Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea (Matron Edea)

Edea plz.

Sorceress Edea.

Sorceress Edea

Time to bring this battle to an end, I think...

Demon Gate - 2
Sorceress Edea -9


Demon Gate gets a couple of votes, but Edea is far and away the favored choice here. She moves onwards to the second round. And congrats to Final Fantasy VIII, which with this victory scores a clean sweep with all four of its bosses moving on the second round.


Let's move onwards ourselves to this battle...


Kuja - Final Fantasy IX (Considering only the battle against him at the end of Disc 3. As far as battles go, this one isn't necessarily too rough. The main thing to watch out for is being worn down after the previous battles with the Silver Dragon and Garland. You might also want to have Zidane steal his items, which include Caribini Mail and Light Robes. According to the Boss FAQ at GameFAQs, Kuja actually only uses two attacks-- Thundaga and Demi. It's just enough to make him a trifle dangerous, but really, this battle is just a lure to get you to attack him such that he builds up enough of a rage to go into Trance, as evidenced by the comments he makes throughout the battle. Once he Trances, he uses Ultima, an admittedly stunning move that knocks your entire party flat.)

vs.

Lani - Final Fantasy IX (IX vs. IX- why not? Lani shows up in Fossil Roo, looking to seize Dagger/Garnet for Queen Brahne, following the party's grand escape from Alexandria. In this case, Lani actually likes to focus on attacking Dagger. She swings a huge axe, but she's also a fairly decent magic user, using Aera, Water and general second-level elemental magics. She has a Coral Sword and a Gladius to steal.)

Lani - Final Fantasy IX because of Big..... Axe.

Lani - FFIX

she was a more troublesome boss than Kuja

Kuja was the much better boss. Lani had the much better chest.

Lani - FFIX

she was a more troublesome boss than Kuja

Kuja. I detest Lani.

Kuja. I detest Lani.

Lani

Lani

Kuja

Kuja

DNS was down last night, so I decided not to update. Let's go ahead and get this updated now:

Kuja - 5
Lani - 5


It looks like we have a tie. In that case, we will go to coin-toss. And it comes up... Kuja.


Next up...


Hojo - Final Fantasy VII (He actually has three different forms, but since you face them all in succession, we're going to consider them all together. Got that? Good. His first form is nothing to write home about, but he does have a couple of monsters with him to try to trouble you up. The latter forms are mainly about troubling you with abnormal statuses and strong physical attacks.)

vs.

Seymour Flux (Seymour is another boss that troubles you with a number of forms. We've got that contrast thing going here though in that Seymour appears at various points throughout the game, rather than in several forms in one go. For this battle, we'll just consider one of those forms-- Seymour Flux. He appears as you're climbing Mt. Gagazet and is supported by Mortiorchis. Seymour uses Banish on any aeons you summon, so they're only good for one turn before he says "Death awaits you!" and finishes them off. This form of Seymour uses Lance of Atrophy, which can cause Zombie status and then uses Full-Life, which will KO the character if they're in Zombie status. He likes to Dispel characters' beneficial statuses and Mortiorchis can hit with a powerful physical attack called Cross-Cleave. Also, past a certain point, Mortiorchis goes into "Auto-Attack Mode" and this is the lead up to a spectacular attack called Total Annihilation which hits multiple times and can basically well, totally annihilate all but the most amazingly souped-up party.)

Seymour Flux

Hojo - Final Fantasy VII

Seymour Flux just annoyed me >.<

Hojo

Hojo - FFVII

Hojo - FFVII

Hojo - Final Fantasy VII

Hojo

Hojo

Hojo

Hojo - 10
Seymour Flux - 1


Hojo it is then, by a hefty margin. I didn't realize Seymour Flux had only one vote.


Final battle of the first round!


Flame Eater (This is a substitution! Gigantos had this slot, but I realized that Gigantos is actually an optional boss. As I had said before that I would not be including optional bosses in this, it wouldn't do to have him, having realized this. So this is the substitution. You fight Flame Eater in the house in Thamasa after running through a gauntlet of fire. Flame Eater is, of course, weak against ice-based attacks. Still, your party consists of only Strago, Locke and Terra, so you may have to strategize some, particularly if your magic isn't up to snuff.)

vs.

Leblanc - Final Fantasy X-2 (For this battle, considering only the final encounter with her in her Chateau. She has a spell called "Not-So-Mighty Guard" but don't be fooled-- it places her, Ormi and Logos under Shell, Protect and Regen and therefore is definitely of benefit to them. Her support abilities also include White Wind, Osmose and the infamous "Love Tap" to haste Ormi or Logos. Her attack types include grenades with status effects as well as a Mach Fan that hits and delays your party. Finally, she can combine with the other two for the No Love Lost attack, their best special.)

Flame Eater

Leblanc

Leblanc even though I find FFX2 the most annoying FF game ever :P

As much as I hate her, I'm going to have to say Leblanc - FFX-2.

Le Blanc easily.

Leblanc

double post sorry

Leblanc

Time to go ahead and end this and get the second round started:

Flame Eater - 1
Leblanc - 7


An easy victory for Leblanc over FFVI's Flame Eater.

The first round had its surprises, but I'd say on the whole weeded out a lot of the weaker entrants. So I'm looking forward to good battles for the second round. Let's see what's left...


Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V
Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI
Atma Weapon - Final Fantasy VI
Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII
Schizo - Final Fantasy VII
Hojo - Final Fantasy VII
Biggs and Wedge - Final Fantasy VIII
Fujin and Raijin - Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII
Adel - Final Fantasy VIII
Beatrix - Final Fantasy IX
Ark - Final Fantasy IX
Kuja - Final Fantasy IX (Going on to Round 2
Yunalesca - Final Fantasy X
Leblanc (Chateau encounter) - Final Fantasy X-2
Mandragoras - Final Fantasy XII


First battle of the second round:


Biggs and Wedge - Final Fantasy VIII (Biggs: "...But I hope you appreciate our position. Hey, it's a dog eat do..." Wedge: "Uh, they are fully armed, sir..." Biggs: "W-WHAT!? H-Ho-How...? Ahh, hell with it! Let's go, Wedge! ... I was demoted because of you! ... I'm only a lieutenant now! ...I'll get my revenge!")

vs.

Yunalesca - Final Fantasy X (Mika: "Why are you here? You must go and defeat Sin, quickly! You have obtained the Final Aeon from Yunalesca, have you not?" Tidus: "Well, we did meet her." Yuna: "We fought and defeated her." Mika: "What!" Auron: "Summoners and guardians will be sacrificed for the Final Summoning no more!")


Biggs and Wedge were hilarious as comic bosses, which no doubt accounts for their presence here in the second round. But are they a match for the three-form epic Yunalesca battle? Cast your votes!

Yunalesca

Yunalesca

Yunalesca

Call me old fashioned but Biggs and Wedge

Biggs and Wedge

Biggs and Wedge, I never got farther than that in FFVIII, I had the PC version which is pretty dull to play.

Yunalesca

Biggs and Wedge

Biggs and Wedge. Comic bosses are always major win.

Biggs And Wedge, because I really hate Yunalesca.

Yunalesca

Biggs and Wedge. Comic bosses are always major win.

Biggs and Wedge

Was going to update this last night, but the DNS was messed up again and I just don't see the point of updating it when that's acting up. So, let's find out the results now...

Biggs and Wedge - 8
Yunalesca - 6


Following an early lead for Yunalesca, the comic pairing of Biggs and Wedge continue to the quarter-finals. Next we have...

Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Exterminate everyone! Soldier: "But Narshe is neutral..." Kefka: "Idiot!! Read my lips!! Dispose of any who oppose us! March!" Elder: "We really have no choice. Let's make ready for war!")

vs.

Ark - Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "!!! So this is what Kuja was harping about. Time to head back. Whoa! ...? Something's coming!")

Kefka

Kefka (Narshe encounter)

I don't like Kefka much, but Ark is so God damn boring I have to vote against it.

Kefka

Kefka

Kefka

Kefka

Kefka

Eh, don't really like either. Kefka, I guess.

Kefka (Narshe encounter)

It looks like we have a blowout...

Kefka (Narshe encounter) - 11
Ark - 0


After making it to the second round, Ark can't manage even a single vote for for a quarter-final spot. So we say goodbye to it.


Next up...

Schizo - Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "We'll secure the route. You come up later. ... Ugh....... Errgaahh!!")

vs.

Adel - Final Fantasy VIII (Odine: "First, go to Lunatic Pandora. Ellone's probably being held captive inside, so rescue her first. Then kill Sorceress Adel before ze awakening process is completed. Now, we're left with Rinoa as ze only sorceress of this era.")



Two headed monster on an icy cliff in FFVII vs. the final boss of FFVIII's Disc 3. Cast your votes!

Adel

Tough one, but my vote goes to Adel

both are tough motherfuckers imo...Adel

Adel

Adel

Adel

Schizo

Adel.

Adel

Schizo - 2
Adeel - 9


A fairly large margin of victory for Adel, who earns a spot in the quarter-finals.

Next up...

Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V (Gilgamesh: "Hahaha! I've take what was inside this box!! ... So. Let's see. This is our fourth time, huh. Makes me kinda happy. By the way. Where's that jolly old man?" Krile: "... ..." Gilgamesh: "I see. ... Ok, this is the end of my warm-up. Gilgamesh change!! Excalibur. Let me see your strength! Huh!? What the!? Isn't it the strongest sword!?")

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Beatrix - Final Fantasy IX (Beatrix: "Never step into this land again. ... Your pathetic powers are useless against me." Zidane: "...Hey, wait a minute... You're the general of this kingdom. As the general of Alexandria, what is your sworn duty!? Isn't it to protect Dagger--your Princess Garnet? I'm sure you know who's sitting over there." Beatrix: "It can't be... Princess... ...So, it was true. The queen really did mean to kill her..." Steiner: "WHAT!? No! The queen would never do such a thing!" Beatrix: "Steiner, it is time for you to accept the truth. ...My heart is set. All this time, I have been mistaken...")


Yep, these are two strong contenders, but only one will make it the quarter-finals! This should be a very interesting battle. Cast your votes!

Beatrix - Final Fantasy IX

Sorry Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh.

Sorry Bea~

Beatrix

Welcome back Allen

The Beatrix fight was great, but nothing beats Gilgamesh for me.

Gilgamesh

Beatrix sama

nice blow exchange till now

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh, I'm so sick of seeing Beatrix win all the time.

Beatrix

Beatrix

Ahem...Gilgamesh

Beatrix

Gilgamesh - 7
Beatrix - 6


A pretty close battle throughout, but ultimately it's Gilgamesh who gets the upper-hand in this battle. He proceeds to the quarter-finals, while we bid the valiant General Beatrix adieu.


Next...

Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "Jenova, a calamity from the skies? You mean she wasn't an Ancient!?" Sephiroth: "...I see. I don't think you have the right to participate. I will go north past Mt. Nibel. If you wish to find out... then follow..." Cloud: "...Reunion? Calamity from the skies?")

vs.

Mandragoras - Final Fantasy XII ("A terrible menace plagues the Sochen Cave Palace. Calling hale hunters of all ages and races to deal with this scourge upon us. [WARNING] This is not an official bill, and it will not be listed in the Clan Primer.")

Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII



Welcome back Allen

Thanks good to be back.

Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII

Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII

Materia Keeper

Materia Keeper

Keep the ball rolling - Materia Keeper

Mandragoras

Mandragoras. Someone has to stand up for the sheer awesomeness of not only the bosses themselves, but the backstory and hilariously spoilt Archadians you meet in the process.

This will end later this evening-- normally I would give it an extra day with all the forum outage problems recently, but the results seem pretty clear...

Right...

Materia Keeper - 6
Mandragoras - 2


Next up is:

Atma Weapon - Final Fantasy VI ("My name is Atma...... I am pure energy...and as ancient as the cosmos. Feeble creatures, GO!")

vs.

Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Edea: "So the time has come. You're the legendary SeeD destined to face me?" Squall: (What is she talking about?) Sorceress Edea: "I must say that I am impressed. ...An impressive nuisance. Your life ends here, SeeD.")

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea cuz Alexander

Sorceress Edea because of story importance

Sorceress Edea because of story importance

Ultima Weapon (YES, Ultima. Not Atma lol). Just because Fierce Battle theme.

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea.

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter)

Edea

Adding to the destruction.

Atma Weapon

Edea

Edea

Just a heads-up that this will probably not be updated today due to lack of time (as I mentioned in another thread, the power is currently out my home-- I'm typing this from my workplace.) We'll have to see, stay tuned...

We're ready to get going again! Thanks for bearing with me.

Atma Weapon - 2
Sorceress Edea - 12


Sorceress Edea sails through. A somewhat surprising loss for Atma Weapon-- I thought it was more popular than that. Anyway, we have two battles left in the second round. Here's the first of them...

Fujin and Raijin - Final Fantasy VIII (Raijin: "Big sound, this way. It's probably them, ya know?" Fujin: "THEM? NO, IMPOSSIBLE." Squall: (That voice...) Raijin: "Ahhhhhh! It IS Squall, ya know!?" Fujin: "SHOCK. GOOD. CONVENIENT.")

vs.

Kuja - Final Fantasy IX (Zidane: "What are you doing here, Kuja!?" Kuja: "That's not a very nice way to greet your brother." Zidane: "Shut up! You're not brother of mine!" Kuja: "Oh, such ferocity... Master Garland, he intends to fight Terra." Garland: "Kuja... What are you scheming?" Kuja: "Scheming? Me? Watch me as I defeat these enemies of Terra! Come on, now! You may sleep alongside the souls of Terra. For all eternity!")

Fujin and Raijin

Kuja - Final Fantasy IX why not

Kuja.

Kuja

Fujin and Raijin

Two of the most irritating characters in FF history or a guy in a thong? Tough call... I'll go with Kuja.

Kuja

Kuja

Kuja

Fujin and Raijin, bitches.

Kuja

Fujin and Raijin, mostly just to make it more respectable. I don't have any great preference in this one.

Kuja

Fujin and Raijin - 5
Kuja - 9


Closer than some recent battles, though Kuja powered ahead and Fujin and Raijin ended up not having a chance once that happened. All right! Final battle of the second round:


Hojo - Final Fantasy VII (Hojo: "...nonsense? Oh, this? Ha, ha, ha... Sephiroth seems to be counting on the energy. So I'm going to lend him a hand." Cloud: "Why!? Why do that!?" Hojo: "Quit asking me why, you moron. Hmm... actually, you might be cut out to be a scientist.")

vs.

Leblanc - Final Fantasy X-2 (Rikku: "Well? Want another helping of your just desserts?" Paine: "No one's gonna hear you scream from down here." Leblanc: "W-Wait a second! I'll let you see what's in the sphere!" Paine: "Let us?" Leblanc: "Please, the sphere is yours to watch.")



Also, I think, starting with this battle, I'll be moving back to a schedule of updating about once every two days. Normal blowout conditions still apply, of course.

Hojo

Hojo

Hojo

Only four votes? Oh well. We have to move on, and we have an obvious winner...

Hojo - 4
Leblanc - 0


Let's move straight into the quarter-finals. Here's what's left...



Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V
Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI
Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII
Hojo - Final Fantasy VII
Biggs and Wedge - Final Fantasy VIII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII
Adel - Final Fantasy VIII
Kuja - Final Fantasy IX


Interesting... of all of what we started with, we're down to just a single "monster" boss. All of the rest are human. Also, Final Fantasy VIII seems hugely favored in this one-- claiming four of the eight spots. Let's see if VIII's good fortune continues with...


Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI (Kefka: "Don't think you've won. Aack!! I won't forget this!")

vs.

Biggs and Wedge - Final Fantasy VIII (Squall: "What do you think you're doing!?" Biggs: "Huhhhh? Likewise, MISTER! What do you think you're doing!?" H-HEY! What happened to all the soldiers down below!? WEDGE! Take care of these twerps!!! W...Wedge? I...ah... Well...ah...I seem to be done here, so I'll just be on my...")

which Biggs and Wedge encounter is it? Dollet or D-District Prison?

Kefka.

Kefka

Kefka

Kefka

Kefka

Olde -- for the Biggs and Wedge, it is either. Both can be considered in determining your vote. Anyway, given the forum outage problems of the past couple days, I think I'll wait to end this until tomorrow evening.

Kefka

Kefka

Kefka

Biggs and Wedge - Final Fantasy VIII

Olde -- for the Biggs and Wedge, it is either. Both can be considered in determining your vote. Anyway, given the forum outage problems of the past couple days, I think I'll wait to end this until tomorrow evening.

Kay. Biggs and Wedge it is.

Kefka (Narshe encounter) - 9
Biggs and Wedge - 3


So despite the extra time, not even close for Biggs and Wedge, really. They get a few votes, but Kefka, as fought in Narshe, moves on to the semi-finals. So long to FFVIII's comic duo.

Next up...

Materia Keeper - Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "If the Mako Reactor countinues to suck up the energy, this fountain will dry up too..." Sephiroth: "Materia. When you condense Mako energy, materia is produced. It's very rare to be able to see materia in its natural state." )

vs.

Sorceress Edea (Ultimecia) (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII (Sorceress Edea: "Worthless child." Squall: (...The [auditorium] is right below.) Seifer: "There's no way you guys can beat her.")



Materia Keeper is the only non-human boss left in this battle. Will it perish like the others of its kind have in this rumble? Cast your votes!

Sorceress Edea.

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea (Ultimecia) (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII

Materia Keeper

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea.

Materia Keeper

Materia Keeper - 2
Sorceress Edea - 6


Seems non-humans just can't hack it in this edition of the rumble. Sorceress Edea moves on and the last "monster" type of boss is outta here.

Next up:

Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V (Gilgamesh: "Crap. Alright, for today, you are lucky, I'll let you go.")

vs.

Kuja - Final Fantasy IX (Kuja: "... H-Ha ha ha... What an interesting lie. You're telling me that my life will end soon? Ha ha ha... Nice try, Garland, but I won't fall for your silly tricks... Garland? ... Garland!? Answer me!" Garland: "You were created to destroy. You are a mortal...")


And just to keep things clear-- in considering Gilgamesh, you're considering the overall merits of all fights with him. With Kuja, however, you're only considering the fight at the end of Disc 3, the one that comes after Garland.

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh - no competition here, really.

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh - no competition here, really.

Kuja , bitch.

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V

Kuja

Kuja

If not for Hawkeye's vote, it could have been a blowout. But, in any case, we have a clear winner...

Gilgamesh - 8
Kuja - 3


Kuja only scrapes a few votes-- Gilgamesh looks strong going into the semi-finals.


Final battle of the quarter-finals...

Hojo - Final Fantasy VII (Cloud: "Magic...... a mysterious power." Sephiroth: "Ha, ha, ha!" Cloud: "Did I say somethin' funny?" Sephiroth: "A man once told me never to use an unscientific term such as mysterious power! It shouldn't even be called magic! I still remember how angry he was." Cloud: "Who was that?" Sephiroth: "Hojo of Shinra, Inc. ... An inexperienced man assigned to take over the work of a great scientist. He was a walking mass of complexes." ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Hojo: "Ha, ha, ha... HA, HA, HA...!! What will Sephiroth think when he finds out that I'm his father? Always looking down on me like that. HA, HA, HA...!!")

vs.

Adel - Final Fantasy VIII (Laguna: "Huh?......Hmm...Okay, fine!" We'll accept your help. In return, we'll help you Anti-'Azel' movement or whatever." Ward: "......" Kiros: "It's 'ADEL'. Start listening more closely, 'cause it's getting embarrassing... ...is what Ward would say. Can't you see it in his eyes?")

Adel

Yeah, I have to vote for Adel

Hojo deserves some support here.

I agree with you Ceidwad - Hojo.

Yeah I feel sorry for him, so my vote goes to Hojo

Hojo

Hojo - 4
Adel - 4


A surge of sympathy for Hojo leaves these two in a tie position. When that happens in a later round, we have to look to the results of the past rounsd to determine the winner. And we have...

Hojo - 10/11, 4/4
Adel - 5/9, 9/11



Well, I don't even need to run the calculations. Though he only just barely made it here, Hojo had pretty much universal support when he was up before, even if the number of votes on one particular battle was pretty thin. He goes on to the semi-finals.


Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V
Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI
Hojo - Final Fantasy VII
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII

And how different the layout looks now. FFVIII has gone from dominating this edition to having just one competitor left in it. Will that competitor remain? It's time to find out in the first battle of the semi-finals...

Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI (Arvis: "Banon!" Banon: "Our blood will spill because of you. Emperor Gestahl's racing to acquire Magitek power. He's set his sights on the Esper that was found here! The increased use of Magitek power'll surely lead to global destruction..." Elder: "The War of the Magi... The mythical battle that set mankind back a thousand years. Can this really be happening? People will never learn...")

vs.

Sorceress Edea (G-Garden encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII (Irvine: "The sorceress should be here somewhere." Squall: "(No turning back now...) Forget about the past! She's our enemy now! Don't think twice for a second. There's no way we can fight her like that. I, for one, can't. She chose to fight and became our enemy. We chose to fight back. We have no choice. At least I'd like to think so. (Seems like I'm the only one confused...) We've come this far. I guess there's no need for me to say anything.")

Kefka (Narshe encounter) - Final Fantasy VI ;)

Sorceress Edea

Edea was generally more enjoyable to battle because her in-battle comments were actually relatively interesting, whereas Kefka just blurted out his usual simplistic insults.

Kefka

Kefka

Edea

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea

Sorceress Edea

Kefka

Kefka - 5
Sorceress Edea - 8


And so the madness of Kefka comes to an end for this edition. Which I guess will be all right with him, anyway, since his theme won the last edition of the rumble. (That is, if anything is ever "all right" to a maniacal madman, other than total domination.)


Let's find out who will be joining Edea in the final...



Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V (Gilgamesh: "Lenna, never forget your love for animals." Lenna: "..." Gilgamesh: "Butz, someday I'd like to fight you one-on-one! You were such good friends." Necrophobia: "Gilgamesh, DIE!" Gilgamesh: "That's MY line.")

vs.

Hojo - Final Fantasy VII (Tifa: "Look, look at that!" Cloud: "Hm...? That girl in the bikini......? Not a bad view...." Tifa: "What're you looking at? That man over there. That's Hojo from Shinra. Get outta here. Go talk to him!" ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Aeris/th: "Professor Hojo.... Is Jenova an Ancient? Is Sephiroth an Ancient? Do we all have the same blood?" Hojo: "......mumble....mumble..... head west...." Aeris/th: "He's mumbling slowly.... That must mean he's hiding something!")

Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V

I'll go for Hojo, just cause.

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Love for Gilgamesh!

Hojo

Gilgamesh - 5
Hojo - 2


Not a lot of votes there, but Gilgamesh takes the crown on that one. Well, this is it then. We've made it to the final edition of the second Bosses edition of the Rumble, the brawl for it all. Ultros from Final Fantasy VI won the first Bosses edition. In the left-hand corner...


Gilgamesh --- Largely a comic boss, though he can still sometimes be a fearsome opponent. Regardless of what you think of him, he has come through some tough battles to be here in the final. He shows up at various points in the game and even helps your party at the end-- tired of being messed around and being ExDeath's flunky. But does he have what it takes to be the winner of this edition?


And in the right hand corner...

Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) --- Sorceress Edea bursts onto the scene in Timber and immediately becomes a figure of fear. What you don't know for a good while, though, is that Sorceress Edea is actually a kindly woman who nevertheless has sorceress powers. She doesn't actually have any ambitions to rule a nation, etc. etc., instead she's being possessed by a sorceress from the future named Sorceress Ultimecia who is searching for a girl named Ellone so that she can attain "time-kompression." For this particular edition of the Rumble, we've only been considering the battle with Edea in Galbadia Garden-- the big one in which, afterwords, Edea is finally freed from Ultimecia's control. Based on this battle alone, does Edea win the title?


So there it is:

Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V

vs.

Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) - Final Fantasy VIII


Cast your votes!

Gilgamesh - Final Fantasy V

Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter)

Never been a big fan of Edea in the first place, always liked the character Gilgamesh.

Sorceress Edea

Never really liked Edea. It's going to have to be Gilgamesh.

Sorceress Edea

Gilgamesh.

Edea

Gilgamesh.

Let's end this...

Gilgamesh - 6
Sorceress Edea (G-Garden Encounter) - 4


Gilgamesh wins a close one, joining Ultros in the ranks of your favorite Final Fantasy bosses.

http://agent0042.fileburst.com/gilga.gif


So what's next? Well, unless somebody else has some other really exciting idea, I think I'd like to go with an idea suggested by Zak just before this most recent edition started-- blue magic / Enemy Skills. There's a lot of good ones and I think we can have a good mix of ones both used throughout the series and ones unique to specific games. In the meantime, feel free to chat about this most recent result, etc., and the next edition should get started soon...

Can you list the categories we've done already Agent?

Nope-- because I already have! As I often state, the data on what we've done already is available at any time. I keep a running record of the current edition as well as the final results of past editions in the first post of the thread. Just jump right back into the start and you'll see the full list... looks like we've had nearly thirty editions to date. Wow.

Blue Magic and Enemy Skills sounds just peachy with me.

Blue magic and enemy skills sounds good.

Yeah, lets do blue magic!

Yeah I grow tired of Gilgamesh winning every rumble :o

Yeah, lets do blue magic!

Blue Magic!

All right-- new edition starts sometime tomorrow. Won't say exactly when-- it'll be a surprise! :) In the meantime, if anyone has any nominations, go ahead. Though I think I'll have everything pretty much covered-- you can expect pretty much all of the standard blue magic plus some of the better unique spells from each game.

I've noticed we haven't done too much by way of equipment. There's a weapons rumble but there have been some cool armours and accessories in the FF series that could justify a rumble of their own.

I realise Blue Magic is going to win the most nominations this time, but it might be worth considering for a future rumble.

We're past the "nominating a category" stage, actually-- we're definitely doing Blue Magic. In fact, it would have started yesterday if the server hadn't been acting up again-- I don't like starting the rumble (especially the start of a new edition) when things are messed up. In any case, this will be starting a bit later this evening. Doesn't look like there's any nominations for Blue Magic, so I hope everyone's satisfied with my choices, though you still have a couple hours if there's something you absolutely must see.


And yes, accessories/armor, etc. is definitely something to consider for the future.

Right, let's get this show on the road! My general assessment was that 32 should work okay for this edition. 16 would be way too few, but 64 would just end up including a lot of really junky stuff that nobody would be likely to vote for. So here's what we have. I've got two sections, the general stuff that's in more than one FF and then the specific stuff unique to some individual games...


White Wind
Mighty/Big Guard
Aqualung / Aqua Breath
Lv# Death
Lv# Confuse
Doom
Blowfish / 1000 Needles
Micro Missiles / Black Shock / Dischord
Roulette
???? / Revenge
Magic Hammer
Fusion / Pep Up
Bad Breath
Laser / Missile

Grand Train - Final Fantasy VI
Quasar - Final Fantasy VI
Step Mine - Final Fantasy VI
Beta - Final Fantasy VII
Frog Song - Final Fantasy VII
Shadow Flare - Final Fantasy VII
Degenerator - Final Fantasy VIII
Shockwave Pulsar - Final Fantasy VIII
Frog Drop - Final Fantasy IX
Limit Glove - Final Fantasy IX
Night - Final Fantasy IX
Angel's Snack - Final Fantasy IX
Jump - Final Fantasy X
Thrust Kick - Final Fantasy X
Stone Breath - Final Fantasy X + X-2
Nova - Final Fantasy X
Cry in the Night - Final Fantasy X-2
Annihilator - Final Fantasy X-2


First battle...

Blowfish / 1000 Needles (An ability most often associated with cactuars, though for some reason in earlier FF games it is called "Blow Fish." Final Fantasy V and VI let you use this as blue magic and it's available to Quina in IX. It's a Blue Bullet in X-2. It also becomes a Technick in XII, though that's not actually blue magic. Anyways, this skill reliably deals 1,000 damage, so it's useful if you can get it early, or if for some reason you have need to do exactly 1,000 damage to an enemy.)

vs.

Stone Breath - Final Fantasy X + X-2 (One of only maybe two or three blue magic type spells available only in both X and X-2, but not in any other FF, as far as I know. One of the more useful ones too. Will petrify/shatter all targets that can be affected by that. One particular instance it's useful is in NSNSGNC game in X against the Guado guards in the Macalania Temple.)


And so, there we go. Some cool spells in the mix and there should be some exciting battles. Cast your votes!

Blowfish / 1000 Needles

Blowfish / 1000 Needles

1,000 Needles

1000 Needles

Stone Breath

1,000 Needles

Blowfish / 1000 Needles

1000 Needles

1000 Needles

1000 Needles

Let's end this one:

Blowfish / 1000 Needles - 9
Stone Breath - 1


Stone Breath only manages one vote. Guaranteed 1,000 damage definitely appealing.

Next battle...


Magic Hammer (To my knowledge, this one is present in both Final Fantasy V and VII. The basic gist of it is that you can siphon off the enemy's HP, which can be useful if you're dealing with a powerful magic user, such as Godo in the Wutai Pagoda. Curiously, this skill works differently in FFVII depending on whether you have the PC or Playstation version. In the Playstation version, it absorbs the enemy's HP, but for those with the PC version, it only drains it.)

vs.

Limit Glove - Final Fantasy IX (A powerful Blue Magic ability of Quina's. If Quina's HP is 1, then this skill deals a guaranteed 9999 damage. Can be manipulated by killing off Quina, saving and then reset as necessary until a Phoenix Down revives hir HP to 1. Useful skill for an Excalibur II or general low-level game.)

Limit Glove

Limit Glove

I thought Magick Hammer drains MP..

i don't care so much anymore though..debates don't bring sweet or juicy things..

Limit Glove because i have yet to experience getting 12:00 hour completion time maximum for Excalibur II.

Limit Glove

Magic Hammer ~

Limit Glove

Limit Glove

Limit Glove

Limit Glove

Magic Hammer drains MP, yeah, it was also in FFIX. :D And meh, I didn't really use the (kinda broken?) Limit Glove, so I vote Magic Hammer. ~

Magic Hammer