Vanton,

However peole who use your music just for their own listening pleasure don't really harm you that much.

I also want to say that I find it cool that someone from the trailer music companies comes forward with an opinion.
In the past all links got deleted without anyone saying something.

I am trying to show we are not some huge corporation and to try and explain why we object to things.

OK Now we are getting to my point - ITS ONLY LITTLE ME!!! I DON'T MATTER!!!

How many forums such as this are there on the net?

How many "little me's" are there on each forum??

So how am I gonna put a lovely turkey on my Christmas tabl;e when all you "little me's" nick my music without thinking about paying for it.

Maybe I should get all you "only me's" to go to the foodstore and steal a turkey for me and it will be OK??? Hmm Free??? Turkey??? That will cost you a year in jail sir!

For those who like epic music (with choirs) should check out and buy the following movie soundtracks:
- Stardust (Ilian Eskeri); great great underrated movie too
- Pirates Of The Carribean 3 (Hans Zimmer)
- The Last Legion (Patrick Doyle)
- Tomb Raider Anniversary (Troels Follman); disk in collectors edition. Lot's of choirs
- Beowulf (Alan Silvestri)
- Van Helsing (Alan Silvestri)
- King Arthur (Hans Zimmer)
- Xmen: The Last Stand (John Powell)

I have bought them al over the last years. If someone have suggestions I don't know about, please say so =)

Funny how the majority of the ones you name use our music for the trailers and thats before the music for the movie is actually finished......

Funny how the majority of the ones you name use our music for the trailers and thats before the music for the movie is actually finished......

That's because epic hero movies of epic fantasy movies are the one I go see in the theater. It's my favorite genre. I hate SF. And when I watch I pay close attention to the soundtrack =)

Immediate Music makes mostly epic music. Trust me, the fact that I went to these movies or bought these soundtracks doesn't have anything to do with the trailers. I didn't even see the trailer of Pirates, Beowulf or Stardust before I saw the movies

Look here for more info of the box set
[url] Also the track 'Ultimatum' from immediate music is exactly the same as LOTR 'Weathertop'. I wonder if they pay for that...


Its the other way around my friend

Its the other way around my friend
So Howard Shore paid you guys for the use of that theme?

Are u guys affiliated with 'future world music' because the design of you website shows some similarities

ps: whats the globus track you are playing on the end of the youtube video? I think I know it and it's quite good!
=)

Got me - its not on the album but we did do it on the show, Its Arcana (immediate material) but we showed the Ghost Rider trailer first to show them what we do and then played it live - absolutely amazing especially with Mark Richardson on drums (feeder and Skunk Anansie)

Got me - its not on the album but we did do it on the show, Its Arcana (immediate material) but we showed the Ghost Rider trailer first to show them what we do and then played it live - absolutely amazing especially with Mark Richardson on drums (feeder and Skunk Anansie)

It's great

if you release a new globus in the future full of tracks like that and preliator, I'll buy it for sure. Use the heavy epic tracks, not the slow romantic ones =)

May I ask what's you function is in IM. Are you the composer, part of the choir, playing an instrument, mixer...?

May I ask what's you function is in IM. Are you the composer, part of the choir, playing an instrument, mixer...?

I run the European operation

why don't you guys take a room? no just kidding,

but add each other on msn or something.. it's like a chatscene here

that's all

why don't you guys take a room? no just kidding,

but add each other on msn or something.. it's like a chatscene here

that's all

I don't read who sends stuff I just answer questions

I did answer yours didn't I?

Plus I notice you are one of the offenders - giving out servers where people can steal our music - Thats a yellow card friend

no he complains we blabla too much here

Is Vanton for real???

Can you find Stephen Graziano's trailer music to the movie "The Lawnmower Man", James Doddly, all Spider-man 3 trailer music, and Speed.

Rule #236 of the Internets: If you make music that sounds good, a certain poulation of said Internets will always find a way to acquire it, if there is no legal way, then they will choose an illegal way.

Rule #593 of the Internets: That harder it is to acquire music that affects the brain of the individual with the release of pleasure chemicals, the more determined the individual will be to find the music.

Rule #12 of the Internets: There is no 'steal'

Thank you. :)

Maybe you know

http://www.veigar.com/

(go to audio menu)

I don't read who sends stuff I just answer questions

I did answer yours didn't I?

Plus I notice you are one of the offenders - giving out servers where people can steal our music - Thats a yellow card friend

I have no need of asking you questions and I haven't... so I don't know how you can answer my questions which I don't have.

I am trying to show we are not some huge corporation and to try and explain why we object to things.

OK Now we are getting to my point - ITS ONLY LITTLE ME!!! I DON'T MATTER!!!

How many forums such as this are there on the net?

How many "little me's" are there on each forum??

So how am I gonna put a lovely turkey on my Christmas tabl;e when all you "little me's" nick my music without thinking about paying for it.

Maybe I should get all you "only me's" to go to the foodstore and steal a turkey for me and it will be OK??? Hmm Free??? Turkey??? That will cost you a year in jail sir!

Okay, now I want to add my 2 cents... I can understand that you are angry with all these 'pirates', as your company is not interested in the public who would like to get your music, only in selling it to companies. But I don't see your problem with people downloading your music for private use. You talk about "all the little me's", but how are they doing you harm? The film companies will not lose interest in your music if some private listeners (and even if it is 1000s of them) have your stuff on their harddrives, because nobody will know. Who is doing harm are ppl who release films with your music without paying, full ack they should be sued!

But private listeners don't do any harm. And you cannot stop them either! No legal action, copy protection or whatever has ever stopped pirates - and never will. Ppl who want your music will always get it, either buy it or get it illegally if they have to. So what can you do? Sue them?
What will this accomplish? These ppl can never pay you what you want and all you can do is ruin the lives of some of your fans. Is this what you want? Is this 'justice'? I have another idea: Add a paypal link to the IM homepage where fans can donate to support you and in return leave them be, let them download and enjoy your music. This way, you will get money from them (I would not only pay for your turkey, I would donate 100 bucks immediately).

As it is now, ppl are still downloading and you get nothing - we both agree that this is not fair. So giving dedicated fans a way to support you would be great - for you and for music lovers who want to pay for your music but can't. This way, you don't have to release CDs and movie companies cannot say "We are no longer interested in your stuff because you can get it at any CD store". I think this gentlemen agreement could actually work, because the ppl interested in your stuff would be eager to pay, but they are not the major public (in fact, most of my friends cannot understand why I like trailer music) so movie companies will not think your music isn't original any longer.

So let's ask the ppl here: Who would donate money to IM if in return they woudn't care about 'illegal' downloads for private listening?

I would donate a kidney to have serenata (l)

Another suggestion is the german group "E Nomine". They make dance + religious + epic choir music. Here's a sample:
http://robert.blake.youaremighty.com/
Note that you can change the name on the beginning of the url above to yours :P

woohooo , i have finally ewql Orchestra and Choir
when i have my keyboard controller, i will compose and only for companies :@ joke

haha yeah Schwarze Sonne of those guys is really cool :D

Okay, now I want to add my 2 cents... I can understand that you are angry with all these 'pirates', as your company is not interested in the public who would like to get your music, only in selling it to companies. But I don't see your problem with people downloading your music for private use. You talk about "all the little me's", but how are they doing you harm? The film companies will not lose interest in your music if some private listeners (and even if it is 1000s of them) have your stuff on their harddrives, because nobody will know. Who is doing harm are ppl who release films with your music without paying, full ack they should be sued!

But private listeners don't do any harm. And you cannot stop them either! No legal action, copy protection or whatever has ever stopped pirates - and never will. Ppl who want your music will always get it, either buy it or get it illegally if they have to. So what can you do? Sue them?
What will this accomplish? These ppl can never pay you what you want and all you can do is ruin the lives of some of your fans. Is this what you want? Is this 'justice'? I have another idea: Add a paypal link to the IM homepage where fans can donate to support you and in return leave them be, let them download and enjoy your music. This way, you will get money from them (I would not only pay for your turkey, I would donate 100 bucks immediately).

As it is now, ppl are still downloading and you get nothing - we both agree that this is not fair. So giving dedicated fans a way to support you would be great - for you and for music lovers who want to pay for your music but can't. This way, you don't have to release CDs and movie companies cannot say "We are no longer interested in your stuff because you can get it at any CD store". I think this gentlemen agreement could actually work, because the ppl interested in your stuff would be eager to pay, but they are not the major public (in fact, most of my friends cannot understand why I like trailer music) so movie companies will not think your music isn't original any longer.

So let's ask the ppl here: Who would donate money to IM if in return they woudn't care about 'illegal' downloads for private listening?

Seriously. I would spend my whole month earning and run to the store to buy them right away if they ever distributed those music out to public.

The trailer music fans are in their 1,000's - we have to expand this to the masses, if we do, one day you may get your wish - got a million for the next album?


Here is the flaw in this argument. I agree pirated music is harming the music industry, but it is affecting different sectors differently. It affects people like Madonna, etc because their fans are in the millions+. So naturally if a lot of those people are not actually paying for her music, it will affect how much they sell and how much she makes. I think the whole pirated music phase that is going on in the world is a lot of talk. Has anyone heard yet of any music artists or companies shutting down because of pirated music? No. Because they still do well even though pirated music exists. They just don't make AS MUCH money. But these people make tons already. What is the difference if Madonna makes $50million a year or $20million? She's still doing well. And now that you can buy legal music digitally online, it is getting better.

But as you said, the music fans for trailer music are very low. In the 1,000's, you said. I seriously doubt this affects people like you or the studios. When the number of trailer music fans increase into the millions, then you guys will have big problem. But I doubt it will happen, because the music style isn't for everyone and the only way to find it is on the internet.

And while it does cost a lot of money to produce this music, we all know that what these studios pay for to use this music is also pretty expensive. You guys make your money back, plus more. Or else more albums wouldn't be getting made. Anyone heard yet of one of these guys going out of business? Nope.

And here he is again... :rolleyes:
What's the point in coming to this forum everytime saying "I have this, and you don't. I have that, and you don't."

I don't see the point. What are you trying to do? Do you want that people start begging for it so you feel 'popular' or do you just want to show how great and selfish you really are.

Be constructive or stay away.

Neh >:O

The funny thing is, he (ryu81) is one of the biggest pirates in these forums and others, but he puts on an image that he isn't and better than others. And he doesn't have Nemesis or Pathogen.

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I AM NOT SHOUTING THIS REPLY - ITS EASIER TO ANSWER SPECIFICS WITHIN YOUR MESSAGE I can understand that you are angry with all these 'pirates', as your company is not interested in the public who would like to get your music, only in selling it to companies.

I'M NOT ANGRY AND I DON'T CONSIDER PEOPLE HERE PIRATES AS SUCH- I HAD RECEIVED MANY EMAILS ABOUT THIS FORUM AND I FELT I NEEDED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT

But I don't see your problem with people downloading your music for private use.

I SEE YOUR POINT BUT OUR ISSUE IS USING OUR MUSIC WITH VIDEOS AND STICKING THEM ON THE WEB - THATS OUR BUSINESS AND PEOPLE WHO USE OUR MUSIC GET ASSY ABOUT THAT

You talk about "all the little me's", but how are they doing you harm?

MY POINT WAS THAT WE ALL CONSIDER OURSELVES "ONLY ME" BUT MULTIPLY "ME" TO EVERYONE ELSE MAKES IT A BIG PROBLEM

The film companies will not lose interest in your music if some private listeners (and even if it is 1000s of them) have your stuff on their harddrives, because nobody will know. Who is doing harm are ppl who release films with your music without paying, full ack they should be sued!

THE TROUBLE IS THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WEAR A SIGN SAYING THATS WHAT THEY ARE

What will this accomplish?
MAYBE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROBLEM AND MAYBE EVEN ONE PERSON STOPS USING OUR MUSIC FOR THEIR NEXT FILM -THATS COOL IF WE ACHIEVE THAT

These ppl can never pay you what you want and all you can do is ruin the lives of some of your fans.
A BIT RICH BUT I GET YOUR POINT AND HOPEFULLY YOU GET MINE.

As it is now, ppl are still downloading and you get nothing - we both agree that this is not fair. So giving dedicated fans a way to support you would be great - for you and for music lovers who want to pay for your music but can't.
THATS WHY WE RECORDED GLOBUS - ITS A START BUT NOT PERFECT FOR YOU GUYS I KNOW

most of my friends cannot understand why I like trailer music

HOW FRUSTRATING IS IT FOR YOU FOR THEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND, MULTIPLY THAT MANY FOLD IN OUR CASE - WE TESTED THE THEORY OF PURE TRAILER MUSIC AND FOUND THE SAME THING. THATS WHY WE INTRODUCED LYRICS INTO GLOBUS - TO MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE AS A HALF WAY HOUSE FOR THE MASSES - NEXT TIME WE WILL STRETCH INTO MORE AREAS -

Here is the flaw in this argument. I agree pirated music is harming the music industry, but it is affecting different sectors differently. It affects people like Madonna, etc because their fans are in the millions+. So naturally if a lot of those people are not actually paying for her music, it will affect how much they sell and how much she makes. I think the whole pirated music phase that is going on in the world is a lot of talk. Has anyone heard yet of any music artists or companies shutting down because of pirated music? No. Because they still do well even though pirated music exists. They just don't make AS MUCH money. But these people make tons already. What is the difference if Madonna makes $50million a year or $20million? She's still doing well. And now that you can buy legal music digitally online, it is getting better.

But as you said, the music fans for trailer music are very low. In the 1,000's, you said. I seriously doubt this affects people like you or the studios. When the number of trailer music fans increase into the millions, then you guys will have big problem. But I doubt it will happen, because the music style isn't for everyone and the only way to find it is on the internet.

And while it does cost a lot of money to produce this music, we all know that what these studios pay for to use this music is also pretty expensive. You guys make your money back, plus more. Or else more albums wouldn't be getting made. Anyone heard yet of one of these guys going out of business? Nope.

I agree with you - but what about those who sell a few ,000. Maybe like us (Globus) they invested their own money to get their music out into the market. This makes a big dent in making their money back or not.

The fact is that its the reverse of your argument - the more popular the less impact it has.

If we were signed to a record company - there is no way we would be signed to make another album, if those who downloaded without paying actually paid, the label would say yes to another album.

Madonna doesn't care one way or the other now as she has signed to a promoter of live shows LIVE NATION - who think of record sales as a loss leader and make zillions on live shows - Our problem with Immediate Music is that our music is not intended to sit in someone's record collection and many who download use it for films - that does hurt our business.

Many small companies are actually going broke because of illegal downloads -thats a fact, unfortunately people only see rock stars making zillions and think everyone is like that.

This is all good chat and thankyou all for joining in the discussion - I hope this has helped you understand our problems

WE TESTED THE THEORY OF PURE TRAILER MUSIC AND FOUND THE SAME THING. THATS WHY WE INTRODUCED LYRICS INTO GLOBUS - TO MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE AS A HALF WAY HOUSE FOR THE MASSES - NEXT TIME WE WILL STRETCH INTO MORE AREAS

I'm sorry but it's more disturbing in this way... :confused:

do you think really that, as a fan of your music, when I buy at your "CD" Epicon I was wondered ??

of course not !!! I was said to me: "my god, I have pay more than 20$ for pop songs ??" :-\

No, really I don't know why you don't have published real trailers album ? :-$

know that for sure I was ready to pay more than 100$ each for some of yours great excellent compositions !! :rolleyes:

but not for "pop songs", yeah, absolutly, for me it's pop songs !! I love orchestral film music, synth samples but not singers !!! :-(

for sure I love Immediate Music but I hate Epicon, and for more I don't understand, really, why this album exist !? :-X

I just want to be really honnest with you, because I love your music for real, and I think tell to you something like: "oh, Epicon is great !" can't help you for published real music from you !! ;-)

Hope really to find a real Immediate Music to buy, in the wait I'll send to you all my wishes for christmas and the new year ! :-P

friendly greetings, with love, Keira. :-*

I'm sorry but it's more disturbing in this way... :confused:

do you think really that, as a fan of your music, when I buy at your "CD" Epicon I was wondered ??

of course not !!! I was said to me: "my god, I have pay more than 20$ for pop songs ??" :-\

No, really I don't know why you don't have published real trailers album ? :-$

know that for sure I was ready to pay more than 100$ each for some of yours great excellent compositions !! :rolleyes:

but not for "pop songs", yeah, absolutly, for me it's pop songs !! I love orchestral film music, synth samples but not singers !!! :-(

for sure I love Immediate Music but I hate Epicon, and for more I don't understand, really, why this album exist !? :-X

I just want to be really honnest with you, because I love your music for real, and I think tell to you something like: "oh, Epicon is great !" can't help you for published real music from you !! ;-)

Hope really to find a real Immediate Music to buy, in the wait I'll send to you all my wishes for christmas and the new year ! :-P

friendly greetings, with love, Keira. :-*

I'm glad you are honest about this.

You shouldn't have to pay $20 though - If you are in the US its $12 from CDBABY - itunes sells at normal rates, we are trying to sort out Amazon who unbelievably have a $40 price on it - nothing to do with us I can assure you.

Purists may not like the album, we didn't do this purely for trailer fans - we are trying to introduce the everyday music fan to our music. I'll give you a little story - we wanted to do another live show and wanted radio support for it - their concept was that it would be great if we didn't actually use the live orchestra - they wanted us to have a few keyboards miming the orchestra parts! The whole point for us was to have the orchestra and choir - to be different, make it an event - they just didn't get it - If so called MEDIA types didn't understand and therefore wouldn't play our music (watered down versions at that for the trailer fan) how on earth can we go the whole hog and perform in the way you guys want it? The cost of doing a live show has now come down (as all the setups are done) but it still costs around $60,000 a show - we are up against both sides of the argument but we believe this kind of music has a place and can be popular - its a long road to give you guys what you really want and we hope to give it one day - we have to build demand to ensure we don't lose our shirts too much!

So let's ask the ppl here: Who would donate money to IM if in return they woudn't care about 'illegal' downloads for private listening?

If we can get new cd's fast and in good quality my answer is: absolutley YES!
I would be happy to donate 50 dollar for every good new album I get.
And I'll never use it for any home movies or youtube stuff. In fact, I never made a movie. Not even when I went on holidays. I'm just not interested in movie-making...

Get yourself a good lawyer with our money and sue all the people who use your music for their own movies so they need to pay a lot money.

Besides there are only a few trailer music albums I like/would like: IM - Themes for choir & orchestra 1 + 2, Two steps from hell - Dynasty and Two Steps From Hell - Nemesis. I would like to pay 50 dollar or more for each album =)

I'm glad you are honest about this.

You shouldn't have to pay $20 though - If you are in the US its $12 from CDBABY - itunes sells at normal rates, we are trying to sort out Amazon who unbelievably have a $40 price on it - nothing to do with us I can assure you.

Purists may not like the album, we didn't do this purely for trailer fans - we are trying to introduce the everyday music fan to our music. I'll give you a little story - we wanted to do another live show and wanted radio support for it - their concept was that it would be great if we didn't actually use the live orchestra - they wanted us to have a few keyboards miming the orchestra parts! The whole point for us was to have the orchestra and choir - to be different, make it an event - they just didn't get it - If so called MEDIA types didn't understand and therefore wouldn't play our music (watered down versions at that for the trailer fan) how on earth can we go the whole hog and perform in the way you guys want it? The cost of doing a live show has now come down (as all the setups are done) but it still costs around $60,000 a show - we are up against both sides of the argument but we believe this kind of music has a place and can be popular - its a long road to give you guys what you really want and we hope to give it one day - we have to build demand to ensure we don't lose our shirts too much!


yes I have see that about prices, but sadly in european stores the prices is more expensive...:-X
and, like you have said, I think the probleme is that, you have try to introduced others peoples than film music fans ! ...for me it's the mistake, I think more CD's was saled with a typical Immediate Music cues selection !! ;-)
Others way are possible for the recording, you know that, like any Media Ventures (Remote Control) composers you was can made the compositions on computers with for example Gigastudio !?
like Jablonsky, Morris, Lohner, Dooley... etc... You don't think that was an alternate way ?? =)

I hope I don't have hurt you with my commentary ? :puppydog:

it's absolutly not my intention !
I'm just sad to see that no real Immediate are availible for sale, and for more don't have any idea about songs when I have buy Epicon... just that ! ;-)

I'm so sorry if my commentary have hurted you, my real appologies if yes...

really exept that I'm so glad and happy to can have an oportunities to talk with one of my favourite "composer" !! :-D
for more you look really nice !! =)

again, sorry for my maybe too "agressive" message, but really this came directly from my heart and i'll always cry for a true release ! :puppydog:

Greetings, and again happy new year and merry christmas to you, with love, Keira. :-*


ps: and I totally understand you about your music on download, I think me too was disapointed if I was see my music on some forums... O:]

itunes sells at normal rates...

sorry, but of course, as a good sound lover, for me Itunes don't sale music, he stole peoples like pirates, I never buy music in mp3 format... for more when this is 192kbps or something like that ! O:] ;-)

but it still costs around $60,000 a show...

ok, so in this way maybe you can work with The Hollywood Studio Symphony !? =)

if I remember right, this is a "low budget coast" orchestra ?
Var�se sarabande always use them for these recordings, and this is not really a "rich" label... O:]

but of course I think you have already think to all this solutions that was not really solutions I can imagine for you... :-P

kiss :-*

I we were all just music pirates we would just search for links here and download stuff without saying something.

As you can see a lot of the people here take the time to read everything and write extensive answers. Pirates wouldn't do that, they download and move on... =)

ok, so in this way maybe you can work with The Hollywood Studio Symphony !? =)

if I remember right, this is a "low budget coast" orchestra ?
Var�se sarabande always use them for these recordings, and this is not really a "rich" label... O:]

but of course I think you have already think to all this solutions that was not really solutions I can imagine for you... :-P

kiss :-*

Zimmer uses this studio also.
But I think you can hear it in the music. There is nothing better than the Londen Orchestra with the Metro Voices. Real instruments are still far better then synth imo

Zimmer uses this studio also.
But I think you can hear it in the music. There is nothing better than the Londen Orchestra with the Metro Voices. Real instruments are still far better then synth imo

:naughty:
�h�h, sure that Zimmer use Remote Control (Media Ventures) !!
he is the creator and producer of the company !!! O:] :-P

many many composers have working for Zimmer on this company, that he have created with his friend Jay Rifkin now more than 10 years ago !!

but Media Ventures is bad, this is a real slave camp !
many composers slaves on Zimmer's scores, composed more than the half of the disc, and at the end the only credit goes to Zimmer... bad guy !!! :-(

the list is impossible to made, but some composers example to have worked for Zimmer:
John Powell, Harry Gregson Williams, Nick Glennie Smith, Trevor Morris, James Dooley, Henning Lohner, Rupert Gregson Williams, Trevor Rabin, Ilan Eshkeri (one time only), Klaus Badelt, Mark Mancina, Steve Jablonsky, John Van Tongeren, Steven M. Stern, Lisa Gerrard, Geoff Zanelli and many many others... =-O

:naughty:
�h�h, sure that Zimmer use Remote Control (Media Ventures) !!
he is the creator and producer of the company !!! O:] :-P

many many composers have working for Zimmer on this company, that he have created with his friend Jay Rifkin now more than 10 years ago !!

but Media Ventures is bad, this is a real slave camp !
many composers slaves on Zimmer's scores, composed more than the half of the disc, and at the end the only credit goes to Zimmer... bad guy !!! :-(

the list is impossible to made, but some composers example to have worked for Zimmer:
John Powell, Harry Gregson Williams, Nick Glennie Smith, Trevor Morris, James Dooley, Henning Lohner, Rupert Gregson Williams, Trevor Rabin, Ilan Eshkeri (one time only), Klaus Badelt, Mark Mancina, Steve Jablonsky, John Van Tongeren, Steven M. Stern, Lisa Gerrard, Geoff Zanelli and many many others... =-O

Eheh, Pirates Of The Carribean is done by the Hollywood orchestra
Look here (on the LEFT side 'Performed by'): http://www.soundtrack.net/albums/database/?id=4744

Also the simpsons: http://www.soundtrack.net/albums/database/?id=4535

And all his other albums http://www.soundtrack.net/albums/database/?id=4535

His studio with all the composers is called 'Remote Control Production', but they use the hollywood orchestra =)

Does anyone remember signing a petition to get Sony to release the score for Transformers? They claimed they were goin to release it all along, but we all know that to be a lie. Anyway, do you think that would work in this instance as a way of saying, "there are more of us than you think, and we'll happily give you money for the music?" Just a thought.

Zimmer use Remote Control (Media Ventures) !!
he is the creator and producer of the company !!! O:]


His studio with all the composers is called 'Remote Control Production', but they use the hollywood orchestra =)

eummhh...O:]
it's exactly that I have said... :-P

I don't have talk about Zimmer when I have talk about this orchestra... only that Immediate Music can be try to work with him ! :-D

Media Ventures composers also made many scores via Cubase or Gigastudio... ;-)

Does anyone remember signing a petition to get Sony to release the score for Transformers? They claimed they were goin to release it all along, but we all know that to be a lie. Anyway, do you think that would work in this instance as a way of saying, "there are more of us than you think, and we'll happily give you money for the music?" Just a thought.

euh... are you kidding me??

...and what's this?

(http://imageshack.us)

http://www.musiquedefilm.be/soundtracks.cgi?id=1383&lang=fr


you can buy it at any online or real shop... :smrt: :-P

Does anyone remember signing a petition to get Sony to release the score for Transformers? They claimed they were goin to release it all along, but we all know that to be a lie. Anyway, do you think that would work in this instance as a way of saying, "there are more of us than you think, and we'll happily give you money for the music?" Just a thought.

Yes i signed it

coz they often release an album in which u find music like linkin park or other

but for transformers, it s not a lie, since few months you can buy the real OST

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Steve-Jablonsky/dp/B000VFGQHK/ref=pd_sim_m_img_1

Oops Kirya u were faster

haha, but it DID took some time before the score got out... that's same with Sunshine ost, still no sign of it (only a custom made version)

they are not albums, they are tracks from the album volume 9.

qetuol - WRONG - World Apart / Epic Fire are not part of Brand X Volume 9.

"I'M NOT ANGRY AND I DON'T CONSIDER PEOPLE HERE PIRATES AS SUCH- I HAD RECEIVED MANY EMAILS ABOUT THIS FORUM AND I FELT I NEEDED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT"

Seriously you think it would help you at all? That these people will actually listen to you. It's too late. The only way you could prevent this from happening is you guys should start making you music availabe to the public. As some stated are willing to pay for it (including me). Other than that i'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of immediate music lovers out there that already has your albums and they are growing in numbers weather you like it or not. I feel your pain and frustration but right now there is nothing you can do about it.

Anyway, i bought globus epicon and i am sorry but boy the singers sounded more annoying than nails on a chalkboard.

qetuol - WRONG - World Apart / Epic Fire are not part of Brand X Volume 9.

mine album contains them

I've posted this a few page back and i will post it again till someone will notice it,lol.

Please help me figure out what were the music used in this promo:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ou7cWOTXJs

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Oh I know the Transformers score was released, I purchased it the day it became available. I was merely stating that I dont think Sony planned to release it until they realized how much demand there was for it. I think the petition helped with that, I could be wrong. But if it did help in that instance, maybe it would work in this one. Just to show much demand there is for their music.

Hey everyone, nice thread.

I was going through the masses of pages so I just wanted to clarify. Nemesis by Two Steps From Hell has not come out yet, right?

My second question is does anyone have Cartographer by ES Posthumus?

Thank you.

-DesiPrince

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Where can I find Cartographer by ES Posthumus? or Nemesis?

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Nope, the new double-CD by ES Posthumus will be out around jan08.

O okay, anyone hear Pathogen? is it good or does it suck?

E.S Posthumus' Cartographer will be out indeed somewhere in the beginning of january 2008... and it will be for public :)

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learn to edit a post instead of double posting so much

Yeah, seriously -.- This thread is filled with enough junk.

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Okay, somewhere I can download it. Mod should clean up thread and remove all dead links. I wouldn't mind doing it.

Does anyone know what music is played in the KotOR II Trailer from 00:48? I've been looking, but I can't seem to find it. It's an action track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6HfP4z4vho

Can someone find me Cartographer by ES Posthumus (a downloadable link?)

Can someone find me Cartographer by ES Posthumus (a downloadable link?)

Can't you read a few posts above?

today its fine

great idea

i subscribed. be sure not the let everybody in in the vip section though or the purpose of the forum is gone =)

You guys just don't get it. There are a lot of trailer music companies out there, and they all thrive on (perceived) exclusivity. I listen to trailer music far too much, which means that when I see a trailer I think "oh, there's X-Ray Dog" and not "Wow, this looks like a great movie". Movie execs don't want you thinking of anything other than their movie when you watch the trailers.

Companies like Immediate Music do not just license their music out to anyone at any time. They carefully consider when that particular piece of music was last used, how well-known it is, etc. If they feel that it is too well-known, they won't hire it out. Now imagine the damage done if someone creates a popular video on YouTube, or even if they get hold of a song and give it to a few friends (or post it on a forum like this).

Now, you say that YOU won't use it in a movie, etc. For every one of you, there are several more people that WOULD use it. Their business model is the opposite of the music industry. The music industry is trying to get the maximum number of impressions in order to do well in the charts. The trailer music industry is trying to get the most money out of the MINIMUM number of uses.

Although I came to this forum with the intent of obtaining trailer music (not actually from Immediate Music), I can completely see their point of view. I am a filmmaker but I never use such music in my films. It's more of an aid during the visualization stage. I understand, however, that there are many more people who WOULD abuse the system if it were offered to them on a plate. Such is Society unfortunately.

Shookster, I think what you said makes sense. I actually want to use some of those trailer music for my a/v projects. But at the end of the day, I listen to those as a music listener and enthusiast. If these guys in this forum didn't share them in the first place, I would never came to know and appreciate such a music. Movie executives think such ways because they stand on their point of view. So from a music listener point of view, I still encourage and hope that trailer music would be released out to public someday.

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did you have Two Steps from Hell - Volume 1? Everytime I find a link to it, its dead. :(

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Sorry to butt in,Mates:-)
However,i really have these requests.
REQUEST ONE:Brand X V1-4(320K),Brand X V9 (320K)
REQUEST TWO:XDogs'series 12 - Canis Rex I (320K),14 - Dog Eat Dog I (320K),09 - Double Live Doggie Style I (320K)
Thank you mates so much in advance!

Excellent thread!

Happy Yule Tide to all=)

The Platinum Series Vol 1 by Audiomachine is amazing
but when Vol2 ? i hope it will be same style.. epic

The last few pages of this thread have been very clarifying in some ways. Here's just my 2 cents (mostly aimed at Vanton) on the whole matter.
I totally understand your point of view when it comes to people illegally downloading your music of the net. I stumbled upon Immediate Music almost by accident, browsing this forum. I didn't know what type of music it was, and I couldn't figure out how the Epicon album fitted in -which was obviously different but still VERY enjoyable! I understand you'll need to sell a buckload of cd's to just break even the costs for producing such an album and therefore work with exclusivity and not releasing to the general public. I understand your motivation to do it like this. Therefore it's sad to see your work can be downloaded for free. Like many people have stated on this board before, I would buy the cd's if they were available. But we are hardly with enough people around to make that happen... ( I'm really gonna look for that Epicon CD now that I know it's available in stores though!) I want to support your work. However, if I hadn't visited this forum I would probably never even heard about Immediate Music or trailer music in general. I didn't even know companies like yours excisted that only provide this type of music. As you said, you released the Epicon cd to satisfy the fans to this type of music, but before I saw it here in this forum, I never even heard of it. Megastores are bulking with new artists and releases weekly, I never took notice of it (if it was marketed at all).
It kinda is like a double-edged sword. In order to make profit you either need to remain 'exclusive' to the moviecompanies - which is a problem with internet-or be so popular that you'll sell millions of copies to the general public- which will not happen because only a minority of the public are familiar with trailer music. Most people just kinda look at you when you say it's trailer music. Unknown is unloved.
Personally I would try to ask for more recognition by the distributors. Not in the actual trailers but certainly with the dvd releases. If - and I really hope it would come to this - you are able to release some of the earlier cd's you've made to the general public, I would make sure that the distributors have to include an add for your cd onto every dvd release that uses your music. They put the trailers on anyway, it's little or no trouble to include the information who made the trailer music and/or/when if it's on sale in shops.

Good luck with future projects, I really hope your work will at one time reach the massive audience it deserves.

Merry Christmas to all.

Happy Christmas everyone! Have a good day!

I checked the demo of WORLDS APART by future world music
I want it sighhhhhhhhh

it sounds very great

http://www.futureworldmusic.com/music.html

and it sounds better than nemesis :p

it s rare when i like almost all tracks in one album

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!!

Does anyone have the "bit torrent" link for Immediate Music, sorry Vanton :(
I just want to hear those wonderful sounds while I work on the computer that's all. No nicking or anything of that nature. Thank you whoever in advance. Have a great Christmas or whatever you celebrate and take care of yourselves.

Copterdude

I checked the demo of WORLDS APART by future world music
I want it sighhhhhhhhh

it sounds very great

http://www.futureworldmusic.com/music.html

and it sounds better than nemesis :p

it s rare when i like almost all tracks in one album

better than Nemesis?,???????????

no way

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searching

Into the east by Videohelper , in scorehelper4 album in good quality

anyone?

I checked the demo of WORLDS APART by future world music
I want it sighhhhhhhhh

it sounds very great

http://www.futureworldmusic.com/music.html

and it sounds better than nemesis :p

it s rare when i like almost all tracks in one album


I have it, I will not upload it because I don't have the time. But if you want any songs then pm me your msn address and I can send songs then. It's more conveniant for me.

Ok guys I'm new but I have a lot of trailer soundtrack music which I'm more than willing to share. I will not upload entire albums, because I most certainly do not have the time to waste on megaupload/rapidshare etc etc.

If you pm me your msn address I am more than willing to send you as many tracks as you like through that.

I have the following.

Audio Machine: Trailer Acts, Atomic Station and Platinum Series I
Brand X: Volumes 1-7 and 9 along with Magic Box Music
Corner Stone Cues: Requiem for a Tower
Epic Score(APM Music): Epic Aventure 1
Es Posthumus: Unearthed
Future World Music: Volumes 1, 4 , 7 and 8 (World's Apart)
Groove Addicts: Full Tilt and Eardrums Volume 1
Globus: Epicon
Imediate Music: Themes for Choir and Ochestra and Abbey Road
James Dooley: Position Music Orchestral Series Volume 2
Music Junkies: Action Volumes 1, 2, 4 and 6
Pfeifer Broz: Vienna C.H.F
Q Music: Epic Action and Aventure
Two Steps From Hell: Volume 1, Dynasty, All Drums Go to Hell, Drama 1 and Shadows and Nightmares
X Ray Dog: A Breed Apart, Canis Rex I and II, Dog Eat Dog, Fresh Meat and Mad Dog.

If anyone needs tracks then pm me.

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Can someone please upload groove addicts fullt tillt 2 and suspense & drama 3+4 ?

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I have seen on another fourm that a bunch of people have got Two Steps from Hell: Nemesis and say it's amazing. But they are not allowed to post a link on that website :(

If anyone spots it out there could they please post a link...or tell me if they were lying :P

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I saw this too , on other forum.

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We are sorry but file '366608' not found on node w3.wikifortio.com

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That's nice of you. Thanks in advance!

hmmm light version means it s just the samples we can hear from the site?

About the forum saying having nemesis, hmmm he posted 150 messages already so i dont know
he cant post in the forum but maybe by private....

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boohooo when i click download nothing happens

Size: 0 B ? too much light? lol

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! D:\WORLDS APART Volume 8 (light)(2).rar: CRC failed in WORLDS APART Volume 8 (light)\VOLUME 8 (WORLDS APART)\03 - Future World Music - 100,000 Warriors.mp3. The file is corrupt
! D:\WORLDS APART Volume 8 (light)(2).rar: CRC failed in WORLDS APART Volume 8 (light)\VOLUME 8 (WORLDS APART)\04 - Future World Music - Messengers Of Destruction.mp3. The file is corrupt
! D:\WORLDS APART Volume 8 (light)(2).rar: Unexpected end of archive

it s my IE or what??? i have problem for dl , so if someone can tell me if it s me?

king2be98 i cant send u private message m it s restricted

while having the fixed link, if you have time
i would like

08. Allegiance to the World
10. Welcome To Your Fantasy
11. Damnum et Triumphus
13 Quest for Freedom

if you can rar them and send on zshare.net?

It does work however I doubt the zip only contains 4 songs ('cause that is what appears for me). Why is it that we keep getting corrupt files? Have you tried using some other compression methods?

Hey. I appreciate the upload for world's apart, but I too am getting the corruption error from winrar.

u can find some tracks there

http://www.esnips.com/web/FutureWorldMusic
i didnt check if all tracks are there

u can find some tracks there

http://www.esnips.com/web/FutureWorldMusic
i didnt check if all tracks are there

Ok i checked m only few tracks, i dled them from the website


oops I quoted myself, instead of editing, sorry


01. World Crisis
02. The Devil’s Waltz
03. 100,000 Warriors
06. Final Judgment
09. Immortalis
11. Damnum et Triumphus
13. Quest for Freedom
16. Sin and Restitution
20. Day of Damnation

Sin and Restitution is great

I found this website http://www.sideload.com/

with the search engine, you can find some tunes

SUPER. BIGGGGG THKS.

I see a lot of people asking for Nemesis. Here is my small contribution to this forum: I give you the trak list of this release by TSFH

1. Dark Ages
2. Nemesis
3. Clash of Empires
4. Atlantis
5. Army of Justice
6. Tristan
7. Road To Relevation
8. God of Lightning
9. Sons of War
10. The Immortals
11. Wrath of Seas
12. Red Omen
13. Sky Titans
14. Hunters's Moon
15. Moving Mountains
16. Eternal Sorrow
17. Fountain of Life
18. Enigmatic Soul
19. Dominion Heart
20. False King
21. Firendship To Last

i know it s just a list but i clicked on titles like i wanted to dl :( lol

http://www.isohunt.com/download/30461458/immediate+music

Tarlar,

You are the man, if you ever need anything, please PM me. I am new here but I will do whatever I can to help you. These boards are great guys. Many helpful people. Many new friends. CHEERS!!!

Copterdude

i know it s just a list but i clicked on titles like i wanted to dl :( lol

This made my day.

Here is Future World Music's Volume 8 "World's Apart".

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7R5C7IJ3


PS. The .veg files you can delete, I forgot to myself, they're Sony Vegas files and you don't need them.

Here is Future World Music's Volume 8 "World's Apart".

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7R5C7IJ3


PS. The .veg files you can delete, I forgot to myself, they're Sony Vegas files and you don't need them.

awww twice to be sure we have it lol

thank u, i will try it now

"The Immortals" from Nemesis:
http://tinyurl.com/2v58js

"The Immortals" from Nemesis:
http://tinyurl.com/2v58js


HUH from nemesis? where did u get it? thank u , alala epic

thank u for Future world music and King

perfectttttttt

Epic Score Adventure 1.1

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z10BYWMB

Trust me it's better than anything I've heard in a long time, right up there with Wrold's Apart and Nemesis (Demo)

without forgetting Platinium vol1 by audiomachine

James Dooley's Position Music Vloume 2. The one with the very famous Trinity.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=08EXTYHW

Ok guys, that's enough from me today. Hope 2 albums and part of a 3rd satisfies you.

You guys just don't get it. There are a lot of trailer music companies out there, and they all thrive on (perceived) exclusivity. I listen to trailer music far too much, which means that when I see a trailer I think "oh, there's X-Ray Dog" and not "Wow, this looks like a great movie". Movie execs don't want you thinking of anything other than their movie when you watch the trailers.

Companies like Immediate Music do not just license their music out to anyone at any time. They carefully consider when that particular piece of music was last used, how well-known it is, etc. If they feel that it is too well-known, they won't hire it out. Now imagine the damage done if someone creates a popular video on YouTube, or even if they get hold of a song and give it to a few friends (or post it on a forum like this).

Now, you say that YOU won't use it in a movie, etc. For every one of you, there are several more people that WOULD use it. Their business model is the opposite of the music industry. The music industry is trying to get the maximum number of impressions in order to do well in the charts. The trailer music industry is trying to get the most money out of the MINIMUM number of uses.

Although I came to this forum with the intent of obtaining trailer music (not actually from Immediate Music), I can completely see their point of view. I am a filmmaker but I never use such music in my films. It's more of an aid during the visualization stage. I understand, however, that there are many more people who WOULD abuse the system if it were offered to them on a plate. Such is Society unfortunately.

Thankyou Shookster - couldn't have put it better myself

Glad you get it, however one point which is minor - we love multiple uses of our cues but we don't like multiple uses when a campaign for a new movie is in progress, that devalues the movie somewhat

The last few pages of this thread have been very clarifying in some ways. Here's just my 2 cents (mostly aimed at Vanton) on the whole matter.
I totally understand your point of view when it comes to people illegally downloading your music of the net. I stumbled upon Immediate Music almost by accident, browsing this forum. I didn't know what type of music it was, and I couldn't figure out how the Epicon album fitted in -which was obviously different but still VERY enjoyable! I understand you'll need to sell a buckload of cd's to just break even the costs for producing such an album and therefore work with exclusivity and not releasing to the general public. I understand your motivation to do it like this. Therefore it's sad to see your work can be downloaded for free. Like many people have stated on this board before, I would buy the cd's if they were available. But we are hardly with enough people around to make that happen... ( I'm really gonna look for that Epicon CD now that I know it's available in stores though!) I want to support your work. However, if I hadn't visited this forum I would probably never even heard about Immediate Music or trailer music in general. I didn't even know companies like yours excisted that only provide this type of music. As you said, you released the Epicon cd to satisfy the fans to this type of music, but before I saw it here in this forum, I never even heard of it. Megastores are bulking with new artists and releases weekly, I never took notice of it (if it was marketed at all).
It kinda is like a double-edged sword. In order to make profit you either need to remain 'exclusive' to the moviecompanies - which is a problem with internet-or be so popular that you'll sell millions of copies to the general public- which will not happen because only a minority of the public are familiar with trailer music. Most people just kinda look at you when you say it's trailer music. Unknown is unloved.
Personally I would try to ask for more recognition by the distributors. Not in the actual trailers but certainly with the dvd releases. If - and I really hope it would come to this - you are able to release some of the earlier cd's you've made to the general public, I would make sure that the distributors have to include an add for your cd onto every dvd release that uses your music. They put the trailers on anyway, it's little or no trouble to include the information who made the trailer music and/or/when if it's on sale in shops.

Good luck with future projects, I really hope your work will at one time reach the massive audience it deserves.

Merry Christmas to all.

Thanks for the kind words.

We have to compete for store space and in the UK it is pretty much available as we are distributed by Universal.

However we have to compete also with people spending millions on TV advertising - reality entertainment TV shows etc - We can't go live very often as there aren't many stages that are big enough to take the band (125 of us) unless we play large arenas etc, so we have to rely on a lot of word and mouth.

We do have the Wembley show going out on Sky TV in the UK Ch158 Sunday 30th december (PLUG) and hope those living in the UK will tune in and tell their friends!

END OF PLUG

http://www.isohunt.com/download/30461458/immediate+music

Now that IS taking the PISS

I have warned people and hoped you understood our problems.

Better change your IP as that link will be down very shortly and we do pursue people.

Vanton wb

I have a little question (maybe too much specific)
Does Immediate Music use the same choral for its tracks?
or it's often made by computer?

Vanton wb

I have a little question (maybe too much specific)
Does Immediate Music use the same choral for its tracks?
or it's often made by computer?

Our choral sections are all real! There is no substitute for 70 voices and weeks of recording

ok :)

because they make big things by computer, but of course it will never be as real choral...

ehem, do you have the translated lyric of Serenata?
Even if sometimes it's better not to know what they sing...


It's a remake of medieval song? or new composition. I guess it s latin language

ok :)

because they make big things by computer, but of course it will never be as real choral...

ehem, do you have the translated lyric of Serenata?
Even if sometimes it's better not to know what they sing...


It's a remake of medieval song? or new composition. I guess it s latin language

There's no point for a translation for us as its about effect - I didn't write it but the guy who did usually makes sense of the Latin and its a new composition.

We have adapted it for Globus and the video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvepGKH4hds&v3

Ok I have some of the Nemesis album. Let me say this, I've heard music, not like this. This is music of a divine nature, wow what an album.

Link please :O

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toshiroo, When I see how people react when they know the lyrics maybe it is better not to give them. Read the post and you will see...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fc56moy0poA

Anybody to post a link for albums of Two steps From Hell ?? thannkksss

Nemesis has 21 cues in total. The 3 demos people can listen on TSFH web site are taken from this CD. For instance the Drama montage include in this order Enigmatic Soul - Fountain of Life - False King - Eternal Sorrow and Moving Mountains.

So why don't you do all of us a favour and upload all the songs you have from this great album. :)

ohhh yes a christmas favour...

Why don't you people have patience? I'll upload the album sometime either today or tomorrow, but I'm the right mind to not post it if everyone keeps demanding it like there's no tomorrow.

Be patient, all 21 tracks of Nemesis, which are used for both the Drama and Epic demos, will be uploaded in the not so distant future.

And yes it is possibly the greatest album ever made, if not it's right up there Audio Machine's Platinum series.

Touching myself already D:

king2be98, I am sorry to be so impatient. You can't imagine how thankful I am if you upload Nemesis.
This is just THE album nearly everyone is waiting for, so I hope you can forgive us for our impatience. I didn't intend to be impolite.

toshiroo, When I see how people react when they know the lyrics maybe it is better not to give them. Read the post and you will see...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fc56moy0poA


Sigh Internet about comments...

wooohoo my country is quoted in the lyrics lol
and they sang a part in french :o I didnt hear it

Thanks man! Does anyone know where i can download the New trailer Music for the movie rob zombie's HALLOWEEN.
* "Evil Delivery" - audiomachine
* "Violation" - audiomachine
* "Invasion" - audiomachine

I've been going krzy looking for them. :)

Why don't you people have patience? I'll upload the album sometime either today or tomorrow, but I'm the right mind to not post it if everyone keeps demanding it like there's no tomorrow.

Be patient, all 21 tracks of Nemesis, which are used for both the Drama and Epic demos, will be uploaded in the not so distant future.

And yes it is possibly the greatest album ever made, if not it's right up there Audio Machine's Platinum series.

It s very nice you share your treasures, we will wait ....

show us u are the king lol, your people is waiting at the castle gate..

But no we dont have patience, because if you read previous pages we kept crying to have it
so it s normal if a guy pops up and say "I have them" without doing anything
it s kinda grrrr lol

but yes it s up to you...

Does anyone know where i can download the TRAILER music .
* "Evil Delivery" - audiomachine
* "Violation" - audiomachine
* "Invasion" - audiomachine

I'd appreciate it a lot

king2be98...if you have it, please keep it for yourself...because, if you got it from one of the secret forums, it will be against their rules. i know what i am talking about. and you dont want to lose that place of heaven! trust me, because they will hunt you down and then your are like all the others here, no privileges anymore :)

maybe i am one of the hunters.... :)

then we will hunt you arty lol

dont worry king2be98 , we will protect u lol

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WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GO GO GO

SIGH@ secret forums, are there sects too???? lol

thank you king2be98. dling it, i will tell you if it s ok
20% boohoo faster faster lol

i pray for no crc problem lol


89% ...

I uploaded it myself so I assure you there's nothing wrong with it.

yes, woohooooooooooo i have nemesissssssss


it was the 8 minutes the longest in my life lol

thank you bro i love you, je t aime, bahebak, aishiteru

king, please open your YIM or ICQ i want to offer you something!

some thimes you have to fight fire with fire :)

king, please open your YIM or ICQ i want to offer you something!

some thimes you have to fight fire with fire :)


arty back off

and if you fight fire with water it s better no? ...

king, please open your YIM or ICQ i want to offer you something!

some thimes you have to fight fire with fire :)

Come again? If you're threatening me, it's not going to work. I believe like many that Trailer Music is the only music worth listening to. If Music Production Companies don't want their Music to be leaked, they should be more secure about it. I would pay for it, I would have paid up to and over 100for Nemesis, the fact is that it's not avaliable to the general public, so I have no option but to download it.

I don't know what ICQ is, but I believe YIM is Yahoo Instant Messenger which I don't have since I never use chat programs.

it seems you got it from a "friend" which is on our board...and we made the 320 version! thats why we want you with us to prevent more leakness :) thats what i ment with fire against fire...

thats why i want to give you an invitation, but it doesnt work with out any IM.

it seems you got it from a "friend" which is on our board...and we made the 320 version! thats why we want you with us to prevent more leakness :) thats what i ment with fire against fire...

thats why i want to give you an invitation, but it doesnt work with out any IM.


320 version means?
invitation? it smells the trap lol

<-- typing secret forum trailer in google lol

it seems you got it from a "friend" which is on our board...and we made the 320 version! thats why we want you with us to prevent more leakness :) thats what i ment with fire against fire...

thats why i want to give you an invitation, but it doesnt work with out any IM.

I don't think you quite understand my principals and my ideas of trailer music. I know how you find it tough to believe that I didn't get the music from someone from a forum of sort. I downloaded it myself, each song individually, I found 1 in a different form elsewhere as you'll see.

I have windows messenger, with the same username, if you want to discuss anything as such.

Definate trap, that's why I never ever do such things from home, the University is a great place. I am no fool arty.

Oh guess what Arty only has 3 posts to his name, think the smell of Nemesis lured him here? Think Arty is in Two Steps from Hell?

aight, calling u over msn! see ya there!

so dont add him on msn if u smell same....

i thank you again for sharing....

if he s from tsfh, wouaw after Immediate music, .... it s a famous forum lol

anyway, we dont sell our dls, we dont work for companies so ....
these companies wont lose money coz me if they dont sell to public,
if it was sold for public, yes its different , i would be a thief....

king, are you sure its the same name on msn? :) because i cant find you!

if i were from 2sfh...i would talk to the admin and not to you guys :)

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH TO THE PIRATEMOBILE

arty,
just a question if i may...

why you think it s a problem if many ppl have these albums?
if you had it by dling, u not different no?

it s just a question ok?
i want to know why it would be secret to have nemesis


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u were spying?? lol

The whole world isn't .com

King2be98 - Music Production Companies watermarked their cues!!! So unlike what you may think they secure them. Unfrotunately fame never pay and it is not the people here who will help you when they will sue you!!! So sure people on this forum are going to get off your case now but maybe not MPC.

found you!
now you have to get on :)

King2be98 - Music Production Companies watermarked their cues!!! So unlike what you may think they secure them. Unfrotunately fame never pay and it is not the people here who will help you when they will sue you!!! So sure people on this forum are going to get off your case now but maybe not MPC.

A digital watermark can be "deleted"...

Inevitably these trailer music albums are ceased by the public. If they don't get Nemesis today or tomorrow they get it in a month's time or year's time, they do eventually get it.

Digital watermarks can be encoded with random or pseudo random keys, which act as secret maps for locating the watermarks. These keys make it impossible for a party without the key to find the watermark

Digital watermarks can be encoded with random or pseudo random keys, which act as secret maps for locating the watermarks. These keys make it impossible for a party without the key to find the watermark


there is a reason why I used ""
there is a method to have audio without keeping the watermarked data

i mean, without having modificated the originale file and keep a clean version ....

i am not hacker and i dont care...

and the problems would be for the buyers, not for the internet downloaders....

the company can trace them in the p2p net.... but they just can know to who these tracks have been sold...

king2be98, thank you a thousand times for uploading this album!!

And don't care about that arty guy. Wether its a trap or not, a "secret forum" where everyone is proud to be privileged compared to others is just dumb and selfish.
As you said those guys don't get point of this hole case. This music shouldn't be for "privileged" people only and the effort to prevent such a forum from leakiness is absurd since people will get it anyway by and by.

hey i missed the "nemesis" dl link
can someone give it to me or reupload it?

many thanks

I am making this request, since I uploaded it, please do not post the link. I have been warned by admin and I will be the one to suffer the consequences. So please do not.

I am making this request, since I uploaded it, please do not post the link. I have been warned by admin and I will be the one to suffer the consequences. So please do not.

sounds death consequence ....

When we warn you...

sounds death consequence ....


My principals remain the same, but please don't put up the link, not for the while yet.

oh okay...so there is no way to get it from here anymore

My principals remain the same, but please don't put up the link, not for the while yet.


read your private message :)

A digital watermark can be "deleted"...

Ours can't - if they could there are a lot of broadcasters who would like to know how ;-)

We do have the Wembley show going out on Sky TV in the UK Ch158 Sunday 30th december (PLUG) and hope those living in the UK will tune in and tell their friends!

END OF PLUG

I hope to see it one day, we don't have Sky TV, let's hope the show will get picked up internationally. Best of luck to all the musicians!

Thank you King2be98,

Greetings from Two Steps From Hell and Merry X-Mas to everyone.

Two Steps From Hell: you are gods among men.

I hope to see it one day, we don't have Sky TV, let's hope the show will get picked up internationally. Best of luck to all the musicians!

We believe it will be shown on www.joost.com in mid january on the Film24 channel there

Thank you King2be98,

Greetings from Two Steps From Hell and Merry X-Mas to everyone.


sigh u lied to me lol

u said u were not...

merry xmas to u too...

I have removed the link for the Nemesis Album which I personally uploaded. Those of you who were fortunate enough to get it before I removed it due to confidential reasons, congrats, but I hope you fulfill my equest to not post the link.

Arty gave his view of where he stand with providing material to the general public and though I do understand what he says, I still believe the public should have access to it.

As you're all aware I am kind enough to post any material which you request, but I cannot post Nemesis for the time being. Please don't keep asking me questions on where I get it or why I took off the link. All that matters is I removed it because of a warning, there are many other forums from which I have been banned for posting material by Audio Machine, Brand X etc etc, I don't want to get banned again.

Trailer Music is leaked someway or another eventually, you'll get Nemesis eventually.

If any of yout wanted to know about Epic Score, you can actually download their material for free from their site. so please do visit them. Some of their material is exceptional and in my opinion right up there with the best of them.

Try apmmusic.com, I've only been on this site a brief while but my pm box ix getting stacked up with messages.

I will answer and reply to what I can.

Yes guys I mistyped, Audio Machine only have 1 Platinum series with 3 CDs, there is no 2nd Platinum series. Must have been a mistake when I was typing, so my apologies.

I think I'm just gonna cry.

What the hell! I missed Nemesis by a few minutes! I'm going to go on a mall shooting spree now because of you.

(I'm kidding, don't call the cops)

Thank you guys so much for all of this music, some are expired, but I found a few that aren't, so thanks a lot!!

Thank you guys so much for all of this music, some are expired, but I found a few that aren't, so thanks a lot!!

Can someone reupload Position Music Orchestral Series Vol. 1 and 2 on a different server it doesn't seem to let me download on those servers and some are deleted, thanks so much!!

Was Nemesis posted?

And I missed it :(

I missed it too, now i'm very sad. :'(

I don't see why it can't just be made avalible to the public. People love the music why not let them have it. It's music not crack!

Oh well...maybe next Xmas...

I'm gonna go and cry :(

ah come on people, there are worse things :P

ah come on people, there are worse things :P

Of course there worse things but just because of I'm not a geek one and go out for shopping... I missed Nemesis too.... So Sad :(
Well now I know that I should stay always behind my PC or to pay someone to do it for me ;)

Hello everyone, I am the composer of Nemesis for Two Steps From Hell (and also the co-founder of the company). We are very grateful for the tremendous interest in our album and our music, and we realize it's inevitable that our music leaks out to the fans of our of music around the globe. We are planning a future commercial release with our best tracks from our catalogue and we hope everyone here will have the decency to support our work when the time comes. I spent over a year writing the music that would eventually be featured on Nemesis, and I truly hope you respect this effort. It takes a lot of hard work to pull off something like this. It is not just production music, I really put my heart and soul in this work but I never expected it to be such a sought after album. We at Two Steps From Hell would like to express our greatest appreciation for the kind words from our fan base, and we hope you will continue to support us in the future. The best is yet to come!! I'm about to finish Nemesis II (subtitled "Legend"), which is another step (pun intended :) ) forward. We are recording the final pieces just after the new year begins, and Two Steps From Heaven, a major CD featuring an amazing live orchestra and choir in mid 2008. Stay tuned, the best is yet to come.

It has been said again and again in this thread, but it cannot be stated too often: The trailer music companies can only make money for future productions as long as the music remains exclusive and rare. By posting our music everywhere for the public to download you are directly hurting our business. I think most of you understand this, and really just want to download our music to listen to it in private. That's why I ask that you do not spread our music further if/when you acquire it, to prevent too much damage to our business. We are forced to take legal action against administrators and site owners who actively spread our music to the public, simply because there's a direct correlation between income and public file sharing. We spend money watermarking our music to track the source from which distributions came, and we will actively pursue these offenders.
Please remember that we at Two Steps From Hell are very passionate about what we do and we would like to continue to write music that appeals to the public, but if the sharing continues it is going to be hard to surivive, and our fans will suffer.

To answer another question brought up earlier in the thread: Troels Folmann (Composer of Tomb Raider) is a great friend, and one of our regular writers. He has written some great music for us and will continue to write for us in the future. That's why some people might find similarities. That's simply his style. We really try to write original music as opposed to knocking off popular film scores. We are artists and we like to retain that artistry by keeping our integrity as composers intact. I personally composed the Scorehelper vol.4 "Into the East" score which someone requested. This is also a production music library and the same rules apply.

One final request of decency and respect: Please do not use our music in your own personal productions and upload them to youtube etc. We occasionally give permission to our fans to use our music in limited productions such as school plays and student films, but please let us know by email: [email protected] before you do.

Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year from everyone at Two Steps From Hell

All the best,
Thomas J. Bergersen

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anyway i dnt really have a point, just wannted to say Two steps from hell rule!

amen to that.

How do i private message someone o_O. I can't find the feature anywhere =/

Those who had Nemesis, would you be so kind to reupload it? Please understand our feelings, people who didn't make it in time!!!

To Thomas: I reckon your courtesy and promise will not use Two Steps from Hell's music in my future production. I did it to test my ability and actually never published or presented my projects anywhere in public. I want Nemesis purely as a music listener because I appreciate good music and your works are sure among them. All the best.

I don't think so, in respect to Thomas and all TSFH crew. Although I wanted it just for my own listening, I understand their point.

Anyway, I still think they should sell 96 or 128 kbps albums (which I suppose it's not good enough for production but ok for listening at home), with all cues from the original album (not just a selected few), possibly with DRM so one cannot copy or reproduce their music everywhere.

Just my 2c.

First: Nemesis is great
Second: I'm glad there will be an official album from TFSH that we can buy. I hope it contains all the music from Nemesis 1 and 2 without new voicals or additional instruments. Just the album as it is now
Third: Oh no, Nemesis 2. Again months of looking everywhere on the web =(

Happy holidays everyone. And thanks Thomas for giving us 'hope' for a commercial release. I hope all the tracks of Nemesis make it in their full integrity to that album and I'll buy it for sure. Just don't ruin the music like they did with 'Epicon - Globus'. Also thanks for answering my question (cfr Troels Follman). I know exactly which tracks he did on Nemesis with his own specific style =)

PS: It's a bit strange to tease us with 'the best is yet to come' when we know we won't even get the music the normal way and we have to wait again for months after release. But anyway, I'm a fan =)

Hello everyone, I am the composer of Nemesis for Two Steps From Hell (and also the co-founder of the company).

Red carpet on the forum ...


We are planning a future commercial release with our best tracks from our catalogue and we hope everyone here will have the decency to support our work when the time comes

You mean a best of for the public?
if yes, You can be sure you have my money !!!
but don't remix themmmmmm


The best is yet to come!! I'm about to finish Nemesis II

boooohoo but the best is yet to come for companies which can buy, not us :(



I personally composed the Scorehelper vol.4 "Into the East" score which someone requested.

I love this song, I just heard it two days ago on their website
but why don't you do the same kinds of websites
we can hear their music, and it s a medium quality
So companies cannot use them for their products



Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year from everyone at Two Steps From Hell

Merry Xmas to you and all members, big hug lol

great job @ Nemesis. it seems you knew what I wanted to hear...

All the best,
Thomas J. Bergersen[/QUOTE]

Third: Oh no, Nemesis 2. Again months of looking everywhere on the web

LOL I thought same
pffff stop releasing excellent music, i want to spend my time in real life...


Just don't ruin the music like they did with 'Epicon - Globus'.

Epicon Globus is great album, I understand you because we know the originale tracks, but we can't say it's bad
It's just another style and it sounds good.

But I dont think TSFH will release originale tracks too...
because they will lose their business..
If all companies want Nemesis (sigh I love this name, I was used to be called Nemesis in my games ), they will just wait the public cd??

LOL I thought same
pffff stop releasing excellent music, i want to spend my time in real life...

H�h�, I'm already overexited for Nemesis 2 now =)
We now have only 21 tracks, but all are great. Dynasty had only a few great tracks.



Epicon Globus is great album, I understand you because we know the originale tracks, but we can't say it's bad
It's just another style and it sounds good.

I am a fan of symphonic metal like nightwish. They also use a huge orchestra and choir. But if immediate music wanted to do something like Epicon, they should made it much more metal (like nightwish) instead of pop rock IMO. Like the song Nightwish -Ghost Love Score...



But I dont think TSFH will release originale tracks too...
because they will lose their business..
If all companies want Nemesis (sigh I love this name, I was used to be called Nemesis in my games ), they will just wait the public cd??
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By releasing their original tracks for sale for people like us I don't think they will have a million of customers. There are not that many trailer music lovers like us. No one of my family or friends understands that I can listen to that music. So I think even if you sell the music to people like us, the music would still be 'rare'.

I am a fan of symphonic metal like nightwish. They also use a huge orchestra and choir. But if immediate music wanted to do something like Epicon, they should made it much more metal (like nightwish) instead of pop rock IMO. Like the song Nightwish -Ghost Love Score...
Have you ever listened to Kamelot? They are a super super awesome symphonic metal band.

Have you ever listened to Kamelot? They are a super super awesome symphonic metal band.
I know them. But I don't like male vocals. Sound silly probably but I just don't like it.
I like : epica, within temptation, nightwish, after forever, imperia, ... All with female vocals =)

I know them. But I don't like male vocals. Sound silly probably but I just don't like it.
I like : epica, within temptation, nightwish, after forever, imperia, ... All with female vocals =)

I think Khan is an expert male vocalist. Their latest two albums are superb IMO. I like those bands you listed too. I remember being so obsessed with WT's signer, her voice to be exact.

Thomas, first i'd like to thank you for coming here and calmly telling us your side of the story, and while i do not have a collection of trailer music i was fortunate enough to catch Nemesis
(i will not spread nor use it, obviously).

It's obvious to anyone who listens that you did put your heart and soul into this, the music is life-changing, pure genius and inspiring beyond words and while i do not have the right to share it - i do consider it a loss that such masterpiece of an album will have to stay confined to a small and fortunate group of people.
But such is life.

On your commercial project i would like to tell you that i will most definitely support and so will anyone who has heard any of your work, not to mention the word of mouth. But please, if/when you do release it, do not alter or remix the music, do not add vocals that weren't there in the first place.. No offense to anyone but reading this thread i can see that one such project was not well received by the fan-base because of the added overlaying vocals.

In any way, i wish the best of luck and success to you, Merry Xmas! :D

Does someone know how much cost their albums for companies?

let's build a company then buy lol, we share fees

the FFS� corp. lol

does anyone have or know where i can get the original music for "the passion of the christ" teaser??

hyprdud1. you can get it here http://www.johndebney.com/debney.php

@ Thomas from STfH, welcome to the forum, it’s great to see the actual composers to start taking notice of these places. I have not heard anything from TSfH but reading the feedback by some of the members here it must be quite special. At this point I am more keen on hearing when the commercial album will be released than actually acquiring your work through illegal download (it WAS indeed kinda weird that you’re teasing the people here with ’the best is yet to come’ when we are never supposed to get hold of the tracks in the first place :p )
-Unless of course you were referring to the commercial album, be sure to keep us all posted when that disk is available for purchase. I have an open mind to ’alternate’ versions of existing tracks -I think Epicon was a very worthy addition WITH the vocals. It took a bit of time getting used to as we were used to the original compositions but it DOES work to great effect as a standalone album. For instance, the choice of lyrics for ‘Europa’ /Electric Romeo is downright bizarre, yet it works and gives me chills. Although the original compositions are the most loved by a select group of people it will be cool to see any new renditions too. (even if I don’t know the original compositions of your work)
In closing, I do think people will start realising we can’t keep using all this music for our own little endeavours on youtube, that ‘rare & exclusive’ are a necessity to keep this music around. Posts like yours and Vanton’s will at least change the minds of some people.
Happy holidays!

Can any one send me nemesis with a pm?

i love two steps from hell :)

Can any one send me nemesis with a pm?

i love two steps from hell

Idem
Please
Upload Nemesis

Pleas upload Nemesis...
I�m so sad

Thanks so much for understanding our side of the story, guys. It is really all we ask for and you've been kind enough to respect this. Also, thanks a lot for your kind and humbling words! Our fans are an important motivation factor for us, and that's why we are planning the commercial release. Rest assured that we have no intentions to alter our music for this album. Enjoy the holidays!

I have had several PMs requesting Nemesis, all with their own various reasons as to why I should upload/provide them with it, but I will say the same thing to all of you. Some of your pms have been most fascinating I might add.

I will not be posting Nemesis, yes I believe everyone should be able to listen to trailer music, however I don't think I will be held accountable for whatever happens if anything does happen.

I will repeat again to those who did get a hold of Nemesis via my link, please do not upload the album or provide the link. You're lucky I put it up in the 1st place, so please don't ruin any chance of me ever providing any form of music.

For the 2 who asked about Platinum Volume I by Audio Machine, yes I do have it, but it's a very large file, I don't intend on uploading it all in one go, so please bare with me on that.

Fair enought TSFH. You guys are great.

Good luck with Nemesis 2. Can't wait to hear the demo :)

P.S. Anyone had any luck with the Hitman TV spot 2 music???

TJB, it's really nice of you to take a look around here. I'm glad to hear that your're not going to alter the tracks. Let's hope this will be a further step for the public future of this music.

Keep it up!

P.S. Anyone had any luck with the Hitman TV spot 2 music???

Nop it's a fan remix I've heard....

If the fan remix was any good cud u post a link?

If the fan remix was any good cud u post a link?

I dont have it, i kept searching it... but i gave up lol

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we hope...we hope...a quick upload...by my side..i m always searching..on the net..but it seems...impossible to find it..

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stop asking about nemesis in this forum lol

it s forbidden.....

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hyprdud1. you can get it here http://www.johndebney.com/debney.php

thanks, but Nono, but do you know or does anybody know where i can download the song?

thanks, but Nono, but do you know or does anybody know where i can download the song?

I think Nono will ask you to buy the albums lol

Hello ... I am new here ... I search the Treilermusic of "Gone baby Gone" and " Pride and Glory ". This would have to be called believe I "House of Cards". Would be nice if here uploaden would be able to.

My english is not good. I come from german

I'm looking for Groove Addicts full tilt volume 2 and suspense & drama 3+4...
isn't anybody here who can upload them?

edit, ignore this space please.....

I got the Nemises album today, its awesome, ya'll should go buy it, your missing out on some amazing music!!!

Buy where again?

Read some posts back, there was a link for download but the guys from TSFH asked to remove it (including the composer himself!).

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I really don't see the point of people saying "I've got it but you can't have it".
Either share it or remain silent.

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Dont be fool ? do you see how many peoples have this album , and no one uploads it ? do you know why? if someone wanna so , talk about it in private , and send songs by email.

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Please hurry! Must have!!!111

please i want nemesis. heres my email. [email protected]

I'm unable to PM you, but I would love to listen to nemesis. I have other trailer music tracks to share, but you would have them all already.

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Please don't fill up my inbox with requests, I don't have the time or the resources to upload the entire album, if you want an individual track you can e-mail me.

Can help with requests , have it 2