Are you sure that's not a computer version specific question? I know you mentioned it could be when you initially asked it, but I only have the psx version and I don't remember any of those.

Well, I haven't played the PSX version since 2000-01, and only in the last few weeks started again on PC so I can't really say for sure. I do know I had to use screen capture to study the image. When that scene played out, I don't know why but something caught my eye hence the screen capture. It was only after looking at it for a while, as well as looking online about it, I came up with those responses.

Are you sure that's not a computer version specific question? I know you mentioned it could be when you initially asked it, but I only have the psx version and I don't remember any of those.

It sure must be. Personally I can't know because I haven't played the PC version. As for PSX, I started a new game just to find out whether there actually is something and from what I could see it's just random words on the screen. Either that or I'm blind.

If I could post a screen cap here of it, I would. But for some reason I can't post pictures, cause every time I try to upload a picture, I get a 'exceed quota' message.

Try finding an image-hosting site and post the link to where you store it here.

Here, I got it:




Again, the messages are "I will never let you forget about me." "Bring me back there." and "I am alive." (And, as has been stated, the message is from Adel.)

Here, I got it:




Again, the messages are "I will never let you forget about me." "Bring me back there." and "I am alive." (And, as has been stated, the message is from Adel.)

Yup yup. I played my copy of the PSX version and that IS still there. It's outside the tv station not inside... my bad.

You know, that's kinda creepy if you think about it. Too bad that the background quality of the PC version (and music too) sucks because it might be easier to see.

Yea, I thought you meant when the scene takes place on that board from the perspective inside the studio.

But I also never paid attention to most background like that, unless it instantly sticks out to me when I enter an area.

Ya, same for me too. I never was into the tiny details of anything except when I'm making music because, like any person doing their own work, everything must be PERFECT!!

But I admit, it is kinda cool. Is there anything else like that in the game because odds are that I didn't even notice.

There are any number of secrets within all Final Fantasy games, some more difficult to extract than others. We could probably go on about them for a fair while, but that's not really the topic. We still have an active trivia question, so let's get on with it-- Enikdoh, if you're reading, would you go ahead and post a hint or award to someone who has posted one of the partial answers? (Personally, I don't know the answer.)


(Oh, and P.S. -- part of the reason why the message is just plain so difficult to see is because it's constantly scrolling when you see it within the game. So, really, unless you're very good at deciphering that sort of thing, it's very hard to make it out if you're looking at it in-game.)

Wow, that is spooky. I knew the TV interference was caused by Adel's Tomb, but I always believed it was the tomb's technology itself that was the case, and not Adel's magic ( I seem to recall a technician on the Lunar Base stating that the tomb uses an immense magic suppression field which is so powerful, it affects communications on the planet below). Anyway, that is an awesome find XD. :D

*dons anorak and engineer cap* ;)

As for my question, both Shadow Mage and XD came close, but they only stated some of the routes available. In total, there are six separate train routes on the Western Continent (although one of those is no longer running):

Timber - Balamb
Timber - Dollet via East Academy
Timber - Esthar Border/Great Salt Lake via Horizon Bridge and Fisherman's Horizon (trains are no longer running on this line by the time the game takes place and is abandoned.)
Timber - Deling City via Desert area/D District Prison
Timber - Deling City (direct route)
Deling City - Galbadia Garden

Incidentally, only trains on the Timber to Balamb and Timber to Dollet (but only as far as East Academy) lines have to be ridden on to progress the storyline - the rest are optional. Note also that the Timber Owl's personal train doesn't count in this list. ;)

Anyway, the next question is open to either XD or Shadow Mage, seeing as how they both came close. Whoever gets in first feel free to post. ;)

During Edea's Parade in Galbadia, the dance moves being performed by the masked dancers are similar to the dance moves used in a song by Michael Jackson. Name the song.

Is it a popular MJ song?
Because I have no idea which one it might. I started watching MJ videos just to try and find out. Hopefully I'll get it.

It's gotta be Thriller.

At least someone from my home state beat me to it. Unless you're from the country, Georgia?

Seru_Kai is correct. The masked dancers are indeed dancing in the same style as the dancers from Michael Jackson's Thriller. The next question is yours Seru_Kai.

That was actually asked in the past...and I got it right (I didn't know exactly that it was Thriller. It just reminded me of it when someone said that it was the dance moves of one of MJ's songs).

I still haven't watched the video to see and compare yet lol

That was actually asked in the past...and I got it right (I didn't know exactly that it was Thriller. It just reminded me of it when someone said that it was the dance moves of one of MJ's songs).

I still haven't watched the video to see and compare yet lol

It was? My bad...

Nah it's cool. At some point or another, there will not be a question that hasn't been asked already.

But that goes with everything though.

At least someone from my home state beat me to it. Unless you're from the country, Georgia?

Oh, it's the state, not the country ;)

And for my question!

List the bosses that can have GF's drawn from them, and what GF's you get when you draw. (Probably been asked before, but I'm having trouble thinking [drinking]).

Coincidence! I've been drinking. I'll give this a shot.

Elvoret - Siren
Iguion - Carbunkle
NORG - Leviathan
Edea - Alexander
Ultima Weapon - Eden

I believe that's it.

You left one out. ONE!

It's gotta be the drinking.

Hintidy Hint Hint: Disc 2.

Elvoret - Siren
Iguions - Carbuncle
NORG - Leviathan
Fujin - Pandemona
Edea - Alexander
Ultima Weapon - Eden

XD is right! I blame Thieves' drinking ;) Pandemona is the one that's least obvious IMO, unless you're used to drawing from every boss/monster.

Your question XD.

When approaching Laguna's office in Esthar, there's a detailed painting on one of the walls. What is the town depicted in the painting?

I believe it's of Winhill? Not entirely sure though.

lol I knew that was a easy question. Seru_Kai is correct though, the painting is of Winhill.

Next question is yours Seru_Kai

List the items needed, the location, and at what point in the game you can aquire Doomtrain.

Easy, but I've starting to forget a lot about VIII.

It's 6 Malboro Tentacle, 6 Remedy+ and 6 Steel Pipe and then you activate it using the Solomon's Ring you find at Tear's Point. Which you can access after leaving Esthar city.

I don't even have to say this, but your question hahaha.

Okay, this is probably fairly easy too, but we'll see. After Laguna goes up on stage with Julia and gets his supposed leg cramp, Ward says that their popularity rating has gone up a point, but Kiros assigns Laguna what number on the "manliness scale"?

Heh, that is one of my favourite FFVIII quotes. ;)

Kiros says he rates an ego-deflating -3. :p

And I just checked that too with a screenshot of the scene in question.

You got it. Your question.

I've always loved that part. Because Laguna is such a doofus then and I've always found him hilarious (because a lot of the time, I'd react the same way too. Except actually say hi. I'm too shy to do that still...)

Well, it was clearly something he had been working towards for quite a while before he actually got up the courage to go over and do it.

great question, i love that scene

Okay! Here's my question:

Name the four different weapons (attacks) that Gilgamesh uses in disc 4, and their effects.

Gilgamesh's attacks are Zantetsuken, Excalibur, Excalipur (Excalipoor) and Masamune. Zantetsuken is exactly the same as Odin's version. Excalibur does strong non-elemental damage, whereas Excalipur (Excalipoor) does just 1 damage. Masamune does high non-elemental damage.

XD got it. :) Go ahead and ask a question when you're ready.

List the cost and the items needed to make each of the playable characters (Squall, Rinoa, Quistis, Zell, Selphie and Irvine) ultimate weapon.

Are you kidding me...?
I only remember Squall's.
12x: Pulse Ammo
4x: Dragon Fangs
1x: Adamantite

This question is ridiculous. Anyone answering can simply use Google and find the answers.

Are you kidding me...?
I only remember Squall's.
12x: Pulse Ammo
4x: Dragon Fangs
1x: Adamantite

This question is ridiculous. Anyone answering can simply use Google and find the answers.

If you don't like the question, then wait til there's a question you like and then answer.

This question is ridiculous. Anyone answering can simply use Google and find the answers.

You do realize anyone can google any of the answers right? And with that being said, you might as well keep repeating yourself every time someone else asks a question.

You do realize anyone can google any of the answers right? And with that being said, you might as well keep repeating yourself every time someone else asks a question.

The way I see it, a good question is the one that can't be answered with the help of Google. Why don't you pay a visit to the FFXII Trivia and try to google the answer of the current question there? I'm pretty sure you can't.
Now as for XD's question: He either expects to remember every single component of every ultimate weapon of every character in the game (Highly unlikely if you ask me) or he thinks we're stupid enough not to use Google to find the answer to that ridiculous question. I mean what's even the point of a question like that? Explain that to me, please.

I'm sorry, but I actually have to agree with Smarty on this one, and disqualify the question. Xiahou Dun, you can yap and gripe as much as you like, but you're really being ridiculous. Do you honestly expect anyone to be able to remember all of that info? Are you telling us you do? I'm sorry, but it's an awful question.

Then what's the point in having a trivia section and asking a question, only to have it invalidated because someone doesn't like it? Kinda hypocritical if you ask me. I'd be more than willing to discuss this with you Agent0042 via PM if you want.


Xiahou Dun, you can yap and gripe as much as you like, but you're really being ridiculous. Do you honestly expect anyone to be able to remember all of that info? Are you telling us you do? I'm sorry, but it's an awful question.

For the record, I was not 'yapping and griping' either.

I myself may not know the answer to that question, only because FFVIII gave me such a hard time, but I see no reason why someone out there couldn't get it :-/ That seems pretty ridiculous to me to disqualify it..

Oh, all right, fine. Now that I think about it some more, maybe somebody could get that one. Let's give it at least a couple days...

I don't know, we seem to have the same 10 people in all the trivia sections, seems pretty wasteful to sit here when no one is going to post it. I do think questions like these should be excluded, seeing as you need picture perfect memory, have a save game when able to customize (technically cheating), or use google/strategy guide (certainly cheating).

The main problem with a question like this is that when someone rattles off the answers in pristine form, everyone would think they cheated in some way. There have been some questions (in every trivia thread) that really test information you'd gain only from playing the game, and not by google. There have also been plenty of questions that were over the top on the scale of technical (this question), difficulty, or reseach-required.

I say XD just asks a new question, and in the future no questions like these (at least not for every character at the same time).

I'm not unreasonable so I shall post a new question to 'keep the masses happy'.

There are three sorts of Draw points in the game. What are they?

and the answer for:

List the cost and the items needed to make each of the playable characters (Squall, Rinoa, Quistis, Zell, Selphie and Irvine) ultimate weapon.

Squall
Lionheart
Adamantine x1
Dragon Fang x4
Pulse Ammo x12
Cost = 2000 gil

Rinoa
Shooting Star
Windmill x2
Regen Ring x1
Force Amulet x1
Energy Crystal x2
Cost = 1000 gil

Quistis
Save the Queen
Malboro Tentacle x2
Sharp Spike x4
Energy Crystal x4
Cost = 800 gil

Zell
Ehrgeiz
Adamantine x1
Dragon Skin x4
Fury Fragment x1
Cost = 800 gil

Selphie
Strange Vision
Adamantine x1
Star Fragment x3
Curse Spike x2
Cost = 200 gil

Irvine
Exeter
Dino Bone x1
Moon Stone x1
Star Fragment x2
Screw x18
Cost = 800 gil

I'll take a crack at the new one, though I'm not sure if my answer is what you are looking for:

Renewable - Spells will regenerate at the draw point every so often and you can draw from it again
Non-Renewable - Spells at these draw points will not regenerate, you can only draw from them once
Hidden - These draw points can only be seen if you have Move/Find equipped, or in the case of ones on the World Map, can't be seen at all. They can be renewable or non-renewable.

Thats the word I couldn't think of --- renewable. Gah!

And the world map ones are renewable since you can walk around Island Closest to Heaven/Hell and stock up on all the top level stuff. (at least I don't remember any world map ones being non-renewable).

I was looking for the following:

Seen, Unseen and Hidden (Which you got Agent0042).

Seen are the ones you can see right away.
Unseen are usually hidden behind objects etc.
Hidden with the GF Move-Find ability, can be found.

I'll give the credit to you Agent0042. Your question.

All right. Let's go for this one-- what was the original name of the "Occult Fan" magazine?

haha I know this one! It's 'BOO! Monthly' ! Once you read that in Dollet you never forget haha!

Man it's been too long since I played FFVIII.. I don't recall a single answer to anything people have been posting in here :'(

Yeah, you have it 7alentine.

sweet my turn...

What is the first time you can witness an enemy using the spell 'Aura' ?

The last fight with Seifer?

I'm thinking Raijin Fujin fight on disc 2? I know he uses it, I just don't know if it's the first time you see it.

Nope, both wrong sorry.

Oh I think I remember... the big robot thing you fight at the top of the D-District Prison, just before escaping. I don't remember the random combination of letters and numbers that are it's name, if that's what you're looking for...

close enough, its actually the general behind them that uses it. your go

Too long has this thread had inactivity!!!

There is a way to obtain the Lionheart on disc 1 without playing card games. How is that done?

Using the 'Card' ability, using the 'Card Mod' ability, using that one ability to refine ammo from items, and killing stuff to get the other stuff you need?

you have to level up heaps so that the Elastoids have Energy Cannon's able to steal from them, that way you can refine them into Pulse Ammo

you have to level up heaps so that the Elastoids have Energy Cannon's able to steal from them, that way you can refine them into Pulse Ammo

I'm gonna need a little more than that. Pulse Ammo is only one ingredient. Describe the entire process and I'll give it to you.

Pulse Ammo from the Energy Cannons on Elastoids,
Dragon Fangs from T-Rexaurs or Blue Dragons, and
Adamantine as a rare drop from the Adamantoise on the beaches near Dollet

done XD

Close, but you are forgetting something important. If no one else gets it I'll give it to you.

Umm... what did he forget? Are you looking for someone to say to teach Ifrit Ammo-RF and Diablos Mug?

Except now that I think about it, the only Elastoids on Disc one are in Laguna's dream, and that's before you can have Diablos to be able to Mug from them, right?

BUT Belhelmel has rare Laser Cannons that you can refine to Pulse Ammo...

Did I get it?

Using the Card Mod ability to refine cards into items needed for it's construction (the Minotaur card can be modified into 1 for 10 Adamantine), as well as/or using Tonberry GF's Level Up ability to get certain monsters at the required level for item drops (IE the 'Level Up' ability) on Blitz's near the Centra plains (Near the forest shaped like a Hammer I mainly found them, but also in the general forested area) for Laser Cannon/Energy Crystal drops (one Energy crystal can be refined into I think 10 Pulse Ammo, and a Laser cannon can be refined into 5 or so), Blue Drago/Hexadragon/Grendel for Dragon Fang drops.

Is he forgetting the amounts? You need 12 pulse ammo, 4 Dragon Fangs, and 1 adamantite. This means 3 Laser Cannons from Belhelmels on the plains near Galbadia (5 Pulse Ammo each). Dragons fangs are gotten from Grendels in the forest separating Timber from Galbadia at low levels (under 20 i think) and Adamantine is from the adamantoises north of Dollet. erm. High level ones I think, above 30?

Then you synth the weapon, of course. So you need 2000 gil.

Using the Card Mod ability to refine cards into items needed for it's construction (the Minotaur card can be modified into 1 for 10 Adamantine), as well as/or using Tonberry GF's Level Up ability to get certain monsters at the required level for item drops (IE the 'Level Up' ability) on Blitz's near the Centra plains (Near the forest shaped like a Hammer I mainly found them, but also in the general forested area) for Laser Cannon/Energy Crystal drops (one Energy crystal can be refined into I think 10 Pulse Ammo, and a Laser cannon can be refined into 5 or so), Blue Drago/Hexadragon/Grendel for Dragon Fang drops.

He said without card games.

L2READ

Actually I wasn't thinking about Belhelmels at all.

T-Rexaurs in Balamb Garden drop dragon fangs if they are lvl 1-20. So you have to get it from them. Grendels would also be on the table, however you need to be below lvl 20 for them to drop them. And that's not possible since the very moment you enter the only place they can be found on disc 1, the 2nd Laguna sequence initiates, for which you'll need to be at least lvl 30.


Except now that I think about it, the only Elastoids on Disc one are in Laguna's dream, and that's before you can have Diablos to be able to Mug from them, right?


Nope. Cid gives you the magic lamp once you leave Garden to go to Timber. Beat Diablos immediatly and have him start learning Mug. It will take a while but it is possible. After that you need to level up so that the Elastoids in the 2nd Laguna sequence are lvl 30 or higher, so you can steal laser cannons from them.

After that you can use Card mod to refine 10 adamantites from the Minotaur Card, when you get it after beating Brothers. By the time you reach Galbadia you'll have the Lionheart.

Ammounts weren't really the issue here. I would've given the question to anyone who described the process correctly.

This is just one way. Belhelmels/Grendels/Adamantoise would work too, I suppose, although I haven't tried.

What 7alentine was missing was the levels at which the monsters had to be to drop the specific items. Q-Tip Trepe mentioned the levels. So I think I'm gonna give it to him. Your question Q-Tip Trepe.


He said without card games.

I think Xiahou Dun missed the disc 1 part, not the without card games part. :D

He said without card games.

L2READ

... IDX also mentioned the used of the Card Mod ability,


Using the 'Card' ability, using the 'Card Mod' ability, using that one ability to refine ammo from items, and killing stuff to get the other stuff you need?

And yet it's me who gets the flame, wtf is this? L2READ Zak.


I think Xiahou Dun missed the disc 1 part, not the without card games part. :D

No, I didn't miss the disc 1 part. I got Lionheart on disc 1 via the method I said above, and I did that recently as I finished the PC version a few days ago.

Okay, first of all, I assumed "without the card game" to mean not playing the card game. And as Xiahou Dun pointed out, since IDX also mentioned Card Mod and nothing was said against it, I'm pretty sure that's what Smarty meant too.


And Xiahou Dun, sorry, but not sure what you mean. You mentioned using Tonberry's Level Up ability / visiting Centra region and you definitely can't do either on Disc 1.

As soon as my 16GB memory stick comes in, I was planning on getting Lionheart. And I thought I said steal stuff too but I didn't :(.

I would've gotten it with my very vague answer too.

And Xiahou Dun, sorry, but not sure what you mean. You mentioned using Tonberry's Level Up ability / visiting Centra region and you definitely can't do either on Disc 1.

I also said I did that on the PC version as well, but w/e I'm not gonna to add to this.

It's over with, so let's move on.

It is possible though through supernatural means. But we won't get into that :D.

It is possible though through supernatural means. But we won't get into that :D.

Using the Force? or the Schwartz?

What 7alentine was missing was the levels at which the monsters had to be to drop the specific items. Q-Tip Trepe mentioned the levels. So I think I'm gonna give it to him. Your question Q-Tip Trepe.


You're not giving it to me because i forgot the LEVELS? thats a bit harsh imo but go for it Q-Tip, you earned it.

It was a bit specific tbh. I'll do a question anyway since it probably won't get done otherwise :/

How many Tri-Faces (on average) would one have to Mug to accumulate enough Curse Spikes to make a Holy War? This is assuming the ability Rare Item is not equipped.

Rounded to the nearest integer.

I may be wrong here, but as far as I know Curse Spikes don't refine into an item to make a Holy War. They can be used for Quistis to learn LV?Death and with the ST Med-RF/Tool-RF/ST Mag-RF into Remedy/Dark Matter/10 Pain.

To create a Holy War, need 10 Holy War-trial's and used the Med LV Up, to get a Holy War. Or use the Card Mod ability and refine the Gilgamesh card to get 10 Holy Wars.

D:

Well, you can. You just need to remember what you refine Dark Matters into :3 You also need to remember Mug rates.

And I expect you all to use a calculator Dx

Does this math/stats question take into account the odds of whether or not you get 6 or 8 Curse Spikes from a single Tri-Face? Because I can't seem to find the probability factor of that.

Of course ;)

you would have to mug 142

Way off.

Alright. All I need to know is the probability percentage of getting 8 spikes vs. getting 6, and then I can figure it out. Not a single faq on Gamefaqs seems to have that information :/

D:

Well, you're definitely searching in the wrong place.

What kind of place would have something that wouldn't?

30

12,000

This math question is BULLSHIT!

THIS IS SHRINE! NOT SCHOOL!

The Final Fantasy VIII Official Strategy Guide by David Cassady, states that to create a Holy War by refining items, you need 10 Holy War-trials and the 'Med LV UP' ability to make one Holy War.

You better look again real closely because we don't want to be looking like bafoons again. You have read every possible...area that deals with obtaining/refining/making items?

Unless Q-Tip Trepe meant to refine them via the whole process of refinement from Curse Spike --> Dark Matter --> Shaman Stone --> Hero Trial --> Hero --> Holy War-trial --> Holy War, which is a long process. Need to have Doomtrain at 100 to change 10 Shaman Stones into 1 Hero Trial. So... 100 Curse Spikes to refine into one Dark Matter. 1 Dark Matter can be refined into a Shaman Stone. 10 Shaman Stones to refine into a Hero-trial. You then need 10 Hero-trials to refine into one Hero, then 10 of them to refine into 1 Holy War-trial then 10 of them to refine into a Holy War.

So, 1000 Curse Spikes to get 10 Shaman stones, and one Hero Trial. 10,000 Curse Spikes to get 10 Hero trials. 100,000 to get 10 Hero. 1,000,000 to get 10 Holy War-trial.

To get one Holy War... via this method, you'd need 10,000,000 Curse Spikes. Give or take.

But seriously, who'd take that route?

But you didn't answer the question. How many Tri-Faces would you need to mug?

You have read every possible...area

I smiled when I read that.

Hmm... a fuckin lot. That's also taking into account on sometimes you may not get anything, as there were sometimes I'd use Mug and got nothing (Though... that could be the result of my PC copy being screwed up). I'd guestimate at least double the amount needed to get a Holy War, that's taking into account of being able to mug at least one curse spike from a Tri-Face per battle and succeeding, while in another battle you use Mug, and get nothing.

Lol I didn't know what to call it and everything I came up with didn't sound right. So I pulled a Squall and said "whatever" to myself :P.

I'll post a guess anyway... 10,000,000 Tri-Faces mugged and getting a single Curse Spike successfully each time you Mug one (Yes, I know you can mug more than one at a time but w/e. If you can mug 10 from one, then it'd be like 1,000,000 Tri-Faces you have to Mug. So somewhere between 1,000,000 and 10,000,000 is my official guess).


Seriously though... who the fuck would spend all that time to do so, when there are other simpler and faster ways to get them?

Am I supposed to accept a range of >9000 as the answer? I mean, it's correct, but It really should be more specific...

You should give it to him anyways. Not only was it a ridiculous question, but he actually wasn't lazy about it and did the math. Not to mention he looked in the strategy guide again. Now if that's not dedication, then I don't know what is!

:l

bye

IDX you heart that kids' feelings!




/applaud

I do think it was a rediculous question, but I'm curious to hear the answer to...

Me too. And if anyone would get it eventually I'm sure XD would if he stuck to it.

As for breaking kids' feelings, then you should hear me on Live when some kid tries to sound tough :).

It was rather ridiculous. I suppose it would be nice to hear the answer, but in the meantime, let's just move on with Xiahou Dun's question, eh?

As for breaking kids' feelings, then you should hear me on Live when some kid tries to sound tough :).

The only thing I dislike about this is that you seem to be on the 360. Horrible.

Unless Live meant just online gaming (for the PS3 that is) ;)

But it is hilarious when you hear a good ole 'fuck you' from a kid who sounds about 8 years old. Makes me smile everytime!

The only thing I dislike about this is that you seem to be on the 360. Horrible.

Unless Live meant just online gaming (for the PS3 that is) ;)

But it is hilarious when you hear a good ole 'fuck you' from a kid who sounds about 8 years old. Makes me smile everytime!

Nothing wrong with the Xbox 360. Has some great titles, but I'm not gonna get caught up in the Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 debate (that's what started the whole 'thing' between myself and another member who I won't name).

Anywayz, my question:

Squall's initial SeeD rank is determined via his Judgement during the Fire Cavern Event and his Conduct in the Dollet Mission. To get the maximum 100 points for both events, how much 'Remaining Time' do you need for both?

I know it's under 7 seconds for the Fire Cavern. I thought it was a large amount of time for the Dollet mission? Whoever can get that part shall claim the question!

Edit: Off-Topic --I'm just more of a Sony fanboy. Plus, the controller never felt right for me on the Xbox, that plus all my friends played Halo so it just killed the Xbox for me.

isnt it 10 minutes or less for 100pts on the Dollet mission?

Seru_Kai is correct regarding the Fire Cavern event (0:00-0:07 to be precise), and for the Dollet mission, to get the maximum amount, 100pts, need to have 25:00+ remaining.

If you get to the beach with 20 Minutes remaining, you'll get 70pts 7alentine. Anywayz, Seru_Kai, as you got the Fire Cavern part right, you won the question. Next question to ask is yours.

Edit: (off topic response to Seru_Kai) That's ok, everyone has their opinion about which one they like the best. There's nothing on the PS3 which interests me, and as the Knights of the Old Republic games came out on the Xbox, that's what drew me to Microsoft's console lol

Sticking with the SeeD rankings, what are the ways your ranking can decrease?

It's a broad question, but provide as many specifics as you can.

If you are a shit player...

It is quite easy to lose rankings if you are say on A class.

Contributing factors are things like:

Letting your players die, not progressing the story quick enough and obvious things like doing poorly in the parts of the game which give you a time limit and shit

Fleeing battle also decreases your rank. Basically being slow, dying, sucking, getting hit a lot etc etc.

Whatever. I give up, I really don't know.

Hahaha yea, shit question really.

As far as I know, dying, being slow during timed events/storyline, fleeing from battle, making bad decisions involving dialogue could diminish the ranking.

I'll leave it open to whoever wants it.

ok i have a question..

Pretty extremely easy i think..

What is the easiest way to take advantage of limit breaks early in the game?? by early i mean the first disc.

You could use junctioning to purposefully put your health in the yellow 'critical' status, being able to use limit breaks freely.

I don't know if any form of aura is available in disc one.

exactly right... i used to refine tents into curaga's on disc one to take my health up to around the 3000 mark. then put myself purposefully in the yellow. Which is of no danger because you can easily survive. and destroy lives with constant limits

Oh yea, good times abusing that system.

I just woke up, and I certainly can't think of a good question to ask, so I'll leave it open.

I'll take it then:

Quote question:

In the orphanage Irvine mentions he has better memory than the rest of them because he has never used GF's before. Quistis responds to that saying what?

Hint: Anyone who wathced Spoony's review should know this.

Quistis: "Well fuck you Irvine, We have the power of gods at our hands at the loss of our memory! You couldn't even hit Edea when you had an open shot. The fact that she used her magic is irrelevant, you should have remembered that fact and used a bullet that could penetrate her magic shield. You are a douche bag."

Something along those lines

Looks like Cheema took my first guess, but I'll throw out another one.

I don't remember her exact words, but Quistis states that it must be a rumor spread by anti-GF activists because Headmaster Cid would never allow the use of something so dangerous.

First of all:

Quistis: "Well fuck you Irvine, We have the power of gods at our hands at the loss of our memory! You couldn't even hit Edea when you had an open shot. The fact that she used her magic is irrelevant, you should have remembered that fact and used a bullet that could penetrate her magic shield. You are a douche bag."

Something along those lines

This doesn't even come close, although it would be awesome if it did.

Looks like Cheema took my first guess, but I'll throw out another one.

I don't remember her exact words, but Quistis states that it must be a rumor spread by anti-GF activists because Headmaster Cid would never allow the use of something so dangerous.

Actually she said something about GF-critics not activists but close enough. Your go.

Man, I kinda remember that part now :O I'm gonna go with FF1WithAllThieves' answer (but if he's right give it to him not me).

edit: HAHA, what timing!

I must have a different version of the game

Alright, here it goes:

Name all of the areas that start out with the "random" rule. Note that I'm referring to the areas that people refer to when you challenge them to card games (i.e. Timber is part of Galbadia).

That start out with the random rule I only thought there were 1 or 2. My guesses would be Dollet and Fisherman's Horizon? I know it's easy to spread the rule, but I didn't think there were that many places that forced you to play it when you initially get there (without purposefully changing the rules.

I remember walking to Dollet early in the game to get them to drop that damn random rule.

As for the areas they refer to in those places, I have no idea. World Maps/Territories are not my speciality.

Dollet I know has it. Fisherman's Horizon I believe actually doesn't. I think there are two others and those are Centra region and Lunar Base.

Not all of the correct answers have been mentioned yet, and not every answer mentioned is correct; I won't tell you anything else in case someone knows the full answer.

Edit: I thought someone would know this one, but it's been a while now. If nobody gets it in 24 hours, I'll give it to Agent because he was closer.

Can we get the answer? I've gotten the urge to replay VIII solely to play the card game from the start.....but I've been able to keep that urge at bay so far.

Edit: Oops, didn't see the time of your edit at first! :D

I remember that Trabia has it.

Trabia, Dollet, Lunar, and Centra?

Hah, I'm remembering the places I tried to abolish it from...

EDIT: It's been well over 24 hours since you posted last... so if I'm right does Agent still get it?

EDIT: It's been well over 24 hours since you posted last... so if I'm right does Agent still get it?

Last edited by FF1WithAllThieves; Yesterday at 12:30 PM.

I missed that too, it's only been a few hours over that deadline. I don't remember playing too much in Trabia myself, but it does have a random rule, I remember having to get a specific card and being frustrated at the random rule...:(

Zak is correct. Agent had just missed Trabia. You can have it, Zak.

Yeah, go ahead and take it-- I never saw the edit and you definitely got it, so go ahead.

Alright...

In most games, "Blue Magic" is skills used by enemies and learned from them. But in this, Quistis's Blue Magic is simply from items and don't require encountering a monster with said attack. But, most of her Blue Magic is used by various enemies, but what I'm asking is, which one(s) aren't used by ANY enemies throughout the game? I'm not gonna say how many there are.

Get exactly all of them, no more, no less.

Also, just to clarify, "Lv?Death" I would obviously count any Lv # Death used by an enemy as that.

I can think of two:

Laser Eye - Funguar and Belhelmel do use similar attacks but they are tecnically nameless
Fire Breath - There are a lot of dragons and a lot of different breath attacks, but none are actually "Fire Breath"

Think that's all...

I think I'll give you this one!

Technically the answer I was looking for was only Fire Breath, because I did count Belhelmel's "Counter Laser Eye" as Laser Eye, because that's basically the same thing, almost, but that's arguable and you mentioned it anyway. What Funguar move are you thinking of?

Anyway, your question.

Now I think about it the Funguar just has a very generic looking laser attack, I think anyway, been a long time since my last playthrough. Belhelmel was the main one anyway. :p

Ok, this is probably an easy one... you're fighting a low level Wendigo. You draw and cast its only magic it holds on it. What is the next move it will use?

Is it that one where he throws you in the air?

The last response was on the 13th of this month, Meltigemini I think it's time you reveal if IDX got your question right or if he was incorrect and post the answer. Been long enough now.

So uh are we gonna keep this going?

I agree. If somebody's going to bother to ask a question, they need to stay current with the thread.

Sorry, been away a bit. Site was down when I tried to get here the other day.

The move I was thinking of was Power Bomb, which IDX did elude to, the magic you draw is Berserk and it always uses Power Bomb after that. Next question for IDX :)

Good. Bout time. I probably would've stated the name if I remembered, but I'm working my way there playing FFVIII on my PSP (my 16gig memory stick came in finally :D!). Just got done doing the Dollet mission.

Anyways, free question to whoever wants it until I play the game again and remember a good majority about it. Otherwise, my questions would be both silly and easy.

Ok IDX I'll take a shot:

What are the spells available to be drawn from Omega Weapon?

Meltdown
Ultima
Meteor
...and, uh...I dunno :(

Flare
Holy
Meteor
Ultima

FF1WithAllThieves is correct. Next question is yours.

I was thinking of putting down Holy but wasn't exactly sure >_<! But they were all guesses and I just figured they'd be some powerful spells :).

Which magic spell junctions best to the speed stat?

Haste? I think that's a little too obvious, but there isn't any other one I can think of that would do a better job. I kept Hatse junctioned to speed through the entire game.

I'm going to go with Triple. I seem to recall reading somewhere before (perhaps somewhere on here) that that actually does the best job of it, though I usually preferred to use Triple with something else.

Agent is correct. Triple junctions the best to speed, followed by Ultima, then Haste. Your go.

All right... what is the first known mention you can find in the game of the possibility that use of GF can lead to memory loss?

Isn't there a disclaimer about it in the study panel at the beginning?

Yep, nice little disclaimer they put in for themselves in there. Your go!

Okay.

When's the earliest access to Level 6 Boss Cards?

Meh, hopefully not too easy.

Ifrit's cave place has Bombs, which can be carded into Krystas.

Oh damn, I forgot to mention "from players"... but I guess I can give it to you since that's right.

Oopsie. Well, an easy one in return. Who's the only character in the game that you can actually win their Triple Triad card from?

That would be Edea, and to get her card you have to challenge her at the ruins of the Orphanage in disc 3.

See? Easy. Go ahead Enkidoh.

Okay:

What are the four unique magic spells that can appear on Selphie's Slots Limit Break (which you can't find anywhere else)?

The End
Full-Cure
Rapture
and uhhhhh I can't remember :p

Wall is the other.

Both correct! :D

Smarty got most of them, but Melti got the one he missed, so I'm going to award the next question to both of you. Whoever of you two posts first can have the next question. :)

Melti can have it. I'm having a hard time thinking of good trivia questions :(

Me too :(

Where do you fight a set battle (not a boss fight) but only if you haven't already encountered one of the monsters in that battle already before you reach the point where the battle is set? Bonus points if you name the monster though not necessary I guess :p

I'm gonna guess it's some kind of tutorial battle. Is it the one for Irvine's Limit Break on a Thrustaevis?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say in balamb gardens training area, and with a t-rexuar? That's that only battle I can think of that matches what you're describing ~_~

it's been ages since I played VIII, but i'm gonna binge out on it when it comes to Europe on the PSN.

Well, there really isn't a "set" battle with a T-Rexuar. He is a random encounter as far as I'm aware. I was going to say him too but I'm not so sure it is.

It is a tutorial battle yeah, though with Irvine if you don't use him when you first get him he'll just tell you about his limit break when you fight the Iguions (not the same enemy ;)) so I'm thinking of a different one.

You don't actually have to fight a T-Rexaur, if you take the left path in the Training Center you won't run into one.

i have absolutely no idea, but i'm very interested to find out.
I thought it could be the propogators on ragnarok because i know Rinoa learns Angel Wing. but i don't think any of those battles were tutorial ones. hmmm

Is it against a Bomb in the Fire Cavern during the initial exam at the start of the game? I seem to recall Quistis giving Squall advice during at least one battle in that area so I can't remember anymore. So it's probably wrong. :p

Yeah, Bomb is right. :) If you haven't already encountered any by the time you get to the end of the screen with the draw point, you get the set battle with two Bombs and two Red Bats. If you've already had the tutorial that battle isn't there.

Heh, and to think I totally fluked that. :p

Anyway, now for my question (it should be an easy one).

Name the 3 GF's that can be gained from the southern islands (Centra Ruins and nearby areas).

Odin
Tonberry
Cactuar?

Got it in one. :)

Odin and Tonberry from Centra Ruins and Cactaur from Cactaur Island (appropriately enough). Like I said, a real easy one. :D

Anyway, IDX got it. ^^

Do I get extra points if I say that the Cactuar Island is actually technically part of Esthar and not Centra, region-wise? Same with Kashkabald Desert, the other area where you can encounter Cactuars on the east part of the Centra Islands... if you go to the menu, it says "Esthar - Kashkabald Desert" and I THINK it might say "Esthar - Cactuar Island", but it certainly doesn't say Centra. Plus it's right off the coast of that desert that's part of Esthar, so it's safe to assume that this is too.

To be honest, it's been so long since I last played FFVIII that all I remembered about it was that Cactaur Island was 'in the south'. So, that's why I kind of grouped it in with Centra.

But anyway, good job picking that up. :D IDX still got the question though, so it's his go. :)

I wasn't sure about Cactuar which is why I put the ? next to it. But it was the only one I can think of around that area so I put it up anyways :D.

When the party has their first "Laguna dream", what does Squall say that he dreamed of?

Pretty easy if you ask me :)

A moron.

To be more precise, he dreamed that he 'was a moron'. Which is kind of redundant due to the fact that he already was a moron. ;)

/joke :p

A moron.
So he dreamed of a moron?

To be more precise, he dreamed that he 'was a moron'. Which is kind of redundant due to the fact that he already was a moron. ;)

/joke :p
I'm gonna have to give it to you.

Sorry, Smarty...



































...don't hurt me D:

No worries. That's what I meant but I guess Enkidoh was more precise. Besides I'm not itching to get a question anyway :)

Go ahead Enkidoh.


/joke

No joke. ;)

:p

Okay!

Besides demotion to lesser rank, what is the standard punishment for troop incompetence in the Galbadian Army? (Hint: Galbadian soldiers often whine and complain about it during the game)

They don't get paid for a (week? month? don't think it's ever stated) anyway they miss a paycheck.

They have to do push-ups?

Meltigemini got it. Basically, they lose a month's pay, which seems a bit harsh. One of the soldiers on the Presidential Train loses something like three months worth of pay in five minutes simply because his CO is in a bad mood.

Anyway, Melti was right, so go ahead when you're ready. :D

Keeping with the same theme, and because I can't think right now, what was that soldier on the presidential train going to spend his next pay on?

He wanted to buy his girlfriend a diamond ring and treat her to a romantic dinner to propose to her (in keeping with Valentine's Day ;)).

"No ring, now no candlelit dinner... I'm never gonna get married."

Your go :D

What is the only place (non dungeon/story area) in the world where you can get into random battles with Galbadian soldiers, even late in disc 3?

Timber?

Nope. Next guess. ;)

Dollet?

Correct!

Or, more specifically, the bridge leading from the Dollet town square to the Communication Tower - you can get into random battles with Galbadian Soldiers, although you can't go any further than the beginning of the next area after the bridge (a broken spider mech blocks the path up the mountainside beyond).

It's still fun to run around on the bridge to get into fights with them though, just to unleash Doomtrain on the poor unsuspecting fools. ;)

Anyway, IDX got it, so your go. :D

Sweet :D!

But I'm lazy and have to get ready for work so free question to whoever wants it :).

Okay.

If you miss certain GFs (generally ones that have to be drawn from bosses), they can be drawn a second time from the bosses in Ultimecia's Castle. What GFs' can be drawn and which bosses have them there?

I could name the GFs, but I have no idea which goes with which boss.

I could just answer by going to gamefaqs.com, but that's cheating! Mainly because I get all the GFs before reaching that point so I never had to draw them from those bosses. So naturally, I wouldn't know by memory.

Oh my goddess, I completely forgot about this thread!

As it's been over three weeks without any concrete guesses, I may as well wind this question up. For those who are wondering, these are the GFs that can be drawn from the bosses in Ultimecia's Castle and which bosses have them:

Siren - Tri-Point
Leviathan - Trauma
Pandemona - Red Giant
Carbuncle - Krysta
Cerberus - Gargantua
Alexander - Catoblepas
Eden - Tiamat

Anyway, I'm giving this away as a free question to whoever wants it. :)

That was definitely a lot, I don't recall ever having to draw them in the castle so I wouldn't know at all.

I guess I'll take the freebie-- when you arrive at Balamb Garden during the inter-Garden conflict, a member of the Garden Faculty asks Squall "Do you swear your allegiance to Garden Master NORG?" What are the two choices as to how to respond?

"Yes, for now", and "what's going on?" Something like that.

Close enough. It's actually "I guess for now" and "I don't get it," but seeing as nobody else was even attempting to answer, those are close enough. Go ahead with a question, if you want it.

We all know Squall has the highest natural hit% stat by far, so, just tell me simply who has the second-highest.

I'll probably take a wild guess here and say Irvine (I was going to say Seifer, but he's not in your party for very long). Otherwise, I have no idea.

It depends on the weapon. For instance, Squall always has 255%, but Selphie also has 255% once you get the Strange Vision. If you're talking about initial weapon hit-%, though, I have no clue.

Enkidoh is right, unless Selphie has the Strange Vision. In that case, Selphie wins, but otherwise, it goes to Irvine. So I'll leave it up to the honor system: if you feel your answer was correct enough for you to deserve it, post a question. 'Cause I think you probably both deserve it.

I can't think of anything at the moment, so Enkidoh can have it.

Heh, and I completely fluked that question. :p

Anyway (this should be nice and easy):

What is the special parameter of the Cactuar GF's '1000 Needles' attack?

I know, but I'm having a hard time trying to word it out. Which totally sucks.

Every 10 levels (Cactuar's level), the amount of damage it does increases by 1,000. So for level 30, it does 3,000, for level 6, it does 6,000, and for level 100, it does 100,000.

FF1 got it in one. :D Good job!

Post a question when you're ready to go. :)

For some reason, you made it seem rather easy to explain. When I was typing it just didn't really make sense on what I was trying to say :(.

So for level 30, it does 3,000, for level 6, it does 6,000, and for level 100, it does 100,000.

lol, 100,000 would be nice!

lol, 100,000 would be nice!

I'm good at math!

I know this is exactly like some of my past few questions, but it's the best I can come up with right now:

Which summon has the second-longest animation?

I'm gonna take a shot and say it's Diablos. Although I doubt it.

leviathan's is pretty long, him?

I'm going to take a stab and say Doomtrain, but if not, then probably Bahamut.

I'm gonna say Brothers, in case all the ones that were guessed are wrong...

In Length:

Eden
Pandemona
Brothers
Leviathan
Doomtrain
Diablos
Bahamut
Siren
Ifrit
Quezacotl
Shiva

I'm gonna say Alexander only b/c it hasn't been said yet.

Techchild is right, although I don't know how you'd know all of them in order from memory. I'll go ahead and give it to you and state a general reminder that you're not allowed to look up answers, as well as one for myself that you should respond to guesses within less than six days when you post a question. Sorry about that guys; your go, Techchild.

Techchild is right, although I don't know how you'd know all of them in order from memory. I'll go ahead and give it to you and state a general reminder that you're not allowed to look up answers, as well as one for myself that you should respond to guesses within less than six days when you post a question. Sorry about that guys; your go, Techchild.

I know them from order from spending 365 hours on one playthrough.. God I'm sad:(

On Topic: The weapon 'Lionheart' has been replicated in how many FF games SINCE FF8??

4?

Well, I know for a fact that it has appeared at least twice in FF games since FFVIII, in both FFX and FFXIII as swords for Tidus and Lightning, but I'm not sure if it's appeared in any other FF game other than them (Dissidia and the KH games don't count though because, well, they're spin-offs :p).

Something tells me that it has also appeared in FF Tactics Advance and FFTA2, but I have no idea for sure though.

This is easy, but it can be viewed as difficult if you don't remember:
Besides saying his name, what was Squall's first line in the actual game? If you want to do it from complete memory and are stumped, here's a useless hint: He was talking to Dr. Kadowaki regarding Seifer and their "morning training"

? ? ? ?

Lionheart is in:

FFX, as a weapon for Tidus which has the 'Double Overdrive' ability (I remember as I deliberately went to get that weapon in a playthrough a few months ago).

FFXIII, as a weapon for Lightning I believe. Obtained via a later chapter or something...

FFTA, as a weapon for Paladins. I think for two other job classes, but not sure...

FF Dissidia, appears as Squall's weapon during his EX mode. It increases attack by some obscene amount (50-70) as well as increases EX Force amount absorbed by 30% as well as giving Squall 'Sneak Attack'.

Side note: I was told it's appeared twice in the Kingdom Hearts series. In the first as 'Lionheart', and in the second under the name of 'Sleeping Lion'. Don't know how accurate that is though as I distrust the source (my cousin.).

So in answer to your question, 4 would suffice, but if you count the two times it can appear in Dissidia, 'Lionheart' has been replicated 5 times in 4 FF games since FFVIII.

@Neji666:

Before you can ask a question, you have to answer correctly the last question asked and wait for that person to say if you were correct and can post a answer.

This is easy, but it can be viewed as difficult if you don't remember:
Besides saying his name, what was Squall's first line in the actual game? If you want to do it from complete memory and are stumped, here's a useless hint: He was talking to Dr. Kadowaki regarding Seifer and their "morning training"

? ? ? ?

lol

Lionheart is in:

FFX, as a weapon for Tidus which has the 'Double Overdrive' ability (I remember as I deliberately went to get that weapon in a playthrough a few months ago).

FFXIII, as a weapon for Lightning I believe. Obtained via a later chapter or something...

FFTA, as a weapon for Paladins. I think for two other job classes, but not sure...

FF Dissidia, appears as Squall's weapon during his EX mode. It increases attack by some obscene amount (50-70) as well as increases EX Force amount absorbed by 30% as well as giving Squall 'Sneak Attack'.

Side note: I was told it's appeared twice in the Kingdom Hearts series. In the first as 'Lionheart', and in the second under the name of 'Sleeping Lion'. Don't know how accurate that is though as I distrust the source (my cousin.).

So in answer to your question, 4 would suffice, but if you count the two times it can appear in Dissidia, 'Lionheart' has been replicated 5 times in 4 FF games since FFVIII.

@Neji666:

Before you can ask a question, you have to answer correctly the last question asked and wait for that person to say if you were correct and can post a answer.

Spot on, I'm quite impressed. your go..

It's after 1:30am where I am, and I can't formulate a question to ask at this time, so I'll pass it on to whoever posts a question.

Ok, I got it, thanks for pointing out my noobish behavior, Death's Head.

Okay then, if no one wants to post a question, I'll ask one. :)

As we all know, the gunblade weapon type first appeared in FFVIII as Squall and Seifer's weapons. But, how many other Square Enix games have featured gunblades since?

Gunblades have appeared in the following Square Enix games:

Crisis Core
Dirge of Cerberus
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIII
Dissidia Final Fantasy
Parasite Eve II
as well as appearing in Final Fantasy VII Advent Children, used by Yazoo and Loz (Where did SE get the names from...)

Side note: They've also appeared in World of Warcraft as well, and Rinoa wielded one in Dead Fantasy called something Star... I think.

You got it, although I wasn't really looking for the 'non Square' titles. ;)

Anyway, it's your question DH. :D

Final Fantasy XII had gunblades? I don't remember anything like that. Sure it had guns, and normal blades but not the mix. Is it just me?

Gilgamesh in FFXII has a Revolver Gunblade amongst his weapons, with a chocobo imprinted on the blade (whereas Squall's had Griever). There's also the Ras Algethi, which looks similar to the Lionheart. I think there's another gunblade in FFXII, but the name eludes me at this time.

Anyway... my question is this:

Irvine Kinneas's birthday commonly falls on the same date as which American Holiday?

Gilgamesh in FFXII has a Revolver Gunblade amongst his weapons, with a chocobo imprinted on the blade (whereas Squall's had Griever). There's also the Ras Algethi, which looks similar to the Lionheart. I think there's another gunblade in FFXII, but the name eludes me at this time.

Anyway... my question is this:

Irvine Kinneas's birthday commonly falls on the same date as which American Holiday?

4th July I think..

Given that he said it "commonly falls," I'm thinking that it's one of those holidays where the actual date of the holiday changes from year to year because it falls on a particular day of the week instead. So I'm just going to take a guess and say Thanksgiving.

Agent0042 is correct. Irvine's birthdate is the 24th of November and is a common date on which Thanksgiving falls. Zell Dincht also has a birthday on a holiday, March 17, St Patrick's Day.

Next question is yours Agent0042

Okay, let's try this-- what three things are specifically prohibited in Balamb Garden classrooms, according to the Facility Rules in the study panel?

Okay, let's try this-- what three things are specifically prohibited in Balamb Garden classrooms, according to the Facility Rules in the study panel?

Hmmm, well I know for sure there can't be any spell casting. The other two...? Fighting with your weapons maybe?

No spell casting (not using magic) and no weapons are correct. There's one other.

Okay, the last thing must be eating in there or chewing bubble gum. : )

Yeah, the last one is "no food," so you got it. Your go.

Okay, I'll try to pick a good one. ;)

What is the name of the shop in Esthar that references another Final Fantasy?


Maybe this one is too easy...: )