Malboro

Do I even have to say it?



Malboro

Malboro

Tonberry!

Malboro

Tomberry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D

Tonberry

Tonberry


I propose a bonus battle between Great Malboro and Mega Tonberry.

Doink! Tonberry! just got another vote.

Malboro

Gonna go ahead and end this:

Tonberry - 6
Malboro - 7



Malboro


Our winner by just one vote!



I propose a bonus battle between Great Malboro and Mega Tonberry.


Anyone else for this? I don't mind doing it, just for fun.

I'm fine with doing it. Not as good as Jumbo Cactuar vs. Great Malboro, though. :D

Jumbo Cactuar vs. Great Malboro vs. Mega Tonberry please. :D haha

And Behemoth King. May as well do it properly.

Well if we're doing "iconic-upgrades," guess we could throw Lv.99 Red Chocobo in the pot. Is there an upgraded moogle, outside of Montblanc that is :p

ROTFL. At this rate, if you guys were interested in suggesting a few more of these, perhaps we could make a genuine Mini-rumble.

You should do the general summon rumble too.

You should do the general summon rumble too.

good idea

Definitely summons.

Now what else are we lacking?

Summons was already done in another rumble within this section. It's old news, anyway, I'm not doing summons here. We can worry about thoughts for other editions later, I suppose. Anybody else have anything else they want to throw into the mix here as far as what we've been discussing?

well, as far as I know it, I'm kinda lost here, so no.

What about favourite cities/places? Cant think of anything else :(

We're doing that in the Classics Rumble, Roki.

All right, tell you guys what. Let's get this mini-rumble started. And to keep things interesting, the full list of entrants will not be revealed in advance. So let's start with this here:


Jumbo Cactuar

(Well, you guys know the score. It's a massive cactus. It's got a mustache thing going.)



vs.

Behemoth King

(Sorry I couldn't get a bigger picture. It's a larger, more fearsome version of your standard Behemoth. I must say, it definitely looks impressive.)

http://agent0042.fileburst.com/ffbking.gif


Oh, and we're still doing this:


Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster's overall appearance / design.

Jumbo Cactaur. I can't say for sure, not knowing the participants, but just know it's going to take something spectacular for me not to vote this guy all the way to the top.

I mean, the mustache, man, the mustache. Also, custom Renzokuken animation.

Gotta give it to the Jumbo Cactuar. His mostache and 10,000 needles is just awesome.

Jumbo Cactuar and his awesome 'stache ftw

Jumbo Cactuar and his awesome 'stache ftw

Jumbo Cactuar is totally awesome but I love Behemoth King's design.

Behemoth King because it looks like work actually went into creating it.

Jumbo Cactuar is great, but since we're voting on desgin and not nostalgia, Behemoth King.

Jumbo Cactuar is totally awesome but I love Behemoth King's design.

Behemoth King.

At least you can hug it without getting spiked with needles.

And we have:

Jumbo Cactuar - 4
Behemoth King - 5


Wow! An upset! So it's Behemoth King as the winner of that battle and next we have:


Mega Tonberry

(The Mega Tonberry is seen in Final Fantasy X-2. There's also the Tonberry King from Final Fantasy VIII. Anyway, this sucker is massive. Huge, colossal tonberry.)



vs.

Great Malboro

(Twisting things up a bit by pairing up these here. But honestly, the Great Malboro really doesn't look all that different from your standard Malboro.)




Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster's overall appearance / design.

King/Mega Tonberry

Also, :puppydog: :( :sad: R.I.P. Jumbo Cactuar.

Mega Tonberry

Great Malboro. (Note to Agent: the picture is displayed as Malboro, not the Great Malboro).

Malboro already won one rumble. Giving this one to Mega Tonberry

Mega Tonberry

DOINK! Tonberry just got another vote

Gotta be mega tonberry.

MEGA TOMBERRY!!!

Behemoth King? A stunning upset.

Mega Tonberry.

I'm not fond of either design, to be honest, but... I'll vote for Mega Tonberry (Paine's a terrific incentive).

Mega Tonberry b/c of the awesome power of the Tonberry King.

Mega Tonberry

Big-ass Mega Tonberry :D:D

All right, we end up at:

Mega Tonberry - 12
Great Malboro - 1

A landslide victory for Mega Tonberry. And next up is:


Let's do this next:

Elder Drake

(This ultra big-drake can really get in your way in X-2's Via Infinito. It's the biggest Drake you'll ever see. I couldn't come up with a picture, but I think anyone that has encountered this one will probably remember it.)

vs.

Lv. 99 Red Chocobo

(This elusive chocobo in FFXII can be really hard to find. Very rare chance of showing up. So I'm wondering if it even has a shot. Especially given that there are still many folks here that haven't played XII or haven't cracked a lot of its secrets yet. Perhaps the fact that I was able to come up with a picture on this one will provide a slight advantage...)



Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster's overall appearance / design.

Well I haven't played played X-2, but we all know my opinions on Drakes, so 99 Red.

Ive never seen Elder Drake, but ill vote for it anyway, as it must look better than a red chocobo. (How do you get that red chocobo to appear anyway?)

Elder Drake

Elder Drake

Lv. 99 Red Chocobo

It's almost like the Lv.99 Red Chocobo is cheating, just becuase it's at maximum level, so I'm penalising him and is going for Elder Drake. ;)

Elder Drake is pretty badass. Good when you beat him/her/it. Lv.99 Red Chocobo just looks like a normal red chocobo. If it had been Elder Drake vs Trickster, however, I would easily vote for Trickster.

Haven't played FFXII, so choice is definitely easily made. :D Elder Drake!

well since the red chocobo dont wanna come out no matter how many times i try to get it since i want a ribbon or 2 i definitly have to go with <B> Elder Drake <B>

All right, let's do this:

Elder Drake - 7
Lv. 99 Red Chocobo - 2


Very easy win for the Elder Drake. All right, this is here is going to be the last battle of this round, then we move straight into semi-finals for this little mini-edition:


Ruby Dragon (I just didn't feel right not having a proper dragon in this. So let's try this again with Ruby Dragon. You are required to fight this massive dragon at least once in Final Fantasy VIII. Kiros and Ward are supposed to wear a costume of it, but instead, the real deal shows up. A couple of these suckers also guard the way to Bahamut, and ultimately, Ultima Weapon.)



vs.

Grand Dragon (Ah, all right, tricked ya'. So one good dragon deserves another. This particular dragon, "Grand," can be fought in two different locations in FFIX. It's great for leveling up, though, remember, of course, what you're voting on.)





Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster's overall appearance / design.

Ruby Dragon. Not horribly enamored with either, but VIII love, yada, yada, yada. Plus it is slightly more inspired design-wise.

Ruby Dragon. I thought Grand Dragon didn't look all that great, especially for a grand dragon. Ruby Dragon on the other hand just looked wicked.

Ruby Dragon. I thought Grand Dragon didn't look all that great, especially for a grand dragon. Ruby Dragon on the other hand just looked wicked.

Grand Dragon

Ruby Dragon.

Didn't like how the Grand Dragon looked so ordinary.

I haven't seen either and those pics are too small for me to see now so I'm not voting this round.

Grand Dragon

Ruby Dragon

I just find Grand Dragon's overall design to be very dull, and it's an almost classic representation of what dragons are thought of appearing as, in most people's minds.

When I had first saw a Grand Dragon in FFIX, I didn't think: "Wow! That's a groovy design." It was more along the lines of: "Okay, I'm dead now (at least the dragon looked tough), and to think, they've piqued my interest after all those Kupo Nuts that were given to them by me."

I'm not a fan of dragons in the first place, so yeah, bias won in the end.

Ruby Dragon. I thought Grand Dragon didn't look all that great, especially for a grand dragon. Ruby Dragon on the other hand just looked wicked.

Ruby Dragon

Ruby Dragon

And we have:

Ruby Dragon - 9
Grand Dragon - 2


Solid win there for the Ruby Dragon. So here's the tote-board for that round:

Jumbo Cactuar
Behemoth King
Mega Tonberry
Great Malboro
Lv. 99 Red Chocobo
Elder Drake
Ruby Dragon
Grand Dragon

And now, straight into the semi-finals for this edition:

Behemoth King

vs.

Ruby Dragon

If anyone needs a reminder on the appearance of this "potential death(s) for a death" SOB, here:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2789/behemothkingiz0.gif

*Small pixels to keep it a fair match.

Yet again, I'm gonna have to vote for Ruby Dragon on this one, Agent0042.

I've never been too fond of any Behemoths, regarding design and other aspects.

Behemoth King

Yet again, I'm gonna have to vote for Ruby Dragon on this one.

I've never been too fond of any Behemoths, regarding design and other aspects.

Behemoth King

Ruby Dragon

Ruby Dragon. Personal vendetta. This is for the 'stache!

Behemoth King!

Well, I'll be... Behemoth King did in fact win over Jumbo Cactuar, and it was a narrow win at that.

I somehow missed that rumble, and to think, I would've voted for the Canseco-like cactus.

Ruby Dragon. Personal vendetta. This is for the 'stache!

x2.

Thanks Tyki Mikk. I forgot that I had a picture of that one and for some reason thought that I didn't.


And our results on this one:

Behemoth King - 3
Ruby Dragon - 5


:) For the 'stache. Ruby Dragon squeaks that one out. Our other semi-final:

Mega Tonberry



vs.

Elder Drake

Next update will be Tuesday because of the holiday.


Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster's overall appearance / design.

Mega Tonberry!

Mega Tonberry!

Mega Tonberry!

Mega Tonberry!

Mega Tonberry ftw!

Mega Tonberry ftw!

Mega Tonberry

Mega Tonberry!

Mega Tonberry

What a walkover.

Oh yeah, Mega Tonberry.

Mega Tonberry

Mega Tonberry

On a side note: np, Agent.

Mega Tonberry!

Whew! All right, let's get this updated. Woulda done it last night, but I couldn't seem to get into the boards. Anyway, based on the tally, this is long past due for an update, but I didn't want to end it early because of the holiday:

Mega Tonberry - 13
Elder Drake - 0


A total blowout. Elder Drake gets the old goose-egg --- not a single vote. And now, the final battle of this special edition:

Mega Tonberry



vs.

Ruby Dragon




Malboro won the award for coolest monster design, but which of these will take the special class? Will it be another walkover for Mega Tonberry, or does the Ruby Dragon have what it takes? Cast your votes!


Remember, you are voting based on what you think of the monster's overall appearance / design.

MEGA TOMBERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mega Tonberry

Mega Tonberry

Ruby Dragon

Mega Tonberry

This is a difficult decision.

Uhhh.

Umm.

Mega Tonberry gets the vote.

Megie Tonberi

I really like the Ruby Dragon, and I'd love to vote it forward, however....

Mega Tonberry in all likleyhood will be the one I vote through all the way.

Ruby Dragon though Mega Tonberry is likely to win.

Mega Tonberry and it should win. Stuff of genious.


DOINK!

Mega Tonberry

Mega Tonberry in all likleyhood will be the one I vote through all the way.

Mega Tonberry

Definitely Mega Tonberry.

I like the stitches and the robes and the lantern. :]

Mega Tonberry - 12
Ruby Dragon - 2


Doink! Tonberry lost the general edition for monster design, but our winner for special class:

Mega Tonberry




And so another edition comes to a thrilling close. What's next? Dunno yet, though I have a few vague ideas I'm kicking around. In any case, the next edition will start this coming Monday evening, so get ready!

How about a big boss rumble? Off the top of my head I can think of the Weapons from VII, Sephiroth, Sin, Nemesis, the Dark Aeons, Penance, Hell Wyrm, Yiazmat and Omega Mark XII.

Sephiroth would probably win anyway. :P

Sephiroth would probably win anyway. :P

You haven't been around long, huh? :p

EDIT: Don't forget Ozma.

It should be optional bosses then. Take off sephiroth and sin, put in angra mainyu, paragon and trema. Anything else you wanna put in, I havent played the other FF's so I wouldn't know.

There are a lot of other Omegas, but Shinryu from V should be added.

And maybe the Gil Turtle from FFV should be added too.

Gil Turtle? I purposefully repress memories of V. Is he canonical or GBA-extended universe?

Mega Tonberry. That's not a bad win I'd say.

The Gil Turtle from FFV, from what I recall, is canonical. The "Gil Snapper" from FFXII probably originated to some degree from it.


Anyway, yeah, optional bosses sounds like it could work. I've been trying to avoid things that were done back in the old "Champions" Rumble that we used to have going here, but I don't think that one ever did optional bosses. So we could do that. All right, yeah, let's go. If anyone has any other nominations, post them between now and Monday evening. Things get started then, so if you don't nominate, I just add in stuff myself to round things out.

MagiMaster. jeez, I've only used his name about 6 times this week xD

I nominate Odin (FFVIII) and Emerald Weapon (FFVII).

Emerald was optional... right? > > < <

Ruby, Ultima, Omega weapons. Also Hades from FFIX. if we're including any form of monsters from the Monster Arena in FFX, then we could include Nemesis as well.

Nemesis is an Omega, of course he's in. Well I would think, it's up to Agent, of course.

EDIT: That's a little misleading. Omegas are not all automatically in. VII's Omega (officially in Dirge of Cerberus) isn't optional.

I haven't played Dirge of Cerberus, so I wouldn't know. But generally, Omega is some form of optional boss.

Tantarian, Ozma, and Hades. (FFIX~)

Nemesis is an Omega, of course he's in. Well I would think, it's up to Agent, of course.
Sure. Let's just not go overboard on the Monster Arena "bosses," okay? Otherwise, I have no problem with it.

BIG optional bosses. Nemesis would be in as he's the top dog (of monsters in the arena). Not just any optional boss, but the big/tough ones, the ones seen as a challenge. This would mean only the top ones on the monster arena, just like it would mean only the later marks in XII.

I suppose you could do the dark aeons in X seperately, but many won't know them, and people would choose the higher dark aeons over the lower dark aeons (dark bahamut over dark ixion for example). Definately put penance in though.

This is the second time my idea has turned into a rumble :D excellent.

Yeah, I think it would probably be preferable to pass on the Dark Aeons, but Penance, sure, okay.

Anyway, absolute last chance for nominations before I start things up later tonight. So if anyone still has any...

All right, let's get this party started. Optional bosses rumble, commence:

Omega - Final Fantasy V
Shinryu - Final Fantasy V
Ruby Weapon - Final Fantasy VII
Emerald Weapon - Final Fantasy VII
Ultima Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII
Omega Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII
Ozma - Final Fantasy IX
Hades - Final Fantasy IX
Quale - Final Fantasy IX
Tantarian - Final Fantasy IX
Shinryu - Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena)
Nemesis - Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena)
Penance - Final Fantasy X (International)
Trema - Final Fantasy X-2
Angra Mainyu - Final Fantasy X-2
Paragon - Final Fantasy X-2


Yes, I know a couple choices were left out, but I decided to go with only sixteen because I didn't have enough material to make 32 and there were some choices that weren't mentioned that I thought were important inclusions. Well, let's get going with the first battle:


Emerald Weapon - Final Fantasy VII (A WEAPON released by the Planet, storming the seas of Final Fantasy VII. Available only by running into with your submarine. Those that have fought this menace are almost certainly aware of its Aire Tam Storm, a powerful attack that always does 9999 damage to all three members of your party. Or does it? Astute observers will note that "Aire Tam" is actually "materia" backwards. The attack does 1111 damage for each materia orb a character has equipped. Emerald is made up of several sections and its other attacks include Emerald Shoot, Emerald Beam, Revenge Stomp and powerful attacks from "eyes" that can drain both HP and MP. P.S.: You are limited in the time you have to fight this battle unless you equip the "Underwater" materia. And for winning, you receive the Earth Harp, which you can exchange for a set of Master Materia.)

vs.

Tantarian - Final Fantasy IX (A monster in a book, the Tantarian in FFIX is something of a throwback, one of the game's many nostalgic references to past FFs. In this case, the "Page" monsters found in the Library of the Ancients in Final Fantasy V. Anyway, the Tantarian can be something of a tough nut to crack, especially if you choose to take it on the first of two times it's available to battle. Tantarian uses the attacks Paper Storm, Edge, Doom and Poison. It's best to try to get it to reveal its physical form and then attack with magic. It has several valuable items to steal.)


I'm interested to see how this one goes. The Emerald Weapon seems like a shoo-in from a pure power standpont, but FFIX has a lot of fans here and the Tantarian may be a surprise favorite. Cast your votes!

Tantarian

Also, Omega Weapon in Dirge of Cerberus (not VII proper) is NOT optional, as previously noted.

Emerald Weapon.

Emerald Weapon

Tantarian

Emerald Weapon

Emerald Weapon

My hubby. 0:]

Emerald Weapon

EW

Tantarian

Tantarian, always been a bit of a bookworm.
That was awful wasn't it?

Seriously because of Running Shoes being a big help early in the game and the method in which you had to defeat it was pretty interesting.

Tantarian

Tantarian

Tantarian is a very tricky boss, took me a while to figure out how to fight it.

Emerald Weapon I have a fear of deep water and it carries over to video games(Seriously). It freaked me out just getting to him, let alone fighting underwater.

And we have:

Emerald Weapon - 7
Tantarian - 7


Wow, first battle and first tie. Well, when there's a tie in the first round, we go to a coin-toss, as was determined a while back. So it'll be heads for Emerald Weapon, tails for Tantarian. And we have... tails. So Tantarian it is.


Also, Omega Weapon in Dirge of Cerberus (not VII proper) is NOT optional, as previously noted.
Fixed. I meant to put Ultima Weapon, but then I realized that one isn't technically optional either, since you have to fight it at least once. So I just went with FFVIII's Ultima Weapon instead.


My hubby. 0:]
Interesting. I always thought of Emerald Weapon as vaguely female, myself. After all, ships at sea and stuff are supposed to be female. But whatever.


Anyway, next battle...

Omega Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII (Omega is feared for his most powerful attack --- the incredibly damaging Terra Break. It can also use the Medigo Flame, which is 9998 damage on all, and Gravija. Not to mention it always starts the battle with L5 Death. And that's only some of its attacks. You don't really get much for winning this battle, other than Three Stars and the Proof of Omega.)

vs.

Trema - Final Fantasy X-2 (The final boss of this game's Via Infinito dungeon. Trema has 999,999 HP and is an incredibly fast attacker. He has a swift set of physical attacks, including one that can cause Stop status. He also has access to powerful magic such as Meteor and Ultima. Common strategies against him involve draining his MP so he can't use the powerful magic. For winning this battle, you receive the amazingly powerful accessory Iron Duke.)

Omega Mk. VIII

Trema

Fittest old guy this side of Jack La Lanne.

Omega Weapon

Omega Weapon

Trema is a human. Even if he was part-something else I'd vote for him but just a human? (Well, a ghost of a human) Sorry, I'm voting for Omega Weapon

Omega Weapon

Trema
I had so many Problems in the Via Infinito dungeon on X2.

Omega Weapon

Omega Weapon

Omega Weapon

Omega Weapon.

The Omega Weapon!

The Omega Weapon!

Omega Weapon!

Omega Weapon

Trema.

And this battle wraps up with:

Omega Weapon - 13
Trema - 3


Rather a walkover there, but not a complete shutout. The unsent Yevonite had a few supporters, but FFVIII's powerful Omega Weapon blasted its way to the second round.

And our next thrilling conflict:


Quale - Final Fantasy IX (Currently paired up with Vivi over in the FFIX Rumble, Quale is also competing here as an optional boss. In order to fight Quale, you have to use Quina to catch 99 frogs within Gaia's various Qu's Marshes. Once you've done this, Quale will appear and engage Quina and the rest of your active party in a battle. This fight isn't quite as easy it may seem though. Of particular interest is that Quale has some awesome items to steal, including the rare Robe of Lords. Quale can inflict various status effects such as Mini, Confuse and Silence. S/he has 65535 HP and also uses water-based attacks. Still, s/he shouldn't be too tough if you're well-prepared. You receive an Elixir for beating hir, as well as the Bistro Fork. Defeating hir "completes" this particular sidequest, though you're welcome to keep catching frogs.)

vs.

Shinryu - Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena) (Shinryu is an underwater boss available as unlockable creation in Final Fantasy X's monster arena. As an underwater battle, you're required to fight this using Tidus, Wakka and Rikku. Shinryu counterattacks with a powerful claw after being attacked. Shinryu's most vicious attack is Eraser, which petrifies a character. And since you're underwater, that character gets shattered. Otherwise, it just uses a normal attack and attack called Shining that hits all three characters for random damage. Did I mention that it has 2 million HP? You get 30 Megalixirs just for unlocking it. You can steal Gambler's Spirit or Three Stars from it and winning the battle grants you the powerful Wings to Discovery.)

Quale

Quale

Shinryu. I'm sure some people get upset over having to train party members they may not otherwise use, but as they are my standard party, GAME ON!

Shinryu

Quale

Quale.

If it was Shinryu from V on the otherhand...

Quale gave me a hard time :)

Shinryu

Shinryu
Another underwater battle that scares the pants off of me. Plus that Petrify attack is wicked. I cant remember if you can counteract it or not.

Shinryu.

Shinryu
Another underwater battle that scares the pants off of me. Plus that Petrify attack is wicked. I cant remember if you can counteract it or not.

Ribbon is the only foolproof way, other anti-petrify things don't work, and you can't heal if they get petrified in water.

Shinryu

Quale. :D A surprising optional boss, and kinda tough first time I fought him.

So our results on this are:

Quale - 6
Shinryu - 6


And we have another tie. This is getting to be like a habit. All right, heads for Quale, tails for Shinryu, and we have... whaddya know. Heads it is. So it's Quale to the second round. Must say, much better battle than I expected. I wasn't sure how much support Quale had.


Well, on we go, next battle...


Omega - Final Fantasy V (FFV's Omega. I'm not sure, but I think this may have been the first-ever Omega. Its attacks include Surge Beam, Atomic Ray, Malestrom, Delta Attack and Circle, among many. It has a wide variety of attacks and is definitely an extremely powerful foe, especially if you're not prepared. In particular, you want to guard against fire damage. For beating it, you receive 100 ABP, 50000 gil and the Omega Medal. P.S.: There's an even more powerful version in FFV Advance, but I'm not covering Advance here because so many people [including myself] haven't played it yet. Of course, there are plenty that haven't played V anyway, but whatever. Their loss.)

vs.

Ruby Weapon - Final Fantasy VII (It terrorizes the sands surrounding the Gold Saucer. It can use Whirlsand to remove characters from the battle, but you can avoid this by going in with two characters KOed. It can do counteratttacks and also access to the Enemy Skill Shadow Flare. It also often uses Comet2 and can counterattack Knights of the Round with Ultima. However, a common strategy for beating Ruby involves W-Summoning KoTR in conjunction with Hades, which is surprising effective at stopping Ruby Weapon cold. For winning, you receive the Desert Rose, which can be exchanged for a craptastic gold chocobo. And a bunch of AP/EXP, etc. etc.)

I prefer V's Shinryu to its Omega, but yeah Omega Mk. V, cause I'm not voting for any VII weapons. period.

Omega.

Ruby Weapon, because the spoils for defeating it made my day.

Also, if Ruby Weapon were a Transformer, I could imagine its transformation being that of VIII's Ragnarok, and that's worthy of a win in itself.

Omega.

Ruby Weapon, because the spoils for defeating it made my day.

Also, if Ruby Weapon were a Transformer, I could imagine its transformation being that of VIII's Ragnarok, and that's worthy of a win in itself.

Omega.

Ruby Weapon, because the spoils for defeating it made my day.

Also, if Ruby Weapon were a Transformer, I could imagine its transformation being that of VIII's Ragnarok, and that's worthy of a win in itself.

Woops, missed a round. Would of voted for Quale anyhow.

Ruby Weapon cuz already one Omega has gone through.

Ruby Weapon
Only Becuase of this. I never fought Omega. Shhhhhhhh. please dont tell anyone. I am a Final Fantasy Fan, I truly am. Cant a guy make one mistake..... Hun? Dont judge me! Dont you Dare Judge me!

Gonna go for a somewhat unusual afternoon update here, change things up a bit. Our final results on this battle:

Omega - 4
Ruby Weapon - 5


VII's Weapon wins this time, just narrowly. All right, and next up:


Penance - Final Fantasy X (International) (It has 12 million HP and for the most part, top flight stats. [Exceptions being a Luck of only 10 and an Evasion of 0.] It also has two arms with 500,000 HP each. You have to defeat all of the dark aeons before you can fight it. Its attacks include Judgement Day, Oblieration and Imoliation. Oh, and it has a second form too. It's a long, drawn out fight and obviously some major strategy is involved. And a lot of grinding character-building in order to even stand a shot. Big disadvantage --- International isn't available except by import in the United States, so many have never faced this sucker.)

vs.

Angra Mainyu - Final Fantasy X-2 (This menace prowls the sands of the Bikanel Desert in X-2. Though it shows up before then, you can't officially defeat it until Chapter 5. A monster sealed by the cactuars in the ancient past, it has risen again to take advantage. You gather the ten Gatekeepers to raise the Great Habib, but it simply turns its menace on the Al Bhed camp. It has 333,444 HP, 9999 MP and a variety of sinister attacks. Its most powerful attack is the dreadful Perdition's Flame, which hits all of your characters multiple times. It also has access to Flare, Demi and Bio among others. Oh, and let's not forget that it has two extensions --- Tawrich and Zarich. Tawrich's Bloody Breath causes multiple status ailments and Zarich has Glimmer of Despair, which reduces both MP and character stats. All three parts move extremely fast. Even if you kill off Tawrich and Zarich, Mainyu has the ability to restore them with Full-Life and can also cure them.)

Angra Mainyu.

Penance

Fought both, it's got to be Penance. Angra is too easy once you know how, but Penance always seems like a challenge no matter what strategy you use. And it feels sooo good to finally beat it.

Abstain. Haven't properly played X-2, and I only have the NA version of X.

Penance

Penance. :]

Penance

Penance, because I enjoyed the FFX battle system more, which made it a more enjoyable battle.

Angra Mainyu

Well, the results on this seem pretty clear, so I'm just gonna go ahead and end it:

Penance - 6
Angra Mainyu - 2


So, despite the disadvantage of being from a game that a lot of people don't have access to, Penance goes on to the second round. We're more than halfway through, but we still have a few battles left. Let's continue with:

Shrinyu - Final Fantasy V (It's Level 97 and has 55,500 HP. Its attacks include Maelstrom, Tidal Wave, a powerful physical attack, Snowstorm and several blue magics. A standard strategy against is to equip Coral Rings and two-hand Dragon Lances, then simply leap and crush it. Anticlimactic, really, but it polishes him off instantly. For winning, you get the Dragon Seal and Ragnarok.)

vs.

Hades - Final Fantasy IX (An optional boss along a secret path in Memoria. He has 55535 HP and is Level 92. Hades has several useful items to steal --- Robe of Lords, Battle Boots, Running Shoes and Reflect Ring. For winning, you get Elixir and Wing Edge. Hades has access to Curse [multiple status ailments]. He also uses Vivi's most powerful magic --- Doomsday. His Cleave attack hits for powerful physical damage and Judgment Sword reduces a single characters' HP to 1. An interesting thing to note is that Hades will know if you have already beaten Ozma, and seem, well, rather shaken about it. If you beat Hades, he opens the best synthesis shop in the game. Here, you can synthesis the Pumice, Save the Queen, the tin Armor and other such items.)

Hades, because Winona Ryder would've had a field day with him; I know Zidane did.

I've got a thing for dragons called Shinryu.

Hades

Hades

Shrinyu doesn't even come close to Hades's difficulty.

Hades

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Shinryu


Shrinyu doesn't even come close to Hades's difficulty.That's like saying the bosses in FFI are harder than fighting the dungeon monsters leading to them, but I guess it all depends on your party's levels.

You don't seem to realize what this rumble is all about.

Come back with these stupid comments once you've figured it all.


Here, I'm in a good mood so I'll help you a bit: Thread 27567

... anyway.

Hades.

Hades.

Erm, right. Anyways, our results are:

Shinryu (Yeah, I know, I misspelled it, before.) - 2
Hades - 8


A walkover, pretty much. Hades is on to the second round, but the dragon boss from FFV at least had a bit of support. Two battles left in this round. First up:

Ultima Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII (I suppose FFVIII's Ultima Weapon is something of a warmup act for Omega, but that's not to say it's not a reasonably tough battle. Its best move is Light Pillar, which instantly KOs a single character. [9999 damage] It also uses Gravija, Ultima, Meteor, Quake and a fairly strong physical attack. Its weakness its low HP, which allows it to be taken out fairly quickly. But as it's at the bottom of the Deep Sea Research Center, it's quite a chore just getting to it. You can draw the GF Eden from it. Additionally, it has the magic Ultima available to draw, so you may want to take the opportunity to stock up. For winning, there's a high, but not 100% certain chance that you'll receive 100 Ultima Stones.)

vs.

Paragon - Final Fantasy X-2 (A weapon-type monster in Cloister Infinity of Bevelle's Via Infinito. Most dangerous attack is Big Bang, which can do 99,999 damage to YRP. Definitely to be avoided. Also uses Genesis and other powerful attacks. Interestingly, like the other weapons in this game, this sucker has an Oversoul form that behaves rather differently from the normal form. You have to face this before fighting Trema. Oh, you can learn the Blue Bullet Supernova. And if you return to Cloister Infinity, it'll be there to face again.)

I feel like an outcast. I never even tried to fight any of the optional bosses in any FF after VII.

Abstain. I guess.

Ultima Weapon. Literally made me quit (seriously) gaming for something on the order of 6 years. Erased my memory cards and stormed off. That purple bastard has a special place in my heart.

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Paragon, easily.

I was, for the most part, not impressed with VIII's Ultima Weapon at all, seeing as how I defeated it on only one try, and as Agent pointed out, its low HP is a major weakness, so the battle is a breeze (or it should be), esp. at that point in the game.

Paragon's not necessarily tough either, but at least it takes a semblance of effort to defeat it. Plus, its design is much cooler than any other Weapon-type I've seen, and the FMV of Trema owning its ass gives Paragon credibility, imo. ^_^

I'm not familiar with Paragon and I always enjoyed the challenge of Ultima Weapon.

Paragon

Never fought Paragon, so Ultima Weapon.

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Ultima Weapon

Paragon.

Ultima weapon

Never fought Paragon, so Ultima Weapon.

All right, the results on this one are:

Ultima Weapon - 8
Paragon - 3


So Ultima Weapon it is, perhaps at least in part by the fact that so many haven't faced Paragon.

Our final battle of the first round:

Ozma - Final Fantasy IX (This big spinning globe thing is found in the Chocobo Air Garden. 65535 HP, 9999 MP and many dangerous moves. It uses Level 5 Death, so it's not a good idea to have anyone with a level that's a multiple of five. It has Kuja's Star Flare and the powerful Doomsday spell. It can also Curse your characters with status effects and uses Flare, Holy and Meteor. It has tremendous speed. You can steal a Pumice Piece, Robe of Lords and Dark Matter. And you can win a Pumice and Dark Matter. Also, for winning, Mene gives you the Ozma card and Strategy Guide key items. In order to attack Ozma physically, you'll need to have completed the Friendly Monsters sidequest.)

vs.

Nemesis - Final Fantasy X (Monster Arena) (The big one. Nemesis [a.k.a. "Omega Gold"] is only unlockable after you've captured ten of every monster and beaten all of the creations at least once. Just for unlocking it, you receive 10 Master Spheres. It has 10,000,000 HP. Obviously, most of its other statistics are way high. It has a powerful physical attack, for sure. It also uses the powerful moves Ultra Spark and Annihilation. Common strategies include simply going for Zanmato and using aeons as sacrificial lambs. For winning, you receive the Mark of Conquest Key Item.

Ozma.

Ozma. Nemesis is an assured battle if you know how. Ozma takes luck and preparation.

Ozma

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Ozma

Ozma

Ozma. He was a pain in the ass.

Ozma. He was a pain in the ass.

Ozma.

Ozma.

Ozma

Ozma

Ozma

Let's get the results on the final battle for the first round:

Ozma - 12
Nemesis - 1


Nemesis could only muster up one vote. It won't be going on to the second one, but that big spinning thing that is Ozma will.

And here it is, the second round:


Ruby Weapon - Final Fantasy VII
Ultima Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII
Omega Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII
Ozma - Final Fantasy IX
Hades - Final Fantasy IX
Quale - Final Fantasy IX
Tantarian - Final Fantasy IX
Penance - Final Fantasy X (International)


Remember, that list above is only to remind everyone what's left heading into the second round. The record of what's happening within the round is now kept exclusively on the first post of the thread for more convenient access.


All right, first battle of the second round:

Ultima Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII ("The strongest, ultimate monster. It's said to be impossible to defeat." - scan description)

vs.

Hades - Final Fantasy IX ("Who dares disturb my sleep? Leave at once, or you will die.")

Ultima Weapon.

Ultima Weapon.

Neither were a real threat, so it'll have to come down to which enemy I felt had the better stuff from which to steal (or extract). Only problem is, when using that method, I can't choose a clear winner. They're both awesome in that regard.

As for design, I think they're equally terrible.

Meh. Ultima Weapon, just because I like purple hues.

Ultima Weapon

Hades

Hades.

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Hades.

Hades.

Hades

Hades

All right, I wanted to update this last night, but I kept getting server errors. Well, doesn't look like any more votes came in, so I can just go ahead.


Our results on this one:

Ultima Weapon - 5
Hades - 6


So after it was starting to look like Ultima Weapon might have that one sewn up, Hades wins this one by a hair.


And next we have:


Ruby Weapon - Final Fantasy VII ("A rose that blooms once every thousand years in the desert." - Item description for the Desert Rose you win for beating this sucker.)

vs.

Penance - Final Fantasy X (International) (Sorry, I don't know of any sort of quote thing to attach to this one.)

Grrr. Making me go back on my word. Well Tyki Mikk made a beautiful out-of-left-field case for him, so what the hell.

Ruby Weapon

Penance.

Ruby Weapon, because I happen to live in the US.

Also, Ragnarok-inspired Transformer ftw.

EDIT: Haha. Damn skippy, K-neg.

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Ruby Weapon

Ruby Weapon