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SuperKungFu
01-07-2008, 07:49 PM
Does anyone know the song title for the ending part of the "I AM LEGEND" trailer?
http://iamlegend.warnerbros.com/

Cheers and thanks in advance.

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 07:54 PM
Does anyone know the song title for the ending part of the "I AM LEGEND" trailer?

Yes!

From the film fountain and

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 07:56 PM
and Danny The Dog

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 08:11 PM
PEOPLE!!!!!At me a question, unless it not a piracy to use music from other films!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 08:14 PM
THEY Also are the GREATEST PIRATES, ALL THESE COMPANIES!!!!

Director91
01-07-2008, 08:45 PM
Does anyone know the song title for the ending part of the "I AM LEGEND" trailer?

Yes!

From the film fountain and

The Fountain- Death Is the Road To Awe
Unleashed- Two Rocks and a Cup of Water

licenturion
01-07-2008, 09:06 PM
THEY Also are the GREATEST PIRATES, ALL THESE COMPANIES!!!!

What do you mean? :confused:

DeePoo
01-07-2008, 09:49 PM
RaMZeS learn to edit posts! you had 4 posts in a row, just edit it to one, because that is quite annoying!

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 09:55 PM
IN trailer FILM " I AM LEGEND " MUSIC FROM OTHER 2 FILMS IS USED!!!!!

User8711
01-07-2008, 10:02 PM
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RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 10:06 PM
I Am Legend (2007)
THEATRICAL TRAILER
"Trinity" - James Dooley
"A Moments Hesitation" - Brand X Music
"Red Warrior" - audiomachine
The Fountain (2006): "Death is the Road to Awe" - Clint Mansell
"Two Rocks and A Cup of Water" - Massive Attack


TEASER TRAILER
"Celestial (vox)" - synchronic music
"Etoll Low Hits 16" - Robert Etoll
"Fatal Fantasy" - Music Junkies


AS YOU CAN SEE I AM right

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 10:33 PM
Why everyone are silent!!! It be not become favourable.

chrismm42
01-07-2008, 10:35 PM
THEY Also are the GREATEST PIRATES, ALL THESE COMPANIES!!!!

Sorry, I'm not really sure where your going with this. What exactly are you saying? Many trailers have music from other films in them. As you can see from this website...
http://web1.soundtrack.net/trailers/
...some of the most used tracks in trailers are from other films. It's not piracy. The movie studios get permission of course to use these tracks.

RaMZeS
01-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Simply it is other kind of a piracy!

Hyphen
01-07-2008, 11:14 PM
Can anyone give me a link where i can download the song "house of cards" by audiomachine it would be a huge help thank you
Jack W

Hi Jack,

As jalaldevil said, that particular song can be found on the first page (and first post) of this thread under Audio Machine, and it's on the Platinum Series I album (disc 3, tracks 1, 2 & 3).

But just incase, I've uploaded them here...

House of Cards (http://download.yousendit.com/37A01B80160DCCB8)
House of Cards (No choir) (http://download.yousendit.com/70B4040962BCEC18)
House of Cards (No drums) (http://download.yousendit.com/DB56A0B75F598323)

Please note that because of "yousendit", these links will only be up for 7 days.

SuperKungFu
01-07-2008, 11:15 PM
very nice guys, thanks for all the music titles. You guys really know your stuff.

MadKalnod
01-08-2008, 12:24 AM
Sorry, I'm not really sure where your going with this. What exactly are you saying? Many trailers have music from other films in them. As you can see from this website...
http://web1.soundtrack.net/trailers/
...some of the most used tracks in trailers are from other films. It's not piracy. The movie studios get permission of course to use these tracks.

I remember about ten years ago, when just about every movie trailer used either "Bishop's Countdown" from Aliens by James Horner (if was supposed to be scary or suspenseful) or the theme from The Rocketeer also by James Horner (if it was meant to be heroic or adventurous). IIRC, James Newton Howard's theme from Waterworld was a close third. Indeed, original music written especially for the trailers seems to be a relatively recent phenomenon.

radeon500
01-08-2008, 03:55 AM
does anyone know the track played when top cruise got beat up by ujhio in the last samurai trailer 2.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8977639022398908317&q=The+Last+Samurai+Trailer&total=159&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5

pyroblackbelt
01-08-2008, 05:15 AM
Could someone upload all the Pfeifer Broz. Music albums?

pyroblackbelt
01-08-2008, 05:24 AM
Oh and does anyone know the music on the new "10,000 B.C." trailer?
http://wbads-24.vo.llnwd.net/e1/wbmovies/10000bc/trailer/10000BCTrailer_2A_large.mov

pyroblackbelt
01-08-2008, 05:59 AM
does anyone know the track played when top cruise got beat up by ujhio in the last samurai trailer 2.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8977639022398908317&q=The+Last+Samurai+Trailer&total=159&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5

Hear are the songs used in the trailer:

"Code of Honor" - Brand X Music
"The End of the Beginning" - ParodiFair

saud alali
01-08-2008, 07:47 AM
hi
like you see im new, im searching form privet message how can i find it or hoe can i send a message to a member?

thanks

saud alali
01-08-2008, 07:52 AM
to my friend Arumon

how can i contact you ? i cant send PM or any things ?

Achronos
01-08-2008, 10:15 AM
to my friend Arumon

how can i contact you ? i cant send PM or any things ?

The first thing you have to do to send a PM, is to click on the persons name on the left side of the screen. A list of options will come up. One of them will say something like 'Send a personal message to ?????' or 'Send ????? a personal message'.

But first, be wary that you have to have a specific amount of posts or been on this forum a specific amound of time before the option to PM is available.

Hope that helps ... :)

Arumon
01-08-2008, 10:33 AM
to my friend Arumon

how can i contact you ? i cant send PM or any things ?

yes, as stated above by Achronos, click on the screenname of the person you wish to contact and a submenu will pop up. If the pm funtion is not there yet you need to make a few more posts. ;)

radeon500
01-08-2008, 02:00 PM
Hear are the songs used in the trailer:

"Code of Honor" - Brand X Music
"The End of the Beginning" - ParodiFair

thanks i had already tried those tracks and they arent the one i was looking for. thanks though.

XShaDoWzX
01-09-2008, 01:04 AM
Can someone upload Nemesis? Thanks

x-ray_fan
01-09-2008, 03:48 AM
Tomorrow i Upload X-Ray Dog - The C.F. Remix Album.

Joshua197
01-09-2008, 07:15 AM
Can someone upload Nemesis? Thanks

I'm sorry, but we can't upload nemesis, since the composer asked us friendly not to do so a couple of posts ago. Just seachr "Tjb" and you'll find it.

saud alali
01-09-2008, 07:37 AM
thanks Achronos and Arumon for helping me.

evilnik
01-09-2008, 12:43 PM
the links in the first page are not working for me........... can somebody help help!?????

Achronos
01-09-2008, 03:15 PM
the links in the first page are not working for me........... can somebody help help!?????

Did you ever give a thought that MAYBE they have been deleted. I mean ... come on ... they have been there for nearly 5 months. They dont last.

BTW, i am pretty sure some of them work. Just depends what you are looking for. The popular ones are gone.

pyroblackbelt
01-09-2008, 06:50 PM
the links in the first page are not working for me........... can somebody help help!?????

Most of the mirrors still work, mainly all the ones hosted on Extremeshare

Ayer26
01-10-2008, 12:31 AM
Do any of the companies such as audiomachine sell cds to the public. I really want to be able to listen to the songs without having to hear clips or watch the trailer.

Macksis
01-10-2008, 06:19 AM
We've been assured that cds available for public purchase are in the works and to be patient. But who knows how long that'll be...

I'd harvest my own organs to be able to hear Nemesis.

licenturion
01-10-2008, 06:58 AM
We've been assured that cds available for public purchase are in the works and to be patient. But who knows how long that'll be...

I'd harvest my own organs to be able to hear Nemesis.

Nemesis is already out. If you look good enough you'll find it =)

woland
01-10-2008, 09:09 AM
Nemesis is already out. If you look good enough you'll find it =)

HINT HINT PLZ =). I know I feel bad for asking for Nemesis. I do promise that once I get it, no one but me but will be able to hear it. ;)

Arumon
01-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Do any of the companies such as audiomachine sell cds to the public. I really want to be able to listen to the songs without having to hear clips or watch the trailer.

not by Audiomachine but here's a list of cd's you can buy officially:

http://midway.globat.com/~trailertracks.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=495

User8711
01-10-2008, 01:44 PM
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bleins
01-10-2008, 01:53 PM
anyone have this ?
Absolute Power - Brand X Music .
Ancient Worlds - Brand X Music .
Burning Sands - Brand X Music .
Captivate - Brand X Music .
Dawn's Doom - Brand x Music
Death Toll - Brand X Music
Katana - Brand X Music
Sandinista - Brand X Music
Shadow Hunter - Brand X Music
Shattered Soul - Brand X Music
Slip Knot - Brand X
When Justice Fails - Brand X Music

licenturion
01-10-2008, 02:40 PM
It's beautiful montage. But NEMESIS is still the best. Release for public in mid 2008

What do you mean?
Will Nemesis be released to the public??? What's your source???

I hope they make a double disk edition.
CD1: Nemesis
CD2: Nemesis 2 - Legend
That would be awesome and an instant buy.
If not all Nemesis 1 tracks are there, I don't know yet...

kukoriato
01-10-2008, 02:52 PM
lol dottorfell its funny u still think u can get another leaked version.

User8711
01-10-2008, 05:04 PM
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kukoriato
01-10-2008, 05:19 PM
we know, cuz they got leaked. i hope nothing gets leaked in the future, i support tjb! and i like to see u cryin!

Hagman1983
01-10-2008, 05:21 PM
I remember I saw the trailer for the latest Zorro picture, and the music was very reminiscent of the POTC theme, anyone know about it and where I could find it.

Thanks

User8711
01-10-2008, 05:27 PM
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Domingo
01-10-2008, 05:30 PM
TJB was one of the composers who came on the forums and asked us not to provide links to their music... I think he was the guy from TSfH.

User8711
01-10-2008, 05:31 PM
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DeePoo
01-10-2008, 05:32 PM
dottorefell, they just tease you, ignore them :)

Domingo
01-10-2008, 05:40 PM
Yeah, just ignore 'em. People can be assholes sometimes.

copterdude
01-10-2008, 06:32 PM
Man, I been listening to the X-Ray and I.M. stuff and alot of it sound the same. For one, they copy each other, and other bands, yet they don't let you play the music they copied off other people. It's very funny to me. They should all be paying Mozart royalties. I should post links to their various works that sound exactly like other artists. Maybe then they will get a clue that they don't own MUSIC! You can't OWN MUSIC. It's like saying I'm going to copyright the phrases, "Excellent cup of tea, remarkable cup of tea, awesome cup of tea, this cup of tea is excellent, this great cup of tea." How many ways can you express yourself in words and in music???? Who has the right to monopolize the way MUSIC is expressed???? Certainly not Vanton....

Ayer26
01-10-2008, 06:47 PM
What trailers has Nemesis done? I wanted to hear some of their work because a lot of people have been saying good things about them.

User8711
01-10-2008, 06:57 PM
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Domingo
01-10-2008, 07:05 PM
Man, I been listening to the X-Ray and I.M. stuff and alot of it sound the same. For one, they copy each other, and other bands, yet they don't let you play the music they copied off other people. It's very funny to me. They should all be paying Mozart royalties. I should post links to their various works that sound exactly like other artists. Maybe then they will get a clue that they don't own MUSIC! You can't OWN MUSIC. It's like saying I'm going to copyright the phrases, "Excellent cup of tea, remarkable cup of tea, awesome cup of tea, this cup of tea is excellent, this great cup of tea." How many ways can you express yourself in words and in music???? Who has the right to monopolize the way MUSIC is expressed???? Certainly not Vanton....

That would lead to the argument that nothing can be copyrighted, since everything that we come up with is based off of other things. Music, schools of thought, inventions... everything is based off of what came before, but it doesn't change the fact that everyone is entitled to credit for their own contributions.

licenturion
01-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Man, I been listening to the X-Ray and I.M. stuff and alot of it sound the same. For one, they copy each other, and other bands, yet they don't let you play the music they copied off other people

Yeah I have noticed that too. Many tracks are from other songs or soundtracks. They just change 5 notes on the 'main theme' or add some percussion.

When I'm listening to epic score or two steps from hell I think many times "where have i heard this before".

Even my mom who knows nothing about this sort music sometimes says 'Hey, what song is that. I know this'

It happend many times that I can hum along with new songs that I never heard before.

But this is still great music of course =)

vanton
01-10-2008, 10:08 PM
Yeah I have noticed that too. Many tracks are from other songs or soundtracks. They just change 5 notes on the 'main theme' or add some percussion.

When I'm listening to epic score or two steps from hell I think many times "where have i heard this before".

Even my mom who knows nothing about this sort music sometimes says 'Hey, what song is that. I know this'

It happend many times that I can hum along with new songs that I never heard before.

But this is still great music of course =)

Yes I'm still watching.

This is an interesting topic - Musically - what is that - is it the notes or is it what you actually hear. Forgetting black notes - an octave has 8 notes... so what can you do with 8 notes... not a lot

Music is actually about emotion and how you interpret things - the arrangement.

I had an uncle in the shoe business - its the same as music when you think its fashion - he said "shoes are all about something NEW that you've seen before" He's right in so many things. Movies??? girl meet boy boy meets girl - they fall out they get back together, computer games - kill everyone on sight??

Its true that the classical masters wrote some major themes - but they were before us and they played with the 8 notes before us!

I do think its fair to say however that Immediate were the first in the trailer business to record huge orchestra and choir for trailers, this was a huge risk and I guess its nice to see that others are going our way - its a compliment really. We actually spend more money on recording our output than a lot of major Hollywood movies.

Wait for TOC 3!!!! The bar has just been put higher.

DeePoo
01-10-2008, 10:22 PM
Well said... Immediate Music had the second.. oh no, the 3rd theme of trailer music I ever heard... Fahrenheit... I listened it 24/7 haha.

2nd was troy teaser trailer music, by musikverngnuegen or something like that
1st one was Requiem for a Dream remix...

But Immediate Music was the one I liked most of the music from... Though I'm curious about TOC 3 Vanton... hope you guys give me the feeling again I had those years ago!

pyroblackbelt
01-10-2008, 10:31 PM
I.M. is awesome, I love almost all their stuff including Globus. Them and X-Ray Dog are by far my favorites

jalaldevil
01-10-2008, 10:37 PM
Yes I'm still watching.

This is an interesting topic - Musically - what is that - is it the notes or is it what you actually hear. Forgetting black notes - an octave has 8 notes... so what can you do with 8 notes... not a lot

Music is actually about emotion and how you interpret things - the arrangement.

I had an uncle in the shoe business - its the same as music when you think its fashion - he said "shoes are all about something NEW that you've seen before" He's right in so many things. Movies??? girl meet boy boy meets girl - they fall out they get back together, computer games - kill everyone on sight??

Its true that the classical masters wrote some major themes - but they were before us and they played with the 8 notes before us!

I do think its fair to say however that Immediate were the first in the trailer business to record huge orchestra and choir for trailers, this was a huge risk and I guess its nice to see that others are going our way - its a compliment really. We actually spend more money on recording our output than a lot of major Hollywood movies.

Wait for TOC 3!!!! The bar has just been put higher.

I can't bear it, give me some details:

Expected release date?
will it be public or not?
How much have they completed yet?

And when making attaching trailers to film, do you guys make the trailer or lets say company like "sony" does.
Do you guys get to watch the whole film to see what genre your going to make it ?
Do you guys give a selection of songs to the company or you guys pick it for them ?

On a side note how much does it cost to produce lets say Abbey road? this includes cost for everything.


I know it's too much to ask but i'd really like to know, some intresting things i have been waiting to ask you but didn't,

thanks for you answer and hope it don't take too much of your time.


PS: people nemesis was good but wasn't that great, i still prefer X ray and immediate stuff any day, but moving mountains is one of the greatest tracks ever...... :) :D

licenturion
01-10-2008, 11:44 PM
I do think its fair to say however that Immediate were the first in the trailer business to record huge orchestra and choir for trailers, this was a huge risk and I guess its nice to see that others are going our way - its a compliment really. We actually spend more money on recording our output than a lot of major Hollywood movies.


Well time for another compliment =)

From all trailer companies that I've heard, you are the most original ones...

The companies that copy the most are Two Steps From Hell and Epic Score IMO.

X-ray Dog has some great original tracks too but they/he don't spend much money on production. You hear that in the tracks. No big real orchestra (most of the time samples) and a small choir but with huge echos...

User8711
01-10-2008, 11:54 PM
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licenturion
01-11-2008, 12:01 AM
TFOACH III - "Burden of Honor" is the best track.

Yes, together with Prometeus.

tarlar
01-11-2008, 12:39 AM
Well, I like Neon Flux myself, although Burden and Prometheus are excellent as well.

AkumaChun
01-11-2008, 12:53 AM
I'm sorry, I'm a total n00b (douchebag) but what's TOC 3 and TFOACH III? Did I miss something in a previous post?

I love and respect trailer music. It's real hard to find of forum about the stuff. I'm glad I found this one.

pyroblackbelt
01-11-2008, 01:42 AM
Well my closest guess to their conversation would be "Themes for Orchestra and Choir" but I don't know what that "H" is or what TOC is.

User8711
01-11-2008, 02:21 AM
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pyroblackbelt
01-11-2008, 02:28 AM
Ah ok, thanks.

I just heard Nemesis, and I must say WOW! I love it! I really wish they would start selling to the public!

AkumaChun
01-11-2008, 03:15 AM
Oh oh thanks.

When did TFOACH 3 come out? On their news page it said spring 07, yet I don't recall hearing about it. I must be outta the loop. And the samples of Nemesis I heard were stanktastic... really really good... But yeah, they should go public retail.

User8711
01-11-2008, 03:32 AM
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AkumaChun
01-11-2008, 04:42 AM
Totally dottorefell.
[email protected]

So what's the single track that's constantly on repeat for you guys? I got James Dooley's Orchestral 2 a while ago, but I still deafen myself with Trinity.

Alastor2588
01-11-2008, 04:58 AM
dottorefall, if you got a hold of me as well at [email protected] I'd be very appreciative.

elgordofus
01-11-2008, 05:31 AM
I can't bear it, give me some details:

And when making attaching trailers to film, do you guys make the trailer or lets say company like "sony" does.
Do you guys get to watch the whole film to see what genre your going to make it ?
Do you guys give a selection of songs to the company or you guys pick it for them ?


I ran into a trailer editor on the Imdb forums once (he did the one for Pirates 3 for example) and got a chance to talk to him a bit about those things.
With some of the bigger films like POTC 3, the studio usually hires several companies to whom they send out dailies as the film is being shot and then they start putting the trailer together. The guys with the best trailer win but sometimes the result is placed together from a variety of trailers. Like the POTC3 one was mostly made by the guy I talked to but he said that there is a part in there that was taken from one of their competitors.

PacaveliTheDon
01-11-2008, 05:33 AM
does anyone have this track...
its called "Gothic Vocalise" by Non-Stop Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R7O2A8R63A

pyroblackbelt
01-11-2008, 06:32 AM
does anyone have this track...
its called "Gothic Vocalise" by Non-Stop Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R7O2A8R63A

I can't find it anywhere, but I want it also. That and the music from the 10,000 B.C. trailer. But no one seems to know what that is.

robertz
01-11-2008, 07:13 AM
The track is called "Gothic Vocalise", it is by Non-Stop Music, from they're Epic#1 album. The track was composed by Holly Frates, and that's as much as I can tell you.

If you wish to have this track than contact Non-Stop Music for more info. Otherwise you may continue to listen to it on youtube.

vanton
01-11-2008, 07:21 AM
I can't bear it, give me some details:

Expected release date?
will it be public or not?
How much have they completed yet?

And when making attaching trailers to film, do you guys make the trailer or lets say company like "sony" does.
Do you guys get to watch the whole film to see what genre your going to make it ?
Do you guys give a selection of songs to the company or you guys pick it for them ?

On a side note how much does it cost to produce lets say Abbey road? this includes cost for everything.


I know it's too much to ask but i'd really like to know, some intresting things i have been waiting to ask you but didn't,

thanks for you answer and hope it don't take too much of your time.

:D

OK its time to let you hear something I guess - http://myspace.com/immediatemusic - I won't ask myself to take this link down! a medley from the new album.

Its finished all bar the mastering and its not for public release and final release date hasn't been decided yet.

Cost information is not for public as its sensitive information but its up there and heading to 6 zero's.

Unless we are doing a "bespoke" trailer its rare for us to see anything as our music is pre existing - one of the reasons we are successful is because editors can cut to the beats very well. We sometimes get asked to recommend cues though.

AkumaChun
01-11-2008, 08:35 AM
Awesome, awesome stuff vanton. Well worth the coins. Beauty is priceless.

Arumon
01-11-2008, 10:17 AM
Pretty neat Vanton, action, comedy, and big epic stuff! Why we love you! ;) (6 zeros...shit!)

DeePoo
01-11-2008, 11:35 AM
haha, that's funny... at 2:10... I like that peace... however it looks like batman begins from hans zimmer and james newton howard...
just wanted to say that

keep up the good music though

marksman303
01-11-2008, 11:48 AM
edited

XRayWolf
01-11-2008, 07:10 PM


It's beautiful montage. But NEMESIS is still the best. Release for public in mid 2008

I love the music that starts at 01:15. Nemesis is different style, both are great I think.

Macksis
01-11-2008, 08:02 PM
Its not fair Vanton! Why wont you take my money and allow me to own a small piece of the greatness? That is to say, its an excellent piece and I can't wait to not be able to purchase a cd with it on it. =)

copterdude
01-11-2008, 08:47 PM
Dear Vanton:

I have a question regarding some of the music on your albums. I am referring to specifically to the albums.....

Youth Oriented Disk #1 Song 09 "The Set Up"--- This sounds exactly like Rolling Stones' "Shattered"

Y.O. Disk #1 Song 11 "Til Dawn"--- Sounds just like The La's "There She Goes."

Y.O. Disk #1 Song 12 "Without a Clue"--- Sounds like one of Sinead Oconnor's semi-recent songs. Even if it isn't her's, it's definitely a nick from a recent popular song.

There are countless other songs where I have noticed striking similarities to down-right copying. Does this count as copyright infringement or "nicking" as it is referred to by you? Or, is this the rearranging of musical notes that only the trailer music industry may use? I believe if these people heard "your" music, they would persue legal action against you, what are your thoughts?

vanton
01-11-2008, 09:00 PM
Dear Vanton:

I have a question regarding some of the music on your albums. I am referring to specifically to the albums.....

Youth Oriented Disk #1 Song 09 "The Set Up"--- This sounds exactly like Rolling Stones' "Shattered"

Y.O. Disk #1 Song 11 "Til Dawn"--- Sounds just like The La's "There She Goes."

Y.O. Disk #1 Song 12 "Without a Clue"--- Sounds like one of Sinead Oconnor's semi-recent songs. Even if it isn't her's, it's definitely a nick from a recent popular song.

There are countless other songs where I have noticed striking similarities to down-right copying. Does this count as copyright infringement or "nicking" as it is referred to by you? Or, is this the rearranging of musical notes that only the trailer music industry may use? I believe if these people heard "your" music, they would persue legal action against you, what are your thoughts?

You forgot YOUTHREE

But I could not possibly comment as you are not allowed to have our music

Sometimes a song does remind you of others - do a google for John Lennon and "the chiffons" all will become clear

vanton
01-11-2008, 09:01 PM
Its not fair Vanton! Why wont you take my money and allow me to own a small piece of the greatness? That is to say, its an excellent piece and I can't wait to not be able to purchase a cd with it on it. =)

so you want my paypal account?

Macksis
01-11-2008, 09:03 PM
so you want my paypal account?

Will I be allowed to have the music?

vanton
01-11-2008, 09:05 PM
Will I be allowed to have the music?

no :-X

Macksis
01-11-2008, 09:08 PM
no :-X

Touche, vanton, well played. I'll quietly await a public release then. There will be one eventually, right? Well another one I should say, besides Epicon?

Nono2007
01-11-2008, 10:57 PM
Instead of giving you a medley of the new album, would you like to listen full songs ? Well here is an exclusive preview of Gladiators & Monsters. http://www.myspace.com/pauldinletir.

AkumaChun
01-11-2008, 11:49 PM
Sweet! Much thanks Nono!

Just awesome. So when will it hit retail?

pyroblackbelt
01-12-2008, 12:25 AM
Instead of giving you a medley of the new album, would you like to listen full songs ? Well here is an exclusive preview of Gladiators & Monsters. http://www.myspace.com/pauldinletir.

Awesome! Thanks

into the storm
01-12-2008, 06:06 AM
Don't worry people. I'm sure if you wait long enough, Globus will put nonsense lyrics over the music and release a CD of TFOC 3.

vanton
01-12-2008, 07:48 AM
Don't worry people. I'm sure if you wait long enough, Globus will put nonsense lyrics over the music and release a CD of TFOC 3.

we'd better not do that or you won't be able to plaster links all over the place after you "acquire" it

dmxdmlz
01-12-2008, 09:42 AM
we'd better not do that or you won't be able to plaster links all over the place after you "acquire" it

Because the religious themed songs in the last one made a fantastic album?

licenturion
01-12-2008, 10:47 AM
I would probably buy the new globus album if it has much better solo singers (male + female) than on the first one =)

That was the only thing I hated on the first album...

Nono2007
01-12-2008, 11:44 AM
Folks if you like Epic / Choral themes I recommend these 2 albums http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=265010827&s=143441
Track "Storm"
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=267833022&s=143441
Track "Hanging & "Escape"

Arumon
01-12-2008, 02:31 PM
Don't worry people. I'm sure if you wait long enough, Globus will put nonsense lyrics over the music and release a CD of TFOC 3.

wow, "you can always depend on the kindness of strangers..." :-P

vanton
01-12-2008, 04:42 PM
Because the religious themed songs in the last one made a fantastic album?

You obviously have a different album to me then, or maybe you downloaded it and are assuming its religious. If you buy the album you will see the booklet is great.

Or maybe because its choirs?

Its true that its easy to assume that, but for example one you may think about is Prelude - read the lyrics properly, then turn 180 degrees and you may get it.

A clue? its about something that is constantly all over the news these days.

I'm not going to get into deep discussion about it here - because no matter what I say you will diss us as you have fairly consistently

Macksis
01-12-2008, 05:54 PM
You obviously have a different album to me then, or maybe you downloaded it and are assuming its religious. If you buy the album you will see the booklet is great.

Or maybe because its choirs?

Its true that its easy to assume that, but for example one you may think about is Prelude - read the lyrics properly, then turn 180 degrees and you may get it.

A clue? its about something that is constantly all over the news these days.

I'm not going to get into deep discussion about it here - because no matter what I say you will diss us as you have fairly consistently

Vanton, I'm sorry to tell you, I didnt BUY (as in not "acquired") Epicon for the booklet. To tell you the truth I havent even thumbed through it yet. Its the music that we care about, not the lyrics. You changed the music in order to reach a broader audience and in the process alienated your core fans. Now I dont know what kind of advertising you've done elsewhere, but not many in the US knows who Globus is, I assure you.

And as far as dissing you goes, unless I've missed something I believe the links for your stuff has been removed. If thats not a show of respect I dont know what is. Yet you constantly assume that we'd prefer to "acquire" music then purchase it. Many of us here have very extensive CD collections. You should consider that before jumping to conclusions.

Nono2007
01-12-2008, 06:22 PM
Macksis, Globus/Epicon is not well know in other countries as well. I guess you never sell millions of CD when you decide to release another version of "Porque Te Vas" - a song which was famous in the mid 70' !!! Also taking into consideration that the Globus project is a Carmina Burana, it is not what we will call a new concept.

vanton
01-12-2008, 06:35 PM
Vanton, I'm sorry to tell you, I didnt BUY (as in not "acquired") Epicon for the booklet. To tell you the truth I havent even thumbed through it yet. Its the music that we care about, not the lyrics. You changed the music in order to reach a broader audience and in the process alienated your core fans. Now I dont know what kind of advertising you've done elsewhere, but not many in the US knows who Globus is, I assure you.

Thats because its not been released there yet - many in the US have bought it on Amazon for over 40 bucks! Mad I know. Its only had a very tiny test release in the UK - which proved the market is there but we have to move slowly.

Our core fans are our clients, the movie distributors and the audience that go to see the movies we help promote - not people who scour the internet looking for rar files.

Its nice you enjoy our music, this showed there is or could be a market


And as far as dissing you goes, unless I've missed something I believe the links for your stuff has been removed. If thats not a show of respect I dont know what is. Yet you constantly assume that we'd prefer to "acquire" music then purchase it. Many of us here have very extensive CD collections. You should consider that before jumping to conclusions.

If you looked at what I was replying to - it was about the Globus lyrics, nothing about IM in fact I didn't even mention that area.

There is a world outside of this forum and our links still remain in many places.

I'm sure of 2 things:-

1. if Globus were released some here would purchase and maybe go to a show. We would also gain audience from those who have never even heard our original cues without the voice over and sound effects.

and 2. if successful there are many who would simply move onto something else that is not available, isn't that what this thread is all about? Being one of the few who have material? From all the bragging I can only assume thats what its about.

Yes - I am happy that our music has been taken down, but why have all the other links to other producers remained? Its illegal regardless who gets on here and argues (or discusses).

vanton
01-12-2008, 06:43 PM
Macksis, Globus/Epicon is not well know in other countries as well. I guess you never sell millions of CD when you decide to release another version of "Porque Te Vas" - a song which was famous in the mid 70' !!! Also taking into consideration that the Globus project is a Carmina Burana, it is not what we will call a new concept.

Well Burana was 150 years ago and never have we said that this is a new concept.

Hopefully people realised that Porque was a bit of a gag - some fun at the end of intense listening - the album actually has no gaps, there's sound design snip[pets between each track so after over an hour of intensity - porque comes on and you say "what the f@@k" Personally I didn't think it worked but others like the idea, we actually had lots of problems getting permission to do it. I think it will be lost from later releases as will a few of the others.

As I said Epicon is only released in the UK as a small test so its not surprising no one has heard it.

Macksis
01-12-2008, 06:53 PM
Our core fans are our clients, the movie distributors and the audience that go to see the movies we help promote - not people who scour the internet looking for rar files.

We only scour, because right now its the only way to hear your wonderful music, outside of the trailers they associated with.


If you looked at what I was replying to - it was about the Globus lyrics, nothing about IM in fact I didn't even mention that area.

Arent those IM cues you're using along with the lyrics?


and 2. if successful there are many who would simply move onto something else that is not available, isn't that what this thread is all about? Being one of the few who have material? From all the bragging I can only assume thats what its about.

If you're referring to the whole "I have Nemesis, and you dont" incident, well I dont think I can really comment on that. I understand why you'd say that, but I like to think that this forum isnt about bragging about who has what.



Yes - I am happy that our music has been taken down, but why have all the other links to other producers remained? Its illegal regardless who gets on here and argues (or discusses).

They havent asked =)

Nono2007
01-12-2008, 06:56 PM
Vanton, Epicon can be found in other countries under "Import". UK is not anymore an isolated island.

Intersting your Rock Band http://www.myspace.com/vanton. To bad for those who don't like Dann voice !!!

finalfantim
01-12-2008, 07:03 PM
As I said Epicon is only released in the UK as a small test so its not surprising no one has heard it.

+ You can see some more marketing now (for example) with the Live Concert in Wembley to be broadcasted in the UK.

"Globus LIVE at Wembley - Premieres in the UK on 30th December on sky 158 (Film24) plus repeats over the next few weeks.

For those outside the UK - tune into joost.com and find film24 - Its a great channel and they will be loading the show on Joost shortly so you can sit back and enjoy the Wembley show whenever you want, or just set your sky pluss to 158 30th december!"

So....when will it be available on Joost vanton? And i mean in terms of days/weeks cause i simply cant wait to see it :P
Ow, and i cant wait for the dvd aswell...
...hard times...

Arumon
01-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Hopefully people realised that Porque was a bit of a gag - some fun at the end of intense listening - the album actually has no gaps, there's sound design snip[pets between each track so after over an hour of intensity - porque comes on and you say "what the f@@k" Personally I didn't think it worked but others like the idea, we actually had lots of problems getting permission to do it. I think it will be lost from later releases as will a few of the others.

As I said Epicon is only released in the UK as a small test so its not surprising no one has heard it.

That track seemed really out of place to me really, I wondered why it was on there in the first place :p
But hey, muscicians do crazy things so wth.

They all do have a point though that the actual CD is pretty hard to find in regular shops outside the UK. It's such a shame, you either have to be familiar with IM- meaning you download illegal music or you wouldn't know about Globus (outside the UK). Isn't it kinda crazy you consider it a 'small test' when it's so cost intensive to produce one of these albums??
Everyone knows Britney Spears, but noone has ever heard of Globus... sad, all the trailermusicfans should combine forces and put Globus on the map.

robertz
01-12-2008, 09:24 PM
They havent asked =)

They haven't asked? So your saying production companies need to give you permission to take their links off? Your not smart enough to do it on your own?

Macksis, with all due respect, just because you like the music doesn't mean that you have to have it. You have to understand that it's "off limits" to the general public and if you don't respect that, then don't expect these companies to give any back.

As far as I can tell, these "core fans" have disrespected and violated the rules, the worst thing that they could have done. These are not multi-billionaire companies, they cannot please everyone.

licenturion
01-12-2008, 09:46 PM
That and the music from the 10,000 B.C. trailer. But no one seems to know what that is.

I went to see National Treasure yesterday. They played the 10,000 BC trailer. The song in the ending is Epic Score - Empire (A version) of the album Epic Action & Adventure 2.

It's kinda cool to watch trailers these days now that I know most of the epic songs, so I can hum along... =)

lulutrad
01-12-2008, 09:48 PM
dottorefell !!!!!!!!!!!

Please contact me at [email protected] (msn messenger)

:) see you soon...:)

desiprince1212
01-12-2008, 09:56 PM
is Nemesis out? and the trailer for Jumpers 'moving mountains' is on it, right?

licenturion
01-12-2008, 10:02 PM
is Nemesis out? and the trailer for Jumpers 'moving mountains' is on it, right?

right to the first question and right to the second =)

desiprince1212
01-12-2008, 10:03 PM
great. second question, where can you find it and if anyone has it can they upload it?

Arumon
01-12-2008, 10:31 PM
They haven't asked? So your saying production companies need to give you permission to take their links off? Your not smart enough to do it on your own?

Macksis, with all due respect, just because you like the music doesn't mean that you have to have it. You have to understand that it's "off limits" to the general public and if you don't respect that, then don't expect these companies to give any back.

As far as I can tell, these "core fans" have disrespected and violated the rules, the worst thing that they could have done. These are not multi-billionaire companies, they cannot please everyone.

I can agree with that Robertz! But how do you propose to 'alter' the situation we're in now? If you close this tread an new one will pop up in no time on another site. The number of 'core fans' is growing and it's not gonna stop, look at how many hits this stupid tread it getting!! We're reaching the 6 zero's...what's your proposal?

Macksis
01-13-2008, 02:31 AM
They haven't asked? So your saying production companies need to give you permission to take their links off? Your not smart enough to do it on your own?

Macksis, with all due respect, just because you like the music doesn't mean that you have to have it. You have to understand that it's "off limits" to the general public and if you don't respect that, then don't expect these companies to give any back.

As far as I can tell, these "core fans" have disrespected and violated the rules, the worst thing that they could have done. These are not multi-billionaire companies, they cannot please everyone.

It was a joke. Hence the smiley face. But what do you want me to do? Accept that I'm not allowed to have it? Then give me something I am allowed to have. Its that simple. I am more than happy and more than willing to pay for the music that I enjoy so much, but there is a serious lack of options. I love trailer music, you could say that I'm addicted to it. I have nothing but respect for the people that produce it. And I dont feel that me wanting the music is a sign of disrespect.

xagonyxscenex
01-13-2008, 03:04 AM
it really is a shame that more of this kind of music isn't available to the general public. I know for me it motivates the hell out of me any time I listen to it. Be it while I'm working out or just about life in general. It would be great to have more of this super energetic orchestrated music available to the mass public.

robertz
01-13-2008, 04:02 AM
I feel the same way. The disrespect I meant, was the uploading and posting of links to the albums. That is a big mistake. Let me give a hint: If you come across links to the albums in the future, download at your own risk, but don't pass it along to others. When you 'obtain it', you don't have to tell the whole world about it.

What's my proposal? I have a few but the main one is to ask Vanton. Ask him if there is a future in trailer music for the general public. This won't happen tomorrow or in a week, but maybe 1-2 years from now.

licenturion
01-13-2008, 09:30 AM
^^
There are 2 option imo
1. The companies aknowledge the fact that there are a lot of fans out there and release a cd with the ORIGINAL songs to the general public.
2. The companies don't alter their behaviour and everythings just goes on but the trailer fan scene goes 'underground'

But I'm glad to see that a big company like 2 steps from hell will make a first step in the right direction. They are planning a public release with the best tracks. And they promised here not to alter the music.
I'm really glad about this. The people from 2 steps from hell posted twice on this board and then do something for all the trailer fans out there. By doing this I think they deserve a lot of respect. I is certainly better than some other companies that keep on complaining and whining but don't do anything about it.

Now I only hope that 2SFH release there best tracks that everybody loves and wants. And that's Nemesis =)

Arumon
01-13-2008, 01:59 PM
@ licenturion
LOL Nemesis must be the holy grail for many of you ;)
I hope they don’t make the second choice, if they do, I think it’s gonna hurt them big time. Actually I don’t think they’ll be able to stop it with the current technology.
Just look how drastic digital media has changed in the last 5 years. In 5 years from now, everybody will have an home editing suite on their PC. Probably standard built-in software. To edit all your family movies to your own hearts content. You’ll most likely be able to import any music files you can get your hands on.
If the big companies haven’t figured out a way to stop the illegal distribution of their digital media, their ’exclusivity’ will become very hard to guarantee. There has to be only one person who puts ’confidential content’ up on the net, it’ll take a few days for the link to appear in google and there we go again. And it goes worldwide, digital boundaries seem non-existent.
Commercial releases is a very good sign for us trailer fans but it may also be the last measure to gain a little more money if they don’t figure out a way to ’contain’ their music to just the distribution companies.

Another problem which is striking is why are we even aware of the future releases of 2SFH or IM or any other companies when we’re not supposed to get exposed to it in the first place until we see the trailers?
We know TFOAC3 and nemesis2 are coming but having that info out in the open is adding oil to the fire.
It’s like saying here’s a sample of what you people want so much but don’t dare to go looking for a downloadlink. Of course, the companies have to advertise on the net to get their clients but you can’t deny the way it’s handled is kinda asking for illegal uploads.

Solutions I have none. Option 1:The music companies add something to the music file that it becomes unplayable to a general PC. And thus that the file simply is worthless to the general audience and only usefull to the clients who bought the licence. But any digital media can be hacked, cracked, fragged so a long term solution this is not.
Option 2: distribution companies revalue their opinion about the "exclusivity" as this really seems the root of the problem.

@ robertz
I have never actively uploaded this music or shared it around. :) Respect for something you admire can go along way. It is a big mistake that the links are up but it’s even more sad that I had to find out about this music the way I did. All the positive comments posted here testify there is a market for this type of music if it was accesible for mass consumption.
Here’s a funny little story that’s worth mentioning:
Years ago there was a little movie called ’1942- Conquest of Paradise.’ It was released to theatres and bombed like crazy. YEARS afterwards, almost by chance, someone started playing the main theme on the radio, next to the regular pop and rock songs.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eOcU2euuq6I

People took notice of it as it stood out like hell amongst the other songs. Due to that, people began requesting the soundtrack on a massive scale and it became one of those CD’s that went mainstream, years after the movie was released. To this day, people just remember the music.
My point is, people who’ve heard this trailermusic and are not familiar with it, all say "that sounds cool, what is it??" It must mean something. :) It may not be everybody’s cup of tea but the epic stuff is surely noticed by people. And actually, it’s pretty rare to find something that sounds good and that you’re not supposed to acquire. Usually you’re bombarded with songs that don’t mean anything to you ;) Okay, the rant is over, I’ve had my say. Adios. :)

vanton
01-13-2008, 07:03 PM
I feel the same way. The disrespect I meant, was the uploading and posting of links to the albums. That is a big mistake. Let me give a hint: If you come across links to the albums in the future, download at your own risk, but don't pass it along to others. When you 'obtain it', you don't have to tell the whole world about it.

We have seen just from this one thread on one of many many forums how people don't read or think in these ways, I think we have had a few consider but the vast majority (as I have said previously) ignore and grab whatever they can whenever they can - Imagine the scenario that says you share one I share one - how many do this? maybe 1% - reduce that by whatever % you want for your theory - much as I would love to believe this - its not the nature of the beast.

Humanity has become a "me me me" culture and its not just in copyright matters. People want something for nothing or for the minimum price they can find. How many people think about cruelty in the way chickens are factory farmed - from chick to slaughter in 39 days? no daylight, 1 hour of darkness per 24 hours, pay double and let them see the outside, eat some worms, sun themselves - not an option for the majority.

Music - Oh there's a link, all I need do is click it and I get it for free - the artist doesn't need to eat .... I think you see where things are.

Indeed why does someone register on this forum? its to get something for nothing - This site is not free - its ad driven, so her we are talking about things and they make an income, someone has to pay in the end - you all click to get music at say rapidshare - how many of you have actually paid for the service? BUT because its music, movies, software whatever and you can obtain without payment, ITS OK - In fact the CREATORS of the material are the ones who are at the beginning of the map but actually end up getting nothing - This forum gets income, the servers who host get paid, your internet supplier gets paid, the computer manufacturer gets paid, Hmm what about the author???

I'm not sure why I am typing this to be honest, the guys who get it will read digest and maybe reply by PM or here - the rest will simply not bother to read or just put it down to "here that arse goes again"


What's my proposal? I have a few but the main one is to ask Vanton. Ask him if there is a future in trailer music for the general public. This won't happen tomorrow or in a week, but maybe 1-2 years from now.

Bluntly - in the pure way you guys want it? No

Given what I've said above - retail of our type of music will only work if its acceptable to the majority and receives radio play TV play and live concerts that are exciting and huge.

Now in many cases thats OK but the cost of recording (OK - i'm not sure if others actually get nearly 200 people involved as artists and pay them to record) for us makes advertising the only feasible route to recoup the costs and make a bit of a living.

Unless of course we could create a street team worldwide how will hit radio in their area and tell them about this type of music, convince them to take a chance... Unfortunately that takes time and effort and people simply do not have either.

Our reasoning behind releasing in the UK waqs because of this, its a small country with a vibrant music business - and we thought we could get the media to play things, however in these days of multinational corporations running radio - they have to stick to a strict format - oldies, rap - the Uk doesn't even have a major TV show for new acts or even the top 20 anymore.

licenturion
01-13-2008, 08:56 PM
Vanton,

I read your opinion but you always keep saying that we won't get the unaltered music because it's too expensive too make...

But you said earlier you recorded everything again for globus. Doesn't rerecording things, hirings singers, writing lyrics and hiring a rock band make it even more expensive??

By releasing the original material you don't need to make new costs + it's what people actually want so you may even sell more cd's than with globus.

So no extra rerecording costs + more cd sales => more profit => more money for future recordings... Or am I missing something??

Anyway, I always pay the artists when possible when I like music. Most of the time I download an album, listen to it twice. If I like it I delete the album and buy it in the store. Then I rip it again to my PC in the highest quality possible (I'm an audiophile =)) When a CD doesn't come out here I buy it through iTunes Plus if possible...
The only reason why I am here at this board is for video game music because it gets rarely an official release. Luckily this situation is changing and a lot of AAA game OST's can be bought these days. I also got to know music like yours through this board...

Anyway I will still keep hoping that some companies do a commercial release.
And if globus uses great vocaliststs on all songs like in the song "madre terra" I'll buy the new album for sure...

DeePoo
01-13-2008, 10:10 PM
you guys really write books these days :)

chrismm42
01-14-2008, 12:57 AM
You want a book? :)



So no extra rerecording costs + more cd sales => more profit => more money for future recordings... Or am I missing something??

I believe you are missing something. What is the point of creating more trailer music? There is a ton of trailer music already made, produced, and available, so why make more? Because it's new, and different, and people like new and different.

Production companies want music that is different, and unheard by people. When trailers are played, the reason to use trailer music is to make the viewer go, 'Wow that sounds awesome. I want to go see that movie'. They don't want, 'Oh that's that song, from that artist. I've heard that a million times; boring.' Okay, slightly exaggerated, but this is the point!

[Now trailers do have music from movie soundtracks, and even from popular artists. However, the point of trailer music still remains regardless]

Production companies pay trailer music companies not only for the song, but for the exclusiveness, and the rarity. If people are downloading these songs off the internet, these people are directly hurting the revenue of the trailer music companies because production companies don't want to pay the same amount of money for music that has made its rounds on the web, and which more people have heard. Therefore the commercialization of trailer music defeats the entire purpose of trailer music! Trailer music is music for trailers, and not music for listening pleasure.

Until trailer companies are willing to exclude rarity from the pricing guidelines, trailer music will never be available to the public.

I think you may agree with the previous assessment Vanton; I seem to remember you agreeing earlier in the thread.

Now what might be possible is for trailer music companies to release old trailer music albums. For example, if the trailer company said, 'We will release this album in 2 years, people may be more willing to wait and pay, especially with something already to chew on. The exclusiveness is still a factor in new releases, and the production companies will be able to get that higher price. After all, rarity does decrease over time. If trailer companies did do this in the future, fans would have to hope that they wouldn't get greedy and not release the 'good' songs. Popular songs are by definition not rare, but this is all hypothetical, so I won't go any further. This is the only solution I can think of for this small 'crisis' and I doubt it will be put into effect. Too much to risk, probably not enough to gain.

pyroblackbelt
01-14-2008, 03:08 AM
I went to see National Treasure yesterday. They played the 10,000 BC trailer. The song in the ending is Epic Score - Empire (A version) of the album Epic Action & Adventure 2.

It's kinda cool to watch trailers these days now that I know most of the epic songs, so I can hum along... =)

Thank you!!! I'm glad I finally got an answer. I actually just got that album and was about to listen to it! Thanks again.

vanton
01-14-2008, 07:19 AM
You want a book? :)



I believe you are missing something. What is the point of creating more trailer music? There is a ton of trailer music already made, produced, and available, so why make more? Because it's new, and different, and people like new and different.

Production companies want music that is different, and unheard by people. When trailers are played, the reason to use trailer music is to make the viewer go, 'Wow that sounds awesome. I want to go see that movie'. They don't want, 'Oh that's that song, from that artist. I've heard that a million times; boring.' Okay, slightly exaggerated, but this is the point!

[Now trailers do have music from movie soundtracks, and even from popular artists. However, the point of trailer music still remains regardless]

Production companies pay trailer music companies not only for the song, but for the exclusiveness, and the rarity. If people are downloading these songs off the internet, these people are directly hurting the revenue of the trailer music companies because production companies don't want to pay the same amount of money for music that has made its rounds on the web, and which more people have heard. Therefore the commercialization of trailer music defeats the entire purpose of trailer music! Trailer music is music for trailers, and not music for listening pleasure.

Until trailer companies are willing to exclude rarity from the pricing guidelines, trailer music will never be available to the public.

I think you may agree with the previous assessment Vanton; I seem to remember you agreeing earlier in the thread.

Now what might be possible is for trailer music companies to release old trailer music albums. For example, if the trailer company said, 'We will release this album in 2 years, people may be more willing to wait and pay, especially with something already to chew on. The exclusiveness is still a factor in new releases, and the production companies will be able to get that higher price. After all, rarity does decrease over time. If trailer companies did do this in the future, fans would have to hope that they wouldn't get greedy and not release the 'good' songs. Popular songs are by definition not rare, but this is all hypothetical, so I won't go any further. This is the only solution I can think of for this small 'crisis' and I doubt it will be put into effect. Too much to risk, probably not enough to gain.

You have hit the nail Chrismm42, so for you the purists this won't be interesting because its old.

licenturion
01-14-2008, 08:57 AM
You want a book? :)
When trailers are played, the reason to use trailer music is to make the viewer go, 'Wow that sounds awesome. I want to go see that movie'.


No offence intended but isn't this really superficial???

The main reason people should go to the movies is when they want to enjoy a good story with good acting.
The main reason to go to a movie should not be "wow, this looks great or wow this sounds great". It's like buying a book based on the cover picture. I'm not that fond on trailer because they let you see the 20 best parts of a movie...

Besides if companies don't want to do a commercial release I think it's a good idea to include the 1 or 2 trailer tracks on the official soundtrack of the movie. I've read many reviews from customers on sites where they say "I'm so disappointed. The best songs from the trailer aren't on the soundtrack."

Besides the trailer tracks from major blockbusters always leak. Limewire is full of them... And aren't the tracks devaluated when already used for a major production??

I've got a question for Vanton: Will there be another Globus album and will it be based upon "Themes for choir and orchestra 3"?

vanton
01-14-2008, 09:08 AM
The main reason people should go to the movies is when they want to enjoy a good story with good acting.
The main reason to go to a movie should not be "wow, this looks great or wow this sounds great". It's like buying a book based on the cover picture.

Besides if companies don't want to do a commercial release I think it's a good idea to include the 1 or 2 trailer tracks on the official soundtrack of the movie. I've read many reviews from customers on sites where they say "I'm so disappointed. The best songs from the trailer aren't on the soundtrack."

Besides the trailer tracks from major blockbusters always leak. Limewire is full of them...

I've got a question for Vanton: Will there be another Globus album and will it be based upon "Themes for choir and orchestra 3"?

I think you give the public too much credit for intelligence - I'm not being rude but its a fact that trailer music and a good trailer brings the audience, if it didn't they would spend millions on TV spots etc.

You also answered your own point - people do but a book based on its cover.

Why would a company include the trailer music on a soundtrack? They don't own the music, its not exclusive to them and is there for just one thing - to sell the movie.

A bit of history for you which none of you will believe... Soundtrack albums used to be released and just a few pressed and released. The reason? To make the recording of the music cheaper as it was cheaper to record for a record release than for a movie - Thats when Unions ruled musicians.

I've already answered the Globus question

licenturion
01-14-2008, 09:49 AM
I think you give the public too much credit for intelligence - I'm not being rude but its a fact that trailer music and a good trailer brings the audience, if it didn't they would spend millions on TV spots etc.

lol =)
It's the same with gaming these day. For a lot of people a good game means good graphics. It's a shame because the real gems are unnoticed. Anyway like I said earlier already: it's not my way of thinking... For me: content >>> looks



A bit of history for you which none of you will believe... Soundtrack albums used to be released and just a few pressed and released. The reason? To make the recording of the music cheaper as it was cheaper to record for a record release than for a movie - Thats when Unions ruled musicians.

I think it's a good thing a lot of movie and game companies invest a lot of money on soundtracks these days and release them to the public. The quality of scores has increased a lot over the past years. Besides it a win win situation.

The movie companies their movies become better + they can sell the soundtrack and make money.
The composers earn more money and new composers get a chance
The customers can enjoy better music



I've already answered the Globus question
Got it =)
We are actually working on the next globus album - 4 tracks almost sorted.
But you didn't say if it's based on TFOAC3 :-\

AkumaChun
01-14-2008, 10:12 AM
So, what you guys are saying is trailer music is essentially glorified commercial music. A soundtrack for an ad.

I'm not sure I believe that, and I'm not sure the composers of the music believe that.

You're saying the companys that produce, what is it, a 50 person chorus plus how many in the orchestra all do it for an ad that'll most likely be forgotten untill the dvd extras? I think these people have a little more pride in their work, enough so that they should want their music released publicly.

I know the state of "internet buccaneering," it sucks but that's not stopping other companies, and at least they'll be getting they're name out there. Wouldn't the main financial revenue be coming from the movie studios that want they're music in their ad anyways? There might be a supply and demand dimension (I'm sure there is), but why not make a limited release? At least that'll satisfy people like us who truly love this stuff, and the company will make a litte scratch on the side.

Maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Probably don't.

licenturion
01-14-2008, 10:44 AM
So, what you guys are saying is trailer music is essentially glorified commercial music. A soundtrack for an ad.

I'm not sure I believe that, and I'm not sure the composers of the music believe that.


That's true. The composer of Nemesis posted here a while ago and he's very proud of his work. He was like "Guys, the best is yet to come" and more of those things. He was really passionate about his work, like it should be...

That's the difference between the composers of the music and the marketing/sales department of a company.

For the composers it's all about expressing themselves and the enjoyment of the listeners. For the marketing department it's all about money... The composers are not thinking "will this track make a lot of money" when they are composing something. That's also the reason why good new artists don't get many chances these days. If it isn't mainstream, sounds good or looks good it will not make enough money...

But it's logical that the main goal for companies is to make profits of course. Otherwise they have no money to make new things...

AkumaChun
01-14-2008, 11:01 AM
You're right, totally. Sucks how things work. I'd really like to see some of these guys get their dues.

It's funny how the majority of people idolize half drunk whores douching a micorphone while composers of such high caliber aren't noticed at all. Maybe I'm being harsh or don't know what music sounds like, but it seems quality gets brushed under the carpet these days. Ah, what-a-ya gonna do?

licenturion
01-14-2008, 11:51 AM
It's funny how the majority of people idolize half drunk whores douching a micorphone while composers of such high caliber aren't noticed at all.

When I read that sentence, suddenly Britney Spears comes to mind =)



Maybe I'm being harsh or don't know what music sounds like, but it seems quality gets brushed under the carpet these days. Ah, what-a-ya gonna do?

Nahhhh, you totally right. I'm gonna be harsh too now:
Most people are just to dumb to appreciate real and good music. Most people just want superficial music. A dumb sample repeated for 3 minutes with a 'singer' repeating the same 5 sentences and a lot of "oehhh", "ahhhh" and "yeahhhh". Most people go for the "easy listening" and hot videoclips.

I appreciate albums that need extensive listening before I really like with real instruments and great lyrics. Even after listening 200 times such albums remain great and everytime you listen you discover something new.

When you listen 5 times to a mainstream song, I'm usually so tired of it that I don't want to hear it anymore...

I'm a fan of soundtracks and symphonic metal like Nightwish. I actually I don't care about how the singer look or I don't care about their new videos. I care about great music, great lyrics, a great voice and most important great live performances.

chrismm42
01-14-2008, 12:25 PM
So, what you guys are saying is trailer music is essentially glorified commercial music. A soundtrack for an ad.

I'm not sure I believe that, and I'm not sure the composers of the music believe that.

You're saying the companys that produce, what is it, a 50 person chorus plus how many in the orchestra all do it for an ad that'll most likely be forgotten untill the dvd extras? I think these people have a little more pride in their work, enough so that they should want their music released publicly.


Well, I hate to say it, but trailer music is pretty much what you don't want it to be. From the Immediate Music website :"Our unique compilation of distinguished cues are targeted specifically toward Major Motion Picture and Television Advertising Campaigns." While the composers may want their music to be heard by more people, they know what they're getting into when they decide to work for a trailer music production company. The fact that it is called trailer music pretty much says it all right there. Now if the piece of music is really good, then the composer is likely to hear it in more than one trailer. It's not just made for one trailer, or one movie.

And just as a side note, here's another bit from Immediate Music's website :"We try not to license our music to any other commercial advertising areas in order to maintain as much exclusivity to the film studios, but we do see a real desire in many areas of television product advertising campaigns to capture the same dramatic and emotional appeal as film advertising." It seems exclusivity is not limited to the divide between companies and the public, but also to television. I guess the general public aren't the only ones missing out.

I do agree that the quality of composing in trailer music is wonderful, and it is definitely an under appreciated area of the music industry. But the ironic and sad thing is, that's the way it's supposed to be, or the way that trailer music companies want it. Maybe there will be a trailer music company one day that will come about and decide to not only sell licensing to production companies, but also to the general public. In fact, with so many of them out there, I'm surprised more aren't doing this. But there's obviously something to the exclusive nature of trailer music, because most companies still limit the distribution. If the composers want their music to have the ability to be bought, then they will work for whatever companies will allow it. All I'm saying I guess is that if a composer is not happy with the distributution of their music, then perhaps trailer music is the wrong business. If there are many composers out there who are unhappy with how things work, I hope that they decide to break free of the current system, and try something new.

(And ditto that question about when Globus will be on Joost)

x-ray_fan
01-14-2008, 12:36 PM
I found this on youtube some mixes from X-Ray & Two Steps.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0FekNUNTvck

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cxVltuJgx2c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAcyCv2AMys

That is a very great music i think, so check it out.

HHHBK�
01-14-2008, 02:54 PM
Hey x-ray_fan,

Any update on those new X-Ray Dog albums 29-33?

Toontjed
01-14-2008, 03:35 PM
Most X-ray links are down now. Most notably Mighty Dog, K-9 Empire, cerberus etc. Any chances of reuploading it ?

Arumon
01-14-2008, 04:56 PM
Chrismm, you are my new hero. LOL

99,000 views...this thread is going for gold...

xagonyxscenex
01-14-2008, 09:30 PM
We have seen just from this one thread on one of many many forums how people don't read or think in these ways, I think we have had a few consider but the vast majority (as I have said previously) ignore and grab whatever they can whenever they can - Imagine the scenario that says you share one I share one - how many do this? maybe 1% - reduce that by whatever % you want for your theory - much as I would love to believe this - its not the nature of the beast.

Humanity has become a "me me me" culture and its not just in copyright matters. People want something for nothing or for the minimum price they can find. How many people think about cruelty in the way chickens are factory farmed - from chick to slaughter in 39 days? no daylight, 1 hour of darkness per 24 hours, pay double and let them see the outside, eat some worms, sun themselves - not an option for the majority.

Music - Oh there's a link, all I need do is click it and I get it for free - the artist doesn't need to eat .... I think you see where things are.

Indeed why does someone register on this forum? its to get something for nothing - This site is not free - its ad driven, so her we are talking about things and they make an income, someone has to pay in the end - you all click to get music at say rapidshare - how many of you have actually paid for the service? BUT because its music, movies, software whatever and you can obtain without payment, ITS OK - In fact the CREATORS of the material are the ones who are at the beginning of the map but actually end up getting nothing - This forum gets income, the servers who host get paid, your internet supplier gets paid, the computer manufacturer gets paid, Hmm what about the author???

I'm not sure why I am typing this to be honest, the guys who get it will read digest and maybe reply by PM or here - the rest will simply not bother to read or just put it down to "here that arse goes again"



Bluntly - in the pure way you guys want it? No

Given what I've said above - retail of our type of music will only work if its acceptable to the majority and receives radio play TV play and live concerts that are exciting and huge.

Now in many cases thats OK but the cost of recording (OK - i'm not sure if others actually get nearly 200 people involved as artists and pay them to record) for us makes advertising the only feasible route to recoup the costs and make a bit of a living.

Unless of course we could create a street team worldwide how will hit radio in their area and tell them about this type of music, convince them to take a chance... Unfortunately that takes time and effort and people simply do not have either.

Our reasoning behind releasing in the UK waqs because of this, its a small country with a vibrant music business - and we thought we could get the media to play things, however in these days of multinational corporations running radio - they have to stick to a strict format - oldies, rap - the Uk doesn't even have a major TV show for new acts or even the top 20 anymore.

illegal downloading will continue to happen until prices for movies and CD's go way down. Our economy is complete shit. The money my generation (ppl in their 20's) make does not go as far as our parents money did when they were your age, and certainly doesn't go nearly as far as our grandparents. Simple as that.

xagonyxscenex
01-14-2008, 09:34 PM
Vanton,

I read your opinion but you always keep saying that we won't get the unaltered music because it's too expensive too make...

But you said earlier you recorded everything again for globus. Doesn't rerecording things, hirings singers, writing lyrics and hiring a rock band make it even more expensive??

By releasing the original material you don't need to make new costs + it's what people actually want so you may even sell more cd's than with globus.

So no extra rerecording costs + more cd sales => more profit => more money for future recordings... Or am I missing something??

Anyway, I always pay the artists when possible when I like music. Most of the time I download an album, listen to it twice. If I like it I delete the album and buy it in the store. Then I rip it again to my PC in the highest quality possible (I'm an audiophile =)) When a CD doesn't come out here I buy it through iTunes Plus if possible...
The only reason why I am here at this board is for video game music because it gets rarely an official release. Luckily this situation is changing and a lot of AAA game OST's can be bought these days. I also got to know music like yours through this board...

Anyway I will still keep hoping that some companies do a commercial release.
And if globus uses great vocaliststs on all songs like in the song "madre terra" I'll buy the new album for sure...

that and presumably they make all their money back by selling to studios...so any money made on CD is just extra cash. I don't buy that excuse either. No way they don't release it cause it costs to much.

vanton
01-16-2008, 08:04 PM
that and presumably they make all their money back by selling to studios...so any money made on CD is just extra cash. I don't buy that excuse either. No way they don't release it cause it costs to much.

don't buy it then, your choice our money.

its not happy families where both can be done with new material .. we have to put our resources where we can get the best return and then make a bit of a living.

If we release commercially the appeal for advertisers goes down, so to release this type of material you have to either compose and record new material or release old material that the advertisers don't value anymore, so we get beaten up either way.

I have to also add that if we did release new material direct we would need to sell around 700,000 albums to break even.

xagonyxscenex
01-16-2008, 08:57 PM
don't buy it then, your choice our money.

its not happy families where both can be done with new material .. we have to put our resources where we can get the best return and then make a bit of a living.

If we release commercially the appeal for advertisers goes down, so to release this type of material you have to either compose and record new material or release old material that the advertisers don't value anymore, so we get beaten up either way.

I have to also add that if we did release new material direct we would need to sell around 700,000 albums to break even.

The point is, I don't buy that one excuse. You have credible excuses for not releasing. But you sound less credible when you tell us some asinine statement like "these Cd's cost to much money and we wouldn't make any money if we released them on CD". Thats complete bullshit. If you've already had studios buying up these tracks, then they've more then likely been paid for and you've made money off of them. So releasing them on CD isn't going to hurt you. I agree with some of your other reasons, just not all of it.

Also, of the dozens and dozens of trailer music I have heard....not a lot of it is all that memorable in the way that The Requiem Two Towers track is. All of this trailer music I have heard from Immediate, and X-Ray, and 651, etc, is just amazing sounding, but generic bombastic stuff. Not that memorable. Just something to set a mood. It can't be that memorable either. The music can't take away from the trailer. So because of that I kind of refuse to believe that all this stuff is going to get "so popular" studios will refuse to use it. The audience for orchestrated music is huge..but come on...lets be honest. It's still fairly niche. Albeit a large niche market. But niche none the less.

licenturion
01-16-2008, 09:12 PM
I have to also add that if we did release new material direct we would need to sell around 700,000 albums to break even.
There are a lot of trailer fans out there but not that much. =)
Considering the fact you earn only around 12$/7€ for each consumer CD it's much more attrative to sell to major companies who pay around 15000 for each track...

How much globus cd's do you need to sell to break even?



Also, of the dozens and dozens of trailer music I have heard....not a lot of it is all that memorable in the way that The Requiem Two Towers track is. All of this trailer music I have heard from Immediate, and X-Ray, and 651, etc, is just amazing sounding, but generic bombastic stuff. Not that memorable. Just something to set a mood. It can't be that memorable either. The music can't take away from the trailer.
That's why they made the globus cd's. It's much more memorable for most people because you have a video, lyrics, a singer (front figure) and the songs last much longer...

I like what you have done on the youtube video with the song ars arcana. It's really good. Will this be on the new globus album as an intro?

I've read on several places that the performance will be on joost.com. When will that be? A lot of people have been asking this here and also on the comments on youtube. So far no one gave an anwser with a date. I'm curious to see all the tracks live...

Victor007
01-17-2008, 12:05 AM
Helpmeeeeeeeee!!

Music song SPOT TV Aliens VS Predator 2, and the last music trailer Speedrace��

Thanks.

x-ray_fan
01-17-2008, 12:23 AM
Hey x-ray_fan,

Any update on those new X-Ray Dog albums 29-33?

Watch this movie http://youtube.com/watch?v=SXo4qmgF-nY , Mechanimal & Dogs of War was used in it.

chrismm42
01-17-2008, 03:54 AM
Chrismm, you are my new hero. LOL


Er.. thanks? :)

And vanton you're my new hero. I think it's great that you've come to this thread, and spent time listening to fans, and told your side of the story. Unfortunately, while there is a lull of Immediate Music material on this forum (thanks to you), there will continue to be illegal sharing elsewhere. See, your music is just too good! :) While it's a compliment, it's also a problem because people are willing to spend their time uploading and downloading it on the web. I think it's important that fans of your music understand why you can't sell it commercially. Thanks to you, I've come to gain an understanding of why, and it makes sense. This pretty much says it all:


I have to also add that if we did release new material direct we would need to sell around 700,000 albums to break even.
Releasing new material is out of the question. I'm guessing that releasing old material to the public is also out of the question, because the amount of CD's that would have to be sold would still be enormous compared to how much an advertiser or production company would pay. It doesn't make economic sense to release any music, new or old, to the public. At least not right now. Maybe this will change in the future (I hope so), but certainly not in the near future.

The question of whether downloading your music is legal or not, is obvious. The problem of illegal downloading still remains. And while your appearance on this forum helps, it doesn't solve it. The reason why so many people are willing to upload your music illegally is because, one, it's so good, and two, there are no apparent consequences. People are going to break the law if they don't believe they will get caught. The only way the illegal downloading of Immediate Music, or of any other trailer music company's music, is going to stop, is if there are consequences. There are three ways to stop it, as far as I can see. Stop the spread at the source (the original companies that buy the rights to the music from Immediate Music), or have consequences for those that upload/download the music second-hand. The third option is to search the web for forums or sites and ask that the site or forum be taken down. All three cost time or money.

I hope that the fans one day convince you and your company, vanton, to release your music commercially. But the fans certainly aren't gaining credibility by downloading your music illegally. Why? Because while some say that if it was available commercially they would spend the money, others won't. Selling the albums commercially will just make the music even more accessible.

SuperKungFu
01-17-2008, 04:06 AM
Does anyone know what trailer music do they play when they show discovery channel - Planet Earth. The one that sounds all holy and everything?

chrismm42
01-17-2008, 04:35 AM
Does anyone know what trailer music do they play when they show discovery channel - Planet Earth. The one that sounds all holy and everything?

Yes. It is called "The Time Has Come" (w/choir) by Epic Score. It was at one time available on iTunes. I'm not sure if it still is. (Epic Score is affiliated with APM Music)

one2hit
01-17-2008, 07:42 AM
looking for ars arcana, I think the links are down.

chrismm42
01-17-2008, 09:57 AM
looking for ars arcana, I think the links are down.

Perhaps the link should remain down. This album can be bought. I believe that people should support the trailer industry where they can.

The album is available from iTunes. I don't know where else, you'd have to look. CD Baby currently is out of stock; not sure when it will be back there.

SuperKungFu
01-17-2008, 10:32 AM
Yes. It is called "The Time Has Come" (w/choir) by Epic Score. It was at one time available on iTunes. I'm not sure if it still is. (Epic Score is affiliated with APM Music)

Cheers mate, thanks. I'm trying to find it but no luck. Can anyone send it to me?

Arumon
01-17-2008, 12:36 PM
looking for ars arcana, I think the links are down.

Yes, it can be bought by the general public.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/arsarcana

support the artist, it's worth it :)

chrismm42
01-17-2008, 02:52 PM
Cheers mate, thanks. I'm trying to find it but no luck. Can anyone send it to me?

I hate to repeat myself, but just to confirm. The song is on iTunes (I believe it was an iTunes only release). It is titled "The Time Has Come (theme to "Planet Earth")". The artist is "Gabriel Shadid & Tobias Marberger". The album is "The Time Has Come (theme to "Planet Earth") - Single". It's just 99 cents.

User8711
01-17-2008, 03:09 PM
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finalblub
01-17-2008, 04:40 PM
Vanton,

I truly appreciate your efforts on this forum. You take the time to answer the peoples' questions and try to give everyone a good insight to the whole situation.
I have never expected someone of the companies to be willing to do this. I’m really impressed.

There are some striking points I want to mention now.

You still seem to think the main interest of the people around here is to have some "rare stuff" that makes them privileged over others.
First of all we should know there will always be persons who will just look around trying to get some material and don't care at all about the whole case. This can happen to every forum as long as they can get things for free.
But as long as you've been in this forum so far I had expected you to see that this is not what most of the people here are interested in. The reason for all the hankering has been mentioned a lot of times now and I can just repeat what many others have already said:
We LOVE this music.
That's why there whould be no reason for us to move on to something else if the music would be available to general public someday or would just become older.
So for now it's not surprising that we've made use of the only existent option.

Another point is the audience. You said the trailer music fans are in the 1000's - and you might even be right about that, but that shouldn't be astonishing to us.
As this music isn't available to the general public how can there be any trailer music fans at all?
You can listen to the music for a few seconds when you see a trailer, but actually that's all.
The great majority of people just don't know anything about the trailer music companies, they have never even heard of them.
Surely a lot of people say "wow, that music sounds nice" when they see a trailer but mostly they don't think of a possibility to get this music as it's not mentioned anywhere. Some people hope it will be on the soundtrack, some don't even know that entire songs are existing and others try harder to find the music to finally find out they won't be able to purchase it.
This drives to the point that it's very hard to build up a larger community of people with interests in trailer music. Those who found a way to achieve the music still stay in a small group for obvious reasons.
This won't change without new options. After all you've taken a new step with Globus and there have already been many positive opinions about it but there is this important difference with the Globus tracks. You've altered the songs.
If you would've just done some changes that would still preserve the nature of the song, it wouldn't be that bad. Atleast that's what you did with some of them, but on the others you've put some lyrics and thereby changed the style and even the genre of these songs.
As you've proved with Epicon there are indeed some people who like this kind of music. But I'm sure this is not what most people are looking for.
If I want music of IM/Globus or other companies then I'd like to have songs similar to the ones used in the trailers. I wouldn't look for IM/Globus when I'm searching for songs with lyrics.
I never want to say you shouldn't try something new; and btw. I have to tell you I really like Epicon for the tracks without these lyrics(especially Preliator).
Nevertheless I don't think you will be very successful with lyrics in the songs, atleast not as much as you could be with the original music.
There are definitly a lot of people who like this music, but most of them don’t know it yet.
Youtube is contributing considerably to an increasing interest in this music, although you probably don’t like if people upload videos with your music in it.
However I’ve almost always seen comments like “very nice music”, “where did you find this music?”, “this music is awesome, how can I get it?” etc. in any of these videos.

Of course you can’t just start selling this music from one day to another while you’re still addicted to the movie companies.
But the times can change. So I hope you continue projects for any public releases.
Maybe someday this music can get what it deserves.

Best wishes,
finalblub

licenturion
01-17-2008, 05:26 PM
If you would've just done some changes that would still preserve the nature of the song, it wouldn't be that bad. Atleast that's what you did with some of them, but on the others you've put some lyrics and thereby changed the style and even the genre of these songs.
searching for songs with lyrics.
I never want to say you shouldn't try something new; and btw. I have to tell you I really like Epicon for the tracks without these lyrics(especially Preliator).


I hope the next album will have lot's of songs like
- arcana from the youtube video
- preliator
- deus ex diem
- sarabande suite
- orchard of mines

Those songs preserved the special feeling that the original had.
The other songs have lost this special feeling. And some of them are just completly ruined (esp. spiritus kayyam)

vanton
01-17-2008, 06:01 PM
Vanton,

I truly appreciate your efforts on this forum. You take the time to answer the peoples' questions and try to give everyone a good insight to the whole situation.
I have never expected someone of the companies to be willing to do this. I�m really impressed.

There are some striking points I want to mention now.

You still seem to think the main interest of the people around here is to have some "rare stuff" that makes them privileged over others.
First of all we should know there will always be persons who will just look around trying to get some material and don't care at all about the whole case. This can happen to every forum as long as they can get things for free.
But as long as you've been in this forum so far I had expected you to see that this is not what most of the people here are interested in. The reason for all the hankering has been mentioned a lot of times now and I can just repeat what many others have already said:
We LOVE this music.
That's why there whould be no reason for us to move on to something else if the music would be available to general public someday or would just become older.
So for now it's not surprising that we've made use of the only existent option.

Another point is the audience. You said the trailer music fans are in the 1000's - and you might even be right about that, but that shouldn't be astonishing to us.
As this music isn't available to the general public how can there be any trailer music fans at all?
You can listen to the music for a few seconds when you see a trailer, but actually that's all.
The great majority of people just don't know anything about the trailer music companies, they have never even heard of them.
Surely a lot of people say "wow, that music sounds nice" when they see a trailer but mostly they don't think of a possibility to get this music as it's not mentioned anywhere. Some people hope it will be on the soundtrack, some don't even know that entire songs are existing and others try harder to find the music to finally find out they won't be able to purchase it.
This drives to the point that it's very hard to build up a larger community of people with interests in trailer music. Those who found a way to achieve the music still stay in a small group for obvious reasons.
This won't change without new options. After all you've taken a new step with Globus and there have already been many positive opinions about it but there is this important difference with the Globus tracks. You've altered the songs.
If you would've just done some changes that would still preserve the nature of the song, it wouldn't be that bad. Atleast that's what you did with some of them, but on the others you've put some lyrics and thereby changed the style and even the genre of these songs.

As you've proved with Epicon there are indeed some people who like this kind of music.

There are definitly a lot of people who like this music, but most of them don�t know it yet.


Of course you can�t just start selling this music from one day to another while you�re still addicted to the movie companies.
But the times can change. So I hope you continue projects for any public releases.
Maybe someday this music can get what it deserves.

Best wishes,
finalblub

Well - Its education first - then get people thinking and hopefully all of you can help the trailer production community to realise that this music is both exciting and different from the run of the mill pop pap that our charts seem to be full of these days. So we need "street teams".

Unfortunately, The market has been bogged down with average (I use the word carefully) music, and the costs don't stop at recording, the average pop people in this industry spend say 40K US on a BIG recording and then spend a million in promoting them, so we have to compete with that side of things as well.

I've mentioned previously the corporate owners of radio who will not take a chance simply because they want to keep their jobs and take next months pay check, thats why its a long hard slog for us to promote.

For 99% of the public we haven't altered anything - they've simply never heard of this before.

When you realise that each country has on average 200 albums released every week, you see what an uphill battle launching ANY album has.

We did get some good news this week, it appears that one of our tracks is being released on a compilation album that is TV advertised in the UK, and they expect that to sell very well, hopefully this will aid our quest to break this (for most) new genre of music.

licenturion
01-17-2008, 06:11 PM
We did get some good news this week, it appears that one of our tracks is being released on a compilation album that is TV advertised in the UK, and they expect that to sell very well, hopefully this will aid our quest to break this (for most) new genre of music.

Well that's gr8 news. It's a start...
Which track is it? And is it a trailer music compilation album?

vanton
01-17-2008, 08:07 PM
Well that's gr8 news. It's a start...
Which track is it? And is it a trailer music compilation album?

Its Mighty Rivers Run and the compilation is in association with Warners and BBC radio 2 which is one of the biggest national radio stations.

xagonyxscenex
01-17-2008, 08:26 PM
Well - Its education first - then get people thinking and hopefully all of you can help the trailer production community to realise that this music is both exciting and different from the run of the mill pop pap that our charts seem to be full of these days. So we need "street teams".

Unfortunately, The market has been bogged down with average (I use the word carefully) music, and the costs don't stop at recording, the average pop people in this industry spend say 40K US on a BIG recording and then spend a million in promoting them, so we have to compete with that side of things as well.

I've mentioned previously the corporate owners of radio who will not take a chance simply because they want to keep their jobs and take next months pay check, thats why its a long hard slog for us to promote.

For 99% of the public we haven't altered anything - they've simply never heard of this before.

When you realise that each country has on average 200 albums released every week, you see what an uphill battle launching ANY album has.

We did get some good news this week, it appears that one of our tracks is being released on a compilation album that is TV advertised in the UK, and they expect that to sell very well, hopefully this will aid our quest to break this (for most) new genre of music.

you do realize that the ONLY way to get this kind of music into the forefront is by bands like Within Temptation, Epica, Nightwish, Kamelot. These kinds of rock bands that use lots of orchestrated music in their songs. Only way.

licenturion
01-17-2008, 08:42 PM
you do realize that the ONLY way to get this kind of music into the forefront is by bands like Within Temptation, Epica, Nightwish, Kamelot. These kinds of rock bands that use lots of orchestrated music in their songs. Only way.

The only band that can compete with immediate music is nightwish.
They recorded their last 2 albums in Abbey Road with the London Orchestra and the Metro Voices choir. The best orchestrations and choir is in the songs: ghost love score, the poet and the pendullum and meadows of heaven

All the other bands use mostly synths and a choir of 5 people with echoes and reverb.


Its Mighty Rivers Run and the compilation is in association with Warners and BBC radio 2 which is one of the biggest national radio stations.
Thanks for the info. And I know BBC really well =)

xagonyxscenex
01-17-2008, 09:39 PM
The only band that can compete with immediate music is nightwish.
They recorded their last 2 albums in Abbey Road with the London Orchestra and the Metro Voices choir. The best orchestrations and choir is in the songs: ghost love score, the poet and the pendullum and meadows of heaven

All the other bands use mostly synths and a choir of 5 people with echoes and reverb.




dumbass -_-'

congrats on completly missing the point

Sammy23
01-18-2008, 12:01 PM
Someone was looking for this http://www.mediafire.com/?chnjlmelrht

From the Romeo Must die and musketeer trailers.

enjoy :)

marksman303
01-18-2008, 12:26 PM
does anyone know the music featured here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y33MPzJFmI8
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 Trailer

and also

the music featured here http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ZnS4uSGCkg
Evolution Promo Video

will be great if someone can help me out here,
cheers

Arumon
01-18-2008, 12:45 PM
I've mentioned previously the corporate owners of radio who will not take a chance simply because they want to keep their jobs and take next months pay check, thats why its a long hard slog for us to promote.


Maybe we should start looking at an option where youtube users (or video sites in general) can licence some of your cues for their own home movies. In a legitimate way. Separate from the IM stuff. Imagine a select library of a few tracks that are on sale for anyone who would like to use it in his or her private videos. (I’m talking new songs here which does not need to be recorded with a big choir or giant orchestra but have the relative same impact on a much tinier screen.) It will help promotion for any company a lot I think… and may be even profitable on a long term scale.

LOL just throwing ideas around, that's all ;)

licenturion
01-18-2008, 01:01 PM
Maybe we should start looking at an option where youtube users (or video sites in general) can licence some of your cues for their own home movies. In a legitimate way. Separate from the IM stuff. Imagine a select library of a few tracks that are on sale for anyone who would like to use it in his or her private videos. (I’m talking new songs here which does not need to be recorded with a big choir or giant orchestra but have the relative same impact on a much tinier screen.) It will help promotion for any company a lot I think… and may be even profitable on a long term scale.

LOL just throwing ideas around, that's all ;)

I don't think that's realistic.
For home made videos people will just use songs that they bought on iTunes or downloaded somewhere else. Lot's of people don't even know they have to license music if they want to use it for a video.

When you organise a party the organizers must also pay music rights to a copyright agency to play music. But a lot of people know that either.

When you look at video's on youtube, a lot of video's don't even have music. And the one who have music are most of the time songs from the radio...

vanton
01-18-2008, 01:08 PM
Maybe we should start looking at an option where youtube users (or video sites in general) can licence some of your cues for their own home movies. In a legitimate way. Separate from the IM stuff. Imagine a select library of a few tracks that are on sale for anyone who would like to use it in his or her private videos. (I�m talking new songs here which does not need to be recorded with a big choir or giant orchestra but have the relative same impact on a much tinier screen.) It will help promotion for any company a lot I think� and may be even profitable on a long term scale.

LOL just throwing ideas around, that's all ;)

We would be happy for people to use GLOBUS for this - BUT we need to be asked first.

jalaldevil
01-18-2008, 03:19 PM
Maybe we should start looking at an option where youtube users (or video sites in general) can licence some of your cues for their own home movies. In a legitimate way. Separate from the IM stuff. Imagine a select library of a few tracks that are on sale for anyone who would like to use it in his or her private videos. (I�m talking new songs here which does not need to be recorded with a big choir or giant orchestra but have the relative same impact on a much tinier screen.) It will help promotion for any company a lot I think� and may be even profitable on a long term scale.

Great idea, i think this could actually work but with the right type of marketing and music. I would be glad to use this if it was available.

PacaveliTheDon
01-18-2008, 06:18 PM
Someone was looking for this http://www.mediafire.com/?chnjlmelrht

From the Romeo Must die and musketeer trailers.

enjoy :)

thanx Sammy...

mikulashaver
01-18-2008, 09:01 PM
Does anyone know what is the name of the last song that is played in the PoP: Warrior Within theatrical trailer? I've been looking for it for a long time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MP1K6Ot12Y

redfoxden
01-19-2008, 03:49 AM
Does anyone know which X-ray Dog album has the track "Here Comes the King" in it.

Edit: I'm also looking for the track "Requiem for a Tower". If anyone could help me out that'd be great :)

User8711
01-19-2008, 11:14 AM
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qetuol
01-19-2008, 03:11 PM
Does anyone know what is the name of the last song that is played in the PoP: Warrior Within theatrical trailer? I've been looking for it for a long time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MP1K6Ot12Y

at the end its Battle charge from xrayd.

Tfw2008
01-19-2008, 06:21 PM
Hi folks....
I�ve been searching for the transformers trailer music... I know the titles of the songs but I can�t find their ddls.... please help
Thanks a lot

marksman303
01-19-2008, 07:19 PM
its in Canis Rexi Volume 2


Does anyone know which X-ray Dog album has the track "Here Comes the King" in it.

Edit: I'm also looking for the track "Requiem for a Tower". If anyone could help me out that'd be great :)

redfoxden
01-19-2008, 11:33 PM
01 X-Ray Dog - 01 - Here Comes The King - Canis Rex II
02 X-Ray Dog - 02 - Here Comes The King - No Choir - Canis Rex II
03 X-Ray Dog - 03 - Here Comes The King - Drums & Fx - Canis Rex II
35 X-Ray Dog - 35 - Here Comes The King - Drums Dog Eat Dog II
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14 14 - Here Comes The King DOG IN HEAVEN II (THE BEST OF)





"Requiem for a Tower" tracks is from 'Requiem from A Tower' album by Corner Stone Cues


its in Canis Rexi Volume 2

Thanks you both! :)

Could someone upload Canis Rex II and Dog Eat Dog II?

Dustin
01-20-2008, 12:49 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21007.html

Anyone know what the song in this Trailer is named? It sounds o damn epic, I want it.

slovaksoul
01-20-2008, 09:16 AM
Can you re-upload the future world music albums please? Thank you. You rock!

qetuol
01-20-2008, 10:52 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21007.html

Anyone know what the song in this Trailer is named? It sounds o damn epic, I want it.

it is a track Race for survival from album Epic action by Kpm music.

wrajitorul
01-20-2008, 11:59 AM
^tnx.

Dunames
01-20-2008, 05:37 PM
I've been searching for the trailer music from four trailers. Does anyone know where to get them?
Narnia: Prince Caspian trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbhcKrvb8us
10.000 BC trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw7ow4AmPc8
Jumper trailer 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDljaHaC0zM
And Jumper trailer 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8u4MDq7Ow

Sammy23
01-20-2008, 07:06 PM
Jumper 2 trailer is Moving mountains by Two Steps from Hell: Nemesis. - Which can't be posted on this site. :(

mikeyai
01-20-2008, 08:33 PM
Our equipment has been replaced so all of you who have access to the private server can now access it to get your music!

MLN
Mikeyai

mikulashaver
01-20-2008, 09:37 PM
at the end its Battle charge from xrayd.

Thanks. Do you also know the music in PoP3: The Two Thrones trailer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHmM4c6gILk

Dustin
01-20-2008, 09:59 PM
it is a track Race for survival from album Epic action by Kpm music.

Alright. Can someone upload the Kpm Music Collection, then? Please?

elgordofus
01-20-2008, 10:35 PM
Its Mighty Rivers Run and the compilation is in association with Warners and BBC radio 2 which is one of the biggest national radio stations.
Does anybody have any more info on this trailer music compilation album? Like an article talking about it, a track list or anything at all?

woland
01-21-2008, 12:30 AM
Hmm I been having a lot of trouble trying to find X-Ray Dog new albums, has anyone had better luck? Please PM me we could trade :)

mich128
01-21-2008, 04:53 AM
can anyone upload the fatal fantasy track by music junkies, I'm having a hard time finding it. I could share or trade some other tracks in exchange.

Asleep at the Trigger
01-21-2008, 10:14 AM
Anyone else having problems with the links? Every time I click on one of them they just take me to some German website with no link to DL the stuff.

Sin Ansem
01-22-2008, 06:43 AM
I finally found out where this music in this trailer came from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-K9_0hD5Co

Epic Score: Action and Adventure 2. Anyone still have it?

vanton
01-22-2008, 09:21 AM
Does anybody have any more info on this trailer music compilation album? Like an article talking about it, a track list or anything at all?

Its not a trailer music compilation, its a straight down the line compilation for the general public.

This is where we want to go - break out of this niche tiny fanbase and let the world know about our material

Nigracordis
01-22-2008, 10:32 AM
Hi, please answere! Has anyone the album "dogs of war" from x-ray dog?

Menzo
01-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Someone out to summarize the past 67 pages onto the first page to save on unnecessary reading.

It's the digital age. Music of all things is one of the easiest to distribute world wide. I understand Vanton wanting to restrict the outflow of this particular genre for income reasons, IP and such, but it'll all be for naught eventually. Besides, like already mentioned, the majority of this music leaked out pretty much is used for personal listening by a select few of the overall internet music percentage.

People inevitably will gain access and spread these albums in small private groups, then onto all sorts of distribution systems (etc Bittorrent). As we all know, no groups have had any significant success with torrent sharing. I credit you guys with taking steps to more commercial releases. But you must understand, there are people out there that enjoy collecting music by any means. Then there are audiophiles. Combine both and...

Rozal
01-22-2008, 09:30 PM
Having a hard time finding Themes For Orchestra & Choir #2.
I already have #1 but cannot find #2

x-ray_fan
01-22-2008, 11:39 PM
Hi, please answere! Has anyone the album "dogs of war" from x-ray dog?

Yes, i know one who have this.

Macksis
01-23-2008, 03:15 AM
Having a hard time finding Themes For Orchestra & Choir #2.
I already have #1 but cannot find #2

Well you will not find it here for a reason that is listed on one of the many pages in this thread. I suggest you read up.

Achronos
01-23-2008, 12:51 PM
Having a hard time finding Themes For Orchestra & Choir #2.
I already have #1 but cannot find #2

Yes, as Macksis said (page before), do your reading. But since im guess that you cbf looking back 69 pages, i shall say that TFOAC II is also called Abbey Road. That will help.

DaRos84
01-24-2008, 02:44 AM
Hi Jack,

As jalaldevil said, that particular song can be found on the first page (and first post) of this thread under Audio Machine, and it's on the Platinum Series I album (disc 3, tracks 1, 2 & 3).

But just incase, I've uploaded them here...

House of Cards (http://download.yousendit.com/37A01B80160DCCB8)
House of Cards (No choir) (http://download.yousendit.com/70B4040962BCEC18)
House of Cards (No drums) (http://download.yousendit.com/DB56A0B75F598323)

Please note that because of "yousendit", these links will only be up for 7 days.


can you do a reup???? I need this song

Director91
01-24-2008, 04:39 AM
Does anyone have Gothix (choir) or non chior?

qetuol
01-24-2008, 09:14 AM
Yes, i know one who have this.

Could u tell me who is that person?

roje
01-24-2008, 04:12 PM
Does anybody have the Directors Cuts volumes for me please. If not all, the Epic Choral in particular please?

Thanks =)

User8711
01-24-2008, 05:21 PM
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DeePoo
01-24-2008, 05:29 PM
cool to see that!

Nono2007
01-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Also ES Poshumus single name "Unstoppable" which is not is the 2 CD set.

licenturion
01-24-2008, 09:54 PM
is carthographer a commercial release that can be bought??

edit: found it on iTunes store. Listened to the samples and I don't like it.
There is no choir. And no songs have percussion. All songs sound romantic. :-(

Why do all romantic 'poppy' songs always end up on commercial trailer music albums while most trailer music fans like the epic mega bombastic stuff...

The style I like the most are tracks like: Blasphemy 2.0, Arcana, Infernalis, Ultimatum, Lacrimosa, all tracks on TSFH Nemesis, all tracks on Pfeifer Broz Vienna, ...

elendil
01-24-2008, 10:08 PM
is carthographer a commercial release that can be bought??

Of course, like the first album!

Macksis
01-24-2008, 10:20 PM
Of course, like the first album!

Will it be as hard to find/sold out like the first album?

elendil
01-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Will it be as hard to find/sold out like the first album?

To buy... here (http://cdbaby.com/cd/esposthumus3) or on ITunes

To find... here (Thread 42862) very soon...

Drenerk
01-25-2008, 09:22 AM
hi im new to the forums but i love the music thanks :D but most of the links our dead so can someone reupload or somthing ? thanks alot

Arumon
01-25-2008, 11:11 AM
hi im new to the forums but i love the music thanks :D but most of the links our dead so can someone reupload or somthing ? thanks alot

Hi Drenerk, the links to this type of music will probably stay down. There has been a big debate going on in the past 20 or so pages, stating it's not in the best interest of everybody to post these links freely. Please take the time to read through the previous posts and it will become clear.

ES Posthumus new album 'Cartographer' is released but be aware that the style is different from the previous album. The 'cinematic' feeling of the first album is gone, though it still sounds impressive on an subdued scale.
You can hear almost all track samples here:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/esposthumus3

Drenerk
01-25-2008, 05:12 PM
ok thanks but where can i get the music then?

elendil
01-25-2008, 08:50 PM
ok thanks but where can i get the music then?

3 posts before, it's the only possibilities.

User8711
01-25-2008, 08:57 PM
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LoL_Metal
01-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Hi guys , this is my first time on the forum and I was wondering if someone can help me .
I'm looking for the song played in "the eye of judgment" intro ... not the one by Stone Sour in the trailer but the one in this intro

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25689.html

I don't know why but is sounds strangely familiar to me ..... I could use the help....

licenturion
01-25-2008, 10:09 PM
ok thanks but where can i get the music then?

Not on this board anymore that's for sure...
After all the debates here and lawsuit threats everything has gone underground now...

I'm curious to peoples music taste actually :)
So people, which are you're alltime favorite 3 trailer music albums
For me:
1. Pfeifer Broz - Vienna
2. Two Steps From Hell - Nemesis
3. Immediate Music - TFOAC 1

And by the way I found a much better version of 'Reqieum for a tower' , not the one from corner stone cues. It a orchestral epic song with choirs. It's 7 minutes long and contains the 3 parts plus a lot more than the 3 short pieces on the corner stone cues album

banoime
01-26-2008, 01:03 AM
On the topic of piece's identity, I also have one. If you're a regular Universal Studio watcher, you'll notice that on some DVDs, at the beginning of the movie, there's a footage that shows some of the good titles of Universal Studio. The music of that footage is very outstanding, well composed and sounds really good. I ripped that piece to mp3 file and attach along with this post. (http://www.sendspace.com/file/v93kjb) If anybody can tell the name of this piece and the artist who produced it, it would be awesome.

PS: On top of my head, I can remember two DVD titles that contain this footage. They're Meet the Parents and Rear Window. If you're curious how it is put together, check them out.

k4m1
01-26-2008, 01:05 AM
hej my little 3 :)

1. THE Nemesis by TSFH
2. Arvo P�rt - Alina - Spiegel Im Spiegel (not much variation but really relaxing and special :))
3. AudioMachine - Platinum series 1


Immediate Music TFOAC 1 and Vienna would make the 4-5

chrismm42
01-26-2008, 04:48 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6E_h2W-C9zE - is the music on the end from Brand-X - 'Eternity' right?

Well, it's certainly Brand X, and it has the same tune of the piece 'Eternity'. However, the piece in the trailer seems to be some sort of remix or version of 'Eternity'.

qetuol
01-26-2008, 11:58 AM
hey guys!

check out my very first trailer, and leave useful comment pls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWxtTHZ2bY

jalaldevil
01-26-2008, 12:13 PM
My little 3 is:
Audio machine - platinium series I
Immediate Music-Abbey Road
Pfeifer Broz. Music- Vienna C.F.H

finalblub
01-26-2008, 02:47 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6E_h2W-C9zE - is the music on the end from Brand-X - 'Eternity' right?

It sounds more like Journey To The Front.

Mabdrax
01-26-2008, 07:18 PM
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slovaksoul
01-26-2008, 09:30 PM
Hey Mabdrax, Sorry I don't have any of those albums. But I've have been trying to get the future world music albums. Think you can hook me up? It would be much appreciated and If I come across any of those albums, I'll be sure to send them your way.

SkyDiver
01-26-2008, 09:44 PM
Learn how to use Souseek and you can get all of this stuff.

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 12:17 AM
Hi there i need help to find a song, please help me. I found it on clipfish.de, please watch it & when someone know what music it is, please tell me. I`m searching a long time for this.... it starts at 3:04 min. http://www.clipfish.de/player.php?videoid=MTA0MzE2M3wxODM4ODQ0&cat=24

slovaksoul
01-27-2008, 01:08 AM
Clipfish is not available in the U.S. What was it used in?

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 01:16 AM
Clipfish is not available in the U.S. What was it used in?

Why not ??? What happened when you press the link ???

slovaksoul
01-27-2008, 01:24 AM
It takes me to Clipfish in which a nice note pops up letting me know "Clipfish is not available in your country. Look us up next time you are in Germany" not an exact quote but the message is the same

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 01:28 AM
Okay, hmm a friend of me upload it now on youtube, what a minute...

slovaksoul
01-27-2008, 01:30 AM
No prob. The music sounds so familiar, and I am almost certain I have it somewhere, I just can't place it at the moment. Sounds like either Trevor Rabin or Hans Zimmer...

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 01:36 AM
Okay here it is. http://youtube.com/watch?v=-S0Ik7TpVtY

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 01:36 AM
its hans zimmer "the rock" ost

slovaksoul
01-27-2008, 01:40 AM
its hans zimmer "the rock" ost

Of course! The one Hans Zimmer album I lost.

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 01:41 AM
its the best one :)

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 01:43 AM
But it can`t be The Rock, i have the Original Score, the Extanded Score & The Complete Score of it, and this is not included on it.

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 01:44 AM
ill check it again

slovaksoul
01-27-2008, 01:47 AM
its the best one :)

I know, I used to have it, til I either lost it or it got stolen. For some reason I never got around to getting it again.

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 01:48 AM
ok its hans zimmer "backdraft" ost

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 01:51 AM
ok its hans zimmer "backdraft" ost

Are you sure ??? Which track do you mean ???

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 01:53 AM
ok its too late here and i suck lol :D

i just listened to it and its not backdraft :D

lol ill keep searching ^^

edit: it is backdraft...im only dumb.. :)

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 01:56 AM
i think i got it.."crimson tide" hans zimmer

edit: nope...its backdraft! :)

x-ray_fan
01-27-2008, 01:57 AM
I have it, it`s "Burn it all" from Backdraft, thanks for helping, you`re the Best...

kukoriato
01-27-2008, 02:00 AM
like i said lol backdraft lol...forget crimson tide :D

radeon500
01-27-2008, 03:56 AM
does anyone know the name of the artist of the silent night music played in the AVP2 trailer?

Mabdrax
01-27-2008, 02:17 PM
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Domingo
01-27-2008, 03:45 PM
Hi,

I'am looking for

* Two steps from hell
all except nemesis

* Audio Machine :

Big, Big And Bigger
Tools of the Trade

* Epic Score
all
* Music Junkies
all

If you can upload/have link/... contact me plz -> n3cron @ hotmail.fr

I can offer :

X-ray dog : 1-28
Immediate Music : All
Brand-X Music : 1-9
Futur World Music : 1-7
E.S Posthumus : 1&2(cartographer)
Two Steps From Hell : Nemesis
Audio Machine : Platinium/Trailer/Atomic
Directors cut: All expected 13/last
X-series

Just so you know, Mabdrax, we are not allowed to deal in/trade/post links to Immediate Music or Two Steps From Hell.

Arumon
01-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Hi, Does anyone know what happened to the Two Steps from Hell website ???
It seems to have been terninated...

http://www.twostepsfromhell.com/

I guess it means we can't even share the nemesis montage now that was up on their site... :(

XRayWolf
01-27-2008, 07:14 PM
Hi, Does anyone know what happened to the Two Steps from Hell website ???
It seems to have been terninated...

http://www.twostepsfromhell.com/

I guess it means we can't even share the nemesis montage now that was up on their site... :(

It seems they just forgot to renew the domain.

lJackl
01-27-2008, 07:49 PM
1. Pfeifer Broz - Vienna
where can i find?

licenturion
01-27-2008, 08:19 PM
It seems they just forgot to renew the domain.

Hehe, let's buy it now that it's available :)

slovaksoul
01-27-2008, 08:30 PM
Hehe, let's buy it now that it's available :)

Then we can sell it back to them for their music!

pyroblackbelt
01-27-2008, 08:32 PM
Then we can sell it back to them for their music!

I'm in!