Maniac Mansion, Dave's Theme is always suck in my mind... (Goonies II, don't get me wrong, but I still like Cyndi Lauper's "Good Enough", and I don't remember it being a huge soundtrack, going into the rooms was pretty freaky when I was a wee child)

As for Castlevania... uh, none of those songs I like...

Maniac Mansion, Dave's Theme is always suck in my mind...

Yeah. The Main Theme, Bernard's Theme, and Michael's Theme are really catchy, too.

I just realized you wrote "suck" instead of "stuck." That really changes the meaning.

lol, wayne's world. Remember the "suck cut" ? Maybe it's sucking his/her will to live...

Haha. I had forgotten about that. if you haven't seen it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY0U0GTRPuo) :)

Yeah, it was suppose to be 'stuck'

Super Castlevania IV — Clockwork Mansion

Maniac Mansion

Sorry to disappear off the face of the earth. Usually, when I leave town, I mention that I might not have internet access and then end up finding a computer. This time, I thought for sure I'd have a computer available and didn't. Oh well. No big shifts in the voting over the Thanksgiving holidays. Clockwork Mansion (7-2) and Maniac Mansion (5-4) ended up winning these fights. Next up...


The Castlevania Songs Rumble

Quarterfinals, Fight 2

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness � Abandoned Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKUJZp4Kuc)

vs.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night � Marble Gallery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiII9PGYFrc)


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The NES Soundtracks Rumble

Round 1, Fight 26

Tetris (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3wA_K49Vg)

vs.

Ninja Gaiden III ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI2MOnuFOxc)


My votes are for Marble Gallery and Tetris. And now sleep...

Tetris.

Abandoned Castle

Tetris

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night — Marble Gallery

Tetris

Abandoned Castle, Tetris

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness — Abandoned Castle

Tetris

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness � Abandoned Castle

Tetris

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night — Marble Gallery

Tetris

Wow: two straight losses for SotN: stunning really. I go for Curse of Darkness here.

I am absolutely stunned at the NES battle. The Tetris soundtrack is rather rudimentary when stacked up against any Ninja Gaiden soundtrack, and Ninja Gaiden III is the best of the series in my book. Being able to choose your music is certainly a nice feature, but for me it is quality that counts, and Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom has one of the best soundtracks in the rumble. It definitely gets my vote and will be leaving this rumble too soon.

Tetris. Hands down.

So Abandoned Castle comes out with a big win over Marble Gallery (6-3), knocking down SOTN to one last track, and Tetris blows out Ninja Gaiden III (9-1). Interesting turn of events. Next up we've got...


The Castlevania Songs Rumble

Quarterfinals, Fight 3

Castlevania III: Dracula�s Curse � Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGq9VjJXVh8)

vs.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night � Dance of the Pales (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3zIJ5wgaA8)


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The NES Soundtracks Rumble

Round 1, Fight 27

Jackal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skk9h-UHN6E)

vs.

Castlevania II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwiKP7etEnc)


My votes are for Dance of the Pales/Waltz of the Pearls (I never did find a definitive take on what the translation should be; in fact, I ran across several more translations :)) and Castlevania II. For the NES rumble, I thought I'd be tired of Castlevania by this point. But when it comes to this soundtrack, I'm not even close. Jackal rocks, but Castlevania goes for more and succeeds at creating an interesting mood and a hummable melody with just about every song.

Beginning (one of the 3 clasic themes)

Castlevania II

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night — Dance of the Pales easily. My favourite Castlevania theme ( one of my fav vgm themes too...)

Castlevania II No problem with decision here too

Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse — Beginning

Castlevania II

Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse — Beginning

Jackal -Castlevania I and III are waay better. The theme from Stage 1 of Jackal gets stuck in my head ALL the time.

Castlevania III & Castlevania II.

Castlevania II was the first Castlevania I beat, tbh. I had problem with the time limit in Castlevania I, and I kept dying a lot in Castlevania III. Favorite songs from Castlevania II: Bloody Tears and the Mansion song. The only thing I didn't like about Castlevania II was how easy the final boss was. ;_;

Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse — Beginning
I changed my mind on this one about five times and I'm still not sure that I made the right choice :P

Castlevania II

Castlevania III and Castlevania II.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night � Dance of the Pales

Jackal

Beginning won big against Dance of the Pales (6-3), as did Castlevania II against Jackal (7-2). Can�t say I saw that one coming. We�ve got an interesting final four coming together. And on that note, here�s the last fight to determine the songs in the Castlevania semifinals�


The Castlevania Songs Rumble

Quarterfinals, Fight 4

Castlevania � Vampire Killer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfgpodCVHE)

vs.

Castlevania: Circle of the Moon � Repose of Souls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv6QercbUSk)


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The NES Soundtracks Rumble

Round 1, Fight 28

Silver Surfer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHdnG_c598U)

vs.

Alien 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siS06t4hjYk)


No contest for me between the NES songs, and I say that as the one who nominated Alien 3. I'm voting for Silver Surfer. Castlevania is where it gets interesting. Both songs are great, but having listened to them several times, I've gotta give it to Vampire Killer. It's still compelling to listen to after all these years. Great melody, great bass line. And I can't vote against one of the classic songs of the series.

Vampire Killer -- The other one did nothing for me.

Silver Surfer -- I hadn't heard or played either of these before, and Alien 3 sounds cool for the first few tracks until you realize they are all the same. Silver Surfer doesn't have a whole lot of music, but it wins me with one track (which I have as "track 6"...sorry I don't know the name)


By the way, I'm curious, how many soundtracks are left in the NES rumble?

For the NES rumble, we've got 8 soundtracks left, so there are 4 battles remaining in Round 1. Closing in on the end of that round and the end of the Castlevania rumble!

I forget to mention this a lot, but I update the OP (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1250781&postcount=1) after every fight, too, so you can see how everything is playing out in color-code. It's interesting to look back and see what's been eliminated from time to time. A lot of surprises in both rumbles.

Castlevania — Vampire Killer

Silver Surfer

Castlevania - Vampire Killer

Castlevania - Vampire Killer

What a pity. No love for Dance of the Pales...

btw

Castlevania: Circle of the Moon — Repose of Souls - great song like this can't be eliminated by blowout, but I admit that losing to VK is no shame.

and

Silver Surfer

Vampire Killer (what can I say... it's classic)

Castlevania — Vampire Killer

Silver Surfer

Definitely can't say I'm surprised; Vampire Killer is a great song (and I think the version in Circle of the Moon is better than the original), but I give the nod to Repose of Souls. I'll go Silver Surfer for NES.

Castlevania � Vampire Killer

Silver Surfer

Wow. Two big wins for Vampire Killer (8-2) and Silver Surfer (7-0). Thanks to everyone for voting. And now, we have finally reached the semifinals! If you remember, before we started the two-rumble format, we decided it would be best to switch to Castlevania-only voting when things were winding down, so that its final would get the appropriate spotlight. We’re going to start that now. We’ll have both semifinals for Castlevania today, and then the final round starting Monday. After that, we’ll resume the NES soundtracks rumble and add in a vote for what the next rumble will be: Best of Nobuo Uematsu, Mega Man, Genesis, or SNES. So for anyone who doesn’t want to vote on the Castlevania finals, there’s plenty to talk about and do on the group page ( http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20) until the NES rumble resumes in a few days. And now…


The Castlevania Songs Rumble

Semifinals, Fight 1

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness — Abandoned Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKUJZp4Kuc)
by Michiru Yamane (2005) for the Xbox and PlayStation 2
Fun Fact: This game is a sequel to Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse.
Previously beat: Garibaldi Courtyard, Requiem for the Gods, Marble Gallery

This may be the most rocking of our final four. It opens with a fanfare, and then a drum fill takes us into a quick, thrusting violin line over a hi-hat driven beat. That’s the backbone of the song, which it then builds off of, adding a deep-pitched guitar line, violins ala Bernard Hermann’s shower scene music in Psycho, and a theremin-esque synth line—all of which build tension until the bottom drops out at the 1:00 mark. The second half of the melody rises up, and then we shift into section two’s amalgamation of an organ dirge and heavy metal percussion. And that’s just the first two mintues! Before it’s over, we get a section in the style of Mega Man, a synth solo, and a smooth segue back into the opening themes at the loop. Michiru Yamane’s talents extend well beyond these styles, but this piece is commendable for and represents, in a small way, her genre-blending and strong melody writing.

vs.

Super Castlevania IV — Clockwork Mansion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRMjAg2jN0)
by Souji Taro and Masanori Adachi (1991) for the SNES
Fun Fact: This soundtrack remixed several classic Castlevania pieces—including Vampire Killer, Bloody Tears, and Beginning from our rumble—and had its own victory fanfare and Theme of Simon Belmont (also from our rumble) remixed in several later games in the series.
Previously beat: Demon Seed, Jaws of a Scorched Earth, Abandoned Pit

Perhaps it’s appropriate that these two are facing off against one another, since they’re both multi-part pieces with ambitious mishmashes of styles. Here, we start off with an organ line (just a few of those in Castlevania), which changes mood as soon as the drums come in at :08. Alone, the organ seems mournful; with the drums, it transforms into something more driving and action-oriented. But then, like Abandoned Castle, the bottom drops out at :15, bringing us into a lull in the song. This is effective at doing a few things—keeping the song engaging and creating tension because, while the individual parts are conventional relative to their musical styles, they’re interacting with other parts of the music in unusual ways. The lull takes us into an organ fanfare, and then we get a synth melody over bongos and snare drums with a vaguely middle-eastern choice of notes, reminiscent of an oboe playing a snake-charming song. Then we finish with a trumpet, trailing off spookily as the main melody returns. This would be a cool piece to listen to while walking in a haunted house.


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The Castlevania Songs Rumble

Semifinals, Fight 2

Castlevania — Vampire Killer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfgpodCVHE)
by Kinuyo Yamashita (1986) for the NES
Fun Fact: The game’s storyline and setting have been re-used in the series four times: in Vampire Killer on the MSX, Super Castlevania IV on the SNES, Castlevania Chronicles on the X68000 and PlayStation, and Haunted Castle in arcades.
Previously beat: Heart of Fire, Wood Carving Partita, Repose of Souls

Right out the gate, that stuttering bass line and bold melody make a statement about the quality of the first Castlevania game. But the concision and ease with which the song’s pieces fit together make it a little harder to appreciate its intricacy, too, because the song invites you to sit back and let it do its work as background music. In a lot of cases, songs from the NES era hang around because of nostalgia, and that’s certainly a force at play here. But I think the swagger in the melody writing, and the little call and response that happens with the faux-pizzicato sounds in the second part and the “strings” in the fourth section, and the fact that nothing repeats more than once in the whole loop—all make this piece still compelling to listen to. You get a lot for 30 seconds of music, which is yet another example of the composing talent working in video games back in the day.

vs.

Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse — Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGq9VjJXVh8)
by Yoshinori Sasaki, Jun Funahashi, Yukie Morimoto (1989) for the NES
Fun Fact: The Japanese version of the game had a specialized “VRC6” music microprocessor chip that added two extra pulse-wave channels and a saw-wave channel to help more closely replicate the sound of a synthesized string section. This chip was removed for the North American and European versions of the games.
Previously beat: The Silence of the Daylight, Within These Castle Walls, Dance of the Pales

To start on the same note that Vampire Killer ended on, this piece is also an intricate work, but that fact may be overwhelmed by the broad strokes and catchiness of the melody. Underneath that is a rocking, dynamic, start/stop bass line and some considerably more subtle percussion than what’s in, say, Abandoned Castle—but equally effective. One thing that’s particularly nice about this song is the way the third section, starting at :32, halves the tempo for a brief moment before we go back into the trills and embellishments and full-on momentum of the rest of the piece. So much happens in :50. It’d be a daunting task to give any composer that small an amount of time to establish a mood, but here we get a melody that is both delicate and harsh, a bass line that is both rocking and graceful, percussion that is precise but heavy—all contributing to a piece that overall is one of the series' best mixtures of baroque and rock.


Unfortunately, we have to choose. So my votes are for Abandoned Castle and Vampire Killer.

Super Castlevania IV - Clockwork Mansion

Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse - Beginning

Sorry for Vampire Killer, But Beginning has a great energetic and inspiring mood =D.

By the way, Loved the description of the songs. Congratulations arthur. =D

Beginning

This was hard. Obviously, vampire killer must be at least a portion of the reason behind the success of the first castlevania game. The dynamic changes in the melody of Vampire Killer that you almost never hear in NES music almost did it for me, but Beginning just seemed a little bit better, but why? The half-time feel at :32 is great in beginning. The beginning of both songs are VERY similar, and both songs are in the same key, so Beginning almost feels like an embellishment of Vampire Killer.

In the end, Beginning just has a better melody in my opinion, and for me that's it.

p.s. I checked out the JP version of beginning, and wow that sounds quite different! I really like the differences in some parts, but not so much in others. I think the half-time-feel sections sound really cool in this JP version.

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness � Abandoned Castle
I previously didn't care much for Clockwork Mansion, but a few more listens tonight gave me appreciation for it. However, Abandoned Castle still gets my vote easily here.

Castlevania III: Dracula�s Curse � Beginning
I wanted to give it to Vampire Killer, but Beginning is just infectious.

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness — Abandoned Castle
When I heared it for the first time I wasn't a big fan of it, but it grew on me time. It grew up quite big i must say.

Castlevania - Vampire Killer
Really tough choice here. They are both wonderful classics of equally high worth. I choose VK simply because of sentiment- I remember this theme from old times and was humming it countless times since then:) (I've played Castlevania III but only on emu, few years ago unfortunately ) btw Beginning eliminated my beloved Dance of the Pales, so I demand blood!! Mwahahaha!!!!! ;););)

Abandon Castle... and uh... Beginning

I would have to say Beginning only for the fact that it's a nice light tone of the things to come later in the game. Vampire Killer sounds like you are just a stage away from fighting Dracula himself.

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness — Abandoned Castle

Castlevania — Vampire Killer

I'll let this run a little longer than normal since it's the end of the fall semester and everybody's dealing with final deadlines for school.

In the meantime, here's one tidbit I found, which is too bizarre/scary/interesting not to share. This is from the website for Kinuyo Yamashita, who composed the soundtrack for Castlevania (which was her first musical work!):


On August 15th, 1998 Yamashita collapsed while playing tennis. She was taken to the hospital in an ambulance and diagnosed with a Subarachnoid hemorrhage. She stayed in the hospital for a week comatose, only to suffer from a second subarachnoid hemorrhage. Her chance of living severely decreased, however the second operation was a miraculous success. She spent another week in a coma and awoke with no memory and slight paralysis on the right side of her body. Gradually her memory and paralysis recovered and she was released from the hospital. She was able to continue her career in music afterwards.

weird.


(vote for beginning, vote for beginning, vote for beginning)

Time for the finals! It's the old guard versus the new: third-gen consoles versus sixth-gen, plus the early composers versus Yamane. Both are deserving, but who will win?


The Castlevania Songs Rumble

Final Round

Castlevania III: Dracula�s Curse � Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGq9VjJXVh8)
by Yoshinori Sasaki, Jun Funahashi, Yukie Morimoto (1989) for the NES

vs.

Castlevania: Curse of Darkness � Abandoned Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKUJZp4Kuc)
by Michiru Yamane (2005) for the Xbox and PlayStation 2


My vote is for Abandoned Castle.

My vote goes for..........



Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse — Beginning

... mazuii... etto... Abandon Katsuru

Abandoned Castle

Abandoned Castle
a suprisingly silent final compared to semifinals heh :)

a suprisingly silent final compared to semifinals

Yeah. Everybody's busy with school, I think. Me included. I'm in the midst of grading. :-\

Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse — Beginning

Damn, I missed the previous round; Super Castlevania IV was definitely the most deserving track of the 4.

Given the two that I have to pick from, I guess I go with Castlevania III.

Castlevania III: Beginning

It's been 4 days, and we're tied at 4-4. I'll leave this open for one more day and see if we can't get a couple more votes.

Well, i love Abandoned Castle but my vote goes for Beginning

And the winner of the Castlevania battle is�



Castlevania III: Dracula�s Curse � Beginning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGq9VjJXVh8)!
by Yoshinori Sasaki, Jun Funahashi, and Yukie Morimoto (1989)

This piece is an intricate work, but that fact may be overwhelmed by the broad strokes and catchiness of the melody. Underneath that is a rocking, dynamic, start/stop bass line and some subtle and effective percussion. One thing that�s particularly nice about this song is the way the third section, starting at :32, halves the tempo for a brief moment before we go back into the trills and embellishments and full-on momentum of the rest of the piece. So much happens in :50. It�d be a daunting task to give any composer that small an amount of time to establish a mood, but here we get a melody that is both delicate and harsh, a bass line that is both rocking and graceful, percussion that is precise but heavy�all contributing to a piece that overall is one of the series' best mixtures of baroque and rock.

Fun Fact: The Japanese version of the game had a specialized �VRC6� music microprocessor chip that added two extra pulse-wave channels and a saw-wave channel to help more closely replicate the sound of a synthesized string section. This chip was removed for the North American and European versions of the games.

Record: 7-1, 7-0, 6-3, 4-3, 5-4

Well, that was another great battle. Thanks to all of you who voted! I hope you enjoyed it.

We�ll continue with NES soundtracks and vote on the next battle very soon.

Just a reminder: if you have an idea for a theme that you�d like to do, shoot me a PM. I�m open to anything. Also, you can see and make suggestions on the themes I�ve already worked on at our VGM Rumble Group, found here (http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20).

I am completely Satisfied with the Final Result. =D

Oh my gosh!! I cant believe i missed the finals =[.

Ive been nowhere near internet access atm. i keep missing out.

Oh well.....

The old school music from Castlevania are the best, i love the new ones but they don�t have the same epic feeling.

So is something going to go along with the rest of the NES rumble, or will it go solo?

We�ll continue with NES soundtracks and vote on the next battle very soon.

I'm assuming this means the next round of voting will be the continuation of the NES rumble and a vote for the next theme to accompany it.

As for the winner of the Castlevania rumble, I can't say I'm displeased; both were worthy winners whichever way it went ;)

and vote on the next battle very soon.


Oh, right. I'm stupid.

:facepalm:

Oh my gosh!! I cant believe i missed the finals =[.

Yeah, you've missed a lot. But it�s good to have you back. :)


As for the winner of the Castlevania rumble, I can't say I'm displeased; both were worthy winners whichever way it went

I completely agree. I have to say, I had a lot of fun doing that one. I didn't ever get tired of the Castlevania songs�I actually enjoyed them more as the rumble went on. Thanks again to everyone who participated!

And now, we're continuing the NES soundtracks rumble below. But you also need to put in a second vote for one or more of the rumble ideas. Besides the one you�d most enjoy doing, also mention any other rumbles that you�d be interested in. As always, majority rules. After reaching a decision, we'll spend next round finalizing the song/soundtrack selection. And then we'll get started...


The NES Soundtracks Rumble

Round 1, Fight 29

Wizards and Warriors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzRTkWhtDYs)

vs.

Super Mario Bros. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WsaclyckD8)


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Deciding the Next Rumble Rumble

More details about each can be found here ( http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20). Choose one or more�

1) The Best of Nobuo Uematsu � 16 soundtracks

2) The Best of the SNES � 64 soundtracks

3) The Best of the Genesis � 64 soundtracks

4) The Best of Mega Man � 32 songs

5) None (we'd focus on the NES rumble and do 2 fights at a time instead of 1)


I�m happy with whatever we do, so I�m only going to vote for an NES soundtrack. And that's tough enough that I'm just going to reduce it to numbers. I like more songs off Wizards and Warriors than Super Mario Bros. 2, even though SMB2 is the better game and makes me more nostalgic.

Super Mario Brothers 2

My votes for what's next:
Best of Genesis
Best of Mega Man


So...I listen to most of each entire soundtrack before I vote on these, and I have to say, Wizards and Warriors is disappointing for me. They are like Michael Jackson tunes with no melody, just the cool underlying rhythms. I mean, cool underlying rhythms are great, but not at the expense of a good melody, and Wizards and Warriors just failed to deliver that melody after giving a cool bass line and/or background time and time again. I will say this, I enjoyed the backgrounds, but that's all they seemed to be.

Super Mario Brothers 2 on the other hand delivers great melodies (only like 4, but they're great) in my opinion, so it gets my vote.





(also, I was serious about Rad Racer for the Nobuo Uematsu list)

Super Mario Bros. 2

Wizards and Warriors definately had some interesting tracks, but still not really enough to compete with SMB2 in my mind.

As for the next rumble, my first choice is easily the Mega Man rumble. After that, I'd probably say the Uematsu rumble, but really I'd be happy with anything - I didn't vote for the Castlevania rumble IIRC, but like Arthur said it just got better as we went along. If it's VGM I'm already sold ;)

SMB2 in a walk, it might actually have the most distinctive soundtrack of the series.

I would love to see either a SNES or Genesis rumble. Preferably Genesis.

(also, I was serious about Rad Racer for the Nobuo Uematsu list)

Sorry! I completely forgot about that. I'm sure the other lists need to be updated as well with the most recent suggestions. I'll take care of all that once we finish voting.

SMB 2 for sure.

As far as the next rumble, I would say go with option 5, at least until we get down to the quarters or semis or something. As far as the next rumble which would start at that point... I'll vote for Mega Man.

Super Mario Bros 2

My proposition for what to do next:

1. We start Uematsu Rumble now -it is relatively short, so after we will be done with it, we can concentrate solely on NES rumble.
2. After NES rumble final result, we go with double rumble again Genesis (or Snes) + Mega Man.
3. After Mega Man we can repeat the composer 16 soundtrack rumble, with f.e. Yasunori Mitsuda or Hitohi Sakimoto?
4. Finally after that, we can repeat the proces - the remaining console rumble + 32 songs long rumble ( Suikoden this time maybe?) + 16 songs long rumble

Of course, it's just a proposition

btw The other question is, if Arthur will have nothing against the horror of doing two rumbles at time repeatedly from now on ;)

1. We start Uematsu Rumble now -it is relatively short, so after we will be done with it, we can concentrate solely on NES rumble.
2. After NES rumble final result, we go with double rumble again Genesis (or Snes) + Mega Man.
3. After Mega Man we can repeat the composer 16 soundtrack rumble, with f.e. Yasunori Mitsuda or Hitohi Sakimoto?
4. Finally after that, we can repeat the proces - the remaining console rumble + 32 songs long rumble ( Suikoden this time maybe?) + 16 songs long rumble

^ This is a very nice plan, I'll throw my support behind this, even if it means delaying Mega Man ;)

On that thought, the 32 rumble could be another of the theme rumbles like the Aquatic one we had previously. Plus with those suggestion threads floating around, it could make Arthur's life easier to pick the tracks.
But that said, there's plenty of game series just waiting to be covered ;)



The other question is, if Arthur will have nothing against the horror of doing two rumbles at time repeatedly from now on ;)

I don't think he has a choice anymore ;)

Super Mario Bros 2

My proposition for what to do next:

1. We start Uematsu Rumble now -it is relatively short, so after we will be done with it, we can concentrate solely on NES rumble.
2. After NES rumble final result, we go with double rumble again Genesis (or Snes) + Mega Man.
3. After Mega Man we can repeat the composer 16 soundtrack rumble, with f.e. Yasunori Mitsuda or Hitohi Sakimoto?
4. Finally after that, we can repeat the proces - the remaining console rumble + 32 songs long rumble ( Suikoden this time maybe?) + 16 songs long rumble

Of course, it's just a proposition

btw The other question is, if Arthur will have nothing against the horror of doing two rumbles at time repeatedly from now on ;)


Fair enough to me, Great proposition, Cheers my friend. It's in perfect order to me. I'll support this proposition. =D

I'll give some love to Wizards and Warriors.

As for the next rumble, I'm all for some Genesis music, but Uematsu will be just as fine if nobody wants the Genesis rumble.

Genesis and Megaman Rumble!!!

Wizard & Warriors... I couldn't find anything catchy in Super Mario Brothers 2

Sorry for the wait! Super Mario Bros. 2 beat Wizards and Warriors (5-3), and the Uematsu rumble won with 5 votes, followed by the Genesis and the Mega Man rumbles each earning 4 votes. I think Szczepan had a great idea for the long-term (and it would accommodate the second place vote-getters here), but we can certainly wait on that decision until later. For the short term, it looks like we�re set.

Unfortunately, I�ll need a few days to get the Uematsu rumble up and running (holiday madness is taking up most of my time). So let�s do two NES soundtracks right now, since they�re ready to go, and then we�ll get the Uematsu soundtrack/song selection finalized next.


The NES Soundtracks Rumble

Round 1, Fight 30

Mega Man 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCL2lMUP_U4)

vs.

Gremlins 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoiZOFC_dBk)

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The NES Soundtracks Rumble

Round 1, Fight 31

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUHei0vtrZo)

vs.

Guardian Legend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKvXQwwmoBY)


My votes are for Mega Man 3 and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Only one fight left in the first round of the NES Soundtracks rumble!

Got to agree with you, Arthur!! Mega Man 3 and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (River is an awesome track from TMNT, but I HATED that level)

(I hadn't ever heard Guardian Legend before, but I enjoyed it!)

Mega Man 3

Guardian Legend

Mega Man 3

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Gremlins 2's soundtrack is an effective (in parts) continuation of Goldsmith's style, but I have to go with Mega Man - far more epic and the best title music of the series.

I have to go with Mega Man - far more epic and the best title music of the series.

The MM3 title music was pretty much the determining factor for me, too, but I also love the Gremlins 2 and Guardian Legend soundtracks. One of the first VGM playlists I ever made myself had a Gremlins 2 song on it. Definitely listen to all four soundtracks; it's a tough choice!

Mega Man 3
Guardian Legend

Mega Man 3 & Guardian Legend

I hadn't actually even played Guardian Legend until 2 or 3 weeks ago when I happened to find a copy at a garage sale. Love the game, love the soundtrack.

The MM3 title music was pretty much the determining factor for me, too, but I also love the Gremlins 2 and Guardian Legend soundtracks. One of the first VGM playlists I ever made myself had a Gremlins 2 song on it. Definitely listen to all four soundtracks; it's a tough choice!
Oh I have, and always do!

As it happens, I watched the first Gremlins movie this evening for the first time in years, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Anarchically funny with many a disturbing shift in tone. The scene where Mrs Deagle answers to the door to a what she assumes is a bunch of 'glue-sniffing' Christmas carolers is still one of my favs. It's hilarious, but truly horrifying as well when she shrieks fatalistically "THEY'VE COME FOR ME!!!".

Why do I find myself identifying with the old witch at that moment?! :erm:

Anyway, I played a good bit of Gremlins 2 for the NES straight after and now I'm feeling guilty for going with the obvious choice of Mega Man..

Anyway, I played a good bit of Gremlins 2 for the NES straight after and now I'm feeling guilty for going with the obvious choice of Mega Man..

HA! Our Lens... I still think Mega Man 3 is the better Soundtrack, but I also like Gremlins II (NES).

Gremlins (the movie) is hilarious, and i've always liked it!! I love it when the gremlins rig the old lady's chair lift on the stairs so that it shoots her through the roof. That part always makes me laugh the hardest for some reason... I'm laughing right now thinking about it.

*edit* just realized that it's a bit funny that I didn't vote for gremlins given my avatar ><

Megaman 3 (my favorite Megaman game of all time) & Guardian Legend (another game were the main character was female, the box art reminds me of the final boss of Life Force)

Mega Man 3

Guardian Legend

Even though I hadn't heard of Guardian Legend until just recently, it definitely earns my vote for being awesome.

Gremlins was also pretty scary for a kid�s movie. I remember when the guy in the school lab was stabbed to death by a syringe. But my favorite scene might be from the second one where Billy walks into the bathroom and the recorded voice says, �Hey mister. Welcome to the men�s room!� :)

Well, it�s a blow-out for Mega Man 3 (8-0) and a come-from-behind win for Guardian Legend (5-3). We�ve got one fight left in the first round of the NES soundtracks rumble. But let�s finalize everything with Uematsu first. So I�ll post the current soundtrack/song list and leave that up for two days. Check it out and see if there are any soundtracks you want on the list and any songs that you think would better represent the soundtrack than the ones below (which were chosen for their diversity as much as their quality). After two days, I�ll finalize everything and we�ll have the first fight of the Uematsu rumble at the same time as the last fight of Round 1 of the NES soundtracks rumble.

I should also make an additional note. Every song link for Anata o Yurusanai goes to the same full-soundtrack download page, which was provided by Szczepan. Since the soundtrack is rare and, consequently, unavailable on the usual places like YouTube, imeem, last.fm, or Groove Shark, this download will be the only source for the songs during the rumble. If this will be a problem for anyone, please let me know. For Lord of Vermilion, YouTube links will be used like usual, but jakob.nelson has also provided a full-soundtrack download link on the Uematsu page ( http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=36&pp=10&page=2). Big thanks to both of them!

Okay. Now let�s get started. Let me know if you see any changes that should be made.

1. Anata o Yurusanai* � Toneless (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), Life is Like Fried Eggs (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), You From a Distance ~ Opening (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), Shadow Scat (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4), Between Lie and Truth (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SOQMNXL4)
2. Blue Dragon � The Land Shark Is Coming! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Ex-5FMpZ4), In Search of the Ruins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgSnKwn7dwU), The Frozen Village (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVeyjgYudI), Mecha-Robo Corps Charge! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFtPxR60Zes), Eternity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjxPj3al5U)
3. Chrono Trigger* � Primitive Mountain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os4Cy6wcVYw), Creeping through the Sewers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKkjcVCLS4), Silent Light (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y3DqlYFqw0), Tyran Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gVkEUmwstA), Sealed Door (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEB4ZmOCi3s)
4. Final Fantasy I � Main Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lViSeukzQOQ&feature=related), Cornelia Castle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVQ1gbjztQ), Matoya�s Cavern (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR06uwC4e20&feature=related), Gurg Volcano (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYdSH34z5hg&feature=related), Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPF3AwVPM4&feature=related)
5. Final Fantasy III � Eternal Wind (http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/206/-vDlAJWSEIg), Battle 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG08jjdjCvE), Town of Water (http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/186/e2Y3zSDawUk), The Invincible (http://www.youtube.com/user/VideogamesOST#p/u/175/siAba6SN3Z4), This Is the Last Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAYGwujyx4)
6. Final Fantasy IV � Theme of Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPQeYUgVVE), Main Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqFz5IZSvM), Cry in Sorrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6nLfKZ3ktg), Goblez Clad in Dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSQSv521V8), Troian Beauty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6DSCriinkw)
7. Final Fantasy V � Ahead on Our Way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok047Uxu3Yw), Cursed Earth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy4H27tJ3nk), Reminiscence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdFi4kaJZ_A), My Home Sweet Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV9S6NnZ9xA), Battle with Gilgamesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CMTXyExkeI)
8. Final Fantasy VI � Terra�s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joRZL671Esk), Decisive Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqazbULRRA), Aria de Mezzo Carattere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqXb2FDK0Q), Dancing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ios6zLDR8AI) Mad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRGt_PvyT8), Devil�s Lab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMK-y8w6YhA)
9. Final Fantasy VII � The Birth of a God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGHkjLhIpU8), A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_5zD7rhwPo), One-Winged Angel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith�s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q85KIhPXrIQ), Cid�s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2WYkfGYD8k)
10. Final Fantasy VIII � Liberi Fatali (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Blue Fields (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQFiOq4VcRc), The Extreme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01mxuw31GVs), Eyes on Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcW0oiLKHg), Maybe I�m a Lion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYDT_Y6Jj5c)
11. Final Fantasy IX � The Place I�ll Return to Someday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLBrtpZ5gY), Battle 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o), Crossing Those Hills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk), Iifa Tree (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf6T7DCR5cU), Crystal World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dHPu3f-4A)
12. Final Fantasy X* � To Zanarkand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08RYp-uDpPo), Otherworld (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OONqel6f_8M), Auron�s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4iwYgd9N3Y), Jecht�s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP21V1sQUHI), Seymour Battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8)
13. Front Mission: Gun Hazard* � Gun Hazard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRjZLH1J4wk), Warning Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=01m36s), Secret Story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=02m39s), Blue Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgsychQf61Y), Message of Genoce (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRvPBP5t7M#t=04m34s)
14. Lord of Vermilion � Dawn of Vermilion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40G3Oo-NIVA), Black Dragon's Temple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34hf1kFHBSc), Spiege Snow Plains (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf34kiMLY-4), Meranji Sand Dunes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01WFSiaEJEQ), The Final Enemy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgSYD22nUyE)
15. Lost Odyssey � Neverending Journey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOsFLjBP94), Epsylon Range (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lntoikGwo), Ruins of the East (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLbbVyF5us), A Might Enemy Appears (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tr3NmURLQ), Dark Saint (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv6_bDfnHGc)
16. Rad Racer � Racing Track 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXTNj9wPvY), Racing Track 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dWg7pHhtPY), Racing Track 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZKGGl8XFY), Victory Lap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl5cwUAEpaA), Course Won (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPSWJcOWkqw)


Other Soundtracks
Final Fantasy Legend � Let It Begin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMby0tgeoQU), Battle Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIGs9srfIUk), Heartful Tears (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBZtbt6bnnY), Overworld (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGpI8YEQUIA), Unknown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsXe90QlA10)
Final Fantasy II � Revivification (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/2/vme03BOxZEE), Main Theme (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/5/0tboZy6x_bM), Imperial Army�s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/7/eJ_SQUQhQnU), Tower of Mages (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/9/p0xuTqvQ01U), Ancient Castle (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOSTation#p/c/47A62474675BFB4F/10/_qPBODxSxyw)


For soundtracks with a *, Nobuo did not write every song.
- On Chrono Trigger, he also wrote: Boss Battle 1, Mystery from the Past, People without Hope, Bike Chase, and Burn! Bobunga! Burn!
- On FFX, he wrote the ones marked with NU found here (http://www.soundtrackcentral.com/cds/finalfantasy10_ost.htm).
- On Front Mission: Gun Hazard, he also wrote: Tension, Shiver, Move, The President's Deadly Fight, Ominous Wind, Silencer, Escape, Richard Millman, Cenktrich, Successful Attack, Genoce, Sorrowful Karion, Transaction, Notice, Resistance, Remains, 202, Uneasy, Determination, Gardian, Sentinel, Nature, Atlas, and Promise! Engagement.
- On Anata o Yurusanai, he also wrote You From a Distance ~ Reprise, Short Night, Promise (a Toneless reprise), Attention!, Deep Inside Me, The End, and Bossa de Drive.

Main Theme should replace one of the VII songs. I'm not saying A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea isn't amazing, but you can tell Uematsu put like, no effort into it.

That or One Winged Angel.

And no Darkness of Eternity for IX makes me a sad panda.

. I'm not saying A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea isn't amazing, but you can tell Uematsu put like, no effort into it.



I happen to love "A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea." What makes you think he put no work into it? Just because it has a thin texture doesn't make it thoughtless. Main theme is good, though. I can see some merit to adding that.

For FF8, I should have paid more attention this list in the rumble group, but I really don't think that "Maybe I'm a Lion" deserves to be in that list. I would love to see "Silence and Motion" or "Fisherman's Horizon", maybe even "Tell Me" on that list instead. I also happen to not enjoy "Eyes on Me" but I know that many enjoy that one, so I won't even suggest that one be touched.

I do actually like it, I just though It'd be more realistic to remove that than One Winged Angel, which I don't particularly care for. Main Theme is my favourite Uematsu song, and the fact that it's called "Main Theme" kind of indicates it probably should be there.

The VIII list isn't that great either. It'd be a bit much to ask for Compression of Time (My favourite) but Silence and Motion, The Castle, Balamb Garden etc would be better than Maybe I'm a Lion, Blue Fields, and Eye on Me. Especially Eyes on Me.

Also, for FF1 I think Overworld Theme, Temple of Chaos, and Victory are better tunes than Corneria Castle. I'm a bit biased for Final Fantasy 1 as it's still one of my favorites from the series, but I love the whole soundtrack. I realize we can't include the entire thing, but I think these few might be better choices. The other ones you have listed that I didn't mention I think should stay.

I happen to love "A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea." What makes you think he put no work into it? Just because it has a thin texture doesn't make it thoughtless. Main theme is good, though. I can see some merit to adding that.

For FF8, I should have paid more attention this list in the rumble group, but I really don't think that "Maybe I'm a Lion" deserves to be in that list. I would love to see "Silence and Motion" or "Fisherman's Horizon", maybe even "Tell Me" on that list instead. I also happen to not enjoy "Eyes on Me" but I know that many enjoy that one, so I won't even suggest that one be touched.

I don't have any problem with "A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea.", but any battle theme would be better before "Birth of A God" In my opinion.

EDIT: I also agree with Q-Tip Trepe about putting FFVII Main Theme, I love that Song =D

I agree about FF8 Instead of "Maybe I'm a Lion" (in the case if we replace it with a song that it's as equally fast), I would replace it with "The Landing"

I want The Castle so badly for VIII.

And The Darkness of Eternity >>>> Battle 2, as far as Battle themes go.

What about...

For FF1
- Temple of Chaos for Corneria Castle

For FF7
- Main Theme for A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea
(since including both and removing Cid's Theme or one of the others would give a pretty mellow impression of the soundtrack)
* The Birth of a God was a request from the group page. It replaced J-E-N-O-V-A. However, I'm happy to switch it out if we can get more than one vote to agree on a replacement that's in the same vein (i.e., a battle theme or fast-paced song).

For FF8
- Balamb Garden for Blue Fields
- Silence and Motion for Eyes on Me
- The Castle for Maybe I'm a Lion
* Here I'm okay with cutting Maybe I'm a Lion without putting in another battle theme because we already have The Extreme and Liberi Fatali.

For FF9
- The Darkness of Eternity for Iifa Tree


What do you think of these changes? Also, is the soundtrack selection okay? Uematsu's discography can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobuo_Uematsu).

^I have nothing against those changes , but I am not sure if Crystal World should represent FFIX in this rumble. I like this track, but it's a remixed ver of music that can be found in every FF. I would love to see Terra or Bran Bal here instead ...

Bran Bal for Crystal World seems like a good switch to me.

I think that your switch for FF1 is great and am now content. :)

Apologies for recycling information, but I needed to see the changes written out another way. So here's what we're looking at:

9. Final Fantasy VII — Main Theme, One-Winged Angel, Aerith’s Theme, Cid’s Theme, and A Better Battle Theme
10. Final Fantasy VIII — Liberi Fatali, Balamb Garden, The Extreme, Silence and Motion, The Castle
11. Final Fantasy IX — The Place I’ll Return to Someday, Battle 2, Crossing Those Hills, The Darkness of Eternity, Bran Bal

Are those fair representations of the soundtracks? If so, the biggest question left, then, is what battle theme to use from Final Fantasy 7. Any ideas?

Also, this probably doesn't need to be said but if anyone has had their favorite song removed from the list, that song still, of course, is part of the soundtrack and can influence voting. When you vote, you can always say, "I'm voting for FF VIII because of Residents," and provide a link.