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Agent0042
02-08-2010, 12:49 AM
I'm with Cultsworn Lich also.

ravenous19
02-08-2010, 05:12 AM
Cultsworn Lich

Slavka
02-08-2010, 05:30 PM
Not that it'll make much difference at this point, but... Vorres.

Zak
02-08-2010, 06:18 PM
Okay, it's only been one day, but might as well call this one. I thought again earlier about changing my vote, in which case it would have been a blowout, but whatever, might as well just call it a battle.

Cultsworn Lich 7-2 Vorres

Really one sided battle here, but this time, despite all the recent reaper victories, this time it's the reaper who gets reaped by the Lich. I guess a reprieve from having to hunt Etems isn't exactly a big deal! But yeah, Lich is the last to join the top 8, concluding this round!

Round 3 (or rather, the quarter-finals) will start shortly, later today or tonight. In the mean time feel free to discuss the results!

Zak
02-08-2010, 11:10 PM
Alright, time for the quarterfinals, round 3, 4 battles.

Round 3 - Battle 1

Disma

The little Zombie Warlock of doom that teaches you not to underestimate by size. Pyromania (or whatever that attack is he uses) helped it make its way into the top 8. Will tempt you no matter how many times you'll say "fuck Disma, I'm here for Gilgamesh" but then you'll keep thinking you can beat him.
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/73

VS.

Dustia

Out of the many reapers that were made into rare game and used in this rumble, this is the last one left standing... and it's got a huge following as well, considering what you can supposedly do with it early in the game. Most of you probably know how to spawn it and I don't need to explain anymore. But I think from the start we knew it'd at least make the quarterfinals.
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/61

Both of these seem to have followings... the Dustia thing sounds cool, though I never did it so I'm gonna give it to Disma. I will on my next playthrough though for sure!

Neg
02-09-2010, 12:35 AM
Disma

Agent0042
02-09-2010, 12:37 AM
Disma

ravenous19
02-09-2010, 06:51 AM
Disma

Smarty
02-09-2010, 07:28 AM
Dustia won't go without a fight.

Szczepan
02-09-2010, 10:52 AM
Disma

11 squall
02-09-2010, 12:49 PM
Disma

Slavka
02-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Ugh, tough choice... I'll go for Dustia.

Zak
02-10-2010, 09:04 PM
Disma 6-2 Dustia

Wow is Disma really that strong... and here I thought I was gonna be alone and Dustia would either be the winner or one of the finalists. Well, there's a kryptonite for everything... almost. Anyway, the all-powerful Disma dispenses Dustia and makes it to the top four!

Round 3 - Battle 2

Cultsworn Lich

The Lich who just was the last to win the last round in a near blowout. Raithwall, split off from other Liches in critical condition, early Loxley Bow. Even though that's available soon after with the Viera matchmaker sidequest.
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/22

VS.

Helvinek

Nightmare lurking in the Necrohol, one of the four chain-worthy ones who hold some Grand Armor. Not that hard to kill, but definitely annoying to chain since if you let it die you have to exit and reenter the Necrohol.
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/38

This time I'll go with Cultsworn Lich. I enjoyed that early Loxley Bow. I will have a Grand Armor... someday!

the high seraph
02-10-2010, 09:06 PM
Helvinek

Neg
02-10-2010, 09:15 PM
Helvinek

Still homeboy.

Agent0042
02-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Helvinek

wolfmaster913
02-11-2010, 05:19 AM
Cultsworn Lich

Szczepan
02-11-2010, 11:12 AM
Helvinek

Smarty
02-11-2010, 01:28 PM
Helvinek this time.

Slavka
02-11-2010, 05:25 PM
Helvinek

Zak
02-12-2010, 06:47 PM
Helvinek 6-2 Cultsworn Lich

So it looks like the Cultsworn Lich doesn't have much of a cult following anymore, as it was overtaken by that of Helvinek. Helvinek, welcome to the final four!

Round 3 - Battle 3

Anchag

The little brother of Ancbolder in the Paramina Rift, the one who's claim to fame is the easy Damascus Steel steal. Will that get it into the top 4?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/76

VS.

Bombshell

One of the two Bombs left in this rumble... I think that's the only species that there's more than one of left in the final eight. Yeah, this one's claim to fame is being one of the four rare drops, like Helvinek who just won, and the Yagyu Darkblade happens to be the one you're most likely to benefit from. Surely that makes a case for the top 4?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/49

I'll cast one for Bombshell this time. I got me a Yagyu!

Smarty
02-12-2010, 07:21 PM
Early Damascus steel or Yagyu? Hmmm

I hardly ever use the Darkblade, not even against Yiazmat (I prefer Masamune) so I'm going for Anchag

the high seraph
02-12-2010, 07:24 PM
Anchag

Agent0042
02-13-2010, 02:28 AM
I'm with Bombshell on this one.

Slavka
02-13-2010, 01:42 PM
Anchag

Szczepan
02-13-2010, 03:14 PM
Bombshell

wolfmaster913
02-13-2010, 09:53 PM
Anchag

Neg
02-13-2010, 09:57 PM
Anchag

Yagyu is nice, epic setting is better.

Hawkeye_1138
02-14-2010, 03:39 AM
Anchag

Yagyu is nice, epic setting is better.

same...plus the jagoff hasn't dropped a Yagyu yet so it can go to hell...

Zak
02-14-2010, 08:07 PM
Anchag 6-3 Bombshell

That's another rare-drop down, Bombshell goes kaboom. But, joining in the final four is our very own Anchag! Thing really has a following...

Last but not least, of the quarterfinals:

Round 3 - Battle 4

Matriarch Bomb

Bombshell just died, so here we have another bomb. Which is funny because while they are the same species, that's about the only thing they've got in common in terms of the hunt. Yeah, this is the one in the Stillshrine guarded by a hidden passage, Oilings, and a bunch of Berserk/Confuse traps. Will it make the final four and be luckier than the other Bomb?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/51

VS.

Cubus

And an Oiling, much like the ones it's opponent is guarded by. This is the one in the Sochen Cave Palace which is pre-determined based on the enemies you see in the last room... kind of a cool pattern, and how similar-looking ones can throw you off.
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/47

Tough choice, but we're near the end. I'm with Matriarch Bomb.

Neg
02-14-2010, 08:09 PM
Matriarch Bomb

Smarty
02-14-2010, 09:39 PM
Cubus Once again: Flans ftw!

Agent0042
02-14-2010, 09:39 PM
Matriarch Bomb

Slavka
02-15-2010, 12:00 AM
Cubus

Hawkeye_1138
02-15-2010, 02:30 AM
Bomb

ravenous19
02-15-2010, 03:38 AM
Matriarch Bomb

wolfmaster913
02-15-2010, 09:00 AM
Cubis

Szczepan
02-15-2010, 11:29 AM
Interesting fight, underdog angainst it's master. Hmmm, go Cubus!

Zak
02-16-2010, 06:05 PM
Matriarch Bomb 5-4 Cubus

And... our mama bomb ends up luckier than it's distant cousin, earning herself a place in the final four! This looks like the end for Cubus, but... this concludes the quarterfinals. I'll I'll put up the first semifinal battle shortly or later today. In the meantime feel free to discuss the results, as usual... I think I know who I'd like to see win out of the four left! But damn... this is really unpredictable.

Szczepan
02-16-2010, 07:24 PM
Unpredictability is what makes this rumble fun:)

Zak
02-17-2010, 01:31 AM
Yeah... I was sure it'll be either Negalmuur or Dustia, but now that they're both out I dunno.

Anyway, I'm loving the variety we got. A beneficial fight, a creative hunt, a tough boss, and an exclusive drop.

So let's do the first half...

Semifinals - Battle 1

Helvinek

Definitely the biggest in size, out of the final four. The only exclusive drop still standing, but aside from the fact that it looks cool I'm assuming it's fun to chain the phantom of the Necrohol. I have yet to try it!
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/38

VS.

Anchag

Who wants to steal some Damascus Steel? From a Dullahan (or Headless or whatever) walking around in a glaciery setting with some nice music playing in the background?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/76

I'm gonna say Anchag only because I never chained Helv.

Neg
02-17-2010, 01:33 AM
:( Hard decision ;;

Anchag

Sorry, Helvy.

Agent0042
02-17-2010, 01:46 AM
I'm going to have to say Helvinek purely on looks, because I never really did anything related to the items with either.

Hawkeye_1138
02-17-2010, 02:28 AM
Anchag

ravenous19
02-17-2010, 05:24 AM
Helvinek

wolfmaster913
02-17-2010, 07:50 AM
Anchag

the high seraph
02-17-2010, 07:13 PM
Helvinek

Szczepan
02-17-2010, 08:12 PM
Helvinek

Slavka
02-18-2010, 11:52 PM
Anchag

Zak
02-21-2010, 08:16 PM
Anchag 5-4 Helvinek

Really close battle... sorry about the long time, after two days we had a tie, so I thought, what the hell, we're in the semi's so I'll let the battles be longer. Now they're gonna be about 5 days long... unless there's a blowout.

So... Anchag's Damascus Steel really is popular, not that it doesn't have other redeeming qualities, but defeating Helvinek really is impressive!

But no worries, Helv fans, it'll show up competing for third place. But Anchag is now a finalist!

Semifinals - Part 2

Disma

The big (or little) sonovobitch power-house roaming the Lhusu Mines. Seemingly that way both in this rumble and in the game. Will it be a finalist?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/73

VS.

Matriarch Bomb

The big mom bomb hiding it's it's secret invisible lair in the Stillshrine of Miriam, guarded by Oilings and Confuse/Berserk traps. She really takes herself seriously... well, will that get her into the final?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/51

I'm done with Disma for now, Matriarch Bomb gets it here.

Slavka
02-21-2010, 09:40 PM
Disma

Agent0042
02-21-2010, 09:47 PM
Disma

the high seraph
02-21-2010, 10:11 PM
Disma

Hawkeye_1138
02-21-2010, 11:50 PM
Disma

Szczepan
02-21-2010, 11:51 PM
Disma

ravenous19
02-22-2010, 04:59 AM
Matriach Bomb

wolfmaster913
02-22-2010, 06:30 AM
After a coin flip: Matriarch Bomb.

Smarty
02-22-2010, 12:25 PM
Disma

Zak
02-27-2010, 07:43 PM
Okay, it's been six days, not five like I promised... but we had a day of downtime.

Disma 6-3 Matriarch Bomb

Wow... the little powerful almighty Disma makes it to the final! Matriarch Bomb goes kaboom and is out.

But that's not the last of it... now it gets a shot at third place. And that's happening right now!

3rd Place Battle

Helvinek

Cool looking thing that's holding Grand Armor in the Necrohol... but it just lost to Anchag. Anchag does have a thing about it, but will Helvinek make it to third place?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/38

VS.

Matriarch Bomb

A heavily guarded and really hidden bomb, but she just was detonated by Disma. But I mean, Disma, what do you expect... but will she make third place?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/51

And here once again I'll be voting for Matriarch Bomb.

Smarty
02-27-2010, 07:54 PM
Helvinek

Agent0042
02-27-2010, 09:47 PM
Helvinek

wolfmaster913
02-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Matriarch Bomb again.

Szczepan
02-27-2010, 10:47 PM
Helvinek

the high seraph
02-28-2010, 12:34 AM
Helvinek

Scryer
02-28-2010, 12:46 AM
Matriarch Bomb.

Hawkeye_1138
03-01-2010, 06:37 AM
Helvenik

Slavka
03-01-2010, 10:25 PM
Helvenik

ravenous19
03-04-2010, 02:25 AM
Matriarch Bomb

Bushbaby08
03-04-2010, 03:32 AM
Matriarch Bomb

Zak
03-05-2010, 10:58 PM
Helvinek 6-5 Matriarch Bomb


Long and incredibly close battle but the third place award goes to...

HELVINEK!!

Well, that was fun, Bomb wasn't so lucky once again, but Helvinek was destined to make the top three due to its cool look and unique properties.

Well, time for the...

FINAL BATTLE

Anchag

Who would have thought that a Damascus Steel steal would be strong enough to take someone all the way to be a finalist?! Well, it's got a lot of other interesting things like a brother, and being in the Paramina Rift... well, bravo Anchag for making the final, can it take this rumble?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/76

VS.

Disma

Ah, the Zombie Warlock... that little son of a bitch made it to the final battle! We all knew it would go far, but honestly I'm not sure I was expecting it to make the final. Pyromania or whatever they call it... that's the secret weapon. Can it's uncanny strength make this thing worthy of taking this rumble?
http://www.ff12maps.com/imageborder.php?i=rares/73


So the final... I love how it's between two monsters who are tiny, and not some huge memorable beast. As for the vote... gotta go with Disma!

Agent0042
03-06-2010, 12:38 AM
It definitely has to be Disma for me.

Scryer
03-06-2010, 01:06 AM
Anchag

Hawkeye_1138
03-06-2010, 01:37 AM
Disma

Szczepan
03-06-2010, 12:27 PM
Disma definitely.

Slavka
03-06-2010, 10:43 PM
Disma

ravenous19
03-07-2010, 12:04 AM
Disma

wolfmaster913
03-07-2010, 07:00 AM
Anchag

Here's hoping that he can knock out the last of the 100,000 (almost literally) HP that Disma has. Not that it looks very likely.

the high seraph
03-07-2010, 06:55 PM
Disma

Zak
03-11-2010, 09:02 AM
Well, time to see the results...

Disma 7-2 Anchag

So it's decided, the winner of this battle and entire rumble goes to...

DISMA!!

Rather one-sided for a final battle... which is surprising consider Anchag almost slaughtered everything. Well, guess this proves that you simply don't mess with the Disma.


Okay that was fun, glad the Rare Game notion worked out... I love how the winner was something tiny and not something titan-looking.

Someone else can pick this up if they want to, but if no one does, I might start it up again.

But still, please give ideas. I can't think of any more, but if you can think of something good I just might do it!

the high seraph
03-11-2010, 05:21 PM
Uh...
Weapons?
Enemy abilities? (Cyclone, Monarch sword, Pyromania etc.)
Quickenings? (that would be kinda short though)
...Technicks?

I think I can see why it's hard to think of more...

wolfmaster913
03-11-2010, 08:40 PM
I like the idea of Quickenings, Technicks, or Weapons. I think the Weapons would be particularly interesting.

Zak
03-13-2010, 05:20 AM
Okay, I kind of like weapons. I think we can try that! In fact, I prefer the idea of EQUIPMENT, rather than merely weapons. Like... shields, armor, shoes, accessories, etc.
So, it's decided.

Of course, I'm not going to use them all, so I'll let you all nominate them.

Also, let's not forget that the use of them is far from the only factor, some equipment have memorable ways to get or tricks with them.

I'll let the nominations begin now. Nominate ANY equipment... also, like last time, don't have to but I'd appreciate if you justified them as well, if it's not obvious. Like, so I'd know what to say in the description...

Scryer
03-13-2010, 08:26 AM
Rose Corsage: It's a simple but very handy equipment to have. Stick it on your magic casters and they won't be hindered.
White Mask: Ultima's bane =P .
Black Mask: Dark user's bane =P .

Szczepan
03-13-2010, 12:28 PM
Celebrant's Mitre After getting it quite early from Barheim Passage chest, it was on my characters till almost the end of game.

Mythril Sword Fun factor - if you sold it early, the only other way to get it is a rare drop from Omega :D

Hermes Sandals auto haste, quite easy to make on bazaar

Maximilian one of the best heavy armor, available after Tomb of Raithwall

Nihapaloa (or whatever it is called) very useful and fun to use, thanks to this I actually used items

Red Scorpion The most random weapon out there

Agent0042
03-13-2010, 09:59 PM
Golden Amulet
Embroidered Tippet
Cat-ear Hood
Bubble Belt
Genji Gloves


Blood Sword
Deathbringer
Tournesol
Yagyu Darkblade
Zodiac Spear
Whale Whisker
Formalhaut

Demon Shield
Zodiac Escutcheon
Grand Armor
Circlet
All Genji Armor

the high seraph
03-13-2010, 11:27 PM
Danjuro - Something to add to reasons why I hate the great crystal
Ensanguined shield - High evade stat and annoying status effects
That Seitengrate bow from the IZJS version - 223 attack power and it's invisible
Duelling mask - High HP boost
Excalibur - Great weapon against undead monsters and high attack power
Wyrmhero Blade - What you have to go through to get it....and then it's useless
Diamond armlet - Pretty much renders Cerobi steppe treasures useless without it

wolfmaster913
03-14-2010, 02:50 AM
Hmmm, nobody has mentioned:

Ribbon - Status immunities
Demonsbane - Nice sword to use until Deathbringer, also you have to kill the 2nd Demon Wall
Gladius - Another early power-house
Black Mask and White Mask - Absorb respective Dark/Holy magics
Orrachea Amulet - +25 HP, given by Tomaj at the beginning of the game
Sage's Ring - Half-priced spells, absorbs Holy

Szczepan
03-14-2010, 03:27 AM
Megapower Shishak - very nice helmet

btw or maybe we will put armor sets together? Greand Helmt and Armor, Maximilian and Megapower Shishak?

non-canon sousaphone
03-15-2010, 08:16 PM
Trango Tower: A spear named after the tallest cliffs in the world. Ooooh... o.o
Fomalhaut: Best gun in the game and makes 122333 challenges possible.
Yagyu Darkblade: Yiazmat's kryptonite. :3
Miter: You can kill monsters with the pope's hat.
Murasame: Best way to do Water damage, sans Aqua Bombs.
Eculid's Sextant: Best tanking weapon in the game on par with the Main Gauche.

The Anti-Existence
03-19-2010, 10:17 PM
Masamune. From what I hear, it can be the deadliest thing in the game when used right.

Zak
03-20-2010, 02:23 AM
Alright that's it... I think I'll probably start soon as soon as I count them. Also Agent, I know I said you didn't need to but do you mind explaining a few of the choices? I mean, yes a lot of your choices are definitely obvious, but a few I'm not clear on like Blood Sword etc.

The main reason I ask for these justifications really is so I'd have something worthwhile to say in the description if it's not already apparent to me why it's here...

Szczepan
03-20-2010, 03:40 PM
Let's not forget Main Gauche, with EVA 34 it does shield's job better than most shields in the game.

Agent0042
03-20-2010, 09:46 PM
Sure, Zak -- just list any others you feel aren't obvious and I'll be happy to explain them. As for the Blood Sword- I just really liked using it and inflicting Sap on the enemy.

Zak
03-20-2010, 11:46 PM
Alright, just the deathbringer, whale whisker, and demon shield... some I kind of have an idea but never used them so not entirely sure.

Agent0042
03-21-2010, 02:21 AM
Ah, well, the Deathbringer's easy. It has a 10% chance of killing any target each time it strikes-- definitely a pretty cool weapon to have. The Demon Shield has 40% evasion, but more than that, it absorbs all dark damage. As for the Whale Whisker, I mainly just included because it's the strongest type of pole, so if you like using that type of weapon, it's the one for you.

Zak
03-21-2010, 04:31 AM
Okay. Scezepan I said the nominations were closed, but I'll let it in since Main Gauche was mentioned. Alright from here, no more. I'll count soon and let you know what's happening.

Zak
03-21-2010, 10:24 AM
Okay, that kind of took a while to count, due to there being some repetition in the nominations.
Also, sorry if this upsets anyone, but I don't want to use Trango Tower or Seitengrate, only because I'd imagine most people here haven't played the international version (myself included) so it wouldn't be fair.
Another nomination I think I might reject is the Red Scorpion... sorry, unless you can come up with a better qualifying reason for it to be here. Even "it has a cool name" is a good enough reason... but I'm gonna have to go against what was said.

And that leaves a total of 44. I think what I'm gonna do is come up with four more myself, because 48 is a good number. So... watch this space, gonna get started soon.

By the way, anyone know where I can get pictures of the weapons/shields?

Szczepan
03-21-2010, 02:53 PM
Weapons (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_XII_Weapons) and Shields (http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/dukedon/FF-XII/Khieng/)

btw I also nominated Red Scorpion, because it can be the earliest "best of it's kind" weapon ( when not counting Zodiac Spear )- it's possible to make it after the 1st visit in Henne Mines. It can also randomly do the max damage at low levels, but it's true that later it will gather dust in inventory:)

Zak
03-21-2010, 08:44 PM
Okay, well then it's in. Next time say something like that... ok.

TheFiercePhilosopher
04-23-2010, 03:49 AM
wake up people

Agent0042
04-23-2010, 04:03 AM
Yeah, are we still doing this one, Zak?

Zak
04-23-2010, 08:05 AM
Soon. Yes.

Zak
05-16-2010, 04:32 AM
Alright I am a man of my word so I think I will start this pretty soon either tonight or within the next couple days!

Agent0042
05-27-2010, 03:09 AM
So... yes? No? Don't know. If you really don't think you wanna do it anymore, just say so and it can be opened up for someone else, or we can just leave it to rest for now. There are a lot of rumbles going currently.

feralanima
06-04-2010, 11:00 PM
Is this going to continue?

Zak
06-06-2010, 07:10 AM
Sorry, forgot about it... I posted this like on the last day of finals week two days before I was free, but forgot about it since. Well, I guess I can pick it up, but if someone else wants it they can feel free. Right now I can't be bothered... I may change my mind spontaneously, but in the mean time just ignore that and if anyone wants this they can have it.

If no one takes it and I feel like it for whatever reason, I'll do it when/if I feel like it. But as long as I haven't, someone else may.

Hawkeye_1138
11-11-2010, 05:15 AM
Is this still up for grabs or anything?...yes I know I'm bumping a five plus month thread...

Agent0042
11-11-2010, 05:18 AM
Wow, didn't expect to see this again. Per Zak's post just above yours, it's up for grabs. That remains in effect.

Zak
11-11-2010, 09:06 AM
Yeah, you want it, you got it.

Hawkeye_1138
11-12-2010, 07:57 AM
Cool. Do you have a list of the weapons/etc. that got nominated so I don't have to go hunting through every post?

Zak
11-12-2010, 08:15 AM
No I do not, sorry, I quit this before I got around to compiling it.

wolfmaster913
11-16-2010, 06:55 AM
In an effort to see this not die out again, I have gone through all of the posts since Zak started nominations, and these are what have been nominated.

Weapons (17) -

Mythril Sword
Blood Sword
Deathbringer
Tournesol
Yagyu Darkblade
Zodiac Spear
Whale Whisker
Formalhaut
Danjuro
Excalibur
Wyrmhero Blade
Demonsbane
Gladius
Murasame
Masamune
Main Gauche
Elucid's Sextant

Armor (14) -

Demon Shield
Zodiac Escutcheon
Grand Armor
Circlet
Genji Shield
Genji Helm
Genji Armor
Black Mask
White Mask
Celebrant's Miter
Maximilian
Ensanguined shield
Duelling mask
Megapower Shishak

Accessories (13) -

Rose Corsage
Hermes Sandals
Nihopalaoa
Golden Amulet
Embroidered Tippet
Cat-ear Hood
Bubble Belt
Genji Gloves
Diamond armlet
Ribbon
Orrachea Amulet
Sage's Ring
Genji Armlet

That brings the total to 44. I left off the weapons that are only in the International Zodiac Job System version since most of us have probably not played it. If you need help coming up with another 4 to bring the total to a nice even 48, just let me know and I can pick out a few. Also, if you need to know why a certain piece of equipment is on the list, I can help with that.

Zak
11-16-2010, 09:19 AM
I can probably come up with four more after thinking a bit, but how about adding the Grand Helm for a start.

Edit: Perhaps Mythril Blade as well...

Edit again: Alright, add Staff of the Magi and Rod of Faith. Just for the unique ways to get them. Both have their uses as well, of course!

There are a lot of "most powerful" weapons of certain classes not included, like Grand Mace and Volcano. But I never saw any special use of them.

EDIT ONCE AGAIN: Alright, I know I keep adding more, but Sagittarius I noticed is not on the list... perhaps being the most powerful bow (long range) is good? No?

Well, I'll leave it up to Hawkeye or Wolf or whoever to choose four of the ones I mentioned. Well, it's up to Hawkeye of course, but just interested in wolfmaster's opinion of which four of the ones I mentioned would be best.

wolfmaster913
11-17-2010, 05:58 AM
I like the Staff of the Magi and the Rod of Faith. One I also thought about was the Firefly accessory. It makes all experience earned become zero and is a must for a 122333 playthrough. The Sagittarius is the strongest bow, but also the Burning Bow can be obtained extremely early, and when combined with Fiery Arrows, deals insane ranged damage. The four in bold would be my choices.

Edit: Then again, there is the extremely sexy Ultima Blade. The 4th strongest great sword behind Excalibur, Tournesol, and the Wyrmhero Blade. Plus, you can get two of them, the one from the bazaar being very early.

Zak
11-17-2010, 06:04 AM
Oh dammit, forgot about the Firefly.

I like your choices, wolf, but... what about the Grand Helm? I mean, Grand Armor, Danjuro, and Yagyu are there, so this one would be somewhat essential... or not?

Hawkeye_1138
11-17-2010, 09:30 PM
I'll go with Wolf's nomination just so this can get rolling again. I can't put put my two bits in for the ultra goodies, since I haven't subjected myself to that much teeth pulling busy work in a couple years...

Edit: Wolf I give you kudos for doing the dirty work I was too lazy to do...

wolfmaster913
11-18-2010, 05:21 AM
Not a problem. I needed something to use as an excuse to procrastinate from doing homework, anyway. :)

Hawkeye_1138
11-30-2010, 04:47 PM
Alright here's the updated list:

Weapons (20) -
Mythril Sword
Blood Sword
Deathbringer
Tournesol
Yagyu Darkblade
Zodiac Spear
Whale Whisker
Formalhaut
Danjuro
Excalibur
Wyrmhero Blade
Demonsbane
Gladius
Murasame
Masamune
Main Gauche
Euclid's Sextant
Staff of the Magi
Rod of Faith
Burning Bow

Armor (14) -
Demon Shield
Zodiac Escutcheon
Grand Armor
Circlet
Genji Shield
Genji Helm
Genji Armor
Black Mask
White Mask
Celebrant's Miter
Maximilian
Ensanguined shield
Dueling mask
Magepower Shishak

Accessories (14) -
Rose Corsage
Hermes Sandals
Nihopalaoa
Golden Amulet
Embroidered Tippet
Cat-ear Hood
Bubble Belt
Firefly
Genji Gloves
Diamond armlet
Ribbon
Orrachea Amulet
Sage's Ring
Genji Gloves

The format for how I'll try the first round will go as thus: Fights will be matched from the top of the list and the bottom of the list. There will be three fights per rumble; one for weapons, armour, and accessories. Similar to Agent's system in general Final Fantasy where rounds were doubled up and you voted for two options. I'll probably end the rumble after three days or so, pending on how many people vote.

Starting things off

Weapons:
Mythril Sword vs. Burning Bow
Mythril Sword:

Vaan's initial weapon, 13 attack power. If you sell it, the only other way to obtain it is through a rare drop by Omega Mark XIII (good luck with that).
Burning Bow:

If you buy this during the storyline it's just a normal bow. But if you go farming in the Westersand early on, you get it as a rare drop from Dive Talons.

Armor:
Demon Shield vs. Magepower Shishak
Demon Shield:

+40 Evade and absorption of Dark-elemental attacks. It costs 11,200 gil to buy (pricey) from the Baknamy merchant in the Necrohol of Nabudis, but I've always found it elsewhere either in drops or chests.
Magepower Shishak: Again sold by the Baknamy Merchant, it is the second strongest helmet in the game and the only helmet to increase magic power.

Accessories:
Rose Corsage vs. Genji Armlet
Rose Corsage: Wearer becomes immune to silence.
Genji Gloves: Improves chance of combo attacks (great with katanas). Only gained from Gilgamesh during first encounter.

If you have any feedback post it with your vote(s)...

EDIT: I'll be coloring the weapons/etc that have been cut with a different color pending on the round...first round is magenta btws...

Agent0042
11-30-2010, 04:53 PM
Burning Bow, Demon Shield and Genji Gloves

Also, people, it's the final battle of the current edition of my rumble and so far there's only been one vote. If more people would stop by, I would appreciate that.

Zak
11-30-2010, 07:35 PM
Mythril Sword, Demon Shield, Genji Gloves.

Dive Talons are a bitch to fight early, so not worth it.

wolfmaster913
11-30-2010, 08:16 PM
Burning Bow

Demon Shield

Rose Corsage

I went for the early Burning Bow off of the Dive Talons and had a lot of fun with it in my last playthrough, so it gets my vote here. The Demon Shields made me a lot of money while I was killing the Abysteels in the Henne Mines to top off my levels. I went with the Rose Corsage because I really disliked the Genji Gloves. Also, it's great to be back on this board doing stuff.

Zak
11-30-2010, 10:06 PM
What I wonder is how the Genji Gloves affect the RNG trick... but yeah sorry.

Neg
11-30-2010, 10:11 PM
Mythril Sword
Demon Shield
Genji Gloves.

Dive Talons are a bitch to fight early, so not worth it.

Hawkeye_1138
12-03-2010, 08:55 PM
Tie 2-2 in weapons...I wanted to wait until at least round 2 to throw my vote in; but I'll use mine now for the tie breaker here...Mythril Sword
...

Armour
Demon Shield shuts out the Magepower Shishak 4-0

Accessories
Genji Gloves win 3-1 against Rose Corsage...

Will post next battle after classes...

Hawkeye_1138
12-04-2010, 02:49 AM
Rod of Faith vs. Blood Sword

Rod of Faith:

Ultimate rod in the game, obtained by 'examining' a rock on Mt. Bur-Omisace after defeating the Behemoth King.
Blood Sword:

Recurring weapon in the series appears in the XII, adds 41 attack power to the user, and inflicts sap ailment on enemies.

Sage's Ring vs. Hermes Sandals
Sage's Ring: 1/2 mp cost and absorb holy attacks. Hefty price tag of 22,000 gil, but can be stolen from the trophy rare game Arioch.
Hermes Sandals: Wearer equipped with auto-haste. Handy, but they also come at a high price (18,000 gil at the bazaar and 20,000 new).

Zodiac Escutcheon vs. Dueling Mask

Zodiac Escutcheon:
(Image of an Escutcheon but I honestly think they're the same)
Shield with immunity to thunder and +50 evasion, making it the best shield aside from the Ensanguined Shield for evasion.Only found in the hairiest of dungeons in the game...
Dueling Mask: Best light armour available; found in the Pharos. +45 Mag Res and +2 Str and +800 hp...

Agent0042
12-04-2010, 02:51 AM
Blood Sword, Hermes Sandals, Zodiac Escutcheon

Zak
12-04-2010, 03:09 AM
The Zodiac Escutcheon is actually reversed and a different color I think.

Rod of Faith, Hermes Sandals, Zodiac Escutcheon.

Blood Sword would be more interesting if it did what it did in IX.

Also Agent I got your message, you just barely missed me.

Neg
12-05-2010, 04:38 AM
Blood Sword, Hermes Sandals, Zodiac Escutcheon

wolfmaster913
12-06-2010, 12:49 AM
Rod of Faith

Sage's Ring

Dueling Mask

Hawkeye_1138
12-24-2010, 12:20 AM
Sorry about the delay, was hoping someone would break the tie by chance but I'll just pitch in again...Blood Sword
Zodiac Escutcheon: 3 Dueling Mask: 1
Hermes Sandals: 3 Sage's Ring: 1

Next Round:
Deathbringer vs. Staff of Magi
Deathbringer:
(http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/index.php?title=List_of_Final_Fantasy_XII_Weapons&image=DeathbringerFFXII-png)
Attack power of 90, the most powerful sword you can buy outside the Bazaar, 10% chance of KO.

Staff of Magi:
(http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/index.php?title=List_of_Final_Fantasy_XII_Weapons&image=Staff_of_the_Magi-png)
Most powerful stave in the game. Steal from Luxollid (after beating Vagrant Soul/Seer). Greatly increases power of Holy spells.

Armor
Grand Armor vs. Ensanguined Shield

Grand Armor: Strongest heavy armor; drop from rare game from Helvinek.
Ensanguined Shield: Gives the player 90 evasion, but inflicted with Sap, Poison, and Slow. FFWiki says you find it places, but I honestly cannot remember where I found mine (I think maybe every time I tried to fight the Behemoth King I found a chest with it, or maybe it's given to you at some point?).

Accessories
Nihopalaoa vs. Orrachea Amulet

Nihopalaoa: Reverse the effect of curative items. Very handy early on in boss/mark fights with remedies. Obtainable in Bazaar only (Muthru and normal Bazaars).
Orrachea Armlet: +25 HP to wearer. First accessory given to Vaan by Tomaj (and no the tutorial is not skippable...)

wolfmaster913
12-24-2010, 01:37 AM
Deathbringer

Ensanguined Shield

Orrachea Armlet

The Deathbringer was an easy choice. It is a pain in the butt to obtain, but if you get it early, you can basically walk through the rest of the game with ease. The others were a little tougher, but I never really used the Nihopalaoa, and the Ensanguined Shield is just fun.

Neg
02-01-2011, 09:58 PM
BUMP BUMP BUMP ME UP~

Deathbringer

Grand Armor Helvinek REPRESENT

Nihopalaoa It's a fun word, and can come in handy for cheap shenanigans.

Hawkeye_1138
02-06-2011, 05:18 AM
About time...but I don't feel there is a point in updating if 2/3 of the battles are tied...

Neg
02-06-2011, 05:26 AM
I feel ya. Been in your shoes. Whatever you want to do is fine with me. Agent might feel different, but he can't deny the pragmatics of it, in the end.

Agent0042
02-06-2011, 05:26 AM
Sorry, I'll vote...

Deathbringer - loved this one, very useful.

Grand Armor - I never got the other one, it was too hard to get.

Orrachea Armlet - I never used the other one.

Olde
02-08-2011, 01:10 AM
Death Bringer

Grand Armor

Orrachea Armlet!!!!!! (I want this one to win the rumble)

Hawkeye_1138
03-13-2011, 06:58 PM
Okay sorry for the long delay

Deathbringer: 4
Staff of Magi: 0

Grand Armour: 3
Ensanguined Shield: 1

Orrachea Armlet: 3
Nihopalaoa: 1

Moving on:

Weapons: Euclid's Sextant vs. Tournesol

Euclid's Sextant:
(http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/index.php?title=List_of_Final_Fantasy_XII_Weapons&image=Euclid-27s_Sextant-png)
Reward for Wild Marlboro hunt. User equipped with Bubble and 50% chance of inflicting Bubble on target.
Tournesol:
(http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/index.php?title=List_of_Final_Fantasy_XII_Weapons&image=Tournesol-png)
Most powerful great sword in the game, available through Bazaar only after going on busy work quest to get the items...

Armour: Maximilian vs. Circlet
Maximilian: Recurring series armour, second strongest heavy armour (only heavy armour to add magic res stat), available from the Baknamy Merchant.
Circlet: Most powerful mystic head armour, found only in Pharos at Ridorana.

Accessories: Golden Amulet vs. Ribbon
Golden Amulet: Doubles LP earned. Works on reserve party members. Available in Rabanastre and Mt. Bur-Omnisace...
Ribbon: Notable recurring accessory, immunity to all negative status effects. Drops from Vishno/Lv.99 Red Chocobo; treasure in Henne Mines/Cerobi Steppe/Pharos at Ridorana.

Agent0042
03-13-2011, 09:22 PM
Tournesol, Maximillian and Golden Amulet. Note on the last one - Ribbon just wasn't all that useful in this game, but double LP was excellent. Oh, and I believe the Golden Amulet is also available from the moogle in Eruyt Village past a certain point, after you clear the scenario at the mines.

Olde
03-13-2011, 09:34 PM
Tournesol, Maximillian, Golden Amulet

Neg
03-13-2011, 10:25 PM
Tournesol, Maximillian, Golden Amulet

omfgkevin
03-19-2011, 04:54 PM
Tournesol, Maximillian, Golden Amulet

Two handed swords ftw, don't like magic armor,and double LP rules.

wolfmaster913
04-21-2011, 06:35 AM
Tournesol

Maximillian

Ribbon

Hehe, this just happens to be the setup for one of my main characters.

Szczepan
04-21-2011, 03:50 PM
Tournesol

Maximillian

Ribbon

Hawkeye_1138
04-28-2011, 05:14 AM
Tournesol: 6
Sextant: 0

Maximilian: 6
Circlet: 0

Golden Amulet: 4
Ribbon: 2

I'll try to update this shortly...

---------- Post added at 12:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:14 AM ----------

Tournesol: 6
Sextant: 0

Maximilian: 6
Circlet: 0

Golden Amulet: 4
Ribbon: 2

I'll try to update this shortly...

Szczepan
12-12-2011, 03:25 PM
Hawkeye?