topopoz
12-24-2009, 10:48 PM
I'll Throw a 1d3 (Actually I'm going to Throw 1d4, If the result is 4 I'll throw again) for FFVII that I like..
1-Fighting
2-Still More Fighting
3- JENOVA
The result is 2
=D
For those who doesn't know how to read a 4 faced dice, the number of the base is the one that counts.
arthurgolden
12-24-2009, 11:40 PM
Still More Fighting is fine with me.
arthurgolden
12-25-2009, 06:33 PM
Happy holidays to everyone! The rumble will continue in the next day or two, but in the meantime I hope you all have a nice relaxing break.
Q-Tip Trepe
12-26-2009, 09:47 PM
These changes make me happy :3
Hope you have a nice break too Dx
arthurgolden
12-27-2009, 08:26 AM
Hope everyone had a good break! The rumble will start shortly. Here's the final list:
1. Anata o Yurusanai* — Toneless (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), Life is Like Fried Eggs (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), You From a Distance ~ Opening (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), Shadow Scat (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), Between Lie and Truth (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
2. Blue Dragon — The Land Shark Is Coming! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Ex-5FMpZ4), In Search of the Ruins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSnKwn7dwU), The Frozen Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVeyjgYudI), Mecha-Robo Corps Charge! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFtPxR60Zes), Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjxPj3al5U)
3. Chrono Trigger* — Primitive Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os4Cy6wcVYw), Creeping through the Sewers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKkjcVCLS4), Silent Light (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y3DqlYFqw0), Tyran Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVkEUmwstA), Sealed Door (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEB4ZmOCi3s)
4. Final Fantasy I — Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lViSeukzQOQ&feature=related), Temple of Chaos (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSlCBmL9ZwE), Matoya’s Cavern (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR06uwC4e20&feature=related), Gurg Volcano (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYdSH34z5hg&feature=related), Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPF3AwVPM4&feature=related)
5. Final Fantasy III — Eternal Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/206/-vDlAJWSEIg), Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG08jjdjCvE), Town of Water (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/186/e2Y3zSDawUk), The Invincible (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/175/siAba6SN3Z4), This Is the Last Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAYGwujyx4)
6. Final Fantasy IV — Theme of Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPQeYUgVVE), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqFz5IZSvM), Cry in Sorrow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6nLfKZ3ktg), Goblez Clad in Dark (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSQSv521V8), Troian Beauty (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6DSCriinkw)
7. Final Fantasy V — Ahead on Our Way (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok047Uxu3Yw), Cursed Earth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy4H27tJ3nk), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdFi4kaJZ_A), My Home Sweet Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV9S6NnZ9xA), Battle with Gilgamesh (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CMTXyExkeI)
8. Final Fantasy VI — Terra’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joRZL671Esk), Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqazbULRRA), Aria de Mezzo Carattere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqXb2FDK0Q), Dancing (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ios6zLDR8AI) Mad (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRGt_PvyT8), Devil’s Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK-y8w6YhA)
9. Final Fantasy VII —Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-EH6r9sSmQ), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-HBnhhtSmo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85KIhPXrIQ), Cid’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2WYkfGYD8k)
10. Final Fantasy VIII — Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pJ0UsmZXM), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXD5tJl30q0), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
11. Final Fantasy IX — The Place I’ll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLBrtpZ5gY), Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o), Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk), The Darkness of Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSi6_hbpo8), Bran Bal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4mbIP4vbM)
12. Final Fantasy X* — To Zanarkand (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TntdZOQRR8), Otherworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OONqel6f_8M), Auron’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iwYgd9N3Y), Jecht’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrUu-qvisvU), Seymour Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8)
13. Front Mission: Gun Hazard* — Gun Hazard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRjZLH1J4wk), Warning Two (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=01m36s), Secret Story (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=02m39s), Blue Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgsychQf61Y), Message of Genoce (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=04m34s)
14. Lord of Vermilion — Dawn of Vermilion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40G3Oo-NIVA), Black Dragon's Temple (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34hf1kFHBSc), Spiege Snow Plains (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf34kiMLY-4), Meranji Sand Dunes (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01WFSiaEJEQ), The Final Enemy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgSYD22nUyE)
15. Lost Odyssey — Neverending Journey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOsFLjBP94), Epsylon Range (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lntoikGwo), Ruins of the East (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbbVyF5us), A Mighty Enemy Appears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tr3NmURLQ), Dark Saint (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv6_bDfnHGc)
16. Rad Racer — Racing Track 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXTNj9wPvY), Racing Track 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dWg7pHhtPY), Racing Track 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZKGGl8XFY), Victory Lap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl5cwUAEpaA), Course Won (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPSWJcOWkqw)
For soundtracks with a *, Nobuo did not write every song.
- On Chrono Trigger, he also wrote: Boss Battle 1, Mystery from the Past, People without Hope, Bike Chase, and Burn! Bobunga! Burn!
- On FFX, he wrote the ones marked with NU found here (
http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/finalfantasy10_ost.htm).
- On Front Mission: Gun Hazard, he also wrote: Tension, Shiver, Move, The President's Deadly Fight, Ominous Wind, Silencer, Escape, Richard Millman, Cenktrich, Successful Attack, Genoce, Sorrowful Karion, Transaction, Notice, Resistance, Remains, 202, Uneasy, Determination, Gardian, Sentinel, Nature, Atlas, and Promise! Engagement.
- On Anata o Yurusanai, he also wrote You From a Distance ~ Reprise, Short Night, Promise (a Toneless reprise), Attention!, Deep Inside Me, The End, and Bossa de Drive.
arthurgolden
12-28-2009, 09:33 AM
Thanks for your patience, and I hope everyone had a great break! I've been bouncing around from one family event to another, which has kept me from the computer. But I'm excited to see both rumbles progress. So let's get started...
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 1, Fight 32
Bionic Commando (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNeuePZdTf0)
vs.
Mike Tyson�s Punch Out! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPWKlpbGtHE)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 1
Final Fantasy IX
- The Place I�ll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLBrtpZ5gY)
- Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o)
- Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk)
- The Darkness of Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSi6_hbpo8)
- Bran Bal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4mbIP4vbM)
vs.
Front Mission: Gun Hazard
- Gun Hazard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRjZLH1J4wk)
- Warning Two (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=01m36s)
- Secret Story (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=02m39s)
- Blue Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgsychQf61Y)
- Message of Genoce (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=04m34s)
- On Front Mission: Gun Hazard, Nobuo also wrote Tension, Shiver, Move, The President's Deadly Fight, Ominous Wind, Silencer, Escape, Richard Millman, Cenktrich, Successful Attack, Genoce, Sorrowful Karion, Transaction, Notice, Resistance, Remains, 202, Uneasy, Determination, Gardian, Sentinel, Nature, Atlas, and Promise! Engagement.
My votes are for Mike Tyson�s Punch Out! and Final Fantasy IX. Oh boy. I have tons to say, but for right now I'll have to cut myself short. Suffice it to say, I think Gun Hazard is a fascinating soundtrack for being a successful blending of Mitsuda and Uematsu's styles post-Chrono Trigger/pre-FF7, and I don't think the song selection found here does it justice (since what's available online is limited). But ultimately Final Fantasy IX is too broad-ranging, diverse in style, and memorable to be beaten this early in the rumble. Listen to both soundtracks and enjoy. This should be a fun rumble, start to finish. :)
Szczepan
12-28-2009, 04:30 PM
But ultimately Final Fantasy IX is too broad-ranging, diverse in style, and memorable to be beaten this early in the rumble. (...) This should be a fun rumble, start to finish. :)
Couldn't agree more:) Gun hazard is a solid soundtrack, but it was extremely out of luck to meet FFIX in it's 1st fight.
Bionic Commando
Link006
12-28-2009, 05:01 PM
For clarification, since I am not a fan of the Final Fantasy series, I will be judging the songs in the Uematsu rumble on artistic merit only.
I vote for Bionic Commando and FF IX.
nibbish
12-28-2009, 05:32 PM
I've got Bionic Commando and FF IX
Eshvoide
12-29-2009, 03:24 AM
Mike Tyson's Punch Out
Q-Tip Trepe
12-29-2009, 12:02 PM
Mike Tyson's Punch Out
Final Fantasy IX
ravenous19
12-30-2009, 03:50 AM
Punch-Out!
Final Fantasy IX
wolfmaster913
12-30-2009, 09:49 AM
Bionic Commando
Final Fantasy IX
Lens of Truth
12-30-2009, 11:25 PM
Hello everyone, hope you're all having a great holiday! Thanks for keeping things going Arthur - I don't know how you find the time!
My votes:
Punch-Out!
Final Fantasy IX
jakob
01-01-2010, 03:00 AM
Punch-Out!
Final Fantasy IX
Happy New Year everyone!!
topopoz
01-01-2010, 05:08 AM
Happy 2010 to everyone, may all your wishes be granted & Thanks to be who you are. =D
arthurgolden
01-01-2010, 08:40 AM
Happy New Years to all of our friends around the world! I hope 2010 brings you happiness and success and (as far as the rumble goes) a little bit of entertainment, too. I feel very privileged to be able to share my love of video game music with all of you and to have a space online where we can turn that mutual interest into something constructive. Part of my resolution this year is to keep giving as much of my time as possible to this thread.
And on that note, barring any major setbacks, I'll have the next round posted tomorrow. In the meantime, I can announce our winners from the last round as Mike Tyson's Punch Out! (6-4) and Final Fantasy IX (9-0). We have lots of fun match-ups coming up soon, so keep checking in. Thanks for your participation over the last few months, and take care over the holiday season.
Sincerely,
AG
arthurgolden
01-02-2010, 08:05 AM
Let�s get this started�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 1
Batman: Return of the Joker (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfrNNIdZP0)
vs.
Darkwing Duck (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43LKi75jO-8)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 2
Chrono Trigger
- Primitive Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os4Cy6wcVYw)
- Creeping through the Sewers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKkjcVCLS4)
- Silent Light (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y3DqlYFqw0)
- Tyran Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVkEUmwstA)
- Sealed Door (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEB4ZmOCi3s)
- On Chrono Trigger, Nobuo also wrote Boss Battle 1, Mystery from the Past, People without Hope, Bike Chase, and Burn! Bobunga! Burn!
vs.
Final Fantasy X
- To Zanarkand (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TntdZOQRR8)
- Otherworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OONqel6f_8M)
- Auron�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iwYgd9N3Y)
- Jecht�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrUu-qvisvU)
- Seymour Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8)
- On FFX, Nobuo wrote the ones marked with NU found here (
http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/finalfantasy10_ost.htm).
Apologies for the bare bones presentation, which will have to hold up temporarily. This computer is just about out of batteries, so I'll withhold my vote until I can fully listen to all of the songs again (hopefully tomorrow).
Q-Tip Trepe
01-02-2010, 01:12 PM
Batman: Return of the Joker
And as much as it pains me to vote against To Zanarkand, Chrono Trigger.
Szczepan
01-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Darkwing Duck
Final Fantasy X hmmm I always had an impression that it was Mitsuda's part of CT score, that made it so magical.
A little belated Happy New Year to everyone from me too:)
arthurgolden
01-03-2010, 09:18 AM
Batman: Return of the Joker
and
Final Fantasy X
Chrono Trigger is one of the greatest video game soundtracks of all time, but like Szczepan, I think Mitsuda's contributions are the ones that make the case for that. Nobuo's are excellent, but there is a greater variety in style and composition throughout FFX's soundtrack that ultimately is what won my vote. I can understand the argument that Silent Light, Sealed Door, or People Without Hope are so totemic and so good at drawing you back into the game's world, that they should win because the choice of sounds suggest something of the game's environment--in this case industrial/dystopic--more effectively than anything on Final Fantasy X does. But for me the fun of hearing all the variations of Seymour's Theme or the Normal Battle theme or Jecht's Theme, and the emotional weight of some of the pieces like To Zanarkand, and the interesting blending of classical and electronic instruments in songs like Auron's Theme (a technique that Nobuo later did to great effect in the Lost Odyssey soundtrack) create a more dramatic and dynamic listening experience.
Smarty
01-03-2010, 01:09 PM
Batman Return of the Joker
Final Fantasy X. I just can't vote against this. Chrono Trigger was awesome, but after having done some research it turns out most of the tracks I like are by Mitsuda. So in an Uematsu rumble I'm inclined to vote for FFX.
Link006
01-04-2010, 07:32 AM
Batman and FF X.
Lens of Truth
01-04-2010, 08:01 AM
Batman: Return of the Joker
Final Fantasy X
For much the same reasons as have been given already. Batman is just fantastic, and Chrono Trigger is all Mitsuda for me.
nibbish
01-04-2010, 04:06 PM
Darkwing Duck & Final Fantasy X
It's a little confusing how Chrono Trigger is even on this countdown, as almost every one of the memorable tracks is by Mitsuda, but oh well. If this were a standard rumble, it would probably be CT all the way, but like others have said, a Uematsu rumble should be judged on the merit of the Uematsu tracks.
arthurgolden
01-05-2010, 07:41 AM
Even with the extra day of voting to accommodate the forum updates, both Batman: Return of the Joker (5-2) and Final Fantasy X (6-1) maintained their leads to get easy wins. Next up�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 2
Super Mario Bros. 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TNWfSpEL7w)
vs.
Duck Tales (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdlwhzXs24k)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 3
Final Fantasy IV
- Theme of Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPQeYUgVVE)
- Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqFz5IZSvM)
- Cry in Sorrow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6nLfKZ3ktg)
- Goblez Clad in Dark (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSQSv521V8)
- Troian Beauty (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6DSCriinkw)
vs.
Rad Racer
- Racing Track 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXTNj9wPvY)
- Racing Track 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dWg7pHhtPY)
- Racing Track 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZKGGl8XFY)
- Victory Lap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl5cwUAEpaA)
- Course Won (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPSWJcOWkqw)
This is a fun round. Two major NES soundtracks butting heads, and a serious David vs. Goliath situation for the Uematsu rumble. My votes are for Super Mario Bros. 3 and Final Fantasy IV (even though Racing Track 2 rocks).
ravenous19
01-05-2010, 08:30 AM
Super Mario Bros. 3
Really wish I could vote for Duck Tales, even just for the Moon and Boss theme, but SMB3 gets it here from me.
Final Fantasy IV
Man I love this soundtrack.
nibbish
01-05-2010, 03:10 PM
Super Mario Brothers 3
Final Fantasy IV
jakob
01-05-2010, 04:24 PM
I can't believe you just made me choose between these. Screw it, I'm voting for my favorites. Personally, I think Rad Racer is better tune-for-tune: Four songs (and two jingles, one of which Arthur included) , all of which are great. Final Fantasy IV has 64 tracks, many of which are great, many of which are not. Final Fantasy IV is still one my absolute favorite games, but I digress:
Duck Tales
Rad Racer
Link006
01-05-2010, 05:03 PM
SMB 3, and Final Fantasy.
Eshvoide
01-05-2010, 07:35 PM
Super Mario Bros. 3 & Final Fantasy IV
I love Moon in Ducktales, and that's basically it. I like Overworld 2 (aka Athletic) song in Super Mario Brothers 3 and a couple of others which I can't think of the name right now. As for Rad Racer, I never heard of this music, nor am I a fan of driving games, but Final Fantasy IV had some really good songs that I can remember: Red Wings & Zeromus. I'm not too fond of the Battle of the Elementals though.
Lens of Truth
01-06-2010, 12:06 PM
Duck Tales
Final Fantasy IV
Szczepan
01-06-2010, 04:59 PM
Duck Tales
Final Fantasy IV
Q-Tip Trepe
01-07-2010, 04:57 AM
Super Mario Brothers 3
Final Fantasy IV
arthurgolden
01-07-2010, 06:13 AM
This time it�s Super Mario Bros. 3 (6-3) and Final Fantasy IV (8-1) with the big wins. Maybe not a surprising outcome, but it was nice listening to two old classics like Duck Tales and Rad Racer, too. I have good memories with those games. Next up�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 3
Gradius (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYpntuUYNVc)
vs.
Willow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgPLtX8AhPk)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 4
Lord of Vermilion
- Dawn of Vermilion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40G3Oo-NIVA)
- Black Dragon's Temple (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34hf1kFHBSc)
- Spiege Snow Plains (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf34kiMLY-4)
- Meranji Sand Dunes (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01WFSiaEJEQ)
- The Final Enemy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgSYD22nUyE)
vs.
Lost Odyssey
- Neverending Journey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOsFLjBP94)
- Epsylon Range (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lntoikGwo)
- Ruins of the East (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbbVyF5us)
- A Mighty Enemy Appears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tr3NmURLQ)
- Dark Saint (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv6_bDfnHGc)
For me, the choice between the NES soundtracks is harder than the one between the Uematsu soundtracks. Both Gradius and Willow have songs that are classics for the system, and both have distinct styles: Gradius is more in line with the upbeat, extremely catchy, melody-based music that was characteristic of 8-bit platformers and shmups and the like, whereas Willow experiments with sounds and textures more, ranging from the use of dissonance in the unusual fanfare-style opening track to the removal of most channels in the flute solo piece. It's hard to qualify which soundtrack is better, because both are good at what they do, but I probably prefer listening to Willow more than Gradius. So it'll get my vote this time. As for the Uematsu soundtracks, I'm hoping Lost Odyssey goes the distance, or is at least one of the finalists. If you're interested, Battlefield (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpwyVkje9Q) and Saman, Town of Merchants (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWzQwIGSdcE) are also excellent tracks, as are about a dozen other tracks not listed here. While Lord of Vermilion rocks, I think Lost Odyssey may just be Uematsu's finest work.
jakob
01-07-2010, 06:27 AM
I have to say Gradius.
I try to listen to most of the soundtrack for each candidate in these rumbles before voting if I haven't played the game (which is the case for both NES suitors), and Gradius just seemed to have more tracks that made me have a desire to continue listening. I did enjoy Willow, though.
topopoz
01-07-2010, 07:50 AM
Willow
Lost Odyssey
Smarty
01-07-2010, 01:00 PM
Gradius
And while I think both Lord of Vermillion and Lost Odyssey have excellent soundtracks, Uematsu really excels at RPG soundtracks. So Lost Odyssey for me. Lord of Vermillion was awesome too, though.
Eshvoide
01-07-2010, 08:52 PM
Up, Up, Down, Down, L, R, L, R, B, A, -start- >Gradius<
Szczepan
01-07-2010, 11:05 PM
Willow
Lost Odyssey LoV deserves some love, but not against this one
wolfmaster913
01-08-2010, 01:48 AM
Gradius
Lost Odyssey
nibbish
01-08-2010, 03:31 PM
I have to give it to Gradius.
Q-Tip Trepe
01-08-2010, 10:20 PM
Easily Gradius and Lost Odyssey.
I wonder though, why Final Fantasy II wasn't shortlisted for the rumble? In my opinion, it's one of Uematsu's better soundtracks, and easily his best NES Final Fantasy.
arthurgolden
01-08-2010, 11:32 PM
I wonder though, why Final Fantasy II wasn't shortlisted for the rumble? In my opinion, it's one of Uematsu's better soundtracks, and easily his best NES Final Fantasy.
I spent a lot of time thinking about this. FFII was on the list originally. However, through the process of recommendations and revision we decided there were other worthy soundtracks and we needed to bump something.
Here was my thinking. Final Fantasy I had to be on the list. It's a classic, it's popular, it has historical significance for the FF series and for Uematsu. It couldn't go. Final Fantasy IV-X were much more expansive, ambitious, and successful soundtracks relative to the NES music, besides being very popular themselves. And most would contend that's where Uematsu's strongest work is. They couldn't go. Next were Blue Dragon, Chrono Trigger, Front Mission: Gun Hazard, Lord of Vermilion, and Lost Odyssey, all of which I felt were successful soundtracks that showed different sides of Uematsu and would spice the rumble up. Perhaps Chrono Trigger was a weak link because of Uematsu's limited contributions, but...maybe not. It's one of my favorite soundtracks, I like Uematsu's work on it, I thought it had a chance, and people didn't mention it when making suggestions. So I decided to let it stay.
That left FFII vs. FFIII. And I felt FFIII was stronger, although that's, of course, highly debatable. The two soundtracks are more similar than different, and a lot of the songs match up with one another--for instance, Revivification (
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/2/vme03BOxZEE) from FFII uses a short repetitive arpeggio and bass line to carry the song just like Eternal Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/206/-vDlAJWSEIg) from FFIII. The difference is that while Revivification ends up being more of an ambient track, Eternal Wind's melody adds an extra dimension that's skillfully done and emotionally complex, like so many of Uematsu's later melodies. It's not sad, exactly, and it's not heroic. It's not restful, but it's not hyperkinetic either. It's somewhere in between all of those, and that makes it interesting for me, even after listening to it for so many years. Of course, this is an arbitrary comparison--these two songs aren't really written for the same purpose. But on principle, I heard little things like that, the intangible qualities of Uematsu's music, throughout FFIII's soundtrack that through personal preference made me go with it over FFII.
You could make a great case for FFII, as you say. The Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/5/0tboZy6x_bM) does all of the things I'm talking about above, but out of my own personal preference isn't as compelling a listening experience because the bass line feels a little obtrusive and clunky to me. On some of the less conspicuous pieces, though, like The Magician's Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/9/p0xuTqvQ01U), the bass writing is fantastic and dynamic. You know, it's where you place the emphasis.
I guess more than anything, FFIII just seemed like the bigger turning point in Uematsu's career. Tracks from FFII like Imperial Army Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/7/eJ_SQUQhQnU) and Ancient Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/10/_qPBODxSxyw) could have fit right into the FFI soundtrack. But songs from FFIII like Town of Water (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/186/e2Y3zSDawUk) and This Is the Last Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAYGwujyx4)...I mean, holy shit. Those are little precursors to Aerith's Theme and his heavy metal work, respectively, besides being structural models for how he composed types of songs for types of situations later on. And on top of that, the experimentation with the sounds you could get out of the NES, the way water is suggested by the types of sounds and the tempo of Town of Water, and the way This Is the Last Battle mimics an echo effect in the opening and takes that sharp turn into double-time before exploding into a weird Follin-esque wobbly kind of sound--all of this mad, building pressure to set up something that's more like a dance track than a battle theme... For me, that's cool, and fun to hear every time. I don't know. That's my take.
But I'm a worrier. I thought long and hard about keeping FFII on the list, even going to a asymmetrical first round with one fight involving three soundtracks. Ultimately, it didn't seem worth it. But I hope this gives a little more insight into how that decision came about. I guess the piece of string to tie around your finger is to always check the song or soundtrack lists when we're voting on what goes in the rumble, too. I'm happy to oblige, if someone wants to see their favorite go up to the plate. :)
Q-Tip Trepe
01-09-2010, 12:16 AM
k
jakob
01-09-2010, 12:26 AM
Arthur always has a good reason :) :)
arthurgolden
01-09-2010, 08:01 AM
Revised: Arthur takes any opportunity to nerd out if it means avoiding work, and then feels embarrassed when he re-reads his rants. :(
arthurgolden
01-09-2010, 08:52 AM
Gradius (6-3) and Lost Odyssey (6-0) are the next two to move on. And amazingly, we�re already at the halfway point for the first round of the Uematsu rumble. Next up�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 4
Final Fantasy III (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksme4TBFmMg)
vs.
Guardian Legend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKvXQwwmoBY)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 5
Final Fantasy I
- Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lViSeukzQOQ)
- Temple of Chaos (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSlCBmL9ZwE)
- Matoya�s Cavern (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR06uwC4e20)
- Gurg Volcano (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYdSH34z5hg)
- Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPF3AwVPM4)
vs.
Final Fantasy VIII
- Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M)
- Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pJ0UsmZXM)
- The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA)
- Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXD5tJl30q0)
- The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
By weird coincidence, next up is FFIII, which has a tough match-up against Guardian Legend. I like both of these soundtracks a lot, but I'm going to give the slight edge to Final Fantasy III. On the other hand, I'll give a much bigger edge to Final Fantasy VIII, one of my favorite soundtracks from the FF series.
By the way, if you haven't heard of him, lonlonjp (
http://www.youtube.com/user/lonlonjp) does a gorgeous version of Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCN-0b_qfXc) in front of a little waterfall, as well as covers of tons of the other songs in this rumble, including a bananas version of Corridors of Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94x9amQo-0I) from Chrono Trigger that gives me chills. Those may not be the best introductions to him, because the sound quality isn't ideal in either one, but the production value and musicianship have improved significantly since then. He's a really nice guy, too.
Eshvoide
01-09-2010, 07:33 PM
Guardian Legend & Final Fantasy I
- I only seem to like 6 songs from FF8.
* Holy s---, that guy is VERY good with the guitar. I would like to see this music composed on a mandarin. :D
jakob
01-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Wow, the Uematsu one is tough for me this time, but I like Final Fantasy I far too much.
wolfmaster913
01-10-2010, 02:41 AM
Guardian Legend
Final Fantasy I
ravenous19
01-10-2010, 07:00 AM
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy VIII
Link006
01-10-2010, 07:44 AM
FF III & VIII.
Szczepan
01-10-2010, 06:21 PM
FFIII
FFI
jakob
01-10-2010, 08:15 PM
Just in case you tally votes as they are had, Arthur, I changed my vote :D . Final Fantasy I is still one of my favorite games, and the music played a big part.
Lens of Truth
01-10-2010, 10:24 PM
None of the games in this selection have nostalgia on their side for me (never played a single one :shock:). So, going purely on the tracks showcased here:
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy VIII
I'm getting good things from all of them though - especially Gurg Volcano! :)
arthurgolden
01-11-2010, 04:24 AM
Just in case you tally votes as they are had, Arthur, I changed my vote :D . Final Fantasy I is still one of my favorite games, and the music played a big part.
Cool. Thanks for the heads-up.
By the way, we still a few hours left in this fight, but there's a 4-4 tie in the Uematsu Rumble between Final Fantasy I and Final Fantasy VIII for anyone who wants to break it. :)
nibbish
01-11-2010, 03:23 PM
Guardian Legend & Final Fantasy VIII
arthurgolden
01-11-2010, 07:51 PM
Thanks to nibbish for the tie-break! That means it�s Final Fantasy III (5-3) and Final Fantasy VIII (5-4) moving on after two really close fights. And now for two more that will probably be close�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 5
Mega Man III (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCL2lMUP_U4)
vs.
Ninja Gaiden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e23LwxQolpc)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 6
Final Fantasy V
- Ahead on Our Way (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok047Uxu3Yw)
- Cursed Earth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy4H27tJ3nk)
- Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdFi4kaJZ_A)
- My Home Sweet Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV9S6NnZ9xA)
- Battle with Gilgamesh (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CMTXyExkeI)
vs.
Final Fantasy VII
- Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-EH6r9sSmQ)
- Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-HBnhhtSmo)
- One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU)
- Aerith�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85KIhPXrIQ)
- Cid�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2WYkfGYD8k)
Gotta keep it short for now. My votes are for Mega Man III and Final Fantasy VII.
Eshvoide
01-11-2010, 09:10 PM
Mega Man III & Final Fantasy VII
nibbish
01-11-2010, 09:54 PM
I'd love to rock the boat and vote for Gaiden, but Mega Man III is easily one of the top 5 NES soundtracks.
MM3 and FFVII
Q-Tip Trepe
01-11-2010, 11:09 PM
Mega Man III
Final Fantasy VII
ravenous19
01-12-2010, 12:53 AM
Just to be different:
Mega Man III
Final Fantasy VII
jakob
01-12-2010, 01:48 AM
Ninja Gaiden
Final Fantasy VII
I like your joke, ravenous.
topopoz
01-12-2010, 02:34 AM
Ninja Gaiden
Final Fantasy VII
wolfmaster913
01-12-2010, 05:42 AM
Mega Man III
Final Fantasy VII
Szczepan
01-12-2010, 02:35 PM
Mega Man III
Final Fantasy V Can't let it go without at least one vote
Link006
01-12-2010, 04:18 PM
I'm still disappointed Ninja Gaiden III was out after one round and now it looks like the original is following it; a true tragedy.
Ninja Gaiden by a landslide and FF VII by the slimmest of margins.
Lens of Truth
01-12-2010, 04:46 PM
Mega Man III
Final Fantasy VII
Both tough calls yet again!
arthurgolden
01-13-2010, 07:33 PM
Well, I was way off when I thought it would be close. Far from it, Mega Man III (8-3) and Final Fantasy VII (10-1) were on the verge of blow-outs within the first 24 hours. Next up are some slightly more obscure titles. A special note: all of the links for Anata o Yurusanai go to the same full-soundtrack download page provided by Szczepan (thanks again!). I linked the song titles individually just to maintain visual conformity. Probably very few of us have heard this soundtrack because of its rarity, so enjoy!
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 6
Maniac Mansion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FTgMk-W1M8)
vs.
Final Fantasy II (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeY26bH2Sn0)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 7
Anata o Yurusanai
- Toneless (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
- Life is Like Fried Eggs (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
- You From a Distance ~ Opening (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
- Shadow Scat (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
- Between Lie and Truth (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
- On Anata o Yurusanai, Nobuo also wrote You From a Distance ~ Reprise, Short Night, Promise (a Toneless reprise), Attention!, Deep Inside Me, The End, and Bossa de Drive.
vs.
Blue Dragon
- The Land Shark Is Coming! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Ex-5FMpZ4)
- In Search of the Ruins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSnKwn7dwU)
- The Frozen Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVeyjgYudI)
- Mecha-Robo Corps Charge! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFtPxR60Zes)
- Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjxPj3al5U)
My votes are for Final Fantasy II (although it's pretty much a tie for me in this fight) and Blue Dragon.
Also, I put up something new on our group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20). My next projects are to update the Mega Man song selection and to work on a Best of Metal Gear thread, so that we have more options for 32-song rumbles.
Smarty
01-13-2010, 08:23 PM
Final Fantasy II
Blue Dragon
nibbish
01-13-2010, 09:44 PM
Maniac Mansion & Blue Dragon
wolfmaster913
01-14-2010, 02:43 AM
Maniac Mansion
Anata o Yurusanai
arthurgolden
01-15-2010, 03:55 PM
I'm going to let this run an extra day since it seems like a lot of people didn't log in yesterday or today and might need the extra time to listen to all of the music.
Lens of Truth
01-15-2010, 04:46 PM
Final Fantasy II
Blue Dragon
Interesting to hear a little bit of Swan Lake in FFII- I wonder why? :confused:
I couldn't really get into Anata o Yurusanai at all I'm afraid. A bit too cheesy perhaps. Having said that, I loved the witty retro-ness of 'In Search of the Ruins' from Blue Dragon.
nibbish
01-15-2010, 06:11 PM
I gave Anata o Yurusanai another try via the download link, and I have to agree with Lens, too cheesy by far for me. Nothing to really grab on to for me.
I wasn't a real fan of Blue Dragon as a game, but the soundtrack was pretty sweet.
Szczepan
01-15-2010, 07:04 PM
Final Fantasy II
Anata o Yurusanai While AoY is surely not the best of Uematsu, it's still interesting to see him experimenting and trying new styles;) While listening to Blue Dragon i get the feeling, that he didn't really enjoy it while composing...
ravenous19
01-16-2010, 03:40 AM
Final Fantasy II
Blue Dragon
arthurgolden
01-16-2010, 09:37 PM
Thanks to everyone who voted! It’ll be Final Fantasy II and Blue Dragon moving on, both by 5-2 margins. And now for the final fight of the first round of the Uematsu rumble…
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 7
Contra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFwGgFOEZb4)
vs.
Castlevania II (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwiKP7etEnc)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 1, Fight 8
Final Fantasy III
- Eternal Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/206/-vDlAJWSEIg)
- Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG08jjdjCvE)
- Town of Water (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/186/e2Y3zSDawUk)
- The Invincible (
http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/175/siAba6SN3Z4)
- This Is the Last Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAYGwujyx4)
vs.
Final Fantasy VI
- Terra’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joRZL671Esk)
- Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqazbULRRA)
- Aria de Mezzo Carattere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqXb2FDK0Q)
- Dancing (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ios6zLDR8AI) Mad (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRGt_PvyT8)
- Devil’s Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK-y8w6YhA)
Way back in 1994, I was browsing through the Super Nintendo games at the family-owned movie rental store down the street from my parents' house, and I came across Final Fantasy IV. Knowing nothing about it, I brought it home, played it, loved it, and asked for it for my birthday. Then, come my birthday, my mom handed me a small package in the tell-tale rectangular shape, and I opened it up, and instead of a bright red background with a gleaming sword, I was looking at a purple shadow looming over Mog. My mom had bought me Final Fantasy VI instead of Final Fantasy IV, plus a strategy guide, and she looked proud for getting her son the cool gift he wanted. I didn't tell her it was the wrong game, and although I was disappointed, I was intrigued to give it a try since I didn't even know a sequel to FFIV existed. Of course, it ended being one of the greatest games of all time, and more specifically for our purposes, it also had one of the greatest video game soundtracks for its time, which I wouldn't have noticed if Peter Olafson, the author of the strategy guide I was using, didn't repeatedly mention how we should wait a second before moving on to the next area so that we could enjoy the music. Not exactly what you'd expect from a strategy guide, but I'm glad he told me to do that, because I began to love Nobuo Uematsu as much as the game itself. When Final Fantasy Anthology came out with a soundtrack CD included, I bought that, too, and remembered all the songs though I hadn't heard them in years, and, well, here we are. Who knows if I would have sought out FFS if my mom hadn't accidentally bought me the wrong game.
My votes are for Contra and Final Fantasy VI.
arthurgolden
01-19-2010, 11:27 PM
Hey guys. I'm going to let this run for three days and see if most of us are back by then.
Glad the forums are back up.
wolfmaster913
01-20-2010, 01:15 AM
Contra
Final Fantasy III
FFIII is just amazing. One of the best of the FFs, imo. Also, welcome back everyone.
Eshvoide
01-20-2010, 03:49 AM
Final Fantasy VI & (Contra or Castlevania II... such both good games and soundtracks >.<... okay I'm leaning towards Contra)
Smarty
01-20-2010, 02:16 PM
Final Fantasy VI I mean the game has a whole opera scene. You can't just ignore a masterpiece like that.
Castlevania II by far
topopoz
01-20-2010, 02:42 PM
I'm not that fond to FFVI or III OST, but my vote goes for Final Fantasy VI, Terra's Theme & Dancing Mad, are one of the best songs composed by Uematsu.
Castlevania Or Contra.... I'm a big fan of Castlevania, but my vote goes for Contra, Simon's Quest is a very long game, I think it needed more songs.
Szczepan
01-20-2010, 03:20 PM
Final Fantasy VI
Castlevania II
nibbish
01-20-2010, 03:57 PM
Contra
Final Fantasy VI (It's a top 3 VG soundtrack for me, and easily my favorite Uematsu soundtrack.)
arthurgolden
01-22-2010, 09:36 PM
So it�s Contra (5-2) and Final Fantasy VI (6-1) moving on, and with that it�s time for Round 2 of the Uematsu rumble�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 8
Super Mario Bros. (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7dX7kZlzUY)
vs.
Life Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mv4YfP4uqM)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 2, Fight 1
Final Fantasy IX
- The Place I�ll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLBrtpZ5gY)
- Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o)
- Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk)
- The Darkness of Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSi6_hbpo8)
- Bran Bal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4mbIP4vbM)
vs.
Lost Odyssey
- Neverending Journey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOsFLjBP94)
- Epsylon Range (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lntoikGwo)
- Ruins of the East (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbbVyF5us)
- A Mighty Enemy Appears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tr3NmURLQ)
- Dark Saint (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv6_bDfnHGc)
For the first one, I've gotta go with Super Mario Bros. However, the choice between Uematsu soundtracks isn't so easy. Here are the full soundtracks for Final Fantasy IX (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLBrtpZ5gY&feature=PlayList&p=2DFE2EE5AF88750D) and Lost Odyssey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-rDuve72I&feature=PlayList&p=85900B2B86E19EC4) on YouTube, if you want to hear more. They're both well worth a listen and stand among Uematsu's best work. After listening back to both of them, I'm leaning towards Lost Odyssey. I can't say enough about it (and if it wins, I will say something about it next round :)).
Eshvoide
01-22-2010, 11:19 PM
Life Force
Lens of Truth
01-23-2010, 01:03 AM
Right, I'm not going to miss out this time :)
Super Mario Bros
Mario is just timeless for me. Never tire of the genius of the overworld theme. Also LOVE the water waltz and that fiendish little chromatic run in the underground theme. How can so few notes be so brilliant?! :D
Lost Odyssey
Arthur and Sirusjr won me over to this gem in the first place, so that's my 2nd vote. Looking forward to further comment AG..!
jakob
01-23-2010, 01:20 AM
Mario is just timeless for me.
Super Mario Brothers
Lost Odyssey
There are some redeeming tunes in FF9 but not enough to persuade me to vote for it.
topopoz
01-23-2010, 01:36 AM
Life Force
Final Fantasy IX
Smarty
01-23-2010, 07:31 AM
Life Force
Final Fantasy IX Now this is what I call a complete soundtrack.
wolfmaster913
01-23-2010, 07:36 AM
Life Force
Final Fantasy IX
It should be said that it was very difficult for me to choose between FFIX and Lost Odyssey with FFIX winning by sheer nostalgia factor. I haven't played LO before, but with that kind of music, I will definitely have to give it a shot when I can find a copy.
arthurgolden
01-24-2010, 12:36 PM
We still a few hours left in this fight, but there's a 3-3 tie in the Uematsu Rumble between Final Fantasy IX and Lost Odyssey for anyone who wants to break it. The NES rumble is very close, too.
Szczepan
01-24-2010, 02:56 PM
L(F+O) ;3
It was an extremely difficult choice in both (especially LO vs FFIX), but despite my nostalgia for FFIX and SMB, I think that their opponents deserve to advance further. Besides, without LO Uematsu rumble will turn into a battle between FF's only, as i don't think Blue Dragon has a slightest chance to change anyhing here.
arthurgolden
01-24-2010, 10:41 PM
Thanks to Szczepan for the tie-break! That means Life Force (5-3) and Lost Odyssey (4-3) are moving on. Next up�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 9
Metroid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZnQT97A2kk)
vs.
Dr. Mario (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpStvem3HI)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 2, Fight 2
Final Fantasy VI
- Terra�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joRZL671Esk)
- Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqazbULRRA)
- Aria de Mezzo Carattere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqXb2FDK0Q)
- Dancing (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ios6zLDR8AI) Mad (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRGt_PvyT8)
- Devil�s Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK-y8w6YhA)
vs.
Final Fantasy IV
- Theme of Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPQeYUgVVE)
- Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqFz5IZSvM)
- Cry in Sorrow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6nLfKZ3ktg)
- Goblez Clad in Dark (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSQSv521V8)
- Troian Beauty (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6DSCriinkw)
My votes are for Metroid and Final Fantasy VI.
topopoz
01-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Final Fantasy IV all the way.
wolfmaster913
01-25-2010, 02:10 AM
Dr. Mario
Final Fantasy IV
Such a shame for FFIX to lose out so soon. At least it was to another good soundtrack.
Smarty
01-25-2010, 12:39 PM
Metroid
Final Fantasy VI
arthurgolden
01-25-2010, 12:48 PM
I haven't played LO before, but with that kind of music, I will definitely have to give it a shot when I can find a copy.
Forgot to mention this earlier, but I haven't played Lost Odyssey either and really want to try it some day. I'm about a decade behind in new games, but everything I've heard about it is good.
Smarty
01-25-2010, 01:02 PM
Forgot to mention this earlier, but I haven't played Lost Odyssey either and really want to try it some day. I'm about a decade behind in new games, but everything I've heard about it is good.
I played it myself only once for about 1 hour on a friend's Xbox360. It's just magnificent. I'm actually considering getting a console I hate (i.e. Xbox360) just for this game.
arthurgolden
01-25-2010, 02:07 PM
I might be headed down that same path. Your comment actually made me think about my wife, because just like the game is bringing you to a console you don't like, the music has made my wife (who's a composer) concede that video game music can be more than bleeps and bloops. Understandably, she gets tired of it being played around here all the time. But I finally got her to admit that LO's soundtrack was good, and now I'm playing bits and pieces of Shadow of the Colossus here or there, trying to break her down. I expect a long and hard-fought battle, though (she's already resisted for five years :)).
nibbish
01-25-2010, 03:46 PM
Dr. Mario & Final Fantasy VI
Lens of Truth
01-25-2010, 05:54 PM
Metroid
Final Fantasy VI
Arthur have you tried Outcast? A veritable symphony of a soundtrack :)
arthurgolden
01-25-2010, 06:11 PM
I've heard Garudoh's Music of Video Games entry on it and remember liking it, but I don't think I sought out the rest of the soundtrack. I'll check it out. Thanks!
EDIT: Here's (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M26n2gGV7FA) a link if anyone's interested.
Eshvoide
01-25-2010, 09:00 PM
Ungh... Metroid or Dr. Mario?
I have to say Metroid & FFVI
Link006
01-26-2010, 07:12 PM
Metroid & FF 6.
Szczepan
01-26-2010, 07:40 PM
Metroid
Final Fantasy VI
arthurgolden
01-27-2010, 02:47 AM
Metroid (6-2) and Final Fantasy VI (7-2) get to move on, and that means we�re halfway through Round 2 of the Uematsu rumble. Next up�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 10
Kirby�s Adventure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA7aZ5QrZuk)
vs.
Tetris (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3wA_K49Vg)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 2, Fight 3
Final Fantasy X
- To Zanarkand (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TntdZOQRR8)
- Otherworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OONqel6f_8M)
- Auron�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iwYgd9N3Y)
- Jecht�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrUu-qvisvU)
- Seymour Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8)
- On FFX, Nobuo wrote the ones marked with NU found here (
http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/finalfantasy10_ost.htm).
vs.
Final Fantasy VII
- Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-EH6r9sSmQ)
- Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-HBnhhtSmo)
- One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU)
- Aerith�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85KIhPXrIQ)
- Cid�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2WYkfGYD8k)
My votes are for Kirby's Adventure and Final Fantasy VII.
Such a shame for FFIX to lose out so soon. At least it was to another good soundtrack.
Agreed.
topopoz
01-27-2010, 03:02 AM
=(........ IV lost...
Tetris
Final Fantasy VII
jakob
01-27-2010, 04:35 AM
Final Fantasy VII
Eshvoide
01-27-2010, 05:45 AM
Tetris & FF7
Smarty
01-27-2010, 06:26 AM
Tetris
Final Fantasy X
wolfmaster913
01-27-2010, 06:30 AM
Gah, all of my recent picks are losing for some reason. Maybe I should pick the ones that I don't want to move on. Or not...
Tetris - off to a good start already
Final Fantasy VII - though, it only squeaks past FFX by a little
nibbish
01-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Tetris & Final Fantasy VII
Lens of Truth
01-28-2010, 12:05 AM
Kirby’s Adventure
Final Fantasy VII
feralanima
01-28-2010, 12:12 AM
Tetris
Final Fantasy VII
I can't believe I didn't see this before!
ravenous19
01-28-2010, 12:39 AM
Tetris
Final Fantasy X
arthurgolden
01-29-2010, 11:10 AM
Welcome to feralanima! Tetris (7-2) and Final Fantasy VII (8-2) both walked away with easy wins, and that means it�s time for the final fight of Round 2 for the Uematsu soundtracks. Just like with the Castlevania rumble, we�ll be switching over to all Uematsu for the semifinals and finals, so the next three fights will only be Uematsu soundtracks. And now�
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 11
Mega Man (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_YMyN_69Y)
vs.
Castlevania (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI2aB86u-zQ)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Round 2, Fight 4
Final Fantasy VIII
- Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M)
- Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pJ0UsmZXM)
- The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA)
- Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXD5tJl30q0)
- The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
vs.
Blue Dragon
- The Land Shark Is Coming! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Ex-5FMpZ4)
- In Search of the Ruins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSnKwn7dwU)
- The Frozen Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVeyjgYudI)
- Mecha-Robo Corps Charge! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFtPxR60Zes)
- Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjxPj3al5U)
It�s the NES rumble that�s really conflicting me this time.But I'm gonna go with Mega Man and Final Fantasy VIII.
topopoz
01-29-2010, 11:44 AM
Castlevania
Final Fantasy VIII.
Smarty
01-29-2010, 01:42 PM
Castlevania
Final Fantasy VIII.
nibbish
01-29-2010, 03:34 PM
Mega Man & Final Fantasy VIII
jakob
01-29-2010, 04:16 PM
Mega Man and Final Fantasy VIII.
feralanima
01-29-2010, 05:40 PM
Castlevania
Final Fantasy VIII.
Thank you for the welcome too!
Link006
01-29-2010, 05:44 PM
If we were picking series, I think my vote would be different. But, just based on the first game only, I think Castlevania is clearly better.
Other vote will go to Final Fantasy.
Szczepan
01-29-2010, 07:13 PM
ehhh sorry for this... Silly mistake
Szczepan
01-29-2010, 07:15 PM
Castlevania
Final Fantasy VIII.
Rather easy decision here.
btw Missed last rumble, damn...
Eshvoide
01-29-2010, 08:03 PM
Megaman (even if it's the first game or even all the Megaman games combined... as for Castlevania, I only like stage 1, but if we are talking about multiple Castlevanias for the NES, well I like a whole lot more)
wolfmaster913
01-30-2010, 02:08 AM
Castlevania
Final Fantasy VIII
ravenous19
01-30-2010, 07:18 AM
Mega Man
Final Fantasy VIII
arthurgolden
01-31-2010, 05:58 PM
Thanks to everyone who voted! Final Fantasy VIII wiped the floor with Blue Dragon (10-0). But, on the other end of the spectrum, Castlevania battled it out with Mega Man every step of the way and just barely squeaked by (6-5). It�ll be fun to see it again down the road. But for now, we have finally reached the semifinals of the Uematsu rumble, and just like with Castlevania, we are switching to Uematsu-only voting so that its final will get the appropriate spotlight. We�ll have the first semifinal today, the second semifinal starting Tuesday, and then the final round on Thursday. After that, we�ll resume the NES soundtracks rumble and add in a vote for what the next battle will be, including an option to forgo other rumbles until we finish with the NES. So for anyone who doesn�t want to vote on the Uematsu finals, there�s plenty to talk about and do on the group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20) until the NES rumble resumes in a few days. And now�
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Semifinals, Fight 1
Final Fantasy VI (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B89C65A475B8B0CA)
for the Super Nintendo (1994)
- Fun Fact: The English translation of the game was done by one man, Ted Woolsey, in just 30 days despite the necessity of many script changes to remove cursing, violence, religious references, and sexuality. On top of that, he had to make name changes to reflect the game�s themes and story revisions to squeeze all the text into the cartridge�s limited storage space. The speed at which he completed this mammoth task resulted in some questionable choices, including Woolsey�s infamous translation of �Son of a bitch!� in the original Japanese to �Son of a submariner!� in the American version.
- Previously beat: Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV
- Recommended: Terra�s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joRZL671Esk), Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqazbULRRA), Aria de Mezzo Carattere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqXb2FDK0Q), Dancing (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ios6zLDR8AI) Mad (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRGt_PvyT8), Devil�s Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK-y8w6YhA)
What can I say that hasn�t already been said? This soundtrack is a masterpiece. The unusually high number of character themes and clever deployment of leitmotifs throughout the soundtrack are just the first admirable facets of this work. Put on �The Veldt� and you�ll hear a type of percussion that not only suggests a landscape, but an entire culture, too. The first impression is that of a primal society, of course. That holds true to the rugged nature of enemy hunting on the veldt, and the backwards use of carrier pigeons as communication in the area despite the world�s much farther advanced technology. However, the call and response between the main theme and the clarinet, and the djembe and dundun drums, creates a playful conversation that is also suggestive of the freespirited personalities of the youth in the area, including Gau, Duane, and Katarin. Maybe it�s too much of a stretch to suggest that people living in such rugged conditions would naturally need a good sense of humor and would have a connection to rhythm instruments more than the classical European instruments heard in the music of Figaro, Jidoor, or Vector�and consequently, this aspect of the music is appropriate. But maybe not. Regardless, there is a level of attention to detail throughout the soundtrack that is remarkable given the mishmash variety of occupations, backgrounds, cultures, and events in the game, and if the soundtrack suffers any from its broad scope, it at least makes a compelling attempt to resolve those tensions in the staggering finale, in which most of the game�s themes are interwoven seamlessly into one piece.
vs.
Lost Odyssey (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0FF1BAEB1AD803AC&page=1)
for the Xbox 360 (2007)
- Fun Fact: Jay Rubin, the famed translator of Haruki Murakami stories and a Harvard professor, was asked to translate the memory sequences in the game and initially turned the job down, saying he didn�t want to add to �the world�s supply of senseless violence� by helping to make a video game. However, after learning more about the game�s pacifist message and seeing concept art that shocked him with its vividness and beauty, he signed on and helped promote the game.
- Previously beat: Lord of Vermilion, Final Fantasy IX
- Recommended: Neverending Journey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOsFLjBP94), Epsylon Range (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lntoikGwo), Ruins of the East (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbbVyF5us), A Mighty Enemy Appears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tr3NmURLQ), Dark Saint (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv6_bDfnHGc)
So why do I like the Lost Odyssey soundtrack so much? Let's just start with "Neverending Journey." It's hard to find a point of comparison that's at the same level, but I'll go with "Corridors of Time" from Chrono Trigger, since I think that's another example of some of the best work we've seen from video game composers. What is special about both songs is the way the opening arpeggio transforms as soon as the other instruments come in. In both cases, the first time you hear the song turn that corner, it is totally unexpected, and once it does, the piece morphs into something much more complex and riveting. Within the space of two and half minutes, "Neverending Journey" goes from a wedding dance to a mournful flute melody to a romantic ensemble piece to a a towering, foot-stomping, head-bobbing, guitar-harmony-driven fight song. It's slick. It's beautiful. It's sad. And it's rocking. It's about all you can ask from a two-and-a-half minute song, and by its brevity, invites repeated listening. It made me a Uematsu fan all over again. And that's just one of the first songs on the soundtrack, which doesn't even touch on the leap in orchestral writing that Uematsu took with this soundtrack. Blue Dragon is nice, but lacked the themes of Lost Odyssey to give too many of the songs weight. It was tempting to feel like, say, "The Land Shark Is Coming" was a good exercise in technique for Uematsu with many nice parts (including the rattlesnake trumpet that rears up in the middle), but ultimately just a collection of parts and a mood piece. Even with all that blustering, it somehow felt underwhelming because it didn't have a payoff. Here, the tensions are controlled and resolved in such a way in songs like "Prologue," "Battlefield," "Epsylon Range," "World of Ice," "Saman, Town of Merchants," "Blizzard Field," or "Ruins of the East," as to give each piece individual depth as well as a sense of collective unity that is organic and delicately achieved. Despite how far-ranging this soundtrack is, the details in instrument selection, song structure, arrangement, and contrasting mood show Uematsu at his best, referencing his previous achievements while also building on them. It has his Zorro signature all over it while also introducing new elements to his style that will keep old and new fans happy. And that's what I think makes it one of his best works.
Now having said all that, I have no idea which soundtrack I'm going to vote for. :) I need to listen to them both one more time, and then I'll put in my choice.
*By the way, the titles of the soundtracks link to complete OST playlists on YouTube, so you can hear more if you want.
wolfmaster913
01-31-2010, 07:05 PM
I'm gonna go with Final Fantasy VI.
Eshvoide
01-31-2010, 08:43 PM
Final Fantasy VI
Smarty
01-31-2010, 09:05 PM
Final Fantasy VI. There are very few things on this rumble that are worth voting for against this. Lost Odyssey sadly isn't one of them.
nibbish
02-01-2010, 04:00 PM
Final Fantasy VI - Again, it's one of my favorite VGM soundtracks; listening to it again just confirms that.
feralanima
02-01-2010, 05:00 PM
Final Fantasy VI
arthurgolden
02-02-2010, 03:34 PM
All right. After listening to them both again, I'm going with Final Fantasy VI, too.
Szczepan
02-02-2010, 03:50 PM
Damn... I feel bad for leaving LO without a vote, but i have to go with the flow this time. Final Fantasy VI
btw It was my 666 post, so i had no other choice ;P Nice way to celebrate it:)
arthurgolden
02-02-2010, 08:35 PM
This is a blow-out. I'll get the next one up asap.
solidsnake999
02-02-2010, 08:49 PM
Final Fantasy VI
arthurgolden
02-02-2010, 10:13 PM
Hey solidsnake! Haven't seen you in a while.
arthurgolden
02-03-2010, 05:17 PM
Final Fantasy VI (8-0) all the way for the first fight. Let's get this started now, and I'll come back to fill in the descriptions when I can.
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Semifinals, Fight 2
Final Fantasy VIII (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=294020FE0E62D993)
for the PlayStation (1999)
- Fun Fact: Uematsu consciously avoided writing character themes on this soundtrack because he believed most of the characters weren't important enough to merit one. Thus, Squall and Rinoa got “Eyes on Me," and that was it.
- Previously beat: Final Fantasy I, Blue Dragon
- Recommended: Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pJ0UsmZXM), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXD5tJl30q0), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
It’s hard not to hear this soundtrack as a reaction to VII and, in fact, the designers of VIII have said that the game from top to bottom was meant to be brighter and fresher than its predecessor. There are connections between the two—Liberi Fatali as One-Winged Angel 2.0, Roses and Wine as Aerith’s Theme 2.0, the fight songs as variations of the guitar-driven techno fight songs of VII—but there is also a lighthearted, carefree attitude in many of the pieces like Balamb Garden and Breezy that are meant to reflect a school days kind of atmosphere, and succeed, I think. In terms of Uematsu’s entire catalog, it seems he might have been reaching back towards the goofiness of FFIV’s Mystic Mysidia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtdCcviYl4) with tracks like Silence and Motion and Residents and the multipart baroque Dancing Mad from FFVI with The Castle, while also looking forward with the harpsichord Edea pieces, the orchestral arrangements (his first), and, of course, Eyes on Me—a type of song that, for better or worse, continues to be a staple of Final Fantasy ending music. Therefore, VIII represents a synthesis of much of his previous work, as IX was, and equally a sign of things to come, too. Its emphasis is on reflecting a variety of moods and locations, and it does that well. And like VII, it contains several classic Uematsu pieces that work beautifully in the context of the game and sound beautiful outside of that context, too.
vs.
Final Fantasy VII (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=77D98F68F6DBB35D)
for the PlayStation (1997)
- Fun Fact: The finished product is completely different from the original design. This game was supposed to be on the Super Nintendo and set in New York in 1999 with your character on a mission to blow up the city of Midgar while being followed by a hot-blooded detective named Joe. A sorceress named Edea was also somehow involved. However, everything changed when part of the staff was re-assigned to help with the completion of Chrono Trigger. After they came back, Square believed 2D games were too limiting. They soon separated ways from Nintendo, struck a deal with Sony for a CD-based game, and assembled a staff of 120 people under a $30 million budget to begin the game we now know.
- Previously beat: Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy X
- Recommended: Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-EH6r9sSmQ), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-HBnhhtSmo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85KIhPXrIQ), Cid’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2WYkfGYD8k)
You blow up the reactor, defend yourself against the president, escape the Turks with Aeris, become a prostitute, watch as an entire area of your city is destroyed, climb out of the ruins, sneak into Shinra HQ, find everyone dead, fight your way out, finally leave Midgar, and get to the open-exploration part of the game where you’re usually rewarded with a big, boisterous main theme. And what do you get? A lethargic, almost dirge-like, sweep of strings. If you raced, you’ve only only taken two hours to get to this point. But more likely it’s been three or four, and the tone is set for the rest of the game: darkness and futility. Consider the main themes of Final Fantasy I (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lViSeukzQOQ), II (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xktPLOC6e6Y), III (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zZLvipgc2Q), IV (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqFz5IZSvM), V (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-5yMcE58EA), and VI (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joRZL671Esk) and you can see the difference. Even in the slower themes before this game, there was a steady and prominent bass keeping things moving. In contrast, the hopefulness in VII’s music (like when it takes a romantic turn around the :52 mark) is still couched in sadness. As you’re walking across the dark, often barren, industrial landscape, it’s hard to feel optimistic about your mission, visiting towns (Costa Del Sol and the Gold Saucer aside) with themes equally slow, sleepy, and/or melancholy. As topopoz said, this may be Uematsu’s most consistent soundtrack by maintaining its mood and instrumentation for the entire game. And as the game’s designers said, because of that, this game has an overriding feeling of light emerging from vast darkness.
Gonna hold off voting again until I get a chance to listen to both of them all the way through.
Smarty
02-03-2010, 06:53 PM
Final Fantasy VIII obviously. It's just a superior soundtrack. And it's cool that Uematsu thinks the characters in VIII were unimportant, because, well, they were. I mean Rinoa? wtf?
Eshvoide
02-03-2010, 07:49 PM
Final Fantasy VII, most of Final Fantasy VIII's music to me was kinda slow...
topopoz
02-03-2010, 07:54 PM
I'm Going for Final Fantasy VII, though as independent music VIII is superior(In a manner of speaking), as soundtrack VII did a much better job as fitting & representing the every track with every situation & image in the game.
nibbish
02-03-2010, 07:56 PM
Much as I think that Final Fantasy VII's music was kind of overrated, I thought VIII's music was rather dull. I begrudgingly vote for VII.
wolfmaster913
02-03-2010, 09:14 PM
Final Fantasy VII
feralanima
02-04-2010, 03:15 AM
I'm Going for Final Fantasy VII, though as independent music VIII is superior(In a manner of speaking), as soundtrack VII did a much better job as fitting & representing the every track with every situation & image in the game.
arthurgolden
02-04-2010, 10:56 PM
Descriptions are up. And I think I'm going to vote for Final Fantasy VIII, although it's close for me.
jakob
02-05-2010, 01:40 AM
Wow, what a brutal semifinal! These are two of my favorite game soundtracks, and I've always thought that VIII was a great game although many of my friends disliked it. The tone of the two games is very different as previously discussed, and both games' tones are very well-reflected in their respective soundtracks. I adore Blue Fields, Silence and Motion, Timber Owls, Balamb Garden, even Shuffle and Boogie, but can they oust the epic Opening, A Secret Sleeping in the Deep, Fortress of the Condor, and Bombing Mission? (I like some weird ones, I know)
I have to vote for Final Fantasy VIII.
ravenous19
02-05-2010, 05:56 AM
Final Fantasy VIII
Szczepan
02-05-2010, 02:07 PM
Hmmmmm........ If i were to vote just according to the recommended tracks, I would go with FFVIII easily , but after refreshing my memory of those soundtracks as a whole, Final Fantasy VII comes slightly on top. Or maybe it's just a mood I'm in now.
Link006
02-05-2010, 04:55 PM
Final Fantasy VIII
arthurgolden
02-05-2010, 07:14 PM
And now for the final! The last fight was extremely close, but VII had too many votes in the beginning for VIII to overcome. That means all that's left are the two pillars of the debate over the best Final Fantasy game. I guess this shows how important music is in elevating a game into that conversation. So let's see who wins. It's sprites vs. polygons. Kefka vs. Sephiroth. "Son of a submariner" vs. "Where's its %$@#ing head?" In a word, this (
http://www.flickr.com/photos/darcenciel/3737672924/).
The Nobuo Uematsu Rumble
Final Round
Final Fantasy VI (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B89C65A475B8B0CA)
for the Super Nintendo (1994)
vs.
Final Fantasy VII (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=77D98F68F6DBB35D)
for the PlayStation (1997)
My vote is for Final Fantasy VI.
Smarty
02-05-2010, 07:16 PM
Final Fantasy VI deserves to win this way more than VII does.
nibbish
02-05-2010, 07:53 PM
FFVI (that's 6) in a walk. This is the matchup that I figured was coming, but it's not even close.
Szczepan
02-05-2010, 07:57 PM
Final Fantasy VI. Aye, after the 1st semifinal, I already knew which FF will get my vote in the last battle.
topopoz
02-05-2010, 08:43 PM
I assume that VI is going to win, but I vote for VII...=D
Eshvoide
02-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Ungh, toughie... it would have to be Final Fantasy VI... I have more favorites in VI than VII
arthurgolden
02-06-2010, 05:31 PM
Quick side note: I finally updated the Mega Man rumble on the group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20) with everyone's suggestions. So check that out whenever you get a chance. My next project is a Metal Gear rumble, but I don't know when that'll be done. Hopefully soon.
wolfmaster913
02-06-2010, 06:35 PM
Final Fantasy VII
feralanima
02-06-2010, 10:38 PM
Final Fantasy VII
ravenous19
02-07-2010, 01:20 AM
Final Fantasy VI
Link006
02-08-2010, 08:03 PM
Final Fantasy VI.
Lens of Truth
02-08-2010, 10:27 PM
Final Fantasy VI
arthurgolden
02-09-2010, 01:53 AM
And the winner of the Nobuo Uematsu battle is�
Final Fantasy VI (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=B89C65A475B8B0CA)!
(1994)
What can I say that hasn�t already been said? This soundtrack is a masterpiece. The unusually high number of character themes and clever deployment of leitmotifs throughout the soundtrack are just the first admirable facets of this work. There is a level of attention to detail throughout the soundtrack that is remarkable given the mishmash variety of occupations, backgrounds, cultures, and events in the game, and if the soundtrack suffers any from its broad scope, it at least makes a compelling attempt to resolve those tensions in the staggering finale, in which most of the game�s themes are interwoven seamlessly into one piece.
Fun Fact: The English translation of the game was done by one man, Ted Woolsey, in just 30 days despite the necessity of many script changes to remove cursing, violence, religious references, and sexuality. On top of that, he had to make name changes to reflect the game�s themes and story revisions to squeeze all the text into the cartridge�s limited storage space. The speed at which he completed this mammoth task resulted in some questionable choices, including Woolsey�s infamous translation of �Son of a bitch!� in the original Japanese to �Son of a submariner!� in the American version.
Record: 6-1, 7-2, 8-0, 8-3
Well, that was another great battle. Thanks to all of you who voted! I hope you enjoyed it.
We�ll continue with NES soundtracks and vote on the next battle very soon.
Just a reminder: if you have an idea for a theme that you�d like to do, shoot me a PM. I�m open to anything. Also, you can see and make suggestions on the themes I�ve already worked on at our VGM Rumble Group, found here (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20).
arthurgolden
02-09-2010, 06:10 PM
Okay. We're continuing the NES soundtracks rumble below. But you also need to put in a second vote for one or more of the rumble ideas. Besides the one you�d most enjoy doing, also mention any other rumbles that you�d be interested in. One thing to consider: Szczepan put forth an idea in this post (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1389648&postcount=722) that I wouldn�t be opposed to�that is, to finish the NES Soundtracks rumble by itself (which would take about 3 weeks) and then start two new rumbles simultaneously. However, either way is fine with me: sticking with the NES or adding a new rumble now. As always, majority rules.
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 12
Blaster Master (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Ebsa_Pc9U)
vs.
Chip n� Dale�s Rescue Rangers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOSDVFF3ZjU)
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Deciding the Next Rumble Rumble
More details about each can be found here (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20). Choose one or more�
1) The Best of the SNES � 64 soundtracks
2) The Best of the Genesis � 64 soundtracks
3) The Best of Mega Man � 32 songs
4) The Best of Suikoden � 32 songs
5) None (we'd focus on the NES rumble and do 2 fights at a time instead of 1)
I�m happy with whatever we do, so I�m only going to vote for an NES soundtrack: Blaster Master.
topopoz
02-09-2010, 06:22 PM
I go with Szczepan's Proposition
&
Blaster Master
Did that just sound as a proposition Rumble? XD
feralanima
02-09-2010, 07:07 PM
Blaster Master
&
Szczepan's Proposition
nibbish
02-09-2010, 07:47 PM
Blaster Master
Szczepan's Proposition
jakob
02-09-2010, 08:30 PM
BLASTER MASTER
topopoz
02-09-2010, 08:40 PM
BLASTER MASTER
O.O!!!!!!! that almost comes out of the monitor to hit me. lol!
Smarty
02-09-2010, 09:58 PM
Blaster Master
Also I think we should do some Genesis sountracks, because it didn't get as much attention as the SNES so the soundtracks would be a great thing to get to know for us all.
The Super Nintendo is pretty old itself but a lot of the soundtracks stood out and we know about them even today. Can't say the same about the Genesis though.
jakob
02-09-2010, 10:55 PM
I know very few SNES soundtracks as I had a Genesis growing up, so those are the ones that I remember the best (after NES of course). I'm interested to see both of those rumbles.
Lens of Truth
02-10-2010, 01:32 AM
Blaster Master
Jakob, have you seen THIS (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSbslfm3aoE)? :D
Eshvoide
02-10-2010, 03:52 AM
Chip N' Dale Rescue Rangers It doesn't look like it's going to win, but this is my favorite song out of the whole track: (if youtube ever loads)
Link006
02-10-2010, 05:53 AM
Blaster Master and Option 5.
jakob
02-10-2010, 06:13 AM
Jakob, have you seen THIS (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSbslfm3aoE)? :D
Wow!! That looks like it is pretty faithful to the original, but a totally new game at the same time...I just might dust off my Wii and buy this one. I'm not sure how I feel about the club remix of the stage 1 theme heard in that video, but if it keeps a good bit of the original music (whether remixed or not) , it wins my vote!! Thanks for that, I hadn't heard of that at all!
Szczepan
02-10-2010, 02:55 PM
Blaster Master
Lens of Truth
02-11-2010, 02:52 AM
Wow!! That looks like it is pretty faithful to the original, but a totally new game at the same time...I just might dust off my Wii and buy this one. I'm not sure how I feel about the club remix of the stage 1 theme heard in that video, but if it keeps a good bit of the original music (whether remixed or not) , it wins my vote!! Thanks for that, I hadn't heard of that at all!
Looks like it's taking a leaf from the book of Contra and Castlevania Rebirth, with that new twist on the familiar, SNES+ style (the former is brilliant btw, the latter less so). I'll be downloading for sure. Love the original!
I know what you mean about the music though - at least it still sounds 80s :)
arthurgolden
02-11-2010, 03:57 AM
Yeah. I started missing the original track pretty quickly, although the hand claps are funny.
Interesting that they scaled the sidescrolling sections bigger and the overhead sections smaller. I always did think the character in the overhead sections was sized way too large (

).
wolfmaster913
02-11-2010, 05:26 AM
Blaster Master
Did I miss something? A couple of people are saying "Szczepan's Proposition" and I don't see one...As for me, I would like to see either SNES or Genesis next.
arthurgolden
02-11-2010, 07:10 AM
Szczepan put forth an idea in this post (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1389648&postcount=722) to finish the NES Soundtracks rumble [before starting anything else]
So Szczepan's Proposition is just Option 5. Same thing.
wolfmaster913
02-11-2010, 03:16 PM
All the way back in last year, that would be why I didn't remember seeing this proposition. It definitely sounds like a good plan, though.
arthurgolden
02-11-2010, 10:01 PM
Okey doke. First, we�ve got Blaster Master destroying Chip n� Dale (10-1). Second, we�ve got Szczepan�s Proposition winning. So we�ll finish the NES Soundtracks rumble, and then more than likely start the Genesis or SNES rumble next, plus maybe something else. I think this is a good plan. I just checked, and we started the NES rumble on 10-5-09. That was four months ago! 0_0. I can't believe it's been that long. Makes sense why my Battle of Olympus link no longer worked. I found a replacement, though, so let's get started...
The NES Soundtracks Rumble
Round 2, Fight 13
Battle of Olympus (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFXbvs6a1M&feature=PlayList&p=0646CE209F2614D1)
vs.
Mother (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODQhOl_orc)
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Round 2, Fight 14
Mega Man 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MiDyPEw_k)
vs.
Journey to Silius (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBM-m82Za_0)
My votes are for Mother and Mega Man 2. Sad to see Journey to Silius go, though. It�s one of my favorites.
topopoz
02-11-2010, 10:52 PM
Battle of Olympus
Mega Man 2
solidsnake999
02-12-2010, 12:48 AM
Megaman 2
jakob
02-12-2010, 01:39 AM
MEGAMAN 2
I promise this is the last vote I do in this fashion for this rumble, until blaster master comes up again of course... I also enjoy Journey to Silius, but I never played it back in the day.
topopoz
02-12-2010, 02:44 AM
I promise this is the last vote I do in this fashion for this rumble, until blaster master comes up again of course
Mmm... I doubt it =D
arthurgolden
02-12-2010, 05:10 AM
Joking of course. :) :) :) I'm right there with you on MEGA MAN 2.
wolfmaster913
02-12-2010, 07:27 AM
Mother
Journey to Silius
Szczepan
02-12-2010, 12:26 PM
Battle of Olympus
Mega Man 2
Eshvoide
02-12-2010, 01:00 PM
Battle of Olympus & Megaman 2
Smarty
02-12-2010, 01:31 PM
Battle of Olympus & Megaman 2
Link006
02-12-2010, 03:28 PM
Mother for sure. Other one is really tough. I can find other NES Mega Mans that sound better pretty easily but Journey to Silius just doesn't have as much variety, even though I love it.
So I guess... Mother and Mega Man 2.
Tragic.
nibbish
02-12-2010, 04:01 PM
Battle of Olympus & Megaman 2
ravenous19
02-13-2010, 03:05 AM
Mother
Mega Man 2
arthurgolden
02-13-2010, 10:19 PM
Our newest winners are Battle of Olympus (5-4) and Mega Man 2 (10-1). And now for the final fights of Round 2�
Round 2, Fight 15
Super Mario Bros. 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WsaclyckD8)
vs.
Castlevania III (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1l4ourOqtY)
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Round 2, Fight 16
Mike Tyson�s Punch Out! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPWKlpbGtHE)
vs.
Silver Surfer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHdnG_c598U)
These fights make me want to pull my hair out. I like them all. I guess my votes are for and Super Mario Bros. 2 and Silver Surfer.
Smarty
02-13-2010, 11:29 PM
Casltevania III
Myke Tyson's Punch Out!
feralanima
02-14-2010, 05:10 AM
Super Mario Bros. 2
Silver Surfer
solidsnake999
02-14-2010, 06:41 AM
Casltevania III
Myke Tyson's Punch Out!
Szczepan
02-14-2010, 01:00 PM
Castlevania III
Silver Surfer
topopoz
02-14-2010, 05:38 PM
Castlevania III
Silver Surfer
Eshvoide
02-14-2010, 07:52 PM
Castlevania III & Mike Tyson's Punch Out
ravenous19
02-15-2010, 03:26 AM
Castlevania III
Silver Surfer
wolfmaster913
02-15-2010, 09:01 AM
Super Mario Bros. 2
Mike Tyson's Punch Out!
nibbish
02-15-2010, 04:26 PM
Aww... SMB2 is my favorite of the series. Doesn't look like it's going to keep on, though.
Also, Mike Tyson's Punch Out!
arthurgolden
02-15-2010, 04:29 PM
Wow. These are both close. About 6 hours left, and Mike Tyson's Punch Out and Silver Surfer are tied. Keep the votes coming!
jakob
02-15-2010, 04:43 PM
Super Mario Bros. 2 and Silver Surfer.
I almost voted for Punch out, but then remembered that the music for that game gets annoying after a while.
Link006
02-15-2010, 05:09 PM
Castlevania III, Mike Tyson's Punch Out.
Smarty
02-15-2010, 06:07 PM
Oh come on! Tied AGAIN?!
nibbish
02-15-2010, 10:06 PM
I almost voted for Punch out, but then remembered that the music for that game gets annoying after a while.
Whereas no one played Silver Surfer long enough to get annoyed by the music.
arthurgolden
02-15-2010, 10:08 PM
Well, to echo Smarty, we've got a tie again. It's 6-6 between Mike Tyson's Punch Out and Silver Surfer. So we're going to sudden death, where the next vote will determine the winner, and then voting for this round will be over. If we can't find another vote (which has only happened once before), we'll have to go to a coin toss. But we'll cross that bridge only if necessary.
EDIT:
Whereas no one played Silver Surfer long enough to get annoyed by the music.
Hahaha. :)
jakob
02-15-2010, 11:33 PM
Whereas no one played Silver Surfer long enough to get annoyed by the music.
I've never played it at all, so there's the rub.
arthurgolden
02-16-2010, 04:22 AM
I beat it (with cheats), and I can say it is not worth the effort and time.
solidsnake999
02-16-2010, 04:54 AM
I beat it (with cheats), and I can say it is not worth the effort and time.
Jajaja, it�s the only way to beat that shit.
Jessie
02-16-2010, 05:13 AM
Castlevania III
Silver Surfer
arthurgolden
02-16-2010, 06:26 AM
Thanks to Jessie for the tie-breaker! With that, Castlevania III (8-5) and Silver Surfer (7-6) are our winners after two awesome fights. And now we move on to Round 3�
Round 3, Fight 1
Mega Man 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCL2lMUP_U4)
vs.
Life Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mv4YfP4uqM)
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Round 3, Fight 2
Tetris (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3wA_K49Vg)
vs.
Batman: Return of the Joker (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfrNNIdZP0)
My votes are for Mega Man 3 and Batman: Return of the Joker.
jakob
02-16-2010, 06:29 AM
Mega Man 3 and Batman: Return of the Joker.
ravenous19
02-16-2010, 12:40 PM
Mega Man 3
Tetris
topopoz
02-16-2010, 02:14 PM
Life Force
Batman: Return Of the Joker
nibbish
02-16-2010, 03:16 PM
Mega Man 3 - Tetris
Szczepan
02-16-2010, 04:51 PM
Life Force
Batman: Return Of the Joker
Smarty
02-16-2010, 04:53 PM
Life Force
Tetris
arthurgolden
02-16-2010, 08:24 PM
I've got a question. As much as I've listened to the soundtrack, I've never played Batman: Return of the Joker (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UbsVOzZ-w). From the TAS, the graphics look really good. Does anyone know if the game is worth playing?
feralanima
02-16-2010, 08:35 PM
Mega Man 3
Batman: Return of the Joker
I absolutely hate Tetris. The only thing worse than Tetris to me is Pacman!
Eshvoide
02-17-2010, 12:30 AM
Mega Man 3 (ungh over life force >.<)
wolfmaster913
02-17-2010, 01:28 AM
Life Force
Tetris
Jessie
02-17-2010, 03:36 AM
Mega Man 3 and Batman: Return of the Joker.
Link006
02-17-2010, 05:42 AM
Mega Man 3 & Batman.
Batman: Return of the Joker is reportedly not as good as the original, mainly because it is so much more difficult than the first game (which wasn't exactly cupcake city).
arthurgolden
02-17-2010, 07:03 AM
You're telling me. I don't think I ever beat Batman. In fact, I'm positive I never did.
arthurgolden
02-18-2010, 05:16 AM
So Mega Man 3 (8-4) and Batman: Return of the Joker (7-4) are the first to advance to Round 4. Next up�
Round 3, Fight 3
Gradius (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYpntuUYNVc)
vs.
Final Fantasy II (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeY26bH2Sn0)
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Round 3, Fight 4
Battle of Olympus (
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=95474972E2FF8767&search_query=battle+of+olympus+ost)
vs.
Mega Man 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MiDyPEw_k)
My votes are for Final Fantasy II and Mega Man 2.
jakob
02-18-2010, 06:47 AM
Gradius
Mega Man 2
I employed some restraint this time :(
ravenous19
02-18-2010, 12:35 PM
Final Fantasy II and Mega Man 2
Lens of Truth
02-18-2010, 01:23 PM
My votes are for Final Fantasy II and Mega Man 2.
Smarty
02-18-2010, 02:37 PM
Final Fantasy II
Mega Man 2
Link006
02-18-2010, 03:24 PM
FF II, Mega Man 2.
solidsnake999
02-18-2010, 05:48 PM
Final Fantasy II
Mega Man 2
nibbish
02-18-2010, 06:10 PM
Final Fantasy II
Mega Man 2
topopoz
02-18-2010, 07:31 PM
Final Fantasy II
Battle of Olympus
feralanima
02-18-2010, 10:12 PM
Final Fantasy II and Mega Man 2.
Eshvoide
02-18-2010, 10:44 PM
Gradius & Megaman 2
arthurgolden
02-19-2010, 11:07 AM
Quick side note: The Metal Gear rumble is now up on the group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20). Now that we have a few 32-song and 64-soundtrack rumbles, I think I'll add another theme rumble (like battle themes) and some composer rumbles. Maybe Motoi Sakuraba, Yasunori Mitsuda, and/or Hitoshi Sakimoto. If you have some ideas for that, shoot me a PM. Eventually, I want to do a big rumble pitting composers against one another, but that's a little ways into the future--as is all of this. I think with 5 ideas on the group page, I'll take a break.
Szczepan
02-19-2010, 07:31 PM
Gradius & Megaman 2
Battle royale of Composers sounds great:)
topopoz
02-19-2010, 07:54 PM
Quick side note: The Metal Gear rumble is now up on the group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20). Now that we have a few 32-song and 64-soundtrack rumbles, I think I'll add another theme rumble (like battle themes) and some composer rumbles. Maybe Motoi Sakuraba, Yasunori Mitsuda, and/or Hitoshi Sakimoto. If you have some ideas for that, shoot me a PM. Eventually, I want to do a big rumble pitting composers against one another, but that's a little ways into the future--as is all of this. I think with 5 ideas on the group page, I'll take a break.
I kinda don't like the Composer Battle Royale, but if you wanna do it there's no prob.
BTW I just came with an Idea, how about in the future(after all the rumbles that are already prepared), a Best of Megami Tensei Rumble, it's a vast discography & I practically have no Idea of the music in that series except for a little of Nocturne and I think a rumble would be a good way to know it.
What do you think?
arthurgolden
02-19-2010, 08:57 PM
I'm up for that. Previously, I've heard Shin Megami Tensei 1, 2, 3 and Persona 3 and 4--plus, snippets of the original Megami Tensei. I'd be interested in listening to the rest and creating a rumble. :)
topopoz
02-19-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm up for that. Previously, I've heard Shin Megami Tensei 1, 2, 3 and Persona 3 and 4--plus, snippets of the original Megami Tensei. I'd be interested in listening to the rest and creating a rumble. :)
Great!...
After NES Rumble... What's Next?
arthurgolden
02-19-2010, 09:14 PM
Don't know. We'll vote on that after the NES Soundtracks rumble is done. Could be any of the things on the group page or any combination of them, too.
arthurgolden
02-20-2010, 01:05 AM
Wow. Final Fantasy II (9-3) and Mega Man 2 (11-1) dominated that round. With so many big names coming up, though, I bet these results will be a lot closer. Next up is�
Round 3, Fight 5
Contra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFwGgFOEZb4)
vs.
Super Mario Bros. 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TNWfSpEL7w)
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Round 3, Fight 6
Blaster Master (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Ebsa_Pc9U)
vs.
Silver Surfer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHdnG_c598U)
My votes are for Contra and Silver Surfer.
jakob
02-20-2010, 01:11 AM
BLASTER MASTER
Super Mario Brothers 3
Seriously, I freaking love Blaster Master.
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