Indeed it does count-- I did count it, didn't I? In any case, sorry for mistaking you for a n00b. For the record though, the rules do request that you bold your vote, so if you plan to vote again, next time, please do so-- because technically I could ignore it based on that. Oh, and for the record, I wasn't doing it based on your post count, I was doing it based on your username that absolutely screams "FFVII fanboy."

... though I'm not sure I saw "Chocobo" winning by that much of a margin.
...
How could you not? lol
That gawdawful music is so obnoxious. Gold Saucer is at least tolerable.
(For me, Gold Saucer is actually borderline-favorite. lol)

Umm, before that one vote for Gold Saucer there was 8:0 for Chocobo, so shouldn't that qualify for blowout already?;) Not like it will change anything...

I'll change my nickname to CloudStrife4Life. ;D

How could you not? lol
That gawdawful music is so obnoxious. Gold Saucer is at least tolerable.
(For me, Gold Saucer is actually borderline-favorite. lol)

I'll admit I was also surprised. I actually found it a tough choice. Sure Gold Saucer is not bad at first, but I mean you can understand why it was here... Chocobo sucks yes, but you're never in a situation where you're forced to listen to it for a long time over and over even when completing the game 100%, and that's more than I can say for Gold Saucer. Still a hard choice though, I voted Chocobo based on the fact that the other didn't have a chance and I would feel bad voting against it after Agent quoted me. :p

Zak summed up my thoughts perfectly. That's exactly the reason I thought it might be closer-- because yeah, though "Chocobo" is bad, you at least aren't forced to endure it much. Whereas most players will probably spend a lot of time getting "Gold Saucer" pounded into their heads.

Has anyone heard the piano version of the Gold Saucer? It's pretty good if I do say so myself. Chocobo, however, doesn't have any redeeming qualities imho. I don't believe Uematsu would have ever composed a song that bad.

I don't believe Uematsu would have ever composed a song that bad.

X-2 music was composed by Noriko Matsueda.

I was surprised, her contributions to Front Mission & Bahamut Lagoon were actually pretty good.

And X-2 does, in fact, have some tunes that are actually really good. The problem is that it also has a fair few tracks that are either lackluster or just plain really bad.

And X-2 does, in fact, have some tunes that are actually really good. The problem is that it also has a fair few tracks that are either lackluster or just plain really bad.

Actually it's probably because the first thing they hear is Real Emotion... and it's kinda hard not to judge beyond that since that makes itself out to be the cover song.

Then again they do hear "Eternity Memory of Lightwaves" on the menu... so maybe. But... really there are many amazing tracks on the OST. That, Under Bevelle, Demise, Calm Lands, Infiltration, Guadosalam (which was better than X's), Summoned Beast, Gagazet, Young Alliance... all great tracks. Most hear Real Emotion and think "ahh X-2's OST is teenage pop", and it's true that a lot of the happy tunes have that tone, even the battle music is kind of mediocre and the scrapping of the classic victory fanfare. It really didn't recycle ANYTHING. But, the "dark" tracks are good.
But the three character themes for the girls, while they do have the pop-ish feel, they're actually pretty awesome. Well, not so much Paine's.

EDIT: "Vegnagun Starting" is also amazing.

I like Sphere Hunter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn8iOokgG4U). Got some Stevie Wonder keyboards underneath the wah-ed guitars. And then the trumpets that come on in... :D Nothing wrong with that.

And there's a nice Good Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPQNaoao5Y0) song...

And... Hmm...

I'm done.

Ok, so what's next?

Those anti-rumbles are pretty fun, so how about "Most annoying/hated character" or "Facepalm moments"?:D

Facepalm moments souns epic :) We should totally do that.

Facepalm moments get my vote! :D

FFIX: Cid changing from an oglop into a frog? Or rather stuff like Zidane going "Ooh... soft." ^_-

Agent said he's already got something decided on.

Indeed...


Don't worry about posting suggestions-- I'll have an idea for the next edition, but it may be about a week or so before we get started again-- I want a bit of a break.


Oh, and I really don't think I want to do another "anti-rumble" right away-- not one followed up immediately by another anyway.

Sorry Agent, I didn't notice that...

No biggie, Sz. Anyways, I've decided, and I'd like to do Coolest / Most Useful Abilities. Nominations are now open-- you can nominate any ability, so long as it's not a Limit, something that's considered magic, or one of Gau's unique Rages.

Some examples of what I mean -- Stock Break, Mime, Revive, etc.

Why can't it be a limit? Can limits from FFVIII be included since they can technically be manipulated to freely use whenever over and over again? I mean, that's practically all there is in that game other than magic which I find useless to cast. Like Quistis's blue magic... it's kind of a problem as in some games blue magic is considered a limit while in others it's not.

But I think limits should be included because sometimes they can really specifically come in handy for certain things, like Barret's Ungarmax for Ruby Weapon... but only those.

No, I think Limits/Overdrives/Quickenings are in their own category. For FFVIII, I'd imagine that, excluding magic, the abilities would be like Treatment, Revive, Kamikaze, Darkside, etc.

Agent, you are talking about in-battle commands only, are you not? For instance, this would exclude Encounter-None, Expendx3, HP+80%, and the like?

Yeah as good as most Overdrive attacks are in a higher category so I'd definitely understand that no such commands are to be included in a rumble like that.

And going for only in-battle commands or also including stat abilities: I wouldn't mind eitherway. =)

Can I nominate ability from FFT? Arithmeticks/Math Skill (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Arithmeticks). When I was younger I thought this ability was too complicated and a waste of time, but playing this game again on PSP I rediscovered it:) Math can be a deadliest weapon in FFT.

Also "Night Sword" /"Shadowblade" of Gafgarion and Orlandu, were cool abilities.

I really have to agree that Limits are separate. Sure, they are useful, but that's sort of the point, and since quite a few are useful, I don't want to get bogged down with a whole bunch of them being in the rumble. And yes, I am referring to command abilities, not support abilities.

All right, since it doesn't look like I'm going to get much in the way of nominations, I'll have to fill in a lot of the listing myself. So, here's what we have...


Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. - Many FFs
Revive - Many FFs
Kamikaze / Self-Destruct - Many FFs
Mime - Many FFs
Throw / Dart - Many FFs
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. - Many FFs
Sense / Libra / Scan - Many FFs
Steal - Many FFs
Mug - Many FFs
Stat Break - Many FFs
Jump / High Jump -Many FFs
Manipulate / Control - Several FFs
Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Trasnmute - Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2
Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Mix - Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
Sketch - Final Fantasy VI
Deathblow - Final Fantasy VII
Double Cut - Final Fantasy VII
Slash All / Flash - Final Fantasy VII
Card - Final Fantasy VIII
Devour - Final Fantasy VIII
Lvl Up / Down - Final Fantasy VIII
Treatment - Final Fantasy VIII
Entrust - Final Fantasy X
Triple Foul - Final Fantasy X
Use - Final Fantasy X
Quick Hit - Final Fantasy X and Dissidia
Bribe - Final Fantasy X and X-2
Horology - Final Fantasy XII
Numerology - Final Fantasy XII
Arithmeticks - Final Fantasy Tactics
Night Sword / Shadowblade - Final Fantasy Tactics


I've tried to include a good selection of both abilities unique to specific games and ones that span the various games. If you don't see your favorite, well, sorry, but nominations were open for several days and only a few were posted. Let's get started!


First battle...


Throw / Dart - Many FFs (A popular command ability that allows a character to throw a weapon. It is generally specific to the Ninja job class, if job classes are used within the particular FF in which it appears. In some games, you can buy types of shurikens or skeans specifically for the purpose of throwing. Also, in many cases, you can throw weapons that are in your inventory, oftentimes doing more damage than if they had simply been used in a normal attack. Other benefits of this ability are that it sometimes ignores defenses and it can be useful against aerial opponents.)

vs.

Bribe - Final Fantasy X and X-2 (A special ability specific to FFX and X-2. Instead of actually fighting an enemy, why not simply bribe it to go away and gain some potentially cool items in the process? In FFX, this ability was found on Rikku's area of the Sphere Grid, but like all abilities, all characters could eventually learn it. Though the gil needed was often steep, using this ability was a great way to gain some rare items, such as Door to Tomorrow, Gambler's Spirit and Underdog's Secret. In Final Fantasy X-2, this ability was gained via the Lady Luck dressphere. Once again, you could get some great items, such as various Lore and Tome items and the Supreme Gem, for a price. Or, by manipulating the Lady Luck's Random Reels, you could get CONGRATS!, which would not only bribe the enemy at no cost to you, but also gain you a bunch of gil.)

Throw / Dart

Use the duplicate item glitch on Excalibur in FFIV and start throwing them.

Bribe Most interesting way to get rare items I say.

Never use either, but I DID use CONGRATS! a lot so Bribe

Also Smarty, how come you haven't been at my rumble the last few rounds eh? :P

I forget...There's too many rumbles around here.

Bribe, mainly 'cause of CONGRATS! ;D

Throw...Only because of Final Fantasy Tactics.

Throw

All right...

Throw / Dart - 4
Bribe - 3


Close one, but Throw / Dart takes it by one vote. Next up...


Manipulate / Control - Several FFs (An ability that allows you to manipulate or control your enemies, sometimes even offering access to attacks that wouldn't normally be available. Can sometimes be used to easily learn types of Blue Magic or Enemy Skills and in the case of healing types, it can sometimes be the only way to do so.)

vs.

Devour - Final Fantasy VIII (A quirky ability from FFVIII that can be learned from either Eden or via the Hungry Cookpot item. When you use it, it will say that it is "censored... please stand by" and show an image either daffodils, the ocean or the flower field. If it's successful, you'll hear the monster being eaten, if not, a buzzer. Eating certain enemies can restore health and or status and there are some that will even boost one of the stats of the character that used the command. However, devouring the wrong enemies will result in unpleasant effects, such as loss of HP and negative status.)

Manipulate / Control

Manipulate / Control

Though I never really got around to trying the other...

Devour

Why not?

Manipulate

Though, Devour was useful if only you had a guide in your hands.

Manipulate / Control

Manipulate / Control

Manipulate / ControlThough I never really got around to trying the other...

Manipulate / Control

Manipulate / Control

Devour

Manipulate / Control - 8
Devour - 2


As for Eat possibly being the same thing, I suppose it is similar, but I seem to recall that with it, you actually get to see Quina do the eating, and what the ability actually does for the character is different (teaches Blue Magic.) In any case, Manipulate / Control wins easily.

Next battle...

Mug - Many FFs (An upgraded version of the Steal command that attempts to attack the enemy and steal from it at the same time. Can be good if you want to damage the enemy and get an item in the process. However, if you really want the item, then it might be something to avoid, because you could end up killing the target before the steal can be successful.)

vs.

Slash All / Flash - Final Fantasy VII (Ability granted by a command materia that comes in two flavors. Slash All grants a physical attack on all targets. Flash attempts an instant death maneuver on all targets. Can be very useful, assuming that the targets are susceptible to instant death. If not, it'll miss. Usually works pretty well though against Movers, and Magic Pots, once you've given them Elixirs.)

Mug

Mug for the win!

Slash All/Flash

Mug for the win!

Mug

Slash All/Flash


However, if you really want the item, then it might be something to avoid, because you could end up killing the target before the steal can be successful.

Mug

Slash All / Flash. FFVIII is the worst with that Mugging problem (unless, of course, you can equip a spell to elem-atk-j that heals the target).

Mug

Mug - 6
Slash All / Flash - 3


Mug moves on to the next round, despite the "kill the enemy" issue.


Next battle...


Sense / Libra / Scan - Many FFs (A useful ability found in most FF games. It tends work a bit differently from game to game, but the basics are always pretty much the same-- it provides information about the target's stats, such as the current HP and MP.)

vs.

Use - Final Fantasy X (Rikku starts with this ability in FFX, but like any other ability on the Sphere Grid, other characters can eventually use it. It's basically a special version of the "Item" command that allows the use of items that otherwise aren't usable, such as the Al Bhed Potions and various elemental gems.)

Sense / Libra / Scan
Why did they change the name to "Libra" anyway? Are Libras supposed to be especially perceptive?

Sense / Libra / Scan

Sense/Libra/Scan

Sense / Libra / Scan
Why did they change the name to "Libra" anyway? Are Libras supposed to be especially perceptive?

I'm going for Use, especially 'cause of the sweet combo attacks. While scanning is just, you know, scanning: hardly ever used it.

Sense/Libra/Scan

I can't really say I used it much in any FF other than XII, though.

Sense/Libra/Scan

I can't really say I used it much in any FF other than XII, though.

Yeah, I don't think I went once through the game without having a Bangle equipped somewhere in my party...

And by the way arthur, in the Japanese original version, I'm pretty sure every game it's called "Libra" originally. Americans changed the name to "Scan" and it kind of stuck, but some like XII and X-2 keep the name "Libra". But that is what it was originally.

Sense / Libra / Scan
Why did they change the name to "Libra" anyway? Are Libras supposed to be especially perceptive?

Libra is in XII atleast

Sense/Libra/Scan

I can't really say I used it much in any FF other than XII, though.

Sense/Libra/Scan. Never wanted to waste the items, you know?

Yeah, I don't think I went once through the game without having a Bangle equipped somewhere in my party...

That's kind of a bad idea since you can just create a gambit for someone to do it automatically whenever necessary. That accessory slot could be better used.

Sense / Libra / Scan - 9
Use - 1


Pretty one-sided there-- Sense / Libra / Scan easily moves on to Round 2. And arthurgolden, regarding your question about why exactly "Libra" is used, Final Fantasy Wiki offers to theories. The first suggests that it has to do with the qualities of the Libra zodiac, the other is that it stems from the Japanese romanization of the word "library."


Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. - Many FFs (An ability often associated with the Dark Knight class. Allows a character to sacrifice a relatively small amount of HP for a large amount of damage.)

vs.

Quick Hit - Final Fantasy X and Dissidia (In FFX, for just a small amount of MP this ability allowed a character to make a fast attack, meaning that they could get in numerous hits potentially before the enemy could even get a turn. It only cost 8 MP originally, but the cost was raised greatly in the European and International versions, to 36 MP. It appears at the end of Tidus's portion of the Sphere Grid. This one made a return appearance in Dissidia as a move for Tidus only, with five variations.)

The first suggests that it has to do with the qualities of the Libra zodiac, the other is that it stems from the Japanese romanization of the word "library."

Thanks for looking that up! With that information, it seems like the romanization theory might have more credibility. All Wikipedia says about a Libra personality is that they are "fiesty and fiery individuals"--which doesn't really seem to fit. Of course, that might not be the whole story. I know nothing about astrology.



Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etcetera~

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater

Darkside/Darkness/Soul Eater

Quick Hit. Never used the other.

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater - 6
Quick Hit - 1

A final word on "Libra" - arthurgolden, what Final Fantasy Wiki has to say about the Zodiac theory is that Libra is apparently known as the "scales of balance." So the idea is that the Libra spell could fit that because it helps you to balance the scales of the battle by giving you information needed to defeat the enemy.


On we go! Noticing a pattern so far-- abilities seen in multiple FFs so far have one every battle. Yet to have a single ability win that's specific to only or two games. Let's see whether or not that keeps up with this next battle...

Kamikaze / Self-Destruct - Many FFs (It is often a blue magic, but since it is also sometimes a command, I decided to include it. It is often used by enemies, but is sometimes made available to the player. Essentially, use of the command sacrifices the user's life to deal heavy damage to the target. Sort of like the Darkness command from the previous battle, but up to eleven. It is sometimes associated with the fire element.)

vs.

Sketch - Final Fantasy VI (Relm's special ability in Final Fantasy VI. By sketching an enemy, Relm could sometimes turn its own attacks against it. This ability was key in one of the Ultros battles. "Uncle Ulty really wants you to paint his portrait!" In early releases of the game [but neither Anthology nor Advanced], this command was highly bugged and activating the bug could have any number of strange effects, such as loading the inventory with tons of items, causing the game to freeze or erasing all data.)

Sketch

Self-Destruct

what Final Fantasy Wiki has to say about the Zodiac theory is that Libra is apparently known as the "scales of balance." So the idea is that the Libra spell could fit that because it helps you to balance the scales of the battle by giving you information needed to defeat the enemy.

Ah. Thanks for the extra info!


Sketch

Kamikaze / Self-Destruct

Etch-a-Sketch

Sketch! <3

I hav no idea wot this is! ..ill probably get in trbl 4 writin on it! Anyway.. <casts shell and aura> most joyful ff music is rufus's parade music! <hits u wiv limit break uv neva even seen b4> u died! <cue sad music>

So wtf? Wheres the games on this thing?

Dohoho!

Oh sure! Relaxin! :/ coz thats y we play ff! Lol! :)

Stupid moombas! -.-

Erm, okays, yeah. No idea what that was all about, exactly, but anyways...

Kamikaze / Self-Destruct - 3
Sketch - 4


And so the first time in this edition, an ability only found in one particular game wins a battle.


Next up...


Jump / High Jump -Many FFs (An ability usually associated with dragoon / dragon knight types. Sometimes it is only available for a certain character or characters in a game, in other cases, any character could use it if equipped with the right accessory, etc. The character will leap into the air, temporarily removing them from the battle and therefore not subject to attacks during that time. They will then come back down, landing a powerful blow.)

vs.

Numerology - Final Fantasy XII (A technick found exclusively in FFXII. It deals damage based on hits dealt, doubling each time. However, as FFWiki explains, it can be very inaccurate, so it could be troublesome to get it do large damage. Used enough, though, it can break the damage limit and do some very strong damage, however, most of the tougher enemies are immune to it.)

Jump/High Jump

Jump/High Jump

Jump / High Jump

Works great, is a solid move, and the other one seems... like shit.

Jump / High Jump

Go ahead and Jump/High Jump! :-D

Jump/High Jump

Let's keep this rolling, then...


Jump/High Jump - 6
Numerology - 0


Stat Break - Many FFs (A mixture of ability types that includes Power Break, Armor Break, Mental Break and Magic Break. Basically what it boils down to is that using one of these abilities will generally reduce some statistic of your opponents', such as their strength or magic. Some targets are immune to it, though.)

vs.

LV Up / Down - Final Fantasy VIII (A pairing of abilities unique to Final Fantasy VIII, available from the Tonberry GF. They allow you to raise or lower the level of a target, which can be very useful in this game where certain items and magic can only be gained from targets of a certain level.)

LV Up / Down I guess

Stat Break

Speed(Stat) Break

Stat Break

LV Up/Down

Stat Break

Stat Break

Stat Break - 6
LV Up / Down - 2


A fairly easy victory for Stat Break. Next battle is...


Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute - Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2 (An ability type in several FFs, the basic gist of which is that you can convert the enemy into an item, accessory, etc. Sometimes the easiest way to get rare items, such as stat boosting items or Ribbon accessories.)

vs.

Entrust - Final Fantasy X (An ability unique to Final Fantasy X. It allows you to transfer the whole of the users' Overdrive gauge to another character in the active party.)

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Trasnmute

Metamorphose

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Trasnmute

Entrust. Helps a lot during Arena challenges.

I only played FFVII and FFXII as far as the other one goes, and found that there were far better ways to get the item you were after.

Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Trasnmute

Entrust

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Trasnmute

As much as I love the morphing ability, it just wasn't always that superb. Which makes me vote more easily for Entrust. :)

I thought it was funny as hell with Quina.

Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute - 6
Entrust - 3


Entrust actually put up a bit of a fight, but the Metamorphose class of abilities still wins fairly easily. Next up...


Mix - Final Fantasy V, X and X-2 (Okay, so technically it's an Overdrive in X, but it still gets included here since it was just a regular ability in Final Fantasy V and X-2. A lot of people may not remember it from Final Fantasy V, but no matter which game it appeared, it had the same effect-- you can mix two items to produce special effects, some of them very powerful and some unique.)

vs.

Card - Final Fantasy VIII (Ability unique to FFVIII and its card game. It can turn an enemy into a card, though it has a much greater chance of doing so if you weaken the enemy first. Normally it will just turn the target into a card of that enemy type, but if you're lucky, you may get a rare boss card instead. This ability does not work on certain types of enemies, including bosses.)

Mix

I didn't tested Mix, but it gets my vote, it sounds pretty useful.

Never used either, but Mix I guess. Btw it was an overdrive in X, not X-2 (though I'm sure that was probably just a typo).

Also Argus that's interesting but I never really thought of what Quina does as "Morph"... though it makes sense now that I think about it.

Mix

Card

Mix, used it a lot, especially in FFX. ^^

Mix used it mostly in FFV :)

Card

Mix - 6
Card - 2


Mix moves easily to the second round.


Next battle...

Mime - Many FFs (Found in several FFs, the "Mime" ability allows a character to mimic the last action performed by either themself or ally without expending any MP. Generally works with any action except something like a limit break.)

vs.

Arithmeticks - Final Fantasy Tactics (Not having played Tactics, I'm not really familiar with this. But according FFWiki, it is also known as Math Skill and used exclusively by Arithmetician job class. Here's what it has to say: "The Artihmeticks command is unique in that it uses abilities from other command ability sets, specifically Black Magicks, White Magicks, Time Magicks, and Mystic Arts. However, by applying mathematical conditions to the spell, the Arithmetician can cast the spell on anybody on the field who meets the conditions, for no MP cost, and ignoring all distance and height. For example, by choosing the condition level, the number 5 and the spell Death, the Arithmetician can cast the classic spell Level 5 Death.")

Mime

Mime

Math Skill is so unbalanced in that game. But the Idea is great.

Yeah, Mime.

Mime

Arithmeticks

Mime

Math Skill is so unbalanced in that game. But the Idea is great.

Arithmeticks

Mime - 5
Arithmeticks - 2


Moving on with...


Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. - Many FFs (Associated generally with the Samurai class, it allows you to toss your gil at the target to achieve damage. It usually hits all targets and can break the damage limit in games such as X-2, such that it can easily be an instant win.)

vs.

Triple Foul - Final Fantasy X (An ability that appears on Wakka's portion of the Sphere Grid. It has a very high chance to afflict a target with Blind, Sleep and Silence for three turns, assuming the target isn't immune to those statuses.)

Coin Toss/Spare Change

Triple Foul

Coin is the most stupid skill in FF ever IMO. I can't understand how it still exist.

Coin Toss

Coin Toss

Coin Toss / Spare Change, far from a stupid skill. :\

Coin Toss / Spare Change fo' da lulz and pwnage.

Coin Toss/Spare Change. Very disappointed with Triple Foul.

Triple Foul

Coin Toss / Spare Change - 6
Triple Foul - 2


Not just flushing your money down the drain-- Coin Toss easily travels to the second round. Next up...


Revive - Many FFs (Seen in a number of Final Fantasies. Function can vary from game to game, but usually it will revive a single target to full HP without costing any MP. Notably, FFXII has a Technick called "Revive," but it seems to work more like the Sacrifice ability.)

vs.

Deathblow - Final Fantasy VII (Command ability granted by a special materia. It sacrifices accuracy to attempt to deliver a critical hit.)

Revive

Deathblow

Revive

Revive

Deathblow. 8)

Revive

All right, let's move on...


Deathblow - 2
Revive - 5


We're getting fairly close to the end of the round. Next battle is...



Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight, etc. (I originally listed this as simply Double Cut - Final Fantasy VII, but this sort of ability actually shows up in many of the FFs. In any case, it allows you to attack several times with a single command. Sometimes it may do reduced damage, but oftentimes you still get the full damage for each attack.)

vs.

Horology - Final Fantasy XII (A Technick in Final Fantasy XII that deals damage based on the characters' level and the game's clock. Damage for this skill caps at 4,009 HP... so, yeah...)

Double Cut/Barrage/X-Fight

Double Cut

Double Cut/Barrage/X-Fight

Double Cut/Barrage/X-Fight

All right, I think it's obvious that Horology isn't getting any votes, so let's move on...


Double Cut, etc. - 4
Horology - <font color="red">0</font> - 0


Next battle...

Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia (This one was originally a Limit Break of Cloud's, but since it was also a regular ability in other games, it gets included. In IX, both Beatrix and Steiner have this ability. It attacks all targets for twice the usual physical damage. Beatrix also uses it at the end of the final battle with her-- in that battle, it reduces the HP of your entire party to 1. In Tactics, it is an ability available to Soldier/Cloud and deals damage to a target equal to the amount of damage the target has already taken. Finally, in Dissidia, it is a Brave attack for Cloud that allows him to charge forward, ram the opponent, then leap into the air and slam the opponent into the ground with his sword.)

vs.

Treatment - Final Fantasy VIII (A command ability taught by either the Siren GF or the item Med Kit. It works basically like an Esuna spell, but with a couple of bonuses-- it can still be used when under Silence status and it can cure Doom status, but Esuna magic can't.)

Treatment - Esuna with no MP consumption, are you kidding me?

Climhazzard

Treatment

Climhazzard


Esuna with no MP consumption, are you kidding me?

There is no MP in 8. Treatment actually saves you from literally wasting Esuna spells.

There is no MP in 8. Treatment actually saves you from literally wasting Esuna spells.

Yeah I played the game & I forgot about that aspect, But I think I made my point with that statement.

Climhazzard

Climhazzard - 3
Treatment - 2


And now, the final battle of the first round...


Steal - Many FFs (A useful ability found in many FFs. Sometimes it's available to only one character (i.e. Zidane - Final Fantasy IX) or character class (Thief), but in other games it's made available to any character. Allows you to steal an item, obviously, but the way it works can also vary from game to game and based on the monster, with stealing be very easy to almost impossibly difficult.)

vs.

Night Sword / Shadowblade - Final Fantasy Tactics (Again, I haven't played Final Fantasy Tactics, so I don't really claim to know anything about this. But the Final Fantasy Wiki says that this is a sub-ability of Argath's Fell Sword techniques and it uses the power darkness to absorb an enemy's HP, with a range of 3 and an effect of 1 at a rate of 100 JP.)

Night Sword/Shadowblade

Night Sword/Shadowblade

Steal has low rate of success & systematically doesn't work well IMO.

Night Sword/Shadowblade

Steal makes my head heart at times. =\
On extremely rare occasion, I get something nice with it.

All right, let's move on then, I guess...

Steal - 0
Night Sword / Shadowblade - 3


Wasn't expecting that result, but I guess Steal is just frustrating.


That ends the first round, which it seems was mostly about cutting abilities specific to only one title, with only two exceptions. So here's what's left for the second round...


Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. - Many FFs
Revive - Many FFs
Mime - Many FFs
Throw / Dart - Many FFs
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. - Many FFs
Sense / Libra / Scan - Many FFs
Mug - Many FFs
Stat Break - Many FFs
Jump / High Jump -Many FFs
Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight, etc. - Many FFs
Manipulate / Control - Several FFs
Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute - Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2
Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Mix - Final Fantasy V, X and X-2
Sketch - Final Fantasy VI
Night Sword / Shadowblade - Final Fantasy Tactics


As usual, the above list is only for reference and you can take a look at the updated results in the first post of the thread. But now the first battle of the second round...


Throw / Dart - Many FFs

vs.

Mix - Final Fantasy V, X and X-2



P.S.: Unless some more people express their interest in seeing it continuing, I'm probably going to be shutting down the FFVIII Rumble soon. So if you are interested in seeing it still going, then you'll wanna stop by there and let me know.

Mix.

Throw/Dart

Mix

Mix it up!

Throw/Dart

Throw/Dart

Mix it up!

Mix - 4
Throw - 3


Mix it is, by a nose. Next battle...


Revive - Many FFs

vs.

Jump / High Jump -Many FFs

Tough choice, I like both.

Revive, I guess.

Revive

Jump

Revive

Revive

Revive - 4
Jump / High Jump - 1


Easy victory for Revive. Next up...

Mime - Many FFs

vs.

Sketch - Final Fantasy VI

Mime

Sketch

Mime

Etch-a-Sketch :D

Mime.

Mime

Mime - 5
Sketch - 2


And so one of the only two remaining abilities unique to a single game bites the dust.


Next we have...


Sense / Libra / Scan - Many FFs

vs.

Manipulate / Control - Several FFs

Sense/Libra/Scan

Sense/Libra/Scan

Sense/Libra/Scan

Sense/Libra/Scan

Sense / Libra / Scan - 4
Manipulate / Control - 0


Interesting, I kinda thought the battle might go the other way.


All right, next up...


Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. - Many FFs

vs.

Metamorphose / Morph / Poach / Transmute - Final Fantasy VI, VII, XII, TA2

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute

Coin Toss/Spare Change

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute

Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute

Coin Toss / Spare Change

Coin Toss/Spare Change

Coin Toss / Spare Change - 3
Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute - 3


Hrm, we have a tie. All right, to the tie-breaker we go...


Coin Toss/Spare Change - 6/8 = 75%
Metamorphose/Morph/Poach/Transmute - 3 - 6/9 = 66.6%


Coin Toss/Spare Change it is then, because of just one more vote against the other.


Next battle...


Mug - Many FFs

vs.

Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight, etc. - Many FFs

Mug.

Mug

Mug!

Only three votes? Three it is then.

Mug - 3
Double Cut / Barrage / X-Fight - 0


Stat Break - Many FFs (Note-- class of abilities that includes stuff like Power Break and Armor Break.)

vs.

Night Sword / Shadowblade - Final Fantasy Tactics

Stat Break

Hah, in XII, Dispel took this job, since just about every fucking enemy was protected/shelled or strengthened by default.

Stat Break

Stat Break

Stat Break

All right, I think four is enough. Let's move on...

Stat Break - 4
Night Sword / Shadowblade - 0


And so the final ability unique to just one particular FF falls.


And now, the final battle of the second round...



Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater, etc. - Many FFs

vs.

Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater

Climhazzard

Climhazzard

Climhazzard

Climhazard

You guys are forgetting to use BOLD.

I'll count votes if they don't use bold, I'd just prefer it if they did.

Darkside / Darkness / Soul Eater - 2
Climhazzard - 4


And that's it, that's the end of the second round. Let's see what we've got left for the the quarter-finals...



Revive - Many FFs
Mime - Many FFs
Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. - Many FFs
Sense / Libra / Scan - Many FFs
Mug - Many FFs
Stat Break - Many FFs
Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia
Mix - Final Fantasy V, X and X-2


As usual, that list is for reference and you can check the updated results in the first post the thread.

First battle of the quarter-finals is...


Mime - Many FFs

vs.

Mix - Final Fantasy V, X and X-2

Mime

Mime

Mime

Mime

I'll give one to Mix

I'll give one to Mix

All right, this has gone long enough. Let's end it...


Mime - 4
Mix - 2


And our next battle is...


Sense / Libra / Scan - Many FFs

vs.

Mug - Many FFs

Mug

Attacking and stealing; what's not to like?

Mug

Attacking and stealing; what's not to like?

Scan

Scan

Sense / Libra / Scan - 2
Mug - 3


So it's Mug by one vote. And our next quarter-final battle is...

Revive - Many FFs

vs.

Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX, Tactics, Dissidia

Revive

Revive

Revive

Revive

Revive.

Revive

Essential.

Right on, let's go ahead and end this--

Revive - 6
Climhazzard - <font color="red">0</font>


Obvious blowout for Revive, which is looking very good going into the semi-finals. But we still have one battle left before we get to those, so let's get to it!


Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc. - Many FFs

vs.


Stat Break - Many FFs (Set of abilities that include Mental Break and Power Break, amongst others.)

Stat Break

Yeah, Stat Break.

Yeah, Stat Break.

Stat Break

Stat Break

Hmm, not sure I expected that result, but here we go...

Coin Toss / Spare Change, etc - <font color="red">0</font>
Stat Break - 5


That's the end of the quarter-finals. That means it's time for the semi-finals, and here's what's left for the semis...


Revive - Many FFs
Mime - Many FFs
Mug - Many FFs
Stat Break - Many FFs


And the first battle is...

Revive - Many FFs

vs.

Stat Break - Many FFs

Stat Break. I don't get what's so great about Revive when there's a Magic that does the same.

Stat Break

Revive

Revive

Stat Break

Revive - 3
Stat Break - 3


Hmm... a tie. All right, looks like we'll have to go to the tie-breaker...


Stat Break - 6/8, 4/4, 5/5 = 75%, 100%, 100% = 92%
Revive - 5/7, 4/5, 6/6 = 71%, 80%, 100% = 84%


Stat Break it is then, to the final round. And our second semi-final is...


Mime - Many FFs

vs.

Mug - Many FFs

Mug

Mug