Greetings! Welcome everyone to the second thread for this now fairly long-running game, The General Final Fantasy Rumble. Welcome back to all the old hands!

<font color="red">If you're visiting for the first time, please familiarize yourself with the rules, which appear below the list of current entrants. If you've been around for a while, then a refresher couldn't hurt, but you're welcome to skip past these:</font>


Current Edition - Character Pairings - Round 2

Firion and Maria - Final Fantasy II - Childhood Friends (Going on to Round 3)
Cecil Harvey and Rosa Joanna Farrell - Final Fantasy IV - Married
Strago Magus and Relm Arrowny - Final Fantasy VI - Grandfather and Granddaughter (Eliminated in Round 1)
Celes Chere and Locke Cole - Final Fantasy VI - Lovers (Going on to Round 3)
Edgar Roni and Sabin Rene Figaro - Final Fantasy VI - Brothers (Going on to Round 3)
Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockhart - Final Fantasy VII - Childhood Friends (Going on to Round 3)
Cloud Strife and Aeris/th Gainsborough - Final Fantasy VII - Romantic
Cloud Strife and Sephiroth - Final Fantasy VII - War Buddies (Eliminated in Round 2)
Aeris/th Gainsborough and Sephiroth - Final Fantasy VII - Antagonists
Barrett Wallace and Marlene - Final Fantasy VII - Father and Adoptive Daughter (Eliminated in Round 2)
Nanaki and Bugenhagen - Final Fantasy VII - Grandfather and Adoptive Grandson (Going on to Round 3)
Reno and Rude - Final Fantasy VII - Partners (Going on to Round 3)
Elena and Tseng - Final Fantasy VII - Lovers
Scarlet and Heidegger - Final Fantasy VII - Coworkers (Going on to Round 3)
Squall Leonhart and Laguna Loire - Final Fantasy VIII - Son and Father (Eliminated in Round 2)
Squall Leonhart and Seifer Almasy - Final Fantasy VIII - Rivals (Eliminated in Round 2)
Zell Dincht and Seifer Almasy - Final Fantasy VIII - Rivals (Eliminated in Round 2)
Rinoa Heartilly and Seifer Almasy - Final Fantasy VIII - Formerly Dating
Laguna and Raine Loire - Final Fantasy VIII - Married (Going on to Round 3)
Fujin and Raijin - Final Fantasy VIII - Friends/Partners (Eliminated in Round 2)
Cid and Edea Kramer - Final Fantasy VIII - Married (Going on to Round 3)
Biggs and Wedge - Final Fantasy VIII - Comrades (Going on to Round 3)
Marcus and Blank - Final Fantasy IX - "Brothers" (Eliminated in Round 2)
Zidane Tribal and Garnet Til Alexandros - Final Fantasy IX - Married (Going on to Round 3)
Queen Brahne and Garnet Til Alexandros - Final Fantasy IX - Mother and Adoptive Daughter
Garland and Kuja - Final Fantasy IX - Creator and Creation (Eliminated in Round 2)
Biran and Yenke - Final Fantasy X - Friends (Eliminated in Round 2)
Wakka and Lulu - Final Fantasy X-2 - Husband and Wife (Eliminated in Round 2)
Brother and Buddy - Final Fantasy X-2 - Best Friends (Eliminated in Round 2)
Basch fon Ronsenburg and Reks - Final Fantasy XII - Captain and Soldier
Balthier and Fran - Final Fantasy XII - Partners (Going on to Round 3)
Snow Villiers and Serah - Final Fantasy XIII - Engaged


<font color="red">Rules:

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<li>In each edition of the Rumble, a list of Final Fantasy things that are related in some way (such as music pieces, FMVs, etc.) is compiled, sometimes by me, sometimes with the help of nominations.
<li>Battles are held one-on-one in a series of round until things get down to one final battle, determining the winner for that edition of the Rumble.
<li>In the first round, ties are broken this way --- whichever entrant was winning before the battle ended continues to the next round. In rounds after that, tie-breakers are based on the percentage of votes than an entrant received in past rounds.
<li>Generally, each round is left open for 48 hours, but it might sometimes be more or less. The rumble is usually updated somewhere between 9 P.M. and 1 A.M. eastern time. Usually it won't go any longer except under special circumstances. If an entrant is winning by a blowout of four votes or more (formerly six votes), I will end that battle as soon as I notice it and a new battle will immediately commence.
<li>Discussion is usually not allowed, however, you are encouraged to post your thoughts with your vote. This helps me to count the vote total without confusion. If you have any questions, please PM (private message) Agent0042.
<li>You are asked to put your vote (only your vote, not any other included discussion) in bold, although this is not required. To bold your vote, put b within < > or [ ] before it and /b within < > or [ ] after it.
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Here are the results from all past editions:


Character Themes - Tifa's Theme (Tifa's Seventh Heaven) (Final Fantasy VII)
Summons - Knights of the Round (Final Fantasy VII)
Weapons - Masamune (Sephiroth) (Final Fantasy VII)
Outfits - Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)
Overdrives/Limits - Renzokuken Special Lionheart (Squall) (Final Fantasy VIII)
Most Overrated Character - Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
FMVs - Ending (Back to the New Present / Ending and Credits / Together at Last) (Final Fantasy VIII)
NPCs - Regent Cid Fabool (Final Fantasy IX)
Best Final Fantasy Scene - Zidane's Big Reveal (Final Fantasy IX)
Battle Themes - One Winged Angel (Final Fantasy VII)
Bosses - Ultros (Final Fantasy VI)
Character Themes 2 - Red XIII's Theme (Final Fantasy VII)
Most Underrated Character - Jessie (Final Fantasy VII)
"Create-a-Character" - Lulu's Hairstyle (Final Fantasy X/X-2), Quina Quen's Facial Features, Auron's Sunglasses (Final Fantasy X), Freya Crescent's Outfit (Final Fantasy IX), Black Mage
Categorized Music Themes 2 - Mystery Sword (Final Fantasy IX)
Greatest Quotes - Kuja's First Act: The End of Ugly Desire (Final Fantasy IX)
Coolest Monster Design - Malboro
Coolest Monster Design, Special Class - Mega Tonberry
Best Optional Boss - Tantarian (Final Fantasy IX)
Mini-Games - Blitzball (Final Fantasy X)
Best Gameplay Innovation - FMVs / Full Motion Videos (Final Fantasy VII and onwards)
Best Vehicle - Balamb Garden (Final Fantasy VIII)
Categorized Music Themes, Original Themes (But Different Tunes) - Cid's Theme (Final Fantasy VII)
Abilities - Mug/Steal (Most Final Fantasies)
Most Boring/Annoying Subplot/Sidequest - Thunder Dodging (Final Fantasy X -- dodge 200 lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains)
Character Themes 3 - Kefka (Final Fantasy VI)
Bosses 2 - Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V)
Blue Magic / Enemy Skills - Blowfish / 1000 Needles (Several FFs)
Categorized Locations - Lindblum (Final Fantasy IX)
Subvillains - The Turks (Final Fantasy VII)
Missions - Sorceress Assassination Mission (Final Fantasy VIII)
Battle/Chase Themes - Dancing Mad (Final Fantasy VI)
Most Annoying / Earworm Music - Chocobo (Final Fantasy X-2)
Command Abilities - Mug (Many FFs)
Support Abilities - Auto Life (Many FFs)

Okay, now for the new edition! We're going to be doing something a bit different here. My idea is to have a series of battles in brackets. There will be four brackets, with eight music pieces in each bracket, all fitting a certain category. In the first round, two pieces from each each bracket will battle each in turn, then there'll be three more goes at that at until there are sixteen pieces left. At that point, Round 2 will begin and things will be held like a normal rumble. No underrated/overrated stuff this time, you're voting for which ones you like, plain and simple.


Most Joyful

Main Theme - Final Fantasy IV
The Dragon Spreads Its Wings - Final Fantasy V (Going on to Round 2)
Locke - Final Fantasy VI (Eliminated in Round 1)
Descendant of the Shenobi (Yuffie's Theme) - Final Fantasy VII
Ride On (Ragnarok Theme) - Final Fantasy VIII (Going on to Round 2)
Rikku's Theme - Final Fantasy X
Epilogue ~ Good Ending - Final Fantasy X-2 (Eliminated in Round 1)
Nomination Spot 1

Most Relaxing

Samba de Chocobo - Final Fantasy V
A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea - Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Ahead on Our Way - Final Fantasy VII (Going on to Round 2)
Buried in the Snow - Final Fantasy VII
Balamb Garden - Final Fantasy VIII
Besaid Island - Final Fantasy X (Eliminated in Round 1)
To the End of the Abyss - Final Fantasy X
Frontier Village ~Dali - Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)

Most Emotional

Aeris's Theme - Final Fantasy VII
On the Other Side of the Mountain - Final Fantasy VII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Ami - Final Fantasy VIII (Eliminated in Round 1)
Melodies of Life - Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
Suteki da Ne - Final Fantasy X
1000 Words (Orchestra) - Final Fantasy X-2
Yuna's Ballad - Final Fantasy X-2 (Going on to Round 2)
Nomination Spot 3

Most Intense

Battle with Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V (Eliminated in Round 1)
The Fierce Battle - Final Fantasy VI
Weapon Raid - Final Fantasy VII
The Landing - Final Fantasy VIII
Retaliation - Final Fantasy VIII
Feel My Blade - Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2)
The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons - Final Fantasy IX
Nomination Spot 4


And our first battle is ---

The Dragon Spreads Its Wings - Final Fantasy V (Oh, I love this one! It plays when you're riding the dragon in Final Fantasy V. Very joyful and fun to listen to.)

vs.

Epilogue ~ Good Ending - Final Fantasy X-2 (A very joyful and triumphant piece that plays when you get the Good Ending for Final Fantasy X-2. Well, I wouldn't say that the entirety of the piece can be called joyful, but for the most part, it is. This is another one I really like, but then again, I'm a big fan of most of the pieces in this edition.)

(For this battle only, I'm putting the battle in bold to draw attention to it, since there's a lot of info in this first post.)


Not sure you remember what a particular piece sounds like? There are MIDIs available at the main FFShrine site, but be aware that the quality of them varies greatly from piece to piece and for some games, not all songs are available. You might do better to check the game if you have it, or get an MP3, I suppose. Also, note that sometimes the names on the MIDIs don't quite match the names I use.


Do notice that there are four nomination spots, one for each bracket. Please, please, if you have any suggestions for what should fill those spots, post it with your votes. Your nominations can be from any Final Fantasy game, including Tactics or XI. Hell, I'd even be glad to throw in Kingdom Hearts if enough people say they'd be interested in seeing it.


P.S.: If this edition is pretty popular, I might do it again sometime --- there's a lot of pieces I wanted to include but had to pass on to at least try to mix things up a bit as far as the number of pieces from each game that were included.



Note: The edition featured in this post was disrupted by a forum hack. It did eventually finish, however, the record of it was not saved.

Oh look, the first vote, The Dragon Spreads Its Wings

The Dragon Spreads Its Wings

The Dragon spreads its wings

Also i'll nominate Eyes on Me from FFVIII for consideration in the emotional category.

The Dragon spreads It's Wings

Epilogue ~ Good Ending

Epilogue ~ Good Ending

The Dragon Spreads Its Wings

Epilogue ~ Good Ending, only because I never got to far into Final Fantasy V.

Dragon Spread's it's Wings

I'd like to see "Aria di Mezzo Carattere" (FFVI) under emotional, as it's pretty much the best song of that category. Also "Dancing Mad" (FFVI) under intense (maybe, I guess its different moods fall under all of the categories).

Oh, and The Dragon Spreads Its Wings.

Yep, The Dragon Spreads it's Wings is definitely the pick of the two.

Wow, looking at those previous competitions, FFVII seems to dominate a lot. I hope in this case it does not, as music is much better in heaps of the other games. Thank you for putting Skirmish of the Silver Dragons in :)

Epilogue ~ Good Ending for me.

Also, good going Agent. This is truly a well organized rumble. :)

Epilogue ~ Good Ending

Wow. Well, the voting was a bit slow at first, but then it really took off. Thanks for the votes everyone and for supporting the new thread.


maybe, I guess its different moods fall under all of the categories
Yes, you have the basic idea correct --- moods it is.

To those that have nominated something already, thanks. "Eyes on Me" and the FFVI "Aria" are both great choices. "Eyes on Me" I had considered including, but "Aria" I had completely forgotten about. If people want to second (or third, etc.) those, that'll help to determine which is included. If not, I'll have to make the choice. And continue to nominate, folks, if you don't nominate, then ultimately I'm the only one who has to make another choice and you're leaving it in my hands rather than taking a chance to take control.


Also, good going Agent. This is truly a well organized rumble.
:) Thanks, I appreciate that.


Wow, looking at those previous competitions, FFVII seems to dominate a lot. I hope in this case it does not, as music is much better in heaps of the other games.
Yeah, I noticed too that FFVII seemed to dominate a lot of those. Intriguing when you consider that it also had the choice for most overrated character. And not only that, but FFVII made a come-from-behind in the last edition to end FFVIII dominance. Well, say what you like about FFVII, but it certainly has its place in the minds and hearts of a lot of fans.


Thank you for putting Skirmish of the Silver Dragons in
NP, glad to do so.


And now, finally, the results for the first battle:

The Dragon Spreads Its Wings - 8
Epilogue ~ Good Ending - 5


Looked at first like the "Dragon" piece was going to be completely dominant there, but then the FFX-2 piece pulled in to make it kinda close. Close, but no cigar. The Dragon Spreads Its Wings from FFV goes on to Round 2.


Next up, from the Most Relaxing category:

Ahead on Our Way - Final Fantasy VII (This plays when you're in Kalm Town. A soothing, homely sort of theme.)

vs.

Besaid Island - Final Fantasy X (Plays when you're on Besaid Island, but not in the village, in Final Fantasy X. I've always thought it one of the most relaxing pieces in Final Fantasy.)


P.S.: I promise the next battle will not include FFVII.

Ahead on Our Way. Anything X can toast it's superficial laurel.

Besaid Island I'm listening to the piano version right now. I agree, very relaxing.
Also I like this Edition of the FFRumble. Gives me a chance to go back and listen to some of the best pieces of music used in the FF series.

I'm gonna have to go with Ahead on our Way. It's very relaxing and the places you hear it are always peaceful in the game, whereas in Besaid you're still in danger of enemy attack while listening to it.

Also, I reckon Aria would be an excellent inclusion to the competition.

Besaid Island Anything with X is my choice
And also Ive never heard of Ahead On our Way

Besaid Island

I would also like to nominate (if i can still nominate stuff) Hunters chance and X Ending Theme, but im not sure what categories they can go under

Ahead on Our Way- Truly one of the most relaxing songs in gaming history.

Ahead On Our Way

Ahead on our way was a great piece and brings back memories of the game, but Besaid island is one of my favorites and is definitely relaxing so it gets my vote.

Sorry for the double post, this site has been acting stupid lately.

Besaid Island

Besaid Island.

Ahead On Our Way, fo sho.

Ahead On Our way

Due to the great increase in service slowness and non-responsiveness over the past day, I am extending this battle by one day in the hopes of getting some more votes. Don't know if anyone else will vote, but if you're reading and you haven't voted yet, come on, give it a try.

Ahead On Our Way

Well, leaving the battle open later than usual got one additional vote. Time to go ahead and end this one:

Ahead on Our Way - 7
Besaid Island - 6


Wow, that one ended up being very close. In the end, though, that last vote clinches the victory for FFVII's Ahead on Our Way.

Thanks to those who are continuing to nominate. For those that haven't yet, or want to nominate more, or second what's already been nominated, you're still welcome to do that in your vote. Nominated pieces (at least a couple) will start being included once there's been one battle in each category.


And now for the next of those battles, from the most emotional category:

Ami - Final Fantasy VIII (It's one of several instrumental versions of "Eyes on Me" in Final Fantasy VIII and also bears a strong resemblance to "Balamb Garden." Definitely a very emotional, purely instrumental theme.)

vs.

Melodies of Life - Final Fantasy IX (This theme is heard throughout the game before you finally get to hear the full vocal version, followed by the amazing Final Fantasy Prologue at the end. A song that speaks quite wonderfully to the story of the game. Some people say that they feel the Japanese version is way better than the English version, but I really like both.)

Melodies of Life

I've never heard the japanese version, but I'm voting for the Melodies of Life anyway

Ami is ok, but i feel Melodies of Life will win this because of the great orchestrals in it.

As for nominations, i guess Aria would be great in Emotional. I nominate the following for the other categories:

Joyful: Amidatti and Eleonor Too - Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (very happy music for anyone who's played it long enough to get to Shella)

Relaxing: Frontier Village ~Dali - Final Fantasy IX

Intense: Movin' - Final Fantasy VIII (includes Retaliation, but the rest of the song is intense too)

Melodies of Life
I never liked Eyes on Me, so thats why I didnt choose Ami

Ami.

I liked melodies of life but it felt more relaxing than emotional to me.

Melodies of Life

Ami-One of the more overlooked greats imo.

Melodies Of Life

Melodies Of Life

Melodies of Life

Melodies of Life

aw man, I love Ami, Melodies of life, besaid island and ahead on our way. All 4 go into my top 10 ff tracks :(

Sad to see any of them leave. But in this I'm going to have to go with Ami, the piano holds the emotion for me.

Let's see the results for this battle:

Ami - 3
Melodies of Life - 9


Ami had support, but Melodies of Life had three times more. Thanks for those who are continuing to nominate and nice to see Crystal Chronicles being requested. (I've never played it, but it's good to see some different game music being requested.) Remember, you can continue to nominate in any section until I officially announce the choice for that section.

And now, the next battle, in the Most Intense category:

Battle with Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V (This plays several times when you fight Gilgamesh in Final Fantasy V. Gilgamesh may be kinda comic, but he can also be a very tough boss and he has an intense theme to match.)

vs.

Feel My Blade - Final Fantasy IX (This plays during the stage-battle towards the beginning of the game. It gives it a nice, intense feel, even though it's only a mock battle and there's really no danger of losing.)


Once this battle is over, we'll have had one battle in every category and I'll start mixing things up a bit. For now, though, have fun voting!

Feel My Blade

Feel My Blade

Feel My Blade

Feel My Blade. The gilgamesh song sounded kinda silly lol.

Battle with Gilgamesh

Battle With Gilgamesh

Feel My Blade

Feel my Blade, no contest.

This is actually a tricky one...i had to listen to both again quite a bit. It's quite even in my opinion. If you look at the locations of each piece of music in the game, i think gilgamesh is more intense. And let's not forget how awesome and intense it sounded when the Black Mages did it.

Therefore my vote is to Battle with Gilgamesh, which is actually called Clash on the Big Bridge on the Final Fantasy V Original Sound Version (http://www.chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/pscn5015.html) soundtrack

which is actually called Clash on the Big Bridge on the Final Fantasy V Original Sound Version soundtrack
Which I want very much for Christmas, but unfortunately I get the feeling I won't be getting, (sigh). Anyway, good info.

And sorry, carry on folks, Rumble Manager selfishly inserting himself here...

All right, after that brief little insertion from me, I guess I'll just end this battle:

Battle with Gilagamesh - 3
Feel My Blade - 6


Well, it looked like it was headed towards blowout for Feel My Blade at first, but then Battle with Gilgamesh (Clash on the Big Bridge) received a few votes. Not nearly enough, though, so it's the FFIX piece that goes on to the second round.

We've now had one battle in each category, so now instead of going straight down the list, I will choose the category for a battle at my whim. And the next one will be:

Most Emotional

On the Other Side of the Mountain - Final Fantasy VII (This piece plays during the Cloud flashback scenes during the flashback to when Cloud / Tifa / Tifa's friends climbed Mt. Nibel in search of Tifa's Mom and then Tifa got injured.)

vs.

Yuna's Ballad - Final Fantasy X-2 (It's a piano version of Yuna's Theme. It plays during a lot of the more emotional scenes in the game, including the Perfect Ending, or just during the The End display if you didn't get the Perfect Ending. Also during a lot of Episode Complete scenes.)


Beginning with the next battle, I will include a nomination. So if you have a nomination for any category other than this one (or want to second one that's been mentioned) post it now, because you don't know what category I'll choose next.

Well i like Yuna's Ballad better, but in terms of being emotional, On the Other Side of the Mountain takes the cake. It's not a bad song though...

Yuna's Ballard

On The Other Side Of The Mountain

On the Other Side of the Mountain

Yuna's Ballad

Yuna's Ballad

Yuna's Ballad. It sounds more beautiful.

Yuna's Ballad

Thanks to everyone that's voted so far. I just wanted to say that the Rumble will now be going on holiday break, so that you don't have to worry about it during the holidays. It will return the Tuesday evening after Christmas, since Monday is Christmas Day observed / off-work for many people, including myself. Until then, the current battle will remain open.

Even if nobody else votes, could at least one person respond so that I don't have to double-post to start a new battle?

Happy holidays, everyone!

On The Other Side Of The Mountain

On The Other Side Of The Mountain

Yuna's Ballad

Merry xmas to you too Agent!

Yuna's ballad
merry xmas everybody

yunas ballad

On tHe oThEr sIdE oF ThE MoUnTaIn

Hope everyone enjoyed whatever winter holiday they may celebrate. Now let's get this going again:

On the Other Side of the Mountain - 6
Yuna's Ballad - 8

Solid competition. Yuna's Ballad pulls again and takes the win on this one.

Now for our next battle, in the Most Relaxing bracket:

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea - Final Fantasy VII (This plays while you're on the submarine and gives a nice, relaxing, undersea feel. It's a bit resemblant of the submarine theme from Final Fantasy V.)

vs.

Frontier Village ~Dali - Final Fantasy IX (Plays in the town of Dali. The nominated piece for this bracket.)


Frontier Village~Dali was the only piece nominated in this section. But is it more relaxing than FFVII's submarine theme? Cast your votes!

I think it's much more relaxing. Dali itself is a peaceful town that rarely sees any excitement. The music reflects this very well. Anyone can relax to this.

Frontier Village ~Dali

As Dali is one of favourite place in IX
Frontier Village ~ Dali

Frontier Village ~Dali

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea has always been relaxing to me, and it doesnt deserve to get blown out completely so it gets my vote.

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea - Final Fantasy VII

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea

Frontier Villiage~ Dali

Frontier Village~ Dali

Frontier Village ~Dali

Mainly because it`s against the one song in FFVII that makes my skin crawl.

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea - Final Fantasy VII

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea - Final Fantasy VII

Frontier Village ~Dali. I like it because it reminds me of another Final Fantasy song that I can't think of.

Let's end this one now:

A Secret, Sleeping Beneath the Deep Blue Sea - 5
Frontier Village ~Dali - 7


Very close battle! The nominated piece only just edges out FFVII's submarine theme. And next up, in the most Joyful category:

Locke - Final Fantasy VI (It's Locke's Theme. Plays, of course, when you he first appears after being asked how the "looting and plundering trade" goes.)

vs.

Ride On (Ragnarok Theme) - Final Fantasy VIII (Final Fantasy VIII's airship theme. Plays anytime you're flying the Ragnarok around the World Map. Can also be heard onboard the airship, but the noise of the ship sort of drowns it out.)

Ride On

Ride On

Ride On

Ride On (Ragnarok Theme) - Final Fantasy VIII

Ride on

Ride on, easily.

Yeah i didn't find Locke's Theme nearly as Joyful as Ride On.

Ride on

Ride On

Left this open a bit longer because there weren't a lot of votes (probably because of the holiday), but this is an obvious blowout now, so let's get moving again:

Locke - 0
Ride On - 9


Ride On rides past Locke into the second round.

Next up:

Weapon Raid - Final Fantasy VII (It plays during the Weapon attack sequences in Junon on Disc 2. Very intense stuff.)

vs.

The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons - Final Fantasy IX (A.K.A. The Assault of the White Dragons, etc. Plays when a huge bunch of dragons shows up when you're busting into Memoria. Again, quite intense.)

Weapon Raid

The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons

Due to the continuing server problems, voting on this battle is extended by at least 24 hours. Just to let everyone know.

Too easy. Skirmish of the Silver Dragons.

The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons

Voting continues indefinitely until the server issues get sorted out. Sorry about this, folks.

Weapon Raid

weapon raid

The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons

The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons

I'm really sorry, folks. I guess you're all aware of the server problems that have been happening lately. I really haven't felt it fair to try to have a rumble going while most people can barely get into the boards. It looks like things may be working better now --- if they continue to remain at least somewhat stable then we'll get going again soon.

Do you intend to keep it going Agent?

Yes I do. Obviously, most everyone here knows by now that the forums have been seriously screwed up. Obviously we've lost the records for a couple editions that ran from January up until now, plus the info on the current one. Nevertheless, I shall attempt to get this going again as soon as possible, so watch for an announcement within the next couple days.

Silver Dragons

The Skirmish of the Silver Dragons

hehe lazy

Lol wrong rumble guys, as agent said the current rumble has been lost, so no more votes until he remakes it, this music rumble is an old one.

meh...o well

Right yeah, the battle between Weapon Raid and Skirmish of the Silver Dragons is CLOSED and has been for a long time. I will try to get things going again within the next couple days. For right now, I think we all could use a break until things settle down a bit.

All right, after giving this some thought, I've decided that there's really no way I can salvage the previous edition. I don't really recall the full details of the previous edition, or any of the competitors.

In an attempt to get things going again, I've decided that for right now I want us to do something fun. Maybe something a bit different, a bit wacky, so long as it's still workable. So for right now, I'm asking anyone and everyone to throw out your wildest ideas. At this point, feel free to toss out any wild idea you might have. We'll worry about sorting it out later.

So... have fun!

How about design a possible future ff character when we start with hair and work down and vote on our what we think they should have for example

blond hair
ginger hair
black hair
brown hair

We could do all sorts from personality to family

blonde, wih turban and sunglasses

=D Sounds like a good idea. ^^ Main character: Long black hair, goatee, grey eyes. :smrt:

Mrm... I suppose it could possibly work. It's definitely different from the types of things we've done so far. I suppose some other things we could vote on would be battle style (i.e. summoning, blue magic, sword-fighter, or some sort of cross) and maybe even ideas for romantic interests.

We could have like one day for nominations of ideas and then the normal two days of voting.


It's an interesting thought. Anyone have any other ideas, though? Come on, be creative!

Heres a couple.

Favorite hairsyle, Favorite fighting style and Who is the most annoying

Hmm, I kinda like the favorite fighting style.

I am still interested in the create-a-character thing. The problem I'm seeing is that the Rumble is generally designed as a series of one-on-one battles. It doesn't really work as well when you mix in more choices. Any thoughts on how to get around that?

Why wouldn't it work? I don't see a problem with multiple answers, really, like for this character idea: example, which haircolor; just count the votes, and then see what wins? =/

If there's to many options then there could be ties between 3 or 4 things for example.

How bout doing it like this

ginger vs brunette = A
brown vs black = B

A vs B = the chosen piece.

what do you do about blonde?

Agent to make it even more interesting and possible easier on you.

I was thinking take current characters features. Just make a random selection of each.
for example Hair: Selphie, Quina, Vincent, Rude, Wakka, Paine etc etc and have 6 male 6 female parts. Play them off against each other

Eg

Girl vs Girl
Boy vs Boy

Then at the end we will have one "male" ff character we would like to see and one "female" ff character we would like to see. Does that help you out at all?

barretboy has it exactly. Having that many options thins the vote and leads to problems like multiple ties or wins that don't really mean much because it's like 4-4-3-2, whatever.


OSFM --- I think I see what you're saying --- but just to be sure --- we have could have like a series of battles regarding a particular feature, using the current characters as a palette. If we had six, we could do three two-on-two battles and then once we have those results, have a single three-way battle. (I'm fine with that.) Have I got it, basically?

That was pretty much my thinking yes.

Then that would allow for one female "custom" character and one "male"

Hmm, yeah, I'm with that.

And, in tune with keeping things fun and different, I'm gonna just draw up the battles as I go along and maybe not even go in sequence. (In other words, maybe skip around between different features.)

Let's start things off with this:


Wakka's Hair (It's orange and curves up to a single point at the top! He also wears a blue headband!)

vs.

Zidane Tribal's Hair (Never mind all that spiky stuff! Zidane ditches the ideas of his immediate "hero" predecessors, letting no cloud and no squall hinder the way he wears his hair. So Zidane's hair is sort of parted down the middle and kinda curves with the contours with the shape of his face.)




Edit:

A record of all the battles so far:

Wakka's Hairstyle vs. Zidane's Hairstyle - Wakka
Cloud Strife's Hairstyle vs. Irvine Kinnea's Hairstyle - Irvine
Barret's Hairstyle vs. Seymour's Hairstyle - Seymour
Quistis Trepe's Hairstyle vs. Lulu's Hairstyle - Lulu
Tifa's Hairstyle vs. Selphie's Hairstyle - Selphie
Dagger's/Garnet's Hairstyle (Short) vs. Yuna's Hairstyle (FFX-2) - Dagger/Garnet


Black Mage vs. Thief - Black Mage
Blue Magic vs. Swords - Swords
Fists vs. Summoners - Summoners
White Magic vs. Guns - Guns
Lancers vs. Mimes - Mimes
Ninjas vs. Berserkers - Ninjas

Steiner's Outfit vs. Tobli's Outfit - Steiner
Seifer's Outfit vs. Tidus's Outfit - Seifer
Sephiroth's Outfit vs. Gippal's Oufit - Sephiroth
Freya Crescent's Outfit vs. Yuna's Outfit - Freya
Aeris/th Gainsborough's Outfit vs. Rikku's Outfit - Rikku
SeeD Uniform vs. Eiko's Outfit - SeeD Uniform

Cid's Cigarette vs. Auron's Sunglasses - Sunglasses
Rinoa's Necklace vs. - Eiko's Hairbow - Hairbow
Locke's Bandana vs. Squall's Necklace - Bandana
Gau's "Shiny Thing" vs. Vincent's Bandana - "Shiny Thing"
Steiner's Feather vs. Rikku's Googles - Googles
Irvine's Cowboy Hat vs. Gippal's Eyepatch - Cowboy Hat


Quistis Trepe's Facial Features vs. Lulu's Facial Features - Lulu
Queen Brahne's Facial Features vs. Lucil's Facial Features - Queen Brahne
Ultimecia's Facial Features vs. Quina Quen's Facial Features - Quina Quen
Red XIII's Facial Features vs. Vivi's Facial Features - Vivi
Barret Wallace's Facial Features vs. Jecht's Facial Features - Jecht
Yuffie's Facial Features vs. Zell's Facial Features - Zell

Wakka!

haha I like the idea Agent. Its interesting and different. Good job:)

Also Wakka Gotta love the hairband

Zidane's hair it pretty kool except for that little longer tailsh peice of hair

Wakkastrue style. I wonder how much gel he used, or maybe wax.

Wakka for me too, although Zidane's ain't bad either.

Wakka

Very difficult choice, although i'm rather going for Zidane. (with his little boe-tie at the end of his hair ^^)

Wakka's hair, no doubt.

Zidane

I would have gone for Wakka if Wakka's hair was black, that would be awesome.

I hated Zidane so its gotta be Wakka

Zidane, not only do I hate Wakka with an undying passion but his hair makes him look like a god damn parrot.

good point with the parrot

Wakka

Wakka's hair.

i don't know wakka is ginger but zidane looks so stupid er.... Wakka

I don't really like either but if I had to choose...
Wakka


I wonder how much gel he used, or maybe wax.
More like thickened spaghetti sauce...

Zidane

Wakka

All right, I thought I'd extend this a bit since things just got started up again, but there weren't any extra votes. Let's wrap this first battle then:

Wakka - 12
Zidane - 5


In the battle of the hair, Wakka won pretty easily, but Zidane had some support.

All right, let's move on to another battle. How about we do some fighting styles?


Black Mage (Ah, a fighting style seen in many FF games and popularized perhaps even more by Vivi in FFIX and perhaps to a degree by Lulu in FFX. The black mage is generally weak at any sort of physical attacks, but has an array of magic spells at his/her disposal. Often these spells are of the elements. Highest level spells include Flare and Ultima, or in Vivi's case, Doomsday.)

vs.

Thief (Locke, Zidane, Rikku, etc. This fighting type may have some skill at physical attacks, but often is also pretty speedy. The thief can be a valuable asset to the party, often able to quickly build up items that would otherwise be hard to get, or perhaps couldn't be acquired at all. Stealing isn't always easy, though.)

Black Mage

Black Mage

While Locke is my favorite Thief in the series, I like <B>Black Mage</B> better. Last time I checked, you can't kill a ton of monsters by stealing from them. But you can by casting powerful spells.

Black Mage

Black Mage

Black Mage.

Im gonna ahve to say Black mage. Its a lot more useful in a tight corner.

Thief, cause I'm probably the only one cool enough to say it.

Thief because it's my favourite class on FFTA and Black Mages just make battles easier specially in higher levels

Thief. Even if i like Black magic i hate getting out of MP. And i like more physical attacks :)

Thief

thief- rikku is a sex muffin

Thief, since i usually prefer physical attackers, and mug is always an awesome ability.

Black Mage Vivi is my favourite character...i bought FF8 and FF9 at the same time and wanted 2 play 9 cause of Vivi, what a cool confused little powerful black mage

Thief, since i usually prefer physical attackers, and mug is always an awesome ability.

Thief. one word: Locke

Thief. one word: Locke
you mean the all time sex muffin rikku right?

While Locke is my favorite Thief in the series, I like <B>Black Mage</B> better. Last time I checked, you can't kill a ton of monsters by stealing from them. But you can by casting powerful spells.

Thief. Zidane, Locke and Rikku were 3 of my favourite characters.

Black Mage, ftw!

Black Mage

Black Mage

Black Mage

Sorry for askng it here, its a bit off topic but is there a thief in FF VIII?

Sorry for askng it here, its a bit off topic but is there a thief in FF VIII?

....Selphie? lol, no, there's not really any character that fits that job.

Nah, FFVIII stealing is gained from GFs.

Looks like votes really picked up here. Let's see the results:

Black Mage - 13
Thief - 9


Voting for Thief really picked up towards the end, but it just didn't happen. Black Mage goes on to the second round.


Next battle!

Okay, we've had a male hairstyle battle, so how about a female hairstyle one? Let's do this:


Final Fantasy VII - Tifa (She's got like little bangs sticking down [I guess you'd call it that] and it sorta curves down to a sharp point on the left.)

vs.

Final Fantasy VIII - Selphie (I'm not gonna lie --- I absolutely adore this character's hair-style. It sort of flows down and then curves around back up.)

Selphie!

TIFA-BIG BEWBS

Selphie

Selphie

Selphie!(^_^)

<B>Selphie's</B> hair is so much better than Tifa's.

Tifa. =)

Selphie

Selphie

Selphie

Tifa

Selphie

Selphie

Selphie

Ill go for Selphie too.

Is this just FF7 tifa's hair or just her hair in general...if so i pick tifa cause it looks good in AC, if AC doesn't count then selphie

Yes, people should probably think about AC on this one.
Anyway i go for Selphie

**Off topic**
Thx for answering my question :)

Lol, Tifa.

I remember when her hair looked good for being on a game. :P

Tifa

Okay, we've got:

Tifa - 5
Selphie - 13


And no, I wasn't really thinking about Advent Children.




(I was all ready to create this image myself, only to find that I'm not the only person who had this idea! Don't Get Mad, Get Glad!)



All right, enough of that. Next up: Outfits!

Final Fantasy IX - Steiner (What fun! Steiner's "dirty, rusty armor" was the source of many jokes throughout Final Fantasy IX and earned him his nickname "Rusty." But it was certainly memorable.)

vs.

Final Fantasy X-2 - Tobli (What a wild outfit! Tobli's outfit is very colorful. He has a sort of red hood thing covering his head, with a pattern of yellow. THe main color of his outfit is a rich brown, with various bands of colors including red, yellow, orange and green.)


I think this'll make for a fun battle. Cast your votes!

Steiner

Steiner.

Having not played FFX-2, I choose Steiner.

Steiner

Tobli

(Come to think of it, i've never seen a helmet like Steiner's before i played FFIX)

Tobli The clinking of Steiners armor drove me insane.

Steiner

Tobli

The way that <B>Steiner</B> ran around and heard the clank of his armor was one of his signature game moment, and Tobli looks like a duck.

The way that <B>Steiner</B> ran around and heard the clank of his armor was one of his signature game moment, and Tobli looks like a duck.

Imagine a main character dressed like a taller Tobli...

Steiner

Steiner, one off FFs character highlights.

Steiner, I've never played FFX-2 ...and now I know I never will.

Steiner

Steiner

Looks like this was pretty one-sided, but let's get those results:

Steiner - 12
Tobli - 4


Tobli did have a few supporters, but it's Steiner that goes on to the second round.

Let's do another fighting style battle:


Blue Magic (This fighting style allowed characters to utilize magic first used by enemies. In Final Fantasy VII it was called "Enemy Skills." In some games, only certain characters could use blue magic, in others, any character could. Quistis was an example of a character that use blue magic when the rest in the game couldn't.)

vs.

Swords (One of the most common fighting styles in Final Fantasys is, of course, with a sword. There have been lots of swordbearers and sometimes, fighting with a sword was simply a part of a job type, such as a warrior or knight.)



Sorry, no picture this time.

Not a very good battle, but <B>Swords</B>

Swords

Swords

Blue Magic

I liked Blue magic

Swords.

Blue Magic Because without things like White wind, Bad breath and Quistis's Degenerater im sure a lot of us would have been dead in places.

Blue Magic which is my favourite kind of magic^^

Blue Magic, because swords are boring, generic, and in at least half the games ever made.

swords cause they're shiny and point and Ouch! they hurt!

Swords, never found blue magic much help, especially in VIII.

Blue Magic it always works different in the each game.

Blue Magic

Swords

Swords

Blue Magic. Far more intresting and original then swords.

Blue Magic

Although swords may be generic and boring, they are generally much more effective than blue magic imo. The only blue magic i ever really used in any game was quistis' degenerator for obvious reasons, but aside from that 90% of it all is useless.

burgers... no swordz

Okay, let's see the results:

Blue Magic - 9
Swords - 10


Surprisingly close battle --- Swords goes on to the second round. Swords may be boring and generic, but I guess at least they're reliable.


Oh, what next, next. How about this --- a battle of accessories?


Final Fantasy VII - Cid Highwind - Cigarette (Can a cigarette be called an accessory? Sure, why not?! Of course, today, Square-Enix wouldn't dare to have one of their characters smoking a ciagrette. [In Kingdom Hearts, Cid sucks on a straw.] Cid uses his cigarette as part of his "Dynamite" limit break.)

vs.

Final Fantasy X - Auron - Sunglasses (Auron sports a pair of shades, which don't quite completely cover his eyes.)

Cid's Cigarette especially in the DoC trailers it gives him that "badass" feel.

Sunglasses.

Sunglasses.

i go for Cigarette.

Sunglasses

Sunglasses

Sunglasses

Auron without the sunglasses is worse than Cid without the cigarette, so my vote goes to the sunglasses.

As I smoker I have to go for the Cigarette

cigarette

Sunglasses Suit Wakkas hair, hahaha.

Tough battle but ill go for Aurons glasses

Sunglasses

Ooh what an interesting concept, but not a close battle. <B>Sunglasses</B>, because I'd love to get my hands on a pair of them.

^________^
Auron's sunglassess are an excellent accessory.

Not a huge vote-getter this one, and yeah, not all that close. Let's go ahead and end it:

Cid's Cigarette - 4
Auron's Sunglasses - 11


Those final votes really sealed things tight for the sunglasses.


We've had a male clothing battle yet, but not a female one, so le's do one now:

Final Fantasy IX - Freya Crescent (Freya's outfit is mostly a sort of reddish orange. She wears a pointed hat and a colorful tie.)

vs.

Final Fantasy X - Yuna (Yuna's wears summoner's robes that include long pink-and-white sleeves, and a full length skirt that's blue with a star pattern.)


Sorry, but there aren't going to be anymore pictures for each-and-every battle --- it's just getting too tiresome to do. (And I know my descriptions aren't the greatest either --- but I think we all have a pretty good idea of what various characters / character traits, etc. look like.)

I'll help you out for this battle then:

<A HREF="">Here</A> is a small picture of Freya's outfit.

<A HREF="">Here</A> is a small picture of Yuna's outfit.

With that said, I'll vote for <B>Yuna</B>, it has more style.

Freya gets my vote

Freya

Im gonna notch another vote up for Freya

Freya