I think the new toys look awesome!

Totally squeed over the battle axe. :D

Also I am definitely getting this:

Okay, new Robot Heroes: FUCK YES.

New classics: Not the characters I would have chosen, but awesome nonetheless.

Cartoon bots: Hello Beast Machines. >_>

And Soundwave having a guitar... ugh. That just wreaks of exactly the kind of shit I hate about Cartoon Network.

I think they look a lot better than Beast Machines :o

Did you watch the clip TK?

Nope. Is there more to see in it?

I don't know, they have that skinny/distorted look to them that really bugs me. Beast Wars figures, for the most part, had great proportions and looked sleek and cool, and Beast Machines sort of took that and oversleeked it to make things with crazy limbs, wacko proportions, and goofy looking faces, and to me this is a similar thing. =/

I think some of them, like Starscream, look cool aside from the silly elongated head. Others like the big fat green guy just look all-around retarded to me. I'm glad that others like it, it's just totally outside the realm of enjoyability to me.

The clip is the intro to the show and a brief clip from an episode

I kind of see what you're thinking about Beast Machines but I still think it's not that bad

I mean this is a Beast Machines motorcycle robot



compared to Prowl



The toys are way closer to the animation than the Beast Machines toys were as well.

But I know you mean the proportions are a lot like the really skinny proportions like Cheetor had and all, I get you

I don't get the giant chin thing myself. I think the designs themselves are good, like if drawn in a different style they'd probably look really cool.

The Decepticons are getting another classics triple changer and we still don't have Springer?!?!? I know he just got the Botcon exclusive repaint, but still. I've always wanted a decent Springer figure :(

I think at Botcon they said they want to put all of the triple changers into the Classics line

For now check out Energon Bulkhead. Not exactly Springer but very much an homage, and a great toy.

That would be great. I'd definitely entertain the notion of picking up Blitzwing (despite my earlier tank comment, I do have a soft spot for him). It's just a shame that my favorite is already there and I don't like his train mode *sigh*

I'm biased cos my first classic but I love the new Astrotrain

The train doesn't seem slightly misshapen to you? I'm not one of those who are complaining that it's a bullet train, I just think the back of it is funky beyond measure.

Tbh Ktulu, although I don't like the BM cycle drone or Prowl, I honestly think the cycle drone looks better. At least that is just a drone and its look is fairly appropriate to what it is. Prowl... looks like a robot douchebag. =/

O_O

That's cool man :o

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cVtVZP5tjWY

Another clip, will have to turn it up, audio is bad

It's neat to see more of how the animation looks, but it sucks you can't hear more of the voices. :(

Have people who actually saw it given much feedback on transformer forums? Voice stuff can really make or break a cartoon for me.

I am psyched about the toys no matter what though. I am a sucker for a cuter looking robot, and I love the weapons.

ON THE TOPIC OF TRANSFORMING, I LIKE HOW ODIN'S FORUM TRANSFORMED INTO GARAMOND'S

Me too buddy

Ndi the response so far, since the clips and toy pictures have come out, is largely positive. People are most digging how they seem to have normal conversations with each other rather than the short/cold dialogue of previous series and the generous use of the transformation sound. Most negative reactions are mostly people simply not liking the designs

A classic~

I'm an old fan getting back into the series, haven't seen it in a long time, already seen some G1 eps and some of the Armada series (which I find exceptional compared to the original).

It's been a hell of a long time since I watched it. Used to have a few models.

In my opinion some of Armada is really poorly done, with terrible animation in some episodes and great animation in others for a really inconsistent look, a lot of really shitty translation issues such as characters frequently being referred to by the wrong name, and nasty animation errors such as Decepticons showing up with Autobot symbols. Also, it had some really great episodes but way too many that just focused on nothing but the kids, or just catching Mini-cons, hence a lot of people thinking it was more Pokemon at times than Transofrmers. Now, some of it's problems were also seen in G1, such as the inconsistent animation and strange animation glitches, but that was back in the mid 80s, the more current one should have had much better quality than it did.

Doesn't help that a majority of the toys were not up to current standards either in terms of articulation and paint application, the figures were lazily decoed and often unable to do important things like simply move their legs upwards. The focus was more on gimmicks such as hidden missile launchers than making the toys quality action figures. G1-esque you say? Again, I say this was 2002 and there was no excuse for it, back with G1 the level of quality on those toys was the same or better than the other toys out at the time.

Still, it is the best show in the Armada/Energon/Cybertron saga at least, and I bought all the damn toys anyway even though I didn't like most of em because Transformers are like crack to me :(

I'm not that far into it yet but I can understand it.

I've noticed the glitches and the cliches/gimmicks in the armada series. I agree with the some crap some good thing you said. Like most series, it takes a while to kick off. I'm going to get together some money and get the movie (the original one) sometime. I can't remember much of it, I was only a little kid when it was on TV. (i'm only 17) I was basically exposed to the reruns of the official series and if lucky the movie. Those days are long gone though. Nothing but shite on TV. DVD, stream or download is where I get entertainment now.

Sorry for ranting on but it has to be done. I only had a G2 Optimus figure and some more from G1, no idea where they all went though. :<

I'm not a fan of the new movie's soundtrack, Lion's Theme was a hell of alot better than Black Lab's. Linkin Park... Need I say more? I'm going to see the movie tomorrow though. Good or bad it's the catalyst that's got me back into the series.

Wonder if I can snag some G1 DVDs sometime... Is it a sin to download? Got a tiny arse HDD, only 69GB with 14GB left.

My shitty post ends here.

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8198&start=0

Clearer shots of some TF Animated toys

Shoden I don't think there any G1 DVDs in production anymore, but you could probably find the box sets Rhino put out a few years ago cheap on eBay. Try used video stores like MovieStop as well. I believe rental places like Blockbuster also have used sections you can buy from. They shouldn't be too hard to track down.

There was a better version planned, with more extra material and better overall quality, but it was cancelled for whatever reason.

The most current special edition of the G1 movie is also now out of print, as the division of Sony that put it out went under. I'm sure given the popularity of Transformers at the moment it will be re-released through another division however. If you want the one they already released though now, again, eBay or used video stores. Just make sure you don't get any of the older versions, those aren't worth it as they aren't remastered and have almost no extra features.

Optimus with a battleaxe is pretty cool. Odd animation style aside, I'm willing to look beyond that and give it a chance if the did a good job with the story, dialog and production. The last couple of transformer series have been rather stale.

Well, that's a shame. I should get looking. I'm used to getting hard to find music DVDs around and about. Thanks for the info though.

Update: The Guitarist for Lion at the time when they did the Transformers theme for the movie was Doug Aldrich, who has played with DIO and Whitesnake. I never knew that, his style is completely different then than that is now.

I'm still mad that when I was born, God didn't give me a battle ax.

Me too man, me too

fun-house mirror ray lol

So true. It's basically a typical super hero cartoon meets transformers, that's what I've got from wikipedia. Something tells me that watching this when it comes out will be mentally painful.

Personally, I'm almost certain it will be the best TF cartoon since Beast Wars, at least in terms of story/writing.

Well. we'll have to wait and see in this case. Because unless it leaks we got to wait. Well I got to wait longer, much longer, I live in the UK.

I'm not sure why it'd premiere any later in the UK, I mean you guys do have Cartoon Network right?

It's a slightly different system for CN over here. different shows and airtimes. I don't really watch it very often. Could change, it could come earlier. I dunno. I need to check sometime, last time I touched a TV with CN on it was a year or 2 back.

No matter what I'm sure you can find the episodes online pretty much immediately after they air in the US via torrent

that's pretty much why I stopped watching TV. Yay for torrents and streams.

I'll only watch one episode to see how much it pains me.

And if you happen to like it?

I wont. I've been wanting to see a continuation of the original cannon for some time now. Never will + the animation I totaly dislike. In my mind those aren't Transformers but robots that transform.

I wont.

Somehow I believe if you end up liking it, you still wont tell us. :p

What, i'm a lier str8? Not all the time and in this case, definately not! If they don't look something like this:




They aren't what I want to see. Sorry for being a pooper.

I wont. I've been wanting to see a continuation of the original cannon for some time now. Never will + the animation I totaly dislike. In my mind those aren't Transformers but robots that transform.

At this point a direct continuation from the show that ended in 1987 is not happening. If you like those exact versions of the characters I suggest reading the current comic books to satisfy your desire for further adventures with them.

About the new show: Did you watch the clip of the actual animation before deciding you don't like it?

May seem like a dumb question, but a lot of people are judging the animation based on designs alone.

About the new show: Did you watch the clip of the actual animation before deciding you don't like it?

May seem like a dumb question, but a lot of people are judging the animation based on designs alone.

I've seen the animation and as I said before, I totaly dislike that WB-ish art. It's kind of comical and for the kids, with those soft, curved lines. Transformers are not supposed to be soft n' curved, Ktulu!


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/AtomEl/Transformers/optimusprime2-anim.gif

Transformers, as advertisement for a mainstream toy line, has always been primarily, as you say, for the kids

Anyway, happy birthday

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/08/gigantic_optimus_prime_birthda.html

I bet the cake is chocolate, look what I found!

At this point a direct continuation from the show that ended in 1987 is not happening. If you like those exact versions of the characters I suggest reading the current comic books to satisfy your desire for further adventures with them.

They're only exact in appearance. A lot of them have very different personalities.

They're only exact in appearance. A lot of them have very different personalities.

Just saying that's the closest he's ever going to get, especially since he won't accept/give a chance to any non-G1 Transformer series. You could say, judging from the old cartoon anyway, most of the characters had fairly unexplored personalities anyway, as there were just so many of them. There was definitely enough there to provide a lot of great, memorable characters, but because more kept coming and coming we only got to really know a few of them really well. The comics have always kind of explored things further, Grimlock being leader worthy and very intelligent aside his jumbled speech for example, rather than just goofy comic relief.

Anyway, you seem to actually admire a current TF toy there Atom, bewildering. It's ok to you that they dared change Shockwave from a laser gun into a car...and that, oh god, they didn't even name him Shockwave?

He probably doesn't know about the name thing. :P

I don't think Atom's really being irrational. Sometimes you love the original version of something too much to like alternate forms of it and that's fine.

I don't care if people don't like things, so long as they give them a fair chance first. It just reminds me of the whole NEW SUCKS, OLD IS BETTER attitude with so many things, and I have a real problem with it. Sometimes it's true, but it isn't a rule, often times new versions of things do have their own merit, but so few people will give it a chance as if it'd be some betrayal to their love of the old version.

I don't know if it's true Atom isn't giving it a fair chance though. He knows what he wants to see and this series clearly isn't it, so I'd say that's a fair chance in itself.

I'm talking in general, not just about tf animated. It's not even out for anyone to have given it a chance anyway

The new animated series just rapes the classical TF image IMO, I mean come on When I think TF I will always think.

That's just a sad way to think of the Transformers, Smarties :p

I'd honestly change my name to Rodimus if I did that sort of thing, but I'll just settle for a couple "you don't have time to deal with that, right now" jokes :D

Everyone knows that ultra magnus is the rightful leader, the matrix uh, er.... malfunctioned, what kind of name is rodimus? Ultra magnimus ftw.

Boy did I walk into the wrong conversation here. Anyway, the new Transformers, any word on the final set of Transformers that will premier on the first episode or is the 5 Current Autobots and 5 current Decpticons displayed in that poster it?

LOL, I made you an ava, Smarties

Aww man I already made one nice job tough.

That should read, "I cropped you an ava." I appreciate the compliment, nonetheless.

Barring their subject, your new diggs are very nice Smarties :D

Boy did I walk into the wrong conversation here. Anyway, the new Transformers, any word on the final set of Transformers that will premier on the first episode or is the 5 Current Autobots and 5 current Decpticons displayed in that poster it?

Probably just those 5 at first. I don't know if all the Decepticons will be in the first episode or not, it seems they're more of a looming background threat this time around

I find the sig a bit busy but thanks.

Ultra Magnus is a dick.

I watched The Death of Ultra Magnus today, and even though it was to Sixshot and he's a "Ninja Consultant," it still wasn't very satisfying.

Hey wtf, Ultra magnus is a legend, I mean He was way cooler than optimus and hot Rod having sodomy, using the matrix as cyber lube,

I'd make a Rodimus, Springer, Arcee joke, but I really don't think that kind of humor belongs in this thread :/

Let's agree to disagree since we won't ever win each other over. I just wanted to make a few cracks about Magnus, not harass you the entire time you'll wear the mantle. I did kinda predict Mark bringing back that quote, though :p

I mean anyone who can merge with optimus Prime is Fucking ok in my book.

And of course there's the whole thing about him being Prime's brother in certain theories/continuities. I will admit that I much prefer the "traditional" Magnus to white Prime re-paints. I mean, I understand the rationale but it isn't very satisfying from a toy perspective, is it?

Just noticed the pic you added, I've seen that toy in action and it did look pretty sweet.

Mm-hmm :nod:

Omega Prime/God-Fire Convoy is a brilliant toy





The Japanese TRU exclusive version came with a giant fucking sword:



Consider that the robot is over 12 inches tall

honestly though the sword just looks stupid =/

The rest of the toy is quite fantastic looking though!

Sometimes you love the original version of something too much to like alternate forms of it and that's fine.

That's fricking awesome Atom!

Looking at this photo reminds me of the Olympic Air Jordans. Maybe he should be wearing them.


Ultra Magnus is a dick.

honestly though the sword just looks stupid =/


Haha well it's cartoon accurate at least

MarvStraight that shall be your next photoshop assignment

imo



HAHAHA



When the 90 dollar toy looks worse than the 10 dollar one, something is fucking wrong

Holy crap Atom, that is amazing!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/pcs/optimus-prime-case-mod-almost-seven-feet-tall-eats-mac-minis-285789.php

Ok, so I click on that link and as I'm scrolling down I see on the right an ad for Washlet, try refreshing your browser if you don't see it the 1st or 2nd time to see what I mean.


On another topic, I'm thinking if I could work for Hasbro and pitch Transformers ideas, I would so make one that turns into a taco truck. He'd be called Hotsauce.

Hahaha. Washlet xD

Well, I don't have photoshop. Will this do?

yes

Will anyone else attempt to fill his shoes?

What he say his name was again?

GALVATRON!!!

on a scale of 1 to 10 it doesnt even rate the 1985 movie reigns supreme

on a scale of 1 to 10 it doesnt even rate the 1985 movie reigns supreme

What about the 1986 movie? I think it's better. :p

The 1985 one is the best. It is the one leading up the 1986 movie, the zany story of the Junkions. When Wreck-Gar wakes up one morning and discovers his favorite trash heap has fallen over, boy, is he miffed! Will Wreck-Gar figure out which of his Junkion allies has been tresspassing in his trash, and uncover a plot to turn the whole planet into a lollipop farm in the process? Find out this summer... of 1985!

Megatron finds this all very amusing.

Megatron is such a gangsta.

By Buzzbeak at TFW

They turned Rumble and Frenzy into GIMPS! :shock:
lol :p

The guy who does the voice for optimus primal is better than peter cullen.

FUCK YOU!

FUCK YOU!

Just let him have his opinion :o

Blasphemic opinions really can't be helped. Tbh I personally liked Gary Chalk's style for Optimus Prime in the Armada series almost as much as Peter Cullen's.

Wow, I guess I haven't seen Transformers in a long time, I didn't know there was a difference between the voices of Optimus G1 and Optimus Primal, unless you were talking about the Anime Beast Wars?

Of so: TAR AND FEATHER!!! RIDE'EM OUTTA TOWN ON A RAIL!!!

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. We all know I'm full of controversial ones. But, when I read that I got the greatest visual of Smarties dropkicking that guy in the throat.

I LOL'D very hard.

I know, just felt like putting that in.

Wow, I guess I haven't seen Transformers in a long time, I didn't know there was a difference between the voices of Optimus G1 and Optimus Primal, unless you were talking about the Anime Beast Wars?


The current movie is the first time Cullen has played Optimus since the end of the G1 cartoon.

In Beast Wars/Beast Machines, Optimus Primal was played by Gary Chalk.

In Robots in Disguise, it was done by Neil Kaplan, in a G1-esque performance

Gary Chalk returned as Optimus, doing an actual Prime for the first time, with Armada, and continued with the role through Energon and Cybertron

Now in TF Animated David Kaye, the voice of Megatron in all shows Gary Chalk was an Optimus, is playing the Autobot lead

HUR

So Classics Roddy arrived at my door recently. I have to say I'm very pleased. The only complaint I have is one of the same faults of the G1 figure: The canopy/spoiler section doesn't attach to anything in robot mode and consequently moves around if bumped. Minor annoyance at best.

I love that there is almost no "robot kibble" on the underside of the alt mode, to borrow a term from Beta at TF Wire. Plus, for once I don't feel like the spring-loaded weapon is superfluous. Rocket engine in alt mode, jet pack in robot mode. All I can say is w00t.

I'm definitely going to pick up Tits Roddy in the next couple of weeks.

Saw the film today, thought it was very enjoyable, despite my doubts.

I never took much interest in the cartoon but the film looks cool

Titanium Roddy is nowhere near as good as the Classics Hot Rod unfortunately. Looks fairly good but the proportions and articulation just aren't as good at all. Worth owning though.

Is Beta at TFWire really the originator of the 'kibble' term? I mean that's been used a lot for years, since Beast Wars started coming out

I knew you were going to ask that :D

I'll make it explicit, I first heard that term from Beta. Remember there's an 18 year gap in my fandom :o

Just wondered, for all I know it could've been that guy to originate it

I doubt it, but he is the first person I heard use it. I was giving credit where I could, not trying to say he was the originator. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I enjoy Beta as a reviewer, if for no other reason than he's willing to get peeved during his reviews and I find it funny and honest. MatrixPrime is meticulous, and the one I turn to when I want to see complete transformations, but honestly I find him rather banal. Silverbolt is my favorite, because I feel like I'm getting crash courses on the history of each character. He's great about bringing in info from sources other than the shows, specifically the comics.

Plus he's got an energy and liveliness that Beta and Prime almost completely lack.

Titanium Roddy is nowhere near as good as the Classics Hot Rod unfortunately. Looks fairly good but the proportions and articulation just aren't as good at all. Worth owning though.

Myself, I think Titanium Rodimus is a bit better for looking at, but all the above points are true. Classics Rodimus annoys me just a bit because of the articulation on the arms and how limited it is, but overall it's very well made.

Is Matrix Prime the one that says "like so" through the whole review?

I've been watching a lot of reviews on youtube and most of them are really pointless to me. They show off the toy and the transformation, and that's good for people, but you get hardly any opinion on the toy from most of the reviewers. It's kind of like "here's the toy, I'll transform him for you, and yeah, I give it 8 out of 10!"

WHY do you give it 8 out of 10, what do you not like, what are some of the stand out details in vehicle mode, what homages to old toys are there, etc you know

That isn't MatrixPrime. He's the one who sits behind the camera and all you see is his hands. He spends about 4 minutes going on about colors (Gah!) but he does show you entire transformations. He does talk about what he doesn't like, very explicitely. Beta is similar, but he's been known to get exasperated with toys and like I said before, it at least feels somewhat honest. Silverbolt will show you simple transformations but usually transforms stuff while he's talking.

So, the three I mentioned all have strengths and weaknesses. If I'm deciding to purchase as toy, it's Prime all the way. If I want a history lesson, which I really need these days, it's Silverbolt as I find him horribly funny and agreeable.

MatrixPrime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCVps0ryGis) doing Tits Roddy, so yeah I've seen some of the faults.

Beta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUqNlsp29Ec) calling movie Megs a mess :p

Silverbolt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FejLXkbYt6g) doing his thing for almost 20 minutes o_O

Also, I have to say how much I loathe this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Mb_2SEqqo&mode=related&search=) guy. I'd love to be in that room. Never want to see a review conducted in it :mad: Buy the complete version of the software, or figure out how to get that off the screen! There are tons of other reviewers, but those are the 3 I usually watch.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Me8sctGZuT8

It says video uploaded by Matrix Prime, if he did it, that's the one I was talking about (and that means YOU LIE). He says "like so" during the entire transformation process a million times. I've seen the same on his other videos also. I think it's hilarious

And yes, to me some of his interviews leave me wishing he'd give a few more opinions, but I guess I just haven't watched enough of them if you say he does go into that.

The worst guy guilty of taking 9 minutes to pretty much say "here is the toy. I like it" IMO is this guy (http://youtube.com/user/DCompose). He seems like a nice, cool guy and all but the reviews are totally lacking in any reasoning for however he rates the toy. He just shows it off and says it's cool.

Anyway I've never actually read/watched a review or whatever to determine whether or not I'll buy anything so it doesn't matter if I come across one that isn't deep enough, but these are just observations I've had. I watch this stuff on youtube now and then when I'm bored, and can't help but think a lot of them could be more interesting or more in depth. There's one English guy that does them and though he has a horrible camera he's got a lot of personality and does much more than just show off transformations and all that, he actually goes into character history and will be pretty direct about whatever he doesn't like and overall they're some of the more interesting reviews because there's a more human aspect to them, they're conversational almost.

Oh shit, you're right. I DO LIE. For some reason I thought you meant someone saying "this is like, blah blah blah, sooooo." Prime does say "like so" everytime he moves a piece. Guess I'm just habituated to it :/

DCompose annoys me because he usually insists on playing music when he isn't mic-ed very well to begin with.

Other kinds of reviews I really don't like are when you see the guy open it for the first time and just give a haphazard review on the fly. I think DCompose has done that, his MP Megs review was like that.

Worst one of this nature that I've seen though is Classics Mirage by Zac Shipley from Powet.TV (http://youtube.com/watch?v=m2_HpdfMkpQ). Holy shit, such a waste of time. He's an ok guy and all, and some of his other reviews aren't too terrible, but this is the most rushed and unhelpful review I've seen personally.

MAYBE I'M TOO HARD ON THESE I don't know

I think you have a right to be hard on them. Especially that one. I hadn't seen that, and I'm surprised it a.)got posted, b.) got solid reviews. Far away from the camera, to boot. Quite a shame, almost treated it as if it was work :o

I've seen several reviewers from Powet and the only one I'm impressed with is Crazy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HuzQ8pdu2mM&mode=related&search=). He's always come off as prepared and professional, to me.

Yes I agree with you, Crazy is pretty good and he's quite impressively adept at transforming the toys in a manner that doesn't take way too long and is still completely visible by the camera as well. He posts at TFW2005 now and then (Shipley does as well) and is a pretty decent guy

TK: By the way, 6 inch Titaniums are showing up at Target stores again. If you wanted Magnus despite his arms and you do have a Target around, check it out. The Target here unfortunately only had Starscream and he's way down the list on ones I want so I passed.

I might check that out actually. I did intend to get a Magnus at some point, I was just assuming I'd have to order it.

I'm kinda pissed off because today I took a random trip to Toys Us and found War Within Prime and Megatron. What sucked was it looked like it was purchased, opened, re-taped and returned. I wanted a fresh one to keep sealed so nobody can get there meat-hooks on the alternate cover comic.

Sentinel Prime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_Prime)





At the time of his death he was not in possession of the matrix.

I'm kinda pissed off because today I took a random trip to Toys Us and found War Within Prime and Megatron. What sucked was it looked like it was purchased, opened, re-taped and returned. I wanted a fresh one to keep sealed so nobody can get there meat-hooks on the alternate cover comic.

Wish I could find that. Sorry it had been returned and all that

TK if you find two Magnuses and can afford it, if you pick up one for me I'll reimburse you completely of course

The alt mode is just so damn sexy that I'm thinking of ordering it and make it battle my titanium Rodimus.

Wish I could find that. Sorry it had been returned and all that

TK if you find two Magnuses and can afford it, if you pick up one for me I'll reimburse you completely of course

I'll keep it in mind. I'm pretty low on moneys at the moment though so it could be some time before I am in the market for any Magnuses and they'll probably be gone... I never saw a single Rodimus in any of the stores around here so I'm dubious about Magnus. But I will have a look eventually I expect.

The alt mode is just so damn sexy that I'm thinking of ordering it and make it battle my titanium Rodimus.



They still have them in stock on hasbrotoyshop.com. If you get one, get it now from there so as not to pay a bloated price from some jackass on eBay or something.

I have one :D Looks a lot cooler than I thought it would. I personally hate the idea of Menasor just being a black Rodimus but it really does look nice, especially in the package

TK if I happen to find two Magnuses I'll get one for you and you could pay me back whenever. I'm doubting my Target will get any though, but we'll see

K. We will look for magnuses for each other then. It is a deal!

If I knew the Titaniums would end being so hard to find, I would've bought the ones I did actually see. The only one I ever saw more than once was Thundercracker I believe. I never even saw a WW Prime in stores if I recall correctly

Still passed on that damn Starscream the other day though, haha. It just doesn't look right to me. I picked it up and considered it but just looking at it...don't know, didn't feel the urge to get it

I think Starscream is pretty ugly, personally. Definitely didn't want one.

It looks ok as Thundercracker but the Starscream colors just don't work on it

In the WW comics the three seekers had somewhat different designs from each other anyway, I guess maybe that's it, plus the ugly grey head

I gave ratchet some shoes. :p

Make him hold the sai and he will be complete

I would if they weren't so heavy.

Anywho, I've never heard of Fallen, but he was so ass-kickingly sexy looking I had to pick him up. I also like the flat, black metal finish on him. The flash of the camera made him a little shinny though.

Ah damn it, Target? Nice find, I wish I could find him. Not the one I want the most but I would definitely buy one if I saw it.

The Fallen is from The War Within comics, supposed to be one of the original handful of Transformers

I'm even tempted to not open it. Ok, I'm going to Wal-mart now to search for anything new. I'll give you an update when I get back.

Am I right that you found him at Target?

Not opening it would be a good decision IMO - Titaniums are pretty much just made to stand in robot mode anyway

Nothing new at Wal-mart, oh well. Yeah, I got it at Target. You're good. And I'm so tempted to also open it, but I'll keep him sealed.

It wasn't meant as an exclusive but for some reason Target is the only store to order any Titaniums recently

There was a TRU exclusive two pack with WW Megs and Optimus recently that hardly anyone could find for instance. Titaniums really failed miserably

I still have the titanium megs and he sucks ass. the ww megs looks way better.

Still has some typical Titanium crappiness to him (mostly in odd proportions, tiny head, tiny forearms and such) but definitely appears to knock the first Megs out of the water

FALLEN forgot his real name long ago. It didn't matter. It was a name given to him by his creator - the one he betrayed. It was a relic of the time before he had come to see the truth. The truth of UNICRON.

Created as one of the original 13 TRANSFORMERS to serve as a protector of CYBERTRON, FALLEN has always been a creature of chaos and degradation. His original purpose was to oversee the stately running down of the universal clock, the ordered tick of universal balance from energy to entropy, the slow and total collapse that heralds a new creation - for what are creation and life without dissolution and death? He knew his purpose only too well, and became obsessed with the end of all things. Intrigued by the dark sciences, he came in contact with UNICRON, and fell under the evil planet's thrall.

He exists now for one purpose alone: the destruction of the Seal of Primus and the release of UNICRON into the universe. He lives only so that one day he might witness the last star in the universe wink out, and eternal ending fall.

That's deep, man.

He's not a bad character really

A lot of Wal-Marts have been restocked with all kinds of stuff, from Alternators to Cybertron to Classics. I guess it's either stuff that was sitting around warehouses, or Hasbro shipping out old stock to try and fill the demand given the popularity of the movie. There's a couple of Alternators and Cybertron figures I missed that I wanted, I wonder if they'll turn up around here?

Checked my Wal-Marts and they did have the restock of old stuff. The first only had 20th Prime, Classics Megs Vs. Optimus, Cybertron Quickmix, Soundwave, and Dark Crumplezone, and some Cybertron mini-cons, all of which I had. The second however had those plus Classics deluxes, Cybertron Primus, and some Alternators. I picked up Alt. Rollbar and Sunstreaker as I'd missed them before, everything else I already had, but it's pretty cool that there's some old stock back in. Maybe you guys can find something different at your local Wal-Marts.

Hmm. Maybe I'll check that out tomorrow when I get paid.

Yay :D I can't wait for the Classics versions of these guys. Will probably be even better than these

I need better lighting :o

The Lion version of The Transformers theme is actually pretty good, I watched the entire credits on the movie just to listen to that.

Lending the DVD off a mate.
I was fairly surprised that Doug Aldrich of Dio and Whitesnake was the guitarist of the band at the time. I pretty much think the 80's movie's soundtrack beats the shit out the LA new movie's soundtrack by miles.

LINKIN PARK!? Gah, instant fail for the soundtrack IMO.

The actual score of the movie was decent at least. The rock songs and such didn't feature in the film very much. It's just another random generic "soundtrack" with a bunch of songs that have hardly anything to do with the movie.

Anyway, SS bros car modes for good measure



Looks like Streaker's right mirror was out of place :(

How Stan Bush isn't still a superstar to this day is beyond me. I almost bought the s/t the other day. I think I will now.

YOU GOT THE TOUCH!

It wasn't really all half bad, Stan Bush's stuff at least, reminds me of a young Joe Lynn Turner for some odd reason.

I really like the old movie score (the instrumental score aside from all the rock songs)- much cooler than DiCola's work on Rocky IV imo

There's only a few themes though, most of the songs on the score soundtrack sound a lot alike. It's cool though, it was a Botcon 97 exclusive, but not hard to find on eBay these days, or you know...p2p networks

I have the old rock soundtrack on CD as well, they still sold it in Media Play (same company as Sam Goody/Suncoast) all the way until it closed in 04 or 05. I'm not sure if it was still in print somehow or what, but they always had copies.

The Touch and Dare are honestly worth it, to me. Besides it was really cheap at Best Buy.

I never saw it at Best Buy, even when I was working there. But if it's cheap and still there, grab it, good for the collection, good for nostalgia, and it has fucking Weird Al...come on!

Weird Al ftw.

Lion actually sounded like a decent band on the soundtrack although they only did the theme. The Singer was good. The band split soon after though.

Stan Bush really should of become a big idle with songs like that, it's the correct lyrical material to get him further up there than he currently is.

The video for The Touch was totally ridiculous, that sure didn't help any

Most videos in the 80's were incredibly lame.

His was worse

And there were plenty of decent videos back then :(

Speaking of which, it's Madonna's Birthday, innit?

Yes it is

Weird Al ftw.

Lion actually sounded like a decent band on the soundtrack although they only did the theme. The Singer was good. The band split soon after though.

Stan Bush really should of become a big idle with songs like that, it's the correct lyrical material to get him further up there than he currently is.

I might be reading this wrong, but are you actually suggesting that Stan Bush's lyrics of are high quality? X_X

no, not that. The lyrical material is aimed towards a pop audience and for that they're pretty good. any otherwise they suck.

I always liked the song "Dare" much more than the Touch, I guess because of the crazy DiCola breakdown in the middle of it where it ceases to be all things Bush and becomes crazy electronic rock

I think they use that bit in the movie when Blitzwing says "come on down, Autobrat" then Hot Rod jumps and Daniel's screaming and OH GOD IT'S EXCITING

no, not that. The lyrical material is aimed towards a pop audience and for that they're pretty good. any otherwise they suck.

Who says pop song lyrics have to be bad? I think his lyrics are awful period. =/ Plenty of pop artists are capable of writing good words and there's really no excuse for trying to have a pop star career if you can't.

I don't understand why exactly he "should" have been a bigger star or anything, he was one of a million inspirational rock singers, nothing particularly "special." Of course, I don't wish lack of success upon anyone and I'm sorry for him that his biggest success was a very low profile theatrical toy ad, but I just don't see what was there to separate him from all the other similar acts back then, something to say "this guy should have been huge"

About the lyrics however: Judging from recent hit songs such as "My Humps" though, it's obvious lyric quality doesn't always really mean much :o

Oh, I agree. Not in terms of financial success, anyway.

And I can even get a kick out of a song with terrible lyrics. I'm just sayin'.

It usually doesn't matter tooooo much to me, but there are a few extremes I can't stand:

Power metal songs about vikings, warriors, or how "metal" the band is

Death metal songs discussing in great dictionary and encyclopedia-like detail how someone is being ripped apart, mutilated, going to hell, or experiencing whatever horrific occurance

Country songs about almost anything. My mom used to listen to country and some of the lyrics were really cringe worthy. IT'S ALRIGHT, TO HAVE A LITTLE TITTY. (That's not real)

Rock songs about sex and partying

Otherwise (I think I covered all the bothers me, don't know), bad lyrics can be good luls

I was being goofy when I said he should still be a big star, jftr.

But in the context of the movie, I quite fancy the songs. I've never really thought of them outside the context of it, but yeah they'd probably be pretty damn silly.

2nd page is not where this belongs :o

SO - was just on youtube and tried to comment on a MatrixPrime video but the site tells me NO DICE because he's blocked me

I did a "like so" count on maybe two videos and the guy blocks me? Talk about no sense of humor

That......that's pretty prickish of him. You're trying to help him change his behavior by providing him feedback and he does that. Lame.

I guess he has an ego about how he does his reviews or something? Don't know. It's not a big deal, I'm rather amused he actually got mad enough to block me just because I brought up something so obvious

BUMPAGE



I suppose this is Megatron's Earth mode, much more G1-esque than I figured it'd be. Plus, the only place the proportions are particularly crazy are the tiny thighs, otherwise it looks fairly solid, particularly compared to other designs we've seen so far.

BUMPAGE



I suppose this is Megatron's Earth mode, much more G1-esque than I figured it'd be

Looks like the shredder.
































Kinda.





























Animation style reminds me of the new teenage mutqant ninja turtles cartoon.

So Megs is such a bad mo-fo, all he needs is a sword?

Don't know, he has a cannon in his Cybertronian form, not sure why it'd disappear

I just noticed what the series is called.

So... they are going to... animate... the series now?

Like... a cartoon?

I don't like the name very much, it feels like they're catering to the crowd that didn't know what the hell Transformers was before the current movie, but whatever



That Megs design is kinda reminiscent of Super Megatron here eh? Check out the bottom of the helmets for instance

I just noticed what the series is called.

So... they are going to... animate... the series now?

Like... a cartoon?

That's unheard of! We must do something! :p




That Megs design is kinda reminiscent of Super Megatron here eh

Voltron would whoop his ass. :p

What is super megatron from?

Japanese manga at the tail end of G1 around 1991 or so called Battlestars or simply 'The Return of Convoy', it's the series Star Convoy (a resurrected and super-powered Optimus) comes from, the version of Convoy/Prime that Galaxy Force/Cybertron Prime is based on

Megs gets a further upgrade into ULTRA Megatron in that series:



Haha, at least they didn't just slap new colors on him and leave it at that

The megatron design looks better than the others so far, that's for sure. Not really saying much though. =/

The thing I'm impressed with about the toys so far from what we've seen is they have the same super-stylized look in robot mode, very cartoon accurate, and yet they still transform convincingly, very good engineering on them

Lookie what I found!



I also found Ultimate Bumblebee, but I was like "Meh". I would have also picked up Thundercracker, but I only had enough for 1.

Voltron would whoop his ass. :p

Agreed.

Also: OOOOOOH. Looks like I'm going to have to look for the re-colored Jazz, cause R.I.P. Autobot Jazz T_T

I also saw Ultimate Bumblebee, at Target, it certainly doesn't look like an 80 dollar toy, it's so plain looking

Mark be glad you found that, movie TFs are fucking hard as hell to track down. I'm glad you found it though rather than some scalper :(

gotta love Wal-Mart

Michael Bay has made some babyish rant about him not doing the sequel because Paramount is not planning to release the TF Movie on Blu-Ray (which does suck for Blu-Ray/PS3 owners but as the reason not to do the second movie?) This is not official that he's not doing the sequel, he's just freaking out. Apparently he "quit" Pearl Harbor 4 times in pre-production alone, so yeah, no indication of his role on the next TF movie at all, he's pretty much a big baby. It's on some message board you have to register to see though so can't give you the full quote, as I'm too lazy. I assume he's taking it so personally because perhaps there was supposed to be a cut for him in home release sales, and no blu-ray means he doesn't get as much money.

New Japanese G1 re-issues are on Wal-Mart.com:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6560506&siteID=3Wcr3nxHx1A-glW9klwjQbiNHeiTJuiOcA
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6560505&siteID=3Wcr3nxHx1A-glW9klwjQbiNHeiTJuiOcA
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6560504&siteID=3Wcr3nxHx1A-glW9klwjQbiNHeiTJuiOcA
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=6560503&siteID=3Wcr3nxHx1A-glW9klwjQbiNHeiTJuiOcA

Wonder if they'll hit stores? Would be nice to find some without the import prices (which are insane)

Cybertronian Megs from Animated has popped up on eBay:





Prototype/test shot - he isn't actually going to be blue

Popbox Collectibles is releasing a movie allspark replica made of die-cast:



Will be the size of a Rubik's cube and will sell for 60 dollars. Too much for me.

60 cube is it made of platinum/Titanium, or something?

They should leave the Megs blue. It look better than it probably would in gray.

60 cube is it made of platinum/Titanium, or something?

Read my post and you'll know



:(

well i saw the movie and it was ok i love the 1985 one

Michael Bay has made some babyish rant about him not doing the sequel because Paramount is not planning to release the TF Movie on Blu-Ray (which does suck for Blu-Ray/PS3 owners but as the reason not to do the second movie?) This is not official that he's not doing the sequel, he's just freaking out. Apparently he "quit" Pearl Harbor 4 times in pre-production alone, so yeah, no indication of his role on the next TF movie at all, he's pretty much a big baby. It's on some message board you have to register to see though so can't give you the full quote, as I'm too lazy. I assume he's taking it so personally because perhaps there was supposed to be a cut for him in home release sales, and no blu-ray means he doesn't get as much money.

Damnit. I want it on Blu-ray. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_robot-mad.gif

Yeah, I know it sucks for people that want it on Blu-Ray, maybe Paramount will change their minds

Chris, do you have $300M I can barrow so that I can buy Paramount off to go Blu-ray exclusive?

Maybe, let me check my other pants

For now, let's buy random movies to get beach balls

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=4096&search_query=transformers+Beach+Ball&Continue.x=0&Continue.y=0&Continue=Find&ic=24_0&siteID=3Wcr3nxHx1A-glW9klwjQbiNHeiTJuiOcA

Well, I already have Zoolander. The only other movies I would get would be Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Tomb Raider. A pair of balls for me!

Ferris is easily the best on the list

Michael Bay has already retracted his earlier statements:

" Last night at dinner I was having dinner with three Blu-Ray owners, they were pissed about no Transformers Blu-Ray and I drank the kool aid hook line and sinker. So at 1:30 in the morning I posted - nothing good ever comes out of early am posts mind you - I over reacted. I heard where Paramount is coming from and the future of HD and players that will be close to the $200 mark which is the magic number. I like what I heard.

As a director, I'm all about people seeing films in the best quality possible, and I saw and heard firsthand people upset about a corporate decision.

So today I saw 300 on HD, it rocks!

So I think I might be back on to do Transformers 2!

Michael Bay"

I guess he won't be fighting for blu-ray then

Dammit. Maybe next time he quits, they'll have enough time to attach another director and we'll actually get a decent movie.

He still isn't hired officially anyway, we have to wait and see. I think the only people officially signed on are still Shia Labeouf, Megan Fox, and Peter Cullen right now.

I'd really love to see the reins handed to a director like Zemeckis, personally.

I'm having trouble thinking of my ideal TF director. It has to be someone used to filming for the intention of heavy special effects and gets good performances from actors, as well as being able to shoot good coverage of scenes and able to handle action and battle scenes well, but most importantly - it has to be someone that respects the source material, not just someone that sees dollar signs and has the "HMM WHAT CAN I CHANGE" attitude. That attitude is Brett Ratner doing the first X-Men movie you know? Change is fine, but change for the sake of change, no faith in the original material to "work on screen" and all that...not so great.

Bay's original vision for the TF movie had almost nothing to do with Transformers, they were pretty much going to be mindless drones...just a random alien invasion movie. Only through the insistence of Hasbro and the writers did we still get something with at least a somewhat proper spirit, despite it still mostly being a "the army vs. Decepticons" extravaganza. With more money next time and the first being a success, if Bay stays on he'll probably be able to get away with even more of his own ideas the next time and the TF spirit could be even further removed. Again...change is expected, change is welcome, but not when it's just for the hell of it, it has to still fit within a certain vibe.

Blah and blah



Pretty much what every boy's toy aisle in America looks like right now

I've been to 3 targets already and they look EXACTLY like that.

Before the movie came out all the toys were in heavy supply but ever since it debuted they've been selling out like crazy. I wonder if it's a matter of Hasbro not producing enough? I've heard stores didn't order very much either since other movie lines weren't moving quick enough, i.e. Spidey 3 and Pirates figures.

This is why I still only have 3 versions of Jazz and Prime. It's okay, though. Tits Roddy is more important to me, anyway. No, I don't have him yet, I had to buy some VC points instead.

I'd really love to see the reins handed to a director like Zemeckis, personally.

This would be fantastic. Period. No hoping and praying it'll be done properly.

No it isn't me :(

Ktulu we all know that is hulk hogan

Hulk: "Whatch ya gonna do when me and my 24 inch turd crap over you?!" *snarl!* *purrrrrrp!*:p

Oh come on



Do the Dew

Official Titanium War Within Grimlock pics from Don Figueroa









Still has some of the typical Titanium shittiness to it IMO (proportions - tiny forearms, giant crotch) but really, overall it looks damn good and would be a definite must buy for me. No idea if it's going to come out or not though unfortunately, the whole Titanium thing is weird - at Botcon Hasbro said the line was definitely cancelled, but then they started showing up at Target again, in some cases the newer ones (such as Mark's Fallen)...no one really knows what the fuck the deal is

It looks alright. I don't think I'd buy it though what with the off proportions and the fact that I don't care much about War Within.

It has the "ooooh rare" factor going for it too, it'd probably be something I'd buy and just keep packaged - provided it came out, and I was lucky enough to see one.

Those two proportion goofs really are annoying though - aside from that it's really close to Don's design

I just saw the movie.
































What the hell?

If he didn't want Megatron to be a gun because of the crazy size shifting then why did the allspark do it?

I just saw the movie.


Lol, good point.































What the hell?

If he didn't want Megatron to be a gun because of the crazy size shifting then why did the allspark do it?

http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=11482

Oh man, that guy is gonna be worth shit loads

I picked up 2 G1 deco movie Jazz and 1 G1 deco Starscream. They're pretty nice.

Pix or it didn't happen, plx :)

Pix or it didn't happen, plx :)

And I'm watching Scrubs.

Yay, Elliott!

I want that Jazz, but I have not looked.

^^ I have 2.

I can see dat.

Oh.

I'm now thinking of going to the Target closer to my apt. to see if they have anything different. And if anyone can find a deluxe '08 concept Bumblebee and really wants my G1 Jazz, I'm willing to trade.

Word 'round the interbutts has it that Kohl's is a good place to look for Transformers these days, just letting you guys know

Kohl's sells action figures? (and I say action figures, not toys, because I'm a grown man.)

Apparently they do! Not sure if it's all of em though, but hey, it's worth a look. Lots of people have picked up their 08 BB's there



Must be awesome to know you own a truly one of a kind piece like that

^^ Very awesome, but it bothers me they couldn't make the pipes chrome.

Hey Chris, I've been wanting G1 Soundwave, Lazerbeak and especially Ravage since forever. This a good place and price to order? (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS12882&mode=retail)

BBTS is reliable. The retail price was $35, so this is almost 10 more, plus shipping. My instinct would be to look for something cheaper, but I'm really a cheap ass, and at this point that might be unrealistic anyway.

I saw one for 31 BIN on eBay, but the shipping was 20 dollars :(

I think overall that'll probably be as good a deal as you can find for it at this point.

Hey, Ktulu. You were right about '08 Bumblebee being at Kohl's! So I went and guess what? I just missed it. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_robot-mad.gif

But I did pick up 2 RC's and I found titanium Cheetor at Target.

Why 2 Arcees?

Good find on the Cheetor.

Check out what arrived today for me:



:D

Sweet! Congratulations on Alt-Rod. I got 2 Arcee's just to keep one in the box. I might even keep Cheetor sealed, but the box is a little beat up. When I found G1 deco Jazz and Starscream, they also had WW Ultra Magnus, but the box was ripped open and the figure was broken, must have been a customer. What's making me mad in my search for '08 Bumblebee is I was just at 2 Targets yesterday. I get off work today at 5, ran to Kohl's and found Arcee, then I drove to 3 targets and they also just ran out of there stock of deluxe figures. They either had 1 or 2 left of Long Arm, that one blue Decepticon pick-up or Dreadwing.

How much are the deluxes at Kohl's?

There's been lots and lots more reports of the Titaniums at Targets. I need to check mine again, I might tomorrow, haven't really gone out and done much lately.

And you're going through what tons of collectors have gone through, toy hunting can get nuts. The crazy popularity of TFs right now just makes it tougher, not to mention people buying up every one on the shelf if they see lots of stock so they can sell them for high prices online :(

They have the deluxe figures for $12.99. Just a little more then most other places. I have my sister in Texas checking Kohl's tomorrow for me. Maybe she'll have some luck and find '08 B.

Edit: I gotta say that Arcee is worth a pick up. I'm looking at the bot mode and it's a damn sexy figure.

Awesome, Ktulu. I wish I was willing to spend the money on alternators Hot Rod.

I only spent 25 and got free shipping. If I had to pay the hellish prices on eBay and such, I wouldn't have him.

I went to Target today. The only Titanium they had was Scourge. I want him, but not that bad. I just left it there.

They had a lot of G1 Jazzes and Starscreams, I was surprised to see that. Didn't get them of course, I haven't bought any other movie toys, why start now?

I'd rather buy Dinococktimus Prime

I went to Kohl's today. They were ravaged as well. They had Barricade and Swindle but that would have just been spending money to spend money, and NO.

Dinococktimus Prime demands you discuss him

I saw the Barricade repaint and Dropkick at Wal-Mart today

Dinococktimus Prime demands you discuss him

He looks simultaneously pissed and sad. Like the guy working at the theme park who is made to wear the Barney costume.

UPDATE STYLEE: My Walmart was in ruins, but in the rubble I found 3 Rescue Ratchets. I snagged one and have to say I am pleased. The G1 color scheme is very soothing to mine eyes.

Guys, let's talk about Transformers :(

Went to Kohl's hoping to find an 08 Bee for trade purposes, but the only new one they had was Arcee. Still, other people are indeed finding the BB's there

Haha. I wanna do that with my MP prime.

Hello Kitty goes with, like, everything.

TK DO IT

Man, I'm making my first TF trade. I feel dirty. I'm trading reissue G1 Thundercracker for Alternators Optimus :( I tried to get the guy to trade me two toys for Thundercracker because he cost me a shit load more than this guy paid for Alt. Prime, but he said my logic was shit (in a nicer way) and offered me Alt. Prime and 5 bucks for my Thundercracker.

I agreed ultimately, because I feel...Thundercracker is a toy I just have sitting on my shelf, unopened, just having it to have it, whereas I will open up Alt. Prime and "enjoy" him a little more. Plus, just trading for him is cheaper than buying one on eBay, obviously

Still, I'm sad :(

When I can afford it I'll probably buy back a Thundercracker as soon as I see it for a good price

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuXirJeu9oY

Hey this is awesome, 18 minutes of Matrix Prime being a dick

I've only watched 3 minutes and I want to stop. I will press on, however. I shall see where this trainwreck leads.

I watched it all in sheer horror. I can't believe how much of a jerk he was throughout the whole thing, basically cutting down all of his subscribers the whole way through. Jackass.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=150455

A sad, sad tale about a boy and the toy he reluctantly let slip away :(

Honestly, he even looks like a dick.

Who the fuck videotapes himself responding to letters while wearing sunglasses?

Definitely even looks like a dick, I agree

Anyway - Look at what I finally found



Only one of each unfortunately. I'm about to be going back to Atlanta, I might try my luck there if anyone wants me to check for any toys, just tell me!

Sorry for the crappy picture, had terrible lighting options

http://club.tfclub.com/viewthread.php?tid=13618

^ He should have come with that to begin with

If you didn't get the the video, then you might as well quit watching them.

Not a bad idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuXirJeu9oY

Hey this is awesome, 18 minutes of Matrix Prime being a dickLMAO

This guy reminds me of Comic Book Guy!

I still laugh everytime I hear critical fanboys. lol

Luls at Matrix Prime

Soooo about Tit Ultra Magnus....I ALMOST wish I hadn't bought him now that I've opened him. I guess it'd be a cool display piece in the box, advice with Titaniums I gave to Mark that I should have followed with this guy - but as a functional toy out of the package, no! His legs fall apart easily, the vehicle mode doesn't fit together at all, there's a huge gap on the top of the vehicle and when you move it around to fix it the tires are no longer level, his shoulder cannons fall off with the slightest brush, and the gun can't fit into his hand very well. Then there's the big problem with the arms being so far back in robot mode, which I had hoped was his only problem. Boy was I off with that one :(

Eh, I love these damn things and I can't really say I totally regret getting him, but I did buy him at a time when I'm really low on money. Him being so suck doesn't make that feel any better. I'll keep him and maybe see if I can customize it a bit to work out the kinks, but uh, it's a shame Hasbro let something like this out into the world. It looks fine just sitting there, but you can't really pick it up and have fun with it at all. Not passable.

Again, like I said - best left in the package, and not worth a penny more than retail price.

Not sure if I'll even bother opening the other two now.

Between this and scalpers, no wonder people can't find one! (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=150573)

I'm related to a travel agent.....

Even though I'm totally against it, imagine stumbling onto that and having enough cash to buy every single fucking one. Given the prices they go for...you could make yourself a whole lot richer.

The guy that made the thread (who is generally a good guy) bought 10. I hope he's doing the right thing with them.

Anyway



Has been around for a few days but this proto image of Bulkhead is kinda neat. The toys look pretty nicely detailed and sculpted. I'm impressed how much they look like the crazy over-stylized designs. If only he wasn't so tubby...

With the huge arms and tiny legs he's kind of like a new version of Crumplezone. Jaw is similar too, hmm

I like it.
I don't know, but I've always liked the exaggerated, out-of-proportioned "big guy" characters.



Assholes!
I hate collectors-for-profit, who to take advantage of true fans.
But then again,
Those obsessive fanboys who must have everything at any price are the ones who actually fuck it up for everyone. So I guess they deserve it.

Oh well, You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't!

Ugh. I hate how silly animation styles are excuses to make ugly things with awful proportions. If something proportioned like this came out for any of the past TF series, people would bash it to hell, but I'm sure it will be deemed OK this time. It looks like his legs aren't even articulated! This is a huge step backward imo.

Well like I said, it's a lot like Cybertron Bulkhead, and I wouldn't say people bashed that one to hell

The figure is very well articulation also

I don't mind when some of them have weird ass proportions, it keeps them from all looking too much the same. To me, it keeps a better TF feel than some of the weird Beast Machines stuff.

it is better than some of the BM stuff but in my opinion it's generally on the same level. =/

I tried looking up Cybertron Bulkhead but couldn't find anything from Cybertron that was called Bulkhead. I found Energon Bulkhead though and if that's what you're talking about I totally disagree, as the proportions are not off on that figure, so I assume you must be talking about something I haven't seen.

His legs should be about three times as long as they are for the size of his chest and arms. I just really hate that whole goofy distorted cartoon network look I guess.

I made a typo - in the post I posted the picture in I said he looked liked Cyb. Crumplezone a lot, I meant to type that name in the previous post, sorry. Did not mean Energon Bulkhead at all.

Anyway, as for everyone deeming the look of the animated stuff OK, not really, a lot of people are hating it so far. Every TF line has been that way though, there's people that love it and people that hate it.

I don't think it's a step back per se because it has overly cartoon proportions, the designs still feel more TF-like than the movie ones, at least to me, and the engineering and sculpting to make the toys so accurate to the animation models is very well done.

Ah! that makes a lot of sense.

I still disagree then. Crumplezone did have fairly off proportions but I didn't think they were so exaggerated as to just look completely ridiculous (though I have never particularly liked Cyb Crumplezone either). It definitely isn't as exaggerated as this figure, whose legs are actually shorter than its torso.

I mean, it's worse than Fatty Prime, and you know how much flack that gets.

All I said was it's similarly proportioned to Crumplezone, not necessarily that the proportions are the same or exaggerated the same way - they both huge arms, tiny legs, and a big ass jaw. You disagree with that? :p

and Bulkhead is getting flack for being fat too man.

Updated my other post some