Sweet. I've got all the pics uploaded, the lists randomized and the match-ups set. I'm halfway through writing the first round (16 of the 32 matches format coded with the pics embedded). That way, if I'm unable to, Allen can post rounds just by copypasta'ing them from the completed document.

Please, still suggest places you'd like to see in. I can swap them in no problem.

Where's Ari and DJ :( I feel really sad now, because we'll only have 4 people voting and that doesn't really work ;_;

Did you know you can go on the bus in the original? I didn't know til 5 minutes ago.

What bus?

Oh, wait. nvm.

The one in front of Midwich Elem.

What are these locations? I tried to enter both and NO GO.

I really don't think you can even go inside those places... At least, I don't remember anything about it.

Is the school bus on the map?

Doesn't look like it. Those buildings I circled are pink like all the other places you enter. Maybe the map was made before the final pass of the game and those areas weren't completed.

Maybe. I haven't played the first one in a while. Have you tried entering them? I know you have the game.

Yep, tried to enter both of them. Didn't even get a message that they were locked or anything.

I'm going to try to get to them in the nightmare streets.

I don't even remember if any of those kinds of buildings told you they were locked if you tried opening them. I know in Homecoming it did but not in any of the others. If it's a place you couldn't enter, then nothing would show up.

WAIT!! THE ONE BY THE SCHOOL IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE SEWERS!

Yeah, that's on the Residential area map. I posted the shopping district map :smrt:

Damn. It was worth a shot lol. I never actually ran into the sewers until I had to go inside so I have no idea where it actually is.

I didn't on my first playthrough either. It's so dark at that point and you almost want to get into the school pretty badly. I usually wander around the streets leading to K. Gordon's house before going in now, picking up items and such.

I was going to be upset that Andy's books isn't in the right location in 1, but lo and behold there is a sign advertising it in the resort area :o

Seriously, though, I need to re-read Silent Pyramid's plot analysis, because I'm having a hard time figuring out just how long a gap there is between Origins and 1. Alessa is clearly older, and it would give the town's layout time to change, if that is the intent.

Plus Dahlia has had time to age and start dressing like a religious loony instead of white trash :p

I'd say probably around 10 years give or take.

The Good ending sees the Flauros create a newborn baby that contains half of Alessa's soul, and Travis returning to his truck as Alessa carries the baby out of town. Through radio static, the player first hears that Harry Mason and his wife find and adopt the baby, naming her Cheryl, and then that Kaufmann and Dahlia plan to use a summoning spell to draw the other half of Alessa's soul back to the town, even though it may take a great deal of time (specifically, seven years).

It's been a while since I've seen the good ending. That damn Tesla rifle is just too inviting ;)

So, you were right.

Radio? What's going on with that radio?

:D

No for reals "Where is everybody?"

this thread just sort of stopped?

Not really? Me and IDX were discussing 1, the rumble is going well, SM next month.

I think we're fine?

The clean text, oh the clean text:

I heard SM got another push to like December 8 or something...

I might be wrong.

Oh for fucks sake, it did :mad:

LOL!


Radio? What's going on with that radio?

:D
Me and my old roommate used to make fun of that line so many times in college :). Even though the school was kinda gay, I do miss my buddies and the shit we always got ourselves in to.

Homage to the picture-card door in Midwich Elem?



I love having the PS2 on my hdtv. I can take pictures w/o black bars :D

Yes, yes you may.

Hahaha!

...

I don't get it.

Henry moves through holes, and some of them are in Silent Hill. One of them was in Neely's Bar (and arguably in Labyrinth), so why shouldn't there be in Blue Creek? He's a little hard up for cash, atm, and he figures he can hit up his old friend James.

Oh, that's Henry. For some strange reason, I thought it was Harry. Uh-doi. ;-)

I love having the PS2 on my hdtv. I can take pictures w/o black bars :D
Hell yeah. I wish I had an LCD instead of plasma though :(. I can't play my PS2 for too long or the image will burn (because it doesn't fill the whole screen, just the middle unless there's a widescreen option in the game).

That sucks :( Are they still making plasmas? Or were they smart enough to stop production?

I know Vizio stopped. And as far as I know, the burning of images in plasmas was a way of the past. The owner of the comic book store that I get my games and stuff has a plasma that doesn't burn. He said they fixed it a long time ago.

I just happened to get the short end of the stick because it was a common thing among plasmas when I got mine :(. If I knew the hassle, I would've gotten LCD instead.

:(

I was going to write a whole rant about the puzzles in the hard mode of 3, but I'll just see if you guys are interested in such a discussion. Wouldn't want to spoil them if you wanted to try them yourselves someday.

Let me know if you want to know how ass backwards they are.

LOL. The puzzles were something else in 3 in the hardest mode...

Yes. The word is bullshit.

Just for Ari, atm:
Two of the birds on the crematorium puzzle are reversed. And that verse they say has nothing to do with Shakespeare actually describes Macbeth, BUT, the screenshot for the memo after you clear it, has Macbeth sitting as the last book because it supposedly wasn't mentioned. But it goes like 3rd and that's fine because the multiplication part has it going to zero anyway :mad: :mad: :mad:

Hey Ari, did you know that Alessa/Cheryl/Heather had a doll named Scarlett?

I was not aware of that, Neg. How do you know all this detailed info? ;)

Obsessive pushing of the X button :smrt:

Wiki's got nothing on you. :D

I'm trying really hard to remember if there was a bank robbery mentioned. There has to have been, it wouldn't be sticking in my brain like this if there wasn't. That person is someone's son ;)

Also, I just remembered to wonder about Mary's connection to Alex's family. Mary Shepherd-Sunderland, yo~

There was a picture here. It's gone now.

The guy in Saw reaches in a full toilet. I squeed pretty hard :D

"Ew... forget it. This is way too gross. Who would even think of doing something so disgusting!?"

Hey Neg, your sig is interesting. Looks like a Power Rangers stance. :D

Its Keanu in Constantine!

Yep! Never thought about it, but it does seem like one :D



INTO THE LIGHT, I COMMAND THEE

I figured it was time to put my Halloween costume on~

Heh. Make sure to send us photos. :)

I'm heading to a military store tomorrow to see if I can find an Alex Shepherd jacket, flashlight, and radio. Hopefully it won't be too expensive.

I just meant my av and sig. I think I've used Constantine all 3 years. I did have a real costume set up mostly, one year. I just needed to order the inkjet temporary tattoo paper.

I've got the clothes and the Robitussen DM bottle. Would just need a new thing of hair dye, a pack of cigs, and that paper.

Scored a semi-looking Alex Shepherd jacket today. Went to several places and had a hard time finding one. It's more olive green than beige, but it seems close enough. Just need to get a military flashlight and a walktalkie radio to hook to the jacket, as well as the infamous metal pipe.

I vote you buy an ax. Those things are really useful.

Scored a semi-looking Alex Shepherd jacket today. Went to several places and had a hard time finding one. It's more olive green than beige, but it seems close enough. Just need to get a military flashlight and a walktalkie radio to hook to the jacket, as well as the infamous metal pipe.

Don't forget his dog tags! Because he's a SOLDIER.

Yeah, an Ex-SOLDIER?

Lol. Let's not compare Alex to that tool of a protagonist~

I wasn't quite awake when I said the above. They do have that large glaring similarity, don't they?

Don't forget his dog tags! Because he's a SOLDIER.

You're right. Good call, IDX. Totally forgot about those. I'll make sure to get those too when I get the flashlight.


Lol. Let's not compare Alex to that tool of a protagonist~

:confused:

Didn't know you were a Cloud fan...

You're right. Good call, IDX. Totally forgot about those. I'll make sure to get those too when I get the flashlight.

There was this place that you could order dog tags from and have it say whatever you want, but I can't remember. It was years ago and my brother was telling me about it. I'm sure you can find some place online and have them make custom tags so Alex Shepherd would be the name or something.

Unless you just don't want to go into that much detail.

Could go to wal-mart and make his own dog tag, it won't be all great and jazz but it's something.

Don't you mean

Adam Shepherd

? ;)

Didn't know you were a Cloud fan...

Final Fantasy? Never played any of the games... so I'm only familiar with Cloud from KH. I wouldn't consider myself a fan. ;)

Then why the sad face at me calling him a tool?

Don't you mean

Adam Shepherd

? ;)

Shhh~

Don't want to spoil it now, do we ;)?

Then why the sad face at me calling him a tool?

I was confused by your statement in general. I didn't know you were referring to Cloud from the very start. ;)

Picked up the final parts of the costume today. Got the flashlight, dog tages, and steel pipe. I actually considered picking up the axe as my prop, but I wasn't really digging those at the hardware store, so I stuck with the pipe.

Is it a rusty looking pipe?

Oh wait, was Alex's rusty?

It's not rusty though. I want to be able to return it to Home Depot after Halloween. ;)

Lol nice :D!

You should get a crowbar instead... .......

I did not care for that crowbar. It shows up in the pre-rendered shots of the Scarlett fight, whether you have it equipped or not.

That's true. But I never used the crowbar for melee attacks. It was the ax (before I got the alien pistol).

Hell, I even beat the final boss with the steel pipe because I forgot to grab the bag with my stuff in it. Since then, I have thought of a steel pipe as a great weapon in any scenerio (sp?).

I need to spend more time with the game to try out other weapons, but the pipe was just really slow for me.

I used the dagger religiously. Hehe, yay puns :D

I was making fun, since Alex is the only Silent that loses his pipe... and if you retrieve your items then you lose it again...

That's because they've added "weapon upgrades" to the game. Which isn't like Silent Hill at all really because THEY KEEP EVERYTHING!

You don't have to put the Shakespeare Anthologies back on the shelf in Hard Puzzle mode. You can keep them the whole game.

Okay, so it says right on the map that Alchemilla is now the home of the mentally ill. I didn't pick up the map last time, in case you're curious as to why this is revelatory to me.

I wonder what prompted the switch. Did Brookhaven burn down? Get too full? Same questions for Cedar Grove. Brookhaven could so get it's own game like Arkham Asylum, I'd bet, if they were willing to tell its entire history.

I still want a Civil War-era entry in the series.

Was it Alchemilla the hospital from the first game also? Or was it Brookhaven?

Yeah, Alchemilla is in the original, and Origins. Only Alessa's room from it is in 3. It's a regular hospital, though. So, somewhere between Harry's visit and Alex's committal, it changed over. Heather's experience of it falls under spatial synthesis and so does nowhere, so yeah, after Harry visits it.

Brookhaven is in 2 and 3. It's in South Vale, so Harry and Travis never get over there.

Gotcha. I keep forgetting that some of the games take place in different areas in Silent Hill.

Okay, I used the map Allen found to make this. I need to double check on how much of the shopping district has changed for Alex when I get there, since I can't find a Homecoming map :( I'm also pretty sure Shepherd's Glen is to the West, hence the arrow.



Photobucket is a punk and keeps shrinking this, which defeats the purpose. So, here's a link to get your very own "complete" Silent Hill map. It's not really complete at all. adlfja;dlkfja;dlkfja;sdlfkja;sdflkj

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ts6qf8

I've run into a bit of a snag with my Alex costume... having the hardest time ever finding a walkie talkie/radio like the one Alex wears on his jacket... really the only piece I need now... I've been advised to look in a pawn shop, so I'm hoping I can find one there (especially with as many as there are in Austin).

Neg,
Where did you get that picture of Alex in your signature? Is that a game screenshot? It's pretty schmexy. :D

Found it on DeviantArt. It was really perfect, I had campaign buttons and ribbons to put all over the missing persons board, but I don't have Photoshop so I couldn't cut them out in any serviceable way :(

I'm okay with what I've got, though! VA Governor's race is a fucking farce :mad:

Use GIMP. It's just as good as Photoshop. :)

I think I may change my avatar to use that picture of Alex. Is that cool with you, Neg, especially since you're using it as your sig.

Doesn't bother me a bit :D Not my art :-P

Creepy. I don't think I ever allowed my apartment to get this haunted to see this guy pop out of it...

HOLY SHIT, he can get out of the wall!?!?!? o_O

I agree, I've neglected the apartment A LOT, but he never got free :o

Any news on when the next SH is going to be out?

And, I don't mean that 're-imaging' thing either.

lol. Shattered Memories got pushed back again til Dec. 8th.

I haven't heard anything about anything besides that. Could use another female protagonist, imo.

Maybe a remake of SH2, but with the graphical power of 'Uncharted 2'

*gets tissues*

Oh god. Now I hope beyond all hope that SM is the last remake they are going to do. I don't want the series becoming Final Fantasy :mad:

I don't either, but some games don't age well or they could get the proper treatment this time around.

I wish the re-imaging of the first SH was a remake instead :(. Now THAT would've been awesome.

TRU FAX

Lately, when someone suggests a remake with uber gfx, I get a little sick.

I've always said I'd be perfectly happy with 1 done in Origins graphics with regular controls.

Then maybe I should say re-imagining because there's almost always the promise of updating more than just visuals. Which imo almost always comes with the promise of updating to attract a more "contemporary" fanbase.

Oh, I know exactly what you mean. For the very most part the idea of remakes makes me cringe. The FF remakes drive me nuts for a number of reasons, but for some reason the graphics annoy me the most. I just think they look horrible. They carried over from III to IV, and the thought of VI being rendered as such makes me want to RIOT.

I've always had a soft spot for sprites, and I genuinely believe they look better than 3D hi-res graphics when done well. 3D rendered games on DS look pretty bad. There's a RPG coming out that's supposedly a love letter to old-school fans of the genre. But, it's got the round, generic character models used in III and IV, so I won't touch it. Phantom Hourglass is OK in this regard, I guess.

I also wonder just what criteria companies will use in remaking games. In another generation or two, will they want to remake games that have already been remade? Seems pretty slippery slope.

So, in general, yeah I don't like the idea of remakes and tbh it makes me somewhat glad that Shattered Memories is at least doing something new. I don't usually want remakes, but for some reason I've always thought SH would benefit from a small step forward (Origins graphics), even though it goes again my views on the subject in general.

I like remakes when they've been done right.

Klonoa for the Wii is a fantastic example of this.
They gave it an overall quality upgrade.
Graphic, music, translation, ect.
It was damn near perfect, even a few extras added in.

Or how about 'Resident Evil' for the gamecube?
Same thing, overall it was a fantastic fan service that game the game a more modern upgrade.

Same goes for 'Persona' for the PSP...fantastic.



The problem with most 'remakes' is that they really aren't remakes, they're piss poor ports.
And bad companies like 'Square-Enix', with their legion of stupid fans, have no problem exploiting the idiotic nature of said fans with lackluster port after lackluster port.


I call it the Madden (or I guess you could also call it the Dynasty Warrior) syndrome.

SE's graphic updates scare the crap out of me. They have this thing with making all the architecture look weirdly futuristic no matter the setting. The last game that sold it well was Vagrant Story. Everything else looks contrived and inappropriate. Even Advent Children's look spoiled the setting of FF7 for me. And it's not even as big a jump from the prerendered backgrounds as it would be from the bit era.

"Done right" is pretty rare. RE remake for GC was very faithful to the original. But this Dark Side Chronicles thing they're on now doesn't agree with me.

But back to SH. I give Shattered Memories some wiggle room because they are not Team Silent and couldn't pull off the Team Silent feel. Even though I think they got close with Origins.

And I think I could understand Origins because I always have that could have done more doubt when the next major installment of a franchise is for some reason made into a handheld title.

Looks like I was right on the money for Alex. The new locations aren't on the original maps, but that's kind of DUH. If Alchemilla has had time to become a mental hospital, there was certainly time to build a church, a cemetery, and a prison.

It's a shame the game didn't allow more exploration of areas in SH once you actually reached the streets.

I feel kinda shitty about having to kill Curtis. I mean, yeah, he was going to kill Elle. Well, we don't really know that. He did take his time and he said his mantra "It's a shame people mistreat such nice things." Who knows, maybe he would have just cut her lose if Alex hadn't barged in. Probably giving him too much credit, but oh well. Loves me some Curtis.

Another little piece of evidence towards my 'Curtis is a good guy' theory:

After getting the ceremonial dagger, if you backtrack to his shop after getting his picture by the Missing Persons board, the gate is locked, but there's a health drink and a bunch of shotty ammo.

Who else could have left that there ;)

Another little piece of evidence towards my 'Curtis is a good guy' theory:

After getting the ceremonial dagger, if you backtrack to his shop after getting his picture by the Missing Persons board, the gate is locked, but there's a health drink and a bunch of shotty ammo.

Who else could have left that there ;)

But if Curtis was a good guy, he wouldn't have gone after Alex as soon as he barged in. ;)

Well, yeah, there's that~

That's okay, I like manic depressive schizophrenics ;)

Maybe that's why Josh didn't like him and made a note of that on the photo. :D

Jeez, I gotta vote for 8 different things. Crazy.

Wheeler can be Sheriff, Edgeworth can be Attorney General, Diego Armando can be Commonwealth's Attorney, Travis can be Lieutenant Governor....

Just need people for House of Delegates, Commissioner of Revenue and Treasurer.

The dog from silent hill 2?

The dog from silent hill 2?

I approve this nomination. :)

For which one? And what should I cleverly name him?

Wheeler is going to be Houston Wheeler, because his voice actor is Fitz Houston and I couldn't find his first name (on the two wikis I looked at, might be in the manual...)

I got the first rifle and the Pulaski ax!!! ^_^ Also, got the locker in the Police Station.

I R Dum Cunt

Let's call him Rex Goodwin.

(Note: I stole the name off of Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's, but I think it might be a good campaign name for the Silent Hill dog.)

I like.

so do I

Scruff

Scruff

How about Scruff McGregor?

Ari :mad: go put some clothes (Avatar and Sig) on!

He's all nekkid and anonymous.

I'll take care of it this weekend. :)

I'll take down my sig once I make a new one (tonight probably), since you wanted to use that pic of Alex. I'm voting Tuesday, but it's only up right now to please myself, tbh.

I have been been satisfied to that end :D

He's all nekkid and anonymous.

I kinda miss those days :D

I'll take down my sig once I make a new one (tonight probably), since you wanted to use that pic of Alex. I'm voting Tuesday, but it's only up right now to please myself, tbh.

I have been been satisfied to that end :D

No worries, keep the image up, Neg. I found an alternate avatar I wanted to use. :)

kk


Both of those places were fantastic. I didn't really get the same feeling in HC's hospital :(. I was disappointed.

Alchemilla (HC) is great for foreshadowing. It's short, but I think it works better as the intro it is intended to be than it does in Origins. I understand that they probably don't want to ever use it as a full level again, which is fine. Beyond introducing the back and forth aspect, it's a pretty sterile level in Origins. Thankfully, Travis has the house fire to compliment it in that respect. Maybe I should have put Dahlia's House/Alchemilla as the location in the rumble.

I got the UFO ending (on purpose, I know how to get what I want) so I can have the laser pistol next time. I think that'll be my last normal playthrough. I want to clear it on hard, since I've pretty well figured out what I need to do in terms of combat. I had oodles of healing items, this time, the whole time.

That is one issue I have with the game. Having it select items w/o you hitting X on the menus works great for the weapons. It makes it a really fast switch. However, it makes you use serums unintentionally :mad: I would have had all 8 at my disposal in the last battle if it wasn't for that slippery selection method. It happened to me last time, it happened this time. At the exact same location to boot! (right before heading back through the covered bridge leading to Curtis's shop.)

It's annoying to have to hit circle or R1 just to bring up the other menu so I won't auto select serums :sad:

Alchemilla (HC) is great for foreshadowing. It's short, but I think it works better as the intro it is intended to be than it does in Origins. I understand that they probably don't want to ever use it as a full level again, which is fine. Beyond introducing the back and forth aspect, it's a pretty sterile level in Origins. Thankfully, Travis has the house fire to compliment it in that respect. Maybe I should have put Dahlia's House/Alchemilla as the location in the rumble.
One of my favorite times in the SH games was when I had to go to the hospitals. I never did like hospitals for some reason so I enjoyed going "Oh no, now I have to go to the hospital!" while playing. I did like how that was the intro place in HC, but I guess I did feel it was too short for me to get excited about being there. It looked pretty creepy, but even that was missing something...


I got the UFO ending (on purpose, I know how to get what I want) so I can have the laser pistol next time. I think that'll be my last normal playthrough. I want to clear it on hard, since I've pretty well figured out what I need to do in terms of combat. I had oodles of healing items, this time, the whole time.
I accidentally got the UFO ending my first playthrough on Normal. I went to Hard mode afterwards and with the laser pistol, the game is incredibly easy in Hard mode to the point where you'll probably never have to use a serums or any kind of health item (assuming you're good to the point of not getting hit by just shooting them from afar).


That is one issue I have with the game. Having it select items w/o you hitting X on the menus works great for the weapons. It makes it a really fast switch. However, it makes you use serums unintentionally :mad: I would have had all 8 at my disposal in the last battle if it wasn't for that slippery selection method. It happened to me last time, it happened this time. At the exact same location to boot! (right before heading back through the covered bridge leading to Curtis's shop.)

It's annoying to have to hit circle or R1 just to bring up the other menu so I won't auto select serums :sad:

I didn't even know you can have auto select for items. Oh well, too late to complain.

Use the Up/Down directional buttons to switch weapons, Neg. Then you won't have to access the menu at all for your weapons. ;)

As for playing in hard mode... I'll just tell ya that if you use ammo a lot in a run through, you're definitely going to have to be conservative in Hard mode since they reduce the amount of ammo... especially in the Police Station with all the Schisms.

Let's do the math on bullets needed for Neg:

4 for the Police Station (To take down one from the first wave, two from the second, one from the third)
3 for the Siam in the parking lot
3 for the Siam in the sewers
6 for the Siams in the church
1 for a schism in the church
10 or so handgun bullets for the Siam in front of the prison.

Is there 17 shot gun bullets in Hard Mode? Or 17 total Shotgun and Rifle bullets?

I can do the Schisms without bullets, tbh. Just takes time/care. 12 bullets.

I was wondering if you could fire up hard mode and get the pistol. I wouldn't do that, it'd be too easy :o

I believe you can choose what difficulty you want the New Game+ to be. I can't really remember. I haven't played it in a while.

Actually, the enemies take more hits in hard mode. Ignore the bullet count.

I can take as long as I need on Schisms. I'll just have to learn how to deal with Siams on that last normal playthrough. How hard can it be? Just need to effectively get behind them. I figured out Amnion this time pretty damn well. Seems like for the bosses, stringing together successful dodges gets you into position to strike. Imagine that.

I just shoot them with the laser pistol. Almost anything that isn't a boss dies with just one shot. The bosses take a few more lol.

Don't want to use that on hard mode, though...

Oh. Then yes, they are just harder to kill and you take more damage. The usual.

Let's be nekkid and anonymous for a while.

Streaker shriners or sth~

Actually, the enemies take more hits in hard mode. Ignore the bullet count.

I can take as long as I need on Schisms. I'll just have to learn how to deal with Siams on that last normal playthrough. How hard can it be? Just need to effectively get behind them. I figured out Amnion this time pretty damn well. Seems like for the bosses, stringing together successful dodges gets you into position to strike. Imagine that.

You should be able to take out the Siams using the Axe (or Pipe/Crowbar). If you can effectively dodge/block their punches and hit their weak spot from behind, you can save your bullets.

In the Police Station, I generally ran away from the Schisms in the first encounter. What I would do is right after chopping down the barricade, I immediately run to the bathroom with the health drink. Wait for the two Schisms to enter and run past them and head to Interrogation Room, quickly grab the Health Drink there, and proceed to the small room with the two Schisms and kill them with the Shotgun. How you kill the remaining Schism from the garage is up to you though. :)

I figured as much for the Siams. I like killing schisms too much to ignore them. Easily my favorite normal enemy in the game. Maybe because the police station was where I hunkered down and took the time to figure out the combat system.

There were times that I thought I had the Schism attack down, but then they do something out of nowhere to make me question their pattern... gave up after that.

I remembered I said you could roll up to them and do the XXS combo and then hightail it. You have to pay attention to what they are doing. Sometimes you can only get a XX in before they start a retaliation.

What's a good place to host files that's free? I want to try doing a cover of SH2's "Promise" song now that I have my recording software :D.

If it's not bigger than 300mb you can use sendspace. Or, you could use a movie maker program and stick a picture up and then put it on youtube.

It won't be that big. I already recorded a song that me and my old band wrote with it while a friend of mine use his Acid program and added drums to it. It was about 60mb and a little over 3 minutes long.

I'll try that send space one first.

megaupload is pretty descent too.

Hey, you. Yeah, you. Gratz on 1K <3

Congrats Ari!

Heh. Thanks, guys. :) <3 I think this is the first time I've actually hit over 1000 posts in a forum before. Never stick around long enough to do so.

I know of a Real Pleasant Game you can play!


Silent Hill!


Go ahead it'll be fun! :D

I lol'd.

I know of a Real Pleasant Game you can play!


Silent Hill!


Go ahead it'll be fun! :D

*slap*

Where's that '2' at?

Up your butt around the corner to the left.

That's where the bear in Condemned 2 was! He still shows up and mauls you.

NINJA BEAR!

You're both...on notice.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHH

I know of a Real Pleasant Game you can play!


Silent Hill!


Go ahead it'll be fun! :D


*slap*

Where's that '2' at?


Up your butt around the corner to the left.

I bless Asamiya xD.

Pish, SH4 as an avatar.

Nuff said.

I win.

:P

4 is so fucking awesome.

I'm moving these posts to Silent Hill, eventually. Be advised.

Not to me.

Game is the worst in the series thus far.

You know the last time we all started a conversation in another thread and had to move it here, it was over 4 as well.

How very intriguing.

Was it my fault there as well?

4 gameplay wise was the worse to me. storywise no.

I never said anyone in particular was at "fault." No need to assign blame. I just try my best to get SH talk back into this thread so we don't wear out our welcome elsewhere.

We should just take over another thread.

It has been done before you know ;).

I don't recall the thread itself, but I remember it lead to you forcing me to rank the games. Then you lost all respect for me :p

I'm totally lost.
But, I do think I hate on SH4 a bit too much at times.

I played it before SH3, so I had just finished the epic that is SH2.
I didn't get to go a little down, I just freaking dropped off a cliff with 4.

I still liked the first SH the best. And the story of SH2 I thought was great. And the music on it was love at first hear for me :D.

Actually, maybe I do like SH2 the best!

SH1 was pretty decent.
It took all the scary/foreboding parts of the RE series and make a solid game out of it.

SH1 was pretty decent.
It took all the scary/foreboding parts of the RE series and make a solid game out of it.

Very true. I remember in some game magazine (I think it was Gamepro or something) that had a poll of which game was better: SH or RE. I can't remember who won but that pretty much started the rivalry between the two series in terms of which one can have a good story AND scare the shit out of people at the same time.

There's a level in Uncharted that is totally SH worthy. I squeed very hard.

It's weird, my gut instinct is to rebut the whole "3 being a step down from 2," but then I remember that it is way down my list from 2 and it suddenly seems like a totally idiotic notion to be existing in my head.

This is obviously part of why I didn't want to rank them at all.

I'd say SH3 is 4th or 5th on my list.

Below:
SH2 - Director's Cut (Xbox)
SH2 - Regular/Non GH (PS2)
SH2 - ? (PC)

This is obviously part of why I didn't want to rank them at all.
To me, all of the games have their own merits. I can't really decide in any real order of which one's I like the best. They're all equally great to me, just in different areas.

And yet you forced me to rank them :p

In all seriousness, I completely agree, though. I usually tend to champion things that other people dismiss or complain about, too. That certainly colors my love of 4, Origins, and Homecoming to a degree. At the same time, though, it's straight up affection, not only the need to root on underdogs. It isn't just a hollow, prideful, love founded IN SPITE of the crowd, it's that placed over a genuine love.

Tis awesome.

<3

I like ranking games in a series because I think it shows what you prefer and makes for interesting conversation at times.

I'm going to work on what to do with the second round of the locations rumble, like today. We only have two more 'bouts before it's that time.

We need to be thinking about what we want to do after locations, as well. Allen and I have said it should probably be a few smaller rumbles before another large edition. Of course that probably means the music edition, which if it's going to be as large as locations, should probably be being planned starting now.

I had thought about letting Ari and IDX co-run it, but that'd be dependent on you guys being interested and having the time to get the work done. I'm not even sure if the music is readily available on youtube or that Blue Lagoon site that the FF guys here use.

Start thinking about that, and if you know anyone in the music forums who'd be interested, talk to them, too. Zoran was recommended by Jessie, but I haven't seen him around :(

I usually like to rank games, too. Silent Hill is just especially hard. Even Ace Attorney isn't THAT hard for me to rank.

At least it's easier than the "Clover" games.

I'm a huge fan over all 4 games.
:/

And yet you forced me to rank them :p.

Because I was just wondering if you would :D!

Your feelings on the rumble please, sir. I have solicited them.

I recently played Silent Hill 2, and I found it at time to be rather eerie but also times of 'wtf?' Granted I didn't managed to play much of it (It was my cousin's copy, but heavily scratched to the point of almost unplayable), but I would like to take another crack at it.

I found a video review of Silent Hill 2 here (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/878-Silent-Hill-2), but I was also wondering what is everyone's opinion about Silent Hill 2 as well. Should I look for another copy of that, or move on to the others in the series?

FINISH IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

I might be insanely biased here, I admit ;)

I recently played Silent Hill 2, and I found it at time to be rather eerie but also times of 'wtf?' Granted I didn't managed to play much of it (It was my cousin's copy, but heavily scratched to the point of almost unplayable), but I would like to take another crack at it.

I found a video review of Silent Hill 2 here (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/878-Silent-Hill-2), but I was also wondering what is everyone's opinion about Silent Hill 2 as well. Should I look for another copy of that, or move on to the others in the series?

SH2 is the whole reason to post in this thread.

Theres a PC/PS2/Xbox version of the game.
GO BUY IT NOW!

It, IMO, is the best of the series...hands down.
No comparison.

Or ya know, you can come in here to talk to our merry band...

Or are we a motley crew?

I guess there's that too.

But I wouldn't have every cared about the series if it wasn't for 2.

SH1 I played rather late so its impact wasn't as big on me.
SH2 I played right when it came out.
:3

I'm screencapping Jacob's Ladder for the second round of the rumble. If you haven't seen it, you should be ashamed :p

Go buy/steal it, now.

Never heard of that movie until today...

Tim Robbins, Danny Aiello. GOGOGO

Hospital scene alone influenced the entire series.

That was a crazy movie with an ending I didn't see coming. It was on one of the movie channels when I saw it but I would like to own an actualy copy.

Actually, I might give eBay a try....no! I can't! Gotta save meh monay!

Alright, here's what I got for the Weapons rumble. To keep it to 16, I've got iconic/special weapons only.

Iconic/Special to the series:

1.) Lead/Steel Pipe
2.) Alien Weaponry: Travis's Tesla Rifle, Harry's Hyper Blaster, James's Spray Can, and Alex's Laser Pistol.

Iconic/Special to Travis:

3.) Fists/Moon Gauntlets
4.) Cleaver
5.) Portable TV

Iconic/Special to Harry:

6.) Katana
7.) Rock Drill

Iconic/Special to James:

8.) Chainsaw
9.) Great Knife

Iconic/Special to Heather:

10.) Heather/Sexy Beam
11.) Beam Saber

Iconic/Special to Henry:

12.) Golf Clubs
13.) Holy Candles
14.) Rusty Axe
15.) Pickax of Despair

Iconic to Alex:

16.) Ceremonial Dagger


When I list the individual rounds, I'll list everyone who has used each weapon. So, if you want to vote for the chainsaw because of how Harry wields it (which is different than how the Ashfield boys and Alex do it), that's completely fine.

Well, Alex's isn't technically a chainsaw. It's a circular saw :D!

But as for Harry and James, I don't know if just giving it to one of them would be fair because they both have it whether or not they hold it differently :/.

Also, didn't know the spray can was an alien weapon.

I'm not giving it to either of them, per se. Chainsaw will be an entry and you can choose to vote for it for whatever reason/user you want. Lumping in Alex's circular saw is practical and logical, imo.

I thought about the spray for a while, and while obviously it is practical to lump it into alien weaponry, it works exactly the same way that Harry's Hyper Blaster does with increasing colors and power levels as determined by the number of stars you get for clearing consecutive games.

Also remember that the UFO ending is not in the original release of the game, it was added for the greatest hits version. I'd imagine if they had originally put it in, they probably would have tied it to unlocking the spray can.

I originally had Heather's beams lumped into Alien Weaponry too, but I felt while they are beams, they are too tightly connected to her specifically to not be an individual entry. Beam Saber could be lumped in, I suppose.

I'm way open to input and if we do lump either (or both) of those in, we can add more weapons. Up to you guys, this is just my first crack at it.

Didn't know there was a UFO ending in 2... but then, I only played the original and not the Greatest Hit version. Checked out the youtube video for it... the ending was odd... to say the least. Oh wells.

Didn't know that about the UFO ending. Then again, I only played the SM version, not the PS2 one.

You mean Restless Dreams (RD)?

I like 2's UFO ending, Ari, because Harry picks up James and then that lets him be in the one for 3.

You mean Restless Dreams (RD)?

I like 2's UFO ending, Ari, because Harry picks up James and then that lets him be in the one for 3.

That would certainly explain the one for 3... thanks for clearing that up. :D

You mean Restless Dreams (RD)?

I like 2's UFO ending, Ari, because Harry picks up James and then that lets him be in the one for 3.

Yes.

And that UFO ending was hilarious I thought :D.

The song from 3's UFO ending needs to be in the music rumble, Allen.

Also, the enemy rumble just cannot be a short one, I don't know what made me think that'd be the case. Even a boss only rumble is well past 16 entries, jfyi.

Is that a hint for me taking over music, only reason i'm asking is because I text you and you didn't get back to me, man.

I haven't gotten a text from you since last night :(

If you didn't get my last one, it said:

We've got time. Start thinking about what songs you want to include and aim for a specific number. The songs are all on Blue Laguna (or w/e it was called) so the longest and most troublesome part is already done.

Yeah I didnt get that last one.
Ok then we should go with the number you suggested and let our voters vote on the songs in this thread so we dont take space in the rumble thread... Ill try and set up the rest, man?

If we're going to vote on song choices, we can just wait til the Weapons Rumble is up and running.

Meaning, we have TONS of time.

Yeah, we're getting pretty far ahead of ourselves but oh well, even if it falls apart at any time, I'm more than satisfied. Things have been going very well. This is all icing, at this point. Sweet sweet icing.

I think the moral of this story is that more people need to play Origins and Homecoming. 4 is doing exceedingly well, Allen. I remember you worrying that it wouldn't.

:( @ Homecoming

More like :( @ Origins. The 3 entries from Homecoming that are left were all strong performers.

But, can they beat the JUGGERNAUT that is Brookhaven?

I dunno.

More like :( @ Origins. The 3 entries from Homecoming that are left were all strong performers.

But, can they beat the JUGGERNAUT that is Brookhaven?

I dunno.

Well, Brookhaven is used in many games, so it does have a clear advantage. ;-)

Yes, and 3 of the 4 versions of it are still alive. That's probably only because 2 went against each other. Me and Allen already O_O'd over the once very real possibility of an all Brookhaven semi-final.

I really do hope these SH rumbles keep going for a long while. I really do enjoy them. And after a weapon and song rumble, a creature rumble would be pretty good too.

As long as we keep having at least 5 voters each round (I stated this condition before I started it), I will keep writing them.

That is a promise.

Hai!

Hi Allen <3

Neg <3

FUCK YEAH SH4!

It's doing way better then I thought?

So who confirms that they will be getting Shattered Memories?

I don't have a Wii so I plan on getting the PS2 version, though it's too bad it comes out 2 months after the Wii version.

The game received a 8.0 in Nintendo Power where they basically say that while it's one of the most immersive experiences on the Wii, it never truly delivers the scares. The points of tension are supposed to be the chase scenes but they leave something to be desired. The lacking suspense leaves the puzzles to shine. NP describes them as creative and varied, yet never obtuse. They also speak of a twist ending.

Yeah, suddenly I'm glad I did choose the Wii version.

I don't have a Wii so I plan on getting the PS2 version, though it's too bad it comes out 2 months after the Wii version.

They're releasing the PS2 version two months after the Wii version...? I thought they were releasing all version of the game on the same day...

I'll be getting the Wii version anyway, but that's kind of retarded to delay the other console versions.

They're releasing the PS2 version two months after the Wii version...? I thought they were releasing all version of the game on the same day...

I'll be getting the Wii version anyway, but that's kind of retarded to delay the other console versions.

I'm just going by what it says on Amazon. For the Wii it says December 8, 2009 and for PS2 it says January 31, 2010.

Wii for me, I've had it pre-ordered for months now.

I'm just going by what it says on Amazon. For the Wii it says December 8, 2009 and for PS2 it says January 31, 2010.

Oh... I wasn't doubting you at all... I just thought it was silly for Konami not to release all versions on the same day.

I told Allen, all these delays are making me worry. Still, Avi says it got a good score.

:itsamystery:

I forgot to pre-order a PS2 copy! I'll do that this weekend. Or Monday.

Soooo, are we going to wait on playing it to be fair to our Wii-less brothers (and sister)?

Soooo, are we going to wait on playing it to be fair to our Wii-less brothers (and sister)?

Hah! Don't worry about me. I'll have Spirit Tracks to tide me over until January. Plus I still haven't replayed SH2 since I repurchased it recently. I plan on playing it all in the dark this time for fun.

Might want to pick this up while you're waiting. Sounds pretty cool, so far.

http://www.forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=71825

:billymays:

Soooo, are we going to wait on playing it to be fair to our Wii-less brothers (and sister)?

You guys better!!

I'll probably wait. I plan on buying it when it comes out, but I'll have to play through New Super Mario Bros Wii and Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles. So, I can put this SH:SM on hold until you guys are playing.

I'm for waiting. I'm going to play Apollo Justice and then probably hunt for extras in Uncharted or Bioshock or something like that.

I can totally wait. Like I told Avi, I wait to play stuff ALL THE TIME.

I'm actually kind of shocked.

Me too actually. I thought they were going to say "fuck you!" and play it :/.

We're cooler than that, yo.

Today is probably the worst day Rumble-wise EVAR. Phantom Train lost. Woodside/Blue Creek, and Lakeside Amusement Park.

I love 4, but for some reason, the fact that it just pulled off 100% survival into the next round, grinds my gears~ such is life.

HAHA! Sorry!

To be fair, it's probably Phantom Train that hurts the most.

We're cooler than that, yo.

Today is probably the worst day Rumble-wise EVAR. Phantom Train lost. Woodside/Blue Creek, and Lakeside Amusement Park.

I love 4, but for some reason, the fact that it just pulled off 100% survival into the next round, grinds my gears~ such is life.

How did you choose which two areas would get paired together in a rumble?

random.org

The list randomizer.

Well, I imagine the results would have been different if they had been put in some other random pairing. It really is a luck of the pairing which one will move onto the next round.

Which is why we randomize it.

New Trailer... http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/02/silent-hill-shattered-memories-trailer-rocks-out/

Dahlia's gonna get pneumonia :o

There seems to be a little SH2 influence in there as well with the mirror scene.

I got that sense, too. Seems like we're gonna get some details on Harry's wife.

Aces.

Now the PS2 and PSP is January 12th.


WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE.
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

I don't even care about waiting to play. That doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just want to understand why the release date has danced around a million freakin' times.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

Also that on stage singing scene gives me a Twin Peaks vibe.

Thanks to Cuckoo for this: http://www.24oranges.nl/2009/10/28/man-found-not-guilty-after-blacking-out-hospital/

Tomorrow is the big day... going to pick it up tomorrow during lunch. :)

I'll be heading out for it once my mom gets home from work to cover for me.

I'll be waiting for it to come home, because as you know I don't go to the games... The games come to me!

I'll be waiting for it to come home, because as you know I don't go to the games... The games come to me!

They sure do... game whore. ;)

Edit @ 2:36 PM Central Time - Just picked up Shattered Memories. :D

You look precious, Neg. :D

And as I text Neg already, mine was sent yesterday! :D

Bump sorries

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/08/silent-hill-adapted-for-the-stage/


forgot sitcom:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/silent-hill-once-upon-a/59734

Haha, I'll watch it if it does get to YouTube subtitled.

I really hate you right now!

Okay, not really. BUT STILL! I think it's stupid that they wouldn't release everything all at once.


Damn you, Neg!

See, while posting actual pictures is higher in coolness factor, it also elicits greater ire.

Keep that in mind, Ari :p

And, yes, the difference in release dates is beyond stupid. I have said as much many times.

I know you have, but I will still say it.

KONAMI, WHAT A STUPID MOVE!

I know you have, but I will still say it.

KONAMI, WHAT A STUPID MOVE!

Now that I think of it, I think they did that on purpose to probably push fans to buy a Wii for Christmas... sounds extreme, but possible.

There was a video playing once while I was in the store. Reggie said he was sure Nintendo would do the best during the holidays because of the economic climate.

Reggie Fils-Upchildren, we're coming for you!