Yeah, for me The Cleveland Show both blows & sucks. It's possible it might get better over time like American Dad but it wont come close to the always hilarious and often off-color Family Guy.

Inception Remix - Time (version 2).
has some funky remix tools.
User used FL Studio.
Related video to Junkie XL's remix.
Very intriguing, I thought.


YouTube - Inception Time Remix 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo714JzQJOI)

anybody here heard of the new reissue of Poltergeist like the new Batman reissue the music is taken straight from the film digital mix and the other cd has the orginal sdtk

Don't think it is out yet?

Well, we have mp3 320 or Flac for Batman Returns, Home Alone, Jade, and Star Trek V, as well as First Blood. Within a week and a half. I think the site is healthy and fine. So, now what does Intrada have in store for us, and how much fuss for those will there be???

Tragedy has struck again in my family. My uncle passed away in April and now my grandmother has now left us. This is particularly hard on my dad because Evelyn was his mother and I know how devastating that is after loosing my mother and his wife in 2006. So we are going to Little Rock today where will spend the night and go to her funeral tomorrow. I am not sure if I will be around as much...it really depends on how I am feeling day to day.

Thanks for being good friends and listening,

Zoran

I'm sorry to hear that, Zoran.

I can relate. My dad lost his mother in October. Very difficult for the whole family.

Thank you too for being a good friend and listening. :)

Sorry to hear all the bad news going around. Hope the holidays bring in some cheer!

My condolences Zoran.

Merry Christmas my friends, be happy, be safe.

Merry Christmas my friends, be happy, be safe.

@All of my friends here...I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year full of happiness, good health & prosperity!

Merry Christmas everyone.
JonC

everyone

have some joyful and peaceful days with christmas and new year, as good as possible....

Hey all, I am looking for the Soundtrack to the new Tron movie, can you point me to the right direction?

PM-ed answer.

Hey, I don't think requests or dl links are allowed in this thread, as it is not the dl section of the site. Could we keep them out of my thread, please?

I've just learned about DTS-HD, as apposed to the two types of DTS for DVD and Bluray (DTS core)...
I wish my puter had a bluray player. There's a couple movies where I would like to rip the end credits in DTS (any version higher than the 768kbps found on most DVD's).
I also wish more blurays would have more isolated scores too.
I wonder... I should look into distributing sites and see if they have a survey about what we want to see more often in bluray.
I remember when DVD's first came out, there were little ballets inside asking what special features we would like to see in the next line of DVD's.
If I had known more about computers and isolated scores back then, I would've mugged every shopper for their ballet and filled all of them with "isolated scores in higher definition than AC3".

Happy New Year!

Hello everyone!

hello zaneta, and welcome to the forum! :)

New here. So Happy New Year to all. May the Rain Gods never piss on your parade!

I posted this in another thread, but I think here is a better place. I was searching for opinions on the Sci Fi channel mini-series "Tin-Man"'s score by Simon Boswell. I'm not looking for links, just if anyone has heard it, what did you think? Is it worth the cost to purchase?

It's all right, I suppose. Nothing groundbreaking or special. It's pleasant enough and a well rounded album presentation. If you all ready like what you're hearing, I don't see why you wouldn't purchase it.

YouTube - Central City - Tin Man Soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu-SiM1knpk)

YouTube - Theme From Tin Man - Tin Man Soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phiDg5vbN8M)

I had it. But after one listen, I never heard it again, and ultimately deleted it. It was fine enough, but nothing stood out for me, nothing i would listen to over and over.

New here. So Happy New Year to all. May the Rain Gods never piss on your parade!

;)

welcome, Gordian Knot (what a symbolic nick! :) )

I have to agree. I got tinman somewhere. in mp3 only. im not too thrilled in looking for a lossless rip. it's okay-ish. i mean it goes well with the tv-movie.
the most part, it seems to be loud in the higher frequencies and really gives it a tv-like quality. it's interesting, but i haven't listened to it for a long time.
if you find it cheap, if you like it, it might not be so bad to have a hard copy. factory-pressed CD's tend to last longer than cd-r's or mp3's.

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taken from the download section...

Thanks...but how do I know if it's a good quality film torrent..not that crappy captured-on-camera-at-the-movies stuff..?? :)

Generally, something like "dvd-rip" that's about 700mb is good enough to watch the movie.
It really depends on what kind of quality you want. It also depends on how the movie was encoded.
Sometimes movies will be 1.4GB, which is really good quality for dvd-rips. It might be in two files as well (designed for people who want to burn them to 2 CD-R's).
if you see anything with "x264/h264", it's a sign of excellent video quality.

bluray rips are becoming popular as well, 1080/720/480 rips.
these rips can vary for quality results... some people will make a 1080 rip that's about 1gb in file size. which will look horrible.

as far as audio goes, it'll either be in mp3 (usually 128kbps), or if you're lucky, AC3/DTS.
Know also that this increases the file size.

you can search movies on thepiratebay.org and be happy with any of the results there. they got dvdrips and bluray rips. if the file size is too big (3 or 4gb), then stick to the smaller ones and you'll still do fine for watching movies.

taken from the download section...




Wow..Thanks for all the info...really thanks..:)

Ah, you know what? I think that Schubert track used in The Dark Knight is from Dent's roof-top party.

Tragedy has struck again in my family. My uncle passed away in April and now my grandmother has now left us. This is particularly hard on my dad because Evelyn was his mother and I know how devastating that is after loosing my mother and his wife in 2006. So we are going to Little Rock today where will spend the night and go to her funeral tomorrow. I am not sure if I will be around as much...it really depends on how I am feeling day to day.

Thanks for being good friends and listening,

Zoran

We are very sorry to hear that, my deepest condolences to you. Take care.


taken from the download section...

A small guide to this:
AUDIO
LD / Line.Dubbed - no background noise, higher audio quality
MD / Mic.Dubbed - recorded in a cinema, background noise

VIDEO
CAM-Rip (CAM) - recorded with a camera from the cinema screen, worst quality you can get
TeleSync (TS) - filmed with a professional camera on a tripod in an empty cinema, better than Cam-rip
TeleCine (TC) - converted to video via film scanner, better quality than TeleSync releases
R5 - great image quality, russian DVDs
Retail - best quality, ripped from an official source (DVD,Bluray)

Subbed - film with it's original foreign language but subtitles

Yo ho ho.....

....long time no see....though I would "check in" and see how y'all doing.....great to see some friendly faces still here after events of past couple of months....missed a lot of it for various reasons, including (I gather) some very yummy photos that were doing the rounds!!! lol - ah well, PM box is always open ;) Feel free to share...!

Babydoll - sorry to see stuff not going so well - not nice... :(

Muuuuule

Ahhh. Psych meds recieved. Regimine restarted. "normality" within reach....:D

Now, to get the physical meds back on track, next month sometime. Whee

We are very sorry to hear that, my deepest condolences to you. Take care.


Thank you ML...hanging in there. :)

babydoll, ive notice some forums make it a rule not to mention other sites. and that a lot of the "vetern" members make an effort not to talk about their own site in open forums and whatnot.
i dont think this site has a rule about it. its kind of interesting to find new sites whenever someone mentions one, but i tend to ignore blog sites as they're the fastest to get shutdown.
i think different sites are best said in PM's. and hopefully the receiver will extend the same courtesy, with everyone being so eager to be "first" its kind of frightening these days.

yea, but there are no guidelines on it here at all. I have no second thoughts about the private blogs, of course. It is the more pen and public ones.

43 on Saturday. Sigh.

43 on Saturday. Sigh.

Have fun! :)

happy birthday Amanda (babydoll)!!!

enjoy your day, as far as possible!

Haaaaaaaaaaaapy birthday, babydoll!

Happyest birthday wishes to you miss babydoll.

Ugh! I'm just organizing my Lossy section of music...
Iron Man (Complete)... ~270MB
...after removing the cover embedded in all the files... 237MB.
:/

Which is why i strip my files of all album art, covers, scans, "declarations", etc. I do it every couple months....

Babydoll,

Happy Belated Birthday!!! Hope it was great! :)

Some news from me for the last couple of weeks.
First, I replaced all my incompatible hardware and switched to Windows 7 64bit. Okay, nothing of interest for you, I guess.

I upgraded my internet speed from 2 to 6Mbit - for the same price. I can now fulfill requests much faster.

And last but not least, a lot of people keep asking me about a scorelist/tradelist, which I don't have. Usually, I store all of my lossless scores on DVDs. When I got 4GB of scores from one composer together, I tag them and burn them to disc and add them to my scorelist. This takes a lot of time and all lossy releases or upgraded/expanded lossless scores cannot be found on that list.
This year, I will use USB sticks instead of DVDs for storage. This way, I can replace lossy scores with a better version much easier. And the list will include all the lossy stuff, too. And I am able to join collections from 4DVDs to one stick. The good thing for you is, that I will be able to provide a complete scorelist of my collection. I will start this project with the first two composers this weekend.

"D Hello, new member here, just wanted to say hi.

Nice! congrats FML!
Im still on stinky vista :/
I use DVD's for everything. And i just got an external recently. I'm a little concerned. Most people tend to have issues with externals.
I've got all mine sorted in lossy and lossless. And now just going through everything to remove any embedded pictures as I just recently saved over a GB of space on a *small* collection of lossy music!

I wouldn't mind giving your list a gander whenever it's complete :)

I just got Big Trouble in Little China on bluray! And it has an isolated score in 5.1 DTSHD-MA!!!! HD-MA!!!! DTS!!!! not ac3!!!

only thing, I don't have a bluray player for teh computer, so I can't do a rip myself. at least I can enjoy it on the tv and my loud system.
I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. Just watching the movie in 5.1 (when I bought it on DVD, the audio was 4.1 at the most O_O) and loving it so much! its so clear and crisp compared to its dvd release. (and back when i had it on vhs LMAO).

But, does anyone know how different it is from the LaLaLand release? (aside from the bitrate and 5.1)
i'm not even sure if it'll have the drastic volume changes that other isolated scores like Tomorrow Never Dies exemplifies.

I really want to ask in the Hunt section..as it may generate more information, but it'll definitely lead to a discussion...
Although, I believe FML should have some info?

"D Hello, new member here, just wanted to say hi.

welcome, kgray! :)


@sparky, thos are things I have no clue about, but I guess you are right with funny!

Some news from me for the last couple of weeks.
First, I replaced all my incompatible hardware and switched to Windows 7 64bit. Okay, nothing of interest for you, I guess.

I upgraded my internet speed from 2 to 6Mbit - for the same price. I can now fulfill requests much faster.

And last but not least, a lot of people keep asking me about a scorelist/tradelist, which I don't have. Usually, I store all of my lossless scores on DVDs. When I got 4GB of scores from one composer together, I tag them and burn them to disc and add them to my scorelist. This takes a lot of time and all lossy releases or upgraded/expanded lossless scores cannot be found on that list.
This year, I will use USB sticks instead of DVDs for storage. This way, I can replace lossy scores with a better version much easier. And the list will include all the lossy stuff, too. And I am able to join collections from 4DVDs to one stick. The good thing for you is, that I will be able to provide a complete scorelist of my collection. I will start this project with the first two composers this weekend.
Hey Funny, no offense meant but I'm not quite sure if USB sticks are best way to store the data on for a long term collection. With backups in mind it's not just the handling but from what I know they have limited lifetime (o.k., if the data is not too often written/rewritten a stick will be solid for a decade or so). On the other hand the GB per money rate is much better with (external) HDDs, and to keep a redundant backup array is almost easy.

Good to read you have a faster connection now. I'm waiting for those since ages.

When I upgraded my computer, I discovered I couldn't use my old HD so I had to get a new one.

I just bought a case for it and turned it into a external HD.
I store all of my music on it and the stuff I use regularly I keep on a flash drive.
I use DVD-R's for backing everything else up.

I just need to get that faster connection now.......

All media has it's ups and downs and lifespans. I hear a lot of people are very skeptical about external HDD's. Depending how often you use it.
I've had mine since November last year and haven't had problems yet (lol, 3 months).

I don't know how people feel about defragmenting externals but I keep defragmenting it. And anything I store on it that's larger than 1gb (or even 700mb), will get archived into smaller pieces to allow for proper defragmentation. I use PerfectDisk's Defrag. It has different settings on how it handles files and defrags. Some settings will give you aggressive performance for your drive (and kill it faster, but it functions faster), and extreme opposite settings to preserve the health of your drive (But reduces performance for a cost). I use the "Conservative" setting, and the performance doesn't drop that much, but defrags are less frequent in between. So long as I keep backing up everything in the same manner.

I have a Seagate, and their site says that most problems that occur can be fixed by doing a diagnostic check on the drive. Most people will end up sending their external to Seagate labs only to find out a simple check could've have fixed the problems and saved them money. Seagate has software on their site they recommend using for Seagate Externals.

I want to buy several more. A first line of externals for my data and constant use, then a secondary line for the most important stuff to be backed up and not touched unless the primary line fails. And I plan to transfer everything to a new line of externals if I feel there's some concern. I'll just copy the untouched backup and start using line 2 and leave line 3 untouched. Line 1 can go to hell :P

DVDRs can vary, especially what brand you buy and the burning speed. Verbatim is top-notch, you're expected a longer life-span.
But also storage and how often you use them will also increase their life-span. Cool, dark areas. I keep mine in books or sleeves stuffed in shoe boxes.
And I only store Lossless to DVDR, lossy gets the external and low priority.

I don't know about USB sticks though or anything.

@sparktank

how often do you defrag? (Maybe a silly question, sorry)

my desktop/laptop, I analyze about every 2 weeks.
my external, I analyze every 3 weeks. If I see the performance drop below 80% I defrag, or if any of the file/folder/freespace is compromised.
I also analyze if I know I've done a lot of changes to it. Like removed stuff I don't want, backedup a lot of stuff, or even changed a lot of file names.

Hey Funny, no offense meant but I'm not quite sure if USB sticks are best way to store the data on for a long term collection. With backups in mind it's not just the handling but from what I know they have limited lifetime (o.k., if the data is not too often written/rewritten a stick will be solid for a decade or so).

I recently wanted to listen to a John Barry score I had stored on a TDK DVD, and it's not accessible anymore. Maybe I'm wrong, but my USB-sticks tend to live longer than my DVDs ;) Yes, DVDR's are cheaper than sticks, but money is not my problem.

I have one problem, though. My bluray drive doesn't work properly under W7 x64. I can see all files on my DVDs, but 80% of them have 0 byte in size. I guess I have to replace the drive with a compatible one, before I can transfer all my scores. As far as I know it's an AHCP mode issue, and I can't change the value on my notebook BIOS.
My project will take a bit longer then I hoped, I'm afraid.

Ugh! Yeah, that's the thing I worry about DVD media. It's practically unpredictable how long they'll survive.
What with all their outsourcing to cheaper venues and what-not-have-you. Sony is known to outsource and use cheaper and degrading materials. They're very if-y.

There's a guide out there that tells you the "grade" of your media, if you find the Media ID Code. But, you can only find that out once you buy the DVD's.
Also, this grading system is only based on a number of burns and tests, it's not set in stone and it's meant only as a very rough guideline.
Verbatim's are 1st class. TDK's are up high too.

I want to backup all my DVD/CD backups before they're kaput! I haven't tested any of the old ones, so I'm a little worried. I know some of the stuff was very hard to find, especially in lossless quality!! D:

As much as I love my Sony vio (both old and new), my sony D8 camcorder, my Sony MD player and my Sony camera, I will NEVER again buy Sony DVD R's.

I got a 100 pk for 20$ when CompUSA went out of business, and I was only able to use 18 out of the entire 100.

I would have thought they would be up with the same quality as their other products.
I was seriously disappointed.
I also don't like the Sony MD and the D8 tapes. TDK is so much better all the way around. I just got my first 50pk of DVD-R's that are Verbatim.
Glad to know I finally got something that is going to be worthwhile.
My kids love Memmorex record-able media, but I haven't used it.

I too archive all of my music on dvd-r's as well but I can't really report any read errors from any particular brand. The total number to date of my soundtrack/score archive is 77 dvd-r's ranging from Memorex, Imation, Maxell & Sony brands. I also keep redundant backups on a couple of 500GB external drives which allows me to organize and find what I am looking for a lot faster.

does it matter whether you archive the files packed (.rar or zip) or "just" as files on these dvds?

I admit I haven't been doing any of this saving someplace else. I defrag both laptop and external. And I use the repair program (this thing in 5 phases, sort of like "scan disk")

Maybe I should start saving some on dvds?

does it matter whether you archive the files packed (.rar or zip) or "just" as files on these dvds?

I admit I haven't been doing any of this saving someplace else. I defrag both laptop and external. And I use the repair program (this thing in 5 phases, sort of like "scan disk")

Maybe I should start saving some on dvds?

Actually it seems to...I have had many problems unpacking zips & rars saved on discs both cd-rom and dvd-rom, I have no idea why. I almost always unpack right after I downoad these days.

Actually it seems to...I have had many problems unpacking zips & rars saved on discs both cd-rom and dvd-rom, I have no idea why. I almost always unpack right after I downoad these days.

good to know.... maybe I should start doing some back up. (At least now I have an external dvd drive, the one in the lap was a cd drive only)

If you back up anything archived and store it on disc, there could be issues unpacking if the disc is dirty, damaged or scratched. Any unreadable part of the disc could lead to the archive becoming corrupt or damaged itself when you copy it to the HDD then extract. If there's no recovery record, there's no chance of recovery.
You could try to repair the archive and see what you can extract out of it.
I like to keep the files as is, track by track in folders. That way I only risk losing some tracks rather than a whole album. Depending on how badly the disc has suffered.
(Also make sure you never use the "extract here" by accident, like I have on several occasions, as files can't be extracted to a read-only media lol!)

The only time I really archive anything then backup to disc is if it's an ISO image for a game or something that's meant for DVD-9's. Or multiple DVD-9's.
I get scared of that.

I'm just looking up how fun it is to create a brand new .cue sheet for DTS-WAVs. I finished converting the DTS-WAVs and they can be imported into Nero and burned as an Audio CD to create a 5.1 DTS-CD, but I'm wondering how to do a .cue sheet.
I got only the custom made tracks that didn't come with an original .cue sheet. I'm learning that it's best to create one large file with a .cue sheet for maximum compatibility for home amplifiers/receivers that can decode DTS. Reason being that the DTS decoding stream might reset in between tracks, causing the music to be cut off. With a single file and cue, this can be avoided. Disc-at-once vs tracks-at-once or something big and technical :P

sparky, you lost me after the first half, but me no savvy ;)
it is very impressing though! :D

(And I even understood the first half!)

:) lol yeah, I can get very fancy at times.


"I just wanted you to know how hard it was."

Random movie quote: "It's just good business..." (walks down some stairs)
(Michael Bay explosions in slow motion)

I think I have everything backed up in triplicate.

I burn one DVD full, - My son takes it
I burn another DVD - I hide it
I save it to my external HD - My daughter takes it.

At least if one goes down I have two more.
Somewhere

Downloaded EAC. Taking my first tumbling steps into learning how to do and share proper lossless rips. Pray for me.... :/

Downloaded EAC. Taking my first tumbling steps into learning how to do and share proper lossless rips. Pray for me.... :/

Cool, finally your uploads will be of interest for me :)

BBC News - Composer John Barry dies aged 77 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12321610)

:( :( :(

Truly one of The Greats.

RIP John Barry
:(

Very sad news :(
One of my favourite composers ever,
R.I.P John Barry,
Bond,Out of Africa,Dances with wolves,Born Free,The Ipcress file,The persuaders,the list is vast,
One of the few composers who can quite literally reduce me to tears (I defy anyone who's lost someone to listen to Somewhere in time without filling up)
Truly a man who has indeed left a huge legacy..............

Thank you for your outstanding work

Kindest regards
Tys

R.I.P. You will be missed by millions of movie goers...myself included.

His Discography:
SoundtrackCollector: Filmo/Discography: John Barry (http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/composerdiscography.php?composerid=80)

Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48278)

Babydoll, here's a few sites I always check through when setting up EAC for the first time. Once it's set up nicely, you won't have to do it again until you re-install it.
Once you go through them all, you'll see all the things they're talking about in the setups.

A Perfectionist's Guide to Audio CD Extraction and Lossless Compression (http://lunetta.net/lossless/)
Eli's Suggested EAC settings for FLAC - Hydrogenaudio Forums (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=30959)

http://blowfish.be/eac/Setup/setup1.html
HipHopIsCoolAgain � Secure CD Ripping with Exact Audio*Copy (http://hiphopiscoolagain.com/secure-cd-ripping-with-exact-audio-copy/)
Fryth's EAC Ripping Guide (http://www.fryth.com/eacfaq/)

(I pick the first 2 usually).
There was another on Sonic Forums, but it's no longer available. I think it's either down or just no longer accessible to the public.

One thing I don't really see in the guides: when you have a CD loaded in your drive, only then can you change the "Speed selection" in the "Offset/Speed" tab of the "Drive Options". The lower the value the more accurate the rip. It'll take longer, but it's worth it. Especially if some of the disks have endured any scratches or rough times.

Those guides will help set the options so your drive rips at its optimal performance. Perfect for CD to FLAC (Level 8 saves the most space and has no effect on quality).

It is human nature to seek validation in whatever we do. Yes even in the filesharing communities it is frowned upon to take other peoples rips and post them as your own. I still think when you do not thank the original poster and credit them when you post elsewhere is shitty and says more about you.

Mine may be a shitty attitude or not: I'll only feel obliged to credit someone when that person has contributed in some way to the creation of the stuff shared. Don't forget that the filesharer is almost-always guilty of sharing something which is not his/her creation. Filesharing guys are good guys, in a way, but they're also bad guys.

Should I respect someone which isn't respecting the will of the original composer/music publisher/book writer...? No.

EDIT
Careful, I'm not saying I'm not grateful for what they're doing. What I'm saying is that if I want I can go and claim the rip/scan/whatever as my own... If the original sharer has a bit of honesty still alive within him, he will recognize he doesn't have many reasons to get mad at me. You stole from them, I stole from you.

Mine may be a shitty attitude or not: I'll only feel obliged to credit someone when that person has contributed in some way to the creation of the stuff shared. Don't forget that the filesharer is almost-always guilty of sharing something which is not his/her creation. Filesharing guys are good guys, in a way, but they're also bad guys.

Should I respect someone which isn't respecting the will of the original composer/music publisher/book writer...? No.

I recognize & understand that I do not own the music that I share. But does that one simple point dictate that anyone who shares that music in a community like ours does not deserve a simple thank you? I see your point about how mentioning original uploaders as being "dangerous" but all filesharers put themselves in that position every time they post. You have said what you feel about it and I thank you and in no way am I angry about it.

I recognize & understand that I do not own the music that I share. But does that one simple point dictate that anyone who shares that music in a community like ours does not deserve a simple thank you? I see your point about how mentioning original uploaders as being "dangerous" but all filesharers put themselves in that position every time they post. You have said what you feel about it and I thank you and in no way am I angry about it.
About having a thanks, they sure as hell deserve it, but I also think that they shouldn't make too much of a fuss if they don't get it... That's all. I'm already very happy I'm sharing, that I'm able to give something back, every once in a while. Getting thanks make me happier, of course, but I can live without them on this kind of communities.

@BJ

Yeah that guy konio755 has got some gaul posting other peoples work as his own sometimes the very day the original poster made the post and before they (orignal poster) can share it elsewhere he has already beat them to the punch.

What an ass. http://peachyforum.com/userdir/Gemini37/Smiley's/NEW/pissedoff2.gif


HAHA right .. but i like him .. he is fast and he is upping a lohohohohot of stuff .. but ok, if he got the time for it, he should to give credit .. mimi

if you look at any of Konio re-post, they are very detailed and he even writes to leave thanks so that being said, he can't write a simple "not my rip" or "thanks to the original uploader."

just for the record, i'd like to make a few things clear.

i don't really care for the credit but i personally only post on the FF thread and not the main thread. that way people can see my avatar and my share and as such they know it is my upload.

i don't post my upload in the main page/directory because i feel that there is best for FLAC or Mp3 320 rips.

i provide tide me over rips that for some people are good enough and for others are not. some claim to have ordered the disc or wish to do so at a later time and i think my sampler shares are good enough for those kinds of people.

i think its fair to give credit consider Konio re-post my stuff almost hours after i share it and he does in fact get the upload for me or at the very least inform others it isn't his rip.

again it isnt anything personal and i think it helps to clear things up.

its like the fuss people make over calling a DVD RIP a PROMO or COMPLETE/EXPANDED score.

Being somewhat precise in the naming of a post is..helpful, though. A dvd rip is not a promo. Granted for many, it doesn't matter. But, for collectors, it does. Like this Rocketeer album I was just listening to. It is in fact a dvd rip. But, had it been a real academy promo, I think that would have excited a few folks. Now, the ten minute download, and maybe ten listening, no big deal. Depending on the IE service...

As for credit, if BJ there is ok with it, then its not anyone else's deal. I do think that reposting within an hour or so, is...mm..maybe a little disrespectful, especially when blanketing a dozen blogs in an hour. I brought this up recently. But, on the other hand, in today's climate it is true that many mirrors increase the chance of a link lasting. IF that is a concern to the poster. As for credit, like Sorei, most of my stuff comes from on-line somewhere, much of it before I ever found this site. Unless I specify I own a disc, it is safe to assume it is not my rip. I think that is often a case, with some notable exceptions. These things are getting passed around so much, tracking who posted what when is kinda a waste of time. That said, it is nice to know that your effort to even bother sharing is appreciated now and then.

I know I should let this guy get to me but holy fuck it he does. So Black Death has made a comment and I'd like all the members that care to chime in to please drop their own two cents on the following.


And if he didn't post it at a shitty bitrate, someone else would have posted it at a decent bitrate instead.

So can someone explain to me how my rips keep others from posting better rips?

i think the big credit goes to the composer and the label
a credit to the ripper (only if it a fine rip)
- i heard now, that some pleople likes small rips. ok. but please make a 320 and flac rip too
and a thank you goes to the upper. and yes, if the upper knows about the ripper. please give credit

the upper should have a nice credit too if it a rare or brand new release (just for the hard work to find it)

Well, I **suppose** it is within the (slight) realm of possibility that if members see that it is already posted, they won't bother with their own rips. However, even konio's posts suggest otherwise. look at how many multiple posts we get around here all the time. And it is far worse on other sites. paradox can have three posts of the same album by three different members in a day. I don't see any evidence that an album's already having been posted affects the chances of more posts. I kinda wish it did at times, to lessen the clutter...:/

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I'm not downloading your stupid rips and that's that. Why do you have to make it out to more than what it is?

i think the big credit goes to the composer and the label
a credit to the ripper (only if it a fine rip)
- i heard now, that some pleople likes small rips. ok. but please make a 320 and flac rip too
and a thank you goes to the upper. and yes, if the upper knows about the ripper. please give credit

the upper should have a nice credit too if it a rare or brand new release (just for the hard work to find it)

I never wish to take credit away from the Label or Composer but at the very least if people know this is one of my rips and they HATE my rips, they can avoid them or be suspicious of a rip if someone like Konio posts NOT MY RIP.

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I'm not downloading your stupid rips and that's that. Why do you have to make it out to more than what it is?

If you wish to constantly remind me so of this fact then I will constantly cause a stir.

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Well, I **suppose** it is within the (slight) realm of possibility that if members see that it is already posted, they won't bother with their own rips. However, even konio's posts suggest otherwise. look at how many multiple posts we get around here all the time. And it is far worse on other sites. paradox can have three posts of the same album by three different members in a day. I don't see any evidence that an album's already having been posted affects the chances of more posts. I kinda wish it did at times, to lessen the clutter...:/

But how many times have we seen members ask for upgrades of albums and other members provide? Or better how many have provided their own personal rips of albums that could have been found if searched for on the net?

Happens all the time. I often ask for upgrades, nothing wrong with that. And, yes, I have asked you for better rips. Guess what? You gave them to me. SHOCKING....:D

Normally, I would expect a better rip to surface eventually. lately though, there have been less on the public blogs. More on the private ones, but not as often or as freely as in the past. I do not credit your rips for that, just seems folks are being more cautious, and more private. Which is why i suggest pm-ing people nicely. More likely to get it than insulting them publicly.

Then again, I'm nutters...:D

If you wish to constantly remind me so of this fact then I will constantly cause a stir.

Just as you constantly bring me up at EVERY opportunity? :laugh:

Some would almost say you have a thing for me or something.

I have a thing for you sweetie...wait, inappropriate, sorry :D

BUUUT, truthfully, your name **was** brought into this first, and it isn't a stretch to forsee that you would respond to that. So, yea.

I'm not downloading your stupid rips and that's that. Why do you have to make it out to more than what it is?
Stupid rips? How ungrateful, someone goes out of his/her way and shares, yet people like you got the guts to complain and insult... Did you all forget that all these sharers are already doing a great, kind, thing "simply" by sharing? You have the chance to get stuff for free, here, something you should have paid for in the first place, in most cases. You... as well as anyone else in your place... shouldn't be complaining about the quality. It's perfectly fine to request better-quality rips, but going as far as insulting a sharer's work.... No, that's simply wrong.

How do you say it in english? Don't look a gifted horse in the mouth?

Just as you constantly bring me up at EVERY opportunity? :laugh:

Some would almost say you have a thing for me or something.

Your right. I did bring your name up first. I said the following....


thank you Konio755.

now this way people like the black death can attack both of us for "spreading our inferior rips across the web."

I made that comment as a joke but it stems from an actual statement you made. I don't see how this was me trolling or flaming you.

And sure enough you wasted no time slamming the upload.

Sadly, when I am banned, no one will see that I was in fact baited into all this by bjbien1010. Oh well.

I'd also like to say I personally have no interest in "Link," it's a small little score I've never even heard of, so I wouldn't be surprised if a better rip never shows up. Jerry Goldsmith will be immortalized in 160 VBR forever...

Pretty much. I don't see anything wrong in asking for 320, or lossless. never hurts to ask. But lately, it's more like demanding. And, insulting anything posted in less. Even I can remember when 320 was a gift of gifts. Leon is right. it's free. Enjoy it. or, don't. Wait for a better rip. I passed on 48 hours, hoping for better. And, still we wait. As i said, it is all personal preference. If the labels had their way, we'd not have any of this....

Stupid rips? How ungrateful, someone goes out of his/her way and shares, yet people like you got the guts to complain and insult... Did you all forget that all these sharers are already doing a great, kind, thing "simply" by sharing? You have the chance to get stuff for free, here, something you should have paid for in the first place, in most cases. You... as well as anyone else in your place... shouldn't be complaining about the quality. It's perfectly fine to request better-quality rips, but going as far as insulting a sharer's work.... No, that's simply wrong.

How do you say it in english? Don't look a gifted horse in the mouth?

The funny thing is, I know every time he uploads an anticipated score in low quality VBR, he is in fact doing it to spite me. He even said as much in one comment of his.

But, if you don't care about link, then why the to-do?

Blackdeath, do me this favor in the future. If you seen one of my uploads feel free to type or say "BJ rip = Pass or BJ rip = No thanks" and by all means request a 320 or FLAC rip.

I'm sure members who will eventually receive their own disc will comply.

I will not however stop posting my uploads especially since enough people seem to enjoy them. I am sorry you are not one of them. I cannot help that there aren't any more members who actually buy disc in the FF.

The funny thing is, I know every time he uploads an anticipated score in low quality VBR, he is in fact doing it to spite me. He even said as much in one comment of his.
I don't know anything about that, and quite frankly is not my problem. You shouldn't go and insult his efforts, even if his versions are the only ones available, keep in mind that sharers must not share, they don't have any kind of obligation to the community.... Going and insulting someone that wasted his/her time to provide you with free stuff isn't really nice.

Sadly, when I am banned, no one will see that I was in fact baited into all this by bjbien1010. Oh well.

I'd also like to say I personally have no interest in "Link," it's a small little score I've never even heard of, so I wouldn't be surprised if a better rip never shows up. Jerry Goldsmith will be immortalized in 160 VBR forever...

I don't see how you took my comment as baiting. Even if I posted "Because we all know HE WHO HATES MY RIPS will find some reason to complain" you'd still know it was you. I've got no reason to mix words.

You made it clear you dont like my rips and for me to joke about such is not baiting. I was making light of our last exchange.

I've been making light for the last several comments. I think this is all HILARIOUS.

I recognize & understand that I do not own the music that I share. But does that one simple point dictate that anyone who shares that music in a community like ours does not deserve a simple thank you? I see your point about how mentioning original uploaders as being "dangerous" but all filesharers put themselves in that position every time they post. You have said what you feel about it and I thank you and in no way am I angry about it.

so thieves who steals from thieves should have a code among themselves?
Hilarious indeed, as long as it is downloads we are talking about, who cares?
This is why the Shrine is a fun place to visit and reading about all the egos that are in play here...
Leech or share, but why complaining of something that is for free.
Then again I do not understand this game of who is the fastest to put up a new link of a new released CD?
If it is old or OOP, I understand, but the new ones??

so thieves who steals from thieves should have a code among themselves?
Hilarious indeed, as long as it is downloads we are talking about, who cares?
This is why the Shrine is a fun place to visit and reading about all the egos that are in play here...
Leech or share, but why complaining of something that is for free.
Then again I do not understand this game of who is the fastest to put up a new link of a new released CD?
If it is old or OOP, I understand, but the new ones??

I see people make request for new stuff and since I have it I throw in my shares.

I don't feel credit on my rips is so much an ego thing but more of a you know exactly what rip it is and you might wish to avoid.

In a perfect world my rips would just stay on the FF thread and never leave there. I don't want them spreading.

There are so many trolls at FSM. I mean FFS....
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and we all fuckin' ever'body's couch.

..actually, there's only a couple. Each with an odd sense of humor.

I personally only think one person should be on the credits of any rip: the composer/lyricist. In other words, whoever actually thought the music into being. For example, on any classical music in my library, there is only one name present: the composer. The one who put pen to paper. I don't give a nickel-plated shit who else was involved. They are just mouthpieces.

So, you see, it really matters very little who is or is not credited. Hell, even IF the creator wasn't credited (or no one at all, for that matter!), a simple wikipedia/google/mobygames/vgmd search fixes that.

Well, that is just entirely sensible and no fun at all...:D

I need a bluray drive for the computer. I have Big Trouble In Little China on bluray. And the isolated score is in 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio!
Not only Surround Sound, but phenomenal bitrate! Which is a lot more than what the LaLa Land Records release offers (which I still want to buy for archiving).
I can't even find a full bluray rip anywhere to download and do the work myself.
In the meantime, I just play it on the stand-alone bluray player connected to loud system. It's soooo pretty!

:D :D :D :D

I have that DVD in my player right now, ready for a viewing tonight. :)

I think the LaLa edition is sold out though. :(

Really??? crud. oh well, at least I found a FLAC rip and have it on bluray :D

In honor of Gertrude Stein's birthday, I've had a brownie.
It was chocolate, and it was delicious.

JonC

Sooooo. I've been away from the Film Score Hunt Thread for a while... and it was shut down because of apparently the same reason the first one was... WTF?! Can't you people get along without me to sheperd you???!!! :) Joke, joke. At least the idiot that torched the place has been banned so we're safe... until the next one comes along. I would postulate Abbadon and Black Death were one and the same but unfortunately there are actually plenty of jerks like that to go around. Peace. :D

Yeh, the Hunt was cancelled for the time being.
And whatshisface was banned... for the time being.
So we're all going to have to pull the hunt for ourselves... for the time being.
It's a nice change of pace... for the time being.
Well, I'm off to do some editing and and might have something up soon... for the time being.

So, am I to understand that the media player setting for lossless when ripping cd's is not err..lossoess? I ask because most oy older discs are comming up as not verrified oneac. They play great, and rip fine in media player, but are quite worn, and not of much use for archivists...

That said, I can do Twister, and Nightmare Before Christmas in windows lossless still if wanted, but i need to remember who requested them????

Hmm............i think possibly so?
"not verified on eac", you mean the AccurateRip results?
If it shows none of the tracks are verified, it should mean you have a different pressing than the ones submitted to EAC.
It's all user-based, so whoever rips and submits, it gets added to the list for AccurateRip results.
It also depends on the settings you chose, I believe.

Each drive is different and requires different settings. If not configured properly, the results will be different for AccurateRip results.
If a lot of people use basic settings for their drive and submit those results, I think it can get a little hairy.
You'll see [confidence: ##] a lot, if it doesn't say "not accurate". The number indicates how many people had the same rip results as yours (and submitted them).
I submit my results and drive settings. I'm part of the collective now. And perhaps #17 on the Confidence scale. Maybe even 1 :/

As long as you don't see any CRC errors or any other strange errors, the AccurateRip results are very...variable.
"You may have a different pressing" is something most people like to see if you're rips aren't accurate.

When I bought the Inception soundtrack, I ripped the CD right away to make an immediate backup before it suffers any scratches.
Not one track was accurate in the AccurateRip database. No errors though. So it was all good.

People should be happy with any lossless format.

If your discs are quite worn, EAC should be able to rip them at a slower speed and use different techniques to read the disc to try and recover as much as possible without error.

I've got some worn discs, but rip fine with EAC. One really bad disc though :(
Found an updated rip somewhere so at least I've got a working rip :)
Still wish the CD worked though :(
Maybe I'll but it again :)
If I can find it...

"Tasting the rainbow" is pretty expensive these days, and really not good for the blood sugar. Still though, addictive...

Skittles....

I REQUIRE A BROWNIE DAMN IT! LOL

They say the longer you go without something they better or the worse it tastes.
I had Doritos for the first time in 2 years yesterday. (Having a cholesterol level of over 400 resulted in a seriously restricted diet.)

Too salty for my tastes now.
I'm not missing out on anything cept the 2$ I am out for the bag of chips.

Chocolate on the other hand, how I have missed you.

I haven't had skittles forever! I was more of an M&M fan myself. on good days.
most other times it was Smarties!

i just finished watching Burlesque....WOW!! I LOVED IT!!!!!
1080p, worth the 8gb download!

Skittles fizzl'd fruits....err, meh. I am not big on any fizzing in my mouth. Err, wait...

Still digging on despicable Me....need to get me some minions..I mean **cousins** :D

I started watching Burlesque but my Hubby started playing WOW.

I got booted off the net.

I called my ISP today and got better Internet service.

Little does he know he's now paying for it.

Burlesque is not bad. And at least there Christina can't mess the lyrics... XD
Really though, she messed up but come on, get off the girls back already. Jeez.

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Transformers: Prime is back. F*** Yeah!!!

Christina was doing a great job from what I could see.

Who cares? She messed up a line, big whoop. At least she's got the voice to make you overlook that tinsy snafoo, most of the one bashing her for it don't. And she was humble enough to own it and appologize. Sing, baby, sing. :)

** is having a Horner-iffic time posting Horner scores** heeeheeeheee :D

Wow, this thread hasn't had any life in it lately :p I hope all of you are still well and while you're all trying to ride out the shenanigans of the hunt thread why don't you come over and check out the Final Fantasy Shrine Idol :) Lots of fun to be had for everyone who loves music! Spread the word and come check it out! :) Thread 86846

Someone's gonna get a torn ass.

Someone's gonna get a torn ass.

Like that's anything new in this thread....

this thread is cute. :)

Seeing those kittens, I feel I should be wearing a muzzle.

Seeing those kittens, I feel I should be wearing a muzzle.


Is your bite worse than your Whine? Oops, I mean Bark....

:naughty:

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Ok, back to being serious.

What is the difference between Blu-ray and DVD and why should I upgrade to Blu-ray?

(My kids are trying to get me to get a plasma tv, but I really like the LED tv I saw at BestBuy. They also want a Blu-ray player.)

If there is no really good reason, I will hold off till they stop making DVD's, then upgrade. I just really hate having to buy a movie on one format (such as Gleaming the Cube on Beta) then having to buy it again in two more formats because of technology.

Thanks
AirElemental

Cats...evil....eeeeeevvviiillll

I mean, just look at 'em, obviously up to no good...

I understand Blue-Ray players will also play regular dvd, so you should not have to re-buy any of them unless you wanted to.

I think its a kid thing.

I'm still replacing some of my vhs tapes.

I felt blackmailed into dvd, and now feel the same about blue-ray. On my current tv, it won't make much difference. But i gather that if you invest in a new, fancy set, it is well worth the investment for Blue-ray, as it is supposed to be quite superior.

I just got a brand new fancy Sony Vio with a blue-ray.
Watched two movies on blue-ray disks and did not see a difference between it and what is on my 1998 sanyo tv, and memorex dvd player.

Personally the sound on my tv was better than my new Vio, and I have a speaker system connected to the docking station.

I have no way to compare. I simply don't have the equipment for it to matter. Who knows. But i figure Blue ray is the "wave of the future"....much like 3d movies and TV. I just love how non-3d entertainment is now referred to as "real-D"...:b

I am happy about a hard disc recorder, I won't be able to enjoy blue ray for a while, but I can live without it. as long as I can see what I am interested in, frankly it dies not have to be the best of "formats". :D

Partly because, like you said, AirElemental, I might not even notice a difference ;)

@babdoll, non-3-d is real-D? Gosh.
I am trying to get awake in real-L (real life)

Well, I am trying to NOT be awake in real life. Only got 4 hours. It is only 6am here....blah.

3-D makes me sick to my stomache.

I've seen some AVI and MP4's that have better video and sound than some DVD's and Blue Ray.

Personally, DVD's are cheaper. I'll stick with that.

Sooooo is this thread dead then?

The thing about bluray and dvd is that, if properly transfered, the film grain and other settings might be improved.
Sometimes the director will be invited to supervise the transfer and say what they want done.

The Aliens Quadrilogy is an example. Except for the 4th movie: Alien Resurrection. He was never invited. It was a simple transfer with no improvements.
The Matrix had its original green hue restored. The first dvd release had the green hue, just like in the theaters. Then when they made the fancy boxset, they removed it. Then when they made the bluray, they restored it. Nostalgic, I think.

The bitrate for the movies much higher, but yeah, it's mostly noticable on tv's that are 37" and up.
The sound is improved. The audio bitrate can be the new lossles formats for movies: DTS-HD Master Audio, Dobly TrueHD, PCM (Uncompressed).
Even the AC3 encoding has improved. It's no longer the DVD-compliant bitrate of 448.
AC3 tracks are typically @640 for the main movie now. And some isolated scores.
They say that @640, it has transparency. or something or other, which is lost at bitrates lower than 448.

Bluray may have more special features not found on dvd. Batman Begins, Inception, and a few others. Mostly the newew releases.

I only got about 20 bluray movies. which isn't nearly a fraction of the dvd's i have.
i still watch dvd though...with a grain of salt >.>


But, wait! What's this???
they want to make a "RED RAY" now.....which will be like 5x the capacity of a bluray.................................... O_O

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oh, and i dont really care about Bluray 3D at home...its not even that much of a hype in theaters....unless the movie is a blockbuster like Tron Legacy or something.....

Until ReadD-3D markets their technology at a super low price for ALL home users....yeah, i'll stick to red/blue, red/green sunglasses.

I seem to always be a little behind in new audio/video technologies usually by choice. As I wait for the prices to come down I check out the differences through friends & family that have the new tech.

I am beyond sick of scrapping my old equipment for the next new thing or gimmick like 3-D TV. Year before last my Dad bought a 48" Sony Bravio HD LCD TV at Wal-mart's black Friday sale not because he was lusting after something new but because our old tv died and that was just the right price.

Our standard dvd's look great and our old vhs tapes that we have yet to transfer look ok in EP and good in SP so why shoud I buy a blue-ray player so you can see the pours on the actors face? Why isn't a clear picture good enough? My Dad never watches the special features but I do but I also get sick of buying a dvd and 3 months later they release the new wiz-bang deluxe version to milk more cash out us.

My Dad and I have spent 36 years building our movie library with more than 10,000 movies & tv titles combined on beta tape (transfered or re-recorded to vhs in the 90's), vhs tape (only 25% have been tranfered/re-recorded on dvd-rom or replaced on dvd) and standard dvd. At this point both of us refuse to "upgrade" to blu-ray.

I'll stick with the old equipment too seeing as I just replaced my Beta player.

I did some recording on the Beta video recorder and it transfered to my computer just as good as my Sony Digital 8.

I figure if they have to change formats again I will just copy everything to my computer.
I really hate having to buy everything again.
Its just some office jock trying to make more money.

Hello, I am looking for some things, do you have it?

1. Gears of War 1 and 2 OST
2. Robin Hood OST (Russel Crow)
3. Unreal Tournament 2004 and UT3 OST
4. Guilty Gear X2 (Music straight from game)

Please try to not put them in .FLAC format or anything that is uncompatible with an MP3 player type device, I would like to get these on one. Thanks! :-)

Chances are you'll have better luck in this thread:

Thread 78573

This one here that you're in right now is just a discussion thread. :)

Thanks, copying post to that thread...

Any Batman fans out there?
http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/batman-arkham-asylum-original-videogame-score-soundtrack-91125/#post1707757

4 months left till Arkham City's release!

*blows the dust off of the thread*
*coughs*

*blows the dust off of the thread*
*coughs*

Yup, you're right, this thread's been dead for a while Spark... hows it going with the Bonds in FLAC?

Awesome! Tak reclaimed the mantle and will be handling it now.
He's already got 5 posted with more to come!

What? We have a general chat thread? Who would've thought? Some enterprising soul must have had a genius idea. :D

Nobody comes here anymore. The stigma of some chat in the threads seems to have passed for now.

What? We have a general chat thread? Who would've thought? Some enterprising soul must have had a genius idea. :D

Nobody comes here anymore. The stigma of some chat in the threads seems to have passed for now.

Well,chatting is the only thing keeps most threads alive... we don't want a moderator coming in here and shutting it down, do we?

Never happen. I created this thread, at the request of admin. We are technically not supposed to have any non-dl talking in the download section. Became an issue there, which is why they had me start the thread here, so we can chat, and not clutter up the dl forums. But in the past few months, that seems to have evolved yet again....

Nobody comes here anymore.

The film/video game score folk are scared of GD.

I blame Sparky. He's weird. :p

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:/ I wonder WHY they'd be cautious..???? :D

The film/video game score folk are scared of GD.

I blame Sparky. He's weird. :p

oh come on! kids love me....



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The film/video game score folk are scared of GD.

I blame Sparky. He's weird. :p

Pot+Kettle+Black. :p

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oh come on! kids love me....


At least the ones who don't suffer from Coulrophobia do.

Pot+Kettle+Black. :p

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it took me forever to find that clip

Klaus Badelt seems to have posted a great deal of music on his website. Some stuff, X-Men (Logo Variations), Pearl Harbor, Gladiator, The Thin Red Line and MI:2 seem to be new. Hell he has more tracks for TMNT than I have ever seen. Anyone knowledgeable about his music able to give a rundown on what was previously unavailable?

I loved the Pledge by Badelt.

Boogiepop pointed that one out to me, but I still need to discover more of his music, any suggestions?

Wait....is this a Film Score thread?

Never would have guessed.

Klaus Badelt seems to have posted a great deal of music on his website. Some stuff, X-Men (Logo Variations), Pearl Harbor, Gladiator, The Thin Red Line and MI:2 seem to be new. Hell he has more tracks for TMNT than I have ever seen. Anyone knowledgeable about his music able to give a rundown on what was previously unavailable?

I would say you have to like the Zimmer style first of all, but I would probably recommend Solomon Kane most of all.

I still need to discover more of his music, any suggestions?

I quite liked The Promise. Very pleasant and epic (and I'm NOT just using this word to describe a comic book movie).

I think Rescue Dawn (http://youtu.be/ZjkslIg9hoY) is HIGHLY underrated.

K-19: The Widowmaker and The Time Machine has some nice bits in them too.

I would say you have to like the Zimmer style first of all, but I would probably recommend Solomon Kane most of all.

I have about seven or eight Zimmer scores I love.

THOSE are action scores, though (besides "Beyond Rangoon", I guess) but I loved the quiet Pledge Score. Not because it was Zimmer-like, I guess ;)

lol i always wondered what happened to this thread.
speaking of scores (in the relevant thread), Im quite taken by Bates latest Conan score.
it doesn't match Poledouris' scores, no.
But I think it's quite nice.
i'd listen to it while playing RTS games.

I quite liked The Promise. Very pleasant and epic (and I'm NOT just using this word to describe a comic book movie).

I think Rescue Dawn (http://youtu.be/ZjkslIg9hoY) is HIGHLY underrated.

K-19: The Widowmaker and The Time Machine has some nice bits in them too.

promise,rescue dawn on my playlist now.
K-19 and time machine too, but not as high up ;)

I actually really enjoyed Gabriel Yared's score for what ended up as the crapfest of Troy. It would have lent the film a bit more of the old-time epic feel of Newman/Bernstein, etc. Not that Horner did a poor job. I just prefer the over-the-top quality of Yared's reading of the film.

Speaking of a score I don't care for - not surprisingly - the new Conan, by not-my-favorite-composer Tyler Bates seems sadly lacking - especially when compared to the glorious brashness of BP's 1st two scores. Even when compared to another remake - Clash of the Titans. (Which itself was a disappointment to me - based on my love of the original) but comparing these two scores - I have to say the new COTT really holds up better with the mythos of the subject matter.

Though I guess I'll have to reserve final judgement for actually seeing the movie - though it will be a couple weeks before it hits Taiwan. Maybe the marriage of score and image will help the enjoyment. Though I do prefer music that can stand-alone - like BP's earlier efforts.

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promise,rescue dawn on my playlist now.
K-19 and time machine too, but not as high up ;)

I really love The Time Machine - it is one of my favorite scores by KB - though The Promise gets high marks IMO as well. Both of those scores (the albums anyway) seem like cohesive full-bodied listening experiences - which I love. I get kind of lost when an album presentation lingers too long on dense fiddle-de-da action music - but give me some thematic material like these two - and I'll love it forever.

What other of his albums would live up to that pedigree (Of The Promise & Time Machine?)

I should point it out here too...

The Sherlock Holmes soundtrack by Hans Zimmer is not 5.1.
No matter how you look at it and what software you use, it's all stereo.
Which means Dolby Pro Logic I/II

When you buy the CD and put it in your computer, the extra content on the disc gives you a link to follow.
At the link given, you will be able to download, for free, the soundtrack in supposedly 5.1 WAV files.

But when looking at all the files in different software, it all indicates stereo.
No sign of it being 5.1.

And I've played around with a lot of multichannel files. FLAC, WAV, etc.

I don't know what they were thinking, but they screwed that up.

They made up for it when you buy the 2-disc blu-ray of Inception.
The second disc only features 10 of 12 tracks in DTS-HD Master Audio (5.1, 24bit, 48KHz). The other two tracks not in the soundtrack contain excerpts, variations of Edith Piaf's "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rian", so copyrights were probably not obtained to put them on blu-ray.

I was going to share the WAV files, but since they're not actually 5.1, it would be just a waste of time to upload.
And a great waste of time for others to download.

Klaus Badelt seems to have posted a great deal of music on his website. Some stuff, X-Men (Logo Variations), Pearl Harbor, Gladiator, The Thin Red Line and MI:2 seem to be new. Hell he has more tracks for TMNT than I have ever seen. Anyone knowledgeable about his music able to give a rundown on what was previously unavailable?

A heads up to anyone with.. interesting 'skills'.
On his FTP is complete versions of most of his scores + the accompanying sheets.

A heads up to anyone with.. interesting 'skills'.
On his FTP is complete versions of most of his scores + the accompanying sheets.

Nice! :D

Thanks for the heads up. :)

A heads up to anyone with.. interesting 'skills'.
On his FTP is complete versions of most of his scores + the accompanying sheets.

Hmmm...seems like I've got something to do this weekend :naughty:

Hmmm...seems like I've got something to do this weekend :naughty:

This is what ive heard. I havent totally investigated for myself other than things hes sent me from there which arent public.

Ok, so about skills. At present, my skill set seems to mostly take me to around 128. Sometimes better. Is this due to the encoding on the link, or is there a way to get better rates with the ripper?

If that's what you're finding on the link, (as in grabbing the files rather than recording them with some program) then yeah it's what the link provides.
Some sites I've seen provide both mp3 and wav formats.
the mp3's can vary a lot.
but if you're not finding anything higher than that, the only way to get better bitrates is to ask the peeps to provide you with higher bitrates :laugh:

Most sites I've seen that have previews usually go about 128.
Some really nice, rare occassions i've seen 320 :) but that's extremely rare :sad:

I quite liked The Promise. Very pleasant and epic (and I'm NOT just using this word to describe a comic book movie).

I think Rescue Dawn (http://youtu.be/ZjkslIg9hoY) is HIGHLY underrated.

K-19: The Widowmaker and The Time Machine has some nice bits in them too.

Ok: I like "The Promise" and "Rescue Dawn"! Listening to some promise in the morning ;)... now switched to the rescue... straight on to the ipod....

Ok, so about skills. At present, my skill set seems to mostly take me to around 128. Sometimes better. Is this due to the encoding on the link, or is there a way to get better rates with the ripper?
It all depends on the original encoding rate.

Those 'skills' are not the skills I was referring to tho haha.

@sparktank
You are so right about the audio of Sherlock.
Something is off.
I will have to check the film to see how Bates'
Conan works in the picture.


@everybody

Talking Klaus Badelt, you should check out the following
scores if you want to get straight to the essential stuff:

- Equilibrium: The featured synth choir is amazing.
- Ultra-Violet If you want to hear Badelt in full, advanced, experimental action mode. Big fun!
- Rescue Dawn: Serious shit, but a masterpiece in it's own right
- Premonition: Includes the sweetest tune for piano imaginable; I'm not a sucker for sob stories,
but in my book, this one's a winner
- Time Machine: Mainly for it's classic time travel cues, the rest is ripped of from Thin Red Line.
- The Pledge: Ambient thing; very ambient, you know. But has a few cues of enormous beauty.
- The Promise: Exotic touches for those who need a vacation quickly; well done, but a bit too
long on album

One to avoid: Poseidon, at all cost! And every movie title Badelt composed beginning with an 'S'.
S is for shit.

But I'm not completely through with his recent output (mostly
sequels, spin-offs and some cheap run-of-the-mill cheap fantasy/
action crap). Tell me if I missed another good one!

I don't agree on the S thing. I really enjoyed what he did on Solomon Kane. the score carries a nice, nostalgic but also mystic and dark, often sad tone, and works very well both in the movie and listened on the side. matter of fact, what he did on Equilibrium and on Solomon Kane changed my opinion on him.

I also hear the Badelt cowrote the score of Starship Troopers 3, I dont think that movie was so much of creative stretch.

@docrate1

I skipped "Solomon Kane". Probably because there
is an 'S' in it. Thank you for recommending it!

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Thanks, NC Aden.


Experiment for the general public, who never
got what's the point about Jablonsky, Zimmer
and the Remote Control lot:


Try this:

Have you ever tried to watch a Transformers
movie, with sound off, but accompanied by
your favorite John Williams action score from
the 70's, 80's, maybe early 90's? Mind the
speed, and which thing is slowing the other
thing down?

Another one:
Watch Pirates of the Caribbean, putting
Korngold under it. What happens? Do you
realize why they've chosen a more rock
flavoured score instead the classic pirate
music that would have been on the nose?

Try to watch the whole finale of "Troy",
with Miklos Rozsa's El Cid playing in the
background. What do you notice, beyond
the logical anachronisms?

Watch Jurassic Park with the LOTR-
music by Howard Shore underneath.
Will that match? Or is it odd, throwing
you out of the experience?

Or Inception. Find music that matches
with the images, out of your Jerry Gold-
smith library.

It's not about the composition and the
quality of the music as such. It's about
finding a style that fits those new films.

All what Jablonsky, Badelt, Zimmer, Bates,
Gregson-Williams are trying to achieve in
the first place, is coming up with a style
that helps the images and the particular
film without pulling the audience out of
the movie.

For them, it's secondary if their scores
can stand up alone on Cd or record. And
these people are at the top of their game
right now. They pay them a lot of money
for that.

It will be tough to find a better score for
Inception than the one Hans has written.

LOL!


post script:

Understanding the process of scoring will
at least help you to understand WHY they
score movies like this today - as opposed
to the ones from the golden or silver age.

My whole point is: If once you've come to
appreciate this effort, you will also be able to
enjoy modern scores a good deal more!

Heres my thing, I love Zimmer and his compadres. If I had to name my favorite Film Score Composers it would be Williams, Zimmer, Poledouris, and Danny Elfman. I think its good to appreciate the older stuff as well as appreciate new talent. The flaw in your argument in changing the audio is that a film score is supposed to fit a movie individually and the problem with a lot of people about the modern composers is that if you did change the audio (with a few exceptions) they would fit perfectly thus sounding eerily similar. Personnaly the only modern composer I really have a problem is Tyler Bates. Its not his fault about the 300 score (it was supposedly a directoral and producer decision to use temp samples permenatly) but compare him to Zimmer and there is a big discrepensy. It would seem that Bates has really never got a chance to branch out with his skill set because he always only does big movies. Zimmer's early movies are unheard of in most cases but he got a lot of experience along the way. Final point, just because you enjoy modern composers that doesnt mean you have to dislike the older composers (and vice versa).

@ N-10 Aden

Exactly.
I enjoy the new masters as much as the older
champions as well as the lords of the golden
age. They all have in common that they all had
to reinvent their craft to match the changing
environment.

But this was not meant to be an argument. It
is meant to be a TEST. Try it. It's the best way
to approach it. By experimenting with different
audio tracks.

I never said that I really like what Tyler Bates
does now. He wrote some fun and highly
memorable music for Californication. Time will
tell what style will emerge from his talent. The
potential is there. In 14 years we will be
hunting down Cd's like "Slithers" or "Conan",
like we were possessed, just because we will
have realized at some point, years after Tyler's
big break, that he wrote some interesting stuff
in the past, buried under a pile of crap.

And that past is happening now.

I was wrong, calling Mr John Williams a hack. I
give you that. What I meant was, to put it more
precisely, is:
John Williams' voice has become stark. It has lost
its immediate effectiveness in the theatre. Certainly
not on record, as pure music. But on the big screen,
it just didn't survive the second part of the 90's.

experience is the best teacher, the learning never stops till we are dead'ish, to say that the older composers are being left out just because they're are getting older is plain @#%%%. sure the future of film scoring will be left on the hands of the younger gens or talents we have but it is their predecessors who had in one way or another shape, influenced, trained, guide, or inspired them in the first place and that comparison with the movies you mentioned as opposed to the "what if the likes of the greats of john, joe, mary etc - where to do them instead" then i'd be damned if they won't even do their assignments just to conform to what the film really needed or as what the suits are wanting to hear that would ultimately fit the film itself....

needless to say. never mind.

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i'm off to a par-ty!

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peace out.

That is epic lol.

@IamBugz

Does a score produced 16 years ago and
older still sound CONTEMPORARY to your
ears?

Say, if we had a time machine, and we
travelled back to Hollywood in the 1950's...

QUESTION:

What if ...
we could convince Miklos Rozsa to compose
the soundtrack for TRANSFORMERS 3. Which
particular style would he come up with?

I think the movies dictate 80% of what
the music has to sound like in the finished
product. Having worked in the field for
some time, I know the process.

ANSWER:

Facing the film, and looking at the strange new
equipment in his modern office, Rozsa would do
exactly the same thing as Jablonsky.

Just with theremins.

@ N-10 Aden

Exactly.
I enjoy the new masters as much as the older
champions as well as the lords of the golden
age. They all have in common that they all had
to reinvent their craft to match the changing
environment.

But this was not meant to be an argument. It
is meant to be a TEST. Try it. It's the best way
to approach it. By experimenting with different
audio tracks.

I never said that I really like what Tyler Bates
does now. He wrote some fun and highly
memorable music for Californication. Time will
tell what style will emerge from his talent. The
potential is there. In 14 years we will be
hunting down Cd's like "Slithers" or "Conan",
like we were possessed, just because we will
have realized at some point, years after Tyler's
big break, that he wrote some interesting stuff
in the past, buried under a pile of crap.

And that past is happening now.

I was wrong, calling Mr John Williams a hack. I
give you that. What I meant was, to put it more
precisely, is:
John Williams' voice has become stark. It has lost
its immediate effectiveness in the theatre. Certainly
not on record, as pure music. But on the big screen,
it just didn't survive the second part of the 90's.

I get what your doing now but I still dont get what you mean. As bad as the Star Wars prequels were all the music was great, in any context the piece played during order 66 conveys more sorrow than some of the most depressing pieces of music where as His original themes for the Harry Potter movies 1-3 are still very memorable.Why should someone change their style just to sound contemporary? No one cares how it holds on its own compared to later things, its about its quality for all of time. Just because a score doesnt use guitar, thundering bass, and loads of synth should it be considered old fashioned.

Just listen to ROTS, cue 'Padme's Ruminations'.
It's clearly Williams channeling Zimmer. GLADIATOR,
to be exact.

Mr Williams adjusted his style on various occasions.
The choir thing from Empire of the Sun, for example,
was produced this way after they gave him Morricone's
The Mission, as a temp track.
And you can clearly tell that The Lion King score was
hot when they recorded the music for Amistad ten
years later.

Filmmakers care for the moment only - the span when
the film runs in theatres, for the first time. As long as
it is effective and oozes some kind of quality.

I've never said that everything turns out to be gold,
however.

Okay! Back to work.#

I have done that Mr. Persnickety (er...Schenectady), Its called RESCORING and it usually, if you pick the right score cues, fits like a glove, all roads lead to rome, and so do all composers have a certain style that works for handling horror etc.

check out some sometime.

Schenectady is not out of line, or persnickety. He is making observations, which we may disagree with. Ultimately, composers are hired to do a job, to complement and follow a director's vision. Movies these days are a different breed, and I do doubt that 90's styles would work. The thing is, Mr. Williams et al would definitely adjust were they hired for that job. I dislike recent scores. The do fit the movies they are for. In that sense, they are successful, but, I actually dislike most of the modern actiom film styles. So, for me it is a lose/lose.

?

For example..Jaws. The memorable shark theme came about out of necessity. The mechanical shark did not work as planned. So William's music was used to represent the missing shark. When the jaws theme is played, the shark is involved, if not seen. It is never played out of connection with the shark. So when that snorkeler with shark fin swims into the bay, we do not hear the shark theme, because it ws not there.

Now, if Jaws was being filmed for the first time today, there would be no need for the shark to be represented that way. CGI would make the shark easy to represent. The original was a happy failure. The lack of a working effect forced the director to adapt, and a better film and score resulted. But today, ...the temptation would likely be to show the attacks in all of their grisly glory.

Ridley Scott Making Blade Runner 2 - Movies News at IGN (http://movies.ign.com/articles/118/1188867p1.html)
New Blade Runner movie, Lets speculate on the score. Would be nice change of pace.

@babydoll

So true.

And if you think about it: What Williams did was he was essentially composing music for some rubber shark that was kept invisible for most of the screen time. The result was an instant, but also a long-term classic! Music to be listened to for decades. Many composers have to score very simple things, in the beginning. Progressing from that, the devil is in the detail.

Watch "Ransom", for example. The film features a plane, much snow and Sean Connery acting poorly. There is no action whatsoever or decent plot in the film, which was pretty boring to begin with. What Jerry Goldsmith did: He painted out this huge, empty canvas, with his fascinating textures, rythms and melodies, as if he was scoring something of worth, something only he could see. You have to see the film to appreciate that. At the end of the day, this is still an art form, modern trends aside.

I'm still wondering why nobody ever thought of doing a remake of Jaws. With Gerard Butler as Quint. A female Chief Brody. Jesse Eisenberg as Hooper. 45 sharks. Directed by Zach Snyder.

It's about time!

If they announce Tyler Bates for the score, i'm opening a suscribtion to hire an assassin.;)

If they announce Tyler Bates for the score, i'm opening a suscribtion to hire an assassin.;)

I think Ridley Scott would eat his own shit before hiring Bates, he will probably go to Vangelis but I dont know if Vangelis is still active.

Well, it is true that film styles have changed over the years. A younger crowd is more used to this style. All CGI, loud noise, frenetic action shots, and "hand-held" look. It seems almost too...easy these days. Want a 25 foot Great White? Easy. Wand a multitude of alien ships, piece of cake. But I still maintain Jaws and Close Encounters are superior to films made today. But, If Spielberg had had access to CGI, how would the films been different? As for say, Williams, he was asked to bring certain flavors to the scores. Lucas was very clear on the sound he wanted for the Stat Wars films, and the Raiders films. Spielberg had very diffinite tastes for Jaws and Close Encounters. And, the directors of Superman wanted a serious, dramatic grown up score for the film, while still being very bold, and heroic. No mean feat. To this day, superhero films have not really managed to top that, they only hope--hope--to emulate it.

It is no different these days, I bet. But, newer directors are needing a different sound, for a different audience. That's business, and the first and most important job of a score. In the 70's and 80's, these directors saw the score as another actual character in the film, and the scores were dramatic, with identifiable themes, to augment said film. They were MEANT to stand out. Today's scores are more atmospheric, meant to augment a scene's mood while still remaining fairly transparent. No identifiable theme to hum, not so brassy and obvious. Not MY thing, but I grew up in the 70's and 80's and those are the scores that hooked mw in the first place....

We are on the same page, Mam.

One shouldn't make the mistake, though, to close
the book and stop to be open for new good things,
even if they are hard to locate under piles of care-
lessly made crap.

On the other hand: If you are open to anything,
your brains will fall out!

Well, yea. If i blocked it all out, I would not have fallen in love with the Kraken theme on Dead Man's Chest. I feel it is essentially the shark theme in Jaws modernized, and a bit more frenzied. As one example. I am by no means against new experiences. And, modern scores do fit the movies. Take the rework of Clash of the Titans. As disappointed I was by that score (and more so the movie), it worked FOR the movie. I love the original scores, but that style would never fly within the new film's framework. :)

I think Ridley Scott would eat his own shit before hiring Bates, he will probably go to Vangelis but I dont know if Vangelis is still active.

As much as I love his music I hope he doesn't do the new score...why you ask? Because of his egomaniacal attitude the original score wasn't released until twelve years later and in my opinion it was botched leaving a lot of key cues out which is why so many bootlegs have popped up over the years.

I think Tangerine Dream should score the new version because they haven't scored a film in almost a decade and I think with their current lineup of members it would be phenomenal! But then again I am very biased. :D

That is true. This movie (other than Scott) will have cast and crew wise very little to do with Blade Runner 1 (never thought I would say that). Ford's not coming back, Young more than likely isnt, Mako is dead, and unless its in a flashback Rutger Hauer wont be in it. Im not familiar with tangerine dream but maybe your right they can do it. I can't think of very many synth musicians at the monment. It would be bad if Vangelis did this one but I wasnt saying on prefrence, Scott has a tendency repeatedly work with composers. Unless its like the same thing with Scott and Ford I dont know of many problems Scott had with Vangelis.

Tangerine dream would indeed be a nice alternative to Vangelis. But I would be curious to hear what some young composers like Brian Tyler (yeah, big fan here) would do. but, let's be honest, if there is indeed a sequel to blade runner, it will have to be more connected to its time, so I guess the music would go to RCP. (I know Zimmer is not really favoured around here right now because of his piss-poor work on POTC4, but I would love to hear what he would come up with for blade runner. The man knows how to use synths very well, and in very modern ways, and teamed up with someone else with a more "classical" background, like he was with Newton Howard for the two Nolan's batman, he could do something pretty impressive.

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That is true. This movie (other than Scott) will have cast and crew wise very little to do with Blade Runner 1 (never thought I would say that). Ford's not coming back, Young more than likely isnt, Mako is dead, and unless its in a flashback Rutger Hauer wont be in it. Im not familiar with tangerine dream but maybe your right they can do it. I can't think of very many synth musicians at the monment. It would be bad if Vangelis did this one but I wasnt saying on prefrence, Scott has a tendency repeatedly work with composers. Unless its like the same thing with Scott and Ford I dont know of many problems Scott had with Vangelis.

Is Ford's decision definitive ? I'm not that sure. his career recently isn't going that well, as the last indy was so-so. But he looks awesome in Cowboy & Aliens.

Just wikipedia Blade Runner and Harrison Fords relation with Blade Runner. He absolutely hated working on BR, hated working with Scott, and hated having to do narration. I cant remember everything right now.

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Plus what Ford does now is kinda just some fun till retirement methinks.

It is nice to read this discussion, now I have to say something. Ridley Scott is surely the prototype of the director "the music quality is relatively unimportant, the main thing unremarkable". Goldsmith's ALIEN - partly rejected, Goldsmith's LEGEND - replaced by this 80's electro-rubbish. Vangelis music for Blade Runner is perfect, but 1492? I think it's a disaster in every aspect. A now the Zimmer Connection. Marc Streitenfeld's composing style is expressed friendly, discreet.
My choise for Prometheus would be Joel Goldsmith. And for Blade Runner? Who the hell wants to see a second part? The story is told ...
But who knows what the future brings. Perhaps comes from somewhere a composer we did not have on the bill.

Tangerine Dream? Why not Giorgio Moroder or Harold Faltermeyer? I think there's a reason why no one is more like it ... Sorry, i think a movie needs good music. All that creepy 80's stuff ... childhood memories, nothing more.

Experimental music is almost entirely disappeared, no one tried out more new. Anyone with a keyboard thinks he is a composer. Greetings to Tyler Bates.
I miss scores like Planet Of The Apes or Logans Run. In recent years, producers and directors tend to boring music, Gabriel Yared's Troy is the best example. A perfect score replaced by what? A routined Horner. Not bad, but exchangeable.

that's my feeling ...

Ill have high hopes for the movie as long as digital effects are kept at a minimum and its not a direct sequel, remake, or prequel. Im fine with it being in the same universe.

So thanks for mentioning Badelt's The Promise. Don't know why I never tried it before since I like Hero, House of Flying Daggers, Crouching Tiger, etc. Really good stuff.

I like Badelt's "Pour Elle" a lot too and - as mentioned - "The Pledge".

:)

Tangerine Dream? Why not Giorgio Moroder or Harold Faltermeyer? I think there's a reason why no one is more like it ... Sorry, i think a movie needs good music. All that creepy 80's stuff ... childhood memories, nothing more.


If you have heard TD since the 80's then you would know their sound has continued to evolve which in no way resembles their experimental roots as heard on their first seven albums.

If you have heard TD since the 80's then you would know their sound has continued to evolve which in no way resembles their experimental roots as heard on their first seven albums.

Yes, i know. But i think a new Blade Runner movie needs a new, modern point of view. TD is a child of the 80's. Still good music for the audience.
Perhaps a symbiosis like Daft Punk's TRON Legacy. Or something unexpected.
I really like John Williams. But his music in movies like Bourne? Don't think so. Time has changed, the new century needs new composers, new style, new faces.
Something i've never heard of.

TBH, I wish Jesper Kyd would score the new BR. He has enough chops in synth and orchestration that most film composers dont have imo. But that will never happen :sad:

I'd toss Moby into the mix. Let him explore his inner darkness and expand upon his all ready interesting textural designs.

TBH, I wish Jesper Kyd would score the new BR. He has enough chops in synth and orchestration that most film composers dont have imo. But that will never happen

Not a bad idea. A cooperation between several composers would be of interest. Powell for the action, Zigman for emotion, Shapiro for funk, conducted and mixed by ...

I'd toss Moby into the mix. Let him explore his inner darkness and expand upon his all ready interesting textural designs.

I would second that but he tends to be repetitive (Like TD during the 70's) which is annoying but I do like much of his music.

How about David Arkenstone? another very talented composer who already has a few soundtracks under his belt.

Robot Wars
Frontier
World Of Warcraft: Taverns Of Azeroth
Emperor: Battle for Dune

How about David Arkenstone? another very talented composer who already has a few soundtracks under his belt.
@ Zoran
You really like the 80's.sexpot

A bit too esoteric for my taste.

so i was listening to the score of battle of terra, and noticed it lacked... A LOT.
specially the main theme, a complete OST has yet to be released.
goddamn poles, unreleasing mah osts!

Im not going to lie I have no Idea what Battle for Terra is but I still dont see why labels release incomplete scores.

@ Zoran
You really like the 80's.sexpot

A bit too esoteric for my taste.

Arkenstones first two albums came out in the 80's but the bulk of his material came out in the 90's and 2k's. You seem to think that anyone who happened to be in the music business in the 80's as specific genre from which they will never escape despite changes in personnel and musical styles.

If you are a purist when it comes to traditional scores I have some favorites there too but I think the new BR should at least be electronic as a not to what came before.

maybe youll find clips in youtube, or perhaps the entire movie? i suggest you look at the first videos if so. that "nice e.t-like music" is what im talking about.

I have some favorites there too but I think the new BR should at least be electronic as a not to what came before.
... agreed.

I've heard some of his compositions for pc games. And my point is i do not remember anything of it, unfortunately.

Some of Arkenstones work...
David Arkenstone - Oceanus from Myths and Legends - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8L7pruaYI4)
David Arkenstone - Song of Sheherazade from Myths and Legends - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raXf45NxKeU)
David Arkenstone - The Dragon's Breath - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tdt0oVQkA)
David Arkenstone - Secret on the Moors from Echoes of Light And Shadow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfRV0dIHcLc)

Some of TD's work in recent years...
Tangerine Dream - The Silver Boots of Bartlett Green (2011) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KNW0jMxs_k)
Tangerine Dream - Live at the Spandau Citadell Berlin 2009 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8gawRHqTc)
TANGERINE DREAM ORIENTAL HAZE SHEPHERDS BUSH EMPIRE - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DZzUAu_5s4)
Tangerine Dream, Kiev Mission (Remake 2009) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms6Jo7VUNRg)

Thank you. 'll hear it through ...

Normally, I am not enthused by the electronic music. As a matter of fact, I dislike the scores for both Tron and Blade Runner, as stand alone listens, though both worked terrifically in their respective films. for more experimental stuff like that, see also Doctor Who from 66 all the way up to mid 80's. But, as much as I might pine for an old fashioned score, I think too that a very experimental, TEXTURAL and themeless score is the way to go with any Blade Runner movie.

I hated Tron 1's score tbh, but I love just listening to BR's score. But your right they are far better with the movie. I hope that the new BR has new themes and new methods and doesnt rehash Vangelis themes.

Demonoid is a torrent site. i used to go there before i knew about direct download links.
it had a moderate sized selection of soundtracks.
It's steadily increasing in lossless material. but most of it can be found from direct download links first.
only a fraction of original content shows up there.
i've seen some vinyl rips on torrents sites long before they showed up in shrine.

i barely go there anymore.

Actually, I am interested in free programs and some tips on editing my tv themes compilation. Trying to minimize the volume differences, and perhaps trim a bit here and there. I have never tried anything like that, though.

Also, does anyone know of a free flv converter, that is good? Mine I guess is a trial thing, about to expire..

I never thought I could find a place where I could comfortably weep into my black forest cake.

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Anybody of the excite for the new LOTR Symphony 2-disc album (http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Symphony-21st-Century/dp/B005FNJL7K/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1313801979&sr=1-8) coming out soon?

I am.

I don't normally pre-order a lot of albums I know are going to be on the shelf at my local HMV but this one gets me giddy.

cool shit! im definitely going to look into that!

Babydoll. you can try Audacity, it's free.
You can also look for one they call Goldwave (not free, but i use it).

Adobe audition (not free) is pretty much king, but i find it's functions to be a little more advanced.
i still haven't updated to the newest version out there.

I'd recommend Audacity first. It seems to do quite well all around.

Audicity is great.

It's pretty much all I need to get the job done.

...and it's fairly simple to use once you get the hang of it.

I never thought I could find a place where I could comfortably weep into my black forest cake.

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Anybody of the excite for the new LOTR Symphony 2-disc album (http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Symphony-21st-Century/dp/B005FNJL7K/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1313801979&sr=1-8) coming out soon?

I am.

I don't normally pre-order a lot of albums I know are going to be on the shelf at my local HMV but this one gets me giddy.

If there was one thing I would preorder in a heartbeat it would be a Lalaland release of The Lost World of Jurassic Park, they couldnt take my money fast enough lol

BTW Audacity is very user friendly even my dumbass figured it out :p

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Vangelis music for Blade Runner is perfect, but 1492? I think it's a disaster in every aspect.

WHY? Not mad, just shocked. 1492 was the very first Vangelis CD I ever bought, so it has sentimental value for me and it turned me on to his other works.

Thinking back on the announcement of Scott working on a second blade runner movie, I was thinking earlier today, why not asking Daft punk ? they did a pretty nice job on Tron:Legacy , even if they had the help of Bruce Broughton for the orchestration, I think.

That or go for a japanese composer, like Taku Iwasaki (Not much chance of this one happening).

WHY? Not mad, just shocked. 1492 was the very first Vangelis CD I ever bought, so it has sentimental value for me and it turned me on to his other works.
It is difficult to explain this because English is not my native language. From my perspective it is important to see how the music changed over the years. Blade Runner was made 30 years ago and the score still sounds modern.
1492 was made 20 years ago and what i feel is " uuh boring, sounds like an esoteric symposium".
What reminds you after many years? that sounds not aged? From a sentimental value i like 1492, from an artistic point of view no.

A few weeks ago I watched Transformers 3 at the cinema, incredible cgi, great entertainment. Today I can hardly remember it. And why? There is nothing more, only a good looking movie without any soul.
The same can be said of Steve Jablonsky's score. The music has an accompanying function, nothing more.

Blade Runner was an experiment and became a milestone and the music too. Vangelis work for 1492 is too functional, no new ideas. A copy of his older works. Good to listen, nothing more.


I was thinking earlier today, why not asking Daft punk ?
That's my point ...

Damn easy to read post for English not being your native language.

I certainly get what benuit is trying to convey.

I listened to Goldsmith's PSYCHO 2 the other day,
for the first time since ages, and it sounded like
old time radio. It's become so dated it made me
laugh.

While MR BASEBALL is still a masterpiece, certainly
Goldsmith's best score since WARLOCK.

I like Goldsmith's The Shadow. It's really nice to listen to when walking the streets.
Every time I see a construction site or a demolished lot, I always want to grab a stranger and point at it and say "the clouded mind sees nothing".

Well, you CAN be more modern, use a modern style, and still be interesting AND distinctive. Since I am a tv score junkie. I will use examples from there. The Mentalist, by Neely, is a perfectly modern style. Very transparent, almost minimal, barely noticed to most. But, the score on an album is beautiful. And, there is nothing else on right now that sounds like it. Any scene, any episode, hear it, and you know what it is. The same was true for McCreary's Galactica. And LoDuca's Xena. You can be modern, and not be boring.

And, thanks for audacity. I am having fun playing...

i LOVE McReary's percussion in his Galactica series!

"Fringe" has an exciting score, no matter if it's from Tilton,
Seiter, or Giacchino. Perfectly suits me, walking around in
lower parts of the town, looking for love.

"The Shadow" was and is cool! "The Poppy Fields", the cue
title alone, gives me the shivers when I walk down to the
abandoned airfield, looking for salvation.

But what I enjoy most is listening to McCreary's "Galactica",
especially "A Promise to Return", when walking around killing
people in their backyards, shooting them in the head.

My all time favorite. The musical journey from "The Simpsons". 20 years of really wonderful tv music scoring.

@benuit

Yeah! Featuring the Simpsons tune variations,
such as the little known Simpsons Hill Street
Blues variant, the JFK version, the Cuban, the
Australian, the Vegas, Renaissance and, last
but not least, the "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad
world" version!

I love giving birth listening to these tunes, after
having impregnated myself.

I think it was Badalamenti's Twin Peaks that was the first TV score to catch my attention.

The X-Files, MillenniuM, Buffy, Angel, Prison Break, BSG, Carnivale, LOST and Fringe were all favorites too.

Walter Murphy & Ron Jones also seem to hand in some surprisingly impressive music on Family Guy.

@Schenectady

Yes, great stuff. Especially all the musical references ...

AND Star Trek TNG. Dennis McCarthy, Ron Jones, Jay Chattaway, milestones in
tv scoring.

Just out curiosity what was the first score all of you owned and your earliest memories?

Mother bought me a double LP of Williams "Star Wars" (along with Tchaikovsky's "The Nutcracker") when I was a wee lad. That must have been '83 or '84.

It wasn't untill '88 that I bought my first score with my own money. :) Elfman's "Beetlejuice" on cassette....followed by Silvestri's "Roger Rabbit".......

.......then it all spiraled out of control from there.

that was a little early for you, with me it comes a little later but i always have fond memories of listening to John Williams' Superman Score. :)

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despite fully enjoying the modern "influenced" styles of today's film scores from the likes of Brian Tyler, Ramin Djawadi, Michael Giacchino, Jason Graves (VGM Score), Bear MccReary, Ilan Eshkeri, Alexandre Desplat, Steve Jablonsky, and more..., classic film scores never seizes to amaze me as each of them had in one way or the other defined a particular era or timeline. Erich Wolfgang Korngold, Max Steiner, Elmer Bernstein, Hugo Friedhoffer, Ennio Morricone, Nino Rota, Bernard Herrmann, Akira Ifukube is a personal favorites. not to forget the likes of Basil Poledouris, John Williams, David Raksin, Jerry Goldsmith, Lalo Schifrin, Alan Silvestri, John Barry all have a lots of memorable theme's or score that is a regular staple for my playlist.
It wont stop there as I also enjoy's the music coming from the Anime' scores with the likes of equally great composers like Joe Hisaishi, Taro Iwashiro, Kohei Tanaka, Shiro Sagisu and Naoki Sato(u) to name a few.
With that I had to add that even scores coming from Animated superhero toon's of orchestral form popularized by the late great Shirley Walker (who in my opinion deserves to be recognized among the greats of film scores as well as the proponent for the recognition that women composers can be just great too) with her scores on Batman The Animated Series and the equally memorable orchestral theme for Superman the Animated series. That's where the names like Lolita Ritmanis, Michael McCuistion, Christopher Drake, James Venable, Guy Michelmore, Robert J. Kral is a must to listen for me.
Whenever i listen to score, i try to look for it's own merit as a stand alone music. if it does/doesn't suit me then there's always the perspective of listening to it with reference to the film itself on whether or not it gives justice to the film or not.
In whether it's less than perfect, good, great, mediocre to the opinion of other folks, it doesn't bother me for as long as I enjoyed it and somehow felt what the music is trying to convey on whether it should be for fight, fright, aggression, joy, anger, excitement, bewilderment, etc.

My first owned album s were the double lp's for Star Wars and Empire. I had been checking them out of the local library, I had STTMP on a more or less permanent loan....but, the music to first hook me, especially for tv score, was The Six Million Dollar Man. (YES, I watched them is first run rotations...), and to this day I can hum many of the underscore pieces. It is a shame non of that has ever been released.