Smarty
03-14-2011, 10:10 AM
I'm back! Sorry, I went on a school trip to Athens for 4 days. I got back last night and I've been sleeping for something like 12 hours since then. But I won't be going anywhere anytime soon, so I'll be here regularly from now on.
Metal Man
Title
topopoz
03-14-2011, 01:01 PM
I think it is quite appropriate that there are two songs from games not named Mega Man 2 that could form the championship match. Mega Man 2 has a great soundtrack, but the esteem it is held in compared to other games in the series is unwarranted.
We agree.
arthurgolden
03-14-2011, 11:08 PM
@Smarty: Glad to have you back! How was Greece?
Smarty
03-14-2011, 11:23 PM
You should be asking how Athens was. I live in Greece ;)
But yeah, it was great. We didn't get to visit the city as much as I would have hoped, but we still saw quite a bit. Theaters, museums and of course the Parthenon were all on our to do list. Overall, I had a great time. It's kind of a dirty city though and you can pretty much see junkies anywhere you look. Definitely a lot more different than what I'm used to.
arthurgolden
03-16-2011, 06:25 PM
How did I not know that?!
Well, I'm glad it was a good trip! I had a friend who got a grant to spend last year in Greece writing about her experiences, and so she was there during the riots. She still had nothing but good things to say.
arthurgolden
03-17-2011, 01:45 AM
I'm going to let this one run a little long as well. Any more voters?
In the meantime, here's a great video tied to fund-raising for the Japan catastrophe: Honk if you love Japan (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cciUXpITsu0)
A little more on-topic: topopoz has confirmed that Kinuyo Yamashita (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f2/so-japan-stuff-right-now-87169/2.html#post1651855) is okay, although justifiably shaken up.
Kow Otani (
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://twitter.com/kowotani&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtwitter.com/KowOtani%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DZoZ%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjwfLJtmyZzxTiDlSnCZXVXsYy66A), Yoko Shimomura (
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://twitter.com/midiplex&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtwitter.com/midiplex%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DBAF%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjorlaTz17ciBLQ_ErYzcRDDQXXUA), Nobuo Uematsu (
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://twitter.com/UematsuNobuo&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtwitter%2Bnobuo%2Buematsu%26hl%3Den%2 6client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DttK%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divnso&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhhuh8UADuiFrlRFs68G8RMnoAnT9Q), and Akira Yamaoka (
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://twitter.com/akirayamaoka&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtwitter%2Bakira%2Byamaoka%26hl%3Den%2 6client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D1Vu%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divnso&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhju6T2b0fHUm1zOGgrfYGeh0H51kg) are all okay, too.
Anyone follow other vgm composers or video game people on Twitter?
topopoz
03-17-2011, 01:53 AM
Mitsuda, Sakimoto are okay as well.
"Hitoshi Sakimoto
RT @basiscape_en: We'd like to express our sympathy to all those affected by the earthquake in Japan.We will try to keep encouraging everybody with our music."
That's what he posted on Facebook & Twitter
Mitsuda just said:
"Yasunori Mitsuda
Thank you. I'm ok.
."
If see if I can get any other info.
KEEP STRONG JAPAN!
Smarty
03-17-2011, 01:12 PM
Fumito Ueda, Suda51 and their respective teams are all OK. The guys at Atlus are all fine as well. I'm glad nobody was hurt.
arthurgolden
03-18-2011, 06:18 PM
Metal Man and Spark Mandrill are tied. If no one adds a vote within a day, we'll go to a coin flip. But I'm hoping to not have to do that for the finals.
Link006
03-19-2011, 03:51 AM
Lets get some votes people!
jakob
03-19-2011, 05:09 AM
Metal Man
Mega Man 2 deserves the high esteem it's held in.
Also, Mega Man 3 Title
because it's awesome.
arthurgolden
03-20-2011, 05:36 AM
Thanks to jakob for the tie-break! So with that vote, we�ve got our finalists. Both good, both with a lot of votes in previous rounds, and both capable of winning this thing. Let�s get this started.
The Mega Man Songs Rumble
Final Round
Mega Man 2 � Metal Man (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AREhaZ6O2Yo)
by Takashi Tateishi, Manami Matsumae, and Yoshihiro Sakaguchi (1988)
vs.
Mega Man 3 � Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiQgYfyUdDs)
by Yasuaki Fujita (1990)
My vote is for Metal Man.
Smarty
03-20-2011, 07:28 AM
Title by a hair
topopoz
03-20-2011, 03:34 PM
Mega Man 3 – Title
Link006
03-20-2011, 09:18 PM
Disappointed that Mega Man X didn't get any representatives to the championship game, but it wouldn't have changed my vote. Mega Man 3's title was a concern for me the moment I saw the draw and realized it would face my beloved X Stage Select screen in the first round. This is a very worthy winner.
Mega Man 3.
topopoz
03-20-2011, 09:39 PM
I'm hearing ya Link.
Picking fauvorites from Mega Man or Castlevania is a very weird thing to do, the contruction & evolution of the music of those franchises is mixed, you can see advancements & stagnations at the same time, unlike with RPG franchises like FF, picking fauvorites will always come down to VI, VII or VIII.
The recognition of MM2 is somewhat bizarre & unpleasant to me. It's like the nostalgic title theme touches everybody & they kinda forget the rest of the soundtrack and then by default they forget the rest of the music of the whole franchise.
MM2 best music of the NES? Not by a longshot IMO.
That's my 2 cents on this Final Round.
jakob
03-20-2011, 10:52 PM
Well, we aren't voting for best music of the NES but for best Mega Man music. For that, Mega Man 2 definitely pulls ahead of the rest.
Metal Man
topopoz
03-21-2011, 12:12 AM
Well, we aren't voting for best music of the NES but for best Mega Man music. For that, Mega Man 2 definitely pulls ahead of the rest.
No we aren't, but in the NES rumble Arthur mentioned that it was the best soundtrack of NES according to "I don't know what magazine" & it was also the winner in our rumble, that's why I mentioned that.
And about this rumble, IMO MM2 does not pull it ahead of the rest either. But I won't raise any argument here. We're on totally different spectrums.
Smarty
03-21-2011, 01:58 PM
While I definitely think we have a worthy winner this rumble, I'm still a little bit disappointed that my actual favorite Mega Man track (Mega Man 4 - Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx-L-3hRpX4&feature=related)) wasn't even in the rumble.
Of course it was already round 2 by the time I noticed, and too little too late :(
And a little side note... If you haven't checked out the most amazing remix ever (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4FsgBi2AY), of what looks like will be our winner this rumble, then you are missing out my friends.
topopoz
03-21-2011, 02:17 PM
And a little side note... If you haven't checked out the most amazing remix ever (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4FsgBi2AY), of what looks like will be our winner this rumble, then you are missing out my friends.
EPIC
Link006
03-21-2011, 03:57 PM
I didn't hear as much of the original sound of the theme as I would have liked, but it was REALLY well done. I added it to my bookmarks!
I definitely think that song could have made it in, especially over Bubble Man; what a travesty including that track was. I mentioned earlier, but I think Blizzard Man (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQKiHZVLFAk) could have done VERY well against everything in the Final Four and probably would have slaughtered Flash Man. The other three; kind of a toss up; probably would have lost to Spark Mandrill and Title for sure.
arthurgolden
03-23-2011, 07:35 AM
The recognition of MM2 is somewhat bizarre & unpleasant to me. It's like the nostalgic title theme touches everybody & they kinda forget the rest of the soundtrack and then by default they forget the rest of the music of the whole franchise.
Well, I�d argue the title track isn�t what makes the soundtrack great (note it isn�t even part of the rumble). Certainly, nostalgia can make any soundtrack seem better. But I�m not sure that�s the case here. It�s popular among many, many fans, which is demonstrable through the number of lists that pop up with its soundtrack in the top 10 or 20. If it was just nostalgia clouding people�s judgment, I�m not sure the soundtrack would be as popular as it is.
I�d argue it�s the consistent quality across the tracks that make Mega Man 2 so popular. Not only do I think the music is catchy and fun, but also nicely reflects the themes of the stages each song is supposed to represent. Flash Man, Metal Man, Wily Stage 1, and the Ending Theme are all great songs, in my opinion. And several more�Crash Man, Heat Man, Wood Man, Quick Man, and the title theme�are very good songs.
I also don�t necessarily agree that the other soundtracks are forgotten. Mega Man 2 gets most of the attention, but I see a lot of love for 1, 3, 4, 9, and X as well.
No we aren't, but in the NES rumble Arthur mentioned that it was the best soundtrack of NES according to "I don't know what magazine" & it was also the winner in our rumble, that's why I mentioned that.
To be specific, what I said was that if you google �Best NES soundtrack,� Mega Man 2 is on a ton of the lists that pop up. Which is true.
I could see an argument that that popularity makes it overrated, because how can any soundtrack live up to that kind of hype? And that may make it annoying to hear about if you only think the soundtrack is okay. That makes sense to me.
But I�m not mystified by the popularity either. Could just be a difference in musical tastes.
I definitely think we have a worthy winner this rumble.
I agree. It�s surprising to me that the finals of the last two rumbles have led to so much disappointment.
/sigh/
Is it just that we�ll never have a winner that satisfies everyone? Or do people feel bad, undeserving music is getting the spotlight? I don�t get it.
I definitely think [Mega Man 4 � Title] could have made it in, especially over Bubble Man; what a travesty including that track was. I mentioned earlier, but I think Blizzard Man (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQKiHZVLFAk) could have done VERY well against everything in the Final Four and probably would have slaughtered Flash Man. The other three; kind of a toss up; probably would have lost to Spark Mandrill and Title for sure.
Let�s use this frustration constructively. If the system for choosing the songs isn�t working, what can we do to improve it?
Blizzard Man was part of a long discussion; people voted for it to be taken off the list after it was already on. A list of cuts was proposed. I asked for people to vouch for any of the cuts that they wanted to remain. Two and a half months passed, and no one said anything about Blizzard Man�although many more songs were discussed. Eventually, people expressed satisfaction with the intended revisions, and the list was updated.
Is the problem that the group pages are hidden from view and easily forgotten? Or that the rumbles take too long to get going? There were people in the Mega Man discussion who were Rumble regulars at the time but have since left the Shrine. Should we only work on rumble song-lists once the rumble has been decided?
What can I do to improve the system? I�m open to suggestions. But to spend a year discussing the song list (10/28/09 � 11/29/10), accommodating everyone who made suggestions, only to have people feel cheated now is disheartening, to say the least.
Give me something to go with here.
topopoz
03-23-2011, 01:51 PM
Well, I’d argue the title track isn’t what makes the soundtrack great (note it isn’t even part of the rumble). Certainly, nostalgia can make any soundtrack seem better. But I’m not sure that’s the case here. It’s popular among many, many fans, which is demonstrable through the number of lists that pop up with its soundtrack in the top 10 or 20. If it was just nostalgia clouding people’s judgment, I’m not sure the soundtrack would be as popular as it is.
I’d argue it’s the consistent quality across the tracks that make Mega Man 2 so popular. Not only do I think the music is catchy and fun, but also nicely reflects the themes of the stages each song is supposed to represent. Flash Man, Metal Man, Wily Stage 1, and the Ending Theme are all great songs, in my opinion. And several more—Crash Man, Heat Man, Wood Man, Quick Man, and the title theme—are very good songs.
I also don’t necessarily agree that the other soundtracks are forgotten. Mega Man 2 gets most of the attention, but I see a lot of love for 1, 3, 4, 9, and X as well.
To be more specific, the Soundtrack of MM2 was also very popular IMO because, from the NES era of MM games, it's the most playable, there are some improvements on the contruction of the game comparing it to MM1, specially regarding the order of exploration of lvl's. Also, IMO it's the easiest one from the NES.
And believe it or not the fame of the game, made the fame of the soundtrack as well. That's maybe one of the biggest reasons that nostalgia hits the spot here.
I won't argue about the consistency or quality of the tracks, while I recognize them to be pretty good & even though my tastes are very particular, I'll have to agree with Link here, the attention it get's it's pretty much unwarranted.
And I've never heard anyone or anywhere giving a good discussion of the music of X series. All I hear is about MM2, it's title track & that's about it.
To be specific, what I said was that if you google “Best NES soundtrack,” Mega Man 2 is on a ton of the lists that pop up. Which is true.
Oh well, xD. But I was close? xD
But I’m not mystified by the popularity either. Could just be a difference in musical tastes.
Probably.
I agree. It’s surprising to me that the finals of the last two rumbles have led to so much disappointment.
You're refering to Genesis & this one, or there's another one too?.
Is it just that we’ll never have a winner that satisfies everyone?
You can't satisfy everyone.
But I think that with CV Rumble everybody was satisfied. I don't know, can't remember.
Or do people feel bad, undeserving music is getting the spotlight? I don’t get it.
This could probably be one of the reasons why some aren't satisfied.
Let’s use this frustration constructively. If the system for choosing the songs isn’t working, what can we do to improve it?
Blizzard Man was part of a long discussion; people voted for it to be taken off the list after it was already on. A list of cuts was proposed. I asked for people to vouch for any of the cuts that they wanted to remain. Two and a half months passed, and no one said anything about Blizzard Man—although many more songs were discussed. Eventually, people expressed satisfaction with the intended revisions, and the list was updated.
Is the problem that the group pages are hidden from view and easily forgotten? Or that the rumbles take too long to get going? There were people in the Mega Man discussion who were Rumble regulars at the time but have since left the Shrine. Should we only work on rumble song-lists once the rumble has been decided?
What can I do to improve the system? I’m open to suggestions. But to spend a year discussing the song list (10/28/09 – 11/29/10), accommodating everyone who made suggestions, only to have people feel cheated now is disheartening, to say the least.
Give me something to go with here.
IMO the problem is the lack of feedback. I see that many go to visit & they don't provide with suggestions. There's also the issue that many left the forum or they're not voting anymore.
They probably think that they don't have the proper knowledge to provide with some thoughts. I admit to be one of those.
At the same time there's a lot of new voters as well & that brings a lot of change on the results. Thus the reason why some can be unsatisfied.
So don't feel so terrible if the case is like this with this rumble in particular. It seems to be that this rumble was ready long before many of us arrived to this forum & Since many old voters left & at the same time the number of new voters is thin. I understand why things went like this.
I'll suggest that rumbles should run on a certain order. That's why I said when we voted for Suiko rumble, that we can't keep stocking rumbles & let them in oblivion.
If I can come up with more Ideas, I'll surely tell ya.
Chocolate Misu
03-23-2011, 09:16 PM
Ack I haven't voted in a while :( Metal Man
Link006
03-24-2011, 04:37 AM
Bingo on the lack of input. My job is rather seasonal and I didn't even have time to look at those pages to provide feedback.
In the end, if an undeserving track gets in it is YOUR fault (the individual voter) for not bringing it up and getting it dumped. It certainly isn't the process' fault or the rumble's fault. The Rumble is only as good as the voters make it.
arthurgolden
03-25-2011, 09:24 AM
We've got a tie between Metal Man and Title, with the whole rumble on the line. We'll see if we can get any more voters.
aces4839
03-27-2011, 05:57 AM
might as well vote. Title
arthurgolden
03-27-2011, 10:02 PM
And the winner of the Mega Man battle is�
Mega Man 3 � Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiQgYfyUdDs)!
by Yasuaki Fujita (1990)
If Mega Man 3 hadn�t raised the bar even higher than its predecessor, it�s likely we wouldn�t be talking about Mega Man today. While 2 was a success, its development was marred by doubts and ultimatums from the higher-ups, and there was clearly some creative tension left over during the next game�s production. Funny that players knew they were in for something good right from the beginning, as soon as the Capcom copyrights popped up and the music started.
Bonus: With lyrics (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL30lU26egw)
Record: 4-1, 5-0, 4-1, 4-1, 4-3
Well, that was another great battle. Thanks to all of you who voted! I hope you enjoyed it.
We�ll continue with Suikoden and vote on the next battle very soon.
Just a reminder: if you have an idea for a theme that you�d like to do, post it on our group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20), where you can also see and make suggestions on the themes we�ve already worked on.
Bonus pictures:

Link006
03-28-2011, 04:09 PM
A very worthy winner. While I think this was the far and away best choice out of the final four, 3 out of the 4 were really really good choices. At least now I can rest in knowing that Mega Man X - Stage Select went out in the first round.... but at least it was to the eventual champion. :)
arthurgolden
03-29-2011, 03:55 AM
To keep things moving along...
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 1, Fight 13
Suikoden III � Searching for a Hero (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5gB9I8_2o)
by Michiru Yamane, Takashi Yoshida, and Masahiko Kimura (2002)
vs.
Suikoden II � Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deciding the Next Rumble Rumble
For the below vote, it�s better to put down several so that I know which theme would appeal to the largest number of people. As always, majority rules.
More details about each rumble can be found here (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20). Choose one or more�
1) The Best of the PS2 � 64 soundtracks - Started June 2010
2) The Best of the PS1 � 64 soundtracks - Started November 2010
3) The Composers Rumble � 64 composers - Started December 2010
4) The Best of Hitoshi Sakimoto � 16 soundtracks - Started December 2010
5) The Best of The Legend of Zelda � 64/128 songs - Started February 2011
6) The Best of Final Fantasy � 64/128 songs - Started February 2011
7) None (we'd focus on the Suikoden rumble and do 2 fights at a time instead of 1)
My Suikoden vote is for Searching for a Hero.
aces4839
03-29-2011, 04:18 AM
about time the suikoden rumble came back up. anyway, Searching For A Hero
topopoz
03-29-2011, 01:27 PM
Suikoden II – Imprisoned Town - This is my type of song....
Smarty
03-29-2011, 01:53 PM
Best of the PS2. Unless you guys want to do a quick one, like Sakimoto.
Imprisoned Town. I really think we should get started on the PS2 rumble :/
Link006
03-30-2011, 02:01 PM
Suikoden II; I really like that flute section (if that is what it is) in there.
Next rumble... I don't really have a horse in the race. Frankly, The Legend of Zelda isn't ready for primetime. I'll vote for 4.
topopoz
03-30-2011, 02:41 PM
About rumbles I vote for focus on Suikoden...
Smarty
03-30-2011, 10:03 PM
This is sort of on topic and there might be some among you that are interested. Akira Yamaoka is auctioning his guitar to raise money he intends to donate to help his country. And we're talking about THE guitar which played all the Silent Hill music. Just thought I should mention this.
Play for Japan: Akira Yamaoka Silent Hill Guitar - eBay (item 160565804078 end time Apr-05-11 05:10:36 PDT) (
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemNext&item=160565804078&autorefresh=true#ht_1166wt_1139)
arthurgolden
04-02-2011, 07:07 PM
We've got 1 vote for the PS2 rumble, 1 vote to stay with Suikoden, and 2 votes (sorta) for Sakimoto. That doesn't show the kind of interest we've seen in the past. Plus, Sakimoto (the sorta winner) isn't ready and has only had contributions from one person on the group page in three months. So here's what I'm thinking. We'll finish out Suikoden and then re-assess after that's over.
arthurgolden
04-05-2011, 01:14 AM
First of all, welcome back now that the Shrine has been paid for. :D
Second of all, thanks to those who so quickly donated. That's another example of the generosity we already knew existed around here.
Third of all, thanks to Smarty for the interesting link.
Fourth of all, we’ve got a rumble to kick back into action. Imprisoned Town won the last fight (3-2). We haven’t had any responses to my suggestion to finish the Suikoden rumble, so I’m assuming this is the plan unless you all have a suggestion. That means the next fights up are…
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 1, Fight 14
Suikoden Tierkreis – Citro Plains (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orw0aXZc-vQ)
by Yoshino Aoki, Norikazu Miura, Masaharu Iwata, Kaori Kamuro, and Hiroaki Tomuno (2008)
vs.
Suikoden II – Two Rivers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJW7RvqW-bU)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 1, Fight 15
Suikoden III – Noisy Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g71-GUCeAOA)
by Michiru Yamane, Takashi Yoshida, and Masahiko Kimura (2002)
vs.
Suikoden – Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
My votes are for two of my favorite songs from the series: Two Rivers and Eternal Flow.
In other news, a few people now do TAS videos where they play multiple games simultaneously with only a single input. For example, this guy played Super Mario Bros. 1, 2, 3, and the Lost Levels (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_AerCVhoTM) together. When he pressed A, every Mario jumped. When he pressed right, every Mario went right (although it's more complicated than that). I'm not sure whether the feat is impressive, since it's a TAS, but at least the time investment makes for an interesting watch. Likewise, here's one involving Mega Man 3, 4, 5, and 6 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5pz6waED0w). And here's one for Mega Man X and X2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AHVSamD5WQ). And, just to throw one more in there, Final Fantasy V and VI (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEn0yjEKnWA).
aces4839
04-05-2011, 05:10 PM
no vote for the first one & Noisy Wind
topopoz
04-05-2011, 08:53 PM
Citro Plains
Eternal Flow
Smarty
04-06-2011, 02:31 PM
Those videos are insane, I didn't think that was humanly possible.
Citro Plains
Eternal Flow
Link006
04-07-2011, 04:40 AM
Will vote tomorrow.
arthurgolden
04-08-2011, 06:12 AM
I think Link forgot. We'll give him a little more time, but we gotta get going soon.
Link006
04-08-2011, 03:56 PM
Sorry: had to pick up my sister from the airport. Don't wait on me. If I snooze, I lose.
Suikoden II and Suikoden.
arthurgolden
04-08-2011, 06:52 PM
Thanks Link! However, that means we have a 2-2 tie between Citro Plains and Two Rivers. I'll give this a little while, and if we don't get a vote, I'll go to a coin toss.
In the meantime, Suikoden didn't make this list (
http://www.complex.com/video-games/2011/03/25-best-stories-in-games/ocarina-of-time#gallery) of the 25 best stories in video games, but the subjects of several of our other rumbles did. What do you think about #1?
topopoz
04-08-2011, 11:14 PM
#1 sux
Silent Hill 2 or Chrono Trigger should've hitted the 1st place for that matter.
This list is pure Fanservice If I say so myself.
arthurgolden
04-09-2011, 06:31 AM
This is my vote:

arthurgolden
04-09-2011, 08:57 AM
Two Rivers won the coin toss, so that means it will be moving on along with Eternal Flow (4-1). Next up, the last fight of Round 1�
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 1, Fight 16
Suikoden V � Wind of Phantom (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmawYXFQws8)
by Norikazu Miura (2006)
vs.
Suikoden II � Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
And it's a good one. But my vote is for Gothic Neclord. Gotta love this dude (
http://www.suikosource.com/images/chars/n/neclord03.gif) and his architectural style (

).
Smarty
04-09-2011, 09:08 AM
Gothic Neclord
That list totally lost me when I saw Resi 4 at #6. Not to mention that Uncharted 2 and Kingdom Hearts are on the list at all. I guess no two people will ever agree on the matter because opinions exist, but come the fuck on! Kingdom Hearts, Uncharted 2 and Resi 4 are some of the best stories you've seen in a video game?
although adding Planescape: Torment and God of War was a nice touch
aces4839
04-09-2011, 03:17 PM
Wind of Phantom
topopoz
04-10-2011, 04:57 PM
Gothic Neclord - Although this track is particularilly very "non-Suiko", Wind of Phantom electric guitar kinda turned me off big time. The melody was great though, but it isn't something that comes to mind when we talk about Suikoden.
That list totally lost me when I saw Resi 4 at #6. Not to mention that Uncharted 2 and Kingdom Hearts are on the list at all. I guess no two people will ever agree on the matter because opinions exist, but come the fuck on! Kingdom Hearts, Uncharted 2 and Resi 4 are some of the best stories you've seen in a video game?
although adding Planescape: Torment and God of War was a nice touch
Super Cliched overused but modified storylines sell a lot. RE4 storyline Sucks big time and could be easily replaced by almost any other RE title.
That list is pure Fanservice man.
KOTOR 1 got at the top 10? MGS3 at 3rd Place? WTF?!
One of the worst lists that I've ever seen.
Smarty
04-10-2011, 05:31 PM
Super Cliched overused but modified storylines sell a lot.
Selling is one thing, I just don't see the need to praise them. Uncharted 2 is like that as well. Kingdom Hearts is just fucking awful and I have no idea what it's doing anywhere near a list like this one.
topopoz
04-11-2011, 01:58 AM
Selling is one thing, I just don't see the need to praise them. Uncharted 2 is like that as well. Kingdom Hearts is just fucking awful and I have no idea what it's doing anywhere near a list like this one.
They Sell well because they praise them. If not they wouldn't be named... You wouldn't know how many morons claim RE 4 to have one of the best storylines in gaming.
Link006
04-11-2011, 02:48 AM
Suikoden II.
Chocolate Misu
04-11-2011, 05:09 AM
I like both but Suikoden V – Wind of Phantom.
arthurgolden
04-11-2011, 07:17 PM
Gothic Neclord got the win there (4-2). And now it�s on to Round 2�
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 1
Suikoden II � Two Rivers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJW7RvqW-bU)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
vs.
Suikoden III � Exceeding Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs)
by Michiru Yamane, Takashi Yoshida, and Masahiko Kimura (2002)
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 2
Suikoden V � A Nap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_INhaBXTOF4)
by Norikazu Miura (2006)
vs.
Suikoden � Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
My votes are for Exceeding Love and A Nap.
Derimu
04-11-2011, 07:19 PM
YouTube - Final Fantasy 7 Soundtrack - Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwySViP2lU4)
epicness
topopoz
04-12-2011, 12:40 AM
Gotta go with the Water!
Rising Tide
Two Rivers
EDIT: Spoony tells about Video Games Live
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2011/04/08/vlog-4-7-11-video-games-live/
aces4839
04-12-2011, 05:13 PM
Exceeding Love & A Nap
Link006
04-12-2011, 06:01 PM
Suikoden II, Suikoden.
arthurgolden
04-13-2011, 07:48 PM
We've got two ties to break this time around.
Smarty
04-13-2011, 08:52 PM
Rising Tide
Exceeding Love
Both quite easily.
arthurgolden
04-13-2011, 09:34 PM
Thanks to Smarty for the tie-break! That means Exceeding Love (3-2) and Rising Tide (3-2) are on their way to the quarterfinals. Next up�
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 3
Suikoden Tactics � Once Upon a Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me1FyhP2PXo)
by Norikazu Miura (2005)
vs.
Suikoden II � Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 4
Suikoden V � Sealed Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6L6DJKnPFE)
by Norikazu Miura (2006)
vs.
Suikoden II � Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
My votes are for Gothic Neclord and Sealed Room.
topopoz
04-14-2011, 01:11 PM
Once upon a Time - Gothic Neclord is a classic of the series plus the character Neclord itself is badass. But there's something about this song that captivates me.
Imprisoned Town
Smarty
04-14-2011, 01:37 PM
Gothic Neclord
Imprisoned Town
Anybody excited to hear the Portal 2 soundtrack? I know I am. The game is coming out pretty soon too.
aces4839
04-14-2011, 05:13 PM
Gothic Neclord
Imprisoned Town
Anybody excited to hear the Portal 2 soundtrack? I know I am. The game is coming out pretty soon too.
next tuesday with Mortal Kombat & SOCOM 4.
Link006
04-15-2011, 01:47 AM
Suikoden II and... Suikoden II.
Not sure if I'm getting Portal 2 yet right when it comes out. I waited over a year before I got Portal for free so I don't know if I have to have the sequel on the first day.
arthurgolden
04-15-2011, 07:55 PM
EDIT: Spoony tells about Video Games Live
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2011/04/08/vlog-4-7-11-video-games-live/
I finally got a chance to watch this. When I saw Video Games Live, the house was packed--I mean, with people stuck outside who couldn't get tickets. It was a circus, with all age groups represented. So it's interesting that the turn-out for his show was so different.
It was also interesting to hear how similar the set was. Tallarico talked about how often they change the music at my show, too, but from Spoony's description every little detail was the same--all the way to the failed Guitar Hero Aerosmith moment. It also confirmed for me that the cellist who head-bangs during "One-Winged Angel" is a plant. I'd never seen him before in our local orchestra and haven't seen him since.
Funny that Spoony was so gaga over Flute Link. She's good, but uhhhhh not the kind of performer that makes you want to give up trying, as he put it. I get the impression his musical background hasn't included a lot of orchestra music. :-\
Still, I agree wholeheartedly that the show is worth seeing if you get the chance. As over the top as it is, with all of Tallarico's ridiculous theatrics, I got really into it. When they turned down the lights and started the Mega Man medley, I actually jumped up and clapped. Even my wife, who has zero interest in vgm, said she thought it was fantastic.
Anybody excited to hear the Portal 2 soundtrack?
Definitely. But I'm more interested to hear more of...
Mortal Kombat
I've heard a little. Some of it's good, and some of it's really bad. So I want to see which impression is closer to the truth.
arthurgolden
04-16-2011, 02:48 AM
Gothic Neclord (4-1) and Imprisoned Town (4-1) are the newest winners. Next up...
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 5
Suikoden � Beautiful Golden City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCME4Wxvj4k&feature=PlayList&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD&index=4)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
vs.
Suikoden IV � La Mer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7evTrULxk)
by Masahiko Kimura, Michiru Yamane, and Norikazu Miura (2004)
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 6
Suikoden V � Crossing the Mountain River (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E2CX0rOvhs)
by Norikazu Miura (2006)
vs.
Suikoden � Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk&feature=PlayList&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD&index=38)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
My votes are for Beautiful Golden City and Forgotten Days.
Smarty
04-16-2011, 06:18 AM
La Mer
Forgotten Days
La Mer is actually my favorite piece of music from the series. At least from the ones included in the rumble.
aces4839
04-16-2011, 05:21 PM
La Mer & Crossing The Mountain River
topopoz
04-16-2011, 05:58 PM
La Mer
Forgotten Days
I love La Mer too. The mixture of ethnic styles is just simply brilliant. Not very Suikoden but still, I admire the composition.
Link006
04-16-2011, 10:20 PM
Suikoden IV and Suikoden.
arthurgolden
04-18-2011, 12:59 AM
Easy wins for both La Mer (4-1) and Forgotten Days (4-1). Next up, the final fights of Round 2…
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 7
Suikoden V – Town on a River (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FBQoL9bsZg)
by Norikazu Miura (2006)
vs.
Suikoden – Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Round 2, Fight 8
Suikoden – Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
vs.
Suikoden V – The Deep Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOeF14fo03A)
by Norikazu Miura (2006)
My votes are for two of my favorite tracks from the entire series: Eternal Flow and Distant Mountain. The first time I played Suikoden, at some point while I was in Seika, I stopped and realized just how awesome the music was. That was a big part of what made me fall in love with the series.
Smarty
04-18-2011, 09:31 AM
Eternal Flow
The Deep Forest
topopoz
04-18-2011, 02:44 PM
Eternal Flow
Distant Mountain
aces4839
04-18-2011, 05:12 PM
Town On A River & The Deep Forest
Link006
04-19-2011, 04:56 AM
Suikoden V and Suikoden.
arthurgolden
04-20-2011, 01:21 AM
Eternal Flow (3-2) and Distant Mountain (3-2) are the last two into the quarterfinals. And that brings us to�
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Quarterfinals, Fight 1
Suikoden � Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
vs.
Suikoden II � Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Quarterfinals, Fight 2
Suikoden � Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
vs.
Suikoden II � Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
I'm sticking with the same soundtrack: Rising Tide and Eternal Flow. :D
topopoz
04-20-2011, 01:38 AM
Rising Tide
Imprisoned Town
Smarty
04-20-2011, 11:59 AM
Gothic Neclord
Imprisoned Town
Link006
04-20-2011, 03:53 PM
Suikoden II and.... Suikoden II.
Szczepan
04-21-2011, 03:03 PM
Oh man... I've missed a lot, didn't I? At least it's not over yet :D
Rising Tide
Imprisoned Town
topopoz
04-21-2011, 04:15 PM
Oh man... I've missed a lot, didn't I? At least it's not over yet :D
WEEEELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arthurgolden
04-21-2011, 05:03 PM
Hooray!
YouTube - Peaches & Herb - Reunited (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOhm7qS-AI#t=01m04s)
Welcome back. :D
Szczepan
04-22-2011, 07:35 PM
Really, thanks guys! :'D
arthurgolden
04-22-2011, 08:44 PM
Rising Tide (3-2) and Imprisoned Town (4-1) are moving on to the semifinals. And now…
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Quarterfinals, Fight 3
Suikoden – Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
vs.
Suikoden III – Exceeding Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs)
by Michiru Yamane, Takashi Yoshida, and Masahiko Kimura (2002)
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Quarterfinals, Fight 4
Suikoden IV – La Mer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7evTrULxk)
by Masahiko Kimura, Michiru Yamane, and Norikazu Miura (2004)
vs.
Suikoden – Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk&feature=PlayList&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD&index=38)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
Hmm...My votes are for Exceeding Love and Forgotten Days.
Link006
04-23-2011, 01:21 AM
Suikoden and ... Suikoden.
topopoz
04-23-2011, 02:16 AM
Distant Mountain
La Mer
aces4839
04-23-2011, 04:51 AM
Exceeding Love & La Mer
Smarty
04-23-2011, 08:51 AM
Distant Mountain
La Mer
Szczepan
04-23-2011, 02:07 PM
Exceeding Love
Extremely tough choice here, as I love Distant Mountain equally... I hate choosing between these two;P
Forgotten Days
Eshvoide
04-23-2011, 11:12 PM
Exceeding Love & Forgotten Days
Whoa I miss this thread ._.
arthurgolden
04-24-2011, 12:10 AM
Eshvoide!
Alice Cooper - He's Back (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbT8n_ay4fM#t=01m08s)
This is an awesome trend over the last two days :D
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Extremely tough choice here, as I love Distant Mountain equally... I hate choosing between these two;P
x2
I changed my vote to EL at the last second because it had the difficult task of introducing fans to the third game while trying to live up to the first two soundtracks, and I think it did that pretty well. But DM is a sentimental favorite.
Szczepan
04-24-2011, 02:01 AM
x2
I changed my vote to EL at the last second because it had the difficult task of introducing fans to the third game while trying to live up to the first two soundtracks, and I think it did that pretty well. But DM is a sentimental favorite.
Feeling the same about DM, but EL vocal invaded my head and didn't want to leave O_O Had to appease the voices xD
Whoa I miss this thread ._.
Yep, I know what you mean. Welcome back Eshvoide:D
Eshvoide
04-25-2011, 07:49 PM
I could never find the lyrics for Exceeding Love...
Everytime I heard of this song, I was always thinking of some African tribal songs. How everyone had to somehow band together to fight a common enemy... for some reason, I could feel like the power of bitter rivalries, the sadness of lost loved ones, and other things...
arthurgolden
04-27-2011, 05:54 AM
Sorry for the delay. I'm working on fleshing out the presentation for the semifinals.
In the meantime, a speed run (
http://speeddemosarchive.com/IWannaBeTheGuy.html) of I Wanna Be the Guy: The Movie: The Game was just posted and reminded me of how many classic vgm tunes (many of which appeared in our NES rumble) are in that game.
Also, a close friend of mine told me I had to read Extra Lives: Why Video Games Matter (
http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Lives-Video-Games-Matter/dp/0307378705) immediately. This is someone who is very mild-mannered and never overstates anything, and he said I should order this book tonight. I'll report back when I've got it, but has anyone else read it?
@Eshvoide: Some time ago I tried to find them, too, and read that they're in a made-up language. I just checked and that seems to still be the dominant theory.
aces4839
04-27-2011, 11:50 PM
i never believed there were any real lyrics for that song, anyway.
arthurgolden
04-28-2011, 10:07 PM
Sorry for the delay. Exceeding Love (4-3) and Forgotten Days (4-3) won the last round. And that brings us to...
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Semifinals, Fight 1
Suikoden � Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
One of the greatest burdens in composing for video games is diversifying the tracks so that a new location can be introduced with immediate, definable characteristics, setting it apart from the other locations in the game. In an RPG, where there are a lot of locations and the size of the world map demands the distant cities to have distinct cultures, that task can become enormous. Yet Higashino never disappointed. While she was not the first to use environmental, diegetic sounds within the musical track (Jeremy Soule was with his Secret of Evermore soundtrack), she was as clever (if not more so) in knowing when and how to deploy them. Within a few seconds of this track�s start, you hear waves crashing, a bird call, a bell, and a warm synth patch, allowing you to immediately know you�re dealing with a peaceful, safe fishing village.
vs.
Suikoden II � Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
That makes for an easy comparison with this theme: a claustrophobic arpeggio performed by a sluggish, low-pitched organ. That makes sense with the title. But once you get into the second section, the flutes add an aristocratic, Old World tilt to the song that suggests the town's academic background and wealth, and even the architecture. That's hard to do.
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The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Semifinals, Fight 2
Suikoden � Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
When this song plays in the game, the main characters have just traveled back in time. Higashino again uses a flute, but to much different effect. Here, the melody is drawn-out with little ascensions at the end of each phrase. Is it too much of a stretch to say that such a gesture suggests things opening up, more information becoming available, the landscape of the story widening? Maybe. But all of those things are true for the scene that follows. Certainly, the tension from the length of the held notes, along with the bird calls and warm synths backing up the melody, suggests that something complex and important is about to happen.
vs.
Suikoden III � Exceeding Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs)
by Michiru Yamane, Takashi Yoshida, and Masahiko Kimura (2002)
Finally, we end up on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Whereas "Forgotten Days" is quiet, spare, and pretty, "Exceeding Love" is bombastic, multi-layered, multi-part, and stirring. It's reminiscent, too, of the music from Civilization and that game's pan-cultural flair. But this tune's use of snare drums also gives it a militaristic feel that's appropriate for the game. This was the new sound of Suikoden, once Higashino left.
My votes are for Rising Tide and Exceeding Love.
topopoz
04-28-2011, 11:00 PM
Rising Tide
Forgotten Days
aces4839
04-29-2011, 01:02 AM
no vote for the first one & Exceeding Love
Szczepan
04-29-2011, 02:48 PM
Imprisoned Town
Forgotten Days
Smarty
04-29-2011, 02:52 PM
Imprisoned Town
Forgotten Days
arthurgolden
04-30-2011, 08:29 PM
Let's give this another day to see if we can get more votes.
arthurgolden
05-01-2011, 09:24 PM
We've got a tie between Rising Tide and Imprisoned town. Anyone want to break it?
superangelo128
05-03-2011, 04:05 AM
both songs in the first match are kinda forgettable to me but:
Imprisoned Town is a bit better
Forgotten Days because lmao Exceeding Love but both are unremarkable to me
by the way I actually have played all 5 Suikoden games
arthurgolden
05-03-2011, 04:41 AM
Thanks to superangelo128 for the tie-break! Final round coming soon.
arthurgolden
05-03-2011, 07:10 AM
Suikoden vs. Suikoden II. My two favorite games from the series and my two favorite soundtracks from the series. This will be difficult. Both are fairly comparable, laid-back tunes, compared to the more well-known Suikoden themes. A very interesting choice for the finals. I’m excited to see who wins. :D
The Suikoden Songs Rumble
Final Round
Suikoden – Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk)
by Miki Higashino, Tappi Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
vs.
Suikoden II – Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
My vote is for Forgotten Days.
Smarty
05-03-2011, 12:06 PM
Imprisoned Town
Szczepan
05-03-2011, 12:18 PM
Imprisoned Town
Can listen to both all the time and still love them, but this one has something special in it:)
btw The arrangements of this song are really nice too.
topopoz
05-03-2011, 12:54 PM
Imprisoned Town
Rising Tide =(
Link006
05-03-2011, 07:49 PM
I'm glad to see that both of these tracks made it to the finals. A brutally difficult decision; probably the toughest I've had to make in a final.
Suikoden.
Smarty
05-09-2011, 10:14 AM
Hey, it's been almost a week... I don't think there's anyone else who hasn't voted that's gonna vote now. How about we close and call the winner?
arthurgolden
05-09-2011, 06:15 PM
I got a request via PM to keep it open one week. Doesn't look like that person is going to participate, but I'll still keep my word and wait until tomorrow.
arthurgolden
05-10-2011, 07:05 PM
And the winner of the Suikoden battle is�
Suikoden II � Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)!
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
A great choice to represent the Suikoden series, this theme is driven by a claustrophobic arpeggio performed by a sluggish, low-pitched organ. Both of those choices make sense with the title and with what�s going on in the game at the time it plays. But once you get into the second section, the flutes add an aristocratic, Old World tilt to the song that also suggests Greenhill�s academic background and wealth and even its architecture. Consequently, this is an example of Higashino�s ability to characterize a fictional culture with just a few notes�something that is both admirable and difficult to accomplish.
Record: 3-2, 4-1, 4-1, 3-2, 3-2
Well, that was another great battle. Thanks to all of you who voted! I hope you enjoyed it.
Just a reminder: if you have an idea for a theme that you�d like to do, post it on our group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20), where you can also see and make suggestions on the themes we�ve already worked on.
Bonus pictures:
http://www.sysabend.org/champions/mirrors/serena/suikoden4.jpe

arthurgolden
05-11-2011, 05:50 AM
What do you all want to do next? On the group page, we've got threads for the PS2, PS1, Hitoshi Sakimoto, Zelda, Final Fantasy, and a composers rumble.
Smarty
05-11-2011, 07:44 AM
topopoz
05-11-2011, 12:56 PM
PS1 ; Sakimoto ; Composers
arthurgolden
05-12-2011, 05:24 AM
Off topic, but worth checking out: James Rolfe & friends eat every pizza (
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/05/michelangelo_pizza_taste_test.html) described in the original TMNT cartoon series.
@Smarty: Thanks for the links! I'm going to check those out as soon as exam week is over. :-\
aces4839
05-12-2011, 05:28 PM
PS1 & PS2
Szczepan
05-14-2011, 11:26 PM
Either PS1 or Sakimoto
Smarty
05-15-2011, 01:05 PM
This is completely off-topic, but did anyone watch Eurovision this year? I found it entertaining, I'd like to see what you guys think.
arthurgolden
05-15-2011, 06:44 PM
I didn't even know it was happening right now. :-\ Despite being internationally famous, it's not broadcast on American television or even mentioned in our news. Instead, this (
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2011/05/12/moos.let.him.go.to.prom.cnn?hpt=T2) was the top news story yesterday.
Smarty
05-15-2011, 06:58 PM
...Some very interesting news right there... I guess it's called Eurovision for a reason.
Well, I watched the whole thing, semi finals and finals included. It's easily the best year the contest has had since 2007 (which was the best Eurovision year EVER), imo. I can share more details via PM if you want :D
Also, search Youtube to find a channel called EurovisionHouse. It has all live videos from the finals and semi finals as well as the voting.
Link006
05-16-2011, 12:23 AM
Hey, the forums are back... happy day.
Unfortunately, I don't really have a horse in the race. I'd rather do the one that is the shortest or the one that has been in the pipe the longest.
Eshvoide
05-16-2011, 03:01 AM
Bleah I missed a lot -.-
arthurgolden
05-16-2011, 04:53 AM
The shortest one would be Sakimoto--with 16 soundtracks. The one that's been around the longest is PS2.
So far, the voting looks like this...
3 votes for PS1
2 votes for PS2
2 votes for Sakimoto
1 vote for Composers
P.S. @Eshvoide, still glad to have you back. :D
arthurgolden
05-18-2011, 08:20 PM
So PS1 is a go. Do you all want to do that exclusively? Or do you want to pair it with PS2 or Sakimoto?
topopoz
05-18-2011, 08:31 PM
Since it would a long one, I say exclusive.
Smarty
05-18-2011, 08:53 PM
Pair it with PS2. In about a month, that rumble will officially have been in the waiting for a year.
Link006
05-19-2011, 01:23 AM
Bleck; A double PlayStation rumble would be the Sony hater's nightmare (that would be this guy by the way). Not saying you shouldn't do it, just saying I hate the PlayStation. : )
arthurgolden
05-20-2011, 08:08 AM
Two things as I get stuff together.
1) If you have suggestions for the PS1 rumble (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/groups/vgm-rumble-group-procrastination-station/best-ps1-97/), they would be most appreciated. We only have 10 soundtracks left that need recommendations, all of which I've listened to in the past but not recently. We still need 5 song recommendations for...
Front Mission 2
Front Mission 3
Gran Turismo
Gran Turismo 2
Persona
Persona 2
Spyro
Spyro 2
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2
2) Here are the Top 50 Worst Video Game Voices (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_bx_9QYt7k).
Link006
05-21-2011, 07:54 AM
Those were pretty hilarious! The #7 guy is actually pretty good I think. I believe it is Paul Eiding, likely best known for his work as the Overmind in StarCraft and StarCraft II. He was also the Warrior and Narrator in Diablo and Aldaris in StarCraft.
arthurgolden
05-22-2011, 11:02 AM
Good ear. That's definitely him, though I never would have noticed that. He's also the voice of Roy Campbell, who's a major character in the Metal Gear series.

Link006
05-22-2011, 04:44 PM
He has quite an illustrious resume; good voice actor... bad line.
I hope we'll hear from him again in Diablo III.
Smarty
05-22-2011, 06:07 PM
I still remember hearing his magic voice when I booted up Diablo for the first time when I was a kid. Stuff like that sticks with you. And I would never forget Aldaris either. Had no idea he was the Overmind too, though. Go figure.
arthurgolden
05-23-2011, 06:49 AM
On the flip side of things, here's (
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/best-voice-acting-in-video/236515) a list (and another (
http://www.examiner.com/game-in-minneapolis/ten-of-the-best-video-game-voice-actors)) of the best voice actors in video games. The second link has more overlap with games I've played. Jennifer Hale and Cam Clarke are the two biggies on there.
Also, I'm now done adding song recommendations to the PS1 soundtracks list. Update coming soon.
arthurgolden
05-23-2011, 08:42 AM
Time to finalize the song selections. :D
Please skim the list for your favorite games and make sure your favorite song is on there. It’s more helpful if you can tell me which song your recommendation should replace, too. I’ve been working on this list for three months, and it’s the most labor-intensive list we’ve had for a rumble by a large, large margin. I think I would die of a heart attack if I knew how many hours I’ve put into this. But I’m happy to accommodate last minute suggestions. The goal here is to avoid having people feel cheated at the end of the rumble, saying, “If ___ song was listed as a recommendation, then my soundtrack would have won.” Here’s your opportunity to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Also, even if you’re not familiar with PS1 soundtracks, please click around. You’re going to hear some awesome music that should get you excited for what’s to come. Not only were the songs chosen for a purpose, but the sequence of the songs was considered as well. With each soundtrack, I wanted to represent the quality and diversity as best as possible.
Finally, the links should all work. But if you find one that died, please let me know.
We’ll start soon.
Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere - Shattered Stones (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4n2GhLiEl0), Physical Layer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6to8JCURvVE), Transparent Blue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QZwEAKuIAw), The Crew (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOqlG0S8to), Analogue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEXYUTdLUBU)
Brave Fencer Musashi - Forest of Sleep (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-R5fRkghFU&p=60E25445A0C657E9), The Only Friend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd1aVl8QTSU), Impoverished Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-aiSnlPs8k&p=60E25445A0C657E9), The House of Hidden Treasure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE944hjg5a8&p=60E25445A0C657E9), Far into the Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDD5RhpYHBc&p=60E25445A0C657E9)
Breath of Fire III - These Little Things (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXzFubnyGGY&p=1779F6882E5AF292), Fight! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voq-TVM3X9A&p=1779F6882E5AF292), Life's a Beach (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QSdhP_h0ck&p=1779F6882E5AF292), For the Dragons (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6EJcQsa2XE&p=1779F6882E5AF292), Casually (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiqMhZfIy9s&p=1779F6882E5AF292)
Breath of Fire IV - Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0T8ACxq3o&p=914F955328C45FCE), The World Beneath Your Feet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-MJTU8JeZI&p=914F955328C45FCE), Yet the Merchants Will Go (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6RKoOqErWE&p=914F955328C45FCE), Prayer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcLMurlX8oI&p=914F955328C45FCE), A Raging Emperor's Banquet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noRxXKRDRsM&p=914F955328C45FCE)
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - Marble Gallery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4XIizeAXOA), Requiem for the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9MZyK-V79M), Abandoned Pit (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOq9bODf_UY&p=9C2427AFB919D8C2), Dance of the Pales (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ES2vTanMQ), Wood Carving Partita (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL0UoyFS7Ww&p=9C2427AFB919D8C2)
Chrono Cross - Time’s Scar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8), Star-Stealing Girl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoEMaWrQBQM), Ghost’s Island (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmvWxotH1I), Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLc1xnZPlvY), Garden of the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzrdbzKRFg)
Crash Bandicoot 2 - Eel Deal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ig-Hd8tczU), Road to Ruin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs8wiYfvP1g), Hang Eight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RCYAsOwh2o), Rock It (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsvHQCTgHvg), Tiny Boss Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thr1xb9bv8g)
Crash Bandicoot 3 - Dingodile Boss Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vxJ2XAKopE), Medieval Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBu20i2D0dk), Future Frenzy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQrO2UFNEo), Dr. N. Tropy Boss Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdO8jObarxI), Tomb Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvITxPHqNus)
Dragon Warrior VII - Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAXQFX22198), Echo of Horns Throughout the Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXIEL6K6Q8M), Relaxing Corner (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIv80pQVAtA), Revival Prayer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWC3wYUVP-U), Fighting Spirit (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6CkFsgAEwY)
Einhander - Badlands (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsGBhytk02s), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdiVVNoH0dE), Thermosphere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJbe7YXsLU), Dawn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWOGH2C11AE), Shudder (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGSuki0sKQU)
Final Fantasy VII - J-E-N-O-V-A (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6GrZYE2il0), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqKWLkm2-g), Cid's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E), A Secret Sleeping in the Deep Sea (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_5zD7rhwPo)
Final Fantasy VIII - Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Blue Fields (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQFiOq4VcRc), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Eyes on Me (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcW0oiLKHg), Maybe I'm a Lion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYDT_Y6Jj5c)
Final Fantasy IX - The Place I'll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW3QK6CTg2g), Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o), Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk), Iifa Tree (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Warw9qxJ70c), Crystal World (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8njetBuXIds)
Final Fantasy Tactics - Character Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS7-dPzRWg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Attack Team (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f-dPf6PSU&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
Front Mission 2 - Saribash's Warehouse (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuw5Dy9vuRs), Counter Bar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HM2dWFXdc), Assault (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaTM8Kg5AvA), Tension (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7_JhJuNgzM), Army Camp (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbCZF_wowls)
Front Mission 3 - Base Invasion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHf-qaFXR8c), Assault (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtprEvm28VU), Japan (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bthCmtPYFrc), Fort Invasion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBqYgiVhY-M), Swift Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6jm-RBa4ss)
Gauntlet Legends - 09 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrQpiEXxYQ&playnext=1&list=PLB639BFFED82B3FAC), 15 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QYe6OVw75I), 22 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em9jjUL-Wdg), 35 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqw4upG4uVc), 37 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6eWhPtR8G0&feature=BF&list=PLF81890ECA1563DAF&index=6)
Grandia - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Off Runs Sue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeqmPFt25s&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Dight Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4AQNNy0kI&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Palm Harbor (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7ej3Rk4XU&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Four Volley Rounds of Tension (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq-xmGNMAe0&p=E916D1BD136F6D58)
Gran Turismo - Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mOOy8tekaU), Race Preparations (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DJhnUgj2c8), Car Selection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3w9RbqgHZI), High (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QKYnHJ-dck), Arcade Mode (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlaA7K6wDE)
Gran Turismo 2 - Windroad (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqSQZxW9x0), The Real Motorious City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D_J8BGN4dI), The Drift of Air (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCY987VPsI), Soul of Garage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PfSPq4P0s), From the East (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJdU544NmyU)
Intelligent Qube - Stage 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGx8NUmsGj0), Stage 4 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H7qEx8p3Bs), Menu (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YnOa7ZOzsU), Almost Dead (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTALaa6zLA&p=8BBC95056A9DCB82), Stage 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmfa6kteGyI)
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile - The Rongo Longo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOnvUCA04xw&p=B29A1A5B1EBACF45), Count Three (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wllG0ECkCH0&p=B29A1A5B1EBACF45), Blue Cave Echo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTocPyV6Vw&p=B29A1A5B1EBACF45), The Closing Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v64adqW049w&p=B29A1A5B1EBACF45), Fry Over the Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpLaF8VTjFA&p=B29A1A5B1EBACF45)
Koudelka - Requiem (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdrgglBDTE0&playnext=1&list=PL7FF115E030A81D55), Waterfall (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eu_zij3Rz8&playnext=1&list=PL20FF2878C12F2B56), Ubi Caritas et Amor (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnZ4zq3lbKo), Incantation Again (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHlqledKmls&playnext=1&list=PL7FF115E030A81D55), Dead (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eVouDu6HTc)
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver - Kain Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKKJLTxRR2s), Melchiah's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Gzx5ipWRA), Underworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilH4y2zWDCE), Boss Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b101oYBtBHU), Ozar Midrashim (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwMDNKVVZoM)
The Legend of Dragoon - Title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CczTRFhlqhI), Royal Capitol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtSOr1FZC8), Uneasy State (”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCXvgMHEwcU"), Reminiscence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI5_MHdVU_c), Crystal Palace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2mDWLKKnGM)
Legend of Mana - Title Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBeMTXZ56XY&p=D2DBD4902CF76A45), World of Mana (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkSPMjSKAE&p=D2DBD4902CF76A45), Hometown Domina (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5kpd6Swmk&p=D2DBD4902CF76A45), Moonlit City Roa (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QopZDjvj5g&p=D2DBD4902CF76A45), Nostalgic Song ~ Ending Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgWeKfyP2Ys&p=D2DBD4902CF76A45)
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete - Mysterious Cave (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6s1-N-MzKU&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Silver Light (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqbAYEtiSG8&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Solitary Wolf (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfOL9XscTCg&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Burg (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPM6HT3RvN0&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Thieves' Bazaar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs-66MhP11o&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1)
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete - Footsteps of a Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvDi54VbBA), Promenade (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar6VnPcy5s0), Field to Tomorrow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgR1BBN4-XM), Lucia's Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIANYjU1Cc), The Last Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7mdhKSEER0)
MediEvil - Cemetery Hill (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rklq4KouCv0), Scarecrow Fields (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUli62z2sY), The Asylum Grounds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkhmnS5wvU), The Crystal Caves (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI69AzFkWSw), Return To The Graveyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gmZzhP4Uw)
Mega Man X5 - Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeKcgN5kxsU&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Duff McWhalen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBsmlGT0so&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Grizzly Slash (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPuibHZNeE&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), X vs. Zero (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eFI0UFfAJE&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Zero's Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjQ8I7PUKI&p=482C7792B9D2EF40)
Mega Man X6 - Opening Stage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL0Bt7AprJ8&p=26B3BE6455E2191E), Blaze Heatnix (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0yZtgyqHXM&p=26B3BE6455E2191E), Rainy Turtloid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KlIff4dEY&p=26B3BE6455E2191E), Commander Yammark (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYeWo_9v38g&p=26B3BE6455E2191E), Hi-MAX (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Y21jWpoO0&p=26B3BE6455E2191E)
Metal Gear Solid - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk), Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQRWJ7bIhs), Discovery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79a_5qM0h8), Mantis Hymn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMasLUmBzkc&p=DDD4AB6F3427F42F), The Best Is Yet to Come (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g&p=DDD4AB6F3427F42F)
Monster Rancher - Rank C Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmGspw7SJxo), Death of Monster (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG6Fli4BrgE), Funeral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbXx-EClMtg&feature=related), Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuzSfSi6398), Medley (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emN6Vj_KwsE)
Monster Rancher 2 - IMa (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfFPk1Uxqns&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Farm (Spring) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ChPtPVM6Y&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Farm (Winter) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkTGsuxDxo&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Training (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKpQL0YOq2U&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Big Four Tournament Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdlBRJo0Ew&p=30F512D6E65B7749)
Parappa the Rapper - Chop Chop Master Onion Rap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ3o3kQZWm8), Instructor Mooselini's Car Rap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoqllL8Vl6o), Bathroom Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEUiaO9KZQI), Cheap Cheap the Cooking Chicken Rap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6BtPs-KNk), Katty Kat and Sunny Funny Theme Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9JmL9w0YM)
Parasite Eve - Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGWa4Zm0YDA), Out of Phase (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13FRIepmD8), Arise Within You (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpbDDwWATuY), Theme of Aya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw6Z4I-BLzQ), Missing Perspective (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEzwWOgv5E)
Persona - Poem of Everybody's Soul (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4loSMvSUy5Q), Hypnos Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SWcck8Bk6k), Awakening Legend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbINMJuWBs), Sanitation Department (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzLR0bPmqM), Police Station Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM3GuSmlRyc)
Persona 2 - Nichirin-Maru (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHCB_f-Uioc), EX Final Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZThNAFYv3c), Baofu (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6r3WfZi304), Morimoto Hospital (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTCD7-Y5TkE), Shop (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIv6G9z-cEM)
Policenauts - 28 Years (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItrEBDC_1w), Innocence White (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpnIegkHRH4), Landfall (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnpJM7qNpeM), Theme from News Order (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXorT3DG6OY), Dear My Friend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ncv7Oox9k)
Rage Racer - Mathemabeat (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG1Jv43lfIU), Deep Drive (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs3slgsKQwA), Silverstream (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuTWw2olJmg), Lightning Luge (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLwsH8dPS0), Replay (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbDRzNSrQJU)
Resident Evil - Save Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzWOfaTYjdo), The Night Begins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi-Dz_t1AHM), Vacant Flat (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7OIfghQoiQ), The One Who Survives (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_OBrufV5g), Narrow and Close (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanrLbBThJE)
Resident Evil 2 - Raccoon City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_eEOEzs7E), The Front Hall (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7JECkVzuq0), Save Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPVrizQOma4), The Second Malformation of G (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckr77MjcHio), Escape from Laboratory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfByN8H8BgE)
Silent Hill - Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZQo_ZMeR8U), Dead End (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PXEgoqZ9mk&p=6A2D20CC67C2669E), Wings of Hell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFxA_JAcQQ&p=6A2D20CC67C2669E), Trinkets (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr53L9Bbay0&p=6A2D20CC67C2669E), Killing Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1XyDFM6Oc0)
Skullmonkeys - Little Bonus Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al0XOLM9FPw), Title Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CofPOEH8S-o), Hard Boiler Eggs (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6g_yCK-9Vk), Klogg Is Dead! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUmv8imdH0), She Reminded Me With Science (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngajEwTy2d4)
Soukaigi - Ancient Power (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-2H45WTaw&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Quake (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7nSb9evnQ&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtJJyDrNI6Q&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Labyrinth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khppDfAuLYM&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Broken Memory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5tQZtN7eSk&p=74A294E9C891A8C2)
Soul Edge - A Continental Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9HjyPkQbg), Bravely Folk Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AygV-L4P_7w), A Travel Diary (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Iq9dkolCw), The Edge of Soul (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYcqP1TWYOE), Moonlit Shadows (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqf8uYPbi0Q)
Spyro - Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOnak-ozjw), Ice Cavern (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCdXPNcvVJc), Dream Weaver's Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQSsB7dwhjg), Wizard Peak (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bd940BkxGY), Toasty (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4IbvdqyNcQ)
Spyro 2 - Idol Springs (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HD_7MuflM8), Gulp's Overlook (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYG_bV5q1Y), Hurricos (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdB5cykpYXY), Magma Cone (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQo_30iShow), Ripto's Arena (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm8845Ddz3s)
Star Ocean: The Second Story - The Venerable Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BJ1us2KxY&p=02269E339590713C), Mission to the Deep Space (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrJaZ2qx_Y&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), Breezy Afternoon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF080rAvxjc&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), The Ultimate Terror (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PnVekEXJfk&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), We Form in Crystals (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boRCmchdgP0&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D)
Suikoden - Beautiful Golden City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCME4Wxvj4k&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD), Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD), Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD), Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD), Tropical Bath (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsM4qvixObg&p=C198C746BE4AF8BD)
Suikoden II - Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4d2R9vEXQ), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSSEcgooY-I), Amid the Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80WuZ3I-YrQ), Two Rivers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJW7RvqW-bU), Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
Tales of Destiny - Tales Of Destiny (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlUfaxqEs7Q), Bare Its Fangs (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRNXpmZFELo), Despair (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufTVE4INN94), Rebel Against Destiny (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfItdq51gIQ), Dead Or Alive (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPDJC2VqPTE)
Tales of Eternia - Main Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nsV2bAVKZg), Ability Test (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcbpbA5D-o), Mintche (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqix3cD8BJ8), Mid Boss 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pOTt1_134g), Mt. Farlos (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE7QHgNCVRc)
Tekken 2 - Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVFnXKpiH5M), A Man of Artificiality (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08GfGfj9Xbs), Law's Stage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWC88QP5uf0), Almost Frozen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANQZXux67Bk), Emotionless Passion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksy2fYBbSpA)
Threads of Fate - To the Ultimate Relic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4jP-tlCaSw), Opening Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3SQ1hZQnU&playnext=1&list=PLA3E135EFD0E0E07B), Temple of Ghosts (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esT2-esRfnQ&p=61A710123F4E7435), The Bonds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67FkEWG6Do), Pass Through the Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNpQ_OiofJw&p=2A3BA6FCAC714B68)
Thunder Force V - Stage 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU), Stage 5 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU#t=01m56s), Stage 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU#t=04m10s), Stage 6 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU#t=05m45s), Ending (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlJkEYoeGJE#t=04m57s)
Tomb Raider - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ekipC2ANs), Thor Room Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STRpUI00_-E), Battle against Giant Mutant (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PoQ5SaigU), Colosseum Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQmWTorTsk), Natla's Mines (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrDOhBc52n8)
Treasures of the Deep - Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU00TZ27GF8), Bonaire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4B6kc_ifUg&feature=related), Puerto Rico Trench (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ES62nkJP_Y), Strait of Hormuz (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8M9vD6PGIc), Bermuda Triangle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAK_MIVdimw&playnext=1&list=PL288D36A80DD31E44)
UmJammer Lammy - Chop Chop Master Onion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g80j-bLoWGw#t=00m11s), Fire! Fire! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsbO_riTJos), Captain Fussenpepper (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtCL5pgevEM), Make it Sweet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZcDlhnDZ8Y), On Tuesday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9L9OzV4Pv0#t=00m50s)
Vagrant Story - Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
Valkyrie Profile - Take a Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prz9wXqTFHw), The Joke Of Truth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5XHMS2SIU), To a World Becoming Impure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXndzXFVvQs), The Unfinished Battle with God Syndrome (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfxfe0-PhQ), Epic Tale of a Holy Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g504AN2vtOg)
Wild Arms - Into the Wilderness (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbiEH5DMx78), The Prologue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtrcpBPORE), Courage (Dungeon) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZBb5ILh7HA), Funeral Procession (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=patYuwCJFJA), Town Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MQRL7xws7w)
Wild Arms 2 - Opening 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JfCYgxrQ_M), Resistance Line (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-RSzCqwWDo), Dungeon: Ruins Type 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhZ8lZJbtg), Battle Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0-wCKhhE4), Knight Blazer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V52h7nvOoO8)
Xenogears - Wings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlF6TV1im0), Shebat the Wind Is Calling (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nMHsFOEZmo), Knight of Fire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vtYBIod9ak), June Mermaid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYCmED_YDqs), Stage of Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEzW06O5kk4)
Smarty
05-23-2011, 12:16 PM
Question: Why isn't Tekken 3 on there? Its soundtrack is marginally better than 2's.
Recommendations:
I would like Wandering Ghosts (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JGNPE4ayw) to be added to the Symphony of the Night recommendations. It's easily one of my favorite on the soundtrack and would fit well with the rest of the recommendations. If you want to keep it 5 recommendations per game then I'd suggest removing Abandoned Pit, pretty forgettable really.
As for Silent Hill, I'd like to add 1 more track to the recommendations but I'm not sure which one should be removed to make room for it (I'm talking about Blood Tears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdkYRx63HM)). I'll leave this one up to you.
Moving on to Persona 2. I think a clarification should be added that we are talking about Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, which is basically the 2nd part of P2. The first part, Innocent Sin, was never released outside of Japan (the PSP remake might come to the west soon, but no word on that yet) and is also not in the rumble (even though it kind of should). Also, I'm extremely against the tracks chosen to represent it. If it were up to me they would look something like this: Map I (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw6-LkojX28), Maya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk702KGQsPI), Time Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGoZhnSNxF4), Kagyuu Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsArE6_lLA), Boss Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fee0GYSTebg)
And finally, in addition to the PS1 rumble are we going to do any others, or just focus on that one?
arthurgolden
05-23-2011, 07:36 PM
I added your song recommendations.
Tekken 3 wasn't nominated or brought up in the discussions. One person did step up to bat for Tekken 2, though. If you want, post 5 songs for Tekken 3 and we can have a discussion about one versus the other.
As for Persona 2, you're right that I only chose Eternal Punishment songs. Just like with Sonic 3 & Knuckles, though, the entry on the list stands for both games, which are considered part of one entity.
We are just going to focus on the PS1 rumble at the moment.
Smarty
05-23-2011, 07:56 PM
arthurgolden
05-24-2011, 06:08 AM
Switching Tekken 3 for Tekken 2 sounds good to me.
arthurgolden
05-25-2011, 05:40 PM
Our rumble has always placed as much importance on the process of finding a winner as it has on celebrating the actual winning song or soundtrack. It seems to me that the fun of the rumble is the fun of listening to and discussing those soundtracks as they come up in randomized, sometimes head-scratchingly silly head-to-head fights on the way to the finals. How do you decide which is better between Earthbound and Mega Man X when they�re going for completely different moods, using completely different genres of music, and both succeed? I don�t know. But I enjoy it. And that process has allowed us to cover a pretty substantial collection of music over the last two years (240 soundtracks, 192 songs).
Still, it feels like we�ve barely scratched the surface of what�s out there. I�ve especially had that thought while compiling the soundtracks for this rumble. It�s astonishing that we still haven�t even talked about Brave Fencer Musashi, Intelligent Qube, Klonoa, Legend of Dragoon, Medievil, Soukaigi, or Vagrant Story�all heavily lauded, sometimes controversial soundtracks that appear in discussions of video game music relative to its entire history.
It gets even more surprising when you consider how many major franchises we haven�t had a single entry from yet. Ace Combat, Crash Bandicoot, Grandia, Gran Turismo, Legacy of Kain, Lunar, Monster Rancher, Parappa, Persona, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Spyro, Tales of�, Tekken, Thunder Force, Tomb Raider, Valkyrie Profile, Wild Arms. Some of these series have been going for fifteen years, and we haven�t even mentioned them yet.
That all changes with the PlayStation Rumble.
It is my hope that there�s something here for everyone. We�ve got techno soundtracks, classic orchestral soundtracks, ambient soundtracks, jazz soundtracks, Indian music, baroque music, breakbeat, funk, country, rock, funny music, sad music, scary music, dissonant music, romantic music, and everything in between. If you click on the Looking for VGM Recommendations thread (
Thread 69378), tons of the links, at some point or another, connect back to the 64 soundtracks we�ve got going head to head here.
So why is the PlayStation 1 era so important for video game music? There are two reasons.
1) The popularity of the system brought the console�s music to a rapidly growing audience. The PlayStation was the first console to ship 100 million units, and from the beginning its launch addressed that new, larger audience with nearly every genre of game. From day one, you could play Battle Arena Toshinden, Doom, Warhawk, Air Combat, Philosoma, and Ridge Racer. The total catalog ballooned to nearly 8,000 titles by the end, collectively selling very close to 1 billion units. More people hearing the music from all of those games meant that more people�s opinions of video game music were shaped and influenced by this era.
2) On top of that, the technology behind the music took a big leap for this new audience. The history of console video game music before 1994 was a history of composers dealing with technological limitations. There were far fewer obstacles for composers now, due to the CD�s ability to faithfully represent live musical performance. This is not to say the PlayStation was the first console to use music files off a CD. Prior to the fifth generation, the Sega CD, Turbografx CD, and CD-i all existed, among others. However, those consoles were prohibitively expensive, low-selling, and poorly reviewed because of catalogs filled with shovelware and kusoge. Thus, the experience of real, recorded instruments within a console video game was limited to a very small group of gamers.
When you take into account both of these factors, then, you can see why the world of video game music began to shift with the PlayStation. Whether or not that shift represented something good for the music remains to be seen. There is still a lively debate over the quality of video game music, be it declining or not, with some detractors claiming the debate itself is silly when there are good soundtracks and bad soundtracks now, just as there were in the beginning. The widening opportunities for composers to complicate and experiment did mean that the emphasis was sometimes less about melody and more about all of the other aspects of the compositions. But not always. Plus, the presence of a melody is certainly not the only determining factor for a good piece of music. That debate isn't worth resurrecting here.
What is worth saying is just how interesting the world of video games was in the mid-nineties, particularly in regards to the music. Starting with the third generation of consoles, many video game composers aimed to elevate their products beyond a simple, cartoonish representation of human behavior into something more emotionally complex. The goal was to have a parent walk into a room and not see a child playing a child�s game, but to see a child immersed in something rapturous, tense, and fun. This endeavor took technical knowledge, sympathy for human error, and courageous imagination to succeed. With each soundtrack in this rumble, you will hear those moments of success.
Get excited. :D
arthurgolden
05-25-2011, 07:43 PM
Sorry for the delays. The PlayStation Soundtracks Rumble has finally begun...
Round 1, Fight 1

Chrono Cross by Yasunori Mitsuda (1999)
Time�s Scar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8), Star-Stealing Girl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoEMaWrQBQM), Ghost�s Island (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmvWxotH1I), Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLc1xnZPlvY), Garden of the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzrdbzKRFg)
vs.
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=97e6e33d3ba555b51b0c5ee4f6a21303&w=50&h=50&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia% 2Fen%2F3%2F3f%2FParasite_Eve_Coverart.png&crop Parasite Eve by Yoko Shimomura (1998)
Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGWa4Zm0YDA), Out of Phase (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13FRIepmD8), Arise Within You (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpbDDwWATuY), Theme of Aya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw6Z4I-BLzQ), Missing Perspective (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEzwWOgv5E)
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Round 1, Fight 2
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=723d9dfaa70c389d6b90370f58cfb2a7&w=50&h=50&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia% 2Fen%2F2%2F23%2FSoul_Edge_arcade_flyer.jpg&crop Soul Edge by Masumi Ito, Benten Maru, Yoshiyuki Ito, Aki Hata, Taku Iwasaki (1996)
A Continental Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9HjyPkQbg), Bravely Folk Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AygV-L4P_7w), A Travel Diary (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Iq9dkolCw), The Edge of Soul (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYcqP1TWYOE), Moonlit Shadows (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqf8uYPbi0Q)
vs.

Thunder Force V by Hyakutaro Tsukumo (1998)
Stage 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU), Stage 5 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU#t=01m56s), Stage 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU#t=04m10s), Stage 6 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUkJhIPLvqU#t=05m45s), Ending (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlJkEYoeGJE#t=04m57s)
My vote is for Chrono Cross and Soul Edge.
Smarty
05-26-2011, 05:24 AM
Oh come on Parasite Eve against Chrono Cross in the first round?! Such bad luck for PE...
Chrono Cross
Soul Edge
aces4839
05-26-2011, 05:37 AM
i agree, smarty.
Chrono Cross
Szczepan
05-27-2011, 12:26 AM
Oh come on Parasite Eve against Chrono Cross in the first round?! Such bad luck for PE...
Chrono Cross
Soul Edge
topopoz
05-27-2011, 12:33 AM
Fucking ridiculous... Oh well...
Parasite Eve
Soul Edge
arthurgolden
05-27-2011, 06:02 PM
Started May 27, 2009
Today is the rumble's second anniversary. Holy crap. Thank you all for your participation!
It sure hasn't felt like that long. I can still remember starting this rumble two years ago, during the week of my brother�s wedding. And tomorrow is my sister's wedding. There's a nice sense of circularity there.
For the first anniversary (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/official-video-game-music-rumble-66118/29.html#post1484405), I listed out what we'd already accomplished. Here's what we�ve done since then. The winners of the rumbles from this past year in order are...

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Metal Gear Solid � The Best Is Yet to Come (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g)
by Takanari Ishiyama, Gigi Meroni, Kazuki Muraoka, Lee Jeon Myung, Hiroyuki Togo, Maki Kirioka, Rika Muranaka, and Tappi Iwase (1998)
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Final Fantasy VI (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y6R4Luysnk&playnext=1&list=PL866653D8AD00A745)
by Nobuo Uematsu (1994)
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Chrono Cross (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8&playnext=1&list=PLD60FDA0E024BE41F)
by Yasunori Mitsuda (1999)
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Sonic the Hedgehog (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoV0wUxFA-g&playnext=1&list=PL43622D6769FCEDB1)
by Masato Nakamura (1991)
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Mega Man 3 � Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiQgYfyUdDs)
by Yasuaki Fujita (1990)
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Suikoden II � Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8)
by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
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PlayStation 1 soundtrack � TBD
by ???
Here's to many more!
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arthurgolden
05-27-2011, 10:10 PM
So Chrono Cross (4-1) and Soul Edge (4-0) are the first winners to move on. Next up�
Round 1, Fight 3

Wild Arms by Michiko Naruke (1996)
Into the Wilderness (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbiEH5DMx78), The Prologue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtrcpBPORE), Courage (Dungeon) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZBb5ILh7HA), Funeral Procession (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=patYuwCJFJA), Town Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MQRL7xws7w)
vs.

The Legend of Dragoon by Takeo Miratsu and Dennis Martin (1999)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CczTRFhlqhI), Royal Capitol (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtSOr1FZC8), Enemy Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lM02OP0KF8), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI5_MHdVU_c), Ruined Celes (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTlpKWXaKtM)
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Round 1, Fight 4

Final Fantasy IX by Nobuo Uematsu (2000)
The Place I'll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW3QK6CTg2g), Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o), Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk), The Darkness of Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSi6_hbpo8), Bran Bal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4mbIP4vbM)
vs.

Tales of Eternia by Motoi Sakuraba and Shinji Tamura (2000)
Main Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nsV2bAVKZg), Ability Test (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcbpbA5D-o), Mintche (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqix3cD8BJ8), Mid Boss 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pOTt1_134g), Mt. Farlos (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE7QHgNCVRc)
My votes are for Legend of Dragoon and Final Fantasy IX.
arthurgolden
05-30-2011, 05:18 AM
Back again. I've been doing wedding stuff ever since the above post, so I'm not sure when the forums went down. But it looks like it happened pretty much as soon as that last post went up. We'll give this fight two days like normal, which will allow me to contemplate if I'm really going to vote against Wild Arms.
Also, of general interest, Jessie just posted this (
Thread 90641) massive box set of music from EA games. I think some of you all will dig it. :D
P.S. If the forums go down some day, do you all have ideas about where we could still keep in touch? Are any of you all members of the FFShrine Facebook group?
Smarty
05-30-2011, 09:01 AM
There's a facebook group? I had no idea. Send me a link and I'll join. We could share e-mail adresses, too. I'd hate to lose contact with you guys if the forums were to ever permanently go down (and that might happen sooner rather than later). And back to the rumble:
The Legend of Dragoon
Final Fantasy IX
As much as I hate the game, I have no problem admitting that the soundtrack is one of Uematsu's best.
topopoz
05-30-2011, 01:05 PM
Wild Arms
Tales of Eternia - Most of the battle songs and tension related songs of FFIX are a boring chore, just like the battle system =D.
aces4839
05-30-2011, 05:24 PM
Final Fantasy IX
Szczepan
05-30-2011, 07:21 PM
Wild Arms - Funny, as I have beaten LoD, but haven't played WA.
Final Fantasy IX - I am a fan of Tales of series, but not really because of it's music... Choice is obvious.
Here's to many more!
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/EarlyMemphis/Smileys/BeerCheersSmiley.gif
http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/EarlyMemphis/Smileys/BeerCheersSmiley.gifindeed! For another many years of good rumbling:)
P.S. If the forums go down some day, do you all have ideas about where we could still keep in touch? Are any of you all members of the FFShrine Facebook group?
I am one of those stubborn people, who still refuse to make a facebook account;) I don't know how long, since even my mom has one @_@
topopoz
05-30-2011, 08:05 PM
Totally on topic.
This Guy made Hurry! of FFVII an interesting song. Check it out.
YouTube - ‪Mat Graham - Hurry! (Final Fantasy 7 Cover)‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhOhQdS19zk)
arthurgolden
05-31-2011, 07:24 AM
There's a facebook group? I had no idea. Send me a link and I'll join.
Here's the link: The FFShrine Facebook Group (
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_196693673702007)
Full disclosure: I haven't joined this group. When they first created it, someone was tagging people in various pictures of animals having sex. Even though the pictures were eventually removed, I'm Facebook friends with my employers (and others who I hope will employ me in the future) and can't have that stuff showing up in their feeds if someone decides to do it again. So I just have the link saved and check in from time to time to see if there's any news.
We could share e-mail adresses, too. I'd hate to lose contact with you guys if the forums were to ever permanently go down (and that might happen sooner rather than later).
I also wouldn't want to lose touch with anyone here. This seems like a good idea, especially for people who haven't joined Facebook (or for those, like me, who deactivate their accounts at times). I'll send a private message around to see if people are interested.
Most of the battle songs and tension related songs of FFIX are a boring chore, just like the battle system =D.
Hahaha. I forgot you had beef with FFIX.
Wild Arms - Funny, as I have beaten LoD, but haven't played WA.
That happens to me all the time. Hearing the music outside the game is a really good test to see if the songs are worth anything. I really thought Legend of Dragoon was middle of the road in every way when I played it, so I was surprised I liked the music so much more by itself.
This Guy made Hurry! of FFVII an interesting song. Check it out.
YouTube - ‪Mat Graham - Hurry! (Final Fantasy 7 Cover)‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhOhQdS19zk)
That was fucking awesome.
By the way, if you're wondering why links keep disappearing and why the "What's New?" button is giving crazy results, the explanation is here:
Thread 90702 The problem only occurs with the Timewarp skin, which is what I (and I think most others) use.
Also, when I was writing the PlayStation rumble introduction a week or so ago, I ran across this and forgot to post it: N-Sider.com: SNES-CD Profile (
http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=231). It's a short history of the planned Nintendo/Sony CD add-on for the SNES, which we probably all know about. But what's interesting is that it has pictures of the prototype that Sony developed with both an SNES cartridge port and a CD drive. I'd never actually seen an example of the console before. Pretty ugly and bulky, even for a prototype.
arthurgolden
05-31-2011, 10:19 PM
We've got a tie between Wild Arms and Legend of Dragoon. Anyone want to break it?
Link006
06-01-2011, 02:03 AM
Final Fantasy IX, The Legend of Dragoon.
arthurgolden
06-01-2011, 05:39 AM
Thanks to Link for the tie-break. That means The Legend of Dragoon (3-2) and Final Fantasy IX (5-1) are moving on. Next up�
Round 1, Fight 5

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver by Kurt Harland and Jim Hedges (1999)
Kain Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKKJLTxRR2s), Melchiah's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Gzx5ipWRA), Underworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilH4y2zWDCE), Drowned Abbey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qdHyw2fDg), Ozar Midrashim (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwMDNKVVZoM)
vs.

Suikoden by Miki Higashino, Tappy Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
Beautiful Golden City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCME4Wxvj4k ), Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE ), Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8 ), Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I), Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk)
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Round 1, Fight 6

Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete by Noriyuki Iwadare (1998)
Mysterious Cave (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6s1-N-MzKU&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Silver Light (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqbAYEtiSG8&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Solitary Wolf (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfOL9XscTCg&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Burg (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPM6HT3RvN0&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1), Thieves' Bazaar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs-66MhP11o&p=5F7FB3B46DD0D4F1)
vs.

Metal Gear Solid by Takanari Ishiyama, Gigi Meroni, Kazuki Muraoka, Lee Jeon Myung, Hiroyuki Togo, Maki Kirioka, Rika Muranaka, and Tappi Iwase (1998)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk), Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQRWJ7bIhs), Discovery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79a_5qM0h8), Mantis Hymn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMasLUmBzkc&p=DDD4AB6F3427F42F), The Best Is Yet to Come (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g&p=DDD4AB6F3427F42F)
My votes are for Suikoden and Metal Gear Solid.
Smarty
06-01-2011, 07:36 AM
Suikoden
Metal Gear Solid
Szczepan
06-01-2011, 03:54 PM
Suikoden
Metal Gear Solid
aces4839
06-01-2011, 05:16 PM
Suikoden
arthurgolden
06-01-2011, 10:55 PM
This one's almost a blow-out. One more vote for MGS.
On another note, you all probably noticed that I changed the look of the rumble once we started with PlayStation. What I didn't anticipate is that there would be so much chaos after the forums went down. Is everybody using the new Timewarp skin? Are you all having trouble seeing any of the links or the text or anything? Izanami is working on refining the new Timewarp, and I'm hoping the revised version isn't so dreary looking.
topopoz
06-01-2011, 11:25 PM
Soul Reaver
Metal Gear Solid
This was a hard one for me. But Eventually Suikoden will win. I voted Soul Reaver because I love that Soundtrack a lot. It's Aquatic and mystical sound is haunting.
Smarty
06-02-2011, 04:42 AM
Um, I've been visiting the site nearly everyday for a good while now, and everything seems fine to me. Experienced no problems.
arthurgolden
06-02-2011, 05:51 AM
Okay. Good. With all the problems with the Timewarp skin, I didn't know if people had switched to the New (Light) or Light (VB3) skins, which would make the yellowish text used for the soundtrack names nearly invisible.
aces4839
06-02-2011, 05:20 PM
i actually had black-colored text for awhile. had to change skins to get it back to normal.
arthurgolden
06-02-2011, 05:46 PM
Strange... Since I last posted, they've revised the new Timewarp to have white text again. And the links are visible. But a lot of other things are still subdued or glitchy. The two biggest things that bother me are that the page numbers for threads are dark blue on a black background, making them hard to read. And our profile pages are all kinds of messed up.
On another note, you all may have noticed that the Lunar YouTube videos have the Sega Saturn cover as the background image. I forgot to mention that those are most definitely the PlayStation versions of the songs, though. I guess the uploader was mistaken or got lazy. What's weirder is that RPGMusicDotOrg, another user and one that's usually attentive to detail, uploaded the Saturn version of the songs (example (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndmK97qwNZk)) with the PlayStation cover as the background image. Don't know what's going on.
If you did like the five samples and want to check out the rest of the Lunar soundtrack, search for Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete as opposed to Silver Star Story, which is the Saturn version. It's a good soundtrack. Too bad it had to go against Metal Gear Solid.
Link006
06-03-2011, 02:39 AM
Man these are like feeding a high school team to the Los Angeles Lakers; ugly; not even close.
Suikoden, Metal Gear Solid.
arthurgolden
06-03-2011, 04:39 AM
Hahahaha. Yeah, you right. Suikoden (5-1) and Metal Gear Solid (5-0) make it look easy. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 7

Crash Bandicoot 2 by Mark Mothersbaugh and Josh Mancell (1997)
Eel Deal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ig-Hd8tczU), Road to Ruin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs8wiYfvP1g), Hang Eight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RCYAsOwh2o), Rock It (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsvHQCTgHvg), Tiny Boss Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thr1xb9bv8g)
vs.

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
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Round 1, Fight 8
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/mmx6-small.gif Mega Man X6 by Naota Tanaka (2001)
Opening Stage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL0Bt7AprJ8), Blaze Heatnix (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0yZtgyqHXM), Rainy Turtloid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KlIff4dEY), Commander Yammark (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYeWo_9v38g), Hi-MAX (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Y21jWpoO0)
vs.

Koudelka by Hiroki Kikuta (1999)
Requiem (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdrgglBDTE0), Waterfall (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eu_zij3Rz8), Ubi Caritas et Amor (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnZ4zq3lbKo), Incantation Again (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHlqledKmls ), Dead (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eVouDu6HTc)
My votes are for Vagrant Story and Mega Man X6.
topopoz
06-03-2011, 04:42 AM
Vagrant Story - Nearly my all time fauvorite soundtrack
Mega Man X6
aces4839
06-03-2011, 05:15 PM
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
Smarty
06-03-2011, 06:05 PM
Nostalgia'd hard with Crash 2 soundtrack. But Vagrant Story is beter, I think. Some serious bad luck for some first round contestants.
Mega Man X6
arthurgolden
06-04-2011, 06:58 PM
There's an interesting back story to Koudelka that I forgot to mention, and I'm not sure how well-known it is.
Back in 1997, Hiroki Kikuta, Square's composer for Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu 3, was offered some money by SNK to break away from Square and start his own video game development company. Why SNK had this vision for Kikuta is difficult to know. Kikuta didn't act in any greater capacity than as composer for either Mana game, and he hadn't been in the business long, nor had he studied the business in college (he studied religion, philosophy, and cultural anthropology). So he wasn't what you'd consider a prime candidate for a video game developer. He had gained a reputation on par with Jeremy Soule, Yasunori Mitsuda, Yoko Shimomura, and David Wise at the time. In other words, he was a rising star in video game composition, and no doubt had his pick of projects to score. But where the shared ambition for directing and producing came from, I don't know. I'm sure we all know people who have been given responsibilities that exceed their talents.
Regardless, he got the opportunity. Sacnoth was formed (named after a weapon in a Lord Dunsany short story). And Koudelka was the first game they produced. However, during the game's development, there had been serious in-fighting about how the battle system was going to work. Kikuta wanted a Resident Evil clone. His staff were willing to give him a survival horror game if they could implement a turn-based battle system close to what they'd done while working for Square on the Final Fantasy games. Kikuta put his foot down and said it was out of the question. Eventually, the development team won, and the game was given turn-based fights. But if you play Koudelka, you can see the game design concepts at war with one another.
That's only reinforced by the jerkiness of the musical transitions. We can't necessarily recreate the gameplay experience here with a song list, but the gist is that you spend a lot of the game walking around with very quiet, ambient, spooky music, as you'd expect in a Resident Evil game. Then, all of a sudden, the screen swirls from an encounter with an invisible enemy (like in an RPG) and the ambient, dark music cuts to this (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eu_zij3Rz8). I'd imagine the extended percussion intro was used to try to soften that switch, but nevertheless the mood of the game was undercut over and over because of that mistake. Gamers complained, as did the critics. And Koudelka became a flop, despite its many redeeming qualities.
Thus, this soundtrack is an interesting case for us, because the in-game execution of the music is quite bad. But our job is to judge the quality of the music on its own merits first. Only if we've played the game can we secondarily judge its appropriateness. With those criteria in mind, I honestly like Koudelka's music. I'm just not that interested in the game it came from. It did also have some historical importance, because Kikuta resigned, SNK folded, Aruze Entertainment bought Sacnoth and changed the name to Nautilus, and then used their favorite parts of Koudelka to create the Shadow Hearts series, which has been much more successful. As for Kikuta, he went on to form his own record label, on which he has released several CDs. But failed, high-profile projects have plagued him since Koudelka, and he has certainly lost the prestige he had in the mid-nineties as a part of the generation of composers to follow in Kondo and Uematsu's footsteps.
arthurgolden
06-05-2011, 02:39 AM
Not much of a contest for Vagrant Story (3-1) or Mega Man X6 (3-0) either. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 9

Legend of Mana by Yoko Shimomura (1999)
Title Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBeMTXZ56XY ), World of Mana (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkSPMjSKAE ), Hometown Domina (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5kpd6Swmk ), Moonlit City Roa (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QopZDjvj5g ), Nostalgic Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgWeKfyP2Ys )
vs.

Dragon Warrior VII by Koichi Sugiyama (2000)
Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAXQFX22198), Echo of Horns (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXIEL6K6Q8M), Relaxing Corner (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIv80pQVAtA), Revival Prayer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWC3wYUVP-U), Fighting Spirit (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6CkFsgAEwY)
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Round 1, Fight 10

Tales of Destiny by Motoi Sakuraba and Shinji Tamura (1997)
Tales Of Destiny (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlUfaxqEs7Q), Bare Its Fangs (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRNXpmZFELo), Despair (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufTVE4INN94), Rebel Against Destiny (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfItdq51gIQ), Dead Or Alive (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPDJC2VqPTE)
vs.

Final Fantasy VII by Nobuo Uematsu (1997)
Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxKxCz9M4s), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxfCWaXYIo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqKWLkm2-g), Cid's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E)
My votes are for Legend of Mana and Final Fantasy VII. Huge difference in the synths quality between Legend of Mana and Dragon Warrior VII. Both composers are top-tier with solid offerings, so it came down to presentation for me. For the other fight, you've got poor Tales of Destiny. It's a good soundtrack that just got a bad match-up.
topopoz
06-05-2011, 03:59 AM
Legend Of Mana
Final Fantasy VII
Both games are quite fond to me.
aces4839
06-05-2011, 04:00 AM
Final Fantasy VII
Smarty
06-05-2011, 10:52 AM
Legend Of Mana
Final Fantasy VII
Szczepan
06-05-2011, 01:16 PM
Legend Of Mana - my favorite soundtrack by Shimomura, but DQVII music stands out too when listening to it's symphonic suite:)
Final Fantasy VII
btw Missed last fight... Anyway, I'm glad that Vagrant Story won:)
arthurgolden
06-05-2011, 03:13 PM
Link006
06-05-2011, 08:08 PM
Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy VII
---------- Post added at 02:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:58 PM ----------
Came across another list: The 50 most annoying video game characters (
http://www.complex.com/video-games/2011/05/50-most-annoying-characters-in-video-games#51)
This list is a travesty; Tingle should be at the top of every annoying character list.
Legend Of Mana
Final Fantasy VII
arthurgolden
06-08-2011, 03:43 AM
Welcome back OSFM. :D Two blow-outs this time around: Legend of Mana (6-0) and Final Fantasy VII (7-0). Next up…
Round 1, Fight 11

Policenauts by Motoaki Furukawa, Tappi Iwase, and Masahiro Ikariko (1996)
28 Years (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItrEBDC_1w), Innocence White (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpnIegkHRH4), BCP HQ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBPeRbL9p2M), Theme from News Order (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXorT3DG6OY), Dear My Friend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ncv7Oox9k)
vs.

Resident Evil by Makoto Tomozawa, Akari Kaida, and Masami Ueda (1996)
Save Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzWOfaTYjdo), The Night Begins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi-Dz_t1AHM), Vacant Flat (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7OIfghQoiQ), The One Who Survives (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_OBrufV5g), Narrow and Close (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanrLbBThJE)
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Round 1, Fight 12

Breath of Fire IV by Yoshino Aoki (2000)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0T8ACxq3o), Overworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-MJTU8JeZI), Yet the Merchants Will Go (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6RKoOqErWE), Prayer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcLMurlX8oI), A Raging Emperor's Banquet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noRxXKRDRsM)
vs.

Monster Rancher by Takuya Hanaoka, Takashi Kanai, Shiekiyo Okuda, and Makoto Hosoi (1997)
Rank C Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmGspw7SJxo), Death of Monster (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG6Fli4BrgE), Funeral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbXx-EClMtg ), Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuzSfSi6398), Farm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emN6Vj_KwsE)
My votes are for Resident Evil and Breath of Fire IV. Both Policenauts and Resident Evil have surprisingly beautiful moments in their soundtracks, which makes a decision between the two difficult. But in my mind "Narrow and Close" is an iconic piece that gives RE the edge. Monster Rancher's soundtrack is a lot of fun but pretty limited in scope. And it's a bitch to find clips of the music on YouTube. There's almost nothing available. Apologies for the meager selection there. It's worth checking out the whole soundtrack if you can find it. I'm going with BOF4 for its diversity.
Smarty
06-08-2011, 10:48 AM
Policenauts
Breath of Fire IV
arthurgolden
06-09-2011, 06:44 PM
I'm going to keep this open for a couple more days.
In the meantime, there have been big updates on the group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/groups/vgm-rumble-group-procrastination-station/). Check it out and add your thoughts.
Also, here's an interesting article on 6 glitches that accidentally invented modern gaming (
http://www.cracked.com/article_19262_6-glitches-that-accidentally-invented-modern-gaming.html).
topopoz
06-09-2011, 08:31 PM
I'm currently at work. If I have some more free time later I'll make the votes ;)
topopoz
06-10-2011, 12:00 AM
Policenauts
Monster Rancher - A suprisingly elaborated soundtrack I have to say.
Link006
06-10-2011, 12:59 AM
Resident Evil, Monster Rancher
arthurgolden
06-11-2011, 07:20 AM
We've got a 2-2 tie in both fights. Let's get at least one more vote to break them.
Szczepan
06-11-2011, 01:45 PM
Breath of Fire IV - Monster Rancher is a nice soundtrack, but for me there is no contest here. BoFIV has a lot of other great tracks that were not linked here. To just name a few : How Long Will The Rain Last (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbFv8J-M5JI&feature=related), Landscape (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q23HiK0h1yQ&feature=related), Men Of War (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSar3hbE_E&feature=related), Like the Sun, Like the Moon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8U_Sb6NMs4).
Resident Evil was a much tougher choice...
arthurgolden
06-11-2011, 07:00 PM
Thanks to Szczepan for the tie-break and recommendations! That means Resident Evil (3-2) and Breath of Fire IV (3-2) are moving on. Next up…
Round 1, Fight 13

UmJammer Lammy by Masaya Matsuura, Shige Kawagoe, Yoshihisa Suzuki, Jun Yamazaki, Ryo Watanabe, and Naoto Sugai (1999)
Chop Chop Master Onion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g80j-bLoWGw#t=00m11s), Fire! Fire! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsbO_riTJos), Captain Fussenpepper (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtCL5pgevEM), Make it Sweet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZcDlhnDZ8Y), On Tuesday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9L9OzV4Pv0#t=00m50s)
vs.

Mega Man X5 by Naoto Tanaka, Naoya Kamisaka, and Takuya Miyawaki (2000)
Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeKcgN5kxsU&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Duff McWhalen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBsmlGT0so&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Grizzly Slash (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPuibHZNeE&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), X vs. Zero (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eFI0UFfAJE&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Zero's Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjQ8I7PUKI&p=482C7792B9D2EF40)
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Round 1, Fight 14

Spyro 2 by Stewart Copeland (1999)
Idol Springs (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HD_7MuflM8), Gulp's Overlook (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYG_bV5q1Y), Hurricos (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdB5cykpYXY), Magma Cone (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQo_30iShow), Ripto's Arena (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm8845Ddz3s)
vs.

Final Fantasy VIII by Nobuo Uematsu (1999)
Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCa_B_A98I), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
My votes are for Mega Man X5 and Final Fantasy VIII. Surprisingly tough choices in both fights. But, man, UmJammer Lammy is one messed-up game.
"Did I eat my drink? I thought milk was pink." What kind of fucked-up milk is he drinking?
Bonus: Interview (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQq6rXdFGwE) with Stewart Copeland about Spyro's music where he walks you through part of his composition process.
Smarty
06-11-2011, 07:03 PM
When will these bad matchups end...? Spyro 2 is a good soundtrack, but against Final Fantasy VIII? No chance. I hope you guys give it a chance anyway. I'm voting for it for nostalgia's sake because it's probably going to lose anyway.
Um Jammer Lammy
Spyro 2
topopoz
06-11-2011, 08:03 PM
Mega Man X5 - I think I've said this several times, but this is my fauvorite Mega Man Soundtrack.
Final Fantasy VIII
Bad luck for Policenauts, If you did like the soundtrack, I highly reccomend this track in particular YouTube - ‪Policenauts OST 02-Opening Title Old L.A 2040‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvnU5_pIzZM).
aces4839
06-12-2011, 05:11 PM
tough choice for the bottom pair, but i like Final Fantasy VIII more.
Link006
06-12-2011, 08:14 PM
Mega Man X5, Spyro 2
Mega Man X5 & Final Fantasy VIII
Welcome back OSFM. :D
Thanks ~
arthurgolden
06-13-2011, 09:37 PM
Mega Man X5 (4-1) and Final Fantasy VIII (4-2) are our newest winners. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 15

Einhander by Kenichiro Fukui (1997)
Badlands (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsGBhytk02s), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdiVVNoH0dE), Thermosphere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJbe7YXsLU), Dawn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWOGH2C11AE), Shudder (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGSuki0sKQU)
vs.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/bof_50x50.gif Breath of Fire III by Yoshino Aoki and Akari Kaida (1997)
These Little Things (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXzFubnyGGY&p=1779F6882E5AF292), Fight! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voq-TVM3X9A&p=1779F6882E5AF292), Life's a Beach (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QSdhP_h0ck&p=1779F6882E5AF292), For the Dragons (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6EJcQsa2XE&p=1779F6882E5AF292), Casually (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiqMhZfIy9s&p=1779F6882E5AF292)
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Round 1, Fight 16

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night by Michiru Yamane (1997)
Marble Gallery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4XIizeAXOA), Requiem for the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9MZyK-V79M), Wandering Ghosts (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JGNPE4ayw), Dance of the Pales (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ES2vTanMQ), Wood Carving Partita (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL0UoyFS7Ww&p=9C2427AFB919D8C2)
vs.

Soukaigi by Hiroki Kikuta (1998)
Ancient Power (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-2H45WTaw&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Quake (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7nSb9evnQ&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtJJyDrNI6Q&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Labyrinth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khppDfAuLYM&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Broken Memory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5tQZtN7eSk&p=74A294E9C891A8C2)
My votes are for Einhander and Soukaigi. This is a terrible match-up for Soukaigi, which is an amazing, beautiful, virtually unknown soundtrack. If you like the recommended tracks, DEFINITELY check out the rest of it.
As for the other fight, Breath of Fire III�s music is great, but you hear it so many times throughout the long, slooow game (even the speed run is 9 hours long) that I think it inevitably loses some of its luster, even though I haven�t played it since 1998 (!). That, and Einhander is bad ass.
Side-note: Breath of Fire III has made a couple (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/video-game-music-trivia-66197/#post1283016) appearances (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/video-game-music-trivia-66197/2.html#post1463769) on the VGM Trivia thread, too.
Smarty
06-14-2011, 09:38 AM
Einhander
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Soukaigi was nice, though.
Szczepan
06-15-2011, 12:43 AM
Einhander
Soukaigi - WOW! Before I'd never thought I will vote against Symphony of the Night in the 1st round... This soundtrack is truly beautiful. Matches like this make me wish that we had a group stage instead 1st round, so luck wouldn't be a deciding factor so early:S
edit There is no active link of Soukaigi OST in the shrine... T_T
edit2 nvm It's on GH :D
topopoz
06-15-2011, 07:09 PM
Einhander
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Soukaigi was nice, though.
arthurgolden
06-15-2011, 07:12 PM
We've got a tie between Soukaigi and Symphony of the Night. Anyone want to break it?
Link006
06-15-2011, 07:54 PM
Einhander and Soukaigi. I thought Ancient Power and Broken Memory were incredible... and they had to be.... because I DETEST Quake. Ugh. I think SotN gets a little overhyped sometimes.
arthurgolden
06-16-2011, 06:27 PM
Einhander (5-0) blew out its competition. But the real surprise, maybe the biggest upset of any rumble so far, is Soukaigi (3-2) toppling Symphony of the Night. If anyone's playing the Vegas odds, they just made some serious money. Also notable is that we've now got half of our soundtracks for Round 2. Check out the OP for that list. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 17

Persona 2 by Toshiko Tasaki, Kenichi Tsuchiya, and Masaki Kurokawa (1999)
Map I (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw6-LkojX28), Maya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk702KGQsPI), Time Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGoZhnSNxF4), Kagyuu Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsArE6_lLA), Boss Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fee0GYSTebg)
vs.

Suikoden II by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4d2R9vEXQ), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSSEcgooY-I), Amid the Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80WuZ3I-YrQ), Two Rivers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJW7RvqW-bU), Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
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Round 1, Fight 18

Valkyrie Profile by Motoi Sakuraba (1999)
Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prz9wXqTFHw), The Joke Of Truth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5XHMS2SIU), To a World Becoming Impure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXndzXFVvQs), Unfinished Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfxfe0-PhQ), Holy Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g504AN2vtOg)
vs.

Monster Rancher 2 by Yutaka Fujishima, Ayako Toyoda, Masaaki Udagawa, and Saki Ishii (1999)
IMa (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfFPk1Uxqns&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Farm (Spring) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ChPtPVM6Y&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Farm (Winter) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGkTGsuxDxo&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Training (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKpQL0YOq2U&p=30F512D6E65B7749), Big Four Tournament Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdlBRJo0Ew&p=30F512D6E65B7749)
My votes are for Suikoden II (probably no surprise there) and Valkyrie Profile. Two giants in the first fight. With the second one, I like both so I'm going with the more ambitious soundtrack.
aces4839
06-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Suikoden II & Valkyrie Profile
Mercenary Raven
06-16-2011, 06:43 PM
Persona 2
Valkyrie Profile
I think the ambiance worked with Persona 2 better cause I liked the artwork in the vid more, but generally Suikoden II felt kinda... not sure what the right word for it. It was nice but it also felt sorta generic at the same time.
Valkyrie Profile was more consistent in quality than Monster Rancher to me, because i liked the last song in Monster Rancher but Valkyrie Profile had more songs I liked overall in that list.
Smarty
06-16-2011, 09:36 PM
Persona 2
Valkyrie Profile
Link006
06-17-2011, 04:09 PM
Suikoden II, Valkyrie Profile
topopoz
06-17-2011, 04:37 PM
Suikoden II, Valkyrie Profile
Szczepan
06-18-2011, 01:38 PM
Suikoden II & Valkyrie Profile
arthurgolden
06-18-2011, 06:57 PM
Suikoden II (5-2) and Valkyrie Profile (7-0) had it pretty easy there. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 19

Crash Bandicoot 3 by Mark Mothersbaugh and Josh Mancell (1998)
Dingodile Boss Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vxJ2XAKopE), Medieval Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBu20i2D0dk), Future Frenzy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQrO2UFNEo), Dr. N. Tropy Boss Music (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdO8jObarxI), Tomb Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvITxPHqNus)
vs.

Star Ocean: The Second Story by Motoi Sakuraba (1998)
Venerable Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BJ1us2KxY&p=02269E339590713C), Mission to Deep Space (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrJaZ2qx_Y&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), Breezy Afternoon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF080rAvxjc&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), Ultimate Terror (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PnVekEXJfk&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), We Form in Crystals (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boRCmchdgP0&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D)
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Round 1, Fight 20

Parappa the Rapper by Masaya Matsuura, Tuttle & Dynamo Laboratory, Kiyoshi Yoshida, Yoshihisa Suzuki, Shige Kawagoe, and Chris Parks (1996)
Chop Chop (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ3o3kQZWm8), Mooselini's Car Rap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoqllL8Vl6o), Bathroom Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEUiaO9KZQI), Cheap Cheap (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6BtPs-KNk), Katty Kat and Sunny Funny (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9JmL9w0YM)
vs.

Tekken 3 by Nobuyoshi Sano, Keiichi Okabe, Hiroyuki Kawada, Minamo Takahashi, and Yu Miyake (1998)
Yoshimitsu (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-P7t3zPrNw), Hwoarang (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwXRXsB2us ), Lei Wulong (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FqSRISWu8k ), Jin Kazama (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLPL8cPQ-8 ), Nina Williams (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2CQ3HEcBbc )
My votes are for Star Ocean and Parappa the Rapper. We Form in Crystals is an old favorite. That sealed the deal for me in the first fight. The second one was a lot tougher. Tekken 3�s music is great in-game, but it doesn't do much for me by itself. Same with Parappa, which got the edge because of the funny, bizarre stuff in the lyrics.
P.S. Welcome to Mercenary Raven.
Smarty
06-18-2011, 11:08 PM
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Tekken 3
Mercenary Raven
06-19-2011, 07:17 AM
Star Ocean: The Second Story: I think Motoi Sakuraba sucks now.... Second Story was back when he was good. Crash Bandicoot's style doesn't appear to me.
Tekken 3: Papparappa sounded really retarded to me LOL Tekken's didn't quite jive with me either but I guess Tekken's the lesser of two evils.
Thanks for the welcomes, by the way!
topopoz
06-19-2011, 02:04 PM
I've would voted Crash, but Star Ocean Turned out REALLY good. I think it instantly is my fauvorite Sakuraba OST.
Tekken 3
aces4839
06-19-2011, 05:18 PM
Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped
Szczepan
06-20-2011, 01:22 PM
Star Ocean
Parappa the Rapper - This one was hard, as those are vastly different yet both great. Not to mention fond memories of playing both :/
arthurgolden
06-20-2011, 06:02 PM
I think Motoi Sakuraba sucks now.... Second Story was back when he was good.
Hmm...I've only heard Infinite Undiscovery from his recent work and didn't like it. Even so, he gets a line of credit for so many years of interesting music. :D
I think [Star Ocean: Second Story] instantly is my fauvorite Sakuraba OST.
It's definitely up there with me. Although I think Star Ocean: Til the End of Time is my favorite. Beautiful, slow, orchestral pieces and some good synth-rock songs. If you haven't heard it, I think you'd like it. The PS2 rumble thread on the group page has recommendations (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/groups/vgm-rumble-group-procrastination-station/best-ps2-77/index8.html) for anyone who's interested.
Not to mention fond memories of playing both :/
All of my memories of Tekken 3 are of my friend Brett kicking my ass with Eddy Gordo. :laugh: I was a lot better at Street Fighter.
Mercenary Raven
06-20-2011, 06:36 PM
Hmm...I've only heard Infinite Undiscovery from his recent work and didn't like it. Even so, he gets a line of credit for so many years of interesting music. For his recent stuff I'm judging Tales games...... the OSTs post-Tales of Symphonia, I did not like one bit. (Legendia was amazing but it wasn't Sakuraba).
arthurgolden
06-20-2011, 07:23 PM
^^ Ah. That's too bad. I've never played a Tales game, but I know the music of the earlier ones and I know that the fans love them.
Well, Star Ocean (5-1) and Tekken 3 (3-2) are moving on. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 21

Brave Fencer Musashi by Tsuyoshi Sekito (1998)
Sleepy Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-R5fRkghFU&p=60E25445A0C657E9), The Only Friend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd1aVl8QTSU), Poor Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-aiSnlPs8k&p=60E25445A0C657E9), Hidden Treasure House (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE944hjg5a8&p=60E25445A0C657E9), Far into the Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDD5RhpYHBc&p=60E25445A0C657E9)
vs.

Final Fantasy Tactics by Masaharu Iwata and Hitoshi Sakimoto (1997)
Character Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS7-dPzRWg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Attack Team (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f-dPf6PSU&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
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Round 1, Fight 22

Wild Arms 2 by Michiko Naruke (1999)
Opening 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JfCYgxrQ_M), Resistance Line (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-RSzCqwWDo), Dungeon: Ruins Type 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhZ8lZJbtg), Battle Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0-wCKhhE4), Knight Blazer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V52h7nvOoO8)
vs.

Front Mission 2 by Noriko Matsueda (1997)
Saribash's Warehouse (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuw5Dy9vuRs), Counter Bar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HM2dWFXdc), Assault (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaTM8Kg5AvA), Tension (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7_JhJuNgzM), Army Camp (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbCZF_wowls)
My votes are for Final Fantasy Tactics and Wild Arms 2. Two Square properties butting heads in the first one. I love both, but I gotta go with Tactics, which is classic Sakimoto. And two female composers in the second fight, which doesn't happen too often.
The second fight is another good example of how the quality of synths for PlayStation soundtracks was sometimes dramatically different from game to game, like our earlier fight between Legend of Mana and Dragon Warrior VII. Composers had a lot more freedom compared to previous generations of consoles, but still had to play accountant and portion out how much memory could be used for certain samples and tracks. So you get a real trumpet in the second song for Wild Arms, but a synth sax in the opener for Front Mission. And it made a big difference at the time, when gamers were having their expectations reset for how video game music could sound.
Mercenary Raven
06-20-2011, 08:12 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Wild ARMs 2
I hated FFTA but i got an FFT ROM lately that i'm gonna try out cause I feel like I'd like that better at least, I like the soundtrack so far. I wanna play Wild Arms cause of the phenomenal soundtracks but I heard the gameplay's sorta typical RPG fare.... I wouldn't like it.
topopoz
06-20-2011, 11:28 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics - Fairly Obvious
Wild ARMs 2
Smarty
06-21-2011, 01:52 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics - Fairly Obvious
Wild ARMs 2
aces4839
06-21-2011, 05:12 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Szczepan
06-21-2011, 05:36 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics - Fairly Obvious
Wild ARMs 2
topopoz
06-21-2011, 05:48 PM
arthurgolden
06-22-2011, 06:45 AM
Link006
06-22-2011, 06:59 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics, Wild Arms 2.
arthurgolden
06-22-2011, 07:08 PM
@Mercenary Raven: Final Fantasy Tactics is a lot of fun. Definitely give it a whirl. I’m sure Topo can tell you anything you want to know about it. :D
As for Wild Arms, I haven’t made it very far. Just 30 minutes or so, and I got the same impression. Has anyone else played it and liked it?
Two blow-outs send Final Fantasy Tactics (7-0) and Wild Arms 2 (6-0) into the second round. We're getting close now. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 23

Rage Racer by Hiroshi Okubo and Tetsukazu Nakanishi (1996)
Mathemabeat (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG1Jv43lfIU), Deep Drive (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs3slgsKQwA), Silverstream (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuTWw2olJmg), Lightning Luge (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLwsH8dPS0), Replay (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbDRzNSrQJU)
vs.

Resident Evil 2 by Masami Ueda, Shusaku Uchiyama, and Shun Nishigaki (1998)
Raccoon City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_eEOEzs7E), The Front Hall (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7JECkVzuq0), Save Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPVrizQOma4), 2nd Malformation of G (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckr77MjcHio), Escape from Laboratory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfByN8H8BgE)
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Round 1, Fight 24

Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere by Tetsukazu Nakanishi, Masaru Shiina, Koji Nakagawa, Hiroshi Okubo, Go Shiina, Kanako Kakino, and Tomoko Tatsuta (1999)
Shattered Stones (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4n2GhLiEl0), Physical Layer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6to8JCURvVE), Transparent Blue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QZwEAKuIAw), The Crew (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOqlG0S8to), Analogue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEXYUTdLUBU)
vs.

Grandia by Noriyuki Iwadare (1999)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiNEaNxOxo&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Off Runs Sue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeqmPFt25s&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Dight Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4AQNNy0kI&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Palm Harbor (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7ej3Rk4XU&p=E916D1BD136F6D58), Four Volley Rounds of Tension (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq-xmGNMAe0&p=E916D1BD136F6D58)
My votes are for Resident Evil 2 and Grandia. Both Grandia and Ace Combat 3 are awesome, so I just picked the one I listen to more often. Grandia also impressed me because it's the work of one composer, as opposed to seven. The other fight was a little easier. It's hard to beat Resident Evil 2's "Safe Room," which is a classic.
Sidenote: You might have noticed that two lesser known names appear in both fights: Hiroshi Okubo (

) (discography (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshi_Okubo)) and Tetsukazu Nakanishi (

) (discography (
http://vgmdb.net/artist/1361)). These were the composers behind much of the Ridge Racer and Ace Combat series for Namco--both of whom have been around since the early nineties. However, neither has gained name recognition, despite their prolific output. Maybe that will change when you hear their music for Klonoa: Door to Phantomile in an upcoming fight? It's one of my favorite PlayStation soundtracks. :D
Szczepan
06-23-2011, 08:33 AM
Resident Evil 2
Grandia
Smarty
06-23-2011, 09:27 AM
Rage Racer
Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere
Mercenary Raven
06-23-2011, 05:13 PM
Resident Evil 2
Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere
Link006
06-24-2011, 04:37 PM
Rage Racer, Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere
arthurgolden
06-24-2011, 06:45 PM
Both close fights. But Resident Evil 2 (3-2) and Ace Combat 3 (3-2) won. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 25

Persona by Hidehito Aoki, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shōji Meguro, and Misaki Okibe (1996)
Poem for Everyone's Souls (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTzT_HB2A0), Hypnos Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SWcck8Bk6k), Awakening Legend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbINMJuWBs), Sanitation Dept. (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzLR0bPmqM), Police HQ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM3GuSmlRyc)
vs.

Front Mission 3 by Koji Hayama, Hayato Matsuo, and SHIGEKI (1999)
Base Invasion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHf-qaFXR8c), Assault (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtprEvm28VU), Japan (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bthCmtPYFrc), Fort Invasion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBqYgiVhY-M), Swift Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6jm-RBa4ss)
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Round 1, Fight 26

MediEvil by Andrew Barnabas and Paul Arnold (1998)
Cemetery Hill (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rklq4KouCv0), Scarecrow Fields (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUli62z2sY), Asylum Grounds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkhmnS5wvU), Crystal Caves (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI69AzFkWSw), Return To The Graveyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gmZzhP4Uw)
vs.

Spyro by Stewart Copeland (1998)
Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOnak-ozjw), Ice Cavern (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCdXPNcvVJc), Dream Weaver's Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQSsB7dwhjg), Wizard Peak (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bd940BkxGY), Toasty (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4IbvdqyNcQ)
My votes are for Persona and Spyro. The second fight was really difficult to choose. Everything on Medievil is great, but "Toasty" is a perfect combination of synths and live orchestra, and its sound is memorable enough to represent the whole Spyro series.
Bonus: A nice arranged version (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4loSMvSUy5Q) of "Poem for Everyone's Souls"
Also, here's an interesting tidbit: "The soundtrack of Front Mission 3, the third game of the main series and the fifth game of the total series, was composed by Koji Hayama and Hayato Matsuo, with one track contributed by Shigeki. Matsuo handled the orchestral pieces, while Hayama worked on the techno ones. The pieces were performed with synthesizers that were designed to sound like higher-quality versions of the types of sounds used in the original Front Mission, rather than sounding more like the actual instruments they represented." [quoted from Wikipedia]
aces4839
06-24-2011, 06:52 PM
Spyro The Dragon
Szczepan
06-24-2011, 07:15 PM
Mercenary Raven
06-25-2011, 04:03 AM
Front Mission 3
MediEvil but the second round's didn't impress me too much.
Smarty
06-25-2011, 08:42 AM
Persona
MediEvil
topopoz
06-25-2011, 06:21 PM
MediEvil
Front Mission 3 - While Persona music is top notch, Assault, Base Invasion and Fort Invasion Convinced the hell out of me.
arthurgolden
06-25-2011, 08:40 PM
<3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qGlU9jIrbQ&feature=related)
Thanks for the extra recommendation. :D That's another good one.
Assault, Base Invasion and Fort Invasion Convinced the hell out of me.
Yeah, I think those are the best tracks in the game.
On an unrelated note, here's a website full of old box art (
http://boxart.tumblr.com/) for a rainy day. The "older entries" link is small, but it's at the bottom. There are hundreds of pictures archived.
Szczepan
06-25-2011, 09:40 PM
On an unrelated note, here's a website full of old box art (
http://boxart.tumblr.com/) for a rainy day. The "older entries" link is small, but it's at the bottom. There are hundreds of pictures archived.
Nice site:)
Japanese Sir Dan xD (
http://boxart.tumblr.com/post/2323406135/medievil)
arthurgolden
06-26-2011, 07:11 PM
Persona (3-2) and Medievil (4-2) won. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 27
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/01.gif Threads of Fate by Junya Nakano (1999)
To the Ultimate Relic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4jP-tlCaSw), Opening Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3SQ1hZQnU ), Temple of Ghosts (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esT2-esRfnQ), The Bonds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67FkEWG6Do), Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNpQ_OiofJw)
vs.

Silent Hill by Akira Yamaoka (1999)
Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZQo_ZMeR8U), Dead End (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PXEgoqZ9mk ), Wings of Hell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFxA_JAcQQ), Blood Tears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdkYRx63HM), Killing Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1XyDFM6Oc0)
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Round 1, Fight 28

Skullmonkeys by Terry Scott Taylor (1998)
Little Bonus Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al0XOLM9FPw), Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CofPOEH8S-o), Hard Boiler Eggs (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6g_yCK-9Vk), Klogg Is Dead! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUmv8imdH0), She Reminded Me With Science (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngajEwTy2d4)
vs.

Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete by Noriyuki Iwadare (1999)
Footsteps of a Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvDi54VbBA), Promenade (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar6VnPcy5s0), Field to Tomorrow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgR1BBN4-XM), Lucia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIANYjU1Cc), The Last Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7mdhKSEER0)
My votes are for Silent Hill and Lunar 2.
I love Threads of Fate�s soundtrack, and I�m playing the game right now and enjoying it. It�s a nicely cohesive soundtrack with a lot of variations on its strongest melodies. But all things being equal, Silent Hill is every bit as cohesive and more important to the history of vgm. It seems to me that Akira Yamaoka made good on Hip Tanaka�s mission to create an ambient, engrossing video game soundtrack that didn�t rely on melodies for emotional impact (although it had plenty of good melodies). Silent Hill�s quite a bit scarier than Metroid, too. Right from that opening theme, you know you�re not in the Mushroom Kingdom anymore.
Speaking of scary music, �Lil Bonus Room.� Holy shit. I�ll never leave you.
Mercenary Raven
06-27-2011, 12:54 AM
The first one was close... but Threads of Fate wins out.
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Smarty
06-27-2011, 08:27 AM
Silent Hill
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
arthurgolden
06-28-2011, 03:15 AM
Need more votes. :-\
In the meantime, here's (
http://idrawnintendo.tumblr.com/) another little distraction. More video game art.

Smarty
06-28-2011, 07:39 AM
That is in response to the new Kid Icarus, I presume?
topopoz
06-28-2011, 11:57 AM
Silent Hill
I'll add my other vote later, kinda busy.
Szczepan
06-28-2011, 06:43 PM
Silent Hill - I couldn't make up my mind for quite a long time here. Both are very atmospheric:)
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
arthurgolden
06-28-2011, 10:00 PM
That is in response to the new Kid Icarus, I presume?
Yep. Don't have much of an opinion myself on the matter, though. I've played and beaten Kid Icarus, and I never had the nostalgia that others did for it.
I'll add my other vote later, kinda busy.
No worries. I think we've got two clear winners now. I'm gonna post the new fight in a little bit.
arthurgolden
06-28-2011, 11:47 PM
Easy wins for Silent Hill (4-1) and Lunar 2 (4-0). Next up...
Round 1, Fight 29

Gran Turismo by Masahiro Andoh and Isamu Ohira (1997)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mOOy8tekaU), Race Preparations (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DJhnUgj2c8), Car Selection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3w9RbqgHZI), High (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QKYnHJ-dck), Arcade Mode (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlaA7K6wDE)
vs.

Gauntlet Legends by John Paul, Barry Leitch, Joe Lyford, and Michael Henry (1998)
09 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrQpiEXxYQ&playnext=1&list=PLB639BFFED82B3FAC), 15 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QYe6OVw75I), 22 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em9jjUL-Wdg), 35 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqw4upG4uVc), 37 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6eWhPtR8G0&feature=BF&list=PLF81890ECA1563DAF&index=6)
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Round 1, Fight 30

Treasures of the Deep by Tommy Tallarico (1997)
Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU00TZ27GF8), Bonaire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4B6kc_ifUg ), Puerto Rico Trench (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ES62nkJP_Y), Strait of Hormuz (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8M9vD6PGIc), Bermuda Triangle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAK_MIVdimw )
vs.

Intelligent Qube by Takayuki Hattori (1997)
Stage 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGx8NUmsGj0), Stage 4 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H7qEx8p3Bs), Menu (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YnOa7ZOzsU), Almost Dead (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTALaa6zLA&p=8BBC95056A9DCB82), Stage 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmfa6kteGyI)
My votes are for Gauntlet Legends and Treasures of the Deep. This one goes out to Szczepan, who introduced me to the Treasures of the Deep soundtrack way back when we did the aquatic music rumble.
Link006
06-29-2011, 06:41 PM
Gran Turismo, Treasures of the Deep
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