. Tako even has the spinning gimmick built in. I know I'm the kind of person who'd want a figuart of OOO's base form, but these are just wonderful.

Why in the TF thread? Because proof Takara/Hasbro are continually falling from grace (the bespoiled, blackened grace that is doled out by me, at any rate ;))

Marceline
09-15-2010, 07:49 PM
I want one of the octopus can droids so bad. Ideally I would have a million tiny ones so I can build pathways with them.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-16-2010, 06:55 AM
I love it went someone makes simple things look detailed like that.


Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-17-2010, 06:55 PM
Ratchet is the greatest~

Made a new review: yellowy card "Brimstone"

YouTube - Brimstone - Transformers Toy Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD-Ef19NvAY)

This one's a shorty! Interesting how it came out, as this is a toy I didn't even want at first. I didn't even intend to review it once I caved and got him either. As usual, the layout of the video is exaggerated goofiness followed by some serious thoughts near the end.

I hate how prone that damn mask is to drawing dog hairs and lint, especially ones the camera picks up that I couldn't see prior to throwing it on :(

Mackinaw
09-17-2010, 07:14 PM
hey guys, I'm a n00b wanting to comment on TF so sorry if it looks like I'm trying to jack the conversation here... I'm not sure if any of you were fans of Transformers 25 years ago (damn, has it been that long?! ) but...

As a kid, this toy and 30-minute comm-er- I mean cartoon were my favorites to the point of almost being a religion for me. Rhino started releasing the cartoon on DVD a bunch of years ago and I bought the first season being shocked at how bad the cartoon was watching it as an adult (to be fair, I was spoiled by anime at the time. Cowboy Bebop mostly.)

But I was bitten by the nostalgia bug again recently and decided to pick up the final 2 seasons on DVD when I came across them. I wasn't able to watch the very last mini-series as a kid (its what they're calling the '4th season'), but HOLY SHIT!!!

Its bad.

really bad...

not even trying bad... Occasionally hilarious too. I'm not sure if any of you watch the old cartoons, but you should know exactly what I'm talking about if you did. The animators started to display signs of not caring in the 3rd season, especially at the end in the Return of Optimus miniseries where they stopped trying altogether. The transforming animations are extra weird, and I think my favorite is where Kup transforms and drives away backwards.

but damn... That cartoon jumped the sharkticon post animated movie. Everything went down hill, especially when introducing those stupid quintesson things.

Anyway, thank you for listening to an old man rant.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-17-2010, 07:35 PM
There were a few different animation studios working on the original show. The cheapest, AKOM, ended up with a majority of season 3 and The Rebirth. It's a shame, but it was a business decision. The show had a rushed schedule (numerous different writers would work on multiple episodes all at the same time, resulting in some of the continuity errors like Devestator's origins) and a pretty small budget. This was also a time when Hasbro didn't care as much about the property - so they just sort of let the cartoon go.

FYI - the Rhino DVDs have a lot of errors that aren't representative of the original broadcasts. Attempts to clean up the damaged masters went wrong here and there and they sometimes had to use unfinished versions of the animation. They also altered the sound in several instances such as completely changing the sound effects. The newer DVDs from Shout! Factory have fixed a lot of the screw ups, but they are still not exactly as they were originally shown in the 80s.

Mackinaw
09-17-2010, 08:28 PM
FYI - the Rhino DVDs have a lot of errors that aren't representative of the original broadcasts. Attempts to clean up the damaged masters went wrong here and there and they sometimes had to use unfinished versions of the animation. They also altered the sound in several instances such as completely changing the sound effects. The newer DVDs from Shout! Factory have fixed a lot of the screw ups, but they are still not exactly as they were originally shown in the 80s.

WTF? really? that's screwed up! Is this the case for all the epsidoes, or just the later ones?

but, yeah, I don't think the original cartoon's demise was quite the fault of Hasbro. The movie screwed up things a lot. On one hand, the film murdered off most of the old transformers to make way for the newer transformers but the post-movie cartoon has a heavy reliance on OLD (like no longer available in stores at the time old) transformers that weren't killed off since there were so few new ones. It also drastically shifted gears from the cartoon taking place in a modern age setting to being thrown into futuristic outer space sci-fi. Some of the characters even- Rodimus in particular is written as though the writers absolutely hated the character (take a drink every time you hear him whining about the responsibilities of being a leader) wanting him gone so bad that it led to them ressurrecting Optimus.

Galvitron's oversimplification into a cartoon villain is great though.

Thanks for the reply though. I suspect there's a little more to the cartoon's demise other than Hasbro letting the cartoon go for financial reasons.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-17-2010, 09:10 PM
The Rhino DVDs have errors that originated with them throughout all of the seasons.

I think you're taking what I said about the cartoon's budget the wrong way. I was just explaining why the later episodes have a lot of bad animation. In terms of who's "fault" the cartoon's demise would be though, I would still ultimately point to Hasbro. Though Marvel and Sunbow were key in forming the initial Transformers mythos, Hasbro was still head of the TF brand. They handled the licensing and called the shots on who did what. They weren't told by anyone else how things would be. It's their product. They dictated how the brand grew - such as taking it to a futuristic setting in 1986. Granted, some guy in the Hasbro offices wasn't sitting there writing everything, but there was certainly someone in a similar position at least saying yes or no to any major shifts in the brand.

In terms of the cartoon ending, my understanding is that it was not canceled but simply stopped by Hasbro. There was a Season 5 - but it was only a "best of" with a stop motion Optimus retelling old stories to a kid. From then on, they promoted the toys in the comics and commercials alone. It's no surprise that brand interest waned in the following years. It was only exacerbated by Hasbro moving further and further away from the base concept of the franchise and adding more and more gimmicks every year - Pretenders, Micro Masters, Action Masters, and so on. The period from 1986-1989 where the focus of the toyline (which dictated the fiction to a large extent given the promotional nature) was primarily on introducing tons of new characters was also a big part of the issue. I'd imagine the kids that had grown fond of the likes of Bumblebee and Megatron, and the simple joy of cars/planes/house hold items that turned into robots vs. abstract space vehicles and other nonsense, must have felt somewhat alienated.

By the time Hasbro finally made a real attempt to celebrate the core established characters (past a mere five new toys from the original cast being released between 86-89) with the Action Masters - it was now the early 90s. Considering it was wrapped around yet another new "controversial" gimmick (non-Transforming Transformers!) it was too little too late. The US toyline and original Marvel comic both ended fairly soon after this, and the franchise itself was left gasping for air with very little activity in Japan and Europe until "Generation 2" hit.

I guess you can't say Hasbro is entirely to "blame", but it was certainly the driving force. However, considering that there was still enough interest overall to keep things going through the early 90s into Generation 2 and ultimately Beast Wars, I don't actually think in terms of "Generation 1 was ruined!" or any of that shit. I don't put much thought into it. Ultimately, the toy line enjoyed an impressive 7 years on shelves (more if you count foreign markets), it's related media remains a strong nostalgic favorite for people in their early 20s-early 30s and on, and it's the genesis of what has turned out to be a franchise with a strong legacy and real staying power, so I can only look back positively. Some things could have worked out better in retrospect, but the end result, even if I hate the current live action movies, is far from negative so it's really not a big deal for me.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-18-2010, 10:29 AM
Maybe I scared him away nerding the fuck out like that

So more Judd Nelson:



Confirms Matrix compartment and ability to hold it, plus other neat things~

RAMBO

Same shit, BIGGER

Same shit, LARGER



lunge


Mackinaw
09-19-2010, 02:15 AM
thanks for the introspective. I'm not quite sure about your comment on the Rhino DVDs though, the first-second seasons are spot-on AFAIK and they didn't run into trouble until the last few seasons which had missing scenes and such. By "not representitive of their original broadcasts", I thought you meant some of the episodes were heavily edited or something... The whole Rebirth of Optimus mini-series for instance seems to be missing stuff, even in the Shout!factory reissue. I recall there being a little more to the whole Bumblebee Goldbug thing that's not there from the original airing...


I guess you can't say Hasbro is entirely to "blame", but it was certainly the driving force.

I'm not quite so certain about this. Hasbro, like any business, is out to make money and


There was a Season 5 - but it was only a "best of" with a stop motion Optimus retelling old stories to a kid.

backs up my point entirely about how everything following the animated movie screwed TF up so bad they were trying to get back to when the line was popular, but it was too late. :shrug: besides, the show got w-i-e-r-d weird. Like the one where the Autobots land on a planet full of alien mongols and they give Perceptor (who at that time is a L@@K R@R3 not found in stores anymore toy) a sex change.


there was still enough interest overall to keep things going through the early 90s into Generation 2 and ultimately Beast Wars, I don't actually think in terms of "Generation 1 was ruined!" or any of that shit.

"generation 2" as in the comic? Or "generation 2" as in adding CGI to episodes of the original cartoon? Depending on what we're talking about, Beast Wars came out before the "generation 2" cartoon and the only thing I know for certain about Generation 2 is that its confusing as hell since we could be talking about a few different things. I don't know where you're located, but in the US, the toy line was dead as a doornail as the 90's hit.

Whatever the case, it wasn't my intention to start a 'G1 WAS RUINED WWWHHARRGHGHBLHBLGJBL' tirade. bleargh, I shouldn't have opened this can of worms... Maybe I should just dig out some of my old toys and post pictures of them instead. I have some pretty good ones still!

also DAMN! those Hotrod & Rodimus figures almost make me want to get back into collecting these things. If the originals were as good as that, the line would've fared a lot better.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-19-2010, 07:13 AM
Like I said - the Rhino DVDs were largely made by cleaning up unfinished versions of the animation, and that goes for all seasons. Examples from earlier ones:

Original - Starscream's rectifier glows


Rhino - There's nothing there


Original - Cliffjumper is red


Rhino - They mistook him for Bumblebee, colored him yellow


Original - Long Haul has equipment in the bed of his truck, seen as he transforms


Rhino - they drew on something entirely different that just pops up after transformation




In the original they're clearing rubble with their powers - in the Rhino DVD the effects aren't there so it becomes a really awkward moment.

More color mishaps


Might be thinking it's not that bad, but these are only a few examples. What was originally aired often made more sense overall than some of the changes that were made for the DVDs. The more weird little errors, the stronger the sense of "whoa this show sucked" - and a lot of that did originate with the "cleaned up" versions. The sound effect changes also add a bizarre element that diminishes the quality of the show overall. This is not to say the show was originally perfect, but aside from adding some vibrancy to the picture quality - Rhino definitely made it worse.

I was talking about the Generation 2 brand as a whole, which lasted until 95. They debuted Beast Wars the next year. Toy production takes about a year from start to finish, so we can assume Beast Wars was probably in development before G2 ended. Further evidence - some of the later G2 toys featured similar engineering to the Beast Wars figures, i.e. the ball joints and flipchanging transformers that became common. Anyway - it's true that G2 was not a smash hit compared to the 80s run, but it did manage to stay around a couple of years and kept the brand in toy and comic stores.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-19-2010, 07:47 AM
I'm tired and can't really read but what I get from this is the DVD's a crap for Transformers. The Same thing goes for tehj THundercats DVDs. No restoration, all they did was transfer the tapes onto discs with zero cleaning, & soem discs are even missing whole sound tracks.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-20-2010, 04:27 PM
Protector prototype:




Neg
09-21-2010, 04:10 AM
People think the Subtitles are female? o_O

This is news to me.

Sackboy
09-21-2010, 04:55 AM
Like I said - the Rhino DVDs were largely made by cleaning up unfinished versions of the animation, and that goes for all seasons. Examples from earlier ones:

Original - Starscream's rectifier glows


Rhino - There's nothing there


Original - Cliffjumper is red


Rhino - They mistook him for Bumblebee, colored him yellow


Original - Long Haul has equipment in the bed of his truck, seen as he transforms


Rhino - they drew on something entirely different that just pops up after transformation




In the original they're clearing rubble with their powers - in the Rhino DVD the effects aren't there so it becomes a really awkward moment.

More color mishaps


Might be thinking it's not that bad, but these are only a few examples. What was originally aired often made more sense overall than some of the changes that were made for the DVDs. The more weird little errors, the stronger the sense of "whoa this show sucked" - and a lot of that did originate with the "cleaned up" versions. The sound effect changes also add a bizarre element that diminishes the quality of the show overall. This is not to say the show was originally perfect, but aside from adding some vibrancy to the picture quality - Rhino definitely made it worse.

I was talking about the Generation 2 brand as a whole, which lasted until 95. They debuted Beast Wars the next year. Toy production takes about a year from start to finish, so we can assume Beast Wars was probably in development before G2 ended. Further evidence - some of the later G2 toys featured similar engineering to the Beast Wars figures, i.e. the ball joints and flipchanging transformers that became common. Anyway - it's true that G2 was not a smash hit compared to the 80s run, but it did manage to stay around a couple of years and kept the brand in toy and comic stores.

At least they didn't add rap lyrics to the original theme song. lol.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-21-2010, 05:47 PM
Better look at the upcoming Tracks' car mode:



Flames are way overdone, but the inclusion of a rubsign is awesome

New picture of the bot mode too...but it's still not transformed right:


Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-21-2010, 08:18 PM
And only a day after we learned of the toy in a Wal Mart computer listing - we see Generations Wreck Gar:


Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-23-2010, 12:14 AM
TFCC magazine revealed a new G2 Laser Prime for Generations as well as a tiny Trailbreaker update named "Trailcutter" - his first ever official updated toy. Also showed pictures of the Scourge, Perceptor, and Tracks that are properly transformed. They look ace. Finally, Wreck-Gar's vehicle mode was shown and they officially announced that MP Rodimus' US release will be sans-trailer, but full of a bunch of accessories the Japanese one won't have.

Neg
09-23-2010, 12:26 AM
Pics of Wreck-Gar's alt mode when they get online, please. He looks kinda bitchin'.

First time that the odd placement of cycle wheels is appropriate? Mayhaps. Mayhaps.

Marceline
09-23-2010, 12:50 AM
I really like that Wreck-Gar, tbh. He looks like the kind of bot who would dare to be stupid. <3

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-23-2010, 01:22 AM
WreckGar cycle picture is online already - "illegally", not sure if I should post them here :p Anyway, it's not shown, but he does seem to be able to "ride himself" - the pegs on the crotch seem to correspond with the holes on the seat. Hopefully his redeco/remold is a generic Junkion if that's true.

Tons of other new pictures just came out. I spent the time to separate and resize em, lawl:



Brimstone repaint, looks like Armada Sideways colors

Windcharger <3

New PCC shiet

Dinobots

Grimstone

Combined form

Constructicons

Steamhammer

Combined form

Fallback (Outback)

Mindset

WFC Cliffjumper

Jazz

Tracks

Thunderwing

Skullgrin

Mindset doesn't look much at all like the character he's meant to represent, the PCC things are hit and miss as always, "Fallback" is underwhelming, and Track's weird feet bug me, but otherwise this is cool shit imo

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-23-2010, 08:23 PM
New Transformers 3 footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n5MgQ0iwLY)

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-24-2010, 02:37 AM
Just as faithful as the real thing!

Some weird guy I've never heard of is reporting that the above Jazz and Tracks are actually not Generations but the yellowcard movie-but-not-movie line and it's being accepted as fact. I don't understand why that would be at all. What the hell is going on :(

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-24-2010, 11:35 PM
From GogDog:



I have one on the way~

Penguin
09-26-2010, 05:14 AM
ktulu

you think the protector set will sell well when the mp roddy is coming out soon?

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-26-2010, 10:04 AM
I'm sure plenty will still buy it. Hot Rod/Rodimus is rather popular, lots of "I NEED EVERY RODIMUS THING EVER" fans around.

I'm actually growing less fond of the idea of fan upgrades over time. A lot of them so far have been pretty great products, but I really only care about the official stuff, even if some of it can (or really needs to) be improved upon. Perhaps it's just their pricey nature and the complete lack of worry that neglecting to buy will somehow hamper "completionism."

Marceline
09-26-2010, 07:50 PM
Finally grabbed Cybertronian Bumblebee. He's still in the box right now so I haven't had a chance to transform him yet. I'll have him do battle with some of my other toys and post pics soon~

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-26-2010, 08:59 PM
Just remember - the arms peg into the shoulders, which is easy to miss. Otherwise you'll have a hard time getting everything all lined up.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-27-2010, 08:03 PM
Some Prime models we haven't seen:



Would you have guessed that this is...Soundwave?

Starscream

Bulkhead

Ok. The Decepticons are way too scrawny. They're kind of weird like the movie designs but far more sleek. Given that they're coherent rather than piles of parts, I like them better than the movie ones, but at the same time, they just don't work for me. Bulkhead is fine though, just looks like the Animated one in a "normal." style.

Of all the models we've seen, I really only like two or three. Shame.

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-28-2010, 06:38 AM
(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/4923279-original.html)

Tom Toonami Tunes
09-30-2010, 06:17 PM
Bulkhead is back! I hope they get the same voice actor though.


Sackboy
09-30-2010, 07:29 PM
Bulkhead is fucking awesome! I love that design.

Neg
09-30-2010, 07:35 PM
Bulkhead is love. That redesign is not.

Sackboy
09-30-2010, 07:37 PM
Want.


Neg
09-30-2010, 07:37 PM
.....more Animated?

Yes.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
09-30-2010, 08:32 PM
Bulkhead is back!



Really?

Penguin
10-01-2010, 12:48 AM
Yeah I don't think that looks too bad

Marceline
10-01-2010, 01:05 AM
Bulkhead is back! I hope they get the same voice actor though.



Who do you think you are, having two faces!?!

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-01-2010, 05:55 AM
I think he turns into some type of humvee instead of the armored police van. I also heard Soundwave has no face, doesn't talk much, looks like an Eva unit, and turns into a phallic predator drone.

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Bulkhead is love. That redesign is not.


.....more Animated?

Yes.

You sound conflicted.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-01-2010, 06:08 AM
You heard about Soundwave but haven't seen him?

Neg
10-01-2010, 06:16 AM
I love Animated Bulkhead. I don't like the redesign. I see no conflict~

I mean, they're similar, but the aesthetic is different enough for me to be turned off by it.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-01-2010, 08:14 PM
Legends, man



I wonder if this post will be invisible

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-01-2010, 10:02 PM
I really like that mini Optimus.

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YouTube - [MMD]TF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKMuILDh_sw&feature=player_embedded)

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-01-2010, 10:17 PM
So Generations really is getting thrown into the yellow box line. The Hunt for the Decepticons promotion is being dropped and replaced with "Reveal the Shield." Those Legends, Jazz, and Tracks are already part of it, with packaged pictures confirming. The "gimmick" is that they all have rubsigns and their factions are not revealed on the packaging. This is also why Jazz and Tracks have weird names instead of Autobot Jazz/Autobot Tracks. When I saw the rubsigns on some of these guys (like Tracks) I figured it wasn't any big deal, just a cool return to that, but eh, they're making a fuss about it. It's going to be weird seeing "Classics style" toys in the same packaging as "movie style" toys - but if this combination helps the longevity of Generations/Classics/Universe-ish toys, and some actually come out over the duration of next year while the third movie line runs wild, I'm happy with that.

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-02-2010, 05:47 AM
You heard about Soundwave but haven't seen him?

Firefox totally crashed when this:

Some Prime models we haven't seen:



Would you have guessed that this is...Soundwave?

Starscream

Bulkhead

Ok. The Decepticons are way too scrawny. They're kind of weird like the movie designs but far more sleek. Given that they're coherent rather than piles of parts, I like them better than the movie ones, but at the same time, they just don't work for me. Bulkhead is fine though, just looks like the Animated one in a "normal." style.

Of all the models we've seen, I really only like two or three. Shame.

was first posted and I totally skipped over it :/

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-02-2010, 09:37 AM
I didn't think anyone saw it, no one talked about Bulkhead till you posted it :p The vehicle mode pics are out there too but I was too lazy to post em.



Grappel. Ahaha.

Neg
10-02-2010, 09:42 AM
That's fucking clever, yo. Trillion times more creative than AUTOBOT GRAPPLE.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-02-2010, 01:42 PM
There's been some other fun cases of weird new spellings - Skid-Z instead of Skids in RiD for example. More recently, Breakdown toys are now released as "Brakedown!"

Grappel sounds like cologne to me.

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-06-2010, 07:34 AM
The Michael Bayifier...
THE MICHAEL BAYIFIER (http://bayifier.com/)

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/5032675-original.html)

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-08-2010, 09:16 AM
Good job. I guess I missed a few face pictures in my mass deletion of face pictures, lawl.

I had sort of decided I wouldn't post anymore but what the hell - a TakaraTomy listing of upcoming toys for "United" - their version of Generations, confirms Kup fo sho, Wheeljack fo sho, aaaand a Rumble/Frenzy two pack.

Neg
10-08-2010, 12:44 PM
I had sort of decided I wouldn't post anymore

I decide that more often than anyone will ever know. We see how it turns out.

Everybody seems to love their Wheeljack. I've never had an affinity for him, myself. It'll be interesting to see Kup, though!

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-08-2010, 09:07 PM
I just meant for this thread really, no big deal though

Penguin
10-09-2010, 02:24 PM
ktulu, even though i don't post much i still read this thread every day to see whats new

so uh

keep posting

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-10-2010, 05:13 AM



Penguin
10-10-2010, 02:32 PM
g2 beachcomber is my favourite

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-11-2010, 02:40 AM
Green bitches

Transformers Prime | Watch TV Shows and View TV Schedule | Hubworld (http://www.hubworld.com/transformers/shows/prime)

Apparently the render pictures have been updated some. There's not any huge difference in the way anyone looks though, but feel free to spool through.

Someone on TFW actually argued through several posts with me that Prime's Optimus (whaaaat) is not based on movie Prime. His primary point? No flames = nothing like BayPrime. Right. Totally.

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-11-2010, 05:57 AM
Fraggle Rock?!

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Deltora Quest? God I've never read any of those and my younger siblings have only read like 1 and 1/2 between them yet my mother keeps buying the damn things whenever she sees them at goodwill.

Marceline
10-12-2010, 12:50 AM
My mall put in a Toys R Us Express and they have Animated toys! ^^ Made me so happy to see them on the shelves again. I got to see Animated Roddy in person, which was awesome. They had a bunch of him too, if any of you guys are still after him. Founds Cybertronian Megatron too, but I didn't wind up grabbing him.

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-12-2010, 02:48 AM
Wish a TRU would open up closer to me. There's one that's like a 30 minute drive on the interstate, which isn't bad at all, but I still don't like going that far just for crap that might not be there. Thus, I'm still looking for Animated Rodimus and Ironhide. They were on TRU's website but never in stock :(

Which Cybertronian Megatron do you mean, Animated or WFC?

Marceline
10-12-2010, 02:52 AM
Next time I'm there I can grab Animated Rodimus for you if you'd like! If there's other stuff you're looking for I can check for that too, Animated toys were buy 2 get one free. Didn't see Ironhide, though. And I meant WFC Megatron, sorry. ; ;

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-12-2010, 03:01 AM
Ah ok. WFC Megs looks pretty nice overall but the arm articulation is kinda crummy and the waist doesn't swivel. It's not bad otherwise. The robot mode is the least compromised of the 4 figures. There's no weird back kibble or anything like that. The only problem is that the tank doesn't really look like anything.

I'd love a Rodimus hookup, but don't go out of your way! Other than Ironhide there aren't any other Animated toys I need.

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-12-2010, 06:17 AM
I don't think there's any Transformers out that I want right now Mandi.


Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-12-2010, 11:29 PM
New Lugnut finally revealed in clear photos:




Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-13-2010, 10:05 AM
A wild Kup appears!





And a further look at some other dudes you may or may have not seen:














Neg
10-13-2010, 10:25 AM
That's not bad at all, actually :D

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-13-2010, 10:40 AM
I'd assume his shoulders could come up more

Sackboy
10-13-2010, 12:03 PM
Kup, Jazz, Perceptor & Wreck-gar! <3

Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-13-2010, 12:09 PM
Found hurger versions of Perceptor, Jazz, and Wreck Gar's pictures





There's one of Kup too but it's grainy, just the other one blown up pretty much

Tom Toonami Tunes
10-13-2010, 05:36 PM




How they get the person shape out of the bike shape is surly deserving of commendation.

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How they get the person shape out of the bike shape is surly deserving of commendation.