1000 Heartless

1000 Heartless

1000 Heartless

Was about to but I had to go, so I didn't have time.

Anyway, 1000 Heartless

6 votes... ideal enough to declare an early blowout.

1000 Heartless 6-0 Wakka/Selphie/Tidus

Once again, it's proven never to underestimate the power of 1000 Heartless, even if they may not be a real "boss". And that's more FF characters down... as for the beach, there's still Riku...

And it's time for the final battle of the round!

Round 2 - Battle 20

Demyx

So here we've got another member of Organization XIII, as we know, two of which have been eliminated (Xigbar and Saix). They've mostly been dark horse contenders of this rumble. Demyx, despite being the laughingstock clumsy one from the Organization, offers a pretty epic battle. Specializing in the Water element, he summons musical notes with his Sitar and really steals the show! Fought on a battlefield somewhere in the Hollow Bastion crystal valley, which leads to Goofy, um... dying... yeah, and he defeated Ursula's final form in the last round. He is from the Organization after all.

VS.

Axel

Yikes. So it appears another Organization member is about to get eliminated. Well, we've already had that situation with Saix losing to Xaldin, but this battle should be interesting. The battle with Axel may not be as difficult and challenging as the one with Demyx, but Axel sure is a more loved character, and this point in the game was one that set the bar really high for KH2. It was SIMPLY AMAZING... yeah, this is one boss you fight only as Roxas, in the mansion basement, concluding the prologue. Quite flashy with the fire Chakrams. His intentions throughout the game are a mystery, but become clear later, and even more clear in 358/2. Axel defeated the Elemental Lords in the last round, despite being one of those elements.

This is a hard choice... well, when it comes down to it, Axel gets my vote, on the music factor. Better battle theme than that Dilemma crap. Though I honestly don't know what to expect...

Demyx

Was actually more of a challenge than Axel in my opinion.

Demyx

the only reason Demyx is harder was because he was an earlier boss imo and that stupid time limit.

Axel

Axel

Time to wrap this up...

Axel 3-2 Demyx

This was a lot closer than the last double Organization XIII battle... but despite being the tougher boss, Demyx falls. Axel is just too charismatic and special, and put on a far more memorable battle.

That's Round 2 for you! I'll start the third round soon... ten battles. Until then, comments are welcome!

Alright, time to start off round 3! I'm actually really liking the matchups I've been given. :)

Also an interesting note, the ratio of KH1 bosses to KH2 bosses left, although not exactly even this time, is still pretty close, at 9 to 11.

But anyway ready? Okay, let's begin...

Round 3 - Battle 1

Xemnas

Okay, so we've got the leader of Organization XIII, who in itself are already tough to beat. Does he have any weaknesses or potential threats in this rumble? Time will tell, he's been a powerhouse so far...

VS.

1000 Heartless

Also a very important battle, so important that it hasn't had any votes against it for "not being a real boss". Really shows how memorably fun it can be... can they take Xemnas?


I have a slightest feeling I'm gonna be in the minority, I could be wrong, but I'm sticking with my 1000 Heartless.

I have to say, the 1000 heartless battle is BORING AS HELL and I have no idea why people enjoyed it, also, it was way too easy, just grab the robots, rinse and repeat.

needless to say, I'm going for Xemnas.

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xemnas 4-1 1000 Heartless

And Xemnas once again mows his way through and makes the top 10. No shocker there, with all the advantages he's got, I wouldn't be surprised if he even won, but we'll see what happens... but this is the end of the 1000 Heartless!

Round 3 - Battle 2

Kurt Zisa

One of the KH1 superbosses... those are all something, and Kurt Zisa is certainly no pushover. This Heartless from the desert has the honor of being the enemy to offer the most experience point at once. But yeah, better be constantly alert, if you expect to beat this guy... will Zisa make the top 10?

VS.

Shadow Stalker/Dark Thorn

A transforming Heartless from the Beast's Castle, the one that haunts the ballroom bringing it to life. Most likely a distant relative of Darkside. Not as menacing as Kurt Zisa, but certainly fun and flashy! This is probably the most the ballroom is used in the game, though it's utilized to further extents in 358/2... Can this thing make the top 10?

Kurt Zisa will be my vote this time.

Kurt Zisa

Kurt Zisa, this is easy.

Kurt Zisa

No contest here


Kurt Zisa

Yeah, I think we can call this one early...

Kurt Zisa 5-0 Shadow Stalker/Dark Thorn

SS/DT may have been a cool fun and interesting boss, but it is no match for Kurt Zisa. This puts Zisa, as many probably expected, in the top 10.

Round 3 - Battle 3

Grim Reaper

The Heartless haunting Port Royal, controlled by Luxord. He's faced twice, but in the main battle he offers an interesting challenge, fighting Reaper while trying to maintain 882 coins in the chest. Barbossa may be gone, but this guy still is going strong...

VS.

Sephiroth (KH2)

Uh-oh, another superboss! This time from KH2. Our famous FFVII Masamune-weilding villain returns in the crystal valley of Hollow Bastion. The earlier form is also still in (and coming). This one, while many consider to be a less epic battle than his first form, actually has more of a story to offer and a reward. This Sephiroth, unlike the first, is voiced by George Newbern.

Hmm... dare I offer my support to Grim Reaper...? Yeah... close enough call for me.

Sephiroth (KH2)

Sephiroth (KH2)

Sephiroth (KH2)

Grim Reapers was too easy. Entertaining, nonetheless, but still too easy.

Sephiroth (KH2)

Sephiroth (KH2)

Sephiroth (KH2) 5-1 Grim Reaper

Not really any love for the Grim Reaper anymore. Yeah it's a great boss, but it has its limitations. Sephiroth II makes the top 10!

Round 3 - Battle 4

Sephiroth (KH1)

Now it's the other Sephiroth's turn! Lance Bass... um, yeah, Platinum Match. Fun epic fight. Will he join his second form in the top 10?

VS.

Axel

And one of our favorite XIII members, a well developed character. Chakram wielder, fought in the basement as Roxas. Most of these guys win for being in the Organization... but against Sephiroth? This should be interesting...

Sorry all you Organization-lovers, but I must vote for Sephiroth (KH1). If it was the other Sephiroth, my vote would definitely be different.

Axel

The first fight with him in KH2 is what sold me on the franchise in general. I'll never forget how epic that was. Also KH1 Sephiroth's difficulty was mostly memorizing a pattern. Less challenge, more trial and error.

Sephiroth (KH1)

Axel because of what Smarty said.

and we already have KH2 Spehiroth, which is better.

Sephiroth (KHI) is better than II"s in my opinion. And I enjoyed the Axel battles better in Re: CoM.

tough battle. Axel for me.

Sephiroth

Sephiroth (KH1) 4-3 Axel

Another XIII member down... who would have thought, Axel. Very close battle, though! Again both Sephiroths advance, both in the top 10!
By the way, aquamarine_tear, welcome to the rumble! And thanks, you chose the perfect time to post, because you just saved me from what probably would have been an endless tie! Please, stick around!

Round 3 - Battle 5

Maleficent Dragon

A really tough boss in KH1's Hollow Bastion. Maleficent's evil form, darkness, the true darkness. Spews a lot of poison acid... this is definitely a boss I remember being stuck on. Top 10 material? So far they've all been final/super bosses...

VS.

Hades (KH2)

Feel the heat. Although his secret optional KH1 form is gone, this battle, much like Sephiroth, is actually more part of the story in the second battle. Hercules also helps with his Aura power! How about it, top 10?

This is a little difficult, but I say Hades (KH2).

Maleficent Dragon

Maleficent Dragon

Maleficent Dragon

Maleficent Dragon

i think its clear who the tougher boss is.

Hades KH2 was a better boss

Maleficent Dragon 4-2 Hades (KH2)

Maleficent, proven to be tough as a dragon form, makes the top 10! Certainly a viable candidate. Poor Hades is all out now, oh well, he had his time to shine being on a roll before.

This places us halfway through Round 3... five more battles.

Round 3 - Battle 6

Twilight Thorn

The Darkside of Nobodies, fought as a conclusion to Roxas's tutorial dream, this guy is the one with a lot of flashy reaction commands... well, he is the tool for the RC tutorial, sort of. Kind of a fun battle to do as well as see... shall it make the top 10?

VS.

Xaldin

The spear-wielding member of Organization XIII, commanding the Dragoon Nobodies. In KH2, he's used solely as the villain for the Beast's Castle world, since there isn't one really. While he may just be filler in the story (for now at least), he's a hell of a hard boss that many get stuck on. Will he make top 10? After all, he is a member of XIII... and he beat Saix...

I think this will go to Xaldin.

Twilight Thorn

Oh, easily Xaldin. Twilight Thorn? Come on.

Xaldin. imo, he's the toughest organization xiii boss in the game.

Xaldin

Twilight Thorn? Come on.

My preference... I could say the same thing for some of the selections you've made in the past, but I don't out of sheer respect.

^I don't think he was referring to your vote, I think he was commenting on the match in general.

Anyway, as always, must wait one more day...

Xaldin is a bazillion times better, twilight thorn doesn't stand a chance.

^I don't think he was referring to your vote, I think he was commenting on the match in general.

Anyway, as always, must wait one more day...

Oh, well, my bad then.

And on that note...

Xaldin 5-1 Twilight Thorn

So, as expected, the road for Twilight Thorn ends here. Some things are just too much for it. Xaldin makes the top 10, which is pretty fitting, being an Organization member who happens to offer a real challenge. Let's just see how far that gets him.

Round 3 - Battle 7

Luxord

The Gambler of the Organization... first shows up in Port Royal, but is finally defeated in the World That Never Was, near the end, in a rather different kind of battle, a timed one. Also one of the few to play the original Struggle theme. Uses similar tactics as the Gambler Nobodies.

VS.

Clayton/Stealth Sneak

The first double Villain/Heartless boss fight, that concludes the Deep Jungle. Also the introduction of the Stealth Sneak who they have a lot of fun with later in the game, and in future installments. Offers a tough fight... can they pull off the top 10?

If it weren't for Luxord having the original 13th Struggle battle theme, my vote would be the other way.

Luxord

Clayton/Stealth Sneak

Luxord wasn't that tough imo.

Clayton/Stealth Sneak

Luxord wasn't that tough imo.

No way am I letting Luxord lose to this boss, Luxord was a very unique and fun battle, and it was a fair challenge too.

Luxord 3-2 Clayton/Stealth Sneak

As usual, the O13 member wins, but an unusually close battle for an Organization member, especially against a standard Disney boss. Makes me wonder if the battle would have been just as close had these same two been matched up in an earlier round. Anyway, bye bye Clayton/Stealth Sneak...

Round 3 - Battle 8

Scar

Yes, Scar's still around and kickin'. His other two victories have been close calls, but he sure is a classic character and a fun and interesting battle, if you're fast enough... will this ferocious beast make the top 10?

VS.

Cloud with Leon

Thee two as a team have been ripping through. Our two PS1 FF heroes, as well as the Sephiroth's (which are both in the top 10) are what's left of the FF characters. Should this team from the Hades Cup make the top 10? The Buster Sword and Lion Heart are a pretty tough combo!


I think I'll say Cloud and Leon. BTW I just realized, I forgot about Tifa... as well as other things in the Paradox Cup. But let's face it, that cup sucked... at least I think so...

Scar

Cloud with Leon

Scar

Cloud with Leon

Okay I'm a day late... but still only five votes. Well, gotta move on...

Cloud with Leon 3-2 Scar

So Cloud and Leon's duo team have made it into the top 10! Scar has reached his end of the rope, though. Very close!

Nearing the end now...

Round 3 - Battle 9

Phantom

Another superboss... these have been doing very well so far, I would say at least half the top 10 consists of them by now. Phantom is a very interesting foe, and Peter Pan must be around to fight him. He's a doozy though with the timer... well he join his fellow superbosses in the top 10?

VS.

Chernabog

Not a superboss, but a very tough mandatory boss fought late in the game in the End of the World. Okay... maybe not so tough, but certainly fun. This boss is actually a cameo from Fantasia and doesn't actually show up in the Journal. The piece of music that plays is also only on the extended soundtrack, along with Sephiroth's. Will the big black bat make the top 10?

Truly a difficult choice here. Going with Phantom.

Phantom- For the broken brokeness.

Phantom

Phantom

Phantom

Phantom

Yeah, this is gonna finish early alright...

Phantom 6-0 Chernabog

So, Chernabog took a pretty harsh beating to the Phantom... can't say I was expecting that, even though I voted that way as well... but then again it is a superboss, and it's joining a bunch of fellow superbosses in the top 10!

Last battle this round... last to enter the top 10:

Round 3 - Battle 10

Riku (Beach)

Oh hey it's Riku... who still has two forms alive and kickin' (not for long though). So yeah this is that early challenge on the beach, normal Riku who's still a darkness virgin. He's certainly tough... and won't forget how many times you won or lost, he'll hold you to it. Not that it'll matter later...

VS.

Riku (Darkness)

It's Riku VS. Riku! This is the more Darkness-contaminated Riku, who in fact is actually Ansem... erm, Xehanort. He can be super tough and take many tries, having to sit through that scene you can't skip (at least in my version of the game). Unlike the other Riku, he is mandatory. This battle is also a crucial plot point in the game as it temporarily costs Sora his heart...

Great way to end this round, eh? Throwing one in for Riku (Darkness).

EDIT: Booya, they finally fixed the double post problem!

Riku (Darkness)

Riku (Darkness)

Riku (Darkness)

Riku (Darkness)

Yeah I would say this about decides it...

Riku (Darkness) 5-0 Riku (Beach)

Maybe there was an unfair advantage somewhere along the way, but just a regular normal Riku is clearly no match for his dark form with all sorts of badass new powers, who is the last to join the top 10!

That marks the end of this round... I'll start up the next five battles later today, meanwhile feel free to commentate and stuff.

lolz. Wasn't even aware of the last battle. Oh well, Riku (Darkness) won anyway which is what I would have voted for in the first place.

Alright, the top 10... we've got three Organization members left, four superbosses, one sort-of superboss, and two really tough mandatory hurdles.

Time for the next round... five battles between our top 10 stars! I'm satisfied with the matchups... You ready?!

Round 4 - Battle 1

Kurt Zisa

One of THE superbosses of KH1. It was a given he was gonna make it this far, unless he had something big earlier. He did have the Ice Titan which he beat. He is the one to offer the most experience points... and is hella difficult. Top 5?

VS.

Maleficent Dragon

One of the few things still here that's not an Organization member or an optional superboss. This form of Maleficent is not to be underestimated by any means... she's super powerful and frustrating. Makes a return in CoM as the boss for Hollow Bastion, which was a good choice, who could forget the acid... but is she top 5 material?

This may be a surprise to some, but I think I'll give one to Maleficent Dragon. Tough choice though.

Kurt Zisa

Kurt Zisa

Maleficent Dragon

Kurt Zisa

although both of them are very tough bosses.

Kurt Zisa 3-2 Maleficent Dragon

Close battle, but Zisa's got the edge for being a superboss... and makes his way into the final five! Congrats to Zisa to be the first to make that rank. Interestingly though, this thing has yet to be up against an Organization member... but it did take down some pretty tough opponents in close battles.
Meanwhile, this marks the end for Maleficent, and her powerful dragon form... everyone's got a kryptonite. Well, except the winner.

Round 4 - Battle 2

Xaldin

Organization XIII... member III. All hail the spear-wielding Dragoons. There aren't many of these guys left, thanks to all the superbosses. Xaldin still being around is certainly not a surprise, as out of most of the Organization battles, the one he offers happens to be especially challenging and standing out. Throughout the duration of the game he's in the Beast's Castle playing the villain, finally finished off at the end. Will HE make the top 5?

VS.

Cloud with Leon

Okay, Xaldin may have the toughness factor, and these guys may not wear black cloaks, but they've certainly got it as well. They're already tough enough, try fighting them alone or on a time limit! They're also two classic heroes from the PS1 FF generation, and are kind of fun to fight despite their toughness... yet they are optional, being in the Hades Cup and all. Will they make their way into the top 5?

I have a feeling I'm gonna be in the minority, but I say Cloud and Leon. Xaldin was difficult, they were difficult and fun. They've also got the character factor.

Xaldin

Xaldin

Xaldin

Sorry I've been real busy.... but only four votes? Okay then...

Xaldin 3-1 Cloud with Leon

So, the dynamic duo are no match for Organization XIII, and have met their end. Xaldin harshly wins, and makes it to the final five!! Will his other two remaining colleagues join him?

Round 4 - Battle 3

Riku (Darkness)

The only form of Riku remaining, the crucial battle that costs Sora his heart. It's also an extremely difficult battle... but so many factors of it are important, that it just might be a candidate for the top 5! Shall it?

VS.

Xemnas

The LEADER! Of the Organization, that is. The group that was very advantageous in this rumble... and also a final boss of several stages. Surely those qualities make him top 5 material?

I'll probably be once again in the minority, but Riku (Darkness). It's a pretty important battle and much harder than Xemnas...

Xemnas

Xemnas, yeah.

Riku (Darkness)

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xemnas 5-2 Riku (Darkness)

First time I'm not alone in the minority, but alas still in it. This is the end of the road for Riku... Xemnas is just too much! But with the title of leader of Organization XIII AND final boss, how could he not make the top 5?

Round 4 - Battle 4

Sephiroth (KH1)

The one-winged angel is going for a spot in the top 5... in his KH1 form! A very tricky strategic boss, but winning him over in the ring's Platinum Match gives you bragging rights... can he do it?

VS.

Sephiroth (KH2)

So it's about time it came down to this... the battle of the Sephiroths! It's pretty divided on which is better so this battle should be interesting, but either way, Sephiroth is guaranteed a spot in the top 5 now! But in what form? This be his KH2 form... more of an actual sidequest involved with it than just a battle, and he's made to be more of a character. The battle, however, is very different now, due to the things added in KH2, such as reaction commands which block an attack unavoidable otherwise, among other stuff.

So... perhaps for once I won't be in the minority, but I definitely can't predict the outcome. I have to easily go with Sephiroth (KH1). I had fun using Strike Raid on him.

Sephiroth (KH1)

Sephiroth (KH1)

gonna throw one in for Sephiroth KH2

Sephiroth (KH2)

Sephiroth (KH1)

He just seemed harder and is more fun to fight than the KH2 one. Required more strategy for me to beat him compared to just jumping out of his attacks in KH2.

Sephiroth (KH2)

Sephiroth (KH1) 4-3 Sephiroth (KH2)

It's a very close battle... but this bitchfight has reached a conclusion. Both are popular, but the experience of battling his KH1 form and the sense of accomplishment he gives, manages to come out right on top. So... it'll be that form going to the top 5!

So now, we have two Organization members, and two superbosses in the top 5. Time for the final battle of this round to determine our lucky fifth contender...

Round 4 - Battle 5

Phantom

So it's a superboss... yes, the elusive time-manipulating Phantom is still here. He's quite a memorable boss... he was the first outsider to take down an Org member in this rumble. Then again he does have a black cloak himself... will he join Zisa and Sephiroth in the top 5?

VS.

Luxord

So it's once again superboss VS. Org member... they're all balanced, and this battle can make it lean either way. Here's Luxord, the other Organization member left. One of the last ones to fall in the game itself as well, he offers somewhat of a unique battle different than the others, acting like the Gambler Nobodies and having some weird tricks up his sleeve. Then again the Phantom battle is unique as well... but does he have what it takes to join Xaldin and Xemnas? One has a killer status, and one's really tough... but Luxord is definitely up there, let's not forget the fact that the original 13th Struggle plays for him...

Difficult choice here... I'm gonna place my vote for Luxord, for having that music. As much as I love the Phantom.

Luxord

No, sorry, definitely Phantom. Luxord was too easy; I don't think I ever lost against Luxord.

Phantom is hard because of a cheap doom gimmick.

Sorry but Luxord is a far more memorable battle.

Phantom

Phantom

Oh great now we have a tie.

great going guys.

Phantom

Hah... Agent, you can't vote twice :p

Or were you just trying to be sneaky...

Unless I'm mistaken, The Master has said before that if there's a tie, then the next vote is the one that breaks the tie and it doesn't matter if it's somebody that already voted in that battle.

Well Agent, two things.

-I am the one running this rumble, not the Master, he was just commenting that it's a tie (which I kind of wish he hadn't). It's up to me when I want to end the round, not him, he was merely commenting. He has no authority here to call a tie and ask for a tiebreak. Only when I say one more vote allowed, that means I want to end the round, and it's an official tie break.
-In my rumbles, it DOES matter if a person voted. Tie break has to be from someone that hasn't voted, that's how it's always been with me, in every rumble I ran in every section. Where've you been?

And be it as it may I was not even ready to call this round, The Master just opened his big mouth to comment, and Agent mistook it as an authoritative tie-calling. Not to say side-comments aren't welcome every now and then... but yeah, that's all it was.

EDIT: Agent, now looking at the first part of your post, I can assume you just confused this one with his in VGM... This is mine, that one's his. I guess it makes sense that him commenting kind of threw you off because he has his in VGM. So yeah sorry about the second comment.

Anyway, leaving this open for a few more days to see if we get another vote... and if not, I go by my usual procedure.

Yeah, sorry, Zak, you're exactly right. I saw him saying it was a tie and got confused and thought that it was his rumble. I have to agree, Master, don't do that. It's confusing -- what concern of yours is it to say that it's a tie if it's not your rumble?

Well, I mean, it's just a comment, I've never had a problem with side comments, as long as they don't digress too much into back and forth stuff... and if anyone besides Master commented instead it probably wouldn't have thrown anyone off and we'd all just have ignored it.

But anyway, yeah, misunderstanding, let's move on. Leaving this open for another day or two.

It isn't my fault that for whatever reason, you confused bosses with music tracks, I honestly can't see how you mixed the two up, yeah they're both about KH but music tracks and bosses are two very different subjects, not to mention the rumbles are in different parts of the forum, don't try to blame me for your own silly mistake.

It was a simple harmless comment about the fact there was a tie at the current time, not once was I asking for a tie breaker so I really don't see what was so comamnding about it, if there's a tie in my rumble, I specifically say to break it, rather then just say "there's a tie"

And don't be a jerk to me Zak, I'm one of the few people who keeps this rumble alive.

Everyone put their purses away, princesses. Simple misunderstanding on all parties, so just leave it at that.

It isn't my fault that for whatever reason, you confused bosses with music tracks, I honestly can't see how you mixed the two up, yeah they're both about KH but music tracks and bosses are two very different subjects, not to mention the rumbles are in different parts of the forum, don't try to blame me for your own silly mistake.

It was a simple harmless comment about the fact there was a tie at the current time, not once was I asking for a tie breaker so I really don't see what was so comamnding about it, if there's a tie in my rumble, I specifically say to break it, rather then just say "there's a tie"

And don't be a jerk to me Zak, I'm one of the few people who keeps this rumble alive.

I wasn't being anything close to a jerk... if you look again, my last post was in your defense if anything. :rolleyes: I said, comments are welcome, Agent happened to just get confused by yours, and he told you not to comment, but I said comments are welcome and there was nothing wrong with what you did and if anyone else did it, no one would have made an issue. So, I don't know where you're getting that from.
By the way, now that BBS is out in the states I'm gonna try and get my hands on it... when I do I'll start participating in yours, if it's still going.

But anyway... I think it is time for me to call a tie break anyway, and go by my usual procedure... one more vote from anyone who hasn't voted. And at the same time I get someone's attention... I think you all know who, I'm gonna PM-call on Mr. IDX to do it. But if anyone beats him to it, then it's over.

And be it as it may I was not even ready to call this round, The Master just opened his big mouth to comment

from there.

Yeah, and that was before my edit when I realized Agent just mixed up the two threads.

I will have to say Phantom.

Excellent. Thanks!!

Phantom 4-3 Luxord

After a long battle with a few interruptions, it's a very close call, but Phantom ultimately joins his fellow superbosses in the top 5! This renders the Organization decimated by one more, as Luxord bites it... but they're only outnumbered by one now. Can't be all that bad, eh?

So... I give you... our top five:

Phantom
Kurt Zisa
Sephiroth (KH1)
Xaldin
Xemnas

So, three KH1 superbosses, and two Organization member from the sequel... them being the final boss, and one of the toughest ones.

So... here's what's gonna happen now that we've got an odd number. You're gonna vote now for one that you wanna kill off. Got it? Good.

This probably won't be a popular choice, but I'm for getting rid of Xemnas. Only because when I think about it, I'd rather any of the other four win the whole thing over him. Even Xaldin. Though I'm sure they'll offer some competition if he stays... we'll see...

Sorry for any drama as far as the whole thing with The Master. Tensions ran a bit hot and all, but hopefully everything's cool now. And I'm for getting rid of Phantom, even though I voted for it in the last battle, though Xemnas would probably be my second choice.

Xaldin

Xaldin

Phantom

Die Phantom

So it looks like the odd one out of the bunch is... Phantom!!

So... in this brawl, it looks like Phantom falls. Wasn't who I expected, but not surprised. Now the superbosses and black cloaks are even, as are the KH1 and KH2 bosses! We're down to the final four!!

I'll post the first semifinal tomorrow, I'm off to bed now.

Hooray for the semi-finals! I'm really looking forward to finding out who the winner is.

Oh, and if there's anyone reading that normally votes in the Gen FF Rumble, I need you. I posted the newest battle on Saturday night and so far there have been zero votes. What's that about?

Alright... the semi-finals matchups have been decided. I almost decided them myself, but I really wasn't sure what to do... so I flipped a coin... err, had the computer do for me. Some of you may be happy, while others may be disappointed (I'm pretty happy)... but only one will come on top in the end anyway.

SEMIFINALS - Part 1

Kurt Zisa

So our first semifinalist is the desert fiend, Mr. Zisa. The one to offer the most experience points! Definitely a viable candidate for the cup, but so are the other three. The lucky one to face this thing is...

VS.

Sephiroth (KH1)

...The other KH1 superboss! So yeah, glad these are the matchups. I know that I may not need to specify that he's from KH1 now that KH2 Seph is gone, but they're different bosses, and this is KH1's Platinum Match. Sephiroth here has been a star... as was his other form, as only he was able to stop him himself. But being a classic villain and offering a very tough battle, can he beat Zisa as well? We shall see...

Hmm... who to choose... going with Sephiroth (KH1).

Hmm... Sephiroth (KH1).

Sephiroth (KH1)

Sephiroth (KH1)

Sephiroth (KH1) by far. Kurt Zisa did offer a challenge but like the KH2 Sephiroth, I found myself just jumping around to dodge the attacks where KH1 Sephiroth required an actual strategy for me to beat him.

Sephiroth (KH1)

So... I guess this may be a semifinal battle, but it looks like it's over pretty fast.

Sephiroth (KH1) 6-0 Kurt Zisa

A serious blowout... definitely an unexpected outcome from the semifinals. It's strange to see Kurt Zisa beaten this hard, even though this is Sephiroth we're talking about. But congratulations to Sephiroth of KH1 for making it into the final! He's quite the ripper... but Zisa still gets a shot at third place later.

SEMIFINALS - Part 2

Xaldin

So... Xaldin's the only "normal" boss left to make it this far, but then again he is an Organization XIII member! And definitely one of the most challenging bosses in the game. Still, impressive that he made it this far, but can he make the final? And if he does... I'd wonder if he can beat Sephiroth. But first he must face...

VS.

Xemnas

So alas, Xaldin must fight his own boss. These are the only two members of the Organization left, the leader and #3 who happens to be strong. But... Xemnas is also a final boss, so it's clear he made it this far, if being in the Organization wasn't enough? Surely he could make the final? And... could he beat Sephiroth if he does? Let's find out... bring on the battle of the black cloaks!


I vote for Xaldin. Just because.

Xaldin

Now say it in your head, and give The Beast's voice. Xaldinnnn!!!!!

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xaldin

Xaldin

This has been a much closer battle... time to end it.

Xaldin 4-3 Xemnas

Intensely close battle here... both our black cloaks keep switching in and out of the lead, through several ties to boot... but in the end, Xaldin outdoes his leader!! Who would have thought... Xaldin, a regular boss who isn't a superboss, beats a final boss... but yeah, Xemnas shouldn't be overestimated either.

So, congrats to Xaldin, things should be interesting now. But, before the final... it's time to decide the third and fourth place...

Semifinals Losers Battle for Third Place

Kurt Zisa

The desert spider from Agrabah... this thing shined a lot in the previous rounds, but was BADLY beaten by Sephiroth from the same game. Quite the kryptonite there, couldn't even land a single vote! But will he make third place? This is Kurt Zisa we're talking about, after all.

VS.

Xemnas

This guy put up a much better fight than Zisa, but ultimately lost to one of his minions, Xaldin, despite being a final boss. It happens. Being the leader and a final boss isn't everything. But it still gives him a good chance at third place... does it not?

This time I'm with Kurt Zisa.

Okay, Xemnas for third place.

Xemnas

Xemnas

Xemnas

I think that's probably most, if not all the votes. But just to be fair, voting is extended because of the outage.

Yes Agent, I copied your post.

Alright let's get this on with, it's been a day or two... not like the rest of the votes would have mattered anyway.

Xemnas 4-1 Kurt Zisa

Time to announce the third place winner of this thing... XEMNAS!!!

Congrats to the final boss of KH2, and leader of Organization XIII for making it this far and earning this place and position of bronze, in this long-winded rumble.

It appears that oddly, despite how well he was doing, among the Semifinalists there appears to be little to no love for Kurt Zisa. Oh well, bye Kurt, it's been real. Fourth place though!

Alrighty, this is the big one. The final match, to win this entire more-than-half-year-long rumble (Forgot what month this started offhand)!! Should be intense... or could be a surprise... we'll see...

FINAL BATTLE

Sephiroth (KH1)

The Platinum match champion is going for the gold! Um... yeah... should have thought about that beforehand. But whatever... Sephiroth, everyone! Don't forget, that this is the KH1 one. It was him who beat his KH2 self, so technically we haven't seen Sephiroth defeated by a non-Sephiroth yet. :P
Could this mean... victory?

VS.

Xaldin

Who would have thought... a mandatory non-superboss who isn't a final boss either, in the final! But alas, Xaldin is an Organization member. Not just any Organization member... okay, well, he is just number III... but a pretty tough one at that, he bested Xemnas, his own leader... who is only a notch below him! Anyone who's played the games would understand that he definitely deserves to be here. But does he have what it takes to take down Sephiroth and win? After all, Sephiroth did destroy a bunch of Organization XIII... but this is Xaldin we're talking about! This match could be one to remember... or it could always be over fast.


Well, best of luck to both of them. But I have a feeling that my vote for Xaldin will negate it being over fast.

(FYI, that's not the reason I'm voting for him).

It's ON!!

Xaldin

Xaldin

Xaldin

Xaldin.

Xaldin


screw Sephiroth.

Sephiroth (KH1)

Time to put this long rumble to bed...

Xaldin 6-1 Sephiroth (KH1)

So after pushing through it all, our big winner for the boss rumble is...

XALDIN!!!

Yes, no one should mess with Xaldin, both Sephiroths breezed quickly through this rumble (until they encountered each other), but Xaldin just totally wasted Sephiroth. Who knew? Yay for Organization XIII's number III.


Okay that was a nice fun long rumble... I'm down for suggestions for more ideas!

EDIT: BTW for those wondering, this rumble started in April!

Characters?
Cutscenes?
Quotes?

Hmm... I was actually thinking worlds/locations. Would anyone be opposed to this?

Characters would be a little difficult... unless we have a specific way of filtering who to use.

But thanks TM... let's see what everyone says.

characters is a big part of the series...i definately think we should do that.

Worlds/locations.

The thing about characters is there is too much of a range between various groups of characters, some more/less important than others, many would have an unfair advantage depending who I use. There's like all the KH non-Disney characters who will probably dominate everything. Then there's all the minor Disney characters that appear in the journals, that you meet. It would be just too difficult to draw a line between who to use and who not to.

But anyway, I just did bosses, a lot of which are characters, so I'd really rather not do that right now... especially if it's gonna be another super long haul.

I'm leaning towards worlds/locations, along with Agent.

If I do that, I think I'm gonna list worlds that appear in both games as seperate entities, like for example, Halloween Town (KH1) and Halloween Town (KH2), as they are very different places, and possibly even some 358/2 (Neverland especially, and maybe Agrabah). I think CoM's Castle Oblivion will also be included.

Also I have yet to play BBS (and am avoiding spoilers for it), so that's out. I'm sure some here have yet to get their hands on BBS since it just hit the western shores in September, but for those of you who haven't played 358/2... well, just a heads up. Though I figure most of you have, it's been three years.

I won't start it just yet, I'll leave this open for a few days for suggestions or feedback/oppositions to my idea.

To be honest, I'm leaning towards notable quotes, I just didn't say it because it doesn't sound like anyone else cares to do it, and I seem to recall it's not something that stokes your fancy, Zak.

To be honest, I'm leaning towards notable quotes, I just didn't say it because it doesn't sound like anyone else cares to do it, and I seem to recall it's not something that stokes your fancy, Zak.

Haha, that last part is true, but TM did mention it actually...

For characters you could either stick to original character (I think there's a fair few to have such a rumble) or just go ahead and include all disney and square characters, it's up to obviously.

World's and locations could be done but I don't see that being a very long rumble.

Original characters would be dominated by members of the Organization.

For characters you could either stick to original character (I think there's a fair few to have such a rumble) or just go ahead and include all disney and square characters, it's up to obviously.

World's and locations could be done but I don't see that being a very long rumble.

About original characters, well... what Agent said.

As for Disney/Square characters... that's a possibility, but I'd wanna include little ones as well as protagonists and villains, but yeah, that's a possibility. But not now though, since I just did bosses, many of whom are these characters.

I think Worlds/Locations is what it'll be.

And TM, you'd be surprised at how long it can be, considering I said I'd be including the same worlds in different games separately, for the most part. AND some from 358/2. Maybe not all, depending on what number I come up with. Like maybe I'll leave the World That Never Was from 358/2 out... but really it'll depend how even the number is. Castle Oblivion will definitely be included, however. Perhaps there may also only be one 100 Acre Wood entry, who knows.

Though, even if the said world is exactly the same in one game as it is in another, it'll probably be still worthwhile to include separately, as in different games its remembered for a different story arc and bosses.

Yes I'd much rather have a rumble of the locations. If there should be a rumble with characters, it will have to be filtered somewhat or at least categorized somehow.

Alright I think I have a list of roughly 38 locations in these games (including 358 and CoM), so instead of cutting it down to 32, I'm gonna add two more to make it an even 40 somehow. Think I'll put Yen Sid's Tower as a separate location, seeing as there's different music there and all, and it's considered technically not in Twilight Town itself, the train just happens to run there from Twilight Town. As for the other, I was originally gonna include the Dive Into the Heart as just one entry, but I think Sora's and Roxas's can go separately because of how they happen, and how one has Twilight Thorn which made it pretty far. Also thought about Christmas Town, but it's too small... plus, with the whole Santa-Jack thing "Halloween Town (KH2)" should be a unified thing of them both.

So I think the next post starts it... watch this space...

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Okay... starting now! 20 battles in the first round!

Round 1 - Battle 1

Destiny Islands (KH1)

Perfect place to start with, as it's where our whole adventure basically begins. Sora's original homeworld along with Riku and Kairi, and a few FF characters, where you start and collect supplies and duel with your friends. It's got a nice catchy theme as well. Unfortunately, as nice as this place is, it's only ever visitable in it's normal state at the start of the game, so all hidden items here are missable! Then the world gets connected at night...

VS.

End of the World (KH1)

Ironic first matchup... seeing as the door in the "secret place" in Destiny Islands leads here. The last level of KH1 where the game ends. Though, technically it's on Destiny Islands, but the door there is the "point of no return". Other than that odd connection, this world is one big crazy acid trip. From a place full of mist crawling with Behemoths, to Chernabog, to other strange mazes and illusions... yeah, End of the World for you.

This is a difficult first choice, but I'm going with the End of the World.

So for ones like Destiny Islands, do we only consider them for that particular game? Anyway, Destiny Islands.

What do you mean? Seeing as Destiny Islands IS only in that one particular game, so yes. I'm not including the pseudo-worlds in Chain of Memories, that's just Castle Oblivion. They're all the same repetitive structure of customizing rooms with cards, there's just the boss battles (except 100 Acre Wood, but I'm not including CoM's rendition of that either)... but still it's Castle Oblivion, anyway. But yeah, for ones like Agrabah in more than one, you only consider them for the specified game which I will state. I will, however, always state the game it's from, even if it's from only one.

End of the World

End Of The World

I'm going to have to go with End of the World as well. I'm sure if Destiny Islands was up against a different location I'd choose that instead, but I think The End of the World was pretty damn fun!

Which reminds me, I haven't played Kingdom Hearts in a while after replaying it....and I stopped at the first save in The End of the World why?

Update:

ZAK FINALLY GOT BBS!!!!!!

Best birthday gift so far.

Okay, sorry, will update later. Still, it's existence won't be addressed in this rumble, since I already have everything in place and all.

End Of The World

Sorry about the delay, been, err... busy...

End of the World 5-1 Destiny Islands

So... odd to see Destiny Islands out so early, didn't expect it to be that much of a lean, but End of the World shows to be more popular. But hey, it does contain a part of DI.

Round 1 - Battle 2

Port Royal (KH2)

A world exclusive to KH2, I believe the only one based on a non-animated film. This is a really dark world... in addition to Heartless, you've got those ghost pirate enemies, but Sparrow joins the party. Luxord shows up here and causes some trouble... but at least he plays fair. Although this world isn't all that attractive, the events and bosses in it do have a certain appeal, like the villain Barbossa, the medallion hunt, and the Grim Reaper boss challenge. Although the world is called Port Royal, Port Royal is just one third of it, as you take the ship between three different places. This world also has the weird property of remembering where you last left the ship, making landing the Gummi impossible where you didn't leave it, with big red X's.

VS.

Space Paranoids

Another world exclusive to KH2, though it can be considered a sub-world, as it is not accessed from the map, but from Ansem's computer in Hollow Bastion. Tron helps out here... he's an interesting character. This world's got some pretty fancy scenery in cyberspace... as well as the car mini-game. Sark and the MCP are the main baddies here, encountered only on the second visit. Kind of interesting how they used Tron's character as a deus ex machina for the whole main story, in getting Ansem's data.

Gotta go with Space Paranoids.

Port Royal

Port Royal


And Zak, Chain / Re-Chain was what I meant. I know it's just memories, but it is still like a world. Also, I wasnt' sure if it was in any of the other games.

Space Paranoids

and why has everyone disappeared from my rumble?

Yeah but Agent, I already specified before I even started that I'm not using anything from CoM except Castle Oblivion, which is essentially the whole game... I mean, every "world" in that is just a grid basically. Castle Oblivion is here because it's an important place, and something is needed to represent CoM anyway, all the worlds are the same so I'm just gonna say it's all Castle Oblivion.

Okay keep going, will update tomorrow.

Port Royal

Port Royal 3-2 Space Paranoids

Yarrr that's one for Port Royal. Once again... Space Paranoids gets shafted early. Oh well.

Round 1 - Battle 3

Twilight Town (KH2)

Another pivotal area... Twilight Town, home of Roxas... at least for a little. KH2's starting world, a nice little town with seven wonders and two sections. Except there is also a replica of this town which Ansem created, though this town's scenario was first introduced as a memory in CoM, but the actual town wasn't given to us until KH2. There's also FF characters galore here, Roxas's trio of friends, and the Struggle battles! And, um, the old mansion... yeah, lots of stuff here. It's kind of cool to play in KH2's Twilight Town AFTER playing 358/2 Days. Destiny Islands already lost, so what of this town?

VS.

Neverland (KH1)

Our first Neverland... one world that is different in every game. But in this particular one, it's not actually Neverland itself, but two things in the same universe as it. We've got Hook's Pirate Ship, where you fight against the tough Anti-Sora, and later Hook. Then there's the Clock Tower, which is ONLY in this game, and holds the Keyhole, some treasures by the hour based in the game's clock, and... the elusive Phantom. Oh, and you can fly. Yes.

It probably won't win, but I vote for Neverland (KH1). I miss it, and Peter Pan's awesome. Twilight Town wasn't as initially awesome as it was hyped up to be, it was no Traverse Town that's for sure.

Neverland (KH1)

Twilight Town (KH2)

Neverland (KH1)

It probably won't win, but I vote for Neverland (KH1). I miss it, and Peter Pan's awesome. Twilight Town wasn't as initially awesome as it was hyped up to be, it was no Traverse Town that's for sure.

Neverland (KH1) 4-1 Twilight Town (KH2)

Well color me surprised... Neverland nearly slaughters Twilight Town. Yay for Neverland... either it must be that awesome, or Twilight Town isn't as loved as I assumed it would be despite being an important world.

Round 1 - Battle 4

Awakening (Roxas) (KH2)

Yes, Roxas's Dive Into the Heart. Tutorials galore, except the battle theme is the one used in KH1's End of the World. Oh, and it's got the fun Twilight Thorn boss, which is basically the Darkside of Nobodies... and made it pretty far in the boss rumble.

VS.

100 Acre Wood (KH2)

The second take on 100 Acre Wood. In this one, Pooh forgets Sora and calls him "Somebody-I-Don't-Know", and then forgot all his friends! This is much like KH1's, just a new set of mini-games! Including a crazy trip of a race, with interesting scenery going through pages of the book collecting honey, and the sped-up Bounce-O-Rama theme! Getting lost in a cave is also a big one. Also this time you actually have a journal to tell you when you should feel the most accomplished from a mini-game. They also added a couple of new characters that weren't in KH1's Wood. The prizes for the mini games and this world are great and worthwhile.

I'll say 100 Acre Wood (KH2). I actually really enjoyed the Wood in the games, had no idea they were so hated after looking in the BBS thread. I'm glad Re: CoM pulled off a third set of Wood mini-games to master (though I didn't include it).

100 Acre Wood (KH2). You guys probably don't know this, but I'm the administrator of this - Winniepedia (http://pooh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page)

I don't vote for 100 Acre Wood, I lose all my street cred. :D

Awakening (Roxas)

Awakening (Roxas)

Agent, you are insane.

Awakening(Roxas)

Awakening (Roxas)

Awakening (Roxas)

Sorry but I HATE Winnie the Pooh. Even as a little kid I thought of him as really annoying.

Sorry but I HATE Winnie the Pooh. Even as a little kid I thought of him as really annoying.

I heard Winnie used to molest Christopher Robin...

Mm-hmm, surrrre he did. And I'm insane. :D

Hahaha Agent I never would have guessed.

Awakening (Roxas) (KH2) 5-2 100 Acre Wood (KH2)

I also never would have guessed that Roxas's Awakening would slaughter the Wood like it did. Had no idea how hated the Wood was... then again the Awakening does have its appeal.

Round 1 - Battle 5

Disney Castle (KH2)

Disney Castle, Donald and Goofy's home-world. This place is seen briefly in KH1's intro, but is not entirely explorable until KH2, though it looks exactly the same as seen. The Gummi Hangar, the Library, the Courtyard, and the empty throne... all explorable now. Unfortunately it's a rather small world (no pun intended), but it's got a sub-world accessed from the cornerstone, the Timeless River... but that's for another time. This is one of the only worlds in the game which only have one chapter (seeing as most of KH2's worlds have two "chapters", one for before the 1000 Heartless fight and one after), but I guess that sub-world makes up for it. Also there's that fight with saving Minnie... but after this world is cleared, there are oddly never any Heartless or battles here again. The Timeless River, however, still does.

VS.

Halloween Town (358/2 Days)

Alas, our first Days competitor. So, Halloween Town in this game is like KH1's in design, with the Manor ruins and all. It's also every now and then run with those purple balloons which sometimes have Heartless, but one interesting gimmick about Halloween Town in this game compared to the rest of the worlds, is that a lot of the time the Heartless are actually hidden at random pixel hotspots you must investigate. Finding them all can be a challenge. And of course, let's not forget the Tentaclaw invasion, which leads to one of the game's toughest bosses, the crazy Leechgrave! Also Jack makes a scarecrow of Roxas... hehe. One other thing is you get to fight Lock, Shock, and Barrel yet again, and they're just about one of the only Disney characters you get to fight in this game, save Pete in Agrabah.

I'll go with Halloween Town (358/2 Days). I like a good challenge.

Disney Castle (KH2). You could probably just count me as default "vote for the one not 358/2 Days, BBS," etc., since I haven't played those. But in any case, I really enjoyed Disney Castle.

Disney Castle (KH2). You could probably just count me as default "vote for the one not 358/2 Days, BBS," etc., since I haven't played those. But in any case, I really enjoyed Disney Castle.

Disney Castle (KH2)

I was hoping for a little more votes... but what the heck.

Disney Castle (KH2) 3-1 Halloween Town (Days)

So, not too many votes but our first Days world is out. Not sure if it's the world or the game, but I guess we'll see soon enough.

Round 1 - Battle 6

Awakening (Sora) (KH1)

The other Awakening. In fact, the first ever place you set foot in in any KH game, Sora's tutorial Awakening. Roxas's already won... this one features Darkside, as well as a quick flash of Destiny Islands to answer some questions. Gotta also choose the advantage and disadvantage...

VS.

Beast's Castle (KH2)

Our first chance to explore the Beast's Castle, even though the Beast and Belle were present in the first KH in Hollow Bastion (when I first played KH I was confused and thought HB was meant to be the castle from BatB). Once again the Beast is an ally, and although there is no Disney villain here, the one who plays that role is none other than Xaldin, a tough boss who won the last boss edition rumble. Also we finally meet his servants such as Cogsworth and Lumiere. There's also an epic boss fight that utilizes the whole ballroom, in two parts. This is also the only Disney world where Roxas has been to before Sora...

I gotta say the Beast's Castle (KH2).

I also have to go with Beast's Castle (KH2).

Beast's Castle (KH2)

Sora's Awakening

Beast's Castle (KH2)

Sorry for the delay... been legit busy with work, finals week is coming up and all.

Beast's Castle (KH2) 4-1 Awakening (Sora) (KH1)

So, unlike Roxas, Sora's Awakening isn't too popular and lucky. Then again, maybe it's the Beast's Castle being too awesome or the 100 Acre Wood being too hated... who knows. Beast's Castle shall live to see another day...

Round 1 - Battle 7

Castle Oblivion (CoM)

Think the whole Chain of Memories game... or at least, all the parts in between of that game, or the final floor of the Castle... but just a heads up, this is the only entry I'll be using from this game.
Castle Oblivion is an essential location in the franchise, which basically messes with your head if you enter it, and it is the setting of the entire Chain of Memories game. Sora and Riku stumble upon that place and get their heads messed with, both by the castle, by a bunch of Organization members (who meet their demise here), a Riku Replica, and of course, Namine. Meanwhile, Marluxia is cooking up some weird plan...
This place is only playable in this game, but it also shows up in Days and Birth By Sleep, the latter involving a little twist which I won't spoil for those who haven't played it... but yeah, Castle Oblivion, everyone!

VS.

Twilight Town (358/2 Days)

Another Days entry... Twilight Town again. KH2's Twilight Town is already gone, believe it or not, having lost to KH1's Neverland. Sooo... here's Twilight Town again. It's basically the same, minus the whole Sunset station part, and the mansion interior, and Yen Sid's Tower (which is arguably seperate from Twilight Town, even though they share a world in KH2). But a lot happens here in this game, too much to talk about. Axel and Roxas sure love their ice cream breaks... but yeah, aside from the World That Never Was, this is the place you'll see most when playing this game, an immense amount of missions take place here before you get to go to other worlds, as well as throughout the whole duration of the game. One big optional secret battle is the almighty evil Dustflier... *shudder*... but there's way more. Will this be luckier than KH2's Twilight Town? This is also perhaps the only world in the game to have missions that use all of the areas.

I'll say Twlight Town (358/2 Days).

Castle Oblivion (CoM)

Castle Oblivion (CoM)

Castle Oblivion (CoM)

Castle Oblivion (CoM)

Right sorry i haven't updated in a while, been busy with finals week... and still am... but it looks like we only have five votes anyway, one just today.

Castle Oblivion (CoM) 4-1 Twilight Town (358/2 Days)

So who would have thought... both Twilight Towns killed in the first round. I guess that place isn't as popular as it is important. Never knew that, if that's true. But... Castle Oblivion moves on, and will probably be standing for a while.

Round 1 - Battle 8

Halloween Town (KH1)

So, the first Halloween Town. The one in Days is already over and gone, which is mostly the same as this one, but that says nothing. This place has manipulated Heartless, and a crazed scientist trying to make a heart. Skellington is the comrade, and this is the only edition of Halloween Town where you get to climb Oogie Boogie's Manor... before it becomes a monster itself with Shadow Globs, and gets destroyed, revealing the keyhole. Oogie also offers a rather unique boss fight! Also, the only missable Trinity... but all the manor's items can be obtained in the closet down below after the fight.

VS.

Atlantica (KH1)

Ah, Atlantica... underwater combat. The only Atlantica so far which is actually an all-out world to explore, and has many beautiful sights. It really is pretty huge, like most of the worlds in KH1, and holds many secrets. The prince is not yet introduced though, but instead, the story plays out with Ariel's motivation wanting to get out and explore other worlds instead. Creative, eh. Ariel is also a comrade in this world, and is very good with healing. Ursula puts up two serious boss fights, the first one a little attempt at creativity with the cauldron, and the second one especially challenging and introduces the "Deep End" boss theme, which for the rest of the game is used for difficult boss battles. Most of the Heartless here are exclusive to this world, save the Search Ghosts.

Both are good, and I hate to give Halloween Town yet another shafting, but I'm going to have to say Atlantica (KH1). Great level, fun adventure, and one world that epitomizes why I loved the first KH.

Halloween Town (KH1)

This was one of the worlds I couldn't wait to play when I first got the game. I could've done without Atlantica though. Maybe if you had more precise control when swimming.

Atlantica (KH1) I liked swimming, despite the clunkiness, and I thought this world was more fun.

Atlantica (KH1)

Halloween Town (KH1)

This was one of the worlds I couldn't wait to play when I first got the game. I could've done without Atlantica though. Maybe if you had more precise control when swimming.

i hope im not too late due to not bein on since monday. anyway, my vote is for Atlantica (KH1).

As long as I haven't updated, it's never too late to throw in a vote.

Atlantica (KH1) 4-2 Halloween Town (KH1)

So once again, Halloween Town gets shafted. But KH1's Atlantica is something special and unique not in any other game, so it's got the lead, close battle though.

Round 1 - Battle 9

Olympus Colosseum (358/2)

Another 358/2 competitor... none of them have been doing to great lately, but you never know. So, here's our first Colosseum, and this world, as you know, is the ONLY world to appear in every KH game to date, including BBS (I don't know about Coded because I'm avoiding spoilers for that, but I'd imagine it's there too).
Alright, so in this game, the Colosseum is pretty much the same as it is in KH1, three screens. Phil and Hercules are still training about, and they barely recognize Roxas due to him looking like Sora. Most of the missions in this world consist of tournaments like in KH1 (one of which he faces Xigbar in), as well as challenge bosses like the Morning Star, Scorching Sphere, and Stalwart Blade, and many more. Will this bring the game some justice?

VS.

Timeless River (KH2)

So here we have a special sub-world, exclusive to KH2, accessed from Disney Castle, which already won. Merlin sends you here with some magic, to get rid of a spell that's overtaking the Cornerstone with thorns.
So this world holds the unique characteristic of being black and white, like the old fashioned monochrome. This world is kind of like a time machine into the past, where they meet the old Pete before he became an evil villain, who just was a grumpy steamboat captain. Unfortunately, present Pete is here as well.
But while we've got the wharf and the factory and stuff, this world also has little "windows" you can travel to and find a bunch of Heartless, including a construction site, Lilliput City, a house on fire, and of course King Mickey's old house. Then Pete offers a rather epic boss battle taking you through all those windows.

I'm not too happy with how 358/2's getting shafted, but... Timeless River for me.

Zak, I promise I'll get started on it soon, but I just haven't had time yet. Plus, Eternal Sonata is damn compelling. Maybe you should hold the 358/2 Days battles for now and save them for later in the rumble.


Timeless River (KH2)

Well I have a policy, once I start a round and determine an order, even if it's by computer, I'm committed to it.

Timeless River (KH2)

that area is a big-time classic.

Timeless River (KH2)

Timeless River (KH2), seeing as how I've never played 358/2.

Timeless River (KH2) 5-0 Olympus Colosseum (358/2 Days)

Yet another blowout, Timeless River joins Disney Castle in the next round. Again, things aren't looking too well for Days... but alas, there are plenty more Coliseums.

Round 1 - Battle 10

Deep Jungle (KH1)

Tarzan's Deep Jungle. So this world is the only one COMPLETELY exclusive to KH1, no trace of it or mention in any other game, not even Chain of Memories (wonder if there's a reason for that). This world here is pretty expansive, and one of the longest levels. Tarzan fights alongside you, who is the first guest-Disney character to join your party outside the main trinity. You land in the tree house ambushed by Sabor, get to slide on vines, and do all sorts of weird experiments in the hunter's camp, swing on vines, defeat Clayton and the classic Stealth Sneak, and finally the Cavern of Hearts. This world has a LOT of secrets and hidden things to return for with later abilities.

VS.

Olympus Colosseum (KH1)

Oh hey again Colosseum. The one world that's in every game, this is the first one of it. Again, this isn't much of a world to explore, but it's got a lot of fun little tournaments to return to, and some of the toughest superbosses in the game and most classic in the franchise's history. A lot of familiar Final Fantasy faces here offer a challenge. This world also has a keyhole like many others, but it's one optional one. Also this is the only world where the Disney Villain (Hades) is optional to fight.

A difficult choice for me. I'm gonna go for Deep Jungle (KH1).

Deep Jungle (KH1)

Yes, I occasionally remember this thread exists :p

Deep Jungle (KH1)

Olympus Colosseum (KH1)

Deep Jungle (KH1)

Deep Jungle (KH1)

Deep Jungle (KH1) 5-1 Olympus Colosseum (KH1)

Another Colosseum down, and the Jungle advances to the next round! And... we're halfway through Round 1!

Round 1 - Battle 11

Hollow Bastion (KH1)

THE Hollow Bastion... an important world in the franchise, supposedly the home of most of the FF characters, and Sora's original home. This place undergoes a lot of transformation and is different every game, and actually used to be a beautiful place before Xehanort ruined it. While it is known for having a castle, this rendition of Hollow Bastion is the only one where we actually get to explore inside the castle. Lots of puzzles with crystals, and the whole lift maze, Library puzzle, emblem pieces, and some challenging bosses... this world's got it all. Also, the Beast as a party member.

VS.

The World That Never Was (KH2)

Home of the elusive Organization XIII. The very last place visited in KH2, but nothing like End of the World. This place, on the outside, was seen in the sneak preview video at the end of KH1's secret ending, during Roxas's famous encounter with Riku. Speaking of Riku, he's a party member for this world... not until very late though.
So, this is the first world you actually can see "Kingdom Hearts" from, up in the sky... the sacred moon. This white castle is crawling with Nobodies, as well as a few Organization boss fights, and is actually initially accessed from Twilight Town. All the Organization's biggest secrets are revealed here, as well as DiZ's identity. Also, for completionists, an excellent place to fight Nobodies and collect Dense/Twilight material, this world is a goldmine for that.


Again, two big ones... I'm gonna say Hollow Bastion (KH1).

You missed the slash on your close size tag.

Hollow Bastion

The World That Never Was

Hollow Bastion

The World That Never Was

The World That Never Was

Sorry... been on vacation... but seems we have a tie now. Anyone? I will get someone's attention to do it as usual if no one who hasn't voted comes and breaks it.

Okay, time for Smarty to break this one.

The World That Never Was

NOOOOOO!!!!

Excellent.

Huge apologies for the two week delay. I was pretty busy on vacation. And IDX, I agree, but what can we do...

The World That Never Was (KH2) 4-3 Hollow Bastion (KH1)

Really long close battle, between two very popular and important places. But in the end, the castle of the Organization comes out on top, as first seen in KH2.

Okay, no more delays... but I might wait a little and let this pick up for people to realize it's active again.

Round 1 - Battle 12

Wonderland (358/2 Days)

So, this is just about the only world brought back in Days that was initially KH1 exclusive (unless you count Neverland, but I consider that one a new world altogether because of how different it is).
So it's basically just about the same as KH1's Wonderland, Rabbit Hole, Bizarre Room, Lotus Forest. Queen... all that, except no more magically flipping the perspective of the Bizarre Room. But a new thing was added - big hedge mazes! They make things a little bit more interesting... and most missions and events here involve Luxord, which makes sense considering his fascination with playing cards. This world also has some interesting bosses, including the return of KH1's Stealth Sneak (with a different name), and... the notoriously difficult Crimson Prankster!

VS.

Traverse Town (KH1)

Good old Traverse Town... made out to be an important place in KH1, as it is where most of the adventure starts, but so far it's only been in that game... and Coded (and CoM if you count it). A mechanical world of three districts, where Sora first meets Donald and Goofy, as well as his FF friends. While most of the tutorials are here, this town has a lot of hidden secrets as well, very common for collectathon revisits with new abilities that make you reach things you couldn't before, plus the keyhole isn't sealed until the second visit. This town is home to the Guard/Opposite Armors as well, which are a classic boss in the series that just about every KH game had or had a variation of. Merlin also has a place here... before he was transferred to Hollow Bastion. As does Gepetto. One thing that may drive many crazy about this town, however, is that short-looped music... eh...

I'm gonna go with Wonderland (358/2 Days). I had fun with it.

Traverse Town (KH1)

Traverse Town (KH1)

Sorry, Zak. I've just been so absorbed with the PS3, that I just haven't gotten around to playing any of 358/2.

Traverse Town (KH1)

Can't vote for Wonderland (358/2) since I've never played the game and experienced the stage for myself.

Traverse Town

Traverse Town (KH1)

Traverse Town (KH1) 5-1 Wonderland (358/2 Days)

There's just no love for Days... but Traverse Town was quite the town, I must say. Minus the short-looped music...

Round 1 - Battle 13

Neverland (358/2 Days)

Another Days contender. As in the last round... they haven't been doing very well, but this place is where the most originality comes in Days. Our first actual look at something like Neverland... whereas in KH1 it was just a ship and a clock tower, here it's mostly outdoors in completely new places exclusive to this game (but part of the ship is revisited). Also, obviously, new great music... which unfortunately BBS didn't keep for either main or battle.
So, Neverland... this world is unique in the sense that aside from being original, it consists of five different screens, but none are connected, but each used seperately in missions. Such as part of the island itself, Skull Rock, the night sea... and well, not gonna name them all, but each are visited at least twice. Oh, and Roxas and Axel learn to fly and practice aerial combat... Oh, and you dig for treasure guarded by Heartless. This world also shows that Days completely disregards the Disney aspect and does whatever the hell they want, seeing as Peter Pan doesn't even exist in this game, it's mostly all about Captain Hook and Pete and treasures. Outside the story, there's some challenging flying bosses, like the Phantomtail (or the dark flying thing, whatever it's called) and the notorious "Ruler of the Sky"... one of the toughest in the game.

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Yen Sid's Tower (KH2)

Ah... the tower. So this is arguably part of Twilight Town, as it shares it's world with it, but some can argue that it technically isn't. It's got it's own theme for one, and it just happens to connect to Twilight Town via the train, which I see as an alternative to the gummi ship going between dimensions. Plus, I needed one more to make it even. :P But yeah, the only other thing it has in common with T-Town is the battle music.
So... this place is where Sora gets his KH2 outfit, and learns most of the game's story, and first meets Pete! There's the outside, several flights of stairs, moon and star room, and Yen Sid's study. Also crawling with Nobodies... only real reason to return here, Nobody-hunting... So obviously this place isn't in Days's Twilight Town, but it does in fact return in BBS, as it's own world, no Twilight Town (more the reason to separate it). It was cut down a lot there though, just the outside, one small pathetic little stairs room, and then you're already in the study. Oh well... still awesome music.

I'm behind Neverland (358/2 Days) all the way. That is one of the reasons I love this game, I like how they do what they want with the Disney characters instead of feeling obligated to keep a certain pattern or story, makes it more realistic and unpredictable, and the music there beats the socks off the theme they gave it in BBS. Whether or not this loses, I hope I'm not alone...

Yen Sid's Tower. You do realize you are alone, right, Zak? :D

Yen Sid's Tower (KH2)

Yen Sid's Tower (KH2)

Yen Sid's Tower (KH2)

Yen Sid's Tower (KH2)

Yen Sid's Tower (KH2)

Are we going to continue, Zak? I realize you find it frustrating that people aren't voting for the stuff from 358/2 Days, but maybe it's time to consider shelving that until more people have had a chance to become familiar with it.

I feel the same when you guys keeping voting off awesome BBS songs for crappy songs.

I've only made it to Snow White's world in BBS but so far there are a few tunes that I like.

Massive apologies... I've been really busy and had a lot on my mind which kind of made me forget about this. Agent, that's not it, and I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't like complicating things by changing the set around after I've started, or adding more. But I'll update later tonight (or within the next hour). And I'll go back to updating frequently... well, might wait a day longer the first time to let people notice this is back in action.

If you're very busy, Zak, I don't mind helping you out with updates for a while until you have the time to start posting them again. Oh, and TM, I always give a listen to the BBS songs before making my vote, and I have voted for some of them. If I ever don't vote for one, it's because I honestly felt that the other choice was better.

Okay, sorry, updating now. Hopefully back full time. Another point to make, Agent, about what you said regarding the idea of shelving it until more people become familiar with it. Well, BBS just came out in September, and Coded about a month ago, but Days has been out for almost three years, I believe, if not more. People were acclimatized with Chain of Memories in less time than that, so I'm not exactly sure what an average time-frame would be as the game's already been out for a fairly long time. Not that it matters... I'm not shelving it, as the damage has already been done. On a positive note, I guess one thing I can say about having included them is I enjoyed writing the descriptions for them, and hopefully they intrigue you guys enough to want to check out the game. But Agent, also I'm sure you feel the same way when you use stuff from Unlimited in the General Rumble. But anyway, we still got three of them left, so we'll see how they do.

So...

Yen Sid's Tower 6-1 Neverland (358/2 Days)

So... once again not much love for 358/2 Days, I guess more people need to have played the game. But then again, Yen Sid's Tower is an important place, despite not holding too many secrets, and it's on for the next round.
I do wonder however if the results would be the same otherwise... they may still have been, because I know of two voters who have played the game yet voted against it. Ah well.

Round 1 - Battle 14

The Castle That Never Was (358/2 Days)

Okay, another Days entry... as we know, those haven't been doing pretty well, but might as well describe it. In this, "World" is replaced with "Castle" in the name. So this place, is actually pretty important in this game, as it is the world where the Organization comes from, and it's basically the homebase/"map" world of this game, the "Grey Area" room where it all happens, which is like a big white conference room with big windows, where you can see the sacred moon, and it's the place where you go off and do missions. This world itself doesn't really have that many missions except for some optional challenges in the "Hall of Empty Melodies", as well as one towards the end which is actually in the castle we know from KH2, which isn't really a mission, but when Roxas tries to escape and "resign"... and later something crucial happens on the outside area... not gonna spoil anything. But one interesting fact, I believe the "Grey Area" conference room, is supposed to be the room in KH2's WTNW known as "Proof of Existence", seeing as when Roxas escapes, he starts up in the room which would have been before that.

VS.

Agrabah (KH2)

So our first Agrabah entry... yeah, they have not showed up yet. So, Agrabah's been in practically every KH game so far, save BBS. However, KH2's is unique and very different from KH1's Agrabah, which most of the subsequent games seem to recycle the map for. KH2's was completely redone and refurbished. Also, in this "Agrabah", KH writers decided to be a little creative and come up with their own plot, since the one from the Disney film was done (unless it was in Aladdin 2? But I feel like I remember asking somewhere and being told it wasn't). So here, Jafar's gone, and Iago tries to become good, but keeps you guessing as to whether or not he's a double agent, which he later is, but then redeems himself. The Cave of Wonders was made more into a series of short little mini-games (and it is one thing that has been completely different in every KH game that had Agrabah), and you also get to explore the outskirts of Agrabah, in the desert ruins! First visit faces you against those Elemental Lords, followed by Jafar in the sky attacking the city after the sultan stupidly let him out of the lamp.

Okay, this will probably be a fast battle, but just wanna make sure people notice this is active again until I post the next update.

And I'm gonna go with The Castle That Never Was (358/2 Days), because I found the whole "We don't accept resignations" scene with Saix to be pretty epic... as well as the near-ending outside... yeah. Plus, KH2's Agrabah is my least favorite of them. Even Coded's Cave of Wonders was better, and that's saying something.

Gotta go with Agrabah (KH2).