Mercenary Raven
06-29-2011, 10:32 PM
I REALLY liked High from Gran Turismo, but I vote for The Gauntlet Legends and Treasures of the Deep.
arthurgolden
06-29-2011, 10:49 PM
I like High, too. What did it for me was #15 and #22 from Gauntlet Legends.
By the way, if anyone knows the titles of the Gauntlet tracks, let me know. I've searched in the past with no success.
Szczepan
06-29-2011, 11:51 PM
Gauntlet Legends
Treasures of the Deep - Stage 1 from IQ was good though. While with Stage 4 I had a deja vu... Haven't played the game, but I could swear I heared it somewhere:P
topopoz
06-30-2011, 02:13 AM
I really really REALLY Reccommend the tracks of Isamu Ohira from ANY Gran Turismo Soundtrack.
YouTube - ‪Gran Turismo 1 Japanese Soundtrack-The Motorious City‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdYwNwdGHc4)
YouTube - ‪Gran Turismo 1 Japanese Soundtrack Mr 4WD‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VmOqsMSO68)
YouTube - ‪Gran Turismo - Turning Point‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRG4Tw8-lFE)
So, with that said. Gran Turismo
Treasures of the Deep - This does not sound like VGM at all. It's fucking amazing.
Smarty
06-30-2011, 07:12 AM
Gran Turismo
Treasures of the Deep Well, this was a nice surprise.
arthurgolden
06-30-2011, 09:04 PM
We've got a 3-3 tie between Gauntlet Legends and Gran Turismo. Next vote determines the winner.
arthurgolden
07-01-2011, 03:46 PM
Hi all. I hate putting a time limit on the tie-breaker, but I won’t be on the Shrine again this weekend. So I think it’d be better to do a coin flip and get the next fight started, rather than letting this sit for several more days. And the coin flip goes to…Gran Turismo (4-3). The other winner is Treasures of the Deep (6-0). Next up, the final fight of Round 1…
Round 1, Fight 31
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/xenogears0007.gif Xenogears by Yasunori Mitsuda (1998)
Wings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlF6TV1im0), Shebat the Wind Is Calling (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nMHsFOEZmo), Knight of Fire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vtYBIod9ak), June Mermaid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYCmED_YDqs), Stage of Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEzW06O5kk4)
vs.

Gran Turismo 2 by Masahiro Andoh and Isamu Ohira (1999)
Windroad (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqSQZxW9x0), The Real Motorious City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D_J8BGN4dI), The Drift of Air (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCY987VPsI), Soul of Garage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PfSPq4P0s), From the East (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJdU544NmyU)
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Round 1, Fight 32

Tomb Raider by Martin Iveson and Nathan McCree (1996)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ekipC2ANs), Thor Room Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STRpUI00_-E), Battle against Giant Mutant (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PoQ5SaigU), Colosseum (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQmWTorTsk), Natla's Mines (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrDOhBc52n8)
vs.

Klonoa: Door to Phantomile by Eriko Imura, Junko Ozawa, Kanako Kokino, Hiroshi Okubo, Tetsukazu Nakanishi, Kota Takahashi, Hiromi Shibano, Tomoko Tatsuta, and Takaki Horigome (1997)
The Closing Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v64adqW049w), Count Three (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wllG0ECkCH0), Nevertheless (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJVbTElmI_E), The Rongo Longo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOnvUCA04xw), Blue Cave Echo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTocPyV6Vw)
My votes are for Xenogears and Klonoa. Gran Turismo 2 kicks ass, but Xenogears is a classic. In the second fight, we’ve got our winner for the most ridiculous number of composers on one soundtrack. That’s nine people for Klonoa.
Oh, and I forgot to say thank you to Topopoz for the extra recommendations in the last fight. :D Have a good weekend everybody.
aces4839
07-01-2011, 05:10 PM
We've got a 3-3 tie between Gauntlet Legends and Gran Turismo. Next vote determines the winner.
Gran Turismo woulda been my vote. sry i was late.
Mercenary Raven
07-01-2011, 09:24 PM
I didn't like second selection too much (The Closing Encounter was good) but my votes are Xenogears and Klonoa.
Smarty
07-01-2011, 10:09 PM
Xenogears
Tomb Raider The main theme gets me every time. Also, am I the only one who thinks it sounds Final Fantasy Tactics-ish?
Also, this (
http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01985/) OCRemix is relevant, I think (check out the rest from Xenogears, great stuff). Awesome mix by Fishy. He's one of my favorites on the site.
In the second fight, we've got our winner for the most ridiculous number of composers on one soundtrack. That�s nine people for Klonoa.
Not quite. Check the composer list for Bayonetta first. Hell, if we look hard enough I'm sure we'll find a game with more composers than either of these two, but I can tell you that Klonoa's 9 pale in comparison to Bayonetta's 11.
topopoz
07-01-2011, 11:53 PM
Let me give at least one Vote to Gran Turismo 2
Tomb Raider
Link006
07-02-2011, 08:54 PM
Xenogears and Tomb Raider; second battle was a close one.
Szczepan
07-04-2011, 01:37 PM
Xenogears - one of my candidates for overall victory. Love this game and it's music.
Klonoa - both sound great. When yesterday I was listening to them I've almost voted for TR, but it was pretty late so left that for today. Now after listening through them again while not being half awake, I prefer Klonoa xD
arthurgolden
07-05-2011, 09:07 PM
Hi all. Back again. Hope everybody had a good weekend.
Also, this (
http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01985/) OCRemix is relevant, I think (check out the rest from Xenogears, great stuff). Awesome mix by Fishy. He's one of my favorites on the site.
Thanks for that recommendation. :D
Not quite. Check the composer list for Bayonetta first. Hell, if we look hard enough I'm sure we'll find a game with more composers than either of these two
Probably true. Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner, which was in discussion for the Sakimoto rumble, has 10 itself. There are probably a lot more examples I'm not thinking of that have even more.
When yesterday I was listening to them I've almost voted for TR, but it was pretty late so left that for today. Now after listening through them again while not being half awake, I prefer Klonoa xD
:D That happened to me with the Spyro fight a little ways back.
Okay...I'm counting the votes and we've got another 3-3 tie, this time between Tomb Raider and Klonoa. If aces or anyone else who hasn't voted wants to break the tie, that vote will end Round 1.
aces4839
07-06-2011, 05:56 PM
if arthur insists, then Klonoa
arthurgolden
07-06-2011, 11:41 PM
Thanks to aces for the tie-break. That means our final winners for Round 1 are Xenogears (5-1) and Klonoa (4-3). As always, the current list of competing songs/soundtracks is listed in the OP, if you're interested. Time for Round 2�
Round 2, Fight 1

Soukaigi by Hiroki Kikuta (1998)
Ancient Power (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-2H45WTaw&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Quake (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7nSb9evnQ&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtJJyDrNI6Q&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Labyrinth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khppDfAuLYM&p=74A294E9C891A8C2), Broken Memory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5tQZtN7eSk&p=74A294E9C891A8C2)
vs.

Metal Gear Solid by Takanari Ishiyama, Gigi Meroni, Kazuki Muraoka, Lee Jeon Myung, Hiroyuki Togo, Maki Kirioka, Rika Muranaka, and Tappi Iwase (1998)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk), Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQRWJ7bIhs), Discovery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79a_5qM0h8), Mantis Hymn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMasLUmBzkc ), The Best Is Yet to Come (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g )
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Round 2, Fight 2

Breath of Fire IV by Yoshino Aoki (2000)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0T8ACxq3o), Overworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-MJTU8JeZI), Yet the Merchants Will Go (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6RKoOqErWE), Prayer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcLMurlX8oI), A Raging Emperor's Banquet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noRxXKRDRsM)
vs.

Resident Evil 2 by Masami Ueda, Shusaku Uchiyama, and Shun Nishigaki (1998)
Raccoon City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_eEOEzs7E), The Front Hall (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7JECkVzuq0), Save Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPVrizQOma4), 2nd Malformation of G (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckr77MjcHio), Escape from Laboratory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfByN8H8BgE)
My votes are for Soukaigi and Breath of Fire IV. I feel like Metal Gear Solid's music fit the game perfectly and was wonderfully understated, but outside the game I'd rather listen to Soukaigi's soundtrack. That's true for Resident Evil 2, too, and why I voted for Breath of Fire IV.
Speaking of which, last time around Szczepan posted some extra recommendations for BOFIV. Whenever you all do that, I will try to remember to post them, too. If I forget, though, always feel free to share more links of your favorite tracks.
How Long Will The Rain Last (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbFv8J-M5JI&feature=related), Landscape (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q23HiK0h1yQ&feature=related), Men Of War (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSar3hbE_E&feature=related), Like the Sun, Like the Moon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8U_Sb6NMs4)
Finally, if anyone is having trouble loading YouTube videos (which happened to my wife last night and me today), it's apparently happening to a lot of people. A couple fixes are recommended based on what I read, but all it took for me was to delete my history and it immediately started working again. :-\ Weird.
topopoz
07-07-2011, 01:00 AM
I'm going with Nostalgia Here. Both of these games marked my childhood and they were the primary source for learning English back in the day. So they're THAT important to me.
Resident Evil 2
Metal Gear Solid
Smarty
07-07-2011, 08:26 AM
Metal Gear Solid
Breath Of Fire IV
Like I said in round 1 Soukaigi was nice, but it didn't hold a candle to Symphony of the Night and that's equally true for MGS. I hope it doesn't win.
Also, please join me in celebrating the 6 year anniversary of Killer7. Fantastic game.
Szczepan
07-07-2011, 07:27 PM
My votes are for Soukaigi and Breath of Fire IV. I feel like Metal Gear Solid's music fit the game perfectly and was wonderfully understated, but outside the game I'd rather listen to Soukaigi's soundtrack. That's true for Resident Evil 2, too, and why I voted for Breath of Fire IV.
Same here. The Soukaigi effect still hasn't worn off. It's like love at 1st sight for me, heh :)
btw It's second round already and I've just realised that Playstation VGM Rumble is missing Saga Frontier II soundtrack :shock: Shame we forgot about it :notgood:
It's way too late to change anything in rumble, but it can at least get a honorable mention, right?:)

Saga Frontier II by Masashi Hamauzu (1999)
Variation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USVgKQLYqSc), Thema (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXzrulChJXs), Naturvolk (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1ySWuRMhY), Ovation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A6rpzCqt90), Unmacht (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9mtQt5N6w), Botschaft (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRRXlQ9TJCM), Feldschlacht IV (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhtv6D-kY8), Todfeind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEYwzoIBJJk), Erfolg (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAAGOeWiz2U), Roman (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-zsONLYqzs), Mibgestalt (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8NFIE30jpA), Haupt Mann (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw5YhixEC4c), Eisklumpen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IsqKaesNQ)
and a catchy remix of Feldschlacht IV (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCOGa_zYsfk) :)
Sorry for so many tracks, but couldn't make up my mind which ones should be removed - so many beautiful things;P Besides it doesn't compete in the rumble, so it's ok i guess. I hope it will be a good listen:) If you will like those I highly encourage to listen to whole soundtrack.
btw About all those german names - Hamauzu was born and spent good part of his childhood in Germany.
Mercenary Raven
07-07-2011, 07:54 PM
Metal Gear Solid... their soundtracks were about equal, but I love MGS way too much to not vote it. I haven't played the first MGS in any incarnation yet, though... but i have played 2-4 lol
Resident Evil 2
arthurgolden
07-08-2011, 07:36 PM
These both games marked my childhood and they're were the primary source for learning English back in the day.
Interesting! You can learn a lot (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYN1yz5lU8A&feature=related) from the codecs, I imagine.
Also, please join me in celebrating the 6 year anniversary of Killer7. Fantastic game.
Happy birthday to Killer7. :D I've never played it, but it looks really interesting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rhvLebx1iA).
it can at least get a honorable mention, right?:)

Saga Frontier II by Masashi Hamauzu (1999)
Absolutely. :D Thanks for the links.
I haven't played the first MGS in any incarnation yet, though... but i have played 2-4 lol
You should really play the first one. Small moments in that game echo throughout the rest of the series. It's really worth it.
Mercenary Raven
07-08-2011, 08:14 PM
I saw the cutscenes (both versions) so I knew what went on, I just want to play it for myself :P
arthurgolden
07-08-2011, 11:35 PM
Close voting on both fights. The winners are Metal Gear Solid (3-2) and Breath of Fire IV (3-2). Next up...
Round 2, Fight 3

Suikoden II by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4d2R9vEXQ), Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8), Amid the Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80WuZ3I-YrQ), Two Rivers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJW7RvqW-bU), Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
vs.

The Legend of Dragoon by Takeo Miratsu and Dennis Martin (1999)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CczTRFhlqhI), Royal Capitol (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtSOr1FZC8), Enemy Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lM02OP0KF8), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI5_MHdVU_c), Ruined Celes (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTlpKWXaKtM)
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Round 2, Fight 4

Final Fantasy Tactics by Masaharu Iwata and Hitoshi Sakimoto (1997)
Character Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS7-dPzRWg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Attack Team (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f-dPf6PSU&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
vs.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/mmx6-small.gif Mega Man X6 by Naota Tanaka (2001)
Opening Stage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL0Bt7AprJ8), Blaze Heatnix (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0yZtgyqHXM), Rainy Turtloid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KlIff4dEY), Commander Yammark (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYeWo_9v38g), Hi-MAX (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Y21jWpoO0)
My votes are for Suikoden II (surprise surprise) and Final Fantasy Tactics.
topopoz
07-09-2011, 05:20 PM
Suikoden II
Final Fantasy Tactics
Next battle please...
aces4839
07-09-2011, 05:36 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Mercenary Raven
07-09-2011, 07:46 PM
Legend of Dragoon
Final Fantasy Tactics
Szczepan
07-10-2011, 05:05 PM
Suikoden II
Final Fantasy Tactics
Next battle please...
arthurgolden
07-10-2011, 10:46 PM
So Suikoden II (3-1) and Final Fantasy Tactics (5-0) are moving on. And next up...
Round 2, Fight 5

Einhander by Kenichiro Fukui (1997)
Badlands (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsGBhytk02s), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdiVVNoH0dE), Thermosphere (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hJbe7YXsLU), Dawn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWOGH2C11AE), Shudder (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGSuki0sKQU)
vs.

Tekken 3 by Nobuyoshi Sano, Keiichi Okabe, Hiroyuki Kawada, Minamo Takahashi, and Yu Miyake (1998)
Yoshimitsu (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-P7t3zPrNw), Hwoarang (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwXRXsB2us ), Lei Wulong (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FqSRISWu8k ), Jin Kazama (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLPL8cPQ-8 ), Nina Williams (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2CQ3HEcBbc )
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Round 2, Fight 6

Soul Edge by Masumi Ito, Benten Maru, Yoshiyuki Ito, Aki Hata, Taku Iwasaki (1996)
A Continental Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9HjyPkQbg), Bravely Folk Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AygV-L4P_7w), A Travel Diary (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Iq9dkolCw), The Edge of Soul (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYcqP1TWYOE), Moonlit Shadows (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqf8uYPbi0Q)
vs.

MediEvil by Andrew Barnabas and Paul Arnold (1998)
Cemetery Hill (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rklq4KouCv0), Scarecrow Fields (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUli62z2sY), Asylum Grounds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkhmnS5wvU), Crystal Caves (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI69AzFkWSw), Return To The Graveyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gmZzhP4Uw)
My votes are for Einhander and Medievil.
These are two interesting fights because they each represent tendencies of video game composers in the post-16-bit world. If you remember, the SNES had difficulty (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/official-video-game-music-rumble-66118/30.html#post1490785) creating rock music faithfully because of its compression method. There were workarounds and there were exceptions, but for the most part SNES music was faux-orchestral and Genesis music was rock- and techno-influenced.
That changed with the next generation of consoles when composers working with the PlayStation were freed from many of the technical limitations of the past. Thus, you have a plethora of rock- and techno-influenced soundtracks like our first two competitors, in numbers equivalent to orchestral soundtracks such as Medievil and, to a lesser extent, Soul Edge.
In this way, the world of video game music was opening up for PlayStation gamers, far beyond these two oversimplified categories as well, making the fifth generation one of the most important for the evolution of vgm.
Szczepan
07-11-2011, 12:32 AM
Tekken 3
MediEvil
Mercenary Raven
07-11-2011, 07:00 AM
Einhander
Soul Edge
topopoz
07-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Tekken 3
MediEvil
Smarty
07-11-2011, 04:39 PM
Tekken 3
MediEvil
I didn't miss a particularly exciting battle it seems, since I would have voted for both of the winners anyway. Also wow, Super Metroid would have sounded awesome on Genesis.
Never let it be said that Einhander is in any way a bad soundtrack, however, because that is a lie. Personally, my vote is slightly biased due to my experience with Tekken 3 as a kid. That applies to MediEvil as well, but I didn't like Soul Edge much.
Edit: Browsing through some of the older pages of this rumble, I feel like we should try to get more voters. We get 5-6 people voting now, while a few months ago we had nearly double that. Of course, you can't expect most people to stick around forever but that doesn't mean we can't get new people to participate.
arthurgolden
07-12-2011, 08:15 PM
Browsing through some of the older pages of this rumble, I feel like we should try to get more voters. We get 5-6 people voting now, while a few months ago we had nearly double that. Of course, you can't expect most people to stick around forever but that doesn't mean we can't get new people to participate.
I'm always happy to have more participating. Our philosophy is definitely "the more, the merrier." If you all mention the rumble to your friends or put a link in your signature, that could help bring in new people.
I also have several ideas that you all could help with. For instance, I've been thinking about uploading the songs from each rumble in separate threads in the Downloads forum. That way, people can download the music and also be encouraged to come check us out. I just don't have the time to create those threads right now. But if anyone is interested, let me know and I can send you some stuff.
I've also done a lot of advertising in other threads and through PMs. Obviously, you don't want to annoy others, especially over a thread that many people have seen by now. But I've stayed active in encouraging people to participate.
However, I think the best thing to do is to just keep going, making things fun and interesting. If that holds true, people will talk about the thread. If others hear about it, they'll take a look.
arthurgolden
07-12-2011, 10:26 PM
This time it�s Tekken 3 (3-2) and Medievil (4-1). Next up�
Round 2, Fight 7

Wild Arms 2 by Michiko Naruke (1999)
Opening 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JfCYgxrQ_M), Resistance Line (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-RSzCqwWDo), Dungeon: Ruins Type 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhZ8lZJbtg), Battle Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0-wCKhhE4), Knight Blazer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V52h7nvOoO8)
vs.

Suikoden by Miki Higashino, Tappy Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
Beautiful Golden City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCME4Wxvj4k ), Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE ), Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8 ), Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I), Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk)
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Round 2, Fight 8
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/xenogears0007.gif Xenogears by Yasunori Mitsuda (1998)
Wings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlF6TV1im0), Shebat the Wind Is Calling (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nMHsFOEZmo), Knight of Fire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vtYBIod9ak), June Mermaid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYCmED_YDqs), Stage of Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEzW06O5kk4)
vs.

Mega Man X5 by Naoto Tanaka, Naoya Kamisaka, and Takuya Miyawaki (2000)
Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeKcgN5kxsU&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Duff McWhalen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBsmlGT0so&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Grizzly Slash (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPuibHZNeE&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), X vs. Zero (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eFI0UFfAJE&p=482C7792B9D2EF40), Zero's Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjQ8I7PUKI&p=482C7792B9D2EF40)
My votes are for Suikoden (surprise surprise) and Xenogears.
aces4839
07-13-2011, 01:15 AM
Suikoden
Mercenary Raven
07-13-2011, 01:55 AM
Suikoden
Mega Man X5
Smarty
07-13-2011, 08:20 AM
Suikoden
Xenogears
topopoz
07-13-2011, 11:02 AM
Suikoden
Mega Man X5
Don't get me wrong I have in very High Regard Xenogears, as the soundtrack that opened the doors of Mitsuda to define the sound of music he does from that point to these days.
But I just love MMX5 music and game that much.
Szczepan
07-13-2011, 12:32 PM
Suikoden
Xenogears
arthurgolden
07-14-2011, 09:02 PM
A surprisingly large margin of victory for Suikoden (6-0) against the popular Wild Arms 2 soundtrack, and a surprisingly small margin of victory for Xenogears (3-2), which was discussed last round as a good bet to win the entire rumble. Interesting. Next up...
Round 2, Fight 9

Final Fantasy VIII by Nobuo Uematsu (1999)
Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCa_B_A98I), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
vs.

Persona by Hidehito Aoki, Kenichi Tsuchiya, Shōji Meguro, and Misaki Okibe (1996)
Poem for Everyone's Souls (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGTzT_HB2A0), Hypnos Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SWcck8Bk6k), Awakening Legend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbINMJuWBs), Sanitation Dept. (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xzLR0bPmqM), Police HQ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM3GuSmlRyc)
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Round 2, Fight 10

Star Ocean: The Second Story by Motoi Sakuraba (1998)
Venerable Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BJ1us2KxY&p=02269E339590713C), Mission to Deep Space (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrJaZ2qx_Y&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), Breezy Afternoon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF080rAvxjc&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), Ultimate Terror (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PnVekEXJfk&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D), We Form in Crystals (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boRCmchdgP0&p=4272CFF71FF5C27D)
vs.

Valkyrie Profile by Motoi Sakuraba (1999)
Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prz9wXqTFHw), The Joke Of Truth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy5XHMS2SIU), To a World Becoming Impure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXndzXFVvQs), Unfinished Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfxfe0-PhQ), Holy Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g504AN2vtOg)
My votes are for Final Fantasy VIII and Star Ocean: The Second Story.
aces4839
07-14-2011, 09:09 PM
Final Fantasy VIII & Valkyrie Profile
topopoz
07-15-2011, 01:23 AM
FFVIII
Star Ocean
Link006
07-15-2011, 02:30 AM
Final Fantasy VIII, Valkyrie Profile
Szczepan
07-15-2011, 05:06 PM
Final Fantasy VIII
Valkyrie Profile - both sound equally good to me, but have good memories with VP, so it wins by a slight margin.
Mercenary Raven
07-15-2011, 05:10 PM
Final Fantasy VIII
Valkyrie Profile
not gonna lie... i chose FF8 cause I played it :S
Smarty
07-15-2011, 05:38 PM
Final Fantasy VIII
Valkyrie Profile
arthurgolden
07-19-2011, 12:21 AM
Sorry for the delay. I had to go out of town and didn't have internet access. We've got Final Fantasy VIII (7-0) and Valkyrie Profile (5-2) winning pretty handily. Next up...
Round 2, Fight 11

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
vs.

Resident Evil by Makoto Tomozawa, Akari Kaida, and Masami Ueda (1996)
Save Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzWOfaTYjdo), The Night Begins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi-Dz_t1AHM), Vacant Flat (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7OIfghQoiQ), The One Who Survives (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_OBrufV5g), Narrow and Close (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanrLbBThJE)
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Round 2, Fight 12

Silent Hill by Akira Yamaoka (1999)
Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZQo_ZMeR8U), Dead End (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PXEgoqZ9mk ), Wings of Hell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFxA_JAcQQ), Blood Tears (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdkYRx63HM), Killing Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1XyDFM6Oc0)
vs.

Final Fantasy IX by Nobuo Uematsu (2000)
The Place I'll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW3QK6CTg2g), Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o), Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk), Darkness of Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSi6_hbpo8), Bran Bal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4mbIP4vbM)
My votes are for Resident Evil and Silent Hill. Surprised myself with both of these votes after re-listening to the soundtracks. All four are impressive, but these are especially impressive for their historical importance. Even though they're mostly composed of atmospheric music, they contributed immensely to making both series memorable and successful.
topopoz
07-19-2011, 12:39 AM
Vagrant Story - I'll admit what you've said about Resident Evil and I agree partially, I still prefer the music of 2 & 3 over 1.
But to me it doesn't reach to the toes of the quality of Composition of this Soundtrack.
Beyond my obvious weakness for Sakimoto's Music, Vagrant Story is the one most Heterogeneous Soundtracks outhere, It brought a wide variety of sounds and moods in the history of all VGM. Plus the Blending of the music with the Imagery of the game makes me weep.
From an artistical standpoint Vagrant Story wins for me, because it's the Magnum Opus that's been overlooked for being too unusual for the regular consumer.
Without going further with this I'll give some more links with amazing tracks of this amazing piece of art.
Graylands Incident Climax (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cr42rn8KSA)
Attic of the Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpEfS_1yoPo)
Truth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twxf2zAOCdE)
Golem
(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqU-PVOZOw)
I'll stop here, because I'm capable of posting the whole 2 disks of the Soundtrack XD.
Silent Hill - Agreed on this one as well, even though the rest SH music was more trip hop influenced. The Industrial and chaotic sound of this one nails it and remains as my fauvorite SH soundtrack for being the most twisted of the whole series. =D
aces4839
07-19-2011, 12:51 AM
Final Fantasy IX
Link006
07-19-2011, 03:43 AM
Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy IX.
Smarty
07-19-2011, 07:10 AM
Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy IX
I find it funny that both of the games in the 2nd bracket are my least favorites in series I otherwise enjoy. While I am well aware that the entire SH series started with 1 and my beloved Silent Hills 2 and 3 wouldn't exist without it, I still find the original rather weak and I while I don't say the same for the soundtrack, I don't enjoy it as much as later installments, which is why I decided to vote FFIX over it. Now let it be said that I despise that one as game, but it's arguably Uematsu's best score.
topopoz
07-19-2011, 11:55 AM
I find it funny that both of the games in the 2nd bracket are my least favorites in series I otherwise enjoy. While I am well aware that the entire SH series started with 1 and my beloved Silent Hills 2 and 3 wouldn't exist without it, I still find the original rather weak and I while I don't say the same for the soundtrack, I don't enjoy it as much as later installments, which is why I decided to vote FFIX over it. Now let it be said that I despise that one as game, but it's arguably Uematsu's best score.
I disagree regarding FFIX... Even though I'll admit it has some superb tracks... Many many of them are weak and repetitive to the point of being annoying, just like the game itself of course. =D
SH1 is not a weak game by all means. Look at the year it was released and it's much better than 4 or the rest. It is my fauvorite SH game of course, I won't deny what's so good on SH2. But SH1 has some charm to me and does not have many facepalm moments like those found on 3, 4 or the rest of the series. Origins is one of the worst pieces of Garbage ever along with Homecoming, which is a wannabe SH2.
Szczepan
07-19-2011, 05:51 PM
Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy IX
arthurgolden
07-21-2011, 12:02 AM
I disagree regarding FFIX... Even though I'll admit it has some superb tracks... Many many of them are weak and repetitive to the point of being annoying, just like the game itself of course. =D
Hahaha. I�m not a fan of FFIX either. I do like the soundtrack, though. Just not as much as VI and VIII.
Thanks to topopoz for the extra links. :D Vagrant Story (4-1) is moving on, as is Final Fantasy IX (4-2). Next up, the penultimate fight of the second round�
Round 2, Fight 13

Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere by Tetsukazu Nakanishi, Masaru Shiina, Koji Nakagawa, Hiroshi Okubo, Go Shiina, Kanako Kakino, and Tomoko Tatsuta (1999)
Shattered Stones (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4n2GhLiEl0), Physical Layer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6to8JCURvVE), Transparent Blue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QZwEAKuIAw), The Crew (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOqlG0S8to), Analogue (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEXYUTdLUBU)
vs.

Treasures of the Deep by Tommy Tallarico (1997)
Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU00TZ27GF8), Bonaire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4B6kc_ifUg ), Puerto Rico Trench (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ES62nkJP_Y), Strait of Hormuz (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8M9vD6PGIc), Bermuda Triangle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAK_MIVdimw )
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Round 2, Fight 14

Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete by Noriyuki Iwadare (1999)
Footsteps of a Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvDi54VbBA), Promenade (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar6VnPcy5s0), Field to Tomorrow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgR1BBN4-XM), Lucia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIANYjU1Cc), The Last Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7mdhKSEER0)
vs.

Chrono Cross by Yasunori Mitsuda (1999)
Time�s Scar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8), Star-Stealing Girl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoEMaWrQBQM), Ghost�s Island (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmvWxotH1I), Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLc1xnZPlvY), Garden of the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzrdbzKRFg)
My votes are for Ace Combat 3 and Chrono Cross.
Szczepan
07-21-2011, 02:57 PM
Treasures of the Deep
Chrono Cross
topopoz
07-21-2011, 03:25 PM
Treasures of the Deep
Chrono Cross
Smarty
07-21-2011, 05:15 PM
Treasures of the Deep
Chrono Cross
arthurgolden
07-22-2011, 11:11 PM
Not a lot of votes this time around. Nevertheless, we�ve got two winners: Treasures of the Deep (3-1) and Chrono Cross (4-0). Next up, the final fights of Round 2�
Round 2, Fight 15

Gran Turismo by Masahiro Andoh and Isamu Ohira (1997)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mOOy8tekaU), Race Preparations (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DJhnUgj2c8), Car Selection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3w9RbqgHZI), High (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QKYnHJ-dck), Arcade Mode (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlaA7K6wDE)
vs.

Legend of Mana by Yoko Shimomura (1999)
Title Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBeMTXZ56XY ), World of Mana (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkSPMjSKAE ), Hometown Domina (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5kpd6Swmk ), Moonlit City Roa (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QopZDjvj5g ), Nostalgic Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgWeKfyP2Ys )
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Round 2, Fight 16

Final Fantasy VII by Nobuo Uematsu (1997)
Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxKxCz9M4s), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxfCWaXYIo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqKWLkm2-g), Cid's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E)
vs.

Klonoa: Door to Phantomile by Eriko Imura, Junko Ozawa, Kanako Kokino, Hiroshi Okubo, Tetsukazu Nakanishi, Kota Takahashi, Hiromi Shibano, Tomoko Tatsuta, and Takaki Horigome (1997)
The Closing Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v64adqW049w), Count Three (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wllG0ECkCH0), Nevertheless (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJVbTElmI_E), The Rongo Longo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOnvUCA04xw), Blue Cave Echo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTocPyV6Vw)
My votes are for Legend of Mana and Final Fantasy VII. The first one is tough. GT and LofM couldn't be going for more dissimilar moods. One is fast-paced and upbeat; the other is soporific and heavy. Both are well done. Both make good use of synths. Both are varied. Both come from popular games. And both stick to their genre conventions pretty closely. For me, it came down to the fact that I listen to Legend of Mana a little more often.
The second fight is easy except for the fact that I really like Klonoa and, with a lesser opponent, might have made it another round or so.
Keep in mind topopoz's extra recommendations for Gran Turismo as well:
YouTube - ‪Gran Turismo 1 Japanese Soundtrack-The Motorious City‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdYwNwdGHc4)
YouTube - ‪Gran Turismo 1 Japanese Soundtrack Mr 4WD‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VmOqsMSO68)
YouTube - ‪Gran Turismo - Turning Point‬‏ (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRG4Tw8-lFE)
Szczepan
07-23-2011, 01:45 PM
Legend of Mana
Final Fantasy VII
aces4839
07-23-2011, 05:42 PM
Gran Turismo & Final Fantasy VII
Smarty
07-24-2011, 09:01 PM
Legend of Mana
Final Fantasy VII
I just like Shimomura way too much. Gran Turismo's music is fantastic as well, but still. Regarding that little argument we had earlier about which game has the most composers, yeah I think found it. Super Smash Brothers Brawl had 38.
arthurgolden
07-24-2011, 09:08 PM
EDIT: ^^ I completely forgot about Brawl! That's gotta be the winner, as far as I know. Good call.
I'm gonna let this run another day. I know some people have been busy this whole week.
Completely off-topic: I just finished watching both seasons of Twin Peaks on Netflix streaming, and I am totally obsessed with it. If you haven't seen the show, I highly recommend checking out the first season. It's dramatic and full of twists, like a soap opera. But it's also subtle, tense, devoted to character development, and--best of all--hilarious. It's so funny I was clapping like an idiot and falling out of my chair. I now realize how many times people around me have quoted it without me knowing. You'll also see its influence on tons of other shows once you've watched it. And it doesn't hurt that nearly every woman on it is smokin' hot.
Closer to the topic: It's got good music, too, which is posted all around the Downloads forum (example 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db5ZhxM8VZQ), example 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9DTiPhkws)). Mandi even had a thread somewhere, I think, with the episodes posted for download.
Check it out. :D
topopoz
07-24-2011, 09:17 PM
Going down to what I listen more often...
Gran Turismo
FFVII
arthurgolden
07-25-2011, 09:39 PM
That ends Round 2 with Legend of Mana (3-2) and Final Fantasy VII (5-0) winning. And Legend of Mana is going right back into the fray�
Round 3, Fight 1

Chrono Cross by Yasunori Mitsuda (1999)
Time�s Scar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8), Star-Stealing Girl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoEMaWrQBQM), Ghost�s Island (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmvWxotH1I), Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLc1xnZPlvY), Garden of the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzrdbzKRFg)
vs.

Legend of Mana by Yoko Shimomura (1999)
Title Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBeMTXZ56XY ), World of Mana (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkSPMjSKAE ), Hometown Domina (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV5kpd6Swmk ), Moonlit City Roa (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QopZDjvj5g ), Nostalgic Song (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgWeKfyP2Ys )
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Round 3, Fight 2

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
vs.

Breath of Fire IV by Yoshino Aoki (2000)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0T8ACxq3o), Overworld (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-MJTU8JeZI), Yet the Merchants Will Go (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6RKoOqErWE), Prayer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcLMurlX8oI), A Raging Emperor's Banquet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noRxXKRDRsM)
My votes are for Chrono Cross and Vagrant Story. I really like Breath of Fire IV, but Vagrant Story is a classic. Maybe Sakimoto's best.
And now I'm onto a day of reading about NFL post-lockout rumors and drama.
topopoz
07-25-2011, 10:01 PM
Chrono Cross
Vagrant Story
Szczepan
07-25-2011, 10:24 PM
Chrono Cross
Vagrant Story
Link006
07-26-2011, 04:55 AM
Chrono Cross and Vagrant Story.
arthurgolden
07-27-2011, 07:38 PM
Easy wins for Chrono Cross (4-0) and Vagrant Story (4-0). Next up...
Round 3, Fight 3

Final Fantasy IX by Nobuo Uematsu (2000)
The Place I'll Return to Someday (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW3QK6CTg2g), Battle 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQgbTRbT8o), Crossing Those Hills (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOTJ-v8xnk), Darkness of Eternity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSi6_hbpo8), Bran Bal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai4mbIP4vbM)
vs.

Metal Gear Solid by Takanari Ishiyama, Gigi Meroni, Kazuki Muraoka, Lee Jeon Myung, Hiroyuki Togo, Maki Kirioka, Rika Muranaka, and Tappi Iwase (1998)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk), Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQRWJ7bIhs), Discovery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79a_5qM0h8), Mantis Hymn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMasLUmBzkc ), The Best Is Yet to Come (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g )
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Round 3, Fight 4

Tekken 3 by Nobuyoshi Sano, Keiichi Okabe, Hiroyuki Kawada, Minamo Takahashi, and Yu Miyake (1998)
Yoshimitsu (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-P7t3zPrNw), Hwoarang (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwXRXsB2us ), Lei Wulong (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FqSRISWu8k ), Jin Kazama (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLPL8cPQ-8 ), Nina Williams (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2CQ3HEcBbc )
vs.

Final Fantasy Tactics by Masaharu Iwata and Hitoshi Sakimoto (1997)
Character Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS7-dPzRWg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Attack Team (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f-dPf6PSU&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
My votes are for Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy Tactics.
Link006
07-28-2011, 03:50 AM
Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy Tactics.
topopoz
07-28-2011, 11:02 AM
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy Tactics
Szczepan
07-28-2011, 01:52 PM
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
aces4839
07-28-2011, 06:15 PM
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
arthurgolden
07-29-2011, 06:46 PM
We've got Metal Gear Solid (3-2) and Final Fantasy Tactics (5-0) moving on. Next up...
Round 3, Fight 5

Valkyrie Profile by Motoi Sakuraba (1999)
Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGv48GxLSI), The Joke Of Truth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpHDVr96i_0), To a World Becoming Impure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c92qyE3sISU), Unfinished Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7YbB9Zs1OY), Holy Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv2rUPvp644)
vs.

MediEvil by Andrew Barnabas and Paul Arnold (1998)
Cemetery Hill (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rklq4KouCv0), Scarecrow Fields (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUli62z2sY), Asylum Grounds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkhmnS5wvU), Crystal Caves (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI69AzFkWSw), Return To The Graveyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gmZzhP4Uw)
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Round 3, Fight 6

Treasures of the Deep by Tommy Tallarico (1997)
Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU00TZ27GF8), Bonaire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4B6kc_ifUg ), Puerto Rico Trench (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ES62nkJP_Y), Strait of Hormuz (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8M9vD6PGIc), Bermuda Triangle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAK_MIVdimw )
vs.

Final Fantasy VIII by Nobuo Uematsu (1999)
Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCa_B_A98I), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
My votes are for Valkyrie Profile and Final Fantasy VIII. I couldn't figure out how to vote on the first one for awhile. VP and Medievil are both great. And I was tempted to vote for Medievil because it was a career piece for Barnabas (who now, sadly, does music for stuff like Animal Cops: Miami and My Brother Is a Dog). But VP is what I listen to more often between the two. The second one was easy because FFVIII is my second favorite Final Fantasy soundtrack after VI.
topopoz
07-29-2011, 07:33 PM
MediEvil - This soundtrack is so important to me...
Final Fantasy VIII
aces4839
07-30-2011, 05:03 AM
Valkyrie Profile & Final Fantasy VIII
Szczepan
07-31-2011, 02:39 AM
MediEvil - pretty tough decision. Both of those soundtracks trigger nice memories:)
Final Fantasy VIII
Mercenary Raven
07-31-2011, 06:48 AM
Valkyrie Profile
Final Fantasy VIII
arthurgolden
07-31-2011, 07:57 PM
With Valkyrie Profile (3-2) and Final Fantasy VIII (5-0) winning, it's time for the final fight of Round 3...
Round 3, Fight 7

Suikoden II by Miki Higashino and Keiko Fukami (1998)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4d2R9vEXQ), Imprisoned Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6exvhdhIE8), Amid the Silence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80WuZ3I-YrQ), Two Rivers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJW7RvqW-bU), Gothic Neclord (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw)
vs.

Final Fantasy VII by Nobuo Uematsu (1997)
Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxKxCz9M4s), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxfCWaXYIo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqKWLkm2-g), Cid's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E)
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Round 3, Fight 8

Suikoden by Miki Higashino, Tappy Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
Beautiful Golden City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCME4Wxvj4k ), Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE ), Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8 ), Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I), Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk)
vs.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/xenogears0007.gif Xenogears by Yasunori Mitsuda (1998)
Wings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlF6TV1im0), Shebat the Wind Is Calling (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nMHsFOEZmo), Knight of Fire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vtYBIod9ak), June Mermaid (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYCmED_YDqs), Stage of Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEzW06O5kk4)
If ever there's been a test for the Suikoden soundtracks, this is it. I love them and I'll vote for them, but going against two other legit contenders to win the whole thing makes it tough. Are these the best four soundtracks in the rumble? Suikoden II and Suikoden for me.
We start the quarterfinals next.
topopoz
07-31-2011, 08:22 PM
Final Fantasy VII - I think the music of the 1st Suikoden was slightly superior compared to the music of it's sequel IMO...
Suikoden
Zetara22
07-31-2011, 09:24 PM
Suikoden II
Suikoden I
Szczepan
07-31-2011, 10:03 PM
Suikoden II - love this soundtrack a bit more than Suikoden I and while I like FFVII music, FFIX is my favorite
Xenogears - have to go with the more important soundtrack for me
aces4839
08-01-2011, 03:57 AM
Final Fantasy VII & Suikoden
Smarty
08-01-2011, 06:29 PM
Final Fantasy VII
Xenogears
Mercenary Raven
08-02-2011, 02:07 AM
Final Fantasy VII
Xenogears
arthurgolden
08-02-2011, 08:31 PM
Two close fights. But Final Fantasy VII (4-3) and Suikoden (4-3) came away with the wins. We've now got our final 8...
Quarterfinals, Fight 1

Metal Gear Solid by Takanari Ishiyama, Gigi Meroni, Kazuki Muraoka, Lee Jeon Myung, Hiroyuki Togo, Maki Kirioka, Rika Muranaka, and Tappi Iwase (1998)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk), Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQRWJ7bIhs), Discovery (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79a_5qM0h8), Mantis Hymn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMasLUmBzkc ), The Best Is Yet to Come (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g )
-----> Bonus (
http://books.google.com/books?id=8FXOveU4iYwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=metal+gear+solid&source=bl&ots=9IAjo9Bw8W&sig=YW0pImWPch-IgHW9kRdhqHWdCLo&hl=en&ei=ipH3S9e6CYSClAfsxrDECg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEgQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q&f=false): The novelization of Metal Gear Solid
vs.

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
-----> Bonus (
http://www.1up.com/features/ffxii-composer-interview): Sakimoto answers why his career hasn't been a dream come true
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Quarterfinals, Fight 2

Suikoden by Miki Higashino, Tappy Iwase, Hiroshi Tamawari, Hirofumi Taniguchi, and Mayuko Kageshita (1995)
Beautiful Golden City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCME4Wxvj4k ), Distant Mountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qlL8fvMcE ), Eternal Flow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNeOCMKU2V8 ), Rising Tide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2n6d5B0W2I), Forgotten Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOBwvbNz3Dk)
-----> Bonus (
http://mitsuda.cocoebiz.com/friends/higashino.html): Higashino reveals her favorite band
vs.

Final Fantasy Tactics by Masaharu Iwata and Hitoshi Sakimoto (1997)
Character Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS7-dPzRWg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Attack Team (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f-dPf6PSU&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
-----> Bonus (
http://www.rpgfan.com/features/interviews2005/index4.html): Sakimoto describes what he'd really like to work on
My votes are for Metal Gear Solid and Suikoden. MGS put an entire franchise on its shoulders, and the music was a big part of that. I just played MGS this past year and was so enthralled that I devoured every other part of the series. Within about two months, I watched playthroughs of every Metal Gear game and read everything I could about the story and composers. Consequently, the music, while often simple, has a big hold on me. As for Suikoden, I just beat it two days ago for probably the fifth time since 1996 when I first got it. The game and the music still have the same charm and beauty. I hate voting against Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics, but these games and their soundtracks truly represent the best of the PlayStation for me.
P.S. Welcome to Zetara22.
topopoz
08-02-2011, 08:56 PM
This is the most difficult battle that I could ever imagine... I think this another one of those that will boil down to what I listen more often...
While I agree that MGS put the Franchise on his shoulders, I kindly disagree regarding that the music did that. Now I love the music of the 1st MGS, it's the best one in the series in my opinion. But I don't listen much of that influence later on the series. Norihiko Hibino changed too much the style of music in the rest of the Series IMO. Give or Take every MGS games is themed on an specific subject. I don't think that Gregson Williams or Hibino Captured the correct impresion for the rest of the music in the series, at least not with the same accuracy that did Tappy Iwase and the rest of the team at the Konami Kuheiha Club. Just my point of view, I've played every MGS game several times, except for MGS4 and the Portable ones.
But even having said that, I've still haven't decided what I'll vote on that battle... Both games and soundtracks are equally important to me.
EDIT: I'll provide my votes later after some depth and profound analysis...
Smarty
08-03-2011, 05:46 PM
As a huge Sakimoto fan, a fan of MGS and with complete inexperience with Suikoden I can vote for the following without feeling too guilty:
Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy Tactics
Let me explain. Metal Gear Solid was and still is a phenomenal game. It was one of the first games to get stealth right, it had a complex and thought provoking story but not without heart and emotion. Vagrant is simply not as impressive. It had interesting combat, great story and atmosphere and I still think it's a great game just not on the level of Metal Gear Solid. But we're not voting for the games here, are we? The music was fitting and rather good but I personally wouldn't rate it as highly as other games in the series, especially 2, which was superior in my opinion, with great tracks in several different genres, using several different instruments. Vagrant Story on the other hand is varied, intense and one Sakimoto's best works. A perfect soundtrack for a great game. There's really nothing more to be said.
On the other battle there isn't as much to be said. I haven't played any Suikoden game and while I do think the music is great, it didn't make as much of an impact to me personally as FFT's music, which is why I'm voting for the latter.
aces4839
08-04-2011, 06:26 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
arthurgolden
08-04-2011, 07:18 PM
I'm going to let this go another day because of the outage last night.
Mercenary Raven
08-04-2011, 11:00 PM
I can't choose between Vagrant and MGS T_T can I just wait until a hypothetical tiebreaker and vote then?? Actually, i'll just go with Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy Tactics
topopoz
08-05-2011, 02:39 AM
After some analysis, I've reached to the conclusion that I can't vote against any of those soundtracks with valid reasons at all. My love for the music of those games is indescribable.
So My votes are Vagrant Story. It's the Magnum Opus of probably my fauvorite VGM Composer, The game represents as the best entry on the Ivalice games taking risks of a lot of things in it's development and execution, and it's overlooked by many people. Love it or Hate it, Vagrant Story from an artistical standpoint it's one of the most ambitious titles out there, and it is the most ambitious title released that year, as it is the music in my opinion, this was in the days that Square led some freedom to it's developers to make their own stuff, without paying attention to marketing strategies, Vagrant Story was almost an intentional Cult title. Triggers a lot of amazing memories, just as Metal Gear did for me when a was a boy, playing the Demo, mesmerized by the Voice Acting, Gameplay, Music and Storyline. Vagrant Story did the same for me, Mesmerizing me for it's artistical crafting and execution of every element, not just the music. And I could give an analyisis of every scene with the track sounding. And listen to the track only and be amazed by the creative effort putted on this Soundtrack.
The other goes for Suikoden and I vote this one instead of FFT because of the reason you Arthur voted MGS. It's the title that put the franchise on shoulders.
This rumble is fucking amazing, provoking me moral breakdowns xD. And I'm still sad about the 1st battle.
Szczepan
08-05-2011, 03:47 AM
Vagrant Story - feeling pretty much the same about this game and it's music as topopoz, so don't want to repeat it ( yeah, right... too lazy and tired to type smth longer that would make sense xD )
Suikoden - LUNASA ! LUNASA ! ! LUNASA ! ! ! hehe xD Seriously, I have to check this band. Cool bonuses you gave there, Arthur:)
arthurgolden
08-05-2011, 07:17 PM
We've got a tie between Suikoden and Final Fantasy Tactics. Anyone want to break it?
While I agree that MGS put the Franchise on his shoulders, I kindly disagree regarding that the music did that. Now I love the music of the 1st MGS, it's the best one in the series in my opinion. But I don't listen much of that influence later on the series.
Interesting point. I agree with you now that you've got me thinking about it. However, I would say that if "The Best Is Yet to Come" wasn't on the soundtrack, the game never would have had the necessary emotional payoff to make gamers froth at the mouth for the second MGS. The silly, wishy-washy, overly explanatory, almost unforgivable conversation between Meryl and Snake is so cheesy that without a truly great song to close things out, the last impression people would have had of the game would have been the involuntary desire to throw it across the room. Instead, MGS has, in my mind, one of the greatest endings in all of video games because of what happens after Snake and Meryl's final conversation. The combination of images and song, delivering the game's message in a much simpler, more powerful, and indirect way, hit me like a gut-punch.
The music was fitting and rather good but I personally wouldn't rate it as highly as other games in the series, especially 2, which was superior in my opinion, with great tracks in several different genres, using several different instruments.
No argument there. When we did the Metal Gear rumble way back, MGS2 gave all of the other games a run for their money with its Main Theme, Electronic Emma, Fortune, and Can't Say Goodbye to Yesterday.
Can I just wait until a hypothetical tiebreaker and vote then??
Haha. Well, one has come--just on a different fight. Someone who hasn't voted yet hopefully will resolve that.
After some analysis, I've reached the conclusion that I can't vote against any of those soundtracks with valid reasons at all. My love for the music of those games is indescribable...this was in the days that Square led some freedom to it's developers to make their own stuff, without paying attention to marketing strategies, Vagrant Story was almost an intentional Cult title.
I hear ya. That's a great point about Vagrant Story, too.
( yeah, right... too lazy and tired to type smth longer that would make sense xD )
Hahaha. Glad you liked the bonuses. :D
EDIT: I had a nagging feeling that I'd heard Lunasa before. Lo and behold, our old buddy Shad posted about them in the VGM Trivia thread a year and a half ago with a YouTube link (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/video-game-music-trivia-66197/2.html#post1452482).
And while we're on the topic, whatever happened to Shad? Anybody talk to him?
aces4839
08-05-2011, 07:29 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
arthurgolden
08-05-2011, 07:45 PM
You already voted, aces.
aces4839
08-05-2011, 07:47 PM
oh. oh, well. figured i'd try, anyway.
topopoz
08-05-2011, 09:57 PM
Interesting point. I agree with you now that you've got me thinking about it. However, I would say that if "The Best Is Yet to Come" wasn't on the soundtrack, the game never would have had the necessary emotional payoff to make gamers froth at the mouth for the second MGS. The silly, wishy-washy, overly explanatory, almost unforgivable conversation between Meryl and Snake is so cheesy that without a truly great song to close things out, the last impression people would have had of the game would have been the involuntary desire to throw it across the room. Instead, MGS has, in my mind, one of the greatest endings in all of video games because of what happens after Snake and Meryl's final conversation. The combination of images and song, delivering the game's message in a much simpler, more powerful, and indirect way, hit me like a gut-punch.
The Best Is Yet to Come is IMO the real Main Theme of Metal Gear Solid. It captures every nature of every character and every detail in the storyline. I've never seen a Vocal Track so well used in any game in my life. That's for real.
And while we're on the topic, whatever happened to Shad? Anybody talk to him?
Consider that the forum went down and back again many many times in the last few months/year. And there was a certain time that this forum was down for more than a week or two, Probably more.
I've noticed that many people never came back since that Incident. And Shad only visited for the most part only the Music Related threads.
Smarty
08-06-2011, 08:32 AM
By the way, I joined the facebook group of the shrine but I can't find you guys because I don't know your names :p Care to enlighten me? It'd be a shame if we couldn't stay in touch in case the forums permanently go down.
arthurgolden
08-10-2011, 06:11 AM
Sorry for the delay! I had to travel this weekend and thought I'd have internet access, which I didn't. Just got back this evening. A couple things...
@topopoz: What's weird is that Shad still regularly logs in. He just doesn't post anymore. :-( I guess he stopped talking to people after the forum outage.
@Smarty: I'm sending you a PM. I'd also like to stay in touch in case the forum goes down permanently. I'd be happy to keep in touch with all of you. If you want, shoot me a PM.
Regarding the tie: rather than flip a coin with so much at stake, I'm going to borrow a trick Agent0042 does in these situations. To determine the winner, he sees which soundtrack had the bigger percentage of votes in all of its previous rounds.
This is what those numbers look like:
Suikoden
Round 1 --- 5-1
Round 2 --- 6-0
Round 3 --- 4-3
Round 4 --- 3-3
That means that Suikoden got 18 out of a total of 25 votes--72%.
FF Tactics
Round 1 --- 6-0
Round 2 --- 5-0
Round 3 --- 5-0
Round 4 --- 3-3
That means that FFT got 19 out of a total of 22 votes--86%. You'll notice it has also blown out its competitors in every round but this one.
Consequently, Final Fantasy Tactics is the winner by tie-breaker. It'll join Vagrant Story (4-1) in the next round.
Next fights to be posted in a little while.
---------- Post added 08-10-2011 at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was 08-09-2011 at 11:36 PM ----------
Here we go. The final fights of the quarterfinals...
Quarterfinals, Fight 3

Chrono Cross by Yasunori Mitsuda (1999)
Time�s Scar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8), Star-Stealing Girl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoEMaWrQBQM), Ghost�s Island (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmvWxotH1I), Gale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLc1xnZPlvY), Garden of the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBzrdbzKRFg)
-----> Bonus (
http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/6737/chrono-cross-development-team-interview-part-1/): The original intention was to have 64 characters
vs.

Final Fantasy VIII by Nobuo Uematsu (1999)
Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCa_B_A98I), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
-----> Bonus (
http://music.ign.com/articles/741/741101p1.html): Why there weren�t more character themes in the game
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Quarterfinals, Fight 4

Final Fantasy VII by Nobuo Uematsu (1997)
Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxKxCz9M4s), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxfCWaXYIo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqKWLkm2-g), Cid's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E)
-----> Bonus (
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/793/793956p1.html): The hot-blooded, hard-boiled FFVII
vs.

Valkyrie Profile by Motoi Sakuraba (1999)
Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGv48GxLSI), The Joke Of Truth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpHDVr96i_0), To a World Becoming Impure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c92qyE3sISU), Unfinished Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7YbB9Zs1OY), Holy Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv2rUPvp644)
-----> Bonus (

): Crushed velvet is always in fashion as far as Sakuraba is concerned
My votes are for Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy VII. Brutal fight to start. You have two soundtracks that aren�t just good, but two soundtracks that stand as some of the peak achievements for these two composers. And these two composers are Mitsuda and Uematsu�two of the greatest vgm composers ever. So, how the hell do you decide one or the other? For me, it came down to two lists, quantifying how many truly excellent songs came from each soundtrack. That meant, for me, it was Time�s Scar, Time�s Grasslands, Ghost�s Island, Garden of the Gods, and Star-Stealing Girl (5) versus Liberi Fatali, Balamb Garden, Breezy, Blue Fields, Maybe I�m a Lion, and The Spy (6), giving FFVIII the slight edge. But that�s just how I feel right now. I could see numerous counterarguments for Chrono Cross, and on another day I might have voted for it. Tough fight. The second one...not so much. Valkyrie Profile is good, but FFVII is legendary.
Smarty
08-10-2011, 07:30 AM
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy VII
As a whole, I'd say FFVIII is better than Chrono Cross, despite the latter having boasting some of the best music in the history of video games. Time's Scar in particular.
Mercenary Raven
08-10-2011, 09:10 AM
Final Fantasy VIII because guess which one I didn't give up on halfway through :D FF8's feel more contextual/moody to me, whereas Cross just sounds melodic and nothing else. Probably because I felt absolutely nothing for Cross.
Final Fantasy VII, I've actually beaten that one too, and some of the tracks on the OST are very well done (except One Winged Angel).
topopoz
08-10-2011, 10:46 AM
I gotta go with Chrono Cross. I do not consider FFVIII as the peak of Uematsu's Career. Although I'll admit VIII has one of the greatest music. Some songs haven't worked well for the game IMO, such as Rivals and some others. What really helped the music of VIII to be great was the Roland Synth he used and the sound itself, compared to VII the quality of sound it's a lot different.
Chrono Cross on the other hand it is and it always be IMO the best work of Yasunori Mitusda and it's very easy to fall and to appreciate the music of this game. The instrument selection is superb and the quality of melodies and harmonies are captivating, all in all. Amazing
The other goes for Final Fantasy VII, because Valkyrie Profile, has some Sakuraba type of tracks that I don't like. And of course because I love the music of VII.
Link006
08-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Chrono Cross, Valkyrie Profile.
Szczepan
08-11-2011, 04:39 PM
Chrono Cross definitely. FFVIII is great, but CC feels like something more than music. It's essence of emotions. Something that gives goosebumps when listening.
Final Fantasy VII is better overall, but VP is a very solid soundtrack as well.
aces4839
08-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Final Fantasy VIII & Final Fantasy VII
topopoz
08-12-2011, 05:13 PM
Weird, and there was I thinking that Chrono Cross would result as the winner of this whole rumble.
arthurgolden
08-14-2011, 06:30 PM
All right folks. We�ve got our winners: Final Fantasy VIII (4-3) and Final Fantasy VII (6-1). On to the semifinals�
Semifinals, Fight 1

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
-----> Full soundtrack (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC7FA53EBA99B515E)
Here is Sakimoto forcefully staking his claim as a major composer unto himself, without Iwata's help. It's a smooth transition from Tactics in terms of mood and instrumentation. But the compositions have several qualities to intensify what Sakimoto had previously accomplished. The density of the strings, chimes, brass, and woodwinds working together, coupled with the slow and sometimes subtle development of the melodies, gives the soundtrack a muddy, sleepy feel that was not common in video game music. Equally surprising are the moments when the music gearshifts suddenly into industrial breakbeats, echoing rim shots, and Twilight Zone-inspired synth lines, only to drop out into gorgeous plucked arpeggios or a wash of violins resolving the music's aggression. This soundtrack is forceful, dark, often militaristic, but also quite beautiful. Maybe because of that, Sakimoto is still intriguing. After all these years, there�s an air of mystique and experimentation that still seeps into every soundtrack he contributes to, be it a surprising harp glissando in the middle of an electronic piece, a Vangelis bass line in the middle of a flute solo, or a mournful trumpet rising out of a battle theme. He has the skills to make complex music accessible to a wide audience, and does so here maybe better than on any other soundtrack he composed.
vs.

Final Fantasy VII by Nobuo Uematsu (1997)
Still More Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSxKxCz9M4s), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhxfCWaXYIo), One-Winged Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU), Aerith's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqKWLkm2-g), Cid's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E)
-----> Full soundtrack (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL77D98F68F6DBB35D)
You blow up the reactor, defend yourself against the president, escape the Turks with Aeris, become a prostitute, watch as an entire area of your city is destroyed, climb out of the ruins, sneak into Shinra HQ, find everyone dead, fight your way out, finally leave Midgar, and get to the open-exploration part of the game where you�re usually rewarded with a big, boisterous main theme. And what do you get? A lethargic, almost dirge-like, sweep of strings. If you raced, you�ve only only taken two hours to get to this point. But more likely it�s been three or four, and the tone is set for the rest of the game: darkness and futility. Consider the main themes of Final Fantasy I (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lViSeukzQOQ), II (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xktPLOC6e6Y), III (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vDlAJWSEIg), IV (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKqFz5IZSvM), V (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ej58BlDwM), and VI (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RPY-oiDAQ) and you can see the difference. Even in the slower themes before this game, there was a steady and prominent bass keeping things moving. In contrast, the hopefulness in VII�s music (like when it takes a romantic turn around the :52 mark) is still couched in sadness. As you�re walking across the dark, often barren, industrial landscape, it�s hard to feel optimistic about your mission, visiting towns (Costa Del Sol and the Gold Saucer aside) with themes equally slow, sleepy, and/or melancholy. However, it's easy to be enthralled by what may be Uematsu�s most consistent soundtrack, maintaining its mood and instrumentation for the entire game. And because of that, as the game designer's intended, there is an overriding feeling of light emerging from vast darkness.
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Semifinals, Fight 2

Final Fantasy Tactics by Masaharu Iwata and Hitoshi Sakimoto (1997)
Character Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS7-dPzRWg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Attack Team (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-f-dPf6PSU&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
-----> Full soundtrack (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL199E3C72F464C304)
How hard is it to believe that this soundtrack is just one console removed from the SNES and Genesis? From the opening track, you can hear the difference in every aspect of the music: in the quality of the synths, the range and flexibility of the instruments, the concert-hall echo on the piano, and the very manner in which the melody is developed. Gone are the emphases on melodic immediacy and the limitations of sub-minute loops from the previous generation. This is Sakimoto and Iwata bringing video game music into high art with jabbing strings, snare rolls, electronic drums, trumpets blaring and trashcan lids shattering, some pieces rocking enough to shake the blood loose from your ears. Then there are moments of austere beauty like the relaxed, pokey trumpet melody in Attack Team or the pizzicato/harp-driven Hero�s Theme or the plodding Algus or the slippery bowing of Warrior�s Hideout. It's what we've come to expect from Sakimoto and Iwata, with all the hallmarks of their earlier output, exemplified particularly well on Ogre Battle's soundtrack. Except here it's done with a gentler touch, an eye towards subtlety. I tend to like the soporific, string-heavy tracks, but there�s a diverse selection, from the rousting marches to the placid church hymns, that lend a sense of grandeur to the affair and make this one of the great soundtracks of the PlayStation era.
vs.

Final Fantasy VIII by Nobuo Uematsu (1999)
Liberi Fatali (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5f_VBd_17M), Balamb Garden (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eU0tRBHnE0), The Extreme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA), Silence and Motion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCa_B_A98I), The Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw)
-----> Full soundtrack (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL294020FE0E62D993)
It�s hard not to hear this soundtrack as a reaction to VII and, in fact, the designers of VIII have said that the game from top to bottom was meant to be brighter and fresher than its predecessor. There are connections between the two�Liberi Fatali as One-Winged Angel 2.0, Roses and Wine as Aerith�s Theme 2.0, the fight songs as variations of the guitar-driven techno fight songs of VII�but there is also a lighthearted, carefree attitude in many of the pieces like Balamb Garden and Breezy that are meant to reflect a school days kind of atmosphere, and succeed, I think. In terms of Uematsu�s entire catalog, it seems he might have been reaching back towards the goofiness of FFIV�s Mystic Mysidia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtdCcviYl4) with tracks like Silence and Motion and Residents and the multipart baroque Dancing Mad from FFVI with The Castle, while also looking forward with the harpsichord Edea pieces, the orchestral arrangements (his first), and, of course, Eyes on Me�a type of song that, for better or worse, continues to be a staple of Final Fantasy ending music. Therefore, VIII represents a synthesis of much of his previous work, as IX was, and equally a sign of things to come, too. Its emphasis is on reflecting a variety of moods and locations, and it does that well. And like VII, it contains several classic Uematsu pieces that work beautifully in the context of the game and sound beautiful outside of that context, too.
All those admirable qualities aside, though, we gotta choose the best two. My votes are for Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy VIII.
Szczepan
08-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy Tactics
Actually not such a tough choices for me. Some earlier battles were so much tougher than that.
topopoz
08-14-2011, 08:20 PM
The first battle is hard for me... Final Fantasy VII, is a game that I love even today and so does the music, The Main Theme, I still consider it as the best out of all the series. With a simple melody such as "Do, Re, Mi, Si, La, Do, Re Mi, Sol, Fa, Do, Re, Do" varied and harmonized through out all the songs of that soundtrack, the Main Theme shows the culmination of what you can do with a simple melody such as that.
And then I have Vagrant Story, a game that I love as well. It wasn't love at first sight though. This is one of those that you need to put yourself into it and understand every little detail to understand it. It certainly wasn't thought out to appeal people, it was thought out in a more personal way. The Creative Team involved, working together, thinking of what they can bring to table to make this their ultimate and most ambitious title in every aspect they can think of with the tools they have at disposal.
That's how I Imagine the Development of this title. And I Imagine Sakimoto given the freedom to offer what he can do best at his compositions.
You'll encounter terribly simple scores on this soundtrack, such as "Catacomb", simple and kinda uninspired some people will say, I say for it's objective it works superb, It's Gloom, dark, atmospheric, it transports you there and you are helpless, you're not enjoying your trip there, you are fighting through it, staying alive, undead creatures surround you trying to rip your guts off, you're in touch with the unknown and you're trying to discover what's causing all this, getting to know yourself in all that solitude and thus your quest starts.
And then you will find such complex and varied tracks that are made use of to follow a cutscene, such as those we have Graylands Incident Climax. A composition with 11 to 13 minutes long, the title speaks to you what kind of music you'll expect here. You are experiencing the music that plays during an Incident, that reach to it's Climax.
A burning place, where treason and deceit are the protagonists. The clash between two separate forces, with the intervention of a 3rd force that comes to mediate the situation, yet things are out of control, it presents us who will unravel all this out, with an enforcing and hopeful fanfare. With every intersection speaking to our ears the desperation and axiety of the human beings involved, speaking it's character every single soul. It then follows a tension moment, members of their own forces discusing with each other, things are getting out of control. This soul manages to infiltrate, a clash takes place, things appear to be over, yet the music tells us something else suddenly things got kinectic and frantic. It slows down, cue the Timpani, feels like walls are crumbling down a Titanic sound yet, where's the Titan?. Show more respect for fairy tales and then the entity makes it's appearance, we reached the Climax, the borders of reality and fiction are now bonded together in climatic battle.
At the end of this battle everything now calms, as we feel that we walk to just the door of our new Quest, the sun shines bright and an insipiring breeze cools all our senses, the bells are ringing, the French Horn and Trumpets gives us a sign, the strings reach a crescendo and then it concludes with a fine orchestral hit.
Vagrant Story
O.O
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For FFT and FFVIII is still a hard one for me. I've never thought that the music of VIII accomplished much for the game that it accomplished much more to the composer rather than the whole product.
VIII's music is easy to fall for, the timbre of the synth used on this soundtrack is very close to actual instruments, the melodies are more refined and tender. They feel much more Real and less dreamful or overly tragic/emotional compared the previous works of Uematsu.
Having it's share of Natural and Nostalgic sound, Uematsu managed to balance his "Rock" onto the classical pieces.
I'm going to repeat myself here, but I've never feel that the music spoke much for the game, it spoke a lot more personally. Probably that's what our composer tried to achieve. As he said that this soundtrack didn't felt the need of Character songs, because he considered them not to be important to the storytelling of the game, yet IMO that's completely the opposite of that the game's story tried to work out.
And the result was interesting, but somethings didn't matched or felt completely out of place, such is the case of the "Rivals" track and "Eyes on Me", the moment were the track is played felt so out of place, that it actually worked better on the Ending Theme. IMO
Final Fantasy Tactics on the other hand is another weird one, because I do love the music and there's no moment that feels bad or out of place.
But from another point of view FFT could be considered as Tactics Ogre 2.0, or the more light-hearted and dreamful version of Tactics Ogre.
Sure there are many melodies that feel rather different, but both have a share of similarities that can be fairly recognizable.
It's hard to me to come with a satisfying conclusion to this 2nd battle.
I'll vote for Final Fantasy VIII, because it has a more interesting background in the terms of the Creative Process of the music.
Smarty
08-14-2011, 09:28 PM
Vagrant Story
Final Fantasy VIII The second battle was kind of difficult. I don't admire FFVII all that much so the first battle was a cinch for me.
aces4839
08-15-2011, 04:15 AM
golly. the best of the best. anyway, Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VIII.
arthurgolden
08-17-2011, 10:14 PM
This is what it all comes down to. Sakimoto vs. Uematsu. The pictures link to the full soundtracks.
Final Round

(
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL294020FE0E62D993)
vs.

(
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC7FA53EBA99B515E)
My vote is for Final Fantasy VIII.
This was a tough one. It came down to the fact that I love Final Fantasy VIII's soundtrack. I appreciate Vagrant Story. I enjoy listening to it. I think it's the more consistent soundtrack, and the one that's better suited to the mood and style of its game. But I don't relish each song the way I do with Final Fantasy VIII. I don't enjoy it on the same level. Either way the votes go, though, we'll have a deserving winner.
Smarty
08-17-2011, 11:01 PM
I'd say I appreciate both soundtracks equally (more or less anyway) but I really would like to see Vagrant Story pull the win here.
topopoz
08-18-2011, 01:28 AM
I like this Final Battle...
Vagrant Story - I've made myself clear about what I think about FFVIII's Music.
But I've never feel myself that I'm clear to what I think about Vagrant Story's Music.
I may attempt to describe what i think of every single track like I did up there for those 2 Tracks, I've mainly did that analysis to make a contrast of a very few of the things that you can find on this soundtrack. But I never feel that it's enough.
The review made by "Jormungad" on this website Chudah's Corner - Reviews (
http://chudahs-corner.com/reviews/index.php?catalog=SSCX-10042). It's the only thing that I read in the whole internet that comes close to what I feel when I listen to this music.
I'll probably add more thoughts and perspective into this post later. Right now I'm very tired...
Mercenary Raven
08-18-2011, 01:45 AM
Final Fantasy VIII
aces4839
08-18-2011, 05:37 AM
Final Fantasy VIII
Szczepan
08-18-2011, 06:44 PM
Vagrant Story
Link006
08-19-2011, 03:00 PM
Vagrant Story for me.
arthurgolden
08-21-2011, 10:45 PM
And the winner of the PlayStation Soundtracks battle is�
Vagrant Story (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC7FA53EBA99B515E)!
by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Here is Sakimoto forcefully staking his claim as a major composer. It's a smooth transition from Tactics in terms of mood and instrumentation. But the compositions have several qualities to intensify what Sakimoto had previously accomplished. The density of the strings, chimes, brass, and woodwinds working together, coupled with the slow and sometimes subtle development of the melodies, gives the soundtrack a muddy, sleepy feel that was not common in video game music. Equally surprising are the moments when the music gearshifts suddenly into industrial breakbeats, echoing rim shots, and Twilight Zone-inspired synth lines, only to drop out into gorgeous plucked arpeggios or a wash of violins resolving the music's aggression. This soundtrack is forceful, dark, often militaristic, but also quite beautiful. Because of that, there�s an air of mystique and experimentation that seeps into this and every subsequent soundtrack Sakimoto has contributed to, whether it takes the form of a surprising harp glissando in the middle of an electronic piece, a Vangelis bass line in the middle of a flute solo, or a mournful trumpet rising out of a battle theme. He has the skills to make complex music accessible to a wide audience, and does so here maybe better than on any other soundtrack he has composed.
Bonus: Sakimoto answers why his career hasn't (
http://www.1up.com/features/ffxii-composer-interview) been a dream come true
Bonus 2: A review (
http://chudahs-corner.com/reviews/index.php?catalog=SSCX-10042) of the soundtrack
Record: 3-1, 4-1, 4-0, 4-1, 4-1, 4-3
Well, that was another great battle. Thanks to all of you who voted! I hope you enjoyed it.
We�ll vote on the next battle(s) very soon.
Just a reminder: if you have an idea for a theme that you�d like to do, post it on our group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20), where you can also see and make suggestions on the themes we�ve already worked on.
Bonus pictures:

Smarty
08-21-2011, 11:15 PM
Can we pleeeeeeease do PS2 already...?
Link006
08-21-2011, 11:17 PM
Ugh; not another PlayStation rumble. ><
arthurgolden
08-23-2011, 06:25 AM
PS2 has definitely waited its turn. But since that doesn't appeal to everyone, how would you all feel about doing two at a time again? The Sakimoto rumble is also ready to go.
Composers, Zelda, and Final Fantasy are all still in the works (as best as I can tell).
More details about each rumble can be found here (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?groupid=20).
Here's the list in chronological order...
1) The Best of the PS2 � 64 soundtracks - Started June 2010 [ready]
2) The Best of Hitoshi Sakimoto � 16 soundtracks - Started December 2010 [ready]
3) The Composers Rumble � 64 composers - Started December 2010 [not ready]
4) The Best of The Legend of Zelda � 64/128 songs - Started February 2011 [not ready]
5) The Best of Final Fantasy � 64/128 songs - Started February 2011 [abandoned?]
topopoz
08-23-2011, 11:18 AM
I'm very happy with the Winner of this Rumble ^^
Quite frankly I was going to get a little sad to see another Uematsu soundtrack as the winner of another rumble.
Regarding the next rumble...
Well, let's go with the obvious choice. PS2 and Sakimoto.
To be honest though I'm not excited about PS2. And the Composers Rumble is not ready.
Szczepan
08-23-2011, 03:31 PM
how would you all feel about doing two at a time again?
I'm all for it:)
Also very pleased with the result, as well:) Surely VS well deserved it.
Link006
08-24-2011, 02:28 AM
Wouldn't mind two; wish there was something else to pick other than PlayStation but it looks like PS2/Sakimoto will have to suffice. Can't see another rumble that is ready.
arthurgolden
08-28-2011, 05:45 PM
Hey guys. Sorry I'm moving slow. I've got a new schedule that's much more intense than my previous one. It sounds like we're ready to do PS2 and Sakimoto, but let's double-check the song/soundtrack selections before we get started. Make sure your favorite song/soundtracks are on there. I don't want anybody to feel like something important was left off.
We'll start with the Sakimoto soundtracks. Here's (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitoshi_Sakimoto) his discography from Wikipedia for comparison.
1. ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat (
http://vgmdb.net/album/4598) (w/ Iwata)
The Battle with History (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVNaH-g3-8), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi86IMajy3I), Ashen Soldier (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRixB2oTDn8), Bullnequ's Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZlyA-XWoCU), Millinear Kingdom (click #2) (
http://bit.ly/lboxxE)
2. Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter (
http://vgmdb.net/album/712)
Lift (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9I-rQQxi7s), Lifeline (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0_CZmz1LA), Far Cry (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpSJmyxESxg), Kind Friends (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnd69gTZlEg), Electric Power Building (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksX_ISV5q0) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL0772E34775C81D9E))
3. Devilish (
http://project2612.org/details.php?id=52)
Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrxRUDAoUVI), Graveyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOJr2Dn6GQ), Clock Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-FMsdT7f0), Air Passage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrsxKsE7Ro), Seaside (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5R1yT1Al7s) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/user/PsychOut1#g/c/F4D54BF481F17672))
4. Final Fantasy Tactics (
http://vgmdb.net/album/26) (w/ Iwata)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ivgHaQ32xk), Trisection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVrQv36YFgg), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l976LCSuB4))
5. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (
http://vgmdb.net/album/17) (w/ Ayako Saso, Kaori Oukoshi, & Uematsu)
Comrades (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGI4g9ppbhM), Walking in Ivalice (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHLCtudnNdI), Monster Farm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH0gXUPyZQs), Incarnation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbgWXgVLF9A), Snow in the Schoolyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmyIAtHA6k) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PLD0DE80446717B559))
6. Final Fantasy XII (
http://vgmdb.net/album/15267) (w/ Iwata, Matsuo, & Uematsu)
Rabanastre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0IJPV-8PY), Esper Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COG3R3Km-Zk), Signs of Change (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzi7myyotYY), To The Place of Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79uOLby7H8), The Sky Fortress Bahamut (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOehlpV_G8c)
7. Gradius V (
http://vgmdb.net/album/273)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeITEr5-Ds), Universe (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDS-T2E_Lg), Boss (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5LglFwgDto), Cell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7UNmskEg-A), Battleship (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgPwhLPHfKg) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeITEr5-Ds&feature=PlayList&p=2DF473A1136666B3&index=0))
8. Legaia 2: Duel Saga (
http://vgmdb.net/album/2410) (w/ Mitsuda and Oshima)
Black Sun (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdKQl5Jbh_8), Pirate's Pride (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CVU7G6N7c), Lost Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUz3z3AAsc), Mark of the Vanquished (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1WypQuTv4), Everyday Tranquility (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A09yrke-RbY) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PLB67D0FB1FE585B9A))
9. Odin Sphere (
http://vgmdb.net/album/4599) (w/ many others)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcBN0tmdpA), Study Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUt0Lm-N150), Restaurant (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1iuMZMsxA), Trial (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLrE8dlsrQE), A Fate Accepted (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUEhGkh08Tg) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UerzZBsP0bM&feature=PlayList&p=7E0F6EFCB7909464&index=0))
10. Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen (
http://vgmdb.net/album/204) (only did 6 tracks; replace w/ something else?)
Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq4LGNGd5ik), Fortune Teller (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxt0DmUbPE4), Revolt (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEj-DIb1FU0), White Storm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CYBnusycE), Neo-Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HycdTU93u-0)
11. Radiant Silvergun (
http://vgmdb.net/album/2156)
Ruin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUfJj04uDFY), Return (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9aCnQcM_EI), Penta (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdxRBDidSy8), Debris (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cue-OP0iE7Q), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUp2P5cDNJE)
12. Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity (
http://vgmdb.net/album/2131) (w/ Iwata)
Alchemy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomwnxyxosk), Prince of a Ruined Country (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFXolGbDqVk), Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KltPcMIUMJU), Heroine's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2fLVIMAUE), Holy Spirit (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB5b2NZmBO8) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/user/blazerkane#g/u))
13. Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (
http://vgmdb.net/album/1684) (w/ Iwata)
Chapter A (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGWRQ5Hd9WE), Three Kings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXG7DlV27u8), Limitation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-jtpi4WBs), Passing Moment (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdVyOBHlx6c), Avilla Henya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQTQ_LeuGI) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PLC4756B3B6D7AE731))
14. Treasure Hunter G (
http://vgmdb.net/album/1989) (w/ many others)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0W9Se92dU), Load File (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrNMI8PDkg), Hamarira (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLwQhFRyJc), Demi-Human Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ueBwcpfAGk), Emperor of Balladry (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-iM7bxm6o) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/user/SinnerFalcon#g/c/DECB92EAE734A7CE))
15. Vagrant Story (
http://vgmdb.net/album/307)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl62OvnBc_Q))
16. Valkyria Chronicles (
http://vgmdb.net/album/7796) (w/ Kawaguchi)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDlIEhLozDg), Hard Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLW3Gh5bIXI), Beautiful Gallia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKa4yK-IQCY), Street Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Se7Aw32gE), Valkyria's Awakening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DWwCWViZi0) (others (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL9D4813964A37A691))
Smarty
08-28-2011, 06:04 PM
Sakimoto looks great to me. I keep checking PS2 over and over to make sure there's nothing missing, especially not something as important as that last glaring omission. So far so good.
arthurgolden
08-31-2011, 05:16 AM
Here's the PS2 list. Let me know if it looks okay. We'll start soon.
Arcana Heart - Fantasyland (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfFaL42rOU&list=PLC5C10935C3BC2D28), Poolside Dynamite! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHIF-XBleok&list=PLC5C10935C3BC2D28), Moonlight Nocturne (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZteVs8xHog&list=PLC5C10935C3BC2D28), A Peaceful Life (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqFL103N50E&list=PLC5C10935C3BC2D28), Save a Future (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaMit9WG4iM&list=PLC5C10935C3BC2D28)
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm - Rain of Blossoms (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55dqwrlTxD0), Things Thought Alone (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVnEofmN2CQ), Town of Water (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0JYjOb34wQ), Crash (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ti5GXo82qA), Breath of Beast (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZtPyVzeD3c)
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance - Elfsong (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDZUZKhwRE), Orb of the Undead (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V289NMuyAWk), Eldrith (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq-eJ9M2OIM), Mining Camp (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcKt2cO7wE), Onyx Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9HTwfb6uFc)
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2 - The Trade Way (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDc2Wni5L_c), Karnac The Butcher (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrthxFJQRBA), Mausoleum (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpAP4ShhcS8), Randalla Brasshorn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsYw9jWNBYs), Boss Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9icd9u6D9c)
Beyond Good And Evil - Hyllian Suite (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2prV0pLxv4), Home Sweet Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTdcJWDNsao), First Encounter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZHqh19LQdo), Spanish Bar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrIRahS81A), Matrix Course (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0R8Wr6VmVQ)
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter - Lift (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9I-rQQxi7s), Lifeline (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0_CZmz1LA), Far Cry (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpSJmyxESxg), Kind Friends (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnd69gTZlEg), Electric Power Building (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksX_ISV5q0)
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness - Abandoned Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffPnifaj-lA), Baljhet Mountains (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4C_hrfK5GM), Cordova Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKosEU7_lQ0), Mortvia Fountain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5BZKMlqbPI), Forest of Jigramunt (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn73kwvGBWI)
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence - Anti-Soul Mysteries Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0UTM-IzjM), House of Sacred Remains (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxyFFzmIpTI), Dark Palace of Water (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9e7SW7wdK4), Aria of Nightmare (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrT-dsDaIWA), Prison of Eternal Torture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDzt2cpj8Do)
Devil May Cry - Ultra Violet (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xzh0eD0jJ4), Pubic Enemy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgdITDtfhXA), Destroyer of Ardo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgFWd39Ccvc), Flock Off! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=981SHOEcmZ4), S (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4T1bfTB9c)
Devil May Cry 3 - Now You've Really Crossed The Line (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9euq6kJL_A), Devils Never Cry (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xti_6Bzpa8A), Suffer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLqXkpVGBrc), Vergil 1 Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSvIPWVyjU), Demon World (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOw1ZnyXWwc)
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 3 - Make A New Legend (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCaqgx4O53g), Twist of Fate (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xU9Qvm390I), Daybreak Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98UXJ-Dn-X0), Night of Tempest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUX_nmF7riM), Embrace The Blue Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47w0YzktIho)
Dragon Quest VIII - Heavenly Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCbS3wtqxeM), Great Battle In The Vast Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VkVnwfLsiw), Mysterious Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOHAFBxVv4w), Strange World (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5coKpnqqAbI), Remembrances... (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2WwTk1Z_4)
Final Fantasy X - To Zanarkand (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0G_FI61a8), Assault (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osajnmj2msU), Silence Before The Storm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHw2V0C-D-o), A Fleeting Dream (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAFi88J5Aw), Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTxqsTfDgC4)
Final Fantasy XII - The Royal City of Rabanastre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0IJPV-8PY), Esper Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COG3R3Km-Zk), The Forgotten Capital (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVoEKWckLz0), To The Place of Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79uOLby7H8), The Sky Fortress Bahamut (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOehlpV_G8c)
God Of War - The Vengeful Spartan (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghpaFwnFtfY), Kratos' Evil Past (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7zmPVzx5t4), Battle The Lethal Sirens (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKNAEIGoNUI), Zeus' Wrath Divine (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnQnIWVTv8), The Desert of Lost Souls (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60YrJbAGhYE)
God of War II - Glory of Sparta (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L6lYtYQp6g), The Isle of Creation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3PmLXZWFxA), The Pegasus Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyCGjXlJW8Q), The End Begins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1br_h51dD4), Seize Your Fate (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmaYebUXlDk)
Gran Turismo 3 - Obscure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOUrGhHRJMs), Great Job (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZDn-nI9H8), Growl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lBsGoJIgwc), First Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEqHKOqM0q0), An Endless Journey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0vHVVNgjF4)
Grandia 3 - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7gH_wfCUcc), Surmania (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1DV996IFQ), Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SD9BVS2xw8), Battle 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g), In the Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KizxHjOYGsI)
GrimGrimoire - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_IddLA1s-c), Sincerely (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsNYquj-StQ), Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVjpFue2oA), Magical Classroom (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qoPSRaOuU), Ancient Secrets (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXX71JEExKg)
Guilty Gear XX - Suck A Sage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWUbVn88NTk), Simple Life (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07iwC830wQ4), Blue Water Blue Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufZaffJJBjE), Festival Of Shadows (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmHw_xXs3fM), Midnight Carnival (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csIIrYuVRAE)
Gungrave - Gunlock Overdrive! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJ1e1XYe24), An Ultimate Motive (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmlGJetHBfA&feature=BFa), Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkgRfe2rtY), Here Comes the Rain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwPxxLpS_ss), No Smoking Please (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrH0fcIPr4w)
ICO - Castle In The Mist (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DipbshLI8PA), You Were There (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVij6r4QBw), Entity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVloFsTu0Xc), Shadow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0uBgXKOPRY), Heal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ErwNCbYEQ)
Jak and Daxter - Geyser Rock (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHHxl561IFo), Rock Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WPoWTv06bU), Lost Precursor City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7qi_YZuenc), Mountain Pass (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIjdXfttapg), Final Battle - Part 4 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLybza_LEU4)
Jak and Daxter 2 - Haven City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL2B3xrt1tQ), Haven Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0dwVoNxGPs), Mountain Temple (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev_nueioHk4), The Pumping Station (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYzl2T8TCs), Battle With Metal Kor (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYXUKN_GuQ)
Jak and Daxter 3 - The Harsh Wasteland (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ayqnVRWIk), Spargus City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYtc-HRwd8), Sewers (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfxTaO-g0I), Monk Glider (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtA1o4ztgA), Dark Maker Finale (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=finKks9Qc1s)
Katamari Damacy - Tron the Grasslands (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46DaRosCiY), Everyone Dancing Kata (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCO_kTO0L18), Love & Peace (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsdabN1DfYE), Angel Flavor's Present (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_T16wbFx_k), Lonely Rolling Star (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_QydNXI_ok)
Killer7 - Rave On (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0QUksWmfw), Emoticon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwv-fR3-Pj0), Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HFE2J1TNK4), Heroic Deeds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg4yDzi3e8I), Residence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GH2yeI9ZoQ)
Kingdom Hearts - Dearly Beloved (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsrKbA2xt5M), Dive Into The Heart (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOpB12ow-VM), Destiny's Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJ3Jc6H3Jg), Scherzo di Notte (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndA8kEVG6tM), Hollow Bastion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nlCNVewMjA)
Kingdom Hearts II - Kairi (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbNYjGStrUg), Tension Rising (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pyfiN3QRjE), Rage Awakened (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUd4-LIKusA), Sacred Moon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StUE482AuJk), Darkness of The Unknown (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2nEoSYgzc)
Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil - Moonlight Museum Ver. 2 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XITov1R0Z8), Shattered Past (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4VJJ82LoIo&p=B2776CBC7B5F8617), Lunatea Waltz (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJT83IER46Y&p=B2776CBC7B5F8617), Ark’s Birth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PSwOHdA2M&p=B2776CBC7B5F8617), King of Sorrow’s Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUAR-ih_YI4&p=B2776CBC7B5F8617)
Metal Gear Solid 2 - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U), Electronica Emma (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwToccCFl9o), Fortune (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wjdVUjt3c), Father And Son (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q9hrgT2EfM), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqyC_nJinIY)
Metal Gear Solid 3 - Snake Eater (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4), Debriefing (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8WslV4cEw), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVCD1dsnJI), The Fury (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuEAgGq3IAk), Old Metal Gear (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoLMlL5yJxA)
Odin Sphere - Restaurant (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1iuMZMsxA), Study Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUt0Lm-N150), A Hard Fight And Then Hope (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlynaW75_sQ), The Fated Path (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8mm6cVAcb8), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrWzkHxYB9o)
Okami - Playing with Ushiwaka (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY-jMfZ1uDk), Agata Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlTNNHAa0rk), Kushinada’s Determination (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtXEjrnSfrk), Dragon Palace (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_cYPVpVUkw), Northern Country Kamui (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc-E_o5Xu5k)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - The Prelude Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf-KATqcbbs), Trouble At The Barracks (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQpkkyRYUQ), The Tower of Dawn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKwbptphnVU), Lost In The Crypts (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbhd7UtbyQM), Attack Of The Sand Griffins (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H1GPz2Zg08)
Radiata Stories - Legendary Sword (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm8t30TysW4), Devil's Incarnation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UIFBkm5_ls), Scarlet Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEbn2qlTpHk), Those With And Without Humanity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ_-Jtjl9bM), Gloomy Dance (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-z1YOytvIo)
Ratchet and Clank - On Veldin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o5v7Sj9S_Y), Aridia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwd3uqnG-eA), Metropolis (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D60HTdBckxM), Blackwater City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvS5TWTKHjg), Pokitaru (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwPngXHfxnQ)
Ratchet and Clank 2 - Flying Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKF_dqNao5g&playnext=1&list=PL8DC5930EA1F563AA), Swampy Boss (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEXAbz4Afk), Searching For The Thief (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7TkXc9SVlw), Canal City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T836H61m9D4), Megacorp Armory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QkRjAlB94)
Ratchet and Clank 3 - Obani Draco (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Z7GRRupOw), Crash Site (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVEMHAo-GJI), Command Center (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9vjkGqhI5M), Courtney Gears Battle Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P3-KiQVDxg), Planet Veldin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM0EGkmJVdQ)
Rule of Rose - The Attic (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_N3wIG7fj8), Fear Part II (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0rrwgxkeGU), Boss Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmz8xA7EbQ4), A Love Suicide (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jig_BSvn8wE), Waiting for the Dawn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iG4EhZwq40)
Shadow Hearts - Steel Soul-Tanjou (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqXh_UZExc), China Ogre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qAGDOE5es), Coffin Fetish (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5UlXyREyM), Highnoon Fish (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHeIrWdLbnw), Bacon’s Juice (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIr3ZKky1dc)
Shadow Hearts: Covenant - Map of Europe (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnd93cGX5cc), European Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OOthRuvRpM), Astaroth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0zAvQJ5NM), Personal History (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uexv2uSPyw), Inugami Village (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmn68-_Q38)
Shadow Hearts: From the New World - Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCI1GP_7z0), Dead Fingers Talk (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZWEcn102tA), Advertise (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjljjQ0vmi4), Chant of ICARO (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgV4eJJZAcU), Insane Blood (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k_1GW40ZqY)
Shadow Of The Colossus - The Opened Way (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrFL2zPc2uk), The Farthest Land (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix38fnllF3Y), In Awe Of The Power (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F-vB9RudQs), Counterattack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svRZz5t-6uU), A Despair-Filled Farewell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQpqsQ5icRE)
Shinobi - Golden Castle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySE7lz86gM4), Destroyed by Fire (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVnKTYc5zuA), Fate (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLO4g0PDanw), Ceremony (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aexb6UdrmSM), Moritsune (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mr6SyDUssI)
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga - Big Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXpq-xs3Rk), Hunting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IG7FCupjJM), Man's Tomb (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzbP1Zqtv34), Hari-Hara (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nl5nCyYmrY), End Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh3v-ReZwH4)
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 - Divine Entity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XOEZIZMUl0), The Sun (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ozQ7_2GCUA), Hunting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLb9nya88o), Karma City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9uUD60LS38), Battle for Survival (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7jDRRAwbw)
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Common Battle (large map) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6KIU3i_N4&feature=related), Mansion Of Heresy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leJxbjvmmZk&feature=related), Common Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzcOTx9Ok4w&feature=related), World Map (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBaq1bHoTpU&feature=related), Staff Roll (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lHce8CGIU)
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 - Joy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Z6E5ResUg), Want To Be Close (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YJAfmK3SPU), Mass Destruction (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9E3VR8Fnj0), Memories Of The City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhArt4yKg9c), The Battle for Everyone's Souls (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdMhTL5bZrs)
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 - New Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve4cz9D5jQ0), Striptease (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmsN7Qg2Mco), Heaven (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=463Us587Z9o), Signs Of Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdtJYmDAZPI), Fog (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3gEKpGD4D4)
Silent Hill 2 - Theme Of Laura (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKPOGJvhAII), Null Moon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLhtDJnPKBs), Heaven's Night (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8A22ulogJs), Betrayal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WShknpNpHbY), Promise (Reprise) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_PXTGdlGw)
Silent Hill 3 - Breeze in Monochrome Night (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZnrGaEBdg), Sickness Until Foolish Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Frwgx_MKc), Please Love Me…Once More (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFaoxkXWZc), Maternal Heart (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1DjgY6WrqY), Letter from the Lost Days (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBY_fUpmnQ)
Silent Hill 4 - Tender Sugar (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6xb5TDVNKA), Room of Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFubJOV6Obo), Nightmarish Waltz (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfB60hXPZR8), Wounded Warsong (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3aUGJ2VqmY), Your Rain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd_lndCMknU)
Sly Cooper - A Rocky Start (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzc5aijJMo), A Stealthy Approach (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzjZwN-PEE), Opening Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mXHz5CFLg), A Perilous Ascent (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnDc-QgMaQ), A Strange Reunion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3jqEzOT5BY)
Sly Cooper 2 - Canadian Wilderness (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88pwXKzkv8), Paris Rooftops (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Jhadq6CuY), India (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPoPoWNfCb8), Episode Select (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reLspW2vLYE), Battle With Dimitri (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjqF6JNjKZA)
Sly Cooper 3 - Streets of Venice (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qee90Gmbj4o), Holland Airfield (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_C4VEed434), X Marks The Spot (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2itjOfiIjCg), A Clue In A Painting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQ0jlEaPZM), Beginning Of The End (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDigNj9H3Wk)
Soul Calibur 3 - Hour of Destiny (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NurhGMOyXI), Forsaken Sanctuary (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtoHEbwCahA), Healing Winds (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIvyEZ5oWTY), Water Dance (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkdXUCdNnd0), Ephemeral Dream (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nieTekVxhEc)
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time - Dawn of Wisdom (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmYxRCGxFbc), The Desolate Smell of Earth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYSt4qX85oA), Reflected Moon (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHDmpbUqtk0), Bird’s Eye View (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lQJMzz1Ws), The Virtual Image (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtVjoGsRFGY)
Suikoden III - Exceeding Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs), Noisy Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g71-GUCeAOA), Searching for a Hero (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5gB9I8_2o), Beautiful Grasslands (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emxkPkdHH3I), Arctic Area (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TNXESH2t5Q)
Suikoden V - Wind of Phantom (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmawYXFQws8), Sealed Room (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6L6DJKnPFE), Town on a River (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FBQoL9bsZg), The Deep Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOeF14fo03A), Crossing the Mountain River (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E2CX0rOvhs)
Tales of Symphonia - Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpV5R3RYMhg), Fighting of the Spirits (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-BEGZCc0U), Beat the Angel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N2tbS9ctbQ), Revival (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwoNBXNhzN8), Fatalize (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQApJo4TBeY)
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria - A Motion of Finishing Blow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOe1tm-lJ4Y), The Chosen Confusion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTH0PtO9JKc), A Huge Eliminator (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cnl5aEKvqc), One Error Begets Another (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gee1-5e9fLo), Ascend into the True Faith (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTIVZl7Q7w)
Xenosaga: Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht - Relief (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ9_xZA1pfA), Beach of Nothingness (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_2pKh5KiCk), Life or Death (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdSSxxnIjzE), U.M.N. Mode (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rsj8Q_WB_8), U-TIC System (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlSertOUaZ4)
Zone of the Enders - Kiss Me Sunlights (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPE8EesftLg), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N6_mGzAvm0), Boss Neves (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DFkKGPZ58), A Light with the Name of Hope (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwQhDg6rzLA), Neith (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klCd4LtmDe8)
aces4839
08-31-2011, 04:48 PM
it looks good. personally, i think the disgaea games should be in there.
Smarty
09-01-2011, 10:16 PM
To add any game we must first remove another. Any suggestions?
aces4839
09-02-2011, 04:25 AM
sly 2 and one of the shin megami tensei games. should even the balance out a little more for series-type games. also, i have no idea what the second and third ratchet and clank games are.
topopoz
09-02-2011, 04:54 AM
I actually Prefer Phantom Brave's Music over Disagaea...
And any Persona Music can actually be out of the list IMO...
But it's your call..
So my suggestion is Phantom Brave over P3 or P4.
But I don't really care much if they're in or not. I'm not that fan of the PS2 music.
So I'm pretty Neutral about this Rumble.
EDIT: Yeah, not a fan of Vocal Jpop music during gameplay... It's toxic for me. My Immune system is not build for that. LOL
Smarty
09-02-2011, 09:42 AM
sly 2 and one of the shin megami tensei games. should even the balance out a little more for series-type games. also, i have no idea what the second and third ratchet and clank games are.
Sure. Sly 2 is arguably the weakest in the series (soundtrack-wise) and I'm not too fond of Digital Devil Saga 2. I vote for those to be removed. Which Disgaea do you want in?
Edit: So, how about 1 Disgaea game and Phantom Brave? We're removing 2 games so we need to add 2.
Szczepan
09-02-2011, 05:19 PM
Tales of Symphonia? I know its port was released on ps2 in Japan, but it feels weird that we select it while leaving other 2 PS2 Tales of games that were released in west... How about Tales of Legendia instead? It is the the only Tales without Motoi Sakuraba music and by many percieved as the best OST in series. Nothing against Abyss too, if others would prefer it over Legendia.
btw Being a big fan of Yuki Kajiura I would be really happy to also have Xenosaga II (or III) in this rumble:)
topopoz
09-02-2011, 05:32 PM
I'm fine if you remove DDS2, I'm not too fond of that one either. But the first DDS is a must have.
Smarty
09-02-2011, 07:50 PM
Tales of Symphonia? I know its port was released on ps2 in Japan, but it feels weird that we select it while leaving other 2 PS2 Tales of games that were released in west... How about Tales of Legendia instead? It is the the only Tales without Motoi Sakuraba music and by many percieved as the best OST in series. Nothing against Abyss too, if others would prefer it over Legendia.
btw Being a big fan of Yuki Kajiura I would be really happy to also have Xenosaga II (or III) in this rumble:)
Again, if you want something added, that's fine, just say what you want to have removed as well. If nobody has any objections, we'll do just that.
aces4839
09-02-2011, 08:33 PM
Sure. Sly 2 is arguably the weakest in the series (soundtrack-wise) and I'm not too fond of Digital Devil Saga 2. I vote for those to be removed. Which Disgaea do you want in?
Edit: So, how about 1 Disgaea game and Phantom Brave? We're removing 2 games so we need to add 2.
since the 2nd disgaea had about half the songs of what the first disgaea had, i'd go for that.
and instead of sly 2 bein takin out, im more for xenosaga: episode i. its lackin in the music department. its missin town, dungeon and ship themes which most people approve of.
Smarty
09-03-2011, 04:37 PM
I dunno I kinda like Xenosaga Ep1. Besides, it would be a good idea to not have too many entries from a single series. Basically, removing Sly 2 is a better idea, imo. If you feel too strongly about it, though, we'll remove Xeno. I don't mind too much, either way.
Thus far: Removing SMT: Digital Devil Saga 2 and adding Phantom Brave. Any objections?
aces4839
09-03-2011, 07:17 PM
well, sly 2 wasnt that bad to be honest. there were a number of themes that i did like. maybe we should remove a second SMT to balance out the list so there isnt more games in a series than it should be.
Smarty
09-03-2011, 11:06 PM
Nah, I'm definitely against that. Nocturne, DDS, P3 and P4 are both great soundtracks and they should definitely stay.
topopoz
09-04-2011, 01:22 AM
I think I'm with Aces here...
4 SMT games... Is quite a lot... And we have BOTH Persona music...
If you want so hardly all the Persona Music, delete something of Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter or the 3rd Shadow Hearts Music.
Smarty
09-04-2011, 03:14 PM
That I can deal with. Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy had great music, but the two sequels weren't particularly impressive. Jak 2 leaving the list is something I don't object to. I'd really rather keep both Personas. And I really don't want to see DDS or Nocturne go and I think you agree.
Mercenary Raven
09-04-2011, 05:28 PM
I think, for the Shadow Hearts Covenant one, you can replace Inugami Village with Vicious 1915 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p_SFBS-UCc). I know it's nowhere near the same style, but Inugami Village still have the "town" atmosphere going on and there's nothing as intense as Vicious 1915 in the list (Astaroth may be a battle theme but it's far more... soothing in atmosphere than Vicious 1915). For the original Shadow Hearts, Sacrifice ~Alice (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCEHSGycqhs) can easily take over Steal Soul - Tanjou just because it's a better song with better emotions and the like. And finally, for From the New World, you can replace either Opening or one of the ICAROs with Lady Tears I (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEzdNuaYK0M) because it feels redundant to have TWO ICAROs...
How about Tales of Legendia instead? It is the the only Tales without Motoi Sakuraba music and by many percieved as the best OST in series.qft.
arthurgolden
09-05-2011, 06:04 AM
Here's my summary of the discussion so far. Let me know if I got anything wrong.
Add: Disgaea 2, Phantom Brave, Tales of Legendia, Xenosaga 2 (or 3)
Remove: Sly Cooper 2, Digital Devil Saga 2, Tales of Symphonia, Jak and Daxter 2
At this point, I need to know if we're adding Xenosaga 2 or 3.
For the added soundtracks, I also need five song recommendations per soundtrack.
I'll make Mercenary's song changes during the rumble.
aces4839
09-05-2011, 06:08 AM
i can help with disgaea 2, but thats it. i didnt play much of phantom brave, but i did like Strange Wind cause it was featured in Disgaea 3.
Song of the Gods, Disgaea Rhapsody, Heavy Rotation, A Dark Race Becomes Magnificent '05, Visual Sensation.
Mercenary Raven
09-05-2011, 08:01 AM
arthurgolden
09-07-2011, 06:38 AM
Thanks for the above suggestions. :D
I'm still waiting to hear from Szczepan about his preference between Xenosaga II or III. If anyone else has a preference, let me know. Song recommendations will help, too.
Also, I still need five song recommendations for Phantom Brave. OST playlist here (
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL418A4B6A2556B982). If someone else could pick those five, I'd appreciate it.
In the meantime, I'm going to set up the fights, check the links, and find pictures for all of these soundtracks.
Starting soon...
topopoz
09-07-2011, 02:46 PM
Phantom Brave: Flower Blossom Guide, The End of This Passionate Feeling, B-A-R, Sand Feeling, Gloomy Feeling.
Szczepan
09-08-2011, 05:10 AM
I'm still waiting to hear from Szczepan about his preference between Xenosaga II or III. If anyone else has a preference, let me know. Song recommendations will help, too.
Thanks! TBH I would go with Xenosaga II for this rumble, as it has more Kajiura feeling in it, even though Xenosaga III OST seems more consistent overall. As for the song selection : In The Beginning, There Was... (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EB63PrXRaQ&feature=related), Opening Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49LA6m6Psgg&feature=related), Communication Breakdown (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEryKU-JHLE&feature=related), Bitter (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFJ5lky7gg), U-Do ~ Febronia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzT3-0nePw&feature=related)
Btw How about altering Xenosaga I song list a bit? Xenosaga I without Zarathustra (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KLmuOinlk&feature=related) and Albedo (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlmQiHClfko) is just not the same.
arthurgolden
09-08-2011, 05:23 AM
Szczepan
09-08-2011, 01:47 PM
Yeah, I'm ok with that:)
arthurgolden
09-08-2011, 05:45 PM
I think we should be ready to go tonight or tomorrow. I just need to grab composer names and years of release.
In the meantime, if you all know people who might like to join in, let them know. The more the merrier.
Also, an announcement. Topopoz has created a Facebook group just in case disaster strikes the Shrine. I won't put the link here so that just any guest clicking on this thread can see it. But if you want the link, shoot me a PM and I'll send it back to you. It'll be nice to keep in touch with everybody that way, too.
Okay. Rumble coming soon. Here's a link while you wait: The Criterion Collection of SNES games (
http://gammasquad.uproxx.com/2011/08/the-criterion-collection-of-snes-games#page/1)
aces4839
09-08-2011, 05:48 PM
im interested enough. send me a pm plz for the link.
arthurgolden
09-08-2011, 06:14 PM
Sent.
arthurgolden
09-09-2011, 05:25 PM
In the last battle, we decided that Hitoshi Sakimoto wrote the greatest PS1 soundtrack. This time around, we have to decide if he wrote the greatest PS2 soundtrack, too. At the same time, Vagrant Story has to fend off all his other works.
Before we get started, though, I want to acknowledge how much work Smarty did for the PS2 rumble. Without his recommendations at the macro and micro level, this wouldn't exist.
Round 1, Fight 1 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Final Fantasy Tactics by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (1997)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ivgHaQ32xk), Trisection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVrQv36YFgg), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
vs.

Devilish by Hitoshi Sakimoto (1992)
Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrxRUDAoUVI), Graveyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOJr2Dn6GQ), Clock Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-FMsdT7f0), Air Passage (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrsxKsE7Ro), Seaside (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5R1yT1Al7s)
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Round 1, Fight 1 // The PS2 Rumble

Final Fantasy XII by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, Hayato Matsuo, and Nobuo Uematsu (2006)
Royal City Rabanastre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0IJPV-8PY), Esper Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COG3R3Km-Zk), Forgotten Capital (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVoEKWckLz0), To the Gods' Place (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79uOLby7H8), Sky Fortress Bahamut (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOehlpV_G8c)
vs.

Tales of Legendia by Go Shiina (2005)
Battle Artist (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpT2ju4N4mQ ), Raging Nerifes (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c0_mvLMKP4), Sunlight Filtering Through the Trees (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVExk3f6OVo), My Tales (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTKgB03vPkw), Merry Bandits (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=942nethBkIc)
My votes are for Final Fantasty Tactics (great soundtrack beats a couple great songs) and Final Fantasy XII (although Tales of Legendia is an interesting and good soundtrack).
topopoz
09-09-2011, 05:57 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy XII - Tales of Legendia seems pretty interesting. But the sound quality didn't convinced me...
Smarty
09-10-2011, 11:31 AM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy XII
arthurgolden
09-11-2011, 06:44 PM
We'll keep this going for another day. In the meantime, there's lots happening on the group page (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/groups/vgm-rumble-group-procrastination-station/). You'll have to switch to a "Light" or "New" skin to see it, though, until they fix the group pages problem.
arthurgolden
09-12-2011, 04:54 PM
First round goes to Final Fantasy Tactics (3-0) and Final Fantasy XII (3-0). Next up�
Round 1, Fight 2 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Gradius V by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2004)
Opening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeITEr5-Ds), Universe (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDS-T2E_Lg), Boss (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5LglFwgDto), Cell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7UNmskEg-A), Battleship (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgPwhLPHfKg)
vs.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/stelladeus.gif Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (2004)
Alchemy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomwnxyxosk), Prince of a Ruined Country (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFXolGbDqVk), Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KltPcMIUMJU), Heroine's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2fLVIMAUE), Holy Spirit (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB5b2NZmBO8)
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Round 1, Fight 2 // The PS2 Rumble

Ratchet and Clank by David Bergeaud (2002)
On Veldin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o5v7Sj9S_Y), Aridia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwd3uqnG-eA), Metropolis (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D60HTdBckxM), Blackwater City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvS5TWTKHjg), Pokitaru (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwPngXHfxnQ)
vs.

Shadow of the Colossus by Kow Otani (2005)
The Opened Way (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrFL2zPc2uk), The Farthest Land (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix38fnllF3Y), Awesome Power (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F-vB9RudQs), Counterattack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svRZz5t-6uU), A Sad Farewell (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQpqsQ5icRE)
My votes are for Gradius V (went back and forth on this one) and Shadow of the Colossus (no debate; rapturous, amazing, triumphant, gorgeous, moving, one of the greatest vgm soundtracks of any console and any decade, will always be in my favorites, a reason to believe in music's power).
Bonus Shadow of the Colossus: Swift Horse (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRqfpmzofno)
Smarty
09-12-2011, 08:44 PM
What arthur said about SotC. It's really on a whole other level. It doesn't hurt that the same can be said about the game either. So, Shadows of The Colossus it is. If you happen to have a PS3, then I must urge you to buy the ICO and Shadow of The Colossus collection, in case you haven't played the originals.
It's also a bit hard not to feel sad about Ratchet and Clank. The music of the series is excellent overall and I hope that at least 1 game from the series will make it to the next round. This match is a bit of a no brainer in Shadow's favor.
As for Sakimoto, Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity. I haven't heard this before. I dig it.
Mercenary Raven
09-12-2011, 11:01 PM
Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity is nice and new and fresh to me.
Shadow of the Colossus- I sincerely think the OST is overrated, but I still prefer it to ratchet and clank.
arthurgolden
09-13-2011, 04:42 AM
Not me. :-P I haven't played the game, though, and I know sometimes music I like is hated by others because they heard it too many damn times during the game.
Mercenary Raven
09-13-2011, 04:59 AM
Haven't played the game but the OST seems to try too hard... but thats just me.
Smarty
09-13-2011, 10:15 AM
It hardly gets boring during the game. You rarely hear each track more than 2-3 times. It's better if you hear them in game actually, you really can't imagine what it's like.
arthurgolden
09-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I gotta play it sometime. I watched a speedrun a couple years ago (1 hour, 34 minutes), but they skipped all of the cutscenes. So I had no idea what the storyline was. The music still got to me.
aces4839
09-13-2011, 04:20 PM
sorry i missed the start of the rumble, i had issues with my laptop. no vote for me this time.
arthurgolden
09-13-2011, 04:23 PM
No apologies necessary. :D Glad to see you back, though.
topopoz
09-13-2011, 07:32 PM
Stella Deus - Awesome soundtrack. Gradius is one of a hell Dark-Electronica OST and the arrangements of the old tracks are awesome.
Shadow of the Colossus - Awesome Series - Shadow of the Awesome - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdPd3PtQBZc)
EDIT: The Farthest Land is an Instant case Study for developing my Music Style, thanks People for this amazing OST.
arthurgolden
09-14-2011, 12:00 AM
^^ Thanks for the link.
Any chance we'll get to see topopoz shredding it up on YouTube?
Side-note: When you all look on the group page, do you see the soft deleted threads (which go on for a page and a half), like this...
Or do you only see the active threads?
Also, we have a member named fuck23?
aces4839
09-14-2011, 03:01 AM
No apologies necessary. :D Glad to see you back, though.
thanks, dood. and apparently u do have a member by that name. i have seen it before.
arthurgolden
09-14-2011, 05:00 AM
That's awesome. Either we have 22 other people named Fuck, or that dude really hates Lebron James.
aces4839
09-14-2011, 06:51 AM
lol
Szczepan
09-15-2011, 04:04 AM
Stella Deus 1st time hearing it as well and sounds pretty good
Shadow of the Colossus Played the game and loved every second of it!(except this nasty, fast, little collosi:P) Unforgettable atmosphere and soundtrack:)
arthurgolden
09-15-2011, 07:02 AM
The winners are Stella Deus (4-1) and Shadow of the Colossus (5-0). Next up�
Round 1, Fight 3 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Odin Sphere by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, Kimihiro Abe, Mitsuhiro Kaneda, and Manabu Namiki (2007)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcBN0tmdpA), Study Time (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUt0Lm-N150), Restaurant (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1iuMZMsxA), Trial (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLrE8dlsrQE), A Fate Accepted (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUEhGkh08Tg)
vs.

Valkyria Chronicles by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Daisuke Kawaguchi (2008)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDlIEhLozDg), Hard Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLW3Gh5bIXI), Beautiful Gallia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKa4yK-IQCY), Street Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Se7Aw32gE), Valkyria's Awakening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DWwCWViZi0)
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Round 1, Fight 3 // The PS2 Rumble

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 by Craig Stuart Garfinkle and Jeremy Soule (2004)
The Trade Way (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDc2Wni5L_c), Karnac The Butcher (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrthxFJQRBA), Mausoleum (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpAP4ShhcS8), Randalla Brasshorn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsYw9jWNBYs), Boss Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9icd9u6D9c)
vs.

Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King by Koichi Sugiyama (2004)
Heavenly Flight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlN7mbkslXo), Great Battle in the Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VkVnwfLsiw), Mysterious Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOHAFBxVv4w), Strange World (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5coKpnqqAbI), Remembrances (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2WwTk1Z_4)
My votes are for Odin Sphere and Dragon Quest VIII.
P.S. So...do you all see the deleted threads on the group page?
Smarty
09-15-2011, 10:15 AM
No, I don't see any of the deleted regardless of what skin I'm using.
Valkyria Chronicles <3
Dragon Quest VIII <3
The first Dark Alliance had better music. Let's see with which game it pairs when the time comes.
topopoz
09-15-2011, 02:34 PM
Valkyria Chronicles - I Actually never liked Odin Sphere Music...
DQ VIII - HEAVILLY INFLENCED BY DEBUSSY
Smarty
09-15-2011, 08:50 PM
What's debussy?
topopoz
09-15-2011, 10:38 PM
What's debussy?
Claude Debussy, late-Romantic and Modern Classical composer. His lived on the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th. Widely considered the prime composer that made the transition from the Romantic to Modern classical music.
arthurgolden
09-16-2011, 05:49 AM
An intro to Debussy:
- Clair de Lune (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LXl4y6D-QI)
- Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7loz-HWUM)
- La Mer (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy7zlStitCE)
Claude Debussy is widely regarded as one of the most influential composers of the 20th century. His harmonies, considered radical in his day, were influential to almost every major composer of the 20th century, especially the music of Maurice Ravel, Igor Stravinsky, Olivier Messiaen, B�la Bart�k, Pierre Boulez, Henri Dutilleux, Ned Rorem, and the minimalist music of Steve Reich and Philip Glass as well as the influential Japanese composer Toru Takemitsu [AG's note: in other words, this guy influenced many of the biggest bad asses of 20th century classical music]. He also influenced many important figures in Jazz, most notably George Gershwin, Bill Evans, George Shearing, Thelonious Monk, Duke Ellington, Ant�nio Carlos Jobim, Herbie Hancock and Jimmy Giuffre. Furthermore, he had a profound impact on contemporary soundtrack composers such as John Williams because Debussy's colorful and suggestive style translated easily into an emotional language for use in motion picture scores. In 1999, The Art of Noise released a concept album titled The Seduction of Claude Debussy. The group blended the music of Debussy with drum and bass, opera, hip hop, jazz, and narration, and described the album as "the soundtrack to a film that wasn't made about the life of Claude Debussy." - From Wikipedia

Smarty
09-16-2011, 10:21 AM
I had no idea. Thanks for the info. I'm not too familiar with classical music, but I do enjoy it from time to time. I'll check out his works.
arthurgolden
09-16-2011, 03:12 PM
No problem. Hope you like it.
Szczepan
09-17-2011, 03:59 AM
Haven't seen them either
Valkyria Chronicles - as phenomenal and atmosphericas Odin Sphere ost gets at some points, VC has more songs that I like.
Dragon Quest VIII
btw we're at 108th page... Does the next PS2 battle will include Suikoden? xD
arthurgolden
09-17-2011, 05:09 PM
^^ Haha. Soon enough.
It's Valkyria Chronicles (3-1) and Dragon Quest VIII (4-0) this time around. Next up�
Round 1, Fight 4 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, and Hayato Matsuo (1993)
Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq4LGNGd5ik), Fortune Teller (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxt0DmUbPE4), Revolt (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDAMxLKY2EY), White Storm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CYBnusycE), Neo-Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HycdTU93u-0)
vs.

Treasure Hunter G by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, and Mitsuhito Tanaka (1996)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0W9Se92dU), Load File (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrNMI8PDkg), Hamarira (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLwQhFRyJc), Demi-Human Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ueBwcpfAGk), Emperor of Balladry (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-iM7bxm6o)
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Round 1, Fight 4 // The PS2 Rumble

Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories by Tenpei Sato (2006)
Song of the Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nUzihKjaI), Rhapsody (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYJHmFZ1qWc), Heavy Rotation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM96IRMrA6o), Magnificent Dark Family '05 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpmg8pPKrbk), Visual Sensation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7H3k_wzrKs)
vs.

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time by Stuart Chatwood (2003)
Prelude Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf-KATqcbbs), Trouble at the Barracks (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQpkkyRYUQ), Tower of Dawn (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKwbptphnVU), Lost in the Crypts (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbhd7UtbyQM), Sand Griffins Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H1GPz2Zg08)
My votes are for Treasure Hunter G and Prince of Persia. Tough call on the first one. I've played and beaten both of those games, and I love both soundtracks. The trick is limiting yourself just to Sakimoto's tracks and saying which lot is the better one. I like Ogre Battle as a game and as an entire soundtrack better, but Sakimoto's work, I think, was stronger with THG.
aces4839
09-17-2011, 05:10 PM
Disgaea 2
Smarty
09-17-2011, 10:14 PM
Disgaea 2 is indeed very good, I'm glad aces voted to include it, however my vote is definitely for Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. It's melodic, emotional and very atmospheric and features some of the best vocal work I've ever heard in a game. It has this crazy Arabian mystery about it and fits perfectly with both the tone and the aesthetic. And, again, it doesn't hurt that the game it's featured in is pretty damn awesome :D
Edit: Treasure Hunter G
feralanima
09-18-2011, 04:44 PM
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
topopoz
09-18-2011, 05:56 PM
People, I'm Currently on Vacation with a lousy internet connection. So I'll Probably not be here voting for about 8 days.
For now, all I can say is Ogre Battle.
Szczepan
09-19-2011, 07:08 PM
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Disgaea 2
arthurgolden
09-22-2011, 03:24 PM
Sorry I disappeared everyone. I am absolutely buried right now with work. I'm hoping to post the next fights tonight. Stay tuned.
In the meantime, here's a collection of pixel art (
http://www.flickr.com/photos/soundofdesign/collections/72157627037346919/).
arthurgolden
09-23-2011, 05:22 PM
Sorry for the delays everyone. Hope you're all doing well. And welcome back to feralanima. :D Good to see you.
Ogre Battle (3-2) and Prince of Persia (3-2) won the last fight. Here we go with the next one...
Round 1, Fight 5 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Radiant Silvergun by Hitoshi Sakimoto (1998)
Ruin (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUfJj04uDFY), Penta (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdxRBDidSy8), Debris (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cue-OP0iE7Q), Reminiscence (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUp2P5cDNJE), Return (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9aCnQcM_EI)
vs.

Final Fantasy XII by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, Hayato Matsuo, and Nobuo Uematsu (2006)
Rabanastre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0IJPV-8PY), Esper Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COG3R3Km-Zk), Signs of Change (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzi7myyotYY), To The Place of Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79uOLby7H8), Sky Fortress Bahamut (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOehlpV_G8c)
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Round 1, Fight 5 // The PS2 Rumble

Sly Cooper by Ashif Hakik (2002)
A Rocky Start (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzc5aijJMo), A Stealthy Approach (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzjZwN-PEE), Opening Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mXHz5CFLg), A Perilous Ascent (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnDc-QgMaQ), A Strange Reunion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3jqEzOT5BY)
vs.

Radiata Stories by Noriyuki Iwadare (2005)
Legendary Sword (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm8t30TysW4), Devil's Incarnation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UIFBkm5_ls), Scarlet Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEbn2qlTpHk), One Human & One Non-Human (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ_-Jtjl9bM), Gloomy Dance (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-z1YOytvIo)
My votes are for Radiant Silvergun (call me crazy, but at least right now I'm digging it more than FFXII) and Sly Cooper (Radiata Stories is classic Iwadare and was good supporting evidence that he could take over for Sakuraba, but I fell in love with Sly Cooper as soon as I heard it).
aces4839
09-23-2011, 06:44 PM
Final Fantasy XII & Sly Cooper
Smarty
09-25-2011, 02:56 PM
Final Fantasy XII
Radiata Stories
Szczepan
09-25-2011, 03:11 PM
Final Fantasy XII
Radiata Stories
feralanima
09-25-2011, 04:51 PM
FF XII
Sly Cooper
topopoz
09-27-2011, 02:13 PM
Radiant Silvergun - Mainly because of what it represents in Sakimoto's Career. He can manage to pull it out with his style even un ShmUP's.
Sly Cooper - Neat.
Bonus: Yesterday was the 25th Anniversary of...
http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/nes100/castlevania.pnghttp://comenzarjuego.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/castlevania.png
Ending: Super Castlevania 4 Music - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YQJdPLtoXU)
And the Winner of the CV Rumble we did back then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGq9VjJXVh8
And this is what the AVGN did for the anniversary:
http://cinemassacre.com/2011/09/26/castlevania-4-review-1992/
arthurgolden
09-28-2011, 06:08 AM
^^ Great post! The Castlevania series also boasts the #5 best cutscene in all of video games, at least according to this list (
http://www.complex.com/video-games/2011/09/the-50-best-video-game-cut-scenes/castlevania-symphony-of-the-night).
This time around it was Final Fantasy XII (4-2) and Sly Cooper (4-2). Next up�
Round 1, Fight 6 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Ayako Saso, Kaori Oukoshi, and Nobuo Uematsu (2003)
Comrades (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGI4g9ppbhM), Walking in Ivalice (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHLCtudnNdI), Monster Farm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH0gXUPyZQs), Incarnation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbgWXgVLF9A), Snow in the Schoolyard (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmyIAtHA6k)
vs.

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
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Round 1, Fight 6 // The PS2 Rumble

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance by Jeremy Soule (2001)
Elfsong (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDZUZKhwRE), Orb of the Undead (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V289NMuyAWk), Eldrith (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq-eJ9M2OIM), Mining Camp (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcKt2cO7wE), Onyx Tower (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9HTwfb6uFc)
vs.

Ratchet and Clank 2 by David Bergeaud (2003)
Flying Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKF_dqNao5g&playnext=1&list=PL8DC5930EA1F563AA), Swampy Boss (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEXAbz4Afk), Searching For The Thief (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7TkXc9SVlw), Canal City (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T836H61m9D4), Megacorp Armory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH6whZCsc8Q)
My votes are for Vagrant Story (which has the #1 cut scene) and Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance.
Smarty
09-28-2011, 02:29 PM
Vagrant Story
Ratchet and Clank 2
Diverse and badass. What more could you ask for?
Edit: Here are some more reccomendations for R&C
Mining Area (Planet Tabora - The Crystal Desert) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMstX9F334U&feature=related)
Thug HQ (Planet Snivlak - The Thug Leader's Giganto (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guANcvLuPGg&feature=related)
Maktar Resort (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgyWo18MGPY&feature=related)
Silver City (Planet Boldan) (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaU4zjUymAI&feature=related)
topopoz
09-28-2011, 05:03 PM
Vagrant Story
Ratchet and Clank 2 - I don't know about you, but I found BG really boring.
aces4839
09-28-2011, 07:31 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
arthurgolden
10-01-2011, 04:32 PM
Vagrant Story (3-1) and Ratchet and Clank 2 (2-1) won that one. Next up...
Round 1, Fight 7 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Legaia 2: Duel Saga by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Yasunori Mitsuda, and Michiru Oshima (2001)
Black Sun (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdKQl5Jbh_8), Pirate's Pride (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CVU7G6N7c), Lost Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUz3z3AAsc), Mark of the Vanquished (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1WypQuTv4), Everyday Tranquility (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A09yrke-RbY)
vs.

Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2002)
Lift (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9I-rQQxi7s), Lifeline (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0_CZmz1LA), Far Cry (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpSJmyxESxg), Kind Friends (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnd69gTZlEg), Electric Power Building (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksX_ISV5q0)
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Round 1, Fight 7 // The PS2 Rumble

Gungrave by Tsuneo Imahori (2002)
Gunlock Overdrive! (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJ1e1XYe24), An Ulterior Motive (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmlGJetHBfA&feature=BFa), Home (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkgRfe2rtY), Here Comes the Rain (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwPxxLpS_ss), No Smoking Please (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrH0fcIPr4w)
vs.

Shadow Hearts: Covenant by Yoshitaka Hirota, Yasunori Mitsuda, Kenji Ito, Ryo Fukuda, and Tomoko Kobayashi (2004)
Map of Europe (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnd93cGX5cc), European Town (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OOthRuvRpM), Astaroth (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D0zAvQJ5NM), Personal History (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uexv2uSPyw), Vicious 1915 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p_SFBS-UCc)
These are four legit soundtracks. Hmm...I guess my votes are for Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter and Shadow Hearts: Covenant. That probably comes down to mood, though, more than any objective assessment about which soundtrack is better.
On another note I'm still plowing through work. But I hope to have the rumble back on a every-two-days schedule again soon.
Also, Mercenary Raven told me a couple of interesting things about the Shadow Hearts: Covenant soundtrack over on the VGM Trivia thread. Check it out (
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f63/video-game-music-trivia-66197/4.html#post1748821).
topopoz
10-02-2011, 07:24 PM
Legaia 2: Duel Saga - For some reason I've never could got into BoF V Music... And I LOVE the contributions of Sakimoto to Legaia 2.
Gungrave - This one was a nice catch. I really liked "Here Comes the Rain". On the other Hand Shadow Hearts has some GREAT tracks. Twilight Town (Europe Town). Was another Mitusuda Song that I was trying to get to play on the guitar. But I get lost real quick. xD
Smarty
10-03-2011, 12:24 PM
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Gungrave
feralanima
10-05-2011, 02:48 AM
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Gungrave
arthurgolden
10-06-2011, 06:19 AM
Hey guys. This is a very welcome distraction from work right now. Looks like Legaia 2: Duel Saga (3-1) and Gungrave (3-1) are moving on. And now for the final fight of Sakimoto Round 1 (gotta love the speed of a 16-soundtrack battle)...
Round 1, Fight 8 // The Sakimoto Rumble

ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (2007)
The Battle with History (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVNaH-g3-8), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi86IMajy3I), Ashen Soldier (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRixB2oTDn8), Bullnequ's Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZlyA-XWoCU), Millinear Kingdom (click #2) (
http://bit.ly/lboxxE)
vs.

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (1995)
Chapter A (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGWRQ5Hd9WE), Three Kings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXG7DlV27u8), Limitation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-jtpi4WBs), Passing Moment (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdVyOBHlx6c), Avilla Henya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQTQ_LeuGI)
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Round 1, Fight 8 // The PS2 Rumble

Zone of the Enders by Maki Kirioka, Norihiko Hibino, Toshiyuki Kakuta, Akihiro Honda, and Shuichi Kobori (2001)
Kiss Me Sunlights (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPE8EesftLg), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N6_mGzAvm0), Boss Neves (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DFkKGPZ58), A Light with the Name of Hope (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwQhDg6rzLA), Neith (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klCd4LtmDe8)
vs.

Kingdom Hearts by Yoko Shimomura (2002)
Dearly Beloved (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsrKbA2xt5M), Dive Into The Heart (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOpB12ow-VM), Destiny's Force (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJ3Jc6H3Jg), Scherzo di Notte (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndA8kEVG6tM), Hollow Bastion (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nlCNVewMjA)
My votes are for ASH and Kingdom Hearts. ASH is a a thrilling, deeply intricate soundtrack. You're not going to be whistling the melodies in the shower, but it's a tour de force of arrangements and variation. Tactics Ogre is nothing to sniff at either (I'm still a huge fan of that moment where Avilla Henya takes off), but the limiting technology makes it seem simplistic next to ASH. Kingdom Hearts is just too much for Zone of the Enders.
aces4839
10-06-2011, 06:29 AM
Tactics Ogre & Kingdom Hearts
the original Tactics Ogre game is called just Tactics Ogre. that title is from the psp release.
topopoz
10-06-2011, 12:33 PM
the original Tactics Ogre game is called just Tactics Ogre. that title is from the psp release.
Actually no, The subtitle is from the NTSC PSX version, and I'm not quite sure if the SNES had that subititle as well. PSP has the subtitle "Wheel of Fortune".
For more trivia stuff. "Ogre Battle", "March of the Black Queen", "Let us Cling Together". All three of them are Queen Songs. The developer has admitted to be a fan of the band.
Tactics Ogre - It's more representative of Sakimoto's Career.
Kingdom Hearts
feralanima
10-06-2011, 04:35 PM
Tactics Ogre
Kingdom Hearts
aces4839
10-07-2011, 05:24 AM
Actually no, The subtitle is from the NTSC PSX version, and I'm not quite sure if the SNES had that subititle as well. PSP has the subtitle "Wheel of Fortune".
For more trivia stuff. "Ogre Battle", "March of the Black Queen", "Let us Cling Together". All three of them are Queen Songs. The developer has admitted to be a fan of the band.
Tactics Ogre - It's more representative of Sakimoto's Career.
Kingdom Hearts
while i do admit that they have that title on the JP and EU releases, it does not have the same exact title for the US release as the cover art says. no arguments from me, though.
Smarty
10-07-2011, 12:14 PM
Tactics Ogre
Kingdom Hearts
I still think that Hollow Bastion from the first KH game is one of the best levels of all time. With music to match.
Szczepan
10-08-2011, 03:43 AM
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Kingdom Hearts
arthurgolden
10-11-2011, 03:17 PM
Tactics Ogre (5-1) and Kingdom Hearts (6-0) won that one pretty easily. Next up...
Round 2, Fight 1 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Final Fantasy XII by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, Hayato Matsuo, and Nobuo Uematsu (2006)
Rabanastre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0IJPV-8PY), Esper Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COG3R3Km-Zk), Signs of Change (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzi7myyotYY), To The Place of Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79uOLby7H8), Sky Fortress Bahamut (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOehlpV_G8c)
vs.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/stelladeus.gif Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (2004)
Alchemy (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomwnxyxosk), Prince of a Ruined Country (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFXolGbDqVk), Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KltPcMIUMJU), Heroine's Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M2fLVIMAUE), Holy Spirit (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB5b2NZmBO8)
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Round 1, Fight 9 // The PS2 Rumble

Castlevania: Lament of Innocence by Michiru Yamane (2003)
Anti-Soul Mysteries Lab (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0UTM-IzjM), House of Sacred Remains (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxyFFzmIpTI), Dark Palace of Water (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9e7SW7wdK4), Aria of Nightmare (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrT-dsDaIWA), Prison of Eternal Torture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDzt2cpj8Do)
vs.

Gran Turismo 3 by Masahiro Andoh, Daiki Kasho, and Isamu Ohira (2001)
Obscure (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOUrGhHRJMs), Great Job (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZDn-nI9H8), Growl (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lBsGoJIgwc), First Attack (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEqHKOqM0q0), An Endless Journey (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0vHVVNgjF4)
My votes are for Final Fantasy XII and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence.
Smarty
10-11-2011, 08:12 PM
Final Fantasy XII
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
Both by quite far.
Trivia: Lament of Innocence was the first game to feature a new castlevania logo, which is the one still being used.
topopoz
10-11-2011, 08:27 PM
As much as I love FFXII soundtrack... Stella Deus has a warm spot in my heart. Alchemy just kills me. It's simplicity and the Vocal Theme rocks my socks. This soundtrack could easily be called as the FFT2 soundtrack.
Lament of Innocence - If it was GT4. That would've been a different vote.
feralanima
10-12-2011, 01:03 AM
Final Fantasy XII
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
arthurgolden
10-15-2011, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the trivia Smarty. :D
The winners this time around are Final Fantasy XII (3-1) and Castlevania: Lament of Innocence (4-0). Next up�
Round 2, Fight 2 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Valkyria Chronicles by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Daisuke Kawaguchi (2008)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9rJdxmuQU), Hard Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Au7to6LDds), Beautiful Gallia (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjLcrqO3fCs), Street Fighting (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlIrMt6vicw), Valkyria's Awakening (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60n0oIda_b8)
vs.

Final Fantasy Tactics by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (1997)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ivgHaQ32xk), Trisection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVrQv36YFgg), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
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Round 1, Fight 10 // The PS2 Rumble

Suikoden III by Michiru Yamane, Takashi Yoshida, and Masahiko Kimura (2002)
Exceeding Love (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_hCwrNcLs), Noisy Wind (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g71-GUCeAOA), Searching for a Hero (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5gB9I8_2o), Beautiful Grasslands (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emxkPkdHH3I), Arctic Area (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TNXESH2t5Q)
vs.

Final Fantasy X by Nobuo Uematsu, Junya Nakano, and Masashi Hamauzu (2001)
To Zanarkand (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0G_FI61a8), Assault (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osajnmj2msU), Silence Before The Storm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHw2V0C-D-o), A Fleeting Dream (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAFi88J5Aw), Decisive Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTxqsTfDgC4)
My votes are for Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy X :-(.
topopoz
10-16-2011, 04:30 AM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Suikoden III
Smarty
10-16-2011, 07:59 AM
Tactics is definitely the better soundtrack, but I have a soft spot in my heart for Valkyria Chronicles.
Final Fantasy X
feralanima
10-16-2011, 11:59 PM
Valkyria Chronicles
Final Fantasy X
Link006
10-17-2011, 02:02 AM
Valkyria Chronicles, Final Fantasy X.
aces4839
10-17-2011, 05:43 AM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Suikoden III
Szczepan
10-18-2011, 01:11 AM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X ...some difficult choices.
Link006
10-18-2011, 03:41 PM
In an off topic discussion, what mp3 players do you guys use? More specifically, are there any good non-Apple ones out there? My poor Creative Zen Vision from 2006 is on its last leg (as in... won't turn on or turn off). I avoid Apple because of my burning hatred of the iTunes platform (not the monetization of it; more the fact that it overrides your media playback preferences, runs slow and takes up too much memory). Any good ones out there?
#Anythingbutipod
topopoz
10-18-2011, 03:45 PM
I use my cellphone a Nokia 5130. That's it. It uses micro SD cards, you can buy a card reader and load the music and then put the card in the phone or you can just load the music through cable with the Phone connected through the PC. No iTunes or bizarre software needed. It's just normal file transfer.
jakob
10-18-2011, 04:30 PM
In an off topic discussion, what mp3 players do you guys use? More specifically, are there any good non-Apple ones out there? My poor Creative Zen Vision from 2006 is on its last leg (as in... won't turn on or turn off). I avoid Apple because of my burning hatred of the iTunes platform (not the monetization of it; more the fact that it overrides your media playback preferences, runs slow and takes up too much memory). Any good ones out there?
#Anythingbutipod
I use a Galaxy S which has good sound quality, uses Micro SD, and also (along with every android phone) uses simple file transfers to get music onto it. I actually use a streamer with it called subsonic, which streams anything on your computer at its original bitrate if you want it to (even flac, which the gs plays natively) assuming the computer is on and the streamer is running. The Galaxy S II, which is more recent, supports flac too although it uses a Yamaha DAC as opposed to the wolfson found in the original GS. I couldn't tell if you were asking for a media player preference as well, but I use foobar even though it isn't terribly user-friendly at the start.
Anyway, Final Fantasy Tactics.
Also, nice to see the same chaps hanging around here even though I've been out of the thread for a while. Hi!
arthurgolden
10-20-2011, 03:26 PM
@Link: I just use my computer. A desktop might be a little bulky for you to walk around with. :-\ Sorry I couldn't help more.
@jakob: Good to see you. :D How ya doing?
All right, the next to move on are Final Fantasy Tactics (5-3) and Final Fantasy X (5-2).
Round 2, Fight 3 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, and Hayato Matsuo (1993)
Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq4LGNGd5ik), Fortune Teller (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxt0DmUbPE4), Revolt (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDAMxLKY2EY), White Storm (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4CYBnusycE), Neo-Overture (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HycdTU93u-0)
vs.

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
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Round 1, Fight 11 // The PS2 Rumble
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/arthurgolden/grandia3.gif Grandia 3 by Noriyuki Iwadare (2005)
Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7gH_wfCUcc), Surmania (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1DV996IFQ), Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SD9BVS2xw8), Battle 3 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOw6QPt1-g), In the Sky (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG_5LLo2AI0)
vs.

Metal Gear Solid 3 by Harry Gregson-Williams, Norihiko Hibino, Shuichi Kobori, Nobuko Toda, Rika Muranaka, and Star Sailor (2004)
Snake Eater (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4), Debriefing (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8WslV4cEw), Main Theme (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVCD1dsnJI), The Fury (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuEAgGq3IAk), Old Metal Gear (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoLMlL5yJxA)
My votes are for Vagrant Story and Metal Gear Solid 3.
I'm still in a dream.
topopoz
10-20-2011, 03:42 PM
Vagrant Story
Believe it or not. Grandia III
Also, look what I've found!!!! Desperate Fight (Final Fantasy XII) - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq8fUytWysg) a Sakimoto song going Metal. =D
Smarty
10-20-2011, 08:31 PM
Vagrant Story
Metal Gear Solid 3
Best MGS ever (as long as you play Subsistence)
feralanima
10-21-2011, 12:25 AM
Vagrant Story
Metal Gear Solid 3
Szczepan
10-21-2011, 04:13 PM
Vagrant Story
Metal Gear Solid 3
arthurgolden
10-24-2011, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the link topopoz. :D
Best MGS ever (as long as you play Subsistence)
I agree, but I'd rather play MGS most days. Simple, short, over the top, and fun.
Vagrant Story (5-0) and Metal Gear Solid 3 (4-1) this time around. Next up is the final fight of Sakimoto Round 2. Like usual, we'll then switch to Sakimoto fights exclusively until the semifinals and finals are finished. Then we'll go back to PS2.
Round 2, Fight 4 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Legaia 2: Duel Saga by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Yasunori Mitsuda, and Michiru Oshima (2001)
Black Sun (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdKQl5Jbh_8), Pirate's Pride (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CVU7G6N7c), Lost Forest (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUz3z3AAsc), Mark of the Vanquished (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA1WypQuTv4), Everyday Tranquility (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A09yrke-RbY)
vs.

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (1995)
Chapter A (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGWRQ5Hd9WE), Three Kings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXG7DlV27u8), Limitation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-jtpi4WBs), Passing Moment (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdVyOBHlx6c), Avilla Henya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQTQ_LeuGI)
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Round 1, Fight 12 // The PS2 Rumble

ICO by Michiru Oshima (2001)
Castle In The Mist (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DipbshLI8PA), You Were There (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVij6r4QBw), Entity (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVloFsTu0Xc), Shadow (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0uBgXKOPRY), Heal (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ErwNCbYEQ)
vs.

Sly Cooper 3 by Peter McConnell (2005)
Streets of Venice (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxLqhNSmW50), Holland Airfield (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DccDR50wLvs), Holland Hotel (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KzazLVuccg), Mining Camp Fight (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCZo3g3s7xo), Beginning Of The End (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yLp61ubGhk)
My votes are for Tactics Ogre and ICO.
Smarty
10-25-2011, 12:36 PM
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Sly 3
ICO is better, but I suspect Sly 3 won't be getting many votes and I don't want it to go down that easily.
feralanima
10-25-2011, 04:03 PM
Tactics Ogre
Sly 3
aces4839
10-25-2011, 06:05 PM
Tactics Ogre
Sly 3
Szczepan
10-25-2011, 08:49 PM
Tactics Ogre
ICO
arthurgolden
10-25-2011, 08:58 PM
@Smarty: You might have noticed that some of your picks changed. The previous YouTube account was taken down, and I couldn't find the same songs uploaded elsewhere.
In other news, putting games into Atari graphics (
http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2011/10/24/10-awesome-examples-of-todays-video-games-into-atari-format/).
aces4839
10-26-2011, 04:18 AM
topopoz
10-26-2011, 04:52 PM
Tactics Ogre - I actually like a little bit more Sakimoto's Contributions to Legaia. But Tactics Ogre marked really something in his Career.
ICO - 2nd Best Vocal Track in the History of Video Games... IMO.
Szczepan
10-27-2011, 01:20 AM
2nd Best Vocal Track in the History of Video Games... IMO.
Out of curiosity, what's 1st?;) The best is yet to come?
topopoz
10-27-2011, 03:13 AM
Out of curiosity, what's 1st?;) The best is yet to come?
Metal Gear Solid Soundtrack: The Best Is Yet To Come - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6miaTf1gF4g)
EDIT: yeaH!
arthurgolden
10-27-2011, 05:54 AM
arthurgolden
10-28-2011, 06:07 PM
Ico and Sly 3 are tied 3-3. Anyone who hasn't voted want to break it?
arthurgolden
10-31-2011, 12:00 AM
Tactics Ogre with the blow-out (6-0) and Sly 3 wins the tie-breaker (4-3) with a coin flip. Now onto the Sakimoto rumble's final fights�
Semifinals, Fight 1 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Final Fantasy Tactics by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (1997)
Title (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ivgHaQ32xk), Trisection (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVrQv36YFgg), Pray (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sVYkxyGxg&p=199E3C72F464C304), Team Making (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKoijRuwFQ&p=199E3C72F464C304), Data Screen (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEBHwKBP8po&p=199E3C72F464C304)
vs.

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together by Hitoshi Sakimoto and Masaharu Iwata (1995)
Chapter A (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGWRQ5Hd9WE), Three Kings (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXG7DlV27u8), Limitation (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-jtpi4WBs), Passing Moment (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdVyOBHlx6c), Avilla Henya (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVQTQ_LeuGI)
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Semifinals, Fight 2 // The Sakimoto Rumble

Final Fantasy XII by Hitoshi Sakimoto, Masaharu Iwata, Hayato Matsuo, and Nobuo Uematsu (2006)
Rabanastre (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0IJPV-8PY), Esper Battle (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COG3R3Km-Zk), Signs of Change (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzi7myyotYY), To The Place of Gods (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c79uOLby7H8), Sky Fortress Bahamut (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOehlpV_G8c)
vs.

Vagrant Story by Hitoshi Sakimoto (2000)
Opening Movie (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSvSXSttRw), Abandoned Mines Level 1 (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVooykY0CcI), Great Cathedral (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUkHA4z_p-Q), Factory (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4r0sRYuio), Dawn of Le� Monde (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcSr4PyutQ)
My votes are for Final Fantasy Tactics and Vagrant Story.
topopoz
10-31-2011, 12:36 AM
I had a rough time deciding the first one... But Nostalgia won me... Final Fantasy Tactics.
For the second was easy Vagrant Story.
aces4839
10-31-2011, 04:28 AM
Final Fantasy Tactics & Final Fantasy XII
Smarty
10-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Final Fantasy Tactics
Vagrant Story
Szczepan
10-31-2011, 02:24 PM
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Vagrant Story
1st was an extremely hard choice, while 2nd much easier.
aces4839
10-31-2011, 05:27 PM
im goin off topic for a bit to say happy halloween to u guys. enjoy your night.:)
Smarty
10-31-2011, 05:36 PM
My country's equivalent to Halloween is in February. But Happy Halloween nonetheless ;)
feralanima
10-31-2011, 10:11 PM
Tactic's Ogre
Vagrant Story
arthurgolden
11-02-2011, 06:07 AM
Happy (belated) Halloween to everybody! We went out for a little bit and then watched The Exorcist. No costumes this year. :(
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