Are we excluding when damage taken is 0?

I was going to guess ultima!

nah damage= 0 does not count

major hint: it's something positive.

OOOOH you meant affects you! I thought you meant affects the enemy, I was like, "I didn't know invincibility had an affect on any attack connecting". But if it's you I'm gonna have to say Aura.

Oh sorry guys if u thought my question was vague...terribly sorry. Aura is incorrect.Sorry.

Full Heal?

Just to clarify, you did mean "invincible," right? Your original question says "invisible," which I don't believe is even a status in this game.

Something I also pondered Agent. Figures really.

Full Cure is what I meant lol.

I'm going to guess 'Haste' magic.

YAY!!!!! IDX Rider got it.

Again i apologize about the vagueness within my question. Next time ill do a better job.

Sweet! You saying it was a good thing made it seem obvious :).

Free question to whoever claims it first.

Okay i'll take it. might be easy and its kind of a riddle.

Their is one place Squall never goes to and the storyline never guides him their for any reason, whilst their there is no story available to you or special things like Bahamut, where is it?
(Not chocobo forest or weapons facility)

Is it the place where Laguna's statue is?

nope coz that does have a purpose, you get the random GF phoenix. like i said when squall goes to this place it has no story for him.

I'd say there are any of a number of places in the game that seem to have no purpose, but is it Trabia Canyon-- the place where Laguna and Kiros (and in some cases Ward as well) were at with the play? I know that you can go back there, but there's nothing to do there.

okay that one isnt what i was getting at but ur on the right track

Shumi Village?

Is it the basement of Dr. Odine's laboratory?

I was going to say Julia's room.

There are quite a few of these.

Yeah, I'm tossing this-- this question is stupid. Free question.

*sighs*

Its winhill. Squall technically never went their. and never has to go again ever for no reason whatsoever.

You said no special things. Can't you get a Phoenix Pinion there?

Or are you making it a sliding scale based on some obscure criteria as to what is special and what isn't ;)

I thought Trabia Canyon was a better answer. Free question.

Hey there is a side quest in winhill in which you get a holy stone...so u cant count as insignificant.

Anyways..next question.

During the 2004 Olympics, one of the American synchronised swimming teams used a score of music from Final Fantasy VIII. What was it?

OUCH!! This is hard.

Im gonna guess eyes on me...cuz once i heard a piano player play it in an american shop once.

Incorrect.

I have no idea, but I'm going to guess "The Landing."

"Liberi Fatali" was played during the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens during the women's synchronized swimming event.

Correct Kratos, your turn.

Dagnab, "Liberi Fatali" was actually going to be my next guess.

That was going to be my first guess because I think it's more popular than Eyes On Me.

Name the only enemy that can be taken out in one blow. (Hint) Its encountered super early in the game.

What? Can't all enemies?

Er, yeah, Zantetsuken, Death or even normal physical attack. Kratos, you'd better explain what you're on about quickly or this is going to get tossed to a free question.

Bite Bug?

Please, no answers until we get a clarification on just what exactly is meant by this question.

Im asking about a certain monster that has 2 digit hp that can be killed in one blow.

Well, then your question is disqualified since there's certainly more than one enemy that has two digit HP at its lowest level. And you can't just expect people to make random guesses, that's moronic.


Free question to anyone that wants one.

Isnt the answer Red Bat cuz its so easy to kill even at the beginning with no training.

It doesn't matter what the answer is for the reason I already stated. One other good example is Buel.

I was thinking PuPu - didn't the little fella have a ridiculously low amount of HP at any level?

Anyway, moving swiftly on.

In the magazine 'Occult Fan I', what was the old man making a fence with?

Okay, here's a kind of easy one. Well, to be fair, no looking at any FAQs.

Some GF's you may obtain by fighting them, while some GF's you may obtain by drawing from bosses, and some you may get by doing niether and something miscellaneous (Doomtrain).

But what's the one GF that you may do both to acquire? (by both I mean either since you only really need to do one). As in, there exists a boss fight with this GF itself, and there exists a boss that carries it to Draw.

The answer is Cerberus. You also missed my question.

Jarosik the answer to yours is 'Steel Pipes'.

Correct ;)

Okay i cant think of anything ATM...So free question i guess?? Wait is it even my right to declare that?

Zak or yourself. Agent is the authority on this usually, so hopefully he will be about at some point.

One would think that it would go to the person who answered the RIGHTFUL question master. And because Jarosik was the question master, then it's up to the person who answered his question to make one of their own or make it into a free question.

Right, Jarosik's question was asked first and was answered correctly by Shadow mage. Shadow mage declared a free question, so there you have it. Free question to anyone that wants one.

This one isn't confusing.

What are the two limit breaks Seifer uses during the final fight with him? (one depends on if u got a certain GF)

I know one of them is that Bloodfest one. And I heard a few years ago that it's Zantetsuken something. It adds another character at the end of Zantetsuken; but because I can't read Japanese, I have no idea what it says...

you pretty much got it Bloodfest and Zantetsuken Reverse

I remember it was Zantetsuken-zen or something weird.

Anyways, here's my question.

How many outfits does Squall wear throughout the game? It's an easy one and I can't think of anything that get people scratching their heads.

3?

Emo
SeeD cadet for the assault on Dollet
Dress formals for the ball.

Wrong.

Try again.

4

Emo
SeeD cadet for the assault on Dollet
Dress formals for the ball
Spacesuit

Wrong again.

5

Emo
SeeD cadet for the assault on Dollet
Dress formals for the ball
Spacesuit
Childhood clothes

Correct!

I thought it would've been answered the first time. Your turn :).

not one for making questions, free to who wants it.

All right, I'll take it then...

A female cadet at Trabia Garden expressed disbelief that the sleeping man in the garage told her... what?

OH...omg i kinda remember sumthing like this......was it cuz hes said that he got ranked up in a dream....this is all i can remember.

Yeah, that's good enough. She asked him what he was so happy about and he told her that he went up 1 rank in his dream. Your question, if you want it.

Yay! I knew talking to random people in the game would help me eventually.

Anyway, My Question(not THAT hard): During the Laguna scene where Laguna and Kiros have to fight a Ruby Dragon, Ward can be present. What can you do beforehand to guarantee that Ward will appear in the scene?

You have to avoid obtaining a specific issue of Timber Maniacs? Erm-- do I have to say where it's located, because I always forget that. Though I think it's the one in the Shumi Village hotel. If you view it from the computer, Selphie comments that she wonders why Ward isn't in the picture.

Yay thats right Agent0042....didnt i say it wasnt hard :)

All right, this shouldn't be too rough... how many SeeD members accompany the cadets on the training mission in Dollet?

4, two in the bar, one down the road from the bar and Quistis.

Aren't you forgetting Xu?

Sorry, not correct.

thats a bit of a dodgey question, u seen how many ships their were on that cutscene?
Theirs a few blocking the road (i think) 2 in the bar, theirs also (when u run away) 2 more. erm damn, uv lost me.......
coz technically ur asking about seed members, people already initiated into seed and everyone on that mission is a cadet.
So...... Xu and Quistis. 2 members.

It's not a dodgy question-- one of the characters specifically states "You will be accompanied by # SeeD members. Should you fail, those members will get the job done. They always do." It is that number I am looking for and no other will do.


And no, 2 isn't anywhere close to correct.

20?

No, not 20.

Is it 12?

10?

Sorry, neither correct.

I'm going to say 6. There is a seed assigned to each task force, and I believe there were four of them. So, that's 4 SeeDs, plus Quistis and Xu, which would make a total of 6. Except that Seifer's team didn't have one, so scratch that.

5?

No. And I'm off-Shrine for right now. I'll be back sometime later today and check again...

Not ten? 9 then.

Damn i was gonna say nine as well. O well you got it first.

Yes, exactly! Cid himself says that 9 SeeD members will accompany the candidates on the mission and that they'll get the job done if needed. They always do. All this stuff about trying to count up who was with each group, I don't know. Cid coulda very well pulled that number out of his ass, but it's what he said, so it's what we have to go with. Your question if you want it, Zak.

i havent played ff8 since my ps2 decided it wouldnt let me play ps1 games or dvds anymore, no need to rip my head off. I remember things that matter.

Well, no need to rip my head off then either. Isn't sorta on you if you come in and say that someone's posting a "dodgy question" when really you have no idea what you're talking about because you haven't played the game in ages?

Girls, please. Would someone post a question?

Well we're currently waiting on Zak. Agent0042...should someone else post a question or should we keep waiting?

We should wait. For one thing, it's the weekend, for another, it's only been a little less than 24 hours since I said Zak was correct.

I give up... can't really think of one, but... okay, what two enemies in the game can use Aura on themselves and what does it do?

Aura allows the mechanical monster GIM52A to use the Blue Magic Ray-Bomb and allows Raijin to use Raijin Special.

1)Galbadia Commander
2)Fujin

Okay.. yep, your go!

What is Ultimecia's ultimate attack and how does she attain it?

Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of "ultimate attack," but if you mean Apocalypse magic, she draws it from part of her own final form.

I think it's Hell's Judgment, considering it depletes your HP to 1. And she obtains it...through time? Or she just does it because she already has it.

That's my guess.

The question is kind of vague but by 'ultimate attack' i suppose hes talking about an ability she uses as her final move in attempt to destroy you. In this case it would we Apocalypse as mentioned by Agent0042. If the question didnt say "how does she attain it", I would've thought it was somthing else.

How much damage would that do? She never used it on me. And it always did less than 9999 when I used it an any creature (when my characters all maxed out).

It's useless compared to Hell's Judgement and possibly Great Attractor. The thing is they couldn't make it too powerful because you can use it yourself so it would've made the battle way easier and would've provided an easy way out if it was shockingly powerful.

Great Attractor could easily be the correct answer. The only reason I didn't think it was Hell's Judgment was because of the bit about "how does she attain it?" I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

Yea. Its a major give away. But if he didnt add that bit init would.ve been too vague and just another meaningless question(But not in a bad way)

I think it's time to put a new rule in place: Your question cannot be vague. I repeat your question cannot be vague. You're entitled to make a mistake, such as I did before, when I asked about how it was possible to get a Game Over with Phoenix and it turned out there was more than one correct answer. But terms such as "ultimate attack" and "taken out in one blow" are obviously vague and therefore not valid. In fact, I think both of these have been posted by Kratos. Kratos, we're going to have to disqualify you from questioning if you don't start posting better quality questions.

It was apocalyse and it was attained from her mind.

Right, yeah, from her mind. Well, I guess that means it's my question, then.


Okays...


This should be easy. What were the two things that the Galbadian Soldier on the train wanted to give to his girlfriend and felt that he had lost following the fiasco that occurred?

!!! I swear I was gonna ask about that.

I'd answer, but unfortunately I can't think of any more questions at the moment... guess I'll stop participating until I come up with new ideas.

Never heard of Great Attractor either.

What's that do?

EDIT: Sorry, the link brought me to the previous page. Ignore plz.

Umm I know he wanted to buy her a ring. Was the other one flowers.

Nope, 'fraid not. And I need both to award it as a correct answer.

OH i remember now. It was a ring and the other was a special dinner(I think).

Yeah, that's the one. Your question, if you want it.

Uhh okay. This one's gonna be strange.

Ultimately, whose actions made the Squall and Co. end up in Desert Prison?

I'm not sure I understand what the answer you're looking for is. Who orchestrated the actions, or who executed them... it really is a debatable question. Unless for some reason the answer you're looking for cannot be argued.

Okay ill try and re-phrase.

Who actually is responsible for making Squall & Co. end up in Desert Prison?

Meaning that a person(or people) acted/decided upon something and the party ends up in Desert Prsion.

The creators of the game because ultimately, there is no way of getting around going there?

In terms of the game story and characters.

HINT: One NPC in the game actually mentions it directly.

Edea Kramer, sent them to the prison to protect them from her, should Ultimecia take over her body again.

ooooh close but it wasnt Edea Kramer.

NORG?

Seifer?

Rinoa's father, General Caraway?

Martine?

You know what. I'll actually accept NORG cuz its quite close. This is the dialogue said.

Garden Faculty 2: The sorceress retaliated. Just as we suspected. No
doubt, it was the sorceress who ordered the missile attacks. Something
must be done to calm the sorceress' anger. In order to do so, we needed
to hand over those involved in the assassination to the sorceress. We
had to show Balamb Garden's sincerity.

Im accepting NORG cuz he was one major component of garden.

So FF1WithAllThieves got it

Lame

Aww dont be like that. Its just a random question that popped into my head when I was struggling to come up with one.

Irritating that the question had no fixed answer. Not trying to police things here as Agent does a splendid job otherwise, but consider for everyone taking part, to be competing with open ended questions is annoying to say the least.


You know what. I'll actually accept NORG cuz its quite close.

Okay sorry.
*gulp* i wonder what Agent will say now.

*Breaks into song*

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!

The question was a bit vague, but since you accepted NORG, I don't think it was too unfair. Anyway:

Which Triple Triad card refines the least efficiently; that is, it takes the greatest number of cards to refine into 1 item?

Hmm... is it the Tri-Point card?

Creeps!

Or was it the item they drop? Either way, you need 100 of whichever item it is to get just one Dark Matter. If not 100, then just basically a shitload.

Right?

Er-- that was the item they drop, Curse Spike.

Oh, right.

Nvm then. I'm going to guess Bite Bug then if Creeps isn't the right one.

I'm pretty sure Agent got it anyway.

Yeah it is the Tri-Point. You need 40 for one rocket engine(or was it jet engine)

I never refined cards that much... Maybe I will next time.

I refined the Bahamut card for holy wars, I think it is. And, I was able to win it back from the Card Queen or one of the CC members on the Ragnarok. Totally weird, but MUCH APPRECIATED!

Doesn't the Bahamut card refine into 100 Megalixirs?

Not that that's not better than Holy Wars... well, 10 Holy Wars. Don't think anything refines to 100 of them... something does for 10 at most.

Well, whatever. It was something that I used in the Omega Weapon fight.

I remember I managed to beat Omega Weapon without using Holy Wars. It was fucking hell!

All right, normally I like to wait for the questioner to confirm the correct answer, but everyone seems to agree that I was correct, so...

How about this? What are the colors of all the rocks on Esthar-Mordred Plains, some of which talk nonsense or say the opposite of what they mean?


Oh-- and I beat Omega Weapon recently without Holy Wars too. Squall ---> Renzokuken / Lionheart, Zell ---> Duel "Armageddon Fist", Irvine ----> Shot. Managed to defeat him before he even had a chance to execute Terra Break.

The rocks are red.

No, there's more than that...

All right, normally I like to wait for the questioner to confirm the correct answer, but everyone seems to agree that I was correct, so...


Yeah, you're right. Sorry for not responding more quickly; I'm still jetlagged from studying abroad in Italy.

How about this? What are the colors of all the rocks on Esthar-Mordred Plains, some of which talk nonsense or say the opposite of what they mean?


Oh-- and I beat Omega Weapon recently without Holy Wars too. Squall ---> Renzokuken / Lionheart, Zell ---> Duel "Armageddon Fist", Irvine ----> Shot. Managed to defeat him before he even had a chance to execute Terra Break.
He used Terra Break all right, but Rinoa managed to pull off Invincible Moon as her first limit :D.

As for the question, I'm going to guess red, purple/blue, green, orange, and yellow.

Sorry, not correct.

Meh, it was worth a try.

Red, blue, yellow & beige

Two out of four correct.

Red, Blue,Black, White

Completely correct on all four!

by the by, I'm pretty sure it's Gilgamesh that refines to Holy Wars, that you can get back from Xu on the Ragnarok.

Lol Okay! Can't think of anything....so free question whoever wants.

All right, I'll have a go at this.

Name at least two battles where having a permanent character take experience points is absolutely unavoidable.

Um... all the Balamb faculty members when the garden's in chaos?

I'm going to assume when Seifer and Edea are in your party?

For some reason, I have a hard time trying to figure out what exactly you're asking. The main character pretty much gains EXP in any battle outside of the boss battles.

Um... all the Balamb faculty members when the garden's in chaos?

No, in my game those were EXP-free battles. Edit: Those monsters can all be carded, anyway (except for the Raldos in the Granaldo battle, but that battle can be avoided entirely by choosing "Let them handle it").


I'm going to assume when Seifer and Edea are in your party?

For some reason, I have a hard time trying to figure out what exactly you're asking. The main character pretty much gains EXP in any battle outside of the boss battles.

Let me expand upon my question. In a no-level-up game, it's possible to avoid EXP almost entirely by gaining the Card ability only through AP given in boss battles, and then continue through the game by carding all monsters found in random encounters (AP is awarded after carding enemies, but not EXP). Alternatively, if you inflict petrification on an enemy, they will not give EXP either. Some battles that give EXP are mandatory, and you can't card or petrify the enemies, for instance, during the Seed mission in Dollet; however, you can give all the EXP gained to Seifer, and keep none for Squall and Zell, by killing Squall and Zell. So my question is, where are there two mandatory battles that give EXP where you can't card or petrify the enemies and you don't have a non-permanent member to take the EXP?

I understood the question but I thought those battles give you EXP since they include normal monsters. Are the Paratroopers one, since they're un-Card-able?

No, because they can be petrified, which also won't give EXP.

- Battle with Estharian soldiers (Laguna dream world)
- Battle with GIM52As-- the battle at the end of the Missile Base.


Sketchy on the first, pretty sure about the second.

Aren't GIM52As Cardable? I'm pretty sure there's a card of them...

The soldiers in the missle base that recognize your wrong salute are one battle. If Agent has the other half, give it to him.

the purple robots? they dont have a card. I'm pretty sure.

-GIM52A's has been mentioned
-What about the blue Galbadian soldiers you have to fight during the Dollet Mission.

Agent, sorry, but wrong on both. The Esthar soldiers I assume you are talking about (correct me if I'm wrong, I think you were talking about the battles in Lunatic Pandora) are petrifiable. Also, the battle with the Elite Soldier and GIM52As won't award any EXP since it's a boss battle. Furthermore, the Elite Soldier (and, I believe, the GIM52As too) can be petrified, although neither can be carded.

Shadow mage, the Galbadian soldiers in the Dollet mission were mentioned in my clarification (you can end up giving all the EXP to Seifer).

FF1WithAllThieves has got one of the battles right so far.

The battles before you get the Card Mod ability or the Break spell?

Considering Card Mod doesn't have any effect on enemies, no. ;)

ftr, the battles before getting the Card ability can all be avoided as well.

Agent, sorry, but wrong on both. The Esthar soldiers I assume you are talking about (correct me if I'm wrong, I think you were talking about the battles in Lunatic Pandora) are petrifiable. Also, the battle with the Elite Soldier and GIM52As won't award any EXP since it's a boss battle. Furthermore, the Elite Soldier (and, I believe, the GIM52As too) can be petrified, although neither can be carded.

Shadow mage, the Galbadian soldiers in the Dollet mission were mentioned in my clarification (you can end up giving all the EXP to Seifer).

FF1WithAllThieves has got one of the battles right so far.

Let's see though. The only accesses to Break are:

-One Draw point in the game on Lunatic Pandora AFTER Seifer, so Disc 4.
-The only monsters that have it as a "Low Level Drawable Magic" are Imps, which you don't find until Disc 3, and Iguions, which you get near the end of the first disc (so you better prolong the battle and stock them up).
-Refining Cockatrice Pinions... which I THINK you can get from Cockatrices somehow without getting EXP, maybe stealing or their card... but does Petrifying give drops? Well, regardless, you need Diablos' ST Mag RF to do that, so you must have Diablos.
-Selphie's Limit Break. This is the usual way to rely on it.

But during the Laguna dream sequence, you obviously haven't been to that part of LP, you haven't fought Iguions or Imps, and I'm pretty sure you don't have Diablos, and Selphie is Kiros so you can't use her limit break. So therefore they're unpetrifyable, the soldiers.

Okay, I know there's an FAQ that discusses this matter over at GameFAQs. I'm going to sort to the bottom of this... Although as for refining via Cockatrice Pinion, I think you're forgetting about Triple Triad. Oh, and Diablos is obtainable just before setting off for the first SeeD mission.



Okay... guide confirms that the Missile Base soldiers are a correct answer.


In that case, how about one of the battles during the final Laguna dream sequence in the prison?

The first battle at Ultamecia's castle is the other one?

I think not... bosses don't give EXP.

Right. I never thought they were considered as boss battles.

I'm going to make a final guess: in the prison again right after you get your weapons back.

[...]how about one of the battles during the final Laguna dream sequence in the prison?

Exactamundo. Actually, both of those battles must be ended with kills seeing as the cyborg soldiers can't be petrified or carded, the battle can't be escaped and it's not a boss fight. The mandatory battle with the cyborg soldiers in LP (the one that ends with the move that brings Ward's and Kiros's HP to 1) counts as a boss battle. As far as I am aware, these two plus the battle at the Missile Base are the ONLY battles in the game that require you to get EXP.

Good job Agent, it's your turn now.

Zak, as resourceful as your argument was, the no-level-up game almost requires a crap-load of hours playing cards to get magic like Meltdown, Break, Quake, Pain, and third-level elemental magic all extremely early on.

If anyone's interested, I should point out that the mandatory battles that award EXP that can also be avoided include the battles at Balamb Garden in the first half of Disc 2 (by carding), the Ruby Dragon at the beginning of Disc 3 (by carding), the Ruby Dragons in the fight with Bahamut by carding (although those are not really mandatory), the battles with Dollet soldiers (by giving EXP to Seifer), and all human enemies afterward can be petrified (for instance, the Esthar soldiers in the Laguna sequence in LP, the guards in the Dollet prison, the first battle with BGH251F2, the paratroopers at the end of Disc 2, etc.).

FF1WithAllThieves got a right answer first-- it's his if he wants it.

Sorry, right, I don't know what I was thinking. FF1WithAllThieves, it's your turn if you want.

I'm pretty sure you can refine break from softs, which, you know, you can buy.

Anyway, I guess I'll come up with a question, then:

What is the only life-threatening (time runs out = game over) time limit in the game which you can reset without restarting the game or getting a game over?

Is it when Squall and co. are undoing the train cars when they're trying to kidnap the President of Deling (which ended up being an impostor that could be killed easily) as a mission due to Rinoa requesting help from SeeD that Cid said she can use??

Nope, not that one. If I wasn't clear about this, completing whatever you have a time limit for doing and starting a new timer doesn't count.

"Rinoa was lost in space... forever."

Try again?

Nope, not that one. If I wasn't clear about this, completing whatever you have a time limit for doing and starting a new timer doesn't count.
You weren't. But it would still fulfill the requirements considering it can be "restarted" without a game over or restarting the game and it would be game over if it ran out.

Ugh, this question seems to be difficult to clarify. By "life-threatening" I meant that you can't simply restart the mini-game if time runs out.

So then my answer isn't correct? It's not the outer space sequence? Save Rinoa?

Well, you can't restart the timer without losing it or restarting the game, right? It definitely isn't what I was looking for.

Is it the Missile Base mission?

Nope, it's a game over if you run out of time, and you can't reset the clock while it's running.

Thinking... aha-- duh. Very first mission with Squall and Quistis, right? Retrieve GF Ifrit.

That was gonna be my next guess. I never ran out of time though but I couldn't think of anything else.

BTW, on the train sequence, if you let one of the guards see you and choose "Ah...it's nothing" or whatever it is, it practically restarts the timer and you don't get a Game Over either.

I don't think you can reset that, once you're in, you're in... assuming I understand the question correctly.

So is it getting Odin? I know that Zantetsuken is used when the timer runs out, and it's a place you can leave while the timer is going, so it fulfills those two requirements. Though I've never seen what happens when the timer runs out before you get into the battle, so... kinda a loose end there I guess. Unless the Zantetsuken making it at least half "life-threatening" qualifies...

Zak got it, it's Odin's tower. In that one, there's a timer as soon as you enter, but if you leave before you fight Odin, he gets pissed off and yells "DISHONOURABLE WRETCH!" at you. When you re-enter, the timer will have reset, and it will be as though you were there for the first time.

Okay... this might be easy but I noticed that a lot of people actually do not know this:

What is Eden supposed to be?

I have heard different ideas/suggestions, but there is a specific answer I'm looking for which I think you would agree makes the most sense and was indeed the intention.

Ive heard its meant to be representation of The Garden Of Eden. Now that I think about it. The garden here could reference to one of the gardens in the game. Maybe its supposed to be a futuristic garden. Anyway sorry my guess is that it's Garden Of Eden.

You got it! Hah, everyone I've run into always acts so surprised when I tell them that. I have mentioned it on this board before a while ago and got a bunch of "oh wow, I never noticed that".

But yeah, to be more specific, the answer I was looking for was that, because in the VIII universe, the places where SeeDs and soldiers and whatnot train, are big round field/buildings called "Gardens", and the GF Eden itself does look a lot like a giant "Garden" by that definition, got the round shape and other "Garden"-like features, hence the name Eden.

So not exactly THE Garden of Eden, but the GARDEN of Eden, like Balamb, Trabia, Galbadia, etc.

Anyway, your go, Shadow.

The game's most poweful GF is called Eden. This is actually the name of the paradise, "Garden of Eden" (Hebrew "Gan Eden"), from where Adam and Eve were expelled, according to the first book of Moses from the Old Testament. Why is the most powerful GF a garden? Because the universities where the heroes of the game study and train are called gardens. It is logical the most powerful garden is also the most powerful weapon.

Well Explained Zak and Jarosik.

This queston is potentially easy:
What three monsters does are not affected by Blue Magic Degenerator?

Grats, Vysages and... I think Forbiddens?

Oooh 2 of them are right. However one is wrong.

He's probably missing Tonberry.

Yeah Ionic Warrior You got it.

Umm Zak or Ionic Warrior who wants. I think Zak should take it because he listed more monsters.

If neither Zak or Ionic Warrior takes it within the next 24 hours, it's open to whoever wants it.

I can't think of a question... but which one of mine was wrong?

Forbidden.

okay, i got an easy one, how many griever items does squall usually wear?

one..just his ring.

2 the ring, and his pendant on his gunblade.

sorry, no and no. I honestly expected it to be done in 1 guess.

Two -- his necklace and his ring.

again, no, but so close. i honestly wonder if you people just toy around with the obvious questions.....

What do you mean? The pendant on his necklace is reaver, as well as the pendant on his sword. I'm looking at a pic of them right now. Unless we're talking about his seed uniform, in which case it's 0, because he doewn't wear any of that.

Umm what about his Gunblade case. I think i recall seeing on it Griever's symbol.

sorry, the answer is 3.
The ring, the necklace and the sword pendant hanging from the handle.
thought that one was fairly simple. funny thing is, between you, you got em all, u just kept saying 2.
anyone who wants to take it, take it.

Okay I got one. What final weapon(s) is/are impossible to get on Disc 1?

Note: Seeing as there are six and you can just say all six of them, I'm not gonna wait for all of them to be mentioned, as most usually do for "list" questions. Instead, I'll wait for a post that includes all of them and only them, no more and no less. So, if you guess some along with others that aren't it, then I'll just say wrong. I won't even say "X of those are right".

(Two guesses here)
Isn't it them all because it's impossible to obtain any of the final weapon magazines on disk 1?
March, April and May are the only ones you can get on the first disk.
If your going to be really wide about this then here goes, if my memory is correct it is:

Lionheart, Ehrgeiz, Strange vision, Save the Queen, ermmm.....shooting star (i think) And Irvines is......is....Exeter.

OR

Is it just the Exeter because moon stone cant be refined by card mod or done by GF abilities?

Okay, since you split the guesses so separately, I'll give it to you, the second option is correct. It is only the Exeter, because of the elusive Moon Stone.

Not having magazines doesn't stop you from making them. As long as you have the proper items, if you complete the recipe before getting the respective Magazine, that will add them to the Junk Shop as well. I had the Twin Lance unexpectedly appear in my Junk Shop early.

Everything else, as time consuming as it may be, can be obtained on Disc 1. Those early Energy Crystals are a doozy.

Anyway, your question if you want it.

well actually na, i was about to get some rest, and my minds at a blank. besides, their was one problem with ff8, why would i need the lionheart when i can junction water to strength and do 4000+ damage right after the field exam with ifrit?

nope, cant think of a thing that i wouldnt have to look up to know the answer to. its all yours zak.

Hold on, 3? You kept telling everyone "no and no" whenever they responded with the two. :/ Ohhh welll....

And I don't see how a pendant hanging from a sword counts as "wearing."


Anyway, sefiros, if you're not taking the question, that doesn't mean it goes back to Zak, that means that it's open. So I'll take it, since rightfully I should have a question anyway, since a thing dangling from a sword is not wearing.


Let's see... this shouldn't be too hard. Why was it that Laguna didn't know about "Eyes on Me" when Raine mentioned it during the conversation with him and Kiros in the Winhill Pub?

Because he had not yet met or heard of Julia?

No, sorry, not it. The Winhill sequence occurs well after Laguna's having met and talked to Julia in the hotel room.

I believe he was off on a mission and couldn't really hear music or something like that right?

My next guess was gonna be something similar. He was busy doing his army stuff while her newest album was released. He had already heard her play it on the piano, but that was before it was popular.

Much closer to the mark, but I'm looking for the specific reason Laguna gave in-game why he didn't know how it goes, and that's not it.

I dunno... he never heard the album itself?

Again, correct in the essentials, but he had a usual, specific Laguna-whiny reason why he hadn't heard it. But that's essentially correct, so it's your question in 24 hours if nobody can come up with the exact correct answer.

Dammit, all your questions involve exact direct quotes from small details... I just looked up the actual answer on youtube and I doubt anyone would have gotten it, but I guess we'll see in 24 hours.

Isn't it something to the effect that Raine has the song but didn't know he listened to music?

Looks like somebody did get it, then, because that's correct. Yeah, his excuse is that Raine never played it for him. And yeah, she says she didn't think he listened to music. Your go if you want it, FF1WithAllThieves. Otherwise, it reverts to Zak and if he doesn't want it, it's a free question.

Alright, sticking with the Laguna theme, when is the first time he visibly notices that something is different as a result of the main characters' presence due to Ellone's power?

Edit: I made the words a little bit clearer. Does nobody know this one?

The question is really confusing. I only understand half of it. :[

There are a couple of times Laguna alludes to "the Faeries" during the Laguna sequences, and I want to know the first time that he visibly notices that there's something like that going on in his head.

Isn't that during the third sequence, when he's asking questions and you have the option to choose one as Squall, and he says that he thinks the faeries are there and so the battles should be easier?

When he said he's afraid of waking up somewhere else??

You have the right idea, but it's earlier than that. If this one's too hard, I'll give you a hint.

Okay... when we he first notices the weirdness with the old key in the second Laguna sequence? Or do we have to go all the way back to the first one?

Okay is it when he's with Julia and squall says something totally negative and i think he starts having a total mind job where he argues with himself.
I honestly don't know, your wording on the question is poor (no offense, i only say it because i know I'm not the only one struggling to comprehend what you mean)

I thought it was in the bar with julia. Pretty sure he hears them there...

If not, it's on the way to the galbadia frozen base (before the old key bit).

Oh my goodness, Kie -- it's been so long! Glad to see you back!

No one escapes the pull. No one. wbwb.

You're still on the right track, but I can think of a specific example a little bit before what you've mentioned. The kind of thing I'm talking about is, for instance, the dialogue in Winhill when you have a list of things to talk about, and one of the options is to say something from the perspective of Squall, which makes Laguna comment on the presence of the faeries. In the event I'm talking about, though, he simply reacts strangely rather than commenting on their presence.

Well, then I'm thinking that would have to be in the bar within the hotel. I think it was at the part where he's trying to muster up the courage to walk onstage and talk to Julia and there's a "Squall option."

I'll say that's close enough. It actually comes up just before Laguna has the waitress show them to the table. You have the option of getting a table, continuing to walk around, or "what's going on?" in darkened print, which makes Laguna clutch his head in confusion. I apologize if this was too obscure, but it seems like we're running out of material for questions that aren't too easy.

sorry, but honestly, that isnt visually anything. Anyone agreeing?
i think we should put all the trivia into one massive thread in the general section.
After 1738 replies, i think maybe you should venture into more complex questions like say "How many locations are their in all the Final fantasy's on the PS1?". Just as an example.

Laguna doesn't do subtle movements. Ever. When I say he clutches his head, I mean he does it really obviously, to the point that someone would probably think he's having a seizure. Also, you were talking about my questions being vague? The example you posted is the most vague trivia question I've ever seen, and I do trivia very frequently.

sefiros, sorry, but fail again.

FF1 - all well, whatever. Let's just move on...

Okay, this should be easy for any true fan of the game, so no looking it up. Name me every ability that's sealed when you initially enter Ultimecia's castle, exactly as they're worded in the English version.

I hope that by "Exactly as their worded" you don't mean in order.

I can think of eight bosses so I'm assuming there are eight in total, but the only ones I can think of are...

Magic
GF
Save
Revive
Item
Limit Break
Draw

I can't think of what the last one is...

Six correct, one worded incorrectly, one missing. Your question in 24 hours if nobody can do better.


I have hidden your answer set behind a spoiler tag-- if anyone else wants to play, I ask that they play fair and not peek.

Alright, it helps me enough to know that there are eight. I'll give it a shot:

Draw
Magic
GF
Resurrect
Item
Save
Command
Limit

This is my best guess. Hope I didn't screw up.

FF1 -- correct in the essentials, not completely correct in the wording. It's now yours within 12 hours (since you are essentially correct) unless someone can get closer.

I think Command is wrong. You missed Ability, maybe that's what replaces Command. Not sure if it's resurrect...I remember it being revive.

Resurrect is not the correct wording, but neither is Revive. Command is wrong, but so is Ability.

Is it Life then?

So it's not ability...how about GF Ability? lol, i remember the word ability.

No, and no. And Kie, if you wanna play, you have to post the full list. But if you've already peeked at the spoiler, it's too late.

Well i'm not really playing this one, i'm just trying to figure it out lol.