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RJ1979
05-03-2012, 07:00 AM
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Thanks :). I've heard of it but never looked into it until now, so that is nice to know.

There is also a beautiful piece of music heard during the statue of liberte scene. I've never been able to find a "legit" fan edit of it.

Yeah I'd love that piece too and the films version of "Rose". I always hated the way the album version kicked straight in with the penny whistle unlike the film. Sissel's vocals are altered too, I'm sure.

JHFan
05-03-2012, 06:57 PM
What the FUCK is going on with this board?

My post showed up twice so I edited the second one to remove it, and instead my ORIGINAL LONG POST is gone?

Fucking hell.

What I was going to say was (in much shorter form now that it's all gone) :


Yeah I'd love that piece too and the films version of "Rose". I always hated the way the album version kicked straight in with the penny whistle unlike the film. Sissel's vocals are altered too, I'm sure.

The film version edited out the opening whistle, and also replaced the synth choir with piano (rather it was dropped from the mix). That's why the harp is easier to hear in the film than on the album, and they tweaked the mix in the film to make Sissel's vocals softer in the second half.


I don't know , I remember that there were few lines between jack and rose , I think jean backer is the most qualify on the technical aspects

Hardly the only one "qualified", so I'll answer that question and provide a sample as I've deconstructed the film's mix many times:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v39ffl

This is a direct rip of the front stereo channels of music for the "sketch", performed by Horner himself.

There is NO music in the rear channels during this scene and also none in the center channel with the small amount of dialogue.

This music was never meant to be in the film anyway, so it wasn't recorded with an elaborate 5.1 mix or anything of the sort. Cameron stuck it in the film but it was basically a demo Horner recorded himself for a different scene and titled it piano 'sketch', which Cameron mistakenly thought was for this scene.

Notice the "Back To Titanic" version Horner performed was different? That's because Horner objected to Cameron's insistence on using his rough performance in the film because he felt his playing wasn't very good. He offered to have a professional pianist record it instead but Cameron rightfully made the call that Horner's rough sketch of music - imperfections and all - were perfect for Jack's rough sketch of Rose. Also it was more personal that Horner's own performance was right there over such an intimate scene.

There is an ambient 'hiss' sound in this clip of music, which you hear throughout any scene inside the ship before it hit the iceberg. Most indoor scenes have this sound in addition to ticking clocks, faint music from Titanic's band in the distance and occasionally a low rumble probably from the ship's engines.

I've only boosted the overall volume on that clip. I've not done any filtering to it.

Faleel
05-03-2012, 07:21 PM
I hope the Blu-ray has it in 7.1 then..

JHFan
05-03-2012, 07:26 PM
I hope the Blu-ray has it in 7.1 then..

What do you mean?

The music is not going to be changed for a 7.1 mix, especially this cue which was recorded and presented in the film as simple left-right stereo.

The only thing a 7.1 mix will add are more directional sound effects, and with this film chances are it will be the same 6.1 mix the DVD had, only lossless.

Faleel
05-03-2012, 07:48 PM
Well, the Jurassic Park Blu-rays had two extra channels, which had cleaner music (still reverby though) so I was going by my experience ripping those.

dsguardian
05-04-2012, 06:04 AM
Hey, here's hoping! Every little bit helps.

By the way, I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo..... I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

RJ1979
05-04-2012, 08:02 AM
Hey, here's hoping! Every little bit helps.

By the way, I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo..... I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

I've been quietly hoping for the same. Like you I know not to keep my hopes up especially as Sony would have to be involved in some capacity. They have a habit of letting us down but maybe this will make up for the lousy soundtrack re release.

JHFan
05-04-2012, 08:08 AM
Hey, here's hoping! Every little bit helps.

By the way, I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo..... I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

The Blu-ray will likely be the same 6.1 mix as the DVD.

There's no way the score gets an isolated presentation, because Sony still has a hand in even that. The reason a lot of scores don't appear on DVD / Blu-ray in isolated form is because the soundtrack labels fear they will lose money if the score is included this way. I know that because the producer of many great DVD special editions (Van Ling, who did the Star Wars DVDs, Terminator 2, The Abyss, Titanic) once mentioned a few years ago that they wanted to do an isolated score on the "Independence Day" DVD (probably the laserdisc before it) but the soundtrack label (RCA Victor) didn't want to lose out on their album sales of the soundtrack.

This also explains why some movies released with isolated scores appear only in certain regions (Glory and Bicentennial Man, both Horner scores appear only on UK edition DVDs) or they are released on early editions but dropped on later ones or their Blu-ray counterparts (Jumanji and Legends Of The Fall, also Horner scores)

Interestingly enough the label that released all those scores as albums?

With the exception of Glory, it's Sony (through Sony Classical and Epic Soundtrax)

RJ1979
05-04-2012, 08:33 AM
The Blu Ray is a new master produced long after the DVD. The sound has been pretty much confirmed as a new 7.1 mix.

dsguardian
05-04-2012, 08:40 AM
Did Sony have anything to do with the iso scores on the Alien Blu Rays?

JHFan
05-04-2012, 08:54 AM
The Blu Ray is a new master produced long after the DVD. The sound has been pretty much confirmed as a new 7.1 mix.

Titanic has not even been announced officially yet. The September 14th US release Amazon put up is all we know so far. Specs like audio, aspect ratio (such as will it be modified for 3D like the IMAX version) have not been confirmed at all yet.


Did Sony have anything to do with the iso scores on the Alien Blu Rays?

Intrada released Alien, Varese released Aliens, MCA (Universal) released Alien 3 and RCA / La-La Land released Alien Resurrection.

theodred27
05-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Titanic has not even been announced officially yet. The September 14th US release Amazon put up is all we know so far. Specs like audio, aspect ratio (such as will it be modified for 3D like the IMAX version) have not been confirmed at all yet.



Intrada released Alien, Varese released Aliens, MCA (Universal) released Alien 3 and RCA / La-La Land released Alien Resurrection.

Well in the case of alien movies we don't need anything else , most of the complete soundtracks were released in one way or another.

Amanda
05-04-2012, 01:02 PM
In the case of Aliens, sort of. I believe all of the score horner wrote is on the Deluxe album, but if you are a completist nutters, there's many a film edit to be done. Anfd the landing prep sequence, not scored by Horner. Though this is on the iso score...

RJ1979
05-04-2012, 01:48 PM
Titanic has not even been announced officially yet. The September 14th US release Amazon put up is all we know so far. Specs like audio, aspect ratio (such as will it be modified for 3D like the IMAX version) have not been confirmed at all yet.



Intrada released Alien, Varese released Aliens, MCA (Universal) released Alien 3 and RCA / La-La Land released Alien Resurrection.

Details for the Czech release have been released. Audio details at least, DTS HD Master Audio 7.1.

I can't imagine the US or Europe/UK ending up with much different, which is why I said pretty much confirmed.

Titanic 3D+2D VRON SPECILN LIMITOVAN SBRATELSK EDICE (Blu-Ray) (http://www.filmarena.cz/blu-ray-titanic-3d-2d-fifteenth-anniversary-special-collectors-edition)

dsguardian
05-04-2012, 09:20 PM
JHFan, thanks for the rip of "The Portrait"! Not bad, much appreciated!

JHFan
05-05-2012, 12:14 AM
Just keep in mind I didn't do anything to it other than make it louder.

If anyone wants to try to filter out some of the "hiss" ambience, there it is ready for editing.

jeanbaker
05-05-2012, 07:06 PM
hello guys! i re-edit the departure music and i added the choir from leaving port, but i changed the pitch and the speed to match it to the movie version as possible! tell me what you think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU

ciaoo! (;

theodred27
05-05-2012, 08:15 PM
hello guys! i re-edit the departure music and i added the choir from leaving port, but i changed the pitch and the speed to match it to the movie version as possible! tell me what you think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU

ciaoo! (;

I think it sounds better , which unreleased music will you do next?

OSTtracker
05-06-2012, 02:34 PM
Hey, guys!

I would have so much to say and answer, but I don't have lot of time unfortunately (so much work!).

So, I just wanted to tell you that I tried to make an edit of "Departure", based upon a previous edit by jeanbaker. All what I did is to make the intro shorter and modify the chorus (chorus from "Departure"). I'm pretty sure that the real track is more high-pitched in the movie, but all my attempts on Audacity really sucked. I'm not very good with that. The transitions are very rude and bad. Sorry for this (but, maybe it's like this in the movie as well...).

Here is the edit :
https://hotfile.com/dl/155152867/fbe256a/03_Departure_(My_Edit).mp3.html

See ya!

Amanda
05-06-2012, 03:25 PM
I love you guys, the music is grand, but I'm out. I just can't cope with ever changing tracks, I'm done. Keep it up though, sounds great. Not sarcasm, it really does sound nice.

jeanbaker
05-06-2012, 03:41 PM
Hey, guys!

I would have so much to say and answer, but I don't have lot of time unfortunately (so much work!).

So, I just wanted to tell you that I tried to make an edit of "Departure", based upon a previous edit by jeanbaker. All what I did is to make the intro shorter and modify the chorus (chorus from "Departure"). I'm pretty sure that the real track is more high-pitched in the movie, but all my attempts on Audacity really sucked. I'm not very good with that. The transitions are very rude and bad. Sorry for this (but, maybe it's like this in the movie as well...).

Here is the edit :
https://hotfile.com/dl/155152867/fbe256a/03_Departure_(My_Edit).mp3.html

See ya!

Nice edit! my compliments! don't worry about the transition! is very difficult to mix them much softly possible! so i think you do a good job! anyway i don't know if you read my previous message! i changed the leaving port choir! and i re-edit the departure track- the difference of the pith in the movie is because all movies are speeded of the 4% more! if you try to get for example the rose theme track and you speed it of 4% more! you'll hear the same track of the movie version, this is because the 24fps of theater version converted for the blockbuster pal version of 25fps. anyway i made the same track of departure with the same velocity of the movie, then you can hear the difference! :) i think the choir of leaving port are the much similar of the movie! or the same but edited.

normal (leaving port choir edited) version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU

movie match pitched version: https://hotfile.com/dl/155158813/a76db66/Departure_Movie_Version.mp3.html

hope you like! :) byee

Lehnaru
05-07-2012, 03:11 AM
hello guys! i re-edit the departure music and i added the choir from leaving port, but i changed the pitch and the speed to match it to the movie version as possible! tell me what you think:

TITANIC Score: Departure (Unreleased) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7XuCOzRxU)

ciaoo! (;

Fantastic job. :)

OSTtracker
05-07-2012, 04:09 PM
Thanks a lot, Jeanbaker for this new edit. It's one of my favorite moments in the score, that's why I'm so eager to find THE good sound for it (the chorus, particularly, but you did such a great job on the whole track!). You are definitely the specialist of the edits for this score. I don't know how you do exactly, but it's really great! Love it! When I think back on all these unrealeased tracks we have thanks to you :
- Southampton 1912
- Departure
- Full speed ahead
- Trapped in E-Deck
- THe Sinking
- Ending

It's so great to listen to this! And that's thank's to you! I hope the Blu-Ray will help us to create the whole complete SFX free score!

theodred27
05-07-2012, 05:43 PM
I hope to hear some news soon , especially first eyes contact.
By the way here it is the music box song played when call gives the heart of the ocean to Rose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X0WUzlr4og&feature=related

Spectre8750
05-08-2012, 05:06 PM
Hey WilliamTaylor

Thanks for the link to the TITANTIC recording sessions. I really appreciate it. I've been looking for this over a month now. Funny how patiance pays and knowing someone who will help out!

Many Thanks

Faleel
05-08-2012, 05:08 PM
Hey WilliamTaylor

Thanks for the link to the TITANTIC recording sessions. I would really appreciate it.

Thanks
Spec

Uhm, he has said before that he cannot.

JHFan
05-08-2012, 07:21 PM
He edited his post and now he's "thanking" William in a different Titanic thread.

Must be a belated April Fools joke because there's little point in lying about something like this.

Faleel
05-08-2012, 07:48 PM
It could be a way for WT to get You-Know-Who off his back.

jeanbaker
05-10-2012, 04:35 AM
Thanks a lot, Jeanbaker for this new edit. It's one of my favorite moments in the score, that's why I'm so eager to find THE good sound for it (the chorus, particularly, but you did such a great job on the whole track!). You are definitely the specialist of the edits for this score. I don't know how you do exactly, but it's really great! Love it! When I think back on all these unrealeased tracks we have thanks to you :
- Southampton 1912
- Departure
- Full speed ahead
- Trapped in E-Deck
- THe Sinking
- Ending

It's so great to listen to this! And that's thank's to you! I hope the Blu-Ray will help us to create the whole complete SFX free score!

But thank you for you like my job! I really appreciate this! (: for the editing i use logic pro, and for the transitions i use garageband! (: you must try this software if you like to make music! You can recreate many sound of orchestra and many instruments! (; but i dont know if you have a mac cus this software runs only on this OS! i will do something for the other tracks soon, for the first eye contact, well i will do it when i'll get the deleted scene from the dvd! Now i dont understand the new post i read before! I dont speak very well english so i cant understand if in that message was some irony or else! But someone has posted the recording session??

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Hey, here's hoping! Every little bit helps.

By the way, I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, but it would still be awesome if they released the Blu Ray with an isolated score, just like with the Alien(s) Blu Rays. Granted, there were other directors and composers involved, but it was Cameron, Horner and Fox, just like Titanic, soo..... I know, I know, probably wishful thinking. Very wishful thinking.

If they do that, we always have to get the isolated channels of the music and remaster it, because for the movie reason they doa realtime mixing of the pan volume level! We have to adjust that, and we have to do a retiming for the 4% of the speed to do a good job! (:

gwent
05-10-2012, 05:11 AM
But someone has posted the recording session??:

Why yes! Another forum member, williamtaylor1969 has DAT reel to reel tapes of the complete sessions. He works for a major Hollywood studio and is good friends with Mr. Horner.

Up till now he has been unable to share them because of his relationship with the studio. But according to another forum poster, inspector gadget, he is sharing them privately. Send him a PM.

I have asked him for a copy as well. If I get it first, I will be happy to share it with you. Just don't tell anyone. We don't want William to get in trouble with the studio for leaking them.

dsguardian
05-10-2012, 07:15 AM
jeanbaker,

Please ignore gwent, he literally hates William Taylor and he's just being sarcastic.

As to whether or not WT has the recording sessions on DAT - who knows? Even if he does, he's said that (for whatever reason) he can't share them. I honestly don't know if he has them or not.

RJ1979
05-10-2012, 07:43 AM
At this point I'm thinking not.

Lehnaru
05-10-2012, 08:10 AM
jeanbaker,

Please ignore gwent, he literally hates William Taylor and he's just being sarcastic.

As to whether or not WT has the recording sessions on DAT - who knows? Even if he does, he's said that (for whatever reason) he can't share them. I honestly don't know if he has them or not.

Well, my hopes have just been shot down... :/

Amanda
05-10-2012, 08:21 AM
Why? William has never not posted something he says he has. I have no factual reason to disbelieve him. Despite everything Gwent has said, William has shared many gems here. It has said he got them elsewhere. Some I have not seen elsewhere, but either way, so what. We all share what we find on-line, no? ALL that matters is that he has shared here, freely, some real gems. What more really matters?

dsguardian
05-10-2012, 10:22 AM
I'm not suggesting he's lying. I'm just speaking 100% honestly - I truly have no earthly idea whether he has them or not. If so, good for him, and I hope they surface someday. (Sony obviously isn't going to share the music.)

And yes, I agree, he has shared some very nice gems, and I appreciate his contributions.

theodred27
05-10-2012, 04:49 PM
Well gwent then give us a proof

Amanda
05-10-2012, 04:55 PM
Why? It will change nothing. We are getting mired in this discussion again. With the same member again. No one has to orove anything. Just let it lay. If gwent causes trouble, his ban will be prm. So what if he thinks he knows William. The threat to reveal personal info is not acceptable. The only way I judge a member here is by how they have acted HERE, and will has been nothing but friendly and helpful. That's the bottom line for me.

JHFan
05-10-2012, 07:31 PM
The threat to reveal personal info is not acceptable. The only way I judge a member here is by how they have acted HERE, and will has been nothing but friendly and helpful. That's the bottom line for me.

Not to mention the obvious but blackmailing someone just to get music is pretty much the dictionary definition of "PATHETIC" anyway.

You have to be pretty sick in the head to do something like that, and personally there is no excuse big enough to justify behavior like that. I should know, because I've gone through the ringer emotionally and physically over the past few months and it isn't nearly over, and it doesn't give me any kind of excuse to behave outside the norm to people face to face or online. It's simple right and wrong. That's as plain as it gets. All I mean by that is no excuse will hold water with someone like me, let alone anyone else here with any sort of right mind.

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Also, just found out that (got to love the timing) Horner's new score for "The Amazing Spider-Man" is going to be released by....

Sony Classical.

The same label responsible for Titanic, and several other Horner score albums. The last Sony Classical Horner release was The Legend of Zorro in 2005.

jeanbaker
05-11-2012, 05:31 AM
I dont know what to say about this Pathetic story! I trust in people and i trust that sometimes are good! But we have to stop with this hypocrisy! Because its only question of time! When i'll get the score i will share it with you! But this is because i think is a right to all fans of titanic that deserve to have it free just only because we loved this movie and this score too much than normal! And dont worry about me or who give me the score because sony is too busy to think of other things than Haunt us with legal reason and spend money and time for this! And all person i knew of this business, well! They are very Ignorant with internet and computers, just a few People are good with this platform! So the thing i wanna say is this! If william or other person has the score, post the link here with everybody! This thing of the pm is only hypocrisy! We are all friends here, stupid web disturber a part!

theodred27
05-12-2012, 11:05 AM
Thank you jean , I hope you are right.

The Dimensioner
05-12-2012, 06:48 PM
If william or other person has the score, post the link here with everybody! This thing of the pm is only hypocrisy! We are all friends here, stupid web disturber a part!

I don't think you understand how this all works.

DAKoftheOTA
05-12-2012, 11:34 PM
I don't think you understand how this all works.

^^^^^

THIS

docrate1
05-13-2012, 01:32 AM
I don't think you understand how this all works.

I have to agree with Dimensioer on this one. Even if William has it, his ties to the industry forbid him to upload. because they just KNOW the leak would come from him and it would cause a shitstorm of epic proportion for the guy. If he feels it's better for him not to post it, then that's his right. Don't think for a single second labels like sony don't have people able to track you if you leak something the size (pardon the pun) of the Titanic score. they have the people to do it, or in the extreme can hire people to find you. they'll find you, and sue your ass before you have the time to say "I'm the king of the world".

You want an advice ? brace yourselves with a lot of patience. Some scores NEVER see the light of day in their film version, even less as a complete score or a complete session set. I could give you a lot of examples, but one big should be enough. Blade Runner. The score is a masterpiece. Yet the "Score" album has significant differences with the film versions, no complete score or recording sessions are available. yet we have close to, oh, 50 different versions of the score, because of fans. only problem, it took 30 years to get the best one, the EMS recombination set. In other words, it may be released one day; or it may not. Unless there are devoted fans willing to recreate the music using synthetizers, or DVDripping sees the arrival of new tool able to sweep off SFX and dialogs, you'll just have to wait.

The Dimensioner
05-13-2012, 03:03 AM
Unless there are devoted fans willing to recreate the music using synthetizers, or DVDripping sees the arrival of new tool able to sweep off SFX and dialogs, you'll just have to wait.

There are people on here who can do both of those things, and I think one of them may even be contributing to this thread (I'm not really a hardcore Titanic fan so I really have no idea what's available and what's being custom-made). But if you ask them to do anything other than what they came here to show off, they'll go mum on the subject and ignore any and all requests.

What astounds me is that there are already 12 pages of thread material of people saying, "I want the complete score to Titanic and people are being unfair. Waahhh!!" and that's already on top of a 16-page thread that followed much the same pattern. From the standpoint of a not-hardcore Titanic fan, I'll be honest: I just don't get the point of this. I mean, is it like a request thread? How come it's not in the requests section?

It would be kind of like me starting a thread up here in the General Discussion entitled "Pirates of the Caribbean Trilogy Complete Score/Recording Sessions Discussion". And all however many pages of it are just going to be people coming here and saying they want it. Occasionally, there's some trolls, and maybe once in a while someone might post something that they made, but other than that, what are the other 11 pages of this thread about?

Also, I was going to add on some more stuff from my previous post, but I think docrate1 pretty much said everything--I'd only be redundant and unnecessary.

dsguardian
05-13-2012, 04:22 AM
Actually, lately this hasn't really been a bitch-and-complain thread. I come here mostly because of the new edits that jeanbaker has provided us with. And if someone's able to do some editing and DVD-ripping (which is probably the best we'll get for a long time), then more power to them.

Amanda
05-13-2012, 04:29 AM
It is General discussion, and this is where he was told to put the thread. It is a thread just for people to talk about the score. That's what they are doing, in the appropriate section of the site. The is NO way to completely eliminate fx from any rip. Many can come close, but no one can do it altogether.


If you don't like the thread, then why are you here. It is not in the download section, just take it off of your suscribed to list and ignore it. Why come in here and piss all over folks who are doing you no harm at all. They were told to start a thread here if they wanted to talk, and they did. So they like the Horner score to Titanic and are passionate. So what, you are the same with pirates and Transformers. Do I tell you it is stupid? No. Although I dislike a lot of what you like. (Inception leaps immediately to mind, causing an urge to vommit and run). So, back off. Start your thread.

Although, TECHNICALLY, they are not supposed to be posting dl links here, but hey, I brought that up before, and admin let it stand. I have my own discussion thread for film here too. That is where all the talk and chit chat in the dl section was SUPPOSED to go. I created it at admin's request, just for that purpose. There are not supposed to be long pages of discussion there.

You should try to know what you are talking about before bitching to people who are doing exactly what the mods told them to do.

dsguardian
05-13-2012, 04:40 AM
Somehow I get the feeling that if the links here were posted in the Download section, people would just start shitting all over it. (Could be wrong, but eventually somebody would start being an ass - "Why aren't these in FLAC?" "Why can't you give us the recording sessions?" "Titanic sucks", blah blah blah)

JHFan
05-13-2012, 08:03 AM
So they like the Horner score to Titanic and are passionate. So what, you are the same with pirates and Transformers. Do I tell you it is stupid? No. Although I dislike a lot of what you like. (Inception leaps immediately to mind, causing an urge to vommit and run). So, back off. Start your thread.

I personally don't get all the Inception love either. Endless edits and rips of that score. You pretty much summed up my take on it. I enjoy the film but the music....well to each their own. When it comes to Christopher Nolan and Hans Zimmer, I prefer to stick solely with Batman.

I've never seen (and have no intention of seeing) either the Pirates of the Caribbean or Transformers movies and have even less of a desire to hear their scores by the Media Ventures / Remote Control crews but more power to their fans who love them. Again it's a to each their own thing.

You are indeed correct - endless threads about those scores and fan edits and arguments and no one says a thing. Any other composers that don't run with the MV / RC crowd and it's all "what's the big deal anyway?"

The Dimensioner
05-13-2012, 07:18 PM
The is NO way to completely eliminate fx from any rip. Many can come close, but no one can do it altogether.


Actually, taking a listen to GauthierG's edit of Transformers 3 begs to argue that point. I've also heard talk that people have discovered a way to honest-to-God remove SFX from Blu-Ray audio, but that's all beside anything that is relevant here.



If you don't like the thread, then why are you here. It is not in the download section, just take it off of your suscribed to list and ignore it. Why come in here and piss all over folks who are doing you no harm at all. They were told to start a thread here if they wanted to talk, and they did. So they like the Horner score to Titanic and are passionate.

What are you going off on me for?! I was just curious. Is it so wrong to be curious? I was just amazed that there are 12 pages of material here and I will admit: I did not read all 12 of them so maybe I'm wrong about the assumptions I made. This thread is not in my subscriptions; I stopped viewing the forum through my subscriptions when I got tired of the fact that no one was talking in any of my threads. I think coming out and exploring the forum has helped me find and learn a lot of things I would have never discovered otherwise. So I deeply apologize that my curiosity got the best of me and I just had to ask one, apparently highly offensive, question.



So what, you are the same with pirates and Transformers. Do I tell you it is stupid? No. Although I dislike a lot of what you like. (Inception leaps immediately to mind, causing an urge to vommit and run). So, back off. Start your thread.

When or where did you get the notion that I thought this thread was stupid? I absolutely and totally accept the fact that there are very passionate Titanic fans out there and I respect that 100%. And I respect that you don't like some of the music that I am very passionate about. What would I go start my own thread over?


You should try to know what you are talking about before bitching to people who are doing exactly what the mods told them to do.

And I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. I now see the word "Discussion" in the thread title, so I understand that the requests section would have been an inappropriate place but where was I BITCHING? I was simply being curious. Apparently, I am the cat here and I was just killed. Now look at this mess. Apparently every goddamn time I go somewhere that I'm clearly not supposed to be, I get beaten to a pulp--but how was I supposed to know I wasn't welcome there?

Alternatively, it sounds like perhaps you should have taken this to the Butthurt thread. I did not mean to cause such an overreaction and am deeply sorry (and I know that could be misinterpreted as sarcasm, but I don't intend it to be).

Lehnaru
05-20-2012, 06:06 AM
Just to break the tension, I made a neat little mix (www.youtube.com/watch?v=B25p-JlBdJM) using jeanbaker's edits, some material from the film, and the album releases. :)

theodred27
05-21-2012, 05:25 PM
Nice one buddy.
I hope to hear some news from jean.

airainix
05-22-2012, 04:03 AM
The good thing about Horner is that you get to hear all his stuff in one soundtrack or another...for example, the "Butterfly" theme can be heard in the track "An Aparition On The Fields" of "The New Wolrd"

theodred27
05-22-2012, 05:01 PM
The good thing about Horner is that you get to hear all his stuff in one soundtrack or another...for example, the "Butterfly" theme can be heard in the track "An Aparition On The Fields" of "The New Wolrd"

I agree with you , Horner is self recycling , He uses sometimes the very same notes and it is really frustrating, though he has made some good score like braveheart titanic alien etc but most of the time he just remix his own stuff.

JHFan
05-22-2012, 06:01 PM
^^Don't like it?

Don't listen.

Don't waste your time.

Also, that 'Butterfly' music is not the same as in 'The New World'. Same piano technique, not the same notes. Not even the same key.

theodred27
05-22-2012, 06:45 PM
^^Don't like it?

Don't listen.

Don't waste your time.

Also, that 'Butterfly' music is not the same as in 'The New World'. Same piano technique, not the same notes. Not even the same key.

Why it does not suprise me? I was sure that someone would reply something like this. I like his stuff , I didnt say I disliked it ; I do listen because there could be new interesting themes , otherwise I wouldnt have listen avatar.
I don't waste my time either it is on listening his music or replying in the forum , so yOU don't waste your time by telling to not waste mine.

airainix
05-22-2012, 07:42 PM
I'm just saying that, even when you can get the real stuff, Horner provides ways to ease the pain. I myself love his work, and Titanic is one of my favorites and I would love to have the Butterfly and specially the Renault scene music, but since I can't...I turn to one of his self-references and twist them with imagination.

OSTtracker
05-26-2012, 02:50 PM
Nice one buddy.
I hope to hear some news from jean.

Yes, I agree with you, Theodred. Personnally, without wanting to be rude, I don't come on this thread to have discussions about "Is it possible to have the official complete or not", or "Is Titanic really a good score compared to...", or else. I already had these discussions before, and it does not move things along. What interests me is the work of JeanBaker, because, for the first time, thanks to him, we have very good material which is an excellent substitution to the official tracks we're not sure to get one day.

So, Jean, we are looking forward listening your next edits!

airainix
05-26-2012, 05:44 PM
Yes, I agree with you, Theodred. Personnally, without wanting to be rude, I don't come on this thread to have discussions about "Is it possible to have the official complete or not", or "Is Titanic really a good score compared to...", or else. I already had these discussions before, and it does not move things along. What interests me is the work of JeanBaker, because, for the first time, thanks to him, we have very good material which is an excellent substitution to the official tracks we're not sure to get one day.

So, Jean, we are looking forward listening your next edits!


The same here!

Lehnaru
05-26-2012, 11:15 PM
I don't know about JeanBaker, but I'm working on the version of The Sinking that was in the film. Here's my first rough edit, for anyone who's interested: Shattered Dreams (Rough Edit #1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5C2j0IiiM)

OSTtracker
05-27-2012, 12:13 AM
Very good edit, Lehnaru, far better than your previous one, if you allow me to say. I really like it. The sound is good, no SFX. I just don't know what to say about the transitions. Jean's ones are better, softer, but what interests me is the exact film version, so, maybe you're closer to the movie than him, or not, I don't know. I shall test with the DVD. But it's a good edit! I added it to my collection! Thanks a lot for sharing!

Lehnaru
05-27-2012, 12:21 AM
Thanks. Yeah, the transitions are nasty, but that's why it's only a rough edit. To be fair to myself, the transitions in the film aren't very pretty either. In the final version, if I have to sacrifice accuracy to the film for smoother transitions, I think I will.

Amanda
05-27-2012, 01:59 AM
Why it does not suprise me? I was sure that someone would reply something like this. I like his stuff , I didnt say I disliked it ; I do listen because there could be new interesting themes , otherwise I wouldnt have listen avatar.
I don't waste my time either it is on listening his music or replying in the forum , so yOU don't waste your time by telling to not waste mine.

Why does it not surprise me that a) someone ALWAYS has to comment on Horner's reuse of themes, when we all have had that discussion millions of times already, and b) this discussion always results in heated responses. Really?

Besides, this discussion thread is not about Horner or his style per se, it is specifiaclly about one score.

JHFan
05-31-2012, 07:14 PM
The Blu Ray is a new master produced long after the DVD. The sound has been pretty much confirmed as a new 7.1 mix.


Details for the Czech release have been released. Audio details at least, DTS HD Master Audio 7.1.

I can't imagine the US or Europe/UK ending up with much different, which is why I said pretty much confirmed.

Titanic 3D+2D VRON SPECILN LIMITOVAN SBRATELSK EDICE (Blu-Ray) (http://www.filmarena.cz/blu-ray-titanic-3d-2d-fifteenth-anniversary-special-collectors-edition)

Specs have been confirmed today, and it's 5.1 DTS-HD.

Titanic 3D Blu-ray (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Titanic-3D-Blu-ray/7548/)

The 3D version is spread over two discs, while the 2D version is on one disc.

Faleel
05-31-2012, 07:27 PM
hmm someone might wanna see if the Czech version could be ripped...

It would be nice if the 5.1 was atleast a remix, but of course thats wishful thinking.

JHFan
05-31-2012, 08:08 PM
hmm someone might wanna see if the Czech version could be ripped...

It would be nice if the 5.1 was atleast a remix, but of course thats wishful thinking.

I never trust international specs, especially ones "pretty much confirmed" because the film wasn't made there, it was made and engineered by Cameron and crew at Fox / Paramount, so what they put out is given to international distributors, and in some cases you'll see cuts to the film made (like in the UK for content) or some Japanese DTS mix where Stateside you'll get just Dolby Digital, but that's just the end result delivery system. An entirely different mix of 7.1 for one or two international markets versus the original 5.1 everywhere else gets?

All I can say is remain skeptical at best.

When they go from "pretty much" to definitive, that's when to start believing, and that won't happen until the discs come out and people can buy them up and find out.

theodred27
06-01-2012, 12:23 PM
The jacket for the blu ray has been released

bandtrumpet7
06-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Now why couldn't *that* have been the poster?

theodred27
06-01-2012, 04:04 PM
Now why couldn't *that* have been the poster?

Well I dont know , may be they wanted something catchy to make the customer pay for the blu ray.
I dont think it is really ugly but I have the impression to see a Perfume gift box set for the valentine's day.

lim2403
06-01-2012, 05:55 PM
I think it's pretty decent. At least the ship looks like Titanic ^^ not like on the cover of the Anniversary Soundtrack. God that was so ugly.

JHFan
06-01-2012, 09:01 PM
The jacket for the blu ray has been released


That's the international release by Fox.

The Paramount cover art has not been confirmed yet. A temp cover has been around for a while, and it's the same poster used for the 3D release and the Anniversary Soundtrack (not the 4-disc). But Paramount hasn't confirmed whether that will be the art or not.

theodred27
06-02-2012, 10:01 AM
That's the international release by Fox.

The Paramount cover art has not been confirmed yet. A temp cover has been around for a while, and it's the same poster used for the 3D release and the Anniversary Soundtrack (not the 4-disc). But Paramount hasn't confirmed whether that will be the art or not.

It seems quite legit though but we ll see


bandtrumpet7
06-03-2012, 04:46 AM
Now if only they'd release *this* as cover art ...


theodred27
06-03-2012, 10:10 AM
Now if only they'd release *this* as cover art ...



Well , send an email to sony with this picture and ask " when?"

OtNife
06-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Now if only they'd release *this* as cover art ...



I must say, that is lovely.

If only...

theodred27
06-27-2012, 06:05 PM
It's been a while since we heard a news from baker.
However I ve found this video , the score is from the death of jack.
It's edited of course but in a good way I'd say.
Titanic Soundtrack - Jack's Death (Unreleased Score) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBnQABq-Q50)

berrybunny
06-27-2012, 11:28 PM
It's been a while since we heard a news from baker.
However I ve found this video , the score is from the death of jack.
It's edited of course but in a good way I'd say.
Titanic Soundtrack - Jack's Death (Unreleased Score) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBnQABq-Q50)
I've seen that one, too. It's the best I've heard so far but somehow the part where Rose lets go of Jack's body never sounds right. I think this is taken from Titanic Suite right?

theodred27
06-28-2012, 09:48 AM
This is a good question, im not very familiar with titanic suite however I recognize a part of the opening title in it.

theodred27
07-07-2012, 09:41 PM
Strangely enough I did not see this one until now.
Titanic Soundtrack ~ Rose at the Stern ~ As heard in the film - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiUcWuibabU&list=UUK9LHjPxQ3miInSbzrNrvRA&index=2&feature=plcp)
By the way I dont know if it is a mix or something but I find it very well done.

Lehnaru
07-13-2012, 11:44 AM
Strangely enough I did not see this one until now.
Titanic Soundtrack ~ Rose at the Stern ~ As heard in the film - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiUcWuibabU&list=UUK9LHjPxQ3miInSbzrNrvRA&index=2&feature=plcp)
By the way I dont know if it is a mix or something but I find it very well done.

I happened upon that a while ago. It's very beautiful.

OSTtracker
07-15-2012, 04:47 AM
Merci beaucoup, theodred27, for the tracks you posted! Long time I did not come here! I think we're all waiting for the blu-Ray, hoping it will enable us to get an isolated score or something.

I listened to the track you posted ; they are great!

theodred27
07-15-2012, 01:48 PM
The cue called " to the start " played when Jack and Rose have sex in the car.
of course there are some sfx but it remains listenable.

WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 44 To The Stars - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGUMBGUXAkc&feature=plcp)

I am sure Jean Baker could do something about this but he is unreachable.

Hakurei
07-15-2012, 08:20 PM
I have been looking through this thread for a while and I've loved all the wonderful contributions that everybody has posted, so I've decided to add one of my own.

Titanic - Finale.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?31s1to871t82qmn)

I made this one, it's the cue that plays at the end when older Rose throws the diamond off the salvage vessel, then (I believe) she dies peacefully as an old lady warm in her bed (as Jack said she would) and her spirit reunites with Jack's on the ship and embrace each other amidst the souls who didn't survive. It's a beautiful cue that I have longed to have in my collection and I am very proud of the end result. There are some SFX in the background, but they can be easily overlooked; at least in my opinion. The speed and pitch of the cue is about 4% higher than in the actual soundtrack, but to be honest, I like it better that way. The bass is also boosted here, but I did that so that the SFX in the last part are less noticeable. I plan to make another version of this cue sometime in the future, so if anyone wants it at normal speed, pitch and bass level, I can make that as well. I share this cue with you all and any constructive criticism would be welcome and appreciated. ^-^

theodred27
07-15-2012, 10:25 PM
I have been looking through this thread for a while and I've loved all the wonderful contributions that everybody has posted, so I've decided to add one of my own.

Titanic - Finale.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?31s1to871t82qmn)

I made this one, it's the cue that plays at the end when older Rose throws the diamond off the salvage vessel, then (I believe) she dies peacefully as an old lady
warm in her bed (as Jack said she would) and her spirit reunites with Jack's on the ship and embrace each other amidst the souls who didn't survive. It's a beautiful cue that I have longed to have in my collection and I am very proud of the end result. There are some SFX in the background, but they can be easily overlooked; at least in my opinion. The speed and pitch of the cue is about 4% higher than in the actual soundtrack, but to be honest, I like it better that way. The bass is also boosted here, but I did that so that the SFX in the last part are less noticeable. I plan to make another version of this cue sometime in the future, so if anyone wants it at normal speed, pitch and bass level, I can make that as well. I share this cue with you all and any constructive criticism would be welcome and appreciated. ^-^

Hello Hakurei , thanks for the kind comment.
I listened your mp3 , I really like the first part until the moment when Rose's theme starts. Did you extract this from the movie or did you edit this?
I prefer this version of Never an Absolution more emotional and it's the version in the movie actually not the album edit with the bagpipes.
For the last part I would say that I don't like it there is too much noises but don't worry I don't think we need to work with this anymore , Jean Baker made a good edit of this one.
I definitely take your mp3 but I will certainly edit it in order to keep the first part , I will add this to my own complete score.

Hakurei
07-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Thanks for your comment, theodred27. For the Rose theme, I did take it from the movie, since the movie version had no flute for the first twelve seconds of it. I have been trying to edit the Rose theme itself to fit the movie version, but those first twelve seconds are frustrating to me, since at least half of that always has SFX in the background. As for the Never An Absolution part, I personally don't like the bagpipes, they just don't sit right with me when put together with the rest of this theme. I do like the version that Jean Baker made of this theme, but I did have some problems with it. I also made this theme a long time ago back when we were still posting on the other thread, and since then, I've figured out a few more things about audio editing. Like I said, I plan to make a newer version of this, and hopefully by then, it will be much better. ^-^

theodred27
07-15-2012, 11:07 PM
Thanks for your comment, theodred27. For the Rose theme, I did take it from the movie, since the movie version had no flute for the first twelve seconds of it. I have been trying to edit the Rose theme itself to fit the movie version, but those first twelve seconds are frustrating to me, since at least half of that always has SFX in the background. As for the Never An Absolution part, I personally don't like the bagpipes, they just don't sit right with me when put together with the rest of this theme. I do like the version that Jean Baker made of this theme, but I did have some problems with it. I also made this theme a long time ago back when we were still posting on the other thread, and since then, I've figured out a few more things about audio editing. Like I said, I plan to make a newer version of this, and hopefully by then, it will be much better. ^-^

I'm looking forward to hearing this.
I think I will start some audio editing too , the butterfly theme is one of my most wanted , I'd really like to have a clean opening title too.

Hakurei
07-15-2012, 11:19 PM
Yes, a clean opening title is probably the Holy Grail of this soundtrack. I tried making a version that as well, but part of it was very echoed. If I remember correctly, Jean Baker recomposed the butterfly theme on his piano for his Ship of Dreams cue.

theodred27
07-15-2012, 11:23 PM
Yes, a clean opening title is probably the Holy Grail of this soundtrack. I tried making a version that as well, but part of it was very echoed. If I remember correctly, Jean Baker recomposed the butterfly theme on his piano for his Ship of Dreams cue.

Yes echo effects due to the submarine.
Jean baker recompose a very little part of the butterfly theme which is composed of 3 motifs that occur in the departure cue , the first eyes contact scene and the butterfly cue of course.

Hakurei
07-15-2012, 11:35 PM
Actually, during the part where the submarine comes, I actually edited the part where the theme plays when Rose just realizes that Jack is dead. I was able to remove Rose's voice from that scene, but it also took away some of the vocals from the song as well.
Ah, yes, that's right. I never really paid attention to the butterfly cue, because when it came to recreating cues, it wasn't a priority for me so on the surface they sounded relatively the same to me. I'm a bit experienced with a piano as well, maybe one day I can recompose the butterfly theme, too. Unless Jean Baker did it all and only used the bit heard in the departure cue, which he could've very well done.

theodred27
07-16-2012, 09:27 AM
Actually, during the part where the submarine comes, I actually edited the part where the theme plays when Rose just realizes that Jack is dead. I was able to remove Rose's voice from that scene, but it also took away some of the vocals from the song as well.
Ah, yes, that's right. I never really paid attention to the butterfly cue, because when it came to recreating cues, it wasn't a priority for me so on the surface they sounded relatively the same to me. I'm a bit experienced with a piano as well, maybe one day I can recompose the butterfly theme, too. Unless Jean Baker did it all and only used the bit heard in the departure cue, which he could've very well done.

No I don't think so , I think he would have given it to us.
There are also some cues we barely hear during the scene in which the submarine visits the wreckage.

Lehnaru
07-16-2012, 11:52 AM
I have been looking through this thread for a while and I've loved all the wonderful contributions that everybody has posted, so I've decided to add one of my own.

Titanic - Finale.mp3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?31s1to871t82qmn)

I made this one, it's the cue that plays at the end when older Rose throws the diamond off the salvage vessel, then (I believe) she dies peacefully as an old lady warm in her bed (as Jack said she would) and her spirit reunites with Jack's on the ship and embrace each other amidst the souls who didn't survive. It's a beautiful cue that I have longed to have in my collection and I am very proud of the end result. There are some SFX in the background, but they can be easily overlooked; at least in my opinion. The speed and pitch of the cue is about 4% higher than in the actual soundtrack, but to be honest, I like it better that way. The bass is also boosted here, but I did that so that the SFX in the last part are less noticeable. I plan to make another version of this cue sometime in the future, so if anyone wants it at normal speed, pitch and bass level, I can make that as well. I share this cue with you all and any constructive criticism would be welcome and appreciated. ^-^

This is very good! The only issues I could hear were the things you mentioned; the speed, pitch, and bass level. It also sounded a bit off near the end. I personally don't mind the bubbling or clapping sounds in the original film audio, faint as they are, but to each their own. :)

Lehnaru
08-07-2012, 10:29 AM
This thread seems to have died, so Imma just leave these complete Titanic score custom covers here... I just made them using the relatively new official images of Titanic 3D. They're not fantastic, but I think I did a decent job, even though the title "TITANIC" on the front over is rather small and the text on the back cover is difficult to see. I hope the full score or recording sessions are released soon, even if it's a bootleg version (with perfect quality, of course)!

Front Cover ()
Back Cover ()

My tracklist is based on every single bit of music in the film. Some cues are combined into suites as to not overload the theoretical album with extremely short tracks. Disc 1 contains a total of 43 minutes and 17 seconds of music, and Disc 2 contains 46 minutes and 18 seconds of music for a grand total of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 25 seconds of music; all of the music in the film save for three duplicates (the Lovejoy chase is moved to "Jack Dawson's Luck" while the original shorter cue is omitted, the Carpathia scene is omitted in favor of the scene in which Rose drops the Heart of the Ocean into the sea, and the cue after "My Heart Will Go On" is actually just the second half of the theatrical version of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch" which I renamed "Maiden Voyage" in this album).

theodred27
08-07-2012, 11:13 AM
This thread seems to have died, so Imma just leave these complete Titanic score custom covers here... I just made them using the relatively new official images of Titanic 3D. They're not fantastic, but I think I did a decent job, even though the title "TITANIC" on the front over is rather small and the text on the back cover is difficult to see. I hope the full score or recording sessions are released soon, even if it's a bootleg version (with perfect quality, of course)!

Front Cover ()

Back Cover ()

My tracklist is based on every single bit of music in the film. Some cues are combined into suites as to not overload the theoretical album with extremely short tracks. Disc 1 contains a total of 43 minutes and 17 seconds of music, and Disc 2 contains 46 minutes and 18 seconds of music for a grand total of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 25 seconds of music; all of the music in the film save for three duplicates (the Lovejoy chase is moved to "Jack Dawson's Luck" while the original shorter cue is omitted, the Carpathia scene is omitted in favor of the scene in which Rose drops the Heart of the Ocean into the sea, and the cue after "My Heart Will Go On" is actually just the second half of the theatrical version of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch" which I renamed "Maiden Voyage" in this album).
Good work , i think im gonna use it for my own complete score.
About the bootleg im not sure it will happen soon but next month with the release of the blu ray we might get a new decent score edit.

Lehnaru
08-07-2012, 11:19 AM
Good work , i think im gonna use it for my own complete score.
About the bootleg im not sure it will happen soon but next month with the release of the blu ray we might get a new decent score edit.

The blu-ray releases next month? Excellent, I was wondering about that. Thanks. I just checked it out and apparently it releases on September 10th. I can't wait! :D

Of course, it would be better if someone just released the recording sessions. It's been over a decade!

theodred27
08-07-2012, 11:54 AM
An isolated score would have been greatly apreciated but we will stay focus on complete score edit.

OSTtracker
08-07-2012, 07:45 PM
Thanks a lot, Lenharu for sharing your good work! It love the picture your chose for the front!

That's true, the thread is dead for now ; except the excellent work of Jeanbaker and some good edits, materials here and there that members like theodred27 or you shared with us, we don't have many things to deal with...

As theodred27 said and as I think I said before, we can do nothing but wait the Blu-Ray and pray for a complete fan edit! I agree, an Isolated Socre would have been heaven! If only I could get by in editing music, I'd do it myself! But I am very bad with it.

So, I rely on my hope to see this thread "resuscitated" in September thanks to one or several saviors!

theodred27
08-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Can't remember if we already got this one.
Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch (Film Version) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wj1TOU40NY)
Did not realise you were behind this lehnaru.
Good work.

Lehnaru
08-08-2012, 03:52 AM
Why thank you! I can't describe how sick I was of hearing the watered down version in the album. -_-

theodred27
08-08-2012, 09:25 AM
My complete score or titanic compilation is a little messy, I would like to make it chronological but every time I want to do it Im lost.
At least there is not sfx except the songs from back to titanic.



1 Never An Absolution 3:02 (*)
2 Valse Septembre 3:41 (***)
3 A Life So Changed 2:14 (*)
4 Distant Memories 2:24 (*)
5 Titanic Suite (**)
6 The Lucky Ticket 0:54 (unreleased)
7 Wedding Dance 2:33 (***)
8 Rose 2:52 (*)
9 Titanic The ship of dreams 2:48 (unreleased)
10 Poet and Peasant 6:51 (***)
11 Southampton 4:02 (*)
12 Blue Danube 6:57 (***)
13 Boiler Room 0:56 (unreleased)
14 An Irish Party In Third Class ( with dialogues) (**)
15 Song Without Words (***)
16 Departure 1:37 (unreleased)
17 Estudiantina 3:13 (***)
18 A Party in Irish Class 3:36 ( original version)
19 Leaving Port 3:20 (*)
20 All Ahead Full 4:19 (unreleased)
21 Vision of Salome 2:44 (***)
22 08 My Heart Will Go On (Titanic) 4:29 (*)
23 Marguerite Waltz 2:36 (***)
24 The Titanic Sinking 10:55 (jean baker edit)
25 Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch 4:32 (*)
26 Hard To Starboard 6:52 (*)
27 The Sinking 5:05 (*)
28 Alexander's Ragtime Band 2:30 (**)
29 Heart of The Ocean/Final Scene (baker's edit) 2:32
30 Sphinx 3:50 (***)
31 Unable To Stay, Unwilling To Leave 3:57 (*)
32 My Heart Will Go On (With Dialogue From The Film) 4:43 (**)
33 Barcarole 3:33 (***)
34 Death of Titanic 8:27 (*)
35 A Promise Kept 6:03 (*)
36 Orpheus 8:42 (***)
37 Nearer My God To Thee 2:50 (**)
38 Song of Autumn 3:55 (***)
41 Hymn To The Sea 6:30 (*)
43 Alexander's Rag Band 2:32 (**)
44 An Ocean Of Memories 7:58 (*)
45 The Portrait 4:44 (**)
46 Jack Dawson's Luck 5:39 (**)
47 A Building Panic 8:09 (**)
48 Come Josephine, In My Flying Machine 3:33 (**)
49 Lament 4:36 (**)
50 A Shore Never Reached 4:27 (*)
51 Epilogue: The Deep And Timeless Sea 12:38 (**)
52 Rose Suicide Attempt 1:58 (unreleased
53 Departure Movie Version 1:55 (alternate baker's edit)
54 Titanic - Finale 4:11 ( Hakurei's rip)
55 Jack's death 2:33 (unreleased)
56 The Sketch 1:46 (film version rip)

(*): music from the original score
(**) Music from back to titanic
(***) Music from the anniversary edition

Music that I don't have:
Take her to the sea Mr Murdoch (ending credits version)
Im the king of the world (Jean Baker's edit) but i think it is pretty much the same than "full ahead"

Lehnaru
08-08-2012, 10:28 AM
Music that I don't have:
Take her to the sea Mr Murdoch (ending credits version)
Im the king of the world (Jean Baker's edit) but i think it is pretty much the same than "full ahead"

Good god, that is a mess. As for "Take her to sea Mr Murdoch (ending credits version)" and "Im the king of the world (Jean Baker's edit)" wouldn't my edit be satisfactory? As I'm sure I mentioned somewhere, mine is basically the first half of the album version combined with the ending credits version to form a cohesive whole that almost perfectly matches the film version.

My Titanic soundtrack is rather messy as well, and sometimes I even prefer to listen to my complete score with full sound effects. But mine's still more orderly than yours, and the first half is in chronological order. The fact that I completely ignored everything the orchestra performs with the exception of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" possibly helps.

1. Back to Titanic (1:25)
2. Distant Memories (2:26)
3. Southampton (4:02)
4. Leaving Port (3:26)
5. Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch (4:31)
6. You Jump, I Jump (6:02)
7. Rose (2:52)
8. The Portrait (4:43)
9. Hard to Starboard (6:52)
10. A Building Panic (8:09)
11. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (3:56)
12. Nearer, My God, To Thee (3:46)
13. The Sinking of the Titanic (10:37)
14. Never Let Go (4:18)
15. The Heart of the Ocean (2:06)
16. A Promise Kept (2:32)
17. Hymn to the Sea (6:25)
18. Maiden Voyage (2:21)
19. The Sinking (5:05)
20. Death of Titanic (8:26)
21. Remembrance (3:03)
22. Ocean of Secrets (7:57)
23. Lament (4:36)
24. A Shore Never Reached (4:27)
25. Requiem for Titanic (6:30)
26. Dream of Autumn (6:09)
27. Ode to Titanic (10:08)
28. Shattered Dreams (8:23)
29. Never an Absolution (5:21)
30. The Deep and Timeless Sea (7:16)
31. Finale (2:23)

Total runtime: 2:40:27

Then of course, I have a shorter, cleaner version of "The Portrait" that sounds exactly like the version in the film, a funny little edit of "The Sinking", a strange edit of "Southampton", the aforementioned edit of "Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch", another edit called Third Class Corridors, which is 3:54, a clean version of "An Irish Party In Third Class", numerous versions of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" and "My Heart Will Go On", and an edit by someone on the internet called "Rose at the Stern" which is 1:57 long. I haven't organized those yet.

I'm probably going to completely revamp my soundtrack in the near future. A lot of tracks are renamed and the longer tracks from the Back to Titanic album are split and it's just a total fiasco. I'm also in the process of completely redoing my complete score with all the sound effects intact, just to get a sort of idea of what I'm missing out on. :(

theodred27
08-08-2012, 10:58 AM
Good god, that is a mess. As for "Take her to sea Mr Murdoch (ending credits version)" and "Im the king of the world (Jean Baker's edit)" wouldn't my edit be satisfactory? As I'm sure I mentioned somewhere, mine is basically the first half of the album version combined with the ending credits version to form a cohesive whole that almost perfectly matches the film version.

My Titanic soundtrack is rather messy as well, and sometimes I even prefer to listen to my complete score with full sound effects. But mine's still more orderly than yours, and the first half is in chronological order. The fact that I completely ignored everything the orchestra performs with the exception of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" possibly helps.

1. Back to Titanic (1:25)
2. Distant Memories (2:26)
3. Southampton (4:02)
4. Leaving Port (3:26)
5. Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch (4:31)
6. You Jump, I Jump (6:02)
7. Rose (2:52)
8. The Portrait (4:43)
9. Hard to Starboard (6:52)
10. A Building Panic (8:09)
11. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave (3:56)
12. Nearer, My God, To Thee (3:46)
13. The Sinking of the Titanic (10:37)
14. Never Let Go (4:18)
15. The Heart of the Ocean (2:06)
16. A Promise Kept (2:32)
17. Hymn to the Sea (6:25)
18. Maiden Voyage (2:21)
19. The Sinking (5:05)
20. Death of Titanic (8:26)
21. Remembrance (3:03)
22. Ocean of Secrets (7:57)
23. Lament (4:36)
24. A Shore Never Reached (4:27)
25. Requiem for Titanic (6:30)
26. Dream of Autumn (6:09)
27. Ode to Titanic (10:08)
28. Shattered Dreams (8:23)
29. Never an Absolution (5:21)
30. The Deep and Timeless Sea (7:16)
31. Finale (2:23)

Total runtime: 2:40:27

Then of course, I have a shorter, cleaner version of "The Portrait" that sounds exactly like the version in the film, a funny little edit of "The Sinking", a strange edit of "Southampton", the aforementioned edit of "Take Her to Sea, Mr Murdoch", another edit called Third Class Corridors, which is 3:54, a clean version of "An Irish Party In Third Class", numerous versions of "Nearer, My God, To Thee" and "My Heart Will Go On", and an edit by someone on the internet called "Rose at the Stern" which is 1:57 long. I haven't organized those yet.

I'm probably going to completely revamp my soundtrack in the near future. A lot of tracks are renamed and the longer tracks from the Back to Titanic album are split and it's just a total fiasco. I'm also in the process of completely redoing my complete score with all the sound effects intact, just to get a sort of idea of what I'm missing out on. :(

You are probably right , im kinda lost with all these edits some cues in my list should be deleted.
I think im going to do the same, this is the most messy complete score I have.
Don't forget to include in your sfx complete score version the deleted scene "Rose in the third class" which contains the cleanest version of "jack & Rose first eyes contact". Too bad that Baker is gone because with just a bit of editing we would at least get a clean version of it.

Lehnaru
08-09-2012, 07:24 AM
Does anyone know what happened to Jean Baker?

theodred27
08-09-2012, 10:30 AM
Does anyone know what happened to Jean Baker?

I tried to contact him through his youtube channel and he did not answer back

The Dimensioner
08-09-2012, 04:14 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Jean Baker?

Maybe TOP MEN got a hold of him.

OSTtracker
08-10-2012, 02:43 PM
lol The Dimensioner! It's what I thought! Maybe Jeanbaker reached a complete score of Titanic and Sony men in black found him and had to kill him to keep the score secrete! The most protected score in the world!

Lehnaru
08-11-2012, 11:18 AM
That's a nasty thought. No wonder William Taylor is so unwilling to release the recording sessions. ;P

theodred27
08-14-2012, 11:08 AM
Full original version of "the winning ticket"
Titanic unreleased score - The Winning Ticket - Full & Clean version - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsakOhVNuT8)

OSTtracker
08-15-2012, 10:33 PM
Waaw! Thank you so much, theodred27 for this! That's a miracle you found this! I have been looking for it for ages! Great thanks for sharing! ^^

theodred27
08-16-2012, 11:01 PM
Waaw! Thank you so much, theodred27 for this! That's a miracle you found this! I have been looking for it for ages! Great thanks for sharing! ^^

You are welcome.

Lehnaru
08-22-2012, 08:31 AM
That's very nice, but I prefer the film version.

deldelight8
08-22-2012, 11:51 PM
Full original version of "the winning ticket"
Titanic unreleased score - The Winning Ticket - Full & Clean version - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsakOhVNuT8)

nice, this sounds pretty good. thank you.

lim2403
08-24-2012, 06:27 PM
Titanic Soundtrack ~ The Sinking Sequence ~ Film Version - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAj_mPhTcO0)

This is what I found. I think it's pretty accurate and decent

theodred27
08-26-2012, 09:49 AM
Titanic Soundtrack ~ The Sinking Sequence ~ Film Version - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAj_mPhTcO0)

This is what I found. I think it's pretty accurate and decent

I agree , if I remember corectly baker already made a mix of this cue.

lim2403
08-26-2012, 11:40 AM
I agree , if I remember corectly baker already made a mix of this cue.
He did, yeah, although this was made a long time ago and I always stuck with it. The uploader also had a nice version of the finale but it's gone...I think he's got some extra cues PLUS the music from the trailer which is pretty cool I think.

theodred27
08-26-2012, 04:47 PM
He did, yeah, although this was made a long time ago and I always stuck with it. The uploader also had a nice version of the finale but it's gone...I think he's got some extra cues PLUS the music from the trailer which is pretty cool I think.

Extra Cues , I think I got some from him by using youtube to mp3.

lim2403
08-26-2012, 09:06 PM
Yeah I do that too ^^ although I try to do it as rarely as I can because Youtube quality sucks..

theodred27
08-26-2012, 09:19 PM
Yeah I do that too ^^ although I try to do it as rarely as I can because Youtube quality sucks..

very true.

theodred27
08-27-2012, 11:51 PM
Please Sign the Complete Score Petition so that we can have a very thin hope.
TITANIC: The Complete Score Petition (http://www.titanicscore.com/)

OSTtracker
08-28-2012, 03:42 PM
I signed the petition, theodred^^

Even if I think that we'll never be enough to convince Sony >_<'

theodred27
08-28-2012, 06:45 PM
I signed the petition, theodred^^

Even if I think that we'll never be enough to convince Sony >_<'

So do I; I think we should try a robbery.

Lehnaru
08-28-2012, 10:31 PM
So do I; I think we should try a robbery.

If we tried that, they'd kill us all.

theodred27
08-29-2012, 12:29 PM
WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 48 You Have To Get To A Boat - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bliyggl47RQ)

It is a great cue , with a little amount of sfx.

Lehnaru
08-29-2012, 09:20 PM
WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 48 You Have To Get To A Boat - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bliyggl47RQ)

It is a great cue , with a little amount of sfx.

Most of the first half is scattered around A Building Panic but it's pretty good.

hahah123
09-04-2012, 05:13 PM
Hi, I'm new in �the business�. Can someone tell me what's the best Titanic Expanded or Complete Edit so far. And could someone maybe share a link?:)

theodred27
09-05-2012, 10:57 AM
There is no best of expanded or complete score for Titanic they are all full of SFX. Nevertheless with the blu ray release , im pretty sure we will soon enough see a cleaner complete score.

hahah123
09-05-2012, 06:08 PM
Great!! Cant wait!!;)

Lehnaru
09-06-2012, 07:06 AM
I just made this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkvvGrWBlkE). There's a disgusting amount of sound effects even though I tried to get rid of as many as I could without compromising the quality of the music. The basic idea is still there, though. It's what we're missing out on because Sony is a... -_-

theodred27
09-06-2012, 10:00 AM
I just made this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkvvGrWBlkE). There's a disgusting amount of sound effects even though I tried to get rid of as many as I could without compromising the quality of the music. The basic idea is still there, though. It's what we're missing out on because Sony is a... -_-

It's good to try , too bad this cue isn't in the score. Is there someone who is planning to get the blu ray?

OSTtracker
09-06-2012, 01:39 PM
The Blu-Ray is no released yet! We have to wait September 10th for USA and September 14th for France. And, after that, I think we'll have to wait that someone gifted works on a complete score based upon the Blu-Rau edition. Il could take some time...

Nice try, Lehnaru for your track ; it's a shame for the SFX, but I could not do half of the work you did on that track, so... Thank you anyway^^

Lehnaru
09-06-2012, 09:15 PM
Like I said, it wasn't supposed to be good; it's to give us an idea of what we're missing out on. I'd buy the blu-ray and do my best, but my laptop doesn't play blu-ray discs... :(

theodred27
09-07-2012, 09:16 AM
Me too , I would probably buy it but I dont know how to extract music on a blu ray.

OSTtracker
09-07-2012, 04:36 PM
Me, I don't have a Blu-Ray player (and don't want one). And if I had one, I would not know how to proceed to extract the music, so... I'll have to wait that another fan, more gifted than me make the job. I sucks to have to rely on others! I'd rather do it myself but I really don't have the abilities.

Patience!

JHFan
09-09-2012, 03:56 AM
Forget the Blu-ray, just use the existing DVD's DTS track.

The Blu-ray is 5.1, the DVD is 6.1. Aside from a minimal quality difference (especially considering it's all sound effects) there's no need to bother trying to extract audio from this particular film on Blu-ray.

I have a Blu-ray player, and a Blu-ray drive for my computer and plan on buying the 3D combo pack, but I'm not bothering to extract anything from it because there's just no point.

theodred27
09-09-2012, 10:42 AM
Forget the Blu-ray, just use the existing DVD's DTS track.

The Blu-ray is 5.1, the DVD is 6.1. Aside from a minimal quality difference (especially considering it's all sound effects) there's no need to bother trying to extract audio from this particular film on Blu-ray.

I have a Blu-ray player, and a Blu-ray drive for my computer and plan on buying the 3D combo pack, but I'm not bothering to extract anything from it because there's just no point.

Well i guess there s no hope.

OSTtracker
09-09-2012, 02:36 PM
Forget the Blu-ray, just use the existing DVD's DTS track.

The Blu-ray is 5.1, the DVD is 6.1. Aside from a minimal quality difference (especially considering it's all sound effects) there's no need to bother trying to extract audio from this particular film on Blu-ray.

I have a Blu-ray player, and a Blu-ray drive for my computer and plan on buying the 3D combo pack, but I'm not bothering to extract anything from it because there's just no point.

Pffffff

The Blu-ray was out last hope, but I was afraid that something could be wrong. Thank you for your post, even if if it's really bad news. Now, it's official, we're fucked, dudes...

JHFan
09-09-2012, 03:55 PM
I know that a while back there was someone (can't recall who right now) going on and on about how the foreign releases were going to have a full 7.1 track and that could be used to rip music, but that person was going off unconfirmed specs.

This film's mix is DTS-HD 5.1 for all releases of the Blu-ray, 2D and 3D no matter what country you buy it in.

The 6.1 track on the DVD added a discrete rear center, which was ONLY for sound effects, not music.

Amanda
09-09-2012, 04:06 PM
We are not actually any worse off than we were befroe. Just a lot more aware of how much is either different or missing from the OST. I hit this "We're ******" phase when the "new" ost set was announced....

JHFan
09-09-2012, 04:42 PM
Unless 'Scorepranos' has it and releases it, since he's clearly got the goods on many a complete score, we will never see this thing out. Ever.

bandtrumpet7
09-10-2012, 12:46 AM
Shame, because all the Blu-ray reviews have touted the score as being especially crisp in the audio. We want more! :(

Anyways, in an effort to be grassroots and to siphon my enthusiasm into something potentially useful, I did create a petition to get the score released. Obviously the site is a little rusty right now but it still works, and I'll beef it up as I go along.

TITANIC: The Complete Score Petition (http://www.titanicscore.com)

Maybe this + Facebook will help convince some executive? Unlikely, but you never know!

Faleel
09-10-2012, 12:49 AM
you should probably remove the mention of releasing the recording sessions, if the complete score is released, the RS will not be needed

The Dimensioner
09-10-2012, 03:54 AM
Unless 'Scorepranos' has it and releases it, since he's clearly got the goods on many a complete score, we will never see this thing out. Ever.

That's a pretty bold assumption to make. This guy has the complete scores to Transformers ergo he's got the complete score to anything.


you should probably remove the mention of releasing the recording sessions, if the complete score is released, the RS will not be needed

???

Faleel
09-10-2012, 04:09 AM
He says:
"This site is home to the official petition for persuading Sony Classical, Twentieth Century Fox, Paramount Pictures, James Horner, and James Cameron to authorize and release the complete score (or recording sessions) for James Cameron's masterpiece"

Doesnt that seem a little redundant?

bandtrumpet7
09-10-2012, 04:49 AM
It may very well be. In my mind, "complete score" is all the music used in the film
(in other words, film edits), where "recording sessions" are alternate and unused takes and all that. I could be mistaken, though, I wrote the whole thing in about 20 minutes, haha. Suggestions are welcome!

Amanda
09-10-2012, 08:13 AM
Now, I had said to myself, don't get involved. BUT...


IF it were me, I would avoid any and all mention of the ALLEGED recording sessions in an official petition. First, the citing of a bootleg source such as that will NOT endear you to the official sources you are trying to win over, and will clearly mark you as one of the pirates they so loathe. Secondly, the main reason cited for those "sessions" to have not come out is theat they are too hot at the moment, and that too much attention is focused on them. Putting them into this petition certainly is not going to help. And, I call them alleged, and use quotes because until we see them produced, and hear them, we do not know if they really exist and or are the real deal,. Dig?

Faleel
09-10-2012, 03:52 PM
We know the recording sessions are real, they took place before the film came out, what we do NOT know, is if they recordings of the RS ever leaked.

Amanda
09-10-2012, 04:08 PM
You know my point. I am not saying there weren't sessions, obviously there were. I am questioning whether the set being discussed are real sessions (nothing personal to William). No one has any tracks or samples from these, so automatically assuming that this exists in leaked form is premature.

hahah123
09-10-2012, 04:29 PM
This version of the Butterfly Cue (before the drawing scene) is the best version that i have found until now.
WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 38 The Butterfly Clip 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNZf6D41C_8&feature=plcp)

I hope WWW415 will upload the full score.

theodred27
09-10-2012, 04:55 PM
This version of the Butterfly Cue (before the drawing scene) is the best version that i have found until now.
WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 38 The Butterfly Clip 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNZf6D41C_8&feature=plcp)

I hope WWW415 will upload the full score.

Yes I said this before , Im sure we could edit this piece with the motif heard in the deleted scene , when rose goes in the third class.

hahah123
09-10-2012, 05:26 PM
Do you know if their are new deleted scenes in the new titanic collector's edition than it was in the old 4 disc set?
I Hope that manowweik1995 will do an edit at some time.

theodred27
09-10-2012, 06:12 PM
Do you know if their are new deleted scenes in the new titanic collector's edition than it was in the old 4 disc set?
I Hope that manowweik1995 will do an edit at some time.

No I dont think so , the only new things are some unreleased documentaries about the titanic , that's all.

hahah123
09-10-2012, 06:15 PM
I think of calling to fox or paramount, but i don't find a number.

theodred27
09-10-2012, 06:25 PM
I think of calling to fox or paramount, but i don't find a number.

Well I dont have their number and I dont know if you might even be able to get it but you could try IMDB pro which has , if my memory is good , email adress at least.

hahah123
09-10-2012, 06:37 PM
Well i don't have IMDB Pro but i found a number to James Horner's agent so i'm going to try that out now.

---------- Post added at 11:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 AM ----------

I tried but the number wasn't working.

theodred27
09-10-2012, 07:43 PM
Well i don't have IMDB Pro but i found a number to James Horner's agent so i'm going to try that out now.

---------- Post added at 11:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 AM ----------

I tried but the number wasn't working.

Aha xD. It does not surprise me at all.

bandtrumpet7
09-10-2012, 10:24 PM
Hmm...good points. I removed "recording sessions" from the site, that's a good point that they are still "alleged" (surely some recordings MUST exist, if even in Horner's or Sony's death grip). And as far as the petition goes, it's not meant to be a shove-it-in-everyone's-face thing. It's more or less a product of combined enthusiasm and boredom, and while I'm calling it an "official" petition (domain name and all!), it's not meant to be anything official right now. If Sony or whoever sees it and for whatever reason decides to release it or authorize Intrada or La-La Land to release it, that's awesome. If not, then nothing is lost, right? I don't want to start anything detrimental, I just thought it'd be nice to have its own little home.

Williamtaylor1969
09-11-2012, 02:40 AM
DUDE! I had asked you nicely not to share those with anyone, that was the agreement that we made when I gave them to you. VERY disappointed.

William

bandtrumpet7
09-11-2012, 02:57 AM
DUDE! I had asked you nicely not to share those with anyone, that was the agreement that we made when I gave them to you. VERY disappointed.

William

errr...did I miss something?

Faleel
09-11-2012, 03:44 AM
He didnt put any recording sessions on his site.....

Lehnaru
09-11-2012, 04:41 AM
Now I'm confused. Something is not right here.

theodred27
09-11-2012, 09:21 AM
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Amanda
09-11-2012, 10:16 AM
i suspect is best a personal thing that discussion will not help. My only comment.

Williamtaylor1969
09-11-2012, 03:29 PM
Oops! Sorry, wrong thread! My bad.

William

hahah123
09-11-2012, 05:48 PM
I now talked to the Paramount Pictures Music Department and they don't have any plans of releaseing the complete score (as I thought). They didn't want to say who owns the rights to the score either, but it was worth a try.
If someone finds out who owns the rights a call to him would be great.

theodred27
09-11-2012, 06:13 PM
I now talked to the Paramount Pictures Music Department and they don't have any plans of releaseing the complete score (as I thought). They didn't want to say who owns the rights to the score either, but it was worth a try.
If someone finds out who owns the rights a call to him would be great.

You made a huge effort, If I remember correctly Sony owns the right for the score.

hahah123
09-11-2012, 06:26 PM
But it says that Paramount released the new 4-disc release on iTunes
By the way if i'm wrong sorry for being stupid!!!

---------- Post added at 11:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 AM ----------

Sorry I read wrong on iTunes.

theodred27
09-12-2012, 09:45 AM
Ive just received a reply of Jean Baker , He will be back soon.
Re: Titanic
Hi friend, i'm sorry if i've been away for so long, but i'm too busy in this period with 20th century fox for production and business, but i will come back soon as i can with news about the score,
it seems that this score is really impossible to recover, but I promise you that in addition to my work I will pursue to recover it! Intime when i go back home in 16 sept, i will do a new edit about the first eye meet music, the title theme and the car scene, please tell this to others members! :) ciao.

OSTtracker
09-12-2012, 06:02 PM
Thanks a lot, Theodred! That's great!

Glad to see that Jeanbaker did not forget us! That's crazy to see that, even him, finally admits that it's impossible to recover this bloody score! More than never, he is our last hope to have the closest track from the film version!

I'm so angry against Sony >< I admitt, I download somes scores, but because the complete are never (or almost) released, and that's what I look for. But, if a Titanic complete score was released, I would not hesitate and would buy it right now!

theodred27
09-12-2012, 07:21 PM
Thanks a lot, Theodred! That's great!

Glad to see that Jeanbaker did not forget us! That's crazy to see that, even him, finally admits that it's impossible to recover this bloody score! More than never, he is our last hope to have the closest track from the film version!

I'm so angry against Sony >< I admitt, I download somes scores, but because the complete are never (or almost) released, and that's what I look for. But, if a Titanic complete score was released, I would not hesitate and would buy it right now!

Yes I would definetly do the same , even for 50 bucks.

Lehnaru
09-12-2012, 10:45 PM
Yes I would definetly do the same , even for 50 bucks.

I'd spend no more than $120 and no less than $0.

jeanbaker
09-29-2012, 05:10 AM
Hello friends! :) i'm sorry if I've been away so long, but i was really busy, i dont have new edits right now, because its very difficult to remove the sfx from the tracks! Anyway i still working for it, and i'm also working about know how to get this score! I'm in contact with Kevin Kelleher and Dennis Kooker (Sony Music) and mr. Jeffrey Eisner (Todd-ao recordings) but it seems no one wanna talks about it, and that this recordings maybe are lost?? How they could lost something of that? I dont beleve that! But i still waiting answer from them for more info, intime i would be grateful to you guys, if you get any info of who recorded this score, starting asking anyone for it, because if we dont do something i dont think we will hear this score and i dont think they will ever release it, thank you my friends! :) seeya.

theodred27
09-29-2012, 08:20 AM
Welcolme back Jean ! it is great to see you here.

OSTtracker
09-29-2012, 04:40 PM
Such a pleasure to see you here, my friend! We missed you!

Don't worry, we understand that you are busy!

It would be the least we can do to help you in your search, but, I really don't know how to start. I make daily or weekly research on the Web, but I never find anything... And I know nobody who is important or works for Sony...

Anyway, welcome back, dear jeanbaker!^^

jeanbaker
09-30-2012, 03:05 AM
Thank you guys! :) i tryed to clean as possible the ''First Eye Meet'' Track (as you call it) but even my effort, the background noise still present a little! i'm sorry guys! but i hope you like it anyway, :)

Hotfile.com: One click file hosting: First Eye Meet.m4a (http://hotfile.com/dl/174400591/6857cd1/First_Eye_Meet.m4a.html)

Now because the car scene has to much background noise, i'm composing it from zero, starting with piano and other instruments, if i will succeed to recreate that music or much simile possible, i will share with you, :) in time, i made the first part with piano! i'll do the rest only if you like it! :) ciao!

http://hotfile.com/dl/174412561/f17f39b/Car_Scene_Part1_(Piano).m4a.html

hahah123
09-30-2012, 08:57 AM
Hey, the piano sounds good in "the car scene part 1"
I hope you will do part 2.

Your version of "First Eye Meet" is the absolute best out there.
Keep up to good work!!!!!

theodred27
09-30-2012, 10:11 AM
Thank you guys! :) i tryed to clean as possible the ''First Eye Meet'' Track (as you call it) but even my effort, the background noise still present a little! i'm sorry guys! but i hope you like it anyway, :)

Hotfile.com: One click file hosting: First Eye Meet.m4a (http://hotfile.com/dl/174400591/6857cd1/First_Eye_Meet.m4a.html)

Now because the car scene has to much background noise, i'm composing it from zero, starting with piano and other instruments, if i will succeed to recreate that music or much simile possible, i will share with you, :) in time, i made the first part with piano! i'll do the rest only if you like it! :) ciao!

Hotfile.com: One click file hosting: Car Scene Part1 (Piano).m4a (http://hotfile.com/dl/174412561/f17f39b/Car_Scene_Part1_(Piano).m4a.html)

Indeed this is the best version out there (Ive not listened to your second link). By the way , a long time ago we talk about the idea of extracting the music from one of the deleted scene which provides a cleaner cue of first eyes contact at least at the begining , Im sure if we mix it with what you have here we could get a extended cue without sfx.

hahah123
09-30-2012, 10:13 AM
Yeas that's a good idea.
Does anyone have the 4 disc deluxe edition, and wants to share the deleted scene music?

theodred27
09-30-2012, 10:19 AM
Yeas that's a good idea.
Does anyone have the 4 disc deluxe edition, and wants to share the deleted scene music?

I dont have it , the scene can be seen here Titanic deleted scene: Rose visits Jack in Third Class. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXgnuvf0v8)
But of course we need the dvd for this one , Even though im thinking about paying for the blu ray I dont know how to extract.

hahah123
09-30-2012, 10:46 AM
I have the 4 disc Deluxe Edition DVD, but i don't know how to extract the audio.
What program is the best to use?
I've heard of DVD Audio extractor.

theodred27
09-30-2012, 10:59 AM
Yes I have this software somewhere and use it to extract some music from titanic , the problem would be how to find the scene inside all the dvd files.

hahah123
09-30-2012, 11:36 AM
Yes I have this software somewhere and use it to extract some music from titanic , the problem would be how to find the scene inside all the dvd files.

Aha!!
Didn't think of that.

theodred27
09-30-2012, 12:32 PM
Well technically its not so hard if the deleted scenes are on disc 3 or 4

hahah123
09-30-2012, 01:20 PM
Well technically its not so hard if the deleted scenes are on disc 3 or 4

They're on disc 3.

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Well technically its not so hard if the deleted scenes are on disc 3 or 4

They're on disc 3.

theodred27
09-30-2012, 01:30 PM
in that case it should be easy.

hahah123
09-30-2012, 01:47 PM
in that case it should be easy.

They're on disc 3.

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sorry I posted wrong

The Dimensioner
09-30-2012, 03:12 PM
Are they on disc 3?

theodred27
09-30-2012, 03:44 PM
yes they are.

jeanbaker
09-30-2012, 04:43 PM
I have already mixed them! I get the parts with minor sfx from deleted scene and other, i'm sorry i was hope too in some scenes!

For the car scene, i'm so glad you like it! I worked on it all nite to make that much simile possible to the original, but i have more work to do for the woodwind i struments, i'm working with garage band and logic with my keyboard, i know its not like a real orchestra, but the positive things is that horner used much synthesized instruments and effect for titanic :)
Thank you again

theodred27
09-30-2012, 04:55 PM
I have already mixed them! I get the parts with minor sfx from deleted scene and other, i'm sorry i was hope too in some scenes!

For the car scene, i'm so glad you like it! I worked on it all nite to make that much simile possible to the original, but i have more work to do for the woodwind i struments, i'm working with garage band and logic with my keyboard, i know its not like a real orchestra, but the positive things is that horner used much synthesized instruments and effect for titanic :)
Thank you again

All right , I cant wait to hear the rest of it.

jeanbaker
10-07-2012, 12:40 AM
All right friends! this is the final version of my car scene, i named it ''Love Theme'' or ''To the Stars (is nice too)'' whatever you call as you like, well i hope you like this version and, give me any advise about it! tell me what you think! :) bye.

TITANIC SCORE: Love Theme (Unreleased) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seCUufq0aXk)

hahah123
10-07-2012, 07:28 AM
Very nice the best edit out there
You do hear that it's not real instruments clearly but this is good!
Thank you jeanbaker

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You could maybe mix it with film audio.
I mean the last part is sfx free if i'm right

jeanbaker
10-07-2012, 07:56 AM
Very nice the best edit out there
You do hear that it's not real instruments clearly but this is good!
Thank you jeanbaker

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You could maybe mix it with film audio.
I mean the last part is sfx free if i'm right

Thank you ahahah123 - yes i know wasn't real instruments, but i used the high definition orchestranof garage band and logic pro for the synth effect, i'll do some edit of it, but in time, hope you enjoy for this! It was very difficult to made! :) ciao

hahah123
10-07-2012, 09:19 AM
Thank you ahahah123 - yes i know wasn't real instruments, but i used the high definition orchestranof garage band and logic pro for the synth effect, i'll do some edit of it, but in time, hope you enjoy for this! It was very difficult to made! :) ciao

I am very happy with it!!! :)

theodred27
10-07-2012, 09:56 AM
This is absolutely fantastic Jean, I hope that in the futur we would be able to gather all these cues you ve made and the ones we ve found to create an unofficial expanded/complete score that we could post on the forum.
What do you plan to do next? Opening titles , Butterfly comb? :)

hahah123
10-07-2012, 10:06 AM
I would like to hear a jeanbaker edit on the underwater scenes in the beginning of the film. (The diving scenes)

Lehnaru
10-07-2012, 12:26 PM
This is absolutely fantastic Jean, I hope that in the futur we would be able to gather all these cues you ve made and the ones we ve found to create an unofficial expanded/complete score that we could post on the forum.
What do you plan to do next? Opening titles , Butterfly comb? :)


You should use my edit of Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch ;)

@JeanBaker: Beautiful edit as always; I'll be adding it to my collection. :)

theodred27
10-07-2012, 01:06 PM
yes indeed , all the stuff that is available.

hahah123
10-07-2012, 01:43 PM
Great Idea!!!
What do we have so far?

theodred27
10-07-2012, 03:05 PM
Let say we have:

The four discs edition ( Original Score , Back to Titanic , Salonisti and the white Star line cd )
In the unreleased stuff we have (according to my collection)

Jean Baker's edits
Boiler Scene
Titanic The Ship of Dreams
The Winning Ticket
All Ahead Full
The Departure
First Eye Contact
The Titanic Sinking
Im the King of the World
Heart of the Ocean
Traped under E deck
The Car Scene (Love Theme)
Lehnaru's Edit
Take Her to the Sea Mr Murdoch

Additional Stuff
The Winning Ticket (Original Version)
Rose Suicide Attempt
An Irish Party in Third Class (Clean Version)

Im probably missing some things. The additional stuff are several cues Ive picked from youtube they are made by various people.

hahah123
10-07-2012, 04:00 PM
Okey that's a start.
We need Opening Titles, The Wreck (Underwater) and Butterfly Comb.
Is it possible to edit the wreck?

theodred27
10-07-2012, 04:31 PM
The last time I checked the dvd for this scene there was a subsequent amount of SFX mainly due to the submarine....

hahah123
10-07-2012, 04:35 PM
I think that there are parts on the two official cd's that you can mix with the film audio.

theodred27
10-07-2012, 05:05 PM
I think that there are parts on the two official cd's that you can mix with the film audio.

Probably but I dont know deeply the scores nor do I have the skills in mixing.

hahah123
10-07-2012, 05:12 PM
Aha!!

Lehnaru
10-07-2012, 09:32 PM
The last time I checked the dvd for this scene there was a subsequent amount of SFX mainly due to the submarine....

The submarine SFX at the end of the opening titles really aren't that bad, or distracting, and it's the best we have. At least the first 3/4 of the track is completely clean! Also, the very end just before the credits is nearly perfect, except for some minor bubbling noises halfway through and some VERY light clapping near the end. I use those for the beginning and end of my tracklist. :P

jeanbaker
10-08-2012, 06:02 AM
Thank you guys for your compliments, i'm very happy to see you like my edits, :) i watched the wreck scene, and i cant recognize what music are not in the soundtrack, i think i can do that, but please tell me what is the missing music,
The title theme, its really funny, but is the same music at the end when jack dies, and it has a disturbing sfx at the same part of the first, (submarine) and last (anyone alive out there?) its a joke? Lol anyway, i think it could be mixed with some part of titanic suite, for that part.

Lehnaru
10-08-2012, 08:03 AM
Thank you guys for your compliments, i'm very happy to see you like my edits, :) i watched the wreck scene, and i cant recognize what music are not in the soundtrack, i think i can do that, but please tell me what is the missing music,
The title theme, its really funny, but is the same music at the end when jack dies, and it has a disturbing sfx at the same part of the first, (submarine) and last (anyone alive out there?) its a joke? Lol anyway, i think it could be mixed with some part of titanic suite, for that part.

Hey jeanbaker, use this track for reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciuo3AC-Axg). It's the audio of the wreck scene, all of it. :)

Here's the music from Jack's death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3cEitwXLI). Could you improve it?

allan007
10-08-2012, 12:39 PM
oh i loved all songs of this movie ......

theodred27
10-08-2012, 06:09 PM
oh i loved all songs of this movie ......

This is why we try to keep this thread alive.

hahah123
10-08-2012, 06:35 PM
True!

skeedrow22
10-09-2012, 10:06 PM
Has anyone been able to do this deleted scene? Titanic deleted scene: Rose visits Jack in Third Class. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXgnuvf0v8)
The music when Rose enters 3rd class is beautiful!

theodred27
10-10-2012, 09:11 AM
Has anyone been able to do this deleted scene? Titanic deleted scene: Rose visits Jack in Third Class. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXgnuvf0v8)
The music when Rose enters 3rd class is beautiful!

Well Jean Baker made an edit of this. Check out the previous post.

This can be useful
Chronological Scores / Soundtracks: Titanic (http://chrono-score.blogspot.fr/2012/09/titanic.html)

allan007
10-11-2012, 05:52 PM
you can get the best in music from a website (http://mp3attic.com)and then download that music and edit your track

Lehnaru
10-12-2012, 05:23 AM
Well Jean Baker made an edit of this. Check out the previous post.

This can be useful
Chronological Scores / Soundtracks: Titanic (http://chrono-score.blogspot.fr/2012/09/titanic.html)

That's a very messy list. The album edits are all wrong anyway. :/

jeanbaker
10-13-2012, 06:50 AM
Hey jeanbaker, use this track for reference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciuo3AC-Axg). It's the audio of the wreck scene, all of it. :)

Here's the music from Jack's death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF3cEitwXLI). Could you improve it?

Allright! I think i can do this! Is very diffficult but i can do it, :) there ar much mix about salonisti unreleased music i have, and more mix with part of the ost, let me see what i can do! Ciao :)

theodred27
10-13-2012, 09:40 AM
I dont know if this one can be even more cleaned or if you can recompose it =)
WWW415 Titanic Complete Score 38 The Butterfly Clip 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNZf6D41C_8)

OmarReyes
10-14-2012, 03:35 PM
Hi all, I posted this before but it seems my post didn't appear... I've following this very interesting thread. I want to thank to jeanbaker for his very significant contribution. I found this on YouTube days ago: This video contains some complete cues as they appear on the film complete isolated on the left cannel (the rignt cannel cotains the voices and SFX)... it begins with Southampton (film version) and cointains many more. Very interesting to hear.

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

Lehnaru
10-14-2012, 04:40 PM
Hi all, I posted this before but it seems my post didn't appear... I've following this very interesting thread. I want to thank to jeanbaker for his very significant contribution. I found this on YouTube days ago: This video contains some complete cues as they appear on the film complete isolated on the left cannel (the rignt cannel cotains the voices and SFX)... it begins with Southampton (film version) and cointains many more. Very interesting to hear.

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

Thank you so much! That is so strange how it's hidden in there! xD

hahah123
10-14-2012, 05:38 PM
I have the 4 dis edition.
do you know the title of the featurette?

Thank you for the information.

theodred27
10-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Hi all, I posted this before but it seems my post didn't appear... I've following this very interesting thread. I want to thank to jeanbaker for his very significant contribution. I found this on YouTube days ago: This video contains some complete cues as they appear on the film complete isolated on the left cannel (the rignt cannel cotains the voices and SFX)... it begins with Southampton (film version) and cointains many more. Very interesting to hear.

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

This might be very useful for us to fill our complete score.

hahah123
10-14-2012, 06:45 PM
This might be very useful for us to fill our complete score.

Definitely!

OmarReyes
10-14-2012, 07:22 PM
I don't know the title of the featurette... In YouTube video it's called "Titanic Behind the Scenes: Part 2", I suppose there is a Part 1, but I couldn't find it. Please look in your 4 disc edition if there is any video like that, and maybe We'll can extract the audio if it is isolated in the DVD too like in YouTube.

hahah123
10-14-2012, 07:42 PM
I have looked around a bit in my edition and it doesn't seem like the featurette is on it as far as I can see:

OmarReyes
10-14-2012, 07:54 PM
I think I found Part I on YouTube, but sadly it has no music.

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDqw3oQ9qo)

It's strange... If no DVD has this video, then maybe somebody else edited it? Sombody who has the music? Mmm no, I don't think so.

hahah123
10-14-2012, 08:06 PM
Maybe we could ask the uploader to upload it in better quality and at the same time we could ask where he or she has gotten it from!

OmarReyes
10-14-2012, 08:35 PM
Good idea, we may try!

hahah123
10-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Yeah!
How did you find out about this clip?

OSTtracker
10-18-2012, 12:54 AM
Hey, folks!

I realize than I had not come yet to give my impressions on JeanBaker's work. What to say? As usual, my dear JeanBaker, it's just awesome work you did on the "love theme". Honestly, it's not my favorite theme at all in the score, but it's Horner though and I particularly love the end of the track that marks the transition from the car scene to the beautiful night view of the "Titanic".

You managed to recreate this, so great! You're are definitely our man, dude!

I listened to the "SFX" versions of the "Wreck", and I must say that I am very eager to get this clean, one day ; such a great atmosphere in this track ; beautiful, nostalgic, melancholic and a little gloomy! Perfect!

Go on like this, Jean! ;)

Lehnaru
10-20-2012, 10:57 AM
I finally got around to composing a rough track list for the complete score for no other reason than to give myself a taste of and torment myself about what we're missing. I referenced the newest version of my SFX score as well as, to a far lesser extent, the official albums. I did my best to arrange all of the music in chronological order, but "Jack Dawson's Luck" and "Never an Absolution" had to be replaced by their slightly longer counterparts since they made the identical shorter versions redundant. Due to the importance of the opening titles, I included the track despite the fact that it's a duplicate of the track that plays during Jack's death. I also did this with the very last track, "The Ship of Dreams"; it is a duplicate of the second half of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch", which I renamed here to "Maiden Voyage", because I didn't want Celine Dion's awful song ending the list. Both duplicates are justified by the fact that "Back to Titanic" contains a lengthy fade in and fade out and "The Ship of Dreams" has that haunting bit at the end which I extended with the ending of "Hymn to the Sea" from the first album.

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version's length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I'm having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn't fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I'll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here's to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 - 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) - 1:25
2. Ghost Ship - 5:59
3. Distant Memories - 3:55
4. Southampton - 2:23
5. Jack Dawson�s Luck - 1:29
6. Leaving Port - 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage - 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump - 5:52
9. A Real Party - 4:31
10. Last Sunset - 2:42
11. The Portrait - 2:21
12. To the Stars - 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard - 6:39

Disc 2 - 49:40

14. Women and Children First - 4:15
15. Falling Apart - 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave - 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors - 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee - 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams - 3:10
20. Death of Titanic - 7:28
21. Never Let Go - 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean - 1:34
23. Never an Absolution - 1:52
24. A Promise Kept - 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) - 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) - 2:40

Total - 94:08

theodred27
10-20-2012, 11:22 AM
I finally got around to composing a rough track list for the complete score for no other reason than to give myself a taste of and torment myself about what we're missing. I referenced the newest version of my SFX score as well as, to a far lesser extent, the official albums. I did my best to arrange all of the music in chronological order, but "Jack Dawson's Luck" and "Never an Absolution" had to be replaced by their slightly longer counterparts since they made the identical shorter versions redundant. Due to the importance of the opening titles, I included the track despite the fact that it's a duplicate of the track that plays during Jack's death. I also did this with the very last track, "The Ship of Dreams"; it is a duplicate of the second half of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch", which I renamed here to "Maiden Voyage", because I didn't want Celine Dion's awful song ending the list. Both duplicates are justified by the fact that "Back to Titanic" contains a lengthy fade in and fade out and "The Ship of Dreams" has that haunting bit at the end which I extended with the ending of "Hymn to the Sea" from the first album.

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version's length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I'm having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn't fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I'll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here's to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 - 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) - 1:25
2. Ghost Ship - 5:59
3. Distant Memories - 3:55
4. Southampton - 2:23
5. Jack Dawson’s Luck - 1:29
6. Leaving Port - 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage - 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump - 5:52
9. A Real Party - 4:31
10. Last Sunset - 2:42
11. The Portrait - 2:21
12. To the Stars - 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard - 6:39

Disc 2 - 49:40

14. Women and Children First - 4:15
15. Falling Apart - 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave - 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors - 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee - 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams - 3:10
20. Death of Titanic - 7:28
21. Never Let Go - 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean - 1:34
23. Never an Absolution - 1:52
24. A Promise Kept - 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) - 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) - 2:40

Total - 94:08

I like it but Should not the heart of the ocean be put just before tracks 25 & 26?

jedisaurus
10-20-2012, 04:37 PM
Very nice! Instead of uploading each track to youtube, why don't you just upload them to a file share site like rapidshare or something like that?


I finally got around to composing a rough track list for the complete score for no other reason than to give myself a taste of and torment myself about what we're missing. I referenced the newest version of my SFX score as well as, to a far lesser extent, the official albums. I did my best to arrange all of the music in chronological order, but "Jack Dawson's Luck" and "Never an Absolution" had to be replaced by their slightly longer counterparts since they made the identical shorter versions redundant. Due to the importance of the opening titles, I included the track despite the fact that it's a duplicate of the track that plays during Jack's death. I also did this with the very last track, "The Ship of Dreams"; it is a duplicate of the second half of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch", which I renamed here to "Maiden Voyage", because I didn't want Celine Dion's awful song ending the list. Both duplicates are justified by the fact that "Back to Titanic" contains a lengthy fade in and fade out and "The Ship of Dreams" has that haunting bit at the end which I extended with the ending of "Hymn to the Sea" from the first album.

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version's length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I'm having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn't fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I'll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here's to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 - 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) - 1:25
2. Ghost Ship - 5:59
3. Distant Memories - 3:55
4. Southampton - 2:23
5. Jack Dawson’s Luck - 1:29
6. Leaving Port - 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage - 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump - 5:52
9. A Real Party - 4:31
10. Last Sunset - 2:42
11. The Portrait - 2:21
12. To the Stars - 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard - 6:39

Disc 2 - 49:40

14. Women and Children First - 4:15
15. Falling Apart - 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave - 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors - 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee - 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams - 3:10
20. Death of Titanic - 7:28
21. Never Let Go - 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean - 1:34
23. Never an Absolution - 1:52
24. A Promise Kept - 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) - 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) - 2:40

Total - 94:08

Lehnaru
10-20-2012, 09:07 PM
@theodred27: The Heart of the Ocean is the track that plays when Rose is standing in the rain on the Carpathia. It's a bit misleading but I wanted the track that plays when Rose throws the diamond into the ocean to be called Never an Absolution.

@jedisaurus: That's a much better idea. A lot less work for me!

theodred27
10-21-2012, 01:05 AM
All right , since you planed to post it one the forum i think we should give credits to Jean and call it version 1.0 because we dont have everything yet.
Following a discussion about removing echoes and sfx in a cue here is the reply I have been given.
I have the program they're referring to as a plug-in for Audacity, it's probably not as sophisticated as a stand-alone program, but it makes good for familiarizing yourself with the process, I was trying it out on a couple things, and haven't quite mastered it yet, but it does what everyone is saying, you have to make sure your looking at the audio as a frequency spectrum instead of a waveform, that way you can identify where the bit is you want to remove (you actually SEE the sfx around the music) and once you've determined around what frequency it's at you can then go into the program, slide it to that frequency, and then you can adjust range so you can make the area of removal around that frequency bigger or smaller, and then you tell it if you want to remove it entirely or just lower the volume, etc. And all that is just the Audacity plug-in, I too would be interested in a stand-alone program dedicated to this.

EDIT: If you guys want the Audacity version plug-in, then here ya go. It's called "Parametric EQ"
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Ny...#Parametric_EQ

This could be very useful for " the wreck" and other cues who might even be updated. I think it could be a good tip for Baker.

Lehnaru
10-21-2012, 02:28 AM
All right , since you planed to post it one the forum i think we should give credits to Jean and call it version 1.0 because we dont have everything yet.

What do you mean by that?

Also, your link is broken: Nyquist Effect Plug-ins - Audacity Wiki (http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Parametric_EQ)

EDIT: I'm having an issue with the Southampton cue that OmarReyes found. I turned it into a dual-channel stereo track at the cost of some quality (obviously) and I managed to enhance it beautifully with DFX, but DFX can't save files, so I can't share it. Any ideas?

hahah123
10-21-2012, 08:42 AM
Did you mix the OmarReyes southampton track with jeankakers edit?

theodred27
10-21-2012, 09:28 AM
What do you mean by that?

Also, your link is broken: Nyquist Effect Plug-ins - Audacity Wiki (http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Parametric_EQ)

EDIT: I'm having an issue with the Southampton cue that OmarReyes found. I turned it into a dual-channel stereo track at the cost of some quality (obviously) and I managed to enhance it beautifully with DFX, but DFX can't save files, so I can't share it. Any ideas?

I mean giving him credits for the song he has recomposed. The term version 1.0 is because we talked last time with Jean to release a complete score but of course I dont think it would be completely full and we would certainly have others versions after this one.

ZeekePullman503
10-21-2012, 03:42 PM
Hi all, I posted this before but it seems my post didn't appear... I've following this very interesting thread. I want to thank to jeanbaker for his very significant contribution. I found this on YouTube days ago: This video contains some complete cues as they appear on the film complete isolated on the left cannel (the rignt cannel cotains the voices and SFX)... it begins with Southampton (film version) and cointains many more. Very interesting to hear.

I know there are a lot of different editions of this film on DVD, personally I have a 2 disc editions with the videos from behind the scenes splitted all across the film. But maybe another edition contains this featurette in high quality (because the YouTube video lacks of it). What do you think?

Here is the video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHlowwUPzI)

Just so you guys know, I can say for sure that this is NOT a dvd featurette. Did you notice that there's no interviews? These are B-Roll Montages. Meaning there's always some crew member filming with this secondary camera, footage to be used in behind-the-scenes features, so something like this would never appear as you see it on youtube on a dvd or even blu-ray release, as to how it got on youtube with the music isolated (unfortunately in mono) in the left channel I have no clue, but you won't find this on a dvd anywhere, that doesn't mean a higher quality version won't be available somewhere though.

The Dimensioner
10-21-2012, 04:51 PM
All right , since you planed to post it one the forum i think we should give credits to Jean and call it version 1.0 because we dont have everything yet.
Following a discussion about removing echoes and sfx in a cue here is the reply I have been given.
I have the program they're referring to as a plug-in for Audacity, it's probably not as sophisticated as a stand-alone program, but it makes good for familiarizing yourself with the process, I was trying it out on a couple things, and haven't quite mastered it yet, but it does what everyone is saying, you have to make sure your looking at the audio as a frequency spectrum instead of a waveform, that way you can identify where the bit is you want to remove (you actually SEE the sfx around the music) and once you've determined around what frequency it's at you can then go into the program, slide it to that frequency, and then you can adjust range so you can make the area of removal around that frequency bigger or smaller, and then you tell it if you want to remove it entirely or just lower the volume, etc. And all that is just the Audacity plug-in, I too would be interested in a stand-alone program dedicated to this.

EDIT: If you guys want the Audacity version plug-in, then here ya go. It's called "Parametric EQ"
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Ny...#Parametric_EQ

This could be very useful for " the wreck" and other cues who might even be updated. I think it could be a good tip for Baker.

And don't forget to thank the guy who gave you this response: http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/harry-potter-deathly-hallows-part-ii-expanded-96384/7.html#post2189429

@zeeky: I've seen similar featurettes for Pirates 4. They have all the music in one channel and the talking in the other channel, and it sounds like music that might not even be Pirates, but is attempting to be Pirates.

FunnyML
10-21-2012, 05:23 PM
Just so you guys know, I can say for sure that this is NOT a dvd featurette. Did you notice that there's no interviews? These are B-Roll Montages. Meaning there's always some crew member filming with this secondary camera, footage to be used in behind-the-scenes features, so something like this would never appear as you see it on youtube on a dvd or even blu-ray release, as to how it got on youtube with the music isolated (unfortunately in mono) in the left channel I have no clue, but you won't find this on a dvd anywhere, that doesn't mean a higher quality version won't be available somewhere though.

Doesn't it say at the end it's from a digital press kit?

ZeekePullman503
10-27-2012, 07:04 PM
Doesn't it say at the end it's from a digital press kit?

Well, then I guess we have to try and track down said press kit. I know for certain this isn't on the public DVD though.

theodred27
10-30-2012, 08:50 PM
I finally got around to composing a rough track list for the complete score for no other reason than to give myself a taste of and torment myself about what we're missing. I referenced the newest version of my SFX score as well as, to a far lesser extent, the official albums. I did my best to arrange all of the music in chronological order, but "Jack Dawson's Luck" and "Never an Absolution" had to be replaced by their slightly longer counterparts since they made the identical shorter versions redundant. Due to the importance of the opening titles, I included the track despite the fact that it's a duplicate of the track that plays during Jack's death. I also did this with the very last track, "The Ship of Dreams"; it is a duplicate of the second half of "Take Her To Sea, Mr Murdoch", which I renamed here to "Maiden Voyage", because I didn't want Celine Dion's awful song ending the list. Both duplicates are justified by the fact that "Back to Titanic" contains a lengthy fade in and fade out and "The Ship of Dreams" has that haunting bit at the end which I extended with the ending of "Hymn to the Sea" from the first album.

"You Jump, I Jump" is a compilation of the music that plays when Jack first sees Rose, Rose attempts suicide, Cal gives Rose the Heart of the Ocean, and Jack shows Rose his drawings. "Distant Memories" is extended at the end by the piano piece that plays in the scene just before "The Portrait"; which, by the way, was fancifully extended by chopping the second album version's length clean in half. Most of my titles are direct, relevant, and completely self-explanatory, although I'm having trouble figuring out what to name "Women and Children First" since the title really doesn't fit Rose rescuing Jack, but it will do for now. All of the tracks have a few seconds added on to them for the addition of extra time for fade outs, openings, and cut bits (overlap, loud sound effects, unfinished pieces, etc.). They are all ripped straight from the film with sound effects included and the slight edits I mentioned above. I'll upload the entire thing to YouTube in the next few weeks. Please tell me what you think, and here's to hoping that someone actually releases the complete score!

Disc 1 - 44:28

1. Back to Titanic (Opening Titles) - 1:25
2. Ghost Ship - 5:59
3. Distant Memories - 3:55
4. Southampton - 2:23
5. Jack Dawson’s Luck - 1:29
6. Leaving Port - 1:12
7. Maiden Voyage - 3:51
8. You Jump, I Jump - 5:52
9. A Real Party - 4:31
10. Last Sunset - 2:42
11. The Portrait - 2:21
12. To the Stars - 2:09
13. Hard to Starboard - 6:39

Disc 2 - 49:40

14. Women and Children First - 4:15
15. Falling Apart - 5:38
16. Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave - 3:36
17. Third Class Corridors - 3:47
18. Nearer, My God, To Thee - 2:59
19. Shattered Dreams - 3:10
20. Death of Titanic - 7:28
21. Never Let Go - 5:30
22. The Heart of the Ocean - 1:34
23. Never an Absolution - 1:52
24. A Promise Kept - 2:29
25. My Heart Will Go On (End Credits) - 4:42
26. The Ship of Dreams (End Credits) - 2:40

Total - 94:08

How is your edit going?

bandtrumpet7
11-09-2012, 04:46 AM
At that video - holy crap!!! That's the entire Southampton 1912 cue! Amazing! That's what I hate about featurettes and such. "Heart of the Ocean" - the HBO special - had a ton of unreleased cues buried in the mix. This also sounds like it has some unused "Irish" cues (perhaps originally used instead of Rakish Paddy during the boiler room chase) and some of the Rose-looking-for-Jack scenes.

I've taken the left channel and made it a stereo mix. It's far from perfect, but much better than listening to it on one channel.


https://hotfile.com/dl/178895664/b26759e/Titanic_Suite.mp3.html

-BT7

theodred27
11-09-2012, 10:12 AM
Thank you.

hahah123
11-09-2012, 06:30 PM
At that video - holy crap!!! That's the entire Southampton 1912 cue! Amazing! That's what I hate about featurettes and such. "Heart of the Ocean" - the HBO special - had a ton of unreleased cues buried in the mix. This also sounds like it has some unused "Irish" cues (perhaps originally used instead of Rakish Paddy during the boiler room chase) and some of the Rose-looking-for-Jack scenes.

I've taken the left channel and made it a stereo mix. It's far from perfect, but much better than listening to it on one channel.


https://hotfile.com/dl/178895664/b26759e/Titanic_Suite.mp3.html

-BT7

Thank You very much!!!!

bandtrumpet7
11-09-2012, 10:43 PM
A bit of analysis, if anyone's interested...

I listened through the MP3, and this is insanely interesting. It's broken down below. I'll also be attempting to enhance and restore the audio to make it a bit clearer.

From 00:00 - 02:21, there's the Southampton 1912 cue, almost in its entirety (it fades out at the part where Rose says "it was the ship of dreams, to everyone else." Huzzah!

2:21 - 2:47 sounds like perhaps an alternate take on the finale of "Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch". Due to the fanfare style, I wonder if perhaps this was an alternate take on the "End Credits" theme as the credits come to a close?

2:48 - 4:13 is the "Unable to Stay, Unwilling to Leave" pipe segment as used in the end credits.

4:13 - 5:37 is unused. I think this may have been intended for the scene where Lovejoy chases Jack and Rose before they end up in the boiler room? The timing seems right, including a longer "quiet" segment, which seems to fit the deleted scene where Jack talks to Rose about Lovejoy (in the deleted scenes).

5:38 - 7:06 is part of Death of Titanic, with some instrumentals removed, but at the very beginning you can clearly hear Horner instructing the orchestra. "And one, two..." Very cool!

7:07 - 7:40: unknown/unused. Sounds like some of the ambience when Rose first looks for Jack in the flooding corridors.

7:40 - 8:13: again, unknown and unused? May be an extension of the previous cue. No idea where this one is for.

8:13 - 9:00: I want to say this is part of the wreck music...I feel like this music was used in some of the early wreck scenes as the ghostly classical music, along with Nearer My God To Thee. It may also have been used in the ship your video on the special effects?

9:00 - end is Death to Titanic, pretty close to the album version.

In any event, great find! Keeps my hopes up :)

-BT7

theodred27
11-10-2012, 09:45 AM
Thank You again, I was wondering what was the name of the irish cue, I find it very cool.

plank3
11-12-2012, 12:58 AM
Was too late to grab this, now link says file is gone. Can you reup this?? Sounds like a treat.

Lehnaru
11-14-2012, 05:47 AM
At long last, I've finished my project. It's rushed and very roughly put together, but the material is all there, and that's what matters. I also included some bonus stuff. I used a tiny bit of Jean Baker's Southampton edit for one bonus track and found a few others on YouTube but I edited most of the material myself. They're all mp3s except for a couple, which are wmas. The files are zipped.

Titanic Complete Score (SFX) Part 1.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?hgphbnd2h146hl7)

Titanic Complete Score (SFX) Part 2.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?tzua94d3juc1jdg)

hahah123
11-14-2012, 08:14 AM
Thank you for your Titanic edit!!!

theodred27
11-14-2012, 07:27 PM
thanks you, Ive listened to wreck cue and this is a shame this wasn't on the OST

skeedrow22
11-16-2012, 04:33 AM
can you repost??

anakinbetrayal
11-16-2012, 06:42 PM
Please new link. Both are dead : "Permission Denied" Thanks !