Revive.

The Rouge in me is coming out once again:P

Auto Haste

auto haste

Auto Haste

Auto Haste

This ends this evening -- last call for votes.

So I'd rather live than die hastily. Revive

revive

And we have...

Revive - 11
Auto-Haste - 5


Auto-Haste tried to make a comeback, no good, Revive on to the quarter-finals.

Next is...

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change - Many FFs

vs.

Initiative - Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change

Monies

Initiative

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change

Initiative, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond retarded.

Initiative, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond retarded.

Initiative, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond retarded.

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond awesome!

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond awesome!

fags.

Initiative.

Initiative, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond retarded.

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change

Initiative 'cause I hate surprise attacks.

Monies

You stole my reply:( But yeah Monies for me to.

Initiative

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change

Initiative, as throwing money at someone/something is beyond retarded.

I liked both but I will go with Initiative.

Why is it the past couple of nights I've tried to access these boards, they've been slow as molasses? Sarah!

Anyways...

GP Toss/Coin/Spare Change - 9
Initiative - 10


In a heated battle, Initiative wins by just one vote.


Next we have...


Manipulate/Control - Final Fantasy V and VII

vs.

Auto-Reflect - Final Fantasy IX, X and X-2

Manipulate/Control

Manipulate/Control

Manipulate/Control, far more innovative than Auto-Reflect methinks.

Manipulate for me.

Manipulate/Control

Manipulate/Control, far more innovative than Auto-Reflect methinks.

Auto-Reflect

Manipulate/Control

Auto-reflect generally caused more harm than good

Manipulate/Control

Manipulate/Control, far more innovative than Auto-Reflect methinks.

Auto reflect

Auto-Reflect

Despite a couple of last-minute votes for Auto-Reflect, I think the choice here is rather clear:

Manipulate/Control - 9
Auto-Reflect - 3


Two battles left in this round. First up...


Jump - Many FFs

vs.

No Encounters - Several FFs

Jump is good, but I'll go with No Encounters since that was also very helpful when I was trying to get through maze locations to find my destination or certain items and I didn't want to be pestured by the random encounters.

No Encounters

Jump Good ole Freya

No Encounters

No Encounters

No Encounters

No Encounters.

No Encounters.

Jump

no encounters is good but jump just seems classic. gotta vote for jump.

No Encounters

jump

No Encounters

No Encounters

Jump.

Jump!

Jump

Jump - 6
No Encounters - 10


Despite a bit of a last-minute really, Jump loses by several votes.


Final battle of this round...


Focus - Several FFs

vs.

Climhazzard - Final Fantasy IX

Climhazzard

Climhazzard even though I am in no way a fan boy.

Climhazzard

Eh, Focus. It's really useful in FFIX, and relatively useful in FFX. Climhazzard was basically just rather dull. I mean, Stock Break does the same thing, albeit slightly less powerfully. It's pretty boring imo.

Focus for the same reasons as Ceidwad_yr_Arfau.

Climhazzard. I liked the way it looked when Cloud used it. The definition of climhazzard is funny too.

Climhazzard. I never used Focus that much.

Focus

Climhazzard

Focus

Climhazzard

Climhazzard

Focus for the same reasons as Ceidwad_yr_Arfau.

Focus. Far more effective as a basic magic booster especially for building dress sphere masterings in X. Climhazzard was about as useful as Fireworks but looked better.

focus

Focus, for the same reason as before.

Climhazzard, I used it more than focus, not that I really used either anyway.

Focus.

Climhazzard

Focus, for the same reason as before.

Focus - 10
Climhazzard - 10


What a battle. Climhazzard was favored at first, but Focus really battled back. And now we end up with a tie. Well, when we have a tie in later rounds, we look to the past votes to determine the results. So...

Focus - 8/8, 12/12
Climhazzard - 9/13, 9/9


Amazingly, Focus swept the board in its two previous battles. Focus to the next round.


Oh, and looky, here is that next round. The quarter-finals...


Mug/Steal - Most FFs
Revive - Many FFs
Focus - Several FFs[
Manipulate/Control - Final Fantasy V and VII
Auto-Life / Reraise - Several FFs
No Encounters - Several FFs
HP Bonuses - Several FFs
Initiative - Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X


The above list is only for reference, because the updated list is in the first post.


First up...

Manipulate/Control - Final Fantasy V and VII

vs.

HP Bonuses - Several FFs

HP Bonuses

Manipulate/Control

HP Bonuses, 'cause it's basically more helpful than Manipulate/Control! A lot more helpful, even.

HP Bonuses

9999 represent.

Hp Bonuses

Manipulate/Control. HP bonuses don't mean VIII's %bonuses do they? Either way I depended more on the former.

HP Bonuses

9999 represent.

HP Bonuses

Manipulate/Control.

HP Bonuses. Everybody needs Health Points

HP Bonuses

9999 represent.

HP Bonuses

Manipulate/Control.

HP Bonuses

HP Bonuses

I would find nothing scarier as a monster than 3 guys walking up to me with big weapons and 9999 hp.

Manipulate/Control - 4
HP Bonuses - 11


HP Bonuses wins by a huge margin, interesting, I expected Manipulate/Control to be a least a bit more popular.


Next up...


Mug/Steal - Most FFs

vs.

No Encounters - Several FFs

Mug/Steal

No Encounters

Mug/Steal

Steal

Tough, but Steal, seeing how in some FF's you can only get certain items by stealing them.

Mug

Steal. One of the only methods to obtain rare equipment and items.

Steal

Mug

Nothing beats giving a nice thud on the noggin while robbing a monkey that wears trousers imo.

No-Encounters It helped me from not blowing my brains out when i was looking for something imparticular.

Mug/Steal.

I did not use these abilities much during my early years of Final Fantasy, but after playing a lot of different RPGs and finally coming back to the FF games, I find it hard not to mug or steal.

No Encounters.

Mug/Steal 8-)

Mug/Steal

Mug/Steal

Mug/Steal

No encounters

so helpful when your too lazy to even enter battles and want to get to where your going immediately.

Steal/Mug.

Steal/Mug

Mug/Steal - 15
No Encounters - 4


Big win for Mug/Steal. Next is...

Focus - Several FFs

vs.

Initiative - Final Fantasy VIII, IX (Freya only) and X

Focus

Initiative, but I use neither

Initiative as focus seems pointless to me. Everytime I used Focus I ended up killing the monster the same round, So I just wasted someones round.

Initiative for me. Focus was just a boost in magic or magical defensive stats.

Focus

Initiative.

Helped me out a lot when facing off against Malboros.

Focus

Focus

Initiative

Focus

probably focus I guess

Focus

Focus

Focus~

Focus.

Focus

Focus > Initiative :P

Focus

This ends this evening, last call for votes.

Initiative

Initiative

Focus - 13
Initiative - 7


Decent battle there. Focus wins by a fairly comfortable margin and is on to the semi-finals.


Last battle before the semi-finals...

Revive - Many FFs

vs.

Auto-Life / Reraise - Several FFs


Two abilities somewhat similar in nature. One restores a KOed member to life at no MP cost (or restores multiple if used in combination with Amarant's awesome Trance in Final Fantasy IX) and one restores KOed characters automatically, without you having to cast anything once it's active. Cast your votes!

Auto-Life I guess. Although its pretty silly having such similar abilities face off, tbh.

Well, I usually only do it when it's getting closer to the final battles. I didn't see the point of potentially having them both in the semi-finals. Of course, I'm one of the few rumble-managers here that sets the battles by my choice. I think just about everyone else draws them up randomly, so in those cases, it's quite possible something like it could happen simply by chance.

Auto-life

Auto-Life

Revive was more easily accessible and in more ffs than Auto-life. Took less support crystals to allocate in IX and less MP and time to cast in any of them instead of wasting mp to cast a temporary ability you won't know you need. Probably wears off quickly (haven't used Auto-life or whatever they call it in XI) like Blink/Aquaveil (yeah, who uses "aquaveil"?! :p) as well.

Revive

Auto-Life

Revive

Auto life

Revive

Revive

Revive

Revive - 6
Auto-Life - 5


Revive squeaks it out by just one vote after an early lead for Auto-Life.


And we're at the semi-finals. Here's what's left!


Mug/Steal - Most FFs
Revive - Many FFs
Focus - Several FFs
HP Bonuses - Several FFs


And here's the first battle of the semi-finals:

Mug/Steal - Most FFs (This has proved a steady favorite throughout this edition. Mug has been sort of ignored in many cases, though, as people generally prefer Steal. But there's no doubt the two are pretty much tied to each other. Stealing is needed generally for any of a number of rare and useful items. Thief characters also often play a very important role in the stories of Final Fantasy games, though Locke would say that they're "treasure-hunters.")

vs.

HP Bonuses - Several FFs (HP Bonuses is a support ability that has been another popular choice here. Obviously a high HP will serious increase your chances of winning the battle. HP bonuses can be anywhere from just 10% to as much as doubling the HP, but no matter how much it is, it's something you generally want to have.)


Two popular choices, but only one can make the final. Which will it be?

Man... tough choice. But I would have to go with Mug/Steal.

Mug/Steal

Mug/Steal

Mug/Steal for me helped me gain some very useful items.

Hp Bonuses

Mug/Steal.

Ahead on Our Way.
I've always loved this piece and I always will.

^ is it hard to check the last page of a thread ?_?

Mug/Steal, btw~

Hp Bonuses

HP Bonuses

HP Bonuses

Man... tough choice. But I would have to go with Mug/Steal.

Mug/Steal

Mug/Steal.

Let's end this -- this one was something of a walkover:

Mug/Steal - 9
HP Bonuses - 4


Also, Zak Van -- ROTFL.


And now our second semi-final battle. Maybe this one will be a bit closer:


Revive - Many FFs (This one just barely squeaked out a win in its previous battle. But it's certainly a popular choice, on the whole. Revive allows you to instantly bring back a KOed character without expending MP, and who doesn't like that?)

vs.

Focus - Several FFs (A skill that boosts a single character's magic power, usually. Can be used repeatedly for increasing gains. Has proven a more popular choice in this edition than I would have ever expected.)

Revive

Revive

Revive all the way. I hardly ever used Focus, or Jynx whenever I played an FF game.

Focus

I dont think Focus deserved to have got this far personally.

Revive

Revive.

Revive.

Revive

Focus, out of defiance.

Revive

Revive.

Oh by the way, sorry for my last mistake in the round before.. was just dozing off a bit that day - hope no confusion was caused >_<.

Revive.

I'm not going to extend this much due to the forum outage because the results look pretty obvious. Last chance to vote in this battle -- voting ends this evening.

Focus.

Focus

Revive.

Revive

Never bothered with Focus

Revive

And so that's...

Revive - 13
Focus - 4


A couple of additional votes couldn't save Focus, which does not make it into the final. And here's that final!


Mug/Steal - Most FFs (Steiner: "!!!? Oh, it's only you. Why are you all gathered here? Are you scheming another abduction or something?" Blank: "Hey, watch your mouth." Cinna: "We were just discussing ways to restore this district." Zenero: "Yeah." Marcus: "Old timer, you've got us all wrong." Benero: "Yeah." Baku: "We're just tryin' to rebuild our home. That's all. What are you doin' here? From the looks on your face, it seems like you got problems. What's troublin' you? Maybe we can help.")

vs.

Revive - Many FFs (Cara: "Grandpa! Please don't die!!" Butz: Galuf, don't die! Cure3!" Lenna: "Please. Life!! Faris: "Wake up, ye landlubber! Phoenix Down! Elixir!")


Two very different abilities. Both quite popular. But which will take the final prize? Cast your votes!

Gotta go with Revive on this one . . . Mug/Steal didn't help me all that much either.

Mug/Steal

ahhhh...very tough...Revive

Ahh see im torn here but I will go with my initial reaction and say Mug/Steal

Another for Mug/Steal

Mug/Steal.

Mug/Steal B)

Mug/Steal

Revive

Revive

Mug/Steal B)

Mug/Steal

Revive.

Mug/Steal

Revive

Revive

Mug/Steal

Revive cuz lack of Phoenix Downs.

Revive as creators made all ffs ridiculously dependent on it vs thinking there were actually things you needed with mug/steal even draw but you could beat the game with superfluous ease without the latter.

Revive

Revive - 10
Mug/Steal - 10


A tie! Astounding. Well, when there's a tie, we look to the results of the past battles. A tie for the final, this is is gonna be a doozy. So which one wins it? Let's see...


Revive - 12/13, 12/15, 11/16, 6/11, 13/17
Mug/Steal - 11/12, 11/13, 12/16, 15/19, 9/13


Those low numbers towards the end for Revive really did it in. Our big winner:


<font color="red">Mug/Steal</font>


So what's next? I was thinking of doing another "Worst / Most Overrated" edition. We've already done Most Overrated Character (Sephiroth.) What else would be good? Here's some ideas --- Lamest Plot Twist, Worst Music Piece, Most Over-Quoted Item, Most Boring Location, Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest. In fact, yeah, I think I want to do one of those. Please cast your vote for one of those choices, unless you feel you have an even better one to suggest, or a blockbuster idea for something not along those lines at all.

I like worst music piece and most boring location....


but I'll go for most boring location.

Lamest Plot Twist sounds cool.

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Location.

I like worst music piece and most boring location....


but I'll go for most boring location.

Most boring location sounds like a good idea. I'll go with that vote too.

The herd seems to have thinned to a choice between Most Boring Location and Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest. Please cast your vote now for one of these two only. If you have already voted, there is need to revote. If there's a clear winner by this evening, I'll get things started. If there isn't, I'll extend this till tomorrow evening.

Most Boring Location

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Hello. I apologize for interrupting. Does anyone know where to get the project altered beast full ost to download? I've searched everywhere and kingdom hearts insider and galbadia hotel only have the stage music, but doesn't have any of the boss music or beast music.

Just to clarify what I said earlier, there's no need to revote unless you voted for something other than one of the two choices that are now battling.


And why do moronic newbs always feel the urge to "apologize for interrupting" when they post a message that has nothing to do with what's being talked about in an apparently random thread they chose?

Because this "moronic newb" is asking for a little thing called help.

Well, great! Why don't you start a thread about it, then, instead of choosing a random one that has absolutely nothing to do with what you're asking about?


I mean, here's the line of thinking that apparently must be going through your head -- "Hey, here's a topic called the 'General Final Fantasy Rumble'. Here are people talking about a game involving a continuing series of eliminations involving Final Fantasy-related items. So I think I'll come and talk about Kingdom Hearts and Galbadia Hotel, neither of which have the least bit to do with anything that's being talked about." Great thinking!

Well why didn't you just ask that in the first place, instead of refering to us in a durogatory term. a lesson in people skills wouldn't go amiss. thanks for the advice

If you think that was bad, then I recommend unsubscribing from the board immediately. Oh, and while we're at it, don't post the same off-topic thing in multiple threads either.

Well why didn't you just ask that in the first place, instead of refering to us in a durogatory term. a lesson in people skills wouldn't go amiss. thanks for the advice

lawl.

Too late now wouldnt you think agent. As i'm receiving the help i asked for. I thank you for your time and effort it must have took for you to come up with such a long senteance in such a short space of time. Farewell.

Good riddance. Stay out of my Rumble thread. Any further posts you make in it other than votes will be deleted.

How can people be so damn stupid? O well, lets not let stupid people ruin the fun. I look forward to this next Rumble.

Most Boring Location

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

At least it back on topic. On another note, what do you guys think of devil may cry? :p
(dont answer this)

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest.

Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest

Most Boring Location - 5
Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest - 10


"Most Boring Subplot/Sidequest" is our choice, as it really pulled ahead at the end there.


I don't feel like drawing up the full list tonight. Here's the first battle:


We're Off a Journey to Obel Lake - Final Fantasy VIII (This subquest takes you to Obel Lake, where you skip stones and engage with a mysterious voice. Later, you play games with "Mr. Monkey" in a forest and hop of to various shorelines to find clues.)

vs.

Clasko is a Failure in Life - Final Fantasy X and X-2 (Clasko never seems to fit in the with the Chocobo Knights. He constantly falls behind and seems more in tune with helping the chocobos than helping the people the chocobo knights are dedicated to serving. In X, he eventually asks you if he should become a knight or a breeder and you can get a small reward if you tell him to be a breeder. In X-2, he's dumped the breeder thing and joins the Youth League, but fails at that too. Instead, you help him start his own chocobo ranch where the much cooler monster arena used to be.)


And while you're posting your vote, if you have any nominations, that'd be great.

Clasko is a Failure in Life (lol that name sounds pretty harsh).



I nominate 'The Queen of Cards' quest from FFVIII and 'Chocobo Hot and Cold' from FFIX

Well, I think he's the one that said it, not me.

Clasko is a Failure in Life

Clasko is a Failure in Life

An idiot who replaces the monster arena?

Clasko is a Failure in Life

We're Off a Journey to Obel Lake

I would find Clasko is a Failure in Life more boring than the Obel Lake Quest since I spend more time on all the FFVIII quests than FFX.

Clasko is a Failure in Life. I preferred the Monster Arena, it was so much more fun and challenging than a stupid chocobo ranch.

Clasko is a failure in life..yes..yes he is. :(

We're Off a Journey to Obel Lake MONKEY!

Clasko Is A Failure In Life

Clasko Is a failure

I would also like to throw in the Cactuar Quest from FFX (The one you need to do for Rikkus Sigil)

We're Off a Journey to Obel Lake.

Clasko is a Failure in Life

We're Off a Journey to Obel Lake

It was so boring and pointless, I didn't even do it!


I'd throw in the defend Fort Condor missions, aside from the one in the story line you have to do

The sidequest after you find Choco's Paradise and you have to visit every beach on the world map (Final Fantasy IX)

probably some more but I can't think now...